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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,560 This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting, 3 00:00:05,560 --> 00:00:09,840 deals with Sexual Abuse, and contains some strong language 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,960 Yeah, I went back to Harrods about a year ago. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Probably the first time since I left. 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,960 And I knew if I could walk through and come out the other side, 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,640 I'd be in a good place to be talking to you. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,360 When I walked through the doors to start my job there, I was excited. 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,880 At no point in time did I ever anticipate 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,600 being on the receiving end of an attempted rape. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,880 I joined Harrods because I wanted to be a buyer, 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,560 and I ended up working for an absolute monster. 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,400 I think he damaged me in some way. 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,480 He's just left a scar. 16 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:56,040 NEWS REPORT: The billionaire businessman Mohamed Al Fayed, 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,360 who went from selling soft drinks in Egypt to owning Harrods 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,680 and the Paris Ritz, has died at the age of 94. 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,600 The Egyptian businessman Mohamed Al Fayed was best known 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,120 for his links to the British royal family. 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,880 His son Dodi was killed alongside Princess Diana in Paris in 1997. 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,960 He was the self-made billionaire 23 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:19,480 determined to get into British society, 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,720 and became known to a new generation 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,960 through the most recent series of The Crown. 26 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:26,600 {\an8}Diana. 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,880 {\an8}Mohamed. 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,360 {\an8}But you must call me Mou Mou. 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,760 To be honest, it's made me really hot and bothered. 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,480 I think he comes across pleasant. 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,120 We all know he's not. 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,040 It just makes him look sort of funny and gregarious, and... 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,560 ..and he could turn that on but it's all... He wasn't. 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,000 He was...vile. 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,560 And that makes me angry. 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,360 People shouldn't remember him like that. 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,800 It's not how he was. 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,080 I've been waiting for 25 years 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,480 for someone to believe me, 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,920 to talk about the awful things that he did. 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,720 I have spoken up about my time there on numerous occasions. 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Most of the time it has been shut down. 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 He tried to rape me more than once. 44 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,680 And he pushed me in and onto the bed, 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,680 so that I couldn't move, and held both my wrists. 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,600 I was kind of face down on the bed and he pressed himself on me. 47 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Get him off! Get him off! Get him off! 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,160 I was a child when this happened. 49 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,840 You know, he was 79, nearly 80, 50 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,800 and I was 15. 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,520 I think Mohamed Al Fayed is a rapist. 52 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,240 I think he's a serial rapist. 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,320 I made it obvious that I didn't want that to happen. 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,000 Just going somewhere else in my head. 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,360 Mohamed Al Fayed should be on trial, but he's not. 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,960 He's in the ground being eulogised 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,400 by the most popular television programme out there. 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,480 I knew - 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,280 and I think if I know, everybody knew. 60 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,920 Anyone who says they didn't, they're lying. I'm sorry. 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,760 The spider's web of corruption and abuse in this company 62 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,640 was unbelievable and very dark. 63 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:37,360 Without question, Harrods failed these ladies. 64 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,640 The lawyers organised for a shredding truck 65 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,840 to come to my lawyer's office, where we placed everything in. 66 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,640 It was shredded in front of us, including tapes I had of him. 67 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,520 I do think it's important that we stand up 68 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,680 and expose actually who Mohamed Al Fayed was. 69 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,880 And I think it's time. 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,520 ARCHIVE: Harrods, everything, London. 71 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,480 The most interesting and beautiful store in the whole of Britain 72 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,600 and one of the most famous in the world. 73 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Harrods is the best store in the world. 74 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,040 When I grew up, you were always told that you could buy anything 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,560 at Harrods, weren't you? 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,880 You could buy an elephant or you could buy, you know, 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,360 a piece of cheese. 78 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,160 ARCHIVE: If you could understand such a place, 79 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,160 you would understand a lot about the nature of Britain. 80 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,920 The sort of people who come to shop at this temple 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,200 are from no single social class. 82 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,480 They are united by money rather than by bloodline. 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,000 Harrods was, I think, for a lot of people, a world of possibilities. 84 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,920 Willy Wonka's chocolate factory. 85 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,040 You'd walk in and just be amazed. 86 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,800 ARCHIVE: They delight in the suggestion 87 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,280 that they are getting the best. 88 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:52,680 They are usually female. 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,400 I just loved the architecture. 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,520 I loved the ground floor, the food halls. 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:58,800 I loved it. 92 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,320 I lived, breathed, worked Harrods. 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,200 It had deep, deep history, 94 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,760 and so when I first joined, that was one of the reasons 95 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,760 I wanted to be part of the organisation. 96 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,680 It had a huge reputation. 97 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,760 {\an8}Harrods is the greatest store in the world. 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,800 {\an8}And... 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,720 ..it's not only a business to run, but it's history. 100 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,080 It was another world, but it was a world that, you know, 101 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,840 we were part of. 102 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:31,360 We were family. 103 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,040 My name is Sam. 104 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,200 I started working in Harrods in September 1986. 105 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,560 I was there for seven years. 106 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,240 I worked in the toy department. 107 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,680 The toy department was exactly like a Wonka factory. 108 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,440 You had everything - 109 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,760 doll's houses, petrol driven cars. 110 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,960 The car would have to match Daddy's. 111 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,880 There was one occasion I was late for work, 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,080 and this child had just come hurtling towards me 113 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,840 in this tractor trailer 114 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:00,440 and ran over my foot. 115 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,400 I heard, "William, come back! William!" 116 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,840 And I just thought, "Oh, that was Prince... 117 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:07,400 "..that was Prince William running over my toe." 118 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,520 Britain's most famous department store is no longer British. 119 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Harrods, one of London's most famous landmarks, 120 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,480 has been bought by three millionaire Egyptian brothers - 121 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,120 the Al Fayed family. 122 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,000 What did I know of Mohamed Al Fayed? 123 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,440 I think everyone knew he was obviously a very wealthy man. 124 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,680 {\an8}I think he emerged on the scene sort of in the mid '80s 125 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,560 as quite a powerful businessman. 126 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,400 I knew that he was the owner of Harrods 127 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,280 and that he had acquired it in a rather dubious way, 128 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:40,280 which was a bit of a scandal at the time. 129 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:42,840 NEWS REPORT: The report says that Mohamed Fayed and his brother 130 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:44,680 were dishonest when they bought Harrods 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,920 and the House of Fraser Group in 1985. 132 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,080 They misled the Secretary of State for Trade and others 133 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,400 by saying they had extensive international business interests. 134 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,440 He was basically a crook. Let's be honest about it. 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,040 {\an8}He was a crook and a fraudster in terms of how he acquired the money 136 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,240 to even buy Harrods. 137 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,880 I think he - naively, perhaps - 138 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,040 he thought, "Ah, if I own Harrods, they'll embrace me." 139 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,400 I own the shop and no-one ever will be able to take it away from me. 140 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,600 Only God. 141 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,200 The royal family, the establishment, "I'll get my passport, 142 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,840 "I'll end up in the House of Lords." 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,120 Mohamed, at that time, 144 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,000 I thought he was kind, charitable... 145 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,240 Lovely seeing you. 146 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,160 ..and I thought that he had been misrepresented. 147 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,960 He was very generous with children. 148 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,760 He would invite families into the toy department 149 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,600 and he would shower them with lavish gifts. 150 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,840 NEWS REPORT: Mr Al Fayed has said that he'll pay 151 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,800 the half a million pounds it will cost 152 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,880 to relocate the specialist bone marrow transplant unit, 153 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,360 where the desperately ill child was being treated. 154 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,880 Such a kind, generous man. I know he does a lot of things for charity. 155 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Stand up, Goldie! 156 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Five, four, three, 157 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,400 two, one. 158 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,760 The sale is open! 159 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,520 So many people would come up to open the Harrods stores. 160 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,240 His public persona was so gregarious 161 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,840 and so, like, out there, 162 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,720 and he would invite all the stars - 163 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Tony Curtis, Dame Edna Everage... 164 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,000 The most beautiful shop in the world. 165 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Pele, Muhammad Ali, Demi Moore, 166 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,560 Bruce Willis, Sultan of Brunei. 167 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,560 Most of the Spice Girls, all except Mel C. 168 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:38,120 Didn't get her for the tick box. 169 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,560 Michael Jackson. We closed the store for Michael Jackson. 170 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:45,880 If he knew there was a VIP actor or someone in the public limelight 171 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,800 in the store, he'd zoom down and he would buy them presents, 172 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,760 just be all over them. 173 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Definitely courted notoriety 174 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,280 and wanted to befriend anyone that was in the public eye. 175 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,240 When I started at Harrods, 176 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,040 I was 19, turning 20. 177 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,880 The very first time I met Mohamed, 178 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,600 I remember exactly where I was. 179 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,160 I was standing in Way In womenswear 180 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,960 tidying up a rack of clothes, 181 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,200 and I could see him walking towards me with his bodyguards. 182 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,400 He came up to me and said, "Hello. How are you doing?" 183 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,440 You know, and I was like, "Hi". 184 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,880 Just a little bit nervous and just sort of a bit like, "Ooh!" 185 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,200 Partly sort of, you know, flattered, in a way, that he'd come up to me. 186 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,680 Why, why me? And, you know, sort of, 187 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:33,680 "Ooh, he's the chairman," you know. 188 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,320 From working in Way In to working in the chairman's office, 189 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,240 there were no next steps, it was super fast. 190 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,080 He asked me to go up to meet him in the chairman's office, 191 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,120 and when I went to see him, he asked me what I wanted to do. 192 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,520 I said I wanted to be a buyer. 193 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,240 That's why I was on the training course. 194 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,400 And he was going, "Oh, I can make that happen for you. 195 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,120 "I can make anything happen for you. Come and work for me. 196 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,600 "Come and work at the chairman's office." 197 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,600 So, I mean, it's... 198 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,160 What can you say? 199 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,680 "Yes, yes. Great. Thank you." 200 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:07,040 Next day, I was working for him in the chairman's office. 201 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,960 The offices there were quite plush. 202 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,560 Al Fayed had a very big office, 203 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:20,280 {\an8}and along the hallway were all the management offices 204 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,040 {\an8}for his top brass. 