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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,439 --> 00:00:03,483 Around Winston‐Salem suburbs, 2 00:00:03,483 --> 00:00:06,236 people knew of a guy, John Lawson, 3 00:00:06,236 --> 00:00:08,321 who named himself Pazuzu. 4 00:00:08,321 --> 00:00:10,114 Jared wanted to know where his dad was. 5 00:00:10,114 --> 00:00:11,658 I just told him that, you know, 6 00:00:11,658 --> 00:00:13,952 he had gone away somewhere we hadn't heard from him. 7 00:00:13,952 --> 00:00:16,120 I went to the sheriff's department with a 8 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,665 voice recording and told them what I knew. 9 00:00:18,665 --> 00:00:21,709 I said, "You're gonna think I'm crazy, but I think 10 00:00:21,709 --> 00:00:24,879 my son's father is buried in this guy's backyard." 11 00:00:24,879 --> 00:00:26,714 We executed a search warrant, 12 00:00:26,714 --> 00:00:29,300 but at that time, there was no evidence 13 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:31,511 that we were able to find. 14 00:00:31,511 --> 00:00:32,887 So, she calls me and she said, 15 00:00:32,887 --> 00:00:34,347 "I'm part of the family now." 16 00:00:34,347 --> 00:00:35,974 This is some Charles Manson shit, you know. 17 00:00:35,974 --> 00:00:37,308 And she said, "We murdered a guy. 18 00:00:37,308 --> 00:00:39,018 We shot him in the head." 19 00:00:39,018 --> 00:00:41,271 This is how I know that there is a dead body in the backyard. 20 00:00:41,271 --> 00:00:43,815 (tapping fingers) 21 00:00:43,815 --> 00:00:53,825 ♪ 22 00:00:53,825 --> 00:01:03,626 ♪ 23 00:01:06,713 --> 00:01:08,756 Historical Ad: Tobacco capital of the world, 24 00:01:08,756 --> 00:01:11,801 Winston‐Salem. 25 00:01:11,801 --> 00:01:14,637 For Winston‐Salem, the old southern city which is the 26 00:01:14,637 --> 00:01:16,848 thriving center of trade and industry 27 00:01:16,848 --> 00:01:19,058 when the nation was born... 28 00:01:19,058 --> 00:01:21,436 Winston‐Salem is home to these men, 29 00:01:21,436 --> 00:01:24,230 Americans who have their roots deep in tradition and 30 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:28,234 are a vital part of the progress of the nation. 31 00:01:28,234 --> 00:01:31,946 Yes, Winston‐Salem, with its face to the future, 32 00:01:31,946 --> 00:01:34,991 is a good place in which to live. 33 00:01:34,991 --> 00:01:45,084 ♪ 34 00:01:45,084 --> 00:01:51,215 ♪ 35 00:01:51,215 --> 00:01:54,594 After human remains were found buried in Pazuzu's backyard, 36 00:01:54,594 --> 00:01:56,554 the news was mostly click‐bait headlines 37 00:01:56,554 --> 00:01:58,431 about devil worship and animal sacrifice, 38 00:01:58,431 --> 00:02:01,309 but I still had so many questions. 39 00:02:01,309 --> 00:02:04,312 Everybody knew this guy was into some scary stuff, 40 00:02:04,312 --> 00:02:06,272 so how was it he was able to get away with murder 41 00:02:06,272 --> 00:02:07,899 for more than five years? 42 00:02:07,899 --> 00:02:09,734 ♪ 43 00:02:09,734 --> 00:02:11,194 There were a lot of rumors flying around, 44 00:02:11,194 --> 00:02:13,655 but the more I learned, the more I realized his ability 45 00:02:13,655 --> 00:02:17,825 to get away with this had less to do with satanic powers... 46 00:02:17,825 --> 00:02:20,078 And everything to do with where he was from. 47 00:02:20,078 --> 00:02:26,376 ♪ 48 00:02:26,376 --> 00:02:30,046 Clemmons, North Carolina is in the southwest part 49 00:02:30,046 --> 00:02:31,756 of Forsyth County. 50 00:02:31,756 --> 00:02:33,800 It would be, what would, may be considered 51 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,385 a bedroom community. 52 00:02:35,385 --> 00:02:37,720 There's two major thoroughfares from 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,973 Winston‐Salem to Clemmons, and back. 54 00:02:40,973 --> 00:02:44,018 It would be considered a suburb of the larger city of 55 00:02:44,018 --> 00:02:46,729 Winston‐Salem, which is the predominant larger city 56 00:02:46,729 --> 00:02:48,815 of Forsyth County. 57 00:02:48,815 --> 00:02:53,319 ♪ 58 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:57,156 If you're looking for the ugly truth... 59 00:02:57,156 --> 00:02:59,617 the underbelly... 60 00:02:59,617 --> 00:03:04,706 the black root of corrupted culture, 61 00:03:04,706 --> 00:03:09,752 where you do go are places like the exurbs and the suburbs, 62 00:03:09,752 --> 00:03:12,547 where the economy has been hit especially hard. 63 00:03:12,547 --> 00:03:17,218 ♪ 64 00:03:17,218 --> 00:03:20,096 It used to be you could to work here straight out of 65 00:03:20,096 --> 00:03:21,931 high school and be able to afford the quote, unquote, 66 00:03:21,931 --> 00:03:24,100 American dream. 67 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:27,353 Jobs that those folks can get are no longer here. 68 00:03:27,353 --> 00:03:29,188 There's no opportunities, 69 00:03:29,188 --> 00:03:31,274 and what do you do when you despair? 70 00:03:31,274 --> 00:03:34,026 You party like a monster, you know, you throw down. 71 00:03:34,026 --> 00:03:37,488 You, you, you create drama around yourself. 72 00:03:37,488 --> 00:03:39,282 Right now in Winston‐Salem, there's like a 73 00:03:39,282 --> 00:03:42,577 couple generations in there, they tell you, "I'm bored". 74 00:03:42,577 --> 00:03:44,036 You look at these guys' Facebook pages: 75 00:03:44,036 --> 00:03:47,331 "I'm bored. What up? Anybody doing anything?" 76 00:03:47,331 --> 00:03:49,459 This kind of boredom and malaise is kind of 77 00:03:49,459 --> 00:03:52,795 laid over the place. 78 00:03:52,795 --> 00:03:55,173 We have unemployed youth kind of drifting around with 79 00:03:55,173 --> 00:03:57,967 no direction, and kind of no real purpose. 80 00:03:57,967 --> 00:04:04,640 ♪ 81 00:04:08,227 --> 00:04:10,980 There's not a whole lot to do in this town. 82 00:04:17,361 --> 00:04:20,990 The best way I can find to enjoy myself, 83 00:04:20,990 --> 00:04:23,367 to kill the boredom and, you know, 84 00:04:23,367 --> 00:04:26,412 just the pain that I didn't even realize was there, 85 00:04:26,412 --> 00:04:29,957 was drugs. 86 00:04:29,957 --> 00:04:33,878 Even when I found heroin, it really was always an escape. 87 00:04:33,878 --> 00:04:39,217 But, it quickly becomes a requirement. 88 00:04:39,217 --> 00:04:43,095 You know, it's... it's all‐encompassing. 89 00:04:43,095 --> 00:04:46,974 My mom needs her iPad back and I kind of pawned it 90 00:04:46,974 --> 00:04:49,060 the other day, so I'm trying to get the money 91 00:04:49,060 --> 00:04:52,313 to get that out, you know. 92 00:04:52,313 --> 00:04:54,732 A, just do the right thing and get it back to her. 93 00:04:54,732 --> 00:04:58,236 But, B, to avoid her calling the cops. 94 00:04:58,236 --> 00:05:00,404 And... also, we're just, you know, 95 00:05:00,404 --> 00:05:05,034 trying to get money for our fix. 96 00:05:05,034 --> 00:05:08,955 ♪ 97 00:05:08,955 --> 00:05:11,332 Pazuzu provided an escape from the hopelessness and 98 00:05:11,332 --> 00:05:13,876 aimlessness in these kids' lives. 99 00:05:13,876 --> 00:05:16,796 He made them all vulnerable to the worst parts of themselves, 100 00:05:16,796 --> 00:05:18,506 and then, he harnessed that energy and 101 00:05:18,506 --> 00:05:22,134 kind of used it to create a following. 102 00:05:22,134 --> 00:05:25,388 His aura is very intoxicating. 103 00:05:25,388 --> 00:05:29,475 You just feel free and powerful in his presence. 