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I'm sitting next to the director
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were watching
the piece of music.
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Up against screen.
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Were watching it together
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he doesn't have to
say anything to the
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you know i i'm usually
the first one to go.
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Yes i know it's completely
wrong and i know what to do
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and.
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What was.
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Interesting for instance
when i was working
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on Batman begins
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in this of collaboration
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between
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James you know how it
myself and Chris Nolan
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because i i.
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I was watching.
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You know sort of slightly
out of body experience are
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you know
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i was watching how
tougher test on the director to
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actually go and he knows
how hard you worked on it
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and he doesn't he do you
know he doesn't want to go and.
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Be rude about it or whatever but
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if it doesn't work
it doesn't work
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and it's very hard to have to
look somebody in the eye and go.
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I know you're sweating
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bullets over the thing but it's
just not working for me it's tough
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and so
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whenever the three of us
what it was James Chris
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i
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get know
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if there were some
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if there was something that.
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Chris
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didn't
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like about
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and approach all.
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If if there was a better
idea to be had or whatever
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it was a conversation he didn't have to
just looked me straight in the eye because
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as i'm going
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oh my god what am i
going to do James also really
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coming up with you
know hey what about if we
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do this.
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Try this
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so.
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The revisions of just about.
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Getting it to be better
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and.
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Better isn't necessarily the
quality of the music but it's
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understanding
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but we are trying
to stay in the scene
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and.
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Just getting better
at executing it.
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First provision really happens as i
write this musical diary which is just my
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way of figuring myself into the story
into the material into the director sprayed
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into the style that began to
be presenting this thinking
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and it's
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really the me learning the movie
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so there is a revision
process that job on
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all the time even though
i don't go backwards
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as i move forwards
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i'm
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you know
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revising my aim i mean i'm
getting more precise about
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what it is
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you know what the thing itself
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what i'm trying to say
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and music is indefensible in
a funny way i mean one of the
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one of the.
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Problems with music as
is indefensible you cannot
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argue about music
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you either like it
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or you doubt and either
moved your of a doesn't
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but
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i do.
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So sometimes you know
if it literally becomes.
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Doesn't do anything for me
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great okay
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check it out started get
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and
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but you easily by the time i
play something to a director
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and.
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I know why those
notes of they're just.
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As he knows by that
seen us there all by that
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chartists they're all
by the camera is just
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as at a
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certain angle
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and by this is a nip night seen as opposed
to some breakfast see any of that the
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light would have been better at
five o'clock in the morning etc but
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do we.
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We sort of
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intellectually can
defend the thing
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the only thing we come to us i
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i i will never be able
to talk you into liking.
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A certain piece of music
and i will not ever attempted
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or because i just.
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What's the point.
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What's the point you know
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and
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and then
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it's the things we discover together
you know oh hang on a second if if
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we moved this
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if we moved the whole q
down twenty feet i mean
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that was the type Malik
think we would go and.
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That
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Johnny to the line
piece which as.
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Seven minutes long something
like that it's pretty it's it's
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lengthy we spent all day
moving it by one frame or later
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watching it.
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Moving it to frames are you
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watching it
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you know i mean.
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We knew the piece was good
and we knew the film Oscar it's just.
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It's all a bit like you
know you're sitting there
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and an apple tree in the middle of summer
yet just holding your hand out and just.
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Apple just drops
off the tree but
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yeah i mean that's how you want
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the music and the seemed to work
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and it's not always that easy
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but the so
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the revisions are
happening concept.
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I
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caravan what movie it was on but
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i was secretly quite proud of a
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little
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shoe not written
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and
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i
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came outside my studio and.
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Harry Gregson Williams
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was walking down
the hallway and.
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Hey Harry can i just
play you something.
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Thinking.
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This
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get off showing off
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right.
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The choice.
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Were always goes wrong
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sub play Harry this thing i'm
getting what do you think he just and.
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Handsome
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as it costs me
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that is so not worth it
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worthy of you
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know and and you go okay
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revision
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you know
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might want to go and
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and and listened to
somebody who has.
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My best interests.
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Seriously
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it's it's.
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Not.
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Your mate we're having
a bit of a chat here
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i you can ask me
anything you want and i will
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tell you anything i
will talk about anything
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but when it comes to
playing a piece of music.
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I become very very
fragile because it's sort of.
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You know i keep describing it as its own
autonomous language and all that stuff well
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that there's the
downside for that i feel
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you can absolutely and
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completely.
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Figure out who i am
but i play your this piece
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of music is the most
personal and private.
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Thing i can do
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so.
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Before i unleashed on
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the director and i never look at them when
i played to them for the first time just
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in case there's like a shut off to
stay in running across the face.
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I prayed to to my music editor.
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Because
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you know a buck for the.
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Pop out of me for
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count i dunno
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i remember
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we are very very old the
two of us together a prob the
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yeah we have more than a century
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and.
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Alex Gibson
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and
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with some
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like these old people that
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i
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you know i trust
with more than my life
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cause that's what feels like
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because when you're
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when you play
that piece of music.
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Like account bullshit.
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You know that
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this exact
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moment of truth
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and.
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I don't want to i don't want to hear any
great praise etc and they they know exactly
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how to reaction because
i just asked him you know
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and it's very simple
it's very binary i go
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as it fit cause it not.
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If it's not said
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we can plant.
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Was the
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the great director if
i get to work with a.
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Then they don't even go oh yeah that'll
just as good or this is bad or the they
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instantly go into
okay well this is
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great and you know this can
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it triggers a whole set of conversation
and ideas and where we can go and take it
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because of course i lie to them
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i pretend
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you know it just came to
me suddenly and it took me
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ten mess to do when i was
really sweating for six weeks
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you know and i'm
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going through
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you know panic attacks
and everything else.
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Do.
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So so they know that
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you know the they they know.
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They know i'm fragile
and they'll respect about.
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Yeah i remember crystal
on what i'm saying to me with
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a piece that i i didn't
really believe and either
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going
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well maybe that should be
found out that movie okay
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yeah i do exactly what you mean
let's been at it as a as a very gentle
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gentle way of
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telling
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telling me it wasn't.
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You know and
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and.
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I mean that's the that's
part of it well you know about
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the fragile when we
do this stuff and so.
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I remember when one of the.
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First directors i have a
record with you that when
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i was starting small
independent films in england
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it's just really rude
to me all the time.
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If i had even written anything so i
hadn't i hadn't made a mistake yet
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i
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i finally settled
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you know why you're being so
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grumpy all the time
with me he can well
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i just want you to know
where you're at that when i
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hear that piece of
music and i say it's great i
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really mean that and i
really tell you the truth
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and.
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Honesty that's what
you want me know if
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I've had a situation where
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a director would tell me.
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All it's just marvelous
starting it's just the best
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thing I've ever heard it's
just so great it's saved my
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lighted
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i am not making this up
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you saved my movie
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except
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and then
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he started digging into it and
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it
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carried on digging into it until we
basically got to the truth which must
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he prefer a temp
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temp was written by me so it was
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like.
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He wasn't even saying
somebody else what's better he was
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being
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in a peculiar way more insulting
by saying i used to be good
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but somehow you
know your job is to
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just figure out figure out what
the ideas and you you know
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your phone your directing
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to hey look i have
an idea of what if we
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approach to follow a
completely different angle
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or something like that
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up
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it's your job to
figure out how to fix it
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you know
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you broke it effects such.
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