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We're back! 3 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,040 And it has been a busy week! 4 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,640 Boeing's Starliner capsule returned home from space, 5 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,800 without its astronauts on board. 6 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,200 Hunter Biden pleaded guilty to tax charges. 7 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,000 And Venezuela's president, Nicolas Maduro, tried to stem protests 8 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,600 over what's widely seen as July's stolen election, 9 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,760 with this desperate announcement. 10 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,200 This year, in all of your honor as a thank you to all of you, 11 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,480 I'm declaring that Christmas is moving up to October 1st. 12 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Christmas starts October 1st for everyone. 13 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,160 Come on! You can't just throw up Christmas decorations in October 14 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,760 to distract from your shitty politics. You're not Hobby Lobby. 15 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Also, Christmas doesn't start when a president says it does. 16 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,560 As we all know, Christmas starts 17 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,800 when Mariah Carey pops out of her 11-month coma. 18 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Wait for her signal. 19 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,080 But we're gonna move on to the U.S. election, 20 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,640 which is entering its final months. 21 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,000 Several states have been running contests to pick 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,320 their "I voted" stickers, and just this week, 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Michigan unveiled nine winners, featuring some excellent choices. 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,640 Congratulations to Olivia from Holly High School. 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,480 She designed this colorful sticker that says, "Yay! I voted." 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,720 And we also want to show you this one. This one is crazy. 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,920 I love it, Jane from Brownell Middle School. 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,640 It's an American flag, and appears to be a wolf ripping off his shirt. 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,560 Just turnt up from voting. 30 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,840 Yes. Everything about that is perfect. 31 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,720 The line work, the kinetic energy of the shirt being ripped off, 32 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,760 the wolf's head thrown back in patriotic ecstasy 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,360 at the concept of democracy. 34 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,040 I know this is not the point, 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,800 but I would commit voter fraud to get multiples of that sticker. 36 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,200 And it's not just Michigan. Kentucky's winner 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,960 was this lovely drawing of a horse, but my favorite there 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,280 was actually this runner-up entry. 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,840 Third grader Cash Litzler won over the internet's humor 40 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:30,120 with his drawing that was less conventional than others. 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,680 But I'll let him explain the inspiration. 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,200 I didn't know what to draw. 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:41,240 So, I watched the Spider-Man movies like three days before it, 44 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,000 and I was just drawing. 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,560 And then Mom told me about the contest, and I wanted to enter it. 46 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:50,280 Mom tells me Cash's thinking was, "If Lizard Man can vote, you can too." 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,560 "If Lizard Man can vote, you can too." 48 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:55,360 That's actually a very powerful message. 49 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,600 'Cause at the end of the day, 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,040 lizard men in disguise don't secretly run the government, 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,000 they get one vote, just like you and me. 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,560 As for the presidential candidates, they're scheduled to debate 53 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:07,400 next Tuesday, and Trump continues to battle the fact 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,280 that he and JD Vance have been called weird, 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,440 a label that seems to genuinely bother him. 56 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,560 JD is not weird. He's a solid rock. 57 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,360 I happen to be a very solid rock. 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,640 We're other things, perhaps. But we're not weird. 59 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,080 But that is the weirdest possible way to address that accusation. 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,840 "He's a solid rock. I happen to be a very solid rock." 61 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:32,720 What are you talking about? 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,800 I'm not sure I'd describe any part of JD Vance as "rock solid". 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Unless, of course, he was in a West Elm showroom. 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,080 Though Trump is half right there! He and Vance are lots of things: 65 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,840 they're misogynists, narcissists, men who cum dead silent, 66 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,000 plausible "Masked Singer" contestants. 67 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,320 But they are also deeply weird. 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,080 And each day seems to bring new evidence of Vance failing 69 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,760 to connect with ordinary Americans, from being booed by firefighters, 70 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,800 whom he referred to as "haters", 71 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,640 to the viral clip of him utterly failing to make small talk 72 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,960 in a donut shop, with the low being this. 73 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,800 - We're gonna do two dozen. - Okay. 74 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Just a random assortment of stuff here. 75 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,280 How long have you worked here? 76 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,000 I've been here since the beginning of July. 77 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,960 - Of this year. - Okay. Good. How about you, sir? 78 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,680 Almost two years. 79 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,520 - Okay. Good. - You want everything? 80 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,880 Just everything, yeah. A lot of glazed here. Some sprinkle stuff. 81 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,400 Some of these cinnamon rolls. Just whatever makes sense. 82 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,200 How are you that bad at basic human interactions? 83 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:45,440 "Whatever makes sense?" If you don't know what donuts to order, 84 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,120 just say, "Surprise me!" It's fun. 85 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,400 It's annoying to every server who's ever lived, 86 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,840 but it's at least a human response. But "whatever makes sense"? 87 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,880 My freaky little bitch, you're in a donut shop. 88 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,200 Nothing makes sense there. Some have sprinkles, some are fritters, 89 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:03,160 some contain a jelly found in no other place on Earth. 90 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,920 You're eating cake for breakfast, it's total chaos, 91 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,960 but picking out a donut is something most of us figured out by age three. 92 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,560 And Trump clearly should've known about Vance's lack of charm, 93 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,920 because it's been on display for all to see, 94 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,240 from his many podcast appearances where he's said things like 95 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,480 women who don't have kids are choosing a "path to misery", 96 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,080 to the awkward moments like when he showed up to a picket line last year 97 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,320 and tried to turn a fist bump into a handshake, 98 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,440 and then offered his own fist bump and got left hanging. 99 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,800 That is just brutal to watch! 