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[people chanting]
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[Brian Posehn] The early 1980s.
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[male voice 1] 12 million people
are unemployed in our country,
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1.3 million of them in California,
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more than 150,000 right here
in the Bay Area,
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like this self-styled Reaganville
near the railroad tracks in Berkeley.
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[male voice 2] Those are the conditions
for tough times and real struggle.
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[Ronald Reagan] I regret to say...
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that we're in the worst economic mess
since the Great Depression.
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[music playing]
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[Brian Posehn]
The San Francisco Bay Area,
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located on the Western edge
of the continental United States,
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has a long history of supporting
new music and free expression,
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from jazz experimentation,
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to beat poetry, to rock and roll.
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By 1980,
with the American economy in recession,
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a new group of teenagers came of age,
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and they wanted a new music.
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Something faster, something heavier,
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something that mirrored their own lives
and not the previous generations.
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From far away Europe, heavy metal sounds
were slowly rippling westward,
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carried by word of mouth,
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a few rare, imported records,
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some bootleg cassette tapes,
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and music magazines.
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But California was too far away
for most of these bands to tour here.
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So the young music fans
of the Bay Area did what we do best.
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We didn't wait for the music we wanted.
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We created our own.
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[interviewer] Are we rolling?
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Right, I just want to say one thing first:
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Posers must die!
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[male voice] We were out of our minds.
We were kind of crazy.
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We were just kids.
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Kids run amok.
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[male voice 2]
It was scary, and it was dark.
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[Alex Skolnick]
It's this outlet for angst.
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I'm Alex Skolnick,
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born and raised in Berkeley, California.
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Hey, I'm James Hetfield from Metallica.
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This is the music you don't want
your parents to hear.
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Gary Holt.
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David Ellefson, bassist for Megadeth.
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I don't need to say my name.
Everybody watching this knows who I am.
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[chuckles]
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We were doing it for chicks and beer,
and I didn't drink.
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My name's Chuck Billy.
I grew up in Dublin, California.
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[Mark Osegueda]
And the pits were violent as hell.
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Mark Osegueda
from the San Francisco Bay Area.
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Phil Demmel from Dublin, California.
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The volume, the craziness, was epic.
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Wow, we've got to do more of this.
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Robb Flynn, Oakland, California.
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My name's Rick Hunolt.
I played guitar for Exodus.
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People have passion for the metal.
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There's no distinction between
the bands and the fans.
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We called it The Land Of Misfit Toys.
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People in our scene, we felt invincible.
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It was about survival. It was like... Aah!
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[male voice] Exodus had
the destruction recipe. [laughs]
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If Exodus was playing, we were there.
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[whispers] That's Paul Baloff.
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Kirk came up with a name,
and we were just like... wow.
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What was the question again?
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My name is Lars Ulrich,
and I'm from Denmark.
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- Tom Ara ya.
- [Phil Demmel] Fucking Slayer.
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[Tom Ara ya]
Singer and bass player for Slayer.
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[male voice] I got goosebumps talking
about it right now, man.
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My name is Paul Bostaph.
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Larry Lalonde, El Sereno, California.
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Charlie Benante,
and I'm from the Bronx, New York.
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Dave Lombardo, South East, LA.
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There was an aura
of watching history happen.
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East Bay guys. They played before us,
and that was kind of a mistake.
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I am Robert Trujillo.
I'm from Santa Monica, California.
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There goes that guy
who was in Metallica. What's he up to?
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It wasn't as exciting as
you thought it would be, was it?
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♪ Murder in the front row ♪
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♪ Bang your head against the stage ♪
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♪ And metal takes its price ♪
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♪ Bonded by blood ♪
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[Kirk Hammett] We were far away
from the city. We were isolated.
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There was nothing to do.
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All we had was music, you know?
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It was a pilgrimage, you know.
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We would mow a few lawns,
save a few bucks,
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take the Alameda across the county...
Bus transit...
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To the BART station,
take BART to Berkeley,
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and walk up to Telegraph.
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It's the... Uh...
W-we went to all the hard rock stuff,
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you know, Aerosmith, Deep Purple,
Black Sabbath,
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Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy.
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Anything and everything that was around
that had an edge,
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that was loud and energetic,
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I just went to.
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Kirk was the first guy
to ever play me, like,
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Uli Roth-era Scorpions,
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and that was the first day
we ever hung out.
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And that was when we met at his house
to go see Ted Nugent and the Scorpions.
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But there was other stuff coming out
of England and Germany
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that nobody was really was partial to
on a large scale,
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other than the kids that I knew.
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The kids of my age, uh,
were listening to disco.
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They were listening to pop,
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and I just wasn't really
interested in that.
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We all went to the same record stores.
There was very few.
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There was something
that I just wasn't getting enough of
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until I heard this one band called UFO.
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And they had the heaviness.
They had the intensity.
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They had the energy.
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They had the musicianship.
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They had a guitar player
that was sent from heaven
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named Michael Schenker.
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Me and John Marshall
became obsessed with UFO.
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[guitar solo playing]
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I was hanging out up in Berkeley
in April or May of 1980,
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and I was walking along
Telegraph Avenue.
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[Harald Oimen] You'd see him down
on Telegraph and Berkeley all the time.
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[Lars Ulrich] As I was walking,
I heard a Motorhead song.
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[Harald Oimen] You could hear him coming
from a block or two away, you know?
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A total character.
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[Lars Ulrich] There was this
crazy skinny, tall dude.
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[Erik Lannon] Denim vest on, long hair,
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big Thin Lizzy Chinatown patch
on his back,
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and he was playing Motorhead
on his boombox.
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You know, up... up on his shoulder.
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This is back in the day when you'd carry
a big boombox
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that needed, like, D cells,
like, ten of them.
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He had this boombox about this big
on his shoulder, and he would just be...
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[Lars Ulrich] Blasting Motorhead,
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and that was Rich Burch.
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This shit was so loud
it was like a Memorex commercial.
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Whoa, who's that guy?
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That seems like somebody we should know.
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[Lars Ulrich] Very quickly I got invited
to hang out with some of his crew
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and ended up in a place
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in the Golden Gate Park
called Strawberry Hill,
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where I met Ron Quintana,
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Ian Kallen.
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It was the beginning of getting to know
that crew of people that were all
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the Iron Maiden/Motorhead/Saxon/
Diamond Head/Merciful Fate fanatics.
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By 1980, music sucked.
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Being a kid in San Francisco,
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radio was going downhill disco.
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And so, radio stations were really bad.
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And luckily there was KUSF,
which could play harder punk stuff.
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So that's where you'd first hear UFO
maybe once in a while.
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And at high school I ran into a friend,
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and he said, "You've got to go to
this store called the Record Vault.
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It's amazing."
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I got on the bus.
I headed up, walked in,
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and it was like walking into Mecca.
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It was dark. It was cool.
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There was Motorhead playing,
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and all over the walls
was everything that I was into.
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We'd find all this great,
imported metal, you know?
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Budgie, and Venom, and Diamond Head,
and Sweet Savage demos.
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All this stuff that we really loved
that you weren't going to find at,
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like, you know, Tower Records.
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Back then you'd be hanging out
in the record store for two, three hours.
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You only have $20 bucks in your pocket,
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so you were trying to figure out
which two records to buy.
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You know, it took a while.
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It was the place everybody came
to find out things.
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It was the place everybody came
to buy their new release,
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to get their copy of
Metal Mania, Ardschok, Kerrangl, whatever.
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And it was awesome.
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It was an amazing experience
just to go there
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and... and see all these like minded people
that were there, too,
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shopping for the same stuff,
and they're all wearing vests,
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and back patches, and into metal
and into all this underground stuff.
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The record stores would have
the albums set up on the wall
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and on a little shelf,
so you could see the cover,
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and there was the first
Iron Maiden album cover with Eddie on it.
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You know, it was, like...
Oh, shit, look at that!
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Down in Southern California,
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my place was called Middle Earth...
Middle Earth Records.
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And, you know, you'd have to go in
and order the record.
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There was such an anticipation
around getting it.
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All the different bands, you know,
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all these different,
unique sounds and styles,
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and we were just...
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We just dove head first into it.
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I gravitated towards these metal bands
because they were an escape.
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You listen to an Iron Maiden song,
and they're talking about
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a fantasy, that was no different,
in my head, to a Stephen King novel.
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Yes, there were murders.
Yes, there were Satanic things.
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It was fantasy.
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It didn't make me want to go out
and slaughter babies or anything.
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It was an escape
from my suburban, teenage life.
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This is a... just a drawing of Eddie.
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I was a huge Iron Maiden fan,
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and obviously I should've been paying
more attention in geometry.
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I got a 27 out of 52.
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[Brian Posehn] The compact cassette tape
came of age in the 19705.
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Inexpensive and easy to record,
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tape-traders quickly adopted it
as a means of spreading the newest sounds.
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In the pages of Kerrangl,
they would have pen pal ads.
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Kerrang! would run them for free.
That's what started everything.
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That's how I found out about
Brian Lew and KJ Doughton.
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KJ had a ton of Maiden,
and so did Brian.
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So that was cool.
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That was another big staple
of the movement.
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Everyone had their demo and bootleg list,
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and they'd ask for the other person's list
and trade tapes.
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Back then it was snail mail, and tapes,
and stamps, and handwritten letters.
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All of a sudden I was getting letters
from people in Germany, Holland, France,
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England, New York, Chicago.
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It just opened up this whole worldview.
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I had been now trading
with so many people, getting tapes
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and fanzines from England, mainly.
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This list kept growing from two,
three, four, five, six pages.
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And then I realized...
Well, I want to do a fanzine,
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and I started to add pictures in July.
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And it became Metal Mania
by August of 1981.
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When I first met Ron,
he made me a compilation tape.
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I mean, it was the thing to do.
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It was part of the conversation back then
in the early '805.
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The thing that maybe has become
the misconception over the years about
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the tape-trading network is
we weren't dubbing albums.
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We were dubbing live bootlegs.
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You know, at that time
part of being a music fan
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is you wanted to own the record.
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You wanted to own
the seven-inch single,
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because it made you feel part
of something bigger.
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In high school,
they had a guitar class,
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and it was literally 30 people
learning how to play guitar.
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And in that class was Mark Biederman,
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who was eventually
in Blind Illusion, and Kirk.
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Before Gary was in the band, you know,
when it was just Kirk and them, uh...
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they would... they sometimes rehearsed
at our rehearsal space, you know?
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And Kirk and I
were in Mr. Bee's class together,
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the guitar class.
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We were kind of just... mostly just, like,
learning our instruments.
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And, you know, Kirk turned me
on to so many different kinds of music.
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Like, I had never heard
UFO or the Scorpions.
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All we had was music, you know?
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And then when we got into the music,
all we had were each other.
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And you know, we wanted to take it
to the next level, so we got instruments.
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And I think that
the anger of being in a place
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that just didn't have enough
to offer, you know,
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the frustration of being bored.
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I think a lot of that got channeled
into our instruments.
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♪ I'm gonna be a rock n roll star ♪
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♪ I got a girl from that day ♪
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[Brian Posehn] In Los Angeles,
a new heavy metal was beginning to rise.
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In December of 1980,
a friend of mine and I...
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Who were the only two people, by the way,
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at the time who knew anything about
the New Wave of British Heavy Metal,
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went to see Michael Schenker Group
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play at a place called
the Country Club in Reseda.
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After the show, my friend John
was in the parking lot,
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and he saw some kid
wearing a Saxon European T-shirt.
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Now, in 1980 nobody knew
who Saxon was in LA,
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let alone had a European T-shirt.
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And that of course
was a kid named Lars Ulrich.
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Fast-forward to when
James and I had the band.
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One thing led to another,
and we started playing in LA.
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A year-and-a-half or so later,
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we got the idea to do a compilation album.
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Lars called me up one day and said,
"If I put together a band,
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can I be on your album?"
I'm like, of course. Absolutely.
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So Lars and me are always talking
about doing a magazine.
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"We need a store, man.
Let's just start a club and hang out."
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And Lars, in his way,
you know, he was, like,
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"Oh, that's cool.
That's a good idea, man."
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He showed me a list
of his future band or club names.
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So he had, like, generic, hot-rod-y
American car names:
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Thunderbolt, [chuckles]
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Metal Mania, Metallica.
He had a huge list of names.
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That ended up being some band
that starts with an "M".
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I think it was Metallica,
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that we misspelled on the very first
[chuckles] version of the record.
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Lars always was able
to make things happen.
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Somehow he landed them
a gig opening for Saxon.
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James didn't play guitar.
He just sang.
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And Dave Mustaine played guitar.
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Their set consisted of "Hit the Lights,"
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"Blitzkrieg" by Blitzkrieg,
and about five Diamond Head covers.
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And that was pretty much it.
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The selection of the cover songs
we did I think
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was a little bit more, uh, involved,
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because we all kind of had a say
in what bands we liked.
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When Metal Mania 5 came out
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right after Metallica
played their very first shows ever.
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So, Lars helped write an article
about his show
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and this great new band, Metallica.
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He wrote this little article,
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uh, about L.A. heavy metal
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and young metal attack Metallica,
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and this is the very first article ever,
uh, of Metallica,
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and of course it was written
by Lars. [chuckles]
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But they never really quite fit in
with the LA. crowd.
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We got gigs when we could,
as many as we could.
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And, you know,
we got kicked out of a few clubs
296
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because they thought we were
a punk rock band.
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With Brian Slagel's help,
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we were able to go up
to the San Francisco area
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mm a few other LA. bands.
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Man, it was on.
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[heavy metal song playing]
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[Sven Soderlund] When they came up
to San Francisco,
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and they saw the energy
that was involved,
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they just wanted to be in that element.
305
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And it helped them tremendously,
and it helped us grow as a scene
306
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in San Francisco
and the Bay Area, as well.
307
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A lot of bands came out of the East Bay.
308
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A lot of musicians came out
of the East Bay.
309
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The East Bay is a fucked up place.
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In the '705 and early 805,
it had high unemployment,
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high crime rate,
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and it was a boring place.
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My mom worked a lot,
314
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so, like, in the daytime I had a lot of—-
a lot of free time to myself
315
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to just jam out at home.
316
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We were ghetto kids, you know?
We... we stole shit, you know?
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Like, there's the time
the Wagon Wheel liquor store
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in Pinole burned down, right?
319
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You know, most people stay away
from, like, burnt out buildings.
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Not Exodus.
We crawled through the wreckage,
321
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because there was dozens and dozens
of bottles of alcohol in there.
322
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I actually met Gary shoplifting
when we were going to junior high school.
323
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We had nothing given to us.
324
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We stole some of our first equipment.
325
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Gary was a friend of mine from Richmond,
326
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and he was kind of, like, helping us out
with gear and stuff like that.
327
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And then Kirk gave him
a guitar lesson, and...
328
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[imitates explosion] Wow.
329
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Taught me how to play guitar, you know?
I hold a pick the way I do,
330
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I fret a bar chord the way I do.
331
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We do it exactly the same,
because he showed me.
332
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Here's how you hold a pick.
333
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So, all right,
I'll hold a pick like that, then.
334
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It was Kirk saying,
yeah, I want to jam with people
335
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finding guys that played,
and making it happen.
336
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I remember walking into this party,
not knowing anyone,
337
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seeing this one short guy
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with hair that was just
like mushroom-shaped,
339
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super long, and he was talking like this
and, like, you know, was cracking jokes,
340
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and some of it was pretty funny, you know.
341
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And he started talking about music.
342
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He's like, "Oh, yeah, Judas Priest.
343
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So heavy, so heavy.
Oh, Maiden is so heavy, so heavy."
344
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And I said to him,
"Hey, bro, you know UFO?"
345
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He goes, "Rock bottom, Rock bottom,"
346
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And starts singing "Rock Bottom" to me.
347
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♪ Seventeen and nature's queen a“
348
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I looked at him and said,
349
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"You're going to be the singer
of our new band, Exodus."
350
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He's like, "OK."
351
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Then from that minute on
we were inseparable.
352
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His name was
Pablo Nikolaivich Paulakersokoff.
353
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It means son of Nicholas in Russian.
He was a blue blood Russian.
354
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He was a little tiny guy,
very aggressive.
355
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A strong, thick, 100-percent Russian man.
356
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Paul was Paul, take it or leave it.
357
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I mean, he had so much charisma
358
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and so much energy
that you just wanted to be around him.
359
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He couldn't sing that well,
but he could sing good enough.
360
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♪ Slicing jaws, a way of life
Brought up to waste mankind ♪
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♪ Loki's pets his little children
Deadly every time ♪
362
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That's where the line-up
really came together,
363
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you know, it's when
we found the band's voice, you know.
364
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Baloff wasn't a singer when we met him.
He was just a headbanger like us.
365
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When Exodus played,
they just got the crowd completely insane.
366
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[Ron Quintana over radio]
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[thrash metal song playing]
368
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Paul's first show was
at the Ducal Palace in Alameda,
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which is some little hall pizza joint
kind of place, you know?
370
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And I remember, like,
I knew he was the right guy for the job
371
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because it was one of those places
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that's got a stage
that's about a foot high.
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And next thing you know,
he's over on top of the tables,
374
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and he's just rocking them
fiercely like that,
375
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trying to break them.
It was just... It was just fucking awesome.
376
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He checked everyone's attitude
377
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and made sure that
if you're hanging out with us,
378
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you're into the music,
you knew the music,
379
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and you weren't an F'in' poser.
380
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[thrash metal song playing]
381
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[Brian Slagel] I was friends
with all the people in San Francisco.
382
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There was a really great
scene going on up there,
383
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so I was able to put together
a Metal Massacre show
384
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at the Stone in San Francisco, which
was one of the big... big clubs there.
385
00:18:27,981 --> 00:18:30,150
So it was going to be
three bands from LA.
386
00:18:30,442 --> 00:18:32,712
And I called up Lars and said,
"Hey, one of the bands dropped out.
387
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We have this gig up in San Francisco.
You guys want to do it?"
388
00:18:34,779 --> 00:18:37,741
Uh... We weren't one
of the three bigger bands.
389
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We weren't even first
on the agenda there,
390
00:18:39,743 --> 00:18:42,037
but we got invited when somebody canceled.
391
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[James Hetfield] So we hopped in
Ron McGovney's pickup truck with our gear,
392
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and off we went
with a trailer in the back.
393
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[Dave Mustaine] Some of you might
even heard our Demo Tape.
