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NARRATOR: High in the
Andes Mountains,
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more than 150 massive
stone blocks
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lie scattered on the ground.
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GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS: Puma Punku is
one of the most enigmatic places
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on planet Earth.
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Some of the stone blocks
are over a hundred tons.
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NARRATOR: The ancient blocks are
carved with incredible precision.
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TRAVIS TAYLOR: It's an
amazing piece of engineering
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that is beyond its time.
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NARRATOR: But the origins
and purpose of Puma Punku
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remain completely unknown.
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Mainstream archaeology says
that this site is
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1,500 years old,
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but anyone you talk to
in that community
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will tell you
it's much, much older.
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NARRATOR: Could new
advancements in technology
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finally help to solve
a centuries-old puzzle
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and offer proof
of alien intervention on Earth?
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ERICH VON D�NIKEN: The locals say, "It
was not us who made these platforms.
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"It was the gods.
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The gods who descended
from the sky."
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NARRATOR: There is a doorway
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in the universe.
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Beyond it is
the promise of truth.
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It demands
we question everything
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we have ever been taught.
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The evidence is all around us.
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The future is
right before our eyes.
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We are not alone.
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We have never been alone.
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High in the Andes Mountains,
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Spanish explorer
Pedro Cieza de Le�n is
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searching for
the Inca capital of Qullasuyu.
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Just south of Lake Titicaca,
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at an elevation
of nearly 13,000 feet,
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he comes upon
extraordinary ruins
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covering roughly
two and a half square miles.
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It is the ancient
settlement of Tiahuanaco.
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De Le�n spends many months
investigating the site
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and writes in his chronicles
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that Tiahuanaco contains
impressive stone walls,
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idols of human figures,
and great doorways.
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He also writes about an area
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south of the main
archaeological site
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called Puma Punku,
or "Gate of the Puma."
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It features stone blocks
so enormous,
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he does not understand how
they could be moved by humans.
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And they are carved
with a precision
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that, according to De Le�n,
could not be accomplished
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with the tools
available to the Inca.
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TSOUKALOS: Pedro
Cieza de Le�n says
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that the local population,
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which was Inca, told him...
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...that this place was
not built by the Incas
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but it was built
hundreds of years before.
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If the Inca themselves have said
that it was not the Inca,
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well, then,
who were the pre-Incas?
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And there we are confronted
with a gigantic question mark.
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NARRATOR: What the giant blocks
formed is completely unknown,
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and nearly five centuries
after its discovery by De Le�n,
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Puma Punku remains
as mysterious as ever.
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It's out in this really open
high plains.
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Most of the stones
in Puma Punku are huge.
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The biggest is 130 tons.
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There's another one
that's 85 tons.
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Even the small ones are
multiton.
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So these are huge.
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The Plataforma L�tica is
in the center of Puma Punku
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and it's, in fact,
the foundation.
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So it consists of enormous slabs
of red sandstone
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that were brought from a quarry
eight miles to the west,
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over two mountain ranges.
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So, how that was accomplished,
I have no idea.
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CAROLINE WHITEHILL: Another
really fascinating
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aspect of the Puma Punku site
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is the distribution
of these blocks.
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Some of them are still
upright in the position
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that they were
originally constructed in.
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Most of them are strewn about.
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It looks like you're
in a child's playroom
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and blocks have just been
knocked over
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from some sort of a structure
that was built.
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HUGH NEWMAN: It looks
like it's been destroyed
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by a kind of tsunami
or something.
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It's got mud
piled up everywhere.
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Giant stones sticking out of it
at crazy angles.
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NARRATOR: It remains unknown
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whether the structures
of Puma Punku were destroyed
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by a cataclysm
or if the construction project
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was simply abandoned
before it was finished.
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But the roughly
150 megalithic blocks
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that can be found
at the site today
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reveal that
the builders possessed
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astounding
stoneworking abilities.
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BARNHART: Puma Punku has
these megalithic blocks
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that are perfectly cut...
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...that all of their angles are
completely right angles.
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There's these ones
in particular called H-blocks
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that look
like a big capital "H."
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They have kind of,
uh, fade lines going in
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where they carved the same shape
in a couple of different layers,
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deeper and deeper
into the stone.
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And its precision is
really mind-boggling.
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TAYLOR: There are grooves that are
cut with perfect 90-degree angles.
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It looks
like they were so precise
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that they were done
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with modern-day
milling machine tools.
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DAVID CHILDRESS: There's
stones there, too,
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that have a lot of drill holes
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and saw cuts
and things like that in them.
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It's an amazing piece
of engineering
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that is beyond its time.
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TSOUKALOS: Predominantly, we have
two types of stone at Puma Punku,
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and that is red sandstone
and gray andesite.
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They have found tools
made of copper
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and of iron
and bronze at Puma Punku.
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And with those tools, you can
absolutely cut the sandstone.
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However, you cannot cut
the gray andesite blocks
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with bronze or with copper
or with iron.
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What's interesting, too,
is that the stone blocks
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that we find at Puma Punku,
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the surface is
as if you're touching glass.
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It is perfection.
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So, to me it's possible
that our ancestors figured out
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a way to vitrify stone.
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And we have evidence here
of some type of a heat tool.
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NARRATOR: In 1903,
Arthur Posnansky,
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an Austrian engineer, explorer,
and amateur archaeologist,
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traveled to Puma Punku,
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which by that time was
located in Western Bolivia.
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Posnansky began
the most thorough study
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of the site ever conducted.
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Arthur Posnansky was born
in Vienna, Austria
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in the 19th century,
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and in his early 20s
he moved to South America.
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But very soon after that,
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he became fascinated
by Puma Punku
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and spent almost
the rest of his life
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studying and researching
that location.
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TSOUKALOS: Arthur Posnansky lived
and researched at Puma Punku
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from 1904 until 1945.
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He was there for 41 years
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and he absolutely fell in love
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not only
with the landscapes there
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but also with that culture
that put a spell on him,
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and it was
his biggest siren call.
