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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,715 --> 00:00:08,467 ♪♪ 2 00:00:08,551 --> 00:00:09,301 [siren wails] 3 00:00:09,385 --> 00:00:10,970 [Connelly] Los Angeles-- 4 00:00:11,053 --> 00:00:13,472 a city infamous for its music and movies... 5 00:00:13,556 --> 00:00:14,432 [man] Action! 6 00:00:14,515 --> 00:00:16,015 ♪♪ 7 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:17,977 [Connelly] ...is also defined by its murders. 8 00:00:18,060 --> 00:00:19,270 [gunshot] 9 00:00:19,353 --> 00:00:21,480 [scream] 10 00:00:21,564 --> 00:00:23,858 It seems to set the City of Angels apart, 11 00:00:23,941 --> 00:00:26,485 capturing the world's attention. 12 00:00:26,569 --> 00:00:28,863 The randomness of murder plays out 13 00:00:28,946 --> 00:00:31,031 beneath the bright lights of Hollywood, 14 00:00:31,115 --> 00:00:33,534 the boulevard of broken dreams, 15 00:00:33,617 --> 00:00:36,912 and seeps into the veins of the American zeitgeist. 16 00:00:38,289 --> 00:00:41,709 I'm Michael Connelly, and I came here nearly 40 years ago, 17 00:00:41,792 --> 00:00:46,172 drawn by the movies, the music, and, yes, the murders. 18 00:00:46,255 --> 00:00:49,341 This dark pantheon includes the Black Dahlia, 19 00:00:49,425 --> 00:00:52,219 the Hillside Strangler, the Manson case, 20 00:00:52,303 --> 00:00:55,181 the O.J. Simpson case, the slaying of Biggie Smalls, 21 00:00:55,264 --> 00:00:57,475 just to name a few. 22 00:00:57,558 --> 00:01:01,020 But perhaps no other case symbolizes an era in Los Angeles 23 00:01:01,103 --> 00:01:03,397 more than the Wonderland massacre. 24 00:01:03,481 --> 00:01:05,191 [man] Okay, cameras rolling. 25 00:01:05,273 --> 00:01:06,817 [newscaster] Four murder victims were found today 26 00:01:06,901 --> 00:01:08,819 in a posh Hollywood Hills home. 27 00:01:08,903 --> 00:01:11,154 Police said all four had been beaten to death in a struggle 28 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:13,240 that splattered the interior of the house with blood. 29 00:01:13,324 --> 00:01:15,659 [newscaster #2] A Manson-like mass murder. 30 00:01:15,743 --> 00:01:18,370 [Connelly] The tentacles of the case would ensnare a porn star, 31 00:01:18,454 --> 00:01:22,499 a corrupt judge, and drug kingpin Pablo Escobar. 32 00:01:22,582 --> 00:01:24,877 Multiple celebrities would be swept into the story 33 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,547 by Liberace's boy toy, enigma Scott Thorson. 34 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:31,717 ♪♪ 35 00:01:31,801 --> 00:01:36,263 To this day, no one has been held directly accountable. 36 00:01:36,347 --> 00:01:38,057 For many, including me, 37 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:40,392 it has been a decades-long obsession. 38 00:01:40,475 --> 00:01:43,437 ♪♪ 39 00:01:55,491 --> 00:01:58,327 [birds calling] 40 00:02:05,167 --> 00:02:08,003 [rustling] 41 00:02:11,882 --> 00:02:14,635 I used to walk by this house 42 00:02:14,718 --> 00:02:17,763 when I lived in Laurel Canyon, 43 00:02:17,847 --> 00:02:22,226 and so it was always kind of a place of fascination. 44 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:28,482 This story ostensibly is about a massacre in a house in 1981, 45 00:02:28,566 --> 00:02:32,277 but it's one of those rings that keeps going out into society. 46 00:02:33,237 --> 00:02:37,157 By day, my job was working as a crime reporter in L.A., 47 00:02:37,241 --> 00:02:39,827 and I was writing about murders all the time. 48 00:02:39,910 --> 00:02:42,913 And then I moved into this world where I'm writing novels, 49 00:02:42,997 --> 00:02:45,291 and there's aspects of this story 50 00:02:45,374 --> 00:02:47,918 that I don't think would work in fiction 51 00:02:48,002 --> 00:02:51,755 because you actually have to be more believable in fiction. 52 00:02:51,839 --> 00:02:54,008 When you're a newspaper reporter, 53 00:02:54,091 --> 00:02:56,260 you can build sources. 54 00:02:56,343 --> 00:02:57,970 You build sources through trust. 55 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:01,432 You build trust through accuracy in your stories. 56 00:03:01,515 --> 00:03:03,684 I did that for a long time as a journalist, 57 00:03:03,767 --> 00:03:06,520 but then when I was out of it, you know, writing fiction 58 00:03:06,604 --> 00:03:09,481 and trying to make my fiction as real as possible, 59 00:03:09,565 --> 00:03:11,859 doors opened open for me, and one of the people 60 00:03:11,942 --> 00:03:14,486 who opened one of those doors was Rick Jackson. 61 00:03:15,905 --> 00:03:18,657 [crew] Detective Rick Jackson. Marker. 62 00:03:18,741 --> 00:03:20,618 You've worked a lot of cases. 63 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:25,164 Was there any case that had this kind of longevity in your life? 64 00:03:25,247 --> 00:03:28,167 There are cases like that that continue 65 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:32,712 to rear their heads because of bizarre reasons, 66 00:03:32,796 --> 00:03:36,467 but this has kind of set the bar, really, 67 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:38,719 as far as things in my career. 68 00:03:38,801 --> 00:03:41,639 To me, it feels like a story 69 00:03:41,722 --> 00:03:43,849 that could only be told 70 00:03:43,933 --> 00:03:45,392 through the lens of Los Angeles. 71 00:03:45,476 --> 00:03:46,852 Yeah, it's a Hollywood story. 72 00:03:46,936 --> 00:03:49,355 ♪♪ 73 00:03:49,438 --> 00:03:53,859 It's glitzy, yet it's really dark, too. 74 00:03:53,943 --> 00:03:56,737 Laurel Canyon-- that was my old patrol area. 75 00:03:56,820 --> 00:03:59,073 Laurel Canyon and the hills 76 00:03:59,156 --> 00:04:00,741 on both the east and the west side of Hollywood. 77 00:04:00,823 --> 00:04:03,035 So, I was up there a lot. 78 00:04:03,118 --> 00:04:05,037 It's a beautiful, natural setting. 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,914 Rustic. 80 00:04:06,997 --> 00:04:11,377 The aftermath of the hippie era goes on up there. 81 00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:13,671 It's always been connected to creativity, 82 00:04:13,754 --> 00:04:15,673 obviously music. 83 00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:19,218 [Connelly] The music that really was important to me growing up 84 00:04:19,301 --> 00:04:21,887 seemed to all come out of Laurel Canyon. 85 00:04:21,971 --> 00:04:23,389 I think there's a real connection 86 00:04:23,472 --> 00:04:25,182 between music and writing. 87 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:27,393 Yeah, it was a great setting for all that. 88 00:04:27,476 --> 00:04:29,520 And then along comes 89 00:04:29,603 --> 00:04:32,731 this brutal, brutal, brutal murder. 90 00:04:32,815 --> 00:04:35,066 [man] There's quite a lot of blood spattered 91 00:04:35,150 --> 00:04:38,278 upon the--the records. 92 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,615 [Connelly] This was the end of a generation 93 00:04:41,699 --> 00:04:43,909 of inspiration and innocence. 94 00:04:43,993 --> 00:04:46,245 [man] Apparent narcotics paraphernalia 95 00:04:46,328 --> 00:04:48,414 is evident on the coffee table. 96 00:04:48,497 --> 00:04:50,290 And it was all kind of fueled by these drugs 97 00:04:50,374 --> 00:04:52,960 that were designed to addict. 98 00:04:53,043 --> 00:04:55,629 People still know about this case 40 years later. 99 00:04:55,713 --> 00:04:58,465 How much does it bother you 100 00:04:58,549 --> 00:05:00,634 that people got away with murder? 101 00:05:00,718 --> 00:05:03,262 You're retired from the LAPD, but you're a volunteer, 102 00:05:03,345 --> 00:05:05,222 still closing cases. 103 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:08,058 Do you think it's worth opening it again? 104 00:05:08,142 --> 00:05:11,603 [Jackson] It's not too old to look at it again. 105 00:05:11,687 --> 00:05:14,231 Almost like Harry Bosch in the show, 106 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:16,816 where you spread everything out. 107 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:19,111 We do this kind of stuff all the time 108 00:05:19,194 --> 00:05:21,447 40, even 50 years later. 109 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:23,949 It's the heat of a cold case. 110 00:05:24,033 --> 00:05:26,452 You get that rush. 111 00:05:26,535 --> 00:05:28,620 Right away, you're into it, and you treat it 112 00:05:28,704 --> 00:05:31,790 just like a case that happened the day before. 113 00:05:31,874 --> 00:05:34,792 ♪♪ 114 00:05:36,879 --> 00:05:39,256 [Connelly] So, what happened about 4:00 115 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:42,176 when you came to work on July 1, 1981? 116 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,849 [Jackson] It was right close to the 4th of July weekend. 117 00:05:48,932 --> 00:05:50,768 There were no detectives around at all, 118 00:05:50,851 --> 00:05:52,478 but there was word in the station that 119 00:05:52,561 --> 00:05:55,314 a multiple murder had taken place up in Laurel Canyon. 120 00:05:55,397 --> 00:05:56,815 So, I thought, well, 121 00:05:56,899 --> 00:06:00,319 I'm now officially working detective, so I should 122 00:06:00,402 --> 00:06:02,488 go up there and protect the crime scene, 123 00:06:02,571 --> 00:06:05,657 you know, not letting captains or other people 124 00:06:05,741 --> 00:06:07,993 that shouldn't go in there just to 125 00:06:08,077 --> 00:06:09,995 be a lookie-loo. 126 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:11,663 The first officer at the scene 127 00:06:11,747 --> 00:06:14,333 made entry through a door in the back. 128 00:06:14,416 --> 00:06:15,542 They could hear moaning. 129 00:06:15,626 --> 00:06:17,169 [faint moaning] 130 00:06:17,252 --> 00:06:19,004 They weren't sure it was an animal inside 131 00:06:19,088 --> 00:06:20,839 or something that was wounded. 132 00:06:20,923 --> 00:06:25,511 It was kind of a haunting description he provided of... 133 00:06:25,594 --> 00:06:28,680 you know, making entry into that place. 134 00:06:28,764 --> 00:06:31,058 But I never went inside 'cause I knew this case 135 00:06:31,141 --> 00:06:33,518 was gonna go to downtown-- robbery homicide. 136 00:06:33,602 --> 00:06:36,522 So, once the other detectives got there, 137 00:06:36,605 --> 00:06:37,898 I left. 138 00:06:39,149 --> 00:06:44,029 [crew] Detectives Tom Lange and Bob Souza. Marker. 139 00:06:44,113 --> 00:06:45,989 [Lange] We were on call-out that weekend. 140 00:06:46,073 --> 00:06:49,034 It was gonna be the 4th of July. 141 00:06:49,118 --> 00:06:52,788 But murders don't occur between 9 and 5, Monday through Friday. 142 00:06:54,665 --> 00:06:57,543 Tom got there about a half-hour before I did, I think. 143 00:06:57,626 --> 00:06:59,670 I was still fighting holiday traffic. 