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Take the ball. Pass the ball.
Take the ball. Pass the ball.
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Take the ball. Pass the ball.
Take the ball. Pass the ball.
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And I don't care where you're from.
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I don't care.
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If you tell me that you love football,
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and you don't love Barcelona,
you have a problem.
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If there's a game on TV,
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any team in the world,
if Barcelona are playing,
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I'd pick watching Barcelona all day long.
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I'd say 2011 was the best
brand of football I've seen.
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Barça re-established themselves
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as the most admired team in Europe.
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Not because we won ...
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but because of the style in which we won.
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There have been three special
eras in football history.
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First, Cruyff's Ajax,
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Sacchi's AC Milan,
a project that I continued.
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And then came Guardiola,
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and he created something beautiful.
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To play against Barcelona at that time,
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you just knew you had a bigger
chance to lose than to win.
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That Barcelona was just, you know,
eating everything on the table.
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It's one of the best ever performances
in a Champions League final,
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and to do it against
Manchester United was incredible.
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We really enjoyed ourselves that day.
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I mean, they were special.
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They were as good as I've came up against ...
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by quite some margin.
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And they were just too good.
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I remember Sir Alex saying
that he'd never lost like that before,
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where he felt ...
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that he couldn't do anything.
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No one's given us a hiding like that,
so it's a great moment for them.
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They deserve it because
they play the right way.
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They stuck at it, they kept
passing, they kept passing.
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They might have lost one or two,
but they kept passing it.
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And all of a sudden,
they make that extra pass,
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and the spaces are bigger,
it's harder to close down,
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and you lose your little bit of shape,
and that's when they take control.
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As a performance, it was ...
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It was as good as I've seen.
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What struck me about them really
was the patience of the wide men,
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to stay so high and so wide
and keep making them runs,
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and probably hardly ever getting the ball.
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They both got the goal,
but just the patience ...
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to stay in that position and hold us,
pin our fullbacks back, pin them back.
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And then obviously
you've got Messi to drop back,
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making it four v three.
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Outnumbering the opponent was
the basis of our whole strategy.
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Messi dropped into midfield to give
us that numerical advantage.
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And he also scored goals,
which gave us an advantage
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over every team we played.
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I'll show you how we did it.
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Here's the Manchester United defense.
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They never closed down
the player in the hole.
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They had two defensive midfielders,
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a number ten, Rooney,
who didn't defend very much,
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and a striker.
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For this goal, we were three against two.
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Iniesta plays the ball
across the line to Messi,
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and Messi attacks the defense.
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We started really well
but then they equalized,
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and that gave us a scare,
which is normal in a final.
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But we managed to take control
and when we went 3-1 up,
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we felt much more relaxed.
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Pep gave us a team talk
in the Wembley dressing room.
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I remember the room was
very dark, and he said,
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"I told you that if you got me
this far, I'd win you the final,
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"and I'm going to make sure you win it."
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If Pep said to jump off the third
tier of Camp Nou, I'd jump.
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There must be a good reason for it.
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And that's what I loved about him.
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He'd say things, and we'd realize ...
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that his words were never just words,
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and that convinces you that what you're doing ...
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is going to get results.
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It's unreal the way he used to tell us something,
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"That's what we're going to do.
Do it. It will work."
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And it will happen.
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It really will happen, just like that.
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That day was the crowning moment ...
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of everything we'd achieved since 2008.
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It was the crowning moment of our reign,
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the reign of a team adored by its supporters,
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and also by everyone who loves football.
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For Barça to win the Champions League ...
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in that style at Wembley,
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was the perfect end to a
brutally draining season.
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The rivalry between them and
Madrid had never been nastier.
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And the relationship between Mourinho
and Guardiola was beyond tense.
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Getting out of hand, some would say.
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I think it escalated into
something more than just football.
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I mean, I don't know whether there's
any rivalry between them personally,
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but it looked that way.
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Let's not forget where this comes from.
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In 2010, Barcelona are on their way
to the Champions League final.
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The Champions League final
is at Real Madrid's stadium.
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I think we've all forgotten
how much of a trauma this was in Madrid.
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They're terrified of this prospect.
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What happens ?
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Mourinho happens.
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Mourinho beats Barcelona
and celebrates it like mad.
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And he's just passed his
audition for Real Madrid.
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It was difficult for Mourinho at Madrid ...
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because he probably arrives
when Barcelona are at their best.
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And I doubt that any other manager ...
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would have found a solution
for Madrid at the time.
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I think that he arrived to Madrid,
to a really big club,
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but he got frustrated after the 5-0,
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because we beat them 5-0
at Camp Nou in his first year.
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In the 5-0, they didn't have a hope.
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That was the best game ...
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I played in at Barça.
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I think that he just had
a reflection and said,
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"Listen, if we want to beat this team,
we cannot beat them playing football.
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We have to beat them in
trying to find another way."
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And they bring football outside of the pitch,
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like in every press conference,
in every interview,
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trying to fight in every game.
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I have absolutely no doubt
that Mourinho's role at Real Madrid
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was to "knock Barcelona
off their fucking perch",
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to use Ferguson's words.
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Mourinho's not stupid.
Mourinho's a great competitor.
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And you have to respect winners.
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But when winners start
losing and feel powerless,
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you better watch out ...
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because it's bound to kick off.
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Playing four Clásicos
in such a short period ...
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brought the tension to boiling point.
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It was tough because most
of us were Spain teammates,
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and the tensions spilled out onto the pitch.
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I found it all very tough indeed.
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We all lost our heads a bit.
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The games should have been
much more attractive,
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much better to watch,
and without so much aggression,
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but when you're competing
you get swept up in it,
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and the tension caused
constant fighting on the pitch.
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The day I remember that
they won the Cup in extra time,
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and Cristiano scored.
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We were a much better team
than them, but they won,
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and for us, it was like, "Whoa !"
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They had that moment where
they made us doubt ourselves
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because it was a really difficult moment.
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We thought we were the better
team and created more,
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but because of a marginal offside call,
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we ended up losing the cup final.
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And when you lose,
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not only do you feel angry,
but also doubts start to creep in.
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What we got on the pitch ...
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was a game where it really
could have gone either way.
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There's a goal from Pedro
ruled offside correctly,
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but, as Guardiola pointed out,
very fine the margin,
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which gave Mourinho the chance to say
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Guardiola was complaining about right decisions.
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He wasn't. He was pointing out
the margins were so fine ...
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that it could have gone the other way.
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After what Pep said the other day,
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we've entered into a new era.
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There's now a new group of managers
with just one member, him,
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a group that criticizes a referee
for getting decisions right.
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It's something nobody's ever
seen or heard of before.
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Mourinho was so provocative ...
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that even people at Barça
wanted a reaction from Guardiola ...
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because Mourinho was constantly
trying to pick a fight with Guardiola ...
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and Barça in general.
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That day at lunch we listened ...
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to the Real Madrid manager,
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and I noticed something change in Pep.
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I had a feeling that Pep
would do something uncharacteristic,
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and I think others felt it too,
because after training ...
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the director of football
came to the dressing room,
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which never happens.
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And I remember Zubizarreta said,
"Keep calm, Pep."
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And Pep told him he'd stay
calm and wouldn't react.
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But Pep was lying.
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I was in the press conference that day,
and we're sitting in the press room,
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and there's this moment
where everyone just goes,
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"Did he really say that ?
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Bloody hell !"
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Yes ? Yes.
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Pep Guardiola, good evening everyone.
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Mr. Mourinho addressed me by
first name, so I'll do the same.
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He called me Pep, so I'll call him José.
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I don't know which camera
belongs to Mr. José,
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probably all of them.
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Tomorrow at 20.45,
our teams go head-to-head on the pitch,
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but off the pitch, he's already won.
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He's won all year long
and he probably always will.
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I award him a Champions League
trophy for victories in the press room.
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In this room, he's the fucking boss,
the fucking chief.
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He knows it all and I don't even
want to try and compete with him.
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I only want to remind him we
worked together for four years.
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We were in the team hotel
watching that press conference.
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He gave us one more incentive
to go out and give 100%.
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When Guardiola returned,
we all started applauding him,
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and he just said, "That's enough.
Time to focus on the match."
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It really surprised us ...
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because nothing like that
had ever happened, but ...
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a line had been crossed.
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It was precisely the boost
we needed at that moment.
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Clásicos are already extremely tense,
but this one was worse.
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Doubts and fears were creeping into my mind.
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I'd known for over a month
that I needed surgery ...
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but we hadn't told anyone.
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It's impossible to keep
secrets in a dressing room.
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Everything always gets leaked.
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So I only told a couple
of my teammates the truth.
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When you go to a match feeling confident,
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everything is much easier,
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but I had a voice in my head
telling me to be careful,
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and that my knee could collapse at any moment.
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I had a big bit of cartilage
floating about inside.
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I could have easily collapsed
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when one of their players was running at me.
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I was very nervous.
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This was the moment we'd
either go down in history
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or be remembered as a good side
but not one of the greats.
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That's what was at stake
in the semi-finals against Madrid.
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Even though you know
that you are a better team,
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you always have that doubt,
and I remember Pep said to us,
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"We are a much better team.
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I will bring you to the final
of the Champions League."
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And it was like this.
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They were very well-organized,
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so it wasn't easy to create goal-scoring chances.
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And then Leo picked up the ball in midfield,
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and started that slalom run.
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It's just natural ability.
That's why he's the best in the world.
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Only Messi can do that.
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That goal is just incredible.
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Busi gives him the ball
and he skips past three or four,
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and then he scores with his right foot.
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It's one of the best
goals in football history.
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My assist practically put
the goal on a plate for him.
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No. The truth is ...
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we all know that the more
Leo is on the ball ...
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the better it is for all of us.
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You have a Madrid team
that's extremely defensive,
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with Pepe in the middle of midfield.
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A Madrid team that is very aggressive,
that is playing for nil-nil.
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Mourinho's argument has always been ...
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that until Pepe is sent off,
Madrid were succeeding in that.
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We will never know if Messi
would have scored his two goals ...
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without that sending off.
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At that moment, the red card
made absolutely no difference.
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Messi's unstoppable.
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It's natural talent that's only
given to the chosen ones.
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Maybe in 20 or 30 years,
there'll be another one,
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but right now it's Messi.
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I was in the room exactly a year
later when Pierluigi Collina,
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in his refereeing tutorial to the Spain squad,
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uses that Pepe incident
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to show them how the laws of the game
would be interpreted during Euro 2012.
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And the instant it comes up on the screen,
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the Spain squad is split
right down the middle again ...
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with Madrid players and Barça players
drowning him out, shouting at each other ...
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about whether it is or
isn't a red card offence.
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I told Collina, "Show something else !
That's not a good example to show us !"
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Yeah. Some of them still
said it wasn't a red card.
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And that Pepe didn't touch him.
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Incredible !
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I'm telling you it was a red card.
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They can say what they want.
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Fans want to see their team play well.
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They don't want a team that constantly fouls ...
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or defending with everyone behind the ball.
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But in the end, football always wins.
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After the second leg at the Camp Nou,
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we stayed on the pitch
celebrating for ten or 15 minutes,
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and we still had to play
the Champions League final.
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But with all due respect
to Manchester United,
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our biggest test that year
was beating Madrid in the semi-final.
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So they've beaten Real Madrid
in the semi-finals.
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They then dismantle Manchester United
in the Champions League final.
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And the instant outpouring of superlatives
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from all-time greats of the game
all around the world,
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I think, objectively marks this
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as the high point of
European club football. Ever.
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But the fact that Éric Abidal plays and wins,
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having already just beaten cancer
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turns this from a great sporting
story into a great human drama.
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That day wasn't about lifting
the Champions League trophy,
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we should have been lifting Abi.
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That was the real triumph.
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He was one of the great
characters in the dressing room ...
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and everybody loved him.
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Abidal !
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I remember two or three days
after we heard about the cancer,
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Abi came to see us.
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And he was the one who cheered us up.
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One of my teammates died
when I was at Sevilla,
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and I thought,
"I can't let this happen again.
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Not another one, please."
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The first time I wasn't able to help,
but this time, I could.
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And if there was a chance to save his life,
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my career was the last thing on my mind.
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Dani came to see me and said,
"Look Abi, we have the same blood type.
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I'm going to give you part of my liver."
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Everyone saw Dani in a
different light after that.
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It was a private matter,
which only came out ...
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because Abi told people.
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But I'd never have forgiven
myself if he'd died ...
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and I'd done nothing to help.
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I couldn't let that happen.
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In the end, they found another solution,
but I don't regret making the offer.
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Days after his operation,
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he was back in the dressing room
and working out in the gym.
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He wanted to be back with
the group as soon as possible.
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We had no doubt he'd make a full recovery.
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Did you think you had a good
chance of playing at Wembley ?
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No. I didn't even think
I had a ten percent chance.
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We needed to play the
strongest side possible,
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and the strongest team
had to include Puyol.
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I wanted to play.
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I always wanted to play,
but I was in a worse state than Abidal.
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And the most important thing was winning.
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The boss did something
he'd never done before,
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He announced the starting line-up
in the dressing room at Wembley ...
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just an hour before the game
in the Champions League Final.
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I was shitting myself,
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00:24:40,350 --> 00:24:42,750
thinking, "Bloody hell ! What's going on ?"
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I wasn't fully match fit,
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but there was a fire inside me,
which gave me that extra drive.
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And when you're on the pitch,
you're just thinking, "Let's do this."
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The Abidal situation was a
huge emotional boost for all of us.
326
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:10,690
And he found strength
he didn't know he had ...
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to play the way he did,
with the same composure as always.
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00:25:13,868 --> 00:25:15,548
Abidal was an example to everyone.
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He showed such strength and determination ...
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and a will to overcome the cancer.
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And I decided that if we won that night,
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Abidal should be the first to lift the cup.
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It really is an incredible moment.
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I've been lucky enough to lift it twice,
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and it's a difficult feeling to describe.
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It was Puyi's decision.
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He'd had the disappointment
of not starting the game,
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00:25:43,789 --> 00:25:48,109
and he maybe didn't feel
like a key member of the team,
339
00:25:48,228 --> 00:25:53,148
but despite that,
he decided Abidal should lift the cup.
