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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:49,066 --> 00:00:50,609 Do you think it's an accident? 2 00:00:50,693 --> 00:00:52,820 Who would wanna Kill Princess Di? 3 00:00:52,945 --> 00:00:55,072 She's so young and so beautiful. 4 00:00:58,659 --> 00:01:00,369 I'm going to sleep. 5 00:01:13,173 --> 00:01:15,843 Joanie, don't forget to feed kitty. 6 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,971 (POP MUSIC PLAYING) 7 00:01:19,054 --> 00:01:20,597 Kitty, kitty. 8 00:01:25,894 --> 00:01:28,856 ♫ You're not being true to me 9 00:01:28,939 --> 00:01:33,944 ♫ Deep within my soul, I feel 10 00:01:36,113 --> 00:01:37,906 Turn the music down! 11 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,993 3 Sometimes I wish I could 12 00:01:41,076 --> 00:01:42,036 (SHOWER RUNNING) 13 00:01:42,119 --> 00:01:44,788 & Turn back time 14 00:01:44,872 --> 00:01:48,208 ♫ Impossible as it may seem 15 00:01:48,292 --> 00:01:49,501 ♫ But I wish I could 16 00:01:49,585 --> 00:01:53,047 Kitty, kitty, dinner's ready. 17 00:01:55,299 --> 00:01:56,508 Kitty. 18 00:01:57,134 --> 00:02:00,763 ♫ Quit playing games with my heart 19 00:02:06,727 --> 00:02:10,773 ♫ I should've known from the start 20 00:02:12,524 --> 00:02:14,902 Kitty, kitty, dinner's ready. 21 00:02:14,985 --> 00:02:15,986 (DOOR CLOSING) 22 00:02:16,820 --> 00:02:18,781 Kitty, dinner's ready. 23 00:03:22,094 --> 00:03:24,346 (MOANING) 24 00:03:29,393 --> 00:03:30,602 (GROANS) 25 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:39,361 (BREATHING HEAVILY) 26 00:03:56,628 --> 00:04:00,257 (MEOWING) 27 00:04:06,805 --> 00:04:09,349 Why didn't you feed the cat already? 28 00:04:22,905 --> 00:04:24,239 Feel good? 29 00:04:30,871 --> 00:04:32,748 (CAT MEOWING) 30 00:04:46,553 --> 00:04:48,597 MAN: Hey, shut that damn cat up! 31 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,599 (SCREAMING) 32 00:04:58,649 --> 00:05:00,275 (CAMERA CLICKING) 33 00:05:02,152 --> 00:05:03,820 DETECTIVE: What is your name? 34 00:05:05,822 --> 00:05:08,283 Janie Cates. 35 00:05:08,825 --> 00:05:10,369 (CAMERA CONTINUES CLICKING) 36 00:05:10,452 --> 00:05:12,829 And the deceased was your sister? 37 00:05:13,622 --> 00:05:15,374 Her name is Joanie. 38 00:05:16,166 --> 00:05:17,584 We're twins. 39 00:05:20,796 --> 00:05:23,257 Were you able to see who did this? 40 00:05:23,799 --> 00:05:25,300 Just a glimpse. 41 00:05:26,969 --> 00:05:28,053 (SNIFFLES) 42 00:05:28,136 --> 00:05:29,638 It was dark. 43 00:05:31,431 --> 00:05:33,058 I'm not certain. 44 00:05:38,897 --> 00:05:40,857 PROSECUTOR: In your professional opinion, Dr. Gramm, 45 00:05:40,941 --> 00:05:42,985 as a forensic psychiatrist, 46 00:05:43,068 --> 00:05:47,823 will Jon Forster, if allowed to go free, rape and murder again? 47 00:05:47,948 --> 00:05:49,825 JACK: I believe... DEFENCE ATTORNEY: I object, Your Honour. 48 00:05:49,908 --> 00:05:52,411 It's speculative in nature. 49 00:05:52,494 --> 00:05:55,581 Dr. Gramm is the prosecutor's hired gun, 50 00:05:55,664 --> 00:05:58,625 the forensic psychiatrist of the year, so to speak, 51 00:05:58,709 --> 00:06:03,088 who pontificates like the Oracle of Delphi on hypotheses 52 00:06:03,171 --> 00:06:05,716 as if they are stone cold facts. 53 00:06:05,799 --> 00:06:07,843 JUDGE: Objection overruled. 54 00:06:07,926 --> 00:06:10,637 Dr. Gramm, you may answer the question. 55 00:06:12,598 --> 00:06:13,599 I believe... 56 00:06:13,682 --> 00:06:16,602 I object, Your honour, on the grounds that the witness has put forth 57 00:06:16,685 --> 00:06:21,106 a hypothetical depiction of the Joanie Cates crime scene that is pure fantasy 58 00:06:21,189 --> 00:06:25,277 filled with convenience and wrapped in a perfectly symmetrical bow. 59 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,696 Have you finished, Miss Bennett? 60 00:06:28,238 --> 00:06:32,117 My client grieves for the victim of this heinous crime, 61 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,121 and fears that more women will be killed as the real murderer remains free, 62 00:06:36,204 --> 00:06:38,165 cackling at the folly of these proceedings. 63 00:06:38,248 --> 00:06:39,625 I think you are finished. 64 00:06:39,708 --> 00:06:42,961 Yes, you are finished, Miss Bennett, and overruled. 65 00:06:43,837 --> 00:06:47,799 And now, Dr. Gramm, you may actually answer the question. 66 00:06:49,009 --> 00:06:51,386 And what is the question, Your honour? I've forgotten. 67 00:06:51,470 --> 00:06:52,471 (JURY CHUCKLES) 68 00:06:52,554 --> 00:06:54,765 I know the question. I'm sorry. 69 00:06:55,432 --> 00:06:57,059 I know the answer, too. 70 00:07:02,064 --> 00:07:05,359 In my professional opinion as a forensic psychiatrist, 71 00:07:05,442 --> 00:07:09,279 Jon Forster is a serial murderer and a rapist, 72 00:07:09,363 --> 00:07:14,034 who if allowed to go free will rape and murder again. 73 00:07:14,660 --> 00:07:17,204 PROSECUTOR: Thank you, Doctor. Nothing further. 74 00:07:17,287 --> 00:07:20,248 FOREMAN: We, the jury, find the defendant, Jon Forster, 75 00:07:20,332 --> 00:07:24,586 guilty of murder in the first degree, with special circumstances. 76 00:07:26,129 --> 00:07:27,756 JUDGE: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 77 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,217 you are released with the state's gratitude. 78 00:07:31,093 --> 00:07:34,012 The defendant will be remanded to the custody of the state, 79 00:07:34,096 --> 00:07:36,598 pending the determination of his sentence. 80 00:07:37,265 --> 00:07:38,433 (WHISPERING) Tick-tock, Doc. 81 00:07:38,517 --> 00:07:40,394 JUDGE: Thank you very much for your service. 82 00:07:40,477 --> 00:07:41,645 Tick-tock. 83 00:07:41,728 --> 00:07:42,813 (GAVEL KNOCKS) 84 00:08:15,345 --> 00:08:17,556 (HIP HOP MUSIC STARTS PLAYING SUDDENLY) 85 00:08:30,152 --> 00:08:31,403 (MUSIC STOPS) 86 00:08:31,653 --> 00:08:33,113 (MOTOR WHIRRING) 87 00:08:46,334 --> 00:08:47,794 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 88 00:08:48,336 --> 00:08:49,671 Excuse me. 89 00:08:50,839 --> 00:08:51,840 Yeah? 90 00:08:51,923 --> 00:08:53,717 SHELLY: Hey, Jack. Shelly. 91 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,135 I've been calling you all morning. You okay? 92 00:08:55,218 --> 00:08:56,595 JACK: No, I'm okay. What's up? 93 00:08:56,678 --> 00:08:58,013 I was worried. 94 00:08:58,096 --> 00:09:00,891 You worry too much, Shelly. What's going on? 95 00:09:00,974 --> 00:09:03,435 Frank Parks has been calling. He needs to speak to you immediately. 96 00:09:03,518 --> 00:09:05,312 Well, you patch him through. 97 00:09:05,395 --> 00:09:06,396 (PHONE BEEPS) 98 00:09:07,397 --> 00:09:09,858 I had fun last night, Miss Pollard. 99 00:09:10,817 --> 00:09:14,863 Me, too. Thanks for the wine-tasting lesson, Dr. Gramm. 100 00:09:15,363 --> 00:09:16,698 Jack. 101 00:09:16,782 --> 00:09:18,033 (MOUTHING) Jack. 102 00:09:18,116 --> 00:09:20,494 SHELLY: Hey, Jack. I got Frank Parks. Go ahead. 103 00:09:20,577 --> 00:09:21,953 Hey, Frank. 104 00:09:22,037 --> 00:09:23,455 Jack. 105 00:09:23,872 --> 00:09:25,624 Yeah, we got another one. 106 00:09:25,707 --> 00:09:27,542 Oh, no, the same? 107 00:09:27,626 --> 00:09:28,835 FRANK: Every detail. 108 00:09:29,419 --> 00:09:32,172 Right down to the lateral lacerations. 109 00:09:32,255 --> 00:09:35,050 Halothane, carabiners, ropes, the works. 110 00:09:35,801 --> 00:09:37,344 It's the Seattle Slayer again. 111 00:09:37,427 --> 00:09:38,428 JACK: Where are you now? 112 00:09:38,512 --> 00:09:40,889 Look, Jack. There's a tape. 113 00:09:41,890 --> 00:09:43,391 You're gonna wanna see it. 114 00:09:44,935 --> 00:09:46,812 Jack? You still there? 115 00:09:48,730 --> 00:09:49,898 Yeah. 116 00:09:55,070 --> 00:09:56,822 Meet me at my office, okay? 117 00:09:56,905 --> 00:09:58,240 Sure, Jack. 118 00:10:20,971 --> 00:10:22,180 Where to? 119 00:10:22,264 --> 00:10:25,141 114 Weston, please. Quickly. 120 00:10:31,982 --> 00:10:33,483 MAN OVER RADIO: Welcome back, Seattle. 121 00:10:33,567 --> 00:10:36,862 We're continuing our interview with Jon Forster, 122 00:10:36,945 --> 00:10:40,240 who was convicted of the murder of Joanie Cates, nine years ago, 123 00:10:40,323 --> 00:10:44,828 based on the eyewitness testimony of her twin sister, Janie Catles. 124 00:10:44,911 --> 00:10:48,039 Jon Forster is slated to die at midnight, at Walla Walla Penitentiary. 125 00:10:48,123 --> 00:10:49,875 Do you mind changing that station, please? 126 00:10:49,958 --> 00:10:52,460 Mr. Forster, what is your reaction to the state... 127 00:10:53,336 --> 00:10:54,504 (HIP HOP MUSIC PLAYING) 128 00:10:54,588 --> 00:10:55,922 Thank you. 129 00:11:10,061 --> 00:11:11,104 FBI get here yet? 130 00:11:11,187 --> 00:11:12,564 Yeah, two minutes in the conference room. 131 00:11:12,647 --> 00:11:14,190 Okay. 132 00:11:14,274 --> 00:11:15,901 Any calls? 133 00:11:15,984 --> 00:11:18,236 New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Time, Newsweek. 134 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,615 They all wanna know if you have a quote about Forster's pending execution. 135 00:11:21,698 --> 00:11:22,824 Oh, no comment. 136 00:11:25,660 --> 00:11:28,163 SHELLY: Janie Cates came by to give you a present. 137 00:11:29,122 --> 00:11:30,415 Dr. Gramm. 138 00:11:30,498 --> 00:11:34,544 I'm sorry. I don't know if this is appropriate. I just wanted to... 139 00:11:34,628 --> 00:11:37,255 I just wanted to mark the day. 140 00:11:37,339 --> 00:11:38,465 Thank you, Janie. 141 00:11:38,548 --> 00:11:42,677 I'm glad that my sister Joanie hasn't been forgotten. Thank you. 142 00:11:43,178 --> 00:11:44,429 For everything. You just... 143 00:11:44,512 --> 00:11:46,389 You went out of your way and I... 144 00:11:47,849 --> 00:11:50,435 You're busy, so I'm just gonna get out of here. 145 00:11:50,518 --> 00:11:53,813 (WHISPERS) Janie. We did good, Janie. We did good. 146 00:11:53,897 --> 00:11:55,315 All right. 147 00:11:55,398 --> 00:11:56,608 Thanks. 148 00:12:01,071 --> 00:12:02,614 Can I help you? 149 00:12:02,697 --> 00:12:04,324 You're one of my students? 150 00:12:04,407 --> 00:12:05,450 Hi. 151 00:12:06,534 --> 00:12:07,744 FRANK: Jack. Yeah. 152 00:12:07,827 --> 00:12:09,955 I'd like to introduce you to Jeremy Guber, 153 00:12:10,038 --> 00:12:12,082 with the Attorney General's office. 154 00:12:12,165 --> 00:12:14,960 Jeremy is in charge of the Seattle Slayer task force. 155 00:12:15,043 --> 00:12:16,962 Dr. Gramm, it is so good to meet you. 156 00:12:17,045 --> 00:12:18,922 This is a really big honour for me. It is. 157 00:12:19,005 --> 00:12:20,215 Sorry about the... 158 00:12:20,298 --> 00:12:22,509 No, this is such a beautiful conference room, too. 159 00:12:22,592 --> 00:12:24,928 FRANK: And this special agent Mactire from the FBI. 160 00:12:25,011 --> 00:12:26,596 Dr. Gramm. 161 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:28,556 Pleasure. Have a seat. 162 00:12:30,684 --> 00:12:32,227 Hey, big fellow. 163 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:33,395 Ace. 164 00:12:34,896 --> 00:12:36,106 Jeremy. 165 00:12:37,732 --> 00:12:40,318 Seattle Slayer task force. 166 00:12:40,902 --> 00:12:44,990 Well, okay, I'm sure you have a lot of questions, 167 00:12:45,991 --> 00:12:50,078 so I will do the best I can to answer them, but first I... 168 00:12:50,996 --> 00:12:54,708 No. First, I think we should all have a cookie. 169 00:12:56,668 --> 00:12:58,753 These are from Janie Cates. 170 00:13:00,797 --> 00:13:02,007 Jeremy? 171 00:13:02,090 --> 00:13:03,383 Sure, thank you. 172 00:13:04,634 --> 00:13:05,969 Frank? 173 00:13:06,469 --> 00:13:08,013 No, thanks, Jack. 174 00:13:08,096 --> 00:13:09,264 No? 175 00:13:10,015 --> 00:13:11,474 Mr. Mactire? 176 00:13:13,601 --> 00:13:15,437 You're a good sport, Jeremy. 177 00:13:16,021 --> 00:13:18,732 A little milk maybe, what do you think? 178 00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:26,197 Shelly, we got milk, don't we? Bring in three glasses. 179 00:13:26,281 --> 00:13:28,074 Nothing for me, Jack. 180 00:13:28,158 --> 00:13:29,576 All right, make that two. 181 00:13:29,659 --> 00:13:30,994 No, make it three. 182 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Maybe you'll have a change of heart. 183 00:13:35,290 --> 00:13:37,042 So, let's see... 184 00:13:38,418 --> 00:13:43,006 I can assume that last night's crime scene 185 00:13:43,089 --> 00:13:46,384 was very much like Forster's previous crime scenes, right? 186 00:13:46,468 --> 00:13:47,886 They totally match, yeah. 187 00:13:47,969 --> 00:13:49,054 And where does this take us? 188 00:13:49,137 --> 00:13:51,806 Well, maybe, and this might be far-fetched, 189 00:13:51,890 --> 00:13:54,893 but what if the perp worked with Forster, 190 00:13:54,976 --> 00:13:59,397 and these staged scenes were intended to throw some doubt on his guilty verdict? 191 00:13:59,481 --> 00:14:00,482 Go with it. 192 00:14:00,565 --> 00:14:04,819 Possibly providing him with a stay of execution or even a new trial. 193 00:14:06,029 --> 00:14:08,782 Gold star, Jeremy. Big gold star. 194 00:14:09,282 --> 00:14:12,911 I mean, that's exactly what I think is happening here. 195 00:14:12,994 --> 00:14:14,913 No, I'm sticking with copycat. 196 00:14:14,996 --> 00:14:18,166 Yeah. Of course, there is another possibility. 197 00:14:18,249 --> 00:14:19,250 Yeah? 198 00:14:19,334 --> 00:14:20,794 Forster is innocent, wrongfully convicted. 199 00:14:20,877 --> 00:14:21,920 No. 200 00:14:22,003 --> 00:14:23,880 JEREMY: The task force is aware that 201 00:14:23,963 --> 00:14:26,883 your expert opinion was critical in convicting Forster. 202 00:14:26,966 --> 00:14:28,927 But then why did he walk his first trial? 203 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:30,386 Procedural error. 204 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:33,515 And why has he never been tried in any of the other five pending murders 205 00:14:33,598 --> 00:14:35,725 that you have attributed to him? 206 00:14:36,601 --> 00:14:38,645 You realize it's the solemn duty of my office 207 00:14:38,728 --> 00:14:41,397 to ensure an innocent man is not executed tonight. 208 00:14:41,481 --> 00:14:42,982 You do understand that? 209 00:14:43,066 --> 00:14:47,570 Look, Jack, if you have any reconsideration of testimony 210 00:14:47,654 --> 00:14:51,783 or anything new you wanna lay on the table, now would be the time. 211 00:14:51,866 --> 00:14:53,743 Would you say it was fair to characterize your attitude 212 00:14:53,827 --> 00:14:56,121 towards Jon Forster as a personal vendetta? 213 00:14:56,204 --> 00:14:59,165 Well, if we're being fair, yeah, sure. 214 00:14:59,249 --> 00:15:00,500 It's a personal vendetta. 