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-Top news...
-Monday, April 19.
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Yesterday evening
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Under the cover of darkness
the Super League was officially launched.
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Twelve of the largest clubs
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-announced the spin-off league.
-Twelve clubs,
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six from the Premier League,
to form a breakaway Super League.
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Arsenal, Tottenham,
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Chelsea, Liverpool,
Manchester City and Manchester United
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join Barcelona,
Inter Milan, Atlético de Madrid,
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Real Madrid, AC Milan and Juventus.
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A huge upheaval in soccer.
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Super clubs with these super players...
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Ronaldo, Mohamed Salah, Kevin De Bruyne.
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Supported by
a three and a half billion euro loan
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from the US investment bank J.P. Morgan...
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Billions from J.P. Morgan...
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These teams receive
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more than four times as much money
as the winners of the Champions League.
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There will be a worldwide
war for television rights.
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The Super League:
A profit-maximizing blockbuster event.
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Like vampires, they came
in the middle of the night with the press release.
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That was the first time
that I saw which clubs were joining.
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I was naturally disappointed.
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And I knew nothing about the bank.
I knew nothing about the money.
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What stood out above all was the clear naming of
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from J.P. Morgan
as the sponsor of the operation.
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They were ready,
to invest billions of pounds.
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They said
twelve clubs had signed.
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That's never happened before.
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They betrayed their own people. All of them.
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People you had worked with
and trusted.
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There seems to be a clear
and present betrayal shines through.
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I knew this feeling of insecurity
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from my work in soccer.
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I couldn't believe
that this was happening.
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I said, no, this is a nightmare.
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It was like a knife in my body.
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The knife I felt,
was the same that everyone felt.
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We clearly have a battle ahead of us.
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You can't satisfy everyone.
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We are not all the same.
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What drives soccer,
are the big teams.
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Young viewers want big games
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and drama.
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Unpredictable games,
where anything can happen.
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Something that picks up on why this game
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is the best show in the world.
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The Super League press release
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was a direct confrontation.
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I know about martial arts:
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The more complicated the situation,
the more I concentrate.
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Because for me
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that was a declaration of war.
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1 BILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE
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RECORD TRANSFER
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SUPER LEAGUE: THE GAME OFF THE FIELD
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DAY THREE
APRIL 19, 2021
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SPAIN
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10 AM
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We will see.
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Do you do something
that is so complicated and difficult,
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flies around at the last minute
there's always a lot of paper flying around.
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SUPER LEAGUE FINANCIER
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The work this weekend
was extremely hard.
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The announcement at midnight
was probably the earliest possible time.
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The signing
of the agreement by all teams
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was simply an explosion of happiness.
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FINAL MILAN 2016
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Twelve clubs joined forces,
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to fight the system that had not been
had not been shaken since 1955.
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At the beginning, it was unclear how many people
would actually sit at the table.
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Three? Seven? Ten?
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We never thought
that we would be twelve.
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And the big six in England...
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Yes, getting six,
would be very difficult.
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Everyone knew it would be controversial.
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They knew there would be difficult
discussions with their fans.
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But they thought it was important
for the further development of the sport.
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ITALY
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Good morning.
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It was announced on that
famous April 19, 2021.
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It was an interesting few days.
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CHAIRMAN
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I would say.
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It was not unexpected.
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But there was still a lot to do.
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After the explosion of happiness
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we said:
"Okay, we'd better get back to work."
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Because everyone knew
that Monday would be a difficult day.
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THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION
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SWITZERLAND
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Hello, hello.
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We met on Monday
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and were all very nervous.
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These twelve clubs
generate a lot of money...
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UEFA PRESIDENT
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...and have great influence.
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Then came the press conference.
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We only knew
there were 400 journalists waiting.
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I didn't know in advance
what I would be talking about.
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The important thing for me was
that we got the ball rolling.
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We wanted the European population to
population to jump ship.
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The fans, the governments,
the whole of society.
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Let's tell everyone what's going on.
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I went in,
without anyone asking me beforehand:
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"What are the questions?
What are the possible answers?
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What can I say?"
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I was completely isolated
in my shell.
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For Aleksander Čeferin, the
introduction of the Super League is a failure.
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He was surprised and undermined.
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At that moment
his power and authority threatened to dry up.
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He is fighting for his life.
The Super League is introduced,
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he would be removed as
of European soccer,
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after he had, to a certain extent
collapse for which he was responsible.
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There would be no turning back from that.
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As a lawyer, I made
many bad decisions.
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I asked my father,
who had always been my mentor:
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"When will I stop taking cases
stop taking cases so personally?"
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He said, "If that happens,
you are no longer good."
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Soccer is emotion.
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Soccer is passion.
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This is not a business.
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We came in, we sat down.
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Before that, I tried
to hide my feelings as much as possible.
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But at the press conference
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I had to be sincere
and not be tactical.
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It is important to show
that you are human,
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to admit that you are hurt.
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When you open up, you are yourself.
I was at the press conference.
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I must acknowledge the extraordinary situation
on the eve of this announcement
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and address them during the night.
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I can't say it any clearer at this point
say it any clearer:
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UEFA and the soccer world
stand united
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against the shameful,
selfish proposal,
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we have seen in the last
24 hours.
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He came from a
few clubs in Europe,
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who are driven primarily by greed.
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This idea is a slap in the face
of all soccer fans
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and our society.
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We will not allow this,
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that they take soccer away from us.
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This is about greed,
selfishness and narcissism.
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As a criminal defense lawyer, I have
read out some negative things.
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Sometimes I may seem
a bit too arrogant and aggressive,
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but the moment
you are honest, people realize that.
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Because there is not a lot of honesty
in sport or politics.
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I am angry. I... am angry.
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We have negotiated with 247 clubs.
We negotiated with the leagues.
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We were
supported by the national associations.
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Then we heard rumors
about meetings in dark rooms.
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They speak
in their press release about solidarity...
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They know
absolutely nothing about solidarity.
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The seriousness of what is happening
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required these words.
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LALIGA PRESIDENT
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Clear, clearly communicated words.
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If you are walking on a tightrope,
you must not be careless.
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You can't do things by halves.
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The sports world is horrified.
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We are hypnotized by men,
who normally lurk in the shadows
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and discreetly do business behind a cloud
of smoke from expensive cigars.
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They swapped
their suits for brass knuckles...
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SOCCER COMMENTATOR
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...and beat each other up
each other with cues.
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It was like a live telenovela
in front of the world.
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Andrea Agnelli...
Never have I seen a person who so often
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and lied as persistently as he did.
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We didn't know
that there were some snakes among us.
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But now we know
and are working on it.
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We will
also take legal action.
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Come out in the middle of the night,
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it is difficult,
to have a solution in the morning.
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But I am of the opinion
that as soon as possible
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banned from all our competitions
must be banned from all our competitions, as must the players.
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Participants in a closed league
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are
excluded from the World Cup and European Cup.
