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ROBIN GREER:
Nicole told him
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she wanted to separate.
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She was experiencing
independence
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for the first time
in her adult life, ever.
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GREER:
Marcus Allen was O.J.'s
really good friend.
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Nicole-- she didn't really
want anyone to know
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that they were
carrying on this affair.
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JILL SHIVELY:
I almost collide
with this Bronco
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running the red light.
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I'm like, "That actor.
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That's O.J.." So I called LAPD.
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TOM LANGE:
When I looked at the bodies,
I could see Nicole.
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She'd been nearly decapitated.
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D'ANNE PURCILLY:
He would say to her,
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"I am going to
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"chop you up in little pieces,
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"and no one will know
where you are,
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not even your children."
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(laughing)
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Bye-bye, Sydney.
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We'll see you again real soon.
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We were supposed
to go out one Friday night
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and I got back and I called her,
and I'm like, "You know,
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I know we're supposed to go
out tonight. I'm so wiped out."
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And she had told me that she had
met these guys, I guess,
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with Faye
at the coffee shop, and...
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and they were young,
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and they were really fun
and refreshing.
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I actually introduced her
to Ron.
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Hence a lot of
other pain that I have.
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MARK DeCARLO:
Right next to me
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is, uh, Ron Goldman,
a 23 year old tennis pro.
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-Give him a big hand
for coming down.
-(cheering, applause)
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FAYE:
He used to go to
Starbucks all the time.
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I introduced them one day.
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And then they created,
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you know, a friendship
with each other.
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She said, "Yeah,
I'm really having fun.
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"I'm really
loving life right now.
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"I've never felt better.
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I've never been happier."
And...
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I said, "That's great."
She goes...
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I said,
"We'll go out next weekend."
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She said, "Yeah, definitely
go out next weekend."
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She goes,
"I want you to meet these guys.
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You're gonna like them.
They're really nice."
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I said, "Oh, yeah, great,
let's do it."
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That was the last time
I spoke to her.
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She died on Sunday.
I talked to her on Friday.
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♪
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NEWSMAN:
The neighbors who found
the bodies were horrified.
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NEWSWOMAN:
Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman
were found just after midnight.
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WOMAN:
My husband is turning
the same way,
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and he's saying to me,
"There's a body."
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NEWSMAN: Dead from
a knife wound to her throat
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so deep that it nicked
her spinal cord.
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NEWSWOMAN:
The murder weapon was a knife.
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MAN:
There was a lot of blood.
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NEWSMAN:
As we track down the clues
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to unravel this murder mystery.
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BILL CLINTON:
...the biggest tragedy,
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because two people were killed.
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Children were robbed
of a mother,
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families lost loved ones, and...
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and a man widely admired
in this country is...
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is now caught in the web
of a terrible tragedy.
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LAWYER:
June 13th. Did you have occasion
to go by Rockingham?
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I was called to Rockingham.
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LAWYER:
And who called you
to Rockingham?
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Arnelle.
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She said Nicole was dead.
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LAWYER:
Did she say anything
other than that?
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I said, "What?"
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And she said, "Nicole is dead."
And I said, "What happened?"
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She says, "I don't know.
The police are here."
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She said, "Will you come over?"
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-LAWYER:
And did you go over there?
-Yes, I did.
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One of the officers, he was,
um... Receded on the top.
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He had no... He...
Dark, with hair on the side.
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And he, uh, informed them
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that Nicole was dead.
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I gasped.
I threw my hand over my mouth.
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Uh... I grabbed Arnelle.
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And we embraced each other.
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This is a very
difficult thing for me.
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LAWYER:
Sure.
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Continue.
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DENISE:
It's 06:00 in the morning,
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and, um, all of a sudden,
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I hear this--
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and it's a noise
I'll never forget--
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it was such a...
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gut-wrenching, curdling scream
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out of my parents' bedroom
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that I... dropped everything,
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and I ran back to my parents.
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And my mom was on her knees
and my dad was...
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my dad was on his elbow,
he was just looking up at her.
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And I grabbed the phone
out of her hand and I said...
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I said, "Who is this?"
And she said, "It's Tom Lang."
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And I said... I said, "What?"
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And she... he said,
"Your sister's been killed."
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And I said...
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I said, "Oh, my God."
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I said, "He did it."
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I said, "He finally did it."
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I said, "Oh, my God."
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And he said, "Who?"
And I said...
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I said, "O.J. Simpson."
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I said, "He finally killed her"
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D'ANNE:
The morning I saw on the news..
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(clears throat)
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...they were just saying--
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this is really hard--
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that O.J.'s ex-wife
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had been killed.
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I thought it was Marguerite.
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Denise answered the phone
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and she's...
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she's wailing.
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And she said,
"D'Anne, it's Nicole.
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It's Nicole."
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We just couldn't believe it.
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I... Uh...
It just was so foreign.
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And Lou had gone up--
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I can't remember
who had gone up with him--
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to pick up the kids.
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I asked about the kids,
where were the kids?
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He said the kids were fine.
They were at the police station.
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I said, "Can I go get the kids?"
And they said, "Yes."
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LAWYER:
Did you have any discussion
with the kids at all?
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Um, more or less
just kidding with them,
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trying to keep them,
you know, um...
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They wasn't puzzled
or asking questions.
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They were just, you know,
they seemed to be normal.
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DOMINIQUE:
Denise called to tell me
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that Nicole had been killed.
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And, um....
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And she was gone.
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I eventually made my way home.
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It was hours before...
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...A.C. showed up with the kids.
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My dad and A.C. lectured me
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and said, "You can't
tell anybody that O.J. did it
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because we don't know."
And I said, "I didn't."
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I got reprimanded.
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I thought that was so...
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weird.
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PRODUCER:
Who do you think that came from?
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I know where it came from.
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I know precisely
where it came from.
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And it just came down
the chain of command.
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So nobody would
say anything bad.
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I remember seeing
my mom and Sydney
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sitting on the couch.
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And my mom telling her
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that her mom was killed.
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And... there was, like,
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just a shock and a stare and...
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nothing.
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There were no tears,
there was no reaction.
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There was, like, just staring.
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The first thing my dad did
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in the house
is we turned off the TVs
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and we put them all on VCRs
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so the kids would not
see any of the news.
