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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:43,000 - And distinct honor to introduce the 2 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,533 44th President of the United States of America, 3 00:00:47,533 --> 00:00:51,000 Barack H. Obama. 4 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,867 (cheering) 5 00:01:15,433 --> 00:01:16,867 - Thank you. 6 00:01:16,867 --> 00:01:21,867 (crowd chanting) 7 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:34,167 Thank you so much. 8 00:01:34,167 --> 00:01:39,167 Vice President Biden, Mr. Chief Justice, 9 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:43,167 members of the United States Congress, 10 00:01:43,167 --> 00:01:47,100 distinguished guests, and fellow citizens. 11 00:01:50,133 --> 00:01:53,300 Each time we gather to inaugurate a president, 12 00:01:54,767 --> 00:01:58,200 we bear witness to the enduring strength 13 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,000 of our Constitution. 14 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:21,300 (guitar music) 15 00:02:52,700 --> 00:02:54,033 - [Voiceover] I think there's a lot happening here 16 00:02:54,033 --> 00:02:55,433 in front of our very eyes that 17 00:02:55,433 --> 00:02:58,033 happens to be very positive. 18 00:02:59,333 --> 00:03:01,600 And many people are seeing that themselves. 19 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,767 And the opportunity here, 20 00:03:07,567 --> 00:03:11,100 we are in the midst here of a profoundly 21 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:12,800 monumental opportunity. 22 00:03:14,967 --> 00:03:16,967 That nobody could have predicted, 23 00:03:16,967 --> 00:03:18,967 that everybody, 24 00:03:18,967 --> 00:03:21,833 I can remember people calling year rush, 25 00:03:21,833 --> 00:03:23,167 what do you think it is that's going to be 26 00:03:23,167 --> 00:03:24,100 the tipping point? 27 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:25,333 There has to be a tipping point, 28 00:03:25,333 --> 00:03:26,833 at some point people are going to stand up 29 00:03:26,833 --> 00:03:28,467 and say, I've had it, I'm not putting up with it anymore. 30 00:03:28,467 --> 00:03:29,900 I had no idea, I said. 31 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:31,967 It's unpredictable, who knows 32 00:03:31,967 --> 00:03:33,033 what the future's going to be. 33 00:03:33,033 --> 00:03:35,133 Who knows where the bottom is? 34 00:03:35,133 --> 00:03:37,900 Who knows where the event that 35 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:40,433 causes people to stand up and say, 36 00:03:40,433 --> 00:03:42,800 screw this, no more, 37 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,033 and reject all this stuff from the left. 38 00:03:46,867 --> 00:03:48,467 We could be witnessing it. 39 00:03:49,867 --> 00:03:51,067 Time will tell. 40 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:59,300 (rally shouting) 41 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:02,733 - [Crowd] You believe! 42 00:04:02,733 --> 00:04:05,367 Slavery is ideal! 43 00:04:05,367 --> 00:04:08,167 Women are inferior! 44 00:04:08,167 --> 00:04:10,600 Gays deserve! 45 00:04:12,267 --> 00:04:15,533 We reject homophobia! 46 00:04:15,533 --> 00:04:17,433 We respect free speech! 47 00:04:17,433 --> 00:04:20,167 This is hate speech! 48 00:04:20,167 --> 00:04:22,533 Get off our campus! 49 00:04:26,867 --> 00:04:28,000 - The charges. 50 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,933 You're racist, 51 00:04:29,933 --> 00:04:31,200 - [Crowd] Racist, sexist! 52 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:33,933 - You're a sexist. 53 00:04:33,933 --> 00:04:36,300 - [Crowd] Douglas Wilson go away! 54 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:37,600 - And you're anti gay. 55 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,000 (cheering) 56 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Racist, sexist, anti gay, Douglas Wilson go away. 57 00:04:46,467 --> 00:04:47,633 - Right. 58 00:04:47,633 --> 00:04:49,833 And it's stated in such a way as to rhyme. 59 00:04:56,700 --> 00:05:01,433 (cheering) 60 00:05:02,633 --> 00:05:04,333 - Okay, I just want to kind of reiterate 61 00:05:04,333 --> 00:05:07,667 that the idea behind this protest is peace, 62 00:05:07,667 --> 00:05:09,733 if you guys want to get violent, 63 00:05:09,733 --> 00:05:11,733 that's on you, you will probably 64 00:05:11,733 --> 00:05:14,533 get taken out by the police. 65 00:05:14,533 --> 00:05:16,867 Let's make an example of this lovely 66 00:05:16,867 --> 00:05:19,233 sign that just showed up. 67 00:05:19,233 --> 00:05:22,900 We want to stand on the side of love, not war. 68 00:05:22,900 --> 00:05:26,300 Kind of cliche, but let's kind of stay peaceful. 69 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:27,233 Thank you. 70 00:05:27,233 --> 00:05:28,433 - The story behind me winding up 71 00:05:28,433 --> 00:05:31,133 at Bloomington is a very straightforward one. 72 00:05:31,133 --> 00:05:33,833 I've got some friends there who have, 73 00:05:33,833 --> 00:05:35,467 a pastor of a church who invited, 74 00:05:35,467 --> 00:05:38,633 their women's group invited my wife Nancy 75 00:05:38,633 --> 00:05:42,133 to speak at a lady's retreat that their 76 00:05:42,133 --> 00:05:44,667 church was sponsoring, and Nancy was 77 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:46,233 happy to go, but one of the things 78 00:05:46,233 --> 00:05:48,200 Nancy and I do is we don't, 79 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,867 Nancy doesn't go often do events by herself, 80 00:05:50,867 --> 00:05:52,900 and so I was tagging along, my friend thought, 81 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:54,733 well, hey, as long as Doug's here, 82 00:05:54,733 --> 00:05:55,967 let's do an event. 83 00:05:55,967 --> 00:05:57,267 So they put together an event for me to speak 84 00:05:57,267 --> 00:06:01,500 for college outreach sort of thing. 85 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:04,967 The topic was sexual by design. 86 00:06:04,967 --> 00:06:06,967 And so that was advertised, and then 87 00:06:06,967 --> 00:06:09,133 the intoleristas, as I call them, 88 00:06:09,133 --> 00:06:10,500 got wind of it and they started 89 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:15,200 to mobilize and, in order to oppose it, 90 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,067 and it turned into what I call a sociological event. 91 00:06:19,067 --> 00:06:23,667 - [Crowd] Sing in the rain, just sing in the rain. 92 00:06:23,667 --> 00:06:26,533 What glorious feeling. 93 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,467 Arms up! 94 00:06:33,467 --> 00:06:34,700 Thumbs up! 95 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:36,233 - We're at a new time in terms of student 96 00:06:36,233 --> 00:06:38,067 activism, we have groups organizing, 97 00:06:38,067 --> 00:06:41,633 we have individuals active at organizing, 98 00:06:41,633 --> 00:06:43,400 and we have social media, which of course 99 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,400 gives people all sorts of opportunities 100 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,167 to get things together, so it's going 101 00:06:48,167 --> 00:06:49,733 to be a three ring circus tonight. 102 00:06:49,733 --> 00:06:50,900 - Quite honestly, my initial reaction 103 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:53,367 was, I hope nobody goes to this. 104 00:06:55,867 --> 00:06:58,467 We don't need any more 105 00:06:58,467 --> 00:07:01,567 so called Christian spokespeople 106 00:07:01,567 --> 00:07:03,633 for hate, and that's, everything 107 00:07:03,633 --> 00:07:05,433 I'm reading about him suggests to me 108 00:07:05,433 --> 00:07:09,133 that he's doing all this in the name of religion, 109 00:07:09,133 --> 00:07:11,067 and he's here at the Kinsey Institute, 110 00:07:11,067 --> 00:07:13,867 or the campus where the Kinsey Institute, 111 00:07:13,867 --> 00:07:15,300 dip on Kinsey. 112 00:07:15,300 --> 00:07:19,267 - Kinsey was the original American dirty bird. 113 00:07:19,267 --> 00:07:22,167 He put a, quote on quote, scientific 114 00:07:22,167 --> 00:07:27,167 treatment of sex slash perversion on the map, 115 00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:30,367 he's the one to whom we are indebted 116 00:07:30,367 --> 00:07:33,200 for the apparently immortal figure that 117 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,733 10 percent of the human population 118 00:07:35,733 --> 00:07:37,333 is homosexual, for example. 119 00:07:37,333 --> 00:07:41,300 Kinsey was a scientist, but whose specialty was 120 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:44,967 wasps, and he got into human sexuality 121 00:07:44,967 --> 00:07:48,567 and published, published the results of 122 00:07:48,567 --> 00:07:50,733 his finding, quote on quote findings, 123 00:07:50,733 --> 00:07:53,033 you have to use quotation marks around everything, 124 00:07:53,033 --> 00:07:54,333 his findings. 125 00:07:54,333 --> 00:07:57,400 A lot of his data was coming from 126 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,767 prisoner, you know, prisoners and 127 00:07:59,767 --> 00:08:02,400 people who were not a representative 128 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,267 sampling of what was actually going on 129 00:08:04,267 --> 00:08:05,733 out in the population. 130 00:08:05,733 --> 00:08:08,500 So what he did is he gave a scientific 131 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:13,000 veneer to the acceptability of sexual perversion. 132 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,267 (shouting) 133 00:08:17,267 --> 00:08:21,067 - Who Kinsey was, and what he taught, 134 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,200 did you feel that what you experienced at IU, 135 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,467 was indicative, was downstream 136 00:08:47,467 --> 00:08:50,267 of something that you feel he helped create? 137 00:08:50,267 --> 00:08:51,767 - Absolutely. 138 00:08:51,767 --> 00:08:55,800 He helped create the America in which that 139 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,133 behavior that was on display in Bloomington, 140 00:08:59,133 --> 00:09:01,300 was even a possibility. 141 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:04,433 Without the work of people like Kinsey, 142 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:08,933 that set of behaviors was an impossibility. 143 00:09:08,933 --> 00:09:11,067 - And how would you define that set of behaviors? 144 00:09:11,067 --> 00:09:15,533 - Lawless, antinomian, the idea that if it feels good, 145 00:09:15,533 --> 00:09:18,133 as countless songs have told us to do, 146 00:09:18,133 --> 00:09:19,767 do it, if it feels good do it. 147 00:09:19,767 --> 00:09:21,733 I am not to allow any authority 148 00:09:21,733 --> 00:09:25,867 from outside me tell me that this 149 00:09:25,867 --> 00:09:29,167 particular sexual pleasure is wrong, 150 00:09:29,167 --> 00:09:31,900 or wrong headed, or demented, or perverted. 151 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:34,700 If it pleases you, if you like it, 152 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:36,900 if you're attracted to it, then nothing can be 153 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:40,600 said against it from outside your 154 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,600 set of nerves, your set of sexual responses. 155 00:09:46,833 --> 00:09:49,133 - He has a right to be here, and I'm very 156 00:09:49,133 --> 00:09:51,733 hopeful that those who are responding 157 00:09:51,733 --> 00:09:55,300 will do so respectfully, but I think he needs 158 00:09:55,300 --> 00:09:56,767 to know there are many people, 159 00:09:56,767 --> 00:09:59,567 including many people who claim to be Christian, 160 00:09:59,567 --> 00:10:04,567 who feel he's very misguided in his teachings. 161 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:08,767 So, this is my shirt for tonight. 162 00:10:08,767 --> 00:10:11,233 We happen to have a t-shirt display 163 00:10:11,233 --> 00:10:13,333 happening here right now, and I thought 164 00:10:13,333 --> 00:10:15,600 I would wear this. 165 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:19,433 In part because I think Jesus had a sense of humor 166 00:10:19,433 --> 00:10:21,533 and I think if he were with us tonight, 167 00:10:21,533 --> 00:10:25,100 he'd probably be walking among the students 168 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:27,700 who are upset about someone who 169 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:29,867 seems so self righteous and so sure of 170 00:10:29,867 --> 00:10:34,467 himself and his theories, so I'd like 171 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:37,167 to take a stand from my perspective 172 00:10:37,167 --> 00:10:40,500 on what I think Jesus would be saying about that. 173 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:43,067 - [Voiceover] So you, are you like the one putting 174 00:10:43,067 --> 00:10:45,400 this whole thing together? 175 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,700 - I hesitate to take credit for it 176 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:48,800 because I'm so humble. 177 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,133 - [Voiceover] I don't really know if there's 178 00:10:50,133 --> 00:10:51,400 anything out there. 179 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,200 - If you want to call me the leader, you can. 180 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,367 - Ignore religion for the most part. 181 00:10:55,367 --> 00:10:56,867 - I mean, if religion's your thing, 182 00:10:56,867 --> 00:10:58,700 cool, skateboarding's my thing. 183 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:00,033 - I joke around and I say, like, 184 00:11:00,033 --> 00:11:01,233 I'm a gay man at heart. 185 00:11:01,233 --> 00:11:06,100 - I have a life, and I am born to 186 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:07,933 live our my life however I see fit, 187 00:11:07,933 --> 00:11:09,433 and then I'm going to die. 188 00:11:09,433 --> 00:11:10,867 - It doesn't make sense to me for people to hate. 189 00:11:10,867 --> 00:11:13,000 - The lifestyle that fundamental Christianity 190 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,567 wants you to lead, in order to 191 00:11:14,567 --> 00:11:16,767 achieve Heaven, is (beep). 192 00:11:16,767 --> 00:11:18,533 - I want someone to like chuck me 193 00:11:18,533 --> 00:11:19,933 in a river and be like, this is what 194 00:11:19,933 --> 00:11:22,200 a body looks like after three weeks in a river. 195 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,033 I think that sounds like, I think that 196 00:11:23,033 --> 00:11:25,167 sounds like super fun. 197 00:11:25,167 --> 00:11:27,233 - You can bet that you're not going to Hell, 198 00:11:27,233 --> 00:11:28,633 and live your life for fun, 199 00:11:28,633 --> 00:11:29,867 or you can bet that you're going to 200 00:11:29,867 --> 00:11:31,700 Heaven afterwards and live a terrible life 201 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:34,267 and never have sex and never anything fun. 202 00:11:36,967 --> 00:11:39,233 - What do you think they mean by racist, 203 00:11:39,233 --> 00:11:41,000 how do you think they have defined 204 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,767 the term racist? 205 00:11:42,767 --> 00:11:45,300 - A racist is anyone who is winning 206 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:47,200 an argument with a liberal. 207 00:11:53,167 --> 00:11:56,233 - Now, what does this mean in a secularist society? 208 00:11:56,233 --> 00:11:58,867 What does this mean in a secularist society? 209 00:11:58,867 --> 00:12:00,833 What does it mean for the materialistic atheist, 210 00:12:00,833 --> 00:12:04,800 or for New Age neopagans, and so forth? 211 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:10,467 - [Man in crowd] Are you (beep) serious? 212 00:12:10,467 --> 00:12:14,700 (applause) 213 00:12:19,033 --> 00:12:21,100 - I have been all day. 214 00:12:22,467 --> 00:12:24,167 So, both of these groups, both of these groups 215 00:12:24,167 --> 00:12:28,533 believe that ultimate reality, ultimate reality, 216 00:12:28,533 --> 00:12:30,833 is infinitely malleable. 217 00:12:30,833 --> 00:12:33,933 Ultimate reality is infinitely malleable. 218 00:12:33,933 --> 00:12:37,000 The materialist believes that matter is eternal, 219 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,733 and that given enough time, anything can turn 220 00:12:39,733 --> 00:12:41,900 into anything else. 221 00:12:41,900 --> 00:12:43,400 In the beginning was an enormous 222 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,000 amount of hydrogen, with lots of potential. 223 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,800 That's what evolution is all about. 224 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,633 You have this Big Bang, you have 225 00:12:50,633 --> 00:12:53,167 an enormous amount of hydrogen, 226 00:12:53,167 --> 00:12:55,567 and this hydrogen can turn, over time, 227 00:12:55,567 --> 00:12:58,767 into sea lions and little yellow canaries 228 00:12:58,767 --> 00:13:03,000 and people and supernovas and so on. 229 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,133 Anything can morph into anything else. 230 00:13:06,133 --> 00:13:08,167 - [Woman in crowd] I hope my son is gay! 231 00:13:08,167 --> 00:13:11,000 (cheering) 232 00:13:31,367 --> 00:13:32,767 - And I hope that Jesus forgives him 233 00:13:32,767 --> 00:13:35,033 just like he does the rest of us. 234 00:13:42,233 --> 00:13:44,867 Okay, I need to ask you to bear with me here, 235 00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:47,200 this is a university, and I'm laying out 236 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,033 the premises of what used to be called an argument. 237 00:13:51,033 --> 00:13:53,867 (laughter) 238 00:13:53,867 --> 00:13:55,600 What I'm saying is premise number one, 239 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,333 is you become like what you worship, 240 00:13:57,333 --> 00:14:00,800 you reflect what you think ultimate reality is. 241 00:14:06,767 --> 00:14:08,900 - Doug's got to be brave to go into that kind of thing. 242 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:10,667 I mean like I, one of the things, 243 00:14:10,667 --> 00:14:12,800 one of the reasons I don't like to speak in front 244 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,233 of college, most college audiences 245 00:14:16,233 --> 00:14:19,867 is because they're really not going to think, 246 00:14:19,867 --> 00:14:21,533 they're not going to, you know, it's like, 247 00:14:21,533 --> 00:14:22,733 help me out here. 248 00:14:22,733 --> 00:14:24,300 Just think through it. 249 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:26,300 I mean, there are people who will, 250 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:31,300 but it's all hyped up emotion, and you just kinda, 251 00:14:33,167 --> 00:14:38,167 and when you're talking on topics say like Doug is, 252 00:14:39,267 --> 00:14:41,000 or like the topics that I'm talking about, 253 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,467 they can get emotional. 