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It was just an accident. Charge him.
With? Murder. What about her?
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We've got enough. We'll get more.
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He's cutting your throat.
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It's not uncommon,
this kind of defence.
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And this is not the first complaint
made against Dhillon as it goes.
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It was the first. Some girl called
Lucinda Bright.
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Case was heard by a panel chaired by
a geezer called Stephen Vendler,
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who also happens to be an old pal
of the Harwoods.
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You have to shift the focus onto
Vendler's affair with Talitha.
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The eagle has landed.
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They're all calling me Lady Tease.
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So she was sleeping with Vendler.
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I told Talitha that Hannah had
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complained to me about
Dhillon Harwood.
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Talitha is a liar. She'll say or do
anything to get attention.
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If you're going to be put on
show to a bunch of pervy men,
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you may as well get paid for it.
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Your mother put you on show?
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This is a moment where Dhillon
has the scarf in his possession.
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Stick it with the rest of the...
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The police don't like you.
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You need to tell me anything
that can help your defence.
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And we don't have to show exactly
what happened in the room,
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but they both went there, and a few
hours later, Hannah is in the river.
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Yes, and we're not going to let
Dhillon's defence say it was only
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Talitha, because who the hell
doesn't notice that a girl
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is being strangled to death?
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DEVICE CHIMES
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Get in!
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Is it a match?
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The micro fragment from Talitha's
bracelet matches the rucksack.
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That's it. We got her.
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ANIMATED DISTANT SHOUTING
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THEY SHOUT, CHANT
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Dhillon Harwood and Tabitha Campbell
arrived at court this morning,
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escorted by police
from their respective prisons,
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where they're currently held...
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Considerable interest given the
backgrounds of both defendants
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and protests... There have been
reports of traffic chaos
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in Bristol today as campaigners
surrounded the Central Crown Court.
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Delays are expected...
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The much anticipated trial of
Talitha Campbell and Dillon Harwood.
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Both defendants entered not guilty
pleas to the charge of murder
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earlier this year. Speculation
about his daughter, the so-called
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Lady Tease, the Crown Prosecution
Service reminds all concerned...
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An inquiry into leaks to the media
has today been launched,
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amidst claims that the ensuing
social media speculation
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may have compromised...
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The murder of Hannah Ellis in June
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this year has continued to draw
interest.
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Now, the jury will hear the evidence
that led to two establishment
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figures charged with murder.
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Dhillon Harwood and Talitha Campbell
attended the university summer ball
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together on the night of Hannah's
murder.
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Later, you, the jury, will hear
about an argument at the ball
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about Hannah's threats to call
the police
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and her subsequent distress.
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The threats before the ball
and the argument at the ball give us
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a vital clue as to the motives
of the defendants,
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which revolved around the complaints
made against Dhillon Harwood.
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We know that Dhillon Harwood
and Talitha Campbell left the ball
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some time after Hannah
had finished her shift.
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Dhillon Harwood does not deny
that they formed the intent
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to visit her and indeed did so,
but claims her death was an accident
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in which he played no part.
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This can be rejected for the
cynical falsehood it so plainly is.
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We do not know what they really
discussed on their fateful journey
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to the house or when they formed
the intent to assault and kill her.
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We DO know that they had consumed
a lot of illegal drugs
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and that not more than an hour after
Talitha Campbell and Dhillon Harwood
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entered her room, Hannah
was strangled with the scarf worn
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by Talitha Campbell to the ball
that night.
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And then her body was disposed
of with cruel indifference.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
that is the case which the Crown
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will prove to you. It can leave no
doubt in your mind that both
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Dhillon Harwood and Talitha Campbell
are guilty of the cruel murder
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of a young woman with everything
to look forward to in life.
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Thank you, Mr Reynolds.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
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you have now heard the opening
speech for the prosecution.
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Both defence teams have indicated
that they also wish to make
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an opening speech.
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Miss Hemmings is representing
Talitha Campbell and Miss Barie
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is representing Dhillon Harwood.
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Dhillon did not send threatening
texts.
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It was not HIS scarf that caused
Hannah's death.
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Dhillon Harwood accepts
that he was there.
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But blames Talitha for the actual
death.
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He is guilty of terrible judgment
and of being unduly influenced.
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He is not guilty of murder.
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He and his defence will do
everything to attack the character
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of my client.
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But it's not Talitha's character
that is on trial here.
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The dysfunction and unequal
friendship
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fully explain why he colluded with
her disastrous decisions
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on that tragic night.
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The only thing you have to ask
yourself at the end
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of this trial is this.
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Do you have any doubt?
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I am sure that after we have
reviewed all of the evidence,
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you will have a great deal of doubt
as to the guilt of Talitha Campbell.
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And if you do...
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..you must acquit her.
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Damian Campbell, the controversial
property magnate at the end
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of the first day of the trial
of his daughter Talitha.
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He's in court with her legal team.
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CLAMOURING
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Much of the first day has been
taken up by legal arguments
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and the opening statements
for the prosecution
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and both defendants.
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Dhillon Harwood has already pleaded
guilty to the lesser charge
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of preventing a lawful burial and
perverting the course of justice,
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but he denies murder.
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Meanwhile, Talitha Campbell denies
all the charges against her.
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What can I expect if I'm only
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sentenced to the unlawful burial
charge?
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Maximum is still life,
but it can be as low as a fine.
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Average, five to eight years, so...
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There's also perverting
the course of justice, remember.
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I deserve punishment for all
of that.
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That's not the important thing.
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What's the important thing?
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The truth, Mum.
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I don't mind what I'm known
for, being on the spectrum,
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being an idiot,
being Talitha's Chihuahua.
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That's what they used to call me
in school. But not a murderer.
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OK, can we talk a little
about Lucinda Bright?
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Yeah. She's completely nuts.
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Anybody will tell you.
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God, I wish I'd never even heard
her name.
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It'll be OK, sweetheart.
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Just try and stay calm and tell
the truth.
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That's all you can do.
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Mrs Campbell wasn't in court.
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She couldn't face it.
It's for the best, really.
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I don't think her presence
would have been a big
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comfort to Tali.
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Has it ever been?
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Is this relevant to anything?
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I don't know. Is it?
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Well, I'm no lawyer, but my hunch
would be that providing
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an explanation of their new forensic
evidence would be higher
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on your to-do list than raking
through my wife's parenting skills.
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Got it. Good.
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Oh, surf's up. Is this DI Cassidy in
the morning?
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I know, I'll be handling that.
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Well, I thought solicitors
didn't speak... Solicitor advocate.
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I'll do some cross-examination
of police witnesses, and I know
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Paula Cassidy well.
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What about Talitha? That'll
obviously be my silk, but nothing's
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decided on that anyway.
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You're going to put her in the box,
though.
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It's still all under discussion.
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There are some issues.
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There's only one issue.
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This is a show trial.
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It won't be decided on the evidence,
but on her and on us, and on...
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..this. By the media, sure.
But the jury decide.
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Well, if 99% of humanity is anything
to go by,
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the jury will absolutely hate her.
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I don't hate her.
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I know. You need to push her on that
rucksack fragment
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they found on the bracelet.
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Or she's in big trouble.
