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TALHOTBLOND - AN INTERNET TRAGEDY
Translation & adaptation: Margot
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You can say whatever you want on the internet.
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That's why I'm dead.
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Executed.
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At the age of 22.
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The news said I was seduced
virtually... deadly...
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By a girl who called herself
Highsexed.
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And it really was...
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High.
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Sexy.
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Blonde.
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And deadly to boot.
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The true story that I have to
tell you begins with a lie,
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said by one of my colleagues
work colleagues,
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Thomas Montgomery.
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I met Montgomery when
I started working at the DynaBrade factory.
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It's near Buffalo.
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He showed me how things work,
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even invited me to meet his family.
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This is me.
Brian Barrett.
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I was working and going to classes part-time
to become a teacher.
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This is my first truck, hand
second-hand, but I paid cash for it.
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Work at DynaBrade was boring.
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We all had our dreams.
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We produce instruments.
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We take hand-held power tools
bumpers, car stuff.
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I wanted to change my career,
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but with two little girls, it was...
for me, a new beginning...
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It would have cut a lot of my salary,
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so I stayed there.
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Keep an eye out for snipers!
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I always wanted to be a sniper.
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When I was a kid, I used to watch
John Wayne movies.
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Montgomery liked to remember
of his sniper days.
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I was using an M14, M16 caliber rifle
15 mm. A sniper rifle.
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He's never seen a live fight.
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He didn't get any medals from the army,
but an addiction to alcohol.
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But soon after that, it became
a responsible family man,
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with a house in upstate New York,
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a wife and two beautiful daughters.
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Montgomery was a model citizen.
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He used to speak at Sunday school,
there's no traffic ticket on his name.
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I considered him one of the kindest
neighbors we had.
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We were quite shocked when we found out
what had happened.
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He was not disliked by his co-workers,
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people just thought he was a bit strange.
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But other than that, he was a good father,
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was vice president of the swim club
where her daughter swam
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and was always by the side of
his children,
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seemed like a decent husband.
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Until it all came out.
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But what I didn't know about Montgomery
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is that his 17-year marriage
was experiencing difficulties
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and that he had become impotent.
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There is desire,
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but sometimes I couldn't do anything,
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there was too much pressure on me...
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... like, if I did that
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we could still be together, but...
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sex is just one part of a relationship,
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communication is the other side.
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I talked to some priests at the church
that I attended,
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told me I should communicate with her,
and this and that,
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there were times when I was trying, but...
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...there's never her version,
only mine.
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I wasn't disappointed in her,
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I was more disappointed with my life,
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we had some wonderful kids,
I had a wonderful wife,
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but I felt guilty because
I wasn't satisfied,
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I wanted something else.
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And that something else consisted in the beginning
an internet game, then a girl.
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A teenage girl.
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Most of the time we play
Texas Hold'em and Poker
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and a few gym games,
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and... relaxing.
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I could talk to people that
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I knew I wouldn't know them or
ever see them,
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I could tell them things, and vice versa,
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if I was in trouble, for one thing...
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not giving them personal information
about the kids or Cindy, but...
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you know, I'd talk to anybody.
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I was playing blackjack in a card room,
I remember he called himself Talhotblond.
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He said "hello", I said
and we started talking,
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and said, "you're in the wrong place."
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I asked her "what are you talking about?",
and she said, "it's a children's room."
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and I panicked,
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because I had heard all that stuff
about the internet,
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I didn't want to get involved in that,
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So I told him I was 18.
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The first time we spoke he sent me
some pictures of her in her bathing suit
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the very first day he sent them to me,
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and how can I put this...
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they were... they weren't pornographic,
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but they were defiant,
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and told me to tell him what I looked like,
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I told him I was 6'2"...
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I told him I was muscular,
he asked me if I was windy,
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I answered in the affirmative, and he replied,
"I like a man who's got a lot of wind."
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Montgomery was trapped in the nets,
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knew that Jessi, that was her real name.
of Talhotblond,
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wouldn't be texting him if he was
found out he was a middle-aged parent.
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So on the Internet Montgomery claimed
that he was a brave young sniper
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at a training camp.
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He found a new name, "Tommy".
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I knew I'd never meet her
this girl,
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and I could...
you can say whatever you want on the Internet.
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Montgomery told Jessi
sad stories,
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only lies.
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For example, that he had never loved
since his mother died
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when he was young and he thought
often thought about suicide.
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I was telling him that Tommy doesn't have feelings
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because he was suffering, and he was a loner
and had suffered for love several times.
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So he started talking,
he opened his soul.
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We talked about it, about sports,
she was on the softball team.
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Then he asked me,
"Why do you want to be a sniper?"
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So I said, "I want to try
to be the best...
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I want to do the hardest things".
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Montgomery was a liar
liar.
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When Jessi wanted to see how
Tommy looked like
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sent her his picture from when he was
30 years old.
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She wanted to talk to him on the phone,
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called her a couple of times
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late at night when Tommy was, hypothetically,
off the clock.
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Jessi actually thought she was 18.
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Montgomery couldn't believe
how lucky he was.
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She's... a depressive,
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a dynamic, hungry person,
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in a dead-end marriage and life.
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That would be enough for many people,
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but not for him,
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and definitely not for MarineSniper,
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who had the opportunity to do a little more...
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something better, and at least something different.
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He knew they would never meet,
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that they will never be seen in reality,
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how could that be satisfactory?
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Well...
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... which is satisfying in any relationship...
is not reality,
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but the fantasy of what is possible.
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Jessi's fantasies
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were typical of a dreamy teenager.
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He lived in a small town,
in the hills of West Virginia.
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This is the house where he lives with
a traditional family,
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a hard-working father,
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a stay-at-home mother and a brother.
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Jessi was about to graduate,
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to go to the prom,
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was undecided about her future.
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Tommy could have been her ticket out
out of town.
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He was telling her
"Her sweet, sexy sniper."
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He was sending her videotapes,
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in which he confessed to her his most secret
secrets of hers.
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Jessi had lost her virtual virginity
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with the boy she thought was Tommy.
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He sent her other articles,
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like...
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a necklace with his and her name on it,
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that said
"Jessi and Tom forever"
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with a heart broken in half.
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He sent her some panties
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and while he was talking to her,
she was describing what she was doing with her panties,
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and that sort of thing.
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Talhotblond: the first time we meet
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talhotblond: I run and I
put my feet around you
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marinesniper: wearing red underwear
silk
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talhotblond: I'm going to lift my skirt,
I don't care who sees
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Since Tommy couldn't meet her
Jessi in person,
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Montgomery fabricated elaborate stories.
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Tommy's done training,
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then he was sent to Iraq.
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It was now in enemy territory,
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protecting Jessi and America.
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I've always wanted to be
combat sniper,
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to participate in the war,
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maybe I'm crazy, or an idiot, or something,
but...
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I've always wanted to test my
my skills with someone else,
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and... doing this with Jessi
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I allowed myself to live the life that
I knew I would never have.
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He imagined he was someone else entirely,
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and suddenly, there was a sniper
18 years old
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with all kinds of empathy issues,
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he could do whatever he wanted to do,
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to be whoever he wanted to be,
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was his own father,
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at some point when he was on
battlefield.
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Right.
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Montgomery added another lie
to the existing ones,
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claiming to be Tommy's father.
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There were two reasons for this story:
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a way to talk to Jessi,
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while Tommy was, hypothetically,
on dangerous reconnaissance missions,
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and to try to end the relationship,
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knowing it couldn't last.
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Like I said, he was talking mostly
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with this so-called Father
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most of the time,
because Tommy was on the battlefield.
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And he said,
"I like your son very much."
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one-high.
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Then I realised there would be problems.
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So I tried to put an end to it
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saying "I don't want you to talk to him anymore,
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I won't let him text you again."
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and I thought it would end,
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but it didn't,
one lie led to another,
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and like I said, it was like an addiction.
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I saw how blinded by love he was
Thomas Montgomery.
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It's the kind of thing you see
more in teenagers,
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who fall head over heels in love,
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only he was 47 years old,
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so we can't talk about mad passion,
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he was obsessed, he was consumed
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of this... fantasy.
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It was like a drug as it was
whiskey was to me,
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something I should have,
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Once I had it, I couldn't let it go.
out of my hand,
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I wasn't even trying.
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It was... I was getting irritated,
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I used to snap at Cindy for everything,
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that kind of thing,
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and... I was still working
with my girls,
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but as soon as I got back home
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I was opening the computer again.
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Sometimes he'd stay on the Internet until
5 or 6 in the morning,
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and was supposed to be at work at
7 or 7.30.
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I don't think it would be fair
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let's say this man was addicted
to the Internet,
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I think he was addicted to emotion and
complexity.
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The Internet was special to him,
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because it offered him something,
like nothing else could.
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His card games were not enough,
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his life was not enough.
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His addiction had as its objects
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excitement, intrigue and complexity,
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he would look for them wherever he could find them.
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The relationship had been going on for more than 6 months.
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Here is one of the diary entries
Jessi's diary,
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taken from police records.
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Tommy had asked her to marry him
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on his return from Iraq.
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You can't help but wonder,
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how could Montgomery do something like this
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of such a gullible face.
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She even thought she had a fiancé.
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At first I thought about it,
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but then I thought to myself,
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you know, he's not gonna get hurt,
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she's a young girl, she'll find
someone else.
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I felt like a kid again.
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Like when...
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I thought I was happier.
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Love,
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even pathological love,
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is incredibly powerful.
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We're talking about addicts
alcohol addicts,
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sex addicts,
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people dependent on the internet.
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But the biggest addiction
of people
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is love.
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We are hopelessly and utterly
addicted to love,
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is the biggest addiction of all,
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that nothing else can replace,
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and she fed his addiction,
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being the only one that feeds them
this addiction.
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As the relationship continued,
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Montgomery seemed to cross the border
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between fantasy and reality.
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Then he wrote himself this
bizarre note.
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He was hiding it at work.
