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Yeah, I went back to Harrods
about a year ago.
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Probably the first time
since I left.
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And I knew if I could walk through
and come out the other side,
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I'd be in a good place
to be talking to you.
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When I walked through the doors to
start my job there, I was excited.
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At no point in time
did I ever anticipate
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being on the receiving end
of an attempted rape.
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I joined Harrods because
I wanted to be a buyer,
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and I ended up working
for an absolute monster.
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I think he damaged me in some way.
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He's just left a scar.
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NEWS REPORT: The billionaire
businessman Mohamed Al Fayed,
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who went from selling soft drinks
in Egypt to owning Harrods
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and the Paris Ritz,
has died at the age of 94.
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The Egyptian businessman
Mohamed Al Fayed was best known
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for his links to the
British royal family.
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His son Dodi was killed alongside
Princess Diana in Paris in 1997.
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He was the self-made billionaire
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determined to get
into British society,
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and became known to a new generation
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through the most recent series
of The Crown.
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{\an8}Diana.
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{\an8}Mohamed.
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{\an8}But you must call me Mou Mou.
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To be honest, it's made me
really hot and bothered.
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I think he comes across pleasant.
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We all know he's not.
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It just makes him look sort
of funny and gregarious, and...
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..and he could turn that on
but it's all... He wasn't.
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He was...vile.
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And that makes me angry.
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People shouldn't remember him
like that.
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It's not how he was.
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I've been waiting for 25 years
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for someone to believe me,
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to talk about the
awful things that he did.
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I have spoken up about my time
there on numerous occasions.
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Most of the time
it has been shut down.
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He tried to rape me more than once.
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And he pushed me in
and onto the bed,
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so that I couldn't move,
and held both my wrists.
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I was kind of face down on the bed
and he pressed himself on me.
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Get him off! Get him off!
Get him off!
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I was a child when this happened.
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You know, he was 79, nearly 80,
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and I was 15.
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I think Mohamed Al Fayed
is a rapist.
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I think he's a serial rapist.
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I made it obvious
that I didn't want that to happen.
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Just going somewhere else
in my head.
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Mohamed Al Fayed should be on trial,
but he's not.
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He's in the ground being eulogised
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by the most popular television
programme out there.
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I knew -
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and I think if I know,
everybody knew.
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Anyone who says they didn't,
they're lying. I'm sorry.
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The spider's web of corruption
and abuse in this company
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was unbelievable and very dark.
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Without question,
Harrods failed these ladies.
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The lawyers organised
for a shredding truck
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to come to my lawyer's office,
where we placed everything in.
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It was shredded in front of us,
including tapes I had of him.
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I do think it's important
that we stand up
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and expose actually
who Mohamed Al Fayed was.
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And I think it's time.
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ARCHIVE: Harrods, everything,
London.
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The most interesting and beautiful
store in the whole of Britain
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and one of the most famous
in the world.
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Harrods is the best store
in the world.
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When I grew up, you were always told
that you could buy anything
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at Harrods, weren't you?
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You could buy an elephant
or you could buy, you know,
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a piece of cheese.
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ARCHIVE: If you could understand
such a place,
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you would understand a lot
about the nature of Britain.
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The sort of people who come
to shop at this temple
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are from no single social class.
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They are united by money
rather than by bloodline.
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Harrods was, I think, for a lot
of people, a world of possibilities.
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Willy Wonka's chocolate factory.
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You'd walk in and just be amazed.
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ARCHIVE: They delight
in the suggestion
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that they are getting the best.
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They are usually female.
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I just loved the architecture.
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I loved the ground floor,
the food halls.
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I loved it.
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I lived, breathed, worked Harrods.
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It had deep, deep history,
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and so when I first joined,
that was one of the reasons
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I wanted to be part
of the organisation.
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It had a huge reputation.
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{\an8}Harrods is the greatest
store in the world.
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{\an8}And...
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..it's not only a business to run,
but it's history.
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It was another world,
but it was a world that, you know,
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we were part of.
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We were family.
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My name is Sam.
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I started working in Harrods
in September 1986.
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I was there for seven years.
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I worked in the toy department.
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The toy department was exactly
like a Wonka factory.
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You had everything -
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doll's houses, petrol driven cars.
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The car would have to match Daddy's.
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There was one occasion I was late
for work,
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and this child had just come
hurtling towards me
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in this tractor trailer
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and ran over my foot.
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I heard, "William, come back!
William!"
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And I just thought,
"Oh, that was Prince...
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"..that was Prince William
running over my toe."
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Britain's most famous department
store is no longer British.
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Harrods, one of London's
most famous landmarks,
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has been bought by three millionaire
Egyptian brothers -
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the Al Fayed family.
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What did I know of Mohamed Al Fayed?
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I think everyone knew
he was obviously a very wealthy man.
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{\an8}I think he emerged on the scene
sort of in the mid '80s
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as quite a powerful businessman.
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I knew that he was
the owner of Harrods
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and that he had acquired it
in a rather dubious way,
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which was a bit of
a scandal at the time.
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NEWS REPORT: The report says that
Mohamed Fayed and his brother
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were dishonest
when they bought Harrods
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and the House of Fraser Group
in 1985.
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They misled the Secretary of State
for Trade and others
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by saying they had extensive
international business interests.
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He was basically a crook.
Let's be honest about it.
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{\an8}He was a crook and a fraudster in
terms of how he acquired the money
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to even buy Harrods.
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I think he - naively, perhaps -
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he thought, "Ah, if I own Harrods,
they'll embrace me."
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I own the shop and no-one ever will
be able to take it away from me.
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Only God.
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The royal family, the establishment,
"I'll get my passport,
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"I'll end up in the House of Lords."
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Mohamed, at that time,
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I thought he was kind, charitable...
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Lovely seeing you.
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..and I thought that he had been
misrepresented.
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He was very generous with children.
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He would invite families
into the toy department
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and he would shower them
with lavish gifts.
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NEWS REPORT: Mr Al Fayed
has said that he'll pay
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the half a million pounds
it will cost
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to relocate the specialist bone
marrow transplant unit,
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where the desperately ill
child was being treated.
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Such a kind, generous man. I know he
does a lot of things for charity.
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Stand up, Goldie!
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Five, four, three,
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two, one.
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The sale is open!
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So many people would come up
to open the Harrods stores.
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His public persona was so gregarious
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and so, like, out there,
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and he would invite all the stars -
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Tony Curtis, Dame Edna Everage...
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The most beautiful shop
in the world.
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Pele, Muhammad Ali, Demi Moore,
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Bruce Willis, Sultan of Brunei.
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Most of the Spice Girls,
all except Mel C.
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Didn't get her for the tick box.
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Michael Jackson. We closed
the store for Michael Jackson.
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If he knew there was a VIP actor
or someone in the public limelight
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in the store, he'd zoom down
and he would buy them presents,
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just be all over them.
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Definitely courted notoriety
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and wanted to befriend anyone
that was in the public eye.
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When I started at Harrods,
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I was 19, turning 20.
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The very first time I met Mohamed,
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I remember exactly where I was.
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I was standing in Way In womenswear
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tidying up a rack of clothes,
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and I could see him walking towards
me with his bodyguards.
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He came up to me and said,
"Hello. How are you doing?"
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You know, and I was like, "Hi".
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Just a little bit nervous
and just sort of a bit like, "Ooh!"
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Partly sort of, you know, flattered,
in a way, that he'd come up to me.
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Why, why me?
And, you know, sort of,
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"Ooh, he's the chairman," you know.
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From working in Way In to working
in the chairman's office,
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there were no next steps,
it was super fast.
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He asked me to go up to meet him
in the chairman's office,
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and when I went to see him,
he asked me what I wanted to do.
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I said I wanted to be a buyer.
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That's why I was on
the training course.
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And he was going,
"Oh, I can make that happen for you.
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"I can make anything happen for you.
Come and work for me.
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"Come and work at the
chairman's office."
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So, I mean, it's...
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What can you say?
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"Yes, yes. Great. Thank you."
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Next day, I was working for him
in the chairman's office.
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The offices there were quite plush.
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Al Fayed had a very big office,
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{\an8}and along the hallway
were all the management offices
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{\an8}for his top brass.
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It seemed quite glamorous,
to begin with.
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Before I started working at Harrods,
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I was introduced to his top PA.
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She looked through my CV.
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Al Fayed came in.
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He gave her the nod,
and I was offered the job.
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But before I took the job,
I needed to have a medical.
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Everyone had them, and it's just
an extra perk of the job,
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I was told.
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{\an8}We were told to go
for a medical check-up
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{\an8}with Dr Ann Coxon in Harley Street.
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{\an8}I was told that it was because
his son Dodi
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{\an8}had a low immune system,
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{\an8}and so everybody in the office
needed to be checked.
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{\an8}Ahead of time, nobody said,
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{\an8}"By the way, when you come in
for your medical,
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"you're going to be given
an internal sexual health test,"
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because I think I would have had
time to worry about that.
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It just happened.
They told me as I was there.
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This is from a doctor, Wendy Snell,
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who was the Harrods doctor
at the time.
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It says, "The gynaecological swabs,
including chlamydia,
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"also showed no signs of infection,
a very reassuring finding."
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So I don't know who
that's reassuring for.
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{\an8}At one point during the medical,
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{\an8}the doctor, Wendy Snell,
who was doing my examinations,
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{\an8}she did my smear test,
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and then she went on
to check my ovaries.
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And I just remember the doctor,
you know,
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saying how wonderful he was,
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and didn't he look
after his employees so well?
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And, mm...
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My results were actually sent
directly to the chairman,
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so quickly that by the time
I'd got back to my desk,
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he knew the results of my tests.
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{\an8}You know, things
should be confidential
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{\an8}between a patient and a doctor.
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{\an8}She certainly did
not conform to that.
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There is no benefit to anybody
in knowing what my sexual health is,
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unless you're planning
to sleep with somebody,
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which I find quite chilling now.
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So, when Mohamed first asked me
to his office,
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I was sort of nervous
and excited at the same time.
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But when I first arrived,
he seemed super friendly,
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sweet and interested, like a nice...
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..man.
