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We're riding in a Chevy Blazer. 3 00:00:09,009 --> 00:00:11,185 We're halfway around the world by myself 4 00:00:11,315 --> 00:00:14,797 to meet with a new client in the country of Colombia. 5 00:00:14,927 --> 00:00:18,540 AJ had a customer who really loved his suits and he said, 6 00:00:18,670 --> 00:00:21,151 "Hey, my boss loves what you're designing for me. 7 00:00:21,282 --> 00:00:23,153 He'd like to meet you." 8 00:00:23,284 --> 00:00:26,200 AJ: I have absolutely no idea who I'm getting ready to see. 9 00:00:26,330 --> 00:00:28,071 And we pulled up to a ranch. 10 00:00:28,202 --> 00:00:32,728 So I walk in there, and I was absolutely in shock. 11 00:00:34,121 --> 00:00:37,820 I was standing in front of my new client, 12 00:00:37,950 --> 00:00:39,822 Pablo Escobar. 13 00:00:39,952 --> 00:00:41,650 I thought, "Oh, my God." 14 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:44,609 Here was a guy that I'd heard a lot about in the news. 15 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:48,091 I really was not that comfortable. 16 00:00:48,222 --> 00:00:51,007 And there was an entire kilo of cocaine 17 00:00:51,138 --> 00:00:52,965 right there on the table. 18 00:00:53,096 --> 00:00:56,186 I thought, "I hope I get out of this alive." 19 00:00:56,317 --> 00:01:04,673 ♪ 20 00:01:04,803 --> 00:01:13,421 ♪ 21 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:17,294 ♪ 22 00:01:17,425 --> 00:01:22,082 I was sitting on a ranch of Pablo Escobar. 23 00:01:37,967 --> 00:01:40,883 AJ knew who the heck he was dealing with -- 24 00:01:41,013 --> 00:01:42,841 the king of cocaine. 25 00:01:42,972 --> 00:01:45,409 But it was strictly to make clothes 26 00:01:45,540 --> 00:01:47,411 because Escobar was also trying 27 00:01:47,542 --> 00:01:50,632 to be a somewhat mainstream politician 28 00:01:50,762 --> 00:01:53,417 and not, you know, the street thug. 29 00:01:53,548 --> 00:01:56,116 Murphy: Pablo Escobar -- he was the head of the Medellín Cartel. 30 00:01:56,246 --> 00:01:57,595 In the early 1990s. 31 00:01:57,726 --> 00:02:00,076 I was one of the two lead investigators 32 00:02:00,207 --> 00:02:03,166 on the Medellín Cartel and the demise of Pablo Escobar. 33 00:02:03,297 --> 00:02:04,950 [Camera shutter clicks] 34 00:02:05,081 --> 00:02:07,518 He introduced a business model of drug trafficking 35 00:02:07,649 --> 00:02:09,781 that eventually made him responsible 36 00:02:09,912 --> 00:02:14,003 for 80% of the world's cocaine. 37 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:16,223 His business model is, "I'm telling you to do something. 38 00:02:16,353 --> 00:02:18,181 If you don't do it, I'm gonna kill you. And you know what? 39 00:02:18,312 --> 00:02:22,011 I might kill your family, your children, and your dog." 40 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:24,144 He's nothing more than a mass murderer in my book. 41 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:42,031 Manna: And AJ knew he could help change that a little bit 42 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:43,685 by the clothes he wore. 43 00:02:43,815 --> 00:02:46,470 Escobar hated wearing a tie. 44 00:02:46,601 --> 00:02:48,559 So almost all the photos you see of Escobar, 45 00:02:48,690 --> 00:02:50,692 he's got, you know, an open shirt. 46 00:02:50,822 --> 00:02:54,043 Except for the tie that AJ made for him. 47 00:03:09,667 --> 00:03:11,539 The fact that AJ could make suits 48 00:03:11,669 --> 00:03:14,498 that made him look presentable, like a businessman, 49 00:03:14,629 --> 00:03:15,934 uh, pleased him. 50 00:03:16,065 --> 00:03:18,110 But AJ knew that it's not like Pablo 51 00:03:18,241 --> 00:03:20,287 was suddenly gonna be some sort of clothes horse. 52 00:03:20,417 --> 00:03:23,551 He said that, uh, Pablo was, [chuckles] 53 00:03:23,681 --> 00:03:25,640 as far as clothes was concerned, 54 00:03:25,770 --> 00:03:27,729 it was just kind of secondary. 55 00:03:34,605 --> 00:03:36,955 Sciutto: So Pablo and AJ became friends. 56 00:03:37,086 --> 00:03:39,523 They hit it off because they were two similar guys in a way. 57 00:03:39,654 --> 00:03:41,438 AJ had come from nothing. 58 00:03:41,569 --> 00:03:43,179 He had come from the middle of nowhere, Arkansas. 59 00:03:43,310 --> 00:03:46,095 No electricity, no money -- not a dime. 60 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:48,097 Hitchhiked and became his own man. 61 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:49,577 He made his own image, 62 00:03:49,707 --> 00:03:51,579 like, he became the person he wanted to be. 63 00:03:51,709 --> 00:03:55,104 And Pablo was similar in that he came from nothing 64 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:58,455 and was the wealthiest man in the world at the time. 65 00:03:58,586 --> 00:04:01,241 But you have to remember, he was one of the most wanted men, 66 00:04:01,371 --> 00:04:03,199 as well as being the wealthiest man. 67 00:04:03,330 --> 00:04:04,940 So he couldn't fly to Vegas. 68 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:06,811 So he lived vicariously through all these stories 69 00:04:06,942 --> 00:04:09,249 that AJ told about hanging out with celebrities 70 00:04:09,379 --> 00:04:13,122 and designing for showgirls. 71 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:15,472 Murphy: If you're a criminal like Pablo Escobar, 72 00:04:15,603 --> 00:04:18,954 when somebody's telling you about a place known as Sin City, 73 00:04:19,084 --> 00:04:21,478 well, holy cow. That sounds like a place 74 00:04:21,609 --> 00:04:23,785 where they might enjoy cocaine, doesn't it? 75 00:04:23,915 --> 00:04:25,395 It's no doubt in my mind 76 00:04:25,526 --> 00:04:27,397 that the wheel started turning in Pablo's head, 77 00:04:27,528 --> 00:04:31,096 and he's like, "This is gonna be my man in Las Vegas." 78 00:04:33,142 --> 00:04:35,449 AJ: Uh, so I was back in Colombia 79 00:04:35,579 --> 00:04:38,234 delivering the wardrobes for Pablo. 80 00:04:38,365 --> 00:04:43,674 Pablo said, "I'd like to make you a very, very good offer." 81 00:04:43,805 --> 00:04:45,981 Pablo actually said to AJ, 82 00:04:46,111 --> 00:04:48,026 "Listen, you should get into the cocaine business 83 00:04:48,157 --> 00:04:50,159 and make as much money as you can right now 84 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:53,162 while you're young so you can enjoy it as you get older, 85 00:04:53,293 --> 00:04:55,033 which is what I'm doing here." 86 00:05:13,182 --> 00:05:16,228 And this was Pablo Escobar. Of course, that frightened AJ 87 00:05:16,359 --> 00:05:18,622 because he knew what kind of a man this was. 88 00:05:18,753 --> 00:05:21,712 But AJ thought, well, he could make a lot of money. 