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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,370 --> 00:00:06,660 DENISE: I was always protecting Nicole. 2 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:08,950 Even when we were young. 3 00:00:10,290 --> 00:00:13,500 He had this obsession about her. 4 00:00:13,580 --> 00:00:16,790 I felt like she was just being molded by him. 5 00:00:16,870 --> 00:00:19,660 She did tell me that he has a bad temper. 6 00:00:20,830 --> 00:00:22,700 DENISE: We're having lunch. There was a gay couple 7 00:00:22,830 --> 00:00:25,080 that was sitting at the table. 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,830 One of the guys kissed Justin on the forehead. 9 00:00:27,870 --> 00:00:29,250 All hell broke loose. 10 00:00:29,330 --> 00:00:31,000 He was going crazy. 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,700 He had her up against the wall, hurting her 12 00:00:33,790 --> 00:00:35,500 because of this incident. 13 00:00:35,540 --> 00:00:37,290 D'ANNE: We were having our New Year's Eve party 14 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:38,750 and we got a telephone call. 15 00:00:38,830 --> 00:00:41,790 It was Nicole, and she said, "We got to drinking. 16 00:00:41,870 --> 00:00:43,410 We're just going to stay here." 17 00:00:43,500 --> 00:00:45,870 And then we, of course, all woke up 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,870 with news that Nicole 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,620 was at the police station 20 00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:52,080 and he had hit her. 21 00:00:53,950 --> 00:00:55,200 OPERATOR: 911 emergency. 22 00:00:55,330 --> 00:00:57,500 -(Nicole screaming) -Hello? 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,950 (sniffles) 24 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,700 PETROCELLI: Mr. Cowlings, I'm going to ask you to look at... 25 00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:08,040 ...this picture. It's been previously marked 26 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,160 as exhibit number 45. 27 00:01:12,830 --> 00:01:14,750 Ask if you... 28 00:01:14,830 --> 00:01:17,040 recognize that picture. 29 00:01:22,290 --> 00:01:23,330 Yes. 30 00:01:23,410 --> 00:01:25,790 And who do you recognize that to be? 31 00:01:28,660 --> 00:01:30,500 (inhales deeply) Nicole. 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,370 And does that appear to be the way that Nicole looked 33 00:01:36,450 --> 00:01:38,410 when you went over there that early morning time 34 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:40,000 to Rockingham... 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Hey, man, can you give me a break? (exhales) 36 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,120 ♪ 37 00:02:16,450 --> 00:02:18,950 PETROCELLI: Had you seen Nicole New Year's Eve? 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,290 -Yes, I did. -And where did you see her? 39 00:02:21,370 --> 00:02:25,160 Uh, we were all at a party for New Year's Eve. 40 00:02:25,290 --> 00:02:28,370 -And you saw Mr. Simpson that night also? -Yes. 41 00:02:28,450 --> 00:02:30,750 I don't know if I left before them 42 00:02:30,830 --> 00:02:32,500 or they left before me. 43 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,330 ...operator 461. 44 00:02:35,410 --> 00:02:37,450 (indistinct radio chatter) 45 00:02:50,910 --> 00:02:53,370 JOHN EDWARDS: This is a 911, uh, radio call. 46 00:02:53,370 --> 00:02:56,000 According to the comments, the operator could overhear 47 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,790 the woman being beaten on the phone. 48 00:02:57,870 --> 00:02:59,330 DARDEN: So you and your partner 49 00:02:59,370 --> 00:03:01,500 -proceeded to that address? -Yes. 50 00:03:01,580 --> 00:03:04,000 It was a locked security gate 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,540 with a little call box out front 52 00:03:06,620 --> 00:03:08,370 -with a button. -(intercom buzzes) 53 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,290 -Whoa. -NICOLE: Whoa! 54 00:03:12,370 --> 00:03:13,830 She said she was frightened you were going to kill her. 55 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:16,000 -No, she didn't say that. -She did say it on one of the times. 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,870 -No, she did not say that. -MAN: She said, "He's gonna kill me." 57 00:03:17,950 --> 00:03:19,330 No, she-she did not say that. 58 00:03:19,410 --> 00:03:21,750 She collapsed and-and started yelling, 59 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:23,660 "He's gonna kill me, he's gonna kill me." 60 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:25,750 She had a, uh... 61 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:29,250 cut approximately one inch, I believe, 62 00:03:29,330 --> 00:03:32,330 on her left, uh, upper lip. 63 00:03:32,370 --> 00:03:35,950 She had a swollen, uh... 64 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,250 right forehead. 65 00:03:38,330 --> 00:03:41,120 And her, I believe her left eye 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 or right eye was starting to blacken 67 00:03:43,250 --> 00:03:46,580 and she had a hand imprint on her throat, 68 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:49,370 on the, uh, left side of her throat. 69 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:52,330 He came out and yelled at the police saying, 70 00:03:52,410 --> 00:03:54,700 "You guys have been out here so many times 71 00:03:54,700 --> 00:03:56,910 "and you never arrested me before. 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,040 Now you're gonna arrest me?" 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,080 But they just took her away. 74 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,080 I don't know exactly what happened then. 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,120 -Did you take her to West L.A. station? -Yes, I did. 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,370 Did you attempt to photograph her injuries? 77 00:04:08,450 --> 00:04:10,330 EDWARDS: I photographed her injuries myself. 78 00:04:10,370 --> 00:04:13,450 Used a Polaroid 600, I believe. 79 00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:18,040 I-I took Nicole home after the photographs. 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,870 I was, uh... 81 00:04:20,950 --> 00:04:23,040 woken up 82 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,830 by a phone call, um... 83 00:04:26,950 --> 00:04:29,830 from Michelle. The maid. 84 00:04:29,910 --> 00:04:32,790 -PETROCELLI: S-Simpsons' housekeeper? -Right, yes. 85 00:04:32,870 --> 00:04:35,200 I don't know if she said something about to come up there 86 00:04:35,290 --> 00:04:37,830 to, um, something was going on. 87 00:04:37,870 --> 00:04:39,700 Uh, I don't know if she said O.J. and Nicole 88 00:04:39,700 --> 00:04:41,250 are fighting or something like that. 89 00:04:41,330 --> 00:04:43,000 I walked in, I came into the kitchen. 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,290 Nicole was-was by the sink 91 00:04:45,370 --> 00:04:47,250 and O.J. was standing. 92 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:49,620 And I said, "What are you doing?" 93 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:51,790 And he said, "Nicole, can I talk to you?" 94 00:04:51,870 --> 00:04:55,870 And she picked up the phone to call the cops again. 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,330 He turned around and walked back into the shadows. 96 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,830 I walked over to Nicole, um... 97 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:05,750 I embraced her. 98 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:07,870 She said, "I want to just be left alone, AC." 99 00:05:07,870 --> 00:05:10,080 I said, "Well, if you need me, you call me." 100 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,330 And I left. 101 00:05:11,450 --> 00:05:13,660 DENISE: Nicole called me 102 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:16,660 a day after the abuse, after what happened to her. 103 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,750 And she called me up and she says, 104 00:05:18,830 --> 00:05:20,500 "Denise," she goes, "I need you to come up here. 105 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:22,830 I need you to take pictures of my-- of me." 106 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:25,410 And she said, "We had, we had a fight." 107 00:05:25,540 --> 00:05:28,040 And I said, and when I saw her, I said, "Oh, my God." 108 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,000 I said, "What happened?" 109 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,080 I said, "Why are you with him? 110 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,000 What are you doing?" 111 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,500 And so I ended up taking the pictures of her, her face. 112 00:05:37,580 --> 00:05:42,200 And underneath her arm where it was a big bruise. 113 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:45,410 At the time, I had no idea where those pictures ended up. 114 00:05:46,540 --> 00:05:48,450 We, of course, all woke up 115 00:05:48,580 --> 00:05:51,620 to New Year's Day with... 116 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:55,750 news that Nicole was at the police station. 117 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:58,830 And, uh, he had... 118 00:05:58,910 --> 00:06:00,700 hit her. 119 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,950 We just couldn't believe it. 120 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,910 That was really the first time 121 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,160 that I was really clueing in that there was something 122 00:06:10,290 --> 00:06:13,160 very traumatic going on. 123 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:15,950 So I called Dita. 124 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,120 And she said, "Well, you know how she can have a sharp mouth?" 125 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,120 And I'm thinking, huh? 126 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,450 You can have a sharp mouth and nobody's hitting you. 127 00:06:25,540 --> 00:06:28,830 She didn't keep going and harping on... on the situation. 128 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:32,410 I mean, it was done and that was the end of it. 129 00:06:32,540 --> 00:06:34,620 And then Nicole, "I can handle it." 130 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:36,910 -DENISE: She can handle it. -That's the type of person she was. 131 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,370 "I can handle it." 132 00:06:38,450 --> 00:06:41,580 I would say to Judi, "You know, maybe Nicole 133 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:44,500 should separate for a while or some... some such thing." 