215 00:15:00,583 --> 00:15:02,877 I have a personal vendetta against Ted Bundy 216 00:15:02,961 --> 00:15:07,298 and Gacy and about 10 or 15 other serial murderers that are floating around... 217 00:15:07,382 --> 00:15:09,092 Jack, please. ...the streets right now. 218 00:15:09,175 --> 00:15:11,094 JEREMY: No, this is helpful. 219 00:15:11,177 --> 00:15:13,888 There is one other issue that we need to address. 220 00:15:13,972 --> 00:15:15,306 Milkmaid. 221 00:15:28,111 --> 00:15:29,487 (DOOR OPENING) 222 00:15:29,654 --> 00:15:30,989 (DOOR CLOSING) 223 00:15:31,865 --> 00:15:33,575 What's going on here? 224 00:15:33,658 --> 00:15:35,785 Do you know a woman named Dale Morris? 225 00:15:36,995 --> 00:15:38,079 Yes. 226 00:15:38,621 --> 00:15:39,706 How? 227 00:15:40,373 --> 00:15:41,583 She's a student of mine. 228 00:15:41,666 --> 00:15:43,418 She's just a student of yours? 229 00:15:44,294 --> 00:15:46,212 Okay, Dr. Gramm, we're federal agents here. 230 00:15:46,296 --> 00:15:48,006 You don't want to be lying here. 231 00:15:48,089 --> 00:15:49,757 We had a relationship. 232 00:15:49,841 --> 00:15:51,676 You're being very cryptic with me right now. 233 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:55,722 We had a professional relationship, not a sexual relationship. 234 00:15:56,347 --> 00:15:59,684 About a year ago, her father died. She was very troubled. 235 00:15:59,767 --> 00:16:02,395 I treated her as a psychiatrist. 236 00:16:03,104 --> 00:16:05,690 I don't sleep with my students, Mr. Guber. 237 00:16:05,773 --> 00:16:08,193 Nor do I sleep with my patients. 238 00:16:09,152 --> 00:16:13,448 Now, what does this have to do with anything, anyway? 239 00:16:13,531 --> 00:16:14,616 Jack. 240 00:16:15,658 --> 00:16:18,119 Dale Morris was murdered last night. 241 00:16:18,203 --> 00:16:20,705 She's the third and latest victim. 242 00:16:23,666 --> 00:16:25,793 When was the last time you saw Dale? 243 00:16:29,214 --> 00:16:30,340 I... 244 00:16:34,969 --> 00:16:36,638 I saw her last night. 245 00:16:38,056 --> 00:16:41,476 To our impossibly difficult professor, 246 00:16:42,101 --> 00:16:43,895 we say thank you, 247 00:16:43,978 --> 00:16:45,188 (CHUCKLING) 248 00:16:45,271 --> 00:16:47,232 For making our lives miserable. 249 00:16:48,316 --> 00:16:50,109 The pleasure is all mine. 250 00:16:50,652 --> 00:16:53,071 (HIP HOP MUSIC PLAYING) 251 00:17:02,372 --> 00:17:03,456 We were celebrating. 252 00:17:03,539 --> 00:17:06,668 You were celebrating Forster's pending execution? 253 00:17:06,751 --> 00:17:12,131 No, we were celebrating his conviction, not his execution. 254 00:17:13,174 --> 00:17:16,928 It wasn't overturned So we were happy about that. We worked hard on this case. 255 00:17:17,011 --> 00:17:20,139 We have a tape that was left at the crime scene. 256 00:17:21,891 --> 00:17:24,227 We're gonna play it for you now. 257 00:17:25,478 --> 00:17:28,648 This message is for Dr. Jack Gramm. 258 00:17:30,191 --> 00:17:31,484 (SIGHS DEEPLY) 259 00:17:31,567 --> 00:17:35,280 You got the wrong man. Forster's innocent. 260 00:17:35,363 --> 00:17:37,699 Please don't hurt me anymore. 261 00:17:38,032 --> 00:17:40,201 Don't hurt me anymore. 262 00:17:41,661 --> 00:17:43,621 You're gonna let me go, right? 263 00:17:45,581 --> 00:17:49,127 You said you'd let me go. I read what you wanted me to read. I... 264 00:17:49,210 --> 00:17:50,753 (DALE SCREAMING) 265 00:17:54,632 --> 00:17:56,217 (DALE SOBBING) 266 00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:03,558 Jack, it goes on like that for about an hour before she dies. 267 00:18:03,641 --> 00:18:07,353 JEREMY: Why do you think she's reading you that message, Dr. Gramm? 268 00:18:13,443 --> 00:18:14,736 Dr. Gramm? 269 00:18:15,194 --> 00:18:16,654 (DOOR CLOSING) Dr. Gramm? 270 00:18:16,738 --> 00:18:17,989 Oh, my God. 271 00:18:18,072 --> 00:18:23,494 I want you to have our investigators coordinate with the FBI. 272 00:18:23,578 --> 00:18:27,123 I wanna know everything Dale Morris did in the last 24 hours. 273 00:18:27,206 --> 00:18:29,625 Where she went, who she talked to. 274 00:18:29,709 --> 00:18:33,504 Could you please have Dr. Gramm's car ready, please? Thank you. 275 00:18:34,756 --> 00:18:36,174 Thank you, Shelly. 276 00:18:36,883 --> 00:18:38,426 For what? 277 00:18:39,427 --> 00:18:40,887 I don't know. Everything. 278 00:18:40,970 --> 00:18:42,513 I hate when you do this, Jack. 279 00:18:42,597 --> 00:18:45,308 Every time you do this, | think you're gonna end up dead. 280 00:18:47,769 --> 00:18:50,188 Just don't ask me to marry you again. 281 00:18:50,271 --> 00:18:52,106 Why not? We're perfect for each other. 282 00:18:52,190 --> 00:18:56,152 Yeah, yeah. Except that I'm gay and you're a commitment-phobe. 283 00:18:56,235 --> 00:18:58,363 That's why we're perfect. 284 00:19:00,281 --> 00:19:01,699 Thanks, baby. 285 00:19:04,577 --> 00:19:08,706 In Dr. Gramm's own words, he analyzes a mental puzzle. 286 00:19:08,790 --> 00:19:12,251 So there are no actual tangible pieces per se. 287 00:19:12,335 --> 00:19:14,212 He made a guess as to what happened to the Cates twins, 288 00:19:14,295 --> 00:19:17,757 a guess based on his intuition, a personal bias, ego. 289 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,720 And he sold that fiction to the jury, lock, stock and barrel. 290 00:19:47,745 --> 00:19:49,956 KATE: Jack, look. Look at the kite! 291 00:19:54,502 --> 00:19:56,129 Jack, look at me. 292 00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:06,097 (KATE GIGGLING) 293 00:20:27,577 --> 00:20:29,579 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 294 00:20:35,001 --> 00:20:36,169 Yeah? 295 00:20:37,044 --> 00:20:38,171 Hello? 296 00:20:38,254 --> 00:20:40,381 (WOMAN SCREAMING) 297 00:20:41,007 --> 00:20:42,175 Hello? 298 00:20:42,884 --> 00:20:44,844 DISTORTED VOICE: You have 88 minutes to live. 299 00:20:44,927 --> 00:20:46,053 What? 300 00:20:46,137 --> 00:20:48,431 You know how long 88 minutes can be, don't you? 301 00:20:48,514 --> 00:20:49,974 That's 11:45 a.m. 302 00:20:50,057 --> 00:20:51,100 Who is this? 303 00:20:51,184 --> 00:20:53,019 Tick-tock. Who the hell is this? 304 00:20:53,102 --> 00:20:54,979 Tick-tock. Hey, hey. 305 00:20:55,646 --> 00:20:57,231 What are you saying? 306 00:21:12,663 --> 00:21:13,831 SHELLY: Jack Gramm Associates. 307 00:21:13,915 --> 00:21:15,041 Shelly? 308 00:21:15,124 --> 00:21:17,293 I want you to set a trap and a trace on my cell. 309 00:21:17,376 --> 00:21:18,377 What's going on? 310 00:21:18,461 --> 00:21:21,547 Yeah. I want you to contact my wireless carrier, 311 00:21:21,631 --> 00:21:24,217 have them find out who made that last phone call to me. 312 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:25,426 Jack, I could be more helpful if... 313 00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:26,552 Just do it. 314 00:21:26,636 --> 00:21:29,931 Just do it. I need it, all right? And call me when you get it. 315 00:21:31,015 --> 00:21:33,351 KIM: Jon Forster was an Eagle Scout, 316 00:21:33,434 --> 00:21:35,853 which accounts for his facility with ropes. 317 00:21:35,937 --> 00:21:38,189 He also worked in a veterinary office, 318 00:21:38,272 --> 00:21:41,526 where he had experience using the animal tranquilizer halothane, 319 00:21:41,609 --> 00:21:43,277 which is what he used to subdue his victims. 320 00:21:43,361 --> 00:21:47,698 Halothane. Sorry, I'm late, gang. Thank you, Kim. 321 00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:52,995 I see that the size of our class is dwindling once again. 322 00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:55,748 MIKE: That could be because you keep booting everyone. 323 00:21:55,831 --> 00:21:58,626 My favorite med student, Mike Stempt. 324 00:22:00,294 --> 00:22:05,800 Okay. The legal distinction between sanity and insanity rests upon what? 325 00:22:05,883 --> 00:22:07,009 ALL: Free will. 326 00:22:07,093 --> 00:22:09,303 The concept of free will. Yeah. 327 00:22:09,387 --> 00:22:15,059 And what is the most important thing one should remember when entering a courtroom? 328 00:22:15,142 --> 00:22:17,144 That insanity is a legal concept. 329 00:22:17,228 --> 00:22:18,854 It's not a medical or psychiatric term. 330 00:22:18,938 --> 00:22:21,065 But despite the fact that insanity is a legal concept, 331 00:22:21,148 --> 00:22:22,942 it doesn't mean that someone's not sick. 332 00:22:23,025 --> 00:22:24,652 Yes, Lauren. 333 00:22:24,735 --> 00:22:27,363 Of all the serial killers that I've interviewed and studied, 334 00:22:27,446 --> 00:22:31,534 which include our boy Bundy here, Dahmer, Gacy, 335 00:22:31,617 --> 00:22:33,995 none of them were legally insane. 336 00:22:34,495 --> 00:22:36,247 This is not to say they were normal. 337 00:22:36,330 --> 00:22:37,915 I could argue that they couldn't help themselves 338 00:22:37,999 --> 00:22:39,875 precisely because of their mental disorder. 339 00:22:39,959 --> 00:22:42,086 Well, if you wanna argue, Mike, 340 00:22:42,169 --> 00:22:44,088 school of law IS across campus. 341 00:22:44,171 --> 00:22:45,798 Come on, Dr. Gramm. 342 00:22:45,881 --> 00:22:49,510 It's disingenuous to pretend our presentations are not arguments. 343 00:22:49,594 --> 00:22:51,512 We create a narrative of the crime and the criminal. 344 00:22:51,596 --> 00:22:54,307 Narrative is based on fact, based on logic. 345 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:58,144 We don't walk into a courtroom and advocate sentencing, do we? 346 00:22:58,227 --> 00:23:01,772 We don't take sides. We check our views at the door. 347 00:23:02,523 --> 00:23:04,609 You mean you want us to pretend we don't have an opinion? 348 00:23:04,692 --> 00:23:07,445 We have opinions, Lauren, but we just keep them to ourselves. 349 00:23:07,528 --> 00:23:09,780 Share them with your dog if you have to. 350 00:23:09,864 --> 00:23:12,366 But not your parrot, 'cause it talks back. 351 00:23:13,159 --> 00:23:16,287 You know, it's that kind of logic that's gonna get you into law school across campus. 352 00:23:16,370 --> 00:23:17,955 Been there. Done that. 353 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:19,707 Well, my condolences. 354 00:23:19,790 --> 00:23:21,125 (ALL LAUGHING) 355 00:23:21,208 --> 00:23:24,629 So, where's Dale Morris? 356 00:23:24,712 --> 00:23:27,131 She's absent. I don't see her. 357 00:23:29,216 --> 00:23:30,843 That's a first. 358 00:23:34,847 --> 00:23:36,432 I didn't take her for a quitter. 359 00:23:36,515 --> 00:23:38,100 (CAMERA CLICKING) 360 00:23:38,184 --> 00:23:39,727 Anyone who has her phone number, 361 00:23:39,810 --> 00:23:41,729 please contact me after class. 362 00:23:46,150 --> 00:23:47,485 Okay. 363 00:23:47,568 --> 00:23:48,653 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 364 00:23:48,736 --> 00:23:50,071 Excuse me. 365 00:23:52,406 --> 00:23:53,449 Shelly. 366 00:23:53,532 --> 00:23:55,201 DISTORTED VOICE: Tick-tock, Doc. 367 00:23:55,284 --> 00:23:57,912 You have 83 minutes to live, Dr. Gramm. 368 00:23:59,372 --> 00:24:00,706 Tick-tock, Doc. 369 00:24:00,790 --> 00:24:01,999 (DIAL TONE) 370 00:24:12,343 --> 00:24:14,345 So where was 1? 371 00:24:14,428 --> 00:24:16,263 Bundy versus Forster. 372 00:24:16,347 --> 00:24:17,431 What? 373 00:24:17,515 --> 00:24:18,808 Bundy versus Forster. 374 00:24:19,850 --> 00:24:21,852 Thank you, Lauren. 375 00:24:24,397 --> 00:24:25,940 You're welcome. 376 00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:30,569 What we're gonna explore today is 377 00:24:30,695 --> 00:24:33,114 (RINGING) the similarities and dissimilarities, say, 378 00:24:33,197 --> 00:24:38,369 from Ted Bundy's modus operandi, as compared to Jon Forster's. 379 00:24:38,452 --> 00:24:40,246 (CELL PHONE CONTINUES RINGING) 380 00:24:44,125 --> 00:24:46,460 Dr. Gramm, your phone's ringing. 381 00:24:53,634 --> 00:24:54,802 SHELLY: Jack, are you there? 382 00:24:54,885 --> 00:24:56,053 Shelly, what's going on? 383 00:24:56,137 --> 00:24:57,805 The call was made from a cell phone. 384 00:24:57,888 --> 00:25:00,182 One of those you buy and pay minutes for. 385 00:25:00,266 --> 00:25:01,392 Registered to whom? 386 00:25:01,475 --> 00:25:03,018 Look, I know you're in class, but... 387 00:25:03,102 --> 00:25:04,812 Yes, so who is it registered to? 388 00:25:06,689 --> 00:25:08,190 A Kate Gramm. 389 00:25:12,069 --> 00:25:13,446 Jack, it's a common enough name. 390 00:25:13,529 --> 00:25:14,864 It doesn't have to be your sister. 391 00:25:14,947 --> 00:25:16,407 It's just a coincidence. 392 00:25:18,242 --> 00:25:19,577 It's not a coincidence. 393 00:25:22,329 --> 00:25:23,789 It's not a coincidence. 394 00:25:25,541 --> 00:25:28,335 Shelly? God damn it. Shelly? 395 00:25:28,419 --> 00:25:31,881 DISTORTED VOICE: Have you found out who my phone is registered to by now? 396 00:25:31,964 --> 00:25:33,591 Poor Kate. 397 00:25:33,674 --> 00:25:35,259 Or is it Katie you like to call her? 398 00:25:35,342 --> 00:25:37,219 (SOFTLY) I'm gonna find you. You understand? 399 00:25:37,303 --> 00:25:39,555 I'm gonna find out what you're up to, you son of a bitch, 400 00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:40,973 and I'm gonna put an end to your threats, 401 00:25:41,056 --> 00:25:42,391 once and for all. You understand? 402 00:25:42,475 --> 00:25:45,436 She suffered for such a long time. 403 00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:47,938 You remember how long, don't you? 404 00:25:48,022 --> 00:25:50,608 You still feel guilty about her? 405 00:25:50,691 --> 00:25:55,946 You feel guilty about falsifying the evidence? Lying under oath? 406 00:25:56,030 --> 00:25:59,283 Tick-tock, Doc. You have 79 minutes to live. 407 00:26:27,144 --> 00:26:28,145 (CELL PHONE BEEPS) 408 00:26:28,229 --> 00:26:29,230 Oh! 409 00:26:30,815 --> 00:26:32,942 You find this funny, Albert? 410 00:26:33,025 --> 00:26:35,236 Who are you calling on your phone? 411 00:26:36,237 --> 00:26:38,072 Let me see your phone. 412 00:26:38,155 --> 00:26:39,532 I was just... 413 00:26:39,615 --> 00:26:40,950 Let me see that goddamn phone. 414 00:26:41,033 --> 00:26:42,493 I was just checking the Mariners score. 415 00:26:42,576 --> 00:26:43,661 You were what? 416 00:26:43,744 --> 00:26:44,787 I was checking the Mariners score. 417 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:46,747 Okay, what's the score? 418 00:26:48,082 --> 00:26:49,542 The score. 419 00:26:49,625 --> 00:26:51,502 What's the damn score? 420 00:26:52,044 --> 00:26:55,172 It's 3-1 Mariners, bottom of the first. 421 00:27:29,540 --> 00:27:30,958 Oh, my God, I can't believe it. 422 00:27:31,041 --> 00:27:32,376 What is it, Leeza? What's the problem? 