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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,442 --> 00:00:11,011 [ominous music] 2 00:00:49,701 --> 00:00:51,703 Stephen King is just quite hard 3 00:00:51,790 --> 00:00:55,316 to adapt, right, because 90% of his books 4 00:00:55,403 --> 00:00:58,754 take place in someone's head. 5 00:00:58,841 --> 00:01:00,190 And it's not just someone's head, 6 00:01:00,277 --> 00:01:01,583 but it's like their backstory. It's their mother. 7 00:01:01,670 --> 00:01:03,237 It's how they grew up. 8 00:01:03,237 --> 00:01:05,021 It's this like interesting story about these pair of pants 9 00:01:05,108 --> 00:01:06,327 they're wearing and why they're important. 10 00:01:06,414 --> 00:01:08,068 And that's why we love to read Stephen King. 11 00:01:10,983 --> 00:01:13,638 But you can't do that in a 90-minute movie. 12 00:01:13,725 --> 00:01:14,813 It doesn't translate. 13 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:16,163 It doesn't work. 14 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:18,208 And so all of these people, God bless them, 15 00:01:18,208 --> 00:01:23,909 who chose to adapt Stephen King, that's a tough job, right? 16 00:01:23,996 --> 00:01:26,869 And there's some that I think really work and some that don't. 17 00:01:30,177 --> 00:01:35,356 You could do a whole season of just the King and all the work 18 00:01:35,443 --> 00:01:39,882 in film that his writing has inspired from the stuff 19 00:01:39,969 --> 00:01:42,363 at the very bottom that is still kind of wonderful-- 20 00:01:42,450 --> 00:01:45,279 and I'd love to watch the Graveyard Shifts of the world-- 21 00:01:45,366 --> 00:01:47,585 all the way up to cinema classics. 22 00:01:52,895 --> 00:01:57,247 What are the must see Stephen King adaptations? 23 00:01:57,334 --> 00:02:01,643 [classical music] 24 00:02:01,730 --> 00:02:04,298 JOE HILL: The very best Stephen King adaptations 25 00:02:04,385 --> 00:02:05,386 are not horror films. 26 00:02:09,216 --> 00:02:12,915 The very best of them would be Shawshank Redemption 27 00:02:13,002 --> 00:02:15,135 and Stand By Me-- 28 00:02:15,222 --> 00:02:17,398 You guys want to go see a dead body? 29 00:02:17,485 --> 00:02:19,487 which aren't scary pictures. 30 00:02:19,487 --> 00:02:22,620 They have scares in them, but they're 31 00:02:22,707 --> 00:02:24,056 clearly not horror films. 32 00:02:24,144 --> 00:02:26,668 Why did he have to die, Chris? 33 00:02:26,755 --> 00:02:28,844 Why did Danny have to die? 34 00:02:28,931 --> 00:02:32,500 One of the reasons that Shawshank and Stand By Me were 35 00:02:32,587 --> 00:02:35,503 so effective is because the filmmakers 36 00:02:35,590 --> 00:02:39,681 were free to focus on the rich inner lives of those characters. 37 00:02:39,768 --> 00:02:43,206 Hope is a dangerous thing. 38 00:02:43,293 --> 00:02:45,252 Hope can drive a man insane. 39 00:02:45,339 --> 00:02:47,863 JOE HILL:--whereas with the horror films, 40 00:02:47,863 --> 00:02:50,039 they always find themselves in competition 41 00:02:50,126 --> 00:02:51,301 with the scares on the page. 42 00:02:51,388 --> 00:02:53,303 [ominous music] 43 00:02:53,390 --> 00:02:57,568 I'm coming for you, Rachel. 44 00:02:57,655 --> 00:02:59,918 And that is a competition they are almost always destined 45 00:03:00,005 --> 00:03:02,834 to lose that it's always going to be more 46 00:03:02,921 --> 00:03:05,707 frightening on the page and in the reader's 47 00:03:05,794 --> 00:03:08,318 imagination than anything they can possibly get on the screen. 48 00:03:08,405 --> 00:03:09,101 BOY 1: Georgie. 49 00:03:10,886 --> 00:03:11,626 BOY 2: Bill. 50 00:03:11,713 --> 00:03:14,585 [ominous music] 51 00:03:16,544 --> 00:03:21,331 [muffled speech] 52 00:03:25,161 --> 00:03:28,382 Of the horror films there's no doubt that the best of them 53 00:03:28,469 --> 00:03:34,605 is Andy and Barbara Muschietti's take on It chapter 1. 54 00:03:34,692 --> 00:03:37,695 I think It chapter 1 is and what the Muschietti has put 55 00:03:37,782 --> 00:03:39,306 on the screen was better than anything 56 00:03:39,393 --> 00:03:41,351 De Palma managed, anything that Kubrick managed. 57 00:03:41,438 --> 00:03:44,049 [ominous music] 58 00:03:45,964 --> 00:03:48,445 Part one is a masterpiece. 59 00:03:48,532 --> 00:03:51,143 I think everything works so well in that movie. 60 00:03:54,582 --> 00:03:57,367 And it's also so much love for Stephen King that-- 61 00:03:57,454 --> 00:04:00,892 [ominous music] 62 00:04:03,852 --> 00:04:06,594 that's a book that changed my life. 63 00:04:06,681 --> 00:04:08,813 And when I watched the movie, I was like so relieved. 64 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:11,990 It's like, oh, he nailed it. 65 00:04:12,077 --> 00:04:13,470 Stan, we all have to go. 66 00:04:13,557 --> 00:04:16,691 That's a fantastic adaptation because it stayed so 67 00:04:16,778 --> 00:04:17,866 close to the source material. 68 00:04:20,695 --> 00:04:22,610 No. 69 00:04:22,697 --> 00:04:24,786 No. 70 00:04:24,873 --> 00:04:26,483 It felt like the book. 71 00:04:26,483 --> 00:04:29,486 You know, I got that feeling of the struggles of being a kid 72 00:04:29,573 --> 00:04:31,096 and how you're going to figure that out-- 73 00:04:31,096 --> 00:04:32,141 Boop, boop, boop, boop. 74 00:04:32,228 --> 00:04:33,795 [laughs] 75 00:04:33,882 --> 00:04:36,276 the monster kind of being representative of all of that. 76 00:04:36,363 --> 00:04:38,495 [laughter] 77 00:04:40,715 --> 00:04:44,109 One of the reasons the film is so effective and so powerful 78 00:04:44,196 --> 00:04:46,547 is that we sense that the Muschietti's 79 00:04:46,547 --> 00:04:48,331 care about those kids. 80 00:04:48,418 --> 00:04:50,812 Stay cool, Ben from social class. 81 00:04:50,899 --> 00:04:52,422 Yeah. 82 00:04:52,509 --> 00:04:54,163 You too, Beverly. 83 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:56,078 Think tough new kid on the block. 84 00:04:56,165 --> 00:04:58,733 JOE HILL: They respect and love those kids. 85 00:04:58,820 --> 00:05:06,262 And that compassion for Bev and Bill and Ben and Stan and Eddie 86 00:05:06,349 --> 00:05:10,135 run so deep that we can't help but be swept up by it 87 00:05:10,222 --> 00:05:13,051 and care for them as well. 88 00:05:13,138 --> 00:05:15,097 And so when they're put in mortal danger, 89 00:05:15,184 --> 00:05:19,144 we feel it very deeply. 90 00:05:19,231 --> 00:05:21,451 That seems like one of the main elements you need 91 00:05:21,538 --> 00:05:24,236 for a successful adaptation is taking a little bit of time 92 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:27,675 to build that world and to put those characters forward. 93 00:05:27,762 --> 00:05:29,807 I'm not afraid of you. 94 00:05:29,894 --> 00:05:31,461 You can't just lead with the action. 95 00:05:31,548 --> 00:05:33,028 You can't lead with the horror. 96 00:05:33,028 --> 00:05:35,770 You have to lead with the protagonist and the world 97 00:05:35,857 --> 00:05:36,640 around them. 98 00:05:36,727 --> 00:05:39,991 [ominous music] 99 00:05:48,826 --> 00:05:51,742 Oh, The Mist, oh, the movie that 100 00:05:51,829 --> 00:05:53,788 will never leave your brain. 101 00:05:56,704 --> 00:05:59,576 Oh, the way you feel the cold wetness 102 00:05:59,663 --> 00:06:03,493 of what that mist must have felt like and that almost like 103 00:06:03,493 --> 00:06:04,625 got in my mouth. 104 00:06:04,625 --> 00:06:06,409 It tasted sort of moldy. 105 00:06:09,238 --> 00:06:11,936 What's it, daddy? 106 00:06:12,023 --> 00:06:13,329 Mist. 107 00:06:13,416 --> 00:06:15,070 Yeah, it's the darkest of all adaptations, 108 00:06:15,157 --> 00:06:18,116 [laughs] the one in which humanity 109 00:06:18,203 --> 00:06:19,770 gets to really show its colors. 110 00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:25,907 The Mist mostly takes place in a supermarket. 111 00:06:25,907 --> 00:06:29,127 There is a big storm, all these people go to the supermarket 112 00:06:29,214 --> 00:06:30,390 to get supplies. 113 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:33,131 And during that time, a mist rolls in. 114 00:06:33,131 --> 00:06:35,917 Something in the mist. 115 00:06:36,004 --> 00:06:38,572 Something in the mist to John Lee. 116 00:06:38,659 --> 00:06:41,096 And monsters come out of the mist. 117 00:06:41,096 --> 00:06:44,752 [screaming] 118 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,147 But the thing that's scary about the movie is not the monsters, 119 00:06:49,234 --> 00:06:50,714 it's the people. 120 00:06:50,801 --> 00:06:53,064 Well, it is this kind of hubris that brought the wrath 121 00:06:53,151 --> 00:06:54,544 of God in the first place. 122 00:06:54,544 --> 00:06:56,111 This kind of pride and defiance of-- 123 00:06:56,198 --> 00:06:57,329 [bangs] 124 00:06:57,329 --> 00:06:59,419 You know so much about this community 125 00:06:59,506 --> 00:07:03,335 so quickly because they are both specific point 126 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:06,469 of view characters and universal stereotypes. 127 00:07:06,556 --> 00:07:09,864 So you can immediately click in, but then 128 00:07:09,951 --> 00:07:12,649 King has created such specific voices 129 00:07:12,736 --> 00:07:14,303 for every single character. 130 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:16,653 And the adaptation honors that in a beautiful way. 131 00:07:16,740 --> 00:07:18,350 Well, if you need a friend. 132 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:22,354 I have a friend, God up above. 133 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:24,095 I talk to him every day. 134 00:07:25,836 --> 00:07:29,231 The story is about human dynamics, what happens to people 135 00:07:29,318 --> 00:07:30,537 when they're under pressure. 136 00:07:30,537 --> 00:07:32,408 Shut up you miserable buzzard. 137 00:07:32,408 --> 00:07:33,453 You old bitch! 138 00:07:33,540 --> 00:07:34,802 No, no, no, no, no. 139 00:07:34,932 --> 00:07:36,194 But who are you? 140 00:07:36,325 --> 00:07:38,022 Are you the crazy lady in the supermarket? 141 00:07:38,109 --> 00:07:40,590 Or are you the hero who's going to try to actually help people? 142 00:07:40,677 --> 00:07:41,461 Douse the lights. 143 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:42,766 [screaming] 144 00:07:42,853 --> 00:07:43,593 Look out! 145 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,553 Look out! 146 00:07:46,553 --> 00:07:49,599 Frank had always been very much a formalist as a filmmaker. 147 00:07:49,686 --> 00:07:52,472 [ominous music] 148 00:07:57,477 --> 00:07:59,696 His movies were very studio style. 149 00:07:59,783 --> 00:08:05,659 They were very elegant and precise and well thought out. 150 00:08:05,789 --> 00:08:09,619 After he had done a pilot for a TV show, 151 00:08:09,706 --> 00:08:13,928 he completely changed his philosophy about filmmaking. 