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Initially in that first meeting,
he didn't say it,
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but very soon after he said,
"Just call me Papa, Papa."
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He said, "Come to Papa.
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"You only trust me.
I'll look after you."
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I thought it was odd that he said
Papa, because that was weird.
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But then I thought maybe
he did mean it
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in a sort of fatherly way,
initially.
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Only a few days after I'd been
working there, he would sort of...
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..bear hug me to start with
and greet me with a hug and...
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And that was very early on.
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And that that made me feel
a bit weird, you know.
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But then I thought, oh,
he's being nice and protective,
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like a sort of, you know,
fatherly figure.
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But then it just...
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SHE GROANS
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..the hugs became more, well,
sort of...
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..uncomfortable and, erm,
yeah, I didn't feel right.
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And then, I mean, the hugs,
he'd just try and kiss me,
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and I didn't want to be kissed.
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It's like one minute, you know,
he's saying he's going to protect me
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and look after me and he's like...
like a dad or a father,
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and then the next minute
he's trying to kiss me,
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and I don't know what to think.
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I remember seeing an ad in the paper
for temporary shop floor assistants
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at Harrods,
met with the recruiter there,
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and then, like a couple
minutes later,
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Mohamed Al Fayed
walked into the room,
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basically looked me
up and down and said,
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yeah, when can I start?
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He asked me to go along
to his private residence
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at Park Lane the following day
to set things up.
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60 Park Lane is a big block
of apartments
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situated right next door
to the Dorchester Hotel,
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and I think he pretty much
owns the whole block,
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if I'm not mistaken.
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There are lots of flats in there,
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as well as his private quarters.
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I first noticed that Mohamed
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had this sort of modus operandi
every day.
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He would call one senior assistant
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and ask which girls
were working that day.
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Then one of us would be summoned
to his office.
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So, do you remember the first time
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{\an8}that you were sent up to
Al Fayed's office?
295
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{\an8}I do remember the first time.
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{\an8}It took a while to be asked
to go up there.
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{\an8}I think when we were
on our back row,
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we were wondering why everyone else
was going up and we weren't.
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I remember that first time
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he said, "What are you doing
for the weekend?"
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And I remember saying, oh,
I was going home to my parents.
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And he presented me with a £50 note.
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"Here's some money to go towards
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"taking something home
for your parents."
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I remember feeling like, "Hmm."
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You know, "Why are you giving
me some money?"
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And then I remember him
just doing this.
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SHE GROANS
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"So, just, just say
thank you to me."
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So I was encouraged to give him
a kiss on the cheek.
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One of those, after a while, became,
you know, he would...
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..kind of grab your face
and he would push it to his lips.
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And it was just, you know,
there was nothing you could do.
314
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He had his hands in, you know,
on your face.
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My experience was pretty
much identical.
316
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And it's something that we buried
for 30 years.
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My one time of going into
his private sitting room
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was...was essentially my last day.
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And, um, it didn't take long for him
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to come towards me.
321
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Essentially he just...
I was sitting on the sofa
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and he just pushed himself
right on top of me.
323
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I just pushed him.
324
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You know, you...
This happened so quickly,
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and I pushed him and I ran out.
326
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I trusted him,
because he had five children.
327
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Mm. So it wasn't the first
thing to cross my mind,
328
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what the sort of long game was,
as far as he was concerned.
329
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He was basically grooming us,
wasn't he? Yeah.
330
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{\an8}I felt deeply ashamed
331
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{\an8}about what happened at Harrods
332
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{\an8}and my life and my time
with Mohamed.
333
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From the day it happened to now,
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I haven't really ever spoken
in any detail about my experiences.
335
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I was... Literally just turned
16 when I joined Harrods.
336
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Quite often we'd end up working
till seven or eight,
337
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nine o'clock in the evening.
338
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So, quite early on, he asked whether
or not I wanted to have use
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of an apartment, an apartment
block in Park Lane,
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and would I like use of that,
341
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and it was very much sold to me at
the time as, we work late together,
342
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if you don't want to go home,
343
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you can just grab a cab
and you'll be there safely
344
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and you have nothing to worry about.
345
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So I agreed that that would be
a good idea.
346
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That night, he asked that when
I'd seen the apartment,
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would I join him and have a drink.
348
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I was taken up there by a member
of the security team,
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and I remember going into the room,
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I was a bit surprised
that it was a lounge area,
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and then really surprised
when Mohamed came out
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in a dressing gown
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and what appeared like nothing
underneath the dressing gown,
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from what I could gather.
355
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He then poured two glasses
of champagne
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and said, "We have to celebrate.
357
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"This is a good..." You know,
"This is a good day."
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{\an8}He called me into his office,
probably around 9:30 that night,
359
00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,960
on the pretext that he wanted
to show me a painting
360
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that he had recently acquired.
361
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As we're going upstairs into his
private quarters,
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I can hear this little
clicking noise.
363
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,440
And then I realise he has a little
device in his hand
364
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that's actually
locking the doors behind.
365
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,600
It felt like... "Am I going
to be trapped in here?"
366
00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,600
He asked me at Harrods
if I would meet him after work,
367
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,160
if I'd come to Park Lane.
368
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,240
You can go up and you go in the lift
and you see the security around,
369
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,520
so you feel like you're
obviously being watched.
370
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,040
It's really intimidating.
371
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It's a lot of security.
Why is there so much security?
372
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And he came back dressed in
just a silk dressing gown.
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He basically grabbed me
into a slow dance.
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00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,400
He was holding me really tightly...
into, like, a clench.
375
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,120
He grabbed my right arm
376
00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:59,720
and he just placed
it aggressively over his...
377
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,560
I could feel he had an erection.
378
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,960
When he started to touch me,
379
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I think the first thing I said
380
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was, "What are you doing?"
381
00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:08,680
I genuinely felt confused
382
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,720
by what was going on.
383
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,720
I remember saying to him,
"You've asked me
384
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,840
"to look at you as a father figure.
385
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,120
"I can't do that
if you're behaving like this.
386
00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:19,000
"This is not how a father
would behave to a daughter."
387
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,600
He pushed me back on the sofa
and he climbed on top of me.
388
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,200
Undid my top, or pulled my top,
put his hand inside my bra.
389
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,680
He was clearly aroused.
390
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,720
Put his hand inside my underwear.
391
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,200
Put his hand inside me.
392
00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:38,680
And I remember just thinking,
393
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,960
"Whatever's going to happen,
just get it over with,"
394
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,400
and I just kept saying to him,
"Please don't do this.
395
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,320
"I can't do this."
396
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,920
He started to sort of get closer
and closer and closer,
397
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,440
and he's pushed himself onto me
and pushed me down on the sofa.
398
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,120
You know, putting his hands down
my top and up my skirt,
399
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,960
and he was getting heavier
and heavier and heavier.
400
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,280
I was scared.
401
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,480
And he just pushed himself
on top of me, but I'm strong
402
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,360
and I started kicking him,
and I kicked him, and I kicked him,
403
00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:13,240
and I kicked him, and I kicked him
off, and I kicked him really hard.
404
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,960
I thought, "He's going to rape me."
405
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,720
Definitely thought
he was going to rape me.
406
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,280
His trousers coming down.
407
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,800
Get him off! Get him off!
Get him off! GET HIM OFF!
408
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,480
I can't...from that day to this,
409
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,400
work out what stopped him.
410
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,800
It would have been really obvious
to whoever took me back
411
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,000
to my apartment that something
had happened in there.
412
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,000
I was dishevelled, I was crying.
413
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,800
I was clearly shocked.
414
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,760
I don't think I slept a wink
that night.
415
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,640
I joined Harrods to be a buyer
and it was so far, everything,
416
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,640
my whole life was so far
from that now.
417
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,880
It was just a living nightmare.
418
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,040
He used to sort of make you feel
419
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,320
like he really cared
420
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,840
for your safety.
421
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I was...19.
422
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,200
He called me and said,
"Yeah, you finish late tonight?
423
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"How are you getting home?"
I said, "I'll just take a cab."
424
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,120
He said, "No, it's dangerous.
425
00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,520
"You know, you want to stay
in one of the apartments?"
426
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,000
So I said yes.
427
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,400
Then the phone went
and it was Mohamed saying,
428
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,800
"Yeah, you all right?
What are you doing?
429
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,960
"You like the apartment?"
430
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,840
And he said,
"I've got something to show you.
431
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,880
"Will you come up?"
432
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,720
And I found myself in his apartment
433
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,720
and...he asked me to sit on the bed.
434
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,160
And his hand's on my leg.
435
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,160
He was kind of laughing, joking.
436
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,600
But he would get firmer in his grip
437
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,440
and it's very obvious what he wants.
438
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,200
I'm trying to get up.
439
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,280
I made it obvious that I didn't want
THAT to happen.
440
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,040
I did not give consent.
441
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,120
I just wanted it to be over.
442
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:30,240
I just remember feeling...
443
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,000
his body on me...
444
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,840
..the weight of him.
445
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,320
Just hearing him
make these noises...
446
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,600
and then...just going
somewhere else in my head.
447
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,560
He raped me.
448
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,480
When he was done, he said,
"Go and wash."
449
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,160
You blame yourself.
450
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,840
You really blame yourself.
451
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,040
You're there to do a job,
but that's your boss
452
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,720
standing there in front of you
in a dressing gown.
453
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,960
And even when you're trying to get
out of the situation,
454
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,680
I'm trying not to offend him.
455
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,360
I think it was 2018 when I first
found out about this from Sophia.
456
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,440
I'm a TV producer by profession
457
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,960
and I couldn't let it go.
458
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,800
I just had to just get
to the bottom of it.
459
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,360
I've spoken to certainly dozens,
460
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:48,480
but certainly I know to be of
affected, and I want to speak to,
461
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,000
we're into triple figures.
462
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,080
Things have kind of seeped out
before about him,
463
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,000
but those allegations have been on
more the mild side
464
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,520
of things - sexual harassment.
465
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:10,320
But I've spoken to at least four
women who have categorically told me
466
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,640
they were raped by Fayed.
467
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,800
He was a complete monster.
468
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,360
And I just knew I needed
to get that out there.
469
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:23,200
I can't believe the web, how big
it's getting, how large it is.
