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WALT DISNEY: You know,
people are always analyzing
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our approach to entertainment.
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Some reporters have called it "the special
secret of Disney Entertainment."
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Well, we like a little
mystery in our films,
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but there's really no secret
about our approach.
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We keep moving forward,
opening up new doors,
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doing new things because we're curious
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and curiosity keeps leading us
down new paths.
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DON HAHN: I've walked onto
this lot a million times,
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but, you know, today is really special,
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because about 50 years ago,
a guy named Dave Smith founded
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what would become the gold standard
for Hollywood studio archives.
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Now, what better way to celebrate
that amazing achievement
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than to visit one of the crown jewels
of the Walt Disney Archives,
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the restored offices
of Walt Disney himself.
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Hi there, my name's Don Hahn,
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and here we are at the corner
of Mickey Avenue and Dopey Drive
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in the center
of the legendary Walt Disney Studios.
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This is where it all happened.
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This is the old animation building,
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the orchestra stage,
the commissary, the theater
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and somewhere in here
is Walt Disney's office,
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and that's where we're headed right now.
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In fact, there was a great old movie
about 80 years ago
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called The Reluctant Dragon,
that starred a guy named Robert Benchley,
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who came here to this very sign
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and wandered for hours
looking for Walt's office.
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We're going to do the same thing today,
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and along the way
we might learn something.
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So let's go.
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Follow me.
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Nice eucalyptus.
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So I'll take you around,
be your tour guide.
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But along the way, I'd like you to stop
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and listen to a few people
who really understand and use
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and appreciate what the archives is
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and why it's so important to the history
and legacy of Walt Disney.
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To start out, here's the director
of the archives and my pal, Becky Cline.
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BECKY CLINE: The Walt Disney Archives
has become a very special place.
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I always jokingly say that it's Mecca
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for Disney fans to come to
to the place where all these
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wonderful treasures are kept and used.
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It's also a very important place
for the company.
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We use the materials here in the archives
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all the time for inspiration
and for knowledge
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about how things were made in the past.
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Here in our book,
The Art of Animation, is an account
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of what was probably the strangest
educational effort ever recorded.
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CLINE: We stand on the backs of giants
and we stand on the shoulders
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of people who have have created
an amazing legacy
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and to see how they did it
and then move forward
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and do the same thing in our own time.
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I think that's really what's special
about the archives.
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The Walt Disney Company
has an incredibly rich legacy
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of great storytelling and of great art
and collecting pieces
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from our rich history
and putting it in a place
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for people to see and feel and touch
and learn about it is incredibly important
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whether you're working
for the Walt Disney Company
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or whether you're someone who's interested
in the Walt Disney Company.
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When I came to the company
and it was to start
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a proposal for the archives
in the fall of 1969,
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all nine of the Nine Old Men
were still here.
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Ub Iwerks was still here.
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Roy O. Disney was still here.
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I picked their brains,
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and I love that I learned
so much from them.
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One of the great things about the archives
is they have these displays everywhere,
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and this one's actually a really old
one from 1963
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from National Geographic magazine,
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and it shows kind of
the process of animation,
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the old school process
of storyboarding and recording voices
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and drawing it
with an old-fashioned pencil
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and painting cels with real paint
and backgrounds
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and shooting with cameras on film,
which is like a clear strip of celluloid
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that has silver on it,
but more on that later.
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And then they cut it together
and everybody goes
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and sees it in the screening room.
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So this is a display just down
the hallway walking around,
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and it's still here for everybody to see.
Thanks, archives.
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I can speak from experience
as you're creating these movies,
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it kind of goes through your head
and is gone.
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And so, to have a place
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that is committed
to keeping any scrap of paper
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that contributes
to how these amazing films
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that are part of our DNA were created,
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that is such a godsend,
especially for us nerds.
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What I love about the archives
is the tangible connection to the past,
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is the tangible connection to these things
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that have taken on such
mythic proportions.
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It's also a great pleasure coming to work
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into the Frank G. Wells Building
and walking through the lobby
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and seeing the exhibit
that the archive puts up.
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One exhibit that I loved
was the 35th anniversary of Epcot
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and being able to be on my way,
to and fro,
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for some big important meeting or another,
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and looking across the lobby and going,
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"Is that the guy that blew on his foot
from World of Motion?
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"Oh, my gosh, he's in
this lobby that I work in."
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Becky?
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Becky!
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-It's me, Don.
-Oh, welcome.
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-So good to see you.
-What you doing?
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I am prepping for a brand new exhibit
and I've got all kinds of cool stuff out.
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I was just going up
to Walt Disney's office,
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and I had to come by and see
if it was okay, get the keys
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-and kind of go up there and say hello.
-Great.
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Well, you're welcome to go up there,
but I've got some really cool stuff
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you might want to see before you go.
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-Yes.
-You got a few minutes?
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-Have a seat. I'll show you.
-Uh-huh.
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I have got with me here
something pretty cool.
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It is the contract that started
the Walt Disney Company.
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-Oh, come on.
-Yeah.
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This is the Alice Comedies contract.
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-No. Is that the real thing?
-The real thing.
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And you can see right there,
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it's signed by Walt Disney
and Margaret Winkler, her producer.
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-Robert Disney?
-Robert Disney, his uncle.
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That's who he lived with.
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And this was signed
at Uncle Robert's house over in Los Feliz.
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-I've driven by. How cool is that?
-Yeah.
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So that's where this contract...
And this was on October 16th, 1923.
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So it's the official start of the Walt
Disney Company with this contract.
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-HAHN: That is unbelievable.
-Isn't that great?
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-I love that.
-I love all the goodies you have here.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, you know,
we don't get a chance
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to share this kinda stuff too much
'cause it's paper...
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-You can't put it out.
-It's fragile.
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Yeah, and so we do it
for very special things.
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But that's fun.
And then speaking of paper...
