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Hello, I'm Michael Hirst,
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creator, writer,
executive producer of Vikings.
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And I'm Gustaf Skarsgรฅrd
and I play Floki.
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Yeah, here's the baby.
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My son and your grandson, Michael.
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- In a curious, twisted way.
- Your daughter, daughter.
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Yes. So...
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Floki.
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So we're starting on
the final episode
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of Season 2 of Vikings,
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in which many things come true
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and other things are revealed.
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It was a really, really interesting
episode to write.
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- Very fun to act.
- Right.
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Lot of levels to work with.
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So, here's Floki seeing
his child for the first time.
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And, as you see, he's so happy.
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A girl.
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- I don't want to drop her.
- You won't drop her.
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Yeah.
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A girl.
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A beautiful, beautiful...
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I think Maudie plays this scene
very well as well.
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Yeah.
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Here's the darkness.
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Yes.
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From that happiness
to, "How is it possible?"
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To, "It's impossible."
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It cannot be mine. It can't be true.
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I don't deserve that.
I could not have made that.
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Angrboda.
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- The name of Loki's first wife?
- Yes, yes.
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But she's...
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What's wrong with that?
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They thought she was evil.
They had monstrous offspring.
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She was a great giantess, Helga.
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So cruel.
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Will you come back with us?
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Will you get to know your daughter?
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No.
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I have to stay in Kattegat.
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But you, you must go home.
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Can't I stay awhile?
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You don't understand, Helga.
You have to leave.
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So, of course, the subtext is
that you're saving her life.
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Yes, of course.
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Like you beat a dog to...
Remember that scene from Call of the Wild,
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he had to beat the dog
to have it abandon him.
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Yes, that's right.
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Throwing stones
at the dog to leave.
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To save it.
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It's definitely that.
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And that's revealed by that
little sigh there at the end of it.
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It's a hard thing to do.
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Very hard thing
to do for him.
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But, of course, it was to protect her.
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So, there are two agendas
happening simultaneously.
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There's Horik's agenda,
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and although we don't realize it,
there's Ragnar's agenda.
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And of course, Horik has made up his mind
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that he can no longer work
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or trust Ragnar.
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That Ragnar is too famous
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and too big for his boots.
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I never really did respect
Horik in the first place.
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No.
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Come. Come, family.
I want you to meet Ragnar, huh?
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Are you hungry?
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But I think we do believe,
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for quite a way into this episode
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that Horik's thinking
has outstripped Ragnar's,
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that Horik really has a plan.
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- And it's a...
- Well, we have to.
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Yeah, and it's a fairly efficient plan.
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Yeah, it's that balance that
we had to thread
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through these last couple of episodes
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to lead the audience on and still make it
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believable and truthful
subjectively to the characters.
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And as far as
the audience are concerned,
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both Siggy and Floki
have bought into the plan,
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the conspiracy.
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In this endeavor,
I see you more than ever as an equal.
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And both having reasons to do so.
It's not...
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...we have already accomplished so much.
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We have land and opportunity in Wessex.
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But that is only the beginning.
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We know already
there are many other worlds to discover,
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and we shall do so together,
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united even more by the bonds of family.
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For you have many sons,
and as you can see, I have many daughters.
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So, in actual fact,
nearly everything that is said
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in this episode
is either a lie or the opposite is true.
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Yeah.
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Virtually, no one tells the truth.
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This is a funny moment,
when I approach Horik here.
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No, that's next beat.
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Oh, you are more famous, Gunnhild.
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The poets talk of your exploits.
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They tell how you killed Sweyn Forkbeard
when he invaded Gรถtland.
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And they say that you are now
an earl in your own right.
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How did it happen?
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I killed my husband when he invaded me.
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- What is it?
- Don't you remember?
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You were going to put a proposition for me.
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Was I?
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Yes. And I am still waiting.
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The thing is, Floki,
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I'm not entirely sure I can trust you.
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So, this is Floki getting
pissed off at himself
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for having been a bad actor.
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He hasn't got... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He failed there, because he's
trying to get out of him and he failed.
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And he hasn't earned his trust,
so he's like, "Fuck!"
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- Yeah. The secret agent has failed.- Yeah.
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And he's very hard on himself there.
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So, he just starts drinking and
becomes really nasty this night,
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because he feels like such a bad actor.
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Yeah, he might have
thrown away the...
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You were the first to treat me
as if I was not a slave.
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Because if he doesn't find out,
then everyone is more at peril.
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Yeah, yeah, totally.
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There are plenty of other women here.
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That is your first mistake.
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I like her very much as well.
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Gaia.
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She's beautiful, but she's great.
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Ah, Torstein.
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Up to your usual tricks I see.
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These two beautiful women
approached me.
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They chose you for the size
of your silver pouch, nothing else.
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I don't think about it too much.
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- If these women don't love me...
- ...what do I care?
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They will still make me happy.
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Here, have some more.
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Jealousy of other people's
light-heartedness.
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Yeah. Yes.
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- Siggy.
- I am pleased to see you.
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I would like to know your plans
while you are here.
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My wife is here. My children are here.
