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People knew of a guy,
John Lawson,
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who named himself Pazuzu.
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He became a
quote/unquote Satanist.
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He had followers:
the misfits, the outcasts.
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He tried to have orgies
and manipulate people
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into having sex.
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People would come to
Pazuzu's house because
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there was no rules.
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There was always
black metal blaring
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at ear‐shattering volumes.
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♪ (Metal) ♪
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Police today
looking for the bodies of
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two local men
believed to be missing.
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Dude, your house
smells like death.
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"Oh, yeah. It's just the
bodies in the basement."
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♪ (Metal) ♪
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We got a
possible serial killer.
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♪ (Metal) ♪
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We executed a
search warrant.
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They didn't find anything.
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(gun shot)
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Why did all this happen?
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How could we have
let this happen?
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♪
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♪
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(gun shots)
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♪
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(sirens)
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This community
really believe in Satan.
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♪
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These people really
believe in dark forces.
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♪
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They're waiting for the
apocalypse and
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they believe in a
very tactile battle
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between the forces
of good and evil.
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(crowd chatter)
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Between the Devil and
God and his angels.
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♪
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♪
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My name is Chad Nance, and
I am the Editor in Chief
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of the Camel City Dispatch.
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♪
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The Dispatch is a local news
blog I founded with my wife,
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here in Winston‐Salem,
in 2012.
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Ever since
Pazuzu was arrested,
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I've been trying to get
past the rumors and the
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sensationalist headlines to
get to the real story
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behind this man,
his crimes, his victims,
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and how this could have
happened in our community.
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What I'm finding is that this
story's not just about murder.
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It's much bigger than that.
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♪
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No one really knows how many
crimes have taken place.
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I mean, the investigation's
still not over.
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♪
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There could be more victims.
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♪
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Where I kind of made an
emotional connection
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with the story, honestly,
is the story of Josh.
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♪
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What often happens in the
sensationalism is that
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we have headlines that say,
"Satan! Satan! Satan!"
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And we don't understand
a story like
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Josh Wetzler and his family.
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♪
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The guy could've been me.
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♪
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I went through so much.
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Our lives have just been,
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been very
complicated by this.
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And, thinking
about what happened...
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And then, just being part
of a story that's so...
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fantastic, and,
and dark, and terrible.
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And I think sometimes,
you know,
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how did I end up in the
middle of this story?
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♪
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My name is Stacey Carter.
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Josh and I were
together for six years.
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Josh and I met in 1999
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in Olympia, Washington,
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when I was
traveling out west.
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I was twenty‐five.
He was twenty‐two.
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So he was a
little bit younger.
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I wasn't super outgoing,
and being with Josh
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was so much fun because
he knew everybody within
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a very short time, and was
much more outgoing.
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We got a van and
traveled the country.
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He really preferred the
company of people
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who are outside of
the mainstream.
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I loved his
passion for life.
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I loved his dedication
and commitment
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to his sense of right.
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Josh was beautiful.
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I remember seeing him
sleeping after I'd first met him
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and just thinking he had
the most beautiful face that
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I ever seen.
So there was that, too.
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♪
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Josh grew up in Virginia,
and he took
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horseback riding lessons and
loved horses, loved animals.
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He never said no
to a stray dog.
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That was one of the things
that brought us together and
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kept us together,
was that common vision...
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And that connection
with horses.
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♪
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Well, we bought land
and our plan was
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to build a training center.
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He wanted to bring horses
in for rehabilitation.
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And so, we had this dream
and this vision of the farm.
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♪
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And then,
when she got pregnant,
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they settled down,
bought a small farm that
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they were gonna turn
into a horse farm,
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got screwed by a bank,
you know,
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right before all the loan
companies and everything
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started to fail.
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And, Josh's life starts
going downhill there.
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(thunder)
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♪
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So, we lost the
farm in 2008,
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and since then, I've been
working for other people,
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trading work for rent,
but not getting paid.
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♪
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Our dream that we shared
involved having a farm,
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and having our business,
and you know,
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we, we trusted the banks,
the mortgage brokers.
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They said,
"Oh, I'm going to help you,"
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and what they really did was
convince us to do something
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that destroyed us.
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♪
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He ends up with a home
that he can't afford and
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it gets foreclosed on.
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His wife leaves him because
he got desperate and
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he started thinking
about selling drugs.
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I mean, it was pretty benign
stuff like weed and mushrooms,
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but his wife didn't
want his child
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around that sort of thing.
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She still loved him,
she still cared about him,
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but she had to leave.
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♪
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He was the love of
my life, you know.
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I think that we would have
worked out our differences.
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I feel like together we could
have accomplished so much.
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But, his house was searched
and raided by police.
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He had gotten a package
of psychedelic mushrooms
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delivered through the mail.
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Because it was sent
through the mail,
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it was considered a felony.
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It was front page
news in his little town.
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(Laughs)
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♪
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That really kind of
changed everything for him.
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He lost his clients and
his hoof‐trimming business.
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He was searching hard, but
with a felony on his record,
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nobody would give him a job.
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So again, the drug war
takes out another guy.
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Once you've
gotten out of jail,
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we beat 'em down
economically to the point
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that they have to turn back
to crime to try to
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function in a society that
demands a certain amount of,
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you know, economic promise.
It becomes hard.
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♪
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He was struggling.
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Um...
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You know,
for whatever reason,
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he ended up in the
same circle as Pazuzu.
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♪
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We would cut ourselves
and each other.
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Maybe drink the
blood of a bird or so.
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Human beings would pop
a squat in the corner.
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The dogs might eat it.
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There was people naked,
like it was nothing.
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You know, just,
all around having a good time.
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♪
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♪
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So, it's the mid 1990s around
the Winston‐Salem suburbs.
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People knew of a guy
called John Lawson...
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Who named himself Pazuzu.
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Pazuzu had done everything
he could to make himself
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seem scary to the
people in town.
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He was trying to
freak people out.
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He claimed to
sacrifice animals.
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He claimed to be able
to control the weather.
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He had filed his teeth down
with a dremel tool and
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he had tattoos printed
all over his face.
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He became
Winston‐Salem's own
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Manson‐esque icon of depravity,
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and he created
a following of
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disaffected youth
desperate for an escape.
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♪
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Pazuzu had followers,
more or less.
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I was certainly one of them.
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We were these people
who were intrigued by this
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free atmosphere that
he built around himself.
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Are you done now?
Can I move?
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Yes.
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I kind of look at Winston‐Salem
as sort of a black hole.
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There's a lot of people go
down some pretty dark paths
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in this town,
myself included.
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(sniffles)
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♪
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My legal name is
Nathan Anderson.
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I've been in and out of
recovery the past couple years,
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but I relapsed
last summer.
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♪
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I was a straight‐A student,
all my years growing up,
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all through high school.
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I had basically a full ride
to Wake Forest University
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when I left.
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♪
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My entire life, really,
has been defined
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by entertainment:
movies, books,
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television shows,
video games.
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By stories.
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♪
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And, when I found drugs,
it was just like the,
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the next best thing,
the next great story, I guess.
