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Man: ...between your neck
and cheek.
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And then use your body weight
to really lob it forward.
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And then just push forward,
okay?
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Give it a go.
That's easy enough. Alright.
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Back?
That's it.
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Oh, wow!
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[Laughs]
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This is, like, day one.
That was amazing.
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Alison: Luckily, the pesky pooch
was found unharmed.
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Hopefully he learnt a valuable
lesson, along with his owners.
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Alison Fan, 7 Nightly News.
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[Knock on door]
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Mum?
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Hey!
Hey.
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What are you doing here?
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I finished early.
Are we still on for dinner?
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Oh, you bet.
Um, I'll just finish up here.
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Are you still getting wine?
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Yeah, sure. What sort?
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As long as I'm doing stories
about lost dogs,
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any wine is good wine.
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I thought you might
be back on Claremont.
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Why?
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I heard a rumor.
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It all seemed
pretty hush-hush,
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but it sounded like
there's a team back on it.
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Huh.
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[Vehicle door opens]
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What the hell
are you doing out here?
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Took me three days
to find you.
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Why are you looking?
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[Sighs]
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Cold Case Squad
has reopened Claremont.
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There's no one
from Macro.
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Apparently they're
the new breed.
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They've all got
forensic training.
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And why are you telling me?
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Don't you want in?
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I spent six years
on Claremont.
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Look where it got me.
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Don't you wanna findthe guy?[Coo moos]
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I mean, are you really happy
out here with all the cows?
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Sarah Spiers
is still missing.
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I'm sorry.
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[Vehicle door opens, closes]
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[Engine starts]
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Hi.
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Mosman Park?
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[Engine revs]
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[Engine revving]
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[Women vocalizing]
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Okay.
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- Who's this?
- He insisted on being let in.
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Gavin Wyatt.
He's driven in from...
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I worked
on the original Macro team.
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I want to join you.
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I'm sorry.I know everything
about this case.
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Yeah, that's the problem.
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We're starting with a clean
slate, out of the public eye.
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Okay, well, maybe I can
help short-cut stuff.
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Instead of having to re-read
everything, I can tell you.
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I'm sorry. It's --
It's not gonna work.
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Alison Fan found me
way out in the country.
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It's only a matter of time
before she finds out
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what you're doing.
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You're obviously doing this
on the quiet.
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Do the bosses know
you've reopened the case?
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Well, it's a cold case.
We're allowed to reopen...
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Yeah, but I bet they don't know
you've reopened
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this particular can
of worms.
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The most famous
unsolved murder case
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in West Australian history.
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And I bet there'd be
a few noses out of joint
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if the old Macro hierarchy
finds out
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you're questioning
their approach.
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Maybe he can explain
the fire poker.
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Dave: Why was Macro so sure
that Lance Williams' poker
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was the murder weapon?
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Well, once I noticed it
missing from Lance's flat,
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we bought an identical poker
and sent it to London.
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A pathologist
at the Royal College
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confirmed the poker fitted
the wound to Ciara's skull.
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Yeah, he was wrong.
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We found Lance's poker.
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Where?Queensland.
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Well, Lance has never been
to Queensland.Exactly.
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We tracked down the woman
who sold the flat to Lance.
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She meant to leave the whole
set behind with the fireplace,
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but somehow the poker was
packed up by the removalists.
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You guys
never followed this up?
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It fitted so perfectly.
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It made sense that she was...
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Alright, well, hang on a sec.
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What caused the wound
to Ciara's head, then?
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Wasn't a wound.
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You know, everyone assumes
Claremont was my worst case.
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My worst case was
a Christmas Day murder.
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There was blood everywhere.
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Over presents, the manger.
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That indentation?
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She was hit over
the back of the head.
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No, she wasn't.
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I was wrong.
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This is a Wormian bone.
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What's a Wormian bone?
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It's a naturally occurring
skull formation
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that can look like
a fracture.
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And no one noticed this
until now?
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Well, once the poker was
dismissed as a murder weapon,
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we asked the pathologist
to review her findings.
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She called in
an anthropologist.
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And that means what exactly?
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Lance Williams is not
the Claremont serial killer.
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He has to be.
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Okay, he was out on the street
every night, stalking girls.
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He fits every profile.
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A loner. The prostitutes.
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He failed
the lie detector test.
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There is not
one shred of evidence
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that connects Lance
to the murders.
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There's no blood in his house,
on his car, on his clothes.
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No fibers, no hair.
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Nikki: And none of his DNA
was found
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anywhere
at the crime scenes.
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Then why did
the crimes stop?
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The second we started
following Lance, they stopped.
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No more girls were taken.
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If I was a serial killer
and I knew the police
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had a suspect...
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dumbest thing I can do
is kill again.
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[Sighs]
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You still wanna work
with us?
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[Indistinct conversations]
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[Rock music plays]
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Are you sure
you want back in
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if they're just gonna pour shit
on everything we did?
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They're smart, Bobbi.
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Dave's DNA-trained,
and Nikki's a fiber expert.
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They've thrown out
the suspect book.
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It's all about the evidence.
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You're gonna solve
Australia's biggest cold case
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with three detectives?
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Sorry. Now it sounds like
I'mthe one pouring shit.
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[Breathes deeply]
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I hope you find him.
I really do.
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You miss it, don't you?
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Unh-unh, unh-unh.
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I've moved on.
Corporate's good.
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It is.
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Some things...
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...maybe it's easier
to leave them behind.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna find him,
Bobbi.
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Even if it kills me.
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Make sure it doesn't.
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Ciara's missing thumbnail
and middle finger.
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I remember.
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All that's left where the nail
was are three red dots.
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Yeah, blood.
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So she's clawing at him
so hard her nail has ripped off.
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You'd think she'd have
to scrape some of his skin.
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Yeah, but the nail was never
found at the crime scene.
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Caught in his clothes,
fell off somewhere else?
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Was any of
the remaining nail tested?
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Yes, we tested everything,
and I mean everything.
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Every jar,
every scrap of nail.
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Some went to New Zealand,
some to the FBI.
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We tested every single one
of these.
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- There's nothing else.
- What about AJM40?
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It doesn't appear
on any of the test results.
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AJM...40.
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Uh, AJM40.
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Let's see here.
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Aha! That's why.
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"Debris only.
Not suitable for analysis."
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Why not?
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Well, because at the time,
there wasn't enough
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in there to test.
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I think there might be
enough now.
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For his services
to Little Athletics,
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Bradley Edwards.
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[Applause]Woman: Well done.
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Man:
You did a good job.
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♪♪
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[Camera shutters clicking]
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London lab called.
It worked.
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[Fax machine beeps]
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Fax coming through now.
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They extracted
two DNA sets.
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The first belonged
to Ciara...
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the other
to an unknown male.
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[Applause]
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[Camera shutter clicks]
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We've got his DNA. We've got
the Claremont killer's DNA.
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[Camera shutter clicking]
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[Screaming]
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[Man speaking indistinctly
on TV]
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Can we have a word
with Lance, please?
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Man on TV:
...winning a brand-new car.
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When is this gonna stop?
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He's only
just out of hospital.
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Depression, anxiety.
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Huh! No wonder.
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Mr. Williams.
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Uh, we wanted to tell you
officially that you're no longer
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a person of interest
in the Claremont matter.
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What does that mean?
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You won't be hearing
from us anymore.
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I'm sorry.
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[Chime]Roger.
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You were only doing your job.
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Question four.
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[Speaking indistinctly]
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[Chime]Jeffrey.
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Jeffrey: Pacific Ocean.
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[Buzzer]No.
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The correct answer isthe Indian Ocean.
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Question five.
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In which country would you findthe Sphinx?
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[Chime]
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The DNA
isn't Lance Williams'.
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It's from
the Karrakatta rapist.
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What?
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We tested the DNA against all
the original major suspects --
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the mayor, Steve Ross.
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Nothing.
272
00:12:13,836 --> 00:12:15,527
And then I remembered
your case.
273
00:12:15,562 --> 00:12:17,081
Lisa. Karrakatta.
274
00:12:17,115 --> 00:12:18,289
And it matched?
275
00:12:18,323 --> 00:12:20,843
Well, it matched
Unknown Male #4.
276
00:12:20,878 --> 00:12:22,293
[Sighs]
277
00:12:22,327 --> 00:12:24,364
You were right, Bobbi --
Lisa was raped by the man
278
00:12:24,398 --> 00:12:26,953
who went on to become
the Claremont serial killer.Oh.
279
00:12:26,987 --> 00:12:29,818
I need you to come back in.
280
00:12:29,852 --> 00:12:31,302
Come on.
Just to talk to them, okay?
281
00:12:31,336 --> 00:12:32,544
You know
this case backwards.
282
00:12:32,579 --> 00:12:34,305
You can tell them
better than me.
283
00:12:34,339 --> 00:12:36,134
No way. I'm out.
I told you.
284
00:12:36,169 --> 00:12:38,136
This time, we are doing
everything by the book,
285
00:12:38,171 --> 00:12:40,035
and when we catch this guy,
286
00:12:40,069 --> 00:12:41,484
we're gonna need you
as a witness to present
287
00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:44,039
the statement you took
from Lisa in '96.
288
00:12:47,352 --> 00:12:49,941
Her name was Lisa Todd.
She was 17.
289
00:12:49,976 --> 00:12:51,287
A year before Sarah
went missing,
290
00:12:51,322 --> 00:12:53,048
she was partying in Claremont.
291
00:12:53,082 --> 00:12:55,982
On her way home,
she was grabbed from Rowe Park.
292
00:12:56,016 --> 00:12:59,502
She was taken to
Karrakatta Cemetery and raped.
293
00:12:59,537 --> 00:13:02,471
But the rape kit didn't match
anyone on file at the time.
294
00:13:02,505 --> 00:13:04,128
So this Unknown Male #4 --
295
00:13:04,162 --> 00:13:06,164
Macro was onto him
as a suspect for Claremont.
296
00:13:06,199 --> 00:13:08,546
- What happened?
- Well, Lisa was a blitz attack.
297
00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:12,515
It was thought all three girls
willingly got into vehicles.
298
00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:15,242
Bobbi: These are the shorts
she was wearing.
299
00:13:15,277 --> 00:13:18,176
Her T-shirt,
underwear, shoes.
300
00:13:18,211 --> 00:13:21,007
And this is the cord
he used to tie her.
301
00:13:21,041 --> 00:13:23,388
But we could never find any
evidence the Claremont killer
302
00:13:23,423 --> 00:13:26,875
tied up any of the three girls,
or attacked them from behind.
303
00:13:26,909 --> 00:13:28,635
♪♪
304
00:13:28,669 --> 00:13:30,913
What?
305
00:13:30,948 --> 00:13:33,951
We've gone back over
Jane's postmortem photographs.
306
00:13:33,985 --> 00:13:35,331
There's a mark on her wrist
307
00:13:35,366 --> 00:13:36,988
that suggests
she might have been tied up.
308
00:13:37,023 --> 00:13:38,990
But if the girls got into
the vehicle voluntarily,
309
00:13:39,025 --> 00:13:40,923
when did he tie them?
How would that work?
310
00:13:40,958 --> 00:13:42,925
We found other witnesses.
311
00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,651
Girls who accepted lifts
around the same time
312
00:13:44,685 --> 00:13:45,686
and had close calls.
313
00:13:45,721 --> 00:13:47,930
This one, Katrina Jones.
314
00:13:47,965 --> 00:13:49,967
Late 1995.
She'd been at a wedding.
315
00:13:50,001 --> 00:13:52,417
At 2:30 in the morning,
she was trying to get a lift.
316
00:13:52,452 --> 00:13:53,660
Bradley: You okay?
317
00:13:53,694 --> 00:13:55,869
No.
As a matter of fact, I'm not.
318
00:13:55,904 --> 00:13:58,009
He offered her a lift.
She said he seemed nice.
319
00:13:58,044 --> 00:13:59,390
Thanks so much.
320
00:13:59,424 --> 00:14:01,047
Nikki: She asked
what he did for a living.
321
00:14:01,081 --> 00:14:03,290
He said he was a Telstra worker,
like her brother.
322
00:14:03,325 --> 00:14:04,671
Dave: That's when
things went wrong.
323
00:14:04,705 --> 00:14:06,190
Nikki: Yeah, she said
she picked up vibes.
324
00:14:06,224 --> 00:14:07,881
She must have sensed
something was wrong
325
00:14:07,916 --> 00:14:09,262
because she got him
to drop her off five houses
326
00:14:09,296 --> 00:14:11,264
back from her car.
327
00:14:11,298 --> 00:14:14,923
Next minute,
he was behind her.
328
00:14:14,957 --> 00:14:16,614
[Gasping]
329
00:14:16,648 --> 00:14:19,928
[Screaming]
330
00:14:19,962 --> 00:14:22,482
It's exactly
what happened to Lisa.
331
00:14:22,516 --> 00:14:25,071
She'd already told him she was
a blue belt in tae kwon do.
332
00:14:25,105 --> 00:14:26,313
He backed off.
333
00:14:26,348 --> 00:14:28,177
She tried to get
his number plate,
334
00:14:28,212 --> 00:14:29,627
but all she had to write with
was lipstick, so --
335
00:14:29,661 --> 00:14:31,491
- So when was this?
- Late '95.
336
00:14:31,525 --> 00:14:34,287
So after Karrakatta,
but before Sarah.
337
00:14:34,321 --> 00:14:36,013
So that's what
happened to Sarah.
338
00:14:36,047 --> 00:14:38,394
He actually drove her
to Mosman Park and let her out.
339
00:14:38,429 --> 00:14:40,569
Then he came up behind her.
340
00:14:40,603 --> 00:14:41,915
So these witnesses...
341
00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:43,641
they all got into
a Telstra vehicle?
342
00:14:43,675 --> 00:14:46,092
Or a white vehicle
consistent with that.
