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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,023 --> 00:00:04,567 Pazuzu Algarad and a woman who calls herself his wife, 2 00:00:04,567 --> 00:00:07,779 Amber Burch, are both now charged with murder. 3 00:00:07,779 --> 00:00:09,280 The doctor actually diagnosed him with 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,074 Schizotypal Personality Disorder; 5 00:00:11,074 --> 00:00:12,867 the guy is clinically psychotic. 6 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:16,287 At some point he had used something to sharpen his teeth. 7 00:00:16,287 --> 00:00:18,081 I just wanted to get away from the drugs and 8 00:00:18,081 --> 00:00:19,791 get away from Pazuzu. 9 00:00:19,791 --> 00:00:21,626 Right when I got back from my deployment, 10 00:00:21,626 --> 00:00:23,378 I went to the police. 11 00:00:23,378 --> 00:00:25,922 ♪ 12 00:00:25,922 --> 00:00:27,715 Heroin really was always an escape, 13 00:00:27,715 --> 00:00:30,677 but it quickly becomes a requirement. 14 00:00:30,677 --> 00:00:32,470 It's all encompassing. 15 00:00:32,470 --> 00:00:35,139 A pair of bodies were found buried in a backyard 16 00:00:35,139 --> 00:00:37,225 of a Clemmons home. 17 00:00:37,225 --> 00:00:40,853 A lot of questions were created from that 18 00:00:40,853 --> 00:00:42,689 rather than answered. 19 00:00:42,689 --> 00:00:52,657 ♪ 20 00:00:52,657 --> 00:01:01,916 ♪ 21 00:01:04,877 --> 00:01:16,723 ♪ 22 00:01:16,723 --> 00:01:18,516 Well, it's a story from right here in the Piedmont 23 00:01:18,516 --> 00:01:20,685 that's actually making headlines around the world. 24 00:01:20,685 --> 00:01:22,937 Tonight at 10 o'clock, Channel 9 just obtained 25 00:01:22,937 --> 00:01:26,107 this video shot inside the home of an accused 26 00:01:26,107 --> 00:01:28,651 devil worshiper charged with the murder of 27 00:01:28,651 --> 00:01:31,112 a father with ties to Salisbury. 28 00:01:31,112 --> 00:01:33,406 Investigators say Pazuzu Algarad killed 29 00:01:33,406 --> 00:01:37,160 Joshua Wetzler and then buried him in his backyard. 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,204 For years, neighbors say Pazuzu Algarad transformed a 31 00:01:40,204 --> 00:01:42,915 nice home on Knob Hill Drive in Clemmons into 32 00:01:42,915 --> 00:01:45,376 a domain for the devil. 33 00:01:45,376 --> 00:01:49,172 The pure evil that was within him was able to 34 00:01:49,172 --> 00:01:52,425 thrive in that environment. 35 00:01:52,425 --> 00:01:55,803 Pazuzu Algarad took part in Satanic rituals. 36 00:01:55,803 --> 00:01:58,514 Algarad's tongue was split, like a snake, 37 00:01:58,514 --> 00:02:02,268 moving in different directions, licking his own face. 38 00:02:02,268 --> 00:02:05,021 He picked up two prostitutes at two separate locations 39 00:02:05,021 --> 00:02:07,857 before he killed and ate them. 40 00:02:07,857 --> 00:02:12,320 And you can tell when his demons 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,449 needed something from him because they took over. 42 00:02:16,449 --> 00:02:19,410 And here we have a man who worships the devil. 43 00:02:19,410 --> 00:02:21,913 He is anti‐Christ. 44 00:02:21,913 --> 00:02:30,713 ♪ 45 00:02:32,256 --> 00:02:34,884 Satan sells. 46 00:02:34,884 --> 00:02:37,303 It wasn't long before the rumor mill took up the charge: 47 00:02:37,303 --> 00:02:39,180 Pazuzu's tongue is split in two, 48 00:02:39,180 --> 00:02:41,391 his teeth are filed down to points, 49 00:02:41,391 --> 00:02:44,560 he ate the beating hearts of the rabbits he sacrificed... 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,270 But no one was really bothering to find out 51 00:02:46,270 --> 00:02:50,525 if any of this stuff is true, as if that didn't really matter. 52 00:02:50,525 --> 00:02:57,448 [Indistinct speaking] 53 00:02:57,448 --> 00:02:59,492 I don't usually do that. I'll tell you. 54 00:02:59,492 --> 00:03:02,328 You can, and it'll loosen. Yeah, yeah. 55 00:03:02,328 --> 00:03:04,539 No, whack it. Commit, commit. 56 00:03:04,539 --> 00:03:06,749 Feel it. Very good. 57 00:03:06,749 --> 00:03:08,793 It's about the same size as that kid's penis that 58 00:03:08,793 --> 00:03:09,919 sent you the pictures. 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,505 ‐ Whoa! ‐ It's like the same size... 60 00:03:12,505 --> 00:03:15,925 Yeah. Pretend it's that. 61 00:03:15,925 --> 00:03:18,094 It's a whole lot easier to look at Pazuzu and 62 00:03:18,094 --> 00:03:20,263 his jacked‐up face, and all his stuff, 63 00:03:20,263 --> 00:03:21,723 and his sharpened teeth, and go, 64 00:03:21,723 --> 00:03:24,892 "Wow, that's not me. That's not my kid." 65 00:03:24,892 --> 00:03:27,603 That's an interesting salad y'all have created there. 66 00:03:27,603 --> 00:03:28,980 It's a whole lot harder to look in the mirror and then 67 00:03:28,980 --> 00:03:30,189 look over at your kid and go, 68 00:03:30,189 --> 00:03:33,151 "Could my kid go that way? 69 00:03:33,151 --> 00:03:34,986 What am I doing to my kid that could possibly create 70 00:03:34,986 --> 00:03:36,863 another John Lawson?" 71 00:03:36,863 --> 00:03:40,158 ♪ 72 00:03:40,158 --> 00:03:42,535 We started writing a six, seven‐thousand‐word piece, 73 00:03:42,535 --> 00:03:46,289 and it was a profile. I was trying to get personal. 74 00:03:46,289 --> 00:03:49,584 Background matters and every second of John Lawson's life 75 00:03:49,584 --> 00:03:52,503 led up to the moment that the police find bodies 76 00:03:52,503 --> 00:03:54,130 in his backyard. 77 00:03:54,130 --> 00:03:56,382 ♪ 78 00:03:56,382 --> 00:03:58,801 There's not really too much that we know yet because, 79 00:03:58,801 --> 00:04:00,219 I mean, a lot of the people close to Pazuzu 80 00:04:00,219 --> 00:04:02,263 were afraid to talk. 81 00:04:02,263 --> 00:04:05,475 ♪ 82 00:04:05,475 --> 00:04:07,602 Here's what we do know. 83 00:04:07,602 --> 00:04:10,146 He was born in California to young parents. 84 00:04:10,146 --> 00:04:12,440 These young parents don't really get along all that great, 85 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,943 they're bouncing back between California, North Carolina. 86 00:04:15,943 --> 00:04:17,987 And finally, mom and dad split. 87 00:04:17,987 --> 00:04:19,906 Then, when John's about five, 88 00:04:19,906 --> 00:04:22,575 he ends up in Clemmons with his mom, Cynthia, 89 00:04:22,575 --> 00:04:25,578 who takes on the job of raising him on her own. 90 00:04:25,578 --> 00:04:28,873 (birds chirping) 91 00:04:28,873 --> 00:04:34,837 (clock ticking) 92 00:04:34,837 --> 00:04:37,673 He was very, very sad. He was a very sad kid. 93 00:04:37,673 --> 00:04:41,093 (clock ticking) 94 00:04:41,093 --> 00:04:45,515 Cynthia, she was my best friend. 95 00:04:45,515 --> 00:04:48,142 And my son become very best friends with Johnny. 96 00:04:48,142 --> 00:04:54,482 ♪ 97 00:04:54,482 --> 00:04:57,610 He come Friday, Saturday, and Sunday he stay at the house. 98 00:04:57,610 --> 00:04:58,861 Six o'clock in the morning, there he is, 99 00:04:58,861 --> 00:05:01,405 in the morning, you know. 100 00:05:01,405 --> 00:05:06,410 I love that little boy because to me he was very nice. 101 00:05:06,410 --> 00:05:08,120 He was a good kid. 102 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,914 You know, the thing that he does that he wants to be 103 00:05:09,914 --> 00:05:11,791 a vampire, you know, he was a vampire, 104 00:05:11,791 --> 00:05:13,751 in his mind, he was. 105 00:05:13,751 --> 00:05:15,378 ♪ 106 00:05:15,378 --> 00:05:17,880 When I met Johnny, he was weird. 107 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,050 He wore this big cape, black cape with his teeth. 108 00:05:21,050 --> 00:05:23,094 He was so little and so tiny, you know, 109 00:05:23,094 --> 00:05:26,347 he was very skinny. 