340
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He said to me, "It's got to be Abidal."
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And I said, "Bloody hell, you're right.
Abi should lift it."
342
00:26:02,667 --> 00:26:04,827
Without any doubt, that moment was ...
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00:26:05,828 --> 00:26:07,948
the absolute highlight for us all.
344
00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:10,869
To watch Abidal lift the trophy
was very special.
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00:26:16,468 --> 00:26:18,680
I was with Víctor Valdés,
close to Abidal.
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00:26:18,189 --> 00:26:22,149
Watching Abidal lift the trophy
after the illness he'd been through,
347
00:26:22,268 --> 00:26:23,948
it still gives me goosebumps.
348
00:26:43,226 --> 00:26:44,786
I think it was the moment ...
349
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that showed the strength of our group.
350
00:26:54,587 --> 00:26:56,867
We were much more than just teammates.
351
00:26:56,987 --> 00:27:00,627
They say that Barça is more than a club.
352
00:27:00,746 --> 00:27:03,386
At that moment, it was more than a club.
353
00:27:13,706 --> 00:27:16,106
I think that the story of this club,
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00:27:16,226 --> 00:27:21,260
obviously, you cannot understand
if you don't know the figure of Cruyff.
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00:27:21,146 --> 00:27:24,946
Firstly as a player, he was one
of the best players in history.
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00:27:25,670 --> 00:27:26,347
I didn't watch him play,
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00:27:26,466 --> 00:27:29,826
but my dad always said
incredible things about him.
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00:27:29,946 --> 00:27:32,106
He always says, "Messi and then Cruyff."
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00:27:33,346 --> 00:27:35,146
When we were kids of ten or 11,
Cruyff signed for Barça
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00:27:35,227 --> 00:27:40,147
and we copied his hairstyle,
the way he ran and played football.
361
00:27:40,266 --> 00:27:42,586
He inspired a revolution in 1973/74.
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00:28:06,665 --> 00:28:11,745
He comes here with the advantage
of having a good reputation as a player.
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00:28:11,865 --> 00:28:15,825
He has a philosophy which is contrary to many.
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00:28:15,945 --> 00:28:17,705
He would prefer to fail with his ideas ...
365
00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:20,306
than to succeed with the ideas of someone else.
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00:28:20,426 --> 00:28:23,746
Players go for these kind of things,
for this kind of charisma.
367
00:28:26,265 --> 00:28:31,185
I played with him here for five years
and when we took over the team,
368
00:28:31,304 --> 00:28:35,664
we wanted to play a
different brand of football.
369
00:28:35,785 --> 00:28:40,905
And it caused shock waves around the world.
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00:28:41,250 --> 00:28:43,825
Everyone played with a 4-4-2 formation,
371
00:28:43,945 --> 00:28:49,825
and we played with three defenders,
four midfielders and three in attack.
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00:28:51,384 --> 00:28:53,304
People would say,
"They've only got three defenders !"
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00:28:53,425 --> 00:28:55,185
It was a 3-4-3.
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00:28:55,304 --> 00:28:58,384
They'd say, "It's madness.
We'll concede loads of goals !"
375
00:28:58,504 --> 00:29:01,344
But Johan preferred winning 6-5 to winning 1-0.
376
00:29:01,464 --> 00:29:05,384
I was really lucky because
I was six, seven, eight years old.
377
00:29:05,504 --> 00:29:08,664
I watched the first Copa de Europa,
European Championships.
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00:29:08,784 --> 00:29:10,640
We were a really good team,
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00:29:10,183 --> 00:29:13,783
always playing really well,
but we'd never won nothing important.
380
00:29:13,905 --> 00:29:16,665
But when he arrived,
he changed this mentality,
381
00:29:16,784 --> 00:29:19,704
and we started to win important
things and important titles.
382
00:29:46,302 --> 00:29:50,342
Cruyff is the most influential person
in the entire history of FC Barcelona.
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00:29:50,743 --> 00:29:54,503
Our style of play is
the most important thing.
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00:29:54,623 --> 00:29:56,223
Then come the players.
385
00:29:56,342 --> 00:29:59,582
But what really draws you in
and what sets the club apart ...
386
00:29:59,704 --> 00:30:02,624
is that Barça play a
unique brand of football.
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00:30:04,262 --> 00:30:06,822
It all started a very long time
ago during Cruyff's spell at the club.
388
00:30:06,944 --> 00:30:11,744
Since then we've always
played the same way,
389
00:30:11,861 --> 00:30:16,501
holding onto possession,
390
00:30:17,463 --> 00:30:21,303
and passing in triangles,
391
00:30:21,422 --> 00:30:23,662
pressing the moment we lose the ball,
392
00:30:23,782 --> 00:30:29,620
staying close together so we can
recover possession and then keep it.
393
00:30:30,542 --> 00:30:31,582
Over time you realize,
394
00:30:31,701 --> 00:30:34,981
that it's because of Cruyff's influence
that by the age of 21,
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00:30:35,103 --> 00:30:38,743
it felt normal to come off my line
and play further up the pitch,
396
00:30:38,861 --> 00:30:40,861
outside the penalty area.
397
00:30:40,982 --> 00:30:46,462
You come to realize that
all of us, me, Xavi, Iniesta ...
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00:30:46,582 --> 00:30:51,342
We've all grown up adopting
Johan's philosophy.
399
00:30:51,462 --> 00:30:55,182
You know, it's an immense honor, or pride,
400
00:30:55,303 --> 00:30:56,943
to see that this is still going this way
401
00:30:57,610 --> 00:30:59,501
and my father is mentioned
like the architect.
402
00:31:05,342 --> 00:31:11,220
I think it's a process that began
in the 1970s with Laureano Ruiz.
403
00:31:11,142 --> 00:31:13,582
I experienced that here as a player.
404
00:31:14,181 --> 00:31:16,781
I was then a coach here when the
second big change took place ...
405
00:31:16,901 --> 00:31:18,781
when Johan Cruyff arrived as manager.
406
00:31:18,901 --> 00:31:20,301
He changed our mentality.
407
00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:26,200
He turned us into winners
and taught us to be confident,
408
00:31:26,141 --> 00:31:29,821
to want the ball and be creative,
and to enjoy ourselves.
409
00:31:29,941 --> 00:31:32,621
And our third big change was with Pep,
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00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:34,660
who took it to another level.
411
00:31:37,210 --> 00:31:40,610
Cruyff's arrival was key
because he imposed his ideas.
412
00:31:40,181 --> 00:31:45,941
His advantage was that the players ...
413
00:31:46,610 --> 00:31:49,610
already understood this style
because they'd worked under me.
414
00:31:49,181 --> 00:31:53,461
I invented the Rondo.
415
00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:56,179
The ideal Rondo is four against two.
416
00:31:56,781 --> 00:32:00,701
You need to move constantly to find space.
417
00:32:00,819 --> 00:32:02,779
The player with the ball ...
418
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,540
must have the option
of a pass to his right,
419
00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:09,140
another to this left,
and another through the middle,
420
00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:11,300
which I call the pass down the street.
421
00:32:11,421 --> 00:32:13,610
So in a match that becomes ...
422
00:32:13,179 --> 00:32:18,179
a sideways pass to feet or a through ball.
423
00:32:18,699 --> 00:32:21,699
So it's a very important tactical exercise.
424
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:25,340
Barcelona always train in tight spaces.
425
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:30,600
If the ball doesn't stay by your foot,
it's gone, in training.
426
00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:33,460
That's why, after, when you drop
those guys on the big field,
427
00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:36,219
they play as if they were in tight places.
428
00:32:37,619 --> 00:32:41,339
If you pass, the player marking
you doesn't have time to catch you.
429
00:32:41,940 --> 00:32:44,940
When he gets to you, it's always too late.
430
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:50,190
That's how you take control.
431
00:32:56,938 --> 00:32:59,180
The ball is fired at
you from every direction.
432
00:32:59,578 --> 00:33:03,658
And the light shows you
where to pass the ball.
433
00:33:03,778 --> 00:33:08,980
So if the light comes on over there,
I have to be in the right position.
434
00:33:08,219 --> 00:33:11,899
Left foot control, right foot pass.
As few touches as possible.
435
00:33:12,170 --> 00:33:13,337
It's the role of a midfielder.
436
00:33:25,619 --> 00:33:27,899
You're being marked and pressed.
437
00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:30,219
You have to get your head up
and find the solution.
438
00:33:30,738 --> 00:33:33,980
I learned all of that
from the age of 11 or 12 ...
439
00:33:33,538 --> 00:33:39,778
because I had fantastic coaches at Barça
like Joan Vilà and Albert Benaiges.
440
00:33:40,898 --> 00:33:42,858
My son plays for the youth team,
441
00:33:42,979 --> 00:33:45,979
and you get to realize as a parent,
as well,
442
00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:47,659
what the club teaches.
443
00:33:47,777 --> 00:33:51,857
It's not only about how they play
and how successful that you can be.
444
00:33:51,977 --> 00:33:55,337
It's how you conduct yourself,
how to be a Barça player,
445
00:33:55,457 --> 00:33:59,977
how to live like a Barça player,
how to respect what it means.
446
00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:05,457
Having well brought up, polite kids,
with good values ...
447
00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:07,537
makes everything much easier.
448
00:34:07,656 --> 00:34:11,560
Just look at the squad
we've got at the moment.
449
00:34:11,178 --> 00:34:12,978
They're all exceptional people.
450
00:34:14,817 --> 00:34:19,737
We were lucky to have a generation
of players who came from La Masia,
451
00:34:19,857 --> 00:34:25,857
like Xavi, Iniesta, Piqué, Puyol,
Valdés, Pedro, Leo, Busquets.
452
00:34:25,976 --> 00:34:28,576
They all achieved huge
success in the first team.
453
00:34:29,737 --> 00:34:35,217
Tell me a team, apart maybe from Ajax,
that dominated world football ...
454
00:34:35,336 --> 00:34:40,296
having that amount of youngsters
from the academy in their team.
455
00:34:40,417 --> 00:34:43,457
There's a reason why youth
players at Barcelona ...
456
00:34:43,575 --> 00:34:46,655
are the ones who best adjust
to the first team at Barcelona.
457
00:34:46,777 --> 00:34:48,970
It's not a coincidence.
458
00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:51,560
It's not because they work
with special machines ...
459
00:34:51,176 --> 00:34:52,576
that no other club has.
460
00:34:52,696 --> 00:34:55,960
It has to do with the way
they're brought up,
461
00:34:55,216 --> 00:34:57,560
the values, their football values.
462
00:34:57,177 --> 00:35:00,737
What is the real essence of our football ?
463
00:35:00,856 --> 00:35:02,776
Is it the result or is it how we play ?
464
00:35:02,896 --> 00:35:04,560
It's how we play.
465
00:35:04,175 --> 00:35:07,135
And then, if you do that good,
the results will come.
466
00:35:07,257 --> 00:35:08,857
We came here to play football.
467
00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:14,960
People realized that we were
different and that we had talent.
468
00:35:14,215 --> 00:35:17,615
We were given the chance
to develop from junior level ...
469
00:35:17,737 --> 00:35:19,377
through to the first team.
470
00:35:19,496 --> 00:35:22,456
It's a different way
of understanding football,
471
00:35:22,576 --> 00:35:27,256
which gives you a better chance of success.
472
00:35:28,295 --> 00:35:30,335
When I joined Barcelona,
473
00:35:30,456 --> 00:35:31,536
the media asked me ...
474
00:35:31,655 --> 00:35:34,295
which player had surprised me most,
475
00:35:34,415 --> 00:35:36,935
and I said, Andrés Iniesta,
476
00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:39,175
which surprised them ...
477
00:35:39,654 --> 00:35:44,494
because they all wanted me
to say Messi or Ronaldinho.
478
00:35:44,615 --> 00:35:50,695
But the player who makes
difficult things look easy is Andrés.
479
00:35:50,815 --> 00:35:53,295
I'd want Andrés and Xavi ...
480
00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:59,734
in my team until the day they retire.
481
00:36:02,574 --> 00:36:05,694
Barça's style of football is
different to any team in the world.
482
00:36:05,815 --> 00:36:11,615
At Barça, there is a very
specific way you have to play.
483
00:36:11,735 --> 00:36:15,975
You can't just boot the ball clear.
484
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:22,455
Defenders have to control the ball,
dribble and make the right pass.
485
00:36:22,574 --> 00:36:23,734
It's not easy.
486
00:36:23,854 --> 00:36:27,940
In the Premier League or at Real Madrid,
you clear the ball.
487
00:36:27,214 --> 00:36:29,734
And that isn't a problem at most other clubs.
488
00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:33,494
But at Barça that's not enough.
You have to do a lot more.
489
00:36:35,855 --> 00:36:37,455
It's a unique philosophy.
490
00:36:39,550 --> 00:36:44,535
And that's why it's so
difficult for new players ...
491
00:36:44,654 --> 00:36:46,974
to adapt to our style of play.
492
00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:52,374
It might look easy but it's something
we've been practicing for years.
493
00:36:52,493 --> 00:36:58,530
Most of us have been playing
this way since we were kids.
494
00:36:58,173 --> 00:37:01,573
Playing for Barça isn't easy.
495
00:37:01,694 --> 00:37:04,214
You see all these players
that are here for a long time.
496
00:37:04,294 --> 00:37:07,894
They come through the youth system
and walk into the first team,
497
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,652
and it's as if they've been there
for many, many years.
498
00:37:10,773 --> 00:37:12,130
Coming here wasn't so easy
499
00:37:12,134 --> 00:37:14,854
because there are certain
elements of the game ...
500
00:37:14,974 --> 00:37:17,254
that you haven't been taught.
501
00:37:17,813 --> 00:37:19,733
You see players ...
502
00:37:19,853 --> 00:37:24,213
I could tell you a few
names but I'm not allowed.
503
00:37:24,334 --> 00:37:28,454
But world-class, spectacular footballers,
504
00:37:28,572 --> 00:37:30,412
who were completely lost.
505
00:37:30,533 --> 00:37:32,130
They ended up in hysterics.
506
00:37:32,134 --> 00:37:35,540
It was more the style of play
that I had to adapt to.