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These your summer vacation pictures?
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-Yes, in my memories.
-Yes, uh-huh.
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This is a scrapbook that was put together
for a man named Vern Cauger...
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-Oh!
-...who was the guy who gave Walt Disney
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his start in animation
and Ub in Kansas City...
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And all the guys got together out here
at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel,
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-in 1944 and had a dinner for him.
-Wow.
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And so they all signed this book.
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-And I love this because...
-Oh, my gosh, look at that.
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-It's signed by Walt.
-Signed by Walt and with the Walt drawing.
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-Yeah, Mickey Mouse!
-Which you rarely see.
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-It's a really good Mickey Mouse, too!
-It is.
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That's a treasure, and his signature
looks exactly like his signature.
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It does! You can see that
that the signature today
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-is based on his actual signature.
-HAHN: Wow!
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I love the little circles on the "Y"
that's flipped all backwards.
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-There it is, the real thing.
-Isn't that great?
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We also have things
in our collection that are
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more modern and intrinsically valued.
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I mean, this is of great historic value,
these pieces.
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But this one is also
intrinsically very valuable
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because it's solid gold
and it has diamonds and rubies.
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-No.
-It's a World Series ring.
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It's a California Angels
World Series ring.
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It is. We owned the team in 2002,
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when they won the World Series,
and that's the ring.
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-That is the coolest thing I've ever seen.
-It says Disney, right on the side.
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Wow, could I have that?
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-Mmm, I don't think so.
-Okay, thanks. I just had to ask.
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But if you'd like to wear it,
you'd have...
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-Can I?
-You have to put gloves on?
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Totally can.
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-There you go.
-It is beautiful.
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See? You could've been a baseball player
and got one of those.
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I feel like I'm engaged to the Angels.
That is so beautiful.
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Well, your wife is an angel.
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Yes. And she is.
Thank you for covering me.
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-You got it.
-That's beautiful.
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Isn't that pretty?
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And then this is one of my favorite pieces
in the whole archives.
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What's this?
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-This is...
-Oh, my gosh, that is amazing.
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That is the prop storybook
that opens Sleeping Beauty.
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HAHN: Unbelievable.
So this would've made in the '50s.
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Late '50s, yeah. '57, '58,
when they were shooting the film.
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These are faux jewels that have been
embedded into this hammered brass cover.
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Wow, and looks like it's all handmade.
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And it's been in this
condition all that time?
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Well, you know what? Over the years,
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it kind of got banged around
and some of the jewels
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were getting loose
and the spine was cracking,
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so we took it over
to the Huntington Library...
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-HAHN: Oh, yeah.
-...and had it conserved.
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-HAHN: Great place.
-And they did an amazing job.
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They took out all the
beautiful Eyvind Earle art
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that was inside and conserved
each page individually and separately
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boxed that up
so that we can keep it very safe.
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And then they added blank paper
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and put a new spine on it
so that we could display it.
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So now we can share it publicly.
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And I think...
I don't often think of that,
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you not only store things,
but you do a lot of conservation.
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We do, we do.
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Not only on books like this,
but on papers and on, you know,
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just things that need
a little help along the way.
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CLINE: Art, blueprints, things like that.
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We have a huge collection of blueprints.
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They're all folded up.
They were stored that way originally,
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and now they're so old
that just opening him up will crack them.
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So now we're taking them
to conservation labs and things
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and having them opened up and have
the creases taken out, relaxed,
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yes, so we can share them.
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Well, thank you so much
for sharing all these goodies.
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-You're welcome.
-I'll come by often.
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Yeah. Come by again.
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I'm sure I'll have plenty
of other treasures.
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Thanks. We're going to run off to Walt's
office, and I will see you later on, then.
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Well, yeah. You know,
before you go to up to Walt's office,
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you know, it's going to be there.
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-You'll get to see it.
-Okay, good.
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But you should go over
to the photo library first
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because Mike Buckhoff is also working
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on some really cool stuff
that he'll have out.
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And you might want to see it first.
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-So just knock and sneak in?
-Yeah.
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-Yeah. Just go on in.
-Okay. I will.
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I was starting the film I did
on my grandfather, Ub Iwerks,
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and I was able to access the archives,
and they came in
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and brought this folder of materials
on my grandfather.
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And I had never seen
most of the material that was in there,
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and I just spent, you know,
days in here just looking through
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and getting to know him because he was...
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I was one when he passed away.
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And so, sitting in here
and reading the interviews
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that Dave Smith,
the founder of this archive,
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did with my grandfather
was brand-new to me,
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like, you know, I had never heard
some of his stories like that.
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-Hey, Mike, how you doing?
-Hey, Don.
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Good to see you. Hey,
you're wearing gloves. This is creepy.
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-Yes.
-Why do you wear gloves?
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Do you do it all day long?
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We have to keep good care of our assets.
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So we gotta wear gloves
when you're handling these.
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Okay, good. I'm just going to take
your word for it on that.
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I was over in the reading room,
and Becky said I should come over
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and see you and see all the great stuff
you're doing at the photo library,
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which is where we're at right now,
in an undisclosed location
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deep in the bowels of Disney.
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That's right. We cover the entire history
of the company, from film and television
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to theme parks to personnel
to, of course, Walt Disney himself.
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We store over four million images
here at Glendale.
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And with the addition of the Fox photo
archives, that number has quadrupled.
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You have goodies here.
It's not just photos,
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You have artifacts and things, which
we're conveniently standing in front of.
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-Yeah, that's right.
-What is this?
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So, what we have here is Walt's projector.
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You can even see
the little asset tag there.
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-HAHN: Wow!
-Walt Disney Company.
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-HAHN: Walt Disney Productions. Yeah.
-Yeah.
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And we also have
some film canisters of Walt's.
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-We just turned these up a few years ago.
-HAHN: Wow, man.
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MIKE BUCKHOFF: And actually had original
film in them from some of Walt's trips.