423 00:27:32,459 --> 00:27:33,794 Look. 424 00:27:33,878 --> 00:27:35,129 What? 425 00:27:35,629 --> 00:27:36,797 JACK: What's going on here? 426 00:27:36,881 --> 00:27:39,884 It says that Dale Morris was murdered last night. 427 00:27:39,967 --> 00:27:41,427 Is that true, Dr. Gramm? 428 00:27:42,052 --> 00:27:43,220 Yeah. 429 00:27:43,304 --> 00:27:46,223 You knew? You knew and you didn't tell us? 430 00:27:46,307 --> 00:27:48,017 You knew and you asked for Dale's number? 431 00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,602 LEEZA: Is it the Slayer? 432 00:27:49,685 --> 00:27:51,729 It could be. KIM: Could be? 433 00:27:51,812 --> 00:27:54,064 Well, the police haven't released any information yet. 434 00:27:54,148 --> 00:27:55,232 Are we all in danger? 435 00:27:55,316 --> 00:27:56,692 I can't believe you didn't tell us. 436 00:27:56,775 --> 00:27:58,068 Dr. Gramm? 437 00:27:58,152 --> 00:27:59,403 JACK: Dean Johnson. 438 00:27:59,486 --> 00:28:01,155 Someone called in a bomb threat. 439 00:28:01,238 --> 00:28:04,325 Everyone needs to evacuate the building immediately. Thank you. 440 00:28:04,408 --> 00:28:05,618 STUDENT: Come on. Grab your stuff. 441 00:28:05,701 --> 00:28:06,869 STUDENT 2: Let's get out of here. 442 00:28:06,952 --> 00:28:09,580 KIM: I'll get your papers and presentation. 443 00:28:09,663 --> 00:28:12,583 MIKE: I got the slides, Kim. All right. 444 00:28:15,252 --> 00:28:19,506 MAN OVER P.A.: All students, faculty and staff must evacuate the building. 445 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:23,010 I repeat, everyone must evacuate the building. 446 00:28:23,218 --> 00:28:26,555 (ALARM RINGING) 447 00:28:31,894 --> 00:28:36,148 All students, faculty and staff must evacuate the building. 448 00:28:36,231 --> 00:28:39,860 I repeat, everyone must evacuate the building. 449 00:28:40,194 --> 00:28:42,988 (ALARM RINGING) 450 00:28:43,072 --> 00:28:46,033 Please remain calm and do not run. 451 00:28:46,116 --> 00:28:49,036 Proceed to the northern end of the campus. 452 00:28:49,495 --> 00:28:52,665 I repeat, we must evacuate the building. 453 00:28:53,832 --> 00:28:56,752 Jack? What are you doing? Get going. 454 00:29:04,134 --> 00:29:06,261 What was that on the screen? 455 00:29:07,888 --> 00:29:11,016 Some student playing a joke, I guess. 456 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,685 You of all people know that every outbreak 457 00:29:12,768 --> 00:29:14,311 of school violence is preceded by a threat. 458 00:29:14,395 --> 00:29:17,356 You need to report this to Campus Security immediately. 459 00:29:17,439 --> 00:29:21,485 Carol, I get a threat like this three or four times a year. 460 00:29:21,568 --> 00:29:24,571 Your incredible arrogance makes me want to slap the shit out of you, Jack. 461 00:29:24,655 --> 00:29:27,116 Well, I wish you would have disclosed your true feelings about me 462 00:29:27,199 --> 00:29:28,659 before we became such good friends. 463 00:29:28,742 --> 00:29:30,035 Maybe you should stop hiding behind 464 00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,454 your assessments of other people and start assessing yourself. 465 00:29:32,538 --> 00:29:34,498 "Cause you need to get over your past and on with your life 466 00:29:34,581 --> 00:29:36,375 'cause what you're living isn't one. 467 00:29:36,458 --> 00:29:38,794 Isn't that what you tell your patients? 468 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,714 Thank you. Gum? 469 00:29:42,172 --> 00:29:44,508 I'll call Campus Security and let them know you're on your way. 470 00:29:44,591 --> 00:29:47,594 Where did you go last night? When you left the bar. 471 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,015 Home. 472 00:29:51,098 --> 00:29:52,516 Were you alone? 473 00:29:53,767 --> 00:29:55,102 Screw you. 474 00:29:57,771 --> 00:29:59,606 (SIREN WAILING) 475 00:30:14,121 --> 00:30:15,622 Roger. We're on it. 476 00:30:18,459 --> 00:30:19,793 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 477 00:30:26,216 --> 00:30:27,217 Yeah. 478 00:30:27,301 --> 00:30:30,095 The press got a hold of Dale's name. It's all over the news. 479 00:30:30,179 --> 00:30:31,764 JACK: Yeah, well, I know that. 480 00:30:33,098 --> 00:30:35,142 SHELLY: And Forster's attorneys are going to the appellate court. 481 00:30:35,225 --> 00:30:36,977 They're going to try to get a stay. 482 00:30:37,061 --> 00:30:39,063 A stay? On what grounds? 483 00:30:39,146 --> 00:30:42,066 They are claiming that these murders prove that the real killers 484 00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:43,901 have never been brought to justice. 485 00:30:43,984 --> 00:30:46,862 Nonsense. They're just trying to buy time. They're desperate. 486 00:30:46,945 --> 00:30:50,407 They're also claiming that you falsified testimony and concealed evidence. 487 00:30:50,491 --> 00:30:52,951 Well, that's old news. God damn it. 488 00:30:53,702 --> 00:30:55,662 Who is that guy? 489 00:30:58,957 --> 00:31:02,377 What about Dale Morris? Did we find anything more about her? 490 00:31:02,795 --> 00:31:05,339 She was murdered in her apartment 491 00:31:05,422 --> 00:31:07,925 somewhere between the hours of 2:00 and 6:00 a.m. 492 00:31:08,008 --> 00:31:09,760 Any sign of forced entry? No. 493 00:31:09,843 --> 00:31:13,680 Does Forster still have that legion of groupies visiting him at prison? 494 00:31:13,764 --> 00:31:16,850 Are you kidding? He's like a goddamn rock star, website and all. 495 00:31:16,934 --> 00:31:19,728 All right, I want you to pull the background checks on all my students, 496 00:31:19,812 --> 00:31:21,355 and get back to me. 497 00:31:23,273 --> 00:31:24,358 Damn. 498 00:31:27,861 --> 00:31:29,071 Oh, no. 499 00:32:11,989 --> 00:32:13,073 Okay. 500 00:33:04,750 --> 00:33:06,835 (FOOTSTEPS) 501 00:33:11,548 --> 00:33:13,842 Kim? What are you doing here? 502 00:33:13,926 --> 00:33:15,093 I'm getting my car. 503 00:33:15,177 --> 00:33:17,888 It's parked here like it is every day I come to the campus. 504 00:33:19,014 --> 00:33:21,350 That was really horrible. 505 00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:23,894 Just horrible what you did in class. This was a new low for you. 506 00:33:23,977 --> 00:33:26,605 I was looking for potential suspects. That's what I was doing. 507 00:33:26,688 --> 00:33:28,899 What did you do after you left the party last night? 508 00:33:28,982 --> 00:33:31,944 I didn't wind up drunk in bed with a stranger like you. 509 00:33:32,027 --> 00:33:33,570 You left the party with Dale Morris, 510 00:33:33,654 --> 00:33:35,906 the girl that was murdered, didn't you? 511 00:33:35,989 --> 00:33:37,032 (SIGHS) 512 00:33:37,115 --> 00:33:38,242 Yes, I did. 513 00:33:38,325 --> 00:33:40,327 So what did you do? Where did you go? 514 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:43,664 You are not seriously considering... 515 00:33:44,831 --> 00:33:45,832 Where did you go? 516 00:33:45,916 --> 00:33:48,961 We went to the Hickory Stick. We had a drink, two drinks. 517 00:33:49,044 --> 00:33:50,295 And then? 518 00:33:50,379 --> 00:33:51,964 And then I went home, alone. 519 00:33:52,631 --> 00:33:54,258 You have anyone that can verify that? 520 00:33:54,341 --> 00:33:56,051 No. No one can verify it. 521 00:33:56,134 --> 00:33:57,803 Come on. I've been your teaching assistant for two years. 522 00:33:57,886 --> 00:34:00,555 I'm your friend. I'm here to help you, if you'll let me. 523 00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:01,974 Follow me. 524 00:34:05,394 --> 00:34:06,728 Follow me. 525 00:34:10,899 --> 00:34:12,359 Who did that? 526 00:34:13,527 --> 00:34:14,736 What does it mean? 527 00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:16,947 Well, according to an anonymous phone caller, 528 00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:19,825 it means I got 72 minutes left to live. 529 00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:24,037 Can I borrow your cell phone? I broke mine. 530 00:34:25,205 --> 00:34:26,290 These are my car keys. 531 00:34:26,373 --> 00:34:28,917 Could you take that around front and meet me there in 10 minutes? 532 00:34:29,001 --> 00:34:31,086 I have to go to Campus Security. 533 00:34:31,169 --> 00:34:32,212 Okay. 534 00:34:32,296 --> 00:34:34,256 Call me on my Blackberry if you run late. 535 00:34:34,339 --> 00:34:35,924 JACK: Okay. 536 00:34:37,301 --> 00:34:40,762 Shelly, you're gonna have to reach me on Kim's cell phone. 537 00:34:40,846 --> 00:34:41,930 What happened to yours? 538 00:34:42,014 --> 00:34:43,807 I broke it. What? 539 00:34:43,890 --> 00:34:45,100 You have her number, don't you? 540 00:34:45,183 --> 00:34:46,310 SHELLY: Yeah, I do. 541 00:34:46,393 --> 00:34:51,273 Listen, just forward all the calls, okay, to Kim's cell. 542 00:34:52,232 --> 00:34:53,942 Please. Thanks. 543 00:34:54,026 --> 00:34:55,235 Dr. Gramm. 544 00:34:55,736 --> 00:34:57,154 Hey, Mike. 545 00:34:58,697 --> 00:35:01,074 Everyone is pretty upset about Dale. 546 00:35:01,158 --> 00:35:03,410 Yeah, well, that's understandable, 547 00:35:03,493 --> 00:35:05,704 considering the circumstances. Yes. 548 00:35:05,787 --> 00:35:07,831 I had a question about Jon Forster. 549 00:35:07,914 --> 00:35:09,416 Yeah? What? 550 00:35:10,292 --> 00:35:14,004 Well, I've been going through the trial transcripts and case history. 551 00:35:14,087 --> 00:35:15,839 Why would you do that? 552 00:35:15,922 --> 00:35:17,591 To understand your process better, 553 00:35:17,674 --> 00:35:19,718 how you come to your conclusions. 554 00:35:20,677 --> 00:35:21,845 And? 555 00:35:22,387 --> 00:35:23,597 What? 556 00:35:24,931 --> 00:35:27,559 Is it possible Forster is innocent? 557 00:35:27,642 --> 00:35:28,894 No. 558 00:35:28,977 --> 00:35:31,021 You won't even consider the possibility? 559 00:35:31,104 --> 00:35:32,147 Nope. 560 00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:35,942 You're completely convinced the scenario you put together is the only one? 561 00:35:36,026 --> 00:35:39,029 First of all, I didn't put together a scenario. 562 00:35:39,112 --> 00:35:40,697 I recreated a crime scene. 563 00:35:40,781 --> 00:35:43,950 Second, I didn't convict Forster. A jury did. 564 00:35:44,034 --> 00:35:47,371 But the evidence was circumstantial. No DNA, no murder weapon. 565 00:35:47,454 --> 00:35:50,207 Nothing directly linking Forster to the crime, 566 00:35:50,290 --> 00:35:53,001 except your narrative and Janie Cates' testimony, which... 567 00:35:53,085 --> 00:35:54,461 What's your point? 568 00:35:54,544 --> 00:35:56,755 Just that your testimony was very convincing. 569 00:35:56,838 --> 00:36:00,133 That's my job. To be convincing. 570 00:36:02,344 --> 00:36:04,554 I thought it was to be right. 571 00:36:17,192 --> 00:36:18,318 WOMAN: Help! 572 00:36:20,487 --> 00:36:22,322 Somebody, please! 573 00:36:26,535 --> 00:36:29,079 WOMAN: Help! Help! 574 00:36:33,667 --> 00:36:34,709 Lauren. Dr. Gramm. 575 00:36:34,793 --> 00:36:36,461 What happened to you? He's wearing a leather jacket. 576 00:36:36,545 --> 00:36:39,339 He's out there. I bit his hand, it's bleeding. 577 00:36:39,423 --> 00:36:41,049 His hand is bloody. Can you get him? 578 00:36:41,133 --> 00:36:43,301 You're okay? Go get him now! I'm fine! 579 00:37:07,117 --> 00:37:08,368 (TIRES SCREECHING) 580 00:37:16,543 --> 00:37:18,170 Watch my car! This is a police action! 581 00:37:18,253 --> 00:37:20,297 There's been an assault. I wanna see your hands. 582 00:37:20,380 --> 00:37:21,798 Back off! Roll the window down. 583 00:37:21,882 --> 00:37:22,966 No! 584 00:37:23,049 --> 00:37:28,430 I'm a forensic psychiatrist with the FBI. There. Okay? Open the window now. 585 00:37:28,513 --> 00:37:29,598 Yeah. 586 00:37:29,681 --> 00:37:32,184 See? Well, roll down the window and let me see your hands. 587 00:37:32,267 --> 00:37:33,602 Let me see your hands. 588 00:37:33,685 --> 00:37:35,187 You got nothing to hide, you can show me. 589 00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:38,565 No. Look, I'm trying to go home. What? 590 00:37:39,524 --> 00:37:41,359 Okay, sorry. 591 00:37:47,824 --> 00:37:52,078 Excuse me. There's been an assault. I wanna see your hand. 592 00:37:58,752 --> 00:38:00,629 Okay. Hold on! 593 00:38:01,963 --> 00:38:04,216 There's been an assault. I gotta check your hands. 594 00:38:04,299 --> 00:38:07,511 I'm a forensic psychiatrist with the FBI. 595 00:38:07,594 --> 00:38:08,887 Okay? 596 00:38:13,475 --> 00:38:14,976 Thank you very much. 597 00:38:23,485 --> 00:38:24,694 Sorry. 598 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,705 I couldn't find him. 599 00:38:35,789 --> 00:38:37,123 Here. 600 00:38:38,124 --> 00:38:41,628 This is stupid. I'm so stupid. 601 00:38:41,711 --> 00:38:43,547 I can't believe I'm so weak. I'm such a wimp. 602 00:38:43,630 --> 00:38:45,006 It's not your fault. Come on. 603 00:38:45,090 --> 00:38:46,508 I can't believe I let him get away like that. 604 00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:48,051 Okay? I should have fought back more. 605 00:38:48,134 --> 00:38:50,387 Stop beating yourself up. What exactly happened? 606 00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:53,765 He came at me from behind. He put this rag over my mouth and I bit his hand. 607 00:38:53,848 --> 00:38:55,183 Did the rag have an odor to it? 608 00:38:55,267 --> 00:38:56,768 Smelled sweet. 609 00:38:57,852 --> 00:38:59,771 It's halothane, right? 610 00:38:59,854 --> 00:39:01,648 Yeah. He's the one. 611 00:39:02,190 --> 00:39:03,483 Probably, yeah. 612 00:39:03,567 --> 00:39:04,818 I let Dale's murderer get away. 613 00:39:04,901 --> 00:39:06,695 Hey, will you stop beating yourself up? Now tell me something. 614 00:39:06,820 --> 00:39:08,280 I can't believe Dale's dead. Tell me something. 615 00:39:08,363 --> 00:39:10,824 Could you identify him if you saw him again? 616 00:39:10,907 --> 00:39:13,743 He came at me from behind. I didn't see. 617 00:39:15,453 --> 00:39:18,540 Let's go. Let's go to Campus Security and tell them everything. 618 00:39:18,665 --> 00:39:20,333 (SIREN BLARING) 619 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,552 Hello? This woman has just been attacked. 620 00:39:30,635 --> 00:39:32,220 Are you okay? 621 00:39:32,304 --> 00:39:33,471 I think so. 622 00:39:33,555 --> 00:39:34,806 What's your name? 623 00:39:36,224 --> 00:39:38,143 I'm Lauren Douglas. 624 00:39:38,226 --> 00:39:39,436 And who are you? 625 00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:40,937 I'm Jack Gramm. 626 00:39:41,605 --> 00:39:43,690 The famous Dr. Jack Gramm? 