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>> you talked earlier about
that record low approval rating

That record low approval rating
for president biden and the

For president biden and the
skepticism over his leadership

Skepticism over his leadership
extends deep inside his own

Extends deep inside his own
party. Only 36% of democrats

Party. Only 36% of democrats
think that their party should

Think that their party should
nominate joe biden for a second

Nominate joe biden for a second
term. 58% say they would

Term. 58% say they would
support someone else. You're

Support someone else. You're
seeing real weaknesses in the

Seeing real weaknesses in the
coalition that powered joe

Coalition that powered joe
biden to the presidency back in

Biden to the presidency back in
2020.

2020.
>> I've been running 350 days

>> I've been running 350 days
a year since

Hotel hall running

Mr. Carville, glad you're
enjoying your afternoon walk.

Enjoying your afternoon walk.
>> you know shit, I thought I

>> you know shit, I thought I
was jogging

The world to eat quite a
probably one and a half times

>> running is easy on your
joints. You can shower right

Joints. You can shower right
after. There's no wind.

After. There's no wind.
There's no rain. There's no

There's no rain. There's no
cold. There's one big downside.

Cold. There's one big downside.
It's not overly scenic but any

It's not overly scenic but any
79 year old will tell you they

79 year old will tell you they
don't look at the horizon any

Don't look at the horizon any
way. You just look at what's in

Way. You just look at what's in
front of you because you're

Front of you because you're
scared you're going to trip

America. And they don't want
him back.

Him back.
>> jimmy carville

>> helped put bill clinton in
the white house.

The white house.
>> he ran the little rock war

>> he ran the little rock war
room, home to the famous sign.

Room, home to the famous sign.
It's the economy, stupid.

It's the economy, stupid.
>> you are considered probably

>> you are considered probably
james, the hottest political

James, the hottest political
strategist in the country look

Strategist in the country look
james, in all due respect is a

James, in all due respect is a
political hack. I ain't

Political hack. I ain't
apologizing to no one for what

Apologizing to no one for what
I did for a living. And you

I did for a living. And you
shouldn't either. If you want

Shouldn't either. If you want
to go into politics that boy

To go into politics that boy
looks like he swam too close to

Looks like he swam too close to
a nuclear reactor. James is

A nuclear reactor. James is
affectionately known as the

Affectionately known as the
ragin cajun. Drag a $2

Ragin cajun. Drag a $2
microphone through the bayou.

Microphone through the bayou.
You just might find james

You just might find james
carville.

Carville.
>> democrats whine too much.

>> democrats whine too much.
>> there are a lot of people

>> there are a lot of people
who don't know him, who thinks

Who don't know him, who thinks
he tries very hard to be

He tries very hard to be
eccentric. Those of us who know

Eccentric. Those of us who know
him know that he's actually

Him know that he's actually
trying very hard to be normal

Trying very hard to be normal
and just not ever getting there

And just not ever getting there
no knock on your

Some history sir. Too much.
>> he is a dreamboat.

>> he is a dreamboat.
>> although we're quick to

>> although we're quick to
concede that he's an acquired

Concede that he's an acquired
taste I always think I'm going

Taste I always think I'm going
to win. I never go into any

To win. I never go into any
contest with defeat on my mind

Contest with defeat on my mind
you are here for a purpose.

You are here for a purpose.
>> you are here to help people

National poll?
>> cost of living and crime

>> cost of living and crime
were the two biggest issues

More than seven.
>> I'm all right yeah, I'm in

>> I'm all right yeah, I'm in
town until after memorial day

Town until after memorial day
hey hey. Hello?

Hey hey. Hello?
>> tommy tuberville. Made my

>> tommy tuberville. Made my
day.

Day.
>> he is a colossal fool, and

>> he is a colossal fool, and
he doesn't know it.

He doesn't know it.
>> yeah what did you think of

>> yeah what did you think of
the inflation number? James has

The inflation number? James has
several knitting clubs people

Several knitting clubs people
who he calls all day, every

Who he calls all day, every
day. Crack of dawn. First thing

Day. Crack of dawn. First thing
in the morning. Last thing at

In the morning. Last thing at
night. These are very deep

Night. These are very deep
foxhole buddies.

Foxhole buddies.
>> okay. Okay. Hey, I got to

>> okay. Okay. Hey, I got to
take this. This business call.

Take this. This business call.
I got to take this okay?

I got to take this okay?
>> I can probably count on 2 or

>> I can probably count on 2 or
3 hands. The number of days

3 hands. The number of days
over the last 30 years where I

Over the last 30 years where I
didn't speak to james at least

Didn't speak to james at least
once. He's probably got seven

Once. He's probably got seven
dozen people on speed dial.

Dozen people on speed dial.
>> hey, uh, give me a call when

>> hey, uh, give me a call when
you get a chance. Thanks.

You get a chance. Thanks.
>> hello yes, sir. John mack,

>> hello yes, sir. John mack,
four times a day. George

Four times a day. George
stephanopoulos. Paul begala

Stephanopoulos. Paul begala
butthead.

Butthead.
>> I don't know butt-head's

>> I don't know butt-head's
real name.

Real name.
>> oh. What are you doing?

>> oh. What are you doing?
Another poll anytime soon?

Another poll anytime soon?
>> yeah he's not calling and

>> yeah he's not calling and
saying, how's your son?

Saying, how's your son?
>> he's calling and saying

>> he's calling and saying
what's going on? Which means

What's going on? Which means
what do you hear politically?

What do you hear politically?
What do you think? Have you

What do you think? Have you
seen this? Did you read that?

Seen this? Did you read that?
Let me send you this.

Let me send you this.
>> hey, you call james writes

>> hey, you call james writes
by talking on the phone.

By talking on the phone.
>> that's the way his mind

>> that's the way his mind
works.

Works.
>> most people don't know that

>> most people don't know that
this congress has failed to

This congress has failed to
produce a budget.

Produce a budget.
>> he works through what his

>> he works through what his
message is, and he often see it

There is no budget. And we
cannot let people forget that.

Cannot let people forget that.
It's very critical.

It's very critical.
>> I have talked to james

>> I have talked to james
carville every single day since

Carville every single day since
1983.

1983.
>> I don't miss it usually

>> I don't miss it usually
more than once a day.

More than once a day.
>> he is so much more a student

>> he is so much more a student
of the game than people give

Of the game than people give
him credit for.

Him credit for.
>> he knows all your votes all

>> he knows all your votes all
your quotes, and they're locked

Your quotes, and they're locked
in. He is the smartest son of a

In. He is the smartest son of a
bitch who's ever done this for

Bitch who's ever done this for
a living.

A living.
>> the percentage of people who

>> the percentage of people who
think trump has the mental

Think trump has the mental
fitness for office has gone up.

Fitness for office has gone up.
>> I saw that up. That's

>> I saw that up. That's
that's what shook me. That's

That's what shook me. That's
what shook me. That's

What shook me. That's
depressing.

Depressing.
>> but because people think he

>> but because people think he
there fighting use I was out

President biden. Absolutely,
george. The skepticism over his

George. The skepticism over his
leadership extends deep inside

Leadership extends deep inside
his own party. A hypothetical

His own party. A hypothetical
rematch trump versus biden

Rematch trump versus biden
right now, a seven point edge

Right now, a seven point edge
in our poll from in trump

In our poll from in trump
leading biden. That tells us at

Leading biden. That tells us at
this very early stage, george,

This very early stage, george,
that this race is shaping up a

That this race is shaping up a
lot more about the incumbent

Lot more about the incumbent
president, joe biden, than it

President, joe biden, than it
is about any of his

Is about any of his
challengers.

Challengers.
>> may seventh, 2023. That abc

>> may seventh, 2023. That abc
washington post poll. It

Washington post poll. It
knocked me right off my fucking

Knocked me right off my fucking
horse. I don't think people

Horse. I don't think people
appreciate how bad biden's poll

Appreciate how bad biden's poll
numbers are.

Numbers are.
>> it's like walking in on

>> it's like walking in on
your grandmother naked. You

Your grandmother naked. You
can't get the image out of your

Can't get the image out of your
mind. The american public has

Mind. The american public has
real doubts about this, and you

Real doubts about this, and you
can see it in poll after poll

Can see it in poll after poll
after poll.

After poll.
>> these polls seem to get at

>> these polls seem to get at
the elephant in the room when

The elephant in the room when
it comes to president biden.

It comes to president biden.
For voters it's his age that

For voters it's his age that
they're concerned about his

They're concerned about his
mental acuity, his health

>> I'm great.
>> how are you? I'm wonderful

>> how are you? I'm wonderful
hey hey, george is getting a

Hey hey, george is getting a
lot of attention, huh?

Lot of attention, huh?
>> jesus.

>> jesus.
>> that's how people are

>> that's how people are
talking about I think if we ran

Talking about I think if we ran
somebody else, we'd get 54%.

Somebody else, we'd get 54%.
Wow.

Wow.
>> all right.

>> all right.
>> 18% of the public thinks

>> 18% of the public thinks
trump should be charged with

Trump should be charged with
fraud.

Fraud.
>> it's just amazing that 18%

>> it's just amazing that 18%
of the country thinks he's a

Of the country thinks he's a
criminal. But they vote for him

Criminal. But they vote for him
anyway.

Anyway.
>> during the clinton campaign

>> during the clinton campaign
in 1992, fundamental core tenet

In 1992, fundamental core tenet
was change versus more of the

Was change versus more of the
same.

Same.
>> there's nothing that says

>> there's nothing that says
more of the same, more than joe

More of the same, more than joe
biden versus donald trump. And

Biden versus donald trump. And
james believes that you know,

James believes that you know,
change wins.

Change wins.
>> he reeks of yesterday. He

>> he reeks of yesterday. He
was a sketch of yesterday he is

Was a sketch of yesterday he is
he is.

He is.
>> so yesterday if I think of

>> so yesterday if I think of
yesterday, if I think of an old

Yesterday, if I think of an old
calendar, I think of george

Calendar, I think of george
bush's face on it.

Bush's face on it.
>> tell you that america is

92, I think in 2024, who wins
really matters. It's very

Really matters. It's very
stark, right now. We got this

Stark, right now. We got this
horrible threat of trump coming

Horrible threat of trump coming
back into office we're in

Back into office we're in
unchartered territory right

Unchartered territory right
here. A lot of people are

Here. A lot of people are
confounded by how close the

Confounded by how close the
race is given. President

Race is given. President
biden's record and given what

Biden's record and given what
we know about donald trump he

We know about donald trump he
admires biden a lot and thinks

Admires biden a lot and thinks
he's been a very good

He's been a very good
president but it's hard to make

President but it's hard to make
the case that joe biden can win

The case that joe biden can win
an easy reelection because he

An easy reelection because he
can't. Hello, mr. Carville,

Can't. Hello, mr. Carville,
this is joe in the control

This is joe in the control
room. Are you able to hear me?

Room. Are you able to hear me?
>> I hear you fine. New york,

>> I hear you fine. New york,
the path to victory is his

The path to victory is his
religion. That's what he cares

Religion. That's what he cares
about. How do you get from here

About. How do you get from here
to there? And there has to be

To there? And there has to be
winning.

Winning.
>> so let me bring in the

>> so let me bring in the
democratic strategist, james

Democratic strategist, james
carville.

Carville.
>> there's still a lot left to

>> there's still a lot left to
go here before the inevitable

Go here before the inevitable
happens. I think this is not a

Happens. I think this is not a
normal election right now.

Normal election right now.
>> gent. We're in a fight for

>> gent. We're in a fight for
the constitution of the united

The constitution of the united
states. The only hope for the

States. The only hope for the
united states of america is the

United states of america is the
democratic party that's it I

Democratic party that's it I
don't think that we have given

Don't think that we have given
this sufficient thought.

This sufficient thought.
>> I think we've taken too much

>> I think we've taken too much
of a chance to lose him but

Of a chance to lose him but
I've said it when he speaks,

I've said it when he speaks,
people listen because he tells

People listen because he tells
the truth. But do you really

The truth. But do you really
think anybody is going to cast

Think anybody is going to cast
a yes or no vote for biden?

A yes or no vote for biden?
Dependent on what james

Dependent on what james
carville says

You later. Get ready for a
show. Thanks, david. Appreciate

Show. Thanks, david. Appreciate
it. Thank you going back

It. Thank you going back
virtually no. The baby has

Virtually no. The baby has
pinkeye so, you know, I'm not

Pinkeye so, you know, I'm not
sure, but mr. Wilson is giving

Sure, but mr. Wilson is giving
me a private welding lesson

Me a private welding lesson
today, and I'm going to fix

Today, and I'm going to fix
this what now mr. Wilson is

This what now mr. Wilson is
giving me private welding class

Giving me private welding class
today, and I'm going to fix

Today, and I'm going to fix
that weather vane

Vane.
>> I don't think I'm going to

>> I don't think I'm going to
take the squeaker.

Take the squeaker.
>> I like the squeaker I'm

>> I like the squeaker I'm
going to be welded de rust.

Going to be welded de rust.
>> it pound it out, paint it.

>> it pound it out, paint it.
>> voila you have no idea how

>> voila you have no idea how
much shit I have mary was a

Much shit I have mary was a
hardcore republican operative

Hardcore republican operative
she had worked with the george

She had worked with the george
h.W bush campaign in 92. So if

H.W bush campaign in 92. So if
opposites have ever attracted,

Opposites have ever attracted,
this is certainly the case.

This is certainly the case.
>> people know you both as the

>> people know you both as the
democrat and the republican.

Democrat and the republican.
And so inevitably they want to

And so inevitably they want to
hear. Right. Tell us about the

Hear. Right. Tell us about the
fights. Tell us about the

Fights. Tell us about the
disagreements. Well I want to

Disagreements. Well I want to
start with a general principle

Start with a general principle
when you're famous for a thing

When you're famous for a thing
and that's what people see you

And that's what people see you
as.

As.
>> absolutely. We come from a

>> absolutely. We come from a
different era where you could

Different era where you could
talk about politics and you

Talk about politics and you
could disagree.

Could disagree.
>> chino is now my travel dog

>> chino is now my travel dog
that is his is our fixture

That is his is our fixture
them. They both passionately

Them. They both passionately
love their country they both

Love their country they both
passionately love politics

Passionately love politics
they're both really expert and

They're both really expert and
they're students of the game

They're students of the game
but they're on different

But they're on different
sides.

