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NARRATOR:
In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented
by two separate yet equally important groups,
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the police
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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You set the alarm?
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Every night.
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Doesn't hurt to ask.
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Do I ever forget?
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Twice.
Twice you forgot.
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Oh, twice in 15 years,
and you never let me forget it.
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Hey! Maniac!
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(GLASS SHATTERING)
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You got your cell phone?
Call 911.
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WOMAN: Oh, my God,
that new building!
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FIREMAN: Fire started
near the elevator, spread down the hall.
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Place went up
like a Roman candle.
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Miss Crispy Crunch,
we found in one of the back bedrooms.
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Crispy Crunch?
You think that's funny?
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Excuse me, Mr. Sensitive.
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Male or female?
Female.
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Any idea
what was she doing in the building?
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That's not
my area of expertise.
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Thought is,
she probably got trapped back there somehow.
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Well, what about
the windows?
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Burglar bars,
no safety release.
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Isn't that illegal?
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Yeah, so is arson.
We'll write the contractor a citation.
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Yeah, but since
the building was still under construction?
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Slap on the wrist.
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Well, it's good
it didn't spread to any other buildings.
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My guys got here quick.
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Are you sure it's arson?
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Are you sure she's dead?
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Okay, thanks.
We'll be in touch.
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Hey!
The accelerant, what'd they use?
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My nose tells me
good old-fashioned regular unleaded.
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Why spring for premium
when regular'll do?
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Point of origin was
the ground floor hallway.
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We found beads of an
orange plastic material.
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What do you
make of them?
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Probably the container
that held the accelerant.
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ED: Any significance
to where it started?
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Well, whoever set it
wasn't an expert.
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Simple splash down,
but the spot was chosen carefully.
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ED: What do you mean,
"chosen"?
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It's center of the building,
setting the fire there
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is the best way to contain it,
prevent collateral damage.
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Plus, it creates the
fastest route of escape,
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easiest access
for firefighters.
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Thoughtful arsonist.
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Still, not exactly
covering your tracks.
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Well, he certainly wasn't
trying to make it look like an accident.
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I'm thinking more like
maximum damage in a minimum amount of time.
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Why did you say "he"?
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Statistically, arson is
predominantly a crime committed by men.
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But in this case,
I had another clue.
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BRISCOE: What was that?
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The female body they found?
She was naked.
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Naked? What
are we talking about?
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Twenty-five to 30-year-old
female, Caucasian.
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Rape-arson?
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M.E.'s preliminary
lists cause of death as smoke inhalation.
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She was alive.
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Yeah, but Forensics
says her earrings were across the room.
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ED: With whatever was left
of her clothes.
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So, what,
Jane Doe breaks into a half-finished apartment,
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takes off her earrings,
folds her clothes,
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alone?
That's a little odd.
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Any indication
of violence?
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The body was
too badly burned.
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Missing Persons
still working on an ID.
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So if it wasn't rape-arson,
it's murder-arson.
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Unless the fire bug
didn't know she was there.
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Then it's just more
than he bargained for.
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A list of people
who had access to the site after hours.
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Any on-site guards?
Not until midnight.
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What about cameras?
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Hadn't been activated yet.
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We're waiting for
the tenants to move in.
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Come on, Lennie,
a tape of people coming and going.
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You know that would've
been too easy.
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I guess I'm getting
lazy in my old age.
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So, when were the tenants
scheduled to arrive?
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Not for
a couple of months.
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They still had
some punch list items that needed attending to.
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ED: Like the burglar alarm?
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That was already installed.
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Well, who on this list
might've known the code?
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Last but not least, right?
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I mean, you figure
something like this happens,
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you're gonna question
the master electrician sooner or later.
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So you did
all the wiring?
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The way I hear it,
wiring has nothing to do with this fire.
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BRISCOE: Oh, is that
what you heard?
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What I hear is that somebody
was playing with matches without any clothes on.
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Any news about
who she might have been playing with?
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No.
ED: So, how'd she get in?
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I mean,
the burglar alarms were installed properly, right?
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I tested 'em myself.
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When?
A week, week and a half ago.
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ED: So what happened?
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Obviously, somebody
turned 'em off.
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Yeah, that's exactly
what we were thinking.
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Question is, "Who?"
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Yeah, you could see
how your name might come to mind.
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You guys think I'd set
a fire using gasoline?
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There's a lot of ways
something like this can be done.
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So, you put
some thought into this.
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Let's just say somebody
setting a fire on that job,
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it wasn't a big surprise.
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BRISCOE: What does that mean?
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Landlord lightning,
that's why God invented insurance companies.
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It strikes somewhere
every five minutes.
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First time
the paychecks were late,
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we made book on
when it would hit.
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How many other developers
build affordable housing for working people?
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I don't know, how many?
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One bedroom,
Pullman kitchen,
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2,200 a month.
You call that affordable?
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KELLNER: In this city.
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It's a mugging
with a cappuccino.
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Well, maybe in Nyack
or wherever,
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but on the Upper West Side,
2,200's a pretty good deal.
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And I got bills to pay.
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Which, apparently,
you don't always pay.
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Look, are you accusing me
of something, Detective?
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Because if you are,
I will phone my attorney... Easy.
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Just trying to get
the lay of the land.
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Last month,
we had a cash crunch.
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It was a temporary situation.
Doesn't make me an arsonist.
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Every time
I think of that girl...
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Look, I build, I don't burn.
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Especially not after
what I went through getting approval for that place.
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What was the problem?
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Neighborhood didn't
like me building over a community garden.
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Yeah, I read about that.
Giuliani sold off city-owned lots.
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Yeah, that property paid
no real estate taxes at all,
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but you know New Yorkers.
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Against it,
no matter what it is. On principle.
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That's why you included
the low-income housing,
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to get past the
community board?
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It helped.
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Couldn't have helped
your profit margin much.
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Look, in the first place,
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I burn this building down,
the approval process only gets more brutal the next time.
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BRISCOE: And
in the second place?
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My insurance policy sucked.
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The builder came up short
a couple of times, couldn't make the payroll.
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According to a broker,
he's been trying to flip the property, unsuccessfully.
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Neighborhood activists
gave him a hard time.
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Yeah, they wanted to
raise carrots. He wanted to raise money.
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So, you think
the long fuse reaches back to his office?
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The guy was just trying
to make ends meet,
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but the insurance money
wasn't there.
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And everyone who had access
to the site after hours?
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Has an alibi.
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Well, the arson report says
the service entrance and back entrance of the site
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were locked and
the alarms were set.
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Yeah, no sign of B and E
through any of the windows or from the roof.
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So whoever
set the torch...
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Probably snuck in
during the day,
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hid out in the basement
until closing time,
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lit up the joint,
and then made it out through the lobby doors.
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Or beat the system.
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Hey, Missing Persons.
Female Caucasian.
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Right age, right height.
Parents are from out of town,
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they reported
their daughter missing a few days ago.
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We're gonna have to do
dental records or DNA for a positive ID.
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Well, make sure
you've got that before you talk to them.
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The last thing I want is
to tell the wrong people
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their daughter
burned to death in a fire.
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But she lived here alone?
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No one else on the lease.
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She have a boyfriend?
I wouldn't know.
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It's not a doorman building.
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(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS)
Hi. It's Mom. It's about 7:00.
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Dad and I will be up
till 10:00 or so. Love you.
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Breakfast dishes
in the sink. Oh, that's her.
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Hey, Ed, remember those
earrings they found?
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(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS)
Melanie. It's Mom. Are you there?
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I'm home.
Call us whenever.
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Bed's made.
No sign of struggle.
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(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS)
Melanie, please, call me as soon as you get this.
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I tried you at the school,
but none of the other teachers had seen you.
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Dad and I are
very worried, honey.
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It wasn't like Melanie
to just not show up.
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She's a really
dedicated teacher.
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How long
have you known her?
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About two years.
Our classrooms are next to each other.
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Is there any place
she might go?
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Somebody she might be
staying with?
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You mean, is she
with someone?
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I don't think so.
Not seriously.
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What about casually?
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Melanie's not like that.
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There was this one guy
she had crush on.
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He used to come by
sometimes after work.
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I don't think
she really wanted to advertise it, though.
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BRISCOE: Why's that?
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He's a student's father.
A boy in the fifth grade, I think.
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You know his name?
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His first name's Eric.
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I met him once.
You could probably get the last name in the office.
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How often did this Eric
come around?
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Every couple of weeks,
I guess.
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BRISCOE: When's the
last time you saw him?
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Actually, the day
she disappeared. About 5:00.
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Thank you.
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Careful. That's
a hand-inked reproduction.
