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DENISE:
I was always protecting
Nicole.
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Even when we were young.
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He had this obsession about her.
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I felt like she was just
being molded by him.
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She did tell me
that he has a bad temper.
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DENISE:
We're having lunch.
There was a gay couple
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that was sitting at the table.
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One of the guys kissed
Justin on the forehead.
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All hell broke loose.
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He was going crazy.
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He had her up against the wall,
hurting her
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because of this incident.
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D'ANNE: We were having
our New Year's Eve party
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and we got a telephone call.
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It was Nicole, and she said,
"We got to drinking.
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We're just going to stay here."
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And then we, of course,
all woke up
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with news that Nicole
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was at the police station
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and he had hit her.
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OPERATOR:
911 emergency.
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-(Nicole screaming)
-Hello?
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(sniffles)
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PETROCELLI: Mr. Cowlings, I'm
going to ask you to look at...
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...this picture.
It's been previously marked
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as exhibit number 45.
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Ask if you...
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recognize that picture.
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Yes.
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And who do you
recognize that to be?
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(inhales deeply)
Nicole.
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And does that appear to be
the way that Nicole looked
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when you went over there
that early morning time
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to Rockingham...
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Hey, man, can you give me
a break? (exhales)
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♪
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PETROCELLI: Had you seen Nicole
New Year's Eve?
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-Yes, I did.
-And where did you see her?
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Uh, we were all at a party
for New Year's Eve.
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-And you saw Mr. Simpson
that night also?
-Yes.
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I don't know
if I left before them
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or they left before me.
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...operator 461.
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(indistinct radio chatter)
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JOHN EDWARDS:
This is a 911, uh,
radio call.
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According to the comments,
the operator could overhear
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the woman being beaten
on the phone.
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DARDEN:
So you and your partner
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-proceeded to that address?
-Yes.
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It was a locked security gate
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with a little call box out front
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-with a button.
-(intercom buzzes)
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-Whoa.
-NICOLE: Whoa!
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She said she was frightened
you were going to kill her.
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-No, she didn't say that.
-She did say it on
one of the times.
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-No, she did not say that.
-MAN: She said,
"He's gonna kill me."
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No, she-she did not say that.
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She collapsed
and-and started yelling,
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"He's gonna kill me,
he's gonna kill me."
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She had a, uh...
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cut approximately one inch,
I believe,
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on her left, uh, upper lip.
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She had a swollen, uh...
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right forehead.
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And her,
I believe her left eye
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or right eye was starting
to blacken
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and she had a hand imprint
on her throat,
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on the, uh,
left side of her throat.
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He came out and yelled
at the police saying,
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"You guys have been out here
so many times
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"and you never
arrested me before.
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Now you're gonna arrest me?"
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But they just took her away.
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I don't know exactly
what happened then.
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-Did you take her
to West L.A. station?
-Yes, I did.
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Did you attempt
to photograph her injuries?
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EDWARDS: I photographed
her injuries myself.
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Used a Polaroid 600, I believe.
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I-I took Nicole home
after the photographs.
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I was, uh...
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woken up
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by a phone call, um...
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from Michelle. The maid.
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-PETROCELLI:
S-Simpsons' housekeeper?
-Right, yes.
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I don't know if she said
something about to come up there
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to, um, something was going on.
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Uh, I don't know if she said
O.J. and Nicole
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are fighting
or something like that.
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I walked in,
I came into the kitchen.
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Nicole was-was by the sink
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and O.J. was standing.
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And I said,
"What are you doing?"
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And he said,
"Nicole, can I talk to you?"
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And she picked up the phone
to call the cops again.
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He turned around and walked
back into the shadows.
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I walked over to Nicole, um...
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I embraced her.
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She said, "I want to just
be left alone, AC."
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I said, "Well, if you need me,
you call me."
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And I left.
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DENISE:
Nicole called me
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a day after the abuse,
after what happened to her.
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And she called me up
and she says,
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"Denise," she goes,
"I need you to come up here.
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I need you to take
pictures of my-- of me."
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And she said,
"We had, we had a fight."
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And I said, and when I saw her,
I said, "Oh, my God."
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I said, "What happened?"
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I said, "Why are you with him?
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What are you doing?"
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And so I ended up taking
the pictures of her, her face.
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And underneath her arm
where it was a big bruise.
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At the time, I had no idea
where those pictures ended up.
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We, of course, all woke up
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to New Year's Day with...
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news that Nicole was
at the police station.
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And, uh, he had...
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hit her.
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We just couldn't believe it.
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That was really the first time
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that I was really clueing in
that there was something
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very traumatic going on.
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So I called Dita.
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And she said, "Well, you know
how she can have a sharp mouth?"
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And I'm thinking, huh?
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You can have a sharp mouth
and nobody's hitting you.
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She didn't keep going and
harping on... on the situation.
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I mean, it was done
and that was the end of it.
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And then Nicole,
"I can handle it."
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-DENISE: She can handle it.
-That's the type
of person she was.
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"I can handle it."
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I would say to Judi,
"You know, maybe Nicole
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should separate for a while
or some... some such thing."
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And Judi would say,
"Well, he's gone so much.
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"Don't jeopardize the welfare
of your children
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because he has episodes
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of bad behavior."
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But, you know, we all have
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our line in the sand.
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She would feel that,
well, Nicole could avoid him
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and go about her own life,
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but still have
her family intact.
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I-I feel that Judi,
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it was...
her motives were always pure.
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They were always
good and unselfish.
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But I feel that
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the cost of staying
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with O.J. Simpson was too great
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for Nicole.
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In this case,
let me say up front
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that Mr. Simpson
is not proud at all
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of the fact that he and his wife
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got into an altercation
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and she was stuck--
struck on January 1, 1989.
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He's not proud of that. In fact,
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in the course of this evidence,
you're going to see perhaps
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three letters that he wrote
apologizing to his wife.
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From that day forward
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to the present date,
there's no evidence
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that O.J. Simpson
ever struck his wife again.
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I think she wanted
everything to work so bad.
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And I think that's
why she continued to keep
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getting back together with O.J.,
because I think she hoped
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that it would be
what she expected it to be.
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DENISE: She wanted
to keep her family together.
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And then
it got to a point where,
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okay, it's enough
is enough already.
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"I have to go,"
and that was after seven years.
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(laughs) Yeah!
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Nicole called me and asked me
if I wanted to go to lunch.
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And that's when she told me
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that she is going to leave O.J.
