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Bulbs in the sink?
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I've never seen that before.
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You don't get this
good without practice.
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The minute he sets foot
on these properties,
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he's in control.
It's his house.
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It's outrageous.
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Not with just what he's done, but
how long he's got away with it.
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Nathan, that possible Minstead
case the borough sent over -
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when was that? Last night.
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Colbridge Road in Bromley.
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And what ruled it out,
the victimology? Yeah.
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We could do worse than
give it a second look.
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This is Gavin Forbes,
son of the homeowner.
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When I got back
from the hospital,
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I went to get a glass of
orange from the fridge.
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The carton was almost empty.
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What, and you think the intruder
might've helped himself?
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It's the only explanation.
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It's not that bloke
attacking old ladies?
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Yes, it is, I'm
afraid. Oh, Jesus.
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What is it, Gavin?
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Mum's room is downstairs.
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Let's figure out how he got in.
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Any luck? We've
got him on camera.
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Coming and going.
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DNA on the orange carton is a
100% match for Minstead Man.
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We're gonna need to widen
our screening criteria.
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That means more offences.
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Well, so be it. But you
haven't got the manpower.
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Not when you're treating
every offence like a murder.
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Yeah.
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Then something's got to change.
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What are you thinking?
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It's too much. It's too late.
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Good work, Nathan.
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Taking a closer look.
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Er, no, that was
all Mr Sutton, boss.
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Oh, well, the DNA
from the juice carton
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would've linked them soon
enough. Yes, it would.
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What does needs a look at
is the screening criteria,
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cos if it's as flawed as
this offence suggests,
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we could be missing
scores of Minstead crimes.
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Such as?
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Burglaries with, er,
no sexual assault.
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Burglaries with no attempt
to engage with the homeowner.
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Well, I'm confident we're not
missing scores of crimes, Colin.
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He's one man, but, of course...
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the criteria will be reviewed.
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OK.
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Can I have a word, Nathan?
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Yes, guv.
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With all respect, sir, we're
not the bloody burglary squad.
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They're acting like
a murder squad,
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but they're dealing with
four times the cases
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on half the resources.
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Any manpower left over
gets pissed up the wall
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swabbing for DNA.
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As an analyst, I can tell you,
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if they're screening out
legitimate Minstead cases,
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that's chronic.
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Maybe they ought to be
a bloody burglary squad.
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They're trying to find a
bloody burglar, after all.
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Did you hear what I said?
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Incomplete data is bad data,
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and bad data is diesel
in a petrol car.
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It's worse than
nothing. Yeah, I get it.
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They want to preserve
and gather evidence,
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but what's their
underlying objective?
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They don't need to
prove new offences.
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Once he's caught, the DNA
from the historic offences
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guarantees he goes
down for life.
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Yeah. Yeah. We just
need to find him,
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and anything that doesn't
serve that has got to stop.
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Call it Minstead Lite.
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That's good.
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Actually, that's
brilliant, I'm having that.
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That's gonna be my pitch
to Hamish - Minstead Lite.
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Copyright Surrey Police, please.
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Is that gonna be enough,
though? How d'you mean?
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Well, it might free up
some manpower and time,
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but what are they gonna do
with it? More bloody swabbing?
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Come in.
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Richard?
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Hello, Colin. Richard,
when you get a moment,
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could you trawl through all the
recent burglaries in the area...
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That took place at night,
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involved elderly occupiers,
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which we sent back to Borough?
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Yes.
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I can run you off a
copy, if you like.
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How d'you know I was
gonna ask for that?
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Well, truth is, a few
of us have been worried
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about the screening
process for a while.
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What, incomplete
data is bad data?
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Hmm.
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I call that the longlist.
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OK.
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Well, limited resources means
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we can only focus on a
limited number of cases.
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That means burglaries without
sufficient Minstead signatures
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get returned to Borough.
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But that could be him? Yes.
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And could potentially be
the one where he slips up.
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Which is why I keep
my own expanded tally
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alongside the official one.
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But if even half of
these are Minstead...
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He's offending on a scale that
nobody's publicly acknowledged.
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Yeah, I will have
a copy of that.
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Sure, but...
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Yeah, I didn't get it from you.
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Thanks, Richard.
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DCI Colin Sutton
for Hamish Campbell.
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You can go through. Thank you.
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Current screening
processes are excluding
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genuine Minstead cases.
How many are we talking?
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Course, they might
not all be him,
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but there's no doubt
the majority are.
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Bloody hell.
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What makes you so sure?
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Cos there's nowhere
else in the country
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where burglaries with these
specific hallmarks are occurring.
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Nowhere. They check
every morning,
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so it's very hard to believe
that there's two blokes out there
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committing identical crimes
in South-East London.
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What do you propose?
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To cope with the scale
of his offending,
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our response needs to change.
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We need to be more, er,
nimble, fleet-footed.
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Sounds easier said than done.
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Well, if it's a choice
between depth and breadth,
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then it has to be breadth.
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Meaning?
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New offences aren't treated as
crimes to be fully investigated,
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but as intelligence
opportunities.