110 00:05:26,347 --> 00:05:28,140 He loved the movies, like you know, 111 00:05:28,140 --> 00:05:30,977 he watches Jason, Freddy Krueger, 112 00:05:30,977 --> 00:05:35,439 the vampire movie. He was all those people. 113 00:05:35,439 --> 00:05:36,858 Sometimes he does things that were 114 00:05:36,858 --> 00:05:39,402 kind of out of place. 115 00:05:39,402 --> 00:05:42,822 ♪ 116 00:05:42,822 --> 00:05:46,325 When Johnny was probably eight years old, 117 00:05:46,325 --> 00:05:49,453 Johnny was very abusive, you know, of her. 118 00:05:49,453 --> 00:05:52,498 He hit her and stuff like that. 119 00:05:52,498 --> 00:05:56,502 So she put him in a mental hospital and me and her 120 00:05:56,502 --> 00:05:59,547 went to see Johnny, and my heart broke because I say, 121 00:05:59,547 --> 00:06:02,008 you know, that little boy, he didn't need to be there. 122 00:06:02,008 --> 00:06:04,385 The one that needs to be there is that woman, the mama. 123 00:06:04,385 --> 00:06:07,889 ♪ 124 00:06:07,889 --> 00:06:09,891 She drinks a lot, for one. 125 00:06:09,891 --> 00:06:11,642 And she goes with all these guys. I mean, 126 00:06:11,642 --> 00:06:15,104 she leave Johnny behind and there she goes. 127 00:06:15,104 --> 00:06:17,523 Johnny see all that stuff, and you know, 128 00:06:17,523 --> 00:06:19,150 the little kid, you know, get... 129 00:06:19,150 --> 00:06:22,987 in his mind, you know, like, "Why my mama do that?" 130 00:06:22,987 --> 00:06:26,949 Nobody knows what that little boy went through. 131 00:06:26,949 --> 00:06:29,452 When you get this bulldog and they're mean, 132 00:06:29,452 --> 00:06:31,245 what's the reason they're mean? Because you just hit him, 133 00:06:31,245 --> 00:06:33,831 hit him, the dog, so they have to be mean, too. 134 00:06:33,831 --> 00:06:35,499 It's sad. 135 00:06:35,499 --> 00:06:38,753 ♪ 136 00:06:38,753 --> 00:06:40,504 (dog growling) 137 00:06:40,504 --> 00:06:42,256 Me and Antoine lived together three times. 138 00:06:42,256 --> 00:06:43,799 (clears throat) 139 00:06:43,799 --> 00:06:45,927 So, I was kind of just going back to the start, really. 140 00:06:45,927 --> 00:06:52,141 ♪ 141 00:06:52,141 --> 00:06:54,435 We both see our ups and downs at different points, you know. 142 00:06:54,435 --> 00:06:57,146 Yeah... And, ah... 143 00:06:57,146 --> 00:06:59,357 I mean, these guys are more family to me than 144 00:06:59,357 --> 00:07:01,901 some of my actual family, really. 145 00:07:01,901 --> 00:07:07,865 Mhm. Most definitely. 146 00:07:07,865 --> 00:07:11,369 I'm Antoine Hardie, brother of Matt Flowers ‐ 147 00:07:11,369 --> 00:07:14,830 almost married his sister. Ah, have a kid with her. 148 00:07:14,830 --> 00:07:18,084 And, he and I go back like car seats. 149 00:07:18,084 --> 00:07:22,004 (Laughs) 150 00:07:22,004 --> 00:07:25,883 I feel like people take advantage of Matt and his, 151 00:07:25,883 --> 00:07:28,552 his idea of wanting to be a protector. 152 00:07:28,552 --> 00:07:32,390 I really honestly do. 153 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:34,975 Like I say, I've seen people call him up for, you know, 154 00:07:34,975 --> 00:07:38,354 shit that they've gotten themselves into and 155 00:07:38,354 --> 00:07:40,773 wanting him to have their back, and you know, 156 00:07:40,773 --> 00:07:43,234 put himself into a situation where he could get in trouble. 157 00:07:43,234 --> 00:07:45,152 ♪ 158 00:07:45,152 --> 00:07:48,322 Pazuzu being one of them. 159 00:07:48,322 --> 00:07:51,325 Pazuzu always talked about building a legion, and like, 160 00:07:51,325 --> 00:07:54,161 having this like army of ááááed up people and like, 161 00:07:54,161 --> 00:07:56,580 he tried to like push me and manipulate me into doing 162 00:07:56,580 --> 00:08:00,918 some ááááed up shit. He's like, "Yeah, ááááing do it. Do it." 163 00:08:00,918 --> 00:08:03,838 You know, I'm happy he's in prison. 164 00:08:03,838 --> 00:08:06,006 The things he did is unforgivable. 165 00:08:06,006 --> 00:08:11,387 ♪ 166 00:08:11,387 --> 00:08:12,763 The further I got into researching this 167 00:08:12,763 --> 00:08:14,598 kid's background, the more I realized how skilled 168 00:08:14,598 --> 00:08:20,146 he was at bringing other kids into whatever he was up to. 169 00:08:20,146 --> 00:08:23,733 He made everyone an accomplice. 170 00:08:23,733 --> 00:08:28,154 Pazuzu really liked that idea of a family killing people. 171 00:08:28,154 --> 00:08:31,115 ♪ 172 00:08:31,115 --> 00:08:35,703 I think he felt powerful in bringing in other parties, 173 00:08:35,703 --> 00:08:38,080 and I think he felt a certain sense of power by 174 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,918 stripping that last shred of innocence by involving them 175 00:08:42,918 --> 00:08:47,173 in something that sinister. 176 00:08:47,173 --> 00:08:50,551 I find it very odd that, yeah, I do, I do kind of miss him. 177 00:08:50,551 --> 00:08:55,389 ♪ 178 00:08:55,389 --> 00:08:57,600 Did Nate tell you about how he paid for... the floors? 179 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,145 ♪ 180 00:09:01,145 --> 00:09:04,690 I had really good credit from my mom paying off my student loan, 181 00:09:04,690 --> 00:09:07,985 so I took out a Lowe's credit line so I could 182 00:09:07,985 --> 00:09:12,656 buy hardware and go pawn it for cash to get drugs. 183 00:09:12,656 --> 00:09:16,452 And, Pazuzu and Amber came to me one day, saying, 184 00:09:16,452 --> 00:09:18,496 "We want to start cleaning up the house". 185 00:09:18,496 --> 00:09:20,581 So I was like, well, shit, I'll buy you guys 186 00:09:20,581 --> 00:09:22,333 some ááááing... some ááááing floor and 187 00:09:22,333 --> 00:09:24,794 we'll rip out the carpet and we'll put it in. 188 00:09:24,794 --> 00:09:26,962 Helped them install it and everything. 189 00:09:26,962 --> 00:09:30,216 And then, a few weeks later, that was when I first heard 190 00:09:30,216 --> 00:09:33,844 the rumors about the murders and I was like, 191 00:09:33,844 --> 00:09:39,558 "Ah..." (Laughs) Did, did... I just get... 192 00:09:39,558 --> 00:09:41,310 Producer: I mean, I guess you couldn't tell. 193 00:09:41,310 --> 00:09:45,439 No... But I, I think I just brought the flooring over. 194 00:09:45,439 --> 00:09:48,442 I think I came back later after they had ripped the carpet out. 195 00:09:48,442 --> 00:09:51,570 I don't think I was actually there to pull up the carpet. 196 00:09:54,907 --> 00:09:58,035 Yeah... Yeah. 197 00:09:58,035 --> 00:10:00,913 ♪ 198 00:10:00,913 --> 00:10:02,998 Every day, he drank at school. 199 00:10:02,998 --> 00:10:05,960 People called him turd boy. You know, "turd boy!" 200 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,379 He dropped out of school. 201 00:10:08,379 --> 00:10:10,548 He reemerged as a male witch, 202 00:10:10,548 --> 00:10:13,676 or self‐proclaimed male witch. 203 00:10:13,676 --> 00:10:15,886 ♪ 204 00:10:19,932 --> 00:10:24,478 ♪ 205 00:10:24,478 --> 00:10:26,480 As I'm writing about Pazuzu and doing all of this 206 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,941 research into his past, I'm coming up against 207 00:10:28,941 --> 00:10:30,442 a lot of dead ends. 208 00:10:30,442 --> 00:10:34,113 This is the south; things move at their own pace. 209 00:10:34,113 --> 00:10:37,158 But even so, this story's proving particularly difficult. 210 00:10:37,158 --> 00:10:40,703 The police aren't talking; the family's not talking. 211 00:10:40,703 --> 00:10:42,371 And, I mean, I'm drowning in rumors, 212 00:10:42,371 --> 00:10:45,666 but I'm still trying to get to the actual facts of the matter. 213 00:10:51,463 --> 00:10:55,885 West Forsyth yearbook, '93 to '95. 214 00:10:55,885 --> 00:10:57,178 Well, we can go... 215 00:10:57,178 --> 00:10:58,512 What are the odds of us actually finding that? 216 00:10:58,512 --> 00:11:00,973 I don't know; they're probably not very good. 217 00:11:00,973 --> 00:11:02,850 (Laughs) 218 00:11:02,850 --> 00:11:04,143 The deal is trying to figure out when this boy 219 00:11:04,143 --> 00:11:05,895 was in school because he kept failing, 220 00:11:05,895 --> 00:11:07,021 from what I understand. 