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♪ "Aw, I don't want to...you,
you can't even sing!" ♪
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ODB: This Ol' Dirty Bastard,
man, you know what I'm saying?
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I ain't doin' no...
You know what I'm saying?
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Everything that I just spoke
on this is some real...
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He said, "I'm Ol' Dirty
Bastard." He's telling you
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who the...he is from the door.
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♪ I'm the one-man army, Ason
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♪ I never been tooken out,
I keep MC's looking out ♪
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♪ I'll drop signs
like Cosby dropping babies ♪
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He is in the great tradition
of Black entertainers
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like Rudy Ray Moore,
Redd Foxx, Richard Pryor,
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and rappers like
Biz Markie, Flava Flav,
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Fernando Jr.: ODB is a founding
member of the Wu-Tang Clan.
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The rest of the clan
kind of looked at him
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in a way for leadership.
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Ghostface: Out of the whole
group, he was the soul.
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And when he left,
it was a big loss for us.
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Big, big, big, big, big,
big, big.
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[ Shouting ]
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Dirty was the energy
to everything we got started.
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♪ Me and Mariah go back
like babies with pacifiers ♪
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♪ Old Dirt Dog's no liar
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Carey: Hearing him,
it was a griminess.
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And the fact that he was singing
the way he was singing,
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ODB was the natural person --
the best person.
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It's a fun record.
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Him being a part of my life
changed my life.
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He was festive. He was fun.
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Dash: He was the crazy one.
He was the wild card,
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but with a lot of swag.
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He was the one that gave no...
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We would sit down
and we'd be like,
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"Yo, you changed."
He'd be like, "You...right."
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He would admit it.
He'd go, "Yeah,
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you...right I'm changing."
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Suddenly he had all this
newfound money, fame, attention,
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and the media
doesn't give you time to adjust.
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Reporter: Rapper ODB
is in the news again,
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this time facing
shoplifting charges.
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Russell Jones,
known to rap fans as ODB,
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was arraigned today
in Los Angeles.
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Ross:
We get to live vicariously
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by watching these celebrities
behave badly.
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Slowly but surely,
he became somebody else,
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and he started living
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out Ol' Dirty Bastard
more than Unique Ason.
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If y'all see Dirty on stage
too long, that...drunk.
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We all watch a car crash,
right? I don't think
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you can blame society.
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You can blame the media,
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I think, for perpetually
promoting these images.
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Funeral services are planned
for Thursday
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for Russell Jones,
the hip-hop artist known as ODB.
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ODB: Ol' Dirty Bastard,
that's just, like, a job.
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You know what I mean?
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My children,
they know me as "Dad."
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Fernando Jr:
Russell Jones, the man,
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was someone who really loved
his kids and his wife.
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Icelene:
"Daddy, Daddy." That's it.
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That's all we called him.
I didn't call him Unique.
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I didn't call him Ason.
I didn't call him Russell.
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I didn't call him ODB,
Ol' Dirty Bastard.
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It was just "daddy" to me.
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Icelene: What's up?
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Icelene: My husband, Unique,
he gave me a camcorder.
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Once I got it in my hands,
it was a wrap.
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You can't see anything?
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Icelene:
Yeah, I can see you now.
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I was everywhere with that
camcorder, recording everything.
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[ Children cheering, laughing ]
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Every day is ODB, ODB, ODB,
Russell Jones,
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Ol' Dirty Bastard,
is reliving his life
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and his death
over and over and over again.
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♪
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[ Crowd shouting ]
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♪♪
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♪
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Man: I wanna know where you
from, you know what I'm saying?
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Are you from New York?
Are you from...?
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ODB:
I'm from Brooklyn, man.
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The only way you can flex
in Brooklyn
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is going to the zoo,
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because you can't make no money
without going to Brooklyn Zoo.
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You can't sell no drugs
without going to Brooklyn Zoo.
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You can't do nothin'.
You can't nothin'...
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Nothin'!
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[ Siren wailing ]
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Fernando Jr.: In the late '60s,
when Russell Jones was born,
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it was a tough time
for Black America then.
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At the same time that blacks
were fighting for
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and somewhat securing rights,
they were being killed.
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Martin Luther King,
Malcolm X, Medgar Evers --
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all three of those men
were assassinated.
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It was just a very messy,
chaotic time.
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Ramsey: We were living
in the Brownsville projects.
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A lot of gangs
infiltrated different blocks.
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You were always faced
with getting mugged,
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coming from school, you know,
getting your pockets picked.
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It got so bad that there was
a murder in our building.
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After that had happened,
my father said,
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"You know, we're going to move
to a better place."
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And we ended up moving
to Linden Plaza.
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Moving to Linden Plaza
had a whole different energy.
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It was like a fantasy for us.
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It was idyllic, very quiet,
beautiful.
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It was like heaven.
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We got to bicycle
and go to the pools
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that were in different parts
of the complex.
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Icelene: Linden Plaza is
a little bit more uppity-up
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than the surrounding projects
around us.
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We lived up on a mountain is --
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that's what they called
Plaza, a mountain.
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[ Laughs ]
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Haskins: Their mom wore wigs
back then,
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so we used to dress up
in her wigs and her clothes.
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She always had beautiful,
beautiful clothes.
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Jenkins: Everybody was
at the Jones' house.
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That was the spot.
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I'd be there more than
I'd be at my house.
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RZA: You know,
we grew up together
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from the age of six,
you know what I mean?
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Running around.
He's my blood cousin.
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His house was the house
I would go and hear music at
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you know what I mean?
His family had the biggest
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record collection,
you know what I mean?
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So I would go over to his house,
and hear all these different
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musics, and I think those --
that that influenced me,
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you know what I mean?
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Ramsey: My cousin, RZA,
would come over to our house,
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stay over there
for like a couple of days.
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It was -- It was a place of
solace.
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♪♪
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ODB: My cousin and GZA comes
and brings me outside
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to a block party.
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And when I get
to the block party,
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the DJ throws
on a couple of break beats.
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You know what I mean?
He started rapping
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like a ♪ dip-dip-dah,
so-socialize ♪
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And, yo,
I was blown out my mind.
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Hip-hop was so new
and fresh for us.
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We got into the artists
like Fat Boys and Kurtis Blow.
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Jimmy Spicer lived in
Linden Plaza in Building Five.
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We started making our own tapes.
I had my father buy me a mixer
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and my two turntables and
Casio keyboard, drum machine.
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I remember we were all
in the room -- it was RZA,
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GZA, my brother, Russell,
and I.
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My brother was watching
on the sidelines
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and seeing how exciting it was.
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Russell wanted to rap,
and RZA influenced Russell.
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RZA: He was my student, first of
all, you know what I mean?
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but he was one of the most
powerful students that I've had.
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The first time I met ODB was,
you know,
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back in my neighborhood,
Park Hill projects.
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I had to be about 12 years old.
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He was just a hip-hop head.
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You know, I seen it in him.
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Rap helped him, like, open up,
and his personality
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started to come out more.
He was becoming more outgoing.
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He was always seemingly
getting into trouble.
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Raekwon: Dirty was
a professional thief,
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him and me.
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He would go to Macy's
and he would boost clothes.
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Raekwon: He always would get in
the...and it was like
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we was doing it for fun
because we knew how to do it.
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Ramsey: He would get caught.
The security would call
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our house and says, "Uh,
can we speak to Mr. Jones?"
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And they would tell him,
"Hey, we got your son down here.
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He's been caught shoplifting."
My father says, "Keep him,"
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and hang up the phone.
[ Laughs ]
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There was discipline.
My father just got tired of it.
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I mean, he would -- he would
actually confront my brother,
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and he was tired of going down
to those department stores
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and getting my brother out.
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To me, you know what I'm saying,
I deal with the science
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of the Black man is God,
you know what I'm saying?
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So -- So it goes even deeper
now.
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Oh, man, I can't really
get deep into that right now.
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Reporter: I understand, though.
You have your religion and...
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No, it's not a religion.
It's a way of life.
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It's my culture.
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Ramsey: My cousin, Popa Wu,
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he was the one
that indoctrinated Russell
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into the 5% Nation.
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Popa Wu was the one that
instilled it and enforced it
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in all of them.
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It helped to instill discipline,
confidence in themselves,
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because at that time,
Black men needed that.
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The 5% Nation, the Nation of
Gods and Earth, started in 1963
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when Clarence 13X actually left
Mosque Number Seven in Harlem,
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when Malcolm X was the minister.
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Fernando Jr.: One of the main
tenants of the Five Percenters,
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was that the original man
who was the Black man
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was God in the flesh.
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That was a pretty radical
thought at the time --
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to believe the Black man is God.
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Everlasting: Of course,
there's mysteries and things
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that might be great
that we don't know about,
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but as far as things
that can be seen,
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heard, and explained,
it's me.
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Life: Basically what it is
is self-empowerment.
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We don't believe in anything
up above, anything down below.
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Everything that we have
we got to do for ourself.
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Russell changed his name
to Ason Unique.
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Fernando Jr.:
Ason Unique --
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that was his righteous name.
It was his Five Percenter name.
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You don't
just take a Five Percenter name.
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You got to earn it.
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You have to memorize these
word for word --
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So there's a lot
of discipline involved.
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Ramsey: He was mischievous,
but when he was Unique,
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he was much more scholarly.
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He was all about learning
the lessons, the mathematics.
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So it was like
two different personalities.
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♪
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Icelene: He was an exciting
person to know.
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He was lots of fun,
lots of love.
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I know I seen it all.
And that was a blessing,
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to experience all of him.
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Elnora: We gave her
a big 16th birthday party.
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I guess he met him there --
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skinny guy
with a broken tooth.
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And I'm looking at him.
I'm like, "Oh, my God, trouble."
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[ Laughs ]
Yeah, yeah.
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I closed the door in his face
because he says that,
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you know, I invited him there,
and I know I didn't.
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Two weeks later,
my friend had a birthday party,
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another Sweet 16,
and he came in there
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and I was hiding from him,
because I'm like,
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"Oh, my gosh, that's the guy
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that I slammed the door
in his face."
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But then he came and found me,
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and we started dancing
and stuff like that.
237
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He just told me his name,
Unique.
238
00:10:58,614 --> 00:11:01,573
He kept coming around
and wanting to see me
239
00:11:01,704 --> 00:11:04,185
and nobody never
showed interest like that.
240
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♪
241
00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:09,930
Me and your father used to
come here all the time.
242
00:11:10,017 --> 00:11:12,323
This was like the times
when we were falling in love.
243
00:11:12,410 --> 00:11:15,196
What was the breakdance?
They was doing "Ason,"
244
00:11:15,326 --> 00:11:17,111
like this,
going all down to the ground.
245
00:11:17,241 --> 00:11:18,808
That's the Ason?
Yeah.
246
00:11:18,895 --> 00:11:20,157
He used to be dancing.
I ain't doing it right,
247
00:11:20,244 --> 00:11:21,898
but he used to be
getting down.
248
00:11:21,985 --> 00:11:23,639
And everybody would just be
trying to do the Ason.
249
00:11:23,770 --> 00:11:25,510
Icelene: He started talking to
me about the sun, moon,
250
00:11:25,641 --> 00:11:29,993
and stars, and he told me I was
going to have a different name.
251
00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,126
He said, "Your name
can't be Tracy anymore.
252
00:11:32,213 --> 00:11:34,781
Your name is gonna
be Shaquita...
in the name of Allah."
253
00:11:34,868 --> 00:11:37,131
And I'm like,
"Um... [ Laughs ]
254
00:11:37,218 --> 00:11:38,872
What are you talking about?"
255
00:11:39,046 --> 00:11:41,788
Her name was Icelene Pernell.
256
00:11:41,875 --> 00:11:47,663
To me, I didn't really care
for him, but she loved him, so.
257
00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:49,709
I'm not going to say
too much about him, eh.
258
00:11:49,796 --> 00:11:54,452
♪♪
259
00:11:54,539 --> 00:11:59,022
One dream we always spoke about
is me and him making it big.
260
00:11:59,153 --> 00:12:01,329
And we always knew, after
we moved from Linden Plaza,
261
00:12:01,503 --> 00:12:03,287
never to move
into a project.
262
00:12:03,418 --> 00:12:05,159
You sort of get stuck
into the projects
263
00:12:05,289 --> 00:12:08,205
and within a square,
you got your shopping center,
264
00:12:08,379 --> 00:12:09,424
you got your check-cashing
place,
265
00:12:09,511 --> 00:12:11,034
you got your liquor store.
266
00:12:11,121 --> 00:12:13,428
You don't need to go outside.
267
00:12:13,558 --> 00:12:16,344
We wanted to get out of that.
268
00:12:16,474 --> 00:12:18,520
And he was always talking
about his music career
269
00:12:18,650 --> 00:12:20,261
and what he wanted to do.
270
00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:21,784
I believed that he was
going to make it one day
271
00:12:21,871 --> 00:12:23,743
because I know
he had something special.
272
00:12:23,917 --> 00:12:26,920
♪
273
00:12:33,578 --> 00:12:34,884
A little. Come on, baby.
Pump it up.
274
00:12:35,015 --> 00:12:36,407
'Cause we got something live
for you now.
275
00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:37,713
Come on!
Yo, yo, I got it.
276
00:12:37,844 --> 00:12:39,628
Give it to me!
Give it to me!
277
00:12:39,802 --> 00:12:42,109
♪ This is a lesson
that makes you feel fine ♪
278
00:12:42,152 --> 00:12:45,112
♪ Kinda ease your nerves
and relax your mind ♪
279
00:12:45,242 --> 00:12:48,593
♪ I said don't try to use
no hypnotic spell, she said ♪
280
00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:51,858
♪ "Be my assistant,
I'd show rather tell" ♪
281
00:12:51,988 --> 00:12:54,425
Icelene: He was battling
from when I first met him.
282
00:12:54,556 --> 00:12:56,950
He would go and battle people,
and he would always win.
283
00:12:57,037 --> 00:12:59,691
The GZA taught the RZA.
The RZA taught me.
284
00:12:59,735 --> 00:13:01,781
And, you know,
we've been doing this for years.
285
00:13:11,138 --> 00:13:12,530
Woman: Okay.
286
00:13:12,661 --> 00:13:15,795
Around 1981,
RZA, GZA, and my brother
287
00:13:15,969 --> 00:13:18,406
put together a crew called
the All In Together Now crew.
288
00:13:18,536 --> 00:13:21,409
GZA: All In Together Now crew.
What? What? Who?
289
00:13:21,496 --> 00:13:25,369
Used to run around, battle,
do rap things up, represent.
290
00:13:25,543 --> 00:13:27,154
And it all started from there.
291
00:13:27,284 --> 00:13:28,938
He used to go out all the time
and rap
292
00:13:29,025 --> 00:13:30,766
and used to be around each other
all the time
293
00:13:30,853 --> 00:13:32,507
and back and forth
each of their houses.
294
00:13:32,637 --> 00:13:34,335
And he has to pushing
real, real hard.
295
00:13:41,037 --> 00:13:45,215
One, two, three. Huh.
[ Beatboxing ]
296
00:13:45,346 --> 00:13:49,654
That's when ODB used to call
himself "The Rap Professor."
297
00:13:49,741 --> 00:13:55,356
He was a scientifical,
hip-hop, junkie rhymer.
298
00:13:55,486 --> 00:13:56,966
And they were doing they thing.
299
00:13:57,053 --> 00:13:58,968
And, you know, you could tell
300
00:13:59,099 --> 00:14:02,058
that them three was on a mission
to make a mark in the game.
301
00:14:02,102 --> 00:14:03,494
One, two, one, two.
302
00:14:03,581 --> 00:14:05,235
This how we do it
from Brooklyn.
303
00:14:05,322 --> 00:14:07,150
[ Beatboxing ]
304
00:14:07,237 --> 00:14:09,109
Aw, yeah,
that sounds kind of funky.
305
00:14:09,196 --> 00:14:10,850
♪ Ow
306
00:14:17,552 --> 00:14:20,685
We was actually doing
every mother...thing
307
00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:22,078
which way but loose
go get a deal.
308
00:14:22,252 --> 00:14:23,514
Man: Yeah.You know what I'm sayin'?
309
00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:25,212
Man: Ghostface Killah.
Take one.
310
00:14:25,342 --> 00:14:28,955
[ Clears throat ]
The way me and ODB met
311
00:14:29,085 --> 00:14:30,260
was through RZA.
312
00:14:30,347 --> 00:14:31,914
I'm up at RZA house.
313
00:14:32,088 --> 00:14:34,569
I'm eating a pastrami
and cheese sandwich.
314
00:14:34,656 --> 00:14:37,354
And he come to me
on the terrace...
315
00:14:37,398 --> 00:14:41,141
He just asked me like, "Yo.
Let me get a piece of that."
316
00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:43,839
Dirt was -- He was like
one of them guys that'd be like,
317
00:14:43,970 --> 00:14:46,973
"Yo, that's -- Yo, God.
That was the best...sandwich
318
00:14:47,103 --> 00:14:48,975
I ever had in my life.
...than my babies."
319
00:14:49,062 --> 00:14:50,890
And this, that, and the third.
320
00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:52,543
From there,
it just opened up a door.
321
00:14:52,630 --> 00:14:56,765
It was like,
"Yo, I like this dude."
322
00:14:56,852 --> 00:14:59,942
Ramsey: After being in it
for almost like 15 years,
323
00:15:00,029 --> 00:15:03,990
my mother got evicted
with my brothers and sisters.
324
00:15:04,077 --> 00:15:06,993
It felt like the world
was coming apart at the time.