134 00:06:44,580 --> 00:06:47,370 And Judi would say, "Well, he's gone so much. 135 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:50,950 "Don't jeopardize the welfare of your children 136 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,200 because he has episodes 137 00:06:54,290 --> 00:06:56,000 of bad behavior." 138 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,120 But, you know, we all have 139 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,830 our line in the sand. 140 00:07:00,910 --> 00:07:05,500 She would feel that, well, Nicole could avoid him 141 00:07:05,580 --> 00:07:08,120 and go about her own life, 142 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,000 but still have her family intact. 143 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,580 I-I feel that Judi, 144 00:07:13,660 --> 00:07:16,870 it was... her motives were always pure. 145 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:19,950 They were always good and unselfish. 146 00:07:19,950 --> 00:07:22,080 But I feel that 147 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,500 the cost of staying 148 00:07:24,580 --> 00:07:27,200 with O.J. Simpson was too great 149 00:07:27,290 --> 00:07:28,950 for Nicole. 150 00:07:30,370 --> 00:07:33,330 In this case, let me say up front 151 00:07:33,370 --> 00:07:36,290 that Mr. Simpson is not proud at all 152 00:07:36,370 --> 00:07:38,660 of the fact that he and his wife 153 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:40,700 got into an altercation 154 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:44,000 and she was stuck-- struck on January 1, 1989. 155 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,290 He's not proud of that. In fact, 156 00:07:46,370 --> 00:07:48,870 in the course of this evidence, you're going to see perhaps 157 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:52,910 three letters that he wrote apologizing to his wife. 158 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:00,000 From that day forward 159 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,750 to the present date, there's no evidence 160 00:08:02,870 --> 00:08:05,500 that O.J. Simpson ever struck his wife again. 161 00:08:05,620 --> 00:08:08,370 I think she wanted everything to work so bad. 162 00:08:08,450 --> 00:08:10,910 And I think that's why she continued to keep 163 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,500 getting back together with O.J., because I think she hoped 164 00:08:14,580 --> 00:08:17,830 that it would be what she expected it to be. 165 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:19,660 DENISE: She wanted to keep her family together. 166 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:21,370 And then it got to a point where, 167 00:08:21,370 --> 00:08:22,660 okay, it's enough is enough already. 168 00:08:22,700 --> 00:08:26,080 "I have to go," and that was after seven years. 169 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,000 (laughs) Yeah! 170 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,700 Nicole called me and asked me if I wanted to go to lunch. 171 00:08:35,790 --> 00:08:38,830 And that's when she told me 172 00:08:38,910 --> 00:08:42,330 that she is going to leave O.J. 173 00:08:42,450 --> 00:08:44,660 She said, "I'm n-- I can't... 174 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:47,000 and I won't live like that anymore." 175 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:51,450 And she said, "And I don't want my kids 176 00:08:51,540 --> 00:08:53,500 "to... 177 00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:55,870 "to be around that. 178 00:08:55,950 --> 00:08:58,200 "I want them to have really healthy, 179 00:08:58,290 --> 00:09:00,660 normal lives and be happy." 180 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:02,660 And she said, "And I'm not happy, 181 00:09:02,750 --> 00:09:05,910 and so I don't want them to feel it." 182 00:09:06,910 --> 00:09:10,370 She loved those kids and... 183 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:13,040 they were her whole life. 184 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,250 She said, "I just want to, I need to get away. 185 00:09:15,330 --> 00:09:18,500 "I need to get out of the house. 186 00:09:18,580 --> 00:09:21,410 And I want you to tell him." 187 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:23,580 (laughing) 188 00:09:25,950 --> 00:09:28,410 I was in real estate at that time. 189 00:09:28,540 --> 00:09:30,580 She wanted me to find her 190 00:09:30,660 --> 00:09:33,160 a-a lease. 191 00:09:33,250 --> 00:09:35,950 And she wanted me to tell O.J. 192 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,160 that she wanted out of the house. 193 00:09:39,790 --> 00:09:42,000 I went to the Rockingham house 194 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,660 and... sat down with her and O.J., 195 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:49,410 and I said that... 196 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:51,830 I'm going to be looking for a house 197 00:09:51,870 --> 00:09:54,160 for Nicole and the kids. 198 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,160 And he was like, "What are you talking about? 199 00:09:58,290 --> 00:10:00,660 "That's not right. It's not right from our kids. 200 00:10:00,750 --> 00:10:02,580 It's not right. You're making a mistake." 201 00:10:02,660 --> 00:10:04,500 And then he started to appeal to Nicole. 202 00:10:04,580 --> 00:10:06,660 And she said, "O.J., I'm doing it." 203 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:09,120 She stood firm. 204 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,870 And so we started looking for a house. 205 00:10:11,950 --> 00:10:13,790 And we came to this one that was 206 00:10:13,870 --> 00:10:17,370 on Gretna Green, which wasn't far, so we leased that. 207 00:10:18,330 --> 00:10:21,330 REPORTER: According to court documents, O.J. told Nicole's mother... 208 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:38,950 -Okay. Kris. -O.J.: Kris! 209 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,120 -Okay. -Yes, Kris, oh, my God. 210 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,700 -Oh, my God. -It's me. 211 00:10:42,830 --> 00:10:44,120 I'm Kris Jenner. 212 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,120 When we met, 213 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,580 I think it was a really fast friendship because 214 00:10:49,660 --> 00:10:51,950 Robert and O.J. were so close. 215 00:10:52,910 --> 00:10:54,500 One of my best memories 216 00:10:54,540 --> 00:10:56,000 of Nicole was when she would 217 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,660 climb up on the roof at Christmastime 218 00:10:57,790 --> 00:10:59,620 and do all of her own Christmas lights. 219 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:01,660 And that would just amaze me. 220 00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:03,660 And, of course, I would run home and try to do 221 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:05,660 my own Christmas lights, because I thought, well, 222 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:08,500 if she can do it, I can do it. 223 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:10,620 I think Nicole was very careful, 224 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:14,080 and she didn't just befriend everybody. 225 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,700 You know, she was really warm and amazing, 226 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:18,620 but you got to know her first, 227 00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:20,870 you know, until she really let you in. 228 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,660 But, you know, when she did, she was super loyal, 229 00:11:24,750 --> 00:11:26,830 and she was your friend for life. 230 00:11:26,870 --> 00:11:29,040 I'd known of Nicole just through Kris. 231 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,580 Immediately, she became someone that I considered family, 232 00:11:33,660 --> 00:11:34,870 considered a sister. 233 00:11:34,950 --> 00:11:36,870 If there was ever a moment 234 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 that, you know, you needed her for anything, 235 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,370 she would drop whatever she had to come to your rescue. 236 00:11:42,450 --> 00:11:45,830 I think ultimately, what really brought us together-- 237 00:11:45,870 --> 00:11:47,950 and some of the other people in her life-- 238 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,370 was that she was experiencing independence for the first time 239 00:11:52,370 --> 00:11:54,120 in her adult life, ever. 240 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,370 Now Nicole had a new group of friends 241 00:11:56,500 --> 00:11:58,080 that were, you know, that we... 242 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,330 we're all gonna go out and have fun. 243 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,910 You know, we were all in our 30s and, 244 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,080 you know, she had a Ferrari. 245 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,950 (laughs) 246 00:12:09,580 --> 00:12:10,700 KRIS: "Late for a date." 247 00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:12,950 That's her license plate. 248 00:12:12,950 --> 00:12:14,000 Yep. 249 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,580 I think she just had a lot going on 250 00:12:15,660 --> 00:12:16,830 and was trying to get everywhere-- 251 00:12:16,910 --> 00:12:19,290 but it was just a cute kind of nod 252 00:12:19,370 --> 00:12:21,250 to "Might be a little late." 253 00:12:21,330 --> 00:12:23,830 (chuckles) 254 00:12:23,870 --> 00:12:25,950 ROBIN: She started to get closer with Faye, 255 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,160 and I wasn't... I didn't really hang out with them as much. 256 00:12:29,250 --> 00:12:31,830 Uh, Faye a-and I didn't have as much in common, 257 00:12:31,870 --> 00:12:33,790 and we weren't, you know... 258 00:12:33,870 --> 00:12:38,290 I don't know, we just didn't really mesh as friends. 259 00:12:38,290 --> 00:12:40,620 Perhaps no one was more stunned when the verdicts were read 260 00:12:40,750 --> 00:12:42,330 than Nicole's best friend... 261 00:12:42,450 --> 00:12:44,540 TV HOST: Faye Resnick. She was the first 262 00:12:44,620 --> 00:12:46,830 to tell the truth about O.J. 263 00:12:46,910 --> 00:12:48,330 FAYE: O.J. knows he's guilty. 264 00:12:48,370 --> 00:12:51,000 He will always be ashamed of what he's done. 265 00:12:53,700 --> 00:12:55,580 I'm Faye Resnick. 266 00:12:55,700 --> 00:12:58,000 I am one of Nicole's very best friends-- 267 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,540 or was one of Nicole's very best friends. 