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-HAHN: Yeah.
-And his daily life.
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HAHN: That's amazing. So that's like
Walt would have handled these
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-and had these in his hand.
-Oh, absolutely.
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-BUCKHOFF: Yeah.
-Amazing.
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BUCKHOFF: We also have Walt's 16MM
Bell and Howell camera.
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HAHN: Oh, my God. I've seen that in
pictures. And that's the actual camera.
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BUCKHOFF: This is the actual camera.
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He took that on quite a few trips,
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including his South America goodwill trip.
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HAHN: I was going to ask you because you
see him all the time, laying on the beach.
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-And he's taking pictures.
-BUCKHOFF: Yes.
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And, interestingly enough,
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some of the footage from this camera
showed up in the 1943 film Saludos Amigos.
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That's amazing. And you said
you have four million images here.
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-Yes.
-Can we see them? Can we go through them?
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Well, I don't think we have time
for all of that,
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-but I can show you a few.
-Yeah, let's do.
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We mentioned Walt's
1941 South American trip.
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Right. Didn't the government send him
down there as a goodwill thing?
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-Goodwill mission.
-Yes, that's correct.
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Now, upon his return, the Cinematography
Association of Argentina
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put together this special
photo album of Walt's trip.
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And this is the actual photo album.
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-Yes. This is it.
-With drawings.
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BUCKHOFF: Yeah, they did some
custom-themed artwork.
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HAHN: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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BUCKHOFF: There is some additional photos.
Walt with his wife Lillian.
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-HAHN: So cool.
-Yeah, that's really fun.
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-HAHN: This is full of that trip, then.
-Yeah, that's right.
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And all the photos were taken
by their photographers.
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So these are the only copies that we have.
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And I love the little, um, drawings
that go along with him. That's so sweet.
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BUCKHOFF: They obviously took
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a lot of time
to put this together for him.
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I have never seen these before.
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So it had a lasting effect
on them and Walt.
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HAHN: Wow! Love that.
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What else you got?
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Well, moving along,
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there are many unique aspects
to our collection,
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and one in particular are the amount of
behind-the-scenes and production photos,
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you know, for our live-action features.
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HAHN: Wow. And that's what this is.
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BUCKHOFF: Yeah, so one of my favorites
is the original Parent Trap from 1961.
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-HAHN: Hayley Mills.
-Yeah, that's right.
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And Brian Keith and Maureen O'Hara.
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-Can we sing the song?
-Uh, maybe next time.
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Okay. Good.
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BUCKHOFF: So what we have here
is some really fun behind-the-scenes shots
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-of the sodium screen process.
-HAHN: Wow!
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Where Hayley Mills is interacting
with her invisible sister.
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-HAHN: Right.
-To be added later via movie magic.
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HAHN: Oh, God, that's in here,
and there's multiple shots.
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-On some of them, it says "Kill."
-BUCKHOFF: Yeah.
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Yeah. So that means
that was not to be used for publicity.
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And occasionally we will run across one
that says "Killed by Walt,"
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so he personally
did not want that one out.
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That man was, his fingers into everything.
This is so interesting.
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And I look like down here
there's books and books and books,
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like of different titles,
and this one was really cool
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because it's... I'm not making this up.
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Salty, the Hijacked Harbor Seal.
Just not to put too fine a point on it.
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Soon to be on Disney Plus.
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So all this stuff back here is
the same thing. It's like...
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This says The Love Bug and Robin Caruso
and Mary Poppins,
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Gus the field goal kicking mule...
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So if I open any of these books,
they're packed with production photos?
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BUCKHOFF: That's right.
Production photos, behind the scenes.
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Uh, sometimes some artwork.
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HAHN: Unbelievable. You could spend
the rest of your life here,
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-which you may do, actually.
-Yes.
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It's okay. (LAUGHS)
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You must have Walt Disney pictures
in here, which I think I see over here.
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We have many Walt Disney pictures.
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The most photographed guy
of the 20th century.
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Yeah, one in particular
is this iconic shot of Walt
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-and Mickey.
-HAHN: Mmm-hmm.
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BUCKHOFF: But there was some debate
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over many years as to where
the photo was actually taken.
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Right. Because I thought it was taken
at the Hyperion Studio.
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Some thought it was Hyperion,
however none of the details seem to match
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And it didn't seem to match his Woking Way
home in Los Angeles, either.
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I'm sorry.
I thought you said, "Woking Way home."
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-Woking Way home.
-What's that?
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That was the name of the street
which it was on.
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Oh, okay, got it.
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And that house is long gone now or...
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Uh, the house is still around.
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-It's still there?
-It's only a hop, skip and a jump away.
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-So maybe you wanna go check it out.
-Do you have the keys?
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I don't have the keys,
but we have someone there for you.
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-You go check it out.
-Goodbye.
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The first day here was like Christmas.
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I sat at the desk
like I'm waiting for Santa Claus,
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and then they bring out the boxes
and you open the boxes.
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And there are things there... (LAUGHS)
that you've read about,
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that you've looked at, at Disneyland,
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that you've always wondered.
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I mean, forget being a historian.
I'm a geek.
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I am geeking out over this stuff.
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You usually find something amazing
in what it is you're looking for.
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But then, "Hey, what's this over here?
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"Here's a memo about
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"when magnetic film was first used
to record the audio in 1954.
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"What? I wasn't even looking for that."
But it just helps
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put the whole studio in context
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as a place that wasn't cemented in stone.
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It was constantly reinventing itself,
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and those little scraps
just help bring that to life.
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(LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING)
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(LAUGHING)
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Whoa, this is amazing.
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Hey, Don, I'm up here.
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-Hey, Kevin, how you doing?
-Good.
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-Nice to see you.
-It's good to see you.
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I just came over from the photo library,
and I can't believe where we are.
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It's a pretty cool house, right?