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She said, "I'm n-- I can't...
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and I won't live
like that anymore."
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And she said,
"And I don't want my kids
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"to...
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"to be around that.
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"I want them
to have really healthy,
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normal lives and be happy."
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And she said,
"And I'm not happy,
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and so I don't want them
to feel it."
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She loved those kids and...
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they were her whole life.
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She said, "I just want to,
I need to get away.
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"I need to get out of the house.
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And I want you to tell him."
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(laughing)
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I was in real estate
at that time.
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She wanted me to find her
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a-a lease.
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And she wanted me to tell O.J.
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that she wanted
out of the house.
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I went to the Rockingham house
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and... sat down
with her and O.J.,
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and I said that...
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I'm going to be looking
for a house
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for Nicole and the kids.
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And he was like,
"What are you talking about?
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"That's not right.
It's not right from our kids.
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It's not right.
You're making a mistake."
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And then he started
to appeal to Nicole.
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And she said,
"O.J., I'm doing it."
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She stood firm.
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And so we started
looking for a house.
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And we came to this one that was
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on Gretna Green, which
wasn't far, so we leased that.
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REPORTER:
According to court documents,
O.J. told Nicole's mother...
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-Okay. Kris.
-O.J.: Kris!
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-Okay.
-Yes, Kris, oh, my God.
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-Oh, my God.
-It's me.
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I'm Kris Jenner.
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When we met,
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I think it was a really
fast friendship because
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Robert and O.J. were so close.
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One of my best memories
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of Nicole was when she would
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climb up on the roof
at Christmastime
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and do all
of her own Christmas lights.
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And that would just amaze me.
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And, of course,
I would run home and try to do
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my own Christmas lights,
because I thought, well,
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if she can do it, I can do it.
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I think Nicole was very careful,
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and she didn't just
befriend everybody.
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You know, she was
really warm and amazing,
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but you got to know her first,
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you know,
until she really let you in.
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But, you know, when she did,
she was super loyal,
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and she was
your friend for life.
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I'd known of Nicole
just through Kris.
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Immediately, she became someone
that I considered family,
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considered a sister.
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If there was ever a moment
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that, you know,
you needed her for anything,
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she would drop whatever she had
to come to your rescue.
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I think ultimately, what really
brought us together--
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and some of the other people
in her life--
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was that she was experiencing
independence for the first time
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in her adult life, ever.
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Now Nicole had
a new group of friends
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that were, you know, that we...
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we're all gonna go out
and have fun.
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You know, we were all
in our 30s and,
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you know, she had a Ferrari.
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(laughs)
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KRIS:
"Late for a date."
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That's her license plate.
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Yep.
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I think she just had
a lot going on
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and was trying
to get everywhere--
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but it was just
a cute kind of nod
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to "Might be a little late."
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(chuckles)
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ROBIN: She started to get
closer with Faye,
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and I wasn't... I didn't really
hang out with them as much.
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Uh, Faye a-and I didn't have
as much in common,
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and we weren't, you know...
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I don't know, we just didn't
really mesh as friends.
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Perhaps no one was more stunned
when the verdicts were read
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than Nicole's best friend...
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TV HOST:
Faye Resnick. She was the first
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to tell the truth about O.J.
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FAYE:
O.J. knows he's guilty.
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He will always be ashamed
of what he's done.
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I'm Faye Resnick.
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I am one of Nicole's
very best friends--
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or was one of Nicole's
very best friends.
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Kris said she wanted
to introduce me
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to her girlfriend Nicole.
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She said, "You guys
are gonna get along great."
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You meet Nicole,
and it was just,
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she was so inviting
and so lovely
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and just so airy and so natura.
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She came down in a towel
because she was late.
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"Sorry, guys. Sorry, guys.
I'll-I'll be right there."
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And, you know, just with
that beautiful blond hair
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that she just, like...
(exhales sharply)
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The three of us,
Nicole, Kris and I,
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it was the perfect storm.
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I was telling her about
Marcus Allen's fiancée Kathryn.
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I was hosting her wedding,
and Nicole was crying,
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and she said
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Marcus was not my friend.
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And I didn't quite understand
what she was saying.
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Then it kind of dawned on me.
I said, "Did something happen
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with you and Marcus?"
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And she says, "Yes,"
and I said, "Check.
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Can I have the check, please?"
(chuckles)
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Marcus was O.J.'s best friend.
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-Besides A.C.
-ROBIN: They were friends,
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but they were also competitive
with each other.
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-MARCUS: They're
bringing her right away.
-He showed me her,
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-but I mean,
I really didn't see...
-She's, like, so incredible.
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She had the towel over her face.
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He pulled it back,
she looked up at everyone
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to-- as to say hello,
you know, like O.J. would do.
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-(laughs): You know?
-ROBIN: And he was sort of
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the new, improved O.J. Simpson.
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You know, he also won
a Heisman,
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he was, you know, the faster,
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better O.J., younger.
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It was like one of those
relationships that turned from,
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he was comforting her,
you know, through
her divorce.
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And I think it was just like
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a n-- a natural thing
that shouldn't have happened.
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ROBIN:
She didn't admit it to me,
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but I showed up at
Gretna Green,
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and, you know...
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He's sitting on the couch,
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and she's sitting
on the-the arm of the couch,
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and she's got his--
her leg draped
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over his leg, and she's like...
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I'm like, "This is," you know,
"that's-that's not a buddy."
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I mean, I don't, I don't treat
my buddies like that, but...
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She didn't really want
anyone to know that
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they were carrying on this,
you know, affair.
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FAYE:
I-I really...
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it was very hard...
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to understand...
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...why she would
go down that road.
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She felt that he had
taken so much from her
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that she didn't feel like
she owed him anything.
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I was nervous about it.
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The thought of her
being with anybody else
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did not do well with him.
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PETROCELLI:
And what did you say to Marcus?
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I told him, uh,
"Marcus, uh, do me a favor
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"and ease up on Nicole,
'cause whatever's happening
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"with you guys
is really screwing her up,
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'cause she's, like,
going bonkers."
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Did it stop then?
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-To your knowledge?
-I assume so.
To my knowledge, yes.
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What did Marcus say to you
when you suggested
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that he back off?
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Uh, he was in a room
with people, he said nothing,
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but the next week, he--
I was taking a nap,
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and he walked into my bedroom
and apologized.
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When you learned this, were
you surprised to hear this?
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Yes.
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Were you upset about it?
