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Amber Burch, are both
now charged with murder.
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Ever since
Pazuzu was arrested,
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I've been trying to get
past the rumors and the
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sensationalist headlines to
get to the real story
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behind this man,
his crimes, his victims,
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and how this could have
happened in our community.
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For those five years
that Josh was missing,
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Jared did not receive
any social security money.
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It seems like the police
just didn't do their job,
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and maybe if we could prove
that we could get back
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some of the money that
Jared is entitled to.
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There's the search
warrants from 2014,
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and then we found out that
the search warrants were sealed.
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There is something in those
search warrants that
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law enforcement didn't want out.
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28‐year‐old Krystal Matlock
has been charged with
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accessory after the fact.
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Documents state she assisted
Algarad with concealing an
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unidentified male body between
June and August of 2009.
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Doctor actually
diagnosed him with
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Schizotypal
Personality Disorder.
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The guy's
clinically psychotic.
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Pazuzu Algarad was found
unresponsive in his cell
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at Central Prison at
approximately 3 am
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on the morning of October 28.
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The authorities
say it's a suicide,
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but they don't know exactly
how he killed himself.
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And the prison system
goes on and
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suffers zero repercussions.
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I'm going to get drugs.
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Lots of drugs.
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Then I'll feel better
about everything and
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it doesn't really matter
what I've done.
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I look up and it's midnight,
and my son is
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standing there in the door.
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And, his face looks
swollen and he's sweaty,
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eyes are bugged out,
and they're bloodshot.
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That's not your kid.
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What's become
of our America?
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From the police,
to the justice system,
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to social services and in
our communities in general,
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you know, it seems to me there's
an entire class of people
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in this country
that are being ignored.
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In writing these
articles about Pazuzu,
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our hope was that we could find
the answers to some of these,
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you know, pressing questions
that were going on in the case,
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especially for the victims,
for people like Stacey.
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With lack of access and
reliable intel,
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I wouldn t even do that.
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Perhaps we built her
hopes up a little bit and
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perhaps we did
Stacey a disservice.
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Was there any more
I could have done?
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I feel like I did everything
I could, but did I really?
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And maybe not.
I probably fell short.
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The case is done.
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Krystal Matlock
is being let out.
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The prosecutors and defense
attorneys are
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almost starting to pack up.
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And it was lunch time,
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and I was ready to go eat
my leftovers that
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my wife put in my little
lunch box for the day,
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and Amanda Martin
stood up...
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I saw Amanda out of
the corner of my eye.
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It's almost
like double Dutch.
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It's like, you know,
how do I, how do I jump in?
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I'm very often the unexpected
visitor to a court room.
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She said she wanted to raise
the question of whether
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these search warrants
could now be unsealed.
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So, we had these two
layers of problem here.
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You had a, a sealing order
that ran counter to
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the North Carolina
Public Records Law,
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and counter to the
cases interpreting
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the first amendment.
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Usually a search warrant
is sealed either to
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protect the integrity of
an investigation, or,
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to ensure the fair trial of any
defendants who are charged.
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What was it that was in the
search warrants that
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needed to continue to be sealed?
We didn't know.
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AMANDA: That the laws of public
records are there for
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very good reasons, and
the interest in that is
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never stronger than when
we're talking about oversight,
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if you will,
of law enforcement.
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(siren)
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These are people who
walk around with guns;
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they arrest people;
they search people's homes.
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I mean, they have more
power than you can imagine,
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and so, I'm not saying they
shouldn't have that power,
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but I always feel that the
tradeoff for that is that
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we should be able to see
how it gets exercised.
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At that point with Matlock
being the final defendant,
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I saw no reason to keep them
secret any longer
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because the investigation
was concluded.
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Everyone had been
brought to justice.
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Take the kids to school,
and you come home and
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you turn on the computer,
and there's, you know,
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a story in the Winston‐Salem
Journal, Mike Hewlett's
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been able to get these search
warrants shaken loose.
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And then it's that,
it's that case that's been
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in the back of your mind
talking to you.
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And I almost clicked on 'em
that first time and
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kind of hovered over the PDFs.
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Then, you know, I go back to
the article a few more times
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over the next couple days...
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Sitting around by
yourself thinking,
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is it like an addiction?
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You know,
as journalism is,
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it's a nasty business and
it's an awful addiction.
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And the highs you get
from it will never,
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never make up for the lows
and yet you keep doing it,
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you keep doing it
over and over again.
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Finally, I clicked
on that PDF...
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And I opened up these search
warrants and I read 'em.
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I have never seen a single
document come across my desk
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in my life that was as
egregious and that was as
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raw an example of
signals have been missed,
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bad jobs have been done,
people have been hurt.
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Five years; that's how
long it was from when
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Josh Wetzler was murdered
until the bodies were
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found in Pazuzu's backyard.
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The search warrants proved
that this case could have
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been solved within weeks
of Josh's disappearance.
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Where before we
only had rumors,
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now I got hard facts.
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And I'm diving back into the
Pazuzu story for one last piece.
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My hope is I can get this
community some answers.
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I can find out why this
happened in our hometown.
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Out in these boonies,
driving in the dark in
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Forsyth County out beyond
where the street lights are,
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looking for Miss Terina
Billings' house to speak to the
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first person that made contact
with law enforcement,
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and that was Miss
Terina Billings who reported
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that her father had
helped bury someone,
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possibly Joshua Wetzler.
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I want to put a face to the name
and see if there's any
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legit reason why the
Sheriff's Department decided
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the witness statement
wasn't credible enough
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to take seriously.
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‐ Hi, Terina Billings?
‐ Yes.
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‐ All right, nice to meet you.
‐ Nice to meet you.
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Why would your father be
hanging out with someone
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like 40‐something‐year‐old...
whatever the hell that was?
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He had just recently
been through a divorce and
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started hanging out
with Krystal Matlock,
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and I think they
were kind of dating...
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‐ Oh, I'm sorry.
‐ Yeah, so...
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He did whatever she wanted.
I remember...
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He came in that night
and he came in and
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sat down on the
end of the couch,
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and he was being really weird,
not really saying anything.
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And I remember he,
like he had his hands like this,
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and he went like this, like
he was smelling his hands,
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and I was like,
"What is wrong with you?
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What are you doing?"
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And he asked me have
I ever smelled death?
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I see you, I come in tonight ‐
you have a nice home,
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you're nice people,
you have an 8‐year‐old.
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Doing your thing.
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Is that the same person
I would have met
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if I'm a police
officer in 2009?
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It's been 9 years.
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Yeah, except I was
pregnant at that time.
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Clearly not, you know,
suffering from the effects
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of any kind of
drug habit, or...
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‐ Nothing like that?
‐ (laughs) No.
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‐ Did you go to college?
‐ I did.
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You have an education,
job, career.
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Yeah.
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And, how did they treat
you when you went in there?
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It was kind of really quick.
It was only about 15 minutes
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that I was there
speaking with them.
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They didn't really
seem like they cared.
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They just jotted down
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parts of what I said and
called it a day.
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I kind of forgot
about all this, so...
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Until years later when it
popped up on the news and
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I was like, ah,
I tried to tell 'em,
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but they didn't listen.
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I don't even like that my
father was involved in it.
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Sorry.
But, um...
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Like, when this
did happen and I, like,
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found out about it when
everybody was arrested,
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I was‐‐ I kind of‐‐ I was
happy my dad had passed away
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'cause I knew he would be in
prison right now for it, and...