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Write: On January 2, 2006,
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46-year-old Tom Montgomery,
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ceased to exist and was replaced
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by an 18-year-old sniper.
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Has money in the bank,
$2.5 million,
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he's handsome as a redheaded Harrison Ford."
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He was talking about what size they would be
his private parts
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and how he will no longer be impotent.
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Then Montgomery wondered,
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when will the transformation take place?
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To prepare.
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The most extraordinary singular fact
in this case
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is the note in his locker.
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Communicating with oneself
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reflect his conviction
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into something we all know is not possible
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for a 45-46 year old former alcoholic,
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that ended his life as a man,
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will be young again
and start his life over
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in another country with another person,
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which he thought meant
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that he took that last step
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from some random fantasy on the internet
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went through a mirror
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and entered the world of the unreal.
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And he took it seriously.
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I think Thomas Montgomery
was so obsessed and consumed,
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that meant everything to him,
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has become...
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the internet has become his world.
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But that world was about to
to fall apart.
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Montgomery's wife, Cindy
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I've suspected something for a while.
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My wife was watching TV,
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talking to each other
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and he'd come to see what game we were playing.
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I could always just push a button
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to erase everything Jessi wrote to me.
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He asked me, "Who are you talking to?"
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I would reply, "I'm talking to some friends."
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Towards the end I was thinking how to end it,
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because the feeling of guilt
consumes me...
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that summer we had...
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I thought it was a heart attack,
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was an anxiety attack,
with all that guilt.
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The doctor told me I had to get out
of stress,
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so I thought,
"I'll take it easy on the computer."
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But no,
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was even worse,
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because I couldn't talk to her anymore.
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Eventually, fate intervened,
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exposing Montgomery's hoax.
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His wife, Cindy, found a package
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that Jessi had sent Tommy.
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The red panties he found inside
explained everything.
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Game over.
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When he found the package, he went to it
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and said, "Now I have confirmation
that I was looking for,
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what you're doing, you don't realize,
this girl is 18 years old,
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you have a family, a wife, two kids, a dog,
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and, you know...
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what about...
what about this?
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She was furious, told me
I was cheating on an 18-year-old girl,
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that I shouldn't be doing this,
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that she and I should work it out
our problems,
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not talk to someone else.
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He got angry, he told me,
"I'm right here."
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and I said, "Cindy, it's easy for me
to talk
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with someone who's not there,
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can't see emotions...
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Look how angry you are right now."
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And I can't blame her because
she was angry.
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Cindy Montgomery...
was devastated.
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She wanted a divorce,
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but first he wrote this letter:
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"Jessi, inside you'll find a picture
of my family,
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let me introduce you to
these people,
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the man in the middle is Tom
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my husband...
there is no Tommy.
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Take advantage of yourself,
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you have to be more careful
about your safety.
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You're gonna get hurt by the man
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who has mastered the art of manipulation
and lies.
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Don't trust the written word
on a computer."
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How Jessi reacted
when she received this letter?
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Complete shock.
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I remember her telling me how disgusted she was
she was
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by sending him messages of a sexual nature
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a 47-year-old father.
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She was angry and hurt.
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We chatted on a private chat
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and asked me why I did it,
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why I made her suffer,
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I said, "I wish I could explain to you
363
00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:34,948
but I don't know".
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00:18:35,512 --> 00:18:37,649
I told him I had no intention of doing it,
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00:18:37,864 --> 00:18:39,297
but...
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it was... it was too late for that.
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In a way, I was glad it happened
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because it's taken an enormous burden
off my shoulders.
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When he says he felt relieved,
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what would be more convenient for him
to say?
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What he should say about himself...
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is that...
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Thomas Montgomery felt relieved.
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Identity
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"marinesniper" was not relieved
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While he's glad he got caught,
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00:19:15,374 --> 00:19:18,639
"marinesniper" wants to come back
to life.
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00:19:18,955 --> 00:19:21,389
"Marinesniper" and...
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someone inside Montgomery
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that never surfaced,
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00:19:26,258 --> 00:19:28,091
but he's desperate to do it.
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This is the part where Jessi and I
are bonding.
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Here's how it happened.
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We play internet games with
Jessi and Montgomery.
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He remembered my name from the screen.
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00:19:47,259 --> 00:19:48,363
"beefcake",
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and contacted me to find out more
about Montgomery.
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00:19:51,346 --> 00:19:52,839
He knew we were working together.
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00:19:53,772 --> 00:19:56,296
I couldn't believe all the lies
he told her,
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00:19:56,569 --> 00:19:58,225
I felt so sorry for her.
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00:19:58,374 --> 00:19:59,540
I consoled her,
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00:20:00,335 --> 00:20:02,264
we formed an internet friendship.
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00:20:02,980 --> 00:20:05,950
He started sending me pictures that
he'd sent to Montgomery and...
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00:20:07,295 --> 00:20:08,626
...well...
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I think you can figure out where
this is heading.
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Beefcake: I'm looking at your pictures
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00:20:14,150 --> 00:20:17,120
talhotblond: what were you thinking
398
00:20:17,150 --> 00:20:19,120
beefcake: how I wish
to hold you in my arms
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00:20:19,150 --> 00:20:23,120
beefcake: and kiss you
400
00:20:23,150 --> 00:20:26,120
talhotblond: I love you Brian
401
00:20:26,150 --> 00:20:31,120
beefcake: I love you Jessi
402
00:20:32,294 --> 00:20:34,901
Jessi was exactly my type.
403
00:20:35,185 --> 00:20:36,934
We approached quickly.
404
00:20:37,286 --> 00:20:38,970
I could understand why they would invent
Montgomery
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00:20:38,971 --> 00:20:41,253
anything to talk to
such a girl.
406
00:20:41,491 --> 00:20:43,500
She knew how to flirt like no other.
407
00:20:43,550 --> 00:20:45,100
Talhotblond: I take off my underwear
408
00:20:45,101 --> 00:20:47,100
talhotblond: I'm laying on my back in the lap
of my lover
409
00:20:47,101 --> 00:20:49,000
talhotblond: I'm coming up with something long and hard
410
00:20:49,099 --> 00:20:50,850
beefcake: you're getting close, baby
411
00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:55,800
talhotblond: yes, you
412
00:21:02,473 --> 00:21:04,481
What I didn't know was that Jessi was still angry
413
00:21:04,582 --> 00:21:06,959
Montgomery for lying to her
414
00:21:07,337 --> 00:21:09,673
and that he was using our relationship
to get back at him.
415
00:21:10,670 --> 00:21:12,530
I had no idea they were still talking.
416
00:21:13,566 --> 00:21:15,616
He came into the chat and said,
"I like Brian because
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00:21:15,617 --> 00:21:19,146
he doesn't lie to me, he's close to my age",
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00:21:19,147 --> 00:21:22,120
and said, "I really love him."
and this and that.
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00:21:22,181 --> 00:21:24,406
He told me they both have cameras,
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00:21:24,453 --> 00:21:26,909
and that they send pictures,
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00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:28,937
that they undress for each other,
422
00:21:29,638 --> 00:21:32,913
and he also told me that he does this
to get back at me,
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00:21:33,088 --> 00:21:34,587
to make me angry.
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00:21:37,409 --> 00:21:38,821
I told him that for the first two weeks
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00:21:38,822 --> 00:21:41,470
that we didn't talk,
I thought I was over it,
426
00:21:41,677 --> 00:21:43,747
but when he came back and we started
talking again,
427
00:21:43,863 --> 00:21:47,092
I got back those feelings
and it felt good.
428
00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:55,000
Marinesniper: I'm sorry for all
the suffering caused by my lies
429
00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:58,900
talhotblond: will you do me a favor
430
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,000
marinesniper: what exactly
431
00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:05,000
talhotblond: don't let Tommy die
432
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,000
marinesniper: won't die as long as
you carry it in your heart
433
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,100
talhotblond: let it live in you
434
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,100
marinesniper: you're crying, aren't you
435
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:23,000
talhotblond: I didn't stop
436
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:25,000
talhotblond: you sound like my Tommy
437
00:22:26,090 --> 00:22:29,000
marinesniper: but I can't be your Tommy
438
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:34,090
marinesniper: I wish you every happiness
in the world
439
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,100
marinesniper: I love you Jessica
440
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,100
marinesniper: and I will always love you
441
00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:45,000
talhotblond: well I'm ready
442
00:22:46,090 --> 00:22:48,800
marinesniper: okay, sweetie
443
00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:51,000
talhotblond: goodbye Tom
444
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:55,100
marinesniper: goodbye Jessica
445
00:23:04,768 --> 00:23:06,342
It could have been the perfect ending
446
00:23:06,343 --> 00:23:08,027
for Tommy's fairy tale.
447
00:23:08,403 --> 00:23:09,892
But it wasn't.
448
00:23:09,970 --> 00:23:12,479
Jessi was still angry about
Montgomery's lies
449
00:23:12,866 --> 00:23:14,745
and he used me to
to get even more revenge.
450
00:23:14,816 --> 00:23:16,962
I'm not proud of what I've done
further.
451
00:23:17,497 --> 00:23:19,695
But Jessi had a power over me.
452
00:23:20,056 --> 00:23:22,893
She convinced me to help her make a mockery
Montgomery on the Internet.
453
00:23:23,972 --> 00:23:25,037
I walked into a gambling parlor
454
00:23:25,038 --> 00:23:27,585
and I called Montgomery the predator
and a loser.
455
00:23:28,045 --> 00:23:29,689
He was suspended from the games.
456
00:23:30,765 --> 00:23:32,911
Then I decided to tell them
to our colleagues at the factory
457
00:23:32,928 --> 00:23:34,651
how he lied to Jessi.