152 00:08:14,058 --> 00:08:14,972 Glass is going to give. 153 00:08:15,059 --> 00:08:17,801 [glass shattering] 154 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,980 And The Mist is very by the pants, a lot of handheld 155 00:08:22,980 --> 00:08:27,202 and a lot of CG that's very realistic 156 00:08:27,289 --> 00:08:31,511 looking, especially considering the year that it came out. 157 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:33,121 At the very beginning of the movie, 158 00:08:33,208 --> 00:08:35,819 there is a woman who is like, I have to go find my family. 159 00:08:35,906 --> 00:08:36,516 I can't-- 160 00:08:36,603 --> 00:08:37,604 I can't stay here. 161 00:08:37,604 --> 00:08:38,779 I got to get home to my kids. 162 00:08:38,909 --> 00:08:40,128 [ominous music] 163 00:08:40,215 --> 00:08:41,869 And she leaves. 164 00:08:41,999 --> 00:08:44,959 And you just assume that these monsters just ate her right up. 165 00:08:45,046 --> 00:08:47,222 But instead they're in the car at the end, 166 00:08:47,222 --> 00:08:49,616 and they realize these monsters are everywhere. 167 00:08:49,616 --> 00:08:52,183 There's nothing they're going to be able to do. 168 00:08:52,270 --> 00:08:54,142 So he takes the gun. 169 00:08:54,142 --> 00:08:55,491 He kills everyone in the car. 170 00:08:55,578 --> 00:08:58,015 [gunshots] 171 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,804 And then he realizes there's no bullets 172 00:09:03,804 --> 00:09:04,935 left for him to kill himself. 173 00:09:04,935 --> 00:09:06,154 [screaming] 174 00:09:06,241 --> 00:09:07,547 [bangs] 175 00:09:07,634 --> 00:09:10,158 So he gets out of the car ready to sacrifice 176 00:09:10,158 --> 00:09:11,115 himself to the monsters-- 177 00:09:11,246 --> 00:09:15,816 [ominous music] 178 00:09:15,816 --> 00:09:18,514 only to have the military pull up at that exact moment 179 00:09:18,601 --> 00:09:21,430 with the woman who left in the opening. 180 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:22,344 She made it. 181 00:09:22,344 --> 00:09:23,998 She made it through the end. 182 00:09:24,085 --> 00:09:26,740 She had the best idea the whole time. 183 00:09:26,827 --> 00:09:30,047 And it is so dark. 184 00:09:33,790 --> 00:09:37,577 The ending of The Mist is such a powerful and ballsy 185 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:42,886 change to do because the novella has 186 00:09:42,886 --> 00:09:44,148 a completely different ending. 187 00:09:44,148 --> 00:09:45,149 They just keep going. 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,630 And there's some sort of hope, and 189 00:09:47,717 --> 00:09:50,198 Darabont was like, fuck hope. 190 00:09:50,285 --> 00:09:51,982 [chuckles] 191 00:09:51,982 --> 00:09:54,071 [screaming] 192 00:09:54,158 --> 00:09:56,900 To put your protagonist in that state in the end 193 00:09:56,987 --> 00:09:59,033 the movie there was probably the cruelest thing 194 00:09:59,033 --> 00:10:01,252 in the history of horror films. 195 00:10:01,339 --> 00:10:04,342 But it was honest. 196 00:10:04,342 --> 00:10:07,302 You don't have much faith in humanity, do you? 197 00:10:07,432 --> 00:10:11,480 None whatsoever. 198 00:10:11,567 --> 00:10:14,918 Gerald's Game was something I wanted to make for years. 199 00:10:15,005 --> 00:10:16,833 As soon as I read it, I thought this is going 200 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,487 to be a hard movie to make. 201 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:20,489 Nobody's going to want to make this movie 202 00:10:20,576 --> 00:10:23,579 because it's basically 90 minutes of a naked woman chained 203 00:10:23,666 --> 00:10:24,536 to a bed. 204 00:10:24,624 --> 00:10:26,843 And how do you make that happen? 205 00:10:26,930 --> 00:10:30,238 And if I couldn't do it, I'm glad that Mike Flanagan could 206 00:10:30,238 --> 00:10:34,677 because I just think he's one of the best guys out there. 207 00:10:34,677 --> 00:10:38,333 Gerald's Game was a feat of filmmaking. 208 00:10:38,333 --> 00:10:42,206 Jessie and Gerald go to this house to try to like 209 00:10:42,206 --> 00:10:43,643 spice up their marriage. 210 00:10:43,643 --> 00:10:47,734 And in doing so, Gerald handcuffs her to the bed. 211 00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:48,430 This is good. 212 00:10:48,430 --> 00:10:49,257 You'll like this. 213 00:10:49,387 --> 00:10:50,998 It's not working for her. 214 00:10:50,998 --> 00:10:52,564 Daddy's going to get what Daddy wants. 215 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:54,741 Fucking stop it! 216 00:10:54,828 --> 00:10:56,003 Uncuff me now. 217 00:10:56,090 --> 00:10:58,048 And he gets angry about this and starts 218 00:10:58,048 --> 00:10:59,963 talking about how badly their marriage is going 219 00:10:59,963 --> 00:11:02,226 and during that has a heart attack 220 00:11:02,313 --> 00:11:03,924 and falls on top of her dead. 221 00:11:04,011 --> 00:11:05,534 So now she's alone in this House-- 222 00:11:05,665 --> 00:11:07,101 Gerald 223 00:11:07,101 --> 00:11:08,711 BREA GRANT:--with her dead husband on top of her. 224 00:11:08,798 --> 00:11:10,278 Gerald. 225 00:11:10,278 --> 00:11:13,890 And the entire movie takes place with her handcuffed 226 00:11:14,021 --> 00:11:15,413 and trying to get out of these handcuffs-- 227 00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:16,414 No! 228 00:11:16,501 --> 00:11:18,155 Somebody help! 229 00:11:18,242 --> 00:11:19,809 BREA GRANT:--while her husband is taunting 230 00:11:19,896 --> 00:11:20,897 her from beyond the grave. 231 00:11:20,984 --> 00:11:22,507 You can pull to your wrists break, 232 00:11:22,507 --> 00:11:24,031 you're not getting out of those cuffs. 233 00:11:24,161 --> 00:11:26,598 He is dead, but yet sticks around 234 00:11:26,598 --> 00:11:27,904 because he is a shitty husband. 235 00:11:27,991 --> 00:11:28,644 [laughs] 236 00:11:28,731 --> 00:11:31,168 [classical music] 237 00:11:32,866 --> 00:11:35,912 Gerald's Game is probably one of the best 238 00:11:35,999 --> 00:11:38,654 adaptations of taking an unfilmable story 239 00:11:38,741 --> 00:11:40,177 and bringing it to screen. 240 00:11:40,264 --> 00:11:42,702 Mike Flanagan did an incredible job because in the book, 241 00:11:42,789 --> 00:11:45,226 the voices in her head are multiple characters. 242 00:11:45,313 --> 00:11:48,664 And narrowing that down to just one version of her talking 243 00:11:48,751 --> 00:11:50,144 to herself-- 244 00:11:50,274 --> 00:11:53,147 He put you in those handcuffs way before Gerald did. 245 00:11:53,234 --> 00:11:55,932 is a brilliant solution because otherwise you kind 246 00:11:56,063 --> 00:11:58,326 of get lost in the character drama, and that's not 247 00:11:58,326 --> 00:11:59,414 what it's about, right? 248 00:11:59,544 --> 00:12:01,024 Jesus. 249 00:12:01,111 --> 00:12:04,201 It's about the need to survive and distilling it down 250 00:12:04,288 --> 00:12:05,855 to that moment of survival-- 251 00:12:05,986 --> 00:12:07,901 The last thing I want is to have 252 00:12:08,031 --> 00:12:09,511 to take you to the emergency room 253 00:12:09,511 --> 00:12:12,079 and have your finger sewn back, 254 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:14,690 which then blows everything up like a nuclear bomb 255 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:16,518 as we're all sitting there with our hands 256 00:12:16,605 --> 00:12:19,782 over our eyes just not wanting to watch that degloving-- 257 00:12:19,869 --> 00:12:22,350 [moaning] 258 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,875 Gerald's Game is some of the only horror movie gore that has 259 00:12:25,875 --> 00:12:27,268 ever made me feel lightheaded. 260 00:12:27,355 --> 00:12:28,095 [ripping] 261 00:12:28,225 --> 00:12:29,661 [crying] 262 00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:32,708 The scene where she degloves herself 263 00:12:32,795 --> 00:12:35,319 to get out of the handcuffs, I genuinely 264 00:12:35,319 --> 00:12:37,321 felt nauseous and dizzy. 265 00:12:37,408 --> 00:12:38,932 And that just not happened to me. 266 00:12:39,019 --> 00:12:40,934 I watch horror movies for a living. 267 00:12:41,021 --> 00:12:45,068 But for some reason, that scene really got to me. 268 00:12:45,068 --> 00:12:45,808 It's disgusting. 269 00:12:45,939 --> 00:12:48,028 [crying] 270 00:12:49,725 --> 00:12:52,249 And Carla Gugino, chef's kiss. 271 00:12:52,336 --> 00:12:55,992 Carla Gugino is one of the most underappreciated 272 00:12:56,079 --> 00:12:58,212 actresses of our generation. 273 00:12:58,212 --> 00:13:02,825 She approached that part with such a relentless bravery. 274 00:13:02,825 --> 00:13:07,525 At every turn, there was a lack of vanity or a lack of fear. 275 00:13:07,656 --> 00:13:10,615 She just dove in and ripped herself apart. 276 00:13:10,702 --> 00:13:13,488 I mean, just to be handcuffed to a bed not even for three days, 277 00:13:13,488 --> 00:13:14,750 but for shooting days. 278 00:13:14,837 --> 00:13:19,711 I think it was 16 days in that position. 279 00:13:19,842 --> 00:13:22,062 So the physical demands of the role aside, 280 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:24,934 the emotional demands of that role playing both sides 281 00:13:25,021 --> 00:13:27,110 of the character and dealing with the trauma 282 00:13:27,197 --> 00:13:29,634 she was dealing with as the character, flawless. 283 00:13:29,721 --> 00:13:32,202 [suspenseful music] 284 00:13:35,205 --> 00:13:37,599 [rumbling] 285 00:13:47,783 --> 00:13:51,352 Girl, I don't have the balls to wear anything like that. 286 00:13:51,482 --> 00:13:52,919 Don't I wish. 287 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:53,876 Just give me a beer. 288 00:13:53,876 --> 00:13:56,748 [suspenseful music] 289 00:13:59,229 --> 00:14:01,275 Holy old Jesus! 290 00:14:08,282 --> 00:14:12,329 And now, may the Lord bless you and keep you. 291 00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:16,943 May the Lord make his face to shine upon you. 292 00:14:16,943 --> 00:14:20,860 So give us your report, Craig. 293 00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:24,472 Tell us how much money you made for us. 294 00:14:24,472 --> 00:14:25,865 I ain't taking the rap on this. 295 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:27,388 I locked this place up every night. 296 00:14:27,388 --> 00:14:29,520 It's not my fault if every pervert, weirdo-- 297 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,521 Don't talk to me. 298 00:14:30,521 --> 00:14:31,653 Go talk to someone in charge. 299 00:14:36,701 --> 00:14:39,704 [rumbling] 300 00:14:39,791 --> 00:14:43,099 On the day of my judgment when I stand before God 301 00:14:43,186 --> 00:14:48,539 and he asks me why did I kill one of his true miracles, 302 00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:50,367 what am I going to say? 303 00:14:50,454 --> 00:14:52,239 MICK GARRIS: When you're adapting Stephen King, 304 00:14:52,326 --> 00:14:54,894 you got to realize that the story is 305 00:14:54,981 --> 00:14:56,547 the most important thing and the people 306 00:14:56,547 --> 00:14:58,332 are the most important things. 