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Mm, probably, yes.
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NEWS REPORTER:
Nancy Ney was answering
the hotline
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at a battered woman's shelter
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five days before
Nicole Brown Simpson's murder
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when she received a call
from a woman
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identifying herself
only as "Nicole."
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The caller said her famous
ex-husband had beaten her,
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was stalking her and had
told her a couple of times
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if he ever caught her with
another man, he would kill her.
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Arguably the biggest celebrity
right now
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at the O.J. Simpson trial,
Brian "Kato" Kaelin.
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CLARK:
You a little bit nervous today?
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-Feel great.
-(laughter)
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Little nervous.
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-(laughter)
-(cup clatters)
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KIGHTLINGER:
Mr. Kaelin, are you nervous?
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A little, yes.
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CLARK:
Did you think it might
be advantageous to you
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to stay with the defendant
and get to know him
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for your acting career?
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I don't think we're going
for the same parts.
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-Really. I-I don't...
-(laughter)
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I don't...
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I'm an okay guy, and I think
I'm the guy next door
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and I love all people and...
366
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-You're just a nice guy
who wants to be loved?
-Yeah.
367
00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:15,500
That's true.
368
00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,330
Hi, everybody,
I'm Brian "Kato" Kaelin.
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Nicole was in Aspen
with Faye Resnick,
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and these are people I didn't
know at all at the time.
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I'm just there
with my buddy Grant.
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Nicole's eyes locked
with Grant's
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'cause they knew each other
from celebrity events.
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At the time,
Nicole was divorced,
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and they connected.
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Nicole and Grant
exchange numbers
and they start dating.
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It was like at least a month
of seeing each other.
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And then she had a party.
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And then I saw the guesthouse,
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and then I said,
"Who lives in this guesthouse?"
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FAYE: It actually
worked out pretty well,
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because she needed somebody
to pay part of the rent.
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She was on her own, which
was great and she was happy,
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but it was nice
having Kato in the back.
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The times that O.J.
would come over to Gretna Green,
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there were times
when you would think
they were
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so much in love, like,
they're a great couple.
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And then there could be
a time when they would,
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I-I think they weren't talking.
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And I would say, "W-- uh,
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are you doing something
with O.J.?" and she would say,
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"No, no, we're not seeing
each other this week,"
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and-- uh, but I didn't know why.
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You just, you could tell
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there was just something
that went wrong.
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When an argument
was happening or was brewing,
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I could sense it.
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The kids always would,
basically,
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come to my room, sometimes.
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If they came to my room,
I thought something
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was brewing inside.
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FAYE:
O.J., he was
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kind of spying on her a lot.
404
00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:41,870
Because he was realizing
that she was becoming happy.
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00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:44,330
(inhales)
And...
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...he was, like, stalking,
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hiding in the bushes.
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Actually in the bushes.
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00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,330
"Be careful what you say,"
you know,
410
00:18:58,410 --> 00:19:00,000
"he's-- could be
right next to us."
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00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,250
You know, "I saw him
last night in the bush."
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00:19:02,370 --> 00:19:04,500
"I don't want to get him,
you know, too upset and...
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'cause he's watching
all the time."
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PETROCELLI:
Any other men that, um,
came into her life
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during this time period
that you and she discussed?
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What do you mean by
"came into her life"?
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In other words, men that she was
involved with romantically
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or men that she was dating?
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00:19:20,370 --> 00:19:22,580
Probably was a few guys,
I can't recall their names.
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00:19:22,660 --> 00:19:26,250
You were, um, sort of
obsessed with-with her
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00:19:26,330 --> 00:19:28,450
having that relationship
with Keith, right?
422
00:19:28,540 --> 00:19:29,950
No.
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-Didn't bother you at all?
-Her with Keith?
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With Marcus, with any of them?
Didn't bother me at all.
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00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,330
We had a couple of guy friends
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that would be with us a lot,
Ron and Keith.
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00:19:41,410 --> 00:19:44,120
Couple of times O.J. showed up,
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00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,370
and that would
kind of freak her out,
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that he was there,
and then we'd have to leave.
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DOMINIQUE: In October,
she said that she had gotten
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in an argument with O.J.
and he had banged on her door
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and he broke something
on the door.
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00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,580
I mean, and that's
how she said it,
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that it was
nothing more than that.
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00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:07,290
And apparently,
it was a lot more than that.
436
00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:10,500
She said that the kids
broke the screen door.
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00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:14,290
She didn't make it seem like
it was that big of a deal.
438
00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:28,620
Keith and Nicole, who were
seeing each other, were sitting
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on the couch
at the Gretna Green house,
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and there's a big
picture window.
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If you're hiding in the bushes
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and you're looking,
you can see them
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kissing on the couch,
which apparently,
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that's what O.J. was doing.
445
00:20:38,370 --> 00:20:40,450
The next day, he confronted her.
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00:20:58,870 --> 00:21:00,450
I was coming back home.
447
00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:03,540
I got to the house and...
448
00:21:03,620 --> 00:21:06,370
the doors of her house
had been broken.
449
00:21:06,450 --> 00:21:08,450
And I saw that they were off,
uh, the hinges,
450
00:21:08,540 --> 00:21:10,790
and hinges were broken,
the doors were ready to fall.
451
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:13,580
They were just hanging
by a few of the screws.
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00:21:13,660 --> 00:21:16,950
Nicole had said, "O.J., O.J.
just broke these doors down.
453
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,540
He's insane, he's crazy."
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00:21:18,660 --> 00:21:19,910
And I said,
"You got to be kidding."
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00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,120
I don't even know
what the fight was about,
456
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,950
but obviously it w--
it involved violence
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00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,660
and enough for her to call 911.
458
00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:26,790
She was scared.
459
00:21:31,370 --> 00:21:35,250
I responded to a call
at Nicole Simpson's home
460
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on Gretna Green Way
in-in Brentwood.
461
00:21:39,580 --> 00:21:42,450
The officer that was
there first told me
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00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:43,910
he worked that area
quite a bit, and he said
463
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,160
that was a fairly common
situation
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00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,200
up there involving O.J.
465
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,330
There had been a number
of calls to the house.
466
00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:50,750
That's actually what
jogged my memory
467
00:21:50,830 --> 00:21:53,000
of the first call
with Marguerite Simpson.
468
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,790
You know, it was 20 years
before, however many years.
469
00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:59,080
I originally thought maybe
it was the-the same wife
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until I saw Nicole at the door.