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The most important institution
of European soccer
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declares war on the biggest clubs.
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That's crazy!
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In all the years of my reporting
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I have never experienced anything like this
press conference by the UEFA President.
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He is loaded. He is angry.
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...liars and snakes,
who are involved.
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UEFA threatened all clubs,
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that join the new Super League,
from other competitions.
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Presumably there are laws here.
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Can UEFA stop this Super League?
Can it exclude these clubs?
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My colleagues said, "What the hell?"
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Some people asked me
who had advised me.
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I said,
if someone would advise me,
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he would forbid me to talk like that.
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The biting way Čeferin speaks
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towards Agnelli, the betrayal
he addresses is so personal,
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that it tore your heart out.
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He wanted to
animate the soccer public,
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By saying:
"Guys, you need to be angry too,
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I'm not going to do this alone."
And it worked.
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Soccer fans, all of us, come together
and stop this. It can be stopped.
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Marches on stadiums...
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EHEM. PLAYER
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...fans coming together.
Don't let that happen.
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EHEM. PLAYER
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Mobilization and organization.
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Čeferin spoke of snakes and liars.
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What he did at that moment signaled
to the fans: "Stand up and attack."
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Čeferin positioned himself as a populist
and said: "Fans, you are the infantry.
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Turn against your kings."
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It was an outburst of anger.
But you need a strong base.
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Together we had to
bombard the media together.
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THE DEATH OF ARSENAL
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HEAD OF ARSENAL FAN ORGANIZATION
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That is unacceptable. Without us.
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We are democratic,
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have over half a million members.
We argue and represent...
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HEAD OF BRIT. FAN ORGANIZATION
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...the interests of fans...
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BY FANS, FOR FANS
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...day in, day out.
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The first thing I did was inform the fans.
The message I conveyed...
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This is not a drill.
This is a call to arms.
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We were immediately
in campaign mode to contest it.
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STATEMENT FROM ARSENAL
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We contacted the Premier League
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and tried to start a dialog with Arsenal
to start a dialog.
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No matter whether you're an Arsenal,
Chelsea or Manchester United fan.
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We had to make this noise.
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We are against the Super League.
That's how we fight against them.
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We spoke
with fans in Italy and Spain...
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MANAGER EUROP. FAN ORGANIZATION
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...to synchronize the message
as synchronized as possible.
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We managed a crisis.
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"SERIOUS THREAT TO THE GAME"
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We publicly asked Agnelli
to stop this crazy project.
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Javier and Aleksander Čeferin
spoke to each other.
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THE "GURUS" OF THE SUPER LEAGUE
LEAVE THE BAR...
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I wrote to
all the important journalists in Europe.
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LALIGA HEAD OF COMMUNICATIONS
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I saw a tweet
against the Super League,
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I sent it to all those who had seen it in battle.
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for the favor
of the soccer fans.
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It's not about the clubs,
but their owners.
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This... little mafia.
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TOWER
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We must remain steadfast.
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Soccer is for the fans.
It has to stay that way.
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The Super League
needs the English clubs.
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We did what we could,
so that they would turn away.
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And on Monday morning
things really got rolling.
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We fed a monster.
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A store for bigwigs.
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EHEM. PLAYER
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TV MODERATOR
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-Football belongs to the working class.
-Globalization.
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ACTORS
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TV CRITIC
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Just greed, greed, greed.
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Prince William is against the Super League.
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Heads must roll.
Deeds should be punished.
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It is a nuclear war.
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If I had been asked: "How do you get
the royal family, the government,
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Soccer fans and James Corden together?",
I would have been at a loss. Just what?
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But bravo, the Super League.
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TRAINER
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It is not a sport,
if success is guaranteed.
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It's not a sport,
if it doesn't matter whether you lose.
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Soccer makes us fans believe
that anything is possible in life.
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By destroying this idea, the Super League
destroys this idea,
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they basically tell millions of fans:
"Actually, nothing in life is possible."
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It is criminal. A criminal act
against soccer fans in this country.
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Gary was very helpful on Sunday.
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His television program is watched by a
of the soccer community,
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and he immediately spoke out against it.
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I am disgusted, absolutely disgusted.
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They are scavengers
and belong from this club
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and thrown out of this country.
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Punishes them with point deductions
and fines.
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They are not loyal to the country
nor to the leagues.
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Enough is enough.
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The billionaires behind the Super League
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certainly expected
some dissatisfied fans,
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but not with a revolution,
an uprising, a war.
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With the entire soccer community,
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so hundreds of millions
in Europe against you.
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THE TURNING POINT
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Then came the Leeds game.
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That was a real turning point.
The clubs and the fans
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protested against the project.
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To the ESL: Fuck off!
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To the ESL: Fuck off!
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These owners
do it all for themselves.
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"Let's make billions.
The others don't matter."
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Soccer
was intended for the working class.
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It is no longer like that.
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To all fans: write on Twitter
and on Instagram: "We are against it."
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-Away with the Super League.
-We many
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show you few that you
are nothing without fans, you wankers.
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You are already billionaires.
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GREED OUT OF FOOTBALL
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Why do you need more?
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NO TO THE SUPER LEAGUE
R.I.P. SOCCER
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1 MRD. POUNDS LOOTED
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NO TO SUPER GREED
NO 'SUPER' LEAGUE
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DAMN YOU
SUPER LEAGUE
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We pay your wages.
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They warned the owners of the Super League,
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they would lose their most loyal fans.
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You said at that moment:
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"Join the Super League,
but we're not going with you."
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COUNTER-REACTION TO SPIN-OFF
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A tiny approach,
where we thought: "Wait a minute.
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The Super League could fail."
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Today is a live game:
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Leeds United play against Liverpool.
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The Leeds players also protested.
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Warm-up jerseys with "Earn it".
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-Fourteen teams wear them.
-We live in democracies.
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With the right to freedom of expression,
freedom of assembly.
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Never underestimate the power of the collective.
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Kroenke out. We want Kroenke out.
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Says: "We want Kroenke out!"
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We want Kroenke out!
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We want Kroenke out!
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Get out of our club!
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Get out of our club!
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Fuck Stan Kroenke!
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Get out of our club!
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WE LAUGH ABOUT MIKEL
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Fuck the Super League!
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SOCCER IS OURS, NOT YOURS
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SUPER GREED
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The Glazers out!
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We want the Glazers out!
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The Glazers out!
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Old, greedy bastard!
He's an old, greedy bastard!
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Old, greedy bastard!
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NO
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I knew we could
create a certain amount of turmoil,
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but not that the matter
would take on such proportions.
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It was a revolution.
The stadiums were on fire.
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We will continue,
until we get our club back.
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That's what it means to us.
That's what soccer means to the fans.
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When citizens take to the streets,
governments have to intervene.
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This is how we involved the governments,
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especially those of Great Britain.
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Presumably the government had to
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intervene at this stage,
to stop this.
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We had to direct the majority
of our activities to the politicians.
