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That was amazing. 12 00:00:47,875 --> 00:00:50,912 Alison: Luckily, the pesky pooch was found unharmed. 13 00:00:50,947 --> 00:00:54,157 Hopefully he learnt a valuable lesson, along with his owners. 14 00:00:54,192 --> 00:00:58,334 Alison Fan, 7 Nightly News. 15 00:00:58,368 --> 00:00:59,231 [Knock on door] 16 00:00:59,266 --> 00:01:00,301 Mum? 17 00:01:00,336 --> 00:01:01,647 Hey! Hey. 18 00:01:01,682 --> 00:01:03,304 What are you doing here? 19 00:01:03,339 --> 00:01:05,272 I finished early. Are we still on for dinner? 20 00:01:05,306 --> 00:01:08,309 Oh, you bet. Um, I'll just finish up here. 21 00:01:08,344 --> 00:01:09,793 Are you still getting wine? 22 00:01:09,828 --> 00:01:11,347 Yeah, sure. What sort? 23 00:01:11,381 --> 00:01:12,796 As long as I'm doing stories about lost dogs, 24 00:01:12,831 --> 00:01:14,384 any wine is good wine. 25 00:01:14,419 --> 00:01:17,422 I thought you might be back on Claremont. 26 00:01:17,456 --> 00:01:18,561 Why? 27 00:01:18,595 --> 00:01:20,252 I heard a rumor. 28 00:01:20,287 --> 00:01:21,771 It all seemed pretty hush-hush, 29 00:01:21,805 --> 00:01:24,325 but it sounded like there's a team back on it. 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,844 ♪♪ 31 00:01:25,878 --> 00:01:27,294 Huh. 32 00:01:27,328 --> 00:01:36,510 ♪♪ 33 00:01:36,544 --> 00:01:39,237 [Vehicle door opens] 34 00:01:39,271 --> 00:01:40,652 What the hell are you doing out here? 35 00:01:40,686 --> 00:01:42,792 Took me three days to find you. 36 00:01:42,826 --> 00:01:44,828 ♪♪ 37 00:01:44,863 --> 00:01:46,485 Why are you looking? 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,900 [Sighs] 39 00:01:47,935 --> 00:01:49,626 Cold Case Squad has reopened Claremont. 40 00:01:49,661 --> 00:01:50,869 There's no one from Macro. 41 00:01:50,903 --> 00:01:52,250 Apparently they're the new breed. 42 00:01:52,284 --> 00:01:54,252 They've all got forensic training. 43 00:01:54,286 --> 00:01:56,323 And why are you telling me? 44 00:01:56,357 --> 00:01:58,359 Don't you want in? 45 00:01:58,394 --> 00:02:00,741 I spent six years on Claremont. 46 00:02:00,775 --> 00:02:02,536 Look where it got me. 47 00:02:02,570 --> 00:02:04,572 Don't you wanna findthe guy?[Coo moos] 48 00:02:04,607 --> 00:02:07,748 I mean, are you really happy out here with all the cows? 49 00:02:07,782 --> 00:02:15,721 ♪♪ 50 00:02:15,756 --> 00:02:18,724 Sarah Spiers is still missing. 51 00:02:18,759 --> 00:02:20,278 I'm sorry. 52 00:02:20,312 --> 00:02:25,421 ♪♪ 53 00:02:25,455 --> 00:02:27,768 [Vehicle door opens, closes] 54 00:02:27,802 --> 00:02:30,943 [Engine starts] 55 00:02:30,978 --> 00:02:35,293 ♪♪ 56 00:02:35,327 --> 00:02:43,542 ♪♪ 57 00:02:43,577 --> 00:02:51,757 ♪♪ 58 00:02:51,792 --> 00:03:00,663 ♪♪ 59 00:03:00,697 --> 00:03:02,630 Hi. 60 00:03:02,665 --> 00:03:04,943 ♪♪ 61 00:03:04,977 --> 00:03:06,358 Mosman Park? 62 00:03:06,393 --> 00:03:08,809 [Engine revs] 63 00:03:08,843 --> 00:03:10,811 [Engine revving] 64 00:03:10,845 --> 00:03:19,302 ♪♪ 65 00:03:19,337 --> 00:03:21,891 [Women vocalizing] 66 00:03:21,925 --> 00:03:27,276 ♪♪ 67 00:03:27,310 --> 00:03:29,830 ♪♪ 68 00:03:29,864 --> 00:03:31,245 ♪♪ 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,522 ♪♪ 70 00:03:32,557 --> 00:03:37,769 ♪♪ 71 00:03:37,803 --> 00:03:42,981 ♪♪ 72 00:03:43,015 --> 00:03:48,366 ♪♪ 73 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,885 ♪♪ 74 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:56,788 ♪♪ 75 00:03:56,822 --> 00:04:03,622 ♪♪ 76 00:04:03,657 --> 00:04:10,491 ♪♪ 77 00:04:10,526 --> 00:04:11,941 Okay. 78 00:04:11,975 --> 00:04:14,702 ♪♪ 79 00:04:14,737 --> 00:04:17,049 - Who's this? - He insisted on being let in. 80 00:04:17,084 --> 00:04:18,810 Gavin Wyatt. He's driven in from... 81 00:04:18,844 --> 00:04:21,088 I worked on the original Macro team. 82 00:04:21,122 --> 00:04:22,779 I want to join you. 83 00:04:22,814 --> 00:04:25,092 I'm sorry.I know everything about this case. 84 00:04:25,126 --> 00:04:26,990 Yeah, that's the problem. 85 00:04:27,025 --> 00:04:30,960 We're starting with a clean slate, out of the public eye. 86 00:04:30,994 --> 00:04:33,997 Okay, well, maybe I can help short-cut stuff. 87 00:04:34,032 --> 00:04:36,379 Instead of having to re-read everything, I can tell you. 88 00:04:36,414 --> 00:04:38,795 I'm sorry. It's -- It's not gonna work. 89 00:04:39,762 --> 00:04:42,730 Alison Fan found me way out in the country. 90 00:04:42,765 --> 00:04:44,594 It's only a matter of time before she finds out 91 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:46,734 what you're doing. 92 00:04:46,769 --> 00:04:48,840 You're obviously doing this on the quiet. 93 00:04:48,874 --> 00:04:51,463 Do the bosses know you've reopened the case? 94 00:04:51,498 --> 00:04:53,672 Well, it's a cold case. We're allowed to reopen... 95 00:04:53,707 --> 00:04:55,122 Yeah, but I bet they don't know you've reopened 96 00:04:55,156 --> 00:04:57,814 this particular can of worms. 97 00:04:57,849 --> 00:05:00,334 The most famous unsolved murder case 98 00:05:00,369 --> 00:05:02,509 in West Australian history. 99 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:05,063 And I bet there'd be a few noses out of joint 100 00:05:05,097 --> 00:05:06,892 if the old Macro hierarchy finds out 101 00:05:06,927 --> 00:05:09,170 you're questioning their approach. 102 00:05:09,205 --> 00:05:13,105 ♪♪ 103 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:16,454 Maybe he can explain the fire poker. 104 00:05:16,488 --> 00:05:18,352 Dave: Why was Macro so sure that Lance Williams' poker 105 00:05:18,387 --> 00:05:19,871 was the murder weapon? 106 00:05:19,905 --> 00:05:21,631 Well, once I noticed it missing from Lance's flat, 107 00:05:21,666 --> 00:05:24,979 we bought an identical poker and sent it to London. 108 00:05:25,014 --> 00:05:26,774 A pathologist at the Royal College 109 00:05:26,809 --> 00:05:29,570 confirmed the poker fitted the wound to Ciara's skull. 110 00:05:29,605 --> 00:05:31,917 Yeah, he was wrong. 111 00:05:31,952 --> 00:05:34,679 We found Lance's poker. 112 00:05:34,713 --> 00:05:36,750 Where?Queensland. 113 00:05:36,784 --> 00:05:39,131 Well, Lance has never been to Queensland.Exactly. 114 00:05:39,166 --> 00:05:41,030 We tracked down the woman who sold the flat to Lance. 115 00:05:41,064 --> 00:05:43,964 She meant to leave the whole set behind with the fireplace, 116 00:05:43,998 --> 00:05:47,070 but somehow the poker was packed up by the removalists. 117 00:05:47,105 --> 00:05:49,141 You guys never followed this up? 118 00:05:49,176 --> 00:05:50,902 It fitted so perfectly. 119 00:05:50,936 --> 00:05:54,215 It made sense that she was... 120 00:05:54,250 --> 00:05:56,148 Alright, well, hang on a sec. 121 00:05:56,183 --> 00:05:59,980 What caused the wound to Ciara's head, then? 122 00:06:00,014 --> 00:06:01,740 Wasn't a wound. 123 00:06:01,775 --> 00:06:04,087 ♪♪ 124 00:06:04,122 --> 00:06:06,745 You know, everyone assumes Claremont was my worst case. 125 00:06:06,780 --> 00:06:09,576 My worst case was a Christmas Day murder. 126 00:06:09,610 --> 00:06:10,818 There was blood everywhere. 127 00:06:10,853 --> 00:06:12,682 Over presents, the manger. 128 00:06:12,717 --> 00:06:14,891 That indentation? 129 00:06:14,926 --> 00:06:16,721 She was hit over the back of the head. 130 00:06:16,755 --> 00:06:17,756 No, she wasn't. 131 00:06:17,791 --> 00:06:19,137 I was wrong. 132 00:06:19,171 --> 00:06:22,589 This is a Wormian bone. 133 00:06:22,623 --> 00:06:23,969 What's a Wormian bone? 134 00:06:24,004 --> 00:06:25,557 It's a naturally occurring skull formation 135 00:06:25,592 --> 00:06:27,732 that can look like a fracture. 136 00:06:27,766 --> 00:06:31,149 And no one noticed this until now? 137 00:06:31,183 --> 00:06:33,772 Well, once the poker was dismissed as a murder weapon, 138 00:06:33,807 --> 00:06:35,636 we asked the pathologist to review her findings. 139 00:06:35,671 --> 00:06:37,086 She called in an anthropologist. 140 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,226 And that means what exactly? 141 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:42,229 Lance Williams is not the Claremont serial killer. 142 00:06:42,263 --> 00:06:44,507 He has to be. 143 00:06:44,542 --> 00:06:47,199 Okay, he was out on the street every night, stalking girls. 144 00:06:47,234 --> 00:06:49,581 He fits every profile. 145 00:06:49,616 --> 00:06:51,894 A loner. The prostitutes. 146 00:06:51,928 --> 00:06:53,136 He failed the lie detector test. 147 00:06:53,171 --> 00:06:55,207 There is not one shred of evidence 148 00:06:55,242 --> 00:06:57,244 that connects Lance to the murders. 149 00:06:57,278 --> 00:07:00,765 There's no blood in his house, on his car, on his clothes. 150 00:07:00,799 --> 00:07:02,732 No fibers, no hair. 151 00:07:02,767 --> 00:07:04,251 Nikki: And none of his DNA was found 152 00:07:04,285 --> 00:07:05,632 anywhere at the crime scenes. 153 00:07:05,666 --> 00:07:07,841 Then why did the crimes stop? 154 00:07:07,875 --> 00:07:10,602 The second we started following Lance, they stopped. 155 00:07:10,637 --> 00:07:12,052 No more girls were taken. 156 00:07:12,086 --> 00:07:14,261 If I was a serial killer and I knew the police 157 00:07:14,295 --> 00:07:16,712 had a suspect... 158 00:07:16,746 --> 00:07:19,024 dumbest thing I can do is kill again. 159 00:07:19,059 --> 00:07:21,958 ♪♪ 160 00:07:21,993 --> 00:07:23,857 [Sighs] 161 00:07:23,891 --> 00:07:29,000 ♪♪ 162 00:07:29,034 --> 00:07:31,554 You still wanna work with us? 163 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:35,109 ♪♪ 164 00:07:35,144 --> 00:07:37,595 [Indistinct conversations] 165 00:07:37,629 --> 00:07:43,048 ♪♪ 166 00:07:43,083 --> 00:07:45,637 [Rock music plays] 167 00:07:45,672 --> 00:07:50,608 ♪♪ 168 00:07:50,642 --> 00:07:52,264 Are you sure you want back in 169 00:07:52,299 --> 00:07:54,163 if they're just gonna pour shit on everything we did? 170 00:07:54,197 --> 00:07:56,165 They're smart, Bobbi. 171 00:07:56,199 --> 00:07:59,996 Dave's DNA-trained, and Nikki's a fiber expert. 172 00:08:00,031 --> 00:08:01,964 They've thrown out the suspect book. 173 00:08:01,998 --> 00:08:03,655 It's all about the evidence. 174 00:08:03,690 --> 00:08:06,762 You're gonna solve Australia's biggest cold case 175 00:08:06,796 --> 00:08:08,660 with three detectives? 176 00:08:08,695 --> 00:08:11,180 ♪♪ 177 00:08:11,214 --> 00:08:13,941 Sorry. Now it sounds like I'mthe one pouring shit. 178 00:08:13,976 --> 00:08:15,184 [Breathes deeply] 179 00:08:15,218 --> 00:08:19,119 I hope you find him. I really do. 180 00:08:19,153 --> 00:08:21,535 You miss it, don't you? 181 00:08:21,570 --> 00:08:23,675 Unh-unh, unh-unh. 182 00:08:23,710 --> 00:08:25,884 I've moved on. Corporate's good. 183 00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:27,092 It is. 184 00:08:27,127 --> 00:08:30,544 ♪♪ 185 00:08:30,579 --> 00:08:32,373 Some things... 186 00:08:32,408 --> 00:08:35,273 ♪♪ 187 00:08:35,307 --> 00:08:38,828 ...maybe it's easier to leave them behind. 188 00:08:38,863 --> 00:08:41,969 Yeah. 189 00:08:42,004 --> 00:08:44,109 I'm gonna find him, Bobbi. 190 00:08:44,144 --> 00:08:46,008 Even if it kills me. 191 00:08:46,042 --> 00:08:49,045 ♪♪ 192 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,082 Make sure it doesn't. 193 00:08:51,116 --> 00:08:53,843 ♪♪ 194 00:08:53,878 --> 00:08:56,397 Ciara's missing thumbnail and middle finger. 195 00:08:56,432 --> 00:08:58,676 I remember. 196 00:08:58,710 --> 00:09:00,954 All that's left where the nail was are three red dots. 197 00:09:00,988 --> 00:09:02,714 Yeah, blood. 198 00:09:02,749 --> 00:09:05,130 So she's clawing at him so hard her nail has ripped off. 199 00:09:05,165 --> 00:09:06,994 You'd think she'd have to scrape some of his skin. 200 00:09:07,029 --> 00:09:09,928 Yeah, but the nail was never found at the crime scene. 201 00:09:09,963 --> 00:09:12,586 Caught in his clothes, fell off somewhere else? 202 00:09:14,795 --> 00:09:18,074 Was any of the remaining nail tested? 203 00:09:18,109 --> 00:09:20,249 Yes, we tested everything, and I mean everything. 204 00:09:20,283 --> 00:09:22,320 Every jar, every scrap of nail. 205 00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:25,772 Some went to New Zealand, some to the FBI. 206 00:09:25,806 --> 00:09:27,256 We tested every single one of these. 207 00:09:27,290 --> 00:09:29,776 - There's nothing else. - What about AJM40? 208 00:09:29,810 --> 00:09:32,157 It doesn't appear on any of the test results. 209 00:09:32,192 --> 00:09:35,367 AJM...40. 210 00:09:35,402 --> 00:09:37,784 Uh, AJM40. 211 00:09:37,818 --> 00:09:40,096 Let's see here. 212 00:09:40,131 --> 00:09:42,754 Aha! That's why. 213 00:09:42,789 --> 00:09:44,894 "Debris only. Not suitable for analysis." 214 00:09:44,929 --> 00:09:49,934 ♪♪ 215 00:09:49,968 --> 00:09:51,383 Why not? 216 00:09:51,418 --> 00:09:53,972 Well, because at the time, there wasn't enough 217 00:09:54,007 --> 00:09:56,181 in there to test. 218 00:09:56,216 --> 00:09:59,219 I think there might be enough now. 219 00:09:59,253 --> 00:10:02,671 For his services to Little Athletics, 220 00:10:02,705 --> 00:10:04,258 Bradley Edwards. 