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♪ A train is a-coming
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♪ It's coming 'round the curve
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♪ That gospel
train is a-comin' ♪
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♪ Lord, coming
'round that curve ♪
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- It's AM 1560, W-G-O-B 96.1 FM.
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You just heard sounds from
the Georgia Mass Choir.
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Hey, request lines are
now open at 414 5781 560.
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I was born and raised in church,
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and I've been singing
practically all my life.
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But at the time, I wanted
to go and be a singer,
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I call myself going to be
a singer at UW Whitewater.
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They told me I couldn't sing.
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That's not good.
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- But that didn't stop me
though, 'cause I sing at church.
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Of course, God had other plans
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and the singing thing
didn't work out for me.
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So, which led me
to go into radio.
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Well, first of all,
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gospel music is
food for the soul,
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and it feeds us in such a way
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that we know where
our faith lies.
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- Everyone has an
appreciation for music.
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Music is a soulish thing.
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I would tell you emphatically
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that everyone has a
connection to music.
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What type of music
may differ and vary,
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but everyone has a
connection to music.
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I sing all day in
the car. I just sing.
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Voice can be hoarse, and I'm
still singing, I love singing.
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And so, music, it does a lot.
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I think it can touch
us consciously,
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and I think it does something
to us subconsciously.
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It's very powerful.
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♪ You better start
doing everything right ♪
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♪ You need to give it up
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♪ Lord, God
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♪ Sop doing those mean things
to hurt your fellow man ♪
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♪ You need to give it up
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♪ Lord, God is what
you need to do ♪
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♪ You need to give it up
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♪ Listen, church
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♪ God wants you to do right
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♪ In everything you do
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♪ You better start
doing everything right ♪
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I just really love gospel music.
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Yeah, I love that.
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That's why I stuck
with it so long.
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Sometime I sing because I can,
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and then sometime I just get
the real, just a happy feeling.
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It just does something to me.
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The group that I join up with,
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we call ourself
the Masonic Wonder.
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Kevin James, which was one
of the guys that was a mason.
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And they got together,
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he and Charles McCullum
and Amus McCullum,
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back in the '50, like '57, '58.
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So, they needed another
guy to sing with them.
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So, unfortunately,
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they picked me up
somewhere down the road,
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so I was with them
ever since then.
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I couldn't sing,
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I couldn't hold a
chair of tune at all.
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So, they taught me how to sing.
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And then we got together and
we'd do a lot of rehearsal
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till we got ourselves together.
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Then we singing every Sunday,
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Sunday evening, Sunday nights,
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and it really become
like part of our life.
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Because you know, you're busy
all the time on the weekend,
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going different places, singing.
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So that kinda kep
you from doing things
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that you shouldn't be doing.
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I never was a lead
singer, never did.
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I always liked it,
but I never did do it.
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I was always a
background singer,
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and that's where I wind up.
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I stayed at the background.
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So for singing a solo,
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you don't want me to do that.
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'Cause if you heard me
sing a solo, you'll say,
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are you sure you sing?
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But I grew up in
a Catholic church
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where there was Gregorian
chants sung in Latin,
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and believe me, you
don't hear a lot of that
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on a radio nowadays,
and there's a reason.
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There's no harmony.
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It's just like melody lines,
and Et Cum Spiritu Tuo.
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Here's the thing,
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going into Walden Chapel
on 17th and Center
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and seeing the same setup I saw
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when I went in a
nightclub or a rehearsal
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with a set of drums and
a couple guitar amps,
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a bass amp, a PA.
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I think if I'd have
seen when I was a kid
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and heard that music
when I was a kid,
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there might still be a whole
lot of religion in my life.
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Because it was a celebration,
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as opposed to a lecture, and
a feeling of shame and guilt,
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and a lot of other things
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that weren't
necessarily necessary.
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It was a social service.
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It was a part of
the neighborhood and
part of the community
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that was stressed out, and
help was being delivered.
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- Gospel music usually hits
the soul a little bit different
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because of the way it's
presented, the way we say it.
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So it's like, maybe
if you were raised
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in a different type of church,
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no offense, but like maybe
Lutheran or Catholic,
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they would sing
through the hymn books,
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♪ Yes, Jesus loves me
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And then, if you go to
a gospel or a Baptist,
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or a Church of God
in Christ it's,
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♪ Yes, Jesus loves me
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It's a difference, you get it.
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Catholics and CME,
they're more reserved.
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You don't have to
really do a lot.
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But gospel people, gospel music,
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we have to give
everything that we have.
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And so, then when you have
other people that come in,
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the reason why it's so
easy for us to reach
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the Catholics and people
like that, it's because
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it's something that they
have not been exposed to.
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So when they see
this like, oh my God,
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like they're doing all this
and they sound like this.
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It's a completely different.
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Not saying, 'cause I like
Catholic music as well,
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I like hymns.
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But with gospel music,
it's just so raw and uncut.
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You just don't know
what you're gonna.
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It's so spontaneous,
there it is.
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It's spontaneous.
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And people like that,
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opposed to coming to
church on a Sunday morning
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and just reading out of a book.
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Come on, put your
hands in the air.
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- Well, I think it's a
part of southern gospel
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that's rooted into me,
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and I don't think I can
ever get out of that.
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I could do other
stuff, but it would be,
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you drink a glass
of water and this,
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oh, this is not good,
I need Kool-Aid.
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So, that's about
what it would be.
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It's quenched the thirst,
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but the Kool-Aid just
taste a little better,
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just a little more flavor.
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But you come to a
small church like us,
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like this is a big building
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but our congregation is
kind of small, we be savvy.
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People be like, I
ain't heard you sing,
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like where y'all come from?
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Singing with my family,
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and it's like I'm
used to doing it,
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but it's fun to do it
because I'm with my family.
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Nothing's better than to do
something with your family.
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It's like, you're like,
oh, I'm gonna do this.
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But then like when you
get up in there and do it,
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it's like you're not
even worried about it,
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or you're not even like
gonna think about it
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because you're too
much in the spirit
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more than just thinking about,
oh, I gotta do this right,
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or I gotta do this wrong.
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But it's about what
is in front of you,
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not what was behind you.
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Yeah, I'll practice
with everybody.
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I'm not really a
technical singer.
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I really just sing for
my heart, like just sing.
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Like I said, I never like
with the school for it,
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nothing like that,
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but I just think I just
sing whatever I feel.
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If I'm peachy I'm peachy,
but it's whatever I feel.
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I think it's just something
natural that I just have.
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Music or no music,
we just always sing.
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We just make up songs.
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Just always just like
singing, all the time.
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We just be hype, clapping
our hands up and our feet,
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like anything we can find.
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If we can find a
spoon in the house,
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we're banging it on the table.
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If we can find a balloon,
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we're gonna pop it
just to make noise.
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I don't think I'm the best,
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but I do good at my
music, I'll say that.
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- And you gotta have a
passion to wanna do it.
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You can't just get up and
say, hey, I wanna do it.
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There has to be a
genuine connection
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with the performer
and the audience,
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and the only way you can do that
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is knowing what's inside of you.
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We had an old,
old radio where I,
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whenever I got my me time
that I could get away,
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I always listened
to a gospel program
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that came on one of the station.
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I think it was based out
of Memphis, Tennessee,
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called W-D-I-A, and
they had gospel music,
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they had an hour where they
would have gospel music.
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And I remember some of the songs
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like from the Swan Silver Tones,
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the Dixie Nightingales,
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and people like Sam Cooke
and the Soul Stirrers,
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and I used to sit
at my time and say,
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well, I just like that.
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It was just something
that I got inspired,
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I always got this warm feeling
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and felt like that I was
being a part of this music,
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'cause it was like resonating,
you know something to me.
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Okay, the year I got involved
with The Queens Of Harmony
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was 1970, I wanna say 1971
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that I actually got
introduced to them.