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When speaking
with the Aymara elders,
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they speak very, very fondly
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of the archaeologist
Posnansky...
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...because he respected them
and he respected their culture.
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And he talked to them about what
they knew about these sites.
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And one of the places
that they're in agreement
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is that the site is much older
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than it's believed to be
by mainstream archaeologists.
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NARRATOR: Mainstream
scholars believe
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the site was
originally constructed
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about 1,500 years ago,
but Posnansky proposed
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that Puma Punku was
much, much older.
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By examining the structures
and what he believed was
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their original alignment
with the stars,
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he dated the ruins to 15,000 BC.
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TAYLOR: Arthur Posnansky suggests
that Puma Punku would line up
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with stellar objects
about 17,000 years ago.
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The local Indigenous people,
the Aymara, uh, they actually
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have a mythology
that Puma Punku has been around
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for maybe
as much as 17,000 years.
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NARRATOR: The Aymara people
have occupied the area
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of modern-day Peru and Bolivia
for at least 800 years
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and lived alongside the Inca
when Pedro Cieza de Le�n
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arrived at Tiahuanaco
in the 16th century.
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Both the Inca
and Aymara told De Le�n
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and other Spanish chroniclers
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not only that Puma Punku was
built long before their time
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but also that it was
the work of the gods.
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VON D�NIKEN: The locals said,
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"It was not us who made this.
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It was the gods
who did it in one night."
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"The gods who descended
from the sky."
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So, normally every culture says,
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"Oh, yes, we did it.
We, we had the knowledge.
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We were strong enough."
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In that case, Puma Punku,
the locals say,
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"It was not us
who made these platforms.
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It was the gods."
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Which gods? Extraterrestrials.
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NARRATOR: The mystery of Puma Punku
has persisted for centuries.
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But now, thanks
to new archaeological research
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and cutting-edge technology,
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experts believe
they may finally be able
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to accurately reconstruct
the ancient megalithic site
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and, in the process,
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perhaps answer some
of the long-standing questions
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about Puma Punku's age,
how it was built,
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and its potential
extraterrestrial origins.
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NARRATOR: Western Bolivia, 1995.
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Archaeologist Alexei Vranich
is preparing to excavate
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an ancient structure
at the site of Tiahuanaco
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for his PhD thesis.
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When the project
runs into complications,
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a local archaeological team
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invites him to instead
visit the ruins of Puma Punku.
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VRANICH: The Puma Punku
is located at Tiahuanaco
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just a little bit south
of the village.
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It's one of the more
dramatic landscapes you can find
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at 13,000 feet above sea level.
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And you simply don't expect
to find something so impressive
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in such a desolate landscape.
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I remember seeing it, and I had
no idea what I was looking at.
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It was a confusing mess,
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and I had never seen
anything like it.
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NARRATOR: Upon
seeing Puma Punku,
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Vranich decided to make the site
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the new focus
of his excavation project.
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VRANICH: I lived in the village
with the Aymara Indians,
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and these are local people that
have been there for centuries,
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and they worked directly
with me,
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so I got to know
the culture very well.
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They're excellent excavators.
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But they also held it
in high esteem
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within their cosmological world.
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WHITEHILL: When you speak to
the elders of the Aymara,
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they will tell you that this
was actually built by the gods,
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that these were gods
that came down.
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NARRATOR: Jorge Delgado,
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an Inca by birth and heritage,
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says that in
the Native tradition,
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the gods connected
with Puma Punku
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are known as the Space Brothers.
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...ways how we can
become one with the stones.
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NARRATOR: The first known photograph
of Puma Punku was taken in 1893,
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and the site has transformed
dramatically since that time.
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In fact,
the entire area of Tiahuanaco
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is like a giant puzzle with
many pieces missing or moved.
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TSOUKALOS: Half of
Tiahuanaco town
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was built with Puma Punku stone
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and with Tiahuanaco stone
from the ancient sites.
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I mean, there is one block
at a gas station.
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The cathedral,
or the Church of Tiahuanaco--
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a third of it is Puma Punku
Tiahuanaco rock.
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It puts a giant damper
on trying to figure out
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what did Puma Punku look like
in its heyday?
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NARRATOR: Even the
Bolivian government
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has been responsible
for altering the landscape.
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VRANICH: In the 1950s,
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the Bolivian government
decided that they wanted
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to have ruins
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similar to what Peru had
for Machu Picchu
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or Mexico had for Teotihu�can.
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So, it was a very
progressive agenda
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to give the Bolivian people
a pre-Columbian identity.
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But the result for archaeology
was a bit of a disaster.
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They moved around a lot of stone
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and did a lot
of questionable reconstructions.
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NARRATOR: While performing
excavations at the ancient site,
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Dr. Vranich decided to embark on
his own reconstruction project
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in hopes of answering some
of Puma Punku's many mysteries.
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Dr. Vranich's reconstruction
would be computer-generated,
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and the first step
was to precisely measure
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every stone block.
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VRANICH: I used a lot of
interesting and new technologies
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from laser scanners
to photogrammetry.
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But the best method
ended up being tape measure,
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pen and paper.
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And I used the notes
from scholars
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from over a century ago,
from the 1840s to the 1890s.
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And then, recently,
an architect from UC Berkeley
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did a lot of the drawings
of these stones,
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and that became the basis
for the reconstruction.
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NARRATOR: Once Dr. Vranich
completed the arduous task
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of documenting the measurements
of every known stone block
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and slab at Puma Punku,
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he 3D-printed them at UCLA,
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where he was working
as a research associate
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and visiting
assistant professor.
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With help from his students,
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he began putting together
the puzzle pieces.
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We had a lot of pieces,
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and we had no idea how
to go about putting it together.
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There was a couple of rules
that have been found
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on how some of these stones,
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or how some
of the ornaments, fit.
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Certain types of windows
or niches are always found
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in certain patterns
or in certain combinations.
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We continued to play
with this model
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probably for over a year.
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And we were almost
at our wits end going,
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"We're not gonna be able
to put this together,"
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when we finally had
a moment of insight.
