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Around Winston‐Salem
suburbs,
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people knew of a guy,
John Lawson,
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who named himself Pazuzu.
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Jared wanted to know
where his dad was.
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I just told him that,
you know,
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he had gone away somewhere
we hadn't heard from him.
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I went to the sheriff's
department with a
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voice recording and told
them what I knew.
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I said, "You're gonna
think I'm crazy, but I think
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my son's father is buried
in this guy's backyard."
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We executed a
search warrant,
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but at that time,
there was no evidence
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that we were able to find.
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So, she calls
me and she said,
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"I'm part of
the family now."
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This is some Charles Manson
shit, you know.
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And she said,
"We murdered a guy.
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We shot him in the head."
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This is how I know that there
is a dead body in the backyard.
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(tapping fingers)
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♪
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♪
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Historical Ad:
Tobacco capital of the world,
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Winston‐Salem.
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For Winston‐Salem, the old
southern city which is the
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thriving center of
trade and industry
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when the nation was born...
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Winston‐Salem is
home to these men,
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Americans who have their
roots deep in tradition and
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are a vital part of the
progress of the nation.
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Yes, Winston‐Salem,
with its face to the future,
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is a good place
in which to live.
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♪
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♪
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After human remains were found
buried in Pazuzu's backyard,
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the news was
mostly click‐bait headlines
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about devil worship
and animal sacrifice,
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but I still had
so many questions.
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Everybody knew this guy
was into some scary stuff,
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so how was it he was able
to get away with murder
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for more than five years?
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♪
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There were a lot of
rumors flying around,
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but the more I learned,
the more I realized his ability
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to get away with this had less
to do with satanic powers...
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And everything to do
with where he was from.
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♪
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Clemmons, North Carolina
is in the southwest part
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of Forsyth County.
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It would be, what would,
may be considered
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a bedroom community.
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There's two major
thoroughfares from
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Winston‐Salem to
Clemmons, and back.
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It would be considered a
suburb of the larger city of
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Winston‐Salem, which is the
predominant larger city
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of Forsyth County.
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♪
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If you're looking
for the ugly truth...
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the underbelly...
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the black root of
corrupted culture,
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where you do go are places
like the exurbs and the suburbs,
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where the economy has
been hit especially hard.
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♪
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It used to be you could to
work here straight out of
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high school and be able to
afford the quote, unquote,
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American dream.
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Jobs that those folks can
get are no longer here.
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There's no opportunities,
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and what do you do
when you despair?
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You party like a monster,
you know, you throw down.
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You, you, you create
drama around yourself.
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Right now in Winston‐Salem,
there's like a
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couple generations in there,
they tell you, "I'm bored".
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You look at these guys'
Facebook pages:
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"I'm bored. What up?
Anybody doing anything?"
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This kind of boredom and
malaise is kind of
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laid over the place.
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We have unemployed youth
kind of drifting around with
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no direction, and
kind of no real purpose.
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♪
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There's not a whole
lot to do in this town.
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The best way I can
find to enjoy myself,
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to kill the boredom and,
you know,
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just the pain that I didn't
even realize was there,
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was drugs.
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Even when I found heroin,
it really was always an escape.
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But, it quickly
becomes a requirement.
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You know, it's...
it's all‐encompassing.
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My mom needs her iPad back
and I kind of pawned it
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the other day, so I'm trying
to get the money
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to get that out, you know.
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A, just do the right thing
and get it back to her.
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But, B, to avoid
her calling the cops.
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And... also,
we're just, you know,
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trying to get money for our fix.
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♪
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Pazuzu provided an escape
from the hopelessness and
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aimlessness in
these kids' lives.
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He made them all vulnerable to
the worst parts of themselves,
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and then, he harnessed
that energy and
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kind of used it to
create a following.
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His aura is
very intoxicating.
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You just feel free and
powerful in his presence.
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♪
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There's something...
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spiritually different
about that place,
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and... about him.
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♪
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He controlled by
subtle manipulation.
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Y'all worship law and order;
I'm gonna be an anarchist.
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Y'all want to dress
all preppy the way that
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everybody else does,
well,
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I'm gonna take it to
the other extreme.
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File my teeth down to points,
and, you know,
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get tattoos all
over my face.
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In a way, the guy's a
ing lunatic genius. Ha!
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(bells chiming)
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Clemmons is a place in
Winston‐Salem where
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everyone goes to church,
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everyone identifies
with the church.
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So, he became the devil.
He became a
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quote, unquote,
Satanist.
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Even the name, Pazuzu,
I mean, come on,
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it's the name of the
demon in The Exorcist.
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What is the biggest,
scariest thing? It's Satan.
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It's the devil, el diablo,
the fallen one,
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Lucifer, Pazuzu.
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I mean, these people
believe in this stuff.
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Lawson trolled pop culture
and kind of
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came up with this persona.
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It's a little
mixture of Manson,
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throw in a little
Anton LaVey,
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a little 1980s heavy metal,
you know, 666 type stuff.
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And there you go.
And then,
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when 9/11 came,
he put on a jihadi mask.
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It was as if he
was trying to be
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what people were afraid of.
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You know,
it made it powerful.
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And it seems like there were
some young women
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who were particularly
susceptible to his persona.
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Pazuzu dated a lot of girls,
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and he apparently had
sex with a lot more.
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I think the majority of his
power came from the same place,
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the same reason
that we were all there...
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That little bit of
darkness that
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we all kind of
gravitated towards.
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♪
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All of his women
are very young.
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And, a lot of them are get‐‐
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are going through
terrible times.
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Amber Burch is
the best example.
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You know, I mean, here's a girl
who's just out of high school.
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She hooks up with Pazuzu,
and a few short months later,
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she's helping him
dispose of a body.
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But why?
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What was it about Pazuzu
that these women
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would sacrifice their
futures for him?
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He was the daddy
she never had,
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the daddy that she
had been looking for.
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My name is
Cadie Wagner‐Davis.
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And, I met Amber
in high school.
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We were the best friends.
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In no time,
I saw my best friend
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do a complete
and total 180.
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One day she's our Bubbles,
the next day she's...
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not showering, and...
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shaving all of
her eyebrows off, and...
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filing her teeth down to
points so that she could
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bite into these
animals, and...
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and just... no.
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♪
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Whenever I first really
started hearing about Pazuzu,
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we got a few
phone calls from her,
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telling me that, you know,
she really likes this guy,
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he's really cool,
he's a Satanist.
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She would talk about
these rituals, I guess.
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Pazuzu would kill an animal
and drink the blood.
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I know that they would cut
each other open and
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drink each other's blood.
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♪
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She made it so exciting.
You know,
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"Hey, I'm gonna
come pick you up.
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We're gonna come up here and
I want you to meet Pazuzu.
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I want your opinion on him."
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Said, "Okay, well,
that's cool."
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We get up there and
everything was fine
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until I walked onto
the front porch.