254 00:14:42,467 --> 00:14:44,300 Well, there's two responses. 255 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:48,100 There's the really emotional, 256 00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:50,567 just everyone comes unglued, 257 00:14:50,567 --> 00:14:54,867 or there's the I don't care, 258 00:14:54,867 --> 00:14:56,600 I mean like, whatever. 259 00:14:57,900 --> 00:15:01,633 And both of those are hard to deal with 260 00:15:01,633 --> 00:15:03,633 when you're in an audience, you know 261 00:15:03,633 --> 00:15:06,633 when you're in a speaking situation like that. 262 00:15:06,633 --> 00:15:10,633 So, I think it's frustrating, you just can't 263 00:15:10,633 --> 00:15:14,667 have dialogue, you can't use reason, you can't. 264 00:15:16,667 --> 00:15:18,467 - Alright, so people today believe that it's possible, 265 00:15:18,467 --> 00:15:22,967 it's entirely up to you, to reinvent yourself if you want. 266 00:15:22,967 --> 00:15:25,300 I want to argue that sexual boundaries, 267 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:29,900 sexual definitions, follow the same kind of pattern. 268 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:33,100 The revolt of our current generation against the 269 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:36,267 Triune God, who made Heaven and Earth, 270 00:15:36,267 --> 00:15:40,067 is a revolt in the direction of a pagan polytheism. 271 00:15:40,067 --> 00:15:44,233 Multiple gods, multiple voices, multiple laws, 272 00:15:44,233 --> 00:15:46,967 and a general clamor out of which it's possible 273 00:15:46,967 --> 00:15:50,100 to select whatever suits the individual at the time. 274 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:52,667 The political name for this is pluralism, 275 00:15:52,667 --> 00:15:55,067 diversity is another name for it, the philosophical 276 00:15:55,067 --> 00:15:58,633 and cultural name for it is postmodernism. 277 00:15:58,633 --> 00:16:01,800 Radically relativistic, radically relativistic, 278 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,600 whether it means to be or not, 279 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,267 if has fallen off a cliff and cannot be prevented 280 00:16:06,267 --> 00:16:09,567 from eventually hitting the craggy rocks below, 281 00:16:09,567 --> 00:16:12,100 which I would say are nihilism and despair. 282 00:16:14,467 --> 00:16:17,800 But while falling, a number of people, while falling, 283 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,133 a number of people have the temporary sensation of 284 00:16:21,133 --> 00:16:23,467 absolute freedom, and they seek to use 285 00:16:23,467 --> 00:16:25,700 that freedom in the creation of pursuit of 286 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:28,333 various sexualities, as part of the freedom 287 00:16:28,333 --> 00:16:30,333 that they think they have. 288 00:16:30,333 --> 00:16:32,733 That is why we are dealing with metrosexuals, 289 00:16:32,733 --> 00:16:35,033 sodomites, catamites, lesbians. 290 00:16:35,033 --> 00:16:38,800 (crowd shouting) 291 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,267 Virtual perverts. 292 00:16:40,267 --> 00:16:45,267 (cheering) 293 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:05,400 We weren't taking a vote. 294 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,767 - [Man in crowd] Shut up! 295 00:17:08,133 --> 00:17:10,433 - Bloomington was probably the most aggressive 296 00:17:10,433 --> 00:17:13,800 I've seen one of these things being, 297 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,667 and really one of the most aggressive and 298 00:17:16,667 --> 00:17:19,233 most, I mean, I don't think we ever had 299 00:17:19,233 --> 00:17:23,200 a security planned for Doug before. 300 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,500 I could be wrong, but I don't think we 301 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:26,033 ever had a security planned for him. 302 00:17:26,033 --> 00:17:29,767 So there literally was fear, or concern 303 00:17:29,767 --> 00:17:32,400 that this could actually turn physically hostile. 304 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,933 - [Man in crowd] (beep) (beep) shut up! 305 00:17:36,367 --> 00:17:38,767 - I got video that, during the event or that night. 306 00:17:38,767 --> 00:17:40,267 - [Man in crowd] Shut up! 307 00:17:41,233 --> 00:17:43,333 I don't care what he's saying, 308 00:17:43,333 --> 00:17:46,533 he's a (beep) racist, sexist, homophobic, 309 00:17:46,533 --> 00:17:48,133 misogynist (beep). 310 00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:51,633 - You know, people getting arrested. 311 00:17:51,633 --> 00:17:53,700 - Get your (beep) off me. 312 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:59,700 - You know, the aggressive verbal, 313 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:02,467 you know, attack. 314 00:18:02,467 --> 00:18:04,067 - Don't touch me. 315 00:18:04,067 --> 00:18:06,033 Hey, don't touch me. 316 00:18:06,033 --> 00:18:07,900 - That happened at the event. 317 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:11,067 I mean, that stuff was ramped up levels 318 00:18:11,067 --> 00:18:12,733 from what we'd seen before. 319 00:18:12,733 --> 00:18:14,833 - You can't have it both ways. 320 00:18:14,833 --> 00:18:16,667 You can't have absolute freedom 321 00:18:16,667 --> 00:18:19,667 and then say, no no, wait, we can't do that. 322 00:18:19,667 --> 00:18:23,567 So, what is going to happen, is what will push 323 00:18:23,567 --> 00:18:27,300 to the front of the line, is, 324 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:32,300 (applause) 325 00:18:33,333 --> 00:18:36,100 pederasty, pedophilia, bestiality. 326 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:39,167 (laughter) 327 00:18:39,167 --> 00:18:41,467 If you believe, if you believe that, 328 00:18:41,467 --> 00:18:45,900 as Alfred Kinsey did, that children are sexual 329 00:18:45,900 --> 00:18:48,767 from birth and express that sexuality, 330 00:18:48,767 --> 00:18:51,467 if you believe that, what you believe about ultimate 331 00:18:51,467 --> 00:18:54,267 reality is going to drive your behavior. 332 00:18:54,267 --> 00:18:55,967 So what happens is this. 333 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,467 (cheering) 334 00:19:02,667 --> 00:19:05,033 - [Man in crowd] Are you cheering for pedophilia? 335 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:07,433 - Okay. 336 00:19:07,433 --> 00:19:10,767 Q and A, Q and A is coming up, Q and A is coming up. 337 00:19:12,533 --> 00:19:14,567 One of the things that we have to recognize, 338 00:19:14,567 --> 00:19:19,567 let's just give an example, people say, 339 00:19:20,967 --> 00:19:23,033 in these culture war debates, people will say something 340 00:19:23,033 --> 00:19:25,767 like, people on my side of the line will say, 341 00:19:25,767 --> 00:19:28,533 what about polygamy, oh no, we're not 342 00:19:28,533 --> 00:19:30,000 talking about that, we're not demanding it, 343 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,433 everybody, it's just two people, you know. 344 00:19:32,433 --> 00:19:35,667 Have you noticed that limiting marriage rights 345 00:19:35,667 --> 00:19:39,867 to two is hatred against bisexuals? 346 00:19:39,867 --> 00:19:43,767 (crowd murmuring) 347 00:19:46,533 --> 00:19:48,967 Are bisexuals, are bisexuals allowed 348 00:19:48,967 --> 00:19:52,000 to express their sexuality through marriage? 349 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,533 - [Crowd] Yes. 350 00:19:53,533 --> 00:19:54,767 - [Doug] Through marriage. 351 00:19:54,767 --> 00:19:55,567 So there has to be at least three. 352 00:19:55,567 --> 00:19:57,100 - No! 353 00:19:57,100 --> 00:20:01,800 (crowd murmuring) 354 00:20:10,933 --> 00:20:15,000 (cheering) 355 00:20:21,233 --> 00:20:26,233 - It's intense, just the way it's pure rage, 356 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,700 it feels like a large temper tantrum. 357 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:34,000 It's not like you're sitting down having 358 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,633 reasoned discourse, and it's an attempt to, 359 00:20:37,633 --> 00:20:40,733 it's really just an assertion of raw power. 360 00:20:40,733 --> 00:20:43,067 You know, but the thing it's weird 361 00:20:43,067 --> 00:20:46,833 is the way it's an assertion by raw power, 362 00:20:46,833 --> 00:20:49,300 by claiming victim-hood. 363 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:51,433 Like the thing that I remember, that I just 364 00:20:51,433 --> 00:20:52,667 still haven't got my mind around, 365 00:20:52,667 --> 00:20:55,000 was the way it looked to me like 366 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,400 the people in the crowd came with 367 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,967 pre-painted bruises and stuff. 368 00:20:59,967 --> 00:21:04,967 You know, so they came makeupped 369 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:09,000 to have been victims. 370 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,133 - Particularly what we're doing right now 371 00:21:11,133 --> 00:21:14,033 is painting our faces as if we've been hit 372 00:21:14,033 --> 00:21:17,100 or bullied, or physically harassed in some way, 373 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:19,600 to show that words have consequences. 374 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,000 - But as a way to just plain shut down 375 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,767 what was going on. 376 00:21:24,767 --> 00:21:26,467 And so there's this weird ability to 377 00:21:26,467 --> 00:21:29,133 manipulate victim-hood into a fist. 378 00:21:29,133 --> 00:21:31,167 And it's just crazy. 379 00:21:31,167 --> 00:21:34,133 - [Man in crowd] (beep) (beep) shut up! 380 00:21:37,767 --> 00:21:39,600 I don't (beep) what he's saying. 381 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,233 He's a (beep) idiot. 382 00:21:41,233 --> 00:21:44,700 Misogynistic (beep). 383 00:21:46,233 --> 00:21:48,067 Get your (beep) off me. 384 00:21:55,533 --> 00:21:56,533 Don't touch me. 385 00:21:56,533 --> 00:21:57,933 Hey! 386 00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:23,133 - [Man in crowd] They're attacking queers! 387 00:22:29,833 --> 00:22:32,500 (shouting) 388 00:22:43,733 --> 00:22:45,333 - [Crowd] Off our campus! 389 00:22:45,333 --> 00:22:47,667 Anyone who agrees! 390 00:22:47,667 --> 00:22:49,867 Join us now! 391 00:22:49,867 --> 00:22:51,900 You will leave! 392 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:54,700 Slavery is ideal! 393 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:57,567 Women are inferior! 394 00:22:57,567 --> 00:23:00,533 Gays deserve! 395 00:23:02,833 --> 00:23:04,500 - [Man] Are you done yet? 396 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:08,767 - [Crowd] We're against misogyny! 397 00:23:08,767 --> 00:23:13,100 We reject homophobia! 398 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,133 - [Man] We get it. 399 00:23:14,133 --> 00:23:16,300 Can you please sit down? 400 00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:17,800 Officer. 401 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,133 Whoever the ringleader is. 402 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,333 - [Crowd] A safe place for everyone. 403 00:23:26,333 --> 00:23:29,633 We respect free speech. 404 00:23:29,633 --> 00:23:32,867 This is hate speech. 405 00:23:32,867 --> 00:23:36,200 - We want to stand on the side of love, not war. 406 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,033 (drums) 407 00:24:14,667 --> 00:24:19,667 (chanting) 408 00:24:38,567 --> 00:24:40,967 - Why don't you live what you say you believe? 409 00:24:40,967 --> 00:24:42,933 And I would say to all the diversity mongers, 410 00:24:42,933 --> 00:24:45,433 why don't you live what you say you believe? 411 00:24:45,433 --> 00:24:47,167 Why don't you. 412 00:24:48,833 --> 00:24:53,233 You know, diversity for everybody who thinks like me. 413 00:24:53,233 --> 00:24:56,167 (cheering) 414 00:24:56,167 --> 00:24:57,500 You need to wake up. 415 00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:59,033 You're not committed to free speech. 416 00:24:59,033 --> 00:25:00,367 You're not committed to diversity, 417 00:25:00,367 --> 00:25:02,467 you're not committed to all the things you say 418 00:25:02,467 --> 00:25:03,700 that you're committed to. 419 00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:05,133 - [Woman in crowd] Raise your fucking hand and 420 00:25:05,133 --> 00:25:08,500 fucking right fist, police are fucking shit. 421 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:10,500 - This is not the first time I've run into the tolerance 422 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:11,900 buzz zone. 423 00:25:15,967 --> 00:25:18,667 If you want diversity, then show me 424 00:25:18,667 --> 00:25:21,100 how committed you are to it. 425 00:25:24,067 --> 00:25:25,433 - [Crowd] We're still queer! 426 00:25:25,433 --> 00:25:26,933 We're still queer. 427 00:25:26,933 --> 00:25:28,367 We're still queer. 428 00:25:28,367 --> 00:25:33,233 (chanting) 429 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,400 - [Voiceover] You know, several different designs, 430 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,367 until we got the perfect cake that 431 00:25:57,367 --> 00:26:00,200 just matched them, and sometimes it would take 432 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,367 two hours of sitting in a cake tasting, 433 00:26:03,367 --> 00:26:07,767 and if they chose me to do their cake. 434 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,867 (heavy breathing) 435 00:26:13,867 --> 00:26:16,167 I'm sorry. 436 00:26:16,167 --> 00:26:19,133 (applause) 437 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,800 I would just feel so honored 438 00:26:26,267 --> 00:26:28,300 to be able to be a part of such an amazing, 439 00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:29,667 special day. 440 00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:33,700 - It's not like, you know, people go, 441 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:35,633 I shouldn't have to bake a cake for two homos, 442 00:26:35,633 --> 00:26:38,400 it's not like you sit in your business that makes 443 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,200 cakes all day long, it's not like you're 444 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,533 sitting on your couch watching the Dodger game, 445 00:26:42,533 --> 00:26:43,867 and somebody from the government walks in, 446 00:26:43,867 --> 00:26:45,200 bake a cake for those queers. 447 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,100 (laughter) 448 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,800 That's not what's happening. 449 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,133 What, I'm (beep) watching TV, 450 00:26:50,133 --> 00:26:51,900 I gotta bake a cake? 451 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:53,567 That's not what's happening. 452 00:26:54,667 --> 00:26:56,533 - [Voiceover] Feminism has been around, 453 00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:58,800 you know, my whole life. 454 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,833 So it's not like, there's probably any one thing, 455 00:27:01,833 --> 00:27:04,467 it was probably just as I became aware of, 456 00:27:04,467 --> 00:27:08,067 what women were trying to get away with. 457 00:27:08,067 --> 00:27:09,633 - It's a man's world, and they can kind of 458 00:27:09,633 --> 00:27:11,000 say what they want and do what they want, 459 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,233 and we saw that. 460 00:27:12,233 --> 00:27:13,467 - And that what it comes down to? 461 00:27:13,467 --> 00:27:14,400 - Everybody's got a point of view, 462 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,933 everybody's got an opinion. 463 00:27:15,933 --> 00:27:17,600 - I put all this tender love and care 464 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,033 into my wedding cakes, now they want 465 00:27:20,033 --> 00:27:21,867 me to give it to lesbians. 466 00:27:21,867 --> 00:27:24,733 - I thought that tolerance, which was the mantra. 467 00:27:24,733 --> 00:27:26,300 - Alec Baldwin has been getting some grief 468 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:30,433 from Anderson Cooper and from Andrew Sullivan. 469 00:27:30,433 --> 00:27:31,867 - We can tolerate their point of view, 470 00:27:31,867 --> 00:27:33,100 they can tolerate my point of view, 471 00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:34,967 every American should be able to tolerate 472 00:27:34,967 --> 00:27:36,067 anybody's point of view, 473 00:27:36,067 --> 00:27:37,333 and we shouldn't butt heads. 474 00:27:37,333 --> 00:27:38,900 - Why did Joakim Noah get fined 50 thousand 475 00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:40,967 when Koby, for saying the same thing, 476 00:27:40,967 --> 00:27:42,633 was fined 100 thousand? 477 00:27:42,633 --> 00:27:44,733 - Well, in this situation that apparently 478 00:27:44,733 --> 00:27:45,933 is not the case. 479 00:27:45,933 --> 00:27:48,100 - Yeah, I am woman, hear me roar, 480 00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,567 kind of we're tough. 481 00:27:49,567 --> 00:27:51,967 - [Voiceover] It showed scantily clad women, 482 00:27:51,967 --> 00:27:53,867 earlier this morning he apologized 483 00:27:53,867 --> 00:27:55,133 and actually broke down. 484 00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:59,900 - Now, feminists are kind of big crybabies. 485 00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,867 - I made a big mistake, and I offended 486 00:28:01,867 --> 00:28:06,333 many people, and I'm very sorry about this. 487 00:28:07,733 --> 00:28:12,700 (heavy breathing) 488 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,567 - We heard about the photographer, 489 00:28:17,567 --> 00:28:20,000 and then the other baker in Colorado. 490 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 - I didn't know, I didn't know that same sex 491 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,667 attraction, or sexual orientation was a protected class. 492 00:28:26,667 --> 00:28:29,367 - Paula said in court that she has regularly 493 00:28:29,367 --> 00:28:32,633 used the N word, and that she admitted to her 494 00:28:32,633 --> 00:28:36,800 desire to throw a pre-Civil War era 495 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,967 plantation wedding. 