307 00:14:58,419 --> 00:15:01,944 So many people just use it as a jumping off point. 308 00:15:02,031 --> 00:15:05,730 I ain't never seen me flick a show. 309 00:15:05,817 --> 00:15:09,256 But King's books and stories are very cinematic. 310 00:15:09,256 --> 00:15:11,606 Paul Sheldon: I guess it was kind of a miracle you finding me. 311 00:15:11,693 --> 00:15:13,651 No, it wasn't a miracle at all. 312 00:15:13,738 --> 00:15:15,479 In a way, I was following you. 313 00:15:15,479 --> 00:15:16,524 You were following me? 314 00:15:16,611 --> 00:15:18,134 Well, it wasn't any secret to me. 315 00:15:18,221 --> 00:15:20,571 You were staying at the Silver Creek seeing as how I'm 316 00:15:20,658 --> 00:15:22,530 your number one fan and all. 317 00:15:22,617 --> 00:15:23,661 Don't move now. 318 00:15:23,748 --> 00:15:24,706 I wouldn't want to hurt this neck. 319 00:15:28,666 --> 00:15:31,278 Misery feels like a really strong adaptation. 320 00:15:31,365 --> 00:15:34,759 It actually felt a lot like the book 321 00:15:34,846 --> 00:15:38,154 and like a lot of the best King adaptations. 322 00:15:38,241 --> 00:15:43,246 It also has the directors eye on it, stank on it. 323 00:15:43,333 --> 00:15:46,423 James Caan is driving along one day in this blizzard, 324 00:15:46,510 --> 00:15:47,381 and he gets in a wreck. 325 00:15:47,468 --> 00:15:48,904 [bangs] 326 00:15:48,991 --> 00:15:52,908 And thank God, Kathy Bates, Annie, she finds him. 327 00:15:52,995 --> 00:15:55,389 And she takes him back to her house. 328 00:15:55,476 --> 00:15:57,260 And she's going to nurse him back to health, 329 00:15:57,347 --> 00:16:00,133 but it turns out that she's also a big fan. 330 00:16:00,220 --> 00:16:01,395 How weird? 331 00:16:01,482 --> 00:16:04,354 Oh, Paul, I've read everything of yours. 332 00:16:04,354 --> 00:16:08,097 The misery novels, I know them all by heart, all eight of them. 333 00:16:08,184 --> 00:16:09,969 I don't think there's ever been a movie that 334 00:16:10,056 --> 00:16:13,233 sort of centered on a frumpy sort of character 335 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,365 like that becoming the main character 336 00:16:15,452 --> 00:16:16,627 and the killer and the film. 337 00:16:16,627 --> 00:16:19,282 It was really scary at the time. 338 00:16:19,369 --> 00:16:23,895 A character like Kathy Bates was always sort of like the MPC. 339 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:25,201 They were just someone in the background. 340 00:16:25,288 --> 00:16:26,942 Right. 341 00:16:26,942 --> 00:16:28,552 Misery really put that type of character in the foreground. 342 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:30,990 Kathy Bates was terrifying in that movie. 343 00:16:31,077 --> 00:16:32,382 They just cheated us. 344 00:16:32,469 --> 00:16:33,949 This isn't fair. 345 00:16:33,949 --> 00:16:37,997 He didn't get out of the Cockadoodie car. 346 00:16:38,084 --> 00:16:40,564 The performance that Kathy Bates gives, 347 00:16:40,564 --> 00:16:41,957 there's nothing like it. 348 00:16:42,044 --> 00:16:43,437 There's never been anything like it. 349 00:16:43,524 --> 00:16:45,004 There will never be anything like that 350 00:16:45,091 --> 00:16:47,180 in the pantheon of horror. 351 00:16:47,267 --> 00:16:49,182 She's so exquisite. 352 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:51,488 When you first came here, I only 353 00:16:51,575 --> 00:16:54,013 loved the writer part of Paul Sheldon, 354 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:56,145 but now I know I love the rest of him, too. 355 00:16:58,843 --> 00:17:00,715 I have this gun. 356 00:17:00,715 --> 00:17:02,586 [clicking] 357 00:17:02,673 --> 00:17:07,069 Sometimes I think about using it. 358 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:11,030 As a writer myself, the idea of being 359 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:15,034 held hostage by a superfan is already so terrifying. 360 00:17:15,121 --> 00:17:20,169 But wow, she is basically the portrait of the superfan 361 00:17:20,256 --> 00:17:21,736 you never want to meet. 362 00:17:21,823 --> 00:17:23,825 You did it. 363 00:17:23,912 --> 00:17:25,566 You murdered my misery. 364 00:17:25,653 --> 00:17:26,654 Hey. 365 00:17:26,741 --> 00:17:29,222 [clattering] 366 00:17:29,309 --> 00:17:32,181 She ends up having a say in his new manuscript. 367 00:17:32,181 --> 00:17:33,791 And her say is that she does not like it, 368 00:17:33,791 --> 00:17:35,402 and he needs to rewrite it. 369 00:17:35,402 --> 00:17:39,101 And it becomes this horrible fan versus creator movie. 370 00:17:39,188 --> 00:17:41,886 You're going to write a new novel, your greatest achievement 371 00:17:41,973 --> 00:17:45,803 ever Misery's Return. 372 00:17:45,890 --> 00:17:48,371 Misery's return? 373 00:17:48,458 --> 00:17:50,330 I know you didn't mean it when you killed her, 374 00:17:50,417 --> 00:17:51,766 and now you'll make it right. 375 00:17:51,853 --> 00:17:53,898 KATE SIEGEL: There's something about the marriage 376 00:17:53,985 --> 00:17:57,511 of the filmmaker and the source material in Misery 377 00:17:57,598 --> 00:18:00,775 that just radiates through your body. 378 00:18:00,862 --> 00:18:06,128 The slow burn of the obsession and the realization of what 379 00:18:06,128 --> 00:18:09,131 the author is going through, I mean, when she brings the sledge 380 00:18:09,218 --> 00:18:11,568 hammer out to smash his ankles, I don't think there's 381 00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:14,180 a person in the world who doesn't tense up. 382 00:18:14,267 --> 00:18:15,268 Kathy, please. 383 00:18:15,268 --> 00:18:17,052 [screaming] 384 00:18:17,052 --> 00:18:19,489 It's just a perfectly paced film. 385 00:18:19,576 --> 00:18:22,231 Almost done, just one more. 386 00:18:22,318 --> 00:18:25,408 In the novel, she chops his foot off. 387 00:18:25,495 --> 00:18:27,106 [screaming] 388 00:18:27,193 --> 00:18:30,848 And I think this was so much harder to watch. 389 00:18:30,935 --> 00:18:32,763 God, I love you. 390 00:18:37,899 --> 00:18:40,945 And Cujo, my God, I read the book in like one day. 391 00:18:41,032 --> 00:18:45,080 [suspenseful music] 392 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,128 And I think he wrote it in two or three. 393 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:50,912 What are you growling at? 394 00:18:50,999 --> 00:18:54,089 Such an intense movie, it's so brilliant because it 395 00:18:54,176 --> 00:18:55,786 doesn't need to go big. 396 00:18:55,786 --> 00:18:57,614 It's just the simplest thing. 397 00:18:57,701 --> 00:19:00,095 [growling] 398 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:05,666 I talk to writing students all the time about the brilliance 399 00:19:05,753 --> 00:19:09,409 of a story like Cujo, which you could just characterize 400 00:19:09,496 --> 00:19:12,586 as a mother and son trapped in a car 401 00:19:12,673 --> 00:19:14,762 while a dog is barking outside, right? 402 00:19:14,849 --> 00:19:16,024 [growling] 403 00:19:16,111 --> 00:19:18,983 [screaming] 404 00:19:19,070 --> 00:19:22,161 In the novel, Stephen King is a master of characterization. 405 00:19:22,248 --> 00:19:23,727 So you're in the car. 406 00:19:23,814 --> 00:19:25,381 You have no choice but to care. 407 00:19:25,468 --> 00:19:29,037 The film, you don't have that interiority, but what you do 408 00:19:29,124 --> 00:19:30,604 have is some really, really great 409 00:19:30,691 --> 00:19:32,301 performances, including a child actor 410 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:33,781 I used to watch on soap operas. 411 00:19:33,868 --> 00:19:37,088 [mumbling] 412 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,439 Oh, there's no monsters. 413 00:19:39,526 --> 00:19:41,876 I knew that kid from one of my favorite soap operas. 414 00:19:41,876 --> 00:19:45,053 So I knew he was a great actor, but not that great. 415 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:47,229 So he really is kind of the heart 416 00:19:47,316 --> 00:19:50,406 and soul of this horrible situation that is so mundane. 417 00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:52,800 [crying] 418 00:19:52,887 --> 00:19:55,063 [bangs] 419 00:19:55,150 --> 00:19:57,413 The car won't start. 420 00:19:57,500 --> 00:19:59,372 We've all been in that situation, 421 00:19:59,459 --> 00:20:00,982 but we haven't been in a situation 422 00:20:01,069 --> 00:20:03,114 where there's a rabid, really monstrous 423 00:20:03,114 --> 00:20:08,337 dog trying to get inside and trying to savage you. 424 00:20:08,424 --> 00:20:10,078 [screaming] 425 00:20:10,078 --> 00:20:13,037 [growling] 426 00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:18,956 That ending in the novel spoiler, if you haven't read it, 427 00:20:18,956 --> 00:20:20,088 the little boy dies. 428 00:20:20,175 --> 00:20:22,351 He's the cost of the mother's secrets 429 00:20:22,438 --> 00:20:24,571 and the mother's mistakes in some ways. 430 00:20:24,658 --> 00:20:28,749 And I wondered, are they going to do that in the movie version? 431 00:20:28,836 --> 00:20:33,057 Could we sit through a two-hour movie where the little boy dies? 432 00:20:33,144 --> 00:20:34,320 Well, absolutely not. 433 00:20:34,407 --> 00:20:37,236 [crying] 434 00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:39,716 Baby. 435 00:20:39,803 --> 00:20:41,675 So I'm not surprised they changed that ending one bit. 436 00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:45,069 [glass shattering] 437 00:20:49,552 --> 00:20:50,597 I hate to be that guy. 438 00:20:50,597 --> 00:20:51,859 There is this-- I do have this one 439 00:20:51,946 --> 00:20:55,819 tiny pet peeve about the fact that, you know, 440 00:20:55,906 --> 00:20:57,081 people say that dog was scary. 441 00:20:57,168 --> 00:20:58,561 It's just like Cujo. 442 00:20:58,648 --> 00:21:01,129 And the film is called Cujo, and everyone in the film 443 00:21:01,216 --> 00:21:02,391 calls the dog Cujo. 444 00:21:02,478 --> 00:21:04,872 [growling] 445 00:21:09,572 --> 00:21:13,228 In the book, it's made clear that the dog's name 446 00:21:13,315 --> 00:21:16,710 is actually pronounced Cujo, that it's 447 00:21:16,797 --> 00:21:18,886 a Spanish pronunciation. 448 00:21:18,973 --> 00:21:20,627 But I guess it's too late to fix that one. 449 00:21:20,627 --> 00:21:21,454 [growling] 450 00:21:21,541 --> 00:21:22,977 [gunshots] 451 00:21:22,977 --> 00:21:25,109 It's the tiniest little thing, but even 452 00:21:25,196 --> 00:21:26,589 my dad calls the dog Cujo. 453 00:21:26,676 --> 00:21:28,678 [ominous music] 454 00:21:28,765 --> 00:21:29,766 Cujo. 455 00:21:33,248 --> 00:21:36,599 Christine was one of the first ones I read. 456 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:40,516 And I remember it as a ghost story, as a possession story. 