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The stench just, it was like
a smack to the face
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it was so strong.
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The first thing I ever said
to Pazuzu when I met him was,
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"Dude, your house
smells like death."
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And he kinda laughed,
"Oh, yeah,
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it's just the bodies
in the basement."
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♪
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This sucks.
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(dog barks)
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Come on.
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I don't think Dixie would have
gotten herself involved
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in a murder if it wasn't
for Pazuzu or Amber.
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I think the murder turned
her into a different person.
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♪
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‐ There we go.
‐ (engine sputters)
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Give it another one.
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(engine sputters)
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Crazy thing is,
after she told me the story...
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I went to the police and
filed an anonymous report.
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(engine revving)
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(engine sputters)
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I wrote it all out:
everything about Pazuzu,
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everything about Amber. I left
her name out of it though.
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You know, I didn't put in
there that she helped
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bury this body.
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But, in detail,
I put every single thing ‐
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where the body
was buried, everything.
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(motorcycle rumbling)
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I found out about the search
because Pazuzu called me.
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They actually showed
up to his house,
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SWAT Team, like
battle rattle, like,
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they're ready to rock,
you know what I mean?
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(coughs)
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Pazuzu told me they
knocked on the door.
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He looks out the ing
peep hole and there's
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dudes with like flak vests,
machine guns and shit, you know.
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They go into the house,
they're searching,
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they're not finding shit.
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(revving motorcycle)
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(engine sputters)
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How incompetent,
that CSI Miami bullshit.
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It's ing garbage, dude.
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Nothing ing happened.
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Come on.
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♪
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They said that the
devil worshipper
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kill on the full moon.
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And my son,
lit a cigarette...
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and before he can light it,
they shot him in his head
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and he fell dead.
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♪
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(crickets)
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So, the police search
Pazuzu's house and
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they don't find anything.
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But instead of
dialing it back,
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the behavior inside the
house at Knob Hill becomes
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increasingly more violent.
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When we pull the rap sheets,
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what you can see from there
is that in May 2010,
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Pazuzu is arrested
for choking his mom.
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Then, a little bit over a year
later in September of 2011,
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Amber is arrested for
pushing, choking,
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and slapping Cynthia.
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Then in November of 2011,
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Amber is arrested for
slapping Pazuzu.
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And clearly this place is
becoming a powder keg
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and it's about to blow.
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(sirens)
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We responded to the
residence on Knob Hill Drive,
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whereby the information
was learned from
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witnesses and the,
quote, victim,
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that he had assaulted
his mother.
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I think that was by
strangling, or choking her.
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And so, he was charged with,
subsequently,
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I think his mother did
not continue with the
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prosecution effort of that.
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Right after Pazuzu is let
off on the assault on his mama,
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he went right
back into the house,
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and then he starts
recruiting other people to
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join in on his violence.
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♪
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♪
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I do not believe
it was an accident.
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He was chosen to be
killed that night.
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♪
273
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My name is Shelia Chandler.
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I'm the mother of
Joseph Chandler.
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Joseph is just a
kind‐hearted person.
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He meets no strangers.
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He was walking when,
I guess,
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when he got to the store.
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I don't know how the
conversation started off
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with those two, Nicholas
and the devil worshipper.
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♪
282
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I don't know why he got
in that car with them.
283
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They said that the
devil worshipper
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kill on the full moon.
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And when they drove him
to Yadkin River, they said...
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The devil worshipper sat
on the lake while Nicholas
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pulled out the shotgun
and it jammed.
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♪
289
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And he went back to
the car and got a gun.
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And my son lit a cigarette,
and before he can light it,
291
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they shot him in his
head and he fell dead.
292
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I said, "Why didn't
they call the police
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if it was an accident?"
294
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I call it.
They murdered my son.
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They did it intentionally.
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♪
297
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I just don't understand.
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♪
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♪
300
00:16:01,023 --> 00:16:04,610
I wanted to go
to Pazuzu's plea,
301
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but they told me it was not
necessary for me to be there.
302
00:16:08,780 --> 00:16:11,200
I didn't have to be there.
303
00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,204
I said, "What?"
And that was it.
304
00:16:15,204 --> 00:16:17,706
"We'll get you a transcript,"
and that's it.
305
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♪
306
00:16:20,876 --> 00:16:22,961
The way they kept
dragging it on and saying,
307
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"We're not going to
have this trial today.
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His lawyer hasn't
got here yet..."
309
00:16:27,966 --> 00:16:30,469
They just kept
giving me the runaround.
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And at the end of it all,
311
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they didn't tell me
nothing about his trial.
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They just told me I
didn't have to be there;
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that was it.
I was uninvited, yes, I was.
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♪
315
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(birds chirping)
316
00:17:18,141 --> 00:17:20,686
So, what I'm looking at here
is the psych evaluation
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from 2010 for Pazuzu I. Algarad
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that was made during
the Chandler case,
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when he was held in as
an accessory for that.
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He was ordered to go to
Dorothea Dix in Raleigh.
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00:17:31,446 --> 00:17:44,376
♪
322
00:17:44,376 --> 00:17:46,295
And I mean, this very
clearly states that this kid
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has had a long history of
real mental illness and
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psychotic symptoms.
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00:17:50,632 --> 00:17:52,467
He'd been hospitalized
several times already
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00:17:52,467 --> 00:17:53,885
by the time all of
this unfolded,
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00:17:53,885 --> 00:17:58,015
going all the way back
to his childhood.
328
00:17:58,015 --> 00:18:00,434
We're talking about a
guy who went into
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00:18:00,434 --> 00:18:05,606
his psychologist interview
smelling like poop and
330
00:18:05,606 --> 00:18:08,692
apparently hadn't bathed in
over a year at that point.
331
00:18:08,692 --> 00:18:12,029
♪
332
00:18:12,029 --> 00:18:13,655
He talks about the fact that
at some point he had
333
00:18:13,655 --> 00:18:18,577
used something to
sharpen his teeth.
334
00:18:18,577 --> 00:18:20,537
Yeah, "Mr. Algarad reported
that he was unemployed at
335
00:18:20,537 --> 00:18:21,955
the time of the alleged
offense and has not worked
336
00:18:21,955 --> 00:18:24,666
in several years, receiving
SSI disability because of
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00:18:24,666 --> 00:18:26,627
his problems being
nervous and paranoid
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00:18:26,627 --> 00:18:30,797
when outside of his house."
339
00:18:30,797 --> 00:18:32,924
He describes being part
of a Sumerian religion,
340
00:18:32,924 --> 00:18:35,135
which he admits
that he made up,
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00:18:35,135 --> 00:18:37,596
that he and his wife are
the only practitioners.
342
00:18:37,596 --> 00:18:40,474
He needs to get out to do
an animal sacrifice
343
00:18:40,474 --> 00:18:45,145
so he doesn't feel
further anxiety, I guess.