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You know, it just made me
feel good and I didn't have
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to worry about how boring,
or shitty the world was.
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♪
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Pazuzu, to this day,
is the best story.
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(sirens)
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He had, if you will,
a twisted sort of charisma.
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You know, and it's the kind
of charisma that's
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not going to appeal
to everyone,
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but certain minds are
drawn in by that.
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The misfits, the outcasts,
"crazy people", um...
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People living on
the edge, I guess,
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or people who wanted
to live on the edge.
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I never really considered
that there might be
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a little more to that...
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Until I started hearing
these rumors and these
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stories about bodies
and murder and stuff.
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♪
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When I first met him,
we mainly just hung out and
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chilled around and
whatnot, you know,
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maybe did a little bit of
heroin every now and again.
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You know, just a
shit‐ton of drinking,
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and cut ourselves
and each other,
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you know, maybe drink the
blood of a bird or so.
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You know, just all
around having a good time.
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♪
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My name's David Adams.
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I am an old
friend of Pazuzu's.
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I've known him for a
little over a decade, and...
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We used to get
into some shit.
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♪
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People would come to
Pazuzu's house because
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they knew it was free rein.
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There was no rules,
no anything that
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you had to abide by.
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You could piss
in his carpet,
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you could smash a TV,
you could...
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Hit somebody in the
head with a beer bottle,
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you could throw a
knife at his wall.
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It just didn't matter.
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♪
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You knock on the door and
immediately you hear a
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shit‐ton of dogs barking.
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(dogs barking)
261
00:14:18,796 --> 00:14:23,217
And then, Pazuzu
answers the door.
262
00:14:23,217 --> 00:14:25,803
You're greeted with
the smell of just...
263
00:14:29,431 --> 00:14:31,475
Ammonia and urea.
264
00:14:31,475 --> 00:14:34,394
It just smells
like straight urine.
265
00:14:34,394 --> 00:14:36,522
♪
266
00:14:36,522 --> 00:14:39,399
And, and rotting matter,
you know,
267
00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:41,985
greets you as soon as
that door is opened.
268
00:14:41,985 --> 00:14:45,405
♪
269
00:14:45,405 --> 00:14:47,449
He was crazy‐looking
enough, you know,
270
00:14:47,449 --> 00:14:50,786
with the long ratty‐ass
dreadlocks and
271
00:14:50,786 --> 00:14:54,581
all his teeth filed
down to a point.
272
00:14:54,581 --> 00:14:56,542
Which, later
come to find out,
273
00:14:56,542 --> 00:15:00,212
he did high as hell
on meth one day.
274
00:15:00,212 --> 00:15:04,800
♪
275
00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,136
There was always black
metal blaring at
276
00:15:07,136 --> 00:15:09,972
ungodly ear‐shattering volumes.
277
00:15:09,972 --> 00:15:12,266
There was always
glass getting smashed,
278
00:15:12,266 --> 00:15:13,934
people fighting.
279
00:15:13,934 --> 00:15:15,727
(dogs barking)
280
00:15:15,727 --> 00:15:17,020
There was just like,
dirt, and shit,
281
00:15:17,020 --> 00:15:19,231
and like, nasty.
282
00:15:19,231 --> 00:15:21,066
♪
283
00:15:21,066 --> 00:15:23,902
People would get so drunk
there that human beings
284
00:15:23,902 --> 00:15:29,158
would just pop a squat in
the corner and take a crap,
285
00:15:29,158 --> 00:15:31,285
and god knows when it
would get cleaned up,
286
00:15:31,285 --> 00:15:33,996
or the dogs might
eat it, or whatever.
287
00:15:33,996 --> 00:15:35,998
(dogs barking)
288
00:15:35,998 --> 00:15:39,042
(crowd chatter)
289
00:15:39,042 --> 00:15:41,670
You walked into his kitchen,
it was just like
290
00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:44,047
any other kitchen until he
opened up his dishwasher.
291
00:15:44,047 --> 00:15:45,424
When he opened up
his dishwasher,
292
00:15:45,424 --> 00:15:48,093
it was filled with
serious weapons.
293
00:15:48,093 --> 00:15:49,428
(laughs)
294
00:15:49,428 --> 00:15:51,138
(dogs barking &
crowd chatter)
295
00:15:51,138 --> 00:15:54,808
There was people
naked like it was nothing.
296
00:15:54,808 --> 00:15:56,351
He tried to have orgies,
297
00:15:56,351 --> 00:15:58,395
and tried to manipulate
people into having sex,
298
00:15:58,395 --> 00:16:00,647
and doing whatever
they wanted to do.
299
00:16:00,647 --> 00:16:03,358
(crowd chatter)
300
00:16:03,358 --> 00:16:06,111
You can do whatever
the you want.
301
00:16:06,111 --> 00:16:07,446
Nobody's pointing
their finger at me;
302
00:16:07,446 --> 00:16:10,199
nobody's judging me.
303
00:16:10,199 --> 00:16:13,452
It was just free rein.
304
00:16:13,452 --> 00:16:14,995
You know, it's like this
mad place where you can
305
00:16:14,995 --> 00:16:17,080
act out your darkest and
sickest fantasies,
306
00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,874
to no judgement.
307
00:16:18,874 --> 00:16:21,919
And actually, I can see the
appeal for a generation here
308
00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:25,005
who is having a hard
time even finding a job,
309
00:16:25,005 --> 00:16:26,882
you know, the idea
that you can go somewhere
310
00:16:26,882 --> 00:16:29,092
judgement‐free with
no pressure on you,
311
00:16:29,092 --> 00:16:31,220
somebody's gonna give you
drugs and let you behave
312
00:16:31,220 --> 00:16:33,972
however you want,
there's an appeal to that.
313
00:16:33,972 --> 00:16:36,850
♪
314
00:16:36,850 --> 00:16:38,685
He loved filth.
Like, he believed
315
00:16:38,685 --> 00:16:41,980
it gave him like some
type of weird power.
316
00:16:41,980 --> 00:16:45,067
Everything on
the surface was...
317
00:16:45,067 --> 00:16:47,402
It was ugly,
and it was nasty,
318
00:16:47,402 --> 00:16:50,781
but it was fun,
it was cool, it was,
319
00:16:50,781 --> 00:16:53,575
you know, intoxicating,
just like drugs.
320
00:16:53,575 --> 00:17:00,123
♪
321
00:17:03,377 --> 00:17:06,338
He was basically like a
Charles Manson of Clemmons.
322
00:17:06,338 --> 00:17:08,632
♪
323
00:17:08,632 --> 00:17:10,717
I'm Sylvia Lebeau.
324
00:17:10,717 --> 00:17:14,805
I'm related to the situation
just by being at
325
00:17:14,805 --> 00:17:16,765
the wrong place at
the wrong time.
326
00:17:16,765 --> 00:17:20,352
He had this thing
called "fiancées".
327
00:17:20,352 --> 00:17:23,355
He had several
women followers:
328
00:17:23,355 --> 00:17:25,399
Dixie...