104 00:05:29,475 --> 00:05:36,357 ♪ 105 00:05:36,357 --> 00:05:39,944 There's something... 106 00:05:39,944 --> 00:05:43,990 spiritually different about that place, 107 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:46,951 and... about him. 108 00:05:46,951 --> 00:05:48,953 ♪ 109 00:05:48,953 --> 00:05:53,833 He controlled by subtle manipulation. 110 00:05:53,833 --> 00:05:58,921 Y'all worship law and order; I'm gonna be an anarchist. 111 00:05:58,921 --> 00:06:01,007 Y'all want to dress all preppy the way that 112 00:06:01,007 --> 00:06:02,592 everybody else does, well, 113 00:06:02,592 --> 00:06:06,637 I'm gonna take it to the other extreme. 114 00:06:06,637 --> 00:06:09,390 File my teeth down to points, and, you know, 115 00:06:09,390 --> 00:06:13,477 get tattoos all over my face. 116 00:06:13,477 --> 00:06:18,065 In a way, the guy's a ing lunatic genius. Ha! 117 00:06:20,151 --> 00:06:28,284 (bells chiming) 118 00:06:28,284 --> 00:06:31,037 Clemmons is a place in Winston‐Salem where 119 00:06:31,037 --> 00:06:32,705 everyone goes to church, 120 00:06:32,705 --> 00:06:34,874 everyone identifies with the church. 121 00:06:34,874 --> 00:06:36,834 So, he became the devil. He became a 122 00:06:36,834 --> 00:06:40,463 quote, unquote, Satanist. 123 00:06:40,463 --> 00:06:42,632 Even the name, Pazuzu, I mean, come on, 124 00:06:42,632 --> 00:06:46,177 it's the name of the demon in The Exorcist. 125 00:06:46,177 --> 00:06:48,179 What is the biggest, scariest thing? It's Satan. 126 00:06:48,179 --> 00:06:50,681 It's the devil, el diablo, the fallen one, 127 00:06:50,681 --> 00:06:53,225 Lucifer, Pazuzu. 128 00:06:53,225 --> 00:06:56,187 I mean, these people believe in this stuff. 129 00:06:56,187 --> 00:06:58,064 Lawson trolled pop culture and kind of 130 00:06:58,064 --> 00:07:00,608 came up with this persona. 131 00:07:00,608 --> 00:07:02,151 It's a little mixture of Manson, 132 00:07:02,151 --> 00:07:04,362 throw in a little Anton LaVey, 133 00:07:04,362 --> 00:07:08,282 a little 1980s heavy metal, you know, 666 type stuff. 134 00:07:08,282 --> 00:07:10,368 And there you go. And then, 135 00:07:10,368 --> 00:07:13,496 when 9/11 came, he put on a jihadi mask. 136 00:07:13,496 --> 00:07:14,664 It was as if he was trying to be 137 00:07:14,664 --> 00:07:16,791 what people were afraid of. 138 00:07:16,791 --> 00:07:18,584 You know, it made it powerful. 139 00:07:18,584 --> 00:07:20,544 And it seems like there were some young women 140 00:07:20,544 --> 00:07:24,757 who were particularly susceptible to his persona. 141 00:07:24,757 --> 00:07:27,927 Pazuzu dated a lot of girls, 142 00:07:27,927 --> 00:07:32,723 and he apparently had sex with a lot more. 143 00:07:32,723 --> 00:07:38,646 I think the majority of his power came from the same place, 144 00:07:38,646 --> 00:07:42,316 the same reason that we were all there... 145 00:07:42,316 --> 00:07:44,527 That little bit of darkness that 146 00:07:44,527 --> 00:07:48,447 we all kind of gravitated towards. 147 00:07:48,447 --> 00:07:51,158 ♪ 148 00:07:51,158 --> 00:07:53,285 All of his women are very young. 149 00:07:53,285 --> 00:07:55,371 And, a lot of them are get‐‐ 150 00:07:55,371 --> 00:07:57,373 are going through terrible times. 151 00:07:57,373 --> 00:07:59,750 Amber Burch is the best example. 152 00:07:59,750 --> 00:08:01,877 You know, I mean, here's a girl who's just out of high school. 153 00:08:01,877 --> 00:08:04,797 She hooks up with Pazuzu, and a few short months later, 154 00:08:04,797 --> 00:08:07,174 she's helping him dispose of a body. 155 00:08:07,174 --> 00:08:09,051 But why? 156 00:08:09,051 --> 00:08:11,137 What was it about Pazuzu that these women 157 00:08:11,137 --> 00:08:14,974 would sacrifice their futures for him? 158 00:08:14,974 --> 00:08:17,685 He was the daddy she never had, 159 00:08:17,685 --> 00:08:21,731 the daddy that she had been looking for. 160 00:08:21,731 --> 00:08:24,942 My name is Cadie Wagner‐Davis. 161 00:08:24,942 --> 00:08:26,610 And, I met Amber in high school. 162 00:08:26,610 --> 00:08:29,739 We were the best friends. 163 00:08:29,739 --> 00:08:31,574 In no time, I saw my best friend 164 00:08:31,574 --> 00:08:35,494 do a complete and total 180. 165 00:08:35,494 --> 00:08:39,248 One day she's our Bubbles, the next day she's... 166 00:08:39,248 --> 00:08:42,334 not showering, and... 167 00:08:42,334 --> 00:08:46,130 shaving all of her eyebrows off, and... 168 00:08:46,130 --> 00:08:48,257 filing her teeth down to points so that she could 169 00:08:48,257 --> 00:08:50,885 bite into these animals, and... 170 00:08:50,885 --> 00:08:53,554 and just... no. 171 00:08:53,554 --> 00:08:57,266 ♪ 172 00:08:57,266 --> 00:08:59,393 Whenever I first really started hearing about Pazuzu, 173 00:08:59,393 --> 00:09:02,104 we got a few phone calls from her, 174 00:09:02,104 --> 00:09:04,106 telling me that, you know, she really likes this guy, 175 00:09:04,106 --> 00:09:07,651 he's really cool, he's a Satanist. 176 00:09:07,651 --> 00:09:11,405 She would talk about these rituals, I guess. 177 00:09:11,405 --> 00:09:16,410 Pazuzu would kill an animal and drink the blood. 178 00:09:16,410 --> 00:09:19,121 I know that they would cut each other open and 179 00:09:19,121 --> 00:09:21,165 drink each other's blood. 180 00:09:21,165 --> 00:09:29,256 ♪ 181 00:09:29,256 --> 00:09:30,674 She made it so exciting. You know, 182 00:09:30,674 --> 00:09:32,176 "Hey, I'm gonna come pick you up. 183 00:09:32,176 --> 00:09:34,303 We're gonna come up here and I want you to meet Pazuzu. 184 00:09:34,303 --> 00:09:37,014 I want your opinion on him." 185 00:09:37,014 --> 00:09:40,559 Said, "Okay, well, that's cool." 186 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,395 We get up there and everything was fine 187 00:09:43,395 --> 00:09:46,524 until I walked onto the front porch. 188 00:09:46,524 --> 00:09:50,361 The stench just, it was like a smack to the face 189 00:09:50,361 --> 00:09:54,448 it was so strong. 190 00:09:54,448 --> 00:09:57,785 The first thing I ever said to Pazuzu when I met him was, 191 00:09:57,785 --> 00:10:02,998 "Dude, your house smells like death." 192 00:10:02,998 --> 00:10:04,625 And he kinda laughed, "Oh, yeah, 193 00:10:04,625 --> 00:10:06,752 it's just the bodies in the basement." 194 00:10:06,752 --> 00:10:13,134 ♪ 195 00:10:15,344 --> 00:10:18,264 This sucks. 196 00:10:18,264 --> 00:10:19,557 (dog barks) 197 00:10:19,557 --> 00:10:21,183 Come on. 198 00:10:21,183 --> 00:10:22,351 I don't think Dixie would have gotten herself involved 199 00:10:22,351 --> 00:10:24,854 in a murder if it wasn't for Pazuzu or Amber. 200 00:10:24,854 --> 00:10:27,439 I think the murder turned her into a different person. 201 00:10:27,439 --> 00:10:35,698 ♪ 202 00:10:35,698 --> 00:10:37,283 ‐ There we go. ‐ (engine sputters) 203 00:10:37,283 --> 00:10:38,576 Give it another one. 204 00:10:38,576 --> 00:10:42,246 (engine sputters) 205 00:10:42,246 --> 00:10:46,000 Crazy thing is, after she told me the story... 206 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,878 I went to the police and filed an anonymous report. 207 00:10:48,878 --> 00:10:51,130 (engine revving) 208 00:10:51,130 --> 00:10:54,508 (engine sputters) 209 00:10:54,508 --> 00:10:56,385 I wrote it all out: everything about Pazuzu, 210 00:10:56,385 --> 00:11:00,598 everything about Amber. I left her name out of it though. 