496 00:28:38,967 --> 00:28:40,200 What? 497 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,167 - I thought I was well within my rights to say, 498 00:28:42,167 --> 00:28:44,200 no thank you, I don't want that order. 499 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,467 - Playing the victim card all the time. 500 00:28:46,467 --> 00:28:49,933 - You know, I didn't mean it in a homophobic way, 501 00:28:49,933 --> 00:28:54,933 and I think that, sorry, 502 00:28:56,867 --> 00:28:58,667 I think that. 503 00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:00,800 - I did not mean to waste your time, 504 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,367 I can't, in good conscious, 505 00:29:02,367 --> 00:29:04,733 make a same sex wedding cake. 506 00:29:04,733 --> 00:29:06,467 - That doesn't matter, you know, 507 00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:07,800 how you mean things doesn't matter, 508 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,633 words have weight in meaning. 509 00:29:09,633 --> 00:29:10,567 - You know. 510 00:29:10,567 --> 00:29:11,500 - And what was their response? 511 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,367 - Got up and walked out. 512 00:29:13,367 --> 00:29:14,367 - Didn't say anything to you? 513 00:29:14,367 --> 00:29:15,600 - Didn't say a word to me. 514 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,300 - Oh, it's easier to be a victim, 515 00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:19,167 and it's easier to flop for the camera 516 00:29:19,167 --> 00:29:22,667 and you know, claim to have sprained your ankle. 517 00:29:22,667 --> 00:29:24,667 - The word I chose was grotesque, 518 00:29:24,667 --> 00:29:29,667 and you know, no one deserves to say or hear 519 00:29:30,533 --> 00:29:32,133 words like that. 520 00:29:32,133 --> 00:29:35,367 - I think it takes less brains for one thing. 521 00:29:35,367 --> 00:29:37,067 You don't have to make an argument. 522 00:29:37,067 --> 00:29:39,567 You just have to say you hurt my feelings. 523 00:29:39,567 --> 00:29:41,533 - Well, the mom came back in. 524 00:29:41,533 --> 00:29:42,833 - She came back in at a later time, 525 00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:44,967 of course the mom is heterosexual. 526 00:29:44,967 --> 00:29:46,900 - There are all kinds of different people in the world. 527 00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:48,367 That's what makes the world special. 528 00:29:48,367 --> 00:29:51,167 - She tried to, she said that she was raised 529 00:29:51,167 --> 00:29:53,367 as a Southern Baptist, and once thought 530 00:29:53,367 --> 00:29:55,533 the way I did, but her truth had changed. 531 00:29:55,533 --> 00:29:57,767 - So whether someone is different than you. 532 00:29:57,767 --> 00:29:59,133 - And race. 533 00:29:59,133 --> 00:30:00,400 - Ethnicity. 534 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,633 - Political beliefs. 535 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:02,733 - Religion. 536 00:30:02,733 --> 00:30:04,500 - Or sexual orientation. 537 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:05,567 - She's evolved. 538 00:30:05,567 --> 00:30:06,367 - Yeah. 539 00:30:06,367 --> 00:30:07,167 Her truth has evolved. 540 00:30:07,167 --> 00:30:08,300 - Words can be hurtful. 541 00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:10,200 Replace them with understanding, 542 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,833 compassion, and acceptance. 543 00:30:12,833 --> 00:30:14,233 - Not unlike the president. 544 00:30:14,233 --> 00:30:16,100 - Right, exactly. 545 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,733 - The swooning couch culture, 546 00:30:18,733 --> 00:30:22,333 like feminists who are (laughs). 547 00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:24,400 They like to have all the tough rhetoric, 548 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,400 but then immediately resort to the fainting couch, 549 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,967 the like Victorian thing, is that what you mean? 550 00:30:30,967 --> 00:30:33,367 - I've failed. 551 00:30:33,367 --> 00:30:35,367 I didn't just go below the bar, 552 00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:36,533 went way below the bar. 553 00:30:36,533 --> 00:30:37,833 You know, I made a mistake. 554 00:30:37,833 --> 00:30:40,267 - When did you know you were in trouble? 555 00:30:40,267 --> 00:30:43,967 - When we got the, heard about the Bureau 556 00:30:43,967 --> 00:30:45,233 in labor and industries. 557 00:30:45,233 --> 00:30:48,433 - I'd like to apologize to the fans, 558 00:30:48,433 --> 00:30:50,433 for the Blue Jays, the Blue Jays organization. 559 00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:51,633 - Yeah. 560 00:30:51,633 --> 00:30:52,900 Well once, okay, let's put it this way. 561 00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:54,400 When the commissioner of the Bureau comes 562 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,500 out and says, folks have a right to their religious beliefs, 563 00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:59,667 but they don't have a right to break the law. 564 00:30:59,667 --> 00:31:01,500 - He said, today, as a young man, 565 00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:03,800 I didn't understand the power of certain words 566 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,167 and how they could hurt. 567 00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:07,100 - Well, he's got his mind made up. 568 00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,333 He never even heard the case yet, 569 00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:10,600 according Charlie Burr, the spokesman for 570 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,733 the Bureau of Labor and Industry, 571 00:31:12,733 --> 00:31:15,200 they hadn't even contacted these girls yet. 572 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,467 Which was a lie. 573 00:31:16,467 --> 00:31:18,100 They were doing the intake process 574 00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,133 as they were saying this. 575 00:31:20,133 --> 00:31:22,633 - And it was also said by Brad Avakian 576 00:31:22,633 --> 00:31:25,400 That it's not, how did he say it, 577 00:31:26,567 --> 00:31:28,200 - The goal is not to shut a business down, 578 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,767 but to rehabilitate them so they can operate 579 00:31:30,767 --> 00:31:32,867 within the confines of the law. 580 00:31:32,867 --> 00:31:34,233 - What? 581 00:31:34,233 --> 00:31:35,367 - Yes! 582 00:31:35,367 --> 00:31:36,833 - This is an Orwellian nightmare. 583 00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:41,767 Orwell pointed out in his essay on the politics 584 00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:47,467 of English, how basically language is full 585 00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:53,867 of political ramifications, and people 586 00:31:53,867 --> 00:31:56,400 think that it's neutral, and that when 587 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,733 someone says, oh, you hurt my feelings, 588 00:31:57,733 --> 00:31:59,433 that they just take it at face value. 589 00:31:59,433 --> 00:32:02,867 But no, there is an agenda here. 590 00:32:02,867 --> 00:32:04,367 - You asked me once, Winston, what was 591 00:32:04,367 --> 00:32:06,533 in room 101. 592 00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:09,967 - You know, I've been a supporter of the LBGTQ 593 00:32:09,967 --> 00:32:13,200 community my entire life, and I completely 594 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,033 let the members of that community 595 00:32:15,033 --> 00:32:16,567 and everybody else down when I used 596 00:32:16,567 --> 00:32:18,067 a word like that, this weekend. 597 00:32:18,067 --> 00:32:19,667 - It was there for you to flop over on 598 00:32:19,667 --> 00:32:22,200 when your corset got tightened too tight, 599 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,500 and so it was there for you as you passed out. 600 00:32:27,367 --> 00:32:30,500 There you would go, elegantly onto this swooning couch. 601 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:33,433 - They are trying to get us to go somewhere. 602 00:32:33,433 --> 00:32:38,433 - Thing that is in room 101 is the worst thing in the world. 603 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,000 - And if I'm not prepared to go where they're 604 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,300 trying to get me to go, I'm not prepared to 605 00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:45,767 let them near the rudder, I'm not prepared 606 00:32:45,767 --> 00:32:50,767 to let them have control over what is acceptable 607 00:32:51,533 --> 00:32:52,767 discourse or not. 608 00:32:52,767 --> 00:32:57,767 - And my heart's broken, and I genuinely 609 00:32:58,967 --> 00:33:00,767 am deeply sorry to anyone who's ever 610 00:33:00,767 --> 00:33:03,167 been affected by that term in their life. 611 00:33:03,167 --> 00:33:07,000 - And, but it was very in this sort of, 612 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,767 you know, 18th, 19th century, swooning and 613 00:33:09,767 --> 00:33:12,200 being overcome by your feelings was, 614 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,633 you know, kind of hip. 615 00:33:13,633 --> 00:33:16,333 - It's this, oh oh, that's triggering. 616 00:33:16,333 --> 00:33:18,900 Well, grow up. 617 00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,700 - And I don't deserve or expect your forgiveness. 618 00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:25,900 - All societies have ultimate values. 619 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:28,767 - Goes beyond fear of pain or death. 620 00:33:29,933 --> 00:33:31,467 It is unendurable. 621 00:33:31,467 --> 00:33:33,700 It varies from individual to individual. 622 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,833 - Every society in the history of man 623 00:33:36,833 --> 00:33:41,000 has had an integration point, and people 624 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,100 are not allowed to blaspheme against that 625 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,267 central integration point. 626 00:33:46,267 --> 00:33:48,067 - It is rats. 627 00:33:48,067 --> 00:33:49,233 - No! 628 00:33:51,367 --> 00:33:53,300 - And so you'd have your smelling salts 629 00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:56,600 and you know, everything, and I think 630 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,033 that's what the kind of woman as 631 00:33:59,033 --> 00:34:02,067 this little tender China doll thing, 632 00:34:02,067 --> 00:34:03,267 is what the feminists are trying to get 633 00:34:03,267 --> 00:34:05,000 away from, so it's really hilarious to me 634 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,700 that now we're doing the big you hurt my feelings. 635 00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:13,367 - So in Saudi Arabia, you can't go down 636 00:34:13,367 --> 00:34:18,367 to downtown mecca and blaspheme Mohammed or Allah. 637 00:34:18,967 --> 00:34:21,167 (rats squeaking) 638 00:34:21,167 --> 00:34:24,233 - Please, what do you want me to do? 639 00:34:24,233 --> 00:34:26,133 - You'll do what is right. 640 00:34:26,133 --> 00:34:31,067 - But what I ask is that at home, if you're watching this, 641 00:34:31,067 --> 00:34:33,167 and you're a young person especially. 642 00:34:33,167 --> 00:34:35,600 - You're making me feel bad, you know, 643 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,100 it seems like all they need is the smelling salts 644 00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:39,667 to complete the picture. 645 00:34:43,700 --> 00:34:46,800 - How can I do it if I don't know what it is? 646 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,800 - In the Proletarians, they will attack a baby, 647 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,767 and within five minutes strip it to the bone. 648 00:34:54,767 --> 00:34:56,400 - In medieval Christendom you could get 649 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,333 arrested for blaspheming Jesus. 650 00:35:03,733 --> 00:35:05,667 - If someone says something that hurts you, 651 00:35:05,667 --> 00:35:07,333 or angers you. 652 00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:09,767 - Rehabilitate. 653 00:35:09,767 --> 00:35:13,567 - So you guys are sick, you've got a condition. 654 00:35:13,567 --> 00:35:14,800 - [Woman] I guess. 655 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,733 - [Interviewer] And it needs to be fixed. 656 00:35:16,733 --> 00:35:20,500 - Today, I could go downtown in any major American 657 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:23,500 city and get myself arrested on the basis 658 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,300 of nothing more than what I was saying. 659 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:29,567 - Use me as an example of what not to do. 660 00:35:29,567 --> 00:35:32,667 - Needs to be fixed, needs to be rehabilitated. 661 00:35:32,667 --> 00:35:35,333 You, whatever is going on here, 662 00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:37,600 needs to be rehabbed. 663 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,867 - This starving brutes will shoot at you like bullets. 664 00:35:41,133 --> 00:35:43,333 Have you ever seen a rat eat from here? 665 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:49,800 They will leap on to your face 666 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,467 and bore straight into it. 667 00:35:52,567 --> 00:35:55,333 - I could begin talking about certain 668 00:35:55,333 --> 00:35:58,533 sacred cows, in our political life, 669 00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:00,567 and I could get myself arrested. 670 00:36:00,567 --> 00:36:03,300 They wouldn't call it blasphemy laws, 671 00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,867 they wouldn't arrest me for blasphemy, 672 00:36:06,867 --> 00:36:09,367 they would arrest me for hate speech. 673 00:36:09,367 --> 00:36:12,433 - And don't respond with hatred. 674 00:36:12,433 --> 00:36:16,433 - And if they're successful, in getting 675 00:36:16,433 --> 00:36:18,133 you fixed. 676 00:36:18,133 --> 00:36:20,500 - Theocracies are inescapable. 677 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:22,967 - Because you're just adding more ugliness to the world. 678 00:36:22,967 --> 00:36:25,100 - What's that going to look like? 679 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,133 What do they want from your to be fixed? 680 00:36:27,133 --> 00:36:30,100 - What do you want? 681 00:36:33,067 --> 00:36:35,300 - We're a democracy, and so demos is the 682 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:37,967 Greek word for people, the people are the god 683 00:36:37,967 --> 00:36:39,900 in the system, and there are certain protected 684 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:43,433 classes of people whom I must not touch. 685 00:36:45,367 --> 00:36:48,400 - Helping somebody celebrate same sex marriage. 686 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,067 - I may not say anything about them. 687 00:36:53,067 --> 00:36:54,967 And if I say something about them, 688 00:36:54,967 --> 00:36:56,633 they're going to haul me in. 689 00:36:56,633 --> 00:36:58,500 - And again, I just. 690 00:36:58,500 --> 00:36:59,767 - What they're going to do is they're 691 00:36:59,767 --> 00:37:02,633 going to haul me in for reorientation. 692 00:37:02,633 --> 00:37:04,633 (screaming) 693 00:37:06,267 --> 00:37:09,833 They want to put me through sensitivity training. 694 00:37:09,833 --> 00:37:11,600 What they want to do is they want to 695 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,633 teach me the error of my ways, and the 696 00:37:13,633 --> 00:37:15,800 fundamental thing they want me to admit 697 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,067 is their right to be treating me this way, 698 00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:19,867 they want me to admit they have the right 699 00:37:19,867 --> 00:37:22,433 to haul me in, and that I must become my own 700 00:37:22,433 --> 00:37:25,933 accuser, and I must say that I'm sorry. 701 00:37:25,933 --> 00:37:26,600 - I'm sorry. 702 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,133 - I apologize. 703 00:37:27,133 --> 00:37:27,900 - Sorry. 704 00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:29,200 - I apologize. 705 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,700 - I'm just, I'm so sorry. 706 00:37:34,367 --> 00:37:37,067 - If you go back to the Stalinist show trials, 707 00:37:37,067 --> 00:37:41,300 there is this inexorable, tyrannical demand 708 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,667 that the victim accuse himself. 709 00:37:43,667 --> 00:37:45,633 He must accuse himself. 710 00:37:45,633 --> 00:37:47,400 That's the way they do it in North Korea, 711 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,900 that's the way Stalin did it, and that's 712 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:52,167 the way we're going down that road. 713 00:37:52,167 --> 00:37:53,567 So they're going to want me to say 714 00:37:53,567 --> 00:37:55,067 that I'm sorry, and they're going to want me to 715 00:37:55,067 --> 00:37:57,400 love Big Brother, they're going to want 716 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,100 me to say Big Brother has my best interests in mind, 717 00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:04,567 and I've got to embrace the system. 718 00:38:04,567 --> 00:38:06,900 That's what they want from me. 719 00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:10,533 Because I'm not a progressive, secularist leftist. 720 00:38:10,533 --> 00:38:15,333 Where they want to go, I am refusing to go. 721 00:38:15,333 --> 00:38:17,067 I'm saying, I'm sorry, I'm not going to 722 00:38:17,067 --> 00:38:18,567 let you punch my ticket, I'm not going to 723 00:38:18,567 --> 00:38:20,833 get on your train, I'm not going to cooperate 724 00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:23,033 with anything you're doing, because I know 725 00:38:23,033 --> 00:38:25,167 what you're doing. 726 00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:28,067 - That's the fix. 727 00:38:28,067 --> 00:38:29,433 That's what they want, it was for us 728 00:38:29,433 --> 00:38:33,033 to celebrate something the Bible calls sin. 729 00:38:34,233 --> 00:38:36,500 - You know, I had worked for so many 730 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:40,400 years building a reputation with a lot of my vendors. 