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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,359 Bulbs in the sink? 2 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,199 I've never seen that before. 3 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,359 You don't get this good without practice. 4 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,359 The minute he sets foot on these properties, 5 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,359 he's in control. It's his house. 6 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,359 It's outrageous. 7 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Not with just what he's done, but how long he's got away with it. 8 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,359 Nathan, that possible Minstead case the borough sent over - 9 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,559 when was that? Last night. 10 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,359 Colbridge Road in Bromley. 11 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,359 And what ruled it out, the victimology? Yeah. 12 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,720 We could do worse than give it a second look. 13 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,359 This is Gavin Forbes, son of the homeowner. 14 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,039 When I got back from the hospital, 15 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,039 I went to get a glass of orange from the fridge. 16 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,359 The carton was almost empty. 17 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,359 What, and you think the intruder might've helped himself? 18 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,359 It's the only explanation. 19 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,359 It's not that bloke attacking old ladies? 20 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,399 Yes, it is, I'm afraid. Oh, Jesus. 21 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,359 What is it, Gavin? 22 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,360 Mum's room is downstairs. 23 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Let's figure out how he got in. 24 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,719 Any luck? We've got him on camera. 25 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,719 Coming and going. 26 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,359 DNA on the orange carton is a 100% match for Minstead Man. 27 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,399 We're gonna need to widen our screening criteria. 28 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,359 That means more offences. 29 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,359 Well, so be it. But you haven't got the manpower. 30 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,399 Not when you're treating every offence like a murder. 31 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,359 Yeah. 32 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,360 Then something's got to change. 33 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,360 What are you thinking? 34 00:02:46,361 --> 00:02:48,360 It's too much. It's too late. 35 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,359 Good work, Nathan. 36 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,559 Taking a closer look. 37 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,359 Er, no, that was all Mr Sutton, boss. 38 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,360 Oh, well, the DNA from the juice carton 39 00:02:58,361 --> 00:03:01,359 would've linked them soon enough. Yes, it would. 40 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,359 What does needs a look at is the screening criteria, 41 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,359 cos if it's as flawed as this offence suggests, 42 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,359 we could be missing scores of Minstead crimes. 43 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,360 Such as? 44 00:03:10,361 --> 00:03:13,359 Burglaries with, er, no sexual assault. 45 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Burglaries with no attempt to engage with the homeowner. 46 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,399 Well, I'm confident we're not missing scores of crimes, Colin. 47 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,359 He's one man, but, of course... 48 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,359 the criteria will be reviewed. 49 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,360 OK. 50 00:03:25,361 --> 00:03:28,199 Can I have a word, Nathan? 51 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,360 Yes, guv. 52 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,360 With all respect, sir, we're not the bloody burglary squad. 53 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,360 They're acting like a murder squad, 54 00:03:39,361 --> 00:03:41,359 but they're dealing with four times the cases 55 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,360 on half the resources. 56 00:03:42,361 --> 00:03:45,199 Any manpower left over gets pissed up the wall 57 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,399 swabbing for DNA. 58 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,359 As an analyst, I can tell you, 59 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,399 if they're screening out legitimate Minstead cases, 60 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,359 that's chronic. 61 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,879 Maybe they ought to be a bloody burglary squad. 62 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,199 They're trying to find a bloody burglar, after all. 63 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,359 Did you hear what I said? 64 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,359 Incomplete data is bad data, 65 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,359 and bad data is diesel in a petrol car. 66 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,359 It's worse than nothing. Yeah, I get it. 67 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,359 They want to preserve and gather evidence, 68 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,879 but what's their underlying objective? 69 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,359 They don't need to prove new offences. 70 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,359 Once he's caught, the DNA from the historic offences 71 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,360 guarantees he goes down for life. 72 00:04:15,361 --> 00:04:18,359 Yeah. Yeah. We just need to find him, 73 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,359 and anything that doesn't serve that has got to stop. 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,040 Call it Minstead Lite. 75 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,359 That's good. 76 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,359 Actually, that's brilliant, I'm having that. 77 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,359 That's gonna be my pitch to Hamish - Minstead Lite. 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,720 Copyright Surrey Police, please. 79 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,359 Is that gonna be enough, though? How d'you mean? 80 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,359 Well, it might free up some manpower and time, 81 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,200 but what are they gonna do with it? More bloody swabbing? 82 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,360 Come in. 83 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,359 Richard? 84 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,359 Hello, Colin. Richard, when you get a moment, 85 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,359 could you trawl through all the recent burglaries in the area... 86 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,719 That took place at night, 87 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,359 involved elderly occupiers, 88 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,199 which we sent back to Borough? 89 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,360 Yes. 90 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,359 I can run you off a copy, if you like. 91 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,200 How d'you know I was gonna ask for that? 92 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,359 Well, truth is, a few of us have been worried 93 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,359 about the screening process for a while. 94 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,359 What, incomplete data is bad data? 95 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,360 Hmm. 96 00:05:30,361 --> 00:05:32,359 I call that the longlist. 97 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,359 OK. 98 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,359 Well, limited resources means 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,359 we can only focus on a limited number of cases. 100 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,359 That means burglaries without sufficient Minstead signatures 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,360 get returned to Borough. 102 00:05:42,361 --> 00:05:45,359 But that could be him? Yes. 103 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,359 And could potentially be the one where he slips up. 104 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,359 Which is why I keep my own expanded tally 105 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,559 alongside the official one. 106 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,359 But if even half of these are Minstead... 