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00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,660
MARKS:
She told me
472
00:22:05,660 --> 00:22:07,370
that there had been
ongoing problems.
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00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:08,700
And then she said,
474
00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:10,830
"I know for a fact
he's gonna murder me one day."
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00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:13,160
♪
476
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,410
And I-- that sort of
took me by surprise.
477
00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:17,040
"If you know
he's gonna murder you one day,
478
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,000
"then how do we prevent that?
479
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,660
We need to
keep you away from him."
480
00:22:20,750 --> 00:22:22,450
She sort of pooh-poohed it
and said,
481
00:22:22,540 --> 00:22:24,750
"Well, uh, you know,
we're trying to work on things,
482
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:26,790
so, I mean, it's,
you know, what we have to do."
483
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:30,830
I think Lou is the one
who said, after she died,
484
00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:35,700
that, "Well, you know,
O.J. broke in...
485
00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:39,500
crashed the door
and went into the house."
486
00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:42,620
And the kids were terrified
even, the kids were scared.
487
00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:44,660
I believe the kids
did come downstairs.
488
00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:47,000
I think
we all talked at the table,
489
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,790
and they had to be up
because I think we were
490
00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:52,750
pounding the hammers
and nails in the doors.
491
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:56,830
And Nicole was, at that time,
after that time,
492
00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:59,660
was very peaceful
in her manner of talking.
493
00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:00,830
I don't think
she wanted to scare the kids,
494
00:23:00,910 --> 00:23:02,910
and that just goes
back to her being a mom,
495
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,750
and the instinct sort of
kicked in of what to do.
496
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:08,330
-Merry Christmas.
-NICOLE: Is this Christmas?
497
00:23:08,410 --> 00:23:11,200
REPORTER:
Two months later,
she and Simpson were
together again
498
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,330
for the children, Christmas '93.
499
00:23:13,370 --> 00:23:14,830
People were talking about
500
00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:16,870
them trying
to rekindle their relationship.
501
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:20,040
And it was
because of all the stalking
502
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,040
and everything that was going on
503
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,620
with him and her that she says,
504
00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:26,450
"He's never gonna
leave me alone.
505
00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:29,500
"I am never gonna
get rid of him.
506
00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:32,080
I may as well go back to him."
507
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,040
Those were her words to me.
508
00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:43,120
SCHAUER:
This is probably
509
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,580
a few months before the murders.
510
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:48,750
I pulled him over
on San Vicente Boulevard
511
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:51,080
in Brentwood for speeding.
512
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,410
And before I could say a word,
513
00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:58,200
there was a man in there
who was insane,
514
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,750
acting like-like a lunatic,
515
00:23:59,870 --> 00:24:02,120
screaming
at the top of his lungs.
516
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,000
His face distorted in anger,
his mouth was wide open.
517
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,330
I mean, there was actually spit
coming out of his mouth.
518
00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:09,580
He was so angry.
519
00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:13,200
He said,
"I'm effing O.J. Simpson."
520
00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:15,410
I went back to the car
to write him up.
521
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:16,540
I went up to the car
with the ticket
522
00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:17,950
to get him to sign it,
523
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,410
and it was like somebody else
had got in the car.
524
00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:25,660
It was, it was the O.J. Simpson
525
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:27,500
that everybody knows and loves,
526
00:24:27,580 --> 00:24:29,660
and I'd never seen
anybody be able
527
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:31,450
to flip a switch like that.
528
00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:32,410
He said,
"I'm having a lot of problems
529
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:33,750
with my wife right now."
530
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:35,160
He said,
"You understand, right?
531
00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:36,330
You're married, you understand."
532
00:24:36,410 --> 00:24:37,950
Gave him his ticket,
and that was it.
533
00:24:42,370 --> 00:24:44,370
While I'm living
at Nicole's house,
534
00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:47,830
there was, um, uh,
rent had changed for her,
535
00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:49,830
or something went on
that she had to move.
536
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:52,500
She moved to Bundy
because she got a settlement.
537
00:24:52,580 --> 00:24:55,750
She got her settlement,
she was able to buy a place.
538
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:57,790
And she wanted
to pay cash for it
539
00:24:57,870 --> 00:25:01,330
because she wanted to own it
and not have to worry.
540
00:25:01,370 --> 00:25:05,620
And so that was her...
541
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,200
That was everything she wanted.
542
00:25:07,290 --> 00:25:09,700
She had a nest
for her two children.
543
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:11,410
When I saw it, it was beautiful,
544
00:25:11,410 --> 00:25:14,500
and there was a room
inside the house.
545
00:25:14,620 --> 00:25:17,580
And I said, "I-I can't live
in the same hou--
546
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:19,120
I don't want to be
in the same house."
547
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,500
First of all, I just
didn't feel right about it.
548
00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:24,660
And then I said,
"No, I'll find a place."
549
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:26,370
O.J. heard that,
and at that time
550
00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:28,120
they were friends again,
and said,
551
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,500
"You can move into my house."
552
00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:31,750
Nicole was very upset
and said I was--
553
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:33,500
I'd been manipulated by O.J.
554
00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:35,660
FAYE:
They were still dating
555
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:37,160
when they were
living separately,
556
00:25:37,290 --> 00:25:38,620
which was very awkward.
557
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,040
And she knew in her heart
558
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:41,450
that she didn't want
to be controlled,
559
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,370
and she knew that
he was controlling her.
560
00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:45,790
As I knew her in those times,
561
00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:48,290
she became more of herself
562
00:25:48,370 --> 00:25:50,330
and had more of a voice.
563
00:25:50,410 --> 00:25:52,700
And so the more of a voice
she had,
564
00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:54,750
of course,
the more he would be upset.
565
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:56,870
He had turned her
into the perfect wife,
566
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:59,000
and that's
what he expected out of her.
567
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,160
I knew she had
reconciled with O.J.,
568
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,040
and she called me and asked me
569
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,290
if I wanted to come over
and spend the night.
570
00:26:06,370 --> 00:26:09,830
She really told me about
that this time it was over.
571
00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:13,000
He had yelled at her
because she was in the pool,
572
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,200
and she was topless in the pool
or something,
573
00:26:15,290 --> 00:26:17,660
and he was, you know,
yelled at her about that,
574
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:19,950
and suddenly he was getting,
you know,
575
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,330
wanting her to cover up
and be, you know,
576
00:26:22,410 --> 00:26:24,410
he was trying
to control her again.