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There was no news on any TV
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except my dad's TV
in his bedroom.
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There was just a... a lot.
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But I went into protection mode.
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I mean, the kids came and it...
I was like,
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"Bam, that's
how I'm gonna do this.
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"That's how I'm gonna do this.
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This is how I'm gonna survive."
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I think it was at that time
I made a promise to myself
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and I made a promise to Nicole
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that I would do
everything in my power,
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as long as those kids
were around us,
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to... to, uh, protect them.
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LANGE:
Initially, he was not arrested.
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Simpson returned to Rockingham
with his attorneys.
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So I left that crime scene
and went to Robbery Homicide,
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where we were gonna interview
Simpson with his attorneys.
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I don't know that
he even realized that
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when I first saw Simpson,
his left hand was bleeding.
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It's the middle finger
of his left hand.
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Left hand. What do we have
at the crime scene?
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Dripped blood tailing
in the same direction as
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the bloody footwear impressions.
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There's a lot of things that
subsequently stood out to us.
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The way that he talks,
the jumping around
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when we ask about his
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now bleeding finger.
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Blood is at the core
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of what we're gonna be doing,
at the core of this evidence.
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If his blood
is at that crime scene,
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and we have blood
on those gloves
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and we have
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blood in his car--
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which, all those things
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turned out to be true--
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he's now a suspect.
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But it's gonna
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take more than 48 hours
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to get back any PCR
or anything else.
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I called my mom, I told her
what happened that night.
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I was really angry.
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Like, I almost got hit by O.J.
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My mom thought that
he could have gone there
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and saw what happened
and was in a hurry to get home
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because he would have
been implicated.
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None of us at that time
wanted to believe
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that he was, um, a murderer.
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Like a lot of women,
they thought that,
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"Oh, he was handsome,
he wouldn't do that."
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You know, "He loved his wife."
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I remember talking my mom,
both feeling afraid.
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Afraid of seeing something
we shouldn't have seen
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or reporting something.
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And... But then again,
she told me, "No,
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"you should call them back
and-and make sure
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that you-that you get a report."
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That same day,
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two detectives
show up at my door,
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and they want to know
what I saw.
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And I gave them
the license plate number.
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And I remember it
as being 3CWZ788.
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But I had transposed
the numbers,
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and they said,
"That's O.J.'s car.
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I remember them telling me
that they're gonna keep
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my information private
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so no one will know
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who I am and what I'm saying.
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But after I talked to them,
the next day,
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I was bombarded with media
at my door.
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And they kept coming
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to my home
and peering in my windows
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as I was putting
my daughter to bed.
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She was five at the time.
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They knew where I worked,
so they got me fired
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because they showed up
at my job.
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because they showed up
at my job.
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It just really affected
every area of our lives.
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I had asked them
who let our information out
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I had asked them
who let our information out
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because a lot of witnesses
were having that same issue,
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and he said there was
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a leak within
the police department
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'cause O.J. "had friends"
in the police department.
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NEWSMAN:
The case that's
horrified the nation.
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NEWSMAN 2:
ESPN reports
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bloodstained clothing
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was found in O.J.'s home.
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NEWSMAN 3:
Simpson was questioned by polie
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for several hours yesterday
and is said
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to be devastated
by the apparent murders.
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And police will not
rule him out as a suspect.
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NEWSMAN 4:
Simpson's attorney,
Howard Weitzman,
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says the couple was on
the verge of reconciliation.
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They seemed to get along
on a more than cordial basis.
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There was a viewing
on Wednesday, and I just...
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I-I couldn't do that.
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I wasn't able
to put that together.
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TANYA: I sat down
on the couch outside of
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the viewing room,
and all I heard were screams.
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(sighs)
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All I heard was Denise.
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And she just kept saying,
"Oh, my God."
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It was awful.
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It was the worst experience
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in my whole life.
It was, like, my best friend--
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my sister--
was laying in this coffin,
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It was so hard to see.
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Then we had to pick out
a dress for her,
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and we had to pick out
a turtleneck for her
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bec... because
her throat was cut.
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He (bleep)
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almost decapitated her.
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He cut her throat.
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(crying)
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It was so awful.
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It was so awful.
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Oh...
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He just stood over the...
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the coffin, looking at her,
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saying he was sorry.
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"I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
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Nic, I'm so sorry."
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He sat next to me.
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And he looked at me
and he said...
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"I'm so sorry, girl."
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He was just admitting that he...
he did it and he's sorry.
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I'm sure he was.
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I was about to walk in the room
and O.J. stopped me
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and he looks at me, and he says,
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"Minnie,
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you have to come with me
to go see Nicole."
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And he grabbed my hand.
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And he took me over to Nicole,
and we knelt there
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with Nicole.
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And I don't know why me.
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And he said...
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And I sat there, I kneel...
I knelt there with him
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in front of my dead sister.
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(crying)
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And, um...
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He said,
"Where's that ring I gave her?"
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D'ANNE:
He said, "I'm looking
for a ring, a piece of jewelry"
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And I thought, "Well,
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"that's weird.
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But, no,
you-you can't touch her."
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And then he walked out
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and tried to get
in the car with Dita.
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We didn't really know
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if O.J. had done this,
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so I got in, too.
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Dita turned to him at one point
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and said...
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"Did you do this?"
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And he l... leaned forward,
looked down.
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"Dita, I loved her.
I loved her too much.
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I just loved her too much."
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And I'm s...
I was like, "He's gonna...
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he's gonna tell her he did it."
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He didn't.
He just kept saying
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over and over again,
"I loved her too much."
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No.
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But it doesn't surprise me.
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'Cause he always went to them.
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And then, all of a sudden,
I went outside.
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And Shapiro came up to me.
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This was the (bleep) up part.
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Shapiro came up to me and he
goes, "Can we exhume the body?"
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And I said,
"What does that mean?"
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He goes,
"We want to unbury the body."
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And I said, "(bleep).
She's not even buried yet."
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I said, "How can you
want to exhume her body
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"when she's not even buried?
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She just died."
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I couldn't believe that he would
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even ask me something like that.
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Oh, it was... That was
just a f-friggin' nightmare.
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(sniffles)
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(sighs)
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NEWSMAN:
O.J. Simpson attended funeral
services for his ex-wife.
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The service for
Nicole Simpson was private.