344
00:18:45,145 --> 00:18:47,356
His mother, Cynthia,
tells the psychiatrist that
345
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she's afraid he might kill
himself if he's not allowed
346
00:18:49,107 --> 00:18:51,485
to perform this
animal sacrifice.
347
00:18:51,485 --> 00:18:53,695
I mean, this definitely paints
a picture of a very sick guy,
348
00:18:53,695 --> 00:18:55,781
and the doctors actually
diagnosed him with
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Schizotypal
Personality Disorder,
350
00:18:57,741 --> 00:19:00,952
which basically means the
guy is clinically psychotic.
351
00:19:00,952 --> 00:19:02,746
I mean, it was clear to
everyone that this was an
352
00:19:02,746 --> 00:19:05,290
individual who needed
serious supervised
353
00:19:05,290 --> 00:19:08,585
mental health treatment.
354
00:19:08,585 --> 00:19:11,296
♪
355
00:19:31,942 --> 00:19:37,531
♪
356
00:19:37,531 --> 00:19:39,616
So, the guy walks out of the
courtroom in Forsyth County
357
00:19:39,616 --> 00:19:41,493
with basically a
slap on the wrist,
358
00:19:41,493 --> 00:19:43,620
into the community where
me and my children live.
359
00:19:43,620 --> 00:19:45,997
So this guy is now out here
roaming around where we live,
360
00:19:45,997 --> 00:19:47,833
and we know all this
stuff about him from the
361
00:19:47,833 --> 00:19:49,751
fact that he's murdered
and tortured animals,
362
00:19:49,751 --> 00:19:52,421
he's admitted to being a
chronic drug and alcohol abuser,
363
00:19:52,421 --> 00:19:54,339
and he's admitted to multiple
levels of mental illness
364
00:19:54,339 --> 00:19:56,925
that's barely going treated...
365
00:19:56,925 --> 00:19:58,593
And, he's assaulted his
mother and choked her
366
00:19:58,593 --> 00:20:00,220
to the point where
she passes out,
367
00:20:00,220 --> 00:20:01,638
but we're gonna let
him out the door.
368
00:20:01,638 --> 00:20:02,848
We're gonna open the doors
and let him back out into
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00:20:02,848 --> 00:20:04,516
society because it's clear
that the only way
370
00:20:04,516 --> 00:20:06,351
to fix this is, let him
into the community.
371
00:20:06,351 --> 00:20:09,730
♪
372
00:20:09,730 --> 00:20:12,357
Jenna Woodring smiling,
even laughing in the
373
00:20:12,357 --> 00:20:15,819
back seat of a patrol car just
hours after the accident.
374
00:20:15,819 --> 00:20:17,279
Were you in an
accident this morning?
375
00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:18,613
No, sir.
376
00:20:18,613 --> 00:20:20,323
♪
377
00:20:26,121 --> 00:20:28,248
After Pazuzu's sentence
is suspended for
378
00:20:28,248 --> 00:20:30,375
his involvement in the
death of Joseph Chandler,
379
00:20:30,375 --> 00:20:33,003
which basically means he
gets time served and a warning,
380
00:20:33,003 --> 00:20:35,756
things around his
house seem to calm down.
381
00:20:35,756 --> 00:20:36,965
But meanwhile, there are a
whole bunch of other kids
382
00:20:36,965 --> 00:20:38,508
in this town that
were struggling;
383
00:20:38,508 --> 00:20:41,470
they're down on life,
unemployed, aimless,
384
00:20:41,470 --> 00:20:43,555
and they're getting
addicted to drugs.
385
00:20:43,555 --> 00:20:44,973
And I mean, they're not
chopping up people and
386
00:20:44,973 --> 00:20:46,349
putting them in
the backyard,
387
00:20:46,349 --> 00:20:48,226
but they're definitely
causing harm to themselves
388
00:20:48,226 --> 00:20:49,811
and to other people,
389
00:20:49,811 --> 00:20:51,980
and no one is really doing
anything about it.
390
00:20:51,980 --> 00:21:00,530
♪
391
00:21:00,530 --> 00:21:02,866
Jenna Woodring,
smiling, even laughing,
392
00:21:02,866 --> 00:21:04,576
in the back seat of
a patrol car,
393
00:21:04,576 --> 00:21:06,703
just hours after the accident.
394
00:21:06,703 --> 00:21:08,079
Were you in an
accident this morning?
395
00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:09,748
No, sir.
396
00:21:09,748 --> 00:21:12,000
Scott Curtis had nothing
to say today as he left
397
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,794
the Mecklenburg
County Courthouse.
398
00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:15,545
He had just come
face‐to‐face with
399
00:21:15,545 --> 00:21:18,882
26‐year‐old Jenna Woodring
for the first time.
400
00:21:18,882 --> 00:21:22,260
She hit him in July of 2012
as he was riding his bike
401
00:21:22,260 --> 00:21:24,054
on Brown Grier Road
in Charlotte,
402
00:21:24,054 --> 00:21:25,722
and then kept going.
403
00:21:25,722 --> 00:21:27,307
She didn't remember
the crash then,
404
00:21:27,307 --> 00:21:29,184
and still doesn't now.
405
00:21:29,184 --> 00:21:31,394
Woodring's attorney says
she's bipolar and suffers
406
00:21:31,394 --> 00:21:36,483
from borderline
personality disorder.
407
00:21:36,483 --> 00:21:39,027
I disassociated and got
in my car and hit
408
00:21:39,027 --> 00:21:43,281
a guy on a bicycle and
almost killed him.
409
00:21:43,281 --> 00:21:48,203
He's now a paraplegic with
brain damage, so, I have...
410
00:21:48,203 --> 00:21:51,414
seven years, total,
of probation.
411
00:21:51,414 --> 00:21:58,338
And, if I violate by
doing anything illegal,
412
00:21:58,338 --> 00:22:02,425
I get sent to prison
for five to seven years.
413
00:22:02,425 --> 00:22:04,803
So, I can't go out and do
the illegal activities that
414
00:22:04,803 --> 00:22:07,389
me and Nate are
doing to get the money.
415
00:22:07,389 --> 00:22:12,227
♪
416
00:22:12,227 --> 00:22:22,195
♪ (phone: on hold) ♪
417
00:22:22,195 --> 00:22:24,030
(indistinct phone message)
418
00:22:24,030 --> 00:22:28,952
Nate: (scoffs)
Jenna: Yes, welcome to our life.
419
00:22:28,952 --> 00:22:33,456
♪ (phone: on hold) ♪
420
00:22:33,456 --> 00:22:35,041
Phone: How can I help you?
421
00:22:35,041 --> 00:22:38,378
Ah, I was actually calling‐‐
I recently applied for
422
00:22:38,378 --> 00:22:43,049
food stamps and had to go
through a wish appointment to,
423
00:22:43,049 --> 00:22:45,176
you know, 'cause of
the drug felony I have.