100 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,520 Just this week, a clip resurfaced of him during his Senate campaign 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,560 two years ago, flop-sweating through some shitty jokes 102 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,880 about Kamala Harris. 103 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,040 While we're on the topic of Joe Biden, 104 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,680 if he did not make it all the way through his four years, 105 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,360 he is likely to be replaced by Kamala Harris, 106 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,560 who I've heard called Cacklela Harris, 107 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,840 'cause she has this weird cackle, right? 108 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,360 I heard a joke about Kamala that I thought was pretty funny recently, 109 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,680 that Bill Clinton was watching her on TV and Bill thought, 110 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,080 "She's just so condescending. She's mean-spirited." 111 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,000 "She's kind of nasty. Maybe I should leave my wife and marry her instead." 112 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:22,040 Look, JD, comedian to comedian, never make the setup, 113 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,720 "I heard a joke that I thought was pretty funny recently," 114 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,680 but if you do, make sure that what you say next is funny, 115 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,960 and also an actual joke. 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,520 But Trump's supporters will insist this contest is about policy, 117 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,680 not personality. But on policy, they're even more toxic and weird. 118 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Just this week, both men addressed the high cost of childcare. 119 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:45,560 Vance suggested that "maybe grandma or grandpa wants to help out more", 120 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,920 and Trump got a very specific question about it at an economic forum. 121 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,000 And I'm gonna play his full two-minute answer here. 122 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,840 Because it is genuinely remarkable how long he takes to say so little. 123 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,760 Can you commit to prioritizing legislation 124 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,720 to make childcare affordable, and if so, 125 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,840 what specific piece of legislation would you advance? 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,360 Well, I would do that, and we're sitting down… 127 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,720 And I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, 128 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,400 and my daughter Ivanka was so impactful on that issue. 129 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:20,840 It's a very important issue. 130 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,680 But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about, 131 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,640 that, because, look, childcare is, childcare is. 132 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,560 There's something, you have to have it. 133 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,520 In this country, you have to have it. 134 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,720 But when you talk about those numbers compared 135 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,840 to the kind of numbers that I'm talking about by taxing foreign nations 136 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,280 at levels that they're not used to, but they'll get used to it very quickly, 137 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,840 and it's not gonna stop them from doing business with us, 138 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,440 but they'll have a very substantial tax 139 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,720 when they send product into our country. 140 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,360 Those numbers are so much bigger 141 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,760 than any numbers that we're talking about, including childcare, 142 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,600 that it's going to take care. We're gonna have… 143 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,200 I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, 144 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,120 coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste 145 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,720 and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, 146 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,440 because I have to stay with childcare. 147 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,680 I want to stay with childcare, 148 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,720 but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers 149 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,880 that I'm talking about, including growth, 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,080 but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just… 151 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,680 That I just told you about. 152 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,240 We're gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, 153 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,000 and as much as childcare is talked about as being expensive, 154 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,640 it's relatively speaking not very expensive 155 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,760 compared to the kind of numbers we'll be taking in. 156 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,480 We're gonna make this into an incredible country 157 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:42,480 that can afford to take care of its people, 158 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:44,480 and then we'll worry about the rest of the world. 159 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,120 Let's help other people. 160 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,320 But we're going to take care of our country first. 161 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,040 This is about America first. It's about "make America great again". 162 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,840 We have to do it, because right now, we're a failing nation. 163 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,520 So, we'll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. 164 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:01,440 What was that? 165 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,720 That applause isn't satisfaction with the answer, 166 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,960 it's relief that it's finally over. 167 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:11,280 That is the public-speaking equivalent of an audience faking an orgasm. 168 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,880 "You did it, you did it, you can stop now, please." 169 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,600 But look at his answer, this is the full text. 170 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:22,120 It's like ChatGPT having a mental breakdown. 171 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,040 A bunch of incoherent rambling about nonspecific implications 172 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,320 that tariffs will fix everything, which of course, they won't! 173 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,200 Look, the bad news is, for the next two months, 174 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,240 we're gonna be subjected to an excruciating amount of nonsense. 175 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,880 The good news is, come November, 176 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,760 there is a chance for America to reject that bullshit, 177 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,600 and possibly forever. 178 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,040 And if that happens, 179 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,200 it's hard to put into words how liberating that might feel. 180 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,200 But luckily, I know of one particular sticker 181 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,840 that really gets that feeling across pretty fucking well. 182 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,960 And now, this. 183 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,000 And Now: 184 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,840 HSN's Tony Little has something he wants you to know about him. 185 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,520 People also know I had a lot of challenges in my life. 186 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,400 So, I had knee problems. I had back problems. 187 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,480 I was hit by a school bus. 188 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:13,040 You even talked about it on air that you've had knee issues. 189 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,560 I had every issue. I was hit by a school bus. 190 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,920 I've always had back issues, from being hit by a school bus. 191 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,520 I've also had back problems, because I was hit by a school bus. 192 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,240 I wanted people to realize, you know, I was hit by a school bus. 193 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,520 I was hit by a school bus. A lot of people know my story. 