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Crashed UFOs.
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David Grusch said that
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they were in possession
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of an intact
extraterrestrial spacecraft.
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Recovered alien entities.
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Jesse
Marcel knew not only that there was
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a crashed craft but also bodies.
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Secret programs
to study otherworldly technology.
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Bob Lazar said
not only are we reverse engineering UFOs,
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but that he worked on one.
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For more than six decades,
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incredible claims have been made
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about an extraterrestrial
presence on Earth,
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and the government
has gone to great lengths
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to discredit them.
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Are we nearing the
day when whistleblowers
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will finally be taken seriously
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and their accounts proven true?
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There's absolutely
fear of being treated like you're crazy,
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but we have evidence
this is not crazy.
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It's not made
up. It's-it's real.
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There is a doorway
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in the universe.
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Beyond it is the
promise of truth.
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It demands we
question everything
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we have ever been taught.
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The evidence is all around us.
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The future is right
before our eyes.
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We are not alone.
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We have never been alone.
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The subcommittee hearing
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on unidentified
anomalous phenomena,
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or UAPs, will come to order.
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On Capitol Hill,
the House Oversight Committee
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assembles for a landmark
congressional hearing
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to record firsthand
accounts of UAP activity.
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As we convene here,
UAP are in our airspace,
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but they are grossly
underreported.
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These sightings are not rare
or isolated, they are routine.
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During the proceedings,
lawmakers listen to testimony
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from three notable
whistleblowers:
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Retired Navy pilots Ryan Graves
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and David Fravor,
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and former Air Force
intelligence officer
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David Grusch,
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who also served on
the UAP Task Force.
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The military veterans
have come forward
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to testify under oath
about UAPs that they claim
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the government has
been covering up.
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Parts of our
government are aware
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of more about UAP
than they let on,
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but excessive
classification practices
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keep crucial information hidden.
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Millions of people
are watching it,
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and they're hearing this
beyond dramatic testimony
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that, for the first
time, we're told
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what everybody knows to be true.
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The U.S. government
has been hiding secrets
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about UFOs for over 70 years.
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Whistleblower David
Grusch even suggests that the government
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may be in possession
of alien technology.
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I was informed in the
course of my official duties
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of a multi-decade,
UAP crash retrieval
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and reverse engineering program.
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For UFO
researchers and lawmakers alike,
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the hearing marks a
watershed moment,
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as many believe the Pentagon
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has been overly secretive about
unidentified aerial phenomena.
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To have a UAP
hearing on the House Oversight Committee
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was a first for
the history books.
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There was a lot of information
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that was shared and
alleged in that hearing,
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which made it one
of the most, I think,
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important hearings in the
Oversight Committee's history.
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The
hearing's explosive testimony
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made headlines across the world.
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And like many
government whistleblowers,
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the individuals who
sat before the committee
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came forward at
great personal risk.
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From a layperson's
perspective of what a whistleblower is,
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it is a person who has
got inside information
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about wrongdoing
who comes forward
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and at their own peril
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reveals this to
investigative reporters
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or to government officials.
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I had asked about
12 people to testify,
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and we got down to those
three because the others had...
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I think they'd been threatened
or warned not to come on.
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And some of them
told us that, in effect.
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If you're
gonna be a whistleblower,
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you got to know that
whatever deep dark secret
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exists in your life,
it's gonna come out.
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These guys know that,
when they come forward
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with something
as sensitive as this,
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they're gonna pay a price.
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Is the government
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actively discouraging people
from speaking out about UFOs?
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According to military insiders,
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the answer is a resounding yes.
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But the willingness of
whistleblowers to come forward,
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despite the risk,
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has led to more open discussion
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about the UFO
phenomenon than ever before.
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And the man who is most
credited with sparking interest
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among lawmakers on Capitol
Hill is whistleblower Luis Elizondo.
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Luis Elizondo, was a full-time,
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military, career
guy, United States Army,
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and a very high-ranking
counterintelligence officer.
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He was retained in 2007
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to a top-secret program,
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which is the advanced
weapons special access program,
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to investigate the
UFO phenomenon.
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He became involved in setting up
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some other special, kind
of less formal program
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inside the Pentagon
that was called
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the Advanced Aerospace
Threat Identification Program.
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For almost a decade,
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Elizondo studied UFOs
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and interviewed
eyewitnesses for the Army.
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But according to Elizondo,
the more he uncovered,
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the more his investigation
was suppressed.
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They were making some progress
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in the military,
in the Pentagon,
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but he's trying to get the
attention of his higher-ups.
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"Hey, look, these cases
are really important.
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"These encounters are
dramatic and unexplained.
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We need to put some
resources into studying this."
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And he got nowhere.
He kept getting blocked.
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So, he took a-a pretty
courageous stance and resigned.
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In October 2017,
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Lue Elizondo resigned from AATIP
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after Pentagon officials
refused to present
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his findings to Defense
Secretary James Mattis.
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I-I've seen too much.
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I've talked to too many people.
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I have too many reports.
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I-I know it's real.
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I-I can't in good conscience
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just keep my head
buried in the sand.
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I had to leave the
very job that I love
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to get my point across.
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He gets frustrated,
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and he decides to
do something about it.
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He becomes a whistleblower,
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not just a whistleblower,
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but perhaps the
whistleblower of all time.
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Just days after resigning,
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Elizondo shared his
story with reporters
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from The New York Times.
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And on December
16, the paper published
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a front-page
article that revealed
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the classified UFO program.
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In many ways, that
New York Times story
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really changed ufology
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around the world,
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because when The New
York Times got on board
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and is saying, "Yeah,
there are UFOs out there,"
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that opened a lot
of people's eyes.
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Along with the
article, The New York Times released
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three UFO videos
taken by Navy pilots,
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including the now
famous Tic Tac encounter.
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These videos
captured the world's attention.
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And suddenly, it's like
we're in a new world.
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We have these incredible
videos shot by Navy pilots
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giving irrefutable evidence
that there is a technology
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out there that is beyond
anything our near peers have.
