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- And distinct honor
to introduce the
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44th President of the
United States of America,
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Barack H. Obama.
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(cheering)
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- Thank you.
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(crowd chanting)
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Thank you so much.
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Vice President Biden,
Mr. Chief Justice,
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members of the United
States Congress,
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distinguished guests,
and fellow citizens.
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Each time we gather to
inaugurate a president,
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we bear witness to
the enduring strength
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of our Constitution.
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(guitar music)
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- [Voiceover] I think
there's a lot happening here
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in front of our very eyes that
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happens to be very positive.
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And many people are
seeing that themselves.
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And the opportunity here,
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we are in the midst
here of a profoundly
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monumental opportunity.
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That nobody could
have predicted,
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that everybody,
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I can remember people
calling year rush,
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what do you think it
is that's going to be
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the tipping point?
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There has to be a tipping point,
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at some point people
are going to stand up
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and say, I've had it, I'm not
putting up with it anymore.
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I had no idea, I said.
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It's unpredictable, who knows
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what the future's going to be.
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Who knows where the bottom is?
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Who knows where the event that
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causes people to
stand up and say,
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screw this, no more,
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and reject all this
stuff from the left.
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We could be witnessing it.
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Time will tell.
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(rally shouting)
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- [Crowd] You believe!
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Slavery is ideal!
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Women are inferior!
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Gays deserve!
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We reject homophobia!
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We respect free speech!
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This is hate speech!
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Get off our campus!
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- The charges.
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You're racist,
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- [Crowd] Racist, sexist!
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- You're a sexist.
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- [Crowd] Douglas
Wilson go away!
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- And you're anti gay.
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(cheering)
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Racist, sexist, anti gay,
Douglas Wilson go away.
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- Right.
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And it's stated in
such a way as to rhyme.
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(cheering)
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- Okay, I just want
to kind of reiterate
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that the idea behind
this protest is peace,
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if you guys want to get violent,
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that's on you, you will probably
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get taken out by the police.
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Let's make an example
of this lovely
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sign that just showed up.
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We want to stand on the
side of love, not war.
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Kind of cliche, but let's
kind of stay peaceful.
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Thank you.
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- The story behind me winding up
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at Bloomington is a very
straightforward one.
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I've got some friends
there who have,
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a pastor of a
church who invited,
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their women's group
invited my wife Nancy
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to speak at a lady's
retreat that their
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church was sponsoring,
and Nancy was
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happy to go, but
one of the things
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Nancy and I do is we don't,
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Nancy doesn't go often
do events by herself,
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and so I was tagging
along, my friend thought,
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well, hey, as long
as Doug's here,
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let's do an event.
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So they put together an
event for me to speak
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for college outreach
sort of thing.
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The topic was sexual by design.
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And so that was
advertised, and then
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the intoleristas,
as I call them,
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got wind of it and they started
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to mobilize and, in
order to oppose it,
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and it turned into what I
call a sociological event.
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- [Crowd] Sing in the rain,
just sing in the rain.
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What glorious feeling.
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Arms up!
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Thumbs up!
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- We're at a new time
in terms of student
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activism, we have
groups organizing,
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we have individuals
active at organizing,
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and we have social
media, which of course
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gives people all
sorts of opportunities
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to get things
together, so it's going
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to be a three ring
circus tonight.
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- Quite honestly,
my initial reaction
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was, I hope nobody goes to this.
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We don't need any more
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so called Christian spokespeople
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for hate, and that's, everything
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I'm reading about
him suggests to me
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that he's doing all this
in the name of religion,
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and he's here at the
Kinsey Institute,
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or the campus where
the Kinsey Institute,
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dip on Kinsey.
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- Kinsey was the original
American dirty bird.
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He put a, quote on
quote, scientific
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treatment of sex slash
perversion on the map,
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he's the one to
whom we are indebted
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for the apparently
immortal figure that
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10 percent of the
human population
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is homosexual, for example.
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Kinsey was a scientist,
but whose specialty was
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wasps, and he got
into human sexuality
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and published,
published the results of
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his finding, quote
on quote findings,
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you have to use quotation
marks around everything,
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his findings.
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A lot of his data
was coming from
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prisoner, you
know, prisoners and
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people who were not
a representative
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sampling of what was
actually going on
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out in the population.
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So what he did is
he gave a scientific
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veneer to the acceptability
of sexual perversion.
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(shouting)
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- Who Kinsey was,
and what he taught,
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did you feel that what
you experienced at IU,
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was indicative, was downstream
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of something that you
feel he helped create?
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- Absolutely.
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He helped create the
America in which that
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behavior that was on
display in Bloomington,
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was even a possibility.
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Without the work of
people like Kinsey,
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that set of behaviors
was an impossibility.
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- And how would you define
that set of behaviors?
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- Lawless, antinomian, the
idea that if it feels good,
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as countless songs
have told us to do,
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do it, if it feels good do it.
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I am not to allow any authority
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from outside me
tell me that this
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particular sexual
pleasure is wrong,
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or wrong headed, or
demented, or perverted.
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If it pleases you,
if you like it,
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if you're attracted to
it, then nothing can be
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said against it
from outside your
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set of nerves, your set
of sexual responses.
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- He has a right to
be here, and I'm very
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hopeful that those
who are responding
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will do so respectfully,
but I think he needs
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to know there are many people,
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including many people who
claim to be Christian,
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who feel he's very
misguided in his teachings.
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So, this is my
shirt for tonight.
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We happen to have
a t-shirt display
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happening here right
now, and I thought
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I would wear this.
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In part because I think
Jesus had a sense of humor
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and I think if he
were with us tonight,
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he'd probably be walking
among the students
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who are upset about someone who
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seems so self righteous
and so sure of
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himself and his
theories, so I'd like
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to take a stand
from my perspective
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on what I think Jesus
would be saying about that.
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- [Voiceover] So you, are
you like the one putting
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this whole thing together?
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- I hesitate to
take credit for it
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because I'm so humble.
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- [Voiceover] I don't
really know if there's
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anything out there.
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- If you want to call
me the leader, you can.
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- Ignore religion
for the most part.
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- I mean, if
religion's your thing,
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cool, skateboarding's my thing.
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- I joke around and I say, like,
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I'm a gay man at heart.
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- I have a life,
and I am born to
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live our my life
however I see fit,
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and then I'm going to die.
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- It doesn't make sense
to me for people to hate.
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- The lifestyle that
fundamental Christianity
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wants you to lead, in order to
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achieve Heaven, is (beep).
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- I want someone
to like chuck me
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in a river and be
like, this is what
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a body looks like after
three weeks in a river.
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I think that sounds
like, I think that
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sounds like super fun.
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- You can bet that
you're not going to Hell,
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and live your life for fun,
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or you can bet that
you're going to
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Heaven afterwards and
live a terrible life
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and never have sex and
never anything fun.
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- What do you think
they mean by racist,
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how do you think
they have defined
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the term racist?
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- A racist is anyone
who is winning
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an argument with a liberal.
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- Now, what does this mean
in a secularist society?
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What does this mean in
a secularist society?
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What does it mean for the
materialistic atheist,
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or for New Age
neopagans, and so forth?
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- [Man in crowd] Are
you (beep) serious?
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(applause)
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- I have been all day.
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So, both of these groups,
both of these groups
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believe that ultimate
reality, ultimate reality,
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is infinitely malleable.
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Ultimate reality is
infinitely malleable.
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The materialist believes
that matter is eternal,
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and that given enough
time, anything can turn
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into anything else.
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In the beginning was an enormous
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amount of hydrogen,
with lots of potential.
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That's what evolution
is all about.
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You have this Big Bang, you have
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an enormous amount of hydrogen,
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and this hydrogen
can turn, over time,
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into sea lions and
little yellow canaries
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and people and
supernovas and so on.
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Anything can morph
into anything else.
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- [Woman in crowd] I
hope my son is gay!
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(cheering)
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- And I hope that
Jesus forgives him
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just like he does
the rest of us.
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Okay, I need to ask you
to bear with me here,
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this is a university,
and I'm laying out
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the premises of what used
to be called an argument.
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(laughter)
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What I'm saying is
premise number one,
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is you become like
what you worship,
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you reflect what you
think ultimate reality is.
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- Doug's got to be brave to
go into that kind of thing.
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I mean like I,
one of the things,
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one of the reasons I don't
like to speak in front
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of college, most
college audiences
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is because they're really
not going to think,
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they're not going to,
you know, it's like,
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help me out here.
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Just think through it.
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I mean, there are
people who will,
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but it's all hyped up
emotion, and you just kinda,
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and when you're talking on
topics say like Doug is,
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or like the topics
that I'm talking about,
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they can get emotional.
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Well, there's two responses.
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There's the really emotional,
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just everyone comes unglued,
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or there's the I don't care,
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I mean like, whatever.
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And both of those
are hard to deal with
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when you're in an
audience, you know
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when you're in a speaking
situation like that.
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So, I think it's
frustrating, you just can't
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have dialogue, you can't
use reason, you can't.
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- Alright, so people today
believe that it's possible,
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it's entirely up to you, to
reinvent yourself if you want.
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I want to argue that
sexual boundaries,
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sexual definitions, follow
the same kind of pattern.
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The revolt of our current
generation against the
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Triune God, who made
Heaven and Earth,
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is a revolt in the direction
of a pagan polytheism.
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Multiple gods, multiple
voices, multiple laws,
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and a general clamor out
of which it's possible
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to select whatever suits
the individual at the time.
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The political name
for this is pluralism,
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diversity is another name
for it, the philosophical
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and cultural name for
it is postmodernism.
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Radically relativistic,
radically relativistic,
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whether it means to be or not,
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if has fallen off a cliff
and cannot be prevented
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from eventually hitting
the craggy rocks below,
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which I would say are
nihilism and despair.
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But while falling, a number
of people, while falling,
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a number of people have
the temporary sensation of
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absolute freedom,
and they seek to use
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that freedom in the
creation of pursuit of
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various sexualities,
as part of the freedom
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that they think they have.
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That is why we are
dealing with metrosexuals,
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sodomites, catamites, lesbians.
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(crowd shouting)
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Virtual perverts.
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(cheering)
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We weren't taking a vote.
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- [Man in crowd] Shut up!
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- Bloomington was probably
the most aggressive
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I've seen one of
these things being,
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and really one of the
most aggressive and
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most, I mean, I don't
think we ever had
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a security planned
for Doug before.
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I could be wrong,
but I don't think we
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ever had a security
planned for him.
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So there literally
was fear, or concern
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that this could actually
turn physically hostile.
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- [Man in crowd]
(beep) (beep) shut up!
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- I got video that, during
the event or that night.
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- [Man in crowd] Shut up!
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I don't care what he's saying,
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he's a (beep) racist,
sexist, homophobic,
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misogynist (beep).
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- You know, people
getting arrested.
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- Get your (beep) off me.
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- You know, the
aggressive verbal,
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you know, attack.
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- Don't touch me.
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Hey, don't touch me.
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- That happened at the event.
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I mean, that stuff
was ramped up levels
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from what we'd seen before.
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- You can't have it both ways.
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You can't have absolute freedom
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and then say, no no,
wait, we can't do that.
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So, what is going to
happen, is what will push
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to the front of the line, is,
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(applause)
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pederasty, pedophilia,
bestiality.
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(laughter)
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If you believe, if
you believe that,
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as Alfred Kinsey did,
that children are sexual
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from birth and express
that sexuality,
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if you believe that, what
you believe about ultimate
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reality is going to
drive your behavior.
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So what happens is this.
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(cheering)
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- [Man in crowd] Are you
cheering for pedophilia?
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- Okay.
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Q and A, Q and A is coming
up, Q and A is coming up.
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One of the things that
we have to recognize,
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let's just give an
example, people say,
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in these culture war debates,
people will say something
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like, people on my side
of the line will say,
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what about polygamy,
oh no, we're not
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talking about that,
we're not demanding it,
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everybody, it's just
two people, you know.
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Have you noticed that
limiting marriage rights
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to two is hatred
against bisexuals?
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(crowd murmuring)
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Are bisexuals, are
bisexuals allowed
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to express their sexuality
through marriage?
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- [Crowd] Yes.
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- [Doug] Through marriage.
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So there has to
be at least three.
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- No!
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(crowd murmuring)
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(cheering)
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- It's intense, just
the way it's pure rage,
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it feels like a
large temper tantrum.
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It's not like you're
sitting down having
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reasoned discourse,
and it's an attempt to,
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it's really just an
assertion of raw power.
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You know, but the
thing it's weird
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is the way it's an
assertion by raw power,
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by claiming victim-hood.
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Like the thing that I
remember, that I just
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still haven't got
my mind around,
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was the way it looked to me like
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the people in the
crowd came with
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pre-painted bruises and stuff.
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You know, so they came makeupped
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to have been victims.
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- Particularly what
we're doing right now
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is painting our faces
as if we've been hit
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or bullied, or physically
harassed in some way,
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to show that words
have consequences.
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- But as a way to
just plain shut down
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what was going on.
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And so there's this
weird ability to
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manipulate victim-hood
into a fist.
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And it's just crazy.
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- [Man in crowd]
(beep) (beep) shut up!
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I don't (beep) what he's saying.
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He's a (beep) idiot.
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Misogynistic (beep).
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Get your (beep) off me.
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Don't touch me.
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Hey!
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- [Man in crowd] They're
attacking queers!
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(shouting)
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- [Crowd] Off our campus!
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Anyone who agrees!
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Join us now!
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You will leave!
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Slavery is ideal!
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Women are inferior!
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Gays deserve!
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- [Man] Are you done yet?
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- [Crowd] We're
against misogyny!
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We reject homophobia!
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- [Man] We get it.
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Can you please sit down?
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Officer.
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Whoever the ringleader is.
402
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- [Crowd] A safe
place for everyone.
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00:23:26,333 --> 00:23:29,633
We respect free speech.
404
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This is hate speech.
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00:23:32,867 --> 00:23:36,200
- We want to stand on the
side of love, not war.
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(drums)
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00:24:14,667 --> 00:24:19,667
(chanting)
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00:24:38,567 --> 00:24:40,967
- Why don't you live
what you say you believe?
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00:24:40,967 --> 00:24:42,933
And I would say to all
the diversity mongers,
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00:24:42,933 --> 00:24:45,433
why don't you live what
you say you believe?
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00:24:45,433 --> 00:24:47,167
Why don't you.
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00:24:48,833 --> 00:24:53,233
You know, diversity for
everybody who thinks like me.
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00:24:53,233 --> 00:24:56,167
(cheering)
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00:24:56,167 --> 00:24:57,500
You need to wake up.
415
00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:59,033
You're not committed
to free speech.
416
00:24:59,033 --> 00:25:00,367
You're not committed
to diversity,
417
00:25:00,367 --> 00:25:02,467
you're not committed to
all the things you say
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00:25:02,467 --> 00:25:03,700
that you're committed to.
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00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:05,133
- [Woman in crowd] Raise
your fucking hand and
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00:25:05,133 --> 00:25:08,500
fucking right fist,
police are fucking shit.
421
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:10,500
- This is not the first time
I've run into the tolerance
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00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:11,900
buzz zone.
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00:25:15,967 --> 00:25:18,667
If you want diversity,
then show me
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how committed you are to it.
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00:25:24,067 --> 00:25:25,433
- [Crowd] We're still queer!
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00:25:25,433 --> 00:25:26,933
We're still queer.
427
00:25:26,933 --> 00:25:28,367
We're still queer.