470
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,840
It's horrifying.
471
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,160
He had this dome around him
of either security
472
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,080
or his staff members.
473
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,480
Not all of these knew what was
going on, but many did.
474
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,520
Why they are helpful to talk to me
is because they can help corroborate
475
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,720
the culture of fear there
at the time,
476
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,560
or what the routines were,
how Fayed operated.
477
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,360
I joined the recruitment department,
478
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,480
and then was promoted
479
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,720
to become personnel manager for...
480
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,640
..two areas of the store.
481
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,880
From time to time, I would get
a call from one of, um...
482
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,560
..Mr Mohamed's secretaries,
asking me
483
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,040
about a specific sales assistant
that Mr Mohamed had seen
484
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,000
while he was walking the store,
485
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000
and could I please either interview
them for a job in his office
486
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000
or he would like to interview them.
487
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,880
And in the early days,
I think I was naive enough
488
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,760
to think that he was giving them
a career opportunity,
489
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,600
but quite quickly I knew
differently.
490
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,240
If there were requests that came
along like that, I would...
491
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,120
I would pretend that I hadn't
been able to find them.
492
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:39,600
I thought that might just deflect
his attention away from them.
493
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,280
My name's Tony.
I worked in Harrods for ten years.
494
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,840
{\an8}I worked at the toy department,
which was fantastic,
495
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,160
for about a year, and then I was
moved to the Egyptian Hall
496
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,920
to take a department manager
position.
497
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,720
The Egyptian Hall was a
sort of shrine to Egypt
498
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,800
within the department store.
499
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,240
On the lower ground floor,
you've got a mini sphinx,
500
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,800
and all along the walls
501
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,640
you've got Egyptian-style columns
and architecture.
502
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,440
INTERVIEWER: There seems to be
a slight resemblance
503
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,440
between the Sphinx on the wall
and yourself.
504
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Yeah, it happened that...
I don't know how,
505
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,440
but it happened that
I look like the Sphinx.
506
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,040
The daily walk, he would either
start or finish
507
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,160
at the Egyptian Hall
with the pipers.
508
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,880
The bagpipers were security
guards in the Egyptian Hall,
509
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,560
so I spent a lot of time,
you know,
510
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,920
talking to the security guards
there, yeah.
511
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,200
They got more gossip from the
close-knit security.
512
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,600
They spent the whole time with him
513
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,480
and they sort of would pass
on little stories
514
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,440
about what he was up to.
515
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,160
They would say things like,
you know, there was groping,
516
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,440
nonconsensual touching.
517
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,160
I guess molestation perhaps
would be hinted at.
518
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,040
It was well known, everybody knew
about it, and it was a joke,
519
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,000
and it was laughed about.
It was like, "Oh, you know, he's...
520
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,160
"You know, this person's going to be
a manager of..."
521
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,360
Or, you know, "..a manager in five
minutes because she's gone up to...
522
00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,560
"..she's gone up to Al Fayed's
office. Ha-ha-ha!"
523
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,680
This sort of thing. It was...
It was very jokey.
524
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,160
Yeah, looking back on it now,
525
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,000
it's, it's pretty repellent,
honestly, actually.
526
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,480
And I was part of that,
I must admit.
527
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,800
It was a horrible,
horrible nightmare.
528
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,600
It was really hard to get out of it.
529
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,880
I can't explain how it ground me
down every single day.
530
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,800
I couldn't leave, I didn't have
a home to go back to,
531
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,480
I had to pay rent and I knew
I had to go through this
532
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,680
and I didn't want to.
533
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,880
It was horrible.
534
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,840
And I... And my head was scrambled.
535
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,400
I'd gone at the age of 16
536
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,760
and ended up working
537
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,800
for Mohamed relatively quickly.
538
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,200
So all of those experiences, to me,
539
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,040
after four years, became my norm.
540
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,800
And I think that's
one of the hardest things,
541
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,920
thinking back to that whole
experience now,
542
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,520
is that we all stood and watched
each other walk through that door,
543
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,960
thinking..."You poor girl,
it's you today,"
544
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,800
and feeling utterly powerless
to stop it.
545
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,600
I have exactly the same feeling
now of regret,
546
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,920
frustration about Al Fayed
547
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,440
that I had about Jimmy Savile.
548
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,560
The late '80s were a fascinating
time for journalism
549
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,880
and, of course, the Royal family
550
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,760
were the focus
of huge, huge attention,
551
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,320
particularly Princess Diana.
552
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,720
And colourful characters like
Al Fayed were also fascinating.
553
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,520
When I was at the News Of The World,
554
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,840
this would be about 1986-87,
555
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,200
there had been rumours about him
556
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,840
molesting or harassing
young female employees.
557
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,520
We did hear about a girl who was,
I think, about 18 at the time,
558
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760
who he'd...he'd groped.
559
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:07,080
We did manage to speak to her,
but she was basically terrified.
560
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880
She made it plain that this wasn't
unusual with Al Fayed,
561
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,960
but, you know, she certainly
wasn't going to start
562
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,680
giving interviews about it
563
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,080
and she was terrified of the
repercussions
564
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,040
if she did, and that she felt
that no-one else would, either,
565
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,760
that his power and, you know,
and intimidatory qualities
566
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,920
meant that no-one
would actually speak out.
567
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,080
There was most definitely a culture
of fear across the whole store,
568
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,280
from the lowliest of the low
to the most senior person.
569
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,480
You're on the shop floor
570
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,720
and these, I think, five or six
burly security guards
571
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320
start barging through
your department.
572
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,240
The majority of the security guards
573
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,480
were all either special forces
or army or ex-police.
574
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,480
It was well known in Harrods
that the phones might be tapped.
575
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,000
I was told, "Sit there,
and even if there's no work,
576
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,640
"kind of look like you're working,
577
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,520
"because in that flowerpot across
the hallway, there's a camera."
578
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,200
That's why none of the other girls,
579
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,520
we couldn't talk to each other
properly about it,
580
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,680
because we all thought we were
being bugged.
581
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,360
There's this one particular evening
582
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,040
where I'd gone back
to the apartment.
583
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,480
I laid on the bed.
584
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,800
The phone rang. I picked it up.
585
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,160
He just went, "Yeah,
why are you lying like that?"
586
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,200
"And I was naked at the time."
587
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,120
My whole body turned cold
because what I then realised
588
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,280
was clearly there was some sort
of surveillance
589
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,880
actually in the apartment itself.
590
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,640
The abuse against women, I mean,
591
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,160
I was aware of it when I was on
the shop floor. I knew.
592
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,360
And what I think, if I know,
everybody knew.
593
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,160
Anyone who says they didn't,
they're lying, I'm sorry.
594
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,560
They're lying.
It wasn't even a secret.
595
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,800
It was known around
the whole company.
596
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Again, security knew.
597
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920
And I would say that they should
come forward and speak up.
598
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,200
I can understand why some colleagues
I have, or people that I work with
599
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,480
who don't want to speak up
about these events.
600
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,960
{\an8}They are afraid of, if they don't
show total loyalty to a principal
601
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560
then it's going to affect
their future employment.
602
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,960
But they all know deep down
in their hearts
603
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,320
that what occurred
was tragic for those victims.
604
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,560
I did notice on many occasions
when we arrive, say, for instance,
605
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,400
perfume departments, he would get
the manager, before he arrived,
606
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,640
to line up the girls,
four or five young ladies.
607
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,000
They were literally on parade
and he went to each individual one
608
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,400
as if to, you know, size them up.
609
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,240
As time went on,
our senior managers would say,
610
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,880
"You are aware that Mr Al Fayed
doesn't want you speaking
611
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,400
"to any female members of staff.
612
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,760
But we did know that certain things
were happening
613
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,320
to certain female employees
at Harrods and Park Lane.
614
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,960
We have a control room in the
basement with security cameras,
615
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
but they only observed the corridors
616
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,400
up to Mr Al Fayed's
private residence doors,
617
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,560
so we would only see the girls
going in to the door
618
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,560
and then close the door behind him.
619
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,080
And then in the morning we'd see
them depart, or even after an hour.
620
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Some were wearing the Harrods
uniform still.
621
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,480
I did question it.
I said that's strange behaviour,
622
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,840
but they said, "Well, if you're not
happy with that,
623
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,560
"you know where the door is."
624
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,920
{\an8}I worked for Mohamed Al Fayed
from the mid '80s to the early '90s.
625
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,360
Six years in total.
626
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,960
You would normally, for a principal,
627
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,560
if you're there, your job
is to protect his life.
628
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,080
I can say for myself
and a few others
629
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,280
that you wouldn't stand in front
of a gun for Al Fayed.
630
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,600
If he was seeing girls,
it would be in Park Lane.
631
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,560
One instance, two girls
came into the building
632
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,560
and we were told to send them up
to the top floor,
633
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,800
and then later on they came down
and came out of the lift,
634
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,760
and one of them was really upset
and crying,
635
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,040
and I took her outside and said,
"What's the matter?"
636
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440
She said, "It's horrible, horrible.
637
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,920
"We went into his apartment
and he disappeared,
638
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,160
"then came out in his dressing gown
and pyjamas
639
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,600
"and wanted us to sit on his lap
and everything else."
640
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040
And the poor kid was in bits.
641
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,960
HE EXHALES
642
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,600
Now you would think, you know,
you want to smack him in the mouth.
643
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,840
But then you never saw it happen,
644
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,120
because it was in his personal
apartment.
645
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,960
So what could you do?
And who do you go to?
646
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Him?
647
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,320
He had no doubt in his mind
that he was...
648
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,000
His advances were unwelcome
and nonconsensual.
649
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,520
There were tons of women
that would have had sex with him
650
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,760
because he was a very wealthy
and very powerful man.
651
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Still he chose to pursue people
that he terrified.
652
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,760
And he came in the bathroom
653
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,320
and started to touch me.
654
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,640
He turned me round.
655
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,120
He pushed me against the wall
656
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,920
and his hands came round my throat.
657
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Before, I'd always felt the worst
thing that could ever happen
658
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,640
was him raping me.
659
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,280
That day, I felt like the worst
thing that could happen
660
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,080
is that he could stop me breathing.