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Look at it fly!
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Lue Elizondo was the core.
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I mean, without him
as the whistleblower,
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as the main impetus for it, that
story would never have happened.
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The videos, though, is what
galvanized public attention.
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Almost immediately
after Elizondo went public,
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elements within the government
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actively sought
to discredit him.
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Lue Elizondo
went through a tremendous amount
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of harassment from
senior Pentagon officials,
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former supervisors
of his and the like.
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Um, you had a-a statement
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in 2019 that came from
the Pentagon spokesperson,
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who stated that Luis Elizondo
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had no official office
with this office at AATIP,
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in the Advanced Aerospace
Threat Identification Program.
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Lue Elizondo
knew he'd pay a price,
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but it was almost immediate.
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The Pentagon
undercut his credibility.
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But he's a
courageous individual,
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and he stuck to his guns,
and he changed the world.
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From Lue
Elizondo's 2017 AATIP revelations
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to the 2023 Congressional
UAP hearing,
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whistleblowers today are
making their voices heard
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like never before.
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But they are just the latest in
a long line of whistleblowers
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who've been coming forward
to tell their stories for decades.
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And the most controversial
of their claims...
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that the U.S. military is in
possession of alien technology...
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can be traced all
the way back to 1947
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and an Army Air Force Major
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who was at the heart
of the Roswell incident.
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Roswell, New Mexico.
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July 1947.
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An unidentified object
is witnessed streaking
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across the night sky,
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then crashes in the
desert north of town
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near the Roswell Army Air Field.
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Rancher Mac Brazel
hears the impact
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and investigates
the next morning.
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Mac Brazel is the first
to find the debris field,
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and it's an
impressive debris field.
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Pieces, objects and
things everywhere.
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And Brazel reports it to
the local Roswell sheriff,
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a man named George Wilcox.
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And Wilcox, sends
some deputies out there,
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and, the case just
gets crazier from there.
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Roswell Army Air Field sends
people out to investigate it.
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The next thing you know,
the press release goes out.
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"Army captures flying disc."
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Shortly after the
U.S. Air Force said,
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"We've recovered a flying
disc," they reversed their position
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and said it was just
a weather balloon.
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The Roswell incident has become
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the most notorious
alleged cover-up
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of a UFO crash and
retrieval in U.S. history.
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And at the center of it all...
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is whistleblower Jesse Marcel.
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My grandfather,
Major Jesse Marcel,
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back in July of 1947,
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was the head of intelligence
for the 509th bombing group.
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That was heavily involved
in our atomic program
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to end the second World War
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and pretty well versed
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in the latest
technologies, aircraft,
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what have you at the time.
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Major Jesse Marcel was
really the lead investigator
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into what has become known
as the "Roswell incident."
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On July 7,
Major Marcel was dispatched
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from Roswell Army Air Field to
examine the mysterious debris.
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According to his grandson,
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Marcel was so
astounded by what he saw
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that he took the
debris home with him.
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He...
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went and woke up
his son, my father,
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who was about 12
years old at the time,
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and his wife Viaud, and said,
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"You guys got to come
take a look at this."
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He couldn't make heads
or tails or any sense
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out of what he was looking at.
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Even stranger,
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while examining the wreckage,
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Marcel's family discovered
several mysterious markings.
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One thing they noticed was
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it almost had no weight to it.
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And my father picked
up what was a beam
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about 11, 12 inches long.
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And all of a sudden,
these symbols appeared.
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And he really came to the idea
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that, whatever this was, it
was not made by human hands.
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The next morning,
Major Marcel was summoned
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to the Fort Worth
Army Air Field in Texas.
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There, he was
given strict orders
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not to reveal the truth
about the Roswell crash,
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and for three
decades, he didn't.
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But in February of 1978,
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Marcel finally
broke his silence.
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My
Grandfather was a ham radio operator,
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loved to talk.
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He was talking on ham radio,
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and somebody recognized his
name as being part of the air base.
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And he talked a little
bit about Roswell.
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And soon enough,
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a gentleman by the name of
Stanton Friedman heard of it,
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and interviewed my
grandfather about it.
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And that was really
when it broke out.
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Stanton Friedman was
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an American-Canadian
nuclear physicist
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who began scientifically
investigating UFOs
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in the 1960s,
due to his curiosity
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about what happened at Roswell.
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When he learned that
Jesse Marcel was ready
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to reveal the truth,
he went to visit him
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at his home in
Southern Louisiana.
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Major Marcel told me... I
was the first to talk to him...
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that what they were trying
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to keep under wraps
was actual wreckage
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of a flying saucer.
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General Roger Ramey,
head of the Eighth Air Force,
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covered it up very
straightforwardly.
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Roger Ramey
came to Roswell and said,
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"Bring all the UFO
material to Fort Worth,
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Eighth Air Force headquarters,
and we'll disclose the truth."
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But Major Jesse Marcel
goes to Fort Worth,
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and they bring out
a weather balloon.
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And they make Jesse Marcel,
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a radar-trained
intelligence officer,
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stand in front of
a weather balloon
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and admit that he was confused.
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Everybody was
familiar with weather balloons.
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The notion that Jesse Marcel,
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the intelligence
officer for the 509th,
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couldn't recognize a
weather balloon is ridiculous.
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According to Friedman,
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in order to ensure
that the truth
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about Roswell remained
hidden from the public,
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the military not only had
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to stage the famous
weather balloon photo,
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but also make sure
that Marcel and others
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who knew the real
story toed the line.
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You agree that you
will not reveal anything
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you've learned
that was classified
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to anybody without
a need-to-know
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and an appropriate
security clearance.
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There are darn few people who,
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after the war, incidentally,
broke their security oaths.
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My
Grandfather broke his bond of secrecy.
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I think that, in
some small part,
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he was looking for a
little bit of, you know, like,
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"Hey, you guys, you know,
there is something to this."
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Despite his excitement
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over what he had
found in the debris field,
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Marcel maintained his silence
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until he was 70 years old.