507
00:37:35,173 --> 00:37:41,130
Staying on the line to make sure
that you can free Andrés,
508
00:37:41,132 --> 00:37:42,492
make the run in behind,
509
00:37:42,613 --> 00:37:45,813
knowing that nine times
or eight times out of ten,
510
00:37:45,932 --> 00:37:47,332
you will not get that ball.
511
00:37:47,453 --> 00:37:50,493
But if you don't make the run,
Andrés doesn't get the ball.
512
00:37:56,332 --> 00:38:00,692
My first move when Abidal had the ball
and he's about to control it,
513
00:38:00,813 --> 00:38:02,653
I always have to ask for the ball in behind.
514
00:38:03,771 --> 00:38:06,110
Every single time. It's a dummy run.
515
00:38:07,773 --> 00:38:13,253
Now Andrés gets the ball,
Sam now makes a run for Andrés,
516
00:38:13,372 --> 00:38:15,132
so Andrés can play him there,
517
00:38:15,252 --> 00:38:18,732
Andrés can play me as I come back
from an offside position,
518
00:38:19,132 --> 00:38:22,932
Or, if not, third choice,
Andrés skills you by his dribble.
519
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,332
You have a guy dropping, a guy running
520
00:38:25,452 --> 00:38:27,612
and a guy with the ball
running at you, so,
521
00:38:27,733 --> 00:38:29,933
by the time you stop
to realize what's happening,
522
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:31,530
you're already in trouble.
523
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,612
Some guys managed to get it in the end
like Thierry Henry and Abidal,
524
00:38:39,730 --> 00:38:41,250
who both struggled at the start.
525
00:38:41,371 --> 00:38:45,691
But some other really talented
players just didn't make it.
526
00:38:46,971 --> 00:38:48,451
I missed my chance.
527
00:38:48,571 --> 00:38:53,811
I was full of this fire,
of this desire to, you know, to play
528
00:38:53,931 --> 00:38:55,651
and sometimes it was like ...
529
00:38:55,772 --> 00:39:00,252
I mean, I just wanted to
immediately show what I can.
530
00:39:00,370 --> 00:39:03,370
And sometimes it was against me.
531
00:39:05,692 --> 00:39:07,572
Barça is a hard team to play for,
particularly at center-back.
532
00:39:07,690 --> 00:39:11,490
If you make a couple of early mistakes,
the fans get on your back,
533
00:39:11,611 --> 00:39:14,731
and the pressure really builds.
534
00:39:15,130 --> 00:39:20,890
But Chygrynskiy's qualities
were perfect for Barça.
535
00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:28,100
To turn the crowd around is not easy,
especially at Barcelona.
536
00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:33,370
I think it was Xavi who said,
"This is a very special place.
537
00:39:33,489 --> 00:39:35,809
I've played here for many years,
538
00:39:35,929 --> 00:39:38,769
but believe me,
if I play one or two games not good,
539
00:39:39,411 --> 00:39:42,291
these people can destroy me."
540
00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:48,100
I got it as a joke
but then I felt that it ...
541
00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:51,450
That it was not.
542
00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:56,410
Despite being a home-grown player,
I've suffered things
543
00:39:56,531 --> 00:39:57,651
that crossed the line.
544
00:39:57,770 --> 00:40:00,610
In 2003, I was the "Cancer of Barça."
545
00:40:00,729 --> 00:40:04,129
In 2014, I was "old and good for nothing."
546
00:40:04,770 --> 00:40:06,500
It's a roller coaster.
547
00:40:06,169 --> 00:40:10,529
Barça is the most difficult club in the world.
548
00:40:10,649 --> 00:40:11,689
No doubt about it.
549
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:16,130
Imagine for a new signing.
It must be twice as difficult.
550
00:40:16,249 --> 00:40:18,849
I felt this difference,
that I needed to learn
551
00:40:18,968 --> 00:40:21,480
this language of football,
552
00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:24,370
how to create space, how to defend,
553
00:40:24,490 --> 00:40:28,610
and all the things that the
players were already playing.
554
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,888
We played a game against Osasuna ...
555
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:38,889
and Osasuna were not defending well that area.
556
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,248
The guy there was not tucking in well.
557
00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:46,370
So that day Chygrynskiy played
because he had a great left foot.
558
00:40:46,488 --> 00:40:48,848
He could ping the ball well
with his left and right foot.
559
00:40:48,968 --> 00:40:50,208
But an amazing left foot.
560
00:40:50,329 --> 00:40:53,609
We were going to always play
in the center back ...
561
00:40:53,729 --> 00:40:56,809
that was going to play across for Xavi.
562
00:40:56,928 --> 00:40:59,728
Whenever we were moving,
Xavi stayed in that zone.
563
00:41:00,649 --> 00:41:02,209
So that was the exit.
564
00:41:02,328 --> 00:41:03,888
But what was funny that day
565
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,648
is that Chygrynskiy twice
played the ball long for Zlatan.
566
00:41:08,768 --> 00:41:09,768
And it was on.
567
00:41:09,887 --> 00:41:12,207
Zlatan nearly went one v one with the keeper.
568
00:41:14,767 --> 00:41:16,727
Pep took him off at half-time ...
569
00:41:19,208 --> 00:41:21,528
because he didn't respect the pattern.
570
00:41:21,648 --> 00:41:26,728
That's the way he studied that team
and that's the way he asked us to play.
571
00:41:26,848 --> 00:41:31,328
The vocabulary of Guardiola or my father
is building up from behind,
572
00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:32,447
possession,
573
00:41:33,408 --> 00:41:36,928
the speed of the ball is more important
than the speed of the legs,
574
00:41:37,527 --> 00:41:41,167
always play attractive football
to keep your fans happy.
575
00:41:41,487 --> 00:41:43,727
I mean, there are so many similarities.
576
00:41:43,848 --> 00:41:45,608
When you play for Barcelona
577
00:41:45,726 --> 00:41:47,366
and especially after Guardiola came,
578
00:41:47,487 --> 00:41:51,687
that's where you really learn
how to play the Barcelona way.
579
00:41:51,807 --> 00:41:56,607
It's 11, not just the strikers
or not just the midfielders.
580
00:41:56,728 --> 00:42:00,528
The 11 players have to participate
to create the chance.
581
00:42:00,646 --> 00:42:05,686
Basically, what we want to do
is try to put the ball to the strikers ...
582
00:42:05,806 --> 00:42:08,966
with a really good pass,
so that they can have one on one.
583
00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:12,287
But obviously if you pass them a long ball ...
584
00:42:12,407 --> 00:42:15,767
that's not really easy to control,
585
00:42:15,886 --> 00:42:18,606
the striker will not do his job.
586
00:42:18,725 --> 00:42:22,645
It's all about starting from the back,
to the strikers.
587
00:42:25,487 --> 00:42:27,487
Pep took risks all over the pitch.
588
00:42:27,606 --> 00:42:33,460
I think he made two great
innovations as our coach,
589
00:42:33,606 --> 00:42:35,886
One was pressing after losing the ball
590
00:42:36,325 --> 00:42:39,525
and the other was playing out from the back.
591
00:42:44,766 --> 00:42:46,846
I remember my first conversation
with Guardiola as coach.
592
00:42:46,967 --> 00:42:49,527
It was in his office at the Camp Nou.
593
00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:54,460
He had a tactics board
with two small magnets ...
594
00:42:54,165 --> 00:42:58,805
either side of the goal,
just outside of the box.
595
00:42:58,925 --> 00:43:01,765
He said, "Do you know
which players these two are ?"
596
00:43:02,406 --> 00:43:04,606
I said, "Nope."
597
00:43:04,726 --> 00:43:07,206
And he said,
"These are your center-backs."
598
00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:12,205
I had no idea what he was talking about.
It sounded Chinese.
599
00:43:12,326 --> 00:43:18,566
And he said, "When you've got the ball,
this is where I want them to be."
600
00:43:20,165 --> 00:43:22,725
I thought he was crazy.
601
00:43:23,485 --> 00:43:29,365
And then he said, "You'll pass to them,
and from there we'll build the play."
602
00:43:29,484 --> 00:43:33,400
I still thought he was completely mad,
603
00:43:33,125 --> 00:43:36,885
but given that I'm a bit crazy myself,
I felt in tune with him.
604
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:39,645
So I told him the defenders
would have to be brave ...
605
00:43:39,764 --> 00:43:42,764
and want the ball.
606
00:43:42,886 --> 00:43:46,126
And Pep said, "Don't worry, that's my job.
607
00:43:46,245 --> 00:43:47,765
I'll make sure they want it."
608
00:43:48,245 --> 00:43:49,525
That's how it started.
609
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,440
Both Pep and Tito took
this idea one step further.
610
00:43:58,685 --> 00:44:04,565
They told us not to worry ...
611
00:44:04,684 --> 00:44:06,204
because if we made a mistake,
612
00:44:06,324 --> 00:44:08,164
they would take responsibility.
613
00:44:08,285 --> 00:44:10,725
All they asked was that we play
the ball out from the back ...
614
00:44:10,845 --> 00:44:17,365
because that was the way
Barça had to play football.
615
00:44:20,243 --> 00:44:23,683
He would show us how he wanted us
to play the ball out from the back.
616
00:44:23,804 --> 00:44:25,764
He said that by doing this, we'd score.
617
00:44:25,882 --> 00:44:28,842
So why would I stop playing that
Way if I made a mistake ?
618
00:44:28,964 --> 00:44:32,524
We both knew that it was risky.
619
00:44:32,644 --> 00:44:36,444
But he would say,
"Don't worry if you make a mistake.
620
00:44:36,964 --> 00:44:39,444
Just keep playing exactly the same way."
621
00:44:59,364 --> 00:45:02,444
We believe it's about
much more than just winning.
622
00:45:02,563 --> 00:45:05,403
The message isn't "win, win, win".
623
00:45:05,523 --> 00:45:07,283
Winning is a result of how you play.
624
00:45:07,403 --> 00:45:09,363
The philosophy is the most important thing.
625
00:45:09,843 --> 00:45:13,300
You know you've done something
when people just want to watch you play.
626
00:45:13,830 --> 00:45:14,830
Not win.
627
00:45:14,883 --> 00:45:18,883
When you talk about Barcelona,
you're talking about the way they play,
628
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:20,561
the beauty of the game.
629
00:45:27,682 --> 00:45:31,402
You go home and you go like,
"You should watch the second goal ...
630
00:45:31,522 --> 00:45:34,420
and, by the way, they won."
631
00:45:45,522 --> 00:45:49,402
There was a sign on the door
of the coaches' room, which said,
632
00:45:49,521 --> 00:45:55,881
"If you're offering us a youth player
who's less than 1.8 meters tall,
633
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,282
turn around and go home."
634
00:45:57,401 --> 00:46:01,761
It was Cruyff who changed that,
when he returned as manager.
635
00:46:01,881 --> 00:46:08,410
He believed that talent was the key
and height was irrelevant.
636
00:46:11,881 --> 00:46:13,161
From then on, players were judged
only on their quality.
637
00:46:13,281 --> 00:46:17,810
Is he good or not ?
Regardless of their height.
638
00:46:17,201 --> 00:46:20,721
Look at Jordi, Xavi, Messi and Andrés.
639
00:46:20,842 --> 00:46:25,420
On top of each other they barely reach
normal height. They're all tiny !
640
00:46:26,601 --> 00:46:30,100
Small players have enormous
advantages over big players.
641
00:46:30,121 --> 00:46:33,121
They can start, stop and turn quicker.
642
00:46:33,242 --> 00:46:35,122
The best players are all small.
643
00:46:36,420 --> 00:46:38,482
Messi has given a lot of people,
644
00:46:38,602 --> 00:46:42,820
a lot of young football dreamers,
a whole new hope.
645
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,560
It's not about the 1 meter 80.
646
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,240
It's much more than that.
647
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,800
It's intelligence.
648
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,760
In the end,
if the brain is faster than the ball,
649
00:46:53,481 --> 00:46:54,601
you dominate.
650
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:06,279
One of my friends worked
in the youth academy,
651
00:47:06,921 --> 00:47:09,881
when Messi was 14 or 15.
652
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,240
I always asked about the kids,
which of them looked special,
653
00:47:14,361 --> 00:47:17,241
who was likely to make it
and reach the first team.
654
00:47:17,919 --> 00:47:20,679
He said to me,
"There's this kid from Argentina,
655
00:47:20,799 --> 00:47:24,279
and I've never seen anyone
with the talent he's got."
656
00:47:24,401 --> 00:47:28,810
When Messi started training with
us at the age of 16,
657
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,760
we all realized he was special.
658
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:03,679
I had a big network of scouts in South America.
659
00:48:03,798 --> 00:48:08,958
One of them told me there was a kid in Rosario.
660
00:48:09,790 --> 00:48:13,519
He was only 12 years old but he was unique.
661
00:48:13,638 --> 00:48:18,318
Nowadays, clubs invest in youngsters,
but it didn't happen back then.
662
00:48:18,439 --> 00:48:23,359
It wasn't easy, but Charly Rexach helped
and we decided to bring him over.
663
00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:26,318
Nobody wanted to take a risk on me.
664
00:48:27,398 --> 00:48:31,478
It was a big gamble to sign
such a small kid from abroad,
665
00:48:31,598 --> 00:48:34,998
and bring him to Barcelona.
666
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:40,319
It was Charly Rexach who made it happen.
667
00:48:40,439 --> 00:48:44,639
He came to watch me play and told me
that Barça definitely wanted me.
668
00:48:45,399 --> 00:48:48,879
It was thanks to him and the coaches
who wanted to sign me,
669
00:48:48,998 --> 00:48:51,638
although there were some who didn't.
670
00:48:51,758 --> 00:48:58,118
But mainly it's thanks to Charly
that I signed for Barça.
671
00:48:59,877 --> 00:49:01,557
I've always said it was an honor
to have brought Messi to this club.
672
00:49:01,678 --> 00:49:04,278
My small part in Messi's arrival
673
00:49:04,398 --> 00:49:08,198
was that I kept nagging until we signed him.