325
00:15:07,123 --> 00:15:09,082
Aisha: My stepmother
moved in to the house
326
00:15:09,212 --> 00:15:11,084
that her mom had
on Putnam Avenue.
327
00:15:19,048 --> 00:15:21,659
When Icelene got pregnant
with Taniqua,
328
00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:24,619
my brother was kind of like,
"Alright. Now I'm a father."
329
00:15:24,793 --> 00:15:26,708
Icelene: His mother
had a room in the house.
330
00:15:26,838 --> 00:15:29,189
He asked his mom,
"Please, can I have his room?"
331
00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:31,974
She says, "I don't know, Unique,
'cause there's a lot
of other people."
332
00:15:32,061 --> 00:15:34,324
So he had to show her
that he really wanted the room.
333
00:15:34,455 --> 00:15:37,414
Aisha: He made a nice, clean
space for him and Shaquita.
334
00:15:37,501 --> 00:15:39,590
He was very, very protective.
335
00:15:39,721 --> 00:15:42,245
He had Taniqua and Bar-Sun.
336
00:15:42,332 --> 00:15:44,378
Icelene: That's all
he cared about, was us.
337
00:15:44,508 --> 00:15:47,642
We was his purpose on
being righteous, being a rapper,
338
00:15:47,685 --> 00:15:51,602
doing everything,
was to make sure he have us.
339
00:15:51,733 --> 00:15:54,692
Fernando: Ol' Dirty Bastard,
to me, was a character.
340
00:15:54,823 --> 00:15:57,478
That was a name
that came to him from RZA.
341
00:15:57,608 --> 00:15:58,609
RZA:
In all history of rap, man,
342
00:15:58,740 --> 00:16:00,220
ain't nobody got my style.
343
00:16:00,307 --> 00:16:01,786
I keep it real. I keep it live.
344
00:16:01,917 --> 00:16:04,006
That's ol', dirty, and he's
a bastard.
345
00:16:04,137 --> 00:16:06,269
Fernando: Ol' Dirty
got his name from a movie
346
00:16:06,356 --> 00:16:08,184
called
"Ol' Dirty and the Bastard,"
347
00:16:08,315 --> 00:16:10,491
in which
there's this drunken monk.
348
00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:13,233
It's like almost comic kung fu,
like Jackie Chan,
349
00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,235
where this guy's tipsy,
350
00:16:15,365 --> 00:16:18,194
but he's, like, messing up
his opponent with the kung fu.
351
00:16:18,281 --> 00:16:24,287
♪♪
352
00:16:24,374 --> 00:16:26,681
All your rap dudes on Saturdays
353
00:16:26,768 --> 00:16:29,292
was in the house,
waiting for 3:00 to come.
354
00:16:29,379 --> 00:16:32,426
[ Men grunting ]
355
00:16:32,556 --> 00:16:36,212
[ Imitating grunting ]
356
00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:37,431
Fighting each other.
357
00:16:37,518 --> 00:16:38,954
It was just illmatic.
358
00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,912
Certain flicks
would just be like,
359
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,479
"Yo, that's amazing!"
360
00:16:42,566 --> 00:16:46,483
♪♪
361
00:16:46,614 --> 00:16:48,746
When I had brought
that flick to RZA,
362
00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:51,097
"Shaolin Vs. Wu Tang"...
363
00:16:51,140 --> 00:16:55,188
Shaolin shadowboxing.
And a Wu-tang sword style.
364
00:16:55,275 --> 00:16:57,190
...it just opened up
a door in his mind.
365
00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,714
He said, "Yo, I want to make
a group called the Wu-Tang,"
366
00:16:59,801 --> 00:17:01,585
off of that flick.
367
00:17:01,716 --> 00:17:05,023
We never knew that RZA
was so passionate about it.
368
00:17:05,154 --> 00:17:06,721
Just the way they was moving,
369
00:17:06,763 --> 00:17:08,723
you would have thought
they was Chinese...
370
00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:10,550
You know what I mean?
371
00:17:10,637 --> 00:17:12,596
I remember one day RZA
just giving me a call
372
00:17:12,727 --> 00:17:14,903
and saying,
"Yo, we want to start a group."
373
00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:16,512
So I'm like, "Perfect!"
374
00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:19,080
But when RZA incorporated
"ting-ting"
375
00:17:19,167 --> 00:17:20,560
all inside the...
376
00:17:20,691 --> 00:17:24,434
And..."Bring Da Ruckus."
Is the Wu-Tang.
377
00:17:24,565 --> 00:17:26,741
You know what I mean?
All that talking karate...
378
00:17:26,828 --> 00:17:29,309
Yo, it just went with it.
379
00:17:29,439 --> 00:17:31,398
Man: If what you say is true,
380
00:17:31,485 --> 00:17:34,749
the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang
could be dangerous.
381
00:17:34,836 --> 00:17:36,925
Do you think your
Wu-Tang sword can defeat me?
382
00:17:49,894 --> 00:17:53,855
Fernando: I first heard Wu-Tang
in October of '92,
383
00:17:53,942 --> 00:17:56,031
and the song was
"Protect Ya Neck."
384
00:17:56,205 --> 00:17:58,947
♪ Wu-Tang Clan comin' at ya,
watch your step, kid ♪
385
00:17:59,121 --> 00:18:01,123
♪ Watch your step, kid,
watch your step, kid ♪
386
00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:02,777
♪ Watch your step, kid ♪ So set it off
387
00:18:02,864 --> 00:18:04,648
♪ Watch your step, kid,
watch your step, kid ♪
388
00:18:04,779 --> 00:18:07,347
♪ I smoke on the mic like
Smokin' Joe Frazier ♪
389
00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:09,218
♪ The hell raiser,
raisin' hell with the flavor ♪
390
00:18:09,349 --> 00:18:12,700
"Protect Ya Neck" was
the first record ever assembled.
391
00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:16,834
So when that record hit,
it was like, "Oh..."
392
00:18:16,965 --> 00:18:18,923
We all looked at each other
and we like,
393
00:18:19,054 --> 00:18:21,665
"Yo, ain't no stopping now."
394
00:18:21,796 --> 00:18:25,104
I knew -- Like,
"Yo, it's about to be on.
395
00:18:25,191 --> 00:18:27,454
And we takin' --
Whoever got that belt,
396
00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:30,065
we comin' for it
and we gonna hold that.
397
00:18:30,152 --> 00:18:32,372
You feel me?
...that. We want that belt.
398
00:18:32,502 --> 00:18:34,330
We want everybody belt.
399
00:18:34,417 --> 00:18:37,551
Single-handedly and group-wise."
So that was the mission.
400
00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:41,207
We knew the record was different
and it was dope,
401
00:18:41,294 --> 00:18:44,166
but it just was something enough
402
00:18:44,297 --> 00:18:46,429
to get people
to take a look at us.
403
00:18:46,473 --> 00:18:48,823
I think what was extraordinary
about Wu-Tang Clan
404
00:18:48,953 --> 00:18:50,912
that was so striking
for all of us
405
00:18:51,042 --> 00:18:54,611
was that they were a group
and they were cohesive.
406
00:18:54,785 --> 00:18:57,266
Raekwon: At that time, they
wasn't making groups like this.
407
00:18:57,353 --> 00:19:01,227
They wasn't putting
10-man groups together.
408
00:19:01,314 --> 00:19:03,707
A lot of hip-hop is kind of
409
00:19:03,838 --> 00:19:06,971
this beautiful
Italian sports car,
410
00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:08,669
and it's been buffed
and it's been polished
411
00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:11,193
and it's candy-apple red
and it's shiny.
412
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,543
RZA's music?
413
00:19:13,674 --> 00:19:15,415
Pop the hood.
414
00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:17,330
What drives that car?
415
00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:20,028
What drives
that performance machine?
416
00:19:20,202 --> 00:19:21,377
Ghostface: The reaction
to "Protect Ya Neck" --
417
00:19:21,464 --> 00:19:22,944
it was madness.
418
00:19:23,074 --> 00:19:26,034
Riding past cars hearing it.
419
00:19:26,121 --> 00:19:28,602
People calling up, "Yo, could
you play that Wu joint again?
420
00:19:28,776 --> 00:19:30,081
Yo, we need that."
421
00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:32,083
One thing just led to the next.
422
00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:34,912
The buzz around the Wu-Tang Clan
before they got signed --
423
00:19:35,043 --> 00:19:37,350
it just kept growing
and growing and growing.
424
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,613
It's on the radio.
It's everywhere.
425
00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:43,530
And everyone's trying to get
a piece of this Wu-Tang Clan.
426
00:19:43,617 --> 00:19:46,446
Steve Rifkind. I was the founder
and CEO of Loud Records.
427
00:19:46,576 --> 00:19:48,099
I'm pretty competitive,
428
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:51,102
so I wanted it to be the biggest
429
00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:53,104
and best label
that it could possibly be.
430
00:19:53,235 --> 00:19:55,368
Wu-Tang brought
the New York rap scene back.
431
00:19:55,455 --> 00:19:57,587
When they played that record
the first time,
432
00:19:57,631 --> 00:19:59,110
you know, when the guys left,
I said,
433
00:19:59,285 --> 00:20:00,982
"I got to have this.
What is it gonna take?"
434
00:20:01,112 --> 00:20:04,812
Before we even got it going,
we did have conversations
435
00:20:04,899 --> 00:20:09,208
about each one of us
have their own style
436
00:20:09,338 --> 00:20:11,340
that they're gonna
bring to the table.
437
00:20:11,427 --> 00:20:14,125
And the first one that
was gonna be off the roster
438
00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:18,956
that was gonna go first
was Ol' Dirty Bastard.
439
00:20:19,043 --> 00:20:21,132
His delivery was different.
440
00:20:21,263 --> 00:20:23,744
There's no father to it.
441
00:20:23,874 --> 00:20:25,963
He's gonna say
whatever he want to say
442
00:20:26,094 --> 00:20:27,704
and make it sound crazy.
443
00:20:27,835 --> 00:20:29,402
It's like he already knew
444
00:20:29,489 --> 00:20:31,360
what he was getting ready
to give the world.
445
00:20:31,534 --> 00:20:34,755
♪ Ya best protect ya neck,
ya best protect ya neck ♪
446
00:20:40,413 --> 00:20:42,241
The Wu brought a lot of...
to the game, man.
447
00:20:42,328 --> 00:20:44,547
I mean,
the Wu brought intelligence.
448
00:20:44,634 --> 00:20:46,723
The Wu brought,
you know, charisma
449
00:20:46,854 --> 00:20:48,116
on that microphone.
450
00:20:48,203 --> 00:20:49,552
We brought slang.
451
00:20:49,639 --> 00:20:51,946
I brought a dress code.
You see me, man.
452
00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:56,080
I brought Wonder Woman bracelets
and robes and clocks.
453
00:20:56,124 --> 00:20:58,213
You know what I mean?
454
00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,563
Dirt was doing what the...
he was doing.
455
00:21:00,694 --> 00:21:02,391
We brought science.
456
00:21:02,565 --> 00:21:06,395
We was young. 25.
You feel me?
457
00:21:06,526 --> 00:21:09,180
Doing what 25-year-olds do.
That's getting money.
458
00:21:09,311 --> 00:21:10,704
You know what I mean?
459
00:21:10,834 --> 00:21:12,749
Carey:
I was a very big fan
460
00:21:12,836 --> 00:21:15,796
of Wu-Tang Clan
"36 Chambers."
461
00:21:15,926 --> 00:21:17,145
I loved "C.R.E.A.M."
462
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:22,977
♪
463
00:21:23,064 --> 00:21:26,067
Rifkind: In its heyday,
I think we did two main units
464
00:21:26,154 --> 00:21:28,591
without really a radio record.
465
00:21:28,722 --> 00:21:30,506
We had the record "Shame,"
466
00:21:30,637 --> 00:21:32,247
which it was really
featuring Dirty,
467
00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,554
and that record
was just a smash.
468
00:21:34,684 --> 00:21:37,557
I first heard Ol' Dirty Bastard
469
00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:39,428
on the record
"Protect Ya neck."
470
00:21:53,921 --> 00:21:57,359
The next time I heard him
outside of that context
471
00:21:57,490 --> 00:21:59,579
was on the
"Stretch & Bobbito" show.
472
00:21:59,709 --> 00:22:02,756
Ason was a listener of our show
starting in '90,
473
00:22:02,886 --> 00:22:06,150
and he would call up
and he would get through a lot,
474
00:22:06,237 --> 00:22:07,761
and he became, like,
this character
475
00:22:07,891 --> 00:22:09,719
that we knew who was out there.
476
00:22:09,806 --> 00:22:12,809
And then he came in --
came to the station with RZA.
477
00:22:20,034 --> 00:22:23,167
Ross: Now Stretch and Bob
had a very, very popular
478
00:22:23,211 --> 00:22:25,779
underground show
during the '90s.
479
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:27,737
If you came through
the "Stretch & Bobbito" show,
480
00:22:27,868 --> 00:22:30,871
that was almost as good
as getting a deal.
481
00:22:31,001 --> 00:22:34,701
Stretch: One of our dear friends
in the industry was Dante Ross.
482
00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:37,834
Dante was an A&R executive
at Elektra,
483
00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,923
and one night he was listening
484
00:22:40,054 --> 00:22:41,882
and he heard Ol' Dirty
just smash it.
485
00:22:56,070 --> 00:23:01,031
Dante offered him a deal on site
that night.
486
00:23:01,118 --> 00:23:03,120
Raekwon:
He was one of the first ones
487
00:23:03,251 --> 00:23:06,907
that we knew out the crew
that was definitely going solo.
488
00:23:06,994 --> 00:23:09,518
Ross: I signed ODB
to Elektra Records
489
00:23:09,649 --> 00:23:11,694
and executive-produced
his first record.
490
00:23:11,825 --> 00:23:15,089
He had six songs on the demo.
They all were on the album.
491
00:23:15,219 --> 00:23:16,917
His demo was one of
the greatest demos
492
00:23:17,047 --> 00:23:18,701
I've ever had in my entire life.
493
00:23:18,832 --> 00:23:20,529
It was a no-brainer.
494
00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,096
When I heard those records,
495
00:23:22,183 --> 00:23:24,925
I knew that he was
going to be a star.
496
00:23:25,012 --> 00:23:27,101
Oh, one more -- one more thing
before you cut it off.
497
00:23:27,275 --> 00:23:30,147
I'd like to congratulate
my physical cousin Ason
498
00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:31,801
for his newborn
baby daughter today.
499
00:23:31,888 --> 00:23:33,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
500
00:23:33,847 --> 00:23:35,588
[ Cheers and applause ]Congratulations.
501
00:23:35,718 --> 00:23:38,373
Icelene: Unique and the Clan
were out grinding.
502
00:23:38,504 --> 00:23:42,072
I was at home with two children
and pregnant with my third.
503
00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,335
At this time,
I'm staying with my parents.
504
00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:47,382
After I had my third child,
which was Shaquita,
505
00:23:47,513 --> 00:23:50,777
my parents were like,
"You got to go into a shelter."
506
00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:54,694
So me and Unique and the
children moved into a shelter.
507
00:23:54,781 --> 00:23:56,739
Then one day out of nowhere --
we were in the shelter --
508
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:59,176
he just came home and says,
"We're gonna go get married."
509
00:23:59,307 --> 00:24:01,309
That was the proposal.
[ Laughs ]
510
00:24:01,483 --> 00:24:03,703
We stayed in the shelter
for about six months.
511
00:24:03,790 --> 00:24:06,357
And then we found the place.
512
00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,534
So we ended up choosing Harlem.
513
00:24:08,664 --> 00:24:11,754
We only lived there
for maybe six months,
514
00:24:11,841 --> 00:24:14,148
and around the same time
Wu-Tang had made it
515
00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:16,150
at that point
when it got noticed.
516
00:24:16,237 --> 00:24:17,804
You heard their music
on the radio,
517
00:24:17,978 --> 00:24:21,068
and he was going through a lot
to make it happen.
518
00:24:21,155 --> 00:24:22,591
Chang:
I saw his hair first.
519
00:24:22,678 --> 00:24:24,463
I probably just went up
and introduced myself.
520
00:24:24,593 --> 00:24:26,769
I don't even think that I needed
to ask if it was him.
521
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,293
And, you know, in clubs,
it's so loud,
522
00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:32,166
so he had to be
really close to me
523
00:24:32,209 --> 00:24:34,473
and kind of, you know,
almost yelling in my ear.
524
00:24:34,603 --> 00:24:36,518
And I just remember laughing
really loud.
525
00:24:36,649 --> 00:24:37,954
And then there was gunfire.[ Gunfire ]
526
00:24:38,041 --> 00:24:40,043
And he immediately
pushed me down.
527
00:24:40,130 --> 00:24:41,654
Like, "Get on the floor."
528
00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:43,917
I had never heard gunfire
in my life.
529
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,049
He pushed me down immediately.
He's like, "Get down, Sophie!"
530
00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:48,356
And then he just
stayed down with me.
531
00:24:48,443 --> 00:24:50,837
And when everything
started to clear,
532
00:24:50,924 --> 00:24:53,666
I just remember
he was laughing really hard.
533
00:24:53,796 --> 00:24:55,581
He just thought it was so funny.
He wasn't shook at all.
534
00:24:55,711 --> 00:24:57,365
I was shook for sure.
535
00:24:57,452 --> 00:25:00,803
I eventually made my way home
in a cab.
536
00:25:00,934 --> 00:25:03,545
And he called me.
537
00:25:03,632 --> 00:25:06,722
And he said, "Hey, Sophie.