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That's all you need to know.
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It's the burden of being
a serious jester,
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which comics down the ages
have felt, you know.
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It's a terribly serious and difficult
and often tragic role.
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What is that shit you're holding, Erlendur?
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This is Wessex earth.
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It is my inheritance.
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Why did you come back, Priest?
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Nobody wants you here.
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You betrayed the gods.
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You betrayed all of us.
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It's your fault Rollo's going to die.
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So, you're becoming
more and more unpleasant
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as this episode unfolds,
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which is exactly what we needed.
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Yeah. That's what we needed
the audience to think as well.
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Subjectively, I just felt like...
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He was just so pissed off
with himself for having failed,
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that he didn't earn his trust
and then he's just being a bad drunk.
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He's just walking around
being nasty to people.
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The vision of Christ, I think,
wasn't in the American version.
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- No. It wasn't, was it?
- No.
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And neither was the part
with Erlendur and the Wessex earth.
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Yeah, no.
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Again, it's so sad when
these things are dropped,
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but as you say, that's...
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Especially, I guess, for you,
things that you plant,
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that will become significant down the line.
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That earth thing is difficult because
I put it into the third season.
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You know, why else would
Ragnar have spared...
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- Yeah, his life.
- His life.
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Kill someone...
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So here, he's getting back in.
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Thank goodness for that.
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So, now he's actually
thinking, "Yes! I got him back."
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But, it could also be read
as malevolence or...
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- Yeah, yeah, exactly.- It was very fun as an actor,
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in this episode, to thread
that line the whole time.
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I have to play it in a way
so the audience can buy into it,
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that I'm actually going dark
and betraying Ragnar.
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And, of course, Ragnar now looks
completely drunk and out of it.
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Not able to see
what's happening around him.
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Which is another reason why
you might join with someone
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- who is very calculating and very able.- Yeah, exactly.
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So, what I'm thinking here is,
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"Yes! I earned his trust again.
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"I'm back in the position
where I wanna be."
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But people could also see it as bloodlust
and like, "Yeah, I'm gonna kill someone."
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Yeah.
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...and that growing up
is a process of forgetting.
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How's your baby? How's Ivar?
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Do you know?
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Yes.
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And I tell you this, what you're doing
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is far more courageous
than fighting in a shield wall.
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I just want you to know.
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Thank you.
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A good bit of female bonding.
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This is interesting,
the coin-flicking game,
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that was invented already
in the first season, in the first block,
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when Johan Renck was still here.
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We started playing this game,
with his assistant Sebastiaan.
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Yeah. And I saw it one day.
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Yeah, you saw it one day,
and then,
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- it made the show.- Yes, it made the show.
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- It made it in there.- Well, I knew that,
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from our historical consultant,
that Vikings loved to play games.
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Yes. Who hasn't?
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So, I just needed some games
that we could shoot, that would be...
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I think we showed chess already,
we've showed sort of unexpected things.
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But this is like a game
of the common man, you know.
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Have you made up your mind?
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Yes.
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I know who I will kill.
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- Here's the reveal.- Yeah.
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Gotcha.
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It's a great show to look back on it.
'cause you played that so well,
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and it's only when you look back at it
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that all the clues are there
if you wanna read them.
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Exactly.
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It's not what's happening on the
surface, it's what's happening underneath.
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That's so fun.
Great stuff to play with.
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Yeah.
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Here, he's collecting
the mushrooms to kill people.
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- Mmm.- The poison mushrooms.
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- Or to seemingly kill.- Yeah.
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I love that,
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whenever you write in that,
Floki's connection to nature, I love that.
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That he is a man of the forest,
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and he has the knowledge
of all the herbs and the mushrooms.
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What should
the rest of us do, hmm?
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Those who do not wish to be farmers.
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Those can join King Ecbert
and Princess Kwenthrith
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in the battle for Mercia.
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I'm sure they will be rewarded well.
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I agree with you.
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I think we should claim the land,
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but I do not like the idea
of being Ecbert's handmaiden.
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I still have a score to settle with him,
and unlike Ragnar, I do not trust him.
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He reminds me of the giantess Hel.
You remember?
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Mmm.
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Her face, her neck, her arms, her breasts,
all pink.
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But beneath her waist,
every inch of her flesh
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is decayed and rotten and greenish-black.
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Yes, that might be true, Father.
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But isn't it best to test him
to see if he is honest?
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I believe he is telling the truth.
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Then you are still innocent.
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It does not seem to matter how many
experiences you have, Athelstan.
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In the end,
you are still like the young monk I first met.
252
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So you agree with me?
253
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No. I agree that those
who wish to farm should do so
254
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and also ask for King Ecbert's protection.
255
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But for some of us,
those of us who still want to raid,
256
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we will go elsewhere,
explore and discover new places.
257
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You'll notice that Ragnar
didn't say anything.
258
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- Yeah.- In that scene,
259
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in which you would possibly expect him
to have an opinion.
260
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And in a little while, I'll explain why
261
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he didn't say anything in that scene.
262
00:17:05,567 --> 00:17:06,735
How is he?