329
00:17:25,399 --> 00:17:27,234
Krystal...
330
00:17:27,234 --> 00:17:28,986
Amber.
331
00:17:28,986 --> 00:17:32,322
And he called
them his "fiancées".
332
00:17:32,322 --> 00:17:35,325
That term has always stuck
with me, "fiancées".
333
00:17:35,325 --> 00:17:37,578
♪
334
00:17:37,578 --> 00:17:41,748
He had this sense of power.
335
00:17:41,748 --> 00:17:43,959
The power of fear;
that's where I think
336
00:17:43,959 --> 00:17:48,714
Pazuzu derived most
of his power from.
337
00:17:48,714 --> 00:17:51,174
Pazuzu would tell me all
these crazy stories about,
338
00:17:51,174 --> 00:17:55,554
you know, hurting
and maiming people.
339
00:17:55,554 --> 00:17:58,140
I'd look at him and just
be like, "Okay, buddy.
340
00:17:58,140 --> 00:18:00,934
Sure you did.
You sure do."
341
00:18:00,934 --> 00:18:05,897
(birds chirping)
342
00:18:05,897 --> 00:18:09,151
Pazuzu, I just felt like
he wasn't going anywhere.
343
00:18:09,151 --> 00:18:10,360
He was just kind
of a shit bag, you know.
344
00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:11,820
You know, he just, like,
sat around his house
345
00:18:11,820 --> 00:18:16,950
all the time, never wanted to
do anything positive.
346
00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:19,369
I feel like I was
stuck in a crossroads.
347
00:18:19,369 --> 00:18:21,622
A lot of my friends,
my peers were, like,
348
00:18:21,622 --> 00:18:24,625
getting off on heroin
and stuff like that.
349
00:18:24,625 --> 00:18:26,335
I just wanted to
get away from,
350
00:18:26,335 --> 00:18:28,295
just like the drugs in
Winston‐Salem and
351
00:18:28,295 --> 00:18:30,547
get away from Pazuzu.
352
00:18:30,547 --> 00:18:33,967
I got my GED when
I was sixteen...
353
00:18:33,967 --> 00:18:35,636
Went in the military.
354
00:18:35,636 --> 00:18:37,721
♪
355
00:18:37,721 --> 00:18:40,474
I was a gunner in Iraq.
356
00:18:40,474 --> 00:18:42,684
Pazuzu would call me all
the time on the phone.
357
00:18:42,684 --> 00:18:45,520
He's like,
"You kill anyone?"
358
00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,567
And he wanted to know if
I killed anyone in Iraq.
359
00:18:50,567 --> 00:18:52,361
I've seen what the
world really is like.
360
00:18:52,361 --> 00:18:53,737
It's like, in a war,
dude,
361
00:18:53,737 --> 00:18:55,530
nobody's right or
wrong in a war.
362
00:18:55,530 --> 00:18:58,075
Nobody's good or evil in war.
363
00:18:58,075 --> 00:18:59,660
It's just a different side,
you know.
364
00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:03,163
(exhales)
365
00:19:03,163 --> 00:19:07,376
But, Pazuzu...
366
00:19:07,376 --> 00:19:09,461
He was highly evil.
367
00:19:09,461 --> 00:19:11,672
♪
368
00:19:11,672 --> 00:19:14,216
He had to come up with money
to pay for his probation.
369
00:19:14,216 --> 00:19:16,802
Really, the only avenues
left to him were
370
00:19:16,802 --> 00:19:19,554
selling weed and mushrooms.
371
00:19:19,554 --> 00:19:21,723
And they look on his jacket,
and he's got a felony thing.
372
00:19:21,723 --> 00:19:23,517
They go, "Oh, this
guy wandered off".
373
00:19:23,517 --> 00:19:26,937
I heard a rumor that Josh
had been murdered and
374
00:19:26,937 --> 00:19:29,106
buried in Pazuzu's backyard.
375
00:19:29,106 --> 00:19:34,945
♪
376
00:19:34,945 --> 00:19:40,826
♪
377
00:19:40,826 --> 00:19:42,828
Once you get a drug
charge in America,
378
00:19:42,828 --> 00:19:45,414
your opportunities have
been removed from you.
379
00:19:45,414 --> 00:19:49,751
♪
380
00:19:49,751 --> 00:19:51,545
We have a serious problem
in this nation
381
00:19:51,545 --> 00:19:54,589
about how we stigmatize felons,
382
00:19:54,589 --> 00:19:57,926
particularly first‐time
felons, like Josh.
383
00:19:57,926 --> 00:20:00,011
You have to take away the
morality and you have to
384
00:20:00,011 --> 00:20:02,973
take away the judgement.
385
00:20:02,973 --> 00:20:04,933
You have to understand him
as a human being and the
386
00:20:04,933 --> 00:20:07,686
decisions that he made
that led him to Pazuzu.
387
00:20:07,686 --> 00:20:14,359
♪
388
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,446
He had to come up with money
to pay for his probation.
389
00:20:17,446 --> 00:20:20,574
Really, the only avenues
left to him were
390
00:20:20,574 --> 00:20:23,785
selling weed and mushrooms.
391
00:20:23,785 --> 00:20:29,458
He was driven further and
further away from society.
392
00:20:29,458 --> 00:20:31,668
♪
393
00:20:31,668 --> 00:20:36,840
Last time I saw
Josh was in July 2009.
394
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,967
I came home one Friday and
he was there and
395
00:20:38,967 --> 00:20:43,930
Jared was so excited
to see his dad.
396
00:20:43,930 --> 00:20:45,557
You know, I kind of stayed
out of the way and
397
00:20:45,557 --> 00:20:48,518
let him hang out
there at the farm.
398
00:20:48,518 --> 00:20:50,437
That weekend, I had some
friends come over and
399
00:20:50,437 --> 00:20:52,397
we had a cookout.
400
00:20:52,397 --> 00:20:56,359
And, and Josh made us all
pizzas and we all just,
401
00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,906
we had a really good time.
We had a lot of fun.
402
00:21:00,906 --> 00:21:04,534
He left on good terms,
and then after that... nothing.
403
00:21:04,534 --> 00:21:17,798
♪
404
00:21:17,798 --> 00:21:18,882
Sometimes I wouldn't
hear from him and
405
00:21:18,882 --> 00:21:21,968
I didn't have a phone number.
406
00:21:21,968 --> 00:21:24,429
I didn't have any way to
get in touch with him.
407
00:21:24,429 --> 00:21:27,933
♪
408
00:21:27,933 --> 00:21:30,435
Jared wanted to know
where his dad was.
409
00:21:30,435 --> 00:21:31,978
I just told him that,
you know,
410
00:21:31,978 --> 00:21:33,897
he'd gone away somewhere.
We hadn't heard from him.
411
00:21:33,897 --> 00:21:36,066
And honestly,
I thought that.
412
00:21:36,066 --> 00:21:38,735
♪
413
00:21:38,735 --> 00:21:41,613
I thought that he wasn't
contacting me 'cause
414
00:21:41,613 --> 00:21:44,866
I would tell his probation
officer where he was.