457 00:21:40,603 --> 00:21:43,606 That's an aspect that Carpenter completely dropped in the movie. 458 00:21:43,606 --> 00:21:49,873 He kind of changed the nature of the menace, and it works. 459 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,789 And it works partly because he builds Christine 460 00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:54,791 like she is a proper character. 461 00:21:54,878 --> 00:21:56,924 The very fact that I would say she instead of it 462 00:21:57,011 --> 00:22:00,623 instinctively makes you see that this is a person. 463 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:03,104 And he films her like a person. 464 00:22:03,191 --> 00:22:05,411 [screaming] 465 00:22:07,543 --> 00:22:12,896 It's a John Carpenter film, and it looks it. 466 00:22:12,983 --> 00:22:16,857 It is the most beautifully shot atmospheric 467 00:22:16,857 --> 00:22:18,206 of the Stephen King films. - Come on. 468 00:22:18,293 --> 00:22:18,989 Get it, man. 469 00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:25,387 Christine follows this nerdy student 470 00:22:25,474 --> 00:22:27,824 at this school, this social outcast who doesn't 471 00:22:27,911 --> 00:22:29,086 have a lot going for him. 472 00:22:29,173 --> 00:22:30,305 Stop the car. Stop the car. 473 00:22:30,392 --> 00:22:31,088 Stop the car. Go back. 474 00:22:31,175 --> 00:22:32,263 Go back. 475 00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:33,961 One day he's driving with his friend, 476 00:22:33,961 --> 00:22:39,967 and out of the corner of his eye spots this rusty junker 477 00:22:40,054 --> 00:22:42,535 out in the middle of the yard. 478 00:22:42,535 --> 00:22:44,101 It's the only thing he's ever wanted, 479 00:22:44,188 --> 00:22:45,842 and he's not going to be talked out of it. 480 00:22:45,929 --> 00:22:47,844 So he throws the money down immediately 481 00:22:47,931 --> 00:22:49,716 to purchase this vehicle. 482 00:22:49,803 --> 00:22:51,152 And that becomes his life. 483 00:22:51,239 --> 00:22:54,155 That becomes his passion. 484 00:22:54,155 --> 00:22:56,984 He restores this car to how we saw it come off the line 485 00:22:57,071 --> 00:22:57,811 at the beginning of the film. 486 00:23:01,597 --> 00:23:04,121 Everyone starts kind of looking at him 487 00:23:04,208 --> 00:23:05,688 and getting jealous of the car. 488 00:23:05,775 --> 00:23:08,648 The girl he's with starts getting jealous of the car. 489 00:23:08,735 --> 00:23:13,217 [ROBERT & JOHNNY, "WE BELONG TOGETHER"] You're mine 490 00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:21,051 And we belong together 491 00:23:21,138 --> 00:23:25,491 Yes we belong together 492 00:23:25,578 --> 00:23:29,016 These bullies that he had who had 493 00:23:29,103 --> 00:23:31,801 threatened his life before in this violent way try 494 00:23:31,888 --> 00:23:32,846 to take the car out. 495 00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:35,718 [bangs] 496 00:23:38,678 --> 00:23:39,940 It's a love story. 497 00:23:40,027 --> 00:23:41,942 It's a love story between a boy and his car. 498 00:23:42,029 --> 00:23:46,033 And it's a love story that has weird moments of, you know, 499 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:47,730 that moment where he says, OK, show me. 500 00:23:47,817 --> 00:23:49,558 And the car rebuilds itself. 501 00:23:49,558 --> 00:23:51,255 And he's just there watching. 502 00:23:51,342 --> 00:23:53,127 And even the lighting and the way it's filmed, 503 00:23:53,214 --> 00:23:55,346 it all looks like a girl stripping. 504 00:23:55,346 --> 00:23:58,001 It looks like something that's supposed to be teasing 505 00:23:58,088 --> 00:24:00,003 and a little bit sexual, which is 506 00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:04,007 such an interesting idea for a piece of junk essentially. 507 00:24:04,094 --> 00:24:05,835 [upbeat music] 508 00:24:05,922 --> 00:24:09,360 [engine roaring] 509 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:13,147 We watch the car, and these amazing shots 510 00:24:13,234 --> 00:24:16,890 get revenge against the people that attacked it. 511 00:24:16,977 --> 00:24:19,762 [screaming] 512 00:24:19,849 --> 00:24:22,809 [clattering] 513 00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:28,945 There's this incredible scene of the car after killing several 514 00:24:29,032 --> 00:24:30,904 of these bullies in this gas station, 515 00:24:30,991 --> 00:24:32,819 making the entire thing explode. 516 00:24:32,906 --> 00:24:35,604 And this huge plume of fire chases 517 00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:39,260 down the final leader of these bullies 518 00:24:39,347 --> 00:24:41,610 completely just in a blaze. 519 00:24:41,697 --> 00:24:44,918 And it's just this incredible, beautiful shot that 520 00:24:44,918 --> 00:24:46,659 looks like something out of like, 521 00:24:46,746 --> 00:24:51,315 you know, any slasher film of this terrifying monster 522 00:24:51,402 --> 00:24:55,015 coming after this potential victim, but it's a car. 523 00:24:55,102 --> 00:24:55,885 Please. 524 00:24:55,972 --> 00:24:58,801 [engine roaring] 525 00:24:58,888 --> 00:25:01,238 [crashing] 526 00:25:01,238 --> 00:25:03,806 It's played so straight that you 527 00:25:03,893 --> 00:25:08,985 kind of forget how outlandish the subject matter is. 528 00:25:09,072 --> 00:25:12,772 John Carpenter really puts us all into this. 529 00:25:12,859 --> 00:25:14,643 AXELLLE CAROLYN: I don't think that Carpenter 530 00:25:14,730 --> 00:25:17,167 was very happy with it at the end of the day. 531 00:25:17,254 --> 00:25:19,387 It's a little miracle that something 532 00:25:19,474 --> 00:25:23,173 so elegant for the subject matter 533 00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:25,741 would come out from a filmmaker who 534 00:25:25,741 --> 00:25:28,875 didn't have full confidence in what he was doing, I suppose. 535 00:25:28,962 --> 00:25:32,313 It's a real testimony to his technical abilities 536 00:25:32,313 --> 00:25:35,882 and to his instinct to find what's going 537 00:25:35,969 --> 00:25:36,926 to make it work on screen. 538 00:25:37,013 --> 00:25:39,668 [suspenseful music] 539 00:25:54,683 --> 00:25:56,990 I want you to feel this on my nose. 540 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:00,863 Why you look at? 541 00:26:08,828 --> 00:26:11,047 You're the one who looks like he could use a vacation, Doc. 542 00:26:16,836 --> 00:26:18,577 Well, you were having a bad dream. 543 00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:20,404 You must have been a real wowser by the sound. 544 00:26:29,762 --> 00:26:32,939 I'm in the mood for some music, '80s. 545 00:26:33,026 --> 00:26:33,896 I'll make that happen. 546 00:26:43,427 --> 00:26:44,951 You want me to sign it for you? 547 00:26:45,038 --> 00:26:45,908 No. 548 00:26:45,995 --> 00:26:47,083 I didn't like the ending. 549 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,915 [rumbling] 550 00:26:58,529 --> 00:27:00,619 TOM HOLLAND: When Stephen first appeared on the scene, 551 00:27:00,706 --> 00:27:02,055 horror was minuscule. 552 00:27:02,142 --> 00:27:05,580 [ominous music] 553 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:09,149 Stephen single-handedly popularized horror 554 00:27:09,236 --> 00:27:10,367 as America understands it. 555 00:27:10,454 --> 00:27:11,194 Bill. 556 00:27:11,281 --> 00:27:13,849 [ominous music] 557 00:27:13,936 --> 00:27:15,721 I will fear no evil. 558 00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:18,941 And he did it that way by writing about people like you 559 00:27:19,028 --> 00:27:22,292 and me, middle-class people, lower middle-class people, 560 00:27:22,379 --> 00:27:23,293 whatever, working people. 561 00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:30,779 And he made it real and made you feel like, oh my gosh, 562 00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:34,391 this could be happening to me. 563 00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:36,263 The meiosis is the Stephen King's 564 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:38,352 name blots out everybody else. 565 00:27:38,439 --> 00:27:42,617 The pluses of it are that there's some terrific material 566 00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:43,270 to choose from. 567 00:27:47,187 --> 00:27:49,189 I got offered Thinner. 568 00:27:49,276 --> 00:27:54,542 And Thinner is very odd in the sense 569 00:27:54,629 --> 00:27:56,718 that I thought the story was very-- 570 00:27:56,805 --> 00:27:58,938 was terrific and very solid. 571 00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:02,942 But there was something that was also humorous about it. 572 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:05,335 Usually when you're in a Stephen King story, 573 00:28:05,422 --> 00:28:07,860 you like your protagonist, like you're following them around. 574 00:28:07,947 --> 00:28:08,774 You feel for them. 575 00:28:08,861 --> 00:28:10,950 You want to side with them. 576 00:28:11,037 --> 00:28:13,343 They're-- they're somebody that you feel connected with. 577 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:15,781 Thinner, not so much. 578 00:28:15,868 --> 00:28:18,566 Just doing my job. 579 00:28:18,653 --> 00:28:22,483 Robert John Burke is the lead and is not playing 580 00:28:22,570 --> 00:28:25,747 it sympathetically at all. 581 00:28:25,834 --> 00:28:28,576 He starts out an absolute shithead. 582 00:28:28,663 --> 00:28:33,581 He's getting a blowjob from his wife and runs this woman over. 583 00:28:33,668 --> 00:28:35,931 [screaming] 584 00:28:36,018 --> 00:28:39,195 [crashes] 585 00:28:41,241 --> 00:28:43,373 And then they tried to, you know, 586 00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:46,725 kind of corrupt the court system so that he gets off. 587 00:28:46,812 --> 00:28:49,597 And then that's what enacts the Gypsy curse. 588 00:28:49,684 --> 00:28:50,859 Sir. 589 00:28:50,946 --> 00:28:52,948 In the film, of course, they do that thing 590 00:28:53,035 --> 00:28:55,298 Thinner where he rubs his face. 591 00:28:55,385 --> 00:28:57,561 Thinner. 592 00:28:57,648 --> 00:28:59,476 I will quote that with my friends all the time. 593 00:28:59,563 --> 00:29:01,740 Thinner. 594 00:29:01,827 --> 00:29:03,480 Why is he saying it? Does he have to say it? 595 00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:04,699 And does he have to rub his face? 596 00:29:04,699 --> 00:29:06,048 I don't know. 597 00:29:06,135 --> 00:29:10,096 He's been cursed to lose weight until he dies. 598 00:29:10,183 --> 00:29:11,619 I've lost 100 pounds. 599 00:29:11,706 --> 00:29:13,099 Before you know it, you'll be able to see your balls 600 00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:14,100 without using a mirror. 