458
00:23:34,850 --> 00:23:37,090
Beefcake: what to tell them
459
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:40,000
talhotblond: it's up to you, darling
460
00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:43,000
beefcake: I got to get him out of my head
461
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,900
talhotblond: you're bad
462
00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:48,800
beefcake: still laughing
463
00:23:54,012 --> 00:23:56,850
We must not forget that here
something happened,
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00:23:56,967 --> 00:23:58,376
and what happened here
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00:23:58,915 --> 00:24:01,654
had no control.
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00:24:02,223 --> 00:24:03,910
The space in his life
467
00:24:05,049 --> 00:24:06,701
merged with the internet,
468
00:24:06,807 --> 00:24:09,167
because those co-workers of his
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00:24:09,565 --> 00:24:10,704
discovered his participation,
470
00:24:11,018 --> 00:24:13,414
and they discovered it in an embarrassing way.
471
00:24:14,044 --> 00:24:16,019
He was stripped of his privacy
472
00:24:16,232 --> 00:24:19,391
and its capacity for self-deception.
473
00:24:19,687 --> 00:24:20,947
Because once that happened,
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00:24:21,372 --> 00:24:24,501
it was difficult for him to find out
in that fantasy.
475
00:24:24,927 --> 00:24:27,582
Montgomery stopped talking to me,
476
00:24:28,029 --> 00:24:31,174
he told us both to leave him alone.
477
00:24:31,910 --> 00:24:34,500
Frankly, I was sick of
Jessi's games.
478
00:24:35,161 --> 00:24:36,930
He was going crazy.
479
00:24:37,399 --> 00:24:40,187
But she invited me to meet her in person.
480
00:24:41,265 --> 00:24:42,773
I should never have let
let it slip away at work,
481
00:24:42,774 --> 00:24:44,673
that I want to go to West Virginia
482
00:24:44,771 --> 00:24:46,407
to visit the "virgin".
483
00:24:47,194 --> 00:24:48,847
I received a warning message.
484
00:24:49,609 --> 00:24:51,763
It seemed Montgomery was still feeling
a thing for Jessi
485
00:24:52,341 --> 00:24:53,536
and for her virginity.
486
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,000
Marinesniper: so you're gonna meet her
487
00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:59,900
beefcake: I don't really feel like
to deal with her nerves
488
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:06,800
beefcake: i don't know what i want or what
I'm going to do with it
489
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:14,100
marinesniper: i can't believe
you prefer her to our friendship
490
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,700
marinesniper: go and get her caimac,
good luck.
491
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,000
Beefcake: why does it bother you so much,
you're so much older than her
492
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:33,000
marinesniper: tell that little whore
to stay out of my life
493
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,800
marinesniper: you wanted it, you got it,
just tell him to leave me alone
494
00:25:42,228 --> 00:25:44,735
Oh, how intense,
495
00:25:45,250 --> 00:25:48,093
and as it turned out, superfluous.
496
00:25:48,577 --> 00:25:50,337
I didn't get to meet Jessi,
497
00:25:51,005 --> 00:25:52,338
got mad at me
498
00:25:52,652 --> 00:25:54,957
pretending all I want is sex.
499
00:25:55,031 --> 00:25:56,592
Our relationship
500
00:25:56,593 --> 00:25:57,990
was over.
501
00:25:58,069 --> 00:26:00,473
Maybe that's why he came back
to Montgomery,
502
00:26:00,622 --> 00:26:02,161
was addicted to attention,
503
00:26:02,331 --> 00:26:04,168
and now, quite versed.
504
00:26:04,552 --> 00:26:05,690
Even though Montgomery was still angry
505
00:26:05,691 --> 00:26:08,109
Jessi for humiliating him,
506
00:26:08,624 --> 00:26:10,236
look how she lured him back,
507
00:26:10,439 --> 00:26:12,717
banking on Tommy's fantasy.
508
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,100
Marinesniper: you mean nothing to me
509
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,100
talhotblond: why did you talk to me
these days if I don't mean anything
510
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:28,100
marinesniper: I don't know sorry but I don't know
511
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,050
marinesniper: you better not play
with me Jessi
512
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,200
marinesniper: I'm holding on to you a little longer
but I want you to be devastated
513
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:46,900
marinesniper: why Jessi
why are you playing with me like this
514
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,900
talhotblond: can we start again
as friends
515
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,600
marinesniper: why do you want us to take it
all over again as friends
516
00:26:56,900 --> 00:27:01,900
talhotblond: because Tom I meant too
so much to each other to be like this now
517
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,100
talhotblond: only you are my link
to Tommy and I will love him to death
518
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,900
marinesniper: I still carry Tommy in my heart
519
00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:23,608
Fantasies don't die so easily.
520
00:27:24,254 --> 00:27:26,258
He's still a Marine,
521
00:27:26,673 --> 00:27:29,333
still believes, I dare say,
522
00:27:29,651 --> 00:27:32,159
that he would get back what he had.
523
00:27:32,397 --> 00:27:34,159
It's still his fantasy
524
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,573
that Jessi's going to face a few worlds,
that she would repent,
525
00:27:37,924 --> 00:27:41,625
and that they will be together again.
526
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,090
Marinesniper: Can I tell you something
to keep between us
527
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:47,500
talhotblond: yes
528
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,000
marinesniper: never stopped
to care about you
529
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,000
talhotblond: after all I've done
530
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,090
marinesniper: yes
531
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,090
marinesniper: I want us to be friends and
have fun like we used to
532
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:02,900
talhotblond: I think it's a great idea Tom
533
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:07,100
marinesniper: let's start again
as friends right now
534
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,090
marinesniper: hi this is Tom
535
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:13,400
talhotblond: hi I'm Jessi
536
00:28:14,090 --> 00:28:17,100
marinesniper: i am 47 years old and i am
former sniper
537
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,000
talhotblond: I'm 18 years old and I just
graduated
538
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:24,950
marinesniper: congratulations Jessi
539
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,090
talhotblond: good night my friend
540
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,300
marinesniper: good night, sweetie
541
00:28:36,221 --> 00:28:39,225
Now that Montgomery and Jessi
were "friends" again,
542
00:28:39,482 --> 00:28:41,175
he began to open up to her.
543
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,090
Marinesniper: lost a good friend Jessi
544
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:47,190
marinesniper: made a mortal enemy
545
00:28:47,193 --> 00:28:50,399
I had no idea he hated me so much.
546
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,000
Marinesniper: you did the thing
I was most afraid of
547
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,000
talhotblond: what
548
00:28:56,050 --> 00:28:59,000
marinesniper: you have hardened my heart
549
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,700
marinesniper: I hate him passionately and
I'd kill him for a dime
550
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,900
talhotblond: that's a bit drastic, no
551
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:14,900
marinesniper: revenge is a bitch Jessi
552
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,600
Marinesniper: I am the ultimate weapon
I'm a sniper
553
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,900
talhotblond: what are you going to do?
554
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,600
Marinesniper: let's say that the life of the sweetheart
your shitty little life is hanging by a thread
555
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:34,099
talhotblond: you're serious
556
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,700
marinesniper: yes
557
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,099
talhotblond: when
558
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:44,700
marinesniper: the day after you two
idiots told me that you were making fun of me
559
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,090
talhotblond: oh
560
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,600
marinesniper: if i had just taken a little shot
a little harder he would have died
561
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,800
Marinesniper: Brian will pay in blood
562
00:30:04,877 --> 00:30:08,022
You'd think Jessi would be terrified of
this outburst,
563
00:30:08,334 --> 00:30:10,535
but she seemed overcome with rage.
564
00:30:11,178 --> 00:30:12,415
Jessi promised Montgomery
565
00:30:12,416 --> 00:30:14,316
that he would never text me again,
566
00:30:14,405 --> 00:30:16,864
and to seal the deal,
she took her friendship with
567
00:30:16,914 --> 00:30:19,635
the real 47-year-old Thomas Montgomery
568
00:30:19,636 --> 00:30:22,100
into a more obscure and distorted area.
569
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:25,000
Talhotblond: I long for Tommy
570
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:28,900
marinesniper: you killed him inside
my Jessi
571
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,000
talhotblond: very sorry Tom
572
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:37,700
marinesniper: Jessi I would sell my soul
to be that Tommy
573
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:45,700
marinesniper: I want you so much Jessi,
I want to hold you and kiss you
574
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:51,000
talhotblond: make love to me Tommy
575
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:56,700
marinesniper: he pulls down her panties and
gently rubs his penis against her clit
576
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,000
talthoblond: mmmmmm
577
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:05,500
marinesniper: rubs gently and
smiles at his lady
578
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,099
talhotblond: mmmmm
579
00:31:07,101 --> 00:31:11,090
talhotblond: introduce-o sweetie
580
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,600
marinesniper: not yet baby
I want you to beg for it like a little girl
581
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,900
talhotblond: please now
582
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:27,090
marinesniper: okay baby
he's gently poking his lady
583
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,000
talhotblond: it's so good baby
584
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,900
marinesniper: it moves more and more
faster and faster and says "any minute now, baby"
585
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,090
talhotblond: baby I'm gonna finish
586
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,000
talhotblond: faster baby
587
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,000
talhotblonh: ohhhhhh
588
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,000
talhotblond: Tommmyyyyyy
589
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:50,090
talhotblond: get it over with
590
00:31:51,099 --> 00:31:55,700
marinesniper: termin
591
00:32:00,908 --> 00:32:03,318
God, Jessi loved to play.
592
00:32:03,869 --> 00:32:06,698
Just when he'd managed to get Montgomery
where he wanted to go,
593
00:32:06,867 --> 00:32:09,251
started flirting with other men
on the internet.
594
00:32:09,596 --> 00:32:11,517
Montgomery was devastated.
595
00:32:11,716 --> 00:32:13,600
He begged her to stop playing with him.
596
00:32:13,603 --> 00:32:16,090
Marinesniper: You enjoy
to make me suffer
597
00:32:17,090 --> 00:32:22,600
marinesniper: why Jessi, why don't you give up
if you don't want me in your life
598
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,101
talhotblond: yes I want you in my life Tom
599
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,700
marinesniper: my suffering matters so much
so much to you that you can't give up
600
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,000
talhotblond: Tom I don't want you to suffer
601
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:43,700
marinesniper: you get horny when you step on me
on your feelings
602
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:49,131
Then I made a stupid mistake,
603
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:50,839
threatening her.