107 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,360 He's offending on a scale that nobody's publicly acknowledged. 108 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,359 Yeah, I will have a copy of that. 109 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,359 Sure, but... 110 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,199 Yeah, I didn't get it from you. 111 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,360 Thanks, Richard. 112 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,360 DCI Colin Sutton for Hamish Campbell. 113 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,399 You can go through. Thank you. 114 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,359 Current screening processes are excluding 115 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,360 genuine Minstead cases. How many are we talking? 116 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,359 Course, they might not all be him, 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,359 but there's no doubt the majority are. 118 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,360 Bloody hell. 119 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,199 What makes you so sure? 120 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,199 Cos there's nowhere else in the country 121 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,359 where burglaries with these specific hallmarks are occurring. 122 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,039 Nowhere. They check every morning, 123 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,359 so it's very hard to believe that there's two blokes out there 124 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,040 committing identical crimes in South-East London. 125 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,359 What do you propose? 126 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,359 To cope with the scale of his offending, 127 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,359 our response needs to change. 128 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,360 We need to be more, er, nimble, fleet-footed. 129 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,359 Sounds easier said than done. 130 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,399 Well, if it's a choice between depth and breadth, 131 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,879 then it has to be breadth. 132 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,359 Meaning? 133 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,359 New offences aren't treated as crimes to be fully investigated, 134 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,359 but as intelligence opportunities. 135 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,359 We make sure that we're caring for the victims, 136 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,359 but we focus our attention on aspects of the case 137 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,359 that could help us ID Minstead Man. 138 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,359 No need to generate all the actions the murder squad approach requires? 139 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,359 Reducing that workload will free them up 140 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,359 to assess all potential Minstead cases, 141 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,359 and it'll accelerate the DNA swabbing. 142 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,880 Call it Minstead Lite. 143 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,039 I like the sound of that. 144 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,360 One way or the other, I'll see it's implemented. 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,199 But we're still reliant on him making a mistake, 146 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,359 which so far he's shown no sign of doing. 147 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,359 Despite the depravity of his acts, his planning is meticulous. 148 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,359 You're not convinced this is the best way forward? 149 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,359 Well, I think it's better than what we have. 150 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,360 What do you really think? 151 00:08:00,361 --> 00:08:02,560 If you were starting from scratch, what would you do? 152 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,039 Ah, well, it's frustrating, really. 153 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,359 I haven't been able to devise a proper plan, not in ten days. 154 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,359 It's just too complex for quick fixes. 155 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,359 It's like, erm, do you remember that old joke 156 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,359 about a tourist going up to a farmer and saying, 157 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,360 "what's the best way to Dingle?" 158 00:08:19,361 --> 00:08:21,359 and he gets the reply, "Ah, well, now, 159 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,359 "if I was you, I wouldn't be starting from here." 160 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,359 That's pretty much where I think we are with it. 161 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Where would you start from? 162 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,360 I wrote this down at the very first meeting that I attended. 163 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,359 It's all about the DNA. 164 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,359 The DNA has slanted every avenue of enquiry that they have followed. 165 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,399 You and I both know that a mass swabbing programme 166 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,359 is very hard to pull off. 167 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,359 It's a tactic of last resort. 168 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,359 But they've got so much invested in the DNA, 169 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,359 that change has become unthinkable. 170 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,359 As an outsider looking in, I think there must be another way. 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,040 I just don't know what it is yet. 172 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,360 Will you hang around and give this some more thought, Colin? 173 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,359 If there is a change of direction, it can't come from me. 174 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,359 Simon's got so much invested in Minstead. 175 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,359 I can't walk in there and tell him it's all got to change. 176 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,360 It's awkward, I agree. 177 00:09:20,361 --> 00:09:22,359 No, it's not awkward, it's untenable. 178 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,399 I'll make sure we look after Simon if you tell me now 179 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,359 that you'll stick around and devise a workable alternative plan? 180 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,359 And by "stick around," 181 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,360 I mean past your retirement date if necessary. 182 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,360 Yes, course I will. 183 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:00,359 All right. 184 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,720 All right. 185 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,359 See anything you like, Diamanda? 186 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,359 Yeah. 187 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,360 The lighter. 188 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,360 Can I take a look? 189 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,360 What? 190 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,199 I think you're losing your touch. 191 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,360 Always coming in here empty-handed. 192 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,560 You're just like a fucking window shopper these days. 193 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Suit yourself. 194 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,360 All right, all right, all right. 195 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,200 Morning, sir. All right? 196 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,399 Guv - he hit Colbridge Road again last night. 197 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,360 What? Come on. 198 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Colin. 199 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Simon. 200 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,359 Most of the Minstead hallmarks present and correct. 201 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,360 He stole cash and jewellery, 202 00:12:02,361 --> 00:12:05,360 but he made no attempt to engage with the victims. 203 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,399 Victims? 204 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Yeah, another elderly couple. Shaken but unhurt. 205 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,359 Well, if targeting couples is becoming a thing, 206 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,360 we'll need to alter the screening criteria. 