348
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We believe in free markets,
companies and a government,
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that is committed to infrastructure and great
and great public services,
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precisely because we believe in free markets
and entrepreneurship.
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Most people would not have thought
that Boris Johnson and his party
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in the commercial competition
would interfere in commercial competition.
353
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That is not the government's job.
Business is business.
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4:45 PM
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The reaction of the British government
exerted great pressure on the clubs.
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They knew they would get into trouble
if they didn't stop the project.
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In the first 48 hours
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I had an intensive exchange
with UEFA President Čeferin.
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BRITISH FOREIGN SECRETARY
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Fortunately, no one recorded the phone call.
361
00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:40,490
Expletives flew,
and emotions ran high.
362
00:20:40,574 --> 00:20:45,370
There was a lot of pain and a lot of anger
in the air, and we were very honest.
363
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This was still assumed on Monday,
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the Super League would continue.
365
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After all, it was
supported by the most important associations.
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Major investment banks had invested
invested 3.5 billion dollars in the project.
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The fans who protested against their clubs
had such an effect,
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that people said to me: "I've been an
Arsenal fan all my life.
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I... have experienced all the good
and bad times.
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I am just turning
against my club for the first time."
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I decided to make a statement
before Parliament.
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I call on Secretary of State Oliver Dowden.
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There is the Whitehall saying:
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"Very brave, Minister." Means as much as:
"Are you sure you want to do this?"
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It was like David against Goliath.
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00:21:35,796 --> 00:21:38,674
No one should see
that the emperor has no clothes on.
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Soccer is part of our national DNA.
378
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We invented it
and exported it all over the world.
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It has been at the center of
at the center of British life.
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I was horrified
by the announcement of last night's event.
381
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A few owners
want a closed store
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from elite clubs
at the top of the game.
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A league based on wealth
and brand awareness
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rather than on merit.
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00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:09,913
There is a struggle in the British Parliament.
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Attacks and heckling are expected.
Often from within our own ranks.
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What struck me in particular
was that I applauded
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from the opposing ranks.
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We are the government of the people.
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We will not stand by and watch
soccer in a cowardly way
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that is taken,
what millions across the country love.
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It starts with the fans,
and it ends with the fans.
393
00:22:34,188 --> 00:22:35,355
Thank you, Mr. Minister...
394
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We said,
we were against it in principle,
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but the big step was then:
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Do you actively use the power of the state
to prevent this from happening?
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00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:53,582
And that required intensive discussions
between me and the Prime Minister.
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A GAME OF NARRATIVE
399
00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:07,888
It was an emotional rollercoaster ride.
400
00:23:09,348 --> 00:23:12,684
It became very popular,
to be against the Super League.
401
00:23:14,645 --> 00:23:20,400
In the UK, the government
really attacked the concept very quickly.
402
00:23:21,652 --> 00:23:23,779
This is a private initiative.
403
00:23:24,321 --> 00:23:26,990
Sport is not regulated in Europe.
404
00:23:27,074 --> 00:23:31,411
You would expect governments to
let sport sort itself out.
405
00:23:31,495 --> 00:23:35,207
But hey, many are excited,
and we can score political points.
406
00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:38,460
It was very tense.
407
00:23:38,544 --> 00:23:41,713
There were many lies
and a lot of frustration on our side.
408
00:23:42,506 --> 00:23:43,674
SUPER LEAGUE SECRETARY GENERAL
409
00:23:43,757 --> 00:23:47,803
The clubs knew that
UEFA would not behave peacefully.
410
00:23:48,512 --> 00:23:52,224
But we did not expect
with such aggressive behavior.
411
00:23:52,766 --> 00:23:57,271
They defamed her in public
and insulted them in front of others.
412
00:23:57,354 --> 00:23:59,189
The Super League is all about money.
413
00:23:59,731 --> 00:24:03,235
The money of the dozen.
I don't want to say "dirty dozen",
414
00:24:03,318 --> 00:24:06,071
but some people
do not know solidarity.
415
00:24:06,154 --> 00:24:10,701
There is no unity for them either,
but only their pockets.
416
00:24:10,784 --> 00:24:13,662
The story,
that was told was not true.
417
00:24:13,745 --> 00:24:17,124
This is what UEFA
and the company came up with the day before.
418
00:24:19,251 --> 00:24:21,253
It went viral on social media.
419
00:24:21,753 --> 00:24:25,048
Twitter accounts
posted against the Super League.
420
00:24:25,132 --> 00:24:29,803
There was a real organization,
that wanted to prevent our proposal.
421
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:35,684
People just read the headline,
that said,
422
00:24:35,767 --> 00:24:39,104
twelve clubs
wanted to destroy soccer.
423
00:24:39,771 --> 00:24:42,816
But nobody really read
really read our press release.
424
00:24:43,775 --> 00:24:47,779
To put it bluntly: we never wanted to
never want to split off from the system.
425
00:24:48,363 --> 00:24:52,910
We never wanted to seal off this league.
We never wanted to privatize everything.
426
00:24:52,993 --> 00:24:54,077
THE SUPER LEAGUE
427
00:24:54,161 --> 00:24:58,373
Fifteen clubs would have
were given a permanent place for 23 years.
428
00:24:58,457 --> 00:25:03,879
But five places remained each year,
for which others were able to qualify.
429
00:25:05,005 --> 00:25:08,550
Five teams are promoted every year,
and five are relegated.
430
00:25:08,634 --> 00:25:11,428
The familiar dream of smaller clubs,
431
00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:14,723
which thus
the big competition remained.
432
00:25:15,724 --> 00:25:22,022
Leicester City
has the most fantastic soccer fairytale
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00:25:22,105 --> 00:25:24,191
in English soccer history.
434
00:25:24,274 --> 00:25:29,154
That changes the dream, of course, because
only five qualifiers every year.
435
00:25:29,238 --> 00:25:33,075
That is true. But the league
is not closed. It was a hybrid.
436
00:25:34,701 --> 00:25:40,082
That's not true.
We don't want a bigger slice of the cake.
437
00:25:40,165 --> 00:25:41,500
REAL MADRID PRESIDENT
438
00:25:41,583 --> 00:25:43,168
The cake should be bigger.
439
00:25:43,252 --> 00:25:47,089
We generate a lot of resources
for everyone, not just for us.
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00:25:47,172 --> 00:25:48,590
HIGHER ECONOMIC GROWTH
441
00:25:48,674 --> 00:25:51,927
Eight percent
of the income went to Verbund,
442
00:25:52,010 --> 00:25:54,972
so at least
400 million euros per year.
443
00:25:55,055 --> 00:25:58,225
Three and a half times as much
than the current Champions League.
444
00:25:59,393 --> 00:26:04,690
The grassroots should get money,
so that everyone has free access to soccer.
445
00:26:05,357 --> 00:26:09,695
UEFA fanned these flames.
It would be a closed system.
446
00:26:09,778 --> 00:26:14,116
Because it was a major threat
for their four-billion-euro competition.
