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Here I am, all done swimming.
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Say, "That was fun, Mommy."
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DENISE: Nicole wanted
that white picket fence,
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those 2.5 kids, you know?
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She wanted that life.
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(laughter)
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NICOLE: O.J., you look
gorgeous right now.
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FAYE:
As she was learning
how to be who she was...
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...she was murdered.
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Absolutely, 100% not guilty.
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DENISE:
There was so much public opinin
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about everything.
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I never thought he did it
in the first place.
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He said if he ever did it,
he would get away with it.
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He knows what he did!
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Great individual,
I hope it's not true.
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-MAN 2: O.J. today, O.J.!
-WOMAN: I'm very happy
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for his family,
for his children.
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I'm very happy.
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D'ANNE:
I mean, my God, it was
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everywhere you went.
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A man widely admired
in this country is now
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caught in the web
of a terrible tragedy.
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The Brown family is angry
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at the tabloid coverage of her
brief life as a single woman.
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The media descended
like vultures.
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REPORTER:
$24,000.
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$300,000... $30,000 a week.
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MAN 3: It's a massive influx
of tourists, hundreds
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of thousands of dollars,
even millions of dollars
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that people made
off of that trial.
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WOMAN 2: The most notorious,
most highly publicized
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trial of the century.
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Okay, I killed the bitch.
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It won't fit.
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Aah! Oh, my God!
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-It doesn't fit.
-Look at that.
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Oh, no. O.J. has struck again.
How about that?
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DENISE: You didn't know
who you could trust.
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-Who's talking to the media?
-I totally believe
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in my friend's innocence.
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DENISE: It wasn't about Nicole,
it wasn't about Ron.
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It was about who could win.
Who played the best game.
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COCHRAN:
If it doesn't fit,
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you must acquit.
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It is shortly before noon,
Chicago time,
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and history is in the making.
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FOREWOMAN: We, the jury,
in the above entitled action,
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find the defendant not guilty.
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DENISE:
Let's get away with murder.
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JASON: I will pursue
the killer or killers
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who slaughtered
Nicole and Mr. Goldman.
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DENISE: My God, if he was
gonna look for the murderer,
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he sure didn't do
a very good job.
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♪ They call me Juice. ♪
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(screeching)
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♪ The Juice. ♪
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WOMAN:
It just seemed like a big game.
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Only one time did I physically
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try to force my will
on Nicole Simpson.
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-911 emergency.
-NICOLE: Can you get someone
over here now?
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-He's back.
-Wait a minute,
what's your name?
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NICOLE:
Nicole Simpson.
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If anything, I was
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a peacemaker in this house.
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DENISE: I mean, he (bleep) up
our whole family.
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How could one person (bleep) up
so many people's lives?
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Her children missed out,
her family missed out.
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NICOLE:
♪ Hello, Sydney. ♪
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DENISE: I honestly believe that
this world does not know...
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PARTYGOERS:
♪ Happy birthday... ♪
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...who Nicole Brown was.
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NICOLE:
I love you.
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♪
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O.J.: The person who's made the
most money out of Nicole's deah
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is Denise Brown.
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-She ain't on welfare anymore.
-DENISE: Excuse me!
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You murdered Nicole
and you know you did it.
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And, you know,
I mean, you're just amazing.
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What have you ever given me,
O.J.?
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-O.J.: You're so guilty.
-DENISE: You and I,
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we didn't get along
because you couldn't control me.
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-That's why we didn't get along.
-Oh, is that it? I think it was
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'cause Nicole was afraid
you were gonna have sex with m.
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-Oh, please!
-That's why we didn't get alon.
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-It was Nicole that told
you to stay away.
-Oh, please.
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Your ego is just really riding
a little bit too high, Simpson.
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Mm.
(inhales deeply)
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PRODUCER:
This is Denise interview,
take one.
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Three cameras.
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Oh, okay.
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Uh, is there, there's only
one name I don't want to say,
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if you don't mind. Ever.
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DENISE:
Okay.
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Him.
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(children laughing)
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DENISE:
I was always protecting Nicole
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even when we were young.
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The two of us being less than
two years apart in age,
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we had that closeness.
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I was born in Germany,
in Frankfurt.
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My mother is German,
she was in Stuttgart.
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And my father was an American.
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And he went over there
for World War II.
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And they met after the war.
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He decided
that he was going to move
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the family to California and
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it was just Nicole and I
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until 1964,
when Dominique was born.
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♪
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I feel like I've kept my Nicole
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really private for so long.
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She was very, very stubborn.
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She was very, very determined
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to a point where she was gonna
do what she wanted to do
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no matter what.
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My mom called her hard-headed.
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You know, maybe it's time
to rekindle the...
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the flame of Nicole.
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The dynamics
between Nicole and I,
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we were just always together.
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When we moved to Laguna Beach
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down to Monarch Bay,
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I was a-a senior
and she was a junior.
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And everybody thought,
"Oh, that's gonna be
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so difficult for the girls."
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And... I don't know.
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It wasn't difficult for us,
and I think
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it was because
we had each other.
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We would talk
about the boys and,
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you know,
about her dreams, about,
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you know, wanting her kids
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and wanting to be a mom.
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Everybody running
around the house,
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and just like
what my mom and dad had.
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TANYA:
We're really lucky.
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We come from a really...
kind of a perfect family.
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But we're not perfect.
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But compared
to what's out there,
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we're really blessed
to have the family that we did.
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A camera, ooh!
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-Mama loves the camera.
-(laughs)
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Hi. Whoop!
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(lively chatter)
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(laughs)
Oh, I just escaped that!
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My name is Judie Manto.
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And I've been friends
with the Brown family
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for approximately 50 years.
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Judi, who is Nicole's mother,
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probably my best friend.
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And she was a nurturing,
beautiful woman.
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Judi and I kind of gravitated
to one another.
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We'd spend a lot of time
at each other's houses.
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I have often thought,
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in regards to my friend Judi,
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would we rather have spared...
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...ourselves
the terrible heartbreak
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of some of the events
we've been through,
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never having known these
people?
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And when I give myself
that test, it's always...
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no, I want to know
and love these people.
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That's better.
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I think living in Monarch Bay,
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it was a bit being
in a bubble for our children.
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Nicole had a great friend,
fortunately,
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who was a neighbor young man.
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So they became roommates
in Los Angeles.
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And that was a relief
to the Browns.
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I'm David LeBon.
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I've known the Brown families
for almost 40 years.
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(cheering, clamoring)
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Nicole decided that she wanted
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to come move up
when she was 18 to live with me.
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I had a studio apartment,
very small apartment.
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Just one bed in the living room
that folded out like a couch.
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I let her sleep on that,
and I had a sleeping bag.
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It was good times back then,
really good times.
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A lot of things
I just don't remember.
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It's been a long time.
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When you talk to my ex-wife,
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she remembers when she was
three. I can't, so, you know?
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-Oh, that's all right.
-Dirty like me.
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Joey likes it.
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My name is D'Anne Purcilly.
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And I was married
to David LeBon.
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When I first met Nicole,
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the stories that were
told to me
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were stories when she moved in
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with my ex-husband David
in Hollywood.
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And David said she went to work
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at The Daisy and she was
working as a hostess.
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And that's where she met O.J.