Sides.
>> they have such a famous I

>> they have such a famous I
know it's like a cliche. It's

Know it's like a cliche. It's
such a famous mixed marriage.

Such a famous mixed marriage.
She's a devout republican.

She's a devout republican.
He's a reptile. And yet

He's a reptile. And yet
they've made it work over the

They've made it work over the
years.

Years.
>> I'm really a conservative.

>> I'm really a conservative.
He's really a liberal.

He's really a liberal.
>> there's three things I

>> there's three things I
ain't changing. I ain't

Ain't changing. I ain't
changing wives. I'm not

Changing wives. I'm not
changing sexual orientation.

Changing sexual orientation.
I'm not changing political

I'm not changing political
parties. We're going to go to

Parties. We're going to go to
the house with what we got

The house with what we got
here.

Here.
>> okay those of us inside the

>> okay those of us inside the
beltway these days the toast of

Beltway these days the toast of
the town are james and mary

The town are james and mary
when james and mary got

When james and mary got
together, they were able to

Together, they were able to
parlay it into books, speaking

Parlay it into books, speaking
gigs, appearances

Running for president. They
were a subject of fascination.

Were a subject of fascination.
No one could figure out their

No one could figure out their
relationship but everybody

Relationship but everybody
loved the two of them.

Loved the two of them.
>> here you are in the war camp

>> here you are in the war camp
of the clinton administration

Of the clinton administration
in the war camp of the bush

In the war camp of the bush
administration and this passion

Administration and this passion
is happening it worked because

Is happening it worked because
it was real.

It was real.
>> they were both true to

>> they were both true to
themselves and true to the

Themselves and true to the
marriage and true to their

Marriage and true to their
profession. At the same time.

Profession. At the same time.
>> that's pretty hard to pull

>> that's pretty hard to pull
off.

Off.
>> how are you doing this

>> how are you doing this
serpent heads? My husband,

Serpent heads? My husband,
james carville don't call me

James carville don't call me
that. We would fight over the

That. We would fight over the
funniest insults, 22nd most

Funniest insults, 22nd most
loathsome thing on earth me,

Loathsome thing on earth me,
1994. What will you say to

1994. What will you say to
people? Oh, carville, there he

People? Oh, carville, there he
is exploiting his celebrity

Is exploiting his celebrity
I'll say that right there was

I'll say that right there was
that crazy television show they

That crazy television show they
did k street, where they kind

Did k street, where they kind
of became themselves on camera.

Of became themselves on camera.
>> our first date was

>> that's right the public,
james and mary were a show they

James and mary were a show they
made money being a democrat and

Made money being a democrat and
a republican that made people

A republican that made people
wonder, is it real? One pundit

Wonder, is it real? One pundit
actually had the temerity not

Actually had the temerity not
knowing them to write that it

Knowing them to write that it
was all a stunt nobody knows a

Was all a stunt nobody knows a
marriage except the one that

Marriage except the one that
they're in everybody does it

They're in everybody does it
differently.

Differently.
>> there is no model

>> what do I know? But the
secret I believe to their

Secret I believe to their
marriage is they don't talk

Marriage is they don't talk
about politics.

About politics.
>> what is it like living with

>> what is it like living with
you two?

You two?
>> I mean, Friday night, if we

>> I mean, Friday night, if we
weren't with you, we'd

Weren't with you, we'd
probably be having a good,

Probably be having a good,
stiff drink, which we're about

Stiff drink, which we're about
to go do right now anyway.

To go do right now anyway.
>> all right I'll let you go do

>> all right I'll let you go do
that, mary. Thank you. James

That, mary. Thank you. James
carville. Thank you. You bet.

Carville. Thank you. You bet.
>> kind of like to join them

You?
>> I'm good. You know your

>> I'm good. You know your
headphones aren't working again

Headphones aren't working again
are they? No, it's better with

Are they? No, it's better with
the, uh the sound. But I think

The, uh the sound. But I think
talking to this microphone

Talking to this microphone
helps if we're talking to this

Helps if we're talking to this
microphone that I can't hear.

Microphone that I can't hear.
>> is that dan talking?

>> is that dan talking?
>> no, it's joe.

>> no, it's joe.
>> when you're listening and

>> when you're listening and
speaking into the.

Speaking into the.
>> okay. Back now. Okay no

Know why we need a president
not in his 70s, this fucking

Not in his 70s, this fucking
program will tell you

War room with james carville.
>> and I'm al hunt an abc

>> and I'm al hunt an abc
washington post poll last

Washington post poll last
weekend just ricocheted around

Weekend just ricocheted around
the body politic. His black

The body politic. His black
approval is around 60%. We're

Approval is around 60%. We're
not going to get black turnout

Not going to get black turnout
anywhere where we need it in

Anywhere where we need it in
2024, with biden and most

2024, with biden and most
people, including james, is not

People, including james, is not
just a tv personality. He uses

Just a tv personality. He uses
that platform to advance

That platform to advance
political strategies and he's

Political strategies and he's
very thoughtful about what he

Very thoughtful about what he
does.

Does.
>> the country has become

>> the country has become
immune to staggering,

Immune to staggering,
breathtaking corruption at the

Breathtaking corruption at the
supreme court james has a

Supreme court james has a
unique voice one that resonates

Unique voice one that resonates
not just in democratic circles,

Not just in democratic circles,
but republican circles as well.

But republican circles as well.
And what I've always enjoyed

And what I've always enjoyed
about his insights and analysis

About his insights and analysis
is that he talks like he's a

Is that he talks like he's a
real person because he

Real person because he
interacts with real people.

Interacts with real people.
>> the only way to talk about

>> the only way to talk about
the republican party is in the

The republican party is in the
past tense. We keep thinking

Past tense. We keep thinking
that they'll do the right

That they'll do the right
thing, that they're really

Thing, that they're really
americans first. And

Americans first. And
republicans second.

Republicans second.
>> oh bullshit.

>> oh bullshit.
>> total

>> republicans create a lot of
distractions, and democrats get

Distractions, and democrats get
distracted.

Distracted.
>> it is a border showdown

>> it is a border showdown
record.

Record.
>> biden migrant crimes.

>> biden migrant crimes.
>> every time you hear migrant

>> every time you hear migrant
crime

Releasing criminal illegal
aliens over and over and over

Aliens over and over and over
again?

Again?
>> we don't need illegal

>> we don't need illegal
aliens voting in our elections.

Aliens voting in our elections.
>> as journalists, we're

>> as journalists, we're
looking for the most colorful

Looking for the most colorful
quote that makes viewers

Quote that makes viewers
actually perk up when they hear

Actually perk up when they hear
it. The way that carville

It. The way that carville
delivers, that he comes with

Delivers, that he comes with
the expertise, but the package

The expertise, but the package
that he presents it in is just

That he presents it in is just
different than everybody else.

Different than everybody else.
>> there are those who suggest

>> there are those who suggest
that somehow taylor swift is

That somehow taylor swift is
fixing the super bowl to help

Fixing the super bowl to help
joe biden.

Joe biden.
>> I think most of these people

>> I think most of these people
are sexually inadequate, he

Are sexually inadequate, he
goes out of his way to get

Goes out of his way to get
shit. The man is a two fisted

Shit. The man is a two fisted
shit catcher that energizes

Shit catcher that energizes
him.

Him.
>> he'll tell you very

>> he'll tell you very
quickly, tell the truth tell it

Quickly, tell the truth tell it
like it is, and that's what

Like it is, and that's what
makes it funny. That's what

Makes it funny. That's what
makes it interesting. That's

Makes it interesting. That's
what helps.

What helps.
>> and he gets out there with

>> and he gets out there with
an lsu hat and a pink

An lsu hat and a pink
sweatshirt drooling and

Sweatshirt drooling and
spitting glasses so dirty it's

Spitting glasses so dirty it's
like insane.

Like insane.
>> oh, my god. But the one

>> oh, my god. But the one
thing you can say about him he

Thing you can say about him he
is relentlessly authentic.

Is relentlessly authentic.
>> I've been more excited about

>> I've been more excited about
colonoscopies than he wasn't

Colonoscopies than he wasn't
giving a speech tonight he

Giving a speech tonight he
didn't want.

Didn't want.
>> when you see james carville,

>> when you see james carville,
you're looking at the face of

You're looking at the face of
louisiana no frills, kind of

Louisiana no frills, kind of
straight at it.

Straight at it.
>> how you doing?

>> how you doing?
>> he speaks in a way that

>> he speaks in a way that
people go. That guy is

People go. That guy is
different.

Different.
>> it's so nice to meet you.

>> it's so nice to meet you.
>> yes, sir. Thank you. He is

>> yes, sir. Thank you. He is
rooted in place, and he's proud

Rooted in place, and he's proud
of it, as he should be and he

Of it, as he should be and he
thinks the rest of the country

Thinks the rest of the country
could learn a lot from it

>> harry

Louisiana is like it's water
everywhere.

Everywhere.
>> hello

Kara alaimo sits on main
street.

Street.
>> when I was growing up you

>> when I was growing up you
know, you would have the am

Know, you would have the am
dial and it was common that you

Dial and it was common that you
would pick up a french language

Would pick up a french language
radio station, al-awda ambrose

Radio station, al-awda ambrose
kimono.

Kimono.
>> hey, mama. You

Grew up it was very rural. It
was very pristine

Now officially in carville,
louisiana

Interesting story, because you
look at a map of louisiana

Look at a map of louisiana
prior to 1909.

Prior to 1909.
>> it was called island, and

>> it was called island, and
there was a sicily island.

There was a sicily island.
There's a pecan island.

There's a pecan island.
>> there's about five other

>> there's about five other
island place names. And the

Island place names. And the
mail kept getting mixed up and

Mail kept getting mixed up and
my grandfather at the time was

My grandfather at the time was
the postmaster. So they said,

The postmaster. So they said,
well we'll just name the postal

Well we'll just name the postal
designation carville because it

Designation carville because it
was named after my family

Was named after my family
people assumed that we were

People assumed that we were
land barons. It was understand

Land barons. It was understand
we were small time bureaucrats.

We were small time bureaucrats.
We had a good name. We could

We had a good name. We could
get into any club. We just

Get into any club. We just
couldn't pay the dues

Father was born in. If you were
in carville in 1920, this would

In carville in 1920, this would
definitely be top three pieces

Definitely be top three pieces
of residential real estate

Louisiana architecture probably
if you lived here, you were

If you lived here, you were
black I grew up thinking my

Black I grew up thinking my
daddy said we had the best

Daddy said we had the best
climate in the world. We had

Climate in the world. We had
the finest peaches in the

The finest peaches in the
world. We had the finest

World. We had the finest
strawberries anywhere. We had

Strawberries anywhere. We had
the most fertile soil in the

The most fertile soil in the
world. We're the luckiest

World. We're the luckiest
people in the world. He didn't

People in the world. He didn't
say, you're growing up in some

Say, you're growing up in some
shithole on a mississippi river

That was a big thing I
discovered air conditioning in

Discovered air conditioning in
masturbation about the same

Masturbation about the same
time in my life. And boy, what

Time in my life. And boy, what
a what a wild combo

Louisiana this is the
intersection of whatever and

Intersection of whatever and
whatever we don't have two stop

Whatever we don't have two stop
signs.

Signs.
>> we have one. It's the only

>> we have one. It's the only
stop sign in carville. It's

Stop sign in carville. It's
right there how are you pretty

Right there how are you pretty
good. Trying to tell him about

Good. Trying to tell him about
the metropolitan area.

The metropolitan area.
>> yeah yeah

>> and the facade has changed a
little bit they've shut the

Little bit they've shut the
post office down, but that's

Post office down, but that's
the original building

Everything we had the only
telephone in carville mr.

Telephone in carville mr.
Carville. Charles, get out of

Carville. Charles, get out of
here I'm doing good man.

Here I'm doing good man.
>> he grew up right next to me.

>> he grew up right next to me.
Yeah, I mean, literally I mean,

Yeah, I mean, literally I mean,
this is my next door neighbor

Here at first was a typical
general store so if you wanted

General store so if you wanted
something that would get it for

Something that would get it for
you

Shit, this is hot that's
probably me. Yes I don't know,

Probably me. Yes I don't know,
but look at that.

But look at that.
>> is that carville? Is that

>> is that carville? Is that
carville I didn't like wearing

Carville I didn't like wearing
suits and wool stuff god, I

Suits and wool stuff god, I
hated that

>> she wanted 12 children.
Ended up with eight. We always

Ended up with eight. We always
thought of james as saint

Thought of james as saint
james. He could do no wrong

James. He could do no wrong
right here. This angelic human

Right here. This angelic human
being. Yeah, yeah. You think I

Being. Yeah, yeah. You think I
didn't try to please my mother

Mama's boy, aren't you? Yeah, I
am a mama's boy.

Am a mama's boy.
>> yeah. You call your mom? How

>> yeah. You call your mom? How
many times a day?

Many times a day?
>> well, I call home. I call my

>> well, I call home. I call my
mama I call one of my sisters.

Mama I call one of my sisters.
I say almost every I probably

I say almost every I probably
some days, five times, some

Some days, five times, some
days five times. It depends.

Days five times. It depends.
Depending on what?

Depending on what?
>> how nervous he is you can't

>> how nervous he is you can't
know james, if you didn't know

Know james, if you didn't know
miss nippy she would say I love

Miss nippy she would say I love
all my children but james is

All my children but james is
just special god only made two

Just special god only made two
perfect people, jesus christ

Perfect people, jesus christ
and my baby james.

And my baby james.
>> that'd be like, really she

>> that'd be like, really she
worshiped and adored him and

Worshiped and adored him and
was every bit as brilliant and

Was every bit as brilliant and
eccentric to supplement the

Eccentric to supplement the
income for the family, she

Income for the family, she
ended up selling encyclopedias,

Ended up selling encyclopedias,
which she was fantastic at. It

Which she was fantastic at. It
this is how good of a huckster

This is how good of a huckster
she was.

She was.
>> she would go around south

>> she would go around south
louisiana in a car. She said

Louisiana in a car. She said
son, we're looking for two

Son, we're looking for two
things.

Things.
>> we're looking for a bass

>> we're looking for a bass
boat and bicycles because

Boat and bicycles because
that's that's going to say

That's that's going to say
that there's disposable income

That there's disposable income
in that house and they have

In that house and they have
children.