144 00:06:59,753 --> 00:07:02,756 I usually greeted Tom with a joke. 145 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:05,551 And so when I finally pulled up and I saw Tom on the sidewalk, 146 00:07:05,634 --> 00:07:07,553 sleeves rolled up, clipboard out, 147 00:07:07,636 --> 00:07:10,055 his game face on, I said, "Tom, 148 00:07:10,139 --> 00:07:12,558 this isn't gonna fuck up my holiday weekend, is it?" 149 00:07:12,641 --> 00:07:14,476 And he didn't even smile. 150 00:07:16,687 --> 00:07:19,064 [crew] Okay, camera is rolling. 151 00:07:19,148 --> 00:07:21,233 I remember the first thing Tom said to me. 152 00:07:21,316 --> 00:07:22,441 "You got your galoshes ready? 153 00:07:22,526 --> 00:07:23,861 I'm gonna give you a walkthrough." 154 00:07:23,944 --> 00:07:30,576 [Lange] We are at 8763 Wonderland Drive. 155 00:07:30,659 --> 00:07:33,495 [Souza] Tom had this great idea to videotape it. 156 00:07:35,998 --> 00:07:38,542 [Lange] We are now in the residence. 157 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:42,963 The first level, the living-room area, 158 00:07:43,046 --> 00:07:45,966 wherein victim number one was found. 159 00:07:48,844 --> 00:07:51,638 There is evidence of ransacking in this room. 160 00:07:51,722 --> 00:07:54,766 The first thing that struck me when I went in 161 00:07:54,850 --> 00:07:57,394 is that this place is a mess. It's been turned. 162 00:07:57,477 --> 00:08:02,107 Apparent narcotics paraphernalia is evident on the coffee table. 163 00:08:02,191 --> 00:08:04,276 [Souza] It just smacked of a drug rip-off. 164 00:08:04,359 --> 00:08:06,778 [Lange] Directly above victim one. 165 00:08:08,989 --> 00:08:10,616 Barbara Richardson was in the front. 166 00:08:10,699 --> 00:08:13,493 She was lying on her side below the sofa. 167 00:08:13,577 --> 00:08:17,163 There was blood pooling where she probably was first struck, 168 00:08:17,247 --> 00:08:20,792 struck so hard that she was knocked to the floor. 169 00:08:20,876 --> 00:08:22,293 You could see blood on the wall, 170 00:08:22,377 --> 00:08:25,129 that tailed up the wall, 171 00:08:25,214 --> 00:08:27,299 which indicates that the, uh, the blood 172 00:08:27,382 --> 00:08:29,593 was probably flung from a murder weapon. 173 00:08:29,676 --> 00:08:32,930 The throw pillow on the south end of the couch 174 00:08:33,013 --> 00:08:35,474 has a large bloodstain. 175 00:08:35,557 --> 00:08:37,100 Not a spatter. 176 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:38,810 Definitely a soaking. 177 00:08:38,894 --> 00:08:40,646 [Souza] There was more blood in that scene 178 00:08:40,729 --> 00:08:42,481 that I'd ever seen at a crime scene. 179 00:08:42,564 --> 00:08:45,484 [Lange] In front of you, we have a west wall. 180 00:08:45,567 --> 00:08:47,653 Blood splattered. 181 00:08:47,736 --> 00:08:50,530 This was the location that victim number two 182 00:08:50,614 --> 00:08:52,991 was removed by a rescue unit. 183 00:08:53,075 --> 00:08:55,035 Susie Launius-- 184 00:08:55,118 --> 00:08:57,955 she had been removed already and taken to Cedars-Sinai. 185 00:08:58,038 --> 00:08:59,498 So, she was at the hospital, 186 00:08:59,581 --> 00:09:01,500 but I was told she was not expected to live. 187 00:09:01,583 --> 00:09:05,504 As we move to the south in a southerly direction, 188 00:09:05,587 --> 00:09:07,506 we have victim number three. 189 00:09:07,589 --> 00:09:09,800 Ron Launius is lying in bed. 190 00:09:09,883 --> 00:09:11,843 He'd been attacked probably sleeping. 191 00:09:11,927 --> 00:09:13,470 Apparent wounds to the head. 192 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:16,348 His skull was just in pieces. 193 00:09:16,431 --> 00:09:19,351 Two hypodermic needles are observed on the nightstand-- 194 00:09:19,434 --> 00:09:23,021 one in the drawer, one on the nightstand. 195 00:09:23,105 --> 00:09:24,731 On the east wall, 196 00:09:24,815 --> 00:09:30,862 there's an apparent pellet gun hanging, barrel up. 197 00:09:30,946 --> 00:09:34,908 Blood splatterings are evident on the south wall 198 00:09:34,992 --> 00:09:37,911 above the victim's head 199 00:09:37,995 --> 00:09:42,874 and the curtains to the west and northwest of the victim. 200 00:09:45,627 --> 00:09:47,713 Now entering the room 201 00:09:47,796 --> 00:09:50,757 where we find victims four and five. 202 00:09:50,841 --> 00:09:53,593 Joy Miller was the person who was renting the house. 203 00:09:53,677 --> 00:09:54,928 Victim number four. 204 00:09:55,012 --> 00:09:56,555 She was lying on the bed, 205 00:09:56,638 --> 00:09:59,391 half out of the bed and half in the bed. 206 00:09:59,474 --> 00:10:04,563 Somebody took some kind of a striking object to her head, 207 00:10:04,646 --> 00:10:09,609 to the point where it was just flattened from the eyes back. 208 00:10:09,693 --> 00:10:14,531 There is extensive trauma to the head of victim number four. 209 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:19,411 Once again, extensive evidence of ransacking. 210 00:10:19,494 --> 00:10:23,415 Panning towards the south, we have victim number five, 211 00:10:23,498 --> 00:10:26,585 located in a partial sitting position. 212 00:10:26,668 --> 00:10:29,254 Billy Deverell was on the ground 213 00:10:29,338 --> 00:10:31,465 leaning up against a, uh, TV tray. 214 00:10:31,548 --> 00:10:33,091 The TV was on. 215 00:10:33,175 --> 00:10:35,135 He had defensive wounds on his hands. 216 00:10:35,218 --> 00:10:38,597 It was clear that he got out of bed and probably fought back. 217 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:43,560 Again, extensive head wounds are apparent. 218 00:10:43,643 --> 00:10:46,855 A hammer is noted in the corner of the bed. 219 00:10:49,316 --> 00:10:53,528 Drawers have been...emptied. 220 00:10:55,530 --> 00:10:59,284 The floors are extremely blood-stained around the bodies. 221 00:11:01,703 --> 00:11:05,457 We've got five bodies in three different places. 222 00:11:05,540 --> 00:11:07,417 So, the whole house is a crime scene. 223 00:11:07,501 --> 00:11:09,920 You're gonna have evidence throughout the entire house. 224 00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:15,467 These victims had been struck by some kind of a bat or a pipe, 225 00:11:15,550 --> 00:11:18,970 which means they probably knew the people that did this. 226 00:11:19,054 --> 00:11:20,639 -This is personal. -Did you have a sense 227 00:11:20,722 --> 00:11:23,433 that this wasn't one maniac? 228 00:11:23,517 --> 00:11:25,769 We never thought that it was one person. 229 00:11:25,852 --> 00:11:27,521 Three, four, maybe even as many as five, 230 00:11:27,604 --> 00:11:30,649 to be able to control that whole house the way they did. 231 00:11:30,732 --> 00:11:32,984 We agreed right away that it was a get-back murder 232 00:11:33,068 --> 00:11:36,363 just because of the-- the violence. 233 00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:41,701 Four murder victims were found today 234 00:11:41,785 --> 00:11:43,662 in a posh Hollywood Hills home. 235 00:11:43,745 --> 00:11:46,498 Los Angeles police say the murder scene was so bloody 236 00:11:46,581 --> 00:11:47,833 that the--and that the bodies had been in there 237 00:11:47,916 --> 00:11:49,793 for 12 to 15 hours, 238 00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:52,546 found by neighbors in the house 239 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:55,006 located just blocks from Governor Brown's home. 240 00:11:55,090 --> 00:11:56,967 A fifth person survived the attack. 241 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:59,219 She is now in critical condition from severe cuts and bruises 242 00:11:59,302 --> 00:12:00,887 on her head and neck. 243 00:12:00,971 --> 00:12:02,848 The identities of the victims have not been released, 244 00:12:02,931 --> 00:12:04,641 but police say they were not celebrities. 245 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:06,893 [Lange] We had probably a hundred people 246 00:12:06,977 --> 00:12:09,229 in the press and the trucks and cameras. 247 00:12:09,312 --> 00:12:12,149 And just about two and a half miles 248 00:12:12,232 --> 00:12:14,151 as the crow flies to the west 249 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:16,319 was the Manson killings 250 00:12:16,403 --> 00:12:18,989 and Sharon Tate right over the hill, 251 00:12:19,072 --> 00:12:23,034 uh, which was, of course, in '69, 12 years earlier. 252 00:12:23,118 --> 00:12:24,744 ♪♪ 253 00:12:24,828 --> 00:12:28,373 [Connelly] Okay, so, murder marches on in Los Angeles. 254 00:12:28,457 --> 00:12:31,877 But how soon did you arrive at who these people were? 255 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,545 First thing you wanna do 256 00:12:33,628 --> 00:12:36,381 is run their records locally, federally, 257 00:12:36,465 --> 00:12:38,550 to see what they are, what they've been arrested for. 258 00:12:38,633 --> 00:12:41,219 Turned out one of our officers 259 00:12:41,303 --> 00:12:43,889 knew Ron Launius as a murder suspect 260 00:12:43,972 --> 00:12:47,184 on a well-known case-- the Vic Weiss case. 261 00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:49,686 Weiss was a sports promoter who was murdered, 262 00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:51,563 found in a Universal City parking lot 263 00:12:51,646 --> 00:12:53,356 in the trunk of his car. 264 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,942 And Ron Launius was one of the suspects. 265 00:12:57,444 --> 00:12:59,279 [Connelly] At the time of his death, 266 00:12:59,362 --> 00:13:02,866 Ron Launius was associated with several open murder cases. 267 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:04,868 He had already served prison time 268 00:13:04,951 --> 00:13:07,871 for trafficking heroin and cocaine. 269 00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:09,372 So, right out of the gate, 270 00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:11,625 did law enforcement think this was drug-related? 271 00:13:11,708 --> 00:13:13,585 It was the cocaine salad days. Let's face it. 272 00:13:13,668 --> 00:13:15,378 We had Hollywood on one side, 273 00:13:15,462 --> 00:13:17,047 San Fernando Valley on the other. 274 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:18,423 ♪♪ 275 00:13:18,507 --> 00:13:20,592 [Connelly] The male victims were part 276 00:13:20,675 --> 00:13:23,762 of what became known as the Wonderland Gang. 277 00:13:23,845 --> 00:13:27,307 It was a loose affiliation of thieves and drug dealers. 278 00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:31,228 They sold drugs, but they also stole drugs from other dealers. 279 00:13:31,311 --> 00:13:32,979 It was a common practice, 280 00:13:33,063 --> 00:13:36,107 given that no one involved would actually call the police. 281 00:13:36,191 --> 00:13:38,276 To infiltrate these gangs, 282 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,945 police officers would go undercover. 