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People who are
involved in keeping secrets,
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it poisons you, and you
feel this great release
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when you finally get it out
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and say, "Yeah, you
know, it's all true."
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I've spoken to
military witnesses
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who sat on stories for 50 years
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out of loyalty, out
of a belief that...
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that the law constrained them.
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But Marcel, 30
years on, he was like,
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"Okay, that's enough
of the cover story.
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Here's what really happened."
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After Marcel
broke his silence in 1978,
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it caused a sensation,
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and Friedman began
referring to the Roswell coverup
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as a "cosmic Watergate."
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Before 1978, the Roswell crash
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was pretty much unheard of.
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Only in the hardcore groups
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of UFO people would
you know about Roswell.
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Jesse Marcel blew open the door
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to the most famous
UFO crash story
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that you can think of today.
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Could it be
that Jesse Marcel is just one
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of dozens, or perhaps
even hundreds
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of military personnel who have
witnessed unexplainable events
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that they are
forbidden to reveal?
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UFO researchers suggest
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the Roswell incident
was the beginning
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of a decades-long
government coverup.
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One that involved an elaborate
disinformation campaign
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disguised as an official
UFO investigation
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called "Project Blue Book."
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The famous Roswell incident
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was just one of many
high-profile encounters
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with unidentified flying objects
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that occurred
during the late 1940s.
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In June 1947,
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pilot Kenneth Arnold
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reported seeing nine
silver disc-shaped objects
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flying near Mount Rainier.
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Less than one month later,
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sailor Harold Dahl reported
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that a flying disc
dropped molten slag
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onto his boat near
Maury Island, Washington.
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And in January 1948,
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Army Captain Thomas Mantell
tragically died in a plane crash
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while chasing a UFO
over Western Ohio.
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These and other similar
events prompted the government
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to launch Project
Blue Book in 1952.
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Project Blue Book was
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the U.S. Air Force
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research and investigation
program into UFOs.
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This was a project
that took some years,
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but by the mid-60s,
there's 20,000 cases there.
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So, this was one of the
most significant investigations
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of UFOs of its time.
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Project Blue
Book would last 18 years,
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and involve dozens
of investigators.
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Chief among them were Air
Force Captain Edward J. Ruppelt,
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astronomer Jacques Vallée,
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and Project Blue
Book's scientific advisor,
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Dr. J. Allen Hynek.
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According to
Dr. Hynek's son Paul,
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the Air Force made its
agenda clear right from the start.
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The Air Force came
calling to my father
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in the late '40s, asking him
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to tamp down reports
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of flying saucers.
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My father was very
useful to Project Blue Book
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because he had the
academic credibility
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to get people to
believe what he's saying.
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J. Allen Hynek
was an astronomy professor,
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brought on by
the U.S. Air Force.
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And to start off with,
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he-he absolutely
took the party line.
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But while the
purpose of Project Blue Book
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was to discredit UFOs,
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over the course of his tenure,
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Hynek grew to question
the project's mission.
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My father was
muzzled by the Air Force
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in terms of what they
would investigate,
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how serious they
would investigate it,
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and what he was
allowed to disclose.
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He had a front row center seat
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to the most confidential aspects
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of the early days of
the UFO phenomena.
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And my father went
from a diehard skeptic
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to an acceptor
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of the accumulated
weight of the data.
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Hynek's findings
were dismissed by his superiors,
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who demanded that he
continue to debunk UFO reports.
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And when Project Blue
Book ended in 1969,
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Hynek went public.
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He was really the main person
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to draw attention to the fact
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that Project Blue Book was
not set out to find the truth
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but to control the narrative.
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J. Allen Hynek was
one of the most outspoken voices
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about the government efforts
to suppress evidence of UFOs.
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And some researchers believe
he would have spoken out sooner,
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if it wasn't for a tragic event
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that happened to
one of his colleagues...
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Air Force Captain
Edward Ruppelt.
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Edward Ruppelt was the
first director of Project Blue Book.
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During his tenure,
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which lasted close to two years,
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Ruppelt was in charge of
all of the best information
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that the United States
Air Force was acquiring
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at that time about... as he
began calling them... UFOs.
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And Ruppelt actually
gave us that term,
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"unidentified flying object."
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Project Blue Book
was ostensibly a military project
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to debunk UFOs,
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but Ruppelt wasn't
going along with that.
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Ruppelt was saying, "no,
there's something going on here.
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We need to look at this."
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Captain Ruppelt
frequently found himself at odds
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with his superiors.
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Like when he tried to
investigate a major UFO incident
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that occurred right
over the nation's capital.
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On Saturday, July 19, 1952,
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at 11:40 p.m.,
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air traffic controllers at
Washington National Airport
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and Andrews Air Force Base
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detected seven
unidentified flying objects
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on their radar screens.
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00:22:29,333 --> 00:22:32,208
The UFO sightings
caused a sensation,
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and, incredibly,
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more unidentified objects
were detected again
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the following weekend.
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For two
weeks, Washington, D.C.,
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is buzzed by a
fleet of seven UFOs.
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They literally fly
over the White House,
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over the Capitol,
Washington National Airport.
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Ruppelt was in Washington
while this is happening,
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and he wanted to investigate.
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00:22:54,375 --> 00:22:56,250
And his frustration begins,
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because he's told he
can't have a staff car
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because he's not a general.
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If he wants to investigate it,
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go get himself a taxi.
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Frustrated by what he saw
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as a government effort
to debunk all UFOs,
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in 1953, Ruppelt resigned
from Project Blue Book.
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And a few years later, he
made his findings public.
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In 1956,
Ruppelt publishes a book
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about his experience as the
director of Project Blue Book,
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The Report on
Unidentified Flying Objects.
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This book is
incredibly important,
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because this is the first time
that the public gets a glimpse
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of the inner workings of the
government's investigations
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into UFOs from an insider.
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One of the things
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Ruppelt pointed out in his
book that was really interesting
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and important was to
show that, within the military,
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particularly the Air Force,
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many of them took UFOs
quite seriously and believed
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that this was interplanetary.