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Talking to her in the morning.
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I bet they planted it.
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I bet it was that Cassidy,
that stupid, ugly, evil bitch.
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Hey, stop. Stop it.
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How else could a fragment
from Hannah's rucksack have gotten
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snagged on your bracelet?
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Oh, what, I can talk now?
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I haven't got a clue.
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Then try and wrack your brains
because it might make a significant
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difference to the rest of your life.
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TALITHA LAUGHS
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I made you cross. You often
make me cross, Talitha.
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And think hard because I am
really not messing around here.
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Everything depends on this.
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This is the only piece of forensic
evidence that directly ties
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you to the murder scene.
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Wait.
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She lent it to me once to go
to Paris.
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Did she? Course she fucking didn't!
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Could you imagine me walking
around the Marais with that piece
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of high street nylon crap?
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KNOCK AT DOOR, DOOR OPENS
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They are ready.
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Thank you.
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Let's go.
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I do solemnly, sincerely and truly
declare and affirm that the evidence
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I shall give shall be the truth,
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the whole truth and nothing
but the truth.
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If I could ask the jury to please
look at photograph 7C?
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Could you describe the photo,
Detective Inspector?
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Yes, it's the fireplace
at Dhillon Harwood's cottage.
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Is that where he burned
the evidence? Yes.
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He was also burning some
of his own clothes.
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Does that appear strange to you?
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That's not an appropriate
question, Mr Reynolds.
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DI Cassidy is here to give evidence,
not opinion,
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as you know perfectly well.
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Apologies, My Lady.
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Were the clothes very burned?
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Yes. All the clothes, including a
scarf? Yes.
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And where else were fibres
from that scarf found?
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On Hannah's body and also a single
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fibre found in Talitha's drawer
at home?
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Were the fibres
all from the same scarf?
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All the same scarf.
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Do you have any doubt that Talitha
Campbell's scarf
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was the murder weapon?
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None whatsoever.
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And does the evidence show
Talitha Campbell wearing the scarf
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throughout the entire ball? Yes.
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We scrutinised all the mobile and
photographic footage,
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and in every single piece
of evidence,
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Talitha is shown to be wearing
the scarf.
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In the CCTV footage of Miss Campbell
walking home from the ball,
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is she wearing the green scarf?
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We...couldn't tell.
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Let me rephrase that so you can give
the jury a yes or no answer.
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Does your last sighting
of Miss Campbell on the night
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of the ball show her wearing
the scarf used to kill Hannah Ellis?
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No.
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Who was the last person
to have possession of the scarf?
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Well, if you mean...
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The CCTV didn't show...
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I mean precisely what I said.
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Who was the last person to have
possession of the scarf used
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to murder Hannah Ellis?
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Dhillon Harwood at the cottage,
obviously, but on the night
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of the ball itself...
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Thank you, DI Cassidy,
you've already answered my question.
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Who is Troy Manners?
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An individual we eliminated
from our inquiries.
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Ah, yes. Yeah.
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Your original line of inquiry
was that Miss Campbell had hired him
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to murder Hannah Ellis.
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That was ONE line of inquiry.
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A false one.
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He provided an alibi.
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Hannah Ellis' bank card was used
almost immediately
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after her disappearance.
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Is that correct? Yes.
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In the West Midlands area? Yes.
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Does Miss Campbell have any
connection to the West Midlands,
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to the best of your knowledge?
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No, not to the best of my knowledge.
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Does Troy Manners have connections
to the West Midlands? Yes.
250
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Was Troy Manners at the ball
at any time? Yes.
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Is it the case that Hannah Ellis'
bank card was discovered at the home
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of someone who does have connections
to Troy Manners?
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Yes.
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LIGHT MURMUR
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But you ruled him out.
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Who?
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Troy Manners. Yes.
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SHE EXHALES DEEPLY
259
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Are you familiar with the term
confirmation bias, DI Cassidy?
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I didn't expect her to motor on
Troy. Threw down a sudden googly
261
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when you weren't expecting it.
262
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Yeah. Well, it made the jury
frown, though.
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Who is Troy Manners?
Why isn't he here?
264
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Are they just trying to cover
something up?
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Talitha could have given him
the card. And so could Dhillon.
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And so could any number of the
students, and that was the point.
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But you didn't want to consider that
268
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cos you'd made your mind up from the
get go. Uh, wait a sec, Sooty.
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Can I just check you haven't got a
defence hand up your jacksie
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moving your mouth?
271
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You should be more worried
about the noise in the jury room
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because they're going to be
discussing Troy Manners right now.
273
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I guarantee it. No.
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It'll be fine.
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I have been sent a note from the
jury asking for more information
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about Troy Manners, specifically
asking to hear his evidence.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
I should remind you that only
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the prosecution and defence
decide who gives evidence.
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And on that evidence alone, will you
be asked to reach your verdicts.
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We'll adjourn for lunch.
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All rise.
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Brian.
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DOOR CLOSES
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The bracelet.
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This again.
286
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Green Man.
287
00:18:42,660 --> 00:18:44,620
What about it?
What can you tell me about it?
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It's a music festival in Cornwall.
289
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It's a music festival in Wales.
290
00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:50,460
Oh, yeah. Who did you go with?
291
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Dhillon. And...?
292
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Man, I don't know.
293
00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:55,540
There was a bunch of us, really.
294
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It was absolutely shit.
295
00:18:57,340 --> 00:18:59,420
I never wanted to go because I hate
festivals.
296
00:18:59,420 --> 00:19:02,980
You'll never guess what, though.
What? It was sunny.
297
00:19:02,980 --> 00:19:04,340
I know, in Wales.
298
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I do know because there's a photo
of you in the paper
299
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with Hannah at the festival.
300
00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:14,780
Is there, really? How do I look?
301
00:19:14,780 --> 00:19:17,540
Brian has found out who took
the photo.
302
00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:20,700
It's from the Facebook page
of Amber Morton.
303
00:19:22,020 --> 00:19:27,180
Never met her. Yes, you have. You've
just got a sieve-shaped brain.
304
00:19:27,180 --> 00:19:30,540
Oh, wait. Red hair, eyes.
305
00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:33,300
Yes, yes, she does have red hair
and eyes.
306
00:19:33,300 --> 00:19:36,860
No, but they're those really close
together eyes, and quite a big nose.
307
00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:38,460
I quite like that look, to be fair.
308
00:19:38,460 --> 00:19:40,740
In fact, I may have snogged her.
309
00:19:42,620 --> 00:19:46,420
So, question one, did you all take
rucksacks?
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Probably. And question two...
311
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..did you wear the bracelet?
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I don't know.
313
00:20:01,820 --> 00:20:02,860
Great.
314
00:20:04,060 --> 00:20:08,180
Why don't you check the photo?
We have. It's not clear.
315
00:20:08,180 --> 00:20:10,140
Get Brian to hunt down Amber.
316
00:20:12,020 --> 00:20:15,460
I should change to a law degree when
this is all over, I'm good at this.
317
00:20:17,860 --> 00:20:21,060
If I'm found guilty, though,
I'll kill myself.
318
00:20:23,020 --> 00:20:26,100
I'm not being melodramatic, Cleo.