604
00:32:50,885 --> 00:32:52,222
I said, "If you don't leave me alone,
605
00:32:52,675 --> 00:32:54,162
I will physically hurt you."
606
00:32:55,353 --> 00:32:57,516
This was the anger I felt
again,
607
00:32:57,517 --> 00:33:00,064
I thought I had it under control,
but I wasn't.
608
00:33:00,447 --> 00:33:03,026
I told him if he didn't leave me alone
609
00:33:03,248 --> 00:33:05,530
I'm gonna go over there and physically hurt her,
610
00:33:05,531 --> 00:33:08,181
"or I'll get you something you care about",
611
00:33:08,365 --> 00:33:09,238
I mean her mother,
612
00:33:09,239 --> 00:33:11,439
that I'm going to go and hurt her mother.
613
00:33:11,562 --> 00:33:13,074
And for a while we didn't talk.
614
00:33:13,075 --> 00:33:16,146
Then he came back and said,
615
00:33:16,147 --> 00:33:18,476
"my mother wants to talk to you".
616
00:33:18,906 --> 00:33:20,933
I said, "okay, I'll talk to your mom."
617
00:33:21,646 --> 00:33:23,659
He told me to leave Jessi alone,
618
00:33:23,660 --> 00:33:24,584
I said, "Okay, I'll do it,
619
00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:26,873
but please, tell her to let me go, too.
in peace."
620
00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:29,857
The same thing your daughter asked for.
621
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:31,884
He said, "fine."
622
00:33:32,107 --> 00:33:34,684
So it's been a few weeks
and nothing.
623
00:33:36,072 --> 00:33:37,518
I never heard from Jessi again,
624
00:33:37,829 --> 00:33:39,714
Then Jessi comes back and I tell her,
"Wait a minute,
625
00:33:39,761 --> 00:33:42,068
Your mother told me to leave you alone,
626
00:33:42,069 --> 00:33:43,143
and you leave me alone."
627
00:33:43,144 --> 00:33:45,086
and he said, "he'll never find out."
628
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,800
Marinesniper: I'm just saying you can't get in
in and out of my life at any time, sweetheart.
629
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,800
talhotblond: I defied my mother
to be with you
630
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,400
marinesniper: Jessi I can't believe it
that we're back together like this
631
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,700
talhotblond: why not
632
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:11,680
marinesniper: how we argue
I didn't think we'd ever be together
633
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,800
marinesniper: you always liked
the attention you've received
634
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:17,500
talhotblond: yes
635
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,100
talhotblond: give me some more
636
00:34:24,494 --> 00:34:27,851
It's a bit like an arcade.
637
00:34:28,086 --> 00:34:30,586
If you go online and play a game,
638
00:34:30,985 --> 00:34:32,158
are figures,
639
00:34:32,354 --> 00:34:34,617
they have guns, they shoot each other
640
00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:36,041
and they fight,
641
00:34:36,163 --> 00:34:39,090
and someone dies, someone else doesn't.
642
00:34:39,693 --> 00:34:41,481
Why is it a game?
643
00:34:41,794 --> 00:34:45,711
Because the next time you press
that button
644
00:34:46,982 --> 00:34:49,062
everyone is alive again.
645
00:34:49,063 --> 00:34:52,075
And this is a game at a certain level,
646
00:34:52,616 --> 00:34:55,087
and rebirth
647
00:34:55,088 --> 00:34:57,811
his "marinesniper" is crucial
648
00:34:58,214 --> 00:35:00,818
for Montgomery's psyche.
649
00:35:06,037 --> 00:35:07,392
Looking back,
650
00:35:07,423 --> 00:35:10,678
you can see how the mind games of
Jessi was driving Montgomery crazy.
651
00:35:11,029 --> 00:35:13,153
They were texting each other
every week.
652
00:35:13,512 --> 00:35:15,214
Psychopathic messages of verbal abuse
653
00:35:15,215 --> 00:35:17,186
and sexual attention.
654
00:35:17,677 --> 00:35:19,731
Then... inexplicably,
655
00:35:19,795 --> 00:35:21,940
started sending me messages again,
656
00:35:21,941 --> 00:35:23,487
wanted to be friends again.
657
00:35:23,859 --> 00:35:25,328
Montgomery didn't know,
658
00:35:25,763 --> 00:35:28,934
until he saw my name on
Jessica's MySpace page,
659
00:35:29,267 --> 00:35:31,546
and then all hell broke loose.
660
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:36,546
Marinesniper: I can take you with anyone
but him
661
00:35:36,558 --> 00:35:39,547
marinesniper: are you back together?
662
00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:41,800
Marinesniper: Answer me Jessi
663
00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:47,090
talhotblond: we talked Tom
but no, we're not together
664
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:50,000
marinesniper: what do you want from me Jessi?
665
00:35:50,432 --> 00:35:53,900
Talhotblond: let's finish as friends
not as enemies
666
00:35:54,090 --> 00:35:59,100
marinesniper: I'm not a puppet
to play with
667
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,900
talhotblond: I'm asking you to give me up
668
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,600
marinesniper: now you're gonna pay my bitch
669
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,300
marinesniper: you better shake
with fear
670
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,950
marinesniper: i told you what would happen
if you get back together with Brian
671
00:36:17,350 --> 00:36:20,070
talhotblond: hi Brian.
672
00:36:20,101 --> 00:36:27,050
Talhotblond: I wanted to tell you that I pissed him off
Tom and he thinks we're together
673
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,050
beefcake: don't do anything,
I don't care what he thinks
674
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:40,000
beefcake: I haven't spoken to him in a few
months, I've been keeping away from this mess
675
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,900
talhotblond: Brian, he threatened you
676
00:36:44,850 --> 00:36:52,600
beefcake: he tried to run me over in the parking lot,
he won't look at me or talk to me.
677
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,900
talhotblond: Oh my God
678
00:36:55,101 --> 00:36:58,950
talhotblond: make sure to stay away
from your truck
679
00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:03,300
beefcake: if she touches it
I lose my temper
680
00:37:03,950 --> 00:37:08,950
beefcake: do you think I should tell him
to my boss or someone else?
681
00:37:09,350 --> 00:37:12,950
Talhotblond: Brian I'm really afraid of him
682
00:37:13,350 --> 00:37:19,950
beefcake: yeah, me too, he's crazy
683
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:28,800
marinesniper: you're just a lying whore
who wants Brian's penis inside her
684
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:31,440
marinesniper: i know you'll have a penis
Brian's cock inside you
685
00:37:31,450 --> 00:37:35,050
talhotblond: no, Tom
686
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:41,950
marinesniper: I don't want to meet you or
see you unless you're raped by niggers
687
00:37:42,350 --> 00:37:46,950
talhotblond: I ask you to love me
enough to give me up
688
00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:55,950
talhotblond: I know it hurts and I regret it
very much, I don't want to hurt you anymore
689
00:37:56,350 --> 00:37:59,950
talhotblond: I'm leaving now
690
00:38:00,350 --> 00:38:01,950
marinesniper: of course
691
00:38:02,350 --> 00:38:07,950
talhotblond: goodbye sweetheart
692
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:13,050
ONE DAY LATER - THURSDAY
693
00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:17,050
marinesniper: are you here?
694
00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:23,050
Marinesniper: hey curvo,
suck your boyfriend Brian's dick today
695
00:38:23,550 --> 00:38:26,500
(talhotblond disconnected)
696
00:38:27,650 --> 00:38:30,950
TWO DAYS LATER - FRIDAY
697
00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:34,950
marinesniper: okay, play your game
698
00:38:35,350 --> 00:38:39,650
marinesniper: are you here?
699
00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:43,500
(talhotblond disconnected)
700
00:38:44,350 --> 00:38:48,090
LATER THAT EVENING,
FRIDAY NIGHT
701
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:55,099
10:00 pm
Brian leaves work
702
00:38:58,090 --> 00:39:02,050
He gets into his parked truck
near the end of the parking lot
703
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,050
Someone approaches from behind
704
00:39:31,850 --> 00:39:40,050
Having no plans for the weekend, his corpse
Brian's body wasn't discovered for two days
705
00:39:41,502 --> 00:39:45,877
It was a beautiful, quiet day
September day
706
00:39:45,878 --> 00:39:49,295
and I approached the truck and
I saw three bullet holes.
707
00:39:49,296 --> 00:39:50,357
The window was closed,
708
00:39:50,358 --> 00:39:53,257
the driver's side window was closed,
with three bullet holes in it.
709
00:39:53,258 --> 00:39:55,002
He was sitting in the driver's seat,
710
00:39:55,326 --> 00:39:58,409
lay slumped to one side.
711
00:39:59,806 --> 00:40:02,309
He was slumped to the right,
712
00:40:04,059 --> 00:40:05,734
his arms had fallen to his right,
713
00:40:05,734 --> 00:40:07,711
you could see a hole here
714
00:40:07,703 --> 00:40:10,246
and an enormous hole in his throat.
715
00:40:10,246 --> 00:40:11,685
He was still covered in blood,
716
00:40:11,685 --> 00:40:14,093
there was blood all over the front seat
of the truck.
717
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:17,289
It was a cold-blooded murder,
methodical...
718
00:40:17,289 --> 00:40:19,908
...an execution.
719
00:40:21,229 --> 00:40:23,750
I think Thomas Montgomery
720
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:26,885
he still thought he was a rifleman...
721
00:40:27,703 --> 00:40:28,892
a sniper.
722
00:40:28,892 --> 00:40:31,256
I think he planned all this,
723
00:40:32,929 --> 00:40:35,016
when we found Brian's car
724
00:40:36,201 --> 00:40:39,360
the driver's side tire had a flat,
725
00:40:39,858 --> 00:40:44,719
which made Brian
easy prey.