415
00:21:44,866 --> 00:21:46,868
♪
416
00:21:46,868 --> 00:21:48,870
So, I thought he
was hiding from us.
417
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:52,624
♪
418
00:21:52,624 --> 00:21:55,460
Josh's probation officer kept
calling me, and so,
419
00:21:55,460 --> 00:21:57,254
I assumed that they
were looking for him,
420
00:21:57,254 --> 00:21:58,880
but they weren't.
421
00:22:06,263 --> 00:22:08,223
It's like that cliché of the kid
in school who gets in trouble
422
00:22:08,223 --> 00:22:10,976
in 5th grade, and they
write on his permanent record,
423
00:22:10,976 --> 00:22:13,895
"problem child",
right.
424
00:22:13,895 --> 00:22:16,606
That's what happened with Josh
when he got drug charges.
425
00:22:16,606 --> 00:22:19,526
♪
426
00:22:19,526 --> 00:22:21,778
His mom really
became alarmed
427
00:22:21,778 --> 00:22:25,031
when he didn't call
on her birthday.
428
00:22:25,031 --> 00:22:27,576
It was so odd that
Christmas would pass and
429
00:22:27,576 --> 00:22:29,911
he wouldn't contact Jared.
430
00:22:29,911 --> 00:22:41,506
♪
431
00:22:41,506 --> 00:22:43,592
When Stacey did eventually
go to the law enforcement
432
00:22:43,592 --> 00:22:46,595
about Josh, they told her
that they had found Josh's car
433
00:22:46,595 --> 00:22:48,388
seven months before with
the keys in the ignition,
434
00:22:48,388 --> 00:22:50,265
sitting in a parking lot.
435
00:22:50,265 --> 00:22:52,517
And they had never
contacted her about it.
436
00:22:52,517 --> 00:22:57,188
♪
437
00:22:57,188 --> 00:22:59,024
Had I known, I would
have been suspicious that
438
00:22:59,024 --> 00:23:02,110
something had
happened to him.
439
00:23:02,110 --> 00:23:07,198
I would have reported him
missing much earlier on.
440
00:23:07,198 --> 00:23:10,076
You know, I feel like if a
car's found missing that the
441
00:23:10,076 --> 00:23:12,329
family of the owner
should be contacted,
442
00:23:12,329 --> 00:23:15,248
so, you know, that was
something that
443
00:23:15,248 --> 00:23:17,292
I think could have been
handled better.
444
00:23:17,292 --> 00:23:20,253
♪
445
00:23:20,253 --> 00:23:22,213
They look on his jacket
and he's got a felony thing.
446
00:23:22,213 --> 00:23:24,799
They go, "Oh, this
guy wandered off.
447
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:26,051
This guy's a cliché.
448
00:23:26,051 --> 00:23:27,385
He doesn't care
about his family.
449
00:23:27,385 --> 00:23:30,722
He's off getting
high somewhere."
450
00:23:30,722 --> 00:23:32,307
You know, and he's
real easy to write off.
451
00:23:32,307 --> 00:23:34,309
You're not gonna put a lot
of police resources into that.
452
00:23:34,309 --> 00:23:35,894
When you don't have
police resources,
453
00:23:35,894 --> 00:23:38,188
because they don't deem those
people important enough
454
00:23:38,188 --> 00:23:40,023
to spend resources on them.
455
00:23:40,023 --> 00:23:45,278
♪
456
00:23:45,278 --> 00:23:46,821
I was there hanging
out and Paz told me,
457
00:23:46,821 --> 00:23:48,907
"Hey, I got a person
in my basement."
458
00:23:48,907 --> 00:23:50,867
He starts bragging about how
he had the body covered
459
00:23:50,867 --> 00:23:53,954
with cat litter and bleach
to keep the smell down.
460
00:23:53,954 --> 00:23:56,331
They cut off his
extremities:
461
00:23:56,331 --> 00:24:00,377
his arms and his legs,
and his penis.
462
00:24:00,377 --> 00:24:02,253
And they buried
him in pieces.
463
00:24:02,253 --> 00:24:09,594
♪
464
00:24:09,594 --> 00:24:12,389
North Carolina's
in the Bible Belt.
465
00:24:12,389 --> 00:24:15,225
It's God's country.
466
00:24:15,225 --> 00:24:17,727
One of the reasons there was
so much hype around Pazuzu,
467
00:24:17,727 --> 00:24:20,355
and a big part of Pazuzu's
infamy in the local underworld,
468
00:24:20,355 --> 00:24:22,774
and the myth he was able
to build up around himself,
469
00:24:22,774 --> 00:24:24,943
was a direct response
to the evangelical
470
00:24:24,943 --> 00:24:27,362
Christian fervor
of this community.
471
00:24:27,362 --> 00:24:31,157
♪
472
00:24:31,157 --> 00:24:33,994
I do believe in the devil.
473
00:24:33,994 --> 00:24:37,080
The devil preys on the weak.
474
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,667
Winston‐Salem was
full of weak people.
475
00:24:40,667 --> 00:24:44,629
I was a preacher's daughter.
476
00:24:44,629 --> 00:24:47,590
I was heavily
involved in church...
477
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:49,843
Doing the Lord's work.
478
00:24:58,643 --> 00:25:01,312
When I first met Pazuzu,
he told me
479
00:25:01,312 --> 00:25:03,064
that he was the
gatekeeper of Hell.
480
00:25:03,064 --> 00:25:05,233
(dogs barking)
481
00:25:05,233 --> 00:25:09,237
The first time I met them,
I drove Amber ‐ or Bubbles ‐
482
00:25:09,237 --> 00:25:13,116
and Pazuzu home.
483
00:25:13,116 --> 00:25:15,493
When I saw their front door,
484
00:25:15,493 --> 00:25:18,747
that's when I knew something
was highly wrong.
485
00:25:18,747 --> 00:25:21,374
I didn't want to be there.
I wanted to leave immediately,
486
00:25:21,374 --> 00:25:25,962
but they asked me to stay and
watch a home video of theirs.
487
00:25:25,962 --> 00:25:34,721
The video was of Pazuzu and
Bubbles dancing around naked.
488
00:25:34,721 --> 00:25:37,891
Bubbles lying on a
bed in one scene,
489
00:25:37,891 --> 00:25:40,185
doing inappropriate
things to herself.
490
00:25:40,185 --> 00:25:43,688
♪
491
00:25:43,688 --> 00:25:46,483
I knew the video
made me nauseous.
492
00:25:46,483 --> 00:25:48,818
It was intense.
493
00:25:48,818 --> 00:25:51,488
♪
494
00:25:51,488 --> 00:25:54,532
Pazuzu, in one shot,
had a knife...
495
00:25:54,532 --> 00:25:59,954
And a...
bloody bandana on his head.
496
00:25:59,954 --> 00:26:02,373
♪
497
00:26:02,373 --> 00:26:05,919
Apparently,
it was Josh's bandana,
498
00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:09,297
from what I was told by
everyone that hung out with him.
