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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,827 --> 00:00:03,586 [tires screeching] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:03,655 --> 00:00:05,965 [film projector running] 4 00:00:06,034 --> 00:00:08,344 - There were two problems with MTV. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:08,413 --> 00:00:10,551 Problem one was, 7 00:00:10,620 --> 00:00:12,896 they were only on cable. 8 00:00:12,965 --> 00:00:17,689 And in Boston, cable penetration was only 30, 35%. 9 00:00:17,758 --> 00:00:20,655 Problem two was, I thought they sucked. 10 00:00:20,724 --> 00:00:22,241 They were horrible. 11 00:00:22,310 --> 00:00:25,482 They were in this little tiny set in New York. 12 00:00:25,551 --> 00:00:28,448 They play a video, they play a video, 13 00:00:28,517 --> 00:00:30,620 then they go to the VJ sitting there, 14 00:00:30,689 --> 00:00:34,068 "Well, that was Duran Duran and [mumbling], 15 00:00:34,137 --> 00:00:36,379 "and coming up now we're gonna see something else." 16 00:00:36,448 --> 00:00:37,551 And we'll go to something else. 17 00:00:37,620 --> 00:00:38,931 It was so boring. 18 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,206 There was nothing to it. 19 00:00:40,275 --> 00:00:43,724 But the excitement was having the lifestyle 20 00:00:43,793 --> 00:00:47,241 of music and contemporary music, 21 00:00:47,310 --> 00:00:50,137 contemporary lifestyle on the TV. 22 00:00:50,206 --> 00:00:53,344 So that part of it I saw could be working. 23 00:00:53,413 --> 00:00:55,965 Then I thought, you could really do something with this 24 00:00:56,034 --> 00:00:57,379 and get people involved. 25 00:00:57,448 --> 00:01:00,862 You can get the culture of the community involved, 26 00:01:00,931 --> 00:01:03,655 culture of the music industry and just... lifestyle. 27 00:01:03,724 --> 00:01:07,931 ["No Place Like Home" by the Neighborhoods playing] 28 00:01:11,758 --> 00:01:14,000 ♪ Mom and Dad are so frightening 29 00:01:14,068 --> 00:01:16,586 ♪ Every day is a crisis 30 00:01:16,655 --> 00:01:19,137 ♪ Dad comes home and he's nervous 31 00:01:19,206 --> 00:01:21,448 ♪ The air so thick you can't breath 32 00:01:21,517 --> 00:01:22,724 ♪ Don't let them get to you 33 00:01:22,793 --> 00:01:24,172 ♪ There's not much you can do 34 00:01:24,241 --> 00:01:26,724 ♪ And little boy I know what you're going through 35 00:01:26,793 --> 00:01:30,689 ♪ And little boy I know what you're going through... 36 00:01:30,758 --> 00:01:32,482 ♪ 37 00:01:39,896 --> 00:01:42,000 ♪ Life's not easy as a weakling 38 00:01:42,068 --> 00:01:45,068 ♪ Always taking a beating 39 00:01:45,137 --> 00:01:47,275 ♪ My best friend is my Hi-Fi 40 00:01:47,344 --> 00:01:50,137 ♪ At 33 and 45 41 00:01:50,206 --> 00:01:52,517 ♪ When you get home from school run for your lonely room 42 00:01:52,586 --> 00:01:54,965 ♪ And little boy I know what you're going through 43 00:01:55,034 --> 00:01:58,448 ♪ And little boy I know what you're going through 44 00:01:58,517 --> 00:02:00,379 ♪ 45 00:02:08,034 --> 00:02:10,689 ♪ First grade straight As 46 00:02:10,758 --> 00:02:13,275 ♪ I was a good boy 47 00:02:13,344 --> 00:02:15,241 ♪ Grade six, grades slipped 48 00:02:15,310 --> 00:02:17,827 ♪ I was losing interest 49 00:02:17,896 --> 00:02:21,275 ♪ Fun time, grade nine 50 00:02:21,344 --> 00:02:23,517 ♪ Fools for friends and cheap highs 51 00:02:23,586 --> 00:02:26,241 ♪ Grade 12, expelled 52 00:02:26,310 --> 00:02:28,586 ♪ Never learned my lesson 53 00:02:28,655 --> 00:02:30,931 ♪ Mom and Dad are frightening 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,862 ♪ Every day is a crisis 55 00:02:32,931 --> 00:02:36,034 ♪ Dad comes home and he's nervous 56 00:02:36,103 --> 00:02:38,482 ♪ Air's so thick you can't breathe 57 00:02:38,551 --> 00:02:39,482 ♪ Don't let it get to you 58 00:02:39,551 --> 00:02:40,896 ♪ There's not much you can do 59 00:02:40,965 --> 00:02:43,172 ♪ And little boy I know what you're going through 60 00:02:43,241 --> 00:02:47,517 ♪ And little boy I know what you're going through 61 00:02:47,586 --> 00:02:49,517 ♪ Life's no fun 62 00:02:49,586 --> 00:02:53,068 ♪ Let's pretend 63 00:02:53,137 --> 00:02:54,931 ♪ Life's no fun 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 ♪ Let's pretend 65 00:02:58,068 --> 00:03:00,689 ♪ Life's no fun 66 00:03:00,758 --> 00:03:03,241 ♪ Let's pretend 67 00:03:03,310 --> 00:03:07,310 ♪ Life's no fun 68 00:03:07,379 --> 00:03:10,413 ♪ 69 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:16,965 [song ends] 70 00:03:18,931 --> 00:03:20,000 [intermittent television static] 71 00:03:28,310 --> 00:03:33,068 - UHF channel 66 will be broadcasting music videos 72 00:03:33,137 --> 00:03:34,482 to all of southern New England. 73 00:03:34,551 --> 00:03:39,620 - A new UHF, non-cable, free 24-hour music video service, 74 00:03:39,689 --> 00:03:42,103 s forerunner of localized music video stations 75 00:03:42,172 --> 00:03:43,275 spreading around the country. 76 00:03:43,344 --> 00:03:45,241 - [Reporter] New England is getting its taste 77 00:03:45,310 --> 00:03:47,448 of a whole new entertainment medium. 78 00:03:47,517 --> 00:03:50,000 The techno age of video is changing the shape 79 00:03:50,068 --> 00:03:51,724 of broadcasting. 80 00:03:51,793 --> 00:03:54,724 - [Narrator] V66, the beat goes on. 81 00:03:54,793 --> 00:03:55,724 [static] 82 00:04:01,413 --> 00:04:03,448 - I made some great decisions when I was a kid 83 00:04:03,517 --> 00:04:05,172 because I followed my heart. 84 00:04:05,241 --> 00:04:07,137 I think I learned it from my mother, who'd say to me, 85 00:04:07,206 --> 00:04:10,620 "If you do what you believe in, you won't fail." 86 00:04:10,689 --> 00:04:13,896 I was kind of a, you know, techno geek back then. 87 00:04:13,965 --> 00:04:16,586 When I was 12 or 13, I built a little radio station 88 00:04:16,655 --> 00:04:18,586 in my bedroom. 89 00:04:18,655 --> 00:04:20,206 I hooked an antenna up and you could hear it 90 00:04:20,275 --> 00:04:21,517 all around my neighborhood. 91 00:04:21,586 --> 00:04:22,793 And I really liked that. 92 00:04:22,862 --> 00:04:24,758 I really got fascinated with radio. 93 00:04:24,827 --> 00:04:26,413 And I thought radio was exciting. 94 00:04:26,482 --> 00:04:27,482 It was a community. 95 00:04:27,551 --> 00:04:29,000 It was a bonding experience 96 00:04:29,068 --> 00:04:31,620 where lots and lots of people are sharing 97 00:04:31,689 --> 00:04:34,275 this common experience together. 98 00:04:34,344 --> 00:04:35,827 It was about that time I walked 99 00:04:35,896 --> 00:04:39,344 into Weston High School one morning. 100 00:04:39,413 --> 00:04:41,034 And went down to my locker and someone said, 101 00:04:41,103 --> 00:04:43,758 "Hey, Arnie Ginsburg mentioned Weston High School 102 00:04:43,827 --> 00:04:46,068 on his radio show last night." 103 00:04:46,137 --> 00:04:48,689 And I said, "Who is Arnie Ginsburg?" 104 00:04:48,758 --> 00:04:53,103 - I went on the air in 1956 as a rock and roll disc jockey. 105 00:04:53,172 --> 00:04:56,206 And prior to that I was an engineer. 106 00:04:56,275 --> 00:04:59,172 I got a lot of licenses with stations around New England. 107 00:04:59,241 --> 00:05:01,344 - Well, I was always fascinated by radio 108 00:05:01,413 --> 00:05:03,931 because radio is hot, happening, very social. 109 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,758 It was interacting really strongly with people, 110 00:05:05,827 --> 00:05:08,000 much more directly than TV at the time. 111 00:05:08,068 --> 00:05:11,344 - And I just went on the air 'cause somebody said, 112 00:05:11,413 --> 00:05:13,448 "Hey Arnie, you wanna do a radio show?" 113 00:05:13,517 --> 00:05:14,620 I said, "Okay." 114 00:05:14,689 --> 00:05:17,482 And everybody thought radio was dying 115 00:05:17,551 --> 00:05:20,034 'cause television was gonna knock radio out of business. 116 00:05:20,103 --> 00:05:23,379 And that was 1956. 117 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:24,758 God, that was 30 years ago. 118 00:05:24,827 --> 00:05:27,172 So I went on the air as a joke 119 00:05:27,241 --> 00:05:28,551 and it caught on instantly. 120 00:05:28,620 --> 00:05:30,241 - First time I was ever on the radio 121 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:31,896 when I was 15 years old, 122 00:05:31,965 --> 00:05:33,551 I was a guest from Weston High School 123 00:05:33,620 --> 00:05:35,275 on Arnie Ginsburg's radio show. 124 00:05:35,344 --> 00:05:37,931 - Well my show was called the Night Train. 125 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,586 - ♪ Get around, everybody 126 00:05:41,655 --> 00:05:43,931 ♪ We are about to hear 127 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,068 ♪ The show that's gonna make you 128 00:05:46,137 --> 00:05:48,586 ♪ Smile from ear to ear, it's Arnie Ginsburg 129 00:05:48,655 --> 00:05:50,137 [honking] 130 00:05:50,206 --> 00:05:52,275 ♪ On the Night Train show 131 00:05:52,344 --> 00:05:55,241 - The Beatles were in the Boston Garden 132 00:05:55,310 --> 00:05:58,034 and I was one of the emcees there. 133 00:05:58,103 --> 00:06:00,724 There I am in the front row. 134 00:06:00,793 --> 00:06:02,517 In this picture, I'm smiling. 135 00:06:02,586 --> 00:06:05,103 But the one on the "Globe" I wasn't smiling 136 00:06:05,172 --> 00:06:08,206 and it said, "Unidentified man on the right 137 00:06:08,275 --> 00:06:10,758 seems unimpressed by it all." 138 00:06:10,827 --> 00:06:13,000 - But I decided I wanted to get a job in radio, 139 00:06:13,068 --> 00:06:15,586 so I got in my car and told my parents 140 00:06:15,655 --> 00:06:17,000 I wanted to take a day off from school. 141 00:06:17,068 --> 00:06:19,551 But I stumbled into this radio station in Milford 142 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:22,758 and then this guy named Charlie was the program director. 143 00:06:22,827 --> 00:06:23,862 He happened to come out while I was talking 144 00:06:23,931 --> 00:06:25,137 to the receptionist and I said, 145 00:06:25,206 --> 00:06:27,379 "Hi, I'm looking for some part-time work." 146 00:06:27,448 --> 00:06:29,068 He said, "Oh, come on in." 147 00:06:29,137 --> 00:06:30,862 So I'm in the studio with him while he's doing the show 148 00:06:30,931 --> 00:06:32,862 and he said, "Could you read the news?" 149 00:06:32,931 --> 00:06:34,172 I said, "Oh sure, I'm in the announcers club 150 00:06:34,241 --> 00:06:35,655 at Weston High School." 151 00:06:35,724 --> 00:06:37,310 I'm a little bit nervous 152 00:06:37,379 --> 00:06:39,172 and I came up and I read the news. 153 00:06:39,241 --> 00:06:41,275 That was that and said okay, 154 00:06:41,344 --> 00:06:43,172 he said, "We'll hire you to be on the air 155 00:06:43,241 --> 00:06:44,344 on Saturday and Sunday." 156 00:06:44,413 --> 00:06:46,862 After working in Milford, I got a call 157 00:06:46,931 --> 00:06:48,620 from the program director 158 00:06:48,689 --> 00:06:51,862 of a radio station in Worcester called WORC. 159 00:06:51,931 --> 00:06:53,758 This is what... this changed my life. 160 00:06:53,827 --> 00:06:56,172 There couldn't have been a better radio station 161 00:06:56,241 --> 00:06:59,931 on this planet for me to have gotten into 162 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,241 and been hired at. 163 00:07:01,310 --> 00:07:05,758 Because they epitomized what I loved about radio, 164 00:07:05,827 --> 00:07:06,827 which was the community. 165 00:07:06,896 --> 00:07:08,241 I remember getting in my car, 166 00:07:08,310 --> 00:07:11,000 turning on the radio, and looking for WORC. 167 00:07:11,068 --> 00:07:12,275 And I'm going up and down the dial. 168 00:07:12,344 --> 00:07:16,000 And the first thing I hear is this crazy song. 169 00:07:16,068 --> 00:07:17,689 [knocks on table] 170 00:07:17,758 --> 00:07:19,965 ♪ Don't knock, don't phone. 171 00:07:20,034 --> 00:07:22,068 ♪ Come on in and make yourself at home. 172 00:07:22,137 --> 00:07:23,862 ♪ It's always open house at our house. 173 00:07:23,931 --> 00:07:26,206 It was this funky jingle with a piano. 174 00:07:26,275 --> 00:07:28,137 I thought, "What kind of station is this?" 175 00:07:28,206 --> 00:07:30,620 Then these guys came on and they're yelling back and forth 176 00:07:30,689 --> 00:07:31,689 and, oh, "Call up. 177 00:07:31,758 --> 00:07:33,206 "The phone lines are open. 178 00:07:33,275 --> 00:07:34,689 "We're only gonna play songs you tell us to play 179 00:07:34,758 --> 00:07:36,068 and this is your radio station." 180 00:07:36,137 --> 00:07:40,172 That is what has guided me my whole life. 181 00:07:40,241 --> 00:07:41,517 I saw the success. 182 00:07:41,586 --> 00:07:45,551 I saw not a little success-- the runaway success. 183 00:07:45,620 --> 00:07:48,172 And it is that energy, that community, 184 00:07:48,241 --> 00:07:51,620 and that excitement that gets people involved. 185 00:07:51,689 --> 00:07:53,655 I ended up in Albany, New York, 186 00:07:53,724 --> 00:07:57,172 at this big 50,000 watt station called WPTR. 187 00:07:57,241 --> 00:07:59,344 The thing I hated about my job 188 00:07:59,413 --> 00:08:01,310 was working for a program director 189 00:08:01,379 --> 00:08:04,448 who was trying to create the same kind of radio station 190 00:08:04,517 --> 00:08:06,827 that I knew was not the best that they could be. 191 00:08:06,896 --> 00:08:09,137 So I should have my own radio station. 192 00:08:09,206 --> 00:08:11,241 I started doing a search for a frequency. 193 00:08:11,310 --> 00:08:13,551 I found this frequency for a new radio station 194 00:08:13,620 --> 00:08:16,724 that could be put into suburban Boston. 195 00:08:16,793 --> 00:08:20,724 1060 AM, beautiful dial position. 196 00:08:20,793 --> 00:08:25,896 So I called a guy who had been one of the original hosts 197 00:08:25,965 --> 00:08:27,965 of Open House Party named Mel Miller. 198 00:08:28,034 --> 00:08:32,344 Mel Miller this time was the program director of WMEX. 199 00:08:32,413 --> 00:08:34,034 And I said, "Hey Mel," 200 00:08:34,103 --> 00:08:35,931 I said, "I'd like to come to Boston 201 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,896 because I want to put this radio station together." 202 00:08:37,965 --> 00:08:39,241 I said, "Do you have any openings? 203 00:08:39,310 --> 00:08:40,620 He said, "Yeah." So I got hired. 204 00:08:40,689 --> 00:08:43,172 So I quit my job at WPTR in Albany. 205 00:08:43,241 --> 00:08:46,275 Moved home to Boston, which was really exciting. 206 00:08:46,344 --> 00:08:48,137 And I went on the All Night show. 207 00:08:48,206 --> 00:08:50,379 And all night I did that and all day I went around 208 00:08:50,448 --> 00:08:52,586 putting my radio station together. 209 00:08:52,655 --> 00:08:55,758 It took eight years of government crap 210 00:08:55,827 --> 00:08:57,517 to finally get the license. 211 00:08:57,586 --> 00:09:00,068 And we put it on the air in 1972, 212 00:09:00,137 --> 00:09:01,896 it was very successful. 213 00:09:01,965 --> 00:09:04,689 ♪ 214 00:09:04,758 --> 00:09:07,068 And by 1975 I was bored again. 215 00:09:07,137 --> 00:09:08,517 I thought, "Well, what else is there?" 216 00:09:08,586 --> 00:09:10,241 So I've been studying the FCC rules 217 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:13,206 and I found there was a television channel 218 00:09:13,275 --> 00:09:15,793 that had been allocated to the city of Worcester 219 00:09:15,862 --> 00:09:18,137 that no one had ever applied for. 220 00:09:18,206 --> 00:09:20,103 It was channel 66. 221 00:09:20,172 --> 00:09:22,862 There was also a rule that they've since gotten rid of 222 00:09:22,931 --> 00:09:25,103 that said if there's a channel assigned to a city, 223 00:09:25,172 --> 00:09:28,758 you can apply to have that channel assigned 224 00:09:28,827 --> 00:09:32,482 to any city within 15 miles. 225 00:09:32,551 --> 00:09:35,862 So I got a compass out, I put it on the Worcester Post Office, 226 00:09:35,931 --> 00:09:37,896 and there's Marlborough, Massachusetts. 227 00:09:37,965 --> 00:09:43,103 And Marlborough was 13.6 miles from Worcester. 228 00:09:43,172 --> 00:09:44,827 And what's significant about that is 229 00:09:44,896 --> 00:09:47,931 that Marlborough was in Middlesex County, 230 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,758 which is the largest county in Massachusetts in population. 231 00:09:50,827 --> 00:09:53,689 So suddenly we had a place to put the television station 232 00:09:53,758 --> 00:09:55,620 which could make it a Boston station 233 00:09:55,689 --> 00:09:57,137 instead of a Worcester station. 234 00:09:57,206 --> 00:10:00,000 - I'm not even sure when he was first getting the license 235 00:10:00,068 --> 00:10:01,310 and first putting it on the air 236 00:10:01,379 --> 00:10:04,206 he was sure what he was gonna do with it. 237 00:10:04,275 --> 00:10:07,137 It wasn't always gonna be a music video station. 238 00:10:07,206 --> 00:10:09,965 I can remember actually going to conventions, 239 00:10:10,034 --> 00:10:12,206 weekend programming conventions with him, 240 00:10:12,275 --> 00:10:14,172 and trying to decide whether it was gonna be 241 00:10:14,241 --> 00:10:18,103 the game show channel or, you know, TV shows 242 00:10:18,172 --> 00:10:20,448 or what kind of programming he was gonna put on it. 243 00:10:20,517 --> 00:10:23,689 - He said he'd like to put it on... 244 00:10:23,758 --> 00:10:26,344 you know, "I wanna do something with it. 245 00:10:26,413 --> 00:10:28,620 Are you interested in getting involved?" 246 00:10:28,689 --> 00:10:31,689 - One of the problems in building 247 00:10:31,758 --> 00:10:34,034 this television station, putting the business plan together, 248 00:10:34,103 --> 00:10:35,758 was getting programming. 249 00:10:35,827 --> 00:10:37,310 The last thing I wanted to do was work 250 00:10:37,379 --> 00:10:39,758 at a TV station with reruns, 251 00:10:39,827 --> 00:10:42,310 just more of the same old thing. 252 00:10:42,379 --> 00:10:45,241 But from a radio background, I saw all the potential 253 00:10:45,310 --> 00:10:47,793 that television really had to do more 254 00:10:47,862 --> 00:10:51,586 than just be a place that has reruns and old movies. 255 00:10:51,655 --> 00:10:54,517 There was no programming available. 256 00:10:54,586 --> 00:10:56,827 There were no network affiliations available. 257 00:10:56,896 --> 00:10:59,034 There was no syndicated programming to buy. 258 00:10:59,103 --> 00:11:02,724 Every station in Boston had bought everything on market. 259 00:11:02,793 --> 00:11:05,413 There were no film packages to buy. 260 00:11:05,482 --> 00:11:07,344 There was nothing. 261 00:11:07,413 --> 00:11:09,310 There was no programming available 262 00:11:09,379 --> 00:11:11,448 to put on this television station. 263 00:11:11,517 --> 00:11:15,241 So that means you had to create your own programming. 264 00:11:16,931 --> 00:11:18,620 [pages flipping] 265 00:11:25,172 --> 00:11:29,241 - Video started as record company advertisements 266 00:11:29,310 --> 00:11:32,068 before MTV and V66 267 00:11:32,137 --> 00:11:37,862 and all of that, and that's basically what they were. 268 00:11:37,931 --> 00:11:42,517 There was no market for them other than to sell records. 269 00:11:42,586 --> 00:11:45,379 But they became so popular and there were so many 270 00:11:45,448 --> 00:11:48,517 that MTV started and V66 started. 271 00:11:48,586 --> 00:11:51,620 - So what do you put on a three million watt 272 00:11:51,689 --> 00:11:53,448 television station in the nation's 273 00:11:53,517 --> 00:11:55,206 fifth largest television market? 