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00:25:28,367 --> 00:25:33,233
(chanting)
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- [Voiceover] You know,
several different designs,
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until we got the
perfect cake that
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00:25:57,367 --> 00:26:00,200
just matched them, and
sometimes it would take
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00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,367
two hours of sitting
in a cake tasting,
433
00:26:03,367 --> 00:26:07,767
and if they chose
me to do their cake.
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00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,867
(heavy breathing)
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00:26:13,867 --> 00:26:16,167
I'm sorry.
436
00:26:16,167 --> 00:26:19,133
(applause)
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00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,800
I would just feel so honored
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to be able to be a part
of such an amazing,
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special day.
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00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:33,700
- It's not like,
you know, people go,
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I shouldn't have to bake
a cake for two homos,
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00:26:35,633 --> 00:26:38,400
it's not like you sit in
your business that makes
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cakes all day long,
it's not like you're
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sitting on your couch
watching the Dodger game,
445
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and somebody from the
government walks in,
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bake a cake for those queers.
447
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,100
(laughter)
448
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,800
That's not what's happening.
449
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,133
What, I'm (beep) watching TV,
450
00:26:50,133 --> 00:26:51,900
I gotta bake a cake?
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That's not what's happening.
452
00:26:54,667 --> 00:26:56,533
- [Voiceover] Feminism
has been around,
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you know, my whole life.
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So it's not like, there's
probably any one thing,
455
00:27:01,833 --> 00:27:04,467
it was probably just
as I became aware of,
456
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what women were trying
to get away with.
457
00:27:08,067 --> 00:27:09,633
- It's a man's world,
and they can kind of
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say what they want
and do what they want,
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00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,233
and we saw that.
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00:27:12,233 --> 00:27:13,467
- And that what
it comes down to?
461
00:27:13,467 --> 00:27:14,400
- Everybody's got
a point of view,
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everybody's got an opinion.
463
00:27:15,933 --> 00:27:17,600
- I put all this
tender love and care
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into my wedding
cakes, now they want
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me to give it to lesbians.
466
00:27:21,867 --> 00:27:24,733
- I thought that tolerance,
which was the mantra.
467
00:27:24,733 --> 00:27:26,300
- Alec Baldwin has
been getting some grief
468
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:30,433
from Anderson Cooper and
from Andrew Sullivan.
469
00:27:30,433 --> 00:27:31,867
- We can tolerate
their point of view,
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they can tolerate
my point of view,
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every American should
be able to tolerate
472
00:27:34,967 --> 00:27:36,067
anybody's point of view,
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00:27:36,067 --> 00:27:37,333
and we shouldn't butt heads.
474
00:27:37,333 --> 00:27:38,900
- Why did Joakim Noah
get fined 50 thousand
475
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:40,967
when Koby, for saying
the same thing,
476
00:27:40,967 --> 00:27:42,633
was fined 100 thousand?
477
00:27:42,633 --> 00:27:44,733
- Well, in this
situation that apparently
478
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is not the case.
479
00:27:45,933 --> 00:27:48,100
- Yeah, I am woman,
hear me roar,
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kind of we're tough.
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- [Voiceover] It showed
scantily clad women,
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earlier this morning
he apologized
483
00:27:53,867 --> 00:27:55,133
and actually broke down.
484
00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:59,900
- Now, feminists are
kind of big crybabies.
485
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,867
- I made a big
mistake, and I offended
486
00:28:01,867 --> 00:28:06,333
many people, and I'm
very sorry about this.
487
00:28:07,733 --> 00:28:12,700
(heavy breathing)
488
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,567
- We heard about
the photographer,
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and then the other
baker in Colorado.
490
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000
- I didn't know, I
didn't know that same sex
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attraction, or sexual
orientation was a
protected class.
492
00:28:26,667 --> 00:28:29,367
- Paula said in court
that she has regularly
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used the N word, and
that she admitted to her
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desire to throw a
pre-Civil War era
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plantation wedding.
496
00:28:38,967 --> 00:28:40,200
What?
497
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,167
- I thought I was well
within my rights to say,
498
00:28:42,167 --> 00:28:44,200
no thank you, I don't
want that order.
499
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,467
- Playing the victim
card all the time.
500
00:28:46,467 --> 00:28:49,933
- You know, I didn't mean
it in a homophobic way,
501
00:28:49,933 --> 00:28:54,933
and I think that, sorry,
502
00:28:56,867 --> 00:28:58,667
I think that.
503
00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:00,800
- I did not mean
to waste your time,
504
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,367
I can't, in good conscious,
505
00:29:02,367 --> 00:29:04,733
make a same sex wedding cake.
506
00:29:04,733 --> 00:29:06,467
- That doesn't matter, you know,
507
00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:07,800
how you mean things
doesn't matter,
508
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,633
words have weight in meaning.
509
00:29:09,633 --> 00:29:10,567
- You know.
510
00:29:10,567 --> 00:29:11,500
- And what was their response?
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- Got up and walked out.
512
00:29:13,367 --> 00:29:14,367
- Didn't say anything to you?
513
00:29:14,367 --> 00:29:15,600
- Didn't say a word to me.
514
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,300
- Oh, it's easier
to be a victim,
515
00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:19,167
and it's easier to
flop for the camera
516
00:29:19,167 --> 00:29:22,667
and you know, claim to
have sprained your ankle.
517
00:29:22,667 --> 00:29:24,667
- The word I chose
was grotesque,
518
00:29:24,667 --> 00:29:29,667
and you know, no one
deserves to say or hear
519
00:29:30,533 --> 00:29:32,133
words like that.
520
00:29:32,133 --> 00:29:35,367
- I think it takes less
brains for one thing.
521
00:29:35,367 --> 00:29:37,067
You don't have to
make an argument.
522
00:29:37,067 --> 00:29:39,567
You just have to say
you hurt my feelings.
523
00:29:39,567 --> 00:29:41,533
- Well, the mom came back in.
524
00:29:41,533 --> 00:29:42,833
- She came back in
at a later time,
525
00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:44,967
of course the mom
is heterosexual.
526
00:29:44,967 --> 00:29:46,900
- There are all kinds of
different people in the world.
527
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:48,367
That's what makes
the world special.
528
00:29:48,367 --> 00:29:51,167
- She tried to, she
said that she was raised
529
00:29:51,167 --> 00:29:53,367
as a Southern Baptist,
and once thought
530
00:29:53,367 --> 00:29:55,533
the way I did, but
her truth had changed.
531
00:29:55,533 --> 00:29:57,767
- So whether someone
is different than you.
532
00:29:57,767 --> 00:29:59,133
- And race.
533
00:29:59,133 --> 00:30:00,400
- Ethnicity.
534
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,633
- Political beliefs.
535
00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:02,733
- Religion.
536
00:30:02,733 --> 00:30:04,500
- Or sexual orientation.
537
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:05,567
- She's evolved.
538
00:30:05,567 --> 00:30:06,367
- Yeah.
539
00:30:06,367 --> 00:30:07,167
Her truth has evolved.
540
00:30:07,167 --> 00:30:08,300
- Words can be hurtful.
541
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:10,200
Replace them with understanding,
542
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,833
compassion, and acceptance.
543
00:30:12,833 --> 00:30:14,233
- Not unlike the president.
544
00:30:14,233 --> 00:30:16,100
- Right, exactly.
545
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,733
- The swooning couch culture,
546
00:30:18,733 --> 00:30:22,333
like feminists who are (laughs).
547
00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:24,400
They like to have all
the tough rhetoric,
548
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,400
but then immediately resort
to the fainting couch,
549
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,967
the like Victorian thing,
is that what you mean?
550
00:30:30,967 --> 00:30:33,367
- I've failed.
551
00:30:33,367 --> 00:30:35,367
I didn't just go below the bar,
552
00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:36,533
went way below the bar.
553
00:30:36,533 --> 00:30:37,833
You know, I made a mistake.
554
00:30:37,833 --> 00:30:40,267
- When did you know
you were in trouble?
555
00:30:40,267 --> 00:30:43,967
- When we got the,
heard about the Bureau
556
00:30:43,967 --> 00:30:45,233
in labor and industries.
557
00:30:45,233 --> 00:30:48,433
- I'd like to
apologize to the fans,
558
00:30:48,433 --> 00:30:50,433
for the Blue Jays, the
Blue Jays organization.
559
00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:51,633
- Yeah.
560
00:30:51,633 --> 00:30:52,900
Well once, okay,
let's put it this way.
561
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:54,400
When the commissioner
of the Bureau comes
562
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,500
out and says, folks have a right
to their religious beliefs,
563
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:59,667
but they don't have a
right to break the law.
564
00:30:59,667 --> 00:31:01,500
- He said, today,
as a young man,
565
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:03,800
I didn't understand the
power of certain words
566
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,167
and how they could hurt.
567
00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:07,100
- Well, he's got
his mind made up.
568
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,333
He never even
heard the case yet,
569
00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:10,600
according Charlie
Burr, the spokesman for
570
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,733
the Bureau of
Labor and Industry,
571
00:31:12,733 --> 00:31:15,200
they hadn't even
contacted these girls yet.
572
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,467
Which was a lie.
573
00:31:16,467 --> 00:31:18,100
They were doing
the intake process
574
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,133
as they were saying this.
575
00:31:20,133 --> 00:31:22,633
- And it was also
said by Brad Avakian
576
00:31:22,633 --> 00:31:25,400
That it's not,
how did he say it,
577
00:31:26,567 --> 00:31:28,200
- The goal is not to
shut a business down,
578
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,767
but to rehabilitate
them so they can operate
579
00:31:30,767 --> 00:31:32,867
within the confines of the law.
580
00:31:32,867 --> 00:31:34,233
- What?
581
00:31:34,233 --> 00:31:35,367
- Yes!
582
00:31:35,367 --> 00:31:36,833
- This is an
Orwellian nightmare.
583
00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:41,767
Orwell pointed out in
his essay on the politics
584
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:47,467
of English, how basically
language is full
585
00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:53,867
of political
ramifications, and people
586
00:31:53,867 --> 00:31:56,400
think that it's
neutral, and that when
587
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,733
someone says, oh,
you hurt my feelings,
588
00:31:57,733 --> 00:31:59,433
that they just take
it at face value.
589
00:31:59,433 --> 00:32:02,867
But no, there is an agenda here.
590
00:32:02,867 --> 00:32:04,367
- You asked me once,
Winston, what was
591
00:32:04,367 --> 00:32:06,533
in room 101.
592
00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:09,967
- You know, I've been a
supporter of the LBGTQ
593
00:32:09,967 --> 00:32:13,200
community my entire
life, and I completely
594
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,033
let the members
of that community
595
00:32:15,033 --> 00:32:16,567
and everybody else
down when I used
596
00:32:16,567 --> 00:32:18,067
a word like that, this weekend.
597
00:32:18,067 --> 00:32:19,667
- It was there for
you to flop over on
598
00:32:19,667 --> 00:32:22,200
when your corset got
tightened too tight,
599
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,500
and so it was there for
you as you passed out.
600
00:32:27,367 --> 00:32:30,500
There you would go, elegantly
onto this swooning couch.
601
00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:33,433
- They are trying to
get us to go somewhere.
602
00:32:33,433 --> 00:32:38,433
- Thing that is in room 101 is
the worst thing in the world.
603
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,000
- And if I'm not prepared
to go where they're
604
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,300
trying to get me to
go, I'm not prepared to
605
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:45,767
let them near the
rudder, I'm not prepared
606
00:32:45,767 --> 00:32:50,767
to let them have control
over what is acceptable
607
00:32:51,533 --> 00:32:52,767
discourse or not.
608
00:32:52,767 --> 00:32:57,767
- And my heart's
broken, and I genuinely
609
00:32:58,967 --> 00:33:00,767
am deeply sorry to
anyone who's ever
610
00:33:00,767 --> 00:33:03,167
been affected by that
term in their life.
611
00:33:03,167 --> 00:33:07,000
- And, but it was
very in this sort of,
612
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,767
you know, 18th, 19th
century, swooning and
613
00:33:09,767 --> 00:33:12,200
being overcome by
your feelings was,
614
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,633
you know, kind of hip.
615
00:33:13,633 --> 00:33:16,333
- It's this, oh oh,
that's triggering.
616
00:33:16,333 --> 00:33:18,900
Well, grow up.
617
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,700
- And I don't deserve or
expect your forgiveness.
618
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:25,900
- All societies have
ultimate values.
619
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:28,767
- Goes beyond fear
of pain or death.
620
00:33:29,933 --> 00:33:31,467
It is unendurable.
621
00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:33,700
It varies from
individual to individual.
622
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,833
- Every society in
the history of man
623
00:33:36,833 --> 00:33:41,000
has had an integration
point, and people
624
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,100
are not allowed to
blaspheme against that
625
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,267
central integration point.
626
00:33:46,267 --> 00:33:48,067
- It is rats.
627
00:33:48,067 --> 00:33:49,233
- No!
628
00:33:51,367 --> 00:33:53,300
- And so you'd have
your smelling salts
629
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:56,600
and you know,
everything, and I think
630
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,033
that's what the kind of woman as
631
00:33:59,033 --> 00:34:02,067
this little tender
China doll thing,
632
00:34:02,067 --> 00:34:03,267
is what the feminists
are trying to get
633
00:34:03,267 --> 00:34:05,000
away from, so it's
really hilarious to me
634
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,700
that now we're doing the
big you hurt my feelings.
635
00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:13,367
- So in Saudi Arabia,
you can't go down
636
00:34:13,367 --> 00:34:18,367
to downtown mecca and
blaspheme Mohammed or Allah.
637
00:34:18,967 --> 00:34:21,167
(rats squeaking)
638
00:34:21,167 --> 00:34:24,233
- Please, what do
you want me to do?
639
00:34:24,233 --> 00:34:26,133
- You'll do what is right.
640
00:34:26,133 --> 00:34:31,067
- But what I ask is that at
home, if you're watching this,
641
00:34:31,067 --> 00:34:33,167
and you're a young
person especially.
642
00:34:33,167 --> 00:34:35,600
- You're making me
feel bad, you know,
643
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,100
it seems like all they
need is the smelling salts
644
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:39,667
to complete the picture.
645
00:34:43,700 --> 00:34:46,800
- How can I do it if I
don't know what it is?
646
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,800
- In the Proletarians,
they will attack a baby,
647
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,767
and within five minutes
strip it to the bone.
648
00:34:54,767 --> 00:34:56,400
- In medieval
Christendom you could get
649
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,333
arrested for blaspheming Jesus.
650
00:35:03,733 --> 00:35:05,667
- If someone says
something that hurts you,
651
00:35:05,667 --> 00:35:07,333
or angers you.
652
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:09,767
- Rehabilitate.
653
00:35:09,767 --> 00:35:13,567
- So you guys are sick,
you've got a condition.
654
00:35:13,567 --> 00:35:14,800
- [Woman] I guess.
655
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,733
- [Interviewer] And
it needs to be fixed.
656
00:35:16,733 --> 00:35:20,500
- Today, I could go downtown
in any major American
657
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:23,500
city and get myself
arrested on the basis
658
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,300
of nothing more than
what I was saying.
659
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:29,567
- Use me as an example
of what not to do.
660
00:35:29,567 --> 00:35:32,667
- Needs to be fixed,
needs to be rehabilitated.
661
00:35:32,667 --> 00:35:35,333
You, whatever is going on here,
662
00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:37,600
needs to be rehabbed.
663
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,867
- This starving brutes will
shoot at you like bullets.
664
00:35:41,133 --> 00:35:43,333
Have you ever seen
a rat eat from here?