263
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He's alive.
264
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Will he ever walk again?
265
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Only the gods know.
266
00:17:31,969 --> 00:17:35,681
But in so many ways,
this is your episode, isn't it?
267
00:17:36,473 --> 00:17:38,142
- Yeah, I think so.
- Yeah.
268
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I'm very glad about that,
that that's how it worked out.
269
00:17:42,312 --> 00:17:43,939
And quite rightly, because...
270
00:17:44,398 --> 00:17:49,862
Actually, the whole conspiracy
hinges upon you, you know.
271
00:17:51,321 --> 00:17:52,948
No, it was great fun.
272
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It really was.
273
00:17:59,705 --> 00:18:04,084
And also here, because, again,
we haven't really brought up the conflict.
274
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I mean, at the beginning of the season,
275
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Rollo nearly killed me.
276
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Or he nearly killed Floki and
it has never been mentioned.
277
00:18:12,843 --> 00:18:16,597
And of course, if he was to kill anyone,
it would be Rollo.
278
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Yes, he still has a grudge against...
279
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So that's when we came up
with that idea, to reconnect that line...
280
00:18:26,481 --> 00:18:28,817
To reconnect with the first episode.
281
00:18:30,194 --> 00:18:35,115
So, what he does here is, actually,
he forgives him for the first time.
282
00:18:35,657 --> 00:18:37,159
I brought you something.
283
00:18:38,619 --> 00:18:42,915
Then again, I had to play it in a way
so the audience could also believe
284
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- that this is where I kill him.
- Yeah.
285
00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:50,881
Eat.
286
00:18:57,054 --> 00:19:00,557
Yes,
wonderfully ambivalent expression.
287
00:19:26,875 --> 00:19:28,126
He softened there,
288
00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:31,255
the millisecond at the end,
you can see him softening.
289
00:19:31,338 --> 00:19:32,339
Yeah.
290
00:19:33,715 --> 00:19:35,133
Yeah, I know.
291
00:19:36,927 --> 00:19:42,266
So again, subjectively, Floki goes to Rollo
292
00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:47,020
to give him the magic mushrooms
or the mushrooms to give him strength...
293
00:19:47,104 --> 00:19:52,192
Strength from the Gods, because he knows
that Floki will be needed.
294
00:19:52,276 --> 00:19:54,987
- But Rollo will be needed.
- Yeah.
295
00:19:58,156 --> 00:19:59,658
That must be our secret.
296
00:19:59,741 --> 00:20:01,618
He could have
spared the kid, though.
297
00:20:01,702 --> 00:20:02,953
Yes.
298
00:20:03,787 --> 00:20:06,331
- It's gilding the lily, I think. A little bit.
- Yeah.
299
00:20:08,667 --> 00:20:10,127
Do you know what will happen?
300
00:20:10,752 --> 00:20:12,129
I'll tell you.
301
00:20:12,838 --> 00:20:16,675
When the god Loki
had done something terribly bad,
302
00:20:16,758 --> 00:20:20,012
the other gods took him
to a nasty dark cave.
303
00:20:20,345 --> 00:20:24,224
And there they chained him
on three sharp rocks,
304
00:20:24,308 --> 00:20:28,395
and above him they fastened a vile snake
305
00:20:28,478 --> 00:20:33,984
so that its poison would drip, drip, drip
forever on Loki's face.
306
00:20:35,235 --> 00:20:38,739
Now, you wouldn't want that
to happen to you, would you?
307
00:20:39,656 --> 00:20:41,575
- He's so good, little Cormac.- Yeah.
308
00:20:44,786 --> 00:20:45,871
Yes.
309
00:20:46,413 --> 00:20:47,873
...but keep the secret.
310
00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:56,340
It's strange, isn't it?
It's just, also, who the camera likes.
311
00:20:56,715 --> 00:20:58,467
The camera chooses
312
00:20:59,301 --> 00:21:02,012
who it's going to like and engage with.
313
00:21:04,222 --> 00:21:05,223
Yeah.
314
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,435
So, some kids that wouldn't work
even if they had angelic faces,
315
00:21:08,518 --> 00:21:09,936
or whatever they looked like.
316
00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:12,981
But others, something is going on
that the camera likes
317
00:21:13,065 --> 00:21:15,734
and is kind of interested in,
slightly intrigued by.
318
00:21:18,528 --> 00:21:19,946
- Here we go.
- Yeah.
319
00:21:21,031 --> 00:21:22,991
So I always...
We never spoke about this, Michael.
320
00:21:23,075 --> 00:21:26,703
I always thought of the mushrooms that...
321
00:21:27,162 --> 00:21:29,664
It was kind of like they did poison him,
322
00:21:29,748 --> 00:21:32,918
and that I would later
give him an antidote or something.
323
00:21:33,001 --> 00:21:35,629
Right.
I'd never thought of that, that's...
324
00:21:35,712 --> 00:21:37,506
How do you think of it,
325
00:21:37,589 --> 00:21:39,966
the mushrooms that I gave him?
326
00:21:40,050 --> 00:21:41,718
We'll find the guilty one.
