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You catch them ate this I'll buy it
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the rare old Mississippi boot fish I
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caught a few in my time
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long street huh your housekeeper told me
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to look for a fisherman with a white dog
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n-no feet one day I'm gonna fool her my
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name is Fred horn big you know it no
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sorry I don't
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well that makes us even I never heard of
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you for yesterday how'd you like to
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catch me a murderer you serious
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it's you knows how I spent ten years of
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- my time and go a prison for killing I
- never done I'd sail it serious it's
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Hornbeck I'm not a detective I'm an
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insurance investigator we see that's
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fine because if she has an insurance
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case oh I'd say why don't we talk about
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it tomorrow in my office you call my
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secretary sure thanks I call on you
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ain't Ian another game mister
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wait a minute
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mr. Hornbeck thank you
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somebody help anybody
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ah
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How about the colors you see the color
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whether the sedan a convertible looks
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odd I saw a car coming to me about 2,000
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miles an hour and then I was flying over
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the sea men when you figure time
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take notes sorry but I have to ask these
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questions never know what a guy sleeping
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situation like I tell you what do you
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see this you see man started a Oh over
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here someone come by and talk to you in
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the morning if you remember anything
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that won't keep other nurse called
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traffic and asked for officer Grove
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traffic I told the duty officer heard
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that car accelerate that was a weapon
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coming at him didn't run by the book you
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just have a guard of mangola who end of
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the book you love you man he never had
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to think nice he should call his Melton
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there's chair on your eye well thanks I
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hope you're that side yeah did you come
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to help what makes you think I can oh
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nothing but I tried everybody else
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either got put out and thrown out see I
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ain't got no money you said this was an
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insurance case yes sir
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did you ever hear the meet some sugar
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refinery
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well tell about the name of Kingman on
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there he owned a big van tation a big
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- house a big car just about everything
- about him was big except his heart which
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He gets shoved through the eye of a
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needle without bruising and no no he
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wasn't got himself shot to death in 59
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right outside my front door with my gun
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and you didn't do it no sir no alibi
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well there's a gallon red wine but
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nobody heard me snoring including the 12
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jurors Ludi you helped me
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but what does this have to do with
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insurance we see I know I didn't kill
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- Ricci Kingman that means somebody else
- done it now he wouldn't left plenty of
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Life insurance money
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maybe somebody shot him to get it now if
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you could prove that you get the money
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back and you'd get paid and everybody be
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happy yeah push life for that simple
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you feel that mr. Longstreet that's how
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simple my life is why no you just go
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along from day to day not hurting nobody
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I'm a little possum patient little
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profit and all of a sudden the walls go
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up ten years in prisons a long time
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either you stay mad at everything or you
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live I lived
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oh he's uh got a broke arm
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ah it's late I know I'm trying to finish
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your book hmm
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oh do call it again about the arson case
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yeah it's a multi-million dollar
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monstrosity in Dallas oh you're not
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interested no Nikki I can almost hear
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the steel doors closing smell the plain
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food on tin plate
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Kela panic the being locked up by God he
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must truly be something that'll man a
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tall boot I don't want to see thrown
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back in the river
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the murder took place on October 31st
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Halloween Horne Beck's gun but no
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fingerprints liked the two men had an
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argument that afternoon it seems that
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Hornbeck was squatting on kingman land a
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little to the right why would a man wipe
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off his fingerprints and leave his gun
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the fans asked that question but nobody
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answered it that's about all they did
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ask was an open-and-shut case
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they called it second-degree murder and
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put the old man away for 10 - 20 they
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put him on the witness stand yeah he
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said he spent the night with a friend
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one more here
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hmm oh it's my bookmarks here's
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something question who is this friend
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answer I can't say question can't or
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won't
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answer both question why doesn't this
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so-called friend come to your aid answer
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I'm only responsible for my own
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conscience and I'm only responsible for
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my own paycheck I see by the veins in
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your neck you are somewhat agitated no
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kidding my company's got a 2.3 million
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dollar arson case to lay on my friend
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here and he keeps fooling around with
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convicted murderers in ancient history I
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am feeling otherwise Duke Greg would you
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like to read eleven hundred and twenty