319
00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:27,420
I definitely will.
320
00:20:29,460 --> 00:20:30,500
OK.
321
00:20:39,420 --> 00:20:40,460
OK.
322
00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:44,020
Take a breath.
323
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SHE INHALES DEEPLY
324
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SHE EXHALES
325
00:20:51,780 --> 00:20:54,180
We have to nullify that bracelet.
326
00:20:57,260 --> 00:20:58,780
SHE SIGHS
327
00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:01,820
So who are the big fish for us?
328
00:21:01,820 --> 00:21:04,020
Well, there's forensics
still to come, the bracelet.
329
00:21:04,020 --> 00:21:05,380
That looks like a slam dunk,
330
00:21:05,380 --> 00:21:08,420
and then there's the whole
Vendler thing. Yeah.
331
00:21:08,420 --> 00:21:11,460
And how many sleeps till Talitha?
332
00:21:11,460 --> 00:21:14,660
Well, all the Vendler stuff comes
with a big warning sign
333
00:21:14,660 --> 00:21:16,100
marked admissibility.
334
00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:17,380
Especially the widow.
335
00:21:17,380 --> 00:21:21,180
Hopefully, it'll just be the cherry
on top of the forensics cake.
336
00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:23,260
I thought I might go an see
Mrs Vendler.
337
00:21:23,260 --> 00:21:27,500
Just to warn her that the judge
might bar her evidence as hearsay.
338
00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:31,580
Good idea. No coaching, obviously.
339
00:21:31,580 --> 00:21:36,300
Oh, don't worry, I understand James
is really good with widows.
340
00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:38,220
OTHERS CHUCKLE
341
00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:38,220
Behave!
342
00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:39,780
I'm only teasing. And you'd be
343
00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:41,860
making that joke if I was a woman,
right?
344
00:21:41,860 --> 00:21:45,020
Ooh, men have feelings, too.
345
00:21:45,020 --> 00:21:46,700
Let me know how it goes, will you?
346
00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:48,060
No, I won't actually, Paula,
347
00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:49,980
because you've actually
hurt my feelings.
348
00:21:49,980 --> 00:21:53,540
Aw! So I'm going to be mansplaining
this to Jenny later.
349
00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:56,500
Oh, right. Well, see you. Good luck.
350
00:21:58,820 --> 00:22:02,460
So you're an academic too? Sort of.
351
00:22:02,460 --> 00:22:06,180
I teach part time on a creative
writing course, and I also
352
00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:09,380
have a writer's grant. Really?
What do you write? I'm a poet.
353
00:22:09,380 --> 00:22:12,180
Great. Why?
354
00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:15,140
Sorry? Why is it great?
355
00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:20,100
Well, just, it sounds better
than Crown prosecutor, I guess.
356
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:21,780
Do you like poetry, Mr Thornley?
357
00:22:21,780 --> 00:22:24,140
Jeez, I don't really read a lot
any more, to be honest.
358
00:22:24,140 --> 00:22:25,580
Most people don't.
359
00:22:25,580 --> 00:22:28,260
That's why I also have to teach.
360
00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:30,900
There was a poem I liked
when I was a kid, though. I think
361
00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:33,780
it's called Flannen Isle.
362
00:22:33,780 --> 00:22:38,180
While three men dwell on
Flannan Isle...
363
00:22:38,180 --> 00:22:39,740
That's it.
364
00:22:39,740 --> 00:22:42,500
The over-toppled chair. Spooky.
365
00:22:50,460 --> 00:22:52,580
We still don't know if the judge
will admit your evidence.
366
00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:54,660
Both defences will argue
that it's hearsay
367
00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:56,460
and shouldn't be heard by the jury.
368
00:22:58,140 --> 00:23:00,900
She sounds like quite a girl,
this Talitha Campbell.
369
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:05,620
Looks ghastly in the newspapers.
370
00:23:05,620 --> 00:23:09,020
In fairness, they are emphasising
the particular side to her.
371
00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:10,820
I suppose so.
372
00:23:10,820 --> 00:23:12,340
Lady Tease. Yeah.
373
00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:14,860
Poor little rich girl.
Is she beautiful?
374
00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:21,780
I guess. I mean, she wouldn't be
my type, essentially. Why not?
375
00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:25,780
I'm not sure. What is your type?
376
00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:29,340
I'm not sure about that, either.
377
00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:32,220
Are you a good husband?
378
00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:35,820
I think you should ask my wife.
379
00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:38,140
Could you resist her?
380
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:40,540
Yes.
381
00:23:40,540 --> 00:23:43,220
Stephen said to me once
there is no man who does not
382
00:23:43,220 --> 00:23:45,460
immediately evaluate a woman
in terms of whether he would
383
00:23:45,460 --> 00:23:47,220
like to fuck her or not.
384
00:23:48,620 --> 00:23:53,140
Maybe that's true, but...normal life
385
00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:56,220
like happiness, society...
386
00:23:57,860 --> 00:23:59,340
..luckily, they're not really
387
00:23:59,340 --> 00:24:01,220
dependent on people's thoughts,
so...
388
00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:06,060
..it's not a very interesting
or useful thing to say, really.
389
00:24:09,060 --> 00:24:10,860
That's a good answer.
390
00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:15,700
Stephen didn't kill himself because
I found out he'd slept
391
00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:17,140
with another student.
392
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:22,380
He killed himself because he had
a conscience
393
00:24:22,380 --> 00:24:27,020
and he was convinced he had caused
those two narcissistic monsters
394
00:24:27,020 --> 00:24:28,820
to murder that poor girl.
395
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:39,220
CHANTING: Justice for Hannah!
Justice for Hannah!
396
00:24:39,220 --> 00:24:41,060
Justice for Hannah!
397
00:24:41,060 --> 00:24:45,500
So there are many small diamonds and
emeralds
398
00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:50,860
arranged in 12 larger clusters of
stones and 11 links between them.
399
00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:51,900
OK.
400
00:24:53,260 --> 00:24:56,060
With My Lady's permission?
401
00:24:56,060 --> 00:24:57,100
Go ahead.
402
00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:04,100
So you can see, it is a perfectly
normal rucksack.
403
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:08,300
This is a replica of the one
that Hannah kept in her cupboard,
404
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:13,260
along with the sleeping bag used
to dispose of her body in the river.
405
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:20,020
Dr English. We found a nylon fibre
matching the constituent fibres
406
00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:22,580
of the rucksack in colour
and composition
407
00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:27,300
caught in the bracelet Talitha
Campbell was wearing to the ball.
408
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:28,660
How did it get there?
409
00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:32,780
So we think when shouldering
the rucksack,
410
00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:37,380
this part snagged in one of the
casings holding the diamonds,
411
00:25:37,380 --> 00:25:39,140
which have tiny claws.
412
00:25:39,140 --> 00:25:41,580
So let me be very clear.
413
00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:47,460
A fragment from the rucksack used
to dispose of the body
414
00:25:47,460 --> 00:25:52,140
was found on a bracelet worn
by Talitha Campbell?
415
00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:53,620
Yes.
416
00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:56,300
And what is your conclusion
based on that?