674
00:49:08,598 --> 00:49:11,358
If you went to the board back then,
675
00:49:11,478 --> 00:49:15,158
and told them that we needed
to sign a 12-year-old kid,
676
00:49:15,276 --> 00:49:17,516
their first reaction was,
677
00:49:17,637 --> 00:49:20,517
"Let's talk again in eight years."
678
00:49:20,637 --> 00:49:22,597
But I said, "No. We have to sign him.
679
00:49:23,196 --> 00:49:28,116
He's very good,
and one day, he'll be incredible."
680
00:49:28,236 --> 00:49:31,760
That was my success. I insisted on it.
681
00:49:31,198 --> 00:49:36,318
Even back then, it was already obvious
that Messi was out of this world.
682
00:49:39,837 --> 00:49:42,557
So I told Rexach that I
needed something in writing.
683
00:49:42,676 --> 00:49:44,636
His parents had been here a month,
684
00:49:44,757 --> 00:49:49,597
and I kept reassuring them,
but there was no official agreement.
685
00:49:49,717 --> 00:49:52,197
We were at the Pompeia Tennis Club on Montjuic,
686
00:49:52,316 --> 00:49:58,116
and there were napkins on the table,
so Rexach took one and wrote,
687
00:49:58,236 --> 00:50:01,196
"I, Carles Rexach,
advisor to the president,
688
00:50:01,315 --> 00:50:05,355
confirm that Leo Messi has the
qualities to sign for FC Barcelona."
689
00:50:05,476 --> 00:50:07,196
He signed it and then I signed it.
690
00:50:07,317 --> 00:50:09,197
We still have the napkin stored in the bank ...
691
00:50:09,317 --> 00:50:14,117
because it's delicate
and it needs looking after.
692
00:50:15,436 --> 00:50:18,636
By signing the napkin,
I wanted to show Messi's family ...
693
00:50:18,755 --> 00:50:21,515
that I was committed to
signing him for FC Barcelona.
694
00:50:22,996 --> 00:50:26,236
I think Barcelona and Messi just ...
It was destined.
695
00:50:26,356 --> 00:50:28,236
It just had to be this way.
696
00:50:28,355 --> 00:50:31,235
He came to the best club
that he could have.
697
00:50:52,876 --> 00:50:54,716
It was difficult at first.
698
00:50:55,475 --> 00:51:00,750
I was very young and everything was new.
699
00:51:00,196 --> 00:51:04,236
I'd left behind family members,
friends, my country.
700
00:51:04,354 --> 00:51:10,634
It was tough to start with,
but I managed to settle in.
701
00:51:10,756 --> 00:51:13,196
Most of us knew
that a phenomenon was coming.
702
00:51:13,315 --> 00:51:15,635
But the Gamper tournament was the proof.
703
00:51:15,755 --> 00:51:16,915
It was the first night,
704
00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:18,834
of which there have been so many since,
705
00:51:18,955 --> 00:51:23,755
when 99,000 lucky people at
the Camp Nou simply paid homage ...
706
00:51:23,874 --> 00:51:26,914
to something more exciting, more uplifting ...
707
00:51:27,340 --> 00:51:28,914
than they'd ever witnessed before.
708
00:51:29,594 --> 00:51:33,194
I was there that night and
the effect was spine-tingling.
709
00:51:42,793 --> 00:51:44,393
It was a very special day,
710
00:51:44,514 --> 00:51:49,194
and I loved every minute.
711
00:51:49,913 --> 00:51:52,473
It was the Gamper tournament,
712
00:51:52,593 --> 00:51:58,113
and I was in the starting XI.
713
00:51:59,234 --> 00:52:03,994
It was a huge moment for me
because after that game,
714
00:52:04,114 --> 00:52:07,340
everything changed.
715
00:52:07,153 --> 00:52:10,553
That's where it all started.
716
00:52:12,953 --> 00:52:16,553
I remember telling Patrick
Vieira before that match ...
717
00:52:16,674 --> 00:52:21,954
to be very careful because he
was up against a young kid ...
718
00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:24,634
who would change history.
719
00:52:24,753 --> 00:52:29,193
One day, it would seem like every
player who came before Messi, even me,
720
00:52:29,314 --> 00:52:31,554
were playing a different sport.
721
00:52:32,953 --> 00:52:35,113
It was incredible what this kid was doing ...
722
00:52:35,233 --> 00:52:38,913
against the likes of Vieira,
a first team player at Juve.
723
00:52:39,554 --> 00:52:44,740
He was drifting past big,
physical players.
724
00:52:44,193 --> 00:52:46,433
Messi just did whatever he wanted.
725
00:52:46,552 --> 00:52:50,872
And Capello asked if
he could take him on loan.
726
00:52:59,352 --> 00:53:00,712
Capello's no fool !
727
00:53:01,953 --> 00:53:03,793
Initially, I didn't know
anything about Messi.
728
00:53:03,912 --> 00:53:08,112
Only that he was going to play.
729
00:53:08,233 --> 00:53:10,473
I saw that he was just a young kid,
730
00:53:10,592 --> 00:53:15,832
but when the game started,
he began doing incredible things.
731
00:53:15,952 --> 00:53:19,720
Rijkaard was the Barcelona coach back then.
732
00:53:20,152 --> 00:53:24,592
It was the Gamper trophy,
a friendly match.
733
00:53:24,711 --> 00:53:28,271
The referee wasn't that strict
and we could move about,
734
00:53:28,391 --> 00:53:30,631
so I walked over to Rijkaard,
735
00:53:30,752 --> 00:53:37,720
and asked if I could take Messi on loan.
736
00:53:37,191 --> 00:53:41,310
You weren't allowed as many
foreigners in your team back then.
737
00:53:41,152 --> 00:53:43,992
I said, "You've already got
three foreign players.
738
00:53:44,111 --> 00:53:46,231
There's no place for him".
739
00:53:46,352 --> 00:53:51,872
But Rijkaard said that they were
already looking for a solution,
740
00:53:51,991 --> 00:53:58,231
and Messi would be a regular
in the team very soon.
741
00:53:58,831 --> 00:53:59,831
It's just ...
742
00:54:01,791 --> 00:54:02,831
How do you describe it ?
743
00:54:02,910 --> 00:54:06,990
Basically everyone knew this guy is
going to be the best in the world.
744
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:08,830
And there was no doubt about it.
745
00:54:33,911 --> 00:54:35,310
I knew about his goal scoring ability,
746
00:54:35,470 --> 00:54:39,700
and fortunately, Guardiola
put him in that false nine position.
747
00:54:39,191 --> 00:54:41,791
It meant that alongside
Eto'o and the other strikers,
748
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:46,300
he had more freedom in attack.
749
00:54:46,631 --> 00:54:52,631
That tactical change
was a huge benefit to him.
750
00:55:16,991 --> 00:55:19,511
It's very difficult to pick Leo's best goal.
751
00:55:19,630 --> 00:55:23,150
The one he scored against Getafe comes to mind.
752
00:55:24,109 --> 00:55:26,149
When you see what he produces day in day out,
753
00:55:26,268 --> 00:55:28,680
it's impossible to choose one goal.
754
00:55:38,668 --> 00:55:41,588
They were just flashes of Maradona against England.
755
00:55:42,190 --> 00:55:44,910
And I knew at that time,
756
00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:48,869
right in the moment that I've witnessed
something incredible here.
757
00:55:48,988 --> 00:55:51,788
It's one of his great goals,
probably one of the greatest,
758
00:55:51,908 --> 00:55:54,788
but if you get a video of his goals,
759
00:55:55,948 --> 00:56:01,748
he's probably scored another 50 like it,
which makes him exceptional.
760
00:56:10,749 --> 00:56:16,469
One of my favorites is the goal
he scored against Arsenal.
761
00:56:16,908 --> 00:56:20,280
It was like watching someone on the PlayStation.
762
00:56:20,147 --> 00:56:26,707
He flicks it over Almunia
at the last second and then scores.
763
00:56:35,187 --> 00:56:36,787
I love it because of that skill.
764
00:56:36,908 --> 00:56:40,108
Any other player would smash
it into the net first time,
765
00:56:40,226 --> 00:56:45,506
but he had the composure
to flick the ball up and then finish.
766
00:56:45,629 --> 00:56:49,149
The best goal I've seen him score
was against Málaga at home ...
767
00:56:49,507 --> 00:56:51,787
because that defied logic what he did.
768
00:56:53,106 --> 00:56:55,986
Diagonal ball,
controlled the ball on his chest,
769
00:56:56,748 --> 00:56:58,348
he runs full speed.
770
00:57:00,670 --> 00:57:03,347
The first player goes,
the second player's just behind him.
771
00:57:05,267 --> 00:57:08,547
If he takes another step
that player will clear the ball.
772
00:57:08,668 --> 00:57:11,508
OK, if you stop the ball
on your left foot here,
773
00:57:12,787 --> 00:57:17,627
how do you go back with that same leg
to touch the ball in the air,
774
00:57:18,546 --> 00:57:20,546
to make sure that guy doesn't touch it ?
775
00:57:20,666 --> 00:57:22,106
Then he almost fell.
776
00:57:22,227 --> 00:57:25,147
He almost fell and smashed it
to first post, top corner.
777
00:57:26,225 --> 00:57:27,385
That's not normal.
778
00:57:33,660 --> 00:57:34,786
Regardless of the fact that he's Messi,
in training, he wants to win.
779
00:57:34,906 --> 00:57:38,906
He'll get annoyed
if he doesn't get the ball ...
780
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:41,107
and angry if he's fouled.
781
00:57:41,226 --> 00:57:44,146
And that tells you a lot
about a champion like him.
782
00:57:44,267 --> 00:57:48,707
In training, if the boss
doesn't call a foul or whatever,
783
00:57:48,825 --> 00:57:53,250
he used to go and ask,
"It's not a foul ? OK."
784
00:57:53,145 --> 00:57:57,345
He used to go and get the ball,
run past everyone, score.
785
00:57:58,660 --> 00:57:59,546
Now you get the ball, you try to go,
786
00:57:59,667 --> 00:58:02,507
he runs after you,
gets the ball back, scores,
787
00:58:02,866 --> 00:58:07,306
until he gets in a normal
state again and he relaxes.
788
00:58:07,426 --> 00:58:09,260
Next thing you know you're 3-1 down.
789
00:58:09,425 --> 00:58:12,825
He's a player who's different from the rest.
790
00:58:13,425 --> 00:58:15,625
He's very talented and earns lots of money,
791
00:58:15,746 --> 00:58:21,266
but when you meet him
it's like he isn't a star at all.
792
00:58:24,704 --> 00:58:30,624
I've known him for ten or 12 years
and he's not the most outgoing person ...
793
00:58:30,745 --> 00:58:34,625
but he's just a normal, humble guy.
794
00:58:34,744 --> 00:58:36,504
He's very quiet,
795
00:58:36,625 --> 00:58:40,265
but when his feet do the talking,
he's unique.
796
00:58:40,385 --> 00:58:42,145
He's an absolute winner.
797
00:58:42,264 --> 00:58:46,624
He has the desire to always be
the best on the pitch,
798
00:58:46,744 --> 00:58:50,584
and that's why he became the best
player in the history of this game.
799
00:58:56,264 --> 00:59:00,904
I was lucky enough to play
against Pelé and Cruyff.
800
00:59:01,250 --> 00:59:02,265
I watched Maradona play.
801
00:59:02,384 --> 00:59:06,984
They have all made a big
difference in this sport.
802
00:59:07,104 --> 00:59:09,224
But nowadays there is no one like Leo Messi.
803
00:59:09,344 --> 00:59:12,904
He does things that other players
can't even think about doing.
804
00:59:15,825 --> 00:59:18,650
He does the impossible, the incredible.
805
00:59:18,185 --> 00:59:21,105
He moves at a different speed to everyone else.
806
00:59:22,383 --> 00:59:26,503
It's like the ball is glued to his
foot and he keeps showing it to you
807
00:59:26,624 --> 00:59:31,304
and just when you think you can get it,
it's already too late.
808
00:59:32,743 --> 00:59:39,663
It's difficult to talk about Leo
and put it into our words ...
809
00:59:39,784 --> 00:59:41,584
because he's not on our planet.
810
00:59:43,342 --> 00:59:45,822
In every game I'd be watching,
waiting to see what he would do
811
00:59:45,943 --> 00:59:48,863
because he's the player
who wins you every game.
812
00:59:49,543 --> 00:59:53,303
When he takes the ball,
something's going to happen.
813
00:59:56,864 --> 00:59:58,944
He's capable of starting
the move and finishing it off, as well.
814
01:00:01,620 --> 01:00:03,742
Normally, players can do one or the other,
815
01:00:06,182 --> 01:00:07,622
But he's different.
816
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:11,583
He's better than you with
his right foot, left foot and head,
817
01:00:11,704 --> 01:00:13,584
at defending and attacking.
818
01:00:13,702 --> 01:00:14,782
He's faster,
819
01:00:16,624 --> 01:00:18,864
better at dribbling and passing.
820
01:00:26,461 --> 01:00:27,821
Goalkeeper ?
821
01:00:27,942 --> 01:00:30,662
Well, we haven't put him in goal yet.
822
01:00:30,782 --> 01:00:34,782
But watch out if he tries that too !
823
01:00:43,422 --> 01:00:46,342
The impact and importance
of Cruyff as a player,
824
01:00:46,461 --> 01:00:49,341
and then the Dream Team coach at Barça, huge.
825
01:00:49,461 --> 01:00:51,901
But Joan Laporta's devotion to the Dutchman ...
826
01:00:52,210 --> 01:00:53,741
meant that he stood for election,
827
01:00:53,861 --> 01:00:55,501
and once he won the presidency,
828
01:00:55,622 --> 01:00:58,582
he ushered in that golden era of all-time ...
829
01:00:59,221 --> 01:01:03,621
by handing the GPS to Cruyff,
about the football philosophy,
830
01:01:03,741 --> 01:01:06,501
and the appointment of the
right men to implement it.
831
01:01:06,941 --> 01:01:10,101
It's for those three things :
great player, brilliant coach,
832
01:01:10,223 --> 01:01:12,703
and the greatest ever professor,
833
01:01:12,822 --> 01:01:15,422
that Cruyff has become the most important man ...