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First issue.
I got it off eBay. How it all started.
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How what all started?
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X-Men. Hmm,
you never read these.
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Afraid I'm gonna have to
sell this to put my kid through college one day.
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Uh, can we get back to
talking about Melanie Fried, Mr. Shollar?
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Uh, yeah, sure.
BRISCOE: So, you did know her?
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Yeah. Just to say hi.
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My kid goes to PS260,
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so I'd see her at drop-off
sometimes, you know. Stuff like that.
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What about after school?
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After school?
Yeah.
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You know,
say around 5:00.
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I don't know.
I'm usually working around 5:00.
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Can I get either of you
some coffee? Tea, maybe?
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No, thanks, we're fine.
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Uh, Mr. Shollar,
what kind of work do you do?
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I do construction.
Dry walling, plastering.
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You ever do any work
for Kellner Construction?
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Eric just finished
a job for Kellner not two weeks ago.
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Is that right?
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Yeah.
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You didn't happen to
work on the building that burned down, did you?
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MRS. SHOLLAR: As a matter
of fact, he did.
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Is that what
this is all about?
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Mr. Shollar,
maybe it'd be better if we talked to you downtown.
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You know, we can show
you some pictures, maybe jog your memory.
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Yeah, maybe that
would be better.
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Jog his memory
about who?
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A woman died in the fire.
We're just trying to get an ID.
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00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:21,364
ERIC: Yeah, I'm just
gonna take a look.
241
00:10:21,554 --> 00:10:22,965
Probably never even
seen her before.
242
00:10:23,023 --> 00:10:25,401
ED: We'll have him back home
in a couple of hours.
243
00:10:25,458 --> 00:10:27,096
Keep him
as long as you like.
244
00:10:33,466 --> 00:10:37,209
One of the teachers
in Melanie's school saw you pick her up that day.
245
00:10:37,270 --> 00:10:40,114
And Kellner confirmed
that they gave you a key to the place.
246
00:10:40,173 --> 00:10:42,676
A key you never
returned, Eric.
247
00:10:42,742 --> 00:10:44,915
You sure you didn't
take her to the site that night, Eric,
248
00:10:44,978 --> 00:10:46,321
maybe show her
some of your handiwork?
249
00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:48,222
How good you are
with spackle?
250
00:10:48,281 --> 00:10:50,261
Come on, man.
We got a witness who saw
251
00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:53,559
somebody fitting
your description running from the building.
252
00:10:55,188 --> 00:10:58,431
Her parents need to know
if it's their daughter for sure.
253
00:10:58,925 --> 00:11:00,370
Look, I don't want to
screw up my marriage.
254
00:11:00,427 --> 00:11:01,735
If my wife
finds out that I...
255
00:11:01,795 --> 00:11:04,708
What?
That you slept with her, or that you killed her?
256
00:11:04,764 --> 00:11:05,902
All I did
was take her there.
257
00:11:05,965 --> 00:11:07,444
ED: And what happened?
258
00:11:08,201 --> 00:11:10,704
We would flirt
at the school.
259
00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:13,350
I'd see her in
the morning sometimes when I dropped my kid off.
260
00:11:13,406 --> 00:11:14,783
BRISCOE: And
what about that day?
261
00:11:15,241 --> 00:11:16,686
I saw her that morning.
262
00:11:16,976 --> 00:11:19,582
She mentioned before
how she was thinking about getting a bigger place.
263
00:11:19,646 --> 00:11:22,991
I told her about the place
I'm working at and offered to show her around.
264
00:11:23,917 --> 00:11:26,625
Anyway, we're alone,
one thing leads to the next,
265
00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:27,960
and pretty soon
I got her clothes off.
266
00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:29,796
Wait. What part of
the building was this?
267
00:11:29,856 --> 00:11:31,631
Uh, one of the apartments.
268
00:11:31,891 --> 00:11:33,996
They had just
put the carpet down.
269
00:11:34,060 --> 00:11:36,563
Anyway, that's when I realized
I didn't have any condoms,
270
00:11:36,629 --> 00:11:38,404
so I ran to the store
to get some.
271
00:11:38,798 --> 00:11:40,869
Safe sex,
very responsible.
272
00:11:40,934 --> 00:11:43,642
Look, I wasn't gone
10 minutes. I come back, the building's on fire.
273
00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:45,046
So you ran away?
274
00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:47,551
I couldn't get back in.
The fire was in the hallway.
275
00:11:47,607 --> 00:11:48,847
I tried to call 911.
276
00:11:48,908 --> 00:11:50,979
What do you mean,
you tried to call 911?
277
00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:52,648
At the pay phone
on the corner.
278
00:11:53,113 --> 00:11:55,320
There was a girl on the phone.
She said she already called.
279
00:11:55,381 --> 00:11:57,122
What did this girl
look like?
280
00:11:58,017 --> 00:12:01,430
Uh, blonde, ponytail,
blue ski hat, jeans.
281
00:12:02,288 --> 00:12:03,767
Anything else?
282
00:12:04,524 --> 00:12:06,094
Height, weight, age?
283
00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:07,536
Would you recognize her
if you saw her again?
284
00:12:07,594 --> 00:12:08,732
I might. I don't know.
285
00:12:08,795 --> 00:12:11,435
But you didn't stick around
to see how Melanie was.
286
00:12:13,666 --> 00:12:15,771
I got nervous
when I heard the sirens.
287
00:12:16,436 --> 00:12:17,506
I figured she'd be okay.
288
00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:19,072
You figured wrong.
289
00:12:21,941 --> 00:12:23,045
You gonna tell my wife?
290
00:12:23,109 --> 00:12:25,817
Oh, trust me, pal.
She already knows.
291
00:12:28,848 --> 00:12:30,850
The drugstore manager
ID'd Shollar.
292
00:12:30,917 --> 00:12:32,988
Said he ran in and
bought a pack of condoms.
293
00:12:33,052 --> 00:12:35,054
Like he had a hot date.
His words.
294
00:12:35,121 --> 00:12:36,794
They see anyone
at the pay phone?
295
00:12:36,856 --> 00:12:39,564
Not a soul.
No Shollar, no ponytail.
296
00:12:39,626 --> 00:12:41,628
So, we can't confirm
Shollar's story.
297
00:12:41,694 --> 00:12:44,834
That he wanted to call 911?
Maybe he wanted to.
298
00:12:44,898 --> 00:12:46,673
But according to the IUDs,
nobody did.
299
00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:48,041
But at about the same time,
300
00:12:48,101 --> 00:12:51,139
there was a three-minute call
from that phone to a number in Inwood.
301
00:12:51,204 --> 00:12:53,115
Yeah,
a Mr. Kent Quigley.
302
00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,511
All right.
You know the drill. Talk to this Quigley
303
00:12:55,575 --> 00:12:57,418
see if we can't
find the girl.
304
00:12:57,477 --> 00:13:00,947
Maybe Shollar'll get lucky
and get a little backup for his story,
305
00:13:01,014 --> 00:13:03,995
or maybe we'll get
a little lucky and come up with a material witness
306
00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:06,496
to testify against
this son of a bitch.
307
00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:13,036
Last Monday?
A phone call?
308
00:13:13,092 --> 00:13:14,730
Yeah, around 8:00 p.m.
309
00:13:15,028 --> 00:13:17,531
I don't really remember.
I get a lot of phone calls.
310
00:13:17,597 --> 00:13:18,940
Do you remember all
the phone calls you get?
311
00:13:18,998 --> 00:13:20,375
ED: It was from a pay phone.
312
00:13:20,767 --> 00:13:22,974
How would I know that?
You got caller ID.
313
00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:26,306
Monday night,
I'm not even sure I was home from work by then.
314
00:13:26,372 --> 00:13:28,010
Look, you're a little slow
on the pick-up, man.
315
00:13:28,074 --> 00:13:29,644
Somebody answered
the phone.
316
00:13:30,076 --> 00:13:31,384
Maybe it was
a wrong number.
317
00:13:31,778 --> 00:13:33,849
Do you remember
getting a wrong number?
318
00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,616
Yeah. I think I do.
319
00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:41,162
Who was it from?
Man, woman, young, old?
320
00:13:42,121 --> 00:13:44,965
A man. Old. Older.
321
00:13:46,125 --> 00:13:47,661
What'd you talk about?
322
00:13:47,727 --> 00:13:48,933
Nothing, you know.
323
00:13:48,995 --> 00:13:51,271
Nobody here by that name.
He misdialed.
324
00:13:51,331 --> 00:13:54,210
Phone records
indicate the call lasted almost three minutes.
325
00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:55,746
Maybe I didn't hang it up
right or something.