89 00:05:21,843 --> 00:05:25,890 Now, the thing to remember, too, is AJ started with nothing. 90 00:05:26,021 --> 00:05:28,197 AJ always said that he was someone who, 91 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:30,808 when he saw an opportunity in front of him, 92 00:05:30,939 --> 00:05:34,203 he tried to maximize that opportunity. 93 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:37,772 AJ: At that moment, it sounded like more than I could handle. 94 00:05:37,902 --> 00:05:40,514 I had my fashion business going so well. 95 00:05:40,644 --> 00:05:42,907 But at the same time, my mind was going, 96 00:05:43,038 --> 00:05:45,562 "Yeah, he's right, he's right." 97 00:05:46,998 --> 00:05:50,175 AJ did not always recognize consequences, 98 00:05:50,306 --> 00:05:53,614 you know, and what the risk and reward was. 99 00:05:53,744 --> 00:05:55,398 AJ: But I already, needless to say, 100 00:05:55,529 --> 00:05:58,183 was involved with very dangerous people in the Mob. 101 00:05:58,314 --> 00:06:00,229 So the challenge 102 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,667 and the excitement and the danger of this offer, 103 00:06:03,798 --> 00:06:06,540 it sounded very intriguing, very interesting. 104 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:09,412 And after the things that happened to me 105 00:06:09,543 --> 00:06:13,590 when I was younger in Wichita, I basically was fearless. 106 00:06:17,246 --> 00:06:21,206 What happened was he fell in love with a woman named Linda. 107 00:06:21,337 --> 00:06:24,471 AJ: I met Linda when I was 20 years of age. 108 00:06:24,601 --> 00:06:27,212 She was a petite, beautiful, very intelligent, 109 00:06:27,343 --> 00:06:30,390 and an extremely interesting young lady 110 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,436 [stutters] that I just -- I was -- 111 00:06:33,567 --> 00:06:34,959 I was rather smitten with. 112 00:06:35,090 --> 00:06:37,484 They went on to marry. 113 00:06:37,614 --> 00:06:40,617 AJ: We started a family, and we had two kids, 114 00:06:40,748 --> 00:06:44,099 my son, Todd, and daughter, Michelle. 115 00:06:44,229 --> 00:06:46,362 They were a happy family here for a short time, 116 00:06:46,493 --> 00:06:48,408 but there was a tragedy that happened. 117 00:06:50,540 --> 00:06:52,412 AJ: It was my daughter's birthday. 118 00:06:52,542 --> 00:06:55,110 As I was pulling in the drive, 119 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,114 I could see Linda in the kitchen window. 120 00:06:59,244 --> 00:07:02,030 In her excitement, she ran around from the kitchen 121 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,641 to the front door and out of the house. 122 00:07:04,772 --> 00:07:08,689 And the door starts to close on her, 123 00:07:08,819 --> 00:07:12,388 and she just used her elbow to shove the door aside. 124 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:17,132 And her elbow just barely nicked that metal. 125 00:07:17,262 --> 00:07:19,439 And she caught tetanus, 126 00:07:19,569 --> 00:07:21,832 and she later died of it in the hospital. 127 00:07:41,939 --> 00:07:45,508 Carroll: He loved that woman with all his heart. 128 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:49,120 And he said, "Something came over me." 129 00:07:49,251 --> 00:07:50,687 And he said, "I just didn't care anymore." 130 00:08:04,048 --> 00:08:05,310 Sciutto: He started talking differently, 131 00:08:05,441 --> 00:08:07,312 walking differently. 132 00:08:07,443 --> 00:08:10,098 He started to dress a very particular way. 133 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:11,708 He got the mustache. 134 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:15,451 He, uh, slicked back his hair. 135 00:08:15,582 --> 00:08:18,149 And he created AJ the tailor. 136 00:08:24,678 --> 00:08:26,941 David: And his children were raised by our parents. 137 00:08:27,071 --> 00:08:29,073 And I do believe down the road, it, uh -- 138 00:08:29,204 --> 00:08:31,728 it caused some relationship problems with the kids. 139 00:09:10,767 --> 00:09:13,117 ♪ 140 00:09:16,338 --> 00:09:21,386 AJ: I returned to Las Vegas. 141 00:09:21,517 --> 00:09:23,606 And I was informed in Colombia 142 00:09:23,737 --> 00:09:25,782 that somebody would pick up part of the wardrobe 143 00:09:25,913 --> 00:09:28,132 that I was designing for Pablo. 144 00:09:29,917 --> 00:09:33,094 So one afternoon, a young man called for an appointment. 145 00:09:33,224 --> 00:09:35,139 I had him over to my studio. 146 00:09:35,270 --> 00:09:39,056 He had a box, and inside the box, 147 00:09:39,187 --> 00:09:42,712 four kilos of pure cocaine. 148 00:09:42,843 --> 00:09:46,107 And he said, "This is for you." 149 00:09:46,237 --> 00:09:48,457 That was the first delivery 150 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:52,592 that I knew that came directly from the source itself. 151 00:09:54,376 --> 00:09:57,814 The introduction of cocaine to the United States 152 00:09:57,945 --> 00:10:01,775 was slow and gradual until the Pablo Escobar came along. 153 00:10:01,905 --> 00:10:03,603 -Our top story tonight... -...cocaine... 154 00:10:03,733 --> 00:10:04,952 ...has become the number-one illicit drug 155 00:10:05,082 --> 00:10:06,388 in the United States. 156 00:10:06,518 --> 00:10:08,346 Cocaine is now becoming the "in" drug. 157 00:10:08,477 --> 00:10:10,697 In the 1970s, cocaine kind of took 158 00:10:10,827 --> 00:10:13,743 the United States by surprise, especially law enforcement. 159 00:10:13,874 --> 00:10:16,006 Nobody really cared about it, 'cause they were worried about 160 00:10:16,137 --> 00:10:18,705 all the weed that was being imported from South America 161 00:10:18,835 --> 00:10:21,969 into South Florida. That was their focus. 162 00:10:22,099 --> 00:10:23,840 So when cocaine came on the scene, 163 00:10:23,971 --> 00:10:27,191 well, cocaine already existed for medicinal purposes. 164 00:10:27,322 --> 00:10:28,453 Man: Although cocaine enters through 165 00:10:28,584 --> 00:10:29,846 a massive criminal network, 166 00:10:29,977 --> 00:10:31,805 there is virtually no evidence 167 00:10:31,935 --> 00:10:34,285 that cocaine users commit crimes to get it, 168 00:10:34,416 --> 00:10:36,331 probably because cocaine, unlike heroin, 169 00:10:36,461 --> 00:10:38,638 is not physically addictive. 170 00:10:38,768 --> 00:10:41,031 I think we know now they were completely wrong. 171 00:10:41,162 --> 00:10:42,816 We didn't know what we were in for. 172 00:10:45,775 --> 00:10:48,082 Nobody knew, especially AJ, 173 00:10:48,212 --> 00:10:50,345 how cocaine would go over in Vegas. 