343
00:14:46,126 --> 00:14:48,059
We're calling them
the Telstra Living Witnesses.
344
00:14:48,094 --> 00:14:51,373
But after Karrakatta, we asked
Telstra for a list of drivers.
345
00:14:51,407 --> 00:14:52,995
We checked every single one.
346
00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:55,066
In '95, Telstra logos
347
00:14:55,101 --> 00:14:57,206
were being changed over
from the old Telecom.
348
00:14:57,241 --> 00:14:59,657
Macro asked for Telstra drivers.
That's what you got.
349
00:14:59,691 --> 00:15:01,659
If the killer was still
driving a Telecom vehicle,
350
00:15:01,693 --> 00:15:03,661
- he missed the net.
- [Scoffs]
351
00:15:03,695 --> 00:15:05,180
♪♪
352
00:15:05,214 --> 00:15:08,252
That is...
353
00:15:08,286 --> 00:15:09,736
unbelievable.
354
00:15:09,770 --> 00:15:13,636
♪♪
355
00:15:13,671 --> 00:15:16,501
But the problem then
is the problem now.
356
00:15:16,536 --> 00:15:18,710
The Karrakatta rape
was unsolved.
357
00:15:18,745 --> 00:15:21,196
How do we identify
Unknown Male #4?
358
00:15:21,230 --> 00:15:23,612
Well, for starters, we're asking
for a list of Telecom drivers
359
00:15:23,646 --> 00:15:25,579
from the '90s,
but that could take some time.
360
00:15:25,614 --> 00:15:27,409
So we're also running
his sample
361
00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:29,583
against
every single piece of DNA
362
00:15:29,618 --> 00:15:31,206
that Macro ever collected.
363
00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,071
We DNA-tested
9,000 local men.
364
00:15:34,105 --> 00:15:37,005
Plus over 2,000 taxi drivers
and their cars.
365
00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:39,455
Yeah, so don't
hold your breath.
366
00:15:39,490 --> 00:15:41,561
♪♪
367
00:15:41,595 --> 00:15:44,495
Gavin.
Ah.
368
00:15:44,529 --> 00:15:46,566
What happened to that update
you promised me?
369
00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,774
We're still working on it.
370
00:15:47,808 --> 00:15:50,466
Do you have anything?
371
00:15:50,501 --> 00:15:52,744
Come on, Gav. I could run
with this any time.
372
00:15:52,779 --> 00:15:55,092
"Cold Case Unit
secretly reopens Claremont."
373
00:15:55,126 --> 00:15:56,783
It's a great story
for me.
374
00:15:56,817 --> 00:15:58,681
It's one night.
375
00:15:58,716 --> 00:16:01,098
If you hold off, I'll give you
the biggest story of the year.
376
00:16:01,132 --> 00:16:03,652
When? Gav?
377
00:16:03,686 --> 00:16:06,241
You know, Sarah would
have been 38 this year,
378
00:16:06,275 --> 00:16:09,485
and that her dad's still
shearing 10 hours a day...
379
00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:10,831
so he never has to stop
380
00:16:10,866 --> 00:16:13,006
and think about
his missing daughter.
381
00:16:14,766 --> 00:16:22,395
♪♪
382
00:16:22,429 --> 00:16:30,127
♪♪
383
00:16:30,161 --> 00:16:37,686
♪♪
384
00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,481
Don. Carol.
385
00:16:39,515 --> 00:16:43,036
[Sheep bleating]
386
00:16:45,694 --> 00:16:46,764
Sorry.
387
00:16:46,798 --> 00:16:49,456
It's not you.
388
00:16:49,491 --> 00:16:52,459
We've got his DNA.
389
00:16:52,494 --> 00:16:55,221
We've matched him
to a precursor crime.
390
00:16:55,255 --> 00:16:58,293
Now we've just gotta match
his DNA with a name.
391
00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:04,299
You know what I don't get?
392
00:17:04,333 --> 00:17:07,612
Someone out there
knows who it is.
393
00:17:07,647 --> 00:17:09,407
Someone who works
with him.
394
00:17:09,442 --> 00:17:11,685
Someone who gave birth
to him.
395
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,586
♪♪
396
00:17:15,620 --> 00:17:17,450
Do they know?
397
00:17:17,484 --> 00:17:23,628
♪♪
398
00:17:23,663 --> 00:17:29,772
♪♪
399
00:17:29,807 --> 00:17:32,637
[Dialing]
400
00:17:32,672 --> 00:17:35,261
♪♪
401
00:17:35,295 --> 00:17:39,196
[Line ringing]
402
00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:40,542
Alison: Hello?
403
00:17:40,576 --> 00:17:43,855
Alison.
Got a pen and paper?
404
00:17:43,890 --> 00:17:47,411
It's been nearly 20 years since
Sarah Spiers went missing --
405
00:17:47,445 --> 00:17:50,345
the first victim of
the Claremont serial killer.
406
00:17:50,379 --> 00:17:51,587
Or wasshe?
407
00:17:51,622 --> 00:17:53,175
In a sensational breakthrough,
408
00:17:53,210 --> 00:17:54,728
sources close to policehave revealed
409
00:17:54,763 --> 00:17:57,110
they have forensic evidencelinking the man
410
00:17:57,145 --> 00:18:00,355
who murdered Ciara Glennonto an earlier victim.
411
00:18:00,389 --> 00:18:03,185
Her identity remainsa closely guarded secret.
412
00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:05,498
If they've got
the forensic evidence,
413
00:18:05,532 --> 00:18:07,327
why can't
they just arrest him? ...from the streetsof Claremont
414
00:18:07,362 --> 00:18:09,778
and brutally rapedin Karrakatta Cemetery
415
00:18:09,812 --> 00:18:11,952
managed to escape.
416
00:18:11,987 --> 00:18:14,507
They now believe there mayhave been earlier attacks,
417
00:18:14,541 --> 00:18:16,888
what they're calling"precursor crimes."
418
00:18:16,923 --> 00:18:18,787
They're looking for young womenwho were assaulted
419
00:18:18,821 --> 00:18:20,927
in the Claremont areabefore Sarah --
420
00:18:20,961 --> 00:18:22,653
[Remote clicks]
421
00:18:22,687 --> 00:18:25,897
I can give Maddie
a lift if you like.
422
00:18:25,932 --> 00:18:28,279
Ah, yes. Yeah, okay.
423
00:18:28,314 --> 00:18:30,937
Oh, have you thought
more about her 21st?
424
00:18:30,971 --> 00:18:34,423
Well, thinking about it's one
thing, but how do we pay for it?
425
00:18:34,458 --> 00:18:36,667
I don't understand
why we're always so short.
426
00:18:36,701 --> 00:18:38,807
You know, we're both working.
I'm not spending it on anything.
427
00:18:38,841 --> 00:18:40,498
So where's it all going?
428
00:18:40,533 --> 00:18:41,913
[Clears throat]
429
00:18:41,948 --> 00:18:44,295
Hey, Dad, can I grab
a lift to uni today?
430
00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:45,538
Yeah, sure,
but I'm going now.
431
00:18:45,572 --> 00:18:46,780
- Yeah, I'm ready.
- Okay.
432
00:18:46,815 --> 00:18:48,230
See ya, Mum.
433
00:18:48,265 --> 00:18:50,853
Bye.
434
00:18:50,888 --> 00:18:52,338
Brad?
435
00:18:52,372 --> 00:18:55,341
[Door opens]We need to talk about this.
436
00:18:55,375 --> 00:18:56,859
♪♪
437
00:18:56,894 --> 00:18:59,241
♪♪
438
00:18:59,276 --> 00:19:07,974
♪♪
439
00:19:08,008 --> 00:19:10,425
It's in all the papers,
all over the TV.
440
00:19:10,459 --> 00:19:11,874
You've completely
blown our cover.
441
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:13,807
Someone needed to put
a rocket under the case.
442
00:19:13,842 --> 00:19:15,740
This will get us blasted
out of the job.
443
00:19:15,775 --> 00:19:17,811
But now we're actually
getting calls.
444
00:19:17,846 --> 00:19:21,367
Other women who were picked up
in Claremont at the same time.
445
00:19:21,401 --> 00:19:22,851
Crime Stoppers
is getting hammered.
446
00:19:22,885 --> 00:19:24,370
Yeah, and who's gonna process
all the leads
447
00:19:24,404 --> 00:19:27,580
if we get fired, hmm?
448
00:19:27,614 --> 00:19:29,616
[Telephone rings]
449
00:19:35,657 --> 00:19:36,934
Santos.
450
00:19:36,968 --> 00:19:38,453
Yep.
451
00:19:38,487 --> 00:19:40,040
Yep, he's here.
452
00:19:40,075 --> 00:19:41,594
It's the boss.
453
00:19:43,492 --> 00:19:45,391
Medcalf.
454
00:19:45,425 --> 00:19:48,256
Yes, sir.
455
00:19:48,290 --> 00:19:50,430
No, I understand.
456
00:19:50,465 --> 00:19:51,845
Yes.
457
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,504
Yes, I should have
consulted you.
458
00:19:55,539 --> 00:19:57,265
Okay.
459
00:20:01,303 --> 00:20:03,063
Are we fired?
460
00:20:03,098 --> 00:20:05,342
No.
461
00:20:05,376 --> 00:20:07,965
No, he's, uh --
He's giving us more people.
462
00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:12,038
[Chuckles]
463
00:20:12,072 --> 00:20:14,730
[Suspenseful music plays]
464
00:20:14,765 --> 00:20:18,665
♪♪
465
00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:25,396
♪♪
466
00:20:25,431 --> 00:20:28,986
♪♪
467
00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:37,650
♪♪
468
00:20:37,684 --> 00:20:38,823
[No audio]
469
00:20:38,858 --> 00:20:44,277
♪♪
470
00:20:44,312 --> 00:20:49,593
♪♪
471
00:20:49,627 --> 00:20:59,292
♪♪
472
00:20:59,327 --> 00:21:02,019
[Muffled music playing]
473
00:21:02,053 --> 00:21:06,506
♪♪
474
00:21:06,541 --> 00:21:08,128
[Volume increases]
475
00:21:08,163 --> 00:21:11,856
[Muffled talking]
476
00:21:11,891 --> 00:21:18,587
♪♪
477
00:21:18,622 --> 00:21:22,419
[Woman grunts and groanson recording]
478
00:21:22,453 --> 00:21:28,942
♪♪
479
00:21:28,977 --> 00:21:31,082
[Woman groans on recording]
480
00:21:31,117 --> 00:21:37,054
♪♪
481
00:21:37,088 --> 00:21:40,126
♪♪
482
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,510
♪♪
483
00:21:44,544 --> 00:21:54,071
♪♪
484
00:21:54,105 --> 00:21:56,384
♪♪
485
00:21:56,418 --> 00:21:59,594
Thanks.
Thanks, Julie.
486
00:21:59,628 --> 00:22:01,837
We are getting dozens
of calls about Claremont.
487
00:22:01,872 --> 00:22:03,805
- From who?
- Women who accepted lifts
488
00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:05,013
from white cars
in the '90s
489
00:22:05,047 --> 00:22:06,946
and never came forward.Why not?
490
00:22:06,980 --> 00:22:08,775
With all the Lance Williams
talk in the papers,
491
00:22:08,810 --> 00:22:10,432
they thought
you already had the guy.
492
00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:13,055
But, God, it's been so long now,
no one can ID him.
493
00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:14,850
Any news from the DNA tests?
494
00:22:14,885 --> 00:22:16,852
We've checked the sample against
every single piece of DNA
495
00:22:16,887 --> 00:22:19,165
on the West Australian
database -- nothing.
496
00:22:19,199 --> 00:22:21,616
We have to wait
for the international
497
00:22:21,650 --> 00:22:23,031
and national requests now.
498
00:22:23,065 --> 00:22:25,516
That'll take months.
How can we be so close?
499
00:22:25,551 --> 00:22:26,793
We've got his DNA,
for God's sake.
500
00:22:26,828 --> 00:22:28,761
Is there anything else
we can do?
501
00:22:28,795 --> 00:22:32,627
♪♪
502
00:22:32,661 --> 00:22:35,008
We want to test
Jane's hair for fibers.
503
00:22:35,043 --> 00:22:37,528
Jane had been to the hairdresser
the morning before her death,
504
00:22:37,563 --> 00:22:39,599
so any fibers in her hair
can be narrowed down
505
00:22:39,634 --> 00:22:41,187
to having got there
after that.
506
00:22:41,221 --> 00:22:42,982
You're hoping to find something
from the perpetrator?
507
00:22:43,016 --> 00:22:44,432
Well, it's a long shot,
we know,
508
00:22:44,466 --> 00:22:45,812
but the paperwork says
you collected
509
00:22:45,847 --> 00:22:48,436
Jane's entire hair mass
during the postmortem?
510
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:50,507
We've searched Trace.
It's not there, so...
511
00:22:50,541 --> 00:22:54,511
Because I sent it
to Toxicology, not Trace.
512
00:22:54,545 --> 00:22:56,789
At the time,
I wanted to test for drugs.
513
00:22:56,823 --> 00:22:58,584
I thought maybe she'd been
administered something
514
00:22:58,618 --> 00:22:59,964
to knock her out.
515
00:22:59,999 --> 00:23:03,209
- So it's still at Tox?
- As far as I know.
516
00:23:03,243 --> 00:23:05,245
♪♪
517
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,834
Right, what am I looking at?Isn't it obvious?
518
00:23:07,869 --> 00:23:09,871
To someone with a PhD
in fibers, sure.
519
00:23:09,905 --> 00:23:11,459
Let's just pretend
that's not me.
520
00:23:11,493 --> 00:23:15,083
Okay. So this is a fiber
we found in Jane's hair.
521
00:23:15,117 --> 00:23:17,879
The Forensic guys managed
to extract 20 of these.