211 00:11:00,598 --> 00:11:02,057 You know, I didn't put in there that she helped 212 00:11:02,057 --> 00:11:03,809 bury this body. 213 00:11:03,809 --> 00:11:06,020 But, in detail, I put every single thing ‐ 214 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:07,646 where the body was buried, everything. 215 00:11:07,646 --> 00:11:19,325 (motorcycle rumbling) 216 00:11:19,325 --> 00:11:23,621 I found out about the search because Pazuzu called me. 217 00:11:23,621 --> 00:11:24,747 They actually showed up to his house, 218 00:11:24,747 --> 00:11:27,041 SWAT Team, like battle rattle, like, 219 00:11:27,041 --> 00:11:28,375 they're ready to rock, you know what I mean? 220 00:11:28,375 --> 00:11:29,877 (coughs) 221 00:11:29,877 --> 00:11:32,171 Pazuzu told me they knocked on the door. 222 00:11:32,171 --> 00:11:33,839 He looks out the ing peep hole and there's 223 00:11:33,839 --> 00:11:37,801 dudes with like flak vests, machine guns and shit, you know. 224 00:11:37,801 --> 00:11:39,136 They go into the house, they're searching, 225 00:11:39,136 --> 00:11:40,638 they're not finding shit. 226 00:11:40,638 --> 00:11:44,099 (revving motorcycle) 227 00:11:44,099 --> 00:11:45,976 (engine sputters) 228 00:11:45,976 --> 00:11:48,145 How incompetent, that CSI Miami bullshit. 229 00:11:48,145 --> 00:11:50,648 It's ing garbage, dude. 230 00:11:50,648 --> 00:11:53,567 Nothing ing happened. 231 00:11:53,567 --> 00:11:54,985 Come on. 232 00:11:54,985 --> 00:11:59,448 ♪ 233 00:11:59,448 --> 00:12:00,991 They said that the devil worshipper 234 00:12:00,991 --> 00:12:04,161 kill on the full moon. 235 00:12:04,161 --> 00:12:07,373 And my son, lit a cigarette... 236 00:12:07,373 --> 00:12:09,541 and before he can light it, they shot him in his head 237 00:12:09,541 --> 00:12:10,668 and he fell dead. 238 00:12:10,668 --> 00:12:11,627 ♪ 239 00:12:14,922 --> 00:12:22,054 (crickets) 240 00:12:22,054 --> 00:12:23,806 So, the police search Pazuzu's house and 241 00:12:23,806 --> 00:12:25,683 they don't find anything. 242 00:12:25,683 --> 00:12:27,226 But instead of dialing it back, 243 00:12:27,226 --> 00:12:29,144 the behavior inside the house at Knob Hill becomes 244 00:12:29,144 --> 00:12:31,981 increasingly more violent. 245 00:12:31,981 --> 00:12:33,399 When we pull the rap sheets, 246 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:36,151 what you can see from there is that in May 2010, 247 00:12:36,151 --> 00:12:39,738 Pazuzu is arrested for choking his mom. 248 00:12:39,738 --> 00:12:42,992 Then, a little bit over a year later in September of 2011, 249 00:12:42,992 --> 00:12:44,910 Amber is arrested for pushing, choking, 250 00:12:44,910 --> 00:12:46,620 and slapping Cynthia. 251 00:12:46,620 --> 00:12:48,330 Then in November of 2011, 252 00:12:48,330 --> 00:12:51,000 Amber is arrested for slapping Pazuzu. 253 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,168 And clearly this place is becoming a powder keg 254 00:12:53,168 --> 00:12:55,129 and it's about to blow. 255 00:12:55,129 --> 00:13:03,470 (sirens) 256 00:13:03,470 --> 00:13:06,223 We responded to the residence on Knob Hill Drive, 257 00:13:06,223 --> 00:13:10,602 whereby the information was learned from 258 00:13:10,602 --> 00:13:12,438 witnesses and the, quote, victim, 259 00:13:12,438 --> 00:13:15,274 that he had assaulted his mother. 260 00:13:15,274 --> 00:13:18,986 I think that was by strangling, or choking her. 261 00:13:18,986 --> 00:13:21,530 And so, he was charged with, subsequently, 262 00:13:21,530 --> 00:13:25,451 I think his mother did not continue with the 263 00:13:25,451 --> 00:13:28,620 prosecution effort of that. 264 00:13:28,620 --> 00:13:31,832 Right after Pazuzu is let off on the assault on his mama, 265 00:13:31,832 --> 00:13:33,417 he went right back into the house, 266 00:13:33,417 --> 00:13:35,002 and then he starts recruiting other people to 267 00:13:35,002 --> 00:13:36,920 join in on his violence. 268 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:47,097 ♪ 269 00:13:47,097 --> 00:13:56,106 ♪ 270 00:13:56,106 --> 00:13:59,443 I do not believe it was an accident. 271 00:13:59,443 --> 00:14:03,405 He was chosen to be killed that night. 272 00:14:03,405 --> 00:14:06,241 ♪ 273 00:14:06,241 --> 00:14:09,870 My name is Shelia Chandler. 274 00:14:09,870 --> 00:14:13,457 I'm the mother of Joseph Chandler. 275 00:14:13,457 --> 00:14:18,420 Joseph is just a kind‐hearted person. 276 00:14:18,420 --> 00:14:22,174 He meets no strangers. 277 00:14:22,174 --> 00:14:23,801 He was walking when, I guess, 278 00:14:23,801 --> 00:14:25,928 when he got to the store. 279 00:14:25,928 --> 00:14:27,930 I don't know how the conversation started off 280 00:14:27,930 --> 00:14:33,685 with those two, Nicholas and the devil worshipper. 281 00:14:33,685 --> 00:14:38,065 ♪ 282 00:14:38,065 --> 00:14:42,986 I don't know why he got in that car with them. 283 00:14:42,986 --> 00:14:45,364 They said that the devil worshipper 284 00:14:45,364 --> 00:14:48,117 kill on the full moon. 285 00:14:48,117 --> 00:14:54,998 And when they drove him to Yadkin River, they said... 286 00:14:54,998 --> 00:14:58,710 The devil worshipper sat on the lake while Nicholas 287 00:14:58,710 --> 00:15:01,171 pulled out the shotgun and it jammed. 288 00:15:01,171 --> 00:15:06,009 ♪ 289 00:15:06,009 --> 00:15:12,141 And he went back to the car and got a gun. 290 00:15:12,141 --> 00:15:16,562 And my son lit a cigarette, and before he can light it, 291 00:15:16,562 --> 00:15:19,439 they shot him in his head and he fell dead. 292 00:15:19,439 --> 00:15:21,066 I said, "Why didn't they call the police 293 00:15:21,066 --> 00:15:24,403 if it was an accident?" 294 00:15:24,403 --> 00:15:30,325 I call it. They murdered my son. 295 00:15:30,325 --> 00:15:32,494 They did it intentionally. 296 00:15:32,494 --> 00:15:38,250 ♪ 297 00:15:38,250 --> 00:15:40,377 I just don't understand. 298 00:15:40,377 --> 00:15:50,429 ♪ 299 00:15:50,429 --> 00:16:01,023 ♪ 300 00:16:01,023 --> 00:16:04,610 I wanted to go to Pazuzu's plea, 301 00:16:04,610 --> 00:16:08,780 but they told me it was not necessary for me to be there. 302 00:16:08,780 --> 00:16:11,200 I didn't have to be there. 303 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,204 I said, "What?" And that was it. 304 00:16:15,204 --> 00:16:17,706 "We'll get you a transcript," and that's it. 305 00:16:17,706 --> 00:16:20,876 ♪ 306 00:16:20,876 --> 00:16:22,961 The way they kept dragging it on and saying, 307 00:16:22,961 --> 00:16:26,256 "We're not going to have this trial today. 308 00:16:26,256 --> 00:16:27,966 His lawyer hasn't got here yet..." 309 00:16:27,966 --> 00:16:30,469 They just kept giving me the runaround. 310 00:16:30,469 --> 00:16:32,346 And at the end of it all, 311 00:16:32,346 --> 00:16:35,515 they didn't tell me nothing about his trial. 312 00:16:35,515 --> 00:16:37,726 They just told me I didn't have to be there; 313 00:16:37,726 --> 00:16:42,397 that was it. I was uninvited, yes, I was. 314 00:16:42,397 --> 00:16:46,568 ♪ 315 00:17:14,137 --> 00:17:18,141 (birds chirping) 316 00:17:18,141 --> 00:17:20,686 So, what I'm looking at here is the psych evaluation 317 00:17:20,686 --> 00:17:24,856 from 2010 for Pazuzu I. Algarad 318 00:17:24,856 --> 00:17:27,025 that was made during the Chandler case, 319 00:17:27,025 --> 00:17:29,152 when he was held in as an accessory for that. 320 00:17:29,152 --> 00:17:31,446 He was ordered to go to Dorothea Dix in Raleigh. 