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That was the word they
were using back then.
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Ruppelt's book
captivated readers across the country.
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Its popularity led to an
updated version being published
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four years later.
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But, curiously, in
the new printing,
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00:24:07,875 --> 00:24:12,333
Ruppelt completely reversed his
position on the UFO phenomenon.
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In 1960,
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Ruppelt had a second
edition of his book,
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and he said that
UFOs were a hoax,
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that they did not exist.
489
00:24:24,167 --> 00:24:26,333
The strange
thing is, is that he dies
490
00:24:26,542 --> 00:24:27,962
within months of the
release of the book.
491
00:24:28,042 --> 00:24:30,792
He's a 37-year-old man
who dies of a heart attack.
492
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,500
And now, on top of this,
493
00:24:32,708 --> 00:24:35,167
the UFO community is
wondering what happened to him.
494
00:24:35,292 --> 00:24:37,542
Is there a conspiracy here?
495
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:40,708
It is still one of the
most enduring mysteries
496
00:24:40,875 --> 00:24:45,542
of when a UFO
investigator essentially left us
497
00:24:45,708 --> 00:24:46,958
before their time.
498
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,792
Is it possible
that Captain Edward Ruppelt
499
00:24:50,958 --> 00:24:54,792
paid the ultimate price for
exposing a government cover-up
500
00:24:54,875 --> 00:24:56,667
regarding UFOs?
501
00:24:56,792 --> 00:24:59,375
Perhaps further
clues can be found
502
00:24:59,542 --> 00:25:01,333
in the statements of
another whistleblower
503
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:04,292
who claimed to have
reverse engineered
504
00:25:04,458 --> 00:25:06,875
an alien spacecraft.
505
00:25:13,042 --> 00:25:16,833
Throughout
the 1950s, '60s and '70s,
506
00:25:17,042 --> 00:25:20,875
dozens of whistleblowers came
forward with incredible claims
507
00:25:21,042 --> 00:25:25,125
about the government's knowledge
of extraterrestrial visitation.
508
00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:28,667
But for many UFO researchers,
509
00:25:28,875 --> 00:25:30,542
the most important
revelations of all
510
00:25:30,708 --> 00:25:33,250
came in the late 1980s,
511
00:25:33,458 --> 00:25:37,708
from a physicist
named Bob Lazar.
512
00:25:37,875 --> 00:25:42,000
The first person Lazar told
his story to was his close friend,
513
00:25:42,167 --> 00:25:45,583
retired CIA pilot John Lear.
514
00:25:46,583 --> 00:25:48,792
Bob Lazar used to
work at Los Alamos.
515
00:25:49,792 --> 00:25:52,500
Had the highest clearance
that you can get there.
516
00:25:52,667 --> 00:25:55,625
And he worked for
517
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:58,792
three or four months
up there at Area 51.
518
00:25:59,542 --> 00:26:02,208
While working at
the top-secret Air Force facility
519
00:26:02,375 --> 00:26:05,333
known as Area 51,
520
00:26:05,458 --> 00:26:07,417
Lazar revealed to his friend
521
00:26:07,625 --> 00:26:09,917
that a remarkable
object was hidden deep
522
00:26:10,083 --> 00:26:13,208
within the secret
military compound.
523
00:26:13,375 --> 00:26:16,667
Was December 6 of '88.
524
00:26:16,792 --> 00:26:19,458
He comes in, he sits
down there at, my desk
525
00:26:19,625 --> 00:26:22,000
and he said, "I
saw a disc today."
526
00:26:22,167 --> 00:26:23,500
And I said, "What?"
527
00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:25,083
He said, "I saw a disc."
528
00:26:26,083 --> 00:26:28,125
And I said, "You
saw a flying saucer?"
529
00:26:28,292 --> 00:26:30,125
He said, "Yeah. Sure did.
530
00:26:30,292 --> 00:26:31,500
"I saw 'em. I touched 'em.
531
00:26:31,667 --> 00:26:33,458
They are real."
532
00:26:33,625 --> 00:26:34,837
And I said, "Well,
there's no reason
533
00:26:34,917 --> 00:26:36,583
"you should be here right now,
534
00:26:36,750 --> 00:26:39,125
"because they're going
to have followed you.
535
00:26:39,208 --> 00:26:41,167
They know exactly
what you're doing."
536
00:26:42,333 --> 00:26:43,708
Four months later,
537
00:26:43,875 --> 00:26:46,000
Lear learned that his
concerns about Lazar
538
00:26:46,125 --> 00:26:49,792
being watched by the
military were well-founded.
539
00:26:49,917 --> 00:26:52,417
Lazar revealed that
Air Force officers
540
00:26:52,625 --> 00:26:54,500
at Area 51 had approached him
541
00:26:54,667 --> 00:26:57,125
to let him know that they
had been keeping track
542
00:26:57,292 --> 00:27:00,833
of not only him but also his wife.
543
00:27:01,042 --> 00:27:02,503
They had
some private information
544
00:27:02,583 --> 00:27:04,708
that his wife was
having an affair.
545
00:27:05,708 --> 00:27:07,750
Said, "We can't have
anybody working with us
546
00:27:07,917 --> 00:27:09,833
"who has, family
problems like that.
547
00:27:10,042 --> 00:27:12,500
"So we need to suspend
your work up there
548
00:27:12,708 --> 00:27:15,708
until, you get
things sorted out."
549
00:27:17,375 --> 00:27:21,083
And that was April 7 of '89.
550
00:27:21,208 --> 00:27:24,250
And, that's when
he decided to go public.
551
00:27:24,375 --> 00:27:26,083
With Bob's permission,
552
00:27:26,250 --> 00:27:28,667
Lear shared his story
with a reporter he knew
553
00:27:28,833 --> 00:27:31,167
at the local KLAS-TV station,
554
00:27:31,333 --> 00:27:32,792
George Knapp.
555
00:27:33,625 --> 00:27:36,250
On May 15, Knapp
sat down with Lazar
556
00:27:36,458 --> 00:27:38,917
for a live interview.