207 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,360 Colin? 208 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,359 Every time we're just hoping that this is the one where he slips up. 209 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,199 But he doesn't, so we wait for the next one, 210 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,359 and the next and the next one. 211 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,359 We've got to get ahead of him, Simon. 212 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,360 I don't disagree. 213 00:12:32,361 --> 00:12:34,399 But the first thing that needs to change is this 214 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,359 "we're not a bloody burglary squad" mantra. 215 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,879 I've never heard anyone say that, Colin. 216 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,359 Well, I have. And do you know what? 217 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,359 He IS a bloody burglar. 218 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,360 He's a bright one, and a weird one, but he's still a burglar. 219 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:57,360 No cordon, no house-to-house. 220 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,399 I read your report last night, Colin. 221 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,359 It's good work. 222 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,359 Minstead Lite takes effect from today. 223 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,359 Thank you. 224 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Look, erm... 225 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,719 ..I haven't told the others this yet, 226 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,039 but as of next week I have to go on restricted duties 227 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,399 because of my back, 228 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,360 so I'm gonna need an SIO who's really gonna be boots on the ground. 229 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,039 You want me to do it? 230 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,359 I've cleared it with Hamish. 231 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,359 Course, I'll still be in overall command. Yeah. 232 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,360 And on the end of a phone. Yeah, of course. 233 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,359 Going forward, fresh Minstead crimes will be viewed 234 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,359 as intelligence-gathering opportunities, 235 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,359 but not processed to the letter. 236 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,359 We'll exploit any lead that might identify him, 237 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,359 but otherwise dispense with statements, actions, 238 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,360 attend and bureaucracy. 239 00:13:50,361 --> 00:13:53,359 Nice one, boss. Yeah, that'll really free us up. 240 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,359 No, it's Colin's idea. Benefit of a fresh pair of eyes. 241 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,879 Well, let's hope something comes of it. 242 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,199 It's timely, 243 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,359 cos we need to widen the screening after the Colbridge Road offences. 244 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,359 Nathan. 245 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,359 Yeah, er, Minstead Man has now hit two residences 246 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,360 with multiple occupants, 247 00:14:09,361 --> 00:14:12,359 and in neither case has he engaged with his victims. 248 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,359 We're barely on top of our existing cases, 249 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,360 and we're adding more? 250 00:14:15,361 --> 00:14:17,359 Barely? We're not even touching the sides. 251 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,399 Well, now you'll have more time. Well, not much, guv. 252 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,359 Because we're also suspending DNA swabbing. 253 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,719 As of next week, 254 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,359 I have to go on restricted duties on account of my back, 255 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,359 so Colin will be taking over the day-to-day, 256 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,559 but reporting to me directly. Thank you, Simon. 257 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,359 Yeah, Mr Morgan will very much remain in command, 258 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,039 but I'm looking forward to working with you all much more closely. 259 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,359 And, apologies in advance if I'm still catching up 260 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,360 with what I appreciate is a vast and complex case. Thank you. 261 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,039 You'll be sorely missed, guv. Thanks, Kenny. 262 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,200 Won't be the same without you. 263 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,359 I want to mount limited surveillance around Colbridge Road. 264 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,359 He's hit there twice in two weeks. 265 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,359 If that's not provocation, I don't know what is. 266 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,039 He hits it a third time, we're gonna look seriously inept. 267 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,359 We'll look like we can't find our arse with both hands. 268 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,359 When you say "limited", do you mean low-key? 269 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Just a couple of blokes in cars? 270 00:15:07,361 --> 00:15:09,359 Yeah, maybe a van or two. 271 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,359 Yeah, he hasn't made a significant mistake in 17 years. 272 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Do you think he'll fall for it? 273 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,359 I think it's worth a punt. 274 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,359 Yeah and if he doesn't risk a third go-round, 275 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,359 then no harm done. Yeah, we had it covered. 276 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,720 Exactly. Set it up. Nice one, guv. 277 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,039 Sorry I'm late, boss. 278 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,359 Informant kept me waiting. 279 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,359 Best ones always do. OK, what've you got? 280 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,359 Well, I showed my snout the jewellery pics. 281 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,359 She reckons she's seen the silver necklace 282 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,359 belonging to the Allenhall Road victim, Sandra Nelson. 283 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,399 Where's she seen it? 284 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,359 Pawn shop in Forest Hill. 285 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,879 Do you trust her? 286 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,359 Oh, wouldn't go that far, but here you are. 287 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,360 She sneaked a photo. 288 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,359 That looks like the same necklace to me. 289 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,559 Now, the owner is a Brian Royce, 290 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,359 and he should've taken the details of the seller, 291 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,359 but even if he didn't, there's cameras inside and out. 292 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,359 So, potentially, this Brian Royce could give us Minstead Man's name? 293 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,359 Potentially, but Royce does have a history of non-cooperation. 294 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,360 So, why haven't you picked him up? 295 00:16:06,361 --> 00:16:09,719 Well, er, cos he's also got form for GBH. 296 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Team effort, I think, guv. 297 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,359 I'll leave this for you, Colin, I think. 298 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,360 I can certainly help with the stab vests. 299 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,359 All units, all units. 300 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,359 'Be aware, I have eyes on the suspect 301 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,359 'approaching the pawn shop on foot from the high street end.' 302 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,359 If it's safe, we take him before he enters the shop. 303 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,359 'Copy that.' 304 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,360 He's just approaching the shop now. Move in. 305 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:19,360 Go. Take him. 306 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:25,360 Morning, Brian. 