834
01:01:15,542 --> 01:01:18,220
in the history of professional football.
835
01:01:18,702 --> 01:01:23,262
I think it was ... it was crucial,
the contribution of Cruyff.
836
01:01:23,382 --> 01:01:25,942
It wasn't like a day-to-day office job,
837
01:01:26,620 --> 01:01:30,622
but we knew that he was
providing ideas and support.
838
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,580
He advised us on all
of our football decisions.
839
01:01:34,701 --> 01:01:37,901
Johan created and developed
a certain style of football,
840
01:01:38,220 --> 01:01:44,102
and Rijkaard contributed his own
personality, ideas and experience.
841
01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:51,340
People remember Pep's time in charge ...
842
01:01:51,461 --> 01:01:53,381
because it was a very successful era,
843
01:01:53,501 --> 01:01:57,221
but I'll never forget Frank's time at the club,
844
01:01:57,340 --> 01:01:59,700
which was also a very successful few years.
845
01:02:00,140 --> 01:02:05,100
During Madrid's Galáctico era,
they were winning everything,
846
01:02:05,220 --> 01:02:07,220
and it felt like we couldn't beat them.
847
01:02:07,340 --> 01:02:09,700
But with Rijkaard, we put an end to that,
848
01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:14,540
which for me personally
was a very proud moment.
849
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:28,990
Barça was already a huge brand,
850
01:02:28,219 --> 01:02:32,259
but we were looking at the museum
and there was only one Champions League.
851
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:45,979
If you watch the final,
I don't think we deserved to lose.
852
01:03:11,218 --> 01:03:13,338
After the births of my children,
that was the best night of my life.
853
01:03:13,459 --> 01:03:20,419
I honestly thought it would
be my last game for Barça ...
854
01:03:20,619 --> 01:03:23,299
because I'd had a really tough year.
855
01:03:23,419 --> 01:03:27,859
It was thanks to Frank
that I played that day.
856
01:03:27,978 --> 01:03:30,458
He was like a father to me.
857
01:03:30,579 --> 01:03:35,499
And in the end,
we lifted the European Cup together.
858
01:03:41,580 --> 01:03:43,178
After winning in Paris,
that magical point,
859
01:03:43,299 --> 01:03:48,219
that turning point for the club,
the following season wasn't that good.
860
01:03:48,338 --> 01:03:53,338
The leading players were not really
leading the group properly.
861
01:03:54,580 --> 01:03:57,978
Maybe we had so much success so early
that maybe it was too early.
862
01:03:58,738 --> 01:04:01,898
Slowly, but steadily,
we were going in the wrong direction.
863
01:04:02,180 --> 01:04:05,858
The second season that I was here,
Rijkaard was still in charge.
864
01:04:05,978 --> 01:04:12,218
I think it's one of the worst seasons
in the recent history of Barcelona,
865
01:04:12,337 --> 01:04:13,617
where we came third.
866
01:04:14,977 --> 01:04:17,737
We went backwards after winning in Paris,
867
01:04:17,857 --> 01:04:19,617
and winning the league.
868
01:04:19,737 --> 01:04:25,170
We'd stopped competing.
we'd lost our fire, our hunger.
869
01:04:25,137 --> 01:04:28,970
You could sense through the
season that it was the end of an era.
870
01:04:28,218 --> 01:04:29,498
People wanted a change,
871
01:04:29,617 --> 01:04:32,977
and I was part of the people
that they wanted out.
872
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:34,936
It was very difficult.
873
01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:41,618
I've only been sent off twice:
Once because the referee made a mistake,
874
01:04:41,737 --> 01:04:43,177
and once at the Bernabéu.
875
01:04:50,496 --> 01:04:52,256
I felt angry and powerless.
876
01:04:52,376 --> 01:04:54,176
They were running rings around us.
877
01:04:54,297 --> 01:04:59,577
Never mind 4-1, we could have lost 7-1.
878
01:04:59,696 --> 01:05:02,856
It was one of the worst nights of my career,
879
01:05:02,976 --> 01:05:05,256
and the same goes for Puyol and everyone else.
880
01:05:10,456 --> 01:05:14,960
It just wasn't good enough.
Not for the standards people set here.
881
01:05:14,217 --> 01:05:15,897
Not good enough for the club.
882
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,496
And not good enough if you
look at the players that we had.
883
01:05:19,616 --> 01:05:21,176
Something had to change.
884
01:05:31,977 --> 01:05:35,617
Mourinho does come out
of this story as the bad guy,
885
01:05:35,695 --> 01:05:39,135
but in 2008, he was a
perfectly legitimate candidate ...
886
01:05:39,255 --> 01:05:41,775
to succeed the failing Frank Rijkaard.
887
01:05:42,417 --> 01:05:43,417
He's a winner,
888
01:05:43,535 --> 01:05:47,375
and it felt like a safer
choice because he was a big brand,
889
01:05:47,496 --> 01:05:52,960
and he'd recently coached Chelsea, etc.,
and he was on the market.
890
01:05:53,375 --> 01:05:54,895
It was a long process,
there were many board members
891
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,160
who wanted Mourinho.
892
01:05:56,135 --> 01:06:02,455
They argued that we needed a manager
who would get results quickly.
893
01:06:03,135 --> 01:06:07,255
Given there were four or five
directors keen on Mourinho,
894
01:06:07,376 --> 01:06:14,560
the vice president organized
a meeting with him and off he went.
895
01:06:14,334 --> 01:06:17,294
By that time he was employing the 4-3-3,
896
01:06:17,414 --> 01:06:18,974
he even prepared a PowerPoint ...
897
01:06:19,950 --> 01:06:23,895
with some pitch positions of the
players and typical movements.
898
01:06:24,140 --> 01:06:26,574
I'm sure he would have been successful.
899
01:06:32,494 --> 01:06:33,654
Mourinho helped us a lot
when we were young players.
900
01:06:33,775 --> 01:06:40,550
Van Gaal often sent him
to take Barça B training.
901
01:06:43,550 --> 01:06:45,950
I was with the under-19s
and he'd coach us once a week.
902
01:06:45,214 --> 01:06:51,334
It was the same style of football,
the Barça philosophy.
903
01:06:52,933 --> 01:06:55,173
The rondo, possession,
holding onto the ball, positional play.
904
01:06:55,294 --> 01:06:57,534
We worked on all of that with Mourinho.
905
01:06:57,653 --> 01:07:00,413
You could understand that Mourinho felt ...
906
01:07:00,533 --> 01:07:03,853
he should be in charge of making Barça
the greatest team in the world.
907
01:07:04,214 --> 01:07:07,254
But by 2008,
Mourinho had changed radically.
908
01:07:07,373 --> 01:07:12,130
It was about power, height,
athleticism, over technique.
909
01:07:13,775 --> 01:07:15,375
When he went to Chelsea,
910
01:07:15,492 --> 01:07:19,412
Mourinho's philosophy of the game changed.
911
01:07:19,774 --> 01:07:23,940
It's a very different style
to the football we play at Barça.
912
01:07:27,133 --> 01:07:30,130
We wanted to stay faithful
to Cruyff's philosophy.
913
01:07:31,534 --> 01:07:36,534
The president and Johan were good friends,
914
01:07:36,654 --> 01:07:40,614
and Laporta had complete
confidence in Johan's opinion.
915
01:07:40,733 --> 01:07:44,533
Johan told him the man for the job
was training the youth team.
916
01:07:45,293 --> 01:07:47,293
All he needed to do was promote him.
917
01:07:47,733 --> 01:07:51,693
There's a lot of football players ...
There were a lot of football players
918
01:07:51,813 --> 01:07:54,930
that came to visit my father periodically.
919
01:07:54,213 --> 01:07:55,213
My father loved that.
920
01:07:55,333 --> 01:08:00,130
And I know Pep also loved that,
and I know that they were meeting a lot.
921
01:08:00,132 --> 01:08:04,332
So when my father had,
what we could call a crazy idea
922
01:08:04,453 --> 01:08:07,213
that the coach who was in Barça B
in the third division,
923
01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:10,653
or the third level at the time, to say,
"Put him in the first team."
924
01:08:10,772 --> 01:08:13,292
That's a big gamble.
925
01:08:14,613 --> 01:08:15,693
I asked them if they
thought Pep was ready,
926
01:08:16,372 --> 01:08:20,172
and Txiki Begiristain and Johan,
who saw him regularly, said he was.
927
01:08:20,692 --> 01:08:22,932
Mourinho's agent called me and said,
928
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,412
"Are you going to appoint Mourinho or not ?
929
01:08:25,533 --> 01:08:30,333
Because if you're interested,
we need to talk."
930
01:08:30,452 --> 01:08:33,572
And I said to him,
"No, Jorge. We've chosen Pep Guardiola."
931
01:08:34,172 --> 01:08:36,852
So I told Pep that I wanted
him to be the next manager ...
932
01:08:36,971 --> 01:08:38,731
if the season didn't end well.
933
01:08:39,211 --> 01:08:46,211
We were having lunch and Pep,
half in jest, said to me,
934
01:08:46,571 --> 01:08:50,651
"If you appoint me as coach
I'll win everything for you."
935
01:08:50,772 --> 01:08:51,932
He honestly said that.
936
01:09:01,731 --> 01:09:03,571
When I heard that Guardiola
would be our new manager,
937
01:09:03,691 --> 01:09:06,731
I knew that everything would go well.
938
01:09:07,410 --> 01:09:09,890
I hadn't worked with him as a
coach but we were teammates,
939
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:13,410
and I knew what a perfectionist he was.
940
01:09:13,531 --> 01:09:15,331
And I thought, this is going to be great.
941
01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:20,770
In retrospect, it's remarkable,
but because of Euro 2008,
942
01:09:20,892 --> 01:09:24,572
Guardiola's appointment had garnered
very little media coverage in Spain ...
943
01:09:24,690 --> 01:09:26,410
until the day of his presentation ...
944
01:09:26,531 --> 01:09:30,651
when he sits there,
lean, young, full head of hair,
945
01:09:30,771 --> 01:09:33,910
the returning local hero and says,
946
01:09:33,211 --> 01:09:37,171
"Everything changes."
Ronaldinho, out ! Deco, out !
947
01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:41,900
Eto'o, out !
Or, at best, third choice striker.
948
01:09:41,211 --> 01:09:44,771
It was his statement of : "I'm in charge."
949
01:09:46,411 --> 01:09:49,691
Just imagine what Samuel was
like when he heard that.
950
01:09:49,810 --> 01:09:55,330
It was like an explosion.
951
01:10:03,490 --> 01:10:04,409
Given the kind of player I was,
952
01:10:04,530 --> 01:10:07,170
and considering what I'd done for the club,
953
01:10:07,289 --> 01:10:10,969
it would have been nice for Pep
to have called me with the news.
954
01:10:11,890 --> 01:10:13,129
It's always better to be straight with people.
955
01:10:13,249 --> 01:10:15,449
It was a big shock to find out that way.
956
01:10:18,489 --> 01:10:21,889
Tactically, he's the best in the world.
I've always said that.
957
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:23,970
He understands the game better than anyone,
958
01:10:24,910 --> 01:10:25,531
but I'll be even better ...
959
01:10:26,248 --> 01:10:28,480
because I'll be up front with people.
960
01:10:30,249 --> 01:10:32,289
Samuel took training seriously.
He trained as hard as he played.
961
01:10:33,329 --> 01:10:35,169
Every manager loved Eto'o ...
962
01:10:35,289 --> 01:10:40,900
but at training,
it was all or nothing with him,
963
01:10:40,130 --> 01:10:42,900
and he often caused problems.
964
01:10:42,210 --> 01:10:46,730
I remember Rijkaard told me
we had to get rid of Samuel ...
965
01:10:46,848 --> 01:10:51,808
because he grabbed one of the
assistants by the scruff of the neck ...
966
01:10:51,928 --> 01:10:54,208
for giving him offside in training.
967
01:10:54,328 --> 01:10:56,728
But that passion is also good.
968
01:10:57,210 --> 01:11:00,570
I remember the pre-season
training camp in St Andrews.
969
01:11:00,689 --> 01:11:02,900
We were all curious.
970
01:11:02,127 --> 01:11:04,327
We'd sold Deco and Ronaldinho,
971
01:11:04,969 --> 01:11:06,609
but I was keen to keep Eto'o,
972
01:11:06,728 --> 01:11:10,448
and I told him that I'd try to keep him.
973
01:11:11,767 --> 01:11:12,807
He was brilliant during that pre-season.
974
01:11:12,929 --> 01:11:15,729
He worked harder and
ran more than anyone else.
975
01:11:17,208 --> 01:11:20,888
In the pre-season games
he scored more than anyone.
976
01:11:22,127 --> 01:11:25,167
So the captains went to see Pep ...
977
01:11:25,289 --> 01:11:27,409
I hope Pep doesn't get annoyed I'm sharing this !
978
01:11:27,527 --> 01:11:31,607
They told Pep that ...
Eto'o would be a big help that season.
979
01:11:32,567 --> 01:11:35,870
The guy they wanted to kick out saved them.
980
01:11:35,209 --> 01:11:37,369
Everyone talks about Messi these days,
981
01:11:37,486 --> 01:11:40,366
but the one who made the
difference at Barça back then
982
01:11:40,488 --> 01:11:42,448
wasn't Ronaldinho. It was Eto'o.
983
01:11:43,890 --> 01:11:46,209
When things got difficult,
it was me they all looked to.
984
01:11:49,767 --> 01:11:52,167
The team could have played without a manager.
985
01:11:52,647 --> 01:11:56,127
Guardiola's job was to reinstall a desire to win,
986
01:11:56,247 --> 01:11:59,127
and he achieved that with his team talks.
987
01:12:09,527 --> 01:12:11,687
After his first team talk in St Andrews ...
988
01:12:13,700 --> 01:12:15,927
I knew that something big was about to happen.
989
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:20,367
I'd never heard anyone convey
a message like that before.
990
01:12:20,486 --> 01:12:25,886
At that moment,
everyone knew that things would go well.
991
01:12:27,486 --> 01:12:28,526
Pep spoke to the players a lot.
992
01:12:28,648 --> 01:12:31,648
Maybe his most famous team
talk was when he said,
993
01:12:31,768 --> 01:12:35,608
"You can miss a penalty or mess up a pass.