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NEWSMAN 2:
It was such a crowded scene
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L.A. city traffic officers
had to come in to control acces
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from Sunset Boulevard.
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DENISE:
It was a media frenzy.
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They were, like, riding
right next to us. The guys
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that were actually
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driving the cars
had their cameras,
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and they were filming us
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in these limousines
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all the way up to Los Angeles.
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NEWSMAN:
Out of the back
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of one of the limousines,
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the two small Simpson children,
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followed by
O.J. Simpson himself,
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the mourning ex-husband,
the grieving father,
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the focus
of a murder investigation.
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D'ANNE:
When we got there,
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the police had s-spoken to us
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at the funeral and said,
"You know,
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"we're watching him.
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You know,
you need to watch him."
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So, we kind of knew,
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but you didn't know,
and you want
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to believe that it...
"No, it couldn't have been him.'
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A.C. was out directing traffic.
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And I remember David and I
walked right up to him,
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and we said,
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"What do you think, A.C.?
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"What do you think?
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Did he do it?"
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And he said, "I don't know.
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I just don't know."
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Don't you think you would say,
"Absolutely not"?
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That's not what he said to us.
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Now, we found out later
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that he denied he said that,
but David
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and I were very clear
in him responding that way.
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NEWSMAN:
Moments later,
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with presidential-like
security guards
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jogging by the side of his lim,
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the funeral procession
sped off to the cemetery.
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At the gravesite,
the-the people
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that lived around the cemetery
sold their rights
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to the media so they could have
their cameras
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in the backyard.
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I heard that he went back
to the gravesite
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and he screamed at the grave.
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That he was angry.
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And that the...
that the cemetery called...
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...to say that he was there
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and he was screaming
at the grave.
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And it was just, like...
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(bleep) bizarre.
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NEWSMAN:
Early as this morning, O.J.'s
family was standing by him,
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and his fans were
displaying their support
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outside his mansion.
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What do you think the mindset
404
00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:23,540
and the feeling is
in that home right now?
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Uh, horror. Nightmarish horror
for everyone involved.
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My job was to try
to work sources
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00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:34,500
in the police department
and elsewhere
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to find out what
the evidence was, uh, showing.
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00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,660
I wrote a story that ran
on the front page
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indicating that Simpson
was regarded
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as the principal suspect,
and that he was expected
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to be arrested
within a day or so.
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DENISE:
We were in the house,
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and we started, you know,
packing up her things.
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And all of a sudden,
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I heard helicopters.
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People were knocking
on the door,
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and they wanted
to come into the house.
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And then that's when we said,
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"Well, what is going on here?"
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Mr. Simpson was scheduled
to surrender this morning
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to the Los Angeles
Police Department.
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Mr. Simpson has not appeared.
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The Los Angeles
Police Department right now
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is actively searching
for Mr. Simpson.
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D'ANNE:
We were at the Brown's house.
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Dita was on the phone,
and she was very agitated.
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And I was like, you know,
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"Who's she talking to?"
And she said, "It's O.J.
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He's in a car."
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He said, "I want to
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"go see where
she's buried again.
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I want to see the kids."
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I'm pulling Tanya
into the back bedroom,
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all the way in the back
of the house,
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and saying, "We're calling 911.
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We're doing this right now."
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"Oh, I don't know whether I can.
I don't know
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whether I can."
I'm like,
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"Tanya, we're doing it."
The two of us
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called 911
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and said, "We know where he is.
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He's on the 405 freeway
coming down here
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to us."
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DENISE:
Simpson called my dad,
and he says,
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"I just want to be with her.
I just want to be with her."
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00:22:12,250 --> 00:22:15,370
"I'm going to Nicole," he said.
448
00:22:15,450 --> 00:22:19,410
"I'm going to be with Nicole,"
is what he said.
449
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And my dad collapsed.
450
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My dad collapsed.
451
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And he said, "No.
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Don't do this.
You can't make this worse
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than it already is."
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NEWSMAN:
Someone purporting to be
O.J. Simpson had called,
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telling relatives
of Nicole Brown Simpson
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that he was on his way.
457
00:22:41,410 --> 00:22:43,540
Relatives notified police.
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00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:45,830
Yeah, everybody thought
he was gonna go commit suicide.
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NEWSMAN 2:
Simpson left behind a letter
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that sounded
like a suicide note.
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00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:53,200
"Everyone understand
I had nothing
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"to do with Nicole's murder.
463
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No matter what the outcome,
people will look and point."
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DENISE:
And then, all of a sudden,
I said,
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"He's not gonna kill himself.
He's too afraid."
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00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,410
He's not gonna
kill O.J. Simpson.
467
00:23:09,540 --> 00:23:12,330
He loves himself too much.
468
00:23:12,370 --> 00:23:15,660
It's much easier
to kill other people.
469
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,660
(sirens wailing)
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DOMINIQUE:
Denise and I got in the car
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and we decided
we were gonna catch him.
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00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:25,660
(chuckles)
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I don't know what we thought.
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So we got in the car
and we raced on the freeway,
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and we were going
100 and something,
476
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and we were
trying to call police
477
00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:36,830
and trying to call this
and trying to call that,
478
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and all of a sudden,
there was so much chaos
479
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and we stopped and went,
"What are we doing?"
480
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,330
God, are we stupid.
What were we thinking?
481
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Why would he go down there
and kill himself?
482
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:53,370
He says he wants to go
be with Nicole.
483
00:23:53,450 --> 00:23:55,000
Okay. So he's gonna
go sit down there,
484
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,330
and he's gonna talk to her
and blame it on her. What?
485
00:23:57,410 --> 00:23:58,750
I remember my mom and I--
486
00:23:58,830 --> 00:24:00,040
we were sitting on
the edge of the bed,
487
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,410
and she goes,
488
00:24:01,540 --> 00:24:03,000
"I just want my family
to come home.
489
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:04,080
"Just come home."
490
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LANGE:
I says, "He had a phone?"
491
00:24:09,370 --> 00:24:11,040
So I call and he picks up.
492
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,950
And I told him who I was.
He says, "Yeah,"
493
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,950
and he's talking like he's under
the influence or he's tired.
494
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-(on phone): Don't do this.
-O.J.: All I did
was love Nicole.
495
00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:20,660
All I did was love her.