268 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:04,540 Kris said she wanted to introduce me 269 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:06,080 to her girlfriend Nicole. 270 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,750 She said, "You guys are gonna get along great." 271 00:13:07,830 --> 00:13:10,200 You meet Nicole, and it was just, 272 00:13:10,330 --> 00:13:12,080 she was so inviting and so lovely 273 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,410 and just so airy and so natura. 274 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:17,910 She came down in a towel because she was late. 275 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,160 "Sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. I'll-I'll be right there." 276 00:13:20,250 --> 00:13:22,700 And, you know, just with that beautiful blond hair 277 00:13:22,790 --> 00:13:24,580 that she just, like... (exhales sharply) 278 00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:26,750 The three of us, Nicole, Kris and I, 279 00:13:26,830 --> 00:13:28,870 it was the perfect storm. 280 00:13:30,370 --> 00:13:33,080 I was telling her about Marcus Allen's fiancée Kathryn. 281 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,250 I was hosting her wedding, and Nicole was crying, 282 00:13:35,370 --> 00:13:36,500 and she said 283 00:13:36,540 --> 00:13:38,160 Marcus was not my friend. 284 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,620 And I didn't quite understand what she was saying. 285 00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:42,370 Then it kind of dawned on me. I said, "Did something happen 286 00:13:42,450 --> 00:13:43,830 with you and Marcus?" 287 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:46,160 And she says, "Yes," and I said, "Check. 288 00:13:46,250 --> 00:13:49,040 Can I have the check, please?" (chuckles) 289 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,370 Marcus was O.J.'s best friend. 290 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:52,830 -Besides A.C. -ROBIN: They were friends, 291 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:55,040 but they were also competitive with each other. 292 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,450 -MARCUS: They're bringing her right away. -He showed me her, 293 00:13:57,540 --> 00:13:59,250 -but I mean, I really didn't see... -She's, like, so incredible. 294 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:01,000 She had the towel over her face. 295 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,000 He pulled it back, she looked up at everyone 296 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,330 to-- as to say hello, you know, like O.J. would do. 297 00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:06,700 -(laughs): You know? -ROBIN: And he was sort of 298 00:14:06,790 --> 00:14:10,200 the new, improved O.J. Simpson. 299 00:14:10,290 --> 00:14:12,040 You know, he also won a Heisman, 300 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,620 he was, you know, the faster, 301 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:17,660 better O.J., younger. 302 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:20,500 It was like one of those relationships that turned from, 303 00:14:20,540 --> 00:14:24,830 he was comforting her, you know, through her divorce. 304 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:27,290 And I think it was just like 305 00:14:27,370 --> 00:14:30,500 a n-- a natural thing that shouldn't have happened. 306 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,160 ROBIN: She didn't admit it to me, 307 00:14:41,250 --> 00:14:43,370 but I showed up at Gretna Green, 308 00:14:43,370 --> 00:14:44,370 and, you know... 309 00:14:44,450 --> 00:14:45,700 He's sitting on the couch, 310 00:14:45,830 --> 00:14:48,580 and she's sitting on the-the arm of the couch, 311 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:50,580 and she's got his-- her leg draped 312 00:14:50,660 --> 00:14:52,950 over his leg, and she's like... 313 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,120 I'm like, "This is," you know, "that's-that's not a buddy." 314 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,000 I mean, I don't, I don't treat my buddies like that, but... 315 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,950 She didn't really want anyone to know that 316 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,330 they were carrying on this, you know, affair. 317 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,330 FAYE: I-I really... 318 00:15:07,410 --> 00:15:10,580 it was very hard... 319 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:13,870 to understand... 320 00:15:15,870 --> 00:15:19,790 ...why she would go down that road. 321 00:15:19,870 --> 00:15:24,950 She felt that he had taken so much from her 322 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,040 that she didn't feel like she owed him anything. 323 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,410 I was nervous about it. 324 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:32,450 The thought of her being with anybody else 325 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:35,000 did not do well with him. 326 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,040 PETROCELLI: And what did you say to Marcus? 327 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,000 I told him, uh, "Marcus, uh, do me a favor 328 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 "and ease up on Nicole, 'cause whatever's happening 329 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,080 "with you guys is really screwing her up, 330 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,580 'cause she's, like, going bonkers." 331 00:15:46,660 --> 00:15:49,080 Did it stop then? 332 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,540 -To your knowledge? -I assume so. To my knowledge, yes. 333 00:15:50,540 --> 00:15:52,700 What did Marcus say to you when you suggested 334 00:15:52,790 --> 00:15:54,290 that he back off? 335 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:56,290 Uh, he was in a room with people, he said nothing, 336 00:15:56,370 --> 00:15:58,500 but the next week, he-- I was taking a nap, 337 00:15:58,580 --> 00:16:02,040 and he walked into my bedroom and apologized. 338 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,370 When you learned this, were you surprised to hear this? 339 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:05,790 Yes. 340 00:16:05,870 --> 00:16:07,160 Were you upset about it? 341 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,250 Mm, probably, yes. 342 00:16:09,330 --> 00:16:11,830 NEWS REPORTER: Nancy Ney was answering the hotline 343 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:13,330 at a battered woman's shelter 344 00:16:13,370 --> 00:16:15,910 five days before Nicole Brown Simpson's murder 345 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,120 when she received a call from a woman 346 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,200 identifying herself only as "Nicole." 347 00:16:21,290 --> 00:16:24,160 The caller said her famous ex-husband had beaten her, 348 00:16:24,290 --> 00:16:27,330 was stalking her and had told her a couple of times 349 00:16:27,450 --> 00:16:31,290 if he ever caught her with another man, he would kill her. 350 00:16:37,410 --> 00:16:39,250 Arguably the biggest celebrity right now 351 00:16:39,330 --> 00:16:41,080 at the O.J. Simpson trial, Brian "Kato" Kaelin. 352 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,830 CLARK: You a little bit nervous today? 353 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:45,080 -Feel great. -(laughter) 354 00:16:46,660 --> 00:16:47,790 Little nervous. 355 00:16:47,870 --> 00:16:50,080 -(laughter) -(cup clatters) 356 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,160 KIGHTLINGER: Mr. Kaelin, are you nervous? 357 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,700 A little, yes. 358 00:16:53,790 --> 00:16:56,080 CLARK: Did you think it might be advantageous to you 359 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,870 to stay with the defendant and get to know him 360 00:16:57,950 --> 00:16:59,160 for your acting career? 361 00:16:59,290 --> 00:17:01,330 I don't think we're going for the same parts. 362 00:17:01,410 --> 00:17:03,750 -Really. I-I don't... -(laughter) 363 00:17:03,830 --> 00:17:05,660 I don't... 364 00:17:07,540 --> 00:17:09,250 I'm an okay guy, and I think I'm the guy next door 365 00:17:09,330 --> 00:17:11,660 and I love all people and... 366 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:13,870 -You're just a nice guy who wants to be loved? -Yeah. 367 00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:15,500 That's true. 368 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,330 Hi, everybody, I'm Brian "Kato" Kaelin. 369 00:17:20,370 --> 00:17:22,660 Nicole was in Aspen with Faye Resnick, 370 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:25,370 and these are people I didn't know at all at the time. 371 00:17:25,450 --> 00:17:27,000 I'm just there with my buddy Grant. 372 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,080 Nicole's eyes locked with Grant's 373 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,040 'cause they knew each other from celebrity events. 374 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,410 At the time, Nicole was divorced, 375 00:17:32,540 --> 00:17:34,330 and they connected. 376 00:17:34,410 --> 00:17:38,330 Nicole and Grant exchange numbers and they start dating. 377 00:17:38,370 --> 00:17:41,160 It was like at least a month of seeing each other. 378 00:17:41,290 --> 00:17:42,830 And then she had a party. 379 00:17:42,910 --> 00:17:44,200 And then I saw the guesthouse, 380 00:17:44,290 --> 00:17:46,250 and then I said, "Who lives in this guesthouse?" 381 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,620 FAYE: It actually worked out pretty well, 382 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:54,660 because she needed somebody to pay part of the rent. 383 00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:57,080 She was on her own, which was great and she was happy, 384 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,410 but it was nice having Kato in the back. 385 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:02,370 The times that O.J. would come over to Gretna Green, 386 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:04,160 there were times when you would think they were 387 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:06,500 so much in love, like, they're a great couple. 388 00:18:06,540 --> 00:18:09,200 And then there could be a time when they would, 389 00:18:09,290 --> 00:18:11,000 I-I think they weren't talking. 390 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,660 And I would say, "W-- uh, 391 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:14,660 are you doing something with O.J.?" and she would say, 392 00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:16,330 "No, no, we're not seeing each other this week," 393 00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:17,870 and-- uh, but I didn't know why. 394 00:18:17,950 --> 00:18:19,250 You just, you could tell 395 00:18:19,330 --> 00:18:21,700 there was just something that went wrong. 