221 00:11:07,021 --> 00:11:08,480 He was not exactly your model student. 222 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,317 Oh! Yeah, I had a lot of classmates like that‐‐ 223 00:11:11,317 --> 00:11:13,861 Oh, here he‐‐ Here he is. No, I reckon‐‐ 224 00:11:13,861 --> 00:11:18,407 Put all the tattoos on his face; that's the same joker. 225 00:11:18,407 --> 00:11:21,785 All right, so, now it's set up for a quick scan and 226 00:11:21,785 --> 00:11:24,705 we just click and watch what happens. 227 00:11:24,705 --> 00:11:27,833 (machine whistling) 228 00:11:27,833 --> 00:11:30,169 ‐ I love that little sound... ‐ (Chad laughs) 229 00:11:30,169 --> 00:11:33,547 ...that it makes. And here's our boy. 230 00:11:33,547 --> 00:11:36,884 There he is, John Lawson. Isn't he cute? 231 00:11:36,884 --> 00:11:38,594 Now, this is another yearbook. 232 00:11:38,594 --> 00:11:40,930 Now, he's kind of in the same class. 233 00:11:40,930 --> 00:11:43,390 He's still a freshman this year. Not a lot of... 234 00:11:43,390 --> 00:11:46,477 I knew people who were in sixth grade for three years. 235 00:11:46,477 --> 00:11:48,312 Not a lot of who were moving on to a career. 236 00:11:48,312 --> 00:11:51,982 Woo... 237 00:11:51,982 --> 00:11:54,985 John Lawson, year two, same grade. 238 00:11:54,985 --> 00:11:56,695 Looks like somebody like popped him between the eyes 239 00:11:56,695 --> 00:11:58,572 with a ball‐peen hammer right before they took the photo. 240 00:11:58,572 --> 00:12:00,532 ‐ It does. ‐ He looks stoned. 241 00:12:00,532 --> 00:12:03,202 I guess, this is year two, freshman year. 242 00:12:03,202 --> 00:12:04,411 Let's get started, yes. 243 00:12:04,411 --> 00:12:06,622 All right, we'll save that one. 244 00:12:06,622 --> 00:12:09,583 What people have globbed onto is the simplistic story: 245 00:12:09,583 --> 00:12:12,336 This is a guy who is dealing with the dark arts. 246 00:12:12,336 --> 00:12:14,588 He was dealing in the darkest depths of‐‐ 247 00:12:14,588 --> 00:12:16,215 You know, and then, and he murdered people. 248 00:12:16,215 --> 00:12:18,050 And now we understand it because we can get 249 00:12:18,050 --> 00:12:19,551 our head around it, and what you miss 250 00:12:19,551 --> 00:12:21,553 are the people and the human beings. 251 00:12:21,553 --> 00:12:24,807 ♪ 252 00:12:24,807 --> 00:12:26,558 He was a nice kid. 253 00:12:26,558 --> 00:12:30,062 ♪ 254 00:12:30,062 --> 00:12:32,690 Every once in a while I'd give him a ride home from school. 255 00:12:32,690 --> 00:12:34,441 ♪ 256 00:12:34,441 --> 00:12:37,236 My name is Stephanie Seidel. 257 00:12:37,236 --> 00:12:40,447 I actually live three houses down 258 00:12:40,447 --> 00:12:45,828 across the street from Pazuzu. 259 00:12:45,828 --> 00:12:47,663 People called him turd boy and they would, 260 00:12:47,663 --> 00:12:50,749 you know, (mocking tone) "Turd boy!" 261 00:12:50,749 --> 00:12:54,586 I could see it in his face how upsetting it was. 262 00:12:54,586 --> 00:12:57,673 ♪ 263 00:12:57,673 --> 00:13:02,636 I don't know why, but he smelled like human excrement. 264 00:13:02,636 --> 00:13:04,972 ♪ 265 00:13:04,972 --> 00:13:07,933 He was an 18‐year‐old freshman, yeah. 266 00:13:07,933 --> 00:13:10,978 Every day he drank at school. 267 00:13:10,978 --> 00:13:16,942 The teachers just turned a blind eye. 268 00:13:16,942 --> 00:13:21,238 My name's Aaron. I was a classmate of John ‐ 269 00:13:21,238 --> 00:13:25,617 Pazuzu ‐ whatever you want to call him. 270 00:13:25,617 --> 00:13:30,539 I showed him some things, a few guitar lessons. 271 00:13:30,539 --> 00:13:35,586 He dropped out of school. When he reemerged, 272 00:13:35,586 --> 00:13:41,008 he reemerged as a male witch, or self‐proclaimed male witch. 273 00:13:41,008 --> 00:13:45,471 ♪ 274 00:13:45,471 --> 00:13:47,264 I think that whatever irked someone is 275 00:13:47,264 --> 00:13:49,475 what he wanted to be. 276 00:13:49,475 --> 00:13:52,770 ♪ 277 00:13:52,770 --> 00:13:55,105 He wanted to be the bad guy. 278 00:13:55,105 --> 00:13:57,858 ♪ 279 00:13:57,858 --> 00:13:59,818 This is the suburbs. 280 00:13:59,818 --> 00:14:03,864 It is fundamentalist and they're serious about it. 281 00:14:03,864 --> 00:14:07,159 I think at some point, John Lawson realized, 282 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:09,036 living in the suburbs of Forsyth County, 283 00:14:09,036 --> 00:14:11,455 he was never gonna quite be the top guy, 284 00:14:11,455 --> 00:14:12,748 so he decided, "If I'm gonna be bad, 285 00:14:12,748 --> 00:14:16,043 I'm gonna be bad as I can be". 286 00:14:16,043 --> 00:14:18,545 He would talk about, his father didn't want him, 287 00:14:18,545 --> 00:14:21,215 and that being a factor in why 288 00:14:21,215 --> 00:14:23,509 he wanted to kill himself. 289 00:14:23,509 --> 00:14:29,098 ♪ 290 00:14:29,098 --> 00:14:32,601 Oh, he had a hundred ways he wanted to do it, you know. 291 00:14:32,601 --> 00:14:35,771 With a shotgun, like Kurt Cobain. 292 00:14:35,771 --> 00:14:38,398 Or, you know, he would talk about, 293 00:14:38,398 --> 00:14:40,359 well, you know, when you slit your wrists in the bathtub, 294 00:14:40,359 --> 00:14:42,945 you just get real dizzy and then you die. 295 00:14:42,945 --> 00:14:47,991 ♪ 296 00:14:47,991 --> 00:14:49,493 (phone ringing) 297 00:14:51,495 --> 00:14:52,913 Yeah, is this Johnny James? 298 00:14:54,414 --> 00:14:56,250 Yeah, sir. My name is Chad Nance. 299 00:14:56,250 --> 00:14:58,585 I'm the owner and one of the journalists at the 300 00:14:58,585 --> 00:15:00,379 Camel City Dispatch. 301 00:15:00,379 --> 00:15:05,050 What I'm calling you about is the Pazuzu Algarad case, and‐‐ 302 00:15:09,054 --> 00:15:12,141 No, I do understand, but part of the reason I wanted to 303 00:15:12,141 --> 00:15:14,101 talk to you was to let you kind of clear some stuff up 304 00:15:14,101 --> 00:15:17,479 because we got your name on the deed of the house. 305 00:15:17,479 --> 00:15:20,232 I'm a step‐dad, so I mean, I know what it's like, you know. 306 00:15:20,232 --> 00:15:21,108 (Laughs) 307 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,487 He did? Do you think he hated you 'cause he was‐‐ 308 00:15:25,487 --> 00:15:27,573 you'd taken mom away from him, or was he just hateful? 309 00:15:27,573 --> 00:15:31,076 (Dial tone) 310 00:15:31,076 --> 00:15:33,745 ‐ Hello? ‐ (Dial tone) 311 00:15:33,745 --> 00:15:35,873 That's a bummer, man. 312 00:15:35,873 --> 00:15:37,833 Johnny James wouldn't go on the record with me, 313 00:15:37,833 --> 00:15:39,960 and I understand. I can't really blame him. 314 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,880 Who wants to talk about all this awful stuff all the time? 315 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,464 But at the same time, you know, 316 00:15:44,464 --> 00:15:46,091 if we don't look at the uncomfortable truths, 317 00:15:46,091 --> 00:15:49,636 we may never really get beyond it. 318 00:15:49,636 --> 00:15:53,891 I heard him scream, "I eff'in hate you..." 319 00:15:53,891 --> 00:15:56,143 Um, "I want you to just get out of my life, 320 00:15:56,143 --> 00:15:57,603 I wish you weren't here." 321 00:15:57,603 --> 00:16:00,939 This is his screaming to his step‐dad. 322 00:16:00,939 --> 00:16:02,399 According to the rumors that I've heard, 323 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:03,984 when Pazuzu's in his early twenties, 324 00:16:03,984 --> 00:16:05,444 he demands his mom, Cynthia, 325 00:16:05,444 --> 00:16:07,821 end her relationship with step‐dad Johnny James. 326 00:16:07,821 --> 00:16:09,573 Choosing her son over her husband, 327 00:16:09,573 --> 00:16:13,577 Cynthia convinced Johnny to move out of the house. 