661
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,080
Once I started finding more and more
and more women,
662
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,480
they would tell me
what they went through.
663
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,560
It's not something you can
just leave.
664
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,760
Every waking minute,
I would think about it
665
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,400
and I wouldn't stop again
until Sophia woke up
666
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,920
in the middle of the night to come
and order me to go to bed.
667
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,120
What's been horrifying is the level
of prestigious institutions
668
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,880
that this abuse has taken place at.
669
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,360
We've got Harrods.
670
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,480
We've then got the Ritz Hotel,
which is the jewel of Paris.
671
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,920
Some of the worst horrors I've heard
672
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,840
have been over in France,
unfortunately.
673
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,680
Mohamed owned lots of properties,
many abroad.
674
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,320
He owned the Ritz in Paris
675
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,960
and the Villa Windsor
in Bois de Boulogne.
676
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,240
And he'd often go over there for
trips to visit his properties.
677
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,920
He asked me to come along.
678
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,520
I was, again, very nervous,
679
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,920
but you couldn't say no.
680
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,640
He wanted me to fly over to Paris
681
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,360
that evening,
682
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,880
go and interview some
of the chefs at the Paris Ritz.
683
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,920
When the plane landed,
I was tapped on the shoulder
684
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,640
and it was one of Mr Mohamed's
close security officers.
685
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,800
And I said,
"Well, where are we going?"
686
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,200
And they said, Mr Mohamed's
at the Ritz.
687
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,280
And we got to the Ritz
688
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,600
and the security officer
who wasn't driving
689
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,400
got out of the car, went inside
and was back within minutes
690
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,040
and said, "Mr Mohamed has left
for the day.
691
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,240
"He's at the house in the Bois."
692
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,080
The house in the Bois de Boulogne
was a house that Mohamed bought
693
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,200
and restored to its former glory.
694
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,240
{\an8}This house, just outside Paris
in the Bois de Boulogne,
695
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,160
{\an8}was to be the home of the
Duke and Duchess of Windsor
696
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,720
{\an8}for nearly 20 years.
697
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:29,960
FAYED: This love story
will stay forever.
698
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,080
And by preserving this house...
699
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,040
..my dreams came true to preserve
as a mausoleum to this love story,
700
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,840
which I believe tremendously.
701
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,360
You would give up everything
for a woman? Absolutely.
702
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,600
Absolutely. Because again,
it's my life.
703
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,360
It's my happiness.
704
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,120
It's my pleasure.
705
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,480
And I want to live.
I want to enjoy life.
706
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,240
And you're romantic?
Absolutely. Of course.
707
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:55,600
Of course.
708
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,400
Villa Windsor is definitely
not a place of love.
709
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,640
It was a place of being scared
and terrified.
710
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,800
{\an8}Seeing the Villa Windsor on
The Crown evoked so many memories.
711
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,880
When I saw the state
the villa was in,
712
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,560
I said, "Money is no object."
713
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,760
Restoring it will be my honour
and pleasure.
714
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:26,240
I don't want him to be seen
as some kind of hero.
715
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,440
A former King of England lived here.
716
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,920
It just takes me back
to when he took me there.
717
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,840
And they're not good memories.
718
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,200
I came in up the steps
into the hallway,
719
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,720
and I was taken into the salon,
and the door closed.
720
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,120
Mr Mohamed was there.
721
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,400
He asked me to come and sit
on the sofa with him.
722
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,360
I started to wonder when he was
going to have the conversation
723
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,720
with me about the interviews
the next day, and it didn't happen.
724
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:11,320
So I instigated that conversation,
and he kept deflecting me away
725
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,880
from that and saying,
"Don't worry about this.
726
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,440
"You will... You will stay
with me tonight."
727
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,480
And I stood up and said,
"I'm not staying."
728
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Where he was standing was in quite
close proximity to the wall behind
729
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,840
that had a doorway that was open,
730
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,000
and he took my right wrist and he
pulled me through that doorway,
731
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,400
and it was a bedroom
and there was a bed,
732
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,440
and he pushed me in and onto the bed
733
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:44,760
and then put his right leg
over my hips so that I couldn't move
734
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,480
and held both my wrists.
735
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,080
And I was terrified.
736
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,120
This time I was even more scared,
because I wasn't at home,
737
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,280
I was in France,
I was in Villa Windsor,
738
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,920
{\an8}and he'd come upstairs
into my room.
739
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,600
{\an8}Um, I was absolutely terrified.
740
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,160
I was under the covers.
741
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,000
He was wearing his dressing gown,
undone like that,
742
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,320
got into bed with me and was trying
to kiss me and push himself on me
743
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,760
and I, again, I just...
I don't know how I did it.
744
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,360
I just kicked him off.
745
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,440
I kicked and kicked and kicked
and kicked and screamed -
746
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,760
and, again, I got him off,
747
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,480
and I was just...just terrified.
748
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,960
When Mohamed was assaulting me,
749
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,040
because of the force
of the situation...
750
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,440
..I believed he was attempting
to rape me.
751
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,760
The first thing that came into my
head to try and get away
752
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,240
was, "We can't do this
because I need to have a shower."
753
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,400
He released his grip.
754
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,040
I got out of the room
as quickly as I possibly could,
755
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,560
and I was shown into
a small bedroom.
756
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,960
I closed the door.
757
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,960
I immediately tried to see if there
was a lock and there was no lock.
758
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,280
And I got the chair and put
the chair under the door.
759
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,640
So I turned the shower on so it
sounded like I was showering
760
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,920
to sort of cover any noise
I might be making.
761
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,240
I put every item of clothing on
that I had
762
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:15,080
so that if I slept through the night
and he tried to come in,
763
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,480
it would take him a lot longer
to get to what he wanted.
764
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,960
Then...
765
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,480
..I might have a chance to get away.
766
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,920
I hadn't asked,
"Where am I staying?"
767
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,560
Because surely Harrods
768
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,280
would have booked us a hotel room
769
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,760
and made sure of our safety.
770
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Not delivered us like
lambs to the slaughter
771
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,600
to Al Fayed's house.
772
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,560
You know, he threw himself
on top of me.
773
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,280
His hands were all over me.
774
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,960
And you know, I was wearing a dress.
775
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120
He was very, very forceful.
776
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,000
I, thank God, reacted and kicked
him off,
777
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,960
ran down the hallway
into my room in sheer terror
778
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,080
because I just didn't know
what would happen, you know?
779
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,000
Then about a week later, I got
a letter in the post from Harrods
780
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,320
telling me that I had had
my employment terminated
781
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,200
because I didn't use the right
staff door.
782
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,240
Yeah.
783
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,320
Nothing to do with the sexual abuse.
784
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,760
Shortly after that, there was
an evening when my then boyfriend
785
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,880
and I had been out for a dinner.
786
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,080
We came round the corner,
heading back to our car,
787
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,840
and one of Mohamed's
close security guards
788
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,520
was just standing in the street
looking straight at me.
789
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,560
And I said, "Oh, hello.
What are you doing here?"
790
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,040
And he said, "Ah, that's the
question. What are YOU doing here?"
791
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,160
And I believed that because
I had said no to Mohamed,
792
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,760
they were just keeping tabs on me to
make sure I wasn't telling anybody,
793
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,920
which made me even more fearful.
794
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,280
What do you think those women
could have done in that situation
795
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,160
with a man that's very wealthy,
has a lot of security?
796
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,440
What could they do?
797
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,760
All they could do would be go
to the police, wouldn't it?
798
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,200
But nothing would happen
because he was too powerful.
799
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,840
Can you imagine being 22?
800
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,160
A, you've got to tell your parents
801
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,760
that you've been abused
by your boss.
802
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,280
B, you've then got to get someone
to go to the police with you.
803
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,800
Three, you're fighting one of the
most powerful men in the country.
804
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,600
Where's that going to go?
805
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,200
The spider's web of corruption
806
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,800
and abuse in this company
807
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,880
was unbelievable and very dark.
808
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,120
Any place of work has a duty
809
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,080
to ensure the safety
of its employees.
810
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,960
When you take that to
a classic place like Harrods,
811
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,160
without question, the company
failed these ladies.
812
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,640
That's why we step in,
813
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,360
because they just did nothing
to actually prevent this.
814
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,680
They did the opposite.
They enabled it.
815
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,640
We're one of a number of
representatives
816
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,760
that are acting for survivors
of this horrific case.
817
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680
How are we? Very well.
818
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,320
This case has been quite
an eye-opener for me.
819
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,200
It really has, in many ways.
820
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,200
In terms of the severity? Yeah.
821
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:48,120
And also the, um, extent
of responsibility that I felt
822
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,880
with - we've got now
over 15 survivors
823
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,040
and it's growing every day.
824
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,480
If what these ladies say is right -
and we've no reason to dispute it -
825
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,880
then Fayed clearly was an absolute
menace to society.
826
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,480
He was a serial sex abuser.
A serial sex abuser.
827
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,320
First of all,
828
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,640
we're going towards a claim
829
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,400
for an unsafe system of work.
830
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,760
Yeah.
831
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:19,560
We are in possession of material
to suggest that the extent
832
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,360
of the knowledge of those who were
significant in Harrods
833
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,560
did rather make it, effectively,
834
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,600
at least an acquiescence
to what was going on.
835
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,760
It's very much all sides
coming together
836
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,760
of acquiescence in the abuse,
the selection process,
837
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,800
the actual acts themselves,
838
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,760
and then effectively the ability
of the arms, the tentacles,
839
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,800
to make sure that it's covered up.
840
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,400
One of the questions is,
why was nothing said at the time?
841
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,160
It limited opportunities.
842
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,960
They couldn't go to HR
because that was internal
843
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,840
and was controlled by the senior
figures at Harrods. Yeah, yeah.
844
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,000
Where do they go?
It's understandable that people
845
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,080
would think, "Well, there's nowhere
for me to go."
846
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,640
There's really only one area where
you do go if you seek redress...
847
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,160
And that's the press.
..and that's the press, to say,
848
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,720
"Actually, this is something very
badly wrong here."
849
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,800
I had quite a number of
conversations with Maureen Orth
850
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,200
and started to talk
about the safety in numbers thing.