307 00:17:25,361 --> 00:17:27,359 Now, behave yourself. What's going on? 308 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:29,879 I'm arresting you on suspicion of handling stolen goods. 309 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,359 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 310 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:34,359 if you fail to mention when questioned 311 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,360 something which you later rely on in court. 312 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:43,360 Who sold you this, Brian? 313 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:47,360 No comment. 314 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,359 Well, we know the sale's very recent. 315 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,200 Last few days. 316 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:56,360 'No comment.' 317 00:17:56,361 --> 00:17:59,360 'This man's done some terrible things.' 318 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:02,359 He's not someone you want to protect, 319 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,360 not someone you want to be associated with. 320 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,359 But if you don't tell us, the cameras in your shop will. 321 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,359 We're viewing that footage right now. 322 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:15,880 There's no downside in co-operating. 323 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:20,360 Who sold you the necklace, Brian? 324 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:23,039 We need a name. 325 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,039 Otherwise we'll have to re-focus our inquiry 326 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,400 onto the provenance of every piece of jewellery in your shop, say. 327 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:35,359 I'd like to take a break, so I can speak to my lawyer. 328 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:37,199 Of course. 329 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,359 'Interview paused at...' Scared, isn't he? For a tough guy? 330 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:41,360 Hmm. 331 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,559 Got to be somewhere? Oh, it's just a family thing. 332 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,359 Go, I'll call if anything changes. 333 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:50,360 Thanks, Nathan. 334 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:53,360 Oh, hang on. 335 00:18:53,361 --> 00:18:56,560 'You said he'd done some terrible things?' 336 00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,360 What kind of things? 337 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:04,359 He's a serial rapist who targets elderly women. 338 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,359 The Night Stalker? 339 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:08,040 The Old Dear Hunter? 340 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,360 'Yeah.' 341 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:13,360 'You're barking up the wrong tree, love. 342 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,040 'I'd have given you his name in a fucking heartbeat.' 343 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,359 I found these two loitering with intent. 344 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:35,359 Oh! Sorry we're late. 345 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:39,359 Oh, don't be silly. 346 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,359 All right, Dad? These wings are done. 347 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:43,560 Er... yeah, they are, yeah. 348 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,359 How are you, Dad? 349 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,360 How are YOU, is more to the point. 350 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,360 I hear you're busy again. Yeah. Yeah, I am. 351 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:54,360 Watch your back. 352 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:58,359 I know things have changed since my day. 353 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:00,879 There you go, have a beer. Oh, thank you. 354 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,360 The grass is always greener, isn't it? 355 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:08,359 Taking over someone else's case is always a bit messy. 356 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:10,359 I'm not taking over, I'm just helping out. 357 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:13,359 Oh, yeah? Oh yeah, your mum picked this up for you. 358 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:16,040 I did not! Oh, yes, you did. 359 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:20,360 It's an early birthday present, isn't it? 360 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:32,039 I've finally got my way about a cruise. 361 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,359 You haven't! 362 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:35,359 Christ! 363 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,359 Only took me 20 years. 364 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,359 Why the change of heart, Dave? What change of heart? 365 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:41,879 You're going, aren't you? 366 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,359 I always say being shut up on the high seas 367 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:48,359 with a bunch of numpties sounds like a nightmare, 368 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:52,360 only now I'll be able to say so with authority! 369 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:57,360 I won't be a moment. 370 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:00,560 I bet you'll enjoy it. 371 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,359 'Yes, guv?' Any luck with that necklace? 372 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,360 'Lab just called.' 373 00:21:11,361 --> 00:21:14,399 Three sets of female DNA on the chain and clasp, 374 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,360 not one is a match to Sandra Nelson. 375 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:20,359 So it's probably not her necklace, then? 376 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:22,360 I really think it's a coincidence, guv. 377 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:26,359 What about Brian Royce? 'Sticking to his story.' 378 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,359 Won't tell us where he got the necklace, 379 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,359 but insists it wasn't Minstead Man. 380 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,360 All right. OK, thanks, Nathan. 381 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:40,360 Now, make sure you lock the front door 382 00:21:40,361 --> 00:21:43,199 and bolt the French windows, eh? 383 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,039 If your man tries breaking into ours, 384 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,199 it'll be the last thing he does. 385 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,879 Oh, blimey, have a word, Mum, will you? 386 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,360 Bye, love. Bye-bye. 387 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,359 Bye-bye. Take care of yourself. Bye-bye. 388 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:01,360 Night-night. 389 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,360 Bye. 390 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:16,360 Nathan? 391 00:22:16,361 --> 00:22:19,359 'Just had local CID on the phone. He's gone berserk. 392 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,359 'Hit three homes in the last two hours, 393 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:23,359 'and we're hearing reports of a fourth.' 394 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:26,359 Colbridge Road? 'Miles away - Thornton Heath.' 395 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:28,359 Are you short-handed? 'That's an understatement.' 396 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:29,879 All right, I'll try and get you a HAT team. 397 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,359 'No, I already tried. 398 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:33,359 'Busy with a fatal stabbing in Lambeth.' 399 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,359 Where are you? 'Boss, you don't...' 400 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,360 I'll be an extra pair of hands. Where are you? 401 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:55,360 Nathan. 402 00:22:55,361 --> 00:22:57,359 Boss. 403 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:02,559 The victim is an 85-year-old male, a Mr Tomczyk, and get this - 404 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,359 he insists he was burgled by the same man three months ago. 405 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,359 Is there a record of that offence? 406 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:10,359 Yeah, local CID sent it our way. 407 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:13,359 I see. We sent it back cos it didn't have Minstead's MO? 408 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,359 Correct. 