205 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,440 It seemed quite glamorous, to begin with. 206 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Before I started working at Harrods, 207 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,760 I was introduced to his top PA. 208 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,600 She looked through my CV. 209 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Al Fayed came in. 210 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,920 He gave her the nod, and I was offered the job. 211 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,640 But before I took the job, I needed to have a medical. 212 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,600 Everyone had them, and it's just an extra perk of the job, 213 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,680 I was told. 214 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,440 {\an8}We were told to go for a medical check-up 215 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,960 {\an8}with Dr Ann Coxon in Harley Street. 216 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:56,240 {\an8}I was told that it was because his son Dodi 217 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,120 {\an8}had a low immune system, 218 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,080 {\an8}and so everybody in the office needed to be checked. 219 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,760 {\an8}Ahead of time, nobody said, 220 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,160 {\an8}"By the way, when you come in for your medical, 221 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,520 "you're going to be given an internal sexual health test," 222 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,160 because I think I would have had time to worry about that. 223 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,920 It just happened. They told me as I was there. 224 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,280 This is from a doctor, Wendy Snell, 225 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,920 who was the Harrods doctor at the time. 226 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,320 It says, "The gynaecological swabs, including chlamydia, 227 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,080 "also showed no signs of infection, a very reassuring finding." 228 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,840 So I don't know who that's reassuring for. 229 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,000 {\an8}At one point during the medical, 230 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,720 {\an8}the doctor, Wendy Snell, who was doing my examinations, 231 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,880 {\an8}she did my smear test, 232 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,800 and then she went on to check my ovaries. 233 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,040 And I just remember the doctor, you know, 234 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,640 saying how wonderful he was, 235 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,920 and didn't he look after his employees so well? 236 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,200 And, mm... 237 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,880 My results were actually sent directly to the chairman, 238 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,000 so quickly that by the time I'd got back to my desk, 239 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,520 he knew the results of my tests. 240 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,400 {\an8}You know, things should be confidential 241 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,880 {\an8}between a patient and a doctor. 242 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,840 {\an8}She certainly did not conform to that. 243 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:16,720 There is no benefit to anybody in knowing what my sexual health is, 244 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,560 unless you're planning to sleep with somebody, 245 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:23,480 which I find quite chilling now. 246 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,960 So, when Mohamed first asked me to his office, 247 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,000 I was sort of nervous and excited at the same time. 248 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,800 But when I first arrived, he seemed super friendly, 249 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,760 sweet and interested, like a nice... 250 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,360 ..man. 251 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,320 Initially in that first meeting, he didn't say it, 252 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,640 but very soon after he said, "Just call me Papa, Papa." 253 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,880 He said, "Come to Papa. 254 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,840 "You only trust me. I'll look after you." 255 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,480 I thought it was odd that he said Papa, because that was weird. 256 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,520 But then I thought maybe he did mean it 257 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,560 in a sort of fatherly way, initially. 258 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,760 Only a few days after I'd been working there, he would sort of... 259 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,320 ..bear hug me to start with and greet me with a hug and... 260 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,560 And that was very early on. 261 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:07,560 And that that made me feel a bit weird, you know. 262 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,760 But then I thought, oh, he's being nice and protective, 263 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,440 like a sort of, you know, fatherly figure. 264 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,560 But then it just... 265 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,360 SHE GROANS 266 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,800 ..the hugs became more, well, sort of... 267 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:25,680 ..uncomfortable and, erm, yeah, I didn't feel right. 268 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,200 And then, I mean, the hugs, he'd just try and kiss me, 269 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,160 and I didn't want to be kissed. 270 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,840 It's like one minute, you know, he's saying he's going to protect me 271 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,600 and look after me and he's like... like a dad or a father, 272 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,160 and then the next minute he's trying to kiss me, 273 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,080 and I don't know what to think. 274 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,480 I remember seeing an ad in the paper for temporary shop floor assistants 275 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,160 at Harrods, met with the recruiter there, 276 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,080 and then, like a couple minutes later, 277 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,040 Mohamed Al Fayed walked into the room, 278 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,320 basically looked me up and down and said, 279 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,400 yeah, when can I start? 280 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,440 He asked me to go along to his private residence 281 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:14,040 at Park Lane the following day to set things up. 282 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,800 60 Park Lane is a big block of apartments 283 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,280 situated right next door to the Dorchester Hotel, 284 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,760 and I think he pretty much owns the whole block, 285 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,320 if I'm not mistaken. 286 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,040 There are lots of flats in there, 287 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,120 as well as his private quarters. 288 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,480 I first noticed that Mohamed 289 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,880 had this sort of modus operandi every day. 290 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,000 He would call one senior assistant 291 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,400 and ask which girls were working that day. 292 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,760 Then one of us would be summoned to his office. 293 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,120 So, do you remember the first time 294 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,960 {\an8}that you were sent up to Al Fayed's office? 295 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,760 {\an8}I do remember the first time. 296 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,160 {\an8}It took a while to be asked to go up there. 297 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,680 {\an8}I think when we were on our back row, 298 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,200 we were wondering why everyone else was going up and we weren't. 299 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,720 I remember that first time 300 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,080 he said, "What are you doing for the weekend?" 301 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,200 And I remember saying, oh, I was going home to my parents. 302 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,760 And he presented me with a £50 note. 303 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,000 "Here's some money to go towards 304 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,640 "taking something home for your parents." 305 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,760 I remember feeling like, "Hmm." 306 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,680 You know, "Why are you giving me some money?" 307 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,960 And then I remember him just doing this. 308 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,120 SHE GROANS 309 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,240 "So, just, just say thank you to me." 310 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,640 So I was encouraged to give him a kiss on the cheek. 311 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,720 One of those, after a while, became, you know, he would... 312 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,280 ..kind of grab your face and he would push it to his lips. 313 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,440 And it was just, you know, there was nothing you could do. 314 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,280 He had his hands in, you know, on your face. 315 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,640 My experience was pretty much identical. 316 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,920 And it's something that we buried for 30 years. 317 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,560 My one time of going into his private sitting room 318 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,520 was...was essentially my last day. 319 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,360 And, um, it didn't take long for him 320 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,640 to come towards me. 321 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,480 Essentially he just... I was sitting on the sofa 322 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,120 and he just pushed himself right on top of me. 323 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,480 I just pushed him. 324 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,400 You know, you... This happened so quickly, 325 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,800 and I pushed him and I ran out. 326 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,800 I trusted him, because he had five children. 327 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,480 Mm. So it wasn't the first thing to cross my mind, 328 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,480 what the sort of long game was, as far as he was concerned. 329 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,400 He was basically grooming us, wasn't he? Yeah. 330 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,280 {\an8}I felt deeply ashamed 331 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,080 {\an8}about what happened at Harrods 332 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,200 {\an8}and my life and my time with Mohamed. 333 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,720 From the day it happened to now, 334 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,920 I haven't really ever spoken in any detail about my experiences. 335 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,720 I was... Literally just turned 16 when I joined Harrods. 336 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,920 Quite often we'd end up working till seven or eight, 337 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,880 nine o'clock in the evening. 338 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,920 So, quite early on, he asked whether or not I wanted to have use 339 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,280 of an apartment, an apartment block in Park Lane, 340 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,040 and would I like use of that, 341 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,640 and it was very much sold to me at the time as, we work late together, 342 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,200 if you don't want to go home, 343 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,760 you can just grab a cab and you'll be there safely 344 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,320 and you have nothing to worry about. 345 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,360 So I agreed that that would be a good idea. 346 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,640 That night, he asked that when I'd seen the apartment, 347 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,920 would I join him and have a drink. 348 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,520 I was taken up there by a member of the security team, 349 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,080 and I remember going into the room, 350 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,200 I was a bit surprised that it was a lounge area, 351 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,280 and then really surprised when Mohamed came out 352 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,520 in a dressing gown 353 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,680 and what appeared like nothing underneath the dressing gown, 354 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,600 from what I could gather. 355 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,280 He then poured two glasses of champagne 356 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,680 and said, "We have to celebrate. 357 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,400 "This is a good..." You know, "This is a good day." 358 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,440 {\an8}He called me into his office, probably around 9:30 that night, 359 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,960 on the pretext that he wanted to show me a painting 360 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,360 that he had recently acquired. 361 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:09,400 As we're going upstairs into his private quarters, 362 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,960 I can hear this little clicking noise. 363 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,440 And then I realise he has a little device in his hand 364 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,760 that's actually locking the doors behind. 365 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,600 It felt like... "Am I going to be trapped in here?" 366 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,600 He asked me at Harrods if I would meet him after work, 367 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,160 if I'd come to Park Lane. 368 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,240 You can go up and you go in the lift and you see the security around, 369 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,520 so you feel like you're obviously being watched. 370 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,040 It's really intimidating. 371 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,800 It's a lot of security. Why is there so much security? 372 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,920 And he came back dressed in just a silk dressing gown. 373 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,520 He basically grabbed me into a slow dance. 374 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,400 He was holding me really tightly... into, like, a clench. 375 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,120 He grabbed my right arm 376 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:59,720 and he just placed it aggressively over his... 377 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,560 I could feel he had an erection. 378 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,960 When he started to touch me, 379 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,160 I think the first thing I said 380 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,360 was, "What are you doing?" 381 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:08,680 I genuinely felt confused 382 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,720 by what was going on. 383 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,720 I remember saying to him, "You've asked me 384 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,840 "to look at you as a father figure. 385 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,120 "I can't do that if you're behaving like this. 386 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:19,000 "This is not how a father would behave to a daughter." 387 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,600 He pushed me back on the sofa and he climbed on top of me. 388 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,200 Undid my top, or pulled my top, put his hand inside my bra. 389 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,680 He was clearly aroused. 390 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,720 Put his hand inside my underwear. 391 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,200 Put his hand inside me. 392 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:38,680 And I remember just thinking, 393 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,960 "Whatever's going to happen, just get it over with," 394 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,400 and I just kept saying to him, "Please don't do this. 395 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,320 "I can't do this." 396 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,920 He started to sort of get closer and closer and closer, 397 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,440 and he's pushed himself onto me and pushed me down on the sofa. 398 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,120 You know, putting his hands down my top and up my skirt, 399 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:57,960 and he was getting heavier and heavier and heavier. 400 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,280 I was scared. 