194 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,360 I hit the only hill in Florida and hit a tree. 195 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,600 I was hit by a school bus. 196 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:32,400 I hit the only hill in Florida and hit a tree. 197 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,760 I hit the only hill in Florida and hit a tree. 198 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,680 Hit the only hill in Florida and hit a tree. 199 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,280 I hit the only hill in Florida on Halloween. 200 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,000 I hit the only hill in Florida and hit a tree. 201 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,080 And then I was hit by a lobster truck in Miami. 202 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,760 I was hit by a lobster truck. 203 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,760 I had to go on and get hit by a lobster truck. 204 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,200 - Listen, the lobster truck… - Got hit by a lobster truck. 205 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,760 But the main one was when I was hit with the school bus. 206 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,760 I was also hit by a school bus. 207 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,960 Hit the only hill in Florida and hit a tree. 208 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Hit by a lobster truck in Miami. I mean, that was just my life. 209 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:08,520 But anyway, forget that part of it. 210 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,640 Moving on. Our main story tonight concerns lunch. 211 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,080 The meal that you save for friends that aren't interesting enough 212 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,400 for dinner. 213 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,680 Specifically, we're gonna talk about school lunch, 214 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,800 which is, among other things, the inspiration for this bonkers PSA 215 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,240 from the 1980s. 216 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,000 I'm tired of candy! Tired of gum! 217 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,960 Tired of hunger, and food that's no fun! 218 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,640 I'm tired of pretending I don't like spaghetti, 219 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,000 but school lunch keeps me roarin' ready and rock steady. 220 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,280 Pizza, spaghetti, burgers! 221 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,400 With Chow Daddy in your school cafeteria, 222 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,000 it's the fun place to be for lunch. 223 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,960 Okay. Let's break that down. 224 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,840 Straight away, we open on a close-up of Chow Daddy, 225 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,480 whose very name makes him sound 226 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:02,080 like the undefeated pussy-eating champion of the world. 227 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,040 Then, he claims, "I'm tired of candy, tired of gum" 228 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,440 a bold choice if you're writing something kids need to relate to, 229 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,040 before continuing, "I'm tired of pretending I don't like spaghetti". 230 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,840 And, what? Who's forcing you to do that, CD? 231 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,480 He then throws in the moonwalk, 232 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:20,760 cementing the notion he's a public access Michael Jackson from "Thriller". 233 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,920 And ends by simply listing foods, ending with the concept of "desserts". 234 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,400 I don't know how that encouraged kids to eat school lunch, 235 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,240 but it's fascinating to watch, and one day, 236 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,200 I'm sure we'll find out how much weapons-grade cocaine it took 237 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,680 to come up with that ad. 238 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,480 The lunches Chow Daddy is referring to 239 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:38,800 come from the National School Lunch Program, 240 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,160 the federally assisted program that provides meals to schoolchildren. 241 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,280 It was launched in 1946, and since then, 242 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,880 has grown to become massive, 243 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,440 with over 90% of public schools participating in it. 244 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Last year alone, the program provided 4.6 billion lunches. 245 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Which is incredible! 246 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,440 But school lunches are also the subject of constant criticism from kids, 247 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,040 which shouldn't be surprising. 248 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,760 Kids are picky. Whole new foods are created to combat that. 249 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Gogurt only exists because some kid was like 250 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,400 "over my dead body will I eat yogurt with a spoon," 251 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,520 "I'd like it to come out of a plastic esophagus," 252 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,720 and the market complied. 253 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,320 But nevertheless, if you ask students for their opinions 254 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,920 on their school lunches, they will be brutally honest. 255 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,560 If you had to describe school lunch in one word, how would you describe it? 256 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,480 - I would say weird. - Rancid. 257 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:27,440 - Raw. - Unappetizing. 258 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,240 I don't like the taste or the texture. Food is always cold. 259 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,560 The portions are, like, small. 260 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,400 They gave us two chicken tenders. What am I gonna do with that? 261 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,640 I mean, to be fair, she is right about that. 262 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,960 The correct number of chicken tenders is not two. 263 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,920 That isn't the correct number for any food. 264 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,760 I want my chicken tenders in odd prime numbers. 265 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,520 Three is a snack, five is a meal, and seven is a cry for help. 266 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,160 But I'm not here tonight to shit on school lunches. 267 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Because the very fact they happen at all is remarkable. 268 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,880 School nutrition directors often say they run 269 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,920 the "biggest restaurant in town," 270 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,080 which doesn't seem like an overstatement 271 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,600 when you see this snapshot from a school in LA. 272 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:07,640 Usually, you start lunch around nine o'clock. 273 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,160 We have to cook everything in batches, because we don't have enough ovens. 274 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,240 And then so, from 10:00 to, I'd say, 11:30, 275 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,960 everybody's panicking the whole time. 276 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,920 So, we do the hamburgers first, we get those going, 277 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,840 we get the fries going, then we get pizza going, 278 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,920 get the chicken nuggets for the vegan menu today. 279 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,640 So, it's constantly batch, batch, batch. 280 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,360 We serve about, I'd say, 1,500 a day or more. 281 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,120 That includes breakfast, lunch, and supper. 282 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Okay, putting aside the cognitive dissonance of having chicken nuggets 283 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,920 be the vegan menu item of the day, that is really impressive. 284 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,160 If you had to do 1,500 of whatever your job is, even once, 285 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,320 you would snap. 286 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,400 If you were a vet and had to give one dog its ear medicine, fine. 287 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,040 10 dogs? That's a lot, but okay. 288 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,200 100? This is getting unreasonable. 289 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,240 But 1,500 dogs need ear medicine and some of them are vegan? 290 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,880 Just walk the fuck out and start a new life somewhere else. 291 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,560 Lunch programs are such a massive undertaking, 292 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,040 they've even been referred to as a "daily miracle". 