409 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:18,359 Mr Tomczyk's in the garden. He didn't want to be inside, 410 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,879 and doesn't want to go to hospital. He was very clear about that. 411 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,359 OK. Is this where he got in? Yes, guv. 412 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:24,360 Anything? 413 00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:27,359 The tool marks look very much like our man's favourite screwdriver. 414 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,360 Microscope analysis should confirm. 415 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,359 Mr Tomczyk? 416 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:51,360 This is Mr Sutton, he's in charge. 417 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,359 How do you do, Mr Tomczyk? 418 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:58,359 I'm very sorry to hear about the ordeal you've had tonight. 419 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:00,559 Are you sure you wouldn't like us to drive you to the hospital 420 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,359 just to make sure? 421 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,559 I was in war, Mr Sutton. 422 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,359 You go to hospital when you are shot, 423 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,359 or when you step on a mine and your foot is hanging off. 424 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,360 Fair enough. 425 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,360 I understand you think you've been burgled by this man before? 426 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,359 I don't think it, I know it. 427 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:24,399 Did you recognise him? 428 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,359 His voice. His smell. 429 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:30,879 The way he sat there watching me through his mask. 430 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,879 I said, "Oh, hello, it's you again." 431 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,359 What did he say? 432 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,359 He asked me for money. I said no. 433 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:41,360 He said he would hurt me if I did not give it to him. 434 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:46,039 So, I, er... I gave him some cash. 435 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,200 I think that was a good idea. 436 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,720 Yes and no. 437 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,359 When I opened wallet, he saw bank card. 438 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,359 And he took that as well? 439 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:57,360 He asked me for PIN. 440 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,360 No way was I giving him the right number... 441 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,359 ..and I reckoned you would be here before he knew I'd tricked him. 442 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,360 Oh. You're a very brave man. 443 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:19,360 After you give him the PIN, did he leave? 444 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:26,879 When I was in the army, I was boxer. 445 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:33,359 They called me Kon Roboczy, which means "workhorse" in Polish. 446 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:37,360 I wasn't strongest, I wasn't fastest... 447 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,360 ..but I was stubborn. 448 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,360 I stayed on my feet whatever... 449 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,360 ..whatever they threw at me. 450 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:56,360 He didn't leave after you gave him the PIN, did he? 451 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359 I don't want to talk about it. 452 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:10,360 No. No, I understand. 453 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,360 When you do feel ready, 454 00:26:14,361 --> 00:26:18,399 Patricia here is a very, very good listener. 455 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,360 In fact, she's so good, we pay her to do it. 456 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:25,360 Thank you. 457 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:27,360 Cup of tea? 458 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:31,360 Have you got a map? 459 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,359 Yeah, in the car. 460 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:38,359 Mr Tomczyk gave him the wrong PIN for his credit card. 461 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,359 Good on him. 462 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:43,199 Yeah. Well, he must know that we'll stop the card, 463 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,039 so he couldn't use it ASAP. 464 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,359 I'm assuming he has a favourite bank machine? 465 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:48,360 Yeah, a couple. 466 00:26:48,361 --> 00:26:50,039 Well, what's the nearest one? 467 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,360 Erm... 468 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,359 There. 469 00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:58,399 Yeah, it's close. Who've we got up and about? 470 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,359 Kenny and Cath attended the first and second. 471 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,359 Adam and Neville went to the third. 472 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,359 Right. Well, they're closer than us, then. 473 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,359 Tell them I want them all watching that cash machine, 474 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,360 and they don't leave until I say so. Right. 475 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:39,559 How far? Two minutes. 476 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,200 We can take a shortcut. Left here. 477 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,200 Fuck's sake, Kenny! 478 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,360 Downshire Gardens. 479 00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:18,360 It's a cross street. Right at the end, and you're there. 480 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,400 We should have a view of the cash machine... there. 481 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,559 Well, there's our Ken. 482 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360 Oh, bollocks! Nice one. 483 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,360 How Special Branch didn't snap him up, I'll never know. 484 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Come on, you bastard. Come and get it. 485 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,359 Yeah, I'll let him know. He's just arrived. 486 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,560 Yeah. OK, cheers. 487 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,879 I thought we were watching and waiting? 488 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,039 Too late, boss. We missed him. What? 489 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,359 Financial boys just called. 490 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,359 He tried to get cash out of there right before we got here. 491 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,359 We must've missed him by seconds. Oh, fuck! 492 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,359 Did the machine swallow his card? No. 493 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,359 Well, he might've discarded it nearby, then. 494 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Close but no cigar, eh? 495 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,359 I'm kidding. Good punt, sir. 496 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,359 Trip down memory lane, coming back here. 497 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Why, did you attend before? 498 00:30:05,361 --> 00:30:07,359 And the two times before that. 499 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,359 Yeah, he seemed to like that machine so much, 500 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,359 we went proactive. Oh, yeah? 501 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,359 We arranged for hidden cameras to be installed near the ATM 502 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,360 just in case he returned. 503 00:30:15,361 --> 00:30:16,719 It was the guv'nor's idea, as I recall. 504 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,359 And you didn't think to mention that before? 505 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,359 Well, I'm mentioning it now, aren't I? 506 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,039 Are they still there? Are they working? 507 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,879 TSU are en route to retrieve the footage. 508 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,359 We're gonna get a look at Minstead Man, a proper look. 509 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,359 If you'd got here five minutes sooner, 510 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,360 he'd be in fucking handcuffs! 