726
00:40:46,066 --> 00:40:47,874
They're the kind of things
727
00:40:48,917 --> 00:40:52,124
that they would have set up
Thomas Montgomery,
728
00:40:53,075 --> 00:40:55,917
told people he was a sniper,
729
00:40:56,224 --> 00:40:58,707
that if he kills someone,
he'll do it with this gun,
730
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:03,111
he's gonna shoot him, and that's exactly what happened.
731
00:41:03,642 --> 00:41:07,935
I think Brian was such a young boy,
732
00:41:07,936 --> 00:41:11,382
a happy kid, living in the moment
733
00:41:11,383 --> 00:41:13,879
and I don't think...
734
00:41:14,142 --> 00:41:17,905
although I think he was probably thinking
that Thomas was weird,
735
00:41:17,906 --> 00:41:19,737
that they had their disagreements,
736
00:41:21,552 --> 00:41:23,027
that they will never be friends,
737
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:25,399
I don't think he ever thought...
738
00:41:26,266 --> 00:41:28,815
... that he'll even get to fight
with Thomas Montgomery,
739
00:41:28,816 --> 00:41:30,649
let alone have it happen.
740
00:41:30,902 --> 00:41:33,790
Why didn't Montgomery go
after Jessi?
741
00:41:33,791 --> 00:41:34,984
Why... why Brian?
742
00:41:35,081 --> 00:41:38,580
Jessi was the one who...
743
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:40,664
ultimately...
744
00:41:40,763 --> 00:41:42,129
from any angle you look at it,
745
00:41:42,442 --> 00:41:43,777
committed the most serious...
746
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,574
murder.
747
00:41:45,574 --> 00:41:48,352
She cheated on him,
748
00:41:48,739 --> 00:41:50,808
and... exposed him.
749
00:41:51,146 --> 00:41:55,132
And yet Jessi wasn't killed.
750
00:41:55,332 --> 00:41:57,133
Why?
751
00:41:57,667 --> 00:42:01,383
Snipers don't kill women.
752
00:42:02,167 --> 00:42:05,160
At every turn
753
00:42:05,412 --> 00:42:08,614
act according to the role,
754
00:42:08,696 --> 00:42:10,038
and male,
755
00:42:10,418 --> 00:42:12,679
defends its territory,
756
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,023
his companions,
757
00:42:14,024 --> 00:42:16,020
killing another man.
758
00:42:16,149 --> 00:42:19,437
The thing that mammals did
since the beginning of time.
759
00:42:19,523 --> 00:42:21,829
The Internet has become his world, and
760
00:42:24,255 --> 00:42:25,861
I think he saw the...
761
00:42:25,862 --> 00:42:30,494
Brian was the only threat to
this world.
762
00:42:31,071 --> 00:42:34,280
Brian paid with his life for
lack of wisdom.
763
00:42:34,281 --> 00:42:36,597
It's an old saying:
764
00:42:36,598 --> 00:42:38,356
"If you play with fire,
765
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,619
you get burned once in a while."
766
00:42:43,855 --> 00:42:45,739
It's not the same
767
00:42:46,238 --> 00:42:48,951
with saying, "If you play with matches,
768
00:42:49,383 --> 00:42:51,781
you'll probably burn to death."
769
00:42:52,673 --> 00:42:54,871
Brian acted recklessly,
770
00:42:54,872 --> 00:42:57,064
acted insensitively,
771
00:42:57,526 --> 00:43:00,474
underestimated
772
00:43:00,475 --> 00:43:03,998
the explosive forces that have erupted here.
773
00:43:04,387 --> 00:43:07,042
He paid a price that no one
should have to pay for it.
774
00:43:08,982 --> 00:43:12,712
In memory of Brian Barrett
775
00:43:12,713 --> 00:43:18,422
"We miss you more than can be missed
can describe in words."
776
00:43:31,727 --> 00:43:35,306
If I were alive, I would tell my family
three things:
777
00:43:36,358 --> 00:43:39,101
I'm terribly sorry I didn't tell you
what's going on.
778
00:43:39,618 --> 00:43:41,167
I didn't suffer,
779
00:43:41,921 --> 00:43:44,615
and I'm glad I didn't know what I had
what was to follow.
780
00:43:45,863 --> 00:43:47,984
The investigation into my murder
781
00:43:47,985 --> 00:43:51,014
quickly focused on
Thomas Montgomery.
782
00:43:51,149 --> 00:43:53,494
But the cops couldn't find him right away
783
00:43:53,495 --> 00:43:56,157
and they were afraid they might go
after Jessi.
784
00:43:56,642 --> 00:44:00,886
Our fear was that if the killer
was Thomas Montgomery,
785
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:04,286
in a state of rage that drove him
to kill Brian Barrett,
786
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:09,300
might go after this girl in
Virginia. I was afraid she wasn't alive.
787
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:15,040
So for the next few hours I tried
to track him down.
788
00:44:17,208 --> 00:44:22,753
- And how did you find him?
- Two ways.
789
00:44:23,214 --> 00:44:27,090
I tried the department, looking for
driver's license, anything I could find.
790
00:44:27,258 --> 00:44:31,425
And while I was at the computer, trying
to see what I could find,
791
00:44:31,556 --> 00:44:34,349
I went on MySpace and found it.
792
00:44:37,856 --> 00:44:42,233
West Virginia police have been dispatched
immediately to Jessi's home.
793
00:44:44,783 --> 00:44:48,912
It was about 6 AM, between 6 and 6:30,
794
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:53,123
me, along with another cop,
ended up here,
795
00:44:53,591 --> 00:44:58,750
I came to this door. I knocked on the door,
a lady came to open the door.
796
00:44:59,918 --> 00:45:04,418
I asked her if her name was Jessi.
She denied it,
797
00:45:04,586 --> 00:45:07,378
said her daughter Jessi lived in Conquer.
798
00:45:08,005 --> 00:45:11,424
I asked her if she'd been around recently,
she said no.
799
00:45:12,005 --> 00:45:14,924
I asked her if she had a number
where I could reach her,
800
00:45:15,505 --> 00:45:18,924
he told me no, there's no way he could find her,
I said, "she's your daughter."
801
00:45:20,505 --> 00:45:23,924
It could be in danger,
I need to talk to her.
802
00:45:24,205 --> 00:45:28,924
She was agitated, her eyes had started
tearing up.
803
00:45:29,505 --> 00:45:33,924
You could tell something was wrong,
we kept questioning her,
804
00:45:34,505 --> 00:45:36,924
trying to find out where Jessi is.
805
00:45:37,005 --> 00:45:40,924
Then she burst into tears and said,
"I'm Jessi,
806
00:45:41,005 --> 00:45:44,924
I used my daughter's name on the internet."
807
00:45:49,505 --> 00:45:54,924
Oh, my God! That was the truth!
The unimaginable truth!
808
00:45:56,505 --> 00:46:00,924
Jessi, the real Jessi, hadn't written her
a word to Montgomery or me.
809
00:46:02,305 --> 00:46:04,924
It was her mother, Mary Shieler,
810
00:46:05,705 --> 00:46:11,124
who was sending Jessi and
underwear
811
00:46:11,705 --> 00:46:14,124
and had virtual sex on the Internet.
812
00:46:14,705 --> 00:46:18,124
Mother used her beautiful daughter
as bait.
813
00:46:18,405 --> 00:46:20,124
And this is what happened!
814
00:46:25,705 --> 00:46:30,124
I think she liked it, too, to the same extent
that he liked this fantasy.
815
00:46:32,005 --> 00:46:36,424
He was an 18-year-old sniper,
816
00:46:37,005 --> 00:46:40,424
and she was a beautiful 18-year-old woman.
817
00:46:41,005 --> 00:46:45,424
What does it say about her that she used
pictures of her daughter?
818
00:46:47,005 --> 00:46:49,424
What's terrifying is what didn't happen.
819
00:46:51,005 --> 00:46:54,424
He could have caused his daughter's death,
kidnapping his own daughter, harassing her.
820
00:46:56,005 --> 00:47:01,424
It produced the perfect storm...
821
00:47:03,005 --> 00:47:09,424
for anger and disappointment. And it made her day
day after day, over and over again.
822
00:47:11,005 --> 00:47:17,424
There's a cult of violence in her behavior!
It's unspeakable to me!
823
00:47:18,005 --> 00:47:25,424
It's all incredible... to this day,
it's an incredible investigation.
824
00:47:26,005 --> 00:47:30,424
The only person who told the truth
in this investigation is Brian Barrett.
825
00:47:37,005 --> 00:47:40,424
Here's what happened next.
Mary Shieler gave a statement to the police.
826
00:47:41,005 --> 00:47:45,424
She said Montgomery called her after the murder,
thinking it was Jessi.
827
00:47:46,005 --> 00:47:48,424
He told her it wasn't hard for him to handle
with her boyfriend
828
00:47:49,005 --> 00:47:51,424
and that no 18-year-old girl
is making fun of him.
829
00:47:53,005 --> 00:47:56,424
But when the police questioned Montgomery,
he refused to cooperate.
830
00:47:56,747 --> 00:47:59,500
He told them that he didn't kill me and it was
convincing.
831
00:48:00,747 --> 00:48:04,000
Denial of Thomas Montgomery
of having committed murder was accurate.
832
00:48:04,747 --> 00:48:06,500
In a certain metaphorical sense,
833
00:48:09,747 --> 00:48:12,500
the sniper did,
834
00:48:12,847 --> 00:48:15,500
just like a sniper would.
835
00:48:17,747 --> 00:48:20,500
With a sniper rifle and after
a well thought-out plan.
836
00:48:20,747 --> 00:48:23,500
He didn't leave without killing.
837
00:48:23,747 --> 00:48:30,500
He lived like a sniper and killed his rival,
like a sniper.
838
00:48:30,747 --> 00:48:34,500
He lived his fantasy to the last bullet.