327
00:21:41,802 --> 00:21:44,012
They were just harmless.
328
00:21:50,185 --> 00:21:51,686
Yeah, that's Floki overacting.
329
00:21:53,605 --> 00:21:55,065
- Playing the part.
- Yeah.
330
00:22:04,199 --> 00:22:05,742
You did well.
331
00:22:07,786 --> 00:22:09,871
Now I know I can trust you.
332
00:22:14,751 --> 00:22:18,922
So, what is your plan?
333
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,550
I will kill them all.
334
00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:23,885
- All?
- Yes, all.
335
00:22:24,678 --> 00:22:26,888
- Ragnar?
- Of course Ragnar.
336
00:22:26,972 --> 00:22:29,349
And Lagertha and Aslaug.
337
00:22:29,433 --> 00:22:31,601
All of them. All their bastard children.
338
00:22:31,685 --> 00:22:34,646
I will wipe his family
from the face of the earth.
339
00:22:36,231 --> 00:22:37,691
You fucker.
340
00:22:41,445 --> 00:22:45,157
Bjorn Ironside. He is difficult to kill.
341
00:22:46,116 --> 00:22:49,953
Perhaps the gods are protecting him.
You must find a way to kill him.
342
00:22:51,496 --> 00:22:55,459
I have no doubt you will manage.
I know you will manage.
343
00:22:57,627 --> 00:22:58,795
When?
344
00:23:01,047 --> 00:23:04,050
Tomorrow. Be prepared, my friend.
345
00:23:05,093 --> 00:23:09,431
Now Floki finally had all
the crucial information he needed.
346
00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:23,153
I did hit my head
walking out of there.
347
00:23:25,614 --> 00:23:27,908
Do we get the threesome in this
version, I wonder?
348
00:23:28,492 --> 00:23:30,744
Yeah, I don't know.
349
00:23:30,827 --> 00:23:32,245
It's 'cause it wasn't in the American.
350
00:23:32,329 --> 00:23:34,831
No, I heard.
351
00:23:38,293 --> 00:23:40,253
Yeah,
that's quite a big difference,
352
00:23:40,337 --> 00:23:42,255
whether they had a threesome or not.
353
00:23:42,339 --> 00:23:43,340
Yeah.
354
00:23:44,841 --> 00:23:46,218
The gods are coming.
355
00:23:48,386 --> 00:23:49,638
I know.
356
00:23:53,850 --> 00:23:55,602
I mean, you'd have to pay those
lines off."The gods are coming." "I know."
357
00:23:55,977 --> 00:23:57,145
No, it's not here.
358
00:23:59,773 --> 00:24:00,774
Yeah.
359
00:24:03,693 --> 00:24:07,656
Apparently, one of the reasons
the editors gave for not showing it
360
00:24:07,739 --> 00:24:13,620
was that they couldn't get
one shot of Ragnar,
361
00:24:13,870 --> 00:24:16,873
who's between these two women,
looking serious at all.
362
00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:18,541
That he's smiling.
363
00:24:19,709 --> 00:24:23,296
The director kept going,
"Come on, Travis, just give us...
364
00:24:23,380 --> 00:24:26,216
"You know, 'cause the gods are coming.
This is deeply serious." And he said,
365
00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:29,052
"Look, mate, I've just had a threesome.
366
00:24:29,135 --> 00:24:30,470
"I'm having a good time."
367
00:24:30,553 --> 00:24:32,347
- Yeah.
- "All right."
368
00:24:34,641 --> 00:24:35,642
What can I do?
369
00:24:36,142 --> 00:24:37,185
You can fight...
370
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:39,980
I just think, if you just put
a shot like that and it's so unexpected
371
00:24:42,565 --> 00:24:47,904
and inexplicable, but it's somehow
connected to, "The gods are coming."
372
00:24:48,613 --> 00:24:51,741
So no more rules apply suddenly.
373
00:24:52,450 --> 00:24:55,662
- The world is changing. Oh! Here it is.- Here it is.
374
00:24:56,204 --> 00:24:58,790
- Yeah, he's a happy camper.- Yeah, he's a happy camper.
375
00:25:04,045 --> 00:25:05,046
Yeah.
376
00:25:07,966 --> 00:25:08,967
Yeah.
377
00:25:11,177 --> 00:25:13,638
It makes sense to me.
378
00:25:26,568 --> 00:25:28,570
They've had quite
a complicated relationship
379
00:25:28,653 --> 00:25:30,655
right from the start.
380
00:25:35,452 --> 00:25:36,870
It's no use.
381
00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:41,458
It's been very complicated,
but I like to think
382
00:25:42,417 --> 00:25:44,794
that all the major characters
in the show are complicated.
383
00:25:44,878 --> 00:25:45,879
Oh, yeah.
384
00:25:46,004 --> 00:25:48,923
What do you care if I give up...
385
00:25:49,007 --> 00:25:50,759
Very few of them...
386
00:25:50,842 --> 00:25:55,138
Can't think of any that are either
really good or really bad and...