665
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:49,800
They will leap on to your face
666
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,467
and bore straight into it.
667
00:35:52,567 --> 00:35:55,333
- I could begin
talking about certain
668
00:35:55,333 --> 00:35:58,533
sacred cows, in
our political life,
669
00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:00,567
and I could get myself arrested.
670
00:36:00,567 --> 00:36:03,300
They wouldn't call
it blasphemy laws,
671
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,867
they wouldn't arrest
me for blasphemy,
672
00:36:06,867 --> 00:36:09,367
they would arrest
me for hate speech.
673
00:36:09,367 --> 00:36:12,433
- And don't respond with hatred.
674
00:36:12,433 --> 00:36:16,433
- And if they're
successful, in getting
675
00:36:16,433 --> 00:36:18,133
you fixed.
676
00:36:18,133 --> 00:36:20,500
- Theocracies are inescapable.
677
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:22,967
- Because you're just adding
more ugliness to the world.
678
00:36:22,967 --> 00:36:25,100
- What's that
going to look like?
679
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,133
What do they want
from your to be fixed?
680
00:36:27,133 --> 00:36:30,100
- What do you want?
681
00:36:33,067 --> 00:36:35,300
- We're a democracy,
and so demos is the
682
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:37,967
Greek word for people,
the people are the god
683
00:36:37,967 --> 00:36:39,900
in the system, and there
are certain protected
684
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:43,433
classes of people
whom I must not touch.
685
00:36:45,367 --> 00:36:48,400
- Helping somebody
celebrate same sex marriage.
686
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,067
- I may not say
anything about them.
687
00:36:53,067 --> 00:36:54,967
And if I say
something about them,
688
00:36:54,967 --> 00:36:56,633
they're going to haul me in.
689
00:36:56,633 --> 00:36:58,500
- And again, I just.
690
00:36:58,500 --> 00:36:59,767
- What they're going
to do is they're
691
00:36:59,767 --> 00:37:02,633
going to haul me in
for reorientation.
692
00:37:02,633 --> 00:37:04,633
(screaming)
693
00:37:06,267 --> 00:37:09,833
They want to put me through
sensitivity training.
694
00:37:09,833 --> 00:37:11,600
What they want to
do is they want to
695
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,633
teach me the error
of my ways, and the
696
00:37:13,633 --> 00:37:15,800
fundamental thing
they want me to admit
697
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,067
is their right to be
treating me this way,
698
00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:19,867
they want me to admit
they have the right
699
00:37:19,867 --> 00:37:22,433
to haul me in, and that
I must become my own
700
00:37:22,433 --> 00:37:25,933
accuser, and I must
say that I'm sorry.
701
00:37:25,933 --> 00:37:26,600
- I'm sorry.
702
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,133
- I apologize.
703
00:37:27,133 --> 00:37:27,900
- Sorry.
704
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:29,200
- I apologize.
705
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,700
- I'm just, I'm so sorry.
706
00:37:34,367 --> 00:37:37,067
- If you go back to the
Stalinist show trials,
707
00:37:37,067 --> 00:37:41,300
there is this inexorable,
tyrannical demand
708
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,667
that the victim accuse himself.
709
00:37:43,667 --> 00:37:45,633
He must accuse himself.
710
00:37:45,633 --> 00:37:47,400
That's the way they
do it in North Korea,
711
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,900
that's the way Stalin
did it, and that's
712
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:52,167
the way we're going
down that road.
713
00:37:52,167 --> 00:37:53,567
So they're going
to want me to say
714
00:37:53,567 --> 00:37:55,067
that I'm sorry, and
they're going to want me to
715
00:37:55,067 --> 00:37:57,400
love Big Brother,
they're going to want
716
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,100
me to say Big Brother has
my best interests in mind,
717
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:04,567
and I've got to
embrace the system.
718
00:38:04,567 --> 00:38:06,900
That's what they want from me.
719
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:10,533
Because I'm not a progressive,
secularist leftist.
720
00:38:10,533 --> 00:38:15,333
Where they want to go,
I am refusing to go.
721
00:38:15,333 --> 00:38:17,067
I'm saying, I'm sorry,
I'm not going to
722
00:38:17,067 --> 00:38:18,567
let you punch my
ticket, I'm not going to
723
00:38:18,567 --> 00:38:20,833
get on your train, I'm
not going to cooperate
724
00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:23,033
with anything you're
doing, because I know
725
00:38:23,033 --> 00:38:25,167
what you're doing.
726
00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:28,067
- That's the fix.
727
00:38:28,067 --> 00:38:29,433
That's what they
want, it was for us
728
00:38:29,433 --> 00:38:33,033
to celebrate something
the Bible calls sin.
729
00:38:34,233 --> 00:38:36,500
- You know, I had
worked for so many
730
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:40,400
years building a reputation
with a lot of my vendors.
731
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,333
When I lost my vendors
because a group
732
00:38:43,333 --> 00:38:46,933
of people basically
harassed them all,
733
00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:48,767
to the point where
they took me down
734
00:38:48,767 --> 00:38:52,633
from their websites,
they emailed us,
735
00:38:52,633 --> 00:38:54,233
said we're no longer, you know,
736
00:38:54,233 --> 00:38:56,300
we can't associate
with your guys'
737
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:58,733
company, we can't refer you.
738
00:38:58,733 --> 00:39:01,600
I had two people that
tried to hold on,
739
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,133
and they said, you
know, we love you,
740
00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:06,267
we know that, you
know, this was not
741
00:39:06,267 --> 00:39:09,733
about hate or anything
of that nature.
742
00:39:09,733 --> 00:39:12,533
So we're going to keep
you on our website.
743
00:39:12,533 --> 00:39:16,200
One girl, she called
me about a week later,
744
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,900
and said I'm so,
so sorry, I have to
745
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:20,933
take you down, and
I said, that's okay,
746
00:39:20,933 --> 00:39:22,400
what's going on?
747
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,367
And she said, I haven't gotten
748
00:39:23,367 --> 00:39:24,867
any business this whole week.
749
00:39:24,867 --> 00:39:26,267
She goes, it's been
nothing but emails
750
00:39:26,267 --> 00:39:28,800
and phone calls of
just harassment.
751
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,267
And that's, I mean, I told her,
752
00:39:31,267 --> 00:39:34,033
take me down, I don't
want this to affect you.
753
00:39:34,033 --> 00:39:35,233
Go ahead.
754
00:39:35,233 --> 00:39:37,567
So I think that's,
at that point,
755
00:39:37,567 --> 00:39:39,400
when I lost all of
my vendors, which was
756
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,567
pretty much about 70,
right about there, percent
757
00:39:43,567 --> 00:39:47,800
of our business,
that's when I was like,
758
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,367
oh, this isn't good.
759
00:39:49,367 --> 00:39:53,333
- This is free
market, capitalism,
760
00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:56,067
I'm just saying that
people have a right
761
00:39:56,067 --> 00:39:58,667
to go tell their people
that we're upset at you.
762
00:39:58,667 --> 00:40:00,633
We don't like you
working with them,
763
00:40:00,633 --> 00:40:02,433
and they can either
cave or they can not,
764
00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:03,667
but I mean.
765
00:40:03,667 --> 00:40:04,600
- I don't think
it's okay for them
766
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,667
to harass people, I think that's
767
00:40:05,667 --> 00:40:06,900
a little bit extreme.
768
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:08,333
- I mean, one vendor
literally went to the
769
00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,167
extent of things, that
I haven't been able
770
00:40:10,167 --> 00:40:12,467
to pick my phone up
without being cussed out.
771
00:40:12,467 --> 00:40:13,733
- Yeah.
772
00:40:13,733 --> 00:40:14,900
- Okay, now that's,
I mean, that's not,
773
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:16,333
hey, do you do business
with these people?
774
00:40:16,333 --> 00:40:18,333
You really shouldn't,
you know what they did?
775
00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:20,333
No, that's just I'm
angry, I'm angry
776
00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:22,667
and I don't want you to
do business with them.
777
00:40:22,667 --> 00:40:26,300
I mean, that actually
more closely mirrors
778
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:29,333
racketeering, and see now,
here's the odd part is,
779
00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:33,033
when that day, that
happened on January 17th,
780
00:40:33,033 --> 00:40:35,500
when her mom came back
in, her first words
781
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:38,200
out of her mouth was,
you got to say your piece
782
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,200
and you got a right to
it, I want to say mine.
783
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,100
I said, go ahead.
784
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:45,167
It goes both ways.
785
00:40:45,167 --> 00:40:47,233
- What did she say?
786
00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:48,533
- She told me that I was wrong,
787
00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,000
that her daughter
was born that way,
788
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,800
that God had made her
daughter that way.
789
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,100
She said I was wrong
and walked out.
790
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,100
And we agreed to disagree.
791
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:56,367
- [Interviewer] Right.
792
00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:57,200
- You know, what
a wonderful thing.
793
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,600
Out on the street.
794
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,600
A family of seven
out on the street.
795
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,267
In the name of
equality and tolerance.
796
00:41:03,267 --> 00:41:05,333
- [Woman] I don't
know anybody that has
797
00:41:05,333 --> 00:41:07,867
five kids that can afford.
798
00:41:07,867 --> 00:41:09,933
- 135 thousand dollar damages.
799
00:41:11,833 --> 00:41:14,833
- That alone blows my mind.
800
00:41:14,833 --> 00:41:17,033
- So you don't think it's
just a cultural coincidence
801
00:41:17,033 --> 00:41:19,700
that these are the professions
that have been targeted?
802
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:22,600
- What happens is we just
had this wedding ceremony,
803
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,100
and we went from the church
to the reception hall,
804
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,667
and there's certain
professions you call upon
805
00:41:28,667 --> 00:41:30,900
to make this look glorious.
806
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,400
Make this look like a
good time was had by all.
807
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,867
Make this lovely.
808
00:41:34,867 --> 00:41:37,067
Evangelical Christian
bakers, and evangelical
809
00:41:37,067 --> 00:41:39,167
Christian florists, and
evangelical Christian
810
00:41:39,167 --> 00:41:41,667
videographers,
and photographers,
811
00:41:41,667 --> 00:41:44,467
are saying no, we
can't make this lovely.
812
00:41:44,467 --> 00:41:47,833
This is beyond the
scope of my ability.
813
00:41:47,833 --> 00:41:51,233
What the homosexual
movement is after
814
00:41:51,233 --> 00:41:54,400
is not the right to marry.
815
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,267
They're after far
more than that.
816
00:41:56,267 --> 00:41:58,500
What they're after,
what they're demanding,
817
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:00,133
is our approval.
818
00:42:00,133 --> 00:42:03,600
- It's like, in some
way it's the victory
819
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,033
of the Gospel,
because I don't think
820
00:42:07,033 --> 00:42:10,467
100 years ago or on
another continent,
821
00:42:10,467 --> 00:42:12,000
you could have done this.
822
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,733
It's like, because
as Christians,
823
00:42:13,733 --> 00:42:18,733
we learn to appreciate
the underdog,
824
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,967
you know, because of the cross,
825
00:42:21,967 --> 00:42:26,200
we favor the victim,
but they've learned
826
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,767
to take that victim-hood,
that instinct
827
00:42:30,767 --> 00:42:33,567
to sort of favor the
victim, and turned it,
828
00:42:33,567 --> 00:42:35,433
it's like a jujitsu
move, where they've
829
00:42:35,433 --> 00:42:39,267
turned it into this way
of asserting power again.
830
00:42:39,267 --> 00:42:41,500
But it is all just an
assertion of power,
831
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:44,067
it's like, you know,
this is the thing that's
832
00:42:44,067 --> 00:42:45,867
so frustrating as
Christians, is that
833
00:42:45,867 --> 00:42:48,367
tolerance, diversity,
all of these,
834
00:42:48,367 --> 00:42:51,733
they're words that they
don't mean tolerance,
835
00:42:51,733 --> 00:42:54,067
they mean, I mean,
tolerance means,
836
00:42:54,067 --> 00:42:56,667
as far as I can tell, we
don't serve your kind.
837
00:42:56,667 --> 00:42:59,567
You know, if the place
proclaims tolerance,
838
00:42:59,567 --> 00:43:01,000
it means I'm not welcome there.
839
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,900
If they proclaim diversity,
I'm not welcome there.
840
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:04,700
And they've grabbed those words
841
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,533
and changed it by raw power.
842
00:43:06,533 --> 00:43:09,133
And if you challenge
the definition,
843
00:43:09,133 --> 00:43:11,000
it's a temper tantrum, right.
844
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,533
It's not going to be
a reasoned discussion
845
00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:14,900
about what those
words really mean.
846
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:17,733
It's just, by power,
they've asserted this,
847
00:43:17,733 --> 00:43:20,567
but they've done it in
this kind of cunning way,
848
00:43:20,567 --> 00:43:24,333
where, at least, I think
Christians are initially thrown,
849
00:43:24,333 --> 00:43:28,100
because we're supposed
to favor the victim,
850
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,800
and so we sit there,
scratch our heads,
851
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,667
try to figure out why,
but we don't realize,
852
00:43:32,667 --> 00:43:34,800
no, this is just
another power move.
853
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,500
It's just they're
doing it in a way that
854
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:38,033
Christians are
slow to catch on to
855
00:43:38,033 --> 00:43:38,967
what's happening.
856
00:43:38,967 --> 00:43:40,367
- I can see being disappointed.
857
00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:43,767
Is that worth 135
thousand dollars?
858
00:43:43,767 --> 00:43:47,267
You know, 80 cents.
859
00:43:47,267 --> 00:43:48,700
I'd go 80 cents on that.
860
00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:50,733
- How about a free
birthday cake?
861
00:43:50,733 --> 00:43:52,433
You know, I mean.
862
00:43:54,033 --> 00:43:55,867
Now, the ones I find are just
863
00:43:58,033 --> 00:44:00,067
I don't know what
mentally rape means.
864
00:44:00,067 --> 00:44:01,833
I don't get that one.
865
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,567
I don't know how you can
have loss of appetite,
866
00:44:05,567 --> 00:44:08,800
- [Interviewer] So you
somehow mentally raped.
867
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,933
- [Man] By saying I'm sorry,
I can't do your wedding cake.
868
00:44:10,933 --> 00:44:13,233
- [Woman] That I just
don't understand, honestly.
869
00:44:13,233 --> 00:44:15,667
- And for all those
people who would say,
870
00:44:15,667 --> 00:44:17,633
well that's not what
really happened,
871
00:44:17,633 --> 00:44:20,300
no, she said that on the
stand and court under oath,
872
00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:21,933
that that's what I said to her,
873
00:44:21,933 --> 00:44:24,433
was I'm sorry, I think I
may have wasted your time,
874
00:44:24,433 --> 00:44:26,467
I can't do the same
sex wedding cake.
875
00:44:27,867 --> 00:44:29,033
- And at that point,
876
00:44:30,133 --> 00:44:34,033
those words are
still injuring today.
877
00:44:34,033 --> 00:44:35,733
Penetrated her in
such a way that she
878
00:44:35,733 --> 00:44:38,433
did not want to be
penetrated with words?
879
00:44:39,867 --> 00:44:40,900
- I suppose.
880
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,100
- I can't describe why.
881
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:47,467
- But then again,
those words caused
882
00:44:47,467 --> 00:44:49,833
another girl that was not
even present at the shop
883
00:44:49,833 --> 00:44:52,467
to start smoking,
that was my fault.
884
00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:57,633
They had loss of
appetite, but weight gain.
885
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:02,500
Insomnia and they overslept.