627 00:39:43,773 --> 00:39:45,483 Dean Johnson phoned and said you'd be coming in. 628 00:39:45,567 --> 00:39:48,612 Is there someone to interview Miss Douglas now, please? 629 00:39:49,404 --> 00:39:50,530 Jimmy? Yeah. 630 00:39:50,614 --> 00:39:51,865 You wanna check out this girl? 631 00:39:51,948 --> 00:39:53,116 JIMMY: In a minute. 632 00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:54,743 Right this way. 633 00:40:00,290 --> 00:40:02,125 What is going on here? 634 00:40:02,208 --> 00:40:04,419 The person who attacked her may still be on the campus. 635 00:40:04,502 --> 00:40:05,629 What the hell are you guys doing? 636 00:40:05,712 --> 00:40:08,048 We got all these guys out on the bomb scare. 637 00:40:08,131 --> 00:40:09,466 Will you excuse me for one moment? 638 00:40:09,549 --> 00:40:10,884 It's a little crazy around here. 639 00:40:10,967 --> 00:40:13,553 Jimmy, get off the phone and interview Miss Douglas, please. 640 00:40:13,637 --> 00:40:15,388 JIMMY: I'll be right there. 641 00:40:15,972 --> 00:40:17,098 JACK: Thank you. 642 00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:20,310 Why don't you sit down here? 643 00:40:22,771 --> 00:40:24,648 Okay, you okay? 644 00:40:27,609 --> 00:40:28,735 SHELLY: Jack Gramm Associates. 645 00:40:28,818 --> 00:40:31,404 Shelly? Get Frank, and patch him through when you get him. 646 00:40:31,488 --> 00:40:32,989 Okay. Okay, thank you. 647 00:40:33,907 --> 00:40:35,659 I don't want you going back to your apartment 648 00:40:35,742 --> 00:40:37,952 until the locks are changed, Lauren. 649 00:40:38,036 --> 00:40:40,538 I don't really have anywhere else to go. 650 00:40:41,539 --> 00:40:45,293 After you talk to the officer here, go back to my office. 651 00:40:45,377 --> 00:40:47,337 Shelly will find you a place to stay. 652 00:40:47,420 --> 00:40:48,463 Okay. 653 00:40:48,546 --> 00:40:49,547 Come on. It's gonna be all right. 654 00:40:49,631 --> 00:40:52,801 I'm sorry for all the trouble I caused, Dr. Gramm. 655 00:40:55,887 --> 00:40:58,098 Miss Douglas. Right this way. 656 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,141 Right in here. 657 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,102 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 658 00:41:02,769 --> 00:41:03,853 Yeah? 659 00:41:03,937 --> 00:41:05,605 Hey, I left word for Frank. 660 00:41:05,689 --> 00:41:07,190 Okay. There's been another incident. 661 00:41:07,273 --> 00:41:08,274 Okay. 662 00:41:08,358 --> 00:41:10,860 The Forster case, that's your thing, right? 663 00:41:10,944 --> 00:41:12,696 Wrong, it's not my thing. 664 00:41:12,779 --> 00:41:15,198 I saw your testimony on Court TV. 665 00:41:15,281 --> 00:41:16,700 Is that right? 666 00:41:16,783 --> 00:41:18,118 You fill those out. 667 00:41:19,953 --> 00:41:24,541 Yeah, I follow the big crime cases. They fascinate me. 668 00:41:24,624 --> 00:41:27,335 And when Dr. Jack Gramm takes the stand... 669 00:41:28,294 --> 00:41:30,880 You come up with things I didn't think of. 670 00:41:33,258 --> 00:41:35,301 Yeah, this here, this is just a job until... 671 00:41:35,385 --> 00:41:37,554 Until you pass your police entrance exam. 672 00:41:38,263 --> 00:41:39,848 See? How did you know that? 673 00:41:39,931 --> 00:41:41,099 Just a guess. 674 00:41:41,182 --> 00:41:45,103 That's the thing about you. You know how to put two plus two and you make it four. 675 00:41:45,186 --> 00:41:46,688 Or five. 676 00:41:46,771 --> 00:41:48,481 Third time's a charm though. 677 00:41:48,565 --> 00:41:52,068 I'm not gonna be a campus cop to a bunch of snot-nosed rich kids. 678 00:41:52,152 --> 00:41:53,737 Especially these rich bitches. They don't... 679 00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:57,741 For the record, my car was vandalized. The windows were smashed. 680 00:41:57,824 --> 00:42:00,160 Did a number on the body. Look into it. 681 00:42:01,494 --> 00:42:02,996 Dr. Gramm? 682 00:42:05,999 --> 00:42:07,500 Dr. Gramm? 683 00:42:11,838 --> 00:42:16,468 Hey, this is Johnny D'Franco, from Campus Security. Can you get me Dean Johnson? 684 00:42:17,010 --> 00:42:18,094 SHELLY: Jack Gramm Associates. 685 00:42:18,178 --> 00:42:19,137 Yeah, Shelly. 686 00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:20,305 Did you find Frank? 687 00:42:20,388 --> 00:42:22,265 No, not yet. What the hell is going on? 688 00:42:22,348 --> 00:42:25,393 Well, I received a threatening phone call 689 00:42:25,477 --> 00:42:27,771 saying I have 88 minutes to live. 690 00:42:27,854 --> 00:42:30,732 11:45 this morning, and my time is up. 691 00:42:30,815 --> 00:42:32,817 Pull out my risk assessment file. 692 00:42:32,901 --> 00:42:35,195 Anybody rating eight and above, 693 00:42:35,278 --> 00:42:38,573 I want you to cross-reference against Forster. 694 00:42:38,656 --> 00:42:40,241 And when you find Frank, 695 00:42:40,325 --> 00:42:45,163 ask him if Sara Pollard or any of my students ever visited Forster in prison. 696 00:42:45,413 --> 00:42:47,040 Who's Sara Pollard? 697 00:42:47,123 --> 00:42:49,834 She's the girl I met at the party last night. 698 00:42:51,211 --> 00:42:55,298 Call Warden Eaton, and have him make a list of all the phone numbers 699 00:42:55,381 --> 00:42:57,383 Forster called in the last 72 hours. 700 00:42:57,467 --> 00:42:59,677 Where should I fax the list? 701 00:42:59,761 --> 00:43:03,056 My apartment. And run a check on Kim. 702 00:43:04,808 --> 00:43:05,892 Kim? 703 00:43:06,643 --> 00:43:09,187 Yeah, just do it, okay? Hello. 704 00:43:09,395 --> 00:43:10,647 (STATIC ON PHONE) Jack. 705 00:43:11,397 --> 00:43:13,399 Damn it. The car is out front. 706 00:43:13,483 --> 00:43:15,318 Drives great. Oh, good. 707 00:43:15,401 --> 00:43:17,153 Are you okay? You look a little freaked out. 708 00:43:17,237 --> 00:43:19,155 Yeah. You have a battery for your phone? 709 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,657 Yeah, I do. 710 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,037 What the hell is this? What are you doing? 711 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,373 God damn it, what is this? 712 00:43:28,456 --> 00:43:29,833 What are you doing with a gun in your purse? 713 00:43:29,916 --> 00:43:31,501 Jesus, why don't you just announce it to the world? 714 00:43:31,584 --> 00:43:33,711 I don't think they heard you in the English department. 715 00:43:33,795 --> 00:43:34,838 Why the gun, Kim? 716 00:43:34,921 --> 00:43:36,381 For protection. 717 00:43:36,422 --> 00:43:39,425 Where did you get it? | have a permit. My dad's a cop. 718 00:43:39,509 --> 00:43:40,802 Why do you need a gun? 719 00:43:40,885 --> 00:43:42,512 I don't. My dad thinks I do. 720 00:43:42,595 --> 00:43:43,721 Why? 721 00:43:43,805 --> 00:43:45,723 I have a crazy ex-boyfriend, okay, Jack? 722 00:43:45,807 --> 00:43:47,517 Oh, Jesus. God. 723 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,520 Yeah. I really know how to pick them or what? 724 00:43:50,603 --> 00:43:52,856 The judge says if he threatens anyone, he goes back to jail. 725 00:43:52,939 --> 00:43:54,899 Back to jail? What jail? 726 00:43:55,567 --> 00:43:58,403 Prison, actually. Walla Walla. 727 00:44:00,947 --> 00:44:02,949 That's where Forster is. 728 00:44:05,076 --> 00:44:06,286 Come on, let's go. 729 00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:08,705 Special Agent Parks. 730 00:44:08,788 --> 00:44:10,164 Frank, it's Jack. 731 00:44:10,248 --> 00:44:13,543 I'm at the university campus. We got a problem here. 732 00:44:13,626 --> 00:44:15,253 Someone attacked one of my students 733 00:44:15,336 --> 00:44:16,921 and tried to knock her out with halothane. 734 00:44:17,005 --> 00:44:19,048 FRANK: Well, that's the Seattle Slayer's MO. 735 00:44:19,132 --> 00:44:22,260 I know, hold on. Give me a second. 736 00:44:23,261 --> 00:44:24,262 Yeah. 737 00:44:24,345 --> 00:44:27,891 There's a security guard on this campus, his name is D'Franco. 738 00:44:27,974 --> 00:44:30,018 I don't like him. He's suspicious. 739 00:44:30,101 --> 00:44:32,312 I want you to take him in for questioning, okay? 740 00:44:32,395 --> 00:44:35,023 Also get a warrant and search his place. 741 00:44:35,106 --> 00:44:36,232 Jesus Christ, Jack. 742 00:44:36,316 --> 00:44:39,235 You know I can't just get a warrant without sufficient grounds. 743 00:44:39,319 --> 00:44:41,279 Just get a warrant, Frank. Come on. 744 00:44:41,362 --> 00:44:43,364 Do you think he's the Slayer? 745 00:44:43,448 --> 00:44:45,241 The link to Forster on the outside? 746 00:44:45,325 --> 00:44:46,784 It's possible. 747 00:44:46,868 --> 00:44:50,830 Listen, I checked the names that Shelly gave me of your students. 748 00:44:50,914 --> 00:44:54,584 And there's no record of Lauren Douglas, Kim Whitman, or Sara Pollard, 749 00:44:54,667 --> 00:44:55,919 but you're gonna love this. 750 00:44:56,002 --> 00:45:00,673 Mike Stempt, he visited Forster four times over the last six weeks. 751 00:45:01,007 --> 00:45:02,884 Mike Stempt. What was his reason? 752 00:45:03,176 --> 00:45:05,345 FRANK: Research. He had written permission. 753 00:45:05,428 --> 00:45:09,265 No, no, no, no. I didn't give him any permission, written or otherwise. 754 00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:13,061 Well, it's your signature, Jack. I got a copy of it right here. 755 00:45:14,020 --> 00:45:16,481 Hold on. That ex... Hold on a second. That ex-boyfriend of yours. 756 00:45:16,564 --> 00:45:17,774 What's his name? 757 00:45:17,857 --> 00:45:19,525 Guy LaForge. 758 00:45:19,609 --> 00:45:22,320 Run a check on a parolee named Guy LaForge, 759 00:45:22,403 --> 00:45:25,156 served time at Walla Walla with Forster. 760 00:45:25,823 --> 00:45:28,493 And I will call you back when I get to my apartment. 761 00:45:28,576 --> 00:45:29,911 All right. 762 00:45:31,579 --> 00:45:33,206 You think D'Franco's working with Forster? 763 00:45:33,289 --> 00:45:34,791 JACK: Well, someone is. 764 00:45:34,874 --> 00:45:35,959 I got Dean Johnson. 765 00:45:36,042 --> 00:45:37,043 Yeah. 766 00:45:37,627 --> 00:45:39,629 They found a backpack in your lecture hall. 767 00:45:39,712 --> 00:45:41,714 Well, was a bomb in there? 768 00:45:41,798 --> 00:45:45,885 No. A photo of dynamite, and a timer with a note addressed to you. 769 00:45:45,969 --> 00:45:46,970 What did it say? 770 00:45:47,053 --> 00:45:48,388 "Tick-tock." 771 00:45:49,889 --> 00:45:51,265 What does it mean, Jack? 772 00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:52,850 I'll call you back. 773 00:46:17,542 --> 00:46:19,502 Are you okay? Yeah. 774 00:46:19,585 --> 00:46:21,504 What the hell was that? 775 00:46:22,839 --> 00:46:25,133 JACK: Probably someone trying to scare us. 776 00:46:25,216 --> 00:46:28,511 Who do you think would do something like that? 777 00:46:28,594 --> 00:46:31,305 Does your boyfriend drive a motorcycle? 778 00:46:31,389 --> 00:46:32,807 Yeah. 779 00:46:32,890 --> 00:46:34,600 Except he's not my boyfriend anymore. 780 00:46:34,684 --> 00:46:35,852 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 781 00:46:35,935 --> 00:46:36,978 Yeah. 782 00:46:37,061 --> 00:46:40,064 DISTORTED VOICE: How does it feel to know you won't live through another night? 783 00:46:40,148 --> 00:46:43,526 Fifty-six minutes. Tick-tock, Doc. 784 00:46:45,403 --> 00:46:46,654 Let's go. 785 00:47:34,535 --> 00:47:35,870 Guy LaForge. 786 00:47:36,704 --> 00:47:38,831 He isn't a boyfriend, is he? 787 00:47:40,416 --> 00:47:44,003 The only thing that got me out of West Texas was my book smarts, 788 00:47:45,129 --> 00:47:48,549 and when I left for college, I had that. But I didn't have much else. 789 00:47:48,633 --> 00:47:52,261 So I tried to fit in. I drank too much, 790 00:47:53,721 --> 00:47:55,515 thought too little. 791 00:47:56,307 --> 00:47:58,017 And I met Guy. 792 00:48:01,312 --> 00:48:06,442 And he was this English working class rock star wannabe, 793 00:48:06,526 --> 00:48:08,236 and I fell for him. 794 00:48:09,695 --> 00:48:12,949 And I married him when I graduated. 795 00:48:14,617 --> 00:48:18,955 He didn't take too well to my aspirations for higher education. 796 00:48:19,038 --> 00:48:21,290 In fact, he didn't really want me to leave the house. 797 00:48:21,374 --> 00:48:24,210 And when I disobeyed, he got filthy drunk 798 00:48:24,293 --> 00:48:26,337 and he beat me black and blue. 799 00:48:26,420 --> 00:48:29,006 That's when he got arrested and I divorced him. 800 00:48:29,090 --> 00:48:32,301 I've been trying to make up for lost time ever since. 801 00:48:37,431 --> 00:48:39,475 You know, Forster's trying to kill me. 802 00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:40,893 Forster's in prison. 803 00:48:40,977 --> 00:48:45,857 Yeah, I know. He's got somebody on the outside trying to do the job. 804 00:48:49,235 --> 00:48:50,987 He's gonna kill me. 805 00:48:52,488 --> 00:48:54,490 If I don't get him first. 806 00:48:59,912 --> 00:49:04,041 Whoever is working with Forster must be close to you, a friend even. 807 00:49:04,125 --> 00:49:05,626 I don't have many friends. 808 00:49:05,710 --> 00:49:07,128 (LAUGHING) Now, that's a plus. 809 00:49:07,211 --> 00:49:10,631 Yeah, it's a real pleasure to look at everyone you know as your would-be murderer. 810 00:49:10,715 --> 00:49:13,426 Paranoia is a normal state of mind, huh? 811 00:49:14,969 --> 00:49:16,137 Where's Earl? 812 00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:19,098 I don't know. I'm a temp. The agency sent me. 813 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:20,975 Dr. Gramm? 814 00:49:21,726 --> 00:49:23,769 There's a package for you. 815 00:49:26,898 --> 00:49:28,482 How did you know my name? 816 00:49:28,566 --> 00:49:30,776 I don't. It was a question. 817 00:49:32,695 --> 00:49:33,863 Yeah? 818 00:49:34,780 --> 00:49:36,199 There's no return address on this? 819 00:49:36,282 --> 00:49:37,575 No. 820 00:49:38,784 --> 00:49:40,203 Well, who delivered it? 821 00:49:40,286 --> 00:49:41,704 A courier. 822 00:49:41,787 --> 00:49:44,832 But there was another person here at the same time looking for you. 823 00:49:44,916 --> 00:49:46,751 Who? What was his name? 824 00:49:46,834 --> 00:49:48,377 No, I didn't get it. 825 00:49:48,461 --> 00:49:51,047 Well, he walked in when I was on the phone with the plumber. 826 00:49:51,130 --> 00:49:53,299 He said he'd be right back. 827 00:49:55,176 --> 00:49:56,177 Okay. 828 00:49:56,260 --> 00:49:57,887 You want me to pull surveillance tapes for you? 829 00:49:57,970 --> 00:50:01,474 It shouldn't take more than an hour to get somebody up here with the keys. 830 00:50:02,767 --> 00:50:04,644 No? I don't have an hour. 831 00:50:04,727 --> 00:50:09,607 Hey, you know, he was also wearing leathers. He had a motorcycle helmet. 