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We make sure that we're
caring for the victims,
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but we focus our attention
on aspects of the case
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that could help us
ID Minstead Man.
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No need to generate all the actions
the murder squad approach requires?
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Reducing that workload
will free them up
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to assess all potential
Minstead cases,
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and it'll accelerate
the DNA swabbing.
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Call it Minstead Lite.
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I like the sound of that.
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One way or the other,
I'll see it's implemented.
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But we're still reliant
on him making a mistake,
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which so far he's
shown no sign of doing.
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Despite the depravity of his
acts, his planning is meticulous.
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You're not convinced this
is the best way forward?
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Well, I think it's
better than what we have.
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What do you really think?
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If you were starting from
scratch, what would you do?
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Ah, well, it's
frustrating, really.
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I haven't been able to devise
a proper plan, not in ten days.
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It's just too complex
for quick fixes.
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It's like, erm, do you
remember that old joke
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about a tourist going up
to a farmer and saying,
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"what's the best way to Dingle?"
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and he gets the
reply, "Ah, well, now,
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"if I was you, I wouldn't
be starting from here."
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That's pretty much where
I think we are with it.
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Where would you start from?
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I wrote this down at the very
first meeting that I attended.
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It's all about the DNA.
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The DNA has slanted every avenue
of enquiry that they have followed.
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You and I both know that
a mass swabbing programme
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is very hard to pull off.
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It's a tactic of last resort.
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But they've got so much
invested in the DNA,
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that change has
become unthinkable.
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As an outsider looking in, I
think there must be another way.
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I just don't know
what it is yet.
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Will you hang around and give
this some more thought, Colin?
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If there is a change of
direction, it can't come from me.
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Simon's got so much
invested in Minstead.
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I can't walk in there and tell
him it's all got to change.
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It's awkward, I agree.
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No, it's not awkward,
it's untenable.
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I'll make sure we look after
Simon if you tell me now
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that you'll stick around and
devise a workable alternative plan?
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And by "stick around,"
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I mean past your retirement
date if necessary.
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Yes, course I will.
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All right.
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All right.
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See anything you like, Diamanda?
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Yeah.
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The lighter.
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Can I take a look?
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What?
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I think you're
losing your touch.
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Always coming in
here empty-handed.
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You're just like a fucking
window shopper these days.
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Suit yourself.
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All right, all right, all right.
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Morning, sir. All right?
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Guv - he hit Colbridge
Road again last night.
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What? Come on.
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Colin.
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Simon.
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Most of the Minstead
hallmarks present and correct.
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He stole cash and jewellery,
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but he made no attempt to
engage with the victims.
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Victims?
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Yeah, another elderly
couple. Shaken but unhurt.
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Well, if targeting couples
is becoming a thing,
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we'll need to alter
the screening criteria.
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Colin?
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Every time we're just hoping that
this is the one where he slips up.
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But he doesn't, so we
wait for the next one,
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and the next and the next one.
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We've got to get
ahead of him, Simon.
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I don't disagree.
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But the first thing that
needs to change is this
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"we're not a bloody
burglary squad" mantra.
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I've never heard
anyone say that, Colin.
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Well, I have. And
do you know what?
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He IS a bloody burglar.
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He's a bright one, and a weird
one, but he's still a burglar.
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No cordon, no house-to-house.
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I read your report
last night, Colin.
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It's good work.
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Minstead Lite takes
effect from today.
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Thank you.
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Look, erm...
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..I haven't told
the others this yet,
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but as of next week I have
to go on restricted duties
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because of my back,
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so I'm gonna need an SIO who's
really gonna be boots on the ground.
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You want me to do it?
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I've cleared it with Hamish.
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Course, I'll still be in
overall command. Yeah.
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And on the end of a
phone. Yeah, of course.
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Going forward, fresh Minstead
crimes will be viewed
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as intelligence-gathering
opportunities,
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but not processed to the letter.
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We'll exploit any lead
that might identify him,
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but otherwise dispense
with statements, actions,
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attend and bureaucracy.
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Nice one, boss. Yeah,
that'll really free us up.
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No, it's Colin's idea. Benefit
of a fresh pair of eyes.
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Well, let's hope
something comes of it.
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It's timely,
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cos we need to widen the screening
after the Colbridge Road offences.
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Nathan.
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Yeah, er, Minstead Man
has now hit two residences
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with multiple occupants,
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and in neither case has he
engaged with his victims.
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We're barely on top
of our existing cases,
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and we're adding more?
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Barely? We're not even
touching the sides.
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Well, now you'll have more
time. Well, not much, guv.
252
00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,359
Because we're also
suspending DNA swabbing.
253
00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,719
As of next week,
254
00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,359
I have to go on restricted
duties on account of my back,
255
00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,359
so Colin will be taking
over the day-to-day,
256
00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,559
but reporting to me
directly. Thank you, Simon.
257
00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,359
Yeah, Mr Morgan will very
much remain in command,
258
00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,039
but I'm looking forward to working
with you all much more closely.
259
00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,359
And, apologies in advance
if I'm still catching up
260
00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,360
with what I appreciate is a vast
and complex case. Thank you.