396 00:18:21,790 --> 00:18:24,250 When an argument was happening or was brewing, 397 00:18:24,330 --> 00:18:25,830 I could sense it. 398 00:18:25,950 --> 00:18:27,000 The kids always would, basically, 399 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,040 come to my room, sometimes. 400 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,200 If they came to my room, I thought something 401 00:18:30,290 --> 00:18:31,790 was brewing inside. 402 00:18:31,870 --> 00:18:34,200 FAYE: O.J., he was 403 00:18:34,330 --> 00:18:36,620 kind of spying on her a lot. 404 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:41,870 Because he was realizing that she was becoming happy. 405 00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:44,330 (inhales) And... 406 00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:49,870 ...he was, like, stalking, 407 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,000 hiding in the bushes. 408 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,450 Actually in the bushes. 409 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,330 "Be careful what you say," you know, 410 00:18:58,410 --> 00:19:00,000 "he's-- could be right next to us." 411 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,250 You know, "I saw him last night in the bush." 412 00:19:02,370 --> 00:19:04,500 "I don't want to get him, you know, too upset and... 413 00:19:04,580 --> 00:19:06,450 'cause he's watching all the time." 414 00:19:08,660 --> 00:19:11,500 PETROCELLI: Any other men that, um, came into her life 415 00:19:11,540 --> 00:19:13,750 during this time period that you and she discussed? 416 00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:15,450 What do you mean by "came into her life"? 417 00:19:15,540 --> 00:19:18,370 In other words, men that she was involved with romantically 418 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:20,200 or men that she was dating? 419 00:19:20,370 --> 00:19:22,580 Probably was a few guys, I can't recall their names. 420 00:19:22,660 --> 00:19:26,250 You were, um, sort of obsessed with-with her 421 00:19:26,330 --> 00:19:28,450 having that relationship with Keith, right? 422 00:19:28,540 --> 00:19:29,950 No. 423 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,160 -Didn't bother you at all? -Her with Keith? 424 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,950 With Marcus, with any of them? Didn't bother me at all. 425 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,330 We had a couple of guy friends 426 00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:41,330 that would be with us a lot, Ron and Keith. 427 00:19:41,410 --> 00:19:44,120 Couple of times O.J. showed up, 428 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,370 and that would kind of freak her out, 429 00:19:48,450 --> 00:19:50,330 that he was there, and then we'd have to leave. 430 00:19:50,410 --> 00:19:53,540 DOMINIQUE: In October, she said that she had gotten 431 00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:57,000 in an argument with O.J. and he had banged on her door 432 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,160 and he broke something on the door. 433 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,580 I mean, and that's how she said it, 434 00:20:01,660 --> 00:20:03,330 that it was nothing more than that. 435 00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:07,290 And apparently, it was a lot more than that. 436 00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:10,500 She said that the kids broke the screen door. 437 00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:14,290 She didn't make it seem like it was that big of a deal. 438 00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:28,620 Keith and Nicole, who were seeing each other, were sitting 439 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,250 on the couch at the Gretna Green house, 440 00:20:30,330 --> 00:20:32,080 and there's a big picture window. 441 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,660 If you're hiding in the bushes 442 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:35,160 and you're looking, you can see them 443 00:20:35,250 --> 00:20:36,540 kissing on the couch, which apparently, 444 00:20:36,620 --> 00:20:38,200 that's what O.J. was doing. 445 00:20:38,370 --> 00:20:40,450 The next day, he confronted her. 446 00:20:58,870 --> 00:21:00,450 I was coming back home. 447 00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:03,540 I got to the house and... 448 00:21:03,620 --> 00:21:06,370 the doors of her house had been broken. 449 00:21:06,450 --> 00:21:08,450 And I saw that they were off, uh, the hinges, 450 00:21:08,540 --> 00:21:10,790 and hinges were broken, the doors were ready to fall. 451 00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:13,580 They were just hanging by a few of the screws. 452 00:21:13,660 --> 00:21:16,950 Nicole had said, "O.J., O.J. just broke these doors down. 453 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,540 He's insane, he's crazy." 454 00:21:18,660 --> 00:21:19,910 And I said, "You got to be kidding." 455 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,120 I don't even know what the fight was about, 456 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,950 but obviously it w-- it involved violence 457 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,660 and enough for her to call 911. 458 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:26,790 She was scared. 459 00:21:31,370 --> 00:21:35,250 I responded to a call at Nicole Simpson's home 460 00:21:35,330 --> 00:21:37,540 on Gretna Green Way in-in Brentwood. 461 00:21:39,580 --> 00:21:42,450 The officer that was there first told me 462 00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:43,910 he worked that area quite a bit, and he said 463 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,160 that was a fairly common situation 464 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,200 up there involving O.J. 465 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,330 There had been a number of calls to the house. 466 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:50,750 That's actually what jogged my memory 467 00:21:50,830 --> 00:21:53,000 of the first call with Marguerite Simpson. 468 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,790 You know, it was 20 years before, however many years. 469 00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:59,080 I originally thought maybe it was the-the same wife 470 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,660 until I saw Nicole at the door. 471 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,660 MARKS: She told me 472 00:22:05,660 --> 00:22:07,370 that there had been ongoing problems. 473 00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:08,700 And then she said, 474 00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:10,830 "I know for a fact he's gonna murder me one day." 475 00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:13,160 ♪ 476 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,410 And I-- that sort of took me by surprise. 477 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:17,040 "If you know he's gonna murder you one day, 478 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,000 "then how do we prevent that? 479 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,660 We need to keep you away from him." 480 00:22:20,750 --> 00:22:22,450 She sort of pooh-poohed it and said, 481 00:22:22,540 --> 00:22:24,750 "Well, uh, you know, we're trying to work on things, 482 00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:26,790 so, I mean, it's, you know, what we have to do." 483 00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:30,830 I think Lou is the one who said, after she died, 484 00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:35,700 that, "Well, you know, O.J. broke in... 485 00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:39,500 crashed the door and went into the house." 486 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:42,620 And the kids were terrified even, the kids were scared. 487 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:44,660 I believe the kids did come downstairs. 488 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:47,000 I think we all talked at the table, 489 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,790 and they had to be up because I think we were 490 00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:52,750 pounding the hammers and nails in the doors. 491 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:56,830 And Nicole was, at that time, after that time, 492 00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:59,660 was very peaceful in her manner of talking. 493 00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:00,830 I don't think she wanted to scare the kids, 494 00:23:00,910 --> 00:23:02,910 and that just goes back to her being a mom, 495 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,750 and the instinct sort of kicked in of what to do. 496 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:08,330 -Merry Christmas. -NICOLE: Is this Christmas? 497 00:23:08,410 --> 00:23:11,200 REPORTER: Two months later, she and Simpson were together again 498 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,330 for the children, Christmas '93. 499 00:23:13,370 --> 00:23:14,830 People were talking about 500 00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:16,870 them trying to rekindle their relationship. 501 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:20,040 And it was because of all the stalking 502 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,040 and everything that was going on 503 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,620 with him and her that she says, 504 00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:26,450 "He's never gonna leave me alone. 505 00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:29,500 "I am never gonna get rid of him. 506 00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:32,080 I may as well go back to him." 507 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,040 Those were her words to me. 508 00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:43,120 SCHAUER: This is probably 509 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,580 a few months before the murders. 510 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:48,750 I pulled him over on San Vicente Boulevard 511 00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:51,080 in Brentwood for speeding. 