328 00:16:13,577 --> 00:16:15,913 I mean, he sort of did whatever he wanted to do. 329 00:16:15,913 --> 00:16:19,708 He was not ever bound by any authority figure. 330 00:16:19,708 --> 00:16:23,045 ♪ 331 00:16:23,045 --> 00:16:26,340 Psychologically, John was just a scared little boy. 332 00:16:26,340 --> 00:16:28,842 So, I had a really hard time 333 00:16:28,842 --> 00:16:30,594 seeing him puting a gun to somebody's head 334 00:16:30,594 --> 00:16:32,471 and pulling the trigger. 335 00:16:32,471 --> 00:16:34,389 ♪ 336 00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:37,434 "Major findings at autopsy included gunshot wounds 337 00:16:37,434 --> 00:16:39,186 of the head and torso." 338 00:16:39,186 --> 00:16:40,854 (Sighs) 339 00:16:40,854 --> 00:16:44,191 So, that's eight gunshot wounds. 340 00:16:44,191 --> 00:16:47,361 It's easy to sit back and wonder how, 341 00:16:47,361 --> 00:16:49,947 how the neighbors didn't know something was going on. 342 00:16:49,947 --> 00:16:51,823 ♪ 343 00:16:55,702 --> 00:16:57,079 It's been six months since officials discovered 344 00:16:57,079 --> 00:16:58,956 human remains buried behind a house in Clemmons and 345 00:16:58,956 --> 00:17:00,958 it will be at least another six months 346 00:17:00,958 --> 00:17:03,085 before any trial can begin. 347 00:17:03,085 --> 00:17:07,047 A judge rescheduled Pazuzu Algarad's case to October 29. 348 00:17:07,047 --> 00:17:08,757 Matlock and Burch cases are expected to be 349 00:17:08,757 --> 00:17:10,676 postponed as well. 350 00:17:10,676 --> 00:17:12,970 ♪ 351 00:17:15,722 --> 00:17:17,975 This is a rite of passage around here. 352 00:17:17,975 --> 00:17:20,018 Hobo Beach, or the beach front, 353 00:17:20,018 --> 00:17:21,186 whatever you want to call it. 354 00:17:21,186 --> 00:17:22,896 (Laughs) 355 00:17:22,896 --> 00:17:26,400 ♪ 356 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,151 Pazuzu always talked about ááááing people up and 357 00:17:28,151 --> 00:17:30,279 hurting people, and doing all this crazy shit. 358 00:17:30,279 --> 00:17:34,199 ♪ 359 00:17:34,199 --> 00:17:36,159 He was like a really good actor. 360 00:17:36,159 --> 00:17:38,954 He would be one guy around me and then a completely 361 00:17:38,954 --> 00:17:40,831 different person around other people. 362 00:17:40,831 --> 00:17:43,959 ♪ 363 00:17:43,959 --> 00:17:46,128 He was cool to hang out with, but, like, 364 00:17:46,128 --> 00:17:47,921 he really was Schizophrenic. 365 00:17:47,921 --> 00:17:50,132 ...been like two years since I been down here. 366 00:17:50,132 --> 00:17:53,176 áááá society. Live in a tent. 367 00:17:53,176 --> 00:17:54,386 Watch your step right there. 368 00:17:54,386 --> 00:17:56,597 I think I kept him in a straight line. 369 00:17:56,597 --> 00:17:58,265 People have been painting down here since like, 370 00:17:58,265 --> 00:18:02,311 the 90s. (Laughs) 371 00:18:02,311 --> 00:18:04,896 Like, we did like Jackass shit. 372 00:18:04,896 --> 00:18:06,565 Just did dumb shit. We spray painted. 373 00:18:06,565 --> 00:18:09,067 But while I'm spray painting, like, "Anarchy", 374 00:18:09,067 --> 00:18:11,361 or whatever the áááá I was doing when I was a kid... 375 00:18:11,361 --> 00:18:13,822 Pazuzu's spraying, like, inverted pentagrams and 376 00:18:13,822 --> 00:18:15,824 "666" and he's like yelling, like, 377 00:18:15,824 --> 00:18:19,661 "Where is your God now?" And I'm like, 378 00:18:19,661 --> 00:18:21,830 "All right, whatever. I guess you're having fun." 379 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:26,335 Like, kind of stupid you said that. 380 00:18:26,335 --> 00:18:28,879 But I think he took that shit too seriously, you know. 381 00:18:28,879 --> 00:18:30,005 Ah, yeah, the reverb in here is awesome. 382 00:18:30,005 --> 00:18:31,673 Look at this. 383 00:18:31,673 --> 00:18:34,593 (claps & echoes) 384 00:18:34,593 --> 00:18:35,636 Put some drums right here at the end. 385 00:18:35,636 --> 00:18:37,137 Woo! 386 00:18:37,137 --> 00:18:39,264 Actually, Pazuzu and I, back when he was like 387 00:18:39,264 --> 00:18:41,850 kind of cool, we had like a little bonfire and we were 388 00:18:41,850 --> 00:18:43,310 spray painting and we took the spray‐paint cans and 389 00:18:43,310 --> 00:18:45,687 put it on the bonfire and we like ran that way... 390 00:18:45,687 --> 00:18:48,106 Boom! Like, big ass flames, I can just hear it, like... 391 00:18:48,106 --> 00:18:50,734 I can't believe no one came down here for that one. 392 00:18:50,734 --> 00:18:55,822 ‐ Shall we venture onward? ‐ Ah, sure. 393 00:18:55,822 --> 00:18:58,742 I just think about it, you know, it's like, áááá... 394 00:18:58,742 --> 00:19:00,952 I feel like if I didn't leave for the military that 395 00:19:00,952 --> 00:19:04,456 it never would've happened. Never would've happened. 396 00:19:04,456 --> 00:19:06,208 Straight up. 397 00:19:06,208 --> 00:19:12,255 ♪ 398 00:19:12,255 --> 00:19:14,091 For the first time, Pazuzu Algarad's mother 399 00:19:14,091 --> 00:19:16,802 was in front of our camera. 400 00:19:16,802 --> 00:19:19,054 Cynthia James met with county officials 401 00:19:19,054 --> 00:19:22,224 over the fate of her house on Knob Hill Drive. 402 00:19:22,224 --> 00:19:24,559 The County originally told the homeowner, 403 00:19:24,559 --> 00:19:27,979 Algarad's mother, that she had until Christmas Day to decide ‐ 404 00:19:27,979 --> 00:19:30,732 tear it down or fix it up. 405 00:19:30,732 --> 00:19:35,070 Ms. James had nothing to say during the hearing, or to us. 406 00:19:35,070 --> 00:19:42,035 ♪ 407 00:19:42,035 --> 00:19:43,537 Pazuzu's mother would have been the first person 408 00:19:43,537 --> 00:19:46,581 I picked up. 409 00:19:46,581 --> 00:19:47,999 There are legitimate questions, like, 410 00:19:47,999 --> 00:19:51,336 how could you allow this to go on? 411 00:19:51,336 --> 00:19:53,714 Were you intimidated and scared of your son 412 00:19:53,714 --> 00:19:56,967 to the point that, you know, or did you just love your son and 413 00:19:56,967 --> 00:19:59,094 were, you know, catering him to the point where 414 00:19:59,094 --> 00:20:01,596 these things are allowed to happen. 415 00:20:01,596 --> 00:20:05,517 Cynthia James... She's somewhat of a cipher. 416 00:20:05,517 --> 00:20:08,895 I graduated from high school in 1996. 417 00:20:08,895 --> 00:20:11,898 The house was beautiful, his mom took care of it. 418 00:20:11,898 --> 00:20:14,234 They had cream colored carpet. 419 00:20:14,234 --> 00:20:17,362 When you walked in, you took your shoes off. 420 00:20:17,362 --> 00:20:20,615 I moved down here in 2010, 421 00:20:20,615 --> 00:20:22,951 and it was a completely different scene. 422 00:20:22,951 --> 00:20:26,705 The house was an absolute disaster. 423 00:20:26,705 --> 00:20:30,041 You know, Pazuzu's living off his mom, 424 00:20:30,041 --> 00:20:32,544 treating her like shit. She was paying all the bills, 425 00:20:32,544 --> 00:20:34,838 buying him a case of beer every day, buying him, 426 00:20:34,838 --> 00:20:38,383 you know, bags of rolling tobacco every day. 427 00:20:38,383 --> 00:20:42,053 He's not doing anything good for anybody. 428 00:20:42,053 --> 00:20:44,181 You know, as a parent, what do you do 429 00:20:44,181 --> 00:20:46,725 when your situation spirals out of control... 430 00:20:46,725 --> 00:20:48,393 when your kid drops out of school, 431 00:20:48,393 --> 00:20:50,729 and when he starts abusing drugs, 432 00:20:50,729 --> 00:20:53,940 and when he starts sacrificing animals? 433 00:20:53,940 --> 00:20:56,651 Pazuzu used to sacrifice a rabbit. 434 00:20:56,651 --> 00:20:58,820 Slitting rabbit's throats and dumping their blood and 435 00:20:58,820 --> 00:21:01,615 rubbing the blood all over his face. 436 00:21:01,615 --> 00:21:05,035 He felt like it would give him higher power. 