424
00:22:45,176 --> 00:22:49,139
And, I did that last Wednesday
at about 12 o'clock,
425
00:22:49,139 --> 00:22:51,683
and I still haven't gotten
any food stamps on my card.
426
00:22:51,683 --> 00:22:53,768
I was wondering if there's
any way I could figure that out?
427
00:22:53,768 --> 00:22:56,605
You just have to wait
for her to process it.
428
00:22:56,605 --> 00:22:58,523
(phone ringing)
429
00:22:58,523 --> 00:23:01,359
‐ Hi.
‐ Hey...
430
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,154
How's it going?
431
00:23:04,154 --> 00:23:06,907
I still don't have my
food stamps on my card.
432
00:23:06,907 --> 00:23:08,825
So, y'all don'thave any food?
433
00:23:08,825 --> 00:23:10,368
No...
434
00:23:10,368 --> 00:23:14,372
We have pistachio
thin addictives...
435
00:23:14,372 --> 00:23:17,292
Additives.
They're crackers.
436
00:23:17,292 --> 00:23:19,294
Yeah, Nate didn't cutany yards or anything?
437
00:23:19,294 --> 00:23:21,755
No, well, it's been
raining this past week,
438
00:23:21,755 --> 00:23:23,465
so he wasn't
able to do that.
439
00:23:23,465 --> 00:23:25,675
He does have a few
job leads though,
440
00:23:25,675 --> 00:23:27,636
that he's waiting
on a phone call for.
441
00:23:27,636 --> 00:23:29,846
No, okay.I mean, I'll...
442
00:23:29,846 --> 00:23:34,059
I'll get you some money.Buh‐bye.
443
00:23:34,059 --> 00:23:37,437
(Laughs)
444
00:23:37,437 --> 00:23:41,441
‐ All right.
‐ So...
445
00:23:41,441 --> 00:23:44,069
It'll probably be at
least fifty bucks.
446
00:23:50,283 --> 00:23:52,619
I go to rehab.
Me and Nate meet,
447
00:23:52,619 --> 00:23:55,580
and after we got
out of rehab‐‐
448
00:23:55,580 --> 00:23:57,666
Well, I got kicked out, but...
449
00:23:57,666 --> 00:23:59,417
I gave him my phone number.
And when he left,
450
00:23:59,417 --> 00:24:03,713
he called me and we
ended up hooking up.
451
00:24:03,713 --> 00:24:07,676
Part of the reason that I
need a partner in crime,
452
00:24:07,676 --> 00:24:10,887
I guess, was because Nate
does all the dirty work.
453
00:24:10,887 --> 00:24:14,015
Like, I'm on really good
terms with my PO and
454
00:24:14,015 --> 00:24:15,809
I didn't want to
screw that up,
455
00:24:15,809 --> 00:24:19,729
and if I do screw up, I go
to prison for five years,
456
00:24:19,729 --> 00:24:21,648
five to seven years,
technically.
457
00:24:21,648 --> 00:24:24,859
♪
458
00:24:24,859 --> 00:24:27,946
The system's
really just broken.
459
00:24:27,946 --> 00:24:30,073
You have Pazuzu and his
posse committing crimes that
460
00:24:30,073 --> 00:24:31,783
seriously affect
everyone around them,
461
00:24:31,783 --> 00:24:33,994
but they're just right
back out on the streets.
462
00:24:33,994 --> 00:24:35,662
But non‐violent crimes,
463
00:24:35,662 --> 00:24:37,706
like having a bag of pot or
mushrooms in your pocket,
464
00:24:37,706 --> 00:24:39,582
those lead to
felony convictions.
465
00:24:39,582 --> 00:24:42,669
It fills up prisons
and totally ruins lives.
466
00:24:42,669 --> 00:24:45,171
I mean, we have got to get
our priorities straight.
467
00:24:45,171 --> 00:24:47,090
♪
468
00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:50,051
He takes a fire poker and
he sticks it in like...
469
00:24:50,051 --> 00:24:53,221
meat, and he pulls the
meat back and he's like,
470
00:24:53,221 --> 00:24:55,974
and he bit it.
471
00:24:55,974 --> 00:24:57,726
He's like,
"Satan protects me".
472
00:24:57,726 --> 00:24:58,560
♪
473
00:25:02,522 --> 00:25:08,862
(birds chirping)
474
00:25:08,862 --> 00:25:13,491
I haven't been back
here in a long time.
475
00:25:13,491 --> 00:25:16,369
So this is...
476
00:25:16,369 --> 00:25:19,873
the property that
Josh and I bought.
477
00:25:19,873 --> 00:25:23,376
Our idea was to have
a horse farm here.
478
00:25:23,376 --> 00:25:27,338
Josh and I lived...
There's a house right here.
479
00:25:27,338 --> 00:25:31,968
You can see the
roof of it from here.
480
00:25:31,968 --> 00:25:33,553
The bank foreclosed on it,
481
00:25:33,553 --> 00:25:35,680
so another family is
living there now.
482
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,518
♪
483
00:25:40,518 --> 00:25:43,063
Being out here, it brings
back memories and
484
00:25:43,063 --> 00:25:46,316
some of them are so
beautiful, and you know,
485
00:25:46,316 --> 00:25:49,319
I think of friends and
parties we had out here,
486
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:54,282
and our life
and the horses...
487
00:25:54,282 --> 00:25:56,326
I still feel close to
Josh and, you know,
488
00:25:56,326 --> 00:25:59,746
sometimes I'll still have
dreams that we're together.
489
00:25:59,746 --> 00:26:01,623
I think everything
continues.
490
00:26:01,623 --> 00:26:03,333
You know, we have
memories of things;
491
00:26:03,333 --> 00:26:05,043
that's part of life and
that's part of reality,
492
00:26:05,043 --> 00:26:08,671
and that's part
of who we are...
493
00:26:08,671 --> 00:26:14,302
For a long time we
were Josh and Stacey.
494
00:26:14,302 --> 00:26:16,971
So, for‐‐
When I'm here, yeah,
495
00:26:16,971 --> 00:26:19,682
I'm sort of
feeling that part.
496
00:26:19,682 --> 00:26:27,023
♪
497
00:26:27,023 --> 00:26:29,901
When I was a kid, I had
this recurring dream and
498
00:26:29,901 --> 00:26:33,530
it tormented me.
499
00:26:33,530 --> 00:26:38,118
I would go down into some
passage way to
500
00:26:38,118 --> 00:26:42,122
this place underneath the house.
501
00:26:42,122 --> 00:26:44,999
And, there was
something, I guess,
502
00:26:44,999 --> 00:26:49,129
evil is a good word to describe
what was happening there, and...
503
00:26:49,129 --> 00:26:52,715
and people were getting,
like, taken in, and even...
504
00:26:52,715 --> 00:26:55,885
a kid that I knew, you know,
was pulled in,
505
00:26:55,885 --> 00:26:58,680
and, and awful
things were happening.