321 00:17:31,446 --> 00:17:44,376 ♪ 322 00:17:44,376 --> 00:17:46,295 And I mean, this very clearly states that this kid 323 00:17:46,295 --> 00:17:47,921 has had a long history of real mental illness and 324 00:17:47,921 --> 00:17:50,632 psychotic symptoms. 325 00:17:50,632 --> 00:17:52,467 He'd been hospitalized several times already 326 00:17:52,467 --> 00:17:53,885 by the time all of this unfolded, 327 00:17:53,885 --> 00:17:58,015 going all the way back to his childhood. 328 00:17:58,015 --> 00:18:00,434 We're talking about a guy who went into 329 00:18:00,434 --> 00:18:05,606 his psychologist interview smelling like poop and 330 00:18:05,606 --> 00:18:08,692 apparently hadn't bathed in over a year at that point. 331 00:18:08,692 --> 00:18:12,029 ♪ 332 00:18:12,029 --> 00:18:13,655 He talks about the fact that at some point he had 333 00:18:13,655 --> 00:18:18,577 used something to sharpen his teeth. 334 00:18:18,577 --> 00:18:20,537 Yeah, "Mr. Algarad reported that he was unemployed at 335 00:18:20,537 --> 00:18:21,955 the time of the alleged offense and has not worked 336 00:18:21,955 --> 00:18:24,666 in several years, receiving SSI disability because of 337 00:18:24,666 --> 00:18:26,627 his problems being nervous and paranoid 338 00:18:26,627 --> 00:18:30,797 when outside of his house." 339 00:18:30,797 --> 00:18:32,924 He describes being part of a Sumerian religion, 340 00:18:32,924 --> 00:18:35,135 which he admits that he made up, 341 00:18:35,135 --> 00:18:37,596 that he and his wife are the only practitioners. 342 00:18:37,596 --> 00:18:40,474 He needs to get out to do an animal sacrifice 343 00:18:40,474 --> 00:18:45,145 so he doesn't feel further anxiety, I guess. 344 00:18:45,145 --> 00:18:47,356 His mother, Cynthia, tells the psychiatrist that 345 00:18:47,356 --> 00:18:49,107 she's afraid he might kill himself if he's not allowed 346 00:18:49,107 --> 00:18:51,485 to perform this animal sacrifice. 347 00:18:51,485 --> 00:18:53,695 I mean, this definitely paints a picture of a very sick guy, 348 00:18:53,695 --> 00:18:55,781 and the doctors actually diagnosed him with 349 00:18:55,781 --> 00:18:57,741 Schizotypal Personality Disorder, 350 00:18:57,741 --> 00:19:00,952 which basically means the guy is clinically psychotic. 351 00:19:00,952 --> 00:19:02,746 I mean, it was clear to everyone that this was an 352 00:19:02,746 --> 00:19:05,290 individual who needed serious supervised 353 00:19:05,290 --> 00:19:08,585 mental health treatment. 354 00:19:08,585 --> 00:19:11,296 ♪ 355 00:19:31,942 --> 00:19:37,531 ♪ 356 00:19:37,531 --> 00:19:39,616 So, the guy walks out of the courtroom in Forsyth County 357 00:19:39,616 --> 00:19:41,493 with basically a slap on the wrist, 358 00:19:41,493 --> 00:19:43,620 into the community where me and my children live. 359 00:19:43,620 --> 00:19:45,997 So this guy is now out here roaming around where we live, 360 00:19:45,997 --> 00:19:47,833 and we know all this stuff about him from the 361 00:19:47,833 --> 00:19:49,751 fact that he's murdered and tortured animals, 362 00:19:49,751 --> 00:19:52,421 he's admitted to being a chronic drug and alcohol abuser, 363 00:19:52,421 --> 00:19:54,339 and he's admitted to multiple levels of mental illness 364 00:19:54,339 --> 00:19:56,925 that's barely going treated... 365 00:19:56,925 --> 00:19:58,593 And, he's assaulted his mother and choked her 366 00:19:58,593 --> 00:20:00,220 to the point where she passes out, 367 00:20:00,220 --> 00:20:01,638 but we're gonna let him out the door. 368 00:20:01,638 --> 00:20:02,848 We're gonna open the doors and let him back out into 369 00:20:02,848 --> 00:20:04,516 society because it's clear that the only way 370 00:20:04,516 --> 00:20:06,351 to fix this is, let him into the community. 371 00:20:06,351 --> 00:20:09,730 ♪ 372 00:20:09,730 --> 00:20:12,357 Jenna Woodring smiling, even laughing in the 373 00:20:12,357 --> 00:20:15,819 back seat of a patrol car just hours after the accident. 374 00:20:15,819 --> 00:20:17,279 Were you in an accident this morning? 375 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:18,613 No, sir. 376 00:20:18,613 --> 00:20:20,323 ♪ 377 00:20:26,121 --> 00:20:28,248 After Pazuzu's sentence is suspended for 378 00:20:28,248 --> 00:20:30,375 his involvement in the death of Joseph Chandler, 379 00:20:30,375 --> 00:20:33,003 which basically means he gets time served and a warning, 380 00:20:33,003 --> 00:20:35,756 things around his house seem to calm down. 381 00:20:35,756 --> 00:20:36,965 But meanwhile, there are a whole bunch of other kids 382 00:20:36,965 --> 00:20:38,508 in this town that were struggling; 383 00:20:38,508 --> 00:20:41,470 they're down on life, unemployed, aimless, 384 00:20:41,470 --> 00:20:43,555 and they're getting addicted to drugs. 385 00:20:43,555 --> 00:20:44,973 And I mean, they're not chopping up people and 386 00:20:44,973 --> 00:20:46,349 putting them in the backyard, 387 00:20:46,349 --> 00:20:48,226 but they're definitely causing harm to themselves 388 00:20:48,226 --> 00:20:49,811 and to other people, 389 00:20:49,811 --> 00:20:51,980 and no one is really doing anything about it. 390 00:20:51,980 --> 00:21:00,530 ♪ 391 00:21:00,530 --> 00:21:02,866 Jenna Woodring, smiling, even laughing, 392 00:21:02,866 --> 00:21:04,576 in the back seat of a patrol car, 393 00:21:04,576 --> 00:21:06,703 just hours after the accident. 394 00:21:06,703 --> 00:21:08,079 Were you in an accident this morning? 395 00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:09,748 No, sir. 396 00:21:09,748 --> 00:21:12,000 Scott Curtis had nothing to say today as he left 397 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,794 the Mecklenburg County Courthouse. 398 00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:15,545 He had just come face‐to‐face with 399 00:21:15,545 --> 00:21:18,882 26‐year‐old Jenna Woodring for the first time. 400 00:21:18,882 --> 00:21:22,260 She hit him in July of 2012 as he was riding his bike 401 00:21:22,260 --> 00:21:24,054 on Brown Grier Road in Charlotte, 402 00:21:24,054 --> 00:21:25,722 and then kept going. 403 00:21:25,722 --> 00:21:27,307 She didn't remember the crash then, 404 00:21:27,307 --> 00:21:29,184 and still doesn't now. 405 00:21:29,184 --> 00:21:31,394 Woodring's attorney says she's bipolar and suffers 406 00:21:31,394 --> 00:21:36,483 from borderline personality disorder. 407 00:21:36,483 --> 00:21:39,027 I disassociated and got in my car and hit 408 00:21:39,027 --> 00:21:43,281 a guy on a bicycle and almost killed him. 409 00:21:43,281 --> 00:21:48,203 He's now a paraplegic with brain damage, so, I have... 410 00:21:48,203 --> 00:21:51,414 seven years, total, of probation. 411 00:21:51,414 --> 00:21:58,338 And, if I violate by doing anything illegal, 412 00:21:58,338 --> 00:22:02,425 I get sent to prison for five to seven years. 413 00:22:02,425 --> 00:22:04,803 So, I can't go out and do the illegal activities that 414 00:22:04,803 --> 00:22:07,389 me and Nate are doing to get the money. 