274 00:11:55,275 --> 00:11:59,586 [rock music] 275 00:12:11,103 --> 00:12:15,551 ♪ 276 00:12:34,448 --> 00:12:37,310 - It was really great to watch music 24 hours a day 277 00:12:37,379 --> 00:12:42,655 and visualize the songs and see a story put to it 278 00:12:42,724 --> 00:12:44,793 or just see unrelated images put to it. 279 00:12:44,862 --> 00:12:46,448 And it was also the first time they introduce 280 00:12:46,517 --> 00:12:48,068 this very fast editing, 281 00:12:48,137 --> 00:12:50,862 which now is, you know, gets faster and faster 282 00:12:50,931 --> 00:12:52,413 and we're all, you know... 283 00:12:52,482 --> 00:12:54,931 all have ADD because we're doing something on our Blackberry 284 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,517 and looking at this and listening to that. 285 00:12:56,586 --> 00:12:58,620 But I think MTV actually was the beginning 286 00:12:58,689 --> 00:13:00,310 of that chop chop chop, you know, 287 00:13:00,379 --> 00:13:01,827 chopping up your attention span. 288 00:13:01,896 --> 00:13:04,413 - Well, I thought it was very unique. 289 00:13:04,482 --> 00:13:07,413 Obviously no one had ever seen anything like it before. 290 00:13:07,482 --> 00:13:09,517 - It was like when FM started. 291 00:13:09,586 --> 00:13:11,965 It was a whole new way of listening to music. 292 00:13:12,034 --> 00:13:17,000 And this was a whole... video thing was a whole new way 293 00:13:17,068 --> 00:13:20,413 to incorporate music and see your favorite artists. 294 00:13:20,482 --> 00:13:23,655 - MTV was on at the time or had just been on 295 00:13:23,724 --> 00:13:25,551 for a little while. 296 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:27,896 But they weren't local and they weren't live. 297 00:13:27,965 --> 00:13:30,344 - You know, here in Boston, the two things people talk about 298 00:13:30,413 --> 00:13:32,137 most are sports and weather. 299 00:13:32,206 --> 00:13:35,103 MTV can't do that, channel 66 can. 300 00:13:35,172 --> 00:13:38,482 - When you think of the audacity of starting 301 00:13:38,551 --> 00:13:41,137 a television station and putting something 302 00:13:41,206 --> 00:13:44,068 on the air that's already being done in New York, 303 00:13:44,137 --> 00:13:46,586 and done with a much larger budget and whatever, 304 00:13:46,655 --> 00:13:49,000 I mean that takes some sack. 305 00:13:49,068 --> 00:13:51,379 You gotta really believe in yourself 306 00:13:51,448 --> 00:13:52,793 and got some dough and whatever. 307 00:13:52,862 --> 00:13:56,482 - That's where the idea came from for V66. 308 00:13:56,551 --> 00:13:58,344 It was MTV inspired. 309 00:13:58,413 --> 00:14:00,310 But not because MTV was great 310 00:14:00,379 --> 00:14:01,758 and we were trying to duplicate it. 311 00:14:01,827 --> 00:14:05,137 MTV sucked, we thought we could do it much better. 312 00:14:05,206 --> 00:14:06,965 And I think we did succeed. 313 00:14:07,034 --> 00:14:10,758 ♪ 314 00:14:12,137 --> 00:14:14,620 - Kidder was a medium-sized investment bank 315 00:14:14,689 --> 00:14:18,413 that was probably 100 years old at the time. 316 00:14:18,482 --> 00:14:20,862 John and Arnie came in in 1983, '84. 317 00:14:20,931 --> 00:14:27,310 - Executives at Kidder-Peabody had gone to college in Boston 318 00:14:27,379 --> 00:14:28,862 and listened to me on the radio. 319 00:14:28,931 --> 00:14:33,655 - But the idea was take John's experience 320 00:14:33,724 --> 00:14:38,000 'cause I think John had owned a radio station on the Cape, 321 00:14:38,068 --> 00:14:40,103 built it and then sold it. 322 00:14:40,172 --> 00:14:42,448 Arnie's experience as a DJ, a legendary DJ 323 00:14:42,517 --> 00:14:45,206 in the Boston market, take a construction permit, 324 00:14:45,275 --> 00:14:48,103 build a station, have it 100% music videos, 325 00:14:48,172 --> 00:14:50,482 grow it over the three- to five-year period, 326 00:14:50,551 --> 00:14:53,344 and sell it for a nice profit. 327 00:14:53,413 --> 00:14:57,482 - MTV being hot and sexy is what helped sell it. 328 00:14:57,551 --> 00:14:59,724 - The biggest single operating expense 329 00:14:59,793 --> 00:15:02,551 for all TV stations is programming. 330 00:15:02,620 --> 00:15:06,137 But video music programming costs are comparatively modest. 331 00:15:06,206 --> 00:15:11,827 ♪ 332 00:15:11,896 --> 00:15:13,482 - It was a guy named David Hunter who was 333 00:15:13,551 --> 00:15:15,724 the sales manager at Kidder-Peabody. 334 00:15:15,793 --> 00:15:18,655 We went on a road trip around, all over the country 335 00:15:18,724 --> 00:15:21,827 to the major cities, probably 25 cities, Arnie and I did, 336 00:15:21,896 --> 00:15:25,068 to do the presentation of V66 to the investment bankers 337 00:15:25,137 --> 00:15:29,965 who would sell the investors on buying shares. 338 00:15:30,034 --> 00:15:32,655 I think it was $75,000 a share. 339 00:15:32,724 --> 00:15:37,275 We had to raise $10.5 million to build the TV station. 340 00:15:37,344 --> 00:15:39,896 And you know it wasn't our money, 341 00:15:39,965 --> 00:15:41,793 it was their money. 342 00:15:41,862 --> 00:15:42,689 So they underwrote the deal and they said, 343 00:15:42,758 --> 00:15:44,551 "We'll get this done." 344 00:15:44,620 --> 00:15:48,068 And I remember him saying to these groups 345 00:15:48,137 --> 00:15:50,724 that 30 years ago we were telling you 346 00:15:50,793 --> 00:15:53,965 to invest in steel mills and railroads. 347 00:15:54,034 --> 00:15:55,103 They all went bankrupt. 348 00:15:55,172 --> 00:15:56,275 This is the new technology. 349 00:15:56,344 --> 00:15:58,103 And of course on the issue of the programming 350 00:15:58,172 --> 00:16:01,448 music video locally, the top ten songs in Dallas or Detroit 351 00:16:01,517 --> 00:16:04,448 are not the top ten songs here in Boston. 352 00:16:04,517 --> 00:16:06,758 Our music will be tailored to Boston's taste. 353 00:16:06,827 --> 00:16:11,172 The station was licensed to the city of Marlborough. 354 00:16:11,241 --> 00:16:15,310 Marlborough is not particularly easy to get to from Boston. 355 00:16:15,379 --> 00:16:18,275 Framingham is sort of the center. 356 00:16:18,344 --> 00:16:20,689 It's the center of a community. 357 00:16:20,758 --> 00:16:23,620 It's well known, it's a crossroads of important roads 358 00:16:23,689 --> 00:16:24,896 and it's very easy to get to. 359 00:16:24,965 --> 00:16:26,620 It's 20 minutes from downtown Boston. 360 00:16:26,689 --> 00:16:29,241 So we said, "Where can we put this 361 00:16:29,310 --> 00:16:31,862 "and still satisfy the FCC requirements 362 00:16:31,931 --> 00:16:34,206 of the main studio?" 363 00:16:34,275 --> 00:16:36,758 It would have been great to put it in downtown Boston. 364 00:16:36,827 --> 00:16:39,068 But in 1984, the rules did not permit that. 365 00:16:39,137 --> 00:16:41,827 We picked this brand new building that was being built, 366 00:16:41,896 --> 00:16:43,931 really cutting-edge architecture. 367 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,103 And we spared no expense in making a place, 368 00:16:47,172 --> 00:16:48,482 you know, with a decent budget, 369 00:16:48,551 --> 00:16:51,206 that really could be impressive to advertisers. 370 00:16:51,275 --> 00:16:53,482 - The way John and Arnie found out about me 371 00:16:53,551 --> 00:16:55,344 was because I produced a program in Atlanta 372 00:16:55,413 --> 00:16:56,896 called the Atlanta Rock Review. 373 00:16:56,965 --> 00:16:58,931 - And he really understood the medium. 374 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,620 He understood how to do it, how to produce it, 375 00:17:00,689 --> 00:17:02,000 how to make it look good. 376 00:17:02,068 --> 00:17:04,241 - I got this call and the person on the other end 377 00:17:04,310 --> 00:17:07,758 of the phone said, "This is Arnie Ginsburg, Cruisin' 61, 378 00:17:07,827 --> 00:17:09,758 and we'd like to talk to you about possibly 379 00:17:09,827 --> 00:17:12,034 becoming the director of programming at V66. 380 00:17:12,103 --> 00:17:14,000 - I started actually in radio. 381 00:17:14,068 --> 00:17:15,862 I was a music director of a top 40 radio station 382 00:17:15,931 --> 00:17:18,689 here in New York City called 99X. 383 00:17:18,758 --> 00:17:21,413 And we were a very pioneering station. 384 00:17:21,482 --> 00:17:23,482 - Roxy was totally influential. 385 00:17:23,551 --> 00:17:26,206 She was the best music director anybody could have. 386 00:17:26,275 --> 00:17:28,931 - When I got the phone call, I was just a... 387 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,931 A, very thrilled that he would even consider me 388 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,724 for that job. 389 00:17:35,793 --> 00:17:37,793 And, B, excited about an opportunity 390 00:17:37,862 --> 00:17:42,034 to do something that no one had ever really done before, 391 00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:43,310 which was new and unique. 392 00:17:43,379 --> 00:17:44,517 It wouldn't be like MTV. 393 00:17:44,586 --> 00:17:46,482 It would be better than MTV. 394 00:17:46,551 --> 00:17:49,344 And I said, "Sign me up, I'm ready, I'm there." 395 00:17:51,241 --> 00:17:53,137 - [Narrator] In stereo. 396 00:17:53,206 --> 00:17:55,724 - So you had the rock community based around WBCN. 397 00:17:55,793 --> 00:17:58,896 You have the former disco, now pop community 398 00:17:58,965 --> 00:18:00,724 now based around Kiss 108. 399 00:18:00,793 --> 00:18:02,758 And having had those experiences come together 400 00:18:02,827 --> 00:18:05,241 with Arnie and myself, 401 00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:06,793 understanding how they worked. 402 00:18:06,862 --> 00:18:09,068 - One of the very first things I did 403 00:18:09,137 --> 00:18:10,758 was put an ad in broadcasting magazine 404 00:18:10,827 --> 00:18:13,482 and in radio and records asking if somebody 405 00:18:13,551 --> 00:18:15,344 wanted to be a VJ in Boston. 406 00:18:15,413 --> 00:18:17,793 - Well, I had been doing some TV on the Cape. 407 00:18:17,862 --> 00:18:19,448 I was doing the weather on a cable station 408 00:18:19,517 --> 00:18:20,586 down on the Cape. 409 00:18:20,655 --> 00:18:23,586 I could feel that this was going to be 410 00:18:23,655 --> 00:18:27,448 a big step for me in a totally new direction, 411 00:18:27,517 --> 00:18:30,172 just the experience of auditioning. 412 00:18:30,241 --> 00:18:31,517 - We thought he'd be nice to wake up to. 413 00:18:31,586 --> 00:18:34,310 People wanna wake up to somebody who's not too jarring. 414 00:18:34,379 --> 00:18:36,551 - He had that wonderful curly hair. 415 00:18:36,620 --> 00:18:38,172 I just knew what that was gonna do 416 00:18:38,241 --> 00:18:39,931 to the housewives watching in the morning. 417 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,034 - I was doing a couple of things in New York-- 418 00:18:43,103 --> 00:18:44,862 as I said, the soap opera "One Life to Live" 419 00:18:44,931 --> 00:18:47,689 and on WRTV they had a video show. 420 00:18:47,758 --> 00:18:49,586 I hosted that for four weeks. 421 00:18:49,655 --> 00:18:51,793 And so I had a nice little package to send. 422 00:18:51,862 --> 00:18:54,862 I was getting a little bit bored with radio broadcasting. 423 00:18:54,931 --> 00:18:57,068 I wanted to do the next thing, the next step. 424 00:18:57,137 --> 00:18:59,103 - Perry Stone stood out. 425 00:18:59,172 --> 00:19:01,586 Perry Stone was just a complete whack job. 426 00:19:01,655 --> 00:19:04,793 - The reason why they wanted to turn and watch us 427 00:19:04,862 --> 00:19:07,206 in prime time was because they never were sure 428 00:19:07,275 --> 00:19:09,344 what Perry Stone was going to do. 429 00:19:09,413 --> 00:19:11,482 - I took a publicity picture that I had 430 00:19:11,551 --> 00:19:12,758 from being in rock radio, 431 00:19:12,827 --> 00:19:16,172 which was an intriguing picture. 432 00:19:16,241 --> 00:19:17,827 So I knew that if they looked at the photo, 433 00:19:17,896 --> 00:19:19,241 they would definitely look at the tape. 434 00:19:19,310 --> 00:19:21,758 And I arrived at a place called Bizwiz 435 00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:24,103 at about 7:00 that night. 436 00:19:24,172 --> 00:19:27,000 And I was supposed to be there at 2:00 in the afternoon. 437 00:19:27,068 --> 00:19:28,793 I thought, "This is a great first impression." 438 00:19:28,862 --> 00:19:31,793 And I went flying into the place. 439 00:19:31,862 --> 00:19:33,241 And everybody's just sitting there calmly. 440 00:19:33,310 --> 00:19:36,896 I was like [panting], "I'm looking for David Beadle. 441 00:19:36,965 --> 00:19:37,862 "I'm here for an audition. 442 00:19:37,931 --> 00:19:39,241 Is he still here?" 443 00:19:39,310 --> 00:19:41,206 - I loved Mary Jo. 444 00:19:41,275 --> 00:19:42,931 And so did the audience. 445 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,068 She was every guy's idea of the girl next door 446 00:19:48,137 --> 00:19:51,103 and a lot of parent's idea of the girl next door. 447 00:19:51,172 --> 00:19:54,448 - Auditioned and interviewed and auditioned and interviewed. 448 00:19:54,517 --> 00:19:57,482 He says, "Eh, we'll give you a call in about two weeks." 449 00:19:57,551 --> 00:20:00,517 Six weeks went by and, "Oh, I know I didn't get the job." 450 00:20:00,586 --> 00:20:03,310 - He was very nervous during the audition. 451 00:20:03,379 --> 00:20:07,586 And he felt so bad about it that he went home, 452 00:20:07,655 --> 00:20:10,172 got a video camera and did another audition 453 00:20:10,241 --> 00:20:12,517 and had it on my desk the next morning. 454 00:20:12,586 --> 00:20:14,931 - David was one of our two most popular VJs ever, 455 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,344 he and Mary Jo. 456 00:20:16,413 --> 00:20:17,931 Unquestionably, they were. 457 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,517 - After a little while, they called back and said, 458 00:20:19,586 --> 00:20:20,827 "We'd love to have you on board." 459 00:20:20,896 --> 00:20:22,586 I was thrilled. I mean thrilled. 460 00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:25,344 - But she says she would have done "Bad Girls" anyway. 461 00:20:25,413 --> 00:20:27,172 We had not been able to find... 462 00:20:27,241 --> 00:20:29,275 You know, we had standards as to who you hired 463 00:20:29,344 --> 00:20:30,586 with on-air hosts. 464 00:20:30,655 --> 00:20:32,965 And we had everybody. 465 00:20:33,034 --> 00:20:35,793 Except we didn't have anybody for middays. 466 00:20:35,862 --> 00:20:39,655 So as a fill-in thing, 467 00:20:39,724 --> 00:20:42,172 and also because I'm kind of a ham, 468 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,379 I said, "Well, I'll do it." 469 00:20:43,448 --> 00:20:48,655 - When you picture a television station 470 00:20:48,724 --> 00:20:52,275 presenting a program, you picture cameramen 471 00:20:52,344 --> 00:20:54,689 and stage managers and technicians 472 00:20:54,758 --> 00:20:57,413 and lighting specialists and producers and directors 473 00:20:57,482 --> 00:21:02,000 and an entire busload of people 474 00:21:02,068 --> 00:21:05,103 that are necessary to make a television show happen. 475 00:21:05,172 --> 00:21:08,517 V66 was set up in such a way 476 00:21:08,586 --> 00:21:11,379 that the VJ could literally run the station by himself. 477 00:21:11,448 --> 00:21:15,724 - We thought it was important to humanize the presentation. 478 00:21:15,793 --> 00:21:17,068 And we thought that would be a... 479 00:21:17,137 --> 00:21:20,137 first of all, budgetarily it saves a lot of money 480 00:21:20,206 --> 00:21:24,000 to have a DJ on camera pushing buttons 481 00:21:24,068 --> 00:21:25,724 and kind of making things happen. 482 00:21:25,793 --> 00:21:27,793 It gives kind of like an interesting... 483 00:21:27,862 --> 00:21:29,551 a little more interest to the viewer. 484 00:21:29,620 --> 00:21:32,034 The other was the technology was now making it possible 485 00:21:32,103 --> 00:21:33,172 to do that. 486 00:21:33,241 --> 00:21:35,758 Remember, Arnie and I come from radio 487 00:21:35,827 --> 00:21:40,862 where people running their own controls is the norm. 488 00:21:40,931 --> 00:21:43,448 - You had to go through excruciating training 489 00:21:43,517 --> 00:21:46,551 on how to operate your own equipment, your own camera, 490 00:21:46,620 --> 00:21:48,827 how to do zooms, how to do fades, 491 00:21:48,896 --> 00:21:50,413 how to do makeup. 492 00:21:50,482 --> 00:21:52,931 I mean, it was literally a few months of training 493 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,137 to do all these things. 494 00:21:54,206 --> 00:21:57,103 - When you come from the culture of radio, 495 00:21:57,172 --> 00:21:59,931 there's not a person in radio 496 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,551 who can't do almost everything. 497 00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:03,793 - Probably didn't realize it at the time 498 00:22:03,862 --> 00:22:06,103 but it was a great learning ground for what I do now. 499 00:22:06,172 --> 00:22:09,000 - At this time in Boston, the Cars, 500 00:22:09,068 --> 00:22:11,689 Aerosmith, J. Geils. 501 00:22:11,758 --> 00:22:15,344 Everybody, everything you heard on the radio, 502 00:22:15,413 --> 00:22:18,620 every fourth or fifth song was a Boston band. 503 00:22:18,689 --> 00:22:21,965 And, you know, it was a vibe. 504 00:22:22,034 --> 00:22:25,862 It was, I don't know, something about that place, 505 00:22:25,931 --> 00:22:28,448 that time that made it super special. 506 00:22:28,517 --> 00:22:31,482 - Boston is different from other cities. 507 00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:33,793 Boston has more venues. 508 00:22:33,862 --> 00:22:35,896 Boston has more radio stations 509 00:22:35,965 --> 00:22:38,689 that are receptive to bands they never heard of. 510 00:22:38,758 --> 00:22:41,103 - For a town that didn't have 511 00:22:41,172 --> 00:22:46,206 any real, like, label or studio presence, 512 00:22:46,275 --> 00:22:49,896 there was really a ton of bands 513 00:22:49,965 --> 00:22:51,931 and a ton of recording studios. 514 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,517 - You know, Boston was really kind of being looked at 515 00:22:55,586 --> 00:22:58,103 as the hot scene at that time. 516 00:22:58,172 --> 00:23:01,724 - A lot of bands, you know, were really pushing envelopes 517 00:23:01,793 --> 00:23:03,172 and taking risks. 518 00:23:03,241 --> 00:23:05,965 - Back then, man, you would go see bands 519 00:23:06,034 --> 00:23:07,862 four or five nights a week, you know? 520 00:23:07,931 --> 00:23:09,620 It was people really, really passionate about it. 521 00:23:09,689 --> 00:23:12,517 And you had your clubs and so you're friends with this guy 522 00:23:12,586 --> 00:23:13,793 in this band, and if you were friends with him 523 00:23:13,862 --> 00:23:15,034 then you went to go see all the bands 524 00:23:15,103 --> 00:23:16,551 that they were friends with too. 525 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:18,586 - If you're gonna launch a television station like this, 526 00:23:18,655 --> 00:23:20,517 Boston is a great market 527 00:23:20,586 --> 00:23:22,931 because there were so many bands coming out. 528 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,482 - We felt very strongly about the, you know, 529 00:23:25,551 --> 00:23:28,724 catering to our viewers and making sure that they were 530 00:23:28,793 --> 00:23:32,310 turned on to music that was a part of Boston. 531 00:23:32,379 --> 00:23:35,862 - Boston had a rich, rich, music scene and culture. 532 00:23:35,931 --> 00:23:37,758 But in the shadow of that, you had all 533 00:23:37,827 --> 00:23:40,551 these cutting edge bands that were coming out. 534 00:23:40,620 --> 00:23:43,241 And we were very lucky to be in Boston 535 00:23:43,310 --> 00:23:44,896 where we could exploit that. 536 00:23:44,965 --> 00:23:47,275 - The night before we're gonna go on the air 537 00:23:47,344 --> 00:23:49,034 is February 11th. 538 00:23:49,103 --> 00:23:51,068 And John and Arnie and I go out to dinner 539 00:23:51,137 --> 00:23:54,000 about whether we can go on the air the next day. 540 00:23:54,068 --> 00:23:57,793 And I didn't know until that meeting 541 00:23:57,862 --> 00:23:59,965 that Arnie had already set up so that Channel Four 542 00:24:00,034 --> 00:24:02,793 was gonna do a live shot at 5:30 in the afternoon 543 00:24:02,862 --> 00:24:05,586 from the station and we better be on the air. 544 00:24:05,655 --> 00:24:08,034 So John says, "Well, why don't we go on the air 545 00:24:08,103 --> 00:24:11,689 in the afternoon so we have the morning to get ready?" 