It's Dirty. Are you okay?"
538
00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:09,116
All of that is --
539
00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:14,034
was so telling about the man.
540
00:25:14,077 --> 00:25:17,994
You know,
when I think about Ason,
541
00:25:18,081 --> 00:25:20,083
I don't think about his music,
I don't think about his rhymes.
542
00:25:20,214 --> 00:25:22,042
I think about his heart.
543
00:25:22,129 --> 00:25:25,524
Dirty said, "Sophie,
I love the...out of you."
544
00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:27,569
He said,
"You know, when I'm with you,
545
00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:29,266
I don't have to be
Ol' Dirty Bastard.
546
00:25:29,397 --> 00:25:30,920
I can be Ason Unique."
547
00:25:31,094 --> 00:25:32,531
[ Click ]
548
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:40,582
ODB: You know?
549
00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:42,715
You know what I'm saying?
550
00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:04,693
You know what I'm saying?
551
00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:05,912
[ Tape whirring ]
552
00:26:06,042 --> 00:26:07,783
♪
553
00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:09,916
Ross:
In shaping his public persona,
554
00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:13,484
I would say that Dirty was 100%
responsible for all of it.
555
00:26:13,615 --> 00:26:15,530
He was very self-aware
556
00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:19,403
of the character
he was portraying.
557
00:26:19,534 --> 00:26:21,710
He had a warm spirit and soul.
558
00:26:21,841 --> 00:26:25,627
He was someone who I genuinely
cared for as a person.
559
00:26:25,714 --> 00:26:28,282
And Ol' Dirty Bastard
was the -- [ Chuckles ]
560
00:26:28,325 --> 00:26:30,240
the yin-yang version of that.
561
00:26:30,284 --> 00:26:33,287
He was a performer,
an entertainer,
562
00:26:33,417 --> 00:26:37,596
a troublemaker, half a derelict,
563
00:26:37,726 --> 00:26:39,772
someone who had to
live up to his name.
564
00:26:39,902 --> 00:26:41,904
He demanded to be
the center of attention.
565
00:26:41,991 --> 00:26:44,864
There was no way you were
not going to notice him.
566
00:26:44,907 --> 00:26:46,692
Woman: Tell us some more
about the album.
567
00:26:46,779 --> 00:26:49,303
The album is called
"Return to the 36 Chambers."
568
00:26:49,433 --> 00:26:51,174
You know, the reason
why we said --
569
00:26:51,348 --> 00:26:53,089
we call it the
"Return to the 36 Chambers"
570
00:26:53,263 --> 00:26:54,917
'cause, see,
the Ol' Dirty Bastard
571
00:26:55,004 --> 00:26:56,832
is like the representer
of the Wu.
572
00:26:56,963 --> 00:26:58,704
You know?
They gave me that title.
573
00:26:58,791 --> 00:27:02,533
They gave me, you know --
They'll throw me out first.
574
00:27:02,577 --> 00:27:04,753
Ross: He designed the record
cover. That was his idea.
575
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,625
And that embodies
how aware he was
576
00:27:06,755 --> 00:27:08,539
of the Ol' Dirty Bastard
character
577
00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,498
and how we wanted it
to be positioned.
578
00:27:10,585 --> 00:27:12,674
He literally came to my office
with his welfare card.
579
00:27:12,761 --> 00:27:15,068
I think it might've
been Icelene's
welfare card actually.
580
00:27:15,198 --> 00:27:16,896
And said, "I want this
to be my album cover."
581
00:27:16,983 --> 00:27:18,680
You know, the way he talked --
He's like,
582
00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:20,377
"I got crazy thoughts.
I got thoughts, God."
583
00:27:20,464 --> 00:27:23,119
Like, "Here's the thought."
584
00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:25,339
Clinch:
There was not a lot of hip-hop
585
00:27:25,426 --> 00:27:27,428
in Rolling Stonemagazine,
if any.
586
00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:30,170
The big name-photographers,
the veterans,
587
00:27:30,344 --> 00:27:32,215
they weren't shooting hip-hop.
588
00:27:32,302 --> 00:27:34,391
It wasn't of interest to them.
They thought it was a fad.
589
00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:35,958
So it opened the door
590
00:27:36,045 --> 00:27:39,309
for a lot of young photographers
like myself.
591
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,573
Jacobson: Right away, I could
tell that he had a really strong
592
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,098
and definite idea of his image,
593
00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:50,364
and how he wanted to portray
himself for the album cover art.
594
00:27:50,494 --> 00:27:53,236
Clinch: There was certainly
a buzz about ODB.
595
00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:56,500
The idea was to create
an identity there for him,
596
00:27:56,631 --> 00:27:58,241
cultivate this character.
597
00:27:58,372 --> 00:28:00,504
Danny, being
the coolest cat in the world,
598
00:28:00,591 --> 00:28:02,245
asked Dirty
what he wanted to do.
599
00:28:02,332 --> 00:28:04,117
And Dirty was like, "Yo,
we should go to my cousin's.
600
00:28:04,247 --> 00:28:07,250
My cousin's rest in Brooklyn
is mad...up."
601
00:28:07,424 --> 00:28:09,252
Dirty art-directed the shoot.
602
00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:11,559
He said, "The room,
it's not...up enough."
603
00:28:11,646 --> 00:28:13,430
And he sent his assistant
to get like 10 blunts
604
00:28:13,561 --> 00:28:15,171
and a bunch of forties.
605
00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:17,173
And he poured
most of the forties out
606
00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:19,915
and he put them around the room,
and he took all the blunt guts
607
00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:21,874
and he put them on the floor
all over the place.
608
00:28:22,004 --> 00:28:23,789
And he took the TV
and the stereo
609
00:28:23,876 --> 00:28:25,573
and stacked them on each other,
610
00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:27,183
took his shirt off,
and was like, "Let's go."
611
00:28:27,314 --> 00:28:29,403
Dirty was the antithesis
of what rap was.
612
00:28:29,533 --> 00:28:31,361
He was not upwardly mobile.
613
00:28:31,405 --> 00:28:33,276
He might have been
downwardly mobile.
614
00:28:33,363 --> 00:28:36,453
He kind of celebrated what
some would call the struggle
615
00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:39,239
in a gregarious fashion.
616
00:28:39,369 --> 00:28:41,632
He was wrapping up his album,
617
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,375
and I saw him, and he was like,
618
00:28:45,462 --> 00:28:46,942
"Yo, God, I need something
for the album."
619
00:28:47,073 --> 00:28:48,639
I was like,
"I'd love to be on it."
620
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:50,032
He was like,
"You got to hurry up, though."
621
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:52,121
I'm digging.
I'm looking for sounds.
622
00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:57,823
And I found this drop
that was so crazy-sounding.
623
00:28:57,953 --> 00:28:59,650
I called Dirty.
I was like, "Yo, I got it."
624
00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:02,392
I played it, and instantly
he was in love with it.
625
00:29:02,479 --> 00:29:04,220
Introducing the Brooklyn Zoo,
626
00:29:04,307 --> 00:29:06,266
something that y'all
have never experienced before.
627
00:29:06,396 --> 00:29:09,573
Something that you didn't expect
628
00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:11,314
but you wanted
and you needed it
629
00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:14,056
because it's something
that you just had to get.
630
00:29:14,143 --> 00:29:17,059
We was listening to it
over and over again.
631
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:20,106
He was like, "Yo, God, I think
this might be my first single."
632
00:29:20,193 --> 00:29:22,673
"Brooklyn Zoo" was, like,
a really unorthodox --
633
00:29:22,804 --> 00:29:24,458
Like Ol' Dirty Bastard.
634
00:29:24,545 --> 00:29:26,939
You threw it on
in a 1,000-person club,
635
00:29:27,026 --> 00:29:29,898
and everyone is gonna end up
636
00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:32,292
like 20 feet
from where they started.
637
00:29:43,259 --> 00:29:45,261
Choke No Joke:
♪ One-man army, Ason
638
00:29:45,392 --> 00:29:49,178
♪ I never been tooken out,
I keep MC's looking out ♪
639
00:29:49,309 --> 00:29:52,878
Yo. Like, the flow
is just crazy!
640
00:29:53,008 --> 00:29:54,793
He didn't have a style.
641
00:29:54,923 --> 00:29:56,490
Ol' Dirty Bastard's
gonna make you like,
642
00:29:56,620 --> 00:29:58,144
"What the -- What?!
643
00:29:58,274 --> 00:30:00,799
What did he say?!
Yo, he's crazy!"
644
00:30:11,766 --> 00:30:13,768
Funkmaster Flex:
He had the most swag.
645
00:30:13,899 --> 00:30:16,989
His rhythm and his melodies
were ahead of its time.
646
00:30:17,076 --> 00:30:21,254
A lot of people
zone in on his voice, not --
647
00:30:21,384 --> 00:30:24,648
But it's the melodies.
It's the -- It's the --
648
00:30:24,692 --> 00:30:27,434
In his voice to come up,
to come down
649
00:30:27,477 --> 00:30:30,002
to stretch a word out.
650
00:30:37,748 --> 00:30:39,750
♪ I seen and heard,
no one knows ♪
651
00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:42,405
♪ You forget, be quiet as kept
652
00:30:42,492 --> 00:30:44,103
♪ Now you know nothing
653
00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:46,148
♪ Before you knew
a whole bloodclot lot ♪
654
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:47,933
♪ You don't wanna get shot
655
00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,586
Funkmaster Flex: You know,
his freestyle game, too.
656
00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:51,153
It wasn't just
what he was saying.
657
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,634
It's his hand movement
and how he's moving.
658
00:30:53,721 --> 00:30:55,592
You ever seen that video
of that freestyle?
659
00:30:55,723 --> 00:30:58,595
♪ Asiatic flow,
mixed with disco ♪
660
00:30:58,682 --> 00:31:01,772
♪ I roll up on the scene
like the Count of Monte Crisco ♪
661
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,862
♪ And MC's start to vanish
662
00:31:03,949 --> 00:31:05,515
♪ I rolled up
on a jet-black kid ♪
663
00:31:05,602 --> 00:31:06,777
♪ He started speakin' Spanish
664
00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:09,258
♪ Yo, he wasn't from Panama
665
00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:11,173
♪ I asked him
how the...he get so dark ♪
666
00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:14,133
♪ He said, "Sun-tanama!" Crowd: Ohh!
667
00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:17,397
Funkmaster Flex: That's an MC
mixed with being a b-boy
668
00:31:17,527 --> 00:31:19,355
mixed with being from Brooklyn.
669
00:31:19,486 --> 00:31:21,140
Connor:
ODB sewed the seeds
670
00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:24,230
for rap as expression
671
00:31:24,317 --> 00:31:28,060
rather than rap as like
a kind of technical exercise
672
00:31:28,147 --> 00:31:30,279
in fitting together words
to rhyme the most.
673
00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:33,195
He knew exactly what rules
to break at what time.
674
00:31:33,326 --> 00:31:35,154
And "Mystery of Chessboxin',"
for me,
675
00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,591
is really the song
that shows that the most.
676
00:31:44,772 --> 00:31:47,862
What he's saying
becomes such, like, a overload
677
00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:50,473
of kind of, like, expression
678
00:31:50,604 --> 00:31:52,432
or him trying
to get you to hear him
679
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,957
that is just, like, this
really great moment of him
680
00:31:56,088 --> 00:31:58,220
almost, like,
punching through the song
681
00:31:58,351 --> 00:31:59,874
and reaching you directly.
682
00:31:59,961 --> 00:32:01,615
And I think that kind of rawness
683
00:32:01,702 --> 00:32:05,662
is really what makes people
unable to stop watching.
684
00:32:05,836 --> 00:32:10,450
Dirty's first solo album --
it was raw, it was new.
685
00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:13,105
It was refreshing.
You know what I mean?
686
00:32:13,192 --> 00:32:15,542
A little raunchy.
You know what I mean?
687
00:32:15,629 --> 00:32:17,326
But, again, it was him.
688
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,241
Everybody trying
to please somebody, man.
689
00:32:19,328 --> 00:32:20,851
I ain't trying
to please no...body.
690
00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:22,723
Know what I'm saying?
691
00:32:22,853 --> 00:32:23,898
Either you like my...
or you don't like it.
692
00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:25,204
I don't give a...
693
00:32:25,334 --> 00:32:26,901
Ross: The record spread.
694
00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:29,164
It was a hit record
because of his persona
695
00:32:29,295 --> 00:32:31,601
and how much
he projected on screen.
696
00:32:31,732 --> 00:32:33,864
And the camera loved him.
697
00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:36,432
♪ Ooh, baby, I like it raw
698
00:32:36,476 --> 00:32:39,218
♪ Yeah, baby, I like it raw
699
00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:41,611
♪ Ooh, baby, I like it raw
700
00:32:41,698 --> 00:32:45,093
♪ Yeah, baby, I like it raw
701
00:32:45,224 --> 00:32:47,356
♪ Shimmy, shimmy, ya,
shimmy, yam, shimmy, yay ♪
702
00:32:47,487 --> 00:32:50,055
♪ Gimme the mic
so I can take it away ♪
703
00:32:50,185 --> 00:32:52,535
♪ Off on a natural charge,
bon voyage ♪
704
00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:55,016
♪ Yeah, from the home of
the Dodger Brooklyn squad ♪
705
00:32:55,147 --> 00:32:57,410
♪ Wu-Tang killer bees
on a swarm ♪
706
00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:59,803
♪ Rain on your college-ass
disco dorm ♪
707
00:32:59,890 --> 00:33:02,458
♪ For you to even touch
my skill, you gotta go... ♪
708
00:33:02,589 --> 00:33:06,375
Ross: He was dangerous on some
level, but he was lovable.
709
00:33:06,462 --> 00:33:07,855
You kind of wanted
to put your arms around him
710
00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:09,639
and give him a hug.
711
00:33:09,726 --> 00:33:12,077
He had this everyman thing
that we all love,
712
00:33:12,207 --> 00:33:13,687
and he had that combined
713
00:33:13,774 --> 00:33:16,472
with this person
who had no boundaries.
714
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,822
♪ My flow is like bam, jump
on stage, and then I dip down ♪
715
00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:21,564
Ross: He was not built for fame
and fortune and success.
716
00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:23,392
Very few of us are.
717
00:33:23,479 --> 00:33:27,831
He became the uber version
of Ol' Dirty Bastard.
718
00:33:27,918 --> 00:33:29,877
And he was,
from my vantage point,
719
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:32,314
headed for some form
of disaster.
720
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:39,930
Jacobson:
When he was kind of alone,
721
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:43,499
he was a little bit
more introverted and quiet.
722
00:33:43,630 --> 00:33:48,722
He struck me as a young person
who had a lot of responsibility.
723
00:33:48,765 --> 00:33:50,898
He was scrappy.
He was -- He was coming up
724
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:54,771
and he had a mission
to make money.
725
00:33:54,858 --> 00:33:57,209
Raekwon: Dirty -- he knew a lot
of people who had money.
726
00:33:57,296 --> 00:33:59,428
He knew a lot of people
that didn't have money.
727
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:01,735
He knew people
from his own neighborhood.
728
00:34:08,742 --> 00:34:11,658
Everybody knew Dirty
had a big heart.
729
00:34:11,831 --> 00:34:14,052
His thing was always
to give back to his people.
730
00:34:19,187 --> 00:34:21,233
He loved to give people money.
731
00:34:21,362 --> 00:34:23,190
And that's just who he was.
732
00:34:23,322 --> 00:34:25,541
Because he always said,
"I'm gonna make more money.
733
00:34:25,628 --> 00:34:27,935
I'm gonna make more money."
He was the only guy that I knew
734
00:34:28,022 --> 00:34:31,025
that really didn't care
about money at that time.
735
00:34:31,156 --> 00:34:34,637
He loved to help people,
but he also loved to be
736
00:34:34,681 --> 00:34:39,338
three minutes away
from where...is at.
737
00:34:39,425 --> 00:34:42,819
He was drinking a lot,
and he stayed in those areas
738
00:34:42,949 --> 00:34:45,431
where trouble
is right around the corner.
739
00:34:45,561 --> 00:34:46,909
That's when you start hearing...
740
00:34:47,041 --> 00:34:48,608
If a mother...see you drunk,
741
00:34:48,782 --> 00:34:50,784
he gonna feel like
he got one up on you.
742
00:34:50,914 --> 00:34:52,568
Woman:
Trying to get in the hotel.
743
00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,179
He was just putting himself
in bad places
744
00:34:55,266 --> 00:34:57,965
at the wrong time, you know?
745
00:34:58,052 --> 00:34:59,880
Icelene:
I'm at home with the children.
746
00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:02,012
Unique's father calls me, says,
"Shaquita, don't be scared.
747
00:35:02,143 --> 00:35:05,015
Unique is alright,
but he was shot."
748
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:08,018
He was in a familiar place,
and somebody attacked him.
749
00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:09,629
I think that hurt him --
750
00:35:09,759 --> 00:35:11,544
hurt emotionally
and hurt physically
751
00:35:11,631 --> 00:35:13,546
from the gunshot wound.
752
00:35:27,212 --> 00:35:28,909
Life: Lot of the things
Dirty went through --
753
00:35:28,996 --> 00:35:30,650
getting shot and everything --
754
00:35:30,737 --> 00:35:33,522
was because he stayed
accessible to the people.
755
00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:36,134
But you did have people
that was jealous.
756
00:35:36,264 --> 00:35:39,528
I mean, he had things that other
people wanted, and, you know,
757
00:35:39,702 --> 00:35:42,270
certain things happen,
unfortunately, you know?