994
01:12:35,726 --> 01:12:36,886
"You're only human.
995
01:12:37,700 --> 01:12:43,567
"But I'll never forgive you
if you don't give me 100%."
996
01:12:46,607 --> 01:12:48,367
There are very few people who
communicate as well as he does.
997
01:12:48,486 --> 01:12:54,460
He makes his players believe
in what they have to do.
998
01:12:54,167 --> 01:12:56,967
And he convinces you that it will work.
999
01:12:57,870 --> 01:12:58,927
From the first minute,
1000
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:05,684
we all believed that a change was coming,
1001
01:13:05,806 --> 01:13:07,726
and that we could achieve big things.
1002
01:13:09,286 --> 01:13:12,446
Pep's team talks were exactly what I needed.
1003
01:13:14,285 --> 01:13:16,925
He was so passionate when he spoke.
1004
01:13:17,486 --> 01:13:18,806
I love a challenge.
1005
01:13:18,925 --> 01:13:23,245
I really like having
to work at something important.
1006
01:13:23,365 --> 01:13:26,645
So when they told me everything
was going to change at Barça,
1007
01:13:26,764 --> 01:13:29,404
that a new coach and new players were arriving,
1008
01:13:29,524 --> 01:13:31,724
I decided that was where I wanted to be.
1009
01:13:33,525 --> 01:13:34,725
I joined up with the team for pre-season,
1010
01:13:34,846 --> 01:13:36,406
and I needed to talk to Guardiola.
1011
01:13:36,524 --> 01:13:40,124
I told him I'd had offers to join other teams.
1012
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:43,485
Ten seconds is what it took.
1013
01:13:43,605 --> 01:13:47,285
He told me he had three or four line-ups in mind
1014
01:13:47,805 --> 01:13:50,850
and he couldn't imagine a
single one without me in it.
1015
01:13:50,206 --> 01:13:53,926
I told my brother, my agent and everyone else ...
1016
01:13:54,440 --> 01:13:55,804
not to listen to any other offers.
1017
01:13:56,844 --> 01:13:58,804
It was a good start in pre-season,
1018
01:13:58,925 --> 01:14:00,325
and the freshness about the team,
1019
01:14:00,446 --> 01:14:02,926
and a lot of hard work and well-prepared,
1020
01:14:03,450 --> 01:14:05,525
but the season itself
didn't start that well.
1021
01:14:13,764 --> 01:14:18,404
I actually saw that game with my father,
here at home.
1022
01:14:18,525 --> 01:14:20,245
And they lost to Numancia.
1023
01:14:20,364 --> 01:14:23,524
And immediately the attacks,
"He's not prepared for this."
1024
01:14:23,644 --> 01:14:26,324
My father said,
"It's one of the best games in years !"
1025
01:14:26,444 --> 01:14:30,724
You know, come on ! Give us a break !
It was not the best game.
1026
01:14:31,124 --> 01:14:34,364
Most of us, including me,
probably saw the game and said,
1027
01:14:34,484 --> 01:14:36,284
"Wow ! This doesn't smell good."
1028
01:14:36,724 --> 01:14:39,764
My father never looked at
the end product of 90 minutes.
1029
01:14:39,883 --> 01:14:42,963
My father looked at the end
product of many years to come.
1030
01:14:53,884 --> 01:14:56,400
It was really a big moment for myself,
1031
01:14:56,125 --> 01:15:00,205
and it was probably an even bigger
moment for the team and for the club ...
1032
01:15:00,323 --> 01:15:02,363
because we needed that victory.
1033
01:15:02,723 --> 01:15:05,300
If we'd drawn that game,
1034
01:15:05,123 --> 01:15:08,830
the question marks would have
started flying around.
1035
01:15:09,403 --> 01:15:12,723
And once we found that click,
once we got that first victory,
1036
01:15:14,364 --> 01:15:15,684
there was no stopping us.
1037
01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:39,363
Guardiola taught us so much,
but he also explained why we did things.
1038
01:15:39,483 --> 01:15:41,843
Most of us already understood the reasons ...
1039
01:15:41,964 --> 01:15:45,404
because we'd spent years at Barça,
1040
01:15:45,522 --> 01:15:48,602
but the guys from other clubs
noticed a huge change ...
1041
01:15:48,722 --> 01:15:50,522
when Guardiola took over.
1042
01:15:56,820 --> 01:16:00,962
He was the coach who
completely changed my outlook.
1043
01:16:02,242 --> 01:16:07,722
When I arrived here he showed
me an entirely new way ...
1044
01:16:07,843 --> 01:16:11,483
of seeing, playing,
and thinking about football.
1045
01:16:13,801 --> 01:16:17,761
It always reminded me of the
tactics of a basketball team,
1046
01:16:17,883 --> 01:16:21,830
when they have the ball and
start signaling to each other ...
1047
01:16:21,201 --> 01:16:23,441
that they're going to try a certain play.
1048
01:16:23,562 --> 01:16:24,962
It was a bit like that.
1049
01:16:27,723 --> 01:16:28,843
It was fantastic.
1050
01:16:28,961 --> 01:16:31,410
I was never allowed to kick the ball long,
1051
01:16:31,161 --> 01:16:35,121
and from the very first minute
I was involved in the tactics.
1052
01:16:35,242 --> 01:16:37,882
So I had to really concentrate all the time,
1053
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:44,841
which meant every match flew by really fast.
1054
01:16:44,961 --> 01:16:49,161
It was great because I'd been used to
a more direct style of football,
1055
01:16:49,281 --> 01:16:54,721
and sometimes all I'd be thinking
about was how boring the games were.
1056
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,360
I was in my element because Guardiola
and I shared the same philosophy.
1057
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:05,480
I'd think, don't clear it, pass it,
and Guardiola would say exactly that.
1058
01:17:05,599 --> 01:17:11,599
But my football philosophy
isn't the same as Abidal's or Henry's ...
1059
01:17:11,721 --> 01:17:14,481
or Hleb's or Yaya Toure's.
1060
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:20,320
They thought they were playing well,
and at other clubs they would have been.
1061
01:17:20,440 --> 01:17:23,120
Not at Barça.
It's a different kind of football.
1062
01:17:23,481 --> 01:17:26,601
Whoa, hang on ! That's new.
Let me assess it. Let me see it.
1063
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,120
Let me put my pride on the side, also.
1064
01:17:29,241 --> 01:17:33,641
Because that team had a lot of guys
that are all kings in their country.
1065
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,000
To tell a guy that used to do
maybe stuff or whatever,
1066
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,400
"No, stay there. Don't do that.
Make that run for him."
1067
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,199
"What ? What do you mean ?
I can play football too !"
1068
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,400
Pep's methods were different.
1069
01:17:46,521 --> 01:17:49,361
He was very hands-on, always intervening.
1070
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:52,560
I remember Abidal and a few
others coming to me and saying,
1071
01:17:52,679 --> 01:17:54,879
"This guy's changing everything !"
1072
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,520
I wasn't some 15-year-old kid.
1073
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,920
If you treat me with respect,
I'll do the same in return,
1074
01:18:03,390 --> 01:18:04,959
but if not, why should I respect you ?
1075
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,800
So I said to Pep,
"You can't speak to me like that."
1076
01:18:07,919 --> 01:18:10,839
I went to the president and told him,
"If this continues, I'm off."
1077
01:18:10,958 --> 01:18:15,118
Abi came from Lyon,
where he had another way of playing.
1078
01:18:16,519 --> 01:18:18,359
Look at the Abidal that arrived,
1079
01:18:19,278 --> 01:18:21,878
and look at the Abidal three years after.
1080
01:18:22,599 --> 01:18:25,719
Crosses, putting the ball down and passing it out.
1081
01:18:25,838 --> 01:18:27,918
Before he would have cleared it straight away.
1082
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:31,719
He wouldn't have been that
composed in the last third.
1083
01:18:33,878 --> 01:18:37,398
I think Pep's a football genius.
1084
01:18:37,519 --> 01:18:43,999
Sometimes he can be a bit controlling,
checking every last detail.
1085
01:18:44,117 --> 01:18:45,997
Some guys accept and respect that,
1086
01:18:46,118 --> 01:18:50,558
but there are others who say,
"You know where you can stick that."
1087
01:18:50,679 --> 01:18:52,839
I arrived here. I was 21.
1088
01:18:52,959 --> 01:18:56,999
And for me it was like love
and hate at the same time ...
1089
01:18:57,117 --> 01:19:01,597
because every minute of your life,
you have to be focused on football.
1090
01:19:01,718 --> 01:19:04,758
Twelve o'clock you have to go to bed to sleep.
1091
01:19:04,877 --> 01:19:09,370
You have to eat well.
He wants to control you in every way.
1092
01:19:09,158 --> 01:19:12,758
"Don't go and watch the tennis,
don't stay under the sun,
1093
01:19:12,878 --> 01:19:15,318
don't go to the Formula 1,
don't go to this.
1094
01:19:15,438 --> 01:19:16,638
We're here on a mission."
1095
01:19:16,758 --> 01:19:20,758
He wanted to know everything.
What we ate, what we ... Whatever !
1096
01:19:21,317 --> 01:19:22,917
He was so obsessed ...
1097
01:19:23,380 --> 01:19:29,158
that sometimes we had some
arguments between him and me.
1098
01:19:30,558 --> 01:19:32,238
Gerard is one of my best friends,
1099
01:19:32,317 --> 01:19:36,277
but I believe a manager has to be like that.
1100
01:19:36,398 --> 01:19:38,958
During training,
we always had to give 100%,
1101
01:19:39,770 --> 01:19:41,357
but I'd done that my entire career.
1102
01:19:41,477 --> 01:19:43,877
In my opinion,
that's how football should be.
1103
01:19:44,117 --> 01:19:46,370
On the one hand, he was very demanding.
1104
01:19:46,158 --> 01:19:50,438
We all had to have lunch
at the training ground every day.
1105
01:19:50,556 --> 01:19:52,596
He controlled our weight, what we ate.
1106
01:19:52,716 --> 01:19:55,996
He completely revolutionized the team's diet.
1107
01:19:56,118 --> 01:19:59,358
But on the other hand,
he gave us the night off before matches.
1108
01:20:00,276 --> 01:20:03,916
As a player, he always complained
that we spent too much time in hotels.
1109
01:20:05,277 --> 01:20:08,397
Initially, it seemed like a strange decision ...
1110
01:20:08,515 --> 01:20:10,555
because we weren't used to it,
1111
01:20:10,676 --> 01:20:14,516
but I think it was one of
the best decisions he made.
1112
01:20:14,637 --> 01:20:17,877
For me where Pep was,
at times, ahead of the game ...
1113
01:20:18,877 --> 01:20:21,917
The fact that, Champions League final,
1114
01:20:22,370 --> 01:20:26,997
in the hotel : family, kids, wives.
1115
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:28,956
My brother was in my room, midnight.
1116
01:20:29,597 --> 01:20:35,117
Girlfriend, friends, we're just talking,
I made a cup of coffee, chilling.
1117
01:20:35,236 --> 01:20:36,956
You play for any other team,
1118
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:42,316
"Don't do this, don't do that. No.
You have to concentrate."
1119
01:20:43,875 --> 01:20:48,555
We were lucky because Pep
had only recently retired,
1120
01:20:48,675 --> 01:20:53,155
and he understood what the life
of a top footballer was like.
1121
01:20:55,955 --> 01:20:58,715
We'd go to every training session
and match with a spring in our step ...
1122
01:20:58,835 --> 01:21:01,475
because he was treating us well.
He understood us.
1123
01:21:02,476 --> 01:21:06,556
Listen, I say it every
single time to my friends.
1124
01:21:07,156 --> 01:21:09,116
When the ref was blowing the whistle,
1125
01:21:10,835 --> 01:21:13,395
I used to look at the time and say,
"Already ?"
1126
01:21:13,515 --> 01:21:15,675
I didn't want the game to end.
1127
01:21:16,275 --> 01:21:20,195
I didn't want the game to end.
I was like, "I'm enjoying this."
1128
01:21:22,396 --> 01:21:24,796
We had a great teacher
and we were like sponges,
1129
01:21:24,916 --> 01:21:27,276
absorbing everything he taught us.
1130
01:21:27,393 --> 01:21:30,730
It makes no difference
how great the teacher is ...
1131
01:21:30,195 --> 01:21:34,875
if the students aren't capable
of understanding the message.
1132
01:21:34,994 --> 01:21:38,514
It all came together perfectly.
1133
01:21:44,350 --> 01:21:45,195
We won everything because we were the best team,
1134
01:21:45,316 --> 01:21:48,396
but we also had the luck of champions.
1135
01:21:48,514 --> 01:21:50,834
There were some epic moments that season.
1136
01:21:50,955 --> 01:21:55,995
Like when winning the Cup
hinged on one crucial moment ...
1137
01:21:56,114 --> 01:21:58,674
when Pinto saved a penalty against Mallorca.
1138
01:22:07,553 --> 01:22:08,673
We were losing 1-0,
1139
01:22:08,794 --> 01:22:14,354
and at the start of the second
half we conceded a penalty,
1140
01:22:14,473 --> 01:22:17,113
and Martín Cáceres was sent off.
1141
01:22:17,233 --> 01:22:24,233
So I thought I'd try and
unsettle the penalty taker.
1142
01:22:24,793 --> 01:22:27,233
I said, "Where are you
going to put the penalty ?"
1143
01:22:27,353 --> 01:22:31,673
He didn't answer, so I said,
"I'm going to dive that way."
1144
01:22:31,793 --> 01:22:35,873
And I got lucky,
I went the right way and made the save.
1145
01:22:36,434 --> 01:22:40,514
It gave us a massive boost.
1146
01:22:40,632 --> 01:22:42,672
And then Leo came on.
1147
01:22:42,793 --> 01:22:45,793
He got fouled,
their defender was sent off,
1148
01:22:45,912 --> 01:22:47,512
and he scored a wonder-goal.
1149
01:22:49,833 --> 01:22:53,193
In La Liga, if we lost at the Bernabéu,
they'd have cut the gap at the top.