174 00:10:50,475 --> 00:10:53,653 But it was a big hit right away. 175 00:10:53,783 --> 00:10:55,567 Russo: The introduction of cocaine 176 00:10:55,698 --> 00:10:57,439 seemed like it happened overnight 'cause once -- 177 00:10:57,569 --> 00:11:00,007 once it got out there, everybody accepted it, 178 00:11:00,137 --> 00:11:01,835 especially the entertainment world. 179 00:11:01,965 --> 00:11:05,186 ♪ 180 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,458 ♪ 181 00:11:16,588 --> 00:11:18,199 AJ: Of course, all of the connections 182 00:11:18,329 --> 00:11:21,419 that I had from making clothing -- the showgirls, 183 00:11:21,550 --> 00:11:26,381 the working girls, valet guys, uh, the pit bosses, 184 00:11:26,511 --> 00:11:30,951 anybody that was part of Las Vegas was all over me. 185 00:11:31,081 --> 00:11:33,518 Just to give you an idea of the volume, 186 00:11:33,649 --> 00:11:36,391 there was times in Las Vegas that I could go through 187 00:11:36,521 --> 00:11:40,830 a kilo of cocaine in less than 18 hours. 188 00:11:40,961 --> 00:11:43,528 The money was so sensational. 189 00:11:43,659 --> 00:11:46,053 David: Well, AJ realized he'd found something there 190 00:11:46,183 --> 00:11:47,881 in the cocaine business. 191 00:11:48,011 --> 00:11:49,665 When AJ used to come to town in Wichita, 192 00:11:49,796 --> 00:11:51,275 we'd party a little bit. 193 00:11:51,406 --> 00:11:52,929 Of course, he was such a salesman, he could -- 194 00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:55,715 he'd start telling a big story about it and, uh, 195 00:11:55,845 --> 00:11:57,760 [chuckles] and how great it was, 196 00:11:57,891 --> 00:12:00,415 and then he'd have us -- we'd both have a little taste of it. 197 00:12:00,545 --> 00:12:01,938 Time just slips away. 198 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:03,766 You don't even know where time's at. 199 00:12:03,897 --> 00:12:05,507 The next thing you know, I mean, I was working at the time. 200 00:12:05,637 --> 00:12:07,552 I had to get up and go to work, no sleep, no nothing. 201 00:12:07,683 --> 00:12:10,686 But I'd do it. 202 00:12:10,817 --> 00:12:12,862 Sciutto: He's selling out of this cocaine instantly. 203 00:12:12,993 --> 00:12:14,734 So in order to keep that up, 204 00:12:14,864 --> 00:12:17,998 Pablo's sending him shipments through his guys. 205 00:12:18,128 --> 00:12:20,609 AJ: And now I have two of these guys 206 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:23,917 making these trips from Colombia. 207 00:12:24,047 --> 00:12:26,441 And I was using flight attendants, 208 00:12:26,571 --> 00:12:29,009 especially in South American countries. 209 00:12:29,139 --> 00:12:32,447 He actually set up a cartel of his own 210 00:12:32,577 --> 00:12:35,319 where the delivery people, the so-called "mules," 211 00:12:35,450 --> 00:12:37,495 were stewardesses. 212 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:42,805 And they would travel from Miami or Fort Lauderdale 213 00:12:42,936 --> 00:12:46,417 to various other places -- Denver, Chicago, Cleveland -- 214 00:12:46,548 --> 00:12:49,159 where AJ then had someone else 215 00:12:49,290 --> 00:12:53,816 just simply pick up the suitcase. 216 00:12:53,947 --> 00:12:58,168 He had a whole system set up. 217 00:12:58,299 --> 00:13:01,128 But not everybody knew everything. 218 00:13:01,258 --> 00:13:03,826 People knew only their little piece, 219 00:13:03,957 --> 00:13:06,437 so that if anything ever happened, 220 00:13:06,568 --> 00:13:10,006 it would never come back to him. 221 00:13:10,137 --> 00:13:12,617 AJ: I never considered myself, um, 222 00:13:12,748 --> 00:13:17,318 like, a drug dealer, just because I would never 223 00:13:17,448 --> 00:13:19,102 sell anything to anybody that didn't have 224 00:13:19,233 --> 00:13:22,758 one hell of a lot more to lose than I did. 225 00:13:22,889 --> 00:13:24,934 He compartmentalized his life. 226 00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:28,024 It was his way of not taking responsibility 227 00:13:28,155 --> 00:13:30,070 for what he was doing, 228 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,073 which made it easier to -- to live. 229 00:13:33,203 --> 00:13:36,511 Selling of cocaine gave AJ a world of possibilities 230 00:13:36,641 --> 00:13:38,382 that not even the Mob could offer him, 231 00:13:38,513 --> 00:13:42,212 and certainly making clothing for people could not offer him. 232 00:13:56,661 --> 00:13:58,968 He was measuring the inseams 233 00:13:59,099 --> 00:14:01,753 of some of the most dangerous people on the planet. 234 00:14:03,103 --> 00:14:06,454 The Mob knew that he always seemed to have access, 235 00:14:06,584 --> 00:14:10,762 but they did not know the extent of his involvement 236 00:14:10,893 --> 00:14:13,069 with the cocaine happening in Vegas. 237 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,158 He did not want them to know that, 238 00:14:15,289 --> 00:14:16,768 'cause he knew that they would be knocking on his door 239 00:14:16,899 --> 00:14:20,990 and saying, "Hey, we want a piece of that." 240 00:14:22,774 --> 00:14:24,733 Green: Once you are into the Mob, 241 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:26,735 once you're involved with things, 242 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:29,520 you do realize you're expected to be loyal to the family. 243 00:14:42,011 --> 00:14:44,057 So there's the old Mob, 244 00:14:44,187 --> 00:14:47,669 who supposedlywas not interested in the drug trade, 245 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:49,758 but there was a new crew -- 246 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:51,281 Spilotro was one of the younger people -- 247 00:14:51,412 --> 00:14:53,544 who were willing, if it made money, 248 00:14:53,675 --> 00:14:54,937 "Why not?" kind of thing. 249 00:14:55,068 --> 00:14:57,809 What's -- What's the harm? 250 00:14:57,940 --> 00:15:00,943 It got on the street, and they wanted it. 251 00:15:01,074 --> 00:15:03,424 Green: Now, in AJ's case, he understood 252 00:15:03,554 --> 00:15:05,208 that if the Mob -- Spilotro -- 253 00:15:05,339 --> 00:15:08,820 found out what was really going on with the cartels, 254 00:15:08,951 --> 00:15:12,737 they would end up getting very angry at him. 255 00:15:12,868 --> 00:15:14,870 That's a sign of disrespect, 256 00:15:15,001 --> 00:15:16,872 and it could be a big problem for him. 257 00:15:17,003 --> 00:15:18,787 [Chuckles] That's really risky 258 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:20,745 because the people around him -- 259 00:15:20,876 --> 00:15:24,140 AJ couldn't control who's talking to who. 260 00:15:24,271 --> 00:15:25,925 These are the guys who are gonna roll over on him. 261 00:15:26,055 --> 00:15:29,276 You're going down, not them. 262 00:15:29,406 --> 00:15:31,539 AJ: I'd been called over to have breakfast 263 00:15:31,669 --> 00:15:35,673 at the Tropicana, and Joe Agosto was there. 