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DAVID: Nicole came home
one night and she said,
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"I've met this guy."
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He kept coming in
and seeing her and
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he had this obsession about her.
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She just said, "Oh, he's a,
he's some football player.
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that's all I know,
and his name's O.J. Simpson."
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And I went, "Oh, crap."
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She goes, "Well, I think,
you know, we're gonna go out."
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And I went, "Oh, geez, really?
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Well, he's much older."
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So I said,
"Well, when you go out,
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I want you home by 12:00."
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David said he picked her up
in his Rolls Royce.
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Impressed her. I mean, you're
talking about an 18-year-old.
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They came home from the date.
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And when she came home,
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her pants were ripped.
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The zipper was ripped,
and they were jeans.
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And Dave is like,
"You can't just rip jeans
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like a linen-something
or, you know."
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And I said, "Nicole, what hap--
what happened to you?"
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"He got a little forceful."
And I said,
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"Why would you let him
do that to you?
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Why, on your first date,
would you, you know?"
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"David, calm down."
And I was so pissed.
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He was really upset,
and he wanted to go out
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and, you know,
kind of have a few words.
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And she said, "No, don't.
I really like him.
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I really, really like him."
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She fell in love with him
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I think the first time
she met him.
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She's just a girl from Laguna
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that met a guy
that swept her off her feet.
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They fell in love.
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And...
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had this perfect little life.
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MAN'S VOICE:
Oh, dear God.
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In the 60s,
I became a sports photographer,
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working for Sport magazine.
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And SC had a great,
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great football team
led by O.J. Simpson.
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And I-I made a very,
very iconic picture
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of O.J., you know, breaking that
record and winning the game.
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One day my daughter,
on a Sunday,
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comes running into the house.
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And she says, "Well, I missed.
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He threw a long one
and I missed it."
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I said, "What do you mean
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he threw a long one
and you missed it?"
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She says, "Well, O.J., you know,
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he lives across the street,
up the street."
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I said, "No, I didn't know
he lives there."
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And she says, "Well, yeah,
every Sunday, you know,
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"in the early morning, while
you and Mommy are sleeping,
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"we go out
and he throws footballs
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and long ones for us.
He plays with the kids."
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One morning, all of a sudden,
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we get a knock on the door.
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There's a police officer
that says,
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"We just got a call here.
What's wrong?
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"You know,
I'd like to come in, uh,
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see your wife,
speak to her, you know?"
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And I said, "Why?"
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He says,
"Well, we just got a call."
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And I said,
"Who are you looking for?"
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"Well, this is
the Simpson home, isn't it?"
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And I said, "No, he's
diagonally across the street."
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He went up to the house there,
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and I don't know
what happened after that.
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I'm Terry Schauer.
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I'm retired
Los Angeles police officer.
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It was in the '70s.
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My partner and I received
a radio call, domestic violence.
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It was in a residential
neighborhood
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that's off Mulholland Drive,
west of the San Diego Freeway.
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And we got to the home,
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and we were met at the door
by a woman.
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She'd got into an argument
with her husband,
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and during the course
of the argument,
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he became violent with her,
struck her.
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As I recall,
he pulled out some of her hair.
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I believe-- my memory is that
there was a clump of hair
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on the floor in the entryway
of the home.
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The children were there,
you know, being kids,
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just kind of standing around,
didn't seem overly upset,
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that I recall. She was upset.
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He had left the scene.
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We spoke to her briefly
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and kind of got
what story we could,
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but she didn't really want
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to go into a lot of details
about it.
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She just wanted
to leave the house,
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and she had no transportation.
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She declined a report
and wouldn't sign a report.
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She said,
"My husband's O.J. Simpson,
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the football player."
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She identified herself
as Marguerite Simpson.
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O.J.:
Marguerite, well, you know,
she's my lady, and, uh,
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I was a little wild
before I met her,
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and she's settled me down.
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MARGUERITE:
I love the area that we live i.
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It's quiet, you know, and, uh,
we have a lot of time together.
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Usually, he plays
a lot of tennis.
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SCHILLER:
Marguerite, his first wife,
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would talk about him
getting very, very angry
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and flipping out and, uh,
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using maybe the back of his hand
or something like that,
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or push or shove her
and this or that.
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And it became...
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I don't want to say
the talk of the neighborhood,
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but Marguerite wasn't afraid
to express herself
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and her difficulties
with those people.
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The short and long of it is,
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sometimes,
the aftermath of an event
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is more telling
than the event itself.
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Her name is Veterdata Jones.
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After months of watching
her famous brother-in-law's
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fall from grace,
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she decided
she had to speak out.
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What about reports O.J.
was abusive to your sister?
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Are those true?
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They had their moments where
they would disagree on things,
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but they were both very private.
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My name is Veterdata Jones.
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I am Marguerite's
youngest sister.
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I believe they met
in high school.
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But she was originally dating
Al Cowlings.
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O.J.:
A.C. Al Cowlings. (chuckles)
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Al and I, I mean,
what can you say?
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If anybody say,
"Well, O.J. hasn't changed."
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Well, Al probably has
a lot to do with that.
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VETERDATA:
A.C.-- Al Cowlings--
introduced her
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to Orenthal James,
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and O.J.
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moved in on my sister,
and I guess they had chemistry
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and decided to
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become a couple.
I don't know. (chuckles)
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They all remained
very close friends.
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I was five years old.
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I was flower girl
in their wedding.
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And when I was
in elementary school,
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he was in his
freshman year at USC,
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and he was famous.
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It...
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...affected the way
my sister felt about him
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and their relationship
as a whole.
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He was no longer
the person that she married.
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She felt that
his fame had created
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someone else, like,
he became a different person.
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I would not want to... Yeah,
I don't think I should go there.
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I think she should
address that herself,
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if she wants that
aired and publicized.
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I think that's her prerogative
to address that.
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It was challenging
for them both,
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Margie and O.J., um,
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to try to come together
and reach a happy medium
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in their relationship.
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They were in the process of...
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I don't know at what point
in the relationship,
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at Rockingham.
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I know it was
a joint effort to refurbish
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the English Tudor, the home,
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and things just seemed
to have gotten worse.
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The paparazzi escalated
with information
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about him and other women.
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I don't know if he met Nicole
before Rockingham.
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I do not know when
that relationship started.
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He certainly didn't
share it with me.
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I mean, we were pretty close.
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O.J. was always like a brother,
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not like my brother-in-law,
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and I would say to O.J.,
"You're my brother-in-law."
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And he said,
"No, I'm your brother."
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And to this day,
he still insists.
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He says, "I'm your brother."
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God, it makes me want to cry.
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Because I felt
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the pain between
O.J. as well as my sister,
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my compassion for them both.
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Marguerite and I
had just realized
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and decided the night before
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that it wasn't working with us,
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but it was our anniversary,
so I went into Beverly Hills.
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I bought her a coat,
and I ran into a friend of mine.
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He said, "Let's have breakfast."
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And when we walked in,
this... this vision
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turned to me and said,
"Where do you want to sit?"
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Before I went to the party,
I had to explain to her
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that I was married. (laughs)
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Nicole was really in love.
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She became a, you know,
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a girlfriend of someone who was
very famous, an arm piece.
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Dave said, just over the course
of a month or two,
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he had just...