Children.
>> that's what she was looking

>> that's what she was looking
for. Some indication of a kid

For. Some indication of a kid
who would want the

Who would want the
encyclopedia. She'd see the

Encyclopedia. She'd see the
basketball.

Basketball.
>> inevitably, the father would

>> inevitably, the father would
walk in and he said, well, miss

Walk in and he said, well, miss
carville, I'm sorry we just

Carville, I'm sorry we just
can't afford that right now.

Can't afford that right now.
And she said, well you know, I

And she said, well you know, I
see you can afford a bass boat

See you can afford a bass boat
for yourself. I just find it

For yourself. I just find it
amazing that you can't afford

Amazing that you can't afford
an encyclopedia for your kid.

An encyclopedia for your kid.
>> it's like genius.

>> it's like genius.
>> I mean it was 100%.

>> I mean it was 100%.
>> I am the son of a great

>> I am the son of a great
salesperson we have come to

Salesperson we have come to
devalue salesmanship if you're

Devalue salesmanship if you're
not willing to sell, you're not

Not willing to sell, you're not
willing to win

Housing.
>> there

In carville was a treatment
center for hansen's disease.

Center for hansen's disease.
>> it's what made the place I

>> it's what made the place I
grew up different than any

Grew up different than any
other place, and probably an

Other place, and probably an
entire south.

Entire south.
>> the national leprosarium,

>> the national leprosarium,
which is the marine hospital at

Which is the marine hospital at
carville louisiana, has under

Carville louisiana, has under
treatment more than 300

Treatment more than 300
patients who are lepers if you

Patients who are lepers if you
were in carville in 1959,

Were in carville in 1959,
let's just say population was

Let's just say population was
1400 of the people had leprosy

1400 of the people had leprosy
and 550 were black okay.

And 550 were black okay.
>> I mean, if you didn't get

>> I mean, if you didn't get
along with people you have a

Along with people you have a
pretty, you know, a pretty

Pretty, you know, a pretty
lonely life you have people who

Lonely life you have people who
are shunned by society that

Are shunned by society that
gave him his sense of the other

Gave him his sense of the other
and a great compassion for them

And a great compassion for them
james was one of the few

James was one of the few
strategists that understood

Strategists that understood
that there were millions of

That there were millions of
americans who lived on the

Americans who lived on the
outskirts of hope.

Outskirts of hope.
>> he's always been able to

>> he's always been able to
see beyond the levees, and

See beyond the levees, and
that's something natural that

That's something natural that
comes to a man who understands

Comes to a man who understands
what what it is to come from

What what it is to come from
nowhere, to become something in

Nowhere, to become something in
this world.

This world.
>> he grew up in jim crow

>> he grew up in jim crow
segregated, agrarian south, and

Segregated, agrarian south, and
saw the injustice.

Saw the injustice.
>> and it pains him to this day

>> and it pains him to this day
I grew up in a place that was

I grew up in a place that was
overwhelmingly black. Could see

Overwhelmingly black. Could see
that I led one life, and for

That I led one life, and for
the most part, they led another

The most part, they led another
life when it was not only not

Life when it was not only not
popular, it was dangerous to

Popular, it was dangerous to
take a pro-civil rights stand

Take a pro-civil rights stand
took a lot of courage and james

Took a lot of courage and james
carville did it and he didn't

Carville did it and he didn't
do it quietly

Money in their pocket, forget
where they came from, and then

Where they came from, and then
go support policies that

Go support policies that
actually hurt the people that

Actually hurt the people that
you grew up with.

>> james was never that way
during the clinton campaign we

During the clinton campaign we
were working towards putting

Were working towards putting
people first.

People first.
>> that came so naturally to

>> that came so naturally to
james and it also, I think was

James and it also, I think was
fuel for him knowing that in

Fuel for him knowing that in
some way he'd be giving back to

Some way he'd be giving back to
the people who helped raise

The people who helped raise
him.

Him.
>> our mission is to empower

>> our mission is to empower
people to get these incomes up.

People to get these incomes up.
Our mission is to do something

Our mission is to do something
about these health care costs

About these health care costs
and to invest in people and

And to invest in people and
recognize that this nation can

Recognize that this nation can
never be any richer than the

Never be any richer than the
people in it.

People in it.
>> we keep our focus on that.

>> we keep our focus on that.
We will become a nation of

We will become a nation of
fishermen and fish and women

Fishermen and fish and women
and not a nation of fish givers

>> 831 3700.

>> so Wednesday what are we
doing, ari and ac?

Doing, ari and ac?
>> yeah you have ari melber in

>> yeah you have ari melber in
the afternoon and then you have

The afternoon and then you have
ac 360. That evening. Um, and

Ac 360. That evening. Um, and
the podcast. And then Friday, I

The podcast. And then Friday, I
you head to cleveland for your

You head to cleveland for your
wsb through atlanta, and then

Wsb through atlanta, and then
that speech in california came

That speech in california came
through where in california,

Through where in california,
newport beach and it's on what

Newport beach and it's on what
day of the what's the date?

Day of the what's the date?
>> it's Monday, the 24th. So

>> it's Monday, the 24th. So
you'll go straight from there

You'll go straight from there
to aspen.

To aspen.
>> it's hard to believe

>> it's hard to believe
somebody actually wants to see

Somebody actually wants to see
my face.

My face.
>> they're going to see a lot

>> they're going to see a lot
of it, too

Routine is running shoes,
running shorts and good

Running shorts and good
bourbon.

Bourbon.
>> I put it in those little

>> I put it in those little
bottles you buy at walgreens

Right

Little indica gummies here

Carville is back in the news
again.

Again.
>> democrats are telling him to

>> democrats are telling him to
keep his damn mouth shut.

Keep his damn mouth shut.
Don't talk about biden's

Don't talk about biden's
sinking poll numbers.

Sinking poll numbers.
>> you said, quote, nobody's

>> you said, quote, nobody's
saying, james, you're wrong.

Saying, james, you're wrong.
They're saying james, you

They're saying james, you
can't say that.

Can't say that.
>> james has been very honest

>> james has been very honest
and up front about what he sees

And up front about what he sees
as joe biden's weaknesses. But

As joe biden's weaknesses. But
like any other political

Like any other political
strategist sometimes we get it

Strategist sometimes we get it
right. Sometimes we get it

Right. Sometimes we get it
wrong. I'm not bad when not

Wrong. I'm not bad when not
yet democratic senator john

Yet democratic senator john
fetterman went after famed

Fetterman went after famed
political strategist james

Political strategist james
carville. Quote, I'll use this

Carville. Quote, I'll use this
as another opportunity to tell

As another opportunity to tell
james carville to shut the

James carville to shut the
quote up.

Quote up.
>> they'd rather bury their

>> they'd rather bury their
head in the sand than listen to

Head in the sand than listen to
what carville's trying to tell

What carville's trying to tell
him, and that biden is going to

Him, and that biden is going to
lose on issue after issue.

Lose on issue after issue.
They're trailing trump where

They're trailing trump where
they really shouldn't be,

They really shouldn't be,
including on the issue of

Including on the issue of
democracy, by the way, where

Democracy, by the way, where
biden's only leading him by

Biden's only leading him by
three points. And if you want

Three points. And if you want
to make that the centerpiece of

To make that the centerpiece of
this election, which I believe

This election, which I believe
it should be, you know,

It should be, you know,
objective facts would suggest

Objective facts would suggest
he should be blowing them out

He should be blowing them out
of the water on that one.

Of the water on that one.
>> alice, back to the politics.

>> alice, back to the politics.
>> do doubts remain about the

>> do doubts remain about the
president's age? Yeah but to

President's age? Yeah but to
say this does not make me into

Say this does not make me into
a bed wetter or whatever loser.

A bed wetter or whatever loser.
>> had someone called you that?

>> had someone called you that?
>> I think that yeah, I think

>> I think that yeah, I think
they've called me a bed wetter

They've called me a bed wetter
on any number of occasions.

On any number of occasions.
I'm not offended by it. At

I'm not offended by it. At
all. I guess I'm 5% offended

All. I guess I'm 5% offended
that if you really think

That if you really think
calling me a bed wetter is

Calling me a bed wetter is
going to make me change my

Going to make me change my
mind, but I don't think you

Mind, but I don't think you
know who I am elections always

Know who I am elections always
boil down to decisions. A bed

Boil down to decisions. A bed
wetter is a person who only

Wetter is a person who only
frets I have become the kind of

Frets I have become the kind of
person that I used to hate. One

Person that I used to hate. One
of these carping democrats. You

Of these carping democrats. You
know, they never goddamn

Know, they never goddamn
satisfied

The people said that president
biden, physically or

Biden, physically or
cognitively, can't do the job.

Cognitively, can't do the job.
>> and by the way, he is old

>> and by the way, he is old
age is something that everybody

Age is something that everybody
deals with if you like me

Deals with if you like me
you're dealing with it as we

You're dealing with it as we
speak if you're a younger

Speak if you're a younger
person you deal with it through

Person you deal with it through
your parents or your

Your parents or your
grandparents or somebody down

Grandparents or somebody down
the street.

The street.
>> you can't pivot from that.

>> you can't pivot from that.
>> the president mr. President,

>> the president mr. President,
on your right.

On your right.
>> mr. President, I've heard

>> mr. President, I've heard
james on the phone saying, what

James on the phone saying, what
if I stop saying he's old,

If I stop saying he's old,
he's going to get younger? I

He's going to get younger? I
mean, it's not going to hurt

Mean, it's not going to hurt
and I'm very pro age. I love

And I'm very pro age. I love
that james is going to be 80

That james is going to be 80
and still whipper snapping

And still whipper snapping
around, but he quits teaching

Around, but he quits teaching
at lsu because it was too hard

At lsu because it was too hard
to drive to baton rouge imagine

To drive to baton rouge imagine
being president at that age.

Being president at that age.
>> I am very comfortable that I

>> I am very comfortable that I
am saying publicly what people

Am saying publicly what people
are saying to themselves. I

Are saying to themselves. I
have enough money. I have

Have enough money. I have
enough, whatever. I could just

Enough, whatever. I could just
shut the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up.
>> james is nothing if not

>> james is nothing if not
consistent. He's consistent in

Consistent. He's consistent in
his boldness, consistent in his

His boldness, consistent in his
willingness to say things that

Willingness to say things that
his allies might not want to

His allies might not want to
hear.

Hear.
>> james is saying the flames

>> james is saying the flames
are coming out of the engine.

Are coming out of the engine.
The plane is going down and

The plane is going down and
we're all just watching it

We're all just watching it
happen

See you. Thank you the first
campaign I ever worked on this

Campaign I ever worked on this
is dating me was in 1959.

Is dating me was in 1959.
>> this is my eighth decade in

>> this is my eighth decade in
politics and my job was to work

Politics and my job was to work
for a guy named price leblanc

For a guy named price leblanc
against, uh boise, jamelle

Against, uh boise, jamelle
bouie and my job was to tear

Bouie and my job was to tear
boise human bills telephone

Boise human bills telephone
poll signs.

Poll signs.
>> now well, we lost.

>> now well, we lost.
>> and uh, price went on to be

>> and uh, price went on to be
one of the great toyota dealers

One of the great toyota dealers
in the united states

Action toyota dealer.
>> we're loaded with trucks.

>> we're loaded with trucks.
Trucks. Trucks. Cars and

Trucks. Trucks. Cars and
trucks.

Trucks.
>> he taught me the value of

>> he taught me the value of
salesmanship and

Not huckster enough.
>> and louisiana has this

>> and louisiana has this
incredible history of having

Incredible history of having
colorful politicians. And james

Colorful politicians. And james
of course, is the epitome of

Of course, is the epitome of
that collar.

That collar.
>> they go farther and farther

>> they go farther and farther
and farther into economic

And farther into economic
slavery.

Slavery.
>> we followed politicians

>> we followed politicians
campaigns and got attracted to

Campaigns and got attracted to
it. Like it was a circus

It. Like it was a circus
sideshow. You are my sunshine

Sideshow. You are my sunshine
my only sunshine the defining

My only sunshine the defining
political character of my youth

Political character of my youth
was a man named earl.

Was a man named earl.
>> long had this unbelievable

>> long had this unbelievable
way of scaring people and he

Way of scaring people and he
really went after powerful

Really went after powerful
people.

People.
>> there's only two classes of

>> there's only two classes of
people that can get first class

People that can get first class
hospital treatment that's the

Hospital treatment that's the
poor, poor and the rich. Rich.

Poor, poor and the rich. Rich.
>> these guys were bigger than

>> these guys were bigger than
life because of their

Life because of their
oratorical skills and fanciful

Oratorical skills and fanciful
personalities.

Personalities.
>> why do you keep talking out

>> why do you keep talking out
of both sides of your mouth? So

Of both sides of your mouth? So
a person with nothing between

A person with nothing between
his ears, such as? You can

His ears, such as? You can
understand what I'm saying.

Understand what I'm saying.
>> there was a state senator

>> there was a state senator
dudley j. Leblanc.

Dudley j. Leblanc.
>> he was a huckster of the

>> he was a huckster of the
first order. He comes up with a

First order. He comes up with a
product called hadacol.

Product called hadacol.
>> do the hadacol boogie

>> do the hadacol boogie
hadacol boogie. The hadacol

Hadacol boogie. The hadacol
boogie.

Boogie.
>> anything that you had had a

>> anything that you had had a
call could cure it was hugely

Call could cure it was hugely
successful. Product leblanc did

Successful. Product leblanc did
a road show called the hadacol

A road show called the hadacol
tour. Kind of a traveling

Tour. Kind of a traveling
circus, and the whole

Circus, and the whole
combination of politics and

Combination of politics and
hucksterism that got people out

Hucksterism that got people out
and made politics relatable

And made politics relatable
with a show business component

With a show business component
of course, the fda found out

Of course, the fda found out
that it was nothing but alcohol

That it was nothing but alcohol
and bullshit. Hadacol what's

And bullshit. Hadacol what's
that good for?

That good for?
>> well, it was good for $5

>> well, it was good for $5
million for me last year and

Million for me last year and
that's good enough for me

Young person, and you envision
a career or life in politics. I

A career or life in politics. I
never envisioned this carville

Never envisioned this carville
was a poor student and dropped

Was a poor student and dropped
out of college to join the

Out of college to join the
marine corps.

Marine corps.
>> that experience imposed

>> that experience imposed
discipline on him, and james

Discipline on him, and james
does not take the discipline.