506
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,099
And it was terrifying.
507
00:27:01,099 --> 00:27:11,484
♪
508
00:27:11,484 --> 00:27:15,905
And I would go upstairs
and I would try to tell my,
509
00:27:15,905 --> 00:27:17,657
my parents about it,
what was going on,
510
00:27:17,657 --> 00:27:19,367
and they didn't listen.
511
00:27:19,367 --> 00:27:22,203
Just kept trying
to tell people...
512
00:27:22,203 --> 00:27:25,957
And nobody
would listen to me.
513
00:27:25,957 --> 00:27:29,210
I never understood that
dream when I was a kid,
514
00:27:29,210 --> 00:27:31,880
but now I think I get it.
515
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,215
♪
516
00:27:34,215 --> 00:27:35,592
(dog barking)
517
00:27:41,639 --> 00:27:43,600
♪ (electric guitar) ♪
518
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,101
(indistinct speaking)
519
00:27:45,101 --> 00:27:53,860
♪ (electric guitar) ♪
520
00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:55,945
Ah, does this work?
521
00:27:55,945 --> 00:27:59,032
Huh? What?
Yeah.
522
00:27:59,032 --> 00:28:01,159
When I got back to Winston,
I was talking to my friend,
523
00:28:01,159 --> 00:28:04,037
and he told me that if
whatever I said about Pazuzu
524
00:28:04,037 --> 00:28:06,664
really had happened, if I
didn't do something about it,
525
00:28:06,664 --> 00:28:09,751
I was just
as bad as him.
526
00:28:09,751 --> 00:28:11,085
Like, I keep
thinking about it,
527
00:28:11,085 --> 00:28:12,170
and thinking about it,
and thinking about it.
528
00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:13,296
Like, it sat there,
rotted in my brain
529
00:28:13,296 --> 00:28:15,840
for years, and years, and years.
530
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,385
Long time, you know.
That there's a body in the yard.
531
00:28:19,385 --> 00:28:22,180
I was like, maybe there's really
not. Like, this is bullshit.
532
00:28:22,180 --> 00:28:25,850
And it put like this drive in me
to really do something about it.
533
00:28:25,850 --> 00:28:29,020
♪ (electric guitar) ♪
534
00:28:29,020 --> 00:28:30,563
About every two
or three weeks,
535
00:28:30,563 --> 00:28:32,649
I would just go
hang out with Pazuzu,
536
00:28:32,649 --> 00:28:36,319
like check to make sure
he wasn't harming anybody.
537
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,488
In fact, I went
to his house,
538
00:28:38,488 --> 00:28:42,200
and he's drunk, right.
539
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,452
We're sitting by the
fireplace and he takes
540
00:28:44,452 --> 00:28:46,496
a fire poker, and
he's looking at me.
541
00:28:46,496 --> 00:28:48,623
And he knows at this
time that I turned him in.
542
00:28:48,623 --> 00:28:50,959
He said, "You know what,"
he's like,
543
00:28:50,959 --> 00:28:53,336
"I know you turned me in,
but you're my brother."
544
00:28:53,336 --> 00:28:56,255
He's like, "Just know this,
I can never be caught,"
545
00:28:56,255 --> 00:28:58,257
and he takes a fire poker
and he puts it
546
00:28:58,257 --> 00:29:03,888
behind the fire wood and
he sticks it in, like, meat.
547
00:29:03,888 --> 00:29:06,015
And he pulls the meat
back and he's like,
548
00:29:06,015 --> 00:29:07,976
and he bit it...
549
00:29:07,976 --> 00:29:10,061
And he's like,
"Satan protects me."
550
00:29:10,061 --> 00:29:12,605
♪
551
00:29:12,605 --> 00:29:14,816
For all I know, it was a
dead rabbit that he killed, or,
552
00:29:14,816 --> 00:29:16,359
a piece of human
flesh that he ate.
553
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:18,277
I don't know.
554
00:29:18,277 --> 00:29:21,990
He was really fast and clever.
He could manipulate someone.
555
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:24,325
I mean, I'm not saying that's
good clever, you know.
556
00:29:24,325 --> 00:29:26,661
He talked about how he
believed he was a demon,
557
00:29:26,661 --> 00:29:28,579
and he had like power,
mind control
558
00:29:28,579 --> 00:29:30,581
or whatever over people.
559
00:29:30,581 --> 00:29:33,543
He tried to push
people into killing people.
560
00:29:33,543 --> 00:29:36,087
I think Pazuzu wanted
killing to be, like,
561
00:29:36,087 --> 00:29:38,381
some initiation, but...
562
00:29:38,381 --> 00:29:41,634
Most people
aren't murderers.
563
00:29:41,634 --> 00:29:44,721
There was this, like, really
jacked dude in his house.
564
00:29:44,721 --> 00:29:48,558
Like, this guy was cut as .
It was his mom, Pazuzu,
565
00:29:48,558 --> 00:29:50,977
and this, this dude
I never met before.
566
00:29:50,977 --> 00:29:53,146
Pazuzu is like talking shit
to his mom, you know,
567
00:29:53,146 --> 00:29:54,605
and the guy didn't like it.
He's like, you know,
568
00:29:54,605 --> 00:29:56,899
"You're not talking to
your mom like this."
569
00:29:56,899 --> 00:29:58,943
So, he acted all wild,
like... (groans)
570
00:29:58,943 --> 00:30:00,445
But then he brings me,
he's like, "Yo, yo, yo,
571
00:30:00,445 --> 00:30:03,156
come here, come here,
come here, come here."
572
00:30:03,156 --> 00:30:05,658
I go in the kitchen with him
and his aura's changed.
573
00:30:05,658 --> 00:30:08,202
He's just like...
574
00:30:08,202 --> 00:30:11,789
"Yo, dude, let's
kill this ing guy."
575
00:30:11,789 --> 00:30:13,332
He's like, "Let's kill
him right now," you know,
576
00:30:13,332 --> 00:30:14,834
"we'll get away with it."
577
00:30:14,834 --> 00:30:17,128
♪
578
00:30:17,128 --> 00:30:19,172
He really wanted me
to kill this guy.
579
00:30:19,172 --> 00:30:20,590
He wanted me to do it.
580
00:30:20,590 --> 00:30:22,425
He didn't want to do it;
he wanted me to do it.
581
00:30:22,425 --> 00:30:27,138
♪ (electric guitar) ♪
582
00:30:27,138 --> 00:30:29,057
I grabbed his hair and
I slammed his head
583
00:30:29,057 --> 00:30:30,600
off a cabinet, you know,
" you," you know, like,
584
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,144
"I'm not doing this."