437 00:21:05,035 --> 00:21:08,330 There was a cat hanging in his tree. I saw it. 438 00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:11,708 I know that it was a cat hanging in his tree. 439 00:21:11,708 --> 00:21:14,211 At some point, you know, you just figure he felt 440 00:21:14,211 --> 00:21:17,172 he had to take his animal sacrifice to the next level... 441 00:21:17,172 --> 00:21:19,466 to human sacrifice. 442 00:21:19,466 --> 00:21:23,970 ♪ 443 00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:28,183 These are the autopsy reports for Josh. 444 00:21:32,896 --> 00:21:37,567 This is the first time I've seen this, and... 445 00:21:37,567 --> 00:21:39,694 You know, we just never heard anything back 446 00:21:39,694 --> 00:21:42,614 from the DA or from the detectives. 447 00:21:46,284 --> 00:21:49,329 "The cause of death for this 37‐year‐old Caucasian male, 448 00:21:49,329 --> 00:21:54,292 Joshua Fredrick Wetzler, is multiple gunshot wounds. 449 00:21:54,292 --> 00:21:57,462 Major findings at autopsy included gunshot wounds of 450 00:21:57,462 --> 00:22:00,590 the head and torso with recovery of multiple bullet 451 00:22:00,590 --> 00:22:02,509 and bullet fragments." 452 00:22:02,509 --> 00:22:04,803 (sighs) 453 00:22:04,803 --> 00:22:07,681 "Three gunshot wounds involve the head. 454 00:22:07,681 --> 00:22:12,352 Four possibly..." 455 00:22:12,352 --> 00:22:14,980 (sighs) 456 00:22:18,817 --> 00:22:21,528 "Four and possibly five gunshot wounds 457 00:22:21,528 --> 00:22:23,572 involving torso." 458 00:22:23,572 --> 00:22:31,496 ♪ 459 00:22:31,496 --> 00:22:36,167 So, that's eight gunshot wounds. 460 00:22:36,167 --> 00:22:39,838 And so, you know, it just... 461 00:22:39,838 --> 00:22:42,883 it seems like... 462 00:22:42,883 --> 00:22:45,343 that somebody would have heard that. 463 00:22:45,343 --> 00:22:50,765 ♪ 464 00:22:50,765 --> 00:22:53,894 It's easy to sit back and wonder how the neighbors 465 00:22:53,894 --> 00:22:58,189 didn't know something was going on. 466 00:22:58,189 --> 00:23:01,776 The neighbor to the left, I mean... 467 00:23:01,776 --> 00:23:04,237 You could be on their back deck and 468 00:23:04,237 --> 00:23:08,116 see into Pazuzu's yard fine. 469 00:23:08,116 --> 00:23:13,622 ♪ 470 00:23:13,622 --> 00:23:16,082 You know, I'm just... 471 00:23:16,082 --> 00:23:18,168 Glad I wasn't his neighbor. 472 00:23:18,168 --> 00:23:32,641 ♪ 473 00:23:32,641 --> 00:23:35,644 His name was John Lawson. 474 00:23:35,644 --> 00:23:39,022 I knew a guy that was just locked up with him recently. 475 00:23:39,022 --> 00:23:40,982 He said that they had locked down the whole jail because 476 00:23:40,982 --> 00:23:43,318 he, he had his teeth filed, 477 00:23:43,318 --> 00:23:46,571 he bit into an artery in his arm, and... 478 00:23:46,571 --> 00:23:49,449 I guess they locked down the whole jail because of that. 479 00:23:49,449 --> 00:23:51,159 So... 480 00:23:51,159 --> 00:23:53,536 ♪ 481 00:23:53,536 --> 00:23:56,039 Nate came around with Jenna not that long ago and 482 00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:59,084 we just clicked, so we started hanging out. 483 00:23:59,084 --> 00:24:00,710 And, basically, since we all use, 484 00:24:00,710 --> 00:24:02,420 it's kind of like a little... (Laughs) 485 00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:05,048 Like, everybody that uses knows everybody. 486 00:24:05,048 --> 00:24:07,342 Oh, God. Seth said he feels so bad. 487 00:24:07,342 --> 00:24:08,969 Oh, shit, that sucks. 488 00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:11,596 My boyfriend goes to work sick every day. 489 00:24:11,596 --> 00:24:15,058 Seth has a much harder habit than you do and he still 490 00:24:15,058 --> 00:24:17,018 gets up and goes to work even though he's sick. 491 00:24:17,018 --> 00:24:19,479 I know. I know, darling. 492 00:24:19,479 --> 00:24:21,856 ‐ Just, note it. ‐ I know. 493 00:24:21,856 --> 00:24:24,442 It's why, it's why I want to quit altogether. 494 00:24:24,442 --> 00:24:26,569 As soon as I get my financial aid disbursement, 495 00:24:26,569 --> 00:24:29,406 I can get by Ibogaine and ááááing be done with it. 496 00:24:29,406 --> 00:24:32,075 Have y'all ever thought about going to a clinic? 497 00:24:32,075 --> 00:24:35,203 ‐ I don't want to quit. ‐ You don't? 498 00:24:35,203 --> 00:24:37,163 The rehabs around here are so shitty. 499 00:24:37,163 --> 00:24:38,707 I don't have the insurance. 500 00:24:38,707 --> 00:24:40,917 And the nice ones, like, the, like people in Hollywood 501 00:24:40,917 --> 00:24:44,879 go to are like $60,000 a day. (Laughs) 502 00:24:44,879 --> 00:24:46,423 I mean, I don't know who can afford that, 503 00:24:46,423 --> 00:24:47,966 but I damn sure can't. 504 00:24:47,966 --> 00:24:58,018 ♪ 505 00:24:58,018 --> 00:25:05,275 ♪ 506 00:25:05,275 --> 00:25:07,444 Algarad was transported to Central Prison 507 00:25:07,444 --> 00:25:09,195 on a safekeeping order. 508 00:25:09,195 --> 00:25:10,613 I sent the Sheriff's Department like three emails 509 00:25:10,613 --> 00:25:12,073 and got nothing. I've left voicemails. 510 00:25:12,073 --> 00:25:13,950 I got nothing. 511 00:25:13,950 --> 00:25:16,870 There's the search warrants from 2014. 512 00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:21,041 And then we found out that the search warrants were sealed. 513 00:25:21,041 --> 00:25:22,083 There is something in those search warrants that 514 00:25:22,083 --> 00:25:23,960 law enforcement didn't want out. 515 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,712 ♪ 516 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,845 Algarad was transported to Central Prison on a 517 00:25:33,845 --> 00:25:36,639 safekeeping order as part of a joint request by both 518 00:25:36,639 --> 00:25:39,559 his defense counsel and the district attorney's office. 519 00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:49,486 ♪ 520 00:25:49,486 --> 00:25:57,660 ♪ 521 00:25:57,660 --> 00:25:59,996 I mean, I sent the Sheriff's Department... 522 00:25:59,996 --> 00:26:02,248 At this point, I've sent him like 3 emails and got nothing. 523 00:26:02,248 --> 00:26:06,044 I've left voicemails and got nothing. 524 00:26:06,044 --> 00:26:09,422 We got no details on anything. 525 00:26:09,422 --> 00:26:12,801 All we got is, what? Is, rumor and conjecture what people said. 526 00:26:12,801 --> 00:26:14,135 We got all those comments that people are leaving and 527 00:26:14,135 --> 00:26:16,262 that's all I know. 528 00:26:16,262 --> 00:26:17,889 You think he's gonna actually tell us anything? 529 00:26:17,889 --> 00:26:20,183 No, he's gonna say anything 'cause Brad Stanley and them 530 00:26:20,183 --> 00:26:21,726 don't talk about anything. 531 00:26:21,726 --> 00:26:22,769 I've got a bowl right here. I got this. 532 00:26:22,769 --> 00:26:27,732 You got this? You go. 533 00:26:27,732 --> 00:26:30,985 We end up having to do dirt bag research because 534 00:26:30,985 --> 00:26:33,488 none of the authorities are talking. 535 00:26:33,488 --> 00:26:35,740 The people who probably actually know the real story 536 00:26:35,740 --> 00:26:39,202 are going to be people that were his teachers, 537 00:26:39,202 --> 00:26:41,412 or counselors at school, or gonna be a psychiatrist 538 00:26:41,412 --> 00:26:42,497 or something like that. 539 00:26:42,497 --> 00:26:44,999 They cannot talk about this stuff. 540 00:26:44,999 --> 00:26:47,293 They're not gonna go tell us stuff that's, 541 00:26:47,293 --> 00:26:49,963 that they cannot release. 542 00:26:49,963 --> 00:26:51,631 We gotta get something. I mean, 'cause 543 00:26:51,631 --> 00:26:53,091 the only way we'll find out about these searches 544 00:26:53,091 --> 00:26:55,301 is either talk to Miss Cynthia, 545 00:26:55,301 --> 00:26:56,678 talk to somebody that was in the house 546 00:26:56,678 --> 00:26:58,221 when these searches took place. 