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And I went to their rehearsal,
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and they told me that I had
a natural voice for singing.
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Okay, my try out with
miss Yula Thomas,
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better known as miss Honeybunch.
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"Honey, we're gonna give
you something real simple,"
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in that voice,
that type of voice,
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I can't get as low
it's her voice, but,
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"We're gonna do something
real simple, honey."
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And she asked me to
try out this song,
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"It's all right to have
a good time with Jesus,"
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"it's all right."
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'Cause she had that tone
voice that was basically
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that deep voice that brought
the other voices together
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to make the harmony and the
melodious sounds in the song.
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It's like music to your
ears, when they acapella.
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I think acapella is better
sometimes than music,
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'cause you can
hear all the voices
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and it's just like old school,
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hand clapping, foot
stomping basically.
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Yeah, we bump heads,
but that's my momma.
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The Holy Gospel Singers,
The Masonic Wonders,
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The Queens of Harmony,
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those really like was the
top, coldest groups singing.
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With Spiritual Tones, which
is a group that I had made,
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it's actually been
changed about three times.
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At first it was The
Spiritual Charms,
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The Spirit of Charms,
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and we started when
we was like five, six.
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It was me, my best friend, her
little sister and my sister.
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When I'm performing one of my
favorite songs, I feel good.
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'Cause if it's my favorite song,
I feel like it speak to me,
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so I feel like it'll speak to
somebody else in the audience.
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I wouldn't say I'm
good at the song.
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That that's kinda cocky.
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I would just say, I
know everybody get
a different feeling,
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so they of course
wouldn't feel what I feel,
247
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but I would hope
they feel something
248
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God wise or spiritual
wise that'll be like,
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oh, you know what I'm saying,
250
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like this just touched me,
251
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or this just touched my
little soul or something.
252
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Audrey is my god-granddaughter.
253
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Audrey is the little
miss spiritual tone.
254
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She comes in and she
does her own thing.
255
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She likes to sing.
256
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Gospel music came
here from west Africa.
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It came when Africans
were stolen from Africa,
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brought here against their will
259
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and put into chattel servitude.
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They couldn't take
anything with them
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except their cultural history.
262
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There, you would celebrate
with music and dance,
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the harvest, a ceremony
that was a secular ceremony
264
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as well as a
worship of the gods.
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When we came here,
we came bonded,
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and the spiritual
aspects of the message
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allowed us to become
free, because it was
a message of song.
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Many of the spirituals that
were generated during that era
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that allowed the slaves
to send the message.
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So, it wasn't just
a message of song
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that allowed us to send signals
272
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and to identify certain things
273
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that would or would
not be happening.
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It was also the heart of the
individual coming out of them
275
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that said, I care about
you enough to sing to you
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in a dialect or in a message
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that no one else
understands but us.
278
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- The spirituals were subversive
279
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in that they could sing a
song called Wade in the Water.
280
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And while the plantation
owners thought
281
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they were just doing
this to pass the time,
282
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what they were signaling was
283
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tonight, if you go across
the river, wade in the water,
284
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that's where you'll be able to
join the underground railroad
285
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and escape to freedom.
♪ Wade in the water
286
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♪ Wade in the water
287
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♪ Wade in the water
288
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♪ God's gonna
trouble the water ♪
289
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And that's how it came here.
290
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Now, that's how it
came to the south.
291
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And after emancipation
and the development
292
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of more African American
churches in the south,
293
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these migrants came to the north
294
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and they got the same kinda
jobs they had down south.
295
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They were porters, and they
were maids, and they were cooks,
296
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and they were doing all
these menial jobs for others.
297
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But on Sunday morning
298
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when they could get in
their gospel choir robe
299
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and march down that
aisle of the church,
300
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they were a coloratura,
they were a tenor,
301
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they were a soprano,
they were somebody.
302
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I always say that
there are so many
303
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forgotten heroes in music,
304
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and there are so many
forgotten heroes in music
305
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just in Milwaukee,
306
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quartets that struggled,
307
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probably didn't make much
money singing, but loved it,
308
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did it for the love
and the love of God,
309
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who endured things,
310
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who if they had a chance
perhaps to travel to the south
311
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in the 50s and 60s to sing,
312
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who probably couldn't
eat at the restaurant,
313
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couldn't stay at the hotel,
314
00:28:01,580 --> 00:28:03,982
couldn't stop to use the
restroom at the gas station
315
00:28:03,983 --> 00:28:05,683
'cause it wasn't allowed,
316
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kidney problems because
they couldn't use restrooms,
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issues with regard to diabetes
318
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'cause of the kinda
foods you had to eat,
319
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and got pulled over
just because they were
320
00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:16,327
four black men or four
black women in a car
321
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driving through Mississippi.
322
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And in the worst cases said,
323
00:28:20,499 --> 00:28:22,367
"You're a singing
group, sing for us,"
324
00:28:22,368 --> 00:28:23,701
and had to sit there
325
00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:25,937
in the middle of the
road in Mississippi,
326
00:28:25,938 --> 00:28:29,640
singing for some
sheriff or some deputy
327
00:28:29,641 --> 00:28:31,977
who just thought he
was so much better.
328
00:28:31,978 --> 00:28:34,179
Sometimes would get all
the way down to a program
329
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,414
and there was no money.
330
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So, you had to love doing it.
331
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They paved the way.
332
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These are their forgotten
heroes of music.
333
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It takes a little bit of prayer,
334
00:28:43,422 --> 00:28:46,324
and I would say a
little bit of love too,
335
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to hit that one spot.
336
00:28:48,127 --> 00:28:53,132
But for the most part, people
just can't afford to travel.
337
00:28:54,333 --> 00:28:56,601
'Cause you gotta stay in
a hotel, you gotta eat.
338
00:28:56,602 --> 00:28:59,237
And you go on the road,
339
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:01,572
sometimes you get paid,
sometimes you don't.
340
00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:03,641
Sometimes they might
promise your money,
341
00:29:03,642 --> 00:29:05,844
and sometimes the person
that promise you money
342
00:29:05,845 --> 00:29:06,913
go out the back door.
343
00:29:09,949 --> 00:29:11,350
Now, that there's the truth.
344
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This was a community
within a community
345
00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:16,387
that gave people dignity.
346
00:29:16,388 --> 00:29:20,359
It was a democratization
of church goers.
347
00:29:21,994 --> 00:29:22,929
Radio.
348
00:29:22,930 --> 00:29:24,462
Radio was extremely important
349
00:29:24,463 --> 00:29:27,632
in disseminating gospel
music throughout the country,
350
00:29:27,633 --> 00:29:32,203
in part because of the
power of radio at that time.
351
00:29:32,204 --> 00:29:33,905
Particularly the African
American community
352
00:29:33,906 --> 00:29:36,774
received much of its news
and information from radio.
353
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,844
So you could be sitting
in your living room
354
00:29:38,845 --> 00:29:43,648
in Milwaukee in 1948
and hear Mahalia Jackson
355
00:29:43,649 --> 00:29:45,716
sing at Greater Harvest
356
00:29:45,717 --> 00:29:48,686
and then advertise her
program down the street
357
00:29:48,687 --> 00:29:50,621
and hear her selling
raffle tickets.
358
00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:53,124
This is the kind of
experience you would have.
359
00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:54,659
- Let me grab a guitar,
if you don't mind.
360
00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:56,996
And if you play a major chord,
361
00:29:58,564 --> 00:30:00,231
and you add that seventh,
362
00:30:00,232 --> 00:30:03,836
and then you add the other
blue note, the third one,
363
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:07,773
where do you think
that comes from?
364
00:30:07,774 --> 00:30:09,307
That didn't come from Europe.
365
00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:10,508
How do I put this?
366
00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:12,377
Like soul wise, when
you listen to a quartet,
367
00:30:12,378 --> 00:30:14,079
it got some kind of funk in it.