731 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,333 When I lost my vendors because a group 732 00:38:43,333 --> 00:38:46,933 of people basically harassed them all, 733 00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:48,767 to the point where they took me down 734 00:38:48,767 --> 00:38:52,633 from their websites, they emailed us, 735 00:38:52,633 --> 00:38:54,233 said we're no longer, you know, 736 00:38:54,233 --> 00:38:56,300 we can't associate with your guys' 737 00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:58,733 company, we can't refer you. 738 00:38:58,733 --> 00:39:01,600 I had two people that tried to hold on, 739 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,133 and they said, you know, we love you, 740 00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:06,267 we know that, you know, this was not 741 00:39:06,267 --> 00:39:09,733 about hate or anything of that nature. 742 00:39:09,733 --> 00:39:12,533 So we're going to keep you on our website. 743 00:39:12,533 --> 00:39:16,200 One girl, she called me about a week later, 744 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,900 and said I'm so, so sorry, I have to 745 00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:20,933 take you down, and I said, that's okay, 746 00:39:20,933 --> 00:39:22,400 what's going on? 747 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,367 And she said, I haven't gotten 748 00:39:23,367 --> 00:39:24,867 any business this whole week. 749 00:39:24,867 --> 00:39:26,267 She goes, it's been nothing but emails 750 00:39:26,267 --> 00:39:28,800 and phone calls of just harassment. 751 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,267 And that's, I mean, I told her, 752 00:39:31,267 --> 00:39:34,033 take me down, I don't want this to affect you. 753 00:39:34,033 --> 00:39:35,233 Go ahead. 754 00:39:35,233 --> 00:39:37,567 So I think that's, at that point, 755 00:39:37,567 --> 00:39:39,400 when I lost all of my vendors, which was 756 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,567 pretty much about 70, right about there, percent 757 00:39:43,567 --> 00:39:47,800 of our business, that's when I was like, 758 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,367 oh, this isn't good. 759 00:39:49,367 --> 00:39:53,333 - This is free market, capitalism, 760 00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:56,067 I'm just saying that people have a right 761 00:39:56,067 --> 00:39:58,667 to go tell their people that we're upset at you. 762 00:39:58,667 --> 00:40:00,633 We don't like you working with them, 763 00:40:00,633 --> 00:40:02,433 and they can either cave or they can not, 764 00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:03,667 but I mean. 765 00:40:03,667 --> 00:40:04,600 - I don't think it's okay for them 766 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,667 to harass people, I think that's 767 00:40:05,667 --> 00:40:06,900 a little bit extreme. 768 00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:08,333 - I mean, one vendor literally went to the 769 00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,167 extent of things, that I haven't been able 770 00:40:10,167 --> 00:40:12,467 to pick my phone up without being cussed out. 771 00:40:12,467 --> 00:40:13,733 - Yeah. 772 00:40:13,733 --> 00:40:14,900 - Okay, now that's, I mean, that's not, 773 00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:16,333 hey, do you do business with these people? 774 00:40:16,333 --> 00:40:18,333 You really shouldn't, you know what they did? 775 00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:20,333 No, that's just I'm angry, I'm angry 776 00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:22,667 and I don't want you to do business with them. 777 00:40:22,667 --> 00:40:26,300 I mean, that actually more closely mirrors 778 00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:29,333 racketeering, and see now, here's the odd part is, 779 00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:33,033 when that day, that happened on January 17th, 780 00:40:33,033 --> 00:40:35,500 when her mom came back in, her first words 781 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:38,200 out of her mouth was, you got to say your piece 782 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,200 and you got a right to it, I want to say mine. 783 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,100 I said, go ahead. 784 00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:45,167 It goes both ways. 785 00:40:45,167 --> 00:40:47,233 - What did she say? 786 00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:48,533 - She told me that I was wrong, 787 00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,000 that her daughter was born that way, 788 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,800 that God had made her daughter that way. 789 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,100 She said I was wrong and walked out. 790 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,100 And we agreed to disagree. 791 00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:56,367 - [Interviewer] Right. 792 00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:57,200 - You know, what a wonderful thing. 793 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,600 Out on the street. 794 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,600 A family of seven out on the street. 795 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,267 In the name of equality and tolerance. 796 00:41:03,267 --> 00:41:05,333 - [Woman] I don't know anybody that has 797 00:41:05,333 --> 00:41:07,867 five kids that can afford. 798 00:41:07,867 --> 00:41:09,933 - 135 thousand dollar damages. 799 00:41:11,833 --> 00:41:14,833 - That alone blows my mind. 800 00:41:14,833 --> 00:41:17,033 - So you don't think it's just a cultural coincidence 801 00:41:17,033 --> 00:41:19,700 that these are the professions that have been targeted? 802 00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:22,600 - What happens is we just had this wedding ceremony, 803 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,100 and we went from the church to the reception hall, 804 00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,667 and there's certain professions you call upon 805 00:41:28,667 --> 00:41:30,900 to make this look glorious. 806 00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,400 Make this look like a good time was had by all. 807 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,867 Make this lovely. 808 00:41:34,867 --> 00:41:37,067 Evangelical Christian bakers, and evangelical 809 00:41:37,067 --> 00:41:39,167 Christian florists, and evangelical Christian 810 00:41:39,167 --> 00:41:41,667 videographers, and photographers, 811 00:41:41,667 --> 00:41:44,467 are saying no, we can't make this lovely. 812 00:41:44,467 --> 00:41:47,833 This is beyond the scope of my ability. 813 00:41:47,833 --> 00:41:51,233 What the homosexual movement is after 814 00:41:51,233 --> 00:41:54,400 is not the right to marry. 815 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,267 They're after far more than that. 816 00:41:56,267 --> 00:41:58,500 What they're after, what they're demanding, 817 00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:00,133 is our approval. 818 00:42:00,133 --> 00:42:03,600 - It's like, in some way it's the victory 819 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,033 of the Gospel, because I don't think 820 00:42:07,033 --> 00:42:10,467 100 years ago or on another continent, 821 00:42:10,467 --> 00:42:12,000 you could have done this. 822 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,733 It's like, because as Christians, 823 00:42:13,733 --> 00:42:18,733 we learn to appreciate the underdog, 824 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,967 you know, because of the cross, 825 00:42:21,967 --> 00:42:26,200 we favor the victim, but they've learned 826 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,767 to take that victim-hood, that instinct 827 00:42:30,767 --> 00:42:33,567 to sort of favor the victim, and turned it, 828 00:42:33,567 --> 00:42:35,433 it's like a jujitsu move, where they've 829 00:42:35,433 --> 00:42:39,267 turned it into this way of asserting power again. 830 00:42:39,267 --> 00:42:41,500 But it is all just an assertion of power, 831 00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:44,067 it's like, you know, this is the thing that's 832 00:42:44,067 --> 00:42:45,867 so frustrating as Christians, is that 833 00:42:45,867 --> 00:42:48,367 tolerance, diversity, all of these, 834 00:42:48,367 --> 00:42:51,733 they're words that they don't mean tolerance, 835 00:42:51,733 --> 00:42:54,067 they mean, I mean, tolerance means, 836 00:42:54,067 --> 00:42:56,667 as far as I can tell, we don't serve your kind. 837 00:42:56,667 --> 00:42:59,567 You know, if the place proclaims tolerance, 838 00:42:59,567 --> 00:43:01,000 it means I'm not welcome there. 839 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,900 If they proclaim diversity, I'm not welcome there. 840 00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:04,700 And they've grabbed those words 841 00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,533 and changed it by raw power. 842 00:43:06,533 --> 00:43:09,133 And if you challenge the definition, 843 00:43:09,133 --> 00:43:11,000 it's a temper tantrum, right. 844 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,533 It's not going to be a reasoned discussion 845 00:43:13,533 --> 00:43:14,900 about what those words really mean. 846 00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:17,733 It's just, by power, they've asserted this, 847 00:43:17,733 --> 00:43:20,567 but they've done it in this kind of cunning way, 848 00:43:20,567 --> 00:43:24,333 where, at least, I think Christians are initially thrown, 849 00:43:24,333 --> 00:43:28,100 because we're supposed to favor the victim, 850 00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,800 and so we sit there, scratch our heads, 851 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,667 try to figure out why, but we don't realize, 852 00:43:32,667 --> 00:43:34,800 no, this is just another power move. 853 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,500 It's just they're doing it in a way that 854 00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:38,033 Christians are slow to catch on to 855 00:43:38,033 --> 00:43:38,967 what's happening. 856 00:43:38,967 --> 00:43:40,367 - I can see being disappointed. 857 00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:43,767 Is that worth 135 thousand dollars? 858 00:43:43,767 --> 00:43:47,267 You know, 80 cents. 859 00:43:47,267 --> 00:43:48,700 I'd go 80 cents on that. 860 00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:50,733 - How about a free birthday cake? 861 00:43:50,733 --> 00:43:52,433 You know, I mean. 862 00:43:54,033 --> 00:43:55,867 Now, the ones I find are just 863 00:43:58,033 --> 00:44:00,067 I don't know what mentally rape means. 864 00:44:00,067 --> 00:44:01,833 I don't get that one. 865 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,567 I don't know how you can have loss of appetite, 866 00:44:05,567 --> 00:44:08,800 - [Interviewer] So you somehow mentally raped. 867 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,933 - [Man] By saying I'm sorry, I can't do your wedding cake. 868 00:44:10,933 --> 00:44:13,233 - [Woman] That I just don't understand, honestly. 869 00:44:13,233 --> 00:44:15,667 - And for all those people who would say, 870 00:44:15,667 --> 00:44:17,633 well that's not what really happened, 871 00:44:17,633 --> 00:44:20,300 no, she said that on the stand and court under oath, 872 00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:21,933 that that's what I said to her, 873 00:44:21,933 --> 00:44:24,433 was I'm sorry, I think I may have wasted your time, 874 00:44:24,433 --> 00:44:26,467 I can't do the same sex wedding cake. 875 00:44:27,867 --> 00:44:29,033 - And at that point, 876 00:44:30,133 --> 00:44:34,033 those words are still injuring today. 877 00:44:34,033 --> 00:44:35,733 Penetrated her in such a way that she 878 00:44:35,733 --> 00:44:38,433 did not want to be penetrated with words? 879 00:44:39,867 --> 00:44:40,900 - I suppose. 880 00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,100 - I can't describe why. 881 00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:47,467 - But then again, those words caused 882 00:44:47,467 --> 00:44:49,833 another girl that was not even present at the shop 883 00:44:49,833 --> 00:44:52,467 to start smoking, that was my fault. 884 00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:57,633 They had loss of appetite, but weight gain. 885 00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:02,500 Insomnia and they overslept. 886 00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:03,667 - Which by the way is actually 887 00:45:03,667 --> 00:45:04,933 the worst condition to get, right. 888 00:45:04,933 --> 00:45:07,000 If I lost my appetite, and I had weight gain? 889 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,867 Cause if I want weight gain, I want to be enjoying 890 00:45:08,867 --> 00:45:10,067 the food I'm eating. 891 00:45:11,433 --> 00:45:12,367 Right? 892 00:45:12,367 --> 00:45:14,733 So I mean that, if that is true, 893 00:45:14,733 --> 00:45:16,367 that's horrible. 894 00:45:16,367 --> 00:45:17,833 - I made, and this is going to be 895 00:45:17,833 --> 00:45:19,367 something that you find interesting, 896 00:45:19,367 --> 00:45:20,667 I made somebody who did not have 897 00:45:20,667 --> 00:45:22,567 a job dislike going to work. 898 00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:26,500 - What? 899 00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:30,933 - One of the things that, you know, 900 00:45:30,933 --> 00:45:33,300 if you look at the story of Johnny Cash, 901 00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:34,900 and you look at how the late 80s, 902 00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:38,633 the early 90s, Nashville had turned its back on him. 903 00:45:38,633 --> 00:45:41,333 It was Rolling Stone, Billboard, one of the big 904 00:45:41,333 --> 00:45:43,833 music magazines, and they just took it out 905 00:45:43,833 --> 00:45:46,400 on, I believe, American Records did, 906 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,800 it was a picture of Johnny Cash 907 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,200 just flipping off the camera, and in a sense 908 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,967 something like Johnny Cash would 909 00:45:53,967 --> 00:45:56,067 like to thank Nashville for all of his support. 910 00:45:57,533 --> 00:46:00,000 Nashville, in this story, Nashville was a lot like, 911 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,433 you know, reformed, evangelical culture 912 00:46:04,433 --> 00:46:09,000 that has this idea of a very clean, 913 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,133 nice, biblically accurate, you know, 914 00:46:13,133 --> 00:46:16,633 gospel, and so, someone like, you know, 915 00:46:16,633 --> 00:46:19,600 Johnny Cash, and they're making songs that 916 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,367 we don't listen to that music. 917 00:46:21,367 --> 00:46:22,633 And that's kinda dark. 918 00:46:22,633 --> 00:46:26,500 I think, you know, his music doesn't 919 00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:30,967 fit into, you know, doesn't fit in. 920 00:46:30,967 --> 00:46:32,833 And it's just like Johnny Cash, 921 00:46:32,833 --> 00:46:34,267 what happens. 922 00:46:34,267 --> 00:46:36,933 You know, a lot of people, a whole new wave 923 00:46:36,933 --> 00:46:41,000 of younger people, start listening to him, 924 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,233 listening to Johnny Cash, become big fans 925 00:46:43,233 --> 00:46:44,800 and those were some of his biggest records. 926 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,800 And I think, there's a lot of parallels 927 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,667 as far as that goes, I think, you know, 928 00:46:50,667 --> 00:46:55,667 Doug doesn't fit into a nice, gospel coalition reformer 929 00:46:56,967 --> 00:46:58,200 evangelical build. 930 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,800 - Doug was very clear, in Indiana, 931 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,000 but far more than clear, he was courageous. 932 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,667 I mean, that was a thing, 933 00:47:06,667 --> 00:47:11,667 like you can imagine, if you're watching that. 934 00:47:12,867 --> 00:47:14,100 - I speak as a queer, I speak as a atheist. 935 00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:16,233 I speak as a student, speak as an instructor. 936 00:47:16,233 --> 00:47:17,833 - I have a hard time when I'm watching something like 937 00:47:17,833 --> 00:47:19,900 that, not imagining myself in those shoes. 938 00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:22,000 - Has by your definition, then Abraham, 939 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,767 Sarah, and Hagar were all bisexuals too? 940 00:47:24,767 --> 00:47:26,933 - I'm openly gay and a Christian. 941 00:47:26,933 --> 00:47:29,033 - You know, if somebody's standing on a cliff, 942 00:47:29,033 --> 00:47:32,167 I get scared, because I feel like I'm on the cliff, 943 00:47:32,167 --> 00:47:34,333 what would it be like to be in that position? 944 00:47:34,333 --> 00:47:37,767 - What did he lose again, by going to Heaven 945 00:47:37,767 --> 00:47:39,367 and ruling over the universe? 946 00:47:39,367 --> 00:47:41,200 I mean, where's the sacrifice? 947 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,033 - Why you think you have the right and 948 00:47:43,033 --> 00:47:46,300 the privilege of speaking for all Christians? 949 00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:50,033 - Can somebody be both Christian and gay? 950 00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:53,767 - You see that and you're, I get nervous and 951 00:47:53,767 --> 00:47:55,133 sick in my stomach. 952 00:47:55,133 --> 00:47:57,133 - Homosexual behavior is observed in 953 00:47:57,133 --> 00:47:59,300 almost every species. 954 00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:00,533 - Man and woman. 955 00:48:00,533 --> 00:48:02,533 Does that mean God was literally intersex? 956 00:48:02,533 --> 00:48:04,000 Or was he just really queer? 957 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,300 - Where does Jesus say that homosexuality is a sin? 958 00:48:08,167 --> 00:48:10,833 - It's very inconsistent. 959 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,767 It's kind of very confusing if everybody's 960 00:48:14,767 --> 00:48:17,600 bad, then, really, what's, I don't want to say 961 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,967 what's the point, but yeah, what's the point? 962 00:48:19,967 --> 00:48:22,900 - Imagine, standing there, with that crowd, shouting. 963 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:25,100 - When that's just your side of the story? 