Does not take the discipline.
He doesn't take to structure

He doesn't take to structure
and yet you can't exist

And yet you can't exist
without some.

Without some.
>> after the service he

>> after the service he
finished college and then got

Finished college and then got
his law degree from lsu.

His law degree from lsu.
>> I practiced law for two

>> I practiced law for two
years and was terrible at it.

Years and was terrible at it.
>> then somebody in the law

>> then somebody in the law
firm started putting me to work

Firm started putting me to work
on campaigns for politicians.

On campaigns for politicians.
So I started doing that.

So I started doing that.
>> I found what I like to do,

>> I found what I like to do,
you know, relatively late in

You know, relatively late in
life. I managed my first

Life. I managed my first
campaign in 1982, which meant I

Campaign in 1982, which meant I
was 30, you know, 38 years old

Was 30, you know, 38 years old
on election night.

On election night.
>> I gathered the world did not

>> I gathered the world did not
beat a path to your motel room.

Beat a path to your motel room.
>> no, they didn't beat a path

>> no, they didn't beat a path
anywhere.

Anywhere.
>> the term political

>> the term political
consultant as a profession was

Consultant as a profession was
almost nonexistent for him to

Almost nonexistent for him to
say, hey, you know what I want

Say, hey, you know what I want
to. This is what my life career

To. This is what my life career
is going to be. Was a pretty

Is going to be. Was a pretty
big lift.

Big lift.
>> I spent a lot of time

>> I spent a lot of time
standing at the phone, waiting

Standing at the phone, waiting
on it to ring.

On it to ring.
>> 1984 my first campaign. I

>> 1984 my first campaign. I
was the lowest man on the totem

Was the lowest man on the totem
pole. It was my first job out

Pole. It was my first job out
of college carville was coming

Of college carville was coming
to texas to be interviewed for

To texas to be interviewed for
this job as a campaign manager

This job as a campaign manager
for lloyd doggett. For u.S.

For lloyd doggett. For u.S.
Senate.

Senate.
>> I carried the candidate's

>> I carried the candidate's
bags. Somebody had to go pick

Bags. Somebody had to go pick
up the out-of-state guru at the

Up the out-of-state guru at the
airport.

Airport.
>> so I go and get him you

>> so I go and get him you
know, dropped his fifth f-bomb.

Know, dropped his fifth f-bomb.
By the time we'd loaded the

By the time we'd loaded the
bags in the car. I learned more

Bags in the car. I learned more
in 15 minutes driving in with

In 15 minutes driving in with
him than I'd learned in four

Him than I'd learned in four
years of college. Getting a

Years of college. Getting a
degree in political science.

Degree in political science.
>> you could see after 30s that

>> you could see after 30s that
he was ten times more talented

He was ten times more talented
than the entire room. Put

Than the entire room. Put
together.

Together.
>> I just remember saying to

>> I just remember saying to
myself, man, I'm not going

Myself, man, I'm not going
anywhere without this fucking

Anywhere without this fucking
guy target, target target.

Guy target, target target.
Target had got crushed in the

Target had got crushed in the
reagan landslide.

Reagan landslide.
>> it was, up until that day,

>> it was, up until that day,
the biggest ass weapon a

The biggest ass weapon a
democrat had ever gotten in

Democrat had ever gotten in
texas history.

Texas history.
>> joe graham just beat the

>> joe graham just beat the
living shit out of us I went

Living shit out of us I went
there, boy, and I left a man

There, boy, and I left a man
james was famous for losing

James was famous for losing
races over and over again. He

Races over and over again. He
was pretty much nobody in our

Was pretty much nobody in our
party, and he just wasn't sure

Party, and he just wasn't sure
he was ever going to really

He was ever going to really
make it he slept on my sofa at

Make it he slept on my sofa at
age 40. Absolutely broke.

Age 40. Absolutely broke.
>> he had an oldsmobile. He had

>> he had an oldsmobile. He had
3 or 4 changes of clothes and

3 or 4 changes of clothes and
that was it so I go back to

That was it so I go back to
baton rouge, worked in the

Baton rouge, worked in the
mayor's office, will also be

Mayor's office, will also be
proposing some new school

Proposing some new school
lights and school crossings to

Lights and school crossings to
ensure the safety of our

Ensure the safety of our
children.

Children.
>> the mayor feels very

>> the mayor feels very
strongly about this.

Strongly about this.
>> then I get a call to go

>> then I get a call to go
interview for a campaign in

Interview for a campaign in
philadelphia and I said, well

Philadelphia and I said, well
you got to send me the ticket

You got to send me the ticket
and he said, well, we're going

And he said, well, we're going
to reimburse you.

To reimburse you.
>> maybe not. You know, just

>> maybe not. You know, just
get you don't understand. I

Get you don't understand. I
don't have the money to get a

Don't have the money to get a
ticket. You got to send me the

Ticket. You got to send me the
money to get the ticket to go

Money to get the ticket to go
to philadelphia took a job in

To philadelphia took a job in
1986 working for a man named

1986 working for a man named
bob casey who was then running

Bob casey who was then running
for governor of pennsylvania.

For governor of pennsylvania.
This is pennsylvania in 86,

This is pennsylvania in 86,
when the worst of the rust belt

When the worst of the rust belt
collapse is going on. Casey

Collapse is going on. Casey
would go around the state,

Would go around the state,
spurred on by carville and

Spurred on by carville and
casey and said, if you've ever

Casey and said, if you've ever
been knocked on your butt I

Been knocked on your butt I
know it feels like I've been

Know it feels like I've been
there. I'm going to fight for

There. I'm going to fight for
you.

You.
>> okay, here we go. This way

>> okay, here we go. This way
james understands the struggle

James understands the struggle
that people have to put two

That people have to put two
paychecks together because he

Paychecks together because he
lived it

Results came in and we won,
james got on the phone and

James got on the phone and
called miss nippy and just

Called miss nippy and just
burst into tears.

Burst into tears.
>> and mr. Casey, who was a

>> and mr. Casey, who was a
very reserved irish catholic,

Very reserved irish catholic,
took the phone and told that

Took the phone and told that
lady how wonderful her son was.

Lady how wonderful her son was.
They had a vigorous agreement

They had a vigorous agreement
about how wonderful james is I

About how wonderful james is I
was thinking, I don't have to

Was thinking, I don't have to
go back to baton rouge and beg

Go back to baton rouge and beg
people for a way to make a

People for a way to make a
living the casey campaign

Living the casey campaign
without that I'm not me and

Without that I'm not me and
that didn't come until I was

That didn't come until I was
42. I would have been a massive

42. I would have been a massive
failure without this

He wins, you win.
>> you've given a victory to

>> you've given a victory to
the people of kentucky tonight.

The people of kentucky tonight.
>> I take it as a great

>> I take it as a great
compliment that the voters

Compliment that the voters
chose us.

Chose us.
>> zell miller jorge engels his

>> zell miller jorge engels his
cards democrats in philadelphia

Cards democrats in philadelphia
were cheering a new hero.

Were cheering a new hero.
Harris wofford had shown them

Harris wofford had shown them
how to win since last week's

How to win since last week's
elections political consultant

Elections political consultant
james carville's phones have

James carville's phones have
been ringing off the hook.

Been ringing off the hook.
Democratic candidates running

Democratic candidates running
in 1992 are anxious for the

In 1992 are anxious for the
advice of the man hailed as the

Advice of the man hailed as the
architect of harris wofford's

Architect of harris wofford's
stunning upset in the

Stunning upset in the
pennsylvania senate race

Bertrand at the pentagon.
>> and this is cnn

Questions. They're always so
good

>> um mike, it doesn't matter a
lot, but I've lost the

Lot, but I've lost the
picture. What do I do no,

Picture. What do I do no,
let's just carry on.

Let's just carry on.
>> we're talking. Carry on.

>> we're talking. Carry on.
>> oh you don't want to see me.

>> oh you don't want to see me.
Okay we see you chagrin. We can

Okay we see you chagrin. We can
still see you okay uh, we'll

Still see you okay uh, we'll
start with jeff in saint pete,

Start with jeff in saint pete,
florida.

Florida.
>> who says when is the date?

>> who says when is the date?
When there is no turning back

When there is no turning back
legally as to being the nominee

Legally as to being the nominee
at the convention is.

At the convention is.
>> you know, I have been highly

>> you know, I have been highly
skeptical of the idea of

Skeptical of the idea of
president biden running for

President biden running for
reelection so now I'm hearing

Reelection so now I'm hearing
well, you might have been right

Well, you might have been right
in June, but there's nothing

In June, but there's nothing
we can do about it. Okay I

We can do about it. Okay I
profoundly disagree lyndon

Profoundly disagree lyndon
johnson was running for

Johnson was running for
president in March of 1968. The

President in March of 1968. The
president had been aware of a

President had been aware of a
growing divisiveness within the

Growing divisiveness within the
country.

Country.
>> good evening, my fellow

>> good evening, my fellow
americans lbj gives an oval

Americans lbj gives an oval
office address about vietnam.

Office address about vietnam.
>> and at the end he has this

>> and at the end he has this
sentence I shall not seek.

Sentence I shall not seek.
>> and I will not accept the

>> and I will not accept the
nomination of my party for

Nomination of my party for
another term as your president.

Another term as your president.
>> lbj decided not to run. I

>> lbj decided not to run. I
don't think he told hardly

Don't think he told hardly
anybody and throws it open the

Anybody and throws it open the
unpopular incumbent dropped out

Unpopular incumbent dropped out
of the race.

Of the race.
>> six months later, democrats

>> six months later, democrats
go to chicago.

Go to chicago.
>> it's declared an open

>> it's declared an open
convention you had a democratic

Convention you had a democratic
party that had a terrible issue

Party that had a terrible issue
with the vietnam war.

With the vietnam war.
>> there were huge protests.

>> there were huge protests.
Police response was excessive

Police response was excessive
the party elders put the vice

The party elders put the vice
president up.

President up.
>> he hadn't been in any

>> he hadn't been in any
primaries and they forced him

Primaries and they forced him
onto the ballot. And what

Onto the ballot. And what
happened well, riots. A loss

Happened well, riots. A loss
and a third party candidate won

And a third party candidate won
five states.

Five states.
>> richard milhous nixon has

>> richard milhous nixon has
been elected the 37th president

Been elected the 37th president
of the united states stop

Of the united states stop
freeze frame.

Freeze frame.
>> there's another way to do

>> there's another way to do
this let's imagine biden says

This let's imagine biden says
I'm not running. Two weeks

I'm not running. Two weeks
before the convention.

Before the convention.
>> good evening my fellow

>> good evening my fellow
americans.

Americans.
>> all hell breaks loose. Phone

>> all hell breaks loose. Phone
lines are buzzing.

Lines are buzzing.
>> you say we're going to put

>> you say we're going to put
five candidates forward.

Five candidates forward.
>> all five will be invited to

>> all five will be invited to
speak to the convention. High

Speak to the convention. High
drama coming in. Who will be on

Drama coming in. Who will be on
the sainted list of five? Wait,

The sainted list of five? Wait,
I just got an indication that

I just got an indication that
newsom's campaign manager is

Newsom's campaign manager is
coming out, and. Oh, wait a

Coming out, and. Oh, wait a
minute. Back to you. I see

Minute. Back to you. I see
gretchen whitmer's press

Gretchen whitmer's press
spokesman is being invited back

Spokesman is being invited back
in. You got a fucking game and

In. You got a fucking game and
everybody is watching it as

Everybody is watching it as
compared to we go to chicago.

Compared to we go to chicago.
There's going to be no

There's going to be no
suspense. If you had a

Suspense. If you had a
contested convention, it would

Contested convention, it would
be the highest rated summer

Be the highest rated summer
programing in history. Could

Programing in history. Could
turn out bad, but it could

Turn out bad, but it could
really turn out well this could

Really turn out well this could
only happen if president biden

Only happen if president biden
decides he can't or shouldn't

Decides he can't or shouldn't
run.

Run.
>> and he's made it pretty

>> and he's made it pretty
clear. So with that, I think

Clear. So with that, I think
that james is getting a fair

That james is getting a fair
amount of heat from democrats

Amount of heat from democrats
who just say, you know, it's

Who just say, you know, it's
over now. I mean, he's made

Over now. I mean, he's made
his decision.

His decision.
>> what people say is time to

>> what people say is time to
fall in line but I can't say

Fall in line but I can't say
what george carlin said. Fuck

What george carlin said. Fuck
hope.

Hope.
>> I just I can't

Much.
>> so we got the news.

>> so we got the news.
>> okay.

>> okay.
>> we're off and running.

>> we're off and running.
>> nikki haley has exited the

>> nikki haley has exited the
race. She was in it for about

Race. She was in it for about
13 months. Mitch mcconnell

13 months. Mitch mcconnell
endorsed trump during this hour

Endorsed trump during this hour
as well. So a lot of news.

As well. So a lot of news.
Yeah.

Yeah.
>> we don't expect to see the

>> we don't expect to see the
president today. We might see

President today. We might see
donald trump today come out and

Donald trump today come out and
make a statement to the left is

Make a statement to the left is
what they call union station

Senior in high school, I
actually touched john f

Actually touched john f
kennedy.

Kennedy.
>> he was down here and he was

>> he was down here and he was
a you know, a sitting in the

A you know, a sitting in the
back of a convertible or

Back of a convertible or
something and I'll never

Something and I'll never
forget, I got close enough to

Forget, I got close enough to
actually like, touched his coat

Rights and to a catholic kid
that was like huge I am proud

That was like huge I am proud
to become an honorary citizen

To become an honorary citizen
of new orleans and I am proud

Of new orleans and I am proud
as president of the united

As president of the united
states to come to this city and

States to come to this city and
to ask you to join with all of

To ask you to join with all of
us in moving this country

Us in moving this country
forward in this decade the

Forward in this decade the
entire generation of people

Entire generation of people
were just moved by kennedy to

Were just moved by kennedy to
get in american politics

Began for me.
>> I still believe in a place

>> I still believe in a place
called hope

Yeah, I think you're good.
We're good. Okay. Thank you, I

We're good. Okay. Thank you, I
appreciate it.

Appreciate it.
>> no problem.

>> no problem.
>> okay

>> I'd like to know what you
saw in james carville that made

Saw in james carville that made
you take a chance on him in

You take a chance on him in
1992.