283 00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:42,405 ♪♪ 284 00:13:42,489 --> 00:13:46,451 [crew] Narcotics detective Bobbie Eggar. A and C. Mark. 285 00:13:46,535 --> 00:13:50,455 So, about 18 years of working narcotics 286 00:13:50,539 --> 00:13:53,333 during a pretty amazing evolution of drugs. 287 00:13:53,416 --> 00:13:54,834 What was that like? 288 00:13:54,918 --> 00:13:57,837 We saw a lot. We went from pills were the big issue 289 00:13:57,921 --> 00:14:02,300 to marijuana into a lot of cocaine. 290 00:14:02,384 --> 00:14:07,806 Back in the day, cocaine was very powerful. 291 00:14:07,889 --> 00:14:11,768 Everybody that had money had cocaine. 292 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:13,603 And it was your way of showing people 293 00:14:13,687 --> 00:14:15,981 that you were powerful and you had money. 294 00:14:16,064 --> 00:14:17,691 Tell us a little bit about your undercover work. 295 00:14:17,774 --> 00:14:19,985 What was your assignment and how did you carry it out? 296 00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:22,320 When I first went to narcotics, 297 00:14:22,404 --> 00:14:24,781 we tried to see if we could infiltrate 298 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:27,158 the entertainment industry. 299 00:14:27,242 --> 00:14:30,328 I mean, just playing a role 300 00:14:30,412 --> 00:14:31,663 kind of enticed me. 301 00:14:31,746 --> 00:14:35,000 Can I convince you that I'm a drug dealer? 302 00:14:35,083 --> 00:14:37,127 [Connelly] What was your undercover name? 303 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:39,004 -Angela. -And so was that when you were 304 00:14:39,087 --> 00:14:40,714 doing the kind of personal buys in the clubs and stuff? 305 00:14:40,797 --> 00:14:42,215 Yes. 306 00:14:42,299 --> 00:14:46,344 We were going to bars, restaurants, 307 00:14:46,428 --> 00:14:49,055 places that we knew a lot 308 00:14:49,139 --> 00:14:50,515 of drug trafficking was going on 309 00:14:50,599 --> 00:14:52,017 kind of out in the open, 310 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:55,312 so we can become friendly with them and 311 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:57,814 eventually make a buy from them. 312 00:14:57,897 --> 00:15:00,358 It was pretty cutthroat. 313 00:15:00,442 --> 00:15:03,028 There was no loyalty except to the drug. 314 00:15:03,111 --> 00:15:05,697 The people involved in those crimes, 315 00:15:05,780 --> 00:15:08,908 which Wonderland was-- they were all users-- 316 00:15:08,992 --> 00:15:11,077 their only loyalty was to that drug 317 00:15:11,161 --> 00:15:12,871 because they needed it. 318 00:15:12,954 --> 00:15:14,873 They'd do anything to get that drug. 319 00:15:19,294 --> 00:15:21,588 We're here on the 8700 block in Wonderland, 320 00:15:21,671 --> 00:15:23,048 just off of Laurel Canyon. 321 00:15:23,131 --> 00:15:26,593 What we have -- four dead and one injured. 322 00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:29,054 A neighbor heard what he thought were screams 323 00:15:29,137 --> 00:15:31,431 very early this morning. 324 00:15:31,514 --> 00:15:33,016 My girlfriend woke me up and said, 325 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:34,893 "Hey, there's something going on." 326 00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:37,062 And I was half-asleep and just kind of said, 327 00:15:37,145 --> 00:15:39,564 "Well, we've heard it before, you know." 328 00:15:39,648 --> 00:15:42,149 -[reporter] Screams? Uh... -Yeah, really torturous screams. 329 00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:48,531 So, the murders occurred probably just after 4 a.m. 330 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:50,367 It was almost 4 p.m. 331 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:52,577 before anybody did anything about it. 332 00:15:52,661 --> 00:15:55,288 But in the meantime, they had all these visitors 333 00:15:55,372 --> 00:15:58,708 who just helped themselves to whatever was left. 334 00:15:58,792 --> 00:16:00,877 ♪♪ 335 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,921 In one instance, the guy told us he went in there 336 00:16:03,004 --> 00:16:05,048 and he stepped right over Susie Launius, 337 00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:06,966 and he heard her moan, 338 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:09,636 and somebody said, "Hey, I think she's still alive." 339 00:16:09,719 --> 00:16:11,304 And he said, "Ah, she's gonna be dead anyway. 340 00:16:11,388 --> 00:16:12,764 Let's just get outta here." 341 00:16:12,847 --> 00:16:15,725 ♪♪ 342 00:16:15,809 --> 00:16:18,728 [Jackson] I never worked narcotics, 343 00:16:18,812 --> 00:16:21,314 but in murder investigations, quite a number, percentage-wise, 344 00:16:21,398 --> 00:16:23,817 involve drugs somehow. 345 00:16:27,028 --> 00:16:28,279 [Souza] So, a couple of days later, 346 00:16:28,363 --> 00:16:29,906 we're sitting around the station, 347 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:32,117 and we got a call from a guy named Fat Howard. 348 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,285 -[telephone rings] -Tom took the call. 349 00:16:34,369 --> 00:16:36,121 [Lange] He says, "Well, I got a guy with me, 350 00:16:36,204 --> 00:16:37,414 and, uh, he says he knows 351 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:39,290 some of the victims up there, and-- 352 00:16:39,374 --> 00:16:41,459 and he's worried about his girlfriend. 353 00:16:41,543 --> 00:16:44,295 Maybe she was hurt and in the hospital. 354 00:16:44,379 --> 00:16:46,172 I think maybe you ought to talk to him." 355 00:16:46,256 --> 00:16:47,799 I said, "Okay, Howard. Fine. Where are you calling from?" 356 00:16:47,882 --> 00:16:49,509 He said, "Well, I'm at the house." 357 00:16:49,592 --> 00:16:51,593 I said, "Okay. What are you talking about? Your house?" 358 00:16:51,678 --> 00:16:53,679 "No. I'm at the-- at the Wonderland house." 359 00:16:53,763 --> 00:16:56,307 I said, "You're at the murder house where it just happened? 360 00:16:56,390 --> 00:16:58,435 Well, where's your friend?" He said, "Well, he's inside." 361 00:16:58,518 --> 00:17:00,602 I said, "Oh, shit." 362 00:17:00,687 --> 00:17:05,108 So, I grabbed Bob, and we beat it back up to the house. 363 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:09,195 ♪♪ 364 00:17:09,279 --> 00:17:11,489 The tape has been ripped down. The door is wide open. 365 00:17:11,573 --> 00:17:13,324 So, we went in the front 366 00:17:13,408 --> 00:17:15,285 with weapons out because we don't know 367 00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:16,828 what we're dealing with in here. 368 00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:19,497 Not everybody cracks into a crime scene 369 00:17:19,581 --> 00:17:21,624 where four people had been murdered 370 00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:23,334 and just walks right in. 371 00:17:23,418 --> 00:17:26,671 It just takes a set of nuts to do something like that. 372 00:17:26,755 --> 00:17:31,509 [man] It smelled like death. I saw a lot of blood. 373 00:17:31,593 --> 00:17:34,345 I saw where everybody was murdered. 374 00:17:34,429 --> 00:17:36,723 I saw the place my girlfriend was. 375 00:17:36,806 --> 00:17:38,308 There was this huge blood spot there. 376 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:40,518 That didn't make me feel too good. 377 00:17:40,602 --> 00:17:42,729 It just, you know, it just was bad. 378 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:50,737 [Lange] So, we walked in, and we hear some movement in the back, 379 00:17:50,820 --> 00:17:53,031 and there's some guy back there on all fours 380 00:17:53,114 --> 00:17:55,200 picking up pills and stuffing them in his pocket. 381 00:17:55,283 --> 00:17:56,701 We had to yell at him two or three times. 382 00:17:56,785 --> 00:17:58,536 He was--He was so engrossed in what he was doing. 383 00:17:58,620 --> 00:17:59,829 -[Lange] Yeah. -Finally I yelled, 384 00:17:59,913 --> 00:18:01,664 "Police officers! Freeze!" 385 00:18:01,748 --> 00:18:05,585 [Lange] Come to find out, it's David Lind. 386 00:18:05,668 --> 00:18:08,171 [Connelly] David Clay Lind was a biker, heroin addict, 387 00:18:08,254 --> 00:18:10,715 and a member of the Aryan Nation 388 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:13,676 who had befriended the leader of the Wonderland Gang, 389 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,930 Ron Launius, when they were in prison together. 390 00:18:17,013 --> 00:18:18,848 [reporter] One of the victims was bailed out of jail 391 00:18:18,932 --> 00:18:20,850 on car-stealing charges 392 00:18:20,934 --> 00:18:24,604 by this man, Howard Harry Cook, a local underworld figure. 393 00:18:24,687 --> 00:18:28,233 This man, David Lind, a bounty hunter from Sacramento, 394 00:18:28,316 --> 00:18:30,610 was away at the time when the murders occurred, 395 00:18:30,693 --> 00:18:33,530 but his 22-year-old companion was killed. 396 00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:35,365 [Connelly] Lind's girlfriend was one of the victims-- 397 00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:37,408 Barbara Richardson. 398 00:18:37,492 --> 00:18:40,078 For some reason, he felt that she was still alive 399 00:18:40,161 --> 00:18:41,913 because the media-- it had been reported 400 00:18:41,996 --> 00:18:45,416 that one of the women was still alive at Cedars-Sinai, 401 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:47,585 so he assumed it was her, and it wasn't. 402 00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:49,921 ♪♪ 403 00:18:50,004 --> 00:18:54,425 But this was the first break we had in this whole case, 404 00:18:54,509 --> 00:18:57,095 so we ended up taking him down to the station. 405 00:18:57,178 --> 00:18:59,639 He knows the people. He's been there before. 406 00:18:59,722 --> 00:19:00,932 So, we're gonna be straight with him. 407 00:19:01,015 --> 00:19:02,308 We're not gonna lie to him. 408 00:19:02,392 --> 00:19:03,893 We're not gonna play games with him. 409 00:19:03,977 --> 00:19:06,396 We're gonna be very honest. I said, uh, 410 00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:09,065 "Dave, Barbara's dead." He went berserk. 411 00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:10,984 Just yelling and screaming. 412 00:19:11,067 --> 00:19:13,820 -[Souza] Absolutely. -He throws a chair. 413 00:19:13,903 --> 00:19:16,447 He starts taking all these pills out of his pocket. 414 00:19:16,531 --> 00:19:18,992 He's slapping them on the table in front of us. 415 00:19:19,075 --> 00:19:21,327 "This is a rainbow," and he puts it in his mouth. 