293 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,560 And for many kids, school meals are actually their most reliable source 294 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,040 of nutrition. 295 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,480 Which is why it is so important the program work as well as it can, 296 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,520 for as many kids as it can. 297 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,760 Unfortunately, in too many places, that is just not the case. 298 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,280 So, given that, tonight, 299 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,200 with many schools around the country just starting back up again, 300 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,800 let's talk about school lunches. 301 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,720 And let's start with the quality of the food. 302 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Because those students weren't entirely off-base. 303 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,360 Not every meal served inside a school is perfect. 304 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,560 But that's often because school cafeterias are having to operate 305 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,080 under severe budget constraints. 306 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,160 School lunches are subsidized by the government, 307 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,600 which sets a ceiling on how much it'll pay for any given meal. 308 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,720 But that ceiling is set way too low. 309 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,000 One survey of school districts found that around two-thirds said 310 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,760 the funds they received were not sufficient to cover the costs 311 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,280 of producing lunch. 312 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,400 Which makes sense when you find out they only get around $4 per meal, 313 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,840 which has to cover everything from food costs 314 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,560 to equipment upgrades to staff salaries. 315 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,400 Just listen to this former head chef at Noma, 316 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,680 one of the top restaurants in the world, 317 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,880 who founded a company that places professional chefs in school kitchens, 318 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,640 explain what happens to that $4, and everything it has to go toward. 319 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,280 That's actually for maintenance, it's for paying people to make the food. 320 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,920 When it's all said and done, 321 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,720 you have about a dollar and a quarter for food. 322 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Making food, a meal, that kids really want to eat 323 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,560 for $1.25 is super challenging. 324 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,280 Yeah, of course, it is. 325 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,000 $1.25 doesn't cover the cost of food pretty much anywhere. 326 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,360 Even at Costco, the hot dog and soda combo is $1.50, 327 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,280 and that is only because the co-founder once said, and this is true 328 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,160 "If you raise the price of the fucking hot dog, I will kill you." 329 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,080 That is a real quote, from a true leader. 330 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,200 So, the budget alone is a real challenge. 331 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,760 As is the fact that it's important kids actually take the meals. 332 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Because the government only reimburses schools 333 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,800 for meals that students take. 334 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,800 Meaning, if kids don't like what's being served and ignore it, 335 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,400 the school doesn't get any money, and goes into the hole. 336 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,120 So, you need an appealing meal that comes in at rock-bottom prices. 337 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,920 That's a key reason why many schools opt to just heat and serve 338 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,920 pre-made meals. And that approach has opened them up to criticism. 339 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,480 Jamie Oliver, a man to whom I am surprisingly not related, 340 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,840 had a show in 2010 where he tried to make over the menus 341 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,680 in a West Virginia school, and he made a big show of being appalled 342 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,440 at what the children were being fed. 343 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:37,280 The freezer was just basically an Aladdin's cave of processed crap. 344 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,760 Okay, so this is pizza for tomorrow, yeah? 345 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,760 So, you have pizza for breakfast and then they have it for lunch? 346 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,840 Bloody hell. So, this meat is already cooked, yeah? 347 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Yeah, when it grows up it will be scrambled eggs. 348 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,120 - So, that is scrambled eggs? - It's egg. We steam it. 349 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,880 I didn't know what most of it was 350 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,320 and when I don't know what something is, the alarm bells go off. 351 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,880 Do you honestly think that we could do from raw state every day? 352 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Yes. 353 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,120 Okay. I have a lot of questions there, but I guess my first is, 354 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,880 I know I have a British accent, and my name is almost his name, 355 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,040 and I have a show where I essentially tell America 356 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:15,920 that it's doing everything wrong, but am I like that? 357 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,880 Please tell me that I'm not like that. 358 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Because while the dream of every single school cooking from scratch 359 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,600 is a lovely idea, it might not be feasible for a lot of school districts. 360 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,280 Not only are there the cost and labor issues, 361 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:32,480 but they also need to navigate strict nutritional guidelines. 362 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,800 The federal government sets standards for things 363 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,560 like the amount and types of fruits and vegetables required to be on a plate. 364 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,720 But it can be hard to meet them on a tight budget, 365 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,320 something famously illustrated during the Reagan era, 366 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,680 when his administration slashed the federal school lunch budget, 367 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,320 then briefly tried bending the nutritional guidelines 368 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,520 to a truly ridiculous extent. 369 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,200 Also getting attention today was that elementary school lunch 370 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,400 sampled by members of Congress yesterday. 371 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,960 The meal consisting of a small meat patty, 372 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,680 six French fries, a glass of milk, and ketchup, 373 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,400 classified as a vegetable, 374 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,200 was representative of new federal guidelines issued to save money 375 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,960 on subsidized school lunches. 376 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,320 Now, much has been made about the whole "ketchup as a vegetable" thing, 377 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,040 but I don't think people talked enough about the mystery meat patty 378 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,880 being served with a glass of milk. 379 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,720 That looks like a hamburger with a terminal illness. 380 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,160 It looks like the cracked soil of a Dust Bowl-era farm. 381 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,600 I read once that ultramarathon runners in Death Valley 382 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,280 would eat bananas, then throw them up, 383 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:34,680 and the banana vomit would bake in the sun 384 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,960 forming little patties on the ground, and I bet it looks like that. 385 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,520 The point is, ketchup isn't a vegetable, 386 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Reagan made things worse, 387 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,480 and I've been trying to offload that banana fact for the past five years. 