758
00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:45,143
But he never let that deter him.
He stayed who he was.
759
00:36:00,332 --> 00:36:01,594
-[ Chuckles ] Okay.
-You know what I mean?
760
00:36:01,681 --> 00:36:03,248
Alright.
761
00:36:03,335 --> 00:36:04,814
Icelene:
It felt like magic.
762
00:36:04,901 --> 00:36:06,773
You should be here
so you can lay down.
763
00:36:06,903 --> 00:36:08,862
I was there with him
when he was writing his music
764
00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:11,865
and playing the music
and blasting it
through the apartment.
765
00:36:11,995 --> 00:36:13,693
It was something
that we worked on.
766
00:36:13,867 --> 00:36:15,912
You couldn't believe
that something like this
767
00:36:15,999 --> 00:36:17,479
was really happening.
768
00:36:17,653 --> 00:36:21,091
[ Rapping indistinctly ]
769
00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:25,835
[ Crowd cheering ]
770
00:36:25,922 --> 00:36:28,447
My father -- he just did
whatever he wanted,
771
00:36:28,534 --> 00:36:32,102
when he wanted to, on a stage.
772
00:36:32,233 --> 00:36:35,889
And I couldn't believe
that that was my father.
773
00:36:35,976 --> 00:36:38,979
He was being so funny,
but it was still real.
774
00:36:39,153 --> 00:36:41,503
He had that joker about him.
775
00:36:41,634 --> 00:36:43,810
I think he knew what he is.
776
00:36:43,897 --> 00:36:47,857
He's a man of respect.
For honor.
777
00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:55,256
♪♪
778
00:36:55,387 --> 00:36:58,128
Man: Give it up
for the ODB, y'all!
779
00:36:58,216 --> 00:36:59,913
[ Indistinct conversations ]
780
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:07,094
[ Indistinct conversations ]
781
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:15,624
♪
782
00:37:15,711 --> 00:37:24,372
♪♪
783
00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:27,419
He really loved people.
784
00:37:27,549 --> 00:37:29,899
[ Indistinct conversations ]
785
00:37:29,986 --> 00:37:32,119
♪♪
786
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,730
He showered people
with their love.
787
00:37:34,817 --> 00:37:38,038
♪♪
788
00:37:38,168 --> 00:37:39,779
[ Indistinct conversations ]
789
00:37:39,909 --> 00:37:44,958
♪
790
00:37:45,045 --> 00:37:47,526
That love goes a long way.
791
00:37:47,656 --> 00:37:49,832
You know? 'Cause he --
he had this strong love.
792
00:37:49,919 --> 00:37:56,317
♪♪
793
00:37:56,448 --> 00:38:02,932
♪
794
00:38:03,019 --> 00:38:06,196
Mommy was his love,
his only love.
795
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:08,590
♪♪
796
00:38:08,677 --> 00:38:11,071
And it became --
all of that love
797
00:38:11,201 --> 00:38:14,466
that you have from your wife
goes into your children.
798
00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:18,731
♪♪
799
00:38:18,905 --> 00:38:21,473
Taniqua: We're different than a
lot of people, upbringing wise.
800
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,041
We don't move
like a lot of people.
801
00:38:25,128 --> 00:38:27,000
Bar-Sun: My father understand
that we was one.
802
00:38:27,087 --> 00:38:29,655
We was all one,
united and connected.
803
00:38:29,785 --> 00:38:32,266
♪
804
00:38:32,397 --> 00:38:33,876
Shaquita: It was kind of
like keep us together.
805
00:38:34,007 --> 00:38:36,879
Keep us tight, close.
806
00:38:37,010 --> 00:38:39,055
But we can't just let
anybody and everybody in.
807
00:38:39,142 --> 00:38:41,144
♪♪
808
00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:43,669
He didn't have us
around everybody.
809
00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:45,627
He always kept us away
And just be like,
810
00:38:45,714 --> 00:38:47,150
"Okay. This is where y'all are.
811
00:38:47,237 --> 00:38:49,239
And this is where
y'all gonna be."
812
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:51,764
We keep everything tight
in our little cipher.
813
00:38:51,851 --> 00:38:54,114
[ Indistinct conversations ]
814
00:38:54,201 --> 00:38:56,638
Cipher is from the mathematics.
815
00:38:56,812 --> 00:38:59,380
Cipher is a circle.
816
00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,904
And we don't let nobody
break our cipher.
817
00:39:02,035 --> 00:39:03,950
We don't let anybody
come into our cipher.
818
00:39:04,037 --> 00:39:07,519
If we do, we're giving you
the ultimate trust and respect.
819
00:39:07,649 --> 00:39:10,435
And once you are in, you're in.
820
00:39:10,565 --> 00:39:12,872
And if you break it, that's
it -- we're pushing you out.
821
00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:16,005
ODB: Come on, man. I gotta
spin this thing. Look out.
822
00:39:16,092 --> 00:39:18,399
Spin it.Spin it, spin it, spin it!
823
00:39:18,486 --> 00:39:22,534
[ Laughter ]
824
00:39:22,621 --> 00:39:25,841
Icelene:
I kept trying to get him back
on track as being Unique Ason.
825
00:39:25,928 --> 00:39:28,322
He didn't know
which way to go at times
826
00:39:28,409 --> 00:39:31,238
because there was so many people
pulling him in a negative way.
827
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:32,718
Child: Are we going down
or something?
828
00:39:32,848 --> 00:39:34,546
It became a little confusing
to him
829
00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:37,070
on who was really there for him
and who wasn't.
830
00:39:42,989 --> 00:39:45,165
Jacobson: He was kind of
a mixed bag of personalities.
831
00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:47,863
There was a kind of -- a sadness
in a certain way with him.
832
00:39:49,778 --> 00:39:52,128
Raekwon: Once he started getting
money, he just was confident
833
00:39:52,259 --> 00:39:54,957
in what he believed
that he was gonna be.
834
00:39:55,044 --> 00:39:58,831
But you know how it goes.
It start feeling different.
835
00:39:58,961 --> 00:40:01,007
It start feeling funny.
836
00:40:01,094 --> 00:40:02,835
Touré:
I was working for MTV News.
837
00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:04,837
"Brooklyn Zoo" was out.
838
00:40:04,967 --> 00:40:08,014
And I was like, "Let's do a
profile package with this guy."
839
00:40:08,188 --> 00:40:10,320
The night before the shoot,
840
00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:14,716
I'm on the phone with Dirty,
his publicist.
841
00:40:14,847 --> 00:40:18,198
Jacobson: Dirty wanted to make
the first stop of the interview
842
00:40:18,285 --> 00:40:23,029
be going to a check-cashing
establishment.
843
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:24,770
And he's like, explaining, like,
844
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:28,861
"So, we're gonna go
to the check-cashing place
845
00:40:28,991 --> 00:40:31,690
and I'm gonna get food stamps.
846
00:40:31,777 --> 00:40:34,432
'Cause that relates
to the album cover."
847
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:37,870
And I was like,
"Okay. It's got to be real.
848
00:40:37,913 --> 00:40:39,306
This is not a music video."
849
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,743
You're trying
to talk to a person,
850
00:40:41,787 --> 00:40:44,006
but they're not
really listening.
851
00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:45,791
Icelene:
He had a limo for the day.
852
00:40:45,878 --> 00:40:48,054
We went to some check-cashing
place in Brooklyn
853
00:40:48,184 --> 00:40:50,143
we used to go to a lot.
I'm thinking we just gonna
854
00:40:50,273 --> 00:40:51,840
go in there
and talk or whatever.
855
00:40:51,971 --> 00:40:53,668
He wanted me to put
my food-stamp card in there,
856
00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:55,322
and I had it
'cause I had it in my wallet
857
00:40:55,409 --> 00:40:57,237
'cause I used to carry it
all the time.
858
00:40:57,324 --> 00:40:59,152
He said, "Put your card in
there. Put your card in there."
859
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,980
Woman: Thank you.
860
00:41:01,067 --> 00:41:02,982
It was like 400 and somewhat
dollars of food stamps.
861
00:41:03,069 --> 00:41:06,115
He, like, fanned it out
for the camera.
862
00:41:06,202 --> 00:41:09,162
And I'm like,
"Okay, okay, okay."
863
00:41:09,205 --> 00:41:10,816
ODB: We good to go.
Come on.
864
00:41:10,946 --> 00:41:12,600
And then he put it in his pocket
865
00:41:12,774 --> 00:41:14,167
and he walked out the door
and he got in the car.
866
00:41:14,297 --> 00:41:16,996
And I was like,
"Wait! He left!"
867
00:41:17,126 --> 00:41:19,955
Why wouldn't you want
to get free money?
868
00:41:19,999 --> 00:41:21,435
They ran that video
over and over again.
869
00:41:21,522 --> 00:41:23,089
Everybody just loved it,
I guess.
870
00:41:23,219 --> 00:41:26,092
I mean, but how could you
be abusing the system
871
00:41:26,222 --> 00:41:29,051
when the system is already
crooked and...up anyway?
872
00:41:29,182 --> 00:41:31,489
Besides, America owes
the Black people
873
00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:33,447
forty acres and a mule,
any...damn way.
874
00:41:33,578 --> 00:41:35,841
He called me drunk
the night after it aired.
875
00:41:35,971 --> 00:41:38,887
He was fearful
that social services
876
00:41:38,974 --> 00:41:41,020
were going to try
and take his kids from him,
877
00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:43,849
and he was extremely emotional.
878
00:41:45,459 --> 00:41:49,245
I think I was kind of
pissed off at Touré.
879
00:41:49,376 --> 00:41:54,642
It's not media's responsibility
to save you from yourself.
880
00:41:54,729 --> 00:41:57,036
I didn't tell him, "Go do that."
881
00:41:57,123 --> 00:41:59,212
That was his idea.
882
00:41:59,299 --> 00:42:01,388
I didn't tell him,
"Give the money back."
883
00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:05,131
That's not my responsibility.
He's a grown man.
884
00:42:05,261 --> 00:42:07,437
Icelene: That video
kept coming back to haunt us.
885
00:42:07,568 --> 00:42:09,701
The whole New York government
was against us.
886
00:42:09,831 --> 00:42:12,486
Bain:
Particularly for Black folks
who've come up out of Brooklyn
887
00:42:12,617 --> 00:42:14,575
written off as welfare queens
and, you know,
888
00:42:14,662 --> 00:42:16,534
folks who could only be
at the bottom of the bottom,
889
00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:18,536
that was liberating.
He was so free.
890
00:42:18,666 --> 00:42:20,842
He was so free with who he was
and comfortable in his own skin.
891
00:42:21,016 --> 00:42:23,628
It makes you feel
a certain specialness.
892
00:42:23,715 --> 00:42:25,978
Carey:
I think he brought so much
893
00:42:26,108 --> 00:42:28,197
personality and effervescence
894
00:42:28,284 --> 00:42:31,244
and just, like,
"No F's given" energy.
895
00:42:31,374 --> 00:42:32,854
♪
896
00:42:32,985 --> 00:42:34,421
I was working on my album.
897
00:42:34,508 --> 00:42:35,857
I had already done
the song "Fantasy,"
898
00:42:35,988 --> 00:42:38,294
which samples
the Tom Tom Club loop.
899
00:42:38,425 --> 00:42:40,819
I was surrounded
by record-company people
900
00:42:40,949 --> 00:42:43,561
that really wanted me
to be in one specific lane,
901
00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:46,433
which was
a very successful lane for me,
902
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,394
but I had a love of hip-hop
music since I was a kid.
903
00:42:51,525 --> 00:42:54,746
The SWV record had come out,
with the whole Wu-Tang Clan
904
00:42:54,876 --> 00:42:56,312
right before that --
"Anything."
905
00:42:56,443 --> 00:42:58,140
♪ Whoa, oh, oh
906
00:42:58,271 --> 00:43:01,187
♪ Ol' Dirty Bas,
style cuts like glass ♪
907
00:43:01,317 --> 00:43:03,406
♪ Gotta, gotta keep it high,
power to the mass ♪
908
00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:05,234
Carey:
His voice in tandem with mine,
909
00:43:05,365 --> 00:43:06,932
they were so different
from each other.
910
00:43:07,062 --> 00:43:08,455
People weren't expecting it.
911
00:43:08,542 --> 00:43:10,588
I went in, redid my parts.
912
00:43:10,762 --> 00:43:12,764
Then there was the session.
913
00:43:12,851 --> 00:43:14,853
I had no idea
what he was gonna say.
914
00:43:14,983 --> 00:43:17,551
I had no idea what the rhyme
was gonna be, at all.
915
00:43:17,682 --> 00:43:19,901
I'm, like, listening in
on the phone.
916
00:43:19,988 --> 00:43:21,990
I remember this engineer,
this poor guy.
917
00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:26,865
He was, like, this short,
little Caucasian man.
918
00:43:26,952 --> 00:43:30,520
You know, really cool, nice guy,
but wasn't ready for ODB.
919
00:43:30,651 --> 00:43:33,132
And he was like,
"Yo, Devil, go get me --"
920
00:43:33,219 --> 00:43:34,612
[ Chuckles ]
"Go get me this and that."
921
00:43:34,699 --> 00:43:36,657
I was on the phone like,
"Oh, my God."
922
00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:38,311
A few more hours went by,
he took a nap,
923
00:43:38,441 --> 00:43:40,182
and then it's on speakerphone.
924
00:43:40,269 --> 00:43:42,184
I'm listening. I'm dying.
925
00:43:42,315 --> 00:43:45,535
I'm sitting there like
the giddiest kid on Earth.
926
00:43:45,579 --> 00:43:48,669
So happy. Basically jumping up
and down on the bed, so happy.
927
00:43:48,756 --> 00:43:51,324
And then when he gets
to the "me and Mariah" section,
928
00:43:51,454 --> 00:43:53,021
I'm flipping out even more.
929
00:43:53,152 --> 00:43:57,286
I'm like -- I can't even believe
what this is.
930
00:43:57,417 --> 00:44:00,986
♪ Me and Mariah go back
like babies with pacifiers ♪
931
00:44:01,073 --> 00:44:02,901
Ghostface: When I heard him
on Mariah's...
932
00:44:03,031 --> 00:44:06,078
it was like, "Oh..."
He knew how to do it.
933
00:44:06,208 --> 00:44:08,950
You got regular rap songs
and rap all through the...
934
00:44:09,037 --> 00:44:11,213
But there's no moments in there.
935
00:44:11,344 --> 00:44:12,693
Know what I mean?
936
00:44:12,780 --> 00:44:14,695
His part is the moment.
937
00:44:14,782 --> 00:44:16,871
When we did the video,
I had the concept
938
00:44:17,002 --> 00:44:18,960
at Rye Playland.
Let's just shoot it there.
939
00:44:19,134 --> 00:44:20,570
Man:
Welcome to the...
940
00:44:20,614 --> 00:44:22,268
Carey:
In the pop version, the clown --
941
00:44:22,355 --> 00:44:24,313
he's, like, leading you
through the video.
942
00:44:24,444 --> 00:44:27,490
So I said to ODB, "What do you
think about that clown --
943
00:44:27,577 --> 00:44:30,972
if now you've tied him
on this pole and, like,
944
00:44:31,059 --> 00:44:33,540
you've clearly
taken over the moment?"
945
00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:35,629
And he was like, "Yo.
That's peace, that's peace,
that's peace."
946
00:44:35,803 --> 00:44:37,762
And I was like,
"Okay, let's go."
947
00:44:37,849 --> 00:44:41,026
♪ Yo, New York in the house
948
00:44:41,156 --> 00:44:43,245
♪ It's Brooklyn in the house
949
00:44:43,332 --> 00:44:46,248
Carey: I love, love, love
his performance in that video.
950
00:44:46,379 --> 00:44:50,165
Every single part of it
was genius.
951
00:44:50,252 --> 00:44:53,865
The way he performed,
he was free.
952
00:44:53,952 --> 00:44:58,304
He did stuff so spontaneously,
like in the moment.
953
00:44:58,391 --> 00:44:59,871
He was in the moment.
954
00:45:00,001 --> 00:45:02,525
Even when he had the wig on
955
00:45:02,656 --> 00:45:04,440
and was, like, looking up
in the sky with no shirt.
956
00:45:04,484 --> 00:45:06,529
Like, that was his thing.
957
00:45:06,616 --> 00:45:08,618
♪ Me and Mariah go back
like babies with pacifiers ♪
958
00:45:08,749 --> 00:45:10,751
Carey: Not every hip-hop artist
959
00:45:10,925 --> 00:45:12,622
was playing
Madison Square Garden.
960
00:45:12,753 --> 00:45:15,190
Backstage, we spent
like 30 minutes
961
00:45:15,277 --> 00:45:17,453
taking pictures with him and,
like, everybody in the family.
962
00:45:17,584 --> 00:45:20,718
He had maybe two dressing rooms
963
00:45:20,805 --> 00:45:26,767
full of family --
kids, lovely ladies.
964
00:45:26,854 --> 00:45:28,856
Lots of family.
965
00:45:28,987 --> 00:45:30,684
The record was, I believe,
966
00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:33,818
number one on the hip-hop charts
for eight weeks.
967
00:45:33,905 --> 00:45:37,386
It was a big deal for us --
I think for us both. You know?
968
00:45:37,473 --> 00:45:39,867
Guesting on
Mariah Carey's "Fantasy"
969
00:45:39,998 --> 00:45:44,176
catapulted him into a whole
other level of awareness.
970
00:45:44,263 --> 00:45:48,049
People who may not
have been hip-hop fans
971
00:45:48,136 --> 00:45:51,139
were hearing him
for the first time.