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three letters from one Fred Hornbeck to
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the Great Pacific Insurance Company they
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date from December 10th 1959 through
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August of this year
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I assume great Pacific now the
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life-insurance policy on Kingman yep
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hell it would regret not so much for
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$300,000 they had to pay out butts the
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irritation I'm having to read eleven
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hundred and twenty three letters about
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it you realized you've got the entire
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educational history of a human being in
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that box
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wonderful no really do these early
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letters were written by somebody else
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probably a friend here's one dated
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September 12 1962 it's printed Mike like
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a child here's one 1965 big scrolled
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handwriting that means the man learned
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to write from scratch and he learned to
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read too
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and that's all right here it's like
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exploring an ancient ruin and
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discovering that real people still live
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there I'm not so sure Fred Hornbeck
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would appreciate that ancient Roman
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analogy Nicky who was Kingman's
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beneficiary to his wife did investigate
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or mention anything about a friend
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Hornbeck spent the night with no there
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was no friend and set out to investigate
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a $300,000 life insurance claim and
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figure he'd make an attempt to verify
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the witness's existence who is the
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investigator Stuart means I don't know
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him I don't know either
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maybe he moved to another company how
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could you find out when we do it well I
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could talk to him what about my 2.3
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million dollar fire hmm you know Don
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Quixote never had a know bad to pay for
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tilting those windmills okay I'm only
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responsible for my own conscience Ben
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Deniz was a sick man sitting here God
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loveth dem skirts enough to Buster we
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caught you're evading my question I have
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a dream I told you I was running told
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the court you're with a friend flying
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where no damn no don't believe it don't
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believe in the lawyers gonna put his
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client with a stand on an idiotic story
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like that unless it's the truth well or
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you never knew nothing about the truth
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so you can forget that you must have
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believed you're innocent otherwise you'd
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have made some kind of a deal I knew I
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was innocent and I was making no deals
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matter what anybody read with you what
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will they help you I wouldn't know where
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- the friend was you understand what I'm
- saying mr. Longstreet I know I'm
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Innocent
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I'd ask you to prove that I'm ask you to
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find the person that's done it now what
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happened to me that's history it ain't
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got nothing to do with nothing my
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secrets ain't gonna catch you a murderer
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- or what if it will and you just ain't
- gonna catch no murderer
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You really believe him don't you
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man doesn't have much reason to lie then
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why not tell you who the friend was I
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don't know its fear but I'm betting it's
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not I don't think that man's ever been
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afraid of anything maybe he's protecting
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someone I think so
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I lay odds it's a woman I've heard of
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Southern gallantry 10 years in prison
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why not
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look what Macbeth did for his lady he
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was a northerner south of Scotland
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Hornbeck is a hanger Lynette I figured
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out the right entity maybe they should
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carve that on his tombstone he's not
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dead yet Sheriff he might as well be
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he's been out on the street lesson a
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week he comes tearing into town
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bothering people asking the questions
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you I must have 10 ton of mail to let
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beak on they did itself a disservice
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when they told him to read and write I
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have to admire his persistence man pays
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his dues for being caught in alive why
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keep up the line I told you he's a pika
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always has been a pika
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squatting in that cabin living off the
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river boobs woman I never did an honest
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day's work in his life ty why spend ten
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years in jail Sheriff he was convicted
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on the evidence mr. Longstreet now I was
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there get horn back had any friends
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couple jacked up in a wave of the one
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I'd like to meet him he can't he died
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here though no woman friend I told you
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he was a womanizer but nobody's special
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Oh Abby maybe Jack's daughter then she
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was one I can well you know I can find
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her no she left me Jim years ago never
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even come back for a daddy's funeral
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what can you tell me about Kingman's
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- Widow Haven around town asking a whole
- lot of questions why what's it to you
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It's all over now we don't need anybody
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drenching the whole thing up again easy
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boy
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who are you who's my father who was
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killed and I don't want you coming
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around talking about my family and then
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old Freddie and getting people upset
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especially my mother you stay away from
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my mother so help me under running back
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New Orleans and a pole
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we still look up the world hood chicken
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why I thought it was through them I'm
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sorry about Richie I reckon I'm sorriest