546 00:24:11,758 --> 00:24:13,137 And I said, "The heck with that. 547 00:24:13,206 --> 00:24:14,551 "Let's just go on the air at 6:00 a.m. 548 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:17,551 We need all the practice we can get." 549 00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:19,275 That first day on the air was insane. 550 00:24:19,344 --> 00:24:21,758 I got to the station at 5:00 in the morning, 551 00:24:21,827 --> 00:24:24,379 one hour before air time, only to find out 552 00:24:24,448 --> 00:24:25,793 that the transmitter was not yet ready 553 00:24:25,862 --> 00:24:27,862 for going on the air. 554 00:24:27,931 --> 00:24:30,586 They called us up at 5:40 in the morning 555 00:24:30,655 --> 00:24:33,655 from the transmitter site and said, "We can't hear you. 556 00:24:33,724 --> 00:24:35,620 Would you please play a video tape 557 00:24:35,689 --> 00:24:37,379 so we can see if it'll work?" 558 00:24:37,448 --> 00:24:39,517 And we played Glenn Frey's "The Heat is On." 559 00:24:39,586 --> 00:24:42,275 ♪ The heat is... 560 00:24:42,344 --> 00:24:43,551 ♪ On 561 00:24:45,206 --> 00:24:47,896 [zapping] 562 00:24:53,068 --> 00:24:56,241 - [Narrator] V66, the beat goes on. 563 00:24:56,310 --> 00:25:01,586 ♪ 564 00:25:07,103 --> 00:25:10,000 - Yay! 565 00:25:10,068 --> 00:25:11,448 We're on television. 566 00:25:11,517 --> 00:25:12,724 Good morning. 567 00:25:12,793 --> 00:25:15,896 This is the new V66 and I'm Bill Stevens. 568 00:25:15,965 --> 00:25:17,724 And you're witnessing television history. 569 00:25:17,793 --> 00:25:20,482 This is Boston's first music video station 570 00:25:20,551 --> 00:25:22,275 in stereo 24 hours a day. 571 00:25:22,344 --> 00:25:25,172 - This was around the time of Michael Jackson's "Thriller." 572 00:25:25,241 --> 00:25:30,137 It had come out, you know, plus or minus in that timeframe. 573 00:25:30,206 --> 00:25:32,620 And so the whole world of music videos was pretty exciting 574 00:25:32,689 --> 00:25:33,931 at the time. 575 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,793 And we were all excited. 576 00:25:35,862 --> 00:25:38,241 We all thought that this was gonna be... 577 00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:41,000 well, we all knew it was gonna be very exciting opportunity. 578 00:25:41,068 --> 00:25:46,000 - First of all, this is music video WVJB-TV, 579 00:25:46,068 --> 00:25:47,482 which means we are a commercial television station. 580 00:25:47,551 --> 00:25:48,586 Everybody can pick us up. 581 00:25:48,655 --> 00:25:49,931 We're not cable. 582 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,413 Which means you don't have to spend any extra money 583 00:25:51,482 --> 00:25:53,448 to be here every day, which is great. 584 00:25:53,517 --> 00:25:55,620 At the end of your shift, you didn't wanna go home. 585 00:25:55,689 --> 00:25:57,068 I mean I would get off the air at 10:00, 586 00:25:57,137 --> 00:25:58,172 I'd stay there until 3:00 in the afternoon. 587 00:25:58,241 --> 00:25:59,275 I just wanted to be there. 588 00:25:59,344 --> 00:26:02,620 - I mean, my main memory was of John 589 00:26:02,689 --> 00:26:05,689 laughing in the studio, pressing the wrong button 590 00:26:05,758 --> 00:26:08,931 or maybe, ooh, dead air, [laughing]. 591 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,620 It was just... it was just a funny day. 592 00:26:12,689 --> 00:26:17,655 - It was a magical moment when they first went on. 593 00:26:17,724 --> 00:26:21,068 - V66 is New England's music video station. 594 00:26:21,137 --> 00:26:23,275 Stay tuned and make it yours. 595 00:26:23,344 --> 00:26:27,551 - It was also a time when entrepreneurship, 596 00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:32,827 launching brand new things, was happening. 597 00:26:32,896 --> 00:26:35,103 "USA Today" would be a national newspaper. 598 00:26:35,172 --> 00:26:36,793 You'd see it launched. 599 00:26:36,862 --> 00:26:40,793 MTV had been launched not too long previous. 600 00:26:40,862 --> 00:26:43,103 So the idea of a local channel 601 00:26:43,172 --> 00:26:45,482 that you could play music videos on 602 00:26:45,551 --> 00:26:47,000 was really embraced. 603 00:26:47,068 --> 00:26:49,551 It was a really big deal at the time. 604 00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:53,413 - Whoa, how's that for music video, rock fans? 605 00:26:53,482 --> 00:26:56,896 We know what you need and you can only see it here 606 00:26:56,965 --> 00:27:01,413 all day, all night, live on Dave TV! 607 00:27:01,482 --> 00:27:03,172 - I just know that they were doing something 608 00:27:03,241 --> 00:27:07,793 that was really a groundbreaking idea. 609 00:27:07,862 --> 00:27:08,862 So it was just so new you just didn't know 610 00:27:08,931 --> 00:27:10,241 where it was gonna go. 611 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:13,103 - Biggest thrill was getting the station on the air 612 00:27:13,172 --> 00:27:15,586 and then within 60 days, 613 00:27:15,655 --> 00:27:17,620 seeing an explosion of enthusiasm 614 00:27:17,689 --> 00:27:19,172 and positive reception for the station. 615 00:27:19,241 --> 00:27:21,344 'Cause the station just blew its way right into Boston 616 00:27:21,413 --> 00:27:22,586 and everybody loved it. 617 00:27:22,655 --> 00:27:25,862 - As I'm flipping the dial like I normally do 618 00:27:25,931 --> 00:27:28,275 just to randomly see what's going on, I suddenly 619 00:27:28,344 --> 00:27:32,310 come across another music station that is not MTV. 620 00:27:32,379 --> 00:27:36,275 - I'm thinking, music video? 621 00:27:36,344 --> 00:27:37,655 And I don't have to pay for it? 622 00:27:37,724 --> 00:27:40,034 - It had a huge impact because in my town 623 00:27:40,103 --> 00:27:42,275 we hadn't had MTV just yet. 624 00:27:42,344 --> 00:27:44,275 - V66, real in Reading. 625 00:27:44,344 --> 00:27:45,827 - Powerful in Peabody. 626 00:27:45,896 --> 00:27:47,551 - V66, easy in Everett. 627 00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,827 - V66, charming in Chelsea. 628 00:27:49,896 --> 00:27:52,517 - V66, cool in Cambridge. 629 00:27:52,586 --> 00:27:55,137 - What keeps a viewer compelled 630 00:27:55,206 --> 00:27:57,965 is they don't want to see the same old thing. 631 00:27:58,034 --> 00:28:01,793 So, you know, if we could have made that salad 632 00:28:01,862 --> 00:28:04,310 with enough ingredients, people would keep 633 00:28:04,379 --> 00:28:05,344 coming back for more. 634 00:28:05,413 --> 00:28:07,655 - I mean, who likes just one thing? 635 00:28:07,724 --> 00:28:10,896 Who only likes one kind of music? 636 00:28:10,965 --> 00:28:13,586 If a song is great, it's a great song. 637 00:28:13,655 --> 00:28:15,965 - Because it was video and you can get to see the artist 638 00:28:16,034 --> 00:28:17,724 and specially with some of the metal stuff-- 639 00:28:17,793 --> 00:28:20,344 the Motley Crue videos-- they were hysterical. 640 00:28:20,413 --> 00:28:23,000 ♪ Smoking in the boys room [phone ringing] 641 00:28:23,068 --> 00:28:25,586 - Wow, man, like, it's for you. 642 00:28:27,758 --> 00:28:29,241 - Come up my way! 643 00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:31,620 - And so it's like, "Oh, I can listen to some Motley Crue. 644 00:28:31,689 --> 00:28:33,310 This video is really funny." 645 00:28:33,379 --> 00:28:36,586 You know, or whatever, the videos were sort of an entree 646 00:28:36,655 --> 00:28:38,724 to turning you on to that style of music 647 00:28:38,793 --> 00:28:40,827 whether it was metal, whether it was rap. 648 00:28:40,896 --> 00:28:44,448 You know, dance stuff, it's easy to watch the video 649 00:28:44,517 --> 00:28:46,827 and then suddenly guess what, you're singing the song. 650 00:28:46,896 --> 00:28:49,551 - Back then, if you were gonna put an urban song 651 00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:52,482 next to a rock song, people would scream bloody murder-- 652 00:28:52,551 --> 00:28:53,724 "What are you doing?" 653 00:28:53,793 --> 00:28:56,655 But because you had a visual to it, 654 00:28:56,724 --> 00:29:00,068 I think it made it a little bit more palatable for audiences. 655 00:29:00,137 --> 00:29:04,379 - V66 celebrates 66 days on the air 656 00:29:04,448 --> 00:29:07,724 with a big free party Tuesday night, April 23, 657 00:29:07,793 --> 00:29:09,517 at the Metro in Boston. 658 00:29:09,586 --> 00:29:13,310 It's our way of saying thanks for making V66 659 00:29:13,379 --> 00:29:15,310 a rising success! 660 00:29:15,379 --> 00:29:17,379 - If you could probably pick one band 661 00:29:17,448 --> 00:29:19,896 that represented V66, it would probably be the Cars. 662 00:29:19,965 --> 00:29:21,793 'Cause it was Boston, it was rock, 663 00:29:21,862 --> 00:29:24,172 and it was happening. 664 00:29:24,241 --> 00:29:27,517 ["You Might Think" by the Cars playing] 665 00:29:27,586 --> 00:29:31,068 - Incredible band, very cutting edge. 666 00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:33,517 - Sometimes the video gets so ingrained 667 00:29:33,586 --> 00:29:38,896 that it's hard not to think of it when you hear the song. 668 00:29:38,965 --> 00:29:44,068 ♪ All I want is you 669 00:29:44,137 --> 00:29:45,482 - But I remember one day, 670 00:29:45,551 --> 00:29:47,965 Elliot Easton from the Cars showed up 671 00:29:48,034 --> 00:29:51,034 and he had a new Jaguar that he wanted to show to everybody. 672 00:29:51,103 --> 00:29:53,827 So he came up with a brand new green Jaguar, 673 00:29:53,896 --> 00:29:56,000 brought us all outside and drove us 674 00:29:56,068 --> 00:29:59,068 around the lot there outside the building in Natick. 675 00:29:59,137 --> 00:30:02,000 It came back to my friends the next day 676 00:30:02,068 --> 00:30:03,448 and I was like, "You won't believe what happened. 677 00:30:03,517 --> 00:30:06,103 Elliot Easton drove me around in his Jag." 678 00:30:06,172 --> 00:30:10,965 - I couldn't get MTV for a long time. 679 00:30:11,034 --> 00:30:13,689 But I could get V66. [laughing] 680 00:30:13,758 --> 00:30:16,206 - They'd done a really good job in the beginning 681 00:30:16,275 --> 00:30:19,344 of getting PR and getting awareness for the channel 682 00:30:19,413 --> 00:30:21,965 as it was going on because it was a new television station. 683 00:30:22,034 --> 00:30:23,655 - One of the things that we recognized 684 00:30:23,724 --> 00:30:25,379 is get our logo out there. 685 00:30:25,448 --> 00:30:27,551 So bumper stickers are perfect. 686 00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:29,344 I think we had two million bumper stickers. 687 00:30:29,413 --> 00:30:33,172 - [Narrator] Own the road this spring with a Boston classic. 688 00:30:33,241 --> 00:30:36,655 The original V66 bumper sticker. 689 00:30:36,724 --> 00:30:38,793 Essential, roadworthy. 690 00:30:38,862 --> 00:30:41,896 - You couldn't drive any major street 691 00:30:41,965 --> 00:30:46,000 without seeing a car eventually with a V66 sticker. 692 00:30:46,068 --> 00:30:48,724 - But I want one for my personal vehicle. 693 00:30:48,793 --> 00:30:50,344 - And then we ordered a couple million more 694 00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:52,103 once those were gone. 695 00:30:52,172 --> 00:30:55,482 - [Narrator] V66 premieres a new music video 696 00:30:55,551 --> 00:30:57,137 each weekday at 4:10. 697 00:30:57,206 --> 00:30:58,655 Don't miss it. 698 00:30:58,724 --> 00:31:01,103 You help decide the fate of the video 699 00:31:01,172 --> 00:31:03,068 later that same night. 700 00:31:03,137 --> 00:31:06,034 Music video premieres, every weekday at 4:10 701 00:31:06,103 --> 00:31:08,000 on the new V66. 702 00:31:08,068 --> 00:31:10,344 - We turned the programming of the music 703 00:31:10,413 --> 00:31:11,517 over to the listener. 704 00:31:11,586 --> 00:31:13,482 We didn't leave it to record sales 705 00:31:13,551 --> 00:31:16,206 or any of those phony baloney measures of popularity. 706 00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:19,206 - [Narrator] The V66 video test weekdays with David O'Leary. 707 00:31:19,275 --> 00:31:21,172 You'll preview a brand new video. 708 00:31:21,241 --> 00:31:23,896 Next, call the V66 V line at 931-1066 709 00:31:23,965 --> 00:31:25,103 and rate it from one to ten. 710 00:31:25,172 --> 00:31:27,413 - It could be a video by the Cars 711 00:31:27,482 --> 00:31:30,862 or Michael Jackson or David Lee Roth, 712 00:31:30,931 --> 00:31:32,931 or it could be some local band. 713 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,758 It's almost like putting that local band 714 00:31:35,827 --> 00:31:37,758 on the same playing field as Bruce Springsteen 715 00:31:37,827 --> 00:31:39,896 or Hall and Oates or some of these major national acts, 716 00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:40,896 but it was always cool. 717 00:31:40,965 --> 00:31:43,275 - We wanted to have video battles 718 00:31:43,344 --> 00:31:45,379 so that we could get the audience to participate. 719 00:31:45,448 --> 00:31:46,758 We wanted the audience to feel 720 00:31:46,827 --> 00:31:49,206 like they were part of the station because they were. 721 00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:50,793 Not only did we have request lines 722 00:31:50,862 --> 00:31:52,379 but we had the video battles. 723 00:31:52,448 --> 00:31:53,896 We had the tests. 724 00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:56,034 - You always had to try to make sure 725 00:31:56,103 --> 00:31:57,827 that people weren't stuffing the ballot box 726 00:31:57,896 --> 00:32:00,379 by calling, "Give it a ten, give it a ten." 727 00:32:00,448 --> 00:32:02,068 The "American Idol" thing where, you know, 728 00:32:02,137 --> 00:32:04,689 people just vote and vote and vote. 729 00:32:04,758 --> 00:32:07,103 - Till Tuesday, a Boston band that won the WBCN 730 00:32:07,172 --> 00:32:09,310 Rock and Roll Rumble a couple years ago, 731 00:32:09,379 --> 00:32:11,068 they were just signed to Epic Records. 732 00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:12,965 And they have a brand new video. 733 00:32:17,482 --> 00:32:24,379 - And V66 helped us to really work into that whole scene. 734 00:32:24,448 --> 00:32:28,034 - There really is a thing that you call star power. 735 00:32:28,103 --> 00:32:30,103 Like Aimee has a lot of that. 736 00:32:30,172 --> 00:32:33,103 It was just like, "Nobody's gonna tell me 737 00:32:33,172 --> 00:32:34,310 what I'm going to do. 738 00:32:34,379 --> 00:32:38,000 I'm going to do, you know, what I want." 739 00:32:38,068 --> 00:32:39,827 - Aimee Mann and Til Tuesday coming to Metro 740 00:32:39,896 --> 00:32:41,206 on Thursday the 16th. 741 00:32:41,275 --> 00:32:46,862 - You have Aimee Mann, this beautiful blonde woman 742 00:32:46,931 --> 00:32:50,034 in this dramatic relationship with a guy 743 00:32:50,103 --> 00:32:51,724 who's abusive and beats her up. 744 00:32:51,793 --> 00:32:53,758 So it's about something that's very contemporary. 745 00:32:53,827 --> 00:32:55,724 It was a brand new issue in 1985. 746 00:32:55,793 --> 00:32:59,517 - It was great to see V66 sort of launch them 747 00:32:59,586 --> 00:33:02,689 and help sort of launch them and make them big nationally. 748 00:33:02,758 --> 00:33:04,172 - Roxy brought it to us and we said, 749 00:33:04,241 --> 00:33:05,931 "Let's put it in right away." 750 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,241 And it went number on in requests. 751 00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:10,241 - And they actually thanked V66 and let them put 752 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:12,068 the gold album in their lobby. 753 00:33:12,137 --> 00:33:13,689 - I mean, there was the local angle 754 00:33:13,758 --> 00:33:15,000 'cause it was a local band. 755 00:33:15,068 --> 00:33:16,862 But also that they shot the video locally 756 00:33:16,931 --> 00:33:18,862 and you can see the brownstones on Commonwealth Avenue 757 00:33:18,931 --> 00:33:22,000 that were in a couple of scenes of the video. 758 00:33:22,068 --> 00:33:23,896 And it really was, it was like a success story. 759 00:33:23,965 --> 00:33:26,310 - Oh back we go again with more great videos. 760 00:33:26,379 --> 00:33:28,586 - He wanted the station to be hip. 761 00:33:28,655 --> 00:33:30,103 He wanted it to have street feel. 762 00:33:30,172 --> 00:33:34,172 He wanted to have an edge that matched 763 00:33:34,241 --> 00:33:36,655 the lightning bolt that goes through the logo. 764 00:33:36,724 --> 00:33:40,482 And so my job was to give that station 765 00:33:40,551 --> 00:33:44,931 a feeling that it was in touch with the Boston market. 766 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,965 [dramatic music] 767 00:33:48,034 --> 00:33:51,689 - [Narrator] V66, the beat of Boston. 768 00:33:51,758 --> 00:33:54,482 - Arnie "Woo Woo" Ginsburg and John Garabedian 769 00:33:54,551 --> 00:33:56,517 were radio legends. 770 00:33:56,586 --> 00:33:58,448 When V66 was announced, 771 00:33:58,517 --> 00:34:01,172 it was announced with much fanfare, 772 00:34:01,241 --> 00:34:04,931 largely because of the cache value of these two guys. 773 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,793 And I don't know anything about the financial side 774 00:34:06,862 --> 00:34:08,517 but I understood they got investors, 775 00:34:08,586 --> 00:34:09,931 they got a television station. 776 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,275 Even then, and especially even now, 777 00:34:11,344 --> 00:34:12,448 that's not easy to do. 778 00:34:12,517 --> 00:34:15,689 - You know to this day I think John is just 779 00:34:15,758 --> 00:34:19,241 one of the most talented people ever in my industry. 780 00:34:19,310 --> 00:34:21,103 - I was below the ladder. 781 00:34:21,172 --> 00:34:24,068 He still took the time when he did see to walk up 782 00:34:24,137 --> 00:34:25,275 and say hello and ask how everything was going, 783 00:34:25,344 --> 00:34:26,965 which says a lot about his character. 784 00:34:27,034 --> 00:34:33,034 - And John was very good at motivating people 785 00:34:33,103 --> 00:34:36,655 to go beyond thinking... 786 00:34:36,724 --> 00:34:39,275 he wanted people to think outside the box. 787 00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:42,068 Okay, yes, we are limited but we can. 788 00:34:42,137 --> 00:34:44,241 - John always like to be laughing 789 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:46,448 is pretty much how I saw it. 790 00:34:46,517 --> 00:34:47,965 And even when things weren't going well, 791 00:34:48,034 --> 00:34:49,482 John always had a joke to make. 792 00:34:49,551 --> 00:34:52,137 [mumbling] 793 00:34:52,206 --> 00:34:54,172 - As we all go through life, 794 00:34:54,241 --> 00:34:56,413 we are all hit all the time 795 00:34:56,482 --> 00:34:59,344 with issues, problems and drama. 796 00:34:59,413 --> 00:35:04,793 And most people, I think, don't handle drama well. 797 00:35:04,862 --> 00:35:07,551 They get all-- ah! 798 00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:10,896 And it's like screw it, you gotta learn to say screw it 799 00:35:10,965 --> 00:35:12,172 early in life. 800 00:35:12,241 --> 00:35:15,275 [rock music] 801 00:35:15,344 --> 00:35:18,275 - [Narrator] Hear and see Boston's best music video 802 00:35:18,344 --> 00:35:21,344 only here on the new V66. 803 00:35:21,413 --> 00:35:23,931 - So we're very fortunate that... 804 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000 there's a great wealth of music here. 805 00:35:26,068 --> 00:35:28,000 The bands are active and creative 806 00:35:28,068 --> 00:35:29,965 and submitting music videos every week. 807 00:35:30,034 --> 00:35:31,551 - I mean, we weren't shooting a lot of videos 808 00:35:31,620 --> 00:35:33,586 on behalf of bands, but we would do what we could 809 00:35:33,655 --> 00:35:35,689 to encourage them to find somebody to shoot your video 810 00:35:35,758 --> 00:35:38,551 at Emerson or wherever. 