832 00:50:09,690 --> 00:50:11,943 That's Guy. He was here. 833 00:50:13,527 --> 00:50:17,198 If he comes back, don't send him up to my apartment. 834 00:50:17,281 --> 00:50:18,532 Yeah. 835 00:50:19,408 --> 00:50:21,202 Hi, Dr. Gramm. Hi, Hilda. 836 00:50:30,294 --> 00:50:32,421 KIM: How did Guy know you were going to be here? 837 00:50:32,505 --> 00:50:34,674 How does he even know where you live? 838 00:50:34,757 --> 00:50:36,717 Oh, Walther P99. 839 00:50:36,801 --> 00:50:39,095 That'll blow a hole through any theory. 840 00:50:40,763 --> 00:50:43,182 What? I grew up around guns. 841 00:50:43,266 --> 00:50:47,270 Maybe he didn't know I was gonna be here, maybe that's why he showed up. 842 00:50:47,353 --> 00:50:51,023 I better find out where he went after the party last night. 843 00:50:51,691 --> 00:50:54,443 There's a Lauren Douglas to see you. Should I send her up? 844 00:50:54,527 --> 00:50:56,487 Okay, send her up. 845 00:50:59,532 --> 00:51:01,784 He got that right, didn't he? 846 00:51:01,867 --> 00:51:03,494 Hey, what's that? 847 00:51:03,869 --> 00:51:05,663 This? Yeah. 848 00:51:05,746 --> 00:51:07,707 It's a chemical detector. 849 00:51:08,124 --> 00:51:09,792 It sniffs out vapors. 850 00:51:09,875 --> 00:51:11,711 Customs agents use them. 851 00:51:12,878 --> 00:51:13,963 And? 852 00:51:19,844 --> 00:51:21,220 Not a bomb. 853 00:51:21,721 --> 00:51:23,014 That's good. 854 00:51:23,431 --> 00:51:24,557 Yeah. 855 00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:27,893 (ELEVATOR BELL DINGS) 856 00:51:36,819 --> 00:51:37,945 Hi. 857 00:51:38,029 --> 00:51:39,196 You're okay? 858 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,906 Yeah. I'm better, thank you. 859 00:51:43,826 --> 00:51:45,161 What do you have? 860 00:51:45,244 --> 00:51:46,495 I went to see Shelly like you said, 861 00:51:46,579 --> 00:51:50,082 and she tried to fax you Over some papers, but the machine was down. 862 00:51:50,166 --> 00:51:53,753 So I said I'd bring the risk assessment profiles over myself. 863 00:51:54,420 --> 00:51:56,422 I didn't know you had company. 864 00:51:57,173 --> 00:52:00,092 Dale told me how good you were with her when her dad died. 865 00:52:01,093 --> 00:52:02,762 She was so grateful. 866 00:52:04,347 --> 00:52:05,598 Dr. Gramm? 867 00:52:05,931 --> 00:52:07,224 Yeah? 868 00:52:07,308 --> 00:52:09,894 If there's anything I can do to help you find Dale's murderer, 869 00:52:09,977 --> 00:52:11,103 will you let me know? 870 00:52:11,187 --> 00:52:14,523 Of course, yes. Thank you. 871 00:52:16,192 --> 00:52:19,028 Can I call you a cab or something? 872 00:52:19,111 --> 00:52:21,864 No, Mike's gonna give me a ride. Okay. 873 00:52:21,947 --> 00:52:23,157 Thanks for these, Lauren. 874 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:24,325 Bye. 875 00:52:28,704 --> 00:52:30,915 All those people have threatened you? 876 00:52:30,998 --> 00:52:34,543 Well, you know, it comes with the territory. 877 00:52:34,627 --> 00:52:36,962 How come you never mention that in class? 878 00:52:38,214 --> 00:52:41,675 How many students wind up going into this field anyway? 879 00:52:42,343 --> 00:52:45,346 Not very many, with you booting all of them. 880 00:52:46,806 --> 00:52:47,932 Yeah. 881 00:52:56,357 --> 00:52:58,567 Can I ask you a personal question? 882 00:52:58,651 --> 00:52:59,819 No. 883 00:53:01,028 --> 00:53:02,988 How come you never got married? 884 00:53:03,072 --> 00:53:05,157 I mean, you're a pretty good prospect. 885 00:53:05,825 --> 00:53:07,368 You obviously make a shitload of money. 886 00:53:07,451 --> 00:53:11,414 Why would I get married? I mean, I'm a target for any nut with a grudge. 887 00:53:13,332 --> 00:53:15,459 I can't afford emotional attachments. 888 00:53:15,543 --> 00:53:19,255 Yeah, but don't you want kids? Don't you want a family? 889 00:53:19,338 --> 00:53:21,257 I'm too old for kids. 890 00:53:24,009 --> 00:53:26,345 You're too young for me, Kim. 891 00:53:33,144 --> 00:53:35,062 (STATIC ON TAPE RECORDING) 892 00:53:39,191 --> 00:53:40,776 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 893 00:53:40,860 --> 00:53:42,653 Yeah. Jack, it's Shelly. 894 00:53:42,736 --> 00:53:44,238 What the hell happened to you? Where you been? 895 00:53:44,321 --> 00:53:47,408 Making calls for you on four lines simultaneously. The fax is down. 896 00:53:47,491 --> 00:53:49,952 I know, Lauren Douglas came over and brought some papers with her. 897 00:53:50,035 --> 00:53:51,537 Jack, you better turn on MSNBC. 898 00:53:51,620 --> 00:53:52,621 Why? 899 00:53:52,705 --> 00:53:55,458 Forster got a judge to grant his request for an interview. 900 00:53:55,541 --> 00:53:56,750 He's on live. 901 00:53:56,834 --> 00:54:00,504 This is gonna heat things up with the state pending, don't you think? 902 00:54:00,963 --> 00:54:02,798 (MAN CHATTERING ON TV) 903 00:54:05,134 --> 00:54:06,510 Shelly, listen to me. 904 00:54:06,594 --> 00:54:09,972 I want you to send some of the boys over to my apartment, all right? 905 00:54:10,055 --> 00:54:14,602 There may be someone down in my lobby in biker leathers when they get there, okay? 906 00:54:15,144 --> 00:54:16,395 SHELLY: You got a name? 907 00:54:16,479 --> 00:54:18,063 Yes, his name is Guy LaForge. 908 00:54:18,856 --> 00:54:21,901 Put a photo out on the FBI wire, okay? 909 00:54:23,235 --> 00:54:25,488 INTERVIEWER: If you're not granted another stay of execution, 910 00:54:25,571 --> 00:54:27,072 are you prepared to die? 911 00:54:27,156 --> 00:54:28,282 You want me to call the police? 912 00:54:28,365 --> 00:54:30,993 No, no, let Frank handle it. He'll know what to do. 913 00:54:31,076 --> 00:54:33,370 I mean, as prepared as a man can be for something that he didn't do. 914 00:54:33,454 --> 00:54:38,083 Listen, you didn't messenger over a package to my apartment, did you? 915 00:54:38,167 --> 00:54:39,293 No. 916 00:54:39,502 --> 00:54:41,837 There's a lot of people out there that believe in your innocence. 917 00:54:41,921 --> 00:54:43,005 And I'm grateful. 918 00:54:43,088 --> 00:54:44,757 You know anyone who might have? SHELLY: No. 919 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,342 Thankful for their prayers... 920 00:54:46,425 --> 00:54:47,801 SHELLY: Everything goes through your office. 921 00:54:47,885 --> 00:54:48,886 ...and support. 922 00:54:48,969 --> 00:54:50,930 What about Sara Pollard? You find anything out? 923 00:54:51,764 --> 00:54:53,307 You didn't actually pay her, did you, Jack? 924 00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:54,683 Pay her, what do you mean? 925 00:54:54,767 --> 00:54:56,018 She works for an escort service. 926 00:54:56,101 --> 00:54:57,937 Escort service? 927 00:54:58,020 --> 00:54:59,605 You didn't know? 928 00:55:00,523 --> 00:55:01,982 No, I didn't know. 929 00:55:03,776 --> 00:55:07,863 What? I mean, she told me she was a lawyer. A student lawyer. 930 00:55:07,947 --> 00:55:09,990 INTERVIEWER: What are your thoughts at this time? 931 00:55:10,074 --> 00:55:12,868 JON: Well, Stephanie, that's one thing I don't have a lot of... 932 00:55:12,952 --> 00:55:14,954 You got a number for her? 933 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,373 SHELLY: Yeah, a phone number and address. 934 00:55:17,456 --> 00:55:20,709 Well, I know the address. Let me have the number. 935 00:55:20,793 --> 00:55:22,044 INTERVIEWER: If Dr. Gramm were with us right now, 936 00:55:22,127 --> 00:55:23,170 what would you say to him? 937 00:55:23,254 --> 00:55:26,006 SHELLY: 555-1352. 938 00:55:26,090 --> 00:55:28,551 JON: Well, he knows that I didn't do this. 939 00:55:28,634 --> 00:55:29,718 There's only one... Thanks. 940 00:55:29,802 --> 00:55:32,972 ...other person in this world who knows that I've been framed, 941 00:55:33,055 --> 00:55:36,225 been railroaded, set up, 942 00:55:36,308 --> 00:55:38,727 that I am totally innocent. 943 00:55:38,811 --> 00:55:42,940 And that is renowned forensic psychiatrist, Dr. Jack Gramm. 944 00:55:43,816 --> 00:55:47,069 So if you asked me what would I say to Jack Gramm? I'd say, "Why me?” 945 00:55:48,946 --> 00:55:52,366 I mean, I understand you suffered a great loss with your sister. 946 00:55:52,449 --> 00:55:54,952 I feel your pain, Dr. Gramm. 947 00:55:55,035 --> 00:55:56,161 Pick up, damn it. 948 00:55:56,245 --> 00:55:58,914 But that does not exonerate you from falsely accusing me of things 949 00:55:58,998 --> 00:56:01,750 that you know that I did not, could not have done. 950 00:56:01,834 --> 00:56:03,544 Pick up, Sara. 951 00:56:03,627 --> 00:56:06,255 I mean, if I can be convicted of this voodoo forensic science, 952 00:56:06,338 --> 00:56:07,965 think about it who's safe? 953 00:56:11,093 --> 00:56:12,928 Shelly? Shelly? 954 00:56:13,012 --> 00:56:16,390 I want you to get me MSNBC. | want to talk to that son of bitch. 955 00:56:16,473 --> 00:56:17,891 ...nor will I be the last. 956 00:56:17,975 --> 00:56:19,685 Jack, I really don't think that's a good idea. 957 00:56:19,768 --> 00:56:23,439 It's a good idea. Just get him, and when you get him, call me back. Okay? 958 00:56:23,522 --> 00:56:26,900 But I find it hard to believe that Dr. Jack Gramm can be out there, 959 00:56:26,984 --> 00:56:30,070 psycho-babbling innocent people into the death chamber. 960 00:56:30,154 --> 00:56:31,113 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 961 00:56:31,196 --> 00:56:33,365 Who's the murderer now, Jack? 962 00:56:33,991 --> 00:56:35,075 Yeah? 963 00:56:35,409 --> 00:56:36,994 Who's the murderer now? 964 00:56:37,077 --> 00:56:38,203 FRANK: Jack? 965 00:56:38,871 --> 00:56:41,248 Yeah, we got D'Franco in custody. 966 00:56:41,332 --> 00:56:42,875 I got the warrant. 967 00:56:42,958 --> 00:56:45,169 The guys are on their way over to his place right now. 968 00:56:45,252 --> 00:56:47,296 Did he say anything about Forster? 969 00:56:47,379 --> 00:56:49,673 Quite a bit, but nothing useful. 970 00:56:49,757 --> 00:56:51,300 What about Guy LaForge? 971 00:56:51,383 --> 00:56:54,511 He hasn't checked in with his parole officer in six weeks. 972 00:56:54,595 --> 00:56:57,973 Well, he was at my apartment building less than an hour ago, 973 00:56:58,057 --> 00:57:00,225 and he said he's coming back. 974 00:57:00,768 --> 00:57:06,940 Listen, Frank. I got a call a little while ago saying I have 88 minutes to live. 975 00:57:07,399 --> 00:57:09,777 Jesus, Jack. Why 88 minutes? 976 00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:16,867 I don't know. 977 00:57:18,077 --> 00:57:20,621 You got any idea who this caller is? 978 00:57:23,123 --> 00:57:27,795 You better find Guy LaForge before he gets here, okay? 979 00:57:27,878 --> 00:57:29,755 Listen, let me call you back. 980 00:57:30,005 --> 00:57:31,757 Jack? 981 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,925 Shit. 982 00:57:44,687 --> 00:57:46,438 (STATIC ON TAPE RECORDING) 983 00:57:50,442 --> 00:57:53,362 KATE: Mom? Dad? 984 00:57:53,445 --> 00:57:54,655 Jack? 985 00:57:55,614 --> 00:57:58,951 There's someone here. And he wants to talk to you. 986 00:57:59,785 --> 00:58:03,372 Where are you? Please come home quickly! 987 00:58:03,455 --> 00:58:05,165 I'm scared of the man. 988 00:58:05,791 --> 00:58:07,668 Is that what you wanted me to say? 989 00:58:07,751 --> 00:58:08,794 (LOUD CLATTERING) 990 00:58:08,877 --> 00:58:12,673 Jack, come here now! Help me! Help me! 991 00:58:13,382 --> 00:58:15,426 (KATE SCREAMING) 992 00:58:25,602 --> 00:58:27,479 Jack, what is that? 993 00:58:28,814 --> 00:58:30,190 My sister. 994 00:58:31,024 --> 00:58:32,484 Oh, my God. 995 00:58:33,986 --> 00:58:36,905 That's horrible. Who would send that to you? 996 00:58:39,491 --> 00:58:42,119 There's only two copies of this tape in the world. 997 00:58:42,202 --> 00:58:43,412 One is 998 00:58:44,121 --> 00:58:48,500 locked up in the custody of the NYPD. And the other 999 00:58:50,627 --> 00:58:55,716 is in a restricted access room in my office file cabinet 1000 00:58:57,634 --> 00:59:00,137 with the highest security measures. 1001 00:59:00,220 --> 00:59:02,264 So you think it was stolen? 1002 00:59:02,347 --> 00:59:04,224 Of course it was stolen. 1003 00:59:11,565 --> 00:59:13,358 Do you think I stole it? 1004 00:59:14,693 --> 00:59:16,278 You think I stole it? 1005 00:59:16,361 --> 00:59:18,280 You left the bar last night with Dale. 1006 00:59:18,363 --> 00:59:21,992 You were one of the last people to see her alive. Maybe the last. 1007 00:59:22,075 --> 00:59:26,288 Jack, you think I stole the tape and killed Dale? 1008 00:59:26,371 --> 00:59:27,956 Have you lost your mind? 1009 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,876 I don't have clearance to your restricted access room. 1010 00:59:30,959 --> 00:59:33,170 Why was Guy LaForge at the bar last night? 1011 00:59:35,088 --> 00:59:37,382 KIM: He was trying to protect me. 1012 00:59:37,466 --> 00:59:38,884 JACK: From what? 1013 00:59:40,093 --> 00:59:41,136 From you. 1014 00:59:41,220 --> 00:59:42,679 From me? He knows about me? 1015 00:59:42,805 --> 00:59:44,640 Yes. What does he know about me? 1016 00:59:44,723 --> 00:59:47,392 He knows I have a silly girlish crush on you. 1017 00:59:49,019 --> 00:59:53,649 Jack, hold on a second. I just got an email back from Mike Stempt, okay? 1018 00:59:53,732 --> 00:59:56,568 He saw Guy at Darby's Club last night. 1019 00:59:56,652 --> 00:59:59,154 When Mike left at 3:00 a.m., Guy was still sitting there, 1020 00:59:59,238 --> 01:00:01,698 and the bouncer booted him at 6:00 a.m. 1021 01:00:01,782 --> 01:00:05,077 So there's no way that Guy could have killed Dale Morris. 1022 01:00:06,078 --> 01:00:07,788 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1023 01:00:13,460 --> 01:00:14,503 Yeah? 1024 01:00:14,586 --> 01:00:16,171 DISTORTED VOICE: Did you listen to the tape, Dr. Gramm? 1025 01:00:16,255 --> 01:00:18,257 Why'd you leave little Katie all alone? 1026 01:00:18,841 --> 01:00:20,384 Why, Dr. Gramm? 1027 01:00:20,467 --> 01:00:24,638 She'd still be alive today, if you hadn't left her all alone to die. 1028 01:00:25,973 --> 01:00:30,018 Now it's your turn. In a blaze of glory. 1029 01:00:30,102 --> 01:00:32,771 Tick-tock, Doc. Thirty-seven minutes. 1030 01:00:40,946 --> 01:00:42,364 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1031 01:00:46,285 --> 01:00:47,286 Yeah? 1032 01:00:47,369 --> 01:00:49,079 Hey, Jack, I got MSNBC on the line. 1033 01:00:49,162 --> 01:00:50,706 They'll patch you through to the prison. 1034 01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:52,249 You sure you wanna do this? 1035 01:00:52,332 --> 01:00:58,380 Shelly, there's been a breach in my place in my most secure area. 1036 01:00:59,131 --> 01:01:02,759 Did you ever give anyone clearance to go into my secure files? 