522
00:23:17,913 --> 00:23:19,156
Do we know what they are?
523
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:20,985
Well, some,
we have no idea.
524
00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:22,573
Fibers you can't match
with anything.
525
00:23:22,608 --> 00:23:25,058
But this one, this has
a name -- Blue Graphite.
526
00:23:25,093 --> 00:23:27,923
And it matches
the upholstery of a --
527
00:23:27,958 --> 00:23:29,546
cheers --
528
00:23:29,580 --> 00:23:32,031
Holden Commodore V6
Series 1 station wagon.
529
00:23:32,065 --> 00:23:33,688
Why do I know that vehicle?
530
00:23:33,722 --> 00:23:35,034
Because it's the vehicle
the Burger Boys described
531
00:23:35,068 --> 00:23:36,691
seeing the night
Ciara was taken.
532
00:23:36,725 --> 00:23:38,589
Man: Check her out.[Laughter]
533
00:23:38,624 --> 00:23:40,557
It was a white,
late-model Series 1
534
00:23:40,591 --> 00:23:42,144
VS Holden station wagon.
535
00:23:42,179 --> 00:23:44,250
Did Macro look for Holden
station wagons at the time?
536
00:23:44,284 --> 00:23:45,803
Yep, but that search
was shelved
537
00:23:45,838 --> 00:23:47,771
once we started
focusing on Lance.
538
00:23:47,805 --> 00:23:49,773
He drove a Toyota Camry.
539
00:23:49,807 --> 00:23:51,844
♪♪
540
00:23:51,878 --> 00:23:53,570
So is this it? One fiber?
541
00:23:53,604 --> 00:23:55,744
No. Other fibers collected
match a different carpet
542
00:23:55,779 --> 00:23:57,919
made especially
for the cargo area of Holdens.
543
00:23:57,953 --> 00:24:00,024
Suggesting Jane
was in the cargo area
544
00:24:00,059 --> 00:24:02,475
sometime after her visit
to the hairdresser.
545
00:24:02,510 --> 00:24:04,960
Yeah, and there's more.
Fibers found on Ciara
546
00:24:04,995 --> 00:24:08,688
match the carpet
from the same make of car.
547
00:24:08,723 --> 00:24:11,311
We're going car hunting,
boys and girls.
548
00:24:11,346 --> 00:24:20,631
♪♪
549
00:24:20,666 --> 00:24:29,813
♪♪
550
00:24:29,847 --> 00:24:35,715
♪♪
551
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:37,717
Bradley:
I gotta tell you something.
552
00:24:37,752 --> 00:24:39,236
You getting cold feet
about the wedding?
553
00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:40,720
[Chuckles]
554
00:24:40,755 --> 00:24:42,688
I got
a criminal record.
555
00:24:42,722 --> 00:24:44,206
♪♪
556
00:24:44,241 --> 00:24:45,587
Wh--
557
00:24:45,622 --> 00:24:49,315
After my first wife
cheated on me,
558
00:24:49,349 --> 00:24:52,076
I had...
559
00:24:52,111 --> 00:24:53,526
I just --
I couldn't handle it.
560
00:24:53,561 --> 00:24:55,632
I had a brain snap.
561
00:24:55,666 --> 00:24:56,978
What happened?
562
00:24:57,012 --> 00:24:58,738
There was this woman
at work, and...
563
00:24:58,773 --> 00:25:00,706
I took it out on her.
564
00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:02,293
Sexually?
565
00:25:02,328 --> 00:25:03,950
No, no,
it was nothing like that.
566
00:25:03,985 --> 00:25:06,850
They called it a common assault.
It was stupid.
567
00:25:06,884 --> 00:25:08,541
I don't know
what came over me.
568
00:25:08,576 --> 00:25:10,854
It was like I just snapped,
you know?
569
00:25:10,888 --> 00:25:11,993
[Sobs]
570
00:25:12,027 --> 00:25:15,997
It was so dumb.
It was so dumb.
571
00:25:16,031 --> 00:25:19,725
I just wanted you to know
before we got married.
572
00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:21,002
[Sniffles]
573
00:25:21,036 --> 00:25:23,763
Hey. Hey!
574
00:25:23,798 --> 00:25:25,593
I just feel so ashamed.
575
00:25:25,627 --> 00:25:27,042
[Crying]
576
00:25:27,077 --> 00:25:30,701
Hey. Hey, it's okay.
It's alright.
577
00:25:30,736 --> 00:25:33,635
I just wanted
to be honest with you.
578
00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:35,948
Okay. It's alright.
579
00:25:35,982 --> 00:25:44,750
♪♪
580
00:25:44,784 --> 00:25:46,199
♪♪
581
00:25:46,234 --> 00:25:48,788
We went through car lots,
wrecking yards.
582
00:25:48,823 --> 00:25:51,411
Took apart every '96
V6 Commodore we could find.
583
00:25:51,446 --> 00:25:53,034
Nothing?
584
00:25:53,068 --> 00:25:54,794
And nothing from trying
to check the workers
585
00:25:54,829 --> 00:25:57,417
who drove Telecom cars.
They no longer have the records.
586
00:25:57,452 --> 00:25:59,419
It has been 20 years.
587
00:25:59,454 --> 00:26:02,319
Yeah.
588
00:26:02,353 --> 00:26:05,322
Hey, are you seeing anyone?
589
00:26:05,356 --> 00:26:08,394
What? No.
590
00:26:08,428 --> 00:26:10,327
Pick up some random
for the fun of it?
591
00:26:10,361 --> 00:26:15,021
No, just try to have some sort
of life outside this case.
592
00:26:15,953 --> 00:26:18,922
Did I tell you we didn't get
a DNA match from interstate?
593
00:26:18,956 --> 00:26:21,131
It's amazing. This guy just does
not have a criminal record.
594
00:26:21,165 --> 00:26:23,305
He has to. No one starts
with rape and murder.
595
00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:24,859
There has to be
some sort of apprenticeship.
596
00:26:24,893 --> 00:26:27,171
Something even
before Karrakatta.
597
00:26:27,206 --> 00:26:29,415
♪♪
598
00:26:29,449 --> 00:26:32,176
What?
599
00:26:32,211 --> 00:26:34,109
You just gave me an idea.
600
00:26:34,144 --> 00:26:38,182
♪♪
601
00:26:38,217 --> 00:26:41,220
Hey, come here.
Come here.
602
00:26:41,254 --> 00:26:44,361
What if this guy was involved in
a minor crime and pled guilty?
603
00:26:44,395 --> 00:26:47,191
It's possible his DNA
was collected but never tested.
604
00:26:47,226 --> 00:26:49,124
'Cause the police
didn't have to prove his guilt.
605
00:26:49,159 --> 00:26:51,817
Exactly. We need to go back
through the old files.
606
00:26:51,851 --> 00:26:54,060
Any sexual offense pre-1995.
607
00:26:54,095 --> 00:26:56,442
Okay.
608
00:26:56,476 --> 00:27:03,967
♪♪
609
00:27:04,001 --> 00:27:05,416
[Sighs]
610
00:27:05,451 --> 00:27:07,211
[Sighs]
611
00:27:07,246 --> 00:27:09,420
This box shouldn't even be here.
612
00:27:09,455 --> 00:27:13,424
♪♪
613
00:27:13,459 --> 00:27:15,081
This isn't even a sex crime.
614
00:27:15,116 --> 00:27:18,050
It's some kind of
standover operation in the '90s.
615
00:27:18,084 --> 00:27:19,983
♪♪
616
00:27:20,017 --> 00:27:21,467
What's Huntingdale?
617
00:27:21,501 --> 00:27:26,334
♪♪
618
00:27:26,368 --> 00:27:29,233
Uh...
619
00:27:29,268 --> 00:27:32,409
Looks like a series of break-ins
in and around Huntingdale.
620
00:27:32,443 --> 00:27:34,929
Women's underwear
being stolen off the line.
621
00:27:34,963 --> 00:27:37,863
Frequent sightings of a prowler
breaking into houses.
622
00:27:37,897 --> 00:27:39,381
Yeah, that was found
at one of the assaults.
623
00:27:39,416 --> 00:27:44,248
A...stocking used
as a gag and bindings.
624
00:27:44,283 --> 00:27:45,905
The attacker brought those
with him?
625
00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:48,839
Mm.
626
00:27:48,874 --> 00:27:51,359
Mostly rapists
don't come with restraints.
627
00:27:51,393 --> 00:27:53,464
♪♪
628
00:27:53,499 --> 00:27:55,846
The Karrakatta rapist did.
629
00:27:55,881 --> 00:28:02,335
♪♪
630
00:28:02,370 --> 00:28:08,514
♪♪
631
00:28:08,548 --> 00:28:14,831
♪♪
632
00:28:14,865 --> 00:28:18,904
That's it.
That's what he was wearing.
633
00:28:18,938 --> 00:28:21,803
Dave:
This was, uh, February 1988?
634
00:28:21,838 --> 00:28:23,805
Valentine's Day.
635
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,049
Do you remember
what he looked like?
636
00:28:26,083 --> 00:28:29,466
[Screams]No! No!
637
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:31,882
No, I didn't see his face.
638
00:28:31,917 --> 00:28:34,264
Uh, Gavin?
639
00:28:34,298 --> 00:28:35,886
Excuse me.
640
00:28:38,509 --> 00:28:40,580
We just had a call
from PathWest.
641
00:28:40,615 --> 00:28:42,893
They got a hit?Semen on the kimono.
642
00:28:42,928 --> 00:28:44,101
It matches both
the Karrakatta rapist
643
00:28:44,136 --> 00:28:46,103
and Ciara's left thumbnail.
644
00:29:01,325 --> 00:29:03,880
Is there anything else you can
tell us about your attacker?
645
00:29:03,914 --> 00:29:07,021
Anything that might
help identify him?
646
00:29:07,055 --> 00:29:09,333
Well, at the time, I had no idea
who the hell he was,
647
00:29:09,368 --> 00:29:13,821
but afterwards, when I started
to tell my story to people,
648
00:29:13,855 --> 00:29:15,477
everyone started
telling their own story
649
00:29:15,512 --> 00:29:18,584
about this guy being around
the neighborhood at the time.
650
00:29:18,618 --> 00:29:19,999
Other sexual assaults?
651
00:29:20,034 --> 00:29:23,037
No, mostly
it was pranking stuff.
652
00:29:23,071 --> 00:29:27,179
This guy would run around the
streets and break into houses.
653
00:29:27,213 --> 00:29:29,595
He'd wear women's
underwear on his head.
654
00:29:29,629 --> 00:29:31,321
Everyone thought
it was funny.
655
00:29:31,355 --> 00:29:33,841
They used to call him
the Huntingdale Weirdo.
656
00:29:36,084 --> 00:29:38,121
[Sighs]
657
00:29:38,155 --> 00:29:40,640
[Muffled music plays]
658
00:29:40,675 --> 00:29:44,437
[Woman screams on recording]
659
00:29:44,472 --> 00:29:46,957
[Music continues]
660
00:29:46,992 --> 00:29:49,822
♪♪
661
00:29:49,857 --> 00:29:52,894
♪♪
662
00:29:52,929 --> 00:29:56,035
♪♪
663
00:29:56,070 --> 00:30:03,111
♪♪
664
00:30:03,146 --> 00:30:10,187
♪♪
665
00:30:10,222 --> 00:30:13,881
♪♪
666
00:30:13,915 --> 00:30:16,642
[Door creaking]
667
00:30:16,676 --> 00:30:19,541
♪♪
668
00:30:19,576 --> 00:30:23,269
♪♪
669
00:30:23,304 --> 00:30:26,203
[Woman screaming]
670
00:30:26,238 --> 00:30:34,315
♪♪
671
00:30:34,349 --> 00:30:40,631
[Music intensifies]
672
00:30:40,666 --> 00:30:43,220
♪♪
673
00:30:43,255 --> 00:30:50,676
♪♪
674
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:58,270
♪♪
675
00:30:58,304 --> 00:31:00,030
The Huntingdale Weirdo.
676
00:31:00,065 --> 00:31:03,309
Geez, he got around. There
must be dozens of break-ins.
677
00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:05,691
We just need one
where he left prints.
678
00:31:05,725 --> 00:31:12,008
♪♪
679
00:31:12,042 --> 00:31:13,664
Hmm.
680
00:31:13,699 --> 00:31:18,980
♪♪
681
00:31:19,015 --> 00:31:28,714
♪♪
682
00:31:28,748 --> 00:31:31,751
Think I've found something.
683
00:31:31,786 --> 00:31:34,478
This was an attempt to break in
not too far from Kylee's house,
684
00:31:34,513 --> 00:31:36,273
and only a few days
after her attack.
685
00:31:36,308 --> 00:31:39,932
He left...
686
00:31:39,967 --> 00:31:42,038
He left prints,
but he didn't get in.
687
00:31:42,072 --> 00:31:44,972
Question is, do they match
anyone in the system?
688
00:31:45,006 --> 00:31:52,117
♪♪
689
00:31:52,151 --> 00:31:56,155
Bradley Robert Edwards.
1990.
690
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:58,502
It's the only offense
ever recorded against him.
691
00:31:58,537 --> 00:32:00,056
Was it a sex crime?
692
00:32:00,090 --> 00:32:01,402
Apparently the file
just says "common assault,"
693
00:32:01,436 --> 00:32:03,335
which is why it wasn't
picked up earlier.
694
00:32:03,369 --> 00:32:06,614
Macro was only looking
for precursor sex crimes.
695
00:32:06,648 --> 00:32:09,272
[Breathes deeply]
Is there a witness?
696
00:32:09,306 --> 00:32:12,413
♪♪
697
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:16,935
There was nothing
"common" about it.
698
00:32:19,558 --> 00:32:21,422
I thought I was gonna die.
