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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,539 --> 00:00:08,314 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:08,374 --> 00:00:12,254 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:12,312 --> 00:00:14,121 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:14,180 --> 00:00:16,956 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:17,016 --> 00:00:18,620 These are their stories. 6 00:00:22,822 --> 00:00:24,096 Why you eat that crap? 7 00:00:24,157 --> 00:00:25,227 Tastes good. 8 00:00:25,291 --> 00:00:26,634 What's wrong with our pizza? 9 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:29,435 Not for breakfast. The tomato gives me that acid reflux. 10 00:00:29,495 --> 00:00:32,203 Don't you ever let your mother hear you say that. 11 00:00:38,905 --> 00:00:40,009 Whoa, Pop! 12 00:00:40,073 --> 00:00:41,211 What? 13 00:00:43,609 --> 00:00:45,111 Oh, dear God. 14 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:49,953 White male, late teens, early 20s. 15 00:00:50,016 --> 00:00:52,087 Stab wound to the chest, pretty deep. 16 00:00:52,151 --> 00:00:53,221 Time of death? 17 00:00:53,286 --> 00:00:57,200 From lividity and body temp, my guess'd be 2:00 to 5:00 this morning. 18 00:00:57,256 --> 00:00:58,758 Any luck with the murder weapon? 19 00:00:58,825 --> 00:01:00,236 ESU's still lookin'. 20 00:01:00,293 --> 00:01:03,035 Well, the wallet's gone. No cash, no ID. 21 00:01:04,564 --> 00:01:06,840 Check out this blood trail. 22 00:01:06,899 --> 00:01:10,108 We also found traces of blood on the sidewalk out front. 23 00:01:10,169 --> 00:01:12,308 So, the guy gets jumped out there... 24 00:01:12,372 --> 00:01:15,979 Yeah, and dragged back here to rest in peace. Who found the body? 25 00:01:16,042 --> 00:01:17,885 Pizza guys, opening for the day. 26 00:01:17,944 --> 00:01:19,946 So, maybe he came by for a slice. 27 00:01:20,013 --> 00:01:21,822 Well, he got one. 28 00:02:14,767 --> 00:02:15,871 I don't remember him comin' in here, 29 00:02:15,935 --> 00:02:17,380 but we do a pretty good business at night. 30 00:02:17,437 --> 00:02:18,677 How late were you open? 31 00:02:18,738 --> 00:02:23,153 The last customers trickled in about 1:45. We locked up by 2:30. 32 00:02:23,209 --> 00:02:25,348 Anybody see or hear anything strange? 33 00:02:25,411 --> 00:02:26,890 Nothing strange but the customers. 34 00:02:26,946 --> 00:02:28,152 What do you mean? At that hour? 35 00:02:28,214 --> 00:02:30,490 Mostly hookers and hustlers comin' east off the river. 36 00:02:30,783 --> 00:02:32,319 Kills me. What? 37 00:02:32,485 --> 00:02:34,431 SAL SR.: That These people come in here all strung out. 38 00:02:34,487 --> 00:02:36,694 Neighborhood's had two muggings in the past week. 39 00:02:36,756 --> 00:02:38,565 Some of these guys are wearin' skirts and heels. 40 00:02:38,624 --> 00:02:40,968 I mean, they even use the ladies' room. 41 00:02:42,028 --> 00:02:44,702 So, we're looking for a killer transvestite? 42 00:02:44,764 --> 00:02:46,266 Yeah, with a taste for sausage. 43 00:02:46,332 --> 00:02:49,745 We talked to the RIP guys. There's no word on any dangerous transvestite. 44 00:02:49,802 --> 00:02:52,373 But we did get the fives on the two recent muggings. 45 00:02:52,438 --> 00:02:53,644 Yeah, one of the perps was picked up 46 00:02:53,706 --> 00:02:57,279 on a turnstile jump a few days ago. He's in Rikers. 47 00:02:57,343 --> 00:02:59,755 Well, that's a convincing alibi. And the other one? 48 00:02:59,812 --> 00:03:01,758 Purse snatcher, still at large. 49 00:03:01,814 --> 00:03:04,158 The beat cops are canvassing with his description. 50 00:03:04,217 --> 00:03:06,288 Well, what about our victim? Does he have a name yet? 51 00:03:06,352 --> 00:03:07,592 Computers have been down all morning. 52 00:03:07,653 --> 00:03:09,360 Cordova's just running the prints now. 53 00:03:09,422 --> 00:03:11,868 Well, tell me we got something from the crime scene. 54 00:03:11,924 --> 00:03:14,427 Well, according to the Medical Examiner, 55 00:03:14,494 --> 00:03:18,840 John Doe was killed with a 6-inch blade, curved and very sharp. 56 00:03:18,898 --> 00:03:21,504 A hunting knife or some kind of tool, maybe. 57 00:03:22,034 --> 00:03:23,536 Got a hit off of BCI. 58 00:03:23,603 --> 00:03:25,139 Victim's name is Andrew Hatcher, 59 00:03:25,204 --> 00:03:26,706 but there's no listing of him in the city. 60 00:03:26,772 --> 00:03:28,012 BRISCOE: What was the collar for? 61 00:03:28,074 --> 00:03:29,519 It was sealed two years back. 62 00:03:29,909 --> 00:03:32,014 Well, it could be because he was a YO. 63 00:03:32,078 --> 00:03:35,753 There's just a name, date and location of arrest. Washington Square Park. 64 00:03:35,815 --> 00:03:37,385 Eighth Precinct. 65 00:03:37,717 --> 00:03:39,628 Find out who ran the conditions car that day. 66 00:03:41,687 --> 00:03:43,894 Mostly we'd break up gangs of kids gettin' high. 67 00:03:43,956 --> 00:03:46,061 They got rowdy, we'd toss 'em in the truck. 68 00:03:46,125 --> 00:03:48,401 In my day we called it The Goon Squad. 69 00:03:48,461 --> 00:03:49,940 You recognize this kid? 70 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:51,708 Mmm. 71 00:03:52,598 --> 00:03:54,908 Sorry. Well, you made the collar. 72 00:03:55,668 --> 00:03:56,976 Your remember anything about it? 73 00:03:57,036 --> 00:04:00,210 Andrew Hatcher, October 12th, 2000. 74 00:04:00,907 --> 00:04:02,215 We know it was a while back, 75 00:04:02,275 --> 00:04:04,881 but we were hopin' maybe this kid made an impression. 76 00:04:05,611 --> 00:04:09,081 No, not him, the date. October 12th, Columbus Day. 77 00:04:09,148 --> 00:04:10,320 Is that a big day for you? 78 00:04:10,616 --> 00:04:12,892 Student protest at Stuyvesant College. 79 00:04:12,952 --> 00:04:16,024 Five hundred years of American imperialism or some crap. 80 00:04:16,088 --> 00:04:17,465 There's always a few who take it too far. 81 00:04:17,523 --> 00:04:19,298 You know, throw a bottle or somethin'. 82 00:04:19,358 --> 00:04:21,599 So, you sure the protest was that year? 83 00:04:21,661 --> 00:04:23,937 Yeah, it happens every year Except for this one, of course. 84 00:04:23,996 --> 00:04:25,634 And these were all college kids? 85 00:04:25,698 --> 00:04:28,076 Who else is gonna protest a holiday? 86 00:04:31,704 --> 00:04:34,548 Here we go. Andrew Hatcher, currently a senior. 87 00:04:34,607 --> 00:04:36,245 What about an address? 88 00:04:36,309 --> 00:04:40,052 427, Lakeview Drive, Amherst, Massachusetts. 89 00:04:40,112 --> 00:04:41,318 That must be the parents. 90 00:04:41,380 --> 00:04:42,757 Or it's a hell of a commute. 91 00:04:42,815 --> 00:04:44,488 No New York address? 92 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:46,257 These kids move around so much. 93 00:04:47,153 --> 00:04:50,293 All I have for Hatcher is a PO box at the student union. 94 00:04:50,890 --> 00:04:52,767 What about a class schedule? 95 00:04:55,494 --> 00:04:59,442 Journalism 415. Sociology 305, Group Dynamics. 96 00:04:59,498 --> 00:05:02,240 History 230, Economics and Social Injustice. 97 00:05:02,301 --> 00:05:04,303 Earth Science 307. Environmental Ethics. 98 00:05:04,370 --> 00:05:06,748 GREEN: How about a class this afternoon? 99 00:05:07,707 --> 00:05:09,653 Earth Science lecture's in half an hour. 100 00:05:09,709 --> 00:05:11,882 You want to check that out? See if anybody knows where he lives? 101 00:05:11,944 --> 00:05:13,617 If I can sit in the back. 102 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:15,250 Thank you. 103 00:05:15,448 --> 00:05:18,054 NORTON: Andy's been my roommate for the past six months. 104 00:05:18,117 --> 00:05:21,758 Yeah, we talked to a student who told us Andy had Journalism class 105 00:05:21,821 --> 00:05:25,030 yesterday until 3:00. Did you see him after that? 106 00:05:25,091 --> 00:05:28,971 The last time I saw Andy was around 5:00 p.m. He was comin', I was goin'. 107 00:05:29,028 --> 00:05:31,065 We talked about seein' this band on Saturday. 108 00:05:31,130 --> 00:05:33,940 We're just tryin' to figure out where he might've gone last night. 109 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,071 He didn't mention anything to me. 110 00:05:36,702 --> 00:05:38,682 Man, none of this seems real. 111 00:05:39,372 --> 00:05:40,612 Is this Andy's stuff? 112 00:05:40,673 --> 00:05:43,119 We were gonna switch rooms at the end of the semester. 113 00:05:43,175 --> 00:05:44,210 I'd like to take a look around, 114 00:05:44,277 --> 00:05:46,086 see if he left a date book or messages or something. 115 00:05:46,145 --> 00:05:47,715 Sure, go ahead. 116 00:05:47,780 --> 00:05:50,192 We found him in Chelsea near 14th Street. 117 00:05:50,249 --> 00:05:52,456 You know of any places he liked to hang out around there? 118 00:05:52,518 --> 00:05:53,895 Uh, any bars maybe. 119 00:05:53,953 --> 00:05:55,762 Andy didn't drink on week nights. 