511 00:30:31,361 --> 00:30:34,359 I'm not sure that's fair, boss. No, it's not. 512 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,359 All right, look, we've had the nearest of near misses. 513 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,359 It's infuriating and it hurts, but we move on. 514 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,520 Let's see what the TSU bring. 515 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,359 They're in the phone box. Eh? 516 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,360 The cameras. 517 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,359 At 12:36am, he walks briskly from Lessing Street, 518 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,359 makes a couple of "lifesaver" glances behind, 519 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,720 as he approaches the ATM. 520 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,359 Erm... this is from the second camera. 521 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,359 Looks like he's wearing some kind of blue cagoule. 522 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,360 Yeah, he wears it well. 523 00:31:10,361 --> 00:31:13,359 Zipped up to his nose, and hood pulled over his face. 524 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,359 Is that the best shot we've got of him? 525 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,360 Yeah. He's nothing if not cautious. 526 00:31:16,361 --> 00:31:19,879 Well, maybe there's other things we can glean beyond his appearance. 527 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,359 Like what? I don't know, Adam, 528 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,719 but there's two cameras there. There's got to be something. 529 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,359 What about his exit route? 530 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,200 Yeah, let's have a look at that, Cathy. 531 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,359 Whoa, hang on a minute. That's us! 532 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,359 Neville, that's... fucking us, mate. 533 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,359 If we'd have gotten there 30 seconds earlier... 534 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,359 That's spilt milk, Adam. Cathy? 535 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,879 When he gives up on the ATM, 536 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,879 he doesn't go in the direction he came. 537 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,359 He heads west. 538 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,359 Right, what road's that? 539 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,559 It's Ballina Street. 540 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,559 Right. So, applying a bit of street tradecraft, 541 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,359 what do we think? He's arriving by car? 542 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,039 Well, there's no way he got there that fast any other way. 543 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,359 And not at that time of night. So, where's he parked? 544 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,359 Well, based on his approach, 545 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,359 I'd say near the top end of Lessing Street. 546 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,359 Maybe Flintock Street. 547 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,359 Agreed, but then he goes off in a different direction. 548 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,360 So, how's he getting back to his car? 549 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,359 What about here? 550 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,879 There's a little cut-through further down Ballina Street. 551 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,359 Crosses back under the railway bridge 552 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,359 and comes out on Flintock Street. Loop the loop. 553 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,199 Back in his car in two minutes, guv. 554 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,359 Entrance is about 200 yards west of the ATM. 555 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,359 We did look at putting a camera on it. 556 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,359 Yeah. That's the cut-through there. 557 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,359 Looks like the bushes extend all the way down. 558 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,359 If you were looking to ditch a hot bank card, 559 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,359 it beats a bin or a drain cover, doesn't it? 560 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,359 Kenny, I want a POLSA team down there this afternoon, OK? 561 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,360 Yes, boss. All right, good work everyone. Well done. 562 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,359 Can I have a word, boss? Yeah, sure. 563 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,359 I mean before we get in a POLSA team. 564 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,360 Hang on one, Kenny. 565 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,040 Mr Morgan called for an update earlier. 566 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,359 Right. Do you know why he called you and not me? 567 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,359 I think he said your phone was busy. 568 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,039 Go on. 569 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,359 Well, I told him about him using his favourite ATM again. 570 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,359 OK? 571 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,800 He doesn't want us making a big fuss. 572 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,359 Says it might put him off returning, 573 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,359 and those cameras weren't cheap to install. 574 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,520 And how's he defining a fuss? 575 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,359 He specifically said not to get in a POLSA team. 576 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,360 With respect, that's not his call. 577 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,359 Right, well... 578 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,360 Can you ring him and tell him that, please? 579 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,359 That's not a conversation I want to have, not now. 580 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,359 Then you're putting me in a difficult position. 581 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,359 That's not my intention. 582 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,359 Right, so call him. Look, I know, he's your boss. 583 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,359 It's not about that. Well, what is it about? 584 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,359 Loyalty. I'm his number two, he trusts me. 585 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,359 I'm not about to betray that trust for someone I've known five minutes. 586 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,879 No offence. 587 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,360 None taken. You've welcomed me like no-one else on this team. 588 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,359 Right, well, now you can return the favour. 589 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,559 No, sorry. I'm the acting SIO on this, 590 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,359 and my decision is that we search that cut-through. 591 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,559 If there's any problem, I'll be sure he knows you gave me the message, 592 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,360 and I ignored it. It's on me. 593 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,360 OK. 594 00:34:18,361 --> 00:34:20,359 Be worth it for the chance of some evidence, 595 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,360 cos, Christ, we need something. 596 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,360 Go on, then, Kenny. Call 'em up. 597 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,880 He's here. 598 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,360 Found a bank card. 599 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,039 Looks weather-damaged. 600 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,359 I'd be surprised if it was stashed there last night. 601 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,359 It's a different name as well. Mrs A Waynflete. 602 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,359 Anne Waynflete? Yeah. 603 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,359 She a Minstead victim? 604 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,559 Yeah, two years ago. 605 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,359 And did he use this card in that ATM two years ago? 606 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,359 Well, looks like. 607 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,199 Thanks, Tabs, good work. Thank you. 608 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,359 Well, if they'd have searched this place two years ago, 609 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,879 they might've got prints and DNA. Still might. 