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-It's amazing.
-Rare treat to be in Walt's house.
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It is. Well, come on down.
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-I'm glad you're here to show us around.
-Yeah.
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Where are we? Like, we're up in the hills
in a mysterious place in Hollywood.
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-And this is Walt's house.
-That's right.
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-We're at his house on Woking Way.
-HAHN: Unbelievable.
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He lived here
from the early 1930s till 1950.
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HAHN: So he built his house?
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KEVIN KERN: Yep.
The architect was Frank Crowhurst,
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who was also one of the architects
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for the Hyperion lot,
which was just down the hill.
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-HAHN: Oh, seriously?
-Yeah.
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The Walt Disney Company has always had
quite the photography collection.
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They were documenting
a lot of different things.
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So we can go deep into the photo archives
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or for a photo library
where you just were.
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-Yeah.
-We can take them. Good example.
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-HAHN: No!
-Match up the exact spot.
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HAHN: Look at that. Like the detail
on the ceiling is up there, too.
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Yeah. And the remarkable thing is,
we have more examples
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-we can do that with in this house.
-Really?
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-Wanna go check it out?
-Oh, let's go look. Come on.
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So one of my favorite photos is this one.
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-Oh, my gosh. Yeah, absolutely.
-Right.
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-This iconic shot of Walt.
-Whoa.
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And actually, where you're standing,
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-is just about that spot.
-No, that was shot here?
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-That was shot right here.
-I thought that was shot at the studio.
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Well, thanks to our photo library folks,
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Mike Buckhoff and some lovely
Disney historians, like Hans Perk...
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-Yes.
-We were able to pinpoint the exact spot.
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How? That's, like, amazing detective work.
How do you figure that out?
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-One really telling clue helped.
-Yeah.
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A telephone.
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-The room we just came out of...
-HAHN: Right. The screening room.
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...there's this photo that we see,
and we can just make out a phone
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-in this part of the image.
-HAHN: Oh!
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And thankfully, we have...
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I'll give this to you for the tour.
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-So you can look around.
-Oh, my God.
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It's the layout of the house.
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-KERN: We can see...
-It has telephone outlets on it.
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KERN: Right there, there's a phone.
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HAHN: Oh, and the jack is still there?
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Yeah. And we know that behind us,
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this part of the hallway here
was remodeled a couple times.
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-Yeah.
-Remodeled at least once.
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So it doesn't totally match.
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So if that photo was taken here,
that means there'll be a window there,
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which there is, and there'd be
a light switch or something there.
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-Which is right around that area.
-Which it is.
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-Yeah.
-Okay, so Walt Disney stood right here...
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-Right there...
-Took one of the most famous
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-photographs of his career.
-If not the most famous photo.
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HAHN: With his hand on his hip.
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-Real-life research.
-Real-life research.
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KERN: So that leads us in here,
which is Walt's living room.
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HAHN: Oh, man, this is amazing.
431
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The details in here are just remarkable.
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Well, like there's this kind of opera box
thing up here with,
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I guess was, musicians would play there
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and you think, like, Tchaikovsky
probably sat here.
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KERN: We can take
some other hints, though,
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from our photo library collection.
We pulled out some more photos.
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One of my favorites
is that killer photo of Walt
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standing right in front of this window
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with a bunch
of Mickey dolls in front of him.
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-If you look on that table...
-What do we got?
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-HAHN: Oh, my gosh.
-In the photo, you also see some examples
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of those Charlotte Clark Mickey dolls.
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HAHN: They're all over the place.
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So we went in the archives
and pulled out a sample
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of Charlotte Clark's from our collection.
446
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-And there's one now.
-Right here.
447
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Yeah, the one you just pointed
out in the middle here,
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-it's from the 1930s.
-HAHN: And Charlotte Clark was who?
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Charlotte Clark wanted
to make Mickey Dolls and sell them,
450
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but she knew that she needed
Walt and Roy's permission to do so.
451
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So Walt and Roy loved the idea.
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She made this.
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KERN: They commissioned her
to make a doll. Yeah, a Mickey doll.
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And it was so popular
she couldn't keep up with demand.
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-HAHN: Really?
-So,
456
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the Disneys licensed
the patterns to McCall's.
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Anybody could make their own Mickey doll.
458
00:19:17,197 --> 00:19:19,491
-HAHN: Is this a McCall's pattern?
-We think so.
459
00:19:19,575 --> 00:19:20,951
Yeah, we think this is a McCall's Mickey.
460
00:19:21,034 --> 00:19:23,120
Which in some ways might make it
a little bit more rare.
461
00:19:23,203 --> 00:19:25,539
Yeah, 'cause somebody made this by hand.
And these are reproductions?
462
00:19:25,622 --> 00:19:26,790
Yeah, later reproductions,
463
00:19:26,874 --> 00:19:29,626
which helps serve the point of
when people are looking for inspiration
464
00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:32,087
within the Walt Disney Company
they can come to us,
465
00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:34,840
look at an original to help inspire
a new product they wanna make.
466
00:19:34,923 --> 00:19:36,175
That's just one example.
467
00:19:36,258 --> 00:19:38,135
-And this is your hat.
-Yeah, I actually brought this.
468
00:19:38,218 --> 00:19:39,970
No, you know, we're very lucky.
469
00:19:40,053 --> 00:19:42,931
We have some of Walt's personal effects,
like an example, one of his hats
470
00:19:43,348 --> 00:19:45,934
and his polo mallet and polo trophies
471
00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:47,352
from the time that he lived in this house.
472
00:19:47,436 --> 00:19:48,645
HAHN: Unbelievable.
473
00:19:48,729 --> 00:19:49,897
KERN: And who knows, Don, It could be
474
00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:52,649
the last time these items were here
was when Walt lived here.
475
00:19:52,774 --> 00:19:54,234
That's spooky and wonderful
at the same time.