417
00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:59,900
Well, given that the rucksack
was used to weight the body,
418
00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:04,220
it strongly supports the idea
that Talitha Campbell was involved
419
00:26:04,220 --> 00:26:06,780
in the disposing of the body
of the deceased.
420
00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:08,260
LIGHT MURMUR
421
00:26:08,260 --> 00:26:09,500
No more questions.
422
00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:15,700
The rucksack used to weight
the body,
423
00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:20,180
that was Hannah Ellis' rucksack,
am I correct?
424
00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:24,820
Yes. A rucksack she would have used
on other occasions.
425
00:26:24,820 --> 00:26:26,860
I have no knowledge of that.
426
00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:30,860
The jury will hear she was given
the rucksack along with the
427
00:26:30,860 --> 00:26:35,180
sleeping bag by her mother on her
19th birthday.
428
00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:36,980
I'll take your word for it.
429
00:26:36,980 --> 00:26:42,660
Do you know how long a
micro fragment could remain trapped
430
00:26:42,660 --> 00:26:44,380
like that in a bracelet?
431
00:26:44,380 --> 00:26:46,820
I don't have an estimate for that.
432
00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:48,500
Wouldn't have come loose
any time soon?
433
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,500
I don't really understand
your question.
434
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:58,820
If Talitha Campbell had handled the
rucksack at any point in the year
435
00:26:58,820 --> 00:27:01,100
that Hannah Ellis had owned it,
436
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:03,780
could the nylon fragment
have become snagged then?
437
00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:05,940
It grows increasingly unlikely that
438
00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:08,340
it would stay there over time,
of course.
439
00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:11,740
Well, would it amaze you,
Dr English?
440
00:27:11,740 --> 00:27:16,300
would it be like seeing rain falling
upwards
441
00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:18,300
or Rovers winning at home?
442
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:19,900
CHUCKLING
443
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:24,140
Not everybody understands a football
joke, Miss Hemmings, but I assume
444
00:27:24,140 --> 00:27:27,020
you want us to consider
this event is at the
445
00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:28,460
outer limits of plausibility?
446
00:27:28,460 --> 00:27:31,740
I do, My Lady, and please excuse
the levity.
447
00:27:31,740 --> 00:27:34,140
This is a most serious matter.
448
00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:37,540
As I say, I don't like to speculate.
449
00:27:37,540 --> 00:27:40,220
I'm not asking you to speculate.
450
00:27:40,220 --> 00:27:44,700
Could the nylon fragment
have remained trapped
451
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:46,380
for as long as a year?
452
00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,500
Yes, it is possible.
453
00:27:56,740 --> 00:28:00,180
They're obviously going to suggest
that Talitha plus bracelet plus
454
00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:05,220
rucksack came together on a previous
date. When? No idea, but I'm sure
455
00:28:05,220 --> 00:28:09,060
we'll find out when they bring
in their forensics and-or Talitha.
456
00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:11,700
Maybe they're bluffing and haven't
got anything.
457
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:13,900
Do you think Talitha will give
evidence?
458
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:17,060
I imagine that's a question giving
them a few sleepless nights.
459
00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:22,980
My guess, they're still working
on the bracelet.
460
00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:27,340
Either way, they've got
a massive accumulation problem.
461
00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:30,380
You can get away with one
possible but unlikely.
462
00:28:30,380 --> 00:28:35,060
I still think with a scarf
as well, we're ahead.
463
00:28:35,060 --> 00:28:39,100
What's happening with Talitha's
porn history and the femdom stuff?
464
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:43,020
Judge is giving her decision Monday
morning. Can't see her allowing it.
465
00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:44,900
We don't need it.
466
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:47,900
Lydia Vendler is the game changer.
467
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:49,780
Agreed.
468
00:28:49,780 --> 00:28:51,420
She is compelling.
469
00:28:51,420 --> 00:28:55,020
But both defences will be preying
it's ruled as hearsay,
470
00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:57,740
given the real witness took a header
off the towel
471
00:28:57,740 --> 00:29:00,620
and was clearly not in his right
mind. Hm.
472
00:29:01,780 --> 00:29:05,420
What does that mean?
Incoming coming metaphor.
473
00:29:05,420 --> 00:29:07,980
Don't bet the ranch on it.
474
00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:10,900
Which defence team will be most
scared of Lydia Vendler,
475
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:12,420
do you reckon? Talitha's.
476
00:29:13,540 --> 00:29:14,580
Good.
477
00:29:15,980 --> 00:29:18,740
That lot think they can buy
their way out of anything.
478
00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:21,940
HELICOPTER WHIRS
479
00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:33,540
So what happens next on
the rucksack? We fired our gun
480
00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:35,580
and there are no more bullets
left in the chamber.
481
00:29:35,580 --> 00:29:37,860
Amber Mortman is
proving a bit elusive,
482
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:40,220
disabled her social media
and gone to ground.
483
00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:42,860
Well, find her.
It's what I pay you for.
484
00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:45,220
Don't talk to me like that.
485
00:29:45,220 --> 00:29:46,420
But, yeah, we're on it.
486
00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:49,100
Which means they will only
have our word for the idea
487
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,380
that Talitha wore the bracelet
to the festival.
488
00:29:51,380 --> 00:29:53,420
Did she say she did?
489
00:29:53,420 --> 00:29:54,900
It's Talitha.
490
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:56,060
OK.
491
00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:58,540
The helicopter's here.
492
00:29:58,540 --> 00:30:00,900
I heard.
Going anywhere nice?
493
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:02,380
Scotland.
494
00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:07,460
Oh.
Not your thing, I imagine, Cleo.
495
00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:09,540
Not really.
You disapprove.
496
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:11,500
A bit, yes.
Thought you might?
497
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,580
Well, largely on aesthetic grounds.
Oh, aesthetic grounds.
498
00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:16,100
That's right.
499
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,980
Care to elaborate. I'm intrigued.
500
00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:19,180
OK.
501
00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:21,740
I don't care for the whole look,
502
00:30:21,740 --> 00:30:25,180
from the Balmoral clothes
to the Land Rovers.
503
00:30:25,180 --> 00:30:26,860
It's just not me. No.
504
00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:28,740
And while I'm not
especially right-on,
505
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:31,100
there is
something deeply stupid to me
506
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:34,180
about blasting
delicate creatures out of the sky
507
00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:37,540
just because you have
the means to do so. Deeply stupid.
508
00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:41,580
Do you hear what your lawyer thinks
about us, darling? I did.
509
00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:43,660
But she's quite right.
510
00:30:43,660 --> 00:30:48,900
It is stupidly satisfying to
blast something smaller than oneself
511
00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:51,140
into a mass of blood and feathers.
512
00:30:52,460 --> 00:30:57,340
Have a nice weekend, everyone,
and we'll reconvene Sunday evening.
513
00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:06,740
Spam!
514
00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:10,740
Hey, look!
515
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:13,780
I can't do it.
516
00:32:16,420 --> 00:32:20,420
I can't get up in that dock,
not with them looking at me.
517
00:32:20,420 --> 00:32:22,300
Andrea, they're
going to be in the docks,
518
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:24,180
you're going
to be in the witness stand.