415 00:22:07,389 --> 00:22:12,227 ♪ 416 00:22:12,227 --> 00:22:22,195 ♪ (phone: on hold) ♪ 417 00:22:22,195 --> 00:22:24,030 (indistinct phone message) 418 00:22:24,030 --> 00:22:28,952 Nate: (scoffs) Jenna: Yes, welcome to our life. 419 00:22:28,952 --> 00:22:33,456 ♪ (phone: on hold) ♪ 420 00:22:33,456 --> 00:22:35,041 Phone: How can I help you? 421 00:22:35,041 --> 00:22:38,378 Ah, I was actually calling‐‐ I recently applied for 422 00:22:38,378 --> 00:22:43,049 food stamps and had to go through a wish appointment to, 423 00:22:43,049 --> 00:22:45,176 you know, 'cause of the drug felony I have. 424 00:22:45,176 --> 00:22:49,139 And, I did that last Wednesday at about 12 o'clock, 425 00:22:49,139 --> 00:22:51,683 and I still haven't gotten any food stamps on my card. 426 00:22:51,683 --> 00:22:53,768 I was wondering if there's any way I could figure that out? 427 00:22:53,768 --> 00:22:56,605 You just have to wait for her to process it. 428 00:22:56,605 --> 00:22:58,523 (phone ringing) 429 00:22:58,523 --> 00:23:01,359 ‐ Hi. ‐ Hey... 430 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,154 How's it going? 431 00:23:04,154 --> 00:23:06,907 I still don't have my food stamps on my card. 432 00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:08,825 So, y'all don't have any food? 433 00:23:08,825 --> 00:23:10,368 No... 434 00:23:10,368 --> 00:23:14,372 We have pistachio thin addictives... 435 00:23:14,372 --> 00:23:17,292 Additives. They're crackers. 436 00:23:17,292 --> 00:23:19,294 Yeah, Nate didn't cut any yards or anything? 437 00:23:19,294 --> 00:23:21,755 No, well, it's been raining this past week, 438 00:23:21,755 --> 00:23:23,465 so he wasn't able to do that. 439 00:23:23,465 --> 00:23:25,675 He does have a few job leads though, 440 00:23:25,675 --> 00:23:27,636 that he's waiting on a phone call for. 441 00:23:27,636 --> 00:23:29,846 No, okay. I mean, I'll... 442 00:23:29,846 --> 00:23:34,059 I'll get you some money. Buh‐bye. 443 00:23:34,059 --> 00:23:37,437 (Laughs) 444 00:23:37,437 --> 00:23:41,441 ‐ All right. ‐ So... 445 00:23:41,441 --> 00:23:44,069 It'll probably be at least fifty bucks. 446 00:23:50,283 --> 00:23:52,619 I go to rehab. Me and Nate meet, 447 00:23:52,619 --> 00:23:55,580 and after we got out of rehab‐‐ 448 00:23:55,580 --> 00:23:57,666 Well, I got kicked out, but... 449 00:23:57,666 --> 00:23:59,417 I gave him my phone number. And when he left, 450 00:23:59,417 --> 00:24:03,713 he called me and we ended up hooking up. 451 00:24:03,713 --> 00:24:07,676 Part of the reason that I need a partner in crime, 452 00:24:07,676 --> 00:24:10,887 I guess, was because Nate does all the dirty work. 453 00:24:10,887 --> 00:24:14,015 Like, I'm on really good terms with my PO and 454 00:24:14,015 --> 00:24:15,809 I didn't want to screw that up, 455 00:24:15,809 --> 00:24:19,729 and if I do screw up, I go to prison for five years, 456 00:24:19,729 --> 00:24:21,648 five to seven years, technically. 457 00:24:21,648 --> 00:24:24,859 ♪ 458 00:24:24,859 --> 00:24:27,946 The system's really just broken. 459 00:24:27,946 --> 00:24:30,073 You have Pazuzu and his posse committing crimes that 460 00:24:30,073 --> 00:24:31,783 seriously affect everyone around them, 461 00:24:31,783 --> 00:24:33,994 but they're just right back out on the streets. 462 00:24:33,994 --> 00:24:35,662 But non‐violent crimes, 463 00:24:35,662 --> 00:24:37,706 like having a bag of pot or mushrooms in your pocket, 464 00:24:37,706 --> 00:24:39,582 those lead to felony convictions. 465 00:24:39,582 --> 00:24:42,669 It fills up prisons and totally ruins lives. 466 00:24:42,669 --> 00:24:45,171 I mean, we have got to get our priorities straight. 467 00:24:45,171 --> 00:24:47,090 ♪ 468 00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:50,051 He takes a fire poker and he sticks it in like... 469 00:24:50,051 --> 00:24:53,221 meat, and he pulls the meat back and he's like, 470 00:24:53,221 --> 00:24:55,974 and he bit it. 471 00:24:55,974 --> 00:24:57,726 He's like, "Satan protects me". 472 00:24:57,726 --> 00:24:58,560 ♪ 473 00:25:02,522 --> 00:25:08,862 (birds chirping) 474 00:25:08,862 --> 00:25:13,491 I haven't been back here in a long time. 475 00:25:13,491 --> 00:25:16,369 So this is... 476 00:25:16,369 --> 00:25:19,873 the property that Josh and I bought. 477 00:25:19,873 --> 00:25:23,376 Our idea was to have a horse farm here. 478 00:25:23,376 --> 00:25:27,338 Josh and I lived... There's a house right here. 479 00:25:27,338 --> 00:25:31,968 You can see the roof of it from here. 480 00:25:31,968 --> 00:25:33,553 The bank foreclosed on it, 481 00:25:33,553 --> 00:25:35,680 so another family is living there now. 482 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,518 ♪ 483 00:25:40,518 --> 00:25:43,063 Being out here, it brings back memories and 484 00:25:43,063 --> 00:25:46,316 some of them are so beautiful, and you know, 485 00:25:46,316 --> 00:25:49,319 I think of friends and parties we had out here, 486 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:54,282 and our life and the horses... 487 00:25:54,282 --> 00:25:56,326 I still feel close to Josh and, you know, 488 00:25:56,326 --> 00:25:59,746 sometimes I'll still have dreams that we're together. 489 00:25:59,746 --> 00:26:01,623 I think everything continues. 490 00:26:01,623 --> 00:26:03,333 You know, we have memories of things; 491 00:26:03,333 --> 00:26:05,043 that's part of life and that's part of reality, 492 00:26:05,043 --> 00:26:08,671 and that's part of who we are... 493 00:26:08,671 --> 00:26:14,302 For a long time we were Josh and Stacey. 494 00:26:14,302 --> 00:26:16,971 So, for‐‐ When I'm here, yeah, 495 00:26:16,971 --> 00:26:19,682 I'm sort of feeling that part. 496 00:26:19,682 --> 00:26:27,023 ♪ 497 00:26:27,023 --> 00:26:29,901 When I was a kid, I had this recurring dream and 498 00:26:29,901 --> 00:26:33,530 it tormented me. 499 00:26:33,530 --> 00:26:38,118 I would go down into some passage way to 500 00:26:38,118 --> 00:26:42,122 this place underneath the house. 501 00:26:42,122 --> 00:26:44,999 And, there was something, I guess, 502 00:26:44,999 --> 00:26:49,129 evil is a good word to describe what was happening there, and... 503 00:26:49,129 --> 00:26:52,715 and people were getting, like, taken in, and even... 504 00:26:52,715 --> 00:26:55,885 a kid that I knew, you know, was pulled in, 505 00:26:55,885 --> 00:26:58,680 and, and awful things were happening. 506 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,099 And it was terrifying. 507 00:27:01,099 --> 00:27:11,484 ♪ 508 00:27:11,484 --> 00:27:15,905 And I would go upstairs and I would try to tell my, 509 00:27:15,905 --> 00:27:17,657 my parents about it, what was going on, 510 00:27:17,657 --> 00:27:19,367 and they didn't listen. 511 00:27:19,367 --> 00:27:22,203 Just kept trying to tell people... 512 00:27:22,203 --> 00:27:25,957 And nobody would listen to me. 513 00:27:25,957 --> 00:27:29,210 I never understood that dream when I was a kid, 514 00:27:29,210 --> 00:27:31,880 but now I think I get it. 515 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,215 ♪ 516 00:27:34,215 --> 00:27:35,592 (dog barking) 517 00:27:41,639 --> 00:27:43,600 ♪ (electric guitar) ♪ 518 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,101 (indistinct speaking) 519 00:27:45,101 --> 00:27:53,860 ♪ (electric guitar) ♪ 520 00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:55,945 Ah, does this work? 521 00:27:55,945 --> 00:27:59,032 Huh? What? Yeah. 522 00:27:59,032 --> 00:28:01,159 When I got back to Winston, I was talking to my friend, 523 00:28:01,159 --> 00:28:04,037 and he told me that if whatever I said about Pazuzu 524 00:28:04,037 --> 00:28:06,664 really had happened, if I didn't do something about it, 525 00:28:06,664 --> 00:28:09,751 I was just as bad as him. 526 00:28:09,751 --> 00:28:11,085 Like, I keep thinking about it, 527 00:28:11,085 --> 00:28:12,170 and thinking about it, and thinking about it. 528 00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:13,296 Like, it sat there, rotted in my brain 529 00:28:13,296 --> 00:28:15,840 for years, and years, and years. 