811 00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:39,793 And we'll put it on the air. 812 00:35:39,862 --> 00:35:41,793 ♪ 813 00:35:41,862 --> 00:35:44,172 - John Garabedian told me, he said, 814 00:35:44,241 --> 00:35:46,620 "We did everything in our power 815 00:35:46,689 --> 00:35:49,275 to make this band happen." 816 00:35:49,344 --> 00:35:53,068 He said he made sure that we were in heavy rotation. 817 00:35:53,137 --> 00:35:59,379 John personally talked about throwing a life preserver. 818 00:35:59,448 --> 00:36:02,517 - You could be in a rotation with national 819 00:36:02,586 --> 00:36:06,344 and international acts as a local band 820 00:36:06,413 --> 00:36:09,965 and everybody and their brother was watching V66. 821 00:36:10,034 --> 00:36:13,034 So V66 was like a shot in the arm for anybody 822 00:36:13,103 --> 00:36:14,137 who had a video on there. 823 00:36:14,206 --> 00:36:19,206 - This is Three Colors on V66. 824 00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:21,482 - But it became apparent that this was a, 825 00:36:21,551 --> 00:36:25,275 you know, an opportunity for bands to get their, 826 00:36:25,344 --> 00:36:27,310 get to be heard locally and outside 827 00:36:27,379 --> 00:36:30,137 of the metropolitan area. 828 00:36:30,206 --> 00:36:32,689 - Boston's own Lizzie Borden and the Axes 829 00:36:32,758 --> 00:36:35,310 made V66 video battle history 830 00:36:35,379 --> 00:36:38,931 by being the first band to win 12 consecutive nights. 831 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,862 Number 23, "Out of Touch." 832 00:36:41,931 --> 00:36:44,206 - They played two videos and people would call in 833 00:36:44,275 --> 00:36:45,862 and say which one they liked better. 834 00:36:45,931 --> 00:36:47,896 And it was like battle of the band videos. 835 00:36:47,965 --> 00:36:52,862 And we won 12 times in a row. 836 00:36:52,931 --> 00:36:54,517 Not just against other local bands. 837 00:36:54,586 --> 00:36:57,103 We beat out, like, David Bowie's video. 838 00:36:57,172 --> 00:36:58,482 ♪ Down... 839 00:36:58,551 --> 00:37:00,517 - We were overjoyed because once again 840 00:37:00,586 --> 00:37:02,586 this was back in the days when there was no internet, 841 00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:04,689 no YouTube, nothing like that. 842 00:37:04,758 --> 00:37:07,586 And so we had this video, as many bands did. 843 00:37:07,655 --> 00:37:10,000 And if MTV wasn't playing it, you're stuck with a product 844 00:37:10,068 --> 00:37:11,586 that you couldn't show anywhere. 845 00:37:11,655 --> 00:37:13,517 - I didn't even know sometimes whether the local bands 846 00:37:13,586 --> 00:37:16,103 were local or if they're from Europe. 847 00:37:16,172 --> 00:37:18,000 When I first saw Ball and Pivot, 848 00:37:18,068 --> 00:37:19,551 when I saw the "Down" video, am I gonna think 849 00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:21,241 that they're necessarily from Boston? 850 00:37:21,310 --> 00:37:22,689 Not necessarily. 851 00:37:22,758 --> 00:37:25,000 I mean it looked a lot like Duran Duran, the video did. 852 00:37:25,068 --> 00:37:29,827 - I might as well face the fact that it's a dirty, dirty job. 853 00:37:29,896 --> 00:37:33,068 - Hi, Sue. - Hello, Sue. 854 00:37:33,137 --> 00:37:34,344 - But somebody's gotta do it. 855 00:37:34,413 --> 00:37:36,448 - The fact that I did do news 856 00:37:36,517 --> 00:37:38,241 and some entertainment reporting, 857 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:41,482 I sort of stood out from the VJ world on that station. 858 00:37:41,551 --> 00:37:43,586 Good evening, this is the V66 news update. 859 00:37:43,655 --> 00:37:44,724 I'm Susan Beauchamp. 860 00:37:44,793 --> 00:37:46,655 - Please give me a call on the V line. 861 00:37:46,724 --> 00:37:48,965 The number is 931-1066. 862 00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:50,827 Write it down, keep it close to your heart. 863 00:37:50,896 --> 00:37:51,965 If there's something special 864 00:37:52,034 --> 00:37:53,379 that would just make your Tuesday. 865 00:37:53,448 --> 00:37:56,586 What I brought to the table, aside from youth and enthusiasm, 866 00:37:56,655 --> 00:37:59,310 is that I had experience in television. 867 00:37:59,379 --> 00:38:01,965 I knew how to put pictures and sound on TV. 868 00:38:02,034 --> 00:38:03,482 Hi, I'm Tracy Cox. 869 00:38:03,551 --> 00:38:05,655 If you're heading to the slopes for this holiday weekend, 870 00:38:05,724 --> 00:38:07,827 you won't need as many layers of clothing. 871 00:38:07,896 --> 00:38:10,655 - V66 was clearly instrumental in this market 872 00:38:10,724 --> 00:38:13,758 and in New England of breaking Aha 873 00:38:13,827 --> 00:38:16,586 due to the fact that the video was being played 874 00:38:16,655 --> 00:38:17,965 on this outlet before it was available 875 00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:19,551 to national video outlets. 876 00:38:19,620 --> 00:38:21,931 And it was also played before the record was being exposed 877 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,379 on radio stations in this market. 878 00:38:23,448 --> 00:38:24,965 - I remember how huge that was for us 879 00:38:25,034 --> 00:38:26,724 because we broke that record. 880 00:38:26,793 --> 00:38:30,448 Because we had it before MTV made it a hit nationally. 881 00:38:30,517 --> 00:38:32,551 We made it a hit in the northeast. 882 00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:34,068 - We fell in love with them. 883 00:38:34,137 --> 00:38:35,655 We thought, "This is great." 884 00:38:35,724 --> 00:38:37,689 It's so cutting edge with the drawings 885 00:38:37,758 --> 00:38:40,206 and the song was a great song, 886 00:38:40,275 --> 00:38:42,172 really hooky little pop song. 887 00:38:42,241 --> 00:38:45,103 So we put it in on hot rotation and, bang, 888 00:38:45,172 --> 00:38:46,827 went number one. 889 00:38:46,896 --> 00:38:48,448 Kiss 108 started playing it. 890 00:38:48,517 --> 00:38:50,068 I think BCN started playing it. 891 00:38:50,137 --> 00:38:52,482 - I saw what the number one video was, by the way. 892 00:38:52,551 --> 00:38:55,344 - The number one video was "Take on Me" by Aha, Sunny. 893 00:38:55,413 --> 00:38:57,862 - That song was called "Take On Me." 894 00:38:57,931 --> 00:39:01,379 Very, very shortly after V66 started programming it, 895 00:39:01,448 --> 00:39:04,344 we were getting reports of people walking 896 00:39:04,413 --> 00:39:06,000 into record stores looking for that record 897 00:39:06,068 --> 00:39:07,827 before it was even available 898 00:39:07,896 --> 00:39:09,620 and before it was even serviced to radio. 899 00:39:09,689 --> 00:39:11,344 That's probably the best example 900 00:39:11,413 --> 00:39:13,724 of the power of V66 in this territory. 901 00:39:13,793 --> 00:39:18,034 - The band came in to do a live interview at V66. 902 00:39:18,103 --> 00:39:21,206 The keyboard player, this blond kid, 903 00:39:21,275 --> 00:39:24,551 and the receptionist, who was pretty attractive, 904 00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:26,379 started chatting, they hit it off. 905 00:39:26,448 --> 00:39:27,620 She ended up going to see the band 906 00:39:27,689 --> 00:39:29,896 perform that night in Boston. 907 00:39:29,965 --> 00:39:32,862 And they ended up getting married. 908 00:39:32,931 --> 00:39:36,689 - "King of Rock" was the most requested music video 909 00:39:36,758 --> 00:39:38,896 on the station in the station's history. 910 00:39:38,965 --> 00:39:42,137 - You guys don't belong in here. [laughing] 911 00:39:42,206 --> 00:39:44,482 - I don't know if it was Bud Melman, 912 00:39:44,551 --> 00:39:47,482 the character who opens the door to let them in 913 00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:49,827 through the front door 914 00:39:49,896 --> 00:39:53,137 or whether it was the mix of the rap with the rock, 915 00:39:53,206 --> 00:39:55,724 but it was an unbelievably successful video. 916 00:39:55,793 --> 00:39:59,413 And one that because we played it so often, 917 00:39:59,482 --> 00:40:02,482 definitely got a lot of viewers to come to the station. 918 00:40:02,551 --> 00:40:04,482 - We were playing rap. 919 00:40:04,551 --> 00:40:06,551 We were playing a fair amount of rap as I remember. 920 00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:11,724 [hip hop music] 921 00:40:11,793 --> 00:40:14,068 - [rapping]: Don't spend your weeknights all alone. 922 00:40:14,137 --> 00:40:16,586 Yeah, hang out with me, I'm Perry Stone. 923 00:40:16,655 --> 00:40:18,724 Music videos are what I got 924 00:40:18,793 --> 00:40:21,241 to keep your evenings fresh and hot. 925 00:40:21,310 --> 00:40:23,793 Grab the kids and grandma too. 926 00:40:23,862 --> 00:40:26,000 It's something new and fun to do. 927 00:40:26,068 --> 00:40:27,896 Forget the rest, I've got the best. 928 00:40:27,965 --> 00:40:30,275 I'll put the others to the test. 929 00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:32,068 Here's the facts on where and when, 930 00:40:32,137 --> 00:40:34,620 V66, 6:00 to 10:00. 931 00:40:34,689 --> 00:40:37,724 - MTV had what they called exclusive 932 00:40:37,793 --> 00:40:40,827 if you remember... anyone out there remember watching MTV 933 00:40:40,896 --> 00:40:43,413 when they would say "world exclusive." 934 00:40:43,482 --> 00:40:48,275 That meant that for stations like V66 and our friends 935 00:40:48,344 --> 00:40:51,793 at U68, we couldn't play the video for six months. 936 00:40:51,862 --> 00:40:55,448 But I had found out that if the band owned the rights 937 00:40:55,517 --> 00:41:00,931 to their own video that I could challenge that law with MTV. 938 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,724 ♪ Now look at them yoyos 939 00:41:03,793 --> 00:41:05,482 - 'Cause at this point from our request lines, 940 00:41:05,551 --> 00:41:07,379 "Money for Nothing" was our most requested video. 941 00:41:07,448 --> 00:41:09,931 And we were not allowed to play it. 942 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,103 And I thought that was really unfair. 943 00:41:12,172 --> 00:41:15,655 So I called the manager of Dire Straits. 944 00:41:15,724 --> 00:41:20,000 The manager was totally behind us 945 00:41:20,068 --> 00:41:21,931 and wanted us to play the video. 946 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,448 He goes, "Well, then put it on the air. 947 00:41:23,517 --> 00:41:25,413 "And if anyone calls you to take it off, 948 00:41:25,482 --> 00:41:27,103 tell them they have to call me." 949 00:41:27,172 --> 00:41:28,448 We flew with it on the air 950 00:41:28,517 --> 00:41:31,241 and literally within like an hour, 951 00:41:31,310 --> 00:41:32,724 the Warner Brothers rep calls me up 952 00:41:32,793 --> 00:41:34,103 and she goes, "I don't know what you just did 953 00:41:34,172 --> 00:41:36,827 "but you just started World War III here. 954 00:41:36,896 --> 00:41:38,793 "We've got MTV on the phone over here barking at us. 955 00:41:38,862 --> 00:41:40,413 "We've got the manager over here saying 956 00:41:40,482 --> 00:41:43,172 we want everyone to play our videos." 957 00:41:43,241 --> 00:41:46,000 ♪ Look at that, look at that 958 00:41:46,068 --> 00:41:49,551 ♪ I want my, I want my 959 00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:52,344 ♪ I want my MTV 960 00:41:52,413 --> 00:41:54,000 - First look at it now from Bob and Zip, 961 00:41:54,068 --> 00:41:55,103 "Just a Big Ego." 962 00:41:56,241 --> 00:41:58,689 [upbeat music] 963 00:42:02,068 --> 00:42:03,896 - We were kind of dabbling in the song parody thing, 964 00:42:03,965 --> 00:42:05,448 Bob and I. 965 00:42:05,517 --> 00:42:08,827 We put this song together, but we didn't... we had a problem. 966 00:42:08,896 --> 00:42:10,724 We didn't have a David Lee Roth. 967 00:42:10,793 --> 00:42:13,034 But this guy called and sang for us on the phone. 968 00:42:13,103 --> 00:42:15,586 Dead, dead on ringer. 969 00:42:15,655 --> 00:42:17,275 We met him. 970 00:42:17,344 --> 00:42:19,586 We went, "Jackpot!" 971 00:42:19,655 --> 00:42:21,275 He looked just like David Lee Roth. 972 00:42:21,344 --> 00:42:22,689 We say we've gotta do a video 973 00:42:22,758 --> 00:42:24,275 because the guy looks just like him. 974 00:42:24,344 --> 00:42:27,862 So we got a whole bunch of people out on Revere Beach. 975 00:42:27,931 --> 00:42:29,862 - We were really surprised that it really did so good. 976 00:42:29,931 --> 00:42:33,689 - And John Garabedian loved it. 977 00:42:33,758 --> 00:42:35,827 And the next thing I knew, 978 00:42:35,896 --> 00:42:40,793 V66 was banging this video 979 00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:43,103 over and over again. 980 00:42:43,172 --> 00:42:47,103 I heard it was a huge success, hugely popular. 981 00:42:47,172 --> 00:42:52,241 - Everyone at the Live Aid show, which was fantastic 982 00:42:52,310 --> 00:42:54,275 and we got the rights to broadcast in Boston. 983 00:42:54,344 --> 00:42:56,965 - [Narrator] It's coming, Live Aid. 984 00:42:57,034 --> 00:42:58,586 The greatest collection of rock musicians 985 00:42:58,655 --> 00:43:00,551 ever assembled for one event in the history 986 00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:01,965 of the world. 987 00:43:02,034 --> 00:43:04,551 Live Aid, beginning at 7:00 a.m., Saturday, July 13, 988 00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:05,896 by satellite from London. 989 00:43:05,965 --> 00:43:08,103 At noon we join the Philadelphia concert. 990 00:43:08,172 --> 00:43:11,275 Join V66 for this once in a lifetime history-making event. 991 00:43:11,344 --> 00:43:13,241 - The potential for music to change the world 992 00:43:13,310 --> 00:43:14,689 has always been there. 993 00:43:14,758 --> 00:43:17,379 And Live Aid was really a step in the right direction. 994 00:43:17,448 --> 00:43:22,172 - That was a giant moment in my generation's youth. 995 00:43:22,241 --> 00:43:25,620 - One of the biggest music events of all time. 996 00:43:25,689 --> 00:43:28,793 - That was pretty amazing event. 997 00:43:28,862 --> 00:43:30,413 It was just so big. 998 00:43:30,482 --> 00:43:32,517 Just look out and, you know. 999 00:43:32,586 --> 00:43:36,103 What a mass of humanity. [laughing] 1000 00:43:36,172 --> 00:43:37,931 - We were able to broadcast what was 1001 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,448 the nationally syndicated portion of that 1002 00:43:40,517 --> 00:43:43,000 even though MTV had their piece of it. 1003 00:43:43,068 --> 00:43:44,862 And ABC had their piece of it. 1004 00:43:44,931 --> 00:43:46,896 We were able to do it almost 24 hours. 1005 00:43:46,965 --> 00:43:49,517 - [Narrator] The Live Aid concert, Saturday, July 13, 1006 00:43:49,586 --> 00:43:51,379 in Philadelphia and London. 1007 00:43:51,448 --> 00:43:54,344 And V66 wants to send you. 1008 00:43:54,413 --> 00:43:56,034 - For us to be able to do a sweepstakes 1009 00:43:56,103 --> 00:43:58,793 that involved getting somebody to actually go 1010 00:43:58,862 --> 00:44:00,758 to these places, that was huge for us. 1011 00:44:00,827 --> 00:44:03,551 - [Narrator] V66 sent Plainville's 1012 00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:05,034 Mary Ellen Morowitz to London, 1013 00:44:05,103 --> 00:44:07,724 Natick's Marcia Rutledge and family to Philly 1014 00:44:07,793 --> 00:44:11,413 and V66 brought Live Aid home to you. 1015 00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:16,103 [rock music] 1016 00:44:16,172 --> 00:44:21,206 - I think that was our highest rating by far 1017 00:44:21,275 --> 00:44:22,758 of everything that we did. 1018 00:44:22,827 --> 00:44:24,724 - [Narrator] With your help, Live Aid raised millions 1019 00:44:24,793 --> 00:44:26,068 for famine relief. 1020 00:44:26,137 --> 00:44:29,379 When it happens in music, Boston's new V66 1021 00:44:29,448 --> 00:44:31,620 takes you there! 1022 00:44:31,689 --> 00:44:36,344 ♪ Mother, don't wanna go to school today 1023 00:44:36,413 --> 00:44:40,068 - Extreme, which is where we got the name Extreme. 1024 00:44:40,137 --> 00:44:41,793 ♪ 1025 00:44:41,862 --> 00:44:45,413 ♪ Mother, don't wanna go to school today 1026 00:44:45,482 --> 00:44:46,724 - Scott was just brilliant. 1027 00:44:46,793 --> 00:44:48,068 He got great ideas. 1028 00:44:48,137 --> 00:44:49,551 He came up with a great storyline. 1029 00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:54,379 - We had another band from Medford, Malden called Extreme. 1030 00:44:54,448 --> 00:44:57,103 And they had this little homemade video by this kid 1031 00:44:57,172 --> 00:44:59,586 who went to Emerson College, who went on to make... 1032 00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:01,965 become a big video producer called, 1033 00:45:02,034 --> 00:45:04,965 "Mutha, Don't Wanna Go to School Today." 1034 00:45:05,034 --> 00:45:06,689 And it was shot at Melrose High School. 1035 00:45:06,758 --> 00:45:07,689 We thought, "This is great!" 1036 00:45:07,758 --> 00:45:09,137 It's a great video. 1037 00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:11,241 It's got great spirit, it's got great energy. 1038 00:45:11,310 --> 00:45:12,758 And it's local. 1039 00:45:12,827 --> 00:45:15,034 So on it went, and wham, went to number one. 1040 00:45:15,103 --> 00:45:18,103 - This was a platform locally that just played every day. 1041 00:45:18,172 --> 00:45:19,551 And it really helped. 1042 00:45:19,620 --> 00:45:22,586 I mean, between that and local radio stations at the time. 1043 00:45:22,655 --> 00:45:26,551 - In the case of Extreme, I believe we had a hand 1044 00:45:26,620 --> 00:45:29,517 in them going to get a record deal. 1045 00:45:29,586 --> 00:45:32,586 - We were being catapulted forward by this whole... 1046 00:45:32,655 --> 00:45:35,413 you know, the video thing that was happening. 1047 00:45:35,482 --> 00:45:38,551 The heavy rotation on V66, the airplay. 1048 00:45:38,620 --> 00:45:43,241 ♪ Mother, don't wanna go to school today 1049 00:45:43,310 --> 00:45:45,241 - Join us weekdays. - For more in your morning. 1050 00:45:45,310 --> 00:45:48,862 - [Narrator] Ian and Susan, mornings on V66. 1051 00:45:48,931 --> 00:45:50,482 - [Ian And Susan] The beat of Boston. 1052 00:45:50,551 --> 00:45:52,586 - It was like I died and gone to heaven. 1053 00:45:52,655 --> 00:45:54,655 Working TV, I'm hanging out with rock stars, 1054 00:45:54,724 --> 00:45:56,379 there's this great local music scene, 1055 00:45:56,448 --> 00:45:58,000 you know, and I'm getting paid to do it. 1056 00:45:58,068 --> 00:45:59,551 - He was the kid. 1057 00:45:59,620 --> 00:46:01,206 Like he was a couple of years younger than all of us. 1058 00:46:01,275 --> 00:46:03,172 We were all in our early 20s I think. 1059 00:46:03,241 --> 00:46:04,620 And he was just a couple years younger. 1060 00:46:04,689 --> 00:46:06,793 - And one full hour of your requests. 1061 00:46:06,862 --> 00:46:08,862 We talk on the air, you and I. 1062 00:46:08,931 --> 00:46:10,206 And we play your favorite video. 1063 00:46:10,275 --> 00:46:11,448 Live line is always a gas. 1064 00:46:11,517 --> 00:46:13,310 It was very much a big family. 1065 00:46:13,379 --> 00:46:15,413 I don't remember there being a lot 1066 00:46:15,482 --> 00:46:16,862 of big ego clashes or anything like that. 1067 00:46:16,931 --> 00:46:22,206 - One of my top three favorite places to work ever. 1068 00:46:22,275 --> 00:46:24,068 Because it just was so ridiculous 1069 00:46:24,137 --> 00:46:25,758 how everybody got along. 1070 00:46:25,827 --> 00:46:27,862 - Rides... - Games... 1071 00:46:27,931 --> 00:46:29,310 - Cotton Candy. 1072 00:46:29,379 --> 00:46:32,379 - [Everyone] And V66. 1073 00:46:32,448 --> 00:46:34,827 - [Narrator] It's a rockin' time, Sunday, July 28. 1074 00:46:34,896 --> 00:46:37,517 V66 Day at Whalom Park. 1075 00:46:37,586 --> 00:46:41,103 Fun, fantastic, fabulous entertainment for all. 1076 00:46:41,172 --> 00:46:42,862 Be with the V. 1077 00:46:42,931 --> 00:46:44,620 - Join us for a whale of a good time. 1078 00:46:44,689 --> 00:46:46,137 - Sunday, July 28. 