519
00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:26,220
I won't be able to breathe.
520
00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:28,180
Or I'll scream
521
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:31,820
or I'll be sick or worse.
522
00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:35,700
The questions will be very quick
and easy.
523
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:38,100
Did you see Vendler?
What did he say?
524
00:32:39,340 --> 00:32:41,380
It's not about the questions.
525
00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:46,260
I'm scared.
526
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:47,940
I'm scared that I'll...
527
00:32:47,940 --> 00:32:49,220
I'll let her down.
528
00:32:49,220 --> 00:32:50,900
I get it, Andrea. I understand.
529
00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:53,820
For whatever it's worth,
530
00:32:53,820 --> 00:32:56,300
I don't think you've ever
let her down.
531
00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:02,580
What do you think Hannah
would say?
532
00:33:07,660 --> 00:33:09,420
She's not here, is she?
533
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:12,700
She can't say anything.
534
00:33:15,740 --> 00:33:17,620
Spam!
535
00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:20,340
Oh, she always does this. Spam!
536
00:33:20,340 --> 00:33:21,900
SPAM BARKS
537
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:23,380
Spam!
538
00:34:12,780 --> 00:34:14,260
Come on.
539
00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:16,260
Right, one, two three.
540
00:34:16,260 --> 00:34:17,780
Ready. Go.
541
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:20,780
Thank you very much.
542
00:34:20,780 --> 00:34:22,100
Oh, sweet baby James!
543
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:23,820
All right?
544
00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:25,860
I bet you didn't know
that was your nickname.
545
00:34:25,860 --> 00:34:26,900
Yes, I did, actually.
546
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:30,060
Oh, you going to be going round to
see and seeing Andrea?
547
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:31,220
Andy, knock it off.
548
00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:34,220
What? Your special grief counsellor.
Andy, I said, knock it off.
549
00:34:34,220 --> 00:34:37,340
Come on, Andy, that's not really on,
mate. That's not really on, mate.
550
00:34:37,340 --> 00:34:40,580
I'm joking!
Let me get you a drink, come on.
551
00:34:40,580 --> 00:34:42,580
I'm just going to say
happy birthday to Paula.
552
00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:45,020
Have you heard the latest odds
on a double conviction?
553
00:34:45,020 --> 00:34:47,660
What was it? Five to 11?
You fancy a bit of that?
554
00:34:47,660 --> 00:34:50,980
Well, I'm flattered you're so
confident, but not on my salary.
555
00:34:50,980 --> 00:34:53,700
I'd put all that ball footage
back in the schedule.
556
00:34:53,700 --> 00:34:56,180
Might improve it for him.
Get him involved a bit.
557
00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:57,260
Yeah, very funny.
558
00:34:57,260 --> 00:35:00,540
What ball footage is that, then?
559
00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:03,580
Oh, what is it? It's evens on just
Talitha, isn't it?
560
00:35:03,580 --> 00:35:05,180
Yeah, but who gives a fuck, eh?
561
00:35:05,180 --> 00:35:07,740
I'll just go say hi to Paula.
Yeah.
562
00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:11,780
See you in a bit.
563
00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:13,220
James! How are you doing?
564
00:35:13,220 --> 00:35:14,980
Happy birthday. Thanks.
565
00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:17,700
You absolute plonker.
Oh, we didn't know...
566
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:19,140
Of course he did.
567
00:35:20,980 --> 00:35:22,100
Two beers.
568
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:23,860
Do you thank he did?
569
00:35:28,820 --> 00:35:32,860
TANNOY: The session is now resuming
in Court Two. Courtroom Two.
570
00:35:36,460 --> 00:35:37,860
First,
571
00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:40,460
the pornographic history.
572
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:42,020
I'm certainly not going to allow
573
00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:45,540
witnesses discussing Talitha's
sexual behaviour in pornography
574
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:49,340
to be taken as
evidence of her own preferences.
575
00:35:49,340 --> 00:35:51,820
From a question of Lydia Vendler,
576
00:35:51,820 --> 00:35:53,820
I have given
this very careful thought
577
00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:55,700
and I am going
to allow her evidence.
578
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:58,860
My Lady, if I might...
Conserve your energy, Miss Hemmings,
579
00:35:58,860 --> 00:36:03,300
that is my decision having carefully
considered the pros and cons,
580
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:05,580
but I should
warn the prosecution
581
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:09,460
I will be watching very
carefully for anything I think
582
00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:11,620
is leading the witness.
583
00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:14,740
Now, I understand the first witness
today is...
584
00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:16,780
Lucinda Imogen Bright.
585
00:36:16,780 --> 00:36:18,380
Thank you, Miss Bright.
586
00:36:18,380 --> 00:36:19,900
Mr Reynolds?
587
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:23,460
Miss Bright, I'd like to start just
by taking you through the reasons
588
00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:27,860
behind your complaint to the college
authorities about Dhillon Harwood.
589
00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:29,820
It was very hard to describe.
590
00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:30,940
Of course.
591
00:36:32,180 --> 00:36:37,820
Did he ever take any photos
and videos of you without consent?
592
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:39,380
Yes.
593
00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:43,940
And did he ever turn
up at inappropriate times
594
00:36:43,940 --> 00:36:46,540
when you were not expecting him?
Yes.
595
00:36:46,540 --> 00:36:50,940
And he would leave me with presents,
like those French China clowns.
596
00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:53,460
You mean Pierrot?
Yeah, and it weirded me out.
597
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:56,940
Sometimes he said that he hated
possessions and that he wanted
598
00:36:56,940 --> 00:36:58,740
to, like, leave me all of his.
599
00:37:01,820 --> 00:37:07,020
Was there any...sexually
inappropriate behaviour?
600
00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:09,780
No.
601
00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:15,060
Yes.
602
00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:17,580
But that wasn't part of my
complaint.
603
00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:19,060
My Lady...
604
00:37:19,060 --> 00:37:21,300
Stop there, please, Mr Reynolds.
605
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:22,940
Members of the jury,
606
00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:26,300
a matter of law has arisen
and we will now ask you
607
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:28,500
to return to your room.
608
00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:35,420
I didn't.
It wasn't like that at all.
609
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:39,940
He started having sex with her while
she was still sleeping.
610
00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:42,220
I didn't know that, though.
611
00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:43,540
We'd already had sex.
612
00:37:43,540 --> 00:37:46,500
Look, she's a nutter, everybody know
that... She's a woman!
613
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:49,860
Any woman can be sexually
assaulted, including the nutters!
614
00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:52,380
I'd just assumed because we were
already in bed together
615
00:37:52,380 --> 00:37:54,820
and she was letting me...
And the lie about the condom?
616
00:37:54,820 --> 00:37:56,340
I misunderstood.
617
00:37:56,340 --> 00:37:57,700
Misunderstood?
618
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,740
How the hell do you misunderstand
"Are you wearing a condom?"
619
00:38:00,740 --> 00:38:02,580
OK, let's not get too emotional.
620
00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:05,460
The judge has ruled it inadmissible
as it didn't form part
621
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:07,340
of the complaint at the time.
622
00:38:07,340 --> 00:38:09,340
The jury
will be suspicious, though.