447
00:26:14,992 --> 00:26:18,328
It was against tradition
and will destroy soccer.
448
00:26:18,996 --> 00:26:21,623
The same was said
when the Premier League was founded.
449
00:26:25,544 --> 00:26:28,589
The soccer association
approved the controversial plans
450
00:26:28,672 --> 00:26:30,090
for a new Super League.
451
00:26:30,174 --> 00:26:32,718
A separate first league of elite clubs,
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00:26:32,801 --> 00:26:36,305
which brings them more profits
from sponsorship and television.
453
00:26:36,388 --> 00:26:39,850
That was the most controversial
move in English soccer.
454
00:26:39,933 --> 00:26:42,060
And it was a renegade league.
455
00:26:43,270 --> 00:26:45,314
We wanted change. The structure...
456
00:26:45,397 --> 00:26:46,773
PREMIER LEAGUE FOUNDER
457
00:26:46,857 --> 00:26:48,692
...of the league was dysfunctional.
458
00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:51,028
And that was very controversial at the time.
459
00:26:51,737 --> 00:26:55,741
It was said that we were interfering with history
and tradition.
460
00:26:56,450 --> 00:26:58,243
The end of English soccer.
461
00:26:58,327 --> 00:27:00,329
A spin-off of the Football League.
462
00:27:00,412 --> 00:27:03,707
They awarded their media rights themselves.
463
00:27:04,208 --> 00:27:05,751
They were given their own administration,
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00:27:05,834 --> 00:27:07,461
independent of the Football League.
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00:27:08,629 --> 00:27:13,258
If we fast-forward through history, the
Premier League is now a national treasure.
466
00:27:13,342 --> 00:27:17,554
Cavani! Unbelievable!
In the last minute of stoppage time.
467
00:27:17,638 --> 00:27:19,848
That's why we love the Premier League!
468
00:27:21,475 --> 00:27:26,980
As an innovator or pioneer
you have to expect harsh words.
469
00:27:36,281 --> 00:27:38,575
We knew it would be met with criticism.
470
00:27:39,952 --> 00:27:45,165
But this type of reaction
cannot be sustained for long.
471
00:27:45,249 --> 00:27:49,545
You have to do it smoothly
and quickly.
472
00:27:50,295 --> 00:27:56,468
Participants in a closed league are excluded
excluded from the World Cup and European Cup.
473
00:27:56,552 --> 00:27:59,263
...at national
or international level,
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00:27:59,346 --> 00:28:04,059
and the players will probably no longer be allowed
for their national teams.
475
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,605
In the last few days
about twenty times with Agnelli.
476
00:28:08,689 --> 00:28:14,444
The extent of the immorality of some...
of some people is truly unbelievable.
477
00:28:14,945 --> 00:28:19,116
We want to improve the system
in which we work.
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00:28:19,616 --> 00:28:20,951
COMPANY ANALYSIS
479
00:28:21,034 --> 00:28:23,620
I'm not one to say:
"We're doomed."
480
00:28:24,830 --> 00:28:29,459
You have to find solutions.
We have to look for alternative ways.
481
00:28:34,923 --> 00:28:37,259
We knew it would be tough.
482
00:28:37,342 --> 00:28:42,598
But with these twelve big clubs
in one line-up, you kind of think,
483
00:28:42,681 --> 00:28:44,308
There should be a way,
484
00:28:44,391 --> 00:28:47,227
the expected
overcome the expected difficulties.
485
00:28:48,395 --> 00:28:50,397
It depends on the narrative style.
486
00:28:51,607 --> 00:28:53,859
This must be made public.
487
00:28:58,155 --> 00:29:02,492
So Florentino spoke
on Monday at El Chiringuito
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00:29:02,576 --> 00:29:05,245
and managed to
explain our plan.
489
00:29:05,329 --> 00:29:08,415
Florentino Pérez,
Super League President.
490
00:29:08,498 --> 00:29:11,460
How did you
into this chaos?
491
00:29:12,044 --> 00:29:14,922
Nobody has made a mess.
492
00:29:15,005 --> 00:29:18,675
The most important clubs
from England, Italy and Spain
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00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:23,472
have to find a solution for a very
bad situation in soccer.
494
00:29:23,555 --> 00:29:29,645
Is it really the best thing for soccer
or for a few, the most powerful?
495
00:29:29,728 --> 00:29:33,357
-No, not at all.
-The competition would only be for her.
496
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,610
No.
It would generate more money for everyone.
497
00:29:36,693 --> 00:29:39,571
Soccer has to evolve,
just like life.
498
00:29:39,655 --> 00:29:42,574
Just like companies, just like us.
499
00:29:42,658 --> 00:29:47,663
Like people, our behavior,
mentalities and the entertainment industry.
500
00:29:47,746 --> 00:29:51,750
Soccer must change
and adapt to today's world.
501
00:29:52,501 --> 00:29:55,462
We want to defend soccer.
502
00:29:55,546 --> 00:29:59,800
And we want to defend the fans,
the true owners of soccer.
503
00:29:59,883 --> 00:30:04,012
What the fans want,
determines what we have to do.
504
00:30:04,471 --> 00:30:10,352
Seventy-two percent of fans
in Italy are in favor of the Super League.
505
00:30:10,435 --> 00:30:12,896
In France, 71% are in favor.
506
00:30:13,355 --> 00:30:15,691
And in Spain, 76% are in favor.
507
00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:24,992
There is a silent majority.
We conducted two surveys.
508
00:30:25,075 --> 00:30:29,413
The younger they were, the more
they supported our proposal.
509
00:30:29,496 --> 00:30:34,209
The fans in countries like Spain
and Italy were more united in their support.
510
00:30:34,293 --> 00:30:39,256
They feel the frustration that fans of the
English Premier League do not feel.
511
00:30:39,339 --> 00:30:43,010
The frustration,
of losing soccer in their country.
512
00:30:43,093 --> 00:30:47,181
Yes, a minority took to the streets.
513
00:30:47,264 --> 00:30:51,935
I am convinced that if they had heard the true
story about our proposal,
514
00:30:52,019 --> 00:30:54,605
they wouldn't have been so aggressive
against us.
515
00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:59,234
UEFA spread untruths.
516
00:30:59,318 --> 00:31:04,406
That it would be a closed league,
that it would be the end of national leagues,
517
00:31:04,489 --> 00:31:06,408
that we would only want money.
518
00:31:06,825 --> 00:31:11,371
Real Madrid belongs to the members,
as does Barcelona.
519
00:31:11,455 --> 00:31:13,999
Juventus is a centuries-old club.
520
00:31:14,082 --> 00:31:19,338
The Agnelli family has
to the joy of soccer for 100 years.
521
00:31:19,796 --> 00:31:25,260
We are not the ones who have anything other
than the good of soccer.
522
00:31:25,344 --> 00:31:29,640
Is UEFA even allowed to
take legal action?
523
00:31:29,723 --> 00:31:33,560
We have only
published a press release.