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about that you know boy were buddies
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first time I taught him to bait a hook
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he was old maybe six and he got the hook
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caught his finger and turned this white
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as a clean sheet near fainted I wrote
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Richie about 65 when I was gonna hug it
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right pretty good never wrote back how
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you progressing I want you to tell me
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about Abby
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he's nothing to tell she was with you
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that night wasn't she who you've been
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talking to so I want to saw you
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that's why nobody thought hmm that's
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right it's a lie from both sides come on
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Fred I'm not gonna put in the newspaper
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she went away her father's dead
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I never knew he was dead I don't feel
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like he did we was less friends all
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allies we were like brothers I was best
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man Lee but his to his wife
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I was Godfather to Abby when she was 22
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years old I was 51 years I never met
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start up with her she has come up the
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river to visit one thing led to another
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we should expect me to go on the witness
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stand until a jackpot went on with me
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and his little girl I couldn't do that I
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done some wild things my time but I
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couldn't do that to a friend
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so you did it to yourself so can you
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first I figured you know I should come
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around and tell him and she never did
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and I figured well I must have really
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hurt her you know don't keep telling the
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truth then I I started figuring how much
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hurt that was and how much hurt I done
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to other people over the years and went
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mad had to go up and I finally figured
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that ten years wasn't too high a price
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to pay to a friend at 22 she wasn't a
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little girl did she want to get married
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she did and I didn't I had to hit him
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- kind and I told her you know where she
- is now I haven't seen her ahead of her
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Since the night Qinglin was killed
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I wrote to a few times but the letters
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always came back address unknown tell I
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want to try to find her I don't want you
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to do that mr. Longstreet no I don't eat
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animal I think you do
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did you talk the insurance investigator
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about heavy no nobody
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no no investigator Stewart means never
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Fred what would you have done if a
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sentence had been hanging I don't know
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miss I like to think I'd have hanged
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this one you call right away on that
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their group citizens organized draft get
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me into State House of Representatives
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don't you be surprised you see that
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picture coming at you from all
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directions I I know you by reputation
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mr. Longstreet and uh well I'd like to
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help me well that was all a long time
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ago one everything should be in my
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report anyhow you didn't mention
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anything about the friend Hornbeck was
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supposed to been with that night clam I
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saw no point to it till I believe that
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story anyhow
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besides I wanted a drop it himself after
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a while did you talk to him about it
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no I I never talked to him period
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I saw no point to it I mean it was
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cut-and-dried case law had him cold I
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saw no reason to drag out settlement mr.
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K missus at Kingman G remarried yes yes
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she did
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and you see her me know she's an
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important citizen in this state and yeah
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I read about it she makes a society
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pages every so often when you're
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politically oriented you read those
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pages I thought you're being drafted oh
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thank you thank you mr. means I we
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haven't taken up too much of your time
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well no not at all sorry I can't be more
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help you don't have to get over on the
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way and we can't boom
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No well I don't believe I do
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means was with the great Pacific for
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seven years he had a good record they
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raided a maid
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that's your rating Mike so you'd better
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figure he knew his business yeah that's
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what bothers me
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he got into the lumber business in 62
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just after mrs. Kingman collected her
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husband's insurance and his partners
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know you get all the money I don't know
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savings and arrogance rich white Irish
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sweepstakes black man hi you back I'm
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back you paid somebody to do that know
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what my nail is a Meechum beauty salon
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special nails and facial 350 like the
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nails in 1930s red fashion train is back
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for 350 Nicky why are you allowing
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yourself be destroyed by the Legion
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beauties for because I will go to any
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lengths to get information did you say
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any almost if you want to know what's
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happened in a small town you visit a
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local beauty parlor and the Meechum
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beauty salon ladies know all feel and
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- tell such as Abby Villanueva let's meet
- you in 61 the day after Christmas with
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The Santa Claus from world's department
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store work and a little trollop as a
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ladies caller has never returned anybody
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know where she is now negative well at
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least we know she exists and the use of
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the personal pronoun du chà a sense of
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developing commitment here I have
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assigned the arson case to another color