623
00:38:09,340 --> 00:38:11,300
Oh, she's a complete liar.
624
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:14,180
I'm going to have to go hard at her.
Really?
625
00:38:14,180 --> 00:38:16,660
She's bad for Dhillon.
626
00:38:16,660 --> 00:38:19,980
Sit it out if
you're faint-hearted, Meera,
627
00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:21,820
but we have no choice here.
628
00:38:32,580 --> 00:38:37,260
Miss Bright, I think it's correct
to say that you've had your fair
629
00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:39,580
share of internet conflicts.
630
00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:42,780
Please be more specific
with your question, Miss Baria.
631
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:46,140
How are we supposed to evaluate
a "fair share" in this day and age?
632
00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:49,420
You're quite right, My Lady.
That was too vague.
633
00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:53,420
You once, for example, gave
the personal details
634
00:38:53,420 --> 00:38:56,940
of an adversary online
in a practice known as 'doxing'.
635
00:38:56,940 --> 00:38:58,420
I deleted it.
636
00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:00,660
Could you tell the
court what that was about?
637
00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:02,780
So at the time, I was pretty
into witchcraft.
638
00:39:02,780 --> 00:39:06,340
I'm sorry, could you just speak up
a tiny bit for the jury?
639
00:39:06,340 --> 00:39:08,860
You were quite into..? Witchcraft.
640
00:39:08,860 --> 00:39:10,820
It's a thing, you know? But, like...
641
00:39:10,820 --> 00:39:13,620
But there was a dispute
where you claimed another student
642
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:17,740
was "negatively affecting
the energy of the full moon".
643
00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:19,140
Well, yeah, because he was.
644
00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:20,620
Where's all this going?
645
00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:24,580
That student, also Asian,
made a complaint against you
646
00:39:24,580 --> 00:39:27,540
that included an
allegation of racial harassment.
647
00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:28,660
Am I correct?
648
00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:32,580
He was half-Malaysian, but...
And that was upheld. Am I correct?
649
00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:34,180
Yes.
650
00:39:35,860 --> 00:39:39,340
Do you still consider
yourself to be a witch?
651
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:43,300
I consider it to be a legitimate
identity, yeah.
652
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:47,260
You believe being a racist witch
a legitimate identity?
653
00:39:47,260 --> 00:39:48,820
What? No, I didn't... My Lady...
654
00:39:48,820 --> 00:39:49,980
Miss Baria, please.
655
00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:54,620
Let's just leave it as somebody who
enjoys a complete fantasy, then,
656
00:39:54,620 --> 00:39:57,260
as the college disciplinary
panel concluded
657
00:39:57,260 --> 00:39:59,380
in the case of Dhillon Harwood.
658
00:40:04,420 --> 00:40:06,180
Thank you, Miss Bright.
659
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:14,580
Wow!
660
00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:16,980
SHE LAUGHS
661
00:40:16,980 --> 00:40:19,660
I just can't believe he had sex
with Lucinda Bright!
662
00:40:19,660 --> 00:40:22,060
Not quite sure that's the big
picture here.
663
00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:23,740
No, you're right.
664
00:40:23,740 --> 00:40:26,780
I can't believe
he never told me about it.
665
00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:30,980
Can you believe this sexual assault?
666
00:40:30,980 --> 00:40:32,820
Why it's not, really.
667
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:37,420
I mean, yes,
I suppose you could say,
668
00:40:37,420 --> 00:40:39,420
but there's
a lot worse than that.
669
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:41,940
That's a debate for another
time, but...
670
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:47,340
Do you consider what happened
to you to be worse than that?
671
00:40:51,860 --> 00:40:53,020
Orange.
672
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:56,460
I've been
thinking about the festival
673
00:40:56,460 --> 00:40:59,340
and I was definitely
wearing orange top. Right.
674
00:40:59,340 --> 00:41:00,580
We already know that.
675
00:41:00,580 --> 00:41:03,460
Which means I would have worn
the bracelet because I liked it
676
00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:06,500
with that top. OK, good.
677
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:08,260
Keep thinking.
678
00:41:08,260 --> 00:41:11,540
And also, anyone
else who might have photos?
679
00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:15,140
I'm OK until Jackson Browne.
680
00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:20,980
I remember him doing Stay,
which was amazing.
681
00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:23,900
Maurice Williams and The Zodiacs
did the original.
682
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,860
I did not know that.
683
00:41:25,860 --> 00:41:27,620
Well, now you do.
684
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:35,500
With what happened to me,
by the way.
685
00:41:37,420 --> 00:41:39,260
Stealth was never the issue.
686
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,420
Talitha was abused as a child.
687
00:42:02,740 --> 00:42:05,700
By her mother's friends.
Shit!
688
00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:08,940
Has Talitha..? Sort of.
689
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:12,020
We're getting there.
690
00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:15,820
OK, so what's the issue here?
691
00:42:15,820 --> 00:42:20,820
The issue is the case
against Talitha is very strong. Um.
692
00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:24,540
The scarf, the bracelet,
the history.
693
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:27,100
And you're
thinking of using her abuse
694
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:30,300
to change
the jury's perception of her.
695
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:32,180
Risky.
696
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:34,100
Damian Campbell won't let me.
697
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:35,220
SHE SIGHS
698
00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:38,540
You do not want a big
falling out with Damian.
699
00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:42,140
Uh... Bite the hand that feeds
us, you mean?
700
00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:44,260
Yeah, I do mean exactly that.
701
00:42:45,860 --> 00:42:48,780
So Lucinda was a bit of a let-down.
702
00:42:48,780 --> 00:42:51,860
Yeah, Dhillon's defence
battered her. It wasn't pretty.
703
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:54,500
The Establishment
Gets Ruthless Lawyers Shocker.
704
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:57,260
Aye. I don't think Meera Harwood
enjoyed it very much.
705
00:42:57,260 --> 00:42:59,820
If her son gets away with this,
she'll learn to live with it.
706
00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:01,540
He won't.
707
00:43:01,540 --> 00:43:04,540
Unlike Cassidy,
I don't just want Talitha.
708
00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:07,740
She needs to get
that prejudice out of sight.
709
00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:11,540
On that note, Jenny, I heard
something a bit disturbing. Mm-hm?
710
00:43:14,820 --> 00:43:18,340
So Andy Lowell was shit-faced at
Cassidy's birthday party.
711
00:43:18,340 --> 00:43:21,100
At a cops' piss up? Surely not?!
712
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:23,980
I get the impression that some
of the 'not relevant' material
713
00:43:23,980 --> 00:43:25,780
could stand another look.
714
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:31,220
It could always stand another look.
715
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:35,460
The establishment has got
good lawyers, James,
716
00:43:35,460 --> 00:43:37,140
so let them request it.
717
00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:42,260
Concentrate on what we want.
718
00:43:42,260 --> 00:43:43,860
A double conviction.
719
00:43:45,620 --> 00:43:46,900
Yeah.
720
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:52,540
CHATTER AND CLICKING CAMERAS
721
00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:54,740
How are you feeling today?
722
00:43:54,740 --> 00:43:56,980
Do you have any comments?