524
00:31:33,644 --> 00:31:35,479
They threaten participating players.
525
00:31:35,562 --> 00:31:40,150
Some people think
that these institutions belong to them.
526
00:31:40,234 --> 00:31:41,652
They do not.
527
00:31:42,402 --> 00:31:46,532
UEFA is not characterized by
is not characterized by a clean slate.
528
00:31:47,115 --> 00:31:53,872
But this is a common mistake
among managers of monopolies.
529
00:31:55,457 --> 00:31:57,709
-UEFA is a monopoly?
-Clear.
530
00:31:57,793 --> 00:32:02,381
THE CRITICISM OF UEFA
531
00:32:02,464 --> 00:32:04,049
EHEM. UEFA COMPLIANCE MANAGER
532
00:32:04,132 --> 00:32:07,094
The twelve
Super League clubs have valid arguments.
533
00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:12,057
The game on the pitch
is fair and transparent.
534
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:16,103
But off the pitch
the clubs are getting angrier and angrier,
535
00:32:16,186 --> 00:32:21,358
because they believe
UEFA applies the rules selectively,
536
00:32:21,441 --> 00:32:23,527
to favor certain interests.
537
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:32,327
UEFA has something
called "Financial Fair Play".
538
00:32:32,411 --> 00:32:34,538
Cost control mechanisms for clubs.
539
00:32:35,163 --> 00:32:38,625
That basically means:
"Spend only what you have."
540
00:32:38,709 --> 00:32:41,920
The rules
of financial fair play,
541
00:32:42,004 --> 00:32:46,592
the clubs have to show UEFA
what they generate
542
00:32:46,675 --> 00:32:51,722
and where the money comes from to contain the massive
the owners' massive additional expenditure,
543
00:32:51,805 --> 00:32:53,932
who buy their way to the top.
544
00:32:54,474 --> 00:32:56,185
The panel found...
545
00:32:56,268 --> 00:32:57,436
EHEM. FIFA GUIDANCE
546
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,688
...in cases like Manchester City and PSG,
547
00:32:59,771 --> 00:33:05,402
that the club owners through the sponsorship of
of companies controlled by them
548
00:33:05,485 --> 00:33:10,157
indirect, artificial ways
would have been found,
549
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,535
to pump more money into the club,
550
00:33:13,619 --> 00:33:18,415
than were generated by revenue.
551
00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:20,375
This is called financial doping.
552
00:33:20,459 --> 00:33:25,005
And this threatened the exclusion
from the Champions League.
553
00:33:25,589 --> 00:33:26,965
The ultimate sanction.
554
00:33:28,383 --> 00:33:31,261
You look at the clubs
where that was the case.
555
00:33:31,345 --> 00:33:34,681
PSG, Manchester City,
two clubs from the Middle East,
556
00:33:34,765 --> 00:33:36,558
and AC Milan.
557
00:33:36,642 --> 00:33:41,021
These are major cases where the clubs
have largely got away with it.
558
00:33:41,104 --> 00:33:42,356
UEFA PRESIDENT
559
00:33:42,439 --> 00:33:45,275
When Aleksander Čeferin
became UEFA President,
560
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,654
he made clear,
clubs were in breach of the regulation,
561
00:33:48,737 --> 00:33:50,113
they would have problems.
562
00:33:50,197 --> 00:33:54,117
However, when it comes to enforcing
of these rules, nothing happens.
563
00:33:54,201 --> 00:33:55,619
DEADLINE NOT MET
564
00:33:55,702 --> 00:34:01,250
UEFA missed its own
own deadline, and PSG remains unpunished.
565
00:34:02,209 --> 00:34:06,922
The result of PSG's investigation was:
566
00:34:07,005 --> 00:34:09,550
"It may seem suspicious,
but it's all right.
567
00:34:09,632 --> 00:34:10,926
There are no sanctions."
568
00:34:11,009 --> 00:34:14,346
PSG'S APPEAL IS ADMISSIBLE
569
00:34:14,429 --> 00:34:19,601
We have adhered to the rules of
to the rules of financial fair play.
570
00:34:19,685 --> 00:34:21,562
PSG FREED FROM SPORTING
FREED FROM RESTRICTIONS
571
00:34:21,645 --> 00:34:24,313
Man City also got off lightly.
572
00:34:26,315 --> 00:34:28,985
Will the incident...
573
00:34:29,069 --> 00:34:30,696
CHAIRMAN
574
00:34:30,779 --> 00:34:35,367
...judged on the basis of facts,
we will undoubtedly be proved right.
575
00:34:35,951 --> 00:34:38,579
SPORTS ARBITRATION COURT DECIDES:
576
00:34:38,661 --> 00:34:40,956
PANEL SAYS UEFA'S MAIN ALLEGATIONS
577
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:42,958
WOULD HAVE TO BE REJECTED
578
00:34:43,041 --> 00:34:45,627
We defend
our position professionally.
579
00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:49,672
I don't think it's good that we
only talk about Manchester City.
580
00:34:49,755 --> 00:34:54,553
We penalized
five to ten clubs per season.
581
00:34:55,554 --> 00:34:57,639
This is a normal procedure.
582
00:34:59,016 --> 00:35:02,394
UEFA wants to create the best product,
583
00:35:02,477 --> 00:35:07,316
so UEFA, by its very nature
not particularly interested in it,
584
00:35:07,399 --> 00:35:11,028
one of the most successful clubs
from their biggest stage.
585
00:35:13,447 --> 00:35:16,658
I keep myself
out of the disciplinary work.
586
00:35:16,742 --> 00:35:19,494
The organs are the ones
who decide,
587
00:35:19,578 --> 00:35:23,665
without any influence
of the political leadership of UEFA.
588
00:35:24,583 --> 00:35:28,420
And I deliberately
nothing about the case.
589
00:35:33,091 --> 00:35:36,220
Another example
of conflicts of interest
590
00:35:36,303 --> 00:35:41,391
is the role that the chairman
of Paris Saint-Germain
591
00:35:41,475 --> 00:35:43,685
in various
areas of soccer.
592
00:35:45,562 --> 00:35:48,398
Nasser Al-Khelaifi
stands between two worlds.
593
00:35:48,482 --> 00:35:53,403
He is the figurehead of the nouveau riche club
club that buys the best players.
594
00:35:53,487 --> 00:35:58,367
On the other hand, he is the boss
of the television station beIN Sport...
595
00:36:00,744 --> 00:36:05,040
...who buys television rights from UEFA
worth billions of euros.
596
00:36:05,123 --> 00:36:10,170
And then Mr. Al-Khelaifi
also took on another role in 2019.
597
00:36:10,754 --> 00:36:14,508
He became part of the Executive Committee
of UEFA, its executive committee.
598
00:36:15,175 --> 00:36:18,762
Now for the ratification of the members
of the UEFA Executive Committee.
599
00:36:19,596 --> 00:36:23,100
Mr. Nasser Al-Khelaifi,
Paris Saint-Germain, France.