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He wouldn't make it.
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I met a very together
young woman.
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I met a young woman who is
trying pretty hard to be the
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best that she can be
and is raising a child,
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and I met a young woman
was is very serious and
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who was very,
very credible.
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I see no upside for her on
going to law enforcement
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back then and telling them
what her father had told her.
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She exposes her father
to legal ramifications;
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she exposes her relationship
with her father to,
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that could destroy that
'cause now she's done this,
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and she possibly exposed
herself to physical danger
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because who knows what those
people over on Knob Hill
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were gonna do because
no one seemed to be
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laying a finger on 'em.
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With each shot I took,
like I just wished that
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it would be the one
that killed me.
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♪
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I just felt like dark.
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I just felt like dark.
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Well, the night when I was
sitting in the parking lot,
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I just felt like dark.
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I didn't even feel
like a person anymore.
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I felt like there was
no light in my life.
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I guess I ended
up doing, what, like,
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two grams within
like an hour.
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♪
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With each shot I took,
like, I just wished that...
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It would be the
one that killed me.
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So,
I figured...
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It was time
to be done.
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When I went... I, like,
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procrastinated for
like the entire hour,
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but like the last
fifteen minutes, I just‐‐
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He just asked what I'd been
doing, and I was just like,
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"Well, I've been working on
your Christmas present."
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So, I slapped a picture
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on the glass 'cause
we were between glass,
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and I slapped a
little abstract baby picture...
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This one,
my little baby (laughs)
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He's kinda slow sometimes.
Let him figure it out.
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It took him probably like
five minutes and
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he was just like,
"Are you serious?"
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I was like,
"Yeah, I'm dead serious."
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And he's like,
"We're gonna have a baby?"
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I was like, "Yeah...
Gonna have a baby."
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May 17th,
I went to detox,
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and I woke up at
7 o'clock in the morning
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with a doctor in my face
telling me I was pregnant.
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Five weeks pregnant.
(laughs)
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♪
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Two weeks after Pazuzu
murders Josh Wetzler,
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Terina Billings goes to the
police to tell them
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what her father told her
about a murder.
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Now, you know,
in my opinion,
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the unsealed warrants
make it seem like what the
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Sheriff's Department did may
have actually made things worse.
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Now, I decided to take the
documents to an
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old buddy of mine who's
a retired detective.
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He was actually on the
force for 30 years and
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his perspective in this
case is gonna be critical.
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Application for
search warrant.
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On August the 4th,
Foster goes to the location
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and actually talks to Pazuzu.
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He just says he went
there and at some point,
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the detective did tell him
that he'd received information
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from several individuals
that Pazuzu had shot and
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killed someone in his
basement and
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buried the body in the backyard.
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I don't know that I would
have told all that right then.
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Mhm?
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I would've found
some other reason.
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I'd 'a wanted to get in the
house or walk through the yard.
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I'd want to make some
observations because
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if he says, "I don't know
what you're talking about.
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Get off my property
and stay off," then,
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you're shot in the foot.
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I would 'a probably just
come up with something.
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Somebody says you're growing
weed in the backyard and...
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that way, then maybe
he would have said,
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you know, especially if that's
not true, he's gonna say,
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"I ain't growing no weed
back there. You can go look."
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That's what I want.
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I want him to give me that
access so that I'm looking
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for these other things, like
a body or a mound of dirt,
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freshly dug
hole or something.
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So, you know,
and they can lie to him.
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I would probably
take a look,
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continue to gather
information from sources,
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and then at some other time,
once I was just about ready
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to get a search warrant
or had the search warrant,
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then I might would
have gone out there
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before executing the
search warrant and said,
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"Now guess what your neighbors
are‐‐ or people are saying?"
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Next is‐‐
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So you got February 9, 2010.
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You got the two Crime Stoppers
tips that came in.
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So, right here is a
missed opportunity.
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Yes, sir.
300
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And then also
on that date...
301
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Looks like the detective
spoke with Stacey Carter.
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Are you telling me‐‐
Wait, wait, wait...
303
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That on the same day that
I went and reported Josh
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missing and told them
that he was buried
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in Pazuzu's yard ‐
on the same day ‐
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they had reports about
Tommy's murder?
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The police department did.
The police department did.
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I had no idea!
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I still thought they were
gonna think I was crazy.
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♪
311
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Oh my God.
I want to throw up.
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Like...
Nobody told me this.
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‐ I know.
‐ I had no idea.
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This makes me nauseous.
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00:16:16,538 --> 00:16:19,416
I had never heard of
Pazuzu until February,
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and that's when I
went to the police.
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And, nobody ever told me
that they had already
318
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received reports
of this happening.
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I just feel like the whole
case was just botched
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over and over again.
321
00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:34,514
Since when do
you just be like,
322
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"Oh, hey, did you
kill somebody?"
323
00:16:35,849 --> 00:16:37,517
"Nope. I didn't do it."
"Okay, cool."
324
00:16:37,517 --> 00:16:40,562
Like, that's not
how it works, right?
325
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Then, February the 23rd,
based on all of this information
326
00:16:43,899 --> 00:16:46,360
that he applies for and is
given a search warrant.
327
00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,612
So, they do that search
and they find nothing.
328
00:16:48,612 --> 00:16:50,113
Right.
329
00:16:50,113 --> 00:16:56,536
♪
330
00:16:56,536 --> 00:16:58,789
This is the interesting part:
"Lieutenant Foster consulted
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North Carolina State University
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about potentially utilizing
their equipment to
333
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assist with the search.
334
00:17:05,420 --> 00:17:07,464
Dr. Oliver's crew was
currently about to begin
335
00:17:07,464 --> 00:17:10,509
another project and
their services could not be
336
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retained until at
least two weeks.
337
00:17:12,970 --> 00:17:15,764
It is noteworthy to mention
that Dr. Oliver had
338
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mentioned to Lieutenant Foster
the cadaver dogs
339
00:17:18,850 --> 00:17:21,186
may or may not be able to
detect a buried body
340
00:17:21,186 --> 00:17:23,522
with the given circumstances.
341
00:17:23,522 --> 00:17:24,982
The Forsyth County
Sheriff's Office,
342
00:17:24,982 --> 00:17:27,901
as an agency, decided
that this investigation
343
00:17:27,901 --> 00:17:30,696
cannot wait to the above
stated time and
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00:17:30,696 --> 00:17:32,906
decided to proceed
with cadaver dogs."
345
00:17:32,906 --> 00:17:35,367
The irony. They couldn't
wait two weeks,
346
00:17:35,367 --> 00:17:37,286
so we had to
wait five years.
347
00:17:37,286 --> 00:17:39,580
♪
348
00:17:41,582 --> 00:17:43,542
On November the 8th, 2011,
349
00:17:43,542 --> 00:17:46,003
Cynthia James came
to the Sheriff,
350
00:17:46,003 --> 00:17:47,629
Forsyth County
Sheriff's Office and
351
00:17:47,629 --> 00:17:50,048
requested to speak with a
detective about a murder that
352
00:17:50,048 --> 00:17:53,885
occurred at her residence,
2749 Knob Hill Drive.
353
00:17:53,885 --> 00:17:57,389
Cynthia told Detective Amons
that she heard a gunshot and
354
00:17:57,389 --> 00:18:00,684
went to the area where
she heard the gunshot and
355
00:18:00,684 --> 00:18:04,438
observed Amber holding the
rifle and the Tommy subject
356
00:18:04,438 --> 00:18:06,398
slumped over on the couch.