512 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,410 And before I could say a word, 513 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:58,200 there was a man in there who was insane, 514 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,750 acting like-like a lunatic, 515 00:23:59,870 --> 00:24:02,120 screaming at the top of his lungs. 516 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,000 His face distorted in anger, his mouth was wide open. 517 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,330 I mean, there was actually spit coming out of his mouth. 518 00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:09,580 He was so angry. 519 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:13,200 He said, "I'm effing O.J. Simpson." 520 00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:15,410 I went back to the car to write him up. 521 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:16,540 I went up to the car with the ticket 522 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:17,950 to get him to sign it, 523 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,410 and it was like somebody else had got in the car. 524 00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:25,660 It was, it was the O.J. Simpson 525 00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:27,500 that everybody knows and loves, 526 00:24:27,580 --> 00:24:29,660 and I'd never seen anybody be able 527 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:31,450 to flip a switch like that. 528 00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:32,410 He said, "I'm having a lot of problems 529 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:33,750 with my wife right now." 530 00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:35,160 He said, "You understand, right? 531 00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:36,330 You're married, you understand." 532 00:24:36,410 --> 00:24:37,950 Gave him his ticket, and that was it. 533 00:24:42,370 --> 00:24:44,370 While I'm living at Nicole's house, 534 00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:47,830 there was, um, uh, rent had changed for her, 535 00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:49,830 or something went on that she had to move. 536 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:52,500 She moved to Bundy because she got a settlement. 537 00:24:52,580 --> 00:24:55,750 She got her settlement, she was able to buy a place. 538 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:57,790 And she wanted to pay cash for it 539 00:24:57,870 --> 00:25:01,330 because she wanted to own it and not have to worry. 540 00:25:01,370 --> 00:25:05,620 And so that was her... 541 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,200 That was everything she wanted. 542 00:25:07,290 --> 00:25:09,700 She had a nest for her two children. 543 00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:11,410 When I saw it, it was beautiful, 544 00:25:11,410 --> 00:25:14,500 and there was a room inside the house. 545 00:25:14,620 --> 00:25:17,580 And I said, "I-I can't live in the same hou-- 546 00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:19,120 I don't want to be in the same house." 547 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,500 First of all, I just didn't feel right about it. 548 00:25:22,620 --> 00:25:24,660 And then I said, "No, I'll find a place." 549 00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:26,370 O.J. heard that, and at that time 550 00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:28,120 they were friends again, and said, 551 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,500 "You can move into my house." 552 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:31,750 Nicole was very upset and said I was-- 553 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:33,500 I'd been manipulated by O.J. 554 00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:35,660 FAYE: They were still dating 555 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:37,160 when they were living separately, 556 00:25:37,290 --> 00:25:38,620 which was very awkward. 557 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,040 And she knew in her heart 558 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:41,450 that she didn't want to be controlled, 559 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,370 and she knew that he was controlling her. 560 00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:45,790 As I knew her in those times, 561 00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:48,290 she became more of herself 562 00:25:48,370 --> 00:25:50,330 and had more of a voice. 563 00:25:50,410 --> 00:25:52,700 And so the more of a voice she had, 564 00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:54,750 of course, the more he would be upset. 565 00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:56,870 He had turned her into the perfect wife, 566 00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:59,000 and that's what he expected out of her. 567 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,160 I knew she had reconciled with O.J., 568 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,040 and she called me and asked me 569 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,290 if I wanted to come over and spend the night. 570 00:26:06,370 --> 00:26:09,830 She really told me about that this time it was over. 571 00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:13,000 He had yelled at her because she was in the pool, 572 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,200 and she was topless in the pool or something, 573 00:26:15,290 --> 00:26:17,660 and he was, you know, yelled at her about that, 574 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:19,950 and suddenly he was getting, you know, 575 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,330 wanting her to cover up and be, you know, 576 00:26:22,410 --> 00:26:24,410 he was trying to control her again. 577 00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,500 And she realized that this was gonna be 578 00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:29,330 a really bad... 579 00:26:29,370 --> 00:26:33,160 circle of, you know, going nowhere. 580 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,080 Now it was for good. 581 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,830 I think he took that as a real rejection, 582 00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:44,410 and then he would have to lash out at her. 583 00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:46,700 She would lash out at him. 584 00:26:46,830 --> 00:26:50,120 It just became, uh... 585 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,370 not good. 586 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:54,450 But at the same time, 587 00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:59,540 she would never speak illy of him 588 00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:02,580 until the letter came. 589 00:27:03,910 --> 00:27:06,500 It was something to do with, he had given her money 590 00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:09,700 that she had not declared on her taxes, 591 00:27:09,790 --> 00:27:12,000 and so he was coming after her 592 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,580 and he was gonna turn her into the IRS. 593 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,370 She was angry. 594 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:22,500 She was angry that he would threaten her and the children 595 00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:25,750 and their ability to live happily. 596 00:27:25,870 --> 00:27:28,750 For her, "Yeah, okay, you can treat me like dirt. 597 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:31,160 You can do it, but not our children." 598 00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:35,290 She was very good at hiding things that O.J. did. 599 00:27:35,370 --> 00:27:37,660 I mean, she only really came clean with me 600 00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:39,580 after they were divorced. 601 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:42,120 I just had too much information. 602 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,870 And I knew he had a knife collection. 603 00:27:43,950 --> 00:27:45,450 I don't know if people know that. 604 00:27:45,540 --> 00:27:46,700 He was very into knives. 605 00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:48,580 And when we got married, 606 00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:51,950 my father was a lifer marine, 607 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,830 and he had a ceremonial sword with him. 608 00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:59,200 And O.J. was fascinated by that sword. 609 00:27:59,330 --> 00:28:01,660 He took a hold of that sword, 610 00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:03,500 swung him around, and took the sword 611 00:28:03,580 --> 00:28:05,790 like he was gonna cut his neck. 612 00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:09,330 And it made me nervous because... 613 00:28:09,410 --> 00:28:11,000 when they were married, 614 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000 there had once been a conversation 615 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,830 while we were all out for dinner 616 00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:17,040 and we were talking small talk, 617 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,790 and somebody said, "Well, what are you afraid of?" 618 00:28:19,870 --> 00:28:23,700 My fear, of course, was always, 619 00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:27,500 as a flight attendant, being in a fiery crash, 620 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:29,790 you know, fire, dying in a fire. 621 00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:33,330 O.J.'s fear was drowning. 622 00:28:33,410 --> 00:28:36,870 Nicole said at that dinner 623 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,410 she had fears of being attacked from behind 624 00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,160 and being slashed by a knife. 625 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,830 And... 626 00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:50,830 go a couple of years down the road 627 00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:53,620 when they were having a very difficult time. 628 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:56,080 We were sitting out on the beach. 629 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,660 And she said, "D'Anne, you remember that conversation?" 630 00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:05,540 She said, "Whenever we had these big fights," 631 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:08,660 he would say to her, 632 00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:13,330 "I am going to chop you up in little pieces 633 00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:15,830 "and bury you up on Mulholland, 634 00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:17,950 "and no one will know where you are, 635 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,120 not even your children." 