600
00:36:23,851 --> 00:36:26,103
As a member of the UEFA Executive Committee
601
00:36:26,186 --> 00:36:27,729
you are involved in everything important.
602
00:36:27,813 --> 00:36:31,066
What happens,
influences the future of the game.
603
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,614
If the person with whom
you do business with is on your own board,
604
00:36:37,698 --> 00:36:40,158
she has a lot of power and influence.
605
00:36:40,701 --> 00:36:46,790
The crowning glory of Al-Khelaifi's position
as the man of the company
606
00:36:46,874 --> 00:36:50,377
then took place
as a result of the Super League.
607
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:55,299
I present to you
ECA Chairman Nasser Al-Khelaifi.
608
00:36:55,382 --> 00:37:00,095
Many people talk about all their
roles and possible conflicts.
609
00:37:00,179 --> 00:37:01,805
How do you deal with this?
610
00:37:01,889 --> 00:37:06,351
I was asked to become chairman.
I didn't ask for it. I was asked for it.
611
00:37:06,435 --> 00:37:09,479
It is once again an honor
to serve and help.
612
00:37:09,563 --> 00:37:14,067
In each of my roles, I try to
to help as much as possible.
613
00:37:14,151 --> 00:37:17,154
I am proud to be part of the family.
614
00:37:17,237 --> 00:37:21,992
My lawyers check everything,
I do and can't do.
615
00:37:22,576 --> 00:37:27,164
I will not take part in any conflict.
But if there is a crisis...
616
00:37:27,497 --> 00:37:28,498
"Please help us."
617
00:37:28,582 --> 00:37:30,250
PSG PRESIDENT
618
00:37:30,334 --> 00:37:34,796
You see, all is well, oh, there could be
there could be a conflict. That's unfair.
619
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:39,718
For me, it is sometimes
really difficult to accept.
620
00:37:39,801 --> 00:37:42,346
Because I'm trying to help.
621
00:37:50,521 --> 00:37:53,232
This is nothing personal.
622
00:37:53,315 --> 00:37:55,359
The system allows this to happen.
623
00:37:58,737 --> 00:38:00,989
A transnational activity,
624
00:38:01,073 --> 00:38:04,326
which is subject to no or very
regulation.
625
00:38:04,952 --> 00:38:07,955
And it is about
multi-billion dollar interests.
626
00:38:08,622 --> 00:38:13,001
This enables an enormous concentration
of power at the top.
627
00:38:14,211 --> 00:38:16,630
Soccer is ruled
ruled by a political cartel.
628
00:38:18,715 --> 00:38:23,178
Who makes sure
that everything UEFA does is compliant?
629
00:38:23,971 --> 00:38:27,891
UEFA itself. They have internal,
supposedly independent committees,
630
00:38:27,975 --> 00:38:30,894
who control everything UEFA does.
631
00:38:30,978 --> 00:38:32,980
But all in the same organization.
632
00:38:33,689 --> 00:38:36,692
UEFA
is not controlled by any government
633
00:38:36,775 --> 00:38:40,195
and is not accountable to anyone
about its activities.
634
00:38:41,864 --> 00:38:45,033
They are above all countries,
all governments.
635
00:38:46,368 --> 00:38:50,914
UEFA earns billions
of dollars, but at the same time is
636
00:38:50,998 --> 00:38:54,042
the judiciary and the regulator.
637
00:38:54,126 --> 00:38:57,129
All these powers
are centralized in one place
638
00:38:57,212 --> 00:38:58,547
and are subordinate to a man.
639
00:39:00,674 --> 00:39:05,179
You really have to be careful,
to understand Aleksander Čeferin
640
00:39:05,262 --> 00:39:09,766
not as heroes
or as a white knight.
641
00:39:11,185 --> 00:39:15,063
He has compromised on the Champions League
compromises.
642
00:39:15,814 --> 00:39:18,734
He understood the nature of power
643
00:39:18,817 --> 00:39:21,862
and how it
its impact within European soccer.
644
00:39:22,863 --> 00:39:28,493
UEFA is the 100% organizer of all
of all pan-European competitions
645
00:39:28,577 --> 00:39:32,289
and the gatekeeper who decides
who becomes part of the market.
646
00:39:32,873 --> 00:39:37,085
If they don't like what I say, I'm out of the system
out of the system overnight.
647
00:39:38,295 --> 00:39:40,005
People agree with you,
648
00:39:40,088 --> 00:39:45,886
but do not dare to say this in front of cameras
or recorded.
649
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:51,099
They would rather not continue
against the interests of UEFA
650
00:39:51,183 --> 00:39:52,476
or its president.
651
00:39:54,311 --> 00:39:59,066
The statement that UEFA
is in a conflict of interest,
652
00:39:59,149 --> 00:40:02,611
because we sanction the clubs
and manage the competitions,
653
00:40:02,694 --> 00:40:07,449
is complete nonsense in my eyes.
And we have proven that many times.
654
00:40:07,533 --> 00:40:09,701
The rules are the same for everyone.
655
00:40:10,953 --> 00:40:13,247
The system is good.
Not since I've been here
656
00:40:13,330 --> 00:40:16,416
or because I'm here.
The system is simply good.
657
00:40:18,836 --> 00:40:22,422
We just wanted to protect ourselves,
to be able to work in peace,
658
00:40:22,506 --> 00:40:27,261
and without these constant threats
from UEFA and FIFA.
659
00:40:34,351 --> 00:40:37,312
UEFA is the European governing body,
660
00:40:38,063 --> 00:40:43,735
FIFA is
the global governing body of sport.
661
00:40:43,819 --> 00:40:46,321
It is the epitome
of governance.
662
00:40:46,405 --> 00:40:48,699
It is the "company" of soccer,
663
00:40:48,782 --> 00:40:53,745
where the FIFA President is the President
of the most popular sport in the world.
664
00:40:55,205 --> 00:40:57,207
Whether friend or foe,
665
00:40:57,916 --> 00:41:01,003
do not betray us,
because we will have no mercy.
666
00:41:01,086 --> 00:41:03,672
THE IMPERATOR
667
00:41:03,755 --> 00:41:04,756
FIFA PRESIDENT
668
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,428
Gianni Infantino travels around and
at the highest tables in the world.
669
00:41:10,512 --> 00:41:14,391
For me, hiding was
never an option for me. I act.
670
00:41:14,975 --> 00:41:17,561
He likes to surround himself with celebrities,
671
00:41:17,644 --> 00:41:20,063
Wealth and powerful leaders.
672
00:41:20,147 --> 00:41:21,315
That is soccer.
673
00:41:21,398 --> 00:41:25,861
People vie for supremacy,
whether on the field or off it.
674
00:41:26,445 --> 00:41:27,654
FIFA has changed.
675
00:41:27,738 --> 00:41:29,656
This is a new FIFA.
676
00:41:30,282 --> 00:41:33,535
He is a man
who wants to leave a legacy.