1037 01:01:02,843 --> 01:01:04,094 Jack, what are you saying? 1038 01:01:04,177 --> 01:01:09,933 Did you ever let an unauthorized person into my secure files area? 1039 01:01:10,017 --> 01:01:13,520 No, never. To anyone. Ever. 1040 01:01:14,021 --> 01:01:15,188 Okay. 1041 01:01:16,148 --> 01:01:18,358 Put me through to MSNBC. 1042 01:01:20,444 --> 01:01:21,904 (DIALING) 1043 01:01:24,364 --> 01:01:26,408 Frank? Yeah. 1044 01:01:26,491 --> 01:01:28,994 Yeah, you'd better turn on MSNBC. 1045 01:01:29,077 --> 01:01:31,622 They've granted Forster a live interview. 1046 01:01:32,623 --> 01:01:34,249 I can't, Jack, I'm in the car. 1047 01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:39,087 JACK: It's all right, they simulcast. You can just turn on 750 AM. 1048 01:01:39,171 --> 01:01:40,631 I'm phoning in. 1049 01:01:40,714 --> 01:01:43,759 Now, wait a second. You think that's such a good idea, with all the court actions? 1050 01:01:43,842 --> 01:01:45,093 I think he's behind everything. 1051 01:01:45,177 --> 01:01:47,137 I think he's behind the phone calls and the threats. 1052 01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:50,265 I'm gonna try to get inside his head. Make him crack. 1053 01:01:50,349 --> 01:01:52,517 Okay? You wanna stay on the line, please? 1054 01:01:53,518 --> 01:01:54,895 WOMAN: Dr. Gramm? Yeah. 1055 01:01:54,978 --> 01:01:56,188 You're on the air. Good. 1056 01:01:56,271 --> 01:01:59,775 I'm being told that we have Dr. Jack Gramm joining us by phone. 1057 01:01:59,858 --> 01:02:01,109 Dr. Gramm, are you there? 1058 01:02:01,193 --> 01:02:02,235 I'm here. 1059 01:02:02,319 --> 01:02:03,946 Have you been watching the interview? 1060 01:02:04,029 --> 01:02:05,364 Is that what you call it? 1061 01:02:05,447 --> 01:02:06,573 What would you call it? 1062 01:02:06,657 --> 01:02:09,117 I don't know, I don't call it an interview. I'd call it entertainment. 1063 01:02:09,201 --> 01:02:11,119 I call it a performance, maybe. 1064 01:02:11,203 --> 01:02:13,580 Well, you must have something to say, or you wouldn't have called in. 1065 01:02:13,664 --> 01:02:16,625 Yeah, I think it's very interesting that Forster talks about forgiveness. 1066 01:02:16,708 --> 01:02:20,587 I mean, I just want him to know that his victims have not forgiven him. 1067 01:02:20,671 --> 01:02:22,673 Look, you lied under oath, Dr. Gramm, and you know it. 1068 01:02:22,756 --> 01:02:23,840 This is not about me. 1069 01:02:23,924 --> 01:02:27,761 This is about the women you raped and tortured and murdered. 1070 01:02:27,844 --> 01:02:29,846 Women like Joanie Cates. 1071 01:02:29,930 --> 01:02:31,223 I had nothing to do with her death and you know it. 1072 01:02:31,306 --> 01:02:32,849 Nothing to do with her death? 1073 01:02:32,933 --> 01:02:36,561 There was an eyewitness, her twin sister, who identified you. 1074 01:02:36,645 --> 01:02:38,355 She was at the scene and identified you! 1075 01:02:38,438 --> 01:02:40,315 She was drugged and beaten so badly, 1076 01:02:40,399 --> 01:02:42,317 she said that she couldn't be sure, but you... 1077 01:02:42,401 --> 01:02:44,403 You berated her until she said it was me. 1078 01:02:44,486 --> 01:02:45,988 Interesting you didn't say you were innocent. 1079 01:02:46,071 --> 01:02:47,406 I had nothing to do with the death and you know it. 1080 01:02:47,489 --> 01:02:49,032 No, I don't. I know you were convicted. 1081 01:02:49,116 --> 01:02:50,867 I know you were convicted by a jury. 1082 01:02:50,951 --> 01:02:52,953 You were tried and convicted, that's what I know. 1083 01:02:53,036 --> 01:02:54,871 Tried? That wasn't a trial, that was an inquisition, 1084 01:02:54,955 --> 01:02:56,331 and the jury believed your lies. 1085 01:02:56,415 --> 01:03:00,502 You had to cause pain and suffering and death, just so you could feel alive. 1086 01:03:00,585 --> 01:03:03,922 Wait a second. Pain and suffering is something you forensics know how to inflict. 1087 01:03:04,006 --> 01:03:08,218 I mean, even your idol, Ted Bundy, ultimately, identified his victims. 1088 01:03:08,301 --> 01:03:12,014 How about it, man? Identify your victims. How about it? 1089 01:03:12,097 --> 01:03:15,100 The bodies of Terry Hines, Alicia Smith, 1090 01:03:15,183 --> 01:03:17,602 Samantha Greene. Where are they, man? 1091 01:03:17,686 --> 01:03:21,481 Come on, where are they? Give these people's families closure, man! 1092 01:03:21,565 --> 01:03:24,359 Give them closure. You're on national television now! 1093 01:03:24,443 --> 01:03:26,528 Millions of people are watching you. Come on! 1094 01:03:26,611 --> 01:03:29,865 How about your colleague in London, in the Clark case, huh? 1095 01:03:29,948 --> 01:03:32,743 Putting away an innocent mother for murdering her baby? Well done! 1096 01:03:32,826 --> 01:03:33,994 (JON CLAPS HANDS) 1097 01:03:34,077 --> 01:03:38,123 Well done, Doctor. You must be so proud to be part of such an elite fraternity. 1098 01:03:38,206 --> 01:03:40,208 Fortunately for her, her conviction was overturned 1099 01:03:40,292 --> 01:03:43,754 when the doctor's testimony turned out to be patently absurd. 1100 01:03:43,837 --> 01:03:46,840 Quack, quack, Dr. Gramm. You know what? 1101 01:03:46,923 --> 01:03:50,635 Why don't you take a good look at your watch? A good look. 1102 01:03:51,553 --> 01:03:55,682 Now, imagine what it would be like to be minutes away from your own death. 1103 01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,646 To hear the ticking of a clock and know that your time on Earth is drawing to a close. 1104 01:04:02,898 --> 01:04:04,232 Thank you. 1105 01:04:05,859 --> 01:04:09,571 RECEPTIONIST: There's another package for you, Dr. Gramm. Should I send it up? 1106 01:04:09,654 --> 01:04:13,075 This, just in. A three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit 1107 01:04:13,158 --> 01:04:16,536 has just granted Jon Forster a stay of execution. 1108 01:04:18,538 --> 01:04:19,664 What? 1109 01:04:22,709 --> 01:04:24,336 Are you serious? 1110 01:04:29,257 --> 01:04:30,592 You hear that, Frank? 1111 01:04:30,675 --> 01:04:34,096 Yeah, I heard. Forster got the stay. 1112 01:04:34,179 --> 01:04:37,140 I got him going, though, didn't 1? No cigar. 1113 01:04:37,808 --> 01:04:40,560 Why did you send me on a wild goose chase, Jack? 1114 01:04:40,644 --> 01:04:42,020 What do you mean, wild goose chase? 1115 01:04:42,104 --> 01:04:45,065 D'Franco, he's not a serial killer. He's a serial groupie. 1116 01:04:45,148 --> 01:04:47,234 So he's a groupie, so what? What's the big deal? 1117 01:04:47,317 --> 01:04:50,445 I just got a call from Jeremy Guber from the Attorney General's office. 1118 01:04:50,529 --> 01:04:53,365 You're wanted for questioning in the murder of Dale Morris. 1119 01:04:53,448 --> 01:04:55,992 What? What are you talking about? 1120 01:04:56,076 --> 01:04:59,746 They've found physical evidence at her apartment that implicates you, Jack. 1121 01:04:59,830 --> 01:05:00,914 What evidence? 1122 01:05:00,997 --> 01:05:03,792 Jack, you know I can't say. 1123 01:05:04,292 --> 01:05:07,045 What do you mean, you can't say? What does that mean? 1124 01:05:07,587 --> 01:05:08,713 Frank? 1125 01:05:08,797 --> 01:05:10,132 RECEPTIONIST: There's someone to see you, Dr. Gramm. 1126 01:05:10,215 --> 01:05:12,592 Hey, mister, you can't go up there. 1127 01:05:13,051 --> 01:05:14,678 You told the doorman not to let anyone up. 1128 01:05:14,761 --> 01:05:17,222 It's all right, don't worry. Don't worry, no one's getting in. 1129 01:05:17,305 --> 01:05:18,306 (BEEPING) 1130 01:05:25,313 --> 01:05:28,525 The State Attorney General has just announced that he is appealing the stay 1131 01:05:28,608 --> 01:05:30,819 to the State Supreme Court immediately. 1132 01:05:30,902 --> 01:05:31,987 Jack, look. 1133 01:05:32,070 --> 01:05:34,990 We'll keep you informed of further developments. 1134 01:05:35,073 --> 01:05:36,575 (KNOCKING) 1135 01:05:45,709 --> 01:05:46,918 JACK: It's your boyfriend. 1136 01:05:47,002 --> 01:05:48,670 GUY: Let Kim go. 1137 01:05:48,753 --> 01:05:50,672 I know this man and I know he's not gonna hurt me. 1138 01:05:50,755 --> 01:05:52,090 I have to open the door. 1139 01:05:52,174 --> 01:05:53,842 Well, do it quick 'cause we're smoking up here. 1140 01:05:53,925 --> 01:05:55,135 GUY: Kim! 1141 01:05:56,761 --> 01:06:00,932 Guy, there's no problem here. Put down the gun. I'm fine. 1142 01:06:01,016 --> 01:06:02,225 (GUN FIRES) 1143 01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:03,310 (SCREAMS) 1144 01:06:04,561 --> 01:06:06,771 Guy's been shot, no! 1145 01:06:15,780 --> 01:06:19,743 On the roof, there's a fire escape, okay? When I say go, follow me. 1146 01:06:19,826 --> 01:06:21,119 Okay. 1147 01:06:21,369 --> 01:06:23,163 (GUN FIRING CONTINUES) 1148 01:06:28,126 --> 01:06:29,878 (SIRENS WAILING) 1149 01:06:39,304 --> 01:06:41,014 Do you think he's dead? 1150 01:06:41,097 --> 01:06:42,724 I don't know. It doesn't look good. 1151 01:06:42,807 --> 01:06:45,101 We should go back up there. 1152 01:06:45,185 --> 01:06:47,437 I gotta go back up there and help him. 1153 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,856 No, you can't go up there. Man. 1154 01:06:49,940 --> 01:06:51,483 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1155 01:06:51,566 --> 01:06:53,401 Yeah? SHELLY: Jack, I need to talk to you. 1156 01:06:53,485 --> 01:06:55,695 I need a few minutes to clarify something. 1157 01:06:55,779 --> 01:06:57,322 Shelly, I can't talk now. 1158 01:06:57,405 --> 01:06:59,991 I'll talk to you when I get to Sara Pollard's apartment. 1159 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,411 (COUGHING) 1160 01:07:03,495 --> 01:07:05,830 Mrs. Lowinsky. You okay? 1161 01:07:05,914 --> 01:07:07,207 I'm just a little dizzy. 1162 01:07:07,290 --> 01:07:08,500 Okay. 1163 01:07:09,876 --> 01:07:11,544 (MRS. LOWINSKY COUGHING) 1164 01:07:11,628 --> 01:07:14,422 We found the source. We got an incendiary device with a timer. 1165 01:07:14,506 --> 01:07:18,051 Get a bomb squad in there in case there's a second one. Go. 1166 01:07:18,134 --> 01:07:19,636 (COUGHING) 1167 01:07:20,637 --> 01:07:21,805 Get her some oxygen. 1168 01:07:21,888 --> 01:07:23,014 All right. We got her, sir. 1169 01:07:23,098 --> 01:07:24,391 Let's get her outside. 1170 01:07:24,474 --> 01:07:26,518 Easy, ma'am, you're gonna be all right. 1171 01:07:33,233 --> 01:07:35,735 Jack, I don't see the shooter out here, do you? 1172 01:07:37,153 --> 01:07:38,947 Jack... He's got a gun! 1173 01:07:39,030 --> 01:07:40,490 WOMAN: Where? 1174 01:07:40,573 --> 01:07:42,659 JACK: Where the hell is he? Where? 1175 01:07:42,742 --> 01:07:43,952 Jack! 1176 01:07:44,035 --> 01:07:45,495 MAN: Get down! 1177 01:07:50,709 --> 01:07:51,960 Kim! MAN: Keep moving! 1178 01:07:52,043 --> 01:07:53,670 Kim, where are you? 1179 01:07:55,547 --> 01:07:57,215 (FIRE ENGINE HONKING) 1180 01:08:01,469 --> 01:08:03,221 (FIRE ENGINE HONKING) 1181 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,898 MAN: Go, go, go! People, get back! 1182 01:08:13,982 --> 01:08:14,983 Are you okay? 1183 01:08:15,066 --> 01:08:17,110 Yeah, I'm gonna live. 1184 01:08:17,902 --> 01:08:19,696 Here, let's go. 1185 01:08:19,779 --> 01:08:21,531 Where are we going? 1186 01:08:22,115 --> 01:08:23,700 Sara Pollard's house. 1187 01:08:23,783 --> 01:08:25,410 The girl I was with last night. 1188 01:08:27,412 --> 01:08:29,581 That's funny. It worked in the garage. 1189 01:08:35,045 --> 01:08:36,463 Why did you do that? 1190 01:08:36,546 --> 01:08:38,256 I don't know. I had a feeling... 1191 01:08:56,941 --> 01:08:58,234 JACK: You okay? 1192 01:09:02,322 --> 01:09:03,656 KIM: What next? 1193 01:09:04,908 --> 01:09:06,368 I don't know. 1194 01:09:10,747 --> 01:09:11,956 Okay, let's get out of here. 1195 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,291 Okay. 1196 01:09:19,964 --> 01:09:21,883 That your cab, driver? Yeah. 1197 01:09:21,966 --> 01:09:26,388 Okay. I'll give you 100 bucks, you let me drive it. I'm just going across town. 1198 01:09:26,471 --> 01:09:27,722 Hundred bucks? 1199 01:09:27,806 --> 01:09:30,642 Hundred bucks plus tip. How's that? 1200 01:09:31,267 --> 01:09:32,352 All right. 1201 01:09:45,615 --> 01:09:47,325 KIM: I cannot believe it. 1202 01:09:48,493 --> 01:09:51,830 Guy's dead. He is. He's dead. 1203 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,208 Shit. 1204 01:10:00,672 --> 01:10:02,424 You have nothing to say, huh? 1205 01:10:02,507 --> 01:10:04,884 It's just another day in the life of Jack Gramm. 1206 01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:07,762 (GROANING) 1207 01:10:07,846 --> 01:10:12,058 KIM: Was I actually fooling myself into thinking I could have a relationship with you? 1208 01:10:14,227 --> 01:10:17,021 I'm a doctoral student in behavioral science, for God's sake. 1209 01:10:17,105 --> 01:10:19,566 I ought to have enough common sense to figure this out. 1210 01:10:19,649 --> 01:10:21,776 I mean, what was I thinking? 1211 01:10:40,545 --> 01:10:41,713 Okay. 1212 01:10:43,131 --> 01:10:45,592 Would you wait outside the cab for a minute? 1213 01:10:46,843 --> 01:10:48,470 You bet. Thanks. 1214 01:10:53,475 --> 01:10:55,435 You asked me about my kid sister. 1215 01:10:55,518 --> 01:10:57,896 Okay. It was a long time ago. 1216 01:10:57,979 --> 01:11:00,398 She was staying at my apartment in New York City. 1217 01:11:00,482 --> 01:11:02,275 She was 12, I was 28. 1218 01:11:03,234 --> 01:11:06,613 And I was late for a meeting, a very important meeting, 1219 01:11:06,696 --> 01:11:08,490 a meeting that was gonna change my life. 1220 01:11:08,573 --> 01:11:11,576 It was gonna make me into somebody important, 1221 01:11:12,744 --> 01:11:14,454 make all my dreams come true. 1222 01:11:14,537 --> 01:11:18,333 So I went to this meeting on my dissertation, 1223 01:11:18,416 --> 01:11:21,836 and I left her there by herself. 1224 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,546 Now I could have taken her with me, 1225 01:11:23,630 --> 01:11:25,048 I could have left her with friends, 1226 01:11:25,131 --> 01:11:28,259 I could have postponed the meeting. 1227 01:11:28,343 --> 01:11:31,179 But I chose not to, because I was in a hurry. 1228 01:11:31,262 --> 01:11:33,556 Anyway, I left her there alone. 1229 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,767 At the time, I was working on a case. 1230 01:11:36,518 --> 01:11:39,229 This guy had strangled six women. 1231 01:11:39,312 --> 01:11:41,773 We were very close to nailing him. 1232 01:11:43,066 --> 01:11:45,693 He was upset and he wanted to get back at me. 1233 01:11:45,777 --> 01:11:50,031 So he came to my apartment, only I wasn't there. 