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brought her in and
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turned her into...
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like, a starlet.
She was just so beautiful.
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She would tell me these things,
like, you know,
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"O.J. taught me how
to hold my mouth
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"when pictures were being taken
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"and how to hold my head
and how to stand
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00:18:42,330 --> 00:18:43,870
and present myself."
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So, she was... I felt like she
was just being molded by him
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by the time that I met her,
and...
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But she was very happy
and very in love.
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00:18:55,540 --> 00:18:58,700
There was always
a sexual tension
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00:18:58,790 --> 00:19:02,000
between O.J. and Nicole.
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00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,120
You could just feel it
401
00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:07,950
when somebody has chemistry
for another person,
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00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,370
and that's what it felt like.
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00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:14,580
JUDIE:
Judi was really happy.
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00:19:14,660 --> 00:19:17,660
She would say,
"He's a big football player."
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00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:20,700
You know, she-she thought
that that was great, and it was,
406
00:19:20,790 --> 00:19:23,250
of course. He was one of
the best football players ever.
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00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:25,750
And then the things
that he would do to annoy Judi,
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00:19:25,870 --> 00:19:29,450
she would just blow it off,
you know, like, oh, so what?
409
00:19:29,540 --> 00:19:30,790
It's nothing.
410
00:19:32,790 --> 00:19:36,370
Like having them all have
to have manicures and pedicures.
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00:19:37,410 --> 00:19:40,700
Which I find odd,
but... (laughs)
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00:19:40,830 --> 00:19:42,830
I mean, if you want your wife
to have manicures and pedicures,
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great, go for it.
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00:19:44,410 --> 00:19:47,080
But Judi would say, you know,
we'd be in our sandals,
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00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,500
and she-she'd say,
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00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:50,660
"O.J. would hate to look
at my toes right now.
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00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:54,370
They're not painted right,"
or something, and I go, "What?"
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00:19:54,450 --> 00:19:56,040
Um...
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00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:57,120
(sighs)
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O.J. would consult Judi a lot.
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00:20:00,410 --> 00:20:02,500
He would call her for advice.
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00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:05,160
DENISE:
He felt like
he could call her anytime.
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00:20:05,250 --> 00:20:07,330
And he did call her anytime.
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He called her in good times, and
he also called her in bad times.
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When they were having
an argument or a fight,
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he would round up
his posse, basically,
427
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,290
to say, "Your daughter did this.
428
00:20:17,370 --> 00:20:18,910
Your daughter did this."
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00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,330
You know, to bitch about Nicole.
430
00:20:20,370 --> 00:20:22,160
O.J. would say that
she was being crazy
431
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,290
or oversensitive.
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00:20:23,370 --> 00:20:25,500
Being oversensitive, basically,
433
00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:27,790
turns it into she did something
that was wrong,
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00:20:27,870 --> 00:20:31,660
and it was not his fault that
they were having an argument.
435
00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:33,700
The only thing is that
then they would make up,
436
00:20:33,790 --> 00:20:37,200
and my parents would still
be thinking about it.
437
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,330
But it was like
they would have arguments
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00:20:41,370 --> 00:20:43,660
like couples have arguments.
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ANNOUNCER:
San Francisco, 1977,
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the same year
Nicole and O.J. met,
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she writes, "The abuse began."
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00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:51,700
Quote...
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Nicole's secret journal is
a diary of hate and violence.
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DOMINIQUE:
I would call her, or she would
call me. I'd be at work,
445
00:21:08,580 --> 00:21:11,200
and, um, we would have
our conversations.
446
00:21:11,290 --> 00:21:14,200
She'd say,
"Yeah, we got in an argument
447
00:21:14,290 --> 00:21:16,750
last night, but, you know,
it was no big deal."
448
00:21:18,750 --> 00:21:21,410
I mean, was there something
I should've picked up on?
449
00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:23,540
I probably will always
think that, you know?
450
00:21:23,660 --> 00:21:25,540
Was there something,
was she trying,
451
00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:28,370
was she sending me
subtle-subtle hints of...
452
00:21:28,450 --> 00:21:30,660
that something was going on?
I don't know.
453
00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:35,200
Which makes me think,
because everybody
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00:21:35,290 --> 00:21:37,660
needs somebody to talk to.
455
00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:43,370
And I don't think
she had somebody to talk to.
456
00:21:57,700 --> 00:21:59,500
-Hi, Mom.
-NICOLE: (laughs) Hi, Mom.
457
00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:01,330
Hi, Dad, wherever you may be.
458
00:22:01,410 --> 00:22:06,660
D'ANNE:
A.C. has been around as long
as O.J. had been around
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00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:11,160
the Brown family because they
were pretty much best friends.
460
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,700
He... truly cared
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00:22:15,410 --> 00:22:16,700
...for Nicole, too.
462
00:22:16,790 --> 00:22:18,700
(growling)
463
00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:21,700
(laughs)
464
00:22:23,540 --> 00:22:27,410
Today is April 17, 1996.
The time is approximately 09:00.
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This is a test
to the audiovisual equipment
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00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,290
for the videotape deposition
being taken herein.
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00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:33,620
KELLY: After Marguerite
and Simpson were divorced,
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00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:35,830
did you remain friends
with Marguerite?
469
00:22:35,870 --> 00:22:37,580
Uh, yes.
470
00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:41,080
KELLY:
Do you recall ever discussing
471
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,450
the divorce with Mr. Simpson
prior to it happening?
472
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,080
No.
473
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,370
KELLY:
He never told you why
474
00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:51,450
-he was divorcing Marguerite?
-(sighs)
475
00:22:52,910 --> 00:22:56,200
At the time, him and Nicole
was going with each other, so...
476
00:22:56,290 --> 00:22:58,000
I assumed that
he wanted to marry Nicole.
477
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,410
KELLY:
Do you recall when...
478
00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:04,750
...Marguerite moved out
of Rockingham
479
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:07,160
and O.J. moved in there?
480
00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:09,040
I guess that
would've been in s...
481
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,500
in, uh, the fall of '79,
I-I guess.
482
00:23:15,950 --> 00:23:16,950
Oh, yeah.
483
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,580
I think there was, um...
484
00:23:19,660 --> 00:23:24,500
um, defiance and anger
and resentment on her part,
485
00:23:24,580 --> 00:23:28,410
and it overrode sound judgment
and good sense, perhaps.
486
00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:30,750
(siren wailing)
487
00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:33,540
VETERDATA:
So, that's probably why
the police had to come.
488
00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:37,120
It wasn't because she didn't
have enough money to go.
489
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,500
After they divorced,
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00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:42,370
she was walking through
the department store,
491
00:23:42,450 --> 00:23:44,540
and she saw
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00:23:44,620 --> 00:23:48,370
O.J. carrying a bunch of bags
and Nicole at his side.
493
00:23:49,790 --> 00:23:55,000
The divorce was not even
a year old, so that was hard.
494
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,910
And she came home devastated,
495
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,580
really hurt, angry.
496
00:24:00,660 --> 00:24:01,870
Like, how could you?
497
00:24:01,950 --> 00:24:03,500
It's like putting
a dagger in her gut
498
00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:05,500
and turning it around, like...