264 00:15:35,804 --> 00:15:37,806 Joe was entertainment director, 265 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:42,158 and he was handling the skimming from the Tropicana 266 00:15:42,289 --> 00:15:46,075 for the bosses in Kansas City, Chicago, and other areas. 267 00:15:46,206 --> 00:15:48,643 And I heard him make a statement like, 268 00:15:48,773 --> 00:15:52,690 "The balls this guy's got. The nerve this guy's got." 269 00:15:52,821 --> 00:15:55,302 It scared the hell out of me. 270 00:15:55,432 --> 00:15:57,695 ♪ 271 00:16:04,659 --> 00:16:06,704 AJ: I was at the breakfast room in the Tropicana, 272 00:16:06,835 --> 00:16:08,489 and Joe Agosto says, 273 00:16:08,619 --> 00:16:12,406 "The balls this guy's got. The nerve this guy's got." 274 00:16:12,536 --> 00:16:15,496 David: AJ was living a very risky life. 275 00:16:15,626 --> 00:16:17,498 If they found out that AJ was making all this money 276 00:16:17,628 --> 00:16:19,979 off this cocaine and he wasn't cutting them in on the deal, 277 00:16:20,109 --> 00:16:21,676 it wouldn't be good. 278 00:16:21,806 --> 00:16:27,682 ♪ 279 00:16:27,812 --> 00:16:31,120 But AJ was very lucky the Mob didn't know about 280 00:16:31,251 --> 00:16:33,470 his drug smuggling and his double life, 281 00:16:33,601 --> 00:16:38,388 because their focus was dealing with bigger issues with the FBI. 282 00:16:41,913 --> 00:16:47,223 So the FBI had finally got on the tail of -- of the Mob 283 00:16:47,354 --> 00:16:51,575 and their skimming operation that was happening in Vegas. 284 00:16:51,706 --> 00:16:54,535 Green: How do you explain your money? 285 00:16:54,665 --> 00:16:57,146 If you are skimming, it's illegal. 286 00:16:57,277 --> 00:16:58,843 Remember, that's how they got Capone -- 287 00:16:58,974 --> 00:17:00,889 tax evasion. 288 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:03,761 They were skimming a lot of money out of Las Vegas. 289 00:17:03,892 --> 00:17:05,372 And that's helping to finance 290 00:17:05,502 --> 00:17:07,374 a lot of the other things they do. 291 00:17:07,504 --> 00:17:09,637 So you might think of it as something like a flowchart 292 00:17:09,767 --> 00:17:12,422 circling around Las Vegas. Money goes here. 293 00:17:12,553 --> 00:17:15,164 This money comes to Las Vegas for them to do this. 294 00:17:15,295 --> 00:17:17,384 But Las Vegas is crucial. 295 00:17:22,824 --> 00:17:26,349 We were doing some business, and DeLuna, 296 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,438 with his big mouth and talking about things 297 00:17:28,569 --> 00:17:30,397 he shouldn't be on the phone... 298 00:17:33,748 --> 00:17:36,664 Green: Federal agents -- they have a wiretap 299 00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,927 on "Tuffy" DeLuna. 300 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:42,365 Russo: Joe Agosto and DeLuna ran the Tropicana Hotel 301 00:17:42,496 --> 00:17:44,367 for the Civellas. 302 00:17:44,498 --> 00:17:47,066 Green: On the wiretap, they're discussing some sort of murder. 303 00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:49,242 That's what their wiretap is for. 304 00:17:49,372 --> 00:17:52,027 But then they're able to get Tuffy explaining, 305 00:17:52,158 --> 00:17:55,509 "Oh, this is how we do the skim, and this is what we do 306 00:17:55,639 --> 00:17:58,599 and when we do it and why we do it." 307 00:17:58,729 --> 00:18:00,949 I can just imagine the guy sitting there 308 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,301 with the headsets on, going... 309 00:18:05,432 --> 00:18:08,826 They had struck the mother lode. 310 00:18:08,957 --> 00:18:11,742 And then the Nevada Gaming Commission 311 00:18:11,873 --> 00:18:13,353 let them be aware of it -- 312 00:18:13,483 --> 00:18:16,834 "We don't want you here no more." 313 00:18:16,965 --> 00:18:18,749 Manna: The hotel owners were told, 314 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,102 "You need to relinquish your ownership of certain hotels, 315 00:18:23,232 --> 00:18:26,496 or else we're gonna close them down." 316 00:18:26,627 --> 00:18:29,108 Sciutto: That left these guys with 30 days 317 00:18:29,238 --> 00:18:32,415 to sell the Tropicana, uh, in order to reclaim the money 318 00:18:32,546 --> 00:18:34,678 they had invested in it, otherwise they would lose 319 00:18:34,809 --> 00:18:36,593 hundreds of millions of dollars. 320 00:18:36,724 --> 00:18:38,639 But they couldn't just sell to anyone. 321 00:18:38,769 --> 00:18:39,814 The Nevada Gaming Commission 322 00:18:39,944 --> 00:18:42,382 had to approve of the buyer. 323 00:18:42,512 --> 00:18:45,907 The Mob found one legitimate buyer, 324 00:18:46,037 --> 00:18:50,172 and that was the squeaky-clean Ramada Inn Corporation. 325 00:18:50,303 --> 00:18:53,436 But they also needed a broker to be the middleman 326 00:18:53,567 --> 00:18:55,699 to make this deal happen. 327 00:18:55,830 --> 00:18:59,138 So the Ramada Inn sends someone to Vegas to broker the deal. 328 00:19:15,371 --> 00:19:18,505 AJ: So the night before, the CEO of the Tropicana 329 00:19:18,635 --> 00:19:21,421 and Agosto and their dates, 330 00:19:21,551 --> 00:19:24,511 they had made dinner arrangements with this guy 331 00:19:24,641 --> 00:19:27,427 to talk about buying the Tropicana. 332 00:19:27,557 --> 00:19:30,473 In comes this guy with his fiancée, 333 00:19:30,604 --> 00:19:33,215 takes a look around the table for just a few seconds, 334 00:19:33,346 --> 00:19:36,305 then snaps his fingers, and he summoned the maître d. 335 00:19:36,436 --> 00:19:38,481 He said, "We want to be moved from this table. 336 00:19:38,612 --> 00:19:40,701 We don't want to sit with these animals." 337 00:19:40,831 --> 00:19:43,530 So they actually got up from the table 338 00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:46,185 and were seated someplace else. 339 00:19:55,716 --> 00:19:59,676 Oh, I mean, Joe Agosto was boiling. 340 00:19:59,807 --> 00:20:02,070 He was just gonna put a contract on him, 341 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:06,161 just because of how this guy treated him with disrespect 342 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:08,207 the night before. 343 00:20:08,337 --> 00:20:10,905 What I could quickly see was you're not gonna make a sale 344 00:20:11,035 --> 00:20:14,300 by the deadline if somebody's got a contract out on him. 345 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:16,998 Sciutto: So AJ had a vested interest in this deal happening. 346 00:20:17,128 --> 00:20:19,435 The Mob, who's financing his fashion business, 347 00:20:19,566 --> 00:20:21,045 they would lose millions of dollars 348 00:20:21,176 --> 00:20:22,873 if this deal doesn't happen. 