394
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[crowd cheering]
395
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[Sven Soderlund] There were only
a handful of people there.
396
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I know a lot of people
claimed to have been there.
397
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I was actually given this shirt by their
original bass player, Ron McGovney.
398
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[Brian Slagel] And that was
the most amazing evening I ever saw,
399
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because in LA. they were outcast.
Nobody knew.
400
00:19:06,853 --> 00:19:10,148
And we went up to San Francisco,
and that place went crazy.
401
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[Brian Posehn] In September 1982,
402
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Metallica played their first show
in San Francisco.
403
00:19:16,279 --> 00:19:18,990
The reaction was immediate and explosive.
404
00:19:19,574 --> 00:19:21,284
My mom didn't let me go.
405
00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:25,497
[Ron Quintana] Dave had this charisma
that just took over the band,
406
00:19:25,789 --> 00:19:27,165
and when Metallica played,
407
00:19:27,457 --> 00:19:29,560
I thought he was going
to be, like, the next superstar,
408
00:19:29,584 --> 00:19:33,046
I mean, 'cause he was
so crazy on stage, and funny.
409
00:19:33,338 --> 00:19:35,674
Who the fuck's the frontman,
you or him?
410
00:19:36,174 --> 00:19:38,343
And I liked it 'cause,
you know, I've got a big mouth.
411
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[chuckles] I like to talk.
412
00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:46,309
Some of those people that I had befriended
for the previous year or two came,
413
00:19:46,601 --> 00:19:48,269
and you felt there was, like, a scene,
414
00:19:48,561 --> 00:19:52,899
a sort of a collection of people
that were really fans of the music,
415
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which was a really different thing than
what was happening in LA. at the time.
416
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So it was a very, uh, surreal,
transformative experience for us.
417
00:20:02,325 --> 00:20:05,078
[Brian Lew] We were all teenagers.
They were in a band onstage.
418
00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:06,610
We were teenagers in the crowd.
419
00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:09,165
And at the time,
Metallica were doing Diamond Head covers,
420
00:20:09,457 --> 00:20:12,252
you know, one of those bands
we didn't think anybody else knew about.
421
00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:14,184
And when they launched into "The Prince,"
422
00:20:14,421 --> 00:20:17,590
that's where the bond with that band
and the Bay Area happened.
423
00:20:17,882 --> 00:20:19,592
If you know that band, you're a brother.
424
00:20:19,884 --> 00:20:21,177
That was the switch.
425
00:20:21,678 --> 00:20:23,179
Yeah, I remember that first show,
426
00:20:23,471 --> 00:20:27,308
seeing fans that didn't care
what they looked like.
427
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,352
I mean, they had cutoff denim and stuff.
428
00:20:29,644 --> 00:20:31,187
They... They didn't care.
429
00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:34,524
And they were at the front of the stage,
430
00:20:34,816 --> 00:20:37,569
headbanging,
because the music did that for them.
431
00:20:37,861 --> 00:20:41,197
They weren't gathered around
the bar scene or anything.
432
00:20:41,489 --> 00:20:42,689
They were there for the music.
433
00:20:42,741 --> 00:20:45,201
I think we had a much different
relationship with our fans,
434
00:20:45,493 --> 00:20:47,829
because, you know,
we were salt of the earth.
435
00:20:48,121 --> 00:20:50,790
Metallica came up to the Bay Area
to play the Old Waldorf,
436
00:20:51,666 --> 00:20:54,836
and I remember watching them thinking...
Fucking pretty cool.
437
00:20:55,128 --> 00:20:59,215
Then Laaz Rockit came on and played
for, like, literally, like, 25 people,
438
00:20:59,507 --> 00:21:01,509
and that said a lot to me.
439
00:21:01,801 --> 00:21:04,888
It said a lot to Baloff.
It said to everyone in Exodus.
440
00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:07,056
We were like, OK.
441
00:21:07,348 --> 00:21:10,810
All right, we know what's... what's
working here, and we know what's not.
442
00:21:11,102 --> 00:21:13,502
Yeah, so Metallica,
I first got hip to them through the demo.
443
00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:16,210
So shortly after that,
the band I was playing with at the time,
444
00:21:16,399 --> 00:21:18,159
Laaz Rockit,
we were playing a show together.
445
00:21:18,234 --> 00:21:20,320
They were playing before us.
Mistake.
446
00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:23,406
Something about Metallica.
They had that special...
447
00:21:23,698 --> 00:21:25,784
That... that still... that kick,
448
00:21:26,075 --> 00:21:27,075
and... you know?
449
00:21:27,202 --> 00:21:29,037
They got that extra boost of adrenaline
450
00:21:29,329 --> 00:21:31,456
that I think made everyone
step up their game.
451
00:21:31,748 --> 00:21:32,748
Everyone.
452
00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:38,213
And then we played a show the next day,
and... and it was a benefit for Metal Mania.
453
00:21:38,838 --> 00:21:42,717
It was kind of a hodgepodge thing
that was put together in 24 hours.
454
00:21:43,009 --> 00:21:44,385
They needed to find bands.
455
00:21:44,677 --> 00:21:45,929
They had got Metallica.
456
00:21:46,221 --> 00:21:48,502
They asked us to open.
We said, sure, we'll open the show.
457
00:21:48,723 --> 00:21:50,391
This is at the Mabuhay Gardens.
458
00:21:50,683 --> 00:21:51,768
We played our show.
459
00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,479
Then Metallica came on,
and they played.
460
00:21:54,771 --> 00:21:56,022
And they were just fantastic.
461
00:21:56,314 --> 00:22:00,652
And that's when I first met James,
and that's when I first met Lars.
462
00:22:00,944 --> 00:22:05,657
You know, it's funny because it was
a window into things to come in my future,
463
00:22:05,949 --> 00:22:07,909
because as I was talking to Lars,
464
00:22:08,201 --> 00:22:11,830
he got undressed
and changed right in front of me.
465
00:22:12,121 --> 00:22:16,334
And I was like,
"Wow, why is this guy doing that?"
466
00:22:16,626 --> 00:22:20,630
And then I realized... Oh, this is what,
I guess, what European people do.
467
00:22:20,922 --> 00:22:22,966
[chuckles] Because...
468
00:22:23,258 --> 00:22:25,218
You know, I lived in the East Bay.
469
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:28,805
All I had to contend with was
rednecks everywhere, you know?
470
00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:33,226
[Brian Posehn]
Metallica's legendary demo cassette,
471
00:22:33,518 --> 00:22:38,064
No Life Til Leather,
was recorded in the summer of 1982.
472
00:22:38,356 --> 00:22:41,526
It immediately became a staple
of the tape-trading underground
473
00:22:41,818 --> 00:22:45,071
and established the band
as a force to be reckoned with.
474
00:22:45,363 --> 00:22:48,283
[Lars Ulrich] First we did
a four-song demo called "Power Metal,"
475
00:22:48,575 --> 00:22:50,375
and then the infamous
No Life Til Leather tape
476
00:22:50,618 --> 00:22:52,120
came a couple months after.
477
00:22:52,495 --> 00:22:55,081
I just started sending it
to all the same people
478
00:22:55,373 --> 00:22:59,377
that I'd been trading some of this other
underground metal stuff with,
479
00:22:59,669 --> 00:23:02,005
like the KJ Doughtons of the world.
480
00:23:02,297 --> 00:23:03,737
Oh my, God, this is tape is amazing.
481
00:23:03,923 --> 00:23:07,427
It just crushes. It's unbelievable,
they've come so far.
482
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,014
And I sent Brian the first Metallica demo,
483
00:23:11,306 --> 00:23:13,186
and I think that's
the first taste he got of it.
484
00:23:18,855 --> 00:23:20,535
[Toni Isabella] While working at the club,
485
00:23:20,648 --> 00:23:25,278
one of my coworkers had started
to do a Monday night event
486
00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:26,738
called Metal Monday,
487
00:23:27,030 --> 00:23:30,325
and these bands that later
became thrash were presented.
488
00:23:31,367 --> 00:23:33,286
And it was clear this was a new direction.
489
00:23:33,661 --> 00:23:35,180
[Craig Behrhorst]
Attendance on a Tuesday morning
490
00:23:35,204 --> 00:23:37,004
in any of the high schools
across the Bay Area
491
00:23:37,206 --> 00:23:38,333
was pretty poor.
492
00:23:38,625 --> 00:23:39,626
I can attest to that,
493
00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:41,520
because a lot of us
were still in high school.
494
00:23:41,544 --> 00:23:43,904
[Harald Oimen] The Bay Area people
were so loyal to the band
495
00:23:44,172 --> 00:23:45,232
that if they didn't like the band,
496
00:23:45,256 --> 00:23:46,984
they would actually
turn their backs on the...
497
00:23:47,008 --> 00:23:48,448
On the band while they were playing.
498
00:23:48,551 --> 00:23:50,446
[male voice] There was a band
called Hans Naughty.
499
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:51,971
And they were based in San Francisco
500
00:23:52,263 --> 00:23:55,433
but with very much a Los Angeles
Sunset Strip aesthetic,
501
00:23:55,725 --> 00:23:57,365
and they were on the bill with Metallica.
502
00:23:57,644 --> 00:24:00,124
[James Hetfield] There were fans that had,
you know, patches of
503
00:24:00,396 --> 00:24:02,565
obviously their favorite bands on
and what not,
504
00:24:02,857 --> 00:24:05,737
and they would show how much they liked
the band or didn't like the band.
505
00:24:06,027 --> 00:24:09,113
We might've flipped them off
a couple times, and that got boring. So...
506
00:24:09,405 --> 00:24:10,966
[James Hetfield]
They just quietly turned,
507
00:24:10,990 --> 00:24:13,910
and that was
[laughs] I guess silent protest.
508
00:24:14,202 --> 00:24:14,869
They got across that...
509
00:24:15,161 --> 00:24:17,997
Hey, you're not a favorite band,
and we're waiting for this one,
510
00:24:18,289 --> 00:24:19,874
the one that's on my back patch.
511
00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:25,755
[Ray Burton] Cliff came to us and said,
"I'd like to learn to play bass guitar."
512
00:24:26,297 --> 00:24:30,718
Jan and I said, yeah, so we got him
a cheap guitar and a cheap amplifier,
513
00:24:31,010 --> 00:24:32,637
and started giving him lessons.
514
00:24:33,262 --> 00:24:35,556
And, uh, from then on...
515
00:24:35,848 --> 00:24:37,809
you know, it was all Cliff.
516
00:24:38,267 --> 00:24:41,187
[Kirk Hammett] I knew about Cliff Burton
from his previous band, Trauma,
517
00:24:41,729 --> 00:24:44,649
because Baloff knew about Trauma.
Baloff had seen Trauma and said,
518
00:24:44,941 --> 00:24:46,141
"Oh, you got to see this band.
519
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,759
They've got a killer bass player
and a killer guitar player."
520
00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:50,787
He said to me one day,
He goes, "Hey, let's...
521
00:24:51,072 --> 00:24:55,410
You want to go to San Francisco
to see a show at the... at the Stone?"
522
00:24:55,702 --> 00:24:58,663
"What's going on?" He goes,
"Well, let's see this band Metallica."
523
00:24:58,955 --> 00:25:01,124
Maybe a couple months later,
I was talking to Lars.
524
00:25:01,666 --> 00:25:03,769
He said, "Do you know any good
bass players out there?"
525
00:25:03,793 --> 00:25:07,171
I said, "Well, there's this band
from San Francisco
526
00:25:07,463 --> 00:25:09,465
with this amazing bass player
named Cliff Burton.
527
00:25:09,757 --> 00:25:12,069
I saw him at the Troubadour a while ago,
coming down and playing again.
528
00:25:12,093 --> 00:25:13,219
You guys should come."
529
00:25:13,511 --> 00:25:15,596
So Lars was like, "OK, cool."
The show happens.
530
00:25:15,888 --> 00:25:17,015
Lars and James were there.
531
00:25:17,306 --> 00:25:19,906
And I didn't know how far into the set,
but it was pretty early...
532
00:25:20,184 --> 00:25:21,829
Maybe the second or third song...
Lars goes to me,
533
00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:23,771
"That... that's going to
be our bass player."
534
00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,445
[James Hetfield]
Cliff represented the Bay Area.
535
00:25:31,154 --> 00:25:33,197
He represented a freedom.
536
00:25:33,489 --> 00:25:37,035
He represented a... a... a freakness
537
00:25:37,326 --> 00:25:42,081
that I didn't know
so much growing up in LA.
538
00:25:42,623 --> 00:25:45,585
I went and saw Cliff play
with Trauma at the Keystone Berkeley,
539
00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:48,212
and it was no secret that the band knew
540
00:25:48,504 --> 00:25:51,132
that Cliff was about
to be poached from them.
541
00:25:51,424 --> 00:25:53,426
That's where Cliff belonged,
was in Metallica.
542
00:25:53,968 --> 00:25:56,368
[Ray Burton] Cliff would be talking
to somebody on the phone.
543
00:25:56,846 --> 00:25:58,973
And just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.
544
00:25:59,265 --> 00:26:00,683
And this went on for,
545
00:26:01,059 --> 00:26:03,352
oh, golly, I'd swear a month.
546
00:26:03,644 --> 00:26:04,896
And so finally I said to Jan,
547
00:26:05,229 --> 00:26:07,482
"Who's Cliff talking to
on the phone so much?"
548
00:26:07,774 --> 00:26:10,359
And she said, "Well, there's a band
from Los Angeles
549
00:26:10,651 --> 00:26:13,446
that wants him to... to join them."
550
00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:16,949
And, uh, and Clifford said,
551
00:26:17,241 --> 00:26:21,954
"No, I... I'm not going to go down to LA,"
I said... He said, "I told them,"
552
00:26:22,246 --> 00:26:26,167
"If you guys want me to join your band,
you can come up to the Bay Area."
553
00:26:26,459 --> 00:26:28,669
And by golly, here they did. [chuckles]
554
00:26:28,961 --> 00:26:30,321
- Then one day...
- [phone ringing]
555
00:26:30,588 --> 00:26:31,881
Baloff called me up and said,
556
00:26:32,173 --> 00:26:35,426
"That guy Cliff Burton, bass player
for Trauma, is in Metallica now!"
557
00:26:35,718 --> 00:26:38,137
And I said, "No fucking way."
558
00:26:38,888 --> 00:26:40,848
[thrash metal song playing]
559
00:26:47,146 --> 00:26:48,815
And then I saw them at the Stone,
560
00:26:49,107 --> 00:26:52,485
you know, Cliff's first gig at the Stone.
And |... I was just like...
561
00:26:53,236 --> 00:26:55,530
["Seek and Destroy" playing]
562
00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:00,910
[guitar solo playing]
563
00:27:01,494 --> 00:27:04,789
It was kind of like looking in a mirror.
Here's another band playing, like,
564
00:27:05,498 --> 00:27:09,043
kind of what we are, you know,
their own stamp on it.
565
00:27:09,377 --> 00:27:10,378
But, you know,
566
00:27:10,670 --> 00:27:14,215
I remember I... just hanging out
and getting hammered that night,
567
00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:16,747
and we just all kind of
said the same thing. It's like...
568
00:27:16,884 --> 00:27:18,719
We kind of found our kindred
spirit, you know?
569
00:27:19,011 --> 00:27:21,097
[James Hetfield]
There was a lot of integrity
570
00:27:21,389 --> 00:27:23,057
in the metal scene in San Francisco.
571
00:27:23,349 --> 00:27:26,435
And, you know,
besides going up on the hill by the park
572
00:27:26,727 --> 00:27:29,564
and just blasting
whatever music we were loving,
573
00:27:29,856 --> 00:27:31,190
booze and music, you know?
574
00:27:31,482 --> 00:27:34,193
That was our collective.
That's where we got to know each other
575
00:27:34,485 --> 00:27:36,320
and really feel like we had a family.
576
00:27:36,612 --> 00:27:39,092
[Lars Ulrich] Cliff is the one
that brought us to the Bay Area.
577
00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:41,242
If you want me in the band,
you got to come up here.
578
00:27:42,201 --> 00:27:44,537
[Brian Posehn] On December 28th, 1982,
579
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:48,457
Cliff Burton was invited to play
in a small house in El Cerrito
580
00:27:48,749 --> 00:27:51,669
that would later come to be known
as the Metallica Mansion.
581
00:27:52,587 --> 00:27:56,299
Part audition, part rehearsal,
only a lucky few were there.
582
00:27:57,133 --> 00:27:59,468
No audio exists,
but fortunately for history
583
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,556
Brian Lew brought his camera
and photographed the new band lineup.
584
00:28:03,848 --> 00:28:06,168
[Brian Lew] At some point Lars
probably called me and said,
585
00:28:06,225 --> 00:28:08,545
"You know, we're going
to be playing with our new bassist."
586
00:28:09,061 --> 00:28:11,981
Ron Quintana was there.
Rich Burch was there.
587
00:28:12,273 --> 00:28:14,650
Ian Callin,
who did Metal Mania with Ron, was there.
588
00:28:14,942 --> 00:28:16,944
There was a group
of maybe five or six of us.
589
00:28:17,236 --> 00:28:20,448
There's this little room in El Cerrito,
and that was the living room
590
00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:22,825
where Metallica played
with Cliff for the first time.
591
00:28:23,117 --> 00:28:24,277
[male voice] And that was it.
592
00:28:31,667 --> 00:28:35,213
Jamming with Cliff for the first time
in the... in the living room there,
593
00:28:35,504 --> 00:28:38,025
hearing "Seek and Destroy",
and all of a sudden he's doing some stuff.
594
00:28:38,049 --> 00:28:40,468
It's like... Oh, my, God,
this is going to be awesome.
595
00:28:41,093 --> 00:28:44,263
It sort of catapulted
Metallica to another level.
596
00:28:44,722 --> 00:28:46,390
[Brian Posehn] In early 1983,
597
00:28:46,682 --> 00:28:49,310
Metallica moved from Los Angeles
to the Bay Area.
598
00:28:50,061 --> 00:28:54,065
A very short window of time
with Mustaine in the band
599
00:28:54,357 --> 00:28:55,358
and Cliff in the band,
600
00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:59,111
and rehearsing and a few really
great shows in the Bay Area.
601
00:29:03,991 --> 00:29:05,219
[Dave Mustaine]
That was one of the things
602
00:29:05,243 --> 00:29:06,963
that you could tell
when we played together.
603
00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:11,370
When the lights are off
and the guitars are roaring,
604
00:29:11,540 --> 00:29:12,667
there's a respect.