120 00:05:55,821 --> 00:05:57,926 It's more likely he was at the library. 121 00:05:57,990 --> 00:05:59,560 Lennie. 122 00:06:02,495 --> 00:06:04,065 Is this yours or Andy's? 123 00:06:04,697 --> 00:06:08,110 Hey, we're homicide, not vice. Don't worry about it. 124 00:06:08,167 --> 00:06:09,510 But you gotta help us out. 125 00:06:09,568 --> 00:06:12,674 Now, is this recreational or did he sell, or what? 126 00:06:13,072 --> 00:06:14,813 We were just buying dime bags for ourselves. 127 00:06:14,874 --> 00:06:16,581 GREEN: Buying them from where? 128 00:06:16,876 --> 00:06:19,652 Sometimes 14th near where you said. 129 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:21,453 But I swear, it was always just dimes. (CELL PHONE RINGING) 130 00:06:23,115 --> 00:06:25,857 Yeah, Green. Did you buy from anybody in particular? 131 00:06:25,918 --> 00:06:28,524 You just walk up and down the street and someone shows up. 132 00:06:28,587 --> 00:06:30,464 It's like a different dealer every time. 133 00:06:30,990 --> 00:06:33,231 Lennie, the parents are comin' in. 134 00:06:33,626 --> 00:06:35,697 We're gonna have to take this with us. 135 00:06:37,897 --> 00:06:41,208 I should've called the police. I knew something was wrong. 136 00:06:41,867 --> 00:06:44,871 GREEN: Mrs. Hatcher, can you tell us what happened? 137 00:06:45,671 --> 00:06:49,483 Andy called me early this morning but we got cut off. 138 00:06:49,542 --> 00:06:52,182 I kept calling back, but there was no answer. 139 00:06:52,745 --> 00:06:55,157 What time did your son call, Mrs. Hatcher? 140 00:06:55,414 --> 00:06:57,519 A little after 9:00 a.m. 141 00:06:57,583 --> 00:07:00,621 I picked up the phone, but there was no one there. 142 00:07:00,686 --> 00:07:02,188 What made you think it was him? 143 00:07:02,254 --> 00:07:05,565 We have caller ID. The number was Andy's cell phone. 144 00:07:06,425 --> 00:07:10,202 We didn't find a cell phone with your son's belongings. 145 00:07:10,262 --> 00:07:12,640 Andy never went anywhere without that phone. 146 00:07:12,698 --> 00:07:15,736 This had already happened by 5:00 a.m., 147 00:07:15,801 --> 00:07:17,678 so it wasn't Andy that called you. 148 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:19,777 Then who was it? 149 00:07:23,509 --> 00:07:25,511 Hey, according to the cell phone company, 150 00:07:25,578 --> 00:07:28,115 there's no way to trace the phone's location with that model. 151 00:07:28,180 --> 00:07:29,181 You get something for me? 152 00:07:29,248 --> 00:07:31,421 They didn't have any tofu. What about the LUDs? 153 00:07:31,484 --> 00:07:33,623 Well, we got a few noteworthy phone calls this morning. 154 00:07:33,686 --> 00:07:37,964 First off, we got 9:04 a.m., 508 area code, four seconds long. 155 00:07:38,023 --> 00:07:39,161 The call to Mom. 156 00:07:39,225 --> 00:07:41,034 Exactly. The guy probably hit redial by mistake. 157 00:07:41,093 --> 00:07:43,630 But check this out 9:57 a.m. 158 00:07:43,696 --> 00:07:45,232 Almost an hour later. Uh-huh. 159 00:07:45,297 --> 00:07:49,404 212 area code. Call lasted four minutes, 36 seconds. 160 00:07:49,468 --> 00:07:51,345 Pretty talkative for a dead guy. Exactly. 161 00:07:51,404 --> 00:07:52,906 You want half? Mmm-mmm. 162 00:07:58,878 --> 00:08:00,221 ZWYBEL: Nobody called here this morning. 163 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:02,190 I was at work by 8:00, and my daughter was in school. 164 00:08:02,248 --> 00:08:04,250 Phone records don't lie, Mr. Zwybel. 165 00:08:04,316 --> 00:08:06,091 Well, maybe it was a wrong number or something. 166 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:09,725 The call lasted almost five minutes. Somebody was here. 167 00:08:09,789 --> 00:08:10,995 Katie! 168 00:08:11,457 --> 00:08:12,902 Were you in school today? 169 00:08:13,592 --> 00:08:15,265 Yeah. You tellin' me the truth? 170 00:08:15,327 --> 00:08:16,431 Yeah. 171 00:08:16,495 --> 00:08:19,237 Well, then who was here talkin' on the phone this morning? 172 00:08:24,770 --> 00:08:26,249 Okay, I went in late. 173 00:08:26,605 --> 00:08:29,381 I only missed gym. I swear. 174 00:08:29,575 --> 00:08:31,418 We'll talk about this later. 175 00:08:31,477 --> 00:08:33,286 GREEN: Who called you, Katie? 176 00:08:35,848 --> 00:08:37,054 Bobby. 177 00:08:37,116 --> 00:08:39,357 Bobby Foster. Kid from the neighborhood. 178 00:08:39,418 --> 00:08:40,897 BRISCOE: What'd he say to you? 179 00:08:42,521 --> 00:08:44,592 Just that he got a new cell this morning. 180 00:08:44,657 --> 00:08:46,398 Do you know where we can find him? 181 00:08:46,459 --> 00:08:50,168 Yeah, he plays ball every day after school at the projects. 182 00:08:52,765 --> 00:08:54,608 Yo, Iverson. We need to talk. 183 00:08:54,667 --> 00:08:55,702 Yo, but the game... 184 00:08:55,768 --> 00:08:57,008 Consider yourself benched. 185 00:08:57,069 --> 00:08:59,242 You made a phone call to your friend Katie this morning? 186 00:08:59,305 --> 00:09:00,477 Yeah, but I didn't do anything wrong. 187 00:09:00,539 --> 00:09:01,984 Well, then you got nothin' to worry about. 188 00:09:02,041 --> 00:09:03,520 Just tell us where you got the phone. 189 00:09:03,576 --> 00:09:04,919 I bought it. 190 00:09:04,977 --> 00:09:06,354 You bought it? From who? 191 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:08,756 This isn't a game, Bobby. 192 00:09:08,814 --> 00:09:10,851 The kid who owned that phone is dead. 193 00:09:10,916 --> 00:09:13,157 What? Jimmy killed some dude? 194 00:09:13,219 --> 00:09:14,721 GREEN: Jimmy who? 195 00:09:15,888 --> 00:09:17,697 I don't know. He's this hustler. 196 00:09:17,756 --> 00:09:19,861 He works on the corner near my school. 197 00:09:19,925 --> 00:09:21,336 He sold me the phone for 5 bucks. 198 00:09:21,393 --> 00:09:22,770 Where is it? 199 00:09:23,195 --> 00:09:25,232 My friend Ron told me I was a fool. 200 00:09:25,297 --> 00:09:27,140 He said I'd probably get busted for it. 201 00:09:28,067 --> 00:09:30,047 So, I threw it under a subway after I called Katie. 202 00:09:30,102 --> 00:09:31,911 Where can we find this Jimmy? 203 00:09:32,371 --> 00:09:36,376 He hangs out on 12th. Wears a red leather jacket. You can't miss him. 204 00:09:42,815 --> 00:09:44,226 What do you want? 205 00:09:44,283 --> 00:09:45,853 What you sellin', Jimmy? 206 00:09:45,918 --> 00:09:47,158 You lookin' for a date, cop? 207 00:09:47,419 --> 00:09:49,660 How much for just a feel? 208 00:09:50,256 --> 00:09:52,998 Oh, I guess you take it for free, man. 209 00:09:53,526 --> 00:09:56,700 Oh, this looks like stolen property, Ed. 210 00:09:58,230 --> 00:10:00,608 "To Andy. Love, Mom and Dad." 211 00:10:00,933 --> 00:10:05,905 Just once I'd like to make one of you bastards break the news to the parents. 212 00:10:12,111 --> 00:10:13,988 His name's Andrew Hatcher. 213 00:10:14,046 --> 00:10:15,992 You tried to sell him some weed, right? 214 00:10:16,048 --> 00:10:17,721 Maybe he didn't like the size of your bags. 215 00:10:17,783 --> 00:10:20,764 You two get into an argument, the next thing know, it was you or him. 216 00:10:20,819 --> 00:10:23,766 The D.A. might even reduce the charge to manslaughter, Jimmy, 217 00:10:23,822 --> 00:10:25,267 if that's what happened. 218 00:10:25,324 --> 00:10:26,359 I don't sell drugs. 219 00:10:26,425 --> 00:10:28,132 No, you just use 'em, right? 220 00:10:28,193 --> 00:10:29,729 I got it under control. 221 00:10:29,795 --> 00:10:31,934 Well, if it wasn't drugs, then what were you doin' with Andy? 222 00:10:31,997 --> 00:10:33,738 Nothin' man. I've never seen this kid before. 223 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:36,370 Then how'd you wind up with his cell phone? 224 00:10:36,769 --> 00:10:38,305 You're not gonna believe me, so what's the point? 225 00:10:38,370 --> 00:10:41,317 The point is you got nothin' to lose. 226 00:10:43,742 --> 00:10:45,449 Found it in a dumpster this morning. 227 00:10:45,511 --> 00:10:48,890 (CHUCKLES) You're right. I don't believe you. 228 00:10:48,948 --> 00:10:50,689 It's where I was hidin' my stash. 229 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:52,288 There was other stuff in there, too. 230 00:10:52,351 --> 00:10:54,422 What kind of stuff? A wallet. 231 00:10:54,853 --> 00:10:55,923 What'd you do with it? 232 00:10:56,021 --> 00:10:57,398 I left it there. It was all messed up. 233 00:10:57,456 --> 00:10:58,764 What do you mean, messed up? 234 00:10:58,824 --> 00:11:01,771 Blood on it. Man, I didn't want to touch that. Got diseases. 235 00:11:01,827 --> 00:11:03,898 This from a guy who keeps his stuff in a dumpster. 236 00:11:03,963 --> 00:11:05,601 GREEN: Is this dumpster still there? 237 00:11:06,565 --> 00:11:07,942 They only move it once a week. 238 00:11:09,235 --> 00:11:10,612 Let's go. 239 00:11:12,438 --> 00:11:14,111 You sure this is the right one? 240 00:11:14,173 --> 00:11:15,481 Yeah. 241 00:11:15,541 --> 00:11:16,815 Look at this. 242 00:11:17,710 --> 00:11:19,189 It's a portable pharmacy. 