601 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,884 [laughter] 602 00:29:15,971 --> 00:29:17,973 You can eat as much as he wants it doesn't matter, 603 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:19,148 he's going to keep losing weight. 604 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:20,497 [laughs] 605 00:29:20,584 --> 00:29:22,935 That was one I saw when I was very young, 606 00:29:23,022 --> 00:29:27,069 and it was so scary to me. 607 00:29:27,156 --> 00:29:32,074 Seeing his body actually get thinner as a kid, 608 00:29:32,074 --> 00:29:32,814 I was like, how? 609 00:29:32,901 --> 00:29:33,902 How? 610 00:29:33,902 --> 00:29:35,425 Like, how are they doing this? 611 00:29:35,512 --> 00:29:37,645 I just didn't understand special effects at that point. 612 00:29:37,732 --> 00:29:38,951 And I was like, I-- 613 00:29:39,038 --> 00:29:39,908 this is so unsettling. 614 00:29:39,995 --> 00:29:42,258 [laughs] I'm not a fan. 615 00:29:42,345 --> 00:29:46,654 I'm being erased. 616 00:29:46,654 --> 00:29:48,787 Instead of accepting this curse 617 00:29:48,874 --> 00:29:52,094 or going back and apologizing, he takes violence. 618 00:29:52,181 --> 00:29:54,531 He chooses violence and he goes, and he attacks them. 619 00:29:54,618 --> 00:29:58,927 I curse you and everybody I see 620 00:29:59,014 --> 00:30:02,148 by the light of this fire, the curse of the White man 621 00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:03,366 from town. 622 00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:05,586 And then ultimately under duress, they 623 00:30:05,586 --> 00:30:06,935 tell him how to fix the curse. 624 00:30:06,935 --> 00:30:10,983 You got to give it to this pie. 625 00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:21,036 Then you give this pie with the curse inside to somebody else. 626 00:30:22,516 --> 00:30:24,779 And what happens in the book and I filmed it 627 00:30:24,779 --> 00:30:27,564 and I thought it was great was that Billy 628 00:30:27,564 --> 00:30:29,740 realized his wife was being unfaithful with him 629 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:30,480 to the doctor. 630 00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:39,272 And he's transferred the curse from himself into the pie. 631 00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:40,795 And he puts it down in the kitchen 632 00:30:40,795 --> 00:30:42,449 knowing when she gets up in the morning, 633 00:30:42,449 --> 00:30:43,972 she's going to have a piece. 634 00:30:44,059 --> 00:30:46,018 And then she'll have the curse. 635 00:30:46,105 --> 00:30:49,630 And so he'll have his vengeance on her for cheating on him. 636 00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:51,545 And then he gets up in the morning-- 637 00:30:51,632 --> 00:30:53,677 I'm talking about the book now, gets up in the morning 638 00:30:53,677 --> 00:30:55,897 and he goes downstairs. 639 00:30:55,984 --> 00:30:59,205 And my God, a piece of the pie is gone. 640 00:30:59,292 --> 00:31:00,249 And he's thrilled. 641 00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:01,729 And he turns around. 642 00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:04,340 And there's the only person he really loves in life, 643 00:31:04,427 --> 00:31:06,038 his 17-year-old daughter. 644 00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:11,086 And she's saying, oh, dad, the strawberry pie was delicious. 645 00:31:11,173 --> 00:31:12,566 I love you. 646 00:31:12,653 --> 00:31:15,003 And he is destroyed. 647 00:31:15,090 --> 00:31:19,965 And now he has to do something to save his daughter. 648 00:31:20,052 --> 00:31:23,794 And the only way he can do anything is take the curse back. 649 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,014 And so he eats the strawberry pie. 650 00:31:29,061 --> 00:31:32,847 And the audience absolutely hated it. 651 00:31:32,934 --> 00:31:35,371 They hated that ending. 652 00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:38,374 So I finagled it a little bit to try to give them a little bit 653 00:31:38,461 --> 00:31:39,985 of audience satisfaction. 654 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:43,466 He invites the doctor in to have a piece of pie in the morning 655 00:31:43,553 --> 00:31:45,207 when he shows up. 656 00:31:45,294 --> 00:31:46,426 As matter of fact, I was just going to dig into a big slice 657 00:31:46,513 --> 00:31:47,688 of this breakfast pie. 658 00:31:47,775 --> 00:31:49,211 And I think maybe that made the audience 659 00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:50,604 feel a little bit better. 660 00:31:50,691 --> 00:31:54,434 But I felt like I was a whore to the audience. 661 00:31:54,521 --> 00:31:56,088 But I had spelling entertainment, 662 00:31:56,175 --> 00:31:58,612 and I had Paramount standing in my back saying, 663 00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:00,570 do something, do something, do something. 664 00:32:00,657 --> 00:32:03,399 So that's what I did. 665 00:32:05,532 --> 00:32:08,709 Wow, those are your cats. There's a lot of them. 666 00:32:08,796 --> 00:32:11,886 They're strays, but we'll get rid of them. 667 00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:14,454 The first time I worked with Stephen King 668 00:32:14,541 --> 00:32:16,935 was on Sleepwalkers. 669 00:32:17,022 --> 00:32:20,286 It was his first produced original Screenplay. 670 00:32:20,373 --> 00:32:23,942 Sleepwalkers is one of the wackier Stephen King plots. 671 00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:29,034 And it's one of my favorite Stephen King adaptations. 672 00:32:29,121 --> 00:32:32,254 It takes place in a very, very classic Stephen 673 00:32:32,341 --> 00:32:35,518 King town high Americana. 674 00:32:39,044 --> 00:32:42,656 It's an underrated classic most known for a scene 675 00:32:42,743 --> 00:32:44,440 that comes early on in the picture. 676 00:32:44,527 --> 00:32:47,269 You can't hear us. 677 00:32:47,356 --> 00:32:50,969 We have a young boy who comes home and sees his mom. 678 00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:53,536 And the mom seems very close and very touchy. 679 00:32:53,623 --> 00:32:54,755 And end up full-on kissing. 680 00:32:57,888 --> 00:33:00,935 And the reactions that it gets every single time that you watch 681 00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:04,112 that with friends is priceless. 682 00:33:04,199 --> 00:33:08,769 Sleepwalkers are where the vampire myth came from. 683 00:33:08,856 --> 00:33:11,163 They turn into cat people. 684 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:15,602 And they feed on the essence of virgin females. 685 00:33:15,689 --> 00:33:18,213 [ominous music] 686 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:21,216 The way you feed that essence, you suck it 687 00:33:21,303 --> 00:33:24,132 out of the female virgin human. 688 00:33:24,219 --> 00:33:30,399 And you feed it to the female Sleepwalker sexually. 689 00:33:30,486 --> 00:33:36,101 So you emit that essence into the Sleepwalker. 690 00:33:36,101 --> 00:33:38,277 Pull over, motherfucker. 691 00:33:38,364 --> 00:33:40,670 Everything about this movie is so bizarre. 692 00:33:40,757 --> 00:33:44,413 The makeup that very well known scene where he's in the car 693 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:46,937 and he turns into, you see a flash of what the cat looks 694 00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,461 like. 695 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:50,593 And it's this demented bizarre, grinning creature. 696 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,291 What the fuck? 697 00:33:52,378 --> 00:33:54,989 It almost makes me think of House, the Japanese movie-- 698 00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:56,686 [meows] 699 00:33:58,558 --> 00:34:01,169 and those kind of grinning cat in Japanese lore. 700 00:34:01,256 --> 00:34:03,867 [meows] 701 00:34:08,872 --> 00:34:11,136 MICK GARRIS: They're also deathly afraid 702 00:34:11,223 --> 00:34:13,355 of the fatal scratch of cats. 703 00:34:13,442 --> 00:34:15,836 Stop looking at me, you fucking cat. 704 00:34:15,923 --> 00:34:20,188 And cats can sense them and seek them out. 705 00:34:20,275 --> 00:34:22,669 This is both a horror movie for cats 706 00:34:22,756 --> 00:34:25,628 and a cathartic revenge film for them. 707 00:34:25,715 --> 00:34:26,760 Get that motherfucker. 708 00:34:26,847 --> 00:34:29,197 [laughs] All right. 709 00:34:29,284 --> 00:34:30,590 Good boy, Clovis. 710 00:34:30,677 --> 00:34:34,507 The town Sheriff had a beloved pet cat Clovis. 711 00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:36,117 Everything's going to be all right. 712 00:34:36,204 --> 00:34:39,120 [screaming] 713 00:34:39,207 --> 00:34:42,297 The demon teenager killed the town Sheriff. 714 00:34:42,384 --> 00:34:43,994 [meows] 715 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:47,433 So Clovis has had it with these people who came into the town, 716 00:34:47,433 --> 00:34:49,783 colonized the town, killed his parent, 717 00:34:49,870 --> 00:34:53,221 and now they're going after Madchen Amick who he also likes. 718 00:34:53,308 --> 00:34:54,353 [screaming] 719 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,355 [meows] 720 00:34:56,355 --> 00:34:58,531 So he knows that they must be destroyed, 721 00:34:58,618 --> 00:34:59,923 but he can't do it on his own. 722 00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:03,275 [meows] 723 00:35:03,362 --> 00:35:06,669 Luckily, all the cats in the town are sick of this. 724 00:35:06,756 --> 00:35:10,282 So like, a good union organizer, he gets them all together. 725 00:35:10,369 --> 00:35:13,154 And he says, we have to go get these demon fucks. 726 00:35:13,241 --> 00:35:15,330 And in the climax of the film, they 727 00:35:15,417 --> 00:35:17,724 march up to the house where the demons live, 728 00:35:17,724 --> 00:35:19,073 and they attack them. 729 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,336 [meows] 730 00:35:23,469 --> 00:35:25,732 There were 126 cats in Sleepwalkers. 731 00:35:25,819 --> 00:35:27,951 [meows] 732 00:35:30,606 --> 00:35:35,133 You've heard the term herding cats? 733 00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:38,136 That's very much what wrangling cats on the sleepwalkers set 734 00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:40,747 was like, although they were very well trained. 735 00:35:40,834 --> 00:35:41,574 [meows] 736 00:35:41,661 --> 00:35:46,666 [gasps] Clovis. 737 00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:49,625 It's the kind of story I guess you could only make if Stephen 738 00:35:49,712 --> 00:35:52,454 King's name was on it because it gave people confidence that it 739 00:35:52,541 --> 00:35:53,455 would be something scary. 740 00:35:53,455 --> 00:35:54,804 And then it turned out to be-- 741 00:35:54,891 --> 00:35:57,067 I would never say that Sleepwalkers is scary, 742 00:35:57,155 --> 00:36:00,419 but it's very strange and unique and interesting. 