605
00:29:13,501 --> 00:29:15,294
Just the whole area, being up there,
606
00:29:15,753 --> 00:29:18,256
getting Cliff on board,
it felt like home.
607
00:29:19,882 --> 00:29:22,301
And then it came time for us
to play the show at the Stone.
608
00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:26,681
We went on, and we had a great show.
The place was packed.
609
00:29:27,056 --> 00:29:28,474
And then Metallica came on,
610
00:29:30,810 --> 00:29:33,396
and it was the first time
that I'd actually been able
611
00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:34,814
to watch the whole show.
612
00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:37,483
As I'm watching them, I thought,
613
00:29:37,775 --> 00:29:41,487
"These guys are fucking great.
They'd be so much better with me."
614
00:29:46,450 --> 00:29:48,244
[Brian Posehn] In the New York area,
615
00:29:48,536 --> 00:29:52,290
Anthrax was proudly flying
the flag of the new heavy metal.
616
00:29:52,915 --> 00:29:54,685
[Charlie Benante] I think we felt
kind of out of it
617
00:29:54,709 --> 00:29:57,420
because we were the only band
on the East Coast
618
00:29:57,712 --> 00:29:59,297
that wanted to do something like this.
619
00:29:59,588 --> 00:30:03,384
And we thought it was so cool
that in the Bay Area,
620
00:30:03,676 --> 00:30:07,054
there was this kind of club
of these type of bands
621
00:30:07,346 --> 00:30:09,473
that were gigging around
and just making music.
622
00:30:09,765 --> 00:30:12,393
And I remember Exodus being
one of the first bands,
623
00:30:12,685 --> 00:30:15,980
beside Metallica,
that I thought were fucking great.
624
00:30:16,439 --> 00:30:18,316
I just started getting the tape out there,
625
00:30:19,066 --> 00:30:21,861
and then, um, we started getting
you know, some good response.
626
00:30:22,153 --> 00:30:25,781
And, you now, eventually this tape
ended up in the hands of Johnny 2.
627
00:30:26,157 --> 00:30:30,328
Around that time we were
meeting with Johnny 2 in New Jersey,
628
00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:32,371
giving him demos.
629
00:30:32,663 --> 00:30:35,708
He was bringing the band
from San Francisco to come over.
630
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,295
[male voice] Johnny 2, he came down
to the house with a demo tape,
631
00:30:39,587 --> 00:30:41,213
which was No Life Til Leather.
632
00:30:41,505 --> 00:30:42,715
We were blown away.
633
00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:46,594
Metallica was always ahead of us
and the other bands, you know?
634
00:30:46,886 --> 00:30:48,739
They were always six months
to a year ahead of us.
635
00:30:48,763 --> 00:30:52,266
They came out with Kill 'Em All before
any other band had their records out.
636
00:30:52,558 --> 00:30:56,312
I think Kill 'Em All really set the tone
for what was gonna come.
637
00:30:57,188 --> 00:30:58,981
[Brian Posehn] In April 1983,
638
00:30:59,273 --> 00:31:03,319
Dave Mustaine was let go from Metallica
and replaced by Kirk Hammett.
639
00:31:03,611 --> 00:31:06,489
We had obviously started
hanging out with Exodus,
640
00:31:06,781 --> 00:31:10,576
and Kirk was definitely
very musically gifted.
641
00:31:10,868 --> 00:31:13,371
And he was also very
up for whatever was going on.
642
00:31:13,662 --> 00:31:15,456
Yeah, Kirk and I were at this party.
643
00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:18,417
He's like, "Hey, man, come here.
Mark Whitaker just called me.
644
00:31:18,709 --> 00:31:20,878
They want me to audition for Metallica."
645
00:31:21,170 --> 00:31:23,339
You know, it's like
a passing of the torch, you know?
646
00:31:23,631 --> 00:31:27,426
Like, Kirk giving me the keys
to the family car, you know, and saying,
647
00:31:27,718 --> 00:31:29,678
"Here, it's yours now. Don't blow it up."
648
00:31:29,970 --> 00:31:31,263
[chuckles]
649
00:31:31,555 --> 00:31:33,057
As far as the music was concerned,
650
00:31:33,349 --> 00:31:37,436
Exodus' music was similar as to what
Metallica was doing already.
651
00:31:38,312 --> 00:31:41,607
I had the chops to be able to play
all that stuff on Kill 'Em All,
652
00:31:41,899 --> 00:31:44,402
no problem.
That was the least of my worries,
653
00:31:45,027 --> 00:31:48,239
because even then I knew
that when you go into a band,
654
00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:49,824
there's a certain dynamic.
655
00:31:50,116 --> 00:31:54,286
And if your personality doesn't work
within that... that band dynamic,
656
00:31:54,578 --> 00:31:55,578
it just won't work.
657
00:31:55,913 --> 00:31:56,956
You won't go anywhere.
658
00:31:57,331 --> 00:32:00,251
[Brian Posehn]
A group of die-hard New Jersey metal fans
659
00:32:00,543 --> 00:32:03,754
known as the Old Bridge Militia
took Metallica into their home,
660
00:32:04,255 --> 00:32:05,506
the Funhouse.
661
00:32:05,798 --> 00:32:07,758
It's pretty amazing that
the house got a nickname,
662
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,487
which was the Funhouse because
of all the things that we did down there.
663
00:32:10,511 --> 00:32:12,831
The place was all about fun,
because what did you do there?
664
00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:15,158
- You had dirt bikes happening.
- Oh, yeah, there was...
665
00:32:15,182 --> 00:32:18,269
You had canoe rides [overlapping]
hooked to a chain.
666
00:32:18,561 --> 00:32:22,189
We were welcomed to quite a few places
that maybe shouldn't have. [laughs]
667
00:32:22,523 --> 00:32:24,692
- The Funhouse...
- Not much to pick from.
668
00:32:24,984 --> 00:32:27,784
- They didn't have much. Yeah. Yeah.
- A house with no heat, sometimes.
669
00:32:27,945 --> 00:32:30,781
[James Hetfield] You know, they
supplied us with the things we needed.
670
00:32:31,073 --> 00:32:31,740
[chuckles]
671
00:32:32,032 --> 00:32:35,286
You know, everybody knew that
we would have these crazy parties
672
00:32:35,578 --> 00:32:36,787
with the music going crazy.
673
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:41,375
The sound system was... I believe
it was like a four-channel Onkyo.
674
00:32:41,667 --> 00:32:43,586
Yeah, I had the SAE,
but we bought a regular...
675
00:32:43,878 --> 00:32:46,046
- Rack system.
- Yeah, a whole rack system.
676
00:32:46,338 --> 00:32:48,024
Yeah, we just didn't
have the regular speakers.
677
00:32:48,048 --> 00:32:49,734
We had...
I guess they were monitors, right?
678
00:32:49,758 --> 00:32:53,429
Two 123, two 143—— whatever.
It went up to the ceiling of the house.
679
00:32:53,721 --> 00:32:55,441
Run a demo,
and then you're in your bedroom.
680
00:32:55,514 --> 00:32:57,558
You know, It was like,
wow, this is pretty wild.
681
00:32:58,642 --> 00:33:00,442
[Brian Posehn]
Meanwhile back in the East Bay,
682
00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:04,398
Exodus quickly took hold
as the Bay Area's go-to heavy metal band.
683
00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:07,693
Ruthie's Inn became home
to the burgeoning scene.
684
00:33:08,068 --> 00:33:09,737
[crowd chanting "Exodus"]
685
00:33:10,237 --> 00:33:11,715
[Gary Holt] Looks like someone's
trying to make
686
00:33:11,739 --> 00:33:13,341
a respectable location out of this place.
687
00:33:13,365 --> 00:33:15,594
- Let's open it back up, Ruthie's Inn.
- [Gary Holt chuckles]
688
00:33:15,618 --> 00:33:17,912
Last time I was down here,
it still had the marquee,
689
00:33:18,579 --> 00:33:20,456
and you could still see
Ruthie's Inn on it.
690
00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:24,543
This place was as much the epicenter
of the Bay Area thrash scene
691
00:33:24,835 --> 00:33:28,422
as CBGBs was to the New York punk scene.
692
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:31,592
I mean, there were so many clubs
prior to Ruthie's,
693
00:33:31,884 --> 00:33:33,524
but this is where the Vio-Ience took off.
694
00:33:33,802 --> 00:33:36,680
This is where "Murder in the Front Row"
really did take place.
695
00:33:38,098 --> 00:33:40,018
[Durell Robinson-Ali]
My father was Wes Robinson,
696
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:41,435
born in Port Arthur, Texas.
697
00:33:41,727 --> 00:33:44,480
Came out to the East Bay about 1933.
698
00:33:45,022 --> 00:33:47,691
He grew up in a household
that was full of music,
699
00:33:47,983 --> 00:33:51,195
and they were hardcore jazz aficionados.
700
00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:55,908
They would sneak out late at night
to go see Ella Fitzgerald or the classics.
701
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,078
A lot of the greats.
That started his love of music.
702
00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:00,850
It wasn't so much that he had a club,
703
00:34:00,913 --> 00:34:03,415
but rather that
he would foster relationships
704
00:34:03,707 --> 00:34:07,920
that allowed him to use...
Use different venues for performances.
705
00:34:08,963 --> 00:34:11,507
He was a promoter,
and that was the beginning.
706
00:34:11,799 --> 00:34:15,177
And Wes Robinson, you know,
the late, great Wes Robinson, you know,
707
00:34:15,511 --> 00:34:19,306
booked Exodus at the first ever show
at Ruthie's, a blues club.
708
00:34:19,598 --> 00:34:21,278
[Durell Robinson-Ali]
His joy for something
709
00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:24,353
always led his actions
into getting involved with it.
710
00:34:24,645 --> 00:34:26,085
He never got involved with something
711
00:34:26,188 --> 00:34:28,816
just because he might be able
to make some money at it.
712
00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:32,444
He saw something in it.
I'm... I'm not sure what... what he saw.
713
00:34:32,736 --> 00:34:36,907
Maybe he recognized from when... when
he was a music fan, being younger.
714
00:34:37,408 --> 00:34:38,826
Obviously much different music,
715
00:34:39,118 --> 00:34:41,120
but I think he saw some
of that same energy.
716
00:34:41,412 --> 00:34:43,664
So he really helped nurture the scene.
717
00:34:44,081 --> 00:34:48,252
There were battles along the way.
There were battles from the neighborhood.
718
00:34:48,627 --> 00:34:50,462
Um, you know, there was a...
719
00:34:50,754 --> 00:34:55,593
Um, there was a parking lot
across from Ruthie's that is... Still...
720
00:34:55,884 --> 00:34:58,137
The business is still there.
Big O Tires.
721
00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:00,889
People would throw up in there,
in that parking lot,
722
00:35:01,181 --> 00:35:02,725
and, like, break bottles.
723
00:35:03,183 --> 00:35:06,186
After a while I was, like...
These people never complain.
724
00:35:06,478 --> 00:35:08,522
They never call the cops.
They never do anything.
725
00:35:08,814 --> 00:35:11,817
After thinking about it, I'm like...
Well, they do sell tires there, so.
726
00:35:12,109 --> 00:35:14,987
We would party right across
the street at the Big 0 parking lot.
727
00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:17,823
Someone would roll up in their Chevy Nova,
728
00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,909
crack the trunk,
and there'd be coolers of beer
729
00:35:21,201 --> 00:35:24,079
and bottles of Jack and what not.
And we all hung out.
730
00:35:24,371 --> 00:35:27,499
Half the bands would wait with us
and drink with us, and then...
731
00:35:27,791 --> 00:35:29,043
Oh, got to go into the show.
732
00:35:29,335 --> 00:35:31,587
Well, Exodus shows at Ruthie's
were really crazy.
733
00:35:31,879 --> 00:35:34,590
I mean, I don't think I ever paid once
to get into the show.
734
00:35:34,882 --> 00:35:36,383
Wes would be sitting at the door.
735
00:35:36,675 --> 00:35:38,886
I would walk by,
and he'd just kind of go like that.
736
00:35:39,178 --> 00:35:43,098
Connie, Pam, Rebecca, Leah,
737
00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:44,933
those girls were something else,
738
00:35:45,225 --> 00:35:47,227
because there weren't
very many of us at all.
739
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:50,159
[Connie] We would go to the bar.
We would sit down. We would drink.
740
00:35:50,272 --> 00:35:53,942
We didn't have IDs. We weren't old enough.
But it just sort of happened.
741
00:35:54,234 --> 00:35:56,834
You know, people were dancing,
and the bands were playing so hard.
742
00:35:57,071 --> 00:35:59,406
It became very human,
very fast. [chuckles]
743
00:35:59,698 --> 00:36:03,058
[Gary Holt] That's when we found our home,
because it was kind of where we were from.
744
00:36:03,410 --> 00:36:05,412
You know, Rick and Paul
were both from Berkeley.
745
00:36:05,704 --> 00:36:09,041
You know, Robbie was from Berkeley.
Tom and I were from San Pablo.
746
00:36:09,458 --> 00:36:10,938
[Brian Lew] Exodus at Ruthie's Inn...
747
00:36:11,001 --> 00:36:14,001
A random person would just record it
and send it off to our pen pal friends.
748
00:36:14,046 --> 00:36:19,718
So you know, pre Bonded by Blood,
this is how Exodus' music got out.
749
00:36:20,052 --> 00:36:21,970
[thrash metal song playing]
750
00:36:26,016 --> 00:36:28,060
[Alex Skolnick]
It very quickly became a scene.
751
00:36:28,352 --> 00:36:30,646
It was the place to go.
They have great kamikazes.
752
00:36:30,938 --> 00:36:32,698
You knew never knew what
was going to happen.
753
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:35,109
You know, some crazy shit
was going to jump off.
754
00:36:35,401 --> 00:36:37,337
Of course, I was young,
and we were all just raging,
755
00:36:37,361 --> 00:36:38,987
and... it was a party.
756
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:41,007
[Harald Oimen] The place was really dark,
757
00:36:41,031 --> 00:36:43,367
and you kind of, like, get away
with almost anything there.
758
00:36:43,659 --> 00:36:45,512
I'll never forget one time
going through the crowd,
759
00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:46,971
like, headbanging
and going crazy and stuff.
760
00:36:46,995 --> 00:36:50,249
I actually tripped on some people.
There were some people, like, having sex.
761
00:36:50,624 --> 00:36:54,044
The shows were classic, dude.
I mean, it was like Ruthie's Inn,
762
00:36:54,336 --> 00:36:56,797
so hot and humid in there.
The walls would be sweating.
763
00:36:57,089 --> 00:36:59,883
People are hanging off
of plumbing pipes and sprinklers,
764
00:37:00,175 --> 00:37:01,802
and toilets were getting broke.
765
00:37:02,094 --> 00:37:03,846
The place would just
get fucking destroyed,
766
00:37:04,138 --> 00:37:06,218
and they'd still have us back,
like, two weeks later.
767
00:37:06,473 --> 00:37:09,184
Toby Rage, Andy Anderson,
Lonnie Hunolt...
768
00:37:10,102 --> 00:37:11,437
You know, we'd all take turns.
769
00:37:11,812 --> 00:37:13,188
We called it bowling ball.
770
00:37:14,064 --> 00:37:15,941
And it's where people jump on stage,
771
00:37:16,233 --> 00:37:19,111
and you're crouched
in a ducking position by the drums.
772
00:37:19,403 --> 00:37:22,614
You get a running start and just
linebacker them as hard as you could
773
00:37:22,906 --> 00:37:24,092
down into the crowd, you know?
774
00:37:24,116 --> 00:37:25,116
That was fun.
775
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,200
We were hanging out
at the Big 0 across the street.
776
00:37:27,327 --> 00:37:28,954
This cat Toby Rage comes up,
777
00:37:29,246 --> 00:37:32,249
and he sees Leroy
with his Mike Tereo hair
778
00:37:32,541 --> 00:37:34,168
and his white Capezios.
779
00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:35,854
And he walks up, and he just goes...
780
00:37:35,878 --> 00:37:37,171
[clears throat, spits]
781
00:37:37,463 --> 00:37:38,547
Nice shoes.
782
00:37:38,839 --> 00:37:42,342
Toby Rage was, again,
I never saw him break character.
783
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:46,930
I don't know how he lived at that level.
784
00:37:47,556 --> 00:37:51,894
I just remember just feeling,
you know, claustrophobic in there,
785
00:37:52,186 --> 00:37:54,306
but if the music was good,
that was all that mattered.
786
00:37:54,521 --> 00:37:57,361
[Mark Osegueda] Exodus just owned it,
and the pits were violent as hell.
787
00:37:57,399 --> 00:37:58,942
It was just...
788
00:37:59,234 --> 00:38:01,278
It was... It was... It was glorious.
789
00:38:01,612 --> 00:38:03,864
[Brian Lew] You know,
Exodus's group of close friends,
790
00:38:04,156 --> 00:38:05,796
you know, they were called the Slay Team,
791
00:38:05,824 --> 00:38:08,827
and literally if someone
showed up at Ruthie's Inn
792
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,872
wearing a Motley Crue
or Ratt or a hair metal band shirt,
793
00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:14,666
they would literally tear
the shirt off the kid's back.
794
00:38:15,167 --> 00:38:16,960
They would cut strips off of the shirt
795
00:38:17,252 --> 00:38:19,129
and tie them around their wrists,
like scalps,
796
00:38:19,421 --> 00:38:21,840
and those aren't
fucking friendship strips.
797
00:38:22,132 --> 00:38:23,634
Those are like war trophies.
798
00:38:24,176 --> 00:38:25,904
[Harald Oimen] Lizzie Green,
Baloff's girlfriend,
799
00:38:25,928 --> 00:38:28,031
actually did a comic book
that was based on the Slay Team.
800
00:38:28,055 --> 00:38:30,390
It was just them going out
and killing posers, literally.
801
00:38:30,682 --> 00:38:34,561
Paul and I had this idea
that we were going to make money.
802
00:38:34,853 --> 00:38:36,772
And so I draw up this whole comic.
803
00:38:37,064 --> 00:38:39,441
She would sit there
and draw these little comics,
804
00:38:39,733 --> 00:38:42,820
which have now become
the Slay Team comics, which are famous.
805
00:38:43,111 --> 00:38:45,823
"I can't believe this.
That car just ran him down.
806
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,699
Someone wants to kill us all.