557
00:27:39,083 --> 00:27:41,750
We had a five-minute
live interview segment every night.
558
00:27:41,917 --> 00:27:43,667
And I don't remember
who it was that day,
559
00:27:43,833 --> 00:27:45,667
but they canceled
late in the day.
560
00:27:45,833 --> 00:27:47,295
And I didn't know
what we were gonna do.
561
00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:49,542
And I thought, "I wonder
if Lear's UFO buddy
562
00:27:49,667 --> 00:27:50,667
might be available."
563
00:27:50,750 --> 00:27:52,667
I had no idea who Bob Lazar was.
564
00:27:52,875 --> 00:27:55,917
And so we sent a live
unit up to Lear's home.
565
00:27:56,083 --> 00:27:58,833
This skinny, bespectacled
guy comes out.
566
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,333
We had to hide his
identity. Silhouette.
567
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:04,875
We used a pseudonym
and we started interviewing
568
00:28:05,042 --> 00:28:06,792
and out spills this story
569
00:28:06,958 --> 00:28:11,917
of a secret facility built
up in the Area 51 complex.
570
00:28:12,875 --> 00:28:14,667
Exactly what's
going on up there?
571
00:28:14,833 --> 00:28:17,000
Well, there's several...
572
00:28:17,167 --> 00:28:21,208
actually, nine, flying
saucers, flying discs,
573
00:28:21,417 --> 00:28:24,750
that are out there
of extraterrestrial origin.
574
00:28:24,875 --> 00:28:26,333
And they're being test-flown
575
00:28:26,542 --> 00:28:29,333
and, basically just analyzed.
576
00:28:30,875 --> 00:28:34,167
It is the highest-rated
locally produced series
577
00:28:34,292 --> 00:28:35,750
ever airing in Las Vegas.
578
00:28:35,917 --> 00:28:38,292
And it changed the
course of my life.
579
00:28:39,292 --> 00:28:41,917
After Lazar's sensational claim,
580
00:28:42,083 --> 00:28:46,208
Area 51 became the
center of public interest.
581
00:28:46,333 --> 00:28:48,375
And UFO enthusiasts
582
00:28:48,542 --> 00:28:50,958
began to comb the Nevada desert
583
00:28:51,042 --> 00:28:54,792
in search of the secret
military installation.
584
00:28:55,792 --> 00:28:58,833
Bob Lazar ultimately
revealed his identity.
585
00:28:58,917 --> 00:29:03,208
And once he did, his life
would never be the same.
586
00:29:03,417 --> 00:29:04,750
Bob Lazar,
587
00:29:04,875 --> 00:29:08,875
he was ripped apart
for this information.
588
00:29:09,042 --> 00:29:11,250
In fact, it got so bad
589
00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:13,375
where his house was broken in,
590
00:29:13,542 --> 00:29:14,583
he was harassed,
591
00:29:14,750 --> 00:29:16,625
his family was threatened.
592
00:29:16,792 --> 00:29:19,208
Lazar thought
he was gonna be killed.
593
00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:20,667
We were being followed.
594
00:29:20,875 --> 00:29:22,125
We were being tracked.
595
00:29:22,292 --> 00:29:23,292
Our phones were tapped.
596
00:29:23,375 --> 00:29:24,833
We were being watched.
597
00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:27,750
I mean, I made an open
appeal to our audience.
598
00:29:27,917 --> 00:29:29,542
I said, "Look, I know
there are people
599
00:29:29,708 --> 00:29:31,125
"who are watching
this program now
600
00:29:31,250 --> 00:29:33,042
"who know about the
reverse engineering.
601
00:29:33,208 --> 00:29:34,833
And I want you to
reach out to me."
602
00:29:34,958 --> 00:29:36,833
And six times in a row,
603
00:29:36,958 --> 00:29:38,833
people who contacted me,
604
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,792
offered to meet with
me and go on camera,
605
00:29:40,917 --> 00:29:42,917
were visited the very next day
606
00:29:43,083 --> 00:29:45,292
by people purporting
to be government agents
607
00:29:45,458 --> 00:29:47,625
who told them to
shut the hell up or else.
608
00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:50,500
And in a couple of those cases,
they were threatened with death.
609
00:29:52,750 --> 00:29:54,750
Faced with constant harassment,
610
00:29:54,917 --> 00:29:57,417
Lazar retreated
from public view.
611
00:29:57,583 --> 00:30:01,000
Then, in 2013,
612
00:30:01,167 --> 00:30:05,500
24 years after Bob
Lazar's explosive interview,
613
00:30:05,708 --> 00:30:07,833
a Freedom of
Information Act request
614
00:30:08,042 --> 00:30:13,417
forced the government to finally
reveal the existence of Area 51.
615
00:30:14,625 --> 00:30:17,000
While Air Force
officials still denied
616
00:30:17,125 --> 00:30:19,042
that the facility
had anything to do
617
00:30:19,208 --> 00:30:21,750
with extraterrestrial
craft or beings,
618
00:30:21,917 --> 00:30:25,625
Lazar felt a sense
of vindication.
619
00:30:25,792 --> 00:30:29,208
In 2018, he decided
620
00:30:29,375 --> 00:30:33,708
to share his story in filmmaker
Jeremy Corbell's documentary
621
00:30:33,833 --> 00:30:38,458
Area 51 & Flying Saucers.
622
00:30:40,875 --> 00:30:42,458
In the late 1980s,
623
00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:47,250
the U.S. government had
recovered alien spacecraft,
624
00:30:47,375 --> 00:30:48,667
several of them,
625
00:30:48,875 --> 00:30:51,583
and the technology
in the Nevada desert
626
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:54,208
that they were keeping
quiet and analyzing.
627
00:30:55,292 --> 00:30:56,500
That's a fact.
628
00:30:56,708 --> 00:31:00,583
I think after he saw
some time passing
629
00:31:00,750 --> 00:31:04,500
and saw how people were
saying things that he never said,
630
00:31:04,667 --> 00:31:06,750
it just finally got to him.