699
00:32:23,044 --> 00:32:24,666
[Screams]
700
00:32:24,701 --> 00:32:27,324
[Muffled scream]
701
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:31,466
I have no doubt...
he intended to rape me.
702
00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:36,264
The level
of aggression...
703
00:32:36,299 --> 00:32:37,990
it was just insane.
704
00:32:38,025 --> 00:32:40,579
[Muffled screaming]
705
00:32:40,613 --> 00:32:42,339
I was on the floor
with a gag in my mouth,
706
00:32:42,374 --> 00:32:45,446
being dragged to the toilets.
707
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,070
And you told all this
to the police?
708
00:32:49,105 --> 00:32:50,554
Yep.
709
00:32:50,589 --> 00:32:54,213
♪♪
710
00:32:54,248 --> 00:32:55,732
[Grunts]
711
00:32:55,766 --> 00:32:58,735
I'm sorry!
I'm sorry, I'm sorry!
712
00:32:58,769 --> 00:33:01,462
Everyone treated it like
it was nothing.
713
00:33:01,496 --> 00:33:05,362
♪♪
714
00:33:05,397 --> 00:33:08,572
I even had a meeting
with his boss.
715
00:33:08,607 --> 00:33:13,129
And they were saying,
"Oh, he's such a nice guy.
716
00:33:13,163 --> 00:33:14,509
He was having
relationship problems.
717
00:33:14,544 --> 00:33:17,202
He just had a brain snap."
718
00:33:17,236 --> 00:33:19,411
♪♪
719
00:33:19,445 --> 00:33:22,241
I mean, seriously, what kind of
guy turns up to a hospital
720
00:33:22,276 --> 00:33:23,794
in broad daylight to fix
your phones
721
00:33:23,829 --> 00:33:26,418
and
tries to rape a social worker?
722
00:33:26,452 --> 00:33:30,525
♪♪
723
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,151
I couldn't believe it was
being swept under the carpet.
724
00:33:35,185 --> 00:33:36,773
Fix the phones?
725
00:33:36,807 --> 00:33:39,155
Yeah.
726
00:33:39,189 --> 00:33:42,261
That's why he was there.
He was a Telstra technician.
727
00:33:42,296 --> 00:33:50,373
♪♪
728
00:33:50,407 --> 00:33:51,719
[Camera shutter clicking]
729
00:33:51,753 --> 00:33:57,725
♪♪
730
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,591
That's him.
That's our killer.
731
00:34:01,625 --> 00:34:03,903
At the time of the Huntingdale
prowler attacks,
732
00:34:03,938 --> 00:34:06,423
he was an 18-year-old
living at home with his parents.
733
00:34:06,458 --> 00:34:07,735
This is their house.
734
00:34:07,769 --> 00:34:09,116
These are the houses
where break-ins
735
00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:10,669
or sightings were reported.
736
00:34:10,703 --> 00:34:12,705
This is the house where
Kylee Cosgrove was attacked
737
00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:15,536
and the kimono found.
Now, he knew this house.
738
00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:19,091
Wasn't too far from where
he lived with his parents.
739
00:34:19,126 --> 00:34:21,783
His vehicles match.
At the time of Karrakatta,
740
00:34:21,818 --> 00:34:24,579
he was driving
a Telecom Mitsubishi van.
741
00:34:24,614 --> 00:34:26,340
This matches the description
Lisa Todd
742
00:34:26,374 --> 00:34:30,206
gave of the cargo area
she was thrown into in '95.
743
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:32,691
♪♪
744
00:34:32,725 --> 00:34:35,694
His next vehicle was a white
Toyota Camry station wagon,
745
00:34:35,728 --> 00:34:39,353
which Sarah Spiers
may have mistaken for a taxi.
746
00:34:39,387 --> 00:34:42,218
But in 1997,
he was driving this.
747
00:34:42,252 --> 00:34:45,152
A Holden Commodore V6
Series 1 station wagon --
748
00:34:45,186 --> 00:34:47,844
the exact vehicle
the Burger Boys described.
749
00:34:47,878 --> 00:34:49,846
And we found the car.
750
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,641
Miraculously,
it's still in operation.
751
00:34:51,675 --> 00:34:54,161
We've tracked it
to a plant nursery in Chidlow.
752
00:34:54,195 --> 00:34:55,541
The Burger Boys
described the wheels
753
00:34:55,576 --> 00:34:57,474
as having
teardrop-shaped cutouts.
754
00:34:57,509 --> 00:34:59,304
That wasn't standard
for that model Holden.
755
00:34:59,338 --> 00:35:02,445
We thought they got it wrong.
They didn't.
756
00:35:02,479 --> 00:35:06,276
Now, the question is...
when do we make our move?
757
00:35:06,311 --> 00:35:08,520
And are we absolutely sure
this is our man?
758
00:35:08,554 --> 00:35:11,316
And the big problem --
Did he stop after Ciara?
759
00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:14,457
- Why would he?
- He got married.
760
00:35:14,491 --> 00:35:16,838
We think this gave him
the stability he needed
761
00:35:16,873 --> 00:35:18,806
to put a stopper
to the anger.
762
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,499
And if that is true,
then we have another problem,
763
00:35:22,534 --> 00:35:25,571
because it appears the
second wife has just moved out.
764
00:35:25,606 --> 00:35:27,711
So we need to move now.
765
00:35:27,746 --> 00:35:31,888
[Suspenseful music plays]
766
00:35:31,922 --> 00:35:34,960
♪♪
767
00:35:34,994 --> 00:35:36,755
[Indistinct conversations]
768
00:35:36,789 --> 00:35:39,171
[Shouts indistinctly]
769
00:35:39,206 --> 00:35:42,657
♪♪
770
00:35:42,692 --> 00:35:45,212
[Laughter, woman screams]
771
00:35:45,246 --> 00:35:53,910
♪♪
772
00:35:53,944 --> 00:36:02,746
♪♪
773
00:36:02,781 --> 00:36:11,583
♪♪
774
00:36:11,617 --> 00:36:20,385
♪♪
775
00:36:20,419 --> 00:36:21,662
[Loud thud]
776
00:36:21,696 --> 00:36:23,215
- Police! Don't move!
- On the ground!
777
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:25,044
- Down on your knees!
- Stay where you are!
778
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:26,770
Hands on your head!
779
00:36:26,805 --> 00:36:30,843
♪♪
780
00:36:30,878 --> 00:36:32,397
Hands behind your back.
781
00:36:32,431 --> 00:36:33,812
I have in my possession
a search warrant issued
782
00:36:33,846 --> 00:36:36,435
under the Criminal
Investigation Act.
783
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:38,920
Right, that's for you.
784
00:36:38,955 --> 00:36:40,888
Bradley Robert Edwards,
you are now being arrested
785
00:36:40,922 --> 00:36:42,993
on suspicion of the willful
murder of Ciara Glennon...
786
00:36:43,028 --> 00:36:44,650
What? What the......Jane Rimmer...
787
00:36:44,685 --> 00:36:46,031
and Sarah Spiers.You gotta be joking.
788
00:36:46,065 --> 00:36:47,757
You're also being arrested
on suspicion
789
00:36:47,791 --> 00:36:50,656
of a break-in and assault
in Huntingdale in 1988,
790
00:36:50,691 --> 00:36:53,659
and a rape
in Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995.
791
00:36:53,694 --> 00:36:56,041
As a person arrested
on suspicion, you've got rights.
792
00:36:56,075 --> 00:36:57,698
I'm gonna go through
those rights with you now,
793
00:36:57,732 --> 00:37:00,494
okay, so listen carefully.
Do you have to speak to me?
794
00:37:00,528 --> 00:37:02,530
No.Are you aware
that this is being recorded?
795
00:37:02,565 --> 00:37:04,394
I'm just trying to process
what's going on.Okay.
796
00:37:04,429 --> 00:37:07,328
Is there any property here
that belongs to Ciara Glennon...
797
00:37:07,363 --> 00:37:09,296
What? Don't...
...Jane Rimmer, or Sarah Spiers?
798
00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:10,987
Why would there be
anything like that here?
799
00:37:11,021 --> 00:37:13,679
Better get him out of here.
Press has got wind of this.
800
00:37:13,714 --> 00:37:16,095
Alright, get him out of here.Can I just call my parents?
801
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:17,959
[Helicopter blades whirring]
802
00:37:17,994 --> 00:37:20,583
♪♪
803
00:37:20,617 --> 00:37:22,274
Officer: Watch your step.
804
00:37:22,309 --> 00:37:26,105
[Indistinct shouting,
camera shutters clicking]
805
00:37:26,140 --> 00:37:31,421
♪♪
806
00:37:31,456 --> 00:37:33,596
Woman: Detective,
any comments?
807
00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:35,805
[Engine starts]
808
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:37,738
Okay, go. Get out of here.
809
00:37:37,772 --> 00:37:39,981
[Shouting continues]
810
00:37:40,016 --> 00:37:43,640
♪♪
811
00:37:43,675 --> 00:37:45,780
Dave: You've got to find us
something from one of the girls,
812
00:37:45,815 --> 00:37:46,988
anything linking
Edwards to them.
813
00:37:47,023 --> 00:37:48,818
Ciara's brooch,
Jane's clothes,
814
00:37:48,852 --> 00:37:50,854
Sarah, that -- that key ring.
815
00:37:50,889 --> 00:37:52,339
A sunflower, yeah.
We'll find something.
816
00:37:52,373 --> 00:37:53,512
Is he lawyering up?
817
00:37:53,547 --> 00:37:54,858
Not yet.
Said he doesn't want one.
818
00:37:54,893 --> 00:37:56,308
Ring me when
you've got something.
819
00:37:56,343 --> 00:37:57,792
Yeah.
820
00:38:01,831 --> 00:38:04,005
You lead in there.
821
00:38:05,973 --> 00:38:07,733
You're about the same age.
822
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,945
Build up some rapport.
823
00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:16,811
Keep it friendly,
and let's make him sing.
824
00:38:20,712 --> 00:38:22,507
[Cellphone rings]
825
00:38:22,541 --> 00:38:25,130
Oh, shit.
826
00:38:25,164 --> 00:38:27,822
You promised me
the biggest story of the year,
827
00:38:27,857 --> 00:38:31,170
and then I see some blond bimbo
reporting it live?
828
00:38:31,205 --> 00:38:32,793
I was gonna call you,
Alison.
829
00:38:32,827 --> 00:38:35,451
I can't talk right now.
830
00:38:35,485 --> 00:38:37,660
Gavin?
831
00:38:37,694 --> 00:38:40,387
Reporter:
The police have not yet issuedan official statement.
832
00:38:40,421 --> 00:38:42,354
[Door closes]Gavin: Okay.
833
00:38:52,468 --> 00:38:56,023
Okay. We just wanted to ask you
a couple of questions.
834
00:38:56,057 --> 00:38:57,783
Maybe we can just start
at the beginning?
835
00:38:57,818 --> 00:38:59,371
Sure.
836
00:38:59,406 --> 00:39:02,995
Why don't you tell us
about your childhood?
837
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:04,928
But what does
my childhood have to...
838
00:39:04,963 --> 00:39:06,827
Just to get to know you,
you know?
839
00:39:06,861 --> 00:39:10,796
Okay. We...
We lived in a van for a while
840
00:39:10,831 --> 00:39:14,144
because my dad was always
traveling for work,
841
00:39:14,179 --> 00:39:16,077
but, um, it was good,
you know?
842
00:39:16,112 --> 00:39:17,631
We saw
my parents' friends a lot.
843
00:39:17,665 --> 00:39:20,392
Had barbecues on weekends.[Sizzling]
844
00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:23,947
Pretty normal,
just growing-up stuff.
845
00:39:23,982 --> 00:39:26,467
[Indistinct conversations]
846
00:39:26,502 --> 00:39:28,573
♪♪
847
00:39:28,607 --> 00:39:32,128
[Choir vocalizing]
848
00:39:32,162 --> 00:39:40,170
♪♪
849
00:39:40,205 --> 00:39:42,759
[Ominous music plays]
850
00:39:42,794 --> 00:39:44,658
[Vocalizing continues]
851
00:39:44,692 --> 00:39:45,797
[Door opens]
852
00:39:45,831 --> 00:39:47,039
[Drawer slams]
853
00:39:47,074 --> 00:39:48,075
♪♪
854
00:39:48,109 --> 00:39:49,663
[Clears throat]
855
00:39:49,697 --> 00:39:51,250
And you wore glasses?
856
00:39:51,285 --> 00:39:52,942
Yeah.Mm.
857
00:39:52,976 --> 00:39:54,461
Yeah, I wasn't
the best-looking kid.
858
00:39:54,495 --> 00:39:56,186
I got teased about it.Oh, okay.
859
00:39:56,221 --> 00:39:57,912
That's hard.Mm.
860
00:39:57,947 --> 00:40:00,915
So I started wearing contact
lenses when I was about 20.
861
00:40:00,950 --> 00:40:02,572
20.
862
00:40:02,607 --> 00:40:04,954
But you wore glasses
before that?
863
00:40:04,988 --> 00:40:07,888
Yeah.
Mm. Okay.
864
00:40:15,482 --> 00:40:18,450
Valentine's Day in 1988.
Do you remember where you were?
865
00:40:18,485 --> 00:40:21,626
Come on, mate. I can't even
remember where I was last week.
866
00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:22,730
Yeah.
867
00:40:22,765 --> 00:40:25,526
[Chuckles]
868
00:40:25,561 --> 00:40:27,563
[Laughs]
869
00:40:27,597 --> 00:40:30,013
Do you remember
Kylee Cosgrove?
870
00:40:33,085 --> 00:40:35,916
She lived not far from you
in Huntingdale.
871
00:40:35,950 --> 00:40:38,505
Uh, no, I don't think so.
872
00:40:38,539 --> 00:40:39,920
Don't think so?
873
00:40:39,954 --> 00:40:41,542
No.