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far wiser and a lot more pragmatic
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together with a fat fee of course and I
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just don't like the idea that you were
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mr. Hornbeck may not have gotten his
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fair portion of the bar of justice our
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mr. Hornbeck our mr. Hornbeck what else
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thinking nobody has a bad word for
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Louisa Kingman they sympathize with her
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losses and we're delighted that she
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married Henry to Gary
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we're a discreet two years after
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husband's dance and the ladies of
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Meacham beauty salon considered them of
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refined and genteel couple who shunned
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publicity and are constantly behind the
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scenes with good deeds so they don't
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make us social pages that our friends
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means likes to read
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how do you do still on street
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carry my associate Nikki Bella hello
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hello I hope I haven't kept you waiting
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too long please sit down right oh thank
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you Mary Rose would you have tea no
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thanks Henry
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please I'm investigating the whereabouts
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of a young woman for the Great Pacific
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Insurance Company
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she used to live in Meacham and I
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understand she worked for you
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name's Abigail Villanueva hey I'm sorry
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something wrong oh no no just a little
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accident with the tea are you well thank
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you I'm fine
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what name Abigail Villanueva I don't
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know it she was called Abbie I know the
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name oh you remember Louisa Jack
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Villanueva's daughter the one that ran
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away with Santa Claus a pretty thing at
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eyes like saucers but she never worked
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for us I'm afraid you're misinformed
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- I'll tell you who she did work for
- Charlie Porter he used to have a diner
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In Meacham until about five years ago
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you might talk with him what are they
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doing in this hall David I told you not
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to come around here these people are
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guests in this house you must apologize
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David I'm sorry I guess we're all
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playing games mr. Longstreet are you
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investigating Richard Kingman's death
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yes I am why because I think an innocent
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man spent ten years in prison because it
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was expedient because it didn't drop any
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one status quo exert his
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well should I come in for bourbon and
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cranberry juice or are you going to
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continue the siren dialogue I'm sorry
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Nicki I am keep thinking about her to
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carries something is not a placement on
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the day I felt it I know and can't put
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my finger on it she certainly was
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nervous no no that's not it something
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- else if I stop pushing it'll come to me
- so it's like okay hey I'll like it packs
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It to there in the morning okay thanks
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good night
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hi Mary Mike Longstreet any messages
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okay thanks tonight
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who's there
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oh is it boy I'm your friend Freddie I
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got tighter why next one I think the
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book will pass
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did you see if it was wearing masks for
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a boy man they're reeking from alcohol
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mask spoons hit-and-runs another fright
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little man fred was the kind you can
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break
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anybody here mr. Longstreet up here what
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happened oh it's a mess up only for the
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one who I could clean it up completely
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mrs. Davis a lot more painful causing it
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mr. Hornbeck doing
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oh you mean Sleeping Beauty oh and she
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- told me he's crazy about sleeping under
- the stars what do I wake him up or clean
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Around him you're the boss I see a man
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about a waitress Thanks come here come
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on sorry okay right right there's a nice
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couple here to see you Charlie
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this here is mr. Longstreet and Miss
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Belle they've come all the way from New
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- Orleans to say hello to you
- how are you mr. horner he's in a
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Wheelchair Mike and he doesn't
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understand oh sure you do don't you
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Charlie you understand everything he's
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had a stroke you see and you don't talk
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a movement that minor is just a ticket
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away can you ask him questions talk to
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him I should say so
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do you know these people Charlie you
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don't know you is that the truth that's
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the truth mr. Porter I'm an insurance
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investigator I'm trying to find Abbie
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Villanueva understand she's work for you
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in the diner you know she is you don't
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know a man's life's at stake mr. Porter
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there's a great deal of money involved
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my company has to get in touch with Abby
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would you help us find it yes there
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uncle Charlie thanks for the money
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things is better now I'll write you a
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letter love a postmark is Miami Beach
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June 7 1970 she never sent that letter
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I'll have our office in Miami try and
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track her down you'll be delighted to
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- know that I have a friend in real estate
- I found out that Stewart means made a
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Very good deal on the lumber business
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he put $50,000 down which he got as a
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paint long and would you like to know
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who co-signed that loan hmm Henry do
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carry they carry
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my business was purchased before to
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carry mary-louise a Kingman right do you
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think maybe some hanky-panky was going
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on way back then like to carry mrs.