631
00:31:06,917 --> 00:31:08,545
And he's a fighter.
So I think he just got
632
00:31:08,625 --> 00:31:10,420
to a point where he was
saying, "Okay, enough is enough.
633
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:12,250
Here we go. What
do you want to know?"
634
00:31:12,417 --> 00:31:14,958
I don't like being
in the public eye.
635
00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:16,750
I don't have money
for doing this.
636
00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:18,666
And, quite frankly, I
could make up a better lie.
637
00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:19,542
And, quite frankly, I
could make up a better lie.
638
00:31:19,667 --> 00:31:22,500
But I have no motivation to lie.
639
00:31:24,042 --> 00:31:27,125
Jeremy's film was
an atomic bomb all over again.
640
00:31:27,292 --> 00:31:31,000
A whole new generation of
people got to learn about Bob Lazar.
641
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,833
And I think it inspired
some of the people
642
00:31:34,042 --> 00:31:36,833
who are now coming
forward as-as whistleblowers
643
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,208
to go ahead and have
the courage to speak up.
644
00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:42,333
Could it be that Bob Lazar
645
00:31:42,542 --> 00:31:45,583
was targeted by a campaign
to suppress the truth
646
00:31:45,708 --> 00:31:49,333
about alien
technology at Area 51?
647
00:31:49,542 --> 00:31:53,417
Many believe Lazar's
willingness to come forward
648
00:31:53,583 --> 00:31:56,250
opened the door for
another whistleblower,
649
00:31:56,417 --> 00:32:00,167
one who exposed a conspiracy
so vast it would take him
650
00:32:00,292 --> 00:32:04,292
into the halls of the
United States Congress.
651
00:32:13,125 --> 00:32:15,667
The Debrief,
a science news website,
652
00:32:15,833 --> 00:32:18,083
publishes a
sensational interview
653
00:32:18,208 --> 00:32:22,542
with military intelligence
officer David Grusch.
654
00:32:22,750 --> 00:32:24,125
David Grusch,
655
00:32:24,292 --> 00:32:27,958
he's a former intelligence
community officer,
656
00:32:28,083 --> 00:32:31,875
he served on the UAP Task Force
657
00:32:32,042 --> 00:32:34,833
under the directorship
of Jay Stratton,
658
00:32:34,958 --> 00:32:36,958
and he was a representative
659
00:32:37,125 --> 00:32:41,917
of the National
Geospatial-Intelligence Agency.
660
00:32:42,083 --> 00:32:44,083
While I was on the
UAP Task Force,
661
00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:47,000
Dave Grusch was given the job
662
00:32:47,208 --> 00:32:50,833
to go and start
interviewing people
663
00:32:51,042 --> 00:32:53,167
who worked on a
previous UFO program,
664
00:32:53,333 --> 00:32:55,167
see what they were
willing to tell us.
665
00:32:55,375 --> 00:32:57,250
And he found a lot of things.
666
00:32:57,417 --> 00:33:00,458
In the Debrief
article, Grusch revealed
667
00:33:00,667 --> 00:33:03,583
that as part of his official
duties at the Pentagon,
668
00:33:03,792 --> 00:33:06,292
he was informed
of a decades-long,
669
00:33:06,417 --> 00:33:10,833
top secret military program to
recover and reverse engineer
670
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,833
crashed craft of
nonhuman origin.
671
00:33:13,958 --> 00:33:16,833
It was his job
to go and interview
672
00:33:16,917 --> 00:33:19,125
some of the people in the system
673
00:33:19,333 --> 00:33:23,625
who are actively responsible
for keeping it secret.
674
00:33:23,708 --> 00:33:25,333
And he says it's all real.
675
00:33:25,542 --> 00:33:27,378
Everything you've heard,
everything you've been told,
676
00:33:27,458 --> 00:33:30,250
all the rumors
about crashed UFOs,
677
00:33:30,417 --> 00:33:32,625
dead bodies, it's all true.
678
00:33:33,875 --> 00:33:34,920
Grusch interviewed, he said,
679
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,458
about 40 witnesses
680
00:33:36,583 --> 00:33:39,000
within the national
security establishment.
681
00:33:39,167 --> 00:33:42,167
He stated that there are
682
00:33:42,333 --> 00:33:45,292
multiple alien craft,
683
00:33:45,458 --> 00:33:47,708
that the United
States government
684
00:33:47,875 --> 00:33:51,500
or its licensed private
contractors have possession of.
685
00:33:51,708 --> 00:33:55,083
And he stated that there
were what he called "biologics"
686
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:56,375
that were recovered.
687
00:33:56,542 --> 00:33:58,708
That's his word
for alien bodies.
688
00:33:58,875 --> 00:34:02,667
I've been in a
secure environment with Dave
689
00:34:02,833 --> 00:34:06,000
and have had been briefed on
everything that he's uncovered,
690
00:34:06,167 --> 00:34:09,917
and, everything
that he's saying in public
691
00:34:10,083 --> 00:34:14,125
has been approved by,
the-the Defense Department
692
00:34:14,292 --> 00:34:16,333
and, also, by the
Inspector General.
693
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:19,833
There's a-a "there" there,
as-as the saying goes,
694
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,042
and, we would all be
wise to listen to the stories.
695
00:34:24,208 --> 00:34:27,833
Astonished
by the scope of the project,
696
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,667
Grusch came forward
as a whistleblower.
697
00:34:30,833 --> 00:34:33,673
He decided that the Pentagon
was withholding critical information
698
00:34:33,792 --> 00:34:37,208
on this subject from Congress,
which he argued was illegal.
699
00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:40,417
And he, ended up
issuing a complaint about this
700
00:34:40,583 --> 00:34:42,000
to the Inspector
General's office
701
00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:43,408
of the intelligence community.
702
00:34:43,542 --> 00:34:47,708
On July 26, 2023,
703
00:34:47,875 --> 00:34:51,083
just seven weeks
after going public,
704
00:34:51,250 --> 00:34:54,083
David Grusch and two
other whistleblowers
705
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:57,917
testified before a
Congressional hearing.