636 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,000 ♪ 637 00:29:34,910 --> 00:29:36,950 DOMINIQUE: Uh... 638 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:41,410 We had gone up that night for a recital. 639 00:29:42,540 --> 00:29:45,290 And it was Sydney's recital for her school. 640 00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:50,160 Then, you know, we all went to the auditorium for the show. 641 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,660 It was the first time that Simpson was actually... 642 00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:55,700 His ticket was left at will call. 643 00:29:55,790 --> 00:29:57,120 He didn't come with us. 644 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,200 I thought, "That's kind of odd," 645 00:29:59,290 --> 00:30:02,000 'cause he's usually always there at every, every event, 646 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,160 every kind of rec-- everything. 647 00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:08,290 DOMINIQUE: I sat with Nic, uh... 648 00:30:08,370 --> 00:30:11,870 O.J. came in and he sat kind of in the corner in the back. 649 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,870 It was, it was kind of weird. 650 00:30:13,950 --> 00:30:16,250 All of a sudden, Simpson was behind me, 651 00:30:16,330 --> 00:30:19,040 and then Justin came and sat on his lap. 652 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040 And I-- so I turned around, and then it was the first time 653 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,870 that I actually had a conversation with him 654 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:27,160 where he would tell me, or he told me, 655 00:30:27,250 --> 00:30:29,700 that he was going to Chicago that night. 656 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,250 And I thought, "Well, that's kind of odd." 657 00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:35,790 He's never, ever told me that he was going anywhere 658 00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:38,500 on a business trip, ever. 659 00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:41,080 DOMINIQUE: Every once in a while, Nic would want to go outside 660 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,370 'cause she liked to sneak cigarettes. 661 00:30:43,450 --> 00:30:44,700 And we went outside, 662 00:30:44,790 --> 00:30:46,500 and she asked me about my son's father. 663 00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:48,290 Like, "When you split up, 664 00:30:48,290 --> 00:30:51,160 did he want to be around you but not want to be with you?" 665 00:30:51,290 --> 00:30:54,370 She said, "'Cause I feel like O.J.'s staring at me." 666 00:30:54,450 --> 00:30:56,160 That's when she told me, she said, 667 00:30:56,250 --> 00:30:57,870 "We're going to dinner later, but it'll be 668 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,950 the first time he's not invited." 669 00:30:59,950 --> 00:31:01,660 Then we went to the restaurant, 670 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:05,000 and we were all sitting around the table at Mezzaluna. 671 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,250 She goes, "Oh, God, there he, there he goes again." 672 00:31:08,330 --> 00:31:11,660 And I said, "What?" And she goes, "There he goes." 673 00:31:11,790 --> 00:31:14,700 She goes, "O.J. driving by." 674 00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:18,250 And I go, I go, "God." She goes, "Yeah." 675 00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:20,370 She goes, "It happens all the time." 676 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,500 KATO: After the recital, O.J., uh, was in the kitchen area. 677 00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:30,830 He said, uh-- at the recital she was wearing a mini skirt, 678 00:31:30,910 --> 00:31:34,660 and, uh, wondering, "How can someone at her age," 679 00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,870 he's saying, "What are they gonna do when she's a grandma? 680 00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:38,830 She can't be wearing these outfits." 681 00:31:38,910 --> 00:31:43,000 He had threatened. He said, uh... 682 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,950 he didn't get time to spend with the kids 683 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,200 after the recital, so he was gonna play hardball 684 00:31:48,370 --> 00:31:51,660 by telling her that he's gonna report her to the IRS. 685 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:55,330 DOMINIQUE: We were in the car and we were driving home. 686 00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:58,120 My mom was really quiet, like, eerily quiet. 687 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,620 And she said, "I-I don't have my glasses. 688 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:02,000 I forgot my glasses." 689 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,540 She was acting, like, funny. 690 00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:07,000 DENISE: She didn't talk the whole way home, 691 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,450 which was so unlike my mother, 692 00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:10,000 because we would've talked about the recital, 693 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,160 we would've talked about dinner, 694 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,410 we would've talked about something. 695 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:15,040 My mom walks in 696 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,910 and walks right by me, slowly, 697 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,040 like, slowly, and I go, "Hi, Mom." 698 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,620 I go, "How was it?" Nothing. 699 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:23,750 She called Nic. 700 00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:25,200 And she-- Nicole said, you know, 701 00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:27,370 "It's okay. Don't worry about it. 702 00:32:27,450 --> 00:32:30,870 I'm gonna call over there, and we'll get your glasses." 703 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:33,410 She had our waiter, who was Ron, 704 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:35,080 get the glasses. 705 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,700 He said that he would drop them off. 706 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:41,410 And that's how Ron ended up there. 707 00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:45,580 My mother, she was still not the same. 708 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:49,000 It was as if she knew something was gonna happen. 709 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,370 And something did happen. 710 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:53,330 ♪ 711 00:32:55,450 --> 00:32:57,330 My name is Tom Lange, 712 00:32:57,410 --> 00:32:59,450 and I was one of the lead investigators 713 00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:02,160 on the O.J. Simpson murder investigation. 714 00:33:03,290 --> 00:33:06,200 Allan Park's a limo driver who was sent to pick up... 715 00:33:06,290 --> 00:33:09,540 O.J. the night that this occurred. 716 00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:12,120 He was a first-time driver. 717 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,040 He'd never been up there before, so he always arrives early. 718 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,450 He gets there about 10:25 p.m. 719 00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:19,450 I drove up there 720 00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:23,620 and I pull up to his house, to his property. 721 00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:26,830 I get out and I start ringing the intercom, 722 00:33:26,910 --> 00:33:28,500 and it's ringing into the house. 723 00:33:28,580 --> 00:33:31,830 It rings and rings and rings, and nobody picks up. 724 00:33:31,910 --> 00:33:33,200 So I'm starting to wonder, like... 725 00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:36,410 "Is-is he here? Is he not here?" 726 00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:38,040 About 10:35, 727 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,250 we have a witness. 728 00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:42,000 He's walking his dogs. 729 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,040 He goes right down Bundy, 730 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,540 past the Bundy location. 731 00:33:44,660 --> 00:33:46,330 He hears a communica... 732 00:33:46,450 --> 00:33:49,540 It sounds like an argument between two men. 733 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:51,950 Then he hears the clanging of a gate 734 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,950 and he hears somebody yell, "Hey, hey, hey." 735 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,830 He looks up and he sees a white, uh, 736 00:33:57,870 --> 00:33:59,660 box-like vehicle 737 00:33:59,750 --> 00:34:01,580 leaving the scene on Bundy 738 00:34:01,660 --> 00:34:03,830 at a high rate of speed. 739 00:34:03,870 --> 00:34:07,000 My name is Jill Shively. 740 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,200 On June 12th, I woke up. 741 00:34:09,290 --> 00:34:11,160 I wasn't feeling that well. I'd had the flu. 742 00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:14,370 I wanted to go to get a salad bar or something healthy 743 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:17,910 at this place called Westward Ho in San Vicente. 744 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000 I left my home at 10:45 p.m. 745 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,450 So I... I looked at my clock 746 00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:25,160 and I said, "Okay, I have 15 minutes to 747 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,160 get there and get the food." 748 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:28,000 So I remember jumping in my car. 749 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,700 I'm at the-- driving up San Vicente, 750 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:32,620 and then I'm nearing Bundy. 751 00:34:32,700 --> 00:34:35,200 At that intersection is where I almost collide 752 00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:38,290 with this Bronco running the red light. 753 00:34:38,370 --> 00:34:40,370 And it had no lights on, 754 00:34:40,450 --> 00:34:43,200 so I didn't have that much of a warning. 