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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,864 --> 00:00:12,099 [dramatic music] 2 00:00:13,501 --> 00:00:15,269 -[breathing heavily] 3 00:00:29,683 --> 00:00:30,384 [gunshot] 4 00:00:31,752 --> 00:00:33,287 -[podcast host] And with one shot, 5 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,423 the Roxdale Killer had struck again. 6 00:00:35,456 --> 00:00:37,692 -The body of Monica Gaines-- -[knock on window] 7 00:00:37,892 --> 00:00:39,393 [both scream] 8 00:00:40,628 --> 00:00:41,562 [both sigh] 9 00:00:43,631 --> 00:00:44,665 -Thumbs! -Thumbs. 10 00:00:44,699 --> 00:00:46,200 -You scared us. 11 00:00:46,233 --> 00:00:48,669 -You two listening to True Crime Podcasts again? 12 00:00:48,703 --> 00:00:49,704 -No. -Yes. 13 00:00:50,504 --> 00:00:51,372 -No. -Yes. 14 00:00:52,173 --> 00:00:53,741 -It's not any true crime podcast. 15 00:00:53,774 --> 00:00:56,544 It's Whodunnit featuring Laurel St. James. 16 00:00:56,577 --> 00:00:59,780 -You guys need to make some new friends. 17 00:00:59,814 --> 00:01:01,282 I'll see you in class. 18 00:01:01,315 --> 00:01:02,216 -Ok. 19 00:01:03,517 --> 00:01:04,485 -[laughs] 20 00:01:06,921 --> 00:01:08,656 Class doesn't start for another 10 minutes. 21 00:01:08,689 --> 00:01:10,758 -That's exactly what I was thinking. 22 00:01:10,791 --> 00:01:12,259 Press play. 23 00:01:12,293 --> 00:01:15,129 -Birdie Case... I love you. 24 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:20,801 -[podcast host] After shooting her, 25 00:01:20,835 --> 00:01:23,371 the killer placed a note in the victim's hand. 26 00:01:23,404 --> 00:01:25,740 He disappeared into the darkness, 27 00:01:25,773 --> 00:01:29,810 his identity still unknown to this day. 28 00:01:29,844 --> 00:01:31,312 [camera flash whines] 29 00:01:31,345 --> 00:01:33,647 * A birdie told a birdie, told me* 30 00:01:33,681 --> 00:01:34,949 * 31 00:01:34,982 --> 00:01:38,319 * what was I supposed to say* 32 00:01:38,352 --> 00:01:39,453 * 33 00:01:39,487 --> 00:01:42,256 * words like a magical potion* 34 00:01:42,289 --> 00:01:43,591 * Hmm, hmm, hmm... * 35 00:01:43,624 --> 00:01:47,528 * a little goes a long, long way.* 36 00:01:47,561 --> 00:01:51,632 * It's only just a riddle while it's still in the dark* 37 00:01:51,665 --> 00:01:55,536 * It's only just a rumor while it's still in the dark* 38 00:01:55,569 --> 00:01:56,971 * 39 00:01:57,004 --> 00:02:00,641 -As someone who spent 25 years working homicides, 40 00:02:00,674 --> 00:02:04,812 I can tell you it's evidence that solves crimes, 41 00:02:04,845 --> 00:02:06,747 not the story of the crime. 42 00:02:06,781 --> 00:02:11,285 So, when someone describes the narrative of the crime, 43 00:02:11,318 --> 00:02:14,321 you have to be skeptical. 44 00:02:14,355 --> 00:02:18,392 So... what's the job of the P.I.? 45 00:02:18,426 --> 00:02:19,326 -Oh! 46 00:02:19,860 --> 00:02:21,262 -Yes... Birdie. 47 00:02:21,295 --> 00:02:22,563 -We have to verify everything. 48 00:02:22,596 --> 00:02:23,831 -Exactly. 49 00:02:23,864 --> 00:02:26,300 Don't let the story dictate the evidence, 50 00:02:26,333 --> 00:02:28,536 no matter how fun that story might be. 51 00:02:28,569 --> 00:02:33,541 Let the evidence tell the story. Okay? 52 00:02:33,574 --> 00:02:35,342 Pieces. 53 00:02:35,376 --> 00:02:36,811 Alden. 54 00:02:36,844 --> 00:02:38,379 You with us, or...? 55 00:02:38,412 --> 00:02:41,849 -Oh, uh... loud and clear. Evidence, not narrative. 56 00:02:41,882 --> 00:02:42,917 -All right. 57 00:02:42,950 --> 00:02:44,852 On to one of my favorite subjects. 58 00:02:44,885 --> 00:02:47,355 The dangers of rough shadowing. 59 00:02:47,388 --> 00:02:48,689 -Why am I always so jazzed 60 00:02:48,723 --> 00:02:50,691 after spending three hours talking about murder? 61 00:02:50,725 --> 00:02:53,494 -I know! I know, me too. 62 00:02:53,527 --> 00:02:54,328 Oh, wait. 63 00:02:54,362 --> 00:02:56,931 We're not that murder couple, right? 64 00:02:56,964 --> 00:02:58,999 We do have other hobbies, right? 65 00:02:59,033 --> 00:03:00,568 -Birdie, we’re private investigators now. 66 00:03:00,601 --> 00:03:02,870 It's our job to be immersed in the crime world. 67 00:03:02,903 --> 00:03:04,038 Doctors go to hospitals, 68 00:03:04,071 --> 00:03:06,006 we listen to strangers talk about murder. 69 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,341 -I don’t know if that’s quite the same. 70 00:03:07,375 --> 00:03:08,676 -We are the doctors of murder. 71 00:03:08,709 --> 00:03:09,944 -Hmm... 72 00:03:09,977 --> 00:03:12,012 -Yeah. No, that doesn't sound right. Whatever. 73 00:03:12,046 --> 00:03:14,315 We have a lot of normal people hobbies too. 74 00:03:14,348 --> 00:03:18,052 You like yoga, you know, and doing lawyer stuff, and I, uh... 75 00:03:18,085 --> 00:03:21,489 -And you... you collect robots, 76 00:03:21,522 --> 00:03:23,457 and you brew your own root beer, 77 00:03:23,491 --> 00:03:25,626 and you will literally do anything 78 00:03:25,659 --> 00:03:27,028 to wear a fake mustache. 79 00:03:27,061 --> 00:03:29,764 -Well, mine doesn’t grow in right. 80 00:03:29,797 --> 00:03:31,966 -Do you think Thumbs is right? 81 00:03:31,999 --> 00:03:33,701 Do we have to make new friends? 82 00:03:33,734 --> 00:03:34,769 -No, we have tons of friends. 83 00:03:34,802 --> 00:03:37,004 -Not counting your robots. 84 00:03:37,038 --> 00:03:38,539 -Ah, you may have a point. 85 00:03:41,075 --> 00:03:45,012 -Listen to your body. 86 00:03:45,046 --> 00:03:49,050 Inhale light. 87 00:03:49,083 --> 00:03:52,553 Exhale what doesn't serve you. 88 00:03:52,586 --> 00:03:53,754 [door opens] 89 00:03:55,489 --> 00:03:56,390 -Mm. 90 00:03:59,694 --> 00:04:00,728 Oh. 91 00:04:00,761 --> 00:04:02,730 Sorry. 92 00:04:02,763 --> 00:04:03,931 This is a room. 93 00:04:03,964 --> 00:04:07,034 I thought there was a room before the room where you do... 94 00:04:07,068 --> 00:04:08,536 whatever this is. 95 00:04:08,569 --> 00:04:13,607 -This is a sacred space. Leave! 96 00:04:13,641 --> 00:04:14,909 -No babe... 97 00:04:14,942 --> 00:04:16,510 -Namaste. 98 00:04:16,977 --> 00:04:19,380 -Okay. Nama-go. 99 00:04:20,047 --> 00:04:21,916 -Babe, I love you. Now go, go, go. 100 00:04:21,949 --> 00:04:23,317 -Have fun. 101 00:04:25,119 --> 00:04:26,520 [sound of bowl vibration] 102 00:04:28,456 --> 00:04:31,692 -And that concludes class. 103 00:04:31,726 --> 00:04:35,730 If you haven't done so, please subscribe to my podcast, 104 00:04:35,763 --> 00:04:37,098 Fyre Breath. 105 00:04:37,131 --> 00:04:39,867 That is Fyre with a Y. 106 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:45,706 So you can... [inhales] breathe in the light at home. 107 00:04:45,740 --> 00:04:47,074 -Sorry about that. 108 00:04:47,108 --> 00:04:48,976 I just got distracted with these cinnamon buns. 109 00:04:49,009 --> 00:04:50,845 -Meh. Don't worry about it. 110 00:04:50,878 --> 00:04:53,614 Wintress just gets protective of her sacred space. 111 00:04:53,647 --> 00:04:55,883 -Yeah, and it’s terms like sacred space 112 00:04:55,916 --> 00:04:57,718 why I will never be doing yoga. 113 00:04:57,752 --> 00:04:59,653 -Oh, I'm sure that's the only reason. 114 00:05:02,089 --> 00:05:03,791 -These cinnamon buns are magical. 115 00:05:03,824 --> 00:05:04,925 -Wait, how'd you get those? 116 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:05,993 I thought they were always sold out. 117 00:05:06,027 --> 00:05:07,028 -I got a guy. 118 00:05:07,061 --> 00:05:08,129 -Oh, of course you got a guy. 119 00:05:08,162 --> 00:05:09,563 -I got a guy. 120 00:05:10,698 --> 00:05:11,665 You want one? 121 00:05:11,699 --> 00:05:12,666 -I just worked out. 122 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:16,003 -Exactly. These calories cancel each other out. 123 00:05:16,037 --> 00:05:17,738 Come on. 124 00:05:17,772 --> 00:05:19,874 -Well, if the math works out, yeah, give me a little bite. 125 00:05:22,743 --> 00:05:25,513 Mmm. Those are magical. 126 00:05:25,546 --> 00:05:26,781 -Right? 127 00:05:26,814 --> 00:05:28,149 -Wait, you're not planning on eating all those today, are you? 128 00:05:28,182 --> 00:05:29,884 -Nope. These ones are for tomorrow. 129 00:05:29,917 --> 00:05:31,018 The coffee dunkers. 130 00:05:31,052 --> 00:05:33,788 -Mmm. A man with a plan. 131 00:05:33,821 --> 00:05:34,588 -Wait. 132 00:05:34,622 --> 00:05:35,456 [gasps] 133 00:05:35,489 --> 00:05:37,758 Birdie? Birdie Perez? 134 00:05:37,792 --> 00:05:39,060 -Kristin Duckburn? 135 00:05:39,093 --> 00:05:40,094 -I thought that was you! 136 00:05:40,127 --> 00:05:41,796 -Hi. -Hi! 137 00:05:41,829 --> 00:05:43,698 [laughs] 138 00:05:43,731 --> 00:05:45,066 -Well, I'm actually Birdie Case now. 139 00:05:45,099 --> 00:05:46,167 This is my husband, Alden. 140 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,102 -Hi. -Oh, hi. Guilty. 141 00:05:48,135 --> 00:05:49,003 -[laughs] 142 00:05:49,036 --> 00:05:50,504 -Hi. Sorry. 143 00:05:50,538 --> 00:05:51,539 Sunday cinnamon buns are a bit of a commitment. 144 00:05:51,572 --> 00:05:52,807 -I thought you moved to New York. 145 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:53,974 -I did, yeah. 146 00:05:54,008 --> 00:05:55,443 I moved back after my dad passed away 147 00:05:55,476 --> 00:05:57,044 to take over the family business. 148 00:05:57,078 --> 00:05:58,813 -I’m so sorry to hear about your dad. 149 00:05:58,846 --> 00:06:01,449 I work with my mom so I can seriously speak 150 00:06:01,482 --> 00:06:03,217 to family business and all that comes with it. 151 00:06:03,250 --> 00:06:04,952 -Ooh. I can't wait to hear about that. 152 00:06:04,985 --> 00:06:06,554 -Mm-hmm. 153 00:06:06,587 --> 00:06:08,222 -We should catch up. You wanna get drinks tomorrow? 154 00:06:08,255 --> 00:06:09,490 -You know what? Yes, let's do it. 155 00:06:09,523 --> 00:06:10,624 Let's make it dinner. 156 00:06:10,658 --> 00:06:11,959 We've got a lot of ground to cover. 157 00:06:11,992 --> 00:06:13,894 -I love it. Yes. 158 00:06:13,928 --> 00:06:15,129 You two should come over. 159 00:06:15,162 --> 00:06:16,731 Yeah, you could meet my boyfriend, Tom. 160 00:06:16,764 --> 00:06:18,499 We've only been dating a couple months, 161 00:06:18,532 --> 00:06:20,568 but I feel like if he can handle a couple high school stories 162 00:06:20,601 --> 00:06:23,070 between us, he might be a keeper. 163 00:06:23,104 --> 00:06:25,973 -Well, we will try not to scare him off. 164 00:06:26,006 --> 00:06:27,675 That sounds super fun. 165 00:06:27,708 --> 00:06:28,843 -Yeah. 166 00:06:28,876 --> 00:06:30,578 -Right, wouldn’t it, hon? 167 00:06:30,611 --> 00:06:31,912 -Yeah, that's super fun. 168 00:06:31,946 --> 00:06:34,882 -Text me and we will iron out the details. 169 00:06:34,915 --> 00:06:35,950 -Great. 170 00:06:35,983 --> 00:06:36,951 -Okay, bye. -Bye. 171 00:06:36,984 --> 00:06:37,785 Nice to meet you. 172 00:06:37,818 --> 00:06:38,819 -Yeah. 173 00:06:38,853 --> 00:06:39,854 -Aww. 174 00:06:41,922 --> 00:06:45,159 -She was a friend of yours from high school? 175 00:06:45,192 --> 00:06:46,260 -Kind of. 176 00:06:46,293 --> 00:06:48,629 You know, we had a healthy rivalry. 177 00:06:48,662 --> 00:06:50,731 I mean, technically I had a higher GPA, 178 00:06:50,765 --> 00:06:52,900 but the principal rounded up a decimal point, 179 00:06:52,933 --> 00:06:55,269 so we were co-valedictorians. 180 00:06:55,302 --> 00:06:57,171 -And we're happy that she's back? 181 00:06:57,204 --> 00:06:59,740 -Yes, babe. This is how we make friends. 182 00:07:00,641 --> 00:07:03,577 [disco music playing] 183 00:07:05,579 --> 00:07:07,882 -* It’s a beautiful day for cinnamon buns. * 184 00:07:09,683 --> 00:07:10,651 * Ow! * 185 00:07:11,652 --> 00:07:14,055 * Papa’s gonna get some cinnamon buns. * 186 00:07:15,089 --> 00:07:16,791 * And pop them in my mouth. * 187 00:07:16,824 --> 00:07:17,992 * Dunk. * 188 00:07:18,025 --> 00:07:19,994 * 189 00:07:20,027 --> 00:07:20,895 [music turns off] 190 00:07:20,928 --> 00:07:22,029 What in the world? 191 00:07:24,165 --> 00:07:25,866 No. 192 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:27,168 No, no. 193 00:07:27,201 --> 00:07:30,037 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no! 194 00:07:30,071 --> 00:07:31,305 -What happened to the dunkers? 195 00:07:31,338 --> 00:07:33,007 -I don’t know. Something got to them first. 196 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,275 Oh, I can't even look. 197 00:07:34,308 --> 00:07:37,011 It's like a crime scene and not the fun kind. 198 00:07:37,044 --> 00:07:38,079 -Here, let me help you. 199 00:07:39,046 --> 00:07:41,782 -Ugh, gross. I feel so violated. 200 00:07:41,816 --> 00:07:43,651 I looked forward to that all week. 201 00:07:43,684 --> 00:07:46,087 -I'm sure it's a one off. 202 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,621 -Oh, and don't forget, we have dinner 203 00:07:47,655 --> 00:07:50,157 with Kristin and her boyfriend Tom tonight. 204 00:07:50,191 --> 00:07:51,826 -How could I forget? 205 00:07:54,729 --> 00:07:56,764 What kinda name is Tom, anyway? 206 00:07:56,797 --> 00:07:59,233 Is he gonna float a raft down the Mississippi River? 207 00:07:59,266 --> 00:08:02,036 -I'm sure that Tom is a nice guy. 208 00:08:02,069 --> 00:08:03,304 And you know what? 209 00:08:03,337 --> 00:08:05,573 I'm actually happy to reconnect with Kristin. 210 00:08:05,606 --> 00:08:07,808 It will be good for us to make new friends. 211 00:08:07,842 --> 00:08:10,311 We don't exactly have the best track record, babe. 212 00:08:10,344 --> 00:08:11,712 -I have no idea what you're talking about. 213 00:08:11,746 --> 00:08:12,947 -After charades with the Marksons, 214 00:08:12,980 --> 00:08:15,583 I think we're just lucky that they accepted your apology. 215 00:08:15,616 --> 00:08:17,151 -Uh... our apology. 216 00:08:19,286 --> 00:08:20,821 -I'll see you after work. 217 00:08:25,126 --> 00:08:26,861 -Her hair will grow back eventually. 218 00:08:28,362 --> 00:08:29,930 -Where are you? 219 00:08:29,964 --> 00:08:32,867 Where are you, where are you, where are you? 220 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:34,735 Ah, yes. Okay. 221 00:08:36,237 --> 00:08:37,605 Come on. 222 00:08:38,239 --> 00:08:41,308 Uh... keys, keys, keys. Okay. 223 00:08:41,342 --> 00:08:43,677 One of you has gotta work. Right? 224 00:08:44,945 --> 00:08:45,946 -Birdie? 225 00:08:45,980 --> 00:08:46,781 -Yeah. 226 00:08:46,814 --> 00:08:48,215 -Where are you with the Wagner case? 227 00:08:48,249 --> 00:08:49,817 -Oh, I'm nearly done. 228 00:08:49,850 --> 00:08:51,685 Just waiting for their counsel to send revisions. 229 00:08:51,719 --> 00:08:53,020 Should be good by the end of the week. 230 00:08:53,054 --> 00:08:55,222 -Okay, well, send them to me as soon as you can. 231 00:08:55,256 --> 00:08:56,257 -Okay. 232 00:08:56,290 --> 00:08:57,725 Okay, that’s not gonna work. 233 00:08:57,758 --> 00:08:59,026 -I don't need them that badly. 234 00:08:59,060 --> 00:09:00,227 -No, no, no. 235 00:09:00,261 --> 00:09:02,897 I'm looking for a hairpin or a paperclip. 236 00:09:02,930 --> 00:09:04,732 -Oh... here. 237 00:09:05,766 --> 00:09:08,135 -Oh, perfect. Thank you. 238 00:09:08,169 --> 00:09:09,270 -Are you going to pick the lock? 239 00:09:09,303 --> 00:09:11,706 -I mean... I've never done it before. 240 00:09:11,739 --> 00:09:14,942 But, you know, on TV it seems pretty straightforward. 241 00:09:14,975 --> 00:09:15,876 -I'll call a locksmith. 242 00:09:15,910 --> 00:09:17,978 -No, no, no, no, no. I got it, I got it. 243 00:09:18,012 --> 00:09:19,113 Thank you. I got it. 244 00:09:20,414 --> 00:09:26,987 I... 100 percent... totally... got it. 245 00:09:27,021 --> 00:09:28,022 [sighs] 246 00:09:31,425 --> 00:09:32,793 You know what? 247 00:09:35,830 --> 00:09:40,901 Let’s see. Lock picking for beginners. 248 00:09:43,037 --> 00:09:44,038 Yes. 249 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,409 -[Birdie] I’m a little nervous. -[Alden] Me too. 250 00:09:48,442 --> 00:09:49,777 [both chuckling] 251 00:09:50,444 --> 00:09:52,646 [knocks on door rhythmically] 252 00:09:57,785 --> 00:09:59,453 -This outfit looks really good on you. 253 00:09:59,487 --> 00:10:01,389 -I look like an unemployed funeral director. 254 00:10:01,422 --> 00:10:03,190 -You look handsome. 255 00:10:04,725 --> 00:10:06,093 Thank you for doing this. 256 00:10:06,127 --> 00:10:07,261 -Of course. 257 00:10:07,294 --> 00:10:10,264 My favorite hobby is making you happy. 258 00:10:10,297 --> 00:10:11,432 -Are you flirting with me? 259 00:10:11,465 --> 00:10:13,034 -I don’t know, maybe. 260 00:10:14,935 --> 00:10:15,703 -Hey, guys. 261 00:10:15,736 --> 00:10:16,971 -Hi. -Come on in. 262 00:10:17,004 --> 00:10:18,205 -Thank you. 263 00:10:18,239 --> 00:10:21,308 -Sorry. Tom called from work, he's gonna be a little late. 264 00:10:21,342 --> 00:10:22,376 -Oh, no problem. 265 00:10:22,410 --> 00:10:23,444 -Can I get you some wine? 266 00:10:23,477 --> 00:10:24,879 -Yes, please. 267 00:10:24,912 --> 00:10:26,680 -I'll stick with the old sarsaparilla. 268 00:10:27,948 --> 00:10:28,949 -Great. 269 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:30,985 Uh... wine for Birdie, then. 270 00:10:35,356 --> 00:10:37,458 -So, how long has it been? 271 00:10:37,491 --> 00:10:40,728 -Oh, wow. It’s, like, 20 years. 