972
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:53,315
It went to his head.
973
00:45:53,446 --> 00:45:55,187
I think he thought
it was an opportunity
974
00:45:55,317 --> 00:45:58,625
for him to get to a next level
that unfortunately,
975
00:45:58,712 --> 00:46:01,933
'cause of his self-sabotage,
he did not get to.
976
00:46:10,898 --> 00:46:13,248
[ Indistinct conversations ]
977
00:46:13,335 --> 00:46:17,513
♪♪
978
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,472
[ Indistinct conversations ]
979
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,518
[ Singing indistinctly ]
980
00:46:22,605 --> 00:46:27,959
♪♪
981
00:46:28,133 --> 00:46:32,833
Russell Jones didn't have time
to kind of adjust.
982
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,662
Touré: Suddenly he has money,
and he's spending a lot of it
983
00:46:35,836 --> 00:46:38,926
on stuff to make himself happy.
984
00:46:39,057 --> 00:46:42,538
There was just
massive excitement around him.
985
00:46:42,669 --> 00:46:46,455
And you got to outdo yourself
to be that guy.
986
00:46:46,542 --> 00:46:50,459
And he wanted to be that guy.
987
00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:53,985
Jacobson:
Also, for him, he had a persona,
988
00:46:54,072 --> 00:46:57,597
and he kind of had to
keep the persona going.
989
00:46:57,727 --> 00:47:00,948
He got pretty egotistical.
990
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:04,299
Some of his humility
got pushed to the back burner.
991
00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:06,736
[ Crowd cheering ]
992
00:47:06,824 --> 00:47:11,350
♪♪
993
00:47:11,437 --> 00:47:14,222
Ghostface:
He knew how to get women.
994
00:47:14,353 --> 00:47:16,181
He knew how to get 'em.
He knew how to get 'em.
995
00:47:16,268 --> 00:47:19,358
He'd do the...
that you would want to do
996
00:47:19,488 --> 00:47:21,490
but you were afraid to do it.
997
00:47:21,577 --> 00:47:23,318
MeToo would probably
come and get Dirty
998
00:47:23,449 --> 00:47:25,755
for his troubling behavior.
999
00:47:25,886 --> 00:47:27,714
♪ You give me your number,
I'll call you up ♪
1000
00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:29,716
True Master:
I was driving with Dirty.
1001
00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:32,937
We at a light.
And it's just ugly girls.
1002
00:47:33,024 --> 00:47:35,461
Well, then, she starts smiling,
and he starts smiling.
1003
00:47:35,548 --> 00:47:36,941
Like, "Oh, baby, pull over."
1004
00:47:37,071 --> 00:47:39,813
Gets her number, talks to her.
1005
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:44,644
Get in the car. I'm like, "That
bitch was ugly as hell, God."
1006
00:47:44,731 --> 00:47:46,951
♪ All the pretty girls
in the world ♪
1007
00:47:47,038 --> 00:47:48,953
♪ And the ugly girls, too
1008
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,520
♪ 'Cause to me you're
pretty anyway, baby, heh ♪
1009
00:47:51,564 --> 00:47:52,957
He says,
"Sometimes ugly bitches --
1010
00:47:53,087 --> 00:47:54,610
You'll have the time
of your life."
1011
00:47:54,741 --> 00:47:56,699
[ Laughs ]
1012
00:47:56,830 --> 00:47:59,920
And I remember he controlled
like 50 women at one time.
1013
00:48:00,007 --> 00:48:02,009
He came in the building
with, like, a mom.
1014
00:48:02,096 --> 00:48:06,405
This was the power that he had.
1015
00:48:06,535 --> 00:48:08,102
Allen:
He was a womanizer.
1016
00:48:08,233 --> 00:48:12,802
I didn't like
how he treated my friend.
1017
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:16,328
Icelene:
One day, out of nowhere,
a young girl knocked on my door.
1018
00:48:16,458 --> 00:48:20,027
She was like, "I can have
your man and mines, too."
1019
00:48:20,158 --> 00:48:21,768
Raekwon:
His wife, to me, was really
1020
00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:24,989
the only one
that understood him.
1021
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:27,208
But they would have they fights.
1022
00:48:27,382 --> 00:48:30,124
You know, his wife ain't
no joke. She's a strong lady.
1023
00:48:30,255 --> 00:48:32,257
♪ I ain't got no time
for no mother...bitches ♪
1024
00:48:32,344 --> 00:48:34,781
♪ Calling my mother...house
with that bull... ♪
1025
00:48:34,868 --> 00:48:36,870
♪ You got three...babies
to take care of ♪
1026
00:48:36,957 --> 00:48:38,393
♪ ...that...
1027
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,439
Raekwon:
If she suspected his ass,
1028
00:48:40,526 --> 00:48:43,398
she would prove it,
kick his ass out.
1029
00:48:43,485 --> 00:48:47,228
So a lot of times
Dirty didn't have
1030
00:48:47,272 --> 00:48:49,839
that support system no more
because he was...up.
1031
00:48:49,927 --> 00:48:51,929
He messed with different girls.
1032
00:48:52,059 --> 00:48:54,192
All my friends and family know
he's out there doing this stuff.
1033
00:48:54,322 --> 00:48:56,281
It was just real hard.
1034
00:48:56,411 --> 00:49:00,589
I got babies. Got one in the
oven right there. See? See?
1035
00:49:00,676 --> 00:49:02,722
We're having a son real soon.
1036
00:49:02,852 --> 00:49:04,419
Taniqua: He was bringing
different women over.
1037
00:49:04,506 --> 00:49:06,160
Very blunt.
1038
00:49:06,291 --> 00:49:08,467
"Here, Shaquita.
I just had another baby."
1039
00:49:08,597 --> 00:49:13,602
♪
1040
00:49:13,689 --> 00:49:15,343
Icelene:
I used to always threaten him.
1041
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:17,345
I was like, "I'm not
gonna be with you anymore.
1042
00:49:17,432 --> 00:49:20,740
I got three babies,
and I'm just sick of this."
1043
00:49:20,827 --> 00:49:22,568
He had more money than I had.
1044
00:49:22,698 --> 00:49:24,744
He was like,
"We're not getting a divorce."
1045
00:49:24,874 --> 00:49:28,400
Divorce? That's like
when Moses parted the Red Sea.
1046
00:49:28,487 --> 00:49:29,967
You know what I mean?
1047
00:49:30,054 --> 00:49:32,056
But it had to come back
together again.
1048
00:49:32,186 --> 00:49:34,797
You know? And it got to
stay back together.
1049
00:49:34,884 --> 00:49:38,801
She was his.
He was taking ownership of her.
1050
00:49:38,888 --> 00:49:42,805
He was -- [ Sighs ]
cruel sometimes to her.
1051
00:49:52,163 --> 00:49:54,165
Icelene: I seen him in
the car once with a girl --
1052
00:49:54,252 --> 00:49:57,081
in my car, my Infiniti
that he bought for me.
1053
00:49:57,211 --> 00:49:59,605
I went knocking on the window,
and she rolled the window down
1054
00:49:59,735 --> 00:50:02,477
like this much, and I was like,
"Where's my...husband at?!"
1055
00:50:02,564 --> 00:50:04,262
♪♪
1056
00:50:04,349 --> 00:50:05,611
I went without for a long time
1057
00:50:05,698 --> 00:50:07,308
and just struggled
for a long time,
1058
00:50:07,395 --> 00:50:10,137
but I was done at that point.
1059
00:50:10,224 --> 00:50:12,096
Man: Your wife has said
that you hadn't paid
1060
00:50:12,139 --> 00:50:14,054
a fair amount
of child support.
1061
00:50:14,141 --> 00:50:17,144
Of course I pay child support.
You know what I mean?
1062
00:50:17,231 --> 00:50:19,668
I mean, why wouldn't I?
I love my wife.
1063
00:50:19,799 --> 00:50:22,454
[ Laughs ]
1064
00:50:22,541 --> 00:50:24,499
Yes, I love her, dearly.
1065
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:28,025
[ Indistinct conversations ]
1066
00:50:28,112 --> 00:50:30,505
Ross: His name was
Ol' Dirty Bastard.
1067
00:50:30,592 --> 00:50:32,681
He's living his life in public.
1068
00:50:32,768 --> 00:50:35,815
He was expected to do wild...
1069
00:50:35,945 --> 00:50:38,383
You know, do things like walk
on the stage at the Grammys.
1070
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:40,211
Announcer:
It's music's biggest night!
1071
00:50:40,341 --> 00:50:42,996
The 40th Annual Grammy Awards!
1072
00:50:43,083 --> 00:50:44,519
We were all at my house,
and he goes,
1073
00:50:44,650 --> 00:50:46,391
"How come you're not going?"
I said,
1074
00:50:46,434 --> 00:50:48,436
"We lost already. They announced
it at 3:00 or 4:00."
1075
00:50:48,567 --> 00:50:50,177
He got pissed,
1076
00:50:50,221 --> 00:50:52,962
was like, "I just spent
$2,000 on a suit."
1077
00:50:53,093 --> 00:50:54,529
[ Imitates drumroll ]
1078
00:50:54,703 --> 00:50:56,966
Shawn Colvin
and John Leventhal...
1079
00:50:57,097 --> 00:50:59,317
[ Cheers and applause ]
1080
00:50:59,447 --> 00:51:01,580
♪
1081
00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:03,756
ODB: Please turn it down.
1082
00:51:03,843 --> 00:51:07,586
The music and everything.
Everything.
1083
00:51:07,673 --> 00:51:09,240
I went and bought
this outfit today
1084
00:51:09,414 --> 00:51:10,937
that costed
a lot of money today.
1085
00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:12,765
You know what I mean?
'Cause I figured
1086
00:51:12,895 --> 00:51:14,375
that Wu-Tang was gonna win.
1087
00:51:14,462 --> 00:51:16,638
Like, "Oh, my God.
What is he doing?"
1088
00:51:16,725 --> 00:51:19,380
I didn't know how everyone else
was gonna take it.
1089
00:51:19,467 --> 00:51:20,947
I don't know how y'all see it,
1090
00:51:21,121 --> 00:51:22,688
but when it comes
to the children,
1091
00:51:22,775 --> 00:51:24,429
Wu-Tang is for the children.
1092
00:51:24,516 --> 00:51:26,344
We teach the children.
You know what I mean?
1093
00:51:26,474 --> 00:51:30,087
Puffy is good,
but Wu-Tang is the best, okay?
1094
00:51:30,217 --> 00:51:32,001
I want y'all to know
that this is ODB
1095
00:51:32,132 --> 00:51:35,135
and I love you all!
Peace!
1096
00:51:35,179 --> 00:51:38,007
He came back straight
to the house,
1097
00:51:38,138 --> 00:51:40,227
and he said,
"Am I gonna get in trouble?"
1098
00:51:40,314 --> 00:51:42,316
"No," I said,
"You'll probably be
1099
00:51:42,403 --> 00:51:44,492
the biggest draw in the world
for the next 48 hours."
1100
00:51:44,579 --> 00:51:46,581
That never left me --
1101
00:51:46,668 --> 00:51:48,714
like, that statement
and that moment.
1102
00:51:48,844 --> 00:51:50,585
I was just like...
1103
00:51:50,672 --> 00:51:52,631
He was a genius
with those kind of moments
1104
00:51:52,718 --> 00:51:54,807
when everybody else
was still scared.
1105
00:51:54,850 --> 00:51:56,939
After the Grammys,
everybody was going crazy.
1106
00:51:57,070 --> 00:51:58,463
It worked.
1107
00:51:58,593 --> 00:52:00,117
U-God:
It was plastered all over
1108
00:52:00,204 --> 00:52:03,120
every...news channel
across America.
1109
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:08,255
We got Ol' Dirty Bastard here.
He was the big star of
1110
00:52:08,386 --> 00:52:10,301
the Grammys last night. Took
over the whole...damn thing.
1111
00:52:10,344 --> 00:52:12,259
Yeah, wasn't
even scheduled.
1112
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:13,565
I didn't mean no disrespect.
You know? I just had to --
1113
00:52:13,652 --> 00:52:15,349
You had to say
what you had to say.
1114
00:52:15,436 --> 00:52:17,830
I was actually looking out
for all rap artists.
1115
00:52:17,917 --> 00:52:21,007
Jacobson: When he walked up
on stage at the Grammys,
1116
00:52:21,094 --> 00:52:25,098
that was a bad look
for a major label.
1117
00:52:25,229 --> 00:52:27,274
There was not a lot
of keeping him in check.
1118
00:52:27,361 --> 00:52:30,495
Like, this is not
how you can behave.
1119
00:52:30,625 --> 00:52:32,801
The label was concerned
with business --
1120
00:52:32,932 --> 00:52:35,064
making money from him
and his career.
1121
00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:38,242
I don't know that they really
cared about his well-being.
1122
00:52:38,329 --> 00:52:40,461
♪♪
1123
00:52:40,548 --> 00:52:42,768
Rifkind: He would literally come
to my record-company office
1124
00:52:42,898 --> 00:52:44,857
twice a week -- with a record
out, not a record out --
1125
00:52:44,987 --> 00:52:46,598
so he could just relax.
1126
00:52:46,728 --> 00:52:48,643
I don't know if that was
the drugs, the drinking,
1127
00:52:48,730 --> 00:52:51,646
the pressure of his wife,
baby mama.
1128
00:52:51,733 --> 00:52:53,344
I thought it was some paranoia,
1129
00:52:53,474 --> 00:52:55,911
but he was really having
real issues.
1130
00:52:55,998 --> 00:53:00,264
ODB: I need help.
I need help.
1131
00:53:00,351 --> 00:53:01,830
The government is after me.
1132
00:53:01,917 --> 00:53:03,223
[ Giggles ]
1133
00:53:03,354 --> 00:53:05,007
Rifkind:
Well, I call some people,
1134
00:53:05,138 --> 00:53:06,922
and that's when I realized
1135
00:53:07,009 --> 00:53:09,316
the cops -- they were
definitely looking at him.
1136
00:53:44,177 --> 00:53:47,180
♪
1137
00:53:47,267 --> 00:53:50,575
Touré:
NYPD had a task force
1138
00:53:50,705 --> 00:53:53,795
that we called
the Hip-Hop Police.
1139
00:53:53,882 --> 00:53:55,710
They tried to keep tabs
1140
00:53:55,797 --> 00:53:58,278
on where all the rappers
were going,
1141
00:53:58,365 --> 00:54:00,237
as if they were some
1142
00:54:00,411 --> 00:54:03,718
organized-crime syndicate
or something.
1143
00:54:03,849 --> 00:54:05,894
Choke No Joke: If they know Ol'
Dirty Bastard you got a show,
1144
00:54:05,981 --> 00:54:07,679
they gonna follow him
from his house
1145
00:54:07,766 --> 00:54:09,463
and they're gonna pull him over
1146
00:54:09,594 --> 00:54:13,250
hoping to catch guns,
this, that, and the other.
1147
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:17,254
Dirt was one of them guys like,
"Yo. The government is on us.
1148
00:54:17,341 --> 00:54:19,125
They gonna try to kill me
like this.
1149
00:54:19,256 --> 00:54:20,909
They gonna try to kill me
like that."
1150
00:54:20,996 --> 00:54:24,043
I didn't take it
as really like...
1151
00:54:24,173 --> 00:54:26,175
Fernando: People think
that Dirty was kind of crazy,
1152
00:54:26,306 --> 00:54:29,396
and drugs were making him
paranoid or whatever,
1153
00:54:29,483 --> 00:54:32,399
but he actually did have
a legitimate concern
1154
00:54:32,573 --> 00:54:34,227
that the feds were after him.
1155
00:54:34,358 --> 00:54:38,231
He knew that he was on the radar
of law enforcement.
1156
00:54:38,318 --> 00:54:40,625
It turned out
that he was correct.
1157
00:54:40,755 --> 00:54:45,717
There's a 95-page FBI file
on Wu-Tang.
1158
00:54:45,804 --> 00:54:47,719
They were being investigated
1159
00:54:47,762 --> 00:54:50,591
for racketeering and gun-running
and all this stuff.
1160
00:54:50,635 --> 00:54:52,811
And all of this came out
years later.
1161
00:54:52,898 --> 00:54:56,336
They had been following Wu-Tang
for years.
1162
00:54:56,423 --> 00:54:59,339
A generation ago,
the counterintelligence program
1163
00:54:59,426 --> 00:55:01,472
did the same thing
to the Black Panther Party,
1164
00:55:01,602 --> 00:55:03,996
the same thing to
the Student Nonviolent
Coordinating Committee.
1165
00:55:04,083 --> 00:55:07,042
Did the same thing to Malcolm X,
to Martin Luther King.
1166
00:55:07,173 --> 00:55:10,394
The Hip-Hop Police
are the latest incarnation
1167
00:55:10,524 --> 00:55:13,266
of that surveilling
influential Black folks
1168
00:55:13,397 --> 00:55:16,400
that might attract a following
and doing whatever they can
1169
00:55:16,487 --> 00:55:19,490
to destroy those individuals
and those organizations.
1170
00:55:19,664 --> 00:55:22,144
If you a Black man,
you only got an opportunity
to rise but so far.
1171
00:55:22,275 --> 00:55:25,017
They only give you so much
power. Know what I'm saying?
1172
00:55:25,104 --> 00:55:27,149
But then they snatch it
right out from under your feet.
1173
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,630
Dirt was ahead of his time
on that...