755 00:34:43,290 --> 00:34:44,910 It swerved to miss me, 756 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,500 but then it had to swerve to miss hitting 757 00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:49,290 a gray Nissan going the other way. 758 00:34:49,370 --> 00:34:51,790 And then the Bronco has its, um, 759 00:34:51,870 --> 00:34:53,450 wheel up on the median. 760 00:34:53,540 --> 00:34:56,200 He was yelling at the other driver to move out of the way. 761 00:34:56,290 --> 00:34:58,620 Then it hit me. I'm like, that's that guy, 762 00:34:58,700 --> 00:34:59,660 that actor. That's O.J. 763 00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:01,830 We had just seen the movie 764 00:35:01,910 --> 00:35:04,660 Naked Gun 33 1/3 with my mom, 765 00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:07,620 so that was why I was able to recognize him. 766 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:08,750 He looked angry. 767 00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:10,660 He obviously was in a rush. 768 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:13,660 But he looked like I had done something to him. 769 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:16,660 And I remember being upset, 770 00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:18,330 being angry at this, 771 00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:20,660 I called him, self-entitled person 772 00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:21,500 who's drinking and driving. 773 00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:25,500 So I went ahead and I called LAPD. 774 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:27,910 So they took all my information. 775 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,370 She was kind of cynical, 776 00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:30,660 like, "Well, you're not hurt, are you?" 777 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:32,910 "No, I'm not hurt." "Did he hurt anyone?" "No." 778 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,040 She didn't really want to 779 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,040 talk to me about O.J. 780 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,370 or what could have happened. 781 00:35:39,290 --> 00:35:41,200 PETROCELLI: Now, did you ever learn that Nicole 782 00:35:41,330 --> 00:35:44,080 was seeing Marcus again in 1994? 783 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,080 -No. -In about March, April 784 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,160 -or May or June? -No. 785 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,000 -Did anybody tell you that? -No. 786 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,040 Did anybody tell you that they saw his car 787 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,500 at Nicole's place at Bundy? 788 00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:56,830 No. 789 00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:58,450 The night of this tragedy, 790 00:35:58,540 --> 00:36:01,660 when Nicole was killed, by coincidence, 791 00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:03,250 Marcus Allen and his wife 792 00:36:03,330 --> 00:36:06,620 were to travel, I think, to the Bahamas 793 00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:09,750 or someplace for a golf tournament that he was in. 794 00:36:09,830 --> 00:36:11,830 Later on, it became known that 795 00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:14,330 Marcus had missed the flight. 796 00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:17,950 His wife had gone... 797 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,160 alone, and he had taken the next flight. 798 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,830 Robert Kardashian told me that he believed that 799 00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:27,080 O.J. went to see Nicole. 800 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,910 O.J. may have seen Marcus Allen's car 801 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,830 driving away at the end of the alley. 802 00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:38,870 If Kardashian's theory is correct, 803 00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:41,370 then you can see why O.J. 804 00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:42,910 would have really flipped out. 805 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,410 You have to also understand 806 00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:46,830 that, to this day, Marcus Allen 807 00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:48,830 has never said a word about O.. 808 00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:56,250 CLARK: All right, you indicated that you 809 00:36:56,330 --> 00:36:58,410 placed a phone call to Rachel Ferrara 810 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,910 -at about 10:10 p.m. -Yes. 811 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,450 And that during that phone call, you were seated on the bed 812 00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:05,040 with your back up against that headboard? 813 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,410 Yes. 814 00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:07,750 During that phone call, sir, 815 00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:09,790 did something unusual occur? 816 00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:11,290 -Yes. -And what was that? 817 00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:14,950 Around the 10:40-ish, 10:45 hour, I'm on the phone 818 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,950 with a woman named Rachel. 819 00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:18,330 You know, we were just, uh, 820 00:37:18,450 --> 00:37:20,330 chatting, and then these 821 00:37:20,370 --> 00:37:22,830 unusual thumps happened. 822 00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:24,120 But they weren't like thu... 823 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,500 Like, the word "thumps" makes it sound, 824 00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:28,830 you know, lesser than it is. 825 00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:30,370 But it was, you know, 826 00:37:30,450 --> 00:37:32,370 it was startling enough to where 827 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:33,910 he was like, "Oh, my God, was there an earthquake?" 828 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,500 And I was like, "No." 829 00:37:35,580 --> 00:37:38,120 KATO: The picture on my wall is a picture 830 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,330 that moved like this. 831 00:37:39,370 --> 00:37:40,910 And, you know, I said 832 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,160 there were the three thumps, 833 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,950 but it was like these noises that were... 834 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,000 that were loud enough to move it. 835 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,950 -It was, uh... -(banging) 836 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,950 ...like that. 837 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,500 So, I thought, oh, 838 00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:51,540 logically, it's California. 839 00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:52,750 I thought there was an earthquake. 840 00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:57,660 I'm still looking in through the gates there, 841 00:37:57,700 --> 00:37:59,290 and then that's when I start to-- 842 00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:03,500 I notice a dark figure coming from 843 00:38:03,580 --> 00:38:05,580 the garage side of the house, 844 00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:08,370 moving, you know, very quickly 845 00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:11,000 and heading towards the front of the door. 846 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,410 I figure, okay, well, you know, that's him. Somebody's here. 847 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:17,410 So I get back out and I ring the intercom again. 848 00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:19,250 It's ringing. It's ringing for a little bit. 849 00:38:19,330 --> 00:38:20,370 You know, for a little while. 850 00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:22,160 It rings, rings, ring. 851 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,000 And he finally picks up the intercom 852 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,370 and he says, "Hey, man. 853 00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:27,160 "Hey, hey, sorry, I just got out of the shower. 854 00:38:27,250 --> 00:38:28,830 I'll be down in a minute." 855 00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:29,790 I'm like, "Okay." 856 00:38:31,330 --> 00:38:33,040 (line ringing) 857 00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:37,370 I kept hearing... I could hear in the distance 858 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,200 this ringing, ringing, ringing, 859 00:38:39,290 --> 00:38:40,290 going over and over. 860 00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:42,660 And, uh, it was the house phone, 861 00:38:42,750 --> 00:38:44,870 you could hear from the intercom, 862 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,250 and that's the limo driver. 863 00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:48,000 That time, when I go to hang up the intercom, 864 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,330 I see another person come out 865 00:38:49,450 --> 00:38:51,290 from around the back of the house, 866 00:38:51,370 --> 00:38:53,950 who I know now is Kato. 867 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,790 He goes, "Oh, I'm here to pick up O.J." or something. 868 00:38:55,870 --> 00:38:57,700 And I was like, "Hey, did we have an earthquake?" 869 00:38:57,790 --> 00:39:00,410 I'm like, "No, I didn't feel anything. 870 00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:02,160 What, we had an earthquake?" 871 00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:03,370 And he's like, "Are you sure?" 872 00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:04,540 And I said, "No, I didn't feel anything." 873 00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:06,580 Then I saw luggage out in front 874 00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:09,200 and, uh, I helped the limo driver. 875 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,000 And then O.J. was outside. 876 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,870 He just appeared outside. 