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Kingman while hubby was still alive I'll
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be found out so - Gary guilty maybe
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maybe she doesn't know anything about
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her husband's death
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I like that lady it's a quality about
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her when she speaks the way she went
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after my hand has shaken
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I'm not ready to believe she's a
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murderess i bench miss Louisa since she
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got married to mr. Kingman I was just a
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kid my mom was housekeeper and I used to
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help out when Richie got one David they
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call him out David does he call himself
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David yes sir and he don't take to being
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called nothing else why don't you get to
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it ran too hard she'll get to the famous
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you come you're looking for information
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tell us what you after what you're
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paying quiet woman matter what five
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months now so I can't afford to be no
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free Judas what do you want and what do
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you pay we're investigating Richard
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Hammonds death what you're talking about
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mr. Kimura's dead more than ten years
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and the man I've done it's been in jail
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and out already we think they put the
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wrong man in jail that's why we're here
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you ain't got nothing for me that man
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had himself a fair trial maybe he did
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but he's a poor man and sometimes fair
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doesn't mean the same for a poor man a
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man today we just want to make sure it
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was fair I I know the Kingman's didn't
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get along was that because of mr. de
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Cary mr. Kingman Avenue nothing about
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mr. de Cary he never needed no reason to
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beat on that pool or on Richie
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he was a miserable terrible drunk and
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nobody know because the family was too
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high and mighty to admit it where was
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mrs. Kingman when her husband was shot
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miss Louisa was home that night I know
532
00:30:31,671 --> 00:30:33,679
cuz it was Halloween and the kids was
533
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,524
out Rick and treatment and I was helping
534
00:30:35,525 --> 00:30:37,819
I get out the treats mr. Kingman got
535
00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:40,309
shot at ten o'clock
536
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:42,798
I was with her right then how did you
537
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,595
know the Kingman's didn't get along
538
00:30:45,596 --> 00:30:47,425
David to carry as it was
539
00:30:47,426 --> 00:30:49,300
wrong with the scene at their house they
540
00:30:49,301 --> 00:30:52,840
kept calling him David that's his name
541
00:30:52,841 --> 00:30:55,269
his name was Richard Kingman jr. and
542
00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:57,159
only Son a namesake who's 14 years old
543
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,379
and his father was killed I changed his
544
00:30:59,380 --> 00:31:01,570
name why would a wife and a son totally
545
00:31:01,571 --> 00:31:03,730
obliterate the existence of a father mr.
546
00:31:03,731 --> 00:31:05,500
Louis leave in three days you've managed
547
00:31:05,501 --> 00:31:07,390
to upset my entire family
548
00:31:07,391 --> 00:31:10,495
why because of Hornbeck he was tried and
549
00:31:10,496 --> 00:31:12,850
convicted and even if it should happen
550
00:31:12,851 --> 00:31:15,145
that this was a miscarriage of justice
551
00:31:15,146 --> 00:31:17,395
and he was innocent what could we do
552
00:31:17,396 --> 00:31:19,180
what feel sorry for him people have
553
00:31:19,181 --> 00:31:22,000
nothing to hide don't get upset over
554
00:31:22,001 --> 00:31:24,789