243 00:11:19,244 --> 00:11:24,250 And a bloody wallet belonging to one Andrew Hatcher. 244 00:11:25,584 --> 00:11:27,063 What's the matter, Jimmy? 245 00:11:27,119 --> 00:11:29,099 Didn't even want to take the 8 bucks cash? 246 00:11:29,154 --> 00:11:30,827 Look, I told you, I didn't touch it. 247 00:11:31,256 --> 00:11:32,963 Nothin' else in here but sand. 248 00:11:33,025 --> 00:11:34,060 Can I go now? 249 00:11:34,126 --> 00:11:36,470 Oh, you're not off the hook that easy, punk. 250 00:11:36,528 --> 00:11:39,202 Cops are searchin' the whole neighborhood now for the murder weapon. 251 00:11:39,264 --> 00:11:41,437 Once they find it, they're gonna check it for your prints. 252 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:43,446 Why would I show you all this if I killed that kid? 253 00:11:43,502 --> 00:11:45,675 Because that stuff doesn't even point the finger at you. 254 00:11:45,738 --> 00:11:48,582 Detectives. We found something. 255 00:11:52,478 --> 00:11:54,219 Don't need a lab test to tell us that's blood. 256 00:11:54,279 --> 00:11:55,758 With any luck it's the victim's. 257 00:11:55,814 --> 00:11:58,055 Victim's blood, killer's shirt. This yours? 258 00:11:58,117 --> 00:11:59,425 No, that ain't mine. 259 00:11:59,485 --> 00:12:00,862 Can you run this over to the lab? 260 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:02,796 Yeah, we're gonna need a sample from your suspect. 261 00:12:02,855 --> 00:12:04,425 Test for a match on the shirt. 262 00:12:04,490 --> 00:12:06,163 Hair, fibers, blood, everything. 263 00:12:06,225 --> 00:12:09,297 Get ready to open a vein, Jimmy if you got any left. 264 00:12:10,829 --> 00:12:12,831 After excluding a few leaves and some rain water, 265 00:12:12,898 --> 00:12:14,775 I ran serology and fiber analysis tests 266 00:12:14,833 --> 00:12:16,506 on every square centimeter of the shirt. 267 00:12:16,568 --> 00:12:18,912 Your victim's blood was all over it. Thanks. 268 00:12:18,971 --> 00:12:20,575 But no match for our suspect? 269 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:22,516 I found a few hair shafts, but they were all gray, 270 00:12:22,574 --> 00:12:24,315 not consistent with the suspect. 271 00:12:24,877 --> 00:12:26,015 I guess Jimmy caught a break. 272 00:12:26,078 --> 00:12:27,614 But I did find something significant. 273 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,625 Something significant about the perp, I hope. 274 00:12:29,682 --> 00:12:31,787 Not unless your killer's got hooves. 275 00:12:32,017 --> 00:12:34,759 When I first ran the immunologic test on the samples, 276 00:12:34,820 --> 00:12:37,198 I got a non-human antibody response. 277 00:12:37,256 --> 00:12:39,167 I'm thinking you get that a lot. 278 00:12:39,458 --> 00:12:41,597 Well, take a look at this. 279 00:12:43,228 --> 00:12:45,765 Uh, these are magnified microscopic photos 280 00:12:45,831 --> 00:12:48,437 of actual red blood cells taken from the samples. 281 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:51,037 Do you see the large area of central pallor in this one? 282 00:12:51,103 --> 00:12:53,879 I see a white spot surrounded by a red spot. 283 00:12:53,939 --> 00:12:55,816 That's a normal human red blood cell. 284 00:12:55,874 --> 00:12:57,182 So, what's the other one? 285 00:12:58,210 --> 00:12:59,655 Bovine. 286 00:13:02,815 --> 00:13:06,763 As in cow? Does that mean our killer had steak for dinner? 287 00:13:06,819 --> 00:13:08,992 The lab tech says the blood cells were still intact, 288 00:13:09,054 --> 00:13:10,795 meaning that the blood was uncooked. 289 00:13:10,856 --> 00:13:14,599 So, the killer handled raw beef. A butcher? 290 00:13:14,660 --> 00:13:18,631 The shirt was found in a sewer at Washington and Gansevoort Streets. 291 00:13:18,697 --> 00:13:21,177 That's right in the heart of the Meatpacking District. 292 00:13:21,233 --> 00:13:22,337 Well, that makes sense. 293 00:13:22,401 --> 00:13:24,381 Besides prostitutes and junkies, 294 00:13:24,436 --> 00:13:28,043 meatpackers would be the only activity in the area at 4:00 a.m. 295 00:13:28,107 --> 00:13:30,485 Hey, do you remember the M.E.'s profile of the murder weapon? 296 00:13:30,542 --> 00:13:32,317 A 6-inch curved blade. 297 00:13:32,377 --> 00:13:34,755 Uh-huh. We did some checking. 298 00:13:35,147 --> 00:13:37,093 It's consistent with a butcher's boning knife. 299 00:13:37,583 --> 00:13:40,587 All right, show Hatcher's photo around the meat plants. 300 00:13:44,223 --> 00:13:47,067 Put those sides in the walk-in for now. 301 00:13:47,126 --> 00:13:48,434 Are you the manager? 302 00:13:48,494 --> 00:13:50,804 I'm the owner, Arthur King. Why? 303 00:13:50,863 --> 00:13:54,902 Any of you guys seen this man around here? His name's Andrew Hatcher. 304 00:13:55,801 --> 00:13:57,075 Don't recognize him. 305 00:13:57,569 --> 00:13:58,980 Mind if I talk to your workers? 306 00:14:00,539 --> 00:14:03,019 Look, we got 10,000 cuts to make this shift. 307 00:14:03,642 --> 00:14:05,315 We'll try to stay out of the way. 308 00:14:10,983 --> 00:14:12,519 (QUESTIONS IN SPANISH) 309 00:14:13,485 --> 00:14:15,396 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 310 00:14:15,454 --> 00:14:16,694 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 311 00:14:16,755 --> 00:14:17,961 He was lookin' for someone. 312 00:14:18,023 --> 00:14:19,127 Who? 313 00:14:19,191 --> 00:14:21,432 Mike Bledsoe. He worked here two years ago. 314 00:14:21,493 --> 00:14:23,666 You know what he wanted to talk to Bledsoe about? 315 00:14:23,729 --> 00:14:25,572 No. But he said it was important. 316 00:14:25,631 --> 00:14:28,305 I told him Bledsoe lives in Brooklyn somewhere. 317 00:14:28,367 --> 00:14:31,007 How come you didn't want to tell us this in front of your boss? 318 00:14:31,069 --> 00:14:33,447 Mr. King think about only one thing, quota. 319 00:14:33,972 --> 00:14:36,248 BRISCOE: When's the last time you saw the kid in the picture? 320 00:14:36,441 --> 00:14:37,852 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 321 00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:43,260 He says that Hatcher was here last Wednesday. When'd you start work? 322 00:14:43,582 --> 00:14:44,925 Midnight. 323 00:14:44,983 --> 00:14:47,520 Couple of hours before Hatcher punched out. 324 00:14:47,586 --> 00:14:49,224 Gracias. De nada. 325 00:14:50,856 --> 00:14:52,028 Sorry, I don't know him. 326 00:14:52,090 --> 00:14:55,401 Take another look, Mr. Bledsoe. His name's Andrew Hatcher. 327 00:14:55,460 --> 00:14:57,804 You may have been the last person to see him alive. 328 00:14:57,863 --> 00:15:00,639 I'm tellin' you, I've never seen him before. What's this about? 329 00:15:00,899 --> 00:15:02,207 This kid was a college student. 330 00:15:02,267 --> 00:15:04,975 He got knifed to death a few days ago in the Meatpacking District. 331 00:15:05,037 --> 00:15:06,448 What's that got to do with me? 332 00:15:06,505 --> 00:15:08,178 Some of the workers at Elite Meats 333 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,516 said he came in on Wednesday askin' for you. 334 00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:13,056 He said he needed to talk to you about something. 335 00:15:13,111 --> 00:15:14,556 I don't know about what. 336 00:15:14,980 --> 00:15:18,120 So, you're tellin' us you have no idea why this kid would come lookin' for you? 337 00:15:18,717 --> 00:15:21,891 Look, someone called me the other night. 338 00:15:22,754 --> 00:15:24,233 I don't know, could've been him. 339 00:15:24,289 --> 00:15:25,893 BRISCOE: Did you talk to him? 340 00:15:26,592 --> 00:15:28,902 Left a message on my machine. 341 00:15:28,961 --> 00:15:31,134 I thought it was one of those, uh, solicitation calls, 342 00:15:31,196 --> 00:15:32,675 so I never called back. 343 00:15:32,731 --> 00:15:34,369 You still got the message? 344 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:35,844 Think so. 345 00:15:41,974 --> 00:15:45,080 My name's Andrew Hatcher, and I have a few questions I'd like to ask you. 346 00:15:45,143 --> 00:15:50,718 You can reach me at the NYPIRG office at 212-555-0101. Thank you. 347 00:15:50,849 --> 00:15:52,590 NYPIRG? 348 00:15:58,023 --> 00:16:00,230 COREY: New York Public Interest Research Group. 349 00:16:00,292 --> 00:16:03,364 We oversee students interested in public service issues. 350 00:16:03,428 --> 00:16:06,034 Andy was a very proactive volunteer. 351 00:16:06,531 --> 00:16:09,307 You don't think this has something to do with his work here, do you? 352 00:16:09,368 --> 00:16:10,870 At this point, we don't really know. 353 00:16:10,936 --> 00:16:14,247 Can you tell us why Andy would visit this meatpacking plant? 354 00:16:14,673 --> 00:16:16,778 He was very interested in animal rights. 355 00:16:16,842 --> 00:16:19,322 I didn't realize that they brought livestock into Manhattan. 356 00:16:19,711 --> 00:16:22,191 Elite Meats owns a slaughterhouse upstate. 