326
00:13:55,802 --> 00:13:57,372
ED: You live alone?
Yes.
327
00:13:58,037 --> 00:13:59,744
You having your period,
Mr. Quigley?
328
00:13:59,806 --> 00:14:01,649
I told you all I know.
329
00:14:02,275 --> 00:14:04,414
I think you guys
should just leave.
330
00:14:04,611 --> 00:14:07,592
Well, thanks, Mr. Quigley,
you've really been a tremendous help.
331
00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:12,296
How many blonde ponytails
call this guy, you think?
332
00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:14,059
Not so often
you wouldn't remember.
333
00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:16,496
Didn't hang up
right, my ass.
334
00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:19,367
Excuse me.
335
00:14:19,726 --> 00:14:20,932
Hey, how
you doing, man?
336
00:14:20,994 --> 00:14:22,496
Do you know
the tenant in 3B?
337
00:14:22,562 --> 00:14:26,339
Quigley? Yeah, sure.
Real quiet guy. Why, what'd he do?
338
00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:28,810
Well, actually,
we're trying to locate a young lady.
339
00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,677
Uh, blonde, ponytail...
340
00:14:30,737 --> 00:14:32,045
She might've had on
a ski cap.
341
00:14:32,105 --> 00:14:35,814
Recently, right?
I thought she might be family or something.
342
00:14:36,342 --> 00:14:37,821
ED: Why do you say that?
She had a key.
343
00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:40,422
Came and went.
Only here a few days through.
344
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,960
Her and two other guys.
Visiting, it seemed to me.
345
00:14:43,216 --> 00:14:44,923
What'd these two
other guys look like?
346
00:14:44,984 --> 00:14:46,895
SUPER: You know, kids.
Nothing special.
347
00:14:46,953 --> 00:14:48,489
When was the last time
you saw 'em?
348
00:14:48,555 --> 00:14:50,364
Maybe a day or so ago.
349
00:14:50,423 --> 00:14:52,369
They, uh, left real early
in the morning.
350
00:14:52,425 --> 00:14:54,098
They had backpacks
and such.
351
00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:55,965
Hey, do you know
where Quigley works?
352
00:14:56,029 --> 00:14:58,202
Food co-op on 116th Street.
353
00:14:58,965 --> 00:15:00,569
It's always
the quiet guys, huh?
354
00:15:01,935 --> 00:15:04,142
Monday?
Kent was here all day.
355
00:15:04,203 --> 00:15:05,375
What time did he leave?
356
00:15:05,438 --> 00:15:07,679
Around 6:30.
We walked out together.
357
00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:09,151
That leaves enough time.
358
00:15:09,208 --> 00:15:10,516
Enough time for what?
359
00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:14,483
Did you ever see him
with a blonde, ponytail, in her 20s?
360
00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:16,185
Kent?
361
00:15:16,316 --> 00:15:17,989
Why, Quigley doesn't
date women?
362
00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:19,792
Kent doesn't date, period.
363
00:15:19,852 --> 00:15:21,525
Hey, you ever see Kent
with a date?
364
00:15:22,021 --> 00:15:23,227
There's a concept.
365
00:15:23,289 --> 00:15:24,893
Kent's too wrapped up
in his work.
366
00:15:25,224 --> 00:15:26,999
What? Here?
Bagging barley?
367
00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:28,164
His causes.
368
00:15:28,227 --> 00:15:30,104
What causes
would these be?
369
00:15:30,163 --> 00:15:32,769
Environment.
Kent's pretty intense.
370
00:15:32,832 --> 00:15:35,005
Wait. What about
that woman last week?
371
00:15:35,068 --> 00:15:37,844
They said a date.
She came here with two other guys.
372
00:15:37,904 --> 00:15:39,042
What woman is this?
373
00:15:39,105 --> 00:15:41,608
Oh, they stopped by,
I don't know, around 3:00, 4:00 in the afternoon,
374
00:15:41,674 --> 00:15:44,052
looking for Kent.
But that was Thursday.
375
00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:45,713
BRISCOE: Friends of his?
376
00:15:45,812 --> 00:15:47,450
Actually, now that
you mention it,
377
00:15:47,513 --> 00:15:49,390
it didn't seem like
they even really knew each other.
378
00:15:49,515 --> 00:15:50,858
That's why I didn't
think of it right off.
379
00:15:52,185 --> 00:15:55,860
Quigley, Kent.
Date of birth 3-21-76.
380
00:15:55,922 --> 00:15:58,095
Cohoes, New York.
It's up near Albany.
381
00:15:58,157 --> 00:16:00,228
Let me guess.
Some penny-ante priors.
382
00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:02,773
Two speeding tickets,
jaywalking,
383
00:16:02,829 --> 00:16:05,901
and throwing paint
on some rich lady's fur in Chappaqua.
384
00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:08,707
Close. One speeding ticket,
Columbia county.
385
00:16:08,768 --> 00:16:11,180
Columbia county,
everybody gets speeding tickets.
386
00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:13,545
How else do they pay
for the roads to get plowed in the winter?
387
00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,021
And a disorderly beef
a year ago at, uh,
388
00:16:17,076 --> 00:16:20,216
you're so good at guessing,
Dionne Warwick, you tell me where.
389
00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:23,658
Community gardens protest
against Kellner Real Estate.
390
00:16:23,716 --> 00:16:25,252
Credit cards
off the subpoena,
391
00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:27,025
10 bucks
at a convenience store,
392
00:16:27,086 --> 00:16:29,464
20 bucks for Chinese takeout,
and ready for this?
393
00:16:29,522 --> 00:16:34,733
Day of the fire,
1:55 p.m., 12 bucks from a gas station in the Bronx.
394
00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:36,703
A, I thought he was
at work all day,
395
00:16:36,763 --> 00:16:41,109
and B, I'll give you odds
our Mr. Greenjeans doesn't even own a car.
396
00:16:44,871 --> 00:16:46,316
MANAGER: You said
Monday afternoon?
397
00:16:46,372 --> 00:16:49,285
Yeah. Around 2:00.
How often do you tape over these things?
398
00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:50,446
Every two weeks.
399
00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:51,580
We're supposed to
hold them for a month,
400
00:16:51,644 --> 00:16:53,055
but I got better things
to spend money on.
401
00:16:53,212 --> 00:16:56,989
Hey, credit authorization
was for 1:55 p.m., so this should be it.
402
00:17:02,488 --> 00:17:04,161
Here's a guy that knows
what he's looking for.
403
00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:09,137
You remember
anything they said?
404
00:17:09,195 --> 00:17:10,401
Sorry.
405
00:17:10,463 --> 00:17:12,374
How about if they had
a girl with them?
406
00:17:12,432 --> 00:17:15,038
Five days ago?
Couldn't tell you who was here five minutes ago.
407
00:17:15,334 --> 00:17:17,780
Lennie, you remember
those orange plastic beads?
408
00:17:17,837 --> 00:17:19,475
Melt this down,
I bet you get a match.
409
00:17:19,972 --> 00:17:22,316
Wait, there she is
By the door.
410
00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:24,817
ED: Ski cap, ponytail.
411
00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:27,754
We get somebody
at the food co-op to ID these jokers,
412
00:17:27,814 --> 00:17:29,088
we got enough
for a warrant.
413
00:17:29,148 --> 00:17:30,650
We're gonna
need this tape.
414
00:17:31,184 --> 00:17:33,221
I lost my credit card.
Did you report it?
415
00:17:33,286 --> 00:17:34,560
I figured
it would turn up.
416
00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:36,964
Why would I be buying gas?
I don't even own a car.
417
00:17:37,023 --> 00:17:38,696
You know, that's
exactly what we said.
418
00:17:38,758 --> 00:17:41,637
The gas station
security camera taped two kids using your card.
419
00:17:41,694 --> 00:17:44,436
Then I suppose
I'm not responsible for the charges, am I?
420
00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:49,079
Well, look at this.
Hey, Lennie. Lost in plain sight.
421
00:17:49,702 --> 00:17:51,739
BRISCOE: "Greens builders
square off.
422
00:17:52,472 --> 00:17:54,645
"West Side Garden no Eden.
423
00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:58,154
"Five arrested
in garden protest."
424
00:17:58,678 --> 00:18:00,658
Now, this garden
wouldn't happen to be the lot
425
00:18:00,713 --> 00:18:02,590
where they put up
that building that was torched, would it?
426
00:18:02,648 --> 00:18:03,820
I wouldn't know
anything about that.
427
00:18:03,883 --> 00:18:06,193
Do you always keep
clippings of things you don't know anything about?
428
00:18:06,252 --> 00:18:07,322
And that lot wasn't empty.