585
00:30:33,144 --> 00:30:34,687
We ran out of
beer and cigarettes,
586
00:30:34,687 --> 00:30:36,606
and you know, Paz is a broke
er, so I was like,
587
00:30:36,606 --> 00:30:38,399
"Hey man, let's go," like,
"Let's go buy,
588
00:30:38,399 --> 00:30:40,193
let's get some cigarettes. We'll
get some alcohol for Pazuzu,"
589
00:30:40,193 --> 00:30:42,153
you know, "We need some
alcohol." I told the guy,
590
00:30:42,153 --> 00:30:43,446
I was like, "Look, you need
to listen to me clearly.
591
00:30:43,446 --> 00:30:45,281
He told me he wants
me to murder you.
592
00:30:45,281 --> 00:30:47,116
I'm just letting
you know the truth."
593
00:30:47,116 --> 00:30:48,534
And I took him out to
eat at Red Lobster,
594
00:30:48,534 --> 00:30:50,411
got him whatever
he wanted to eat,
595
00:30:50,411 --> 00:30:51,913
and I haven't
seen him since.
596
00:30:51,913 --> 00:30:58,169
♪
597
00:30:58,169 --> 00:31:00,713
Five years had gone by
before I went and
598
00:31:00,713 --> 00:31:04,717
spoke to a detective in person.
599
00:31:04,717 --> 00:31:06,552
The detectives had
this huge file on him,
600
00:31:06,552 --> 00:31:08,096
they had all this information.
And they,
601
00:31:08,096 --> 00:31:10,014
they had to have known
there was bodies in that yard.
602
00:31:10,014 --> 00:31:13,226
♪
603
00:31:13,226 --> 00:31:15,144
Once I came forward
and let 'em know, like,
604
00:31:15,144 --> 00:31:17,563
"Yo, I'm a soldier,"
they took that as like,
605
00:31:17,563 --> 00:31:19,273
"Oh shit, like, we need to,
we need to actually
606
00:31:19,273 --> 00:31:21,150
do something about it."
607
00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:24,445
♪
608
00:31:24,445 --> 00:31:26,572
"I can never be caught."
609
00:31:26,572 --> 00:31:28,241
Pazuzu said that,
and then,
610
00:31:28,241 --> 00:31:30,451
he said he could never
be knocked out.
611
00:31:30,451 --> 00:31:32,954
Two things.
612
00:31:32,954 --> 00:31:36,124
I knocked him the out,
and the detectives caught him.
613
00:31:36,124 --> 00:31:39,335
♪
614
00:31:39,335 --> 00:31:41,754
Is that stench just
coming from the house?
615
00:31:41,754 --> 00:31:45,007
That smell?
Whoa.
616
00:31:45,007 --> 00:31:46,384
God almighty.
617
00:31:46,384 --> 00:31:47,426
♪
618
00:31:51,305 --> 00:32:01,315
♪
619
00:32:01,315 --> 00:32:13,661
♪
620
00:32:13,661 --> 00:32:17,373
I've seen my fair share
of dead people, but...
621
00:32:17,373 --> 00:32:19,750
Nobody ever thought anything
like that would happen here.
622
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:22,086
♪
623
00:32:22,086 --> 00:32:24,046
My name is Sean Reid.
624
00:32:24,046 --> 00:32:25,673
I was a Sergeant over at
Crime Scene Investigations
625
00:32:25,673 --> 00:32:28,551
at the Forsyth
County Sheriff's Office.
626
00:32:28,551 --> 00:32:32,138
♪
627
00:32:32,138 --> 00:32:35,600
When I set foot on
that property...
628
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,104
I just knew it was
gonna be a long day.
629
00:32:40,104 --> 00:32:42,899
Is that stench just
coming from the house?
630
00:32:42,899 --> 00:32:44,817
That smell?
631
00:32:44,817 --> 00:32:56,662
♪
632
00:32:56,662 --> 00:32:58,289
(cat meows)
633
00:32:58,289 --> 00:33:01,000
Damn, that cat jumped out.
Scared the shit out 'a me.
634
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,462
(indistinct speaking)
635
00:33:04,462 --> 00:33:09,050
There was a fire
pit in the backyard.
636
00:33:09,050 --> 00:33:12,637
We had gotten some
information that that might be
637
00:33:12,637 --> 00:33:18,100
a probable place to start and
there was disturbances there,
638
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:21,771
and so, that's where
the team started to dig.
639
00:33:21,771 --> 00:33:27,026
♪
640
00:33:27,026 --> 00:33:34,659
By mid‐afternoon,
they had located a skeleton.
641
00:33:34,659 --> 00:33:37,620
It looked like they had just
dug a shallow grave and
642
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:41,040
just folded him up into it.
643
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,627
I know it sounds harsh, but
we actually took a bucket
644
00:33:44,627 --> 00:33:49,090
and put the sk‐‐ his skel‐‐
his skull in a bucket,
645
00:33:49,090 --> 00:33:53,761
to, to make sure
that it didn't get...
646
00:33:53,761 --> 00:33:57,098
get broken or anything
during transport.
647
00:33:57,098 --> 00:34:00,977
♪
648
00:34:00,977 --> 00:34:05,648
If it hadn't 'a been for
a skull being there...
649
00:34:05,648 --> 00:34:09,443
You know, it, he definitely
didn't look human.
650
00:34:09,443 --> 00:34:14,490
♪
651
00:34:14,490 --> 00:34:16,367
There, near the
corner of the house,
652
00:34:16,367 --> 00:34:20,579
was another area
that was focused on.
653
00:34:20,579 --> 00:34:26,127
We eventually found
that body as well.
654
00:34:26,127 --> 00:34:32,133
It was just a mound of
skeleton, flesh, and clothing.
655
00:34:32,133 --> 00:34:40,266
♪
656
00:34:40,266 --> 00:34:42,393
♪ (News Music) ♪
657
00:34:42,393 --> 00:34:44,270
New at five, we are
following a developing story
658
00:34:44,270 --> 00:34:45,938
out of Clemmons.
659
00:34:45,938 --> 00:34:48,232
The investigation continues
after a pair of bodies were
660
00:34:48,232 --> 00:34:51,485
found buried in a backyard of
a Clemmons home.
661
00:34:51,485 --> 00:34:53,946
The skeletal remains have
been taken to Wake Forest
662
00:34:53,946 --> 00:34:57,617
Baptist Medical Center, and
have yet to be identified.
663
00:34:57,617 --> 00:35:01,912
♪
664
00:35:01,912 --> 00:35:06,959
It's not a normal
practice to, to find...
665
00:35:06,959 --> 00:35:08,961
deceased people in
shallow graves in the
666
00:35:08,961 --> 00:35:10,921
backyard of neighborhoods.
667
00:35:10,921 --> 00:35:13,007
♪
668
00:35:13,007 --> 00:35:15,176
We all were stunned.
669
00:35:15,176 --> 00:35:18,346
♪
670
00:35:18,346 --> 00:35:20,431
‐ Found some here.
‐ Is it?
671
00:35:20,431 --> 00:35:22,016
Oof!
672
00:35:22,016 --> 00:35:23,726
It's about to get a whole
lot better right there.