221 00:10:04,293 --> 00:10:05,777 [Applause]Woman: Well done. 222 00:10:05,812 --> 00:10:07,434 Man: You did a good job. 223 00:10:07,468 --> 00:10:12,957 ♪♪ 224 00:10:12,991 --> 00:10:14,752 [Camera shutters clicking] 225 00:10:14,786 --> 00:10:21,655 ♪♪ 226 00:10:21,690 --> 00:10:23,243 London lab called. It worked. 227 00:10:23,277 --> 00:10:24,347 [Fax machine beeps] 228 00:10:24,382 --> 00:10:26,073 Fax coming through now. 229 00:10:26,108 --> 00:10:30,733 ♪♪ 230 00:10:30,768 --> 00:10:33,046 They extracted two DNA sets. 231 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,496 The first belonged to Ciara... 232 00:10:35,531 --> 00:10:37,222 the other to an unknown male. 233 00:10:37,257 --> 00:10:38,948 ♪♪ 234 00:10:38,983 --> 00:10:41,295 [Applause] 235 00:10:41,330 --> 00:10:42,365 ♪♪ 236 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,126 [Camera shutter clicks] 237 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,095 We've got his DNA. We've got the Claremont killer's DNA. 238 00:10:48,130 --> 00:10:50,511 ♪♪ 239 00:10:50,546 --> 00:10:51,823 [Camera shutter clicking] 240 00:10:51,858 --> 00:10:53,825 [Screaming] 241 00:10:53,860 --> 00:10:55,793 ♪♪ 242 00:10:55,827 --> 00:10:58,865 [Man speaking indistinctly on TV] 243 00:10:58,899 --> 00:11:01,108 Can we have a word with Lance, please? 244 00:11:01,143 --> 00:11:02,903 Man on TV: ...winning a brand-new car. 245 00:11:02,938 --> 00:11:04,802 When is this gonna stop? 246 00:11:04,836 --> 00:11:06,942 He's only just out of hospital. 247 00:11:06,976 --> 00:11:09,185 Depression, anxiety. 248 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:11,498 Huh! No wonder. 249 00:11:11,532 --> 00:11:14,018 Mr. Williams. 250 00:11:14,052 --> 00:11:17,711 Uh, we wanted to tell you officially that you're no longer 251 00:11:17,746 --> 00:11:20,231 a person of interest in the Claremont matter. 252 00:11:23,544 --> 00:11:25,270 What does that mean? 253 00:11:25,305 --> 00:11:28,239 You won't be hearing from us anymore. 254 00:11:34,555 --> 00:11:36,903 I'm sorry. 255 00:11:36,937 --> 00:11:38,525 [Chime] Roger. 256 00:11:41,045 --> 00:11:43,323 You were only doing your job. 257 00:11:46,533 --> 00:11:47,845 Question four. 258 00:11:47,879 --> 00:11:50,537 [Speaking indistinctly] 259 00:11:50,571 --> 00:11:52,263 [Chime] Jeffrey. 260 00:11:52,297 --> 00:11:54,023 Jeffrey: Pacific Ocean. 261 00:11:54,058 --> 00:11:55,507 [Buzzer] No. 262 00:11:55,542 --> 00:11:56,854 The correct answer is the Indian Ocean. 263 00:11:56,888 --> 00:11:58,338 Question five. 264 00:11:58,372 --> 00:11:59,960 In which country would you find the Sphinx? 265 00:11:59,995 --> 00:12:01,306 [Chime] 266 00:12:01,341 --> 00:12:04,793 The DNA isn't Lance Williams'. 267 00:12:04,827 --> 00:12:06,484 It's from the Karrakatta rapist. 268 00:12:06,518 --> 00:12:08,244 What? 269 00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:10,764 We tested the DNA against all the original major suspects -- 270 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:12,455 the mayor, Steve Ross. 271 00:12:12,490 --> 00:12:13,802 Nothing. 272 00:12:13,836 --> 00:12:15,527 And then I remembered your case. 273 00:12:15,562 --> 00:12:17,081 Lisa. Karrakatta. 274 00:12:17,115 --> 00:12:18,289 And it matched? 275 00:12:18,323 --> 00:12:20,843 Well, it matched Unknown Male #4. 276 00:12:20,878 --> 00:12:22,293 [Sighs] 277 00:12:22,327 --> 00:12:24,364 You were right, Bobbi -- Lisa was raped by the man 278 00:12:24,398 --> 00:12:26,953 who went on to become the Claremont serial killer.Oh. 279 00:12:26,987 --> 00:12:29,818 I need you to come back in. 280 00:12:29,852 --> 00:12:31,302 Come on. Just to talk to them, okay? 281 00:12:31,336 --> 00:12:32,544 You know this case backwards. 282 00:12:32,579 --> 00:12:34,305 You can tell them better than me. 283 00:12:34,339 --> 00:12:36,134 No way. I'm out. I told you. 284 00:12:36,169 --> 00:12:38,136 This time, we are doing everything by the book, 285 00:12:38,171 --> 00:12:40,035 and when we catch this guy, 286 00:12:40,069 --> 00:12:41,484 we're gonna need you as a witness to present 287 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:44,039 the statement you took from Lisa in '96. 288 00:12:47,352 --> 00:12:49,941 Her name was Lisa Todd. She was 17. 289 00:12:49,976 --> 00:12:51,287 A year before Sarah went missing, 290 00:12:51,322 --> 00:12:53,048 she was partying in Claremont. 291 00:12:53,082 --> 00:12:55,982 On her way home, she was grabbed from Rowe Park. 292 00:12:56,016 --> 00:12:59,502 She was taken to Karrakatta Cemetery and raped. 293 00:12:59,537 --> 00:13:02,471 But the rape kit didn't match anyone on file at the time. 294 00:13:02,505 --> 00:13:04,128 So this Unknown Male #4 -- 295 00:13:04,162 --> 00:13:06,164 Macro was onto him as a suspect for Claremont. 296 00:13:06,199 --> 00:13:08,546 - What happened? - Well, Lisa was a blitz attack. 297 00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:12,515 It was thought all three girls willingly got into vehicles. 298 00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:15,242 Bobbi: These are the shorts she was wearing. 299 00:13:15,277 --> 00:13:18,176 Her T-shirt, underwear, shoes. 300 00:13:18,211 --> 00:13:21,007 And this is the cord he used to tie her. 301 00:13:21,041 --> 00:13:23,388 But we could never find any evidence the Claremont killer 302 00:13:23,423 --> 00:13:26,875 tied up any of the three girls, or attacked them from behind. 303 00:13:26,909 --> 00:13:28,635 ♪♪ 304 00:13:28,669 --> 00:13:30,913 What? 305 00:13:30,948 --> 00:13:33,951 We've gone back over Jane's postmortem photographs. 306 00:13:33,985 --> 00:13:35,331 There's a mark on her wrist 307 00:13:35,366 --> 00:13:36,988 that suggests she might have been tied up. 308 00:13:37,023 --> 00:13:38,990 But if the girls got into the vehicle voluntarily, 309 00:13:39,025 --> 00:13:40,923 when did he tie them? How would that work? 310 00:13:40,958 --> 00:13:42,925 We found other witnesses. 311 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,651 Girls who accepted lifts around the same time 312 00:13:44,685 --> 00:13:45,686 and had close calls. 313 00:13:45,721 --> 00:13:47,930 This one, Katrina Jones. 314 00:13:47,965 --> 00:13:49,967 Late 1995. She'd been at a wedding. 315 00:13:50,001 --> 00:13:52,417 At 2:30 in the morning, she was trying to get a lift. 316 00:13:52,452 --> 00:13:53,660 Bradley: You okay? 317 00:13:53,694 --> 00:13:55,869 No. As a matter of fact, I'm not. 318 00:13:55,904 --> 00:13:58,009 He offered her a lift. She said he seemed nice. 319 00:13:58,044 --> 00:13:59,390 Thanks so much. 320 00:13:59,424 --> 00:14:01,047 Nikki: She asked what he did for a living. 321 00:14:01,081 --> 00:14:03,290 He said he was a Telstra worker, like her brother. 322 00:14:03,325 --> 00:14:04,671 Dave: That's when things went wrong. 323 00:14:04,705 --> 00:14:06,190 Nikki: Yeah, she said she picked up vibes. 324 00:14:06,224 --> 00:14:07,881 She must have sensed something was wrong 325 00:14:07,916 --> 00:14:09,262 because she got him to drop her off five houses 326 00:14:09,296 --> 00:14:11,264 back from her car. 327 00:14:11,298 --> 00:14:14,923 Next minute, he was behind her. 328 00:14:14,957 --> 00:14:16,614 [Gasping] 329 00:14:16,648 --> 00:14:19,928 [Screaming] 330 00:14:19,962 --> 00:14:22,482 It's exactly what happened to Lisa. 331 00:14:22,516 --> 00:14:25,071 She'd already told him she was a blue belt in tae kwon do. 332 00:14:25,105 --> 00:14:26,313 He backed off. 333 00:14:26,348 --> 00:14:28,177 She tried to get his number plate, 334 00:14:28,212 --> 00:14:29,627 but all she had to write with was lipstick, so -- 335 00:14:29,661 --> 00:14:31,491 - So when was this? - Late '95. 336 00:14:31,525 --> 00:14:34,287 So after Karrakatta, but before Sarah. 337 00:14:34,321 --> 00:14:36,013 So that's what happened to Sarah. 338 00:14:36,047 --> 00:14:38,394 He actually drove her to Mosman Park and let her out. 339 00:14:38,429 --> 00:14:40,569 Then he came up behind her. 340 00:14:40,603 --> 00:14:41,915 So these witnesses... 341 00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:43,641 they all got into a Telstra vehicle? 342 00:14:43,675 --> 00:14:46,092 Or a white vehicle consistent with that. 343 00:14:46,126 --> 00:14:48,059 We're calling them the Telstra Living Witnesses. 344 00:14:48,094 --> 00:14:51,373 But after Karrakatta, we asked Telstra for a list of drivers. 345 00:14:51,407 --> 00:14:52,995 We checked every single one. 346 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:55,066 In '95, Telstra logos 347 00:14:55,101 --> 00:14:57,206 were being changed over from the old Telecom. 348 00:14:57,241 --> 00:14:59,657 Macro asked for Telstra drivers. That's what you got. 349 00:14:59,691 --> 00:15:01,659 If the killer was still driving a Telecom vehicle, 350 00:15:01,693 --> 00:15:03,661 - he missed the net. - [Scoffs] 351 00:15:03,695 --> 00:15:05,180 ♪♪ 352 00:15:05,214 --> 00:15:08,252 That is... 353 00:15:08,286 --> 00:15:09,736 unbelievable. 354 00:15:09,770 --> 00:15:13,636 ♪♪ 355 00:15:13,671 --> 00:15:16,501 But the problem then is the problem now. 356 00:15:16,536 --> 00:15:18,710 The Karrakatta rape was unsolved. 357 00:15:18,745 --> 00:15:21,196 How do we identify Unknown Male #4? 358 00:15:21,230 --> 00:15:23,612 Well, for starters, we're asking for a list of Telecom drivers 359 00:15:23,646 --> 00:15:25,579 from the '90s, but that could take some time. 360 00:15:25,614 --> 00:15:27,409 So we're also running his sample 361 00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:29,583 against every single piece of DNA 362 00:15:29,618 --> 00:15:31,206 that Macro ever collected. 363 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,071 We DNA-tested 9,000 local men. 364 00:15:34,105 --> 00:15:37,005 Plus over 2,000 taxi drivers and their cars. 365 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:39,455 Yeah, so don't hold your breath. 366 00:15:39,490 --> 00:15:41,561 ♪♪ 367 00:15:41,595 --> 00:15:44,495 Gavin. Ah. 368 00:15:44,529 --> 00:15:46,566 What happened to that update you promised me? 369 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,774 We're still working on it. 370 00:15:47,808 --> 00:15:50,466 Do you have anything? 371 00:15:50,501 --> 00:15:52,744 Come on, Gav. I could run with this any time. 372 00:15:52,779 --> 00:15:55,092 "Cold Case Unit secretly reopens Claremont." 373 00:15:55,126 --> 00:15:56,783 It's a great story for me. 374 00:15:56,817 --> 00:15:58,681 It's one night. 375 00:15:58,716 --> 00:16:01,098 If you hold off, I'll give you the biggest story of the year. 376 00:16:01,132 --> 00:16:03,652 When? Gav? 377 00:16:03,686 --> 00:16:06,241 You know, Sarah would have been 38 this year, 378 00:16:06,275 --> 00:16:09,485 and that her dad's still shearing 10 hours a day... 379 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:10,831 so he never has to stop 380 00:16:10,866 --> 00:16:13,006 and think about his missing daughter. 381 00:16:14,766 --> 00:16:22,395 ♪♪ 382 00:16:22,429 --> 00:16:30,127 ♪♪ 383 00:16:30,161 --> 00:16:37,686 ♪♪ 384 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,481 Don. Carol. 385 00:16:39,515 --> 00:16:43,036 [Sheep bleating] 386 00:16:45,694 --> 00:16:46,764 Sorry. 387 00:16:46,798 --> 00:16:49,456 It's not you. 388 00:16:49,491 --> 00:16:52,459 We've got his DNA. 389 00:16:52,494 --> 00:16:55,221 We've matched him to a precursor crime. 390 00:16:55,255 --> 00:16:58,293 Now we've just gotta match his DNA with a name. 391 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:04,299 You know what I don't get? 392 00:17:04,333 --> 00:17:07,612 Someone out there knows who it is. 393 00:17:07,647 --> 00:17:09,407 Someone who works with him. 394 00:17:09,442 --> 00:17:11,685 Someone who gave birth to him. 395 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,586 ♪♪ 396 00:17:15,620 --> 00:17:17,450 Do they know? 397 00:17:17,484 --> 00:17:23,628 ♪♪ 398 00:17:23,663 --> 00:17:29,772 ♪♪ 399 00:17:29,807 --> 00:17:32,637 [Dialing] 400 00:17:32,672 --> 00:17:35,261 ♪♪ 401 00:17:35,295 --> 00:17:39,196 [Line ringing] 402 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:40,542 Alison: Hello? 403 00:17:40,576 --> 00:17:43,855 Alison. Got a pen and paper? 404 00:17:43,890 --> 00:17:47,411 It's been nearly 20 years since Sarah Spiers went missing -- 405 00:17:47,445 --> 00:17:50,345 the first victim of the Claremont serial killer. 406 00:17:50,379 --> 00:17:51,587 Or wasshe? 407 00:17:51,622 --> 00:17:53,175 In a sensational breakthrough, 408 00:17:53,210 --> 00:17:54,728 sources close to police have revealed 409 00:17:54,763 --> 00:17:57,110 they have forensic evidence linking the man 410 00:17:57,145 --> 00:18:00,355 who murdered Ciara Glennon to an earlier victim. 411 00:18:00,389 --> 00:18:03,185 Her identity remains a closely guarded secret. 412 00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:05,498 If they've got the forensic evidence, 413 00:18:05,532 --> 00:18:07,327 why can't they just arrest him? ...from the streets of Claremont 414 00:18:07,362 --> 00:18:09,778 and brutally raped in Karrakatta Cemetery 415 00:18:09,812 --> 00:18:11,952 managed to escape. 416 00:18:11,987 --> 00:18:14,507 They now believe there may have been earlier attacks, 417 00:18:14,541 --> 00:18:16,888 what they're calling "precursor crimes." 