807
00:38:47,991 --> 00:38:52,454
It's the Slay Team, and they will
kill us all unless we strike back."
808
00:38:52,746 --> 00:38:54,498
So we start a poser war.
809
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:58,126
So, this is actually a real person.
We called him Poser Bob.
810
00:38:58,418 --> 00:39:00,254
I don't remember what Bob's real name is.
811
00:39:00,546 --> 00:39:04,299
He did dress like this.
He had no problem being a poser.
812
00:39:04,925 --> 00:39:08,178
[Brian Posehn] By the way, folks,
she's now a nuclear scientist.
813
00:39:08,554 --> 00:39:12,099
I research explosives for the government,
is the... is the party line,
814
00:39:12,391 --> 00:39:15,143
but I blow shit up for the government
is my line.
815
00:39:15,811 --> 00:39:18,647
[Baloff on microphone]
816
00:39:19,022 --> 00:39:21,108
[Mark Devito] Toby Rage,
I mean, it's like...
817
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,404
Nobody was going to try posing
if all of a sudden you were going to get,
818
00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:28,657
you know, a Converse footprint
on the side of your head.
819
00:39:28,949 --> 00:39:31,952
I got off the plane the one day,
went to Ruthie's the next day.
820
00:39:32,244 --> 00:39:36,039
People were jumping on the PA stack.
They were jumping off into the crowd.
821
00:39:36,415 --> 00:39:38,615
People were standing with their backs
against the stage,
822
00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:41,753
holding their hands like this,
throwing people on.
823
00:39:42,045 --> 00:39:44,339
We had never seen
anything like that in Europe.
824
00:39:45,465 --> 00:39:48,886
[Baloff on microphone]
825
00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:52,598
[crowd cheering]
826
00:39:54,057 --> 00:39:56,727
[crowd chanting "Kill! Kill!"]
827
00:39:57,477 --> 00:39:58,637
[Pam] No stage diving for me.
828
00:39:58,729 --> 00:40:00,772
Most of the time
I stood just on the outside
829
00:40:01,064 --> 00:40:03,275
and let some other guys push
the guys in the middle.
830
00:40:04,026 --> 00:40:06,466
Just close enough so you could
still see the band but not get,
831
00:40:06,737 --> 00:40:08,113
you know, run over.
832
00:40:08,405 --> 00:40:09,781
Ruthie's was insane.
833
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,784
And we were never real crazy about
834
00:40:13,076 --> 00:40:15,412
keeping people offstage
at that point, you know?
835
00:40:15,704 --> 00:40:18,099
That's what they did,
and they had a damn good time doing it.
836
00:40:18,123 --> 00:40:20,459
If you were a poser or a dippy girl
or something like that,
837
00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:21,793
they could be terrifying,
838
00:40:22,085 --> 00:40:24,004
but if you were a friend of theirs
839
00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:25,940
and you understood them
or you accepted them,
840
00:40:25,964 --> 00:40:27,633
their hearts were so big.
841
00:40:27,925 --> 00:40:30,719
[Brian Lew] One of those defining moments
in any scene,
842
00:40:31,011 --> 00:40:34,473
where that was the show that inspired
the lyrics to "Bonded by Blood."
843
00:40:34,848 --> 00:40:37,434
I remember it was us
and some rock band playing, right?
844
00:40:37,726 --> 00:40:39,646
And the rock band,
they were up there rocking out
845
00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:41,337
for their sister's band or whatever
846
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,040
with their drink glasses
and left them on the front of the stage.
847
00:40:44,107 --> 00:40:47,069
And when we come on,
everybody starts smashing all the glass.
848
00:40:47,361 --> 00:40:49,780
So people's hands got out,
so there was literally...
849
00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:51,132
- Blood upon the stage.
- Blood upon the stage.
850
00:40:51,156 --> 00:40:52,658
There's literally blood all over.
851
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:56,453
And I remember this one girl
who was there to see the rock band
852
00:40:56,745 --> 00:40:58,585
must've saw something
she liked about the band,
853
00:40:58,872 --> 00:41:01,601
and she was up front and was rocking out,
you know... This is kind of cool.
854
00:41:01,625 --> 00:41:04,753
And Paul reached down
and got a big smear, a handful of blood,
855
00:41:05,045 --> 00:41:06,922
and just wiped it down her face.
856
00:41:07,214 --> 00:41:09,216
And she just ran out... Ah! screaming.
857
00:41:10,842 --> 00:41:14,429
[Brial L] Bonded by Blood is written
by a band who were in the thick of it.
858
00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:19,476
That song and that album resonate so much
because it's a product of the scene.
859
00:41:20,310 --> 00:41:21,770
♪ Murder in the front row ♪
860
00:41:22,062 --> 00:41:24,648
♪ Crowd begins to bang
And there's blood upon the stage ♪
861
00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:27,693
♪ Bang your head against the stage
And metal takes its price ♪
862
00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:29,319
♪ Bonded by blood ♪
863
00:41:29,611 --> 00:41:30,320
[Brian Lew] You know, if you listen to it,
864
00:41:30,612 --> 00:41:32,292
it's almost like a documentary
in some ways
865
00:41:32,406 --> 00:41:36,576
about those brief years when this whole
Bay Area scene was just getting going,
866
00:41:36,868 --> 00:41:38,370
like, you know, '83 to '85.
867
00:41:39,037 --> 00:41:40,914
[thrash metal song playing]
868
00:42:05,439 --> 00:42:11,361
[Brian Posehn] Nobody, and I mean nobody,
had ever seen anything like Slayer.
869
00:42:15,949 --> 00:42:18,994
I remember thinking
this is really interesting, OK?
870
00:42:19,286 --> 00:42:20,954
They're from Southern California,
871
00:42:21,747 --> 00:42:23,457
but they're faster than... [chuckles]
872
00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:25,166
Any band I've heard.
873
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,419
The imagery, and the speed,
874
00:42:27,711 --> 00:42:31,173
and just the heaviness of it all
just kind of took me into this.
875
00:42:32,174 --> 00:42:33,341
Fucking Slayer.
876
00:42:33,633 --> 00:42:34,673
["The Antichrist" playing]
877
00:42:37,137 --> 00:42:40,432
♪ I am the Antichrist
It's what I was meant to be ♪
878
00:42:40,807 --> 00:42:44,853
♪ Your God left me behind
And set my soul to be free ♪
879
00:42:45,479 --> 00:42:46,873
[Dave Lombardo]
When we went to the Bay Area,
880
00:42:46,897 --> 00:42:48,815
that's where we felt at home,
881
00:42:49,232 --> 00:42:50,692
because LA. was saturated
882
00:42:50,984 --> 00:42:52,903
and Hollywood was saturated
with glam rock.
883
00:42:53,195 --> 00:42:54,404
We all know what that is,
884
00:42:54,696 --> 00:42:58,408
compared to, you know, thrashers
and metal heads. We were opposite.
885
00:42:58,867 --> 00:43:00,994
When we played, all I remember
886
00:43:01,286 --> 00:43:03,622
is the enthusiasm of the crowd,
their intensity.
887
00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:05,123
Kids jumping on the stage,
888
00:43:05,415 --> 00:43:08,455
and then they'd just start walking on
people's heads and shoulders, you know,
889
00:43:08,502 --> 00:43:10,212
'cause everybody was just stuck together.
890
00:43:11,004 --> 00:43:13,232
[Tom Ara ya] We went up north
and we did a show with Exodus,
891
00:43:13,256 --> 00:43:15,050
which blew me away.
892
00:43:15,634 --> 00:43:17,361
[Gary Holt] There's nothing wrong
with imports.
893
00:43:17,385 --> 00:43:19,971
The Bay Area was the epicenter
of the thrash scene,
894
00:43:20,263 --> 00:43:23,934
and if your own region
was not welcoming of you, we would be.
895
00:43:24,643 --> 00:43:26,645
Being from LA,
nobody... nobody did what we did.
896
00:43:27,104 --> 00:43:29,064
Soto be there, and to hear them,
897
00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:31,196
and think...
Oh my, God, these... these guys...
898
00:43:31,399 --> 00:43:33,119
They're-they're doing
the same thing we are.
899
00:43:33,401 --> 00:43:34,861
Really heavy music, awesome.
900
00:43:35,153 --> 00:43:37,364
The sounds are awesome.
The band is fucking awesome.
901
00:43:37,656 --> 00:43:39,950
The guys were really cool,
and we got along great.
902
00:43:40,408 --> 00:43:42,619
L.A. was more where
the hair metal was going down.
903
00:43:42,911 --> 00:43:44,287
So we're kind of in O.C.,
904
00:43:44,579 --> 00:43:47,499
and the 0.0. crowd was very similar
to the Bay Area crowd,
905
00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:50,127
but the Bay Area crowd
was far more advanced.
906
00:43:50,669 --> 00:43:53,713
I first became aware of Slayer,
um, when Brian Slagel,
907
00:43:54,005 --> 00:43:57,092
who runs Metal Bay Records, he sent me
an advanced tape of Show No Mercy,
908
00:43:57,384 --> 00:43:58,385
their first album.
909
00:43:58,677 --> 00:43:59,719
It was almost like a demo.
910
00:44:00,011 --> 00:44:01,888
And, again, it was at the time when
911
00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:04,850
all we cared about
were bands that played fast.
912
00:44:05,142 --> 00:44:07,978
And Slayer came up here
and played their first three shows
913
00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:10,564
in January '84,
914
00:44:10,856 --> 00:44:13,024
and the first one
was at the Keystone Berkeley.
915
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,240
If you look at the back cover
of Show No Mercy,
916
00:44:15,485 --> 00:44:17,028
they were wearing eyeliner.
917
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,864
Why do you wear makeup? [chuckles]
918
00:44:19,156 --> 00:44:20,282
You can't call it glam,
919
00:44:20,574 --> 00:44:23,827
and it wasn't really makeup,
but it was eyeliner.
920
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,556
[Tom Ara ya] Somebody made the remark,
"Why are you guys wearing that makeup?"
921
00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:29,020
And my thought is... I'm not...
I'm not really wearing makeup.
922
00:44:29,082 --> 00:44:31,877
But, you know, you don't need to be
wearing that stuff, man.
923
00:44:32,711 --> 00:44:33,753
They're all in makeup,
924
00:44:34,045 --> 00:44:37,966
and they have, you know,
the spandex and all the trip going on.
925
00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:40,552
And I think Kerry might've
had spikes at that point.
926
00:44:40,844 --> 00:44:43,114
Whether you don't know me,
whether you don't know the guitar,
927
00:44:43,138 --> 00:44:45,408
whether you don't know much about Slayer,
you know those nails.
928
00:44:45,432 --> 00:44:48,810
[man] They had some shit going on
that I was... "What the fuck is this?"
929
00:44:49,102 --> 00:44:52,147
People like Andy Anderson and Toby Rage,
like, the original Slay Team.
930
00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:55,775
They noticed it and started a chant
of "take off the makeup."
931
00:44:56,067 --> 00:44:57,387
And... you know... Andy even went
932
00:44:57,652 --> 00:45:00,363
as far as going to the men's room
and getting paper towels.
933
00:45:00,655 --> 00:45:02,175
And we waved the paper towels at them.
934
00:45:02,449 --> 00:45:03,825
Slayer did two shows.
935
00:45:04,117 --> 00:45:06,411
They played the Keystone Berkeley
the night before
936
00:45:06,703 --> 00:45:08,943
and then played Ruthie's
the following night with Exodus.
937
00:45:09,122 --> 00:45:12,334
The Keystone Berkeley show
was the last show they wore the makeup,
938
00:45:12,626 --> 00:45:15,670
'cause we told them
that shit won't wash at Ruthie's Inn.
939
00:45:15,962 --> 00:45:17,047
That was it for me.
940
00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:20,026
Took all that shit off. Was like,
"Fuck it, I don't need that shit."
941
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:23,261
So I just stuck with, uh,
black shirts and leather pants.
942
00:45:23,553 --> 00:45:24,553
[laughs]
943
00:45:24,804 --> 00:45:26,574
[Gary Holt] And after
the Keystone Berkeley show,
944
00:45:26,598 --> 00:45:29,684
we destroyed their hotel.
It was a swath of destruction.
945
00:45:29,976 --> 00:45:32,771
It had to be admired and appreciated.
It was awesome.
946
00:45:35,565 --> 00:45:38,085
[Fred Cotton] They had a hotel room
at the Berkeley Plaza Hotel,
947
00:45:38,276 --> 00:45:39,596
and we just destroyed that place.
948
00:45:39,694 --> 00:45:41,696
Showed up with, I think, Tom Hunting,
949
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,950
and these guys were nailing pizza
to the ceiling, man,
950
00:45:45,242 --> 00:45:48,161
and, you know, jamming everything
they could in the toilet.
951
00:45:48,453 --> 00:45:50,288
And, you know, we... we actually tunneled
952
00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:53,458
a... a hole through the wall
into the manager's hotel room.
953
00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:58,338
They trashed this motel room that I...
That I had under my name,
954
00:45:58,630 --> 00:46:00,632
'cause I was the oldest guy in the band.
955
00:46:01,299 --> 00:46:03,802
So we had two rooms,
and they trashed them.
956
00:46:04,261 --> 00:46:06,861
Not too many years ago now
Kerry and I were having a conversation,
957
00:46:06,888 --> 00:46:08,282
and somehow that came up. He was like,
958
00:46:08,306 --> 00:46:09,986
"Yeah, I got in a lot
of trouble for that."
959
00:46:10,141 --> 00:46:13,561
That was kind of our first introduction
into traveling away from home.
960
00:46:16,648 --> 00:46:17,649
[Brian Posehn] In 1984,
961
00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:22,320
Wes Robinson organized a mini-festival
bringing together various types of bands.
962
00:46:22,696 --> 00:46:26,157
Although called Eastern Front,
the festival was affectionately known as
963
00:46:26,449 --> 00:46:27,449
Day on the Dirt,
964
00:46:27,617 --> 00:46:31,371
a sly nod towards Bill Graham's
much larger Day on the Green shows.
965
00:46:31,663 --> 00:46:35,875
[Mark Devito] It was how we would envision
what a day on the green should be,
966
00:46:36,167 --> 00:46:38,878
because these were our heroes.
These were our bands.
967
00:46:39,170 --> 00:46:42,507
[Brian Lew] And Wes Robinson,
who ran Ruthie's Inn, organized it.
968
00:46:42,799 --> 00:46:45,677
It was kind of like the Woodstock moment
of the Bay Area scene.
969
00:46:45,969 --> 00:46:48,972
He wanted people to be able
to do what they wanted to do
970
00:46:49,681 --> 00:46:52,892
and, you know,
hopefully make some money at it,
971
00:46:53,810 --> 00:46:57,814
and if you didn't make any money,
at least there was the show.
972
00:46:58,106 --> 00:46:59,834
[Mark Devito]
This was all at an aquatic park,
973
00:46:59,858 --> 00:47:01,043
which is at the bottom of Berkeley,
974
00:47:01,067 --> 00:47:05,071
right across this estuary
that flanks the 80 Interstate.
975
00:47:05,488 --> 00:47:08,783
The lineup was... Slayer, Exodus,
976
00:47:09,075 --> 00:47:12,120
Possessed, Suicidal Tendencies.
977
00:47:12,454 --> 00:47:14,174
It's kind of a defining
moment historically,
978
00:47:14,414 --> 00:47:15,915
because that's a crossover moment.
979
00:47:16,207 --> 00:47:17,607
Like, Suicidal was a hardcore band,
980
00:47:17,751 --> 00:47:20,351
and they were playing with Exodus
and Slayer, who are metal bands.
981
00:47:20,503 --> 00:47:23,089
I know for a fact
that the band could not play L.A.
982
00:47:23,381 --> 00:47:24,541
when I first joined the band.
983
00:47:25,467 --> 00:47:29,721
And, uh, basically Suicidal Tendencies
was banned from Los Angeles.
984
00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:32,373
Everyone sort of went like,
"Hey, we're not that different."
985
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,060
We love extreme music.
We fucking hate glam rock.
986
00:47:35,352 --> 00:47:38,188
We hated all the bullshit
about, like, you know, poser-type shit.
987
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,941
It was, like, kind of a defining moment,
because everyone who was there were like,
988
00:47:42,233 --> 00:47:44,194
"Wow, like, this is pretty cool."
989
00:47:44,486 --> 00:47:46,005
[male voice]
And you can see all the photos.
990
00:47:46,029 --> 00:47:49,574
I mean, all those guys
were fast friends already,
991
00:47:49,866 --> 00:47:51,868
and if not, that solidified it.
992
00:47:53,328 --> 00:47:54,930
[male voice] That was
one of the first shows where
993
00:47:54,954 --> 00:47:57,834
I started seeing, like, you know,
the camaraderie of the bands and stuff,
994
00:47:57,999 --> 00:48:00,719
and I think that's one of the things
that shows in the pictures, too.
995
00:48:01,753 --> 00:48:04,798
[Robert Trujillo] It was just amazing,
you know, the spirit up north,
996
00:48:05,090 --> 00:48:06,633
experiencing that positive energy.
997
00:48:06,925 --> 00:48:08,426
And for me it was all brand new,
998
00:48:08,718 --> 00:48:12,180
because, again, I didn't even
get a chance to play L.A. yet
999
00:48:12,472 --> 00:48:14,724
you know, with the...
With this band that was from LA.
1000
00:48:15,183 --> 00:48:16,863
[male voice]
It was a fast and furious pit,
1001
00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:18,103
and we had plenty of room.
1002
00:48:18,395 --> 00:48:21,398
The dirt was flying,
and, uh, it was a great show.
1003
00:48:23,483 --> 00:48:26,194
[Mustaine on microphone]
1004
00:48:26,945 --> 00:48:29,280
[Brian Posehn] Dave Mustaine
began his new band, Megadeth,
1005
00:48:29,572 --> 00:48:30,572
with a vengeance
1006
00:48:30,782 --> 00:48:35,120
and immediately played the Bay Area,
where he was welcomed with open arms.
1007
00:48:35,662 --> 00:48:37,914
This is Megadeth's first demo
1008
00:48:38,415 --> 00:48:43,378
that Dave recorded, uh, after getting
the original Megadeth together.
1009
00:48:43,753 --> 00:48:46,297
He sent them out to
maybe a half dozen fans and people.
1010
00:48:46,589 --> 00:48:48,216
He handwrote the track listing on it.