401 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,480 And he just pushed himself on top of me, but I'm strong 402 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,360 and I started kicking him, and I kicked him, and I kicked him, 403 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:13,240 and I kicked him, and I kicked him off, and I kicked him really hard. 404 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,960 I thought, "He's going to rape me." 405 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,720 Definitely thought he was going to rape me. 406 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,280 His trousers coming down. 407 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,800 Get him off! Get him off! Get him off! GET HIM OFF! 408 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,480 I can't...from that day to this, 409 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,400 work out what stopped him. 410 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,800 It would have been really obvious to whoever took me back 411 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,000 to my apartment that something had happened in there. 412 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,000 I was dishevelled, I was crying. 413 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,800 I was clearly shocked. 414 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,760 I don't think I slept a wink that night. 415 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,640 I joined Harrods to be a buyer and it was so far, everything, 416 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,640 my whole life was so far from that now. 417 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,880 It was just a living nightmare. 418 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,040 He used to sort of make you feel 419 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,320 like he really cared 420 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,840 for your safety. 421 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,320 I was...19. 422 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,200 He called me and said, "Yeah, you finish late tonight? 423 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,720 "How are you getting home?" I said, "I'll just take a cab." 424 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,120 He said, "No, it's dangerous. 425 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,520 "You know, you want to stay in one of the apartments?" 426 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,000 So I said yes. 427 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,400 Then the phone went and it was Mohamed saying, 428 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,800 "Yeah, you all right? What are you doing? 429 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,960 "You like the apartment?" 430 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,840 And he said, "I've got something to show you. 431 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,880 "Will you come up?" 432 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,720 And I found myself in his apartment 433 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,720 and...he asked me to sit on the bed. 434 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,160 And his hand's on my leg. 435 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,160 He was kind of laughing, joking. 436 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,600 But he would get firmer in his grip 437 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,440 and it's very obvious what he wants. 438 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,200 I'm trying to get up. 439 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,280 I made it obvious that I didn't want THAT to happen. 440 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,040 I did not give consent. 441 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,120 I just wanted it to be over. 442 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:30,240 I just remember feeling... 443 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,000 his body on me... 444 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,840 ..the weight of him. 445 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,320 Just hearing him make these noises... 446 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,600 and then...just going somewhere else in my head. 447 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,560 He raped me. 448 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,480 When he was done, he said, "Go and wash." 449 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,160 You blame yourself. 450 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,840 You really blame yourself. 451 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,040 You're there to do a job, but that's your boss 452 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,720 standing there in front of you in a dressing gown. 453 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,960 And even when you're trying to get out of the situation, 454 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,680 I'm trying not to offend him. 455 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,360 I think it was 2018 when I first found out about this from Sophia. 456 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,440 I'm a TV producer by profession 457 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,960 and I couldn't let it go. 458 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,800 I just had to just get to the bottom of it. 459 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,360 I've spoken to certainly dozens, 460 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:48,480 but certainly I know to be of affected, and I want to speak to, 461 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,000 we're into triple figures. 462 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Things have kind of seeped out before about him, 463 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,000 but those allegations have been on more the mild side 464 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,520 of things - sexual harassment. 465 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:10,320 But I've spoken to at least four women who have categorically told me 466 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,640 they were raped by Fayed. 467 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,800 He was a complete monster. 468 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,360 And I just knew I needed to get that out there. 469 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:23,200 I can't believe the web, how big it's getting, how large it is. 470 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,840 It's horrifying. 471 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,160 He had this dome around him of either security 472 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,080 or his staff members. 473 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,480 Not all of these knew what was going on, but many did. 474 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,520 Why they are helpful to talk to me is because they can help corroborate 475 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,720 the culture of fear there at the time, 476 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,560 or what the routines were, how Fayed operated. 477 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,360 I joined the recruitment department, 478 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,480 and then was promoted 479 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,720 to become personnel manager for... 480 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,640 ..two areas of the store. 481 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,880 From time to time, I would get a call from one of, um... 482 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,560 ..Mr Mohamed's secretaries, asking me 483 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,040 about a specific sales assistant that Mr Mohamed had seen 484 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,000 while he was walking the store, 485 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 and could I please either interview them for a job in his office 486 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 or he would like to interview them. 487 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,880 And in the early days, I think I was naive enough 488 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,760 to think that he was giving them a career opportunity, 489 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,600 but quite quickly I knew differently. 490 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,240 If there were requests that came along like that, I would... 491 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,120 I would pretend that I hadn't been able to find them. 492 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:39,600 I thought that might just deflect his attention away from them. 493 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,280 My name's Tony. I worked in Harrods for ten years. 494 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,840 {\an8}I worked at the toy department, which was fantastic, 495 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,160 for about a year, and then I was moved to the Egyptian Hall 496 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,920 to take a department manager position. 497 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,720 The Egyptian Hall was a sort of shrine to Egypt 498 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,800 within the department store. 499 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,240 On the lower ground floor, you've got a mini sphinx, 500 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,800 and all along the walls 501 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,640 you've got Egyptian-style columns and architecture. 502 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,440 INTERVIEWER: There seems to be a slight resemblance 503 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,440 between the Sphinx on the wall and yourself. 504 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Yeah, it happened that... I don't know how, 505 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,440 but it happened that I look like the Sphinx. 506 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,040 The daily walk, he would either start or finish 507 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,160 at the Egyptian Hall with the pipers. 508 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,880 The bagpipers were security guards in the Egyptian Hall, 509 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,560 so I spent a lot of time, you know, 510 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,920 talking to the security guards there, yeah. 511 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,200 They got more gossip from the close-knit security. 512 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,600 They spent the whole time with him 513 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,480 and they sort of would pass on little stories 514 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,440 about what he was up to. 515 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,160 They would say things like, you know, there was groping, 516 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,440 nonconsensual touching. 517 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,160 I guess molestation perhaps would be hinted at. 518 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,040 It was well known, everybody knew about it, and it was a joke, 519 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,000 and it was laughed about. It was like, "Oh, you know, he's... 520 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,160 "You know, this person's going to be a manager of..." 521 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,360 Or, you know, "..a manager in five minutes because she's gone up to... 522 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,560 "..she's gone up to Al Fayed's office. Ha-ha-ha!" 523 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,680 This sort of thing. It was... It was very jokey. 524 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,160 Yeah, looking back on it now, 525 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,000 it's, it's pretty repellent, honestly, actually. 526 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,480 And I was part of that, I must admit. 527 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,800 It was a horrible, horrible nightmare. 528 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,600 It was really hard to get out of it. 529 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,880 I can't explain how it ground me down every single day. 530 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,800 I couldn't leave, I didn't have a home to go back to, 531 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,480 I had to pay rent and I knew I had to go through this 532 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,680 and I didn't want to. 533 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,880 It was horrible. 534 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,840 And I... And my head was scrambled. 535 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,400 I'd gone at the age of 16 536 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,760 and ended up working 537 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,800 for Mohamed relatively quickly. 538 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,200 So all of those experiences, to me, 539 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,040 after four years, became my norm. 540 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,800 And I think that's one of the hardest things, 541 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,920 thinking back to that whole experience now, 542 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,520 is that we all stood and watched each other walk through that door, 543 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,960 thinking..."You poor girl, it's you today," 544 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,800 and feeling utterly powerless to stop it. 545 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,600 I have exactly the same feeling now of regret, 546 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,920 frustration about Al Fayed 547 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,440 that I had about Jimmy Savile. 548 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,560 The late '80s were a fascinating time for journalism 549 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,880 and, of course, the Royal family 550 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,760 were the focus of huge, huge attention, 551 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,320 particularly Princess Diana. 552 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,720 And colourful characters like Al Fayed were also fascinating. 553 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,520 When I was at the News Of The World, 554 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,840 this would be about 1986-87, 555 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,200 there had been rumours about him 556 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,840 molesting or harassing young female employees. 557 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,520 We did hear about a girl who was, I think, about 18 at the time, 558 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760 who he'd...he'd groped. 559 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:07,080 We did manage to speak to her, but she was basically terrified. 560 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880 She made it plain that this wasn't unusual with Al Fayed, 561 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,960 but, you know, she certainly wasn't going to start 562 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,680 giving interviews about it 563 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,080 and she was terrified of the repercussions 564 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,040 if she did, and that she felt that no-one else would, either, 565 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,760 that his power and, you know, and intimidatory qualities 566 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,920 meant that no-one would actually speak out. 567 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,080 There was most definitely a culture of fear across the whole store, 568 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,280 from the lowliest of the low to the most senior person. 569 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,480 You're on the shop floor 570 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,720 and these, I think, five or six burly security guards 571 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320 start barging through your department. 572 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,240 The majority of the security guards 573 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,480 were all either special forces or army or ex-police. 574 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,480 It was well known in Harrods that the phones might be tapped. 575 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,000 I was told, "Sit there, and even if there's no work, 576 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,640 "kind of look like you're working, 577 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,520 "because in that flowerpot across the hallway, there's a camera." 578 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,200 That's why none of the other girls, 579 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,520 we couldn't talk to each other properly about it, 580 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,680 because we all thought we were being bugged. 581 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,360 There's this one particular evening 582 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,040 where I'd gone back to the apartment. 583 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,480 I laid on the bed. 584 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,800 The phone rang. I picked it up. 585 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,160 He just went, "Yeah, why are you lying like that?" 586 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,200 "And I was naked at the time." 587 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,120 My whole body turned cold because what I then realised 588 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,280 was clearly there was some sort of surveillance 589 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,880 actually in the apartment itself. 590 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,640 The abuse against women, I mean, 591 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,160 I was aware of it when I was on the shop floor. I knew. 592 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,360 And what I think, if I know, everybody knew. 593 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,160 Anyone who says they didn't, they're lying, I'm sorry. 594 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,560 They're lying. It wasn't even a secret. 595 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,800 It was known around the whole company. 596 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040 Again, security knew. 597 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920 And I would say that they should come forward and speak up. 598 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,200 I can understand why some colleagues I have, or people that I work with 599 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,480 who don't want to speak up about these events. 