>> the quarter century before
92 democrats had held the white

92 democrats had held the white
house for four years out of 25.

House for four years out of 25.
So the whole question in 92 was

So the whole question in 92 was
kind of, can anybody play this

Kind of, can anybody play this
game?

Game?
>> people were hungry for a win

>> people were hungry for a win
but a lot of democratic

But a lot of democratic
candidates thought that george

Candidates thought that george
h.W. Bush was unbeatable.

H.W. Bush was unbeatable.
Coming off the victory in the

Coming off the victory in the
gulf war

Thinking about running for
president.

President.
>> they want to work so james

>> they want to work so james
and paul got to pick and choose

And paul got to pick and choose
which candidate they were going

Which candidate they were going
to represent.

To represent.
>> our buddy george

>> our buddy george
stephanopoulos called me and

Stephanopoulos called me and
said, I've signed on with bill

Said, I've signed on with bill
clinton.

Clinton.
>> he's our generation's bobby

>> he's our generation's bobby
kennedy which is the highest

Kennedy which is the highest
praise he could give.

Praise he could give.
>> I never felt comfortable

>> I never felt comfortable
with political consultants

With political consultants
because I thought it was

Because I thought it was
unlikely that they knew more

Unlikely that they knew more
about arkansas than I did. You

About arkansas than I did. You
just talked to everybody,

Just talked to everybody,
including members of the press,

Including members of the press,
and ran your campaign. So I had

And ran your campaign. So I had
something to learn. I knew, and

Something to learn. I knew, and
I was very impressed with what

I was very impressed with what
he'd done when I met carville,

He'd done when I met carville,
I thought I was home.

I thought I was home.
>> we were two guys with pretty

>> we were two guys with pretty
flashy and strong willed

Flashy and strong willed
mothers who came from little

Mothers who came from little
southern towns, and I thought

Southern towns, and I thought
he was so smart clinton and

He was so smart clinton and
carville are from roughly the

Carville are from roughly the
same generation, roughly the

Same generation, roughly the
same kind of socio economic

Same kind of socio economic
background and they both had a

Background and they both had a
little bit of rogue in them

Little bit of rogue in them
when clinton signed on,

When clinton signed on,
carville and begala, it was a

Carville and begala, it was a
sign that this is someone who

Sign that this is someone who
is serious and this is someone

Is serious and this is someone
who is coming to play and

Who is coming to play and
coming to win james carville,

Coming to win james carville,
senior adviser to the

Senior adviser to the
clinton-gore campaign, joining

Clinton-gore campaign, joining
us from little rock arkansas.

Us from little rock arkansas.
>> let me read you one of the

>> let me read you one of the
quotes from a bush-quayle news

Quotes from a bush-quayle news
release. Quote pigs will fly,

Release. Quote pigs will fly,
lions will lay down with their

Lions will lay down with their
lambs and patriot missiles will

Lambs and patriot missiles will
sail down chimneys before

Sail down chimneys before
commander in chief wannabe ever

Commander in chief wannabe ever
gets down to specifics,

Gets down to specifics,
predicted bush-quayle deputy

Predicted bush-quayle deputy
campaign manager mary matalin.

Campaign manager mary matalin.
Well, as you know, I know mary

Well, as you know, I know mary
matalin fairly well, and I'm

Matalin fairly well, and I'm
always one of the things I feel

Always one of the things I feel
good about is this election's

Good about is this election's
over. She'll have a good career

Over. She'll have a good career
as a fiction writer because

As a fiction writer because
she's written enough fiction

She's written enough fiction
in this campaign to fill in for

In this campaign to fill in for
william faulkner it's such a

William faulkner it's such a
washington story. Mary and I

Washington story. Mary and I
had met in January of 91. There

Had met in January of 91. There
was an article about this

Was an article about this
democrat who was winning

Democrat who was winning
elections. Lee atwater, who was

Elections. Lee atwater, who was
bush's political operative,

Bush's political operative,
saw it. And told mary, go get a

Saw it. And told mary, go get a
date with this guy and find out

Date with this guy and find out
what he's up to I think we

What he's up to I think we
were living together by March

Were living together by March
conspiracists would be right to

Conspiracists would be right to
say that she was sent to spy on

Say that she was sent to spy on
you yeah we started dating in

You yeah we started dating in
January of 1991.

January of 1991.
>> August. President bush

>> August. President bush
appointed her deputy. Campaign

Appointed her deputy. Campaign
manager, and I was in the midst

Manager, and I was in the midst
of a special senate election in

Of a special senate election in
pennsylvania he promised me

Pennsylvania he promised me
that was it.

That was it.
>> he wasn't going to be in my

>> he wasn't going to be in my
lane anymore because I was

Lane anymore because I was
doing national politics.

Doing national politics.
>> we were at dinner where

>> we were at dinner where
james was introducing a couple

James was introducing a couple
of us to mary for the first

Of us to mary for the first
time, and he had cut the deal

Time, and he had cut the deal
with bill clinton to join the

With bill clinton to join the
campaign.

Campaign.
>> they congratulated him, and

>> they congratulated him, and
I said I didn't want to make a

I said I didn't want to make a
scene because they were his

Scene because they were his
friends, not mine.

Friends, not mine.
>> she was freaking out and the

>> she was freaking out and the
rest of us couldn't figure out

Rest of us couldn't figure out
exactly why. And then, little

Exactly why. And then, little
by little, we realized, oh, my

By little, we realized, oh, my
god, he hasn't told her. Poor

God, he hasn't told her. Poor
mary if he would have slapped

Mary if he would have slapped
me across the face I would have

Me across the face I would have
been less surprised the

Been less surprised the
president's inner circle were

President's inner circle were
all sophisticated men of a

All sophisticated men of a
certain age. They could not

Certain age. They could not
articulate what needed to be

Articulate what needed to be
articulated. When you're facing

Articulated. When you're facing
the kind of opposition that

The kind of opposition that
james was presenting.

James was presenting.
>> president bush has presented

>> president bush has presented
an agenda for american renewal.

An agenda for american renewal.
>> I have a question for

>> I have a question for
america. Do you feel renewed

America. Do you feel renewed
after four years of george

After four years of george
bush? How renewed do you feel

Bush? How renewed do you feel
out there, mr.. And mrs..

Out there, mr.. And mrs..
America?

America?
>> I had to pull it out on

>> I had to pull it out on
clinton because everybody else

Clinton because everybody else
was whining about it clinton

Was whining about it clinton
philandering, pot smoking,

Philandering, pot smoking,
draft dodger. I got chastised

Draft dodger. I got chastised
not to be so negative, but I

Not to be so negative, but I
always made the sound bites,

Always made the sound bites,
didn't I?

Didn't I?
>> he is an obsessive

>> he is an obsessive
politician. When he has been

Politician. When he has been
asked about his anti-war

Asked about his anti-war
activities in the past, he has

Activities in the past, he has
hedged, bobbed and weaved.

Hedged, bobbed and weaved.
>> the bush campaign refused to

>> the bush campaign refused to
back down. The clinton campaign

Back down. The clinton campaign
of course, is supposed to be

Of course, is supposed to be
worried about this the

Worried about this the
republicans can't think

Top person in a republican
campaign, and the top person in

Campaign, and the top person in
a democratic campaign started a

A democratic campaign started a
romance, and even though people

Romance, and even though people
talked about it, it was

Talked about it, it was
reasonably clandestine they

Reasonably clandestine they
faced a lot of obstacles from

Faced a lot of obstacles from
both sides.

Both sides.
>> it was kind of dicey that

>> it was kind of dicey that
you're kind of sleeping with

You're kind of sleeping with
the enemy in both cases.

The enemy in both cases.
>> there's so many reports of

>> there's so many reports of
a romantic attachment between

A romantic attachment between
you and mr. Carville I think

You and mr. Carville I think
the media does not know how to

The media does not know how to
cover what is an unprecedented

Cover what is an unprecedented
relationship nobody seemed to

Relationship nobody seemed to
care on the democratic side. I

Care on the democratic side. I
wish I could tell you that's

Wish I could tell you that's
because democrats are a better

Because democrats are a better
people. It's a boy girl thing.

People. It's a boy girl thing.
>> I think that it is even a

>> I think that it is even a
zone of privacy that exists for

Zone of privacy that exists for
political consultants.

Political consultants.
>> james got credit for dating

>> james got credit for dating
me and I got shit for dating

Me and I got shit for dating
him.

Him.
>> if you were to lose, will

>> if you were to lose, will
there be lingering bitterness

There be lingering bitterness
no, we're not going to lose.

No, we're not going to lose.
>> so I haven't thought about

>> so I haven't thought about
that.

That.
>> I had been working for 12

>> I had been working for 12
years to get this job. He just

Years to get this job. He just
came out of nowhere. He just

Came out of nowhere. He just
fell from the sky doing state

Fell from the sky doing state
races.

Races.
>> and I said oh, he'll just

>> and I said oh, he'll just
fall on his face. Little did I

Fall on his face. Little did I
know he was going to recreate

Know he was going to recreate
the genre of political

California coast and this is
cnn

You

But I was a pretty straight
kid.

Kid.
>> I worked hard enough to make

>> I worked hard enough to make
good grades, but I basically

Good grades, but I basically
liked my music and my friends.

Liked my music and my friends.
And I had a heck of a good time

And I had a heck of a good time
when I was in high school. I

When I was in high school. I
bet you I said something you

Bet you I said something you
could take out of context you

Could take out of context you
weird guys got to stick

Weird guys got to stick
together bye bye

Fact that you sent me to
college.

College.
>> the woman who was paid by a

>> the woman who was paid by a
supermarket tabloid to publicly

Supermarket tabloid to publicly
talk about her story of a 12

Talk about her story of a 12
year alleged affair with

Year alleged affair with
democratic presidential

Democratic presidential
candidate bill clinton held a

Candidate bill clinton held a
news conference today.

News conference today.
>> I have lied to the press

>> I have lied to the press
about our relationship to

About our relationship to
protect him the gennifer

Protect him the gennifer
flowers weekend was unlike

Flowers weekend was unlike
anything else in the campaign.

Anything else in the campaign.
>> you're coming off the gary

>> you're coming off the gary
hart implosion in 1988, where

Hart implosion in 1988, where
just the whisper of infidelity.

Just the whisper of infidelity.
>> bam. Knocked him out of the

>> bam. Knocked him out of the
race

>> we're trying to get our sea
legs after these allegations of

Legs after these allegations of
affairs.

Affairs.
>> we got off the plane.

>> we got off the plane.
>> embed from abc news. Hans,

>> embed from abc news. Hans,
georgie and I this letter, the

Georgie and I this letter, the
first line. Thank you for

First line. Thank you for
saving me from the draft.

Saving me from the draft.
>> our knees buckled I thought

>> our knees buckled I thought
this was it. No way he can

This was it. No way he can
survive the double whammy of

Survive the double whammy of
gennifer flowers and the draft

Gennifer flowers and the draft
letter.

Letter.
>> governor did you write this

>> governor did you write this
letter to congress?

Letter to congress?
>> okay.

>> okay.
>> george was in the corner.

>> george was in the corner.
Kind of curled up in a fetal

Kind of curled up in a fetal
position, and carville was

Position, and carville was
stomping around in the room,

Stomping around in the room,
and he said georgie, read the

And he said georgie, read the
thing. If you read it out loud,

Thing. If you read it out loud,
it helps him. It shows he's got

It helps him. It shows he's got
more character

Something else.
>> he said, this letter can be

>> he said, this letter can be
your friend.

Your friend.
>> he said, I was in the marine

>> he said, I was in the marine
corps at the time lots of

Corps at the time lots of
people in the marine corps felt

People in the marine corps felt
this like this letter it was so

This like this letter it was so
good. And it was right.

Good. And it was right.
>> I can legitimately say that

>> I can legitimately say that
I served. I did what I was

I served. I did what I was
told. I got an honorable

Told. I got an honorable
discharge and clinton had two

Discharge and clinton had two
deferments. Wrote this tortured

Deferments. Wrote this tortured
letter because he wanted to

Letter because he wanted to
remain politically viable, but

Remain politically viable, but
he didn't want to get his ass

He didn't want to get his ass
shot off g james knew his

Shot off g james knew his
generation's ambivalence.

Generation's ambivalence.
>> he knew how people felt who

>> he knew how people felt who
had served and who had decided

Had served and who had decided
not to serve. He looked at the

Not to serve. He looked at the
letter in a totally different

Letter in a totally different
way than anyone else. That's

Way than anyone else. That's
so james. To see opportunity at

So james. To see opportunity at
a moment when everybody else

A moment when everybody else
sees death

Turn into it that we deal with
it. Why did the pentagon in

It. Why did the pentagon in
your opinion, release the

Your opinion, release the
letter?

Letter?
>> I think that it is. Why do

>> I think that it is. Why do
you think that? Well, let's

You think that? Well, let's
let's try a case of rocket

Let's try a case of rocket
science. Here's an article in

Science. Here's an article in
the wall street journal on

The wall street journal on
Friday. And here's a story that

Friday. And here's a story that
looks like it might be going

Looks like it might be going
away. And somebody says, aha,

Away. And somebody says, aha,
look, we have something that

Look, we have something that
can kick this story. An extra

Can kick this story. An extra
day.

Day.
>> my job was to convey to the

>> my job was to convey to the
press and the public that we

Press and the public that we
are tough fucking people that

Are tough fucking people that
know what they're doing,

Know what they're doing,
because that was really part of

Because that was really part of
what I was selling.

What I was selling.
>> but you have to ask, are you

>> but you have to ask, are you
going to let me answer the

Going to let me answer the
question?

Question?
>> you're gonna interrupt me

>> you're gonna interrupt me
okay all right.

Okay all right.
>> that defiance ended up

>> that defiance ended up
sending a bigger signal that

Sending a bigger signal that
lasted throughout the whole

Lasted throughout the whole
campaign. If you've got a big

Campaign. If you've got a big
problem, confront it don't hide

Problem, confront it don't hide
it.

It.
>> carville's approach is just

>> carville's approach is just
as relevant. Perhaps more

As relevant. Perhaps more
relevant today than it was in

Relevant today than it was in
1992. You've turned into the

1992. You've turned into the
fire. You don't turn away from

Fire. You don't turn away from
it should biden go on the

It should biden go on the
attack? My dad was a boxer at

Attack? My dad was a boxer at
lsu. He said, get in. Throw a

Lsu. He said, get in. Throw a
combo and get the hell out.