357
00:18:06,398 --> 00:18:08,150
And wouldn't that get your‐‐
I mean, even if you've
358
00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:11,528
done a search there and
you came up goose egg,
359
00:18:11,528 --> 00:18:12,863
somebody tells me
that a murder took place ‐
360
00:18:12,863 --> 00:18:14,740
somebody's mom tells me.
361
00:18:14,740 --> 00:18:19,620
And they didn't do anything?
362
00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:22,831
And... Is there a reason?
363
00:18:22,831 --> 00:18:27,669
So, I asked that question.
We know that Pazuzu was
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00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:31,298
convicted of assaulting his
mother and we also know that
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00:18:31,298 --> 00:18:34,384
Amber Burch was convicted
of assaulting his mother,
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00:18:34,384 --> 00:18:36,261
in two different incidents.
367
00:18:36,261 --> 00:18:37,971
Amber Burch had been
arrested that previous night,
368
00:18:37,971 --> 00:18:40,641
November 7, 2011,
for domestic assault,
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00:18:40,641 --> 00:18:42,476
and she was at the jail.
370
00:18:42,476 --> 00:18:44,394
"Cynthia thought the
information she gave us
371
00:18:44,394 --> 00:18:46,980
would be enough to charge
Amber with murder and became
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00:18:46,980 --> 00:18:49,566
upset when we told her we still
needed additional evidence."
373
00:18:49,566 --> 00:18:50,942
Since you're the
owner of the house,
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00:18:50,942 --> 00:18:52,861
would you allow us
to search the house?
375
00:18:52,861 --> 00:18:54,863
‐ Yes.
‐ And she said no.
376
00:18:54,863 --> 00:18:56,823
Okay, what did they do
with that information?
377
00:18:56,823 --> 00:18:58,659
It looks like they didn't do
anything with the information.
378
00:18:58,659 --> 00:19:00,994
Nothing! I mean,
that's negligence.
379
00:19:00,994 --> 00:19:04,539
It's got to be.
I mean...
380
00:19:04,539 --> 00:19:06,375
Or they just didn't care.
381
00:19:06,375 --> 00:19:10,170
♪
382
00:19:10,170 --> 00:19:13,173
So, I contacted Cynthia to
see if she would speak to me,
383
00:19:13,173 --> 00:19:15,550
and really did not
think that she would,
384
00:19:15,550 --> 00:19:17,302
but she did.
385
00:19:17,302 --> 00:19:18,887
‐ Hi.
‐ Hello, hi.
386
00:19:18,887 --> 00:19:20,972
When he killed Josh,
what was that?
387
00:19:20,972 --> 00:19:27,187
That was a dark side.
388
00:19:27,187 --> 00:19:30,273
♪
389
00:19:30,273 --> 00:19:32,109
As soon as the Sheriff's
Department discovered bodies
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00:19:32,109 --> 00:19:33,902
in her backyard,
Pazuzu's mother Cynthia,
391
00:19:33,902 --> 00:19:35,862
she'd been
something of cipher.
392
00:19:35,862 --> 00:19:37,656
She's managed to stay
out of the papers and
393
00:19:37,656 --> 00:19:40,409
nobody's been able to
figure out where she was.
394
00:19:40,409 --> 00:19:41,785
She won't talk
about the murders;
395
00:19:41,785 --> 00:19:43,328
she won't talk about
her son assaulting her;
396
00:19:43,328 --> 00:19:45,163
she won't talk
about anything.
397
00:19:45,163 --> 00:19:47,332
You know, now, Tim Wooten
helped me track her down,
398
00:19:47,332 --> 00:19:49,751
and like so many of other
people close to Pazuzu though
399
00:19:49,751 --> 00:19:51,878
she really didn't want
to talk to me.
400
00:19:51,878 --> 00:19:53,505
I had an idea though
that she might talk
401
00:19:53,505 --> 00:19:55,382
to Ms. Stacey Carter.
402
00:19:55,382 --> 00:20:01,388
♪
403
00:20:01,388 --> 00:20:04,599
So, I contacted Cynthia to
see if she would speak to me,
404
00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:07,060
and really did not
think that she would,
405
00:20:07,060 --> 00:20:09,396
but she did
agree to meet me.
406
00:20:09,396 --> 00:20:12,441
So, my intention in going
and seeing her was
407
00:20:12,441 --> 00:20:16,570
not so much to, to shame her,
or blame her, or...
408
00:20:16,570 --> 00:20:19,740
or to get mad.
409
00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:22,743
I just want to
know the whole story.
410
00:20:22,743 --> 00:20:24,745
(knocks)
411
00:20:24,745 --> 00:20:32,002
(rainfall)
412
00:20:32,002 --> 00:20:33,170
(creaking door)
413
00:20:33,170 --> 00:20:35,172
‐ Hi.
‐ Oh, hi.
414
00:20:35,172 --> 00:20:37,799
‐ Stacey.
‐ Stacey, nice to meet you.
415
00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:40,135
Nice to meet you.
416
00:20:40,135 --> 00:20:43,847
♪ (clock chime) ♪
417
00:20:43,847 --> 00:20:45,474
‐ How's your son?
‐ He's good.
418
00:20:45,474 --> 00:20:51,813
Yeah, he's...
He's 13 now, so...
419
00:20:51,813 --> 00:20:54,149
Yeah.
Growing up fast.
420
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:56,860
They, they do. They‐‐
Once they hit teenagers,
421
00:20:56,860 --> 00:20:59,696
it's like,
where does the time go?
422
00:20:59,696 --> 00:21:01,698
Yeah, um...
423
00:21:01,698 --> 00:21:04,743
People keep asking me, like,
"What was Josh doing there?"
424
00:21:04,743 --> 00:21:06,745
And I was, I just,
I didn't know.
425
00:21:06,745 --> 00:21:08,371
I didn't know
they were friends.
426
00:21:08,371 --> 00:21:11,625
I had never heard of Paz until,
you know, well after that.
427
00:21:11,625 --> 00:21:13,293
Right.
428
00:21:13,293 --> 00:21:17,005
So, I was curious, you know,
about why he was there,
429
00:21:17,005 --> 00:21:21,968
and you know, especially like
what their relationship was.
430
00:21:21,968 --> 00:21:24,387
They were just friends,
as far as I knew.
431
00:21:24,387 --> 00:21:27,182
Liked the same music...
432
00:21:27,182 --> 00:21:30,894
And I think Josh, we had
just a little grill and
433
00:21:30,894 --> 00:21:33,104
I think he cooked, grilled.
434
00:21:33,104 --> 00:21:35,941
That definitely sounds like
Josh, grilling and music, yeah.
435
00:21:35,941 --> 00:21:37,400
‐ Yeah, yes.
‐ Yeah.
436
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,694
And Josh would come
over and sometimes...
437
00:21:39,694 --> 00:21:41,905
John would say, well,
"You know,
438
00:21:41,905 --> 00:21:44,032
he don't have anywhere to
stay tonight," or
439
00:21:44,032 --> 00:21:45,700
they've turned his heat
off or something...
440
00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:46,827
Yeah.
441
00:21:46,827 --> 00:21:48,411
And, "Can he
sleep on the couch?"