1011
00:48:48,508 --> 00:48:53,221
Dave had this friend Brian Lew
who offered to run our fan club,
1012
00:48:53,513 --> 00:48:55,807
which was basically consisted
of a post office box.
1013
00:48:56,099 --> 00:48:58,852
One day this letter shows up
that says,
1014
00:48:59,144 --> 00:49:01,855
"Hey, Dave, I hope your new shit's
faster than Metallica."
1015
00:49:02,272 --> 00:49:04,274
And that night, I kid you not,
1016
00:49:04,566 --> 00:49:06,901
we went to rehearsal
and sped every song up
1017
00:49:07,193 --> 00:49:08,611
by 10 to 20 beats per minute.
1018
00:49:08,903 --> 00:49:09,904
I mean, every song.
1019
00:49:10,196 --> 00:49:11,674
80 things like "Skull Beneath the Skin,"
which were like...
1020
00:49:11,698 --> 00:49:14,909
[vocalizing bass]
1021
00:49:15,243 --> 00:49:16,536
Kind of this Sabbath groove...
1022
00:49:16,828 --> 00:49:19,414
[vocalizing drums]
1023
00:49:20,123 --> 00:49:21,791
[fast-paced metal song playing]
1024
00:49:28,965 --> 00:49:30,234
[Kerry King] We'd been to
the Bay Area enough times.
1025
00:49:30,258 --> 00:49:30,925
I couldn't tell you how many,
1026
00:49:31,217 --> 00:49:34,345
but we'd been there enough to where
me showing up in Megadeth
1027
00:49:34,637 --> 00:49:36,397
is going to make people
think of Slayer, too.
1028
00:49:36,681 --> 00:49:38,641
I saw Mustaine playing Metallica.
1029
00:49:38,933 --> 00:49:41,269
Me and Jeff would both
sit in the crowd and go,
1030
00:49:41,561 --> 00:49:42,561
"How's he do that?
1031
00:49:42,812 --> 00:49:45,452
How's he playing that fucking shit
and not looking at his fingers."
1032
00:49:45,523 --> 00:49:47,710
You know, we would just be amazed
that he's just up there ripping,
1033
00:49:47,734 --> 00:49:48,443
looking over there.
1034
00:49:48,735 --> 00:49:50,778
So I was flattered
when Mustaine came calling.
1035
00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:53,823
[Mustaine] There's a lot of crazy folklore
1036
00:49:54,115 --> 00:49:58,578
about those first couple of days, weeks,
and months after I left New York.
1037
00:49:59,037 --> 00:50:02,749
When I got on the bus,
I rode all the way to California.
1038
00:50:03,041 --> 00:50:04,209
Did a lot of soul-searching.
1039
00:50:04,834 --> 00:50:07,295
I had already started writing lyrics.
1040
00:50:07,587 --> 00:50:10,131
The first lyric I wrote was
to the song "Set the World Afire,"
1041
00:50:10,423 --> 00:50:11,463
which was called Megadeth.
1042
00:50:11,799 --> 00:50:14,511
And I saw a piece of paper
on the floor of the bus
1043
00:50:14,802 --> 00:50:16,721
that was from Senator Alan Cranston.
1044
00:50:17,013 --> 00:50:18,908
And it was a handbill that
he had put out that said,
1045
00:50:18,932 --> 00:50:22,852
"The arsenal of Megadeath can't be ready."
He was talking about nuclear armament.
1046
00:50:23,394 --> 00:50:25,034
Arsenal of Megadeath,
that's a great line,
1047
00:50:25,146 --> 00:50:26,826
so I wrote it down and put it in the song.
1048
00:50:26,981 --> 00:50:29,781
Didn't think that, you know,
that would one day end up being the title.
1049
00:50:29,859 --> 00:50:31,152
My first show was with Megadeth,
1050
00:50:31,444 --> 00:50:34,298
and I remember the first time watching
Mustaine play. I just couldn't believe it.
1051
00:50:34,322 --> 00:50:38,409
As a band, that was the first place
that we went up there was Ruthie's.
1052
00:50:38,701 --> 00:50:41,913
And that was interesting,
because, uh, Ruthie's was so small,
1053
00:50:42,205 --> 00:50:44,666
we'd built this crazy stage
over at Kerry's house.
1054
00:50:44,958 --> 00:50:46,638
You know, I'd ask Kerry
if he would help us
1055
00:50:46,834 --> 00:50:48,545
until we'd find a permanent player,
1056
00:50:48,836 --> 00:50:52,006
and we built the stage 'cause
I wanted this war scene kind of thing.
1057
00:50:52,423 --> 00:50:55,552
When we got up there,
the roof was about this tall,
1058
00:50:55,843 --> 00:50:58,531
and we're trying to figure out how we're
gonna get all our stuff in there.
1059
00:50:58,555 --> 00:50:59,806
It's like... Well, shit.
1060
00:51:00,098 --> 00:51:01,867
[David Ellefson] And borrowing
every marshal in the community
1061
00:51:01,891 --> 00:51:03,771
and everything we could
buy out of the recycler.
1062
00:51:04,143 --> 00:51:06,063
You know, you got to
kind of keep your head down.
1063
00:51:06,229 --> 00:51:08,958
If you jump up in the air, you're going
to stick your head in a light socket.
1064
00:51:08,982 --> 00:51:11,693
He's like, "I'm going to put
together this super group
1065
00:51:12,193 --> 00:51:15,154
that is just going to
take fucking no prisoners, man."
1066
00:51:15,446 --> 00:51:18,283
[heavy metal song playing]
1067
00:51:25,582 --> 00:51:29,252
[vocalizing]
1068
00:51:30,837 --> 00:51:34,090
What I noticed around town is that there
were a lot of people posing and primping,
1069
00:51:34,382 --> 00:51:37,594
and wearing their studded wristbands
from the shops on Hollywood Boulevard.
1070
00:51:37,885 --> 00:51:40,045
And everybody looked like
Vince Neil or David Lee Roth,
1071
00:51:40,263 --> 00:51:41,389
but Dave was the real deal.
1072
00:51:42,056 --> 00:51:44,183
[guitar solo playing]
1073
00:51:46,561 --> 00:51:49,401
Everybody was really surprised
that Mustaine got booted out of the band,
1074
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,458
'Cause, I mean, back then
he was almost like the frontman.
1075
00:51:51,482 --> 00:51:53,722
He really had something to prove
after he left Metallica.
1076
00:51:53,860 --> 00:51:55,700
It was incredible how quick
he got it together.
1077
00:51:55,778 --> 00:51:59,365
Megadeth was a band that was
conceptualized before it was ever a band.
1078
00:51:59,657 --> 00:52:03,411
It was an architectural blueprint
of what the band was going to be,
1079
00:52:03,703 --> 00:52:08,291
and I think because that was drafted
in Dave apartment's and my apartment,
1080
00:52:08,875 --> 00:52:11,628
we've had this vision
of what we've been aiming for.
1081
00:52:12,045 --> 00:52:14,839
[playing fast-paced guitar solo]
1082
00:52:19,677 --> 00:52:24,974
It's really creative. It's a great blend,
and it's got that punk energy.
1083
00:52:29,437 --> 00:52:34,192
When we debuted the band in the Bay Area,
to see that frenzy happening...
1084
00:52:34,525 --> 00:52:37,862
A kid reached up and actually grabs
he string and breaks it off my bass,
1085
00:52:38,154 --> 00:52:39,834
[chuckles]
right in the middle of the song.
1086
00:52:40,073 --> 00:52:41,532
I'd never seen anything like this,
1087
00:52:41,824 --> 00:52:45,286
and people were literally, like,
bleeding on the stage from headbanging
1088
00:52:45,578 --> 00:52:46,621
and thrashing down front.
1089
00:52:47,163 --> 00:52:52,085
You could feel almost a tension, you know?
He's up there trying to prove himself.
1090
00:52:52,377 --> 00:52:54,962
Thank you very much!
1091
00:53:00,176 --> 00:53:04,055
[Brial Lew] They moved here maybe
January '83. They were gone in April.
1092
00:53:04,347 --> 00:53:09,018
They came back for, I think,
a month in June, after recording finished.
1093
00:53:09,310 --> 00:53:10,329
And then they were on tour.
1094
00:53:10,353 --> 00:53:12,873
So, like, that first year that they
quote-unquote moved to the Bay Area,
1095
00:53:12,897 --> 00:53:15,942
they were probably
only here a couple months.
1096
00:53:16,317 --> 00:53:19,570
We really had just come
from out of the underground.
1097
00:53:19,862 --> 00:53:21,072
We recorded Kill 'Em All.
1098
00:53:21,364 --> 00:53:26,327
We ran back to San Francisco to give it
to all the people who were our core group.
1099
00:53:26,744 --> 00:53:31,749
It was our opportunity to
put the scene on the fucking map.
1100
00:53:32,041 --> 00:53:34,836
Kill 'Em All came out
in December of '83, you know?
1101
00:53:35,128 --> 00:53:39,257
And in our second issue I made the review.
You know, we had record reviews.
1102
00:53:39,549 --> 00:53:42,343
You know, and I said Metallica...
They are gonna get a whole page.
1103
00:53:42,635 --> 00:53:44,887
Nobody knew at the time
how big they're going to get,
1104
00:53:45,179 --> 00:53:47,223
but I said this band is a killer.
1105
00:53:47,515 --> 00:53:49,600
So I made the headline,
"Metal Album of the Year:
1106
00:53:49,892 --> 00:53:50,893
"Kill 'Em All."
1107
00:53:51,978 --> 00:53:54,939
[Brian Posehn] Exodus recorded
their definitive thrash metal masterpiece,
1108
00:53:55,231 --> 00:53:57,984
Bonded by Blood, in 1984.
1109
00:53:58,651 --> 00:54:01,863
Bonded by Blood?
How do you not like Bonded by Blood?
1110
00:54:02,947 --> 00:54:05,658
I love Exodus, um,
especially from that time.
1111
00:54:05,950 --> 00:54:07,368
That's my favorite Exodus record.
1112
00:54:07,660 --> 00:54:09,954
Bonded by Blood
was kind of more anticipated than
1113
00:54:10,246 --> 00:54:11,539
Kill 'Em All in a lot of ways,
1114
00:54:11,831 --> 00:54:16,544
just because, you know, we spent more time
with Exodus than we did with Metallica.
1115
00:54:16,836 --> 00:54:19,297
Basically I ended up replacing Kirk.
1116
00:54:20,673 --> 00:54:23,673
We were never in the studio before,
so we're learning the process, you know,
1117
00:54:23,718 --> 00:54:26,763
the whole mike thing
and how to keep the guitars in tune,
1118
00:54:27,054 --> 00:54:28,734
like, because the mike hears everything...
1119
00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:32,977
And just learning from the very ground up
how to record an album.
1120
00:54:33,269 --> 00:54:36,439
[Gary Holt] When we recorded
Bonded by Blood at Prairie Sun studios,
1121
00:54:36,731 --> 00:54:38,733
our friends would come up
from the Bay Area,
1122
00:54:39,025 --> 00:54:40,385
and we'd party at night, you know.
1123
00:54:40,610 --> 00:54:44,113
And they'd get too drunk, and there's
fistfights and windows getting broken.
1124
00:54:44,405 --> 00:54:46,216
The whole thing with Bonded by Blood
was it's like,
1125
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,827
it's a chemistry that five kids had.
1126
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:51,788
Not knowing nothing about recording.
1127
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:53,915
We got nine songs together,
1128
00:54:55,333 --> 00:54:58,503
and we just want to put our everything
we have into these songs, man,
1129
00:54:58,795 --> 00:55:00,463
and... and just capture this vibe.
1130
00:55:01,214 --> 00:55:03,814
It's the craziest thing.
The very first note, man, is just like...
1131
00:55:04,050 --> 00:55:05,301
[imitates explosion]
1132
00:55:05,593 --> 00:55:07,595
["Bonded by Blood" plays]
1133
00:55:18,523 --> 00:55:20,733
♪ Bonded by blood ♪
1134
00:55:21,692 --> 00:55:24,445
Bonded by Blood, it's an amazing album.
1135
00:55:24,737 --> 00:55:26,155
The riffs, the speed.
1136
00:55:26,447 --> 00:55:29,659
That's my Exodus record.
That... That's the Exodus record.
1137
00:55:29,951 --> 00:55:34,330
It captured that kind of—-
that youthful angst and anger.
1138
00:55:34,622 --> 00:55:35,623
That was thrash metal.
1139
00:55:35,915 --> 00:55:38,334
That was a Bay Area
thrash metal record, you know?
1140
00:55:38,626 --> 00:55:40,586
So, you know,
Kill 'Em All and Bonded by Blood
1141
00:55:40,878 --> 00:55:43,714
they're... they're kind of like...
They're twins, in a way.
1142
00:55:44,006 --> 00:55:47,343
To this day, people are just like...
Man, Bonded by Blood, forget about it.
1143
00:55:47,635 --> 00:55:49,488
There are quite a few covers
from that period of time
1144
00:55:49,512 --> 00:55:51,740
where you kind of look at them
and you're like... Wow, really?
1145
00:55:51,764 --> 00:55:53,224
But none the less,
1146
00:55:53,516 --> 00:55:59,230
I mean, what was inside that sleeve
was nothing but pure Bay Area thrash.
1147
00:55:59,522 --> 00:56:01,732
What do you guys do with posers?
1148
00:56:02,024 --> 00:56:03,401
- Poser.
- What?
1149
00:56:03,693 --> 00:56:04,402
That guy's a poser.
1150
00:56:04,694 --> 00:56:05,736
What do you teach them?
1151
00:56:06,028 --> 00:56:07,405
[crowd] A lesson in violence!
1152
00:56:07,697 --> 00:56:08,823
Here's a poser right here.
1153
00:56:09,115 --> 00:56:11,367
Some places don't know
that you kill posers.
1154
00:56:11,659 --> 00:56:13,219
Break a poser's leg. It makes me smile.
1155
00:56:13,369 --> 00:56:14,579
Posers must die!
1156
00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:16,080
There's only one Paul, man.
1157
00:56:16,372 --> 00:56:17,874
[thrash metal song playing]
1158
00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:22,693
[Sven Soderlund] He's the epitome
of what a singer should be,
1159
00:56:22,879 --> 00:56:24,130
because if you weren't into it,
1160
00:56:24,422 --> 00:56:27,216
he's all, "Pummel that poser." [laughs]
1161
00:56:27,508 --> 00:56:30,219
He'd go on one of those rants
about killing posers onstage,
1162
00:56:30,511 --> 00:56:32,680
and if there were posers
in the crowd, they worried.
1163
00:56:32,972 --> 00:56:35,850
My grandmother makes more noise than that!
1164
00:56:37,059 --> 00:56:39,538
[both] My grandmother can make more noise
than that, and she's dead.
1165
00:56:39,562 --> 00:56:42,082
He would go to people's houses
and completely trash their house.
1166
00:56:42,189 --> 00:56:45,568
The Exodus guys would be there,
and Paul would kick people out.
1167
00:56:45,860 --> 00:56:47,820
One of the prerequisites
to getting into the party
1168
00:56:47,904 --> 00:56:50,132
was you had to bring a two-by-four
so you could destroy the place.
1169
00:56:50,156 --> 00:56:51,476
I remember grabbing a beer bottle
1170
00:56:51,574 --> 00:56:53,294
and just firing it
straight at the fireplace
1171
00:56:53,451 --> 00:56:56,245
[chuckles] right when we walked in,
and we just... it just erupted.
1172
00:56:56,537 --> 00:56:57,973
[Harald Oimen] He kind of got away
with a bunch of stuff,
1173
00:56:57,997 --> 00:57:00,017
stuff that was kind of messed up actually,
to be honest.
1174
00:57:00,041 --> 00:57:02,168
He handcuffed someone to a tree like this.
1175
00:57:03,336 --> 00:57:05,504
He let a live sewer rat loose
in my house one time.
1176
00:57:05,796 --> 00:57:06,839
We'd cut people's hair.
1177
00:57:07,131 --> 00:57:09,467
If you had a Ratt pin.
1178
00:57:09,759 --> 00:57:10,759
And a Bon Jovi shirt.
1179
00:57:10,885 --> 00:57:12,362
A Motley Crue shirt
or something like that.
1180
00:57:12,386 --> 00:57:14,239
[chuckles] He'd strip you
right where you stood.
1181
00:57:14,263 --> 00:57:16,724
I'm gonna slice that shirt up.
We'll slice you with it.
1182
00:57:17,016 --> 00:57:19,477
If that's all he did,
they were lucky. [chuckles]
1183
00:57:19,769 --> 00:57:20,811
I remember his place.
1184
00:57:21,103 --> 00:57:24,106
He lived in just a... like a...
He lived on a concrete slab.
1185
00:57:24,398 --> 00:57:25,638
His wolf lived with him, Bidor.
1186
00:57:25,816 --> 00:57:27,860
Bidor and Paul
were pretty much inseparable.
1187
00:57:28,152 --> 00:57:29,362
He had a house-wrecking party.
1188
00:57:29,654 --> 00:57:32,281
Some pretty crazy shit happened
at these parties.
1189
00:57:32,573 --> 00:57:33,866
A lot of beer, a lot of liquor.
1190
00:57:34,158 --> 00:57:35,158
Pictures getting smashed.
1191
00:57:35,368 --> 00:57:36,869
Walls being kicked in with holes.
1192
00:57:37,161 --> 00:57:40,373
Just slamming our arms down the hallways,
just punching in all the plaster.
1193
00:57:44,835 --> 00:57:47,838
Houses dismantled,
you know, piece by piece.
1194
00:57:51,425 --> 00:57:55,054
[Brian Posehn] Paul Baloff passed away
following a stroke in 2002.
1195
00:57:55,554 --> 00:57:59,100
He's beloved by his friends
and metal fans everywhere.
1196
00:58:01,894 --> 00:58:04,981
[Gary Holt] Paul, for what he lacked
in pure musical talent,
1197
00:58:05,272 --> 00:58:07,984
he had all the drive and passion
that you'd ever want,
1198
00:58:08,275 --> 00:58:10,653
could we have done more
to keep him around?
1199
00:58:11,195 --> 00:58:14,031
Probably yeah,
might've been a failure in attempting it.
1200
00:58:14,323 --> 00:58:15,992
I'm happy. I've got a million memories
1201
00:58:16,283 --> 00:58:21,747
and five billion photographs worth
of fucking awesome times to look back on.