272 00:10:40,761 --> 00:10:42,963 -Well, you look exactly the same. 273 00:10:42,997 --> 00:10:45,132 -My gosh, you’re so sweet. You look the same too. 274 00:10:45,166 --> 00:10:46,333 -Oh, thank you. 275 00:10:46,367 --> 00:10:48,002 -You must have amazing skin care. 276 00:10:48,035 --> 00:10:48,936 -Eye cream. 277 00:10:48,969 --> 00:10:50,104 -No way. 278 00:10:52,206 --> 00:10:53,240 Babe! 279 00:10:53,941 --> 00:10:56,177 She's got Laurel St. James's book. 280 00:10:56,210 --> 00:10:59,213 Wait. Do you like murder? 281 00:10:59,246 --> 00:11:03,084 -Yeah. [chuckles] I guess. 282 00:11:03,117 --> 00:11:04,819 Laurel is actually one of our authors. 283 00:11:04,852 --> 00:11:07,988 We published that book. She's one of our bestsellers. 284 00:11:08,022 --> 00:11:09,857 Probably the only reason why we're still in business. 285 00:11:09,890 --> 00:11:11,125 -Publishing sounds like a rough business. 286 00:11:11,158 --> 00:11:14,762 -Well, I'm fourth generation, so rough business is in my blood. 287 00:11:14,795 --> 00:11:17,932 -Oh. It's signed. Nice! 288 00:11:17,965 --> 00:11:18,366 -No way. 289 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:20,101 -Yeah. 290 00:11:20,134 --> 00:11:23,270 -Oh, I should introduce you. She records her podcast in town. 291 00:11:23,304 --> 00:11:24,238 -Great. -Oh... yeah. 292 00:11:24,271 --> 00:11:25,139 -Yeah. Sounds good. 293 00:11:25,172 --> 00:11:25,973 [doorbell rings] 294 00:11:26,006 --> 00:11:26,941 -Oh! It’s Tom. 295 00:11:27,408 --> 00:11:30,378 -Introduce us? What? 296 00:11:30,411 --> 00:11:31,278 -We’re gonna meet Laurel St. James. 297 00:11:31,312 --> 00:11:33,013 -Oh my gosh. 298 00:11:33,047 --> 00:11:33,981 -You know what, honestly, this whole having friends thing... 299 00:11:34,014 --> 00:11:35,015 it's not so bad. 300 00:11:35,049 --> 00:11:37,084 -See, I told you, and you're doing so, so good. 301 00:11:37,118 --> 00:11:38,018 -Thanks babe. 302 00:11:38,052 --> 00:11:40,821 -As promised... this is my boyfriend, Tom. 303 00:11:42,289 --> 00:11:44,458 He's a policeman. 304 00:11:44,492 --> 00:11:47,061 -Oh, we've... met. 305 00:11:55,903 --> 00:11:58,339 -Wow, so you solved the Lean McGuinnes murders? 306 00:11:58,372 --> 00:11:59,507 -Mm-hmm. Yeah. 307 00:11:59,540 --> 00:12:01,976 That's how we know Officer Air Quotes. 308 00:12:02,009 --> 00:12:03,577 Excuse me, Officer Newton. 309 00:12:03,611 --> 00:12:04,545 -You had it right. 310 00:12:04,578 --> 00:12:05,913 -You can call me Tom. 311 00:12:05,946 --> 00:12:06,947 -Tom. 312 00:12:07,948 --> 00:12:13,020 -So, Alden, you still into robots or whatever? 313 00:12:13,054 --> 00:12:14,255 -Oh, it's a very busy time of year. Yeah. 314 00:12:14,288 --> 00:12:17,024 We're seeing a lot of lesser known omnibots come to market 315 00:12:17,058 --> 00:12:19,326 while the frenzy over vintage shoguns has kind of died down. 316 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,331 Although I did get my hands on a rare Bandai Chogukin. 317 00:12:24,365 --> 00:12:25,900 Which is pretty cool. 318 00:12:28,602 --> 00:12:30,438 -I don't know what any of that means. 319 00:12:30,471 --> 00:12:32,139 -Yes, I'm still into robots. 320 00:12:32,173 --> 00:12:33,107 -Cool. 321 00:12:36,944 --> 00:12:39,313 Man, this might be the best root beer I've ever had. 322 00:12:39,346 --> 00:12:40,581 -I made that. -Mm-hmm. 323 00:12:40,614 --> 00:12:43,017 -You make your own root beer? 324 00:12:43,050 --> 00:12:45,853 -That is small batch, award-winning root beer. 325 00:12:45,886 --> 00:12:48,122 Award pending, I gotta send in the form. 326 00:12:48,155 --> 00:12:52,560 But, um... I could, uh... I could send you a case. 327 00:12:52,593 --> 00:12:56,497 -Oh, um... sure. Yeah, that'd be cool. 328 00:12:56,530 --> 00:12:57,898 -Cool. 329 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:01,068 -Well, cheers. 330 00:13:01,102 --> 00:13:02,269 -Cheers. 331 00:13:02,303 --> 00:13:03,404 -Cheers. 332 00:13:03,437 --> 00:13:04,605 -To robots and root beer. 333 00:13:04,638 --> 00:13:05,573 -[laughs] 334 00:13:05,606 --> 00:13:07,108 -To robots and root beer. 335 00:13:08,109 --> 00:13:09,577 I'm so happy you guys came over. 336 00:13:09,610 --> 00:13:11,078 -Me too. 337 00:13:11,112 --> 00:13:15,082 -Yeah. You know what? This, uh... this was fun. 338 00:13:15,116 --> 00:13:17,551 -Agreed. We... we should, uh... do it again sometime. 339 00:13:17,585 --> 00:13:18,519 -You bring the root beer. 340 00:13:20,187 --> 00:13:21,956 -Uh, hey. If you ever need a hand on a case, 341 00:13:21,989 --> 00:13:23,190 we are always happy to help. 342 00:13:23,224 --> 00:13:24,258 -Always. 343 00:13:24,625 --> 00:13:25,993 -[chuckles] I don't think so. 344 00:13:26,627 --> 00:13:29,030 Uh... but, hey... you never know. 345 00:13:30,264 --> 00:13:31,632 -So you're saying there's a chance? 346 00:13:31,665 --> 00:13:33,334 [all chuckle] 347 00:13:33,367 --> 00:13:34,235 -Ehh. 348 00:13:34,268 --> 00:13:35,436 -Your coat, milady. 349 00:13:35,469 --> 00:13:37,238 -Oh, what a gentleman. 350 00:13:37,271 --> 00:13:38,239 -Oh. Oops. 351 00:13:38,272 --> 00:13:38,973 -I got it. 352 00:13:41,142 --> 00:13:42,209 -What's with the rubber ducky? 353 00:13:42,243 --> 00:13:45,046 -Ah, my last name is Duckburn. Duckburn Publishing. 354 00:13:45,079 --> 00:13:48,115 It's our little logo. We give them out. 355 00:13:48,149 --> 00:13:49,183 Do you want one? 356 00:13:49,216 --> 00:13:50,651 -Uh... yeah. 357 00:13:50,684 --> 00:13:52,420 -Oh, great. I'll send you one. 358 00:13:52,453 --> 00:13:54,388 -Well, thank you so much for hosting. 359 00:13:54,422 --> 00:13:55,423 -It was so much fun. 360 00:13:55,456 --> 00:13:56,357 -Have a good night, you guys. 361 00:13:56,390 --> 00:13:57,224 -Cool. See you guys. 362 00:13:57,258 --> 00:13:58,192 -Bye. 363 00:14:00,995 --> 00:14:03,297 -Well, I think they liked you. 364 00:14:03,330 --> 00:14:04,298 -I can be charming. 365 00:14:04,331 --> 00:14:05,199 -[chuckles] 366 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,401 -Okay. 367 00:14:07,435 --> 00:14:08,469 -I'll see you tomorrow. -Bye. 368 00:14:09,603 --> 00:14:12,540 * Pull up in the getaway car * 369 00:14:12,573 --> 00:14:15,209 * before the sun's up * 370 00:14:15,242 --> 00:14:17,144 * 371 00:14:17,178 --> 00:14:21,348 * Last one standing, bleeding * 372 00:14:21,382 --> 00:14:25,486 * would take it too far. * 373 00:14:25,519 --> 00:14:27,521 * Call me a sinner * 374 00:14:27,555 --> 00:14:30,524 * Call me a saint * 375 00:14:30,558 --> 00:14:32,059 * It doesn't matter * 376 00:14:32,093 --> 00:14:34,295 * in this wicked game * 377 00:14:34,328 --> 00:14:42,069 * 378 00:14:42,103 --> 00:14:43,437 * When the world goes... * 379 00:14:43,471 --> 00:14:45,239 -Good evening Ms. St. James. 380 00:14:49,210 --> 00:14:52,580 -Swanson's yogurt. It's delightfully delicious. 381 00:14:52,613 --> 00:14:53,547 [different pronunciations] Yogurt. Yogurt. 382 00:14:53,581 --> 00:14:55,182 Yo...yo...yogurt. 383 00:14:55,216 --> 00:14:58,252 Swanson's yogurt. It's delight fully... 384 00:14:58,285 --> 00:14:59,220 [phone thuds] 385 00:15:01,622 --> 00:15:03,391 [clears throat] 386 00:15:03,424 --> 00:15:06,227 Look who it is. You took my yogurt, Laurel. 387 00:15:06,260 --> 00:15:07,028 I know it was you. 388 00:15:07,061 --> 00:15:11,198 -And it was delightfully delicious. 389 00:15:11,232 --> 00:15:12,066 -That's my line. 390 00:15:12,099 --> 00:15:15,536 Delightfully... delightfully delicious. 391 00:15:15,569 --> 00:15:17,271 -He's going over his time again. 392 00:15:17,304 --> 00:15:20,708 -Oh. I'm sure he's just finishing up. 393 00:15:20,741 --> 00:15:23,210 Oh, don't worry, love. I'm locking up now. 394 00:15:23,244 --> 00:15:25,346 The place will be all yours in just a moment. 395 00:15:25,379 --> 00:15:26,714 -[sighs] 396 00:15:26,747 --> 00:15:29,617 Nigel, I pay for a private studio starting at 9PM. 397 00:15:29,650 --> 00:15:30,751 -Yeah. 398 00:15:30,785 --> 00:15:31,952 -I have a very important show tonight. 399 00:15:31,986 --> 00:15:34,288 -You know, that reminds me of the time me and Ronny Wood 400 00:15:34,321 --> 00:15:36,190 were in a bowling alley in New Jersey. 401 00:15:36,223 --> 00:15:39,360 -Well, it's all yours, Your Majesty. 402 00:15:39,393 --> 00:15:40,461 -Oh, really? 403 00:15:41,495 --> 00:15:43,197 -Did you see that? I don't know how you do it. 404 00:15:43,230 --> 00:15:45,800 I don't know how you put up with that woman. 405 00:15:45,833 --> 00:15:47,435 Oh, it's too much. 406 00:15:47,468 --> 00:15:48,536 -Wait. 407 00:15:49,603 --> 00:15:53,574 It wasn't New Jersey... and it wasn't Ronny Wood. 408 00:15:53,607 --> 00:15:54,809 * When the world goes dark* 409 00:15:54,842 --> 00:15:58,212 -Whoa! It says here that we shouldn't be using seed oils. 410 00:15:58,245 --> 00:16:00,448 Apparently, they're terrible for you. 411 00:16:00,481 --> 00:16:01,449 -What? 412 00:16:02,550 --> 00:16:04,118 -I thought they were supposed to be good for you. 413 00:16:04,151 --> 00:16:06,587 -Used to be I guess and now they're not. 414 00:16:06,620 --> 00:16:08,489 Inflammatory to the gut or something. 415 00:16:09,824 --> 00:16:13,160 -Oh, come on. Stuff is falling apart. 416 00:16:15,296 --> 00:16:16,397 -Okay. 417 00:16:17,665 --> 00:16:22,803 I don't want you to freak out, but we may have an M-O-U-S-E. 418 00:16:22,837 --> 00:16:24,772 -Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 419 00:16:24,805 --> 00:16:26,807 Don't you even spell it. 420 00:16:26,841 --> 00:16:29,543 -Just calm down. It's gonna be fine. 421 00:16:29,577 --> 00:16:32,146 -No, it's not gonna be fine. 422 00:16:32,179 --> 00:16:33,247 -Let's just get some sleep 423 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,516 and we'll deal with the mouse situation tomorrow. 424 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,088 -Nobody’s sleeping tonight. 425 00:16:42,623 --> 00:16:44,191 Nobody. 426 00:16:45,860 --> 00:16:48,329 -[snoring] 427 00:16:50,398 --> 00:16:51,565 -Seriously? 428 00:16:52,633 --> 00:16:54,769 -Testing. Testing. One. Two. Three. 429 00:16:54,802 --> 00:16:57,338 Testing. Testing. One. Two. 430 00:17:01,142 --> 00:17:03,411 Welcome to another episode of Whodunnit. 431 00:17:03,444 --> 00:17:05,880 I'm Laurel St. James. 432 00:17:05,913 --> 00:17:08,649 On this, the final episode of Whodunnit, 433 00:17:08,682 --> 00:17:12,219 you're gonna hear the true story of the Roxdale Killer. 434 00:17:13,621 --> 00:17:16,857 We are gonna dive into the lives of the three victims. 435 00:17:16,891 --> 00:17:18,359 Monica Gainey... 436 00:17:18,392 --> 00:17:20,127 [keypad beeping] ...Caroline Olmstead 437 00:17:20,161 --> 00:17:22,363 and Alexandra Kolesnikoff. 438 00:17:22,396 --> 00:17:26,400 Innocent young women gunned down in the prime of their lives. 439 00:17:26,434 --> 00:17:29,336 You see, fate was a cruel master... 440 00:17:29,370 --> 00:17:32,206 for the victims of these senseless crimes. 441 00:17:34,308 --> 00:17:37,178 This episode is like no other, 442 00:17:37,211 --> 00:17:41,115 as I will finally reveal the truth behind the Roxdale Killer. 443 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,521 [gunshot] 444 00:17:54,195 --> 00:17:57,131 [dramatic music] 445 00:18:07,908 --> 00:18:09,744 [camera flashes whine] 446 00:18:14,715 --> 00:18:15,583 -What do we have? 447 00:18:15,616 --> 00:18:18,586 -Morning, Chief. Female, 54 years old. 448 00:18:18,619 --> 00:18:21,522 ID in the victim's purse said her name is Laurel St. James. 449 00:18:21,555 --> 00:18:22,890 Coroner's on the way, 450 00:18:22,923 --> 00:18:24,825 but cause of death looks to be a fatal gunshot wound. 451 00:18:24,859 --> 00:18:26,394 Found a bullet in the chair. 452 00:18:28,863 --> 00:18:32,266 -That's definitely Laurel. Keep this one close. 453 00:18:32,299 --> 00:18:33,534 There’s gonna be press. 454 00:18:34,235 --> 00:18:35,469 He found the body? 455 00:18:37,338 --> 00:18:39,473 -Yeah. That's the manager, Nigel Plumby. 456 00:18:39,507 --> 00:18:41,909 He closed up after 9:00 last night. 457 00:18:41,942 --> 00:18:43,444 She was here alone. 458 00:18:43,477 --> 00:18:44,945 He was first on the scene at 6:30 this morning. 459 00:18:44,979 --> 00:18:46,480 -Any security cameras? 460 00:18:46,514 --> 00:18:48,482 -Yep. But they don’t work. 461 00:18:48,516 --> 00:18:50,551 Broke last year, were never fixed. 462 00:18:50,584 --> 00:18:53,921 However... we did find this. 463 00:18:53,954 --> 00:18:57,291 -TRK. The Roxdale Killer. 464 00:18:57,324 --> 00:18:58,259 -You think he's back? 465 00:18:58,292 --> 00:18:59,493 -Let's hope not. 466 00:18:59,527 --> 00:19:00,861 Get the manager and everyone else 467 00:19:00,895 --> 00:19:03,798 who had access to the studio in for an interview. 468 00:19:03,831 --> 00:19:04,732 -Yes, sir. 469 00:19:09,637 --> 00:19:10,971 -[groans] 470 00:19:12,306 --> 00:19:14,942 -Hello. Good morning, sleepyhead. 471 00:19:14,975 --> 00:19:16,544 Let me know what you think. 472 00:19:21,048 --> 00:19:22,416 -Not bad. 473 00:19:22,450 --> 00:19:24,952 -Thank you. Well, I learned from the best. 474 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,588 Hey, you wouldn't happen to have my car keys, would you? 475 00:19:27,621 --> 00:19:28,956 -Yep. They're in my jacket. 476 00:19:28,989 --> 00:19:30,224 -Thank you. 477 00:19:31,759 --> 00:19:35,629 -[gasps] Oh, I saw it. It was huge. 478 00:19:35,663 --> 00:19:36,964 It had big red eyes and claws. 479 00:19:36,997 --> 00:19:39,633 -Okay, just calm down, babe. Take a deep breath. 480 00:19:39,667 --> 00:19:41,569 I'll go check it out. Okay? 481 00:19:42,970 --> 00:19:44,905 -Be careful. Those things have the plague. 482 00:19:44,939 --> 00:19:47,441 -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 483 00:19:47,475 --> 00:19:51,779 Well, I didn't find it, but... I did find these. 484 00:19:51,812 --> 00:19:53,681 -I will not have a repeat of the Camp Winnipesaukee 485 00:19:53,714 --> 00:19:55,816 sleeping bag incident of 1992, Birdie. 486 00:19:55,850 --> 00:19:56,884 I will not! 487 00:19:56,917 --> 00:19:57,952 -I know, I know, babe. 488 00:19:57,985 --> 00:19:59,220 Don’t worry, I'm gonna call the exterminator. 489 00:19:59,253 --> 00:20:02,857 -I need to buy some duct tape, some netting, some chicken wire. 490 00:20:02,890 --> 00:20:03,991 Possibly a harpoon. 491 00:20:04,025 --> 00:20:06,293 -Oh, yes. I think we might have a mouse in the house. 492 00:20:06,327 --> 00:20:07,528 Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. 493 00:20:07,561 --> 00:20:09,630 -Wait a minute. I'm talking crazy. 494 00:20:09,663 --> 00:20:11,298 I already have duct tape. 495 00:20:11,632 --> 00:20:13,834 -Good morning. We begin with breaking news. 496 00:20:13,868 --> 00:20:16,570 I'm outside the Studio 45 podcast studio 497 00:20:16,604 --> 00:20:18,372 where we're hearing reports 498 00:20:18,406 --> 00:20:20,875 of a homicide happening here late last night. 499 00:20:20,908 --> 00:20:23,744 My sources are telling me that the victim is famed 500 00:20:23,778 --> 00:20:27,615 true crime author and podcaster Laurel St. James. 501 00:20:27,648 --> 00:20:30,584 You may remember that Laurel St. James rocketed to fame 502 00:20:30,618 --> 00:20:32,887 with her reporting on the Roxdale Killer, 503 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,424 who allegedly killed three young women in the Boston area 504 00:20:36,457 --> 00:20:37,758 in the early 1990s, 505 00:20:37,792 --> 00:20:39,493 and that person has remained at large ever since. 506 00:20:39,527 --> 00:20:40,761 [phone ringing] 507 00:20:40,795 --> 00:20:41,762 -Hey. 508 00:20:41,796 --> 00:20:42,930 -Are you seeing what I'm seeing? 509 00:20:42,963 --> 00:20:44,098 -Yeah. This is crazy. 510 00:20:44,131 --> 00:20:45,366 You should check in with Kristin. 511 00:20:45,399 --> 00:20:46,667 -Yeah, yeah, I will. 512 00:20:46,701 --> 00:20:49,370 I cannot believe that Laurel St. James is dead. 513 00:20:49,403 --> 00:20:50,738 Oh, has the exterminator gotten there yet? 514 00:20:50,771 --> 00:20:53,374 -What? I don't need an exterminator. 515 00:20:53,407 --> 00:20:55,376 I'm literally fixing the problem as we speak. 516 00:20:55,409 --> 00:20:57,044 -Alden, he'll be there any minute. Okay? 517 00:20:57,078 --> 00:20:58,879 Please let him help. 518 00:20:58,913 --> 00:20:59,880 I gotta go. 519 00:20:59,914 --> 00:21:01,615 -Birdie, I... 520 00:21:01,649 --> 00:21:02,817 -[reporter] Could Laurel’s death be the work of 521 00:21:02,850 --> 00:21:05,386 the Roxdale Killer, and if so, why has he resurfaced now? 522 00:21:05,419 --> 00:21:06,654 [doorbell rings] 523 00:21:09,156 --> 00:21:10,725 -What's up bro? 524 00:21:10,758 --> 00:21:12,793 Your wife called about helping you out with a mouse. 525 00:21:12,827 --> 00:21:16,630 -Yeah. We're good, bro. We got it covered. 526 00:21:16,664 --> 00:21:18,799 -Well, she said it was an emergency. 527 00:21:18,833 --> 00:21:20,501 She mentioned you were threatening to, uh... 528 00:21:20,534 --> 00:21:21,936 burn the house down. 529 00:21:21,969 --> 00:21:24,638 -What? That's crazy. 