416 00:19:21,411 --> 00:19:23,621 Finally, he gets calmed down, and we said, 417 00:19:23,705 --> 00:19:25,623 "Do you want to tell us who did it? 418 00:19:25,707 --> 00:19:28,793 Who did this, David? You know. Tell us." 419 00:19:28,877 --> 00:19:31,838 He starts talking right away. 420 00:19:31,921 --> 00:19:34,007 "This got to be the robbery." 421 00:19:34,090 --> 00:19:36,467 He tells us that he and Launius and Deverell 422 00:19:36,551 --> 00:19:39,012 went up and robbed this dope dealer, 423 00:19:39,095 --> 00:19:41,180 Eddie Nash, two days earlier. 424 00:19:41,264 --> 00:19:43,182 And he's continually taking pills. 425 00:19:43,266 --> 00:19:44,851 "This is a dragonfly. 426 00:19:44,934 --> 00:19:47,520 This is a Christmas tree. This is a raindrop." 427 00:19:47,604 --> 00:19:49,522 He's getting higher than hell, 428 00:19:49,606 --> 00:19:52,358 and he starts to talk about John Holmes, porn actor. 429 00:19:52,442 --> 00:19:54,110 We knew the name. 430 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:56,487 ♪♪ 431 00:19:56,571 --> 00:19:59,657 He says, "Holmes kind of set this robbery up. 432 00:19:59,741 --> 00:20:03,369 He left the back door open for us to get in." 433 00:20:03,453 --> 00:20:04,829 [Lind] We entered a bedroom, 434 00:20:04,913 --> 00:20:06,331 a guest bedroom, by a sliding glass door 435 00:20:06,414 --> 00:20:09,334 that had been left open by John Holmes 436 00:20:09,417 --> 00:20:13,046 the previous evening for the purpose of the robbery. 437 00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:18,551 I looked through the door of the bedroom down the hallway, 438 00:20:18,635 --> 00:20:20,011 and I could see Diles. 439 00:20:20,094 --> 00:20:24,015 It was Nash's bodyguard. 440 00:20:24,098 --> 00:20:25,850 [Lange] They got in some kind of a struggle. 441 00:20:25,934 --> 00:20:27,685 Lind had an accidental discharge on his weapon 442 00:20:27,769 --> 00:20:29,687 that grazed Greg Diles, 443 00:20:29,771 --> 00:20:32,357 who was a big bodyguard that Nash had. 444 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,737 I asked Nash for the combination and/or keys. 445 00:20:39,614 --> 00:20:43,409 He was rather reluctant to give me that information, 446 00:20:43,493 --> 00:20:47,580 so therefore I took the pistol I had in my hand, 447 00:20:47,664 --> 00:20:50,041 stuck it into his groin, 448 00:20:50,124 --> 00:20:54,712 and then removed it and stuck it in his mouth and cocked it. 449 00:20:54,796 --> 00:20:56,756 Talked about putting his gun in Nash's mouth. 450 00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:58,841 Yeah, "One of them, it had the son of a bitch down, 451 00:20:58,925 --> 00:21:01,427 and I put my gun in his mouth and he was crying and screaming. 452 00:21:01,511 --> 00:21:03,262 And we got into his safe." 453 00:21:03,346 --> 00:21:05,390 [Lind] And I told him I wanted the information, 454 00:21:05,473 --> 00:21:07,100 or I was gonna blow his head off. 455 00:21:07,183 --> 00:21:08,935 ♪♪ 456 00:21:09,018 --> 00:21:11,396 [Lange] They removed dope from the safe. 457 00:21:11,479 --> 00:21:13,898 They said they got about 100,000 bucks. 458 00:21:13,982 --> 00:21:16,526 And they took all that loot back to Wonderland, 459 00:21:16,609 --> 00:21:18,403 where Holmes was waiting for them. 460 00:21:18,486 --> 00:21:20,071 So, that's the link-up. 461 00:21:20,154 --> 00:21:23,574 That's where Holmes became kind of a link between Nash-- 462 00:21:23,658 --> 00:21:25,243 But--But Lind's telling you about this? 463 00:21:25,326 --> 00:21:28,454 So, like, Lind appears to be a gold mine. 464 00:21:28,538 --> 00:21:30,248 -Oh, yeah. -But it's all stuff 465 00:21:30,331 --> 00:21:33,626 you have to follow up on, but he laid out who robbed Nash. 466 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:34,627 -[Lange] Yeah. -And who was it? 467 00:21:34,711 --> 00:21:36,254 He told us what happened. 468 00:21:36,337 --> 00:21:38,631 [Connelly] It was Launius, Deverell, Lind, and... 469 00:21:38,715 --> 00:21:39,924 [Lange] Lind, and Tracy McCourt 470 00:21:40,008 --> 00:21:42,593 was the driver, the getaway driver, 471 00:21:42,677 --> 00:21:46,431 was in a car, stolen car, out in front of Nash's house, 472 00:21:46,514 --> 00:21:48,307 waiting for the three to come out. 473 00:21:48,391 --> 00:21:52,395 And Nash wanted these people that did this, who robbed him-- 474 00:21:52,478 --> 00:21:53,938 he wanted them killed. 475 00:21:54,022 --> 00:21:55,440 Every one of them, he wanted dead. 476 00:21:55,523 --> 00:21:57,108 He wanted revenge. 477 00:21:57,191 --> 00:21:59,110 He wanted to get back at these people. 478 00:21:59,193 --> 00:22:01,779 [Connelly] You had not heard the name Nash? 479 00:22:01,863 --> 00:22:04,115 [Lange] No. First time we heard any of this. 480 00:22:04,198 --> 00:22:06,576 John Holmes, same. We hadn't heard any of this. 481 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:08,661 This was a Scooby-Doo moment. Believe me. 482 00:22:08,745 --> 00:22:10,455 Scooby-Doo moment. Yeah. 483 00:22:10,538 --> 00:22:12,290 This is how we got the first break. 484 00:22:12,373 --> 00:22:14,751 We found out how this was probably motivated. 485 00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:18,296 Now we know that he's connected to Ed Nash. 486 00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:20,965 And I knew Nash from Hollywood. 487 00:22:21,049 --> 00:22:23,801 He started at a hot dog stand, 488 00:22:23,885 --> 00:22:25,178 and that grew into, uh, 489 00:22:25,261 --> 00:22:27,847 he became quite a nightclub owner. 490 00:22:27,930 --> 00:22:29,932 And it wasn't just entertainment he was into. 491 00:22:30,016 --> 00:22:32,477 He got into drugs as well. 492 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,772 [Connelly] Eddie Nash's real name was Adel Nasrallah. 493 00:22:35,855 --> 00:22:37,315 Born in Palestine, 494 00:22:37,398 --> 00:22:40,151 Nash came to Los Angeles in the early '50s 495 00:22:40,234 --> 00:22:41,652 with dreams of becoming an actor. 496 00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,783 Here's my boy. Nash, meet Mr. Butler. 497 00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:48,201 -[man] Go! -[gunshot] 498 00:22:50,953 --> 00:22:53,831 [Connelly] Other than a single episode of The Cisco Kid, 499 00:22:53,915 --> 00:22:55,792 Nash's acting career went nowhere. 500 00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:57,335 ♪♪ 501 00:22:57,418 --> 00:22:59,462 [Eggar] Eddie Nash wanted to be an actor. 502 00:22:59,545 --> 00:23:01,005 People come to L.A. 503 00:23:01,089 --> 00:23:02,715 with that big dream. 504 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:06,844 So he's just another story on the boulevard of broken dreams? 505 00:23:06,928 --> 00:23:08,763 He was, uh, just another story. 506 00:23:10,598 --> 00:23:11,974 [Connelly] Can you talk about when 507 00:23:12,058 --> 00:23:14,185 Eddie Nash got on your radar? 508 00:23:14,268 --> 00:23:15,686 When I was working 509 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:20,358 that original undercover assignment back in '75, '76, 510 00:23:20,441 --> 00:23:24,529 it was the first time I had ever met Eddie Nash. 511 00:23:24,612 --> 00:23:29,158 He had many clubs in the Hollywood area. 512 00:23:29,242 --> 00:23:32,036 It was all about, "Look at me. I own this place." 513 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:34,372 You know, "You want to be somebody, 514 00:23:34,455 --> 00:23:36,374 you need to align yourself with me." 515 00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:39,377 He was claiming Mafia ties. 516 00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:41,921 He was claiming Israeli Mafia ties. 517 00:23:43,506 --> 00:23:45,675 Drugs were everywhere. 518 00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:49,887 Eddie Nash was always around in the clubs selling drugs. 519 00:23:51,681 --> 00:23:54,183 He was arrogant. Um, I thought he was dirty. 520 00:23:54,267 --> 00:23:56,519 He had a bad smell. 521 00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:58,104 I didn't like being around him. 522 00:23:58,187 --> 00:23:59,939 Did he ever get suspicious of you? 523 00:24:00,022 --> 00:24:04,443 Yeah, I was asked once to do a smaller buy, 524 00:24:04,527 --> 00:24:06,404 and he had his bodyguard, 525 00:24:06,487 --> 00:24:09,073 Greg Diles, put his hand on my back 526 00:24:09,157 --> 00:24:11,701 like he was checking for a wire or something. 527 00:24:11,784 --> 00:24:14,412 You know, you got power people, 528 00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:15,788 you got celebrities. 529 00:24:15,872 --> 00:24:18,249 Liberace was invested, 530 00:24:18,332 --> 00:24:21,919 and John Holmes, the porno king, was there. 531 00:24:22,003 --> 00:24:25,089 Quite often, we would see him out and about in Hollywood. 532 00:24:25,173 --> 00:24:27,300 [horn honks, siren wailing] 533 00:24:27,383 --> 00:24:29,468 [crew] Speed. Mark. Marker. 534 00:24:29,552 --> 00:24:31,470 [Holmes] Keeping track of the films and averaging out 535 00:24:31,554 --> 00:24:33,973 how many girls you go to bed with in each film helped a lot. 536 00:24:34,056 --> 00:24:35,808 Just slightly over 14,000. 537 00:24:38,311 --> 00:24:41,772 He was doing longer feature films at that time. 538 00:24:41,856 --> 00:24:45,067 This is when he was being paid his most, 539 00:24:45,151 --> 00:24:48,988 and it's at the same time he started into drugs. 540 00:24:50,698 --> 00:24:52,450 [crew] Deputy D.A. Robert Schirn. 541 00:24:53,910 --> 00:24:55,411 I knew John Holmes 542 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:56,996 because we had something in the office 543 00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,624 called the Pornography Task Force. 544 00:24:59,707 --> 00:25:01,626 ♪♪ 545 00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:03,169 We'd meet every couple of months 546 00:25:03,252 --> 00:25:04,587 and discuss the current trends 547 00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:07,131 of the types of movies they were making, 548 00:25:07,215 --> 00:25:09,592 whether the movies were, in fact, pornographic 549 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,802 and should be prosecuted. 550 00:25:11,886 --> 00:25:14,889 ♪♪ 551 00:25:19,227 --> 00:25:22,021 These meetings were some of the best-attended meetings 552 00:25:22,104 --> 00:25:25,149 because we'd show clips from some of the new 553 00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:28,110 pornographic movies as part of our presentation. 554 00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:30,863 ♪♪ 555 00:25:30,947 --> 00:25:33,658 Oh, yeah, Johnny Wadd. 556 00:25:33,741 --> 00:25:37,161 His movies weren't the type that we would want to prosecute, 557 00:25:37,245 --> 00:25:41,374 but he was still probably the biggest star at that time 558 00:25:41,457 --> 00:25:43,501 in the porno movie industry. 