418 00:18:16,923 --> 00:18:18,787 They're looking for young women who were assaulted 419 00:18:18,821 --> 00:18:20,927 in the Claremont area before Sarah -- 420 00:18:20,961 --> 00:18:22,653 [Remote clicks] 421 00:18:22,687 --> 00:18:25,897 I can give Maddie a lift if you like. 422 00:18:25,932 --> 00:18:28,279 Ah, yes. Yeah, okay. 423 00:18:28,314 --> 00:18:30,937 Oh, have you thought more about her 21st? 424 00:18:30,971 --> 00:18:34,423 Well, thinking about it's one thing, but how do we pay for it? 425 00:18:34,458 --> 00:18:36,667 I don't understand why we're always so short. 426 00:18:36,701 --> 00:18:38,807 You know, we're both working. I'm not spending it on anything. 427 00:18:38,841 --> 00:18:40,498 So where's it all going? 428 00:18:40,533 --> 00:18:41,913 [Clears throat] 429 00:18:41,948 --> 00:18:44,295 Hey, Dad, can I grab a lift to uni today? 430 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:45,538 Yeah, sure, but I'm going now. 431 00:18:45,572 --> 00:18:46,780 - Yeah, I'm ready. - Okay. 432 00:18:46,815 --> 00:18:48,230 See ya, Mum. 433 00:18:48,265 --> 00:18:50,853 Bye. 434 00:18:50,888 --> 00:18:52,338 Brad? 435 00:18:52,372 --> 00:18:55,341 [Door opens]We need to talk about this. 436 00:18:55,375 --> 00:18:56,859 ♪♪ 437 00:18:56,894 --> 00:18:59,241 ♪♪ 438 00:18:59,276 --> 00:19:07,974 ♪♪ 439 00:19:08,008 --> 00:19:10,425 It's in all the papers, all over the TV. 440 00:19:10,459 --> 00:19:11,874 You've completely blown our cover. 441 00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:13,807 Someone needed to put a rocket under the case. 442 00:19:13,842 --> 00:19:15,740 This will get us blasted out of the job. 443 00:19:15,775 --> 00:19:17,811 But now we're actually getting calls. 444 00:19:17,846 --> 00:19:21,367 Other women who were picked up in Claremont at the same time. 445 00:19:21,401 --> 00:19:22,851 Crime Stoppers is getting hammered. 446 00:19:22,885 --> 00:19:24,370 Yeah, and who's gonna process all the leads 447 00:19:24,404 --> 00:19:27,580 if we get fired, hmm? 448 00:19:27,614 --> 00:19:29,616 [Telephone rings] 449 00:19:35,657 --> 00:19:36,934 Santos. 450 00:19:36,968 --> 00:19:38,453 Yep. 451 00:19:38,487 --> 00:19:40,040 Yep, he's here. 452 00:19:40,075 --> 00:19:41,594 It's the boss. 453 00:19:43,492 --> 00:19:45,391 Medcalf. 454 00:19:45,425 --> 00:19:48,256 Yes, sir. 455 00:19:48,290 --> 00:19:50,430 No, I understand. 456 00:19:50,465 --> 00:19:51,845 Yes. 457 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,504 Yes, I should have consulted you. 458 00:19:55,539 --> 00:19:57,265 Okay. 459 00:20:01,303 --> 00:20:03,063 Are we fired? 460 00:20:03,098 --> 00:20:05,342 No. 461 00:20:05,376 --> 00:20:07,965 No, he's, uh -- He's giving us more people. 462 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:12,038 [Chuckles] 463 00:20:12,072 --> 00:20:14,730 [Suspenseful music plays] 464 00:20:14,765 --> 00:20:18,665 ♪♪ 465 00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:25,396 ♪♪ 466 00:20:25,431 --> 00:20:28,986 ♪♪ 467 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:37,650 ♪♪ 468 00:20:37,684 --> 00:20:38,823 [No audio] 469 00:20:38,858 --> 00:20:44,277 ♪♪ 470 00:20:44,312 --> 00:20:49,593 ♪♪ 471 00:20:49,627 --> 00:20:59,292 ♪♪ 472 00:20:59,327 --> 00:21:02,019 [Muffled music playing] 473 00:21:02,053 --> 00:21:06,506 ♪♪ 474 00:21:06,541 --> 00:21:08,128 [Volume increases] 475 00:21:08,163 --> 00:21:11,856 [Muffled talking] 476 00:21:11,891 --> 00:21:18,587 ♪♪ 477 00:21:18,622 --> 00:21:22,419 [Woman grunts and groans on recording] 478 00:21:22,453 --> 00:21:28,942 ♪♪ 479 00:21:28,977 --> 00:21:31,082 [Woman groans on recording] 480 00:21:31,117 --> 00:21:37,054 ♪♪ 481 00:21:37,088 --> 00:21:40,126 ♪♪ 482 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,510 ♪♪ 483 00:21:44,544 --> 00:21:54,071 ♪♪ 484 00:21:54,105 --> 00:21:56,384 ♪♪ 485 00:21:56,418 --> 00:21:59,594 Thanks. Thanks, Julie. 486 00:21:59,628 --> 00:22:01,837 We are getting dozens of calls about Claremont. 487 00:22:01,872 --> 00:22:03,805 - From who? - Women who accepted lifts 488 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:05,013 from white cars in the '90s 489 00:22:05,047 --> 00:22:06,946 and never came forward.Why not? 490 00:22:06,980 --> 00:22:08,775 With all the Lance Williams talk in the papers, 491 00:22:08,810 --> 00:22:10,432 they thought you already had the guy. 492 00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:13,055 But, God, it's been so long now, no one can ID him. 493 00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:14,850 Any news from the DNA tests? 494 00:22:14,885 --> 00:22:16,852 We've checked the sample against every single piece of DNA 495 00:22:16,887 --> 00:22:19,165 on the West Australian database -- nothing. 496 00:22:19,199 --> 00:22:21,616 We have to wait for the international 497 00:22:21,650 --> 00:22:23,031 and national requests now. 498 00:22:23,065 --> 00:22:25,516 That'll take months. How can we be so close? 499 00:22:25,551 --> 00:22:26,793 We've got his DNA, for God's sake. 500 00:22:26,828 --> 00:22:28,761 Is there anything else we can do? 501 00:22:28,795 --> 00:22:32,627 ♪♪ 502 00:22:32,661 --> 00:22:35,008 We want to test Jane's hair for fibers. 503 00:22:35,043 --> 00:22:37,528 Jane had been to the hairdresser the morning before her death, 504 00:22:37,563 --> 00:22:39,599 so any fibers in her hair can be narrowed down 505 00:22:39,634 --> 00:22:41,187 to having got there after that. 506 00:22:41,221 --> 00:22:42,982 You're hoping to find something from the perpetrator? 507 00:22:43,016 --> 00:22:44,432 Well, it's a long shot, we know, 508 00:22:44,466 --> 00:22:45,812 but the paperwork says you collected 509 00:22:45,847 --> 00:22:48,436 Jane's entire hair mass during the postmortem? 510 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:50,507 We've searched Trace. It's not there, so... 511 00:22:50,541 --> 00:22:54,511 Because I sent it to Toxicology, not Trace. 512 00:22:54,545 --> 00:22:56,789 At the time, I wanted to test for drugs. 513 00:22:56,823 --> 00:22:58,584 I thought maybe she'd been administered something 514 00:22:58,618 --> 00:22:59,964 to knock her out. 515 00:22:59,999 --> 00:23:03,209 - So it's still at Tox? - As far as I know. 516 00:23:03,243 --> 00:23:05,245 ♪♪ 517 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,834 Right, what am I looking at?Isn't it obvious? 518 00:23:07,869 --> 00:23:09,871 To someone with a PhD in fibers, sure. 519 00:23:09,905 --> 00:23:11,459 Let's just pretend that's not me. 520 00:23:11,493 --> 00:23:15,083 Okay. So this is a fiber we found in Jane's hair. 521 00:23:15,117 --> 00:23:17,879 The Forensic guys managed to extract 20 of these. 522 00:23:17,913 --> 00:23:19,156 Do we know what they are? 523 00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:20,985 Well, some, we have no idea. 524 00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:22,573 Fibers you can't match with anything. 525 00:23:22,608 --> 00:23:25,058 But this one, this has a name -- Blue Graphite. 526 00:23:25,093 --> 00:23:27,923 And it matches the upholstery of a -- 527 00:23:27,958 --> 00:23:29,546 cheers -- 528 00:23:29,580 --> 00:23:32,031 Holden Commodore V6 Series 1 station wagon. 529 00:23:32,065 --> 00:23:33,688 Why do I know that vehicle? 530 00:23:33,722 --> 00:23:35,034 Because it's the vehicle the Burger Boys described 531 00:23:35,068 --> 00:23:36,691 seeing the night Ciara was taken. 532 00:23:36,725 --> 00:23:38,589 Man: Check her out.[Laughter] 533 00:23:38,624 --> 00:23:40,557 It was a white, late-model Series 1 534 00:23:40,591 --> 00:23:42,144 VS Holden station wagon. 535 00:23:42,179 --> 00:23:44,250 Did Macro look for Holden station wagons at the time? 536 00:23:44,284 --> 00:23:45,803 Yep, but that search was shelved 537 00:23:45,838 --> 00:23:47,771 once we started focusing on Lance. 538 00:23:47,805 --> 00:23:49,773 He drove a Toyota Camry. 539 00:23:49,807 --> 00:23:51,844 ♪♪ 540 00:23:51,878 --> 00:23:53,570 So is this it? One fiber? 541 00:23:53,604 --> 00:23:55,744 No. Other fibers collected match a different carpet 542 00:23:55,779 --> 00:23:57,919 made especially for the cargo area of Holdens. 543 00:23:57,953 --> 00:24:00,024 Suggesting Jane was in the cargo area 544 00:24:00,059 --> 00:24:02,475 sometime after her visit to the hairdresser. 545 00:24:02,510 --> 00:24:04,960 Yeah, and there's more. Fibers found on Ciara 546 00:24:04,995 --> 00:24:08,688 match the carpet from the same make of car. 547 00:24:08,723 --> 00:24:11,311 We're going car hunting, boys and girls. 548 00:24:11,346 --> 00:24:20,631 ♪♪ 549 00:24:20,666 --> 00:24:29,813 ♪♪ 550 00:24:29,847 --> 00:24:35,715 ♪♪ 551 00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:37,717 Bradley: I gotta tell you something. 552 00:24:37,752 --> 00:24:39,236 You getting cold feet about the wedding? 553 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:40,720 [Chuckles] 554 00:24:40,755 --> 00:24:42,688 I got a criminal record. 555 00:24:42,722 --> 00:24:44,206 ♪♪ 556 00:24:44,241 --> 00:24:45,587 Wh-- 557 00:24:45,622 --> 00:24:49,315 After my first wife cheated on me, 558 00:24:49,349 --> 00:24:52,076 I had... 559 00:24:52,111 --> 00:24:53,526 I just -- I couldn't handle it. 560 00:24:53,561 --> 00:24:55,632 I had a brain snap. 561 00:24:55,666 --> 00:24:56,978 What happened? 562 00:24:57,012 --> 00:24:58,738 There was this woman at work, and... 563 00:24:58,773 --> 00:25:00,706 I took it out on her. 564 00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:02,293 Sexually? 565 00:25:02,328 --> 00:25:03,950 No, no, it was nothing like that. 566 00:25:03,985 --> 00:25:06,850 They called it a common assault. It was stupid. 567 00:25:06,884 --> 00:25:08,541 I don't know what came over me. 568 00:25:08,576 --> 00:25:10,854 It was like I just snapped, you know? 569 00:25:10,888 --> 00:25:11,993 [Sobs] 570 00:25:12,027 --> 00:25:15,997 It was so dumb. It was so dumb. 571 00:25:16,031 --> 00:25:19,725 I just wanted you to know before we got married. 572 00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:21,002 [Sniffles] 573 00:25:21,036 --> 00:25:23,763 Hey. Hey! 574 00:25:23,798 --> 00:25:25,593 I just feel so ashamed. 575 00:25:25,627 --> 00:25:27,042 [Crying] 576 00:25:27,077 --> 00:25:30,701 Hey. Hey, it's okay. It's alright. 577 00:25:30,736 --> 00:25:33,635 I just wanted to be honest with you. 578 00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:35,948 Okay. It's alright. 579 00:25:35,982 --> 00:25:44,750 ♪♪ 580 00:25:44,784 --> 00:25:46,199 ♪♪ 581 00:25:46,234 --> 00:25:48,788 We went through car lots, wrecking yards. 582 00:25:48,823 --> 00:25:51,411 Took apart every '96 V6 Commodore we could find. 583 00:25:51,446 --> 00:25:53,034 Nothing? 584 00:25:53,068 --> 00:25:54,794 And nothing from trying to check the workers 585 00:25:54,829 --> 00:25:57,417 who drove Telecom cars. They no longer have the records. 586 00:25:57,452 --> 00:25:59,419 It has been 20 years. 587 00:25:59,454 --> 00:26:02,319 Yeah. 588 00:26:02,353 --> 00:26:05,322 Hey, are you seeing anyone? 589 00:26:05,356 --> 00:26:08,394 What? No. 590 00:26:08,428 --> 00:26:10,327 Pick up some random for the fun of it? 591 00:26:10,361 --> 00:26:15,021 No, just try to have some sort of life outside this case. 592 00:26:15,953 --> 00:26:18,922 Did I tell you we didn't get a DNA match from interstate? 593 00:26:18,956 --> 00:26:21,131 It's amazing. This guy just does not have a criminal record. 594 00:26:21,165 --> 00:26:23,305 He has to. No one starts with rape and murder. 595 00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:24,859 There has to be some sort of apprenticeship. 596 00:26:24,893 --> 00:26:27,171 Something even before Karrakatta. 597 00:26:27,206 --> 00:26:29,415 ♪♪ 598 00:26:29,449 --> 00:26:32,176 What? 599 00:26:32,211 --> 00:26:34,109 You just gave me an idea. 600 00:26:34,144 --> 00:26:38,182 ♪♪ 601 00:26:38,217 --> 00:26:41,220 Hey, come here. Come here. 602 00:26:41,254 --> 00:26:44,361 What if this guy was involved in a minor crime and pled guilty? 603 00:26:44,395 --> 00:26:47,191 It's possible his DNA was collected but never tested. 604 00:26:47,226 --> 00:26:49,124 'Cause the police didn't have to prove his guilt. 605 00:26:49,159 --> 00:26:51,817 Exactly. We need to go back through the old files. 606 00:26:51,851 --> 00:26:54,060 Any sexual offense pre-1995. 607 00:26:54,095 --> 00:26:56,442 Okay. 608 00:26:56,476 --> 00:27:03,967 ♪♪ 609 00:27:04,001 --> 00:27:05,416 [Sighs] 610 00:27:05,451 --> 00:27:07,211 [Sighs] 611 00:27:07,246 --> 00:27:09,420 This box shouldn't even be here. 612 00:27:09,455 --> 00:27:13,424 ♪♪ 613 00:27:13,459 --> 00:27:15,081 This isn't even a sex crime. 614 00:27:15,116 --> 00:27:18,050 It's some kind of standover operation in the '90s. 615 00:27:18,084 --> 00:27:19,983 ♪♪ 616 00:27:20,017 --> 00:27:21,467 What's Huntingdale? 617 00:27:21,501 --> 00:27:26,334 ♪♪ 618 00:27:26,368 --> 00:27:29,233 Uh... 619 00:27:29,268 --> 00:27:32,409 Looks like a series of break-ins in and around Huntingdale. 620 00:27:32,443 --> 00:27:34,929 Women's underwear being stolen off the line. 621 00:27:34,963 --> 00:27:37,863 Frequent sightings of a prowler breaking into houses. 622 00:27:37,897 --> 00:27:39,381 Yeah, that was found at one of the assaults. 623 00:27:39,416 --> 00:27:44,248 A...stocking used as a gag and bindings. 624 00:27:44,283 --> 00:27:45,905 The attacker brought those with him? 625 00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:48,839 Mm. 626 00:27:48,874 --> 00:27:51,359 Mostly rapists don't come with restraints. 