530 00:21:24,672 --> 00:21:26,107 I’m not gotta burn the house down. 531 00:21:26,140 --> 00:21:27,708 You gonna burn the house down, bud? 532 00:21:27,742 --> 00:21:29,577 [robot] Not burning down the house. 533 00:21:30,611 --> 00:21:32,680 Yeah. He's not gonna burn the house down. 534 00:21:32,713 --> 00:21:34,548 Would that work, though? 535 00:21:34,582 --> 00:21:37,785 -I'm just gonna leave you my card just in case. 536 00:21:39,987 --> 00:21:42,390 -This is my house and I'll to protect it. 537 00:21:47,028 --> 00:21:48,129 -Crazy day? 538 00:21:49,497 --> 00:21:51,132 -Laurel St. James is dead. 539 00:21:51,165 --> 00:21:53,567 -Wow. I know who Laurel St. James is. 540 00:21:53,601 --> 00:21:54,969 That's big news. 541 00:21:55,002 --> 00:21:55,970 -Yeah. 542 00:21:56,971 --> 00:21:58,806 -Something else is bothering you. 543 00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:00,141 -We have a mouse in the house. 544 00:22:00,174 --> 00:22:01,609 -Oh, no. 545 00:22:01,642 --> 00:22:02,943 And with all Alden’s experience at summer camp, 546 00:22:02,977 --> 00:22:04,712 where the mouse climbed into his sleeping bag 547 00:22:04,745 --> 00:22:06,914 and the zipper got stuck and he and the mouse couldn't get out? 548 00:22:06,947 --> 00:22:10,117 -Yeah. So Alden is completely freaking out, 549 00:22:10,151 --> 00:22:11,786 so I called the exterminator, 550 00:22:11,819 --> 00:22:13,821 and now he's saying that he doesn't want the help. 551 00:22:13,854 --> 00:22:15,556 -But I thought you two were back on track. 552 00:22:15,589 --> 00:22:16,857 -We are. No, we are. 553 00:22:16,891 --> 00:22:21,662 It's just... he gets so easily distracted, 554 00:22:21,696 --> 00:22:24,632 and sometimes I feel like he isn't listening. 555 00:22:24,665 --> 00:22:28,436 -Well, sometimes listening is a two-way street. 556 00:22:34,175 --> 00:22:36,110 -It all started years ago. 557 00:22:36,143 --> 00:22:38,946 So me and Mick Fleetwood had just rented tandem bicycles. 558 00:22:38,979 --> 00:22:42,149 We were about to go Dutch on a baguette and jam, 559 00:22:42,183 --> 00:22:43,751 when suddenly we realized... 560 00:22:43,784 --> 00:22:47,955 -Wait, stop. Just walk me through what happened. 561 00:22:47,988 --> 00:22:51,959 -First you gotta understand that Mick was more of a chutney guy. 562 00:22:51,992 --> 00:22:52,626 Right? 563 00:22:52,660 --> 00:22:54,161 -What's chutney? 564 00:22:54,195 --> 00:22:55,963 -She took my yogurt. 565 00:22:55,996 --> 00:22:57,098 -She took your what? 566 00:22:57,131 --> 00:22:59,100 -It was delightfully delicious. 567 00:22:59,133 --> 00:23:00,868 -Why are you talking like that? 568 00:23:00,901 --> 00:23:05,106 -My podcast is called Fyre Breath. F-Y-R-E. 569 00:23:05,139 --> 00:23:06,607 We cover a variety of topics, 570 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,043 but mainly it's a beacon of light and truth 571 00:23:09,076 --> 00:23:10,478 for my listeners. 572 00:23:10,511 --> 00:23:11,746 -And did you know Laurel? 573 00:23:11,779 --> 00:23:14,515 -Well, I knew the vessel called Laurel. 574 00:23:14,548 --> 00:23:15,816 -Right. 575 00:23:15,850 --> 00:23:17,084 -Is this gonna take long? 576 00:23:17,118 --> 00:23:19,620 -I'm told you also have a true crime podcast. 577 00:23:19,653 --> 00:23:21,622 Was there any competition between you and Laurel? 578 00:23:21,655 --> 00:23:23,057 -Ugh. No. You shouldn't be looking at me. 579 00:23:23,090 --> 00:23:24,925 You should be looking at, well, the TRK. 580 00:23:24,959 --> 00:23:26,594 But this could be the work of the Pittsburgh Strangler. 581 00:23:26,627 --> 00:23:28,062 Or H. H. Stockman. 582 00:23:28,095 --> 00:23:29,263 I mean, we could have another Blueprint Killer situation 583 00:23:29,296 --> 00:23:30,231 on our hands! 584 00:23:30,264 --> 00:23:31,198 -What? 585 00:23:32,266 --> 00:23:35,536 -According to the synopsis of our current timeline, 586 00:23:35,569 --> 00:23:37,104 there are multiple outcomes, 587 00:23:37,138 --> 00:23:39,874 all dependent on each particular dimension. 588 00:23:41,776 --> 00:23:42,977 -We're good here. 589 00:23:44,311 --> 00:23:46,247 Enjoy your dimension. 590 00:23:48,716 --> 00:23:50,785 -Any luck deciphering any of that? 591 00:23:50,818 --> 00:23:52,686 -It's like they're speaking in a different language. 592 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,954 I didn't get any of it. 593 00:23:53,988 --> 00:23:54,755 -Me neither. 594 00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:56,724 I think we're gonna need some help. 595 00:23:56,757 --> 00:23:58,826 This case has already become front page news. 596 00:23:58,859 --> 00:24:01,562 I got reporters hounding me for updates. 597 00:24:01,595 --> 00:24:02,763 -Okay, so what are you thinking? 598 00:24:02,797 --> 00:24:05,833 -We have a little money in the budget to hire a consultant. 599 00:24:05,866 --> 00:24:08,936 You need to find someone who speaks their language. 600 00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:12,106 -Speaks their language? Did you listen to that? 601 00:24:12,139 --> 00:24:14,108 That’s like a new dimension of nerd speak. 602 00:24:14,141 --> 00:24:17,244 I don't know anybody that would understand... 603 00:24:19,613 --> 00:24:20,748 Oh no. 604 00:24:23,017 --> 00:24:24,652 [robot chatting] 605 00:24:28,723 --> 00:24:31,292 -That’s it. Nice and easy. 606 00:24:33,761 --> 00:24:36,063 There you go. Good boy. 607 00:24:37,331 --> 00:24:38,733 Come to papa. 608 00:24:38,766 --> 00:24:40,768 -Remind me again what the tinfoil is for. 609 00:24:40,801 --> 00:24:42,269 -I thought it was obvious. 610 00:24:42,303 --> 00:24:44,905 So we could track the mouse and hear its little footsteps. 611 00:24:45,906 --> 00:24:49,877 -Babe, all of this tinfoil is interfering with the Wi-Fi. 612 00:24:49,910 --> 00:24:51,345 -[sighs] 613 00:24:51,379 --> 00:24:52,747 -Oh, come on! 614 00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:53,881 -What? What happened? 615 00:24:53,914 --> 00:24:54,915 -Oh, no. Nothing. Nothing, nothing. 616 00:24:54,949 --> 00:24:58,619 Just, um... my mom sent me a red line document 617 00:24:58,652 --> 00:25:00,221 that I thought I was done with. 618 00:25:00,254 --> 00:25:02,089 -Oh, I don't know how you could think about work 619 00:25:02,123 --> 00:25:04,291 at a time like this. The house is under siege. 620 00:25:04,325 --> 00:25:06,627 -I'm not the one who didn't let the exterminator help. 621 00:25:06,660 --> 00:25:07,862 That is his job, Alden. 622 00:25:07,895 --> 00:25:08,829 -Oh yeah, and, you know, 623 00:25:08,863 --> 00:25:11,198 you didn't have to call him behind my back. 624 00:25:11,232 --> 00:25:15,336 -You were literally in the room. You just weren't listening. 625 00:25:15,369 --> 00:25:17,038 [doorbell rings] 626 00:25:17,071 --> 00:25:18,706 I have no idea who that could be. 627 00:25:18,739 --> 00:25:21,609 [gasps] Maybe the mouse ordered takeout. 628 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,248 -Listen. 629 00:25:27,281 --> 00:25:30,651 We're a little understaffed with the Laurel case and... 630 00:25:30,684 --> 00:25:33,387 -You need our help. 631 00:25:33,421 --> 00:25:34,755 -I already regret this. 632 00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:36,624 -Are we on the case? 633 00:25:36,657 --> 00:25:39,727 -Yes. You're on the case. 634 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,029 -[in unison] * Oh, we're on the case. * 635 00:25:42,063 --> 00:25:43,831 * We're on the case. We're on the case. * 636 00:25:43,864 --> 00:25:44,965 * We're on the case. * 637 00:25:48,369 --> 00:25:50,705 -All right, here's everything on the Roxdale Killer. 638 00:25:50,738 --> 00:25:52,773 And we didn't start digitizing files until the 2000’s, 639 00:25:52,807 --> 00:25:55,242 the Roxdale is in the 90’s, so we only have hard copies. 640 00:25:55,276 --> 00:25:57,945 -Wow. There's actually not a lot here. 641 00:25:57,978 --> 00:26:00,381 -Nope. That's what we got. And there's this. 642 00:26:00,414 --> 00:26:03,284 This has all the audio files from Laurel’s studio. 643 00:26:03,317 --> 00:26:05,352 Outtakes, episodes, even her murder. 644 00:26:05,386 --> 00:26:06,821 There is a lot on here. 645 00:26:06,854 --> 00:26:07,722 -Nice! 646 00:26:07,755 --> 00:26:09,123 -Nope. 647 00:26:09,156 --> 00:26:11,359 While we think there may be a connection 648 00:26:11,392 --> 00:26:15,730 to the Roxdale Killer, we still need to check on other suspects. 649 00:26:15,763 --> 00:26:16,931 Which, more importantly, 650 00:26:16,964 --> 00:26:20,234 brings us to why we're asking you to help with the case. 651 00:26:20,267 --> 00:26:22,236 We need your help interviewing potential suspects. 652 00:26:22,269 --> 00:26:24,138 -Why would you need our help with that? 653 00:26:24,171 --> 00:26:27,375 -Well, the interviewees are a little... how do I put this? 654 00:26:27,408 --> 00:26:28,342 Challenging? 655 00:26:28,376 --> 00:26:30,378 So meet me at the station tomorrow at 9AM. 656 00:26:30,411 --> 00:26:32,446 -Do you really think that the Roxdale Killer could be back 657 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,014 after all these years? 658 00:26:34,048 --> 00:26:37,284 -I don't know but we're gonna find out. 659 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,455 -Okay, so here are the first three victims 660 00:26:41,489 --> 00:26:43,124 of the Roxdale Killer. 661 00:26:43,157 --> 00:26:45,993 We have number one, Caroline Olmstead. 662 00:26:46,027 --> 00:26:48,863 Number two, Monica Gainey. 663 00:26:48,896 --> 00:26:53,134 Number three, Alexandra Kolesnikoff. 664 00:26:53,167 --> 00:26:55,870 -And our current victim... Laurel St. James. 665 00:26:55,903 --> 00:26:57,038 -Yep. 666 00:26:58,906 --> 00:27:01,108 Oh, we're doing purple string now? 667 00:27:01,142 --> 00:27:02,777 -Well, I buy whatever's on sale. 668 00:27:02,810 --> 00:27:07,748 This week it was purple, and I think it looks fantastic. 669 00:27:07,782 --> 00:27:08,916 -Fair enough. 670 00:27:08,949 --> 00:27:12,086 Okay, so... Between Laurel's podcast, 671 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,189 and her newspaper clippings, and her book, 672 00:27:15,222 --> 00:27:17,425 Laurel created a bit of a cottage industry 673 00:27:17,458 --> 00:27:19,060 around the Roxdale Killer. 674 00:27:19,093 --> 00:27:21,228 -But did she scare him out of retirement? 675 00:27:21,262 --> 00:27:22,396 Scissors. 676 00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:23,998 -Well... 677 00:27:24,031 --> 00:27:27,334 the note at the crime scene says 678 00:27:27,368 --> 00:27:30,337 "silence speaks louder than words." 679 00:27:30,371 --> 00:27:34,809 So maybe she was getting too close to identifying the killer? 680 00:27:34,842 --> 00:27:36,911 -That would be enough motive to come out of retirement, 681 00:27:36,944 --> 00:27:38,379 to shut her up. 682 00:27:38,412 --> 00:27:39,380 -It's just so weird. 683 00:27:39,413 --> 00:27:42,183 I cannot find notes from the first three victims. 684 00:27:42,216 --> 00:27:44,885 -I don't know. All right. 685 00:27:47,388 --> 00:27:50,257 -Whoa, whoa, whoa. What’s going on with the cans? 686 00:27:50,291 --> 00:27:52,393 -Ah, well... it's kind of a two-pronged approach. 687 00:27:52,426 --> 00:27:55,329 You see, the mouse runs into the cans, gets disoriented, 688 00:27:55,363 --> 00:27:58,499 and then straight into the trap and snap. 689 00:27:58,532 --> 00:27:59,633 I set it with some pecorino. 690 00:27:59,667 --> 00:28:01,435 You know, it's his last meal. I want it to be good. 691 00:28:01,469 --> 00:28:02,503 -Right. 692 00:28:02,536 --> 00:28:06,073 I see that you have a very clear vision with this, 693 00:28:06,107 --> 00:28:08,142 but I need your brain here, babe. 694 00:28:08,175 --> 00:28:09,910 This is a big deal. 695 00:28:09,944 --> 00:28:11,445 We have to get familiar with these files 696 00:28:11,479 --> 00:28:14,315 so that we are ready for our interviews tomorrow. 697 00:28:14,348 --> 00:28:18,352 We get to be detectives like the ones on TV. 698 00:28:18,386 --> 00:28:22,523 -Yeah. You're right, of course. Okay. Priorities. 699 00:28:22,556 --> 00:28:23,924 -Okay. 700 00:28:25,026 --> 00:28:28,095 -She took my yogurt. It was delightfully delicious. 701 00:28:28,129 --> 00:28:29,964 -But it isn't delightfully delicious, is it? 702 00:28:29,997 --> 00:28:31,198 -Well, it's... 703 00:28:33,934 --> 00:28:39,273 -I've tried said yogurt before, and let me tell you, 704 00:28:39,306 --> 00:28:41,242 it's... it's pretty terrible. 705 00:28:41,275 --> 00:28:45,446 So, Pat... what's really going on? 706 00:28:45,479 --> 00:28:47,848 -Yeah, Pat. 707 00:28:47,882 --> 00:28:50,117 -She's mean. 708 00:28:50,151 --> 00:28:52,086 She's a bully. 709 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:54,055 She creates this toxic work environment, 710 00:28:54,088 --> 00:28:54,922 and I don't like it. 711 00:28:54,955 --> 00:28:57,358 But, but, but I didn't kill her, I swear. 712 00:28:57,391 --> 00:29:00,227 Don't tell anyone. Please don't tell anyone. 713 00:29:00,261 --> 00:29:02,129 -It's hard for me to describe where I was, 714 00:29:02,163 --> 00:29:04,932 because time and space are not absolute. 715 00:29:04,965 --> 00:29:08,369 One’s perception of time is different than another person's. 716 00:29:08,402 --> 00:29:12,339 You can have multiple variations of the same instance. 717 00:29:12,373 --> 00:29:15,176 -Are you talking about time dilation? 718 00:29:15,209 --> 00:29:16,544 -Very perceptive. 719 00:29:16,577 --> 00:29:18,112 -You watch a lot of Titan's Odyssey? 720 00:29:18,145 --> 00:29:19,547 -I never miss an episode. 721 00:29:19,580 --> 00:29:21,082 -Oh, man. 722 00:29:21,115 --> 00:29:22,583 [both make humming noises] 723 00:29:23,484 --> 00:29:25,186 [both laugh] 724 00:29:26,187 --> 00:29:28,589 -So I says to Stevie Nicks, right... 725 00:29:28,622 --> 00:29:31,892 I says, I know what everyone's saying, right? 726 00:29:31,926 --> 00:29:34,528 But trust me, you just gotta lean into the scarf thing. 727 00:29:34,562 --> 00:29:36,030 [both laughing] 728 00:29:36,063 --> 00:29:38,232 -That’s so good. That’s so great. 729 00:29:38,265 --> 00:29:40,868 -So, so where were you two nights ago... 730 00:29:40,901 --> 00:29:43,037 between 9:00 and 10:00PM? 731 00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:44,939 -I was at home with Mother. 732 00:29:44,972 --> 00:29:46,040 -Ah, mother. 733 00:29:46,073 --> 00:29:48,075 -And she can vouch for that. 734 00:29:48,109 --> 00:29:49,610 -Uh, Mother's me cat. 735 00:29:51,078 --> 00:29:54,615 -I know you. Don't I? 736 00:29:54,648 --> 00:29:56,417 [talking over top each other] -I take your Sunday morning flow classes. 737 00:29:56,450 --> 00:29:57,451 -I swear, I thought there was another room. 738 00:29:57,485 --> 00:30:01,288 -The energy between you two is out of harmony. 739 00:30:01,322 --> 00:30:03,190 You both are speaking, 740 00:30:03,224 --> 00:30:06,027 but no one is listening to each other. 741 00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:11,232 -You and Laurel often recorded your podcasts on the same days. 742 00:30:11,265 --> 00:30:14,468 I heard that you two didn't really get along. 743 00:30:14,502 --> 00:30:17,338 Did you ever exchange more than words? 744 00:30:17,371 --> 00:30:21,075 -I could not bring physical harm to any creature 745 00:30:21,108 --> 00:30:23,477 on this realm or the other. 746 00:30:23,511 --> 00:30:26,580 -Well, word around town is you have quite the temper. 747 00:30:26,614 --> 00:30:29,550 Maybe you're not as zen as you'd like to come across. 748 00:30:29,583 --> 00:30:31,485 In fact, some people describe you as phony. 749 00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:32,620 -No! 750 00:30:33,621 --> 00:30:36,557 That's malicious gossip. 751 00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:39,560 You... you wanna search my... my things?! Huh?! 752 00:30:39,593 --> 00:30:43,030 My, my, my sacred space! Here, here, dig! Dig! 753 00:30:44,265 --> 00:30:47,234 -I think we're good for today. This has been great. 754 00:30:47,268 --> 00:30:49,937 That's it for now. Thank you so much. 755 00:30:56,644 --> 00:30:58,245 -Boop. 756 00:30:58,579 --> 00:31:01,082 -Aside from TRK, it could be the Kojack Killer. 757 00:31:01,115 --> 00:31:02,616 And I will say this again, 758 00:31:02,650 --> 00:31:05,553 the Blueprint Killer is a real possibility here. 759 00:31:05,586 --> 00:31:07,388 -Well, only problem with that is authorities believe 760 00:31:07,421 --> 00:31:09,390 the Kojack Killer died in 1972. 761 00:31:09,423 --> 00:31:13,694 And the Blueprint Killer... come on... that's so 2010. 762 00:31:15,162 --> 00:31:16,664 -Uh, let me ask you something. 763 00:31:16,697 --> 00:31:21,102 Now, if someone wanted to harm Laurel, 764 00:31:21,135 --> 00:31:23,003 who would that be? 765 00:31:23,037 --> 00:31:26,006 -Definitely the Roxdale Killer. And possibly her ex-husband. 766 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,142 -Ex-husband? 767 00:31:28,175 --> 00:31:30,277 -Peter St. James. Yeah. 768 00:31:30,311 --> 00:31:31,445 Laurel mentioned that she and her ex 769 00:31:31,479 --> 00:31:33,114 had a very contentious divorce... 