577
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,500
And she realized that
this was gonna be
578
00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:29,330
a really bad...
579
00:26:29,370 --> 00:26:33,160
circle of, you know,
going nowhere.
580
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,080
Now it was for good.
581
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,830
I think he took that
as a real rejection,
582
00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:44,410
and then he would have
to lash out at her.
583
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:46,700
She would lash out at him.
584
00:26:46,830 --> 00:26:50,120
It just became, uh...
585
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,370
not good.
586
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:54,450
But at the same time,
587
00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:59,540
she would never
speak illy of him
588
00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:02,580
until the letter came.
589
00:27:03,910 --> 00:27:06,500
It was something to do with,
he had given her money
590
00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:09,700
that she had not declared
on her taxes,
591
00:27:09,790 --> 00:27:12,000
and so he was coming after her
592
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,580
and he was gonna
turn her into the IRS.
593
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,370
She was angry.
594
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:22,500
She was angry that he would
threaten her and the children
595
00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:25,750
and their ability
to live happily.
596
00:27:25,870 --> 00:27:28,750
For her, "Yeah, okay,
you can treat me like dirt.
597
00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:31,160
You can do it,
but not our children."
598
00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:35,290
She was very good at hiding
things that O.J. did.
599
00:27:35,370 --> 00:27:37,660
I mean, she only
really came clean with me
600
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:39,580
after they were divorced.
601
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:42,120
I just had too much information.
602
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,870
And I knew
he had a knife collection.
603
00:27:43,950 --> 00:27:45,450
I don't know
if people know that.
604
00:27:45,540 --> 00:27:46,700
He was very into knives.
605
00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:48,580
And when we got married,
606
00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:51,950
my father was a lifer marine,
607
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,830
and he had
a ceremonial sword with him.
608
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:59,200
And O.J. was fascinated
by that sword.
609
00:27:59,330 --> 00:28:01,660
He took a hold of that sword,
610
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:03,500
swung him around,
and took the sword
611
00:28:03,580 --> 00:28:05,790
like he was gonna cut his neck.
612
00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:09,330
And it made me nervous
because...
613
00:28:09,410 --> 00:28:11,000
when they were married,
614
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000
there had once been
a conversation
615
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,830
while we were all out
for dinner
616
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:17,040
and we were talking small talk,
617
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,790
and somebody said,
"Well, what are you afraid of?"
618
00:28:19,870 --> 00:28:23,700
My fear, of course, was always,
619
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:27,500
as a flight attendant,
being in a fiery crash,
620
00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:29,790
you know,
fire, dying in a fire.
621
00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:33,330
O.J.'s fear was drowning.
622
00:28:33,410 --> 00:28:36,870
Nicole said at that dinner
623
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,410
she had fears
of being attacked from behind
624
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,160
and being slashed by a knife.
625
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,830
And...
626
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:50,830
go a couple of years
down the road
627
00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:53,620
when they were having
a very difficult time.
628
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:56,080
We were sitting out
on the beach.
629
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,660
And she said, "D'Anne,
you remember that conversation?"
630
00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:05,540
She said, "Whenever
we had these big fights,"
631
00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:08,660
he would say to her,
632
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:13,330
"I am going to chop you up
in little pieces
633
00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:15,830
"and bury you up on Mulholland,
634
00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:17,950
"and no one will know
where you are,
635
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,120
not even your children."
636
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,000
♪
637
00:29:34,910 --> 00:29:36,950
DOMINIQUE:
Uh...
638
00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:41,410
We had gone up
that night for a recital.
639
00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:45,290
And it was Sydney's recital
for her school.
640
00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:50,160
Then, you know, we all went
to the auditorium for the show.
641
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,660
It was the first time
that Simpson was actually...
642
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:55,700
His ticket was left
at will call.
643
00:29:55,790 --> 00:29:57,120
He didn't come with us.
644
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,200
I thought, "That's kind of odd,"
645
00:29:59,290 --> 00:30:02,000
'cause he's usually always there
at every, every event,
646
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,160
every kind of rec-- everything.
647
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:08,290
DOMINIQUE:
I sat with Nic, uh...
648
00:30:08,370 --> 00:30:11,870
O.J. came in and he sat kind
of in the corner in the back.
649
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,870
It was, it was kind of weird.
650
00:30:13,950 --> 00:30:16,250
All of a sudden,
Simpson was behind me,
651
00:30:16,330 --> 00:30:19,040
and then Justin came
and sat on his lap.
652
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040
And I-- so I turned around,
and then it was the first time
653
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,870
that I actually had
a conversation with him
654
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:27,160
where he would tell me,
or he told me,
655
00:30:27,250 --> 00:30:29,700
that he was going to Chicago
that night.
656
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,250
And I thought,
"Well, that's kind of odd."
657
00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:35,790
He's never, ever told me
that he was going anywhere
658
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:38,500
on a business trip, ever.
659
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:41,080
DOMINIQUE:
Every once in a while,
Nic would want to go outside
660
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,370
'cause she liked
to sneak cigarettes.
661
00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:44,700
And we went outside,
662
00:30:44,790 --> 00:30:46,500
and she asked me
about my son's father.
663
00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:48,290
Like, "When you split up,
664
00:30:48,290 --> 00:30:51,160
did he want to be around you
but not want to be with you?"
665
00:30:51,290 --> 00:30:54,370
She said, "'Cause I feel
like O.J.'s staring at me."
666
00:30:54,450 --> 00:30:56,160
That's when she told me,
she said,
667
00:30:56,250 --> 00:30:57,870
"We're going to dinner later,
but it'll be
668
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,950
the first time
he's not invited."
669
00:30:59,950 --> 00:31:01,660
Then we went to the restaurant,
670
00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:05,000
and we were all sitting
around the table at Mezzaluna.
671
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,250
She goes, "Oh, God, there he,
there he goes again."
672
00:31:08,330 --> 00:31:11,660
And I said, "What?"
And she goes, "There he goes."
673
00:31:11,790 --> 00:31:14,700
She goes, "O.J. driving by."
674
00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:18,250
And I go, I go, "God."
She goes, "Yeah."
675
00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:20,370
She goes,
"It happens all the time."
676
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,500
KATO:
After the recital, O.J., uh,
was in the kitchen area.
677
00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:30,830
He said, uh-- at the recital
she was wearing a mini skirt,
678
00:31:30,910 --> 00:31:34,660
and, uh, wondering,
"How can someone at her age,"
679
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,870
he's saying, "What are they
gonna do when she's a grandma?