476
00:19:54,318 --> 00:19:55,360
It is. It is.
477
00:19:55,444 --> 00:19:57,196
So that's actually
Walt Disney's polo mallet?
478
00:19:57,321 --> 00:19:59,573
-KERN: Actually Walt's polo mallet.
-Unbelievable.
479
00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:03,535
All this stuff you have is great,
and these trophies are just priceless.
480
00:20:03,619 --> 00:20:05,662
We do have some other really
cool photos that we pulled,
481
00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:07,956
but in order to match those up,
we're gonna have to go outside.
482
00:20:08,123 --> 00:20:09,416
-By the swimming pool?
-By the swimming pool.
483
00:20:09,499 --> 00:20:11,543
-I brought my trunks. Let's go.
-Follow me.
484
00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:17,174
KERN: All right, if we go out here.
HAHN: Yeah.
485
00:20:17,633 --> 00:20:19,551
There's another shot we can line up.
486
00:20:19,801 --> 00:20:22,095
Oh, wow. There's a view here.
487
00:20:22,179 --> 00:20:24,306
You can see the ocean.
You can see downtown.
488
00:20:24,473 --> 00:20:26,683
And look, look, look what's still here.
I can't believe it.
489
00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:29,102
I know it's the playhouse
that Walt built for his daughters.
490
00:20:29,269 --> 00:20:30,562
-HAHN: Unbelievable.
-Yeah.
491
00:20:30,687 --> 00:20:33,607
HAHN: So that's the one that Walt had his
carpenters build for Diane and Sharon?
492
00:20:33,690 --> 00:20:35,567
KERN: Yep. Yeah.
That's the one that the kids played in.
493
00:20:35,651 --> 00:20:37,152
And there's pictures of Walt
playing in it too.
494
00:20:37,277 --> 00:20:39,738
-HAHN: Unbelievable.
-Speaks to how the house was used
495
00:20:39,821 --> 00:20:41,782
-as a family home.
-HAHN: And he loved those kids.
496
00:20:41,865 --> 00:20:43,075
-He did. Yeah.
-And they loved him.
497
00:20:43,158 --> 00:20:45,369
It's a lovely view
of Walt Disney, the person.
498
00:20:45,452 --> 00:20:46,703
Yes. Yeah, exactly.
499
00:20:46,828 --> 00:20:48,914
Which which we love
to talk about whatever we can.
500
00:20:48,997 --> 00:20:50,415
Yeah. So what about that photo?
501
00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:52,125
This is my favorite photo, I think.
502
00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:54,378
-For this whole, this whole property.
-Yep.
503
00:20:54,503 --> 00:20:55,921
-That puts Walt...
-Oh, my God.
504
00:20:56,046 --> 00:20:58,507
-...right here in this backyard.
-Yeah. Yeah.
505
00:20:58,632 --> 00:21:00,342
KERN: I think if we stand...
506
00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:02,219
-The tree here.
-Yeah. Right about there.
507
00:21:03,011 --> 00:21:05,264
HAHN: Wow, that is so amazing.
508
00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:08,517
KERN: We take it as a huge honor
to be able to tell this story.
509
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,435
And thankfully, kind of at our disposal,
510
00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:14,356
we've got warehouses
full of historical Disney everything.
511
00:21:14,564 --> 00:21:16,316
Warehouses full of historic everything?
512
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,151
-That's right. Everything from props...
-Oh, do tell.
513
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,112
...costumes, attraction vehicles,
514
00:21:20,195 --> 00:21:21,738
-artwork.
-Attraction vehicles?
515
00:21:21,822 --> 00:21:22,990
Yes, attraction vehicles.
516
00:21:23,073 --> 00:21:25,033
Did you happen to have, like, a Heimlich?
517
00:21:25,117 --> 00:21:26,118
Yeah, we do.
518
00:21:26,493 --> 00:21:27,494
I'll be right back.
519
00:21:28,495 --> 00:21:30,747
I don't know what I would do without
the folks that work in this department.
520
00:21:30,831 --> 00:21:32,749
They're just amazing people
521
00:21:33,166 --> 00:21:34,710
and so great at what they do.
522
00:21:34,793 --> 00:21:36,795
And the thing that I'm proudest about is
523
00:21:37,004 --> 00:21:39,923
it's constant. Every time I open my email,
524
00:21:40,007 --> 00:21:41,967
just about every time
I get an email from somebody
525
00:21:42,050 --> 00:21:44,886
thanking me for the great work
that somebody on my team has done
526
00:21:45,178 --> 00:21:47,347
and that makes me so proud and so happy.
527
00:21:47,472 --> 00:21:49,766
It's so much part of their own interests.
528
00:21:49,850 --> 00:21:53,562
And the amount of material
they have is so voluminous
529
00:21:53,687 --> 00:21:55,605
that if you didn't have those people
530
00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:58,942
who really cared as much
as the archive folks do,
531
00:21:59,401 --> 00:22:00,986
I don't know that we'd ever find it.
532
00:22:02,362 --> 00:22:03,613
I am so happy.
533
00:22:05,282 --> 00:22:08,493
Hey, Don, I'm not sure
what's going on here,
534
00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:11,621
but we don't normally let people
sit in the Archives' assets...
535
00:22:11,705 --> 00:22:14,583
I am so sorry.
I just was fulfilling a childhood dream.
536
00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:16,501
This is a great place! Where are we?
537
00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:19,838
Yeah, it is. It's really cool.
This is one of the archives' warehouses.
538
00:22:19,921 --> 00:22:20,922
Wow!
539
00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:24,843
Everything we store here
comes from the parks, films, TV shows,
540
00:22:24,926 --> 00:22:27,679
and it's all kind of the larger,
oversized dimensionals.
541
00:22:27,763 --> 00:22:29,306
-Like myself.
-Why... Pfftt!
542
00:22:29,389 --> 00:22:30,849
-Yeah, exactly!