Combo and get the hell out.
That's what biden needs to do.

That's what biden needs to do.
Go in, throw a quick combo,

Go in, throw a quick combo,
back off. Come back quick

Back off. Come back quick
combo. Back off

Biden is going to address the
age issue? I asked the campaign

Age issue? I asked the campaign
if he's going to give a full

If he's going to give a full
throated speech on the subject

Throated speech on the subject
of age. I want to I want to

Of age. I want to I want to
interview him about that. And

Interview him about that. And
they said, look, we don't they

They said, look, we don't they
made it clear they're not

Made it clear they're not
going to be doing that.

Going to be doing that.
>> you seem to be pretty

>> you seem to be pretty
convinced that biden really

Convinced that biden really
believes that he's going to

Believes that he's going to
win.

Win.
>> he has a conviction that the

>> he has a conviction that the
american public is as insulted

American public is as insulted
by trump on a spiritual,

By trump on a spiritual,
patriotic level the same way

Patriotic level the same way
that he is.

That he is.
>> I hope his view of america

>> I hope his view of america
turns out to be correct but I

Turns out to be correct but I
got to say, the evidence I see

Got to say, the evidence I see
right now is I just have a hard

Right now is I just have a hard
time being encouraged by it.

Time being encouraged by it.
>> it will go down in history

>> it will go down in history
as a catastrophic

As a catastrophic
miscalculation. If he is wrong

Miscalculation. If he is wrong
about that. And I think that

About that. And I think that
will be the story.

Will be the story.
>> evan thank you so much.

>> evan thank you so much.
>> a great pleasure, always a

>> a great pleasure, always a
treat to be with you guys.

Treat to be with you guys.
Thank you

For the wall street journal and
nbc news that showed clinton in

Nbc news that showed clinton in
third place behind perot and I

Third place behind perot and I
suppose on the 6th of April,

Suppose on the 6th of April,
you can find me hello?

You can find me hello?
>> I'm here.

>> I'm here.
>> hello hello, guys.

>> hello hello, guys.
>> you can't pick up the

>> you can't pick up the
phone.

Phone.
>> we were so strategically

>> we were so strategically
dysfunctional. Everybody

Dysfunctional. Everybody
realized that something had to

Realized that something had to
be done. I'd run a lot of

Be done. I'd run a lot of
campaigns, and I developed an

Campaigns, and I developed an
idea of the way that you should

Idea of the way that you should
do things.

Do things.
>> he wanted to have

>> he wanted to have
representatives from every

Representatives from every
department all in the same

Department all in the same
room, so that we all could

Room, so that we all could
speak with one voice and have

Speak with one voice and have
one strategy.

One strategy.
>> they came to me and said

>> they came to me and said
we're going to do this coup

We're going to do this coup
and you're going to be the

And you're going to be the
leader of the coup. And by the

Leader of the coup. And by the
way, you got to go sell this to

Way, you got to go sell this to
the clintons.

The clintons.
>> thank you so he came up with

>> thank you so he came up with
this idea of the clinton action

This idea of the clinton action
team and took it to hillary who

Team and took it to hillary who
was the most important

Was the most important
strategist. Hillary loved it,

Strategist. Hillary loved it,
blessed it, but said you should

Blessed it, but said you should
call it the war room.

Call it the war room.
>> it seemed like a good idea.

>> it seemed like a good idea.
I wish you'd have told me to

I wish you'd have told me to
call it to the fought room. I

Call it to the fought room. I
called it the fortress he was

Called it the fortress he was
given the job during the

Given the job during the
convention james, as the

Convention james, as the
general of that war room

General of that war room
created a culture that I don't

Created a culture that I don't
think any democratic campaign

Think any democratic campaign
has ever had. This morning,

Has ever had. This morning,
perot was on cbs morning news

Perot was on cbs morning news
every morning and every night

Every morning and every night
everyone came in. Everyone

Everyone came in. Everyone
heard the news. Everyone was

Heard the news. Everyone was
part of the conversation. It

Part of the conversation. It
was literally an open campaign.

Was literally an open campaign.
>> it gave people psychic

>> it gave people psychic
income.

Income.
>> you move to little rock, you

>> you move to little rock, you
didn't get paid. Shit. You

Didn't get paid. Shit. You
worked seven days a week. You

Worked seven days a week. You
work 15 hours a day. The

Work 15 hours a day. The
benefit was you were in on a

Benefit was you were in on a
secret.

Secret.
>> I have a picture from the

>> I have a picture from the
war room.

War room.
>> all these people, impossibly

>> all these people, impossibly
young impossibly brilliant

Young impossibly brilliant
impossibly idealistic and james

Impossibly idealistic and james
was their guru. He was their

Was their guru. He was their
spiritual leader. And he

Spiritual leader. And he
created a camaraderie that has

Created a camaraderie that has
now lasted for decades.

Now lasted for decades.
>> hey, hey it's a good spot.

>> hey, hey it's a good spot.
>> suggestion at the end, have

>> suggestion at the end, have
him say, read my lips. No, sir.

Him say, read my lips. No, sir.
This time we're reading the

This time we're reading the
record.

Record.
>> one of the great things

>> one of the great things
about carville is he could

About carville is he could
distill a message into its

Distill a message into its
essence. We had that little

Essence. We had that little
sign that said change versus

Sign that said change versus
more of the same. The economy

More of the same. The economy
stupid. Don't forget health

Stupid. Don't forget health
care and everybody who worked

Care and everybody who worked
for me looked at it every day

For me looked at it every day
and just had it drilled into

And just had it drilled into
them.

Them.
>> you have to know an awful

>> you have to know an awful
lot to be able to boil down an

Lot to be able to boil down an
entire presidential campaign to

Entire presidential campaign to
14 words. You have to know

14 words. You have to know
history. You have to know

History. You have to know
psychology. You have to know

Psychology. You have to know
polling. You have to know

Polling. You have to know
voters. You have to know what

Voters. You have to know what
people's lives are like in

People's lives are like in
that moment. But in those words

That moment. But in those words
are the keys to victory.

Are the keys to victory.
>> stay focused. Talk about

>> stay focused. Talk about
things that matter to people

Things that matter to people
you know. It's the economy

You know. It's the economy
stupid.

Stupid.
>> it's the economy, stupid.

>> it's the economy, stupid.
The economy stupid.

The economy stupid.
>> I don't know how many times

>> I don't know how many times
people have sent me like it's

People have sent me like it's
the blank stupid. I mean it. I

The blank stupid. I mean it. I
guarantee you it's a million.

Guarantee you it's a million.
And it just one of these things

And it just one of these things
that are what we call sticky.

That are what we call sticky.
>> I think there are a couple

>> I think there are a couple
of big things one is james

Of big things one is james
carville's old line. It's the

Carville's old line. It's the
economy, stupid.

Economy, stupid.
>> it's the economy, stupid

>> it's the economy, stupid
stupid, stupid, stupid. It's

Stupid, stupid, stupid. It's
the economy stupid.

The economy stupid.
>> we all go by. It's the

>> we all go by. It's the
economy, stupid. And you

Economy, stupid. And you
wouldn't have that if you

Wouldn't have that if you
didn't have james carville.

Didn't have james carville.
>> it's the economy stupid.

>> it's the economy stupid.
Did you ever hear that one?

Did you ever hear that one?
It's the economy.

It's the economy.
>> it is indeed.

>> it is indeed.
>> I feel a little odd sitting

>> I feel a little odd sitting
up here, being known as the

Up here, being known as the
person that popularized the

Person that popularized the
word stupid in american

Word stupid in american
culture. I'd like to.

Culture. I'd like to.
>> I'd like to be remembered

>> I'd like to be remembered
for something a little more

For something a little more
substantial than that.

Substantial than that.
>> but what the heck

>> we're back in the capital
of arkansas tonight. We want to

Of arkansas tonight. We want to
show you the scene as they

Show you the scene as they
await the arrival of their

Await the arrival of their
governor the new president of

Governor the new president of
the united states. That is bill

The united states. That is bill
clinton.

Clinton.
>> can I just say there's james

>> can I just say there's james
carville right in the middle of

Carville right in the middle of
it all. He has this

It all. He has this
relationship with mary matalin,

Relationship with mary matalin,
who is the political director

Who is the political director
for president bush. Of all

For president bush. Of all
things.

Things.
>> and he told me that the one

>> and he told me that the one
thing he's really sad about

Thing he's really sad about
today is that mary is suffering

Today is that mary is suffering
this loss on election night,

This loss on election night,
they turned on the tv

They turned on the tv
completely shitfaced and

Completely shitfaced and
already on my first hangover.

Already on my first hangover.
And there he is in this teal

And there he is in this teal
jacket that I bought him,

Jacket that I bought him,
waving don't stop thinking

Waving don't stop thinking
about tomorrow

Everything that he had done.
You couldn't have held nippy

You couldn't have held nippy
carville down for anything. Sj

Carville down for anything. Sj
had reached the tantamount this

Had reached the tantamount this
was just the most unbelievable

Was just the most unbelievable
thing in the world.

Thing in the world.
>> and finally I want to thank

>> and finally I want to thank
the members of my brilliant

The members of my brilliant
aggressive unconventional but

Aggressive unconventional but
always winning campaign staff.

Always winning campaign staff.
They were unbelievable

>> when you think of democrats
and how long it had been since

And how long it had been since
they'd won a presidential

They'd won a presidential
election how fraught this

Election how fraught this
campaign had been we were all

Campaign had been we were all
caught up in the moment I

Caught up in the moment I
understood that james had done

Understood that james had done
something extraordinary you

Something extraordinary you
know, I was kidding james.

Know, I was kidding james.
>> yesterday, I said, he's

>> yesterday, I said, he's
about to pass from the role of

About to pass from the role of
regular human being into the

Regular human being into the
role of a legend and I think he

Role of a legend and I think he
really deserves it.

Really deserves it.
>> I also believed and still

>> I also believed and still
believe that a lot of people's

Believe that a lot of people's
lives across the country would

Lives across the country would
be different because of this.

Be different because of this.
>> more people are going to

>> more people are going to
have better jobs.

Have better jobs.
>> people are going to pay a

>> people are going to pay a
little less for health care,

Little less for health care,
get better care, and more kids

Get better care, and more kids
are going to go to better

Are going to go to better
schools so thanks

I ever went to washington, new
york

Campaign. And I'm happy for all
of you are I taught democrats

Of you are I taught democrats
how to win again.

How to win again.
>> that's what james did

>> that's what james did
that's what bill clinton did

That's what bill clinton did
taught us how to win I'll never

Taught us how to win I'll never
forget the job done.

Forget the job done.
>> thank you

>> two, two schemes for kids
david snyder, 87 miles an hour.

David snyder, 87 miles an hour.
That's seven strikeouts. Two,

That's seven strikeouts. Two,
two. Wow

There. Hey honey, I'm going to
make lunch for everybody.

Make lunch for everybody.
>> what do you mean french

>> what do you mean french
fries? Special tuna salad.

Fries? Special tuna salad.
>> we have all this time. I

>> we have all this time. I
have all of the stuff.

Have all of the stuff.
>> so I'm going to go up to the

>> so I'm going to go up to the
farm fine, I got everything

Farm fine, I got everything
I'm missing.

I'm missing.
>> plates

Like a normal person?
>> no, I got it says he's got

>> no, I got it says he's got
it.

It.
>> he's got it

Were always public. You know,
now that we're having this

Now that we're having this
truth serum conversation, I

Truth serum conversation, I
really have never liked having

Really have never liked having
our marriage be the cause of

Our marriage be the cause of
our of our celebrity. I don't

Our of our celebrity. I don't
like it.

Like it.
>> who gives a shit what I

>> who gives a shit what I
think was legal I'm not

Think was legal I'm not
breaking any law. All right,

Breaking any law. All right,
here's the consolation. Our

Here's the consolation. Our
choice was to be a real whore

Choice was to be a real whore
and go be a lobbyist. And I

And go be a lobbyist. And I
could not do that. Never did.

Could not do that. Never did.
>> and I so I in that in that

>> and I so I in that in that
context, I'm glad we did what

Context, I'm glad we did what
we did

Tomorrow at nine on cnn

Political odd couple james
carville mary matalin.

Carville mary matalin.
>> welcome. Happy anniversary.

>> welcome. Happy anniversary.
>> thank you.

>> thank you.
>> second year. That's exactly

>> second year. That's exactly
right. Together together. Now

Right. Together together. Now
let's begin

Russert.
>> that was the forum where

>> that was the forum where
they were together. They

They were together. They
disagreed, but were sort of

Disagreed, but were sort of
agreeable together.

Agreeable together.
>> if you lower taxes on

>> if you lower taxes on
successful people you have to

Successful people you have to
raise taxes on average people.

Raise taxes on average people.
>> that is. That is. Don't

>> that is. That is. Don't
please please, honey, I don't

Please please, honey, I don't
interrupt you. That is what is

Interrupt you. That is what is
behind this whole thing.

Behind this whole thing.
>> as long as you do. They want

>> as long as you do. They want
to lower taxes. Tim russert was

To lower taxes. Tim russert was
the dominant political reporter

The dominant political reporter
in american politics. He also

In american politics. He also
had a great sense of what

Had a great sense of what
worked.

Worked.
>> he knew putting james and

>> he knew putting james and
mary on. Yeah, it was

Mary on. Yeah, it was
entertainment. She's a

Entertainment. She's a
republican. He's a democrat.

Republican. He's a democrat.
But they were smart.

But they were smart.
>> he is the resident national

>> he is the resident national
expert on lying presidents.

Expert on lying presidents.
>> tim saw not the shtick. He

>> tim saw not the shtick. He
saw the authenticity and james

Saw the authenticity and james
and mary.

And mary.
>> love em or hate em they're

>> love em or hate em they're
completely authentic.

Completely authentic.
>> they were from somewhere.

>> they were from somewhere.
They weren't just these uber

They weren't just these uber
polished elites.

Polished elites.
>> how do you think it's going

>> how do you think it's going
to do in iowa and new

To do in iowa and new
hampshire? You're the baby.

Hampshire? You're the baby.
>> anybody want a baby? Oh, no.

>> anybody want a baby? Oh, no.
>> baby we are joined by two of

>> baby we are joined by two of
my favorites, emma and maddie.