357 00:16:22,247 --> 00:16:25,626 The carcasses are cut and processed in the Meatpacking District. 358 00:16:25,684 --> 00:16:27,721 What's that got to do with animal rights? 359 00:16:27,786 --> 00:16:30,096 It was how they killed and gutted the cows. 360 00:16:30,689 --> 00:16:32,032 Andy was doing research. 361 00:16:32,090 --> 00:16:34,161 GREEN: Are there any files on the work he was doing? 362 00:16:34,893 --> 00:16:36,873 Just an expense report. 363 00:16:40,899 --> 00:16:43,402 Looks like he submitted some receipts for some film. 364 00:16:43,468 --> 00:16:44,572 He was taking pictures? 365 00:16:44,636 --> 00:16:48,106 I don't know. But he bought the film at a place called Photofast. 366 00:16:50,876 --> 00:16:54,619 Hatcher. 4 by 6, matte finish. Been ready since Wednesday. 367 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,318 GREEN: We need to take a look at those. 368 00:16:56,915 --> 00:16:58,952 Guy's been in here a couple of times this month. 369 00:16:59,017 --> 00:17:00,519 Usually he picks 'em up right away. 370 00:17:00,585 --> 00:17:02,030 Yeah, he's had a rough week. 371 00:17:02,087 --> 00:17:03,464 Oh, look at this. 372 00:17:08,226 --> 00:17:10,706 It's enough to make me want to take up tofu. 373 00:17:12,864 --> 00:17:14,366 Isn't that Arthur King? 374 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,771 Mr. Elite Meats. 375 00:17:16,835 --> 00:17:18,439 GREEN: Arthur King in the plant. 376 00:17:18,503 --> 00:17:20,176 Arthur King on the loading dock. 377 00:17:21,607 --> 00:17:24,611 Arthur King in blue denim. 378 00:17:25,611 --> 00:17:28,785 All right, watch Miguel. See how he cuts along the bone? 379 00:17:28,847 --> 00:17:32,294 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 380 00:17:32,784 --> 00:17:35,458 And remember, fast, fast, fast. R?pido. 381 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,828 Mr. King. 382 00:17:37,222 --> 00:17:38,895 What's goin' on? You're coming with us. 383 00:17:38,957 --> 00:17:40,231 Hey, I got a plant to run here. 384 00:17:40,292 --> 00:17:41,771 That's gonna have to wait. 385 00:17:41,827 --> 00:17:44,239 Well, what's this about? A blue denim shirt. 386 00:17:46,632 --> 00:17:49,806 A lot easier when they don't fight back, huh? 387 00:17:53,972 --> 00:17:57,818 Andrew Hatcher, the college kid who was nosin' around your plant. 388 00:17:57,876 --> 00:18:00,220 The one you said you don't remember seeing. 389 00:18:00,278 --> 00:18:02,952 I didn't. He was killed with a boning knife, 390 00:18:03,015 --> 00:18:05,222 the same kind you use at your plant. 391 00:18:05,284 --> 00:18:08,094 Oh, everybody in the meat business uses that kind of knife. 392 00:18:08,153 --> 00:18:10,224 Everybody in the meat business wear these? 393 00:18:10,289 --> 00:18:12,735 Some of that blood belongs to the kid you filleted. 394 00:18:12,791 --> 00:18:14,202 You recognize the shirt? 395 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,264 No. 396 00:18:16,328 --> 00:18:18,831 BRISCOE: A picture's worth a thousand words. 397 00:18:20,632 --> 00:18:23,636 What's the matter? You look like you're about to have a cow. 398 00:18:25,570 --> 00:18:27,049 It's not my shirt. 399 00:18:27,105 --> 00:18:29,176 GREEN: You know, that's funny, because one of your cutters said that 400 00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:31,653 you finished the night wearing just a T-shirt. 401 00:18:31,710 --> 00:18:33,018 Is it because you ditched that? 402 00:18:34,813 --> 00:18:37,760 BRISCOE: We're havin' a warm winter, Artie, but it's not that warm. 403 00:18:37,816 --> 00:18:40,729 Look, am I under arrest, or what? 404 00:18:44,856 --> 00:18:46,335 Good question. 405 00:18:46,858 --> 00:18:49,168 Anything other than the photograph tying King to the shirt? 406 00:18:49,227 --> 00:18:52,538 Well, the fiber analysis says there's a 75% chance 407 00:18:52,597 --> 00:18:54,941 the hair strands on it came from King. 408 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,138 What about the DNA? 409 00:18:56,201 --> 00:18:59,478 The hair follicle has to be intact for them to make a comparison. 410 00:18:59,538 --> 00:19:01,575 These are only hair shafts. 411 00:19:01,973 --> 00:19:03,919 I suppose there's no chance of finding the murder weapon. 412 00:19:03,975 --> 00:19:05,977 Well, he probably brought it back to the plant. 413 00:19:06,044 --> 00:19:09,958 Any blood on it would be mixed with 20 different cows by now. 414 00:19:10,015 --> 00:19:11,517 That's a pleasant thought. 415 00:19:11,583 --> 00:19:14,120 Do you want us to release him or book him? 416 00:19:15,187 --> 00:19:16,564 Arrest him. 417 00:19:21,159 --> 00:19:22,968 Can we get an indictment? 418 00:19:23,028 --> 00:19:26,635 Well, we've got enough circumstantial evidence to establish probable cause. 419 00:19:26,698 --> 00:19:29,304 I figured the arrest buys us time to find something more concrete. 420 00:19:29,368 --> 00:19:30,779 Where are we on motive? 421 00:19:31,403 --> 00:19:32,746 The victim was a college student. 422 00:19:32,804 --> 00:19:34,442 It seems like he was looking into the possibilities 423 00:19:34,506 --> 00:19:37,009 of animal rights violations at King's plant. 424 00:19:37,509 --> 00:19:39,216 What type of violations? 425 00:19:39,611 --> 00:19:43,149 Something to do with how they were killing their cows, handling the carcasses. 426 00:19:43,982 --> 00:19:45,859 So, King murders him? 427 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,621 Pretty lean. 428 00:19:49,588 --> 00:19:52,899 Apparently Hatcher was about to make contact with a Michael Bledsoe 429 00:19:52,958 --> 00:19:54,198 right when he was killed. 430 00:19:54,259 --> 00:19:57,502 Bledsoe worked at King's plant about two years back. 431 00:19:57,562 --> 00:20:00,668 What could this Bledsoe have to say that would be worth killing over? 432 00:20:00,732 --> 00:20:03,838 He wasn't exactly forthcoming with Briscoe and Green. 433 00:20:04,603 --> 00:20:08,176 But Briscoe and Green couldn't drop a subpoena on him. 434 00:20:09,474 --> 00:20:12,614 I already told those detectives I never met the kid. 435 00:20:13,011 --> 00:20:15,514 Then what is it you think he wanted to talk to you about, Mr. Bledsoe? 436 00:20:15,580 --> 00:20:16,991 I have no idea. 437 00:20:17,048 --> 00:20:19,324 Well, the police seem to think you might. 438 00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:21,887 Did it have anything to do with the slaughter practices at your old job? 439 00:20:21,953 --> 00:20:24,627 If I never talked to him, I wouldn't know, would I? 440 00:20:24,990 --> 00:20:27,800 Well, the people at Elite gave him your name. Why would they do that? 441 00:20:27,859 --> 00:20:28,963 Ask them. 442 00:20:29,027 --> 00:20:30,233 I'm asking you. 443 00:20:30,295 --> 00:20:31,706 And if I have to ask you again, 444 00:20:31,763 --> 00:20:33,333 it'll be in front of a grand jury. 445 00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:36,845 Ask me anywhere you want, but I can't talk about Elite. 446 00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:38,477 You'd be under subpoena. 447 00:20:38,537 --> 00:20:39,641 I don't know what that means. 448 00:20:39,704 --> 00:20:43,151 All I know is the lawyer said if I talk I could lose my pension. 449 00:20:44,142 --> 00:20:45,280 What lawyer? 450 00:20:45,343 --> 00:20:47,880 The one who had me sign the confidentiality agreement. 451 00:20:47,946 --> 00:20:50,586 You signed a confidentiality agreement when you left Elite? 452 00:20:50,649 --> 00:20:52,686 Just speak to the lawyer, okay? 453 00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:53,855 What's the lawyer's name? 454 00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:55,330 I don't know. 455 00:20:55,387 --> 00:20:57,765 Some guy who works for AgriStar Enterprises. 456 00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:00,735 If he didn't work for Elite, why did he have you sign... 457 00:21:00,792 --> 00:21:02,533 Look, miss, you gotta talk to the lawyer, 458 00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:04,369 or else subpoena me or whatever. 459 00:21:04,429 --> 00:21:07,035 But I'm not riskin' my pension here, okay? 460 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:16,041 Jim Dittmar, AgriStar's corporate counsel. 461 00:21:16,107 --> 00:21:18,212 Hi. And this is Bill Talbot, our CEO. 462 00:21:18,276 --> 00:21:20,085 Happy to help any way we can. 463 00:21:20,478 --> 00:21:22,719 You said on the phone this concerned Elite Meats? 464 00:21:23,248 --> 00:21:24,784 Well, my office is investigating a murder 465 00:21:24,849 --> 00:21:27,329 we believe may have been committed by one of its employees. 466 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:29,125 Murder? 