874
00:40:41,577 --> 00:40:43,475
She didn't go to your school?
875
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:44,718
No.
876
00:40:44,752 --> 00:40:46,927
I mean, we might have...
877
00:40:46,961 --> 00:40:48,756
I remember --
I remember the name Cosgrove.
878
00:40:48,791 --> 00:40:50,896
I think my brother used to swim
at their pool or something,
879
00:40:50,931 --> 00:40:52,311
but I-I don't --
I didn't cross paths
880
00:40:52,346 --> 00:40:53,761
with any Kylee Cosgrove.
881
00:40:53,796 --> 00:40:55,176
Okay. Yep.
882
00:40:55,211 --> 00:40:56,868
Mm.
883
00:40:56,902 --> 00:41:00,768
And you know anything
about a kimono?
884
00:41:00,803 --> 00:41:04,254
Two birds, red flowers
on the back?
885
00:41:04,289 --> 00:41:06,015
No. Nothing.
886
00:41:06,049 --> 00:41:08,327
Nothing.
887
00:41:08,362 --> 00:41:10,329
Maybe we can back up a bit.
888
00:41:10,364 --> 00:41:12,918
Can you tell us about
your first marriage?
889
00:41:12,953 --> 00:41:16,197
First marriage?Yeah.
890
00:41:16,232 --> 00:41:18,924
I was depressed.
891
00:41:18,959 --> 00:41:22,652
Um, I drank a lot.
892
00:41:22,687 --> 00:41:25,034
You know why she left?
893
00:41:25,068 --> 00:41:28,037
We, uh...
894
00:41:28,071 --> 00:41:30,626
We had a lodger,
and she took up with him.
895
00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:39,566
♪♪
896
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,809
But I still kinda loved her,
you know?
897
00:41:41,844 --> 00:41:43,708
And her parents told my parents
that leaving me
898
00:41:43,742 --> 00:41:46,020
was the worst decision
that she ever made.
899
00:41:46,055 --> 00:41:50,300
Mm. Your wife left you
around Australia Day '96?
900
00:41:50,335 --> 00:41:52,233
Yeah, probably about then.
901
00:41:52,268 --> 00:41:55,685
That's about when
Sarah Spiers went missing.
902
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:59,309
Isn't it? Yeah.
903
00:41:59,344 --> 00:42:04,107
And you found out your wife
was pregnant to this lodger...
904
00:42:04,142 --> 00:42:06,213
I guess. Well, if...
Yeah, June.
905
00:42:06,247 --> 00:42:08,042
June 1996.
906
00:42:08,077 --> 00:42:10,976
[Sighs]
907
00:42:11,011 --> 00:42:14,186
That's about the time
Jane Rimmer went missing.
908
00:42:14,221 --> 00:42:16,603
Mm...
909
00:42:16,637 --> 00:42:17,983
And I've got here
you sold the home you bought
910
00:42:18,018 --> 00:42:21,090
with your first wife
in January of 1997.
911
00:42:21,124 --> 00:42:25,197
That's around the time
Ciara Glennon was abducted.
912
00:42:25,232 --> 00:42:29,339
That's a hell of a coincidence.
Is that right -- those dates?
913
00:42:29,374 --> 00:42:31,307
Look, I don't know anything
about any of that.
914
00:42:31,341 --> 00:42:34,344
I'm trying to be as honest
with you blokes as I can.
915
00:42:34,379 --> 00:42:37,382
♪♪
916
00:42:37,416 --> 00:42:40,627
Will you submit
to giving a DNA sample?
917
00:42:40,661 --> 00:42:41,731
DNA?
918
00:42:41,766 --> 00:42:44,078
Yeah, for testing.
919
00:42:44,113 --> 00:42:46,667
You can oblige willingly,
or we can get a court order,
920
00:42:46,702 --> 00:42:51,051
but either way,
yeah, we'll get it.
921
00:42:51,085 --> 00:42:52,915
[Chuckles] No, no, I'll give it.
I don't mind.
922
00:42:52,949 --> 00:42:54,675
I keep telling you
I've got nothing to hide.
923
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:56,125
Just wanna go to sleep
and wake up,
924
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,782
and this'll all be over.
You know what I mean?
925
00:42:57,816 --> 00:43:03,891
♪♪
926
00:43:03,926 --> 00:43:06,100
[Police radio chatter,
indistinct conversations]
927
00:43:09,069 --> 00:43:12,693
Hey, Dave.
We found porn, snuff films,
928
00:43:12,728 --> 00:43:14,350
women's underwear
with the crotch cut out,
929
00:43:14,384 --> 00:43:17,215
homemade sex toys, some stuff
he's written about rape.
930
00:43:17,249 --> 00:43:19,424
I mean, this guy's
a psycho fuck, but...
931
00:43:19,458 --> 00:43:21,115
There's nothing to connect him
to the girls?
932
00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:24,429
Yeah, not yet.
Neither clothing, nor jewelry.
933
00:43:24,463 --> 00:43:26,914
Not one trophy.
He's either hidden it, or...
934
00:43:26,949 --> 00:43:28,191
He got rid of it.
935
00:43:28,226 --> 00:43:29,883
Yeah.
How's the interview going?
936
00:43:29,917 --> 00:43:31,263
Uh, he's denying everything.
937
00:43:31,298 --> 00:43:33,196
He's lying, Nikki.
He's making shit up.
938
00:43:33,231 --> 00:43:34,922
But you still have
enough to charge him?
939
00:43:34,957 --> 00:43:37,649
Yeah, but, you know, a
confession would be bloody nice.
940
00:43:37,684 --> 00:43:39,133
I'll get one.
I'll get a confession.
941
00:43:39,168 --> 00:43:41,032
Gav.
942
00:43:41,066 --> 00:43:42,481
We'll have new DNA results
within an hour,
943
00:43:42,516 --> 00:43:44,276
and when they match
with what we found on Ciara,
944
00:43:44,311 --> 00:43:45,692
we won't need a confession.
945
00:43:45,726 --> 00:43:47,279
What,
he gave his DNA willingly?
946
00:43:47,314 --> 00:43:49,281
He did.Shit.
947
00:43:49,316 --> 00:43:50,697
He either doesn't think
we have anything
948
00:43:50,731 --> 00:43:52,284
to compare it to
or he's not our guy.
949
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:55,253
He's our guy. Right,
we'll talk soon, eh?
950
00:43:55,287 --> 00:43:59,429
♪♪
951
00:43:59,464 --> 00:44:01,777
You bet he is.
952
00:44:01,811 --> 00:44:03,710
Look.
953
00:44:03,744 --> 00:44:06,989
♪♪
954
00:44:07,023 --> 00:44:09,370
He's sleeping.
955
00:44:09,405 --> 00:44:12,891
Only guilty bastards sleep.
956
00:44:12,926 --> 00:44:15,238
The innocent
are always pacing.
957
00:44:15,273 --> 00:44:22,798
♪♪
958
00:44:22,832 --> 00:44:26,525
Gavin: Mr. Edwards.
959
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,355
It's time to get up.
960
00:44:28,389 --> 00:44:32,773
♪♪
961
00:44:32,808 --> 00:44:35,189
Now, in 1996, when you were
working for Telstra,
962
00:44:35,224 --> 00:44:37,985
did you drive a Holden
Commodore station wagon?
963
00:44:38,020 --> 00:44:39,331
Yeah.
964
00:44:39,366 --> 00:44:41,023
Yeah.
And a cargo area in the back?
965
00:44:41,057 --> 00:44:42,369
Yeah, there was a caged area
966
00:44:42,403 --> 00:44:45,061
between the driver
and the rear area,
967
00:44:45,096 --> 00:44:47,995
but I think every Telstra
vehicle looked like that.
968
00:44:48,030 --> 00:44:51,378
And did you drive around
the nightclubs in Claremont?
969
00:44:51,412 --> 00:44:55,209
Um, I mean, I'm aware of them,
I've never been to them.
970
00:44:55,244 --> 00:44:59,558
I-I don't go out
to Claremont.
971
00:44:59,593 --> 00:45:01,457
Okay.
972
00:45:01,491 --> 00:45:04,771
We'll just take
a look at this map.
973
00:45:04,805 --> 00:45:06,945
Do you know Rowe Park?
974
00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,292
No.Are you positive?
975
00:45:09,327 --> 00:45:10,811
Yes.
976
00:45:10,846 --> 00:45:13,089
Karrakatta Cemetery?Yes.
977
00:45:13,124 --> 00:45:17,818
I was there for a memorial
for a woman in 2008, I think.
978
00:45:17,853 --> 00:45:19,337
No time before?
979
00:45:19,371 --> 00:45:22,064
Not that I recall.
980
00:45:22,098 --> 00:45:23,755
[Knock on door]
981
00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:24,894
Come in.
982
00:45:24,929 --> 00:45:27,138
[Door opens]
983
00:45:27,172 --> 00:45:28,553
Thank you.
984
00:45:30,555 --> 00:45:32,384
[Door closes]
985
00:45:57,824 --> 00:46:04,451
♪♪
986
00:46:04,485 --> 00:46:06,591
Are you aware of the women
who were abducted from Claremont
987
00:46:06,625 --> 00:46:09,180
in '96 and '97?
988
00:46:09,214 --> 00:46:11,907
♪♪
989
00:46:11,941 --> 00:46:13,115
I'm aware of them.
990
00:46:13,149 --> 00:46:15,289
I think everybody
was aware of them.
991
00:46:15,324 --> 00:46:18,914
But I'm 110% -- I am 120%
992
00:46:18,948 --> 00:46:21,813
certain that I'm not involved
in any of this.
993
00:46:21,848 --> 00:46:24,160
I don't know how many ways
that I can say no.
994
00:46:24,195 --> 00:46:26,024
Right.
995
00:46:26,059 --> 00:46:28,647
DNA results have come back,
996
00:46:28,682 --> 00:46:31,236
and they confirm that your DNA
is a positive match
997
00:46:31,271 --> 00:46:34,170
for the kimono in Huntingdale
in 1988...No, that's not possible.
998
00:46:34,205 --> 00:46:37,001
...for the rape of a young woman
in Karrakatta Cemetery... No.
999
00:46:37,035 --> 00:46:40,625
How can that be?...and for the murder
of Ciara Glennon in 1997.
1000
00:46:40,659 --> 00:46:42,938
No.
1001
00:46:42,972 --> 00:46:43,973
Can you explain that?
1002
00:46:44,008 --> 00:46:45,872
I-I can't.
1003
00:46:45,906 --> 00:46:47,494
You can't explain that?No.
1004
00:46:47,528 --> 00:46:50,083
Alright. You're an intelligent
man. You're not dumb.
1005
00:46:50,117 --> 00:46:52,292
Now, you know that
your DNA is unique.
1006
00:46:52,326 --> 00:46:53,569
You're the only person
in the whole world
1007
00:46:53,603 --> 00:46:55,053
with that DNA profile.
1008
00:46:55,088 --> 00:46:57,400
I can --
I can't explain that. I mean...
1009
00:46:57,435 --> 00:46:59,092
Just tell us what happened.
1010
00:46:59,126 --> 00:47:01,266
I-I wish I could, but I can't
because I wasn't there!
1011
00:47:01,301 --> 00:47:03,613
I-I mean, you're...Hey, slow down.
1012
00:47:03,648 --> 00:47:05,443
I see that you don't believe
that I did it.
1013
00:47:05,477 --> 00:47:07,203
Slow down.But you're the one
saying that I did it.
1014
00:47:07,238 --> 00:47:09,102
Listen,
the question I asked you
1015
00:47:09,136 --> 00:47:11,656
is, do you understand
that your DNA profile's unique?
1016
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:13,244
I can't explain that!
1017
00:47:13,278 --> 00:47:15,073
I don't understand
what's happening!
1018
00:47:15,108 --> 00:47:18,870
Well, we found your semen
on the kimono in Huntingdale.
1019
00:47:18,905 --> 00:47:22,632
We found your DNA on Lisa Todd
in Karrakatta Cemetery.
1020
00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:24,186
Can't explain that?No.
1021
00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:26,878
And we found your DNA
on Ciara Glennon,
1022
00:47:26,913 --> 00:47:30,606
27 years of age,
murdered March 14, 1997, okay?
1023
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,159
Your DNA is on her.
1024
00:47:32,194 --> 00:47:33,574
Impossible.Can't explain that one either?
1025
00:47:33,609 --> 00:47:34,955
No.Alright.
1026
00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:37,164
Are you an honest man?I'm -- Yes.
1027
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,995
'Cause we interviewed
your stepdaughter.
1028
00:47:40,029 --> 00:47:42,031
And she said that
your most-prized virtue
1029
00:47:42,066 --> 00:47:43,308
is your honesty.
1030
00:47:43,343 --> 00:47:46,242
I ambeing honest.
1031
00:47:46,277 --> 00:47:48,417
Are you a man who accepts
responsibility for your actions?
1032
00:47:48,451 --> 00:47:50,591
I accept responsibility
for the stuff that I have done,
1033
00:47:50,626 --> 00:47:53,077
not for the stuff
that I haven't.
1034
00:47:53,111 --> 00:47:57,667
♪♪
1035
00:47:57,702 --> 00:48:01,706
Bradley Robert Edwards,
you're now being charged
1036
00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:03,708
with the assault
on Kylee Cosgrove...
1037
00:48:03,742 --> 00:48:05,572
No, you've got
the wrong guy....in 1988...
1038
00:48:05,606 --> 00:48:09,334
the rape of Lisa Todd
in 1995,
1039
00:48:09,369 --> 00:48:11,923
and the murders of Jane Rimmer
and Ciara Glennon.
1040
00:48:11,958 --> 00:48:14,684
I did not do it!
You've got the wrong guy.
1041
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,308
♪♪
1042
00:48:17,342 --> 00:48:19,413
I'm here to makean important announcement...