673
00:35:23,726 --> 00:35:26,145
Watch your step here.
674
00:35:26,145 --> 00:35:29,607
This is actually
where one was buried.
675
00:35:29,607 --> 00:35:31,484
God almighty.
676
00:35:31,484 --> 00:35:33,527
♪
677
00:35:33,527 --> 00:35:36,155
35‐year‐old Pazuzu Algarad
and a woman who
678
00:35:36,155 --> 00:35:39,742
calls herself his wife,
24‐year‐old Amber Burch,
679
00:35:39,742 --> 00:35:44,372
are both now
charged with murder.
680
00:35:44,372 --> 00:35:45,748
Somebody texted me,
681
00:35:45,748 --> 00:35:48,417
"Hey, the SBI's over at
Pazuzu's house".
682
00:35:48,417 --> 00:35:49,710
I was like,
"Wait a minute," like,
683
00:35:49,710 --> 00:35:51,504
"How the do
you know that?"
684
00:35:51,504 --> 00:35:53,047
You know,
I'm paranoid at that point.
685
00:35:53,047 --> 00:35:54,465
Like, "How do you know this?
686
00:35:54,465 --> 00:35:55,591
How do you know the cops
are over at their house?
687
00:35:55,591 --> 00:35:57,468
How do you know
that they caught him?"
688
00:35:57,468 --> 00:35:59,178
And they're like,
"Turn on the news".
689
00:35:59,178 --> 00:36:01,430
28‐year‐old Krystal Matlock
has been charged with
690
00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:03,432
accessory after the fact.
691
00:36:03,432 --> 00:36:06,394
Documents state she assisted
Algarad with concealing an
692
00:36:06,394 --> 00:36:11,232
unidentified male body between
June and August of 2009.
693
00:36:11,232 --> 00:36:13,401
The Forsyth County medical
examiner's office
694
00:36:13,401 --> 00:36:17,905
does not know when they will
identify those remains.
695
00:36:17,905 --> 00:36:20,157
It's not just Amber who
got caught up in all this.
696
00:36:20,157 --> 00:36:22,868
There was also
another so‐called fiancée.
697
00:36:22,868 --> 00:36:24,620
She somehow got
roped into participating
698
00:36:24,620 --> 00:36:27,206
in this murder as well.
699
00:36:27,206 --> 00:36:28,999
It's still an active scene
700
00:36:28,999 --> 00:36:31,293
here in this quiet
Clemmons neighborhood.
701
00:36:31,293 --> 00:36:33,921
And as you can see, the
Forsyth County Sheriff's Office
702
00:36:33,921 --> 00:36:37,842
and SBI is still
searching the property.
703
00:36:37,842 --> 00:36:40,636
The skeletal remains of
two individuals were found
704
00:36:40,636 --> 00:36:46,934
buried in shallow graves
at 2749 Knob Hill Drive.
705
00:36:46,934 --> 00:36:48,394
When Pazuzu got busted,
I didn't know that there was
706
00:36:48,394 --> 00:36:51,480
two people in the yard.
I thought there was only one.
707
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,357
Now, I know Pazuzu killed
like ten or fifteen people.
708
00:36:53,357 --> 00:36:57,778
He definitely killed
more than they got.
709
00:36:57,778 --> 00:36:59,655
They went back and
searched the backyard,
710
00:36:59,655 --> 00:37:01,657
and the thing that will piss you
off and keep you up at night,
711
00:37:01,657 --> 00:37:03,117
is they didn't
just find one body;
712
00:37:03,117 --> 00:37:06,412
they found two bodies.
713
00:37:06,412 --> 00:37:08,289
So, now we don't just got
a guy who's kind of
714
00:37:08,289 --> 00:37:11,041
killed somebody on an impulse;
we got a possible serial killer.
715
00:37:11,041 --> 00:37:15,504
♪
716
00:37:15,504 --> 00:37:17,757
There's nothing that could
prepare you for
717
00:37:17,757 --> 00:37:21,719
what you saw inside
Pazuzu's house.
718
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,014
You would be hard pressed
to not think that the person
719
00:37:25,014 --> 00:37:27,308
who lived there was
capable of about anything.
720
00:37:27,308 --> 00:37:29,351
♪
721
00:37:32,980 --> 00:37:38,027
♪
722
00:37:38,027 --> 00:37:39,570
Well, it's a story from
right here in the Piedmont
723
00:37:39,570 --> 00:37:41,655
that's actually making
headlines around the world.
724
00:37:41,655 --> 00:37:44,241
The story of skeletal
remains found in Clemmons
725
00:37:44,241 --> 00:37:46,243
have neighbors stunned.
726
00:37:46,243 --> 00:37:49,622
♪
727
00:37:49,622 --> 00:37:52,458
There were all
kinds of rumors.
728
00:37:52,458 --> 00:37:55,294
The crazy guy
who lived there,
729
00:37:55,294 --> 00:38:01,592
sacrificed rabbits, and
what a weird place it was.
730
00:38:01,592 --> 00:38:04,887
But, there's nothing that
could prepare you for
731
00:38:04,887 --> 00:38:07,848
what you saw inside
Pazuzu's house.
732
00:38:11,352 --> 00:38:12,895
All right, let's do it.
733
00:38:16,565 --> 00:38:18,275
Jesus Christ.
734
00:38:18,275 --> 00:38:21,654
(indistinct speaking)
735
00:38:21,654 --> 00:38:26,408
Yeah, that's definitely
unfit for human....
736
00:38:26,408 --> 00:38:29,954
Okay.
737
00:38:29,954 --> 00:38:33,582
SEAN: If filth had a smell,
it was at that house.
738
00:38:33,582 --> 00:38:38,754
♪
739
00:38:38,754 --> 00:38:42,383
SEAN: It was so
filthy and nasty...
740
00:38:42,383 --> 00:38:44,009
SEARCH TEAM: No drainage.
741
00:38:44,009 --> 00:38:48,264
SEAN: It was kind of surreal...
742
00:38:48,264 --> 00:38:50,975
SEARCH TEAM: Okay.
All right, let's get those...
743
00:38:50,975 --> 00:38:53,143
Get those rooms back there.
744
00:38:53,143 --> 00:38:57,314
‐ Is that thing dead?
‐ No, it's alive.
745
00:38:57,314 --> 00:38:59,149
SEAN: Going down the hallway,
746
00:38:59,149 --> 00:39:02,903
there's a bathroom on
the right‐hand side.
747
00:39:02,903 --> 00:39:06,657
♪
748
00:39:06,657 --> 00:39:09,618
Just up from that
was Pazuzu's room.
749
00:39:09,618 --> 00:39:16,417
♪
750
00:39:16,417 --> 00:39:20,963
The room that we referred
to as the "altar room",
751
00:39:20,963 --> 00:39:23,632
it was so putrid...
752
00:39:23,632 --> 00:39:27,011
we literally had to get the
fire department out there...