349 00:20:23,004 --> 00:20:27,051 So it really came down to having his business do well. 350 00:20:27,182 --> 00:20:29,880 AJ: The next thing I hear, one of the guys said, 351 00:20:30,011 --> 00:20:32,013 "Oh, w-where's this guy from?" 352 00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:34,798 They said, "Somewhere in Kansas." 353 00:20:34,929 --> 00:20:36,931 That got my attention. 354 00:20:37,061 --> 00:20:38,715 And it turned out AJ knew the guy. 355 00:20:38,846 --> 00:20:40,108 He had done suits for him in Wichita. 356 00:20:40,239 --> 00:20:42,023 He'd known him for years. 357 00:20:42,153 --> 00:20:43,938 AJ: Joe Agosto looks at me and says, "Call this guy. 358 00:20:44,068 --> 00:20:45,461 See if this is the guy you know." 359 00:20:45,592 --> 00:20:48,116 So I pick up the phone. 360 00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:50,684 And he says, "Who's calling?" 361 00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:52,903 I said, "This is a voice from the past." 362 00:20:53,034 --> 00:20:55,254 He says, "Like, what past?" 363 00:20:55,384 --> 00:20:57,647 [Chuckles] And I said, "Wichita, Kansas." 364 00:20:57,778 --> 00:21:00,737 And I said, "This is AJ Pratt." He said, "Where are you?" 365 00:21:00,868 --> 00:21:02,565 I said, "I'm down in the breakfast room." 366 00:21:02,696 --> 00:21:04,959 "You get up here." 367 00:21:05,089 --> 00:21:06,569 Mann: As soon as he said that, the Mob guy said, 368 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,005 "Make this deal." 369 00:21:08,136 --> 00:21:09,529 And they say, "If you can do this, 370 00:21:09,659 --> 00:21:12,358 we will make you the cleanest made man ever." 371 00:21:12,488 --> 00:21:14,969 AJ: And I knew that I would also get a little bit of respect 372 00:21:15,099 --> 00:21:17,406 from the Kansas City side. 373 00:21:17,537 --> 00:21:20,931 AJ was supremely confident. 374 00:21:21,062 --> 00:21:23,673 He believed that he could talk his way 375 00:21:23,804 --> 00:21:26,807 out of just about everything. 376 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,684 And the broker has no respect for the Mob, okay? 377 00:21:34,815 --> 00:21:37,165 He doesn't care. He's like, "[bleep] those guys. 378 00:21:37,296 --> 00:21:38,819 They don't have any class. 379 00:21:38,949 --> 00:21:40,299 I don't want to deal with these people." 380 00:22:05,498 --> 00:22:08,239 AJ has the cocaine. They do some. 381 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:09,893 The guy's like, "Where'd you get this?" 382 00:22:17,727 --> 00:22:19,338 This guy loved it, so he said, 383 00:22:19,468 --> 00:22:21,035 "I will do this deal on one condition." 384 00:22:21,165 --> 00:22:24,517 He says, "That you take my plane and fly to Colombia 385 00:22:24,647 --> 00:22:26,345 and bring me back as much as you can get." 386 00:22:46,321 --> 00:22:48,323 Right. See, that's the story I was told. 387 00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:50,064 I mean, it's crazy. 388 00:22:50,194 --> 00:22:52,588 AJ could make you believe anything he told you. 389 00:22:52,719 --> 00:22:54,982 Well, I wasn't aware of a lot of things at the time. 390 00:22:55,112 --> 00:22:57,114 I was told many things later in life. 391 00:22:57,245 --> 00:22:59,203 His stories were so far out, I mean, 392 00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:00,770 but they were so believable. 393 00:23:26,666 --> 00:23:29,233 ♪ 394 00:23:33,281 --> 00:23:35,936 Sciutto: So according to AJ, the one guy who can 395 00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:37,067 broker this deal to sell the Tropicana 396 00:23:37,198 --> 00:23:39,548 to a huge hotel chain says, 397 00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:41,724 "I will make this deal with you on one condition. 398 00:23:41,855 --> 00:23:45,293 You take my plane, fly it to Pablo in Colombia, 399 00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:48,383 stuff it with cocaine, and bring it back for us to sell." 400 00:23:48,514 --> 00:23:51,517 Mann: So, actually, that's not true. 401 00:23:51,647 --> 00:23:56,304 I'm always skeptical of what any interview subject tells me, 402 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:59,699 and I try to check any facts I can check. 403 00:23:59,829 --> 00:24:01,657 In this case, what had happened was 404 00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:03,659 there were two different people. 405 00:24:03,790 --> 00:24:05,705 The broker for the hotel chain 406 00:24:05,835 --> 00:24:08,490 was a businessman, somewhat shady. 407 00:24:08,621 --> 00:24:11,450 He had a long history of odd real-estate deals. 408 00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:14,278 This other guy, the one who offered AJ the plane, 409 00:24:14,409 --> 00:24:17,847 was a Wichita oilman who did a lot of cocaine. 410 00:24:17,978 --> 00:24:22,765 But he had nothing to do with the Hotel Tropicana deal. 411 00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:27,378 Now, both of them did cocaine with AJ, and did a lot of it, 412 00:24:27,509 --> 00:24:30,164 but they're definitely two different people. 413 00:24:30,294 --> 00:24:32,949 I asked AJ, "What's your explanation for that?" 414 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,040 And he said, "I'm sorry. I-I -- That's the way I remember it." 415 00:24:37,171 --> 00:24:38,694 Sciutto: I think I'm kind of fine with that 416 00:24:38,825 --> 00:24:41,610 'cause AJ was the penultimate storyteller. 417 00:24:41,741 --> 00:24:43,612 We all want a good story, 418 00:24:43,743 --> 00:24:45,701 and it's okay to go along for the ride. 419 00:24:45,832 --> 00:24:48,399 It's a memoir. It's not a biography. 420 00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:52,055 It's his story the way he sees it. 421 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,406 Sciutto So, back to the plane. 422 00:24:55,537 --> 00:24:57,365 This guy liked the cocaine so much, 423 00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:01,369 he actually gave AJ the keys to his nearly new airplane. 424 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,676 AJ's not a pilot. Like, he thought, "What am I gonna do? 425 00:25:03,806 --> 00:25:05,460 I don't know how to fly an airplane." 426 00:25:05,591 --> 00:25:07,549 Mann: But he also saw an opportunity in front of him 427 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,813 to expand his own business -- cocaine smuggling. 428 00:25:10,944 --> 00:25:12,815 But how do you do that? 429 00:25:12,946 --> 00:25:15,165 He wasn't an expert in this business. 430 00:25:15,296 --> 00:25:17,080 He was just starting out. 431 00:25:17,211 --> 00:25:19,082 David: Well, the real deal is cocaine's not the first thing 432 00:25:19,213 --> 00:25:20,649 AJ ever smuggled. 