368
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,346
And gospel's going,
369
00:30:15,347 --> 00:30:18,483
♪ Do, do, do, do,
do, do, do, do ♪
370
00:30:18,484 --> 00:30:20,719
That did not come from Europe.
371
00:30:49,448 --> 00:30:53,019
I feel like having
a good church tonight.
372
00:30:54,453 --> 00:30:58,190
Now come on, put your
hands together like this.
373
00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:20,658
It's an art form.
374
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,928
It's American and
it's African American.
375
00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:25,963
I think gospel
music in particular
376
00:34:25,964 --> 00:34:30,901
helped influence a lot of
these British invasion music.
377
00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:32,570
I mean, the Rolling
Stones were singing,
378
00:34:32,571 --> 00:34:34,372
"This may be my last time."
379
00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:36,307
That was a song that
not only was sung
380
00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:38,509
by The Staple Singers in gospel,
381
00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:39,677
but was a song that was sung
382
00:34:39,678 --> 00:34:41,346
during the civil
rights movement,
383
00:34:41,347 --> 00:34:43,814
and so much of the music that
was called the devil's music
384
00:34:43,815 --> 00:34:45,750
really came out of the church.
385
00:34:45,751 --> 00:34:47,218
And it's interesting,
if you listen
386
00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:50,221
to the Million Dollar
Quartet session from 1956,
387
00:34:50,222 --> 00:34:53,424
the famous session with
Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis
388
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:55,960
and Carl Perkins
and Johnny Cash,
389
00:34:55,961 --> 00:34:57,728
what do they start singing?
390
00:34:57,729 --> 00:34:58,929
Gospel songs.
391
00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:00,698
And not just the
white gospel songs,
392
00:35:00,699 --> 00:35:03,668
they're singing black
gospel songs as well.
393
00:35:03,669 --> 00:35:05,069
This is their jam session.
394
00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:06,710
They're just jamming
on the church songs.
395
00:35:08,474 --> 00:35:09,974
Elvis loved gospel music.
396
00:35:09,975 --> 00:35:11,876
He loved white gospel
music, southern gospel,
397
00:35:11,877 --> 00:35:13,778
and he liked black gospel music.
398
00:35:13,779 --> 00:35:18,015
And he would go and listen
to East Trigg Baptist Church
399
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:20,251
and absorb this music.
400
00:35:20,252 --> 00:35:24,355
The best school of singing was
the African American church,
401
00:35:24,356 --> 00:35:25,923
'cause you were in the choir
402
00:35:25,924 --> 00:35:29,260
and you learned how to
sing in those choirs.
403
00:35:29,261 --> 00:35:31,095
Maybe you had a chance to solo.
404
00:35:31,096 --> 00:35:34,765
So you have people like Clyde
McPhatter of "The drifters,"
405
00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:36,601
learned everything
he did in church.
406
00:35:36,602 --> 00:35:39,103
Once you go gospel you,
you just don't go back.
407
00:35:39,104 --> 00:35:41,939
Even when you try to go
back, it just comes out.
408
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:46,143
It's a sound, it's a
feeling, a vibe, a swag
409
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:47,845
that just comes with the church,
410
00:35:47,846 --> 00:35:51,682
and everybody that has
come up through it has it.
411
00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:56,688
The pop artists, they've got
their style from the church,
412
00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:01,226
and gospel music doesn't
get the credit for it.
413
00:36:01,227 --> 00:36:03,794
Like the Bee Gees,
414
00:36:03,795 --> 00:36:06,864
their sound came
from gospel music.
415
00:36:06,865 --> 00:36:08,799
They might not wanna
say it, you know?
416
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,535
Michael McDonald.
417
00:36:10,536 --> 00:36:12,537
Most of the people
who sing soul music
418
00:36:12,538 --> 00:36:14,038
came outta the church.
419
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:18,243
I mean, and it's pretty
evident in their art form,
420
00:36:18,244 --> 00:36:19,477
you can tell.
421
00:36:19,478 --> 00:36:21,078
Like you can tell when
you listen to music
422
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:24,181
and they hit a certain lick,
like a certain musical tone.
423
00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:26,817
You like, ooh, that's church
right there, right there.
424
00:36:26,818 --> 00:36:28,719
And you like, you
know that's just,
425
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:31,989
she just went to church on
that one, or he just, you know?
426
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:33,123
Or even when they're singing,
427
00:36:33,124 --> 00:36:34,392
they could be singing about love
428
00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:36,594
but you know they
took it to church.
429
00:36:36,595 --> 00:36:38,329
'Cause that's where
they got her from.
430
00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:40,398
- Ray Charles, "I Got a Woman,"
431
00:36:40,399 --> 00:36:42,500
that's a gospel song converted.
432
00:36:42,501 --> 00:36:44,702
So, he's number one.
433
00:36:44,703 --> 00:36:47,171
Jerry Butler and
Curtis Mayfield,
434
00:36:47,172 --> 00:36:50,475
ostensibly one of the
very first soul records
435
00:36:50,476 --> 00:36:52,977
to come outta Chicago,
"For Your Precious Love,"
436
00:36:52,978 --> 00:36:56,514
based on their
experience growing up
in a spiritual church.
437
00:36:56,515 --> 00:36:57,383
- Otis Redding.
438
00:36:57,384 --> 00:36:58,649
Boys Tamin.
439
00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:00,117
Tina Turner grew
up in the church.
440
00:37:00,118 --> 00:37:02,453
You know who I wanna keep
thinking of is Beyonce,
441
00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:03,488
she grew up in the church.
442
00:37:03,489 --> 00:37:04,956
Of course, Michael Jackson.
443
00:37:05,791 --> 00:37:07,091
Dionne Warwick.
444
00:37:07,092 --> 00:37:08,158
- Stevie Wonder.
445
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:09,994
Frankie Beverly and mates.
446
00:37:09,995 --> 00:37:11,195
Etta James.
447
00:37:11,196 --> 00:37:12,030
Jill Scott.
448
00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:12,998
Brandy.
449
00:37:12,999 --> 00:37:15,366
James Brown, gospel singer.
450
00:37:15,367 --> 00:37:17,034
Little Richard
came from the church.
451
00:37:17,035 --> 00:37:19,304
I would say probably
Patti LaBelle.
452
00:37:19,305 --> 00:37:20,305
India Arie.
453
00:37:20,306 --> 00:37:21,539
Ledisi.
454
00:37:21,540 --> 00:37:22,408
Prince.
455
00:37:22,409 --> 00:37:23,574
Walter Beasley.
456
00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:24,410
- Toni Braxton.
457
00:37:24,411 --> 00:37:25,710
Joda C.
458
00:37:25,711 --> 00:37:26,977
- Gladys Knight.
459
00:37:26,978 --> 00:37:27,813
- Usher.
460
00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:28,647
Jennifer Hudson.
461
00:37:28,648 --> 00:37:30,348
Jazmine Sullivan.
462
00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:32,650
- Well, Aretha Franklin,
she started off gospel.
463
00:37:32,651 --> 00:37:34,452
Aretha Franklin's
a real good example
464
00:37:34,453 --> 00:37:38,055
of a woman dripping with gospel.
465
00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:38,890
Ben E. King.
466
00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:39,725
- New Addition.
467
00:37:39,725 --> 00:37:40,559
- The Chantels.
468
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,560
Justin Timberlake.
469
00:37:41,561 --> 00:37:43,894
O. V. Wright, Johnny Taylor.
470
00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:45,596
Bobby Brown.
471
00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:47,698
- Joe Henderson, the
soul singer, he grew
up in the church.
472
00:37:47,699 --> 00:37:49,166
Like Sam Cooke.
473
00:37:49,167 --> 00:37:51,302
Sam Cooke came right outta
gospel and into secular.
474
00:37:51,303 --> 00:37:52,337
Bruno Mars.
475
00:37:52,338 --> 00:37:53,871
How can I not say Bruno Mars?