770 00:31:33,147 --> 00:31:34,248 -Write that down. 771 00:31:34,281 --> 00:31:36,016 -And she said that he was the bane of her existence. 772 00:31:36,050 --> 00:31:37,251 On the record. 773 00:31:37,284 --> 00:31:39,053 -So just for our records, 774 00:31:39,086 --> 00:31:41,522 where were you that night between 9:00 and 10:00PM? 775 00:31:41,555 --> 00:31:43,624 -At home. Planning for my next show. 776 00:31:43,657 --> 00:31:45,059 Nothing special. 777 00:31:45,092 --> 00:31:46,160 -Can anyone corroborate that? 778 00:31:46,193 --> 00:31:48,295 -No. I live alone. 779 00:31:48,329 --> 00:31:49,430 -Okay, you know what? 780 00:31:49,463 --> 00:31:50,264 We're gonna leave it there for now. 781 00:31:50,297 --> 00:31:51,565 Uh, thank you for your help, Katie. 782 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:52,600 -Mmhmm. 783 00:31:54,568 --> 00:31:56,704 -By the way, I'm a big fan of you two. 784 00:31:56,737 --> 00:31:58,739 I'm actually doing a podcast episode tomorrow 785 00:31:58,773 --> 00:32:01,442 on my show on your last case, Lean McGuinnes. 786 00:32:01,475 --> 00:32:03,744 Would you guys wanna come by the studio for an interview? 787 00:32:03,778 --> 00:32:05,546 -Yeah! 788 00:32:05,579 --> 00:32:07,515 -Well, so long as we only talk about 789 00:32:07,548 --> 00:32:09,683 the Lean McGuinnes case and not this one. 790 00:32:09,717 --> 00:32:11,485 -Deal. See you tomorrow. 791 00:32:16,123 --> 00:32:17,191 -Ooh. 792 00:32:17,224 --> 00:32:18,459 -Don't touch that. 793 00:32:21,095 --> 00:32:22,363 Oh, here it is. 794 00:32:23,464 --> 00:32:25,633 Okay. Peter St. James. 795 00:32:25,666 --> 00:32:27,668 Looks like Laurel filed a restraining order 796 00:32:27,702 --> 00:32:29,403 during the divorce. 797 00:32:29,437 --> 00:32:30,738 Arrested for trespassing. 798 00:32:30,771 --> 00:32:32,106 -Trespassing... 799 00:32:32,139 --> 00:32:33,774 -And a couple other minor things. 800 00:32:33,808 --> 00:32:35,476 -Well, that's not good. 801 00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:37,478 Look, he's even in the right age range to be the Roxdale Killer. 802 00:32:37,511 --> 00:32:38,446 [gasps] 803 00:32:38,479 --> 00:32:42,616 What if Laurel was sleeping with the enemy? 804 00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:44,485 -That's juicy. 805 00:32:44,518 --> 00:32:45,820 -Okay, I'm gonna go check this guy out. 806 00:32:45,853 --> 00:32:46,654 -[in unison] Yeah, with us. 807 00:32:46,687 --> 00:32:47,621 -No, not with you. 808 00:32:47,655 --> 00:32:49,357 What is with you guys and personal space? 809 00:32:49,390 --> 00:32:51,325 We're not some crime fighting team that's gonna form 810 00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:53,494 an unlikely friendship and somehow become 811 00:32:53,527 --> 00:32:55,796 better people because of it. All right? 812 00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:57,331 -Tom! 813 00:32:57,365 --> 00:32:58,666 -[sighs] 814 00:33:00,167 --> 00:33:01,702 -We could be helpful. Okay? 815 00:33:01,736 --> 00:33:04,605 I mean, we do speak the language of the people. 816 00:33:07,475 --> 00:33:09,343 -Fine. You can come. 817 00:33:09,377 --> 00:33:10,678 Meet me there at 3:00. I'll text you the address. 818 00:33:10,711 --> 00:33:13,247 Do not go in without me. Understood? 819 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,115 -Understood. 820 00:33:14,148 --> 00:33:15,116 -That's not funny. 821 00:33:15,149 --> 00:33:15,783 -It was a little funny. 822 00:33:15,816 --> 00:33:17,084 -Ugh. Man. 823 00:33:17,118 --> 00:33:18,085 -Yes. 824 00:33:19,086 --> 00:33:19,754 -[Birdie] Okay, yeah. So I think this is it. 825 00:33:19,787 --> 00:33:20,388 -Uh-huh. 826 00:33:20,421 --> 00:33:22,556 -Peter St. James. -Yeah. 827 00:33:22,590 --> 00:33:24,125 -Okay, so I'm gonna ask him about the restraining order 828 00:33:24,158 --> 00:33:25,259 and the trespassing. 829 00:33:25,292 --> 00:33:27,862 -Sounds good, babe. How's it look? 830 00:33:27,895 --> 00:33:29,563 -You never miss an opportunity. 831 00:33:29,597 --> 00:33:30,631 -Never. 832 00:33:32,767 --> 00:33:34,001 -Air Quotes is late. 833 00:33:34,035 --> 00:33:36,670 -Yeah, well, we're just gonna wait here like we said we would. 834 00:33:36,704 --> 00:33:37,671 -Exactly. 835 00:33:37,705 --> 00:33:38,839 We should look around, go through his trash, 836 00:33:38,873 --> 00:33:40,174 get to know the guy. 837 00:33:40,207 --> 00:33:41,275 -That sounds like a terrible idea. 838 00:33:41,308 --> 00:33:42,276 -On it. 839 00:33:42,309 --> 00:33:45,346 -Alden. Alden! No. Just... ugh. 840 00:33:45,379 --> 00:33:47,214 [speaking Spanish] 841 00:33:47,848 --> 00:33:49,884 We told him that we would wait for him. 842 00:33:49,917 --> 00:33:52,586 Alden! Ugh. 843 00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:56,323 Alden. We have to go back. Come on. Alden! Alden! 844 00:33:56,357 --> 00:33:58,159 -Let's roll out. 845 00:33:58,192 --> 00:33:59,193 -[groaning] 846 00:34:01,328 --> 00:34:03,164 Alden. We should not be doing this. 847 00:34:03,197 --> 00:34:04,565 -I just... 848 00:34:04,598 --> 00:34:06,400 -We could get caught going through people’s trash. 849 00:34:06,434 --> 00:34:07,568 -It’s a lot warmer inside. 850 00:34:07,601 --> 00:34:09,336 [garbage can lid clatters] 851 00:34:09,370 --> 00:34:11,872 Come on in. I made snickerdoodles. 852 00:34:13,908 --> 00:34:15,609 -After you, honey. 853 00:34:19,847 --> 00:34:21,115 -Mmm. 854 00:34:22,583 --> 00:34:25,286 Mmm! These are delicious. 855 00:34:25,319 --> 00:34:26,687 -I know. 856 00:34:26,721 --> 00:34:28,289 -Surprised it’s taken you all so long to get here. 857 00:34:28,322 --> 00:34:29,690 -Why is that? 858 00:34:29,724 --> 00:34:32,727 -I'm the ex. I'm suspect numero uno. 859 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,261 -Did you kill her? 860 00:34:34,295 --> 00:34:35,563 [both chuckle] 861 00:34:35,596 --> 00:34:38,566 -Right for the jugular. That's my kind of man. 862 00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:41,168 No. I did not. 863 00:34:41,202 --> 00:34:42,403 [knock at door] 864 00:34:44,839 --> 00:34:47,441 -Hola amigo! Cookies? 865 00:34:50,478 --> 00:34:51,445 [glue rips] 866 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,748 Ow. 867 00:34:55,216 --> 00:34:56,484 -[groans] 868 00:34:57,551 --> 00:34:59,687 No, I'm good. Thanks. 869 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:00,921 Watch your arm. 870 00:35:01,822 --> 00:35:03,858 So... what'd I miss. 871 00:35:03,891 --> 00:35:06,827 -Well, I’m not shocked about Laurel's murder. 872 00:35:06,861 --> 00:35:10,765 And I get why you're asking. I have more than enough motive. 873 00:35:10,798 --> 00:35:14,301 Uh... but, Laurel, she took everything away from me. 874 00:35:14,335 --> 00:35:16,337 -Your divorce did seem quite contentious. 875 00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:19,473 -The way Laurel painted me, it made me sound like a monster. 876 00:35:19,507 --> 00:35:20,875 But most of it wasn't even true. 877 00:35:20,908 --> 00:35:22,910 Laurel, she had a gift of storytelling. 878 00:35:22,943 --> 00:35:24,478 -And the restraining order? 879 00:35:24,512 --> 00:35:27,314 -She threw me under the bus. That's what she does. 880 00:35:27,348 --> 00:35:28,816 Just ask Maxwell Kovack. 881 00:35:28,849 --> 00:35:30,751 -Who's Maxwell Kovack? 882 00:35:30,785 --> 00:35:33,254 -Sounds like you need to do a little more research. 883 00:35:33,287 --> 00:35:36,624 -Funny thing is, though, you know, a few weeks ago... 884 00:35:36,657 --> 00:35:38,492 she came by and she apologized. 885 00:35:38,526 --> 00:35:39,960 -What did she apologize for? 886 00:35:39,994 --> 00:35:42,697 -Oh, the end of our marriage. Her blind ambitions. 887 00:35:42,730 --> 00:35:44,665 How she made up things about me. 888 00:35:44,699 --> 00:35:46,400 -And where were you the night she was killed? 889 00:35:46,434 --> 00:35:47,635 -Book club. 890 00:35:47,668 --> 00:35:49,637 We were reading Like Water For Chocolate. 891 00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:50,938 It’s an incredible story. 892 00:35:50,971 --> 00:35:53,774 -Oh, Como Agua Para Chocolate. What a love story. 893 00:35:53,808 --> 00:35:56,410 The love between Tita and Pedro. But the betrayal. 894 00:35:56,444 --> 00:35:57,478 -I know! 895 00:35:57,511 --> 00:35:58,612 -One of you has to go. 896 00:35:58,646 --> 00:35:59,647 -She tried to get me to read the book. 897 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,015 -Yeah. -Go. 898 00:36:01,048 --> 00:36:03,284 -Well, we are gonna come over for a baking class. 899 00:36:03,317 --> 00:36:05,886 -Oh, yes. Those cookies... divine. 900 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,888 -Well, stop by any time. Maybe dinner? 901 00:36:07,922 --> 00:36:09,323 -Take care. Yeah, that'd be great. 902 00:36:09,357 --> 00:36:10,291 -Yeah. Okay. 903 00:36:10,324 --> 00:36:11,258 -What a great guy. 904 00:36:11,292 --> 00:36:13,661 -Did I or did I not tell you to wait for me? 905 00:36:13,694 --> 00:36:17,264 -Uh... well, he invited us in, actually. 906 00:36:17,298 --> 00:36:18,599 -Okay. The thing you're not getting is 907 00:36:18,632 --> 00:36:20,000 I'm responsible for your safety 908 00:36:20,034 --> 00:36:22,269 and I can't protect you if you don't listen to me. 909 00:36:22,303 --> 00:36:23,704 -I know, I know. We're sorry. 910 00:36:23,738 --> 00:36:24,772 It will not happen again. 911 00:36:24,805 --> 00:36:27,274 -Yeah. Paul Simon, it's not you I'm worried about. 912 00:36:27,308 --> 00:36:28,409 It’s Garfunkel here that concerns me. 913 00:36:28,442 --> 00:36:30,444 -All right, I don't think we need the name calling. 914 00:36:30,478 --> 00:36:31,846 -Just come on. 915 00:36:33,047 --> 00:36:35,483 -I'm sorry. Won't happen again. 916 00:36:35,516 --> 00:36:36,684 -Okay. I'll look into his alibi. 917 00:36:36,717 --> 00:36:38,285 You guys look into Maxwell Kovack. 918 00:36:38,319 --> 00:36:39,820 But I think it's safe to say that Peter's not our guy. 919 00:36:39,854 --> 00:36:42,056 -Sounds like a plan. Go... 920 00:36:42,089 --> 00:36:44,558 -Go... home. 921 00:36:44,592 --> 00:36:45,726 -He'll get there. -Yeah. 922 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,694 All right. 923 00:36:46,727 --> 00:36:47,695 -Oh, those cookies-- 924 00:36:47,728 --> 00:36:48,896 -Unbelievable! 925 00:36:54,735 --> 00:36:58,339 I'm coming for you little mouse. 926 00:37:09,483 --> 00:37:11,352 [whirring] 927 00:37:12,787 --> 00:37:14,321 -Oh, don't even think about going all in. 928 00:37:14,355 --> 00:37:15,423 I got you beat! 929 00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:19,427 -Big bird to baby bird. Anything on Kovack? 930 00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:21,862 -Nope. Nope, not yet. 931 00:37:21,896 --> 00:37:23,431 -Any mouse sightings? 932 00:37:23,464 --> 00:37:24,465 -Uh... 933 00:37:26,367 --> 00:37:29,403 Oh, um... no. Oh, you know what? 934 00:37:29,437 --> 00:37:32,640 Yeah. Yeah, I think I heard something by the couch. 935 00:37:32,673 --> 00:37:33,908 -On it. 936 00:37:38,112 --> 00:37:42,516 -I'll get him. Babe, you can trust me. 937 00:37:55,629 --> 00:37:56,430 -Alden. 938 00:37:56,464 --> 00:37:57,565 -[startled] Ah! 939 00:37:57,598 --> 00:37:58,933 -I have to tell you something. 940 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:01,035 -Okay. 941 00:38:01,068 --> 00:38:03,671 -I've been playing poker online a lot for a while, 942 00:38:03,704 --> 00:38:04,972 and I've been hiding it from you. 943 00:38:05,005 --> 00:38:06,907 And the story I kept telling myself was 944 00:38:06,941 --> 00:38:08,376 that this was just for fun, 945 00:38:08,409 --> 00:38:09,977 and that the secret wasn't a big deal, 946 00:38:10,010 --> 00:38:13,013 but any secret between us is a big deal. 947 00:38:13,047 --> 00:38:14,215 -Why didn't you just tell me? 948 00:38:14,248 --> 00:38:16,917 -Because I didn't want you to judge me for playing poker. 949 00:38:16,951 --> 00:38:19,453 -Birdie... 950 00:38:19,487 --> 00:38:22,957 I am the last person in the world in a position 951 00:38:22,990 --> 00:38:25,860 to judge someone for their extracurricular activities. 952 00:38:25,893 --> 00:38:29,930 I love you for your weird. 953 00:38:29,964 --> 00:38:32,433 In the same way that you love me for mine. 954 00:38:33,901 --> 00:38:38,572 -We are all or nothing and I am all in with you. 955 00:38:39,106 --> 00:38:40,875 -No more secrets though. 956 00:38:40,908 --> 00:38:42,376 -No more secrets. 957 00:38:44,445 --> 00:38:45,813 Well, there is one more thing. 958 00:38:45,846 --> 00:38:46,981 -Okay? 959 00:38:48,849 --> 00:38:50,584 -I'm really good at poker. 960 00:38:50,618 --> 00:38:52,486 -Like... how good? 961 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,657 -Like I turned 100 bucks into $28,983.16 962 00:38:56,691 --> 00:38:59,060 and I have a reputation online for being a ruthless shark. 963 00:38:59,093 --> 00:39:01,996 There are chatrooms dedicated 964 00:39:02,029 --> 00:39:06,100 to people complaining about how good I am. 965 00:39:06,133 --> 00:39:07,201 -Do we need to plan a trip to Vegas? 966 00:39:07,234 --> 00:39:11,138 -I can see a poker-themed adventure in our future. 967 00:39:11,172 --> 00:39:12,740 -Should we get back to work? 968 00:39:12,773 --> 00:39:13,741 -Yeah. Yeah, we really should. 969 00:39:13,774 --> 00:39:15,443 -Okay. 970 00:39:15,476 --> 00:39:16,977 So listen, I started going through Laurel’s audio files. 971 00:39:17,011 --> 00:39:18,079 -Okay, okay. 972 00:39:18,112 --> 00:39:20,581 -So far, big old snooze fest. 973 00:39:20,614 --> 00:39:21,882 -Really? 974 00:39:21,916 --> 00:39:23,617 -Yeah. Nothing at all. Here, listen to this. 975 00:39:25,019 --> 00:39:27,655 -[recording of Laurel] Ugh. These crackers taste a little stale. 976 00:39:27,688 --> 00:39:28,656 -Oh, you weren’t kidding. 977 00:39:28,689 --> 00:39:30,725 -Yeah. 978 00:39:30,758 --> 00:39:33,127 -[recording of Laurel] Ugh. There’s yogurt all over the place. 979 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,962 -Didn't need to know that. 980 00:39:34,995 --> 00:39:37,732 -[recording of Laurel] And that's why I don't valet park anymore. 981 00:39:37,765 --> 00:39:38,999 I just don't trust them. 982 00:39:39,033 --> 00:39:40,668 -They really gave us the raw files. 983 00:39:40,701 --> 00:39:42,036 -Yeah. 984 00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:43,938 -[recording of Laurel] You see, fate was a cruel master 985 00:39:43,971 --> 00:39:46,474 for the victims of these senseless crimes. 986 00:39:46,507 --> 00:39:49,643 This episode is like no other, 987 00:39:49,677 --> 00:39:54,115 as I will finally reveal the truth behind the Roxdale Killer. 988 00:39:54,982 --> 00:39:56,217 [gunshot] 989 00:40:00,788 --> 00:40:02,556 -That's huge. That is huge! 990 00:40:02,590 --> 00:40:04,625 She knew who the Roxdale Killer was. 991 00:40:04,658 --> 00:40:06,761 -I mean, it's certainly possible that she could have been killed 992 00:40:06,794 --> 00:40:08,562 for what she knew. 993 00:40:08,596 --> 00:40:10,931 -I just wish we could hear better. 994 00:40:10,965 --> 00:40:11,899 -I mean, these speakers are terrible. 995 00:40:11,932 --> 00:40:13,768 Uh... let me work on it. 996 00:40:13,801 --> 00:40:14,902 -Okay. Well, you know what? 997 00:40:14,935 --> 00:40:16,270 In the meantime, 998 00:40:16,303 --> 00:40:17,738 we can start putting people up on the board. Right? 999 00:40:17,772 --> 00:40:19,106 -Yeah. 1000 00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:20,775 -So I think we can both agree 1001 00:40:20,808 --> 00:40:22,576 that Wintress has definitely earned her spot on the board. 1002 00:40:22,610 --> 00:40:23,611 -Hard yes. -Right? 1003 00:40:23,644 --> 00:40:26,547 She and Laurel were known to dislike each other. 1004 00:40:27,615 --> 00:40:28,682 Babe, what is this? 1005 00:40:28,716 --> 00:40:29,850 -Well, I... 1006 00:40:29,884 --> 00:40:33,921 -Okay. Next up... we have Pat. 1007 00:40:33,954 --> 00:40:35,790 The voiceover artist. 1008 00:40:35,823 --> 00:40:37,191 -Delightfully suspicious. 1009 00:40:37,224 --> 00:40:39,960 -Katie Hiller, the other true crime podcaster. 1010 00:40:39,994 --> 00:40:41,195 She should definitely go up there too. 1011 00:40:41,228 --> 00:40:42,963 -Yeah, I mean, she's too young to be TRK 1012 00:40:42,997 --> 00:40:44,598 but it doesn't mean she didn't kill Laurel. 1013 00:40:44,632 --> 00:40:45,800 Could be a copycat. 1014 00:40:45,833 --> 00:40:47,234 -Exactly. 1015 00:40:47,268 --> 00:40:50,805 Oh, and let us not forget the ever-present studio manager, 1016 00:40:50,838 --> 00:40:51,972 Nigel. 1017 00:40:52,006 --> 00:40:54,041 How old do we think this picture is? 1018 00:40:54,075 --> 00:40:57,144 -Well, before color photos were a thing. 1019 00:40:57,178 --> 00:41:00,014 -So, Nigel found the body, 1020 00:41:00,047 --> 00:41:02,016 and he was the last person to see Laurel alive. 1021 00:41:02,049 --> 00:41:03,684 -Super suspicious. 1022 00:41:03,718 --> 00:41:06,153 -So what do we think about sci-fi guy? 1023 00:41:06,187 --> 00:41:08,089 -Yeah, I don’t think he could’ve done it. 1024 00:41:08,122 --> 00:41:08,956 The guy’s such a sweetheart. 