886
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:03,667
- Which by the way is actually
887
00:45:03,667 --> 00:45:04,933
the worst condition
to get, right.
888
00:45:04,933 --> 00:45:07,000
If I lost my appetite,
and I had weight gain?
889
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,867
Cause if I want weight
gain, I want to be enjoying
890
00:45:08,867 --> 00:45:10,067
the food I'm eating.
891
00:45:11,433 --> 00:45:12,367
Right?
892
00:45:12,367 --> 00:45:14,733
So I mean that, if that is true,
893
00:45:14,733 --> 00:45:16,367
that's horrible.
894
00:45:16,367 --> 00:45:17,833
- I made, and this
is going to be
895
00:45:17,833 --> 00:45:19,367
something that you
find interesting,
896
00:45:19,367 --> 00:45:20,667
I made somebody who did not have
897
00:45:20,667 --> 00:45:22,567
a job dislike going to work.
898
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:26,500
- What?
899
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:30,933
- One of the things
that, you know,
900
00:45:30,933 --> 00:45:33,300
if you look at the
story of Johnny Cash,
901
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:34,900
and you look at
how the late 80s,
902
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:38,633
the early 90s, Nashville
had turned its back on him.
903
00:45:38,633 --> 00:45:41,333
It was Rolling Stone,
Billboard, one of the big
904
00:45:41,333 --> 00:45:43,833
music magazines, and
they just took it out
905
00:45:43,833 --> 00:45:46,400
on, I believe,
American Records did,
906
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,800
it was a picture of Johnny Cash
907
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,200
just flipping off the
camera, and in a sense
908
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,967
something like Johnny Cash would
909
00:45:53,967 --> 00:45:56,067
like to thank Nashville
for all of his support.
910
00:45:57,533 --> 00:46:00,000
Nashville, in this story,
Nashville was a lot like,
911
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,433
you know, reformed,
evangelical culture
912
00:46:04,433 --> 00:46:09,000
that has this idea
of a very clean,
913
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,133
nice, biblically
accurate, you know,
914
00:46:13,133 --> 00:46:16,633
gospel, and so,
someone like, you know,
915
00:46:16,633 --> 00:46:19,600
Johnny Cash, and they're
making songs that
916
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,367
we don't listen to that music.
917
00:46:21,367 --> 00:46:22,633
And that's kinda dark.
918
00:46:22,633 --> 00:46:26,500
I think, you know,
his music doesn't
919
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:30,967
fit into, you know,
doesn't fit in.
920
00:46:30,967 --> 00:46:32,833
And it's just like Johnny Cash,
921
00:46:32,833 --> 00:46:34,267
what happens.
922
00:46:34,267 --> 00:46:36,933
You know, a lot of
people, a whole new wave
923
00:46:36,933 --> 00:46:41,000
of younger people,
start listening to him,
924
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,233
listening to Johnny
Cash, become big fans
925
00:46:43,233 --> 00:46:44,800
and those were some of
his biggest records.
926
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,800
And I think, there's
a lot of parallels
927
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,667
as far as that goes,
I think, you know,
928
00:46:50,667 --> 00:46:55,667
Doug doesn't fit into a nice,
gospel coalition reformer
929
00:46:56,967 --> 00:46:58,200
evangelical build.
930
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,800
- Doug was very
clear, in Indiana,
931
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,000
but far more than clear,
he was courageous.
932
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,667
I mean, that was a thing,
933
00:47:06,667 --> 00:47:11,667
like you can imagine,
if you're watching that.
934
00:47:12,867 --> 00:47:14,100
- I speak as a queer,
I speak as a atheist.
935
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:16,233
I speak as a student,
speak as an instructor.
936
00:47:16,233 --> 00:47:17,833
- I have a hard time when
I'm watching something like
937
00:47:17,833 --> 00:47:19,900
that, not imagining
myself in those shoes.
938
00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:22,000
- Has by your
definition, then Abraham,
939
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,767
Sarah, and Hagar were
all bisexuals too?
940
00:47:24,767 --> 00:47:26,933
- I'm openly gay
and a Christian.
941
00:47:26,933 --> 00:47:29,033
- You know, if somebody's
standing on a cliff,
942
00:47:29,033 --> 00:47:32,167
I get scared, because I
feel like I'm on the cliff,
943
00:47:32,167 --> 00:47:34,333
what would it be like
to be in that position?
944
00:47:34,333 --> 00:47:37,767
- What did he lose
again, by going to Heaven
945
00:47:37,767 --> 00:47:39,367
and ruling over the universe?
946
00:47:39,367 --> 00:47:41,200
I mean, where's the sacrifice?
947
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,033
- Why you think you
have the right and
948
00:47:43,033 --> 00:47:46,300
the privilege of speaking
for all Christians?
949
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:50,033
- Can somebody be both
Christian and gay?
950
00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:53,767
- You see that and
you're, I get nervous and
951
00:47:53,767 --> 00:47:55,133
sick in my stomach.
952
00:47:55,133 --> 00:47:57,133
- Homosexual behavior
is observed in
953
00:47:57,133 --> 00:47:59,300
almost every species.
954
00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:00,533
- Man and woman.
955
00:48:00,533 --> 00:48:02,533
Does that mean God was
literally intersex?
956
00:48:02,533 --> 00:48:04,000
Or was he just really queer?
957
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,300
- Where does Jesus say that
homosexuality is a sin?
958
00:48:08,167 --> 00:48:10,833
- It's very inconsistent.
959
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,767
It's kind of very
confusing if everybody's
960
00:48:14,767 --> 00:48:17,600
bad, then, really, what's,
I don't want to say
961
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,967
what's the point, but
yeah, what's the point?
962
00:48:19,967 --> 00:48:22,900
- Imagine, standing there,
with that crowd, shouting.
963
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:25,100
- When that's just
your side of the story?
964
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:29,967
(applause)
965
00:48:42,633 --> 00:48:45,067
- Doug was clear, because
he had the courage,
966
00:48:45,067 --> 00:48:46,367
and you know the
courage obviously comes
967
00:48:46,367 --> 00:48:48,300
from faith, you know,
faith, to courage,
968
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:51,900
to then you can think
clearly and you do that.
969
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,600
So I'd like to raise up
a generation of people
970
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,400
that have that virtue.
971
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,133
Because what happens
is, as soon as
972
00:48:59,133 --> 00:49:03,600
David steps up, and says, no,
973
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,967
I'm going to face
Goliath, as soon as
974
00:49:05,967 --> 00:49:10,333
he does that, then
everybody phoomed behind,
975
00:49:10,333 --> 00:49:11,933
but you have to
have a couple people
976
00:49:11,933 --> 00:49:15,500
who are first really
to make that stand,
977
00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:18,400
that then everybody
can go, because till
978
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,700
somebody does that,
everybody just sits there
979
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:24,333
looking back and forth,
until they're ripped apart,
980
00:49:24,333 --> 00:49:25,833
you know, the shield
wall is broken,
981
00:49:25,833 --> 00:49:28,300
and then you're gone,
and you never realize,
982
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:30,633
actually you had the forces,
983
00:49:30,633 --> 00:49:31,567
you had the people,
984
00:49:31,567 --> 00:49:33,200
you had what was necessary,
985
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,033
it's just you didn't
have the courage.
986
00:49:35,033 --> 00:49:36,900
You didn't have
spine to stand up
987
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:41,533
and say what's patently obvious.
988
00:49:45,933 --> 00:49:47,333
* I'm from a side,
come and get it
989
00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:51,167
* must of work, with a grown man
990
00:49:51,167 --> 00:49:52,867
* I've got my beer,
state of my holy
991
00:49:52,867 --> 00:49:54,233
* suckers trying hold me
992
00:49:54,233 --> 00:49:56,367
* Imma kill them
with my own hands
993
00:49:56,367 --> 00:49:57,600
* They keep pulling me back
994
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,867
* I'm from the side,
come and get it
995
00:49:58,867 --> 00:50:00,000
* Must them work
going cleaning up
996
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,500
* Now we call that grown man
997
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:03,900
* I got my beer,
state of my holy
998
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:05,400
* suckers trying to hold me
999
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,633
* Imma kill them
with my own hands *
1000
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,233
- Not only does this say
1001
00:50:10,233 --> 00:50:12,267
about homosexuality
is wrong, and you,
1002
00:50:12,267 --> 00:50:14,900
in your works, you have
said that homosexuals
1003
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:17,100
deserve to die or be exiled.
1004
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:18,633
So what do you say
to those people
1005
00:50:18,633 --> 00:50:21,500
who are wearing polyester,
with two blended fabrics?
1006
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:24,633
Those who plant two
different kinds of seeds
1007
00:50:24,633 --> 00:50:26,867
in the same field, or
those who breed two
1008
00:50:26,867 --> 00:50:28,433
different kinds of
the same animal,
1009
00:50:28,433 --> 00:50:30,233
do they deserve to die as well?
1010
00:50:30,233 --> 00:50:32,467
- Number one, it is
true that the Bible
1011
00:50:32,467 --> 00:50:35,900
teaches that sinners
are worthy of death.
1012
00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:37,567
I don't want to
indicate in any way
1013
00:50:37,567 --> 00:50:39,700
that I think that
being worthy of death
1014
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:41,800
in this way is in any way unique
1015
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,400
to homosexuals, I
believe I deserve to die
1016
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,467
for my sins.
1017
00:50:45,467 --> 00:50:46,767
The sentence of death rests on
1018
00:50:46,767 --> 00:50:49,167
the whole human race,
for this condition of
1019
00:50:49,167 --> 00:50:52,533
sinfulness and also
for particular sins,
1020
00:50:52,533 --> 00:50:55,300
of which homosexuality
is one, heterosexual sin
1021
00:50:55,300 --> 00:50:56,433
is another, and so on.
1022
00:50:56,433 --> 00:50:57,667
So that's the first part.
1023
00:50:57,667 --> 00:50:58,900
The second part
of your question,
1024
00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:02,033
is in the Old Testament,
there are three kinds
1025
00:51:02,033 --> 00:51:05,267
of laws, there's moral
law, there's judicial law,
1026
00:51:05,267 --> 00:51:06,933
and there's ceremonial law.
1027
00:51:06,933 --> 00:51:09,767
God required of the Jews
in the Old Testament
1028
00:51:09,767 --> 00:51:12,200
that the Book of
Ephesians calls it
1029
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,067
ordinances contained
within in the Commandment.
1030
00:51:15,067 --> 00:51:17,233
It's a holiness code,
so he's teaching
1031
00:51:17,233 --> 00:51:19,767
them this, not that,
so unclean foods,
1032
00:51:19,767 --> 00:51:23,300
you're not to eat
this, you may eat that,
1033
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:25,133
and the New Testament
tells us very
1034
00:51:25,133 --> 00:51:27,433
expressly that
this holiness code
1035
00:51:27,433 --> 00:51:29,933
is not erased as
though a bad idea,
1036
00:51:29,933 --> 00:51:32,633
but it's fulfilled in
Christ, which is why
1037
00:51:32,633 --> 00:51:34,733
the ceremonial law
of the Old Testament
1038
00:51:34,733 --> 00:51:37,267
is not binding on
Christians today.
1039
00:51:37,267 --> 00:51:38,867
But the moral law is.
1040
00:51:38,867 --> 00:51:40,267
- I mean, it's
amazing, the disparity
1041
00:51:40,267 --> 00:51:42,000
when you get to
a college campus.
1042
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,900
There are smart kids,
there are kids who are
1043
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:49,900
dumb as rocks, and at all
kinds of universities.
1044
00:51:51,933 --> 00:51:54,400
- [Interviewer] How are
the dumb people there?
1045
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,333
- It's really not difficult
to get in to colleges.
1046
00:52:00,533 --> 00:52:02,600
- Is there an issue
if there are people
1047
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,633
that love each other,
and they choose
1048
00:52:04,633 --> 00:52:06,133
to express their
love in a way that
1049
00:52:06,133 --> 00:52:08,700
does not harm anyone, nor
does it harm themselves,
1050
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:10,100
and it's just purely love,
1051
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:11,367
is there a problem with that?
1052
00:52:11,367 --> 00:52:12,767
- You're including
sexual expression
1053
00:52:12,767 --> 00:52:14,233
of love, or you're just talking
about loving each other?
1054
00:52:14,233 --> 00:52:15,633
I think we should
all love each other.
1055
00:52:15,633 --> 00:52:17,067
- Yeah, and I'm including
sexual expression
1056
00:52:17,067 --> 00:52:18,467
of love too, if it doesn't hurt
1057
00:52:18,467 --> 00:52:20,067
anyone else, and it
doesn't hurt you,
1058
00:52:20,067 --> 00:52:22,500
and it's purely love, why
is there an issue with it?
1059
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,367
- Okay, first, if
that were the case,
1060
00:52:25,367 --> 00:52:27,167
I would agree with you.
1061
00:52:27,167 --> 00:52:28,367
- Why is that not the case?
1062
00:52:28,367 --> 00:52:29,567
Because I feel that
that's probably
1063
00:52:29,567 --> 00:52:30,800
where we're at.
1064
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,667
- The place where
this is hitching up
1065
00:52:32,667 --> 00:52:34,733
is in that phrase,
provided it is not
1066
00:52:34,733 --> 00:52:36,567
hurting anybody else.
1067
00:52:36,567 --> 00:52:37,800
Okay.
1068
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,067
In other words, we
believe, we believe
1069
00:52:40,067 --> 00:52:43,267
that God tells us, that
these things are destructive.
1070
00:52:43,267 --> 00:52:44,733
- Don't say we, because
that includes me.
1071
00:52:44,733 --> 00:52:47,767
I'm not part of that we.
1072
00:52:47,767 --> 00:52:50,967
- Got it, okay, so when
I'm saying we here,
1073
00:52:50,967 --> 00:52:52,600
I'm not saying we
here in this room,
1074
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,433
I am saying, we
Christians, I'm trying to
1075
00:52:55,433 --> 00:52:56,933
speak on behalf of Christians.
1076
00:52:56,933 --> 00:53:00,000
- [Woman in crowd] Some
Christians, not all Christians.
1077
00:53:03,267 --> 00:53:05,200
- [Interviewer]
Where did you go?
1078
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,200
- Case and point,
case and point.
1079
00:53:09,733 --> 00:53:11,667
I went to Yale and Notre Dame,
1080
00:53:11,667 --> 00:53:13,100
they'll let anybody in.
1081
00:53:14,833 --> 00:53:16,633
- [Doug] I'd like to hear
the gentleman's question.
1082
00:53:16,633 --> 00:53:18,833
- So I'm an English
student, I study
1083
00:53:18,833 --> 00:53:20,500
language and I study text.
1084
00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:23,133
I want to know why, I
guess people in general,
1085
00:53:23,133 --> 00:53:24,367
cause I didn't
really listen to much
1086
00:53:24,367 --> 00:53:25,867
of what you had to
say because I don't
1087
00:53:25,867 --> 00:53:28,367
really believe that the
Bible is the word of God.
1088
00:53:28,367 --> 00:53:31,133
- Should I listen to your
question as carefully?
1089
00:53:31,133 --> 00:53:33,333
- Well, sir, I'm
asking you about the
1090
00:53:33,333 --> 00:53:34,600
root of your faith.
1091
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,000
- Should I listen
to your question,
1092
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:39,733
would you like me to
listen to your question
1093
00:53:39,733 --> 00:53:41,800
as carefully as you
listened to my talk?
1094
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,467
- If you want to get,
if you want to serve
1095
00:53:44,467 --> 00:53:48,900
people up, talk
about their life,
1096
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,767
and if you mess with that,
1097
00:53:50,767 --> 00:53:52,400
people aren't
going to like that.