388 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,760 And the thing is, even when, with good intentions, 389 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,960 we manage to raise the nutritional standards for lunches, 390 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,000 it can then be a real challenge to make them appetizing. 391 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,440 During the Obama administration, access to school lunches 392 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,800 was expanded greatly 393 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,800 thanks to the 2010 Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act, 394 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,080 which also updated guidelines to make meals more nutritious. 395 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,160 And while that act produced great results overall, 396 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,000 some students hated the new, healthier options, 397 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,680 sharing photos with the hashtag "thanks Michelle Obama." 398 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,600 Which, to their credit, is funny. 399 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,720 When the nutrition went high, the kids went low. 400 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,600 But it did take some trial, error, and flexibility 401 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,160 to make those new standards work. 402 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,120 For instance, the act required that breads had to be "whole grain-rich". 403 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,720 But as one food service director in New Mexico said, 404 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,320 "Many families in the Southwest will not accept whole-grain tortillas," 405 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,200 and, I quote, "We simply cannot afford to feed our trash cans". 406 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,480 Similarly, a school district in Mississippi tried to make 407 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,760 a 100% whole-grain biscuit, 408 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,000 which "was not received as well by students," 409 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,600 so the school is now allowed to operate on 80% of whole grains. 410 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,240 Which does feel like a good compromise. 411 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,120 Because a whole grain biscuit is not a biscuit. 412 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,840 At that point, let's just make ice cream sandwiches 413 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,920 where the cookies are celery and the ice cream is children's Motrin, 414 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,680 because it seems words don't matter anymore. 415 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,320 The fact is, school nutrition directors have to strike a delicate balance 416 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,640 between the perfect, and the achievable. 417 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,840 That former Noma chef you saw earlier gets incredibly frustrated 418 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,920 when talking about how chefs who work outside of school kitchens 419 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,160 tend to look down on some of the food that he makes now. 420 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,280 It's funny because we've had a lot of peers, 421 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:26,440 a lot of my peers have come and seen what we do 422 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,400 and they're disappointed by what we do. 423 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,360 Your colleagues are disappointed? 424 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,480 Yeah, in the sense that, "I thought this was going to be something else." 425 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,000 And I said, "I don't give a fuck what you think because it's not about you." 426 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,000 You know, if you have $1.25 to feed people 427 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,640 and that's your constraint and you're feeding kids 428 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,800 and you start to prioritize things like sustainability and locality 429 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,200 and seasonality, then you don't fucking understand how the world works. 430 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,600 You don't understand what food costs. 431 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,760 Yeah, he's right. I'm not sure why the decor of that stage 432 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,920 is "TED Talk in the jungle", but he is right. 433 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,880 It's all very well for Jamie Oliver to want schools to cook from scratch 434 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,800 with fresh ingredients all the time, 435 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,880 but it's a lot harder to be idealistic when you're slinging 436 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,360 1,000 portions of hot lunch to kids in a cramped kitchen, 437 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,360 all in 15 or 20 minutes. 438 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Reality is a hell of a sous chef. 439 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,040 But let's say that you could create lunches that were nutritious, 440 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,440 delicious, and affordable. 441 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,840 That still doesn't address the bigger problem with our school lunch program, 442 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,480 which is that, in many states, it is not feeding everyone who needs it. 443 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,760 And that is a huge problem, because as I mentioned, 444 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,000 for lots of kids, it might be their only guaranteed meal of the day, 445 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,040 as this cafeteria worker in Washington state explains. 446 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:41,120 Yeah, a lot of kids go home during the Christmas break, 447 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,840 they don't have food. 448 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,000 They don't have food, so they're so happy to come back to school. 449 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,320 Actually, the reason I became a lunch lady 450 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,200 is because I wanted to give the kids food that didn't get it at home, 451 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,480 like I didn't. 452 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,560 I was always happy to go to school, just because I get to eat. 453 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,160 We didn't have a lot of food, 454 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,360 and when you go to school, you know you're gonna eat. 455 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,520 That's worth going to school. 456 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,120 Her commitment to feeding kids is beautiful. And she is right! 457 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,440 Anything is more appealing if you know there's gonna be food there. 458 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,640 A work meeting, a wedding, even giving blood! 459 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,120 You think I'm doing that out of altruism? 460 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,360 Where else can a grown man drink apple juice and eat little cookie packs 461 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,560 free of judgment? 462 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Drain me, Nurse Gwen, drain me, but keep the Lorna Doones coming. 463 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,640 So, school lunch is a critical social good. 464 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,680 The problem is, in order to get a free or reduced-price lunch, 465 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,960 families have to fill out eligibility paperwork, 466 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,680 and that alone can be prohibitive. 467 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,600 There may be language barriers for some parents, 468 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,240 and for others, social stigma. 469 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,880 As one expert points out, 470 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,200 "Oftentimes these forms are on a brightly colored piece of paper. 471 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,440 "They say Free School Lunch Form." 472 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,640 And for parents, it can feel like the form is effectively saying, 473 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,720 "I can't afford to feed my child." 474 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,280 And they're having to ask their kid to hand that form to a teacher. 475 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:04,040 On top of that, the thresholds to qualify are often so low, 476 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,040 they exclude families who need it. 477 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,480 This year, a family of four earning around $40,000 a year or less 478 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,680 is eligible for free meals, and one earning around $58,000 or less 479 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,640 is eligible for reduced-price meals. 480 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,120 But if you make a penny more than that, your kids have to pay full price. 