1025 00:41:08,989 --> 00:41:10,658 -I know. 1026 00:41:10,691 --> 00:41:13,794 -Besides, Carweegians are notorious pacifists. 1027 00:41:13,828 --> 00:41:15,096 -Hmm? 1028 00:41:15,129 --> 00:41:16,697 -I may catch an episode of Titan’s Odyssey 1029 00:41:16,731 --> 00:41:17,832 from time to time. 1030 00:41:17,865 --> 00:41:20,034 -Okay. 1031 00:41:20,067 --> 00:41:21,702 All righty. 1032 00:41:21,736 --> 00:41:24,739 -We got ourselves a board. -We got ourselves a board. 1033 00:41:27,908 --> 00:41:29,143 Come on. 1034 00:41:30,745 --> 00:41:32,646 [groans] Come on. 1035 00:41:34,148 --> 00:41:36,350 -I think you left something in the conference room. 1036 00:41:36,384 --> 00:41:40,054 -Oh... that's very good deduction, Mom. 1037 00:41:40,087 --> 00:41:42,189 I mean, Eleonore. 1038 00:41:42,223 --> 00:41:44,759 -I gotta say, you and Alden on the hunt 1039 00:41:44,792 --> 00:41:47,661 for the Roxdale Killer... is exciting. 1040 00:41:47,695 --> 00:41:48,996 Do you really think you can catch him? 1041 00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:50,798 -I don't know. 1042 00:41:50,831 --> 00:41:54,902 It's just such an old case that I still don't feel like 1043 00:41:54,935 --> 00:41:56,370 we have the whole story. 1044 00:41:56,404 --> 00:41:58,939 -Well, you've gotta work with what's in front of you. 1045 00:41:58,973 --> 00:42:00,341 Step by step. 1046 00:42:00,374 --> 00:42:04,645 I know perseverance has always opened doors for me. 1047 00:42:04,678 --> 00:42:05,780 You'll get there. 1048 00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:11,185 -Perseverance. 1049 00:42:13,054 --> 00:42:14,355 You got this. 1050 00:42:16,057 --> 00:42:17,792 -And tonight, with no new information 1051 00:42:17,825 --> 00:42:20,628 on the possible return of the Roxdale Killer, 1052 00:42:20,661 --> 00:42:21,896 authorities are asking the public 1053 00:42:21,929 --> 00:42:23,998 to remain calm but vigilant. 1054 00:42:24,031 --> 00:42:26,200 -Okay, so she said Studio 1. 1055 00:42:26,233 --> 00:42:27,334 -This is so cool. 1056 00:42:27,368 --> 00:42:29,303 I mean, we're basically celebrities now. 1057 00:42:29,336 --> 00:42:31,272 -Well, I mean, we're doing one podcast. 1058 00:42:31,305 --> 00:42:33,808 -I'm a little nervous. 1059 00:42:33,841 --> 00:42:35,042 -Aww, you got this, babe. 1060 00:42:35,076 --> 00:42:37,678 Remember, I am always on your team. Okay? 1061 00:42:41,082 --> 00:42:43,350 -Katie? Hello? 1062 00:42:43,384 --> 00:42:45,119 She did say to meet here, right? 1063 00:42:45,152 --> 00:42:46,687 -Studio 1. 1064 00:42:47,455 --> 00:42:48,622 -Huh. 1065 00:42:50,424 --> 00:42:52,026 -Something doesn't feel right. 1066 00:42:52,059 --> 00:42:53,027 -What do you mean? 1067 00:42:53,994 --> 00:42:58,065 -I don't know. It's like... eerily quiet. 1068 00:42:58,099 --> 00:42:59,066 [door slams] 1069 00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,135 -[screaming] He was just here! 1070 00:43:01,168 --> 00:43:03,037 He was trying to grab me! I couldn't get away! 1071 00:43:03,070 --> 00:43:04,171 -Who was? 1072 00:43:04,205 --> 00:43:06,340 -The killer. The Roxdale Killer. 1073 00:43:13,481 --> 00:43:15,249 -You're safe now. It's gonna be okay. 1074 00:43:15,282 --> 00:43:16,384 -So scary. 1075 00:43:16,417 --> 00:43:18,152 -Okay, Katie. 1076 00:43:18,185 --> 00:43:21,188 Let's just start with the basics. 1077 00:43:21,222 --> 00:43:22,456 What do you remember seeing? 1078 00:43:22,490 --> 00:43:26,794 -Well... he was tall. I'd say around six feet. 1079 00:43:26,827 --> 00:43:28,062 -Mm-hmm. 1080 00:43:28,095 --> 00:43:31,432 -He was wearing a hoodie, but I could see he had brown eyes. 1081 00:43:31,465 --> 00:43:34,201 He had a low voice, but it wasn't suspiciously low. 1082 00:43:34,235 --> 00:43:36,404 It was like... average low. 1083 00:43:36,437 --> 00:43:37,805 -What's average low? 1084 00:43:37,838 --> 00:43:39,073 -Stop talking. 1085 00:43:39,106 --> 00:43:40,741 Uh... what's average low? 1086 00:43:40,775 --> 00:43:43,444 -Keep it locked to WNK, channel six, 1087 00:43:43,477 --> 00:43:44,945 your source for breaking news. 1088 00:43:44,979 --> 00:43:47,081 And we will bring you that update live. Travis? 1089 00:43:48,215 --> 00:43:49,350 That was pretty good. Hey? 1090 00:43:49,383 --> 00:43:50,985 -Excuse me. I'm so sorry to bother you. 1091 00:43:51,018 --> 00:43:52,253 -Hi. 1092 00:43:52,286 --> 00:43:55,122 -I noticed that you have a dashcam on your truck. 1093 00:43:55,156 --> 00:43:56,757 -Yeah? 1094 00:43:56,791 --> 00:43:59,193 -Could I ask you for a huge favor? 1095 00:43:59,226 --> 00:44:00,461 -Yeah. What's up? 1096 00:44:01,462 --> 00:44:03,030 -Okay. You sure you're all right? 1097 00:44:03,064 --> 00:44:04,265 -Mm-hmm. 1098 00:44:04,298 --> 00:44:05,366 -Okay. I tell you what. Why don’t you go home, 1099 00:44:05,399 --> 00:44:06,500 get some rest. 1100 00:44:06,534 --> 00:44:07,668 Come to the station in the morning 1101 00:44:07,702 --> 00:44:09,103 and we’ll have you work with a sketch artist. All right? 1102 00:44:09,136 --> 00:44:10,471 -Tom, do you mind 1103 00:44:10,504 --> 00:44:12,039 if I have a quick private chat with Katie? Please? 1104 00:44:12,073 --> 00:44:13,107 -Well... 1105 00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:15,242 -Absolutely. Take her away. 1106 00:44:15,276 --> 00:44:16,844 -Okay. 1107 00:44:16,877 --> 00:44:17,978 -Great. 1108 00:44:27,822 --> 00:44:29,357 I know you didn't see the Roxdale Killer. 1109 00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:32,460 -I did see him. He was right here. 1110 00:44:32,493 --> 00:44:34,762 He grabbed me. I didn't know what to do. 1111 00:44:34,795 --> 00:44:37,932 Then he ran when he heard you come in. 1112 00:44:37,965 --> 00:44:42,169 -Okay. We can rewind it from right here. 1113 00:44:47,007 --> 00:44:48,242 -That's Nigel leaving. 1114 00:44:50,177 --> 00:44:52,947 -Nobody entered or left the building in the 30 minutes 1115 00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:56,150 before we arrived or the 15 minutes after. 1116 00:44:56,183 --> 00:44:57,985 -I swear, I saw him. 1117 00:44:58,018 --> 00:45:01,522 -Katie. I'm an attorney, and a very good poker player. 1118 00:45:01,555 --> 00:45:04,859 I know when someone is lying. 1119 00:45:04,892 --> 00:45:07,028 -Oh, you have no idea how competitive it is. 1120 00:45:07,061 --> 00:45:08,963 There are so many true crime podcasts. 1121 00:45:08,996 --> 00:45:10,865 It's like... sometimes I feel like 1122 00:45:10,898 --> 00:45:13,968 I would do anything to be successful. 1123 00:45:14,001 --> 00:45:18,973 -Look... let me tell you that success at all costs 1124 00:45:19,006 --> 00:45:21,542 and keeping things from your husband, 1125 00:45:21,575 --> 00:45:23,411 who is now completely obsessed with catching a mouse, 1126 00:45:23,444 --> 00:45:25,012 even though he's the most adorable person 1127 00:45:25,046 --> 00:45:30,084 you will ever meet, is never worth it. 1128 00:45:30,117 --> 00:45:31,452 -How do I get out of this? 1129 00:45:31,485 --> 00:45:35,089 -We tell the truth. Together. Okay? 1130 00:45:36,957 --> 00:45:38,392 -Okay. 1131 00:45:38,426 --> 00:45:39,994 -Let's go. 1132 00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:48,002 [rumbling sound] 1133 00:45:56,177 --> 00:45:57,244 Alden? 1134 00:45:59,313 --> 00:46:00,815 Alden? 1135 00:46:02,283 --> 00:46:04,218 [sonar beeping] 1136 00:46:04,251 --> 00:46:05,553 Alden? 1137 00:46:06,187 --> 00:46:07,254 Alden? 1138 00:46:08,089 --> 00:46:09,190 Alden! 1139 00:46:11,392 --> 00:46:12,893 What is this thing? 1140 00:46:12,927 --> 00:46:15,229 -It's ground-penetrating radar. 1141 00:46:15,262 --> 00:46:17,031 I have to protect our castle, 1142 00:46:17,064 --> 00:46:18,499 that’s why I turned away the exterminator. 1143 00:46:18,532 --> 00:46:20,634 -Okay. I cannot believe that I'm saying this, 1144 00:46:20,668 --> 00:46:24,171 but I think Wintress is right. We are not in harmony. 1145 00:46:24,205 --> 00:46:25,272 -Oh, come on. 1146 00:46:25,306 --> 00:46:26,440 You're gonna believe that wing-nut? 1147 00:46:26,474 --> 00:46:29,243 -Says the guy with a ground penetrating radar machine 1148 00:46:29,276 --> 00:46:30,644 at 6:00 in the morning? 1149 00:46:30,678 --> 00:46:33,280 -Well, how else am I supposed to see into the floors? 1150 00:46:33,314 --> 00:46:34,281 -What? 1151 00:46:37,017 --> 00:46:38,519 -Birdie... 1152 00:46:38,552 --> 00:46:42,590 if we wanna catch this mouse, we have to up our game. 1153 00:46:45,026 --> 00:46:46,894 -Okay. 1154 00:46:46,927 --> 00:46:51,499 You know what? I... I said I was all in. 1155 00:46:51,532 --> 00:46:59,006 So... I guess I have to be all in with this too. 1156 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,942 -Birdie Case coming to the dark side. 1157 00:47:01,976 --> 00:47:04,045 -We have not been listening to each other. 1158 00:47:04,078 --> 00:47:07,081 But we are gonna start right now. 1159 00:47:07,114 --> 00:47:11,318 And if we are going to catch said mouse, 1160 00:47:11,352 --> 00:47:14,922 we are going to do it together. 1161 00:47:17,625 --> 00:47:19,193 Case style. 1162 00:47:26,467 --> 00:47:27,668 -I love you. 1163 00:47:32,406 --> 00:47:33,674 -Okay. 1164 00:47:37,078 --> 00:47:37,945 -Birdie? 1165 00:47:37,978 --> 00:47:39,980 -Oh, hi. Okay. So new plan. 1166 00:47:40,014 --> 00:47:43,384 These are humane. Nobody has to die on our watch. 1167 00:47:43,417 --> 00:47:44,919 Uh... pellets. Pellets. 1168 00:47:47,088 --> 00:47:48,456 -So it's a trap? 1169 00:47:48,489 --> 00:47:49,590 -Well, not so much a trap. 1170 00:47:49,623 --> 00:47:52,193 More like we're trying to contain him 1171 00:47:52,226 --> 00:47:57,098 so then we can liberate him amongst his own peeps. 1172 00:47:57,131 --> 00:48:01,535 -Okay. I think I can get on board with this. 1173 00:48:01,569 --> 00:48:06,040 -And now we just wait and see. 1174 00:48:06,073 --> 00:48:09,377 -In the meantime, I have something to show you. 1175 00:48:09,410 --> 00:48:11,445 -Really? -Mm-hmm. 1176 00:48:11,479 --> 00:48:13,280 -Okay. -Okay. 1177 00:48:13,314 --> 00:48:15,349 -To the desk. -Okay. 1178 00:48:15,383 --> 00:48:17,118 -And have a seat. 1179 00:48:17,151 --> 00:48:18,419 -All right. 1180 00:48:18,452 --> 00:48:21,355 -And... voila. 1181 00:48:21,389 --> 00:48:23,424 -[gasps] 1182 00:48:23,457 --> 00:48:25,226 That is so impressive. 1183 00:48:25,259 --> 00:48:26,727 -I traded some root beer to a roadie for Aerosmith 1184 00:48:26,761 --> 00:48:28,095 I met at a swap meet. 1185 00:48:28,129 --> 00:48:29,630 This guy’s actually a really big deal. 1186 00:48:29,663 --> 00:48:31,365 -That sounds on brand. 1187 00:48:31,399 --> 00:48:33,467 -So... you got me thinking 1188 00:48:33,501 --> 00:48:36,070 when you said that we hadn't been listening to each other, 1189 00:48:36,103 --> 00:48:38,639 and I realized that we hadn't been listening 1190 00:48:38,672 --> 00:48:40,041 to the recording of Laurel's murder. 1191 00:48:40,074 --> 00:48:42,309 I mean, sure, we've been hearing it. 1192 00:48:42,343 --> 00:48:44,345 But we hadn't been listening. 1193 00:48:49,150 --> 00:48:52,119 -[recording of Laurel] This episode is like no other, 1194 00:48:52,153 --> 00:48:55,723 as I will finally reveal the truth behind the Roxdale Killer. 1195 00:48:57,625 --> 00:48:59,493 [gunshot] 1196 00:48:59,527 --> 00:49:00,728 [squeaking sound] 1197 00:49:03,664 --> 00:49:05,566 -Whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you hear that noise? 1198 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:06,801 -Yeah. The thing right before the footsteps? 1199 00:49:06,834 --> 00:49:08,803 -Yeah. It was like a... like a squeak. 1200 00:49:08,836 --> 00:49:11,372 -It was more like a... like a wheeze. 1201 00:49:11,405 --> 00:49:13,307 -Who do we know that wheezes? 1202 00:49:15,443 --> 00:49:19,380 -Perhaps a certain podcaster who carries an inhaler. 1203 00:49:19,413 --> 00:49:21,015 -[in unison] Wintress. 1204 00:49:22,583 --> 00:49:24,185 -You know what this means. 1205 00:49:24,218 --> 00:49:25,453 We're gonna have to do some yoga. 1206 00:49:25,486 --> 00:49:26,587 -It's allergy season... 1207 00:49:26,620 --> 00:49:27,788 we're going to have to do some yoga. 1208 00:49:29,490 --> 00:49:30,791 -Mm-hmm. 1209 00:49:33,561 --> 00:49:40,267 * 1210 00:49:40,301 --> 00:49:44,538 * 1211 00:49:45,673 --> 00:49:47,775 -Babe! -What? 1212 00:49:48,342 --> 00:49:50,678 -I told you to dress accordingly. 1213 00:49:50,711 --> 00:49:53,447 This isn't the semifinals at Wimbledon in 1978. 1214 00:49:53,481 --> 00:49:55,216 -You said hot yoga. 1215 00:49:55,249 --> 00:49:56,584 When you’ve got thighs like this, 1216 00:49:56,617 --> 00:49:58,085 the people wanna see ‘em. 1217 00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:00,454 -Okay... just... don't. Don't take your shoes off. 1218 00:50:00,488 --> 00:50:02,456 -Fine. But I'm keeping the socks on. 1219 00:50:02,490 --> 00:50:03,290 -Okay, fine. 1220 00:50:03,324 --> 00:50:04,325 Just please don't get hurt, okay? 1221 00:50:04,358 --> 00:50:07,194 It's gonna get really hot in here, you can slip. 1222 00:50:07,228 --> 00:50:08,596 I mean, yoga could get dangerous. 1223 00:50:08,629 --> 00:50:12,533 -It's stretching. I think I'm gonna be okay. 1224 00:50:15,369 --> 00:50:17,204 -Oh, babe, babe. Here she is. 1225 00:50:19,774 --> 00:50:21,375 -[exhales] 1226 00:50:22,476 --> 00:50:25,212 Find your centre. 1227 00:50:27,615 --> 00:50:29,483 And now let's flow. 1228 00:50:31,185 --> 00:50:33,654 [all humming] 1229 00:50:37,625 --> 00:50:39,593 -[groaning] 1230 00:50:39,627 --> 00:50:41,729 -Babe... are you okay? 1231 00:50:41,762 --> 00:50:44,165 -Yeah. Feeling the flow. 1232 00:50:44,198 --> 00:50:45,900 -And release. 1233 00:50:45,933 --> 00:50:47,334 -[groans] 1234 00:50:48,502 --> 00:50:52,506 -We will now go into flow and get into the garland pose. 1235 00:50:52,540 --> 00:50:53,441 -Oh no. 1236 00:50:53,474 --> 00:50:54,475 -Babe. 1237 00:50:57,678 --> 00:50:59,280 -[sighs] 1238 00:51:01,282 --> 00:51:04,351 You can't be serious right now. What did they say? 1239 00:51:04,385 --> 00:51:08,589 Can you tell them again to fix it? 1240 00:51:08,622 --> 00:51:12,393 I don't care! Have them print it again! 1241 00:51:14,228 --> 00:51:15,329 What is the point of paying people 1242 00:51:15,363 --> 00:51:17,732 when I have to do it all myself! 1243 00:51:17,765 --> 00:51:19,734 [wheezing] 1244 00:51:21,402 --> 00:51:22,470 -That was the wheeze. 1245 00:51:22,503 --> 00:51:23,604 -I know, I know. 1246 00:51:23,637 --> 00:51:25,239 -[inhales] 1247 00:51:26,907 --> 00:51:31,312 Fyre is F-Y-R-E! 1248 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,248 -[groans] 1249 00:51:36,517 --> 00:51:37,551 -Babe! 1250 00:51:41,288 --> 00:51:44,425 -May the healing light of the white fire be with you. 1251 00:51:44,992 --> 00:51:48,229 -Babe. Babe, are you okay? 1252 00:51:48,262 --> 00:51:50,431 -Yoga is surprisingly dangerous. 1253 00:51:52,633 --> 00:51:54,368 -I mean, she's got serious rage issues. 1254 00:51:54,402 --> 00:51:56,303 -Yeah, and her wheeze sounds just like 1255 00:51:56,337 --> 00:51:58,906 that hissy squeaky sound on the recording. 1256 00:51:58,939 --> 00:52:01,776 Like... [imitating hiss and wheeze sounds] 1257 00:52:01,809 --> 00:52:03,477 -Okay, okay, okay. 1258 00:52:03,511 --> 00:52:04,512 -Yeah, we heard it on the tape just after Laurel's murder. 1259 00:52:04,545 --> 00:52:06,213 But I think it's more of, like, a squeak wheeze. 1260 00:52:06,247 --> 00:52:07,348 Like... 1261 00:52:07,381 --> 00:52:08,582 [imitating wheeze sounds] 1262 00:52:08,616 --> 00:52:09,917 -Oh, yeah, yeah. No, that's... that's good. 1263 00:52:09,950 --> 00:52:11,585 But it's a little bit more phlegmy, right? 1264 00:52:11,619 --> 00:52:13,721 It was like... [both imitating wheeze sounds] 1265 00:52:13,754 --> 00:52:14,722 -Oh, that's good, that's good. 1266 00:52:14,755 --> 00:52:15,956 [both imitating wheeze sounds] 1267 00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:16,924 -Yeah, like... [both imitating wheeze sounds] 1268 00:52:16,957 --> 00:52:19,860 -Okay, okay. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop... 1269 00:52:19,894 --> 00:52:21,796 whatever that is. Thank you. 1270 00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:22,897 It wasn't Wintress. 1271 00:52:23,698 --> 00:52:24,765 -What? 1272 00:52:25,566 --> 00:52:26,400 -How? 1273 00:52:26,434 --> 00:52:28,369 -Those aren't for you. 1274 00:52:28,402 --> 00:52:30,337 Wintress was in the hospital with an asthma attack. 1275 00:52:30,371 --> 00:52:32,506 Doctors and security footage corroborate her story. 1276 00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:33,674 [both groan] 1277 00:52:33,708 --> 00:52:35,843 -I suppose it does sound like a pretty airtight alibi. 1278 00:52:35,876 --> 00:52:37,912 -And can we go back to you guys doing a yoga class 1279 00:52:37,945 --> 00:52:39,480 on police business? 1280 00:52:39,513 --> 00:52:41,382 Which is kind of funny because I thought I asked you 1281 00:52:41,415 --> 00:52:43,484 to sift through the audio outtakes. 