1079 00:46:46,206 --> 00:46:48,689 - V66 day at Whalom Park! 1080 00:46:48,758 --> 00:46:50,241 - I don't know anyone that worked there 1081 00:46:50,310 --> 00:46:51,724 that didn't love it. 1082 00:46:51,793 --> 00:46:56,758 And if you get... if you're put in that type of environment, 1083 00:46:56,827 --> 00:47:00,000 when you look forward to going to work every day, 1084 00:47:00,068 --> 00:47:02,758 that's all you can ask for. 1085 00:47:02,827 --> 00:47:05,275 That's all you can ask for in life. 1086 00:47:05,344 --> 00:47:07,758 - I'm excited to introduce Anne Saxon, 1087 00:47:07,827 --> 00:47:09,896 who's our latest addition to the V66 lineup. 1088 00:47:09,965 --> 00:47:11,137 How you doing? 1089 00:47:11,206 --> 00:47:13,206 - Good. I'm happy to be here. - Welcome. 1090 00:47:13,275 --> 00:47:16,206 - Anne Saxon was sexy. 1091 00:47:16,275 --> 00:47:19,620 And we needed somebody who would keep the guys up all night, 1092 00:47:19,689 --> 00:47:20,793 and she filled the bill. 1093 00:47:20,862 --> 00:47:25,517 - At first, it was a little lonely. 1094 00:47:25,586 --> 00:47:28,896 But then after a while there seemed to be 1095 00:47:28,965 --> 00:47:33,206 a group of people who didn't make me feel so lonely, 1096 00:47:33,275 --> 00:47:35,517 where I did have calls coming in. 1097 00:47:35,586 --> 00:47:37,793 This is the Del Fuegos from their album 1098 00:47:37,862 --> 00:47:43,068 entitled "Boston, Mass.," Don't Run Wild here on V66. 1099 00:47:43,137 --> 00:47:48,068 ["Don't Run Wild" by the Del Fuegos playing] 1100 00:47:52,758 --> 00:47:54,896 - The Del Fuegos, who were great, 1101 00:47:54,965 --> 00:47:58,827 they were kind of like the biggest of that kind of scene. 1102 00:47:58,896 --> 00:48:01,275 - The think that got my attention about V66 1103 00:48:01,344 --> 00:48:03,413 was Woo Woo Ginsburg. 1104 00:48:03,482 --> 00:48:07,103 The fact that Woo Woo was doing this video channel was... 1105 00:48:07,172 --> 00:48:09,586 that was important to me. 1106 00:48:09,655 --> 00:48:12,172 - [Narrator] V66 Celebrity Open House. 1107 00:48:12,241 --> 00:48:16,034 - We're the Del Fuegos, your pals from outer space. 1108 00:48:16,103 --> 00:48:18,965 - Join us this week on Celebrity Open House. 1109 00:48:19,034 --> 00:48:22,655 - There's one thing about the "Don't Run Wild" video 1110 00:48:22,724 --> 00:48:26,413 is that we were proud of Boston. 1111 00:48:26,482 --> 00:48:30,620 And we wanted Boston to be right there in the background. 1112 00:48:30,689 --> 00:48:36,241 - People that didn't live in the inner Boston area 1113 00:48:36,310 --> 00:48:40,034 were getting turned on to the group because of V66. 1114 00:48:40,103 --> 00:48:42,241 So the outer suburbs kids who started coming 1115 00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:44,034 to the Channel shows and that kind of thing. 1116 00:48:44,103 --> 00:48:47,206 - Thank God for V66, man. 1117 00:48:47,275 --> 00:48:52,172 Because, you know, V66 was responsible for capturing 1118 00:48:52,241 --> 00:48:54,931 all of those great musicians. 1119 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,517 - The woman on everyone's mind I guess is Gloria. 1120 00:48:57,586 --> 00:48:59,689 So I guess we're gonna check out her progress right here. 1121 00:48:59,758 --> 00:49:01,448 There she be, right there, yeah. 1122 00:49:01,517 --> 00:49:03,137 The update on Gloria is like this. 1123 00:49:03,206 --> 00:49:04,586 One of the most dangerous hurricanes, of course, 1124 00:49:04,655 --> 00:49:06,655 of the century is in the Atlantic, 1125 00:49:06,724 --> 00:49:09,137 460 miles slightly east of due south. 1126 00:49:09,206 --> 00:49:12,344 Winds are currently estimated at 130 miles per hour. 1127 00:49:12,413 --> 00:49:16,241 Forecasters aren't sure whether it will hit New England, 1128 00:49:16,310 --> 00:49:17,448 but the situation could change. 1129 00:49:17,517 --> 00:49:20,310 - And the transformer in front of the building 1130 00:49:20,379 --> 00:49:23,448 just blows up in flames. 1131 00:49:23,517 --> 00:49:25,482 And all the lights go out. 1132 00:49:25,551 --> 00:49:27,896 And I go, "Oh shit." [laughing] 1133 00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:29,172 We're off the air. 1134 00:49:29,241 --> 00:49:33,344 An hour later, the lights came back on. 1135 00:49:33,413 --> 00:49:36,413 He wired us into the building emergency generator. 1136 00:49:36,482 --> 00:49:40,724 - So we got on the air but there was no sound. 1137 00:49:40,793 --> 00:49:42,655 And I think we might have put a picture 1138 00:49:42,724 --> 00:49:44,137 or something up you know. 1139 00:49:44,206 --> 00:49:46,586 And the camera was like a test pattern for a little while. 1140 00:49:46,655 --> 00:49:49,758 And then finally we got a single video cassette player. 1141 00:49:49,827 --> 00:49:54,137 - So we were on the air showing videos with no audio. 1142 00:49:54,206 --> 00:49:56,620 - And a lot of people were like, "How can we do that?" 1143 00:49:56,689 --> 00:49:58,586 And he said, "You know what, we gotta stay on the air." 1144 00:49:58,655 --> 00:49:59,758 - We finally got the audio back 1145 00:49:59,827 --> 00:50:01,310 and finally things started to work. 1146 00:50:01,379 --> 00:50:04,931 - To me that's... you know, that's what John was great at 1147 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,172 was, "You know what, we're gonna be"-- 1148 00:50:07,241 --> 00:50:08,758 and that's where I learned it is-- 1149 00:50:08,827 --> 00:50:10,241 "You know what, there's a hurricane coming. 1150 00:50:10,310 --> 00:50:13,620 "We're gonna be on the air live during the hurricane 1151 00:50:13,689 --> 00:50:15,206 telling everybody about it." 1152 00:50:15,275 --> 00:50:17,413 Other people might just go, "You know what, run... 1153 00:50:17,482 --> 00:50:21,620 "Let's run, you know, 400 videos back to back 1154 00:50:21,689 --> 00:50:23,482 so that everybody can get out of here and be safe." 1155 00:50:23,551 --> 00:50:26,793 But he wouldn't do that. 1156 00:50:26,862 --> 00:50:30,137 And, in turn, everybody who worked there 1157 00:50:30,206 --> 00:50:31,482 took a lot of pride in, 1158 00:50:31,551 --> 00:50:33,310 "All right, we're gonna cover this hurricane. 1159 00:50:33,379 --> 00:50:35,448 "We're a music video station 1160 00:50:35,517 --> 00:50:36,655 but we're gonna cover this hurricane." 1161 00:50:36,724 --> 00:50:38,586 - People obviously were watching. 1162 00:50:38,655 --> 00:50:40,862 People had somehow either had battery televisions 1163 00:50:40,931 --> 00:50:44,896 or had enough power and were able to tune in V66. 1164 00:50:44,965 --> 00:50:46,413 We were trying to get out there 1165 00:50:46,482 --> 00:50:49,137 and they were trying to see what we were doing. 1166 00:50:49,206 --> 00:50:50,827 ["Centerfold" by J Geils Band playing] 1167 00:50:50,896 --> 00:50:52,206 ♪ Come on! 1168 00:50:52,275 --> 00:50:54,206 ♪ 1169 00:50:54,275 --> 00:50:57,379 - I guess an actor, an actress would say it's like 1170 00:50:57,448 --> 00:51:01,241 doing a movie as opposed to a stage show. 1171 00:51:01,310 --> 00:51:03,931 You know, when you're onstage, you do it, it's live, 1172 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,724 it comes out, it's gone. 1173 00:51:05,793 --> 00:51:09,275 When doing a video, it's like doing a record. 1174 00:51:09,344 --> 00:51:12,724 Or I'm dating myself, a CD. 1175 00:51:12,793 --> 00:51:14,931 - ♪ The memory of my angel 1176 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,379 - We weren't finished playing and we had material 1177 00:51:19,448 --> 00:51:20,862 and thought we'd give it a try. 1178 00:51:20,931 --> 00:51:25,862 - J. Geils Band and Fright Night here on WVJV Channel 66. 1179 00:51:25,931 --> 00:51:29,655 - John and Arnie were always very good to us. 1180 00:51:29,724 --> 00:51:32,068 - I remember interviewing Nikki Sixx 1181 00:51:32,137 --> 00:51:33,344 and I don't know if you remember the story or not, 1182 00:51:33,413 --> 00:51:38,137 but Nikki came up on my show and was really high. 1183 00:51:38,206 --> 00:51:40,034 He wasn't drunk, he was just really high. 1184 00:51:40,103 --> 00:51:41,689 And he was wildly entertaining as an interview 1185 00:51:41,758 --> 00:51:43,206 but right in the middle of the interview, 1186 00:51:43,275 --> 00:51:46,068 he sneezes or blows his nose or something. 1187 00:51:46,137 --> 00:51:47,206 And we're live. 1188 00:51:47,275 --> 00:51:48,689 There wasn't any tape delay on V66. 1189 00:51:48,758 --> 00:51:50,000 And then he blows his nose and he looks down 1190 00:51:50,068 --> 00:51:51,413 at the napkin. 1191 00:51:51,482 --> 00:51:53,448 He looks at me and he goes, well there goes 50 bucks. 1192 00:51:53,517 --> 00:51:55,206 Because he was just so high on blow. 1193 00:51:55,275 --> 00:51:56,758 And meanwhile I can hear my producer in the other room 1194 00:51:56,827 --> 00:51:58,275 go [chuckling] 1195 00:51:58,344 --> 00:52:01,482 - I sort of got it around the time of V66, 1196 00:52:01,551 --> 00:52:02,793 especially when the bands would come in, 1197 00:52:02,862 --> 00:52:05,068 that the good ones understand 1198 00:52:05,137 --> 00:52:08,724 that this is part of their job, doing this TV thing 1199 00:52:08,793 --> 00:52:10,241 where they come in and they sit down 1200 00:52:10,310 --> 00:52:12,206 next to you and you pretend you're friends for ten minutes. 1201 00:52:12,275 --> 00:52:14,103 - Hi, New England, this is Pat Benatar 1202 00:52:14,172 --> 00:52:16,137 and you're watching V66, New England's favorite 1203 00:52:16,206 --> 00:52:18,275 music video station in stereo. 1204 00:52:18,344 --> 00:52:20,379 - The Bangles were there, that was a memorable day. 1205 00:52:20,448 --> 00:52:22,172 - We're the Bangles. 1206 00:52:22,241 --> 00:52:24,724 - And you're watching V66. 1207 00:52:24,793 --> 00:52:26,275 - The beat of Boston. 1208 00:52:26,344 --> 00:52:27,413 - Right on. 1209 00:52:27,482 --> 00:52:28,172 - Peter Frampton. 1210 00:52:28,241 --> 00:52:29,344 - Run DMC. 1211 00:52:29,413 --> 00:52:31,068 - Michael Hutchence from INXS. 1212 00:52:31,137 --> 00:52:32,965 - [Narrator] See your favorite video stars 1213 00:52:33,034 --> 00:52:35,413 or Boston celebrities host an hour 1214 00:52:35,482 --> 00:52:37,137 of their all time favorite videos. 1215 00:52:37,206 --> 00:52:40,448 - This is called "Against All Odds" on the V. 1216 00:52:40,517 --> 00:52:43,517 - Mick Jones from the Clash at the time 1217 00:52:43,586 --> 00:52:45,034 from Big Audio Dynamite. 1218 00:52:45,103 --> 00:52:47,241 - You ought to get out at Strawberry's Midnight Madness 1219 00:52:47,310 --> 00:52:49,310 if you wanna catch playing the whole album 1220 00:52:49,379 --> 00:52:50,862 on the fourth of October. 1221 00:52:50,931 --> 00:52:53,241 Be there or be square. 1222 00:52:53,310 --> 00:52:54,655 - Emo Phillips. 1223 00:52:54,724 --> 00:52:57,172 He was kind of weird but funny. 1224 00:52:57,241 --> 00:52:59,413 - My name is Emo. 1225 00:52:59,482 --> 00:53:02,655 ♪ 1226 00:53:02,724 --> 00:53:05,793 - The guys for Duran Duran came in. 1227 00:53:05,862 --> 00:53:07,827 - Hi, this is Cheech. 1228 00:53:07,896 --> 00:53:09,448 - And this is Chong. 1229 00:53:09,517 --> 00:53:10,448 - And we're Led Zeppelin. 1230 00:53:10,517 --> 00:53:11,827 - They were great too. 1231 00:53:11,896 --> 00:53:14,068 But since we were such a full service station 1232 00:53:14,137 --> 00:53:15,827 in the entertainment realm, 1233 00:53:15,896 --> 00:53:17,931 not even necessarily with music, but entertainment, 1234 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,517 we had a lot of people walking in and out of that place. 1235 00:53:20,586 --> 00:53:22,206 - V66 just made it hard for us to go to school 1236 00:53:22,275 --> 00:53:23,586 after a while, man. 1237 00:53:23,655 --> 00:53:25,413 We couldn't step off to school without getting mobbed. 1238 00:53:25,482 --> 00:53:27,137 - Audience participation. 1239 00:53:27,206 --> 00:53:29,965 Get the audience involved in your radio station. 1240 00:53:30,034 --> 00:53:31,724 And it doesn't matter how you do it. 1241 00:53:31,793 --> 00:53:33,206 That's not important. 1242 00:53:33,275 --> 00:53:34,931 Doesn't matter if the contest is some corny question 1243 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,275 or some listening, wait to hear the bell go off. 1244 00:53:39,344 --> 00:53:41,965 It just matters you get them involved 1245 00:53:42,034 --> 00:53:43,034 and you get them listening 1246 00:53:43,103 --> 00:53:45,482 and you make the station sticky. 1247 00:53:45,551 --> 00:53:48,034 So contesting is an important part of that. 1248 00:53:48,103 --> 00:53:51,758 - And since V66 is the first stereo TV station 1249 00:53:51,827 --> 00:53:54,068 in the Boston area, we're giving away four 1250 00:53:54,137 --> 00:53:58,413 of these RCA 25-inch stereo color TV sets. 1251 00:53:58,482 --> 00:54:00,275 - We had to give away concert tickets. 1252 00:54:00,344 --> 00:54:01,551 We had to give away albums. 1253 00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:02,931 You had to give away music videos. 1254 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,827 You had to give away those things 1255 00:54:04,896 --> 00:54:07,206 that radio stations were giving away to compete. 1256 00:54:07,275 --> 00:54:09,655 - And I was so excited and I got through. 1257 00:54:09,724 --> 00:54:11,275 And then they said my name on the thing 1258 00:54:11,344 --> 00:54:14,206 and I was like, "Oh, my God... I got Tina... I got Tina tickets." 1259 00:54:14,275 --> 00:54:16,172 It was my very first concert. I was so excited. 1260 00:54:16,241 --> 00:54:19,655 - Both my brother and I won tickets off V66 1261 00:54:19,724 --> 00:54:21,862 to see Prince for the Purple Rain tour. 1262 00:54:21,931 --> 00:54:25,103 And we also won tickets to see Julian Lennon at the Orpheum. 1263 00:54:25,172 --> 00:54:27,241 - [Narrator] V66 and MCA Records invite you 1264 00:54:27,310 --> 00:54:29,172 to an unforgettable weekend with Roxy 1265 00:54:29,241 --> 00:54:32,034 at the Roxy in LA to see Charlie Sexton live. 1266 00:54:32,103 --> 00:54:34,000 You'll enjoy VIP seats at the Roxy in LA 1267 00:54:34,068 --> 00:54:35,758 and a live concert with Charlie Sexton. 1268 00:54:35,827 --> 00:54:38,655 - V66, the beat of Boston. 1269 00:54:38,724 --> 00:54:41,206 - It's the name the V baby contest. 1270 00:54:41,275 --> 00:54:43,827 So this has been established that this child has no name. 1271 00:54:43,896 --> 00:54:45,103 It's homely and it has no name. 1272 00:54:45,172 --> 00:54:48,172 - Get ready, V66 big bucks is coming. 1273 00:54:48,241 --> 00:54:50,896 We want you to find one of the dollar bills 1274 00:54:50,965 --> 00:54:52,103 we've secretly circulated throughout 1275 00:54:52,172 --> 00:54:53,448 the greater Boston viewing area. 1276 00:54:53,517 --> 00:54:56,413 - People all over New England were looking for 1277 00:54:56,482 --> 00:54:58,034 this particular dollar bill 1278 00:54:58,103 --> 00:54:59,689 with this particular serial number 1279 00:54:59,758 --> 00:55:01,551 and that got us incredible buzz 1280 00:55:01,620 --> 00:55:03,586 because when people started reading their dollar bills, 1281 00:55:03,655 --> 00:55:05,241 other people would say, what are you doing 1282 00:55:05,310 --> 00:55:06,310 reading the dollar bill? 1283 00:55:06,379 --> 00:55:09,068 - V66 big bucks. 1284 00:55:09,137 --> 00:55:14,137 Your chance to win up to 66,000 dollar bills featuring moi. 1285 00:55:14,206 --> 00:55:16,482 - And the idea was then they'd say, 1286 00:55:16,551 --> 00:55:18,517 "Oh, well, on V66 they're having a contest. 1287 00:55:18,586 --> 00:55:20,620 "And if you find the right dollar bill, 1288 00:55:20,689 --> 00:55:22,103 you're gonna get a lot of money." 1289 00:55:22,172 --> 00:55:24,655 And so pretty soon everybody was going to say, "Oh, wow." 1290 00:55:24,724 --> 00:55:26,965 And then they started watching V66. 1291 00:55:27,034 --> 00:55:28,586 It was like the best free advertising in the world 1292 00:55:28,655 --> 00:55:30,000 and the best word of mouth advertising. 1293 00:55:30,068 --> 00:55:34,068 - Hi, I'm Tim Kelly and I just won $21,000 1294 00:55:34,137 --> 00:55:36,517 playing V66 big bucks. 1295 00:55:36,586 --> 00:55:38,724 $21,00. - You bet. 1296 00:55:38,793 --> 00:55:41,448 - Television and radio are two different businesses, 1297 00:55:41,517 --> 00:55:43,965 and when you come from a different culture 1298 00:55:44,034 --> 00:55:45,896 into the new culture, 1299 00:55:45,965 --> 00:55:48,068 you see opportunities that they never saw before. 1300 00:55:48,137 --> 00:55:51,724 I look at the guys who invented YouTube and Facebook, 1301 00:55:51,793 --> 00:55:56,275 and MySpace not as geniuses but as young people 1302 00:55:56,344 --> 00:55:57,896 who looked at a world and said, 1303 00:55:57,965 --> 00:56:00,137 "Why isn't somebody doing this?" 1304 00:56:00,206 --> 00:56:03,206 It just was totally natural to them. 1305 00:56:03,275 --> 00:56:06,517 So when you have radio people going into television, 1306 00:56:06,586 --> 00:56:10,275 they see, "Why don't they do this? Why don't you do that?" 1307 00:56:10,344 --> 00:56:12,137 - ♪ We built this city 1308 00:56:12,206 --> 00:56:14,172 - One of the great things that we did was 1309 00:56:14,241 --> 00:56:17,310 we did our own video. 1310 00:56:17,379 --> 00:56:20,000 Built our own video for "We Built This City." 1311 00:56:20,068 --> 00:56:23,517 And made it all about rock and roll in Boston. 1312 00:56:23,586 --> 00:56:27,241 - John came to me one day, okay. 1313 00:56:27,310 --> 00:56:31,379 He was hot to get "We Built This City" 1314 00:56:31,448 --> 00:56:32,586 on the air. 1315 00:56:32,655 --> 00:56:35,034 Problem was is that he couldn't 1316 00:56:35,103 --> 00:56:37,551 because MTV had the exclusive rights to it. 1317 00:56:37,620 --> 00:56:39,517 I go into one of these edit suites 1318 00:56:39,586 --> 00:56:42,724 and it must have been ten, 12 days later 1319 00:56:42,793 --> 00:56:43,896 I came out with this thing. 1320 00:56:43,965 --> 00:56:45,172 - I was beating on him. 1321 00:56:45,241 --> 00:56:46,793 "Jay, when is this gonna be done?" 1322 00:56:46,862 --> 00:56:48,862 It was day after day and he'd get dragged away 1323 00:56:48,931 --> 00:56:50,413 for other projects and I'd say, 1324 00:56:50,482 --> 00:56:53,655 "Well, can't somebody else do that and you can finish this?" 1325 00:56:53,724 --> 00:56:55,793 'Cause the song was so big and it was great. 1326 00:56:55,862 --> 00:56:57,172 I ended up finishing it. 1327 00:56:57,241 --> 00:56:58,655 He got about halfway through it 1328 00:56:58,724 --> 00:57:00,827 and then he had some other thing he had to work on. 1329 00:57:00,896 --> 00:57:02,965 So I said, "All right, I'll do it." 1330 00:57:03,034 --> 00:57:06,206 So I went in and I spent a day and knocked it out. 1331 00:57:06,275 --> 00:57:08,896 Not the best use of the CEO's time, but it was fun. 1332 00:57:08,965 --> 00:57:10,137 [laughing] 1333 00:57:10,206 --> 00:57:15,000 - I still watch it frequently. [chuckles] 1334 00:57:15,068 --> 00:57:17,068 I show it to other people. 1335 00:57:17,137 --> 00:57:19,275 Because it has a whole series of photographs of me. 1336 00:57:19,344 --> 00:57:21,551 - Probably nowhere else in the country 1337 00:57:21,620 --> 00:57:23,413 would it have any relevance to anybody. 1338 00:57:23,482 --> 00:57:25,793 But I think for people that were familiar with the station 1339 00:57:25,862 --> 00:57:29,758 and they see that video, they connect with the idea 1340 00:57:29,827 --> 00:57:33,689 that for one brief moment, V66 really was 1341 00:57:33,758 --> 00:57:39,034 the musical vital signs of the city. 1342 00:57:39,103 --> 00:57:41,310 - [Narrator] Live at the palace last Saturday night, 1343 00:57:41,379 --> 00:57:43,896 Miss Hawaiian Tropic showed offer her tan, 1344 00:57:43,965 --> 00:57:47,137 Lenny Clarke laughed it up with Sunny Joe White, 1345 00:57:47,206 --> 00:57:50,241 and Perry Stone made his dancing debut with Mary Jo. 1346 00:57:50,310 --> 00:57:51,620 - The Palace. 