964 00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:29,967 (applause) 965 00:48:42,633 --> 00:48:45,067 - Doug was clear, because he had the courage, 966 00:48:45,067 --> 00:48:46,367 and you know the courage obviously comes 967 00:48:46,367 --> 00:48:48,300 from faith, you know, faith, to courage, 968 00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:51,900 to then you can think clearly and you do that. 969 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,600 So I'd like to raise up a generation of people 970 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,400 that have that virtue. 971 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,133 Because what happens is, as soon as 972 00:48:59,133 --> 00:49:03,600 David steps up, and says, no, 973 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,967 I'm going to face Goliath, as soon as 974 00:49:05,967 --> 00:49:10,333 he does that, then everybody phoomed behind, 975 00:49:10,333 --> 00:49:11,933 but you have to have a couple people 976 00:49:11,933 --> 00:49:15,500 who are first really to make that stand, 977 00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:18,400 that then everybody can go, because till 978 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,700 somebody does that, everybody just sits there 979 00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:24,333 looking back and forth, until they're ripped apart, 980 00:49:24,333 --> 00:49:25,833 you know, the shield wall is broken, 981 00:49:25,833 --> 00:49:28,300 and then you're gone, and you never realize, 982 00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:30,633 actually you had the forces, 983 00:49:30,633 --> 00:49:31,567 you had the people, 984 00:49:31,567 --> 00:49:33,200 you had what was necessary, 985 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,033 it's just you didn't have the courage. 986 00:49:35,033 --> 00:49:36,900 You didn't have spine to stand up 987 00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:41,533 and say what's patently obvious. 988 00:49:45,933 --> 00:49:47,333 * I'm from a side, come and get it 989 00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:51,167 * must of work, with a grown man 990 00:49:51,167 --> 00:49:52,867 * I've got my beer, state of my holy 991 00:49:52,867 --> 00:49:54,233 * suckers trying hold me 992 00:49:54,233 --> 00:49:56,367 * Imma kill them with my own hands 993 00:49:56,367 --> 00:49:57,600 * They keep pulling me back 994 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,867 * I'm from the side, come and get it 995 00:49:58,867 --> 00:50:00,000 * Must them work going cleaning up 996 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,500 * Now we call that grown man 997 00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:03,900 * I got my beer, state of my holy 998 00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:05,400 * suckers trying to hold me 999 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,633 * Imma kill them with my own hands * 1000 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,233 - Not only does this say 1001 00:50:10,233 --> 00:50:12,267 about homosexuality is wrong, and you, 1002 00:50:12,267 --> 00:50:14,900 in your works, you have said that homosexuals 1003 00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:17,100 deserve to die or be exiled. 1004 00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:18,633 So what do you say to those people 1005 00:50:18,633 --> 00:50:21,500 who are wearing polyester, with two blended fabrics? 1006 00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:24,633 Those who plant two different kinds of seeds 1007 00:50:24,633 --> 00:50:26,867 in the same field, or those who breed two 1008 00:50:26,867 --> 00:50:28,433 different kinds of the same animal, 1009 00:50:28,433 --> 00:50:30,233 do they deserve to die as well? 1010 00:50:30,233 --> 00:50:32,467 - Number one, it is true that the Bible 1011 00:50:32,467 --> 00:50:35,900 teaches that sinners are worthy of death. 1012 00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:37,567 I don't want to indicate in any way 1013 00:50:37,567 --> 00:50:39,700 that I think that being worthy of death 1014 00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:41,800 in this way is in any way unique 1015 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,400 to homosexuals, I believe I deserve to die 1016 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,467 for my sins. 1017 00:50:45,467 --> 00:50:46,767 The sentence of death rests on 1018 00:50:46,767 --> 00:50:49,167 the whole human race, for this condition of 1019 00:50:49,167 --> 00:50:52,533 sinfulness and also for particular sins, 1020 00:50:52,533 --> 00:50:55,300 of which homosexuality is one, heterosexual sin 1021 00:50:55,300 --> 00:50:56,433 is another, and so on. 1022 00:50:56,433 --> 00:50:57,667 So that's the first part. 1023 00:50:57,667 --> 00:50:58,900 The second part of your question, 1024 00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:02,033 is in the Old Testament, there are three kinds 1025 00:51:02,033 --> 00:51:05,267 of laws, there's moral law, there's judicial law, 1026 00:51:05,267 --> 00:51:06,933 and there's ceremonial law. 1027 00:51:06,933 --> 00:51:09,767 God required of the Jews in the Old Testament 1028 00:51:09,767 --> 00:51:12,200 that the Book of Ephesians calls it 1029 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,067 ordinances contained within in the Commandment. 1030 00:51:15,067 --> 00:51:17,233 It's a holiness code, so he's teaching 1031 00:51:17,233 --> 00:51:19,767 them this, not that, so unclean foods, 1032 00:51:19,767 --> 00:51:23,300 you're not to eat this, you may eat that, 1033 00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:25,133 and the New Testament tells us very 1034 00:51:25,133 --> 00:51:27,433 expressly that this holiness code 1035 00:51:27,433 --> 00:51:29,933 is not erased as though a bad idea, 1036 00:51:29,933 --> 00:51:32,633 but it's fulfilled in Christ, which is why 1037 00:51:32,633 --> 00:51:34,733 the ceremonial law of the Old Testament 1038 00:51:34,733 --> 00:51:37,267 is not binding on Christians today. 1039 00:51:37,267 --> 00:51:38,867 But the moral law is. 1040 00:51:38,867 --> 00:51:40,267 - I mean, it's amazing, the disparity 1041 00:51:40,267 --> 00:51:42,000 when you get to a college campus. 1042 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,900 There are smart kids, there are kids who are 1043 00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:49,900 dumb as rocks, and at all kinds of universities. 1044 00:51:51,933 --> 00:51:54,400 - [Interviewer] How are the dumb people there? 1045 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,333 - It's really not difficult to get in to colleges. 1046 00:52:00,533 --> 00:52:02,600 - Is there an issue if there are people 1047 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,633 that love each other, and they choose 1048 00:52:04,633 --> 00:52:06,133 to express their love in a way that 1049 00:52:06,133 --> 00:52:08,700 does not harm anyone, nor does it harm themselves, 1050 00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:10,100 and it's just purely love, 1051 00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:11,367 is there a problem with that? 1052 00:52:11,367 --> 00:52:12,767 - You're including sexual expression 1053 00:52:12,767 --> 00:52:14,233 of love, or you're just talking about loving each other? 1054 00:52:14,233 --> 00:52:15,633 I think we should all love each other. 1055 00:52:15,633 --> 00:52:17,067 - Yeah, and I'm including sexual expression 1056 00:52:17,067 --> 00:52:18,467 of love too, if it doesn't hurt 1057 00:52:18,467 --> 00:52:20,067 anyone else, and it doesn't hurt you, 1058 00:52:20,067 --> 00:52:22,500 and it's purely love, why is there an issue with it? 1059 00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,367 - Okay, first, if that were the case, 1060 00:52:25,367 --> 00:52:27,167 I would agree with you. 1061 00:52:27,167 --> 00:52:28,367 - Why is that not the case? 1062 00:52:28,367 --> 00:52:29,567 Because I feel that that's probably 1063 00:52:29,567 --> 00:52:30,800 where we're at. 1064 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,667 - The place where this is hitching up 1065 00:52:32,667 --> 00:52:34,733 is in that phrase, provided it is not 1066 00:52:34,733 --> 00:52:36,567 hurting anybody else. 1067 00:52:36,567 --> 00:52:37,800 Okay. 1068 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,067 In other words, we believe, we believe 1069 00:52:40,067 --> 00:52:43,267 that God tells us, that these things are destructive. 1070 00:52:43,267 --> 00:52:44,733 - Don't say we, because that includes me. 1071 00:52:44,733 --> 00:52:47,767 I'm not part of that we. 1072 00:52:47,767 --> 00:52:50,967 - Got it, okay, so when I'm saying we here, 1073 00:52:50,967 --> 00:52:52,600 I'm not saying we here in this room, 1074 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,433 I am saying, we Christians, I'm trying to 1075 00:52:55,433 --> 00:52:56,933 speak on behalf of Christians. 1076 00:52:56,933 --> 00:53:00,000 - [Woman in crowd] Some Christians, not all Christians. 1077 00:53:03,267 --> 00:53:05,200 - [Interviewer] Where did you go? 1078 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,200 - Case and point, case and point. 1079 00:53:09,733 --> 00:53:11,667 I went to Yale and Notre Dame, 1080 00:53:11,667 --> 00:53:13,100 they'll let anybody in. 1081 00:53:14,833 --> 00:53:16,633 - [Doug] I'd like to hear the gentleman's question. 1082 00:53:16,633 --> 00:53:18,833 - So I'm an English student, I study 1083 00:53:18,833 --> 00:53:20,500 language and I study text. 1084 00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:23,133 I want to know why, I guess people in general, 1085 00:53:23,133 --> 00:53:24,367 cause I didn't really listen to much 1086 00:53:24,367 --> 00:53:25,867 of what you had to say because I don't 1087 00:53:25,867 --> 00:53:28,367 really believe that the Bible is the word of God. 1088 00:53:28,367 --> 00:53:31,133 - Should I listen to your question as carefully? 1089 00:53:31,133 --> 00:53:33,333 - Well, sir, I'm asking you about the 1090 00:53:33,333 --> 00:53:34,600 root of your faith. 1091 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,000 - Should I listen to your question, 1092 00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:39,733 would you like me to listen to your question 1093 00:53:39,733 --> 00:53:41,800 as carefully as you listened to my talk? 1094 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,467 - If you want to get, if you want to serve 1095 00:53:44,467 --> 00:53:48,900 people up, talk about their life, 1096 00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,767 and if you mess with that, 1097 00:53:50,767 --> 00:53:52,400 people aren't going to like that. 1098 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,733 - All Americans have the right to 1099 00:53:53,733 --> 00:53:56,133 make decisions about their own bodies, 1100 00:53:56,133 --> 00:53:57,933 including the right to contraception without 1101 00:53:57,933 --> 00:53:59,700 interference from the government, 1102 00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,300 business, or religious institutions. 1103 00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:03,867 Do you agree with that? 1104 00:54:03,867 --> 00:54:05,533 - I believe that, I believe there 1105 00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:08,400 aught to be no legal restriction at all 1106 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,800 on what a woman does with her own body. 1107 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,233 If she decides that she wants to 1108 00:54:12,233 --> 00:54:13,900 chop off this finger, I don't think 1109 00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:15,267 there aught to be a law against it. 1110 00:54:15,267 --> 00:54:17,533 If she wants to chop off all her fingers, 1111 00:54:17,533 --> 00:54:18,767 I don't think there should be a law 1112 00:54:18,767 --> 00:54:20,900 against it, but why do we not have to 1113 00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:22,400 make a law against it? 1114 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,333 We don't, the reason that's not 1115 00:54:25,333 --> 00:54:27,800 a pressing social issue, is precisely 1116 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,300 because her fingers are her body. 1117 00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:34,667 She takes care of that, which is her body. 1118 00:54:34,667 --> 00:54:36,533 The issue in the whole abortion rights 1119 00:54:36,533 --> 00:54:38,233 thing, and this goes back to my first point 1120 00:54:38,233 --> 00:54:40,767 and my first talk, I hope you can see 1121 00:54:40,767 --> 00:54:42,900 how your religious presuppositions 1122 00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:45,667 define everything, because if you are 1123 00:54:45,667 --> 00:54:46,900 approaching this from a Christian 1124 00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:50,167 vantage point, reproductive rights 1125 00:54:50,167 --> 00:54:54,133 is code word for my body, and my child, 1126 00:54:54,133 --> 00:54:56,500 and I can take my child's life, 1127 00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:58,033 if I want, and no one can tell me 1128 00:54:58,033 --> 00:55:00,400 that I can't, so if you believe, 1129 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,600 as I do, that there's more people 1130 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,733 involved than just the woman. 1131 00:55:05,933 --> 00:55:10,733 - I just don't think that unbelievers are 1132 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,267 fully consistent with where their worldview is going. 1133 00:55:15,267 --> 00:55:19,667 - First part of your, whatever this is, show, 1134 00:55:19,667 --> 00:55:22,767 I'm entertained, somehow, I don't know why, 1135 00:55:22,767 --> 00:55:24,600 I was wondering, you mentioned something 1136 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,700 about us having to live up to our lifestyles 1137 00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:29,700 that we try to put out for society, 1138 00:55:29,700 --> 00:55:30,867 try to live up to that. 1139 00:55:30,867 --> 00:55:32,633 I'm wondering why aren't you? 1140 00:55:32,633 --> 00:55:35,533 I mean, I'm listening to this, all I hear is a bunch 1141 00:55:35,533 --> 00:55:39,100 of just hypocritical talking, because I look 1142 00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:40,967 through, and I look at people like, 1143 00:55:40,967 --> 00:55:42,900 I have two aunts, that are gay, 1144 00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:44,133 and they've been together for years, 1145 00:55:44,133 --> 00:55:46,167 way before I was born, and they're 1146 00:55:46,167 --> 00:55:47,800 like, two of the most sweetest people 1147 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,233 I've ever known, you know, look at 1148 00:55:49,233 --> 00:55:50,433 the shirts off your back, they'll do anything 1149 00:55:50,433 --> 00:55:53,467 or anyone, and you know, I find it weird that 1150 00:55:53,467 --> 00:55:57,133 you know, first, this religion who has such 1151 00:55:57,133 --> 00:56:01,700 a loving and caring passionate God 1152 00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:03,033 for the beings that he created, 1153 00:56:03,033 --> 00:56:04,767 why would he shun them if he 1154 00:56:04,767 --> 00:56:06,400 created them that way? 1155 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,033 And you know, I just don't, I'm not 1156 00:56:08,033 --> 00:56:09,300 understanding where you're getting 1157 00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:12,067 off all this hate talk and you know, 1158 00:56:12,067 --> 00:56:13,733 casting judgement on other people, 1159 00:56:13,733 --> 00:56:15,833 because I was pretty sure the Bible said, 1160 00:56:15,833 --> 00:56:18,433 you know, judge not, lest you be judged. 1161 00:56:18,433 --> 00:56:20,900 And my favorite proverb was, you know, 1162 00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:25,433 let you without sin cast the first stone. 1163 00:56:25,433 --> 00:56:27,800 And you know, I'm trying to understand 1164 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,567 why you're being such a hypocrite, 1165 00:56:32,567 --> 00:56:35,433 because you're not talking, you know, 1166 00:56:35,433 --> 00:56:37,067 nothing you're saying is connecting, 1167 00:56:37,067 --> 00:56:38,767 I just really want an answer, and I would 1168 00:56:38,767 --> 00:56:41,067 like it in the form of logic, if that's possible. 1169 00:56:41,067 --> 00:56:42,800 - Okay. 1170 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,533 With Mathews, you quoted Mathews 1:7, 1171 00:56:46,533 --> 00:56:48,933 judge not lest you be judged, for the 1172 00:56:48,933 --> 00:56:51,233 judgement which you judge you shall be judged. 1173 00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:53,067 Jesus is not saying, don't ever judge, 1174 00:56:53,067 --> 00:56:54,833 he says, the judgement that you use 1175 00:56:54,833 --> 00:56:56,600 is going to be used on you. 1176 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,200 He says, don't judge with a double standard. 1177 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,467 In other words, I've not said anything here tonight 1178 00:57:03,467 --> 00:57:05,733 that I'm not fully willing to have 1179 00:57:05,733 --> 00:57:09,533 applied to me, the Bible applies to me 1180 00:57:09,533 --> 00:57:11,367 in the first instance. 1181 00:57:11,367 --> 00:57:13,067 The Bible applies to me before I think 1182 00:57:13,067 --> 00:57:14,900 about anybody else, before I think about laws 1183 00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:17,767 or policy, it applies to me. 1184 00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:19,833 I am a sinner. 1185 00:57:19,833 --> 00:57:23,367 - This in consistency is a common 1186 00:57:23,367 --> 00:57:26,233 grace almost, it allows the unbeliever 1187 00:57:26,233 --> 00:57:29,467 to survive, to get on with life, 1188 00:57:29,467 --> 00:57:33,000 you know, to not self destruct. 1189 00:57:33,867 --> 00:57:36,533 - So, I study psychology here, 1190 00:57:36,533 --> 00:57:39,300 and I'm particularly interested in Kinsey's research, 1191 00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:41,967 and I came here under the supposition 1192 00:57:41,967 --> 00:57:44,767 that it was about Kinsey, I guess I missed 1193 00:57:44,767 --> 00:57:46,333 that part in your lecture, where you talked 1194 00:57:46,333 --> 00:57:49,933 about Kinsey, and I was interested in where 1195 00:57:49,933 --> 00:57:53,167 your research is, that shows his is wrong. 