481 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,120 And that can quickly become a steep financial burden. 482 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,400 My son used to always tell me that he didn't eat 483 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,680 because he didn't want to make me have to pay for it. 484 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,760 She says she's always made just above the cutoff to qualify 485 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,960 for the federal free and reduced-price lunch program. 486 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,040 But her budget is still tight. 487 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,720 School lunch for her kids costs more than $250 a month. 488 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,880 With four kids in school, that adds up really quick. 489 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,200 Of course, it does. 490 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,320 Kids clearly should not be refraining from eating for financial reasons. 491 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,040 They should be refusing to eat for one of the multitudes of kid reasons, 492 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:54,920 such as, the food looks weird, 493 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,600 it's too hot outside, it's too cold outside, 494 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,280 or I saw a bird. 495 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,920 And kids whose families can't afford to pay can accumulate 496 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000 what's commonly called lunch debt, 497 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,280 and the cost to schools can be significant. 498 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:10,960 One sampling of just over 800 districts found that their total meal debt 499 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,440 exceeded $17 million last year. 500 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,960 Unfortunately, the solution some have hit on is to pressure families 501 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,840 for that debt, and sometimes children directly, 502 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,040 through a practice known as "lunch shaming". 503 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,760 You may have heard stories about how some schools have given kids 504 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,320 who owe money an alternative lunch, like a cold cheese sandwich. 505 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,880 While others require students do chores. 506 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,800 A report from last year found some schools in Kansas 507 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,120 wouldn't allow kids with unpaid debt to participate in activities 508 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,720 or would even withhold grades from parents until debt was paid. 509 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,440 And still other kids have been forced to wear wristbands, 510 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,080 or had their hands or arms stamped, to show they're behind in payment. 511 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,640 And incredibly, some tactics have been even worse than that. 512 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,240 Earlier this month, the Wyoming Valley West School District 513 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,600 in northeastern Pennsylvania sent letters to about 40 families, 514 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,080 telling them their children could be sent to foster care 515 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,400 if they didn't pay up. 516 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,680 The foster care issue… 517 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,120 I couldn't believe that that's what it said. 518 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,080 Four other Wyoming Valley West School board members agree, 519 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,080 as does school administrator Joe Muth. He signed that letter. 520 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,400 It could have been toned down. 521 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,680 I don't know how to describe other than, in writings, 522 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,440 we could have toned it down a notch. 523 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,440 Okay, "could have toned it down a notch" is putting it mildly. 524 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,560 That is something that guy should've realized before signing the letter. 525 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,800 Frankly, Clippy should've popped up and said, 526 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,520 "It looks like you're threatening to separate families and throw children" 527 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,400 "in foster care over a few hundred bucks of lunch debt." 528 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,040 "Are you sure you want to fucking do that?" 529 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,520 Lunch debt's become such a ubiquitous problem 530 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,080 that kids finding ways to pay it off is now a trope 531 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,720 of supposedly heartwarming human-interest stories like these. 532 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,920 A second grader is paying off the school lunch debt for everybody at his school 533 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,880 and kids in six other schools! 534 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,760 On Tuesday, fifth grader Daken Kramer giving the school district 535 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,480 a check for $7,300, 536 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560 money he raised to help pay for his classmates' school lunch debt. 537 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,920 Caitlin decided all of the money she raised would go towards paying off 538 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,680 the school lunch debt of 123 students in her San Diego school district. 539 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,160 How about that? Five years old, guys. 540 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,840 It's amazing when someone that young just knows to pay it forward. 541 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,760 I mean, it is amazing, but she shouldn't have to do it! 542 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Let a five-year-old spend that money on five-year-old shit, 543 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,440 like a slinky, or Play-Doh, or Fingerlings. 544 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,120 Little creatures for your fingers. Monkeys, unicorns, 545 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,480 this cunty little bird. They're adorable. 546 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,720 And they make you feel alive. And the reason I know that is, 547 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200 I actually have one on right now! 548 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,560 But even this isn't managing to cheer me up! 549 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,440 You've failed me, you little fucker! 550 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,480 It's frankly no wonder that, when you combine the stigma of receiving 551 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,960 a free or reduced-price lunch, and the risk of racking up debt, 552 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,480 even kids who are eligible can end up choosing not to participate. 553 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,520 In fact, in 2019, nearly 30 million students were eligible for the meals, 554 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,040 but only 22 million received them. 555 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,760 Meaning over seven million eligible students missed out on meals, 556 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,920 with experts arguing that stigma played a big role in that. 557 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,360 Which is terrible! And at this point, I actually have some good news. 558 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,080 Because there is a way to solve a lot of the problems that I've shown you. 559 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,840 It's a policy known as Universal Free Meals. 560 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,880 Basically, every kid at every school can have breakfast or lunch, 561 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,320 at school, if they want it. 562 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,880 And while I know that might sound like a utopian dream, 563 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040 the thing is, we actually already did it, for two years, 564 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,360 during the pandemic. 565 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,960 Federal lawmakers introduced a waiver program that paid 566 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,440 for free breakfasts and lunches for every public school kid 567 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,160 in the country, regardless of family income. 568 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,400 The waivers also increased the reimbursement rate for each meal 569 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,880 by around 20%. 570 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Meaning schools had more money to spend on making and serving meals. 571 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,760 And early research suggests that had real benefits. 