1347 00:57:51,689 --> 00:57:53,896 Sunny Joe White used to do it, God rest his soul. 1348 00:57:53,965 --> 00:57:57,241 And then they had me do it. 1349 00:57:57,310 --> 00:58:03,448 It was just your typical really cheesy '80s nightclub scene. 1350 00:58:03,517 --> 00:58:07,206 You know, the mode of dress was just so over-the-top. 1351 00:58:07,275 --> 00:58:09,344 It was like John Hughes movie. 1352 00:58:09,413 --> 00:58:12,586 Like Z Cavariccis and kind of those Duran Duran boots. 1353 00:58:12,655 --> 00:58:14,551 And a lot handkerchiefs and that sort of stuff. 1354 00:58:14,620 --> 00:58:16,793 And I was just as guilty as anybody else. 1355 00:58:16,862 --> 00:58:19,586 You know, I mean, I had a whole wardrobe full of that stuff. 1356 00:58:19,655 --> 00:58:20,965 You know, so Mr. Stonewash. 1357 00:58:21,034 --> 00:58:23,379 - [Narrator] Boston at night, a city that lives 1358 00:58:23,448 --> 00:58:25,551 for the evening and the excitement. 1359 00:58:25,620 --> 00:58:28,655 Now be a part of the night in the world's greatest city 1360 00:58:28,724 --> 00:58:31,206 as Ian O'Malley takes you to Boston's hottest nightspots 1361 00:58:31,275 --> 00:58:33,793 with the people, the stories, and the videos 1362 00:58:33,862 --> 00:58:35,862 that make the city come alive. 1363 00:58:35,931 --> 00:58:37,689 Boston Beat with Ian O'Malley. 1364 00:58:37,758 --> 00:58:38,862 - And nobody had done that. 1365 00:58:38,931 --> 00:58:40,620 There was no television station, 1366 00:58:40,689 --> 00:58:43,000 first of all it was rock and roll and, you know, 1367 00:58:43,068 --> 00:58:46,586 nobody on on any of the television stations here 1368 00:58:46,655 --> 00:58:48,068 would do anything. 1369 00:58:48,137 --> 00:58:49,827 Channel four, channel five, channel seven, 1370 00:58:49,896 --> 00:58:52,517 they didn't do anything covering music. 1371 00:58:52,586 --> 00:58:56,206 So nobody would ever broadcast from a Prince show before. 1372 00:58:56,275 --> 00:58:59,689 Nobody had ever had a concert on television 1373 00:58:59,758 --> 00:59:01,000 with the Del Fuegos. 1374 00:59:01,068 --> 00:59:03,241 So it was just like electric. 1375 00:59:03,310 --> 00:59:05,862 - I know Prince played at the Metro. 1376 00:59:05,931 --> 00:59:07,655 Like a surprise concert at the Metro. 1377 00:59:07,724 --> 00:59:11,275 - [Narrator] V66, your ticket to the best concerts, 1378 00:59:11,344 --> 00:59:13,655 music video WVJV. 1379 00:59:13,724 --> 00:59:17,896 - I remember going to Rush, Twisted Sister. 1380 00:59:17,965 --> 00:59:19,620 - I remember the Tina Turner Concert. 1381 00:59:19,689 --> 00:59:21,068 - Well, we did a live show 1382 00:59:21,137 --> 00:59:22,620 from a John Cougar concert one night. 1383 00:59:22,689 --> 00:59:26,758 - We went to Motley Crue together and Tears for Fears. 1384 00:59:26,827 --> 00:59:31,620 And Dire Straits was the most awesome ever. 1385 00:59:31,689 --> 00:59:34,965 - Aerosmith, bad boys of Boston. 1386 00:59:35,034 --> 00:59:36,689 Roxy talked to them earlier today. 1387 00:59:36,758 --> 00:59:37,827 Roxy, how'd it go? 1388 00:59:37,896 --> 00:59:39,034 - Unbelievable. 1389 00:59:39,103 --> 00:59:40,586 A band that I had been listening to 1390 00:59:40,655 --> 00:59:44,620 for so many years that I loved. 1391 00:59:44,689 --> 00:59:47,310 And here I was on top of the world 1392 00:59:47,379 --> 00:59:49,206 literally and figuratively 1393 00:59:49,275 --> 00:59:54,620 talking about this-this return to Aerosmith's hometown. 1394 00:59:54,689 --> 00:59:58,344 - That was a a technical nightmare of the day for us 1395 00:59:58,413 --> 01:00:00,827 because we got picture but no sound. 1396 01:00:00,896 --> 01:00:06,137 So I remember and it was all about the microwave 1397 01:00:06,206 --> 01:00:07,931 that wasn't really working between our station 1398 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,689 and the satellite and the whole... the dish and all that. 1399 01:00:11,758 --> 01:00:14,275 And it was just like yikes. 1400 01:00:14,344 --> 01:00:15,862 And then when we did get some audio, 1401 01:00:15,931 --> 01:00:17,034 it almost sounded like you were listening to it 1402 01:00:17,103 --> 01:00:18,206 through a telephone. 1403 01:00:18,275 --> 01:00:20,689 - Steven Tyler from the stage was getting ready 1404 01:00:20,758 --> 01:00:22,448 to introduce "Lightning Strikes." 1405 01:00:22,517 --> 01:00:24,172 And at that time it was the only video 1406 01:00:24,241 --> 01:00:25,724 by Aerosmith that we'd been playing. 1407 01:00:25,793 --> 01:00:28,862 And he thanked V66. 1408 01:00:28,931 --> 01:00:31,827 - You all know this. 1409 01:00:31,896 --> 01:00:34,758 V66 number one video all week, 1410 01:00:34,827 --> 01:00:36,448 a song that we put out a long time ago. 1411 01:00:36,517 --> 01:00:38,586 - And everybody in the audience started going, "V, V, V." 1412 01:00:38,655 --> 01:00:39,862 It was... wow. 1413 01:00:39,931 --> 01:00:47,172 ♪ It's dog eat dog when you meet your rival 1414 01:00:47,241 --> 01:00:49,655 ♪ In the combat zone it's a means of survival 1415 01:00:49,724 --> 01:00:51,103 - Hi I'm Ron Belleville, 1416 01:00:51,172 --> 01:00:53,793 I'm the winner for V66 drawing for the day. 1417 01:00:53,862 --> 01:00:55,310 This is my wife Grace. 1418 01:00:55,379 --> 01:00:56,689 We're having an incredible time. 1419 01:00:56,758 --> 01:00:58,724 Thank you, V66. 1420 01:00:58,793 --> 01:01:01,034 - One of my favorite metal LPs of all time 1421 01:01:01,103 --> 01:01:02,586 is from Aerosmith. 1422 01:01:02,655 --> 01:01:03,413 It's "Night in the Ruts." 1423 01:01:03,482 --> 01:01:07,482 ♪ 1424 01:01:11,965 --> 01:01:14,413 - If you're watching me, you're watching the V. 1425 01:01:14,482 --> 01:01:17,034 Stereo video rocks 66. 1426 01:01:17,103 --> 01:01:22,000 ♪ Let the music do the talking 1427 01:01:22,068 --> 01:01:24,862 - It was great to have them come by. 1428 01:01:24,931 --> 01:01:27,206 And we'll get them all in the studio and it was a blast. 1429 01:01:27,275 --> 01:01:28,482 - Hi, I'm Steven Tyler. 1430 01:01:28,551 --> 01:01:30,000 - And I'm Joe Perry. 1431 01:01:30,068 --> 01:01:33,724 - The toxic twins of Aerosmith, and you're watching V66. 1432 01:01:33,793 --> 01:01:36,310 - Boston rock video in stereo. 1433 01:01:36,379 --> 01:01:37,310 Would you sing "Back in the Saddle"? 1434 01:01:37,379 --> 01:01:38,344 - Nah. 1435 01:01:38,413 --> 01:01:41,310 - And to come here to Boston 1436 01:01:41,379 --> 01:01:44,172 where Aerosmith was actually friends with John Garabedian 1437 01:01:44,241 --> 01:01:45,655 and hung out at the studio 1438 01:01:45,724 --> 01:01:47,068 and I got to interview them 1439 01:01:47,137 --> 01:01:48,413 I don't even know how many times. 1440 01:01:48,482 --> 01:01:52,034 - And you're rocking on V66 in stereo. 1441 01:01:52,103 --> 01:01:55,034 - And I would sit there with my VHS VCR 1442 01:01:55,103 --> 01:01:58,068 and sit there and wait for Aerosmith videos 1443 01:01:58,137 --> 01:02:01,172 and record the interview that they had 1444 01:02:01,241 --> 01:02:03,862 and just watching over and over until I wore out the VHS. 1445 01:02:03,931 --> 01:02:07,896 - It was not uncommon for them to just drop by unannounced. 1446 01:02:07,965 --> 01:02:11,068 Of course there were the announced visits. 1447 01:02:11,137 --> 01:02:13,241 But sometimes you'll just be walking down the hall 1448 01:02:13,310 --> 01:02:14,517 and for no apparent reason 1449 01:02:14,586 --> 01:02:16,551 Steven Tyler would walk right by the other way. 1450 01:02:16,620 --> 01:02:18,655 - And if you want to rock tonight, baby, 1451 01:02:18,724 --> 01:02:21,517 watch the V66 Aerosmith. 1452 01:02:21,586 --> 01:02:23,965 - I think V66 in a lot of ways is quite responsible 1453 01:02:24,034 --> 01:02:28,517 for saving Aerosmith's ass in a lot of ways. 1454 01:02:28,586 --> 01:02:29,793 I mean that nicely. 1455 01:02:29,862 --> 01:02:31,827 We got behind them and eventually, of course, 1456 01:02:31,896 --> 01:02:33,275 on their own efforts and new management 1457 01:02:33,344 --> 01:02:34,724 and that sort of thing, they cleaned up their act. 1458 01:02:34,793 --> 01:02:37,517 And of course they've been, for a number of years, 1459 01:02:37,586 --> 01:02:39,689 back really on top of their game. 1460 01:02:39,758 --> 01:02:42,965 - [Narrator] Get ready to watch V66 1461 01:02:43,034 --> 01:02:45,172 for the hottest party in town. 1462 01:02:45,241 --> 01:02:49,172 The V66 New Year's Eve party live from the Metro. 1463 01:02:49,241 --> 01:02:52,103 - Probably the most fun in live television I've ever had 1464 01:02:52,172 --> 01:02:53,448 was that night. 1465 01:02:53,517 --> 01:02:57,172 - It is the way to do 1985, a just ending. 1466 01:02:57,241 --> 01:03:00,413 - [Crowd] Three, two, one! 1467 01:03:00,482 --> 01:03:03,172 [cheering] 1468 01:03:03,241 --> 01:03:05,655 - I mean it's just neat that so many people 1469 01:03:05,724 --> 01:03:09,068 wanted to be partying with V66 to ring in the new year. 1470 01:03:09,137 --> 01:03:13,241 I mean it was, you were like a friend to so many people. 1471 01:03:13,310 --> 01:03:15,827 - All right, we are here live at Metro. 1472 01:03:15,896 --> 01:03:17,758 I'm Tracy Cox filling in for Sunny Joe White, 1473 01:03:17,827 --> 01:03:20,862 who is lost somewhere in this incredible crowd. 1474 01:03:20,931 --> 01:03:23,655 As you know, we are about ten minutes into this new year 1475 01:03:23,724 --> 01:03:25,206 and we are having such a party. 1476 01:03:25,275 --> 01:03:27,965 - What was the best highlight of the past year for you? 1477 01:03:28,034 --> 01:03:32,172 - Mary Jo, turning on the TV and seeing you. 1478 01:03:32,241 --> 01:03:34,586 - Look out, Miami, the Pats are gonna burst your bubbles 1479 01:03:34,655 --> 01:03:37,241 and go to the Super Bowl, yeah! 1480 01:03:37,310 --> 01:03:41,310 ♪ New England, the Patriots and we. 1481 01:03:41,379 --> 01:03:43,482 ♪ Here's a V for victory 1482 01:03:43,551 --> 01:03:47,000 - It was made with a lot of Boston personalities in it. 1483 01:03:47,068 --> 01:03:50,586 - It was a reflection of just how carefree 1484 01:03:50,655 --> 01:03:54,344 and unconventional our whole approach 1485 01:03:54,413 --> 01:03:56,482 to the television medium was. 1486 01:03:56,551 --> 01:04:01,137 ♪ New England, the Patriots and we. 1487 01:04:01,206 --> 01:04:03,103 - And then, you know, we get buried in the Super Bowl, 1488 01:04:03,172 --> 01:04:05,379 so you know I wish we had a better way 1489 01:04:05,448 --> 01:04:07,931 of putting a period on on the whole experience. 1490 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,206 - It's been a year. 1491 01:04:09,275 --> 01:04:10,482 Has it been good for you? 1492 01:04:10,551 --> 01:04:11,793 It's been great for me, our first anniversary. 1493 01:04:11,862 --> 01:04:14,034 - It was quite an accomplishment at the station 1494 01:04:14,103 --> 01:04:16,965 to be on the air and certainly on the air 1495 01:04:17,034 --> 01:04:18,000 for as long as we were. 1496 01:04:18,068 --> 01:04:20,448 - Happy birthday, V66! 1497 01:04:20,517 --> 01:04:22,034 From Face to Face. 1498 01:04:22,103 --> 01:04:25,862 - Happy birthday, V66, from Big Julio Dynamite. 1499 01:04:25,931 --> 01:04:28,068 - Hi, I'm Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue. 1500 01:04:28,137 --> 01:04:31,206 I'd like to wish V66 a happy birthday. 1501 01:04:31,275 --> 01:04:32,586 - This is Rick Nielsen of Cheap Trick 1502 01:04:32,655 --> 01:04:34,517 and happy birthday, V66. 1503 01:04:34,586 --> 01:04:36,310 - I'm Joey V. - Kevin. 1504 01:04:36,379 --> 01:04:37,448 - Gene. 1505 01:04:37,517 --> 01:04:38,551 - Louie of Mass. 1506 01:04:38,620 --> 01:04:39,655 And we like to wish V66... 1507 01:04:39,724 --> 01:04:41,137 - [Everyone] A happy birthday! 1508 01:04:41,206 --> 01:04:43,344 - Live from the Metro! 1509 01:04:43,413 --> 01:04:46,068 - It's the V66 first anniversary party! 1510 01:04:46,137 --> 01:04:47,862 [cheering] 1511 01:04:47,931 --> 01:04:49,344 - [Narrator] One year ago, 1512 01:04:49,413 --> 01:04:52,758 V66 ignited the Boston rock scene. 1513 01:04:52,827 --> 01:04:55,137 [explosion] 1514 01:04:55,206 --> 01:04:56,965 Tonight, we celebrate. 1515 01:04:57,034 --> 01:05:00,137 The V66 first anniversary party is underway. 1516 01:05:00,206 --> 01:05:03,827 Live from Metro, Grammy nominee Jon Butcher Axis, 1517 01:05:03,896 --> 01:05:06,620 Warner Bros. recording artist the Del Fuegos, 1518 01:05:06,689 --> 01:05:08,413 and Down Avenue take the stage 1519 01:05:08,482 --> 01:05:10,379 for knockout party performances. 1520 01:05:10,448 --> 01:05:13,000 V66 VJs Mary Jo and David O'Leary 1521 01:05:13,068 --> 01:05:14,965 bring you all the party excitement. 1522 01:05:15,034 --> 01:05:18,482 - We did a big concert at the Metro. 1523 01:05:18,551 --> 01:05:20,586 I think we had the Del Fuegos 1524 01:05:20,655 --> 01:05:23,068 and sort of an All-Star band as I recall. 1525 01:05:23,137 --> 01:05:26,379 Members of the Geils band and maybe members of the Cars 1526 01:05:26,448 --> 01:05:28,482 came in to play a song or two, 1527 01:05:28,551 --> 01:05:30,068 or sort of all kind of played together. 1528 01:05:30,137 --> 01:05:35,137 - Please welcome the V66 all-star birthday bash band! 1529 01:05:35,206 --> 01:05:37,758 Let's hear it, come on! 1530 01:05:37,827 --> 01:05:40,103 ♪ You say it's your birthday 1531 01:05:40,172 --> 01:05:43,000 - I mean, by the time it reached the one-year mark, 1532 01:05:43,068 --> 01:05:45,862 they really had a presence there. 1533 01:05:45,931 --> 01:05:48,724 - Hi, we're the Del Fuegos from Boston, Mass. 1534 01:05:48,793 --> 01:05:51,137 - [Everybody] Happy birthday, V66. 1535 01:05:51,206 --> 01:05:53,448 - My name's Benjamin Orr from the Cars. 1536 01:05:53,517 --> 01:05:55,241 Happy birthday, V66. 1537 01:05:55,310 --> 01:05:56,862 - I'm Brad Whitford. 1538 01:05:56,931 --> 01:05:58,275 - And I'm Joey Kramer. 1539 01:05:58,344 --> 01:06:03,172 And a happy birthday to V66 from Aerosmith. 1540 01:06:03,241 --> 01:06:05,517 - [Both] Happy birthday from Extreme. 1541 01:06:05,586 --> 01:06:08,068 - Hello, I'm Weird Al Jankovic. 1542 01:06:08,137 --> 01:06:10,275 And I'm Billy the birthday pig! 1543 01:06:10,344 --> 01:06:12,103 And we want to wish all our friends at V66 1544 01:06:12,172 --> 01:06:15,344 a happy stinking birthday! 1545 01:06:15,413 --> 01:06:17,448 - Again, I'd like to thank everyone. 1546 01:06:17,517 --> 01:06:19,103 It was an unbelievable night. 1547 01:06:19,172 --> 01:06:20,965 I think you all did a great job. 1548 01:06:21,034 --> 01:06:23,310 And let's do it again next year, okay? 1549 01:06:23,379 --> 01:06:27,103 - We had a bunch of posters made up, 1550 01:06:27,172 --> 01:06:28,896 pictures of all the VJs. 1551 01:06:28,965 --> 01:06:31,206 And we sent it out to all our advertisers, 1552 01:06:31,275 --> 01:06:33,551 to promote the station within, we're one year old. 1553 01:06:33,620 --> 01:06:35,689 We're not new anymore. 1554 01:06:35,758 --> 01:06:37,793 We're part of the landscape. 1555 01:06:37,862 --> 01:06:40,620 We're not going away yet. 1556 01:06:40,689 --> 01:06:43,620 - And things had really kind of locked in a little bit 1557 01:06:43,689 --> 01:06:47,068 in terms of what we were doing, the awareness of the V66, 1558 01:06:47,137 --> 01:06:50,551 and the awareness both on the part of bands 1559 01:06:50,620 --> 01:06:52,689 in the music community 1560 01:06:52,758 --> 01:06:55,172 but also on the part of viewers. 1561 01:06:55,241 --> 01:06:57,965 - Ratings were never great. 1562 01:06:58,034 --> 01:07:01,896 And part of it is I think that there was a lot 1563 01:07:01,965 --> 01:07:05,000 of short-term viewing to V66 1564 01:07:05,068 --> 01:07:07,896 where people would switch to it 1565 01:07:07,965 --> 01:07:10,620 and they'd switch back and forth later on. 1566 01:07:10,689 --> 01:07:12,896 Television ratings measure two different things-- 1567 01:07:12,965 --> 01:07:16,000 the number of households you reach 1568 01:07:16,068 --> 01:07:19,620 and the share of audience you have among those households. 1569 01:07:19,689 --> 01:07:21,275 In terms of the audience we reached, 1570 01:07:21,344 --> 01:07:23,241 our numbers went through the roof. 1571 01:07:23,310 --> 01:07:24,896 We were reaching two million people, 1572 01:07:24,965 --> 01:07:27,551 which is almost the whole TV market. 1573 01:07:27,620 --> 01:07:29,241 And considering we were a channel that appealed 1574 01:07:29,310 --> 01:07:31,137 mostly to a younger audience, 1575 01:07:31,206 --> 01:07:32,896 I mean people over 40 watching us 1576 01:07:32,965 --> 01:07:34,551 would have been a stretch. 1577 01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:36,517 'Cause we were more youth oriented. 1578 01:07:36,586 --> 01:07:38,931 We had the cumulative. 1579 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,620 In the first year we didn't have the share 1580 01:07:40,689 --> 01:07:42,206 because we didn't have the stickiness. 1581 01:07:42,275 --> 01:07:44,068 - We needed higher ratings. 1582 01:07:44,137 --> 01:07:46,586 - We had to develop more lifestyle programming 1583 01:07:46,655 --> 01:07:48,344 that had real content in it 1584 01:07:48,413 --> 01:07:50,310 that made us sticky. 1585 01:07:50,379 --> 01:07:52,344 Stuff that had a beginning, a middle, and an end. 1586 01:07:52,413 --> 01:07:54,172 - [Narrator] All day, all night, 1587 01:07:54,241 --> 01:07:56,620 V66 is much more than music. 1588 01:07:56,689 --> 01:08:00,379 News, sports, weather, lottery, lunchtime liveline. 1589 01:08:00,448 --> 01:08:02,689 - Everybody knew who V66 was. 1590 01:08:02,758 --> 01:08:04,586 Everybody watched V66. 1591 01:08:04,655 --> 01:08:08,310 But we could turn that gigantic audience 1592 01:08:08,379 --> 01:08:11,275 into advertising revenue because the national 1593 01:08:11,344 --> 01:08:15,000 and the regional advertisers wanted to see the book. 1594 01:08:15,068 --> 01:08:16,793 The Arbitron book, they wanted to see 1595 01:08:16,862 --> 01:08:18,379 how we were rating in the book. 1596 01:08:18,448 --> 01:08:20,241 And if they looked in the book they wouldn't see any numbers 1597 01:08:20,310 --> 01:08:22,862 that were to the level that they needed 1598 01:08:22,931 --> 01:08:25,137 in order to buy advertising on our station. 1599 01:08:25,206 --> 01:08:27,896 Because TV Guide wasn't listing us 1600 01:08:27,965 --> 01:08:31,034 the way that we wanted to be listed 1601 01:08:31,103 --> 01:08:32,620 because they came back to us and said, 1602 01:08:32,689 --> 01:08:34,655 "Hey, all you're doing is playing music videos. 1603 01:08:34,724 --> 01:08:37,310 "We need you to have programs if you want us to list you 1604 01:08:37,379 --> 01:08:39,172 as a programmed station." 1605 01:08:39,241 --> 01:08:41,655 - Hey Boston, check out the latest in music fashion 1606 01:08:41,724 --> 01:08:45,275 and dance on "American Bandstand" here on V66. 1607 01:08:45,344 --> 01:08:47,448 - I was instrumental in getting, 1608 01:08:47,517 --> 01:08:50,517 in finding out when "American Bandstand" 1609 01:08:50,586 --> 01:08:56,172 was not being carried in Boston, and calling ABC and saying, 1610 01:08:56,241 --> 01:08:58,758 "How can we carry 'American Bandstand'?" 1611 01:08:58,827 --> 01:09:02,275 - V66, the beat of Boston. 1612 01:09:02,344 --> 01:09:05,068 - [Narrator] Saturdays at 6:00 on V66, 1613 01:09:05,137 --> 01:09:07,068 the Beat of Boston. 1614 01:09:07,137 --> 01:09:10,241 - Sunday afternoon's nonstop laughs. 1615 01:09:10,310 --> 01:09:11,827 - One of the most things that we do. 1616 01:09:11,896 --> 01:09:13,448 - [laughing] 1617 01:09:13,517 --> 01:09:14,965 - [Narrator] With Bob and Zip. 1618 01:09:15,034 --> 01:09:18,827 - We had character bits, sketches 1619 01:09:18,896 --> 01:09:21,620 with voice impressionists, and character actors 1620 01:09:21,689 --> 01:09:23,448 that we also used on our radio show. 1621 01:09:23,517 --> 01:09:26,827 We booked guests to come in and sit down and talk with us. 1622 01:09:26,896 --> 01:09:28,965 - It was just fun to be able to go in there 1623 01:09:29,034 --> 01:09:30,896 on a Sunday afternoon and kind of do our bits. 1624 01:09:30,965 --> 01:09:32,965 - When the two came on the air there 1625 01:09:33,034 --> 01:09:34,310 it was just more less their morning show 1626 01:09:34,379 --> 01:09:35,586 and bringing it television. 