600 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,960 {\an8}They are afraid of, if they don't show total loyalty to a principal 601 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,560 then it's going to affect their future employment. 602 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,960 But they all know deep down in their hearts 603 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,320 that what occurred was tragic for those victims. 604 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,560 I did notice on many occasions when we arrive, say, for instance, 605 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,400 perfume departments, he would get the manager, before he arrived, 606 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,640 to line up the girls, four or five young ladies. 607 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,000 They were literally on parade and he went to each individual one 608 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,400 as if to, you know, size them up. 609 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,240 As time went on, our senior managers would say, 610 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,880 "You are aware that Mr Al Fayed doesn't want you speaking 611 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,400 "to any female members of staff. 612 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,760 But we did know that certain things were happening 613 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,320 to certain female employees at Harrods and Park Lane. 614 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,960 We have a control room in the basement with security cameras, 615 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960 but they only observed the corridors 616 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,400 up to Mr Al Fayed's private residence doors, 617 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,560 so we would only see the girls going in to the door 618 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,560 and then close the door behind him. 619 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,080 And then in the morning we'd see them depart, or even after an hour. 620 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Some were wearing the Harrods uniform still. 621 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,480 I did question it. I said that's strange behaviour, 622 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,840 but they said, "Well, if you're not happy with that, 623 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,560 "you know where the door is." 624 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,920 {\an8}I worked for Mohamed Al Fayed from the mid '80s to the early '90s. 625 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,360 Six years in total. 626 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,960 You would normally, for a principal, 627 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,560 if you're there, your job is to protect his life. 628 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,080 I can say for myself and a few others 629 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,280 that you wouldn't stand in front of a gun for Al Fayed. 630 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,600 If he was seeing girls, it would be in Park Lane. 631 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,560 One instance, two girls came into the building 632 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,560 and we were told to send them up to the top floor, 633 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,800 and then later on they came down and came out of the lift, 634 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,760 and one of them was really upset and crying, 635 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,040 and I took her outside and said, "What's the matter?" 636 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440 She said, "It's horrible, horrible. 637 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,920 "We went into his apartment and he disappeared, 638 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,160 "then came out in his dressing gown and pyjamas 639 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,600 "and wanted us to sit on his lap and everything else." 640 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040 And the poor kid was in bits. 641 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,960 HE EXHALES 642 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,600 Now you would think, you know, you want to smack him in the mouth. 643 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,840 But then you never saw it happen, 644 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,120 because it was in his personal apartment. 645 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,960 So what could you do? And who do you go to? 646 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Him? 647 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,320 He had no doubt in his mind that he was... 648 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,000 His advances were unwelcome and nonconsensual. 649 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,520 There were tons of women that would have had sex with him 650 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,760 because he was a very wealthy and very powerful man. 651 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,840 Still he chose to pursue people that he terrified. 652 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,760 And he came in the bathroom 653 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,320 and started to touch me. 654 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,640 He turned me round. 655 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,120 He pushed me against the wall 656 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,920 and his hands came round my throat. 657 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,200 Before, I'd always felt the worst thing that could ever happen 658 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,640 was him raping me. 659 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,280 That day, I felt like the worst thing that could happen 660 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,080 is that he could stop me breathing. 661 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,080 Once I started finding more and more and more women, 662 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,480 they would tell me what they went through. 663 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,560 It's not something you can just leave. 664 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,760 Every waking minute, I would think about it 665 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,400 and I wouldn't stop again until Sophia woke up 666 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,920 in the middle of the night to come and order me to go to bed. 667 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,120 What's been horrifying is the level of prestigious institutions 668 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,880 that this abuse has taken place at. 669 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,360 We've got Harrods. 670 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,480 We've then got the Ritz Hotel, which is the jewel of Paris. 671 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,920 Some of the worst horrors I've heard 672 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,840 have been over in France, unfortunately. 673 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,680 Mohamed owned lots of properties, many abroad. 674 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,320 He owned the Ritz in Paris 675 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,960 and the Villa Windsor in Bois de Boulogne. 676 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,240 And he'd often go over there for trips to visit his properties. 677 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,920 He asked me to come along. 678 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,520 I was, again, very nervous, 679 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,920 but you couldn't say no. 680 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,640 He wanted me to fly over to Paris 681 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,360 that evening, 682 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,880 go and interview some of the chefs at the Paris Ritz. 683 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,920 When the plane landed, I was tapped on the shoulder 684 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,640 and it was one of Mr Mohamed's close security officers. 685 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,800 And I said, "Well, where are we going?" 686 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,200 And they said, Mr Mohamed's at the Ritz. 687 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,280 And we got to the Ritz 688 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,600 and the security officer who wasn't driving 689 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,400 got out of the car, went inside and was back within minutes 690 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,040 and said, "Mr Mohamed has left for the day. 691 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,240 "He's at the house in the Bois." 692 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,080 The house in the Bois de Boulogne was a house that Mohamed bought 693 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,200 and restored to its former glory. 694 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,240 {\an8}This house, just outside Paris in the Bois de Boulogne, 695 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,160 {\an8}was to be the home of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor 696 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,720 {\an8}for nearly 20 years. 697 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:29,960 FAYED: This love story will stay forever. 698 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,080 And by preserving this house... 699 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,040 ..my dreams came true to preserve as a mausoleum to this love story, 700 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,840 which I believe tremendously. 701 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,360 You would give up everything for a woman? Absolutely. 702 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,600 Absolutely. Because again, it's my life. 703 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,360 It's my happiness. 704 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,120 It's my pleasure. 705 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,480 And I want to live. I want to enjoy life. 706 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,240 And you're romantic? Absolutely. Of course. 707 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:55,600 Of course. 708 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,400 Villa Windsor is definitely not a place of love. 709 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,640 It was a place of being scared and terrified. 710 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,800 {\an8}Seeing the Villa Windsor on The Crown evoked so many memories. 711 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,880 When I saw the state the villa was in, 712 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,560 I said, "Money is no object." 713 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,760 Restoring it will be my honour and pleasure. 714 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:26,240 I don't want him to be seen as some kind of hero. 715 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,440 A former King of England lived here. 716 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,920 It just takes me back to when he took me there. 717 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,840 And they're not good memories. 718 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,200 I came in up the steps into the hallway, 719 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,720 and I was taken into the salon, and the door closed. 720 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,120 Mr Mohamed was there. 721 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,400 He asked me to come and sit on the sofa with him. 722 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,360 I started to wonder when he was going to have the conversation 723 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,720 with me about the interviews the next day, and it didn't happen. 724 00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:11,320 So I instigated that conversation, and he kept deflecting me away 725 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,880 from that and saying, "Don't worry about this. 726 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,440 "You will... You will stay with me tonight." 727 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,480 And I stood up and said, "I'm not staying." 728 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,200 Where he was standing was in quite close proximity to the wall behind 729 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,840 that had a doorway that was open, 730 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,000 and he took my right wrist and he pulled me through that doorway, 731 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,400 and it was a bedroom and there was a bed, 732 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,440 and he pushed me in and onto the bed 733 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:44,760 and then put his right leg over my hips so that I couldn't move 734 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,480 and held both my wrists. 735 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,080 And I was terrified. 736 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,120 This time I was even more scared, because I wasn't at home, 737 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,280 I was in France, I was in Villa Windsor, 738 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,920 {\an8}and he'd come upstairs into my room. 739 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,600 {\an8}Um, I was absolutely terrified. 740 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,160 I was under the covers. 741 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,000 He was wearing his dressing gown, undone like that, 742 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,320 got into bed with me and was trying to kiss me and push himself on me 743 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,760 and I, again, I just... I don't know how I did it. 744 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,360 I just kicked him off. 745 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,440 I kicked and kicked and kicked and kicked and screamed - 746 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,760 and, again, I got him off, 747 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,480 and I was just...just terrified. 748 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,960 When Mohamed was assaulting me, 749 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,040 because of the force of the situation... 750 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,440 ..I believed he was attempting to rape me. 751 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,760 The first thing that came into my head to try and get away 752 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,240 was, "We can't do this because I need to have a shower." 753 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,400 He released his grip. 754 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,040 I got out of the room as quickly as I possibly could, 755 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,560 and I was shown into a small bedroom. 756 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,960 I closed the door. 757 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,960 I immediately tried to see if there was a lock and there was no lock. 758 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,280 And I got the chair and put the chair under the door. 759 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,640 So I turned the shower on so it sounded like I was showering 760 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,920 to sort of cover any noise I might be making. 761 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,240 I put every item of clothing on that I had 762 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:15,080 so that if I slept through the night and he tried to come in, 763 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,480 it would take him a lot longer to get to what he wanted. 764 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,960 Then... 765 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,480 ..I might have a chance to get away. 766 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,920 I hadn't asked, "Where am I staying?" 767 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,560 Because surely Harrods 768 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,280 would have booked us a hotel room 769 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,760 and made sure of our safety. 770 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,600 Not delivered us like lambs to the slaughter 771 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,600 to Al Fayed's house. 772 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,560 You know, he threw himself on top of me. 773 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,280 His hands were all over me. 774 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,960 And you know, I was wearing a dress. 775 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120 He was very, very forceful. 776 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,000 I, thank God, reacted and kicked him off, 777 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,960 ran down the hallway into my room in sheer terror 778 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,080 because I just didn't know what would happen, you know? 779 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,000 Then about a week later, I got a letter in the post from Harrods 780 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,320 telling me that I had had my employment terminated 781 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,200 because I didn't use the right staff door. 782 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,240 Yeah. 783 00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,320 Nothing to do with the sexual abuse. 784 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,760 Shortly after that, there was an evening when my then boyfriend 785 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,880 and I had been out for a dinner. 786 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,080 We came round the corner, heading back to our car, 787 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,840 and one of Mohamed's close security guards 788 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,520 was just standing in the street looking straight at me. 789 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,560 And I said, "Oh, hello. What are you doing here?" 790 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,040 And he said, "Ah, that's the question. What are YOU doing here?" 791 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,160 And I believed that because I had said no to Mohamed, 792 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,760 they were just keeping tabs on me to make sure I wasn't telling anybody, 793 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,920 which made me even more fearful. 