627 00:27:51,393 --> 00:27:53,464 ♪♪ 628 00:27:53,499 --> 00:27:55,846 The Karrakatta rapist did. 629 00:27:55,881 --> 00:28:02,335 ♪♪ 630 00:28:02,370 --> 00:28:08,514 ♪♪ 631 00:28:08,548 --> 00:28:14,831 ♪♪ 632 00:28:14,865 --> 00:28:18,904 That's it. That's what he was wearing. 633 00:28:18,938 --> 00:28:21,803 Dave: This was, uh, February 1988? 634 00:28:21,838 --> 00:28:23,805 Valentine's Day. 635 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,049 Do you remember what he looked like? 636 00:28:26,083 --> 00:28:29,466 [Screams]No! No! 637 00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:31,882 No, I didn't see his face. 638 00:28:31,917 --> 00:28:34,264 Uh, Gavin? 639 00:28:34,298 --> 00:28:35,886 Excuse me. 640 00:28:38,509 --> 00:28:40,580 We just had a call from PathWest. 641 00:28:40,615 --> 00:28:42,893 They got a hit?Semen on the kimono. 642 00:28:42,928 --> 00:28:44,101 It matches both the Karrakatta rapist 643 00:28:44,136 --> 00:28:46,103 and Ciara's left thumbnail. 644 00:29:01,325 --> 00:29:03,880 Is there anything else you can tell us about your attacker? 645 00:29:03,914 --> 00:29:07,021 Anything that might help identify him? 646 00:29:07,055 --> 00:29:09,333 Well, at the time, I had no idea who the hell he was, 647 00:29:09,368 --> 00:29:13,821 but afterwards, when I started to tell my story to people, 648 00:29:13,855 --> 00:29:15,477 everyone started telling their own story 649 00:29:15,512 --> 00:29:18,584 about this guy being around the neighborhood at the time. 650 00:29:18,618 --> 00:29:19,999 Other sexual assaults? 651 00:29:20,034 --> 00:29:23,037 No, mostly it was pranking stuff. 652 00:29:23,071 --> 00:29:27,179 This guy would run around the streets and break into houses. 653 00:29:27,213 --> 00:29:29,595 He'd wear women's underwear on his head. 654 00:29:29,629 --> 00:29:31,321 Everyone thought it was funny. 655 00:29:31,355 --> 00:29:33,841 They used to call him the Huntingdale Weirdo. 656 00:29:36,084 --> 00:29:38,121 [Sighs] 657 00:29:38,155 --> 00:29:40,640 [Muffled music plays] 658 00:29:40,675 --> 00:29:44,437 [Woman screams on recording] 659 00:29:44,472 --> 00:29:46,957 [Music continues] 660 00:29:46,992 --> 00:29:49,822 ♪♪ 661 00:29:49,857 --> 00:29:52,894 ♪♪ 662 00:29:52,929 --> 00:29:56,035 ♪♪ 663 00:29:56,070 --> 00:30:03,111 ♪♪ 664 00:30:03,146 --> 00:30:10,187 ♪♪ 665 00:30:10,222 --> 00:30:13,881 ♪♪ 666 00:30:13,915 --> 00:30:16,642 [Door creaking] 667 00:30:16,676 --> 00:30:19,541 ♪♪ 668 00:30:19,576 --> 00:30:23,269 ♪♪ 669 00:30:23,304 --> 00:30:26,203 [Woman screaming] 670 00:30:26,238 --> 00:30:34,315 ♪♪ 671 00:30:34,349 --> 00:30:40,631 [Music intensifies] 672 00:30:40,666 --> 00:30:43,220 ♪♪ 673 00:30:43,255 --> 00:30:50,676 ♪♪ 674 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:58,270 ♪♪ 675 00:30:58,304 --> 00:31:00,030 The Huntingdale Weirdo. 676 00:31:00,065 --> 00:31:03,309 Geez, he got around. There must be dozens of break-ins. 677 00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:05,691 We just need one where he left prints. 678 00:31:05,725 --> 00:31:12,008 ♪♪ 679 00:31:12,042 --> 00:31:13,664 Hmm. 680 00:31:13,699 --> 00:31:18,980 ♪♪ 681 00:31:19,015 --> 00:31:28,714 ♪♪ 682 00:31:28,748 --> 00:31:31,751 Think I've found something. 683 00:31:31,786 --> 00:31:34,478 This was an attempt to break in not too far from Kylee's house, 684 00:31:34,513 --> 00:31:36,273 and only a few days after her attack. 685 00:31:36,308 --> 00:31:39,932 He left... 686 00:31:39,967 --> 00:31:42,038 He left prints, but he didn't get in. 687 00:31:42,072 --> 00:31:44,972 Question is, do they match anyone in the system? 688 00:31:45,006 --> 00:31:52,117 ♪♪ 689 00:31:52,151 --> 00:31:56,155 Bradley Robert Edwards. 1990. 690 00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:58,502 It's the only offense ever recorded against him. 691 00:31:58,537 --> 00:32:00,056 Was it a sex crime? 692 00:32:00,090 --> 00:32:01,402 Apparently the file just says "common assault," 693 00:32:01,436 --> 00:32:03,335 which is why it wasn't picked up earlier. 694 00:32:03,369 --> 00:32:06,614 Macro was only looking for precursor sex crimes. 695 00:32:06,648 --> 00:32:09,272 [Breathes deeply] Is there a witness? 696 00:32:09,306 --> 00:32:12,413 ♪♪ 697 00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:16,935 There was nothing "common" about it. 698 00:32:19,558 --> 00:32:21,422 I thought I was gonna die. 699 00:32:23,044 --> 00:32:24,666 [Screams] 700 00:32:24,701 --> 00:32:27,324 [Muffled scream] 701 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:31,466 I have no doubt... he intended to rape me. 702 00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:36,264 The level of aggression... 703 00:32:36,299 --> 00:32:37,990 it was just insane. 704 00:32:38,025 --> 00:32:40,579 [Muffled screaming] 705 00:32:40,613 --> 00:32:42,339 I was on the floor with a gag in my mouth, 706 00:32:42,374 --> 00:32:45,446 being dragged to the toilets. 707 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,070 And you told all this to the police? 708 00:32:49,105 --> 00:32:50,554 Yep. 709 00:32:50,589 --> 00:32:54,213 ♪♪ 710 00:32:54,248 --> 00:32:55,732 [Grunts] 711 00:32:55,766 --> 00:32:58,735 I'm sorry! I'm sorry, I'm sorry! 712 00:32:58,769 --> 00:33:01,462 Everyone treated it like it was nothing. 713 00:33:01,496 --> 00:33:05,362 ♪♪ 714 00:33:05,397 --> 00:33:08,572 I even had a meeting with his boss. 715 00:33:08,607 --> 00:33:13,129 And they were saying, "Oh, he's such a nice guy. 716 00:33:13,163 --> 00:33:14,509 He was having relationship problems. 717 00:33:14,544 --> 00:33:17,202 He just had a brain snap." 718 00:33:17,236 --> 00:33:19,411 ♪♪ 719 00:33:19,445 --> 00:33:22,241 I mean, seriously, what kind of guy turns up to a hospital 720 00:33:22,276 --> 00:33:23,794 in broad daylight to fix your phones 721 00:33:23,829 --> 00:33:26,418 and tries to rape a social worker? 722 00:33:26,452 --> 00:33:30,525 ♪♪ 723 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,151 I couldn't believe it was being swept under the carpet. 724 00:33:35,185 --> 00:33:36,773 Fix the phones? 725 00:33:36,807 --> 00:33:39,155 Yeah. 726 00:33:39,189 --> 00:33:42,261 That's why he was there. He was a Telstra technician. 727 00:33:42,296 --> 00:33:50,373 ♪♪ 728 00:33:50,407 --> 00:33:51,719 [Camera shutter clicking] 729 00:33:51,753 --> 00:33:57,725 ♪♪ 730 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,591 That's him. That's our killer. 731 00:34:01,625 --> 00:34:03,903 At the time of the Huntingdale prowler attacks, 732 00:34:03,938 --> 00:34:06,423 he was an 18-year-old living at home with his parents. 733 00:34:06,458 --> 00:34:07,735 This is their house. 734 00:34:07,769 --> 00:34:09,116 These are the houses where break-ins 735 00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:10,669 or sightings were reported. 736 00:34:10,703 --> 00:34:12,705 This is the house where Kylee Cosgrove was attacked 737 00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:15,536 and the kimono found. Now, he knew this house. 738 00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:19,091 Wasn't too far from where he lived with his parents. 739 00:34:19,126 --> 00:34:21,783 His vehicles match. At the time of Karrakatta, 740 00:34:21,818 --> 00:34:24,579 he was driving a Telecom Mitsubishi van. 741 00:34:24,614 --> 00:34:26,340 This matches the description Lisa Todd 742 00:34:26,374 --> 00:34:30,206 gave of the cargo area she was thrown into in '95. 743 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,691 ♪♪ 744 00:34:32,725 --> 00:34:35,694 His next vehicle was a white Toyota Camry station wagon, 745 00:34:35,728 --> 00:34:39,353 which Sarah Spiers may have mistaken for a taxi. 746 00:34:39,387 --> 00:34:42,218 But in 1997, he was driving this. 747 00:34:42,252 --> 00:34:45,152 A Holden Commodore V6 Series 1 station wagon -- 748 00:34:45,186 --> 00:34:47,844 the exact vehicle the Burger Boys described. 749 00:34:47,878 --> 00:34:49,846 And we found the car. 750 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,641 Miraculously, it's still in operation. 751 00:34:51,675 --> 00:34:54,161 We've tracked it to a plant nursery in Chidlow. 752 00:34:54,195 --> 00:34:55,541 The Burger Boys described the wheels 753 00:34:55,576 --> 00:34:57,474 as having teardrop-shaped cutouts. 754 00:34:57,509 --> 00:34:59,304 That wasn't standard for that model Holden. 755 00:34:59,338 --> 00:35:02,445 We thought they got it wrong. They didn't. 756 00:35:02,479 --> 00:35:06,276 Now, the question is... when do we make our move? 757 00:35:06,311 --> 00:35:08,520 And are we absolutely sure this is our man? 758 00:35:08,554 --> 00:35:11,316 And the big problem -- Did he stop after Ciara? 759 00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:14,457 - Why would he? - He got married. 760 00:35:14,491 --> 00:35:16,838 We think this gave him the stability he needed 761 00:35:16,873 --> 00:35:18,806 to put a stopper to the anger. 762 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,499 And if that is true, then we have another problem, 763 00:35:22,534 --> 00:35:25,571 because it appears the second wife has just moved out. 764 00:35:25,606 --> 00:35:27,711 So we need to move now. 765 00:35:27,746 --> 00:35:31,888 [Suspenseful music plays] 766 00:35:31,922 --> 00:35:34,960 ♪♪ 767 00:35:34,994 --> 00:35:36,755 [Indistinct conversations] 768 00:35:36,789 --> 00:35:39,171 [Shouts indistinctly] 769 00:35:39,206 --> 00:35:42,657 ♪♪ 770 00:35:42,692 --> 00:35:45,212 [Laughter, woman screams] 771 00:35:45,246 --> 00:35:53,910 ♪♪ 772 00:35:53,944 --> 00:36:02,746 ♪♪ 773 00:36:02,781 --> 00:36:11,583 ♪♪ 774 00:36:11,617 --> 00:36:20,385 ♪♪ 775 00:36:20,419 --> 00:36:21,662 [Loud thud] 776 00:36:21,696 --> 00:36:23,215 - Police! Don't move! - On the ground! 777 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:25,044 - Down on your knees! - Stay where you are! 778 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:26,770 Hands on your head! 779 00:36:26,805 --> 00:36:30,843 ♪♪ 780 00:36:30,878 --> 00:36:32,397 Hands behind your back. 781 00:36:32,431 --> 00:36:33,812 I have in my possession a search warrant issued 782 00:36:33,846 --> 00:36:36,435 under the Criminal Investigation Act. 783 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:38,920 Right, that's for you. 784 00:36:38,955 --> 00:36:40,888 Bradley Robert Edwards, you are now being arrested 785 00:36:40,922 --> 00:36:42,993 on suspicion of the willful murder of Ciara Glennon... 786 00:36:43,028 --> 00:36:44,650 What? What the......Jane Rimmer... 787 00:36:44,685 --> 00:36:46,031 and Sarah Spiers.You gotta be joking. 788 00:36:46,065 --> 00:36:47,757 You're also being arrested on suspicion 789 00:36:47,791 --> 00:36:50,656 of a break-in and assault in Huntingdale in 1988, 790 00:36:50,691 --> 00:36:53,659 and a rape in Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995. 791 00:36:53,694 --> 00:36:56,041 As a person arrested on suspicion, you've got rights. 792 00:36:56,075 --> 00:36:57,698 I'm gonna go through those rights with you now, 793 00:36:57,732 --> 00:37:00,494 okay, so listen carefully. Do you have to speak to me? 794 00:37:00,528 --> 00:37:02,530 No.Are you aware that this is being recorded? 795 00:37:02,565 --> 00:37:04,394 I'm just trying to process what's going on.Okay. 796 00:37:04,429 --> 00:37:07,328 Is there any property here that belongs to Ciara Glennon... 797 00:37:07,363 --> 00:37:09,296 What? Don't... ...Jane Rimmer, or Sarah Spiers? 798 00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:10,987 Why would there be anything like that here? 799 00:37:11,021 --> 00:37:13,679 Better get him out of here. Press has got wind of this. 800 00:37:13,714 --> 00:37:16,095 Alright, get him out of here.Can I just call my parents? 801 00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:17,959 [Helicopter blades whirring] 802 00:37:17,994 --> 00:37:20,583 ♪♪ 803 00:37:20,617 --> 00:37:22,274 Officer: Watch your step. 804 00:37:22,309 --> 00:37:26,105 [Indistinct shouting, camera shutters clicking] 805 00:37:26,140 --> 00:37:31,421 ♪♪ 806 00:37:31,456 --> 00:37:33,596 Woman: Detective, any comments? 807 00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:35,805 [Engine starts] 808 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:37,738 Okay, go. Get out of here. 809 00:37:37,772 --> 00:37:39,981 [Shouting continues] 810 00:37:40,016 --> 00:37:43,640 ♪♪ 811 00:37:43,675 --> 00:37:45,780 Dave: You've got to find us something from one of the girls, 812 00:37:45,815 --> 00:37:46,988 anything linking Edwards to them. 813 00:37:47,023 --> 00:37:48,818 Ciara's brooch, Jane's clothes, 814 00:37:48,852 --> 00:37:50,854 Sarah, that -- that key ring. 815 00:37:50,889 --> 00:37:52,339 A sunflower, yeah. We'll find something. 816 00:37:52,373 --> 00:37:53,512 Is he lawyering up? 817 00:37:53,547 --> 00:37:54,858 Not yet. Said he doesn't want one. 818 00:37:54,893 --> 00:37:56,308 Ring me when you've got something. 819 00:37:56,343 --> 00:37:57,792 Yeah. 820 00:38:01,831 --> 00:38:04,005 You lead in there. 821 00:38:05,973 --> 00:38:07,733 You're about the same age. 822 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,945 Build up some rapport. 