499
00:26:09,297 --> 00:26:14,511
They had trapped him
in a basement...
500
00:26:14,511 --> 00:26:18,056
And they had
starved him for days.
501
00:26:18,056 --> 00:26:20,683
And, either before or
after they shot him,
502
00:26:20,683 --> 00:26:23,228
they cut off his
extremities:
503
00:26:23,228 --> 00:26:28,149
his arms and his legs,
and his penis.
504
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:32,028
And they buried
him in pieces.
505
00:26:32,028 --> 00:26:34,614
Krystal was proud to tell
everyone she knew
506
00:26:34,614 --> 00:26:36,991
that she was involved.
507
00:26:36,991 --> 00:26:42,205
♪
508
00:26:42,205 --> 00:26:44,999
He had spoken to me on
several occasions that
509
00:26:44,999 --> 00:26:48,086
he had killed
homeless people and
510
00:26:48,086 --> 00:26:50,755
done a whole bunch
of other people really badly,
511
00:26:50,755 --> 00:26:53,341
shot a few people,
stabbed a few people.
512
00:26:53,341 --> 00:26:55,343
There was never any proof,
to my knowledge,
513
00:26:55,343 --> 00:26:57,428
of any of these
things happening.
514
00:26:57,428 --> 00:27:00,306
♪
515
00:27:00,306 --> 00:27:04,227
You know, I just thought
that he was trying to look cool.
516
00:27:04,227 --> 00:27:05,937
I was there hanging out
and Paz told me,
517
00:27:05,937 --> 00:27:08,523
"Hey, I got a person
in my basement".
518
00:27:08,523 --> 00:27:09,858
"Okay, cool.
Whatever, dude."
519
00:27:09,858 --> 00:27:13,820
(laughs)
"It's not my problem."
520
00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:16,447
I was told, "If a person
comes out of the basement,
521
00:27:16,447 --> 00:27:18,616
don't let him go."
522
00:27:18,616 --> 00:27:21,703
No one ever made a sound,
no one ever knocked on a door.
523
00:27:21,703 --> 00:27:24,122
No one ever did anything.
524
00:27:24,122 --> 00:27:25,957
I was told that there was
a person in the basement.
525
00:27:25,957 --> 00:27:28,543
I said, "Sure, if they
come out of the basement,
526
00:27:28,543 --> 00:27:30,336
I'll make sure
they don't leave,"
527
00:27:30,336 --> 00:27:32,630
clearly thinking that
they're full of shit.
528
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:34,674
♪
529
00:27:34,674 --> 00:27:39,512
Pazuzu looked at me,
grabbed a very large knife.
530
00:27:39,512 --> 00:27:42,140
It was more or
less a sword, but, ah...
531
00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:45,184
He said,
"I've done something."
532
00:27:45,184 --> 00:27:47,228
He didn't say
what he had done.
533
00:27:47,228 --> 00:27:49,606
He said, "You're gonna
help me dig this hole
534
00:27:49,606 --> 00:27:51,441
or I'm gonna kill you."
535
00:27:51,441 --> 00:27:57,780
♪
536
00:27:57,780 --> 00:27:59,324
When I first heard
about the murder,
537
00:27:59,324 --> 00:28:03,161
my father was hanging out
with Krystal Matlock,
538
00:28:03,161 --> 00:28:05,079
another female
that was involved.
539
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:07,498
♪
540
00:28:07,498 --> 00:28:09,876
My name is Terina Billings
and I was the first person
541
00:28:09,876 --> 00:28:14,005
to come forward to the police
in the Pazuzu Algarad case.
542
00:28:14,005 --> 00:28:17,842
♪
543
00:28:17,842 --> 00:28:20,678
Krystal Matlock,
she invited Pazuzu
544
00:28:20,678 --> 00:28:22,972
and his girlfriend over.
545
00:28:22,972 --> 00:28:25,391
And so, everybody was
having a good time drinking.
546
00:28:25,391 --> 00:28:27,727
A few hours later,
he starts bragging about
547
00:28:27,727 --> 00:28:30,688
how he shot a guy
six times with a shotgun,
548
00:28:30,688 --> 00:28:32,774
and how he had the body
downstairs in the basement,
549
00:28:32,774 --> 00:28:36,402
covered with cat litter and
bleach to keep the smell down.
550
00:28:36,402 --> 00:28:38,321
And we all thought he was
lying 'cause he was drunk
551
00:28:38,321 --> 00:28:39,781
and we were like,
he's crazy.
552
00:28:39,781 --> 00:28:43,826
♪
553
00:28:43,826 --> 00:28:47,205
The day after the party,
my father had left with
554
00:28:47,205 --> 00:28:50,208
Krystal Matlock and they came
back a few hours later and
555
00:28:50,208 --> 00:28:54,379
had Pazuzu's mother,
Cynthia, with them.
556
00:28:54,379 --> 00:28:56,673
My dad had
cut‐off jean shorts on,
557
00:28:56,673 --> 00:28:58,216
he had dirt all over him,
and he didn't have the
558
00:28:58,216 --> 00:28:59,592
t‐shirt on that he
had that morning.
559
00:28:59,592 --> 00:29:01,803
He had no shirt.
560
00:29:01,803 --> 00:29:05,473
I tried to ask questions.
He wouldn't answer me, and...
561
00:29:05,473 --> 00:29:07,392
Cynthia just, there was
something going on at her house.
562
00:29:07,392 --> 00:29:10,561
She just needed to
get back right away.
563
00:29:10,561 --> 00:29:12,230
So, they left,
and when they left,
564
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:14,691
I followed behind them,
followed them to the house.
565
00:29:14,691 --> 00:29:18,111
They pulled into the
garage and my dad came,
566
00:29:18,111 --> 00:29:21,030
saw me pull up in the front.
567
00:29:21,030 --> 00:29:23,157
And he runs across the yard
to the road and just
568
00:29:23,157 --> 00:29:25,493
told me to get the
hell out of there.
569
00:29:25,493 --> 00:29:27,245
And, the way he said it,
I just,
570
00:29:27,245 --> 00:29:30,456
I listened and I left.
571
00:29:30,456 --> 00:29:34,085
My father, he didn't open up to
me at first in the beginning,
572
00:29:34,085 --> 00:29:36,879
but my best friend,
he did open up to her and
573
00:29:36,879 --> 00:29:39,882
tell her everything
that happened as far as
574
00:29:39,882 --> 00:29:43,302
Pazuzu chopping up the body,
burying it in the backyard.
575
00:29:43,302 --> 00:29:45,388
There were other
people there at the time,
576
00:29:45,388 --> 00:29:49,142
but I don't
know their names.
577
00:29:49,142 --> 00:29:53,646
It was very hard to
go to the police.
578
00:29:53,646 --> 00:29:56,357
But, I thought, what if
that was my brother
579
00:29:56,357 --> 00:29:57,942
buried in somebody's backyard?
580
00:29:57,942 --> 00:30:00,528
I would want somebody to come
forward and say something.