1202
00:58:23,749 --> 00:58:26,293
He's like the greatest
thrash metal frontman of all time,
1203
00:58:26,585 --> 00:58:28,254
and he made one album, twice.
1204
00:58:38,222 --> 00:58:40,391
We were all by his bedside
in the hospital,
1205
00:58:40,683 --> 00:58:43,853
and Rick and I lowered
him into the ground, you know.
1206
00:58:44,395 --> 00:58:45,646
Fuck, you know, I miss him.
1207
00:58:51,027 --> 00:58:52,069
The legend.
1208
00:58:52,361 --> 00:58:54,155
- I miss him every day.
- See you, buddy.
1209
00:59:01,537 --> 00:59:04,040
[Brian Posehn] In the mid 19805,
Lars and James lived
1210
00:59:04,331 --> 00:59:07,209
at the infamous Metallica mansion
in El Cerrito.
1211
00:59:07,835 --> 00:59:09,503
Yes, the Metalla-mansion,
1212
00:59:09,795 --> 00:59:13,507
and that is certainly not
one of our cars right there. [chuckles]
1213
00:59:13,799 --> 00:59:16,135
That Porsche was not parked there
because of us.
1214
00:59:16,761 --> 00:59:18,561
You know, at least
with the Metallica mansion,
1215
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:21,682
it was literally almost a straight shot
back from Ruthie's Inn.
1216
00:59:21,974 --> 00:59:24,255
So, like, if there was a show
or whatever at Ruthie's Inn,
1217
00:59:24,393 --> 00:59:28,230
it was a straight shot almost down
San Pablo Avenue back to their house.
1218
00:59:28,564 --> 00:59:30,107
Definitely a bachelor pad.
1219
00:59:30,566 --> 00:59:32,526
You don't dare go into
the bedrooms at all.
1220
00:59:32,860 --> 00:59:35,446
The front room's covered with posters
and beer bottles.
1221
00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:39,825
I remember pulling all the furniture out
the front door right here
1222
00:59:40,117 --> 00:59:41,827
and hosting this party.
1223
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:45,122
We left the turntable and maybe
a couple chairs, maybe a couch,
1224
00:59:45,414 --> 00:59:48,459
and, uh, obviously the booze. [laughs]
1225
00:59:48,751 --> 00:59:51,045
80 music, booze,
and we would just go insane.
1226
00:59:51,337 --> 00:59:54,173
Wrestling and have these
crazy mosh pits in the house.
1227
00:59:54,465 --> 00:59:56,545
Usually we're out partying
in the streets or whatnot,
1228
00:59:56,717 --> 00:59:59,845
so to actually have a place to go
and hang out was pretty cool.
1229
01:00:05,643 --> 01:00:06,723
Even the Metallica house...
1230
01:00:06,936 --> 01:00:08,736
I think Exodus were there
more than Metallica,
1231
01:00:08,854 --> 01:00:11,607
you know, 'cause they were already
on tour constantly.
1232
01:00:11,899 --> 01:00:15,236
[Brian Posehn] While touring,
lonely Metallica members wrote postcards
1233
01:00:15,528 --> 01:00:17,404
to keep in touch with the scene back home.
1234
01:00:17,696 --> 01:00:18,405
AWW.
1235
01:00:18,697 --> 01:00:20,092
[James Hetfield]
Yeah, postcards, letters,
1236
01:00:20,116 --> 01:00:21,996
that was the only way
you could keep in contact.
1237
01:00:22,076 --> 01:00:23,369
We'd get in town and, you know,
1238
01:00:23,661 --> 01:00:26,413
write down what's happening
and... and just send it off.
1239
01:00:26,705 --> 01:00:29,542
All those early Ruthie's Inn shows
1240
01:00:29,834 --> 01:00:32,962
that were kind of laying the foundation
for the Bay Area scene were happening.
1241
01:00:33,254 --> 01:00:36,257
Hey, John, how you doing? We're...
You know... We're jamming and playing.
1242
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:40,052
And... OK, we're going to go out
and go party, go drinking.
1243
01:00:40,344 --> 01:00:41,464
And then you'd flip it over.
1244
01:00:41,929 --> 01:00:43,305
Hey, John, NS 2200 AM.
1245
01:00:43,848 --> 01:00:45,933
We're here. We're raging.
We're getting drunk.
1246
01:00:46,225 --> 01:00:48,185
We're drinking beers
and hanging out with Venom.
1247
01:00:48,602 --> 01:00:52,815
Metal up your ass, right-stack Marshall,
Lars Ulrich, drummer in parentheses.
1248
01:00:53,107 --> 01:00:55,467
In hindsight, it was probably them
dealing with all the shit
1249
01:00:55,609 --> 01:00:57,921
that was happening with them. You know,
they were going to the next level,
1250
01:00:57,945 --> 01:00:59,446
thousand of miles away from home.
1251
01:00:59,738 --> 01:01:02,158
Being away from home,
being away from your friends,
1252
01:01:02,449 --> 01:01:05,286
being a-away from your girlfriend.
It was a big deal.
1253
01:01:05,578 --> 01:01:08,873
And they liked to write letters.
You know, back then we all wrote letters.
1254
01:01:09,165 --> 01:01:12,293
Flying the flag for the Bay Area
in San Francisco in the scene.
1255
01:01:12,585 --> 01:01:16,172
So it was important for us
to, uh, stay in touch with everybody
1256
01:01:16,463 --> 01:01:18,174
that was back at home, holding the fort.
1257
01:01:18,465 --> 01:01:19,693
[James Hetfield] See if you know this one.
1258
01:01:19,717 --> 01:01:21,468
I want you all to scream it back at me!
1259
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:22,760
This is titled,
1260
01:01:22,928 --> 01:01:27,016
"Seek and Destroy!"
1261
01:01:27,892 --> 01:01:31,061
[playing "Seek and destroy"]
1262
01:01:40,613 --> 01:01:44,742
Cliff would write me really
long letters from Copenhagen
1263
01:01:46,202 --> 01:01:48,495
in his horrible writing
1264
01:01:48,787 --> 01:01:51,999
and just talk about
how good things were going.
1265
01:01:52,291 --> 01:01:53,626
This tour is great.
1266
01:01:54,835 --> 01:01:56,545
First Aardschok festival I called Lars.
1267
01:01:56,837 --> 01:02:01,008
If he wanted to open up for my festival
because I thought it was a great band.
1268
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:04,136
You know, I'd send them money
for plane tickets and stuff.
1269
01:02:04,428 --> 01:02:06,031
[Andre Verhuysen] It definitely
made a big impression.
1270
01:02:06,055 --> 01:02:09,725
You could already tell that
these guys were going to go somewhere.
1271
01:02:10,017 --> 01:02:12,394
Everybody knew. I mean, we all knew.
1272
01:02:12,686 --> 01:02:15,272
Some old black and white pictures
of Metallica at that show.
1273
01:02:15,564 --> 01:02:18,567
They were so nervous there
around that time to do the show.
1274
01:02:18,943 --> 01:02:22,279
Even though, you know, they were away,
they were still part of the scene.
1275
01:02:22,571 --> 01:02:24,740
You heard that the band
was blowing people away,
1276
01:02:25,032 --> 01:02:26,712
just like they did when they started here.
1277
01:02:26,742 --> 01:02:29,745
♪ Our brains are on fire
With the feeling to kill ♪
1278
01:02:30,037 --> 01:02:33,040
♪ And it won't go away
Until our dreams are fulfilled ♪
1279
01:02:33,332 --> 01:02:35,876
♪ There is only one thing on our minds ♪
1280
01:02:36,168 --> 01:02:39,255
♪ Don't try running away
'Cause you're the one we will find ♪
1281
01:02:39,546 --> 01:02:40,798
♪ Runn'mg
On our way I
1282
01:02:41,090 --> 01:02:42,383
♪ Hiding
You will pay ♪
1283
01:02:42,675 --> 01:02:44,551
♪ Dying
One thousand deaths ♪
1284
01:02:46,053 --> 01:02:47,763
Lars said no. We didn't have the cover.
1285
01:02:48,055 --> 01:02:49,640
It was just Kirk on there.
1286
01:02:49,932 --> 01:02:51,642
Tapes were being copied the next day,
1287
01:02:51,934 --> 01:02:56,272
and they were sent to Germany, Belgium,
France, all over the world.
1288
01:02:57,523 --> 01:02:59,024
♪ Running
On our way ♪
1289
01:02:59,316 --> 01:03:00,526
♪ Hiding
You will pay ♪
1290
01:03:00,818 --> 01:03:01,860
♪ Dying ♪
1291
01:03:04,488 --> 01:03:07,157
[Lars Ulrich] It wasn't really
until James started getting
1292
01:03:07,449 --> 01:03:11,161
some European shows under his belt
in the spring of 1984,
1293
01:03:11,495 --> 01:03:15,624
where he started being able to
sort of command the big, European crowds.
1294
01:03:15,958 --> 01:03:18,419
That's when he became
James Hetfield, the frontman.
1295
01:03:18,711 --> 01:03:21,380
Are we fucking nuts tonight!
1296
01:03:21,672 --> 01:03:23,215
[crowd cheering]
1297
01:03:23,507 --> 01:03:24,818
[James Hetfield] This was certainly not
1298
01:03:24,842 --> 01:03:27,094
the shy kid that was in high school,
hating life.
1299
01:03:27,469 --> 01:03:31,181
This was the kid that
finally found his voice
1300
01:03:31,473 --> 01:03:35,144
and got to be in a band
that was able to help express it for him.
1301
01:03:38,856 --> 01:03:40,296
[Steffan Chirazi] We were very aware
1302
01:03:40,357 --> 01:03:42,077
there was something brewing in
San Francisco
1303
01:03:42,109 --> 01:03:43,829
that was a little heavier,
a little angrier.
1304
01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:46,864
Uh, Exodus, you know,
were definitely part of that.
1305
01:03:47,156 --> 01:03:49,396
[Brian Posehn] Blown away
by what he saw in the Bay Area,
1306
01:03:49,616 --> 01:03:52,202
Andre Verhuysen booked Exodus
into the Dynamo Club.
1307
01:03:52,786 --> 01:03:56,248
The show has passed into legend
spread by numerous bootlegs.
1308
01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:58,834
I want to dedicate
this one to Andre over here.
1309
01:03:59,126 --> 01:04:01,086
Who's here because of Andre?
1310
01:04:01,378 --> 01:04:04,048
[Andre Verhuysen]
That was Exodus's first tour of Europe.
1311
01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:06,800
The only club show
they did was at the Dynamo,
1312
01:04:07,092 --> 01:04:09,970
and they did 300 or 350 people
by themselves.
1313
01:04:10,262 --> 01:04:13,766
More people in there than
I think officially were allowed,
1314
01:04:14,058 --> 01:04:15,517
maybe three times as much,
1315
01:04:15,809 --> 01:04:17,529
because everybody wanted
to see those bands,
1316
01:04:17,686 --> 01:04:20,189
and Dynamo Club was
the only place you could see them.
1317
01:04:20,647 --> 01:04:22,024
[thrash metal song playing]
1318
01:04:42,086 --> 01:04:45,714
From my pen pals, Brian Lew
and Andy Airborne Anderson,
1319
01:04:46,006 --> 01:04:48,926
who was very close with Exodus,
I got some live tapes, you know.
1320
01:04:49,218 --> 01:04:52,554
And we were fascinated.
They were even faster than Metallica.
1321
01:04:52,846 --> 01:04:54,973
They were even a little bit more intense.
1322
01:04:55,265 --> 01:04:59,436
Word got out, and word by mouth is
the strongest promotion that you can get.
1323
01:04:59,728 --> 01:05:01,648
[Brian Posehn]
While Metallica were away touring,
1324
01:05:01,855 --> 01:05:03,941
Pam and Connie were
house-sitting the mansion.
1325
01:05:04,233 --> 01:05:06,819
[Connie] We had sort of screwed up
their finances along the way.
1326
01:05:07,111 --> 01:05:08,871
We weren't very good
at balancing Checkbooks.
1327
01:05:09,113 --> 01:05:10,632
Mark had just left
the checkbook and, uh...
1328
01:05:10,656 --> 01:05:13,117
He left a checkbook
that was signed with checks,
1329
01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:17,204
and we were just supposed to deposit money
and then give them the checks.
1330
01:05:17,496 --> 01:05:20,499
[Connie] I had to go to my
very conservative, Republican mom and dad
1331
01:05:20,791 --> 01:05:23,001
and ask for them to bail out Metallica.
1332
01:05:23,293 --> 01:05:26,422
So I like to say that my mom,
Mike and Carole Bryant
1333
01:05:26,713 --> 01:05:28,441
sort of saved
the Metallica band. [chuckling]
1334
01:05:28,465 --> 01:05:30,300
- Sorry, guys.
- So there you go.
1335
01:05:30,592 --> 01:05:32,886
- It all worked out.
- It all worked out, yeah.
1336
01:05:35,013 --> 01:05:37,533
[Brian Posehn] New bands were
rising everywhere in the Bay Area,
1337
01:05:37,766 --> 01:05:39,601
inspired by the scene they were living in.
1338
01:05:40,018 --> 01:05:44,064
Bands like Testament, Death Angel,
Vio-lence, Forbidden,
1339
01:05:44,356 --> 01:05:46,817
and Possessed all made
their mark on the metal scene.
1340
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:50,487
Each year there'd be a band
that would kind of step up
1341
01:05:50,779 --> 01:05:54,408
into the role of being able to headline
a show at, say, Ruthie's or the Stone.
1342
01:05:54,825 --> 01:05:56,493
Metallica came out with Kill 'Em All,
1343
01:05:56,785 --> 01:05:58,745
and they were doing
the Kill 'Em All For One tour.
1344
01:05:58,787 --> 01:06:00,307
We stood right on the edge of the pit,
1345
01:06:00,372 --> 01:06:05,461
and we head-banged for the entire
fucking show when it was Cliff Burton,
1346
01:06:05,752 --> 01:06:07,629
and he's doing "Anesthesia Pulling Teeth."
1347
01:06:07,921 --> 01:06:09,715
We're like...
These guys are fucking amazing.
1348
01:06:10,257 --> 01:06:12,509
And the whole way home it was like,
1349
01:06:13,010 --> 01:06:15,596
we're going to start a band,
we're going to start playing shows,
1350
01:06:15,888 --> 01:06:17,128
and we're going to play thrash.
1351
01:06:17,514 --> 01:06:19,714
All those people would be going
to the shows at Ruthie's
1352
01:06:19,850 --> 01:06:21,226
in the Bay Area clubs and stuff,
1353
01:06:21,643 --> 01:06:24,938
and, uh, basically they kind of looked up
on stage and said... I can do that.
1354
01:06:25,230 --> 01:06:28,358
You always hear the old cats
talk about the Beatles on Ed Sullivan,
1355
01:06:28,901 --> 01:06:31,296
and, you know, how they picked up
a guitar after they saw that.
1356
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,364
That was my Beatles/Ed Sullivan moment,
1357
01:06:34,656 --> 01:06:37,826
but if we wanted to be something,
if we wanted to matter,
1358
01:06:38,118 --> 01:06:40,078
we had to get into Ruthie's.
1359
01:06:40,370 --> 01:06:43,624
And if we could survive Ruthie's,
and not get killed,
1360
01:06:43,916 --> 01:06:45,709
and not get booed off the stage,
1361
01:06:46,001 --> 01:06:47,841
and not get the mike ripped down
in front of it
1362
01:06:48,003 --> 01:06:51,048
like people were prone to do,
and survive the Slay Team,
1363
01:06:51,673 --> 01:06:53,509
then that would be the ultimate.
1364
01:06:56,220 --> 01:07:00,307
You can't tell the story
of the San Francisco metal scene
1365
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:03,143
without talking about Debbie Abono.
1366
01:07:03,435 --> 01:07:08,482
She managed one of the most hardcore bands
to come out of the Bay Area,
1367
01:07:08,774 --> 01:07:12,361
which was Possessed, you know,
super Satanic speed metal.
1368
01:07:12,653 --> 01:07:13,987
This is metal mom right here.
1369
01:07:14,279 --> 01:07:17,407
I know there's a few
metal moms across the globe,
1370
01:07:17,783 --> 01:07:19,076
but this was ours.
1371
01:07:19,618 --> 01:07:21,662
I broke my leg at a DRI show.
1372
01:07:21,954 --> 01:07:23,994
She basically nursed me
back to health at her house.
1373
01:07:24,248 --> 01:07:28,126
She was the mom of the scene, you know?
Every show she'd be there for every band.
1374
01:07:28,919 --> 01:07:32,839
She lived at a house in Penol,
and after parties we'd be at her house.
1375
01:07:33,131 --> 01:07:36,218
[Alex Skolnick] She really saw
everybody in that scene as human,
1376
01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:39,137
whereas there was a lot of demonization...
1377
01:07:40,430 --> 01:07:43,308
of the... you know, the youth.
1378
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,603
She knew that we needed a safe place,
1379
01:07:46,895 --> 01:07:49,273
and Debbie Abono's house
was always a safe place.
1380
01:07:49,565 --> 01:07:50,605
You know, a party would...
1381
01:07:50,732 --> 01:07:52,892
- Last a couple of days. [laughs]
- Last a couple days.
1382
01:07:53,026 --> 01:07:55,106
I know sometimes I'd be going
to school the next day,
1383
01:07:55,279 --> 01:07:59,908
walking through the people
who were still hanging out at my house.
1384
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,345
[Nancy] They all knew that
Debbie would take care of them
1385
01:08:02,369 --> 01:08:04,055
- if they didn't have anywhere to go.
- [Julie] Mm-hmm.
1386
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:05,974
[Rick Hunolt] The word-of—mouth
kind of got... 'Cause you go...
1387
01:08:05,998 --> 01:08:07,958
Hey, I need this
or I need that for my band.
1388
01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:09,930
And my mom would go out
and get it for you.
1389
01:08:10,127 --> 01:08:11,920
For me personally, she helped me a ton.
1390
01:08:12,713 --> 01:08:15,757
I started taking guitar lessons
from Joe Satriani. I couldn't afford it.
1391
01:08:16,049 --> 01:08:18,552
She paid for it, and, you know,
I couldn't thank her enough.
1392
01:08:18,844 --> 01:08:21,114
There's no way I'd be anywhere
I was right now without Debbie,
1393
01:08:21,138 --> 01:08:24,474
so, you know, I'm eternally grateful
for everything she did.