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We were able to put together
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two different pieces that formed
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what one wall of the temple
would have looked like.
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NARRATOR: Dr. Vranich and
his students had discovered
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what he calls
the Tiahuanaco Rosetta Stone.
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VRANICH: That allowed us
to find the other pieces
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and fit them together.
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And once we had that,
we realized we actually had
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a miniature version
of the Puma Punku
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down to almost exact size,
0.57 in scale.
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That was one of those
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aha moments
that almost surprises you.
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For an archaeologist,
it's one of those moments
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that you live for.
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NARRATOR: Once Dr.
Vranich and his students
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established how the pieces
fit together,
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they were able to do a complete
reconstruction of Puma Punku.
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VRANICH: Puma Punku-- it's two
different things, in a way.
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One of them
is the entire temple complex,
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which is almost
half a kilometer long.
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There's the main platform,
there's a plaza in front of it,
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there's a couple
of different walls.
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So, it's a substantial building.
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But surrounding
the inner courtyard,
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you would have had
these buildings
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that we're reconstructing
right now.
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So, we're reconstructing
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the main religious
and ritual focus
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of this larger temple complex.
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The Puma Punku
probably had formed
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part of the religious ideology
that Tiahuanaco
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was an important place on Earth
where all the forces
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of the heavens
and the underworld
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were mediated to create
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a fertile and safe Earth.
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NARRATOR: Dr. Vranich has
assembled the most complete model
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of Puma Punku ever constructed.
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But just how accurate is it?
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And could it provide
the key to solving
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the centuries-old mystery
of Puma Punku?
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NARRATOR: Over the
past 20 years,
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archaeologist Dr. Alexei Vranich
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has taken detailed measurements
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of every existing
megalithic block at Puma Punku
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and had them 3D-printed.
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By working with his model,
he has developed a theory
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on how the ancient site
was originally constructed.
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On March 5, 2024,
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he invited Giorgio Tsoukalos
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and aerospace engineer
Dr. Travis Taylor
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to a workspace in Los Angeles
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to share the results
of his research.
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Tell me what this template is
that's on the tabletop here.
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VRANICH: This represents
the sandstone foundation
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for this building
of the Puma Punku.
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And to print it out
was simply too cumbersome,
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so we put it out on paper.
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Put that in scale for me.
How-how far
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-is this piece of paper?
-So, this one's about
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-maybe 70 meters long by about
12 meters wide. -Oh, okay. Okay.
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-And... -And consisting
of how many platform?
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So, we have 17 different pieces
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of sandstone that would have
completed a very flat surface.
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And there's an excellent chance
it probably would have extended
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another 12 meters this way.
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TSOUKALOS: When I saw
the model in person,
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I was like,
"I cannot believe my eyes."
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It almost looked
like a very long
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and rectangular building
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with multiple structures
lining up a long avenue.
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Alexei, clearly,
this is a passion for you.
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My-my question is,
if I were to compare
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all the cuts and everything
to the actual one,
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how closely would they compare?
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-No, they wouldn't.
-Really?
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VRANICH: I wanted to know
what these blocks looked like
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when they were made,
not how they were damaged
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or worn over the years.
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I needed to know, "How were
these things meant to fit?"
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So, you-you would suggest, then,
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that these blocks
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are what they actually
looked like when they were made.
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VRANICH: Exactly.
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Well, that's amazing. I mean,
the first time I was there,
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uh, was in 1995,
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and in 1995,
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one of the most
fascinating blocks I've seen
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is this guy right here.
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VRANICH: This stone...
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-This is what you were looking at, correct?
-Yes. Mm-hmm.
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So, it's a stone--
it's a window within a window
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-within a window.
-TAYLOR: Yes.
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TSOUKALOS: Wow.
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TAYLOR: You have to have done
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ground-penetrating radar,
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uh, and other
sensor measurements out there.
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Is there more to it
underneath the surface
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that we're not seeing here?
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We actually did
one of the most extensive
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ground-penetrating radar surveys
for the entire continent.
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And then UNESCO went by
and did a drone survey,
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uh, and it picked up every
tiny bump across the surface.
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And, yeah,
they definitely showed
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that the Puma Punku
is quite large
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and there's a lot more
of these stones.
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Do you have any conclusion
what any of this means?
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This is a temple,
it's a ceremonial place.
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That-That's clearly evident.
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TAYLOR: Alexei, looking at
all the parts here, uh,
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I could probably come up
with a billion combinations.
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So, how certain are you
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that this
is the right combination?
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Or that there's iterations
of it, versions of it,
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or something
completely different
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that this
could've possibly been?
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You know what,
I-I'm fairly confident
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about the general form
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and the location
of certain things,
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that's for sure.
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NARRATOR: While working
with his 3D printed model,
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Dr. Vranich made
an extraordinary discovery
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about the purpose
of the intricately carved blocks
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at Puma Punku.
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Come over here.
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We just printed this one out.
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If this is the way
it should have gone,
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with here, and then it would
have had a little bit on top.
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From this point,
it doesn't seem like much.
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But come around this side.
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Now look through the door
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and what do you see?
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-Bring yourself down.
-So like this?
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Oh! Yeah!
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And you know when
you'll have the two mirrors
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parallel to each other
and you look
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and it's like an infinity
mirror, as they call it.
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-VRANICH: Yes. -TAYLOR:
It's kind of that effect.
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Like you're looking to infinity.
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It's forced perception.
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It's a door within a door
within a door within a door.
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TAYLOR: What direction
is this facing?
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VRANICH: So this is
facing, uh, west.
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TAYLOR: Oh, so it
would see a sunset?
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VRANICH: Yes, yes.
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TAYLOR: It would be very
interesting to note
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what time of year does the sun
actually set perfectly
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such that it illuminates
the very center
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of that infinity door?
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It won't line up
exactly right now,
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but you could project
that backwards in time,
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and it would tell us when
the sun lined up on that spot.
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You could use this
to date this room.
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VRANICH: Right.
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NARRATOR: Determined to solve
the mystery of Puma Punku,
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Dr. Vranich has released his 3D
printing diagrams to the public
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and has challenged
other researchers
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to reconstruct
the ancient site as well.