442
00:21:48,411 --> 00:21:51,248
So, I didn't have a
problem with it 'cause I,
443
00:21:51,248 --> 00:21:54,417
I enjoyed John
having friends.
444
00:21:54,417 --> 00:21:59,005
‐ Yeah.
‐ And people coming over.
445
00:21:59,005 --> 00:22:02,592
But when he killed Josh,
what was that?
446
00:22:02,592 --> 00:22:05,762
I mean was that, that was a
dark side. Like, that was‐‐
447
00:22:05,762 --> 00:22:08,515
That was something‐‐
That was the dark side and
448
00:22:08,515 --> 00:22:12,185
that was something that
came out of him that
449
00:22:12,185 --> 00:22:13,979
I don't know
where it came from.
450
00:22:13,979 --> 00:22:16,398
♪
451
00:22:16,398 --> 00:22:18,191
I really honestly think that
he just didn't know
452
00:22:18,191 --> 00:22:20,026
what he was doing.
453
00:22:20,026 --> 00:22:23,697
♪
454
00:22:23,697 --> 00:22:26,700
Ah, best I can recall
when the incident happened,
455
00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:31,872
I was getting ready for work
and I just hear all this noise,
456
00:22:31,872 --> 00:22:35,166
sounded like firecrackers
and it was in July, so,
457
00:22:35,166 --> 00:22:38,253
you know, I thought,
it could be firecrackers.
458
00:22:38,253 --> 00:22:42,966
So, I came out of
my room and John...
459
00:22:42,966 --> 00:22:47,637
He was not himself.
He was on drugs, or...
460
00:22:47,637 --> 00:22:50,140
Alcohol, or both probably.
461
00:22:50,140 --> 00:22:54,519
And I didn't even know
that he owned a gun.
462
00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:58,773
And, I don't know; he didn't
even know what he was doing.
463
00:22:58,773 --> 00:23:00,650
He did not know
what he was doing.
464
00:23:00,650 --> 00:23:01,776
Why do you think he did it?
465
00:23:01,776 --> 00:23:03,153
Were they fighting
about something?
466
00:23:03,153 --> 00:23:07,574
No, it was just
all so quick, and...
467
00:23:07,574 --> 00:23:12,078
I'm trying to take care of
John and here's Josh
468
00:23:12,078 --> 00:23:15,415
lying on the floor, and I
gotta protect my son and
469
00:23:15,415 --> 00:23:17,626
I'm freaking out and I
don't know what to do,
470
00:23:17,626 --> 00:23:20,045
and I had to get out of the
house and he's got this gun,
471
00:23:20,045 --> 00:23:22,964
so I thought he
could shoot me.
472
00:23:22,964 --> 00:23:24,341
Had he threatened
you before?
473
00:23:24,341 --> 00:23:27,344
No.
No, I mean, you know,
474
00:23:27,344 --> 00:23:34,809
all parents have arguments
and don't agree.
475
00:23:34,809 --> 00:23:37,228
So, then, how about
after that? I mean...
476
00:23:37,228 --> 00:23:39,147
I didn't know
what to do. I just‐‐
477
00:23:39,147 --> 00:23:41,983
Did you know what
they'd done with him?
478
00:23:41,983 --> 00:23:46,196
Yes.
John was just so...
479
00:23:46,196 --> 00:23:51,034
freaked out after he became
coherent that I guess
480
00:23:51,034 --> 00:23:55,705
he didn't know what else
to do but to bury him.
481
00:23:55,705 --> 00:23:58,333
And I want people,
other people, to know that,
482
00:23:58,333 --> 00:24:00,377
yes, John had some
mental problems,
483
00:24:00,377 --> 00:24:03,964
but he was wasn't a bad guy.
484
00:24:03,964 --> 00:24:07,801
♪
485
00:24:07,801 --> 00:24:10,136
They diagnosed him as
being agoraphobic,
486
00:24:10,136 --> 00:24:12,722
Schizophrenic, psychotic.
487
00:24:12,722 --> 00:24:17,185
And, that's when, you know,
I started getting help for him.
488
00:24:17,185 --> 00:24:20,105
But to continue with the
psychiatrists and so forth
489
00:24:20,105 --> 00:24:22,065
takes a lot of money.
490
00:24:22,065 --> 00:24:25,986
♪
491
00:24:25,986 --> 00:24:29,572
It just, it's hard to match
this person who's your son
492
00:24:29,572 --> 00:24:33,702
that you love so much
and did so much for,
493
00:24:33,702 --> 00:24:35,495
and how you saw him
with the view that the
494
00:24:35,495 --> 00:24:38,373
rest of the world has,
you know?
495
00:24:38,373 --> 00:24:39,749
You gotta remember
the good things.
496
00:24:39,749 --> 00:24:41,459
Yeah.
497
00:24:41,459 --> 00:24:44,838
Yeah, and I block out any of
the bad things, you know.
498
00:24:44,838 --> 00:24:49,843
He, he wasn't
by any means...
499
00:24:49,843 --> 00:24:53,221
an angel, but he sure
wasn't a bad person or
500
00:24:53,221 --> 00:24:56,850
a boogeyman or whatever...
501
00:24:56,850 --> 00:25:00,603
phrases people
have called him.
502
00:25:00,603 --> 00:25:03,690
I know you've got a
long way to go back home.
503
00:25:03,690 --> 00:25:06,735
I just wanted to thank
you again for coming, and...
504
00:25:06,735 --> 00:25:10,155
‐ Thank you.
‐ Hug.
505
00:25:10,155 --> 00:25:12,657
You know, my perception of
Cynthia is that she's somebody
506
00:25:12,657 --> 00:25:16,494
who's very disconnected
and kind of shut down.
507
00:25:16,494 --> 00:25:20,206
I feel like at some point
she was being terrorized,
508
00:25:20,206 --> 00:25:24,169
and she didn't want to admit it
that she was afraid of her son.
509
00:25:24,169 --> 00:25:29,674
I don't know...
Do I forgive Cynthia?
510
00:25:29,674 --> 00:25:34,304
Um...
Yes and no.
511
00:25:34,304 --> 00:25:39,059
I have compassion for Cynthia
and I'm sympathetic towards her.
512
00:25:39,059 --> 00:25:42,228
As a community, we've gotta
be prepared to reach into
513
00:25:42,228 --> 00:25:45,899
that darkness and
help somebody out.
514
00:25:45,899 --> 00:25:49,944
It's a failure on society
that she wasn't able to
515
00:25:49,944 --> 00:25:55,492
reach out and have help coming
at her from all directions.
516
00:25:55,492 --> 00:25:58,787
However, you know,
517
00:25:58,787 --> 00:26:00,997
she did some things that
were unforgivable.
518
00:26:00,997 --> 00:26:06,336
I mean,
she saw Josh die.
519
00:26:06,336 --> 00:26:11,800
And, she...
let it be covered up.
520
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,344
It could have stopped there.
521
00:26:14,344 --> 00:26:16,596
I think it's hard to
imagine, you know,
522
00:26:16,596 --> 00:26:20,100
your own child doing
something like that, you know.
523
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:24,229
♪
524
00:26:24,229 --> 00:26:29,567
This is John, my baby.
He was about 12.
525
00:26:29,567 --> 00:26:33,655
Looks a little bit like me,
don't you think?
526
00:26:33,655 --> 00:26:38,493
This is the day he was born,
chubby little guy.
527
00:26:38,493 --> 00:26:42,080
And here's my
little warrior again.