1234 01:11:50,114 --> 01:11:53,493 At that time, I wasn't as concerned with security. 1235 01:11:54,285 --> 01:11:56,579 I was careless, 1236 01:11:59,541 --> 01:12:02,877 so he broke the door down and he went in, 1237 01:12:04,837 --> 01:12:10,009 and did things to my baby sister. 1238 01:12:11,761 --> 01:12:15,098 Katherine was her name. Katie. 1239 01:12:16,474 --> 01:12:18,893 He did things that you wouldn't do 1240 01:12:18,977 --> 01:12:22,021 to an animal that was bred for slaughter. 1241 01:12:26,484 --> 01:12:27,819 Anyway, 1242 01:12:30,947 --> 01:12:34,867 when they caught him, he laughed, 1243 01:12:36,327 --> 01:12:37,662 and said 1244 01:12:38,997 --> 01:12:41,499 it took him 88 minutes. 1245 01:12:54,178 --> 01:12:57,348 It took him 88 minutes to hack my sister to bits. 1246 01:12:57,432 --> 01:12:58,641 Jack. 1247 01:13:01,519 --> 01:13:03,521 He is in prison now, 1248 01:13:06,691 --> 01:13:09,444 coming up for his fifth parole hearing. 1249 01:13:10,653 --> 01:13:12,488 I left New York. 1250 01:13:12,572 --> 01:13:16,492 Left all that behind me and came here to Seattle. 1251 01:13:16,576 --> 01:13:19,704 You know, it seemed the perfect place, 1252 01:13:20,830 --> 01:13:25,960 in some far-off corner of the continental USA, 1253 01:13:26,711 --> 01:13:29,589 to see if I have a second act in me. 1254 01:13:32,717 --> 01:13:35,261 Whoever stole that tape 1255 01:13:35,345 --> 01:13:37,680 knows the meaning of 88 minutes. 1256 01:13:43,519 --> 01:13:45,271 Is that enough? 1257 01:13:45,355 --> 01:13:46,689 (SNIFFLES) 1258 01:13:48,566 --> 01:13:50,151 Okay, let's go. 1259 01:13:59,577 --> 01:14:02,205 If Sara's not home, we don't have a search warrant. 1260 01:14:02,288 --> 01:14:03,498 Well, we don't need a search warrant. 1261 01:14:03,581 --> 01:14:04,791 We're not gonna arrest anybody. 1262 01:14:04,874 --> 01:14:06,584 We're just breaking and entering. 1263 01:14:11,506 --> 01:14:13,091 Not a good sign. 1264 01:14:16,427 --> 01:14:18,596 Don't say I never gave you anything. 1265 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,265 This looks familiar. When did you take it? 1266 01:14:22,016 --> 01:14:23,726 Guess it doesn't matter, does it? 1267 01:14:24,394 --> 01:14:26,020 It just might. 1268 01:14:30,108 --> 01:14:31,526 Okay, check it out. That way. 1269 01:14:31,609 --> 01:14:33,069 Okay. 1270 01:15:13,609 --> 01:15:15,153 Oh, Jesus. 1271 01:15:19,699 --> 01:15:21,159 What is it? 1272 01:15:22,785 --> 01:15:25,830 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 1273 01:15:26,330 --> 01:15:27,290 (KIM WHIMPERS) 1274 01:15:27,373 --> 01:15:29,250 Okay, Kim. Calm down. All right. 1275 01:15:29,333 --> 01:15:31,461 Oh, my God. She's dead. She's dead. 1276 01:15:32,879 --> 01:15:35,256 KIM: What kind of twisted mind could do that? 1277 01:15:35,339 --> 01:15:36,507 (KIM SOBBING) 1278 01:15:36,591 --> 01:15:38,468 Who could torture somebody like that? 1279 01:15:38,551 --> 01:15:40,428 Just breathe, just breathe, just breathe. 1280 01:15:40,511 --> 01:15:41,846 I'm all right. Okay. 1281 01:15:41,929 --> 01:15:43,890 Breathe, breathe. Breathe. 1282 01:15:43,973 --> 01:15:45,016 Oh, God. 1283 01:15:45,099 --> 01:15:47,268 Get control, get control. Okay. 1284 01:15:48,394 --> 01:15:50,104 KIM: I'm in control. 1285 01:15:50,188 --> 01:15:51,439 Okay, you're in control? 1286 01:15:51,522 --> 01:15:52,648 Yeah. 1287 01:15:52,732 --> 01:15:54,400 Okay, good. Let me show you something. 1288 01:15:54,484 --> 01:15:55,902 Okay. 1289 01:15:55,985 --> 01:15:57,779 That's my signature. 1290 01:15:58,905 --> 01:16:01,407 Forged. Credit card receipt. 1291 01:16:02,366 --> 01:16:04,952 This whole place is filled with my DNA. 1292 01:16:05,036 --> 01:16:08,289 Police are gonna come here, they're gonna know I was with Sara, 1293 01:16:08,372 --> 01:16:10,458 and they're gonna think I killed her. 1294 01:16:10,541 --> 01:16:11,709 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1295 01:16:11,793 --> 01:16:13,836 Your phone. Answer it. Yeah. 1296 01:16:16,964 --> 01:16:18,049 Yeah. 1297 01:16:18,633 --> 01:16:20,218 Jack? Carol? 1298 01:16:21,135 --> 01:16:22,345 Carol? 1299 01:16:22,428 --> 01:16:25,723 Did you hear the tape of your sister's 88 minutes of suffering? 1300 01:16:25,807 --> 01:16:27,934 I sent it to your apartment. 1301 01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:31,646 What are you saying, Carol? What is this? 1302 01:16:31,729 --> 01:16:33,898 The Porsche was a close call. 1303 01:16:34,899 --> 01:16:37,819 I called Frank and told him you murdered Sara after you killed Dale. 1304 01:16:40,613 --> 01:16:42,865 You thought you were so smart. 1305 01:16:42,949 --> 01:16:45,284 Invincible and unbeatable. 1306 01:16:45,368 --> 01:16:49,247 Jon Forster's given you a death sentence and he's about to be freed. 1307 01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:51,249 How ironic. 1308 01:16:52,625 --> 01:16:54,752 You've got 18 minutes left. 1309 01:16:55,378 --> 01:16:57,213 Meet me at your office alone. 1310 01:16:57,296 --> 01:16:58,631 Tick-tock. 1311 01:17:00,925 --> 01:17:02,260 What is it? 1312 01:17:02,343 --> 01:17:03,594 It's Carol. 1313 01:17:05,096 --> 01:17:08,015 She wants me to meet her at the university at my office. 1314 01:17:09,934 --> 01:17:11,519 Let's go. 1315 01:17:11,602 --> 01:17:13,354 Come on. Okay. 1316 01:17:31,163 --> 01:17:33,624 Shelly, what the hell are you doing here? 1317 01:17:34,542 --> 01:17:36,419 I need to talk to you. 1318 01:17:39,005 --> 01:17:42,466 That poor girl. That poor, poor girl. 1319 01:17:42,550 --> 01:17:44,719 (SHELLY GASPING) 1320 01:17:44,802 --> 01:17:46,512 It was me. Sit, sit. 1321 01:17:46,596 --> 01:17:48,973 It was me. Shelly. Just calm down. 1322 01:17:50,641 --> 01:17:53,436 I broke the security protocol. 1323 01:17:56,731 --> 01:17:57,815 Why? 1324 01:17:59,984 --> 01:18:01,819 Well, about six weeks ago, 1325 01:18:01,903 --> 01:18:06,616 I had a drink in your office with a student of yours. 1326 01:18:06,699 --> 01:18:08,075 A couple of drinks, actually. 1327 01:18:08,159 --> 01:18:11,954 And she made an advance, 1328 01:18:12,038 --> 01:18:14,415 and it was late, 1329 01:18:14,498 --> 01:18:18,002 but the office was jammed with people working still. 1330 01:18:19,378 --> 01:18:23,799 And when we woke up, she'd left. She didn't have a briefcase, 1331 01:18:23,883 --> 01:18:26,344 she had nothing that she could put the tape in, but... 1332 01:18:26,427 --> 01:18:29,430 But somebody else must have. Somebody else did. 1333 01:18:29,513 --> 01:18:31,265 While we were sleeping probably. 1334 01:18:31,349 --> 01:18:33,851 Who was this girl? What was her name? 1335 01:18:36,312 --> 01:18:39,774 It was Lauren. Lauren Douglas. 1336 01:18:43,861 --> 01:18:45,821 And here is the... 1337 01:18:46,322 --> 01:18:47,949 Here's a picture from the security camera. 1338 01:18:48,032 --> 01:18:50,785 This is the person that must have rifled through my files 1339 01:18:50,868 --> 01:18:53,746 and found the combination to your vault and took the tape. 1340 01:18:53,829 --> 01:18:56,290 This is not a person, Shelly. It's a hat and a coat. 1341 01:18:56,374 --> 01:18:59,835 And this is the photo ID of everyone 1342 01:18:59,919 --> 01:19:02,546 that's visited Forster in the last month. 1343 01:19:03,464 --> 01:19:05,049 (SOBBING) 1344 01:19:06,008 --> 01:19:07,969 Can you ever forgive me? 1345 01:19:11,138 --> 01:19:15,726 If I can't forgive you, Shelly, I don't deserve you. 1346 01:19:16,769 --> 01:19:18,270 Understand? 1347 01:19:19,271 --> 01:19:20,523 Okay. 1348 01:19:22,066 --> 01:19:24,443 I want you to call Carol. Patch her through to me. 1349 01:19:24,527 --> 01:19:26,529 Okay? Come on. Okay. 1350 01:19:27,446 --> 01:19:28,572 Kim? 1351 01:19:34,161 --> 01:19:35,371 Kim? 1352 01:19:37,873 --> 01:19:41,252 Hi, could you transfer me to Dean Johnson's office please? 1353 01:19:43,045 --> 01:19:44,255 Kim? 1354 01:19:46,674 --> 01:19:47,925 Kim? 1355 01:20:04,984 --> 01:20:06,235 Kim? 1356 01:20:11,782 --> 01:20:14,035 Where are you going in such a hurry, Jack? 1357 01:20:14,118 --> 01:20:16,537 Something upstairs you don't want me to see? 1358 01:20:17,538 --> 01:20:20,416 There's a woman named Sara Pollard upstairs very dead. 1359 01:20:20,499 --> 01:20:22,334 You can see her if you like. 1360 01:20:22,418 --> 01:20:23,878 Look, I'm a straight shooter, right, Jack? 1361 01:20:23,961 --> 01:20:25,004 Yeah. 1362 01:20:25,087 --> 01:20:26,338 And you would never screw me over, right? 1363 01:20:26,422 --> 01:20:27,465 Oh, come on. 1364 01:20:27,548 --> 01:20:30,968 Then why are your fingerprints all over Dale Morris' apartment? 1365 01:20:32,261 --> 01:20:33,721 They are? Yeah. 1366 01:20:33,804 --> 01:20:36,932 And you were right about the halothane in her bloodstream. 1367 01:20:37,016 --> 01:20:38,893 But what you failed to mention is the fact 1368 01:20:38,976 --> 01:20:40,644 that it's your semen in her vaginal cavity. 1369 01:20:40,728 --> 01:20:41,729 JACK: Okay. 1370 01:20:41,812 --> 01:20:43,397 Is your semen in Sara Pollard as well? 1371 01:20:43,481 --> 01:20:45,983 Where the hell are you going with this, Frank? 1372 01:20:46,067 --> 01:20:48,235 Can't you see this is a frame? 1373 01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:52,156 Forster is coordinating this whole thing from prison. Can't you see that? 1374 01:20:52,239 --> 01:20:54,366 Yeah, right. Well, is it Forster's semen 1375 01:20:54,450 --> 01:20:56,410 in Sara Pollard, or is it yours, Jack? 1376 01:20:56,494 --> 01:21:02,917 Somebody hired Sara Pollard to be with me last night, then killed her. 1377 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,879 Took my semen, deposited it into Dale Morris. 1378 01:21:06,962 --> 01:21:08,756 Do you have any idea how absurd that sounds? 1379 01:21:08,839 --> 01:21:10,091 No, it's not absurd. 1380 01:21:10,174 --> 01:21:12,134 I don't have time to explain, Frank. 1381 01:21:12,218 --> 01:21:13,552 Carol isn't answering. 1382 01:21:13,636 --> 01:21:14,887 What? What? 1383 01:21:14,970 --> 01:21:17,306 Carol isn't answering. 1384 01:21:17,389 --> 01:21:20,643 Get the names of all the women lawyers who work for Forster. 1385 01:21:20,726 --> 01:21:22,353 I want their names and ages. 1386 01:21:22,436 --> 01:21:23,604 Look, I know how you operate, Jack. 1387 01:21:23,687 --> 01:21:25,106 What the hell are you doing? 1388 01:21:25,189 --> 01:21:28,609 I know how you use people. It's no secret you're a womanizer. 1389 01:21:28,692 --> 01:21:30,111 You drink too much. 1390 01:21:30,194 --> 01:21:32,446 How do I know that you haven't gone completely over the edge? 1391 01:21:32,530 --> 01:21:33,614 Oh, man, I can't believe it! 1392 01:21:33,697 --> 01:21:35,449 How the hell do I know what you're capable of doing anymore? 1393 01:21:35,533 --> 01:21:38,410 What did I do, Frank? Did I send myself a tape? 1394 01:21:38,869 --> 01:21:42,039 Did I blow up my car? Did I set my apartment on fire? 1395 01:21:42,123 --> 01:21:43,958 Did I fire bullets at myself? 1396 01:21:44,041 --> 01:21:46,293 For God's sakes, Frank, will you wake up? 1397 01:21:46,377 --> 01:21:47,628 What the hell are you... What are you doing? 1398 01:21:47,711 --> 01:21:50,256 Look, I have no idea who you are anymore, Jack. 1399 01:21:50,339 --> 01:21:51,966 You don't? 1400 01:21:52,049 --> 01:21:53,342 I've got Gramm. 1401 01:21:53,384 --> 01:21:54,635 No, you're not gonna do this. I'm bringing him in. 1402 01:21:54,718 --> 01:21:58,013 Frank. Frank. Just give me some time, okay? 1403 01:21:58,097 --> 01:22:00,850 Just give me some time. I can untangle this. Okay? 1404 01:22:00,933 --> 01:22:03,811 Just give me... Here, give me some time. 1405 01:22:03,894 --> 01:22:06,730 Don't move or I will blow your fucking head off. 1406 01:22:09,066 --> 01:22:11,861 Don't point a gun at me, Frank. 1407 01:22:11,944 --> 01:22:15,072 Don't point a gun at me. Please. 1408 01:22:23,706 --> 01:22:26,792 I wanted to sync up our watches, that's all. 1409 01:22:34,758 --> 01:22:36,468 All right, Jack. 1410 01:22:37,428 --> 01:22:39,305 What do you need? 1411 01:22:39,388 --> 01:22:43,934 I need time. I need 10 minutes. Okay? Here, let's sync up now. 1412 01:22:46,270 --> 01:22:49,064 At 11:40, meet me at my office at the university. 1413 01:23:03,454 --> 01:23:05,039 Kim? What happened? 1414 01:23:05,122 --> 01:23:06,665 I know you're only trying to help me, 1415 01:23:06,749 --> 01:23:08,834 but don't go to my office on campus. 1416 01:23:08,918 --> 01:23:10,544 You understand? It's dangerous. 1417 01:23:10,628 --> 01:23:12,213 Don't be a hero. 1418 01:23:12,296 --> 01:23:15,549 When you get this message, you call me back ASAP. 1419 01:23:15,633 --> 01:23:17,676 You understand? It's Jack. 1420 01:23:18,844 --> 01:23:20,179 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1421 01:23:20,262 --> 01:23:21,555 Yeah. 1422 01:23:21,639 --> 01:23:23,724 SHELLY: Still no answer in Dean Johnson's office. 1423 01:23:23,849 --> 01:23:26,310 (PHONE BEEPS) Hold on. Yeah. 1424 01:23:26,393 --> 01:23:28,020 KIM: Jack? Kim, whatever you do, 1425 01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:30,773 do not go to my office on the campus. Do you understand? 1426 01:23:30,856 --> 01:23:32,399 You have 14 minutes. 1427 01:23:33,484 --> 01:23:34,485 What? 1428 01:23:34,568 --> 01:23:36,320 It was me, Jack. I set you up. 1429 01:23:36,403 --> 01:23:37,404 (SNIFFLES) 1430 01:23:37,488 --> 01:23:40,241 I had a computer dialing service call you at prearranged times 1431 01:23:40,324 --> 01:23:42,451 using an electronically altered voice. 1432 01:23:42,868 --> 01:23:44,995 Kim, this is no time to joke. 1433 01:23:45,079 --> 01:23:47,414 Meet me in your office in 10 minutes, Jack. 1434 01:23:47,498 --> 01:23:49,750 11:40. Don't be late. 1435 01:23:49,833 --> 01:23:51,001 Kim? 1436 01:23:52,169 --> 01:23:53,379 Kim! 1437 01:24:10,813 --> 01:24:12,273 (CARS HONKING) 1438 01:24:28,497 --> 01:24:29,748 Oh, shit. 1439 01:24:35,296 --> 01:24:36,714 Man. 1440 01:24:41,135 --> 01:24:42,511 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1441 01:24:43,637 --> 01:24:44,680 Yeah. 1442 01:24:44,763 --> 01:24:47,808 SHELLY: Hey, Jack, I got the names of those women on Forster's legal team. 1443 01:24:47,891 --> 01:24:49,143 There were three. 1444 01:24:49,226 --> 01:24:54,023 Hannah Baker, 53, Rosanne Caputo, 47, and... 1445 01:24:54,106 --> 01:24:55,649 Lydia Doherty, 28. 1446 01:24:55,733 --> 01:24:57,735 And Lydia Doherty, 28. How'd you know? 1447 01:24:57,818 --> 01:25:00,529 "Cause her name's on the sign-in sheet you gave me. 1448 01:25:00,612 --> 01:25:02,698 I want you to do a search on Lydia Doherty. 