1627 01:09:35,655 --> 01:09:37,482 - When you're watching the weekend break 1628 01:09:37,551 --> 01:09:39,620 with Bob and Zip, you're kind of like a member 1629 01:09:39,689 --> 01:09:41,034 of our family. 1630 01:09:41,103 --> 01:09:42,551 - Let me get a hanky for you. 1631 01:09:42,620 --> 01:09:44,586 - Here's what you get just looking in. 1632 01:09:44,655 --> 01:09:46,137 - [someone singing on telephone] 1633 01:09:46,206 --> 01:09:47,551 - And for a nominal fee... 1634 01:09:47,620 --> 01:09:49,034 - You're up to 300 now. 1635 01:09:49,103 --> 01:09:50,758 I mean it's funny because today I wouldn't do it 1636 01:09:50,827 --> 01:09:52,586 because I wouldn't think I could pull it off. 1637 01:09:52,655 --> 01:09:54,655 Back then no one told us what we could or couldn't do. 1638 01:09:54,724 --> 01:09:56,172 If we could think of it, we could do it. 1639 01:09:56,241 --> 01:09:59,000 - [Narrator] "The Superstar Show." 1640 01:09:59,068 --> 01:10:00,862 For the next hour, join Mary Jo... 1641 01:10:00,931 --> 01:10:04,344 - I would get into work at 7:00 or 8:00 in the morning 1642 01:10:04,413 --> 01:10:06,206 and start reading and researching. 1643 01:10:06,275 --> 01:10:07,655 This was before internet. 1644 01:10:07,724 --> 01:10:08,931 And we were on the air that night. 1645 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,310 The Virgin tour last year made big news. 1646 01:10:12,379 --> 01:10:15,793 Madonna went on the road and it was her first tour ever, 1647 01:10:15,862 --> 01:10:17,896 tremendous amount of work went together 1648 01:10:17,965 --> 01:10:20,827 in helping to put the show on for you. 1649 01:10:20,896 --> 01:10:23,655 Scalpers are known to get $60 for a ticket 1650 01:10:23,724 --> 01:10:24,827 to see this show. 1651 01:10:24,896 --> 01:10:26,482 - [Narrator] Weeknights at 9:00, 1652 01:10:26,551 --> 01:10:28,586 "The Superstar Show." 1653 01:10:28,655 --> 01:10:31,517 Weeknights at 10:00, "Boston Tonight" with John Garabedian. 1654 01:10:31,586 --> 01:10:33,103 - Welcome to "Boston Tonight." 1655 01:10:33,172 --> 01:10:34,482 This is Friday night in Boston. 1656 01:10:34,551 --> 01:10:35,931 We start a big long holiday weekend 1657 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,413 and have a fine show for you tonight. 1658 01:10:37,482 --> 01:10:41,793 ♪ 1659 01:10:41,862 --> 01:10:43,344 Sarah Chalmer will be with us tonight. 1660 01:10:43,413 --> 01:10:45,517 She makes the best apple pie in New England. 1661 01:10:45,586 --> 01:10:47,827 And we're going to put her to the acid test. 1662 01:10:47,896 --> 01:10:49,103 We're not gonna give her acid. 1663 01:10:49,172 --> 01:10:50,551 Just the acid test, it's terrific. 1664 01:10:50,620 --> 01:10:54,620 I think Dr. Ruth Westheimer ought to have her own benefit. 1665 01:10:54,689 --> 01:10:56,000 Call it Sex Aid. [laughing] 1666 01:10:56,068 --> 01:10:57,931 You can certainly continue to have the essence 1667 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,586 of the videos around what you do with shows based on them. 1668 01:11:01,655 --> 01:11:04,379 But you have to have stuff that appeals to the demo. 1669 01:11:04,448 --> 01:11:08,068 It would have been better if we didn't have pro wrestling. 1670 01:11:08,137 --> 01:11:11,413 - We had a chance to pick up one of the wrestling shows 1671 01:11:11,482 --> 01:11:15,724 and we thought we'd just throw it against the wall as they say. 1672 01:11:15,793 --> 01:11:18,103 - From the wrestling capitals of the world, 1673 01:11:18,172 --> 01:11:20,241 it's V66 professional wrestling. 1674 01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:22,620 - It'd be better if we had some local thing 1675 01:11:22,689 --> 01:11:24,655 we could have produced ourselves. 1676 01:11:24,724 --> 01:11:26,379 But we didn't have a budget for it. 1677 01:11:26,448 --> 01:11:28,517 'Cause television's very expensive to produce. 1678 01:11:28,586 --> 01:11:31,275 You wanna produce a show, you need 15 to 20 people 1679 01:11:31,344 --> 01:11:32,620 to produce a show. 1680 01:11:32,689 --> 01:11:34,000 To produce a really good show. 1681 01:11:34,068 --> 01:11:35,482 You can do it with four people 1682 01:11:35,551 --> 01:11:37,896 but it looks like crap and no one's gonna watch it. 1683 01:11:37,965 --> 01:11:42,379 So if you want ratings, which will then generate revenues, 1684 01:11:42,448 --> 01:11:43,379 you gotta have a crew and you gotta have 1685 01:11:43,448 --> 01:11:44,724 a budget to pay the crew. 1686 01:11:44,793 --> 01:11:46,724 - And it was the pyramid I had a real problem with. 1687 01:11:46,793 --> 01:11:48,758 - [Narrator] Weeknights at 6:00. 1688 01:11:48,827 --> 01:11:49,965 - 'Cause of course the viewer's like, 1689 01:11:50,034 --> 01:11:51,379 "What's this all about? 1690 01:11:51,448 --> 01:11:54,689 "I can watch '$100,000 Pyramid' on channel 38. 1691 01:11:54,758 --> 01:11:56,689 This isn't why I come here." 1692 01:11:56,758 --> 01:11:58,344 So what happens is you start to confuse viewers. 1693 01:11:58,413 --> 01:12:00,689 - [Narrator] "Boston SportsBeat" with Bill and Tank. 1694 01:12:00,758 --> 01:12:04,137 - The idea of using music and combining it with sports 1695 01:12:04,206 --> 01:12:05,517 had literally never been done. 1696 01:12:05,586 --> 01:12:08,310 Every once in a while you would see a music piece 1697 01:12:08,379 --> 01:12:12,862 in an Olympic profile on NBC or ABC and it was special. 1698 01:12:12,931 --> 01:12:14,689 - [Narrator] Friday, the Red Sox hit the street 1699 01:12:14,758 --> 01:12:16,551 for a nine- game road trip. 1700 01:12:16,620 --> 01:12:19,034 First stop, the rootin', tootin' Texas Rangers. 1701 01:12:19,103 --> 01:12:21,241 - The feeling that I got at the time 1702 01:12:21,310 --> 01:12:22,931 was that we can get any athlete. 1703 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,172 Anybody would come on the show with us 1704 01:12:25,241 --> 01:12:26,793 because they were all watching V66. 1705 01:12:26,862 --> 01:12:28,793 - I just don't like this week off stuff. 1706 01:12:28,862 --> 01:12:30,758 This could really been bad if we had 1707 01:12:30,827 --> 01:12:32,655 to sit around for ten days. 1708 01:12:32,724 --> 01:12:35,827 - I gotta say that Bruce Springsteen and "Glory Days" 1709 01:12:35,896 --> 01:12:38,034 reminds me of my baseball days. 1710 01:12:38,103 --> 01:12:42,206 - So by going to a "Boston SportsBeat," 1711 01:12:42,275 --> 01:12:46,034 we were able to say, "Hey, now we have a program." 1712 01:12:46,103 --> 01:12:48,862 "TV Guide" will now list the program. 1713 01:12:48,931 --> 01:12:50,241 People will now be aware 1714 01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:52,689 that there's a sports program on V66. 1715 01:12:52,758 --> 01:12:55,344 And maybe that will help us to get the advertising 1716 01:12:55,413 --> 01:12:58,172 because we start getting those quarter hours of viewership. 1717 01:12:58,241 --> 01:13:01,034 - You know the sales income stream is going up 1718 01:13:01,103 --> 01:13:02,827 at this slow rate. 1719 01:13:02,896 --> 01:13:07,241 And then your expenses, if you want to grease them 1720 01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:08,655 go up like this. 1721 01:13:08,724 --> 01:13:12,827 And then your cash on hand which is going down like this. 1722 01:13:12,896 --> 01:13:15,413 So the more you spend, the faster the cash goes away. 1723 01:13:15,482 --> 01:13:21,241 So you try to pick these curves that get your revenues up 1724 01:13:21,310 --> 01:13:23,827 so the cash would go down and go up like this. 1725 01:13:23,896 --> 01:13:27,862 - People don't watch channels, they want shows. 1726 01:13:27,931 --> 01:13:31,551 And that was a hard lesson for V66 to learn. 1727 01:13:31,620 --> 01:13:34,586 - One of the toughest things I ever did in my life 1728 01:13:34,655 --> 01:13:37,275 was calling a meeting of the entire staff 1729 01:13:37,344 --> 01:13:39,103 of "Boston Tonight," 1730 01:13:39,172 --> 01:13:42,310 and walking into the conference room 1731 01:13:42,379 --> 01:13:44,344 and telling them the show was canceled 1732 01:13:44,413 --> 01:13:46,724 and they'll all be laid off. 1733 01:13:46,793 --> 01:13:49,275 But we'd give them severance and take care of their, 1734 01:13:49,344 --> 01:13:53,448 you know, their departure. 1735 01:13:53,517 --> 01:13:55,551 That was hard. 1736 01:13:55,620 --> 01:13:58,379 How do you tell 29 people they're fired? 1737 01:13:58,448 --> 01:14:01,275 Put yourself in those shoes, it's not fun. 1738 01:14:01,344 --> 01:14:02,758 It's just not fun. 1739 01:14:02,827 --> 01:14:04,551 Especially people you really liked, 1740 01:14:04,620 --> 01:14:06,551 people who are really talented and you care about. 1741 01:14:06,620 --> 01:14:08,896 - Very emotional. 1742 01:14:08,965 --> 01:14:11,172 There were some tears being shed 1743 01:14:11,241 --> 01:14:16,620 and a very, a very downbeat vibe going through a place 1744 01:14:16,689 --> 01:14:18,517 that up until then had been so positive. 1745 01:14:18,586 --> 01:14:20,379 - The biggest group of people who got laid off 1746 01:14:20,448 --> 01:14:23,206 were the people who worked on the in-house programming 1747 01:14:23,275 --> 01:14:25,379 "Boston Tonight" and "SportsBeat." 1748 01:14:25,448 --> 01:14:27,448 All those people were let go at the same time 1749 01:14:27,517 --> 01:14:30,896 on one morning with no notice whatsoever. 1750 01:14:30,965 --> 01:14:32,310 It was devastating. 1751 01:14:32,379 --> 01:14:36,000 - The station went back toward music video programming 1752 01:14:36,068 --> 01:14:38,551 away from the appointment programming. 1753 01:14:38,620 --> 01:14:41,965 And in that process, the station staff became smaller. 1754 01:14:42,034 --> 01:14:45,172 So there was an awareness that the things hadn't worked out 1755 01:14:45,241 --> 01:14:49,551 with the effort to do appointment programming. 1756 01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:55,172 - We got Meryl's report that we have enough money 1757 01:14:55,241 --> 01:14:59,862 to get to Thanksgiving but not to Christmas. 1758 01:14:59,931 --> 01:15:01,344 Things took a turn. 1759 01:15:01,413 --> 01:15:07,827 It was sort of like going through a little bit of a death. 1760 01:15:07,896 --> 01:15:09,275 You're losing somebody. 1761 01:15:09,344 --> 01:15:13,103 It's like there's a part of you that really hurts. 1762 01:15:13,172 --> 01:15:16,413 And as far as the audience was concerned, 1763 01:15:16,482 --> 01:15:18,172 everything was great. 1764 01:15:18,241 --> 01:15:23,241 As far as the market, I mean we were, 1765 01:15:23,310 --> 01:15:25,793 we were popular. 1766 01:15:25,862 --> 01:15:28,413 But you gotta pay for it. 1767 01:15:28,482 --> 01:15:30,137 - They were really smart businessmen 1768 01:15:30,206 --> 01:15:32,172 and the fact that they didn't fall in love 1769 01:15:32,241 --> 01:15:34,482 with the property at the expense of the shareholders 1770 01:15:34,551 --> 01:15:36,379 and the investors, and so they said, 1771 01:15:36,448 --> 01:15:38,034 "This is probably something we should sell." 1772 01:15:38,103 --> 01:15:39,931 - You have to be pragmatic in life. 1773 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,172 You have to accept reality because there is only reality. 1774 01:15:43,241 --> 01:15:45,965 And if you accept reality and deal with reality 1775 01:15:46,034 --> 01:15:48,068 and make your decisions based on reality, 1776 01:15:48,137 --> 01:15:50,172 the best reality you can find, 1777 01:15:50,241 --> 01:15:52,103 you're gonna be making the best decisions 1778 01:15:52,172 --> 01:15:53,689 you can for yourself. 1779 01:15:53,758 --> 01:15:56,551 So I had to do what was best for... 1780 01:15:56,620 --> 01:15:58,310 best for everything. 1781 01:15:58,379 --> 01:16:04,206 - The "Boston Globe"-- Tuesday, July 1, 1986, 1782 01:16:04,275 --> 01:16:07,931 had a cartoon that shows two street salesmen. 1783 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,517 One is selling apples 1784 01:16:09,586 --> 01:16:12,551 and the other one independent stations. 1785 01:16:12,620 --> 01:16:16,103 - We all have tried our best to make it successful, 1786 01:16:16,172 --> 01:16:18,310 and none of us wanted to fail. 1787 01:16:18,379 --> 01:16:20,793 - Kidder-Peabody sold the station for them. 1788 01:16:20,862 --> 01:16:23,655 Conducted an auction, took bids, 1789 01:16:23,724 --> 01:16:26,172 and then negotiated the final transaction. 1790 01:16:26,241 --> 01:16:29,206 - We had a visit from the chairman 1791 01:16:29,275 --> 01:16:32,482 and president of Home Shopping Network, Roy Speer, 1792 01:16:32,551 --> 01:16:34,862 and Bud Paxson. 1793 01:16:34,931 --> 01:16:36,344 And they were flying in from Tampa. 1794 01:16:36,413 --> 01:16:38,689 - He wanted to have terrestrial distribution 1795 01:16:38,758 --> 01:16:43,000 for the Home Shopping Network, which is already a big success. 1796 01:16:43,068 --> 01:16:45,103 And Bud and his partner flew up to Boston 1797 01:16:45,172 --> 01:16:48,103 and sat down with us and negotiated for several hours. 1798 01:16:48,172 --> 01:16:50,241 - And we sold the company for $20 million. 1799 01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:51,931 And everybody smiled. 1800 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,275 - We made a lot of money for the investors. 1801 01:16:54,344 --> 01:16:57,000 Like I said, they pulled the plug at the right time. 1802 01:16:57,068 --> 01:16:59,344 They were great people to work with and deal with. 1803 01:16:59,413 --> 01:17:01,655 - I think they made every effort they could do 1804 01:17:01,724 --> 01:17:04,862 to keep the station alive as long as they could. 1805 01:17:04,931 --> 01:17:08,068 And when it became clear that V66 as such 1806 01:17:08,137 --> 01:17:09,931 wasn't going to be able to sustain itself, 1807 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,724 they did what they had to do. 1808 01:17:11,793 --> 01:17:15,655 - We also made a deal with them to run their programming 1809 01:17:15,724 --> 01:17:19,413 over a substantial part of the broadcast day 1810 01:17:19,482 --> 01:17:22,344 in exchange for being paid a large amount of cash. 1811 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,551 ♪ Who counts the money 1812 01:17:32,620 --> 01:17:35,689 ♪ Underneath the bar 1813 01:17:35,758 --> 01:17:39,000 ♪ Who rides the wrecking ball 1814 01:17:39,068 --> 01:17:42,517 ♪ Into our guitars 1815 01:17:42,586 --> 01:17:44,931 ♪ Tell us you need us... 1816 01:17:52,965 --> 01:17:54,310 - Where is the music? 1817 01:17:54,379 --> 01:17:55,724 Where is the videos? 1818 01:17:55,793 --> 01:17:58,172 Where is... I don't wanna buy a stupid watch. 1819 01:17:58,241 --> 01:18:00,793 - And as a kid, that didn't make any sense to me, 1820 01:18:00,862 --> 01:18:03,448 the idea of maybe they couldn't get enough 1821 01:18:03,517 --> 01:18:05,965 advertising or whatever. 1822 01:18:06,034 --> 01:18:07,724 That didn't mean anything to me. 1823 01:18:07,793 --> 01:18:09,689 It's just, like, why... that means people prefer 1824 01:18:09,758 --> 01:18:13,965 to watch shopping, you know? 1825 01:18:14,034 --> 01:18:18,379 - To go from rock video to fake diamond rocks. 1826 01:18:18,448 --> 01:18:20,793 And that's what they were pushing. 1827 01:18:20,862 --> 01:18:22,793 It just... it was, eh. 1828 01:18:22,862 --> 01:18:24,206 - I felt that that was an incredibly 1829 01:18:24,275 --> 01:18:26,793 appropriate reflection of the times. 1830 01:18:26,862 --> 01:18:33,724 The whole merchandising, selling dynamic 1831 01:18:33,793 --> 01:18:37,379 being more important than creativity, art, value, 1832 01:18:37,448 --> 01:18:40,344 expression, discovery. 1833 01:18:40,413 --> 01:18:43,517 - I was fascinated as a businessperson 1834 01:18:43,586 --> 01:18:46,482 because I realized that John Garabedian was so lucky 1835 01:18:46,551 --> 01:18:49,275 to have had the right rights at the right time 1836 01:18:49,344 --> 01:18:51,413 to cash out big time. 1837 01:18:51,482 --> 01:18:53,310 It was kind of... for me it was more of 1838 01:18:53,379 --> 01:18:56,275 a local boy made good story rather than any sadness 1839 01:18:56,344 --> 01:18:59,517 about the actual airwave. 1840 01:18:59,586 --> 01:19:01,827 - Obviously there will come a time when you sell it. 1841 01:19:01,896 --> 01:19:05,448 Everything is to be born, live, and die. 1842 01:19:05,517 --> 01:19:10,137 It's just the way the cycle works in the universe. 1843 01:19:10,206 --> 01:19:15,137 Whether it's a star or a person or a fad. 1844 01:19:15,206 --> 01:19:18,310 I think it really has to do with an underlying motivation 1845 01:19:18,379 --> 01:19:23,896 in life or being turned on by something 1846 01:19:23,965 --> 01:19:26,827 and following your dreams. 1847 01:19:26,896 --> 01:19:31,689 I've never in my life tried to make money at anything. 1848 01:19:31,758 --> 01:19:34,827 I've always tried to follow what I love to do 1849 01:19:34,896 --> 01:19:37,000 and what I believe in. 1850 01:19:37,068 --> 01:19:39,413 And that gets me up every morning. 1851 01:19:39,482 --> 01:19:45,137 - I remember seeing John shortly afterward at an event, 1852 01:19:45,206 --> 01:19:46,862 a charity event or something 1853 01:19:46,931 --> 01:19:49,413 and talking to him a little bit about it. 1854 01:19:49,482 --> 01:19:53,137 And, you know, just asking him if he missed it 1855 01:19:53,206 --> 01:19:54,896 and I remember him tell me, yeah, he did 1856 01:19:54,965 --> 01:19:59,310 but you know at the same time he was in business 1857 01:19:59,379 --> 01:20:01,413 and he's in business to make money. 1858 01:20:01,482 --> 01:20:04,482 And so it was the... it was the best alternative. 1859 01:20:04,551 --> 01:20:07,448 - We all knew we were part of something historic 1860 01:20:07,517 --> 01:20:10,172 in Boston music history. 1861 01:20:10,241 --> 01:20:13,482 And I think we're all very grateful for that. 1862 01:20:13,551 --> 01:20:15,689 It would have been nice if it lasted longer. 1863 01:20:15,758 --> 01:20:19,068 - Its importance in remembering a time when 1864 01:20:19,137 --> 01:20:23,034 we were excited about music. 1865 01:20:23,103 --> 01:20:25,517 And music was starting to come to life with pictures. 1866 01:20:25,586 --> 01:20:29,689 - I remember in one of the local music newspapers, 1867 01:20:29,758 --> 01:20:33,827 all the local bands were all sad as we were. 1868 01:20:33,896 --> 01:20:37,137 - So V66 was a valuable outlet for us 1869 01:20:37,206 --> 01:20:39,275 and it was a sad day when it was bought 1870 01:20:39,344 --> 01:20:41,724 by the Home Shopping Network. 1871 01:20:41,793 --> 01:20:43,931 - I think that was really disappointing for all of us. 1872 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,689 - We got a lot of good perks out of V66. 1873 01:20:47,758 --> 01:20:51,517 - It was a shame because, you know, it was a boost 1874 01:20:51,586 --> 01:20:54,793 to the local... you know, to the bands who could get 1875 01:20:54,862 --> 01:20:56,275 their videos played. 1876 01:20:56,344 --> 01:21:00,379 - They were playing people that could barely, you know, 1877 01:21:00,448 --> 01:21:03,241 just scrape up enough money to put a video together. 1878 01:21:03,310 --> 01:21:05,379 'Cause that's really how you can get noticed at that point. 1879 01:21:05,448 --> 01:21:08,241 Like the whole thing with putting a bunch of demos 1880 01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:09,827 and then trying to shop them around, 1881 01:21:09,896 --> 01:21:11,827 if you didn't have a video, I mean you really weren't 1882 01:21:11,896 --> 01:21:13,034 gonna go anywhere. 1883 01:21:13,103 --> 01:21:15,827 - When you realize that you've now elevated 1884 01:21:15,896 --> 01:21:18,379 and have gone to another level with your life and career, 1885 01:21:18,448 --> 01:21:19,620 you take the good. 1886 01:21:19,689 --> 01:21:21,000 You remember the good, you remember that 1887 01:21:21,068 --> 01:21:22,724 they were an intricate part of helping 1888 01:21:22,793 --> 01:21:25,655 getting the careers off and going. 