261
00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,039
You'll be sorely missed,
guv. Thanks, Kenny.
262
00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,200
Won't be the same without you.
263
00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,359
I want to mount limited
surveillance around Colbridge Road.
264
00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,359
He's hit there
twice in two weeks.
265
00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,359
If that's not provocation,
I don't know what is.
266
00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,039
He hits it a third time, we're
gonna look seriously inept.
267
00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,359
We'll look like we can't find
our arse with both hands.
268
00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,359
When you say "limited",
do you mean low-key?
269
00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,360
Just a couple of blokes in cars?
270
00:15:07,361 --> 00:15:09,359
Yeah, maybe a van or two.
271
00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,359
Yeah, he hasn't made a
significant mistake in 17 years.
272
00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,600
Do you think he'll fall for it?
273
00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,359
I think it's worth a punt.
274
00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,359
Yeah and if he doesn't
risk a third go-round,
275
00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,359
then no harm done.
Yeah, we had it covered.
276
00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,720
Exactly. Set it
up. Nice one, guv.
277
00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,039
Sorry I'm late, boss.
278
00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,359
Informant kept me waiting.
279
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,359
Best ones always do.
OK, what've you got?
280
00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,359
Well, I showed my snout
the jewellery pics.
281
00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,359
She reckons she's seen
the silver necklace
282
00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,359
belonging to the Allenhall
Road victim, Sandra Nelson.
283
00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,399
Where's she seen it?
284
00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,359
Pawn shop in Forest Hill.
285
00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,879
Do you trust her?
286
00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,359
Oh, wouldn't go that
far, but here you are.
287
00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,360
She sneaked a photo.
288
00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,359
That looks like the
same necklace to me.
289
00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,559
Now, the owner is a Brian Royce,
290
00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,359
and he should've taken
the details of the seller,
291
00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,359
but even if he didn't, there's
cameras inside and out.
292
00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,359
So, potentially, this Brian Royce
could give us Minstead Man's name?
293
00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,359
Potentially, but Royce does have
a history of non-cooperation.
294
00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,360
So, why haven't
you picked him up?
295
00:16:06,361 --> 00:16:09,719
Well, er, cos he's
also got form for GBH.
296
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,360
Team effort, I think, guv.
297
00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,359
I'll leave this for
you, Colin, I think.
298
00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,360
I can certainly help
with the stab vests.
299
00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,359
All units, all units.
300
00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,359
'Be aware, I have
eyes on the suspect
301
00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,359
'approaching the pawn shop on
foot from the high street end.'
302
00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,359
If it's safe, we take him
before he enters the shop.
303
00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,359
'Copy that.'
304
00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,360
He's just approaching
the shop now. Move in.
305
00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:19,360
Go. Take him.
306
00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:25,360
Morning, Brian.
307
00:17:25,361 --> 00:17:27,359
Now, behave yourself.
What's going on?
308
00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:29,879
I'm arresting you on suspicion
of handling stolen goods.
309
00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,359
You do not have to say anything,
but it may harm your defence
310
00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:34,359
if you fail to mention
when questioned
311
00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,360
something which you
later rely on in court.
312
00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:43,360
Who sold you this, Brian?
313
00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:47,360
No comment.
314
00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,359
Well, we know the
sale's very recent.
315
00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,200
Last few days.
316
00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:56,360
'No comment.'
317
00:17:56,361 --> 00:17:59,360
'This man's done some
terrible things.'
318
00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:02,359
He's not someone
you want to protect,
319
00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,360
not someone you want
to be associated with.
320
00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,359
But if you don't tell us, the
cameras in your shop will.
321
00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,359
We're viewing that
footage right now.
322
00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:15,880
There's no downside
in co-operating.
323
00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:20,360
Who sold you the
necklace, Brian?
324
00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:23,039
We need a name.
325
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,039
Otherwise we'll have
to re-focus our inquiry
326
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,400
onto the provenance of every piece
of jewellery in your shop, say.
327
00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:35,359
I'd like to take a break,
so I can speak to my lawyer.
328
00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:37,199
Of course.
329
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,359
'Interview paused at...' Scared,
isn't he? For a tough guy?
330
00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:41,360
Hmm.
331
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,559
Got to be somewhere? Oh,
it's just a family thing.
332
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,359
Go, I'll call if
anything changes.
333
00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:50,360
Thanks, Nathan.
334
00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:53,360
Oh, hang on.
335
00:18:53,361 --> 00:18:56,560
'You said he'd done
some terrible things?'
336
00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,360
What kind of things?
337
00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:04,359
He's a serial rapist who
targets elderly women.
338
00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,359
The Night Stalker?
339
00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:08,040
The Old Dear Hunter?
340
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,360
'Yeah.'
341
00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:13,360
'You're barking up
the wrong tree, love.
342
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,040
'I'd have given you his name
in a fucking heartbeat.'
343
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,359
I found these two
loitering with intent.
344
00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:35,359
Oh! Sorry we're late.
345
00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:39,359
Oh, don't be silly.
346
00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,359
All right, Dad?
These wings are done.
347
00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:43,560
Er... yeah, they are, yeah.