496
00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:24,370
I just want to be with Nicole.
497
00:24:24,450 --> 00:24:26,120
LANGE:
You don't need
to be with Nicole.
498
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,450
You need to be with your family
and with your kids.
499
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:33,870
Say hi, Daddy. Look,
Daddy's taking movies again.
500
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:37,160
(giggling)
501
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,580
(Nicole laughs)
502
00:24:40,290 --> 00:24:42,250
(sirens wailing)
503
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:48,750
O.J.:
I couldn't do it in a field.
I want to do it at her grave.
504
00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:50,580
I want to do it at my house.
505
00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:52,910
It was the first date
I ever had with Nicole.
506
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,910
Very first date
I ever had with her,
507
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,660
the first night
we ever went out...
508
00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:57,540
-LANGE: Yeah?
-O.J.: We went to that house.
509
00:24:57,620 --> 00:24:59,450
It was all in shambles.
510
00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:01,870
I had just bought it,
but that's-that's
where we went.
511
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,200
-LANGE: Okay.
-O.J.: Our first date.
512
00:25:03,290 --> 00:25:04,500
First night we were together.
513
00:25:04,580 --> 00:25:06,410
We start talking about his kids
514
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:08,580
and anything else
that I can bring up.
515
00:25:08,660 --> 00:25:11,160
Well, he didn't seem overly
concerned about his kids.
516
00:25:25,870 --> 00:25:27,330
Forget the murders, it's got
nothing to do with that
517
00:25:27,410 --> 00:25:29,580
at this point.
It's about a loaded gun
518
00:25:29,660 --> 00:25:31,620
and people potentially
getting shot.
519
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:32,870
And that's my only job.
520
00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:37,540
DOMINIQUE:
It just seemed like a big game.
521
00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:39,410
That made me angry.
522
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:42,040
NEWSWOMAN: Okay, we have
some new information here, uh..
523
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,450
NEWSMAN: Says he has been
arrested for his driving.
524
00:25:44,540 --> 00:25:45,750
(overlapping chatter
from reporters)
525
00:25:50,290 --> 00:25:51,500
I want that Bronco,
526
00:25:51,580 --> 00:25:52,660
and I want to see
if anything's in there,
527
00:25:52,750 --> 00:25:55,000
especially the gun.
528
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,830
Later, we find out
the gun is there,
529
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:58,120
and there's a travel bag,
530
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,120
a big leather travel bag
531
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,410
with a disguise kit in it,
532
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:02,660
with a passport in it,
533
00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:04,290
with his Hall of Fame ring
in it,
534
00:26:04,370 --> 00:26:05,830
a set of keys in it
535
00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:07,500
that have a little teddy bear
on them, I think.
536
00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:09,000
And something else.
537
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,160
And I think that
there's a possibility
538
00:26:13,250 --> 00:26:16,040
that these may be the keys
539
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:18,950
that Nicole has complained
that Simpson may have taken.
540
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,540
LARRY KING:
There are police in the doorwa.
541
00:26:21,540 --> 00:26:24,500
This is the driveway to the
O.J. Simpson house in Brentwoo.
542
00:26:24,620 --> 00:26:26,580
He's driven through
two counties.
543
00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:28,410
LANGE:
Ironically, at the same time
544
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,700
that the pursuit has gone down,
545
00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:32,450
Lou is having the locks removed
546
00:26:32,540 --> 00:26:34,580
from the house
and from the gate.
547
00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:36,660
New locks. So we're screwed
548
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:40,450
until we find out
that Cora Fischman has a key
549
00:26:40,540 --> 00:26:42,250
given to her by Nicole.
550
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,870
So we got a key now,
but no locks.
551
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,290
So what we have,
we get locks constructed
552
00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:53,000
from Cora's, uh, key.
553
00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:56,950
We use the keys
I got from Simpson
554
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,160
to open the lock, and they fit.
555
00:26:59,250 --> 00:27:03,040
So we know that Simpson
took those keys...
556
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:06,160
from the house,
prior to the murders.
557
00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:09,500
Those keys, along with
several other things,
558
00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:13,290
were never brought to, uh,
ever brought in as evidence.
559
00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:16,700
-INTERVIEWER: In June of 1994,
did you have any keys?
-None.
560
00:27:16,790 --> 00:27:19,290
No knowledge of having
any keys to Nicole's house.
561
00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:27,750
Since Friday night,
his home has been
562
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:28,660
a nine-by-seven-foot cell
563
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:30,700
in a special wing
of the L.A. County Jail.
564
00:27:30,790 --> 00:27:34,620
Asked me to spend the morning
with my two boys.
565
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,580
And then he started to cry
566
00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:41,200
and said, "I wish I could
spend Father's Day
567
00:27:41,290 --> 00:27:42,330
with my children."
568
00:27:43,870 --> 00:27:45,540
DENISE:
He did talk to Sydney
at one point.
569
00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:47,370
He said he was
"helping the police
570
00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:49,410
find Mommy's killer."
571
00:27:51,290 --> 00:27:53,450
One night, I was
tucking her into bed,
572
00:27:53,540 --> 00:27:54,700
and we were talking.
573
00:27:54,790 --> 00:27:57,120
She says, "Denise,
574
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,410
is my daddy in jail?"
575
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:02,120
And I said yes.
576
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,790
"Is my daddy gonna die?"
577
00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:10,120
And I said no.
I said, "Why?"
578
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,700
"Well, don't they put people
who kill other people...
579
00:28:12,790 --> 00:28:14,080
Don't they kill them?"
580
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,250
And I said,
"They've already said
581
00:28:16,370 --> 00:28:18,160
"they're not going
to do that, Sydney."
582
00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:21,910
That was a tough conversation,
I'll tell you.
583
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,700
That was really, really hard.
584
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:26,830
And we never had
a conversation after that.
585
00:28:26,830 --> 00:28:29,950
And I've never told anybody
about this conversation.
586
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:32,160
She told me that
587
00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:34,500
she was having
588
00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:36,370
some nightmares and stuff.
589
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,910
They had stopped on their way
home and gotten ice cream.
590
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,160
And that's how
they timed when Nicole
591
00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:45,910
was murdered, because there was
ice cream still sitting
592
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,330
at the house on the stairway,
going up.