823 00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:16,811 Keep it friendly, and let's make him sing. 824 00:38:20,712 --> 00:38:22,507 [Cellphone rings] 825 00:38:22,541 --> 00:38:25,130 Oh, shit. 826 00:38:25,164 --> 00:38:27,822 You promised me the biggest story of the year, 827 00:38:27,857 --> 00:38:31,170 and then I see some blond bimbo reporting it live? 828 00:38:31,205 --> 00:38:32,793 I was gonna call you, Alison. 829 00:38:32,827 --> 00:38:35,451 I can't talk right now. 830 00:38:35,485 --> 00:38:37,660 Gavin? 831 00:38:37,694 --> 00:38:40,387 Reporter: The police have not yet issued an official statement. 832 00:38:40,421 --> 00:38:42,354 [Door closes]Gavin: Okay. 833 00:38:52,468 --> 00:38:56,023 Okay. We just wanted to ask you a couple of questions. 834 00:38:56,057 --> 00:38:57,783 Maybe we can just start at the beginning? 835 00:38:57,818 --> 00:38:59,371 Sure. 836 00:38:59,406 --> 00:39:02,995 Why don't you tell us about your childhood? 837 00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:04,928 But what does my childhood have to... 838 00:39:04,963 --> 00:39:06,827 Just to get to know you, you know? 839 00:39:06,861 --> 00:39:10,796 Okay. We... We lived in a van for a while 840 00:39:10,831 --> 00:39:14,144 because my dad was always traveling for work, 841 00:39:14,179 --> 00:39:16,077 but, um, it was good, you know? 842 00:39:16,112 --> 00:39:17,631 We saw my parents' friends a lot. 843 00:39:17,665 --> 00:39:20,392 Had barbecues on weekends.[Sizzling] 844 00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:23,947 Pretty normal, just growing-up stuff. 845 00:39:23,982 --> 00:39:26,467 [Indistinct conversations] 846 00:39:26,502 --> 00:39:28,573 ♪♪ 847 00:39:28,607 --> 00:39:32,128 [Choir vocalizing] 848 00:39:32,162 --> 00:39:40,170 ♪♪ 849 00:39:40,205 --> 00:39:42,759 [Ominous music plays] 850 00:39:42,794 --> 00:39:44,658 [Vocalizing continues] 851 00:39:44,692 --> 00:39:45,797 [Door opens] 852 00:39:45,831 --> 00:39:47,039 [Drawer slams] 853 00:39:47,074 --> 00:39:48,075 ♪♪ 854 00:39:48,109 --> 00:39:49,663 [Clears throat] 855 00:39:49,697 --> 00:39:51,250 And you wore glasses? 856 00:39:51,285 --> 00:39:52,942 Yeah.Mm. 857 00:39:52,976 --> 00:39:54,461 Yeah, I wasn't the best-looking kid. 858 00:39:54,495 --> 00:39:56,186 I got teased about it.Oh, okay. 859 00:39:56,221 --> 00:39:57,912 That's hard.Mm. 860 00:39:57,947 --> 00:40:00,915 So I started wearing contact lenses when I was about 20. 861 00:40:00,950 --> 00:40:02,572 20. 862 00:40:02,607 --> 00:40:04,954 But you wore glasses before that? 863 00:40:04,988 --> 00:40:07,888 Yeah. Mm. Okay. 864 00:40:15,482 --> 00:40:18,450 Valentine's Day in 1988. Do you remember where you were? 865 00:40:18,485 --> 00:40:21,626 Come on, mate. I can't even remember where I was last week. 866 00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:22,730 Yeah. 867 00:40:22,765 --> 00:40:25,526 [Chuckles] 868 00:40:25,561 --> 00:40:27,563 [Laughs] 869 00:40:27,597 --> 00:40:30,013 Do you remember Kylee Cosgrove? 870 00:40:33,085 --> 00:40:35,916 She lived not far from you in Huntingdale. 871 00:40:35,950 --> 00:40:38,505 Uh, no, I don't think so. 872 00:40:38,539 --> 00:40:39,920 Don't think so? 873 00:40:39,954 --> 00:40:41,542 No. 874 00:40:41,577 --> 00:40:43,475 She didn't go to your school? 875 00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:44,718 No. 876 00:40:44,752 --> 00:40:46,927 I mean, we might have... 877 00:40:46,961 --> 00:40:48,756 I remember -- I remember the name Cosgrove. 878 00:40:48,791 --> 00:40:50,896 I think my brother used to swim at their pool or something, 879 00:40:50,931 --> 00:40:52,311 but I-I don't -- I didn't cross paths 880 00:40:52,346 --> 00:40:53,761 with any Kylee Cosgrove. 881 00:40:53,796 --> 00:40:55,176 Okay. Yep. 882 00:40:55,211 --> 00:40:56,868 Mm. 883 00:40:56,902 --> 00:41:00,768 And you know anything about a kimono? 884 00:41:00,803 --> 00:41:04,254 Two birds, red flowers on the back? 885 00:41:04,289 --> 00:41:06,015 No. Nothing. 886 00:41:06,049 --> 00:41:08,327 Nothing. 887 00:41:08,362 --> 00:41:10,329 Maybe we can back up a bit. 888 00:41:10,364 --> 00:41:12,918 Can you tell us about your first marriage? 889 00:41:12,953 --> 00:41:16,197 First marriage?Yeah. 890 00:41:16,232 --> 00:41:18,924 I was depressed. 891 00:41:18,959 --> 00:41:22,652 Um, I drank a lot. 892 00:41:22,687 --> 00:41:25,034 You know why she left? 893 00:41:25,068 --> 00:41:28,037 We, uh... 894 00:41:28,071 --> 00:41:30,626 We had a lodger, and she took up with him. 895 00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:39,566 ♪♪ 896 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,809 But I still kinda loved her, you know? 897 00:41:41,844 --> 00:41:43,708 And her parents told my parents that leaving me 898 00:41:43,742 --> 00:41:46,020 was the worst decision that she ever made. 899 00:41:46,055 --> 00:41:50,300 Mm. Your wife left you around Australia Day '96? 900 00:41:50,335 --> 00:41:52,233 Yeah, probably about then. 901 00:41:52,268 --> 00:41:55,685 That's about when Sarah Spiers went missing. 902 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:59,309 Isn't it? Yeah. 903 00:41:59,344 --> 00:42:04,107 And you found out your wife was pregnant to this lodger... 904 00:42:04,142 --> 00:42:06,213 I guess. Well, if... Yeah, June. 905 00:42:06,247 --> 00:42:08,042 June 1996. 906 00:42:08,077 --> 00:42:10,976 [Sighs] 907 00:42:11,011 --> 00:42:14,186 That's about the time Jane Rimmer went missing. 908 00:42:14,221 --> 00:42:16,603 Mm... 909 00:42:16,637 --> 00:42:17,983 And I've got here you sold the home you bought 910 00:42:18,018 --> 00:42:21,090 with your first wife in January of 1997. 911 00:42:21,124 --> 00:42:25,197 That's around the time Ciara Glennon was abducted. 912 00:42:25,232 --> 00:42:29,339 That's a hell of a coincidence. Is that right -- those dates? 913 00:42:29,374 --> 00:42:31,307 Look, I don't know anything about any of that. 914 00:42:31,341 --> 00:42:34,344 I'm trying to be as honest with you blokes as I can. 915 00:42:34,379 --> 00:42:37,382 ♪♪ 916 00:42:37,416 --> 00:42:40,627 Will you submit to giving a DNA sample? 917 00:42:40,661 --> 00:42:41,731 DNA? 918 00:42:41,766 --> 00:42:44,078 Yeah, for testing. 919 00:42:44,113 --> 00:42:46,667 You can oblige willingly, or we can get a court order, 920 00:42:46,702 --> 00:42:51,051 but either way, yeah, we'll get it. 921 00:42:51,085 --> 00:42:52,915 [Chuckles] No, no, I'll give it. I don't mind. 922 00:42:52,949 --> 00:42:54,675 I keep telling you I've got nothing to hide. 923 00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:56,125 Just wanna go to sleep and wake up, 924 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,782 and this'll all be over. You know what I mean? 925 00:42:57,816 --> 00:43:03,891 ♪♪ 926 00:43:03,926 --> 00:43:06,100 [Police radio chatter, indistinct conversations] 927 00:43:09,069 --> 00:43:12,693 Hey, Dave. We found porn, snuff films, 928 00:43:12,728 --> 00:43:14,350 women's underwear with the crotch cut out, 929 00:43:14,384 --> 00:43:17,215 homemade sex toys, some stuff he's written about rape. 930 00:43:17,249 --> 00:43:19,424 I mean, this guy's a psycho fuck, but... 931 00:43:19,458 --> 00:43:21,115 There's nothing to connect him to the girls? 932 00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:24,429 Yeah, not yet. Neither clothing, nor jewelry. 933 00:43:24,463 --> 00:43:26,914 Not one trophy. He's either hidden it, or... 934 00:43:26,949 --> 00:43:28,191 He got rid of it. 935 00:43:28,226 --> 00:43:29,883 Yeah. How's the interview going? 936 00:43:29,917 --> 00:43:31,263 Uh, he's denying everything. 937 00:43:31,298 --> 00:43:33,196 He's lying, Nikki. He's making shit up. 938 00:43:33,231 --> 00:43:34,922 But you still have enough to charge him? 939 00:43:34,957 --> 00:43:37,649 Yeah, but, you know, a confession would be bloody nice. 940 00:43:37,684 --> 00:43:39,133 I'll get one. I'll get a confession. 941 00:43:39,168 --> 00:43:41,032 Gav. 942 00:43:41,066 --> 00:43:42,481 We'll have new DNA results within an hour, 943 00:43:42,516 --> 00:43:44,276 and when they match with what we found on Ciara, 944 00:43:44,311 --> 00:43:45,692 we won't need a confession. 945 00:43:45,726 --> 00:43:47,279 What, he gave his DNA willingly? 946 00:43:47,314 --> 00:43:49,281 He did.Shit. 947 00:43:49,316 --> 00:43:50,697 He either doesn't think we have anything 948 00:43:50,731 --> 00:43:52,284 to compare it to or he's not our guy. 949 00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:55,253 He's our guy. Right, we'll talk soon, eh? 950 00:43:55,287 --> 00:43:59,429 ♪♪ 951 00:43:59,464 --> 00:44:01,777 You bet he is. 952 00:44:01,811 --> 00:44:03,710 Look. 953 00:44:03,744 --> 00:44:06,989 ♪♪ 954 00:44:07,023 --> 00:44:09,370 He's sleeping. 955 00:44:09,405 --> 00:44:12,891 Only guilty bastards sleep. 956 00:44:12,926 --> 00:44:15,238 The innocent are always pacing. 957 00:44:15,273 --> 00:44:22,798 ♪♪ 958 00:44:22,832 --> 00:44:26,525 Gavin: Mr. Edwards. 959 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,355 It's time to get up. 960 00:44:28,389 --> 00:44:32,773 ♪♪ 961 00:44:32,808 --> 00:44:35,189 Now, in 1996, when you were working for Telstra, 962 00:44:35,224 --> 00:44:37,985 did you drive a Holden Commodore station wagon? 963 00:44:38,020 --> 00:44:39,331 Yeah. 964 00:44:39,366 --> 00:44:41,023 Yeah. And a cargo area in the back? 965 00:44:41,057 --> 00:44:42,369 Yeah, there was a caged area 966 00:44:42,403 --> 00:44:45,061 between the driver and the rear area, 967 00:44:45,096 --> 00:44:47,995 but I think every Telstra vehicle looked like that. 968 00:44:48,030 --> 00:44:51,378 And did you drive around the nightclubs in Claremont? 969 00:44:51,412 --> 00:44:55,209 Um, I mean, I'm aware of them, I've never been to them. 970 00:44:55,244 --> 00:44:59,558 I-I don't go out to Claremont. 971 00:44:59,593 --> 00:45:01,457 Okay. 972 00:45:01,491 --> 00:45:04,771 We'll just take a look at this map. 973 00:45:04,805 --> 00:45:06,945 Do you know Rowe Park? 974 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,292 No.Are you positive? 975 00:45:09,327 --> 00:45:10,811 Yes. 976 00:45:10,846 --> 00:45:13,089 Karrakatta Cemetery?Yes. 977 00:45:13,124 --> 00:45:17,818 I was there for a memorial for a woman in 2008, I think. 978 00:45:17,853 --> 00:45:19,337 No time before? 979 00:45:19,371 --> 00:45:22,064 Not that I recall. 980 00:45:22,098 --> 00:45:23,755 [Knock on door] 981 00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:24,894 Come in. 982 00:45:24,929 --> 00:45:27,138 [Door opens] 983 00:45:27,172 --> 00:45:28,553 Thank you. 984 00:45:30,555 --> 00:45:32,384 [Door closes] 985 00:45:57,824 --> 00:46:04,451 ♪♪ 986 00:46:04,485 --> 00:46:06,591 Are you aware of the women who were abducted from Claremont 987 00:46:06,625 --> 00:46:09,180 in '96 and '97? 988 00:46:09,214 --> 00:46:11,907 ♪♪ 989 00:46:11,941 --> 00:46:13,115 I'm aware of them. 990 00:46:13,149 --> 00:46:15,289 I think everybody was aware of them. 991 00:46:15,324 --> 00:46:18,914 But I'm 110% -- I am 120% 992 00:46:18,948 --> 00:46:21,813 certain that I'm not involved in any of this. 993 00:46:21,848 --> 00:46:24,160 I don't know how many ways that I can say no. 994 00:46:24,195 --> 00:46:26,024 Right. 995 00:46:26,059 --> 00:46:28,647 DNA results have come back, 996 00:46:28,682 --> 00:46:31,236 and they confirm that your DNA is a positive match 997 00:46:31,271 --> 00:46:34,170 for the kimono in Huntingdale in 1988...No, that's not possible. 998 00:46:34,205 --> 00:46:37,001 ...for the rape of a young woman in Karrakatta Cemetery... No. 999 00:46:37,035 --> 00:46:40,625 How can that be?...and for the murder of Ciara Glennon in 1997. 1000 00:46:40,659 --> 00:46:42,938 No. 1001 00:46:42,972 --> 00:46:43,973 Can you explain that? 1002 00:46:44,008 --> 00:46:45,872 I-I can't. 1003 00:46:45,906 --> 00:46:47,494 You can't explain that?No. 1004 00:46:47,528 --> 00:46:50,083 Alright. You're an intelligent man. You're not dumb. 1005 00:46:50,117 --> 00:46:52,292 Now, you know that your DNA is unique. 1006 00:46:52,326 --> 00:46:53,569 You're the only person in the whole world 1007 00:46:53,603 --> 00:46:55,053 with that DNA profile. 1008 00:46:55,088 --> 00:46:57,400 I can -- I can't explain that. I mean... 1009 00:46:57,435 --> 00:46:59,092 Just tell us what happened. 1010 00:46:59,126 --> 00:47:01,266 I-I wish I could, but I can't because I wasn't there! 1011 00:47:01,301 --> 00:47:03,613 I-I mean, you're...Hey, slow down. 1012 00:47:03,648 --> 00:47:05,443 I see that you don't believe that I did it. 1013 00:47:05,477 --> 00:47:07,203 Slow down.But you're the one saying that I did it. 1014 00:47:07,238 --> 00:47:09,102 Listen, the question I asked you 1015 00:47:09,136 --> 00:47:11,656 is, do you understand that your DNA profile's unique? 1016 00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:13,244 I can't explain that! 1017 00:47:13,278 --> 00:47:15,073 I don't understand what's happening! 1018 00:47:15,108 --> 00:47:18,870 Well, we found your semen on the kimono in Huntingdale. 1019 00:47:18,905 --> 00:47:22,632 We found your DNA on Lisa Todd in Karrakatta Cemetery. 