794 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,280 What do you think those women could have done in that situation 795 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,160 with a man that's very wealthy, has a lot of security? 796 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,440 What could they do? 797 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,760 All they could do would be go to the police, wouldn't it? 798 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,200 But nothing would happen because he was too powerful. 799 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,840 Can you imagine being 22? 800 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,160 A, you've got to tell your parents 801 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,760 that you've been abused by your boss. 802 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,280 B, you've then got to get someone to go to the police with you. 803 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,800 Three, you're fighting one of the most powerful men in the country. 804 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,600 Where's that going to go? 805 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,200 The spider's web of corruption 806 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,800 and abuse in this company 807 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,880 was unbelievable and very dark. 808 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,120 Any place of work has a duty 809 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,080 to ensure the safety of its employees. 810 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,960 When you take that to a classic place like Harrods, 811 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,160 without question, the company failed these ladies. 812 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,640 That's why we step in, 813 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,360 because they just did nothing to actually prevent this. 814 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,680 They did the opposite. They enabled it. 815 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,640 We're one of a number of representatives 816 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,760 that are acting for survivors of this horrific case. 817 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680 How are we? Very well. 818 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,320 This case has been quite an eye-opener for me. 819 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,200 It really has, in many ways. 820 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,200 In terms of the severity? Yeah. 821 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:48,120 And also the, um, extent of responsibility that I felt 822 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,880 with - we've got now over 15 survivors 823 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,040 and it's growing every day. 824 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,480 If what these ladies say is right - and we've no reason to dispute it - 825 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,880 then Fayed clearly was an absolute menace to society. 826 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,480 He was a serial sex abuser. A serial sex abuser. 827 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,320 First of all, 828 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,640 we're going towards a claim 829 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,400 for an unsafe system of work. 830 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,760 Yeah. 831 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:19,560 We are in possession of material to suggest that the extent 832 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,360 of the knowledge of those who were significant in Harrods 833 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,560 did rather make it, effectively, 834 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,600 at least an acquiescence to what was going on. 835 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,760 It's very much all sides coming together 836 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,760 of acquiescence in the abuse, the selection process, 837 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,800 the actual acts themselves, 838 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,760 and then effectively the ability of the arms, the tentacles, 839 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,800 to make sure that it's covered up. 840 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,400 One of the questions is, why was nothing said at the time? 841 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,160 It limited opportunities. 842 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,960 They couldn't go to HR because that was internal 843 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,840 and was controlled by the senior figures at Harrods. Yeah, yeah. 844 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,000 Where do they go? It's understandable that people 845 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,080 would think, "Well, there's nowhere for me to go." 846 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,640 There's really only one area where you do go if you seek redress... 847 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,160 And that's the press. ..and that's the press, to say, 848 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,720 "Actually, this is something very badly wrong here." 849 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,800 I had quite a number of conversations with Maureen Orth 850 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,200 and started to talk about the safety in numbers thing. 851 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,760 This kind of, you're not alone. 852 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,560 So I agreed to give a statement, but to do it anonymously. 853 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,680 You've got to remember, the people that we work for, 854 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,920 they have secrets that a lot of people don't know about, 855 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,040 and the only people that know those secrets are a security team. 856 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,600 John Macnamara was head of security 857 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,400 at the time. 858 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,000 His background was with the Metropolitan Police, 859 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,400 that he'd been a senior officer, 860 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,880 and that he was now in control 861 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,760 of all Mr Al Fayed's security arrangements. 862 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,120 But he was a nasty piece of work, you know, 863 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,520 would threaten people and things 864 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,800 and use his power as an ex-copper. 865 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,920 I know for a fact Macnamara knocked on someone's door personally 866 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,680 and threatened a girl. 867 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,480 "ALICE": John Macnamara contacted me before the article was published 868 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,760 at a point where I was living at a different address, 869 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,200 different telephone number and different work, 870 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,880 and I had no idea how he'd found me, 871 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,960 and said I wasn't to be involved in that article. 872 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,760 But if I went against his advice 873 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,080 that just to be aware that he knew where my parents lived. 874 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,440 It turned me cold. 875 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,800 And after I spoke to Maureen, 876 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,920 I've never spoken to anybody else 877 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,640 for fear of just what it might bring. 878 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,640 Mohamed Al Fayed never influenced anything that we published, 879 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,880 much as he sometimes tried to, 880 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,720 but Al Fayed cultivated influential people, 881 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:17,520 made them generous offers of free items from Harrods, 882 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,280 {\an8}and he also tried that on journalists. 883 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,200 But if it had come back out in the mid '80s - 884 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,920 groping, propositioning - he would never have got anywhere near 885 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,440 that he did get to the royal family. 886 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,000 Princess Diana would never have entertained going on a holiday 887 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,720 with Dodi Fayed. 888 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:37,400 He would have been disgraced. 889 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,800 I think he would have had difficulty holding on to Harrods 890 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,520 or even staying out of jail. 891 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,480 NEWS ARCHIVE: For British royal watchers, 892 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,920 it has been another day of float off the coast of Saint-Tropez. 893 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,840 Their focus, Mohamed Al Fayed's villa, 894 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,160 where the Princess and her sons are holiday guests. 895 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,400 This afternoon she boarded a 150-foot cruiser, 896 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,360 also belonging to the Harrods boss, to sail away from Saint-Tropez, 897 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,680 to slip away from the media glare. 898 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,240 Watching that clip of Saint-Tropez brought back a lot of memories 899 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,600 of my two summers I spent there. 900 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,120 Say "Hi", boys. 901 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,720 I think it was a very good replica villa that they found 902 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,280 for the location. 903 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,640 Your Royal Highness. 904 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,160 Mou Mou. 905 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,680 Yeah, it was a beautiful place, for sure. 906 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,320 But, for me, 907 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,320 it had some bad memories. 908 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,680 Here I am in the grounds. 909 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,880 And this is an actual shot of the bedroom I stayed in, 910 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,440 which was adjacent to the office. 911 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,240 Prior to going to Saint-Tropez, 912 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:57,160 I was told that I needed to go and have another check up with Dr Coxon, 913 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,000 and when I got to the villa, I could see that Mohamed, 914 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,680 he was absolutely livid. 915 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,760 He came up to me with a bottle of Dettol disinfectant in his hand, 916 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,000 and his first words to me were, "Who have you been fucking?" 917 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,240 I didn't know what he was talking about. 918 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,680 "I got the medical report back from Dr Coxon 919 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,840 "and it shows that you have, you know, an STD." 920 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,680 He said, "You have a dirty pussy and you're a fucking whore. 921 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,760 "You need to bathe in this." 922 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,200 He then handed me a packet of pills. 923 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,600 He said, "You need to take these pills, one every night, 924 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,480 "to clear up your infection." 925 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,320 I certainly didn't take the pills, 926 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,360 and I certainly didn't put Dettol in my bath. 927 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,440 And it wasn't until a few days later when I called home to my mum, 928 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,080 who at the time was working in a London hospital, 929 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,520 and I just asked her sort of casually 930 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,280 if she knew what these pills were, and she was like, 931 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,720 "Yeah, they're a major sedative, tranquilliser-type drug." 932 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,360 A few nights later, I was in my bedroom 933 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,880 and I could feel him sort of rattling the door, trying to get in. 934 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,840 I thought, "Oh, my God, he's going to come back 935 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,560 "and he's going to come in." 936 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,440 He's expecting I've taken these pills. 937 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,520 He thinks I'm passed out and, you know, do what he wants to me. 938 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,280 And sure enough, he came back. 939 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,040 I could hear the door jangling again, trying to get in. 940 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:30,080 And I think that was definitely the night that he attempted rape. 941 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,680 Certainly, I think that was his intention. 942 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,680 NEWS ARCHIVE: After the Princess's holiday 943 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,200 aboard Mohamed Al Fayed's yacht, 944 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,200 the media interest in the couple became intense. 945 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,840 You must be pleased for your son. 946 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,520 It's his business. Thank you very much. 947 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,400 {\an8}I was the United Kingdom editor of Vanity Fair in the '90s. 948 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,800 My role was to support everything in the story. 949 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080 I've never talked about it before, no. 950 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,160 This is the stuff got stranded with me. 951 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,360 And this is just a tiny fraction of what we have. 952 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,640 And there were massive, masses, amounts of interviews, statements, 953 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,160 affidavits, supporting evidence. 954 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,760 Within those affidavits, 955 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,200 there is evidence of serial criminality. 956 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,000 Looking at them again, I really think we had a very strong case. 957 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,920 I was approached by Vanity Fair back in the 1990s. 958 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,960 They tracked me down, I think, 959 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,160 because whoever was on the door 960 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,040 at Park Lane when I left 961 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,200 must have seen the state I was in 962 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,520 and remembered me or remembered my name. 963 00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:04,240 That evening, I'd already talked to him about the idea 964 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,720 of wanting to be an actress. 965 00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:10,840 When I walked in, we sat down and he started talking about how Dodi 966 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,520 was about to start producing the prequel to Hook, 967 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,840 and he gave me the script and he said, 968 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,480 "Read that passage from the script, straight to camera, 969 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,520 "and then I'll send it on to Dodi." 970 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,520 In context, it was fine, 971 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,240 but out of context it was "Take me, take me, please." 972 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,440 He comes round from behind the camera and he grabs me 973 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,280 and he kisses me on the mouth and I push him away. 974 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,240 And I do... I sort of say, "What are you doing?" 975 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:44,800 He said, "Right, if you won't sleep with me, 976 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,480 "I'm not helping you with your acting career." 977 00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:52,240 And I thought, "Get out, I've got to get out." 978 00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,480 I was able to get my things and get out. 979 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,560 NEWS ARCHIVE: Since the start of speculation about a new romance, 980 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,040 tabloid photographers have laid siege to the Park Lane home 981 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,760 of Dodi Fayed. 982 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,760 Late last night, the arrival of a car 983 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,200 similar to that owned by the Princess of Wales 984 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,520 led to reports that the two were sharing an intimate meal. 985 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,360 Frustratingly for the photographers, 986 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,080 there was no opportunity to see the diners, 987 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,480 although their own activities were constantly monitored 988 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,520 by security cameras which protect this exclusive part of Mayfair. 