499
00:24:05,580 --> 00:24:07,250
And I don't mean
to describe it like that,
500
00:24:07,370 --> 00:24:09,330
but she was traumatized.
501
00:24:09,410 --> 00:24:10,950
She was very hurt.
502
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,450
I don't know if she had
503
00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:15,750
a good relationship
with Marguerite or not,
504
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:18,500
but I do know
she was a great stepmom.
505
00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:23,160
I think it was a little strained
with Arnelle, but not bad.
506
00:24:23,290 --> 00:24:25,160
I-I know she loved Arnelle.
507
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,370
O.J.:
There's a little Arnelle.
508
00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:28,040
DENISE:
Arnelle, being a girl,
509
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:30,790
I think she tolerated Nicole.
510
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:33,830
You know, she was more
on the side of Mom.
511
00:24:33,910 --> 00:24:36,580
You know, like, you broke up
my mom and dad.
512
00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:37,870
You know, that type of thing.
513
00:24:37,950 --> 00:24:39,750
'Cause girls
stick with their mothers.
514
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:42,870
I know Arnelle
would kind of make fun of
515
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,660
the way she would
say certain words
516
00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:46,500
or swirl her hair around,
517
00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:48,160
but they were starting
to all get close
518
00:24:48,290 --> 00:24:49,620
and come together.
519
00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:52,700
And my sister had let down
some of her barriers.
520
00:24:52,790 --> 00:24:56,160
Now, she had
a great relationship with Jason,
521
00:24:56,250 --> 00:24:58,330
just a nice kid.
522
00:24:58,410 --> 00:25:01,450
Now, he had
kind of a rough time,
523
00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:03,000
uh, with his dad.
524
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,660
My son is 14.
We had a duke-out just recently.
525
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:07,330
You actually had a little
fight with your son?
526
00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:08,330
Oh, a little boxing match.
527
00:25:08,450 --> 00:25:09,620
I had to let him know that, uh--
528
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:10,540
You mean you were
in the ring with him?
529
00:25:10,620 --> 00:25:12,200
Oh, no. In my front yard.
530
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,330
D'ANNE:
One night they had
a horrible fight,
531
00:25:14,450 --> 00:25:17,410
and Nicole actually called us
532
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:18,830
and said, you got to get here,
533
00:25:18,910 --> 00:25:23,080
because Jason was attacking
534
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,200
this statue outside
with a baseball bat.
535
00:25:26,290 --> 00:25:27,950
He was so angry at his dad.
536
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,700
She would go up and give
him big hugs and kisses
537
00:25:31,790 --> 00:25:36,080
and, you know, got to try
and understand your dad.
538
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,620
She knew that she was
probably the main cause
539
00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:45,950
of their parents'
marriage demise,
540
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040
and I think
she carried that with her.
541
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,330
And went out of her way
542
00:25:52,410 --> 00:25:54,580
to make sure
that those kids knew
543
00:25:54,660 --> 00:25:57,620
that they were welcomed
and loved in that house.
544
00:26:00,750 --> 00:26:04,200
PRODUCER:
This is RG interview,
take one. Marker.
545
00:26:06,330 --> 00:26:07,830
My name is Robin Greer,
546
00:26:07,910 --> 00:26:10,080
and I was close friends
with Nicole Brown Simpson
547
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,580
over the years.
548
00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:15,200
The first time that I went
to the Rockingham house,
549
00:26:15,290 --> 00:26:17,000
Nicole was living in that house,
550
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,040
and she was definitely
the lady of the manor.
551
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,160
Rockingham was like
552
00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:26,540
a slightly cleaner version
of the Playboy mansion.
553
00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:28,370
And it would be
a lot of celebrities
554
00:26:28,450 --> 00:26:30,540
and-and a lot of beautiful girls
555
00:26:30,620 --> 00:26:34,080
and it was sort of the place
556
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,870
to see and be seen,
557
00:26:35,950 --> 00:26:37,950
and everybody wanted
to go... go there.
558
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,330
It was, like, really
a great invitation.
559
00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:44,700
Rockingham, to me,
was like Camelot.
560
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,580
At the time, I thought
they were a great couple.
561
00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:53,080
I mean, they seemed like
they knew their roles,
562
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,870
and that's what they--
And they liked doing it,
563
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:56,580
and that was their routine.
564
00:26:56,660 --> 00:26:58,830
And, you know,
she was basically just
565
00:26:58,910 --> 00:27:02,580
somebody who, I think,
enjoyed running the show
566
00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:04,700
but not being the show.
567
00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:06,750
She let him be the show.
568
00:27:06,830 --> 00:27:09,290
She had her work
cut out for her,
569
00:27:09,370 --> 00:27:11,080
trying to be so perfect.
570
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,250
It's a lot of work
to keep up an image,
571
00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:16,830
to have to...
572
00:27:16,910 --> 00:27:18,950
make everybody happy
all the time.
573
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:21,830
That's hard.
574
00:27:21,910 --> 00:27:25,700
He's stressing me out.
His explanation was,
575
00:27:25,790 --> 00:27:27,500
"Well, I've been away all week.
576
00:27:27,620 --> 00:27:30,160
Yeah, I want 100% of her
when I'm home."
577
00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:33,450
-PRODUCER: Yeah.
-And that would make her
really tense.
578
00:27:33,540 --> 00:27:34,830
Because she was a perfectionist.
579
00:27:34,910 --> 00:27:37,080
She wanted everything
to be perfect.
580
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,660
She did tell me that he has
a bad temper, which we knew.
581
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:44,500
DENISE:
I was up in Los Angeles
with Nicole,
582
00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:46,830
and we all went out to dinner.
583
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,580
We went to a Mexican restaurant,
584
00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:50,540
and we started drinking tequila
585
00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:52,330
and having a good time.
586
00:27:52,410 --> 00:27:55,250
And all of a sudden,
we come back to the house...
587
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,660
...and they had
this beautiful bar,
588
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:02,120
and he starts making
more margaritas.
589
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,500
And so we keep drinking
the margaritas
590
00:28:04,580 --> 00:28:05,750
and drinking the margaritas.
591
00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:07,620
And then at one point,
592
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:09,290
I had to open up my mouth.
593
00:28:09,370 --> 00:28:12,660
I said, you know, you really
do take my sister for granted.
594
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:15,830
He started screaming at me.
595
00:28:15,910 --> 00:28:18,290
O.J.:
(bleep) in the living room.
596
00:28:18,370 --> 00:28:20,370
-They were here.
-NICOLE: (sighs) I'm sorry.
597
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:21,660
(O.J. shouting)
598
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:25,500
That went to
walking from the bar,
599
00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:27,870
going to the staircase,
600
00:28:27,950 --> 00:28:31,330
throwing pictures of our family
601
00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:32,750
down into the foyer.
602
00:28:32,830 --> 00:28:37,120
(O.J. shouting indistinctly)
603
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,660
But this is the first time
I ever saw him,
604
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:40,950
because, you know how people,
when they get angry,
605
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,830
they're, they, like, pulsate.
606
00:28:42,910 --> 00:28:47,330
Their, like, everything
starts pulsating here and here.
607
00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:51,910
And I just saw that, and I saw,
like, glazed-over eyes
608
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,700
where it didn't even look
like he was there anymore.