My favorites, emma and maddie.
>> carville carville and

>> carville carville and
madeleine were really sort of

Madeleine were really sort of
cable 1.0 when you really did

Cable 1.0 when you really did
try to find some common ground

Try to find some common ground
and then msnbc started to rise

And then msnbc started to rise
fox started to rise and things

Fox started to rise and things
polarized. People went to their

Polarized. People went to their
echo chambers.

Echo chambers.
>> it's always been a racket.

>> it's always been a racket.
But there was an honor and

But there was an honor and
there was civility. I'm happy

There was civility. I'm happy
that both of us were able to

That both of us were able to
work when we did in the golden

Work when we did in the golden
age.

Age.
>> won't you be perceived

>> won't you be perceived
simply as a political hitman

Simply as a political hitman
who went after ken starr and

Who went after ken starr and
tried to destroy him?

Tried to destroy him?
>> what happened was I was

>> what happened was I was
right on ken starr, and I'm

Right on ken starr, and I'm
right about this right wing

Right about this right wing
money.

Money.
>> spend, spend spend. I'll let

>> spend, spend spend. I'll let
you ramble. Let me be concise

You ramble. Let me be concise
and accurate.

And accurate.
>> this is your 10th wedding

>> this is your 10th wedding
anniversary.

Anniversary.
>> will you make ten more?

>> will you make ten more?
>> you know this is the only

>> you know this is the only
time we fight, tim so we'll be

Time we fight, tim so we'll be
right back mary matalin.

Right back mary matalin.
>> you are joining the

>> you are joining the
bush-cheney administration.

Bush-cheney administration.
>> not a minute too soon.

>> not a minute too soon.
>> why are you leaving your

>> why are you leaving your
role as private citizen and

Role as private citizen and
joining the federal government

Joining the federal government
as an advisor to the president

As an advisor to the president
and vice president?

And vice president?
>> well, as the president said

>> well, as the president said
yesterday we need to be

Yesterday we need to be
citizens, not spectators.

Citizens, not spectators.
>> your wife, is he joining the

>> your wife, is he joining the
enemy or serving our country?

Enemy or serving our country?
>> well, I mean, I think it

>> well, I mean, I think it
clearly that she and I'm very

Clearly that she and I'm very
proud of her. She thinks she's

Proud of her. She thinks she's
serving the country. She's

Serving the country. She's
serving people that she deeply

Serving people that she deeply
cares and respects for

Cares and respects for
president bush and vice

President bush and vice
president cheney.

President cheney.
>> when I went into the white

>> when I went into the white
house, quit our nice life that

House, quit our nice life that
we built with our kids were two

We built with our kids were two
and five. He stopped talking to

And five. He stopped talking to
me for many, many moons.

Me for many, many moons.
>> no comment tonight on his

>> no comment tonight on his
wife's new job from the

Wife's new job from the
democratic strategist james

Democratic strategist james
carville.

Carville.
>> he didn't want the pay cut,

>> he didn't want the pay cut,
and he didn't want the

And he didn't want the
emotional energy that he felt.

Emotional energy that he felt.
He deserved to be diverted I

He deserved to be diverted I
had to force him to come to my

Had to force him to come to my
swearing in ceremony, stood in

Swearing in ceremony, stood in
the back of the room like this.

The back of the room like this.
>> it was just such bullshit.

>> it was just such bullshit.
>> she's doing something that

>> she's doing something that
she really believes in but

She really believes in but
maybe I'll do a little bit to

Maybe I'll do a little bit to
make her job more difficult,

Make her job more difficult,
but I'm sure she's up to it

But I'm sure she's up to it
no I supported him when he

No I supported him when he
slapped me across the face by

Slapped me across the face by
doing clinton in the first

Doing clinton in the first
place, and that if any

Place, and that if any
multitasker on earth could take

Multitasker on earth could take
care of two kids and him in the

Care of two kids and him in the
house, and the time four cats

House, and the time four cats
and four dogs, and I could do

And four dogs, and I could do
it.

It.
>> and I did do it. So I

>> and I did do it. So I
resented his lack of confidence

Resented his lack of confidence
in me to get it done.

In me to get it done.
>> you can have it all. You

>> you can have it all. You
just can't have it pleasantly.

Just can't have it pleasantly.
You're always tired. You're

You're always tired. You're
always the last one in line.

Always the last one in line.
Husbands are second to the last

Husbands are second to the last
in line the repeat of that was

In line the repeat of that was
the iraq war, which he was so

The iraq war, which he was so
opposed to.

Opposed to.
>> I have my opinions about

>> I have my opinions about
that which are not worth

That which are not worth
sharing because irrelevant mary

Sharing because irrelevant mary
matalin the debate over the

Matalin the debate over the
war. How do you see it playing

War. How do you see it playing
out across the country

Americans understand the threat
that saddam poses they

That saddam poses they
understand the connection

Understand the connection
between weapons of mass

Between weapons of mass
destruction and the terrorists.

Destruction and the terrorists.
All through that iraq war.

All through that iraq war.
>> nobody was more passionate

>> nobody was more passionate
about speaking out against it

About speaking out against it
than james. Nobody was more

Than james. Nobody was more
passionate than advocating for

Passionate than advocating for
it than mary.

It than mary.
>> what do you think is going

>> what do you think is going
to hurt president bush more?

To hurt president bush more?
The fact that he hasn't found

The fact that he hasn't found
any weapons of mass destruction

Any weapons of mass destruction
in iraq, or the fact that iraq

In iraq, or the fact that iraq
is getting more violent by the

Is getting more violent by the
day, and we've been there

Day, and we've been there
forever. And the thing is going

Forever. And the thing is going
to hell in a handbasket mary

To hell in a handbasket mary
worked for cheney and I just

Worked for cheney and I just
detested the iraq war that

Detested the iraq war that
caused me to the most

Caused me to the most
discomfort. I think I

Kept I kept trying to talk to
him about it.

Him about it.
>> said, you know what you know

>> said, you know what you know
what?

What?
>> it takes two to tango. If I

>> it takes two to tango. If I
stop fighting, I'm not talking

Stop fighting, I'm not talking
about this elegant.

About this elegant.
>> and we didn't, and we

>> and we didn't, and we
haven't to this day I'm not

Haven't to this day I'm not
advising this for relationships

Advising this for relationships
sometimes if you got to have a

Sometimes if you got to have a
fight in the marriage, at least

Fight in the marriage, at least
it wasn't over the toothpaste

It wasn't over the toothpaste
cap.

Cap.
>> it was over a war.

>> it was over a war.
>> we can fight over that too

>> we can fight over that too
but I you know at some point

But I you know at some point
everything you move out. Uh

Fighting.
>> it just wasn't it wasn't

>> it just wasn't it wasn't
going to change anything

Going to change anything
catholics are supposed to stay

Catholics are supposed to stay
married I never thought about

Married I never thought about
ending my marriage. I never,

Ending my marriage. I never,
never crossed my mind.

Never crossed my mind.
>> boris happens. I get it we

>> boris happens. I get it we
were not going to divorce each

Were not going to divorce each
other we could torture each

Other we could torture each
other in perpetuity.

Other in perpetuity.
>> and there we came perilously

>> and there we came perilously
close. But we were not getting

Close. But we were not getting
divorced.

Divorced.
>> and at some point it became

>> and at some point it became
like, I don't care how much

Like, I don't care how much
you piss me off, I am not

You piss me off, I am not
leaving you and you're not

Leaving you and you're not
leaving me. And it became like,

Leaving me. And it became like,
uh, like a competition of who

Uh, like a competition of who
could outlive the other guy

Welcome back to the show
congressman brendan boyle.

Congressman brendan boyle.
He's a democrat of

He's a democrat of
pennsylvania, representing the

Pennsylvania, representing the
state's second congressional

State's second congressional
district.

District.
>> great to be back with you,

>> great to be back with you,
julie mason show 3 to 6 p.M.

Julie mason show 3 to 6 p.M.
>> eastern. One of the things

>> eastern. One of the things
in my later life that has

In my later life that has
defined me is I've spoken up

Defined me is I've spoken up
against extreme identity

Against extreme identity
politics.

Politics.
>> I saw this woke silliness

>> I saw this woke silliness
was just a disaster. I said

Was just a disaster. I said
defund the police. Three

Defund the police. Three
stupidest words in the history

Stupidest words in the history
of the english language just

Of the english language just
defund the police lunacy.

Defund the police lunacy.
>> just take abraham lincoln's

>> just take abraham lincoln's
name off of schools. I mean

Name off of schools. I mean
that people see that some of

That people see that some of
these people need to go to a

These people need to go to a
woke detox center or something

Woke detox center or something
there's just this preachy

There's just this preachy
aspect of progressive politics

Aspect of progressive politics
that people find enormously off

That people find enormously off
putting.

Putting.
>> no one wants to call people

>> no one wants to call people
black necks or any of that

Black necks or any of that
nonsense. My greatest is

Nonsense. My greatest is
cultural appropriation. So if

Cultural appropriation. So if
you come to new orleans and you

You come to new orleans and you
have a sweatshirt and says, I

Have a sweatshirt and says, I
got bourbon face on shit

Got bourbon face on shit
street, am I going to say, oh

Street, am I going to say, oh
my god, you appropriated my

My god, you appropriated my
culture. How dare you say that

Culture. How dare you say that
james is not a cultural

James is not a cultural
warrior.

Warrior.
>> he wants to find the thread

>> he wants to find the thread
that will impact the most

That will impact the most
people and therefore move the

People and therefore move the
most voters he is the voice

Most voters he is the voice
pushing the democratic party to

Pushing the democratic party to
remember the whole country if

Remember the whole country if
we keep this kind of npr

We keep this kind of npr
identity left politics, we're

Identity left politics, we're
going to lose he is singling

Democratic politics and it's
not their beliefs that he is so

Not their beliefs that he is so
upset about it's the fact that

Upset about it's the fact that
if they don't get their way,

If they don't get their way,
they'll just stay home these

They'll just stay home these
are ideas from the left that

Are ideas from the left that
are prevalent now in the

Are prevalent now in the
democratic party. And yet

Democratic party. And yet
you're speaking kind of

You're speaking kind of
negatively about the left

Negatively about the left
because it has become

Because it has become
symbolically to be interested

Symbolically to be interested
more in changing dictionaries

More in changing dictionaries
and changing lives

Know, you read an interesting
time to be alive. God bless

Time to be alive. God bless
about 10 or 11% of democrats

About 10 or 11% of democrats
described themselves as

Described themselves as
progressive, liberal, whatever

Progressive, liberal, whatever
that means, right? Okay, yes.

That means, right? Okay, yes.
This is survey after survey and

This is survey after survey and
these people are annoying

These people are annoying
silly, and most

They're talking about. I know
the original word woke was to

The original word woke was to
connote that black people need

Connote that black people need
to be woke, and their

To be woke, and their
interactions with the police.

Interactions with the police.
What happened was overeducated,

What happened was overeducated,
coastal white people got ahold

Coastal white people got ahold
of the word, and as they do

Of the word, and as they do
everything else, they

Everything else, they
completely fucked it up. And

Completely fucked it up. And
pissed everybody in the country

Pissed everybody in the country
off.

Off.
>> yeah. Now you're speaking

>> yeah. Now you're speaking
my language.

My language.
>> and if we just could get the

>> and if we just could get the
humanities faculty at amherst

Humanities faculty at amherst
to shut the fuck up would be a

To shut the fuck up would be a
lot better off.

Lot better off.
>> these groups the nice

>> these groups the nice
people. Don't get me wrong but

People. Don't get me wrong but
they don't understand

They don't understand
politics. Human motivation

Politics. Human motivation
organization picking a fight,

Organization picking a fight,
winning the fight moving to the

Winning the fight moving to the
next fight. That's what's

Next fight. That's what's
important.

Important.
>> I'm going to leave you with

>> I'm going to leave you with
another superb quote from the

Another superb quote from the
great james carville. Screw the

Great james carville. Screw the
argument. Win the election.

Argument. Win the election.
James carville

Production, and digital
distribution.

Distribution.
>> call or scan the qr code now

Spent packing.
>> I usually go to costco and

>> I usually go to costco and
just buy underwear and socks

Just buy underwear and socks
and t shirts and just throw

And t shirts and just throw
them away.

Them away.
>> it's significantly cheaper

>> it's significantly cheaper
than hotel laundry

Year.
>> I can't do that anymore

>> hope we got everything

Going to be right in front.
>> okay

James carville with some choice
words about his fellow

Words about his fellow
democrats. Joe biden is

Democrats. Joe biden is
bleeding black male voters. A

Bleeding black male voters. A
suspicion of mine quoting here

Suspicion of mine quoting here
is that there are too many

Is that there are too many
preachy females dominating the

Preachy females dominating the
culture of his party.

Culture of his party.
>> I've always thought that

>> I've always thought that
good speech uses visuals.

Good speech uses visuals.
>> if I say that the message is

>> if I say that the message is
getting out is too many preachy

Getting out is too many preachy
females everybody knows what

Females everybody knows what
I'm saying.

I'm saying.
>> democratic messaging is too

>> democratic messaging is too
feminine. I don't eat

Feminine. I don't eat
hamburgers, don't watch

Hamburgers, don't watch
football, don't drink beer but

Football, don't drink beer but
james carville basically is

James carville basically is
saying is that democrats got

Saying is that democrats got
too out of touch lost

Too out of touch lost
connection with working class

Connection with working class
voters. It's a classic

Voters. It's a classic
carville classic carville

Carville classic carville
carville added.

Carville added.
>> these women are like global

>> these women are like global
warming is real. James, you

Warming is real. James, you
gotta eat your peas. Don't

Gotta eat your peas. Don't
preach to me. Woman I'm

Preach to me. Woman I'm
spooning with my gator

Get any closer than

>> well, we'll just walk from
here

Television here. Are you trying
to get to miss? Yes ma'am.

To get to miss? Yes ma'am.
>> you want me to walk you out?

>> you want me to walk you out?
I would, I would love if you

I would, I would love if you
walked me over. Thank you

Walked me over. Thank you
ma'am.

Ma'am.
>> I'm a producer at wnbc. I'm

>> I'm a producer at wnbc. I'm
from new orleans.

From new orleans.
>> okay

Joe has got to go. Genocide joe
has got to go. Genocide, joe,

Has got to go. Genocide, joe,
you saved my life on

Carville is our special guest
on a big political night, the

On a big political night, the
biden campaign just released

Biden campaign just released
this photo. Biden is, of course

This photo. Biden is, of course
leaning on the democratic

Leaning on the democratic
predecessors.