680
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:38,830
She can't be
wearing these outfits."
681
00:31:38,910 --> 00:31:43,000
He had threatened.
He said, uh...
682
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,950
he didn't get time
to spend with the kids
683
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,200
after the recital,
so he was gonna play hardball
684
00:31:48,370 --> 00:31:51,660
by telling her that he's
gonna report her to the IRS.
685
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:55,330
DOMINIQUE:
We were in the car
and we were driving home.
686
00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:58,120
My mom was really quiet,
like, eerily quiet.
687
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,620
And she said,
"I-I don't have my glasses.
688
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:02,000
I forgot my glasses."
689
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,540
She was acting, like, funny.
690
00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:07,000
DENISE:
She didn't talk
the whole way home,
691
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,450
which was so unlike my mother,
692
00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:10,000
because we would've
talked about the recital,
693
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,160
we would've talked about dinner,
694
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,410
we would've
talked about something.
695
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:15,040
My mom walks in
696
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,910
and walks right by me, slowly,
697
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,040
like, slowly,
and I go, "Hi, Mom."
698
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,620
I go, "How was it?" Nothing.
699
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:23,750
She called Nic.
700
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:25,200
And she--
Nicole said, you know,
701
00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:27,370
"It's okay.
Don't worry about it.
702
00:32:27,450 --> 00:32:30,870
I'm gonna call over there,
and we'll get your glasses."
703
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:33,410
She had our waiter, who was Ron,
704
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:35,080
get the glasses.
705
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,700
He said that
he would drop them off.
706
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:41,410
And that's
how Ron ended up there.
707
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:45,580
My mother,
she was still not the same.
708
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:49,000
It was as if she knew
something was gonna happen.
709
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,370
And something did happen.
710
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:53,330
♪
711
00:32:55,450 --> 00:32:57,330
My name is Tom Lange,
712
00:32:57,410 --> 00:32:59,450
and I was one of
the lead investigators
713
00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:02,160
on the O.J. Simpson
murder investigation.
714
00:33:03,290 --> 00:33:06,200
Allan Park's a limo driver
who was sent to pick up...
715
00:33:06,290 --> 00:33:09,540
O.J. the night
that this occurred.
716
00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:12,120
He was a first-time driver.
717
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,040
He'd never been up there before,
so he always arrives early.
718
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,450
He gets there about 10:25 p.m.
719
00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:19,450
I drove up there
720
00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:23,620
and I pull up to his house,
to his property.
721
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:26,830
I get out and I start
ringing the intercom,
722
00:33:26,910 --> 00:33:28,500
and it's ringing into the house.
723
00:33:28,580 --> 00:33:31,830
It rings and rings and rings,
and nobody picks up.
724
00:33:31,910 --> 00:33:33,200
So I'm starting to wonder,
like...
725
00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:36,410
"Is-is he here? Is he not here?"
726
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:38,040
About 10:35,
727
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,250
we have a witness.
728
00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:42,000
He's walking his dogs.
729
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,040
He goes right down Bundy,
730
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,540
past the Bundy location.
731
00:33:44,660 --> 00:33:46,330
He hears a communica...
732
00:33:46,450 --> 00:33:49,540
It sounds like
an argument between two men.
733
00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:51,950
Then he hears
the clanging of a gate
734
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,950
and he hears somebody yell,
"Hey, hey, hey."
735
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,830
He looks up
and he sees a white, uh,
736
00:33:57,870 --> 00:33:59,660
box-like vehicle
737
00:33:59,750 --> 00:34:01,580
leaving the scene on Bundy
738
00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:03,830
at a high rate of speed.
739
00:34:03,870 --> 00:34:07,000
My name is Jill Shively.
740
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,200
On June 12th, I woke up.
741
00:34:09,290 --> 00:34:11,160
I wasn't feeling that well.
I'd had the flu.
742
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:14,370
I wanted to go to get
a salad bar or something healthy
743
00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:17,910
at this place called
Westward Ho in San Vicente.
744
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000
I left my home at 10:45 p.m.
745
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,450
So I... I looked at my clock
746
00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:25,160
and I said, "Okay,
I have 15 minutes to
747
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,160
get there and get the food."
748
00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:28,000
So I remember jumping in my car.
749
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,700
I'm at the--
driving up San Vicente,
750
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:32,620
and then I'm nearing Bundy.
751
00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:35,200
At that intersection
is where I almost collide
752
00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:38,290
with this Bronco
running the red light.
753
00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:40,370
And it had no lights on,
754
00:34:40,450 --> 00:34:43,200
so I didn't have
that much of a warning.
755
00:34:43,290 --> 00:34:44,910
It swerved to miss me,
756
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,500
but then it had to
swerve to miss hitting
757
00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:49,290
a gray Nissan
going the other way.
758
00:34:49,370 --> 00:34:51,790
And then the Bronco has its, um,
759
00:34:51,870 --> 00:34:53,450
wheel up on the median.
760
00:34:53,540 --> 00:34:56,200
He was yelling at the other
driver to move out of the way.
761
00:34:56,290 --> 00:34:58,620
Then it hit me.
I'm like, that's that guy,
762
00:34:58,700 --> 00:34:59,660
that actor. That's O.J.
763
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:01,830
We had just seen the movie
764
00:35:01,910 --> 00:35:04,660
Naked Gun 33 1/3 with my mom,
765
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:07,620
so that was why
I was able to recognize him.
766
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:08,750
He looked angry.
767
00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:10,660
He obviously was in a rush.
768
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:13,660
But he looked like
I had done something to him.
769
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:16,660
And I remember being upset,
770
00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:18,330
being angry at this,
771
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:20,660
I called him,
self-entitled person
772
00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:21,500
who's drinking and driving.
773
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:25,500
So I went ahead
and I called LAPD.
774
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:27,910
So they took all my information.
775
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,370
She was kind of cynical,
776
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:30,660
like, "Well,
you're not hurt, are you?"
777
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:32,910
"No, I'm not hurt."
"Did he hurt anyone?" "No."
778
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,040
She didn't really want to
779
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,040
talk to me about O.J.
780
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,370
or what could have happened.
781
00:35:39,290 --> 00:35:41,200
PETROCELLI:
Now, did you ever learn
that Nicole
782
00:35:41,330 --> 00:35:44,080
was seeing Marcus again in 1994?
783
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,080
-No.