467 00:21:29,187 --> 00:21:31,633 I'm sorry, this relates to us in what way? 468 00:21:31,690 --> 00:21:33,727 We know Elite Meats is one of your food suppliers, 469 00:21:33,792 --> 00:21:35,328 and one of their former employees told me 470 00:21:35,393 --> 00:21:37,999 that your company had him sign a confidentiality agreement. 471 00:21:38,063 --> 00:21:39,303 DITTMAR: Who's the employee? 472 00:21:39,364 --> 00:21:40,741 Michael Bledsoe. 473 00:21:41,266 --> 00:21:42,768 I recognize the name. 474 00:21:42,834 --> 00:21:45,246 The agreement was part of a litigation settlement. 475 00:21:45,303 --> 00:21:47,579 AgriStar was in litigation with Elite Meats? 476 00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:49,949 Same side of the table. We were co-defendants. 477 00:21:50,308 --> 00:21:51,753 What were you being sued for? 478 00:21:52,110 --> 00:21:53,612 It was Elite who got sued. 479 00:21:53,678 --> 00:21:55,521 Plaintiffs dragged us in as a deep pocket. 480 00:21:56,214 --> 00:21:57,352 On what claim? 481 00:21:57,415 --> 00:21:58,894 I'm sorry. We'd like to help, 482 00:21:58,950 --> 00:22:01,260 but the confidentiality agreement that binds Elite 483 00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:03,458 and the plaintiffs binds us as well. 484 00:22:03,521 --> 00:22:04,864 And I can certainly appreciate that, 485 00:22:04,923 --> 00:22:07,267 but this is now a homicide investigation. 486 00:22:07,325 --> 00:22:08,895 And it's possible a murder was committed 487 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,962 to cover up something that Elite was doing. 488 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:13,475 And what is it you think Elite was involved in? 489 00:22:13,532 --> 00:22:15,170 Right now, our best information is that 490 00:22:15,233 --> 00:22:17,873 there may have been some animal rights violations at the plant. 491 00:22:18,904 --> 00:22:21,180 Well, without violating confidentiality, 492 00:22:21,239 --> 00:22:25,312 I can assure you that the lawsuit had nothing to do with animal rights violations. 493 00:22:26,678 --> 00:22:28,055 Then what was it about? 494 00:22:28,113 --> 00:22:31,583 I don't know. The litigation records were sealed by the court. 495 00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:34,088 Well, if the lawsuit wasn't about animal rights, 496 00:22:34,152 --> 00:22:36,758 Bledsoe ought to be able to talk to us about animal rights. 497 00:22:36,821 --> 00:22:38,391 So, either he was just being uncooperative 498 00:22:38,456 --> 00:22:40,561 or we need to adjust our motive theory. 499 00:22:40,625 --> 00:22:42,571 Only one way to find out. 500 00:22:42,627 --> 00:22:45,301 Find a witness who didn't sign a confidentiality agreement. 501 00:22:45,997 --> 00:22:47,704 How about a meat inspector from the USDA? 502 00:22:47,766 --> 00:22:50,872 Maybe they can tell us what was going on at King's plant. 503 00:22:51,236 --> 00:22:54,877 Well, slaughtering infractions were something we investigated initially. 504 00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:56,180 Initially? 505 00:22:56,241 --> 00:22:59,347 Unfortunately, what we found was something far more serious. 506 00:22:59,778 --> 00:23:00,916 What do you mean? 507 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:03,350 What do you know about E. coli? 508 00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:07,096 It's a bacteria that can cause serious infections. 509 00:23:07,152 --> 00:23:09,598 Sometimes it infects the cow's gut. 510 00:23:10,088 --> 00:23:12,762 If the gut is then handled improperly, 511 00:23:12,824 --> 00:23:15,566 there's a potential for a pretty dangerous contamination. 512 00:23:15,627 --> 00:23:17,368 Is that what was happening at Elite? 513 00:23:17,729 --> 00:23:19,208 If the gutting's done properly, 514 00:23:19,397 --> 00:23:21,707 the spill rate's less than half a percent. 515 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,603 We put Elite's at 20%. 516 00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:27,406 But there wasn't anything we could do about it at the time. 517 00:23:27,505 --> 00:23:29,815 What do you mean? You're the USDA. 518 00:23:30,642 --> 00:23:33,282 At most, we can pull our inspectors and seals of approval 519 00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:35,450 if we think a plant is contaminating meat. 520 00:23:35,947 --> 00:23:37,620 You can't just shut the plant down? 521 00:23:37,682 --> 00:23:39,457 We've tried shutting plants down, 522 00:23:39,517 --> 00:23:41,895 but the courts just keep ruling against us. 523 00:23:41,953 --> 00:23:43,296 Who informs the public? 524 00:23:43,655 --> 00:23:45,328 It's not that simple. 525 00:23:45,390 --> 00:23:48,564 Our response depends on the severity of the problem. 526 00:23:48,626 --> 00:23:51,835 We can't sound the alarm for every case of food poisoning. 527 00:23:51,896 --> 00:23:54,672 These companies would be sued by anyone with a stomach ache. 528 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,512 E. colt's a little more severe than a stomach ache. 529 00:23:57,569 --> 00:24:00,516 Of course it is. But I don't want you to get the wrong impression. 530 00:24:00,572 --> 00:24:02,574 Elite was just one problem company 531 00:24:02,641 --> 00:24:05,212 in an otherwise very responsible industry. 532 00:24:06,544 --> 00:24:08,854 So much for making brisket this weekend. 533 00:24:08,913 --> 00:24:12,190 Well, the USDA thinks half of Elite's livestock was infected with E. coli 534 00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:14,321 but says they couldn't do anything about it. 535 00:24:14,386 --> 00:24:15,558 Half? 536 00:24:15,954 --> 00:24:18,935 They were improperly gutting one out of every five cows. 537 00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:23,234 So, ground up, one cow can contaminate 32,000 pounds of beef. 538 00:24:23,294 --> 00:24:26,867 Well, why didn't the USDA or CDC demand a recall? 539 00:24:26,931 --> 00:24:29,002 Well, the USDA doesn't have the authority, 540 00:24:29,067 --> 00:24:31,946 and the CDC only finds out if the company tells them 541 00:24:32,003 --> 00:24:34,279 or if the problem is widespread. 542 00:24:34,339 --> 00:24:36,751 Makes you wonder why we even have a USDA. 543 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:40,415 So, obviously this kid Hatcher was onto something far more serious 544 00:24:40,478 --> 00:24:42,480 than a few animal rights violations. 545 00:24:42,547 --> 00:24:45,858 Well, I imagine news of an E. coli outbreak at King's plant 546 00:24:45,917 --> 00:24:47,328 would cost him his business. 547 00:24:47,385 --> 00:24:49,524 Only the person who might be able to answer these questions 548 00:24:49,587 --> 00:24:52,067 thinks he's bound by a confidentiality agreement. 549 00:24:52,123 --> 00:24:56,071 An agreement that covers up the lawsuit against Elite and AgriStar. 550 00:24:56,127 --> 00:25:00,098 If Elite was contaminating beef, you can bet that's why they got sued. 551 00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:02,008 And why King killed Hatcher. 552 00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:03,239 He was afraid he'd blow the whistle 553 00:25:03,301 --> 00:25:05,577 on whatever's in the pages of that lawsuit. 554 00:25:05,637 --> 00:25:07,207 Most judges aren't going to like us looking 555 00:25:07,272 --> 00:25:10,014 to try and violate the privacy of rights of civil litigants. 556 00:25:10,675 --> 00:25:12,348 Find one who will. 557 00:25:14,212 --> 00:25:15,589 I thought this was a criminal case. 558 00:25:15,647 --> 00:25:17,649 Why are you seeking discovery of a civil lawsuit? 559 00:25:18,049 --> 00:25:19,858 JACK: We believe that the lawsuit may contain evidence 560 00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:21,591 relating to the defendant's motive. 561 00:25:21,653 --> 00:25:24,224 Kevin Roth for Arthur King and Elite Meats, Your Honor. 562 00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:26,599 Mr. McCoy's on a fishing expedition. 563 00:25:26,658 --> 00:25:30,663 I concur, Your Honor. Jim Dittmar, counsel to AgriStar Enterprises. 564 00:25:30,728 --> 00:25:33,538 AgriStar is a party to the confidentiality agreements 565 00:25:33,598 --> 00:25:35,805 Mr. McCoy is looking to vitiate. 566 00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:37,938 It's the only way we can get access to evidence 567 00:25:38,002 --> 00:25:39,538 which may be material to our case. 568 00:25:39,604 --> 00:25:41,242 The key word being "may". 569 00:25:41,306 --> 00:25:45,721 You've got no evidence to justify violating a valid nondisclosure agreement. 570 00:25:45,777 --> 00:25:48,519 How can we when the nondisclosure is the very thing 571 00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:50,753 that's frustrating our investigation? 572 00:25:50,815 --> 00:25:54,786 The agreement is unenforceable if it frustrates the pursuit of justice. 573 00:25:54,853 --> 00:25:56,890 It's black letter law, Your Honor. 