528
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,958
I think her
heart is, is broken,
529
00:26:44,958 --> 00:26:47,544
irreparably broken.
530
00:26:47,544 --> 00:26:50,463
I mean, I don't think
she's got a happy ending.
531
00:26:50,463 --> 00:26:53,633
♪ (ticking clock) ♪
532
00:26:53,633 --> 00:26:56,010
And here's one of
his teddy bears...
533
00:26:56,010 --> 00:26:59,264
♪ (music box) ♪
534
00:26:59,264 --> 00:27:02,142
...That we put in
the crib with him.
535
00:27:02,142 --> 00:27:04,144
(laughs)
536
00:27:04,144 --> 00:27:09,232
♪
537
00:27:09,232 --> 00:27:12,277
I just want to have
good memories of my son.
538
00:27:12,277 --> 00:27:17,365
♪
539
00:27:17,365 --> 00:27:19,033
And when I
called and I said,
540
00:27:19,033 --> 00:27:21,578
"Look, my son went out last
night and he didn't come back."
541
00:27:21,578 --> 00:27:24,247
And they told me, you know,
to go look in the ditch.
542
00:27:24,247 --> 00:27:27,458
And it's like... It's just
another dead one gone.
543
00:27:27,458 --> 00:27:34,007
Another dead black one gone.
544
00:27:34,007 --> 00:27:38,386
♪
545
00:27:38,386 --> 00:27:40,680
The way I see it, there are
real consequences resulted
546
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,184
from the poor police work
revealed in that search warrant.
547
00:27:45,184 --> 00:27:47,228
But perhaps the most
tragic thing about it is,
548
00:27:47,228 --> 00:27:49,230
it's possible that the murder
of Joseph Chandler ‐
549
00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:51,232
who we still really don't
even know that much about ‐
550
00:27:51,232 --> 00:27:53,192
could have been avoided.
551
00:27:53,192 --> 00:28:01,326
♪
552
00:28:01,326 --> 00:28:02,869
By the time they find
Joseph Chandler down by the
553
00:28:02,869 --> 00:28:04,579
Yadkin River,
there's two guys that have been
554
00:28:04,579 --> 00:28:06,289
in that backyard
for almost a year.
555
00:28:06,289 --> 00:28:07,999
There were
multiple opportunities.
556
00:28:07,999 --> 00:28:09,167
Law enforcement could
have interdicted here and
557
00:28:09,167 --> 00:28:11,044
probably saved
her son's life.
558
00:28:11,044 --> 00:28:13,546
He never has to even
meet these people.
559
00:28:13,546 --> 00:28:16,049
Adding insult to injury,
the crime that took
560
00:28:16,049 --> 00:28:17,592
her son's life was
all but dismissed
561
00:28:17,592 --> 00:28:19,260
by the justice system.
I mean, look at it:
562
00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:21,638
Rizzi was given 16
months' time served.
563
00:28:21,638 --> 00:28:23,932
Pazuzu was let
loose on probation.
564
00:28:23,932 --> 00:28:25,767
I'd like to meet with
Ms. Chandler to find out
565
00:28:25,767 --> 00:28:27,852
why she thinks that she
and her son were
566
00:28:27,852 --> 00:28:30,271
so easily dismissed
by the system.
567
00:28:30,271 --> 00:28:31,940
And when I called
and I said,
568
00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:35,944
"Look, my son is 30
years old, and he... he's...
569
00:28:35,944 --> 00:28:38,154
He went out last night
and he didn't come back."
570
00:28:38,154 --> 00:28:40,073
They told me to
look in the ditch.
571
00:28:40,073 --> 00:28:43,493
I told them I'm going out
there to look for my son,
572
00:28:43,493 --> 00:28:46,329
and they told me, you know,
to go look in the ditch.
573
00:28:46,329 --> 00:28:47,956
And it's like...
574
00:28:47,956 --> 00:28:50,333
He's just another
dead one gone;
575
00:28:50,333 --> 00:28:52,126
that's the way I see it.
576
00:28:52,126 --> 00:28:54,128
And when you say,
"dead one"?
577
00:28:54,128 --> 00:28:58,383
Another dead black one gone.
(laughs)
578
00:28:58,383 --> 00:29:01,219
It was about 12:30 when
they came down the hill
579
00:29:01,219 --> 00:29:03,763
in their little black car.
(laughs)
580
00:29:03,763 --> 00:29:07,100
And they said, "Ms. Chandler,
we found your son,"
581
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,811
you know, and I just...
582
00:29:09,811 --> 00:29:11,437
Fell down on the floor.
583
00:29:11,437 --> 00:29:13,606
♪
584
00:29:13,606 --> 00:29:16,109
I got in here and I
screamed and I cried,
585
00:29:16,109 --> 00:29:17,652
and I just threw
myself in the shower,
586
00:29:17,652 --> 00:29:19,696
said, "Lord,
you gotta help me.
587
00:29:19,696 --> 00:29:22,532
Humble me. Take the
hate out of my heart."
588
00:29:22,532 --> 00:29:24,867
I wanted to kill the
people that hurt my son.
589
00:29:24,867 --> 00:29:27,328
And it took me almost...
590
00:29:27,328 --> 00:29:30,540
5, 6 years to be
where I'm at right now.
591
00:29:30,540 --> 00:29:33,042
How did law enforcement,
and then,
592
00:29:33,042 --> 00:29:35,003
even the DA's office and
folks treat you
593
00:29:35,003 --> 00:29:37,338
up through the trial,
the arrest and all that?
594
00:29:37,338 --> 00:29:38,840
They were always,
595
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,049
"We'll call you when we're
gonna have the trial."
596
00:29:40,049 --> 00:29:42,010
That's all I ever heard.
597
00:29:42,010 --> 00:29:45,054
I'm still lost in the dark
about a whole lot of stuff.
598
00:29:45,054 --> 00:29:46,389
Have you ever seen
the search warrants?
599
00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:48,433
Do you mind if I show you?
600
00:29:48,433 --> 00:29:55,189
♪
601
00:29:55,189 --> 00:29:56,858
I'm having a
little panic attack.
602
00:29:56,858 --> 00:30:01,320
When my heart starts
pumping real hard...
603
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,905
it's hard to breathe.
604
00:30:02,905 --> 00:30:04,907
So, the more
you keep talking,
605
00:30:04,907 --> 00:30:08,411
it just hash up a lot of
stuff and it's like...
606
00:30:08,411 --> 00:30:12,832
(sighs)
607
00:30:12,832 --> 00:30:16,502
I knew it was a lot of
wrongdoings everywhere.
608
00:30:16,502 --> 00:30:19,881
I just couldn't pinpoint;
I had nobody to help me.
609
00:30:19,881 --> 00:30:21,466
I had no voice.
610
00:30:21,466 --> 00:30:25,094
So, who killed Joseph?
Him or Nicholas?
611
00:30:25,094 --> 00:30:26,721
I don't know.
612
00:30:26,721 --> 00:30:28,222
And the judge, one of the
quotes from the judge is,
613
00:30:28,222 --> 00:30:29,724
"Why in the middle of
the night would you be out
614
00:30:29,724 --> 00:30:31,559
target practicing or
messing with a rifle?
615
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:33,144
It's still a mystery to me."
616
00:30:33,144 --> 00:30:36,564
It wasn't a mystery
when you take a black...
617
00:30:36,564 --> 00:30:41,194
man at, out to Yadkin River.