593
00:28:48,450 --> 00:28:52,330
So they came in through
the garage, they went upstairs,
594
00:28:52,410 --> 00:28:54,410
and the kids were going to bed.
595
00:28:54,540 --> 00:28:56,580
And then she recalled
596
00:28:56,660 --> 00:28:58,910
being awakened
597
00:28:58,910 --> 00:29:02,000
in the middle of the night
by a policeman,
598
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,370
and them escorting them down
599
00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:06,330
through the back of the house
600
00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:08,160
to get them out of the house.
601
00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:10,330
And she said
she remembered seeing
602
00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:12,000
policemen with guns drawn.
603
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:15,160
And I think that
604
00:29:15,250 --> 00:29:18,370
that's what she had
the nightmares about.
605
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:20,450
What the kids could've heard
606
00:29:20,540 --> 00:29:22,200
and, you know,
607
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,330
not seeing, actually,
what was going on
608
00:29:24,450 --> 00:29:26,330
and just hearing the things--
609
00:29:26,370 --> 00:29:29,620
it's like their little brains
just run amok.
610
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,330
It's like,
what are they thinking?
611
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:34,160
We tried to protect them
as much as possible.
612
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:36,950
I mean, my God,
it was everywhere you went.
613
00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:39,870
Photographs and stories
and on TV.
614
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,160
Even in Monarch,
615
00:29:42,250 --> 00:29:44,910
you know,
down by the grocery store,
616
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,330
they refused to put
the National Enquirer out.
617
00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:47,660
They turned it around
618
00:29:47,790 --> 00:29:49,660
and put something
in front of it
619
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:50,660
so nobody could see it.
620
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:52,160
We made games out of...
621
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:54,790
out of being chased
by helicopters.
622
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:58,580
Boom. The helicopters
would swoop, the media.
623
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:01,160
And we'd grab our towels
624
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,410
and we'd run down the beach
like we were superheroes.
625
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:06,080
We were swarmed.
626
00:30:08,370 --> 00:30:12,080
There was no privacy
for a long time.
627
00:30:18,620 --> 00:30:20,910
HOST:
This is the story of the decade
for The Enquirer,
628
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,330
The Examiner, The Globe
and The Star.
629
00:30:23,410 --> 00:30:25,000
I think it's very good
because a lot of people
630
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,500
can, you know, have fun with it.
It's newsworthy.
631
00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:29,830
HOST:
Both The Star and The Globe
have put O.J. on the cover
632
00:30:29,910 --> 00:30:31,660
for an unprecedented
seven weeks running.
633
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:34,290
You have The New York Times
next to The National Enquirer,
634
00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:36,540
ABC News sitting next
to Inside Edition.
635
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:37,950
Everybody's covering this story.
636
00:30:44,450 --> 00:30:46,950
This is a sensational story.
637
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,040
And also the news media
638
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,040
is really starting
to grow and grow
639
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,200
into this beast
that has to be fed.
640
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,080
And so it's just, they're both
feeding each other in a way
641
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,330
and it's just kind
of becoming this...
642
00:30:59,370 --> 00:31:01,950
unstoppable story
that you can't get away from,
643
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,450
even if you want to.
644
00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:05,620
NEWSMAN:
Called before the grand jury,
645
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:09,540
today, she testifies about
her strange encounter with O.J.
646
00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:11,540
He was just, uh, crazy.
647
00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:14,660
NEWSMAN:
This witness, who does not
want her real name used,
648
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:17,120
surfaced last week but she
didn't tell her full story
649
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,910
until over the weekend.
650
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,580
Like many others,
she was afraid.
651
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:23,250
Hard Copy came to my door.
652
00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:25,160
They said, you know,
"We're talking
653
00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:27,700
to different witnesses
and we want
654
00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:29,200
to, uh, talk to you."
655
00:31:29,290 --> 00:31:30,870
One of the things they brought
up to me was,
656
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:32,500
"Oh, you know, if you get
your story out there,
657
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:34,250
"it, um, it...
658
00:31:34,330 --> 00:31:36,660
people will know your story
and you'll be protected."
659
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,160
They offered me 5,000.
660
00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:40,160
At the time, it was...
that was... it was...
661
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:42,160
sounded good
because I'd lost my job,
662
00:31:42,250 --> 00:31:44,330
I was, I think
I was on unemployment
663
00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:47,000
and I was taking care of my mom,
my daughter and my brother.
664
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120
So I thought,
"Okay, I can use that $5,000.
665
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,330
That would be great."
And then I did the interview.
666
00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:55,450
I got called down
to the D.A.'s office again
667
00:31:55,540 --> 00:31:57,080
about my interview.
668
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,790
And, uh, and then, um...
669
00:31:59,870 --> 00:32:02,290
I-I talked
to Marcia Clark about it.
670
00:32:02,370 --> 00:32:04,500
I told her, "Well, yeah,
I-I did this interview."
671
00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:06,540
She goes, "Did you take money?"
I said, "Well,
672
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:09,330
they offered me $5,000,
but I won't take it."
673
00:32:09,410 --> 00:32:11,830
So then she gets mad
and starts yelling at me
674
00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:13,410
and says that I...
She says...
675
00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,500
I remember it to this day,
she stuck her finger in my face,
676
00:32:15,580 --> 00:32:17,200
"You blew my case."
677
00:32:17,290 --> 00:32:22,000
I felt so ashamed.
I felt so, so scared.
678
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,950
I, um, got an attorney
to protect me from her.
679
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,950
And then I ended up giving him,
when I got the $5,000,
680
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,580
I gave the $5,000 to him.
681
00:32:29,660 --> 00:32:31,950
She basically said,
682
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,120
"Disregard her-her testimony."
683
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,660
And then t-that was it.
684
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:39,000
To this day,
685
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,200
I'm not proud
of what happened
686
00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:45,000
on my part, what I did
and what I wasn't able to do.
687
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,830
I felt like I had
taken blood money.
688
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:48,370
So, I wa... I'd...
689
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:50,830
I was beating myself up
for many years.
690
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:52,750
I felt like I had
691
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:54,910
blown an opportunity to help
692
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,250
and do what's right.
693
00:32:58,330 --> 00:33:01,000
I just remember her
as someone's mom,
694
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,370
two kids' mom who, you know,
s-still need her.