743 00:36:00,506 --> 00:36:02,769 And dealing with bizarre themes and kind 744 00:36:02,856 --> 00:36:04,597 of beautiful at the same time. 745 00:36:04,684 --> 00:36:07,077 It's just you and me, Clovis. 746 00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:08,253 Just you and me. 747 00:36:12,692 --> 00:36:16,086 Silver Bullet is such a highly entertaining watch. 748 00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:18,741 [ominous music] 749 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:21,918 I recognize that there's flaws to it, 750 00:36:22,005 --> 00:36:24,182 but I'm really sensitive to that because I really 751 00:36:24,269 --> 00:36:25,270 do love the movie so much. 752 00:36:28,621 --> 00:36:31,493 Silver Bullet's made from Cycle of the Werewolf, which 753 00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:33,756 was actually an illustrated book that Stephen 754 00:36:33,843 --> 00:36:35,410 King did with Bernie Wrightson. 755 00:36:35,497 --> 00:36:38,674 Bernie wrightson is the greatest horror 756 00:36:38,761 --> 00:36:42,939 illustrator that's ever existed, as far as I'm concerned. 757 00:36:43,026 --> 00:36:44,158 I love werewolves. 758 00:36:44,158 --> 00:36:46,334 And something I love about werewolves 759 00:36:46,421 --> 00:36:48,031 is that oftentimes, it's a mystery. 760 00:36:48,118 --> 00:36:50,773 [growling] 761 00:36:50,860 --> 00:36:54,560 And Silver Bullet's very much a horror mystery. 762 00:36:54,647 --> 00:36:57,432 It takes that idea of every time there's a full moon, 763 00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:59,434 the wolf man is going to show up. 764 00:36:59,434 --> 00:37:02,307 [screaming] 765 00:37:04,483 --> 00:37:06,093 And then little by little, we're going to have clues as to who 766 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:07,137 it could be in the village. 767 00:37:09,488 --> 00:37:10,793 Hey. 768 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,056 It's mad man Marty in the Silver Bullet. 769 00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:16,408 I loved Silver Bullet when I was a kid because it's 770 00:37:16,495 --> 00:37:18,366 ultimately a kid's tale. 771 00:37:18,453 --> 00:37:22,152 It's Stephen King's kind of classic kids on bikes battling 772 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,067 the evil in their small town, except it's 773 00:37:24,154 --> 00:37:25,417 a kid in a wheelchair. 774 00:37:25,504 --> 00:37:27,375 You always take his side because he's crippled. 775 00:37:27,462 --> 00:37:29,290 Well, it's not my fault he's crippled. 776 00:37:29,377 --> 00:37:31,553 You just want to be quiet or I'm going to smack you now. 777 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,294 I mean it. 778 00:37:33,294 --> 00:37:35,035 TRACEY SALISBURY: It's about that brother-sister relationship 779 00:37:35,122 --> 00:37:37,124 where you get on each other's nerves 780 00:37:37,211 --> 00:37:39,300 and where adults won't believe you, 781 00:37:39,387 --> 00:37:40,997 but kids believe each other. 782 00:37:40,997 --> 00:37:42,999 And that's what's always important in horror films 783 00:37:43,086 --> 00:37:44,697 that kids believe each other. 784 00:37:44,784 --> 00:37:46,960 And there's nothing scary in horror films that bump off kids. 785 00:37:47,047 --> 00:37:49,832 Has anybody in here seen my son? 786 00:37:49,919 --> 00:37:51,573 Brady. 787 00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:55,969 [classical music] 788 00:37:56,056 --> 00:37:58,014 Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with Thee. 789 00:37:58,014 --> 00:37:59,668 You know, because when you bump 790 00:37:59,755 --> 00:38:01,888 there's no rules because, you know, everybody could get it. 791 00:38:01,975 --> 00:38:04,760 [ominous music] 792 00:38:07,154 --> 00:38:08,503 TIM KASHER: So you have a werewolf 793 00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:10,810 literally attacking a handicapped child, 794 00:38:10,897 --> 00:38:13,987 like young teenager. 795 00:38:14,074 --> 00:38:16,337 I mean that's horrific in and of itself. 796 00:38:16,424 --> 00:38:18,687 That's just my little brother gets me so mad sometimes. 797 00:38:18,774 --> 00:38:20,385 AXELLLE CAROLYN: I love the villain, too. 798 00:38:20,472 --> 00:38:24,954 Well, Jane, brothers sometimes do that. 799 00:38:25,041 --> 00:38:27,305 It's perhaps the person you expect nowadays, 800 00:38:27,392 --> 00:38:29,437 but at the time, I felt like it was a surprise. 801 00:38:29,524 --> 00:38:31,309 [screaming] 802 00:38:31,396 --> 00:38:33,615 [growling] 803 00:38:36,226 --> 00:38:38,011 The movie gets schlocky, and I recognize that. 804 00:38:38,098 --> 00:38:39,708 But don't we love that, too? 805 00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:43,756 Don't we just love it when things get schlocky sometimes? 806 00:38:43,843 --> 00:38:46,106 It's one of the best Stephen King adaptations to me 807 00:38:46,193 --> 00:38:48,108 because it captures the essentials 808 00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:49,588 of what he likes to do. 809 00:38:49,675 --> 00:38:52,330 He loves kids living their life. 810 00:38:52,417 --> 00:38:54,680 He loves these small communities that 811 00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:58,292 are living kind of peacefully and have this entity come in. 812 00:38:58,379 --> 00:38:59,641 And then how do they react? 813 00:38:59,641 --> 00:39:01,382 How do they lose their humanity? 814 00:39:01,469 --> 00:39:03,341 Or how do they retain being a community? 815 00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:06,213 [growling] 816 00:39:06,213 --> 00:39:07,649 [gunshots] 817 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:14,395 Holy jumped-up Jesus palomino! 818 00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:18,747 You know, in the end, he's always on the side of the kids. 819 00:39:18,834 --> 00:39:21,663 And then the monsters can sometimes be sympathetic. 820 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:23,143 [growling] 821 00:39:23,230 --> 00:39:25,101 [screaming] 822 00:39:25,188 --> 00:39:27,495 [ominous music] 823 00:39:38,288 --> 00:39:40,465 MIKE [VOICEOVER]: Do you know why I can stay in your spooky 824 00:39:40,465 --> 00:39:41,683 old room, Mr. Olin? 825 00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:44,251 Because I know the ghoulies and ghosties 826 00:39:44,251 --> 00:39:47,254 and long-legged beasties don't exist. 827 00:39:47,341 --> 00:39:48,255 Hey! 828 00:39:48,342 --> 00:39:53,695 [yells] 829 00:39:53,782 --> 00:39:56,045 [screaming] 830 00:40:01,007 --> 00:40:03,313 Will you help me, Delores? 831 00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:12,061 [screaming] 832 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,999 Bring him the blood of the Outlander. 833 00:40:37,086 --> 00:40:38,174 All: Praise God. 834 00:40:38,261 --> 00:40:39,437 Praise the Lord. 835 00:40:39,524 --> 00:40:40,960 Praise God. 836 00:40:41,047 --> 00:40:43,397 Many people have tried to adapt Stephen King novels. 837 00:40:47,009 --> 00:40:49,577 And people always ask like, what is the reason 838 00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:51,187 some work and some don't? 839 00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:54,974 And I don't really have a good answer because you think, 840 00:40:55,061 --> 00:40:57,672 oh, let's just hew very closely to the novel. 841 00:40:57,672 --> 00:40:58,543 [screaming] 842 00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:59,457 Check! 843 00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:05,811 But then you think about the changes that 844 00:41:05,898 --> 00:41:09,379 are made to these books when they 845 00:41:09,379 --> 00:41:15,429 make it to the silver screen, they are successful. 846 00:41:15,516 --> 00:41:18,911 The Dead Zone is an example of an adaptation 847 00:41:18,998 --> 00:41:23,350 of a Stephen King novel where so much is stripped out. 848 00:41:23,437 --> 00:41:26,614 And it's leaner, it's clearer, and it's 849 00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:30,270 more compelling because you're not changing 850 00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:31,924 perspectives all the time. 851 00:41:32,011 --> 00:41:34,448 There's less digression. 852 00:41:34,535 --> 00:41:38,017 That's just the nature of filmmaking versus literature. 853 00:41:38,017 --> 00:41:40,062 Literature is all about the digression. 854 00:41:40,149 --> 00:41:42,456 And filmmaking is all about getting 855 00:41:42,543 --> 00:41:45,677 to the next exciting moment. 856 00:41:45,764 --> 00:41:47,330 So when you have a great filmmaker, 857 00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:48,941 like a David Cronenberg, they know 858 00:41:48,941 --> 00:41:50,159 how to make a movie out of it. 859 00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:51,944 And the vision there was something missing. 860 00:41:52,031 --> 00:41:54,424 It was something I couldn't see. 861 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:55,251 How do you mean? 862 00:41:55,338 --> 00:41:56,514 I don't know. 863 00:41:56,601 --> 00:42:01,301 It was like, a blank spot, a dead zone. 864 00:42:01,388 --> 00:42:04,957 The Dead Zone doesn't have the signature body horror 865 00:42:05,044 --> 00:42:09,265 of a Cronenberg, but it does feature a lot of very 866 00:42:09,352 --> 00:42:12,442 cozy-looking sweaters being worn by Christopher Walken, 867 00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:14,053 which is kind of why I like it. 868 00:42:14,140 --> 00:42:18,057 There's something very wintry and nice about this movie, 869 00:42:18,144 --> 00:42:21,713 even though it does deal with a possible inevitable 870 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,670 nuclear holocaust. 871 00:42:22,757 --> 00:42:25,412 [ominous music] 872 00:42:25,499 --> 00:42:27,719 The Dead Zone is a Stephen King 873 00:42:27,806 --> 00:42:31,418 adaptation about Johnny Smith played by Christopher Walken. 874 00:42:31,505 --> 00:42:33,463 He's just a regular guy. 875 00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:37,380 He's happily in a relationship, gets into a car accident, 876 00:42:37,467 --> 00:42:41,254 goes into a coma, wakes up, and now he has psychic abilities. 877 00:42:41,341 --> 00:42:42,211 [screaming] 878 00:42:42,298 --> 00:42:45,301 [rumbling] 879 00:42:45,388 --> 00:42:46,825 Baby. 880 00:42:46,912 --> 00:42:49,305 Because that's what happens when you go into a coma 881 00:42:49,392 --> 00:42:50,655 is you get super powers. 882 00:42:50,742 --> 00:42:53,092 And he can see things before they happen. 883 00:42:53,179 --> 00:42:57,444 He has a premonition about bad things happening. 