877 00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:15,620 I couldn't tell if he showered or not. 878 00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:18,580 I mean, I did remember seeing beads of sweat on him. 879 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:21,040 And I was gonna run to this bag 880 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,830 that was about 20 yards away. 881 00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:25,200 And O.J. literally jumped out and said, 882 00:39:25,290 --> 00:39:27,200 "No, no, no. That's okay, I'll get that bag. 883 00:39:27,290 --> 00:39:28,910 Don't, don't touch that bag. I'll get it." 884 00:39:31,450 --> 00:39:32,750 ALAN: You know, and I thought it was odd. 885 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:34,080 You know, I thought it was like, 886 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,500 "That's kind of weird. 887 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:37,410 Why is he so protective of that bag?" 888 00:39:39,830 --> 00:39:41,750 That's the bag that no one's ever found. 889 00:39:42,830 --> 00:39:45,620 Kato is still talking about an earthquake. 890 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:49,120 So I remember O.J. telling Kato, 891 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,500 "You go around that way," 892 00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:51,830 meaning around the garage, 893 00:39:51,870 --> 00:39:54,160 "and I'll go back around the other way, 894 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,500 and we'll see if anything's back there." 895 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:03,370 Kato starts to go around the garage, and... 896 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:06,450 O.J. starts to follow right behind him. 897 00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:08,000 And I was like, you know, that's kind of weird. 898 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,500 He just said he was gonna go the other way. 899 00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:12,750 So I start to follow O.J. 900 00:40:14,540 --> 00:40:15,370 As we start to go around 901 00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:16,750 the garage, he turns around, 902 00:40:16,830 --> 00:40:18,450 he sees that I'm following him. 903 00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:20,830 And at that point, he says, "Oh, we got to go." 904 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,120 You know? "We're late. We got to get out of here." 905 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,000 And I knew we were kind of pressed on time and whatnot. 906 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,250 It was getting a little bit late. And I said, 907 00:40:27,330 --> 00:40:28,700 "Okay, let's-- Yeah, we got to go." 908 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,120 When I arrived at Bundy, the street was blocked off. 909 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,370 The officers, before I arrived, had been inside the home 910 00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:40,950 and cleared the home 911 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,250 and had found two children upstairs, 912 00:40:44,370 --> 00:40:46,540 sound asleep, that they had to wake up. 913 00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:51,000 And they'd since transported both of the kids, 914 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,750 uh, to West L.A. Station. 915 00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:56,500 When I looked at the bodies, I could see Nicole 916 00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:58,620 had been severely slashed. 917 00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:02,120 Her neck-- I observed the vertebrae in the back. 918 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,000 She'd been nearly decapitated. 919 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,330 Goldman-- numerous cutting stab wounds. 920 00:41:08,370 --> 00:41:10,160 There'd obviously been, in my mind, 921 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,540 a struggle of some type. 922 00:41:11,660 --> 00:41:14,500 The front door was wide open. 923 00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:16,450 If you look at the footwear impressions, 924 00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:18,200 they go up the stairs 925 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,540 and to a point where they're just 926 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:22,660 beyond the door and they stop. 927 00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:26,660 And whoever left those impressions turns around 928 00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:28,790 and looks back towards the bodies, 929 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:30,660 and then turns around the other way 930 00:41:30,750 --> 00:41:33,290 and continues walking towards the rear. 931 00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:35,950 Candles lit downstairs. 932 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,790 We go upstairs. 933 00:41:37,870 --> 00:41:41,370 There's a bathtub, a large tub with drawn water. 934 00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:43,910 There's candles all the way around. 935 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,500 Is this a romantic setup 936 00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:48,250 because her boyfriend came over? 937 00:41:48,330 --> 00:41:49,700 No, not necessarily. 938 00:41:49,830 --> 00:41:51,870 You can't jump to that conclusion. 939 00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:54,660 Kitchen was... no, there were no dirty dishes. 940 00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:56,450 I've got a knife, a butcher knife. 941 00:41:56,540 --> 00:41:58,290 There's no trace on there. 942 00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:59,580 There's no fingerprints on there. 943 00:41:59,660 --> 00:42:00,750 There's no nothing. 944 00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:09,370 Just prior to the murders-- 945 00:42:09,450 --> 00:42:11,750 this is about ten, ten days, I think-- 946 00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:14,540 Nicole tells her mom Juditha 947 00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:18,500 that she is missing keys to her home at Bundy, 948 00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:22,040 the front door and the gate. 949 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,450 And that she is concerned that 950 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:25,700 O.J. may have taken them 951 00:42:25,830 --> 00:42:27,750 the last time he was there to see the kids. 952 00:42:27,830 --> 00:42:29,410 I think there's a possibility, 953 00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,080 as evidenced, that she was concerned 954 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,950 for her safety because 955 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,830 she knew that he was stalking her and following her. 956 00:42:40,910 --> 00:42:42,200 We're gonna need some answers here. 957 00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:43,790 What's going on with all of this? 958 00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:50,910 DOMINIQUE: She was gone. 959 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,580 DENISE: I said, "Oh, my God, 960 00:42:52,660 --> 00:42:53,910 he finally did it." 961 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,830 DOMINIQUE: O.J. stopped me 962 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:57,750 and he says, "You have to come with me 963 00:42:57,830 --> 00:42:58,870 to go see Nicole." 964 00:42:58,950 --> 00:43:00,500 D'ANNE: Dita turned to him 965 00:43:00,580 --> 00:43:02,450 and said, "Did you do this?" 966 00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:05,000 I was like, "He's gonna tell her he did it." 967 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,540 (sirens wailing) 968 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,450 ROBIN: He's not going to kill O.J. Simpson. 969 00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:13,830 It's much easier to kill other people. 970 00:43:13,870 --> 00:43:16,790 (woman speaking Spanish) 971 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:19,830 -DENISE: It was madness. -(honks horn) 972 00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:22,330 Who's talking to the media? 973 00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:24,250 Who's going to say something? 974 00:43:24,370 --> 00:43:26,160 I totally believe in 975 00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:27,370 my friend's innocence. 976 00:43:27,450 --> 00:43:29,080 She was just another girl 977 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,160 and he was O.J. 978 00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:32,500 STEVENS: We opened the safe deposit box 979 00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:34,830 and she had a diary that lists abuse. 980 00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:36,950 DOMINIQUE: They're just being hidden. 981 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,160 ROBERTSON: We, the jury, in the above entitled action 982 00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:41,700 find the defendant not guilty of the crime of murder. 983 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,620 -(cheering) -DENISE: How could one person 984 00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:45,200 (bleep) up so many people's lives? 985 00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:47,500 The fact that he is a convicted wife batterer 986 00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:50,290 means that he may present a rik of harm to these children. 987 00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:51,660 DENISE: He took 'em away. 988 00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:55,330 INTERVIEWER: Were you aware of events in Florida? 989 00:43:55,410 --> 00:43:58,750 There was close to 17 police reports we found. 990 00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:03,160 O.J. Simpson did receive MDMA, um, and other narcotics. 991 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,870 He was a user. 992 00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:07,160 DOMINIQUE: Oh, my God. 993 00:44:07,290 --> 00:44:09,040 Who was there to protect them? 994 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,120 DOYNE: How do these children grow up to be normal 995 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,660 if the person that murdered their mother 996 00:44:13,830 --> 00:44:15,370 is caring for them? 997 00:44:15,450 --> 00:44:18,750 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 76996

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