-And Heimlich.
543
00:22:30,932 --> 00:22:33,935
And Heimlich, yeah, exactly.
Can we walk around a little bit?
544
00:22:34,019 --> 00:22:36,313
Sure. Let me have you
exit the vehicle first.
545
00:22:36,396 --> 00:22:38,565
Oh, okay.
I'll undo my seatbelt, hold on...
546
00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:42,152
-I know what these are from.
-You recognize these, eh?
547
00:22:42,235 --> 00:22:43,987
-I do.
-Yeah, they're pretty iconic.
548
00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:46,782
These are the carousel horses
from Mary Poppins.
549
00:22:46,907 --> 00:22:49,034
-Yeah.
-RICK LORENTZ: We've got Mary's horse here
550
00:22:49,117 --> 00:22:50,869
and then over here we have Bert's.
551
00:22:50,952 --> 00:22:53,330
Bert's horse was painted
by Peter Ellenshaw.
552
00:22:53,413 --> 00:22:55,457
-HAHN: Oh, come on.
-Yup. He did that one.
553
00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:58,210
-Tony Walton did Mary's and Jane's.
-HAHN: Come on!
554
00:22:58,293 --> 00:23:00,128
They're like celebrity horse painters.
555
00:23:00,212 --> 00:23:02,381
They're art pieces too.
Not just carousel horses.
556
00:23:02,506 --> 00:23:03,507
HAHN: So cool!
557
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:06,885
And they look different too.
This looks so pristine and beautiful.
558
00:23:06,968 --> 00:23:09,763
This is one of those examples
we were talking about restoration,
559
00:23:09,846 --> 00:23:12,391
where Mary's horse has been
repainted and restored.
560
00:23:12,474 --> 00:23:14,768
But we've left Bert's
in the original condition.
561
00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:17,771
Oh, I like him. He looks like
he's a priceless antique.
562
00:23:17,854 --> 00:23:19,314
He is. He is. Yeah.
563
00:23:19,439 --> 00:23:21,942
That's amazing. You can do
the restorations or not,
564
00:23:22,025 --> 00:23:24,736
depending on kind of archivally,
what's the best for the...
565
00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:26,530
Exactly. And for exhibiting them,
566
00:23:26,613 --> 00:23:29,241
and like I said, I think it's
a good example of before and after.
567
00:23:29,324 --> 00:23:30,492
What else you got here?
568
00:23:30,575 --> 00:23:33,161
We have something in another room
I'd like to show you.
569
00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:35,455
I think you'll be interested
in seeing these.
570
00:23:35,539 --> 00:23:36,540
I love other rooms.
571
00:23:36,623 --> 00:23:38,041
-Okay, let's go.
-Here we go.
572
00:23:39,626 --> 00:23:42,337
(LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING)
573
00:23:47,384 --> 00:23:50,303
Those horses were amazing,
but you've got to be kidding me.
574
00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:53,432
-Is this actually what I think it is?
-Yeah, probably.
575
00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:55,767
This is one of the most
iconic pieces we have.
576
00:23:55,851 --> 00:23:57,519
The carpet bag from Mary Poppins.
577
00:23:57,602 --> 00:24:01,481
I'm in awe. This prop has been seen
by millions of people around the world.
578
00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:02,816
LORENTZ: Around the world.
579
00:24:02,899 --> 00:24:05,861
HAHN: And this is probably like
on a list of top 10 Disney props.
580
00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:06,945
Yeah.
581
00:24:07,028 --> 00:24:08,822
It's terrific and it's held up well.
582
00:24:08,905 --> 00:24:11,867
It's in good shape.
Just some wear and tear on the leather.
583
00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:13,660
Is this something that was
always in the archives,
584
00:24:13,743 --> 00:24:16,204
and you keep these things,
or do you acquire them?
585
00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:18,540
Actually, we acquired this
about a dozen years, 12 years ago.
586
00:24:18,623 --> 00:24:20,834
-Wow!
-It wasn't something we had originally.
587
00:24:20,917 --> 00:24:23,044
It was just something
we were searching for
588
00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:24,463
and came across to where...
589
00:24:24,546 --> 00:24:26,339
It was in the trunk of Dave Smith's car.
590
00:24:26,423 --> 00:24:27,424
(BOTH LAUGHING)
591
00:24:27,507 --> 00:24:30,594
-He was hiding it all those years!
-Someone should've asked him sooner.
592
00:24:30,677 --> 00:24:32,929
This thing here looks like
it's from the same movie.
593
00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:36,308
It is. This is one of the chimney
sweep brooms from the film also.
594
00:24:36,391 --> 00:24:37,392
HAHN: Oh, wow.
595
00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:39,519
We did a little bit of work on this.
596
00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:41,730
We added the handle here.
We didn't have the handle,
597
00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:43,982
so that took a little bit
of creating there.
598
00:24:44,065 --> 00:24:46,318
-Amazing that still exists.
-Yeah.
599
00:24:46,401 --> 00:24:48,570
There's no reason why it should,
'cause it's all natural materials,
600
00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:51,156
and it could easily have degraded
somewhere along the line.
601
00:24:51,239 --> 00:24:53,241
I think this is the one
that Dick Van Dyke had.
602
00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:54,326
Of course it is.
603
00:24:54,409 --> 00:24:55,952
-HAHN: I believe that.
-Yeah.
604
00:24:56,036 --> 00:24:58,121
You'll probably
recognize the next piece...
605
00:24:58,205 --> 00:25:00,916
Oh, I've spent a good couple of years
in London working on this movie.
606
00:25:01,041 --> 00:25:02,459
It's the Dipmobile from Roger Rabbit!
607
00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:04,628
This is the model for the Dipmobile,
608
00:25:04,711 --> 00:25:07,547
-which we have, the larger.
-You have the full-size one?
609
00:25:07,631 --> 00:25:09,299
-We do.