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There's a lot of pieces
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that I haven't
been able to place,
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so that's why I placed all
of this information online
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along with
the basic instructions.
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I would love for people to
download this, print them out.
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My model is good for the moment,
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but it's the basic model.
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We can add
a lot of things to it.
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TAYLOR: What Alexei has done
is absolutely fantastic.
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Now anyone can take
all the pieces there
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and see if they can
put them together in a way
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that makes sense to them.
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And sooner or later,
someone is going to figure out
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what all these pieces built,
what they were,
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why were they there.
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NARRATOR: Now that accurate
measurements of Puma Punku
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are available online,
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could this mark the beginning
of a new era of discovery?
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Perhaps further clues
can be found
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by examining
another model of Puma Punku
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that reveals that the site
bears striking similarities
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to some of the most
ancient constructions on Earth.
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NARRATOR: 3D data visualization
expert Scott McAvoy
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runs the university library's
digital media lab.
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He is also known
for his CGI reconstructions
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of ISIS-destroyed sites
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in the ancient
Syrian city of Palmyra.
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Archaeological reconstruction
is a way to put
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a lot of different data together
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in a way that we
can draw connections
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between ourselves and the way
things were in the past.
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If a picture is worth
a thousand words,
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a 3D model
must be worth a million.
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Puma Punku is a perfect target
for this work.
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It's dripping with mystery
and it's very enticing.
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NARRATOR: Now he has applied the
data collected by Dr. Alexei Vranich
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to create a digital
3D wireframe of Puma Punku.
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-Hey, Scott.
-Hey. Good to see you again.
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Good to see you.
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NARRATOR: On March 28, 2024,
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Scott invited archaeologist
Dr. Ed Barnhart,
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who has conducted his own
on-the-ground investigations
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of Puma Punku
to review his model
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00:25:51,292 --> 00:25:53,125
and discuss his findings.
491
00:25:53,292 --> 00:25:56,250
BARNHART: I've been to Puma
Punku three different times.
492
00:25:56,417 --> 00:25:57,583
I have wandered this thing
493
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:59,625
and looking at it
from different angles,
494
00:25:59,792 --> 00:26:03,167
feeling stupid
that I can't figure out
495
00:26:03,375 --> 00:26:05,042
how any of these things
go together.
496
00:26:05,167 --> 00:26:07,250
McAVOY: Well, that's where
technology can really help us.
497
00:26:07,417 --> 00:26:09,792
-Let me show you what we got.
-Okay.
498
00:26:09,958 --> 00:26:15,250
McAVOY: So, this is the positions
of the stones from 1893.
499
00:26:15,458 --> 00:26:18,500
The stones had been moved
so many times in recent years
500
00:26:18,667 --> 00:26:21,833
and even in the past
before this photo was taken.
501
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,208
We're trying
to get a better sense
502
00:26:24,417 --> 00:26:26,875
of where they might have laid.
503
00:26:27,042 --> 00:26:30,625
This is a puzzle with probably
40% of its pieces missing.
504
00:26:30,792 --> 00:26:32,458
McAVOY:
I think it was calculated,
505
00:26:32,583 --> 00:26:34,667
like, ten percent of the pieces
are maybe here.
506
00:26:34,833 --> 00:26:36,625
-Oh, my gosh, really?
-Yeah. We're missing a lot.
507
00:26:36,833 --> 00:26:38,417
This is only 150 bricks.
508
00:26:38,542 --> 00:26:40,333
You know,
if we put these up by volume,
509
00:26:40,458 --> 00:26:42,458
I think
it's going to make up, like,
510
00:26:42,625 --> 00:26:45,167
half of the front facade.
511
00:26:45,250 --> 00:26:46,958
-Oh, my gosh.
-Yeah.
512
00:26:47,125 --> 00:26:49,167
Here we're starting with the
satellite image of Puma Punku.
513
00:26:49,292 --> 00:26:53,167
And then we overlay,
um, Alexei's map.
514
00:26:53,375 --> 00:26:55,833
So here we have a basic 3D model
515
00:26:55,917 --> 00:26:58,667
of the platform around it,
516
00:26:58,750 --> 00:27:00,500
the plaza on the outside.
517
00:27:00,708 --> 00:27:03,250
And we see that this temple
is at the entrance
518
00:27:03,458 --> 00:27:05,000
to this sunken courtyard.
519
00:27:05,208 --> 00:27:06,750
That is fascinating.
520
00:27:07,875 --> 00:27:10,875
McAVOY: From the incisions
on the foundation here,
521
00:27:11,042 --> 00:27:15,375
I feel pretty comfortable
extruding the walls.
522
00:27:15,542 --> 00:27:18,500
You know, raising
these up to the height
523
00:27:18,667 --> 00:27:23,750
of the doorway and trying
to fill in that space.
524
00:27:23,917 --> 00:27:27,833
Okay. That does make sense.
525
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,250
So, there seems to be
an implied symmetry here.
526
00:27:30,417 --> 00:27:32,167
There seems to be a pattern.
527
00:27:32,333 --> 00:27:33,875
This side reflects this side.
528
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,500
So we're moving forward
based on that.
529
00:27:38,667 --> 00:27:39,958
BARNHART: Wow.
530
00:27:40,125 --> 00:27:41,833
That makes logical sense to me
531
00:27:42,042 --> 00:27:44,583
because the other parts
of Tiahuanaco we can see
532
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:47,542
all adhere to a basic symmetry.
533
00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:50,667
McAVOY: Well, you know, there's
so many more pieces here that
534
00:27:50,833 --> 00:27:52,917
I wasn't even able
to find a place for,
535
00:27:53,125 --> 00:27:55,333
especially
these tub stones here.
536
00:27:55,458 --> 00:27:57,333
BARNHART: You know,
one of the real clues
537
00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:59,792
is these little guys right here,
538
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000
these, where we believe
539
00:28:03,167 --> 00:28:07,500
metal, kind of I-bars,
would keep them clasped.