559 00:25:43,584 --> 00:25:45,586 He has a weapon. 560 00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:49,548 [Schirn] So, Tom Lange 561 00:25:49,632 --> 00:25:52,677 came to me and said, "We have a witness 562 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,680 that we think can really help solve our case." 563 00:25:55,763 --> 00:25:58,057 They told me that Holmes was 564 00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:00,017 right in the middle of everything, 565 00:26:00,101 --> 00:26:02,061 that he could connect the Eddie Nash group 566 00:26:02,144 --> 00:26:04,355 with the Wonderland group. 567 00:26:04,438 --> 00:26:07,066 So, from the moment Eddie Nash's name comes up, 568 00:26:07,149 --> 00:26:10,528 what's-- what's the next move? 569 00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:14,073 We wanted to talk to Nash right from the beginning. 570 00:26:14,156 --> 00:26:16,367 So, we approached our lieutenant, 571 00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:17,618 who went in and talked to our captain. 572 00:26:20,788 --> 00:26:22,832 Our lieutenant came right back out, said, "No, 573 00:26:22,915 --> 00:26:24,041 we don't want you to talk to Ed Nash." 574 00:26:24,125 --> 00:26:26,252 So, you're told don't approach 575 00:26:26,335 --> 00:26:28,087 Eddie Nash yet or ever? 576 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:30,756 No, just, it was, "Don't talk to him." 577 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,216 How did you get around that? 578 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,593 Well, the sheriff's narcotics had contacted us, 579 00:26:34,677 --> 00:26:36,095 and they had an undercover officer 580 00:26:36,178 --> 00:26:38,180 that had bought dope at Nash's house. 581 00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:39,890 And once they had that information, 582 00:26:39,974 --> 00:26:42,101 they got a search warrant for the house. 583 00:26:42,184 --> 00:26:44,562 And once they had the warrant, they contacted Tom and I 584 00:26:44,645 --> 00:26:46,397 and invited us along because 585 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,232 they knew we were handling that Laurel Canyon murder. 586 00:26:48,316 --> 00:26:51,360 We had information that, uh, Eddie Nash 587 00:26:51,444 --> 00:26:55,072 was in possession of a quantity of cocaine. 588 00:26:55,156 --> 00:26:57,700 And, uh, as a result of that information, 589 00:26:57,783 --> 00:26:59,577 we obtained a search warrant. 590 00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:01,537 [Schirn] I helped write the search warrant, 591 00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:04,248 and there was not mention at all that there was 592 00:27:04,332 --> 00:27:06,667 a murder being investigated in the background. 593 00:27:11,005 --> 00:27:13,049 So, I was sitting in a car 594 00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:18,888 while the sheriff's bureau was conducting a tactical entry. 595 00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:20,765 They wanted to secure the premises. 596 00:27:20,848 --> 00:27:23,309 [Lange] Their tactic was to surround the house, 597 00:27:23,392 --> 00:27:26,937 knock out all the windows, flash bang the front door. 598 00:27:27,021 --> 00:27:28,481 This was a so-called no-knock warrant. 599 00:27:28,564 --> 00:27:31,275 It's about as no-knock as you could get, I guess. 600 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,445 [Schirn] Suddenly, we heard some gunshots 601 00:27:34,528 --> 00:27:35,988 coming from the residence. 602 00:27:36,072 --> 00:27:38,407 Diles opened up on the team, 603 00:27:38,491 --> 00:27:40,326 fired on them with a nine-millimeter. 604 00:27:40,409 --> 00:27:43,788 So, they returned fire with a shotgun. 605 00:27:43,871 --> 00:27:47,249 Finally, they realized it was the police and surrendered. 606 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:51,420 We found a quantity of cocaine in the safe, 607 00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:56,342 along with a number of Quaaludes, 608 00:27:56,425 --> 00:28:00,179 in addition to approximately $6,000 in cash. 609 00:28:00,262 --> 00:28:03,182 [Lange] So they called us in, 610 00:28:03,265 --> 00:28:07,520 and we found a bunch of, uh, affidavits and warrants 611 00:28:07,603 --> 00:28:11,273 and other intelligence reports beneath his bed. 612 00:28:11,357 --> 00:28:12,608 So, it's pretty obvious to us, then, 613 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:14,276 that he had somebody inside. 614 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:16,654 When does he know you guys are on 615 00:28:16,737 --> 00:28:18,489 to what happened at Wonderland? 616 00:28:18,572 --> 00:28:20,324 -Right then. No, he knew then. -At that point. 617 00:28:20,408 --> 00:28:21,992 He says, "What the fuck are you guys doing here?" 618 00:28:22,076 --> 00:28:23,953 "What are homicide guys doing?" He knew then. 619 00:28:24,036 --> 00:28:26,622 ♪♪ 620 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,333 [Schirn] When I was finally allowed to go to the location, 621 00:28:29,417 --> 00:28:33,003 the one suspect that I saw was Greg Diles, 622 00:28:33,087 --> 00:28:37,842 who was the 350-pound bodyguard of Eddie Nash. 623 00:28:37,925 --> 00:28:41,804 He was laying on a pool table without any clothes on 624 00:28:41,887 --> 00:28:43,347 and handcuffed behind his back. 625 00:28:43,431 --> 00:28:45,850 -[camera shutter clicking] -[man] Hi, Greg! 626 00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:48,769 ♪♪ 627 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:54,984 [Schirn] The case was assigned to a deputy in my unit 628 00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:56,861 named Ron Coen, 629 00:28:56,944 --> 00:29:00,197 and he did file charges against both Nash and Diles 630 00:29:00,281 --> 00:29:02,533 as a result of the evidence recovered. 631 00:29:02,616 --> 00:29:05,411 [crew] Deputy District Attorney Ron Coen, marker. 632 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:10,374 So, this massacre happens in the, uh, 633 00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:12,835 you know, on Wonderland Avenue. 634 00:29:12,918 --> 00:29:14,837 At what point did that become your case? 635 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,423 It became my case right after the first raid 636 00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:18,924 on Eddie Nash's house. 637 00:29:19,008 --> 00:29:21,385 Bob Schirn, my boss, 638 00:29:21,469 --> 00:29:24,513 came in and gave me the case. 639 00:29:24,597 --> 00:29:29,059 The next day, Eddie Nash was arrested for dope. 640 00:29:29,143 --> 00:29:31,187 Diles, not only for the drugs, 641 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:34,398 but he fired at a deputy sheriff, 642 00:29:34,482 --> 00:29:35,858 so it was assault on a peace officer. 643 00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:39,069 And later, I basically had all cases 644 00:29:39,153 --> 00:29:40,738 that dealt with Eddie Nash 645 00:29:40,821 --> 00:29:43,407 and anybody that was connected to Eddie Nash. 646 00:29:43,491 --> 00:29:47,036 [Connelly] So you became the Eddie Nash guy. 647 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,705 How big was Eddie Nash that he would get a prosecutor 648 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:51,790 assigned to all things... 649 00:29:51,874 --> 00:29:55,211 Well, he was suspected to be a major crime figure. 650 00:29:55,294 --> 00:29:57,588 And I was aware that he was a suspect in the murders, 651 00:29:57,671 --> 00:30:00,090 along with Greg Diles and others. 652 00:30:00,174 --> 00:30:04,595 And the issue was to try and eventually get to that. 653 00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:09,600 Okay, so where does John Holmes come into this? 654 00:30:09,683 --> 00:30:12,311 John Holmes was suspected from the very beginning 655 00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:14,730 of being involved. 656 00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:21,278 Um, and the first I hear about John Holmes, 657 00:30:21,362 --> 00:30:25,324 uh, was from Tom Lange and Bob Souza. 658 00:30:25,407 --> 00:30:28,661 [Lange] Holmes was a linchpin, number one on our list. 659 00:30:28,744 --> 00:30:31,622 And so we put out a warrant on him, did we? 660 00:30:31,705 --> 00:30:33,958 Yeah, and he was hanging out at these little dingy motels 661 00:30:34,041 --> 00:30:35,584 all along Ventura Boulevard. -Ventura Boulevard. 662 00:30:35,668 --> 00:30:37,920 [Lange] Yeah, running around with his girlfriend. 663 00:30:38,003 --> 00:30:39,588 He was on the run, basically. 664 00:30:39,672 --> 00:30:42,132 He was on the run, basically, 'cause he knew what happened, 665 00:30:42,216 --> 00:30:44,134 and he knew sooner or later we'd be looking for him. 666 00:30:44,218 --> 00:30:46,804 [Connelly] John Holmes' mistress, Dawn Schiller, 667 00:30:46,887 --> 00:30:49,306 learned of the massacre at Wonderland 668 00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:51,642 while hiding with John in a motel. 669 00:30:51,725 --> 00:30:53,852 [reporter] We have just received tape from Los Angeles 670 00:30:53,936 --> 00:30:56,272 on today's developments in those gruesome murders in the... 671 00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:57,982 [Schiller] I knew the house, 672 00:30:58,065 --> 00:30:59,483 and my heart just went into my gut 673 00:30:59,567 --> 00:31:02,653 because I just knew there was something wrong. 674 00:31:02,736 --> 00:31:05,364 He got back, and I didn't say anything. 675 00:31:05,447 --> 00:31:07,992 He just looked exhausted. He took, like, 676 00:31:08,075 --> 00:31:10,536 a couple of Valiums and laid down and went to sleep. 677 00:31:10,619 --> 00:31:13,664 He tossed and turned and he screamed, "Blood, blood! 678 00:31:13,747 --> 00:31:15,624 There was so much blood." 679 00:31:15,708 --> 00:31:17,876 That's when the door was kicked in, 680 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,128 and we were arrested by the police. 681 00:31:19,211 --> 00:31:21,005 [siren wails, police radio chatter] 682 00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:23,215 [Connelly] On July 11, 1981, 683 00:31:23,299 --> 00:31:25,301 one day after the raid on Nash's home, 684 00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,678 and ten days after the murders, 685 00:31:27,761 --> 00:31:29,513 Lange and Souza were told 686 00:31:29,597 --> 00:31:32,141 that John Holmes was being held in protective custody 687 00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:35,019 at the Biltmore Hotel in downtown L.A. 688 00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:36,979 [crew] Detective Mac McClain. Marker. 