706
00:34:58,042 --> 00:35:01,083
I have taken every step I can
to corroborate this evidence
707
00:35:01,250 --> 00:35:03,125
over a period of four years
708
00:35:03,292 --> 00:35:05,333
while I was with
the UAP Task Force,
709
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,125
and do my due diligence
on the individuals sharing it.
710
00:35:08,250 --> 00:35:10,875
This is... Because
of these steps,
711
00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:13,833
I believe strongly,
in the importance
712
00:35:14,042 --> 00:35:15,958
of bringing this
information before you.
713
00:35:16,083 --> 00:35:17,625
During his testimony,
714
00:35:17,792 --> 00:35:22,250
Grusch revealed specific
details of military UAP encounters.
715
00:35:22,417 --> 00:35:25,250
He also stated that despite
having nothing to gain
716
00:35:25,417 --> 00:35:28,417
by disclosing this information,
717
00:35:28,542 --> 00:35:33,542
his testimony made him a target
for significant repercussions.
718
00:35:33,708 --> 00:35:35,042
Mr. Grusch,
719
00:35:35,208 --> 00:35:37,333
have you faced any
retaliation or reprisals
720
00:35:37,542 --> 00:35:39,708
for any of your
testimony or anything?
721
00:35:39,917 --> 00:35:43,625
Yeah, I have to be
careful what I say in detail
722
00:35:43,792 --> 00:35:45,333
because there is an open,
723
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:48,417
whistleblower reprisal
investigation on my behalf,
724
00:35:48,583 --> 00:35:50,253
and I don't want to
compromise that investigation.
725
00:35:50,333 --> 00:35:54,125
But it was very brutal
and, very unfortunate,
726
00:35:54,292 --> 00:35:56,667
some of the
tactics they used to,
727
00:35:56,875 --> 00:35:58,250
um, hurt me both professionally
728
00:35:58,375 --> 00:36:00,750
and-and personally,
to be quite frank.
729
00:36:00,875 --> 00:36:04,667
We were told that
individuals had been killed
730
00:36:04,792 --> 00:36:06,417
protecting this information.
731
00:36:06,542 --> 00:36:11,000
He's in fear of his life as well
as the, safety of his wife.
732
00:36:11,167 --> 00:36:13,833
There is something more
nefarious at play here.
733
00:36:14,042 --> 00:36:17,583
Almost immediately
following his dramatic testimony,
734
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:21,167
articles in the press
attempted to discredit Grusch,
735
00:36:21,375 --> 00:36:24,625
making a string of accusations
aimed at questioning
736
00:36:24,792 --> 00:36:26,500
his mental state.
737
00:36:26,625 --> 00:36:30,875
They tried to say
that because he had deployed
738
00:36:31,042 --> 00:36:32,833
and some of his
friends have died,
739
00:36:32,958 --> 00:36:34,667
he might have PTSD.
740
00:36:34,792 --> 00:36:37,250
They tried to discredit
him, which is just
741
00:36:37,417 --> 00:36:39,337
the most egregious smear
that they could ever run
742
00:36:39,542 --> 00:36:41,875
on a military service member.
743
00:36:42,042 --> 00:36:45,792
The article
sensationalized his mental difficulties.
744
00:36:45,917 --> 00:36:47,333
And it turns out that,
745
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:49,875
the author of it
actually acknowledged,
746
00:36:50,042 --> 00:36:53,250
publicly, that he had been
contacted by, sources
747
00:36:53,417 --> 00:36:57,167
inside the Defense Department
and directed to do this.
748
00:36:58,542 --> 00:37:00,667
We have a
generations-long history
749
00:37:00,833 --> 00:37:04,542
of the federal government
trying to discredit witnesses,
750
00:37:04,708 --> 00:37:06,917
and I believe we saw
that with David Grusch.
751
00:37:07,083 --> 00:37:09,333
The
U.S. military denies
752
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:12,875
David Grusch's
sensational allegations.
753
00:37:13,042 --> 00:37:15,625
But if what he says isn't true,
754
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:18,083
then why did members
of the Defense Department
755
00:37:18,208 --> 00:37:21,333
actively try to
discredit his testimony?
756
00:37:21,542 --> 00:37:24,042
The claims made by David Grusch,
757
00:37:24,208 --> 00:37:26,375
and other
whistleblowers like him,
758
00:37:26,542 --> 00:37:28,875
have brought more attention
to the UFO phenomenon
759
00:37:29,042 --> 00:37:31,375
than ever before.
760
00:37:31,542 --> 00:37:35,500
And ancient astronaut
theorists believe that the truth
761
00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:38,333
about an extraterrestrial
presence on Earth
762
00:37:38,458 --> 00:37:41,333
may finally be revealed.
763
00:37:50,167 --> 00:37:51,667
After more than 70 years
764
00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:53,417
of whistleblower testimony
765
00:37:53,583 --> 00:37:55,167
claiming that the
U.S. government
766
00:37:55,375 --> 00:37:58,417
is covering up the
truth about UFOs,
767
00:37:58,583 --> 00:38:02,583
members of Congress
finally decide to take action.
768
00:38:02,750 --> 00:38:05,250
I'm pleased the NDAA
will include my amendment
769
00:38:05,417 --> 00:38:07,667
on increasing
transparency on UAPs,
770
00:38:07,833 --> 00:38:10,667
or unidentified
anomalous phenomena.
771
00:38:10,833 --> 00:38:13,833
Senate Majority
Leader Chuck Schumer sponsors
772
00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:17,500
the Unidentified Anomalous
Phenomena Disclosure Act.
773
00:38:17,625 --> 00:38:19,667
The bill would
require the release
774
00:38:19,875 --> 00:38:22,667
of all government
knowledge of UAPs.
775
00:38:22,833 --> 00:38:26,250
But UFO researchers
are left frustrated
776
00:38:26,417 --> 00:38:30,458
when it is finally signed
into law five months later.