387
00:25:59,851 --> 00:26:01,853
- Definitely.- I mean, apart from anything else,
388
00:26:01,936 --> 00:26:05,023
they go around murdering innocent monks.
389
00:26:08,902 --> 00:26:09,903
To whom?
390
00:26:11,488 --> 00:26:13,323
They weren't
innocent to them.
391
00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:15,492
No, that's right.
392
00:26:16,242 --> 00:26:19,204
The Huffington Post wrote a great article
393
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:24,542
about the show,
saying it's the only show on network TV
394
00:26:24,626 --> 00:26:26,669
that takes religious beliefs seriously.
395
00:26:27,295 --> 00:26:29,214
Which I really appreciated.
396
00:26:30,465 --> 00:26:32,467
You know, for good and bad.
397
00:26:35,178 --> 00:26:38,264
Shouldn't you be with your wife?
Doesn't she have need of you?
398
00:26:38,348 --> 00:26:40,266
- Don't play games.
- There are no more games.
399
00:26:40,558 --> 00:26:43,144
Yes, there is, and this is the final one.
400
00:26:44,354 --> 00:26:47,190
You once promised you would
tell me Ragnar's weaknesses.
401
00:26:48,525 --> 00:26:50,693
I don't ever remember you
delivering on that promise.
402
00:26:50,819 --> 00:26:52,821
Well, you wasted all your seed
on a promise.
403
00:26:52,904 --> 00:26:54,364
Tell me now.
404
00:26:58,493 --> 00:27:00,036
Is it not obvious?
405
00:27:01,204 --> 00:27:04,749
Ragnar's weakness is his children.
406
00:27:08,336 --> 00:27:10,213
Then this is what you must do.
407
00:27:11,005 --> 00:27:17,178
You must go to the great hall at sunset
and you must kill Ragnar's young sons.
408
00:27:23,726 --> 00:27:25,103
What do I get in return?
409
00:27:26,187 --> 00:27:27,730
I will marry you.
410
00:27:28,565 --> 00:27:32,777
Gunnhild is my only wife at the moment.
I will take a second.
411
00:27:33,611 --> 00:27:35,196
I will make you a queen.
412
00:27:35,947 --> 00:27:39,742
You will rule again, as you once did.
413
00:27:45,748 --> 00:27:47,417
See, that's pretty good bait.
414
00:27:48,751 --> 00:27:51,504
We know that that's what she wants to do.
415
00:27:52,547 --> 00:27:54,257
She wants to rule again.
416
00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:02,557
Here's the creepy lurker.
417
00:28:09,689 --> 00:28:12,609
Okay, there was some controversy
418
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:16,779
about whether this was a good idea,
to let them fight.
419
00:28:16,946 --> 00:28:20,575
And whether showing a guy
420
00:28:20,658 --> 00:28:23,328
punching a woman...
421
00:28:23,703 --> 00:28:24,871
That's what
Ragnar and Lagertha
422
00:28:24,954 --> 00:28:26,206
have been doing since Season 1.
423
00:28:26,289 --> 00:28:29,125
Actually, that's true.
424
00:28:29,209 --> 00:28:33,171
But this in, kind of, cold blood
instead of being domestic.
425
00:28:33,755 --> 00:28:37,300
That she's... And I did discuss it with Gaia.
426
00:28:37,842 --> 00:28:41,888
And she said, "Don't dare to take
that scene away from me."
427
00:28:45,558 --> 00:28:48,645
She so much, the character, that is,
428
00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:50,605
she so much wants to be a Viking.
429
00:28:50,688 --> 00:28:53,858
She so much wants to belong.
Now she's a free woman.
430
00:28:55,485 --> 00:28:57,570
But she came from another culture.
431
00:28:58,238 --> 00:29:01,491
And it's almost that she tries too hard.
432
00:29:01,658 --> 00:29:05,495
In the end, she does try too hard
to become a Viking.
433
00:29:05,787 --> 00:29:08,164
She wants to be accepted on their terms.
434
00:29:10,166 --> 00:29:13,294
You can imagine that Viking women
were incredibly tough.
435
00:29:14,003 --> 00:29:15,129
Incredibly tough.
436
00:29:22,679 --> 00:29:23,805
Porunn, I'm sorry.
437
00:29:28,351 --> 00:29:29,310
It was an accident.
438
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,481
Porunn, where are you?
439
00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:36,693
- Here's the creepy...- Here's the creepy lurker.
440
00:29:42,282 --> 00:29:45,994
And of course, as we
will later find out,
441
00:29:46,077 --> 00:29:49,581
- he's actually looking after Bjorn.- Yeah, he's protecting him.
442
00:29:55,545 --> 00:30:01,134
So, again, it's exactly the reverse of
what you think it is in the scene.
443
00:30:26,242 --> 00:30:28,786
I love the fact that
this is a real love story as well.
444
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:33,833
In the middle of people being Viking
and brutal and everything that...
445
00:30:34,459 --> 00:30:36,252
It's rather a tender love story.
446
00:30:38,838 --> 00:30:42,008
And I'm sure, while reading the sagas,
447
00:30:42,091 --> 00:30:44,761
- there are love stories in the sagas.