839
00:48:40,747 --> 00:48:44,500
As Montgomery did not confess and
there were no eyewitnesses,
840
00:48:44,747 --> 00:48:49,500
the investigation has grown. His computer
Montgomery's computer was seized.
841
00:48:49,747 --> 00:48:52,500
Experts found thousands of messages
he had saved.
842
00:48:52,747 --> 00:48:55,500
It was an object left at the crime scene
843
00:48:56,747 --> 00:48:58,500
that matched Montgomery's DNA.
844
00:48:58,747 --> 00:49:01,500
A bullet clip found near the truck
also led to Montgomery.
845
00:49:02,747 --> 00:49:05,500
And since the murder weapon was never found,
846
00:49:05,747 --> 00:49:08,500
the search of Montgomery's home
turned up something startling.
847
00:49:08,747 --> 00:49:13,500
He had told one of his colleagues that,
if he ever committed a crime
848
00:49:13,747 --> 00:49:18,500
will use this type of weapon,
an M1A1 weapon,
849
00:49:18,747 --> 00:49:22,500
a very old military sniper rifle.
850
00:49:22,747 --> 00:49:26,500
Naturally, the clamps I found
at the crime scene
851
00:49:26,747 --> 00:49:29,500
came from that type of rifle
with a scope.
852
00:49:29,747 --> 00:49:37,500
Among his photos I saw that
type of rifle,
853
00:49:37,747 --> 00:49:44,500
I found an old photo, a photo that
Thomas took of Cindy
854
00:49:44,747 --> 00:49:47,500
when they lived in Florida
for a while.
855
00:49:47,747 --> 00:49:52,500
In the background of that photograph
I saw the same type of gun,
856
00:49:54,747 --> 00:49:58,500
and the FBI compared the photos and determined
that it's an M1A1
857
00:49:59,747 --> 00:50:05,500
in the gun rack. If you put all
the pieces together, everything fits.
858
00:50:06,747 --> 00:50:11,500
Investigators now had a solid case
and arrested Montgomery.
859
00:50:11,747 --> 00:50:16,500
He still thought Jessi was a teenager,
so imagine that moment
860
00:50:16,747 --> 00:50:18,500
when Montgomery is taken into custody
and is shown the picture
861
00:50:18,747 --> 00:50:23,500
to Mary Shieler and is told,
"that's who you've been talking to all this time."
862
00:50:24,857 --> 00:50:28,931
When the cops first told him
first time in the interrogation room,
863
00:50:30,662 --> 00:50:36,083
he realized that everything that had happened
had been a fantasy, she's not 18
864
00:50:36,707 --> 00:50:40,038
but 46 years... not a word.
865
00:50:40,539 --> 00:50:45,022
They told him there was blood in his car and
he changed the upholstery which was white.
866
00:50:46,281 --> 00:50:50,192
When I found out who it was, I was shocked
to the max,
867
00:50:50,192 --> 00:50:52,624
I really thought she was a teenager
18 years old.
868
00:50:52,948 --> 00:50:56,497
He played his role very well,
she was a great actress.
869
00:50:57,561 --> 00:51:04,630
Even when... Made me believe
he was 18 when
870
00:51:04,750 --> 00:51:09,081
thought he could talk to a sniper
on a combat mission,
871
00:51:09,102 --> 00:51:12,891
in a military vehicle, playing
on the computer, talking to each other,
872
00:51:13,461 --> 00:51:16,546
made me think she was a teenager
blonde 18-year-old girl with no brains.
873
00:51:16,999 --> 00:51:19,898
Because under no circumstances can you use
a computer in there.
874
00:51:21,236 --> 00:51:25,741
Even as I got older,
I was emotionally immature,
875
00:51:26,362 --> 00:51:31,048
when he caught me on a leash, he was done with me,
like a fish on dry land.
876
00:51:32,635 --> 00:51:35,329
And it was very good.
877
00:51:35,864 --> 00:51:38,101
Montgomery still didn't confess
he killed me.
878
00:51:38,543 --> 00:51:42,406
But he was clearly very troubled.
He tried to kill himself in prison.
879
00:51:43,093 --> 00:51:47,135
When he was arrested, he was solid,
the rugged type.
880
00:51:47,859 --> 00:51:53,516
And in the first two months he lost weight
around 50 kilos.
881
00:51:54,291 --> 00:51:57,383
I didn't eat until I got
58 kilos,
882
00:51:58,121 --> 00:52:02,926
we found sleeping pills on one of
cellmate of mine
883
00:52:03,006 --> 00:52:07,915
and I took 25 pills, trying to
to kill myself. I was a wreck,
884
00:52:08,125 --> 00:52:12,743
my children were all I had left.
Without them, there was no point in living.
885
00:52:12,778 --> 00:52:16,509
Montgomery's lawyer wanted to
plead not guilty by reason of insanity.
886
00:52:17,708 --> 00:52:22,877
At my appointment with the psychiatrist,
I realized I didn't have enough for this.
887
00:52:23,739 --> 00:52:27,802
Let's not forget that we are not talking about defence on
insanity defense for an internet relationship,
888
00:52:27,959 --> 00:52:30,927
but the insanity defense for
the murder of a young man.
889
00:52:31,549 --> 00:52:36,925
And the way it happened
indicated that everything had been planned
890
00:52:38,380 --> 00:52:41,033
that it was well thought out, that...
891
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:47,840
we didn't have enough material for
this type of defence.
892
00:52:48,272 --> 00:52:51,377
Montogomery wanted a trial.
Said he had an alibi.
893
00:52:52,043 --> 00:52:54,906
He claimed he was home at the time
when the murder took place
894
00:52:55,007 --> 00:52:57,424
and that his wife and children
will confirm his alibi.
895
00:52:57,847 --> 00:53:00,779
But Cindy Montgomery didn't want to have
anything to do with it.
896
00:53:01,301 --> 00:53:03,318
She told the cops that her husband
hadn't been home that night.
897
00:53:04,478 --> 00:53:09,256
Montgomery spoke to his daughters
in a prison phone call.
898
00:53:10,061 --> 00:53:13,049
I'll protect you from all that.
899
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,300
But your mother knows that if
don't testify, I'm gonna lose
900
00:53:20,180 --> 00:53:22,914
and I'm going to jail.
901
00:53:23,492 --> 00:53:26,628
But I love you more than
you'll ever know.
902
00:53:32,020 --> 00:53:35,498
- I love you so much.
- I love you too, Daddy.
903
00:53:40,070 --> 00:53:47,013
He didn't want to involve his daughters in the process.
904
00:53:48,898 --> 00:53:54,901
That's when we started talking seriously
about how he was going to plead.
905
00:53:55,627 --> 00:53:59,749
How long did you talk about the plea?
They say there was pressure.
906
00:54:00,515 --> 00:54:04,081
I don't think "pressure" is the right word.
907
00:54:04,839 --> 00:54:11,861
In my experience, and I told him this,
given the evidence,
908
00:54:12,042 --> 00:54:15,050
an acquittal will be almost impossible,
that's my professional advice.
909
00:54:15,747 --> 00:54:19,319
And now it's time to salvage what we can.
910
00:54:20,031 --> 00:54:25,777
I met with him on Friday, Saturday
and Sunday,
911
00:54:26,032 --> 00:54:30,042
we met three times over the weekend.
And Monday morning, I think that was
912
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,287
the day we met to set
the plea.
913
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,900
Montgomery pleads to murder
with aggravating circumstances
914
00:54:42,257 --> 00:54:44,001
In view of the process
915
00:54:44,129 --> 00:54:45,929
we have started the jury selection.
916
00:54:47,922 --> 00:54:50,049
Judge: You intentionally shot
this person with a gun?
917
00:54:50,365 --> 00:54:52,390
- Yes.
- What kind of gun?
918
00:54:53,425 --> 00:54:56,331
- 30 caliber.
- How many times have you fired?
919
00:54:56,517 --> 00:54:58,059
Three times.
920
00:54:59,083 --> 00:55:06,464
It's an absolutely senseless crime
and all parties have made clear.
921
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:10,056
The result of a non-existent relationship,
a love triangle between people
922
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,256
who didn't even know each other.
923
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,000
Montgomery is sentenced to 20 years
of imprisonment
924
00:55:17,642 --> 00:55:22,088
In my opinion, the evidence was overwhelming
and he figured it out,
925
00:55:22,662 --> 00:55:26,881
because someone of his character
Thomas Montgomery doesn't plead guilty
926
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,849
unless he knows he'll be convicted.
927
00:55:32,045 --> 00:55:34,935
He knows he's guilty and that's why he said
under oath
928
00:55:35,698 --> 00:55:38,925
that he was guilty and pleaded guilty,
929
00:55:40,005 --> 00:55:43,441
which at least allowed him to get out
from prison
930
00:55:45,010 --> 00:55:46,448
during his lifetime.
931
00:55:47,172 --> 00:55:49,994
If he had been convicted he would have received
between 25 years and life imprisonment,
932
00:55:50,014 --> 00:55:51,528
Instead he got 20 years.
933
00:55:51,607 --> 00:55:55,396
If they behave in prison,
he could do 17 years.
934
00:55:55,953 --> 00:55:58,006
Do you think the lawyer shouldn't have
demand a trial?
935
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,506
18 years is an extremely long time
936
00:56:02,685 --> 00:56:06,616
for an ordinary citizen with no background
to spend in prison.
937
00:56:09,771 --> 00:56:14,819
But a young life is infinite
more valuable.
938
00:56:18,301 --> 00:56:21,419
From the point of view of those
who care about Brian,
939
00:56:23,711 --> 00:56:27,276
the sentence is an insult.
940
00:56:28,888 --> 00:56:33,094
It's a commemorative plaque that was given to us
given to us at his funeral.
941
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,000
BRIAN'S LAST PHOTO
942
00:56:47,655 --> 00:56:51,421
If everyone involved had given
one phone call...