1174
00:55:29,717 --> 00:55:33,547
Fernando:
In the years 1998 to 1999,
1175
00:55:33,634 --> 00:55:36,724
he really started
getting into trouble a lot.
1176
00:55:36,898 --> 00:55:38,813
All of these charges --
1177
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,250
possession of drugs,
petty larceny,
1178
00:55:41,294 --> 00:55:44,645
wearing a bulletproof vest.
1179
00:55:44,819 --> 00:55:46,821
You know, he was shot twice.
1180
00:55:46,908 --> 00:55:49,346
He had to drive himself
to the hospital both times.
1181
00:55:49,433 --> 00:55:51,783
So, after that,
he's kind of paranoid
1182
00:55:51,913 --> 00:55:55,743
that people are gunning for him.
1183
00:55:55,830 --> 00:55:58,006
When he started his career,
the press, you know,
1184
00:55:58,137 --> 00:56:00,008
was very much on his side.
1185
00:56:00,095 --> 00:56:01,880
These same members of the press
1186
00:56:01,967 --> 00:56:06,711
covered his arrests
and his drug use.
1187
00:56:06,841 --> 00:56:09,540
Let's go. Ain't
nobody no mother...
amateur here. Let's go.
1188
00:56:09,627 --> 00:56:13,108
I think
he felt attacked.
1189
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,155
But I know that...
1190
00:56:16,285 --> 00:56:18,026
And I know
that damn well
1191
00:56:18,113 --> 00:56:21,421
we are somepartying mother...
1192
00:56:21,552 --> 00:56:24,163
It's impossible
to know what begets what.
1193
00:56:24,293 --> 00:56:26,600
If you don't like
how you're being portrayed
1194
00:56:26,731 --> 00:56:30,778
and then you get high
to lessen the negativity,
1195
00:56:30,865 --> 00:56:32,824
it's like a vicious cycle.
1196
00:56:32,954 --> 00:56:37,350
That can really color
someone's self-image.
1197
00:56:37,481 --> 00:56:39,265
When I look back at that
Howard Stern interview,
1198
00:56:39,439 --> 00:56:41,180
he was actually humble.
1199
00:56:41,310 --> 00:56:43,008
-Did you hear about that?
-No. What happened?
1200
00:56:43,095 --> 00:56:44,749
You saved a little girl's life
the other day, didn't you?
1201
00:56:44,879 --> 00:56:46,751
Yes.
1202
00:56:49,231 --> 00:56:50,972
Divine: It wasn't anything,
like, special.
1203
00:56:51,059 --> 00:56:53,584
You know, it was a kid
in trouble. You helped them.
1204
00:56:53,714 --> 00:56:55,586
Maati:
It was a Saturday morning.
1205
00:56:55,629 --> 00:56:58,458
I was trying to teach
my oldest sister how to shop.
1206
00:56:58,502 --> 00:57:01,461
I was a young child.
I was only four years old.
1207
00:57:01,548 --> 00:57:04,246
They were standing
in front of the van.
1208
00:57:04,333 --> 00:57:07,206
The car came
from out of nowhere.
1209
00:57:07,336 --> 00:57:09,208
Divine:
I was in the office.
1210
00:57:09,338 --> 00:57:11,384
You hear the collision.
You hear the accident go on.
1211
00:57:11,515 --> 00:57:12,951
[ Glass shatters ]
1212
00:57:13,081 --> 00:57:14,474
Maati was nowhere.
I couldn't find her.
1213
00:57:14,605 --> 00:57:16,171
And I kept saying,
"Where's my daughter?
1214
00:57:16,302 --> 00:57:17,912
Where's my daughter?
Where's my daughter?"
1215
00:57:18,043 --> 00:57:20,175
And everybody said,
"Under the car."
1216
00:57:20,306 --> 00:57:23,004
When I bent down,
all I saw was her.
1217
00:57:23,048 --> 00:57:25,485
And she wasn't crying.
She wasn't screaming.
1218
00:57:25,572 --> 00:57:28,140
But when she saw me,
then she screamed.
1219
00:57:28,227 --> 00:57:31,535
I remember, like, bits
and pieces of the accident.
1220
00:57:31,578 --> 00:57:33,493
I remember the heat.
1221
00:57:33,580 --> 00:57:37,366
From out of nowhere,
ODB lifted the car.
1222
00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:40,152
He's literally trying to lift up
the car by himself immediately.
1223
00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:41,893
We help him lift the car,
1224
00:57:42,067 --> 00:57:44,678
and he brings the girl out
from under the car.
1225
00:57:44,852 --> 00:57:46,463
She had a coat on,
1226
00:57:46,593 --> 00:57:50,336
and the coat
was burned through,
1227
00:57:50,423 --> 00:57:53,992
and her leg was burnt.
1228
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,690
I remember being rushed
into the hospital.
1229
00:57:56,777 --> 00:57:58,866
[ Siren wails ]
1230
00:57:58,997 --> 00:58:01,521
Dirty went to the hospital
to go check on the girl.
1231
00:58:01,608 --> 00:58:03,088
He kept checking.
1232
00:58:03,175 --> 00:58:05,394
He didn't just
leave it like that.
1233
00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:07,875
And I told him, "Anytime
you need to talk, call me."
1234
00:58:07,919 --> 00:58:10,182
So he would call me
and tell me things
1235
00:58:10,312 --> 00:58:12,706
that were on his head, you
know, and he was glad
that he was there.
1236
00:58:12,793 --> 00:58:15,970
I think he was trying to prove
that he was a good guy.
1237
00:58:16,057 --> 00:58:18,277
And I said,
"I agree with that."
1238
00:58:18,364 --> 00:58:20,714
You definitely
helped my child.
1239
00:58:20,845 --> 00:58:24,370
It shows what type
of person he is, you know?
1240
00:58:24,457 --> 00:58:26,154
I got an album coming out.
1241
00:58:26,241 --> 00:58:27,678
It's called
"The Black Man is God."
1242
00:58:27,808 --> 00:58:29,941
Next album.
This is for the children.
1243
00:58:30,071 --> 00:58:32,683
Just make sure you get
a good education, school.
1244
00:58:32,857 --> 00:58:34,380
You ain't got to
tell your teacher off.
1245
00:58:34,467 --> 00:58:35,990
Tell that teacher off
with education.
1246
00:58:36,121 --> 00:58:37,644
Know what I'm saying?
Bomb his ass.
1247
00:58:37,731 --> 00:58:39,820
Know what I'm saying?
White devil...
1248
00:58:39,907 --> 00:58:43,258
Yo, but, um, you know,
when I say white devil,
1249
00:58:43,345 --> 00:58:46,479
I'm just saying that, you know,
you got some good devils,
you got some bad devils.
1250
00:58:46,653 --> 00:58:49,177
It's like you got some
good Black men, you got
some Black devil men.
1251
00:58:49,264 --> 00:58:51,615
Know what I'm saying?
...Black man is God.
1252
00:58:51,702 --> 00:58:53,878
We know that the white man
came from the Black man.
1253
00:58:53,965 --> 00:58:56,663
So we created the devil.
So we know that --
1254
00:58:56,794 --> 00:58:58,752
[ Speaking indistinctly ]
1255
00:58:58,883 --> 00:59:02,321
Fernando: Dirty's second album
was supposed to be
1256
00:59:02,451 --> 00:59:06,543
called "The Black Man is God,
The White man is the Devil."
1257
00:59:06,673 --> 00:59:09,937
And, of course, the record
company didn't allow that.
1258
00:59:10,068 --> 00:59:14,028
The second album
was not nearly as popular.
1259
00:59:14,115 --> 00:59:16,901
He didn't promote it as heavily.
1260
00:59:17,031 --> 00:59:19,643
I don't think it sold very well.
1261
00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:24,038
We did interviews, but there
wasn't the crossover press.
1262
00:59:24,082 --> 00:59:26,780
He almost became
like a caricature.
1263
00:59:26,824 --> 00:59:33,178
♪
1264
00:59:33,308 --> 00:59:35,615
He's all over TV.
He's everywhere.
1265
00:59:35,702 --> 00:59:38,183
Slowly but surely,
he became somebody else
1266
00:59:38,357 --> 00:59:40,751
and he started living out
Ol' Dirty Bastard
1267
00:59:40,838 --> 00:59:44,102
more than Unique Ason --
to me, in my eyes.
1268
00:59:45,799 --> 00:59:47,714
We can hear him,
but we couldn't see him.
1269
00:59:47,845 --> 00:59:50,804
He became so distant sometimes
that it's like,
1270
00:59:50,978 --> 00:59:53,111
"Dang, we hear our father
through the radio
1271
00:59:53,198 --> 00:59:56,418
more than we can even
share time with him."
1272
00:59:56,593 --> 00:59:59,987
♪
1273
01:00:00,074 --> 01:00:04,122
Aisha: I hated seeing him high.
I hated that part.
1274
01:00:06,037 --> 01:00:09,301
He was still there, and he was
still aware, of course,
1275
01:00:09,431 --> 01:00:12,173
but I hated seeing him
like that.
1276
01:00:12,260 --> 01:00:13,958
♪♪
1277
01:00:14,045 --> 01:00:18,353
The drug use --
it took away my older brother
1278
01:00:18,484 --> 01:00:20,486
to a different place.
1279
01:00:20,617 --> 01:00:22,619
♪
1280
01:00:22,662 --> 01:00:25,883
I started to, like,
grow a dislike
1281
01:00:25,970 --> 01:00:28,233
for my other cousins because...
1282
01:00:28,276 --> 01:00:33,455
♪
1283
01:00:33,586 --> 01:00:35,675
He was having a tough time
1284
01:00:35,806 --> 01:00:39,200
adapting to this new world
that he's in.
1285
01:00:39,331 --> 01:00:41,028
Icelene: He was getting
all this money and stuff.
1286
01:00:41,115 --> 01:00:42,595
And he was around people
1287
01:00:42,726 --> 01:00:44,466
that was getting high
all the time.
1288
01:00:44,597 --> 01:00:46,468
Raekwon: He thought if you were
getting high with him
1289
01:00:46,555 --> 01:00:48,209
and drinking with him
or whatever
1290
01:00:48,296 --> 01:00:50,864
that you was his friend.
1291
01:00:50,951 --> 01:00:54,694
He was using weed all the time,
smoking marijuana.
1292
01:00:54,781 --> 01:00:56,174
And it started from that.
1293
01:00:56,261 --> 01:00:57,828
And then he would mix
cocaine with it.
1294
01:00:57,871 --> 01:00:59,612
Then it got to the point
where he was mixing
1295
01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:01,875
crack cocaine with it.
1296
01:01:02,006 --> 01:01:04,269
Raekwon: He was looking
at the Wu sideways.
1297
01:01:04,399 --> 01:01:07,098
He was probably looking at his
own family members sideways.
1298
01:01:07,185 --> 01:01:09,317
He was looking at his circle
1299
01:01:09,404 --> 01:01:11,406
that he was hanging with
sideways.
1300
01:01:11,493 --> 01:01:13,495
He didn't know
who to trust anymore.
1301
01:01:13,582 --> 01:01:16,455
Everybody around him
became a yes-man
1302
01:01:16,498 --> 01:01:18,239
because they're looking at
what they could get from him.
1303
01:01:18,370 --> 01:01:20,372
They ain't looking
at if they're hurting him.
1304
01:01:20,415 --> 01:01:22,766
They're only looking at,
"If I need to ask Dirty
with something,
1305
01:01:22,853 --> 01:01:24,245
he gonna give it to me."
1306
01:01:24,332 --> 01:01:25,507
Especially when he high.
1307
01:01:40,827 --> 01:01:42,960
[ Chuckles ]
1308
01:01:43,047 --> 01:01:45,397
Icelene: He needed help. I kept
trying to get him in programs.
1309
01:01:45,484 --> 01:01:48,313
You know, he just didn't want --
he didn't want to do it.
1310
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,013
I think the drugs
changed him mentally.
1311
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:57,322
I don't know
who that was sometimes.
1312
01:01:57,409 --> 01:02:00,891
Drugs took him out of him.
Unique was lost.
1313
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,898
I don't know what I'm drinkin.
1314
01:02:22,129 --> 01:02:24,958
Raekwon: You ever heard
that record "Sideshow"?
1315
01:02:25,045 --> 01:02:28,875
It's about a clown
that makes everybody happy.
1316
01:02:29,006 --> 01:02:32,226
Every time I look at Dirty,
I think about that record.
1317
01:02:32,313 --> 01:02:34,315
My man going through so much,
1318
01:02:34,446 --> 01:02:37,188
but to the world,
he's that clown face.
1319
01:02:37,318 --> 01:02:40,321
When he's by himself,
he's going through it.
1320
01:02:40,408 --> 01:02:42,584
♪♪
1321
01:02:42,715 --> 01:02:46,110
The label pivoted away because
he became almost a liability.
1322
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,634
♪
1323
01:02:48,721 --> 01:02:50,549
Bain: He was cast aside
1324
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:53,073
by the same folks
who embraced him
1325
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,772
when he put his soul
on the line through his music.
1326
01:02:57,948 --> 01:02:59,906
We know this country
has had a love affair
1327
01:03:00,037 --> 01:03:02,300
with Black pain and suffering
since its beginning.
1328
01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:05,912
Folks would gather
around lynchings after church
1329
01:03:05,999 --> 01:03:08,480
to watch Black bodies
hung from trees.
1330
01:03:10,221 --> 01:03:12,614
ODB was a part of that spectacle
1331
01:03:12,701 --> 01:03:14,486
of Black pain,
of Black suffering.
1332
01:03:15,835 --> 01:03:17,402
Jacobson:
They wanted to report on him
1333
01:03:17,445 --> 01:03:19,491
because it was kind of
like a car crash.
1334
01:03:19,578 --> 01:03:20,971
You couldn't look away.
1335
01:03:21,101 --> 01:03:22,755
I'm just hearing these stories,
1336
01:03:22,886 --> 01:03:25,758
and the stories are coming
fast and furious.
1337
01:03:25,932 --> 01:03:28,456
He broke into somebody's
apartment at 3:00 a.m.,
1338
01:03:28,587 --> 01:03:30,241
got shot.
1339
01:03:30,371 --> 01:03:32,721
Fernando Jr.:
Dirty missed his court dates,
1340
01:03:32,852 --> 01:03:35,594
and he was put in rehab.
1341
01:03:35,681 --> 01:03:37,465
All of a sudden,
it was in the news
1342
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:41,774
that Dirty was on the run,
that he had escaped from rehab.
1343
01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,776
Man: Let's make some noise...
1344
01:03:43,907 --> 01:03:45,560
[ Crowd cheering ]
1345
01:03:45,691 --> 01:03:47,954
Fernando Jr.:
The Wu was giving a big concert.
1346
01:03:48,128 --> 01:03:49,521
♪
1347
01:03:49,608 --> 01:03:51,218
In the middle of the show,
1348
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:52,872
RZA, like,
quiets everything down.
1349
01:03:53,003 --> 01:03:55,309
He's like,
"Yo, we got a special guest."
1350
01:03:55,396 --> 01:03:57,877
The first time
in three years
1351
01:03:57,964 --> 01:04:01,881
we see the whole
Wu-Tang Clan on stage tonight.
1352
01:04:02,012 --> 01:04:04,623
Raekwon: I could tell that
he didn't want to be there.
1353
01:04:04,753 --> 01:04:08,148
He felt he had to because
he didn't want to let us down.
1354
01:04:18,028 --> 01:04:21,335
[ Crowd cheers ]
1355
01:04:21,466 --> 01:04:23,772
Fernando Jr.:
I think they caught
him a couple days after that
1356
01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:25,949
at the McDonald's in Philly.
1357
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:28,777
Apparently, one of the arresting
officers was a fan of his,
1358
01:04:28,908 --> 01:04:31,258
so he knew it was ODB.
1359
01:04:31,345 --> 01:04:33,565
You know, what can you do
when you're a superstar
1360
01:04:33,652 --> 01:04:35,654
and everyone knows
that you're on the lam?
1361
01:04:35,741 --> 01:04:39,266
So they got him that time,
unfortunately.
1362
01:04:39,397 --> 01:04:41,225
[ Cell door slams ]
1363
01:04:41,355 --> 01:04:44,315
♪
1364
01:04:44,445 --> 01:04:48,972
Bain: I think rehabilitation
in prisons is a complete joke.
1365
01:04:49,059 --> 01:04:53,672
It's never truly been
one of the goals.
1366
01:04:53,846 --> 01:04:58,372
I was charged with a felony
and spent time in prison.
1367
01:04:58,459 --> 01:05:00,070
The feeling
that I remember having
1368
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,810
is, like, constantly
watching my back
1369
01:05:01,941 --> 01:05:04,901
and fearing for my life.
1370
01:05:04,988 --> 01:05:06,772
You just have no idea
where you're going,
1371
01:05:06,859 --> 01:05:08,426
what's gonna happen.
1372
01:05:08,556 --> 01:05:10,558
♪
1373
01:05:10,645 --> 01:05:13,039
The sense of violation
is what I felt
1374
01:05:13,213 --> 01:05:16,042
when these cops
had their hands on me,
1375
01:05:16,173 --> 01:05:19,002
taking me into the facility
and just moving me around.
1376
01:05:19,089 --> 01:05:21,308
♪♪
1377
01:05:21,395 --> 01:05:23,049
A lack of bodily autonomy,
1378
01:05:23,180 --> 01:05:27,401
lack of my own free will
to do what I want to do.
1379
01:05:27,445 --> 01:05:30,274
They tell you to strip, and they
tell you take off your clothes,
1380
01:05:30,404 --> 01:05:33,668
and they go through
this whole ritual.