- Of course.
448
00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:46,387
And there always
have been love stories
449
00:30:46,471 --> 00:30:47,930
as long as there have been human beings.
450
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:51,476
So to put one in the middle of here
isn't cheating history at all.
451
00:30:51,601 --> 00:30:55,355
It's reaffirming the humanity
of these people.
452
00:31:07,367 --> 00:31:10,036
And Alexander gets to
take his top off.
453
00:31:11,412 --> 00:31:15,541
Everyone gets their go,
apart from me.
454
00:31:17,210 --> 00:31:19,962
We wouldn't wanna waste
screen time on that now.
455
00:31:23,132 --> 00:31:25,718
- We've got time.- Yeah, yeah.
456
00:31:26,594 --> 00:31:28,805
- I actually did in Season 1.- Okay.
457
00:31:30,765 --> 00:31:32,975
The creepy lurker.
458
00:31:33,351 --> 00:31:35,895
Like a lion.
I love how the makeup is totally...
459
00:31:35,978 --> 00:31:37,438
And of course, I'm looking around.
460
00:31:38,856 --> 00:31:40,024
And the reason why
I'm pulling that weapon is,
461
00:31:40,191 --> 00:31:43,152
'cause he obviously can't defend himself
right then, but...
462
00:31:43,653 --> 00:31:45,071
Put a little scary music on,
463
00:31:45,154 --> 00:31:47,824
you really have something
completely different.
464
00:31:49,325 --> 00:31:50,910
This is the Sword of Kings.
465
00:31:52,245 --> 00:31:56,582
One day, if the gods will it,
this sword will belong to you.
466
00:31:56,666 --> 00:31:59,335
It took weeks and weeks and weeks
to make that sword.
467
00:31:59,419 --> 00:32:01,129
- Did it?
- Yeah, it was made especially for this.
468
00:32:01,212 --> 00:32:03,005
Today we must do
something extraordinary.
469
00:32:03,339 --> 00:32:04,424
Somewhere...
470
00:32:04,882 --> 00:32:07,051
I don't know, Middle Europe, or something.
471
00:32:07,218 --> 00:32:10,346
...which threatens our power and survival.
472
00:32:10,471 --> 00:32:13,558
The gods have spoken and I have listened.
473
00:32:14,851 --> 00:32:17,728
We must cut and kill in such a frenzy
none can survive.
474
00:32:17,812 --> 00:32:21,023
For, believe me,
if even one of that family survives,
475
00:32:21,274 --> 00:32:24,485
then the day will come
when he will rise again and destroy us.
476
00:32:28,281 --> 00:32:31,033
Put yourself in the hands
of the gods, do their will.
477
00:32:31,826 --> 00:32:34,620
And then, for certain,
they will grant you this sword
478
00:32:35,788 --> 00:32:36,789
and a kingdom.
479
00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:47,008
Come.
480
00:32:50,386 --> 00:32:54,515
I love the way he said, "We must
overcome the magic of Ragnar Lothbrok."
481
00:33:04,817 --> 00:33:06,819
I've seen
you praying to your god.
482
00:33:12,241 --> 00:33:14,285
Will you teach me one of your prayers...
483
00:33:14,744 --> 00:33:17,121
Don't do it, Ragnar.
484
00:33:41,562 --> 00:33:44,524
Our Father, who art in heaven.
485
00:33:45,733 --> 00:33:48,402
Our Father, who art in heaven.
486
00:33:49,403 --> 00:33:54,367
So, I don't know how many people
have realized this by now,
487
00:33:54,450 --> 00:34:00,289
or have heard about it,
but, in fact, in this whole episode,
488
00:34:00,957 --> 00:34:04,335
the Lord's Prayer is the only thing
that Ragnar says.
489
00:34:05,419 --> 00:34:09,090
And I think that's so cool.
490
00:34:12,134 --> 00:34:16,138
I don't think you realize,
because he's still in so many scenes.
491
00:34:16,764 --> 00:34:19,433
...as we forgive those
who trespass against us.
492
00:34:20,643 --> 00:34:21,644
Boys, come with me.
493
00:34:21,727 --> 00:34:24,105
Travis and I discussed it
for a long time.
494
00:34:24,188 --> 00:34:27,775
And I thought it was a very, very cool idea.
495
00:34:27,858 --> 00:34:31,028
And I wanted to do it, but for a while,
I felt very insecure
496
00:34:31,112 --> 00:34:33,197
about having the lead character not speak.
497
00:34:33,281 --> 00:34:34,699
- Great call.
- But, uh...
498
00:34:35,992 --> 00:34:38,327
And it sounds like it all...
499
00:34:38,494 --> 00:34:41,080
It's his master plan anyway
that takes place.
500
00:34:41,163 --> 00:34:43,666
And he's so present in that.
501
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,253
And his story is still being told
502
00:34:47,336 --> 00:34:50,298
at this point, when everything is connected
to Ragnar anyways.
503
00:34:50,381 --> 00:34:54,093
So, his story will always be told
by all events anyway.