476
00:37:53,872 --> 00:37:55,005
Eulaulah Hathaway.
477
00:37:55,006 --> 00:37:55,941
Wilson Pickett.
478
00:37:55,942 --> 00:37:57,174
Fantasia.
479
00:37:57,175 --> 00:37:58,609
Like when she be seeing
her little love songs,
480
00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:01,078
I'll be like, that
don't even match.
481
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:02,513
That's what she
was created to do.
482
00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:06,284
That's why Fantasia,
she, I think she is church.
483
00:38:08,654 --> 00:38:10,621
- Otis Clay is another
one, great soul singer.
484
00:38:10,622 --> 00:38:12,222
Grew up singing quartet music.
485
00:38:12,223 --> 00:38:13,425
And Whitney Houston.
486
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,494
Whitney Houston, that's church,
487
00:38:15,495 --> 00:38:17,462
you know, all of these artists.
488
00:38:17,463 --> 00:38:20,631
Because when I hear it, oh man,
what church does she go to?
489
00:38:20,632 --> 00:38:22,400
That's the first
question I ask somebody,
490
00:38:22,401 --> 00:38:23,968
or who's their
mother and father?
491
00:38:23,969 --> 00:38:25,770
- It'd probably be hard to know
492
00:38:25,771 --> 00:38:28,305
what secular artist didn't
come out of the church.
493
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,074
A lot of these
people I know they,
494
00:38:30,075 --> 00:38:32,377
they sang in their churches
495
00:38:32,378 --> 00:38:36,013
and they changed over
from gospel to the R&B
496
00:38:36,014 --> 00:38:38,483
because they were inspired
and made more money.
497
00:38:38,484 --> 00:38:41,018
So the church
provided this sort of
498
00:38:41,019 --> 00:38:45,289
essential experience in singing
in front of an audience,
499
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:48,726
a congregation that
gave individuals
500
00:38:48,727 --> 00:38:50,227
who were interested in
getting in the music business
501
00:38:50,228 --> 00:38:54,298
this opportunity to then
take that and promote it.
502
00:38:54,299 --> 00:38:59,304
The gospel is no different
when Jay-Z or Beyonce,
503
00:39:00,772 --> 00:39:03,841
all them get on stage and
people start carrying out.
504
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:05,309
They're reaching 'em.
505
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:07,612
They're reaching them and
they're connecting with them,
506
00:39:07,613 --> 00:39:08,846
let me put it that way.
507
00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:10,615
With the gospel,
it's the same thing.
508
00:39:10,616 --> 00:39:13,050
And that's just where it starts.
509
00:39:13,051 --> 00:39:16,621
And you can kinda, sometimes
you'll see it, it'll come out,
510
00:39:16,622 --> 00:39:18,322
and you are like, whoa,
where did that come from?
511
00:39:18,323 --> 00:39:20,257
But it's because of their roots,
512
00:39:20,258 --> 00:39:22,092
and it started in the church.
513
00:39:22,093 --> 00:39:27,098
You can kinda tell who come
from church and who doesn't
514
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:29,367
because there's just a
different component there.
515
00:39:29,368 --> 00:39:30,868
In church.
516
00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:34,639
I always tell people it's so
much easier to sing R&B music,
517
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,106
'cause it don't take.
518
00:39:36,107 --> 00:39:39,076
But in church, you cannot leave
outta here and say you sang
519
00:39:39,077 --> 00:39:41,011
if you're not drenched in sweat.
520
00:39:41,012 --> 00:39:42,847
You have to put it
all on the line.
521
00:39:42,848 --> 00:39:44,515
When you think of
Jennifer Hudson,
522
00:39:44,516 --> 00:39:46,283
she puts it all on the line.
523
00:39:46,284 --> 00:39:49,186
When she's talking,
she sound like a tenor.
524
00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:50,287
But by the time she
get done singing,
525
00:39:50,288 --> 00:39:51,789
she sound like a first soprano.
526
00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:53,991
That's because she puts
it all on the line,
527
00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:56,927
and you learn that component
of singing in church.
528
00:39:56,928 --> 00:40:01,599
- It just has a swag to
it that everybody wants,
529
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,301
everybody tries to duplicate.
530
00:40:04,302 --> 00:40:06,537
And if you've not been to
church on Sunday morning,
531
00:40:06,538 --> 00:40:07,873
you can't get it.
532
00:40:15,681 --> 00:40:20,686
♪ God's grace
533
00:40:23,855 --> 00:40:28,860
♪ God's grace
534
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:37,035
♪ God's grace
535
00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:40,638
♪ God's grace
536
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:45,611
♪ God's grace
537
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,718
♪ God's grace
538
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,487
♪ Amazing grace
539
00:40:56,488 --> 00:41:01,392
♪ Amazing grace
540
00:41:02,327 --> 00:41:05,062
♪ Amazing grace
541
00:41:05,063 --> 00:41:10,068
♪ Amazing grace
542
00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:17,308
♪ Amazing grace
543
00:41:18,376 --> 00:41:21,011
♪ Amazing grace
544
00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:24,249
♪ Amazing grace
545
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,221
I was a concert once
546
00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:40,057
and some guy was on
the stage singing,
547
00:42:40,058 --> 00:42:44,229
and I'm like, man, I'm really
sitting here enjoying this.
548
00:42:46,531 --> 00:42:48,232
And I said to myself, I said,
549
00:42:48,233 --> 00:42:51,669
and I know I could
do the same thing.
550
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:54,438
I said, so if I'm sitting
here enjoying these guys,
551
00:42:54,439 --> 00:42:56,540
why are you sitting
down not doing anything
552
00:42:56,541 --> 00:42:58,743
and somebody could
be enjoying you?
553
00:42:58,744 --> 00:43:00,244
And I started a group,
554
00:43:00,245 --> 00:43:02,479
I started my group back
up just from that thought,
555
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,448
and that's the absolute truth.
556
00:43:04,449 --> 00:43:08,552
But none of us had any
actual formal training
557
00:43:08,553 --> 00:43:09,988
of how to sing.
558
00:43:11,389 --> 00:43:13,590
It's just something we
just developed naturally.
559
00:43:13,591 --> 00:43:16,627
We just started singing.
560
00:43:16,628 --> 00:43:20,598
We found out people liked
it so we kept doing it.
561
00:43:21,733 --> 00:43:23,869
So gospel always
lift the person up.
562
00:43:26,638 --> 00:43:28,506
And if you are in a sad state,
563
00:43:29,641 --> 00:43:32,509
the gospel always
gonna try to tell you
564
00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:34,611
you can come out of that state.
565
00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:37,848
And far as the blues,
566
00:43:37,849 --> 00:43:40,484
blues try to leave you
in that spot sometime.
567
00:43:40,485 --> 00:43:41,786
They'll say, this is where it is
568
00:43:41,787 --> 00:43:43,921
and I've gotten used to this,
569
00:43:43,922 --> 00:43:46,123
and it just don't
bother me anymore.
570
00:43:46,124 --> 00:43:48,025
Well, gospel is different.
571
00:43:48,026 --> 00:43:51,328
Gospel try to pull you
up on another level
572
00:43:51,329 --> 00:43:54,231
to where, as I said before,
573
00:43:54,232 --> 00:43:55,465
I don't think it's even possible
574
00:43:55,466 --> 00:43:59,469
to leave somebody sad
singing the gospel.
575
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:03,507
You might reach 'em sad,
but it always lift them up,
576
00:44:03,508 --> 00:44:07,912
because gospel music
always encourages a person
577
00:44:07,913 --> 00:44:11,248
that they can do better,
or things can get better,
578
00:44:11,249 --> 00:44:13,718
or things will be better,
579
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,886
and that's what I think
gospel's all about.
580
00:44:15,887 --> 00:44:17,354
Just like my daughter said,
581
00:44:17,355 --> 00:44:20,858
she was shy, she
was afraid to sing.