-In about March, April
784
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,160
-or May or June?
-No.
785
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,000
-Did anybody tell you that?
-No.
786
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,040
Did anybody tell you
that they saw his car
787
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,500
at Nicole's place at Bundy?
788
00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:56,830
No.
789
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:58,450
The night of this tragedy,
790
00:35:58,540 --> 00:36:01,660
when Nicole was killed,
by coincidence,
791
00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:03,250
Marcus Allen and his wife
792
00:36:03,330 --> 00:36:06,620
were to travel, I think,
to the Bahamas
793
00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:09,750
or someplace for a golf
tournament that he was in.
794
00:36:09,830 --> 00:36:11,830
Later on, it became known that
795
00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:14,330
Marcus had missed the flight.
796
00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:17,950
His wife had gone...
797
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,160
alone, and he had
taken the next flight.
798
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,830
Robert Kardashian told me
that he believed that
799
00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:27,080
O.J. went to see Nicole.
800
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,910
O.J. may have
seen Marcus Allen's car
801
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,830
driving away
at the end of the alley.
802
00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:38,870
If Kardashian's theory
is correct,
803
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:41,370
then you can see why O.J.
804
00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:42,910
would have really flipped out.
805
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,410
You have to also understand
806
00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:46,830
that, to this day, Marcus Allen
807
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:48,830
has never said a word about O..
808
00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:56,250
CLARK:
All right,
you indicated that you
809
00:36:56,330 --> 00:36:58,410
placed a phone call
to Rachel Ferrara
810
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,910
-at about 10:10 p.m.
-Yes.
811
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,450
And that during that phone call,
you were seated on the bed
812
00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:05,040
with your back up
against that headboard?
813
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,410
Yes.
814
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:07,750
During that phone call, sir,
815
00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:09,790
did something unusual occur?
816
00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:11,290
-Yes.
-And what was that?
817
00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:14,950
Around the 10:40-ish,
10:45 hour, I'm on the phone
818
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,950
with a woman named Rachel.
819
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:18,330
You know, we were just, uh,
820
00:37:18,450 --> 00:37:20,330
chatting, and then these
821
00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:22,830
unusual thumps happened.
822
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:24,120
But they weren't like thu...
823
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,500
Like, the word "thumps"
makes it sound,
824
00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:28,830
you know, lesser than it is.
825
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:30,370
But it was, you know,
826
00:37:30,450 --> 00:37:32,370
it was startling enough to where
827
00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:33,910
he was like, "Oh, my God,
was there an earthquake?"
828
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,500
And I was like, "No."
829
00:37:35,580 --> 00:37:38,120
KATO: The picture on my wall
is a picture
830
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,330
that moved like this.
831
00:37:39,370 --> 00:37:40,910
And, you know, I said
832
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,160
there were the three thumps,
833
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,950
but it was like
these noises that were...
834
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,000
that were
loud enough to move it.
835
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,950
-It was, uh...
-(banging)
836
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,950
...like that.
837
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,500
So, I thought, oh,
838
00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:51,540
logically, it's California.
839
00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:52,750
I thought there
was an earthquake.
840
00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:57,660
I'm still looking in
through the gates there,
841
00:37:57,700 --> 00:37:59,290
and then that's
when I start to--
842
00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:03,500
I notice a dark figure
coming from
843
00:38:03,580 --> 00:38:05,580
the garage side of the house,
844
00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:08,370
moving, you know, very quickly
845
00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:11,000
and heading towards
the front of the door.
846
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,410
I figure, okay, well,
you know, that's him.
Somebody's here.
847
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:17,410
So I get back out
and I ring the intercom again.
848
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:19,250
It's ringing.
It's ringing for a little bit.
849
00:38:19,330 --> 00:38:20,370
You know, for a little while.
850
00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:22,160
It rings, rings, ring.
851
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,000
And he finally
picks up the intercom
852
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,370
and he says, "Hey, man.
853
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:27,160
"Hey, hey, sorry, I just
got out of the shower.
854
00:38:27,250 --> 00:38:28,830
I'll be down in a minute."
855
00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:29,790
I'm like, "Okay."
856
00:38:31,330 --> 00:38:33,040
(line ringing)
857
00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:37,370
I kept hearing...
I could hear in the distance
858
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,200
this ringing, ringing, ringing,
859
00:38:39,290 --> 00:38:40,290
going over and over.
860
00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:42,660
And, uh, it was the house phone,
861
00:38:42,750 --> 00:38:44,870
you could hear
from the intercom,
862
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,250
and that's the limo driver.
863
00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:48,000
That time, when I go to
hang up the intercom,
864
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,330
I see another person come out
865
00:38:49,450 --> 00:38:51,290
from around
the back of the house,
866
00:38:51,370 --> 00:38:53,950
who I know now is Kato.
867
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,790
He goes, "Oh, I'm here to
pick up O.J." or something.
868
00:38:55,870 --> 00:38:57,700
And I was like, "Hey,
did we have an earthquake?"
869
00:38:57,790 --> 00:39:00,410
I'm like, "No,
I didn't feel anything.
870
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:02,160
What, we had an earthquake?"
871
00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:03,370
And he's like, "Are you sure?"
872
00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:04,540
And I said,
"No, I didn't feel anything."
873
00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:06,580
Then I saw luggage out in front
874
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:09,200
and, uh, I helped
the limo driver.
875
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,000
And then O.J. was outside.
876
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,870
He just appeared outside.
877
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:15,620
I couldn't tell
if he showered or not.
878
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:18,580
I mean, I did remember seeing
beads of sweat on him.
879
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:21,040
And I was gonna run to this bag
880
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,830
that was about 20 yards away.
881
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:25,200
And O.J. literally
jumped out and said,
882
00:39:25,290 --> 00:39:27,200
"No, no, no.
That's okay, I'll get that bag.
883
00:39:27,290 --> 00:39:28,910
Don't, don't touch that bag.
I'll get it."
884
00:39:31,450 --> 00:39:32,750
ALAN:
You know,
and I thought it was odd.
885
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:34,080
You know, I thought
it was like,
886
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,500
"That's kind of weird.
887
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:37,410
Why is he
so protective of that bag?"
888
00:39:39,830 --> 00:39:41,750
That's the bag that
no one's ever found.
889
00:39:42,830 --> 00:39:45,620
Kato is still
talking about an earthquake.