689 00:31:37,062 --> 00:31:39,857 Let's start at the beginning. 690 00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:43,527 John Holmes is taken into protective custody. 691 00:31:43,611 --> 00:31:45,404 Just kind of talk me through what happened. 692 00:31:45,487 --> 00:31:48,032 I had heard about the murders on the news, 693 00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:50,034 but that was about the extent of it. 694 00:31:50,117 --> 00:31:52,536 And the next thing I know, they call me and they goes, 695 00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:54,580 "You're gonna be in charge of the night watch 696 00:31:54,663 --> 00:31:56,373 guarding John Holmes." 697 00:31:56,457 --> 00:32:00,377 They said, "We're concerned that Ed Nash and his people 698 00:32:00,461 --> 00:32:05,174 might try to kill him, so we want to protect him." 699 00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:08,218 I had heard of him even before the murders, 700 00:32:08,302 --> 00:32:10,220 you know, being this big porno star, 701 00:32:10,304 --> 00:32:14,600 and he did this detective series called Johnny Wadd. 702 00:32:14,683 --> 00:32:16,852 But then I had heard from some of the other policemen that, 703 00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:19,438 you know, he was hooked on drugs, 704 00:32:19,521 --> 00:32:21,940 and he went downhill from being a famous porn star 705 00:32:22,024 --> 00:32:24,610 to just a drug addict. 706 00:32:24,693 --> 00:32:26,362 I guess at that point, 707 00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:28,447 they weren't looking at him as a suspect. 708 00:32:28,530 --> 00:32:30,407 They were looking at him as a witness if he'd open up. 709 00:32:30,491 --> 00:32:31,825 At that time, yeah. 710 00:32:35,162 --> 00:32:37,748 I first reached him at the Biltmore, 711 00:32:37,831 --> 00:32:39,124 and they said that he's up there 712 00:32:39,208 --> 00:32:41,085 with his girlfriend and his wife, 713 00:32:41,168 --> 00:32:43,921 which I thought was unusual. 714 00:32:44,004 --> 00:32:45,631 Yeah, I mean, did you say, like, "What?" 715 00:32:45,714 --> 00:32:47,591 That's exactly what I said. "What?" 716 00:32:47,675 --> 00:32:53,055 John was trying to work out a deal with the police, 717 00:32:53,138 --> 00:32:56,266 and, you know, he called and said, "Will you come? 718 00:32:56,350 --> 00:32:58,143 Because I'll need you." 719 00:32:58,227 --> 00:33:00,896 My private understanding of our relationship 720 00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:03,649 was that I was his mistress, and we all lived together, 721 00:33:03,732 --> 00:33:05,943 and that was that. 722 00:33:06,026 --> 00:33:08,070 And I accepted that that was good 723 00:33:08,153 --> 00:33:09,488 because I loved Sharon at that point. 724 00:33:09,571 --> 00:33:11,073 I wouldn't want to be without her. 725 00:33:11,156 --> 00:33:13,951 [McClain] And they're ordering lobster and steak, 726 00:33:14,034 --> 00:33:15,285 and I go, "What?" 727 00:33:15,369 --> 00:33:17,621 I goes, "And you let them do that?" 728 00:33:17,705 --> 00:33:20,457 He goes, "Yeah," and I goes, "Well, that stops on my watch. 729 00:33:20,541 --> 00:33:22,292 He's not gonna be getting any steak and lobster." 730 00:33:22,376 --> 00:33:25,796 For some reason, I didn't trust him. 731 00:33:25,879 --> 00:33:27,840 [Connelly] While Mac McClain stood guard 732 00:33:27,923 --> 00:33:30,008 at the Biltmore Hotel, seven detectives, 733 00:33:30,092 --> 00:33:32,302 including Tom Lange, Bob Souza, 734 00:33:32,386 --> 00:33:35,931 and prosecutor Bob Schirn, questioned John Holmes. 735 00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:38,600 [Schirn] What Holmes told us in the interview at the Biltmore 736 00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:42,980 clearly establishes who was involved in the robbery. 737 00:33:43,063 --> 00:33:46,150 He was useful in the interview to at least identify 738 00:33:46,233 --> 00:33:48,819 David Lind, Ron, and Billy 739 00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:51,321 as the persons who had gone through Nash's residence, 740 00:33:51,405 --> 00:33:53,031 robbed him, 741 00:33:53,114 --> 00:33:56,201 and then in retaliation, they got killed themselves. 742 00:33:56,285 --> 00:33:58,620 So, he started off strong, gave you stuff you needed. 743 00:33:58,703 --> 00:33:59,997 You must have been pretty hopeful. 744 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,375 [Schirn] Well, he started off very well. 745 00:34:03,459 --> 00:34:06,502 You know, John told us he was buying dope from 746 00:34:06,587 --> 00:34:10,299 both the Wonderland people and from Eddie Nash, 747 00:34:10,382 --> 00:34:12,676 and he bought more than he could afford, 748 00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:15,511 and that's what started the, uh, bad blood. 749 00:34:15,596 --> 00:34:19,183 But then he gave a story that was just so unbelievable. 750 00:34:19,266 --> 00:34:21,018 He was kidnapped by two people 751 00:34:21,101 --> 00:34:23,645 that coerced him into going into the house 752 00:34:23,729 --> 00:34:25,522 and leaving the door unlocked. 753 00:34:25,605 --> 00:34:29,692 But he never looked at their face, could not identify anyone. 754 00:34:29,777 --> 00:34:33,404 You could sort of tell that he was just afraid to name names. 755 00:34:33,489 --> 00:34:36,158 The one detective who immediately 756 00:34:36,241 --> 00:34:39,036 started asking questions was Tom Lange. 757 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,663 He sort of challenged Holmes through some of the answers 758 00:34:41,747 --> 00:34:43,999 he had given us, but Holmes kept saying, 759 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:46,210 "No, no, I'm being square with your guys. 760 00:34:46,293 --> 00:34:48,003 I'm telling the truth." 761 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:50,339 And so the officers asked 762 00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:52,382 if Holmes would take a lie detector. 763 00:34:52,466 --> 00:34:55,052 And Holmes, with the advice of his attorney, 764 00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:57,095 said, "I will not take a polygraph." 765 00:34:57,179 --> 00:34:58,722 So, Holmes-- did he cooperate? 766 00:34:58,806 --> 00:35:00,224 It seemed like there was a long dance 767 00:35:00,307 --> 00:35:03,560 where he was just taking advantage of getting to stay 768 00:35:03,644 --> 00:35:05,229 at the Biltmore or something. 769 00:35:05,312 --> 00:35:06,688 You just--You just said it. He's taking advantage. 770 00:35:06,772 --> 00:35:08,774 He's got the suite at the Biltmore, 771 00:35:08,857 --> 00:35:10,108 the vice president's suite. 772 00:35:10,192 --> 00:35:12,069 He's--He's ordering this expensive scotch. 773 00:35:12,152 --> 00:35:15,572 The way you treat a dope addict under these conditions, 774 00:35:15,656 --> 00:35:18,534 is you don't put him up in the vice presidential suite 775 00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:21,453 and feed him steak and scotch 776 00:35:21,537 --> 00:35:23,121 with his girlfriend and his wife. 777 00:35:25,999 --> 00:35:27,751 [Schirn] After the interview was over, 778 00:35:27,835 --> 00:35:30,128 you know, we all got together, and one of the detectives 779 00:35:30,212 --> 00:35:32,965 sort of said, "What bullshit." 780 00:35:33,048 --> 00:35:37,636 So, he ultimately refused to cooperate, and he was cut loose? 781 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,429 -He was allowed to leave? -Yes, yes. 782 00:35:39,513 --> 00:35:40,889 And when he was cut loose from the Biltmore, 783 00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:43,100 where do you suppose the first place he went? 784 00:35:43,183 --> 00:35:45,936 We found him one hour later at Ed Nash's house. 785 00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:48,438 ♪♪ 786 00:35:48,522 --> 00:35:50,440 [Souza] After he just told us he was terrified of Ed. 787 00:35:50,524 --> 00:35:52,818 Yeah, he's like, "This guy is terrible. 788 00:35:52,901 --> 00:35:55,779 He's a terrible guy, and I don't want anything to do with him." 789 00:35:55,863 --> 00:35:57,489 [Connelly] After the raid, Eddie Nash's house 790 00:35:57,573 --> 00:36:00,158 was under constant police surveillance. 791 00:36:00,242 --> 00:36:01,785 In addition to John Holmes, 792 00:36:01,869 --> 00:36:05,664 there was another frequent visitor--Scott Thorson. 793 00:36:05,747 --> 00:36:08,500 At the time, little was known about Scott Thorson, 794 00:36:08,584 --> 00:36:11,336 other than that he was Liberace's young lover 795 00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:15,465 and a frequent visitor to Nash's clubs and home. 796 00:36:15,549 --> 00:36:16,967 [Lange] We'd heard of Scott Thorson. 797 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:20,137 We knew that he was at Nash's place early on. 798 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:22,806 He was somebody that we wanted to talk to, 799 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:25,017 but we never got that shot, never got that chance. 800 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,519 We didn't hear from him for, like, eight years, 801 00:36:27,603 --> 00:36:29,605 nine years later. 802 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:31,148 [Connelly] It would be nearly a decade 803 00:36:31,231 --> 00:36:33,108 before anyone discovered what Scott Thorson knew 804 00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:34,651 about the murders. 805 00:36:34,735 --> 00:36:37,946 Back in 1981, all law enforcement could do 806 00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:41,199 was keep the pressure on John Holmes and Eddie Nash. 807 00:36:41,283 --> 00:36:44,161 So, someone overdosed in the house and died. 808 00:36:44,244 --> 00:36:45,787 ♪♪ 809 00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:47,998 When someone overdoses with drugs, 810 00:36:48,081 --> 00:36:50,000 there's a good chance, a great likelihood 811 00:36:50,083 --> 00:36:51,627 that there's still drugs in the house. 812 00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:53,795 That's probable cause. Let's make another raid. 813 00:36:53,879 --> 00:36:56,465 We did another search at the house. 814 00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:59,176 Same routine, this time with our own SWAT. 815 00:36:59,259 --> 00:37:01,011 No shots fired this time. 816 00:37:01,094 --> 00:37:05,182 They went in, got more dope, got more money. 817 00:37:05,265 --> 00:37:07,684 So, we had three of these things now, and, uh... 818 00:37:07,768 --> 00:37:09,895 [Connelly] But you weren't allowed to talk to him? 819 00:37:09,978 --> 00:37:11,188 You were just allowed to search him, search his property? 