540
00:28:07,708 --> 00:28:09,458
There's another one there.
541
00:28:09,625 --> 00:28:11,958
Those are exactly
the kind of pieces
542
00:28:12,083 --> 00:28:13,917
that I'm focused on
to say like, "Okay,
543
00:28:14,083 --> 00:28:16,542
this puzzle piece
has to fit with this one."
544
00:28:16,708 --> 00:28:17,833
Yeah, these are great.
545
00:28:17,958 --> 00:28:19,792
NARRATOR: The type of connection
546
00:28:19,875 --> 00:28:21,333
Dr. Barnhart is referring to
547
00:28:21,542 --> 00:28:24,458
is commonly called
a keystone cut.
548
00:28:24,625 --> 00:28:28,417
On the blocks at Puma Punku
are what we call keystone cuts.
549
00:28:28,583 --> 00:28:31,625
And these keystone cuts
are notches, like a T-notch,
550
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:34,792
set on the edge of a block
that match a T-notch
551
00:28:34,917 --> 00:28:36,583
on another edge of a block.
552
00:28:36,750 --> 00:28:39,583
And then molten metal was poured
553
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:42,833
into those notches
as a fastener.
554
00:28:44,042 --> 00:28:45,625
NEWMAN: These keystone
cuts are fascinating
555
00:28:45,792 --> 00:28:48,542
because they're found
not just at Puma Punku
556
00:28:48,708 --> 00:28:50,458
and Tiahuanaco in Bolivia.
557
00:28:50,625 --> 00:28:52,042
They're found in Peru.
558
00:28:52,167 --> 00:28:56,167
They're found in Egypt.
They're found in Greece.
559
00:28:56,375 --> 00:28:59,792
And they even found at
Angkor Wat in Cambodia.
560
00:28:59,958 --> 00:29:02,167
So, does this prove
that there was, like,
561
00:29:02,375 --> 00:29:04,833
a worldwide
technological civilization
562
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,875
that shared this knowledge?
563
00:29:07,042 --> 00:29:09,708
TSOUKALOS: From the ancient
astronaut perspective,
564
00:29:09,875 --> 00:29:15,917
our ancestors all went
to the same masonry school.
565
00:29:16,125 --> 00:29:19,292
Meaning, the same
extraterrestrial teachers
566
00:29:19,458 --> 00:29:21,083
visited at Puma Punku
567
00:29:21,250 --> 00:29:25,417
and the same teachers
visited at Angkor Wat.
568
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,042
NARRATOR: Is it possible
that Puma Punku
569
00:29:30,208 --> 00:29:32,208
was visited
by otherworldly beings
570
00:29:32,375 --> 00:29:34,042
in the distant past?
571
00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:38,042
Ancient astronaut theorists
say yes,
572
00:29:38,208 --> 00:29:41,042
and suggest Puma Punku
presents evidence
573
00:29:41,208 --> 00:29:44,542
that could push back
the entire timeline
574
00:29:44,708 --> 00:29:47,250
of human civilization.
575
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:53,625
NARRATOR: Muncie, Indiana.
576
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:56,750
April 9th, 2024.
577
00:29:56,917 --> 00:30:00,833
At Ball State University,
Giorgio Tsoukalos
578
00:30:00,958 --> 00:30:04,167
is meeting with Professor
of Electronic Art John Fillwalk,
579
00:30:04,333 --> 00:30:07,583
who used the data gathered
by Dr. Alexei Vranich
580
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:10,208
to develop his own model
of Puma Punku.
581
00:30:10,333 --> 00:30:12,208
So, here's what
we've been working on.
582
00:30:12,333 --> 00:30:15,083
Oh, wow. This is great.
Look at all this.
583
00:30:15,208 --> 00:30:16,458
This was probably
the most challenging
584
00:30:16,625 --> 00:30:18,250
reconstruction we've ever done.
585
00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:22,500
So, how then did you come up
with that particular structure?
586
00:30:22,708 --> 00:30:25,167
The first thing, really,
we tried to do
587
00:30:25,292 --> 00:30:27,458
was reconstruct the foundation
because that really informed
588
00:30:27,625 --> 00:30:29,958
sort of the growth
of the building out of that.
589
00:30:30,125 --> 00:30:33,750
And a lot of the blocks are
very specific to certain spots.
590
00:30:33,917 --> 00:30:35,458
TSOUKALOS: Oh, wow.
591
00:30:35,625 --> 00:30:36,833
FILLWALK: Then we create a motif
592
00:30:36,958 --> 00:30:38,750
that expands around
the structures.
593
00:30:38,917 --> 00:30:42,333
You know, to me,
it seems very mystical.
594
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:46,375
The patterning of the doorways
within doorways within doorways
595
00:30:46,542 --> 00:30:49,000
I mean, it really suggests
an idea of a transition.
596
00:30:49,208 --> 00:30:52,250
It points, to me,
toward another reality,
597
00:30:52,417 --> 00:30:56,167
maybe the afterlife,
to honor ancestors.
598
00:30:57,208 --> 00:30:59,167
NARRATOR: John Fillwalk's
reconstruction,
599
00:30:59,375 --> 00:31:02,542
much like the model built
by Dr. Alexei Vranich,
600
00:31:02,750 --> 00:31:05,750
contains doorways
within doorways,
601
00:31:05,917 --> 00:31:07,833
which he believes
points to the site
602
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,750
having served
a ceremonial function.
603
00:31:10,917 --> 00:31:14,250
But the question remains:
for who?
604
00:31:15,375 --> 00:31:18,667
In 1945,
after studying Puma Punku
605
00:31:18,833 --> 00:31:23,000
for more than four decades,
archaeologist Arthur Posnansky
606
00:31:23,208 --> 00:31:25,667
published his findings
in a book titled
607
00:31:25,875 --> 00:31:29,083
Tihuanacu:
The Cradle of American Man.
608
00:31:30,292 --> 00:31:33,833
And in it, he proposed
that the structures found
609
00:31:34,042 --> 00:31:37,583
throughout the Tiahuanaco site--
including Puma Punku--
610
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:41,125
were built
roughly 17,000 years ago.