581
00:30:00,528 --> 00:30:08,745
♪
582
00:30:10,246 --> 00:30:12,749
They met us at the
Yadkin County park.
583
00:30:12,749 --> 00:30:14,917
I was sitting in the car
with a detective and
584
00:30:14,917 --> 00:30:18,880
he asked me names of the
people that I knew that
585
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,091
were involved, so I told him
Krystal Matlock was one,
586
00:30:22,091 --> 00:30:26,304
Allen Billings ‐
my father.
587
00:30:26,304 --> 00:30:28,848
Pazuzu Algarad,
I called him a caveman
588
00:30:28,848 --> 00:30:30,141
'cause that's what he
looked like to me.
589
00:30:30,141 --> 00:30:32,310
I didn't know his
name at that time.
590
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:34,520
(sirens)
591
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,105
And what did the Forsyth County
Sheriff's Department
592
00:30:36,105 --> 00:30:36,981
do with that information?
593
00:30:37,732 --> 00:30:39,233
Well from what I've heard,
594
00:30:39,233 --> 00:30:41,486
they went to Pazuzu's house,
knocked on the door and
595
00:30:41,486 --> 00:30:42,987
straight up told him that there
had been reports of murder and
596
00:30:42,987 --> 00:30:47,116
bodies buried
in the backyard.
597
00:30:47,116 --> 00:30:48,576
When asked if the
reports were true,
598
00:30:48,576 --> 00:30:51,037
Pazuzu said no.
599
00:30:51,037 --> 00:30:52,663
When they asked if they
could search his house,
600
00:30:52,663 --> 00:30:55,208
he said no again.
601
00:30:55,208 --> 00:30:58,044
So the officer left.
602
00:30:58,044 --> 00:31:00,213
Now, why would
the police do that?
603
00:31:02,507 --> 00:31:12,517
♪
604
00:31:12,517 --> 00:31:24,529
♪
605
00:31:24,529 --> 00:31:27,323
My name is Brad Stanley.
606
00:31:27,323 --> 00:31:29,534
On average, Forsyth
County Sheriff's Office,
607
00:31:29,534 --> 00:31:33,204
in the, in those areas,
we have two,
608
00:31:33,204 --> 00:31:37,667
maybe three
homicides a year.
609
00:31:37,667 --> 00:31:40,795
We had information
previously to go to the
610
00:31:40,795 --> 00:31:43,756
residents through our local
Crime Stoppers program,
611
00:31:43,756 --> 00:31:47,260
where they don't have
to identify themselves.
612
00:31:47,260 --> 00:31:50,471
Unfortunately, just
those tips are not enough,
613
00:31:50,471 --> 00:31:54,058
many times,
to develop probable cause.
614
00:31:54,058 --> 00:31:57,270
♪
615
00:31:57,270 --> 00:32:00,606
So, you're back in 2009,
you've got multiple reports
616
00:32:00,606 --> 00:32:04,861
that Pazuzu has killed and
put someone in his backyard.
617
00:32:04,861 --> 00:32:06,696
You have the Winston‐Salem
Police Department
618
00:32:06,696 --> 00:32:10,241
with Josh's car and with
Crime Stoppers' tips
619
00:32:10,241 --> 00:32:14,537
referring to a "Tazuzu".
I mean, it's ridiculous.
620
00:32:14,537 --> 00:32:16,706
Everybody in the
community knows this guy.
621
00:32:16,706 --> 00:32:18,457
He's absolutely‐‐ He's even
become an urban legend,
622
00:32:18,457 --> 00:32:20,084
or a suburban legend,
623
00:32:20,084 --> 00:32:22,044
and nobody's doing
anything about it.
624
00:32:22,044 --> 00:32:25,214
♪
625
00:32:25,214 --> 00:32:29,594
God put me on
drugs to help Stacey.
626
00:32:29,594 --> 00:32:32,513
When I saw him,
I was like, oh my God,
627
00:32:32,513 --> 00:32:36,309
his dad was murdered by this
guy that I happen to know.
628
00:32:36,309 --> 00:32:41,355
♪
629
00:32:41,355 --> 00:32:44,567
chirping)
630
00:32:44,567 --> 00:32:48,237
I think God put me on drugs,
631
00:32:48,237 --> 00:32:50,281
and God put me where I was,
632
00:32:50,281 --> 00:32:53,743
to help Stacey find out what
happened to her boyfriend.
633
00:32:53,743 --> 00:32:56,412
♪
634
00:32:56,412 --> 00:32:58,831
I was at a party with a
friend I worked with,
635
00:32:58,831 --> 00:33:02,501
and I was doing mushrooms
and hula‐hooping, and...
636
00:33:02,501 --> 00:33:03,920
having a lot of fun.
637
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,422
There was like a
liquor luge there.
638
00:33:06,422 --> 00:33:09,133
And, it was really fun.
639
00:33:09,133 --> 00:33:10,509
And it was like, two,
three in the morning.
640
00:33:10,509 --> 00:33:12,678
She said that she
had to take me home.
641
00:33:12,678 --> 00:33:16,515
♪
642
00:33:16,515 --> 00:33:19,185
So, we were driving
down Silas Creek Parkway,
643
00:33:19,185 --> 00:33:23,022
and we were just
talking, and...
644
00:33:23,022 --> 00:33:25,816
I happened to mention Pazuzu
supposedly killed this guy
645
00:33:25,816 --> 00:33:29,403
named Josh, and
she was like, "What?"
646
00:33:29,403 --> 00:33:31,614
♪
647
00:33:31,614 --> 00:33:37,495
Her face turned shocked.
It was just shock, and surprise,
648
00:33:37,495 --> 00:33:42,583
and just like I had
uncovered a mystery for her.
649
00:33:42,583 --> 00:33:45,503
And, she said, "You need
to meet my friend Stacey".
650
00:33:45,503 --> 00:33:50,716
♪
651
00:33:50,716 --> 00:33:53,594
So, we concocted the plan
that I would get a
652
00:33:53,594 --> 00:33:57,974
voice recording of information
on how Josh died,
653
00:33:57,974 --> 00:34:00,601
or was murdered.
654
00:34:00,601 --> 00:34:02,687
'Cause, like I said,
they were very proud
655
00:34:02,687 --> 00:34:06,774
of what they did and
what they were.
656
00:34:06,774 --> 00:34:12,613
I went with my phone to
record any information I could.
657
00:34:12,613 --> 00:34:17,285
♪
658
00:34:17,285 --> 00:34:20,288
There were several people that
spoke up on the voice recording.
659
00:34:20,288 --> 00:34:22,581
♪
660
00:34:22,581 --> 00:34:26,460
But, the main
voice was Nate.
661
00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:29,255
I started laughing and said,
662
00:34:29,255 --> 00:34:33,301
"Is it true that Pazuzu
actually killed people?"
663
00:34:33,301 --> 00:34:35,136
And, Nate looked
at me and said,
664
00:34:35,136 --> 00:34:37,722
"Well, yeah," like it
was common knowledge.