429
00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:09,457
It was a community garden
that had been lovingly maintained
430
00:18:09,522 --> 00:18:11,763
by the people
of that neighborhood for over 20 years!
431
00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:13,030
ED: It was bought
by Kellner Real Estate.
432
00:18:13,092 --> 00:18:15,538
It was public land,
the city had no right to sell it.
433
00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:19,339
ED: Now, what would
you be doing with a disassembled alarm system?
434
00:18:19,832 --> 00:18:21,778
You want to
give me odds that it matches the system
435
00:18:21,834 --> 00:18:23,814
in that building
you don't know anything about?
436
00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:26,379
You been doing
a little homework on how to bypass alarms?
437
00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:27,577
You're under arrest,
438
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,244
but I guess
you wouldn't know anything about that either.
439
00:18:29,308 --> 00:18:30,981
We are losing
our wetlands, our wilderness.
440
00:18:31,043 --> 00:18:32,545
Every day,
we are paving over nature.
441
00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:33,920
Oh, you think
Manhattan's a wasteland?
442
00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:35,618
Wait until you see
Rikers Island.
443
00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,225
Three people,
two male, one female,
444
00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:42,698
used Quigley's credit card
at the gas station.
445
00:18:42,822 --> 00:18:44,995
We're sure it's the same girl
from the pay phone?
446
00:18:45,091 --> 00:18:48,038
The victim's boyfriend
positively ID'd her from the gas station video.
447
00:18:48,861 --> 00:18:50,135
What's their connection
to Quigley?
448
00:18:50,196 --> 00:18:51,300
We don't know that yet.
449
00:18:51,364 --> 00:18:53,901
But a co-worker says
that the three stopped by the food co-op last week,
450
00:18:53,966 --> 00:18:55,912
and the super confirms
that they were staying with him.
451
00:18:56,035 --> 00:18:57,981
Which probably means
they're from out of town.
452
00:18:58,037 --> 00:19:00,074
How close are we
to identifying them?
453
00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:01,709
Quigley hasn't
given up any names.
454
00:19:02,241 --> 00:19:04,278
He's prepared to take
the fall for this alone?
455
00:19:04,343 --> 00:19:06,289
Well, the guy sees himself
as some kind of martyr.
456
00:19:07,580 --> 00:19:10,220
Easy to do when
you're not looking through the eyes of your victim.
457
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,595
Are we checking
the connection between
458
00:19:12,652 --> 00:19:15,064
the fire and
the original protest at the building site?
459
00:19:15,254 --> 00:19:17,063
I'm going down
to the community board today.
460
00:19:17,423 --> 00:19:20,165
When we do find them,
arson, murder two.
461
00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:27,341
I'm not saying the mayor
shouldn't have unloaded the community garden.
462
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,142
The city sold 30,
maybe 40 empty lots
463
00:19:30,203 --> 00:19:31,739
over a four-year period.
464
00:19:31,804 --> 00:19:33,306
Most of them
abandoned.
465
00:19:33,739 --> 00:19:35,275
People objected, though.
466
00:19:35,341 --> 00:19:37,582
Tough call.
A community garden,
467
00:19:37,643 --> 00:19:40,590
or another
apartment building? Which would you rather have?
468
00:19:41,114 --> 00:19:43,526
Ah, God knows,
the city can use the revenue.
469
00:19:43,783 --> 00:19:46,787
And no one's objecting
to more rental units.
470
00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:49,265
Especially since
the developer negotiated
471
00:19:49,322 --> 00:19:51,233
a set-aside for
low-income families.
472
00:19:51,324 --> 00:19:53,270
Were there any hearings,
any kind of forum?
473
00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:55,334
Where you can get
a transcript?
474
00:19:55,394 --> 00:19:57,874
Find out who objected
to the development?
475
00:19:58,264 --> 00:20:00,642
This isn't a First Amendment
issue, it's a murder case.
476
00:20:03,069 --> 00:20:05,379
No. There was
nothing official.
477
00:20:05,505 --> 00:20:07,507
Newspapers...
I've gone through the press coverage.
478
00:20:08,441 --> 00:20:11,012
If I have to come back
with a subpoena, I will, Ms. Malone.
479
00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:15,721
There was no transcript.
480
00:20:15,781 --> 00:20:17,761
But I saved the flyers.
481
00:20:18,951 --> 00:20:22,694
Just in case we ever
have to reach out to some of the protest groups.
482
00:20:22,755 --> 00:20:25,133
Which we do,
on a regular basis.
483
00:20:25,191 --> 00:20:27,797
Always something
to get up in arms about, huh?
484
00:20:31,397 --> 00:20:33,809
Two dozen different flyers.
Three dozen different groups.
485
00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:36,613
Ah, the Left.
Two people, three opinions.
486
00:20:36,702 --> 00:20:38,943
(CHUCKLES)
Most of the groups were pretty ad-hoc.
487
00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,641
Phones have been
disconnected.
488
00:20:40,706 --> 00:20:41,776
What about the websites?
489
00:20:41,841 --> 00:20:43,946
Two are still online,
one's a local democratic club.
490
00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:46,383
Well, I've been burned
by them, but arsonists?
491
00:20:46,846 --> 00:20:48,917
The other group
calls itself "Coyote."
492
00:20:48,981 --> 00:20:51,154
Usual villains, NAFTA,
the World Bank.
493
00:20:51,217 --> 00:20:52,992
NAFTA? How do you
get from that
494
00:20:53,052 --> 00:20:54,793
to burning down
a building in Manhattan?
495
00:20:54,854 --> 00:20:56,231
"Save the community gardens.
496
00:20:56,289 --> 00:20:58,496
"Stop the rape
of our environment."
497
00:20:58,558 --> 00:21:01,937
Well, I guess a garden
is as close as we come to nature around here, huh?
498
00:21:02,061 --> 00:21:03,597
"Come up with your own plan."
499
00:21:04,196 --> 00:21:06,802
You know, I have a friend
on a special task force at the Bureau,
500
00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:08,243
see what he can
tell you about them.
501
00:21:10,803 --> 00:21:15,115
Coyote first
surfaced in Seattle at these WTO protests.
502
00:21:15,174 --> 00:21:18,383
Until recently, they were
pretty much a Pacific Northwest operation.
503
00:21:19,645 --> 00:21:20,988
Most of them
look like kids.
504
00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:23,150
Yeah. We're not talking
FBI's most wanted.
505
00:21:23,215 --> 00:21:26,788
Still, they have done
a substantial amount of property damage.
506
00:21:27,353 --> 00:21:30,334
$14 million arson
at a Utah ski resort.
507
00:21:30,856 --> 00:21:33,427
Two million dollars' worth
at an Idaho lumber mill.
508
00:21:33,492 --> 00:21:37,531
So far, we've attributed
over $50 million damage to them nationally.
509
00:21:37,597 --> 00:21:39,133
What's their record
on violence?
510
00:21:39,532 --> 00:21:41,478
They've been
very careful about that.
511
00:21:42,368 --> 00:21:45,508
You set fires,
there's gonna be a fatality sooner or later.
512
00:21:46,439 --> 00:21:49,443
I'm surprised the FBI
hasn't done more to prosecute them.
513
00:21:49,508 --> 00:21:50,885
You understand
the people I work for,
514
00:21:50,943 --> 00:21:53,423
they're used to a certain
leadership structure.
515
00:21:53,479 --> 00:21:55,015
FBI likes to see
a group like this
516
00:21:55,081 --> 00:21:56,560
on a nice, little flow chart.
517
00:21:56,716 --> 00:21:58,195
That way,
we line our ducks up.
518
00:21:58,250 --> 00:22:00,230
Only these people
aren't organized that way.
519
00:22:00,386 --> 00:22:02,332
TROST: These people are
not organized at all.
520
00:22:02,388 --> 00:22:06,029
Basically, these kids
jump in a car, hop on a bus, a train,
521
00:22:06,092 --> 00:22:08,003
burn something down
and leave.
522
00:22:08,060 --> 00:22:10,472
Says here they've been quick
to claim responsibility.
523
00:22:10,763 --> 00:22:14,176
A lack of any statement
would seem to be at odds with their MO.
524
00:22:14,233 --> 00:22:16,873
Well, maybe the girl's
death explains why they haven't taken credit.
525
00:22:17,203 --> 00:22:20,082
Well, the profile's
young, affluent.
526
00:22:20,139 --> 00:22:21,880
Dead girl
could hurt recruitment.
527
00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:24,013
How do they claim credit?
528
00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:25,783
On a website.
Run by who?
529
00:22:26,245 --> 00:22:28,589
An organic farmer
in upstate New York.