618
00:30:41,194 --> 00:30:43,821
You don't know him,
he don't know you;
619
00:30:43,821 --> 00:30:46,657
that wasn't a target
practice for the water.
620
00:30:46,657 --> 00:30:49,577
That was a target
practice for my son.
621
00:30:49,577 --> 00:30:52,455
As a young boy growing up,
he didn't fit in.
622
00:30:52,455 --> 00:30:56,167
Children was always hitting
him and calling him names,
623
00:30:56,167 --> 00:30:57,877
and he just
felt out of place;
624
00:30:57,877 --> 00:30:59,796
that's what his
whole life was about.
625
00:30:59,796 --> 00:31:01,881
Somebody was
always jumping on him,
626
00:31:01,881 --> 00:31:04,842
so when he became a teenager
he met other people and,
627
00:31:04,842 --> 00:31:07,553
you know, then
the bad boys came.
628
00:31:07,553 --> 00:31:15,186
♪
629
00:31:15,186 --> 00:31:17,313
My son was 30 years old.
630
00:31:17,313 --> 00:31:20,399
I saw great potential and
I saw him going places.
631
00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:22,235
He joined culinary school.
632
00:31:22,235 --> 00:31:25,738
He was trying to get
his life together.
633
00:31:25,738 --> 00:31:27,532
One of the things that kind
of keeps coming back to me
634
00:31:27,532 --> 00:31:30,660
with this is the
notion of parenthood.
635
00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:32,787
And as, during this whole
process my children have
636
00:31:32,787 --> 00:31:34,956
gotten older, and I'm
starting to go through
637
00:31:34,956 --> 00:31:37,750
stuff with my kids.
You feel...
638
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:40,336
one of them, you know,
just kind of slipping away and
639
00:31:40,336 --> 00:31:42,672
hanging out, doing with
people you shouldn't be
640
00:31:42,672 --> 00:31:44,423
hanging out with, the same
kind of people that ended up
641
00:31:44,423 --> 00:31:48,136
over there at Knob Hill,
at Pazuzu's house.
642
00:31:48,136 --> 00:31:49,887
My son's headed right there.
643
00:31:49,887 --> 00:31:53,891
I feel you. My heart is
going out to you.
644
00:31:53,891 --> 00:31:56,018
I really don't know
what to say right now,
645
00:31:56,018 --> 00:31:59,564
is that you gotta be strong.
Spend more time with him.
646
00:31:59,564 --> 00:32:01,649
Yeah.
647
00:32:01,649 --> 00:32:04,443
Do more father and son
things with your son.
648
00:32:04,443 --> 00:32:08,865
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you.
649
00:32:08,865 --> 00:32:11,909
Okay. You're welcome.
You're gonna be fine.
650
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:15,037
‐ Thanks for the time.
‐ You're gonna be fine.
651
00:32:15,037 --> 00:32:17,665
You're gonna be fine.
You take control.
652
00:32:17,665 --> 00:32:19,917
Don't feed into the
people out there.
653
00:32:19,917 --> 00:32:22,670
I won't. And, please take
care of yourself.
654
00:32:22,670 --> 00:32:24,922
Oh, I'm doing that.
But you're gonna be fine.
655
00:32:24,922 --> 00:32:28,342
Take hold of your son, honey.
I wish I had one more.
656
00:32:28,342 --> 00:32:38,477
♪
657
00:32:38,477 --> 00:32:40,396
I used to fantasize about,
like, you know,
658
00:32:40,396 --> 00:32:42,273
getting a crew together
with guns and
659
00:32:42,273 --> 00:32:45,067
going over and
killing Pazuzu ourselves.
660
00:32:45,067 --> 00:32:46,485
You could have
saved two lives.
661
00:32:46,485 --> 00:32:53,951
I've always been a coward.
662
00:32:53,951 --> 00:32:57,413
♪
663
00:32:57,413 --> 00:33:00,416
In a lot of ways,
when I got locked up, um...
664
00:33:00,416 --> 00:33:01,959
It was a relief.
665
00:33:01,959 --> 00:33:05,421
I needed to be locked up,
honestly, to get clean.
666
00:33:05,421 --> 00:33:14,764
♪
667
00:33:14,764 --> 00:33:18,309
I got out of prison.
I've been clean 6 months.
668
00:33:18,309 --> 00:33:20,561
On and off heroin
for nine years.
669
00:33:20,561 --> 00:33:21,604
♪
670
00:33:25,816 --> 00:33:28,319
I've been busy as hell,
ah...
671
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,239
Just, you know,
going to doctors,
672
00:33:31,239 --> 00:33:36,452
psychiatrists, substance
abuse group meetings.
673
00:33:36,452 --> 00:33:40,206
The one major goal that I really
have is just being a father.
674
00:33:40,206 --> 00:33:45,127
♪
675
00:33:45,127 --> 00:33:48,673
I want to be a good father.
676
00:33:48,673 --> 00:33:50,424
When they told me
I was pregnant,
677
00:33:50,424 --> 00:33:55,805
I kind of went through like
a 3 or 4‐day shock where
678
00:33:55,805 --> 00:33:58,975
I realized, like, wow, yeah,
I'm really gonna have to
679
00:33:58,975 --> 00:34:02,270
give this up, and not just give
it up for like a little while.
680
00:34:02,270 --> 00:34:04,563
I have to give it up for
like the rest of my life.
681
00:34:04,563 --> 00:34:06,774
♪
682
00:34:06,774 --> 00:34:09,443
I don't know, my, my
feelings towards Jenna
683
00:34:09,443 --> 00:34:14,657
are complicated.
I still love her deeply.
684
00:34:14,657 --> 00:34:18,619
Me and Nate are
still in love.
685
00:34:18,619 --> 00:34:20,579
It's just complicated.
686
00:34:20,579 --> 00:34:22,540
♪
687
00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:26,294
We're going to see if maybe
we can become a family,
688
00:34:26,294 --> 00:34:30,464
like, an actual
like living together,
689
00:34:30,464 --> 00:34:34,051
mommy, daddy, baby family.
690
00:34:34,051 --> 00:34:36,929
Or, if we're gonna have to
be an alternative family and
691
00:34:36,929 --> 00:34:40,349
maybe live separately
and co‐parent.
692
00:34:40,349 --> 00:34:43,853
♪
693
00:34:43,853 --> 00:34:46,647
Okay, so, your due
date is January 1st,
694
00:34:46,647 --> 00:34:50,276
which makes you 30 weeks
and 6 days today, okay.
695
00:34:50,276 --> 00:34:52,153
All right, you see that
little flutter right there?
696
00:34:52,153 --> 00:34:54,655
‐ Mhm.
‐ That's baby's heartbeat.
697
00:34:54,655 --> 00:35:00,411
(heartbeat)
698
00:35:00,411 --> 00:35:03,581
He's awake.
699
00:35:03,581 --> 00:35:05,041
All right, I'm just gonna
jiggle him up, okay.
700
00:35:05,041 --> 00:35:06,626
(laughs)
701
00:35:06,626 --> 00:35:09,837
When you press on him
does he usually move?
702
00:35:09,837 --> 00:35:13,090
Ah, yeah. Or jiggle him
around, or... (laughs)
703
00:35:13,090 --> 00:35:14,342
We're gonna have
to get him to move, okay.
704
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,564
JANET: From your medicine...