348
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,359
How are you, Dad?
349
00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,360
How are YOU, is
more to the point.
350
00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,360
I hear you're busy
again. Yeah. Yeah, I am.
351
00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:54,360
Watch your back.
352
00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:58,359
I know things have
changed since my day.
353
00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:00,879
There you go, have a
beer. Oh, thank you.
354
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,360
The grass is always
greener, isn't it?
355
00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:08,359
Taking over someone else's
case is always a bit messy.
356
00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:10,359
I'm not taking over,
I'm just helping out.
357
00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:13,359
Oh, yeah? Oh yeah, your
mum picked this up for you.
358
00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:16,040
I did not! Oh, yes, you did.
359
00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:20,360
It's an early birthday
present, isn't it?
360
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:32,039
I've finally got my
way about a cruise.
361
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,359
You haven't!
362
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:35,359
Christ!
363
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,359
Only took me 20 years.
364
00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,359
Why the change of heart,
Dave? What change of heart?
365
00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:41,879
You're going, aren't you?
366
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,359
I always say being shut
up on the high seas
367
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:48,359
with a bunch of numpties
sounds like a nightmare,
368
00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:52,360
only now I'll be able to
say so with authority!
369
00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:57,360
I won't be a moment.
370
00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:00,560
I bet you'll enjoy it.
371
00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,359
'Yes, guv?' Any luck
with that necklace?
372
00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,360
'Lab just called.'
373
00:21:11,361 --> 00:21:14,399
Three sets of female DNA
on the chain and clasp,
374
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,360
not one is a match
to Sandra Nelson.
375
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:20,359
So it's probably not
her necklace, then?
376
00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:22,360
I really think it's
a coincidence, guv.
377
00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:26,359
What about Brian Royce?
'Sticking to his story.'
378
00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,359
Won't tell us where
he got the necklace,
379
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,359
but insists it
wasn't Minstead Man.
380
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,360
All right. OK, thanks, Nathan.
381
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:40,360
Now, make sure you
lock the front door
382
00:21:40,361 --> 00:21:43,199
and bolt the French windows, eh?
383
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,039
If your man tries
breaking into ours,
384
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,199
it'll be the last thing he does.
385
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,879
Oh, blimey, have a
word, Mum, will you?
386
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,360
Bye, love. Bye-bye.
387
00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,359
Bye-bye. Take care
of yourself. Bye-bye.
388
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:01,360
Night-night.
389
00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,360
Bye.
390
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:16,360
Nathan?
391
00:22:16,361 --> 00:22:19,359
'Just had local CID on the
phone. He's gone berserk.
392
00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,359
'Hit three homes in
the last two hours,
393
00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:23,359
'and we're hearing
reports of a fourth.'
394
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:26,359
Colbridge Road? 'Miles
away - Thornton Heath.'
395
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:28,359
Are you short-handed?
'That's an understatement.'
396
00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:29,879
All right, I'll try
and get you a HAT team.
397
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,359
'No, I already tried.
398
00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:33,359
'Busy with a fatal
stabbing in Lambeth.'
399
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,359
Where are you?
'Boss, you don't...'
400
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,360
I'll be an extra pair
of hands. Where are you?
401
00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:55,360
Nathan.
402
00:22:55,361 --> 00:22:57,359
Boss.
403
00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:02,559
The victim is an 85-year-old
male, a Mr Tomczyk, and get this -
404
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,359
he insists he was burgled by
the same man three months ago.
405
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,359
Is there a record
of that offence?
406
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:10,359
Yeah, local CID sent it our way.
407
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:13,359
I see. We sent it back cos
it didn't have Minstead's MO?
408
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,359
Correct.
409
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:18,359
Mr Tomczyk's in the garden.
He didn't want to be inside,
410
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,879
and doesn't want to go to hospital.
He was very clear about that.
411
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,359
OK. Is this where
he got in? Yes, guv.
412
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:24,360
Anything?
413
00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:27,359
The tool marks look very much like
our man's favourite screwdriver.
414
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,360
Microscope analysis
should confirm.
415
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,359
Mr Tomczyk?
416
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:51,360
This is Mr Sutton,
he's in charge.
417
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,359
How do you do, Mr Tomczyk?
418
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:58,359
I'm very sorry to hear about
the ordeal you've had tonight.
419
00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:00,559
Are you sure you wouldn't like
us to drive you to the hospital
420
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,359
just to make sure?
421
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,559
I was in war, Mr Sutton.
422
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,359
You go to hospital
when you are shot,
423
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,359
or when you step on a mine
and your foot is hanging off.
424
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,360
Fair enough.
425
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,360
I understand you think you've
been burgled by this man before?
426
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,359
I don't think it, I know it.
427
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:24,399
Did you recognise him?
428
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,359
His voice. His smell.
429
00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:30,879
The way he sat there
watching me through his mask.
430
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,879
I said, "Oh, hello,
it's you again."
431
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,359
What did he say?
432
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,359
He asked me for
money. I said no.
433
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:41,360
He said he would hurt me if
I did not give it to him.
434
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:46,039
So, I, er... I
gave him some cash.