1282 00:52:43,517 --> 00:52:45,553 I need you two to listen to me. 1283 00:52:45,586 --> 00:52:46,554 -Yes, sir. 1284 00:52:46,587 --> 00:52:47,722 -Tom. -Tom. 1285 00:52:49,323 --> 00:52:50,291 What are those? 1286 00:52:50,324 --> 00:52:51,559 -Laurel's mail. 1287 00:52:51,592 --> 00:52:53,594 I mean, you guys have so much time on your hands, feel free. 1288 00:52:54,995 --> 00:52:56,464 No. 1289 00:52:56,497 --> 00:52:57,832 And why are your legs so pale? 1290 00:52:57,865 --> 00:53:01,402 -Huh. At least I'm not sitting around a desk all day. 1291 00:53:01,435 --> 00:53:02,703 -What is it you think I do? 1292 00:53:02,737 --> 00:53:04,305 -I don’t know. 1293 00:53:04,338 --> 00:53:06,340 Talk about your hunches or why things don't add up. 1294 00:53:06,374 --> 00:53:08,476 Tell people “I'll look into that”. 1295 00:53:08,509 --> 00:53:10,010 -I don’t say that. So, Wintress is out. 1296 00:53:10,044 --> 00:53:12,580 Where are we at with Maxwell Kovack? 1297 00:53:12,613 --> 00:53:14,949 -Uh... we might have got a little distracted 1298 00:53:14,982 --> 00:53:16,450 with the Wintress theory. 1299 00:53:16,484 --> 00:53:17,818 -Yeah, but you know what? 1300 00:53:17,852 --> 00:53:19,587 I am going to look at Laurel's previous articles 1301 00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:22,556 to see if she mentioned him right when we leave here. 1302 00:53:22,590 --> 00:53:27,328 -Okay. And since you're here... look at this. 1303 00:53:27,361 --> 00:53:29,330 Medical Examiner report for Laurel's death. 1304 00:53:29,363 --> 00:53:30,531 Gunshot wound. 1305 00:53:30,564 --> 00:53:33,401 She had stage four adenocarcinoma. 1306 00:53:33,434 --> 00:53:35,302 -In her pancreas and lungs. 1307 00:53:35,336 --> 00:53:38,005 -Yeah. So if the gunshot doesn't get her... 1308 00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:39,807 cancer does in the next two, three months. 1309 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,042 -[whistles] 1310 00:53:41,075 --> 00:53:42,777 Well, that might explain the spiritual awakening 1311 00:53:42,810 --> 00:53:43,911 that Peter mentioned. 1312 00:53:43,944 --> 00:53:45,479 -Oh! That reminds me. 1313 00:53:45,513 --> 00:53:46,781 Can you see if your records have any mention 1314 00:53:46,814 --> 00:53:49,517 of the Roxdale Killer leaving notes behind? 1315 00:53:49,550 --> 00:53:51,419 For some reason, I cannot find any mention of them 1316 00:53:51,452 --> 00:53:52,620 in the victim files. 1317 00:53:52,653 --> 00:53:53,788 -Sure thing. I'll look into that. 1318 00:53:53,821 --> 00:53:56,924 -Ah-ha! So you do say that. 1319 00:53:58,426 --> 00:53:59,760 -We'll see ourselves out. 1320 00:54:00,728 --> 00:54:01,796 -I had a hunch. 1321 00:54:04,932 --> 00:54:09,003 -Well... I guess we can take Wintress off the board. 1322 00:54:09,036 --> 00:54:11,839 -Okay. I have assembled the brain trust. 1323 00:54:11,872 --> 00:54:12,973 -Gentlemen. 1324 00:54:13,007 --> 00:54:14,408 -And lady. Where do we start? 1325 00:54:14,442 --> 00:54:16,444 -Maxwell Kovack. -Kovack. 1326 00:54:16,477 --> 00:54:17,678 -Okay, I'll start in the past. 1327 00:54:17,712 --> 00:54:19,547 You start in the present where I left off the other night. 1328 00:54:19,580 --> 00:54:20,815 Where does he live? Where does he work? 1329 00:54:20,848 --> 00:54:22,450 Where does he eat? 1330 00:54:22,483 --> 00:54:25,553 And I will see what Laurel said about him in her articles. 1331 00:54:25,586 --> 00:54:26,420 -On it. 1332 00:54:26,454 --> 00:54:28,122 How many Maxwell Kovacks can there be? 1333 00:54:28,155 --> 00:54:29,890 It’s not that common a name, is it? 1334 00:54:29,924 --> 00:54:31,525 -Oh, here's something. 1335 00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:33,127 In one of Laurel's early articles 1336 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,662 about the Roxdale Killer, 1337 00:54:34,695 --> 00:54:36,997 she talks about the mayor assembling a task force 1338 00:54:37,031 --> 00:54:38,699 to investigate. 1339 00:54:38,733 --> 00:54:41,569 The mayor said, "We understand the public’s fear 1340 00:54:41,602 --> 00:54:44,405 "and are taking this case very seriously." 1341 00:54:44,438 --> 00:54:46,073 -Well, nothing scares the public more 1342 00:54:46,107 --> 00:54:47,808 than a serial killer on the loose. 1343 00:54:47,842 --> 00:54:49,443 -Nope. 1344 00:54:49,477 --> 00:54:50,978 And here's something else. 1345 00:54:51,011 --> 00:54:52,513 A few weeks after that, 1346 00:54:52,546 --> 00:54:55,783 Laurel wrote another article about missing evidence. 1347 00:54:55,816 --> 00:54:58,519 She says that Officer Kovack botched the investigation. 1348 00:54:58,552 --> 00:55:00,688 She calls him out by name. 1349 00:55:00,721 --> 00:55:03,991 -You guys hear this? The plot thickens. 1350 00:55:04,025 --> 00:55:06,560 -Okay, so a few weeks after that, 1351 00:55:06,594 --> 00:55:11,732 Officer Maxwell Kovack is let go from the police department. 1352 00:55:11,766 --> 00:55:13,534 -Well, I'd say that's a pretty good reason 1353 00:55:13,567 --> 00:55:15,102 for someone to hold a grudge against Laurel. 1354 00:55:15,136 --> 00:55:17,805 That goes... on the board. 1355 00:55:17,838 --> 00:55:18,739 -Yep. 1356 00:55:19,740 --> 00:55:22,977 Welcome to the murder board, Officer Kovack. 1357 00:55:23,010 --> 00:55:25,012 -Okay, boom! Here we go. Got it. 1358 00:55:25,046 --> 00:55:26,847 Maxwell Kovack. 1359 00:55:26,881 --> 00:55:28,182 All right, there's three of them in our area, 1360 00:55:28,215 --> 00:55:30,184 but only one of them fits the age range. 1361 00:55:30,217 --> 00:55:35,489 He lives at the Hampton Hills Assisted Living. 1362 00:55:35,523 --> 00:55:38,025 A community to live your fullest life. 1363 00:55:38,059 --> 00:55:39,694 -Check out the events calendar. 1364 00:55:40,695 --> 00:55:43,631 -Sit and Stretch with Brittney. Party on. 1365 00:55:44,031 --> 00:55:46,000 -Salsa dancing with Vanessa Ramos. 1366 00:55:47,902 --> 00:55:50,037 I have an idea. 1367 00:55:50,071 --> 00:55:51,038 -What? 1368 00:55:53,474 --> 00:55:54,709 -Bingo. 1369 00:55:55,776 --> 00:55:59,013 Hi, Vanessa. Yeah, this is Karen McAmber. 1370 00:55:59,046 --> 00:56:02,616 I'm the assistant activities director here at Hampton Health. 1371 00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:05,653 Unfortunately, we're gonna have to cancel salsa class tomorrow. 1372 00:56:05,686 --> 00:56:06,387 Mm-hmm. 1373 00:56:06,420 --> 00:56:08,656 Due to a leak on the dance floor. 1374 00:56:08,689 --> 00:56:11,025 I know, I'm so sorry about that. 1375 00:56:11,058 --> 00:56:12,893 Okay. Goodbye, dear. 1376 00:56:13,794 --> 00:56:15,129 -Okay. I have no idea what you're cooking up, 1377 00:56:15,162 --> 00:56:16,897 but I am loving it. 1378 00:56:16,931 --> 00:56:18,733 -Oh, you just wait. 1379 00:56:20,735 --> 00:56:22,503 Hi. Yes, this is Vanessa Ramos. 1380 00:56:22,536 --> 00:56:24,672 Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be able to come and teach 1381 00:56:24,705 --> 00:56:27,775 salsa class tomorrow, but I do have a replacement. 1382 00:56:27,808 --> 00:56:30,478 Yep. Yeah, yeah. She's a wonderful teacher. 1383 00:56:30,511 --> 00:56:32,012 She actually teaches with her husband. 1384 00:56:32,947 --> 00:56:35,583 Yes. Their names are Birdie and Alden Case. 1385 00:56:35,616 --> 00:56:37,251 Great. Sounds good. 1386 00:56:37,284 --> 00:56:39,053 They'll be there. Bye-bye. 1387 00:56:39,086 --> 00:56:40,821 -[laughs] 1388 00:56:40,855 --> 00:56:43,591 -Time to put on your dancing shoes. 1389 00:56:51,098 --> 00:56:57,838 * 1390 00:56:57,872 --> 00:57:01,976 Hola. Buenos Dias. I am Birdie. 1391 00:57:02,009 --> 00:57:02,943 -Y Alden. 1392 00:57:02,977 --> 00:57:03,811 -Case. 1393 00:57:03,844 --> 00:57:07,648 And we are here to teach the salsa class. 1394 00:57:07,681 --> 00:57:09,216 -Yes. 1395 00:57:09,250 --> 00:57:12,119 -Hello. Please sign in. 1396 00:57:12,153 --> 00:57:13,521 -[speaking Spanish] 1397 00:57:15,756 --> 00:57:17,058 Babe, look. 1398 00:57:17,091 --> 00:57:20,261 Laurel was here visiting Maxwell Kovack. Room 312. 1399 00:57:20,294 --> 00:57:21,562 -We're hot on the trail. 1400 00:57:23,864 --> 00:57:27,802 -Hola, amigos. [speaking Spanish] 1401 00:57:27,835 --> 00:57:31,972 We are here to teach the salsa class. 1402 00:57:32,006 --> 00:57:34,809 So who is ready to dance? 1403 00:57:34,842 --> 00:57:35,976 [applause and cheers] 1404 00:57:36,010 --> 00:57:39,213 -Oh, yeah. Let's salsa. 1405 00:57:39,246 --> 00:57:40,581 -Yes, okay. 1406 00:57:40,614 --> 00:57:42,883 Now we start by picking a partner. 1407 00:57:42,917 --> 00:57:44,018 -Grab a partner. 1408 00:57:44,051 --> 00:57:46,120 -Very good, very good. -Grab a partner. 1409 00:57:46,153 --> 00:57:47,054 -Now, we’ll start with basic step. 1410 00:57:47,088 --> 00:57:50,191 Yes, we go slow. They follow where they go. 1411 00:57:50,224 --> 00:57:52,760 Right, left, together. Muy bien. 1412 00:57:52,793 --> 00:57:54,962 Left, right, together. Very good. 1413 00:57:54,995 --> 00:57:56,697 Right, left, together. 1414 00:57:56,731 --> 00:57:57,965 -How am I doing? 1415 00:57:57,998 --> 00:57:58,933 -You’re doing pretty good. Left, together. 1416 00:57:58,966 --> 00:58:00,735 We go a little faster. 1417 00:58:00,768 --> 00:58:02,002 -Okay, but only a little faster. 1418 00:58:02,036 --> 00:58:03,971 -Yes. And remember to swivel the hips. 1419 00:58:04,004 --> 00:58:04,839 -Oh my. 1420 00:58:04,872 --> 00:58:06,707 -Porque salsa is all about the hips. 1421 00:58:06,741 --> 00:58:07,908 -A lot of swivel. 1422 00:58:07,942 --> 00:58:10,111 -Now you must feel the music. 1423 00:58:10,144 --> 00:58:10,945 -Oh yes. 1424 00:58:10,978 --> 00:58:12,913 -You must feel the step. -I feel it. 1425 00:58:12,947 --> 00:58:14,849 -You wanna feel the soul. 1426 00:58:14,882 --> 00:58:16,717 -Birdie. Yes, everybody feeling it. 1427 00:58:16,751 --> 00:58:18,652 -Passion in all of the corazón 1428 00:58:18,686 --> 00:58:20,187 -But don't forget about your partner. 1429 00:58:20,221 --> 00:58:23,324 Okay. Sometimes we dance solo. Birdie. 1430 00:58:23,357 --> 00:58:24,959 She's very passionate! 1431 00:58:24,992 --> 00:58:27,194 Birdie. Birdie. Birdie! 1432 00:58:28,896 --> 00:58:29,997 -I might have gotten carried away. 1433 00:58:30,031 --> 00:58:32,266 -We gotta get outta here. -Right. 1434 00:58:32,299 --> 00:58:33,300 So what do we do? 1435 00:58:34,735 --> 00:58:39,106 -Uh... A conga! That's right. 1436 00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:41,942 -It’s okay. -It’s okay. Very good idea. 1437 00:58:41,976 --> 00:58:45,212 -[speaking Spanish] 1438 00:58:46,747 --> 00:58:48,315 Oh, this is so fun. 1439 00:58:48,349 --> 00:58:49,350 -Oh my. 1440 00:58:49,383 --> 00:58:51,318 -Yes. -Yes. Keep it going. 1441 00:58:51,352 --> 00:58:52,286 -Keep it going. 1442 00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:53,087 -Don’t worry. 1443 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,856 -Yes and feel it. Feel the fun. 1444 00:58:55,890 --> 00:58:56,857 -Feel the fun! 1445 00:58:56,891 --> 00:58:57,792 -And the fuego. 1446 00:58:57,825 --> 00:58:58,893 -Okay! -Okay. 1447 00:58:58,926 --> 00:59:00,027 -Keep feeling the fun. Keep dancing. 1448 00:59:00,061 --> 00:59:01,762 -Now you dance with your amigo. 1449 00:59:01,796 --> 00:59:02,863 -Conga, conga. 1450 00:59:02,897 --> 00:59:04,098 -Oh! Passion. -Oh, the passion. 1451 00:59:04,131 --> 00:59:07,234 -Y el corazón. Yes, yes! Okay. 1452 00:59:09,103 --> 00:59:11,772 -Where did you learn to dance like that? 1453 00:59:11,806 --> 00:59:13,307 -My high school spirit dance team. 1454 00:59:14,408 --> 00:59:16,944 Oh, here we go. Okay. 1455 00:59:16,977 --> 00:59:19,013 All right, so it should be this floor. 1456 00:59:24,085 --> 00:59:24,685 -There. 1457 00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:25,686 -Mm-hmm. 1458 00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:32,993 [knocking] 1459 00:59:33,027 --> 00:59:34,362 Maxwell Kovack? 1460 00:59:35,763 --> 00:59:36,997 -Is it Halloween already? 1461 00:59:37,031 --> 00:59:40,067 -Actually, we're investigating the murder of Laura St. James. 1462 00:59:40,101 --> 00:59:42,236 We were hoping we could ask you a few questions. 1463 00:59:42,269 --> 00:59:43,771 -Come in. 1464 00:59:43,804 --> 00:59:45,106 Sit down. 1465 00:59:48,209 --> 00:59:49,944 I hope you guys catch whoever killed her. 1466 00:59:49,977 --> 00:59:51,145 -Oh, yeah. Why is that? 1467 00:59:51,178 --> 00:59:53,981 -So I can thank him. Woman ruined my life. 1468 00:59:54,014 --> 00:59:55,850 -Was it you? 1469 00:59:55,883 --> 00:59:57,685 -I don't get around much anymore. 1470 00:59:57,718 --> 00:59:58,953 -[sighs] 1471 00:59:58,986 --> 00:59:59,754 Well, if you didn't kill her, 1472 00:59:59,787 --> 01:00:01,088 what do you think happened to her? 1473 01:00:01,122 --> 01:00:03,457 -I think she got what was coming to her. 1474 01:00:03,491 --> 01:00:06,761 Lifetime of stoking the flames of fear and murder. 1475 01:00:06,794 --> 01:00:07,928 It was bound to end badly. 1476 01:00:07,962 --> 01:00:09,797 -You think the Roxdale Killer is back? 1477 01:00:09,830 --> 01:00:11,699 -I think you guys are chasing a ghost. 1478 01:00:11,732 --> 01:00:15,836 -So you're saying the evidence doesn't match the narrative. 1479 01:00:15,870 --> 01:00:17,471 -The Roxdale case, it never did. 1480 01:00:17,505 --> 01:00:18,506 It was a series of murders 1481 01:00:18,539 --> 01:00:21,242 that we were investigating that was going cold. 1482 01:00:21,275 --> 01:00:22,977 Next thing you know, there's a... 1483 01:00:23,010 --> 01:00:24,278 an article in the paper 1484 01:00:24,311 --> 01:00:26,847 about some serial killer being on the loose. 1485 01:00:26,881 --> 01:00:27,848 Written by... 1486 01:00:27,882 --> 01:00:28,816 -Laurel. 1487 01:00:28,849 --> 01:00:30,251 -So, wait. 1488 01:00:30,284 --> 01:00:32,186 You're saying that Laurel was the first person to say 1489 01:00:32,219 --> 01:00:34,121 that this was the work of a serial killer 1490 01:00:34,155 --> 01:00:35,256 and not the police? 1491 01:00:35,289 --> 01:00:36,290 -Bingo. 1492 01:00:36,323 --> 01:00:37,858 We only investigated those murders being linked 1493 01:00:37,892 --> 01:00:39,493 because of her articles. 1494 01:00:39,527 --> 01:00:43,397 It seemed like Laurel knew everything about the murders. 1495 01:00:43,431 --> 01:00:45,232 And then some. 1496 01:00:45,266 --> 01:00:47,501 Claimed she had some anonymous sources. 1497 01:00:47,535 --> 01:00:50,137 So I reached out to her to ask her for some help. 1498 01:00:50,171 --> 01:00:51,472 You know, off the record. 1499 01:00:51,505 --> 01:00:53,007 I was so naive. 1500 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,076 Next thing you know, evidence goes missing. 1501 01:00:55,109 --> 01:00:57,078 She's published an article saying 1502 01:00:57,111 --> 01:00:58,979 that we bungled the investigation. 1503 01:00:59,013 --> 01:01:02,249 -Wait, you're saying Laurel stole evidence? 1504 01:01:02,283 --> 01:01:05,453 -I couldn't prove it, but now I know she stole it. 1505 01:01:05,486 --> 01:01:07,088 -How do you know that? 1506 01:01:07,121 --> 01:01:09,290 -Because she came here two weeks ago to apologize for it. 1507 01:01:09,323 --> 01:01:10,424 -Apologizing? 1508 01:01:10,458 --> 01:01:13,761 -She made some big song and dance about how she wanted 1509 01:01:13,794 --> 01:01:15,262 to make amends. 1510 01:01:15,296 --> 01:01:17,131 -What do you think she did with the evidence? 1511 01:01:17,164 --> 01:01:19,233 -Your guess is as good as mine. 1512 01:01:21,302 --> 01:01:22,436 [sighs] 1513 01:01:25,373 --> 01:01:27,174 [humming] 1514 01:01:27,208 --> 01:01:30,010 -Hola señor. -Señorita. 1515 01:01:30,044 --> 01:01:31,545 -Babe, do you want turkey or ham? 1516 01:01:31,579 --> 01:01:33,347 -Both, please. 1517 01:01:33,381 --> 01:01:34,348 -Of course. 1518 01:01:36,951 --> 01:01:39,420 -Well... still no mouse. 1519 01:01:39,453 --> 01:01:42,089 -Oh, just give him time. 1520 01:01:42,123 --> 01:01:45,126 -Yeah, time to chew his way through everything I own. 1521 01:01:48,896 --> 01:01:51,966 Oh, come on! He got the crossword. 1522 01:01:51,999 --> 01:01:53,234 -Aww. 1523 01:01:53,267 --> 01:01:55,136 -Cinnamon buns. My slippers. 1524 01:01:55,169 --> 01:01:56,537 The crossword. 1525 01:01:56,570 --> 01:01:58,305 You know, it’s starting to feel personal at this point. 1526 01:02:04,979 --> 01:02:06,347 -And why are your legs so white? 1527 01:02:06,380 --> 01:02:07,882 -Well, at least we do something 1528 01:02:07,915 --> 01:02:10,151 other than sit around a desk all day. 1529 01:02:10,184 --> 01:02:11,886 -What is it you think I do? 1530 01:02:11,919 --> 01:02:15,322 -Uh... talk about your hunches or why things don't add up 1531 01:02:18,426 --> 01:02:19,860 -Babe. -Hmm. 1532 01:02:23,364 --> 01:02:26,133 -I think our furry friend just gave us a tip. 1533 01:02:31,572 --> 01:02:33,507 -Places like this always give me the creeps. 1534 01:02:33,541 --> 01:02:35,209 -This makes sense. 1535 01:02:35,242 --> 01:02:37,211 Of course Laurel would’ve hidden evidence 1536 01:02:37,244 --> 01:02:39,246 outside of her own home. 1537 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,081 -19. 