questions when you start digging most
555
00:31:24,790 --> 00:31:26,650
people have something to hide it doesn't
556
00:31:26,651 --> 00:31:29,200
have to be murder no it could be
557
00:31:29,201 --> 00:31:34,325
something as simple as adultery good day
558
00:31:34,326 --> 00:31:36,900
mr. Longstreet Thanks
559
00:31:41,910 --> 00:31:45,278
you know steward means no no
560
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,489
why did you cosign a $50,000 no for that
561
00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:51,900
- is none of your business
562
00:31:58,299 --> 00:32:01,358
but this time you're asked about Stewart
563
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,328
means so you drew blood with mr. de
564
00:32:04,329 --> 00:32:06,818
Karen a couple of pints at least you
565
00:32:06,819 --> 00:32:09,955
make out with a sheriff not a drop on
566
00:32:09,956 --> 00:32:13,269
the night of the murder the country club
567
00:32:13,270 --> 00:32:16,120
had Halloween party sheriff Pike was
568
00:32:16,121 --> 00:32:19,089
there so was Henry to carry the whole
569
00:32:19,090 --> 00:32:22,329
world's got an alibi and she's um was
570
00:32:22,330 --> 00:32:25,359
again you have to refer to my food with
571
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,539
such a Dearing names she's a beaut expel
572
00:32:28,540 --> 00:32:30,579
abuse you know if Mike here could catch
573
00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:34,084
crooks like you catch fish he'd be a
574
00:32:34,085 --> 00:32:37,588
millionaire here we go nice and hot
575
00:32:37,589 --> 00:32:41,639
what's wrong hey yeah alright I'm ready
576
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,659
alright give you nice big one a now you
577
00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:50,545
just taste that and you tell me you have
578
00:32:50,546 --> 00:32:53,735
a tasted better than Oh beautiful
579
00:32:53,736 --> 00:32:56,985
friends fantastic
580
00:32:56,986 --> 00:32:59,670
where's my bread I would like to make a
581
00:32:59,671 --> 00:33:03,170
toast
582
00:33:03,171 --> 00:33:05,979
yes somehow I'm go to prison he's so
583
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:07,439
important no more
584
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,679
sometimes I even have trouble separating
585
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,604
it from what I've done all my life it's
586
00:33:14,605 --> 00:33:17,035
the first time I ever cooked in the
587
00:33:17,036 --> 00:33:21,740
kitchen a real kitchen first time I have
588
00:33:21,741 --> 00:33:24,600
a drunk wine from a real wine glass
589
00:33:29,329 --> 00:33:34,199
and sure the first time I ever had so
590
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,920
many frames
591
00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:48,858
ain't that how you make at Ocean that's
592
00:33:48,859 --> 00:33:51,519
the only way Fred
593
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,229
let's see now this is um French Bordeaux
594
00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:07,108
1960 no no 1959 clothes California
595
00:34:07,109 --> 00:34:14,908
burgundy 1967 Braddock do you use that
596
00:34:14,909 --> 00:34:19,488
for it I don't feel so hungry I
597
00:34:19,489 --> 00:34:22,440
recommend all kombucha and Easter when
598
00:34:22,441 --> 00:34:25,830
you're kid and all the time you're
599
00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:30,089
walking you're real excited that last
600
00:34:30,090 --> 00:34:32,549
bit that last hundred yards I wish I
601
00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:34,919
felt that close we're all you have to do
602
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,870
is figure out anybody can be in two
603
00:34:36,871 --> 00:34:39,289
places at the same time well that's
604
00:34:39,290 --> 00:34:42,309
impossible it's you're identical twins
605
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:45,328
except except at Halloween sure I
606
00:34:45,329 --> 00:34:47,999
remember she wasn't wearing no costume
607
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,609
at all miss Louisa never liked getting
608
00:34:50,610 --> 00:34:53,730
fancy dressed like that and like I told
609
00:34:53,731 --> 00:34:57,075
you she was at home that night
610
00:34:57,076 --> 00:35:00,555
Thank You mrs. Carter yeah I'll tell you
611
00:35:00,556 --> 00:35:02,264
what the point of it is Henry the carry
612
00:35:02,265 --> 00:35:04,094
and custom could have slipped out that
613
00:35:04,095 --> 00:35:06,240
night and killed Kingman could have but
614
00:35:06,241 --> 00:35:08,910
didn't now I've got pictures of country
615
00:35:08,911 --> 00:35:10,754
club activities that go all the way back
616
00:35:10,755 --> 00:35:13,800
to 46 that was 59 Halloween right well
617
00:35:13,801 --> 00:35:16,050
here you are Mr D Kerry was there and he
618
00:35:16,051 --> 00:35:19,610
was dressed like Lafayette anyone else
619
00:35:19,611 --> 00:35:22,520
that picture wearing a Lafayette costume
620
00:35:22,521 --> 00:35:25,430
all right thanks Seymour Lafayette
621
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:29,759
you've got a visitor
622
00:35:50,179 --> 00:35:53,098
I'm a very young girl when I married
623
00:35:53,099 --> 00:35:56,819
Richard so young I thought I knew
624
00:35:56,820 --> 00:36:00,885
everything there was to know about life
625
00:36:00,886 --> 00:36:03,359
I was wiser when I grew old I wasn't