433 00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:22,216 He smuggled silk. 434 00:25:22,346 --> 00:25:24,697 ♪ 435 00:25:24,827 --> 00:25:26,612 Sciutto: He actually snuck into China 436 00:25:26,742 --> 00:25:28,396 at a time when there was an embargo 437 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:32,008 to find silks that they needed for these showgirls. 438 00:25:32,139 --> 00:25:33,967 AJ: I do a lot of designing with silk, 439 00:25:34,097 --> 00:25:37,100 and, uh, I've always known the best silk in the world 440 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,625 is in Shanghai, China. 441 00:25:39,755 --> 00:25:42,715 In those days, it was a shopping extravaganza. 442 00:25:42,845 --> 00:25:44,673 Things that you could buy for the prices 443 00:25:44,804 --> 00:25:47,197 and the quality was incredible. 444 00:25:47,328 --> 00:25:49,460 But we were in a cold war with China. 445 00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:51,637 It's impossible to get these silks. 446 00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:55,118 So I thought, "Well, how can I smuggle 447 00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:58,513 the silk from the People's Republic of China 448 00:25:58,644 --> 00:26:02,343 and to a duty-free port, which was Hong Kong?" 449 00:26:02,473 --> 00:26:05,781 I already had a number of contacts in Hong Kong 450 00:26:05,912 --> 00:26:07,653 that I had designed for. 451 00:26:07,783 --> 00:26:13,354 So I had people to help, and I came up with a method. 452 00:26:13,484 --> 00:26:15,791 I would wrap the silk around the waist 453 00:26:15,922 --> 00:26:18,664 of somebody that could be trusted. 454 00:26:18,794 --> 00:26:20,100 David: And then he put them on a train 455 00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:21,928 and sent them to Hong Kong. 456 00:26:22,058 --> 00:26:24,713 Once in Hong Kong, he unwrapped all the silk from them 457 00:26:24,844 --> 00:26:27,237 and took it back with him. 458 00:26:27,368 --> 00:26:29,979 AJ: And as soon as I returned to Las Vegas, 459 00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:33,896 there were 723 calls waiting for me. 460 00:26:34,027 --> 00:26:36,203 David: His business expanded because he had the silk, 461 00:26:36,333 --> 00:26:38,074 which nobody else had, and maybe he saw 462 00:26:38,205 --> 00:26:39,946 the same opportunity with the cocaine. 463 00:26:42,252 --> 00:26:43,819 Manna: So once AJ's got a plane, 464 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:45,691 where is he gonna go? 465 00:26:45,821 --> 00:26:47,170 'Cause he doesn't know how to fly a plane. 466 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,870 David: He went back to Wichita 467 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,263 because my dad got a job at Boeing. 468 00:27:03,447 --> 00:27:05,841 Sciutto: He's asking all these questions about a plane. 469 00:27:05,972 --> 00:27:08,278 How much fuel does it need? How far can it fly? 470 00:27:08,409 --> 00:27:10,672 What kind of weight can it carry? Et cetera. 471 00:27:10,803 --> 00:27:12,543 And a guy overhears him. 472 00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:14,023 And he says, "Well, I think I know 473 00:27:14,154 --> 00:27:16,112 what you want this airplane for." 474 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,206 Hahn: Barry Seal was one of the major smugglers 475 00:27:23,337 --> 00:27:26,688 in the '70s and the early '80s. 476 00:27:26,819 --> 00:27:30,518 Very successful, but we never caught him with a load. 477 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:33,260 That's success. 478 00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:36,306 Murphy: Barry Seal was a savant when it came to flying. 479 00:27:36,437 --> 00:27:38,004 I understand he got his pilot's license, 480 00:27:38,134 --> 00:27:39,832 soloed at a very young age, 481 00:27:39,962 --> 00:27:41,181 became one of the youngest pilots 482 00:27:41,311 --> 00:27:43,705 in command at TWA Airlines. 483 00:27:43,836 --> 00:27:46,665 But he also had an extremely adventuresome side. 484 00:27:46,795 --> 00:27:48,623 The exciting thing in life, to me, 485 00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:51,104 is to get into a life-threatening situation. 486 00:27:51,234 --> 00:27:52,888 Now, that's excitement. 487 00:27:53,019 --> 00:27:54,673 Hahn: It turned out that smuggling 488 00:27:54,803 --> 00:27:57,371 was what he chose to do. 489 00:27:57,501 --> 00:28:01,505 When I started working on this case for the FBI, 490 00:28:01,636 --> 00:28:05,596 Barry's first smuggling was mostly marijuana. 491 00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:08,469 And then he got involved in taking munitions, 492 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,646 allegedly, down to Mexico. 493 00:28:11,777 --> 00:28:13,300 He was a good pilot. 494 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:15,998 He had his skills, and he used them. 495 00:28:16,129 --> 00:28:19,828 He had the reputation of being able to land a plane 496 00:28:19,959 --> 00:28:24,093 and take off in a plane from almost anywhere. 497 00:28:24,224 --> 00:28:27,836 Manna: You wonder how all of this would happen to one guy. 498 00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:29,708 And the only thing I could come up with is, 499 00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:33,581 is it was just a wild coincidence 500 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:36,192 that AJ met those people. 501 00:28:36,323 --> 00:28:37,759 That was his life. 502 00:29:07,006 --> 00:29:08,398 These guys agree 503 00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:10,400 that they will empty out their bank accounts 504 00:29:10,531 --> 00:29:13,229 and put all their money into rigging planes 505 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,970 so they can stuff it with more cocaine 506 00:29:15,101 --> 00:29:17,146 to get it from Colombia back to the U.S. 507 00:29:27,591 --> 00:29:30,072 Manna: How much did you pick up at that first trip? 508 00:29:32,509 --> 00:29:33,989 Exactly. 509 00:29:49,875 --> 00:29:51,615 Sciutto: AJ said the deal went through. 510 00:29:51,746 --> 00:29:53,966 The Mob sold the Tropicana, and the guy's life 511 00:29:54,096 --> 00:29:56,011 was spared thanks to AJ. 512 00:29:56,142 --> 00:29:59,623 So AJ. becomes the cleanest made man in Mob history. 513 00:29:59,754 --> 00:30:03,149 But this deal only went down because of his cocaine business, 514 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:06,326 and the Mob was still in the dark about the cocaine business. 