851
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,760
This kind of, you're not alone.
852
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,560
So I agreed to give a statement,
but to do it anonymously.
853
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,680
You've got to remember,
the people that we work for,
854
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,920
they have secrets that a lot
of people don't know about,
855
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,040
and the only people that know
those secrets are a security team.
856
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,600
John Macnamara was head of security
857
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,400
at the time.
858
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,000
His background was with
the Metropolitan Police,
859
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,400
that he'd been a senior officer,
860
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,880
and that he was now in control
861
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,760
of all Mr Al Fayed's security
arrangements.
862
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,120
But he was a nasty piece of work,
you know,
863
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,520
would threaten people and things
864
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,800
and use his power as an ex-copper.
865
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,920
I know for a fact Macnamara
knocked on someone's door personally
866
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,680
and threatened a girl.
867
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,480
"ALICE": John Macnamara contacted me
before the article was published
868
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,760
at a point where I was living
at a different address,
869
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,200
different telephone number
and different work,
870
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,880
and I had no idea how he'd found me,
871
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,960
and said I wasn't to be involved
in that article.
872
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,760
But if I went against his advice
873
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,080
that just to be aware
that he knew where my parents lived.
874
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,440
It turned me cold.
875
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,800
And after I spoke to Maureen,
876
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,920
I've never spoken to anybody else
877
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,640
for fear of just what it
might bring.
878
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,640
Mohamed Al Fayed never influenced
anything that we published,
879
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,880
much as he sometimes tried to,
880
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,720
but Al Fayed cultivated
influential people,
881
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:17,520
made them generous offers
of free items from Harrods,
882
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,280
{\an8}and he also tried
that on journalists.
883
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,200
But if it had come back
out in the mid '80s -
884
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,920
groping, propositioning - he would
never have got anywhere near
885
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,440
that he did get to the royal family.
886
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,000
Princess Diana would never
have entertained going on a holiday
887
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,720
with Dodi Fayed.
888
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:37,400
He would have been disgraced.
889
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,800
I think he would have had difficulty
holding on to Harrods
890
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,520
or even staying out of jail.
891
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,480
NEWS ARCHIVE: For British
royal watchers,
892
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,920
it has been another day of float
off the coast of Saint-Tropez.
893
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,840
Their focus,
Mohamed Al Fayed's villa,
894
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,160
where the Princess
and her sons are holiday guests.
895
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,400
This afternoon she boarded
a 150-foot cruiser,
896
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,360
also belonging to the Harrods boss,
to sail away from Saint-Tropez,
897
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,680
to slip away from the media glare.
898
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,240
Watching that clip of Saint-Tropez
brought back a lot of memories
899
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,600
of my two summers I spent there.
900
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,120
Say "Hi", boys.
901
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,720
I think it was a very good
replica villa that they found
902
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,280
for the location.
903
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,640
Your Royal Highness.
904
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,160
Mou Mou.
905
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Yeah, it was a beautiful place,
for sure.
906
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,320
But, for me,
907
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,320
it had some bad memories.
908
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,680
Here I am in the grounds.
909
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,880
And this is an actual shot
of the bedroom I stayed in,
910
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,440
which was adjacent to the office.
911
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,240
Prior to going to Saint-Tropez,
912
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:57,160
I was told that I needed to go and
have another check up with Dr Coxon,
913
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,000
and when I got to the villa,
I could see that Mohamed,
914
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,680
he was absolutely livid.
915
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,760
He came up to me with a bottle
of Dettol disinfectant in his hand,
916
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,000
and his first words to me were,
"Who have you been fucking?"
917
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,240
I didn't know what he was
talking about.
918
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,680
"I got the medical report back
from Dr Coxon
919
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,840
"and it shows that you have,
you know, an STD."
920
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,680
He said, "You have a dirty pussy
and you're a fucking whore.
921
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,760
"You need to bathe in this."
922
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,200
He then handed me a packet of pills.
923
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,600
He said, "You need to take
these pills, one every night,
924
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,480
"to clear up your infection."
925
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,320
I certainly didn't take the pills,
926
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,360
and I certainly didn't put Dettol
in my bath.
927
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,440
And it wasn't until a few days later
when I called home to my mum,
928
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,080
who at the time was working
in a London hospital,
929
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,520
and I just asked her
sort of casually
930
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,280
if she knew what these pills were,
and she was like,
931
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,720
"Yeah, they're a major sedative,
tranquilliser-type drug."
932
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,360
A few nights later,
I was in my bedroom
933
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,880
and I could feel him sort of
rattling the door, trying to get in.
934
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,840
I thought, "Oh, my God,
he's going to come back
935
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,560
"and he's going to come in."
936
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,440
He's expecting
I've taken these pills.
937
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,520
He thinks I'm passed out and,
you know, do what he wants to me.
938
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,280
And sure enough, he came back.
939
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,040
I could hear the door jangling
again, trying to get in.
940
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:30,080
And I think that was definitely
the night that he attempted rape.
941
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,680
Certainly, I think that was
his intention.
942
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,680
NEWS ARCHIVE: After the
Princess's holiday
943
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,200
aboard Mohamed Al Fayed's yacht,
944
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,200
the media interest in the couple
became intense.
945
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,840
You must be pleased for your son.
946
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,520
It's his business.
Thank you very much.
947
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,400
{\an8}I was the United Kingdom editor
of Vanity Fair in the '90s.
948
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,800
My role was to support everything
in the story.
949
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080
I've never talked
about it before, no.
950
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,160
This is the stuff
got stranded with me.
951
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,360
And this is just a tiny
fraction of what we have.
952
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,640
And there were massive, masses,
amounts of interviews, statements,
953
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,160
affidavits, supporting evidence.
954
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,760
Within those affidavits,
955
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,200
there is evidence
of serial criminality.
956
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,000
Looking at them again, I really
think we had a very strong case.
957
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,920
I was approached by Vanity Fair
back in the 1990s.
958
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,960
They tracked me down, I think,
959
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,160
because whoever was on the door
960
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,040
at Park Lane when I left
961
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,200
must have seen the state I was in
962
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,520
and remembered me
or remembered my name.
963
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:04,240
That evening, I'd already talked to
him about the idea
964
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,720
of wanting to be an actress.
965
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:10,840
When I walked in, we sat down and he
started talking about how Dodi
966
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,520
was about to start producing
the prequel to Hook,
967
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,840
and he gave me the script
and he said,
968
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,480
"Read that passage from the script,
straight to camera,
969
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,520
"and then I'll send it on to Dodi."
970
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,520
In context, it was fine,
971
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,240
but out of context it was
"Take me, take me, please."
972
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,440
He comes round from behind
the camera and he grabs me
973
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,280
and he kisses me on the mouth
and I push him away.
974
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,240
And I do...
I sort of say, "What are you doing?"
975
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:44,800
He said, "Right,
if you won't sleep with me,
976
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,480
"I'm not helping you
with your acting career."
977
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:52,240
And I thought,
"Get out, I've got to get out."
978
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,480
I was able to get my things
and get out.
979
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,560
NEWS ARCHIVE: Since the start of
speculation about a new romance,
980
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,040
tabloid photographers have laid
siege to the Park Lane home
981
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,760
of Dodi Fayed.
982
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,760
Late last night,
the arrival of a car
983
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,200
similar to that owned
by the Princess of Wales
984
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,520
led to reports that the two
were sharing an intimate meal.
985
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,360
Frustratingly for the photographers,
986
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,080
there was no opportunity
to see the diners,
987
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,480
although their own activities
were constantly monitored
988
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,520
by security cameras which protect
this exclusive part of Mayfair.
989
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,760
So I thought this was
a big, big worry.
990
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,240
I thought he would almost certainly
use his security equipment,
991
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:35,840
his CCTV, his bugging equipment,
992
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,520
to record some part
of this relationship.
993
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,960
Fayed would just use her
like he used everybody.
994
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,160
I let a friend of hers know.
995
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,800
I'm not even sure that the message
reached her.
996
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,880
But we did have this one
attempt to set us up.
997
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,720
Fayed had a lot of people
working for him.
998
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:04,640
They asked for
a private meeting with me
999
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,280
and they offered... It was a man
called Paul Handley-Greaves.
1000
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,480
His story was that he had been
fired by Mohamed,
1001
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,800
but then he said he would like
to come to our side
1002
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:21,400
and offer us this video of Fayed
having sex with an employee.
1003
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,440
Now, of course,
if that had been the case,
1004
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,720
that would have been gold dust,
but it was too easy.
1005
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:28,240
Who's going to make that tape?
1006
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,880
It's not Fayed and it's not
going to be his security people.
1007
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,520
That tape does not exist.
1008
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,840
So I said if such a tape existed
and I offered you money
1009
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,480
or even accepted it,
I'd be in breach of the law
1010
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,360
because I'd be receiving
stolen goods.
1011
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,600
Anyway, somebody - I won't say who -
did make an offer.
1012
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,200
And we looked completely idiotic.
1013
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,200
To that degree, we were at war.
1014
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,040
One afternoon, I got a phone call
from somebody.
1015
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,400
{\an8}Mr Al Fayed wanted to ask me
if I would bear witness
1016
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,360
{\an8}to his good character in a court
proceedings
1017
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,280
{\an8}that he had taken out
against the journalist.
1018
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,320
And I said, "If you think
I'm going to bear witness
1019
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,320
"to his good character,
you've got another thing coming."
1020
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,000
And hoped that that was that.
1021
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:28,520
But received a courier package
a few days later
1022
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:34,680
that included a statement
that I had supposedly given,
1023
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,800
witnessing Mohamed's good character,
signed by me,
1024
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,240
and I had not given that statement,
and I had not signed a statement.
1025
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,440
At which point I was
absolutely terrified
1026
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,280
because I thought,
if this can happen,
1027
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,480
what else could happen to me?
1028
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,040
We had a lot of evidence.
We were really in a strong position.
1029
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,800
They couldn't do anything
about Maureen's article.
1030
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,560
Everything we found out in support,
1031
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,840
which is much, much sort of more
damaging than Maureen's article,
1032
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,480
and to have women in court
saying, actually, he came over
1033
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,760
in his dressing gown and offered me
£100 for this or that sexual favour.
