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Body can learn how to use

a computer and the how to make

sounds and.

Anybody can learn how to
orchestrate you can go to music

school you can run our
to play these are all things.

That are being taught constantly

but

i think one of the great
things that the missing as.

How do you have to conversation

you know

how not to be afraid you're

at it actually take ks.

Takes a bit of getting used to

like you and me right now
having the simple conversation

while there's a huge
crew floating around be

behind us

and.

We're pretending
they're not here

but

that's not what we're doing but we're
actually doing the opposite were doing

everybody's here to support
us making doing something great

and thus the same

with the was

composing so when you
stand in front of the orchestra.

Know that they're are there

to support you and
make make it the best

you know as opposed to.

Being worried about

all that but

it takes up at a time

you know and and and

you have to sort of earn
their respect to smell.

So i mean i i remember
the first few times.

Having the orchestra and then it was
literally like lion taming you know you'd like

you walk off when
you walk out there

and

and they're just
looking at you're going

so what do you know you know and

and and the only way
you can prove it is this by

writing a decent tune
are having a decent idea.

You know and go.

That these to
percussionist and love.

Frank rijkaard three.

And Gary could tell

their played pretty much on every movie
that ever existed i think from you know

before star was on

i played on everything

and

secretly my ambition every
time i recall the score there

as to just

find one thing.

That they haven't done but fall

and usually it's like you know

if you were to hit the
temps with brushes

and at first you get.

Doesn't never work

and then if you're lucky they go
out there and they took Nick oh wow

that sounds really good
we've never done this before

so

you know

you.

Every time just push it forward a
bit and if you put shit forward a bit.

They love you thought

you know that because the the

the musicians are your.

Are your biggest allies i mean
they're the ones ultimately.

You know

this is just me

playing around on a computer.

Ultimately you know

the real musicians

give it

something ing

that no machine can do.

When you get to the orchestra

sessional.

And this is partly why why do these stamos
by to the sweets why we mock the whole

movie up why we have
showed it to an audience

so but by the time we
go to the August session

we are very very solid ground

because but

when i first got to Hollywood
people but just writing on paper

and

and.

The first time the director really
would hear the thing but the either

somebody have
played it to him on piano

and then

which is not quite the same as when you
have one hundred and twenty piece orchestra

blasting away at you

some people can do some
people can do it brilliantly

obviously John Williams
control brilliantly because he is

an amazing pianist

and

the relationship yes with

Steven Spielberg.

Allows that you
know what John can

play and gas and this is where
the French homes come in etc and

Stephen has it because
he's incredibly musical.

But

was most direct us this

rock special but by.

They hear.

At least the weights and the
density of the school you know

all this is where the
strengths i have platoon

and this is what goes
to the French horns

and.

So then when you
get to the orcas

session at

this is this is the most things

become.

Super expensive

you know it's i i can remember i i want to
watch it out how much a sec and costs so.

What's important that a couple
of things which are very important.

That you can make a decision.

All

and every

of

let me think about this

not only costs a fortune
but it stops the momentum

and i think the aka secession that's
about one thing and one thing only

and as to get a performance
out of the guys because.

I can make all those
notes sounds pretty

convincing and pretty

spiffy in the computer

but but what

the computer lacks as.

The the the soft
cohesive musicality

the.

Feel

you know and

energy and the danger

that

realm efficient
spring tour it you know

virtuoso playing

and.

The you know the the the end

the interpretation of each note.

So

once i get to the orchestra actually
worked very efficiently because.

We aren't going
to do any changes.

We've all signed off
on these notes it's just

so

it's not like in the
old days where

you know after the director hard it
for the first time was the big orchestra

what go

you know something

i don't really like it all i don't like
the spit can we change the spit

and.

Something i took maybe weeks to go
and aka you're right and orchestrate and

be very refined Boston
now going to be changed

and ten minutes

life understand that had
to become a compromise

and i'm just not willing
to make that compromise.

The thing that i found out as.

If you make them into your co-conspirators
if you treat them as colleagues if you

treat them as brothers
and sisters in arms.

They're going to
give you the best do.

If you.

Don't do that

they'll eat you alive.

And if you're not clear about the
emotional intention of the music.

Do.

It'll sound like shit

and.

For instance i mean
on pirates it was

very important face that the
orchestra what sounded a certain way

and about

they

they've

i dunno what they came from but let's say
they just came from playing a John Williams

session or or
something like this

so they must still
in the mode off.

Whatever the movie was
saving private Ryan i dunno

know

but.

That's not the sound
i want i want to.

Drunk and pirates so

your.

Since the musicians on my actors

they have to learn the attitude

and so

we just Mark an attitude for a little bit
on prefer farmers attitude what is this you

know what is the
sound we are looking for

you

do

because.

I mean.

A c is a c

a c

c right

but.

You know

what differentiates it you know

that there's there's a

the so many.

There's so many

as soon as i stopped
playing i stopped talking

not because i can't do
both at the same time

but just because i
automatically feel.

Get up by.

By

playing i can be more articulate

and i just have to i have to
give my players the chance

because i know

they can play anything
and they can cite wheat

they could cite me the whole
school we could do on mom take

but

to learn

what's behind the notes
that's the important thing.

This is actually where it's.

Weirdly

helpful that i never
went to music school.

Because

i'm a little vague with
my Italian and since

August are usually get spoken to

with get of

can we do a Richard

do here and can we

be a bit more

al dente know that's cooking.

That the duty me as

i

i just

i i tried to speak to them

from a story point of view i tried to
tell them about the seen us about.

Are

very often

get out

if if i can after
that i you know

director go out and

just ok

guys let me tell you
about the seen us all about.

You know

rather than say.

Play pianissimo

say play more internal i dunno
find emotional words of suggest

but you're trying to

what you're asking
them to convey

but if you can say to them

what you know

what this piece is about.

Not in technical terms.

Technical term stuff

that you know written
down you know it's like

play a see

you know

fortissimo.

Do.

That just tells you that you're supposed
to play that see loud but it doesn't tell

you why as a person
pray that see loud

and you know.

This sounds

so daft but i'm just i'm
just gonna give you all the

dumb things which helped me.

Sometimes when the
orchestration is really dense

noble you know

because remember

the orchestra that like the violas have only
their part in front of the violence only

have their part
in front of them.

Etc etc etc.

They are they are all just.

You know

this is the armed
as the leg you know

they don't know how
the body fits together.

So sometimes it's really good to

literally

whoever has the tune

just right on top of their part

the tune

so they know okay

we got the tune

been a play out in little bit

everybody else just

just right.

Simple.

You know.

Stop being technical stop being
scientific you know communicate to them

commitment

and in the simplest
possible way.