1538 01:02:40,114 --> 01:02:41,348 -Here we are. 1539 01:02:41,382 --> 01:02:43,517 -Ahh... should've grabbed the bolt cutters. 1540 01:02:43,551 --> 01:02:45,286 Remind me to add those to the P.I. car kit. 1541 01:02:45,319 --> 01:02:46,287 -We have a P.I. car kit? 1542 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,122 -Ah, it’s mostly just snacks at this point. 1543 01:02:48,155 --> 01:02:51,158 Which reminds me, I have to replenish the snacks. 1544 01:02:51,192 --> 01:02:54,995 -I got this one. Mama's got a new bag of tricks. 1545 01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:57,431 -Whoa. Who are you? 1546 01:02:58,899 --> 01:03:03,537 -Okay. So this... looks like a job for the rake pick. 1547 01:03:03,571 --> 01:03:05,039 -Whoa. 1548 01:03:05,072 --> 01:03:10,177 -So, all I gotta do... is rake it... like this. 1549 01:03:10,211 --> 01:03:11,312 -I have never been more attracted to you 1550 01:03:11,345 --> 01:03:13,114 than I am at this very moment. 1551 01:03:13,147 --> 01:03:14,615 -I think one of us should know how to pick locks. 1552 01:03:14,648 --> 01:03:16,016 Don’t you think? 1553 01:03:16,050 --> 01:03:17,485 -Absolutely. Clearly you got it covered. 1554 01:03:19,053 --> 01:03:20,187 -Ah! 1555 01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:23,924 It worked. 1556 01:03:25,259 --> 01:03:27,495 Okay. Let's see what we got. 1557 01:03:32,333 --> 01:03:34,935 Whoa. I thought our basement was messy. 1558 01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:39,540 Lampshade, anyone? 1559 01:03:39,573 --> 01:03:41,108 -I'll take two. 1560 01:03:41,142 --> 01:03:42,943 -What have we got in here? 1561 01:03:42,977 --> 01:03:45,546 Oh... babe. 1562 01:03:45,579 --> 01:03:46,447 -Yeah. 1563 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,083 -What do you think? Is this my style? 1564 01:03:49,116 --> 01:03:51,585 -Cute! How about this? 1565 01:03:51,619 --> 01:03:53,454 Should I wear this to your office party next year? 1566 01:03:53,487 --> 01:03:56,057 -Oh, yes. They really bring out your eyes. 1567 01:03:56,090 --> 01:03:57,058 -Are you flirting with me? 1568 01:03:57,091 --> 01:03:58,325 -Maybe. 1569 01:04:01,595 --> 01:04:03,431 -Babe. -Hm? 1570 01:04:03,464 --> 01:04:04,532 -Boxes? 1571 01:04:05,299 --> 01:04:07,601 -Yes. Good call. 1572 01:04:07,635 --> 01:04:10,638 Okay. We have personal. Personal. Personal. 1573 01:04:13,507 --> 01:04:15,242 No way. Babe. 1574 01:04:15,276 --> 01:04:16,277 Could this be it? 1575 01:04:16,310 --> 01:04:17,645 -Uh... yes, please. 1576 01:04:17,678 --> 01:04:19,180 -Okay. 1577 01:04:19,213 --> 01:04:20,414 [blows dust] 1578 01:04:20,448 --> 01:04:22,249 [coughing] 1579 01:04:22,283 --> 01:04:24,351 Oh. That did not go according to plan. 1580 01:04:24,385 --> 01:04:25,986 -What was the plan? 1581 01:04:26,020 --> 01:04:27,288 -I don’t know, they do it in the movies all the time. 1582 01:04:27,321 --> 01:04:28,689 It looks cool. 1583 01:04:28,723 --> 01:04:34,028 Okay, so we got fingerprints. Cigarette butts. 1584 01:04:34,061 --> 01:04:38,366 Pink scarf. And... nail clippings. 1585 01:04:38,399 --> 01:04:41,369 Wait. None of this was in the case files. 1586 01:04:41,402 --> 01:04:44,438 -Laurel definitely stole this evidence. 1587 01:04:44,472 --> 01:04:46,574 -They couldn't run DNA on any of this 1588 01:04:46,607 --> 01:04:51,078 because Laurel completely halted the investigations. 1589 01:04:51,112 --> 01:04:52,413 We have to get all this to Tom. 1590 01:04:53,013 --> 01:04:54,081 [metal bang] 1591 01:04:55,082 --> 01:04:56,150 What was that? 1592 01:04:56,183 --> 01:04:57,518 [electricity powers down] 1593 01:04:57,551 --> 01:04:59,153 Alden. 1594 01:04:59,186 --> 01:05:00,254 Someone’s here. 1595 01:05:00,287 --> 01:05:01,088 -Are you ready to run? 1596 01:05:01,122 --> 01:05:02,456 -Uh, yeah. 1597 01:05:02,490 --> 01:05:04,358 I mean, I'm in heels, so I can't really go that fast. 1598 01:05:04,392 --> 01:05:05,326 -Go, go. -Okay. Got it? 1599 01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:06,594 -Got it. Okay. 1600 01:05:06,627 --> 01:05:08,162 I will, I will. I’ll be the lookout. 1601 01:05:08,195 --> 01:05:10,398 Okay. Coast is clear. I think we’re good. 1602 01:05:10,431 --> 01:05:11,332 Shh! 1603 01:05:11,766 --> 01:05:12,633 Okay. 1604 01:05:12,666 --> 01:05:13,634 [gasps] 1605 01:05:14,101 --> 01:05:15,569 [door creaks] 1606 01:05:17,038 --> 01:05:19,140 Okay. Fall back. Fall back. 1607 01:05:19,173 --> 01:05:20,341 Just another date night! 1608 01:05:20,374 --> 01:05:21,709 -Wouldn't miss it for the world. 1609 01:05:29,383 --> 01:05:30,551 -Well, you guys did the right thing 1610 01:05:30,584 --> 01:05:32,486 bringing the evidence to me. 1611 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,988 Crazy that the storage unit was unlocked. 1612 01:05:34,021 --> 01:05:37,124 [talking over top each other] -Wow, yeah. Crazy. What are the chances? 1613 01:05:37,158 --> 01:05:38,559 -Yeah, what are the chances? 1614 01:05:38,592 --> 01:05:40,161 Anyway, we'll get this to the lab and check it for DNA. 1615 01:05:40,194 --> 01:05:42,029 If there's a match, we'll find out ASAP. 1616 01:05:42,063 --> 01:05:43,631 -Okay, so this DNA is, like, 30 years old. 1617 01:05:43,664 --> 01:05:44,765 Is it still usable? 1618 01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:45,499 -Oh, yeah. 1619 01:05:45,533 --> 01:05:46,467 Even with trace amounts of DNA, 1620 01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:48,169 we can track people through their family. 1621 01:05:48,202 --> 01:05:49,370 -Oh. Fingers crossed. 1622 01:05:49,403 --> 01:05:50,705 -You know what? 1623 01:05:50,738 --> 01:05:53,107 We've been going back through all the TRK files. 1624 01:05:53,140 --> 01:05:55,676 There's absolutely nothing that links these cases 1625 01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:57,278 aside from all homicides happening 1626 01:05:57,311 --> 01:05:58,646 near Roxdale State Park. 1627 01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:02,283 -Well, benefits of fresh eyes on a cold case. Thanks. 1628 01:06:02,316 --> 01:06:04,452 I went through the chain of evidence. 1629 01:06:04,485 --> 01:06:06,253 No notes were left at any of the crime scenes, 1630 01:06:06,287 --> 01:06:07,688 despite Laurel’s stories. 1631 01:06:07,722 --> 01:06:10,491 -Maxwell Kovack was right. There was never a serial killer. 1632 01:06:10,524 --> 01:06:14,662 -So Laurel fabricated the Roxdale Killer. 1633 01:06:14,695 --> 01:06:17,164 How is it possible she got away with it all this time? 1634 01:06:17,198 --> 01:06:19,500 -You tell a lie enough times, people will believe it. 1635 01:06:19,533 --> 01:06:21,635 -Okay, but none of this answers who killed Laurel. 1636 01:06:21,669 --> 01:06:22,803 -Well, whoever did kill Laurel 1637 01:06:22,837 --> 01:06:25,306 certainly wants us to think it was the Roxdale Killer. 1638 01:06:25,339 --> 01:06:26,540 -Huh. 1639 01:06:26,574 --> 01:06:30,211 Okay, well... throughout this investigation, 1640 01:06:30,244 --> 01:06:33,647 we have learned that Laurel didn't exactly 1641 01:06:33,681 --> 01:06:34,882 have a lot of friends. 1642 01:06:34,915 --> 01:06:37,818 From the people at the podcast studio, and Maxwell Kovack, 1643 01:06:37,852 --> 01:06:41,389 and her ex-husband... Laurel had a lot of enemies. 1644 01:06:41,422 --> 01:06:43,190 But who had enough motive to kill her? 1645 01:06:43,224 --> 01:06:45,393 -I'd say inventing a serial killer and perpetuating that lie 1646 01:06:45,426 --> 01:06:47,862 for 30 years presents way bigger opportunities for motive 1647 01:06:47,895 --> 01:06:51,399 than some vendetta about stealing someone's yogurt. 1648 01:06:51,432 --> 01:06:53,134 -Yes, yes. 1649 01:06:53,167 --> 01:06:55,870 Maybe her making up the Roxdale Killer is why she was murdered. 1650 01:06:55,903 --> 01:06:57,638 -Ooh, that's an interesting theory. 1651 01:06:57,671 --> 01:06:59,140 But we still gotta prove it. 1652 01:06:59,173 --> 01:07:00,307 [sighs] 1653 01:07:01,342 --> 01:07:02,777 Oh, guys. 1654 01:07:02,810 --> 01:07:05,746 If the Roxdale Killer is fake, we gotta tell Kristin. 1655 01:07:07,214 --> 01:07:08,516 -You’re right. 1656 01:07:08,549 --> 01:07:09,884 [clattering noise] 1657 01:07:09,917 --> 01:07:12,286 Oh, it's not that kind of intruder. 1658 01:07:13,587 --> 01:07:15,089 I got this. 1659 01:07:16,524 --> 01:07:17,525 -You're just gonna let her go alone? 1660 01:07:17,558 --> 01:07:19,126 -Absolutely. Yup. 1661 01:07:23,798 --> 01:07:25,366 -What? 1662 01:07:25,399 --> 01:07:26,634 [mouse squeaks] 1663 01:07:36,644 --> 01:07:38,379 [mouse squeaks] 1664 01:07:41,916 --> 01:07:43,317 [laughs] 1665 01:07:45,653 --> 01:07:47,421 -Did we get it? 1666 01:07:47,455 --> 01:07:49,390 -Yeah, I saw him. He was... 1667 01:07:51,292 --> 01:07:52,860 Uh, well... yeah. 1668 01:07:52,893 --> 01:07:56,564 Babe, I saw him, and he saw me. 1669 01:07:56,597 --> 01:07:59,500 -It's horrifying. Right? The claws. The fangs. 1670 01:07:59,533 --> 01:08:01,635 -No, no, no. He means us no harm. 1671 01:08:01,669 --> 01:08:04,538 I mean, I'm not saying that he spoke to me, but... 1672 01:08:04,572 --> 01:08:07,441 I really feel like we have an understanding. 1673 01:08:07,475 --> 01:08:08,809 -What? 1674 01:08:08,843 --> 01:08:09,744 -Yeah. 1675 01:08:09,777 --> 01:08:11,645 -Okay. On that note, I'm gonna get going. 1676 01:08:11,679 --> 01:08:14,615 I'll see you guys in the morning. 1677 01:08:14,648 --> 01:08:16,250 This is not gonna be fun. 1678 01:08:17,885 --> 01:08:21,255 -Hey. Tomorrow, you just be the supportive boyfriend. Okay? 1679 01:08:21,288 --> 01:08:24,792 I'll handle the hard part and tell her. 1680 01:08:24,825 --> 01:08:25,893 -Okay. 1681 01:08:28,963 --> 01:08:30,197 [exhales] 1682 01:08:31,265 --> 01:08:32,800 -That's right where the mouse was. 1683 01:08:37,238 --> 01:08:41,942 -She made up the Roxdale Killer? The whole thing? 1684 01:08:41,976 --> 01:08:46,213 -Well, the murders are real, but they're not connected. 1685 01:08:46,247 --> 01:08:48,816 -If Laurel was alive, she'd be charged with multiple felonies 1686 01:08:48,849 --> 01:08:53,721 for impeding an investigation... theft. 1687 01:08:53,754 --> 01:08:55,222 Did you know she was sick? 1688 01:08:55,256 --> 01:08:57,558 -No. I had no idea. 1689 01:08:57,591 --> 01:08:59,994 Oh, I’m gonna have to call my lawyer. 1690 01:09:00,027 --> 01:09:02,229 I'm gonna have to print a retraction. 1691 01:09:02,263 --> 01:09:04,699 I don't know how I'm gonna recover from this. 1692 01:09:04,732 --> 01:09:06,300 I can't believe that she would do this. 1693 01:09:06,333 --> 01:09:10,304 She always said how much integrity was important to her. 1694 01:09:10,337 --> 01:09:11,405 And now I... 1695 01:09:12,473 --> 01:09:14,709 I'm so sorry, I think I'm gonna have to go work. 1696 01:09:14,742 --> 01:09:15,943 -It's okay. You do what you gotta do. 1697 01:09:15,976 --> 01:09:18,279 Call me if you need anything, okay? 1698 01:09:18,312 --> 01:09:19,013 -Hang in there. 1699 01:09:19,046 --> 01:09:19,714 -Thank you. 1700 01:09:19,747 --> 01:09:21,482 -I'll check in with you later. 1701 01:09:32,393 --> 01:09:33,260 [sighs] 1702 01:09:38,733 --> 01:09:40,434 -You guys are gonna hate me. 1703 01:09:41,469 --> 01:09:42,636 -Did you buy that harpoon? 1704 01:09:42,670 --> 01:09:46,407 -No. Well, technically, you bought one. 1705 01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:48,309 I think we need to put Kristin on the board. 1706 01:09:48,342 --> 01:09:49,276 -What? 1707 01:09:49,310 --> 01:09:50,177 -Whoa, dude. 1708 01:09:50,211 --> 01:09:51,045 She was with us the night of the murder. 1709 01:09:51,078 --> 01:09:52,079 -She was with us earlier that evening. 1710 01:09:52,113 --> 01:09:54,415 I just... I think we need to look into her more. 1711 01:09:54,448 --> 01:09:57,017 She potentially had motive if she knew about Laurel's lie. 1712 01:09:57,051 --> 01:09:58,719 -Okay, before we go down this road, 1713 01:09:58,753 --> 01:10:00,021 have you two at least gone through the hard drive 1714 01:10:00,054 --> 01:10:01,789 with all of her audio recordings from the studio? 1715 01:10:01,822 --> 01:10:03,758 -Some. I mean, I scrubbed through it. 1716 01:10:03,791 --> 01:10:04,925 -Scrubbed through it? 1717 01:10:04,959 --> 01:10:06,660 -Well, it’s like a million hours of her eating crackers 1718 01:10:06,694 --> 01:10:08,029 and outtakes and stuff. 1719 01:10:08,062 --> 01:10:11,032 -Okay, before I bring my girlfriend in for questioning, 1720 01:10:11,065 --> 01:10:13,634 you need to go through the audio with a fine-tooth comb. 1721 01:10:13,667 --> 01:10:14,769 No scrubbing. 1722 01:10:14,802 --> 01:10:15,936 -You're right. 1723 01:10:15,970 --> 01:10:18,539 And that is exactly what we're gonna do 1724 01:10:18,572 --> 01:10:21,442 before we jump to conclusions. 1725 01:10:21,475 --> 01:10:22,476 Immediately. 1726 01:10:22,510 --> 01:10:23,411 -Okay. 1727 01:10:29,417 --> 01:10:31,819 -[recording of Laurel] When police quested. Nope. 1728 01:10:31,852 --> 01:10:34,922 When police questioned her neighbor... Fauna? 1729 01:10:34,955 --> 01:10:38,659 What am I talking about? The community muttered through. 1730 01:10:38,693 --> 01:10:40,327 No, communities don’t mutter. 1731 01:10:40,361 --> 01:10:42,663 -Oh, thank you. I needed this so badly. 1732 01:10:42,697 --> 01:10:44,565 My ears are about to fall off. 1733 01:10:44,598 --> 01:10:47,501 -Well, if this thing doesn't catch that little vermin, 1734 01:10:47,535 --> 01:10:48,969 I don't know what will. 1735 01:10:49,003 --> 01:10:52,673 By the way, I appreciate your patience with my nerdiness. 1736 01:10:52,707 --> 01:10:54,508 -All in. 1737 01:10:54,542 --> 01:10:56,911 -[recording of Laurel] Roxdale State Park is an historic 72-acre park 1738 01:10:56,944 --> 01:11:01,682 that is home to many varieties of wildlife and fauna. 1739 01:11:01,716 --> 01:11:03,784 Oh, you can put that right there. 1740 01:11:03,818 --> 01:11:04,952 [wheezing sound] 1741 01:11:05,453 --> 01:11:07,355 [recording of Laurel] Thanks, Katie. 1742 01:11:07,388 --> 01:11:07,822 -Did you hear that? 1743 01:11:07,855 --> 01:11:09,123 -Oh, I heard it. 1744 01:11:09,156 --> 01:11:10,624 -Wait, wait. What... what was that sound? 1745 01:11:10,658 --> 01:11:11,559 Play that again. 1746 01:11:11,592 --> 01:11:12,460 -Yup, yup, yup, yup, yup. 1747 01:11:13,127 --> 01:11:13,994 One sec. 1748 01:11:15,196 --> 01:11:16,330 -[recording of Laurel] Oh, you can put that right there. 1749 01:11:16,864 --> 01:11:18,699 [wheezing sound] 1750 01:11:18,733 --> 01:11:19,734 [recording of Laurel] Thanks, Katie. 1751 01:11:20,668 --> 01:11:22,536 -That was it, right? That was the sound. 1752 01:11:22,570 --> 01:11:24,472 -Okay, now, now play the murder recording. 1753 01:11:25,573 --> 01:11:26,540 -Okay. Got it. 1754 01:11:27,675 --> 01:11:30,811 -[recording of Laurel] You see, fate was a cruel master 1755 01:11:30,845 --> 01:11:33,914 to the victims of these senseless crimes. 1756 01:11:33,948 --> 01:11:36,450 This episode is like no other, 1757 01:11:36,484 --> 01:11:40,087 as I will finally reveal the truth behind the Roxdale Killer. 1758 01:11:41,689 --> 01:11:43,424 [gunshot] 1759 01:11:43,457 --> 01:11:44,492 [wheezing sound] 1760 01:11:45,726 --> 01:11:46,894 -That was it. I mean, that's it. 1761 01:11:46,927 --> 01:11:48,529 That's... that's the same sound. 1762 01:11:48,562 --> 01:11:49,864 -And she clearly identifies the killer. 1763 01:11:49,897 --> 01:11:51,065 She says Katie. 1764 01:11:51,098 --> 01:11:53,067 -It was Katie. It was Katie. It was Katie. 1765 01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:54,735 It was right in front of us the whole time. 1766 01:11:54,769 --> 01:11:55,936 It was Katie. 1767 01:11:55,970 --> 01:11:58,706 -I... I can't believe it. We just solved Laurel's murder. 1768 01:12:00,574 --> 01:12:03,110 Tom! We gotta tell Tom. Okay. Here, call him. 1769 01:12:03,911 --> 01:12:04,979 Send him the audio file. 1770 01:12:05,012 --> 01:12:06,113 -Yeah. -Okay. 1771 01:12:06,914 --> 01:12:07,681 It's right here. 1772 01:12:07,715 --> 01:12:09,016 [phone ringing] 1773 01:12:16,524 --> 01:12:17,658 -[in unison] Hi Tom. 1774 01:12:19,026 --> 01:12:20,161 Why are you doing this to me? 1775 01:12:20,194 --> 01:12:23,030 -We sent you an audio file. We know who killed Laurel. 1776 01:12:24,665 --> 01:12:26,634 -Okay. All right. 1777 01:12:26,667 --> 01:12:27,902 Okay. I'm up. What do you got? 1778 01:12:27,935 --> 01:12:29,136 -Okay. You were right. 1779 01:12:29,170 --> 01:12:31,505 We listened to hours and hours of outtakes and the raw footage 1780 01:12:31,539 --> 01:12:33,474 from Laurel's podcast, and this is what we found. 1781 01:12:33,507 --> 01:12:34,675 -Yup. 1782 01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:35,876 -[recording of Laurel] Oh, you can put that right there. 1783 01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:37,111 [wheezing sound] 1784 01:12:38,045 --> 01:12:38,946 [recording of Laurel] Thanks, Katie. 1785 01:12:38,979 --> 01:12:39,980 -That's the sound. 1786 01:12:40,014 --> 01:12:41,148 -[in unison] I know. 1787 01:12:41,182 --> 01:12:42,750 -And she says, thanks Katie. 