989 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,760 So I thought this was a big, big worry. 990 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,240 I thought he would almost certainly use his security equipment, 991 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:35,840 his CCTV, his bugging equipment, 992 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,520 to record some part of this relationship. 993 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,960 Fayed would just use her like he used everybody. 994 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,160 I let a friend of hers know. 995 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,800 I'm not even sure that the message reached her. 996 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,880 But we did have this one attempt to set us up. 997 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,720 Fayed had a lot of people working for him. 998 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:04,640 They asked for a private meeting with me 999 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,280 and they offered... It was a man called Paul Handley-Greaves. 1000 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,480 His story was that he had been fired by Mohamed, 1001 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,800 but then he said he would like to come to our side 1002 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:21,400 and offer us this video of Fayed having sex with an employee. 1003 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,440 Now, of course, if that had been the case, 1004 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,720 that would have been gold dust, but it was too easy. 1005 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:28,240 Who's going to make that tape? 1006 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,880 It's not Fayed and it's not going to be his security people. 1007 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,520 That tape does not exist. 1008 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,840 So I said if such a tape existed and I offered you money 1009 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,480 or even accepted it, I'd be in breach of the law 1010 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,360 because I'd be receiving stolen goods. 1011 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,600 Anyway, somebody - I won't say who - did make an offer. 1012 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,200 And we looked completely idiotic. 1013 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,200 To that degree, we were at war. 1014 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,040 One afternoon, I got a phone call from somebody. 1015 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,400 {\an8}Mr Al Fayed wanted to ask me if I would bear witness 1016 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,360 {\an8}to his good character in a court proceedings 1017 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,280 {\an8}that he had taken out against the journalist. 1018 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,320 And I said, "If you think I'm going to bear witness 1019 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,320 "to his good character, you've got another thing coming." 1020 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,000 And hoped that that was that. 1021 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:28,520 But received a courier package a few days later 1022 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:34,680 that included a statement that I had supposedly given, 1023 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,800 witnessing Mohamed's good character, signed by me, 1024 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,240 and I had not given that statement, and I had not signed a statement. 1025 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,440 At which point I was absolutely terrified 1026 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,280 because I thought, if this can happen, 1027 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,480 what else could happen to me? 1028 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,040 We had a lot of evidence. We were really in a strong position. 1029 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,800 They couldn't do anything about Maureen's article. 1030 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,560 Everything we found out in support, 1031 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,840 which is much, much sort of more damaging than Maureen's article, 1032 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,480 and to have women in court saying, actually, he came over 1033 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,760 in his dressing gown and offered me £100 for this or that sexual favour. 1034 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,000 It was completely... He couldn't have had that. 1035 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,600 This is BBC Television from London. 1036 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,760 Diana, Princess of Wales, has died after a car crash in Paris. 1037 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,960 The French government announced her death 1038 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,960 just before 5:00 this morning. 1039 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,960 Diana, Princess of Wales, had been a passenger in a car 1040 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,480 which crashed in a tunnel next to the River Seine. 1041 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,280 Her friend Dodi Fayed and their driver were also killed. 1042 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,840 Everyone was traumatised by the appalling events in Paris. 1043 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,720 Nobody was thinking about this libel case after what had happened. 1044 00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:52,400 The moment the crash happened and Diana was dead and Dodi was dead, 1045 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,880 forget it, you know? It was a bigger event. 1046 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,440 It was more important than our dispute. 1047 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,440 This is the letter reporting a settlement offer 1048 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,800 in the Al Fayed case. 1049 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,920 They're prepared to drop the case. 1050 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,040 And then what they wanted - and here's the key thing - 1051 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,480 we would destroy everything we've discovered, 1052 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,760 evidence, affidavits and correspondence. 1053 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,560 We would never refer to the case again. 1054 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,840 He'd won the game. 1055 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,800 We had got a case which could go to court and would have beaten him, 1056 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,120 and the only thing they want to do is to destroy everything 1057 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,400 that we'd found out in those two years. 1058 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,600 And that is the crucial proposal which we accepted. 1059 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,560 I was really cross that we'd been silenced, 1060 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:48,720 and we would not be able to publicise what had gone on 1061 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,600 at Harrods and in France, at the Bois de Boulogne residence. 1062 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,360 NEWS ARCHIVE: Two memorials to Diana and Dodi 1063 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,320 were in place at Harrods today. 1064 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,080 Tourists came to sign the books of condolence 1065 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,600 set up outside the store. 1066 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,400 In the afternoon, Mr Al Fayed arrived to thank them. 1067 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,760 God bless you, darling. It's no problem. Thank you very much. 1068 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,720 Once the accident happened, 1069 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,520 naturally, he became extremely famous. 1070 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:22,000 It involved arguably one of Britain's most important icons 1071 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,920 of the last century. She was beloved. 1072 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,200 But one can only have empathy for someone whose child, 1073 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,920 even if it is an adult child, was killed in such a horrific manner. 1074 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,640 We're at the Pont de l'Alma, 1075 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,240 where the accident that killed Princess Diana 1076 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,320 and Dodi Al Fayed happened. 1077 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,840 A year later, I was the assistant to Mohamed Al Fayed. 1078 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,280 As Mohamed Al Fayed's 1079 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,720 executive assistant at the Ritz. 1080 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,280 I was his only assistant on the European continent. 1081 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,400 I'd say probably 50% had to do with managing various aspects 1082 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,400 of the investigation. 1083 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,640 But at the same time, 1084 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,440 he could be putting his hand up my skirt. 1085 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,600 He would take my head and he would push it into his genitals. 1086 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,520 I realised relatively quickly I should never sit, 1087 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,880 because then I'm trapped. 1088 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,600 And I couldn't get out. 1089 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,920 I couldn't get out of the chair. 1090 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,920 Mohamed Al Fayed was like an apex predator. 1091 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,400 Often going into his office, 1092 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,440 when he summoned me, there was like, um, excitement. 1093 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,360 Like a... Like... 1094 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,960 And then it moved so fast. 1095 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,520 He had done this for so long. 1096 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,560 He enjoyed the chase and he enjoyed... 1097 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,800 ..I guess, the fear in my eyes, or our eyes. 1098 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,960 I was always consumed with fear. 1099 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,320 I was consumed with keeping my job. 1100 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,400 I just thought, I'll do two years here. 1101 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,040 I'll get my letter of recommendation and then just out. 1102 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,600 It will be a trampoline to something really great. 1103 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,000 Bite the bullet and get through it, right? 1104 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,520 Before I learned what I have done, 1105 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,560 I had no issue with Mohamed Al Fayed 1106 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,560 at all. I guess I was sympathetic to him, if anything. 1107 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,280 You know, the whole death of his son. 1108 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,920 When Dodi died, public sympathy was so immense 1109 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,480 that he was then untouchable. 1110 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,600 The Big Story, I found reference to it online 1111 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,640 in some rabbit hole I was down. 1112 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:19,320 We did start to peel the lid on what Fayed was. 1113 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,040 {\an8}FROM LAPTOP: This young woman is prepared to talk, 1114 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,960 {\an8}but she's too frightened to be identified. 1115 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,280 She accuses Mohamed Fayed of repeated sexual harassment 1116 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,840 when she worked with him at Harrods. 1117 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,760 Some were anonymous because they were terrified. 1118 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,040 {\an8}When Mr Al Fayed came into my office, 1119 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,240 {\an8}if I were standing by the filing cabinet, he would come and grope me, 1120 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:48,040 make obscene remarks about my sexual life, my private parts. 1121 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:54,080 Nothing in that was as serious as what we now know to be. 1122 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:59,360 However, clearly he was at bare minimum exposed as a groper - 1123 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:04,520 and that is sexual harassment, sexual assault, and that is a crime. 1124 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,560 These allegations were in the open. 1125 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,440 They were out there. They were public. 1126 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,200 There's no way on the planet that senior execs at Harrods didn't know, 1127 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,480 but it just carried on continuing. 1128 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,480 It should have caused huge concern, 1129 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,240 but it didn't. 1130 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,080 It bounced off him and before we know it, he's back on telly, 1131 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,240 acting the clown with Ali G, etc. 1132 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,880 {\an8}Me and you, Mou, is gonna be like a pair of rappers. Excellent. 1133 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,280 {\an8}Like, I is Snoop. You is Dr Dre. 1134 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,440 {\an8}I is Chuck D, you is Flavor Flav. 1135 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,320 I is the Method Man, you is the Ol' Dirty Bastard. 1136 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,600 LAUGHTER You are the dirty bastard, not me! 1137 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:48,920 DJ, give me the beat! 1138 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,240 ♪ Here come the shopkeeper Mohamed 1139 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,880 ♪ Here come the shopkeeper Mohamed 1140 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,360 ♪ Him the libel case winner Al Fayed 1141 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,040 ♪ Him got a nice face 1142 01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,480 ♪ Al Fayed... ♪ 1143 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:03,160 So Mohamed Fayed presented himself as a clown. 1144 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,040 And people only see the clown. 1145 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,640 Please welcome back Mohamed Al Fayed. 1146 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,600 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1147 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:12,840 Thank you! 1148 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,560 Thank you, thank you. 1149 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,080 Thank you. 1150 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:27,880 What they don't realise is that behind that clownish buffoonery, 1151 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:32,200 that eccentricity, lies a very, very, deeply dark, 1152 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,320 determined sexual predator. 1153 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,480 It is a absolutely classic disguise. 1154 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:47,480 He went on into the noughties and later behaving in that way, 1155 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,880 and he never paid for it. 1156 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,440 Look, I know I may appear as though I've got a teenage crush, 1157 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,040 but there's something intoxicating about standing next to an anarchist, 1158 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,520 {\an8}especially an anarchist billionaire. 1159 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,280 {\an8}And you can count those on the fingers of a mitten. 1160 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,960 So when I was hired, the documentary You're Fayed 1161 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,520 I think just came out a couple of days beforehand. 1162 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,760 FAYED: 1163 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,880 He did come across as he was having quite a laugh. 1164 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,280 FROM LAPTOP: Oh, you're naughty! 1165 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,120 He was definitely obsessed with sex. 1166 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,360 {\an8}There was no sense of humour about it. 1167 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,920 {\an8}It was highly unpleasant. 1168 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,960 {\an8}It became clear to me that this job was going to be a short one. 1169 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,360 He could definitely be charming, 1170 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,280 but I think that's mostly the image that he would like to give off. 1171 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:41,120 He used to do a walk around and talk to members of the public. 1172 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,640 Viagra for tonight. Oh. 1173 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,240 He would hand things out 1174 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,120 and invite people to maybe work for him in the future. 1175 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,400 And I think it was often quite an event 1176 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,960 for anybody who he came across. 