723
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:04,820
TV: The mother of Hannah Ellis
724
00:44:04,820 --> 00:44:07,780
arrived at Bristol Central Crown
Court today
725
00:44:07,780 --> 00:44:10,780
to testify in the case against
Talitha Campbell
726
00:44:10,780 --> 00:44:12,380
and Dhillon Harwood.
727
00:44:12,380 --> 00:44:14,900
She's expected to
reveal the details of a visit
728
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:19,020
she received from Dr Stephen Vendler
on the day he died.
729
00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:40,700
I'm going to be billing you by
the minute, Cleo.
730
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:43,020
Cash monies up front.
731
00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:44,420
I'm on legal aid.
732
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:48,340
You're a hard man to track
down, Troy.
733
00:44:48,340 --> 00:44:51,460
Yeah, I've been sorting
out some business in Cannock.
734
00:44:51,460 --> 00:44:54,540
Um! I'll start
preparing the mitigation plea.
735
00:45:01,580 --> 00:45:05,660
So you came up with the name
Lady Tease? Right.
736
00:45:05,660 --> 00:45:06,860
How come?
737
00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:08,780
Well, Lady T at first
738
00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:12,460
because her name's Talitha
and she's posh.
739
00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:17,900
Lady Tease when she wouldn't
let me fuck her.
740
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:20,140
OK, I see the progression.
741
00:45:20,140 --> 00:45:22,700
Hey, them papers making
her out to be some kind of slag,
742
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:25,140
but actually she
could be pretty picky.
743
00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:28,340
So you and Talitha
were kind of friends?
744
00:45:29,380 --> 00:45:32,540
Are we friends, Cleo?
No.
745
00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:34,180
No, see?
746
00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:37,300
I bet you're pretty picky
as well, aren't you?
747
00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:39,220
Rein it in, Troy.
748
00:45:39,220 --> 00:45:43,100
Look, some punters can tolerate more
than others, do you get me?
749
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:44,900
Did you?
750
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:48,540
I'd more time for Talitha than
most of them students.
751
00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:52,380
Why? Because she didn't try and go
all street on me,
752
00:45:52,380 --> 00:45:53,900
like some of them.
753
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:56,180
It's downright
embarrassing the way they talk,
754
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:58,740
as if they didn't grow
up in Custard-upon-Thames.
755
00:46:00,980 --> 00:46:03,460
You admired that about her.
756
00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:04,900
Yeah, I did.
757
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:08,180
It's why I won't go to them scum
from the papers,
758
00:46:08,180 --> 00:46:11,060
tell them all what Tals was
like in bed and that.
759
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:12,780
Fair play.
760
00:46:12,780 --> 00:46:14,780
You can't, though, can you?
761
00:46:14,780 --> 00:46:16,940
Oh, more's the pity, Cleo!
762
00:46:19,180 --> 00:46:21,140
But I've got an eye for
a bull-shitter.
763
00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:25,180
Can spot them from a distance.
764
00:46:25,180 --> 00:46:28,340
And Tal, she is what she is and she
made me laugh, but...
765
00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:31,340
She ain't no bull-shitter.
766
00:46:33,820 --> 00:46:35,820
So what about the credit cards?
767
00:46:36,980 --> 00:46:38,900
What about them?
768
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:40,820
Did Talitha give them to you?
769
00:46:40,820 --> 00:46:42,220
Nah.
770
00:46:42,220 --> 00:46:43,940
Did Dhillon? No.
771
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:53,300
You land me with a witness summons,
I blame everything on Talitha,
772
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:55,780
let's get that clear for a start.
773
00:46:57,220 --> 00:46:58,700
Go on.
774
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:10,660
Troy Manor's sister.
Mm-hm.
775
00:47:10,660 --> 00:47:14,580
She was helping him sell drugs
at the ball, but at some point Jodie
776
00:47:14,580 --> 00:47:16,260
makes her way to the cloakroom...
777
00:47:16,260 --> 00:47:18,620
Saw the bags and spotted
an opportunity.
778
00:47:18,620 --> 00:47:22,060
Got interrupted when she had nicked
just one or two.
779
00:47:22,060 --> 00:47:23,940
Hannah probably didn't even notice,
780
00:47:23,940 --> 00:47:27,420
although these days you can
just stop your card through an app,
781
00:47:27,420 --> 00:47:29,620
which is what
the others probably did.
782
00:47:29,620 --> 00:47:32,340
Hannah's was passed to a contact
in the West Midlands,
783
00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:34,420
where it was
mainly used at stations.
784
00:47:34,420 --> 00:47:36,740
We can check out any others,
but there's no point
785
00:47:36,740 --> 00:47:37,940
in him giving evidence.
786
00:47:37,940 --> 00:47:40,580
Complete waste of time.
787
00:47:40,580 --> 00:47:41,740
Not at all.
788
00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:43,700
One, the card issue was bugging me,
789
00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:45,420
so now we know.
790
00:47:45,420 --> 00:47:47,540
And two,
791
00:47:47,540 --> 00:47:48,980
he likes Talitha.
792
00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:51,100
Oh, fantastic (!)
793
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:54,460
A reference from
some drug-dealing scummer.
794
00:47:54,460 --> 00:47:57,300
Not all drug-dealers are scummers
and he likes Talitha
795
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:59,940
because "she's not a bull-shitter".
796
00:48:00,940 --> 00:48:03,180
And "funny".
797
00:48:03,180 --> 00:48:07,060
Funny. She can be quite funny,
actually.
798
00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:08,140
HE SIGHS
799
00:48:08,140 --> 00:48:13,540
And it made me realise there's a
Talitha the jury might respond to.
800
00:48:13,540 --> 00:48:14,940
Risky.
801
00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:18,060
We're past the point of non-risky
options a long time ago.
802
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:21,380
So she gets up on stage.
803
00:48:21,380 --> 00:48:23,500
What's her opening gag?
804
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:24,940
The truth.
805
00:48:24,940 --> 00:48:26,740
About?
806
00:48:26,740 --> 00:48:28,140
Everything.
807
00:48:29,940 --> 00:48:31,940
Well, that is risky.
808
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:38,660
For all concerned.
809
00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:43,660
So...
810
00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:50,260
..tread very carefully
and always consider the
811
00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:52,300
wider picture.
812
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:56,260
My family reputation,
it's very important.
813
00:48:57,540 --> 00:49:00,940
Not to mention your business image.
814
00:49:00,940 --> 00:49:02,500
Not to mention that.
815
00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:10,660
Can I tell you what won't be funny,
though, Cleo?
816
00:49:10,660 --> 00:49:12,020
Go on.
817
00:49:12,020 --> 00:49:14,300
If you make me unhappy,
818
00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:17,980
your exile after the Hargreaves case
819
00:49:17,980 --> 00:49:21,860
will feel like a holiday
in the Maldives.
820
00:49:21,860 --> 00:49:25,700
There are definitely no
third chances.
821
00:49:27,020 --> 00:49:29,140
And I'll bear that in mind.
822
00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:42,620
ON TAPE: What make of scarf is it?
823
00:49:42,620 --> 00:49:44,780
I don't know,
I got it a charity shop.
824
00:49:44,780 --> 00:49:46,780
Can't find in your flat.