1889 01:21:25,724 --> 01:21:27,620 And I think those are the memories you take 1890 01:21:27,689 --> 01:21:29,862 and keep with you, but we know like anything else 1891 01:21:29,931 --> 01:21:31,275 times change, music change. 1892 01:21:31,344 --> 01:21:34,793 - I think anything that supports local art in any way 1893 01:21:34,862 --> 01:21:40,137 is such a valuable part of a community. 1894 01:21:40,206 --> 01:21:43,689 - It's kind of at the same moment then that was ending 1895 01:21:43,758 --> 01:21:46,275 that we were starting Lemonheads. 1896 01:21:46,344 --> 01:21:48,103 But we were gonna have to do it without the benefit 1897 01:21:48,172 --> 01:21:50,689 of music videos locally. 1898 01:21:50,758 --> 01:21:53,896 - It happened a year and a half, holy... 1899 01:21:53,965 --> 01:21:56,034 Wow, that has gotta be one of the most 1900 01:21:56,103 --> 01:21:58,758 short-lived influential things in the Boston music scene. 1901 01:21:58,827 --> 01:22:00,862 - It's kind of like the Sex Pistols. 1902 01:22:00,931 --> 01:22:02,689 One album, tons of influence. 1903 01:22:08,551 --> 01:22:12,586 ♪ When I tell him that I'm falling in love 1904 01:22:12,655 --> 01:22:18,275 ♪ Why does he say-a-ay 1905 01:22:18,344 --> 01:22:22,586 ♪ Hush hush, keep it down now, voices carry 1906 01:22:22,655 --> 01:22:25,758 - YouTube is the new V66, I think, right? 1907 01:22:25,827 --> 01:22:30,275 'Cause it's like you feel like you discover the things. 1908 01:22:30,344 --> 01:22:31,793 They have that sort homemade feeling. 1909 01:22:31,862 --> 01:22:35,517 [rock music] 1910 01:22:48,068 --> 01:22:50,482 [somber music] 1911 01:23:10,655 --> 01:23:13,172 - I sold V66. 1912 01:23:13,241 --> 01:23:16,758 I ended up with a pretty good payday. 1913 01:23:16,827 --> 01:23:18,896 And then I had no idea because here I am, 1914 01:23:18,965 --> 01:23:21,068 I was like 46 years old, and I thought, 1915 01:23:21,137 --> 01:23:22,551 "What am I gonna do next?" 1916 01:23:26,034 --> 01:23:28,034 I could have probably gotten along without working 1917 01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:30,586 but that's not me, that's not what... 1918 01:23:30,655 --> 01:23:32,034 I love what I do. 1919 01:23:32,103 --> 01:23:33,655 I really love what I do. 1920 01:23:33,724 --> 01:23:35,379 And out of all things there are to do in the world, 1921 01:23:35,448 --> 01:23:36,586 I can do anything. 1922 01:23:36,655 --> 01:23:40,172 I can drive a cab. 1923 01:23:40,241 --> 01:23:41,379 I can become an airline pilot. 1924 01:23:41,448 --> 01:23:43,000 I can do anything. 1925 01:23:43,068 --> 01:23:46,827 I thought, there's nothing I enjoy more than radio. 1926 01:23:46,896 --> 01:23:48,862 I love radio. 1927 01:23:48,931 --> 01:23:50,758 But the kind of radio that I love, 1928 01:23:50,827 --> 01:23:56,482 which goes back to Open House Party back in the '60s, WORC, 1929 01:23:56,551 --> 01:23:59,103 doesn't exist. 1930 01:23:59,172 --> 01:24:01,344 I said I've done this show, it's called Open House Party. 1931 01:24:01,413 --> 01:24:03,034 It's a big national party. 1932 01:24:03,103 --> 01:24:04,586 You get 800 lines so people are calling 1933 01:24:04,655 --> 01:24:06,068 from all over the country. 1934 01:24:06,137 --> 01:24:07,482 You have the biggest stars in the business 1935 01:24:07,551 --> 01:24:08,896 come on every week as your guests 1936 01:24:08,965 --> 01:24:11,896 and you have something to talk up and get some charisma. 1937 01:24:11,965 --> 01:24:16,551 You have live performances in the studio of guests. 1938 01:24:16,620 --> 01:24:19,862 You have big contests, with prizes that money can't buy. 1939 01:24:19,931 --> 01:24:23,034 You have mixing by the best DJ mixers. 1940 01:24:23,103 --> 01:24:26,034 I said, everything, everything is the best. 1941 01:24:26,103 --> 01:24:28,448 And he put it out on satellite and it goes out 1942 01:24:28,517 --> 01:24:29,689 every Saturday night. 1943 01:24:29,758 --> 01:24:32,379 - [Announcer] John Garabedian. 1944 01:24:32,448 --> 01:24:35,620 The all cool, all request Open House Party 1945 01:24:35,689 --> 01:24:38,206 is on the air. 1946 01:24:38,275 --> 01:24:40,275 - [John] Ah, cowabunga! 1947 01:24:40,344 --> 01:24:43,344 Welcome in to the biggest party on the planet. 1948 01:24:43,413 --> 01:24:44,965 We are your soundtrack for Saturday night. 1949 01:24:47,482 --> 01:25:02,172 ♪ 1950 01:25:02,241 --> 01:25:08,241 - I still had an interest in pyramid broadcasting. 1951 01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:11,344 And they said they'd be happy to have me back there. 1952 01:25:11,413 --> 01:25:14,103 People never forgot V66. 1953 01:25:14,172 --> 01:25:18,034 They never forgot me as a disc jockey. 1954 01:25:18,103 --> 01:25:19,689 And it was part of their growing up. 1955 01:25:19,758 --> 01:25:22,482 - After leaving the station 1956 01:25:22,551 --> 01:25:24,551 I went into the mortgage business and actually started 1957 01:25:24,620 --> 01:25:27,344 my own mortgage company. 1958 01:25:27,413 --> 01:25:29,206 And I did not do subprime mortgages. 1959 01:25:29,275 --> 01:25:31,103 I only did fixed rate mortgages for people 1960 01:25:31,172 --> 01:25:33,206 who could afford them. 1961 01:25:33,275 --> 01:25:35,965 - Through my association with the channel 1962 01:25:36,034 --> 01:25:38,620 and knowing music video directors, 1963 01:25:38,689 --> 01:25:41,310 I ended up repping video directors for a company 1964 01:25:41,379 --> 01:25:42,620 called Mark Friedman Productions. 1965 01:25:42,689 --> 01:25:45,000 - You know, it's 20-something years later. 1966 01:25:45,068 --> 01:25:47,413 A month doesn't go by when somebody doesn't 1967 01:25:47,482 --> 01:25:51,137 recognize me from V66. 1968 01:25:51,206 --> 01:25:53,931 And what's funny about it is they'll go, 1969 01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,965 "You're that guy from the V66." 1970 01:25:57,034 --> 01:25:59,000 "Yeah, yeah." 1971 01:25:59,068 --> 01:26:01,413 Now, understand, V66 was here in Boston. 1972 01:26:01,482 --> 01:26:03,068 I've lived in this area my whole life. 1973 01:26:03,137 --> 01:26:04,586 I've worked on the radio professionally 1974 01:26:04,655 --> 01:26:07,206 at Kiss 108, at WBOS, at Magic 106.7, 1975 01:26:07,275 --> 01:26:08,724 some big stations, 1976 01:26:08,793 --> 01:26:11,586 pretty much nonstop since V66. 1977 01:26:11,655 --> 01:26:13,344 So they'll say, "You're that guy from V66. 1978 01:26:13,413 --> 01:26:15,482 What have you been doing since V66?" 1979 01:26:15,551 --> 01:26:17,103 The radio doesn't matter. 1980 01:26:17,172 --> 01:26:19,206 Nobody knows me from the radio but they... 1981 01:26:19,275 --> 01:26:22,655 in this case they know V66 from 20-something years ago. 1982 01:26:22,724 --> 01:26:24,241 - So I was just sitting there and I was reading 1983 01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:25,448 and a guy was skating by. 1984 01:26:25,517 --> 01:26:26,689 For whatever reason I was looking up 1985 01:26:26,758 --> 01:26:29,241 but he looked to me and he did a double take. 1986 01:26:29,310 --> 01:26:30,827 And then he slowed down. 1987 01:26:30,896 --> 01:26:33,793 And I understood that he recognized me from somewhere. 1988 01:26:33,862 --> 01:26:37,551 But my guess was either VH1 1989 01:26:37,620 --> 01:26:40,103 or VH1 Classic for that matter or "Big Brother" 1990 01:26:40,172 --> 01:26:43,931 'cause I was on the debut season of that at CBS. 1991 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,034 And he skated over and he goes, "Ian O'Malley right?" 1992 01:26:47,103 --> 01:26:49,172 I said, "That's correct, how are you?" 1993 01:26:49,241 --> 01:26:51,931 He goes, "I'm fine." He goes, "V66." 1994 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,068 And I was like, "How did you possibly recognize me?" 1995 01:26:55,137 --> 01:26:57,517 He was like. "I just knew, man. V66 though, right?" 1996 01:26:57,586 --> 01:26:59,689 Which just really blew my mind. 1997 01:26:59,758 --> 01:27:01,034 And lots of times when I talk to people 1998 01:27:01,103 --> 01:27:02,206 that were living in Boston 1999 01:27:02,275 --> 01:27:03,379 or going to school in that day and age, 2000 01:27:03,448 --> 01:27:04,965 primarily radio listeners, 2001 01:27:05,034 --> 01:27:06,655 now when I do a charity event or something, 2002 01:27:06,724 --> 01:27:07,896 "Like hey, I'm from Boston." 2003 01:27:07,965 --> 01:27:09,137 "Oh, did you live there in '85, '86?" 2004 01:27:09,206 --> 01:27:10,620 "Sure did. 2005 01:27:10,689 --> 01:27:12,275 "Rockin' in Revere, watched you all the time on V66." 2006 01:27:12,344 --> 01:27:15,551 - V66 was one of the best experiences of my life 2007 01:27:15,620 --> 01:27:18,827 because it was so different it was... 2008 01:27:18,896 --> 01:27:20,724 it was not radio, it was visual. 2009 01:27:20,793 --> 01:27:22,896 It was radio and TV. 2010 01:27:22,965 --> 01:27:25,448 - V66 was my college education. 2011 01:27:25,517 --> 01:27:28,000 That's where I learned how to do what I ended up doing 2012 01:27:28,068 --> 01:27:29,241 for my career. 2013 01:27:29,310 --> 01:27:30,931 - Actually you started working on camera 2014 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,413 being a pit reporter. 2015 01:27:32,482 --> 01:27:36,655 I worked for CBS for six years covering NASCAR and the NHRA. 2016 01:27:36,724 --> 01:27:39,827 I've worked on every major automotive racing series 2017 01:27:39,896 --> 01:27:41,379 in the country on television. 2018 01:27:41,448 --> 01:27:43,068 Open Wheel, NASCAR, NHRA. 2019 01:27:43,137 --> 01:27:45,172 I've done sprint cars. 2020 01:27:45,241 --> 01:27:47,827 And it doesn't get any better than that for me. 2021 01:27:47,896 --> 01:27:51,379 - 25 years later as a professor, 2022 01:27:51,448 --> 01:27:54,517 you're sort of looking back wishing that 2023 01:27:54,586 --> 01:27:59,517 media trends hade gone along differently 2024 01:27:59,586 --> 01:28:02,827 and that the industry was as good now as it was then. 2025 01:28:02,896 --> 01:28:05,965 - I'm thrilled that I got to have that experience. 2026 01:28:06,034 --> 01:28:09,965 I think it makes me more sympathetic 2027 01:28:10,034 --> 01:28:12,000 to the people who I interview now. 2028 01:28:12,068 --> 01:28:16,344 - It really was, in its own little way, very iconic 2029 01:28:16,413 --> 01:28:20,310 and a real precursor to a lot of the media 2030 01:28:20,379 --> 01:28:21,620 that's out there today. 2031 01:28:21,689 --> 01:28:25,551 - Zip and I put out Twisted Christmas in 1987. 2032 01:28:25,620 --> 01:28:28,068 And there are a couple of videos associated with that, 2033 01:28:28,137 --> 01:28:30,517 but I think it missed the V66 era. 2034 01:28:30,586 --> 01:28:32,448 We have a gold record, so we know it sold 2035 01:28:32,517 --> 01:28:35,724 at least a half a million copies from the RIAA. 2036 01:28:35,793 --> 01:28:38,344 And we put out a number of Christmas albums since 2037 01:28:38,413 --> 01:28:42,172 and a few videos that MTV reluctantly played 2038 01:28:42,241 --> 01:28:45,344 at 3:00 a.m. twice. 2039 01:28:45,413 --> 01:28:48,448 So, another reason to miss V66. 2040 01:28:48,517 --> 01:28:51,827 - I think I learned all of that from V66. 2041 01:28:51,896 --> 01:28:54,413 I learned about being involved in the community, 2042 01:28:54,482 --> 01:28:58,344 about, you know, working hard 2043 01:28:58,413 --> 01:29:02,551 to get the the interview that nobody else is going to get. 2044 01:29:02,620 --> 01:29:03,931 And about, you know... 2045 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:09,827 and John taught me a lot about trying to be... 2046 01:29:09,896 --> 01:29:13,000 say something compelling using the least amount of words. 2047 01:29:13,068 --> 01:29:15,344 Nearly everything I know about broadcasting I learned there. 2048 01:29:15,413 --> 01:29:16,793 - I'm Sunny Joe White. 2049 01:29:16,862 --> 01:29:18,689 We're live at the Palace tonight, everybody, 2050 01:29:18,758 --> 01:29:20,241 Route 99 in Saugus. 2051 01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:22,344 Your invitation is an open invitation 2052 01:29:22,413 --> 01:29:23,827 for you to come down until 2:00 a.m. 2053 01:29:23,896 --> 01:29:27,241 - I got the biggest chill inside was watching 2054 01:29:27,310 --> 01:29:29,689 when we did our New Year's Eve program. 2055 01:29:29,758 --> 01:29:32,724 I think seeing our top 66 countdown 2056 01:29:32,793 --> 01:29:34,724 and seeing our New Year's Eve show, 2057 01:29:34,793 --> 01:29:36,862 it just made me feel like we've done so much. 2058 01:29:36,931 --> 01:29:39,724 - And if there is a particular video you'd like to see, 2059 01:29:39,793 --> 01:29:43,310 please do call me up on the V line, 2060 01:29:43,379 --> 01:29:46,241 931-1066 and I'll be very happy 2061 01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:47,827 to try and get it on for you. 2062 01:29:47,896 --> 01:29:51,551 - But in the history of music in Boston 2063 01:29:51,620 --> 01:29:54,862 and in the history of radio and television in Boston-- 2064 01:29:54,931 --> 01:29:58,551 forget that, in the entire country-- 2065 01:29:58,620 --> 01:30:00,793 there had never been anything like V66. 2066 01:30:00,862 --> 01:30:04,000 - V66 was a success because 2067 01:30:04,068 --> 01:30:08,896 in the short term that it was on, it hit people. 2068 01:30:08,965 --> 01:30:10,793 That's why we're talking today. 2069 01:30:10,862 --> 01:30:14,068 20 years plus down the road, people still remember it. 2070 01:30:14,137 --> 01:30:18,551 It worked for that short time and then it went away, 2071 01:30:18,620 --> 01:30:20,344 and it hasn't worked since. 2072 01:30:20,413 --> 01:30:24,620 There's not another local music video television station 2073 01:30:24,689 --> 01:30:25,689 in the country. 2074 01:30:25,758 --> 01:30:27,724 - The word I think of is "us." 2075 01:30:27,793 --> 01:30:29,172 And it wasn't necessarily us that worked there, 2076 01:30:29,241 --> 01:30:30,517 it was us the viewers. 2077 01:30:30,586 --> 01:30:32,000 It was our channel. 2078 01:30:32,068 --> 01:30:33,206 It was Boston. 2079 01:30:33,275 --> 01:30:34,827 It was Boston weather. 2080 01:30:34,896 --> 01:30:38,758 It was Boston music, it was Boston food. 2081 01:30:38,827 --> 01:30:40,586 It was New England. 2082 01:30:40,655 --> 01:30:43,448 And New England have always had a very, 2083 01:30:43,517 --> 01:30:45,620 it's always been a very family-based society 2084 01:30:45,689 --> 01:30:46,931 I found growing up in it. 2085 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,310 It's that old Yankee thing. 2086 01:30:48,379 --> 01:30:50,379 And it's also that, "Don't fuck with us." 2087 01:30:50,448 --> 01:30:54,620 And we had 24-hour channel that said, "Don't fuck with us. 2088 01:30:54,689 --> 01:30:57,275 "We can do whatever we want. 2089 01:30:57,344 --> 01:31:00,379 We're New Englanders and this is us." 2090 01:31:00,448 --> 01:31:02,931 - What's the bottom line and what it accomplished? 2091 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,827 I don't know. 2092 01:31:04,896 --> 01:31:10,068 I guess it put a bunch of people together in this Petri dish 2093 01:31:10,137 --> 01:31:12,068 and they all developed into what they were, 2094 01:31:12,137 --> 01:31:14,896 and changed their view and out they went. 2095 01:31:14,965 --> 01:31:18,482 And that's kind of what V66 did. 2096 01:31:18,551 --> 01:31:22,275 For the community, it gave people a view of television 2097 01:31:22,344 --> 01:31:25,896 that they hadn't had before and a view of the pop culture, 2098 01:31:25,965 --> 01:31:27,689 which I think reigns supreme over anything. 2099 01:31:27,758 --> 01:31:29,689 I mean, I love pop culture. 2100 01:31:29,758 --> 01:31:30,965 Pop culture's really it. 2101 01:31:31,034 --> 01:31:32,379 Pop culture's everything. 2102 01:31:32,448 --> 01:31:34,241 It's from Obama to Sarah Palin. 2103 01:31:34,310 --> 01:31:36,310 That's pop culture! 2104 01:31:36,379 --> 01:31:42,034 It is our lives, it is what we as human beings show 2105 01:31:42,103 --> 01:31:46,000 each other and view each other in. 2106 01:31:46,068 --> 01:31:50,241 [rock music] 2107 01:32:03,758 --> 01:32:07,034 ♪ Cellar floor on bare feet 2108 01:32:11,827 --> 01:32:14,931 ♪ We come down here to beat the heat 2109 01:32:19,344 --> 01:32:22,793 ♪ Orange sofa, yellow chair 2110 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,344 ♪ The antenna in the air 2111 01:32:34,862 --> 01:32:38,655 ♪ Saw an ad for "Plate World" 2112 01:32:42,586 --> 01:32:45,931 ♪ Or we'd watch "M.A.S.H." three times a day 2113 01:32:50,344 --> 01:32:54,241 ♪ Sign says no, no feet on table 2114 01:32:58,068 --> 01:33:02,965 ♪ Sign says no, we can't get cable 2115 01:33:03,034 --> 01:33:06,206 - V66, baby! 2116 01:33:06,275 --> 01:33:11,586 - ♪ Blows our mind 2117 01:33:11,655 --> 01:33:17,000 ♪ Everything is changing on TV 2118 01:33:17,068 --> 01:33:20,034 - When I first started watching V66, 2119 01:33:20,103 --> 01:33:22,413 I said, "Boy this looks like a successful operation 2120 01:33:22,482 --> 01:33:27,344 "and this John Garabedian guy seems like a cool guy. 2121 01:33:27,413 --> 01:33:30,068 "I'm gonna call him up and see if he, 2122 01:33:30,137 --> 01:33:32,896 if he or any of his VJs need vehicles." 2123 01:33:32,965 --> 01:33:35,482 So I tracked down the number, called up, 2124 01:33:35,551 --> 01:33:39,137 asked for John Garabedian, got right to him on the phone, 2125 01:33:39,206 --> 01:33:42,000 and I said, "John Garabedian, my name is Ernie Boch Jr. 2126 01:33:42,068 --> 01:33:46,620 and I love your shows and do any of your VJs need cars?" 2127 01:33:46,689 --> 01:33:49,551 And on the other line I heard, "No, kid," click. 2128 01:33:49,620 --> 01:33:50,965 And he hung up on me. 2129 01:33:51,034 --> 01:33:55,206 And that was my first exposure to John Garabedian. 2130 01:33:55,275 --> 01:33:58,344 And a few months later I saw him at a party 2131 01:33:58,413 --> 01:34:01,655 because I realized that we had a lot of mutual friends. 2132 01:34:01,724 --> 01:34:03,344 And I called him out on it. 2133 01:34:03,413 --> 01:34:05,551 Walked right up to him, I said, "What are you doing? 2134 01:34:05,620 --> 01:34:07,000 You hang up on me?" 2135 01:34:07,068 --> 01:34:08,862 He said, "Oh, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry." 2136 01:34:08,931 --> 01:34:11,413 And we became really good friends. 2137 01:34:11,482 --> 01:34:14,068 And he was an usher at my wedding. 2138 01:34:14,137 --> 01:34:19,034 - ♪ You and me 2139 01:34:19,103 --> 01:34:23,241 ♪ Everything is changing on TV 2140 01:34:23,310 --> 01:34:26,344 ♪ Whoa 2141 01:34:26,413 --> 01:34:28,965 ♪ A snare drum full of milk 2142 01:34:29,034 --> 01:34:30,620 ♪ It works for me 2143 01:34:30,689 --> 01:34:34,034 ♪ Whoa 2144 01:34:34,103 --> 01:34:37,793 ♪ And in the air there is a sound 2145 01:34:37,862 --> 01:34:42,137 ♪ From outer space or all around 2146 01:34:42,206 --> 01:34:45,586 ♪ The 66, UHF 2147 01:34:45,655 --> 01:34:49,551 ♪ There are videos, music videos 2148 01:34:49,620 --> 01:34:53,310 ♪ No radio, no stereo 2149 01:34:53,379 --> 01:34:58,206 ♪ We sold our souls to V66 2150 01:34:58,275 --> 01:35:05,137 ♪ In our basement, out on Bass Rocks 2151 01:35:05,206 --> 01:35:07,172 - If you believe that your rock band's 2152 01:35:07,241 --> 01:35:09,482 gonna be the biggest band in the world, it's gonna. 2153 01:35:09,551 --> 01:35:11,896 If you believe that you're the best director-producer 2154 01:35:11,965 --> 01:35:13,620 in the freaking world, you're gonna make it. 2155 01:35:13,689 --> 01:35:15,344 If you believe that you're gonna start 2156 01:35:15,413 --> 01:35:17,310 a television station and play music all day, 2157 01:35:17,379 --> 01:35:19,379 it'll probably happen for you too. 2158 01:35:19,448 --> 01:35:21,275 - ♪ V66 2159 01:35:21,344 --> 01:35:23,862 ♪ In amazement... 159523

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