504
00:34:54,176 --> 00:34:57,263
That's right.
So he's still at the center of it.
505
00:34:58,347 --> 00:35:00,850
- Bring it here, girl.
- Yes, mistress.
506
00:35:01,684 --> 00:35:04,937
Plus I'm just happy that he
stepped aside so I could act a little bit.
507
00:35:20,161 --> 00:35:23,289
Watching this episode,
I was kind of envious of the audience
508
00:35:23,914 --> 00:35:26,751
getting to see it and not knowing
what is going on.
509
00:35:26,834 --> 00:35:29,670
'Cause I obviously knew
what would happen and everything.
510
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:32,840
But...
511
00:35:35,217 --> 00:35:38,429
It must have been a cool experience
to see it for the first time,
512
00:35:38,512 --> 00:35:39,972
not knowing what was going down.
513
00:35:40,765 --> 00:35:44,393
Really keeps them on edge
514
00:35:44,727 --> 00:35:47,647
from the first minute of this episode.
What is going on?
515
00:35:48,773 --> 00:35:54,070
Jessalyn told me that many people,
friends and people, have said,
516
00:35:54,695 --> 00:35:56,489
"I thought you were really going to do it."
517
00:35:56,572 --> 00:35:59,575
She said, "Is that what you think of me?"
518
00:36:00,242 --> 00:36:06,457
And then the kind of final reveal
of all our guys together
519
00:36:06,582 --> 00:36:09,627
- made people feel so good, you know.- No, totally.
520
00:36:12,672 --> 00:36:16,550
Someone showed me on social media
how over the last episodes,
521
00:36:16,634 --> 00:36:21,305
people are like, "No, Floki, I hate you.
Don't you dare betray Ragnar."
522
00:36:22,348 --> 00:36:27,269
And then at the denouement, when it's
revealed that he was always true to him,
523
00:36:27,353 --> 00:36:29,271
they were like, "Yeah, I knew it."
524
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,066
We saw people like,
"Sorry I ever doubted you."
525
00:36:50,292 --> 00:36:51,669
And deliver us from evil.
526
00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:01,846
- Go Athelstan.- Yeah, go Athelstan.
527
00:37:09,854 --> 00:37:13,149
And of course, what's nice
is that there are so many...
528
00:37:13,357 --> 00:37:14,900
There's a collective story.
529
00:37:15,025 --> 00:37:17,486
There's an overarching story,
but within that,
530
00:37:17,570 --> 00:37:22,783
there are so many individual stories
going on and that are all paid off, actually,
531
00:37:23,534 --> 00:37:25,327
one way or another.
532
00:37:48,851 --> 00:37:50,478
- She can look so mean.
- Yeah.
533
00:37:50,728 --> 00:37:52,730
Katheryn, so badass.
534
00:37:59,779 --> 00:38:00,988
Floki, where have you been?
535
00:38:01,572 --> 00:38:03,491
Looking after you, Bjorn.
536
00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:05,659
Great. Great reveal.
537
00:38:05,868 --> 00:38:06,994
Like I promised your father.
538
00:38:13,584 --> 00:38:16,545
And I think that that
still kept the audience wondering
539
00:38:16,629 --> 00:38:18,005
like, "What is going on?"
540
00:38:18,088 --> 00:38:21,133
"Is he..."
'Cause it's not the full reveal yet.
541
00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:23,719
And here's a moment that's...
542
00:38:26,514 --> 00:38:30,184
What we were saying about you can
forgive Ragnar, just about anything,
543
00:38:30,267 --> 00:38:36,649
well, here he's demanded, he's ordered
the death of all his children.
544
00:38:36,816 --> 00:38:38,108
All Horik's children.
545
00:38:43,823 --> 00:38:46,242
But at the time,
that was pragmatism.
546
00:38:46,325 --> 00:38:48,577
Well we know what it means,
'cause Horik could explain to his own son
547
00:38:50,704 --> 00:38:53,374
what the consequences are
of not doing that.
548
00:38:53,457 --> 00:38:54,667
Right.
549
00:38:57,253 --> 00:38:59,255
That's the code, that's the law.
550
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:01,507
That's the understanding.
551
00:39:07,513 --> 00:39:10,015
He did leave
one loose end though.
552
00:39:22,319 --> 00:39:24,196
That's it. That's the end.
553
00:39:45,968 --> 00:39:46,969
Floki,
554
00:39:48,637 --> 00:39:49,763
you have betrayed the gods.
555
00:39:53,934 --> 00:39:56,478
No, King Horik.
556
00:39:58,772 --> 00:40:00,232
I only betrayed you.
557
00:40:04,153 --> 00:40:05,988
I was always true to the gods
558
00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:10,951
and Ragnar.
559
00:40:16,332 --> 00:40:17,333
Ragnar,
560
00:40:19,209 --> 00:40:20,669
if you can find it in your heart,
561
00:40:24,173 --> 00:40:25,549
spare my son.
562
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:36,226
Now, Horik has to die like a Viking.
563
00:40:41,065 --> 00:40:44,193
It's interesting that
everybody has a go at him.