572 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,240 A survey of school districts representing over five million students 573 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,960 found that, in 2021, average daily participation in lunch 574 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,640 increased by approximately 1.4 million, 575 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,960 with 95% of districts reporting it reduced child hunger, 576 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,600 and 82% reporting the program supported academic achievement. 577 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,360 In short, way more kids were eating every day, 578 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,840 and it was helping them in school. 579 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,800 The waiver program worked. But in June of 2022, it expired. 580 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,880 And unfortunately, some lawmakers were completely fine with that. 581 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,200 By returning these programs back to normal, 582 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,840 we can uphold our responsibility to taxpayers 583 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,640 and the principle that aid should be targeted and temporary. 584 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,000 Wow, that is heartless. 585 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,920 "Aid should be targeted and temporary" sounds like something 586 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000 a Reagan action figure would say when you pull its string, 587 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,080 along with "take that, welfare queen!" 588 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,120 and "Jodie Foster sure would be impressed if I died!" 589 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,840 And when the cutoff came, teachers who saw the program roll back firsthand 590 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920 can tell you, it was rough. 591 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,040 On the first day of school this year, 592 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,560 I announced to my students that school lunches were no longer free. 593 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,000 And this moment stays with me. 594 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,400 The confusion, the darting eyes, the questions. 595 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,440 There were students who realized in that moment 596 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,000 that they were not going to eat that day. 597 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,080 For fucks sake, no teacher should have to do that, especially that one, 598 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,880 who clearly cares about her students. 599 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,760 I know the fun teacher when I see one, 600 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,240 and that is the fun teacher right there. 601 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Bright color-blocked outfit, fun glasses, purple hair. 602 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,520 There is a class of misfit seventh graders 603 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,080 for whom she is their absolute queen. 604 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,800 If you get assigned to Ms. Jung's class, you are making dioramas, 605 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,280 you're doing nonstop skits, 606 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,080 and you're building the sickest plastic bottle hydroponic garden system 607 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,200 in the entire school. 608 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,840 Ms. Jung's got passes to the science museum of Minnesota, 609 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,720 and if you go with her, you're touching a dinosaur bone. 610 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,720 For many families, the program expiring meant they had to navigate 611 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,160 the eligibility forms for the first time. 612 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,360 One school nutrition director in Ohio said she had to deny one single mother 613 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,000 who told her she'd missed the cutoff for reduced meals 614 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,880 by just $100 of gross income. 615 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,000 And all this resulted in a lot fewer kids getting lunches. 616 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,240 And students from low-income families across the country 617 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,720 are now accruing school lunch debt in record numbers. 618 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,640 Now, to their credit, some states have refused to go backward, 619 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,880 and these eight have passed Universal Free Meal programs, 620 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,640 often funding them out of state budgets, 621 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,520 though passing those laws wasn't always easy. 622 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,640 In Minnesota, for instance, you've probably seen the joyous photo 623 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,240 of Tim Walz being hugged by school kids when he signed 624 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,080 his state's program into law. 625 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,280 But some Republican lawmakers there fiercely opposed it, 626 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,840 offering some less-than convincing arguments. 627 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,680 Mr. President, I have yet to meet a person in Minnesota 628 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,600 that is hungry, yet today. 629 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,480 I have yet to meet a person in Minnesota that says 630 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,720 they don't have access to enough food to eat. 631 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,280 Now, I should say that hunger is a relative term, Mr. President. 632 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,880 I had a cereal bar for breakfast. I guess I'm hungry now. 633 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,200 What an asshole! First, I don't care what you had for breakfast. 634 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,400 And second, that's not how societal problems work. 635 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,320 You can't go, "I haven't seen hungry people, so they must not exist." 636 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,520 Before seeing this clip, 637 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,880 I'd never seen Chris Parnell's evil midwestern twin, 638 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,160 but that didn't mean you weren't out there, sucking. 639 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,000 And he wasn't the only opponent. 640 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,000 This state rep suggested that the state expand the program, 641 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,800 but stopped short of making it universal, 642 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,880 using herself as an example of why that'd be going too far. 643 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,280 We are using taxpayer dollars to feed my children. 644 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,000 I have two kids in public schools at the North Branch High School right now. 645 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,480 That means that the taxpayers are subsidizing me 646 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,160 to the tune of $1,376. 647 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:06,800 Tonight you are giving me a $1,376 tax break. 648 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,080 Me. That's my benefit from this bill. 649 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,520 Okay! You're welcome? 650 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,600 Or maybe I'm sorry that happened to you. I don't really know what to say. 651 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,720 You're saying a good thing, but you seem very upset about it. 652 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,560 But a few things about that. 653 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,080 I know capping eligibility might sound like it makes sense, 654 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,200 and the state actually looked into doing that, but decided against it, 655 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,640 as it turns out, it would've "increased the administrative complexity," 656 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,040 and the increased cost would've eaten into whatever savings. 657 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,400 Also, crucially, by making lunch accessible to all kids, 658 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,360 they could remove the stigma for those whose family can't afford it. 659 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,120 Which is more important than you might realize. 660 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,920 A study in Massachusetts found that 42% of families with children eligible 661 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,880 for free or reduced-price meals, 662 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,080 reported their child would be less likely to eat a school meal 663 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,520 if it wasn't free for all children. 664 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400 Which does make sense. Kids are perceptive. 665 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,600 They notice who isn't taking a lunch or is forced to eat 666 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,800 a cold cheese sandwich, 667 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,160 and they definitely notice whose hand got fucking stamped. 