611
00:31:42,083 --> 00:31:44,958
The reason why he did that
is because
612
00:31:45,042 --> 00:31:47,750
of astronomical facts
613
00:31:47,917 --> 00:31:51,458
that he found at Tiahuanaco.
614
00:31:51,667 --> 00:31:54,542
These astronomical markers only
615
00:31:54,708 --> 00:31:56,833
line up properly
616
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,583
around 15,000 BC.
617
00:32:02,458 --> 00:32:04,333
CHILDRESS: Modern
archaeologists have been
618
00:32:04,542 --> 00:32:08,667
getting dates
that are more like 500 AD.
619
00:32:08,833 --> 00:32:10,708
But the dating is difficult.
620
00:32:10,875 --> 00:32:13,167
Even today,
archaeologists are not
621
00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:17,208
in agreement of the dates
of Tiahuanaco and Puma Punku.
622
00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:19,833
NARRATOR: Posnansky
based his dating
623
00:32:20,042 --> 00:32:22,083
on features at a site located
624
00:32:22,208 --> 00:32:24,875
less than one mile
northeast of Puma Punku
625
00:32:25,042 --> 00:32:27,292
called Kalasasaya.
626
00:32:28,375 --> 00:32:31,167
John Fillwalk digitally
recreated this ancient site
627
00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:33,750
with its
central sunken courtyard
628
00:32:33,917 --> 00:32:35,333
and many monoliths
629
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:37,917
in order to look
for celestial alignments
630
00:32:38,042 --> 00:32:41,000
that might corroborate
Posnansky's dating.
631
00:32:41,167 --> 00:32:44,292
We're looking at Kalasasaya.
632
00:32:45,375 --> 00:32:48,583
And Kalasasaya does have
a beautiful equinox alignment.
633
00:32:48,708 --> 00:32:50,292
You'll see
the sun just sits there
634
00:32:50,458 --> 00:32:51,833
-right on top of the, the stone.
-TSOUKALOS: Okay.
635
00:32:52,042 --> 00:32:53,292
FILLWALK: That's gorgeous.
636
00:32:53,417 --> 00:32:55,542
TSOUKALOS: Oh, how cool is that?
637
00:32:55,708 --> 00:32:57,667
So, we worked with NASA's
638
00:32:57,833 --> 00:32:59,583
JPL Horizons group
639
00:32:59,792 --> 00:33:03,375
to provide data on any kind
of visible celestial body
640
00:33:03,583 --> 00:33:07,042
-looking at 15,000 BC.
-And what did you find?
641
00:33:07,208 --> 00:33:09,125
So, there were some interesting
alignments, I have to say.
642
00:33:10,042 --> 00:33:12,042
At Kalasasaya.
643
00:33:12,208 --> 00:33:14,833
Because there's all
the verticals that point around.
644
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,333
And so we investigated that
645
00:33:17,542 --> 00:33:19,792
from the center monument
looking outward towards
646
00:33:19,917 --> 00:33:22,458
those posts
as almost like in Stonehenge
647
00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:24,417
-where you look and you can see,
-Right.
648
00:33:24,542 --> 00:33:26,542
you know, solstice or equinox
and that kind of thing.
649
00:33:26,708 --> 00:33:28,792
That would essentially indicate
650
00:33:28,958 --> 00:33:31,833
that Posnansky's calculations
651
00:33:32,042 --> 00:33:34,250
in this particular case
652
00:33:34,417 --> 00:33:35,792
were correct.
653
00:33:35,958 --> 00:33:37,417
I mean, I think that's possible.
654
00:33:37,542 --> 00:33:38,542
There are alignments.
655
00:33:38,708 --> 00:33:40,542
-Wow. Okay.
-Yeah.
656
00:33:40,750 --> 00:33:43,458
-There are. -That date back 15,000 BC.
I mean,
657
00:33:43,625 --> 00:33:46,333
you know, all of this
would essentially rewrite
658
00:33:46,542 --> 00:33:50,042
South American history,
and this is something to be
659
00:33:50,208 --> 00:33:52,167
-excited about.
-Yeah.
660
00:33:53,208 --> 00:33:55,542
NARRATOR: If the Kalasasaya
structure at Tiahuanaco
661
00:33:55,708 --> 00:33:59,000
can be dated to 15,000 BC,
662
00:33:59,167 --> 00:34:03,125
is it possible that Puma Punku
is that old as well?
663
00:34:03,292 --> 00:34:05,583
FOERSTER: There's no logic
as to why modern archaeologists
664
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:07,292
put one fence around Puma Punku
665
00:34:07,417 --> 00:34:08,833
and another around Tiahuanaco.
666
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,375
They're both the same location.
667
00:34:10,542 --> 00:34:12,708
It's clear they were
both built at the same time
668
00:34:12,875 --> 00:34:16,333
by the same builders
in the very, very distant past.
669
00:34:17,958 --> 00:34:19,708
NARRATOR: Some
researchers also believe
670
00:34:19,875 --> 00:34:22,250
that the remote location
of Puma Punku
671
00:34:22,375 --> 00:34:26,625
would make more sense if it had
been built 17,000 years ago,
672
00:34:26,792 --> 00:34:29,667
because at that time,
it may have overlooked
673
00:34:29,833 --> 00:34:32,083
Lake Titicaca.
674
00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:34,375
If you look at
the geomorphology, if you look
675
00:34:34,583 --> 00:34:36,667
at the sediments that have
been deposited around the site,
676
00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:39,750
you can see that the lake was
at one point much, much larger.
677
00:34:41,250 --> 00:34:43,375
COLLINS: Lake Titicaca today
678
00:34:43,542 --> 00:34:47,167
is many miles away
from Puma Punku,
679
00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:50,792
but in the past it is believed
that this was actually
680
00:34:50,958 --> 00:34:53,833
much closer to Puma Punku.
681
00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:57,667
-So, we're looking at Lake
Titicaca right now, -Correct.