-Can we take a spin later?
610
00:25:09,424 --> 00:25:10,967
-Sure. I'll dip you in...
-Great.
611
00:25:11,051 --> 00:25:14,012
It's funny, 'cause we shot this
in a warehouse in London,
612
00:25:14,095 --> 00:25:15,931
'cause we shot
most of the movie in London.
613
00:25:16,014 --> 00:25:18,308
And ILM used a lot of models for reference
614
00:25:18,391 --> 00:25:20,101
and to shoot some of the
miniature things for it,
615
00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:21,520
so this must've been from that era.
616
00:25:21,603 --> 00:25:22,938
One of my favorite movies.
617
00:25:23,021 --> 00:25:25,941
So, a little bit of Don history.
That's so cool.
618
00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:27,609
I have never seen that before.
619
00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:29,277
LORENTZ: And one more interesting piece.
620
00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:31,655
-Oh, man. Wow!
-"It's a small world."
621
00:25:31,738 --> 00:25:34,574
It's a piece that you'd really appreciate
when you see it up close
622
00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:36,034
and you can see the detail.
623
00:25:36,117 --> 00:25:39,287
The level of the detail, the hand
embroidery and all that stuff,
624
00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,957
which I think was Alice Davis,
the Disney Legend.
625
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,168
She worked with Mary Blair
on all this stuff for the World's Fair.
626
00:25:45,252 --> 00:25:46,670
-Exactly.
-And you still have it.
627
00:25:46,753 --> 00:25:48,588
-And we still have it.
-Unbelievable.
628
00:25:48,672 --> 00:25:50,257
-Yeah.
-Wow, that is a treasure.
629
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:51,800
(INTENSE MUSIC PLAYING)
630
00:25:52,842 --> 00:25:55,512
HAHN: So, you have a cold room.
Do you have a hot room?
631
00:25:55,595 --> 00:25:56,596
(LORENTZ LAUGHING)
632
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,598
Look! Like that video game from Tron.
633
00:25:58,682 --> 00:26:01,184
-Yes. This is actually, uh, Tron Legacy.
-Amazing.
634
00:26:01,268 --> 00:26:03,853
-Right next to...
-Maximilian from, uh...
635
00:26:03,937 --> 00:26:05,981
-Maximilian.
-From, um, The Black Hole.
636
00:26:06,064 --> 00:26:08,525
I actually worked on that movie.
I'm very elderly.
637
00:26:08,608 --> 00:26:11,653
Here's another one. Some characters
you might be familiar with.
638
00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:12,779
Worked on this too.
639
00:26:12,862 --> 00:26:14,239
It's Cogsworth and Lumiere,
640
00:26:14,322 --> 00:26:16,616
and Mrs. Potts! The live-action
Beauty and the Beast movie.
641
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,034
-Exactly.
-Wow!
642
00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:19,286
Hi, guys, you're looking good.
643
00:26:19,369 --> 00:26:21,705
Okay, this has all been
really good to look at.
644
00:26:21,788 --> 00:26:23,623
But there's one more thing
you should see that we...
645
00:26:23,707 --> 00:26:25,041
-Which is?
-Costumes!
646
00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:26,126
Oh, yes.
647
00:26:26,209 --> 00:26:28,795
Robert's over now with some
mannequins and costumes.
648
00:26:28,878 --> 00:26:31,464
-Let's take a look.
-I'll go slip into my ball gown.
649
00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:33,800
HAHN: Robert?
650
00:26:33,883 --> 00:26:35,927
-Hey, Don, how you doing?
-How are you?
651
00:26:36,011 --> 00:26:37,220
BOTH: Good to see you.
652
00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:38,388
Who is your friend here?
653
00:26:38,471 --> 00:26:41,349
ROBERT MAXHIMER: This is Nicole Kidman's
outfit from Moulin Rouge!
654
00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:44,060
-No, you've got to be kidding.
-MAXHIMER: Yeah. The black diamonds.
655
00:26:44,144 --> 00:26:47,063
HAHN: Oh, my God. How did you
end up with it? What's it doing here?
656
00:26:47,147 --> 00:26:48,898
I don't know if you heard, but Fox
657
00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:51,443
was recently acquired by
the Walt Disney Company.
658
00:26:51,526 --> 00:26:54,070
One of the benefits
was that the Walt Disney Archives
659
00:26:54,154 --> 00:26:56,364
was able to bring in about 4,000 costumes.
660
00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:57,532
-No!
-Yeah.
661
00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:01,536
Part of my role in the archives
is to put together exhibitions.
662
00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:05,081
So, bringing these to the public.
And, uh, right now what I'm doing
663
00:27:05,165 --> 00:27:08,084
is trying to put together
something that shows
664
00:27:08,251 --> 00:27:10,879
strong female leads like Nicole Kidman.
665
00:27:11,004 --> 00:27:14,549
So... Fox has so much Hollywood history.
What else did you bring along?
666
00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:17,344
What else have you unearthed
in this amazing treasure trove?
667
00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:19,971
This one's very exciting.
This is Shirley MacLaine's
668
00:27:20,055 --> 00:27:21,056
from Can-Can.
669
00:27:21,139 --> 00:27:22,557
-HAHN: So tiny.
-Yeah.
670
00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:24,059
-1960.
-HAHN: Yeah.
671
00:27:24,309 --> 00:27:27,103
This was the scene that she had
with Frank Sinatra.
672
00:27:27,187 --> 00:27:29,064
-HAHN: Yeah.
-Big musical number.
673
00:27:29,147 --> 00:27:32,942
Yeah, it was great. So, part of Fox
is all these great legacy films
674
00:27:33,026 --> 00:27:35,278
that we have some costumes from.
675
00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:39,074
-What's this one over here?
-This is one of my personal favorites.
676
00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:40,825
This is Winona Ryder,
677
00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:43,578
from Edward Scissorhands,
designed by Colleen Atwood.