884 00:42:57,531 --> 00:42:59,707 [clattering] 885 00:42:59,794 --> 00:43:02,884 The ice is going to break. 886 00:43:02,971 --> 00:43:06,235 So it's that cost of having second sight 887 00:43:06,322 --> 00:43:08,498 of having lost everything. 888 00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:11,284 He loses the love of his life. 889 00:43:11,371 --> 00:43:14,722 He's debilitated by this accident. 890 00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:18,770 And he's saddled with knowing things he shouldn't know. 891 00:43:18,857 --> 00:43:20,859 Johnny is brought in by the police 892 00:43:20,859 --> 00:43:23,122 to find this serial killer. 893 00:43:23,209 --> 00:43:26,255 [suspenseful music] 894 00:43:29,128 --> 00:43:32,827 And then the third part of the movie, the end of the movie, 895 00:43:32,827 --> 00:43:35,090 he has a premonition of the end of the world. 896 00:43:35,177 --> 00:43:35,961 GREG: Hey. 897 00:43:36,048 --> 00:43:37,005 How are you? 898 00:43:37,005 --> 00:43:37,658 Good to see you. 899 00:43:37,745 --> 00:43:38,659 Hey. 900 00:43:38,746 --> 00:43:40,313 Thanks very much for coming. 901 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,752 He sees Martin Sheen's future where he is this cartoon 902 00:43:44,839 --> 00:43:47,407 villain president who has the suitcase 903 00:43:47,407 --> 00:43:49,452 with the nuclear button in it. 904 00:43:49,539 --> 00:43:50,715 Do it, Joe. 905 00:43:50,802 --> 00:43:55,284 And it's just so maniacal and over the top. 906 00:43:55,371 --> 00:43:57,025 I think that's something I like about it 907 00:43:57,025 --> 00:44:00,246 is it almost feels like a weird satire of politics 908 00:44:00,246 --> 00:44:01,856 and political imagery. 909 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,774 He has a choice to make. 910 00:44:06,861 --> 00:44:09,081 Is he going to allow this to happen? 911 00:44:09,168 --> 00:44:13,520 Or is he going to assassinate a candidate for the Senate? 912 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,696 [cheering] 913 00:44:15,783 --> 00:44:18,133 It's a movie about duty in a way. 914 00:44:18,220 --> 00:44:21,093 What do you do when you have power? 915 00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:23,182 There's a lot of that in King's work. 916 00:44:23,269 --> 00:44:25,750 It's what do you do with power, and how do you wield it? 917 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:28,143 How do you choose not to or choose to use it? 918 00:44:31,277 --> 00:44:34,976 He chooses to sacrifice himself for the greater good-- 919 00:44:35,063 --> 00:44:37,675 [gunshots] 920 00:44:39,851 --> 00:44:42,027 which is the most heroic thing you can do. 921 00:44:42,114 --> 00:44:44,420 [bangs] 922 00:44:44,507 --> 00:44:48,381 But this is not really a movie about heroism necessarily. 923 00:44:48,468 --> 00:44:50,992 It's a movie about a curse. 924 00:44:50,992 --> 00:44:52,254 Who are you, you son of a bitch? 925 00:44:52,341 --> 00:44:53,603 Who sent you? 926 00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:56,955 This poor man is cursed with this knowledge, 927 00:44:57,042 --> 00:45:00,175 with this understanding. 928 00:45:00,262 --> 00:45:02,351 [gunshots] 929 00:45:02,438 --> 00:45:07,487 Telekinesis thought to be the ability 930 00:45:07,487 --> 00:45:15,060 to move or to cause changes in objects by force of the mind. 931 00:45:15,147 --> 00:45:17,323 [glass shattering] 932 00:45:18,977 --> 00:45:22,067 I think Carrie is the most authentic 933 00:45:22,154 --> 00:45:25,679 to King in terms of the transposition of the book 934 00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:26,593 to the film. 935 00:45:26,593 --> 00:45:29,074 [classical music] 936 00:45:29,161 --> 00:45:31,772 De Palma's Adaptation of Carrie 937 00:45:31,859 --> 00:45:34,819 shows someone that has a true respect for the genre 938 00:45:34,906 --> 00:45:37,038 and the source material. 939 00:45:37,038 --> 00:45:40,476 Oftentimes, filmmakers will approach something like horror 940 00:45:40,563 --> 00:45:45,438 as campy or soapy or something to kind of push limits with. 941 00:45:45,438 --> 00:45:46,134 Creepy Carrie. 942 00:45:46,221 --> 00:45:47,092 Creepy Carrie. 943 00:45:47,179 --> 00:45:49,572 Ha, ha, ha. 944 00:45:49,572 --> 00:45:52,053 But De Palma clearly respected 945 00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:53,446 the character and the story. 946 00:45:53,533 --> 00:45:54,969 And you see that in the filmmaking. 947 00:45:59,017 --> 00:46:00,279 Hi, Carrie. 948 00:46:00,366 --> 00:46:03,935 I love that lush opening theme where the camera's 949 00:46:04,022 --> 00:46:05,284 going through the showers. 950 00:46:05,371 --> 00:46:07,982 And, you know, Carrie's having a moment of just 951 00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:09,897 relaxing in the hot shower. 952 00:46:09,984 --> 00:46:13,379 And it's just kind of this beautiful dream-like music. 953 00:46:13,466 --> 00:46:16,338 [classical music] 954 00:46:19,515 --> 00:46:21,953 Then she has her period, and she doesn't know what's happening. 955 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,911 And she becomes terrified. 956 00:46:23,998 --> 00:46:24,738 It's so brutal. 957 00:46:24,825 --> 00:46:30,135 [murmurs] 958 00:46:30,222 --> 00:46:33,225 It's the understanding that a woman can bleed for five days 959 00:46:33,312 --> 00:46:35,227 every month and not die. 960 00:46:35,314 --> 00:46:36,881 We all accept that as reality. 961 00:46:36,968 --> 00:46:40,841 But when you consider it, that's magical. 962 00:46:40,841 --> 00:46:41,711 That's horrific. 963 00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:43,017 Help me! 964 00:46:43,104 --> 00:46:44,279 Help me! 965 00:46:44,366 --> 00:46:47,195 That was a very interesting point of view 966 00:46:47,282 --> 00:46:49,937 through de Palma's lens about how terrifying female sexuality 967 00:46:50,024 --> 00:46:50,982 can be. 968 00:46:51,069 --> 00:46:52,984 Can I talk to you? 969 00:46:53,071 --> 00:46:54,028 Right now? 970 00:46:54,115 --> 00:46:54,899 It's real important. 971 00:46:54,986 --> 00:46:58,163 [wheezing] All right. 972 00:46:58,250 --> 00:47:01,166 The women in Carrie, the young women, 973 00:47:01,253 --> 00:47:03,951 not only come into this place of power with their sexuality, 974 00:47:04,038 --> 00:47:06,954 but their brains come online with manipulation 975 00:47:07,041 --> 00:47:13,831 and using men as tools for the cruelty and the power. 976 00:47:13,918 --> 00:47:17,747 It's kind of a flip of what you encounter a lot in the world. 977 00:47:17,835 --> 00:47:19,445 And when you become an adult, you're 978 00:47:19,532 --> 00:47:22,535 very familiar with the trope of men manipulating young women. 979 00:47:22,535 --> 00:47:25,755 But this kind of off-putting manipulation 980 00:47:25,755 --> 00:47:30,891 of young men by women is disturbing in a unique way. 981 00:47:30,978 --> 00:47:34,852 Billy, I hate Carrie White. 982 00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:35,591 Who? 983 00:47:35,678 --> 00:47:37,637 Carrie is a nasty story. 984 00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:39,900 It's a heartbreaking story. 985 00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:44,209 It's so unfair, but that's what makes it such a lasting horror 986 00:47:44,296 --> 00:47:46,820 movie and why there have been so many remakes because you want 987 00:47:46,907 --> 00:47:49,649 to just put that lightning in a bottle 988 00:47:49,736 --> 00:47:55,002 that unfairness of life when you haven't had a shot and you 989 00:47:55,089 --> 00:47:57,396 haven't been popular and people have misunderstood you 990 00:47:57,396 --> 00:47:58,832 and you finally have a chance to shine. 991 00:47:58,919 --> 00:48:01,008 [ominous music] 992 00:48:03,271 --> 00:48:05,317 And you end up with a bunch of pig blood on your head. 993 00:48:05,404 --> 00:48:07,319 [ominous music] 994 00:48:11,714 --> 00:48:16,154 It's satisfying on one level to see her light up that place. 995 00:48:16,241 --> 00:48:18,286 I never get tired of that scene. 996 00:48:18,373 --> 00:48:19,505 But it's such cost. 997 00:48:19,592 --> 00:48:22,377 [ominous music] 998 00:48:29,428 --> 00:48:32,997 I saw the movie, and then I read the book. 999 00:48:33,084 --> 00:48:34,389 And the book is so good. 1000 00:48:34,389 --> 00:48:39,090 I just didn't realize like how, like bad ass 1001 00:48:39,177 --> 00:48:42,397 Carrie was because in the movie, she 1002 00:48:42,397 --> 00:48:44,573 like does the whole gym thing. 1003 00:48:44,573 --> 00:48:47,533 But in the book, she's like messed 1004 00:48:47,620 --> 00:48:50,101 up the whole town, like she just-- she leaves the gym. 1005 00:48:50,188 --> 00:48:52,233 And she's like going just walking home, 1006 00:48:52,233 --> 00:48:53,582 just being like blowing everything 1007 00:48:53,669 --> 00:48:55,019 up, burning everything down. 1008 00:48:55,106 --> 00:48:57,195 And there's just so much more details in the book. 1009 00:48:59,545 --> 00:49:01,329 DAVID DASTMALCHIAN: He's such a personal writer. 1010 00:49:01,416 --> 00:49:03,070 There's so much of him in his work. 1011 00:49:03,157 --> 00:49:07,945 It's very hard to transpose that to the screen well. 1012 00:49:08,032 --> 00:49:09,859 So you live in a Stephen King book 1013 00:49:09,947 --> 00:49:12,471 in a way you'll never live in a Stephen King movie, 1014 00:49:12,471 --> 00:49:13,733 in my opinion. 1015 00:49:13,820 --> 00:49:15,909 I just have not had that experience yet. 1016 00:49:17,780 --> 00:49:20,783 [ominous music] 1017 00:49:22,089 --> 00:49:26,050 The Shining is probably the most revered 1018 00:49:26,050 --> 00:49:29,227 King adaptation while also being the adaptation 1019 00:49:29,227 --> 00:49:30,010 he likes the least. 1020 00:49:33,535 --> 00:49:35,407 The Shining is a complete reboot of the book. 1021 00:49:35,494 --> 00:49:37,409 I mean, it's a complete departure. 1022 00:49:37,409 --> 00:49:38,714 It just works. 1023 00:49:38,845 --> 00:49:40,238 And it's great, but it's not the book at all. 1024 00:49:40,325 --> 00:49:43,284 [ominous music] 1025 00:49:45,069 --> 00:49:46,984 I almost don't think of it as a Stephen King movie. 1026 00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:49,377 It's just it's so Stanley Kubrick and Jack 1027 00:49:49,464 --> 00:49:52,467 Nicholson's movie in that way. 1028 00:49:52,467 --> 00:49:56,689 It changed a lot of King's intentions. 1029 00:49:56,689 --> 00:50:00,432 Jack is going to take care of the overlook for us this winter. 1030 00:50:00,432 --> 00:50:02,564 Jack Torrance is kind of him. 1031 00:50:02,695 --> 00:50:04,349 And he related to Jack. 1032 00:50:04,349 --> 00:50:08,048 And Jack was an avatar for his fear 1033 00:50:08,048 --> 00:50:12,574 of being a bad parent, of being an alcoholic, being violent 1034 00:50:12,574 --> 00:50:14,620 or, you know, unhinged-- 1035 00:50:14,707 --> 00:50:16,839 [screaming] 1036 00:50:19,059 --> 00:50:21,105 and the solitary nature of being a writer. 