626
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,209
sure of anything in life I I only knew
627
00:36:06,210 --> 00:36:10,138
that I was terribly unhappy I met Henry
628
00:36:10,139 --> 00:36:12,900
five years after I married Richard
629
00:36:12,901 --> 00:36:15,345
though he never really entered into my
630
00:36:15,346 --> 00:36:18,045
life until about a year before Richard's
631
00:36:18,046 --> 00:36:22,110
death I'd have given anything that that
632
00:36:22,111 --> 00:36:24,840
hadn't happened mr. Longstreet Henry is
633
00:36:24,841 --> 00:36:26,789
a good man it's unfair for him to be
634
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:29,340
suspected of a sin he's incapable of
635
00:36:29,341 --> 00:36:33,750
committing treason mr. Longstreet let it
636
00:36:33,751 --> 00:36:36,945
pass what about Fred Hornbeck I can help
637
00:36:36,946 --> 00:36:39,630
him give him money that's very generous
638
00:36:39,631 --> 00:36:42,840
well not money then I can help him what
639
00:36:42,841 --> 00:36:44,910
does he want the truth will you get in
640
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:47,775
that I'm sorry mr. Carey I'm gonna find
641
00:36:47,776 --> 00:36:50,500
out who kills your husband have you
642
00:36:50,501 --> 00:36:52,430
never been in love mr. Longstreet
643
00:37:04,778 --> 00:37:12,348
Mike Mike are you alright yeah yeah I'm
644
00:37:12,349 --> 00:37:16,607
just thinking well you found a be right
645
00:37:16,608 --> 00:37:20,189
here in New Orleans
646
00:37:20,190 --> 00:37:22,547
Abigale Villanueva 1939 to 1970 she
647
00:37:22,548 --> 00:37:26,510
purchased the crib in July of 61 paid
648
00:37:26,511 --> 00:37:29,405
cash she died last December the body was
649
00:37:29,406 --> 00:37:32,045
shipped from Miami cause of death an
650
00:37:32,046 --> 00:37:40,046
overdose of barbiturates why haven't I
651
00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:50,890
heard Santa Claus 1961 she was only 24
652
00:37:52,309 --> 00:37:55,630
years old when she bought that crypt
653
00:37:59,619 --> 00:38:01,968
this oh she knew her life was over
654
00:38:01,969 --> 00:38:04,550
before it even began
655
00:38:04,551 --> 00:38:06,875
I reckon that about does it for me I
656
00:38:06,876 --> 00:38:09,318
think Adhikari is done to kill him there
657
00:38:09,319 --> 00:38:12,380
just ain't no way to make him say it
658
00:38:12,381 --> 00:38:14,119
there has to be the man co-signed a bank
659
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,849
well for $50,000 and it had to be
660
00:38:16,850 --> 00:38:19,190
blackmail money so somebody found out
661
00:38:19,191 --> 00:38:21,318
about it that means he didn't commit a
662
00:38:21,319 --> 00:38:24,130
perfect crime if he committed a crime at
663
00:38:24,131 --> 00:38:26,630
all I thought he was your prime suspect
664
00:38:26,631 --> 00:38:28,970
Howard Stewart means tune in on the
665
00:38:28,971 --> 00:38:33,214
carries why would he know well the key
666
00:38:33,215 --> 00:38:36,155
here is a B you must have talked to her
667
00:38:36,156 --> 00:38:38,720
realize fred was innocent and went
668
00:38:38,721 --> 00:38:40,730
snooping until he found out who the real
669
00:38:40,731 --> 00:38:43,654
murderer was any and he paid off Abby to
670
00:38:43,655 --> 00:38:45,484
get her to go out of town that's how she
671
00:38:45,485 --> 00:38:47,599
got enough money to buy her crypt but
672
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,710
she was the only threat to anyone and
673
00:38:50,711 --> 00:38:52,880
now she did but they don't know that
674
00:38:52,881 --> 00:38:54,858
they don't know that otherwise why
675
00:38:54,859 --> 00:38:57,019
they're running so scared why they
676
00:38:54,858 --> 00:38:57,754
hit-and-run why the attacks on Fred and
677
00:38:57,755 --> 00:38:59,804
me no no they think she's alive and
678
00:38:59,805 --> 00:39:01,118
threatening
679
00:39:06,409 --> 00:39:09,409
what do you think you where you go on on
680
00:39:09,410 --> 00:39:11,690
Vic and boy you know it I just spoke to
681
00:39:11,691 --> 00:39:13,774
Abby I want banter and boy you're lucky
682
00:39:13,775 --> 00:39:16,054
I don't kill you right now ten years I
683
00:39:16,055 --> 00:39:19,010
spent that prison never gets healed I'm
684
00:39:19,011 --> 00:39:21,939
- going to see you spend twice as long in
- the same cell
685
00:39:40,429 --> 00:39:43,379
Hello I've got for you here
686
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:51,380
good night why
687
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:05,259
Louisa what is it
688
00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:10,138
Oh him I didn't know how to tell you
689
00:40:10,139 --> 00:40:12,399
we've got to talk
690
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:20,009
I could feel his bones shaken good
691
00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:23,370
alright be seeing your friend couldn't I
692
00:40:23,371 --> 00:40:25,424
just sit here with you no we get in any
693
00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:27,554
trouble at all you're in it pick you up
694
00:40:27,555 --> 00:40:29,879
on a parole violation so caper may not
695
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:36,570
help you but I don't want it hurting you
696
00:40:36,571 --> 00:40:43,259
either come what a stain alright uh 6:20
697
00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:45,928
I've got another elementary question yes
698