582
00:44:20,859 --> 00:44:22,960
One man changed all of that.
583
00:44:22,961 --> 00:44:27,297
I started when I was 12 at
Mount Vernon Baptist Church.
584
00:44:27,298 --> 00:44:31,001
We was on 6th and North Avenue
then before we moved here.
585
00:44:31,002 --> 00:44:33,038
And that's when I
started singing.
586
00:44:34,472 --> 00:44:37,008
I didn't sing much, but
it was just little parts.
587
00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:42,579
I was more so very shy,
588
00:44:42,580 --> 00:44:46,183
and I've just started to
kinda open up singing,
589
00:44:46,184 --> 00:44:49,820
and then things that I
went through in my life
590
00:44:49,821 --> 00:44:51,588
just inspired me to sing.
591
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:55,525
And that's why I sing so
hard every time I do sing,
592
00:44:55,526 --> 00:44:58,329
because that's my testimony.
593
00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:02,166
'Cause sometimes when you sing,
594
00:45:02,167 --> 00:45:03,567
you just don't know if
you gonna see the next day
595
00:45:03,568 --> 00:45:05,970
so you gotta give
it all you got.
596
00:45:05,971 --> 00:45:10,675
And this man named Nwajei
came, he was from Nigeria,
597
00:45:12,510 --> 00:45:17,281
and he came and he
was saying like,
598
00:45:17,282 --> 00:45:19,950
there's a woman in the crowd,
599
00:45:19,951 --> 00:45:23,220
and he was just like describing
me but I didn't get it.
600
00:45:23,221 --> 00:45:25,290
I'm like, you talking about me?
601
00:45:26,324 --> 00:45:31,196
Then he said
something where I had
602
00:45:32,363 --> 00:45:34,664
like an encounter one night,
603
00:45:34,665 --> 00:45:37,067
and nobody knew that
but me and the Lord,
604
00:45:37,068 --> 00:45:38,836
and he said that up there.
605
00:45:38,837 --> 00:45:41,005
And I'm like, he talking
to me, oh my God.
606
00:45:41,006 --> 00:45:44,309
And I stood up, and then he
had me come up for prayer.
607
00:45:46,912 --> 00:45:51,882
He told me, he said he
was gonna remove the fear,
608
00:45:51,883 --> 00:45:54,752
and he said, every time you
going sing, it's gonna be fire.
609
00:48:46,724 --> 00:48:48,225
I'm singing it to him.
610
00:48:48,226 --> 00:48:51,228
When I'm singing, I act like
Jesus standing right there
611
00:48:51,229 --> 00:48:52,429
and I'm singing.
612
00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:54,798
That's how I sing every time.
613
00:48:54,799 --> 00:48:57,134
I don't care if it's
three people in the crowd,
614
00:48:57,135 --> 00:48:58,868
one person, if it's myself,
615
00:48:58,869 --> 00:49:01,739
I'm acting like Jesus
is standing right there.
616
00:49:14,152 --> 00:49:17,187
Milwaukee Gospel Jubilee
was actually an idea
617
00:49:17,188 --> 00:49:19,723
from a few of our board members
618
00:49:19,724 --> 00:49:21,958
at progressive community
health centers.
619
00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:24,861
It would tie right
into the mission
620
00:49:24,862 --> 00:49:26,563
of what I do for my career,
621
00:49:26,564 --> 00:49:30,667
which is provide
healthcare for everyone,
622
00:49:30,668 --> 00:49:33,003
quality healthcare for anyone,
623
00:49:33,004 --> 00:49:36,506
no matter your insurance
level, lack thereof,
624
00:49:36,507 --> 00:49:40,677
and to have a facility and
have staff and providers
625
00:49:40,678 --> 00:49:42,512
that can give you
the same healthcare
626
00:49:42,513 --> 00:49:44,648
that you would get
anywhere, quality.
627
00:49:44,649 --> 00:49:46,850
So that's what I do
to serve the community
628
00:49:46,851 --> 00:49:48,785
for which I was raised,
629
00:49:48,786 --> 00:49:51,088
this is where I
practice medicine,
630
00:49:51,089 --> 00:49:55,059
but to all also marry
that with singing,
631
00:49:55,060 --> 00:49:56,693
which is the other
half of my life
632
00:49:56,694 --> 00:49:59,096
with what I do with, with
singing with our group
633
00:49:59,097 --> 00:50:01,198
and singing in church.
634
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:05,536
Gospel music is a
huge part of my life,
635
00:50:06,904 --> 00:50:08,372
being raised on it.
636
00:50:08,373 --> 00:50:11,308
Quartet music was heavily
played in my household
637
00:50:11,309 --> 00:50:12,576
with my dad.
638
00:50:12,577 --> 00:50:15,145
He was a quartet, he
is a quartet singer.
639
00:50:15,146 --> 00:50:18,548
And just learning the
different history on that
640
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:22,386
and who is who, and going
to different programs,
641
00:50:22,387 --> 00:50:24,821
local programs that
would happen with him
642
00:50:24,822 --> 00:50:27,257
was like huge for us growing up,
643
00:50:27,258 --> 00:50:29,959
wondering what the
choir's gonna sing,
644
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,496
how are we gonna pack
it out or what's going,
645
00:50:32,497 --> 00:50:35,399
or the fellowships that we
have with other congregations.
646
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,335
So it was a lot of,
it's a lot of fun.
647
00:50:38,536 --> 00:50:39,936
How many of y'all
holding out there?
648
00:50:41,406 --> 00:50:44,408
♪ Holding on
649
00:50:44,409 --> 00:50:48,445
♪ I gotta keep on holding on
650
00:50:48,446 --> 00:50:49,813
I'm gonna say that again.
651
00:50:49,814 --> 00:50:51,248
♪ Holding, yes
652
00:50:51,249 --> 00:50:54,218
♪ Holding on
653
00:50:54,219 --> 00:50:58,455
♪ I gotta keep on holding on
654
00:50:58,456 --> 00:50:59,456
Listen.
655
00:51:00,225 --> 00:51:05,130
♪ When I was just a little boy
656
00:51:06,030 --> 00:51:09,399
♪ I didn't know what was true
657
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,970
♪ But since I found you, Jesus
658
00:51:13,971 --> 00:51:17,707
♪ I know he gonna
lead me through ♪
659
00:51:17,708 --> 00:51:20,544
♪ I'm holding on
660
00:51:20,545 --> 00:51:23,046
♪ Holding on
661
00:51:23,047 --> 00:51:24,481
If you down and
you need to hear it,
662
00:51:24,482 --> 00:51:27,217
why don't you put
on some good music?
663
00:51:27,218 --> 00:51:29,052
And then it changes
the atmosphere,
664
00:51:29,053 --> 00:51:30,520
it changes your spirit,
665
00:51:30,521 --> 00:51:34,458
and can change me from feeling
down to feeling up again,
666
00:51:34,459 --> 00:51:38,162
because it reignites the
hope that you already know,
667
00:51:38,163 --> 00:51:41,598
but sometimes with
the challenges of
life and the trials,
668
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:43,600
things can get you down.
669
00:51:43,601 --> 00:51:45,669
♪ Holding
670
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:47,036
♪ Holding on
671
00:51:47,037 --> 00:51:48,572
♪ Holding on
672
00:51:48,573 --> 00:51:51,909
What I wanna know today,
is there anybody out there?
673
00:51:53,178 --> 00:51:55,445
♪ Holding on
674
00:51:55,446 --> 00:51:57,915
♪ holding on.
675
00:52:34,118 --> 00:52:37,120
I can go back to when I was
a kid packing it, I was like,
676
00:52:37,121 --> 00:52:39,889
we going over to this
church, it's gonna be packed.
677
00:52:39,890 --> 00:52:41,157
I wonder how we gonna do?
678
00:52:41,158 --> 00:52:42,926
We gonna throw down, you know?
679
00:52:42,927 --> 00:52:44,628
A healthy competition.