547 00:26:58,221 --> 00:26:59,681 I mean, we don't have enough‐‐ 548 00:26:59,681 --> 00:27:01,307 So, we've hit a wall, let's just get on with it. 549 00:27:01,307 --> 00:27:02,475 I just don't see how we can do it without 550 00:27:02,475 --> 00:27:04,018 access to the courthouse. 551 00:27:04,018 --> 00:27:06,980 We can't get access to the courthouse without a lawyer. 552 00:27:06,980 --> 00:27:09,107 It's incredibly frustrating 'cause how do you tell 553 00:27:09,107 --> 00:27:11,734 a whole story without all the facts? 554 00:27:11,734 --> 00:27:12,986 And I know that there are people out there 555 00:27:12,986 --> 00:27:15,405 who need some real answers. 556 00:27:15,405 --> 00:27:21,744 (birds chirping) 557 00:27:21,744 --> 00:27:23,746 ♪ 558 00:27:23,746 --> 00:27:27,166 So, today is Mother's Day and I'm moving. 559 00:27:30,837 --> 00:27:33,506 I had lost my job. I was a contract employee, 560 00:27:33,506 --> 00:27:37,468 so I wasn't paid any kind of unemployment. 561 00:27:37,468 --> 00:27:39,596 I'd worked really hard there, 562 00:27:39,596 --> 00:27:41,723 but I never made any money. 563 00:27:41,723 --> 00:27:45,685 ♪ 564 00:27:45,685 --> 00:27:48,021 When Josh was found, Jared was able to 565 00:27:48,021 --> 00:27:52,400 start receiving social security payments. 566 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,486 But, the day that he started receiving money was 567 00:27:55,486 --> 00:27:57,572 based on the date that they found Josh, 568 00:27:57,572 --> 00:28:01,284 which is the official date on his death certificate. 569 00:28:01,284 --> 00:28:04,370 So, for those five years that Josh was missing, 570 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:08,291 Jared did not receive any social security money. 571 00:28:08,291 --> 00:28:10,668 We had no financial support at all. 572 00:28:10,668 --> 00:28:13,004 ♪ 573 00:28:13,004 --> 00:28:16,257 Jared receives about $700 a month. 574 00:28:16,257 --> 00:28:22,972 Over a five‐year period, we're talking about $35,000. 575 00:28:22,972 --> 00:28:24,474 With that amount of money, we could've made 576 00:28:24,474 --> 00:28:26,893 a down payment on a house. (Laughs) 577 00:28:26,893 --> 00:28:36,819 ♪ 578 00:28:36,819 --> 00:28:43,159 ♪ 579 00:28:43,159 --> 00:28:45,912 Fortunately, Michael Hewlett found me on Facebook and 580 00:28:45,912 --> 00:28:49,123 took an interest in the case. 581 00:28:49,123 --> 00:28:51,709 He's told me a whole lot more than the DA or 582 00:28:51,709 --> 00:28:55,421 the Sheriff's Department. 583 00:28:55,421 --> 00:29:00,927 (indistinct speaking) 584 00:29:00,927 --> 00:29:02,929 I'm Michael Hewlett. I'm the legal affairs reporter 585 00:29:02,929 --> 00:29:05,431 at the Winston‐Salem Journal. 586 00:29:05,431 --> 00:29:10,687 There was a Facebook page dedicated to Josh Wetzler... 587 00:29:10,687 --> 00:29:16,109 and Stacey was the administrator for that site. 588 00:29:16,109 --> 00:29:18,486 What I find is that a lot of victims, 589 00:29:18,486 --> 00:29:22,365 they don't understand how these criminal cases go. 590 00:29:22,365 --> 00:29:25,618 They think, oh, you know, it's like Law & Order. 591 00:29:25,618 --> 00:29:27,787 Oh, the investigation and then... 592 00:29:27,787 --> 00:29:29,372 oh, there's your trial, all of a sudden, 593 00:29:29,372 --> 00:29:31,040 before the hour is over. 594 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,459 And, that's not how it happens in real life. 595 00:29:33,459 --> 00:29:35,461 In real life, it... you know, 596 00:29:35,461 --> 00:29:38,297 particularly for a murder case, you're talking about a 597 00:29:38,297 --> 00:29:42,635 two, three‐year process, unfortunately. 598 00:29:42,635 --> 00:29:46,764 Journalists, our job is to report. 599 00:29:46,764 --> 00:29:49,434 If there's relevant information to a particular case 600 00:29:49,434 --> 00:29:52,311 that people should know about, 601 00:29:52,311 --> 00:29:56,649 we need to fight to get that information out. 602 00:29:56,649 --> 00:29:59,360 When the remains were found, I immediately went to the 603 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,486 courthouse to see whether or not 604 00:30:00,486 --> 00:30:02,989 there were search warrants. 605 00:30:02,989 --> 00:30:04,782 Search warrants can provide a lot more information 606 00:30:04,782 --> 00:30:09,954 than law enforcement are willing to say publicly. 607 00:30:09,954 --> 00:30:11,998 I was looking for the search warrants 608 00:30:11,998 --> 00:30:13,791 in the Amber Burch case. 609 00:30:13,791 --> 00:30:15,835 We were told, yes, 610 00:30:15,835 --> 00:30:19,714 there's these search warrants from 2014, and then 611 00:30:19,714 --> 00:30:22,759 we found out that the search warrants were sealed. 612 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:23,968 There was something in those search warrants that 613 00:30:23,968 --> 00:30:26,179 law enforcement didn't want out. 614 00:30:26,179 --> 00:30:30,183 ♪ 615 00:30:30,183 --> 00:30:32,018 On behalf of this whole street, 616 00:30:32,018 --> 00:30:35,354 I just want to apologize to anybody involved. 617 00:30:35,354 --> 00:30:38,733 We let two men be missing for five years. 618 00:30:38,733 --> 00:30:41,736 It's actually somewhat of a mixed bag of emotions right now. 619 00:30:41,736 --> 00:30:43,905 Woohoo! We're celebrating. 620 00:30:43,905 --> 00:30:45,865 ♪ 621 00:30:48,743 --> 00:30:56,125 ♪ 622 00:30:56,125 --> 00:30:57,794 Said property is commonly known as 623 00:30:57,794 --> 00:31:01,422 2749 Knob Hill Drive in Clemmons, North Carolina. 624 00:31:01,422 --> 00:31:07,428 I have a bid of $123,798.39. 625 00:31:07,428 --> 00:31:11,182 Going once... 626 00:31:11,182 --> 00:31:14,852 Twice... 627 00:31:14,852 --> 00:31:17,814 Three times. 628 00:31:17,814 --> 00:31:19,107 That's what the whole neighborhood wants; 629 00:31:19,107 --> 00:31:21,234 we just want the house gone. 630 00:31:21,234 --> 00:31:23,069 Will it return the neighborhood to the way it was? 631 00:31:23,069 --> 00:31:24,779 Yeah, I think so. I think so. 632 00:31:24,779 --> 00:31:26,656 It's just, you know, everybody's been upset 633 00:31:26,656 --> 00:31:29,283 for the last six months. It just needs to be gone. 634 00:31:29,283 --> 00:31:37,583 ♪ 635 00:31:37,583 --> 00:31:38,876 Good afternoon, thanks for joining us. 636 00:31:38,876 --> 00:31:40,503 Crews started tearing down the former home of 637 00:31:40,503 --> 00:31:43,422 Pazuzu Algarad around 8:45 this morning. 638 00:31:43,422 --> 00:31:46,843 It's actually somewhat of a mixed bag of emotions right now. 639 00:31:46,843 --> 00:31:49,512 Woohoo! We're celebrating. 640 00:31:49,512 --> 00:31:51,889 This is a party. We are very excited. 641 00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:54,684 We got the picnic spread already ready. 642 00:31:54,684 --> 00:31:56,310 Michael, you got everything you need, buddy? 643 00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:59,021 The neighborhood is having somewhat of a 644 00:31:59,021 --> 00:32:01,858 neighborly gathering here, a celebration. 645 00:32:01,858 --> 00:32:03,442 They're trying to keep it positive. 646 00:32:09,073 --> 00:32:12,535 You can see some of that dust coming out of the house. 647 00:32:12,535 --> 00:32:15,079 Neighbors were saying it was almost as though that dust 648 00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:18,416 represented all of the evil spirits and the bad memories 649 00:32:18,416 --> 00:32:22,503 which this house was holding, and just releasing them. 650 00:32:22,503 --> 00:32:25,798 In a way I'm relieved, you know. I'm just sort of glad. 651 00:32:25,798 --> 00:32:28,384 I wouldn't want it standing there like it was. 652 00:32:28,384 --> 00:32:31,095 ♪ 653 00:32:31,095 --> 00:32:33,264 We'll get back to our nice, quiet, 654 00:32:33,264 --> 00:32:37,018 very wonderful neighborhood. 