1020 00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:24,186 Can't explain that?No. 1021 00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:26,878 And we found your DNA on Ciara Glennon, 1022 00:47:26,913 --> 00:47:30,606 27 years of age, murdered March 14, 1997, okay? 1023 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,159 Your DNA is on her. 1024 00:47:32,194 --> 00:47:33,574 Impossible.Can't explain that one either? 1025 00:47:33,609 --> 00:47:34,955 No.Alright. 1026 00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:37,164 Are you an honest man?I'm -- Yes. 1027 00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,995 'Cause we interviewed your stepdaughter. 1028 00:47:40,029 --> 00:47:42,031 And she said that your most-prized virtue 1029 00:47:42,066 --> 00:47:43,308 is your honesty. 1030 00:47:43,343 --> 00:47:46,242 I ambeing honest. 1031 00:47:46,277 --> 00:47:48,417 Are you a man who accepts responsibility for your actions? 1032 00:47:48,451 --> 00:47:50,591 I accept responsibility for the stuff that I have done, 1033 00:47:50,626 --> 00:47:53,077 not for the stuff that I haven't. 1034 00:47:53,111 --> 00:47:57,667 ♪♪ 1035 00:47:57,702 --> 00:48:01,706 Bradley Robert Edwards, you're now being charged 1036 00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:03,708 with the assault on Kylee Cosgrove... 1037 00:48:03,742 --> 00:48:05,572 No, you've got the wrong guy....in 1988... 1038 00:48:05,606 --> 00:48:09,334 the rape of Lisa Todd in 1995, 1039 00:48:09,369 --> 00:48:11,923 and the murders of Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon. 1040 00:48:11,958 --> 00:48:14,684 I did not do it! You've got the wrong guy. 1041 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,308 ♪♪ 1042 00:48:17,342 --> 00:48:19,413 I'm here to make an important announcement... 1043 00:48:19,448 --> 00:48:20,759 [Cellphone rings] ...to the West Australian community. 1044 00:48:20,794 --> 00:48:22,416 Detectives from the Special Crime Squad 1045 00:48:22,451 --> 00:48:25,385 have charged a 48-year-old Kewdale man 1046 00:48:25,419 --> 00:48:28,146 with the murders of Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon, 1047 00:48:28,181 --> 00:48:30,286 and attacks. on other young women.Gav? 1048 00:48:30,321 --> 00:48:32,116 You watching this? This has already been 1049 00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:34,773 the biggest and most complex police investigation 1050 00:48:34,808 --> 00:48:36,085 in WA's history.Congratulations, Gav. 1051 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,638 Hundreds of police officers... 1052 00:48:37,673 --> 00:48:39,537 Now we have to convict him. 1053 00:48:39,571 --> 00:48:41,056 ...over the past 20 years. 1054 00:48:41,090 --> 00:48:43,403 You will. The commitment of the WA Police 1055 00:48:43,437 --> 00:48:46,613 and its officers have never wavered. 1056 00:48:46,647 --> 00:48:48,995 We never give up. 1057 00:48:49,029 --> 00:48:50,686 He didn't confess and he's pleading not guilty 1058 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,515 to every charge. There's nothing 1059 00:48:52,550 --> 00:48:54,276 in any of the houses that links him to the girls. 1060 00:48:54,310 --> 00:48:56,657 Not one trophy, not one hair, nothing. 1061 00:48:56,692 --> 00:48:58,521 Just tell him you got something from his car. 1062 00:48:58,556 --> 00:49:02,353 Yeah, we found this. 1063 00:49:02,387 --> 00:49:04,079 You see it? 1064 00:49:04,113 --> 00:49:06,978 Yeah. But that doesn't link him to any of the girls. 1065 00:49:07,013 --> 00:49:08,531 You got anything else? 1066 00:49:08,566 --> 00:49:10,016 There was no blood or hair from them in the car. 1067 00:49:10,050 --> 00:49:11,672 How can there be no blood? 1068 00:49:11,707 --> 00:49:14,020 Well, he must have killed them where we found them. 1069 00:49:14,054 --> 00:49:17,678 But the fibers on Jane and Ciara match, okay? 1070 00:49:17,713 --> 00:49:21,165 These gray ones were found in the carpet on the car floor 1071 00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,167 and back well of a Holden Commodore. 1072 00:49:23,201 --> 00:49:26,549 And on the handle that adjusts the driver's seat, 1073 00:49:26,584 --> 00:49:28,482 13 blue fibers we can't ID yet. 1074 00:49:28,517 --> 00:49:31,071 But I had an idea about them. 1075 00:49:34,557 --> 00:49:35,834 You see it? 1076 00:49:35,869 --> 00:49:37,595 Yeah. The shorts. 1077 00:49:37,629 --> 00:49:40,598 These could be the source of the blue fibers. 1078 00:49:40,632 --> 00:49:44,498 We've just got to find someone who kept a pair since 1995. 1079 00:49:44,533 --> 00:49:47,639 I swear, okay? I didn't have anything to do with it. 1080 00:49:47,674 --> 00:49:49,641 It's just like with that other guy, 1081 00:49:49,676 --> 00:49:51,816 that, um, public servant that they... 1082 00:49:51,850 --> 00:49:53,231 Lance Williams. 1083 00:49:53,266 --> 00:49:56,648 That's it. Yeah. That's what the cops do. 1084 00:49:56,683 --> 00:49:59,237 They get tunnel vision, they zone in on a guy. 1085 00:49:59,272 --> 00:50:01,136 But why'd they pick you, Dad?I don't know. 1086 00:50:01,170 --> 00:50:05,174 They're saying that they've got my DNA from an attack in 1988. 1087 00:50:05,209 --> 00:50:07,383 What's that, 30 years ago? 1088 00:50:07,418 --> 00:50:09,454 They're just trying to stitch me up. You'll see. 1089 00:50:09,489 --> 00:50:12,043 We'll keep supporting you, Brad. Don't worry. 1090 00:50:12,078 --> 00:50:13,665 So will Mum and Dad. 1091 00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,736 We all believe you. 1092 00:50:15,771 --> 00:50:20,707 ♪♪ 1093 00:50:20,741 --> 00:50:22,881 I-I don't understand how he isn't charged 1094 00:50:22,916 --> 00:50:24,607 with Sarah's... 1095 00:50:24,642 --> 00:50:26,333 with her... 1096 00:50:26,368 --> 00:50:30,199 her murder. 1097 00:50:30,234 --> 00:50:31,476 There's still nothing concrete 1098 00:50:31,511 --> 00:50:34,824 that links him with Sarah -- yet. 1099 00:50:34,859 --> 00:50:36,619 You need a body. 1100 00:50:36,654 --> 00:50:39,277 No. 1101 00:50:39,312 --> 00:50:42,763 Not necessarily. 1102 00:50:42,798 --> 00:50:45,490 But we could use more evidence. 1103 00:50:45,525 --> 00:50:47,561 Do you have any kids? 1104 00:50:51,255 --> 00:50:53,119 No. 1105 00:50:54,499 --> 00:50:56,674 In the country... 1106 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,299 you can sometimes fear the big city. 1107 00:51:03,508 --> 00:51:05,614 But our girls didn't. 1108 00:51:05,648 --> 00:51:09,273 They were just so... 1109 00:51:09,307 --> 00:51:13,208 alive. 1110 00:51:13,242 --> 00:51:16,383 But we worried for them, and... 1111 00:51:16,418 --> 00:51:18,558 we bought them a flat in a nice part of town 1112 00:51:18,592 --> 00:51:20,870 and a good car 1113 00:51:20,905 --> 00:51:24,943 [Voice breaking] and tried to keep them safe. 1114 00:51:24,978 --> 00:51:26,497 Still, just... 1115 00:51:27,636 --> 00:51:31,812 life just... 1116 00:51:31,847 --> 00:51:35,678 blows up. 1117 00:51:35,713 --> 00:51:38,543 It's just your worst fear. 1118 00:51:49,658 --> 00:51:53,351 Don't let 'em forget about her. 1119 00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:55,250 Charge the bastard for those other girls 1120 00:51:55,284 --> 00:51:58,667 and forget about Sarah. 1121 00:51:58,701 --> 00:52:01,601 I'll make sure they don't. 1122 00:52:01,635 --> 00:52:03,189 Yeah. 1123 00:52:08,849 --> 00:52:15,546 ♪♪ 1124 00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:18,411 Hey. 1125 00:52:18,445 --> 00:52:19,481 Which way you headed? 1126 00:52:19,515 --> 00:52:20,896 Mosman Park. 1127 00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:23,278 Oh, that's okay. I'm headed that way anyway. 1128 00:52:23,312 --> 00:52:25,418 Cool. 1129 00:52:25,452 --> 00:52:28,731 [Gasping] 1130 00:52:30,043 --> 00:52:32,701 [Cellphone rings] 1131 00:52:32,735 --> 00:52:34,323 Gav? What time is it? 1132 00:52:34,358 --> 00:52:37,499 Gavin: I think she must have seen his car. 1133 00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:38,948 It looked like a cab. She'd just called one. 1134 00:52:38,983 --> 00:52:41,019 So she got in, and only after he started out, 1135 00:52:41,054 --> 00:52:44,575 did she realize that...it wasn't a cab. 1136 00:52:44,609 --> 00:52:46,611 Yeah, she would have panicked then. 1137 00:52:46,646 --> 00:52:50,028 No, but Edwards, he must have sweet-talked her. 1138 00:52:50,063 --> 00:52:51,444 No one heard anything in Claremont, 1139 00:52:51,478 --> 00:52:53,963 so somehow he got her to stay quiet. 1140 00:52:53,998 --> 00:52:57,933 That's what we always thought, but how are you gonna prove 1141 00:52:57,967 --> 00:52:59,590 Sarah got in his car? 1142 00:52:59,624 --> 00:53:00,625 She might have--I'll prove it. 1143 00:53:00,660 --> 00:53:03,973 I'll prove it. 1144 00:53:04,008 --> 00:53:06,493 We don't know what really happened that night. 1145 00:53:06,528 --> 00:53:08,599 No one does. 1146 00:53:08,633 --> 00:53:11,257 Defense will say Sarah ran off with a guy 1147 00:53:11,291 --> 00:53:13,397 or went for a midnight swim and drowned or any... 1148 00:53:13,431 --> 00:53:15,640 I don't really care what defense has to say. 1149 00:53:15,675 --> 00:53:17,504 She got in his car. 1150 00:53:17,539 --> 00:53:19,368 But you have to be able to prove it. 1151 00:53:19,403 --> 00:53:20,956 Just take a step back, Gav, and... 1152 00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:24,649 I'm not stepping back. We have to get him. 1153 00:53:24,684 --> 00:53:27,238 For Sarah. For their family. 1154 00:53:27,273 --> 00:53:29,620 We have to get him. I have to get him. 1155 00:53:29,654 --> 00:53:34,659 ♪♪ 1156 00:53:34,694 --> 00:53:37,524 I've gotta get him. 1157 00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,872 A Telstra tech named Jeff Cohen kept these since 1995. 1158 00:53:40,907 --> 00:53:42,771 Never even worn them. 1159 00:53:42,805 --> 00:53:45,291 ChemCentre tested them and the fibers from the dye lot 1160 00:53:45,325 --> 00:53:46,775 are an exact match to the fibers 1161 00:53:46,809 --> 00:53:48,708 found on Jane, Lisa, and Ciara. 1162 00:53:48,742 --> 00:53:50,330 This blue is unique to Telstra? 1163 00:53:50,365 --> 00:53:52,332 The dye was developed exclusively for them. 1164 00:53:52,367 --> 00:53:55,024 A different blue from police uniforms or any other tradies. 1165 00:53:55,059 --> 00:53:58,062 This puts a Telstra worker at the scene of all three crimes. 1166 00:53:58,096 --> 00:53:59,477 Edwards. 1167 00:53:59,512 --> 00:54:00,892 Car fibers, these, they're good, 1168 00:54:00,927 --> 00:54:02,446 but they're circumstantial. 1169 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,896 This could be from any Telstra worker. 1170 00:54:04,931 --> 00:54:06,795 Only the DNA on Ciara's nail puts Edwards there. 1171 00:54:06,829 --> 00:54:09,315 That's enough, right? 1172 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:12,283 The lawyer that Edwards hired, Paul Yovich, he's smart. 1173 00:54:12,318 --> 00:54:15,113 He knows he'll have to create doubt about the DNA. 1174 00:54:15,148 --> 00:54:16,839 If I were Yovich, I'd suggest 1175 00:54:16,874 --> 00:54:19,048 there might have been cross-contamination at the lab. 1176 00:54:19,083 --> 00:54:20,843 Can he prove that? 1177 00:54:20,878 --> 00:54:23,398 I'm afraid PathWest has a history of cross-contamination. 1178 00:54:23,432 --> 00:54:26,884 But don't worry. I still think that we can convict him 1179 00:54:26,918 --> 00:54:28,610 for Jane and Ciara's murder. 1180 00:54:28,644 --> 00:54:31,337 What about Sarah? You've gotta get Sarah on the brief. 1181 00:54:31,371 --> 00:54:32,993 You can't let him walk on her. 1182 00:54:33,028 --> 00:54:35,410 Once we prove Edwards' guilt on Jane and Ciara 1183 00:54:35,444 --> 00:54:39,034 with the same MO, the same propensity of evidence, 1184 00:54:39,068 --> 00:54:41,864 we should be able to connect him to Sarah. 1185 00:54:41,899 --> 00:54:44,073 So you're gonna add Sarah to the charge brief? 1186 00:54:44,108 --> 00:54:49,044 Yes. The Spiers deserve that. But prepare yourself. 1187 00:54:49,078 --> 00:54:52,012 Justice Hall could still dismiss her charge for lack of evidence. 1188 00:54:52,047 --> 00:54:54,014 Don't let him.Then I suggest, Detective, 1189 00:54:54,049 --> 00:54:55,775 that you get me some more evidence 1190 00:54:55,809 --> 00:54:58,674 connecting Edwards to Sarah Spiers. 1191 00:55:07,614 --> 00:55:09,513 Doesn't matter how many times you look at it, 1192 00:55:09,547 --> 00:55:11,618 you still can't tell it's Edwards. 1193 00:55:13,586 --> 00:55:17,037 It could be him. 1194 00:55:17,072 --> 00:55:19,108 If he'd just turn around. 1195 00:55:25,874 --> 00:55:28,842 Have you seen this? 1196 00:55:28,877 --> 00:55:30,982 I didn't even know he was sick. 1197 00:55:31,017 --> 00:55:33,675 Cancer. 1198 00:55:33,709 --> 00:55:35,884 I got in his car. 1199 00:55:38,714 --> 00:55:41,614 Remember? 1200 00:55:41,648 --> 00:55:43,719 I said it was him. 1201 00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:50,070 I was so sure. 1202 00:55:50,105 --> 00:55:52,038 So was I. 1203 00:55:55,041 --> 00:55:56,767 You know, if Lance had picked up Jane 1204 00:55:56,801 --> 00:55:59,977 or any of those girls... 1205 00:56:01,565 --> 00:56:04,015 ...they'd still be alive. 