777
00:38:30,583 --> 00:38:34,917
Some really robust and
new whistleblower provisions
778
00:38:35,083 --> 00:38:36,083
were drafted,
779
00:38:36,208 --> 00:38:38,333
but not a lot of that
780
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,167
actually made it
into the final bill.
781
00:38:41,292 --> 00:38:43,750
In fact, a lot of the
really interesting
782
00:38:43,917 --> 00:38:46,875
UAP-related provisions
were negotiated out.
783
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,958
No independent review board,
no eminent domain provision.
784
00:38:52,125 --> 00:38:54,875
No extra whistleblower
protections.
785
00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:57,833
Were these
changes to the legislation
786
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,708
simply part of a routine
political process?
787
00:39:01,875 --> 00:39:05,000
Or might it be the latest
attempt by the government
788
00:39:05,208 --> 00:39:08,333
to suppress
information about UFOs?
789
00:39:08,458 --> 00:39:12,583
Either way, many UFO
researchers remain optimistic
790
00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:15,500
that we have entered an age
in which more whistleblowers
791
00:39:15,708 --> 00:39:18,833
will come forward
than ever before.
792
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,833
The fact that Congress
gutted this legislation,
793
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000
a lot of people in UFO
world see that as the end.
794
00:39:25,167 --> 00:39:27,083
It's just the beginning.
795
00:39:27,250 --> 00:39:28,337
And I think that
what's gonna happen
796
00:39:28,417 --> 00:39:30,208
over the next months and years
797
00:39:30,375 --> 00:39:31,667
is that additional
whistleblowers
798
00:39:31,875 --> 00:39:32,875
are gonna go public,
799
00:39:32,958 --> 00:39:34,500
and they're gonna
release documents
800
00:39:34,667 --> 00:39:36,125
and they're gonna release videos
801
00:39:36,292 --> 00:39:38,083
that are gonna be
very compelling.
802
00:39:38,292 --> 00:39:42,333
Much of the information
that we've gotten about UFOs
803
00:39:42,542 --> 00:39:44,250
has been from whistleblowers.
804
00:39:44,417 --> 00:39:47,417
People who, are insiders,
805
00:39:47,542 --> 00:39:49,250
they're in the military,
806
00:39:49,417 --> 00:39:53,167
and they think that people
should know these things.
807
00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:56,000
And so, they risk themselves
808
00:39:56,167 --> 00:39:58,292
by becoming whistleblowers.
809
00:39:58,417 --> 00:40:00,083
For the past eight decades,
810
00:40:00,208 --> 00:40:04,000
the heroes of this movement have
always been the whistleblowers,
811
00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:07,958
the insiders who decide
that the powers that be
812
00:40:08,125 --> 00:40:10,445
can't withhold this information
from the American people...
813
00:40:10,583 --> 00:40:12,625
and, indeed, the
human race... any longer.
814
00:40:12,792 --> 00:40:14,250
They're dedicated, ultimately,
815
00:40:14,417 --> 00:40:16,500
to what all of us are
seeking: the truth.
816
00:40:16,708 --> 00:40:19,000
It is the whistleblowers
817
00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:21,417
who will move us one step closer
818
00:40:21,583 --> 00:40:24,500
to answering the
extraterrestrial question.
819
00:40:24,667 --> 00:40:27,333
It's about time that
we're being told the truth
820
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:29,500
because we can handle the truth.
821
00:40:29,583 --> 00:40:31,542
We're told we can't, but we can.
822
00:40:31,708 --> 00:40:33,500
And so, I think we now live
823
00:40:33,708 --> 00:40:35,625
in one of the
most exciting times
824
00:40:35,792 --> 00:40:38,542
in the entire
history of our planet.
825
00:40:38,708 --> 00:40:41,348
In the wake of the
whistleblower hearing before Congress,
826
00:40:41,542 --> 00:40:45,542
could even more incredible
secrets soon be revealed?
827
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:48,792
Secrets involving
knowledge of a real
828
00:40:48,958 --> 00:40:52,000
extraterrestrial
presence on Earth?
829
00:40:52,167 --> 00:40:54,333
For now, the fact that UFOs
830
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:57,333
are being discussed in
the mainstream press,
831
00:40:57,542 --> 00:41:00,625
and Congress, represents
monumental progress.
832
00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:03,625
If we ever learn
the full truth about UFOs,
833
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:06,542
whistleblowers will
undoubtedly have played
834
00:41:06,708 --> 00:41:09,792
a key role in
getting that truth out.
835
00:41:09,958 --> 00:41:12,500
We'll look back at the history
of some of these people,
836
00:41:12,708 --> 00:41:14,833
and we'll name
the names and say,
837
00:41:15,042 --> 00:41:19,583
"These are the people who
enabled this to be done."
838
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:22,542
I see it as the Mount
Rushmore of ufology,
839
00:41:22,708 --> 00:41:25,167
that one day, we'll
have those faces
840
00:41:25,375 --> 00:41:27,375
carved in stone somewhere.
841
00:41:27,542 --> 00:41:30,042
Hynek, Ruppelt,
842
00:41:30,208 --> 00:41:33,375
Elizondo, Grusch
and many others.
843
00:41:33,583 --> 00:41:35,792
They're all heroes.
844
00:41:35,958 --> 00:41:39,167
What if the incredible
claims of UFO whistleblowers
845
00:41:39,333 --> 00:41:41,583
are all true?
846
00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:45,542
Could it be that first
contact with extraterrestrials
847
00:41:45,708 --> 00:41:49,792
does not lie in the near future
but has already happened?
848
00:41:49,958 --> 00:41:53,917
Perhaps, as more whistleblowers
continue to come forward, ,
849
00:41:54,083 --> 00:41:57,917
the full truth will
finally be revealed...
850
00:41:58,083 --> 00:42:03,167
and we will discover
that we are not alone,
851
00:42:03,292 --> 00:42:06,250
even on our own planet.
852
00:42:06,375 --> 00:42:08,567
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