677
00:41:34,036 --> 00:41:37,831
And Infantino has that level of ambition
678
00:41:38,707 --> 00:41:41,960
to aspire to this role.
679
00:41:43,045 --> 00:41:45,088
I am the FIFA President.
680
00:41:45,172 --> 00:41:47,508
I don't have a
a strained relationship.
681
00:41:49,218 --> 00:41:54,598
At the end of 2020, the first reports
about a Super League project emerged.
682
00:41:54,681 --> 00:41:56,141
EHEM. BARCELONA PRESIDENT
683
00:41:56,225 --> 00:42:00,229
The Board of Directors
will determine the conditions of participation
684
00:42:00,312 --> 00:42:05,359
in a future European Super League
of soccer clubs.
685
00:42:05,943 --> 00:42:08,362
So say Čeferin and Infantino:
686
00:42:08,445 --> 00:42:13,283
"Let's make a statement
and say that's not going to happen."
687
00:42:13,992 --> 00:42:19,581
Infantino told me that he did not
disagreed with the Super League.
688
00:42:19,665 --> 00:42:24,378
No organization respects this renegade league.
organization, including FIFA.
689
00:42:24,461 --> 00:42:29,842
It is therefore only logical to stand together
against this renegade league.
690
00:42:29,925 --> 00:42:33,595
In January we signed
a declaration with Infantino,
691
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:36,765
that players from the renegade competition
692
00:42:36,849 --> 00:42:39,852
neither in our competition
be allowed to participate
693
00:42:39,935 --> 00:42:41,270
still at the World Cup.
694
00:42:41,353 --> 00:42:42,354
JANUARY 2021
695
00:42:42,437 --> 00:42:45,732
FIFA has just published
a statement just now,
696
00:42:45,816 --> 00:42:47,943
which all six confederations
signed
697
00:42:48,026 --> 00:42:52,030
and which states that players
of the non-sanctioned Super League
698
00:42:52,114 --> 00:42:55,868
from international soccer and from
World Cups.
699
00:42:55,951 --> 00:42:58,996
National championships
were denied them.
700
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:03,500
Players banned from playing
701
00:43:03,584 --> 00:43:08,922
for their national teams,
was a great disappointment.
702
00:43:09,548 --> 00:43:13,135
This motivated the clubs even more,
to say: "Enough is enough.
703
00:43:13,218 --> 00:43:16,221
This must stop.
The monopoly must be stopped."
704
00:43:16,305 --> 00:43:20,184
THE COURT OF LEGAL OPINION
705
00:43:20,267 --> 00:43:21,476
JANUARY 2021
706
00:43:23,103 --> 00:43:24,104
APRIL 19, 2021
707
00:43:28,442 --> 00:43:31,028
We knew
they could use the threats
708
00:43:31,111 --> 00:43:32,487
from January.
709
00:43:33,822 --> 00:43:37,576
So we took advantage of the protection
of the European courts,
710
00:43:37,659 --> 00:43:41,079
to stop them from
from threatening us. That is illegal.
711
00:43:42,206 --> 00:43:45,751
UEFA wanted to ban us
to ban us from the Champions League.
712
00:43:45,834 --> 00:43:50,214
To defend ourselves against these threats
and insults,
713
00:43:50,297 --> 00:43:53,550
we had to
turn to the Spanish justice system.
714
00:43:54,426 --> 00:43:59,014
We want the values of the
of the European Union are fulfilled,
715
00:43:59,097 --> 00:44:01,433
prohibit the formation of monopolies.
716
00:44:02,684 --> 00:44:05,062
We were threatened on a massive scale.
717
00:44:05,145 --> 00:44:09,149
We were threatened to exclude clubs from ongoing
competitions.
718
00:44:09,775 --> 00:44:14,821
Players should be excluded from national
competitions should be excluded.
719
00:44:14,905 --> 00:44:17,866
The sanction was something that...
It was predictable.
720
00:44:19,076 --> 00:44:22,371
We sued
before the Commercial Court in Madrid,
721
00:44:22,454 --> 00:44:27,251
to clarify
whether UEFA is acting as a monopolist
722
00:44:27,334 --> 00:44:28,836
and exploits its dominant position,
723
00:44:28,919 --> 00:44:32,214
to prevent the introduction
new products.
724
00:44:32,714 --> 00:44:35,342
The case crystallized:
725
00:44:35,425 --> 00:44:40,472
"You can either be the organizer of the
biggest event in world soccer
726
00:44:40,556 --> 00:44:45,102
or the police officer, the supervising organization
organization over all of this."
727
00:44:45,185 --> 00:44:48,063
At this moment you have
a dirty soup,
728
00:44:48,146 --> 00:44:50,399
in which all this was stirred together.
729
00:44:50,482 --> 00:44:53,485
And it starts to taste
tasting increasingly awful.
730
00:44:54,027 --> 00:44:58,740
When money is at stake for the
of competition, money is at stake,
731
00:44:58,824 --> 00:44:59,992
innovation is impossible.
732
00:45:00,576 --> 00:45:04,830
Anything that proposes to change the existing
competition,
733
00:45:04,913 --> 00:45:08,125
goes against the one
who basically makes the rules
734
00:45:08,208 --> 00:45:09,877
and can beat you with it.
735
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,713
It's like the number
of soaps in the supermarket.
736
00:45:12,796 --> 00:45:14,298
You choose your favorite.
737
00:45:14,381 --> 00:45:18,051
And I think the same should
also apply to competitions.
738
00:45:18,135 --> 00:45:20,846
The judges will decide on this.
739
00:45:20,929 --> 00:45:22,681
Čeferin as a lawyer
740
00:45:22,764 --> 00:45:26,143
discusses with other lawyers,
whether this would be possible.
741
00:45:26,226 --> 00:45:30,939
So that participants in the Super League
be allowed to take part in UEFA competitions.
742
00:45:31,023 --> 00:45:34,943
And it gets even more dramatic.
We'll get to that.
743
00:45:35,444 --> 00:45:37,654
It was said that UEFA had a monopoly.
744
00:45:37,738 --> 00:45:41,491
She would have if we said:
"Other competitions are off limits for you,
745
00:45:41,575 --> 00:45:44,494
we forbid it
and have the power to do so."
746
00:45:44,578 --> 00:45:48,624
But we never did. We said:
"Do you enter other competitions,
747
00:45:48,707 --> 00:45:50,209
then not ours."
748
00:45:50,292 --> 00:45:53,045
This is anything but
than anti-competitive.
749
00:45:53,128 --> 00:45:58,675
This idea is a slap in the face
of all soccer fans.
750
00:45:59,259 --> 00:46:04,223
Čeferin is a lawyer. It would be surprising
if he did not know what effects
751
00:46:04,306 --> 00:46:07,768
his threats had
and that he had chosen a path,
752
00:46:07,851 --> 00:46:10,437
which could lead to legal entanglements
could lead to legal entanglements.
753
00:46:10,521 --> 00:46:14,608
We must ban them as quickly as possible
from all our competitions as quickly as possible.