609
00:28:57,620 --> 00:29:00,870
He comes back down the stairs,
610
00:29:00,950 --> 00:29:02,540
and Nicole is standing there.
611
00:29:02,620 --> 00:29:04,160
He grabs her by the throat,
612
00:29:04,290 --> 00:29:08,160
and he puts her up against
the kitchen door,
613
00:29:08,290 --> 00:29:10,660
and he's got her
this far off the ground.
614
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:13,160
At one point, she was
at the, uh, at a door,
615
00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:15,160
and this is something
that Denise spoke about.
616
00:29:15,250 --> 00:29:18,290
And she started knocking
my pictures and things down.
617
00:29:18,370 --> 00:29:19,700
KELLY:
What pictures
was she knocking down?
618
00:29:19,870 --> 00:29:21,160
Whatever pictures
that were around.
619
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,160
On the stairway?
620
00:29:22,290 --> 00:29:25,120
Stairway had a table
in my entry, uh, armoire
621
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,660
that had
a lot of pictures on it.
622
00:29:26,750 --> 00:29:28,500
She just swiped them all off.
623
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:31,120
KELLY:
While you were-- She, you were
yelling at one another?
624
00:29:32,370 --> 00:29:33,250
I wasn't yelling.
625
00:29:33,330 --> 00:29:35,040
What was the, uh,
disagreement about?
626
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,870
I don't-- I don't,
I really don't know.
627
00:29:44,790 --> 00:29:47,370
(O.J. shouting indistinctly)
628
00:29:47,450 --> 00:29:50,870
Nicole is standing there.
He grabs her by the throat,
629
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:54,540
and he puts her up against
the kitchen door,
630
00:29:54,540 --> 00:29:58,660
and he... throws her out
the door,
631
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:00,660
and she ends up on her butt
632
00:30:00,790 --> 00:30:03,540
and ends up with
bloodied elbows.
633
00:30:03,620 --> 00:30:06,330
And then he throws me
out the door.
634
00:30:06,370 --> 00:30:08,250
But I didn't fall down.
635
00:30:09,660 --> 00:30:13,620
Then, nothing was
talked about anymore.
636
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:16,500
Life went on as usual.
637
00:30:16,540 --> 00:30:17,870
We went over to the house.
638
00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:19,450
It wasn't discussed again.
639
00:30:22,830 --> 00:30:26,870
One of our friends w-who
is very close with Nicole,
640
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:29,250
she told me of some really
horrible fights
641
00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:30,950
leading up to them
getting married.
642
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,160
HOST:
This is Elaine Young,
who is Jennifer's mother.
643
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,250
She is a realtor to the stars
in Los Angeles,
644
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:38,410
and she sold O.J.
that famous house in Brentwood.
645
00:30:38,410 --> 00:30:40,080
Let's talk to Jennifer first.
Y-You were you having--
646
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,870
Were you in this restaurant
having lunch already?
647
00:30:41,950 --> 00:30:44,700
Yes, well, we were waiting
to be seated at a table.
648
00:30:44,790 --> 00:30:46,540
I was walking out
of the restaurant
649
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:48,200
with a guy named Randy England,
650
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,750
but Elaine Young's daughter
was walking down,
651
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:54,580
and we were talking
as we walked out,
652
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,410
and we weren't
with these people.
653
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:58,910
He was kind enough
to ask us to join him.
654
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,200
I was with a girlfriend of mine.
655
00:31:01,450 --> 00:31:02,540
He was very sweet.
656
00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:03,830
So then did he invite you over?
657
00:31:03,870 --> 00:31:05,330
Um, yeah, in fact,
we had lunch with him.
658
00:31:06,250 --> 00:31:08,540
Nicole showed up, and I don't
know what Nicole thought,
659
00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:11,290
and she said something
very unpleasant to the girl.
660
00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:13,830
KELLY:
Did you talk to Nicole
after this incident
661
00:31:13,910 --> 00:31:15,950
to find out
what it was all about?
662
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:19,080
-I tried to.
-What did she say?
663
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,540
She didn't.
That was the incident.
664
00:31:20,660 --> 00:31:22,370
That was the time she moved out.
665
00:31:22,450 --> 00:31:26,160
And went to my friend's and
I proposed to her the next day.
666
00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:29,040
She said, "I'm getting married."
I said, "Excuse me?"
667
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,040
And she goes, "I want you
to be my maid of honor."
668
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,330
And I said, "Okay."
669
00:31:35,370 --> 00:31:37,750
And she goes,
"Yes, he's gonna get baptized.
670
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:39,580
"Everything is gonna change.
671
00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:42,000
He's gonna become a new person"
672
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,540
And that was after
seven years of dating.
673
00:31:45,620 --> 00:31:47,620
They dated for seven years.
674
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,790
And Nicole was under this...
675
00:31:51,790 --> 00:31:56,330
illusion that Simpson's
gonna get baptized
676
00:31:56,370 --> 00:31:59,290
and he's going to be
a different person.
677
00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:02,200
And she really believed that
678
00:32:02,290 --> 00:32:04,660
because so much had already
happened seven years prior
679
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:06,910
before they got married,
you know,
680
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,870
as far as, you know,
like infidelities
681
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:10,250
and things like that.
682
00:32:10,330 --> 00:32:12,790
But she wanted to believe it.
683
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:14,660
Let's just keep
our fingers crossed.
684
00:32:14,790 --> 00:32:16,500
Let's just pray to God
that, yes,
685
00:32:16,540 --> 00:32:18,410
her fairy-tale wedding
686
00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:20,910
and her fairy-tale life
is going to come true.
687
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,160
The image of Nicole has been
one of tragedy, even innuendo.
688
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,540
Seeing this wedding video for
the first time, we see Nicole,
689
00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:33,450
the real Nicole, as a sweet,
lovely, innocent young woman.
690
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,080
Nicole's wedding
was held at Rockingham.
691
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,580
Lou and Judi were very happy
about the marriage
692
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,540
and very happy at the occasion.
693
00:32:45,660 --> 00:32:49,700
-So pretty, wow.
-Look at you.
694
00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:52,330
ARNELLE:
She's not like our stepmother,
she like a best friend.
695
00:32:52,410 --> 00:32:53,830
JASON:
Yeah, like a special friend.
696
00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:55,330
ARNELLE:
Yeah, like a best friend.
697
00:32:55,410 --> 00:32:56,830
Because we've known her
for so long
698
00:32:56,910 --> 00:32:58,580
and we shared so much with her.
699
00:33:01,250 --> 00:33:05,040
PASTOR:
I trust that by the way
you value life,
700
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,830
that you will lead
Nicole to say,
701
00:33:09,910 --> 00:33:12,160
"Oh, God, I'm a woman
most fortunate.
702
00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:16,160
For out of all of this world,
O.J. has chosen me."
703
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,660
I don't know if it was a band
or DJ, I don't remember that,
704
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:21,370
but "We are Family" came on.
705
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:22,830
That-- I think it's
Sister Sledge--
706
00:33:22,910 --> 00:33:25,540
and all of us, the entire girls,
707
00:33:25,660 --> 00:33:27,000
and I think my dad, too.
708
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,330
And we just danced around,
holding hands,
709
00:33:29,370 --> 00:33:32,500
arms around each other, singing
the song "We are Family."