1034
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,000
It was completely...
He couldn't have had that.
1035
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,600
This is BBC Television from London.
1036
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,760
Diana, Princess of Wales, has died
after a car crash in Paris.
1037
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,960
The French government
announced her death
1038
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,960
just before 5:00 this morning.
1039
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,960
Diana, Princess of Wales,
had been a passenger in a car
1040
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,480
which crashed in a tunnel
next to the River Seine.
1041
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,280
Her friend Dodi Fayed
and their driver were also killed.
1042
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,840
Everyone was traumatised
by the appalling events in Paris.
1043
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,720
Nobody was thinking about this
libel case after what had happened.
1044
00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:52,400
The moment the crash happened and
Diana was dead and Dodi was dead,
1045
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,880
forget it, you know?
It was a bigger event.
1046
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,440
It was more important
than our dispute.
1047
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,440
This is the letter reporting
a settlement offer
1048
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,800
in the Al Fayed case.
1049
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,920
They're prepared to drop the case.
1050
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,040
And then what they wanted
- and here's the key thing -
1051
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,480
we would destroy everything
we've discovered,
1052
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,760
evidence, affidavits
and correspondence.
1053
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,560
We would never refer
to the case again.
1054
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,840
He'd won the game.
1055
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,800
We had got a case which could go
to court and would have beaten him,
1056
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,120
and the only thing they want to do
is to destroy everything
1057
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,400
that we'd found out
in those two years.
1058
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,600
And that is the crucial proposal
which we accepted.
1059
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,560
I was really cross
that we'd been silenced,
1060
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:48,720
and we would not be able to
publicise what had gone on
1061
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,600
at Harrods and in France,
at the Bois de Boulogne residence.
1062
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,360
NEWS ARCHIVE: Two memorials
to Diana and Dodi
1063
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,320
were in place at Harrods today.
1064
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,080
Tourists came to sign the books
of condolence
1065
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,600
set up outside the store.
1066
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,400
In the afternoon, Mr Al Fayed
arrived to thank them.
1067
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,760
God bless you, darling. It's no
problem. Thank you very much.
1068
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,720
Once the accident happened,
1069
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,520
naturally, he became
extremely famous.
1070
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:22,000
It involved arguably one of
Britain's most important icons
1071
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,920
of the last century.
She was beloved.
1072
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,200
But one can only have empathy
for someone whose child,
1073
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,920
even if it is an adult child, was
killed in such a horrific manner.
1074
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,640
We're at the Pont de l'Alma,
1075
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,240
where the accident that killed
Princess Diana
1076
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,320
and Dodi Al Fayed happened.
1077
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,840
A year later, I was the assistant
to Mohamed Al Fayed.
1078
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,280
As Mohamed Al Fayed's
1079
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,720
executive assistant at the Ritz.
1080
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,280
I was his only assistant
on the European continent.
1081
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,400
I'd say probably 50% had to do
with managing various aspects
1082
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,400
of the investigation.
1083
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,640
But at the same time,
1084
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,440
he could be putting his hand
up my skirt.
1085
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,600
He would take my head and he would
push it into his genitals.
1086
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,520
I realised relatively quickly
I should never sit,
1087
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,880
because then I'm trapped.
1088
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,600
And I couldn't get out.
1089
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,920
I couldn't get out of the chair.
1090
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,920
Mohamed Al Fayed was like
an apex predator.
1091
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,400
Often going into his office,
1092
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,440
when he summoned me, there was
like, um, excitement.
1093
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,360
Like a... Like...
1094
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,960
And then it moved so fast.
1095
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,520
He had done this for so long.
1096
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,560
He enjoyed the chase
and he enjoyed...
1097
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,800
..I guess, the fear in my eyes,
or our eyes.
1098
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,960
I was always consumed with fear.
1099
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,320
I was consumed with keeping my job.
1100
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,400
I just thought,
I'll do two years here.
1101
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,040
I'll get my letter of recommendation
and then just out.
1102
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,600
It will be a trampoline to
something really great.
1103
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,000
Bite the bullet and get through it,
right?
1104
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,520
Before I learned what I have done,
1105
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,560
I had no issue with Mohamed Al Fayed
1106
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,560
at all. I guess I was
sympathetic to him, if anything.
1107
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,280
You know, the whole death
of his son.
1108
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,920
When Dodi died, public sympathy
was so immense
1109
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,480
that he was then untouchable.
1110
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,600
The Big Story, I found reference
to it online
1111
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,640
in some rabbit hole I was down.
1112
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:19,320
We did start to peel the lid
on what Fayed was.
1113
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,040
{\an8}FROM LAPTOP: This young woman
is prepared to talk,
1114
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,960
{\an8}but she's too frightened
to be identified.
1115
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,280
She accuses Mohamed Fayed
of repeated sexual harassment
1116
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,840
when she worked with him at Harrods.
1117
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,760
Some were anonymous because
they were terrified.
1118
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,040
{\an8}When Mr Al Fayed came
into my office,
1119
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,240
{\an8}if I were standing by the filing
cabinet, he would come and grope me,
1120
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:48,040
make obscene remarks about
my sexual life, my private parts.
1121
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:54,080
Nothing in that was as serious
as what we now know to be.
1122
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:59,360
However, clearly he was at
bare minimum exposed as a groper -
1123
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:04,520
and that is sexual harassment,
sexual assault, and that is a crime.
1124
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,560
These allegations were in the open.
1125
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,440
They were out there.
They were public.
1126
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,200
There's no way on the planet that
senior execs at Harrods didn't know,
1127
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,480
but it just carried on continuing.
1128
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,480
It should have caused huge concern,
1129
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,240
but it didn't.
1130
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,080
It bounced off him and before
we know it, he's back on telly,
1131
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,240
acting the clown with Ali G, etc.
1132
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,880
{\an8}Me and you, Mou, is gonna be like
a pair of rappers. Excellent.
1133
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,280
{\an8}Like, I is Snoop. You is Dr Dre.
1134
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,440
{\an8}I is Chuck D, you is Flavor Flav.
1135
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,320
I is the Method Man,
you is the Ol' Dirty Bastard.
1136
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,600
LAUGHTER
You are the dirty bastard, not me!
1137
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:48,920
DJ, give me the beat!
1138
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,240
♪ Here come the shopkeeper
Mohamed
1139
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,880
♪ Here come the shopkeeper
Mohamed
1140
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,360
♪ Him the libel case winner
Al Fayed
1141
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,040
♪ Him got a nice face
1142
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,480
♪ Al Fayed... ♪
1143
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,160
So Mohamed Fayed presented
himself as a clown.
1144
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,040
And people only see the clown.
1145
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,640
Please welcome back
Mohamed Al Fayed.
1146
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,600
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1147
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:12,840
Thank you!
1148
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,560
Thank you, thank you.
1149
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,080
Thank you.
1150
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:27,880
What they don't realise is that
behind that clownish buffoonery,
1151
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:32,200
that eccentricity,
lies a very, very, deeply dark,
1152
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,320
determined sexual predator.
1153
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,480
It is a absolutely classic disguise.
1154
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,480
He went on into the noughties
and later behaving in that way,
1155
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,880
and he never paid for it.
1156
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,440
Look, I know I may appear
as though I've got a teenage crush,
1157
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,040
but there's something intoxicating
about standing next to an anarchist,
1158
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,520
{\an8}especially an anarchist billionaire.
1159
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,280
{\an8}And you can count those
on the fingers of a mitten.
1160
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,960
So when I was hired,
the documentary You're Fayed
1161
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,520
I think just came out
a couple of days beforehand.
1162
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,760
FAYED:
1163
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,880
He did come across as he was
having quite a laugh.
1164
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,280
FROM LAPTOP: Oh, you're naughty!
1165
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,120
He was definitely obsessed with sex.
1166
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,360
{\an8}There was no sense of humour
about it.
1167
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,920
{\an8}It was highly unpleasant.
1168
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,960
{\an8}It became clear to me that this job
was going to be a short one.
1169
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,360
He could definitely be charming,
1170
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,280
but I think that's mostly the image
that he would like to give off.
1171
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:41,120
He used to do a walk around
and talk to members of the public.
1172
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,640
Viagra for tonight. Oh.
1173
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,240
He would hand things out
1174
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,120
and invite people to maybe work
for him in the future.
1175
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,400
And I think it was often quite
an event
1176
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,960
for anybody who he came across.
1177
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,080
I had just turned 14
1178
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,720
when Mum and I...
1179
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,240
..met Mohamed Al Fayed in Harrods.
1180
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,400
Everyone was asking
for photos of him,
1181
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,960
so, you know, we asked
for a photo with him.
1182
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,360
We got chatting and he asked me
1183
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,800
to work for him in Harrods,
1184
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,480
and I said, "I would love to,
but I can't. I'm underage."
1185
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,600
And he said, "It's fine,
we can find a way."
1186
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:30,440
And obviously for me,
I was - of course, how amazing.
1187
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,080
I had started working at Harrods
when I had just turned 15.
1188
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,640
I was told not to talk about my age.
1189
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,560
I started to see him at
the beginning like a father figure,
1190
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,560
you know, just wanted the best
intentions for me.
1191
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,960
And then as time went on,
I just started to see some weird...
1192
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,280
Like, the longer hugs
and the longer kisses,
1193
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,880
and then the phone calls
started happening on my mobile.
1194
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,840
You know, I'm a 15-year-old
1195
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,680
and he's now calling
my personal mobile.
1196
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:06,480
I hope that from today, people see
what he was really like.
1197
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,640
Mohamed Al Fayed is a rapist.
1198
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,240
I think he's a serial rapist.
1199
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,280
I joined in 2007
1200
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,080
and it was my first job in London.
1201
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,800
I think his behaviour was
inappropriate from the start.
1202
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,800
He would make comments about girls
being on their periods,
1203
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,120
grabbing their crotch area,
1204
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,560
not stuff that you would expect
to be spoken about
1205
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,600
in an office environment.
1206
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,000
His behaviour would become
more scary while I was on the trips.