610 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,039 Not after two years' weather damage. Not a chance. 611 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,359 In fairness, she didn't report a card being stolen. 612 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,359 I took her statement, guv. 613 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,720 If you've got any other questions, I'll be happy to help. 614 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,360 Yes, thank you. 615 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,880 If you want somewhere bigger, just say. 616 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,360 Nah. Feels like home now. 617 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,360 What's on your mind? 618 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,359 Errol Dobson. 619 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,359 Can you get the team together, please? 620 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,360 Yeah, sure. Thanks, Nathan. 621 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,359 Errol Dobson was a prolific burglar of the elderly 622 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,360 in the early nineties. 623 00:36:24,361 --> 00:36:27,359 He was even more prolific than Minstead Man. 624 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,359 He also favoured the night, and he'd been at it for years. 625 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,399 His patch was only small, 626 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,359 just a dozen or so streets in Tottenham. 627 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,359 That just made it all the more galling 628 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,359 when we couldn't catch him. 629 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,359 Some of the team lost faith, you know. 630 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,359 They said, "How can one man be responsible for so many offences?" 631 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,359 We were chasing a phantom or a ghost. 632 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,359 And everything we tried, everything failed, 633 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,360 until my boss went proactive. 634 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,359 What did that involve? 635 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,359 Cobbling together 30 bodies and saturating those streets. 636 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,359 We knew how sharp he was, so we had to stay well hidden. 637 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,559 There was no hunkering down in the passenger seat. 638 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,359 D'you get him? Night five. Caught in the act. 639 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,359 And that is how we'll catch Minstead Man. 640 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,400 Are you serious? 641 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,359 If you've got a better idea, Kenny, I'm all ears. 642 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,359 But we're not looking at a corner of Tottenham, guv. 643 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,359 Looking at most of South London from the Thames to the M23. 644 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,359 He's right. And we tried going proactive before. 645 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,359 Yes, I know you have, 646 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,359 and Simon agrees it's worth another shot. 647 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,359 By his own admission, that effort was hampered by resources. 648 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,359 And this time it won't be? 649 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,359 We just need a bigger boat. Ocean liner. 650 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,359 Fucking aircraft carrier. 651 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,359 Yeah, I'm not feeling this, er, boat analogy. 652 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,359 It's from Jaws. Yeah, thanks, Cathy. 653 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,359 No, what I mean is that boat doesn't exist. 654 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,719 It'd take hundreds of officers. 655 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,359 You'd get to keep 'em for two nights max. 656 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,560 This is a bloke who stopped dead for three years. 657 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,359 You finished? 658 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,359 I'm just saying. 659 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,359 No, they're good points, well made. 660 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,719 But we have to try something new, Adam. We have to. 661 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:07,359 Now, analysis can shave down the target area, right, Richard? 662 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,359 To a degree. How? 663 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,359 Well, he never goes for flats, local authority, social housing. 664 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,359 It's always private dwellings - houses, bungalows. 665 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,359 What, that's it? 666 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,879 And there's the crimes themselves. The way they're clustered. 667 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,359 Oh, come on. He's offended all over! 668 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,359 Yeah, he has. But going back '92, there's a density of offending 669 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,879 in the Shirley area 670 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,879 that makes it what we call an anchor point. 671 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,359 His hunting ground of choice. 672 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,359 Yeah, and that's the patch where we're most likely 673 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,360 to catch him in the act. 674 00:38:36,361 --> 00:38:38,359 From there we build out a map 675 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,359 of other target areas around Shirley. 676 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,360 Might be a square mile, might be a single street. 677 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,359 This map - what are we supposed to do with it? 678 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,359 We refine it, we cost it, 679 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,359 and then we flog it to the Force Tasking Group. 680 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,359 No-one else can fund an operation of this scale. 681 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,360 And then we go out and nick him. 682 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,359 Sorry, guv, I was with Mr Tomczyk. 683 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,360 How's he doing? 684 00:39:01,361 --> 00:39:03,359 Oh, OK under the circumstances. 685 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,360 He told me what happened, so that's a start. 686 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,719 And? 687 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,359 The offender fondled his genitals, 688 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,359 and after threats of violence, forced him to touch his own. 689 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,559 Oh, God. 690 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,359 My sense is that was the extent of the sexual contact. 691 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,359 I'll be able to say that with more confidence 692 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,359 after another session. 693 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,360 Poor man. Yeah. 694 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,360 And you. 695 00:39:27,361 --> 00:39:29,360 How long have you been on Minstead? 696 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,360 Five years. 697 00:39:32,361 --> 00:39:34,359 It's a lot of victims. 698 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,359 It's gonna take its toll. 699 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,559 I'm like anyone, boss. There's good days and bad. 700 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,359 Yeah, but you're at the sharp end, aren't you? 701 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,359 Oh, at first it was just finding the... vocabulary 702 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,359 to coax the information we needed. 703 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,359 Finding other ways to say "What happened?, 704 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,359 "What did he do to you?" 705 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,359 I used to pause the interviews 706 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,359 so they wouldn't see how upset I was. 707 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,359 Then I was dealing with their children, 708 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,879 and oh, God, that was a whole other thing. 709 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,360 In what way? 710 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,359 First, there's just breaking it to them. 711 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,359 Telling a son or daughter that their mum's been sexually assaulted. 