1196 00:57:53,167 --> 00:57:55,167 Cause you say that Kinsey is wrong, 1197 00:57:55,167 --> 00:57:57,767 I'm just interested in what kind of survey 1198 00:57:57,767 --> 00:58:02,300 you conducted, what you're counterarguments are. 1199 00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:04,600 - The particular things I would object to 1200 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,200 with Kinsey is his correspondence with 1201 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,433 a guy named Von Balluseck, a German Nazi 1202 00:58:11,433 --> 00:58:13,567 who did experiments. 1203 00:58:13,567 --> 00:58:14,800 - So you have a problem with who he 1204 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,300 was friends with, not with his research? 1205 00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:19,967 - Well, he was using Von Balluseck's information as 1206 00:58:19,967 --> 00:58:21,233 par of his research. 1207 00:58:21,233 --> 00:58:22,667 - Okay, so you still have a problem with 1208 00:58:22,667 --> 00:58:24,167 his friends, not his research? 1209 00:58:24,167 --> 00:58:26,767 - No, his friends were his research, 1210 00:58:26,767 --> 00:58:28,967 his friends, he collected information 1211 00:58:28,967 --> 00:58:31,433 from these people, and in Kinsey's 1212 00:58:31,433 --> 00:58:36,433 book, I think it's table 32, he talks about 1213 00:58:37,300 --> 00:58:41,233 orgasmic experience in infants 1214 00:58:41,233 --> 00:58:43,500 two months old, four months old, 1215 00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:45,033 and he has the table that goes 1216 00:58:45,033 --> 00:58:49,133 up and explains how many orgasms 1217 00:58:49,133 --> 00:58:51,000 in a 24 hour period these little 1218 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,733 kids were having, and the only way 1219 00:58:53,733 --> 00:58:56,667 they'd be having what Kinsey called orgasms, 1220 00:58:56,667 --> 00:58:58,400 because he defined orgasms in these 1221 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,300 situations as including convulsions, 1222 00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:03,400 throwing up, screaming, fear, which is what 1223 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,567 a child would do when being preyed upon 1224 00:59:05,567 --> 00:59:07,367 by a sexual predator, that's defined 1225 00:59:07,367 --> 00:59:11,500 as an orgasm in his operational definition, 1226 00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:13,633 and he includes that in his research. 1227 00:59:13,633 --> 00:59:16,867 He included prisoners and represented them 1228 00:59:16,867 --> 00:59:18,733 as part of the general population, 1229 00:59:18,733 --> 00:59:20,100 he included prisoners including 1230 00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:22,367 people who where in jail for sex crimes, 1231 00:59:22,367 --> 00:59:25,800 as normed, ordinary citizens, I just 1232 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,600 believe it was a junk science to go 1233 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,000 with a junk morality. 1234 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,867 - Right. 1235 00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:35,467 - You've almost gone beyond where you 1236 00:59:35,467 --> 00:59:37,867 can talk to someone. 1237 00:59:37,867 --> 00:59:39,300 And I see that on both sides, 1238 00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:41,133 I see, I mean, Christians and non-Christians, 1239 00:59:41,133 --> 00:59:46,133 they just can't, they just can't reason well. 1240 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,533 And it's scary, you know, run by emotions. 1241 00:59:52,533 --> 00:59:54,267 And I mean, we all are, none of us are 1242 00:59:54,267 --> 00:59:56,333 perfectly consistent, we're all you know, 1243 00:59:56,333 --> 01:00:01,333 all only human, but it's such a disaster 1244 01:00:02,533 --> 01:00:04,867 out there, that it's getting to the point 1245 01:00:04,867 --> 01:00:07,767 where, I mean, and I know people have said this, 1246 01:00:07,767 --> 01:00:10,833 in probably every generation, the barbarians 1247 01:00:10,833 --> 01:00:14,400 are not at the gates, they're, we're hanging 1248 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,100 out with them now. 1249 01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:19,500 We're a culture who is just the littlest thing 1250 01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:24,500 hurts us, but we don't mind killing others. 1251 01:00:25,967 --> 01:00:27,700 - So why folks in Bloomington want to pretend 1252 01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:29,733 that Wilson is racist and the answer being, 1253 01:00:29,733 --> 01:00:31,267 because they would like to distract from the fact 1254 01:00:31,267 --> 01:00:33,933 Kinsey was a dirty white perv, pedaling junk science 1255 01:00:33,933 --> 01:00:36,233 in defense of destructive sexuality. 1256 01:00:36,233 --> 01:00:38,200 The reason we feel like you're racist is because 1257 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,833 in Southern Slavery As It Was, 1258 01:00:39,833 --> 01:00:41,300 a monograph by Steve Wilkins and 1259 01:00:41,300 --> 01:00:43,400 Douglas Wilson, I think that's you, 1260 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,133 it says slavery produced in the South 1261 01:00:46,133 --> 01:00:48,300 a genuine affection between the races that 1262 01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:50,233 we can say has never existed in any 1263 01:00:50,233 --> 01:00:52,433 nation before the war since, 1264 01:00:52,433 --> 01:00:54,533 whatever it's failures, slavery produced in the South 1265 01:00:54,533 --> 01:00:56,733 a duree of mutual affection between the races, 1266 01:00:56,733 --> 01:00:57,967 which will never be achieved through any 1267 01:00:57,967 --> 01:01:00,000 federally mandated efforts. 1268 01:01:01,867 --> 01:01:03,600 Can you please elaborate on that? 1269 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,100 How is that not racist? 1270 01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:08,300 It's actually, one more thing, 1271 01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:12,333 three historians even said, condemned it, 1272 01:01:12,333 --> 01:01:13,933 with one of them saying that it was 1273 01:01:13,933 --> 01:01:16,267 as spurious as a Holocaust denial. 1274 01:01:16,267 --> 01:01:18,900 That's pretty racist to me. 1275 01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:20,100 So could you please elaborate and how 1276 01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:23,600 it interconnects with Christ, and how 1277 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,667 Christ had unconditional love for the world 1278 01:01:25,667 --> 01:01:27,600 and how the two interconnect, 1279 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,167 how racism's okay because God said it was okay, 1280 01:01:31,167 --> 01:01:33,433 which is kind of what this pamphlet is telling me. 1281 01:01:33,433 --> 01:01:37,100 - Okay, let me step into your worldview 1282 01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:41,033 for a minute, and speak to this thing that I said 1283 01:01:41,033 --> 01:01:43,200 in Southern slavery. 1284 01:01:44,900 --> 01:01:46,467 And this is very important. 1285 01:01:46,467 --> 01:01:49,600 Assuming what your view of the world to be correct, 1286 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,433 what you just read, if I agreed with you, 1287 01:01:52,433 --> 01:01:55,467 I would dismiss as stupid and asinine, 1288 01:01:55,467 --> 01:01:56,867 but not as racist. 1289 01:01:56,867 --> 01:01:59,633 Especially since elsewhere in the booklet, 1290 01:01:59,633 --> 01:02:02,467 I defined race, racism, racial animosity, 1291 01:02:02,467 --> 01:02:05,767 racism, and the belief of superiority of one 1292 01:02:05,767 --> 01:02:08,967 race over another as a sin against God, 1293 01:02:08,967 --> 01:02:11,100 in that booklet, I do that. 1294 01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:12,667 - So you counter your own points? 1295 01:02:12,667 --> 01:02:14,967 - No, I'm saying some people who agitated 1296 01:02:14,967 --> 01:02:17,267 things need to do a little bit more reading 1297 01:02:17,267 --> 01:02:19,333 before they got the wind in their sails. 1298 01:02:19,333 --> 01:02:21,633 - I've done a lot of reading. 1299 01:02:23,733 --> 01:02:26,200 - This is the fundamental thing. 1300 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,900 So just so you understand this. 1301 01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:30,833 As far as the theory is racism charge, 1302 01:02:30,833 --> 01:02:33,067 I believe racism is a sin, I believe 1303 01:02:33,067 --> 01:02:35,900 that it is evil, I believe that God hates it, 1304 01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:37,433 and I believe that God will judge it 1305 01:02:37,433 --> 01:02:40,067 along with all other sins at the last day. 1306 01:02:41,333 --> 01:02:43,133 Now, is that racist? 1307 01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:45,967 No. 1308 01:02:45,967 --> 01:02:47,867 That's my position. 1309 01:02:47,867 --> 01:02:51,967 Now, if I believe that you shouldn't 1310 01:02:51,967 --> 01:02:55,633 take a sinful institution, which I believe 1311 01:02:55,633 --> 01:03:00,233 slavery was, and attack it by fermenting a war, 1312 01:03:00,233 --> 01:03:02,467 if I believe that you aught not to tackle 1313 01:03:02,467 --> 01:03:04,567 the problem that way, but rather you aught 1314 01:03:04,567 --> 01:03:06,633 to attack the problem another way, 1315 01:03:06,633 --> 01:03:08,867 you might differ, and you're invited 1316 01:03:08,867 --> 01:03:10,767 to differ, with whether my approach 1317 01:03:10,767 --> 01:03:13,333 to it is wise or stupid, foolish, whatever. 1318 01:03:13,333 --> 01:03:15,200 But it's not racist. 1319 01:03:22,067 --> 01:03:24,933 - The privilege and distinct honor 1320 01:03:24,933 --> 01:03:28,133 to introduce the 44th President of 1321 01:03:28,133 --> 01:03:30,733 the United States of America, 1322 01:03:30,733 --> 01:03:33,633 Barack H. Obama. 1323 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,767 (cheering) 1324 01:03:42,667 --> 01:03:47,233 - We, the people, declare today 1325 01:03:47,233 --> 01:03:50,467 that the most evident of truths, 1326 01:03:50,467 --> 01:03:53,200 that all of us are created equal, 1327 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,500 is the star that guides us still, 1328 01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:58,600 just as it guided our forbears through 1329 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,733 Seneca Falls and Selma and Stonewall, 1330 01:04:01,733 --> 01:04:04,133 just as it guided all those men and women, 1331 01:04:04,133 --> 01:04:06,267 sung and unsung who left footprints 1332 01:04:06,267 --> 01:04:08,967 along this great Mall, to hear a preacher 1333 01:04:08,967 --> 01:04:12,167 say that we cannot walk alone. 1334 01:04:12,167 --> 01:04:14,700 To hear a king proclaim that our individual 1335 01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:17,333 freedom is inextricably bound to the freedom 1336 01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:19,433 of every soul on Earth. 1337 01:04:20,767 --> 01:04:24,667 (applause) 1338 01:04:27,067 --> 01:04:29,700 It is now our generation's task 1339 01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:33,500 to carry on what those pioneers began. 1340 01:04:34,733 --> 01:04:36,267 For our journey's not complete 1341 01:04:36,267 --> 01:04:38,633 until our wives, our mothers and daughters 1342 01:04:38,633 --> 01:04:41,733 can earn a living equal to their efforts. 1343 01:04:41,733 --> 01:04:45,267 (applause) 1344 01:04:48,733 --> 01:04:50,267 Our journey is not complete until our 1345 01:04:50,267 --> 01:04:52,300 gay brothers and sisters are treated 1346 01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:55,667 like anyone else under the law. 1347 01:04:55,667 --> 01:04:58,100 For if we are truly created equal, 1348 01:04:58,100 --> 01:04:59,600 they surely the love we commit 1349 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,200 to one another must be equal as well. 1350 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,167 (applause) 1351 01:05:07,167 --> 01:05:08,467 Our journey is not complete until 1352 01:05:08,467 --> 01:05:10,667 no citizen is forced to wait for hours 1353 01:05:10,667 --> 01:05:12,700 to exercise the right to vote. 1354 01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:16,800 (applause) 1355 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,433 Our journey is not complete until 1356 01:05:18,433 --> 01:05:20,967 we find a better way to welcome the striving, 1357 01:05:20,967 --> 01:05:23,033 hopeful immigrants who still see 1358 01:05:23,033 --> 01:05:25,533 America as a land of opportunity. 1359 01:05:25,533 --> 01:05:27,867 Until bright young students and engineers 1360 01:05:27,867 --> 01:05:30,133 are listed in our workforce rather 1361 01:05:30,133 --> 01:05:31,933 than expelled from our country. 1362 01:05:31,933 --> 01:05:35,800 (applause) 1363 01:05:37,533 --> 01:05:39,800 Our journey is not complete, 1364 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,533 until all our children, in the streets 1365 01:05:42,533 --> 01:05:44,933 of Detroit to the hills of Appalachia, 1366 01:05:44,933 --> 01:05:47,867 to the quiet lanes of Newtown, 1367 01:05:47,867 --> 01:05:50,667 know that they are cared for 1368 01:05:50,667 --> 01:05:54,367 and cherished and always safe from harm. 1369 01:05:57,533 --> 01:06:00,867 That is our generation's task. 1370 01:06:01,967 --> 01:06:04,600 To make these words, these rights, 1371 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,300 these values of life and liberty 1372 01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:10,567 and the pursuit of happiness, 1373 01:06:10,567 --> 01:06:13,900 real for every American. 1374 01:06:16,067 --> 01:06:17,800 Being true to our founding documents 1375 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,200 does not require us to agree on 1376 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,200 every contour of life. 1377 01:06:25,900 --> 01:06:30,900 (cheering) 1378 01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:35,800 - We live in a time when racism 1379 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,667 is the all purpose attack your enemy. 1380 01:06:40,867 --> 01:06:43,400 So I want to say, if someone says, 1381 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,733 are you a racist, first, now, 1382 01:06:45,733 --> 01:06:47,333 what do you mean by racist? 1383 01:06:49,033 --> 01:06:50,500 - Okay, I'll jump in. 1384 01:06:51,967 --> 01:06:53,700 Do you believe the Civil War was good? 1385 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:55,767 - No. 1386 01:06:58,133 --> 01:06:59,800 - Are you a big of Abraham Lincoln? 1387 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,467 - No. 1388 01:07:01,467 --> 01:07:03,800 I think he was a great man, but I don't 1389 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,100 think he was a helpful president, 1390 01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:10,700 I think his presidency had a number 1391 01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:13,033 of destructive consequences that 1392 01:07:13,033 --> 01:07:15,533 we're still dealing with today. 1393 01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:23,233 - [Crowd] Equal pay for equal work. 1394 01:07:38,633 --> 01:07:41,500 - Are you an African American woman? 1395 01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:42,967 - I identify as black. 1396 01:07:42,967 --> 01:07:45,500 - [Voiceover] Caitlyn looked absolutely amazing. 1397 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,867 - Dealing with the fact that we don't have slavery anymore? 1398 01:07:59,867 --> 01:08:01,400 - No, dealing with the fact that the federal 1399 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,333 government thinks they have the right 1400 01:08:03,333 --> 01:08:07,033 to define what marriage is for all 50 states. 1401 01:08:07,033 --> 01:08:09,600 - How do we get to marriage and talking about slavery? 1402 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,800 - Well, in that when they, at the founding, 1403 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,200 you had 13 colonies form the federal government. 1404 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,533 As a result of our expansion westward, 1405 01:08:19,533 --> 01:08:22,100 and as a result of the constitutional shifts 1406 01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,400 in the war between the states, 1407 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,867 we then had the idea take root 1408 01:08:26,867 --> 01:08:29,467 that the federal government could create 1409 01:08:29,467 --> 01:08:31,433 states, now the federal government 1410 01:08:31,433 --> 01:08:34,700 is older than the new states being created. 1411 01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:36,967 - So the role of the court wasn't settled. 1412 01:08:36,967 --> 01:08:38,567 John Marshall settled it. 1413 01:08:38,567 --> 01:08:40,333 He made it clear that the decisions 1414 01:08:40,333 --> 01:08:42,300 of the Supreme Court were binding 1415 01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:44,633 on the state courts, remember the state courts 1416 01:08:44,633 --> 01:08:47,933 as I said, they were here before the Constitution. 1417 01:08:47,933 --> 01:08:50,333 It wasn't clear that they were going to have 1418 01:08:50,333 --> 01:08:52,367 the final say, or these new federal courts, 1419 01:08:52,367 --> 01:08:53,900 including the Supreme Court. 1420 01:08:53,900 --> 01:08:55,400 He established the Supreme Court 1421 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,267 as the final arbitrator of what the Constitution means. 1422 01:08:58,267 --> 01:09:00,633 The branch that was going to make 1423 01:09:00,633 --> 01:09:02,033 a decision was going to be binding 1424 01:09:02,033 --> 01:09:04,367 not only on the citizens, but also 1425 01:09:04,367 --> 01:09:06,200 on the states and also importantly 1426 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,067 on the federal government itself. 1427 01:09:09,167 --> 01:09:10,667 - People think the federal, the centralized 1428 01:09:10,667 --> 01:09:13,967 government has authority to tell the 1429 01:09:13,967 --> 01:09:17,833 lower downs what to do, so we think 1430 01:09:17,833 --> 01:09:19,733 of it as a giant corporation and the 1431 01:09:19,733 --> 01:09:22,433 federal government is the CEO and all 1432 01:09:22,433 --> 01:09:25,333 the states are the department managers. 1433 01:09:25,333 --> 01:09:28,600 That's not the Constitutional system. 1434 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,767 That's not what the Constitution created. 1435 01:09:31,767 --> 01:09:34,600 That's not what the Constitution was set up to do. 1436 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,333 - As you already know, the Supreme Court 1437 01:09:36,333 --> 01:09:38,633 is at the top of the ladder. 