564
00:40:44,652 --> 00:40:47,321
Because that was common.
565
00:40:47,905 --> 00:40:50,741
They would do things like that.
They would decide, before a battle,
566
00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:53,285
they would say, "Yes, I will hit him
and you will hit him.
567
00:40:53,369 --> 00:40:56,163
"And then, that way, we will
all be responsible."
568
00:40:58,123 --> 00:41:01,377
Right, of course.
They'll all be responsible.
569
00:41:22,439 --> 00:41:27,403
They are acknowledging
the truth in their connection as well.
570
00:41:27,736 --> 00:41:29,488
- Yeah.- That's important there.
571
00:41:29,989 --> 00:41:32,116
I remember, I came to you and I said,
572
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,243
"Oh, please let me kill Horik."
573
00:41:34,576 --> 00:41:35,828
You did.
574
00:41:35,911 --> 00:41:38,163
And then
everyone was gonna do with that.
575
00:41:38,247 --> 00:41:39,915
And then I said, "Okay, then I won't."
576
00:41:40,332 --> 00:41:41,333
Yeah, yeah.
577
00:41:41,917 --> 00:41:43,043
I thought it would
be either/or,
578
00:41:43,127 --> 00:41:45,421
but I really like the way
we chose to play it out.
579
00:41:45,504 --> 00:41:47,381
- That I didn't.
- Yeah.
580
00:41:47,464 --> 00:41:49,758
There was a truth
to their connection as well.
581
00:41:50,009 --> 00:41:54,013
And someone asked me, lots of
people asked me why Ragnar is so brutal
582
00:41:54,221 --> 00:41:59,852
in the way he kills Horik.
But Siggy's just given him the knife
583
00:41:59,935 --> 00:42:03,772
that was intended to be used
to kill his own children.
584
00:42:05,274 --> 00:42:08,777
So I'm afraid that, above everything else,
585
00:42:09,111 --> 00:42:12,114
you don't go near Ragnar's children.
586
00:42:22,291 --> 00:42:26,086
I also think,
as we've been talking about it,
587
00:42:26,170 --> 00:42:30,883
that Ragnar reveals himself
to be a total Viking
588
00:42:33,093 --> 00:42:35,554
in this episode, you know,
the way he behaves throughout
589
00:42:35,637 --> 00:42:37,848
and the killing of the children.
590
00:42:42,644 --> 00:42:44,813
He's obviously attracted
intellectually
591
00:42:44,897 --> 00:42:47,191
to Christianity, to Christian ideals.
592
00:42:48,484 --> 00:42:53,197
But he is a profoundly Viking personality.
593
00:42:53,781 --> 00:42:55,657
- Yeah, and pragmatic.
- Yeah.
594
00:43:03,916 --> 00:43:05,250
- And ambitious.- Yes.
595
00:43:10,631 --> 00:43:13,300
- He's ambitious...- I like the fact that
596
00:43:13,383 --> 00:43:16,136
he might be pushing a little too far.
597
00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:17,930
'Cause it stretches...
598
00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:23,102
'Cause it's not interesting to tell a story
about a flawless person who's just...
599
00:43:24,728 --> 00:43:25,896
Go.
600
00:43:32,194 --> 00:43:35,322
He's ambitious for
the things he wants.
601
00:43:36,532 --> 00:43:40,828
But he never wanted to be an earl.
And he never wanted to be a king.
602
00:43:40,911 --> 00:43:44,581
These things have come about
because of other ambitions he has.
603
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:47,835
And the only way he can fulfill those
604
00:43:49,211 --> 00:43:54,883
is to overcome the powers in front of him,
the establishment, whatever.
605
00:43:55,509 --> 00:43:57,052
Whatever it is.
606
00:44:00,430 --> 00:44:02,683
I know that Travis feels that very strongly.
607
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:05,060
That he's never been...
608
00:44:07,646 --> 00:44:10,357
The idea of plunder
doesn't mean very much to him.
609
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,068
The idea of title certainly doesn't.
610
00:44:13,527 --> 00:44:17,156
He's not prepared to dress up
like an earl or a king,
611
00:44:18,991 --> 00:44:21,160
all those superficial things.
612
00:44:21,243 --> 00:44:25,247
But he has other aspirations.
His deeper passions.
613
00:44:40,637 --> 00:44:42,514
I think this is a great last shot.
614
00:44:47,311 --> 00:44:52,107
It seems so simple, it took so long to
decide what the last shot was going to be.
615
00:44:56,236 --> 00:44:57,237
It's great.
616
00:44:58,447 --> 00:45:01,033
And I remember there was one draft
617
00:45:01,116 --> 00:45:02,826
where people
are acknowledging him as a king.
618
00:45:02,910 --> 00:45:06,288
"Hail, King Ragnar" and all.
This just says it all.
619
00:45:10,626 --> 00:45:15,047
Thank you for
watching and listening
620
00:45:15,130 --> 00:45:21,803
to us talking about the season-ending,
Episode 10 of Season 2 of Vikings.
621
00:45:22,638 --> 00:45:23,639
Thank you.
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