1098
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,733
- All Americans
have the right to
1099
00:53:53,733 --> 00:53:56,133
make decisions about
their own bodies,
1100
00:53:56,133 --> 00:53:57,933
including the right to
contraception without
1101
00:53:57,933 --> 00:53:59,700
interference from
the government,
1102
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,300
business, or religious
institutions.
1103
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:03,867
Do you agree with that?
1104
00:54:03,867 --> 00:54:05,533
- I believe that,
I believe there
1105
00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:08,400
aught to be no legal
restriction at all
1106
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,800
on what a woman does
with her own body.
1107
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,233
If she decides that she wants to
1108
00:54:12,233 --> 00:54:13,900
chop off this
finger, I don't think
1109
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:15,267
there aught to be
a law against it.
1110
00:54:15,267 --> 00:54:17,533
If she wants to chop
off all her fingers,
1111
00:54:17,533 --> 00:54:18,767
I don't think there
should be a law
1112
00:54:18,767 --> 00:54:20,900
against it, but why
do we not have to
1113
00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:22,400
make a law against it?
1114
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,333
We don't, the reason that's not
1115
00:54:25,333 --> 00:54:27,800
a pressing social
issue, is precisely
1116
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,300
because her fingers
are her body.
1117
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:34,667
She takes care of that,
which is her body.
1118
00:54:34,667 --> 00:54:36,533
The issue in the
whole abortion rights
1119
00:54:36,533 --> 00:54:38,233
thing, and this goes
back to my first point
1120
00:54:38,233 --> 00:54:40,767
and my first talk,
I hope you can see
1121
00:54:40,767 --> 00:54:42,900
how your religious
presuppositions
1122
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:45,667
define everything,
because if you are
1123
00:54:45,667 --> 00:54:46,900
approaching this
from a Christian
1124
00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:50,167
vantage point,
reproductive rights
1125
00:54:50,167 --> 00:54:54,133
is code word for my
body, and my child,
1126
00:54:54,133 --> 00:54:56,500
and I can take my child's life,
1127
00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:58,033
if I want, and no
one can tell me
1128
00:54:58,033 --> 00:55:00,400
that I can't, so if you believe,
1129
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,600
as I do, that
there's more people
1130
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,733
involved than just the woman.
1131
00:55:05,933 --> 00:55:10,733
- I just don't think
that unbelievers are
1132
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,267
fully consistent with where
their worldview is going.
1133
00:55:15,267 --> 00:55:19,667
- First part of your,
whatever this is, show,
1134
00:55:19,667 --> 00:55:22,767
I'm entertained, somehow,
I don't know why,
1135
00:55:22,767 --> 00:55:24,600
I was wondering, you
mentioned something
1136
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,700
about us having to live
up to our lifestyles
1137
00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:29,700
that we try to put
out for society,
1138
00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:30,867
try to live up to that.
1139
00:55:30,867 --> 00:55:32,633
I'm wondering why aren't you?
1140
00:55:32,633 --> 00:55:35,533
I mean, I'm listening to
this, all I hear is a bunch
1141
00:55:35,533 --> 00:55:39,100
of just hypocritical
talking, because I look
1142
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:40,967
through, and I look
at people like,
1143
00:55:40,967 --> 00:55:42,900
I have two aunts, that are gay,
1144
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:44,133
and they've been
together for years,
1145
00:55:44,133 --> 00:55:46,167
way before I was
born, and they're
1146
00:55:46,167 --> 00:55:47,800
like, two of the
most sweetest people
1147
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,233
I've ever known,
you know, look at
1148
00:55:49,233 --> 00:55:50,433
the shirts off your
back, they'll do anything
1149
00:55:50,433 --> 00:55:53,467
or anyone, and you know,
I find it weird that
1150
00:55:53,467 --> 00:55:57,133
you know, first, this
religion who has such
1151
00:55:57,133 --> 00:56:01,700
a loving and caring
passionate God
1152
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:03,033
for the beings that he created,
1153
00:56:03,033 --> 00:56:04,767
why would he shun them if he
1154
00:56:04,767 --> 00:56:06,400
created them that way?
1155
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,033
And you know, I
just don't, I'm not
1156
00:56:08,033 --> 00:56:09,300
understanding where
you're getting
1157
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:12,067
off all this hate
talk and you know,
1158
00:56:12,067 --> 00:56:13,733
casting judgement
on other people,
1159
00:56:13,733 --> 00:56:15,833
because I was pretty
sure the Bible said,
1160
00:56:15,833 --> 00:56:18,433
you know, judge not,
lest you be judged.
1161
00:56:18,433 --> 00:56:20,900
And my favorite
proverb was, you know,
1162
00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:25,433
let you without sin
cast the first stone.
1163
00:56:25,433 --> 00:56:27,800
And you know, I'm
trying to understand
1164
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,567
why you're being
such a hypocrite,
1165
00:56:32,567 --> 00:56:35,433
because you're not
talking, you know,
1166
00:56:35,433 --> 00:56:37,067
nothing you're
saying is connecting,
1167
00:56:37,067 --> 00:56:38,767
I just really want an
answer, and I would
1168
00:56:38,767 --> 00:56:41,067
like it in the form of
logic, if that's possible.
1169
00:56:41,067 --> 00:56:42,800
- Okay.
1170
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,533
With Mathews, you
quoted Mathews 1:7,
1171
00:56:46,533 --> 00:56:48,933
judge not lest you
be judged, for the
1172
00:56:48,933 --> 00:56:51,233
judgement which you judge
you shall be judged.
1173
00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:53,067
Jesus is not saying,
don't ever judge,
1174
00:56:53,067 --> 00:56:54,833
he says, the
judgement that you use
1175
00:56:54,833 --> 00:56:56,600
is going to be used on you.
1176
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,200
He says, don't judge
with a double standard.
1177
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,467
In other words, I've not
said anything here tonight
1178
00:57:03,467 --> 00:57:05,733
that I'm not fully
willing to have
1179
00:57:05,733 --> 00:57:09,533
applied to me, the
Bible applies to me
1180
00:57:09,533 --> 00:57:11,367
in the first instance.
1181
00:57:11,367 --> 00:57:13,067
The Bible applies
to me before I think
1182
00:57:13,067 --> 00:57:14,900
about anybody else,
before I think about laws
1183
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:17,767
or policy, it applies to me.
1184
00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:19,833
I am a sinner.
1185
00:57:19,833 --> 00:57:23,367
- This in consistency
is a common
1186
00:57:23,367 --> 00:57:26,233
grace almost, it
allows the unbeliever
1187
00:57:26,233 --> 00:57:29,467
to survive, to get on with life,
1188
00:57:29,467 --> 00:57:33,000
you know, to not self destruct.
1189
00:57:33,867 --> 00:57:36,533
- So, I study psychology here,
1190
00:57:36,533 --> 00:57:39,300
and I'm particularly interested
in Kinsey's research,
1191
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:41,967
and I came here
under the supposition
1192
00:57:41,967 --> 00:57:44,767
that it was about
Kinsey, I guess I missed
1193
00:57:44,767 --> 00:57:46,333
that part in your
lecture, where you talked
1194
00:57:46,333 --> 00:57:49,933
about Kinsey, and I
was interested in where
1195
00:57:49,933 --> 00:57:53,167
your research is, that
shows his is wrong.
1196
00:57:53,167 --> 00:57:55,167
Cause you say that
Kinsey is wrong,
1197
00:57:55,167 --> 00:57:57,767
I'm just interested
in what kind of survey
1198
00:57:57,767 --> 00:58:02,300
you conducted, what you're
counterarguments are.
1199
00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:04,600
- The particular things
I would object to
1200
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,200
with Kinsey is his
correspondence with
1201
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,433
a guy named Von
Balluseck, a German Nazi
1202
00:58:11,433 --> 00:58:13,567
who did experiments.
1203
00:58:13,567 --> 00:58:14,800
- So you have a
problem with who he
1204
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,300
was friends with, not
with his research?
1205
00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:19,967
- Well, he was using Von
Balluseck's information as
1206
00:58:19,967 --> 00:58:21,233
par of his research.
1207
00:58:21,233 --> 00:58:22,667
- Okay, so you still
have a problem with
1208
00:58:22,667 --> 00:58:24,167
his friends, not his research?
1209
00:58:24,167 --> 00:58:26,767
- No, his friends
were his research,
1210
00:58:26,767 --> 00:58:28,967
his friends, he
collected information
1211
00:58:28,967 --> 00:58:31,433
from these people,
and in Kinsey's
1212
00:58:31,433 --> 00:58:36,433
book, I think it's
table 32, he talks about
1213
00:58:37,300 --> 00:58:41,233
orgasmic experience in infants
1214
00:58:41,233 --> 00:58:43,500
two months old, four months old,
1215
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:45,033
and he has the table that goes
1216
00:58:45,033 --> 00:58:49,133
up and explains how many orgasms
1217
00:58:49,133 --> 00:58:51,000
in a 24 hour period these little
1218
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,733
kids were having,
and the only way
1219
00:58:53,733 --> 00:58:56,667
they'd be having what
Kinsey called orgasms,
1220
00:58:56,667 --> 00:58:58,400
because he defined
orgasms in these
1221
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,300
situations as
including convulsions,
1222
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:03,400
throwing up, screaming,
fear, which is what
1223
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,567
a child would do when
being preyed upon
1224
00:59:05,567 --> 00:59:07,367
by a sexual predator,
that's defined
1225
00:59:07,367 --> 00:59:11,500
as an orgasm in his
operational definition,
1226
00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:13,633
and he includes that
in his research.
1227
00:59:13,633 --> 00:59:16,867
He included prisoners
and represented them
1228
00:59:16,867 --> 00:59:18,733
as part of the
general population,
1229
00:59:18,733 --> 00:59:20,100
he included prisoners including
1230
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:22,367
people who where in
jail for sex crimes,
1231
00:59:22,367 --> 00:59:25,800
as normed, ordinary
citizens, I just
1232
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,600
believe it was a
junk science to go
1233
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,000
with a junk morality.
1234
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,867
- Right.
1235
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:35,467
- You've almost gone
beyond where you
1236
00:59:35,467 --> 00:59:37,867
can talk to someone.
1237
00:59:37,867 --> 00:59:39,300
And I see that on both sides,
1238
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:41,133
I see, I mean, Christians
and non-Christians,
1239
00:59:41,133 --> 00:59:46,133
they just can't, they
just can't reason well.
1240
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,533
And it's scary, you
know, run by emotions.
1241
00:59:52,533 --> 00:59:54,267
And I mean, we all
are, none of us are
1242
00:59:54,267 --> 00:59:56,333
perfectly consistent,
we're all you know,
1243
00:59:56,333 --> 01:00:01,333
all only human, but
it's such a disaster
1244
01:00:02,533 --> 01:00:04,867
out there, that it's
getting to the point
1245
01:00:04,867 --> 01:00:07,767
where, I mean, and I know
people have said this,
1246
01:00:07,767 --> 01:00:10,833
in probably every
generation, the barbarians
1247
01:00:10,833 --> 01:00:14,400
are not at the gates,
they're, we're hanging
1248
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,100
out with them now.
1249
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:19,500
We're a culture who is
just the littlest thing
1250
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:24,500
hurts us, but we don't
mind killing others.
1251
01:00:25,967 --> 01:00:27,700
- So why folks in
Bloomington want to pretend
1252
01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:29,733
that Wilson is racist
and the answer being,
1253
01:00:29,733 --> 01:00:31,267
because they would like
to distract from the fact
1254
01:00:31,267 --> 01:00:33,933
Kinsey was a dirty white
perv, pedaling junk science
1255
01:00:33,933 --> 01:00:36,233
in defense of
destructive sexuality.
1256
01:00:36,233 --> 01:00:38,200
The reason we feel like
you're racist is because
1257
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,833
in Southern Slavery As It Was,
1258
01:00:39,833 --> 01:00:41,300
a monograph by Steve Wilkins and
1259
01:00:41,300 --> 01:00:43,400
Douglas Wilson, I
think that's you,
1260
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,133
it says slavery
produced in the South
1261
01:00:46,133 --> 01:00:48,300
a genuine affection
between the races that
1262
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:50,233
we can say has
never existed in any
1263
01:00:50,233 --> 01:00:52,433
nation before the war since,
1264
01:00:52,433 --> 01:00:54,533
whatever it's failures,
slavery produced in the South
1265
01:00:54,533 --> 01:00:56,733
a duree of mutual affection
between the races,
1266
01:00:56,733 --> 01:00:57,967
which will never be
achieved through any
1267
01:00:57,967 --> 01:01:00,000
federally mandated efforts.
1268
01:01:01,867 --> 01:01:03,600
Can you please
elaborate on that?
1269
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,100
How is that not racist?
1270
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:08,300
It's actually, one more thing,
1271
01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:12,333
three historians even
said, condemned it,
1272
01:01:12,333 --> 01:01:13,933
with one of them
saying that it was
1273
01:01:13,933 --> 01:01:16,267
as spurious as a
Holocaust denial.
1274
01:01:16,267 --> 01:01:18,900
That's pretty racist to me.
1275
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:20,100
So could you please
elaborate and how
1276
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:23,600
it interconnects
with Christ, and how
1277
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,667
Christ had unconditional
love for the world
1278
01:01:25,667 --> 01:01:27,600
and how the two interconnect,
1279
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,167
how racism's okay because
God said it was okay,
1280
01:01:31,167 --> 01:01:33,433
which is kind of what this
pamphlet is telling me.
1281
01:01:33,433 --> 01:01:37,100
- Okay, let me step
into your worldview
1282
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:41,033
for a minute, and speak
to this thing that I said
1283
01:01:41,033 --> 01:01:43,200
in Southern slavery.
1284
01:01:44,900 --> 01:01:46,467
And this is very important.
1285
01:01:46,467 --> 01:01:49,600
Assuming what your view of
the world to be correct,
1286
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,433
what you just read,
if I agreed with you,
1287
01:01:52,433 --> 01:01:55,467
I would dismiss as
stupid and asinine,
1288
01:01:55,467 --> 01:01:56,867
but not as racist.
1289
01:01:56,867 --> 01:01:59,633
Especially since
elsewhere in the booklet,
1290
01:01:59,633 --> 01:02:02,467
I defined race, racism,
racial animosity,
1291
01:02:02,467 --> 01:02:05,767
racism, and the belief
of superiority of one
1292
01:02:05,767 --> 01:02:08,967
race over another as
a sin against God,
1293
01:02:08,967 --> 01:02:11,100
in that booklet, I do that.
1294
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:12,667
- So you counter
your own points?
1295
01:02:12,667 --> 01:02:14,967
- No, I'm saying some
people who agitated
1296
01:02:14,967 --> 01:02:17,267
things need to do a
little bit more reading
1297
01:02:17,267 --> 01:02:19,333
before they got the
wind in their sails.
1298
01:02:19,333 --> 01:02:21,633
- I've done a lot of reading.
1299
01:02:23,733 --> 01:02:26,200
- This is the fundamental thing.
1300
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,900
So just so you understand this.
1301
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:30,833
As far as the theory
is racism charge,
1302
01:02:30,833 --> 01:02:33,067
I believe racism
is a sin, I believe
1303
01:02:33,067 --> 01:02:35,900
that it is evil, I
believe that God hates it,
1304
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:37,433
and I believe that
God will judge it
1305
01:02:37,433 --> 01:02:40,067
along with all other
sins at the last day.