695
00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:08,080
To this day, I'm sure.
696
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:16,450
In O.J. Simpson's corner, one f
the best lawyers money can buy::
697
00:33:16,540 --> 00:33:19,910
the suave 51-year-old
Robert Shapiro
698
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,000
leads the defense team.
699
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,660
He's known as Hollywood's
premier dealmaker.
700
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:28,000
His specialty:
keeping celebrities out of
jail.
701
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,000
When I took the stand in
the preliminary hearing,
702
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,330
um, I-I was so nervous.
703
00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:36,330
Marcia comes up to talk to me
and she says,
704
00:33:36,370 --> 00:33:38,660
you know, "Hey, did you
ever talk to the defense?"
705
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:41,660
I go, "Well, no, wait,
I-I think I might've."
706
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:44,660
She goes, "Well, I have
a tape recording of you here."
707
00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:47,580
I said, "They introduced
themselves as Skip and Bob."
708
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:49,500
And she tells me
that was Robert Shapiro
709
00:33:49,540 --> 00:33:53,620
and that was Skip Taft,
O.J.'s everyday lawyer.
710
00:33:54,580 --> 00:33:56,620
She goes, "Did you know
that they were recording you?"
711
00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:58,910
And I said no.
I said, "They never asked me,
712
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,160
never told me
that they were recording."
713
00:34:00,250 --> 00:34:01,660
She's like,
"Oh, that's illegal."
714
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:04,000
And, uh, she goes,
"Well, I'm not gonna
715
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,370
put you on the stand
until we listen to it."
716
00:34:06,450 --> 00:34:09,370
So her, Marcia, my mom and I
717
00:34:09,450 --> 00:34:11,330
go into her office
to go listen to this tape.
718
00:34:11,410 --> 00:34:14,750
It's basically everything,
you know,
719
00:34:14,830 --> 00:34:17,330
my testimony, front to back.
720
00:34:18,330 --> 00:34:20,330
When he finally
answered the intercom,
721
00:34:20,410 --> 00:34:21,950
he said that he just
got out of the shower.
722
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,660
When he came out,
I mean, I did remember
723
00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:26,330
seeing beads of sweat on him.
724
00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:30,160
It's everything
that I've always, you know,
725
00:34:30,290 --> 00:34:31,660
from day one, you know,
726
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:33,540
there's no wavering
in any of the testimony.
727
00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:36,620
At the very end of the tape,
they say, "Thank you, Alan."
728
00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:39,450
And we hang up the phone,
but they leave the tape going.
729
00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:42,080
And it's still recording.
730
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,200
And they s... the two attorneys,
731
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:48,910
Skip and Bob-- say,
"That's funny.
732
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,330
That's not what
O.J.'s telling us."
733
00:34:51,410 --> 00:34:52,910
And we just all
looked at each other.
734
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,330
I mean, our mouths dropped.
735
00:34:55,410 --> 00:34:57,620
And the other person says,
736
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:00,830
"Are you normally sweaty
when you get out of the shower?"
737
00:35:00,870 --> 00:35:02,370
And then that's when
it hangs up.
738
00:35:05,950 --> 00:35:07,500
Marcia tells me,
739
00:35:07,580 --> 00:35:09,540
she goes, "Well, I can't
put you on the stand today."
740
00:35:09,620 --> 00:35:12,000
She goes, "I'm gonna put you
on the stand Monday morning."
741
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,080
And I said,
"No, that's not good."
742
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,620
Sunday's Fourth of July.
743
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:17,500
And I always light off
744
00:35:17,580 --> 00:35:20,000
the Fouth of July show
on Catalina Island.
745
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,370
I said, "I don't
have a reservation
746
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:23,040
"to get off that island
Monday morning.
747
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,410
I guarantee you
I won't be able to get one."
748
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:27,250
About a day goes by,
and she calls me.
749
00:35:27,370 --> 00:35:29,410
She says, "You and your mom
be down at the heliport
750
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:31,910
at 6:00 in the morning,
Monday morning."
751
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,620
And I said, "Okay."
752
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:35,250
And she said, "We're sending
over the sheriff's
753
00:35:35,370 --> 00:35:36,870
helicopter to come pick you up."
754
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,120
They flew us into downtown L.A,
755
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,000
through the skyscrapers,
756
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,830
land in the parking lot, and
757
00:35:42,910 --> 00:35:45,160
the D.A. investigators
are there.
758
00:35:45,250 --> 00:35:46,620
Three-piece suits, earpieces.
759
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:49,410
I'm like,
"They look like Secret Service."
760
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:51,160
And I'm, like, going,
"Oh, my God." I'm like,
761
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,000
"I feel like the president.
762
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,080
This is amazing."
763
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,540
And next thing I say is, "What's
this costing the taxpayers?"
764
00:35:58,620 --> 00:36:00,330
I couldn't believe
that they were
765
00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:03,500
going to that extent to get me
put on the stand.
766
00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:10,700
WOMAN:
Are you still in fear of your
life, as you were earlier? Or...
767
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:12,620
I'm not making comments.
768
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:15,500
REPORTER: Faye Resnik, the
woman who turned the O.J.
Simpson case
769
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:18,700
upside down,
has now come out of hiding.
770
00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:22,120
Right before Nicole died,
771
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,000
two days before I...
772
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,950
relapsed.
773
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,580
She put me into treatment.
774
00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:32,750
I was stressed out
775
00:36:32,830 --> 00:36:33,700
beyond belief.
776
00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:36,330
She loved me.
777
00:36:36,450 --> 00:36:37,620
She wanted me to be healthy.
778
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:38,790
KRIS JENNER:
Nicole said,
779
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:40,790
"Okay, we are gonna go
780
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:43,160
"visit Faye and make sure
781
00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:45,540
that somebody's there
for her every day."
782
00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:48,040
So she made a schedule for us.
783
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,410
So, I remember
it was Nicole's day.
784
00:36:50,540 --> 00:36:52,830
And Nicole and I spoke,
and she goes, "No,
785
00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:54,580
"Faye's having a good day.
786
00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:56,660
I'm leaving.
Your day's tomorrow."
787
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:59,040
That was the last time
I spoke to her.
788
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,250
I didn't know
how to cope with...
789
00:37:02,330 --> 00:37:04,790
with everything
that was happening around me.