710
00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:35,000
And still, to this day,
when I hear that song,
711
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,500
I remember that night.
712
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,370
It was a great wedding.
713
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,000
I'll be-- I'll be good to you.
714
00:33:45,790 --> 00:33:47,500
They got married in February.
715
00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:50,000
Sydney was born in October.
716
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,000
So, Sydney could've been
a honeymoon baby.
717
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,830
She could have been
a pre-honeymoon baby.
718
00:33:56,910 --> 00:33:58,290
She loved
being pregnant, though,
719
00:33:58,370 --> 00:34:00,200
except for she got really heavy.
720
00:34:01,370 --> 00:34:03,540
Yeah, she got really heavy.
And he didn't like that.
721
00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:06,040
I think for her it was difficult
to be pregnant
722
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,250
only because he was
not nice to her
723
00:34:08,330 --> 00:34:09,830
when she was pregnant.
724
00:34:09,950 --> 00:34:12,410
He would always say,
725
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,000
"You've got such a fat ass,
why don't you go on a diet?"
726
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,250
She was pregnant.
727
00:34:18,370 --> 00:34:20,660
She was pregnant when
he would tell her that,
728
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:22,620
when he would, he would say
things like that,
729
00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:24,660
and she would turn around
and she would say,
730
00:34:24,750 --> 00:34:26,790
"I am carrying your baby.
731
00:34:26,870 --> 00:34:29,000
I am carrying your child."
732
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,950
I remember her telling me
one time,
733
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,870
she says, you know what?
You're so lucky
734
00:34:32,870 --> 00:34:34,200
that you don't have a husband.
735
00:34:34,290 --> 00:34:37,000
You don't have a person
telling you what to do.
736
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,620
We were talking about
delivering our babies
737
00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:45,160
and she said, "O.J. does not
want me to deliver vaginally."
738
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:48,450
And he did not want her nursing.
739
00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:52,080
I'm like, well, that's sick.
740
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,160
She said he wanted her
741
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:56,410
to keep the same body
that she had.
742
00:34:57,370 --> 00:34:59,500
I can't imagine any wife saying,
743
00:34:59,660 --> 00:35:02,700
"Oh, yeah, I'm gonna
have a C-section,
744
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:05,410
or I'm not gonna nurse
because you don't like it."
745
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:09,200
You can see how that--
those were all control things
746
00:35:09,330 --> 00:35:12,080
that he did with her.
747
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,620
I don't believe
that I had this baby.
748
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:17,370
O.J.:
Look at me.
749
00:35:17,450 --> 00:35:19,370
-We got a little girl.
-Do I have dopey eyes?
750
00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:21,080
O.J.:
Yeah, you seem
a little out of it.
751
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:28,410
Sydney was the first little
baby that came into this world.
752
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,500
She has lots of little hair
on her forehead.
753
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,120
We actually went to the hospital
754
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,580
when she gave the--
gave birth to the baby.
755
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:40,000
Everybody was there,
756
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,330
and everybody was very happy
for them.
757
00:35:41,410 --> 00:35:42,830
O.J.:
Hi, Robin. Say something.
758
00:35:42,910 --> 00:35:45,000
Hi. Congratulations.
759
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,700
I think her dream
was coming true.
760
00:35:48,830 --> 00:35:51,120
I love Sydney.
761
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,660
O.J.:
But she's doing okay?
762
00:35:52,750 --> 00:35:54,750
-Do you love her?
-O.J.: I love her very much.
763
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,450
DOMINIQUE:
Nicole decorated Sydney's room.
It was beautiful.
764
00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:08,250
She had those bassinets
when she was born.
765
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,250
Nicole asked me
to be Sydney's godmother.
766
00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:15,120
So when she was christened,
I became her godmother.
767
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,910
DOMINIQUE:
She was wearing that, like, uh,
768
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,410
-It doesn't work. (laughs)
-...faded-out or white...
769
00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:23,160
DOMINIQUE:
I think at that point,
770
00:36:23,290 --> 00:36:24,910
she had already seen that
771
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,620
I had a love for her,
a special love,
772
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,040
-Mm...
-(laughs)
773
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,870
(laughs)
Ah...
774
00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:34,160
Like a little cupcake.
775
00:36:34,250 --> 00:36:35,660
Flying Sydney.
776
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:39,620
Sydney likes the water.
777
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:42,290
-Big smile.
-DOMINIQUE: I love you.
778
00:36:42,370 --> 00:36:44,160
DOMINIQUE:
Love you.
779
00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:46,660
Hey, PS, Sydney.
780
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:49,250
When you watch this tape
when you get older,
781
00:36:49,370 --> 00:36:51,750
see that little quilt
you're laying on?
782
00:36:51,830 --> 00:36:53,700
Mommy made that for you.
783
00:36:53,790 --> 00:36:56,290
Sydney Brooke is here
down at the beach house,
784
00:36:56,370 --> 00:36:59,160
hanging out in the sand
with Denise, huh?
785
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:04,660
They bought the house
at Victoria Beach,
786
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:07,120
and they had
the gorgeous house down there.
787
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,450
So we were down there,
788
00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:10,370
of course, as often as we could,
789
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:13,540
because it was
right on the ocean.
790
00:37:15,870 --> 00:37:17,500
DENISE:
When she came down to Laguna,
791
00:37:17,580 --> 00:37:19,290
it was like she had
a smile on her face.
792
00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:22,910
She turned into the beach girl
that she was before.
793
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,950
She seemed to be happy.
794
00:37:30,580 --> 00:37:32,750
I'm, uh, Albert,
middle initial A,
795
00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:34,580
Aguilera.
796
00:37:34,660 --> 00:37:37,500
I was a pharmacist for 50 years.
797
00:37:37,540 --> 00:37:40,250
I moved to Blue Lagoon.
798
00:37:40,330 --> 00:37:42,790
Next door was Victoria Beach.
799
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:45,250
I knew they lived there,
but I hadn't seen them.
800
00:37:45,250 --> 00:37:47,080
We walked down to the beach--
801
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,040
it was on a Saturday--
802
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:54,540
and we saw O.J. Simpson
and his-his wife Nicole.
803
00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:58,660
She was facing him,
he was facing into the water,
804
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:03,620
and she was kind of, like,
animated in front of O.J.
805
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:05,500
We're going by,
and then, all of a sudden,
806
00:38:05,620 --> 00:38:08,330
he reached out and slapped her.
807
00:38:08,410 --> 00:38:11,250
With one arm,
he just knocked her down.
808
00:38:11,370 --> 00:38:13,660
Hit her face and she went down.
809
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:15,200
We kind of stood for a while
and walked a little way--
810
00:38:15,330 --> 00:38:17,290
but we kept looking.
811
00:38:17,370 --> 00:38:20,330
He bent down,
trying to console her.
812
00:38:20,370 --> 00:38:23,830
Really, he was trying
to stop her from crying,
813
00:38:23,950 --> 00:38:25,830
and she was having none of it.
814
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:28,790
And he just kept staring out
towards the ocean,
815
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:32,080
didn't look at the people
that were in back of him.
816
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,450
They were kind of, like,
all surprised.
817
00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:37,330
She seemed to me like sh--
when she was down
818
00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:40,000
and she was crying and
saying a few things to him--
819
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,080
i-it was inaudible to us--
820
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,660
that she was more or less hurt
that he even did that.