1043
00:48:19,448 --> 00:48:20,759
[Cellphone rings] ...to the West Australiancommunity.
1044
00:48:20,794 --> 00:48:22,416
Detectives fromthe Special Crime Squad
1045
00:48:22,451 --> 00:48:25,385
have chargeda 48-year-old Kewdale man
1046
00:48:25,419 --> 00:48:28,146
with the murders of Jane Rimmerand Ciara Glennon,
1047
00:48:28,181 --> 00:48:30,286
and attacks.on other young women.Gav?
1048
00:48:30,321 --> 00:48:32,116
You watching this? This has already been
1049
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:34,773
the biggest and most complexpolice investigation
1050
00:48:34,808 --> 00:48:36,085
in WA's history.Congratulations, Gav.
1051
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,638
Hundreds of police officers...
1052
00:48:37,673 --> 00:48:39,537
Now we have
to convict him.
1053
00:48:39,571 --> 00:48:41,056
...over the past 20 years.
1054
00:48:41,090 --> 00:48:43,403
You will. The commitment of the WA Police
1055
00:48:43,437 --> 00:48:46,613
and its officershave never wavered.
1056
00:48:46,647 --> 00:48:48,995
We never give up.
1057
00:48:49,029 --> 00:48:50,686
He didn't confess
and he's pleading not guilty
1058
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,515
to every charge.
There's nothing
1059
00:48:52,550 --> 00:48:54,276
in any of the houses
that links him to the girls.
1060
00:48:54,310 --> 00:48:56,657
Not one trophy,
not one hair, nothing.
1061
00:48:56,692 --> 00:48:58,521
Just tell him you got
something from his car.
1062
00:48:58,556 --> 00:49:02,353
Yeah, we found this.
1063
00:49:02,387 --> 00:49:04,079
You see it?
1064
00:49:04,113 --> 00:49:06,978
Yeah. But that doesn't link him
to any of the girls.
1065
00:49:07,013 --> 00:49:08,531
You got anything else?
1066
00:49:08,566 --> 00:49:10,016
There was no blood or hair
from them in the car.
1067
00:49:10,050 --> 00:49:11,672
How can there be no blood?
1068
00:49:11,707 --> 00:49:14,020
Well, he must have killed them
where we found them.
1069
00:49:14,054 --> 00:49:17,678
But the fibers on Jane
and Ciara match, okay?
1070
00:49:17,713 --> 00:49:21,165
These gray ones were found
in the carpet on the car floor
1071
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,167
and back well
of a Holden Commodore.
1072
00:49:23,201 --> 00:49:26,549
And on the handle
that adjusts the driver's seat,
1073
00:49:26,584 --> 00:49:28,482
13 blue fibers
we can't ID yet.
1074
00:49:28,517 --> 00:49:31,071
But I had an idea
about them.
1075
00:49:34,557 --> 00:49:35,834
You see it?
1076
00:49:35,869 --> 00:49:37,595
Yeah.
The shorts.
1077
00:49:37,629 --> 00:49:40,598
These could be the source
of the blue fibers.
1078
00:49:40,632 --> 00:49:44,498
We've just got to find someone
who kept a pair since 1995.
1079
00:49:44,533 --> 00:49:47,639
I swear, okay? I didn't have
anything to do with it.
1080
00:49:47,674 --> 00:49:49,641
It's just like
with that other guy,
1081
00:49:49,676 --> 00:49:51,816
that, um, public servant
that they...
1082
00:49:51,850 --> 00:49:53,231
Lance Williams.
1083
00:49:53,266 --> 00:49:56,648
That's it. Yeah.
That's what the cops do.
1084
00:49:56,683 --> 00:49:59,237
They get tunnel vision,
they zone in on a guy.
1085
00:49:59,272 --> 00:50:01,136
But why'd they pick you, Dad?I don't know.
1086
00:50:01,170 --> 00:50:05,174
They're saying that they've got
my DNA from an attack in 1988.
1087
00:50:05,209 --> 00:50:07,383
What's that, 30 years ago?
1088
00:50:07,418 --> 00:50:09,454
They're just trying
to stitch me up. You'll see.
1089
00:50:09,489 --> 00:50:12,043
We'll keep supporting you, Brad.
Don't worry.
1090
00:50:12,078 --> 00:50:13,665
So will Mum and Dad.
1091
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,736
We all believe you.
1092
00:50:15,771 --> 00:50:20,707
♪♪
1093
00:50:20,741 --> 00:50:22,881
I-I don't understand
how he isn't charged
1094
00:50:22,916 --> 00:50:24,607
with Sarah's...
1095
00:50:24,642 --> 00:50:26,333
with her...
1096
00:50:26,368 --> 00:50:30,199
her murder.
1097
00:50:30,234 --> 00:50:31,476
There's still nothing concrete
1098
00:50:31,511 --> 00:50:34,824
that links him with Sarah --
yet.
1099
00:50:34,859 --> 00:50:36,619
You need a body.
1100
00:50:36,654 --> 00:50:39,277
No.
1101
00:50:39,312 --> 00:50:42,763
Not necessarily.
1102
00:50:42,798 --> 00:50:45,490
But we could use more evidence.
1103
00:50:45,525 --> 00:50:47,561
Do you have any kids?
1104
00:50:51,255 --> 00:50:53,119
No.
1105
00:50:54,499 --> 00:50:56,674
In the country...
1106
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,299
you can sometimes fear
the big city.
1107
00:51:03,508 --> 00:51:05,614
But our girls didn't.
1108
00:51:05,648 --> 00:51:09,273
They were just so...
1109
00:51:09,307 --> 00:51:13,208
alive.
1110
00:51:13,242 --> 00:51:16,383
But we worried for them,
and...
1111
00:51:16,418 --> 00:51:18,558
we bought them a flat
in a nice part of town
1112
00:51:18,592 --> 00:51:20,870
and a good car
1113
00:51:20,905 --> 00:51:24,943
[Voice breaking] and tried
to keep them safe.
1114
00:51:24,978 --> 00:51:26,497
Still, just...
1115
00:51:27,636 --> 00:51:31,812
life just...
1116
00:51:31,847 --> 00:51:35,678
blows up.
1117
00:51:35,713 --> 00:51:38,543
It's just your worst fear.
1118
00:51:49,658 --> 00:51:53,351
Don't let 'em forget
about her.
1119
00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:55,250
Charge the bastard
for those other girls
1120
00:51:55,284 --> 00:51:58,667
and forget about Sarah.
1121
00:51:58,701 --> 00:52:01,601
I'll make sure they don't.
1122
00:52:01,635 --> 00:52:03,189
Yeah.
1123
00:52:08,849 --> 00:52:15,546
♪♪
1124
00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:18,411
Hey.
1125
00:52:18,445 --> 00:52:19,481
Which way you headed?
1126
00:52:19,515 --> 00:52:20,896
Mosman Park.
1127
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:23,278
Oh, that's okay. I'm headed
that way anyway.
1128
00:52:23,312 --> 00:52:25,418
Cool.
1129
00:52:25,452 --> 00:52:28,731
[Gasping]
1130
00:52:30,043 --> 00:52:32,701
[Cellphone rings]
1131
00:52:32,735 --> 00:52:34,323
Gav?
What time is it?
1132
00:52:34,358 --> 00:52:37,499
Gavin: I think she must
have seen his car.
1133
00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:38,948
It looked like a cab.
She'd just called one.
1134
00:52:38,983 --> 00:52:41,019
So she got in, and only
after he started out,
1135
00:52:41,054 --> 00:52:44,575
did she realize
that...it wasn't a cab.
1136
00:52:44,609 --> 00:52:46,611
Yeah, she would have
panicked then.
1137
00:52:46,646 --> 00:52:50,028
No, but Edwards,
he must have sweet-talked her.
1138
00:52:50,063 --> 00:52:51,444
No one heard anything
in Claremont,
1139
00:52:51,478 --> 00:52:53,963
so somehow he got her
to stay quiet.
1140
00:52:53,998 --> 00:52:57,933
That's what we always thought,
but how are you gonna prove
1141
00:52:57,967 --> 00:52:59,590
Sarah got in his car?
1142
00:52:59,624 --> 00:53:00,625
She might have--I'll prove it.
1143
00:53:00,660 --> 00:53:03,973
I'll prove it.
1144
00:53:04,008 --> 00:53:06,493
We don't know
what really happened that night.
1145
00:53:06,528 --> 00:53:08,599
No one does.
1146
00:53:08,633 --> 00:53:11,257
Defense will say
Sarah ran off with a guy
1147
00:53:11,291 --> 00:53:13,397
or went for a midnight swim
and drowned or any...
1148
00:53:13,431 --> 00:53:15,640
I don't really care
what defense has to say.
1149
00:53:15,675 --> 00:53:17,504
She got in his car.
1150
00:53:17,539 --> 00:53:19,368
But you have to be
able to prove it.
1151
00:53:19,403 --> 00:53:20,956
Just take a step back,
Gav, and...
1152
00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:24,649
I'm not stepping back.
We have to get him.
1153
00:53:24,684 --> 00:53:27,238
For Sarah.
For their family.
1154
00:53:27,273 --> 00:53:29,620
We have to get him.
I have to get him.
1155
00:53:29,654 --> 00:53:34,659
♪♪
1156
00:53:34,694 --> 00:53:37,524
I've gotta get him.
1157
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,872
A Telstra tech named Jeff Cohen
kept these since 1995.
1158
00:53:40,907 --> 00:53:42,771
Never even worn them.
1159
00:53:42,805 --> 00:53:45,291
ChemCentre tested them
and the fibers from the dye lot
1160
00:53:45,325 --> 00:53:46,775
are an exact match
to the fibers
1161
00:53:46,809 --> 00:53:48,708
found on Jane, Lisa,
and Ciara.
1162
00:53:48,742 --> 00:53:50,330
This blue is unique to Telstra?
1163
00:53:50,365 --> 00:53:52,332
The dye was developed
exclusively for them.
1164
00:53:52,367 --> 00:53:55,024
A different blue from police
uniforms or any other tradies.
1165
00:53:55,059 --> 00:53:58,062
This puts a Telstra worker at
the scene of all three crimes.
1166
00:53:58,096 --> 00:53:59,477
Edwards.
1167
00:53:59,512 --> 00:54:00,892
Car fibers,
these, they're good,
1168
00:54:00,927 --> 00:54:02,446
but they're circumstantial.
1169
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,896
This could be from
any Telstra worker.
1170
00:54:04,931 --> 00:54:06,795
Only the DNA on Ciara's nail
puts Edwards there.
1171
00:54:06,829 --> 00:54:09,315
That's enough, right?
1172
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:12,283
The lawyer that Edwards hired,
Paul Yovich, he's smart.
1173
00:54:12,318 --> 00:54:15,113
He knows he'll have to
create doubt about the DNA.
1174
00:54:15,148 --> 00:54:16,839
If I were Yovich, I'd suggest
1175
00:54:16,874 --> 00:54:19,048
there might have been
cross-contamination at the lab.
1176
00:54:19,083 --> 00:54:20,843
Can he prove that?
1177
00:54:20,878 --> 00:54:23,398
I'm afraid PathWest has a
history of cross-contamination.
1178
00:54:23,432 --> 00:54:26,884
But don't worry. I still think
that we can convict him
1179
00:54:26,918 --> 00:54:28,610
for Jane and Ciara's murder.
1180
00:54:28,644 --> 00:54:31,337
What about Sarah? You've gotta
get Sarah on the brief.
1181
00:54:31,371 --> 00:54:32,993
You can't let him walk
on her.
1182
00:54:33,028 --> 00:54:35,410
Once we prove Edwards' guilt
on Jane and Ciara
1183
00:54:35,444 --> 00:54:39,034
with the same MO,
the same propensity of evidence,
1184
00:54:39,068 --> 00:54:41,864
we should be able
to connect him to Sarah.
1185
00:54:41,899 --> 00:54:44,073
So you're gonna add Sarah
to the charge brief?
1186
00:54:44,108 --> 00:54:49,044
Yes. The Spiers deserve that.
But prepare yourself.
1187
00:54:49,078 --> 00:54:52,012
Justice Hall could still dismiss
her charge for lack of evidence.
1188
00:54:52,047 --> 00:54:54,014
Don't let him.Then I suggest, Detective,
1189
00:54:54,049 --> 00:54:55,775
that you get me
some more evidence
1190
00:54:55,809 --> 00:54:58,674
connecting Edwards
to Sarah Spiers.
1191
00:55:07,614 --> 00:55:09,513
Doesn't matter how many times
you look at it,
1192
00:55:09,547 --> 00:55:11,618
you still can't tell
it's Edwards.
1193
00:55:13,586 --> 00:55:17,037
It could be him.
1194
00:55:17,072 --> 00:55:19,108
If he'd just turn around.
1195
00:55:25,874 --> 00:55:28,842
Have you seen this?
1196
00:55:28,877 --> 00:55:30,982
I didn't even know
he was sick.
1197
00:55:31,017 --> 00:55:33,675
Cancer.
1198
00:55:33,709 --> 00:55:35,884
I got in his car.
1199
00:55:38,714 --> 00:55:41,614
Remember?
1200
00:55:41,648 --> 00:55:43,719
I said it was him.
1201
00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:50,070
I was so sure.
1202
00:55:50,105 --> 00:55:52,038
So was I.
1203
00:55:55,041 --> 00:55:56,767
You know,
if Lance had picked up Jane
1204
00:55:56,801 --> 00:55:59,977
or any of those girls...
1205
00:56:01,565 --> 00:56:04,015
...they'd still be alive.
1206
00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:10,125
But now you've got
the right guy.
1207
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:11,851
You have his DNA.
1208
00:56:11,885 --> 00:56:15,510
No way
is he getting out of this.
1209
00:56:15,544 --> 00:56:17,443
That's the thing. I didn't have
anything to do with the murders,
1210
00:56:17,477 --> 00:56:20,066
I swear.