655 00:32:37,018 --> 00:32:41,230 Hopefully, this provides some closure for them as well. 656 00:32:41,230 --> 00:32:44,150 Guys... 657 00:32:44,150 --> 00:32:46,819 They condemn the house; they take bulldozers out there; 658 00:32:46,819 --> 00:32:49,071 they push it all into the basement, 659 00:32:49,071 --> 00:32:50,907 tear up the swimming pool, cover the thing up, 660 00:32:50,907 --> 00:32:53,492 fill it all full of dirt and wipe it clean from 661 00:32:53,492 --> 00:32:54,911 the face of the earth. 662 00:32:54,911 --> 00:32:56,829 All this happened in a matter of a few months. 663 00:32:56,829 --> 00:33:03,294 They wiped it from the face of the earth that fast. 664 00:33:03,294 --> 00:33:04,962 They don't want to talk about this anymore. 665 00:33:04,962 --> 00:33:06,547 They want to "move on". 666 00:33:06,547 --> 00:33:09,133 Move on, meaning not examine what caused this. 667 00:33:09,133 --> 00:33:10,593 Don't look into my own heart and see 668 00:33:10,593 --> 00:33:12,220 how I might be responsible. 669 00:33:12,220 --> 00:33:15,514 Let's just move on and pretend it never happened. 670 00:33:17,266 --> 00:33:21,062 When people think that you can put somebody in jail, 671 00:33:21,062 --> 00:33:24,815 you can take down a house, that that somehow clears it... 672 00:33:24,815 --> 00:33:27,360 They have no idea. 673 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,154 Didn't make anything better for my child. 674 00:33:30,154 --> 00:33:33,532 It didn't make anything better for me or Tommy's family. 675 00:33:33,532 --> 00:33:38,120 It did not fix anything. 676 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,248 You can't bring somebody's daddy back. 677 00:33:40,248 --> 00:33:45,127 ♪ 678 00:33:45,127 --> 00:33:46,921 On behalf of this whole street, 679 00:33:46,921 --> 00:33:51,550 I just want to apologize to anybody involved because 680 00:33:51,550 --> 00:33:55,554 I wish, I wish that we could have done something and 681 00:33:55,554 --> 00:34:00,893 I'm so, so sorry that we let you down. 682 00:34:00,893 --> 00:34:03,980 We let two men be missing for five years. 683 00:34:03,980 --> 00:34:06,774 ♪ 684 00:34:06,774 --> 00:34:09,235 I think Josh's death was totally preventable, 685 00:34:09,235 --> 00:34:12,989 but nobody took responsibility. 686 00:34:12,989 --> 00:34:16,284 When Pazuzu was young, there were people that were 687 00:34:16,284 --> 00:34:21,080 well aware that there was a problem. 688 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,624 How did he fall through the cracks? 689 00:34:23,624 --> 00:34:26,127 ♪ 690 00:34:26,127 --> 00:34:28,421 As a society, we are failing. 691 00:34:28,421 --> 00:34:30,548 And I mean, the answers aren't easy to come by, 692 00:34:30,548 --> 00:34:32,758 but one thing I do know is that when you see someone 693 00:34:32,758 --> 00:34:34,719 totally self‐destructing, or destroying themselves 694 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,263 or others, you gotta face it head‐on. 695 00:34:37,263 --> 00:34:40,391 (birds chirping) 696 00:34:40,391 --> 00:34:43,102 Jenna's parents let us move in with them. 697 00:34:43,102 --> 00:34:46,147 And, since we don't have to pay bills or rent or 698 00:34:46,147 --> 00:34:49,859 anything right now, it gives us a lot more money to, 699 00:34:49,859 --> 00:34:51,235 to get high. 700 00:34:54,363 --> 00:34:58,951 Well, I'd just gotten off of work last night... 701 00:34:58,951 --> 00:35:00,828 Went to go get some drugs... 702 00:35:05,082 --> 00:35:09,962 So I was on 485, about fifteen minutes out from here... 703 00:35:09,962 --> 00:35:13,966 And, I ááááing wake up and I'm drifting over onto the 704 00:35:13,966 --> 00:35:15,801 left side of the ááááing‐‐ I guess I was 705 00:35:15,801 --> 00:35:18,929 in the fast lane and I jerked back over. 706 00:35:18,929 --> 00:35:25,186 And, so of course, I fly across the ááááing road and 707 00:35:25,186 --> 00:35:27,897 straight into the grass on the other side and there's 708 00:35:27,897 --> 00:35:29,607 this like steep‐ass ááááing ditch. 709 00:35:29,607 --> 00:35:32,610 I go straight down it. I was freaking out. 710 00:35:32,610 --> 00:35:35,446 I'm not gonna lie. I was ááááing... crying, man. 711 00:35:35,446 --> 00:35:37,657 I just got a ááááing bunch of work done on the car. 712 00:35:37,657 --> 00:35:41,535 My mom spent $1,200 on that ááááing car yesterday. 713 00:35:41,535 --> 00:35:43,663 And, you know, I was freaking out 'cause I was 714 00:35:43,663 --> 00:35:45,498 afraid someone was gonna pull over and see me 715 00:35:45,498 --> 00:35:47,458 on the side of the road and call the cops, 716 00:35:47,458 --> 00:35:50,002 and you know, I got ááááing drugs in my system. 717 00:35:50,002 --> 00:35:53,506 I mean, I probably should have just parked the car and 718 00:35:53,506 --> 00:35:55,591 slept somewhere, but I had a bag for Jenna and 719 00:35:55,591 --> 00:35:57,635 I wanted to bring it to her. 720 00:35:57,635 --> 00:35:59,136 ♪ 721 00:35:59,136 --> 00:36:02,056 (phone ringing) 722 00:36:02,056 --> 00:36:03,641 ‐ Phone: Hello? ‐ Hey. 723 00:36:03,641 --> 00:36:07,103 ‐ Hey, what's up? ‐ Um, nothing. 724 00:36:07,103 --> 00:36:11,107 I just got up. 725 00:36:11,107 --> 00:36:15,861 I ááááing totaled the car last night? 726 00:36:15,861 --> 00:36:19,448 Did you give them the insurance information and everything? 727 00:36:19,448 --> 00:36:26,080 No, I just had Jenna pick me up. I‐‐ I mean... 728 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,957 Were you, were you using? 729 00:36:27,957 --> 00:36:30,084 Is that why you didn't call the police? 730 00:36:30,084 --> 00:36:33,337 No, I was just‐‐ I mean, that's still technically a DWI, 731 00:36:33,337 --> 00:36:37,216 isn't it, if you fall asleep at the wheel? 732 00:36:37,216 --> 00:36:39,051 Well, you just don't tell 'em that. 733 00:36:39,051 --> 00:36:40,928 You tell 'em that a deer jumped out in front of you, 734 00:36:40,928 --> 00:36:42,388 or a dog. 735 00:36:42,388 --> 00:36:45,683 Oh, yeah. 736 00:36:45,683 --> 00:36:48,102 ‐ But, yes, it is. Okay. 737 00:36:48,102 --> 00:36:50,438 That's... bad. 738 00:36:50,438 --> 00:36:53,691 And it's bad that you didn't call the police. 739 00:36:53,691 --> 00:36:55,818 Yeah. 740 00:36:55,818 --> 00:36:59,321 So, you need to do that, like, immediately. 741 00:36:59,321 --> 00:37:01,198 Okay. 742 00:37:01,198 --> 00:37:03,659 You do not put that off. You do it immediately, okay? 743 00:37:03,659 --> 00:37:06,579 Okay. Okay. 744 00:37:06,579 --> 00:37:08,456 Can you pass a test right now? 745 00:37:08,456 --> 00:37:10,124 Yeah. 746 00:37:10,124 --> 00:37:13,502 Well... Ah, shit. 747 00:37:13,502 --> 00:37:16,213 ♪ 748 00:37:16,213 --> 00:37:19,508 Like, as soon as Pazuzu finally got busted, 749 00:37:19,508 --> 00:37:20,509 everyone came out of the woodwork. 750 00:37:20,509 --> 00:37:22,386 "I knew him. We were friends." 751 00:37:22,386 --> 00:37:24,388 I mean, he had this spit mask on. I mean, 752 00:37:24,388 --> 00:37:26,849 it was straight up, like, the ááááing, the thing, you know. 753 00:37:26,849 --> 00:37:28,476 The thing that like, the thing that 754 00:37:28,476 --> 00:37:33,189 you never believe is real, like, in movies. 755 00:37:33,189 --> 00:37:35,524 Like, it was real. It was real then. 756 00:37:41,822 --> 00:37:43,574 The mainstream media in this case 757 00:37:43,574 --> 00:37:46,118 went the sensationalist angle. 758 00:37:46,118 --> 00:37:48,579 Camel City Dispatch did what we do; 759 00:37:48,579 --> 00:37:51,791 at heart, we are humanist, and we took the humanist angle. 760 00:37:51,791 --> 00:37:54,835 Because for us, it boils down to human beings and 761 00:37:54,835 --> 00:37:56,796 how they behave towards one another and 762 00:37:56,796 --> 00:38:00,049 how they are affected by the behavior of others. 