821
00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:50,370
Maybe...
822
00:38:50,450 --> 00:38:53,330
she was as surprised as we were.
823
00:38:53,410 --> 00:38:55,700
I would go to their beach house,
824
00:38:55,830 --> 00:38:58,450
and she'd be fixing dinner
and she'd have dogs there
825
00:38:58,540 --> 00:39:01,120
and kids running around
and so on.
826
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,870
And he just would come
827
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:05,830
and it would be like a black
cloud all of a sudden.
828
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:11,700
Uh, so...
829
00:39:11,830 --> 00:39:15,250
I'd hear about them
out, you know, during the day.
830
00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:17,830
You know, "Oh, did you hear that
they were at lunch at Toscana?
831
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:20,950
And "she had," you know,
"two glasses of wine,
832
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:22,790
and they were," you know,
"making out" or something--
833
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:25,330
you know, just basically
trying to keep,
834
00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:28,250
keep the flame alive
kind of thing.
835
00:39:28,370 --> 00:39:30,160
She kept herself
in very good shape,
836
00:39:30,250 --> 00:39:33,450
and it was almost like she
was competing with herself
837
00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:35,540
as well as others.
838
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:38,410
I heard about, you know,
the... the affair thing.
839
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,450
The Tawny Kitaen.
840
00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:43,500
REPORTER:
Her name is Tawny Kitaen,
841
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:45,830
a beautiful, sexy actress
who made her name
842
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:48,450
as the sizzling star
of music videos.
843
00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:49,830
These days, Tawny Kitaen
844
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:52,080
is most famous
for her frequently reported
845
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,580
off-screen relationship
with O.J. Simpson.
846
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:56,500
INTERVIEWER:
When did you meet O.J.
originally?
847
00:39:56,620 --> 00:40:01,120
TAWNY:
I met O.J. in '82. '82, '83.
848
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,870
INTERVIEWER:
And he was then with
Nicole Brown Simpson?
849
00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:05,830
-TAWNY: Yes, he was.
-They were still married?
850
00:40:05,830 --> 00:40:08,200
I think that went on
for a while.
851
00:40:08,290 --> 00:40:09,580
That affair.
852
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:12,830
During that time,
Nicole was pregnant with Justin
853
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:15,750
three months before me, and I
was pregnant with my son Aaron.
854
00:40:15,830 --> 00:40:19,580
Judi was aware of his cheating.
855
00:40:19,660 --> 00:40:22,500
Judi told me
who these people were.
856
00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:26,370
As Nicole became aware of...
857
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:31,410
...his cheating,
858
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,370
it disturbed her more and more,
859
00:40:33,450 --> 00:40:34,700
and she found it
more and more difficult,
860
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:37,040
as it would with any woman,
of course.
861
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,080
I remember driving around
with Nicole,
862
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,000
you know, trying to find,
you know, houses that he had
863
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,750
girlfriends put up in and,
you know, things like that.
864
00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:58,830
O.J.:
We're at the hospital.
865
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:02,160
I'm so ready to go home.
866
00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:04,290
I was just looking out the
window, waiting for you guys.
867
00:41:04,370 --> 00:41:07,120
JUDIE:
When she was in the hospital
giving birth,
868
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,160
her husband, O.J. Simpson,
869
00:41:09,290 --> 00:41:12,830
had someone in her house.
870
00:41:12,910 --> 00:41:16,160
And there were pictures
of Nicole all over,
871
00:41:16,250 --> 00:41:18,540
and he simply put them face down
872
00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:21,040
so that the woman
wouldn't see them.
873
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,540
Sick.
874
00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:27,950
-NICOLE: Look.
-O.J.: Oh, look.
And there's Corby.
875
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,000
♪
876
00:41:32,410 --> 00:41:34,870
(sighs)
877
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:36,450
Okay.
878
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,410
Going my way?
879
00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:53,830
You're gonna go that way,
towards the ocean.
880
00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:58,250
What did Daddy say
about one finger?
881
00:41:58,370 --> 00:42:00,450
Daddy said,
"One finger in the mouth."
882
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:02,120
One finger only.
883
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,790
DENISE:
Christmas, 1988,
my whole family decided
884
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:07,580
that we wanted to go
to Hawaii for Christmas.
885
00:42:07,660 --> 00:42:09,620
Actually, I think it was Nicole
886
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:11,660
who decided that we, you know,
887
00:42:11,790 --> 00:42:13,790
"Well, come on,
let's go to Hawaii."
888
00:42:13,870 --> 00:42:15,790
And I thought, "Why Hawaii?
889
00:42:15,870 --> 00:42:18,330
There's no snow in-in Hawaii."
(laughs)
890
00:42:18,370 --> 00:42:21,410
So we went over to Hawaii,
891
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:25,750
and it was really a great trip
until it wasn't.
892
00:42:30,830 --> 00:42:32,750
KELLY:
Do you recall any argument
893
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:35,330
between Nicole and O.J.
894
00:42:35,330 --> 00:42:37,330
during this vacation?
895
00:42:37,410 --> 00:42:39,790
A.C.:
It was more of a comment
that she made.
896
00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:42,660
We were all sitting
in-in a large dining room.
897
00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:44,290
KELLY:
Do you know where you were,
898
00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:46,000
-first of all?
-At a restaurant.
899
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,080
KELLY:
Who was there
at the restaurant with you?
900
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,660
A.C.:
All of us.
901
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:50,830
KELLY:
Okay, was this for lunch
or dinner?
902
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:51,830
A.C.:
I would say lunch.
903
00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,160
There was a gay couple
904
00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:54,750
that was sitting at the table,
905
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:58,080
and they just thought
Justin was just beautiful.
906
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,870
One of the guys, he kissed
Justin on the forehead...
907
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,580
...and it was, like,
so sweet and so nice.
908
00:43:08,660 --> 00:43:10,410
And as soon
as we walked outside,
909
00:43:10,540 --> 00:43:13,290
all hell broke loose.
910
00:43:13,370 --> 00:43:16,500
After Nicole had
911
00:43:16,580 --> 00:43:19,580
let the man hold the baby,
912
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:20,830
she took the baby back.
913
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:22,660
O.J. supposedly had said,
914
00:43:22,750 --> 00:43:25,330
you know, "Why did you have
that gay guy hold my baby?"
915
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:26,830
Or something like that.
And she says,
916
00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:28,410
"Why are you concerned
about him being gay?
917
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:30,080
Your father is gay."
918
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,950
And O.J. got very upset
with her.
919
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:44,290
JAMES:
People meet you in the streets
920
00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:47,200
and they always ask you
what it is to have a son,
921
00:43:47,290 --> 00:43:50,540
you know, as famous as O.J.
and how you feel about it.
922
00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:51,750
And I tell them,
923
00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:53,620
"I just relax and stretch
924
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:55,370
and break all the buttons
off my shirt
925
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:56,870
and have them
sewed on next week."
926
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,950
We're very proud of that.
927
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,660
And he was gonna fly off
the island that night.
928
00:44:01,830 --> 00:44:03,250
He was going--
He said, "I'm out of here."
929
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,870
DENISE:
"How could you let
a gay man kiss my son?"