1037 00:50:24,325 --> 00:50:28,286 But the movie turns Jack into a slasher 1038 00:50:28,416 --> 00:50:29,939 villain in a lot of ways. 1039 00:50:30,070 --> 00:50:32,333 He's not sympathetic even at the beginning. 1040 00:50:32,420 --> 00:50:34,248 ALEJANDRO BRUGUES: I'm not one of those directors 1041 00:50:34,335 --> 00:50:37,860 that dies over Stanley Kubrick. 1042 00:50:37,947 --> 00:50:41,299 I see The Shining, and I see all the bad things 1043 00:50:41,386 --> 00:50:42,735 Stephen King says. 1044 00:50:42,865 --> 00:50:45,085 There's no transition in that character. 1045 00:50:45,172 --> 00:50:47,435 It's only Jack Torrance, Jack Nicholson with his psycho 1046 00:50:47,435 --> 00:50:48,436 face there. 1047 00:50:48,523 --> 00:50:49,655 Here's Johnny. 1048 00:50:49,742 --> 00:50:51,178 [screams] 1049 00:50:51,178 --> 00:50:52,962 And you're like, well, who thought about putting 1050 00:50:53,093 --> 00:50:54,268 this guy in this place? 1051 00:50:54,355 --> 00:50:56,923 But it just-- it's just great. 1052 00:50:56,923 --> 00:50:57,967 It's great filmmaking. 1053 00:50:58,098 --> 00:51:00,840 [ominous music] 1054 00:51:03,364 --> 00:51:05,932 Jack gets this power. 1055 00:51:06,019 --> 00:51:08,500 He starts to feel powerful through the course of the film. 1056 00:51:08,587 --> 00:51:11,459 And that leads him to become a killer 1057 00:51:11,546 --> 00:51:13,548 trying to kill his own family. 1058 00:51:13,635 --> 00:51:15,855 Have you ever thought for a single solitary moment 1059 00:51:15,942 --> 00:51:17,944 about my responsibilities to my employers? 1060 00:51:17,944 --> 00:51:20,642 This corrosive self-hatred, I think, 1061 00:51:20,729 --> 00:51:22,775 is at the core of the film. 1062 00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:25,082 I think it's probably also in the book a little bit, too. 1063 00:51:25,169 --> 00:51:26,692 It's why do we lash out? 1064 00:51:26,822 --> 00:51:28,172 Why do we become violent? 1065 00:51:28,259 --> 00:51:30,435 Why is Jack violent towards his son? 1066 00:51:30,565 --> 00:51:32,698 Why is he violent towards his wife? 1067 00:51:32,828 --> 00:51:34,482 Why is he not successful? 1068 00:51:34,482 --> 00:51:35,570 Why is he miserable? 1069 00:51:35,657 --> 00:51:37,224 Why are all of these things? 1070 00:51:37,355 --> 00:51:42,534 And it comes back to not having any faith or belief in yourself. 1071 00:51:42,534 --> 00:51:45,319 [suspenseful music] 1072 00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:49,715 The Shining has really transcended from just being 1073 00:51:49,715 --> 00:51:54,720 a Stephen King adaptation and become more of like a canon 1074 00:51:54,807 --> 00:51:56,983 of classic film cinema. 1075 00:51:56,983 --> 00:51:59,377 It is considered to be art in itself. 1076 00:51:59,464 --> 00:52:01,074 It is something that is revered, that 1077 00:52:01,074 --> 00:52:05,122 is taught now in film classes. 1078 00:52:05,209 --> 00:52:08,037 TANANARIVE DUE: There's so much iconic imagery-- the elevator 1079 00:52:08,037 --> 00:52:09,822 doors with the blood pouring out, 1080 00:52:09,822 --> 00:52:14,305 the twin girls standing in the hallway, the bar. 1081 00:52:14,435 --> 00:52:16,133 Everything looked exactly the way 1082 00:52:16,263 --> 00:52:18,831 I pictured it, except there was this one 1083 00:52:18,918 --> 00:52:21,660 major change from the novel. 1084 00:52:21,747 --> 00:52:27,535 And that is Dick Hallorann who was the Black character who 1085 00:52:27,535 --> 00:52:32,018 survived the novel and literally ends up with an axe in his chest 1086 00:52:32,018 --> 00:52:33,585 as soon as he walks through the door. 1087 00:52:33,672 --> 00:52:36,892 Now from a story standpoint, I get it. 1088 00:52:36,892 --> 00:52:39,895 It's like you want to show this is a dangerous situation. 1089 00:52:39,982 --> 00:52:41,593 You want to surprise the viewer. 1090 00:52:41,593 --> 00:52:44,117 Especially if you read the book, you weren't expecting that. 1091 00:52:44,204 --> 00:52:47,294 And it also raises the stakes for Danny and his mom. 1092 00:52:47,381 --> 00:52:51,777 But it's such a tired trope that sacrificial negro. 1093 00:52:51,907 --> 00:52:56,608 And to take Dick Hallorann and Scatman Crothers who's 1094 00:52:56,695 --> 00:53:00,220 such a legend and lose him that way, 1095 00:53:00,307 --> 00:53:03,397 that's just one thing that just really, really bothers me. 1096 00:53:03,397 --> 00:53:07,227 And I'm so, so glad that Mike Flanagan corrected 1097 00:53:07,314 --> 00:53:11,188 that when he made Doctor Sleep. 1098 00:53:11,275 --> 00:53:16,758 The overlook it was always just pictures to me. 1099 00:53:16,845 --> 00:53:20,109 But I didn't shine like you. 1100 00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,938 Nobody shines like you. 1101 00:53:23,025 --> 00:53:26,768 Yes, Doctor Sleep, the beautiful child of two 1102 00:53:26,855 --> 00:53:27,639 divorced parents. 1103 00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:34,863 I'm thinking about my dad. 1104 00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:37,344 TANANARIVE DUE: I was initially surprised at how I was really 1105 00:53:37,431 --> 00:53:40,347 drawn in to this sequel to see what happened 1106 00:53:40,434 --> 00:53:44,438 to Danny as an older man, how the trauma has 1107 00:53:44,525 --> 00:53:46,440 sort of gone through his life. 1108 00:53:46,571 --> 00:53:49,878 That theme of alcoholism is always coming up, 1109 00:53:49,878 --> 00:53:52,664 the alcoholism of Danny's father and the first movie 1110 00:53:52,751 --> 00:53:55,188 and now it's sort of that unhappy curse 1111 00:53:55,188 --> 00:53:57,538 that the son is still carrying. 1112 00:53:57,669 --> 00:54:01,847 Danny, you can't get away. 1113 00:54:01,977 --> 00:54:05,981 There's no more extreme trauma than having your father chase 1114 00:54:06,112 --> 00:54:08,897 you and your mother around with an axe like poor Dan 1115 00:54:08,984 --> 00:54:11,857 did when he was a child. 1116 00:54:11,944 --> 00:54:14,642 So now he's grown, and he is trying so hard 1117 00:54:14,773 --> 00:54:17,297 to rid himself of the psychic infestation 1118 00:54:17,384 --> 00:54:18,472 that has taken over his mind. 1119 00:54:18,472 --> 00:54:21,388 [screaming] 1120 00:54:28,613 --> 00:54:31,616 If he could just cut through the noise, 1121 00:54:31,616 --> 00:54:34,662 maybe he could help end this needless suffering 1122 00:54:34,749 --> 00:54:37,535 that is happening at the hands of these terrifying people. 1123 00:54:40,625 --> 00:54:42,496 Well, hi, there. 1124 00:54:42,583 --> 00:54:46,065 Doctor Sleep, I think, is at least as good as the book. 1125 00:54:46,152 --> 00:54:48,415 The book wasn't what people expected. 1126 00:54:48,502 --> 00:54:53,159 You know, you expect a really claustrophobic 1127 00:54:53,246 --> 00:54:55,117 ghost story, like The Shining. 1128 00:54:55,204 --> 00:54:59,557 You expect it to be The Shining 2, and it's not. 1129 00:54:59,687 --> 00:55:03,691 With Doctor Sleep, it becomes a sprawling story that 1130 00:55:03,778 --> 00:55:07,434 involves a lot more people. 1131 00:55:07,521 --> 00:55:11,090 I think Mike Flanagan when he fused the Stephen King 1132 00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:15,529 vision and the Kubrick vision, it was walking a razor 1133 00:55:15,529 --> 00:55:17,139 wire between two things. 1134 00:55:17,139 --> 00:55:20,795 And Mike somehow got to a place where both things lived 1135 00:55:20,795 --> 00:55:23,189 in harmony not only simultaneously, 1136 00:55:23,276 --> 00:55:24,321 but they elevated each other. 1137 00:55:27,628 --> 00:55:30,022 If you read the novel, they don't go back to The Overlook. 1138 00:55:30,109 --> 00:55:31,806 The Overlook's burned down. 1139 00:55:31,893 --> 00:55:35,549 And so I think audiences would have been rioting 1140 00:55:35,636 --> 00:55:37,246 if the overlook wasn't there. 1141 00:55:37,246 --> 00:55:39,553 And if you go to The Overlook, obviously you have 1142 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,163 to go to Kubrick's Overlook. 1143 00:55:41,250 --> 00:55:44,341 And so threading that needle took great skill. 1144 00:55:48,693 --> 00:55:51,957 For someone to take the source material that 1145 00:55:52,044 --> 00:55:53,741 comes from Stephen King and then bring 1146 00:55:53,828 --> 00:55:56,353 it into the cinematic realm-- 1147 00:55:56,483 --> 00:55:59,486 Go. 1148 00:55:59,617 --> 00:56:02,097 DAVID DASTMALCHIAN:--requires artists of the caliber 1149 00:56:02,097 --> 00:56:08,147 of the Flanagans who can understand tone, theme, 1150 00:56:08,234 --> 00:56:10,976 understand the spirit of the story, 1151 00:56:11,106 --> 00:56:15,546 and know that sometimes breaking it loose of the world in which 1152 00:56:15,633 --> 00:56:18,592 it was constructed within the narrative of the book 1153 00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:22,030 is going to be necessary as well. 1154 00:56:24,903 --> 00:56:28,385 TRACEY SALISBURY: From The Shining to the Dead Zone, 1155 00:56:28,515 --> 00:56:30,474 bad things happen to good people. 1156 00:56:30,474 --> 00:56:34,521 And they have to react to it a particular way. 1157 00:56:34,521 --> 00:56:38,133 And in the end it may be unfair, but that's how it works out. 1158 00:56:41,006 --> 00:56:44,226 And it's always a darkness to him. 1159 00:56:44,226 --> 00:56:46,490 There's something that might be out there. 1160 00:56:46,620 --> 00:56:49,493 And if you leave it to chance, you might find out. 1161 00:56:49,580 --> 00:56:50,972 And that's Stephen King in a nutshell. 1162 00:56:51,059 --> 00:56:53,714 [ominous music] 1163 00:56:56,456 --> 00:57:00,329 JOE HILL: I asked my dad once if he was scared of AI. 1164 00:57:00,329 --> 00:57:03,681 I said, you know, what if people start using AI to pump out 1165 00:57:03,681 --> 00:57:05,073 bad Stephen King imitations? 1166 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,466 He said, "People have been pumping out bad Stephen 1167 00:57:06,553 --> 00:57:07,859 King adaptations for 40 years. 1168 00:57:07,859 --> 00:57:09,121 I haven't let it bother me yet." 1169 00:57:09,121 --> 00:57:12,429 [suspenseful music] 1170 00:57:14,474 --> 00:57:17,434 [rumbling] 1171 00:57:32,971 --> 00:57:35,234 [screaming] 1172 00:57:38,803 --> 00:57:43,111 [gasps] 1173 00:57:43,111 --> 00:57:47,072 [snarling] 1174 00:57:52,207 --> 00:57:54,209 The ice is going to break. 1175 00:57:58,170 --> 00:58:00,955 [screaming] 1176 00:58:09,137 --> 00:58:12,706 This is what you're looking for? 1177 00:58:12,706 --> 00:58:14,621 [screaming] 1178 00:58:19,234 --> 00:58:20,888 Great party, isn't it? 1179 00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:25,153 [suspenseful music] 1180 00:58:51,832 --> 00:58:52,616 Thinner. 1181 00:58:52,703 --> 00:58:54,618 [ominous music] 88678

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