1788 01:12:42,783 --> 01:12:44,118 -[in unison] I know! 1789 01:12:44,151 --> 01:12:46,087 -It all makes sense. Katie had a weak alibi. 1790 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,156 She faked an attack, and with Laurel gone, 1791 01:12:49,190 --> 01:12:51,625 she would get to carry the Roxdale Killer baton. 1792 01:12:51,659 --> 01:12:53,994 -Yeah, and Laurel already proved it's a lucrative business. 1793 01:12:54,028 --> 01:12:55,696 I mean, is that enough motive to kill somebody? 1794 01:12:55,730 --> 01:12:58,466 -Oh, I've seen people kill for far less than a podcast. 1795 01:12:58,499 --> 01:12:59,500 -Like what? 1796 01:12:59,533 --> 01:13:00,935 -I'm not answering that. 1797 01:13:00,968 --> 01:13:04,472 Well... I can't believe I'm saying this, but... 1798 01:13:04,505 --> 01:13:05,539 great work, you two. 1799 01:13:07,808 --> 01:13:09,143 -Okay, so what now? 1800 01:13:09,176 --> 01:13:10,678 We throw on a SWAT vest, roll out in the cruiser and... 1801 01:13:10,711 --> 01:13:11,579 [call ends] 1802 01:13:12,079 --> 01:13:12,980 I got a grappling hook. 1803 01:13:13,013 --> 01:13:13,948 -He hung up, babe. 1804 01:13:13,981 --> 01:13:15,049 -Yeah, I can see that. 1805 01:13:21,989 --> 01:13:23,758 -Katie Hiller. 1806 01:13:23,791 --> 01:13:26,827 You're under arrest for the murder Laurel St. James. 1807 01:13:26,861 --> 01:13:29,096 -What? That's crazy. I didn't kill Laurel. 1808 01:13:29,130 --> 01:13:30,097 -You have the right to remain silent. 1809 01:13:30,131 --> 01:13:32,566 Anything you say can and will be held against you 1810 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:33,834 in the court of law. 1811 01:13:34,268 --> 01:13:37,138 -This is... this is crazy! I didn't... 1812 01:13:38,672 --> 01:13:39,607 -We solved another one. 1813 01:13:40,674 --> 01:13:41,742 -Yeah. 1814 01:13:42,877 --> 01:13:45,246 I don't know, something doesn't feel right about this. 1815 01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:47,715 -What do you mean? You heard the recording. 1816 01:13:47,748 --> 01:13:49,617 She literally said Katie. 1817 01:13:49,650 --> 01:13:52,586 Katie had motive, and Katie had opportunity. 1818 01:13:52,620 --> 01:13:53,988 -I guess. 1819 01:13:54,021 --> 01:13:56,223 -Babe, don't guess. It's like we learned in class. 1820 01:13:56,257 --> 01:13:58,225 We have to follow the evidence. Okay? 1821 01:13:58,259 --> 01:14:01,128 Whatever narrative you've convinced yourself of 1822 01:14:01,162 --> 01:14:04,231 is not based on the hard facts and evidence. 1823 01:14:05,966 --> 01:14:08,135 -You're right. You're right. 1824 01:14:08,169 --> 01:14:09,970 I’m probably just tired. 1825 01:14:10,004 --> 01:14:11,505 -Two for two! 1826 01:14:19,146 --> 01:14:20,581 -To a closed case. 1827 01:14:20,614 --> 01:14:22,149 -To catching a bad guy. 1828 01:14:22,183 --> 01:14:23,284 -Cheers. 1829 01:14:23,818 --> 01:14:26,020 -I'm actually still on the clock, so... 1830 01:14:26,053 --> 01:14:27,221 But I do have good news. 1831 01:14:27,254 --> 01:14:28,255 -Oh, it's about time. 1832 01:14:28,289 --> 01:14:29,590 -We found DNA on the three items 1833 01:14:29,623 --> 01:14:30,791 you got from Laurel’s storage unit. 1834 01:14:30,825 --> 01:14:32,126 We're running it through CODIS right now. 1835 01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:33,728 -Oh, that's fantastic. 1836 01:14:33,761 --> 01:14:34,995 [glasses clink] 1837 01:14:35,029 --> 01:14:37,565 -So now that Laurel's murderer is behind bars... what's next? 1838 01:14:37,598 --> 01:14:40,701 -Oh, we are still on another case. 1839 01:14:40,735 --> 01:14:43,838 -Oh! The goat cheese. You're gonna love it. 1840 01:14:43,871 --> 01:14:44,872 -Wow. 1841 01:14:47,742 --> 01:14:49,076 -Let me ask you something, Tom. 1842 01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:51,779 You ever, uh... you ever wrap up a case 1843 01:14:51,812 --> 01:14:54,281 but still feel like something's bugging you? 1844 01:14:54,315 --> 01:14:57,351 -Yeah, but I've learned to take the win. 1845 01:14:57,385 --> 01:15:01,756 Hey... you solved it. Katie's the killer. 1846 01:15:01,789 --> 01:15:06,727 Look, they always say they're innocent initially, right? 1847 01:15:06,761 --> 01:15:07,795 -Initially. 1848 01:15:08,195 --> 01:15:09,730 -What? 1849 01:15:10,631 --> 01:15:12,066 -You just, you said initially. 1850 01:15:12,099 --> 01:15:13,868 -Yeah. 1851 01:15:13,901 --> 01:15:15,736 -Initially. Initials. 1852 01:15:18,072 --> 01:15:19,073 Initials. Initials. 1853 01:15:19,940 --> 01:15:20,941 Katie’s initials? 1854 01:15:21,675 --> 01:15:22,710 Katie? 1855 01:15:22,977 --> 01:15:24,011 K... 1856 01:15:29,116 --> 01:15:30,117 It was you. 1857 01:15:30,885 --> 01:15:32,286 -What? 1858 01:15:32,319 --> 01:15:34,055 -It was Kristin who killed Laurel. 1859 01:15:34,088 --> 01:15:34,989 -[scoffs] -Alden! 1860 01:15:35,022 --> 01:15:35,990 -What? 1861 01:15:36,023 --> 01:15:36,991 -Whoa dude. Not cool, man. 1862 01:15:37,024 --> 01:15:38,993 -Yeah. This is not how we keep friends, babe. 1863 01:15:39,026 --> 01:15:40,761 -I should’ve trusted my gut. Why didn't I trust my gut? 1864 01:15:40,795 --> 01:15:42,329 My gut is always right. Except when it comes to dairy. 1865 01:15:42,363 --> 01:15:43,931 -The audio clearly said Katie. 1866 01:15:43,964 --> 01:15:46,400 -No, she didn't say thank you, Katie. 1867 01:15:46,434 --> 01:15:51,906 She said, thank you KD. As in Kristin... Duckburn. 1868 01:15:51,939 --> 01:15:53,074 -Okay, Alden. 1869 01:15:53,107 --> 01:15:54,975 - I saw the inscription that she wrote you in her book. 1870 01:15:55,009 --> 01:15:58,112 She used your initials, KD. 1871 01:15:59,980 --> 01:16:01,148 Babe! 1872 01:16:01,182 --> 01:16:03,117 She's got Laurel St. James's book. 1873 01:16:04,185 --> 01:16:06,887 Oh. It's signed. Nice! 1874 01:16:08,289 --> 01:16:10,424 -You were all with me at my house that night. 1875 01:16:10,458 --> 01:16:12,226 I... I couldn't have done it. 1876 01:16:12,259 --> 01:16:14,228 -Yeah. We were. 1877 01:16:14,261 --> 01:16:15,363 But the murder didn't happen until later. 1878 01:16:15,396 --> 01:16:16,430 We were long gone by then. 1879 01:16:16,464 --> 01:16:19,033 -Yeah, yeah. Wait, wait, wait. This makes sense. 1880 01:16:19,066 --> 01:16:21,369 You must have already known that Laurel made up 1881 01:16:21,402 --> 01:16:24,004 the Roxdale Killer before we told you, 1882 01:16:24,038 --> 01:16:25,973 and if the truth came out, 1883 01:16:26,006 --> 01:16:27,441 your business would be completely ruined. 1884 01:16:27,475 --> 01:16:29,143 -And if Laurel made amends with her ex-husband and that... 1885 01:16:29,176 --> 01:16:31,712 and that Maxwell Kovack guy she threw under the bus, 1886 01:16:31,746 --> 01:16:36,250 I bet she also made amends to the one person she screwed over. 1887 01:16:36,283 --> 01:16:37,785 You. 1888 01:16:39,053 --> 01:16:41,422 -Honey, can you please tell them that they're being ridiculous? 1889 01:16:43,290 --> 01:16:44,458 -Actually, I want you to answer it. 1890 01:16:44,492 --> 01:16:45,760 -Yeah, answer the question. 1891 01:16:45,793 --> 01:16:46,827 -I'll ask the questions. 1892 01:16:46,861 --> 01:16:47,728 -Oh, like good cop, bad cop? 1893 01:16:47,762 --> 01:16:48,696 -No, not like good cop... 1894 01:16:48,729 --> 01:16:49,897 Hey, whoa! Whoa, whoa, hey! 1895 01:16:49,930 --> 01:16:51,265 -Whoa, whoa, whoa. 1896 01:16:51,298 --> 01:16:53,267 -You said it yourself. Hmm? 1897 01:16:53,300 --> 01:16:55,736 Laurel was the one who lied. 1898 01:16:55,770 --> 01:16:58,372 She lied to me. She lied to everyone. 1899 01:16:58,406 --> 01:16:59,874 Okay, yeah. 1900 01:16:59,907 --> 01:17:01,942 I... I went to the studio one night to see her. 1901 01:17:01,976 --> 01:17:04,011 She told me that she had terminal cancer 1902 01:17:04,045 --> 01:17:07,014 and she wanted to clear her conscience. 1903 01:17:07,048 --> 01:17:09,050 She was gonna tell the truth on the last episode. 1904 01:17:09,083 --> 01:17:12,720 I begged her not to, but she didn't listen. 1905 01:17:15,289 --> 01:17:16,190 -Okay. Calm down. 1906 01:17:16,223 --> 01:17:18,292 -No, stop talking. I didn't have a choice! 1907 01:17:18,325 --> 01:17:19,293 -Hey, hey, hey. 1908 01:17:19,326 --> 01:17:22,063 -Uh... what about the... 1909 01:17:22,096 --> 01:17:24,899 the squeaky sound in the recording? What was that? 1910 01:17:24,932 --> 01:17:25,466 -What? 1911 01:17:25,499 --> 01:17:26,467 -It was the keychain. 1912 01:17:27,568 --> 01:17:31,172 It was the rubber duck keychain that gave you away. 1913 01:17:31,205 --> 01:17:33,174 -You know, getting inside without anybody seeing me 1914 01:17:33,207 --> 01:17:34,508 was pretty easy. 1915 01:17:34,542 --> 01:17:35,509 [keypad beeps] 1916 01:17:35,543 --> 01:17:36,444 I knew what Laurel was gonna do 1917 01:17:36,477 --> 01:17:39,046 but I could not let her completely destroy 1918 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,281 my family's legacy. 1919 01:17:40,314 --> 01:17:41,515 [gunshot] 1920 01:17:41,549 --> 01:17:45,319 No. But then that stupid duck squeaked! 1921 01:17:45,352 --> 01:17:46,954 [duck squeaks] 1922 01:17:46,987 --> 01:17:48,155 -Whoa, whoa, whoa! 1923 01:17:48,189 --> 01:17:50,291 -How are you gonna explain shooting all three of us? Huh? 1924 01:17:50,324 --> 01:17:51,792 -Yeah, you might get two of us at best. 1925 01:17:51,826 --> 01:17:52,526 -Dude! 1926 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,795 -Birdie. Haven't you heard? 1927 01:17:54,829 --> 01:17:56,330 There's a serial killer on the loose. 1928 01:17:56,364 --> 01:17:57,465 [gun cocks] 1929 01:17:57,498 --> 01:17:58,232 -Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey! No, no, no. 1930 01:17:58,265 --> 01:17:59,800 Shoot me. Shoot me. Shoot me. 1931 01:18:00,267 --> 01:18:01,068 [mouse squeaks] 1932 01:18:01,102 --> 01:18:02,069 [screams] 1933 01:18:02,903 --> 01:18:03,504 -[screams] 1934 01:18:04,505 --> 01:18:05,806 -[screams] 1935 01:18:06,574 --> 01:18:07,975 [mouse squeaks] 1936 01:18:09,377 --> 01:18:12,213 -Get it off me! You’re so strong. 1937 01:18:12,513 --> 01:18:14,849 -Yeah. Well, guess what, honey? 1938 01:18:14,882 --> 01:18:19,220 You’re under arrest for the murder of Laurel St. James. 1939 01:18:19,253 --> 01:18:20,221 -I thought we were friends. 1940 01:18:20,254 --> 01:18:21,255 -Shut up, Birdie! 1941 01:18:21,489 --> 01:18:22,790 -Okay. 1942 01:18:27,528 --> 01:18:29,830 -I totally should have been valedictorian. 1943 01:18:30,898 --> 01:18:33,501 We still don't have any good couple friends. 1944 01:18:33,534 --> 01:18:35,136 -Bye-bye, Ducky. 1945 01:18:36,303 --> 01:18:39,040 -Hey. I just wanted to say... 1946 01:18:39,073 --> 01:18:41,275 even though you two drive me nuts, you especially... 1947 01:18:41,308 --> 01:18:42,309 -Fair. 1948 01:18:42,343 --> 01:18:45,946 -You did good. So, thank you. 1949 01:18:45,980 --> 01:18:49,917 And... who knows? Maybe we'll call you again. 1950 01:18:51,118 --> 01:18:52,319 -Go... 1951 01:18:52,353 --> 01:18:53,320 -Go... 1952 01:18:53,354 --> 01:18:54,455 -Go... 1953 01:18:54,488 --> 01:18:55,823 [in unison] Team! 1954 01:18:56,424 --> 01:18:58,492 -I knew we'd get you there. 1955 01:18:58,526 --> 01:19:00,528 So, what's next for you? 1956 01:19:00,561 --> 01:19:02,830 -I think I'm gonna focus on work for a while. 1957 01:19:04,031 --> 01:19:08,135 Uh... you know, you two are lucky you found each other. 1958 01:19:08,169 --> 01:19:09,270 -Sure are. 1959 01:19:12,173 --> 01:19:13,574 -So lucky. 1960 01:19:20,181 --> 01:19:21,549 Alden. Look. 1961 01:19:21,582 --> 01:19:23,584 [mouse squeaks] 1962 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,188 -[whispers] Go. 1963 01:19:27,221 --> 01:19:28,422 -[whispers] Go, go. 1964 01:19:28,456 --> 01:19:30,591 [mouse squeaks] 1965 01:19:47,475 --> 01:19:48,976 -It worked. 1966 01:19:51,345 --> 01:19:55,449 -Oh... Look, he’s eating. 1967 01:19:55,483 --> 01:19:58,319 Hey, buddy. Thanks for your help back there. 1968 01:19:58,352 --> 01:19:59,887 You know... 1969 01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:01,989 I think this makes you an official part of the team. 1970 01:20:03,157 --> 01:20:05,926 -He is surprisingly cute. -Mm-hmm. 1971 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,661 -I guess all the stories I made up about this guy 1972 01:20:07,695 --> 01:20:09,430 were much worse in my head. 1973 01:20:10,498 --> 01:20:11,399 We should name him. 1974 01:20:11,432 --> 01:20:12,933 -Oh, we should. 1975 01:20:12,967 --> 01:20:16,070 What about... Moriarty? 1976 01:20:16,103 --> 01:20:19,040 -I like it. A worthy foe. 1977 01:20:19,073 --> 01:20:22,309 -Aww. Those ears, though. Adorable. 1978 01:20:22,343 --> 01:20:25,212 -In today's episode, we hear from Alden and Birdie Case, 1979 01:20:25,246 --> 01:20:27,581 who solved the mystery behind the Roxdale Killer, 1980 01:20:27,615 --> 01:20:29,950 while bringing closure to the victims’ families. 1981 01:20:29,984 --> 01:20:32,620 -So, Laurel completely fabricated her stories 1982 01:20:32,653 --> 01:20:35,556 about the Roxdale Killer, and in doing so, 1983 01:20:35,589 --> 01:20:38,025 created total panic around town. 1984 01:20:38,059 --> 01:20:39,927 -And in order to keep up those lies, 1985 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,096 she stole vital pieces of evidence, 1986 01:20:42,129 --> 01:20:44,265 stalling police in their investigation, 1987 01:20:44,298 --> 01:20:47,368 and robbing the victims’ families of justice. 1988 01:20:47,401 --> 01:20:48,669 -Until now. 1989 01:20:48,703 --> 01:20:52,106 Because of DNA testing, Stuart Michael Williams, 1990 01:20:52,139 --> 01:20:54,508 already serving time for domestic battery, 1991 01:20:54,542 --> 01:20:57,011 will be served an additional life sentence 1992 01:20:57,044 --> 01:20:58,979 for the murder of Alexandra Kolesnikoff. 1993 01:20:59,013 --> 01:21:01,649 -Police found a discarded cigarette butt 1994 01:21:01,682 --> 01:21:05,052 20 feet away from victim number one, Caroline Olmstead. 1995 01:21:05,086 --> 01:21:07,988 It led us to our suspect, Lawrence Murphy. 1996 01:21:08,022 --> 01:21:10,124 -And what about Monica Gainey's killer? 1997 01:21:10,157 --> 01:21:11,959 -We did find a DNA hit there as well, 1998 01:21:11,992 --> 01:21:14,662 but that one was bittersweet. 1999 01:21:14,695 --> 01:21:17,698 Unfortunately, her killer died five years ago. 2000 01:21:17,732 --> 01:21:21,669 -Sometimes it's easy to forget why we do what we do. 2001 01:21:21,702 --> 01:21:25,406 It's to help people who no longer have a voice. 2002 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:29,043 -And to help Monica Gainey’s family have closure. 2003 01:21:32,780 --> 01:21:34,715 Thirty years later. 2004 01:21:37,151 --> 01:21:39,019 It really does make it all worth it. 2005 01:21:47,595 --> 01:21:49,163 -Are they getting along? 2006 01:21:49,196 --> 01:21:51,599 -Moriarty, you getting along with your new buddy? 2007 01:21:51,632 --> 01:21:52,700 [mouse squeaks] 2008 01:21:52,733 --> 01:21:54,201 That's a definite yes. 2009 01:21:56,303 --> 01:21:58,572 -Dare I say... 2010 01:21:58,606 --> 01:21:59,507 it feels like things 2011 01:21:59,540 --> 01:22:01,642 are starting to get back to normal with us. 2012 01:22:01,675 --> 01:22:03,477 -I think at this point, it's pretty clear 2013 01:22:03,511 --> 01:22:08,249 that you and I... don't do normal. 2014 01:22:08,282 --> 01:22:11,685 -You know, it's funny though, when we do listen to each other, 2015 01:22:11,719 --> 01:22:14,121 pretty great things seem to happen. 2016 01:22:14,155 --> 01:22:15,389 -Exactly. 2017 01:22:15,423 --> 01:22:20,327 We just have to remember that we are a team no matter what. 2018 01:22:20,361 --> 01:22:21,128 -Yup. 2019 01:22:21,162 --> 01:22:24,365 And when we are, we're unstoppable. 2020 01:22:24,398 --> 01:22:28,369 Whether it's assembling wildly elaborate traps, 2021 01:22:28,402 --> 01:22:30,604 or solving mysteries, 2022 01:22:30,638 --> 01:22:35,810 or winning ridiculous sums of money playing poker online. 2023 01:22:35,843 --> 01:22:39,113 By the way, do you think $20,000 could get us a helicopter? 2024 01:22:39,146 --> 01:22:40,114 -Babe. 2025 01:22:40,147 --> 01:22:41,415 -I mean, it's a legitimate business expense. 2026 01:22:41,449 --> 01:22:42,717 Oh, there's this guy. 2027 01:22:42,750 --> 01:22:44,151 -I'm listening. 2028 01:22:44,185 --> 01:22:47,054 I hear all your wonderful suggestions, 2029 01:22:47,088 --> 01:22:50,191 and I raise you... one kiss. 2030 01:22:52,259 --> 01:22:53,494 -I’m all in. 2031 01:23:00,368 --> 01:23:01,802 [doorbell rings] 2032 01:23:08,275 --> 01:23:11,212 -Birdie Case? Formerly known as Birdie Perez? 2033 01:23:11,245 --> 01:23:14,081 -Yeah, that's me. What's this about? 2034 01:23:14,115 --> 01:23:16,217 -When was the last time you saw your father? 2035 01:23:16,250 --> 01:23:17,385 -My father? 2036 01:23:18,819 --> 01:23:20,788 My father died when I was six. 2037 01:23:20,821 --> 01:23:25,526 -That's not entirely true. May we come inside? 2038 01:23:25,559 --> 01:23:27,194 -Please, of course. 2039 01:23:35,636 --> 01:23:50,551 * 2040 01:23:50,584 --> 01:24:03,664 * 220974