435
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,200
I think that was a good idea.
436
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,720
Yes and no.
437
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,359
When I opened wallet,
he saw bank card.
438
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,359
And he took that as well?
439
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:57,360
He asked me for PIN.
440
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,360
No way was I giving
him the right number...
441
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,359
..and I reckoned you would be here
before he knew I'd tricked him.
442
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,360
Oh. You're a very brave man.
443
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:19,360
After you give him
the PIN, did he leave?
444
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:26,879
When I was in the
army, I was boxer.
445
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:33,359
They called me Kon Roboczy, which
means "workhorse" in Polish.
446
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:37,360
I wasn't strongest,
I wasn't fastest...
447
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,360
..but I was stubborn.
448
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,360
I stayed on my feet whatever...
449
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,360
..whatever they threw at me.
450
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:56,360
He didn't leave after you
gave him the PIN, did he?
451
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359
I don't want to talk about it.
452
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:10,360
No. No, I understand.
453
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,360
When you do feel ready,
454
00:26:14,361 --> 00:26:18,399
Patricia here is a very,
very good listener.
455
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,360
In fact, she's so good,
we pay her to do it.
456
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:25,360
Thank you.
457
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:27,360
Cup of tea?
458
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:31,360
Have you got a map?
459
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,359
Yeah, in the car.
460
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:38,359
Mr Tomczyk gave him the wrong
PIN for his credit card.
461
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,359
Good on him.
462
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:43,199
Yeah. Well, he must know
that we'll stop the card,
463
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,039
so he couldn't use it ASAP.
464
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,359
I'm assuming he has a
favourite bank machine?
465
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:48,360
Yeah, a couple.
466
00:26:48,361 --> 00:26:50,039
Well, what's the nearest one?
467
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,360
Erm...
468
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,359
There.
469
00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:58,399
Yeah, it's close. Who've
we got up and about?
470
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,359
Kenny and Cath attended
the first and second.
471
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,359
Adam and Neville
went to the third.
472
00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,359
Right. Well, they're
closer than us, then.
473
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,359
Tell them I want them all
watching that cash machine,
474
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,360
and they don't leave
until I say so. Right.
475
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:39,559
How far? Two minutes.
476
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,200
We can take a
shortcut. Left here.
477
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,200
Fuck's sake, Kenny!
478
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:15,360
Downshire Gardens.
479
00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:18,360
It's a cross street. Right
at the end, and you're there.
480
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,400
We should have a view of
the cash machine... there.
481
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,559
Well, there's our Ken.
482
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360
Oh, bollocks! Nice one.
483
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,360
How Special Branch didn't
snap him up, I'll never know.
484
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,360
Come on, you bastard.
Come and get it.
485
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,359
Yeah, I'll let him
know. He's just arrived.
486
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,560
Yeah. OK, cheers.
487
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,879
I thought we were
watching and waiting?
488
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,039
Too late, boss. We
missed him. What?
489
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,359
Financial boys just called.
490
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,359
He tried to get cash out of
there right before we got here.
491
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,359
We must've missed him
by seconds. Oh, fuck!
492
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,359
Did the machine
swallow his card? No.
493
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,359
Well, he might've
discarded it nearby, then.
494
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,360
Close but no cigar, eh?
495
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,359
I'm kidding. Good punt, sir.
496
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,359
Trip down memory lane,
coming back here.
497
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Why, did you attend before?
498
00:30:05,361 --> 00:30:07,359
And the two times before that.
499
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,359
Yeah, he seemed to like
that machine so much,
500
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,359
we went proactive. Oh, yeah?
501
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,359
We arranged for hidden cameras
to be installed near the ATM
502
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,360
just in case he returned.
503
00:30:15,361 --> 00:30:16,719
It was the guv'nor's
idea, as I recall.
504
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,359
And you didn't think
to mention that before?
505
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,359
Well, I'm mentioning
it now, aren't I?
506
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,039
Are they still there?
Are they working?
507
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,879
TSU are en route to
retrieve the footage.
508
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,359
We're gonna get a look at
Minstead Man, a proper look.
509
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,359
If you'd got here
five minutes sooner,
510
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,360
he'd be in fucking handcuffs!
511
00:30:31,361 --> 00:30:34,359
I'm not sure that's
fair, boss. No, it's not.
512
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,359
All right, look, we've had
the nearest of near misses.
513
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,359
It's infuriating and it
hurts, but we move on.
514
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,520
Let's see what the TSU bring.
515
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,359
They're in the phone box. Eh?
516
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,360
The cameras.
517
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,359
At 12:36am, he walks
briskly from Lessing Street,
518
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,359
makes a couple of
"lifesaver" glances behind,
519
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,720
as he approaches the ATM.
520
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,359
Erm... this is from
the second camera.
521
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,359
Looks like he's wearing
some kind of blue cagoule.
522
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,360
Yeah, he wears it well.
523
00:31:10,361 --> 00:31:13,359
Zipped up to his nose, and
hood pulled over his face.
524
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,359
Is that the best shot
we've got of him?
525
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,360
Yeah. He's nothing
if not cautious.