530
00:22:30,483 --> 00:22:31,826
Paul Rochet.
531
00:22:32,952 --> 00:22:34,522
He's been
subpoenaed before.
532
00:22:34,587 --> 00:22:37,727
Oh, we've dragged
Mr. Rochet in front of a dozen Grand Juries.
533
00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,295
Claims he doesn't know
anyone in the movement.
534
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,669
Simply posts information
on a website.
535
00:22:42,795 --> 00:22:44,468
And lets the Internet
do the rest.
536
00:22:44,897 --> 00:22:46,535
TROST: Certainly
provides distance.
537
00:22:46,632 --> 00:22:48,908
What about the faces
from the gas station video?
538
00:22:48,968 --> 00:22:50,811
The local database
came up empty.
539
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:52,781
We're running them national
as we speak.
540
00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:58,285
TECH: The photo recognition
system's the same one used at airports and on the Chunnel.
541
00:22:58,344 --> 00:22:59,482
You know, between
London and Paris.
542
00:23:00,246 --> 00:23:02,248
And at the Superbowl.
I read about it in Newsweek.
543
00:23:02,314 --> 00:23:03,486
What's your database?
544
00:23:03,549 --> 00:23:06,155
Right now, it's mostly
criminal records and DMV.
545
00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:09,131
Eventually, we'll get
the ATM cameras, department stores...
546
00:23:09,522 --> 00:23:11,934
You know how many hotels
have surveillance? How many malls?
547
00:23:12,258 --> 00:23:13,737
Makes me want
to wear a mask.
548
00:23:13,793 --> 00:23:14,794
Wouldn't do any good.
549
00:23:14,860 --> 00:23:17,864
Infrared, thermo...
Masks, clothes, we see right through.
550
00:23:18,364 --> 00:23:20,901
You'd think more
people would object, but nobody bats an eye.
551
00:23:22,001 --> 00:23:25,005
Here we go. See?
She's in the databank.
552
00:23:25,871 --> 00:23:28,078
Just like the rest
of America pretty soon.
553
00:23:31,377 --> 00:23:33,789
Emily Hoyt, 18.
Pullman, Washington.
554
00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:35,689
Freshman at
Washington State University.
555
00:23:35,781 --> 00:23:37,021
Not anymore.
She dropped out.
556
00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:39,427
Arrested protesting
the WTO in Seattle.
557
00:23:39,485 --> 00:23:40,555
Do we know
where she is?
558
00:23:40,619 --> 00:23:41,723
I spoke with her parents
in Washington.
559
00:23:41,787 --> 00:23:43,926
They say she was traveling
to New York with friends.
560
00:23:43,989 --> 00:23:45,297
Did she tell them with who?
561
00:23:45,357 --> 00:23:48,804
She didn't give any names
Just a number where she could be reached.
562
00:23:49,929 --> 00:23:51,499
I never heard of
any Emily Hoyt.
563
00:23:52,231 --> 00:23:55,610
She gave her parents
your phone number, Mr. Quigley.
564
00:23:55,668 --> 00:23:57,079
Her father is very sick.
565
00:23:57,136 --> 00:23:59,047
She wanted to keep in touch.
They haven't heard from her.
566
00:23:59,171 --> 00:24:01,515
These are serious
charges.
567
00:24:01,574 --> 00:24:03,451
Arson,
second-degree murder.
568
00:24:03,509 --> 00:24:05,682
Fifteen years, minimum.
15 years?
569
00:24:06,312 --> 00:24:09,850
If you won't help us
find the people who set this fire,
570
00:24:09,915 --> 00:24:11,861
I'll have no choice
but to hold you responsible.
571
00:24:13,819 --> 00:24:15,025
What are we talking about?
572
00:24:15,087 --> 00:24:18,660
If we make an arrest
pursuant to your client's information,
573
00:24:18,758 --> 00:24:21,705
I'd be willing to reduce
the top charge from murder two to man one.
574
00:24:21,761 --> 00:24:22,762
He'd serve five years.
575
00:24:23,395 --> 00:24:24,533
Five years?
576
00:24:24,597 --> 00:24:27,510
You entered a conspiracy,
Mr. Quigley.
577
00:24:27,867 --> 00:24:30,575
A conspiracy that cost
a young woman's life.
578
00:24:30,836 --> 00:24:32,179
We were just trying
to make a statement.
579
00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:36,183
Nobody was
supposed to get hurt.
580
00:24:36,408 --> 00:24:38,217
Yes or no, Mr. Geary?
581
00:24:54,593 --> 00:24:56,800
I met Emily online.
582
00:25:00,299 --> 00:25:06,113
We wrote back and forth
about a lot of things. Mostly politics.
583
00:25:06,772 --> 00:25:08,649
Environmental justice,
things like that.
584
00:25:08,808 --> 00:25:10,947
Did you ever mention
the community garden protests?
585
00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:14,180
I grew vegetables
in that garden. I had a real connection to it.
586
00:25:16,215 --> 00:25:19,219
I live in this city,
and I wanted her to know how active I was.
587
00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:21,561
That I wasn't, you know,
a dilettante.
588
00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:23,395
Who are the two people
who came with her?
589
00:25:23,456 --> 00:25:25,493
They only used first names,
590
00:25:25,691 --> 00:25:27,693
Clark and Noah.
591
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:31,167
They said it was better
if I didn't know who they were.
592
00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:32,800
I agreed to give them
a place to stay.
593
00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:35,937
I lent them a credit card.
But that is all I did.
594
00:25:36,001 --> 00:25:38,003
You lent them a credit card
to buy gasoline.
595
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:39,879
I'd say you did plenty.
596
00:25:39,939 --> 00:25:41,748
Where are they,
Mr. Quigley?
597
00:25:41,807 --> 00:25:45,152
I'm not sure.
I'm telling you all I know.
598
00:25:48,147 --> 00:25:50,218
They were gonna stay
somewhere else once the fire was set.
599
00:25:52,051 --> 00:25:54,930
Stick around a couple of days
to put out some stuff on Coyote's website.
600
00:25:55,488 --> 00:25:56,489
How are they traveling?
601
00:25:58,123 --> 00:25:59,329
By bus.
602
00:25:59,758 --> 00:26:01,999
We downloaded e-mails
from Quigley's computer.
603
00:26:02,127 --> 00:26:03,902
Yeah, we were able
to locate a number of them
604
00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:05,636
through a variety
of internet service providers.
605
00:26:05,698 --> 00:26:09,339
JACK: The e-mails were sent
from dial-up numbers in Washington state.
606
00:26:10,135 --> 00:26:11,341
Emily Hoyt.
607
00:26:11,403 --> 00:26:13,849
And a week before the fire,
there was another e-mail.
608
00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:16,318
This time from a motel
in Dayton, Ohio.
609
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:19,949
We have the motel's records?
Yeah.
610
00:26:20,446 --> 00:26:22,084
Three people.
Two men and a woman.
611
00:26:22,147 --> 00:26:24,423
They paid cash.
Registered under assumed names.
612
00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:26,485
One of them made
a collect call to Oregon.
613
00:26:26,552 --> 00:26:28,327
The Mohrs of Bend, Oregon.
614
00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:30,890
The Mohrs have
one son, Clark, 19. Attends Washington State.
615
00:26:31,090 --> 00:26:32,091
JACK: Same as Hoyt.
616
00:26:32,291 --> 00:26:35,101
We have terrorists
who are phoning their parents from the road?
617
00:26:35,728 --> 00:26:37,230
Generation next.
618
00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:40,042
So, do we know where Hoyt
and Mohr are now?
619
00:26:40,132 --> 00:26:42,112
Well, Quigley doesn't think
they've left the city yet.
620
00:26:42,167 --> 00:26:43,339
Thinks they're
traveling by bus.
621
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:45,945
Airlines require
a photo ID.
622
00:26:46,005 --> 00:26:48,281
I put the Port Authority
on full alert.
623
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,181
And there is sort of
a spokesman for them.
624
00:26:52,711 --> 00:26:53,712
LEWIN: Well, he's local.
625
00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:56,225
Mmm-hmm.
He runs a farm in upstate New York.
626
00:26:56,315 --> 00:26:57,988
Can we connect him
to this fire?
627
00:26:58,050 --> 00:26:59,825
Not with anything that
would hold up in court.
628
00:26:59,885 --> 00:27:01,887
Well, he sells
produce to Quigley's food co-op.
629
00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:02,955
And when I called the Mohrs,
630
00:27:03,022 --> 00:27:04,160
they said their son
was coming east
631
00:27:04,223 --> 00:27:06,260
for a conference
on the environment.