1207
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,800
My first trip was actually
to Abu Dhabi
1208
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,080
and that's when I realised,
1209
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,080
actually, he's not joking,
he's serious.
1210
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,120
I was away in a foreign country
that I'd never visited before
1211
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,520
and he was trying to get in my room
in quite an aggressive manner.
1212
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,320
It was absolutely terrifying.
1213
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,400
The other senior PA, who'd been
travelling with him numerous times,
1214
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,400
she just said, "Look, it's what
he does. He'll give up eventually."
1215
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,120
The incident happened in May 2008.
1216
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,240
I was asked to go to his, um...
1217
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,280
Up to the boardroom.
1218
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,680
He was in a funny mood.
Like, a very bad mood.
1219
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,120
Started just getting really,
like, hugging me
1220
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,400
and touchy and feely
and rubbing himself against me,
1221
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,080
and, um, and then, um,
he just grabbed my face
1222
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:32,240
and tried to, like, just basically
put his tongue in my mouth.
1223
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,400
I mentioned that I was 15,
and what are you doing?
1224
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,040
And he said I was turning
into a beautiful woman,
1225
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,240
and he grabbed my chest.
1226
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:46,920
I pushed him off, and he saw I was
freaked out and scared,
1227
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,200
and he just went into a rage
1228
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,160
and just started screaming
at me and just...
1229
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,840
SOBBING: Sorry.
1230
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,200
I was a child when this happened.
1231
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,080
You know, he was nearly 80
and I was 15.
1232
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,760
I spoke to my parents
1233
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,800
and we all thought the best people
maybe to talk to were the police.
1234
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,160
I was reporting child sex abuse
within a working place.
1235
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,400
And, um, that's when it
all went bad.
1236
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,520
There was a leak
within the police force
1237
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,320
which led to them
going to the press.
1238
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,280
The owner of Harrods,
Mohamed Al Fayed,
1239
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,800
has been interviewed by police
1240
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,360
in connection with an
allegation of sexual assault
1241
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,080
against a girl under 16.
1242
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,680
NEWS REPORT: Mohamed Al Fayed
has denied an allegation
1243
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,320
that he sexually assaulted
a teenage girl.
1244
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,240
I was told not to leave the house.
1245
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,680
I was put in a safe house.
1246
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,200
We were told by the police that
there was an inside investigation
1247
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,920
within the police force
1248
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,440
to why and how my information
had been leaked.
1249
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:53,440
I couldn't trust anyone
at this point.
1250
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:56,800
The allegations, which first
surfaced in a Sunday newspaper,
1251
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,720
are that the schoolgirl met Mr Fayed
1252
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,120
while she was shopping here
with her mother.
1253
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,480
It's alleged he asked for her phone
number and later invited her back.
1254
01:09:05,480 --> 01:09:08,720
She claims it was then that
he sexually assaulted her.
1255
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,640
When the allegations of the
15-year-old girl came about,
1256
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,640
the only time I really knew about it
1257
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,000
was when I was summonsed into
an office with a police officer
1258
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,440
and questioned myself
about his behaviour,
1259
01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:23,480
and if I thought that there was
any chance that he'd done
1260
01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:25,360
what he was being accused of.
1261
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,440
Obviously my answer would
have been yes,
1262
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:31,240
but given I was escorted
by a Harrods lawyer,
1263
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,360
my answers were, "No, he's fine."
1264
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,960
You know, "He's...he's appropriate.
1265
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,160
"I've never seen this behaviour."
1266
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,920
Looking back, I wish I'd been strong
enough and brave enough to say yes,
1267
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,760
I think she was right.
1268
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,320
He did not attend under compulsion
1269
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,640
and the meeting lasted
for less than half an hour.
1270
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,480
Mr Al Fayed vehemently denies
this allegation
1271
01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:00,040
and is confident that his name
will be cleared.
1272
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:06,120
I think if I met that
15-year-old now, I would be...
1273
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,640
I'd be so sorry that I didn't
stick up for her
1274
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,880
and that I didn't do
the right thing.
1275
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,600
I wish I'd been brave enough
at the time, but I just wasn't.
1276
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,400
I think that's what's pushed me
to speak up now.
1277
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,560
It feels like it's a chance
to make right all the wrongs,
1278
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,400
even though we were wronged
ourselves.
1279
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,400
I'm glad she's speaking up now,
1280
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,320
and I appreciate
what she's had to say.
1281
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,120
But it's also, like,
I wish she'd said something.
1282
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,600
But, you know, we're all under...
We live in fear.
1283
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,640
We were all under fear, you know.
He was a scary person.
1284
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,760
So, you know...
1285
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,920
It wasn't until I'd experienced
the more serious side
1286
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,800
of his harassment that I realised
it wasn't something
1287
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,720
he was playing around with.
He was serious.
1288
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,680
And it got to a point where I just
didn't know which way to turn.
1289
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,360
So I bought a small Dictaphone
that I had in my pocket
1290
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,200
in case I needed to record something
that was happening.
1291
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,440
And these are the transcripts
from those recordings.
1292
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,320
It's really, I think, the only kind
of evidence that we've got
1293
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,000
of what he's done to me
and to others.
1294
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:32,120
And one of them was in Paris, in his
residence there, Villa Windsor.
1295
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:37,600
I just put the recorder on,
like, a bedside table,
1296
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:42,440
and obviously I fell asleep
and woke up with him telling me,
1297
01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:44,120
"Are we having a party tonight?"
1298
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,000
I was so shocked at him coming in
1299
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:51,400
that I made out I had had an
allergic reaction to nuts.
1300
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,040
He's basically telling me to relax
1301
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,120
and, "It's important for you
to make love and relax."
1302
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,680
I said, "I just want to go
to sleep on my own.
1303
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,400
"Mr Fayed, I don't want to.
Mr Fayed."
1304
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,240
And he kept saying,
"Relax, please relax."
1305
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,400
How can you relax
when you're in that situation?
1306
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,240
He walked out and he was angry.
1307
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,440
These were taken just before
the final incident.
1308
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,320
There was one particular trip
to Paris
1309
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,080
that was just
the final straw for me.
1310
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,040
Arriving in Paris,
we'd be escorted by police.
1311
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,280
There'd normally be six or seven
police cars and motorbikes
1312
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,120
following us with full siren
all the way through Paris
1313
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:43,480
until we arrived at Villa Windsor,
where we were to spend the evening.
1314
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:45,960
I took myself off to bed.
1315
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,520
I woke up startled
and he was just there,
1316
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,840
wearing nothing but a silk...
1317
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,640
..like, dressing gown-type,
smoking jacket thing.
1318
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,880
And he tried
to get in the bed with me
1319
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,880
and I told him,
"No, I don't want you to."
1320
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,840
And he proceeded to just keep trying
to get in the bed,
1321
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,560
at which point he was kind of
on top of me
1322
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,160
and I really couldn't move anywhere.
1323
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:15,240
I was kind of face down on the bed
and he just pressed himself on me.
1324
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:27,160
At that point, I just cried
and he got up
1325
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,800
and quite aggressively said to me,
"Go in there and wash yourself,"
1326
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,800
and pointed to the bathroom.
1327
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,440
He told me there was a bottle
of Dettol in there
1328
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:39,120
and I just stood in the bath and
washed myself as I was told to.
1329
01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:46,320
Obviously he wanted me to erase
any trace
1330
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,880
of him being anywhere near me
at that point.
1331
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,440
Is he a rapist?
1332
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:54,800
He's... Yeah, he's a rapist.
1333
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,680
In your head, is he a criminal?
1334
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,600
Yeah, he's a criminal.
1335
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,320
My case was definitely the closest
to going to the courtroom.
1336
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,080
Definitely.
1337
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,800
But that was... It didn't.
1338
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,680
I handed my phone
to the police for evidence.
1339
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,680
The evidence on there would
have been the phone log
1340
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,440
of the calls that I received.
1341
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:18,240
Once I received my phone back,
it wouldn't turn on.
1342
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,640
It doesn't - it didn't work.
It was dead.
1343
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,160
Nothing. Nothing would work.
Nothing would work on it.
1344
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:29,320
The charges got dropped,
from not enough evidence.
1345
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,880
I managed to get my dates mixed up.
1346
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,880
I said it happened on the Saturday
1347
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,320
when it happened on the Friday,
the incident.
1348
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,360
And then it just came down to just
that one day
1349
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,400
with, you know, I was like,
"How could I get the day wrong?
1350
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,920
"How could I get the day wrong?"
1351
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,520
But it was not my fault.
1352
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,080
I do not feel that it was a strong
enough reason
1353
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,560
for that case to be dropped,
I really don't.
1354
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,000
I got back to the safety
of my house,
1355
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,560
and I decided I wasn't going back,
1356
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,440
and I decided to engage
with a lawyer.
1357
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:06,040
When my lawyer contacted Harrods,
he sent them transcripts
1358
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,720
from the tapes that I had recorded
1359
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,160
and told them that I was leaving
on the grounds of sexual harassment.
1360
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,080
My lawyer, he advised that obviously
it was really sensitive,
1361
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,120
given who he was.
1362
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,960
They said, look, we just need to do
this quickly and quietly.
1363
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:35,320
The agreement for me leaving was
I had to shred all of the evidence,
1364
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,640
and in return I would be given
a sum of money
1365
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,800
and would be left alone.
1366
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,760
The lawyers organised
for a shredding truck
1367
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,920
to come to my lawyer's office,
where we placed everything in.
1368
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,720
It was shredded in front of us,
including tapes I had of him,
1369
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,040
my phone that had messages
and voicemails.
1370
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,320
Really quite nasty voicemails
on them.
1371
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,640
Someone from HR was present
for the shredding
1372
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,720
of all of the evidence I had.
1373
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,240
Harrods, I think they knew
the significance
1374
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,960
of having this kind
of information available.
1375
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,800
I think they just wanted to get rid
of it as quick as possible
1376
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,640
and get rid of me
as quick as possible.
1377
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,920
I thought I'd lost the transcripts,
1378
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:19,320
but actually what I did have was the
transcriptions sent to my lawyer
1379
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,520
in my sent items
of my email account at the time.
1380
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,320
I was advised it would be in my best
interest not to talk,
1381
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,360
that I was to keep it quiet.