Predecessors.
>> good to see you. You good to

>> good to see you. You good to
see you. It's an exciting time

See you. It's an exciting time
to be in manhattan.

To be in manhattan.
>> yes. Across the street. What

>> yes. Across the street. What
does it mean to have these

Does it mean to have these
three together for the

Three together for the
democratic party?

Democratic party?
>> it means historic. And I

>> it means historic. And I
think the party is starting to

Think the party is starting to
gel to come together. But we're

Gel to come together. But we're
not going to replicate the 2020

Not going to replicate the 2020
coalition. We're most people

Coalition. We're most people
think we're going to lose

Think we're going to lose
hispanic males. You've upset a

Hispanic males. You've upset a
lot of people, at least with

Lot of people, at least with
the way you put it. It's almost

The way you put it. It's almost
like I didn't tell you I was

Like I didn't tell you I was
going to ask this. It's almost

Going to ask this. It's almost
like you knew. Here's the

Like you knew. Here's the
quote, recent to the new york

Quote, recent to the new york
times, a suspicion of mine.

Times, a suspicion of mine.
James carville quote is

James carville quote is
there's too many quote preachy

There's too many quote preachy
females sometimes I go out on a

Females sometimes I go out on a
limb and say provocative

Limb and say provocative
things.

Things.
>> but what I was trying to do

>> but what I was trying to do
is bring attention to the fact

Is bring attention to the fact
that we're losing males.

That we're losing males.
>> do you know what I succeeded

In marching. All right. Thank
you thank you.

You thank you.
>> good to see you yeah. Thank

>> good to see you yeah. Thank
you oh, how I want to be in

You oh, how I want to be in
that number oh, when the saints

That number oh, when the saints
go, go marching in

>> I want to have a cup of
black please.

Black please.
>> you're a vip mug.

>> you're a vip mug.
>> there you go

Living here most places kind of
discard the elderly and here

Discard the elderly and here
the elderly are treated with

The elderly are treated with
respect and that is not common

Respect and that is not common
I just don't want to grow old

I just don't want to grow old
among strangers.

Among strangers.
>> that's just something that.

>> that's just something that.
>> that's why I wanted to come

>> that's why I wanted to come
here this is a sign of an

Here this is a sign of an
advanced civilization a donut

Advanced civilization a donut
is the sign of a fat cop

>> I've never seen this kind
of traffic on top of tourists.

Of traffic on top of tourists.
>> well, I spent the day with

>> well, I spent the day with
your beautiful model daughter.

Your beautiful model daughter.
She's kicking it at the farm.

She's kicking it at the farm.
And emerson has a date tonight

And emerson has a date tonight
with a republican.

With a republican.
>> oh, wow sadly, I want her to

>> oh, wow sadly, I want her to
get politics. What difference

Get politics. What difference
does it make?

Does it make?
>> just have fun because

>> just have fun because
republican men are micro

Republican men are micro
penises. I cannot end aren't I?

Penises. I cannot end aren't I?
>> just don't come on, come on

>> just don't come on, come on
I have fun, honey love you.

I have fun, honey love you.
>> dad, I love you all. Okay I

>> dad, I love you all. Okay I
did, I meant that emotionally I

Did, I meant that emotionally I
know that. I know that, honey I

Know that. I know that, honey I
know that but did you get that

Know that but did you get that
non sequitur?

Non sequitur?
>> I love you, love you. Bye

>> I love you, love you. Bye
bye.

Bye.
>> she's embarrassed by

About us initially. Then it
turned into today we are some

Turned into today we are some
sort of prescription for

Sort of prescription for
bipartisan civility. Like we do

Bipartisan civility. Like we do
not have bipartisan civility.

Not have bipartisan civility.
We have marital civility. We

We have marital civility. We
have bipartisan cacophony

People can infer what they want
or don't want from it it's all

Or don't want from it it's all
how central your politics are.

How central your politics are.
You they are tens of millions

You they are tens of millions
of people in the united states

Of people in the united states
that don't even know anybody

That don't even know anybody
from another party it never

From another party it never
occurred to me that your love

Occurred to me that your love
interest and politics would be

Interest and politics would be
a determinant in a

A determinant in a
relationship.

Relationship.
>> but a majority of people

>> but a majority of people
don't want to date somebody

Don't want to date somebody
from the other party so a

From the other party so a
majority of people just want to

Majority of people just want to
like, think like they think and

Like, think like they think and
be validated.

Be validated.
>> 24 over seven.

>> 24 over seven.
>> well, I think that's

>> well, I think that's
sorrowful I have to agree with

Sorrowful I have to agree with
him, but he makes me think

Him, but he makes me think
there is not a day that goes by

There is not a day that goes by
that I don't hear something new

That I don't hear something new
from him or laugh at some weird

From him or laugh at some weird
thing that he thinks is funny.

Thing that he thinks is funny.
Be curious he's just like lives

Be curious he's just like lives
in his own world and I love

In his own world and I love
that he's just a wonder it's

That he's just a wonder it's
like a wonder of nature but so

Like a wonder of nature but so
is a hurricane. It's so nice.

Is a hurricane. It's so nice.
You just had to batten down the

You just had to batten down the
hatches and get a stiff martini

Hatches and get a stiff martini
and let the hurricane pass by

Immigration and border security
what I've done since I've

What I've done since I've
changed the law. You're in a

Changed the law. You're in a
situation where there are 40%

Situation where there are 40%
fewer people coming across the

Fewer people coming across the
border illegally. That's better

Border illegally. That's better
than when he left office. And

Than when he left office. And
I'm going to continue to move

I'm going to continue to move
until we get the total ban on

Until we get the total ban on
the total initiative relative

The total initiative relative
to what we're going to do with

To what we're going to do with
more border patrol and more

More border patrol and more
asylum officers president

Asylum officers president
trump, I really don't know what

Trump, I really don't know what
he said at the end of that

He said at the end of that
sentence.

Sentence.
>> I don't think he knows what

>> I don't think he knows what
he said either before you even

He said either before you even
get into the mumbling and

Get into the mumbling and
fumbling and missteps and

Fumbling and missteps and
stumbling, the optics alone are

Stumbling, the optics alone are
so devastating. Um, dealing

So devastating. Um, dealing
with everything we have to do

With everything we have to do
with uh, look if we finally

With uh, look if we finally
beat medicare, he is too weak.

Beat medicare, he is too weak.
>> he is too frail. He is a

>> he is too frail. He is a
cognitive mess. What was your

Cognitive mess. What was your
personal take on what you saw

Personal take on what you saw
tonight? And what are you

Tonight? And what are you
hearing from the people you've

Hearing from the people you've
been speaking with?

Been speaking with?
>> it's kind of a defcon. One

>> it's kind of a defcon. One
moment.

Moment.
>> there is a deep a wide and a

>> there is a deep a wide and a
very aggressive panic in the

Very aggressive panic in the
democratic party.

Democratic party.
>> you got to test to me

>> you got to test to me
tonight to restore confidence

Tonight to restore confidence
of the country and of the base

Of the country and of the base
and he failed to do that

Times worse three minutes after
it started, I said fuck this. I

It started, I said fuck this. I
took two gummies and listened

Took two gummies and listened
to country music.

To country music.
>> yeah, james you were right.

>> yeah, james you were right.
>> four years ago and you're

>> four years ago and you're
right again this time, who

Right again this time, who
could have seen this coming?

Could have seen this coming?
>> oh wait, right, I do know

>> oh wait, right, I do know
this. The worst thing that

This. The worst thing that
could happen to you in politics

Could happen to you in politics
is you

And what happened last night is
people suspected that he was

People suspected that he was
too old for the job. And they

Too old for the job. And they
walked away saying, well, yeah,

Walked away saying, well, yeah,
he is too old for the job. I

He is too old for the job. I
think it's that simple.

Think it's that simple.
>> it's been obvious for

>> it's been obvious for
months years. Biden is too old.

Months years. Biden is too old.
>> what has worked nothing

>> what has worked nothing
nothing I tried, man, I tried

The road with the harris-walz
campaign.

Campaign.
>> and this is cnn

People who watch joe biden will
say to themselves I want this

Say to themselves I want this
guy as president in three

Guy as president in three
years, voters have been telling

Years, voters have been telling
democrats that on polls,

Democrats that on polls,
basically the whole time joe

Basically the whole time joe
biden has been president

Biden has been president
democrats, or at least joe

Democrats, or at least joe
biden, have not been listening.

Biden, have not been listening.
>> and now they're going to

>> and now they're going to
have to decide whether or not

Have to decide whether or not
they're going to listen we're

They're going to listen we're
on track to lose an election to

On track to lose an election to
a major criminal who is going

A major criminal who is going
to destroy the western

To destroy the western
alliance, the constitution, and

Alliance, the constitution, and
everything in between.

Everything in between.
>> so we ought to act like it.

>> so we ought to act like it.
>> we're up against the wall.

>> we're up against the wall.
The democratic party is the

The democratic party is the
united states of america is up

United states of america is up
against the wall. The country

Against the wall. The country
is clamoring for change james

Is clamoring for change james
carville who has urged biden

Carville who has urged biden
not to run again, told the

Not to run again, told the
times.

Times.
>> you know how bad the

>> you know how bad the
upcoming dnc in chicago is

Upcoming dnc in chicago is
going to be. We are going to

Going to be. We are going to
sit shiva for four days, a

Sit shiva for four days, a
reference to a jewish grief

Reference to a jewish grief
ritual yeah, I mean, I would

Ritual yeah, I mean, I would
defer to rabbi carville on that

Defer to rabbi carville on that
when I was young, I saw a

When I was young, I saw a
democrat as the party of hope I

Democrat as the party of hope I
have a dream keep hope alive

Have a dream keep hope alive
the man from hope. The hope

The man from hope. The hope
host.

Host.
>> we hope. And we want other

>> we hope. And we want other
people to have hope. That's why

People to have hope. That's why
we do what we do and we're now

We do what we do and we're now
at a party, frankly, at a

At a party, frankly, at a
crossroads where did michael

Crossroads where did michael
corleone say, how do you get

Corleone say, how do you get
out of this business so 30

Out of this business so 30
years I've been out

Years I've been out
pontificating and strategizing

Pontificating and strategizing
in public, maybe people will

In public, maybe people will
say, we've had enough of james

Say, we've had enough of james
carville. Thank you. We need

Carville. Thank you. We need
some new blood out I'd say

Some new blood out I'd say
understand that I probably

Understand that I probably
enough of myself it's just so

Enough of myself it's just so
nonsensical politics today I

Nonsensical politics today I
feel bad that my heart no

Feel bad that my heart no
longer belongs to politics his

Longer belongs to politics his
vehicle for policy is still

Vehicle for policy is still
open to him but as he well

Open to him but as he well
knows the problems and the

Knows the problems and the
solutions are bigger than a guy

Solutions are bigger than a guy
the responsibility of governing

The responsibility of governing
requires you actually to have

Requires you actually to have
the power to govern, and you

The power to govern, and you
can't have the power to govern

Can't have the power to govern
if you do not win so in that

If you do not win so in that
sense, winning is everything.

Sense, winning is everything.
>> and james is in the business

>> and james is in the business
of winning elections without

Of winning elections without
losing your soul

Have a more just society far
and away, the best way to

And away, the best way to
accomplish that is through

Accomplish that is through
political power. But without

Political power. But without
political power you're not

Political power you're not
going to get the shit done I'm

Going to get the shit done I'm
gonna head out and okay, you

Gonna head out and okay, you
ready?

Ready?
>> go, go by james.

>> go, go by james.
>> bye bye.

>> bye bye.
>> thank you damn it.

>> thank you damn it.
>> this country is worth

>> this country is worth
fighting for the principle of

Fighting for the principle of
the generation of promise is

The generation of promise is
worth fulfilling.

Worth fulfilling.
>> and I am not going to let

>> and I am not going to let
anybody say at a time that our

Anybody say at a time that our
basic institutions, our basic

Basic institutions, our basic
philosophy, our sense of

Philosophy, our sense of
decency, and our sense of

Decency, and our sense of
national purpose is under

National purpose is under
attack that I sat by and did

Attack that I sat by and did
nothing more than pull a legal

Nothing more than pull a legal
that's your choice I think I

That's your choice I think I
know what you're going to do I

Know what you're going to do I
know that you people and people

Know that you people and people
like you around this country

Like you around this country
want to not just fight back but

Want to not just fight back but
you want to fight for something

You want to fight for something
you want to fight for this

You want to fight for this
nation.

Nation.
>> you want to fight for its

>> you want to fight for its
people you want to fight for

People you want to fight for
its children.

Its children.
>> the most importantly, you

>> the most importantly, you
want to fight for its future we

Want to fight for its future we
have big battles coming up

Thank you

Bless you. God bless the united
states of america

A parade is coming. I grab, I
grab a whistle, a baton and a

Grab a whistle, a baton and a
high hat. And I throw the baton

High hat. And I throw the baton
in the air because there's a

In the air because there's a
parade and it's called the

Parade and it's called the
kamala harris parade. They can

Kamala harris parade. They can
do whatever they want, but this

Do whatever they want, but this
train has left the station. Eat

Train has left the station. Eat
her dust she put her entire

Her dust she put her entire
career at stake. Ellen's coming

Career at stake. Ellen's coming
out episode says to the world

Out episode says to the world
it's okay to be gay.

It's okay to be gay.
>> I don't think I realize how

>> I don't think I realize how
much it meant till I saw the

Much it meant till I saw the
reaction on tv on the edge

Reaction on tv on the edge
moments that shaped our culture

Moments that shaped our culture
tomorrow at nine on cnn. Hey

Tomorrow at nine on cnn. Hey
mom, how many should I decorate

Mom, how many should I decorate
of each half red, half blue

Of each half red, half blue
ooh, that's a really tough

Ooh, that's a really tough
call. Who are you?

Call. Who are you?
>> that's john king from cnn.

>> that's john king from cnn.
>> let's look at the data.

>> let's look at the data.
Your county leaned red by 15

Your county leaned red by 15
points in the last presidential

Points in the last presidential
election. However, looking at

Election. However, looking at
the latest polling, you're

The latest polling, you're
going to need a lot of those

Going to need a lot of those
purple sprinkles

>> no it's a step