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Prince Turkey if you were still ambassador here
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what would you be
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trying to get the British government to do
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about Israel Gaza
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I mentioned that in my talk to Chatham House
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I said that the
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the efforts of the government now are welcome
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but they're a bit shy
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I think
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they can do more in stoppage of military support
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and other such considerations to the Israelis
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but they can also
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come forward and recognize the Palestinian state
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as you know
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there's been a parliamentary resolution on that
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many years ago
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on recognizing Palestine as state
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which has not been implemented by governments in the UK
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and do it now I hope so
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I think they should do that
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do you think
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do you think peace is possible
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while Netanyahu is in Israel
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and Hamas is in Gaza not under
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needs to be got rid of
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not under the present circumstances
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if there were more pressure put on
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on them um
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they might come forward as you know
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miss anything Yahoo
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has had a record of of
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of coming forward and not coming forward
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the wide river agreement in America on Harbourne
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if remember
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he came through on that
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and accepted American pressure at that time
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I think if there is more pressure on him
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like recognizing a Palestinian state
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and stopping weapons going to him etc
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he might come around but when his supporters
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like the United States and European countries
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don't do that why should he do that
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Saudi Arabia is no friend of Hamas
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and you have condemned Hamas
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um but how
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how do you deal with Hamas
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how do you get Hamas out of the picture
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two two propositions
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I think if there is going to be
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a ceasefire agreement
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based on United Nations Security Council resolution
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it has to be United Nations Security Council resolution
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in succession to the previous
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Security Council resolutions
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because it's important to keep them in mind
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um
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there should be a stipulation in that Security Council
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resolution
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that those who do not accept a two state solution
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for Palestine and Israel
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are not allowed to be participants in any peace
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in the future
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and that definitely will exclude Netanyahu
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because he's already declared
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his opposition to a Palestinian state
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and any Hamas leader
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who does not recognize the two state solution
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as the present leadership at Hamas does not
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so that's one way of doing it
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um the other way
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of course uh
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is that the the
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I hope the the people in mother's day
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if they see that there is hope for
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an end to the killing that they will turn on Hamas and
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and ask them for a reckoning
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about the thousands of people who've been killed
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and the destruction of their homes
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and their hospitals their schools
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etc and throw them out
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um because that's basically what Hamas brought
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to the people of US
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a lot of people wonder
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why Saudi Arabia is not taking a more muscular
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position over this you know
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in 1973 there was an oil embargo against western states
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who supported Israel
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why does Saudi Arabia not do more like that
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well you know
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imposing an oil embargo on
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on whoever these days is not going to work
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um there's a lot of oil in the world
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and the producers of oil since 1973
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have expanded considerably
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The United States now hardly imports any
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any oil because it has its own resources
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Europe of course
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though dependent on imports and so on
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yet the producers of oil go beyond Saudi Arabia
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and the Arab world and so on
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so that as a tool
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is not going to work nowadays
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but when you mean robust what do you mean by robust
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do you mean the
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Saudi Arabia should declare war on Israel
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or should declare war on the United States and the UK
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for supporting Israel that not only would be foolish
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but it will expand the conflict rather than limiting it
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we want to see an end to the fighting
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and that's where we put all our
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political and economic resources
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to convince countries
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to support an end to the fighting
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and you know
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the delegation from the Arab and Muslim countries
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that goes around the world
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to convince the governments
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to support such a proposition
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is LED by Saudi Arabia so
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how much more robust do you want us to be
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in terms of providing support
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to the Palestinian people
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we have never hesitated in doing that
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there is a public fund
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that has been instituted by the government for
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so it is to contribute to the people of Gaza
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and the supplies of humanitarian
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medical and other aid going to Gaza
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either through the trucks that go through Saudi Arabia
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but also through ships that go to Egyptian ports
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to provide support for for Gaza continue
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what do you think Saudi Arabia's role would be
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in the building of a new Palestinian state
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well I think
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any support we can give to the Palestinian people
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we will not hesitate to do
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I cannot specify any any particular um
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department or or action that the Kingdom can take
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but there will be loss of Saudi money
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not just money but technical
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know how political support
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whatever you want Yanny
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but you know
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reconstructing Halza should be a world responsibility
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and there should be a United Nations fund to do that
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and I think we should also impose on the Israelis
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to pay for some of the reconstruction in Russia
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because of the
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they are the ones who destroyed that infrastructure
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do you still think normalization
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of relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel
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is realistic well
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under the present circumstances
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with Mr Netanyahu and his government
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saying that
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they are not going to recognize the Palestinian state
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the Kingdom is not going to recognize Israel
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