1306
01:02:41,333 --> 01:02:43,133
Now, is that racist?
1307
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:45,967
No.
1308
01:02:45,967 --> 01:02:47,867
That's my position.
1309
01:02:47,867 --> 01:02:51,967
Now, if I believe
that you shouldn't
1310
01:02:51,967 --> 01:02:55,633
take a sinful institution,
which I believe
1311
01:02:55,633 --> 01:03:00,233
slavery was, and attack
it by fermenting a war,
1312
01:03:00,233 --> 01:03:02,467
if I believe that you
aught not to tackle
1313
01:03:02,467 --> 01:03:04,567
the problem that way,
but rather you aught
1314
01:03:04,567 --> 01:03:06,633
to attack the
problem another way,
1315
01:03:06,633 --> 01:03:08,867
you might differ,
and you're invited
1316
01:03:08,867 --> 01:03:10,767
to differ, with
whether my approach
1317
01:03:10,767 --> 01:03:13,333
to it is wise or stupid,
foolish, whatever.
1318
01:03:13,333 --> 01:03:15,200
But it's not racist.
1319
01:03:22,067 --> 01:03:24,933
- The privilege
and distinct honor
1320
01:03:24,933 --> 01:03:28,133
to introduce the
44th President of
1321
01:03:28,133 --> 01:03:30,733
the United States of America,
1322
01:03:30,733 --> 01:03:33,633
Barack H. Obama.
1323
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,767
(cheering)
1324
01:03:42,667 --> 01:03:47,233
- We, the people, declare today
1325
01:03:47,233 --> 01:03:50,467
that the most evident of truths,
1326
01:03:50,467 --> 01:03:53,200
that all of us
are created equal,
1327
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,500
is the star that
guides us still,
1328
01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:58,600
just as it guided
our forbears through
1329
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,733
Seneca Falls and
Selma and Stonewall,
1330
01:04:01,733 --> 01:04:04,133
just as it guided all
those men and women,
1331
01:04:04,133 --> 01:04:06,267
sung and unsung
who left footprints
1332
01:04:06,267 --> 01:04:08,967
along this great Mall,
to hear a preacher
1333
01:04:08,967 --> 01:04:12,167
say that we cannot walk alone.
1334
01:04:12,167 --> 01:04:14,700
To hear a king proclaim
that our individual
1335
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:17,333
freedom is inextricably
bound to the freedom
1336
01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:19,433
of every soul on Earth.
1337
01:04:20,767 --> 01:04:24,667
(applause)
1338
01:04:27,067 --> 01:04:29,700
It is now our generation's task
1339
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:33,500
to carry on what
those pioneers began.
1340
01:04:34,733 --> 01:04:36,267
For our journey's not complete
1341
01:04:36,267 --> 01:04:38,633
until our wives, our
mothers and daughters
1342
01:04:38,633 --> 01:04:41,733
can earn a living
equal to their efforts.
1343
01:04:41,733 --> 01:04:45,267
(applause)
1344
01:04:48,733 --> 01:04:50,267
Our journey is not
complete until our
1345
01:04:50,267 --> 01:04:52,300
gay brothers and
sisters are treated
1346
01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:55,667
like anyone else under the law.
1347
01:04:55,667 --> 01:04:58,100
For if we are truly
created equal,
1348
01:04:58,100 --> 01:04:59,600
they surely the love we commit
1349
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,200
to one another must
be equal as well.
1350
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,167
(applause)
1351
01:05:07,167 --> 01:05:08,467
Our journey is
not complete until
1352
01:05:08,467 --> 01:05:10,667
no citizen is forced
to wait for hours
1353
01:05:10,667 --> 01:05:12,700
to exercise the right to vote.
1354
01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:16,800
(applause)
1355
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,433
Our journey is
not complete until
1356
01:05:18,433 --> 01:05:20,967
we find a better way to
welcome the striving,
1357
01:05:20,967 --> 01:05:23,033
hopeful immigrants who still see
1358
01:05:23,033 --> 01:05:25,533
America as a land
of opportunity.
1359
01:05:25,533 --> 01:05:27,867
Until bright young
students and engineers
1360
01:05:27,867 --> 01:05:30,133
are listed in our
workforce rather
1361
01:05:30,133 --> 01:05:31,933
than expelled from our country.
1362
01:05:31,933 --> 01:05:35,800
(applause)
1363
01:05:37,533 --> 01:05:39,800
Our journey is not complete,
1364
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,533
until all our children,
in the streets
1365
01:05:42,533 --> 01:05:44,933
of Detroit to the
hills of Appalachia,
1366
01:05:44,933 --> 01:05:47,867
to the quiet lanes of Newtown,
1367
01:05:47,867 --> 01:05:50,667
know that they are cared for
1368
01:05:50,667 --> 01:05:54,367
and cherished and
always safe from harm.
1369
01:05:57,533 --> 01:06:00,867
That is our generation's task.
1370
01:06:01,967 --> 01:06:04,600
To make these
words, these rights,
1371
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,300
these values of life and liberty
1372
01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:10,567
and the pursuit of happiness,
1373
01:06:10,567 --> 01:06:13,900
real for every American.
1374
01:06:16,067 --> 01:06:17,800
Being true to our
founding documents
1375
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,200
does not require us to agree on
1376
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,200
every contour of life.
1377
01:06:25,900 --> 01:06:30,900
(cheering)
1378
01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:35,800
- We live in a time when racism
1379
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,667
is the all purpose
attack your enemy.
1380
01:06:40,867 --> 01:06:43,400
So I want to say,
if someone says,
1381
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,733
are you a racist, first, now,
1382
01:06:45,733 --> 01:06:47,333
what do you mean by racist?
1383
01:06:49,033 --> 01:06:50,500
- Okay, I'll jump in.
1384
01:06:51,967 --> 01:06:53,700
Do you believe the
Civil War was good?
1385
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:55,767
- No.
1386
01:06:58,133 --> 01:06:59,800
- Are you a big of
Abraham Lincoln?
1387
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,467
- No.
1388
01:07:01,467 --> 01:07:03,800
I think he was a
great man, but I don't
1389
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,100
think he was a
helpful president,
1390
01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:10,700
I think his presidency
had a number
1391
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:13,033
of destructive consequences that
1392
01:07:13,033 --> 01:07:15,533
we're still dealing with today.
1393
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:23,233
- [Crowd] Equal
pay for equal work.
1394
01:07:38,633 --> 01:07:41,500
- Are you an African
American woman?
1395
01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:42,967
- I identify as black.
1396
01:07:42,967 --> 01:07:45,500
- [Voiceover] Caitlyn
looked absolutely amazing.
1397
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,867
- Dealing with the fact that
we don't have slavery anymore?
1398
01:07:59,867 --> 01:08:01,400
- No, dealing with the
fact that the federal
1399
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,333
government thinks
they have the right
1400
01:08:03,333 --> 01:08:07,033
to define what marriage
is for all 50 states.
1401
01:08:07,033 --> 01:08:09,600
- How do we get to marriage
and talking about slavery?
1402
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,800
- Well, in that when
they, at the founding,
1403
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,200
you had 13 colonies form
the federal government.
1404
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,533
As a result of our
expansion westward,
1405
01:08:19,533 --> 01:08:22,100
and as a result of the
constitutional shifts
1406
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,400
in the war between the states,
1407
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,867
we then had the idea take root
1408
01:08:26,867 --> 01:08:29,467
that the federal
government could create
1409
01:08:29,467 --> 01:08:31,433
states, now the
federal government
1410
01:08:31,433 --> 01:08:34,700
is older than the new
states being created.
1411
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:36,967
- So the role of the
court wasn't settled.
1412
01:08:36,967 --> 01:08:38,567
John Marshall settled it.
1413
01:08:38,567 --> 01:08:40,333
He made it clear
that the decisions
1414
01:08:40,333 --> 01:08:42,300
of the Supreme
Court were binding
1415
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:44,633
on the state courts,
remember the state courts
1416
01:08:44,633 --> 01:08:47,933
as I said, they were here
before the Constitution.
1417
01:08:47,933 --> 01:08:50,333
It wasn't clear that
they were going to have
1418
01:08:50,333 --> 01:08:52,367
the final say, or these
new federal courts,
1419
01:08:52,367 --> 01:08:53,900
including the Supreme Court.
1420
01:08:53,900 --> 01:08:55,400
He established the Supreme Court
1421
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,267
as the final arbitrator of
what the Constitution means.
1422
01:08:58,267 --> 01:09:00,633
The branch that
was going to make
1423
01:09:00,633 --> 01:09:02,033
a decision was
going to be binding
1424
01:09:02,033 --> 01:09:04,367
not only on the
citizens, but also
1425
01:09:04,367 --> 01:09:06,200
on the states and
also importantly
1426
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,067
on the federal
government itself.
1427
01:09:09,167 --> 01:09:10,667
- People think the
federal, the centralized
1428
01:09:10,667 --> 01:09:13,967
government has
authority to tell the
1429
01:09:13,967 --> 01:09:17,833
lower downs what
to do, so we think
1430
01:09:17,833 --> 01:09:19,733
of it as a giant
corporation and the
1431
01:09:19,733 --> 01:09:22,433
federal government
is the CEO and all
1432
01:09:22,433 --> 01:09:25,333
the states are the
department managers.
1433
01:09:25,333 --> 01:09:28,600
That's not the
Constitutional system.
1434
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,767
That's not what the
Constitution created.
1435
01:09:31,767 --> 01:09:34,600
That's not what the
Constitution was set up to do.
1436
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,333
- As you already know,
the Supreme Court
1437
01:09:36,333 --> 01:09:38,633
is at the top of the ladder.
1438
01:09:38,633 --> 01:09:40,133
- [Voiceover] There has
been a decision handed
1439
01:09:40,133 --> 01:09:41,433
down on at least one of the two
1440
01:09:41,433 --> 01:09:44,167
cases regarding gay
marriage in America
1441
01:09:44,167 --> 01:09:46,733
that we expect to today
from the US Supreme Court.
1442
01:09:46,733 --> 01:09:47,933
- [Voiceover] The
cake shop owner
1443
01:09:47,933 --> 01:09:49,233
in Colorado now
facing fines or even
1444
01:09:49,233 --> 01:09:51,233
jail time after
he refused to bake
1445
01:09:51,233 --> 01:09:53,200
a cake for a same sex wedding.
1446
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,700
- Supreme Court
justice had said,
1447
01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:57,233
okay everybody,
you've got to let
1448
01:09:57,233 --> 01:09:59,400
two dudes marry,
you've got to let
1449
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,167
two women marry, all you people
1450
01:10:01,167 --> 01:10:03,067
in your states.
1451
01:10:03,067 --> 01:10:05,133
The federal government
would have been
1452
01:10:05,133 --> 01:10:07,200
handled at that
time, by eveybody
1453
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,067
just laughing at them.
1454
01:10:09,067 --> 01:10:11,400
It would have been
beyond ludicrous,
1455
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,233
because the federal government
1456
01:10:13,233 --> 01:10:16,533
did not have that power.
1457
01:10:16,533 --> 01:10:18,333
Did not have that authority.
1458
01:10:18,333 --> 01:10:21,900
But, it does now,
it certainly thinks
1459
01:10:21,900 --> 01:10:24,633
it does now, and
even many opponents
1460
01:10:24,633 --> 01:10:26,700
of same sex marriage
are positioning
1461
01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:29,600
themselves, you know,
political opponents,
1462
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,567
they're saying, well,
if the Supreme Court
1463
01:10:31,567 --> 01:10:33,800
decides that we've
got to do it this way,
1464
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,433
then well, they're the
Supreme Court after all,
1465
01:10:36,433 --> 01:10:39,100
we've got to do
whatever they say.
1466
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:40,933
That notion that we've got to do
1467
01:10:40,933 --> 01:10:44,833
whatever they say,
is a political
1468
01:10:44,833 --> 01:10:48,267
approach that has
a lineage, and that
1469
01:10:48,267 --> 01:10:50,567
lineage goes right
back to the war between
1470
01:10:50,567 --> 01:10:53,167
the states and the
way the 14th Amendment
1471
01:10:53,167 --> 01:10:56,200
was adopted and then applied.
1472
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,400
- [Voiceover] Clerk's
office turned away
1473
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,300
gay couples who sought
marriage licenses
1474
01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:01,133
Thursday, defying
a federal judge's
1475
01:11:01,133 --> 01:11:02,900
order that said
deeply held Christian
1476
01:11:02,900 --> 01:11:04,500
beliefs don't excuse officials
1477
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:06,200
from following the law.
1478
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,900
County clerk Kim Davis cited
1479
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:09,467
her religious
beliefs and decided
1480
01:11:09,467 --> 01:11:11,300
not to issue marriage licenses
1481
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:13,000
to any couple gay or straight.
1482
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,533
- I would ask you
all to go ahead and.
1483
01:11:15,533 --> 01:11:17,500
- Why are you not issuing
marriage licenses today?
1484
01:11:17,500 --> 01:11:18,833
- Because I'm not.
1485
01:11:18,833 --> 01:11:20,033
- Why?
1486
01:11:20,033 --> 01:11:21,333
- Under who's authority
are you not issuing?
1487
01:11:21,333 --> 01:11:22,600
- Under God's authority.
1488
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:27,600
- This began when a
handful of unelected
1489
01:11:28,733 --> 01:11:30,833
judges decreed they
knew better than
1490
01:11:30,833 --> 01:11:32,467
the American people,
and that we're
1491
01:11:32,467 --> 01:11:33,967
going to write in
to the Consistution
1492
01:11:33,967 --> 01:11:36,233
a right that doesn't exist.
1493
01:11:36,233 --> 01:11:41,233
- The Bill of Rights was
a series of appendices,
1494
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,033
a series of amendments.
1495
01:11:44,033 --> 01:11:48,900
- Resistance to the federal
court order ceases at once.
1496
01:11:48,900 --> 01:11:51,200
The further presence
of federal troops
1497
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,867
will be unnecessary.
1498
01:11:52,867 --> 01:11:54,600
The city of Little
Rock will return
1499
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,933
to it's normal habits
of peace and order.
1500
01:11:57,933 --> 01:12:00,267
And a blot upon
the fair name and
1501
01:12:00,267 --> 01:12:02,600
high honor of our
nation in the world
1502
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,500
will be removed.
1503
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:06,733
- Kim Davis is now
in federal custody
1504
01:12:06,733 --> 01:12:08,367
just moments ago
a judge found her
1505
01:12:08,367 --> 01:12:10,267
in contempt of court because she
1506
01:12:10,267 --> 01:12:12,100
would not issue
marriage licenses
1507
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:13,867
to same sex couples.
1508
01:12:13,867 --> 01:12:16,233
- Thus will be
restored the image
1509
01:12:16,233 --> 01:12:20,133
of America and of all
parts as one nation,
1510
01:12:20,133 --> 01:12:24,767
indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.
1511
01:12:24,767 --> 01:12:27,933
- The original Constitution
that the federalists
1512
01:12:27,933 --> 01:12:31,167
agreed to, in order to
get the anti-federalists
1513
01:12:31,167 --> 01:12:34,100
who opposed the adoption
of the Consitution,
1514
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:38,500
to allay their concerns,
the original Bill of Rights
1515
01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:41,567
were all restrictions
on the power of the
1516
01:12:41,567 --> 01:12:42,967
central government.
1517
01:12:42,967 --> 01:12:44,767
- In a landmark ruling,
the Supreme Court
1518
01:12:44,767 --> 01:12:47,267
today legalized abortions.