682
00:34:57,833 --> 00:34:59,792
so where is, in this image,
683
00:34:59,958 --> 00:35:01,708
where is Puma Punku located?
684
00:35:01,875 --> 00:35:04,042
Yeah, so, right,
so at the tail end
685
00:35:04,208 --> 00:35:06,333
of the lake, here on the south,
686
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:09,292
kind of east corner, if you come
out here into the plains,
687
00:35:09,458 --> 00:35:12,000
it's a little bit offset
into that area, that flat area.
688
00:35:12,167 --> 00:35:14,750
Okay, and the idea
is that long ago,
689
00:35:14,875 --> 00:35:17,500
Lake Titicaca was much,
much larger,
690
00:35:17,708 --> 00:35:20,042
and so that Puma Punku
and Tiahuanaco
691
00:35:20,208 --> 00:35:23,167
may have been a harbor or a port
692
00:35:23,375 --> 00:35:25,167
to Lake Titicaca.
693
00:35:25,375 --> 00:35:27,042
Certainly would make sense,
and water
694
00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:29,792
is such a dominant feature
at the site, as you know,
695
00:35:29,958 --> 00:35:31,583
-with the canal structures
-Right.
696
00:35:31,708 --> 00:35:33,500
-and drainage systems and all of that.
-Mm-hmm.
697
00:35:33,667 --> 00:35:36,375
So, that connection to water,
obviously, is really important.
698
00:35:37,375 --> 00:35:39,125
NARRATOR: According
to some experts,
699
00:35:39,292 --> 00:35:41,500
Puma Punku's proximity
to Lake Titicaca
700
00:35:41,667 --> 00:35:44,500
in the distant past
might also explain
701
00:35:44,708 --> 00:35:48,625
why the site appears to have
experienced a cataclysmic event.
702
00:35:49,667 --> 00:35:52,458
FOERSTER: I think what was
responsible was a massive
703
00:35:52,667 --> 00:35:55,750
explosion of the volcano
of Cerro Khap�a
704
00:35:55,875 --> 00:35:57,708
between 12,800
705
00:35:57,875 --> 00:36:00,625
and 11,600 years ago.
706
00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:03,083
Right next to that volcano
707
00:36:03,250 --> 00:36:04,833
is the deepest part of the lake,
708
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,458
which is 800 to 900 feet deep.
709
00:36:07,625 --> 00:36:09,875
So I think the debris
that came from the volcano
710
00:36:10,042 --> 00:36:15,125
created a tsunami
that lifted up the soil
711
00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:17,750
and sediment at the bottom
of the shallow part of the lake
712
00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:22,333
and literally buried Puma Punku
and parts of Tiahuanaco.
713
00:36:22,458 --> 00:36:24,667
TSOUKALOS: There
is a possibility
714
00:36:24,875 --> 00:36:29,833
that Dr. Posnansky's
calculations are correct.
715
00:36:29,958 --> 00:36:32,083
And Puma Punku may date back
716
00:36:32,208 --> 00:36:35,875
as far as 15,000 years BC.
717
00:36:36,042 --> 00:36:38,292
And if that is the case,
718
00:36:38,458 --> 00:36:40,333
that is one of those times
719
00:36:40,542 --> 00:36:42,958
where, in many cultures
around the world,
720
00:36:43,125 --> 00:36:44,917
including the ancient Egyptians,
721
00:36:45,042 --> 00:36:47,375
are referring to a golden age
722
00:36:47,542 --> 00:36:52,125
when the so-called gods
mingled amongst humankind.
723
00:36:52,333 --> 00:36:56,792
So, was this an early memory
of first contact?
724
00:36:56,958 --> 00:37:00,083
NARRATOR: Could it be
that Puma Punku was built
725
00:37:00,250 --> 00:37:02,667
more than 17,000 years ago
726
00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:06,167
and has a connection
to otherworldly visitors?
727
00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:09,125
Perhaps further clues
can be found
728
00:37:09,292 --> 00:37:12,167
by examining
a gigantic stone gateway
729
00:37:12,333 --> 00:37:15,875
that might be
the final piece of the puzzle.
730
00:37:20,833 --> 00:37:23,083
NARRATOR: When investigating
the ruins of Puma Punku
731
00:37:23,208 --> 00:37:26,000
for insights
about its mysterious origins,
732
00:37:26,125 --> 00:37:28,375
ancient astronaut theorists
believe
733
00:37:28,542 --> 00:37:30,167
some of the most
compelling clues
734
00:37:30,333 --> 00:37:33,583
can be found by examining
a giant stone doorway
735
00:37:33,708 --> 00:37:35,792
that stands less
than a mile away
736
00:37:35,875 --> 00:37:37,333
in central Tiahuanaco.
737
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:39,500
Called the Gate of the Sun,
738
00:37:39,583 --> 00:37:42,833
it is ten feet tall,
13 feet wide
739
00:37:42,958 --> 00:37:46,250
and was carved from
a single piece of andesite stone
740
00:37:46,417 --> 00:37:49,000
that weighs more than ten tons.
741
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,333
Perhaps one of the most
iconic works of Tiahuanaco
742
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:54,417
is the Gate of the Sun.
743
00:37:55,458 --> 00:37:57,958
It was found nearby
and ultimately moved
744
00:37:58,125 --> 00:37:59,542
to its present location.
745
00:37:59,750 --> 00:38:01,500
And they think
that it could well have been,
746
00:38:01,708 --> 00:38:04,667
actually, the entrance
or gateway to Puma Punku.
747
00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:08,375
It features
the Inca god Viracocha,
748
00:38:08,583 --> 00:38:11,000
who's the god of creation,
who's portrayed
749
00:38:11,208 --> 00:38:13,333
as a sort of a humanoid figure
750
00:38:13,542 --> 00:38:15,583
with rays coming off his head.
751
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:17,958
NEWMAN: Interestingly,
the god Viracocha
752
00:38:18,125 --> 00:38:19,833
is holding two staffs.
753
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,625
And this is the most
ancient version of Viracocha.