632
00:27:06,325 --> 00:27:08,168
The keynote speaker
was Rochet.
633
00:27:08,494 --> 00:27:09,768
And the topic?
634
00:27:09,828 --> 00:27:12,138
The destruction of
greenery in our cities.
635
00:27:13,365 --> 00:27:15,311
LEWIN: And where is
Mr. Rochet now?
636
00:27:15,367 --> 00:27:17,347
He comes to the city
every other Tuesday.
637
00:27:17,403 --> 00:27:18,473
Well, the next time
he does,
638
00:27:18,537 --> 00:27:20,881
why don't we ask him over
for a conversation,
639
00:27:20,939 --> 00:27:22,850
and let's see
how he takes the heat.
640
00:27:24,009 --> 00:27:25,181
I'm not under arrest?
641
00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:27,248
JACK: What for?
Just checking.
642
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:30,991
Do you run a website
for a group known as Coyote, Mr. Rochet?
643
00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:33,757
To anticipate, yes,
I run the Coyote website.
644
00:27:33,819 --> 00:27:35,799
Yes, Coyote,
a very amorphous group
645
00:27:35,854 --> 00:27:38,164
has taken direct action to
defend the environment.
646
00:27:38,223 --> 00:27:40,100
Yes, I support
those actions.
647
00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:42,196
But, no,
I do not instigate them,
648
00:27:42,261 --> 00:27:45,140
I do not incite them,
I do not facilitate them in any way.
649
00:27:45,197 --> 00:27:48,007
I merely disseminate
information and promote the free exchange
650
00:27:48,067 --> 00:27:50,946
of ideas, neither
of which is illegal.
651
00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:53,313
I did some checking,
Mr. Rochet.
652
00:27:53,372 --> 00:27:56,910
You post information
about oil drilling in the Alaskan wilderness.
653
00:27:56,976 --> 00:27:59,650
Three weeks later,
the drilling company's bulldozers
654
00:27:59,712 --> 00:28:01,055
are destroyed by vandals.
655
00:28:01,113 --> 00:28:03,115
The same thing with
the ski resort in Utah.
656
00:28:03,182 --> 00:28:05,492
I post the truth.
I fail to see the harm in that.
657
00:28:05,551 --> 00:28:07,622
This last speech
you gave at a conference in New Paltz,
658
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:09,393
you targeted
community gardens.
659
00:28:10,322 --> 00:28:11,596
Targeted?
Uh-huh.
660
00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:16,632
You saying you don't intend
these kids to take their lead from your information?
661
00:28:16,729 --> 00:28:19,232
I'll comment on just about
anything but my intent.
662
00:28:19,298 --> 00:28:21,574
But I will say this,
fires have been set
663
00:28:21,634 --> 00:28:24,046
and fires will continue
to be set because it is the right thing
664
00:28:24,103 --> 00:28:25,104
that they be set.
665
00:28:27,573 --> 00:28:29,814
Emily Hoyt, Clark Mohr.
666
00:28:30,776 --> 00:28:32,380
Do you know them, Mr. Rochet?
667
00:28:32,444 --> 00:28:35,084
I make it a point not
to familiarize myself with anyone.
668
00:28:35,347 --> 00:28:37,918
Well, you must have
at least read about the woman killed in this fire.
669
00:28:38,350 --> 00:28:39,420
If you're asking
if I regret
670
00:28:39,485 --> 00:28:41,487
the loss of a life, I do.
671
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,761
Just as I regret
the loss of open space,
672
00:28:44,823 --> 00:28:46,734
and the degradation
of urban life for the enrichment of
673
00:28:46,792 --> 00:28:48,669
the few at
the expense of many.
674
00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:51,034
That the best you can do,
Mr. Rochet? Rhetoric?
675
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:55,243
Is that the best you can do,
Mr. McCoy? Sanctimony?
676
00:28:58,003 --> 00:28:59,641
I'm free to go, right?
677
00:29:04,643 --> 00:29:07,055
I don't regret anything
I've done, Mr. McCoy.
678
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,390
I hope you never
have cause to regret anything you do.
679
00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,961
Letting that guy walk out
the door's a start.
680
00:29:18,056 --> 00:29:19,057
(PHONE RINGING)
681
00:29:20,793 --> 00:29:22,704
Yeah? When?
682
00:29:23,929 --> 00:29:24,930
Thank you.
683
00:29:25,164 --> 00:29:27,440
Emily Hoyt was just spotted
at the Port Authority bus station.
684
00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:30,943
Clerk says
three individuals matching our descriptions
685
00:29:31,003 --> 00:29:32,607
just bought tickets
for a bus to Chicago.
686
00:29:32,671 --> 00:29:34,981
Where?
Platform 64. They're holding the bus.
687
00:29:38,443 --> 00:29:41,390
Hey, trail mix.
Keep your hands where I can see 'em.
688
00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:42,754
Up against the bus.
689
00:29:45,117 --> 00:29:47,324
Now that's disappointing.
Don't you know smoking's bad for you?
690
00:29:47,386 --> 00:29:48,592
Come here.
691
00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:55,472
You know, other than
some protests, disorderly conduct,
692
00:29:55,527 --> 00:29:58,303
all political stuff,
they really don't have records.
693
00:29:58,363 --> 00:30:01,139
Which doesn't mean
they haven't set other fires.
694
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,407
Say we prosecute
them for murder.
695
00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:06,507
You really think
some other kid's gonna blow out his match
696
00:30:06,572 --> 00:30:08,108
because of what we did?
697
00:30:08,173 --> 00:30:11,017
Deterrence is one goal.
Punishment's another.
698
00:30:11,076 --> 00:30:15,718
So you'd draw no distinction
between arson for profit and arson for an ideal?
699
00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:19,422
I doubt Melanie Fried would,
and the law clearly doesn't.
700
00:30:20,052 --> 00:30:21,963
Have you talked
to any of them yet?
701
00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:23,693
They're being arraigned.
702
00:30:23,755 --> 00:30:26,964
Good. Maybe a night
at Rikers will loosen their tongues.
703
00:30:27,025 --> 00:30:28,163
About Rochet?
704
00:30:28,227 --> 00:30:31,731
It's common sense.
I mean, someone put Quigley in touch with those kids.
705
00:30:32,331 --> 00:30:34,607
If you're so hell bent
on handing out punishment,
706
00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:37,272
let's mete it out
to somebody old enough to appreciate it.
707
00:30:37,336 --> 00:30:39,612
If Rochet was involved,
it was in cyberspace.
708
00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:41,150
Common sense
doesn't apply there.
709
00:30:41,206 --> 00:30:43,413
The fire was started
in his neighborhood,
710
00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:45,284
not clear
across the country.
711
00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:47,381
Maybe he wanted to
do something more than type this time.
712
00:30:50,215 --> 00:30:54,186
I always tell my clients,
"Beware D.A.'s bearing gifts.
713
00:30:54,253 --> 00:30:56,790
"They generally demand
more than they offer."
714
00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:59,096
What I'm offering is
a decade of their lives.
715
00:30:59,591 --> 00:31:01,468
Out of the goodness
of your heart.
716
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,397
My boss has no interest
in punishing your clients
717
00:31:04,463 --> 00:31:06,966
and letting others
responsible for this fire go free.
718
00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:11,640
I suspect your primary
interest is winning a high-profile media case.
719
00:31:11,703 --> 00:31:14,115
We're not the ones
who've spent the last 30 years
720
00:31:14,173 --> 00:31:16,585
using radical causes
to grandstand with the press.
721
00:31:16,642 --> 00:31:19,145
Well, my record
speaks for itself.
722
00:31:19,378 --> 00:31:21,949
A record which includes
defending cop killers.
723
00:31:22,014 --> 00:31:25,291
I love it when young D.A.'s
claim the system's rigged.
724
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:27,626
This isn't about
ideology, counselor.
725
00:31:27,686 --> 00:31:29,962
This is about
three young lives and what we, in this room,
726
00:31:30,022 --> 00:31:32,662
are going to do
to see that they aren't wasted.
727
00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:34,731
What is it you want?
728
00:31:34,793 --> 00:31:37,535
Your clients attended
a conference in New Paltz
729
00:31:38,363 --> 00:31:40,604
a couple of weeks
before the fire was set.
730
00:31:40,666 --> 00:31:42,873
One of the speakers
there was Paul Rochet.
731
00:31:43,635 --> 00:31:46,548
Rochet? Uh, what does
he have to do with this?
732
00:31:46,972 --> 00:31:49,145
We know
about the website, Mr. Stadler.
733
00:31:49,208 --> 00:31:50,380
And the speech.