680
00:52:44,629 --> 00:52:46,596
And you never know, just
because you're up there
681
00:52:46,597 --> 00:52:48,998
smiling and singing, doesn't
mean you day is going great,
682
00:52:48,999 --> 00:52:50,767
doesn't mean you're
at the right place,
683
00:52:50,768 --> 00:52:53,102
but you keep the fact
that you still do the work
684
00:52:53,103 --> 00:52:56,340
and you find yourself being
ministered too as well,
685
00:52:56,341 --> 00:52:58,209
in the midst of
ministering to others.
686
00:52:59,076 --> 00:53:03,948
♪ Oh, it's all right
687
00:53:05,483 --> 00:53:10,488
♪ Listen, it's all right
to have a good time ♪
688
00:53:11,256 --> 00:53:14,758
♪ It's all right
689
00:53:14,759 --> 00:53:19,764
♪ You can clap your hands
690
00:53:20,665 --> 00:53:24,200
♪ You can stomp your feet
691
00:53:24,201 --> 00:53:26,470
♪ You can shout if you wanna
692
00:53:26,471 --> 00:53:29,273
All we gotta do is just praise.
693
00:53:29,274 --> 00:53:33,943
♪ Praise God
694
00:53:33,944 --> 00:53:38,548
♪ It's all right to
have a good time ♪
695
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:43,420
♪ It's all right to
have a good time ♪
696
00:53:43,421 --> 00:53:46,856
♪ It's all right
697
00:53:46,857 --> 00:53:50,260
- How many of y'all come
to have a good time?
698
00:53:50,261 --> 00:53:54,665
When we come here, I got
five brothers, one sister.
699
00:53:56,033 --> 00:53:59,269
So, we all come at
the same time in 1956.
700
00:53:59,270 --> 00:54:02,238
And you might want to
know what made us move.
701
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:07,076
If anybody would remember
the Emmett Till case?
702
00:54:07,077 --> 00:54:09,779
He went down from
Chicago, I guess,
703
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:13,683
went down to stay with his
grandfather or grandmother.
704
00:54:13,684 --> 00:54:17,387
Anyway, they accuse him
of making some kind of
705
00:54:17,388 --> 00:54:20,424
sex advance with
this white girl.
706
00:54:20,425 --> 00:54:23,760
They taken him after then
and arrested him for that,
707
00:54:23,761 --> 00:54:26,764
and they lynched
him just terrible.
708
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:30,834
After they beat him up,
709
00:54:30,835 --> 00:54:34,704
they put a big weight
around his neck
710
00:54:34,705 --> 00:54:38,042
and throwed him in what
you call the Yasu River,
711
00:54:39,209 --> 00:54:42,812
and that was all
broadcast everywhere.
712
00:54:42,813 --> 00:54:44,948
So, that's what made us leave.
713
00:54:44,949 --> 00:54:47,451
When my mother
went to the mailbox
714
00:54:47,452 --> 00:54:51,355
and she got the Jet
magazine out of the mail
715
00:54:51,356 --> 00:54:53,624
and she opened it up
and she saw his picture,
716
00:54:54,492 --> 00:54:56,926
and that was terrible for us.
717
00:54:56,927 --> 00:55:00,296
'Cause we had no idea
of leaving Mississippi
718
00:55:00,297 --> 00:55:01,297
until this happened.
719
00:55:02,333 --> 00:55:06,403
And my mother
couldn't be satisfied,
720
00:55:06,404 --> 00:55:07,937
she couldn't be happy,
721
00:55:07,938 --> 00:55:10,540
'cause she just cried all
the time because of this,
722
00:55:10,541 --> 00:55:12,242
because she could see her boys
723
00:55:15,279 --> 00:55:17,146
would be caught up in
something like that.
724
00:55:17,147 --> 00:55:22,152
So, everything was just
like a 360 degree turnaround
725
00:55:24,822 --> 00:55:25,922
when we come here.
726
00:55:25,923 --> 00:55:27,724
It was just, everything
was different.
727
00:55:27,725 --> 00:55:32,662
And after having that little
bit of bringing up from young,
728
00:55:32,663 --> 00:55:37,200
so it had come back to me, and
it was just a blessing to me.
729
00:55:37,201 --> 00:55:40,103
That singing saved me 100%.
730
00:55:40,104 --> 00:55:42,939
The Dalai Lama says, "Man
is a great troublemaker."
731
00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:46,643
And so, no matter how
sophisticated we get,
732
00:55:46,644 --> 00:55:48,578
how much more affluent we get,
733
00:55:48,579 --> 00:55:50,747
there are always
going to be people
734
00:55:50,748 --> 00:55:52,716
that can't pay the light bill,
735
00:55:52,717 --> 00:55:55,686
can't pay the car bill,
can't pay the rent,
736
00:55:56,521 --> 00:55:58,188
hungry, hurt,
737
00:55:59,189 --> 00:56:01,257
family dying, disease,
738
00:56:01,258 --> 00:56:03,593
shooting, killing,
whatever the thing is
739
00:56:03,594 --> 00:56:04,794
and need to express that,
740
00:56:04,795 --> 00:56:06,896
and the music is a
means to express that.
741
00:56:06,897 --> 00:56:09,165
And this is probably
the most emotional thing
742
00:56:09,166 --> 00:56:12,268
you can think about,
your life and your death,
743
00:56:12,269 --> 00:56:14,471
and gospel expresses
both of them
744
00:56:14,472 --> 00:56:17,006
from the gut, and from
the heart and the soul.
745
00:56:17,007 --> 00:56:20,910
Being in these churches and
knowing the people I knew,
746
00:56:20,911 --> 00:56:22,546
like Charles McCullum,
747
00:56:22,547 --> 00:56:25,082
who lost two grandchildren
to gun violence.
748
00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:27,884
And he's up on stage, he said,
749
00:56:27,885 --> 00:56:30,754
"I woke up this morning on
the green side of the grass.
750
00:56:30,755 --> 00:56:32,388
Thank you, Lord."
751
00:56:32,389 --> 00:56:34,324
If that doesn't
impress you, what does?
752
00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:38,963
The music comes from
such a stressful place.
753
00:56:40,397 --> 00:56:42,165
I mean, it's like the way you
make a diamond out of coal.
754
00:56:42,166 --> 00:56:44,400
There's so much pressure
on that culture.
755
00:56:44,401 --> 00:56:46,069
God's music, what
it has done for me,
756
00:56:46,070 --> 00:56:47,537
it really changed my life
757
00:56:47,538 --> 00:56:50,206
after the things that
I've been through.
758
00:56:50,207 --> 00:56:54,310
And then when I hear the songs
and I hear a particular song,
759
00:56:54,311 --> 00:56:56,245
they singing exactly
what I went through,
760
00:56:56,246 --> 00:56:57,747
I'm like, oh my God.
761
00:56:57,748 --> 00:57:00,884
It just inspired me to wanna
sing and help other people
762
00:57:00,885 --> 00:57:03,419
how when I listened to
the song it helped me.
763
00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:04,854
And that's the
way I wanna do it.
764
00:57:04,855 --> 00:57:07,023
When I'm singing, I
wanna bring somebody in.
765
00:57:07,024 --> 00:57:09,225
- Gospel music is my whole life.
766
00:57:09,226 --> 00:57:12,997
I don't know where I would
be without it, actually.
767
00:57:14,298 --> 00:57:16,332
When it comes to
African Americans,
768
00:57:16,333 --> 00:57:19,235
we have always been the
bottom of the barrel.
769
00:57:19,236 --> 00:57:21,871
We have always had
to work extra hard
770
00:57:21,872 --> 00:57:25,441
to get the respect and
gain the that we deserve.