705
00:35:32,777 --> 00:35:34,570
I feel guilty.
706
00:35:34,570 --> 00:35:38,366
I take Subutex now,
which is a
707
00:35:38,366 --> 00:35:41,118
mono‐ingredient,
shall we say,
708
00:35:41,118 --> 00:35:46,499
of Suboxone, ah,
for pregnant women.
709
00:35:46,499 --> 00:35:50,586
It's just missing the
ingredient that harms a fetus.
710
00:35:50,586 --> 00:35:56,133
Unfortunately, the baby will‐‐
Well, it's highly possible
711
00:35:56,133 --> 00:35:59,136
that the baby will go
through withdrawals.
712
00:35:59,136 --> 00:36:04,809
A lot of babies are able to
come out and be detoxed and
713
00:36:04,809 --> 00:36:08,104
not really go through
anything very harsh
714
00:36:08,104 --> 00:36:10,564
except for maybe some shaking.
715
00:36:10,564 --> 00:36:12,149
I don't know if
I believe this,
716
00:36:12,149 --> 00:36:13,651
but I kind of
have to believe it,
717
00:36:13,651 --> 00:36:17,571
is it's probably not
going to be that bad.
718
00:36:17,571 --> 00:36:29,709
♪
719
00:36:29,709 --> 00:36:31,669
In the search warrants,
it mentions Nate Anderson,
720
00:36:31,669 --> 00:36:32,878
that he was hanging around
the house at the
721
00:36:32,878 --> 00:36:34,422
time of these murders.
722
00:36:34,422 --> 00:36:36,215
But they also say that he
claims he wasn't aware of
723
00:36:36,215 --> 00:36:38,008
what was going
on around him.
724
00:36:38,008 --> 00:36:39,593
Now consider all the rumors
that were flying around at
725
00:36:39,593 --> 00:36:42,888
the time and that he was
part of Pazuzu's inner circle...
726
00:36:42,888 --> 00:36:45,057
I gotta be honest with you,
I find that hard to believe.
727
00:36:45,057 --> 00:36:48,561
♪
728
00:36:48,561 --> 00:36:50,896
I don't think I wanted to
know what they were doing.
729
00:36:50,896 --> 00:36:54,358
I do remember there was
one point where
730
00:36:54,358 --> 00:36:56,736
I used to fantasize about,
like, you know,
731
00:36:56,736 --> 00:36:59,280
getting a crew together
with guns and going over and
732
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,907
killing Pazuzu
ourselves and I‐‐
733
00:37:01,907 --> 00:37:03,492
You could have saved two lives.
734
00:37:03,492 --> 00:37:05,536
(sighs)
735
00:37:05,536 --> 00:37:06,620
I mean, 'cause
let me tell you,
736
00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:10,916
Matt Flowers went to ‐
in person ‐
737
00:37:10,916 --> 00:37:12,042
Forsyth County
Sheriff's Department...
738
00:37:12,042 --> 00:37:13,502
Yeah.
739
00:37:13,502 --> 00:37:15,045
What's different between
you and Matt Flowers?
740
00:37:15,045 --> 00:37:16,505
What makes you
guys different guys?
741
00:37:16,505 --> 00:37:20,968
You're kind of raised in
the same kind of place.
742
00:37:20,968 --> 00:37:23,846
I've always been a coward.
743
00:37:23,846 --> 00:37:26,098
You know, that maybe
I could have helped,
744
00:37:26,098 --> 00:37:31,395
you know, avert
another life being taken.
745
00:37:31,395 --> 00:37:33,314
So, does the story matter?
746
00:37:33,314 --> 00:37:34,982
Is it something that needs
to be forgotten and
747
00:37:34,982 --> 00:37:37,568
let's just all move on, or is it
something we need to ‐
748
00:37:37,568 --> 00:37:38,819
maybe not dwell on ‐
but we need to,
749
00:37:38,819 --> 00:37:40,154
we need to face it,
deal with it,
750
00:37:40,154 --> 00:37:42,281
and understand it?
751
00:37:42,281 --> 00:37:46,035
Anything that gets swept
under the rug is still there.
752
00:37:46,035 --> 00:37:49,997
I always need to keep that
darkness in the rearview mirror,
753
00:37:49,997 --> 00:37:53,709
so I can look and
remind myself that it's there
754
00:37:53,709 --> 00:37:58,005
and that it's, you know, I'm,
I'm still only one choice away
755
00:37:58,005 --> 00:38:00,341
from reverting right back there.
756
00:38:00,341 --> 00:38:04,845
♪
757
00:38:04,845 --> 00:38:06,180
And I told the detective,
"If you guys don't do
758
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:07,723
anything about it,
I'm gonna kill Pazuzu."
759
00:38:07,723 --> 00:38:08,724
He's like, "I'll be right back,"
and then he came back
760
00:38:08,724 --> 00:38:14,688
with a really big file.
761
00:38:14,688 --> 00:38:19,109
♪
762
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:20,653
Maybe the most disturbing
thing that the
763
00:38:20,653 --> 00:38:22,947
search warrants show ‐
in my opinion ‐
764
00:38:22,947 --> 00:38:25,032
is that time and again it seems
that people told the police
765
00:38:25,032 --> 00:38:27,409
what Pazuzu was doing, and
for one reason or another,
766
00:38:27,409 --> 00:38:30,412
they didn't manage to
stop him for 5 years.
767
00:38:30,412 --> 00:38:31,872
It finally took his
own buddy, Matt Flowers,
768
00:38:31,872 --> 00:38:33,249
to get them to act.
769
00:38:33,249 --> 00:38:34,917
I mean, I'd love to
know what it was that
770
00:38:34,917 --> 00:38:36,961
Matt said to them that finally
lit a fire under 'em and
771
00:38:36,961 --> 00:38:38,712
got 'em to take real action.
772
00:38:38,712 --> 00:38:43,175
♪
773
00:38:43,175 --> 00:38:44,510
‐ Where you going to school?
‐ Forsyth Tech.
774
00:38:44,510 --> 00:38:45,594
Oh, right on.
775
00:38:45,594 --> 00:38:46,929
I got my associates
knocked out.
776
00:38:46,929 --> 00:38:49,014
And then I want to go to
Winston‐Salem State and
777
00:38:49,014 --> 00:38:50,182
get a Bachelor's.
778
00:38:50,182 --> 00:38:51,225
What do you want
to take over there?
779
00:38:51,225 --> 00:38:52,893
Criminal justice.
More than likely.
780
00:38:52,893 --> 00:38:54,103
What do you want to do
with criminal justice?
781
00:38:54,103 --> 00:38:55,896
‐ PI.
‐ Right on.
782
00:38:55,896 --> 00:38:57,147
Yeah, that'd be cool.
783
00:38:57,147 --> 00:38:58,816
The time you were
interviewed down at the
784
00:38:58,816 --> 00:39:01,652
Sheriff's Office,
how were you treated then?
785
00:39:01,652 --> 00:39:02,987
‐ How did they...
‐ They treated me well.
786
00:39:02,987 --> 00:39:04,154
Did they seem to be
taking you seriously?
787
00:39:04,154 --> 00:39:06,240
Oh, yeah. I mean,
'cause I went in there
788
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,242
with a really serious
attitude also, you know.
789
00:39:08,242 --> 00:39:09,827
Yeah, and told 'em.
790
00:39:09,827 --> 00:39:11,370
I didn't feel like
they were doing anything.