1382
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,960
All these years, not being able
to talk about something
1383
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,040
that's so unfair.
Like, it's so unfair
1384
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,600
to make somebody go through
something like that
1385
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,840
and then expect them
not to talk about it.
1386
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,320
It's cruel.
1387
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,120
There's often the case
in any settlement
1388
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,440
that nondisclosure agreements
form part
1389
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:57,000
to keep the settlement confidential.
1390
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,920
And there's no specific issue
with that.
1391
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,400
My position on this, however,
1392
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,120
is some of these people
1393
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,800
were being subjected to criminal
offences, and therefore,
1394
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,960
in those circumstances, I certainly
would question the role
1395
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,000
of a nondisclosure agreement. Yeah.
1396
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,920
We say there has been clearly
attempts by the senior people
1397
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,480
at Harrods to sweep
this under the carpet.
1398
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:22,760
And here is someone who has all the
resources in the world...
1399
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,600
And all the power. ..and a number of
people in whose interests it is
1400
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,040
to actually say, of course,
nothing to see here.
1401
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,120
Mohamed Al Fayed was always the one
that got away.
1402
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,040
I've tried to correct the record
1403
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,280
and expose this horrific
sex offender.
1404
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,640
This is all...
1405
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,000
This is quite old school.
1406
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,160
These are all internal drives...
1407
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,640
{\an8}..I haven't looked at for years,
some of these,
1408
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,680
but it's basically
the footage of films
1409
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,680
that I've made over, like, 20 years,
1410
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,600
all locked away on these drives.
1411
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,600
So "Star" is Starsuckers.
1412
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,040
It's one of the most shocking,
revelatory,
1413
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,480
powerful things I've ever filmed.
1414
01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:07,320
The aim of Starsuckers was to pull
back the curtain
1415
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,080
of the media machine
1416
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:13,760
and sort of expose a lot
of the deceit and wrongdoing
1417
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,800
that was, at the time,
quite prevalent
1418
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,040
in the British
and international media.
1419
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,560
It was a bit of a kind of
Wild West culture, really -
1420
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,960
and in the middle of that culture
was Max Clifford,
1421
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,720
sort of, you know, pulling
the strings in all directions
1422
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,520
and sort of being this sort of
all-powerful figure
1423
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,320
who could either put false stories
into the media to promote a client,
1424
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:37,240
or stop negative stories coming out
about people he represented.
1425
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:38,800
We couldn't just go to him and say,
1426
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,840
"Hey, Max, why don't you just tell
us how you censor the press?"
1427
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,840
And the way we came up with was
through undercover filming.
1428
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,200
MAX CLIFFORD: All right, no,
it's like...it's like Mohamed.
1429
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,160
Yeah, yeah.
1430
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,560
It's gone on for 15 years.
1431
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,120
And would keep going on,
and continue to go on.
1432
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,360
So, there was no question
that what we had was dynamite.
1433
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,320
Um, the problem started to come
1434
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,560
was when we were getting the film
legally checked,
1435
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,040
and the problem came from the fact
1436
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,840
that Mohamed Al Fayed
was notoriously litigious.
1437
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,160
We had an excellent law firm,
1438
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,960
but they said to us, if you put
this material in your film
1439
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,360
as it stands, you will be sued.
1440
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,440
What we had to do was to
beep out Fayed's name.
1441
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,120
BRACKETED WORDS BEEPED
1442
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:12,920
Yeah, yeah.
1443
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,680
Fayed was the one that we missed.
Fayed was the one that we let go.
1444
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,040
It makes me feel absolutely sick
that he was doing this,
1445
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,160
and he was able to get away
with it for so long,
1446
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,520
and we weren't able to stop him.
1447
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,720
Those women were let down.
1448
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,600
Everybody's known of this behaviour,
1449
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:33,560
and I think no-one's really been
able to do anything fully about it.
1450
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:38,440
I have spoken up about my time
there on numerous occasions.
1451
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:42,520
Every time the press tried to do
something, it was shut down.
1452
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,200
I was approached...I think
it was a Dispatches programme, then.
1453
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,160
We'd done the filming,
and that was shut down.
1454
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,080
And I just remember being
a little angry,
1455
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,880
but also thinking,
here we go again.
1456
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,760
You know, it's been shut down
in the magazines,
1457
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:09,320
it's been shut down in the papers,
and now it's shut down on screen.
1458
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:13,240
NEWS ARCHIVE: The store, famed for
its sales, was sold today.
1459
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,680
The handshake
was more of a handover.
1460
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,520
After a quarter of a century
in charge of Harrods,
1461
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,840
Mohamed Al Fayed was cashing in.
1462
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,400
It was after the #MeToo movement.
1463
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,840
Public opinion towards
this sort of behaviour
1464
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,600
and towards these sort of people was
changing, and it was changing fast,
1465
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:44,400
and I really felt that it was
the moment to speak up.
1466
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,960
And I waived my anonymity
for the programme,
1467
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,080
which I did not do lightly.
1468
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,440
VOICEOVER: Mohamed Al Fayed,
super rich and powerful.
1469
01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:57,640
The famous former owner of Harrods
1470
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,120
faces serious allegations.
1471
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,480
He said, "If you don't sleep
with me,
1472
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:04,800
"I can't help you
with your acting career."
1473
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,520
It was a very key moment.
1474
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:11,680
It gave other women the courage
to come forward and tell their story
1475
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,600
and to reach some kind of closure.
1476
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:19,040
However, for me it felt like it
slightly sank without a trace.
1477
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:32,720
It was 2018 when I started to feel
strong enough to do something.
1478
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,000
I couldn't ever get my career back.
1479
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,640
That was stolen from me
and he took that from me.
1480
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,560
We went to the police station.
1481
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,040
I was filmed making
my video statement,
1482
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,280
and then this all went forward
1483
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:47,840
with the police
1484
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,200
to try and take this
to court or whatever.
1485
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:53,120
But Mohamed was too old
to be prosecuted
1486
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:57,400
and they said he wasn't in the right
state of mind, or, you know -
1487
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,160
so, they decided it wasn't worth
pursuing, and it was dropped.
1488
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:07,480
We engaged a lawyer and they
approached Harrods' lawyers.
1489
01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:10,080
It just took so long.
1490
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,120
It was only just before he died
that they suddenly sent a letter
1491
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,480
saying they were willing to sort of,
you know, compensate me.
1492
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,760
We're hoping this would happen
before Mohamed died,
1493
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,880
so that he would realise he hasn't
got away with this,
1494
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,800
so that he would know everything
he's done is wrong.
1495
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,400
NEWS MONTAGE: Just as we came on air
tonight, it's been confirmed
1496
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,000
that the self-made Egyptian
billionaire...
1497
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,520
..Mohamed Al Fayed
has died at the age of 94.
1498
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,520
He will be remembered as the man
who owned Harrods.
1499
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,920
His deep obsession with
British aristocratic society
1500
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,280
was later fictionalised in
the Netflix series The Crown.
1501
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,440
Does everyone in your family
say things twice twice?
1502
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:04,800
No, no.
1503
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,920
I bet they do do, Mou Mou.
1504
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,440
I was angry that he hadn't
been publicly shamed
1505
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:12,120
for what he had done,
1506
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,840
for the amount of women he had,
you know, destroyed.
1507
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,320
Just then I thought,
"Oh, he's got away with it.
1508
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,760
"There we go." I knew it was going
to happen anyway.
1509
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,840
He was a tremendous life force.
1510
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,320
He was obviously controversial,
1511
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,840
but I feel that
he did more good in this world
1512
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,520
than all his critics combined.
1513
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,080
The people who worked for him, and
the people who were his customers
1514
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,200
and the fans of his football club,
1515
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,080
they know the real Mohamed
and they cherished his friendship
1516
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,040
and they cherish what he did.
1517
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,520
It's not fair that he got to die
with the legacy he did.
1518
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,400
I know there are many other
victims of Mohamed Al Fayed.
1519
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:59,120
It's just horrific to think
that he got away with that.
1520
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,680
I think the fact that Al Fayed
got away with as much as he did
1521
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,560
was because a lot of people
1522
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,760
engineered these situations
on his behalf.
1523
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,680
Fayed would have stood a few paces
back in these situations,
1524
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,880
and everyone else would be out
there doing his dirty work for him.
1525
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:27,560
The senior PA, I assume,
is the person that set up
1526
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,480
and instructed the doctor
to do my medical.
1527
01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:35,760
I think the doctor who did my
medical should be held accountable
1528
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,120
for providing information
to Mohamed,
1529
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,960
which he used to take
advantage of us.
1530
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,080
There was always a group of people
that knew where Al Fayed was,
1531
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,960
what his movements were.
1532
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,560
They can't say,
"Oh, I never saw anything."
1533
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,240
May not have seen the act.
1534
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,760
There was certainly
a pattern to it all.
1535
01:25:55,240 --> 01:26:00,040
So I started thinking,
how many people were in on this?
1536
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,080
Harrods, I think they knew
the significance
1537
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,920
of having this kind of
information available.
1538
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:09,600
A person like that has a lot
of people who are drawn to money
1539
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,440
and power, and do what is required
of them by that man.
1540
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:22,800
It was, in hindsight, such a massive
ring of corruption and sexual abuse.
1541
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:29,160
Many of those people have been named
by these survivors in their accounts
1542
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,880
and statements, and it will only
be a matter of time
1543
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,280
before they all need
to be approached.
1544
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,520
Expect that knock on the door
at some point.
1545
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:52,480
I want to deter any other
Mohamed Al Fayeds in the making,
1546
01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:56,240
to stop them doing anything
like this ever again.
1547
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,400
It's important, this film, because
it's a loud voice screaming
1548
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,400
at everyone to say this is not
acceptable any longer.
1549
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,600
I've spent so many years being quiet
and silent and not speaking up.
1550
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,960
I hope talking about it now helps.
1551
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,840
That we can all start feeling
better and healing from it.
1552
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,000
I think he damaged me in some way.
1553
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,880
But I'm moving on from that now.
1554
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,280
I want to put it all behind me now
and forget about it.
1555
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,640
Move on and be strong.
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