771
00:57:25,442 --> 00:57:28,578
If we did not have the
component of music,
772
00:57:28,579 --> 00:57:33,216
we probably would
die quicker than,
773
00:57:33,217 --> 00:57:34,484
we probably would
not be able to take
774
00:57:34,485 --> 00:57:36,152
as much as we could take on,
775
00:57:36,153 --> 00:57:39,789
but music is so strong that.
776
00:57:39,790 --> 00:57:42,225
When I get mad, I turn
Michael Jackson on.
777
00:57:42,226 --> 00:57:45,562
And by the time that thriller
album is over, I am okay.
778
00:57:45,563 --> 00:57:47,264
I'm okay, seriously.
779
00:57:48,566 --> 00:57:51,401
All right, fellas,
let's do this.
780
01:02:45,329 --> 01:02:48,999
- There's a lot of irony
and cleverness in music,
781
01:02:49,867 --> 01:02:53,002
done by people who you suspect
782
01:02:53,003 --> 01:02:55,271
haven't been tested
to the degree
783
01:02:55,272 --> 01:02:58,142
people in the black
community have.
784
01:02:59,643 --> 01:03:00,910
If you're gonna generalize,
785
01:03:00,911 --> 01:03:03,746
you could say it's a bit
complainy, a bit whiny,
786
01:03:03,747 --> 01:03:05,148
and it's a bit suburban,
787
01:03:05,149 --> 01:03:06,749
and what's so bad
about growing up
788
01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:08,417
in a nice house in the suburbs?
789
01:03:08,418 --> 01:03:12,255
So you're not getting along
with your parents, welcome.
790
01:03:12,256 --> 01:03:14,557
I think that's one of the big
things I learned from gospel
791
01:03:14,558 --> 01:03:17,962
is like, give it up a
little bit, stop whining,
792
01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:22,099
don't be so clever,
say what you mean,
793
01:03:24,434 --> 01:03:26,403
and help somebody.
794
01:03:27,404 --> 01:03:32,409
- I've had some very, very bad,
795
01:03:33,277 --> 01:03:34,810
I don't wanna say bad things,
796
01:03:34,811 --> 01:03:38,883
but some very things that
happened to me in my life.
797
01:03:41,118 --> 01:03:42,118
I was shot.
798
01:03:43,387 --> 01:03:45,422
I'm a survivor from meningitis.
799
01:03:46,623 --> 01:03:51,561
I had a problem happen
where my spinal fluid
800
01:03:53,230 --> 01:03:54,697
started to leak out of my ear
801
01:03:54,698 --> 01:03:57,834
because I had a pinhole
leak at my base of my skull.
802
01:03:59,436 --> 01:04:01,638
I was going through a
lot of these bad things.
803
01:04:03,073 --> 01:04:05,341
So, you know what, on my radio,
804
01:04:05,342 --> 01:04:07,410
I was sitting there
and the radio was on
805
01:04:07,411 --> 01:04:10,679
and this song came
on, and it was called
806
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,218
"I'm So Glad That The
Lord Let Me Live On,
807
01:04:15,219 --> 01:04:17,753
but this song ministered to me.
808
01:04:17,754 --> 01:04:20,723
I just kinda transformed.
809
01:04:20,724 --> 01:04:22,993
And it would just uplift me.
810
01:04:24,861 --> 01:04:27,330
I would a strange
feeling come over me.
811
01:04:27,331 --> 01:04:28,497
It's it's just a heartbeat,
812
01:04:28,498 --> 01:04:29,798
it's the thing that's
been keeping me.
813
01:04:29,799 --> 01:04:32,201
I've gone through some
crazy stuff this year,
814
01:04:32,202 --> 01:04:35,404
but I thank God for my
heartbeat, which is the music.
815
01:04:35,405 --> 01:04:37,506
There've been the number
of hardships in my life
816
01:04:37,507 --> 01:04:40,110
that had it not been for music,
817
01:04:41,278 --> 01:04:43,179
I really don't know
where I would be.
818
01:04:43,180 --> 01:04:44,948
In the transition of my husband,
819
01:04:44,949 --> 01:04:48,084
the music, the song
is what kept me.
820
01:04:48,085 --> 01:04:52,588
In your most isolated moment,
you still have a song.
821
01:04:52,589 --> 01:04:55,824
And so, allow that song
and that expression
822
01:04:55,825 --> 01:04:57,093
to come from your heart
823
01:04:57,094 --> 01:04:58,827
and it will always
keep you positive.
824
01:04:58,828 --> 01:05:02,065
So, have there been pressures
in my life? Every day,
825
01:05:02,066 --> 01:05:04,834
but I manage them
through prayer and song.
826
01:05:06,170 --> 01:05:07,536
The other thing
I like about gospel
827
01:05:07,537 --> 01:05:09,772
is that you can measure it
828
01:05:09,773 --> 01:05:14,778
by subtracting it
from our culture.
829
01:05:15,980 --> 01:05:17,813
If it wasn't there,
what would we have?
830
01:05:17,814 --> 01:05:20,984
And I think the answer
is almost nothing.
831
01:05:20,985 --> 01:05:22,218
We wouldn't have rock and roll,
832
01:05:22,219 --> 01:05:24,053
we wouldn't have jazz,
we wouldn't have blues.
833
01:05:24,054 --> 01:05:26,255
And I'm appreciating things
out of the folk tradition,
834
01:05:26,256 --> 01:05:27,790
and gospel definitely is.
835
01:05:27,791 --> 01:05:32,729
It's a homemade music that
was made out of necessity.
836
01:05:33,330 --> 01:05:34,031
It's like food.
837
01:05:34,032 --> 01:05:35,332
You have to eat.
838
01:05:37,801 --> 01:05:39,902
So we went to
sing at Shank Hall.
839
01:05:39,903 --> 01:05:41,104
Well, they was playing
840
01:05:41,105 --> 01:05:43,239
all of the other kind
of dancing music.
841
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,773
So when they called us up,
842
01:05:44,774 --> 01:05:48,144
we didn't know nothing to do
but sing gospel, so we sang.
843
01:05:48,145 --> 01:05:49,745
As I was singing,
844
01:05:49,746 --> 01:05:53,416
we were watching the people at
the table that were drinking,
845
01:05:53,417 --> 01:05:57,386
and there were one table I
watched while I was singing,
846
01:05:57,387 --> 01:05:59,022
they guys had got a beer
847
01:05:59,023 --> 01:06:01,257
and he didn't take
another drink out of that
848
01:06:01,258 --> 01:06:03,459
long as we were singing.
849
01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:05,928
And I watched him after we sang.
850
01:06:05,929 --> 01:06:08,565
So after we finish,
851
01:06:09,833 --> 01:06:14,570
he and a lady came
behind now crying.
852
01:06:14,571 --> 01:06:16,572
She said, I never
heard nothing like this
853
01:06:16,573 --> 01:06:17,940
And I'm looking at her, I say,
854
01:06:17,941 --> 01:06:19,442
what do you mean you
never heard nothing.
855
01:06:19,443 --> 01:06:23,812
She said, "Oh, you guys, it's
so warm feeling," she said,
856
01:06:23,813 --> 01:06:25,414
and she was just really crying.
857
01:06:25,415 --> 01:06:28,217
And I said, well,
my God, this is.
858
01:06:28,218 --> 01:06:31,454
And that made me feel
that we might've been
859
01:06:31,455 --> 01:06:33,889
doing something that was good,
860
01:06:33,890 --> 01:06:38,895
that maybe would
change somebody's mind
as to how they live.
861
01:06:40,330 --> 01:06:43,699
I'll never forget that, that
was just fantastic to me.
862
01:06:43,700 --> 01:06:46,036
Well, I've been
singing since five.
863
01:06:47,704 --> 01:06:52,709
For some reason
music it spoke to me.
864
01:06:53,843 --> 01:06:55,511
While everybody
else was out playing
865
01:06:55,512 --> 01:06:58,847
and doing sports and all
of those other activities,
866
01:06:58,848 --> 01:07:03,452
it just connected to me, it
was where I felt comfortable.