820 00:37:11,271 --> 00:37:12,814 Yes. "Don't talk to Ed Nash." 821 00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:15,359 [Souza] I know we could have gotten 822 00:37:15,442 --> 00:37:18,362 some information out of him, but we didn't know 823 00:37:18,445 --> 00:37:20,739 what was really going on behind the scenes at that point. 824 00:37:20,822 --> 00:37:22,240 No. [chuckles] 825 00:37:22,324 --> 00:37:24,534 But it was pretty heavy, as we found out. 826 00:37:24,618 --> 00:37:27,037 So, I mean, I'm the amateur sitting outside this. 827 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,750 Did it occur to you that he's got his hands 828 00:37:31,833 --> 00:37:34,670 on somebody in the hierarchy... -Oh, yeah. 829 00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:36,672 ...that doesn't want that to come out. 830 00:37:36,755 --> 00:37:38,382 -That's right. -So, you cannot talk to him? 831 00:37:38,465 --> 00:37:39,549 Probably. You know, we haven't proven that. 832 00:37:39,633 --> 00:37:41,051 We don't know for sure. 833 00:37:41,134 --> 00:37:43,679 But it fits with some of your assumptions, right? 834 00:37:43,762 --> 00:37:45,722 It certainly sounds pretty damn good to me. 835 00:37:45,806 --> 00:37:48,392 [Connelly] The three raids on Nash's house 836 00:37:48,475 --> 00:37:50,936 resulted in Eddie Nash and Greg Diles 837 00:37:51,019 --> 00:37:53,397 being charged with possession of controlled substances 838 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,399 with intent to sell. 839 00:37:55,482 --> 00:37:57,192 [judge] The defendant will be committed 840 00:37:57,275 --> 00:38:00,237 to the custody of Sheriff of Los Angeles County, 841 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,072 uh, pending the posting of bail 842 00:38:02,155 --> 00:38:05,450 in the sum of $10 million in this matter. 843 00:38:05,534 --> 00:38:07,077 [Connelly] During the bail hearing, 844 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,913 detectives Bob Souza and Tom Lange were in the courtroom. 845 00:38:09,997 --> 00:38:11,748 Lange testified as to why 846 00:38:11,832 --> 00:38:14,418 he thought Eddie Nash was a flight risk. 847 00:38:14,501 --> 00:38:18,755 Approximately one hour after Mr. Diles was booked, 848 00:38:18,839 --> 00:38:21,299 Mr. Nash was observed 849 00:38:21,383 --> 00:38:27,931 to leave his residence with two flight bags in a run. 850 00:38:28,015 --> 00:38:32,769 Mr. Nasrallah is not going to flee. 851 00:38:32,853 --> 00:38:35,230 [Connelly] In one of the many surprising moves in this case, 852 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:38,066 Judge Ricks cut the bail by half. 853 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:40,777 All right, I'll reduce it to $5 million, then. 854 00:38:40,861 --> 00:38:43,488 That pissed us off. That was total bullshit. 855 00:38:43,572 --> 00:38:46,116 It seemed that somebody else had an agenda. 856 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,285 Said, "Well, how are we gonna get to the bottom of this? 857 00:38:48,368 --> 00:38:50,454 We need to know what's going on." 858 00:38:50,537 --> 00:38:51,288 So, this is the type of crap that we were up with 859 00:38:51,371 --> 00:38:53,790 and not used to. 860 00:38:53,874 --> 00:38:56,418 [Connelly] Pending drug charges brought by Ron Coen, 861 00:38:56,501 --> 00:39:00,964 both Greg Diles and Eddie Nash were released on bail. 862 00:39:01,048 --> 00:39:03,133 Prohibited from questioning Eddie Nash, 863 00:39:03,216 --> 00:39:06,011 Lange and Souza decided to question Susan Launius, 864 00:39:06,094 --> 00:39:07,596 who had regained consciousness 865 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,973 and was being guarded by police at the hospital. 866 00:39:10,057 --> 00:39:11,850 [reporter] A female victim 867 00:39:11,933 --> 00:39:13,977 found bleeding to death for 12 hours in a bedroom 868 00:39:14,061 --> 00:39:16,813 was taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. 869 00:39:16,897 --> 00:39:20,108 The 25-year-old woman underwent four hours of surgery 870 00:39:20,192 --> 00:39:22,986 to repair damage to her head, neck, and one finger. 871 00:39:23,070 --> 00:39:24,654 [McClain] After the Biltmore, 872 00:39:24,738 --> 00:39:26,823 I was responsible for guarding 873 00:39:26,907 --> 00:39:29,785 the victim, Susan Launius. 874 00:39:29,868 --> 00:39:32,704 We had a list of people that were allowed to come in there, 875 00:39:32,788 --> 00:39:34,873 and we were checking ID. 876 00:39:34,956 --> 00:39:39,836 [Lange] She was our only link initially to what was going on. 877 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,505 She was there. That makes her a witness. 878 00:39:41,588 --> 00:39:43,381 Not just a victim, but a witness. 879 00:39:43,465 --> 00:39:46,176 She may have seen something. She may have heard something. 880 00:39:46,259 --> 00:39:48,011 We don't know. 881 00:39:48,095 --> 00:39:51,348 I found this tape recently going through a box in my garage. 882 00:39:51,431 --> 00:39:54,309 I didn't even realize I had it. It's a three-minute cassette, 883 00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:57,729 and it's the first attempt to interview Susie Launius. 884 00:39:57,813 --> 00:39:59,523 It's a couple of weeks later. 885 00:39:59,606 --> 00:40:02,692 The doctor didn't want us around her for a while 886 00:40:02,776 --> 00:40:05,695 because she wasn't expected to make it, and she did. 887 00:40:05,779 --> 00:40:07,864 So, this is the first attempt at just to try to -- 888 00:40:07,948 --> 00:40:11,493 try to get some direction as to a suspect, 889 00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:13,537 to see if she might have known who did this 890 00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:15,413 or if she could give us anything at all. 891 00:41:15,015 --> 00:41:16,474 [voice breaks] 892 00:41:19,019 --> 00:41:20,937 She's getting stressed, and that's about it. 893 00:41:21,021 --> 00:41:22,397 [recorder clicks off] 894 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,065 We sound a little stern. 895 00:41:24,149 --> 00:41:26,443 You know, we're trying to get some information from her. 896 00:41:26,526 --> 00:41:29,446 We wanted her to realize that this is all business. 897 00:41:29,529 --> 00:41:31,281 And, "I'm sorry you feel bad, 898 00:41:31,364 --> 00:41:34,242 but can you remember anything at all?" type of thing. 899 00:41:34,326 --> 00:41:37,245 The last comment you heard, she's really getting stressed. 900 00:41:37,329 --> 00:41:39,456 And we knew we weren't gonna get anything after that. 901 00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:42,792 [Connelly] With no new breakthroughs 902 00:41:42,876 --> 00:41:45,295 from Susan Launius, Lange and Souza reached out 903 00:41:45,378 --> 00:41:48,089 to one of their last remaining leads, 904 00:41:48,173 --> 00:41:51,009 John Holmes' wife, Sharon. 905 00:41:51,092 --> 00:41:53,178 So, we wanted to talk to Sharon Holmes 906 00:41:53,261 --> 00:41:55,180 because nobody had sat down with a formal interview 907 00:41:55,263 --> 00:41:56,640 other than this thing at the hotel 908 00:41:56,723 --> 00:42:00,477 where she wasn't talking about anything to anybody. 909 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,604 We went to see Sharon at her place. 910 00:42:02,687 --> 00:42:04,189 We said, "Okay, when did you first see John 911 00:42:04,272 --> 00:42:05,607 after this happened?" 912 00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:07,776 She says, "Well, I think it was July 2nd 913 00:42:07,859 --> 00:42:09,486 that he came to the house." 914 00:42:09,569 --> 00:42:11,154 I said, "Are you sure it was the 2nd?" 915 00:42:11,238 --> 00:42:14,366 And she wasn't sure. I think she was incorrect. 916 00:42:14,449 --> 00:42:16,159 I think she meant he came to the house on the 1st 917 00:42:16,243 --> 00:42:17,994 because he was all bloody, 918 00:42:18,078 --> 00:42:21,331 and he said if I could draw him a hot bath, he'd take a bath. 919 00:42:21,414 --> 00:42:23,500 So, he took all his bloody clothing off, 920 00:42:23,583 --> 00:42:25,001 and he took a bath and everything else. 921 00:42:25,085 --> 00:42:26,127 I'm thinking this is really good stuff. 922 00:42:26,211 --> 00:42:29,047 But she said she would never testify, 923 00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:31,675 she would never give us anything on John, period. 924 00:42:31,758 --> 00:42:33,885 ♪♪ 925 00:42:33,969 --> 00:42:36,012 [Connelly] Despite hitting roadblocks with witnesses, 926 00:42:36,096 --> 00:42:38,682 Lange and Souza continued to comb through the evidence, 927 00:42:38,765 --> 00:42:41,518 building their case with prosecutor Ron Coen. 928 00:42:41,601 --> 00:42:45,522 So, what was your relationship like with Lange and Souza? 929 00:42:45,605 --> 00:42:48,566 They were--they are the best investigators 930 00:42:48,650 --> 00:42:50,360 I've ever worked with. 931 00:42:50,443 --> 00:42:52,404 ♪♪ 932 00:42:52,487 --> 00:42:55,699 And they knew the case backwards and forwards. 933 00:42:55,782 --> 00:42:58,576 [Connelly] And so, as these guys are investigating 934 00:42:58,660 --> 00:43:01,329 the quadruple murder, updating you on what they got, 935 00:43:01,413 --> 00:43:07,043 you kind of focused on John Holmes. 936 00:43:07,127 --> 00:43:08,378 From the start, was it, 937 00:43:08,461 --> 00:43:10,505 how do we get John Holmes to flip? 938 00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:13,049 Or was it John Holmes might be a murderer? 939 00:43:13,133 --> 00:43:16,720 At that first interview in the hotel room 940 00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:20,265 when he had room service, he was just playing the game, 941 00:43:20,348 --> 00:43:22,726 but he was a witness. 942 00:43:22,809 --> 00:43:25,520 And as the investigation went on, 943 00:43:25,603 --> 00:43:27,731 it looked like, well, maybe he's a suspect. 944 00:43:27,814 --> 00:43:32,110 So, did something happen that changed the view 945 00:43:32,193 --> 00:43:35,405 of letting Holmes be running around out there loose? 946 00:43:35,488 --> 00:43:38,616 [Lange] Once the palm print became evident, 947 00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:41,411 the case changed. 948 00:43:41,494 --> 00:43:44,122 With the palm print of John Holmes 949 00:43:44,205 --> 00:43:47,250 on that bed railing, in the position that it was 950 00:43:47,334 --> 00:43:49,753 above the shattered skull of Ron Launius, 951 00:43:49,836 --> 00:43:53,298 who he hated and feared, it was a big question-- 952 00:43:53,381 --> 00:43:54,758 what the hell is he doing there? 953 00:43:54,841 --> 00:43:56,259 That was the game changer, right? 