890
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:49,120
So I remember O.J. telling Kato,
891
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,500
"You go around that way,"
892
00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:51,830
meaning around the garage,
893
00:39:51,870 --> 00:39:54,160
"and I'll go
back around the other way,
894
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,500
and we'll see if
anything's back there."
895
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:03,370
Kato starts to go
around the garage, and...
896
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:06,450
O.J. starts to
follow right behind him.
897
00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:08,000
And I was like,
you know, that's kind of weird.
898
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,500
He just said he was
gonna go the other way.
899
00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:12,750
So I start to follow O.J.
900
00:40:14,540 --> 00:40:15,370
As we start to go around
901
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:16,750
the garage, he turns around,
902
00:40:16,830 --> 00:40:18,450
he sees that I'm following him.
903
00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:20,830
And at that point, he says,
"Oh, we got to go."
904
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,120
You know? "We're late.
We got to get out of here."
905
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,000
And I knew we were kind
of pressed on time and whatnot.
906
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,250
It was getting
a little bit late. And I said,
907
00:40:27,330 --> 00:40:28,700
"Okay, let's--
Yeah, we got to go."
908
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,120
When I arrived at Bundy,
the street was blocked off.
909
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,370
The officers, before I arrived,
had been inside the home
910
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:40,950
and cleared the home
911
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,250
and had found
two children upstairs,
912
00:40:44,370 --> 00:40:46,540
sound asleep,
that they had to wake up.
913
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:51,000
And they'd since
transported both of the kids,
914
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,750
uh, to West L.A. Station.
915
00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:56,500
When I looked at the bodies,
I could see Nicole
916
00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:58,620
had been severely slashed.
917
00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:02,120
Her neck-- I observed
the vertebrae in the back.
918
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,000
She'd been nearly decapitated.
919
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,330
Goldman-- numerous
cutting stab wounds.
920
00:41:08,370 --> 00:41:10,160
There'd obviously been,
in my mind,
921
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,540
a struggle of some type.
922
00:41:11,660 --> 00:41:14,500
The front door was wide open.
923
00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:16,450
If you look at
the footwear impressions,
924
00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:18,200
they go up the stairs
925
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,540
and to a point
where they're just
926
00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:22,660
beyond the door and they stop.
927
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:26,660
And whoever left those
impressions turns around
928
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:28,790
and looks back
towards the bodies,
929
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:30,660
and then turns around
the other way
930
00:41:30,750 --> 00:41:33,290
and continues walking
towards the rear.
931
00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:35,950
Candles lit downstairs.
932
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,790
We go upstairs.
933
00:41:37,870 --> 00:41:41,370
There's a bathtub,
a large tub with drawn water.
934
00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:43,910
There's candles
all the way around.
935
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,500
Is this a romantic setup
936
00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:48,250
because her boyfriend came over?
937
00:41:48,330 --> 00:41:49,700
No, not necessarily.
938
00:41:49,830 --> 00:41:51,870
You can't jump
to that conclusion.
939
00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:54,660
Kitchen was...
no, there were no dirty dishes.
940
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:56,450
I've got a knife,
a butcher knife.
941
00:41:56,540 --> 00:41:58,290
There's no trace on there.
942
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:59,580
There's no fingerprints
on there.
943
00:41:59,660 --> 00:42:00,750
There's no nothing.
944
00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:09,370
Just prior to the murders--
945
00:42:09,450 --> 00:42:11,750
this is about ten,
ten days, I think--
946
00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:14,540
Nicole tells her mom Juditha
947
00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:18,500
that she is missing keys
to her home at Bundy,
948
00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:22,040
the front door and the gate.
949
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,450
And that she is concerned that
950
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:25,700
O.J. may have taken them
951
00:42:25,830 --> 00:42:27,750
the last time
he was there to see the kids.
952
00:42:27,830 --> 00:42:29,410
I think there's a possibility,
953
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,080
as evidenced,
that she was concerned
954
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,950
for her safety because
955
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,830
she knew that he was
stalking her and following her.
956
00:42:40,910 --> 00:42:42,200
We're gonna need
some answers here.
957
00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:43,790
What's going on
with all of this?
958
00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:50,910
DOMINIQUE:
She was gone.
959
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,580
DENISE:
I said, "Oh, my God,
960
00:42:52,660 --> 00:42:53,910
he finally did it."
961
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,830
DOMINIQUE:
O.J. stopped me
962
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:57,750
and he says,
"You have to come with me
963
00:42:57,830 --> 00:42:58,870
to go see Nicole."
964
00:42:58,950 --> 00:43:00,500
D'ANNE:
Dita turned to him
965
00:43:00,580 --> 00:43:02,450
and said, "Did you do this?"
966
00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:05,000
I was like,
"He's gonna tell her he did it."
967
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,540
(sirens wailing)
968
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,450
ROBIN:
He's not going
to kill O.J. Simpson.
969
00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:13,830
It's much easier
to kill other people.
970
00:43:13,870 --> 00:43:16,790
(woman speaking Spanish)
971
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:19,830
-DENISE: It was madness.
-(honks horn)
972
00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:22,330
Who's talking to the media?
973
00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:24,250
Who's going to say something?
974
00:43:24,370 --> 00:43:26,160
I totally believe in
975
00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:27,370
my friend's innocence.
976
00:43:27,450 --> 00:43:29,080
She was just another girl
977
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,160
and he was O.J.
978
00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:32,500
STEVENS:
We opened the safe
deposit box
979
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:34,830
and she had a diary
that lists abuse.
980
00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:36,950
DOMINIQUE:
They're just being hidden.
981
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,160
ROBERTSON:
We, the jury,
in the above entitled action
982
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:41,700
find the defendant not guilty
of the crime of murder.
983
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,620
-(cheering)
-DENISE: How could one person
984
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:45,200
(bleep) up
so many people's lives?
985
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:47,500
The fact that he is
a convicted wife batterer
986
00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:50,290
means that he may present a rik
of harm to these children.
987
00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:51,660
DENISE:
He took 'em away.
988
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:55,330
INTERVIEWER: Were you aware
of events in Florida?
989
00:43:55,410 --> 00:43:58,750
There was close to
17 police reports we found.
990
00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:03,160
O.J. Simpson did receive MDMA,
um, and other narcotics.
991
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,870
He was a user.
992
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DOMINIQUE:
Oh, my God.
993
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Who was there to protect them?
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DOYNE: How do these children
grow up to be normal
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if the person that murdered
their mother
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is caring for them?
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00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:18,750
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