574 00:25:56,955 --> 00:26:00,767 A contract contrary to the public good is unenforceable 575 00:26:00,825 --> 00:26:03,271 no matter how many people wish it wasn't. 576 00:26:03,328 --> 00:26:05,274 I want to look at the documents. DITTMAR: Your Honor... 577 00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:07,776 How can I determine if the People's motion has any merit 578 00:26:07,832 --> 00:26:09,834 unless I see what we're fighting over? 579 00:26:11,035 --> 00:26:12,673 Don't worry, Mr. Dittmar, 580 00:26:13,204 --> 00:26:15,309 I'm a steak and potatoes man. 581 00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:19,578 Special delivery from Judge Grady. 582 00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:24,556 I guess the court's reading of the documents was different than Mr. Dittmar's. 583 00:26:24,883 --> 00:26:26,521 Elizabeth Lawrence et al. v. 584 00:26:26,584 --> 00:26:29,588 Elite Meats Incorporated and AgriStar Enterprises. 585 00:26:31,723 --> 00:26:36,172 Elite was the Manhattan area supplier of beef patties to Big Bill's. 586 00:26:36,528 --> 00:26:38,030 The fast food chain? 587 00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:42,238 AgriStar was more than just a deep pocket in this. It owns Big Bill's. 588 00:26:43,001 --> 00:26:47,143 According to the complaint, Big Bill's patrons were getting E. coli infections. 589 00:26:47,438 --> 00:26:49,543 So, Hatcher was onto something. 590 00:26:50,475 --> 00:26:52,113 After one of the customers got sick 591 00:26:52,177 --> 00:26:54,020 their lawyer looked for other cases, 592 00:26:54,078 --> 00:26:56,718 but AgriStar pulled out all the stops to force a settlement. 593 00:26:57,682 --> 00:27:01,061 List of affected customers. Beth Lawrence, age five. 594 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,498 Emily Miller, age four. Michael Foranda, age three. 595 00:27:04,556 --> 00:27:09,232 Lisa Santos, age three. Benjamin Davies, age four. 596 00:27:11,496 --> 00:27:13,601 Jack, the plaintiffs' claim was for wrongful death. 597 00:27:13,665 --> 00:27:15,269 These children are all dead. 598 00:27:24,409 --> 00:27:26,582 Five children dead. How? 599 00:27:26,644 --> 00:27:29,147 They died of organ failure after contracting E. coli. 600 00:27:29,214 --> 00:27:32,661 It was in the beef Elite sold to AgriStar's subsidiary, Big Bill's. 601 00:27:32,717 --> 00:27:33,991 It's a fast food chain. 602 00:27:34,452 --> 00:27:35,726 I eat at Big Bill's. 603 00:27:35,787 --> 00:27:37,061 You do? 604 00:27:37,422 --> 00:27:38,958 They have the best fries. 605 00:27:40,892 --> 00:27:43,702 It's amazing that AgriStar was able to cover this up. 606 00:27:44,896 --> 00:27:46,876 Why wouldn't the plaintiffs blow the whistle? 607 00:27:46,931 --> 00:27:49,775 I mean, why would somebody whose child got sick keep quiet? 608 00:27:49,834 --> 00:27:51,745 As a negotiating tactic. 609 00:27:51,803 --> 00:27:54,340 The parents sue for compensation, not publicity, 610 00:27:54,405 --> 00:27:56,078 but the threat gives them leverage. 611 00:27:56,141 --> 00:27:58,348 Once they settled, the confidentiality agreements 612 00:27:58,409 --> 00:28:00,446 make sure everything got swept under the rug. 613 00:28:00,512 --> 00:28:03,891 Only Andy Hatcher's investigation threatened to bring it back up 614 00:28:03,948 --> 00:28:05,621 and drive King out of business. 615 00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:07,857 Not just Arthur King. 616 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:11,731 AgriStar was the one who put up the confidentiality smoke screen, 617 00:28:11,789 --> 00:28:14,429 and its CEO misled Serena when she asked what 618 00:28:14,492 --> 00:28:16,768 its connection was to Hatcher's investigation. 619 00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:18,830 He was protecting his wallet. 620 00:28:19,230 --> 00:28:23,804 Still, it doesn't prove Talbot had something to do with Hatcher's death. 621 00:28:24,035 --> 00:28:25,412 Well, maybe not Hatcher. 622 00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:27,381 But what about those five children? 623 00:28:27,438 --> 00:28:31,511 Right now, we have nothing to show that AgriStar's business practices were 624 00:28:31,576 --> 00:28:33,647 anything other than completely legal. 625 00:28:33,711 --> 00:28:36,817 Why not? Because the USDA tells us so? 626 00:28:36,881 --> 00:28:40,192 They've already admitted they either don't have the teeth to do the job 627 00:28:40,251 --> 00:28:42,026 or they're unwilling to use them. 628 00:28:42,487 --> 00:28:44,694 If they're not going to do something about this, I will. 629 00:28:44,756 --> 00:28:47,999 Doing the USDA's job seems a bit off target. 630 00:28:48,059 --> 00:28:49,663 I'm not talking about doing their job. 631 00:28:49,727 --> 00:28:52,105 I'm talking about doing our job. 632 00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:56,407 According to this, AgriStar knew Elite was giving them tainted food. 633 00:28:56,968 --> 00:28:58,572 Second degree manslaughter. 634 00:28:58,636 --> 00:29:01,207 Talbot was guilty of reckless disregard. 635 00:29:01,439 --> 00:29:03,544 And how do you plan to show causation? 636 00:29:04,876 --> 00:29:06,355 I don't. That's your job. 637 00:29:07,512 --> 00:29:12,120 Jack, you've already prosecuted gun manufacturers, drug companies, HMOs. 638 00:29:12,183 --> 00:29:14,390 And I'm the one resisting. That should tell you something. 639 00:29:14,485 --> 00:29:16,021 I don't think you'd be resisting 640 00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:19,193 if Arthur King told you that Talbot was the one responsible. 641 00:29:23,628 --> 00:29:26,131 You want to see if we can flip Arthur King? 642 00:29:29,934 --> 00:29:31,277 ROTH: You're wasting your time. 643 00:29:31,336 --> 00:29:32,906 My client's not interested in pleading 644 00:29:32,971 --> 00:29:35,076 when all you've got is a circumstantial case. 645 00:29:35,139 --> 00:29:36,743 We're not here on the Hatcher murder. 646 00:29:36,808 --> 00:29:38,719 Then you're really wasting your time. 647 00:29:38,776 --> 00:29:40,813 That's the only crime he's charged with. 648 00:29:40,878 --> 00:29:42,084 So far. 649 00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:44,018 What's she talking about? 650 00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:47,123 Your client's culpability in the death of five children. 651 00:29:47,685 --> 00:29:48,789 For what? 652 00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:50,794 For selling infected meat to AgriStar 653 00:29:50,855 --> 00:29:53,495 with reckless disregard for the consequences. 654 00:29:54,158 --> 00:29:58,300 Fortunately for you, Mr. King, my boss is more interested in knowing 655 00:29:58,363 --> 00:30:01,537 whether Bill Talbot knew that's what you were doing. 656 00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:05,274 ROTH: You won't charge him on the five kids if he testifies against Talbot? 657 00:30:05,803 --> 00:30:08,079 If he knows enough for us to build a case against him. 658 00:30:08,139 --> 00:30:10,676 And if he pleads man one on the Hatcher murder. 659 00:30:20,251 --> 00:30:23,425 He can give you AgriStar. But you'll have to do better. 660 00:30:24,956 --> 00:30:26,230 I can go as far as man two, 661 00:30:26,290 --> 00:30:29,328 but I want to hear what he knows before I finalize any deal. 662 00:30:44,008 --> 00:30:45,885 Two years ago, 663 00:30:46,644 --> 00:30:48,954 we were cuttin' corners just to make delivery. 664 00:30:49,747 --> 00:30:52,853 Talbot knew, but he didn't care. 665 00:30:52,917 --> 00:30:55,397 Not as long as we met our quota. 666 00:30:57,355 --> 00:31:01,531 Then those kids died, we get sued. 667 00:31:02,393 --> 00:31:06,500 Suddenly everybody's concerned about safety. 668 00:31:08,065 --> 00:31:11,171 Bill Talbot knew that your beef was being exposed to E. coli? 669 00:31:11,235 --> 00:31:14,773 Yes. I told him we had to cut corners to meet quota. 670 00:31:15,273 --> 00:31:18,083 Plus, he was gettin' the same reports I was. 671 00:31:18,142 --> 00:31:20,850 He knew that E. coli wasn't there for flavor. 672 00:31:21,212 --> 00:31:22,748 What about Hatcher? 673 00:31:27,952 --> 00:31:31,729 Talbot was tipped by somebody that the kid was nosin' around. 674 00:31:31,789 --> 00:31:34,827 He said he was some kind of activist 675 00:31:34,892 --> 00:31:36,929 lookin' to shut down the plant. 676 00:31:37,628 --> 00:31:39,869 So, I started keepin' my eyes open. 677 00:31:41,666 --> 00:31:43,703 One night, I m workin 678 00:31:44,702 --> 00:31:48,377 He's there takin' pictures, so I followed him. 679 00:31:48,906 --> 00:31:52,012 I just wanted to get the film from him. That's all I was gonna do. 680 00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:55,558 I mean, I put 30 years into Elite, you know? 681 00:32:02,286 --> 00:32:04,527 But he wouldn't give me the pictures. 