1449 01:25:02,781 --> 01:25:05,159 I want you to get all the information you can. 1450 01:25:05,242 --> 01:25:08,704 Fax it to my office on campus. Okay? Do it now. 1451 01:25:28,766 --> 01:25:30,559 Hey, another 100 bucks and I'll wait. 1452 01:26:12,976 --> 01:26:14,895 What the hell are you doing here? 1453 01:26:16,522 --> 01:26:18,399 This is Lauren Douglas' bag. 1454 01:26:19,817 --> 01:26:22,820 It was stolen today. I found it in your desk. 1455 01:26:24,113 --> 01:26:27,116 Halothane. What's it doing here? 1456 01:26:28,075 --> 01:26:29,576 What are you doing here? 1457 01:26:29,660 --> 01:26:31,578 Is this what you used to kill Dale and Sara? 1458 01:26:31,662 --> 01:26:33,664 Or do you have no idea about this, too? 1459 01:26:34,498 --> 01:26:35,582 Oh, sure, I do. 1460 01:26:35,666 --> 01:26:39,169 I left all that stuff here in my desk so you'd come along and find it. 1461 01:26:39,253 --> 01:26:41,088 You convinced the jury Forster was guilty. 1462 01:26:41,171 --> 01:26:42,756 How do I know you didn't Kill those women, too? 1463 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,508 Who sent you here? 1464 01:26:45,217 --> 01:26:47,719 Yeah. I'd like to report a suspect in the Seattle Slayer case. 1465 01:26:47,803 --> 01:26:49,012 What the... Dr. Jack Gramm. 1466 01:26:49,096 --> 01:26:50,806 Give me that damn phone! What the hell's the matter with you? 1467 01:26:50,889 --> 01:26:51,932 Who sent you here? 1468 01:26:52,015 --> 01:26:53,684 What, you think I'm too dumb to figure it out for myself? 1469 01:26:53,767 --> 01:26:54,977 Yes, I do. 1470 01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:59,398 Because whoever sent you here is deeply involved in the Slayer Killings. 1471 01:26:59,481 --> 01:27:00,983 Lydia Doherty. 1472 01:27:01,066 --> 01:27:02,443 Lydia Doherty. 1473 01:27:02,526 --> 01:27:04,111 Who the hell is that? 1474 01:27:04,194 --> 01:27:05,404 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1475 01:27:06,613 --> 01:27:07,656 Yeah? 1476 01:27:07,739 --> 01:27:09,241 KIM: Come to the Stern Building now. 1477 01:27:09,324 --> 01:27:11,535 Corner office, seventh floor. 1478 01:27:11,618 --> 01:27:12,786 Alone. 1479 01:27:15,456 --> 01:27:17,040 You have five minutes, Jack. 1480 01:27:18,917 --> 01:27:20,836 What are you doing? I'm not moving. 1481 01:27:22,045 --> 01:27:24,923 I don't have time to explain this. 1482 01:27:25,007 --> 01:27:26,800 Get away from the door. Come on! 1483 01:27:26,884 --> 01:27:28,719 You're gonna shoot me? 1484 01:27:33,140 --> 01:27:34,266 Yeah. 1485 01:27:36,602 --> 01:27:38,228 I'm a bad shot. 1486 01:27:40,647 --> 01:27:42,149 Frank, when you get this message, 1487 01:27:42,232 --> 01:27:44,610 I'm gonna be at the Stern Building on the seventh floor. 1488 01:27:44,693 --> 01:27:46,570 Get there as soon as you can. 1489 01:29:45,188 --> 01:29:46,481 (SOFTLY) Oh, God. 1490 01:29:48,108 --> 01:29:49,818 Punctual, Dr. Gramm. 1491 01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,405 I'm gonna give you a B+ for effort. 1492 01:29:53,488 --> 01:29:54,698 JACK: Yeah. 1493 01:29:54,781 --> 01:29:57,951 Dean Johnson is indisposed, but I'm sure she'd say hello, if she could. 1494 01:29:58,035 --> 01:30:01,455 As for your heroic friend, Kim, she didn't quite make the grade. 1495 01:30:01,538 --> 01:30:03,081 JACK: Lydia. You got the name right. 1496 01:30:03,165 --> 01:30:06,251 Lydia Doherty. Copycat murderer. 1497 01:30:06,335 --> 01:30:08,629 God, I wish Forster could see your face. 1498 01:30:08,712 --> 01:30:10,881 You look so totally clueless. 1499 01:30:14,885 --> 01:30:17,512 I hope that's not a gun you're holding. 1500 01:30:18,096 --> 01:30:20,098 Is that a gun, Dr. Gramm? 1501 01:30:20,766 --> 01:30:22,142 What do you want? 1502 01:30:22,225 --> 01:30:23,268 Is that a gun? 1503 01:30:23,352 --> 01:30:24,353 (CAROL GASPING) 1504 01:30:24,436 --> 01:30:25,646 I have a gun. 1505 01:30:25,729 --> 01:30:26,938 Then do this, 1506 01:30:28,315 --> 01:30:31,943 put it on the floor, slide it to me. 1507 01:30:34,863 --> 01:30:36,031 To me. 1508 01:30:39,618 --> 01:30:41,203 Okay. Okay. Okay. 1509 01:30:45,415 --> 01:30:46,500 Okay. 1510 01:30:48,502 --> 01:30:50,212 I'm gonna slide it. 1511 01:30:54,549 --> 01:30:55,801 (KIM SCREAMS) 1512 01:30:59,137 --> 01:31:01,431 One more time, slide it to me. 1513 01:31:06,895 --> 01:31:08,230 Slowly. 1514 01:31:09,189 --> 01:31:10,691 And move back. 1515 01:31:17,072 --> 01:31:18,365 Better. 1516 01:31:29,126 --> 01:31:30,335 (DIALING) 1517 01:31:41,221 --> 01:31:43,473 I'd like to talk to Jon Forster, please. 1518 01:31:43,557 --> 01:31:46,017 This is his appeals attorney, Lydia Doherty. 1519 01:31:46,101 --> 01:31:48,478 They monitor his calls, you know. 1520 01:31:49,312 --> 01:31:50,689 You're gonna implicate him. 1521 01:31:50,772 --> 01:31:54,651 The brilliant Dr. Gramm's latest psycho gambit, is that it? 1522 01:31:57,195 --> 01:31:59,906 LYDIA: I'm sorry for all the trouble I caused, Dr. Gramm. 1523 01:31:59,990 --> 01:32:02,534 You know that I did, Dr. Gramm, with honours. 1524 01:32:02,617 --> 01:32:05,912 Dale told me how good you were with her when her dad died. 1525 01:32:05,996 --> 01:32:07,539 She was so grateful. 1526 01:32:08,248 --> 01:32:10,625 But despite the fact that insanity is a legal concept, 1527 01:32:10,709 --> 01:32:12,919 it doesn't mean that someone's not sick. 1528 01:32:25,849 --> 01:32:27,476 Have him call me on my cell. 1529 01:32:28,477 --> 01:32:30,020 He knows the number. 1530 01:32:32,147 --> 01:32:33,231 What do you want? 1531 01:32:33,315 --> 01:32:35,442 How about we start with a confession? 1532 01:32:36,026 --> 01:32:37,277 I confess. 1533 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:38,779 To what? 1534 01:32:38,862 --> 01:32:40,655 To what? To everything. Whatever. 1535 01:32:41,448 --> 01:32:43,116 I confess. 1536 01:32:50,373 --> 01:32:52,959 I want you to speak clearly and I want the truth. 1537 01:32:53,043 --> 01:32:54,878 Where do I start? 1538 01:32:54,961 --> 01:32:56,004 Janie Cates. 1539 01:32:56,087 --> 01:32:57,923 Janie Cates? I coached... 1540 01:32:58,006 --> 01:32:59,841 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1541 01:32:59,925 --> 01:33:01,426 Shut it off. 1542 01:33:02,761 --> 01:33:04,554 Shut it off. I am. 1543 01:33:08,058 --> 01:33:09,976 Go again. Okay. 1544 01:33:10,060 --> 01:33:12,479 I coached Janie Cates. 1545 01:33:12,562 --> 01:33:13,647 In what trial? 1546 01:33:13,730 --> 01:33:16,691 I coached Janie Cates in Jon Forster's trial. 1547 01:33:16,775 --> 01:33:19,820 I coached her. She perjured herself. 1548 01:33:19,903 --> 01:33:22,072 I gave false testimony. 1549 01:33:22,906 --> 01:33:25,325 And Jon Forster was convicted. 1550 01:33:25,408 --> 01:33:27,869 Based on unlawful testimony. 1551 01:33:27,953 --> 01:33:29,913 Based on unlawful testimony. 1552 01:33:33,333 --> 01:33:34,501 Feel good? 1553 01:33:41,424 --> 01:33:44,469 What are you doing? Are you assessing me? 1554 01:33:45,262 --> 01:33:46,638 (LAUGHING) 1555 01:33:46,721 --> 01:33:49,015 Are you looking for a weakness, Dr. Gramm? 1556 01:33:49,099 --> 01:33:51,059 I'm just wondering 1557 01:33:51,142 --> 01:33:52,435 what's next. 1558 01:33:55,397 --> 01:33:57,941 Aren't you gonna offer to make me a deal? 1559 01:33:58,024 --> 01:34:00,610 Sacrifice yourself for Kim and Carol? 1560 01:34:01,695 --> 01:34:03,405 Be the hero. 1561 01:34:03,488 --> 01:34:05,073 Well, that wouldn't fly now, would it? 1562 01:34:05,156 --> 01:34:07,117 I'd offer it, but it wouldn't fly. 1563 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,245 Rejected. Do you have any other moves? 1564 01:34:12,372 --> 01:34:14,708 Or are you spent so quickly? 1565 01:34:14,791 --> 01:34:19,796 I could move my eyes like this, just look behind you. 1566 01:34:21,131 --> 01:34:23,383 See that there's someone there with a gun pointed at your head. 1567 01:34:23,466 --> 01:34:24,467 (LAUGHING) 1568 01:34:24,968 --> 01:34:26,344 Uh-huh. 1569 01:34:26,428 --> 01:34:27,888 How much time I got left? 1570 01:34:27,971 --> 01:34:29,556 You have about a minute. 1571 01:34:30,724 --> 01:34:31,766 Jack. 1572 01:34:31,850 --> 01:34:33,101 Enough time for your last words. 1573 01:34:33,184 --> 01:34:34,644 I'm not gonna deny you those. 1574 01:34:34,728 --> 01:34:35,729 Uh... 1575 01:34:35,979 --> 01:34:40,859 All this torture, all this torment, for an infatuation? 1576 01:34:40,942 --> 01:34:43,069 It's not infatuation, don't demean me. 1577 01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:46,323 Well, if it's not an infatuation, what is it? 1578 01:34:46,907 --> 01:34:48,491 (CAROL SCREAMING) 1579 01:34:48,575 --> 01:34:50,327 Stop, please! 1580 01:34:53,163 --> 01:34:55,165 Jack, help. 1581 01:35:06,843 --> 01:35:09,638 I went to great lengths to pull this off. 1582 01:35:10,972 --> 01:35:13,892 Jon really appreciates the quality of my work. 1583 01:35:13,975 --> 01:35:15,393 Timing the phone calls, 1584 01:35:15,477 --> 01:35:18,730 perfecting the ropes and pulleys, implicating everyone close to you. 1585 01:35:18,813 --> 01:35:20,857 Coaching Carol and Kim. 1586 01:35:21,816 --> 01:35:23,276 All the while staying invisible. 1587 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,612 KIM: It was me, Jack. I set you up. 1588 01:35:25,695 --> 01:35:27,530 You know what | don't understand? 1589 01:35:27,614 --> 01:35:32,202 How, in God's name, does anybody give up their free will? 1590 01:35:32,285 --> 01:35:33,620 How you do that? 1591 01:35:33,703 --> 01:35:34,704 Forty-five seconds. 1592 01:35:34,788 --> 01:35:38,875 I saw you. You came to my class. I remember you. 1593 01:35:38,959 --> 01:35:41,920 You were intelligent. An individual. 1594 01:35:42,003 --> 01:35:46,341 You challenged things. You challenged me. You challenged ideas. 1595 01:35:46,424 --> 01:35:47,968 You were your own person. 1596 01:35:48,051 --> 01:35:50,387 How could you ever, ever allow yourself 1597 01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:53,139 to be so manipulated by this guy? 1598 01:35:53,223 --> 01:35:54,349 LYDIA: 30 seconds. 1599 01:35:54,432 --> 01:35:55,976 Are you gonna take the fall for this guy? 1600 01:35:56,059 --> 01:35:58,144 If that's what he wants, so be it. 1601 01:35:59,229 --> 01:36:00,730 You see, Jack-0, 1602 01:36:01,356 --> 01:36:02,565 I'm a true believer. 1603 01:36:02,649 --> 01:36:04,985 Well, then you'd better believe that there's an FBI agent 1604 01:36:05,068 --> 01:36:08,488 with a gun pointed right at your head at this moment. 1605 01:36:09,239 --> 01:36:10,365 Believe it. 1606 01:36:10,448 --> 01:36:11,825 No more kidding. 1607 01:36:11,908 --> 01:36:13,410 Believe. 1608 01:36:13,910 --> 01:36:15,120 Believe it. 1609 01:36:15,203 --> 01:36:17,622 I believe your time's up, Dr. Gramm. 1610 01:36:32,595 --> 01:36:33,638 God. 1611 01:36:35,515 --> 01:36:36,599 Jack! 1612 01:36:38,810 --> 01:36:40,979 CAROL: Jack, help. 1613 01:36:46,276 --> 01:36:47,944 CAROL: Jack! 1614 01:36:54,075 --> 01:36:55,368 God! 1615 01:36:55,452 --> 01:36:57,704 Jack, help! 1616 01:36:58,288 --> 01:37:01,291 Jack, help! 1617 01:37:42,832 --> 01:37:44,000 FRANK: Again! 1618 01:37:53,802 --> 01:37:56,096 I got you. Good. 1619 01:37:56,179 --> 01:37:58,848 FRANK: It's okay. It's okay, sweetheart. 1620 01:38:01,810 --> 01:38:03,978 FRANK: Requesting immediate EMT help. 1621 01:38:04,062 --> 01:38:07,482 At the UNW campus. Stern Building, stat. 1622 01:38:07,565 --> 01:38:12,445 I repeat. Immediate emergency medical technicians, stat. 1623 01:38:12,529 --> 01:38:14,447 Multiple stab wounds. 1624 01:38:17,534 --> 01:38:20,036 There you go. There you go. 1625 01:38:20,495 --> 01:38:23,206 It's okay. Now don't move. 1626 01:38:25,875 --> 01:38:27,669 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1627 01:38:39,347 --> 01:38:40,390 Yeah. 1628 01:38:40,473 --> 01:38:43,434 Yeah, this is Officer Finnegan from the State Penitentiary at Walla Walla. 1629 01:38:43,518 --> 01:38:46,646 I'm placing a call for Jon Forster to his attorney Lydia Doherty. 1630 01:38:46,729 --> 01:38:47,939 Put him through. 1631 01:38:48,940 --> 01:38:50,191 OFFICER: Go ahead. 1632 01:38:50,275 --> 01:38:51,526 Lydia, 1633 01:38:52,819 --> 01:38:54,279 did you finish with Gramm? 1634 01:38:54,362 --> 01:38:55,655 She's downstairs. 1635 01:38:55,738 --> 01:38:56,865 Gramm? 1636 01:39:00,076 --> 01:39:01,452 Put my attorney on the phone, please. 1637 01:39:01,536 --> 01:39:02,579 She's indisposed. 1638 01:39:02,662 --> 01:39:04,873 Look, you are meddling in areas you shouldn't be meddling in. 1639 01:39:04,956 --> 01:39:09,252 You seize on a naive junior lawyer on your legal staff. 1640 01:39:10,420 --> 01:39:13,006 You realize that she's damaged goods, psychologically impaired. 1641 01:39:13,089 --> 01:39:14,174 It's genius, isn't it? 1642 01:39:14,257 --> 01:39:16,676 Susceptible to your crap. So what do you do? 1643 01:39:16,759 --> 01:39:20,138 You get her to kill people for you, SO you can stay alive. 1644 01:39:20,221 --> 01:39:23,099 Now that's innovative legal strategy, if I ever heard of it. 1645 01:39:23,183 --> 01:39:26,686 Now, Dr. Gramm, you flatter me with your vivid imagination, 1646 01:39:26,769 --> 01:39:28,104 but you're grasping at straws. 1647 01:39:28,188 --> 01:39:31,191 She becomes a student of mine, no less. 1648 01:39:31,274 --> 01:39:34,485 You keep her out of the appeals process, but she's still your lawyer, 1649 01:39:34,569 --> 01:39:36,988 so she has unlimited access to you, 1650 01:39:37,071 --> 01:39:40,575 SO you can plan your copycat murders together. 1651 01:39:40,658 --> 01:39:44,329 And then you can get a new trial, and live happily ever after. 1652 01:39:44,412 --> 01:39:45,538 Isn't that the case? 1653 01:39:45,622 --> 01:39:48,666 Dr. Gramm, I want you to listen very closely. 1654 01:39:49,709 --> 01:39:52,045 Because when | get out of here, 1655 01:39:52,128 --> 01:39:56,132 I'm gonna go out, have a nice hot meal, stop by your grave, 1656 01:39:57,592 --> 01:39:59,636 (WHISPERS) and then piss all over it. 1657 01:40:00,637 --> 01:40:03,097 Now, please put my angel attorney on the phone. 1658 01:40:03,181 --> 01:40:04,557 She's dead. 1659 01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:07,310 It's over, Forster. 1660 01:40:07,393 --> 01:40:10,188 Except for the clock that goes tick-tock, tick-tock. 1661 01:40:10,605 --> 01:40:12,398 You got 12 hours to live. 1662 01:40:23,451 --> 01:40:26,079 KATE: Jack, look at me. Look at the kite! 1663 01:40:31,167 --> 01:40:34,629 JANIE: I'm glad that my sister Joanie hasn't been forgotten. 1664 01:40:34,712 --> 01:40:37,507 We did good, Janie. We did good. 123457

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