And I've been thinking.
1211
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:23,000
I want to give evidence.
I want to...
1212
00:56:23,034 --> 00:56:24,933
I want to say that at trial.If you do that,
1213
00:56:24,967 --> 00:56:26,866
you could be on the stand
for six months in cross.
1214
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:29,558
And they can ask you anything.
You have to answer, in detail
1215
00:56:29,593 --> 00:56:30,663
and under oath.
1216
00:56:30,697 --> 00:56:32,768
I can do that.
1217
00:56:32,803 --> 00:56:34,183
Look, it is your decision
in the end.
1218
00:56:34,218 --> 00:56:36,082
Could you stop doing that?
Listen to me.
1219
00:56:36,116 --> 00:56:37,911
Putting you on the stand,
in my opinion,
1220
00:56:37,946 --> 00:56:41,259
that would be a mistake.
They'll push you hard, Bradley.
1221
00:56:41,294 --> 00:56:42,640
Okay.
1222
00:56:42,675 --> 00:56:46,920
But all this time
being locked up,
1223
00:56:46,955 --> 00:56:49,060
I've been searching
my conscience
1224
00:56:49,095 --> 00:56:52,132
and I want to plead guilty
1225
00:56:52,167 --> 00:56:57,137
to the assaults
at Huntingdale and Karrakatta.
1226
00:56:57,172 --> 00:56:59,692
Guilty?
Yep. Yep.
1227
00:56:59,726 --> 00:57:02,660
I was a different person
back then.
1228
00:57:02,695 --> 00:57:06,008
I snapped.
It wasn't really me.
1229
00:57:06,043 --> 00:57:09,184
♪♪
1230
00:57:09,218 --> 00:57:12,670
Plus, they've got that DNA
at both the crime scenes, right?
1231
00:57:12,705 --> 00:57:15,224
That'll hold up in court?Mm.
1232
00:57:15,259 --> 00:57:17,503
Those samples have been
locked away for 20 years.
1233
00:57:17,537 --> 00:57:18,745
They'll be convincing.
1234
00:57:18,780 --> 00:57:20,091
Right.
So that's what I'm thinking.
1235
00:57:20,126 --> 00:57:22,231
Bradley, I can't be
a party to any lies.
1236
00:57:22,266 --> 00:57:25,096
I'm not lying.
1237
00:57:25,131 --> 00:57:29,894
I did the assaults,
but I didn't do the murders.
1238
00:57:29,929 --> 00:57:32,172
I couldn't do that.
I'm not guilty of murder.
1239
00:57:32,207 --> 00:57:33,657
It's just, the cops
are pinning it on me
1240
00:57:33,691 --> 00:57:35,244
because they want
to blame somebody.
1241
00:57:35,279 --> 00:57:37,005
So if you plead guilty
to the assaults,
1242
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:39,179
you plead early, you save
the court time and money.
1243
00:57:39,214 --> 00:57:41,078
You could get
a reduced sentence.
1244
00:57:41,112 --> 00:57:43,011
And, of course,
with time in custody,
1245
00:57:43,045 --> 00:57:44,909
probably looking at three
or four years.
1246
00:57:44,944 --> 00:57:46,532
That's it?
1247
00:57:46,566 --> 00:57:48,844
And if I can prove
the cross-contamination of DNA
1248
00:57:48,879 --> 00:57:51,226
taken from Ciara Glennon,
1249
00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:53,090
you could be out
before you're 55.
1250
00:57:53,124 --> 00:57:57,232
♪♪
1251
00:57:57,266 --> 00:58:00,028
So -- So...
1252
00:58:00,062 --> 00:58:01,961
what about before,
1253
00:58:01,995 --> 00:58:03,272
pleading not guilty
to the assaults?
1254
00:58:03,307 --> 00:58:04,895
Can that work against me?
1255
00:58:04,929 --> 00:58:06,724
No, there's no law
against lying to the police.
1256
00:58:06,759 --> 00:58:09,037
Justice Hall can't let lying
about an earlier crime influence
1257
00:58:09,071 --> 00:58:10,866
his decision
about the murders.
1258
00:58:10,901 --> 00:58:16,700
Right. So pleading guilty to the
assaults is my best way forward?
1259
00:58:16,734 --> 00:58:19,530
If it's the truth.That's the truth.
1260
00:58:19,565 --> 00:58:21,325
In a shock announcement today,
Bradley Edwards,
1261
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:23,534
the accused
Claremont serial killer,
1262
00:58:23,569 --> 00:58:26,088
is now pleading guilty to rape
and assault charges
1263
00:58:26,123 --> 00:58:28,677
from 1988 and 1995.
1264
00:58:28,712 --> 00:58:30,368
Since his arrest,
1265
00:58:30,403 --> 00:58:33,717
Mr. Edwards has steadfastlyinsisted his innocence.
1266
00:58:33,751 --> 00:58:35,132
And though he is nowpleading guilty
1267
00:58:35,166 --> 00:58:36,927
to the rapeand assault charges,
1268
00:58:36,961 --> 00:58:39,170
he still maintainsthat he never killed anyone,
1269
00:58:39,205 --> 00:58:42,208
and will fight those charges
to the utmost of his abilities.
1270
00:58:42,242 --> 00:58:44,175
- Four years?
- With time in custody,
1271
00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:46,281
that's the minimum he could get
for the assault and rape.
1272
00:58:46,315 --> 00:58:48,076
For everything he did --
four years?
1273
00:58:48,110 --> 00:58:51,044
That won't happen.
Conviction on the murder charges
1274
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:53,150
will get him life
with no chance of parole.
1275
00:58:53,184 --> 00:58:54,703
If the DNA doesn't
get thrown out
1276
00:58:54,738 --> 00:58:56,671
on some bullshit
contamination argument.
1277
00:58:56,705 --> 00:58:58,362
Gav, we'll get him.We haven't
got him for 20 years, Nik.
1278
00:58:58,396 --> 00:58:59,915
This guy's
had the devil's luck
1279
00:58:59,950 --> 00:59:01,814
and I'm not certain
it's run out yet.
1280
00:59:01,848 --> 00:59:05,300
♪♪
1281
00:59:05,334 --> 00:59:07,164
Reporter: People lined up
outside the court
1282
00:59:07,198 --> 00:59:08,752
before sunrise,
hoping for a front-row seat.
1283
00:59:08,786 --> 00:59:10,339
Reporter #2:
...chilling day of evidence
1284
00:59:10,374 --> 00:59:12,825
from the opening of
the Claremont serial killings.
1285
00:59:12,859 --> 00:59:14,792
Reporter #3:...with a high level
of public interest.
1286
00:59:14,827 --> 00:59:16,691
Reporter #4: Edwards is charged
with the murders
1287
00:59:16,725 --> 00:59:18,106
of Sarah Spiers,
Jane Rimmer...
1288
00:59:18,140 --> 00:59:19,694
Reporter #5:
...trial by judge alone.
1289
00:59:19,728 --> 00:59:21,247
Reporter #6:
The three women disappeared...
1290
00:59:21,281 --> 00:59:23,629
If Trevor was alive,
he'd be here.
1291
00:59:23,663 --> 00:59:25,596
He loved Janey so much.
1292
00:59:25,631 --> 00:59:27,667
We pray for Ciara all the time.
1293
00:59:27,702 --> 00:59:30,877
When Una and I see a girl
around her...her age,
1294
00:59:30,912 --> 00:59:32,776
we think of her still.
1295
00:59:32,810 --> 00:59:36,883
Sarah had something different
about her to most other kids.
1296
00:59:36,918 --> 00:59:41,716
She had this lovely warmth
about her, didn't she?
1297
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:42,786
Yeah.
1298
00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:44,339
Alison: The trial of the century
1299
00:59:44,373 --> 00:59:47,100
in Western Australia
gets under way today.
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The amount of evidence
that's been gathered
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for this case
has been staggering.
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00:59:51,104 --> 00:59:54,625
Over 16,000 DNA samples
have been taken.
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00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:57,145
200 witnesses are expected
to be called,
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00:59:57,179 --> 01:00:00,424
with 10,000 pages
of interview transcripts,
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01:00:00,458 --> 01:00:04,670
110 gigabytes
of prosecution disclosures,
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01:00:04,704 --> 01:00:06,982
a million pages of evidence.
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01:00:07,017 --> 01:00:09,053
The DNA and fiber evidence alone
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01:00:09,088 --> 01:00:12,160
is said to be over
60,000 pages long.
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01:00:12,194 --> 01:00:20,099
♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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In a 14-month period,
three bright,
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beautiful young women vanished
from the streets of Claremont.
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There were so many questions
for which the lack of answers
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cemented a fear
that ran through the community,
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a fear that was caused
by an enigma of the dark.
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01:00:52,925 --> 01:00:57,792
In the coming months, the state
will demystify this enigma
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and prove
that there was one killer.
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And that killer
is Bradley Robert Edwards.
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The deaths of these young women
were unlawful killings.
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01:01:10,218 --> 01:01:12,772
There is no doubt
or dispute about that.
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01:01:12,807 --> 01:01:15,533
The issue is the identity
of the killer,
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and Bradley Edwards' defense
in each case is that.
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It wasn't him.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Woman: We were happyin the marriage at first.
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Um, but then he became obsessedwith his computer.
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01:01:40,282 --> 01:01:43,734
So, yeah, he would come homefrom work and disappear
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01:01:43,769 --> 01:01:47,738
into the spare room.He wasn't interested in me
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01:01:47,773 --> 01:01:50,914
and he wasn't presentin the marriage,
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01:01:50,948 --> 01:01:52,916
and stuff happened.
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01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:55,435
Oh! [Giggles]
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We were laughingand then she kissed me.
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Or I kissed her.I-I can't remember.
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01:02:03,961 --> 01:02:08,379
He didn't say anything.He just...walked away.
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01:02:08,414 --> 01:02:11,969
♪♪
1338
01:02:12,004 --> 01:02:15,904
You are one of what has become
known as the "Living Witnesses."
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01:02:15,939 --> 01:02:17,319
Yeah.
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01:02:17,354 --> 01:02:20,840
And what happened to you
in November of 1996?
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I'd been at Club Bayview.
I'd had a bit to drink.
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Um, and there were no cabs,
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but I was trying
to get to Shenton Park.
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I didn't care how, you know?
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It was a different time
back then.
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We didn't worry
about things like that.
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But then I saw a car,
and it looked like a taxi,
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and the driver stopped.
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01:02:41,205 --> 01:02:44,001
What kind of car was it?
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It looked like
a Holden station wagon.
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Can you give me a lift
to Shenton Park?
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01:02:49,041 --> 01:02:49,593
Bradley: Sure.
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♪♪
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01:02:52,078 --> 01:02:53,597
[Grunts]
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01:02:53,631 --> 01:02:55,875
Oh, hey, this isn't a taxi.
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Oh, that's alright.
I'll take you there anyway.
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I didn't feel unsafe,
but something made me say
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that I'd left my shoes up
on the road...
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and would it be okay
if I went to grab them?
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♪♪
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So I grabbed my shoes
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and two guys
that I'd been drinking with...
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Is it okay if you take
these guys, too?
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We're all going
to the same place.
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He didn't say anything.
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He just drove us
to Shenton Park.
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01:03:24,939 --> 01:03:29,012
Did you notice anything
about the car?
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It was a Telecom Telstra car.
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01:03:33,292 --> 01:03:39,574
♪♪
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When the sample
labeled AJM40,
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the sample taken
from Ciara Glennon's nail,
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was finally tested, did you
recover male DNA from it?
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Yes, we did.What was the result?
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The DNA matched the profile of
the defendant, Bradley Edwards.
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To clarify, when sample AJM40
was originally taken,
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how was it labeled?
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01:04:04,185 --> 01:04:07,050
What was written on the label
of the container in 1997?
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01:04:07,084 --> 01:04:11,261
Uh, "Debris only.
Not suitable for analysis."
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Not suitable for analysis.
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And yet more than
10 years later,
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somehow miraculously
it's suitable for testing.
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01:04:17,577 --> 01:04:19,062
Not miraculously.
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01:04:19,096 --> 01:04:21,029
The advancements
in DNA technology in the past...
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But at the time,
when it was first handled,
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it was labeled "Debris only."
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Have you considered
the possibility
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of cross-contamination
in your lab,
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where a bit of DNA gets
somewhere that it shouldn't?
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01:04:36,251 --> 01:04:38,046
Perhaps the right protocols
aren't being used
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and perhaps
the same pair of gloves
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are being worn
for two experiments.
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Of course we consider it,
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and we take all necessary
precautions to make sure
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01:04:46,468 --> 01:04:48,608
contamination doesn't happen,
but in this case...
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Doesn't PathWest have a poor
record of cross-contamination?
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I would say, of the hundreds
and thousands of tests,
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01:04:53,993 --> 01:04:55,477
we have a very good
record of...
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When intimate swabs
collected from Jane Rimmer
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were analyzed in 2017
by UK laboratory Cellmark,
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did they show the DNA profile
matching that of a male --
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01:05:05,660 --> 01:05:08,421
not you, sir --
PathWest scientist?
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01:05:08,456 --> 01:05:10,389
Yes, they did.When intimate swabs
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01:05:10,423 --> 01:05:14,255
collected from Ciara Glennon
were analyzed in 2017,
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01:05:14,289 --> 01:05:17,534
did they yield the profile of
yet another -- not you, sir --
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01:05:17,568 --> 01:05:19,363
PathWest scientist?
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01:05:21,814 --> 01:05:23,574
Yes.
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01:05:23,609 --> 01:05:26,370
And we've all seen videos
collected from the crime scene.
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Police officers
not wearing gloves.
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01:05:28,821 --> 01:05:32,376
No shoe protection.
No forensic overalls.
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It was a different time.