1438 01:09:38,633 --> 01:09:40,133 - [Voiceover] There has been a decision handed 1439 01:09:40,133 --> 01:09:41,433 down on at least one of the two 1440 01:09:41,433 --> 01:09:44,167 cases regarding gay marriage in America 1441 01:09:44,167 --> 01:09:46,733 that we expect to today from the US Supreme Court. 1442 01:09:46,733 --> 01:09:47,933 - [Voiceover] The cake shop owner 1443 01:09:47,933 --> 01:09:49,233 in Colorado now facing fines or even 1444 01:09:49,233 --> 01:09:51,233 jail time after he refused to bake 1445 01:09:51,233 --> 01:09:53,200 a cake for a same sex wedding. 1446 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,700 - Supreme Court justice had said, 1447 01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:57,233 okay everybody, you've got to let 1448 01:09:57,233 --> 01:09:59,400 two dudes marry, you've got to let 1449 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,167 two women marry, all you people 1450 01:10:01,167 --> 01:10:03,067 in your states. 1451 01:10:03,067 --> 01:10:05,133 The federal government would have been 1452 01:10:05,133 --> 01:10:07,200 handled at that time, by eveybody 1453 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,067 just laughing at them. 1454 01:10:09,067 --> 01:10:11,400 It would have been beyond ludicrous, 1455 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,233 because the federal government 1456 01:10:13,233 --> 01:10:16,533 did not have that power. 1457 01:10:16,533 --> 01:10:18,333 Did not have that authority. 1458 01:10:18,333 --> 01:10:21,900 But, it does now, it certainly thinks 1459 01:10:21,900 --> 01:10:24,633 it does now, and even many opponents 1460 01:10:24,633 --> 01:10:26,700 of same sex marriage are positioning 1461 01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:29,600 themselves, you know, political opponents, 1462 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,567 they're saying, well, if the Supreme Court 1463 01:10:31,567 --> 01:10:33,800 decides that we've got to do it this way, 1464 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,433 then well, they're the Supreme Court after all, 1465 01:10:36,433 --> 01:10:39,100 we've got to do whatever they say. 1466 01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:40,933 That notion that we've got to do 1467 01:10:40,933 --> 01:10:44,833 whatever they say, is a political 1468 01:10:44,833 --> 01:10:48,267 approach that has a lineage, and that 1469 01:10:48,267 --> 01:10:50,567 lineage goes right back to the war between 1470 01:10:50,567 --> 01:10:53,167 the states and the way the 14th Amendment 1471 01:10:53,167 --> 01:10:56,200 was adopted and then applied. 1472 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,400 - [Voiceover] Clerk's office turned away 1473 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,300 gay couples who sought marriage licenses 1474 01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:01,133 Thursday, defying a federal judge's 1475 01:11:01,133 --> 01:11:02,900 order that said deeply held Christian 1476 01:11:02,900 --> 01:11:04,500 beliefs don't excuse officials 1477 01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:06,200 from following the law. 1478 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,900 County clerk Kim Davis cited 1479 01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:09,467 her religious beliefs and decided 1480 01:11:09,467 --> 01:11:11,300 not to issue marriage licenses 1481 01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:13,000 to any couple gay or straight. 1482 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,533 - I would ask you all to go ahead and. 1483 01:11:15,533 --> 01:11:17,500 - Why are you not issuing marriage licenses today? 1484 01:11:17,500 --> 01:11:18,833 - Because I'm not. 1485 01:11:18,833 --> 01:11:20,033 - Why? 1486 01:11:20,033 --> 01:11:21,333 - Under who's authority are you not issuing? 1487 01:11:21,333 --> 01:11:22,600 - Under God's authority. 1488 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:27,600 - This began when a handful of unelected 1489 01:11:28,733 --> 01:11:30,833 judges decreed they knew better than 1490 01:11:30,833 --> 01:11:32,467 the American people, and that we're 1491 01:11:32,467 --> 01:11:33,967 going to write in to the Consistution 1492 01:11:33,967 --> 01:11:36,233 a right that doesn't exist. 1493 01:11:36,233 --> 01:11:41,233 - The Bill of Rights was a series of appendices, 1494 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,033 a series of amendments. 1495 01:11:44,033 --> 01:11:48,900 - Resistance to the federal court order ceases at once. 1496 01:11:48,900 --> 01:11:51,200 The further presence of federal troops 1497 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,867 will be unnecessary. 1498 01:11:52,867 --> 01:11:54,600 The city of Little Rock will return 1499 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,933 to it's normal habits of peace and order. 1500 01:11:57,933 --> 01:12:00,267 And a blot upon the fair name and 1501 01:12:00,267 --> 01:12:02,600 high honor of our nation in the world 1502 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,500 will be removed. 1503 01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:06,733 - Kim Davis is now in federal custody 1504 01:12:06,733 --> 01:12:08,367 just moments ago a judge found her 1505 01:12:08,367 --> 01:12:10,267 in contempt of court because she 1506 01:12:10,267 --> 01:12:12,100 would not issue marriage licenses 1507 01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:13,867 to same sex couples. 1508 01:12:13,867 --> 01:12:16,233 - Thus will be restored the image 1509 01:12:16,233 --> 01:12:20,133 of America and of all parts as one nation, 1510 01:12:20,133 --> 01:12:24,767 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 1511 01:12:24,767 --> 01:12:27,933 - The original Constitution that the federalists 1512 01:12:27,933 --> 01:12:31,167 agreed to, in order to get the anti-federalists 1513 01:12:31,167 --> 01:12:34,100 who opposed the adoption of the Consitution, 1514 01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:38,500 to allay their concerns, the original Bill of Rights 1515 01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:41,567 were all restrictions on the power of the 1516 01:12:41,567 --> 01:12:42,967 central government. 1517 01:12:42,967 --> 01:12:44,767 - In a landmark ruling, the Supreme Court 1518 01:12:44,767 --> 01:12:47,267 today legalized abortions. 1519 01:12:47,267 --> 01:12:49,200 The majority and cases from Texas 1520 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,733 and Georgia said that the decision to 1521 01:12:50,733 --> 01:12:52,967 end the pregnancy during the first three 1522 01:12:52,967 --> 01:12:56,067 months belongs to the woman and her doctor. 1523 01:12:56,067 --> 01:12:57,200 - Who's got the power? 1524 01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,500 - [Crowd] We've got the power! 1525 01:12:58,500 --> 01:12:59,600 - What kind of power? 1526 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,433 (shouting) 1527 01:13:01,433 --> 01:13:02,967 - [Crowd] It's basic rights. 1528 01:13:02,967 --> 01:13:04,767 Women can't be free. 1529 01:13:04,767 --> 01:13:08,533 Abortion happens now and without apology. 1530 01:13:08,533 --> 01:13:10,067 - It's really hard to say that that's 1531 01:13:10,067 --> 01:13:12,100 a meaningless mass of cells. 1532 01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,600 Much more difficult than it used to be. 1533 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,833 So, I think we're making very significant progress. 1534 01:13:17,833 --> 01:13:19,733 You can see that hearts start beating 1535 01:13:19,733 --> 01:13:22,100 at seven weeks, you know, a heart doesn't 1536 01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:24,800 beat in a meaningless mass of cells. 1537 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:25,933 - Hold up, but respectfully no one 1538 01:13:25,933 --> 01:13:27,333 in their twenties cares at all 1539 01:13:27,333 --> 01:13:29,033 or understands about anything you just said. 1540 01:13:29,033 --> 01:13:31,200 - Yeah, that's their problem. 1541 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,167 - But it doesn't matter anymore. 1542 01:13:33,167 --> 01:13:35,400 Everything you just said doesn't 1543 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,500 matter, no one knows, the Bill of Rights, 1544 01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:41,333 number 14th, no one cares about that, Doug. 1545 01:13:41,333 --> 01:13:43,533 - Yeah, they're too busy checking their email. 1546 01:13:43,533 --> 01:13:45,867 - So explain to me, finish the sentence, 1547 01:13:45,867 --> 01:13:48,100 the Civil War was bad because? 1548 01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:49,833 - Well, if they don't care about what I just 1549 01:13:49,833 --> 01:13:52,233 said, they don't care about the Civil War. 1550 01:13:52,233 --> 01:13:53,933 If they don't care what I just said. 1551 01:13:53,933 --> 01:13:55,267 - But they care about slavery, 1552 01:13:55,267 --> 01:13:56,533 and slavery was a bad thing and 1553 01:13:56,533 --> 01:13:58,200 it ended because of the Civil War. 1554 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,533 - No, what you're saying is that these 1555 01:14:00,533 --> 01:14:02,533 people who cannot be bothered to be 1556 01:14:02,533 --> 01:14:05,200 informed on what actually happened 1557 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,500 in 1861, 1865, they're too bored, you're making 1558 01:14:08,500 --> 01:14:10,000 my heart hurt, am I going to have to 1559 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,333 read a book or something? 1560 01:14:11,333 --> 01:14:12,400 - Was slavery bad? 1561 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,267 - Yeah. 1562 01:14:14,267 --> 01:14:16,700 - So we got rid of it through a war. 1563 01:14:16,700 --> 01:14:18,733 - Yeah, we killed 600 thousand people to 1564 01:14:18,733 --> 01:14:21,533 get rid of it, everywhere else in the western word 1565 01:14:21,533 --> 01:14:25,133 no other country that practiced slavery 1566 01:14:25,133 --> 01:14:28,100 got rid of it the way we did, through a war. 1567 01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:31,833 So, was it bad to kill 600 thousand people? 1568 01:14:31,833 --> 01:14:34,233 Yeah, that's bad too. 1569 01:14:34,233 --> 01:14:36,867 Now what, why didn't we do it peacefully, 1570 01:14:36,867 --> 01:14:38,467 the way other countries did? 1571 01:14:38,467 --> 01:14:42,367 Why did we go to war over it? 1572 01:14:42,367 --> 01:14:45,633 So those issues are political issues that don't 1573 01:14:45,633 --> 01:14:47,333 have anything to do with the rightness 1574 01:14:47,333 --> 01:14:49,567 or wrongness of slavery. 1575 01:14:49,567 --> 01:14:52,433 - We have the ability to change this. 1576 01:14:52,433 --> 01:14:54,300 And to change this 1577 01:14:55,433 --> 01:14:59,800 without a war fought in the streets. 1578 01:15:00,733 --> 01:15:02,067 We have the ability to change. 1579 01:15:02,067 --> 01:15:04,267 - The Civil War wasn't a just war, then? 1580 01:15:04,267 --> 01:15:06,900 - The Civil War was absolutely a just war. 1581 01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:09,300 - So how much more with abortion? 1582 01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:11,800 - We have the ability to change this, 1583 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,433 directly, simply by standing up and engaging. 1584 01:15:16,433 --> 01:15:17,267 - [Interviewer] So you're not willing to go 1585 01:15:17,267 --> 01:15:19,033 to war for the unborn? 1586 01:15:20,633 --> 01:15:22,300 - Where they say if you don't want to do it 1587 01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:24,933 our way, which is killing 600 thousand people. 1588 01:15:26,667 --> 01:15:30,633 Take all the money we spent on that war 1589 01:15:30,633 --> 01:15:33,967 and just buy all the slaves for pity's sake, 1590 01:15:33,967 --> 01:15:36,467 and set them free, you know, 1591 01:15:36,467 --> 01:15:38,733 why the bloodshed? 1592 01:15:38,733 --> 01:15:40,533 Why do you have to have blood? 1593 01:15:40,533 --> 01:15:43,467 Well, if I object to the blood, 1594 01:15:43,467 --> 01:15:46,033 if I object to settling that kind of dispute 1595 01:15:46,033 --> 01:15:48,800 the way not other nation did, then why 1596 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,500 all of a sudden am I accused of 1597 01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:55,600 defending the institution of slavery, 1598 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,533 which I want to get rid of peacefully? 1599 01:15:58,533 --> 01:16:02,200 - We should start with Christians and 1600 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,833 with everyone who values life, 1601 01:16:03,833 --> 01:16:06,400 standing up and speaking out together. 1602 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,333 - This is the difference between the conservative 1603 01:16:08,333 --> 01:16:10,367 mindset and the liberal mindset. 1604 01:16:10,367 --> 01:16:12,833 The conservative thinks always in terms 1605 01:16:12,833 --> 01:16:17,067 of trade offs, the liberal thinks in terms of solutions. 1606 01:16:17,067 --> 01:16:19,467 The liberal wants solutions. 1607 01:16:19,467 --> 01:16:20,900 And he doesn't want to think in terms 1608 01:16:20,900 --> 01:16:23,000 of trade offs, he doesn't want to think 1609 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,967 that there's ever a price tag for 1610 01:16:24,967 --> 01:16:27,267 what he's advocating, he wants 1611 01:16:27,267 --> 01:16:29,833 free chocolate milk for everybody. 1612 01:16:31,733 --> 01:16:34,200 (shouting) 1613 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,467 - Is this what you want to remember, 1614 01:16:35,467 --> 01:16:38,467 that you spit at, the children look at you, 1615 01:16:38,467 --> 01:16:40,000 and realize that you're bigots and you 1616 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,533 discriminate against people. 1617 01:16:41,533 --> 01:16:42,700 - And why can't we have it? 1618 01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:44,367 Why can't we just vote for it? 1619 01:16:44,367 --> 01:16:45,567 Right? 1620 01:16:45,567 --> 01:16:47,233 Well, because the world's not that way. 1621 01:16:47,233 --> 01:16:49,267 - The federal department of health and human services 1622 01:16:49,267 --> 01:16:51,200 overturned Medicare's blanket ban on 1623 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,967 sex reassignment surgery. 1624 01:16:52,967 --> 01:16:57,100 - Trans medicine is a medically necessary intervention. 1625 01:16:57,100 --> 01:16:58,467 - [Voiceover] Just last week, Massachusetts 1626 01:16:58,467 --> 01:17:00,133 became the third state in the country to 1627 01:17:00,133 --> 01:17:03,000 cover transgender healthcare under Medicaid. 1628 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,467 - The Civil War was a series of trade offs and 1629 01:17:06,467 --> 01:17:09,600 I would argue that it was a bad set of trade offs. 1630 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,533 - [Voiceover] Gay is the new black. 1631 01:17:12,533 --> 01:17:14,467 - The definition of civil rights, the word 1632 01:17:14,467 --> 01:17:16,433 civil rights is about equal rights for all, 1633 01:17:16,433 --> 01:17:18,567 regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, 1634 01:17:18,567 --> 01:17:21,000 religion, and Barack Obama himself 1635 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,233 has defined this as a civil rights issue. 1636 01:17:23,233 --> 01:17:25,133 So if he can say it's civil rights, 1637 01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:26,733 then I can say it's civil rights. 1638 01:17:26,733 --> 01:17:29,567 - From Seneca Falls to Selma to Stonewall, 1639 01:17:29,567 --> 01:17:32,133 that's how we achieved gay rights. 1640 01:17:32,133 --> 01:17:35,767 That's how we've made this union more perfect. 1641 01:17:35,767 --> 01:17:38,333 - We traded things we aught not to have traded. 1642 01:17:38,333 --> 01:17:39,800 And we're still paying for it. 1643 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,567 That's my argument. 1644 01:17:41,567 --> 01:17:45,367 That's not to say, that I think that 1645 01:17:45,367 --> 01:17:48,533 the elimination of slavery was a bad thing. 1646 01:17:48,533 --> 01:17:52,100 Slavery is gone, and good riddance. 1647 01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:54,067 - This transition has been harder on me 1648 01:17:54,067 --> 01:17:56,167 than anything I could imagine. 1649 01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:01,067 - I'm as pro life as you can possibly be. 1650 01:18:01,067 --> 01:18:03,800 - It's all just a matter of items. 1651 01:18:07,067 --> 01:18:09,167 - Believe that abortion aught to be against the law. 1652 01:18:09,167 --> 01:18:10,167 - You know, you can imagine what 1653 01:18:10,167 --> 01:18:11,367 they would run with this, 1654 01:18:11,367 --> 01:18:12,600 "they're selling body parts," you know. 1655 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:13,633 - [Interviewer] What'd keep your lab happy? 1656 01:18:13,633 --> 01:18:15,067 - Another fifty livers a week. 1657 01:18:17,667 --> 01:18:20,200 - I believe that the lives of the unborn 1658 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,333 should be protected. 1659 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,000 - Now, do I want to kill a million people 1660 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:43,233 in order to achieve a pro life objective? 1661 01:18:43,233 --> 01:18:45,267 If I had a button in front of me, 1662 01:18:45,267 --> 01:18:49,433 and I push that button, and if I push 1663 01:18:49,433 --> 01:18:52,167 that button, we're going to have the great 1664 01:18:52,167 --> 01:18:54,633 North American war, and a million people are 1665 01:18:54,633 --> 01:18:57,400 going to die, after which there will be no 1666 01:18:59,133 --> 01:19:01,867 abortion on demand, okay, 1667 01:19:01,867 --> 01:19:04,533 that's the kind of trade off that I'm talking about. 1668 01:19:04,533 --> 01:19:07,033 Nobody was running the calculus before 1669 01:19:07,033 --> 01:19:08,800 the war between the states, saying, 1670 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,467 well, we're going to kill 600 thousand people, 1671 01:19:11,467 --> 01:19:12,967 that's not how wars develop. 1672 01:19:12,967 --> 01:19:14,200 That's not how they go. 1673 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,300 You get in, and then when you're in, 1674 01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:17,567 you're stuck. 1675 01:19:17,567 --> 01:19:19,833 - [Crowd] A safe place for everyone. 1676 01:19:19,833 --> 01:19:22,533 We respect free speech. 1677 01:19:22,533 --> 01:19:25,233 This is hate speech! 