526
00:31:16,361 --> 00:31:19,879
Well, maybe there's other things
we can glean beyond his appearance.
527
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,359
Like what? I don't know, Adam,
528
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,719
but there's two cameras there.
There's got to be something.
529
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,359
What about his exit route?
530
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,200
Yeah, let's have a
look at that, Cathy.
531
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,359
Whoa, hang on a
minute. That's us!
532
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,359
Neville, that's...
fucking us, mate.
533
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,359
If we'd have gotten there
30 seconds earlier...
534
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,359
That's spilt milk, Adam. Cathy?
535
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,879
When he gives up on the ATM,
536
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,879
he doesn't go in the
direction he came.
537
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,359
He heads west.
538
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,359
Right, what road's that?
539
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,559
It's Ballina Street.
540
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,559
Right. So, applying a
bit of street tradecraft,
541
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,359
what do we think?
He's arriving by car?
542
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,039
Well, there's no way he got
there that fast any other way.
543
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,359
And not at that time of
night. So, where's he parked?
544
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,359
Well, based on his approach,
545
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,359
I'd say near the top
end of Lessing Street.
546
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,359
Maybe Flintock Street.
547
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,359
Agreed, but then he goes off
in a different direction.
548
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,360
So, how's he getting
back to his car?
549
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,359
What about here?
550
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,879
There's a little cut-through
further down Ballina Street.
551
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,359
Crosses back under
the railway bridge
552
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,359
and comes out on Flintock
Street. Loop the loop.
553
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,199
Back in his car in
two minutes, guv.
554
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,359
Entrance is about 200
yards west of the ATM.
555
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,359
We did look at putting
a camera on it.
556
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,359
Yeah. That's the
cut-through there.
557
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,359
Looks like the bushes
extend all the way down.
558
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,359
If you were looking to
ditch a hot bank card,
559
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,359
it beats a bin or a
drain cover, doesn't it?
560
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,359
Kenny, I want a POLSA team
down there this afternoon, OK?
561
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,360
Yes, boss. All right, good
work everyone. Well done.
562
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,359
Can I have a word,
boss? Yeah, sure.
563
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,359
I mean before we
get in a POLSA team.
564
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Hang on one, Kenny.
565
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,040
Mr Morgan called for
an update earlier.
566
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,359
Right. Do you know why
he called you and not me?
567
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,359
I think he said
your phone was busy.
568
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,039
Go on.
569
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,359
Well, I told him about him
using his favourite ATM again.
570
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,359
OK?
571
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,800
He doesn't want us
making a big fuss.
572
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,359
Says it might put
him off returning,
573
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,359
and those cameras
weren't cheap to install.
574
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,520
And how's he defining a fuss?
575
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,359
He specifically said not
to get in a POLSA team.
576
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,360
With respect,
that's not his call.
577
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,359
Right, well...
578
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Can you ring him and
tell him that, please?
579
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,359
That's not a conversation
I want to have, not now.
580
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,359
Then you're putting me
in a difficult position.
581
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,359
That's not my intention.
582
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,359
Right, so call him. Look,
I know, he's your boss.
583
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,359
It's not about that.
Well, what is it about?
584
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,359
Loyalty. I'm his number
two, he trusts me.
585
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,359
I'm not about to betray that trust
for someone I've known five minutes.
586
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,879
No offence.
587
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,360
None taken. You've welcomed me
like no-one else on this team.
588
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,359
Right, well, now you
can return the favour.
589
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,559
No, sorry. I'm the
acting SIO on this,
590
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,359
and my decision is that we
search that cut-through.
591
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,559
If there's any problem, I'll be sure
he knows you gave me the message,
592
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,360
and I ignored it. It's on me.
593
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,360
OK.
594
00:34:18,361 --> 00:34:20,359
Be worth it for the
chance of some evidence,
595
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,360
cos, Christ, we need something.
596
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,360
Go on, then, Kenny. Call 'em up.
597
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,880
He's here.
598
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,360
Found a bank card.
599
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,039
Looks weather-damaged.
600
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,359
I'd be surprised if it was
stashed there last night.
601
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,359
It's a different name as
well. Mrs A Waynflete.
602
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,359
Anne Waynflete? Yeah.
603
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,359
She a Minstead victim?
604
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,559
Yeah, two years ago.
605
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,359
And did he use this card
in that ATM two years ago?
606
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,359
Well, looks like.
607
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,199
Thanks, Tabs, good
work. Thank you.
608
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,359
Well, if they'd have searched
this place two years ago,
609
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,879
they might've got prints
and DNA. Still might.
610
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,039
Not after two years' weather
damage. Not a chance.
611
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,359
In fairness, she didn't
report a card being stolen.
612
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,359
I took her statement, guv.
613
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,720
If you've got any other
questions, I'll be happy to help.
614
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,360
Yes, thank you.
615
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,880
If you want somewhere
bigger, just say.
616
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,360
Nah. Feels like home now.
617
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,360
What's on your mind?
618
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,359
Errol Dobson.
619
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,359
Can you get the team
together, please?
620
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,360
Yeah, sure. Thanks, Nathan.
