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I'm sitting next to the director

were watching the piece of music.

Up against screen.

Were watching it together

he doesn't have to say anything to the

you know i i'm usually the first one to go.

Yes i know it's completely wrong and i know what to do

and.

What was.

Interesting for instance when i was working

on Batman begins

in this of collaboration

between

James you know how it myself and Chris Nolan

because i i.

I was watching.

You know sort of slightly out of body experience are

you know

i was watching how tougher test on the director to

actually go and he knows how hard you worked on it

and he doesn't he do you know he doesn't want to go and.

Be rude about it or whatever but

if it doesn't work it doesn't work

and it's very hard to have to look somebody in the eye and go.

I know you're sweating

bullets over the thing but it's just not working for me it's tough

and so

whenever the three of us what it was James Chris

i

get know

if there were some

if there was something that.

Chris

didn't

like about

and approach all.

If if there was a better idea to be had or whatever

it was a conversation he didn't have to just looked me straight in the eye because

as i'm going

oh my god what am i going to do James also really

coming up with you know hey what about if we

do this.

Try this

so.

The revisions of just about.

Getting it to be better

and.

Better isn't necessarily the quality of the music but it's

understanding

but we are trying to stay in the scene

and.

Just getting better at executing it.

First provision really happens as i write this musical diary which is just my

way of figuring myself into the story into the material into the director sprayed

into the style that began to be presenting this thinking

and it's

really the me learning the movie

so there is a revision process that job on

all the time even though i don't go backwards

as i move forwards

i'm

you know

revising my aim i mean i'm getting more precise about

what it is

you know what the thing itself

what i'm trying to say

and music is indefensible in a funny way i mean one of the

one of the.

Problems with music as is indefensible you cannot

argue about music

you either like it

or you doubt and either moved your of a doesn't

but

i do.

So sometimes you know if it literally becomes.

Doesn't do anything for me

great okay

check it out started get

and

but you easily by the time i play something to a director

and.

I know why those notes of they're just.

As he knows by that seen us there all by that

chartists they're all by the camera is just

as at a

certain angle

and by this is a nip night seen as opposed to some breakfast see any of that the

light would have been better at five o'clock in the morning etc but

do we.

We sort of

intellectually can defend the thing

the only thing we come to us i

i i will never be able to talk you into liking.

A certain piece of music and i will not ever attempted

or because i just.

What's the point.

What's the point you know

and

and then

it's the things we discover together you know oh hang on a second if if

we moved this

if we moved the whole q down twenty feet i mean

that was the type Malik think we would go and.

That

Johnny to the line piece which as.

Seven minutes long something like that it's pretty it's it's

lengthy we spent all day moving it by one frame or later

watching it.

Moving it to frames are you

watching it

you know i mean.

We knew the piece was good and we knew the film Oscar it's just.

It's all a bit like you know you're sitting there

and an apple tree in the middle of summer yet just holding your hand out and just.

Apple just drops off the tree but

yeah i mean that's how you want

the music and the seemed to work

and it's not always that easy

but the so

the revisions are happening concept.

I

caravan what movie it was on but

i was secretly quite proud of a

little

shoe not written

and

i

came outside my studio and.

Harry Gregson Williams

was walking down the hallway and.

Hey Harry can i just play you something.

Thinking.

This

get off showing off

right.

The choice.

Were always goes wrong

sub play Harry this thing i'm getting what do you think he just and.

Handsome

as it costs me

that is so not worth it

worthy of you

know and and you go okay

revision

you know

might want to go and

and and listened to somebody who has.

My best interests.

Seriously

it's it's.

Not.

Your mate we're having a bit of a chat here

i you can ask me anything you want and i will

tell you anything i will talk about anything

but when it comes to playing a piece of music.

I become very very fragile because it's sort of.

You know i keep describing it as its own autonomous language and all that stuff well

that there's the downside for that i feel

you can absolutely and

completely.

Figure out who i am but i play your this piece

of music is the most personal and private.

Thing i can do

so.

Before i unleashed on

the director and i never look at them when i played to them for the first time just

in case there's like a shut off to stay in running across the face.

I prayed to to my music editor.

Because

you know a buck for the.

Pop out of me for

count i dunno

i remember

we are very very old the two of us together a prob the

yeah we have more than a century

and.

Alex Gibson

and

with some

like these old people that

i

you know i trust with more than my life

cause that's what feels like

because when you're

when you play that piece of music.

Like account bullshit.

You know that

this exact

moment of truth

and.

I don't want to i don't want to hear any great praise etc and they they know exactly

how to reaction because i just asked him you know

and it's very simple it's very binary i go

as it fit cause it not.

If it's not said

we can plant.

Was the

the great director if i get to work with a.

Then they don't even go oh yeah that'll just as good or this is bad or the they

instantly go into okay well this is

great and you know this can

it triggers a whole set of conversation and ideas and where we can go and take it

because of course i lie to them

i pretend

you know it just came to me suddenly and it took me

ten mess to do when i was really sweating for six weeks

you know and i'm

going through

you know panic attacks and everything else.

Do.

So so they know that

you know the they they know.

They know i'm fragile and they'll respect about.

Yeah i remember crystal on what i'm saying to me with

a piece that i i didn't really believe and either

going

well maybe that should be found out that movie okay

yeah i do exactly what you mean let's been at it as a as a very gentle

gentle way of

telling

telling me it wasn't.

You know and

and.

I mean that's the that's part of it well you know about

the fragile when we do this stuff and so.

I remember when one of the.

First directors i have a record with you that when

i was starting small independent films in england

it's just really rude to me all the time.

If i had even written anything so i hadn't i hadn't made a mistake yet

i

i finally settled

you know why you're being so

grumpy all the time with me he can well

i just want you to know where you're at that when i

hear that piece of music and i say it's great i

really mean that and i really tell you the truth

and.

Honesty that's what you want me know if

I've had a situation where

a director would tell me.

All it's just marvelous starting it's just the best

thing I've ever heard it's just so great it's saved my

lighted

i am not making this up

you saved my movie

except

and then

he started digging into it and

it

carried on digging into it until we basically got to the truth which must

he prefer a temp

temp was written by me so it was

like.

He wasn't even saying somebody else what's better he was

being

in a peculiar way more insulting by saying i used to be good

but somehow you know your job is to

just figure out figure out what the ideas and you you know

your phone your directing

to hey look i have an idea of what if we

approach to follow a completely different angle

or something like that

up

it's your job to figure out how to fix it

you know

you broke it effects such.