754
00:38:23,708 --> 00:38:26,417
And so to find that there
is really quite astonishing.
755
00:38:26,583 --> 00:38:29,500
It's said
that Viracocha himself,
756
00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:33,500
the great god of the Andes,
was actually the person
757
00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:37,708
who instigated the construction
of Tiahuanaco and Puma Punku.
758
00:38:39,333 --> 00:38:40,917
So what's particularly
fascinating about
759
00:38:41,083 --> 00:38:42,292
the Gate of the Sun is that
760
00:38:42,458 --> 00:38:45,167
on either side of Viracocha
761
00:38:45,375 --> 00:38:48,167
are these figures on each side,
762
00:38:48,375 --> 00:38:51,000
and they are birdmen.
763
00:38:51,083 --> 00:38:53,375
TSOUKALOS: Viracocha is flanked
764
00:38:53,542 --> 00:38:56,500
with 48 winged beings.
765
00:38:56,667 --> 00:38:58,833
Now, why would these beings
766
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,542
have wings attached to them?
767
00:39:00,667 --> 00:39:03,375
Well, because our ancestors
768
00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:06,167
try to signify flight.
769
00:39:06,375 --> 00:39:08,500
What I think is depicted
770
00:39:08,667 --> 00:39:11,167
on the Gate of the Sun is a type
771
00:39:11,292 --> 00:39:13,375
of a celestial pantheon,
772
00:39:13,542 --> 00:39:15,833
suggesting that whoever came
773
00:39:16,042 --> 00:39:18,000
and imparted knowledge
774
00:39:18,167 --> 00:39:20,167
at Tiahuanaco and Puma Punku
775
00:39:20,292 --> 00:39:23,833
were beings that had
a celestial connection,
776
00:39:24,042 --> 00:39:27,083
meaning they came from the sky.
777
00:39:28,458 --> 00:39:30,417
NARRATOR: Could it be
that the figures carved
778
00:39:30,542 --> 00:39:33,833
on the Gate of the Sun are
depictions of extraterrestrials
779
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,667
who arrived in Puma Punku
in the distant past?
780
00:39:38,708 --> 00:39:42,125
If Puma Punku was
some sort of temple complex--
781
00:39:42,333 --> 00:39:45,750
as Alexei Vranich, Scott McAvoy
782
00:39:45,875 --> 00:39:48,750
and John Fillwalk
have all envisioned--
783
00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:51,875
was it built to connect
with these beings?
784
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,667
For now, there remain
more questions than answers.
785
00:39:56,792 --> 00:40:00,000
But many researchers believe
that solving the mystery
786
00:40:00,125 --> 00:40:04,833
of Puma Punku could lead to
even more profound revelations.
787
00:40:05,042 --> 00:40:08,167
VRANICH: Puma Punku
will be a mystery
788
00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,417
for a lot of people
for a long time.
789
00:40:10,625 --> 00:40:13,833
And there are
a lot of aspects and facets
790
00:40:13,917 --> 00:40:15,875
of that society
we don't know about.
791
00:40:16,042 --> 00:40:19,583
Archaeologists will be able to
work there for many generations.
792
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:22,208
We can continue to excavate,
793
00:40:22,417 --> 00:40:25,125
uh, and do
more advanced analysis
794
00:40:25,333 --> 00:40:27,333
to try to find out
a little bit more
795
00:40:27,542 --> 00:40:30,083
about Puma Punku
and Tiahuanaco society.
796
00:40:31,375 --> 00:40:34,792
FOERSTER: Puma Punku is unique
in terms of its construction,
797
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,917
its astonishing level
of accuracy.
798
00:40:38,125 --> 00:40:40,417
Flat surfaces almost laser flat.
799
00:40:40,542 --> 00:40:42,875
So it makes it one
of the most enigmatic
800
00:40:43,042 --> 00:40:45,833
and fascinating
ancient locations on the planet.
801
00:40:47,042 --> 00:40:50,042
The level of technology
required to create
802
00:40:50,208 --> 00:40:54,000
Puma Punku would defy
21st century technologies.
803
00:40:54,167 --> 00:40:57,000
So, how that was accomplished,
I have no idea.
804
00:40:58,708 --> 00:41:02,125
TSOUKALOS: Even to this day,
with all the recreations,
805
00:41:02,292 --> 00:41:05,000
nobody really
has figured out yet
806
00:41:05,208 --> 00:41:10,000
what that place looked like
when it was finished.
807
00:41:10,167 --> 00:41:13,250
What was Puma Punku made for?
808
00:41:13,417 --> 00:41:15,750
Your guess is as good as mine.
809
00:41:15,958 --> 00:41:18,708
But we may have a eureka moment
810
00:41:18,875 --> 00:41:20,625
where, together,
811
00:41:20,792 --> 00:41:23,667
we will unlock the great mystery
812
00:41:23,875 --> 00:41:25,792
of Puma Punku.
813
00:41:25,958 --> 00:41:28,542
NARRATOR: Since Spanish
explorers first came upon
814
00:41:28,750 --> 00:41:31,417
Puma Punku
nearly five centuries ago,
815
00:41:31,583 --> 00:41:34,833
the ruins have remained
one of the ancient world's
816
00:41:35,042 --> 00:41:36,917
greatest mysteries.
817
00:41:37,042 --> 00:41:41,667
Like the pyramids that stand
on Egypt's Giza Plateau,
818
00:41:41,833 --> 00:41:45,417
the enormous Moai statues
of Easter Island,
819
00:41:45,583 --> 00:41:48,500
and the monoliths of Stonehenge,
820
00:41:48,708 --> 00:41:51,375
might Puma Punku
point to a history
821
00:41:51,542 --> 00:41:54,333
that is much different
than we've imagined?
822
00:41:54,542 --> 00:41:56,583
Perhaps modern technology
823
00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:59,125
will soon reveal Puma Punku's
824
00:41:59,292 --> 00:42:02,250
long held secrets and the truth
825
00:42:02,417 --> 00:42:05,500
about our alien ancestors.
826
00:42:05,625 --> 00:42:08,042
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