1206 00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:10,125 But now you've got the right guy. 1207 00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:11,851 You have his DNA. 1208 00:56:11,885 --> 00:56:15,510 No way is he getting out of this. 1209 00:56:15,544 --> 00:56:17,443 That's the thing. I didn't have anything to do with the murders, 1210 00:56:17,477 --> 00:56:20,066 I swear. And I've been thinking. 1211 00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:23,000 I want to give evidence. I want to... 1212 00:56:23,034 --> 00:56:24,933 I want to say that at trial.If you do that, 1213 00:56:24,967 --> 00:56:26,866 you could be on the stand for six months in cross. 1214 00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:29,558 And they can ask you anything. You have to answer, in detail 1215 00:56:29,593 --> 00:56:30,663 and under oath. 1216 00:56:30,697 --> 00:56:32,768 I can do that. 1217 00:56:32,803 --> 00:56:34,183 Look, it is your decision in the end. 1218 00:56:34,218 --> 00:56:36,082 Could you stop doing that? Listen to me. 1219 00:56:36,116 --> 00:56:37,911 Putting you on the stand, in my opinion, 1220 00:56:37,946 --> 00:56:41,259 that would be a mistake. They'll push you hard, Bradley. 1221 00:56:41,294 --> 00:56:42,640 Okay. 1222 00:56:42,675 --> 00:56:46,920 But all this time being locked up, 1223 00:56:46,955 --> 00:56:49,060 I've been searching my conscience 1224 00:56:49,095 --> 00:56:52,132 and I want to plead guilty 1225 00:56:52,167 --> 00:56:57,137 to the assaults at Huntingdale and Karrakatta. 1226 00:56:57,172 --> 00:56:59,692 Guilty? Yep. Yep. 1227 00:56:59,726 --> 00:57:02,660 I was a different person back then. 1228 00:57:02,695 --> 00:57:06,008 I snapped. It wasn't really me. 1229 00:57:06,043 --> 00:57:09,184 ♪♪ 1230 00:57:09,218 --> 00:57:12,670 Plus, they've got that DNA at both the crime scenes, right? 1231 00:57:12,705 --> 00:57:15,224 That'll hold up in court?Mm. 1232 00:57:15,259 --> 00:57:17,503 Those samples have been locked away for 20 years. 1233 00:57:17,537 --> 00:57:18,745 They'll be convincing. 1234 00:57:18,780 --> 00:57:20,091 Right. So that's what I'm thinking. 1235 00:57:20,126 --> 00:57:22,231 Bradley, I can't be a party to any lies. 1236 00:57:22,266 --> 00:57:25,096 I'm not lying. 1237 00:57:25,131 --> 00:57:29,894 I did the assaults, but I didn't do the murders. 1238 00:57:29,929 --> 00:57:32,172 I couldn't do that. I'm not guilty of murder. 1239 00:57:32,207 --> 00:57:33,657 It's just, the cops are pinning it on me 1240 00:57:33,691 --> 00:57:35,244 because they want to blame somebody. 1241 00:57:35,279 --> 00:57:37,005 So if you plead guilty to the assaults, 1242 00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:39,179 you plead early, you save the court time and money. 1243 00:57:39,214 --> 00:57:41,078 You could get a reduced sentence. 1244 00:57:41,112 --> 00:57:43,011 And, of course, with time in custody, 1245 00:57:43,045 --> 00:57:44,909 probably looking at three or four years. 1246 00:57:44,944 --> 00:57:46,532 That's it? 1247 00:57:46,566 --> 00:57:48,844 And if I can prove the cross-contamination of DNA 1248 00:57:48,879 --> 00:57:51,226 taken from Ciara Glennon, 1249 00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:53,090 you could be out before you're 55. 1250 00:57:53,124 --> 00:57:57,232 ♪♪ 1251 00:57:57,266 --> 00:58:00,028 So -- So... 1252 00:58:00,062 --> 00:58:01,961 what about before, 1253 00:58:01,995 --> 00:58:03,272 pleading not guilty to the assaults? 1254 00:58:03,307 --> 00:58:04,895 Can that work against me? 1255 00:58:04,929 --> 00:58:06,724 No, there's no law against lying to the police. 1256 00:58:06,759 --> 00:58:09,037 Justice Hall can't let lying about an earlier crime influence 1257 00:58:09,071 --> 00:58:10,866 his decision about the murders. 1258 00:58:10,901 --> 00:58:16,700 Right. So pleading guilty to the assaults is my best way forward? 1259 00:58:16,734 --> 00:58:19,530 If it's the truth.That's the truth. 1260 00:58:19,565 --> 00:58:21,325 In a shock announcement today, Bradley Edwards, 1261 00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:23,534 the accused Claremont serial killer, 1262 00:58:23,569 --> 00:58:26,088 is now pleading guilty to rape and assault charges 1263 00:58:26,123 --> 00:58:28,677 from 1988 and 1995. 1264 00:58:28,712 --> 00:58:30,368 Since his arrest, 1265 00:58:30,403 --> 00:58:33,717 Mr. Edwards has steadfastly insisted his innocence. 1266 00:58:33,751 --> 00:58:35,132 And though he is now pleading guilty 1267 00:58:35,166 --> 00:58:36,927 to the rape and assault charges, 1268 00:58:36,961 --> 00:58:39,170 he still maintains that he never killed anyone, 1269 00:58:39,205 --> 00:58:42,208 and will fight those charges to the utmost of his abilities. 1270 00:58:42,242 --> 00:58:44,175 - Four years? - With time in custody, 1271 00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:46,281 that's the minimum he could get for the assault and rape. 1272 00:58:46,315 --> 00:58:48,076 For everything he did -- four years? 1273 00:58:48,110 --> 00:58:51,044 That won't happen. Conviction on the murder charges 1274 00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:53,150 will get him life with no chance of parole. 1275 00:58:53,184 --> 00:58:54,703 If the DNA doesn't get thrown out 1276 00:58:54,738 --> 00:58:56,671 on some bullshit contamination argument. 1277 00:58:56,705 --> 00:58:58,362 Gav, we'll get him.We haven't got him for 20 years, Nik. 1278 00:58:58,396 --> 00:58:59,915 This guy's had the devil's luck 1279 00:58:59,950 --> 00:59:01,814 and I'm not certain it's run out yet. 1280 00:59:01,848 --> 00:59:05,300 ♪♪ 1281 00:59:05,334 --> 00:59:07,164 Reporter: People lined up outside the court 1282 00:59:07,198 --> 00:59:08,752 before sunrise, hoping for a front-row seat. 1283 00:59:08,786 --> 00:59:10,339 Reporter #2: ...chilling day of evidence 1284 00:59:10,374 --> 00:59:12,825 from the opening of the Claremont serial killings. 1285 00:59:12,859 --> 00:59:14,792 Reporter #3:...with a high level of public interest. 1286 00:59:14,827 --> 00:59:16,691 Reporter #4: Edwards is charged with the murders 1287 00:59:16,725 --> 00:59:18,106 of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer... 1288 00:59:18,140 --> 00:59:19,694 Reporter #5: ...trial by judge alone. 1289 00:59:19,728 --> 00:59:21,247 Reporter #6: The three women disappeared... 1290 00:59:21,281 --> 00:59:23,629 If Trevor was alive, he'd be here. 1291 00:59:23,663 --> 00:59:25,596 He loved Janey so much. 1292 00:59:25,631 --> 00:59:27,667 We pray for Ciara all the time. 1293 00:59:27,702 --> 00:59:30,877 When Una and I see a girl around her...her age, 1294 00:59:30,912 --> 00:59:32,776 we think of her still. 1295 00:59:32,810 --> 00:59:36,883 Sarah had something different about her to most other kids. 1296 00:59:36,918 --> 00:59:41,716 She had this lovely warmth about her, didn't she? 1297 00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:42,786 Yeah. 1298 00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:44,339 Alison: The trial of the century 1299 00:59:44,373 --> 00:59:47,100 in Western Australia gets under way today. 1300 00:59:47,135 --> 00:59:48,792 The amount of evidence that's been gathered 1301 00:59:48,826 --> 00:59:51,070 for this case has been staggering. 1302 00:59:51,104 --> 00:59:54,625 Over 16,000 DNA samples have been taken. 1303 00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:57,145 200 witnesses are expected to be called, 1304 00:59:57,179 --> 01:00:00,424 with 10,000 pages of interview transcripts, 1305 01:00:00,458 --> 01:00:04,670 110 gigabytes of prosecution disclosures, 1306 01:00:04,704 --> 01:00:06,982 a million pages of evidence. 1307 01:00:07,017 --> 01:00:09,053 The DNA and fiber evidence alone 1308 01:00:09,088 --> 01:00:12,160 is said to be over 60,000 pages long. 1309 01:00:12,194 --> 01:00:20,099 ♪♪ 1310 01:00:20,133 --> 01:00:25,242 ♪♪ 1311 01:00:25,276 --> 01:00:30,385 ♪♪ 1312 01:00:30,419 --> 01:00:33,906 In a 14-month period, three bright, 1313 01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:38,807 beautiful young women vanished from the streets of Claremont. 1314 01:00:38,842 --> 01:00:42,224 There were so many questions for which the lack of answers 1315 01:00:42,259 --> 01:00:46,366 cemented a fear that ran through the community, 1316 01:00:46,401 --> 01:00:51,061 a fear that was caused by an enigma of the dark. 1317 01:00:52,925 --> 01:00:57,792 In the coming months, the state will demystify this enigma 1318 01:00:57,826 --> 01:01:00,933 and prove that there was one killer. 1319 01:01:00,967 --> 01:01:05,316 And that killer is Bradley Robert Edwards. 1320 01:01:06,421 --> 01:01:10,183 The deaths of these young women were unlawful killings. 1321 01:01:10,218 --> 01:01:12,772 There is no doubt or dispute about that. 1322 01:01:12,807 --> 01:01:15,533 The issue is the identity of the killer, 1323 01:01:15,568 --> 01:01:20,021 and Bradley Edwards' defense in each case is that. 1324 01:01:20,055 --> 01:01:21,401 It wasn't him. 1325 01:01:21,436 --> 01:01:26,993 ♪♪ 1326 01:01:27,028 --> 01:01:32,447 ♪♪ 1327 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,347 Woman: We were happy in the marriage at first. 1328 01:01:36,382 --> 01:01:40,248 Um, but then he became obsessed with his computer. 1329 01:01:40,282 --> 01:01:43,734 So, yeah, he would come home from work and disappear 1330 01:01:43,769 --> 01:01:47,738 into the spare room. He wasn't interested in me 1331 01:01:47,773 --> 01:01:50,914 and he wasn't present in the marriage, 1332 01:01:50,948 --> 01:01:52,916 and stuff happened. 1333 01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:55,435 Oh! [Giggles] 1334 01:01:55,470 --> 01:01:59,888 We were laughing and then she kissed me. 1335 01:01:59,923 --> 01:02:03,927 Or I kissed her. I-I can't remember. 1336 01:02:03,961 --> 01:02:08,379 He didn't say anything. He just...walked away. 1337 01:02:08,414 --> 01:02:11,969 ♪♪ 1338 01:02:12,004 --> 01:02:15,904 You are one of what has become known as the "Living Witnesses." 1339 01:02:15,939 --> 01:02:17,319 Yeah. 1340 01:02:17,354 --> 01:02:20,840 And what happened to you in November of 1996? 1341 01:02:20,875 --> 01:02:25,534 I'd been at Club Bayview. I'd had a bit to drink. 1342 01:02:25,569 --> 01:02:27,847 Um, and there were no cabs, 1343 01:02:27,882 --> 01:02:30,781 but I was trying to get to Shenton Park. 1344 01:02:30,816 --> 01:02:32,921 I didn't care how, you know? 1345 01:02:32,956 --> 01:02:34,198 It was a different time back then. 1346 01:02:34,233 --> 01:02:36,373 We didn't worry about things like that. 1347 01:02:36,407 --> 01:02:39,100 But then I saw a car, and it looked like a taxi, 1348 01:02:39,134 --> 01:02:41,171 and the driver stopped. 1349 01:02:41,205 --> 01:02:44,001 What kind of car was it? 1350 01:02:44,036 --> 01:02:46,348 It looked like a Holden station wagon. 1351 01:02:46,383 --> 01:02:49,006 Can you give me a lift to Shenton Park? 1352 01:02:49,041 --> 01:02:49,593 Bradley: Sure. 1353 01:02:49,627 --> 01:02:52,044 ♪♪ 1354 01:02:52,078 --> 01:02:53,597 [Grunts] 1355 01:02:53,631 --> 01:02:55,875 Oh, hey, this isn't a taxi. 1356 01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:58,291 Oh, that's alright. I'll take you there anyway. 1357 01:02:58,326 --> 01:03:02,986 I didn't feel unsafe, but something made me say 1358 01:03:03,020 --> 01:03:04,470 that I'd left my shoes up on the road... 1359 01:03:04,504 --> 01:03:06,506 and would it be okay if I went to grab them? 1360 01:03:06,541 --> 01:03:09,130 ♪♪ 1361 01:03:09,164 --> 01:03:11,857 So I grabbed my shoes 1362 01:03:11,891 --> 01:03:15,446 and two guys that I'd been drinking with... 1363 01:03:15,481 --> 01:03:17,172 Is it okay if you take these guys, too? 1364 01:03:17,207 --> 01:03:19,312 We're all going to the same place. 1365 01:03:19,347 --> 01:03:21,176 He didn't say anything. 1366 01:03:21,211 --> 01:03:24,904 He just drove us to Shenton Park. 1367 01:03:24,939 --> 01:03:29,012 Did you notice anything about the car? 1368 01:03:29,046 --> 01:03:33,257 It was a Telecom Telstra car. 1369 01:03:33,292 --> 01:03:39,574 ♪♪ 1370 01:03:39,608 --> 01:03:42,646 When the sample labeled AJM40, 1371 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,442 the sample taken from Ciara Glennon's nail, 1372 01:03:45,476 --> 01:03:49,135 was finally tested, did you recover male DNA from it? 1373 01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:51,448 Yes, we did.What was the result? 1374 01:03:51,482 --> 01:03:55,245 The DNA matched the profile of the defendant, Bradley Edwards. 1375 01:03:57,523 --> 01:04:01,596 To clarify, when sample AJM40 was originally taken, 1376 01:04:01,630 --> 01:04:04,150 how was it labeled? 1377 01:04:04,185 --> 01:04:07,050 What was written on the label of the container in 1997? 1378 01:04:07,084 --> 01:04:11,261 Uh, "Debris only. Not suitable for analysis." 1379 01:04:11,295 --> 01:04:12,987 Not suitable for analysis. 1380 01:04:13,021 --> 01:04:15,058 And yet more than 10 years later, 1381 01:04:15,092 --> 01:04:17,543 somehow miraculously it's suitable for testing. 1382 01:04:17,577 --> 01:04:19,062 Not miraculously. 