621
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,359
Errol Dobson was a prolific
burglar of the elderly
622
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,360
in the early nineties.
623
00:36:24,361 --> 00:36:27,359
He was even more prolific
than Minstead Man.
624
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,359
He also favoured the night,
and he'd been at it for years.
625
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,399
His patch was only small,
626
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,359
just a dozen or so
streets in Tottenham.
627
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,359
That just made it
all the more galling
628
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,359
when we couldn't catch him.
629
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,359
Some of the team
lost faith, you know.
630
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,359
They said, "How can one man be
responsible for so many offences?"
631
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,359
We were chasing a
phantom or a ghost.
632
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,359
And everything we tried,
everything failed,
633
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,360
until my boss went proactive.
634
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,359
What did that involve?
635
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,359
Cobbling together 30 bodies
and saturating those streets.
636
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,359
We knew how sharp he was, so
we had to stay well hidden.
637
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,559
There was no hunkering
down in the passenger seat.
638
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,359
D'you get him? Night
five. Caught in the act.
639
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,359
And that is how we'll
catch Minstead Man.
640
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,400
Are you serious?
641
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,359
If you've got a better
idea, Kenny, I'm all ears.
642
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,359
But we're not looking at a
corner of Tottenham, guv.
643
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,359
Looking at most of South London
from the Thames to the M23.
644
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,359
He's right. And we tried
going proactive before.
645
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,359
Yes, I know you have,
646
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,359
and Simon agrees it's
worth another shot.
647
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,359
By his own admission, that
effort was hampered by resources.
648
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,359
And this time it won't be?
649
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,359
We just need a bigger
boat. Ocean liner.
650
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,359
Fucking aircraft carrier.
651
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,359
Yeah, I'm not feeling
this, er, boat analogy.
652
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,359
It's from Jaws.
Yeah, thanks, Cathy.
653
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,359
No, what I mean is that
boat doesn't exist.
654
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,719
It'd take hundreds of officers.
655
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,359
You'd get to keep 'em
for two nights max.
656
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,560
This is a bloke who stopped
dead for three years.
657
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,359
You finished?
658
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,359
I'm just saying.
659
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,359
No, they're good
points, well made.
660
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,719
But we have to try something
new, Adam. We have to.
661
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:07,359
Now, analysis can shave down
the target area, right, Richard?
662
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,359
To a degree. How?
663
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,359
Well, he never goes for flats,
local authority, social housing.
664
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,359
It's always private dwellings
- houses, bungalows.
665
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,359
What, that's it?
666
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,879
And there's the crimes themselves.
The way they're clustered.
667
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,359
Oh, come on. He's
offended all over!
668
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,359
Yeah, he has. But going back '92,
there's a density of offending
669
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,879
in the Shirley area
670
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,879
that makes it what we
call an anchor point.
671
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,359
His hunting ground of choice.
672
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,359
Yeah, and that's the patch
where we're most likely
673
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,360
to catch him in the act.
674
00:38:36,361 --> 00:38:38,359
From there we build out a map
675
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,359
of other target
areas around Shirley.
676
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,360
Might be a square mile,
might be a single street.
677
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,359
This map - what are we
supposed to do with it?
678
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,359
We refine it, we cost it,
679
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,359
and then we flog it to
the Force Tasking Group.
680
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,359
No-one else can fund an
operation of this scale.
681
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,360
And then we go out and nick him.
682
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,359
Sorry, guv, I was
with Mr Tomczyk.
683
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,360
How's he doing?
684
00:39:01,361 --> 00:39:03,359
Oh, OK under the circumstances.
685
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,360
He told me what happened,
so that's a start.
686
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,719
And?
687
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,359
The offender fondled
his genitals,
688
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,359
and after threats of violence,
forced him to touch his own.
689
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,559
Oh, God.
690
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,359
My sense is that was the
extent of the sexual contact.
691
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,359
I'll be able to say that
with more confidence
692
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,359
after another session.
693
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,360
Poor man. Yeah.
694
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,360
And you.
695
00:39:27,361 --> 00:39:29,360
How long have you
been on Minstead?
696
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,360
Five years.
697
00:39:32,361 --> 00:39:34,359
It's a lot of victims.
698
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,359
It's gonna take its toll.
699
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,559
I'm like anyone, boss.
There's good days and bad.
700
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,359
Yeah, but you're at the
sharp end, aren't you?
701
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,359
Oh, at first it was just
finding the... vocabulary
702
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,359
to coax the
information we needed.
703
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,359
Finding other ways to
say "What happened?,
704
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,359
"What did he do to you?"
705
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,359
I used to pause the interviews
706
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,359
so they wouldn't
see how upset I was.
707
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,359
Then I was dealing
with their children,
708
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,879
and oh, God, that was
a whole other thing.
709
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,360
In what way?
710
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,359
First, there's just
breaking it to them.
711
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,359
Telling a son or daughter that
their mum's been sexually assaulted.
712
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,359
Then you see the
dynamics change.
713
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,359
The kids become the parents,
714
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,559
and these... wonderful,
totally autonomous adults
715
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,359
become dependent,
become the kids.