1519
01:12:47,267 --> 01:12:49,200
The majority and
cases from Texas
1520
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,733
and Georgia said
that the decision to
1521
01:12:50,733 --> 01:12:52,967
end the pregnancy
during the first three
1522
01:12:52,967 --> 01:12:56,067
months belongs to the
woman and her doctor.
1523
01:12:56,067 --> 01:12:57,200
- Who's got the power?
1524
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,500
- [Crowd] We've got the power!
1525
01:12:58,500 --> 01:12:59,600
- What kind of power?
1526
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,433
(shouting)
1527
01:13:01,433 --> 01:13:02,967
- [Crowd] It's basic rights.
1528
01:13:02,967 --> 01:13:04,767
Women can't be free.
1529
01:13:04,767 --> 01:13:08,533
Abortion happens now
and without apology.
1530
01:13:08,533 --> 01:13:10,067
- It's really hard
to say that that's
1531
01:13:10,067 --> 01:13:12,100
a meaningless mass of cells.
1532
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,600
Much more difficult
than it used to be.
1533
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,833
So, I think we're making
very significant progress.
1534
01:13:17,833 --> 01:13:19,733
You can see that
hearts start beating
1535
01:13:19,733 --> 01:13:22,100
at seven weeks, you
know, a heart doesn't
1536
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:24,800
beat in a meaningless
mass of cells.
1537
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:25,933
- Hold up, but
respectfully no one
1538
01:13:25,933 --> 01:13:27,333
in their twenties cares at all
1539
01:13:27,333 --> 01:13:29,033
or understands about
anything you just said.
1540
01:13:29,033 --> 01:13:31,200
- Yeah, that's their problem.
1541
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,167
- But it doesn't matter anymore.
1542
01:13:33,167 --> 01:13:35,400
Everything you just said doesn't
1543
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,500
matter, no one knows,
the Bill of Rights,
1544
01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:41,333
number 14th, no one
cares about that, Doug.
1545
01:13:41,333 --> 01:13:43,533
- Yeah, they're too busy
checking their email.
1546
01:13:43,533 --> 01:13:45,867
- So explain to me,
finish the sentence,
1547
01:13:45,867 --> 01:13:48,100
the Civil War was bad because?
1548
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:49,833
- Well, if they don't
care about what I just
1549
01:13:49,833 --> 01:13:52,233
said, they don't care
about the Civil War.
1550
01:13:52,233 --> 01:13:53,933
If they don't care
what I just said.
1551
01:13:53,933 --> 01:13:55,267
- But they care about slavery,
1552
01:13:55,267 --> 01:13:56,533
and slavery was a bad thing and
1553
01:13:56,533 --> 01:13:58,200
it ended because
of the Civil War.
1554
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,533
- No, what you're
saying is that these
1555
01:14:00,533 --> 01:14:02,533
people who cannot
be bothered to be
1556
01:14:02,533 --> 01:14:05,200
informed on what
actually happened
1557
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,500
in 1861, 1865, they're
too bored, you're making
1558
01:14:08,500 --> 01:14:10,000
my heart hurt, am
I going to have to
1559
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,333
read a book or something?
1560
01:14:11,333 --> 01:14:12,400
- Was slavery bad?
1561
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,267
- Yeah.
1562
01:14:14,267 --> 01:14:16,700
- So we got rid of
it through a war.
1563
01:14:16,700 --> 01:14:18,733
- Yeah, we killed 600
thousand people to
1564
01:14:18,733 --> 01:14:21,533
get rid of it, everywhere
else in the western word
1565
01:14:21,533 --> 01:14:25,133
no other country that
practiced slavery
1566
01:14:25,133 --> 01:14:28,100
got rid of it the way
we did, through a war.
1567
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:31,833
So, was it bad to kill
600 thousand people?
1568
01:14:31,833 --> 01:14:34,233
Yeah, that's bad too.
1569
01:14:34,233 --> 01:14:36,867
Now what, why didn't
we do it peacefully,
1570
01:14:36,867 --> 01:14:38,467
the way other countries did?
1571
01:14:38,467 --> 01:14:42,367
Why did we go to war over it?
1572
01:14:42,367 --> 01:14:45,633
So those issues are
political issues that don't
1573
01:14:45,633 --> 01:14:47,333
have anything to do
with the rightness
1574
01:14:47,333 --> 01:14:49,567
or wrongness of slavery.
1575
01:14:49,567 --> 01:14:52,433
- We have the ability
to change this.
1576
01:14:52,433 --> 01:14:54,300
And to change this
1577
01:14:55,433 --> 01:14:59,800
without a war fought
in the streets.
1578
01:15:00,733 --> 01:15:02,067
We have the ability to change.
1579
01:15:02,067 --> 01:15:04,267
- The Civil War wasn't
a just war, then?
1580
01:15:04,267 --> 01:15:06,900
- The Civil War was
absolutely a just war.
1581
01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:09,300
- So how much more
with abortion?
1582
01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:11,800
- We have the ability
to change this,
1583
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,433
directly, simply by
standing up and engaging.
1584
01:15:16,433 --> 01:15:17,267
- [Interviewer] So
you're not willing to go
1585
01:15:17,267 --> 01:15:19,033
to war for the unborn?
1586
01:15:20,633 --> 01:15:22,300
- Where they say if
you don't want to do it
1587
01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:24,933
our way, which is killing
600 thousand people.
1588
01:15:26,667 --> 01:15:30,633
Take all the money
we spent on that war
1589
01:15:30,633 --> 01:15:33,967
and just buy all the
slaves for pity's sake,
1590
01:15:33,967 --> 01:15:36,467
and set them free, you know,
1591
01:15:36,467 --> 01:15:38,733
why the bloodshed?
1592
01:15:38,733 --> 01:15:40,533
Why do you have to have blood?
1593
01:15:40,533 --> 01:15:43,467
Well, if I object to the blood,
1594
01:15:43,467 --> 01:15:46,033
if I object to settling
that kind of dispute
1595
01:15:46,033 --> 01:15:48,800
the way not other
nation did, then why
1596
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,500
all of a sudden am I accused of
1597
01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:55,600
defending the
institution of slavery,
1598
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,533
which I want to get
rid of peacefully?
1599
01:15:58,533 --> 01:16:02,200
- We should start
with Christians and
1600
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,833
with everyone who values life,
1601
01:16:03,833 --> 01:16:06,400
standing up and
speaking out together.
1602
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,333
- This is the difference
between the conservative
1603
01:16:08,333 --> 01:16:10,367
mindset and the liberal mindset.
1604
01:16:10,367 --> 01:16:12,833
The conservative
thinks always in terms
1605
01:16:12,833 --> 01:16:17,067
of trade offs, the liberal
thinks in terms of solutions.
1606
01:16:17,067 --> 01:16:19,467
The liberal wants solutions.
1607
01:16:19,467 --> 01:16:20,900
And he doesn't want
to think in terms
1608
01:16:20,900 --> 01:16:23,000
of trade offs, he
doesn't want to think
1609
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,967
that there's ever
a price tag for
1610
01:16:24,967 --> 01:16:27,267
what he's advocating, he wants
1611
01:16:27,267 --> 01:16:29,833
free chocolate
milk for everybody.
1612
01:16:31,733 --> 01:16:34,200
(shouting)
1613
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,467
- Is this what you
want to remember,
1614
01:16:35,467 --> 01:16:38,467
that you spit at, the
children look at you,
1615
01:16:38,467 --> 01:16:40,000
and realize that
you're bigots and you
1616
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,533
discriminate against people.
1617
01:16:41,533 --> 01:16:42,700
- And why can't we have it?
1618
01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:44,367
Why can't we just vote for it?
1619
01:16:44,367 --> 01:16:45,567
Right?
1620
01:16:45,567 --> 01:16:47,233
Well, because the
world's not that way.
1621
01:16:47,233 --> 01:16:49,267
- The federal department of
health and human services
1622
01:16:49,267 --> 01:16:51,200
overturned Medicare's
blanket ban on
1623
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,967
sex reassignment surgery.
1624
01:16:52,967 --> 01:16:57,100
- Trans medicine is a medically
necessary intervention.
1625
01:16:57,100 --> 01:16:58,467
- [Voiceover] Just last
week, Massachusetts
1626
01:16:58,467 --> 01:17:00,133
became the third state
in the country to
1627
01:17:00,133 --> 01:17:03,000
cover transgender
healthcare under Medicaid.
1628
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,467
- The Civil War was a
series of trade offs and
1629
01:17:06,467 --> 01:17:09,600
I would argue that it was
a bad set of trade offs.
1630
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,533
- [Voiceover] Gay
is the new black.
1631
01:17:12,533 --> 01:17:14,467
- The definition of
civil rights, the word
1632
01:17:14,467 --> 01:17:16,433
civil rights is about
equal rights for all,
1633
01:17:16,433 --> 01:17:18,567
regardless of gender,
sexual orientation, race,
1634
01:17:18,567 --> 01:17:21,000
religion, and
Barack Obama himself
1635
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,233
has defined this as
a civil rights issue.
1636
01:17:23,233 --> 01:17:25,133
So if he can say
it's civil rights,
1637
01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:26,733
then I can say
it's civil rights.
1638
01:17:26,733 --> 01:17:29,567
- From Seneca Falls
to Selma to Stonewall,
1639
01:17:29,567 --> 01:17:32,133
that's how we
achieved gay rights.
1640
01:17:32,133 --> 01:17:35,767
That's how we've made
this union more perfect.
1641
01:17:35,767 --> 01:17:38,333
- We traded things we
aught not to have traded.
1642
01:17:38,333 --> 01:17:39,800
And we're still paying for it.
1643
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,567
That's my argument.
1644
01:17:41,567 --> 01:17:45,367
That's not to say,
that I think that
1645
01:17:45,367 --> 01:17:48,533
the elimination of
slavery was a bad thing.
1646
01:17:48,533 --> 01:17:52,100
Slavery is gone,
and good riddance.
1647
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:54,067
- This transition
has been harder on me
1648
01:17:54,067 --> 01:17:56,167
than anything I could imagine.
1649
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:01,067
- I'm as pro life as
you can possibly be.
1650
01:18:01,067 --> 01:18:03,800
- It's all just a
matter of items.
1651
01:18:07,067 --> 01:18:09,167
- Believe that abortion
aught to be against the law.
1652
01:18:09,167 --> 01:18:10,167
- You know, you can imagine what
1653
01:18:10,167 --> 01:18:11,367
they would run with this,
1654
01:18:11,367 --> 01:18:12,600
"they're selling body
parts," you know.
1655
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:13,633
- [Interviewer] What'd
keep your lab happy?
1656
01:18:13,633 --> 01:18:15,067
- Another fifty livers a week.
1657
01:18:17,667 --> 01:18:20,200
- I believe that the
lives of the unborn
1658
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,333
should be protected.
1659
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,000
- Now, do I want to
kill a million people
1660
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:43,233
in order to achieve
a pro life objective?
1661
01:18:43,233 --> 01:18:45,267
If I had a button
in front of me,
1662
01:18:45,267 --> 01:18:49,433
and I push that
button, and if I push
1663
01:18:49,433 --> 01:18:52,167
that button, we're
going to have the great
1664
01:18:52,167 --> 01:18:54,633
North American war, and
a million people are
1665
01:18:54,633 --> 01:18:57,400
going to die, after
which there will be no
1666
01:18:59,133 --> 01:19:01,867
abortion on demand, okay,
1667
01:19:01,867 --> 01:19:04,533
that's the kind of trade
off that I'm talking about.
1668
01:19:04,533 --> 01:19:07,033
Nobody was running
the calculus before
1669
01:19:07,033 --> 01:19:08,800
the war between
the states, saying,
1670
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,467
well, we're going to
kill 600 thousand people,
1671
01:19:11,467 --> 01:19:12,967
that's not how wars develop.
1672
01:19:12,967 --> 01:19:14,200
That's not how they go.
1673
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,300
You get in, and
then when you're in,
1674
01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:17,567
you're stuck.
1675
01:19:17,567 --> 01:19:19,833
- [Crowd] A safe
place for everyone.
1676
01:19:19,833 --> 01:19:22,533
We respect free speech.
1677
01:19:22,533 --> 01:19:25,233
This is hate speech!
1678
01:19:25,233 --> 01:19:27,933
Get off our campus!
1679
01:19:29,067 --> 01:19:32,333
Racist, sexist, go away.
1680
01:19:32,333 --> 01:19:37,333
Racist, sexist, anti gay,
Douglas Wilson go away.
1681
01:19:50,333 --> 01:19:54,667
(cheering)
1682
01:20:12,367 --> 01:20:14,567
- The verb, to
tolerate, is a verb
1683
01:20:14,567 --> 01:20:16,433
that requires a direct object.
1684
01:20:16,433 --> 01:20:19,133
Everything boils
down not to whether
1685
01:20:19,133 --> 01:20:21,633
you tolerate, but
what you tolerate.
1686
01:20:21,633 --> 01:20:24,167
And conversely,
it also boils down
1687
01:20:24,167 --> 01:20:26,333
to what you will not tolerate.
1688
01:20:26,333 --> 01:20:29,133
Every society
tolerates and every
1689
01:20:29,133 --> 01:20:31,600
society refuses to tolerate.
1690
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,733
Every subculture
tolerates some things,
1691
01:20:34,733 --> 01:20:37,533
and refuses to tolerate others.
1692
01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:40,033
Every society,
for example, keeps
1693
01:20:40,033 --> 01:20:43,267
some things and throws
other things away.
1694
01:20:43,267 --> 01:20:45,767
So we're here at the
dump, this is the
1695
01:20:45,767 --> 01:20:49,667
stuff that society, this
town, is throwing away,
1696
01:20:49,667 --> 01:20:51,867
and there's a bunch
of stuff in town that
1697
01:20:51,867 --> 01:20:53,100
they're not throwing away.
1698
01:20:53,100 --> 01:20:55,033
Everybody keeps
stuff and everybody
1699
01:20:55,033 --> 01:20:56,567
throws stuff away.
1700
01:20:56,567 --> 01:20:58,633
The only question before us is
1701
01:20:58,633 --> 01:21:01,267
what do you keep and
what do you throw away?
1702
01:21:01,267 --> 01:21:04,700
What do you hang on to
and what do you jettison?
1703
01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:08,533
Our culture
currently is adopting
1704
01:21:08,533 --> 01:21:11,067
purchasing, bringing
home, taking into their
1705
01:21:11,067 --> 01:21:14,500
living rooms a novel
approach to marriage,
1706
01:21:14,500 --> 01:21:18,267
family, culture,
society, they've got this
1707
01:21:18,267 --> 01:21:21,400
new thing that they've
set up in their homes,
1708
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,067
and because they're doing that,
1709
01:21:24,067 --> 01:21:26,500
they are engaged
in throwing away
1710
01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:29,633
their Christian heritage,
their Christian legacy.
1711
01:21:29,633 --> 01:21:31,267
If you keep one
thing, you have to
1712
01:21:31,267 --> 01:21:33,900
throw another thing
away, and flip it around,
1713
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:36,500
you can't keep everything.
1714
01:21:36,500 --> 01:21:40,400
A society that kept
everything is a society
1715
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,333
that would be a
dump, it would be
1716
01:21:42,333 --> 01:21:44,433
just a random pile of things.
1717
01:21:44,433 --> 01:21:46,333
You've got to sort,
you've got to select,
1718
01:21:46,333 --> 01:21:48,267
you've got to throw
some things away,
1719
01:21:48,267 --> 01:21:49,767
and keep other things.