00:40:45,929 --> 00:40:49,169
- do you think it was mean - simple two
699
00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:51,344
men after you and Fred I'm sure
700
00:40:51,345 --> 00:40:54,015
but even if we fry it means in to carry
701
00:40:54,016 --> 00:40:56,520
into a tater tape then what well we've
702
00:40:56,521 --> 00:40:58,454
got two eyes and four years between us I
703
00:40:58,455 --> 00:41:00,779
want to do is get them panicked enough
704
00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:02,670
to start pointing fingers at each other
705
00:41:02,671 --> 00:41:06,610
as long as they don't start pointing
706
00:41:06,611 --> 00:41:10,550
guns at us who is it Duke
707
00:41:13,730 --> 00:41:17,189
all of us are on back I don't just
708
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:20,550
happen to be in the neighborhood huh
709
00:41:20,551 --> 00:41:23,369
- nope I made a special trip with a
- message for Nicky from Alice what's that
710
00:41:23,372 --> 00:41:25,590
So what's love you can babysit tonight
711
00:41:25,591 --> 00:41:28,530
with the kids while she takes in a heavy
712
00:41:28,531 --> 00:41:31,529
PTA meeting tonight but I'm planning to
713
00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:37,695
stay here and roll I'm planning to stay
714
00:41:37,696 --> 00:41:43,859
here and lights going on I hate to say
715
00:41:43,860 --> 00:41:46,919
this but I'm starving
716
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,509
welcome to the club what it means that's
717
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:54,255
right as we think he is now that will
718
00:41:54,256 --> 00:41:57,804
estar for nothing
719
00:41:57,805 --> 00:42:00,799
company coming it's the rules
720
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:07,259
who's driving it's too dark to see when
721
00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:09,149
the argument
722
00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:12,598
give me 20 minutes you stay put I got a
723
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:16,789
phone call to make I'll be right back
724
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:41,689
whoa it's true what's happening
725
00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:45,439
everything is okay Nikki in about 20
726
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,010
minutes I want you to call the police
727
00:42:49,011 --> 00:42:52,640
and tell them you saw a prowler and
728
00:42:52,641 --> 00:42:56,268
means lumberyard Duke Alice didn't need
729
00:42:56,269 --> 00:42:59,920
a sitter I know
730
00:43:16,969 --> 00:43:21,149
where is he we just had to stay put stay
731
00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:23,298
put
732
00:44:10,699 --> 00:44:18,699
I heard him crying in his room
733
00:44:30,858 --> 00:44:34,819
it was nearly 2:00 in the morning his
734
00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:39,935
father was drunk that night brutally
735
00:44:39,936 --> 00:44:42,799
drunk I know in a way it was
736
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,348
self-defense but just could people
737
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:48,319
understand it I couldn't take the chance
738
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,607
he was 14 years old my only son I could
739
00:44:52,608 --> 00:44:57,199
think of nothing to do but protect him I
740
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,490
went to the shack and found Richard he
741
00:45:01,491 --> 00:45:04,534
was dead I couldn't move him I cleaned
742
00:45:04,535 --> 00:45:07,999
off the rifle and left it there beside
743
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:16,000
him I didn't care about mr. Hornbeck I I
744
00:45:16,756 --> 00:45:23,108
only wanted to save my son hey rich
745
00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:34,178
God for me I'm sorry I was too scared
746
00:45:34,179 --> 00:45:37,868
you hope he always scared me Freddie he
747
00:45:37,869 --> 00:45:40,448
was hitting mother I tried to stop him
748
00:45:40,449 --> 00:45:43,299
and he came after me I ran to your place
749
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:46,988
but you were away it was cling at me and
750
00:45:46,989 --> 00:45:53,529
I just took your gun never meant for you
751
00:45:53,530 --> 00:46:01,530
to go to prison she scared you couldn't
752
00:46:01,809 --> 00:46:07,750
have done what she done tonight unless
753
00:46:07,751 --> 00:46:11,618
she was still scared and you missed us
754
00:46:11,619 --> 00:46:14,369
stop being scared
755
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:53,218
women and kids I'm a sucker for what
756
00:46:53,219 --> 00:46:57,448
will happen there'll be a hearing it
757
00:46:57,449 --> 00:47:00,540
probably won't be easy for the two
758
00:47:00,541 --> 00:47:02,849
carries but it will be a lot easier than
759
00:47:02,850 --> 00:47:05,368
the ten years you spend in prison
760
00:47:05,369 --> 00:47:09,449
just as long as they don't have to look
761
00:47:09,450 --> 00:47:11,295
to know chicken wire hey anybody still
762
00:47:11,296 --> 00:47:14,175
hungry ought to be some catfish leg yeah
763
00:47:14,176 --> 00:47:17,789
Duke watch your come on fishing with
764
00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:20,690
Fred me tomorrow good idea maybe you'll
765
00:47:20,691 --> 00:47:28,691
catch some meat to that boot
57947
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