530 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,385 Long time, you know. That there's a body in the yard. 531 00:28:19,385 --> 00:28:22,180 I was like, maybe there's really not. Like, this is bullshit. 532 00:28:22,180 --> 00:28:25,850 And it put like this drive in me to really do something about it. 533 00:28:25,850 --> 00:28:29,020 ♪ (electric guitar) ♪ 534 00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:30,563 About every two or three weeks, 535 00:28:30,563 --> 00:28:32,649 I would just go hang out with Pazuzu, 536 00:28:32,649 --> 00:28:36,319 like check to make sure he wasn't harming anybody. 537 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,488 In fact, I went to his house, 538 00:28:38,488 --> 00:28:42,200 and he's drunk, right. 539 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,452 We're sitting by the fireplace and he takes 540 00:28:44,452 --> 00:28:46,496 a fire poker, and he's looking at me. 541 00:28:46,496 --> 00:28:48,623 And he knows at this time that I turned him in. 542 00:28:48,623 --> 00:28:50,959 He said, "You know what," he's like, 543 00:28:50,959 --> 00:28:53,336 "I know you turned me in, but you're my brother." 544 00:28:53,336 --> 00:28:56,255 He's like, "Just know this, I can never be caught," 545 00:28:56,255 --> 00:28:58,257 and he takes a fire poker and he puts it 546 00:28:58,257 --> 00:29:03,888 behind the fire wood and he sticks it in, like, meat. 547 00:29:03,888 --> 00:29:06,015 And he pulls the meat back and he's like, 548 00:29:06,015 --> 00:29:07,976 and he bit it... 549 00:29:07,976 --> 00:29:10,061 And he's like, "Satan protects me." 550 00:29:10,061 --> 00:29:12,605 ♪ 551 00:29:12,605 --> 00:29:14,816 For all I know, it was a dead rabbit that he killed, or, 552 00:29:14,816 --> 00:29:16,359 a piece of human flesh that he ate. 553 00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:18,277 I don't know. 554 00:29:18,277 --> 00:29:21,990 He was really fast and clever. He could manipulate someone. 555 00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:24,325 I mean, I'm not saying that's good clever, you know. 556 00:29:24,325 --> 00:29:26,661 He talked about how he believed he was a demon, 557 00:29:26,661 --> 00:29:28,579 and he had like power, mind control 558 00:29:28,579 --> 00:29:30,581 or whatever over people. 559 00:29:30,581 --> 00:29:33,543 He tried to push people into killing people. 560 00:29:33,543 --> 00:29:36,087 I think Pazuzu wanted killing to be, like, 561 00:29:36,087 --> 00:29:38,381 some initiation, but... 562 00:29:38,381 --> 00:29:41,634 Most people aren't murderers. 563 00:29:41,634 --> 00:29:44,721 There was this, like, really jacked dude in his house. 564 00:29:44,721 --> 00:29:48,558 Like, this guy was cut as . It was his mom, Pazuzu, 565 00:29:48,558 --> 00:29:50,977 and this, this dude I never met before. 566 00:29:50,977 --> 00:29:53,146 Pazuzu is like talking shit to his mom, you know, 567 00:29:53,146 --> 00:29:54,605 and the guy didn't like it. He's like, you know, 568 00:29:54,605 --> 00:29:56,899 "You're not talking to your mom like this." 569 00:29:56,899 --> 00:29:58,943 So, he acted all wild, like... (groans) 570 00:29:58,943 --> 00:30:00,445 But then he brings me, he's like, "Yo, yo, yo, 571 00:30:00,445 --> 00:30:03,156 come here, come here, come here, come here." 572 00:30:03,156 --> 00:30:05,658 I go in the kitchen with him and his aura's changed. 573 00:30:05,658 --> 00:30:08,202 He's just like... 574 00:30:08,202 --> 00:30:11,789 "Yo, dude, let's kill this ing guy." 575 00:30:11,789 --> 00:30:13,332 He's like, "Let's kill him right now," you know, 576 00:30:13,332 --> 00:30:14,834 "we'll get away with it." 577 00:30:14,834 --> 00:30:17,128 ♪ 578 00:30:17,128 --> 00:30:19,172 He really wanted me to kill this guy. 579 00:30:19,172 --> 00:30:20,590 He wanted me to do it. 580 00:30:20,590 --> 00:30:22,425 He didn't want to do it; he wanted me to do it. 581 00:30:22,425 --> 00:30:27,138 ♪ (electric guitar) ♪ 582 00:30:27,138 --> 00:30:29,057 I grabbed his hair and I slammed his head 583 00:30:29,057 --> 00:30:30,600 off a cabinet, you know, " you," you know, like, 584 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,144 "I'm not doing this." 585 00:30:33,144 --> 00:30:34,687 We ran out of beer and cigarettes, 586 00:30:34,687 --> 00:30:36,606 and you know, Paz is a broke er, so I was like, 587 00:30:36,606 --> 00:30:38,399 "Hey man, let's go," like, "Let's go buy, 588 00:30:38,399 --> 00:30:40,193 let's get some cigarettes. We'll get some alcohol for Pazuzu," 589 00:30:40,193 --> 00:30:42,153 you know, "We need some alcohol." I told the guy, 590 00:30:42,153 --> 00:30:43,446 I was like, "Look, you need to listen to me clearly. 591 00:30:43,446 --> 00:30:45,281 He told me he wants me to murder you. 592 00:30:45,281 --> 00:30:47,116 I'm just letting you know the truth." 593 00:30:47,116 --> 00:30:48,534 And I took him out to eat at Red Lobster, 594 00:30:48,534 --> 00:30:50,411 got him whatever he wanted to eat, 595 00:30:50,411 --> 00:30:51,913 and I haven't seen him since. 596 00:30:51,913 --> 00:30:58,169 ♪ 597 00:30:58,169 --> 00:31:00,713 Five years had gone by before I went and 598 00:31:00,713 --> 00:31:04,717 spoke to a detective in person. 599 00:31:04,717 --> 00:31:06,552 The detectives had this huge file on him, 600 00:31:06,552 --> 00:31:08,096 they had all this information. And they, 601 00:31:08,096 --> 00:31:10,014 they had to have known there was bodies in that yard. 602 00:31:10,014 --> 00:31:13,226 ♪ 603 00:31:13,226 --> 00:31:15,144 Once I came forward and let 'em know, like, 604 00:31:15,144 --> 00:31:17,563 "Yo, I'm a soldier," they took that as like, 605 00:31:17,563 --> 00:31:19,273 "Oh shit, like, we need to, we need to actually 606 00:31:19,273 --> 00:31:21,150 do something about it." 607 00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:24,445 ♪ 608 00:31:24,445 --> 00:31:26,572 "I can never be caught." 609 00:31:26,572 --> 00:31:28,241 Pazuzu said that, and then, 610 00:31:28,241 --> 00:31:30,451 he said he could never be knocked out. 611 00:31:30,451 --> 00:31:32,954 Two things. 612 00:31:32,954 --> 00:31:36,124 I knocked him the out, and the detectives caught him. 613 00:31:36,124 --> 00:31:39,335 ♪ 614 00:31:39,335 --> 00:31:41,754 Is that stench just coming from the house? 615 00:31:41,754 --> 00:31:45,007 That smell? Whoa. 616 00:31:45,007 --> 00:31:46,384 God almighty. 617 00:31:46,384 --> 00:31:47,426 ♪ 618 00:31:51,305 --> 00:32:01,315 ♪ 619 00:32:01,315 --> 00:32:13,661 ♪ 620 00:32:13,661 --> 00:32:17,373 I've seen my fair share of dead people, but... 621 00:32:17,373 --> 00:32:19,750 Nobody ever thought anything like that would happen here. 622 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:22,086 ♪ 623 00:32:22,086 --> 00:32:24,046 My name is Sean Reid. 624 00:32:24,046 --> 00:32:25,673 I was a Sergeant over at Crime Scene Investigations 625 00:32:25,673 --> 00:32:28,551 at the Forsyth County Sheriff's Office. 626 00:32:28,551 --> 00:32:32,138 ♪ 627 00:32:32,138 --> 00:32:35,600 When I set foot on that property... 628 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,104 I just knew it was gonna be a long day. 629 00:32:40,104 --> 00:32:42,899 Is that stench just coming from the house? 