825
00:49:46,780 --> 00:49:47,980
Maybe I lost it.
826
00:49:47,980 --> 00:49:50,860
Where? If I knew that,
it wouldn't be lost.
827
00:49:58,660 --> 00:50:04,460
SHE SINGS
828
00:50:27,860 --> 00:50:31,180
REPORTER: Today, the focus of
the trial shifts towards allegations
829
00:50:31,180 --> 00:50:33,700
of harassment on
the university campus
830
00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:35,700
and the role of Dr Stephen Vendler,
831
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:38,260
who was responsible for hearing
an earlier case
832
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:40,140
against Dylan Harwood.
833
00:50:40,140 --> 00:50:43,340
The complication being, of course,
that no-one can question
834
00:50:43,340 --> 00:50:47,500
Stephen Vendler due to
the fact that he took his own life.
835
00:50:57,420 --> 00:51:02,220
Mrs Vendler, you saw your husband
before he left
836
00:51:02,220 --> 00:51:04,580
for Andrea Ellis' home?
837
00:51:04,580 --> 00:51:05,700
Yes.
838
00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:07,940
And did you see
him again after that?
839
00:51:07,940 --> 00:51:09,300
No.
840
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:12,500
How would you
describe his condition?
841
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:13,780
Very bad.
842
00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:17,340
He was overcome with worry
about our family in the wake
843
00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:19,140
of the press reports.
844
00:51:19,140 --> 00:51:22,180
And he believed he had
caused the death of Hannah Ellis.
845
00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:23,340
Why?
846
00:51:23,340 --> 00:51:26,020
Because he had told the student
he was sleeping with that
847
00:51:26,020 --> 00:51:28,260
Hannah Ellis had
complained about her friend.
848
00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:30,500
The student being? Talitha Campbell.
849
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:31,980
And her friend being?
850
00:51:31,980 --> 00:51:34,660
The other person in the dock with
her, I believe.
851
00:51:34,660 --> 00:51:37,660
Anyway, apparently
she was angry. Why?
852
00:51:37,660 --> 00:51:40,860
I don't know.
You would have to ask her that.
853
00:51:40,860 --> 00:51:44,140
And you did not
see him again after that?
854
00:51:44,140 --> 00:51:45,740
No.
855
00:51:45,740 --> 00:51:48,700
He texted
shortly before he died.
856
00:51:52,220 --> 00:51:54,340
Had he ever referred to
Miss Campbell
857
00:51:54,340 --> 00:51:57,020
before the newspapers
got hold of their affair?
858
00:51:57,020 --> 00:51:59,460
No, not really.
859
00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:02,340
He talked about Hannah, though.
860
00:52:02,340 --> 00:52:06,340
He liked her and was extremely
impressed by her.
861
00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:08,780
Exacerbating his remorse?
862
00:52:08,780 --> 00:52:10,540
I don't know.
863
00:52:10,540 --> 00:52:12,540
But that seems a fair assumption.
864
00:52:14,540 --> 00:52:15,980
OK.
865
00:52:15,980 --> 00:52:17,780
Thank you, Mrs Vendler.
866
00:52:19,780 --> 00:52:22,140
He did tell me something
about Talitha, though,
867
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:23,460
after the news broke.
868
00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:24,900
Ah, My Lady...
869
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:30,020
May I remind you that you may give
evidence as to what your late
870
00:52:30,020 --> 00:52:32,660
husband told you Talitha had said,
but not...
871
00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:35,220
He said she had no soul
872
00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:37,460
and was preternaturally cruel.
873
00:52:38,460 --> 00:52:41,780
He also told me Talitha had
discussed her fantasies with him,
874
00:52:41,780 --> 00:52:44,300
which involved killing another
girl during sex.
875
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:46,380
My Lady! That is enough.
876
00:52:46,380 --> 00:52:49,540
Are you sure about this?
Mr Reynolds!
877
00:52:49,540 --> 00:52:50,900
Quite sure.
878
00:52:58,020 --> 00:52:59,580
No further questions.
879
00:53:09,860 --> 00:53:14,980
Naturally, Mrs Vendler, you
feel anger at Talitha Campbell.
880
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:18,540
I'm not sure it's natural
and it's certainly not correct.
881
00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:22,860
You don't feel anger at the person
who destroyed your marriage?
882
00:53:22,860 --> 00:53:24,980
She had no obligations to me.
883
00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:31,300
And so we are just supposed
to take your word for the fact
884
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:35,580
that your husband told
you that his lover admitted
885
00:53:35,580 --> 00:53:41,180
to fantasising about exactly
the crime of which she is accused?
886
00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:44,860
Yes, I am asking you to take
my word for it.
887
00:53:47,940 --> 00:53:51,220
You're a part-time poet,
I believe.
888
00:53:51,220 --> 00:53:55,660
Someone used
to imaginative flights.
889
00:53:55,660 --> 00:53:56,820
Yes.
890
00:53:56,820 --> 00:53:59,300
And also quite capable
of remembering something
891
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:01,180
my husband said.
892
00:54:01,180 --> 00:54:03,940
It's part of your job to embellish
things, isn't it?
893
00:54:03,940 --> 00:54:06,300
It's part of your job, as well.
894
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:10,020
But I imagine you can still sustain
a reasonably honest conversation
895
00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:11,700
at the dinner table.
896
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:16,740
What I'm getting at is... I'm well
aware of what you're getting at.
897
00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:19,740
It's not your everyday conversation,
is it?
898
00:54:19,740 --> 00:54:21,340
"Soulless"?
899
00:54:21,340 --> 00:54:24,100
"Preternaturally cruel"?
900
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:27,900
Don't these words
sound a little invented?
901
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:31,220
A little poetic license?
902
00:54:33,860 --> 00:54:35,220
Mrs Vendler?
903
00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:37,020
It wasn't a conversation.
904
00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:39,260
Smoke signals? Sign language?
905
00:54:39,260 --> 00:54:40,300
Miss Hemmings.
906
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:42,300
I'm sorry, My Lady, but...
907
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:43,660
It was a letter.
908
00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:49,300
Um... There is no reference
to a letter...
909
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:52,260
From the hotel after he
fled Andrea Ellis' house.
910
00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:55,820
It arrived after his death.
911
00:54:57,620 --> 00:55:02,460
I haven't shared it with anyone
because it is deeply private.
912
00:55:02,460 --> 00:55:07,100
And contains very
intimate details of our marriage.
913
00:55:08,140 --> 00:55:13,060
But it will substantiate
all the evidence I have given
914
00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:15,060
in court today
915
00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:17,740
and I can produce
it if the court so requires.
916
00:55:20,580 --> 00:55:24,220
My husband certainly believed
that both of the accused killed
917
00:55:24,220 --> 00:55:25,340
Hannah Ellis...
918
00:55:25,340 --> 00:55:26,740
SHE SINGS TO HERSELF
919
00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:29,020
..and that
he was the indirect cause.
920
00:55:32,740 --> 00:55:35,580
Thank you, Mrs Vendler.
We'll stop here.
921
00:55:37,980 --> 00:55:41,500
Start thinking about
a plea change in mitigation.
922
00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:44,700
She's done for.
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