943
00:56:52,237 --> 00:56:56,090
Even the people at the factory,
if they called to say,
944
00:56:56,100 --> 00:57:00,000
"There's a problem here at work that
you should know about."
945
00:57:01,338 --> 00:57:08,306
Then we would have had the opportunity to sit by
to talk to him, but Brian didn't complain about anything,
946
00:57:08,835 --> 00:57:10,953
never said, "Jesus, these people
are giving me a hard time."
947
00:57:11,722 --> 00:57:15,868
I blame myself for finding them
his job ad in the paper...
948
00:57:16,782 --> 00:57:19,471
I blame myself for everything.
949
00:57:20,133 --> 00:57:24,029
I blame my career choice,
as an electronics repairman,
950
00:57:24,972 --> 00:57:27,143
for having a computer
in the house.
951
00:57:29,252 --> 00:57:37,700
It was said that Jessica, the daughter, was a little
everything he would want in a girl.
952
00:57:38,340 --> 00:57:42,793
He liked blond girls, sports girls.
He was on the basketball and softball teams.
953
00:57:43,530 --> 00:57:49,292
He was a baseball fan. If he had
another image of a girl in his mind,
954
00:57:50,312 --> 00:57:52,115
maybe it wouldn't have gotten this far.
955
00:57:54,867 --> 00:57:58,320
He mailed her the pictures that
he had sent to Montgomery,
956
00:57:59,343 --> 00:58:03,038
received a dozen photos.
957
00:58:03,802 --> 00:58:06,755
He put it all together and started
to believe that Jessica was a real person.
958
00:58:07,372 --> 00:58:12,356
I was shocked to learn that a mother can
do something like that,
959
00:58:13,102 --> 00:58:16,067
to pretend she's a child,
960
00:58:17,550 --> 00:58:19,492
to attract men on the internet,
961
00:58:20,621 --> 00:58:25,644
how can a mother do such
things.
962
00:58:25,862 --> 00:58:27,958
A real mother would never
such a thing.
963
00:58:28,444 --> 00:58:31,551
Her actions have caused the greatest
pain of mine,
964
00:58:32,577 --> 00:58:35,158
to lose my oldest son.
965
00:58:35,759 --> 00:58:40,209
We were shocked, we couldn't understand
how someone could be so...
966
00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:48,130
...immoral, to do something so horrible.
967
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Mary Shieler was not charged
in this lawsuit
968
00:58:55,121 --> 00:58:58,186
How do you feel about the fact
that she wasn't charged?
969
00:58:58,948 --> 00:59:02,468
It can record on the tape which are
our feelings for her?
970
00:59:02,971 --> 00:59:08,827
I think there should be a law for
protect other people and children on the Internet
971
00:59:09,125 --> 00:59:11,522
because I think there's not enough
control for their actions.
972
00:59:12,190 --> 00:59:16,263
She can't be locked up for what she did
because there is no law for that,
973
00:59:17,544 --> 00:59:21,759
so someone can do something like this
and get away with it.
974
00:59:28,403 --> 00:59:31,957
In a perfect world where you can
create the laws, should it be condemned?
975
00:59:32,405 --> 00:59:37,475
She's got her share of guilt, she might have
helped create this situation...
976
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,000
but the bottom line is that Tom Montgomery is
who pulled the trigger.
977
00:59:43,944 --> 00:59:51,760
In New York it's difficult, you have to prove
that she helped him commit the crime
978
00:59:52,398 --> 00:59:56,629
or told him to commit murder,
979
00:59:57,491 --> 01:00:01,969
which he didn't,
set him up to do it.
980
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,643
But he didn't say, "yes, we should
take care of Brian."
981
01:00:08,678 --> 01:00:10,971
"you should kill Brian."
982
01:00:13,649 --> 01:00:19,642
It's a fine line, that's why I said...
she should feel responsible?
983
01:00:20,042 --> 01:00:22,060
I hope so.
984
01:00:23,081 --> 01:00:25,089
- Is he remorseful?
- I don't think so.
985
01:00:25,218 --> 01:00:26,997
I don't think it does.
986
01:00:27,032 --> 01:00:30,580
This is Tim Shieler,
recently divorced from Mary.
987
01:00:30,991 --> 01:00:33,522
Do you think she's in any way responsible
for the death of that young man?
988
01:00:34,099 --> 01:00:37,722
Yes. I can say that without any hesitation.
Because...
989
01:00:38,293 --> 01:00:41,207
Tim says Mary kept lying
even after my death.
990
01:00:41,799 --> 01:00:44,247
He didn't tell his family the whole truth either.
991
01:00:46,300 --> 01:00:50,185
Last year when he had to go
to New York
992
01:00:51,375 --> 01:00:54,244
to testify at the trial,
that's when I first heard about it...
993
01:00:54,699 --> 01:00:58,624
about everything that happened...
994
01:00:59,552 --> 01:01:01,350
Even then he told me,
"I have to tell you something."
995
01:01:02,862 --> 01:01:08,208
I said, "Fine."
He said, "I did something bad."
996
01:01:09,121 --> 01:01:15,051
He said, "I went online,
"on a chat room,
997
01:01:15,934 --> 01:01:20,926
one of the men I was talking to,
998
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:26,974
I didn't realize it, but he was in trouble
mental problems," I think that's how he put it,
999
01:01:28,439 --> 01:01:32,020
"and I was also talking to one of his colleagues
"and I was chatting with one of my co-workers,
1000
01:01:32,627 --> 01:01:35,125
and the other got jealous and killed him."
1001
01:01:37,936 --> 01:01:40,884
I started asking him questions,
and he said,
1002
01:01:42,558 --> 01:01:46,295
"I was one of the many people
who were in the chat room".
1003
01:01:46,922 --> 01:01:51,652
- Did he tell you what they were talking about?
- No. He said they were talking about the weather,
1004
01:01:52,755 --> 01:01:55,919
about the games they played,
can you believe that someone
1005
01:01:56,652 --> 01:02:00,069
could actually say something like that...
on general topics.
1006
01:02:00,958 --> 01:02:04,760
I thought, how could he do that?
He did.
1007
01:02:05,317 --> 01:02:07,962
When did you find out he was using Jessi?
1008
01:02:08,536 --> 01:02:11,919
When Jessi came in and said. I think...
1009
01:02:12,671 --> 01:02:16,885
Friends and locals have commented
about the event...
1010
01:02:17,889 --> 01:02:19,637
so he Googled his mother,
1011
01:02:20,524 --> 01:02:22,956
and when he looked for it, it all came out
it all came out.
1012
01:02:24,783 --> 01:02:27,571
My little girl found out everything.
1013
01:02:28,135 --> 01:02:31,949
She looked and everything was there with her.
1014
01:02:32,964 --> 01:02:35,732
Our house, with her name,
1015
01:02:36,570 --> 01:02:37,610
and her photos.
1016
01:02:39,306 --> 01:02:41,973
He came and told me,
"Daddy, did you know about this"?
1017
01:02:44,554 --> 01:02:48,492
How to tell your child,
"I had no idea."
1018
01:02:50,885 --> 01:02:56,176
I talked to her for a few hours to convince her
that I didn't know what her mother did.
1019
01:02:57,579 --> 01:03:00,306
I couldn't believe what her mother had done.
1020
01:03:01,501 --> 01:03:05,850
How can you do that to a stranger?
And how can you do it to your child?
1021
01:03:11,125 --> 01:03:13,995
- Did you have a good marriage?
- I thought so.
1022
01:03:14,420 --> 01:03:18,623
I had planned my whole life around this person.
I thought he'd be with me till the day I died.
1023
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:23,901
And when you finally realize
something's different
1024
01:03:25,142 --> 01:03:29,753
is when you leave for work,
or you come home from work,
1025
01:03:30,908 --> 01:03:33,404
and she's sitting on the couch with her laptop
1026
01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:38,687
and doesn't even look at you or say,
"bye, I love you", "I love you",
1027
01:03:39,581 --> 01:03:42,866
It doesn't even concern me.
He doesn't look up from what he's doing.
1028
01:03:43,805 --> 01:03:46,612
And you start to wonder what's wrong.
1029
01:03:47,424 --> 01:03:50,312
And when you try to talk to her,
she gets defensive.
1030
01:03:50,898 --> 01:03:52,066
Have you never tried to look
into her laptop?
1031
01:03:52,808 --> 01:03:55,690
I'd go up to her and kiss her and
she was closing the laptop.
1032
01:03:56,482 --> 01:04:00,940
I always wondered,
and I wondered why she did it.
1033
01:04:01,578 --> 01:04:03,601
I told her I just wanted to kiss her.
1034
01:04:04,895 --> 01:04:09,025
- Was it like a sex life for her?
- Are you kidding me? Might as well have been.
1035
01:04:09,786 --> 01:04:14,013
As I told you, I thought
there's something strange
1036
01:04:14,396 --> 01:04:18,360
and now I wonder and always
I will always wonder
1037
01:04:19,899 --> 01:04:22,693
which was the thing he was looking for
on the internet.
1038
01:04:23,276 --> 01:04:26,236
Jessi asked me why she did
her mother did that.
1039
01:04:27,108 --> 01:04:31,070
And I had to tell him that I had formed
an opinion of Mary over the years,
1040
01:04:32,307 --> 01:04:35,624
that Mary is capable of many things
and believes she won't get caught.
1041
01:04:37,497 --> 01:04:42,816
If she thinks she can cry or
explain, then it's okay.
1042
01:04:43,975 --> 01:04:48,453
It's something she used to do when she was little,
when Mary was trapped...
1043
01:04:49,498 --> 01:04:54,903
her mother once caught her doing something and
she started crying. I was joking about that.
1044
01:04:57,754 --> 01:04:59,960
These things should tell you something.
1045
01:05:01,721 --> 01:05:03,557
But you laugh at them, that's all.
1046
01:05:04,293 --> 01:05:07,374
You think, that was in the past,
now it's better, now it's different.