1383 01:04:19,096 --> 01:04:21,029 The advancements in DNA technology in the past... 1384 01:04:21,064 --> 01:04:24,101 But at the time, when it was first handled, 1385 01:04:24,136 --> 01:04:26,000 it was labeled "Debris only." 1386 01:04:30,038 --> 01:04:31,384 Have you considered the possibility 1387 01:04:31,419 --> 01:04:33,593 of cross-contamination in your lab, 1388 01:04:33,628 --> 01:04:36,217 where a bit of DNA gets somewhere that it shouldn't? 1389 01:04:36,251 --> 01:04:38,046 Perhaps the right protocols aren't being used 1390 01:04:38,081 --> 01:04:39,530 and perhaps the same pair of gloves 1391 01:04:39,565 --> 01:04:41,463 are being worn for two experiments. 1392 01:04:41,498 --> 01:04:43,155 Of course we consider it, 1393 01:04:43,189 --> 01:04:46,434 and we take all necessary precautions to make sure 1394 01:04:46,468 --> 01:04:48,608 contamination doesn't happen, but in this case... 1395 01:04:48,643 --> 01:04:51,715 Doesn't PathWest have a poor record of cross-contamination? 1396 01:04:51,749 --> 01:04:53,959 I would say, of the hundreds and thousands of tests, 1397 01:04:53,993 --> 01:04:55,477 we have a very good record of... 1398 01:04:55,512 --> 01:04:58,101 When intimate swabs collected from Jane Rimmer 1399 01:04:58,135 --> 01:05:03,002 were analyzed in 2017 by UK laboratory Cellmark, 1400 01:05:03,037 --> 01:05:05,625 did they show the DNA profile matching that of a male -- 1401 01:05:05,660 --> 01:05:08,421 not you, sir -- PathWest scientist? 1402 01:05:08,456 --> 01:05:10,389 Yes, they did.When intimate swabs 1403 01:05:10,423 --> 01:05:14,255 collected from Ciara Glennon were analyzed in 2017, 1404 01:05:14,289 --> 01:05:17,534 did they yield the profile of yet another -- not you, sir -- 1405 01:05:17,568 --> 01:05:19,363 PathWest scientist? 1406 01:05:21,814 --> 01:05:23,574 Yes. 1407 01:05:23,609 --> 01:05:26,370 And we've all seen videos collected from the crime scene. 1408 01:05:26,405 --> 01:05:28,786 Police officers not wearing gloves. 1409 01:05:28,821 --> 01:05:32,376 No shoe protection. No forensic overalls. 1410 01:05:32,411 --> 01:05:34,206 It was a different time. 1411 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,416 Indeed it was. 1412 01:05:37,450 --> 01:05:39,383 When Mr. Edwards was employed at Telstra, 1413 01:05:39,418 --> 01:05:41,730 was he ever called to PathWest to repair the phones? 1414 01:05:41,765 --> 01:05:46,804 ♪♪ 1415 01:05:46,839 --> 01:05:50,981 Not -- Not to my knowledge, no. 1416 01:05:51,016 --> 01:05:54,812 Not to your knowledge. 1417 01:05:54,847 --> 01:05:56,297 There were bombshells in court today, 1418 01:05:56,331 --> 01:05:57,574 where cross-contamination claims 1419 01:05:57,608 --> 01:05:59,610 had the prosecution on their heels. 1420 01:05:59,645 --> 01:06:02,061 The verdict in this case seems to be in the balance. 1421 01:06:02,096 --> 01:06:04,684 Hey, what's all this rubbish you're broadcasting about? 1422 01:06:04,719 --> 01:06:07,411 Do you really believe there's cross-contamination of his DNA? 1423 01:06:07,446 --> 01:06:08,516 I'm just reporting what was said. 1424 01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:10,449 He murdered three women. 1425 01:06:10,483 --> 01:06:11,829 Are you trying to help get him off? 1426 01:06:11,864 --> 01:06:13,659 I'm just reporting what was said in court. 1427 01:06:13,693 --> 01:06:18,250 Listen, people don't want to speak to you anymore, okay? 1428 01:06:18,284 --> 01:06:19,320 They're fuckin' pissed off. 1429 01:06:19,354 --> 01:06:21,287 You heard the evidence. 1430 01:06:21,322 --> 01:06:23,565 Edwards might be acquitted. 1431 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,740 Everyone needs to be prepared for that. 1432 01:06:30,158 --> 01:06:33,023 Judge: Mr. Yovich, the State has closed. 1433 01:06:33,058 --> 01:06:35,750 Is the defense ready to proceed? 1434 01:06:35,784 --> 01:06:37,752 Your Honor, the defense is closed. 1435 01:06:37,786 --> 01:06:40,099 What? You're not going to be calling any witnesses? 1436 01:06:40,134 --> 01:06:41,618 No, Your Honor, 1437 01:06:41,652 --> 01:06:44,793 we will address the case in our closing statement. 1438 01:06:44,828 --> 01:06:47,072 Mr. Edwards, can you please stand? 1439 01:06:47,106 --> 01:06:51,455 ♪♪ 1440 01:06:51,490 --> 01:06:53,871 The decision to give evidence is entirely yours, 1441 01:06:53,906 --> 01:06:55,735 but given the importance of this case, 1442 01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:59,463 do you wish to make any statement in your own defense? 1443 01:06:59,498 --> 01:07:01,224 No, Your Honor. 1444 01:07:01,258 --> 01:07:06,781 ♪♪ 1445 01:07:06,815 --> 01:07:08,610 Nearly seven months ago, the State 1446 01:07:08,645 --> 01:07:12,131 made reference to an enigma of the dark 1447 01:07:12,166 --> 01:07:15,238 and promised to shed light on that enigma. 1448 01:07:15,272 --> 01:07:18,310 It's the forensic evidence that has cast light 1449 01:07:18,344 --> 01:07:20,208 and unmasked a killer. 1450 01:07:20,243 --> 01:07:24,281 The fibers, the DNA. 1451 01:07:24,316 --> 01:07:30,080 One offender is responsible for the murders of Sarah Spiers, 1452 01:07:30,115 --> 01:07:33,325 Jane Rimmer, and Ciara Glennon. 1453 01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:39,572 Bradley Robert Edwards, we say, is the Claremont killer. 1454 01:07:39,607 --> 01:07:44,508 One-fifth of one-billionth of one gram. 1455 01:07:44,543 --> 01:07:48,788 That's how much DNA was found on Ciara Glennon's nail. 1456 01:07:48,823 --> 01:07:50,652 Your Honor, are you able to be satisfied, 1457 01:07:50,687 --> 01:07:52,516 beyond reasonable doubt, 1458 01:07:52,551 --> 01:07:54,898 the DNA finding is only explicable on the basis 1459 01:07:54,932 --> 01:07:58,350 that the accused killed Ciara Glennon? 1460 01:07:58,384 --> 01:08:01,456 Contamination events are rare, but they do happen, 1461 01:08:01,491 --> 01:08:04,390 and they only have to happen once. 1462 01:08:04,425 --> 01:08:06,289 The carpet fibers, the pant fibers, 1463 01:08:06,323 --> 01:08:09,119 they could come from any Telstra employee. 1464 01:08:09,154 --> 01:08:11,156 The only actual evidence that my client 1465 01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:12,674 might be the Claremont killer 1466 01:08:12,709 --> 01:08:16,506 is the DNA that was found on Ciara Glennon's nail. 1467 01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:19,750 Are you willing, Your Honor, to put a man in jail 1468 01:08:19,785 --> 01:08:23,892 for the rest of his life on that evidence? 1469 01:08:23,927 --> 01:08:28,138 One-fifth of one-billionth of one gram. 1470 01:08:28,173 --> 01:08:30,313 [Suspenseful music plays] 1471 01:08:30,347 --> 01:08:36,802 ♪♪ 1472 01:08:36,836 --> 01:08:40,150 ♪♪ 1473 01:08:46,536 --> 01:08:49,366 ♪♪ 1474 01:08:49,401 --> 01:08:58,824 ♪♪ 1475 01:08:58,858 --> 01:09:08,420 ♪♪ 1476 01:09:08,454 --> 01:09:17,912 ♪♪ 1477 01:09:17,946 --> 01:09:27,508 ♪♪ 1478 01:09:27,542 --> 01:09:28,957 [Cellphone rings] 1479 01:09:28,992 --> 01:09:30,545 [Sighs] 1480 01:09:34,446 --> 01:09:35,826 Wyatt. 1481 01:09:35,861 --> 01:09:39,002 Carmel: Hello, Gavin. The verdict's in. 1482 01:09:39,036 --> 01:09:40,314 Do you know what it says? 1483 01:09:40,348 --> 01:09:43,213 No. Just get to the court. 1484 01:09:43,248 --> 01:09:44,732 ♪♪ 1485 01:09:44,766 --> 01:09:47,597 Reporter: After a 20-year police investigation 1486 01:09:47,631 --> 01:09:50,462 and subsequent seven-month Supreme Court trial, 1487 01:09:50,496 --> 01:09:51,980 we'll finally get a verdict... 1488 01:09:52,015 --> 01:09:54,224 Reporter #2: The Claremont serial killings trial... 1489 01:09:54,259 --> 01:09:56,640 Onlookers came here earlier today, 1490 01:09:56,675 --> 01:09:58,021 queuing up on the steps... 1491 01:09:58,055 --> 01:09:59,264 ♪♪ 1492 01:09:59,298 --> 01:10:03,509 This is a trial like no other. 1493 01:10:03,544 --> 01:10:05,408 It's a trial like no other because of its size 1494 01:10:05,442 --> 01:10:07,272 and high degree of interest. 1495 01:10:09,515 --> 01:10:13,588 Three women went missing from a popular nightlife area 1496 01:10:13,623 --> 01:10:15,452 frequented by many young people. 1497 01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:20,492 It inspired a pervasive fear in the entire Perth community. 1498 01:10:20,526 --> 01:10:22,770 But it's a trial like every other, 1499 01:10:22,804 --> 01:10:26,429 because the accused is presumed innocent 1500 01:10:26,463 --> 01:10:30,260 and the State must prove its case beyond reasonable doubt. 1501 01:10:30,295 --> 01:10:32,607 I am satisfied that the evidence 1502 01:10:32,642 --> 01:10:37,336 establishes that each of the victims was abducted and killed. 1503 01:10:37,371 --> 01:10:40,028 The issue, therefore, is the identity of the killer, 1504 01:10:40,063 --> 01:10:41,478 or killers. 1505 01:10:41,513 --> 01:10:43,687 Having regard to the DNA evidence 1506 01:10:43,722 --> 01:10:46,483 and the propensity evidence, 1507 01:10:46,518 --> 01:10:48,968 I am satisfied beyond reasonable doubt 1508 01:10:49,003 --> 01:10:51,039 that Bradley Edwards was the killer 1509 01:10:51,074 --> 01:10:55,561 of Ms. Rimmer and Ms. Glennon. 1510 01:10:55,596 --> 01:10:58,978 Mr. Edwards chose semi-rural locations 1511 01:10:59,013 --> 01:11:01,049 and hid the bodies with the intention of minimizing 1512 01:11:01,084 --> 01:11:03,845 the chances of them being found 1513 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,675 and his offenses being discovered. 1514 01:11:05,709 --> 01:11:08,988 ♪♪ 1515 01:11:09,023 --> 01:11:10,542 In respect of Ms. Spiers, 1516 01:11:10,576 --> 01:11:14,615 I have reached the following conclusions. 1517 01:11:14,649 --> 01:11:16,410 There are some similarities 1518 01:11:16,444 --> 01:11:19,827 between the circumstances of Ms. Spiers' disappearance 1519 01:11:19,861 --> 01:11:22,761 and the death of Ms. Rimmer and Ms. Glennon. 1520 01:11:22,795 --> 01:11:26,661 But they do not allow for a conclusion to be reached 1521 01:11:26,696 --> 01:11:28,353 that the person responsible 1522 01:11:28,387 --> 01:11:30,976 for the killing of Ms. Glennon and Ms. Rimmer 1523 01:11:31,010 --> 01:11:36,015 must necessarily be the same person as who killed Ms. Spiers. 1524 01:11:36,050 --> 01:11:37,741 The propensity of evidence suggests 1525 01:11:37,776 --> 01:11:42,608 it is likely that the accused was the killer. 1526 01:11:42,643 --> 01:11:47,164 But it cannot be proved beyond reasonable doubt. 1527 01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:49,960 So, based on those findings, 1528 01:11:49,995 --> 01:11:51,721 the verdict must be... 1529 01:11:51,755 --> 01:11:53,654 on count six, 1530 01:11:53,688 --> 01:11:56,691 the willful murder of Sarah Spiers -- 1531 01:11:56,726 --> 01:11:57,899 not guilty. 1532 01:11:57,934 --> 01:12:06,598 ♪♪ 1533 01:12:06,632 --> 01:12:15,123 ♪♪ 1534 01:12:15,158 --> 01:12:23,787 ♪♪ 1535 01:12:23,822 --> 01:12:30,794 ♪♪ 1536 01:12:30,829 --> 01:12:37,801 ♪♪ 1537 01:12:37,836 --> 01:12:44,808 ♪♪ 1538 01:12:44,843 --> 01:12:52,782 ♪♪ 1539 01:12:52,816 --> 01:13:00,755 ♪♪ 1540 01:13:00,790 --> 01:13:08,729 ♪♪ 1541 01:13:08,763 --> 01:13:10,834 [No audio] 1542 01:13:10,869 --> 01:13:19,947 ♪♪ 1543 01:13:19,981 --> 01:13:22,467 Denis: We pray for Ciara all the time. 1544 01:13:22,501 --> 01:13:26,091 Whenever Una and I see a young woman of Ciara's age, 1545 01:13:26,125 --> 01:13:28,265 well, we think of her still. 1546 01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:32,200 I always said that Ciara... 1547 01:13:32,235 --> 01:13:33,892 Ciara would fight for her life. 1548 01:13:33,926 --> 01:13:37,689 Little did I know how -- well, how... 1549 01:13:37,723 --> 01:13:39,967 prophetic those words would be. 1550 01:13:40,001 --> 01:13:49,528 ♪♪ 1551 01:13:49,563 --> 01:13:59,296 ♪♪ 1552 01:13:59,331 --> 01:14:09,203 ♪♪ 1553 01:14:09,237 --> 01:14:12,793 It's hard to understand. 1554 01:14:12,827 --> 01:14:16,210 We interviewed 16,000 men 1555 01:14:16,244 --> 01:14:18,488 and his name never came up. 1556 01:14:18,523 --> 01:14:20,870 ♪♪ 1557 01:14:20,904 --> 01:14:23,251 He was never on our radar. 1558 01:14:23,286 --> 01:14:25,115 ♪♪ 1559 01:14:25,150 --> 01:14:28,774 And it's hard not to wonder 1560 01:14:28,809 --> 01:14:31,743 what Sarah's life...and ours would be like 1561 01:14:31,777 --> 01:14:34,297 if she hadn't been taken from us. 1562 01:14:35,781 --> 01:14:39,682 She would have had kids. 1563 01:14:39,716 --> 01:14:43,202 You say something, love? 1564 01:14:43,237 --> 01:14:45,204 Sarah loved kids. 1565 01:14:57,803 --> 01:15:01,048 This isn't over. 1566 01:15:01,082 --> 01:15:03,222 We'll keep looking for her. 1567 01:15:07,054 --> 01:15:10,713 Thanks for everything you've done for us, Detective. 1568 01:15:10,747 --> 01:15:12,784 You treated us right. 1569 01:15:12,818 --> 01:15:19,135 ♪♪ 1570 01:15:19,169 --> 01:15:23,380 ♪♪ 1571 01:15:23,415 --> 01:15:33,149 ♪♪ 1572 01:15:33,183 --> 01:15:42,883 ♪♪ 1573 01:15:42,917 --> 01:15:51,650 ♪♪ 1574 01:15:51,685 --> 01:15:56,690 ♪♪ 1575 01:15:56,724 --> 01:16:01,695 ♪♪ 1576 01:16:01,729 --> 01:16:10,324 ♪♪ 1577 01:16:10,358 --> 01:16:19,747 ♪♪ 1578 01:16:19,782 --> 01:16:28,273 ♪♪ 1579 01:16:28,307 --> 01:16:35,694 ♪♪ 1580 01:16:35,729 --> 01:16:43,909 ♪♪ 1581 01:16:43,944 --> 01:16:53,125 ♪♪ 1582 01:16:53,160 --> 01:17:02,341 ♪♪ 1583 01:17:02,376 --> 01:17:04,654 [Women vocalizing] 1584 01:17:04,689 --> 01:17:11,696 ♪♪ 1585 01:17:11,730 --> 01:17:21,740 ♪♪ 1586 01:17:39,378 --> 01:17:48,698 ♪♪ 1587 01:17:48,733 --> 01:17:57,949 ♪♪ 1588 01:17:57,983 --> 01:18:07,234 ♪♪ 106804

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