630 00:32:42,899 --> 00:32:44,817 That smell? 631 00:32:44,817 --> 00:32:56,662 ♪ 632 00:32:56,662 --> 00:32:58,289 (cat meows) 633 00:32:58,289 --> 00:33:01,000 Damn, that cat jumped out. Scared the shit out 'a me. 634 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,462 (indistinct speaking) 635 00:33:04,462 --> 00:33:09,050 There was a fire pit in the backyard. 636 00:33:09,050 --> 00:33:12,637 We had gotten some information that that might be 637 00:33:12,637 --> 00:33:18,100 a probable place to start and there was disturbances there, 638 00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:21,771 and so, that's where the team started to dig. 639 00:33:21,771 --> 00:33:27,026 ♪ 640 00:33:27,026 --> 00:33:34,659 By mid‐afternoon, they had located a skeleton. 641 00:33:34,659 --> 00:33:37,620 It looked like they had just dug a shallow grave and 642 00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:41,040 just folded him up into it. 643 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,627 I know it sounds harsh, but we actually took a bucket 644 00:33:44,627 --> 00:33:49,090 and put the sk‐‐ his skel‐‐ his skull in a bucket, 645 00:33:49,090 --> 00:33:53,761 to, to make sure that it didn't get... 646 00:33:53,761 --> 00:33:57,098 get broken or anything during transport. 647 00:33:57,098 --> 00:34:00,977 ♪ 648 00:34:00,977 --> 00:34:05,648 If it hadn't 'a been for a skull being there... 649 00:34:05,648 --> 00:34:09,443 You know, it, he definitely didn't look human. 650 00:34:09,443 --> 00:34:14,490 ♪ 651 00:34:14,490 --> 00:34:16,367 There, near the corner of the house, 652 00:34:16,367 --> 00:34:20,579 was another area that was focused on. 653 00:34:20,579 --> 00:34:26,127 We eventually found that body as well. 654 00:34:26,127 --> 00:34:32,133 It was just a mound of skeleton, flesh, and clothing. 655 00:34:32,133 --> 00:34:40,266 ♪ 656 00:34:40,266 --> 00:34:42,393 ♪ (News Music) ♪ 657 00:34:42,393 --> 00:34:44,270 New at five, we are following a developing story 658 00:34:44,270 --> 00:34:45,938 out of Clemmons. 659 00:34:45,938 --> 00:34:48,232 The investigation continues after a pair of bodies were 660 00:34:48,232 --> 00:34:51,485 found buried in a backyard of a Clemmons home. 661 00:34:51,485 --> 00:34:53,946 The skeletal remains have been taken to Wake Forest 662 00:34:53,946 --> 00:34:57,617 Baptist Medical Center, and have yet to be identified. 663 00:34:57,617 --> 00:35:01,912 ♪ 664 00:35:01,912 --> 00:35:06,959 It's not a normal practice to, to find... 665 00:35:06,959 --> 00:35:08,961 deceased people in shallow graves in the 666 00:35:08,961 --> 00:35:10,921 backyard of neighborhoods. 667 00:35:10,921 --> 00:35:13,007 ♪ 668 00:35:13,007 --> 00:35:15,176 We all were stunned. 669 00:35:15,176 --> 00:35:18,346 ♪ 670 00:35:18,346 --> 00:35:20,431 ‐ Found some here. ‐ Is it? 671 00:35:20,431 --> 00:35:22,016 Oof! 672 00:35:22,016 --> 00:35:23,726 It's about to get a whole lot better right there. 673 00:35:23,726 --> 00:35:26,145 Watch your step here. 674 00:35:26,145 --> 00:35:29,607 This is actually where one was buried. 675 00:35:29,607 --> 00:35:31,484 God almighty. 676 00:35:31,484 --> 00:35:33,527 ♪ 677 00:35:33,527 --> 00:35:36,155 35‐year‐old Pazuzu Algarad and a woman who 678 00:35:36,155 --> 00:35:39,742 calls herself his wife, 24‐year‐old Amber Burch, 679 00:35:39,742 --> 00:35:44,372 are both now charged with murder. 680 00:35:44,372 --> 00:35:45,748 Somebody texted me, 681 00:35:45,748 --> 00:35:48,417 "Hey, the SBI's over at Pazuzu's house". 682 00:35:48,417 --> 00:35:49,710 I was like, "Wait a minute," like, 683 00:35:49,710 --> 00:35:51,504 "How the do you know that?" 684 00:35:51,504 --> 00:35:53,047 You know, I'm paranoid at that point. 685 00:35:53,047 --> 00:35:54,465 Like, "How do you know this? 686 00:35:54,465 --> 00:35:55,591 How do you know the cops are over at their house? 687 00:35:55,591 --> 00:35:57,468 How do you know that they caught him?" 688 00:35:57,468 --> 00:35:59,178 And they're like, "Turn on the news". 689 00:35:59,178 --> 00:36:01,430 28‐year‐old Krystal Matlock has been charged with 690 00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:03,432 accessory after the fact. 691 00:36:03,432 --> 00:36:06,394 Documents state she assisted Algarad with concealing an 692 00:36:06,394 --> 00:36:11,232 unidentified male body between June and August of 2009. 693 00:36:11,232 --> 00:36:13,401 The Forsyth County medical examiner's office 694 00:36:13,401 --> 00:36:17,905 does not know when they will identify those remains. 695 00:36:17,905 --> 00:36:20,157 It's not just Amber who got caught up in all this. 696 00:36:20,157 --> 00:36:22,868 There was also another so‐called fiancée. 697 00:36:22,868 --> 00:36:24,620 She somehow got roped into participating 698 00:36:24,620 --> 00:36:27,206 in this murder as well. 699 00:36:27,206 --> 00:36:28,999 It's still an active scene 700 00:36:28,999 --> 00:36:31,293 here in this quiet Clemmons neighborhood. 701 00:36:31,293 --> 00:36:33,921 And as you can see, the Forsyth County Sheriff's Office 702 00:36:33,921 --> 00:36:37,842 and SBI is still searching the property. 703 00:36:37,842 --> 00:36:40,636 The skeletal remains of two individuals were found 704 00:36:40,636 --> 00:36:46,934 buried in shallow graves at 2749 Knob Hill Drive. 705 00:36:46,934 --> 00:36:48,394 When Pazuzu got busted, I didn't know that there was 706 00:36:48,394 --> 00:36:51,480 two people in the yard. I thought there was only one. 707 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,357 Now, I know Pazuzu killed like ten or fifteen people. 708 00:36:53,357 --> 00:36:57,778 He definitely killed more than they got. 709 00:36:57,778 --> 00:36:59,655 They went back and searched the backyard, 710 00:36:59,655 --> 00:37:01,657 and the thing that will piss you off and keep you up at night, 711 00:37:01,657 --> 00:37:03,117 is they didn't just find one body; 712 00:37:03,117 --> 00:37:06,412 they found two bodies. 713 00:37:06,412 --> 00:37:08,289 So, now we don't just got a guy who's kind of 714 00:37:08,289 --> 00:37:11,041 killed somebody on an impulse; we got a possible serial killer. 715 00:37:11,041 --> 00:37:15,504 ♪ 716 00:37:15,504 --> 00:37:17,757 There's nothing that could prepare you for 717 00:37:17,757 --> 00:37:21,719 what you saw inside Pazuzu's house. 718 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,014 You would be hard pressed to not think that the person 719 00:37:25,014 --> 00:37:27,308 who lived there was capable of about anything. 720 00:37:27,308 --> 00:37:29,351 ♪ 721 00:37:32,980 --> 00:37:38,027 ♪ 722 00:37:38,027 --> 00:37:39,570 Well, it's a story from right here in the Piedmont 723 00:37:39,570 --> 00:37:41,655 that's actually making headlines around the world. 724 00:37:41,655 --> 00:37:44,241 The story of skeletal remains found in Clemmons 725 00:37:44,241 --> 00:37:46,243 have neighbors stunned. 726 00:37:46,243 --> 00:37:49,622 ♪ 727 00:37:49,622 --> 00:37:52,458 There were all kinds of rumors. 728 00:37:52,458 --> 00:37:55,294 The crazy guy who lived there, 729 00:37:55,294 --> 00:38:01,592 sacrificed rabbits, and what a weird place it was. 730 00:38:01,592 --> 00:38:04,887 But, there's nothing that could prepare you for 731 00:38:04,887 --> 00:38:07,848 what you saw inside Pazuzu's house. 732 00:38:11,352 --> 00:38:12,895 All right, let's do it. 733 00:38:16,565 --> 00:38:18,275 Jesus Christ. 