1177 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,080 I had just turned 14 1178 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,720 when Mum and I... 1179 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,240 ..met Mohamed Al Fayed in Harrods. 1180 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,400 Everyone was asking for photos of him, 1181 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,960 so, you know, we asked for a photo with him. 1182 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,360 We got chatting and he asked me 1183 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,800 to work for him in Harrods, 1184 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,480 and I said, "I would love to, but I can't. I'm underage." 1185 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,600 And he said, "It's fine, we can find a way." 1186 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:30,440 And obviously for me, I was - of course, how amazing. 1187 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,080 I had started working at Harrods when I had just turned 15. 1188 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,640 I was told not to talk about my age. 1189 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,560 I started to see him at the beginning like a father figure, 1190 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,560 you know, just wanted the best intentions for me. 1191 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,960 And then as time went on, I just started to see some weird... 1192 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,280 Like, the longer hugs and the longer kisses, 1193 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,880 and then the phone calls started happening on my mobile. 1194 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,840 You know, I'm a 15-year-old 1195 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,680 and he's now calling my personal mobile. 1196 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:06,480 I hope that from today, people see what he was really like. 1197 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,640 Mohamed Al Fayed is a rapist. 1198 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,240 I think he's a serial rapist. 1199 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,280 I joined in 2007 1200 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,080 and it was my first job in London. 1201 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,800 I think his behaviour was inappropriate from the start. 1202 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,800 He would make comments about girls being on their periods, 1203 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,120 grabbing their crotch area, 1204 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,560 not stuff that you would expect to be spoken about 1205 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,600 in an office environment. 1206 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,000 His behaviour would become more scary while I was on the trips. 1207 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,800 My first trip was actually to Abu Dhabi 1208 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,080 and that's when I realised, 1209 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,080 actually, he's not joking, he's serious. 1210 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,120 I was away in a foreign country that I'd never visited before 1211 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,520 and he was trying to get in my room in quite an aggressive manner. 1212 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,320 It was absolutely terrifying. 1213 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,400 The other senior PA, who'd been travelling with him numerous times, 1214 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,400 she just said, "Look, it's what he does. He'll give up eventually." 1215 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,120 The incident happened in May 2008. 1216 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,240 I was asked to go to his, um... 1217 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,280 Up to the boardroom. 1218 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,680 He was in a funny mood. Like, a very bad mood. 1219 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,120 Started just getting really, like, hugging me 1220 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,400 and touchy and feely and rubbing himself against me, 1221 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,080 and, um, and then, um, he just grabbed my face 1222 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:32,240 and tried to, like, just basically put his tongue in my mouth. 1223 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,400 I mentioned that I was 15, and what are you doing? 1224 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,040 And he said I was turning into a beautiful woman, 1225 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,240 and he grabbed my chest. 1226 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:46,920 I pushed him off, and he saw I was freaked out and scared, 1227 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,200 and he just went into a rage 1228 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,160 and just started screaming at me and just... 1229 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:00,840 SOBBING: Sorry. 1230 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,200 I was a child when this happened. 1231 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,080 You know, he was nearly 80 and I was 15. 1232 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,760 I spoke to my parents 1233 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,800 and we all thought the best people maybe to talk to were the police. 1234 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,160 I was reporting child sex abuse within a working place. 1235 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,400 And, um, that's when it all went bad. 1236 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,520 There was a leak within the police force 1237 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,320 which led to them going to the press. 1238 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,280 The owner of Harrods, Mohamed Al Fayed, 1239 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,800 has been interviewed by police 1240 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,360 in connection with an allegation of sexual assault 1241 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,080 against a girl under 16. 1242 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,680 NEWS REPORT: Mohamed Al Fayed has denied an allegation 1243 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,320 that he sexually assaulted a teenage girl. 1244 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,240 I was told not to leave the house. 1245 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,680 I was put in a safe house. 1246 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,200 We were told by the police that there was an inside investigation 1247 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,920 within the police force 1248 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,440 to why and how my information had been leaked. 1249 01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:53,440 I couldn't trust anyone at this point. 1250 01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:56,800 The allegations, which first surfaced in a Sunday newspaper, 1251 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,720 are that the schoolgirl met Mr Fayed 1252 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,120 while she was shopping here with her mother. 1253 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,480 It's alleged he asked for her phone number and later invited her back. 1254 01:09:05,480 --> 01:09:08,720 She claims it was then that he sexually assaulted her. 1255 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,640 When the allegations of the 15-year-old girl came about, 1256 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,640 the only time I really knew about it 1257 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,000 was when I was summonsed into an office with a police officer 1258 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,440 and questioned myself about his behaviour, 1259 01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:23,480 and if I thought that there was any chance that he'd done 1260 01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:25,360 what he was being accused of. 1261 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,440 Obviously my answer would have been yes, 1262 01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:31,240 but given I was escorted by a Harrods lawyer, 1263 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,360 my answers were, "No, he's fine." 1264 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,960 You know, "He's...he's appropriate. 1265 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,160 "I've never seen this behaviour." 1266 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,920 Looking back, I wish I'd been strong enough and brave enough to say yes, 1267 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,760 I think she was right. 1268 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,320 He did not attend under compulsion 1269 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,640 and the meeting lasted for less than half an hour. 1270 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,480 Mr Al Fayed vehemently denies this allegation 1271 01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:00,040 and is confident that his name will be cleared. 1272 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:06,120 I think if I met that 15-year-old now, I would be... 1273 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,640 I'd be so sorry that I didn't stick up for her 1274 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,880 and that I didn't do the right thing. 1275 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,600 I wish I'd been brave enough at the time, but I just wasn't. 1276 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,400 I think that's what's pushed me to speak up now. 1277 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,560 It feels like it's a chance to make right all the wrongs, 1278 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,400 even though we were wronged ourselves. 1279 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,400 I'm glad she's speaking up now, 1280 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,320 and I appreciate what she's had to say. 1281 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,120 But it's also, like, I wish she'd said something. 1282 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,600 But, you know, we're all under... We live in fear. 1283 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,640 We were all under fear, you know. He was a scary person. 1284 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,760 So, you know... 1285 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,920 It wasn't until I'd experienced the more serious side 1286 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,800 of his harassment that I realised it wasn't something 1287 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,720 he was playing around with. He was serious. 1288 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,680 And it got to a point where I just didn't know which way to turn. 1289 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,360 So I bought a small Dictaphone that I had in my pocket 1290 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,200 in case I needed to record something that was happening. 1291 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,440 And these are the transcripts from those recordings. 1292 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,320 It's really, I think, the only kind of evidence that we've got 1293 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,000 of what he's done to me and to others. 1294 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:32,120 And one of them was in Paris, in his residence there, Villa Windsor. 1295 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:37,600 I just put the recorder on, like, a bedside table, 1296 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:42,440 and obviously I fell asleep and woke up with him telling me, 1297 01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:44,120 "Are we having a party tonight?" 1298 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,000 I was so shocked at him coming in 1299 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:51,400 that I made out I had had an allergic reaction to nuts. 1300 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,040 He's basically telling me to relax 1301 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,120 and, "It's important for you to make love and relax." 1302 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,680 I said, "I just want to go to sleep on my own. 1303 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,400 "Mr Fayed, I don't want to. Mr Fayed." 1304 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,240 And he kept saying, "Relax, please relax." 1305 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,400 How can you relax when you're in that situation? 1306 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,240 He walked out and he was angry. 1307 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,440 These were taken just before the final incident. 1308 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,320 There was one particular trip to Paris 1309 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,080 that was just the final straw for me. 1310 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,040 Arriving in Paris, we'd be escorted by police. 1311 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,280 There'd normally be six or seven police cars and motorbikes 1312 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,120 following us with full siren all the way through Paris 1313 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:43,480 until we arrived at Villa Windsor, where we were to spend the evening. 1314 01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:45,960 I took myself off to bed. 1315 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,520 I woke up startled and he was just there, 1316 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,840 wearing nothing but a silk... 1317 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,640 ..like, dressing gown-type, smoking jacket thing. 1318 01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,880 And he tried to get in the bed with me 1319 01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,880 and I told him, "No, I don't want you to." 1320 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,840 And he proceeded to just keep trying to get in the bed, 1321 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,560 at which point he was kind of on top of me 1322 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,160 and I really couldn't move anywhere. 1323 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:15,240 I was kind of face down on the bed and he just pressed himself on me. 1324 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:27,160 At that point, I just cried and he got up 1325 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,800 and quite aggressively said to me, "Go in there and wash yourself," 1326 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,800 and pointed to the bathroom. 1327 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,440 He told me there was a bottle of Dettol in there 1328 01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:39,120 and I just stood in the bath and washed myself as I was told to. 1329 01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:46,320 Obviously he wanted me to erase any trace 1330 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,880 of him being anywhere near me at that point. 1331 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,440 Is he a rapist? 1332 01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:54,800 He's... Yeah, he's a rapist. 1333 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,680 In your head, is he a criminal? 1334 01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,600 Yeah, he's a criminal. 1335 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,320 My case was definitely the closest to going to the courtroom. 1336 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,080 Definitely. 1337 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,800 But that was... It didn't. 1338 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,680 I handed my phone to the police for evidence. 1339 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,680 The evidence on there would have been the phone log 1340 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,440 of the calls that I received. 1341 01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:18,240 Once I received my phone back, it wouldn't turn on. 1342 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,640 It doesn't - it didn't work. It was dead. 1343 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,160 Nothing. Nothing would work. Nothing would work on it. 1344 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:29,320 The charges got dropped, from not enough evidence. 1345 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,880 I managed to get my dates mixed up. 1346 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,880 I said it happened on the Saturday 1347 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,320 when it happened on the Friday, the incident. 1348 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,360 And then it just came down to just that one day 1349 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,400 with, you know, I was like, "How could I get the day wrong? 1350 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,920 "How could I get the day wrong?" 1351 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,520 But it was not my fault. 1352 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,080 I do not feel that it was a strong enough reason 1353 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,560 for that case to be dropped, I really don't. 1354 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,000 I got back to the safety of my house, 1355 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,560 and I decided I wasn't going back, 1356 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,440 and I decided to engage with a lawyer. 1357 01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:06,040 When my lawyer contacted Harrods, he sent them transcripts 1358 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,720 from the tapes that I had recorded 1359 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,160 and told them that I was leaving on the grounds of sexual harassment. 1360 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,080 My lawyer, he advised that obviously it was really sensitive, 1361 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,120 given who he was. 1362 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,960 They said, look, we just need to do this quickly and quietly. 1363 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:35,320 The agreement for me leaving was I had to shred all of the evidence, 1364 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,640 and in return I would be given a sum of money 1365 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,800 and would be left alone. 1366 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,760 The lawyers organised for a shredding truck 1367 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,920 to come to my lawyer's office, where we placed everything in. 1368 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,720 It was shredded in front of us, including tapes I had of him, 1369 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,040 my phone that had messages and voicemails. 