930
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:13,290
She ran out of the car.
He was going crazy.
931
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:16,160
She ended up taking off
and going with my parents.
932
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,660
I couldn't get out of the car
anymore because he was driving
933
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:20,160
like a lunatic
in the parking lot.
934
00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:22,160
And then we ended up
going back to the hotel.
935
00:44:23,830 --> 00:44:25,540
As we were going back, I said,
936
00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:26,660
"Slow down."
937
00:44:26,750 --> 00:44:28,660
I said, "Slow down, calm down."
938
00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:30,160
I said,
"The guy didn't hurt him."
939
00:44:30,250 --> 00:44:32,660
I said, "It was nothing,
it was no big deal."
940
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:33,750
KELLY:
And when was the next time
941
00:44:33,830 --> 00:44:35,160
you spoke to Simpson?
942
00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:36,750
I think we all ended up
going out that night.
943
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,660
KELLY:
Did you speak to Simpson again
944
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:42,500
about what had happened
that day?
945
00:44:42,540 --> 00:44:43,660
No, I didn't.
946
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:45,200
Seemed like they were,
947
00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:47,290
you know,
they were sitting together.
948
00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:49,290
Seemed like, I guess whatever
difference that they had,
949
00:44:49,370 --> 00:44:50,790
they patched it up.
950
00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:54,870
DENISE:
The next day,
951
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:56,450
I saw her with a shirt,
952
00:44:56,540 --> 00:44:58,000
long-sleeve shirt on,
and I was like,
953
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,160
"Nicole, it's hot.
Why are you...?"
954
00:45:00,290 --> 00:45:02,540
She goes, "Oh, no, I'm just
gonna stay in the shade here,
955
00:45:02,660 --> 00:45:04,540
and I'm just gonna stay
with Justin."
956
00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:06,700
I knew he was pissed off, but I,
957
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:08,370
I didn't know anything else
that happened
958
00:45:08,450 --> 00:45:09,700
behind closed doors.
959
00:45:09,790 --> 00:45:11,830
I read in her diary afterwards
960
00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:13,500
that he had her up
against the wall
961
00:45:13,580 --> 00:45:15,370
over the balcony,
962
00:45:15,450 --> 00:45:19,160
doing the usual...
963
00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:22,330
hurting her
because of this incident.
964
00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:24,950
When we left Hawaii,
965
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,540
Nicole was going
to a New Year's Eve party.
966
00:45:26,620 --> 00:45:28,500
That's why we left.
967
00:45:28,580 --> 00:45:30,200
D'ANNE:
We were supposed to be having
our New year's Eve party
968
00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:32,830
and we got a telephone call
pretty late at night,
969
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:34,330
and it was Nicole.
970
00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:37,830
And she said, "We got
to drinking down the street
971
00:45:37,950 --> 00:45:40,330
"and so nobody can drive.
972
00:45:40,410 --> 00:45:42,580
So we're just gonna stay here
and party here."
973
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:44,910
"Oh, yeah, no problem.
Have a great time.
974
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,870
Happy New Year, la, la."
And we hung up.
975
00:45:47,950 --> 00:45:49,660
And then we, of course,
976
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:54,750
all woke up
to New Year's Day with news
977
00:45:54,830 --> 00:45:58,500
that Nicole was
at the police station
978
00:45:58,540 --> 00:46:00,830
and he had...
979
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,250
...hit her.
980
00:46:05,410 --> 00:46:06,540
DISPATCHER:
911 emergency.
981
00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:08,250
-(woman screams)
-DISPATCHER: Hello.
982
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,540
KELLY:
Had you seen Nicole
983
00:46:14,660 --> 00:46:15,790
-New Year's Eve?
-Yes, I did.
984
00:46:15,870 --> 00:46:17,750
She collapsed on it
and-and started yelling,
985
00:46:17,830 --> 00:46:19,500
"He's gonna kill me,
he's gonna kill me."
986
00:46:19,620 --> 00:46:21,330
She said she was frightened
you were going to kill her.
987
00:46:21,370 --> 00:46:22,660
No, she did not say that.
988
00:46:22,750 --> 00:46:25,660
The cost of staying
with O.J. Simpson
989
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:27,870
was too great for Nicole.
990
00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:29,000
ROBIN:
That's when she told me
991
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,120
she is going to leave O.J.
992
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,870
DOMINIQUE:
The thought of her being
with anybody else
993
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:34,000
did not do well with him.
994
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,290
My mom went straight
to the phone
995
00:46:36,370 --> 00:46:37,370
and called Nicole.
996
00:46:37,450 --> 00:46:38,540
It was as if she knew
997
00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:39,790
something was gonna happen.
998
00:46:39,870 --> 00:46:41,040
And something did happen.
999
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,500
NEWS REPORTER:
Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman
1000
00:46:44,580 --> 00:46:46,370
were found just after midnight.
1001
00:46:46,450 --> 00:46:49,120
NEWS REPORTER 2:
...dead from a knife wound
to her throat.
1002
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,660
DENISE:
He said,
"Your sister's been killed."
1003
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:53,000
And I said, "He did it."
1004
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,040
And he said, "Who?" (crying)
1005
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,950
I said... (sobbing)
1006
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,950
I said, "O.J. Simpson."
1007
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,290
JUDIE:
The police had spoken to us
and said, "We're watching him."
1008
00:47:02,410 --> 00:47:04,500
ROBIN:
We said,
"What is going on here?"
1009
00:47:04,580 --> 00:47:05,950
D'ANNE:
She said, "It's O.J.
1010
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,500
He's on the 405 freeway
coming down here to us."
1011
00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:11,040
Please don't forget the victim.
1012
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,660
There was such
an insatiable appetite
1013
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:15,950
from the public for details.
1014
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,910
Photographs and stories,
and on TV.
1015
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,660
We did everything we could do
1016
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:22,750
to protect those two kids.
1017
00:47:22,830 --> 00:47:25,830
The defense put on
this big smear campaign.
1018
00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:28,120
RON:
She went from being a victim
1019
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,120
of domestic violence and murder
to being a whore.
1020
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,830
FOREWOMAN (over TV):
We, the jury,
1021
00:47:31,870 --> 00:47:33,500
in the above entitled action
find the defendant
1022
00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:35,160
not guilty
of the crime of murder.
1023
00:47:35,290 --> 00:47:37,000
DENISE:
How could one person (bleep) up
1024
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,500
so many people's lives?
1025
00:47:38,580 --> 00:47:40,540
The fact that he is
a convicted wife batterer
1026
00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:43,080
means that he may present a rik
of harm to these children.
1027
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,830
PRODUCER:
Were you aware
1028
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:47,910
of events in Florida?
1029
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:51,000
There was close to
17 police reports we found.
1030
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,790
O.J. Simpson did receive MDMA.
1031
00:47:53,870 --> 00:47:55,700
He was a user.
1032
00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:57,330
Oh, my God.
1033
00:47:57,410 --> 00:48:01,200
DOMINIQUE: Those poor kids
have been through a lot.
1034
00:48:01,290 --> 00:48:02,700
Who was there to protect them?
1035
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:04,830
How do these children
1036
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:06,120
grow up to be normal
1037
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,580
if the person
that murdered their mother
1038
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:11,000
is caring for them?
1039
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,250
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