753
00:39:27,011 --> 00:39:31,557
(shattering glass)
754
00:39:31,557 --> 00:39:36,395
We wore Hazmat gear and
Scott Air Packs into that room.
755
00:39:36,395 --> 00:39:41,066
♪
756
00:39:41,066 --> 00:39:47,239
Oh, this guy's got a bad
case of whatever he's got.
757
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,702
SEAN: There was also his
mother who lived there.
758
00:39:51,702 --> 00:39:54,872
SEARCH TEAM: This is the
cleanest room in the house.
759
00:39:54,872 --> 00:39:57,750
SEAN: Cynthia's room may not
have been the neatest and
760
00:39:57,750 --> 00:40:00,753
cleanest room in
Forsyth County,
761
00:40:00,753 --> 00:40:03,672
but compared to the
rest of the house,
762
00:40:03,672 --> 00:40:05,925
it was immaculate.
763
00:40:05,925 --> 00:40:12,723
♪
764
00:40:12,723 --> 00:40:18,771
It is so hard to try to
describe what it was like.
765
00:40:18,771 --> 00:40:23,943
This is not, not normal.
766
00:40:23,943 --> 00:40:26,403
You would be
hard pressed to,
767
00:40:26,403 --> 00:40:29,657
to be inside the house and
not think that the person
768
00:40:29,657 --> 00:40:33,118
who lived there was
capable of about anything.
769
00:40:33,118 --> 00:40:36,580
I actually need...
Need some air.
770
00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:37,957
Whoo!
771
00:40:42,378 --> 00:40:45,589
I mean,
it's, it's well, well...
772
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:49,802
well past condemning.
773
00:40:49,802 --> 00:40:51,762
♪ (News Music) ♪
774
00:40:51,762 --> 00:40:53,764
Two families finally know
what happened to their
775
00:40:53,764 --> 00:40:56,934
loved ones, gone without
answers for five years.
776
00:40:56,934 --> 00:40:59,812
The skeletal remains found
in a Clemmons backyard
777
00:40:59,812 --> 00:41:04,817
have been identified as
Josh Wetzler and Tommy Welch.
778
00:41:04,817 --> 00:41:13,909
♪
779
00:41:13,909 --> 00:41:16,161
Tommy Dean Welch is a
working‐class guy
780
00:41:16,161 --> 00:41:19,498
in Winston‐Salem,
semi‐employed,
781
00:41:19,498 --> 00:41:25,170
semi‐educated, struggling,
but spends time with his family.
782
00:41:25,170 --> 00:41:28,340
He was walking to
meet his brother,
783
00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:33,887
and somewhere, he encounters
John Lawson and Amber Burch.
784
00:41:33,887 --> 00:41:37,307
And it's that fast (snaps)
that Tommy Welch's life
785
00:41:37,307 --> 00:41:39,935
and the life of all those
around him, changes forever.
786
00:41:39,935 --> 00:41:48,110
♪
787
00:41:48,110 --> 00:41:51,822
When I heard that
they had found Josh...
788
00:41:51,822 --> 00:41:55,868
I was crying,
just tears of relief and joy
789
00:41:55,868 --> 00:41:58,287
that he was out of there.
790
00:41:58,287 --> 00:42:01,165
You know, it was like the
most evil dark place
791
00:42:01,165 --> 00:42:06,462
you can imagine,
and he was out, he'd been found.
792
00:42:06,462 --> 00:42:11,425
But, it's not over at all.
It doesn't feel over.
793
00:42:11,425 --> 00:42:15,929
And in fact, it just really,
a lot of questions
794
00:42:15,929 --> 00:42:18,974
were created from that,
rather than answered.
795
00:42:18,974 --> 00:42:22,770
♪
796
00:42:22,770 --> 00:42:25,272
The news media goes into
overdrive with the gore and
797
00:42:25,272 --> 00:42:27,441
the constant commentary
about evil and Satan and
798
00:42:27,441 --> 00:42:29,443
all the rest;
that's just entertainment.
799
00:42:29,443 --> 00:42:31,653
The gruesome details do
not begin to answer
800
00:42:31,653 --> 00:42:33,280
the real questions.
801
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,698
How can law enforcement
in our community
802
00:42:34,698 --> 00:42:36,283
let something like this go on?
803
00:42:36,283 --> 00:42:40,704
How did we let this go on?
804
00:42:40,704 --> 00:42:43,791
Clemmons is a wonderful
place to grow up.
805
00:42:43,791 --> 00:42:46,710
You're surrounded by church,
you're surrounded by family.
806
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:48,378
Everyone's a
conservative Christian,
807
00:42:48,378 --> 00:42:50,005
everybody votes
the same way,
808
00:42:50,005 --> 00:42:52,466
they eat the same stuff...
809
00:42:52,466 --> 00:42:54,343
But while they go
about their business,
810
00:42:54,343 --> 00:42:57,137
these ugly things,
these tough things are
811
00:42:57,137 --> 00:43:00,808
all bubbling under the surface.
812
00:43:00,808 --> 00:43:02,810
And a guy like
Pazuzu Algarad,
813
00:43:02,810 --> 00:43:06,146
he becomes a local myth,
maybe a local joke,
814
00:43:06,146 --> 00:43:09,316
but nobody really
pays attention to him.
815
00:43:09,316 --> 00:43:11,735
Nobody realizes
how serious it is,
816
00:43:11,735 --> 00:43:15,364
until it's too late.
817
00:43:15,364 --> 00:43:18,158
Algarad's tongue was
split like a snake,
818
00:43:18,158 --> 00:43:19,827
moving in
different directions.
819
00:43:19,827 --> 00:43:22,496
He picked up two prostitutes
at two separate locations
820
00:43:22,496 --> 00:43:24,915
before he killed
and ate them.
821
00:43:24,915 --> 00:43:26,708
When Johnny was
eight years old,
822
00:43:26,708 --> 00:43:29,086
she put him in a
mental hospital.
823
00:43:29,086 --> 00:43:30,963
The one that needs to
be there is that woman,
824
00:43:30,963 --> 00:43:32,256
the mama.
825
00:43:32,256 --> 00:43:34,424
I think his mother
ruined his life.
826
00:43:34,424 --> 00:43:37,302
Jenna's parents let us
move in with them and
827
00:43:37,302 --> 00:43:41,223
it gives us a lot more
money to, to get high.
828
00:43:41,223 --> 00:43:43,100
I don't want to quit.
829
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:46,436
We end up having to do
dirt bag research because
830
00:43:46,436 --> 00:43:48,689
none of the authorities
are talking.
831
00:43:48,689 --> 00:43:51,400
And then we found out that
the search warrants were sealed.
832
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,484
There was something in those
search warrants that
833
00:43:52,484 --> 00:43:55,112
law enforcement didn't want out.
834
00:43:55,112 --> 00:43:56,780
That's what the whole
neighborhood wants.
835
00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:57,656
We just want the house gone.
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