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01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,416
Indeed it was.
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01:05:37,450 --> 01:05:39,383
When Mr. Edwards
was employed at Telstra,
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01:05:39,418 --> 01:05:41,730
was he ever called to PathWest
to repair the phones?
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01:05:41,765 --> 01:05:46,804
♪♪
1415
01:05:46,839 --> 01:05:50,981
Not -- Not to my knowledge,
no.
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01:05:51,016 --> 01:05:54,812
Not to your knowledge.
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01:05:54,847 --> 01:05:56,297
There were bombshells in court
today,
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where cross-contamination
claims
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had the prosecution
on their heels.
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The verdict in this case
seems to be in the balance.
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01:06:02,096 --> 01:06:04,684
Hey, what's all this rubbish
you're broadcasting about?
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01:06:04,719 --> 01:06:07,411
Do you really believe there's
cross-contamination of his DNA?
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01:06:07,446 --> 01:06:08,516
I'm just reporting
what was said.
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He murdered three women.
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01:06:10,483 --> 01:06:11,829
Are you trying to help
get him off?
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01:06:11,864 --> 01:06:13,659
I'm just reporting
what was said in court.
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01:06:13,693 --> 01:06:18,250
Listen, people don't want
to speak to you anymore, okay?
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01:06:18,284 --> 01:06:19,320
They're fuckin' pissed off.
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01:06:19,354 --> 01:06:21,287
You heard the evidence.
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01:06:21,322 --> 01:06:23,565
Edwards might be acquitted.
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01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,740
Everyone needs to be
prepared for that.
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01:06:30,158 --> 01:06:33,023
Judge: Mr. Yovich,
the State has closed.
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01:06:33,058 --> 01:06:35,750
Is the defense ready to proceed?
1434
01:06:35,784 --> 01:06:37,752
Your Honor,
the defense is closed.
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01:06:37,786 --> 01:06:40,099
What? You're not going
to be calling any witnesses?
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01:06:40,134 --> 01:06:41,618
No, Your Honor,
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01:06:41,652 --> 01:06:44,793
we will address the case
in our closing statement.
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01:06:44,828 --> 01:06:47,072
Mr. Edwards,
can you please stand?
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01:06:47,106 --> 01:06:51,455
♪♪
1440
01:06:51,490 --> 01:06:53,871
The decision to give evidence
is entirely yours,
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01:06:53,906 --> 01:06:55,735
but given the importance
of this case,
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01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:59,463
do you wish to make any
statement in your own defense?
1443
01:06:59,498 --> 01:07:01,224
No, Your Honor.
1444
01:07:01,258 --> 01:07:06,781
♪♪
1445
01:07:06,815 --> 01:07:08,610
Nearly seven months ago,
the State
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01:07:08,645 --> 01:07:12,131
made reference
to an enigma of the dark
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01:07:12,166 --> 01:07:15,238
and promised to shed light
on that enigma.
1448
01:07:15,272 --> 01:07:18,310
It's the forensic evidence
that has cast light
1449
01:07:18,344 --> 01:07:20,208
and unmasked a killer.
1450
01:07:20,243 --> 01:07:24,281
The fibers, the DNA.
1451
01:07:24,316 --> 01:07:30,080
One offender is responsible
for the murders of Sarah Spiers,
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01:07:30,115 --> 01:07:33,325
Jane Rimmer, and Ciara Glennon.
1453
01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:39,572
Bradley Robert Edwards,
we say, is the Claremont killer.
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01:07:39,607 --> 01:07:44,508
One-fifth of one-billionth
of one gram.
1455
01:07:44,543 --> 01:07:48,788
That's how much DNA was found
on Ciara Glennon's nail.
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01:07:48,823 --> 01:07:50,652
Your Honor,
are you able to be satisfied,
1457
01:07:50,687 --> 01:07:52,516
beyond reasonable doubt,
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01:07:52,551 --> 01:07:54,898
the DNA finding
is only explicable on the basis
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01:07:54,932 --> 01:07:58,350
that the accused killed
Ciara Glennon?
1460
01:07:58,384 --> 01:08:01,456
Contamination events are rare,
but they do happen,
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01:08:01,491 --> 01:08:04,390
and they only
have to happen once.
1462
01:08:04,425 --> 01:08:06,289
The carpet fibers,
the pant fibers,
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01:08:06,323 --> 01:08:09,119
they could come from
any Telstra employee.
1464
01:08:09,154 --> 01:08:11,156
The only actual evidence
that my client
1465
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:12,674
might be the Claremont killer
1466
01:08:12,709 --> 01:08:16,506
is the DNA that was found
on Ciara Glennon's nail.
1467
01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:19,750
Are you willing, Your Honor,
to put a man in jail
1468
01:08:19,785 --> 01:08:23,892
for the rest of his life
on that evidence?
1469
01:08:23,927 --> 01:08:28,138
One-fifth of one-billionth
of one gram.
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01:08:28,173 --> 01:08:30,313
[Suspenseful music plays]
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♪♪
1472
01:08:36,836 --> 01:08:40,150
♪♪
1473
01:08:46,536 --> 01:08:49,366
♪♪
1474
01:08:49,401 --> 01:08:58,824
♪♪
1475
01:08:58,858 --> 01:09:08,420
♪♪
1476
01:09:08,454 --> 01:09:17,912
♪♪
1477
01:09:17,946 --> 01:09:27,508
♪♪
1478
01:09:27,542 --> 01:09:28,957
[Cellphone rings]
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01:09:28,992 --> 01:09:30,545
[Sighs]
1480
01:09:34,446 --> 01:09:35,826
Wyatt.
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01:09:35,861 --> 01:09:39,002
Carmel: Hello, Gavin.
The verdict's in.
1482
01:09:39,036 --> 01:09:40,314
Do you know what it says?
1483
01:09:40,348 --> 01:09:43,213
No.
Just get to the court.
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01:09:43,248 --> 01:09:44,732
♪♪
1485
01:09:44,766 --> 01:09:47,597
Reporter: After a 20-year
police investigation
1486
01:09:47,631 --> 01:09:50,462
and subsequent
seven-month Supreme Court trial,
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01:09:50,496 --> 01:09:51,980
we'll finally get a verdict...
1488
01:09:52,015 --> 01:09:54,224
Reporter #2: The Claremont
serial killings trial...
1489
01:09:54,259 --> 01:09:56,640
Onlookers came here
earlier today,
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01:09:56,675 --> 01:09:58,021
queuing up on the steps...
1491
01:09:58,055 --> 01:09:59,264
♪♪
1492
01:09:59,298 --> 01:10:03,509
This is a trial like no other.
1493
01:10:03,544 --> 01:10:05,408
It's a trial like no other
because of its size
1494
01:10:05,442 --> 01:10:07,272
and high degree of interest.
1495
01:10:09,515 --> 01:10:13,588
Three women went missing
from a popular nightlife area
1496
01:10:13,623 --> 01:10:15,452
frequented by many young people.
1497
01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:20,492
It inspired a pervasive fear
in the entire Perth community.
1498
01:10:20,526 --> 01:10:22,770
But it's a trial
like every other,
1499
01:10:22,804 --> 01:10:26,429
because the accused
is presumed innocent
1500
01:10:26,463 --> 01:10:30,260
and the State must prove its
case beyond reasonable doubt.
1501
01:10:30,295 --> 01:10:32,607
I am satisfied
that the evidence
1502
01:10:32,642 --> 01:10:37,336
establishes that each of the
victims was abducted and killed.
1503
01:10:37,371 --> 01:10:40,028
The issue, therefore,
is the identity of the killer,
1504
01:10:40,063 --> 01:10:41,478
or killers.
1505
01:10:41,513 --> 01:10:43,687
Having regard
to the DNA evidence
1506
01:10:43,722 --> 01:10:46,483
and the propensity evidence,
1507
01:10:46,518 --> 01:10:48,968
I am satisfied
beyond reasonable doubt
1508
01:10:49,003 --> 01:10:51,039
that Bradley Edwards
was the killer
1509
01:10:51,074 --> 01:10:55,561
of Ms. Rimmer and Ms. Glennon.
1510
01:10:55,596 --> 01:10:58,978
Mr. Edwards chose
semi-rural locations
1511
01:10:59,013 --> 01:11:01,049
and hid the bodies
with the intention of minimizing
1512
01:11:01,084 --> 01:11:03,845
the chances of them being found
1513
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,675
and his offenses
being discovered.
1514
01:11:05,709 --> 01:11:08,988
♪♪
1515
01:11:09,023 --> 01:11:10,542
In respect of Ms. Spiers,
1516
01:11:10,576 --> 01:11:14,615
I have reached
the following conclusions.
1517
01:11:14,649 --> 01:11:16,410
There are some similarities
1518
01:11:16,444 --> 01:11:19,827
between the circumstances
of Ms. Spiers' disappearance
1519
01:11:19,861 --> 01:11:22,761
and the death of Ms. Rimmer
and Ms. Glennon.
1520
01:11:22,795 --> 01:11:26,661
But they do not allow
for a conclusion to be reached
1521
01:11:26,696 --> 01:11:28,353
that the person responsible
1522
01:11:28,387 --> 01:11:30,976
for the killing of Ms. Glennon
and Ms. Rimmer
1523
01:11:31,010 --> 01:11:36,015
must necessarily be the same
person as who killed Ms. Spiers.
1524
01:11:36,050 --> 01:11:37,741
The propensity
of evidence suggests
1525
01:11:37,776 --> 01:11:42,608
it is likely
that the accused was the killer.
1526
01:11:42,643 --> 01:11:47,164
But it cannot be proved
beyond reasonable doubt.
1527
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:49,960
So, based on those findings,
1528
01:11:49,995 --> 01:11:51,721
the verdict must be...
1529
01:11:51,755 --> 01:11:53,654
on count six,
1530
01:11:53,688 --> 01:11:56,691
the willful murder
of Sarah Spiers --
1531
01:11:56,726 --> 01:11:57,899
not guilty.
1532
01:11:57,934 --> 01:12:06,598
♪♪
1533
01:12:06,632 --> 01:12:15,123
♪♪
1534
01:12:15,158 --> 01:12:23,787
♪♪
1535
01:12:23,822 --> 01:12:30,794
♪♪
1536
01:12:30,829 --> 01:12:37,801
♪♪
1537
01:12:37,836 --> 01:12:44,808
♪♪
1538
01:12:44,843 --> 01:12:52,782
♪♪
1539
01:12:52,816 --> 01:13:00,755
♪♪
1540
01:13:00,790 --> 01:13:08,729
♪♪
1541
01:13:08,763 --> 01:13:10,834
[No audio]
1542
01:13:10,869 --> 01:13:19,947
♪♪
1543
01:13:19,981 --> 01:13:22,467
Denis:
We pray for Ciara all the time.
1544
01:13:22,501 --> 01:13:26,091
Whenever Una and I see
a young woman of Ciara's age,
1545
01:13:26,125 --> 01:13:28,265
well, we think of her still.
1546
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:32,200
I always said that Ciara...
1547
01:13:32,235 --> 01:13:33,892
Ciara would fight for her life.
1548
01:13:33,926 --> 01:13:37,689
Little did I know how --
well, how...
1549
01:13:37,723 --> 01:13:39,967
prophetic
those words would be.
1550
01:13:40,001 --> 01:13:49,528
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1551
01:13:49,563 --> 01:13:59,296
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1552
01:13:59,331 --> 01:14:09,203
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1553
01:14:09,237 --> 01:14:12,793
It's hard to understand.
1554
01:14:12,827 --> 01:14:16,210
We interviewed 16,000 men
1555
01:14:16,244 --> 01:14:18,488
and his name never came up.
1556
01:14:18,523 --> 01:14:20,870
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1557
01:14:20,904 --> 01:14:23,251
He was never on our radar.
1558
01:14:23,286 --> 01:14:25,115
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1559
01:14:25,150 --> 01:14:28,774
And it's hard not to wonder
1560
01:14:28,809 --> 01:14:31,743
what Sarah's life...and ours
would be like
1561
01:14:31,777 --> 01:14:34,297
if she hadn't been
taken from us.
1562
01:14:35,781 --> 01:14:39,682
She would have had kids.
1563
01:14:39,716 --> 01:14:43,202
You say something, love?
1564
01:14:43,237 --> 01:14:45,204
Sarah loved kids.
1565
01:14:57,803 --> 01:15:01,048
This isn't over.
1566
01:15:01,082 --> 01:15:03,222
We'll keep looking for her.
1567
01:15:07,054 --> 01:15:10,713
Thanks for everything
you've done for us, Detective.
1568
01:15:10,747 --> 01:15:12,784
You treated us right.
1569
01:15:12,818 --> 01:15:19,135
♪♪
1570
01:15:19,169 --> 01:15:23,380
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1571
01:15:23,415 --> 01:15:33,149
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1572
01:15:33,183 --> 01:15:42,883
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1573
01:15:42,917 --> 01:15:51,650
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1574
01:15:51,685 --> 01:15:56,690
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1575
01:15:56,724 --> 01:16:01,695
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1576
01:16:01,729 --> 01:16:10,324
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1577
01:16:10,358 --> 01:16:19,747
♪♪
1578
01:16:19,782 --> 01:16:28,273
♪♪
1579
01:16:28,307 --> 01:16:35,694
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1580
01:16:35,729 --> 01:16:43,909
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1581
01:16:43,944 --> 01:16:53,125
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1582
01:16:53,160 --> 01:17:02,341
♪♪
1583
01:17:02,376 --> 01:17:04,654
[Women vocalizing]
1584
01:17:04,689 --> 01:17:11,696
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1585
01:17:11,730 --> 01:17:21,740
♪♪
1586
01:17:39,378 --> 01:17:48,698
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1587
01:17:48,733 --> 01:17:57,949
♪♪
1588
01:17:57,983 --> 01:18:07,234
♪♪
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