734 00:38:18,275 --> 00:38:21,654 (indistinct speaking) 735 00:38:21,654 --> 00:38:26,408 Yeah, that's definitely unfit for human.... 736 00:38:26,408 --> 00:38:29,954 Okay. 737 00:38:29,954 --> 00:38:33,582 SEAN: If filth had a smell, it was at that house. 738 00:38:33,582 --> 00:38:38,754 ♪ 739 00:38:38,754 --> 00:38:42,383 SEAN: It was so filthy and nasty... 740 00:38:42,383 --> 00:38:44,009 SEARCH TEAM: No drainage. 741 00:38:44,009 --> 00:38:48,264 SEAN: It was kind of surreal... 742 00:38:48,264 --> 00:38:50,975 SEARCH TEAM: Okay. All right, let's get those... 743 00:38:50,975 --> 00:38:53,143 Get those rooms back there. 744 00:38:53,143 --> 00:38:57,314 ‐ Is that thing dead? ‐ No, it's alive. 745 00:38:57,314 --> 00:38:59,149 SEAN: Going down the hallway, 746 00:38:59,149 --> 00:39:02,903 there's a bathroom on the right‐hand side. 747 00:39:02,903 --> 00:39:06,657 ♪ 748 00:39:06,657 --> 00:39:09,618 Just up from that was Pazuzu's room. 749 00:39:09,618 --> 00:39:16,417 ♪ 750 00:39:16,417 --> 00:39:20,963 The room that we referred to as the "altar room", 751 00:39:20,963 --> 00:39:23,632 it was so putrid... 752 00:39:23,632 --> 00:39:27,011 we literally had to get the fire department out there... 753 00:39:27,011 --> 00:39:31,557 (shattering glass) 754 00:39:31,557 --> 00:39:36,395 We wore Hazmat gear and Scott Air Packs into that room. 755 00:39:36,395 --> 00:39:41,066 ♪ 756 00:39:41,066 --> 00:39:47,239 Oh, this guy's got a bad case of whatever he's got. 757 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,702 SEAN: There was also his mother who lived there. 758 00:39:51,702 --> 00:39:54,872 SEARCH TEAM: This is the cleanest room in the house. 759 00:39:54,872 --> 00:39:57,750 SEAN: Cynthia's room may not have been the neatest and 760 00:39:57,750 --> 00:40:00,753 cleanest room in Forsyth County, 761 00:40:00,753 --> 00:40:03,672 but compared to the rest of the house, 762 00:40:03,672 --> 00:40:05,925 it was immaculate. 763 00:40:05,925 --> 00:40:12,723 ♪ 764 00:40:12,723 --> 00:40:18,771 It is so hard to try to describe what it was like. 765 00:40:18,771 --> 00:40:23,943 This is not, not normal. 766 00:40:23,943 --> 00:40:26,403 You would be hard pressed to, 767 00:40:26,403 --> 00:40:29,657 to be inside the house and not think that the person 768 00:40:29,657 --> 00:40:33,118 who lived there was capable of about anything. 769 00:40:33,118 --> 00:40:36,580 I actually need... Need some air. 770 00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:37,957 Whoo! 771 00:40:42,378 --> 00:40:45,589 I mean, it's, it's well, well... 772 00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:49,802 well past condemning. 773 00:40:49,802 --> 00:40:51,762 ♪ (News Music) ♪ 774 00:40:51,762 --> 00:40:53,764 Two families finally know what happened to their 775 00:40:53,764 --> 00:40:56,934 loved ones, gone without answers for five years. 776 00:40:56,934 --> 00:40:59,812 The skeletal remains found in a Clemmons backyard 777 00:40:59,812 --> 00:41:04,817 have been identified as Josh Wetzler and Tommy Welch. 778 00:41:04,817 --> 00:41:13,909 ♪ 779 00:41:13,909 --> 00:41:16,161 Tommy Dean Welch is a working‐class guy 780 00:41:16,161 --> 00:41:19,498 in Winston‐Salem, semi‐employed, 781 00:41:19,498 --> 00:41:25,170 semi‐educated, struggling, but spends time with his family. 782 00:41:25,170 --> 00:41:28,340 He was walking to meet his brother, 783 00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:33,887 and somewhere, he encounters John Lawson and Amber Burch. 784 00:41:33,887 --> 00:41:37,307 And it's that fast (snaps) that Tommy Welch's life 785 00:41:37,307 --> 00:41:39,935 and the life of all those around him, changes forever. 786 00:41:39,935 --> 00:41:48,110 ♪ 787 00:41:48,110 --> 00:41:51,822 When I heard that they had found Josh... 788 00:41:51,822 --> 00:41:55,868 I was crying, just tears of relief and joy 789 00:41:55,868 --> 00:41:58,287 that he was out of there. 790 00:41:58,287 --> 00:42:01,165 You know, it was like the most evil dark place 791 00:42:01,165 --> 00:42:06,462 you can imagine, and he was out, he'd been found. 792 00:42:06,462 --> 00:42:11,425 But, it's not over at all. It doesn't feel over. 793 00:42:11,425 --> 00:42:15,929 And in fact, it just really, a lot of questions 794 00:42:15,929 --> 00:42:18,974 were created from that, rather than answered. 795 00:42:18,974 --> 00:42:22,770 ♪ 796 00:42:22,770 --> 00:42:25,272 The news media goes into overdrive with the gore and 797 00:42:25,272 --> 00:42:27,441 the constant commentary about evil and Satan and 798 00:42:27,441 --> 00:42:29,443 all the rest; that's just entertainment. 799 00:42:29,443 --> 00:42:31,653 The gruesome details do not begin to answer 800 00:42:31,653 --> 00:42:33,280 the real questions. 801 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,698 How can law enforcement in our community 802 00:42:34,698 --> 00:42:36,283 let something like this go on? 803 00:42:36,283 --> 00:42:40,704 How did we let this go on? 804 00:42:40,704 --> 00:42:43,791 Clemmons is a wonderful place to grow up. 805 00:42:43,791 --> 00:42:46,710 You're surrounded by church, you're surrounded by family. 806 00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:48,378 Everyone's a conservative Christian, 807 00:42:48,378 --> 00:42:50,005 everybody votes the same way, 808 00:42:50,005 --> 00:42:52,466 they eat the same stuff... 809 00:42:52,466 --> 00:42:54,343 But while they go about their business, 810 00:42:54,343 --> 00:42:57,137 these ugly things, these tough things are 811 00:42:57,137 --> 00:43:00,808 all bubbling under the surface. 812 00:43:00,808 --> 00:43:02,810 And a guy like Pazuzu Algarad, 813 00:43:02,810 --> 00:43:06,146 he becomes a local myth, maybe a local joke, 814 00:43:06,146 --> 00:43:09,316 but nobody really pays attention to him. 815 00:43:09,316 --> 00:43:11,735 Nobody realizes how serious it is, 816 00:43:11,735 --> 00:43:15,364 until it's too late. 817 00:43:15,364 --> 00:43:18,158 Algarad's tongue was split like a snake, 818 00:43:18,158 --> 00:43:19,827 moving in different directions. 819 00:43:19,827 --> 00:43:22,496 He picked up two prostitutes at two separate locations 820 00:43:22,496 --> 00:43:24,915 before he killed and ate them. 821 00:43:24,915 --> 00:43:26,708 When Johnny was eight years old, 822 00:43:26,708 --> 00:43:29,086 she put him in a mental hospital. 823 00:43:29,086 --> 00:43:30,963 The one that needs to be there is that woman, 824 00:43:30,963 --> 00:43:32,256 the mama. 825 00:43:32,256 --> 00:43:34,424 I think his mother ruined his life. 826 00:43:34,424 --> 00:43:37,302 Jenna's parents let us move in with them and 827 00:43:37,302 --> 00:43:41,223 it gives us a lot more money to, to get high. 828 00:43:41,223 --> 00:43:43,100 I don't want to quit. 829 00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:46,436 We end up having to do dirt bag research because 830 00:43:46,436 --> 00:43:48,689 none of the authorities are talking. 831 00:43:48,689 --> 00:43:51,400 And then we found out that the search warrants were sealed. 832 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,484 There was something in those search warrants that 833 00:43:52,484 --> 00:43:55,112 law enforcement didn't want out. 834 00:43:55,112 --> 00:43:56,780 That's what the whole neighborhood wants. 835 00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:57,656 We just want the house gone. 63128

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