1394
01:08:24,766 --> 01:08:28,687
For young, 16-year-old Larry Lalonde,
he's in tenth grade in high school,
1395
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:30,559
and they have a record out.
1396
01:08:30,731 --> 01:08:34,860
You know, imagine being a tenth-grader,
and you have an actual album.
1397
01:08:35,152 --> 01:08:37,487
And you're playing in clubs.
1398
01:08:37,779 --> 01:08:39,424
I remember kind of showing up
at high school and going like...
1399
01:08:39,448 --> 01:08:41,509
"Hey, I've got a record,"
and them being like... "Yeah, big deal."
1400
01:08:41,533 --> 01:08:44,095
Like, people kind of being like...
What, you think you're hot shit now?
1401
01:08:44,119 --> 01:08:46,997
Then... then she'd get tapes
constantly in the mail.
1402
01:08:47,289 --> 01:08:49,708
She'd get hundreds of them
from other bands,
1403
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,460
wanting her to manage them.
1404
01:08:51,752 --> 01:08:53,629
Really looked out for everybody, you know?
1405
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,049
And when she managed Forbidden,
she... she would go on tour.
1406
01:08:57,341 --> 01:09:00,802
I think she was 57 years old
when she was doing this.
1407
01:09:01,094 --> 01:09:04,556
I mean, just going out on tour in a van
for two months across America
1408
01:09:04,848 --> 01:09:06,892
at 57 years old.
1409
01:09:07,184 --> 01:09:09,019
You know, like, that's fucking crazy.
1410
01:09:09,603 --> 01:09:13,815
And it's everything that...
The horrors probably that you've heard of.
1411
01:09:14,107 --> 01:09:16,401
She put up with a lot of shenanigans
from us, you know?
1412
01:09:16,693 --> 01:09:19,653
Uh, one time I guess they had, like,
a porno magazine in the back of the...
1413
01:09:19,696 --> 01:09:20,696
In the back of the van,
1414
01:09:20,739 --> 01:09:24,576
and they, uh, taped a bunch of pictures
to the inside windows of the van.
1415
01:09:24,868 --> 01:09:26,828
And we come pulling into a gas station,
1416
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,123
and here's this grandma, you know,
this... this older lady, pulling in.
1417
01:09:30,415 --> 01:09:32,834
And then here's the most
obscene pictures on the windows.
1418
01:09:33,126 --> 01:09:34,729
And she couldn't believe
we'd do that stuff.
1419
01:09:34,753 --> 01:09:36,073
[rapid double-bass drums playing]
1420
01:09:37,547 --> 01:09:39,341
[guttural, growling vocals]
1421
01:09:50,977 --> 01:09:53,105
I always considered us
the third wave of thrash.
1422
01:09:53,397 --> 01:09:56,566
So it's like Metallica, Slayer,
and Exodus was the first wave.
1423
01:09:56,858 --> 01:10:00,362
And then Testament, Death Angel,
and Vio-Ience, Forbidden.
1424
01:10:00,654 --> 01:10:04,700
I started auditioning and just went
from band to band to band, you know?
1425
01:10:04,991 --> 01:10:06,743
And finally it clicked
with Forbidden Evil.
1426
01:10:07,202 --> 01:10:09,538
A band that young could get
a show at Ruthie's Inn,
1427
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:11,581
and no one would bat an eye.
1428
01:10:11,873 --> 01:10:13,851
[Larry Lalonde] We're hanging out at,
like, Ruthie's Inn and the Stone.
1429
01:10:13,875 --> 01:10:16,086
We're not supposed to be there,
because we're 14.
1430
01:10:16,378 --> 01:10:20,549
My first show ever was November 24, 1984,
Megadeth and Death Angel.
1431
01:10:20,841 --> 01:10:23,361
When they were loading in, you know,
we were making fun of them.
1432
01:10:23,468 --> 01:10:25,468
Like, you know,
your mom's driving you to the show.
1433
01:10:25,637 --> 01:10:26,888
Then we'd get all pissed off.
1434
01:10:27,180 --> 01:10:29,200
Why do they always refer
to us as just so young and stuff
1435
01:10:29,224 --> 01:10:30,910
and just focusing on
the fact that we're young?
1436
01:10:30,934 --> 01:10:33,979
It was hard to put a band together,
especially if you're 15.
1437
01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:37,733
I also knew that if I could
just get through one show,
1438
01:10:38,024 --> 01:10:40,318
it'll be a positive experience.
I need to do this.
1439
01:10:40,610 --> 01:10:42,090
Alex history... I'm sure he told you.
1440
01:10:42,279 --> 01:10:44,531
You know, he's 15
and didn't have teenage years.
1441
01:10:44,823 --> 01:10:48,577
He toured the whole time, you know,
from the first record to the fifth record.
1442
01:10:48,869 --> 01:10:51,288
We did a record every year
and toured ever year:
1443
01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:52,580
five records, five years.
1444
01:10:52,998 --> 01:10:56,251
[Brian Posehn] Possessed is credited
with starting the death metal genre.
1445
01:10:56,543 --> 01:10:58,896
[Larry Lalonde] You know,
the whole Satanic theme was kind of funny.
1446
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,680
I don't think anyone
was actually into Satan.
1447
01:11:00,714 --> 01:11:03,383
It just freaked people out, so. [laughs]
1448
01:11:04,092 --> 01:11:05,594
[guitar riff playing]
1449
01:11:12,893 --> 01:11:14,269
[Brian Posehn] In August 1985,
1450
01:11:14,561 --> 01:11:18,148
Metallica played Bill Graham's
legendary Day on the Green festival.
1451
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:21,902
On a bill that featured
Scorpions and Yngwie Malmsteen,
1452
01:11:22,194 --> 01:11:23,987
Metallica stole the show.
1453
01:11:24,488 --> 01:11:26,531
I was there. It was insane.
1454
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:30,452
Did we all come here
to kick some fucking ass or what?
1455
01:11:30,744 --> 01:11:34,748
The fact that Metallica got
a chance to play at Donington
1456
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,000
and then two weeks later
at Day on the Green
1457
01:11:37,292 --> 01:11:39,377
was just a total mind fuck.
1458
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:42,589
Me, what I remember
is going in there kind of cold,
1459
01:11:42,881 --> 01:11:44,341
not really knowing what's going on
1460
01:11:44,633 --> 01:11:50,096
but blown away
at the consumer satisfaction.
1461
01:11:50,388 --> 01:11:56,228
The audience had so fervently embraced
this from the minute that band set stage
1462
01:11:56,603 --> 01:12:00,023
that it wasn't even a matter
of whether I understood it or not.
1463
01:12:00,315 --> 01:12:02,859
I could tell that these
people understood it,
1464
01:12:03,151 --> 01:12:05,779
and I witnessed the extraordinary
fervor and enthusiasm.
1465
01:12:06,071 --> 01:12:07,823
It was hard not to be swept up in it.
1466
01:12:08,114 --> 01:12:11,368
[Alex Skolnick] With most other bands,
bass is sort of a background role,
1467
01:12:12,744 --> 01:12:14,871
but with that version of Metallica,
1468
01:12:15,288 --> 01:12:16,748
it was featured.
1469
01:12:20,001 --> 01:12:22,838
Cliff had a very serious
attack to his strings.
1470
01:12:23,129 --> 01:12:26,341
His technique was very abrasive,
and there was a lot of power in it.
1471
01:12:26,633 --> 01:12:29,678
It was almost like this punk attitude
coming out of his fingertips,
1472
01:12:29,970 --> 01:12:34,266
and yet he was very graceful
with his connection to classical music.
1473
01:12:36,309 --> 01:12:38,562
[playing heavily distorted bass]
1474
01:12:46,111 --> 01:12:49,906
It can't be overstated
what a huge moment that was
1475
01:12:50,198 --> 01:12:53,660
for not just Metallica
but for the whole Bay Area scene.
1476
01:12:53,952 --> 01:12:56,055
The fact that Metallica
were playing at Day on the Green,
1477
01:12:56,079 --> 01:12:58,119
it was like all of us
were playing Day on the Green.
1478
01:12:58,373 --> 01:13:01,001
[James Hetfield] Day on the Green
has been around since the 70s.
1479
01:13:01,334 --> 01:13:04,963
For us to be asked to be part of it.
Didn't care where we were on the bill.
1480
01:13:05,255 --> 01:13:10,802
Ratt was placed above Metallica,
which was sacrilegious, to say the least.
1481
01:13:11,094 --> 01:13:14,890
So I painted this banner
with, you know, Metallica logo
1482
01:13:15,181 --> 01:13:18,602
crushing down on this rat
that was flipped upside down
1483
01:13:18,894 --> 01:13:20,437
with a little spiked wristband,
1484
01:13:20,729 --> 01:13:22,929
and it was sitting next to
a thing that said rat poison.
1485
01:13:23,648 --> 01:13:28,778
And I got berated by a couple
overweight ladies in spandex.
1486
01:13:29,195 --> 01:13:32,073
You know, fucking Metallica came out,
and they just took over.
1487
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,121
As soon as they got on stage,
it was the stone in the pond.
1488
01:13:38,997 --> 01:13:43,001
Concentric circles of violence
spread throughout.
1489
01:13:43,460 --> 01:13:47,130
I remember standing there stage left
and going there's Metallica,
1490
01:13:47,422 --> 01:13:48,798
and there's 60,000 people.
1491
01:13:49,090 --> 01:13:51,801
It's 1985.
It's like, yeah, this is really cool.
1492
01:13:52,093 --> 01:13:55,430
♪ Make his fight on the hill
In the early day ♪
1493
01:13:55,722 --> 01:13:57,766
♪ Constant chill deep inside ♪
1494
01:14:00,310 --> 01:14:02,395
I don't think anyone had seen a mosh pit,
1495
01:14:02,729 --> 01:14:05,774
and it didn't occur to me to go,
"And there's going to be a mosh pit."
1496
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:10,987
♪ For whom the bell tolls ♪
1497
01:14:11,279 --> 01:14:15,450
So for the both of us,
to be there onstage on Day on the Green,
1498
01:14:15,742 --> 01:14:17,744
it was a huge accomplishment.
1499
01:14:21,247 --> 01:14:24,834
[James Hetfield] The whole metal community
was excited and supporting us,
1500
01:14:25,126 --> 01:14:28,713
especially for Cliff,
being from the Bay Area,
1501
01:14:29,047 --> 01:14:30,173
it was like heaven for him.
1502
01:14:30,465 --> 01:14:34,052
[woman] Everyone knows
about that worldwide, so, he was excited.
1503
01:14:40,392 --> 01:14:43,603
After the Day on the Green show,
we did our normal stuff, you know?
1504
01:14:43,895 --> 01:14:46,356
James and I went out
to the crowd to throw fruit.
1505
01:14:46,648 --> 01:14:48,608
Fred Rotten Cotton
and a few of the others,
1506
01:14:49,275 --> 01:14:51,820
you know, had some beverages
and just went crazy.
1507
01:14:52,112 --> 01:14:55,907
Took avocados and crammed through,
uh, vents. Air-conditioning vents.
1508
01:14:56,199 --> 01:14:57,839
Just wrecked the backstage dressing room.
1509
01:14:57,867 --> 01:14:59,953
You know, you're supposed to
trash shit, you know.
1510
01:15:00,370 --> 01:15:01,450
So we did. We destroyed it.
1511
01:15:02,747 --> 01:15:05,083
[phone ringing]
1512
01:15:06,751 --> 01:15:09,879
I called the Metallica house,
and James answered the phone.
1513
01:15:10,338 --> 01:15:13,133
I was like, "We... [chuckles]
We're in trouble."
1514
01:15:13,425 --> 01:15:18,179
Had no clue that, you know, there's a...
There's another day after ours.
1515
01:15:18,471 --> 01:15:20,311
You know, another band
has to use your trailer.
1516
01:15:20,932 --> 01:15:23,309
You're going to have
to go over there and talk to Bill.
1517
01:15:23,601 --> 01:15:25,812
I was like... Oh, shit.
Like I'm being called in.
1518
01:15:26,104 --> 01:15:29,858
He sat me down and said, "Hey, I know
you're a rock and roll band at heart,
1519
01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:32,503
and, you know, breaking shit
and destroying things, you know,
1520
01:15:32,527 --> 01:15:33,838
it might be fun for a little bit."
1521
01:15:33,862 --> 01:15:35,822
What would you do if...
1522
01:15:36,114 --> 01:15:38,366
people came in your home
and behaved this way?
1523
01:15:38,658 --> 01:15:41,953
And James goes,
"Well, pretty much they do every weekend."
1524
01:15:42,245 --> 01:15:44,098
[James Hetfield] I didn't quite get what
he was trying to say.
1525
01:15:44,122 --> 01:15:47,709
And he said, "You guys are talented,
and you're on a path to destruction."
1526
01:15:48,001 --> 01:15:49,044
He knew.
1527
01:15:49,335 --> 01:15:53,965
He said, "I've had this same talk
with Sid Vicious and with Keith Moon,
1528
01:15:54,507 --> 01:15:56,342
and they didn't listen.
1529
01:15:58,762 --> 01:16:00,430
Maybe you'll listen, maybe not."
1530
01:16:00,847 --> 01:16:04,225
What really happened
was James totally manned up,
1531
01:16:04,976 --> 01:16:07,270
and Bill completely respected it.
1532
01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:10,315
[James Hetfield] So I said,
"You know, I'm young. I'm stupid.
1533
01:16:10,607 --> 01:16:13,151
And thanks for that.
1534
01:16:13,735 --> 01:16:15,904
I appreciate the talk,
and I'll do my best."
1535
01:16:16,196 --> 01:16:19,032
Years later he would go to me,
"How's James?"
1536
01:16:19,324 --> 01:16:21,951
I'm like... Well, I haven't really
talked to him lately,
1537
01:16:22,243 --> 01:16:23,243
but I'm sure he's fine.
1538
01:16:23,828 --> 01:16:27,248
To this day I still never
said thank you to him,
1539
01:16:27,582 --> 01:16:29,918
because it did enlighten me a little bit.
1540
01:16:30,210 --> 01:16:32,754
He made it right
to the best of his ability.
1541
01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:36,091
The next time we came to play
in the backstage area,
1542
01:16:36,382 --> 01:16:40,345
he put Visqueen, Clear plastic,
over everything.
1543
01:16:40,845 --> 01:16:44,849
The ceiling, the walls,
the floor, the table.
1544
01:16:45,141 --> 01:16:47,894
He even wrapped
bottles of beer in it, so...
1545
01:16:48,186 --> 01:16:50,522
[laughs] it would be protected.
1546
01:16:50,814 --> 01:16:54,526
[Brian Posehn] 1986 was
an ear-shattering year for thrash metal.
1547
01:16:54,818 --> 01:16:56,903
Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer,
1548
01:16:57,195 --> 01:17:00,532
followed by Anthrax,
all released landmark albums.
1549
01:17:01,032 --> 01:17:03,201
I was asking Lars where this was taken,
1550
01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:06,663
and he says,
"I'm pretty sure it was in Copenhagen."
1551
01:17:15,046 --> 01:17:20,218
He would wake up
and put on his little boxer shorts.
1552
01:17:20,510 --> 01:17:23,429
And he had a little amp
and his white guitar.
1553
01:17:23,721 --> 01:17:25,401
And it looked like a Gibson,
but it wasn't.
1554
01:17:25,557 --> 01:17:26,557
And he would play.
1555
01:17:28,601 --> 01:17:30,311
He could not wait to get on the road.
1556
01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:34,707
And Cliff was excited.
As much as he didn't want to go to Europe,
1557
01:17:34,816 --> 01:17:35,816
It was a short tour.
1558
01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:37,819
He wanted me to look at houses.
1559
01:17:38,111 --> 01:17:41,239
At this point we had really developed
and we were going to live together.
1560
01:17:41,906 --> 01:17:45,535
So he wanted me to look at houses
just around, in the East Bay.
1561
01:17:46,119 --> 01:17:48,496
[Brian Posehn] On September 26th, 1986,
1562
01:17:48,788 --> 01:17:51,249
Metallica played a show
in Stockholm, Sweden
1563
01:17:51,541 --> 01:17:53,459
supported by their friends, Anthrax.
1564
01:17:53,918 --> 01:17:56,087
Anthrax went on ahead to the next show.
1565
01:17:56,796 --> 01:17:58,131
Metallica never made it.
1566
01:17:58,798 --> 01:18:01,176
In the early hours of September 27th,
1567
01:18:01,467 --> 01:18:04,429
their tour bus crashed,
and Cliff Burton was killed.
1568
01:18:05,305 --> 01:18:07,015
He was 24 years old.
1569
01:18:08,349 --> 01:18:12,437
I went home and started calling Cliff
in Sweden at the hotel.
1570
01:18:12,729 --> 01:18:13,855
I had the itinerary.
1571
01:18:15,064 --> 01:18:16,608
Oh, no, they haven't checked in yet.
1572
01:18:16,900 --> 01:18:18,610
OK, that's weird.
1573
01:18:21,696 --> 01:18:23,239
Try again an hour later.
1574
01:18:25,742 --> 01:18:27,035
That's when she told me.
1575
01:18:27,327 --> 01:18:28,578
And I...
1576
01:18:29,162 --> 01:18:32,790
It just... It was... It wasn't even real.
It wasn't possible.
1577
01:18:33,082 --> 01:18:34,959
So I immediately called Cliff's parents.
1578
01:18:37,712 --> 01:18:39,714
I didn't want to be
with anyone else, you know,
1579
01:18:40,006 --> 01:18:44,052
wanted to be with his parents
and smell his things.
1580
01:18:46,012 --> 01:18:48,014
[Cliff] We don't sit back and... and say,
1581
01:18:48,306 --> 01:18:51,976
Oh, I hope we're big next year
or I hope this or hope that.
1582
01:18:52,268 --> 01:18:55,438
We just go and do it
and don't put a lot of thought into...
1583
01:18:56,272 --> 01:18:58,358
what might happen or what could happen.
1584
01:18:58,816 --> 01:19:00,944
We try not to think
too much about the future.
1585
01:19:04,489 --> 01:19:07,116
[James Hetfield]
Cliff was such a character,
1586
01:19:07,408 --> 01:19:10,078
and he was with us
for that short amount of time.
1587
01:19:11,371 --> 01:19:13,122
Thank God there were some people filming
1588
01:19:13,414 --> 01:19:15,458
and there were friends around
that had cameras.