1047
01:05:09,258 --> 01:05:10,932
Looks like Mary's been a good liar all her life.
1048
01:05:11,841 --> 01:05:12,889
Yes.
1049
01:05:15,759 --> 01:05:20,626
This is Jessi. The real Jessi.
1050
01:05:21,337 --> 01:05:23,480
Torn, distraught, fragile.
1051
01:05:24,891 --> 01:05:30,311
She did not want to be interviewed.
But she severed all contact with her mother.
1052
01:05:31,038 --> 01:05:35,440
He refuses to talk to her. Jessi says
that her mother still hasn't apologized
1053
01:05:35,573 --> 01:05:36,847
nor did he explain why he lied.
1054
01:05:37,544 --> 01:05:39,402
Betrayal has devastated her.
1055
01:05:40,092 --> 01:05:42,462
A mother should protect you and
love you.
1056
01:05:43,123 --> 01:05:49,979
Finally, what should happen
to bring Jessi and her mother closer together
1057
01:05:50,890 --> 01:05:54,104
is forgiveness.
1058
01:05:55,419 --> 01:05:57,405
But there is a problem.
1059
01:05:58,547 --> 01:06:01,226
If I were talking to Jessi right now, I'd tell her,
1060
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,555
"Jessi, there's a rule for forgiveness:
1061
01:06:07,570 --> 01:06:11,937
Never forgive those who
repent."
1062
01:06:12,948 --> 01:06:18,863
As long as her mother doesn't realize
and takes responsibility
1063
01:06:18,928 --> 01:06:21,660
the magnitude of the harm he has done
1064
01:06:21,808 --> 01:06:26,155
has no remorse, and if he does not repent,
she cannot be forgiven.
1065
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,000
Should he go to jail?
1066
01:06:32,621 --> 01:06:35,723
I'm surprised it hasn't been closed.
I'm really surprised.
1067
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:42,900
There are days when I think that this is the only way
he might have realized he'd done something wrong.
1068
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,657
It took 6 months,
a private detective
1069
01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:55,057
and an unannounced visit from
reporters
1070
01:06:55,166 --> 01:06:57,136
to get Mary Shieler's version
about this story.
1071
01:06:58,114 --> 01:07:00,971
She lives with her parents in this
new house.
1072
01:07:01,808 --> 01:07:05,758
He refused the presence of the camera inside.
He doesn't want Thomas Montgomery
1073
01:07:05,818 --> 01:07:08,240
to find out what it looks like when it comes out
from prison.
1074
01:07:09,773 --> 01:07:13,871
When he explained why he did it, he defended himself
saying she just wanted to be a good mother.
1075
01:07:14,708 --> 01:07:17,465
And that he didn't want it to happen
to happen.
1076
01:07:17,971 --> 01:07:19,719
She says she was bored and
lonely.
1077
01:07:21,078 --> 01:07:23,455
Her children had grown up,
her husband was mostly at work.
1078
01:07:24,588 --> 01:07:26,059
And that he only wanted to have fun
a little fun on the Internet.
1079
01:07:27,596 --> 01:07:29,378
He claims that the only reason
he kept talking to Montgomery
1080
01:07:30,413 --> 01:07:33,378
was to keep him from talking
with real teenage girls.
1081
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:37,860
To put it simply, I don't believe Mary
when she says that.
1082
01:07:38,483 --> 01:07:45,415
I think this is a comment meant
to make her look like a victim,
1083
01:07:45,655 --> 01:07:47,208
and not as an evil person.
1084
01:07:47,976 --> 01:07:49,856
It's a denial of her involvement.
1085
01:07:50,722 --> 01:07:56,145
I don't think he acted on those
reasons, she only took care of herself,
1086
01:07:57,004 --> 01:07:59,267
is concerned only with her needs
psychological needs.
1087
01:07:59,406 --> 01:08:05,319
And I think he did that at the cost of losing
another human life.
1088
01:08:06,639 --> 01:08:11,255
He escaped by not taking part directly
in this, as far as I know,
1089
01:08:12,236 --> 01:08:17,224
but is still associated with the death of a
of a 22-year-old.
1090
01:08:18,700 --> 01:08:20,700
Before his life began.
1091
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:29,406
- And for what?
- Excitement, boredom...
1092
01:08:30,313 --> 01:08:32,222
or something... I don't know.
1093
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:36,505
You said something very nice on the phone, that
you've been thinking about contacting the Barretts.
1094
01:08:37,665 --> 01:08:40,000
I'd like to, but I don't know how.
1095
01:08:41,459 --> 01:08:44,332
How would I feel if I were them?
1096
01:08:45,648 --> 01:08:51,296
Would they take my call?
Or a letter?
1097
01:08:53,261 --> 01:08:55,171
Or something else from someone who
that has anything to do with that woman?
1098
01:08:55,768 --> 01:08:57,577
If I were them...
1099
01:08:58,705 --> 01:09:00,218
I don't know.
1100
01:09:01,347 --> 01:09:05,921
There are no words, how can you say something
to ease the suffering
1101
01:09:06,082 --> 01:09:08,225
to someone who lost their child?
1102
01:09:09,124 --> 01:09:14,766
It wasn't an accident, it was frivolous.
and stupid.
1103
01:09:16,606 --> 01:09:18,698
When the police confiscated the computer
Mary Shieler's computer
1104
01:09:19,584 --> 01:09:21,077
found something troubling.
1105
01:09:22,635 --> 01:09:24,468
There were hundreds and hundreds of pictures of Jessi.
1106
01:09:25,801 --> 01:09:28,194
It was like he was stalking his daughter with
a camera.
1107
01:09:29,868 --> 01:09:32,468
Many photos were obviously taken without
Jessi's knowledge.
1108
01:09:33,621 --> 01:09:37,682
But most worrying was that Mary
was sending pictures to several men.
1109
01:09:38,547 --> 01:09:40,296
Not just Montgomery and me.
1110
01:09:40,706 --> 01:09:44,669
There was a video Mary had made
a compromising video
1111
01:09:45,599 --> 01:09:47,041
with Jessi in a mini skirt
1112
01:09:47,271 --> 01:09:49,902
and emailed it back, asking
men if they liked it.
1113
01:09:52,066 --> 01:09:55,586
Mary's son Tim Junior refused
also refused to speak on camera.
1114
01:09:56,362 --> 01:09:58,791
His mother didn't talk about what
what happened.
1115
01:09:59,628 --> 01:10:01,906
But he says it's started again
spending a lot of time on the computer.
1116
01:10:02,649 --> 01:10:04,162
And he's worried.
1117
01:10:05,163 --> 01:10:07,667
They said Mary Shieler can't be
charged with any crime.
1118
01:10:08,421 --> 01:10:10,986
She didn't pull the trigger, true.
1119
01:10:11,822 --> 01:10:15,258
But as far as I'm concerned,
he did something much worse.
1120
01:10:16,575 --> 01:10:20,971
He unleashed an internet fantasy that
more addictive than a drug.
1121
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,000
And it's as lethal as a bullet.
1122
01:10:30,545 --> 01:10:38,355
Biologically speaking, even a snail would
give its life to protect its offspring.
1123
01:10:39,791 --> 01:10:41,982
I think she should be here, too.
with me.
1124
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,000
She had to deal with it too.
1125
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:47,200
I'd like to know why he did it,
1126
01:10:47,721 --> 01:10:50,476
why he used his daughter that way.
1127
01:10:51,838 --> 01:10:56,226
Did he have the same problems I did?
1128
01:10:57,050 --> 01:10:59,026
Lack of communication in her marriage
and then some, but...
1129
01:11:00,850 --> 01:11:02,869
why use your own daughter?
1130
01:11:04,197 --> 01:11:06,223
You could have made up any name.
1131
01:11:07,107 --> 01:11:09,627
That's all I want to know, why he did it.
1132
01:11:11,123 --> 01:11:12,856
Don't make the same mistakes I did.
1133
01:11:13,940 --> 01:11:16,135
Don't keep it all inside you...
1134
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:21,000
don't think you're solving your problems
by talking to someone on the internet,
1135
01:11:21,642 --> 01:11:23,328
because it only makes it worse
things.
1136
01:11:24,090 --> 01:11:28,216
And don't alienate your family from you.
1137
01:11:28,896 --> 01:11:31,440
When you're in trouble, keep your family
close to make you stronger.
1138
01:11:34,136 --> 01:11:37,485
I see it in my children's eyes
every time I see them.
1139
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:44,052
And it hurts even more.
The guilt kills me every day.
1140
01:11:47,610 --> 01:11:49,890
From my point of view,
what we have to learn from all this...
1141
01:11:51,032 --> 01:11:59,896
is as simple as it gets,
to be kind and not lie.
1142
01:12:03,455 --> 01:12:08,739
We've been on this planet for better
for a million years.
1143
01:12:10,847 --> 01:12:15,869
If this interview were to take place
today in a million years,
1144
01:12:16,864 --> 01:12:22,956
to be kind and not lie would be
equally good advice.
1145
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:28,800
Marinesniper: Honey, do me a favor.
1146
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,800
talhotblond: ce
1147
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,300
marinesniper: think before you act
1148
01:12:33,500 --> 01:12:37,000
marinesniper: think about the problems
or suffering that may be caused
1149
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,900
Thomas Montgomery appealed.
He says he was pressured to plead guilty.
1150
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:08,000
Barrett family hopes to create new laws
for internet accountability.
1151
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:18,000
Tim Shieler started going out on dates.
1152
01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:27,000
Jessi is rebuilding her life without her mother.
1153
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,000
First public images of Mary Shieler
1154
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:52,000
He wants to write a book about the dangers
of the internet.
1155
01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:05,400
What's great about us
is our fantasy because
1156
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,700
fusion with technology have become creations
1157
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:15,700
and their interference and coexistence
with our basic needs
1158
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,000
become evil, violent and murderous.
1159
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:24,000
It's the best and worst thing about us,
but what's unique about us.
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