682 00:32:05,389 --> 00:32:07,460 He starts yellin' at me instead, 683 00:32:08,059 --> 00:32:10,300 sayin' that I'm poisoning people. 684 00:32:11,629 --> 00:32:13,836 So, I took out my knife, 685 00:32:14,765 --> 00:32:17,575 just to scare him so he'd give me the pictures. 686 00:32:21,439 --> 00:32:23,783 I don't even know how it happened. 687 00:32:25,343 --> 00:32:30,258 He was just yellin', and I was scared. 688 00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:33,886 Scared 689 00:32:35,987 --> 00:32:38,228 I was gonna lose everything. 690 00:32:40,191 --> 00:32:43,001 After it happened I took his things, 691 00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:45,006 tossed the camera in the Hudson. 692 00:32:47,098 --> 00:32:49,271 All my life, 693 00:32:50,701 --> 00:32:53,409 I never thought I could do anything like this. 694 00:33:00,945 --> 00:33:02,288 (CRYING) 695 00:33:08,019 --> 00:33:10,260 TALBOT: The Big Bill Junior Playland 696 00:33:10,321 --> 00:33:12,995 is an interactive playground for the 21st century. 697 00:33:13,424 --> 00:33:15,426 We project that by the end of 2004, 698 00:33:15,493 --> 00:33:18,770 the Big Bill's franchises in each of the major markets will have one. 699 00:33:18,829 --> 00:33:21,867 This point-of-sale destination will help cement AgriStar's 700 00:33:21,933 --> 00:33:23,071 relationship with the... GREEN: William Talbot, 701 00:33:23,134 --> 00:33:25,080 you're under arrest for second degree manslaughter... 702 00:33:25,136 --> 00:33:26,581 Gentlemen, if you have a problem, my secretary... 703 00:33:26,637 --> 00:33:28,014 Elizabeth Lawrence. Arrest? 704 00:33:28,072 --> 00:33:29,847 Benjamin Davies. Michael Foranda. 705 00:33:29,907 --> 00:33:30,977 There must be a mistake. 706 00:33:31,042 --> 00:33:32,715 Lisa Santos and Emily Miller. I want my attorney. 707 00:33:32,777 --> 00:33:34,415 Want fries with that? 708 00:33:37,315 --> 00:33:40,387 This is a witch hunt. It's vindictive prosecution. 709 00:33:40,451 --> 00:33:43,227 JACK: If you thought you could convince a jury of that, you wouldn't be here. 710 00:33:43,287 --> 00:33:46,757 The only reason we're here is to stop this runaway train you've started. 711 00:33:46,824 --> 00:33:48,633 SOUTHERLYN: You said on the phone you had an offer. 712 00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:50,698 You dismiss the indictment, 713 00:33:50,761 --> 00:33:53,503 and in exchange, AgriStar will disclose 714 00:33:53,564 --> 00:33:56,374 the safety measures we've already undertaken 715 00:33:56,434 --> 00:33:59,813 and promise to implement new ones, which we can negotiate. 716 00:34:03,574 --> 00:34:05,451 Thank you for your time. 717 00:34:06,477 --> 00:34:08,684 Wait. At least consider the offer. 718 00:34:08,746 --> 00:34:11,784 There is nothing to consider. Five children are dead. 719 00:34:11,849 --> 00:34:13,260 I had nothing to do with that. Bill... 720 00:34:13,317 --> 00:34:14,921 No, I want to say this. 721 00:34:15,619 --> 00:34:17,292 I am not the villain here. 722 00:34:17,355 --> 00:34:19,995 I refused to do business with King unless he cleaned up his act. 723 00:34:20,424 --> 00:34:22,370 But only after five people died. 724 00:34:22,426 --> 00:34:26,306 We serve millions of people a day. This was five cases. 725 00:34:26,630 --> 00:34:29,110 Five children, killed by your product. 726 00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:31,945 Not killed, counselor. They got sick. 727 00:34:32,870 --> 00:34:34,816 Look, let's get practical for a minute. 728 00:34:34,872 --> 00:34:37,216 If what your boss is looking for is safer food, 729 00:34:37,275 --> 00:34:39,050 our offer guarantees that. 730 00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:42,281 Your offer is a list of promises 731 00:34:42,346 --> 00:34:45,384 with no means of assuring that you won't loophole your way out of them 732 00:34:45,449 --> 00:34:47,326 the first chance you get. 733 00:34:47,785 --> 00:34:49,321 And it's rejected. 734 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,075 Two years ago, our quota was 10,000 pounds a day. 735 00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:09,513 But sometimes a truck's late, a grinder breaks. 736 00:35:09,573 --> 00:35:11,280 We've gotta make up that time. 737 00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:14,120 So, knives don't get cleaned after gutting, 738 00:35:14,178 --> 00:35:17,625 spills from the gut table don't get wiped up as carefully. 739 00:35:18,149 --> 00:35:21,494 And as a result, could E. coli co-mingle with the meat? 740 00:35:21,552 --> 00:35:23,429 Well, when you've got a quota, you don't waste. 741 00:35:23,487 --> 00:35:27,196 Not the pieces from the gut table or the pieces that drop on the floor. 742 00:35:27,758 --> 00:35:29,635 To your knowledge, was the defendant aware 743 00:35:29,694 --> 00:35:31,537 of these conditions at your plant? 744 00:35:31,596 --> 00:35:34,042 Yeah. I delivered short on one shipment. 745 00:35:34,098 --> 00:35:35,975 Talbot chewed me out over it. 746 00:35:36,033 --> 00:35:39,276 I told him I couldn't meet his quota without cuttin' corners. 747 00:35:39,604 --> 00:35:40,742 JACK: Cutting corners? 748 00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:42,216 Health and safety. 749 00:35:42,273 --> 00:35:43,843 I told him about spill rates 750 00:35:43,908 --> 00:35:46,445 and how E. coli was gettin' into the meat. 751 00:35:46,510 --> 00:35:48,786 And I told him what we had to do to keep things clean. 752 00:35:49,714 --> 00:35:51,387 JACK: And what was his response? 753 00:35:51,449 --> 00:35:53,224 He said it was my problem, 754 00:35:53,284 --> 00:35:55,764 and if I didn't meet quota, he'd go elsewhere. 755 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:57,629 I'm barely breakin' even. 756 00:35:57,688 --> 00:36:00,760 If he pulled his business, I'd lose mine. 757 00:36:05,129 --> 00:36:06,972 Mr. Talbot never told you to sacrifice 758 00:36:07,031 --> 00:36:08,942 health and safety to meet quota, did he? 759 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,207 How else did he think I was gonna do it? 760 00:36:12,269 --> 00:36:15,307 Add more workers? Expand the plant? 761 00:36:15,606 --> 00:36:19,713 I told him that sacrificing safety was the only way. 762 00:36:19,777 --> 00:36:22,121 What about increasing efficiency? 763 00:36:22,179 --> 00:36:26,059 I've been in this business 30 years, and it's always been the same. 764 00:36:26,117 --> 00:36:29,496 Faster, faster, faster. Anything else is a pipe dream. 765 00:36:29,553 --> 00:36:31,931 HUTCHINS: Well, if 10,000 pounds a week wasn't feasible, 766 00:36:31,989 --> 00:36:34,868 you never should have made the contract in the first place. 767 00:36:35,893 --> 00:36:37,429 Right? 768 00:36:40,364 --> 00:36:43,277 You're currently serving a prison sentence for homicide, aren't you? 769 00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:45,973 Objection. HUTCHINS: Goes to credibility. 770 00:36:47,071 --> 00:36:48,414 Overruled. 771 00:36:49,907 --> 00:36:52,410 Only you received a lesser sentence 772 00:36:52,476 --> 00:36:55,548 in exchange for your testimony against Mr. Talbot, didn't you? 773 00:36:55,613 --> 00:36:57,024 I'm tellin' the truth. 774 00:36:57,081 --> 00:37:01,894 The truth is that you're blaming my client for your mistakes. 775 00:37:08,592 --> 00:37:10,902 TALBOT: Big Bill's is a family restaurant. 776 00:37:11,529 --> 00:37:14,703 Two-thirds of our fast food employees are under the age of 20. 777 00:37:14,765 --> 00:37:18,611 Over 25 million children walk into our restaurants every month. 778 00:37:18,669 --> 00:37:22,344 We serve 10 million burgers to kids a week. 779 00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:26,717 The suggestion that we're a company that kills children is ludicrous. 780 00:37:27,077 --> 00:37:30,524 And yet there is a statistical association 781 00:37:30,581 --> 00:37:34,154 between the deaths of five children and your company. 782 00:37:34,552 --> 00:37:37,431 And when I learned about it I was devastated. 783 00:37:38,389 --> 00:37:42,269 But you're talking about a statistical association, not direct proof. 784 00:37:43,894 --> 00:37:47,706 Look, King may have had his problems, 785 00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:51,874 but today his plant is clean because I got it cleaned. 786 00:37:52,503 --> 00:37:56,246 Not the USDA, not the CDC. Me. 787 00:37:56,674 --> 00:37:57,778 HUTCHINS: How? 788 00:37:57,842 --> 00:38:00,584 By refusing to do business with King unless he cleaned up his act. 789 00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:05,219 Well, you're aware that Mr. King says that you forced him to break the law. 790 00:38:05,282 --> 00:38:06,989 TALBOT: Well, that doesn't make any sense. 791 00:38:07,051 --> 00:38:08,894 My company is his customer. 792 00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:12,366 Why would I pay good money for a product that wasn't of the highest quality? 