665
00:34:37,722 --> 00:34:40,725
♪
666
00:34:40,725 --> 00:34:43,394
He said, yeah,
he had killed people.
667
00:34:43,394 --> 00:34:46,022
♪
668
00:34:46,022 --> 00:34:47,690
I went to the Sheriff's
Department with a
669
00:34:47,690 --> 00:34:51,527
voice recording and my personal
knowledge of who was
670
00:34:51,527 --> 00:34:54,488
involved in the murders
and told them what I knew.
671
00:34:54,488 --> 00:35:00,494
♪
672
00:35:00,494 --> 00:35:04,081
I know I looked crazy,
but they didn't take
673
00:35:04,081 --> 00:35:06,500
anything I said seriously.
674
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:10,463
♪
675
00:35:10,463 --> 00:35:13,257
I traveled down to
Salisbury to see Stacey.
676
00:35:13,257 --> 00:35:17,470
♪
677
00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:19,847
I come to this farm
and the farm is pretty.
678
00:35:19,847 --> 00:35:21,932
There's horses everywhere,
and it's just like a
679
00:35:21,932 --> 00:35:25,978
set up for like a
beautiful movie.
680
00:35:25,978 --> 00:35:30,399
We get there and I'm
meeting Stacey, "Hi, Stacey".
681
00:35:30,399 --> 00:35:33,235
I see this boy,
and I'm like,
682
00:35:33,235 --> 00:35:35,237
oh, okay,
there's a kid here.
683
00:35:35,237 --> 00:35:38,240
♪
684
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,326
And then I see him
walk in front of me,
685
00:35:40,326 --> 00:35:44,163
and then it hit me...
686
00:35:44,163 --> 00:35:47,750
His dad was murdered.
687
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:53,839
His dad is buried in the
back of someone's yard.
688
00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:58,010
And I have this huge
breakthrough story.
689
00:35:58,010 --> 00:36:01,514
♪
690
00:36:01,514 --> 00:36:05,518
So many emotions ran through
my mind when I saw him.
691
00:36:05,518 --> 00:36:09,355
Thinking, oh my God,
his dad was murdered
692
00:36:09,355 --> 00:36:11,941
by this guy that I
happen to know.
693
00:36:11,941 --> 00:36:23,369
♪
694
00:36:23,369 --> 00:36:26,122
I think she
feared for her life.
695
00:36:26,122 --> 00:36:28,124
"We murdered a guy.
We shot him in the head.
696
00:36:28,124 --> 00:36:29,250
If you don't
help us bury him,
697
00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:30,668
we're gonna ing
slit your throat,
698
00:36:30,668 --> 00:36:32,044
then we're gonna
bury you with him."
699
00:36:32,044 --> 00:36:33,546
"You're gonna
think I'm crazy,
700
00:36:33,546 --> 00:36:35,464
but I think my son's
father is buried
701
00:36:35,464 --> 00:36:37,258
in a guy's backyard."
702
00:36:37,258 --> 00:36:38,884
This is some fake
Charles Manson shit.
703
00:36:38,884 --> 00:36:44,014
♪
704
00:36:44,014 --> 00:36:55,776
♪
705
00:36:55,776 --> 00:36:57,987
With all the sensationalism
surrounding the Pazuzu story
706
00:36:57,987 --> 00:37:02,032
up to this point, what I
looked and saw was,
707
00:37:02,032 --> 00:37:05,870
Josh Wetzler and Stacey.
708
00:37:05,870 --> 00:37:08,205
A guy who's been taken
away from his mother,
709
00:37:08,205 --> 00:37:10,708
taken away from his son.
710
00:37:10,708 --> 00:37:15,337
All these people's lives are
forever disrupted and changed.
711
00:37:15,337 --> 00:37:17,381
He's left a hole.
712
00:37:17,381 --> 00:37:20,926
♪
713
00:37:20,926 --> 00:37:23,387
A fellow like Josh with a
felony drug conviction,
714
00:37:23,387 --> 00:37:26,432
is just written off
by society, by police.
715
00:37:26,432 --> 00:37:28,559
You know, but there are
people that love him.
716
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,061
♪
717
00:37:31,061 --> 00:37:32,730
You know, when I
heard that he was,
718
00:37:32,730 --> 00:37:34,732
Josh was buried in
Pazuzu's backyard,
719
00:37:34,732 --> 00:37:37,902
I didn't know who that
was or anything like that.
720
00:37:40,863 --> 00:37:42,323
And I went to the police
and I told 'em, I said,
721
00:37:42,323 --> 00:37:44,200
"You're gonna
think I'm crazy,
722
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,535
but I think my son's
father is buried in," you know,
723
00:37:46,535 --> 00:37:49,705
"this guy's backyard
in Clemmons," and then,
724
00:37:49,705 --> 00:37:51,540
it turns out the officer
didn't think I was crazy
725
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:54,460
'cause he had heard
rumors of that already.
726
00:37:54,460 --> 00:38:00,758
(sirens)
727
00:38:00,758 --> 00:38:02,843
We executed a
search warrant at
728
00:38:02,843 --> 00:38:05,888
2749 Knob Hill Drive
729
00:38:05,888 --> 00:38:07,765
in Clemmons,
North Carolina.
730
00:38:07,765 --> 00:38:11,060
♪
731
00:38:28,869 --> 00:38:30,454
Our investigators,
again,
732
00:38:30,454 --> 00:38:34,875
acted on as much information
as they had at that time.
733
00:38:37,127 --> 00:38:40,130
There was no evidence that
we were able to find
734
00:38:40,130 --> 00:38:42,466
based on the information.
735
00:38:45,386 --> 00:38:47,847
We were told that they had
gotten cadaver dogs and
736
00:38:47,847 --> 00:38:50,850
they had done a
search of the yard,
737
00:38:50,850 --> 00:38:52,643
and that they found nothing.
738
00:38:52,643 --> 00:38:55,729
♪
739
00:38:55,729 --> 00:38:58,315
I really did not know what
to think 'cause I was
740
00:38:58,315 --> 00:39:03,737
so sure that Josh was
there in Pazuzu's yard.
741
00:39:03,737 --> 00:39:05,656
When they didn't find him,
742
00:39:05,656 --> 00:39:09,076
I wasn't sure anymore
what had happened.
743
00:39:09,076 --> 00:39:12,746
(sirens)
744
00:39:12,746 --> 00:39:14,915
They sealed the
search warrants.
745
00:39:14,915 --> 00:39:17,543
Now, that's not unusual for
an ongoing investigation,
746
00:39:17,543 --> 00:39:19,086
but I'm starting to think
that there's something about
747
00:39:19,086 --> 00:39:22,131
this case that the sheriffs
don't want us to know about.
748
00:39:22,131 --> 00:39:24,216
They're being tight‐lipped.
749
00:39:24,216 --> 00:39:25,593
I've been reaching
out to them,
750
00:39:25,593 --> 00:39:28,053
but no one is willing
to go on the record.
751
00:39:28,053 --> 00:39:34,977
♪
752
00:39:34,977 --> 00:39:37,855
Even though I didn't have
any evidence of
753
00:39:37,855 --> 00:39:40,357
what had happened to Josh,
754
00:39:40,357 --> 00:39:44,612
Jared needed some answers.