790
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:08,500
And when we found out...
791
00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:10,160
that
792
00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:13,040
Robert was working
with O.J. Simpson,
793
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,910
and they were
794
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,330
coming up with a, um, story...
795
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:20,410
...that...
796
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,870
it must be drug dealers
797
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:25,500
came to murder me.
798
00:37:25,580 --> 00:37:29,500
And instead mistaked
me for Nicole.
799
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:32,290
Like, what?
800
00:37:32,370 --> 00:37:34,790
How would that... How?
801
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:37,450
"Well, because O.J. knew
802
00:37:37,450 --> 00:37:39,450
that Nicole
took you to treatment."
803
00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:41,910
'Cause she told him
804
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,330
she was taking me.
805
00:37:44,410 --> 00:37:46,250
And he was watching the kids.
806
00:37:48,450 --> 00:37:51,160
It's a perfect alibi for him.
807
00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:53,080
And when
808
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,450
I was told that
I had credibility issues
809
00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:57,450
because I was in treatment
and that I would
810
00:37:57,540 --> 00:37:59,160
never be able to testify,
811
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,410
I was gonna get that information
out there someway, somehow.
812
00:38:02,540 --> 00:38:05,540
I didn't care
what the results were.
813
00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:08,500
It's a cycle of violence
that needs to be stopped.
814
00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:11,450
And that's what we're trying
to do here, all of us.
815
00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:14,450
The controversy was,
is that she talked
816
00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:18,200
about some experiences
with Nicole that,
817
00:38:18,290 --> 00:38:21,120
I mean, I guess
I would have preferred
818
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,000
if they weren't out in the open.
819
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,250
I would have preferred
that they weren't in the book.
820
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:29,790
Faye felt that she also had
to show some of the flaws
821
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:32,500
in Nicole, as well,
and make her human. It wasn't
822
00:38:32,540 --> 00:38:36,540
as if she or any of us
are saints.
823
00:38:36,620 --> 00:38:39,830
NEWSWOMAN:
She left the book signing early
after a group of hecklers
824
00:38:39,870 --> 00:38:42,830
accused her of writing the book
out of greed.
825
00:38:42,830 --> 00:38:45,160
It's-it's an ugly thing,
what she's doing.
826
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:46,540
She's being a vulture.
827
00:38:47,540 --> 00:38:49,370
I was getting threats
at the time.
828
00:38:49,450 --> 00:38:51,910
They said about me that...
829
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,040
I was just selling her soul
830
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,870
for money,
which was so disgusting.
831
00:38:58,950 --> 00:39:00,450
That hurt me so much.
832
00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:02,450
I can't even begin to explain.
833
00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:05,200
I went in, both feet.
834
00:39:05,290 --> 00:39:07,580
I dove into the void.
835
00:39:12,370 --> 00:39:14,790
And I would do it again.
836
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:16,500
The only thing I would change..
837
00:39:17,950 --> 00:39:20,330
...is...
838
00:39:20,410 --> 00:39:22,910
obviously...
(sniffles)
839
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,540
not have to go into treatment
840
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:27,620
so I could have told my story
on the stand.
841
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,830
And I could have helped her
more than I was able to.
842
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:36,620
You never get over
losing a friend that way.
843
00:39:37,620 --> 00:39:39,870
And I think I pack it down.
844
00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:43,080
So far deep inside.
845
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,700
You know, it's been 30 years.
846
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:46,330
Hard.
847
00:39:46,450 --> 00:39:48,910
One of the worst days
I've ever experienced.
848
00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:53,450
She always thought
he was gonna hurt her.
849
00:39:53,540 --> 00:39:55,370
She always knew it.
850
00:40:02,910 --> 00:40:04,370
Tonight, L.A. police released
a copy of one of the 911
851
00:40:04,450 --> 00:40:05,790
phone calls
Nicole Simpson placed
852
00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:08,000
when her ex-husband
broke into her home.
853
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,290
A darker side
of the superstar showing through
854
00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:12,410
in this disturbing call.
855
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:19,290
The thing that we were
looking for by interviewing
856
00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:21,250
all these people--
the abuse part--
857
00:40:21,330 --> 00:40:23,080
the domestic violence part.
858
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,450
Denise had told us
859
00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:28,290
that she had taken Polaroids,
860
00:40:28,290 --> 00:40:32,290
and we were trying to find those
through family photo albums.
861
00:40:32,370 --> 00:40:34,750
We were still working
the pre-trial
862
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:36,660
investigation interviews.
863
00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:39,330
We had information-- and I'm
not sure how this came about--
864
00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:42,450
Simpson was involved
in an altercation
865
00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:44,500
in a parking lot
of a bank building
866
00:40:44,580 --> 00:40:46,500
on San Vicente.
867
00:40:46,580 --> 00:40:49,540
And as we were
interviewing the valet
868
00:40:49,660 --> 00:40:51,080
parking attendants,
a gentleman came up
869
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,540
and introduced himself.
870
00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:56,750
He was surprised that LAPD or
871
00:40:56,830 --> 00:40:59,290
investigators from the D.A.'s
office had not been there,
872
00:40:59,370 --> 00:41:00,580
because Nicole
873
00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:03,450
banked at Union Bank there.
874
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:05,830
And she had
a safe deposit box.
875
00:41:05,950 --> 00:41:08,290
So we opened
the safe deposit box
876
00:41:08,370 --> 00:41:11,830
on a table.
And the first photograph...
877
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:14,330
...was a Polaroid of Nicole
878
00:41:14,410 --> 00:41:17,330
with a black eye.
879
00:41:17,450 --> 00:41:19,750
Then she had a diary.
880
00:41:19,830 --> 00:41:23,450
Essentially, a list of abuse
by Simpson.
881
00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:26,000
Every incident where they were,
882
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,330
whether it was a hotel
or a function or whatever.
883
00:41:29,410 --> 00:41:31,870
It gave me chills knowing that
884
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,370
she was the last person to put
those photographs in there.
885
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:38,040
That photograph
as well as others.
886
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,870
It still gives me chills.
887
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:46,500
According to excerpts
from Nicole's diary in 1978,
888
00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:47,500
there's an incident where
889
00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:50,160
he's hitting her
890
00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:52,870
inside their wine cellar,
891
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:56,290
then locks her in there.