754
00:46:14,691 --> 00:46:18,529
It was a gamble,
to gather the troops,
755
00:46:18,612 --> 00:46:20,781
because he took it so personally.
756
00:46:20,864 --> 00:46:22,991
I am angry. I am angry, but...
757
00:46:23,075 --> 00:46:27,037
So it's not surprising
that he fell into a trap,
758
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,916
which should lead to a lawsuit in Madrid,
an interim injunction.
759
00:46:32,167 --> 00:46:35,838
Has he gone too far with the courts
gone too far?
760
00:46:41,677 --> 00:46:44,888
Everyone hates governments
and government bodies.
761
00:46:46,348 --> 00:46:50,602
But our competitions are fantastic,
and anyone can take part.
762
00:46:50,686 --> 00:46:53,897
That is the difference
to all these elitist things,
763
00:46:53,981 --> 00:46:57,442
where you isolate yourself
and think you're the greatest,
764
00:46:57,526 --> 00:47:00,863
and its own system
is the best for soccer.
765
00:47:03,949 --> 00:47:07,411
In the battle for the Super League
the social democracy fought
766
00:47:07,494 --> 00:47:10,873
against the merciless
shark capitalism,
767
00:47:10,956 --> 00:47:13,000
who is ruining the world.
768
00:47:13,959 --> 00:47:15,752
Not everything is for sale.
769
00:47:15,836 --> 00:47:17,629
Some things are sacred.
770
00:47:21,049 --> 00:47:25,220
The Super League clubs said:
"Yes, it generates a lot of revenue,
771
00:47:25,304 --> 00:47:27,806
which we will pass on to small clubs
will pass on."
772
00:47:27,890 --> 00:47:30,976
I think from experience,
this is highly unlikely.
773
00:47:32,394 --> 00:47:34,938
These owners don't care about small clubs.
774
00:47:35,814 --> 00:47:38,984
They say: "We didn't have a chance
to explain ourselves."
775
00:47:39,484 --> 00:47:41,570
Oh come on. Come on. Behave yourselves.
776
00:47:44,948 --> 00:47:47,326
It was the secrecy.
777
00:47:47,868 --> 00:47:53,874
I think it's funny when they say
it's for the good of soccer.
778
00:47:53,957 --> 00:47:57,419
We help the others."
Then why are you hiding it?
779
00:47:57,503 --> 00:48:00,464
Don't play Robin Hood.
That's not true.
780
00:48:02,633 --> 00:48:04,301
To believe,
781
00:48:04,384 --> 00:48:08,931
that the owners had benevolent
would be illusory.
782
00:48:10,182 --> 00:48:14,603
For so long, soccer has
not for the good of the sport
783
00:48:14,686 --> 00:48:16,313
or the fans,
784
00:48:16,939 --> 00:48:19,483
but for those
who made it in there.
785
00:48:21,652 --> 00:48:24,821
Soccer
has become a zero-sum game.
786
00:48:24,905 --> 00:48:28,367
The shares of Man United
rose by 10 % in early trading.
787
00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:33,539
Juventus has risen
increased by 17 % today. They are reaping the rewards.
788
00:48:33,622 --> 00:48:35,999
That's a good thing for the teams,
789
00:48:36,083 --> 00:48:38,168
but also for the individual leagues.
790
00:48:38,252 --> 00:48:43,465
Do the owners produce a better product
product than the existing competition...
791
00:48:43,549 --> 00:48:44,883
EHEM. PLAYER
792
00:48:44,967 --> 00:48:46,426
...then I will become a customer.
793
00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:49,888
Fans from all over the world
will want to be part of it.
794
00:48:49,972 --> 00:48:51,390
I see the business sense.
795
00:48:51,473 --> 00:48:53,725
SHAME ON YOU, @UEFACOM
WE NEED THE SUPER LEAGUE
796
00:48:54,184 --> 00:48:56,979
The stock market is reacting positively,
797
00:48:57,062 --> 00:49:02,442
when it comes to developments regarding
compliance and market rules,
798
00:49:02,526 --> 00:49:06,154
because it will not be
be a loss-making business.
799
00:49:07,155 --> 00:49:10,075
Soccer is based
on a shaky foundation.
800
00:49:10,158 --> 00:49:12,661
One day
this building will collapse.
801
00:49:12,744 --> 00:49:16,623
Let's build it on a new
foundation that benefits everyone.
802
00:49:23,255 --> 00:49:25,883
The proposal
of a European Super League,
803
00:49:25,966 --> 00:49:29,636
that threatens the very existence of soccer,
as we know it, poses an existential threat,
804
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,346
seems to go through.
805
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:34,975
They are
financial and media support.
806
00:49:35,058 --> 00:49:36,894
It becomes very real very quickly.
807
00:49:36,977 --> 00:49:40,606
A huge upheaval
in European soccer history.
808
00:49:41,315 --> 00:49:45,527
UEFA threatens the players
with a ban from the World Cup.
809
00:49:45,611 --> 00:49:47,404
There is no turning back.
810
00:49:47,487 --> 00:49:50,407
Both sides
now have firmly established positions.
811
00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:53,035
So what happens next?
812
00:49:56,121 --> 00:50:01,668
A SECRET WEAPON
813
00:50:10,594 --> 00:50:13,347
In one of these leaked
proposals and documents,
814
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:15,307
that showed what the Super League would look like,
815
00:50:16,225 --> 00:50:18,894
we found the code name W01.
816
00:50:18,977 --> 00:50:20,354
THE FOUNDATION OF THE SUPER LEAGUE
817
00:50:21,772 --> 00:50:25,067
CONDITION 1: W01 CONDITION
818
00:50:25,150 --> 00:50:28,070
The agreement
contained the coded note:
819
00:50:28,153 --> 00:50:32,032
"We need the support of W01."
820
00:50:34,243 --> 00:50:40,082
The documents leaked to us
looked like a secret plan.
821
00:50:40,165 --> 00:50:46,338
They used a secret language,
and each member had a code name.
822
00:50:47,005 --> 00:50:48,799
One was World 01.
823
00:50:50,592 --> 00:50:53,262
The Super League documents
824
00:50:53,595 --> 00:50:55,264
mentioned a "W01".
825
00:50:56,849 --> 00:50:59,142
They shied away from mentioning the name.
826
00:51:01,353 --> 00:51:05,607
The Super League
wanted institutional support.
827
00:51:07,609 --> 00:51:09,695
Who could this W01 be?
828
00:51:17,703 --> 00:51:20,873
We thought,
it could only be one person.
829
00:51:23,584 --> 00:51:28,172
If what was in those documents was true,
was true, it would be like an earthquake.
830
00:51:45,397 --> 00:51:47,024
Either you are there
831
00:51:48,066 --> 00:51:49,318
or you're out.
832
00:51:49,401 --> 00:51:52,112
You can't be half in
or half out.
833
00:53:02,182 --> 00:53:04,184
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