755
00:39:44,612 --> 00:39:48,324
I told Jared that we're pretty
sure that his father had died.
756
00:39:48,324 --> 00:39:51,869
♪
757
00:39:51,869 --> 00:39:55,623
What passed over his face
was like this look of relief.
758
00:39:55,623 --> 00:39:59,752
And, it hit me that like,
for a child,
759
00:39:59,752 --> 00:40:03,505
a parent dying was
way easier to accept
760
00:40:03,505 --> 00:40:06,383
than being abandoned,
you know.
761
00:40:06,383 --> 00:40:08,719
It was almost like when he
thought his dad abandoned him,
762
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,221
that was harder
for him to understand.
763
00:40:11,221 --> 00:40:20,981
♪
764
00:40:22,566 --> 00:40:25,569
♪ (menacing) ♪
765
00:40:25,569 --> 00:40:27,363
Even with the Sheriff's silence
and all the unanswered
766
00:40:27,363 --> 00:40:29,907
questions, I know
there are a number of people
767
00:40:29,907 --> 00:40:35,120
inside of Pazuzu's circle
who know exactly what happened.
768
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,832
I started actually hanging out
with Pazuzu on a regular basis.
769
00:40:38,832 --> 00:40:40,876
I started dating
this girl, Dixie.
770
00:40:40,876 --> 00:40:47,174
♪
771
00:40:47,174 --> 00:40:52,221
She was intrigued with him
and his girlfriend, Amber...
772
00:40:52,221 --> 00:40:55,391
or, Bubbles,
as we called her.
773
00:40:55,391 --> 00:40:59,144
She became real close
with them very fast and
774
00:40:59,144 --> 00:41:02,439
we started going over to
his house to hang out.
775
00:41:02,439 --> 00:41:04,650
(crickets)
776
00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:08,195
She walked out onto their
back porch with me one night
777
00:41:08,195 --> 00:41:11,198
and pointed out
the backyard.
778
00:41:11,198 --> 00:41:15,244
She was like,
"Do you ever stop and think
779
00:41:15,244 --> 00:41:18,789
why the ground is so
uneven out here?"
780
00:41:18,789 --> 00:41:21,333
She was basically
implying that, you know,
781
00:41:21,333 --> 00:41:25,045
he had killed
a lot of people,
782
00:41:25,045 --> 00:41:27,798
or that there were a lot of
bodies buried in that backyard.
783
00:41:27,798 --> 00:41:31,135
♪
784
00:41:31,135 --> 00:41:35,305
She actually divulged
that she helped,
785
00:41:35,305 --> 00:41:40,060
I think, rebury a body.
786
00:41:40,060 --> 00:41:42,146
I think she
feared for her life,
787
00:41:42,146 --> 00:41:45,149
being so close to them.
788
00:41:54,241 --> 00:41:55,784
As I'm coming
back from Iraq,
789
00:41:55,784 --> 00:41:58,120
coming back from
my deployment,
790
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,414
like Fort Lewis,
Washington...
791
00:42:00,414 --> 00:42:03,208
I call her and she says,
"I'm part of the Family".
792
00:42:03,208 --> 00:42:04,251
I'm like, "What the
are you talking about,
793
00:42:04,251 --> 00:42:05,335
'part of the Family'?"
794
00:42:05,335 --> 00:42:08,505
Like, now I know
something happened.
795
00:42:08,505 --> 00:42:10,174
You know,
this doesn't make sense.
796
00:42:10,174 --> 00:42:13,886
Like, this is weird.
You know, this is like Charles‐‐
797
00:42:13,886 --> 00:42:17,556
fake Charles Manson shit,
you know.
798
00:42:17,556 --> 00:42:20,934
I was scared for her
protection and her life.
799
00:42:20,934 --> 00:42:23,062
I bought a plane ticket
for like two days later,
800
00:42:23,062 --> 00:42:24,980
you know, and as soon as
she got off the plane,
801
00:42:24,980 --> 00:42:27,816
she was a different person,
completely different person.
802
00:42:27,816 --> 00:42:30,069
♪
803
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:32,154
We're riding
from the airport,
804
00:42:32,154 --> 00:42:34,948
she tells me
the whole story.
805
00:42:34,948 --> 00:42:36,742
She tells me that
Amber calls her,
806
00:42:36,742 --> 00:42:39,369
she goes to the front door.
807
00:42:39,369 --> 00:42:41,538
And she said, "We murdered
a guy. We shot him in the head.
808
00:42:41,538 --> 00:42:43,290
If you don't help us bury him,
we're gonna slit your throat
809
00:42:43,290 --> 00:42:46,919
and we're gonna
bury you with him".
810
00:42:46,919 --> 00:42:48,837
Amber and her dragged the
body out in the backyard and
811
00:42:48,837 --> 00:42:51,882
they started
digging the hole,
812
00:42:51,882 --> 00:42:54,218
tried to push him in this hole
and the hole was too shallow.
813
00:42:54,218 --> 00:42:56,887
♪
814
00:42:56,887 --> 00:42:58,472
Part of his knee's still
sticking out of the dirt,
815
00:42:58,472 --> 00:43:00,891
so they put a tarp over him,
and she took a picture of it.
816
00:43:00,891 --> 00:43:04,353
♪
817
00:43:04,353 --> 00:43:06,021
That's how I
know all this shit.
818
00:43:06,021 --> 00:43:08,690
This is how I know that there
is a dead body in the backyard.
819
00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:11,068
♪
820
00:43:11,068 --> 00:43:12,653
So, what the do I do?
821
00:43:12,653 --> 00:43:16,323
♪
822
00:43:16,323 --> 00:43:19,076
His aura is
very intoxicating.
823
00:43:19,076 --> 00:43:23,997
You just feel free and
powerful in his presence.
824
00:43:23,997 --> 00:43:25,374
Like, I keep thinking about it,
thinking about it.
825
00:43:25,374 --> 00:43:27,376
Like, it sat there rotting
in my brain for years,
826
00:43:27,376 --> 00:43:30,462
and years, and years, that
there's a body in the yard.
827
00:43:30,462 --> 00:43:32,381
They actually
showed up to his house,
828
00:43:32,381 --> 00:43:34,049
SWAT Team, like,
battle rattle,
829
00:43:34,049 --> 00:43:35,843
like, they're ready to rock.
830
00:43:35,843 --> 00:43:39,888
You would be hard pressed to
be inside the house and
831
00:43:39,888 --> 00:43:41,890
not think that the person
who lived there
832
00:43:41,890 --> 00:43:44,935
was capable of about anything.
833
00:43:44,935 --> 00:43:47,062
He's like,
"Let's kill him right now.
834
00:43:47,062 --> 00:43:48,856
We'll get away with it."
835
00:43:48,856 --> 00:43:51,191
They shot him in his
head and he fell dead.
836
00:43:51,191 --> 00:43:52,067
They murdered my son.
61728
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