867
01:07:03,453 --> 01:07:06,489
And so, I did it regularly.
868
01:07:06,490 --> 01:07:10,759
And with me doing it regularly,
it became what I could do.
869
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,861
Some people could
play basketball,
870
01:07:12,862 --> 01:07:15,098
some people were books smart.
871
01:07:15,099 --> 01:07:17,933
Music was just what I could do.
872
01:07:17,934 --> 01:07:20,436
Didn't really get
taught in the aspect
873
01:07:20,437 --> 01:07:22,471
of going to school
for it or any of that.
874
01:07:22,472 --> 01:07:25,741
It was just a natural
talent that I had.
875
01:07:25,742 --> 01:07:27,843
In working with music,
876
01:07:27,844 --> 01:07:31,580
I decided to work with a
gospel choir at high school
877
01:07:31,581 --> 01:07:33,682
at John Marshall High School.
878
01:07:33,683 --> 01:07:35,751
And at first I was a
little hesitant about it,
879
01:07:35,752 --> 01:07:38,922
because I had just graduated
from north division
880
01:07:40,124 --> 01:07:41,890
and the young lady that
I was dating at the time
881
01:07:41,891 --> 01:07:43,859
had asked me to come
work with her choir.
882
01:07:43,860 --> 01:07:47,596
And I was just like, I don't
have time for these kids,
883
01:07:47,597 --> 01:07:50,032
even though I graduated
like six months prior too,
884
01:07:50,033 --> 01:07:52,635
but I looked at them
like they were kids.
885
01:07:52,636 --> 01:07:54,203
So at first it took me a minute,
886
01:07:54,204 --> 01:07:56,505
and I decided to start
working with them,
887
01:07:56,506 --> 01:07:58,808
and it just grew and grew.
888
01:08:08,652 --> 01:08:10,519
Music became my best friend.
889
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,257
It became my comfort.
890
01:08:14,691 --> 01:08:16,792
When I didn't feel like I
could relate to anybody,
891
01:08:16,793 --> 01:08:18,595
I could always relate to music.
892
01:09:10,714 --> 01:09:13,582
You know, it's like
singing a love song
893
01:09:13,583 --> 01:09:18,588
and you never been in
love, you hear the lyrics.
894
01:09:20,023 --> 01:09:22,925
But if you've been in love
and you hear the lyrics,
895
01:09:22,926 --> 01:09:25,795
hey, now it's saying
something to you.
896
01:09:31,668 --> 01:09:33,169
- It feels magnificent.
897
01:09:35,572 --> 01:09:38,707
You don't real, but
with any ministry,
898
01:09:38,708 --> 01:09:41,978
I mean, you're helping others
but it's helping you, too.
899
01:10:00,230 --> 01:10:03,432
- If you're not doing
music to reach someone,
900
01:10:03,433 --> 01:10:05,535
then there's no, you're
not, why are you doing it?
901
01:10:47,377 --> 01:10:49,846
Gospel music is amazing.
902
01:10:57,987 --> 01:11:01,123
Love, like all of that,
all those good things.
903
01:11:01,124 --> 01:11:05,295
Like it's just, gospel
music is amazing.
904
01:11:18,575 --> 01:11:23,580
- Gospel music has a way of
speaking directly to the heart.
905
01:11:25,248 --> 01:11:30,253
It has a way of conveying
a message with such intent
906
01:11:32,155 --> 01:11:33,989
that it always hits this mark.
907
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:35,724
But when you hear gospel music
908
01:11:35,725 --> 01:11:38,261
and it's the real gospel music,
909
01:11:39,429 --> 01:11:40,929
it definitely just
opens your eyes
910
01:11:40,930 --> 01:11:43,066
to colors that you've
never seen before.
911
01:14:55,024 --> 01:14:57,226
Gospel music is an
American art form.
912
01:14:58,595 --> 01:15:03,299
It deserves as much respect
as blues, jazz, swing,
913
01:15:04,734 --> 01:15:06,869
every other kind of American
music, but it doesn't get it.
914
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:10,806
Every form of music
changes your emotion.
915
01:15:10,807 --> 01:15:12,575
When you get to gospel music,
916
01:15:12,576 --> 01:15:15,010
it gives you inspiration,
it gives you life.
917
01:15:15,011 --> 01:15:17,145
Just by its name alone,
918
01:15:17,146 --> 01:15:20,248
gives it authority over
every other form of music.
919
01:15:20,249 --> 01:15:22,651
This is the original soul music.
920
01:15:22,652 --> 01:15:24,587
This was the music of
people who could not
921
01:15:24,588 --> 01:15:29,391
express themselves publicly
for fear of backlash.
922
01:15:29,392 --> 01:15:32,896
It is a voice for the voiceless.
923
01:15:33,997 --> 01:15:35,964
That's what stands out.
924
01:15:35,965 --> 01:15:39,167
We have a voice that
no one else has,
925
01:15:39,168 --> 01:15:42,705
no other, in my opinion,
no, it's factual,
926
01:15:42,706 --> 01:15:46,208
in any other genre
there is no other,
927
01:15:46,209 --> 01:15:48,311
it can't be, it's
not comparable.
928
01:15:51,114 --> 01:15:52,180
Can I get a amen?
929
01:15:52,181 --> 01:15:53,181
Amen.
930
01:16:44,768 --> 01:16:49,172
♪ I'm gonna hide
behind the mountain ♪
931
01:16:55,344 --> 01:17:00,316
♪ I'm gonna hide behind,
hide behind the mountain ♪
932
01:17:05,421 --> 01:17:09,591
♪ Every time I try
to excel in you ♪
933
01:17:09,592 --> 01:17:14,597
♪ My past keeps on
beating me down, Lord ♪
934
01:17:16,032 --> 01:17:19,668
♪ I need your strength,
Lord, I need your power ♪
935
01:17:19,669 --> 01:17:24,674
♪ So no longer will I be bound
936
01:17:25,909 --> 01:17:29,845
♪ Save my life, Lord
937
01:17:29,846 --> 01:17:34,750
♪ With my hands lifted up
938
01:17:34,751 --> 01:17:39,621
♪ And my mouth
filled with praise ♪
939
01:17:39,622 --> 01:17:44,627
♪ With a heart of thanksgiving
940
01:17:45,528 --> 01:17:48,563
♪ I will bless thee, O Lord
941
01:17:48,564 --> 01:17:53,569
♪ I just wanna be like Jesus
942
01:17:57,874 --> 01:18:00,943
♪ And I wanna walk right
943
01:18:00,944 --> 01:18:04,146
♪ I wanna talk right
944
01:18:04,147 --> 01:18:09,152
♪ I wanna live right
and I wanna give right ♪
945
01:18:10,019 --> 01:18:12,354
No, I'm not gonna sing.
946
01:18:12,355 --> 01:18:15,758
♪ Four seasons to a year
947
01:18:15,759 --> 01:18:18,660
♪ Winter, spring,
summer and fall ♪
948
01:18:18,661 --> 01:18:21,229
♪ You created so many things
949
01:18:21,230 --> 01:18:26,235
♪ I know that you did
it all just for me ♪
950
01:18:27,403 --> 01:18:31,639
♪ I just wanna sing
praises to the king ♪
951
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:36,544
♪ Lifting up my voice
while I have the choice ♪
952
01:18:36,545 --> 01:18:39,715
♪ You and I must make
953
01:18:41,250 --> 01:18:42,617
It's terrible.
954
01:18:42,618 --> 01:18:47,623
♪ Why am I treated so bad
955
01:18:51,961 --> 01:18:56,966
♪ One by one we'll
gain the portion ♪
956
01:18:58,634 --> 01:19:03,572
♪ And they will dwell
with the immortals ♪
957
01:19:06,275 --> 01:19:11,280
♪ And when they ring
the golden bells ♪
958
01:19:14,150 --> 01:19:17,420
♪ Bells for you and me
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