734
00:31:50,442 --> 00:31:52,251
How he encouraged you
to burn down that building.
735
00:31:52,311 --> 00:31:53,517
That's not what he said.
736
00:31:53,979 --> 00:31:56,152
I assume
we're off the record?
737
00:31:59,051 --> 00:32:00,997
You think Rochet
tells us what to do?
738
00:32:02,387 --> 00:32:04,230
"Come up with your own plan."
739
00:32:05,524 --> 00:32:08,334
I think Rochet
identifies targets
740
00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:12,568
and avoids criminal liability
by hiding behind this website.
741
00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:14,702
Dude, you are so
far out of touch.
742
00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:20,580
The last six areas
mentioned on Rochet's website fell victim to arson.
743
00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:24,151
Do you expect me to believe
that's a coincidence?
744
00:32:24,209 --> 00:32:27,622
They're poisoning
our water, our food.
745
00:32:28,146 --> 00:32:30,422
I mean, Rochet just
wants people to know what's happening.
746
00:32:30,482 --> 00:32:32,621
He's up on that farm
pulling the strings,
747
00:32:32,684 --> 00:32:35,790
and you three are too young
or too stupid to realize it.
748
00:32:35,854 --> 00:32:39,927
I'm not sure insulting
them's the best way to gain their confidence.
749
00:32:39,992 --> 00:32:41,062
JACK: This time a woman died.
750
00:32:41,126 --> 00:32:42,196
McCoy.
751
00:32:42,261 --> 00:32:43,638
It's time they
grew up, counselor.
752
00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:46,733
You call it growing up.
We call it giving up.
753
00:32:50,769 --> 00:32:53,613
You can't answer that
with slogans, Mr. Stadler.
754
00:32:53,672 --> 00:32:54,776
EMILY: Oh, my God.
755
00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:58,851
She was a school teacher.
Devoted to children.
756
00:32:59,511 --> 00:33:02,458
That's the end
of this conversation. Let's go.
757
00:33:02,848 --> 00:33:05,055
JACK: She was 24 years old.
758
00:33:05,117 --> 00:33:07,393
Only a year or so
older than you, Ms. Hoyt.
759
00:33:07,452 --> 00:33:09,090
I said, that's enough.
760
00:33:13,859 --> 00:33:16,135
Think they allow organic
produce in prison?
761
00:33:18,530 --> 00:33:20,532
They fell on their swords.
762
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:23,946
I'm not sure they ever
had Rochet to give us.
763
00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:25,481
So we make
examples of them?
764
00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:27,380
They've made examples
of themselves.
765
00:33:27,439 --> 00:33:32,115
You can't protest and demand
accountability of others, and then not accept your own.
766
00:33:32,644 --> 00:33:36,217
No movement was ever stopped
by making martyrs of the foot soldiers, Jack.
767
00:33:36,281 --> 00:33:38,955
I don't intend to
let them go down that nobly.
768
00:33:40,719 --> 00:33:42,960
What makes us
so stupid when we're 20.
769
00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:51,598
KENT: I knew Emily...
Uh, Ms. Hoyt, from the Internet.
770
00:33:53,198 --> 00:33:56,805
Uh, Mr. Mohr and Mr. Stadler,
I didn't know their names.
771
00:33:56,935 --> 00:33:59,176
They came to New York
with Emily.
772
00:33:59,838 --> 00:34:01,476
They crashed with me
773
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:04,646
when they came to New York to
burn down that building.
774
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:05,950
Objection.
775
00:34:06,311 --> 00:34:07,483
Sustained.
776
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,118
Did they discuss with you
the purpose of their visit to New York?
777
00:34:11,683 --> 00:34:12,923
Objection.
778
00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:14,428
JUDGE: Overruled.
779
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,623
They said they were here
to commit an action.
780
00:34:18,557 --> 00:34:20,127
To burn down
the building that
781
00:34:20,192 --> 00:34:22,468
had been built over
the community garden.
782
00:34:22,527 --> 00:34:24,700
That's the word
they used? An action?
783
00:34:24,763 --> 00:34:25,867
That's what
they called it.
784
00:34:25,931 --> 00:34:29,105
And to your knowledge,
did the defendants carry out this action?
785
00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:32,438
They bought
a jug of gas and
786
00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:35,512
two alarm systems.
787
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:42,047
People's "A" and "B",
Your Honor.
788
00:34:43,882 --> 00:34:46,954
And on the night in question,
did you see the defendants?
789
00:34:47,018 --> 00:34:50,431
They left my apartment
about 6:30...
790
00:34:51,656 --> 00:34:56,002
They came back, maybe,
9:00-9:30. I'm not sure.
791
00:34:56,495 --> 00:34:57,667
There was a lot going on.
792
00:34:58,096 --> 00:34:59,404
JACK: A lot going on?
793
00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,736
They had heard
on the news that some woman
794
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,303
had been killed in the fire,
and they were pretty upset.
795
00:35:04,369 --> 00:35:06,110
Everyone talking at once.
796
00:35:06,305 --> 00:35:07,682
What were they saying?
797
00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:09,309
Noah was yelling at Clark.
798
00:35:09,374 --> 00:35:11,911
Saying Clark
was supposed to check the building.
799
00:35:12,611 --> 00:35:15,023
Uh, Clark said no one
was supposed to be there.
800
00:35:15,413 --> 00:35:16,517
Things like that.
801
00:35:18,483 --> 00:35:19,689
And Emily...
802
00:35:20,385 --> 00:35:21,523
Emily was crying.
803
00:35:21,586 --> 00:35:24,226
She kept saying,
over and over,
804
00:35:24,756 --> 00:35:26,497
"Nobody was supposed to die."
805
00:35:26,992 --> 00:35:28,198
Nothing further.
806
00:35:32,397 --> 00:35:36,174
Mr. Quigley,
the evening in question,
807
00:35:37,069 --> 00:35:38,377
when they left
your apartment,
808
00:35:38,437 --> 00:35:40,075
were you with the defendants?
809
00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:41,208
No, sir.
810
00:35:41,273 --> 00:35:45,688
So you don't really know
who did what that night, do you?
811
00:35:45,777 --> 00:35:46,812
No.
812
00:35:46,878 --> 00:35:48,619
WHITTEN: And when
they came back,
813
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,628
it was your impression
my clients were upset
814
00:35:52,684 --> 00:35:54,357
about the death
of Ms. Fried?
815
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,027
They were very upset.
816
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:59,158
WHITTEN: Because
the taking of human life
817
00:35:59,224 --> 00:36:02,034
wasn't at all the purpose
of this fire, was it?
818
00:36:02,093 --> 00:36:03,128
Objection.
819
00:36:03,195 --> 00:36:06,506
Defendants are charged
with an intentional crime, Your Honor.
820
00:36:06,565 --> 00:36:08,602
They're lives hang
in the balance.
821
00:36:09,568 --> 00:36:12,174
I'll allow it. And watch
your step, counselor.
822
00:36:14,606 --> 00:36:15,744
Mr. Quigley?
823
00:36:19,544 --> 00:36:22,081
There was a beautiful
garden on that lot.
824
00:36:23,782 --> 00:36:25,420
People grew things.
825
00:36:25,484 --> 00:36:28,055
Kids had a chance
to put their hands in the dirt.
826
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,694
Then... Then this
developer comes,
827
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:37,064
bulldozes the whole thing,
paves it over like it had never been there at all.
828
00:36:41,767 --> 00:36:43,041
That was the purpose.
829
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,312
To tell the world we cared.
830
00:36:52,244 --> 00:36:54,087
SERENA: Kids
playing in the sun.
831
00:36:54,146 --> 00:36:56,422
At the end there,
it felt more like an Earth Day celebration
832
00:36:56,481 --> 00:36:57,789
than a murder trial.
833
00:36:57,849 --> 00:37:00,329
Whitten doesn't
get cop killers off by accident.
834
00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:01,591
Well, at least
we still have Shollar.
835
00:37:01,653 --> 00:37:02,996
He can put Hoyt
at the scene.
836
00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:06,035
Whitten will
portray Shollar as a cheating spouse,
837
00:37:06,091 --> 00:37:09,265
who abandoned his lover
in her time of need.
838
00:37:09,327 --> 00:37:11,068
Won't help
his credibility much.
839
00:37:11,396 --> 00:37:13,103
What about flipping
one of them?
840
00:37:13,165 --> 00:37:15,338
Divide and conquer?
Over Whitten's dead body.
841
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,640
Motion to sever?
842
00:37:17,536 --> 00:37:19,482
I don't feel like
losing three trials.