1678 01:19:25,233 --> 01:19:27,933 Get off our campus! 1679 01:19:29,067 --> 01:19:32,333 Racist, sexist, go away. 1680 01:19:32,333 --> 01:19:37,333 Racist, sexist, anti gay, Douglas Wilson go away. 1681 01:19:50,333 --> 01:19:54,667 (cheering) 1682 01:20:12,367 --> 01:20:14,567 - The verb, to tolerate, is a verb 1683 01:20:14,567 --> 01:20:16,433 that requires a direct object. 1684 01:20:16,433 --> 01:20:19,133 Everything boils down not to whether 1685 01:20:19,133 --> 01:20:21,633 you tolerate, but what you tolerate. 1686 01:20:21,633 --> 01:20:24,167 And conversely, it also boils down 1687 01:20:24,167 --> 01:20:26,333 to what you will not tolerate. 1688 01:20:26,333 --> 01:20:29,133 Every society tolerates and every 1689 01:20:29,133 --> 01:20:31,600 society refuses to tolerate. 1690 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,733 Every subculture tolerates some things, 1691 01:20:34,733 --> 01:20:37,533 and refuses to tolerate others. 1692 01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:40,033 Every society, for example, keeps 1693 01:20:40,033 --> 01:20:43,267 some things and throws other things away. 1694 01:20:43,267 --> 01:20:45,767 So we're here at the dump, this is the 1695 01:20:45,767 --> 01:20:49,667 stuff that society, this town, is throwing away, 1696 01:20:49,667 --> 01:20:51,867 and there's a bunch of stuff in town that 1697 01:20:51,867 --> 01:20:53,100 they're not throwing away. 1698 01:20:53,100 --> 01:20:55,033 Everybody keeps stuff and everybody 1699 01:20:55,033 --> 01:20:56,567 throws stuff away. 1700 01:20:56,567 --> 01:20:58,633 The only question before us is 1701 01:20:58,633 --> 01:21:01,267 what do you keep and what do you throw away? 1702 01:21:01,267 --> 01:21:04,700 What do you hang on to and what do you jettison? 1703 01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:08,533 Our culture currently is adopting 1704 01:21:08,533 --> 01:21:11,067 purchasing, bringing home, taking into their 1705 01:21:11,067 --> 01:21:14,500 living rooms a novel approach to marriage, 1706 01:21:14,500 --> 01:21:18,267 family, culture, society, they've got this 1707 01:21:18,267 --> 01:21:21,400 new thing that they've set up in their homes, 1708 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,067 and because they're doing that, 1709 01:21:24,067 --> 01:21:26,500 they are engaged in throwing away 1710 01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:29,633 their Christian heritage, their Christian legacy. 1711 01:21:29,633 --> 01:21:31,267 If you keep one thing, you have to 1712 01:21:31,267 --> 01:21:33,900 throw another thing away, and flip it around, 1713 01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:36,500 you can't keep everything. 1714 01:21:36,500 --> 01:21:40,400 A society that kept everything is a society 1715 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,333 that would be a dump, it would be 1716 01:21:42,333 --> 01:21:44,433 just a random pile of things. 1717 01:21:44,433 --> 01:21:46,333 You've got to sort, you've got to select, 1718 01:21:46,333 --> 01:21:48,267 you've got to throw some things away, 1719 01:21:48,267 --> 01:21:49,767 and keep other things. 1720 01:21:49,767 --> 01:21:50,833 Now, one of the things that people 1721 01:21:50,833 --> 01:21:52,133 don't realize, and I'm sure this 1722 01:21:52,133 --> 01:21:54,067 happens at the dump all the time, 1723 01:21:54,067 --> 01:21:57,733 they throw things away and then later 1724 01:21:57,733 --> 01:21:59,533 they realize something that was precious 1725 01:21:59,533 --> 01:22:01,500 to them is missing, maybe it got 1726 01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:04,267 dumped into the bag and maybe 1727 01:22:04,267 --> 01:22:06,367 I accidentally, I lost my wedding ring, 1728 01:22:06,367 --> 01:22:08,867 or you know, that sort of thing. 1729 01:22:08,867 --> 01:22:12,800 And so they say, oh no, I threw something 1730 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,033 away that I didn't mean to throw away. 1731 01:22:15,033 --> 01:22:19,133 Now, in our time, in this era, 1732 01:22:19,133 --> 01:22:22,000 we are self consciously rejecting our 1733 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,567 explicit Christian heritage. 1734 01:22:24,567 --> 01:22:26,533 What we're throwing away that we don't 1735 01:22:26,533 --> 01:22:29,567 know we're throwing away, is our liberty. 1736 01:22:29,567 --> 01:22:31,400 We're throwing away our liberty, we're throwing 1737 01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,567 away our ability to speak freely, 1738 01:22:33,567 --> 01:22:37,033 we're throwing away our right to free speech. 1739 01:22:37,033 --> 01:22:39,300 We didn't know that that was in the garbage bag, 1740 01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:40,800 we didn't know that we shook that off 1741 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,100 when we brushed off all our Christian commitments. 1742 01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:45,733 We didn't know that certain things were 1743 01:22:45,733 --> 01:22:47,167 going to go with it. 1744 01:22:47,167 --> 01:22:50,400 So, and this is of interest to non-Christians 1745 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,733 as well, free speech, the liberty of conscience, 1746 01:22:54,733 --> 01:22:59,233 having a right to certain fundamental religious 1747 01:22:59,233 --> 01:23:03,200 convictions, that right is a right that Christians 1748 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,500 developed, that came out of Christian societies. 1749 01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:08,133 It's not something that happened 1750 01:23:08,133 --> 01:23:10,100 all by itself, if you look at the history 1751 01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:12,033 of the world, where did the right of free speech 1752 01:23:12,033 --> 01:23:16,233 develop, where has it been established, 1753 01:23:16,233 --> 01:23:19,867 protected, and guarded for as long as it has been? 1754 01:23:19,867 --> 01:23:22,900 Well, overwhelmingly, in Christian societies. 1755 01:23:22,900 --> 01:23:25,167 And that's why it's no accident 1756 01:23:25,167 --> 01:23:28,400 when we are seeing this explicit 1757 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,333 rejection of the Christian faith, 1758 01:23:31,333 --> 01:23:33,633 we're seeing almost simultaneously 1759 01:23:33,633 --> 01:23:37,833 the jailing of county clerks who's 1760 01:23:37,833 --> 01:23:42,067 conscience forbids them to issue 1761 01:23:42,067 --> 01:23:47,067 a license, we've seen bakers fined 135 thousand dollars, 1762 01:23:48,133 --> 01:23:49,167 in the public sector, county clerk, 1763 01:23:49,167 --> 01:23:51,867 in the private sector, florists, 1764 01:23:51,867 --> 01:23:56,333 photographers, videographers, bakers, 1765 01:23:56,333 --> 01:23:58,567 saying, you must conform. 1766 01:23:58,567 --> 01:24:00,367 So what they're doing, what's happening 1767 01:24:00,367 --> 01:24:04,233 is we've adopted this new commitment to egalitarianism 1768 01:24:04,233 --> 01:24:06,833 and same sex marriage, and then as a 1769 01:24:06,833 --> 01:24:10,000 absolute necessity, we are throwing away 1770 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,500 liberty of conscience, the right to free speech, 1771 01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:15,433 and all these things liberals claim 1772 01:24:15,433 --> 01:24:16,767 are precious to them. 1773 01:24:16,767 --> 01:24:17,967 Well I'm sorry. 1774 01:24:17,967 --> 01:24:19,233 You can't take your chainsaw to the 1775 01:24:19,233 --> 01:24:21,900 orchard, and then go out in the fall 1776 01:24:21,900 --> 01:24:23,833 and ask, where are my apples? 1777 01:24:23,833 --> 01:24:26,067 The whole idea of liberty of conscience 1778 01:24:26,067 --> 01:24:29,433 is a distinctively Christian development. 1779 01:24:29,433 --> 01:24:33,700 When the first Amendment was established and 1780 01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:38,133 put into the US Constitution, that was America, 1781 01:24:38,133 --> 01:24:42,100 at that time, was not a secularist society. 1782 01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:44,500 It was overwhelmingly Christian, 1783 01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:47,633 Protestant, and for the most part, Calvinistic. 1784 01:24:47,633 --> 01:24:50,000 So basically, I would say what you can 1785 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,533 expect if Christians prevail in the future, 1786 01:24:54,533 --> 01:24:58,700 you can expect largely what you got the first time. 1787 01:24:58,700 --> 01:24:59,800 Liberty. 1788 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,833 Christians love liberty. 1789 01:25:01,833 --> 01:25:04,033 And the foundation of that liberty 1790 01:25:04,033 --> 01:25:06,933 was proclaimed, I think, at the very 1791 01:25:06,933 --> 01:25:09,400 first when the lord Jesus appeared 1792 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,533 to Mary Magdalene after the resurrection. 1793 01:25:11,533 --> 01:25:13,100 That's the foundation of liberty. 1794 01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:14,900 Christ rose from the dead. 1795 01:25:14,900 --> 01:25:16,867 If Christ rose from the dead, everything 1796 01:25:16,867 --> 01:25:19,000 is transformed, if Christ didn't come back 1797 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,533 from the dead, then we're just a bunch 1798 01:25:21,533 --> 01:25:23,167 of atoms colliding into each other 1799 01:25:23,167 --> 01:25:28,167 and the strongest at the top can 1800 01:25:29,033 --> 01:25:30,633 squash people as it suits them. 1801 01:25:30,633 --> 01:25:33,833 As it fits with their notions of public order. 1802 01:25:33,833 --> 01:25:35,700 If I'm not created in the image of God, 1803 01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:36,833 certain things follow. 1804 01:25:36,833 --> 01:25:38,800 If my atheist neighbor is not created 1805 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,233 in the image of God, certain things follow. 1806 01:25:41,233 --> 01:25:43,967 And over time, men act in accordance 1807 01:25:43,967 --> 01:25:46,300 with their collective convictions. 1808 01:25:46,300 --> 01:25:47,567 You've seen those bumper stickers, 1809 01:25:47,567 --> 01:25:49,833 if you can read this, thank a teacher, 1810 01:25:49,833 --> 01:25:51,967 if you've every exercised your first Amendment 1811 01:25:51,967 --> 01:25:53,900 rights, thank a Christian. 1812 01:25:53,900 --> 01:25:56,833 Thank a Bible believing Christian. 1813 01:25:56,833 --> 01:25:58,133 We invented it. 1814 01:25:58,133 --> 01:26:01,367 The first Amendment is our contribution. 1815 01:26:01,367 --> 01:26:06,133 And so you can't come in late in the day 1816 01:26:06,133 --> 01:26:09,267 and pretend we are the enemies of free speech, 1817 01:26:09,267 --> 01:26:11,000 when we are the ones who put it 1818 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,567 on the map. 1819 01:26:41,167 --> 01:26:42,300 - [Interviewer] Now, you don't believe the world's coming 1820 01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:43,533 to an end anytime soon? 1821 01:26:43,533 --> 01:26:45,967 - No, I think in the long run, we win. 1822 01:26:47,133 --> 01:26:48,400 - [Interviewer] Is that why you're optimistic? 1823 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,733 - Yes, I'm optimistic, I believe that God 1824 01:26:50,733 --> 01:26:52,767 has given promises that the world 1825 01:26:52,767 --> 01:26:55,167 will be successfully evangelized 1826 01:26:55,167 --> 01:26:57,000 and I believe that in the long run 1827 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,967 stupidity never works. 1828 01:26:58,967 --> 01:27:00,967 So I believe that the great commission 1829 01:27:00,967 --> 01:27:02,900 will be successfully fulfilled, 1830 01:27:02,900 --> 01:27:04,933 all the nations of men will be discipled, 1831 01:27:04,933 --> 01:27:06,533 they will be baptized, they will be taught 1832 01:27:06,533 --> 01:27:08,233 obedience to Jesus Christ. 1833 01:27:09,067 --> 01:27:14,067 (bold music) 1834 01:27:32,733 --> 01:27:34,567 Picture a soldier pinned down behind 1835 01:27:34,567 --> 01:27:37,200 a sand dune on Normandy Beach. 1836 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,833 He's just landed, he's behind 1837 01:27:38,833 --> 01:27:41,867 a sand dune, he can't get to the next 1838 01:27:41,867 --> 01:27:44,100 sand dune, he can't achieve his next 1839 01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:46,500 objective because he's pinned down by 1840 01:27:46,500 --> 01:27:49,000 enemy fire, he's just stuck, and he's in 1841 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,533 a bad jam. 1842 01:27:58,933 --> 01:28:01,233 Suppose that at this moment, we'll make 1843 01:28:01,233 --> 01:28:04,200 the illustration ludicrous, that a stray sheet of paper 1844 01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:09,200 from Eisenhower's invasion plans of Europe 1845 01:28:10,067 --> 01:28:11,000 got detached from the notebook 1846 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:12,900 and is blowing down the beach, 1847 01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:14,900 and it lands on this soldier, and he 1848 01:28:14,900 --> 01:28:17,367 looks at it, and says, General Eisenhower, 1849 01:28:17,367 --> 01:28:20,533 in the orders Eisenhower to establish 1850 01:28:20,533 --> 01:28:22,100 a beach head on the continent of Europe 1851 01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:24,400 and to take Berlin. 1852 01:28:46,667 --> 01:28:49,367 And he looks at these orders, and he 1853 01:28:49,367 --> 01:28:52,900 can't even get past his own sand dune. 1854 01:28:52,900 --> 01:28:56,133 He could be tempted to despair, on the one hand, 1855 01:28:56,133 --> 01:28:59,800 because how can we do this when I can't even do that? 1856 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,033 But he could also be, if he's thinking about it rightly, 1857 01:29:03,033 --> 01:29:05,667 he could be greatly encouraged and say, 1858 01:29:05,667 --> 01:29:09,367 however stuck I am, there are grand forces 1859 01:29:09,367 --> 01:29:10,667 in front of me. 1860 01:29:10,667 --> 01:29:12,067 However stuck I am, there are whole 1861 01:29:12,067 --> 01:29:14,667 armies in collision, I'm just one small 1862 01:29:14,667 --> 01:29:17,000 part of the puzzle, I'm just one small 1863 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,833 part of this, the only thing I can do, 1864 01:29:18,833 --> 01:29:20,800 is be faithful at my post, be faithful 1865 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,200 where I am, and if I am, then I'll 1866 01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,000 just leave the results to the sovereign god. 1867 01:29:46,833 --> 01:29:48,067 And that's how I feel. 1868 01:29:48,067 --> 01:29:49,933 There are times when I feel stuck 1869 01:29:49,933 --> 01:29:52,100 behind my sand dune. 1870 01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:53,700 There are times when I feel like, 1871 01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:55,500 why can't we do more, why can't 1872 01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:57,867 we communicate more effectively, 1873 01:29:57,867 --> 01:29:59,633 why can't we get this done. 1874 01:29:59,633 --> 01:30:02,767 And then a page of Mathew 28 blows 1875 01:30:02,767 --> 01:30:05,667 down the beach, all authority on Heaven and Earth 1876 01:30:05,667 --> 01:30:08,167 is given to me, Jesus said, therefore go disciple 1877 01:30:08,167 --> 01:30:10,300 the nations, baptizing them, teaching them to 1878 01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:12,400 obey all that I've commanded. 1879 01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,200 The Christian faith is a religion 1880 01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,667 of world conquest. 1881 01:30:31,967 --> 01:30:33,833 It's nothing short of that. 1882 01:30:33,833 --> 01:30:36,367 The Christian faith is a religion of world conquest 1883 01:30:36,367 --> 01:30:39,200 not by arms, not by carnal weapons, 1884 01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:43,267 but by preaching the gospel, declaring the gospel, 1885 01:30:43,267 --> 01:30:46,567 and by not falling all over yourself 1886 01:30:46,567 --> 01:30:51,167 to apologize for God's hard edged 1887 01:30:51,167 --> 01:30:54,233 definitions of sin, because the Bible says 1888 01:30:54,233 --> 01:30:55,867 you evangelize the world by preaching 1889 01:30:55,867 --> 01:31:00,233 repentance, repentance of sin, and belief in Jesus. 1890 01:31:00,233 --> 01:31:02,100 You repent of your sins, you turn 1891 01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:03,833 away from your sins, and you turn 1892 01:31:03,833 --> 01:31:05,600 to Jesus Christ. 1893 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,033 Christian preachers have to be allowed 1894 01:31:16,033 --> 01:31:19,367 to define that sin out of the Bible. 1895 01:31:19,367 --> 01:31:22,667 That sin is self absorption, self centeredness, 1896 01:31:22,667 --> 01:31:26,533 lust, covetousness, malice, envy, 1897 01:31:26,533 --> 01:31:30,100 hatred, all these things, and the Bible 1898 01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:32,633 defines homosexual sin as a very grievous, 1899 01:31:32,633 --> 01:31:35,533 very serious sin, and it's one of the things 1900 01:31:35,533 --> 01:31:37,100 that people have to turn away from 1901 01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:40,000 in repentance if they want to be saved. 1902 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,667 The apostle Paul lists homosexual sins 1903 01:31:42,667 --> 01:31:46,533 in Corinthians right among a couple 1904 01:31:46,533 --> 01:31:48,567 words for homosexual behavior 1905 01:31:48,567 --> 01:31:50,367 in the middle of a list of other sins, 1906 01:31:50,367 --> 01:31:52,433 and he says people who live this way 1907 01:31:52,433 --> 01:31:54,633 will not inherit the kingdom of God. 1908 01:31:54,633 --> 01:31:56,667 So we're preaching the kingdom of God, 1909 01:31:56,667 --> 01:31:58,800 we have to preach repentance from sin, 1910 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,167 and faith in Jesus. 1911 01:32:00,167 --> 01:32:05,067 And there are too many Christians too ready 1912 01:32:05,067 --> 01:32:07,733 to capitulate on these definitions of what 1913 01:32:07,733 --> 01:32:11,000 sin it, without realizing they've just, 1914 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,433 they say, well let's not get into politics, 1915 01:32:13,433 --> 01:32:15,233 let's just emphasize the gospel, 1916 01:32:15,233 --> 01:32:18,033 not realizing that they've just abandoned 1917 01:32:18,033 --> 01:32:20,833 50 percent of what gospel preachers 1918 01:32:20,833 --> 01:32:22,633 are required to proclaim. 1919 01:32:22,633 --> 01:32:24,967 Repentance and then faith. 138342

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