1381
01:05:33,755 --> 01:05:35,235
In a room full of folks,
1382
01:05:35,366 --> 01:05:36,802
being told
to take your clothes off,
1383
01:05:36,889 --> 01:05:40,066
"Bend over, open your...
lift your..."
1384
01:05:40,197 --> 01:05:42,721
I mean, it's some...up...
1385
01:05:42,808 --> 01:05:45,071
The brutality, the inhumanity,
1386
01:05:45,202 --> 01:05:48,248
how degrading
and dehumanizing it is.
1387
01:05:48,379 --> 01:05:51,121
That never leaves you.
You know? That stays with you.
1388
01:05:53,819 --> 01:05:55,995
Icelene:
He's off the street now.
1389
01:05:56,126 --> 01:05:58,432
But jail is not a place
for him to be.
1390
01:05:58,563 --> 01:06:01,131
He just needed help
from the drugs,
1391
01:06:01,261 --> 01:06:02,959
and they were just
putting him in jail.
1392
01:06:04,264 --> 01:06:05,744
Taniqua:
He was in Clinton.
1393
01:06:05,831 --> 01:06:08,660
That's where rapists,
murderers was at.
1394
01:06:08,747 --> 01:06:10,662
Y'all got this person
that's self-medicating
1395
01:06:10,792 --> 01:06:13,317
and put him up here.
1396
01:06:13,447 --> 01:06:15,493
Icelene: It was just hard
being without your husband.
1397
01:06:15,580 --> 01:06:17,234
We had to make it back
and forth to see him.
1398
01:06:17,364 --> 01:06:19,279
I was working two jobs.
1399
01:06:19,410 --> 01:06:21,586
It affected me
and my children a lot,
1400
01:06:21,716 --> 01:06:23,283
especially my oldest daughter.
1401
01:06:23,370 --> 01:06:26,199
She just wanted her dad
to be home.
1402
01:06:26,286 --> 01:06:29,072
Once, when we went up there,
he was just quiet.
1403
01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:30,987
He didn't say nothing.
1404
01:06:31,117 --> 01:06:33,119
He got up,
and he went in the bathroom,
1405
01:06:33,293 --> 01:06:34,903
and he started screaming.
1406
01:06:34,991 --> 01:06:36,470
Just started screaming.
1407
01:06:39,299 --> 01:06:40,909
Being in prison,
anything could happen,
1408
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,433
so I don't know
what was going on with him.
1409
01:06:42,476 --> 01:06:44,304
Something was off.
1410
01:06:44,391 --> 01:06:47,264
♪ Energy building,
taking all types of medicines ♪
1411
01:06:47,394 --> 01:06:49,701
♪ Your ass thought
you were better than Ason? ♪
1412
01:06:49,831 --> 01:06:52,965
♪
1413
01:06:53,052 --> 01:06:54,880
True Master: He's complaining
that they was injecting him
1414
01:06:54,967 --> 01:06:56,882
with...in jail.
1415
01:06:56,969 --> 01:07:00,625
Those drugs, you know,
the so-called legal drugs,
1416
01:07:00,712 --> 01:07:02,061
...him up, too.
1417
01:07:02,148 --> 01:07:03,758
We see over and over again
1418
01:07:03,889 --> 01:07:05,760
this range
of mental-health drugs
1419
01:07:05,847 --> 01:07:08,546
used to sedate and control folks
who are in prisons.
1420
01:07:08,633 --> 01:07:11,375
It's not by accident.
It's by design.
1421
01:07:11,505 --> 01:07:13,942
He used to say, "People
want to kill me in here.
1422
01:07:14,030 --> 01:07:15,770
The government is gonna kill me.
1423
01:07:15,814 --> 01:07:18,860
The correctional officers
are gonna kill me."
1424
01:07:18,947 --> 01:07:22,473
Prison really
added on that paranoia.
1425
01:07:22,516 --> 01:07:24,083
He shut down more.
1426
01:07:24,214 --> 01:07:26,346
The government
finally got to him.
1427
01:07:26,433 --> 01:07:29,741
I heard that
it was schizophrenic.
1428
01:07:29,915 --> 01:07:32,178
He ended up in the psych ward.
1429
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:35,790
He had lit his back on fire
just to get out of prison.
1430
01:07:35,921 --> 01:07:38,619
I feel like,
for you to go that far,
1431
01:07:38,793 --> 01:07:42,188
you have to have some type
of mental disorder.
1432
01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:44,843
Icelene: It was hard knowing
that he was in there like that.
1433
01:07:44,930 --> 01:07:46,758
He always knew that we were home
1434
01:07:46,845 --> 01:07:48,586
'cause the only
real grounding he had
1435
01:07:48,673 --> 01:07:52,285
was what he made
with me and those children.
1436
01:07:52,459 --> 01:07:54,418
He didn't want to come back
into the industry.
1437
01:07:54,505 --> 01:07:56,202
He didn't want to be
a rapper anymore.
1438
01:07:56,333 --> 01:07:58,378
He didn't want
to come back to music.
1439
01:07:58,465 --> 01:08:00,424
I was surprised
when he came back.
1440
01:08:13,001 --> 01:08:14,829
Fernando Jr.:
Dirty did three years upstate
1441
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,136
at the Clinton facility.
1442
01:08:17,223 --> 01:08:20,008
He basically
had to set himself on fire
1443
01:08:20,139 --> 01:08:22,881
to get into
solitary confinement.
1444
01:08:28,974 --> 01:08:32,499
Ross: He had one commodity --
himself.
1445
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:37,374
So his only ways to make money
were to try to make music.
1446
01:08:39,202 --> 01:08:42,379
I'm not even working
for Roc-A-Fella on this day.
1447
01:08:42,466 --> 01:08:44,555
I just know that Ol' Dirty
Bastard's coming home from jail.
1448
01:08:44,598 --> 01:08:46,296
I'm gonna get that footage.
1449
01:08:46,426 --> 01:08:50,212
[ Indistinct conversations ]
1450
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:54,086
A white guy named Jarred
was managing Ol' Dirty Bastard.
1451
01:08:54,216 --> 01:08:56,131
I don't know how,
1452
01:08:56,261 --> 01:09:00,397
but Jarred and Dame talked
about signing Ol' Dirty Bastard.
1453
01:09:00,484 --> 01:09:02,312
[ Indistinct conversations ]
1454
01:09:05,314 --> 01:09:07,099
Funkmaster Flex:
Dame Dash and Roc-A-Fella
1455
01:09:07,185 --> 01:09:09,580
was the worst thing
to ever happen to that guy.
1456
01:09:09,667 --> 01:09:12,017
Ol' Dirty was a trophy to them.
1457
01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:13,758
♪
1458
01:09:18,502 --> 01:09:20,852
I got to introduce myself?
1459
01:09:20,939 --> 01:09:23,376
I'm used to getting
the introduction.
1460
01:09:23,462 --> 01:09:25,029
You know. I'm Damon Dash.
1461
01:09:25,203 --> 01:09:27,554
I always wanted
to work with Wu-Tang.
1462
01:09:27,598 --> 01:09:31,470
When the opportunity presented
itself, I capitalized.
1463
01:09:31,558 --> 01:09:33,908
Choke No Joke:
Dame is trying to build
1464
01:09:33,995 --> 01:09:37,216
the roster for Roc-A-Fella.
1465
01:09:37,346 --> 01:09:40,219
All Dame thinking about
is "publicity."
1466
01:09:40,305 --> 01:09:42,787
He signed M.O.P., N.O.R.E.
1467
01:09:42,917 --> 01:09:45,050
He trying to get Twista.
He just signed Kanye.
1468
01:09:45,180 --> 01:09:46,660
Dash:
I was just trying to speak
1469
01:09:46,747 --> 01:09:49,488
in every single language
that anybody spoke.
1470
01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:51,055
It was, like, diversifying.
1471
01:09:51,187 --> 01:09:53,014
It was a different
language and lingo.
1472
01:09:53,145 --> 01:09:54,712
With MC in the back, we're not
allowed to talk about it.
1473
01:09:54,799 --> 01:09:56,279
I don't know why.
You know what I'm saying?
1474
01:09:56,409 --> 01:09:58,498
Carey: Dame called me.
1475
01:09:58,585 --> 01:10:00,283
He's like, "I really need you
to go with me to pick him up.
1476
01:10:00,370 --> 01:10:03,416
Like, this is an important
moment, and let's do this."
1477
01:10:03,503 --> 01:10:06,332
And I'm like, "Yeah, you don't
have to ask me more than once.
1478
01:10:06,463 --> 01:10:07,812
I got it. Let's go."
1479
01:10:07,899 --> 01:10:09,988
[ Indistinct conversations ]
1480
01:10:10,075 --> 01:10:12,382
Choke No Joke: He's surprised
by Mariah Carey's presence,
1481
01:10:12,425 --> 01:10:14,471
surprised by Dame's presence.
1482
01:10:14,558 --> 01:10:17,474
He has no clue what's going on.
1483
01:10:17,517 --> 01:10:20,128
He don't even know that
he's signing to Roc-A-Fella.
1484
01:10:20,259 --> 01:10:21,565
Jarred!
1485
01:10:21,739 --> 01:10:23,175
What -- Who --
1486
01:10:23,306 --> 01:10:26,613
Damon Dash.
What's the deal with that?
1487
01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:27,962
You going to him now.
1488
01:10:28,049 --> 01:10:30,008
Man:
He's in front of us.
1489
01:10:30,138 --> 01:10:32,097
I'm saying -- So --You're going
to a restaurant right now.
1490
01:10:32,140 --> 01:10:33,794
You planning a surprise
or something? [ Laughs ]
1491
01:10:33,838 --> 01:10:36,667
Woman: Yeah.
1492
01:10:36,754 --> 01:10:40,671
He was like a different person
when we picked him up that day.
1493
01:10:40,758 --> 01:10:42,368
[ Indistinct conversations ]
1494
01:10:42,499 --> 01:10:45,632
I felt, like,
this confusion/sadness
1495
01:10:45,719 --> 01:10:47,547
coming from him.
1496
01:10:47,591 --> 01:10:50,158
[ Indistinct conversations ]
1497
01:10:50,289 --> 01:10:51,725
You know I got to do it
official, give him a chain.
1498
01:10:51,856 --> 01:10:54,162
He can't go home
without that.
1499
01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:56,469
[ Cheers and applause ]
1500
01:10:56,513 --> 01:10:59,516
"I'm down with Roc-A-Fella.
Yeah, I'm rolling with Damon."
1501
01:10:59,646 --> 01:11:02,214
They don't give a...
about Ol' Dirty Bastard.
1502
01:11:02,258 --> 01:11:03,650
It was a business deal.
1503
01:11:03,781 --> 01:11:07,524
[ Cheers and applause ]
1504
01:11:07,698 --> 01:11:09,787
Next question.Man: Right here.
1505
01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:13,225
Dame personally signed
Ol' Dirty Bastard
1506
01:11:13,356 --> 01:11:16,010
and gave him a million dollars
out his own pocket.
1507
01:11:16,141 --> 01:11:17,969
A million dollars
isn't a lot of money.
1508
01:11:18,056 --> 01:11:19,623
I think he deserved more.
1509
01:11:19,753 --> 01:11:21,102
You know, based on
the records he sold,
1510
01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:23,104
we would make that back --
let's go.
1511
01:11:23,191 --> 01:11:26,151
I don't know whose idea it was
to sign him.
1512
01:11:26,325 --> 01:11:28,849
You know, if you care
about somebody,
1513
01:11:28,936 --> 01:11:32,418
you know you couldn't give
this guy a million dollars.
1514
01:11:32,505 --> 01:11:34,594
Icelene: The million dollars
is a mystery.
1515
01:11:34,725 --> 01:11:38,032
Me and my children never
received a dime of that money.
1516
01:11:38,163 --> 01:11:41,340
My husband had no idea
what happened to the funds.
1517
01:11:41,427 --> 01:11:44,343
I wish they would have used
some of that money
1518
01:11:44,387 --> 01:11:46,780
to put him in rehab,
to get him some help.
1519
01:11:46,911 --> 01:11:48,434
He was living
with my mother-in-law,
1520
01:11:48,521 --> 01:11:50,741
like, basically
sleeping on her couch.
1521
01:11:50,871 --> 01:11:55,180
And he was back in the same
environment, doing drugs.
1522
01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:58,226
Ross:
You know, Dirty was, I think,
just trying to feed his family.
1523
01:11:58,357 --> 01:12:00,620
But from what I saw,
the show "ODB on Parole" --
1524
01:12:00,751 --> 01:12:03,580
that felt exploitive to me.
1525
01:12:03,710 --> 01:12:05,495
Narrator: This is the story
of Russell Jones,
1526
01:12:05,625 --> 01:12:07,975
a.k.a. Ol' Dirty Bastard.
1527
01:12:08,062 --> 01:12:10,238
'02, '03, '04,
the game had changed.
1528
01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:12,371
The reality-TV shows,
1529
01:12:12,502 --> 01:12:15,156
people giving up
more of their life.
1530
01:12:15,287 --> 01:12:18,899
Come on, Jarred.
[ Laughs ]
1531
01:12:18,986 --> 01:12:21,075
Narrator: While he waited
for his parole hearing,
1532
01:12:21,162 --> 01:12:22,555
he met Jarred Weisfeld,
1533
01:12:22,686 --> 01:12:26,037
a 23-year-old aspiring
hip-hop manager.
1534
01:12:26,167 --> 01:12:28,648
Jarred has done everything.
Everything.
1535
01:12:28,779 --> 01:12:30,737
Without Jarred,
I don't know -- I don't know.
1536
01:12:30,868 --> 01:12:36,134
I am his co-manager --
with his mom, Cherry.
1537
01:12:36,264 --> 01:12:38,049
Icelene: Jarred didn't know
who Unique was.
1538
01:12:38,136 --> 01:12:41,182
Jarred just knew who ODB was
after coming out of jail.
1539
01:12:41,269 --> 01:12:43,837
He only knew him
for a few months.
1540
01:12:43,924 --> 01:12:45,883
He ain't know him long at all.
1541
01:12:50,583 --> 01:12:53,978
Nobody had a conversation
with Wu-Tang.
1542
01:12:54,065 --> 01:12:56,502
We didn't know
what was going on.
1543
01:12:56,589 --> 01:13:00,593
So when he came out and he
wanted to sign to Roc-A-Fella,
1544
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,161
it was almost like...
1545
01:13:03,291 --> 01:13:05,903
"Hm. He feel a way."
1546
01:13:06,033 --> 01:13:07,948
♪
1547
01:13:08,035 --> 01:13:10,081
Ghostface: Dirt was the soul.
I mean, he was the soul.
1548
01:13:10,168 --> 01:13:12,344
Out of the whole group,
he was the soul.
1549
01:13:12,475 --> 01:13:15,391
And when he left,
it was a big loss for us.
1550
01:13:15,521 --> 01:13:17,784
Big, big, big,
big, big, big, big.
1551
01:13:17,871 --> 01:13:20,004
I wasn't even mad at him.
1552
01:13:20,091 --> 01:13:25,270
I felt like...
us as a group let him down.
1553
01:13:25,357 --> 01:13:27,881
We wasn't there the way
we was supposed to be there.
1554
01:13:27,968 --> 01:13:34,758
♪♪
1555
01:13:34,845 --> 01:13:37,238
How you live your
life is how you live your life.
1556
01:13:37,325 --> 01:13:42,330
♪♪
1557
01:13:42,461 --> 01:13:45,290
Drugs was getting him
at that time.
1558
01:13:45,377 --> 01:13:48,641
I know that face,
know that little twitch.
1559
01:13:48,728 --> 01:13:51,252
I saw him a couple times, man.
He didn't feel like him.
1560
01:13:51,383 --> 01:13:53,777
He had put on a lot of weight.
1561
01:13:53,864 --> 01:13:57,476
I never thought anything
was gonna happen to him, though.
1562
01:13:57,563 --> 01:13:59,652
Choke No Joke: I went to
the MTV Awards with him.
1563
01:13:59,783 --> 01:14:01,741
It was his first time
seeing Method Man.
1564
01:14:03,961 --> 01:14:06,050
And I could tell,
looking at Meth,
1565
01:14:06,180 --> 01:14:09,662
he saw that his brother
wasn't the same brother.
1566
01:14:09,793 --> 01:14:11,359
It was like
he was kissing a baby,
1567
01:14:11,490 --> 01:14:12,883
like his little brother.
1568
01:14:13,013 --> 01:14:15,581
It wasn't a grown man.
1569
01:14:15,712 --> 01:14:18,497
Yeah, he -- he was hurt.
Yeah. I'm about to cry.
1570
01:14:18,584 --> 01:14:21,892
[ Indistinct shouting ]
1571
01:14:22,022 --> 01:14:23,850
Chang:
The last time I saw Ason,
1572
01:14:23,981 --> 01:14:26,462
probably one of the...
experiences of my life.
1573
01:14:27,724 --> 01:14:31,510
I was at the 36 Chambers Studio
on 34th.
1574
01:14:31,641 --> 01:14:33,164
They were like,
"Soph, Dirty's here."
1575
01:14:33,251 --> 01:14:34,861
I was like, "Word?"
1576
01:14:34,992 --> 01:14:38,735
Sat down. I just waited
for him to come out.
1577
01:14:38,865 --> 01:14:41,259
He comes out of the bathroom,
1578
01:14:41,346 --> 01:14:44,349
and he kind of looks at me...
1579
01:14:44,436 --> 01:14:46,046
and then just keeps going.