1370 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,320 Really quite nasty voicemails on them. 1371 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,640 Someone from HR was present for the shredding 1372 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,720 of all of the evidence I had. 1373 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,240 Harrods, I think they knew the significance 1374 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,960 of having this kind of information available. 1375 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,800 I think they just wanted to get rid of it as quick as possible 1376 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,640 and get rid of me as quick as possible. 1377 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,920 I thought I'd lost the transcripts, 1378 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:19,320 but actually what I did have was the transcriptions sent to my lawyer 1379 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,520 in my sent items of my email account at the time. 1380 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,320 I was advised it would be in my best interest not to talk, 1381 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,360 that I was to keep it quiet. 1382 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,960 All these years, not being able to talk about something 1383 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,040 that's so unfair. Like, it's so unfair 1384 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,600 to make somebody go through something like that 1385 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,840 and then expect them not to talk about it. 1386 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,320 It's cruel. 1387 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,120 There's often the case in any settlement 1388 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,440 that nondisclosure agreements form part 1389 01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:57,000 to keep the settlement confidential. 1390 01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,920 And there's no specific issue with that. 1391 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,400 My position on this, however, 1392 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,120 is some of these people 1393 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,800 were being subjected to criminal offences, and therefore, 1394 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,960 in those circumstances, I certainly would question the role 1395 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,000 of a nondisclosure agreement. Yeah. 1396 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,920 We say there has been clearly attempts by the senior people 1397 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,480 at Harrods to sweep this under the carpet. 1398 01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:22,760 And here is someone who has all the resources in the world... 1399 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,600 And all the power. ..and a number of people in whose interests it is 1400 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,040 to actually say, of course, nothing to see here. 1401 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,120 Mohamed Al Fayed was always the one that got away. 1402 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,040 I've tried to correct the record 1403 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,280 and expose this horrific sex offender. 1404 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,640 This is all... 1405 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,000 This is quite old school. 1406 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,160 These are all internal drives... 1407 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,640 {\an8}..I haven't looked at for years, some of these, 1408 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,680 but it's basically the footage of films 1409 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,680 that I've made over, like, 20 years, 1410 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,600 all locked away on these drives. 1411 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,600 So "Star" is Starsuckers. 1412 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,040 It's one of the most shocking, revelatory, 1413 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,480 powerful things I've ever filmed. 1414 01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:07,320 The aim of Starsuckers was to pull back the curtain 1415 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,080 of the media machine 1416 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:13,760 and sort of expose a lot of the deceit and wrongdoing 1417 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,800 that was, at the time, quite prevalent 1418 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,040 in the British and international media. 1419 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,560 It was a bit of a kind of Wild West culture, really - 1420 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,960 and in the middle of that culture was Max Clifford, 1421 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,720 sort of, you know, pulling the strings in all directions 1422 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,520 and sort of being this sort of all-powerful figure 1423 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,320 who could either put false stories into the media to promote a client, 1424 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:37,240 or stop negative stories coming out about people he represented. 1425 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:38,800 We couldn't just go to him and say, 1426 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,840 "Hey, Max, why don't you just tell us how you censor the press?" 1427 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,840 And the way we came up with was through undercover filming. 1428 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,200 MAX CLIFFORD: All right, no, it's like...it's like Mohamed. 1429 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,160 Yeah, yeah. 1430 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:35,560 It's gone on for 15 years. 1431 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,120 And would keep going on, and continue to go on. 1432 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,360 So, there was no question that what we had was dynamite. 1433 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,320 Um, the problem started to come 1434 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,560 was when we were getting the film legally checked, 1435 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,040 and the problem came from the fact 1436 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,840 that Mohamed Al Fayed was notoriously litigious. 1437 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,160 We had an excellent law firm, 1438 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,960 but they said to us, if you put this material in your film 1439 01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,360 as it stands, you will be sued. 1440 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,440 What we had to do was to beep out Fayed's name. 1441 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,120 BRACKETED WORDS BEEPED 1442 01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:12,920 Yeah, yeah. 1443 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,680 Fayed was the one that we missed. Fayed was the one that we let go. 1444 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,040 It makes me feel absolutely sick that he was doing this, 1445 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,160 and he was able to get away with it for so long, 1446 01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,520 and we weren't able to stop him. 1447 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,720 Those women were let down. 1448 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,600 Everybody's known of this behaviour, 1449 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:33,560 and I think no-one's really been able to do anything fully about it. 1450 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:38,440 I have spoken up about my time there on numerous occasions. 1451 01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:42,520 Every time the press tried to do something, it was shut down. 1452 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,200 I was approached...I think it was a Dispatches programme, then. 1453 01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,160 We'd done the filming, and that was shut down. 1454 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,080 And I just remember being a little angry, 1455 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,880 but also thinking, here we go again. 1456 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,760 You know, it's been shut down in the magazines, 1457 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:09,320 it's been shut down in the papers, and now it's shut down on screen. 1458 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:13,240 NEWS ARCHIVE: The store, famed for its sales, was sold today. 1459 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,680 The handshake was more of a handover. 1460 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,520 After a quarter of a century in charge of Harrods, 1461 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,840 Mohamed Al Fayed was cashing in. 1462 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,400 It was after the #MeToo movement. 1463 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,840 Public opinion towards this sort of behaviour 1464 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,600 and towards these sort of people was changing, and it was changing fast, 1465 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:44,400 and I really felt that it was the moment to speak up. 1466 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,960 And I waived my anonymity for the programme, 1467 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,080 which I did not do lightly. 1468 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,440 VOICEOVER: Mohamed Al Fayed, super rich and powerful. 1469 01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:57,640 The famous former owner of Harrods 1470 01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,120 faces serious allegations. 1471 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,480 He said, "If you don't sleep with me, 1472 01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:04,800 "I can't help you with your acting career." 1473 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,520 It was a very key moment. 1474 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:11,680 It gave other women the courage to come forward and tell their story 1475 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,600 and to reach some kind of closure. 1476 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:19,040 However, for me it felt like it slightly sank without a trace. 1477 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:32,720 It was 2018 when I started to feel strong enough to do something. 1478 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,000 I couldn't ever get my career back. 1479 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,640 That was stolen from me and he took that from me. 1480 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,560 We went to the police station. 1481 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,040 I was filmed making my video statement, 1482 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,280 and then this all went forward 1483 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:47,840 with the police 1484 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,200 to try and take this to court or whatever. 1485 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:53,120 But Mohamed was too old to be prosecuted 1486 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:57,400 and they said he wasn't in the right state of mind, or, you know - 1487 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,160 so, they decided it wasn't worth pursuing, and it was dropped. 1488 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:07,480 We engaged a lawyer and they approached Harrods' lawyers. 1489 01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:10,080 It just took so long. 1490 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,120 It was only just before he died that they suddenly sent a letter 1491 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,480 saying they were willing to sort of, you know, compensate me. 1492 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,760 We're hoping this would happen before Mohamed died, 1493 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,880 so that he would realise he hasn't got away with this, 1494 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,800 so that he would know everything he's done is wrong. 1495 01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,400 NEWS MONTAGE: Just as we came on air tonight, it's been confirmed 1496 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,000 that the self-made Egyptian billionaire... 1497 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,520 ..Mohamed Al Fayed has died at the age of 94. 1498 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,520 He will be remembered as the man who owned Harrods. 1499 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,920 His deep obsession with British aristocratic society 1500 01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,280 was later fictionalised in the Netflix series The Crown. 1501 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,440 Does everyone in your family say things twice twice? 1502 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:04,800 No, no. 1503 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,920 I bet they do do, Mou Mou. 1504 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,440 I was angry that he hadn't been publicly shamed 1505 01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:12,120 for what he had done, 1506 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,840 for the amount of women he had, you know, destroyed. 1507 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,320 Just then I thought, "Oh, he's got away with it. 1508 01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,760 "There we go." I knew it was going to happen anyway. 1509 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,840 He was a tremendous life force. 1510 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,320 He was obviously controversial, 1511 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,840 but I feel that he did more good in this world 1512 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,520 than all his critics combined. 1513 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,080 The people who worked for him, and the people who were his customers 1514 01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,200 and the fans of his football club, 1515 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,080 they know the real Mohamed and they cherished his friendship 1516 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,040 and they cherish what he did. 1517 01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,520 It's not fair that he got to die with the legacy he did. 1518 01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,400 I know there are many other victims of Mohamed Al Fayed. 1519 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:59,120 It's just horrific to think that he got away with that. 1520 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,680 I think the fact that Al Fayed got away with as much as he did 1521 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,560 was because a lot of people 1522 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,760 engineered these situations on his behalf. 1523 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,680 Fayed would have stood a few paces back in these situations, 1524 01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,880 and everyone else would be out there doing his dirty work for him. 1525 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:27,560 The senior PA, I assume, is the person that set up 1526 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,480 and instructed the doctor to do my medical. 1527 01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:35,760 I think the doctor who did my medical should be held accountable 1528 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,120 for providing information to Mohamed, 1529 01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,960 which he used to take advantage of us. 1530 01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,080 There was always a group of people that knew where Al Fayed was, 1531 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,960 what his movements were. 1532 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,560 They can't say, "Oh, I never saw anything." 1533 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,240 May not have seen the act. 1534 01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,760 There was certainly a pattern to it all. 1535 01:25:55,240 --> 01:26:00,040 So I started thinking, how many people were in on this? 1536 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,080 Harrods, I think they knew the significance 1537 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,920 of having this kind of information available. 1538 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:09,600 A person like that has a lot of people who are drawn to money 1539 01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,440 and power, and do what is required of them by that man. 1540 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:22,800 It was, in hindsight, such a massive ring of corruption and sexual abuse. 1541 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:29,160 Many of those people have been named by these survivors in their accounts 1542 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,880 and statements, and it will only be a matter of time 1543 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,280 before they all need to be approached. 1544 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,520 Expect that knock on the door at some point. 1545 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:52,480 I want to deter any other Mohamed Al Fayeds in the making, 1546 01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:56,240 to stop them doing anything like this ever again. 1547 01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,400 It's important, this film, because it's a loud voice screaming 1548 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,400 at everyone to say this is not acceptable any longer. 1549 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,600 I've spent so many years being quiet and silent and not speaking up. 1550 01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,960 I hope talking about it now helps. 1551 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,840 That we can all start feeling better and healing from it. 1552 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,000 I think he damaged me in some way. 1553 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,880 But I'm moving on from that now. 1554 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,280 I want to put it all behind me now and forget about it. 1555 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,640 Move on and be strong. 197723

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