1589
01:19:17,043 --> 01:19:19,128
To respect that time greatly.
1590
01:19:20,505 --> 01:19:23,299
I am so glad that he was in my life
1591
01:19:23,591 --> 01:19:26,010
and I got to share...
Share some times with him.
1592
01:19:26,594 --> 01:19:29,180
Someone so close and someone who...
1593
01:19:30,473 --> 01:19:32,392
I saw my future with.
1594
01:19:33,142 --> 01:19:35,270
And it was... it was awful.
1595
01:19:35,561 --> 01:19:36,688
It was just awful.
1596
01:19:36,980 --> 01:19:39,440
Most of us were so young
b-back then that we, uh...
1597
01:19:39,732 --> 01:19:41,401
we really hadn't dealt with death before.
1598
01:19:42,652 --> 01:19:45,780
[Tim Healy] The first thing I did,
I got up, and I headed out to the Vault,
1599
01:19:46,072 --> 01:19:47,952
because I was working
the next day at the store.
1600
01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:50,493
From the minute that we opened the door,
1601
01:19:50,785 --> 01:19:53,079
it was a constant flood
of people coming in.
1602
01:19:53,663 --> 01:19:56,165
It was the place where
people came to grieve.
1603
01:19:56,457 --> 01:20:00,169
It was the place were people came
to reflect and tell stories.
1604
01:20:00,628 --> 01:20:04,132
And it was almost
the perfect place to find out,
1605
01:20:04,424 --> 01:20:07,927
because it was home for all of the scene,
1606
01:20:08,219 --> 01:20:10,430
also for him and those guys.
1607
01:20:11,764 --> 01:20:17,437
What made us survive it was
that community of those... those thrashers.
1608
01:20:18,313 --> 01:20:22,734
[Erik Lannon] No one ever thought about
the perils of rock and roll
1609
01:20:23,026 --> 01:20:27,363
or the fact that tour buses crash
and, you know, people die out there
1610
01:20:27,655 --> 01:20:32,827
doing what we were all aspired to do,
and doing what he ultimately loved.
1611
01:20:33,995 --> 01:20:35,204
I know we felt bad,
1612
01:20:35,496 --> 01:20:38,666
but I could only imagine
what each one of them personally felt.
1613
01:20:39,542 --> 01:20:42,170
Yeah, it was a terrible time.
A terrible thing.
1614
01:20:44,172 --> 01:20:47,383
[Mustaine] What I know about Cliff
was that he was a very gentle soul,
1615
01:20:47,675 --> 01:20:50,762
and we laughed.
1616
01:20:51,137 --> 01:20:52,347
Man, we would laugh.
1617
01:20:52,972 --> 01:20:55,433
You can't ask more from your kids,
1618
01:20:55,975 --> 01:21:01,105
particularly when you...
You don't have to say much to them.
1619
01:21:01,397 --> 01:21:04,567
They, uh... Cliff would just decide...
1620
01:21:04,859 --> 01:21:07,528
He knew on his own
what was right and what was wrong,
1621
01:21:08,613 --> 01:21:10,073
and he...
1622
01:21:10,823 --> 01:21:14,243
practiced it
just like he'd practice his music.
1623
01:21:14,535 --> 01:21:15,535
[chuckles]
1624
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,669
People forget what you do this.
1625
01:21:23,961 --> 01:21:28,674
It's because think back to those days when
you guys were in a shitty rehearsal room.
1626
01:21:28,966 --> 01:21:31,761
Nothing else mattered
but just making something.
1627
01:21:32,053 --> 01:21:33,346
That's all you lived for.
1628
01:21:33,971 --> 01:21:36,451
80 Metal Allegiance,
we're just the guys from the neighborhood.
1629
01:21:36,557 --> 01:21:38,911
We're the friends that all shared
the same record collection.
1630
01:21:38,935 --> 01:21:40,269
It was just a great spirit.
1631
01:21:40,561 --> 01:21:43,356
And, uh, we... we said, you know,
maybe we should make a record.
1632
01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:44,792
[chuckles] Just to see what it sounds like
1633
01:21:44,816 --> 01:21:47,296
if all of us can actually
write and record some music together.
1634
01:21:52,490 --> 01:21:54,492
The marching orders
for that record, though,
1635
01:21:54,784 --> 01:21:56,303
is we're writing a thrash metal record.
1636
01:21:56,327 --> 01:21:58,538
Obviously Alex is involved in that scene.
1637
01:21:58,955 --> 01:22:00,123
We're getting Mark Osegueda,
1638
01:22:00,998 --> 01:22:02,792
Gary Holt, and Chuck Billy.
1639
01:22:03,084 --> 01:22:04,877
We're getting the Bay Area's best.
1640
01:22:05,169 --> 01:22:08,673
You would hope this happens everywhere,
1641
01:22:08,965 --> 01:22:10,734
but we're like,
you know, do you think it does?
1642
01:22:10,758 --> 01:22:12,844
Like, no, it's the Bay Area.
It's a special place,
1643
01:22:13,136 --> 01:22:15,972
and we've got some special people
that are backing each other.
1644
01:22:16,597 --> 01:22:20,184
♪ Staring me in my eyes
You can't kill the devil ♪
1645
01:22:20,476 --> 01:22:21,144
♪ No ♪
1646
01:22:21,436 --> 01:22:23,062
♪ Cause evil always lies ♪
1647
01:22:23,354 --> 01:22:25,773
♪ Strength, determination ♪
1648
01:22:26,065 --> 01:22:28,151
♪ Finding freedom in my children's soul ♪
1649
01:22:28,443 --> 01:22:30,486
♪ My time has come, my time is now ♪
1650
01:22:30,778 --> 01:22:33,030
♪ Justice served on fictitious vows ♪
1651
01:22:34,740 --> 01:22:35,740
♪ Kill ♪
1652
01:22:36,075 --> 01:22:37,075
♪ Kill ♪
1653
01:22:37,368 --> 01:22:38,368
♪ Kill ♪
1654
01:22:38,661 --> 01:22:39,661
♪ Kill ♪
1655
01:22:45,710 --> 01:22:47,938
Why don't we ever get to do
any jams with people, you know?
1656
01:22:47,962 --> 01:22:50,673
And I got approached,
I'm like... Absolutely, please.
1657
01:22:51,048 --> 01:22:53,759
♪ Pledging your allegiance
Look me in the face ♪
1658
01:22:54,051 --> 01:22:56,554
♪ Walking through flooded gates
Show your true disgrace ♪
1659
01:22:56,846 --> 01:22:59,307
♪ Flash a tearless smile
Going to great lengths ♪
1660
01:22:59,599 --> 01:23:02,435
♪ Covering that broken fear
I keep gaining strength ♪
1661
01:23:04,270 --> 01:23:07,607
♪ I keep gaining strength ♪
1662
01:23:07,940 --> 01:23:13,571
♪ Drowning in your fear ♪
1663
01:23:13,863 --> 01:23:15,990
♪ Say your pledge ♪
1664
01:23:16,699 --> 01:23:18,951
♪ Nothing you can do ♪
1665
01:23:19,327 --> 01:23:21,913
♪ Pledge your allegiance ♪
1666
01:23:22,413 --> 01:23:24,582
♪ Hiding is all you ♪
1667
01:23:24,916 --> 01:23:28,836
♪ Pledge of Allegiance, yeah ♪
1668
01:23:30,046 --> 01:23:31,297
[Brian Posehn] Since the 19805,
1669
01:23:31,589 --> 01:23:33,883
thrash metal music
that was nurtured in the Bay Area
1670
01:23:34,175 --> 01:23:35,801
extended its reach around the globe,
1671
01:23:36,093 --> 01:23:39,222
inspiring metal fans
everywhere to crank it up.
1672
01:23:43,392 --> 01:23:45,144
[fast-paced guitar riff playing]
1673
01:24:01,077 --> 01:24:02,077
[Brian Posehn] In 2013,
1674
01:24:02,203 --> 01:24:05,706
Gary Holt replaced the late, great
Jeff Hanneman in Slayer.
1675
01:24:05,998 --> 01:24:07,166
It's kind of weird, you know?
1676
01:24:07,458 --> 01:24:11,087
I got the call from Kerry
to help them out, you know.
1677
01:24:11,379 --> 01:24:14,298
People who don't know the background
between the two bands will ask me...
1678
01:24:14,590 --> 01:24:17,630
Wow, how's it feel to be playing with
such metal legends? They're my buddies.
1679
01:24:17,718 --> 01:24:21,973
I think metal fans are
the most devoted of any fans there are.
1680
01:24:22,265 --> 01:24:23,992
They're not fickle.
They like what they like,
1681
01:24:24,016 --> 01:24:26,769
and I think a Slayer fan
is that fan times ten.
1682
01:24:28,271 --> 01:24:29,748
[Tom Ara ya] To me it's about humility,
1683
01:24:29,772 --> 01:24:31,857
and I'm more humbled
by the fact that people
1684
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:34,110
have such an admiration for the band.
1685
01:24:34,402 --> 01:24:36,004
You hear stories
about some of these people
1686
01:24:36,028 --> 01:24:39,240
that, uh... your music made me strong
and held me together
1687
01:24:39,532 --> 01:24:41,367
to get past a certain point in my life.
1688
01:24:41,867 --> 01:24:43,119
I'm very grateful for that.
1689
01:24:44,829 --> 01:24:46,289
You're getting me all teary-eyed.
1690
01:24:46,581 --> 01:24:48,082
[laughs]
1691
01:24:55,089 --> 01:24:57,508
[Brian Posehn] In 2017,
Megadeth won the Grammy
1692
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,803
for best metal performance
for their album, Dystopia.
1693
01:25:01,095 --> 01:25:02,415
[Mustaine] One thing is for sure,
1694
01:25:02,597 --> 01:25:05,266
This community has a way
of taking care of its own.
1695
01:25:05,808 --> 01:25:08,936
I'm honored that the fans
still like what we're doing.
1696
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,647
It's great to hear. It feels good.
1697
01:25:12,690 --> 01:25:14,317
[speaking Spanish]
1698
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:21,616
Oh, my God!
1699
01:25:21,907 --> 01:25:23,117
[whooping]
1700
01:25:23,576 --> 01:25:25,494
- Like wrestlers.
- We're wrestlers.
1701
01:25:26,871 --> 01:25:29,957
[James Hetfield] When we put on our
instruments, we're like teenagers again.
1702
01:25:30,249 --> 01:25:32,460
We have a good time.
We joke around. We laugh.
1703
01:25:32,877 --> 01:25:35,129
Everything we do revolves around the jam.
1704
01:25:35,421 --> 01:25:37,089
There seems to be a certain energy
1705
01:25:37,381 --> 01:25:39,842
and magic that's
very pure about this music.
1706
01:25:41,886 --> 01:25:43,471
[Brian Posehn] In 2016,
1707
01:25:43,763 --> 01:25:46,265
Metallica released
Hardwired... to Self-Destruct
1708
01:25:46,557 --> 01:25:48,809
to massive critical
and commercial acclaim.
1709
01:25:49,518 --> 01:25:52,480
We are super grateful to
still be where we are, you know?
1710
01:25:52,772 --> 01:25:56,525
We're in Mexico City right here playing
in front of 60,000 to 70,000 people
1711
01:25:56,817 --> 01:25:57,817
in one show.
1712
01:25:58,235 --> 01:25:59,235
It blows my mind.
1713
01:25:59,904 --> 01:26:01,614
[crowd cheering, chanting]
1714
01:26:03,115 --> 01:26:06,155
[James Hetfield] It's pretty remarkable
for bands like Megadeth, and Anthrax,
1715
01:26:06,285 --> 01:26:09,747
and Slayer, and Exodus...
Still around and still playing gigs.
1716
01:26:10,247 --> 01:26:13,459
I tell you, whatever you think
is going to happen to you,
1717
01:26:13,751 --> 01:26:15,836
you have no fricking idea. You just don't.
1718
01:26:16,128 --> 01:26:19,632
If it wasn't for Cliff and wasn't for,
you know, those early Metallica records,
1719
01:26:19,924 --> 01:26:21,777
you know,
I would not be there, that's for sure,
1720
01:26:21,801 --> 01:26:23,361
and there would be no Metal Allegiance.
1721
01:26:24,136 --> 01:26:28,391
Cliff was a fun bass player,
and you can feel that onstage.
1722
01:26:28,683 --> 01:26:32,353
For me, I'm honored and blessed
to be able to play his bass lines
1723
01:26:32,645 --> 01:26:36,482
and celebrate him
and his bass playing to the world.
1724
01:26:36,774 --> 01:26:37,774
All over the world.
1725
01:26:38,025 --> 01:26:39,694
To take it there and share it.
1726
01:26:40,319 --> 01:26:42,071
[playing distorted bass riff]
1727
01:27:03,759 --> 01:27:07,513
If you and I were sitting in 1982,
1728
01:27:07,805 --> 01:27:10,975
having a conversation
about the East Bay days,
1729
01:27:11,267 --> 01:27:15,646
obviously nobody at that time
would ever slow down long enough
1730
01:27:15,938 --> 01:27:18,524
to believe that the music could have
1731
01:27:18,816 --> 01:27:22,319
and the scene could have that kind
of impact and that kind of longevity.
1732
01:27:22,862 --> 01:27:24,902
[Sven Soderlund]
There's a shirt that says, I think,
1733
01:27:25,072 --> 01:27:27,199
"Four Albums And Still No Ballad!"
1734
01:27:27,491 --> 01:27:29,845
And they meant that,
because they weren't about that, you know?
1735
01:27:29,869 --> 01:27:30,887
They weren't going to do it.
1736
01:27:30,911 --> 01:27:32,631
I love those guys.
They're still my friends.
1737
01:27:32,872 --> 01:27:34,206
They're like my brothers.
1738
01:27:37,001 --> 01:27:39,253
We didn't invent music.
We didn't invent metal.
1739
01:27:39,545 --> 01:27:40,796
We just took what we loved,
1740
01:27:41,505 --> 01:27:44,300
and, you know,
we stood on the backs of giants
1741
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,844
and put our own two cents in.
1742
01:27:47,136 --> 01:27:49,096
That's all we did,
and out came thrash metal.
1743
01:27:52,016 --> 01:27:57,897
It was a real happening that had
real far-reaching, uh, impacts
1744
01:27:59,064 --> 01:28:01,066
over music culture over time.
1745
01:28:04,904 --> 01:28:06,264
[Gary Holt] See, this wasn't here.
1746
01:28:06,405 --> 01:28:09,116
I'm wondering if the stage
was kind of where the bathroom was.
1747
01:28:09,950 --> 01:28:12,536
I think it was,
and this wall was... was exposed.
1748
01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:17,625
You know, we're talking, like, you know,
35 years ago and shit or more.
1749
01:28:17,917 --> 01:28:20,503
I'm surprised how nice the park looks.
It's pretty awesome.
1750
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,315
[Tom Hunting] We did a lot of cover tunes.
We did "Gets Your Rocks Off"
1751
01:28:23,339 --> 01:28:25,883
by Def Leppard and "Wasted"
by Def Leppard.
1752
01:28:26,175 --> 01:28:27,885
Half of the first Maiden album.
1753
01:28:28,177 --> 01:28:30,971
Our friend bought Iron Maiden I
just because of the cover.
1754
01:28:31,263 --> 01:28:34,517
It was so fresh and new back then that
a lot of people thought "Running Free"
1755
01:28:34,809 --> 01:28:36,449
was an Exodus original
for a little while.
1756
01:28:36,477 --> 01:28:39,021
We're like, no, sorry.
Can't take credit for that one.
1757
01:28:39,313 --> 01:28:42,024
Yeah, "Prowler."
Like, I love that song "Prowler."
1758
01:28:42,817 --> 01:28:43,817
That song rocks.
1759
01:28:44,026 --> 01:28:46,213
Kirk used to sing
"Another Piece of Me" by the Scorpions.
1760
01:28:46,237 --> 01:28:49,406
That was in my high school band room,
back when I still went to school.
1761
01:28:50,741 --> 01:28:54,245
[Kirk Hammett] It was a perfect storm
of all the people that we needed
1762
01:28:54,537 --> 01:28:58,415
to form a long-lasting musical scene
that went on to do great things,
1763
01:28:59,083 --> 01:29:02,670
and the amazing thing about it
is we were all young, innocent,
1764
01:29:02,962 --> 01:29:04,672
and didn't know what
the fuck we were doing
1765
01:29:04,964 --> 01:29:06,215
or where it all was going.
1766
01:29:06,507 --> 01:29:07,633
It just happened.
1767
01:29:08,676 --> 01:29:10,636
It was like... It was like from...
From heaven.
1768
01:29:12,388 --> 01:29:14,974
It was one of
the greatest times of my life.
1769
01:29:25,025 --> 01:29:26,986
You know, I was telling
somebody this morning
1770
01:29:27,278 --> 01:29:28,863
that I thought Metallica played here.
1771
01:29:29,154 --> 01:29:30,948
No, no. Kirk Hammett from Metallica,
1772
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,660
when he was a member of our band Exodus,
played here when we were 16 years old.
1773
01:29:34,952 --> 01:29:36,495
- No, you guys are Exodus?
- Yeah.
1774
01:29:36,787 --> 01:29:38,038
I've been a fan forever.
1775
01:29:38,330 --> 01:29:39,999
That is so awesome. You're back.
1776
01:29:40,291 --> 01:29:43,002
[Brian Posehn] Exodus continue to play
on around the world,
1777
01:29:43,294 --> 01:29:45,838
and still no fucking ballads!
1778
01:29:46,130 --> 01:29:49,633
["Heart and Soul" playing]
1779
01:29:49,925 --> 01:29:52,887
♪ All alone in the dead of night ♪
1780
01:29:53,178 --> 01:29:56,348
♪ My worst nightmare is coming true ♪
1781
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,853
♪ Soon they'll come for me
With one single kiss ♪
1782
01:30:01,145 --> 01:30:04,398
♪ I stand accused
You put me down ♪
1783
01:30:04,690 --> 01:30:08,235
♪ But I forgive this thorny crown ♪
1784
01:31:19,515 --> 01:31:22,226
♪ Pledge my heart and soul ♪
1785
01:31:23,185 --> 01:31:25,688
♪ Pledge my heart and soul ♪
1786
01:31:27,022 --> 01:31:29,692
♪ Pledge my heart and soul ♪
1787
01:31:30,943 --> 01:31:35,531
♪ Pledge my heart, my heart and soul ♪
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