954 00:43:56,343 --> 00:43:58,053 That was the game changer right there. 955 00:43:58,136 --> 00:44:00,305 No longer was he a witness. 956 00:44:00,388 --> 00:44:03,141 He was a suspect. He was more than a suspect. 957 00:44:03,224 --> 00:44:05,477 He was a defendant now. 958 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,564 As soon as that came out, I had enough to charge. 959 00:44:09,647 --> 00:44:12,150 He's a killer. So, I filed the case. 960 00:44:14,027 --> 00:44:16,112 As soon as it happens, Holmes takes off. 961 00:44:18,907 --> 00:44:22,494 So, Holmes' girlfriend, Dawn, takes off with him. 962 00:44:22,577 --> 00:44:24,621 We don't know where she is. 963 00:44:24,704 --> 00:44:27,457 Within 24 hours of our release from the, the Biltmore, 964 00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:29,000 John and I took off. 965 00:44:29,084 --> 00:44:31,127 We got to his sister's house in Montana, 966 00:44:31,211 --> 00:44:33,129 and she let us stay for a couple days. 967 00:44:33,213 --> 00:44:34,631 A couple days later, we got a phone call 968 00:44:34,714 --> 00:44:36,341 from his mother in Ohio, telling us 969 00:44:36,424 --> 00:44:39,844 the FBI was just there, and they were looking for him. 970 00:44:39,928 --> 00:44:41,471 So, where are we gonna go? 971 00:44:41,554 --> 00:44:43,431 And I said, "Well, I was raised in Florida. 972 00:44:43,515 --> 00:44:45,308 Let's go to Florida." 973 00:44:45,392 --> 00:44:47,644 Dawn's brother is concerned 974 00:44:47,727 --> 00:44:50,814 that Holmes has been beating up his sister. 975 00:44:50,897 --> 00:44:53,316 He doesn't like Holmes. 976 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,318 He knows he's on drugs all the time. 977 00:44:55,402 --> 00:44:59,364 [Souza] And we convinced him that her life was in danger. 978 00:44:59,447 --> 00:45:02,033 So, we kind of won him over as a friend, which paid off later. 979 00:45:02,117 --> 00:45:04,327 So, we're in the office one day, and he calls. 980 00:45:04,411 --> 00:45:05,995 [telephone rings] 981 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:08,331 He says, "I heard from my sister Dawn. 982 00:45:08,415 --> 00:45:09,332 They're in Florida." 983 00:45:09,416 --> 00:45:14,671 ♪♪ 984 00:45:14,754 --> 00:45:16,548 [Schiller] We made it down to Florida, 985 00:45:16,631 --> 00:45:19,676 and we stopped at one of the cheapest hotels there, 986 00:45:19,759 --> 00:45:21,553 the Fountainhead Hotel. 987 00:45:21,636 --> 00:45:24,514 And it was a, you know, rundown kind of transition hotel. 988 00:45:24,597 --> 00:45:25,765 ♪♪ 989 00:45:31,479 --> 00:45:35,483 [Lange] So, it's decided that we would go down there 990 00:45:35,567 --> 00:45:38,695 and see if we could find John. 991 00:45:38,778 --> 00:45:42,365 So, we find the hotel, 992 00:45:42,449 --> 00:45:44,367 we set up around the hotel, 993 00:45:44,451 --> 00:45:46,870 and we think that it's gonna be a long night. 994 00:45:46,953 --> 00:45:48,413 Well, it was only about five minutes, 995 00:45:48,496 --> 00:45:50,206 and there he is. 996 00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:52,041 There's a party going on next door. 997 00:45:52,125 --> 00:45:53,543 We go in there. Oh, he's-- 998 00:45:53,626 --> 00:45:56,004 Now he's going into his Johnny Wadd routine. 999 00:45:56,087 --> 00:45:57,088 Speaking of business, I'd like to get this over with 1000 00:45:57,172 --> 00:45:58,882 as soon as we can. 1001 00:45:58,965 --> 00:46:00,508 I have to get back to the hotel and get some rest. 1002 00:46:00,592 --> 00:46:03,011 He's cocky and all this other stuff. 1003 00:46:03,094 --> 00:46:06,723 We cuff him up, take him out. The next day, we get on a plane. 1004 00:46:06,806 --> 00:46:09,767 [engine roars] 1005 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,275 On the plane, he's now gotten very quiet. 1006 00:46:17,358 --> 00:46:21,070 He's beginning to realize what's going on. 1007 00:46:21,154 --> 00:46:23,239 He says, "I gotta tell you, I had nothing to do 1008 00:46:23,323 --> 00:46:25,408 with any of this. It was Nash. Nash did it all." 1009 00:46:25,492 --> 00:46:28,953 But we get an admission, very important admission. 1010 00:46:29,037 --> 00:46:31,915 "Yes, I let him in." 1011 00:46:31,998 --> 00:46:35,251 So we land, and Bob books him 1012 00:46:35,335 --> 00:46:36,628 for the murders. 1013 00:46:36,711 --> 00:46:38,546 [reporter] Los Angeles police 1014 00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:41,382 said today they have arrested porno movie star John Holmes, 1015 00:46:41,466 --> 00:46:43,051 a suspect in a quadruple murder 1016 00:46:43,134 --> 00:46:45,428 in the Los Angeles area this summer. 1017 00:46:45,512 --> 00:46:47,764 He was arrested in Florida this weekend 1018 00:46:47,847 --> 00:46:49,807 by two Los Angeles homicide detectives. 1019 00:46:49,891 --> 00:46:52,977 Holmes now faces murder charges for the four bludgeoning deaths 1020 00:46:53,061 --> 00:46:55,480 that took place in the Hollywood Hills last July. 1021 00:46:55,563 --> 00:46:57,982 Authorities say Holmes was in the house the night 1022 00:46:58,066 --> 00:46:59,317 the four people were killed, but they would not say whether 1023 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,653 Holmes took part in the murders. 1024 00:47:01,736 --> 00:47:05,281 [Gates] We are taking our facts 1025 00:47:05,365 --> 00:47:08,826 and our evidence to the district attorney tomorrow, 1026 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:11,454 and hopeful that the district attorney will see fit 1027 00:47:11,538 --> 00:47:15,750 to file a complaint of murder on John Holmes 1028 00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:19,629 on--on that quadruple, quadruple murder. 1029 00:47:19,712 --> 00:47:22,298 [Connelly] So, Daryl Gates has a press conference 1030 00:47:22,382 --> 00:47:25,635 announcing the arrest, and, um, that's pretty good. 1031 00:47:25,718 --> 00:47:27,262 I mean, that's less than six months 1032 00:47:27,345 --> 00:47:29,472 from this very complicated murder. 1033 00:47:29,556 --> 00:47:32,141 You've--You've made a case, so you're feeling pretty good? 1034 00:47:32,225 --> 00:47:33,977 Oh, I'm feeling great. 1035 00:47:34,060 --> 00:47:37,480 Information came out through Holmes' statement 1036 00:47:37,564 --> 00:47:41,526 that, uh, shortly after the robbery, 1037 00:47:41,609 --> 00:47:43,820 Eddie Nash, uh, 1038 00:47:43,903 --> 00:47:47,532 forced Holmes to name the perpetrators of the robbery, 1039 00:47:47,615 --> 00:47:49,951 had Holmes led at gunpoint to the house 1040 00:47:50,034 --> 00:47:51,995 with unnamed killers. 1041 00:47:52,078 --> 00:47:53,371 [Connelly] Did you all ever say, like, 1042 00:47:53,454 --> 00:47:55,290 "This is never gonna go to trial. 1043 00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:57,166 This is an exercise in squeezing Holmes 1044 00:47:57,250 --> 00:48:00,295 so he cooperates, and then we take Nash to trial"? 1045 00:48:00,378 --> 00:48:02,380 Yeah. We call it the domino theory. 1046 00:48:02,463 --> 00:48:04,841 We're gonna get Holmes, we're gonna convict him, 1047 00:48:04,924 --> 00:48:06,551 and he's gonna make a deal. 1048 00:48:06,634 --> 00:48:11,180 We got the robbery laid out. They had a good case. 1049 00:48:11,264 --> 00:48:14,142 ♪♪ 1050 00:48:14,225 --> 00:48:15,727 [Connelly] But the Wonderland case, 1051 00:48:15,810 --> 00:48:17,812 shrouded in secrets, 1052 00:48:17,895 --> 00:48:19,731 was never going to be an easy win. 1053 00:48:19,814 --> 00:48:21,816 ♪♪ 1054 00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:23,526 This is the secret history of Hollywood, 1055 00:48:23,610 --> 00:48:26,696 that all these people move on this underground level 1056 00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:30,825 and know each other and connect, and to me, 1057 00:48:30,908 --> 00:48:34,037 it's always astounding 'cause this is such a big place. 1058 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,248 [Jackson] The interconnections keep jumping out at you 1059 00:48:37,332 --> 00:48:39,334 much more than you'd ever think they would. 1060 00:48:39,417 --> 00:48:42,086 It's like coincidence after coincidence after coincidence. 1061 00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:44,213 At some point, it's no longer a coincidence. 1062 00:48:44,297 --> 00:48:47,717 There are people that just keep showing up. 1063 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,344 I think we were talking about this one day, 1064 00:48:49,427 --> 00:48:51,929 and then you mentioned the name Scott Thorson. 1065 00:48:52,013 --> 00:48:54,932 You said something along the lines of, 1066 00:48:55,016 --> 00:48:56,059 "You got to talk to this guy." 1067 00:48:56,142 --> 00:48:59,729 And now here we are. 1068 00:48:59,812 --> 00:49:01,689 Yeah. [chuckles] 1069 00:49:01,773 --> 00:49:03,441 Just listening to him, 1070 00:49:03,524 --> 00:49:05,943 it's just-- you're gonna shake your head. 1071 00:49:06,027 --> 00:49:07,195 I mean, you can't help but shake your head 1072 00:49:07,278 --> 00:49:09,739 when you hear his story. 1073 00:49:09,822 --> 00:49:11,908 [Connelly] Though never implicated in the murders, 1074 00:49:11,991 --> 00:49:15,203 Scott Thorson, a.k.a. Jess Marlow, 1075 00:49:15,286 --> 00:49:18,164 held the key to unlocking the pieces of the puzzle. 1076 00:49:21,376 --> 00:49:22,502 [crew] Scott Thorson, a.k.a. Jess Marlow, marker. 1077 00:49:24,712 --> 00:49:28,216 So, you're at the center. You're the center of a wheel 1078 00:49:28,299 --> 00:49:31,219 of this story that's gone 40 years. 1079 00:49:31,302 --> 00:49:32,762 And I know it's 40 years ago, 1080 00:49:32,845 --> 00:49:34,806 but can you tell me what 1081 00:49:34,889 --> 00:49:36,599 Eddie said to Diles when he said, 1082 00:49:36,683 --> 00:49:39,435 "Take John, go up to-- go back to Wonderland?" 1083 00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:41,479 "Kill these people." He wanted... 1084 00:49:41,562 --> 00:49:43,106 He wanted them dead. Eddie Nash was evil. 1085 00:49:43,189 --> 00:49:44,774 He didn't have a heart. 1086 00:49:44,857 --> 00:49:47,276 You know, he wanted that revenge. 1087 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,612 And he enjoyed everything that happened up there. 1088 00:49:49,696 --> 00:49:52,407 That's when I really got scared, you know, 1089 00:49:52,490 --> 00:49:54,450 uh, because I felt that I knew too much. 1090 00:49:54,534 --> 00:49:57,120 So, you lived under this threat or this fear? 1091 00:49:57,203 --> 00:49:58,788 Absolutely I did. 1092 00:49:58,871 --> 00:50:01,249 I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, you know? 1093 00:50:01,332 --> 00:50:03,126 And so it scared the hell out of me. 1094 00:50:03,209 --> 00:50:06,045 ♪♪ 82268

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