1580
01:14:46,133 --> 01:14:48,875
♪♪
1581
01:14:48,919 --> 01:14:54,794
He was so high,
he didn't...recognize me.
1582
01:14:54,881 --> 01:14:59,103
I left and I got in a cab
and I called the studio.
1583
01:14:59,277 --> 01:15:03,673
And whoever picked up the phone,
I said, "Dirty's high.
1584
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,632
He's...high.
1585
01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:09,243
It's not okay. It's not okay."
1586
01:15:09,374 --> 01:15:11,419
And it was so upsetting.
1587
01:15:11,507 --> 01:15:14,945
♪♪
1588
01:15:15,075 --> 01:15:19,079
Raekwon: "Rock the Bells"
was a big show for us.
1589
01:15:19,166 --> 01:15:22,387
We knew how important it was
for all of us to be there.
1590
01:15:22,474 --> 01:15:25,259
-Turn the lights down!
-Turn the lights off!
1591
01:15:25,390 --> 01:15:28,436
He wouldn't come out
the room that day.
He wouldn't come out the room.
1592
01:15:28,567 --> 01:15:31,004
I remember him up there
on stage with us.
1593
01:15:31,091 --> 01:15:33,137
I think parts of him
were just feeling like,
1594
01:15:33,311 --> 01:15:34,965
"Why the...am I up here?"
1595
01:15:35,095 --> 01:15:38,490
'Cause he realized the group
that he helped become
1596
01:15:38,621 --> 01:15:41,449
one of the greatest groups
in the world --
1597
01:15:41,537 --> 01:15:43,147
He didn't feel the love back.
1598
01:15:43,234 --> 01:15:45,671
[ Vocalizing ]
1599
01:15:45,845 --> 01:15:53,505
♪
1600
01:15:53,636 --> 01:15:55,812
Choke No Joke: None of us
really knew him like that,
1601
01:15:55,899 --> 01:15:58,336
to tell him to do anything.
1602
01:15:58,466 --> 01:16:01,426
He definitely needed family.
1603
01:16:01,557 --> 01:16:04,647
He was in it
because he loved it.
1604
01:16:04,734 --> 01:16:06,213
People that love it like that,
1605
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:10,217
sometime they don't see
that cleaver coming.
1606
01:16:19,357 --> 01:16:21,228
You know, everybody else
in the family remembers
1607
01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:23,317
times they spent
with their pops.
1608
01:16:23,404 --> 01:16:26,582
I only remember the nightmare,
the last night I seen him.
1609
01:16:26,712 --> 01:16:29,454
That's the only real thing
I remember.
1610
01:16:29,541 --> 01:16:33,066
Taniqua: I was at
my father's sister's house,
1611
01:16:33,153 --> 01:16:35,634
and my cousin got a phone call
1612
01:16:35,765 --> 01:16:37,723
from her mom saying,
"Come home."
1613
01:16:37,810 --> 01:16:40,726
I just had this intuition that
something happened to my father.
1614
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:43,642
Like, I don't know why,
but I had this intuition.
1615
01:16:43,729 --> 01:16:45,470
I just started running.
1616
01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:48,081
Icelene: Unique was working
on his last album,
1617
01:16:48,168 --> 01:16:51,128
and Bar-Sun was in the studio
with Unique.
1618
01:16:51,171 --> 01:16:53,652
Right after he left the studio,
Bar-Sun got a call, and it was
1619
01:16:53,739 --> 01:16:56,002
like, "We're trying to
resuscitate him and everything."
1620
01:16:56,089 --> 01:16:58,570
He's like, "What is going on?
He was just alive."
1621
01:16:58,701 --> 01:16:59,919
Taniqua: I was sprinting.
1622
01:17:00,050 --> 01:17:01,747
So, it was about
a two-block run,
1623
01:17:01,834 --> 01:17:03,793
and it was really long blocks
in Brooklyn.
1624
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,838
And then I turned a corner,
and I seen my brother outside
1625
01:17:05,969 --> 01:17:08,232
slumped over but crying,
and I'm like,
1626
01:17:08,362 --> 01:17:10,016
"Bar-Sun, what happened?
Bar-Sun, what happened?"
1627
01:17:10,190 --> 01:17:13,150
The only thing
he could get out was, "Daddy."
1628
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,586
Icelene:
My son called me.
1629
01:17:14,673 --> 01:17:16,283
He said,
"Daddy is not doing so good.
1630
01:17:16,327 --> 01:17:17,850
They're trying
to keep him alive.
1631
01:17:17,981 --> 01:17:19,678
They're trying
to resuscitate him."
1632
01:17:19,765 --> 01:17:21,462
And he's not doing so good.
He might not make it."
1633
01:17:21,549 --> 01:17:26,337
♪♪
1634
01:17:26,424 --> 01:17:28,992
All I'm thinking is,
he's gonna be alive
1635
01:17:29,122 --> 01:17:31,298
'cause he's so strong and
he always get out of everything.
1636
01:17:31,385 --> 01:17:35,259
He's like a person
that has nine lives.
1637
01:17:35,346 --> 01:17:39,089
It was dark. It was raining.
It was just not a good night.
1638
01:17:39,176 --> 01:17:42,005
Taniqua: We get there, and
I remember so much ambulance.
1639
01:17:42,092 --> 01:17:46,618
You could see cops, detectives
outside.
1640
01:17:46,749 --> 01:17:49,926
Go into the studio,
it was a whole crowd of people.
1641
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:51,928
Like, all my family members.
1642
01:17:52,102 --> 01:17:54,104
And I see a white sock
on the floor.
1643
01:17:54,234 --> 01:17:56,497
So I already automatically knew
that was my father.
1644
01:17:56,584 --> 01:17:59,283
Raekwon: I was driving
from Staten Island,
1645
01:17:59,326 --> 01:18:01,546
and I remember getting the call.
1646
01:18:01,677 --> 01:18:03,766
That...broke my heart
when I tell you.
1647
01:18:03,853 --> 01:18:06,377
I pulled over on the bridge.
1648
01:18:06,507 --> 01:18:08,335
Tears was just
running down my face.
1649
01:18:08,422 --> 01:18:09,989
Like, I couldn't
believe it, man.
1650
01:18:10,033 --> 01:18:13,210
I ran up to the studio.
1651
01:18:13,340 --> 01:18:15,168
Seen him laid out on the floor.
1652
01:18:15,342 --> 01:18:23,046
♪
1653
01:18:23,133 --> 01:18:24,787
Ghostface: I'm in shock.
Like, yo, it's my brother.
1654
01:18:24,917 --> 01:18:26,484
You know what I mean?
1655
01:18:26,571 --> 01:18:28,704
I walk over to him, look at him.
1656
01:18:28,791 --> 01:18:32,055
♪♪
1657
01:18:32,185 --> 01:18:34,971
I was there till they took him
out the building.
1658
01:18:35,058 --> 01:18:36,973
Icelene: He was laid there,
and most of the Clan members
1659
01:18:37,103 --> 01:18:39,236
were around, a lot of family.
1660
01:18:39,366 --> 01:18:41,978
They were trying to stop people
from actually going to his body.
1661
01:18:42,065 --> 01:18:46,286
I'm trying to jump over
the police, go under the legs.
1662
01:18:46,417 --> 01:18:48,158
I'm trying to crawl,
and they're pulling me back.
1663
01:18:48,245 --> 01:18:50,334
They let us through,
but they held Bar-Sun
1664
01:18:50,464 --> 01:18:51,857
'cause Bar-Sun was going crazy.
1665
01:18:51,988 --> 01:18:53,990
[Voice breaking] He was --
1666
01:18:54,033 --> 01:18:56,644
That's emotional 'cause...
1667
01:18:56,732 --> 01:18:59,169
he was trying his hardest
to get to his father.
1668
01:18:59,256 --> 01:19:01,562
But he was just, like, really
just acting out real crazy
1669
01:19:01,649 --> 01:19:02,999
like he wanted
to fight everybody.
1670
01:19:03,086 --> 01:19:04,565
He was going crazy.
1671
01:19:04,652 --> 01:19:06,524
You know, I didn't know
why I was mad.
1672
01:19:06,654 --> 01:19:08,961
A child is really not
gonna know why they're mad.
1673
01:19:09,048 --> 01:19:12,225
They just know and feel
that there's something wrong.
1674
01:19:12,356 --> 01:19:14,314
This is just...up.
1675
01:19:14,445 --> 01:19:16,795
You know, to see his father
laying there like this
1676
01:19:16,882 --> 01:19:19,972
and knowing that it could have
probably been prevented.
1677
01:19:20,103 --> 01:19:22,670
You know, I guess I was ready
to fight everybody
1678
01:19:22,801 --> 01:19:25,586
because he was only one
laying on the floor
1679
01:19:25,673 --> 01:19:28,372
and nobody was there
to pick him up.
1680
01:19:28,502 --> 01:19:31,027
I laid down with him,
and I just rubbed his head.
1681
01:19:31,114 --> 01:19:33,856
Teardrops falling off me,
falling onto his cold body.
1682
01:19:33,986 --> 01:19:37,033
And then my mom was on the
other side of him laying down,
1683
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,080
screaming, saying,
"Unique, Unique, wake up."
1684
01:19:41,167 --> 01:19:42,821
I just figured if I could yell
1685
01:19:42,908 --> 01:19:44,867
he could hear me
and he'll wake up.
1686
01:19:44,910 --> 01:19:46,346
We was hitting on him and trying
to pull him up and everything.
1687
01:19:46,477 --> 01:19:48,218
He just wouldn't get up.
1688
01:19:48,392 --> 01:19:50,960
And they kept saying,
"Miss Jones, you know...
1689
01:19:51,090 --> 01:19:53,223
Excuse me. You can't --
You know, he's not coming back."
1690
01:19:53,353 --> 01:19:55,616
And I'm like,
"No, he's gonna come back.
He's gonna wake up.
1691
01:19:55,703 --> 01:19:57,314
And we just didn't want
to leave the floor.
1692
01:19:57,444 --> 01:19:59,969
We kept trying to get him up.
1693
01:20:00,099 --> 01:20:02,798
Taniqua: I just looked up,
and I looked at everybody,
1694
01:20:02,972 --> 01:20:04,712
and I just remember
nobody crying.
1695
01:20:04,843 --> 01:20:07,237
Just us. Just us crying.
1696
01:20:07,367 --> 01:20:10,196
I just -- I was just mad 'cause
everybody just sitting here.
1697
01:20:10,327 --> 01:20:12,546
I didn't understand
why nobody else was crying.
1698
01:20:12,633 --> 01:20:15,375
♪♪
1699
01:20:15,506 --> 01:20:19,423
After it really sunk in,
that he wasn't getting up,
1700
01:20:19,510 --> 01:20:21,729
we -- we got up.
1701
01:20:21,817 --> 01:20:24,515
And me and Taniqua, we was,
like, yelling at everybody,
1702
01:20:24,602 --> 01:20:26,125
like, "...all you...
1703
01:20:26,212 --> 01:20:28,040
Everybody who sat
and got high with him,
1704
01:20:28,127 --> 01:20:31,696
who...took money out his pocket,
who allowed him
1705
01:20:31,739 --> 01:20:33,916
to stay away from his family
while y'all got high.
1706
01:20:34,003 --> 01:20:35,700
He didn't want to come home
1707
01:20:35,787 --> 01:20:37,136
'cause he knew y'all
would...get high with him.
1708
01:20:37,267 --> 01:20:39,008
...all y'all...
...all y'all.
1709
01:20:39,138 --> 01:20:40,574
I don't want nobody coming
around me and my children.
1710
01:20:40,705 --> 01:20:42,881
...y'all. I ain't got
no time for this...
1711
01:20:43,055 --> 01:20:45,144
'Cause that's all y'all want,
is just to see him...high.
1712
01:20:45,275 --> 01:20:47,146
And now look where he at.
1713
01:20:47,277 --> 01:20:49,714
Now he can't give none of
y'all...'cause he gone now."
1714
01:20:55,111 --> 01:21:02,205
♪
1715
01:21:20,614 --> 01:21:23,313
Right now I just feel I've been
robbed. Know what I'm saying?
1716
01:21:23,443 --> 01:21:25,271
Hoodwinked. Bamboozled.
1717
01:21:25,402 --> 01:21:27,099
They stole something
that I love so much.
1718
01:21:27,230 --> 01:21:28,796
Seem like everything I loved
always been --
1719
01:21:28,927 --> 01:21:31,887
always be tooken away from me.
1720
01:21:42,941 --> 01:21:47,467
Carey: My friend and myself
went to the funeral together.
1721
01:21:47,554 --> 01:21:48,904
[ Breathes deeply ]
1722
01:21:49,034 --> 01:21:52,211
It was deep. It was very --
1723
01:21:52,342 --> 01:21:54,344
It was difficult.
1724
01:21:54,474 --> 01:21:58,000
Raekwon: It was surreal
to see him laying in a casket.
1725
01:21:58,087 --> 01:22:00,350
You know, you had brothers
in there drunk, too.
1726
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,440
You know what I mean? You know,
that's how they was coming.
1727
01:22:03,527 --> 01:22:05,181
You know what I mean?
Pouring...on the floor.
1728
01:22:05,268 --> 01:22:07,226
Pouring liquor on the floor.
1729
01:22:07,313 --> 01:22:09,663
It's like, "Yo. Come on, bro.
Chill. Like, please, man.
1730
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:12,449
Like, stop. Not right now."
1731
01:22:12,579 --> 01:22:15,234
♪
1732
01:22:15,321 --> 01:22:18,368
You know, he was the only artist
that ever died on my watch,
1733
01:22:18,455 --> 01:22:21,110
so that was the first time
I ever had to deal with that.
1734
01:22:32,643 --> 01:22:34,123
I'd squeeze him. I'd hug him.
1735
01:22:34,297 --> 01:22:36,777
I'd...kiss him
all over his...face.
1736
01:22:36,908 --> 01:22:40,651
I'd probably sit there and cry
and wouldn't let him go.
1737
01:22:42,435 --> 01:22:44,611
I might fall asleep next to you.
You know what I mean?
1738
01:22:44,655 --> 01:22:47,701
Like, yo, that's what it is when
you love somebody like that.
1739
01:22:47,788 --> 01:22:50,530
You love somebody like --
My love was like that for him.
1740
01:22:50,661 --> 01:22:52,837
It was strong.
1741
01:23:11,725 --> 01:23:13,510
[ Applause ]
1742
01:23:35,271 --> 01:23:37,055
[ Applause ]
1743
01:23:37,186 --> 01:23:42,539
♪
1744
01:23:46,804 --> 01:23:50,938
Icelene: I'm pushing real hard
to keep the legacy going.
1745
01:23:51,026 --> 01:23:52,897
That's all I think about
every day.
1746
01:23:53,028 --> 01:23:57,597
♪
1747
01:23:57,728 --> 01:23:59,773
Taniqua: He's immortal.
That's how I feel.
1748
01:23:59,904 --> 01:24:01,688
I feel like
my father's immortal.
1749
01:24:01,819 --> 01:24:04,952
And he's never gonna die.
1750
01:24:05,083 --> 01:24:09,044
His soul, his spirit,
his essence, his aura.
1751
01:24:09,174 --> 01:24:12,221
It flows around everybody.
1752
01:24:12,351 --> 01:24:14,440
Chang:
He was outrageously talented.
1753
01:24:14,571 --> 01:24:17,748
He behaved
in an outrageous fashion,
1754
01:24:17,878 --> 01:24:20,229
sometimes to his detriment.
1755
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:22,883
But he also, as an artist,
1756
01:24:22,970 --> 01:24:26,322
just embodied who he was
so fully.
1757
01:24:26,452 --> 01:24:29,107
And I don't think you can say
that of a lot of artists.
1758
01:24:29,238 --> 01:24:31,762
♪
1759
01:24:31,892 --> 01:24:34,286
Ross: You know,
Dirty is misinterpreted.
1760
01:24:34,373 --> 01:24:36,810
♪♪
1761
01:24:36,854 --> 01:24:39,639
A segment of culture
want to remember him
1762
01:24:39,770 --> 01:24:42,120
as the guy who jumped on stage
at the Grammys
1763
01:24:42,207 --> 01:24:44,862
or all the crazy...he did
1764
01:24:44,949 --> 01:24:49,127
as opposed to
the great art he created.
1765
01:24:49,258 --> 01:24:51,912
It does him and his legacy
a disservice.
1766
01:24:52,043 --> 01:24:53,958
You know,
a lot of people gravitate
1767
01:24:54,045 --> 01:24:56,482
towards the lower story,
1768
01:24:56,569 --> 01:24:59,616
and it bothers me.
1769
01:24:59,703 --> 01:25:03,315
Sometimes when you push out
too much frequency,
1770
01:25:03,402 --> 01:25:04,490
people don't like that.
1771
01:25:04,621 --> 01:25:06,449
[ Indistinct shouting ]
1772
01:25:06,536 --> 01:25:11,062
And that's...up
because energy is a blessing.
1773
01:25:11,149 --> 01:25:14,979
Aisha: His family gave him
a lot of his strength.
1774
01:25:15,066 --> 01:25:17,895
He spent a lot of time
with his family.
1775
01:25:17,982 --> 01:25:21,725
His work, his children,
his widow.
1776
01:25:21,855 --> 01:25:25,468
His rightful place in Wu-Tang.
1777
01:25:25,598 --> 01:25:27,992
I think that's his legacy.
1778
01:25:45,444 --> 01:25:48,839
ODB: Yo, peace, man.
Ol' Dirty Bas out, man. I'm out.
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