1150
01:22:53,312 --> 01:22:56,112
But we won 6-2, which won us the league.
1151
01:22:56,232 --> 01:22:57,672
That was the key game.
1152
01:22:57,793 --> 01:23:00,273
They were four points behind us,
1153
01:23:00,392 --> 01:23:04,320
and if they beat us,
it was really tough to win the league.
1154
01:23:04,154 --> 01:23:07,194
But we played one of the
best games I've ever seen.
1155
01:23:16,351 --> 01:23:17,631
I really enjoyed it.
It was one of the best games ever.
1156
01:23:17,752 --> 01:23:20,352
When I die, I'll probably
be thinking about that night.
1157
01:23:21,793 --> 01:23:23,833
Puyol kissing the captain's
armband Messi scoring goals,
1158
01:23:23,952 --> 01:23:27,312
and Henry and Piqué. Oh, fantastic !
1159
01:23:28,312 --> 01:23:32,472
I obviously had to behave
appropriately but what a feeling !
1160
01:23:46,991 --> 01:23:52,871
It's weird because it's eight years ago.
1161
01:23:52,992 --> 01:23:57,192
I always watch it on television.
I've watched that goal a hundred times.
1162
01:23:57,310 --> 01:24:02,910
So I always remember this image.
I cannot remember what I felt.
1163
01:24:03,310 --> 01:24:06,751
Obviously,
it was like an unbelievable feeling ...
1164
01:24:06,871 --> 01:24:09,111
because it was a tremendous game.
1165
01:24:11,351 --> 01:24:14,511
But the 6-2 was extra special
because of our tactics.
1166
01:24:16,231 --> 01:24:18,951
That's when that fake nine whole thing started.
1167
01:24:22,832 --> 01:24:24,232
Pep called me the day before the game,
1168
01:24:24,351 --> 01:24:26,951
and told me to come down to the training ground.
1169
01:24:28,272 --> 01:24:30,232
He was keen to discuss a new position.
1170
01:24:30,349 --> 01:24:33,269
He'd been watching videos of games with Tito.
1171
01:24:33,391 --> 01:24:35,951
He said he wanted to try something different.
1172
01:24:36,710 --> 01:24:38,991
The red glasses are Barça,
the others are Real Madrid.
1173
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:40,630
Pep changed our system,
1174
01:24:40,751 --> 01:24:44,191
and told Henry to play between
the right-back and center-back,
1175
01:24:44,311 --> 01:24:46,791
with Eto'o between the
center-back and left-back.
1176
01:24:46,911 --> 01:24:50,671
Guardiola had analyzed the Madrid center-backs,
1177
01:24:50,791 --> 01:24:55,471
and noticed they never came out
to press the number nine.
1178
01:24:57,589 --> 01:25:00,629
Thanks to the false nine,
we outnumbered them in midfield ...
1179
01:25:00,749 --> 01:25:02,549
when Messi dropped back.
1180
01:25:02,670 --> 01:25:05,910
We always had an extra man.
1181
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:10,670
Pep said we'd outnumber them
throughout the entire game.
1182
01:25:10,749 --> 01:25:11,829
He was right.
1183
01:25:11,950 --> 01:25:13,590
We'd never played that way,
1184
01:25:15,189 --> 01:25:19,429
so Madrid hadn't studied the
possibility of us playing like that.
1185
01:25:19,710 --> 01:25:22,190
The center-backs didn't
know whether to mark me or not,
1186
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:26,750
which meant I had lots of
space when I dropped back.
1187
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:29,670
And as soon as the defenders
came out to close me down,
1188
01:25:29,790 --> 01:25:32,390
Eto'o and Henry made runs in behind.
1189
01:25:32,509 --> 01:25:34,909
That's what happened for Henry's first goal.
1190
01:25:35,290 --> 01:25:37,989
It was a great performance.
1191
01:25:38,109 --> 01:25:40,949
And it worked out because on
that goal that Leo gave me ...
1192
01:25:41,690 --> 01:25:42,509
that's exactly what happened.
1193
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:46,309
He was in a position where they didn't
know if they have to come and get him,
1194
01:25:46,428 --> 01:25:49,868
but I'm running in behind,
Sam was running on the other side,
1195
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:51,390
and it worked out.
1196
01:25:55,269 --> 01:25:59,629
It wasn't so robotic
because we also improvised.
1197
01:25:59,749 --> 01:26:01,829
Robots would be like,
1198
01:26:01,949 --> 01:26:05,549
"I. Go. Here. Now. I. Go. There."
1199
01:26:05,669 --> 01:26:08,469
No. There was always room to be creative.
1200
01:26:08,589 --> 01:26:15,469
But 60% of our match strategy
was set in stone before kick-off.
1201
01:26:16,588 --> 01:26:19,468
The other 40% was down to our improvisations.
1202
01:26:25,469 --> 01:26:26,909
In the Champions League,
1203
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:31,507
if it hadn't been for Iniesta's goal,
we were out.
1204
01:26:31,628 --> 01:26:33,308
A 92nd-minute goal.
1205
01:26:44,947 --> 01:26:49,547
I was sat with the captain Carles Puyol,
who was suspended.
1206
01:26:49,667 --> 01:26:51,670
Bam, Chelsea go 1-0 up.
1207
01:26:52,107 --> 01:26:53,347
And Puyol said to me,
1208
01:26:53,468 --> 01:26:58,108
"Don't worry, it's fine.
We'll score at the end."
1209
01:26:58,228 --> 01:27:04,428
There I was watching it and I'm like,
"Oh, my gosh ! We are gonna lose here."
1210
01:27:06,188 --> 01:27:07,988
The minutes kept ticking away,
and I didn't have the nerve to say,
1211
01:27:08,108 --> 01:27:11,788
"Look skipper, you were wrong !
This ain't gonna happen !"
1212
01:27:13,987 --> 01:27:16,627
I knew that if we could just hold on,
1213
01:27:16,747 --> 01:27:22,387
because we were under the cosh,
we'd definitely create one last chance.
1214
01:27:22,506 --> 01:27:25,866
And then little Andrés arrived to save the day.
1215
01:27:50,745 --> 01:27:55,345
Every time I watch that goal,
it sparks so many emotions
1216
01:27:55,466 --> 01:27:59,546
because it was such a significant moment for my club.
1217
01:28:00,346 --> 01:28:02,746
I'll never get tired of watching it.
1218
01:28:04,227 --> 01:28:05,947
It's because of moments like
this that we love football.
1219
01:28:08,865 --> 01:28:12,185
The only thing that beats it is sex.
1220
01:28:13,545 --> 01:28:14,865
That was the most important
goal in this whole story.
1221
01:28:14,986 --> 01:28:17,306
If we hadn't reached that final in Rome,
1222
01:28:18,250 --> 01:28:20,865
we probably wouldn't still
be talking about Pep's Barça.
1223
01:28:29,866 --> 01:28:31,226
I don't know how I played.
1224
01:28:35,585 --> 01:28:37,825
Iniesta ... I don't know how he played.
1225
01:28:38,305 --> 01:28:41,225
We were on a mission.
We didn't want to let that one go.
1226
01:28:43,425 --> 01:28:45,505
We had a chance to win the treble.
1227
01:28:45,625 --> 01:28:49,665
We'd just gone through the
drama of Stamford Bridge.
1228
01:28:51,650 --> 01:28:54,625
When we won the Champions League
against Arsenal in Paris,
1229
01:28:54,744 --> 01:28:56,464
I wasn't picked to start.
1230
01:28:56,584 --> 01:28:59,424
So I had to play this time.
1231
01:28:59,544 --> 01:29:04,344
No matter the risk or possible consequences.
1232
01:29:05,625 --> 01:29:07,145
I advised him not to shoot
powerfully from distance ...
1233
01:29:07,264 --> 01:29:13,504
because there was a big risk
he'd tear his muscle again.
1234
01:29:13,624 --> 01:29:15,104
Yaya played center back.
1235
01:29:15,225 --> 01:29:18,105
Sylvinho wasn't even playing
that season, he played.
1236
01:29:18,225 --> 01:29:19,625
Puyol played right back.
1237
01:29:19,743 --> 01:29:22,183
Some people were like,
"Hmm, people are missing.
1238
01:29:22,303 --> 01:29:24,623
Two guys are starting injured."
1239
01:29:26,145 --> 01:29:27,905
We knew we'd win the game,
because Pep told us we'd win.
1240
01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:29,665
Pep's a genius.
1241
01:29:29,783 --> 01:29:34,543
He'd tell us exactly what we
needed to do in order to win.
1242
01:29:34,664 --> 01:29:36,640
I hope he will never change ...
1243
01:29:36,185 --> 01:29:40,945
because he is, for me,
the future of the game.
1244
01:29:42,343 --> 01:29:43,743
Some matches looked impossible to win,
1245
01:29:43,864 --> 01:29:47,784
but after 20 minutes,
we'd have them wrapped up,
1246
01:29:48,384 --> 01:29:51,984
like the game against
Manchester United in Rome.
1247
01:29:52,423 --> 01:29:55,623
What manager would show you a video
1248
01:29:57,103 --> 01:29:58,663
five minutes before a Champions League final ?
1249
01:29:58,744 --> 01:29:59,824
Only him.
1250
01:29:59,943 --> 01:30:03,903
We don't know what was happening.
We go inside. There's a screen.
1251
01:30:04,743 --> 01:30:07,863
The boss asks us to stand in front of the screen,
1252
01:30:07,982 --> 01:30:10,102
and we are basically waiting.
1253
01:30:11,704 --> 01:30:13,904
Pep and Tito had made a spectacular video ...
1254
01:30:14,230 --> 01:30:15,823
featuring every single one of us.
1255
01:30:15,942 --> 01:30:19,220
With the music of Gladiator,
I think it was.
1256
01:30:19,144 --> 01:30:22,864
We see the whole journey to the final.
1257
01:30:24,103 --> 01:30:27,823
Sad moments, good moments, struggles.
1258
01:30:30,862 --> 01:30:34,782
After Iniesta's goal at Stamford Bridge
I got a text message from Pep ...
1259
01:30:34,903 --> 01:30:38,143
"I need your help to win
the Champions League."
1260
01:30:38,262 --> 01:30:43,342
The first feedback I received
was on the night before the game.
1261
01:30:43,462 --> 01:30:47,862
Pep gathered his technical staff
and showed them the video.
1262
01:30:49,304 --> 01:30:50,424
As soon as I saw it,
1263
01:30:50,542 --> 01:30:53,742
I honestly knew we'd win
the Champions League final.
1264
01:30:54,141 --> 01:30:59,461
It was so powerful.
It was ... It was so powerful
1265
01:30:59,582 --> 01:31:03,622
that I would say, also,
it was too powerful.
1266
01:31:05,183 --> 01:31:08,703
As a motivational tool,
the video was a total disaster.
1267
01:31:08,821 --> 01:31:11,421
In the opening ten minutes,
if it wasn't for Víctor ...
1268
01:31:16,502 --> 01:31:17,662
they'd have scored twice !
1269
01:31:19,421 --> 01:31:21,181
The boss was very sentimental.
1270
01:31:21,541 --> 01:31:24,741
I went to the dressing room
and was told I couldn't go in.
1271
01:31:24,823 --> 01:31:25,903
"What ?"
1272
01:31:26,220 --> 01:31:28,262
They said the boss was preparing something.
1273
01:31:28,381 --> 01:31:31,610
When we finally got in,
we had no time to prepare
1274
01:31:31,181 --> 01:31:32,381
and it was sweltering hot.
1275
01:31:32,502 --> 01:31:37,342
Then he showed us a video
that had all of us in tears.
1276
01:31:38,421 --> 01:31:41,221
We went onto the pitch
and Andrea Bocelli was singing,
1277
01:31:41,341 --> 01:31:43,141
which almost set us off again.
1278
01:31:43,262 --> 01:31:47,102
Manchester United must have
wondered what was wrong with us.
1279
01:31:47,220 --> 01:31:50,300
We were in pieces.
1280
01:31:50,422 --> 01:31:53,702
After the video, he said,
"Guys, at the end of the game,
1281
01:31:53,821 --> 01:31:56,581
"I want people to say
that we can play football.
1282
01:31:57,700 --> 01:31:58,940
"Have a good game."
1283
01:32:18,901 --> 01:32:22,141
We went into the game believing
we had a great chance of winning.
1284
01:32:22,260 --> 01:32:26,220
The first, might've been ten,
15 minutes, we started really well.
1285
01:32:26,341 --> 01:32:29,701
Probably out of nowhere,
I've headed one down in midfield,
1286
01:32:29,820 --> 01:32:32,900
Iniesta's picked it up,
made a run, and all of a sudden,
1287
01:32:33,190 --> 01:32:34,939
boom, Eto'o and you're one down.
1288
01:32:36,301 --> 01:32:38,541
Maybe from that moment on they just ...
1289
01:32:39,420 --> 01:32:42,140
That was what they needed.
Take a deep breath,
1290
01:32:42,260 --> 01:32:44,180
just get the ball and start passing it,
1291
01:32:44,300 --> 01:32:46,580
and gradually, sucking the life out of us.
1292
01:32:46,701 --> 01:32:51,141
You know when you play against
someone and you look in their eyes,
1293
01:32:51,260 --> 01:32:52,980
and it's over.
1294
01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:55,590
I think it was Wayne Rooney.
1295
01:32:55,180 --> 01:32:57,940
He was trying to get the ball
and we were keeping the ball,
1296
01:32:58,590 --> 01:33:02,259
and you could see the look.
He was defeated.
1297
01:33:02,380 --> 01:33:07,500
The quality they had, on the night,
was too good for us.
1298
01:33:08,179 --> 01:33:10,699
That was the one, for us,
that hurt the most.
1299
01:33:10,819 --> 01:33:13,459
It took me quite some time to get over that.
1300
01:33:15,180 --> 01:33:17,740
We knew it would be historic to
win the treble in our first year
1301
01:33:17,859 --> 01:33:21,190
playing our brand of football,
with the players we had.
1302
01:33:21,139 --> 01:33:25,139
And after Leo made it 2-0,
we knew the trophy was ours.
1303
01:33:26,658 --> 01:33:28,698
It was exactly how I'd visualized it.