668 00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:14,440 And look, I'm not saying that there aren't complications here. 669 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,640 Of course, there are. And deep down, you already knew that. 670 00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:20,480 After all, you're watching "It's Always Something with White Urkel." 671 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,880 Making that many meals, consistently, is difficult. 672 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,280 Remember, we're talking about the "biggest restaurants in town". 673 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,000 And there are a lot of moving parts here, 674 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,640 from the sheer scale of the program, 675 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:34,600 to sourcing food and making it taste good, 676 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,440 to adequately training and paying cafeteria staff. 677 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,600 All of which means Universal Free Meals aren't cheap. 678 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,200 In Minnesota, they budgeted it at $400 million over its first two years, 679 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,520 but it's projected to cost about $80 million more than that. 680 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,440 Though, part of the reason for that increased cost 681 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,400 is higher-than-expected participation in the program, 682 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,040 which is obviously a good thing! 683 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,840 Because, for the final time, the benefits here are clear, 684 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,280 as the head of Minnesota's Department of Education spelled out. 685 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,200 Our educators that I've met and that we've talked to this entire fall 686 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,920 consistently tell me that their students are more attentive 687 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,680 and they're ready to learn. 688 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,720 And they directly attribute this to the availability of nutritious meals 689 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,280 all across the state of Minnesota and throughout the day. 690 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,080 Yeah, that is thousands of kids who aren't going to class feeling hungry, 691 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,520 shamed, or excluded. 692 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,720 That should be the standard in all 50 states. 693 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,640 And if it helps, maybe we should be considering lunch 694 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,880 as an essential school supply, like books or desks. 695 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,280 We accept that they're subsidized by the government 696 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,400 as an investment in kids' futures. 697 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,760 And I'd argue lunch should be, too, 698 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,640 and that the way to achieve that shouldn't be 699 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,280 by asking each state to fund it out of their own budget, 700 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,560 but by passing legislation at the federal level, 701 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,880 similar to what we did in the early days of the pandemic. 702 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,720 Because while that was a truly terrible time, 703 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,920 it's worth also remembering that we got some major stuff done back then, too. 704 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,600 We socially distanced, we watched "Tiger King". 705 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,800 we got our families familiar with Zoom in a way 706 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,920 that we're all still paying the price for, 707 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,760 and it turns out, we fed kids. 708 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680 In speaking to experts for this story, many said that before 2020, 709 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,040 they thought Universal Free Meals would be incredibly beneficial, 710 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,120 and it would also never happen. 711 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,480 America just doesn't do that sort of thing. 712 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,400 But then it did happen, and seemingly overnight. 713 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,720 And in this one particular area, Americans got to experience 714 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,120 what it was like to have the federal government be responsive 715 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,720 to the needs of the vulnerable. 716 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,600 And once you see what it looks like to help kids, 717 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,920 you kind of can't unring that bell. 718 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,480 In fact, you should keep ringing it so fucking hard, 719 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,680 the rope comes off in your hands. 720 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,920 'Cause we have the power to ensure 721 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,480 that no kid in the country is hungry when school gets dismissed. 722 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,040 And we should be exercising that power, 723 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,040 and making sure that all kids are, 724 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,120 in the words of America's second favorite moonwalking werewolf 725 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,120 of the '80s, roarin' ready and rock steady, 726 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,720 with pizza, burgers, and of course, desserts. 727 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,760 And now, this. 728 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,680 And Now: People on TV Debate When to Decorate for Halloween. 729 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,040 I already saw Halloween decorations out on people's porches. 730 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,680 I'll be honest with you, I may be decorating by Sunday or Monday. 731 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,000 Just do it now! 732 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,680 Leave the studio and purchase an oversize skeleton 733 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,840 from Home Depot this second! 734 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,680 So, I know Zach was saying something about decorating for Halloween. 735 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,280 Is it too early? I would say no. 736 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,360 Never too early. 737 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,520 Correct! It's never too early to prepare for the eve of wraiths 738 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,120 and ghouls and the minions from the animated motion picture "Minions". 739 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,680 I've got at least two neighbors 740 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,320 who have already put up all of their Halloween decorations. 741 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,840 That's impressive. I'm going to make my husband wait 'til October. 742 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,800 That's, I think, a reasonable time. 743 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,440 Wrong! It is not reasonable! 744 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,040 Let your beleaguered husband cover your windows 745 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,480 with fake cobwebs right now or I will call the police! 746 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,760 Is it too early to decorate for Halloween? 747 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,240 - Yes. - No! 748 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,840 Noah and I were out and about early in the morning, 749 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,440 and there was a couple outside already putting up their giant skeleton. 750 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:18,080 That's two months early. Right? That would be this past weekend. 751 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:24,120 So, that would be equivalent to, October 25th, seeing Christmas decor. 752 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,000 Shut up! What the fuck is this, math class? 753 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,760 Just do the fucking forecast, Brad! 754 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,160 I saw a thing that said if you decorate for Halloween earlier, 755 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:35,720 you're a happier person, so if it makes you happy, do it. 756 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,080 I bought a couple pillows. I'm not gonna lie. 757 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,200 We had a list of scary movies that we put together last night to watch. 758 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,840 Yes! Why not? Honestly, these ladies seem super chill! 759 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,640 And I would totally watch scary movies with them! 760 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,960 That's our show, thanks so much for watching! 761 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,360 We're off next week for the Emmys, we'll be back on the 22nd. 762 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,000 See you then, good night! 68845

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