843
00:37:19,971 --> 00:37:22,076
So, the law lets
these kids try and bury the truth
844
00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:23,676
about this case
in a little garden?
845
00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:26,655
Eventually, you reap
what you sow.
846
00:37:32,217 --> 00:37:33,924
This was
a gasoline-based fire.
847
00:37:33,985 --> 00:37:37,228
It burned very quickly
and produced an intense heat.
848
00:37:37,289 --> 00:37:40,498
Your arson report
indicates four firemen were overcome by smoke.
849
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:43,005
LEY: Yes,
there was a tremendous amount of smoke.
850
00:37:43,295 --> 00:37:45,673
Apparently, they were
laying the carpets in the common areas,
851
00:37:45,730 --> 00:37:47,437
so the padding was in rolls.
852
00:37:47,499 --> 00:37:48,773
And once that went up...
853
00:37:51,202 --> 00:37:53,148
Looking at
People's exhibit "C,"
854
00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:57,116
the apartment
where Melanie Fried's body was found,
855
00:37:57,642 --> 00:37:59,212
what was her chance
of surviving?
856
00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:00,483
Objection.
857
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:04,652
Judge, a great deal
has been made of the precision of this fire,
858
00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:07,026
how it was intended
to avoid injury.
859
00:38:07,953 --> 00:38:09,762
I think it's only fair
for the jury,
860
00:38:09,821 --> 00:38:14,167
to be afforded some insight
into what chance Melanie Fried had to escape.
861
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:18,073
You did open the door
to intent, Mr. Whitten.
862
00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:20,032
You can answer
the question.
863
00:38:21,066 --> 00:38:24,377
In my opinion,
Melanie Fried had no chance of escape.
864
00:38:24,436 --> 00:38:25,471
Why not?
865
00:38:25,537 --> 00:38:27,312
Well, within
a matter of seconds,
866
00:38:27,372 --> 00:38:29,409
the room would have
been filled with smoke.
867
00:38:29,474 --> 00:38:32,080
Her last moments
would have been in total blackness,
868
00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:33,520
struggling for air.
869
00:38:34,212 --> 00:38:36,692
If you can imagine
a person drowning in smoke.
870
00:38:40,252 --> 00:38:41,731
What about the fact
871
00:38:41,786 --> 00:38:45,757
that the fire
was set in the center of the hallway?
872
00:38:46,491 --> 00:38:48,437
LEY: Very good
for letting firemen in.
873
00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:50,632
Not so good for letting
other people out.
874
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:53,609
What about the heat?
875
00:38:54,132 --> 00:38:55,236
Searing.
876
00:38:55,634 --> 00:38:59,480
As the fire spread,
the room would have been like an oven.
877
00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:04,787
So before Melanie Fried
mercifully passed out,
878
00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:06,617
she would have been
cooking to death.
879
00:39:07,645 --> 00:39:08,851
WHITTEN: Your Honor...
880
00:39:09,414 --> 00:39:10,757
JUDGE: Mr. McCoy.
881
00:39:14,419 --> 00:39:15,523
Nothing further.
882
00:39:21,993 --> 00:39:24,405
You understand
the consequences of pleading guilty?
883
00:39:24,462 --> 00:39:25,998
I just want
this to be over.
884
00:39:26,932 --> 00:39:29,105
Emily is prepared
to implicate her co-defendants.
885
00:39:30,702 --> 00:39:32,340
What's she expecting
in return?
886
00:39:32,938 --> 00:39:36,545
I can't be a party
to those negotiations, Mr. McCoy.
887
00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,151
At this point,
I'm recusing myself as her counsel.
888
00:39:41,313 --> 00:39:43,623
Nonetheless, I thought
I had an obligation
889
00:39:43,682 --> 00:39:47,255
as an officer of the court
to advise you of my client's wishes.
890
00:39:47,852 --> 00:39:50,059
We appreciate your position,
Mr. Whitten.
891
00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:51,725
SERENA: What
about the other two?
892
00:39:53,858 --> 00:39:55,838
They understand
once she testifies,
893
00:39:56,161 --> 00:39:57,765
a plea won't
be re-offered?
894
00:39:58,563 --> 00:40:02,238
My clients are at
an age when ideals still mean something.
895
00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:15,186
So what happens now?
896
00:40:16,281 --> 00:40:19,125
New counsel will be appointed
to discuss a plea bargain.
897
00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:21,693
Jail time will be involved.
898
00:40:23,288 --> 00:40:24,562
I understand.
899
00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:37,206
You're asking me
to get on my website and tell everybody to stop.
900
00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:40,647
Not protests, Mr. Rochet.
Just the violence.
901
00:40:41,139 --> 00:40:43,483
And in return you'll make
a reasonable sentencing
902
00:40:43,541 --> 00:40:45,680
recommendations
for Stadler and Mohr?
903
00:40:47,045 --> 00:40:50,083
I'm no lawyer, Mr. McCoy,
but that doesn't sound kosher.
904
00:40:51,116 --> 00:40:52,459
Yes or no?
905
00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,432
What makes you think
they would listen?
906
00:40:56,488 --> 00:40:59,469
Right or wrong,
these kids read your website.
907
00:40:59,891 --> 00:41:03,998
They read about Coyote
burning down resorts and attacking laboratories.
908
00:41:04,496 --> 00:41:06,498
They want to
emulate your actions.
909
00:41:07,932 --> 00:41:09,104
If you were to
denounce them...
910
00:41:09,167 --> 00:41:11,773
They'd call me a turncoat,
and they'd go somewhere else.
911
00:41:12,871 --> 00:41:14,714
You support terrorism.
912
00:41:14,773 --> 00:41:17,481
I have blood on my hands?
Is that what you're saying?
913
00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:19,946
Why not prosecute me then?
914
00:41:21,045 --> 00:41:24,185
There's legal
and moral guilt.
915
00:41:24,382 --> 00:41:27,659
And all those people
with emphysema who suffocate because of pollution
916
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,063
the same way that woman
suffocated in that fire?
917
00:41:30,121 --> 00:41:34,433
Or drink toxic water
because of the chemicals leeching into the watershed?
918
00:41:34,759 --> 00:41:36,898
Spare me.
I know the speech.
919
00:41:39,063 --> 00:41:41,202
Young people believe
the world can change.
920
00:41:41,266 --> 00:41:42,870
I won't tell them it can't.
921
00:41:43,568 --> 00:41:45,741
So teach them how
to really change it.
922
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:52,679
They're kids, Mr. Rochet.
923
00:41:57,315 --> 00:41:59,454
Every war has its casualties.
924
00:42:10,929 --> 00:42:12,636
When Kent...
JACK: Mr. Quigley.
925
00:42:13,264 --> 00:42:16,802
Told me about the fight
over the community gardens,
926
00:42:17,101 --> 00:42:18,444
that's when we...
927
00:42:19,771 --> 00:42:23,548
Clark and Noah,
Mr. Mohr and Mr. Stadler...
928
00:42:23,808 --> 00:42:25,549
That's when
we decided to do it.
929
00:42:26,444 --> 00:42:27,650
To do what?
930
00:42:29,748 --> 00:42:30,988
Set the fire.
931
00:42:31,616 --> 00:42:33,493
To burn down
the apartment building.
932
00:42:33,918 --> 00:42:35,693
But as a protest.
933
00:42:36,121 --> 00:42:38,829
Cities are so crowded,
so messed up,
934
00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:42,599
and they keep building
big skyscrapers that block out the sun.
935
00:42:43,261 --> 00:42:46,538
People don't have any access
to green, to the earth.
936
00:42:46,598 --> 00:42:48,635
They don't even know
what they're missing.
937
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:51,010
We're destroying this planet.
938
00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:53,879
It gets worse every year,
and nobody does anything about it.
939
00:42:53,938 --> 00:42:57,579
And we just thought,
"Shouldn't somebody put a stop to it?"
940
00:42:58,943 --> 00:43:01,617
Shouldn't we do everything
we can to stop that?
941
00:43:03,281 --> 00:43:06,160
We didn't know
there was anyone inside.
942
00:43:19,831 --> 00:43:21,242
Top count conviction.
943
00:43:21,866 --> 00:43:23,243
Emily Hoyt's testimony.
944
00:43:23,835 --> 00:43:25,075
What's she getting?
945
00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:28,743
Five years.
Same as Quigley.
946
00:43:28,873 --> 00:43:30,409
And the other defendants?
947
00:43:32,477 --> 00:43:34,081
They were given
every chance.
948
00:43:36,748 --> 00:43:40,218
Two coyotes turned into
sacrificial lambs.
949
00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:43,625
(SIGHS)
950
00:43:43,675 --> 00:43:48,225
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