1304
01:33:29,340 --> 01:33:33,200
The ball looped over the goalkeeper and in.
1305
01:33:33,139 --> 01:33:35,579
It was an unforgettable moment.
1306
01:33:55,259 --> 01:33:58,819
It was a statement of greatness
to begin your reign with a treble.
1307
01:33:58,938 --> 01:34:02,658
But the football reached its
high point at Wembley in 2011,
1308
01:34:02,778 --> 01:34:06,458
before which, Johan Cruyff said
that Guardiola should probably ...
1309
01:34:06,578 --> 01:34:08,298
walk away from the job ...
1310
01:34:08,418 --> 01:34:12,418
after three hugely intense
years and ten trophies lifted.
1311
01:34:12,539 --> 01:34:14,539
Everything had come at a cost.
1312
01:34:14,657 --> 01:34:17,177
A significant part of that cost
1313
01:34:17,297 --> 01:34:20,697
was that Pep was now getting on
far less well with his employers,
1314
01:34:20,818 --> 01:34:24,180
given that Joan Laporta had
ended his presidential reign,
1315
01:34:24,137 --> 01:34:28,217
and the new guy, Sandro Rosell,
had taken over.
1316
01:34:28,338 --> 01:34:33,180
In his final year,
Guardiola was frustrated and tired.
1317
01:34:33,138 --> 01:34:36,338
Given the burnout that we
saw in him in year four,
1318
01:34:36,458 --> 01:34:39,698
I'll bet you that Guardiola thinks
that Cruyff had it exactly right.
1319
01:34:40,978 --> 01:34:42,258
Pep had become very uptight.
1320
01:34:42,377 --> 01:34:45,497
He stressed about things
that hadn't bothered him before.
1321
01:34:45,618 --> 01:34:50,538
We played a pre-season game
at the Dallas Cowboys stadium,
1322
01:34:52,570 --> 01:34:55,697
and I overheard Guardiola
talking to Puyol and Piqué.
1323
01:34:56,137 --> 01:34:59,970
It was an unimportant pre-season friendly ...
1324
01:34:59,217 --> 01:35:04,170
but Guardiola raised his voice to them.
1325
01:35:05,176 --> 01:35:09,736
When I saw that, I said to Andrés Iniesta,
1326
01:35:09,857 --> 01:35:11,897
"He's leaving. This is his last year."
1327
01:35:14,970 --> 01:35:16,417
Even geniuses make mistakes
and Pep definitely got that wrong ...
1328
01:35:16,537 --> 01:35:20,377
because it felt like
we didn't matter to him anymore.
1329
01:35:21,857 --> 01:35:26,657
We didn't know what was going on with Pep,
1330
01:35:26,777 --> 01:35:31,170
which caused some uncertainty within the group.
1331
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:36,176
Pep usually renewed his
contract in February or March,
1332
01:35:36,295 --> 01:35:39,135
but February passed with no news.
1333
01:35:39,257 --> 01:35:43,570
Then March passed and we
still didn't know anything.
1334
01:35:44,656 --> 01:35:46,936
I really struggled to
understand what was happening.
1335
01:35:49,337 --> 01:35:53,977
And we had a few bust-ups about it.
1336
01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:58,150
That year, if Pep had told me
to jump from the Camp Nou stands,
1337
01:35:58,136 --> 01:36:02,376
I'd have sprinted down the steps.
I wouldn't have jumped !
1338
01:36:03,855 --> 01:36:06,135
When you work with the same
coaching staff for so long,
1339
01:36:06,255 --> 01:36:09,150
relationships change.
1340
01:36:09,134 --> 01:36:13,694
It's very difficult to maintain
the dynamic and to keep on winning.
1341
01:36:13,815 --> 01:36:17,455
We won the Copa del Rey
Final in his last game,
1342
01:36:17,575 --> 01:36:21,615
and it was the perfect end to his time with us.
1343
01:36:29,454 --> 01:36:33,414
That day everyone got to see
the team he had built again.
1344
01:36:34,374 --> 01:36:37,214
After 30 minutes, we were leading 3-0 ...
1345
01:36:37,333 --> 01:36:43,773
against the best Athletic Bilbao side in years.
1346
01:36:44,334 --> 01:36:47,814
Signing off by winning the
Copa del Rey in that style ...
1347
01:36:47,935 --> 01:36:51,655
on his last night in charge
should have been the perfect send-off,
1348
01:36:51,774 --> 01:36:55,974
but he walked away with a
distinctly bittersweet feeling.
1349
01:36:57,174 --> 01:37:01,494
Mostly because he felt ill-treated
and under-appreciated.
1350
01:37:09,894 --> 01:37:15,540
My lasting memory of that cup
final is a sense of sadness.
1351
01:37:15,173 --> 01:37:20,933
It was the end of something wonderful,
so it's normal to feel sad.
1352
01:37:21,494 --> 01:37:24,214
But there was something else that troubled me.
1353
01:37:24,334 --> 01:37:30,294
The attempts to demolish and
destroy everything we'd achieved.
1354
01:37:30,412 --> 01:37:34,920
I don't understand the motivation.
Things had gone well and we'd won !
1355
01:37:34,214 --> 01:37:37,534
Surely that's what you hold onto,
that's what you remember.
1356
01:37:37,653 --> 01:37:41,813
But no, they didn't care
about what we'd achieved.
1357
01:37:41,933 --> 01:37:46,373
All they did was focus on the negatives.
1358
01:37:47,940 --> 01:37:49,214
I think the club's got a problem.
1359
01:37:51,853 --> 01:37:53,293
Barça is a bit strange in that respect.
1360
01:37:53,412 --> 01:37:56,292
I've learned the most important
thing in life is to be grateful ...
1361
01:37:56,414 --> 01:38:00,334
to the people who make
a difference in your life.
1362
01:38:00,452 --> 01:38:04,452
After everything he'd done for the club,
1363
01:38:04,573 --> 01:38:07,853
Guardiola didn't get
the recognition he deserved.
1364
01:38:14,693 --> 01:38:16,333
Announcing his departure at a press conference,
1365
01:38:16,451 --> 01:38:19,851
and then immediately revealing
who would replace him ...
1366
01:38:19,973 --> 01:38:25,213
in front of the whole squad
and the board members ...
1367
01:38:25,972 --> 01:38:29,492
I don't think it was the right way
to say goodbye to the boss.
1368
01:38:31,813 --> 01:38:33,933
On the advice of the director
of football, Andoni Zubizarreta,
1369
01:38:34,772 --> 01:38:37,132
and after consulting the board,
1370
01:38:37,253 --> 01:38:40,653
I can announce that the next
Barça coach will be Tito Vilanova.
1371
01:38:43,851 --> 01:38:45,931
I think they should build a
statue of Pep at the Camp Nou.
1372
01:38:47,530 --> 01:38:49,733
In the president's box.
1373
01:38:49,853 --> 01:38:51,453
That's what I think anyway.
1374
01:38:53,132 --> 01:38:55,172
The best way to remember Guardiola's Barça
1375
01:38:55,292 --> 01:38:58,920
is to put on a DVD and
watch the matches we played
1376
01:38:58,212 --> 01:39:02,132
during his four seasons here as manager.
1377
01:39:11,930 --> 01:39:13,900
He invented a new way of playing.
1378
01:39:13,172 --> 01:39:15,372
He had a special group of players,
1379
01:39:15,492 --> 01:39:17,732
but he knew exactly what to do with them.
1380
01:39:18,371 --> 01:39:20,651
He followed the philosophy of his maestro,
1381
01:39:20,771 --> 01:39:22,771
the man who taught us all, Johan Cruyff.
1382
01:39:47,330 --> 01:39:49,100
It's a bit like the best cars.
1383
01:39:49,130 --> 01:39:52,500
Cruyff was the first great model, the Mark 1
1384
01:39:52,170 --> 01:39:53,730
and Pep is the Mark 2.
1385
01:39:56,330 --> 01:40:02,170
But I think Xavi will be in the same league
1386
01:40:02,290 --> 01:40:04,250
when he returns as coach.
1387
01:40:04,370 --> 01:40:09,970
When he comes back, he'll be the Mark 3.
1388
01:40:11,411 --> 01:40:15,691
In my father's mind,
he was always el listo de la clase,
1389
01:40:15,809 --> 01:40:19,890
the intelligent one of the class,
the clever guy.
1390
01:40:19,210 --> 01:40:21,490
The only problem will be
that when already now ...
1391
01:40:21,611 --> 01:40:25,510
everybody is pumping this up,
then the pressure's too high.
1392
01:40:25,409 --> 01:40:27,769
But if he follows his way,
little by little,
1393
01:40:27,889 --> 01:40:30,249
calm, like Pep did,
then you're ready for it.
1394
01:40:30,370 --> 01:40:33,290
And I hope Xavi one day will do that.
1395
01:40:34,650 --> 01:40:35,970
Barça's future needs to be in the hands ...
1396
01:40:36,890 --> 01:40:42,169
of someone with Xavi's talent and vision.
1397
01:40:45,209 --> 01:40:49,929
I've got no doubt that he'll
be back as a coach one day.
1398
01:40:50,490 --> 01:40:54,329
He deserves the chance ...
1399
01:40:54,450 --> 01:40:56,570
because of the type of player he was here.
1400
01:40:56,690 --> 01:40:58,850
He'll make an amazing manager.
1401
01:40:58,968 --> 01:41:02,368
As a player he saw the whole
picture from the pitch.
1402
01:41:02,489 --> 01:41:05,129
I'm sure from the side-lines,
he'll see it even clearer.
1403
01:41:05,249 --> 01:41:06,769
He'll be back one day.
1404
01:41:06,890 --> 01:41:12,330
I don't know when but he wants to come back.
1405
01:41:12,449 --> 01:41:17,449
And he has the same football philosophy as Pep.
1406
01:41:19,649 --> 01:41:21,209
The world is watching us because
they see we're different.
1407
01:41:21,328 --> 01:41:23,928
And they're right, we are.
1408
01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:26,728
But now we have a huge responsibility
1409
01:41:26,847 --> 01:41:29,927
to ensure that all of this continues to grow.
1410
01:41:33,890 --> 01:41:36,449
The one thing that has never changed
1411
01:41:36,567 --> 01:41:41,327
in all my years here is
the way we play football.
1412
01:41:41,968 --> 01:41:47,328
Players come and go,
but the philosophy never changes.
1413
01:41:49,168 --> 01:41:50,648
We believe in this philosophy,
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which is improved every year
and by each Barça manager.
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But the day things start to go wrong,
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and let's hope that isn't
for another 200 years,
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but if it happens,
we must never consider ...
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changing our playing style.
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Our unique philosophy
should never change. Never.
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This documentary can't end ...
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without asking you about your
memories of those four years.
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When I think about that time it fills
me with nostalgia and happiness.
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In my opinion, during those four years,
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all the stars aligned at the perfect moment.
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The fundamental reason for the success
was the immense talent of those players.
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It's them who have to perform.
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I like to use golf as an example,
because as managers we're caddies.
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We hand the club to the player,
but they get the ball on the green,
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and put it in the hole.
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Everyone played their part
and everyone knew their role.
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They all knew Messi was the best
and no one wanted to take his crown.
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The home-grown players
had very important roles.
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The foreign players played their part too.
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It all unfolded naturally
without having to tell players,
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"You have to do this
or you have to do that."
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The roles within the group were shared out,
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and if anyone didn't like it, they left.
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That was how we built something special
and kept it going for so long.
1439
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I think we provoked an emotional reaction.
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When you remember titles,
really they're just numbers
1441
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and nothing more.
1442
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But there were a lot of people
who really loved watching us play.
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01:44:58,284 --> 01:44:59,764
We all remember the two
Champions League finals,
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especially the second one.
1445
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For around 20-25 minutes,
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from the 46th minute until our third,
we were tremendous.
1447
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That was a perfect illustration
of how we wanted them to play.
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We were a young group of coaches ...
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trying to convince a team of unique players ...
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to do something different and
it worked well for four years.
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01:45:33,724 --> 01:45:36,164
People become managers for
all kinds of different reasons.
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My motivation is tactics.
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That's why I became a coach,
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to dissect the game and find solutions.
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01:45:44,803 --> 01:45:45,963
The basic concept,
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which Johan Cruyff injected into our veins ...
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01:45:53,642 --> 01:45:56,202
many years ago,
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was that doing the simple things
well gave you a 75% chance of winning.
1459
01:46:00,402 --> 01:46:03,162
And one of the simplest
things is passing the ball.
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After that, things get more complicated.
1461
01:46:05,602 --> 01:46:07,962
But the pass is what unites the group.
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01:46:08,761 --> 01:46:13,281
The ball is moved around the pitch
from one player to another.
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01:46:13,402 --> 01:46:18,200
Everyone participates in the
game plan by making that pass.
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That's what we worked on from day one.
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I'm often asked if it was
the greatest team ever ...
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or one of the greatest.
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01:46:40,842 --> 01:46:45,442
And it's a question that doesn't have an answer.
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01:46:45,561 --> 01:46:49,921
It's like a new book that's published,
is it good or not ?
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Or a new film that premieres,
is it any good ?
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We'll know the answer in 25 years.
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It depends if people are still talking about us.
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If after 25 years we're still
taking about a book, it's good.
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If we're still watching a film
in 25 years time, it must be good.
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The same will happen with our team.
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But were we better than Sacchi's Milan
or Pelé's Brazil, or Johan's Ajax ?
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01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:17,400
Everyone will have their opinion,
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which they'll defend passionately.
1478
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,720
I would tell you that my team was brilliant,
1479
01:47:23,841 --> 01:47:26,801
but Johan would argue that his team was better.
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01:47:26,921 --> 01:47:30,361
And Arrigo Sacchi would say
the same about his Milan side.
1481
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:31,799
And we'd all be in the right.
1482
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,360
But if they remember us in 25 years time,
1483
01:47:34,480 --> 01:47:36,600
they won't talk about the titles we won,
1484
01:47:36,721 --> 01:47:38,201
they'll talk about how we played.
1485
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:41,880
If they remember us,
it's because they enjoyed watching us.
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01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:46,480
But that's the big mystery.
Will we be remembered or not ?
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