793 00:38:14,358 --> 00:38:15,803 Nothing further. 794 00:38:17,795 --> 00:38:19,832 Arthur King testified under oath 795 00:38:19,897 --> 00:38:23,310 that you knew he was supplying a diseased product. Was he lying? 796 00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:25,806 His version of events doesn't include when we found out. 797 00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:28,942 As I said, as soon as we knew there was a problem, 798 00:38:29,006 --> 00:38:31,714 we refused to do business with them until they fixed it. 799 00:38:32,009 --> 00:38:34,990 And this discovery just happened to coincide 800 00:38:35,045 --> 00:38:36,786 with the deaths of these five children? 801 00:38:36,847 --> 00:38:37,951 Objection. 802 00:38:38,015 --> 00:38:39,323 Overruled. 803 00:38:41,352 --> 00:38:43,696 These kids caught an infection. 804 00:38:44,889 --> 00:38:46,459 God only knows from what. 805 00:38:47,591 --> 00:38:49,127 I don't know about God, Mr. Talbot, 806 00:38:49,193 --> 00:38:51,104 but to me, it's no coincidence 807 00:38:51,162 --> 00:38:55,304 that each of these five children died within hours of eating your product. 808 00:38:55,366 --> 00:38:59,815 My product is food, a living thing. 809 00:39:00,704 --> 00:39:03,878 And with living things disease is a fact of life. 810 00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:07,986 Children can catch E. coli from petting animals. 811 00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:10,659 Why aren't you putting the Bronx Zoo on trial? 812 00:39:11,549 --> 00:39:14,587 In a zoo, the danger to children is kept in a cage. 813 00:39:15,686 --> 00:39:19,532 I don't believe that the food that my company sold made those children sick. 814 00:39:20,157 --> 00:39:21,864 Then why settle with their parents? 815 00:39:22,293 --> 00:39:26,002 Objection. Evidence of out-of-court settlements is inadmissible. 816 00:39:26,063 --> 00:39:29,636 Not if it's being used to impeach the defendant's statement. 817 00:39:30,968 --> 00:39:33,380 You put it in play, Mr. Hutchins. 818 00:39:33,971 --> 00:39:35,416 Answer the question. 819 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,016 It wasn't an admission of guilt, Mr. McCoy. 820 00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:43,514 We settled because it was cheaper to do so than to go to trial. 821 00:39:43,581 --> 00:39:46,858 Just as it was cheaper to purchase tainted food 822 00:39:46,917 --> 00:39:49,363 than to take steps to make sure that it was safe. 823 00:39:49,653 --> 00:39:51,496 Objection. JUDGE: That's sustained. 824 00:39:51,755 --> 00:39:53,666 Actually, I'd like to answer. 825 00:39:55,626 --> 00:39:57,401 I run a business, Mr. McCoy. 826 00:39:57,962 --> 00:39:59,999 Everybody likes a perfect product. 827 00:40:00,331 --> 00:40:03,642 But if it's too expensive or inconvenient, no one buys it. 828 00:40:04,835 --> 00:40:07,816 The airlines could hand search every passenger on every flight, 829 00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:10,983 but the delays would put them out of business. 830 00:40:11,041 --> 00:40:14,648 Cars could be made as safe as tanks. 831 00:40:15,713 --> 00:40:19,957 But how many people could afford a car that costs as much as a house? 832 00:40:20,985 --> 00:40:24,398 Risk-return analysis isn't reckless. 833 00:40:25,556 --> 00:40:26,830 It's responsible business. 834 00:40:28,025 --> 00:40:30,596 So, is keeping your customers alive. 835 00:40:40,804 --> 00:40:42,442 Half the jury looked like they were about to choke 836 00:40:42,506 --> 00:40:44,179 on Talbot's risk-return argument. 837 00:40:44,241 --> 00:40:46,687 Even though it's really a valid response. 838 00:40:47,277 --> 00:40:49,052 The law doesn't require companies to adopt 839 00:40:49,113 --> 00:40:51,593 safety standards that'd price them out of business. 840 00:40:51,648 --> 00:40:55,653 There's no cost-benefit analysis that justifies children dying. 841 00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:59,763 Still, there are limits to corporate responsibility even in the case of children. 842 00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:02,070 Whether or not the jury buys Talbot's argument, 843 00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:03,764 it's still his word against King's. 844 00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:08,004 King's a blue collar felon, while Talbot's a captain of industry. 845 00:41:08,065 --> 00:41:10,045 He's made his career out of spin control 846 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,478 and creating a kid-friendly corporate image. 847 00:41:12,803 --> 00:41:16,250 Well, maybe it's time to leverage that image against them. 848 00:41:17,308 --> 00:41:19,447 Out of the mouths of babes. 849 00:41:20,744 --> 00:41:24,453 I imagine our original offer is looking pretty good right about now. 850 00:41:24,515 --> 00:41:26,620 The only offer we would consider at this point 851 00:41:26,684 --> 00:41:28,630 would have to include jail time. 852 00:41:30,387 --> 00:41:32,594 Have we been sitting in the same courtroom? 853 00:41:32,656 --> 00:41:35,569 'Cause our case has been going pretty well for us so far. 854 00:41:35,993 --> 00:41:38,303 "So far" being the operative term. 855 00:41:39,229 --> 00:41:40,765 What are you talking about? 856 00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:42,674 We can still call witnesses to rebut 857 00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:45,304 your client's risk-reward argument. 858 00:41:45,636 --> 00:41:47,673 Oh, I doubt this jury will be impressed by 859 00:41:47,738 --> 00:41:51,743 some USDA inspector or a hired gun economist. 860 00:41:53,043 --> 00:41:54,989 I'm not talking about an expert. 861 00:42:00,250 --> 00:42:01,593 This is Roberta Miller. 862 00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:05,093 JACK: Her name might ring a bell. 863 00:42:05,856 --> 00:42:10,100 Your company paid her $1 million to settle her wrongful death claim. 864 00:42:11,228 --> 00:42:12,639 What the hell is this? 865 00:42:12,696 --> 00:42:14,676 Do you want to hear what she'll say in court? 866 00:42:14,732 --> 00:42:18,646 That my daughter got E. coli from one of your hamburgers. 867 00:42:19,603 --> 00:42:23,016 That it attacked her heart and kidneys, 868 00:42:23,907 --> 00:42:25,614 just shut them down. 869 00:42:29,246 --> 00:42:31,317 She was only four years old. 870 00:42:32,249 --> 00:42:33,785 Four. 871 00:42:37,021 --> 00:42:38,091 Can they do this? 872 00:42:38,756 --> 00:42:40,827 A judge will never let it happen. 873 00:42:40,891 --> 00:42:42,734 Your client opened the door. 874 00:42:42,793 --> 00:42:46,570 He argued that adequate safety was too expensive given the risk. 875 00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:50,544 Mrs. Miller will testify to the consequences of ignoring that risk. 876 00:42:51,235 --> 00:42:54,876 We have four other witnesses in addition to Mrs. Miller. 877 00:42:54,938 --> 00:43:00,251 Five distraught parents before a media-packed courtroom, if not a jury. 878 00:43:02,579 --> 00:43:05,822 This might be a good time for another risk-reward analysis. 879 00:43:07,918 --> 00:43:09,829 Forget it. This is blackmail. 880 00:43:09,887 --> 00:43:12,197 Let's at least hear them out. 881 00:43:12,256 --> 00:43:14,236 I am not going to jail. 882 00:43:14,291 --> 00:43:17,067 Jail's not the only thing you have to worry about, Bill. 883 00:43:17,761 --> 00:43:21,299 Well, if you're talking about publicity, AgriStar can spin this. 884 00:43:21,365 --> 00:43:25,438 There's no way you can spin five distraught parents, Mr. Talbot. 885 00:43:31,308 --> 00:43:33,151 (WHISPERING) 886 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:40,319 (SOFTLY) Don't forget about your family. 887 00:43:41,385 --> 00:43:43,365 (INAUDIBLE) 888 00:43:55,732 --> 00:43:58,679 I assume you'll allow him to allocute in chambers? 889 00:43:58,936 --> 00:44:00,643 I'll talk to my boss. 890 00:44:13,617 --> 00:44:16,496 Criminally negligent homicide. Two years for each child. 891 00:44:16,553 --> 00:44:19,261 And 10 times that in the court of public opinion. 892 00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:21,428 Then why'd you let him plead guilty in chambers? 893 00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:23,403 Board rooms have great acoustics. 894 00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:26,703 Believe me, the people I was talking to heard us loud and clear. 895 00:44:27,364 --> 00:44:30,971 Talbot's own board wasted no time distancing themselves from him. 896 00:44:31,468 --> 00:44:34,415 Now he'll find out what it's like at the bottom of the food chain. 897 00:44:34,465 --> 00:44:39,015 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 73160

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