791
00:39:11,370 --> 00:39:12,705
I didn't feel like
they were doing shit.
792
00:39:12,705 --> 00:39:14,164
Did you challenge the
officer and ask him‐‐
793
00:39:14,164 --> 00:39:15,833
I did, totally did.
I was taking‐‐
794
00:39:15,833 --> 00:39:17,251
I was going to take it
into my own hands
795
00:39:17,251 --> 00:39:19,461
and really,
really do something.
796
00:39:19,461 --> 00:39:22,047
And I told the detective
you know, everything,
797
00:39:22,047 --> 00:39:24,174
I was like, "Here's the house.
Here's the yard.
798
00:39:24,174 --> 00:39:27,386
Here's the pool. That's where
I believe the body's at."
799
00:39:27,386 --> 00:39:28,637
I was like, "If you guys
don't do anything about it,
800
00:39:28,637 --> 00:39:31,098
I'm gonna kill Pazuzu."
801
00:39:31,098 --> 00:39:32,808
Three days later they had,
they had‐‐
802
00:39:32,808 --> 00:39:34,476
‐ It's over.
‐ It was completely over.
803
00:39:34,476 --> 00:39:36,896
I think it's how serious
I was about it.
804
00:39:36,896 --> 00:39:38,439
‐ Really?
‐ Yeah.
805
00:39:38,439 --> 00:39:39,815
I even told 'em, I was like,
"If I go do this,
806
00:39:39,815 --> 00:39:42,776
I'll come back here and
I'll, I'll turn myself in,
807
00:39:42,776 --> 00:39:44,820
but I want you to know
that this has happened,"
808
00:39:44,820 --> 00:39:46,280
you know what I mean?
809
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,198
I can believe you'd do it.
I can believe you have
810
00:39:48,198 --> 00:39:50,075
enough sense of
right and wrong to do it,
811
00:39:50,075 --> 00:39:52,578
but should it be
that's what it takes?
812
00:39:52,578 --> 00:39:55,039
Law enforcement could have
done more than what they did.
813
00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:57,291
100%.
814
00:39:57,291 --> 00:39:59,835
You're the guy who steps
out and does something.
815
00:39:59,835 --> 00:40:02,004
Is this a matter of,
you know, heroism?
816
00:40:02,004 --> 00:40:03,464
Because you stepped
forward and, you know,
817
00:40:03,464 --> 00:40:05,925
put the finger‐‐
Put your name to it.
818
00:40:05,925 --> 00:40:08,052
Yeah, but I try to keep that‐‐
819
00:40:08,052 --> 00:40:11,722
I don't really like the name
hero, you know what I mean.
820
00:40:11,722 --> 00:40:13,098
I feel like I'd be a
bad person if I didn't
821
00:40:13,098 --> 00:40:14,850
do something about it.
822
00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:16,518
I just didn't want
anyone else getting hurt;
823
00:40:16,518 --> 00:40:18,312
that's pretty much
what it boils down to.
824
00:40:18,312 --> 00:40:32,242
♪
825
00:40:32,242 --> 00:40:34,203
One of the things that I
found out sort of reading
826
00:40:34,203 --> 00:40:37,247
the search warrant was
that Matt Flowers
827
00:40:37,247 --> 00:40:40,042
was the reason why they ‐
828
00:40:40,042 --> 00:40:41,919
Josh and Tommy ‐
were found.
829
00:40:41,919 --> 00:40:47,299
I think that we can take this
as a learning opportunity.
830
00:40:47,299 --> 00:40:52,680
He is really the hero of
the story in so many ways.
831
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,058
So, I got a tattoo of
St. Michael slaying Lucifer.
832
00:40:56,058 --> 00:40:58,519
We did this
when Pazuzu, like,
833
00:40:58,519 --> 00:40:59,937
pretty much went down.
834
00:40:59,937 --> 00:41:01,397
We're gonna put
the death date,
835
00:41:01,397 --> 00:41:05,442
when he passed away,
which is October 28, 2015.
836
00:41:05,442 --> 00:41:11,240
(tattoo machine buzzing)
837
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:13,033
All right, man,
check it out.
838
00:41:13,033 --> 00:41:16,120
Fuck yeah.
Hardcore.
839
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:26,005
♪
840
00:41:28,549 --> 00:41:30,801
(laughs)
841
00:41:30,801 --> 00:41:33,012
I don't want Josh's
death to be in vain.
842
00:41:33,012 --> 00:41:35,389
I want something
to come out of it.
843
00:41:35,389 --> 00:41:39,184
I'm cofounding a non‐profit
called Happy Roots
844
00:41:39,184 --> 00:41:44,314
with a goal to reach out to
at‐risk youth and
845
00:41:44,314 --> 00:41:46,775
people in the community
that need help.
846
00:41:46,775 --> 00:41:50,571
All kids in costumes,
please come on down.
847
00:41:54,867 --> 00:41:56,869
So, you can look at the
story and you can say,
848
00:41:56,869 --> 00:41:59,163
"Well, the government
failed or society failed,"
849
00:41:59,163 --> 00:42:02,291
but that's
not really helpful.
850
00:42:02,291 --> 00:42:07,004
The solution to this is
in community efforts,
851
00:42:07,004 --> 00:42:11,091
building community and
creating opportunities,
852
00:42:11,091 --> 00:42:13,886
and making sure that the
individuals that are
853
00:42:13,886 --> 00:42:16,305
falling through the
cracks, don't.
854
00:42:16,305 --> 00:42:20,184
♪
855
00:42:20,184 --> 00:42:27,274
♪ (birds chirping) ♪
856
00:42:27,274 --> 00:42:29,777
Oh!
857
00:42:29,777 --> 00:42:31,487
♪
858
00:42:31,487 --> 00:42:35,365
(dog barking)
859
00:42:35,365 --> 00:42:37,367
Hi.
860
00:42:37,367 --> 00:42:39,495
Good boy.
Good boy.
861
00:42:39,495 --> 00:42:41,914
(laughs)
862
00:42:41,914 --> 00:42:53,967
♪
863
00:42:53,967 --> 00:42:58,138
(typing)
864
00:42:58,138 --> 00:43:08,941
♪
865
00:43:08,941 --> 00:43:11,276
(typing)
866
00:43:11,276 --> 00:43:14,029
So what's the ending here?
867
00:43:14,029 --> 00:43:16,156
Old Pazuzu is dead and
he took Josh Wetzler,
868
00:43:16,156 --> 00:43:19,409
Tommy Dean Welch, and
Joseph Chandler with him.
869
00:43:19,409 --> 00:43:21,787
End of the day,
it was no big conspiracy,
870
00:43:21,787 --> 00:43:24,581
no demonic evil to blame.
871
00:43:24,581 --> 00:43:26,792
Just broken people slipping
through the cracks of a
872
00:43:26,792 --> 00:43:30,504
broken system in
anytown America,
873
00:43:30,504 --> 00:43:32,214
but that's our America.
874
00:43:32,214 --> 00:43:34,049
Those cracks are in
our sidewalk and
875
00:43:34,049 --> 00:43:36,218
it's our job to fix 'em.
876
00:43:36,218 --> 00:43:40,556
♪
877
00:43:40,556 --> 00:43:45,894
The dead are gone, but those
of us who are still around...
878
00:43:45,894 --> 00:43:48,021
We got work to do.
879
00:43:48,021 --> 00:44:00,826
♪
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