515 00:30:06,456 --> 00:30:10,809 So his victory was basically a betrayal of the Mob. 516 00:30:10,939 --> 00:30:14,160 I have no evidence that that story is true. 517 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:17,293 I don't know the end of that deal, the contracts. 518 00:30:17,424 --> 00:30:19,339 There's no indication that that happened. 519 00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:22,124 It sounds improbable to me. 520 00:30:22,255 --> 00:30:25,214 But, again, who would even make that up? 521 00:30:35,137 --> 00:30:39,968 AJ was very aware what they could potentially do to him. 522 00:30:40,099 --> 00:30:42,666 Now, you disrespect somebody in the Mob, 523 00:30:42,797 --> 00:30:44,799 that could be your life. 524 00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:47,193 Green: There's the story that AJ, as he was told, 525 00:30:47,323 --> 00:30:49,804 could become the cleanest made man in Mob history 526 00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:51,937 by negotiating the sale of the Tropicana, 527 00:30:52,067 --> 00:30:54,678 or at least making the sale possible. 528 00:30:54,809 --> 00:30:57,943 Did it actually happen? 529 00:30:58,073 --> 00:31:00,380 It's AJ's story,, and he was sticking to it. 530 00:31:02,948 --> 00:31:08,475 ♪ 531 00:31:08,605 --> 00:31:10,433 David: AJ and Barry Seal started doing business, 532 00:31:10,564 --> 00:31:11,870 and then all of a sudden, 533 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,350 Las Vegas was overloaded with cocaine. 534 00:31:14,481 --> 00:31:16,352 He saw the demand, and he supplied it. 535 00:31:44,467 --> 00:31:46,165 Sciutto: You know, he's very, very popular. 536 00:31:46,295 --> 00:31:48,689 He's designing for these mobsters, for their wives, 537 00:31:48,819 --> 00:31:51,257 for their friends, for celebrities, 538 00:31:51,387 --> 00:31:53,085 uh, even politicians. 539 00:31:53,215 --> 00:31:56,262 Clothing for Richard Nixon -- made him a tuxedo. 540 00:31:56,392 --> 00:31:58,655 Even Elvis Presley. 541 00:32:11,103 --> 00:32:15,281 ♪ 542 00:32:15,411 --> 00:32:19,502 ♪ Music and magic and party and come on ♪ 543 00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:24,290 ♪ Music and magic and party and come on ♪ 544 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,596 A man came over to AJ, talking about 545 00:32:26,727 --> 00:32:28,337 there was a guy that wanted to meet him. 546 00:32:28,468 --> 00:32:30,513 AJ: And I turned further to my left. 547 00:32:30,644 --> 00:32:33,081 And much to my surprise... 548 00:32:35,649 --> 00:32:37,346 ...it was Elvis Presley. 549 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,829 So you did stage clothes for him, or personal clothes? 550 00:33:33,054 --> 00:33:36,797 AJ put Elvis in his first jumpsuit. 551 00:33:36,927 --> 00:33:38,233 Up until then, he was really 552 00:33:38,364 --> 00:33:40,148 tuxedos with sequins and all that. 553 00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:43,108 They're backstage, and he said, 554 00:33:43,238 --> 00:33:44,761 "You know, I got an idea for you." 555 00:33:57,905 --> 00:34:00,560 Mann: I saw it on one of your old -- the photos you sent, 556 00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:02,344 you had an invoice. 557 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,174 Yes, yes. 558 00:34:08,916 --> 00:34:11,875 Russo: That changed Elvis's whole image on stage. 559 00:34:12,006 --> 00:34:14,487 He never was on stage again without a jumpsuit. 560 00:34:14,617 --> 00:34:16,576 [Chuckles] I mean, AJ did all this. 561 00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:18,534 That was crazy. 562 00:34:18,665 --> 00:34:21,798 But, see, that's another thing where not everything made sense. 563 00:34:21,929 --> 00:34:23,409 There's no question that Bill Belew 564 00:34:23,539 --> 00:34:25,585 designed and inspired, you know, 565 00:34:25,715 --> 00:34:28,240 that famous Elvis jumpsuit. 566 00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:30,068 So my question, though, is, 567 00:34:30,198 --> 00:34:33,854 so Bill Belew designed the first jumpsuit. 568 00:34:33,984 --> 00:34:35,899 When did you get involved? 569 00:34:40,817 --> 00:34:42,297 Okay. 570 00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:50,958 It makes a better story for AJ 571 00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,657 for him to be the prime mover 572 00:34:54,788 --> 00:34:58,226 of Elvis's jumpsuit or whatever, 573 00:34:58,357 --> 00:35:00,446 when, in fact, he might have been, you know, 574 00:35:00,576 --> 00:35:02,361 the second-tier person. 575 00:35:02,491 --> 00:35:04,537 But the fact is, he was involved. 576 00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:07,583 But AJ just, uh, gave himself a little more credit, perhaps, 577 00:35:07,714 --> 00:35:09,411 than he deserved. 578 00:35:18,246 --> 00:35:23,208 ♪ 579 00:35:23,338 --> 00:35:24,861 Argus is, from what I understand, 580 00:35:24,992 --> 00:35:26,863 he's the first one to do the scarves. 581 00:35:26,994 --> 00:35:31,041 In 2005, he had one of them on eBay, 582 00:35:31,172 --> 00:35:33,348 and I'm a collector of Elvis stuff, 583 00:35:33,479 --> 00:35:36,090 so I bought it off him. 584 00:35:36,221 --> 00:35:38,788 He called me right up. We talked for two hours. 585 00:35:38,919 --> 00:35:42,270 And he told me the stories about Elvis. 586 00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:45,055 And that's how Argus and I became friends. 587 00:35:47,884 --> 00:35:50,539 AJ: Elvis, uh -- he had glaucoma. 588 00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:52,454 He'd be sweating so much he couldn't see 589 00:35:52,585 --> 00:35:55,675 the end of the stage. He could not see the audience. 590 00:35:55,805 --> 00:35:59,592 So one night, a lady took a silk scarf 591 00:35:59,722 --> 00:36:02,029 that she was wearing around -- from around her neck, 592 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,465 a very elegant silk scarf, 593 00:36:03,596 --> 00:36:05,989 and she passed it to Elvis. 594 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,688 And Elvis used the silk scarf to wipe his face. 595 00:36:08,818 --> 00:36:12,431 And it was amazing because it felt good against his skin. 596 00:36:12,561 --> 00:36:15,042 So he turns around to his best friend. 597 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:16,522 He says, "Get the tailor. 598 00:36:16,652 --> 00:36:18,654 We gotta have these silk scarves made." 599 00:36:18,785 --> 00:36:22,223 And then that's how the idea came about doing scarves. 600 00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:51,296 AJ said that the silk was very difficult, 601 00:36:51,426 --> 00:36:53,994 almost impossible, to embroidery. 