1720
01:21:49,767 --> 01:21:50,833
Now, one of the
things that people
1721
01:21:50,833 --> 01:21:52,133
don't realize, and I'm sure this
1722
01:21:52,133 --> 01:21:54,067
happens at the
dump all the time,
1723
01:21:54,067 --> 01:21:57,733
they throw things
away and then later
1724
01:21:57,733 --> 01:21:59,533
they realize something
that was precious
1725
01:21:59,533 --> 01:22:01,500
to them is missing, maybe it got
1726
01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:04,267
dumped into the bag and maybe
1727
01:22:04,267 --> 01:22:06,367
I accidentally, I
lost my wedding ring,
1728
01:22:06,367 --> 01:22:08,867
or you know, that sort of thing.
1729
01:22:08,867 --> 01:22:12,800
And so they say, oh
no, I threw something
1730
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,033
away that I didn't
mean to throw away.
1731
01:22:15,033 --> 01:22:19,133
Now, in our time, in this era,
1732
01:22:19,133 --> 01:22:22,000
we are self consciously
rejecting our
1733
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,567
explicit Christian heritage.
1734
01:22:24,567 --> 01:22:26,533
What we're throwing
away that we don't
1735
01:22:26,533 --> 01:22:29,567
know we're throwing
away, is our liberty.
1736
01:22:29,567 --> 01:22:31,400
We're throwing away our
liberty, we're throwing
1737
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,567
away our ability
to speak freely,
1738
01:22:33,567 --> 01:22:37,033
we're throwing away our
right to free speech.
1739
01:22:37,033 --> 01:22:39,300
We didn't know that that
was in the garbage bag,
1740
01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:40,800
we didn't know that
we shook that off
1741
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,100
when we brushed off all
our Christian commitments.
1742
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:45,733
We didn't know that
certain things were
1743
01:22:45,733 --> 01:22:47,167
going to go with it.
1744
01:22:47,167 --> 01:22:50,400
So, and this is of
interest to non-Christians
1745
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,733
as well, free speech, the
liberty of conscience,
1746
01:22:54,733 --> 01:22:59,233
having a right to certain
fundamental religious
1747
01:22:59,233 --> 01:23:03,200
convictions, that right
is a right that Christians
1748
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,500
developed, that came out
of Christian societies.
1749
01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:08,133
It's not something that happened
1750
01:23:08,133 --> 01:23:10,100
all by itself, if you
look at the history
1751
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:12,033
of the world, where did
the right of free speech
1752
01:23:12,033 --> 01:23:16,233
develop, where has
it been established,
1753
01:23:16,233 --> 01:23:19,867
protected, and guarded for
as long as it has been?
1754
01:23:19,867 --> 01:23:22,900
Well, overwhelmingly,
in Christian societies.
1755
01:23:22,900 --> 01:23:25,167
And that's why it's no accident
1756
01:23:25,167 --> 01:23:28,400
when we are seeing this explicit
1757
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,333
rejection of the
Christian faith,
1758
01:23:31,333 --> 01:23:33,633
we're seeing almost
simultaneously
1759
01:23:33,633 --> 01:23:37,833
the jailing of
county clerks who's
1760
01:23:37,833 --> 01:23:42,067
conscience forbids them to issue
1761
01:23:42,067 --> 01:23:47,067
a license, we've seen bakers
fined 135 thousand dollars,
1762
01:23:48,133 --> 01:23:49,167
in the public
sector, county clerk,
1763
01:23:49,167 --> 01:23:51,867
in the private sector, florists,
1764
01:23:51,867 --> 01:23:56,333
photographers,
videographers, bakers,
1765
01:23:56,333 --> 01:23:58,567
saying, you must conform.
1766
01:23:58,567 --> 01:24:00,367
So what they're doing,
what's happening
1767
01:24:00,367 --> 01:24:04,233
is we've adopted this new
commitment to egalitarianism
1768
01:24:04,233 --> 01:24:06,833
and same sex marriage,
and then as a
1769
01:24:06,833 --> 01:24:10,000
absolute necessity,
we are throwing away
1770
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,500
liberty of conscience,
the right to free speech,
1771
01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:15,433
and all these things
liberals claim
1772
01:24:15,433 --> 01:24:16,767
are precious to them.
1773
01:24:16,767 --> 01:24:17,967
Well I'm sorry.
1774
01:24:17,967 --> 01:24:19,233
You can't take your
chainsaw to the
1775
01:24:19,233 --> 01:24:21,900
orchard, and then
go out in the fall
1776
01:24:21,900 --> 01:24:23,833
and ask, where are my apples?
1777
01:24:23,833 --> 01:24:26,067
The whole idea of
liberty of conscience
1778
01:24:26,067 --> 01:24:29,433
is a distinctively
Christian development.
1779
01:24:29,433 --> 01:24:33,700
When the first Amendment
was established and
1780
01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:38,133
put into the US Constitution,
that was America,
1781
01:24:38,133 --> 01:24:42,100
at that time, was not
a secularist society.
1782
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:44,500
It was overwhelmingly Christian,
1783
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:47,633
Protestant, and for the
most part, Calvinistic.
1784
01:24:47,633 --> 01:24:50,000
So basically, I would
say what you can
1785
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,533
expect if Christians
prevail in the future,
1786
01:24:54,533 --> 01:24:58,700
you can expect largely what
you got the first time.
1787
01:24:58,700 --> 01:24:59,800
Liberty.
1788
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,833
Christians love liberty.
1789
01:25:01,833 --> 01:25:04,033
And the foundation
of that liberty
1790
01:25:04,033 --> 01:25:06,933
was proclaimed, I
think, at the very
1791
01:25:06,933 --> 01:25:09,400
first when the
lord Jesus appeared
1792
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,533
to Mary Magdalene
after the resurrection.
1793
01:25:11,533 --> 01:25:13,100
That's the foundation
of liberty.
1794
01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:14,900
Christ rose from the dead.
1795
01:25:14,900 --> 01:25:16,867
If Christ rose from
the dead, everything
1796
01:25:16,867 --> 01:25:19,000
is transformed, if
Christ didn't come back
1797
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,533
from the dead, then
we're just a bunch
1798
01:25:21,533 --> 01:25:23,167
of atoms colliding
into each other
1799
01:25:23,167 --> 01:25:28,167
and the strongest at the top can
1800
01:25:29,033 --> 01:25:30,633
squash people as it suits them.
1801
01:25:30,633 --> 01:25:33,833
As it fits with their
notions of public order.
1802
01:25:33,833 --> 01:25:35,700
If I'm not created
in the image of God,
1803
01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:36,833
certain things follow.
1804
01:25:36,833 --> 01:25:38,800
If my atheist neighbor
is not created
1805
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,233
in the image of God,
certain things follow.
1806
01:25:41,233 --> 01:25:43,967
And over time, men
act in accordance
1807
01:25:43,967 --> 01:25:46,300
with their collective
convictions.
1808
01:25:46,300 --> 01:25:47,567
You've seen those
bumper stickers,
1809
01:25:47,567 --> 01:25:49,833
if you can read this,
thank a teacher,
1810
01:25:49,833 --> 01:25:51,967
if you've every exercised
your first Amendment
1811
01:25:51,967 --> 01:25:53,900
rights, thank a Christian.
1812
01:25:53,900 --> 01:25:56,833
Thank a Bible
believing Christian.
1813
01:25:56,833 --> 01:25:58,133
We invented it.
1814
01:25:58,133 --> 01:26:01,367
The first Amendment
is our contribution.
1815
01:26:01,367 --> 01:26:06,133
And so you can't come
in late in the day
1816
01:26:06,133 --> 01:26:09,267
and pretend we are the
enemies of free speech,
1817
01:26:09,267 --> 01:26:11,000
when we are the ones who put it
1818
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,567
on the map.
1819
01:26:41,167 --> 01:26:42,300
- [Interviewer] Now, you don't
believe the world's coming
1820
01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:43,533
to an end anytime soon?
1821
01:26:43,533 --> 01:26:45,967
- No, I think in the
long run, we win.
1822
01:26:47,133 --> 01:26:48,400
- [Interviewer] Is that
why you're optimistic?
1823
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,733
- Yes, I'm optimistic,
I believe that God
1824
01:26:50,733 --> 01:26:52,767
has given promises
that the world
1825
01:26:52,767 --> 01:26:55,167
will be successfully evangelized
1826
01:26:55,167 --> 01:26:57,000
and I believe that
in the long run
1827
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,967
stupidity never works.
1828
01:26:58,967 --> 01:27:00,967
So I believe that
the great commission
1829
01:27:00,967 --> 01:27:02,900
will be successfully fulfilled,
1830
01:27:02,900 --> 01:27:04,933
all the nations of
men will be discipled,
1831
01:27:04,933 --> 01:27:06,533
they will be baptized,
they will be taught
1832
01:27:06,533 --> 01:27:08,233
obedience to Jesus Christ.
1833
01:27:09,067 --> 01:27:14,067
(bold music)
1834
01:27:32,733 --> 01:27:34,567
Picture a soldier
pinned down behind
1835
01:27:34,567 --> 01:27:37,200
a sand dune on Normandy Beach.
1836
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,833
He's just landed, he's behind
1837
01:27:38,833 --> 01:27:41,867
a sand dune, he
can't get to the next
1838
01:27:41,867 --> 01:27:44,100
sand dune, he can't
achieve his next
1839
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:46,500
objective because
he's pinned down by
1840
01:27:46,500 --> 01:27:49,000
enemy fire, he's just
stuck, and he's in
1841
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,533
a bad jam.
1842
01:27:58,933 --> 01:28:01,233
Suppose that at this
moment, we'll make
1843
01:28:01,233 --> 01:28:04,200
the illustration ludicrous,
that a stray sheet of paper
1844
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:09,200
from Eisenhower's
invasion plans of Europe
1845
01:28:10,067 --> 01:28:11,000
got detached from the notebook
1846
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:12,900
and is blowing down the beach,
1847
01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:14,900
and it lands on
this soldier, and he
1848
01:28:14,900 --> 01:28:17,367
looks at it, and says,
General Eisenhower,
1849
01:28:17,367 --> 01:28:20,533
in the orders
Eisenhower to establish
1850
01:28:20,533 --> 01:28:22,100
a beach head on the
continent of Europe
1851
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:24,400
and to take Berlin.
1852
01:28:46,667 --> 01:28:49,367
And he looks at
these orders, and he
1853
01:28:49,367 --> 01:28:52,900
can't even get past
his own sand dune.
1854
01:28:52,900 --> 01:28:56,133
He could be tempted to
despair, on the one hand,
1855
01:28:56,133 --> 01:28:59,800
because how can we do this
when I can't even do that?
1856
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,033
But he could also be, if he's
thinking about it rightly,
1857
01:29:03,033 --> 01:29:05,667
he could be greatly
encouraged and say,
1858
01:29:05,667 --> 01:29:09,367
however stuck I am,
there are grand forces
1859
01:29:09,367 --> 01:29:10,667
in front of me.
1860
01:29:10,667 --> 01:29:12,067
However stuck I
am, there are whole
1861
01:29:12,067 --> 01:29:14,667
armies in collision,
I'm just one small
1862
01:29:14,667 --> 01:29:17,000
part of the puzzle,
I'm just one small
1863
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,833
part of this, the
only thing I can do,
1864
01:29:18,833 --> 01:29:20,800
is be faithful at
my post, be faithful
1865
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,200
where I am, and
if I am, then I'll
1866
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,000
just leave the results
to the sovereign god.
1867
01:29:46,833 --> 01:29:48,067
And that's how I feel.
1868
01:29:48,067 --> 01:29:49,933
There are times
when I feel stuck
1869
01:29:49,933 --> 01:29:52,100
behind my sand dune.
1870
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:53,700
There are times
when I feel like,
1871
01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:55,500
why can't we do more, why can't
1872
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:57,867
we communicate more effectively,
1873
01:29:57,867 --> 01:29:59,633
why can't we get this done.
1874
01:29:59,633 --> 01:30:02,767
And then a page
of Mathew 28 blows
1875
01:30:02,767 --> 01:30:05,667
down the beach, all
authority on Heaven and Earth
1876
01:30:05,667 --> 01:30:08,167
is given to me, Jesus
said, therefore go disciple
1877
01:30:08,167 --> 01:30:10,300
the nations, baptizing
them, teaching them to
1878
01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:12,400
obey all that I've commanded.
1879
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,200
The Christian
faith is a religion
1880
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,667
of world conquest.
1881
01:30:31,967 --> 01:30:33,833
It's nothing short of that.
1882
01:30:33,833 --> 01:30:36,367
The Christian faith is a
religion of world conquest
1883
01:30:36,367 --> 01:30:39,200
not by arms, not
by carnal weapons,
1884
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:43,267
but by preaching the gospel,
declaring the gospel,
1885
01:30:43,267 --> 01:30:46,567
and by not falling
all over yourself
1886
01:30:46,567 --> 01:30:51,167
to apologize for
God's hard edged
1887
01:30:51,167 --> 01:30:54,233
definitions of sin,
because the Bible says
1888
01:30:54,233 --> 01:30:55,867
you evangelize the
world by preaching
1889
01:30:55,867 --> 01:31:00,233
repentance, repentance of
sin, and belief in Jesus.
1890
01:31:00,233 --> 01:31:02,100
You repent of your
sins, you turn
1891
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:03,833
away from your
sins, and you turn
1892
01:31:03,833 --> 01:31:05,600
to Jesus Christ.
1893
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,033
Christian preachers
have to be allowed
1894
01:31:16,033 --> 01:31:19,367
to define that sin
out of the Bible.
1895
01:31:19,367 --> 01:31:22,667
That sin is self absorption,
self centeredness,
1896
01:31:22,667 --> 01:31:26,533
lust, covetousness,
malice, envy,
1897
01:31:26,533 --> 01:31:30,100
hatred, all these
things, and the Bible
1898
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:32,633
defines homosexual sin
as a very grievous,
1899
01:31:32,633 --> 01:31:35,533
very serious sin, and
it's one of the things
1900
01:31:35,533 --> 01:31:37,100
that people have
to turn away from
1901
01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:40,000
in repentance if they
want to be saved.
1902
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,667
The apostle Paul
lists homosexual sins
1903
01:31:42,667 --> 01:31:46,533
in Corinthians
right among a couple
1904
01:31:46,533 --> 01:31:48,567
words for homosexual behavior
1905
01:31:48,567 --> 01:31:50,367
in the middle of a
list of other sins,
1906
01:31:50,367 --> 01:31:52,433
and he says people
who live this way
1907
01:31:52,433 --> 01:31:54,633
will not inherit
the kingdom of God.
1908
01:31:54,633 --> 01:31:56,667
So we're preaching
the kingdom of God,
1909
01:31:56,667 --> 01:31:58,800
we have to preach
repentance from sin,
1910
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,167
and faith in Jesus.
1911
01:32:00,167 --> 01:32:05,067
And there are too many
Christians too ready
1912
01:32:05,067 --> 01:32:07,733
to capitulate on these
definitions of what
1913
01:32:07,733 --> 01:32:11,000
sin it, without
realizing they've just,
1914
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,433
they say, well let's
not get into politics,
1915
01:32:13,433 --> 01:32:15,233
let's just emphasize the gospel,
1916
01:32:15,233 --> 01:32:18,033
not realizing that
they've just abandoned
1917
01:32:18,033 --> 01:32:20,833
50 percent of what
gospel preachers
1918
01:32:20,833 --> 01:32:22,633
are required to proclaim.
1919
01:32:22,633 --> 01:32:24,967
Repentance and then faith.
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