763 00:38:00,049 --> 00:38:10,142 ♪ 764 00:38:10,142 --> 00:38:17,399 ♪ 765 00:38:17,399 --> 00:38:20,069 "By all accounts, John Alexander Lawson 766 00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:23,781 began life uneventfully, on August 12th of 1978." 767 00:38:23,781 --> 00:38:26,242 ♪ 768 00:38:26,242 --> 00:38:28,494 "Over the next twenty years, Lawson has done 769 00:38:28,494 --> 00:38:30,830 everything he could to make himself seem evil, 770 00:38:30,830 --> 00:38:35,835 powerful, and frightening. 771 00:38:35,835 --> 00:38:38,128 This kid from West Forsyth looked in the mirror one day 772 00:38:38,128 --> 00:38:41,507 and decided that what he saw wasn't good enough. 773 00:38:41,507 --> 00:38:44,510 What he wanted to see was the boogeyman." 774 00:38:44,510 --> 00:38:47,179 ♪ 775 00:38:47,179 --> 00:38:50,391 "And by all accounts, he succeeded in spades." 776 00:38:50,391 --> 00:38:54,061 ♪ 777 00:38:54,061 --> 00:38:56,230 Pazuzu murdered people. He destroyed lives. 778 00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:58,274 You can't explain that away with Satan and evil. 779 00:38:58,274 --> 00:39:00,568 Ain't gonna do anybody any good. 780 00:39:00,568 --> 00:39:02,570 You know, first, Pazuzu's search warrant's sealed, 781 00:39:02,570 --> 00:39:04,613 then a safekeeping order is sealed. 782 00:39:04,613 --> 00:39:05,865 And again, you know, I get the feeling that 783 00:39:05,865 --> 00:39:06,991 it's just like, we don't want to look at this, 784 00:39:06,991 --> 00:39:08,367 we don't want to talk about it. 785 00:39:08,367 --> 00:39:09,827 We really don't want to face our 786 00:39:09,827 --> 00:39:11,829 collective responsibility for what happened here. 787 00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:17,835 ♪ 788 00:39:17,835 --> 00:39:21,380 Pazuzu saw me as his brother, literally. 789 00:39:21,380 --> 00:39:26,677 Literally, as a brother. 790 00:39:26,677 --> 00:39:28,637 I really miss my friend, man. 791 00:39:36,228 --> 00:39:37,354 I mean, I remember sitting there 792 00:39:37,354 --> 00:39:41,066 talking to him sometimes, like... 793 00:39:41,066 --> 00:39:43,736 He'd talk to me about life, and... 794 00:39:43,736 --> 00:39:45,446 We were ááááing friends, dude, 795 00:39:45,446 --> 00:39:46,906 and like, all this shit happened, 796 00:39:46,906 --> 00:39:48,824 this stupid shit. 797 00:39:48,824 --> 00:39:52,703 (Laughs) Hit me, man. Hit me. 798 00:39:56,540 --> 00:40:09,345 (indistinct speaking & laughs) 799 00:40:09,345 --> 00:40:13,307 He wasn't ááááing Pazuzu to me. 800 00:40:13,307 --> 00:40:17,144 I was in for first and second‐degree kidnapping, and... 801 00:40:17,144 --> 00:40:18,938 under a bunch of faulty charges, 802 00:40:18,938 --> 00:40:20,564 you know what I mean, but I, I lost my shit 803 00:40:20,564 --> 00:40:24,068 when I first went in, so they sent me to the hole, you know. 804 00:40:24,068 --> 00:40:28,781 And so, was in there, and this ááááááááááer just like, 805 00:40:28,781 --> 00:40:31,367 in‐between crying, and shouting, and yelling, 806 00:40:31,367 --> 00:40:33,786 and reciting like whoever the áááá's lyrics... 807 00:40:33,786 --> 00:40:35,079 He was out of his ááááing mind, 808 00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:36,288 you know what I mean. 809 00:40:36,288 --> 00:40:37,873 We all were like looking out, 810 00:40:37,873 --> 00:40:40,417 and like, he's like this tall. He's shorter than him. 811 00:40:40,417 --> 00:40:43,045 He ain't nothing, you know what I mean, whatever. 812 00:40:43,045 --> 00:40:45,339 I mean, he was restrained, you know, like here. 813 00:40:45,339 --> 00:40:47,091 And it did, it looked like they were bringing 814 00:40:47,091 --> 00:40:49,969 ááááing Hannibal Lecter into the ááááing jail, 815 00:40:49,969 --> 00:40:51,553 you know what I mean. 816 00:40:51,553 --> 00:40:54,014 And, we were all watching, and he had the spit mask on. 817 00:40:54,014 --> 00:40:56,100 I mean, like, it was straight up, like the ááááing... 818 00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,477 the thing, you know, the thing that like, 819 00:40:58,477 --> 00:41:02,231 the thing that you never believe is real... 820 00:41:02,231 --> 00:41:05,025 Like, in movies. Like, it was real. 821 00:41:05,025 --> 00:41:06,777 It was real then. 822 00:41:06,777 --> 00:41:16,787 ♪ 823 00:41:16,787 --> 00:41:22,126 ♪ 824 00:41:22,126 --> 00:41:24,920 Like, as soon as Pazuzu finally got busted, 825 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,171 everyone came out of the woodwork. 826 00:41:26,171 --> 00:41:28,382 "I knew him. We were friends." 827 00:41:28,382 --> 00:41:33,178 ♪ 828 00:41:33,178 --> 00:41:34,680 Most of the things that I've heard people say 829 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,266 about Pazuzu, never really ááááing happened. 830 00:41:37,266 --> 00:41:40,561 ♪ 831 00:41:40,561 --> 00:41:42,271 Might get some cool shit over here. 832 00:41:42,271 --> 00:41:48,777 ♪ 833 00:41:48,777 --> 00:41:50,529 Word up. 834 00:41:50,529 --> 00:41:53,240 Mm, you gotta get this one. You gotta this one. 835 00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:55,325 That one, he's like the best artist in Winston‐Salem. 836 00:41:55,325 --> 00:42:00,164 ♪ 837 00:42:00,164 --> 00:42:02,124 This is a good buddy of mine. 838 00:42:02,124 --> 00:42:15,721 ♪ 839 00:42:15,721 --> 00:42:21,268 I feel really sad that I've lost someone that I cared about. 840 00:42:21,268 --> 00:42:25,105 But, and it's‐‐ not just lost that he did this, 841 00:42:25,105 --> 00:42:27,566 but lost completely to me that he did do this, 842 00:42:27,566 --> 00:42:30,360 you know what I mean. Like, áááá him. 843 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,282 ♪ 844 00:42:35,282 --> 00:42:37,576 His life's over. 845 00:42:37,576 --> 00:42:39,953 I know his, I know his life's over. 846 00:42:39,953 --> 00:42:42,915 He's suffering, but at least he's not dead because of me. 847 00:42:42,915 --> 00:42:56,887 ♪ 848 00:42:56,887 --> 00:42:58,597 He was charged with murder in connection 849 00:42:58,597 --> 00:43:02,059 with the deaths of two people. Now, Pazuzu Algarad is dead. 850 00:43:02,059 --> 00:43:04,228 Early this morning he was found unresponsive at the 851 00:43:04,228 --> 00:43:07,815 Central Prison in Raleigh, found with a wound on his arm. 852 00:43:07,815 --> 00:43:09,983 The State Department of Public Safety confirmed, 853 00:43:09,983 --> 00:43:12,236 calling it an apparent suicide. 854 00:43:12,236 --> 00:43:15,823 ♪ 855 00:43:15,823 --> 00:43:17,241 We have heard from corrections officers 856 00:43:17,241 --> 00:43:19,952 off‐the‐record and from other inmates that Pazuzu 857 00:43:19,952 --> 00:43:22,162 had been trying to bite through his arm. 858 00:43:22,162 --> 00:43:24,123 There was something about all the investigation 859 00:43:24,123 --> 00:43:25,791 they just didn't want us to know about. 860 00:43:30,003 --> 00:43:33,006 Very disturbing that Pazuzu's mother saw it happen, 861 00:43:33,006 --> 00:43:35,008 and proceeded to get ready for work. 862 00:43:35,008 --> 00:43:37,261 The government used me, the government ááááed me. 863 00:43:37,261 --> 00:43:38,679 I wanted to be the one to kill Pazuzu. 864 00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:40,389 (gunshot) 865 00:43:40,389 --> 00:43:42,641 Pazuzu's death does leave a lot of unanswered questions. 866 00:43:42,641 --> 00:43:44,351 And the people he left behind are now 867 00:43:44,351 --> 00:43:46,145 just left to pick up the pieces. 868 00:43:46,145 --> 00:43:48,355 It's like, I don't feel shit. I have PTSD. 869 00:43:48,355 --> 00:43:49,773 I drink. It helps me sleep. 870 00:43:49,773 --> 00:43:51,650 I hate being a junkie. 871 00:43:51,650 --> 00:43:53,902 I have to do shit that I really don't want to do. 66898

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