716
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,559
Hard not to get
emotionally involved.
717
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,359
Hmm. Lately I've been going
from funeral to funeral
718
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,359
with this terrible sadness,
and I won't lie - fury,
719
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,360
that they won't
see justice done.
720
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,360
When it's all over, it will
hit me, I know it will.
721
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,400
I'm almost looking
forward to it.
722
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,360
Richard?
723
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,359
Thanks for backing
me up in there.
724
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,039
Hope I didn't come across
as a total chancer.
725
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,359
Well, we are taking
a chance, aren't we?
726
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,719
Yeah. Yeah, a big one.
727
00:40:55,720 --> 00:40:57,359
I want you to book
me a meeting room
728
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,399
at Scotland Yard next
Monday. No problem.
729
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,359
And I want your help with an
email. Concise as possible,
730
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,879
but that conveys the rate
and gravity of the offences,
731
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,359
and the need to
take urgent action.
732
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,359
Yeah, sure. It'll
come from the heart.
733
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,719
Who's it for?
734
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,559
Heads of all the squads
that can give us a chance
735
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719
with the Force Tasking Group.
736
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:18,359
Oh, you'll need it. FTG reject
92% of funding requests.
737
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,360
Better make that
email count, then, eh?
738
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,360
You definitely said Monday?
739
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,360
Only just coming up to ten.
740
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Reminds me of my
eighth birthday party.
741
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,359
Neville?
742
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,359
'He was out last night.
Lady of 70 in Coulsdon.
743
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,359
'He started assaulting her,
and she begged him to stop.
744
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,359
'She says he did. Whether
or not that's true, TBC.'
745
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,360
Is Patricia with her?
746
00:41:58,361 --> 00:42:01,359
'Yeah, as we speak.' All
right. Thanks, Neville.
747
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,359
Keep me posted.
748
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,720
Boss.
749
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,360
Colin?
750
00:42:07,361 --> 00:42:11,359
Superintendent Jackie Miller and
DCI Greg Burns, Covert Policing.
751
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,359
Good to meet you. Thanks
so much for coming.
752
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,359
Well, it was a compelling email.
753
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,359
Oh. Oh, good. Come on
in. Come on in. This way.
754
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,359
Get dry. Morning. Cup of
tea? Cup of coffee? Morning.
755
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,359
I've never made a request
to the Force Tasking Group,
756
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,359
but I understand that many of
you here are regular bidders,
757
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,039
and I hear that one of you
even saw some money once.
758
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,199
Yeah, that was me.
759
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,359
Fucking cheque bounced.
760
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,359
So, we're here to
listen and to learn.
761
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,359
I'm a big believer in
laying out the plan
762
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,359
in frankly idiot-proof language.
I'd say something like,
763
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,359
"By observing every inch
of the targeted streets,
764
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,359
"you're seeking
to control them."
765
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,039
No-one will be able to walk in
or out without you seeing them.
766
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,399
If Minstead Man steps on your plot,
you will get him, no ifs no buts.
767
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,199
That means no officers
walking around the plot.
768
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,359
Everyone needs to be
inside a building.
769
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,879
I'd also suggest having
surveillance teams on standby
770
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,359
just outside the plot.
771
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,879
If a suspect needs
to be questioned,
772
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,039
they can be tailed and pulled over
well away from the target area.
773
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,359
Yeah, that's crucial. You
don't want word getting out
774
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,360
that there's surveillance
going on in Shirley.
775
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,359
We'd be very happy
to supply air support
776
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,399
for whatever mission
you end up running.
777
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,359
We can watch from an altitude
778
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,560
and be completely
undetectable from the ground.
779
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,359
Kevin and I run Central Control.
780
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,359
We can have access
to 24/7 live feeds
781
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,360
from thousands of Local Authority
and Transport For London cameras.
782
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,360
Looking at your proposed plot,
783
00:44:08,361 --> 00:44:11,720
you'd need at least 150 bodies
to throw a net over that.
784
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,720
Right. Which you'll never get.
785
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,360
There is a smaller
area I've devised...
786
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,359
..here in and around Shirley.
787
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,360
Still big, but more achievable.
788
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,359
75 officers should be
able to deliver that.
789
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,359
And what are our
chances of getting that?
790
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,359
If you ask for 150 officers,
they'll probably give you 50.
791
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,359
But if you ask for 75,
and you make a good case,
792
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,199
you might get 75.
793
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,399
If we shrink the plot,
794
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,399
the odds of him offending
obviously shrink, too.
795
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,359
By how much? Well,
based on past offences,
796
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,360
they drop from one in
three to one in six.
797
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,360
One in six.
798
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,359
You know what?
799
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,359
They're still good
odds. I'll take that.
800
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,199
So, when do you
pitch to the FTG?
801
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,359
Well, now I know what to ask
for, as soon as possible.
802
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,359
Listen - thank you.
803
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,359
Thank you all for your
support and your expertise.
804
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,359
I just want to say
how much it means
805
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,199
that so many of you responded
and clearly care about this case
806
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,360
and its many, many victims.
807
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,360
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