602 00:36:54,124 --> 00:36:57,127 I guess he said something to Elvis about the fact 603 00:36:57,258 --> 00:36:59,217 that they had to be done by hand. 604 00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:25,852 He said, "I want you to have this 605 00:37:25,982 --> 00:37:28,333 for all the hard work that you're doing." 606 00:37:28,463 --> 00:37:31,727 That was the story he told me. 607 00:37:31,858 --> 00:37:33,947 Rogers: And I think that's why him and Elvis -- 608 00:37:34,077 --> 00:37:35,601 that's how you get along, 'cause you appreciate 609 00:37:35,731 --> 00:37:38,560 what people do for you and what you do for them. 610 00:37:38,691 --> 00:37:41,041 That makes the whole ballgame. 611 00:37:41,171 --> 00:37:42,695 AJ: There was a lot of you maybe don't know that. 612 00:37:42,825 --> 00:37:44,958 That's a story, and that's how the silk scarves 613 00:37:45,088 --> 00:37:46,612 came into Elvis Presley's act. 614 00:37:48,178 --> 00:37:51,094 The business increases absolutely tremendously 615 00:37:51,225 --> 00:37:52,661 during the next several months. 616 00:37:52,792 --> 00:37:56,186 And at this point is where these idea 617 00:37:56,317 --> 00:38:00,756 of opening the studios around the country came up. 618 00:38:00,887 --> 00:38:02,454 Sciutto: So the Mob said, 619 00:38:02,584 --> 00:38:04,325 "We're gonna to do something nice for you, AJ." 620 00:38:04,456 --> 00:38:06,588 So what they did was they said they would finance 621 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,677 shops all over the country. 622 00:38:08,808 --> 00:38:11,985 Manna: AJ -- he was aware of who that loan was coming from 623 00:38:12,115 --> 00:38:15,902 and, uh, that he would have to pay it back at some point. 624 00:38:16,032 --> 00:38:18,731 But he had the guts and fearlessness, 625 00:38:18,861 --> 00:38:21,690 and maybe naivety, [chuckles] 626 00:38:21,821 --> 00:38:26,129 to just go with it and see what would happen. 627 00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:28,175 Green: You know, it is so hard to figure out 628 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,916 when dealing with the Mob, 629 00:38:30,046 --> 00:38:32,614 how much they want to be legitimate 630 00:38:32,745 --> 00:38:35,182 and how much they're just talking a good game. 631 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,445 And if they're going into the fashion business, 632 00:38:37,576 --> 00:38:39,273 that looks legitimate, 633 00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:40,622 but are they going to take something 634 00:38:40,753 --> 00:38:42,494 off the top or the bottom? 635 00:38:42,624 --> 00:38:45,497 Tailors could do both, I guess. So could the Mob. 636 00:38:45,627 --> 00:38:47,368 The question in that case is going to be, 637 00:38:47,499 --> 00:38:51,546 just how much is AJ gonna be controlled by them 638 00:38:51,677 --> 00:38:53,853 because he's gone in with them in business? 639 00:38:53,983 --> 00:38:58,336 ♪ 640 00:39:02,557 --> 00:39:05,299 Russo: AJ was opening these stores, 641 00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:09,303 and you're gonna try to create a brand under his name. 642 00:39:09,434 --> 00:39:11,740 David: The Mob -- they financed the four or maybe five 643 00:39:11,871 --> 00:39:15,135 different shops in different parts of the country. 644 00:39:15,265 --> 00:39:18,617 A lot of these Mafia guys were dangerous, tough people. 645 00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:20,923 It was a real dangerous type business. 646 00:39:21,054 --> 00:39:24,057 Russo: I think legitimately, like, within AJ, 647 00:39:24,187 --> 00:39:25,841 they wanted to help him. 648 00:39:25,972 --> 00:39:27,843 They helped a lot of people without, you know, 649 00:39:27,974 --> 00:39:29,758 shaking them down. 650 00:39:29,889 --> 00:39:34,241 But they knew they'd get repaid. 651 00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:36,243 Probably took a lot of cocaine to work off five shops, 652 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:38,288 I would imagine. 653 00:39:38,419 --> 00:39:39,812 AJ: I -- There was literally -- 654 00:39:39,942 --> 00:39:42,423 I was almost working around the clock. 655 00:40:08,144 --> 00:40:10,190 Still confused -- 656 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,279 maybe he just wanted to make a lot of money fast 657 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:13,889 and got into the drug business? 658 00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:15,804 He didn't need it. 659 00:40:15,935 --> 00:40:18,285 He didn't need to go in the drug business. 660 00:40:18,416 --> 00:40:21,114 He was playing a game, which I never thought he would do. 661 00:40:21,244 --> 00:40:22,811 You know, I knew him as the tailor. 662 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,084 It could have really killed him 663 00:41:18,214 --> 00:41:21,479 if the Civellas and these guys found out. 664 00:41:21,609 --> 00:41:24,525 When you're in my house? Forget about it. 665 00:41:25,657 --> 00:41:27,223 [Mimics cutting sound] 666 00:41:29,399 --> 00:41:32,315 So at this point, his cocaine business is thriving. 667 00:41:32,446 --> 00:41:34,056 His tailor business is thriving. 668 00:41:34,187 --> 00:41:35,928 But at the end of the day, 669 00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:38,278 he was aware of the dangers around him 670 00:41:38,408 --> 00:41:40,976 because of what happened to him a couple of years before. 671 00:41:43,936 --> 00:41:46,025 AJ: I sit down one night. 672 00:41:46,155 --> 00:41:47,896 It must be around 2:00 a.m. 673 00:41:48,027 --> 00:41:49,202 And all of a sudden I hear... 674 00:41:49,332 --> 00:41:51,117 [Banging] ..."Boom, boom," 675 00:41:51,247 --> 00:41:52,901 on my front door. 676 00:41:53,032 --> 00:41:56,339 I open the door and, uh, immediately 677 00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:58,341 my heart flew to my throat. 678 00:41:58,472 --> 00:42:02,084 I had five very large badges 679 00:42:02,215 --> 00:42:04,609 staring me in the face. 680 00:42:04,739 --> 00:42:09,570 And they just shoved me aside and walked into my apartment. 681 00:42:09,701 --> 00:42:11,398 Everything flashed in front of my mind. 682 00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:13,487 I thought, "Oh, my God! 683 00:42:13,618 --> 00:42:16,534 I've got my career going. Everything is going great. 684 00:42:16,664 --> 00:42:18,753 And now I'm gonna blow it all." 685 00:42:20,973 --> 00:42:22,844 I was scared to death. 686 00:42:25,717 --> 00:42:32,724 ♪ 687 00:42:32,854 --> 00:42:38,164 ♪ 688 00:42:38,294 --> 00:42:43,691 ♪ 689 00:42:43,822 --> 00:42:49,131 ♪ 690 00:42:49,262 --> 00:42:54,789 ♪ 51446

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