She claims
892
00:41:56,370 --> 00:41:58,200
he even once was
893
00:41:58,330 --> 00:42:01,120
abusing her physically while
he was having sex with her.
894
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,120
There was also that time
895
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,000
before Justin, their son,
896
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,700
and a few months after Sydney,
their daughter.
897
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:12,540
"I felt really good about
myself getting back into shape.
898
00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:15,200
"You beat
the holy hell out of me.
899
00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:18,410
"And we lied at the X-ray lab.
900
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,790
And I said
I fell off of a bike."
901
00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:26,160
Reports that Nicole Brown
Simpson left behind
902
00:42:26,290 --> 00:42:29,410
startling evidence
that could destroy O.J.'s case.
903
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,950
Nicole's message from the grave.
904
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,830
In an interview
with the L.A. Daily News,
905
00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:37,000
Nicole's father seemed pleased
with his daughter.
906
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,950
Saying, quote...
907
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:46,540
I remember that the pictures
were in there.
908
00:42:46,620 --> 00:42:48,830
I was really angry
when I saw them.
909
00:42:48,910 --> 00:42:50,830
Because what were
they doing there?
910
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:52,330
They were just being hidden.
911
00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:54,660
They were proof of something,
912
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:57,660
but they just sat
in a safety deposit box.
913
00:42:59,370 --> 00:43:00,500
It was just before trial.
914
00:43:00,580 --> 00:43:02,370
The defense asked the court
915
00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:04,700
if we could show Mr. Simpson
916
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:07,410
the items that we seized
out of the safe deposit box.
917
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,290
I sat there, O.J. sitting right
918
00:43:10,370 --> 00:43:13,160
next to me, and we had
919
00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:14,790
our evidence book.
920
00:43:14,910 --> 00:43:16,450
It was one
of the first photographs.
921
00:43:16,540 --> 00:43:19,700
He just blurted out, "Oh, yeah,
that was New Year's Eve."
922
00:43:19,790 --> 00:43:22,330
I looked at him in disbelief.
923
00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:26,790
Whoever the defense attorney
was-- I think it was Shapiro--
924
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:29,410
"Hey, be quiet. Don't say
anything." It was unbelievable,
925
00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:31,370
But it didn't-it didn't
shock me.
926
00:43:31,450 --> 00:43:34,660
An explosive story
about a beating Nicole suffered.
927
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:37,040
-He was beating her
in front of everybody?
-WOMAN: He was hitting her.
928
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,790
As we started to pull
out of the parking lot,
929
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:40,910
he just reached over
and opened up the door
930
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,790
that, uh, Nicole was sitting by
and just shoved her out.
931
00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:46,120
All of a sudden,
all these people started
932
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,660
coming out of the woodwork
and saying, you know,
933
00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:50,750
"Nicole told me
that she was being abused."
934
00:43:50,830 --> 00:43:52,330
"Nicole told me
this was happening."
935
00:43:52,410 --> 00:43:54,120
"Nicole said
this was happening."
936
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,660
Where were those people?
937
00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:58,790
I saw some things, yes,
I saw a few things.
938
00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:02,160
And I said something.
I didn't go to the police.
939
00:44:02,250 --> 00:44:04,200
I didn't know
you could go to the police.
940
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,330
I didn't know anything about
domestic violence at the time.
941
00:44:06,410 --> 00:44:09,700
And I felt like, "Why can't I
take her out of this?" You know?
942
00:44:09,790 --> 00:44:12,830
I was always there protecting
her when she was little.
943
00:44:12,910 --> 00:44:15,660
Why can't I protect her now?
944
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:18,910
Why couldn't I?
Why didn't she just leave?
945
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,620
I mean, he (bleep) up
our whole family.
946
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:23,700
How could somebody, one person,
947
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,000
(bleep) up
so many people's lives?
948
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:28,870
♪
949
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,870
(sighs)
950
00:44:41,500 --> 00:44:43,290
(sniffles)
951
00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:49,160
It's just so sad.
I just want her back.
952
00:44:49,250 --> 00:44:51,370
-SYDNEY: Mommy?
-NICOLE: Hmm?
953
00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:52,870
SYDNEY:
Where are you?
954
00:44:56,330 --> 00:44:59,500
NEWSMAN:
49 cameramen, 25 anchors,
955
00:44:59,580 --> 00:45:00,580
20 producers I could see.
956
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:02,500
What a nightmare we lived.
957
00:45:02,580 --> 00:45:04,330
Two people are dead.
958
00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:05,910
Open up the can of worms.
959
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,700
She went from being
a victim of domestic
960
00:45:08,830 --> 00:45:10,580
violence and murder
to being a whore.
961
00:45:10,660 --> 00:45:12,500
And I thought,
"This is hopeless."
962
00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:13,700
Shortly before noon,
Chicago time,
963
00:45:13,790 --> 00:45:16,120
and history is in the making.
964
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,910
JUROR: We, the jury,
in the above entitled action,
965
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,950
find the defendant not guilty
966
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,950
-of the crime of murder.
-(cheering, screaming)
967
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:24,620
There was nothing
to cheer about.
968
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:27,290
WOMAN:
Denise became the spokesperson.
969
00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:28,330
He beat his wife.
970
00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:29,370
How can he be a good father?
971
00:45:29,450 --> 00:45:31,370
We didn't talk for years.
972
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,040
The fact that he is
a convicted wife batterer means
973
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,950
that he may present
a risk of harm
974
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,660
-to these children.
-WOMAN: He took them away.
975
00:45:39,790 --> 00:45:43,040
PRODUCER: Were you aware
of events in Florida?
976
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,160
O.J. Simpson did receive MDMA.
977
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,580
He was a user.
978
00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:50,290
Oh, my God.
Everything that this man
979
00:45:50,370 --> 00:45:52,950
has ever done,
he projected on my sister.
980
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,580
WOMAN: Those poor kids have
been through a lot.
981
00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:58,330
Who was there to protect them?
982
00:45:58,370 --> 00:46:01,830
MAN: How do these children
grow up to be normal
983
00:46:01,870 --> 00:46:04,330
if the person
that murdered their mother
984
00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:06,000
was caring for them?
985
00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:10,160
"Not guilty" does not mean
you're innocent.
986
00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:12,160
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