712 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,359 Then you see the dynamics change. 713 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,359 The kids become the parents, 714 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,559 and these... wonderful, totally autonomous adults 715 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,359 become dependent, become the kids. 716 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,559 Hard not to get emotionally involved. 717 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,359 Hmm. Lately I've been going from funeral to funeral 718 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,359 with this terrible sadness, and I won't lie - fury, 719 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,360 that they won't see justice done. 720 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,360 When it's all over, it will hit me, I know it will. 721 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,400 I'm almost looking forward to it. 722 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,360 Richard? 723 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,359 Thanks for backing me up in there. 724 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,039 Hope I didn't come across as a total chancer. 725 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,359 Well, we are taking a chance, aren't we? 726 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,719 Yeah. Yeah, a big one. 727 00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,359 I want you to book me a meeting room 728 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,399 at Scotland Yard next Monday. No problem. 729 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,359 And I want your help with an email. Concise as possible, 730 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,879 but that conveys the rate and gravity of the offences, 731 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,359 and the need to take urgent action. 732 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,359 Yeah, sure. It'll come from the heart. 733 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,719 Who's it for? 734 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,559 Heads of all the squads that can give us a chance 735 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719 with the Force Tasking Group. 736 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:18,359 Oh, you'll need it. FTG reject 92% of funding requests. 737 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,360 Better make that email count, then, eh? 738 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,360 You definitely said Monday? 739 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,360 Only just coming up to ten. 740 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,360 Reminds me of my eighth birthday party. 741 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,359 Neville? 742 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,359 'He was out last night. Lady of 70 in Coulsdon. 743 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,359 'He started assaulting her, and she begged him to stop. 744 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,359 'She says he did. Whether or not that's true, TBC.' 745 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,360 Is Patricia with her? 746 00:41:58,361 --> 00:42:01,359 'Yeah, as we speak.' All right. Thanks, Neville. 747 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,359 Keep me posted. 748 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,720 Boss. 749 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,360 Colin? 750 00:42:07,361 --> 00:42:11,359 Superintendent Jackie Miller and DCI Greg Burns, Covert Policing. 751 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,359 Good to meet you. Thanks so much for coming. 752 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,359 Well, it was a compelling email. 753 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,359 Oh. Oh, good. Come on in. Come on in. This way. 754 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,359 Get dry. Morning. Cup of tea? Cup of coffee? Morning. 755 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,359 I've never made a request to the Force Tasking Group, 756 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,359 but I understand that many of you here are regular bidders, 757 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,039 and I hear that one of you even saw some money once. 758 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,199 Yeah, that was me. 759 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,359 Fucking cheque bounced. 760 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,359 So, we're here to listen and to learn. 761 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,359 I'm a big believer in laying out the plan 762 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,359 in frankly idiot-proof language. I'd say something like, 763 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,359 "By observing every inch of the targeted streets, 764 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,359 "you're seeking to control them." 765 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,039 No-one will be able to walk in or out without you seeing them. 766 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,399 If Minstead Man steps on your plot, you will get him, no ifs no buts. 767 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,199 That means no officers walking around the plot. 768 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,359 Everyone needs to be inside a building. 769 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,879 I'd also suggest having surveillance teams on standby 770 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,359 just outside the plot. 771 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,879 If a suspect needs to be questioned, 772 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,039 they can be tailed and pulled over well away from the target area. 773 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,359 Yeah, that's crucial. You don't want word getting out 774 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,360 that there's surveillance going on in Shirley. 775 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,359 We'd be very happy to supply air support 776 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,399 for whatever mission you end up running. 777 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,359 We can watch from an altitude 778 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,560 and be completely undetectable from the ground. 779 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,359 Kevin and I run Central Control. 780 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,359 We can have access to 24/7 live feeds 781 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,360 from thousands of Local Authority and Transport For London cameras. 782 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,360 Looking at your proposed plot, 783 00:44:08,361 --> 00:44:11,720 you'd need at least 150 bodies to throw a net over that. 784 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,720 Right. Which you'll never get. 785 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,360 There is a smaller area I've devised... 786 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,359 ..here in and around Shirley. 787 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,360 Still big, but more achievable. 788 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,359 75 officers should be able to deliver that. 789 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,359 And what are our chances of getting that? 790 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,359 If you ask for 150 officers, they'll probably give you 50. 791 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,359 But if you ask for 75, and you make a good case, 792 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,199 you might get 75. 793 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,399 If we shrink the plot, 794 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,399 the odds of him offending obviously shrink, too. 795 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,359 By how much? Well, based on past offences, 796 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,360 they drop from one in three to one in six. 797 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,360 One in six. 798 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,359 You know what? 799 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,359 They're still good odds. I'll take that. 800 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,199 So, when do you pitch to the FTG? 801 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,359 Well, now I know what to ask for, as soon as possible. 802 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,359 Listen - thank you. 803 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,359 Thank you all for your support and your expertise. 804 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,359 I just want to say how much it means 805 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,199 that so many of you responded and clearly care about this case 806 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,360 and its many, many victims. 807 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,360 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 58482

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