678
00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:46,206
-HAHN: Tim Burton movie.
-Tim Burton, absolutely.
679
00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:49,250
So, Colleen Atwood's designed
tons of movies...
680
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,419
-HAHN: And won tons of Oscars.
-Tons of Oscars.
681
00:27:51,503 --> 00:27:55,465
So, we have even more of her work
in our collection, which is fantastic.
682
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:56,591
HAHN: Just gorgeous.
683
00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:59,844
This next one here looks like something
I'd like to wear out on a weekend.
684
00:27:59,928 --> 00:28:01,554
This is Michelle Williams' costume.
685
00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:02,639
HAHN: No, you're kidding!
686
00:28:02,722 --> 00:28:05,266
-MAXHIMER: From Fosse/Verdon.
-I love that show!
687
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:07,477
-MAXHIMER: One of our recent acquisitions.
-It's so fun,
688
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,688
'cause it really brings alive
the Hollywood legacy.
689
00:28:09,771 --> 00:28:11,398
And it's a great compliment to Disney too,
690
00:28:11,481 --> 00:28:13,483
to have all this
as a piece to plug into it.
691
00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:16,111
Thank you for showing me around.
It's a pleasure.
692
00:28:16,236 --> 00:28:19,155
No problem! Actually, there's some people
down at Disneyland,
693
00:28:19,239 --> 00:28:21,032
-archivists from the archives.
-HAHN: Yeah.
694
00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:22,367
Maybe you could go see them.
695
00:28:22,492 --> 00:28:24,202
That's great.
I just can't go to Disneyland.
696
00:28:24,285 --> 00:28:26,037
I have to go
to Walt's office at the studio.
697
00:28:26,121 --> 00:28:28,331
I've been trying to make it there all day.
698
00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:29,499
I can't go there.
699
00:28:29,582 --> 00:28:30,750
(TRAIN WHISTLE HOOTING)
700
00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:33,253
Ah, the simple pleasures
of a delicious corn dog.
701
00:28:35,922 --> 00:28:40,385
Walt Disney wanted entertainment that
the entire family could enjoy together.
702
00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:44,180
And I think that's why Disneyland
is such a huge success.
703
00:28:44,305 --> 00:28:48,143
Much like the books, movies,
everything else that's Disney.
704
00:28:48,226 --> 00:28:50,562
It's not just for grown-ups,
not just for kids.
705
00:28:50,645 --> 00:28:54,274
It's for everyone, and Walt knew that
and embraced that.
706
00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:57,444
It's so important
to preserve Disney history,
707
00:28:57,610 --> 00:29:02,240
but in particular Walt Disney's history
because Walt is Disney.
708
00:29:02,532 --> 00:29:05,577
And, you know, it is impossible
to talk about Disney,
709
00:29:05,660 --> 00:29:09,205
whether in animation,
in parks, in merchandise,
710
00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:14,043
in live-action movies without somehow
coming all back to Walt.
711
00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:15,920
(BELL DINGING)
712
00:29:16,379 --> 00:29:17,964
(ANNOUNCER SPEAKING)
713
00:29:19,507 --> 00:29:20,967
-Becky?
-Oh, hi, Don!
714
00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:23,762
What are you doing here?
How did you get here so fast?
715
00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:25,638
(MYSTICAL MUSIC PLAYING)
716
00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:28,099
-CLINE: We have our ways.
-Oh, you're harboring magic.
717
00:29:28,183 --> 00:29:31,019
What are you doing down here?
We're at Disneyland of all places,
718
00:29:31,102 --> 00:29:33,354
and you have what, a display?
What is this?
719
00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:36,274
I'm doing a presentation
later here in the train station.
720
00:29:36,357 --> 00:29:38,985
So I thought I would bring
a couple of really fun pieces
721
00:29:39,068 --> 00:29:41,029
to share from opening day of Disneyland.
722
00:29:41,112 --> 00:29:43,531
-You brought this down from the archives?
-I did.
723
00:29:43,615 --> 00:29:45,700
-And Donald Duck is spectacular.
-(CHUCKLES)
724
00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:47,327
Well, this is his best friend.
725
00:29:47,410 --> 00:29:49,662
Oh, I'm sorry.
Sometimes I get them mixed up.
726
00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:51,498
-This is Mickey Mouse.
-Fantastic!
727
00:29:51,581 --> 00:29:53,541
He is here. He's engineer Mickey.
728
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,753
So this is the Mickey Mouse
that actually rode in on the train,
729
00:29:56,836 --> 00:29:58,797
with Walt on opening day.
730
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,132
-Seriously? Back in 1955?
-Exactly.
731
00:30:01,216 --> 00:30:04,719
So, this is like him coming back home
again after a lot of years.
732
00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:08,139
This is the first time we've brought him
back here to the train station.
733
00:30:08,223 --> 00:30:10,391
-Is that right?
-Yeah, 65 years ago, nearly.
734
00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:11,726
It's a historic occasion.
735
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:14,229
It is indeed, and to keep him company,
736
00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:16,439
I also brought another
very historic piece,
737
00:30:16,523 --> 00:30:19,984
which is the Disneyland name tag
that Walt Disney wore on opening day.
738
00:30:20,068 --> 00:30:23,112
-HAHN: That's actually Walt's name tag?
-That's his actual name tag.
739
00:30:23,196 --> 00:30:25,281
-It's number one.
-HAHN: And it's brass.
740
00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:26,366
It is. It's brass.
741
00:30:26,449 --> 00:30:28,284
-It has a pin back on it.
-That's beautiful!
742
00:30:28,368 --> 00:30:29,869
CLINE: And it says number one on there.
743
00:30:29,953 --> 00:30:31,955
Of course, they didn't have
names on them at that time.
744
00:30:32,038 --> 00:30:36,000
They just had numbers in the early years.
So he, of course, had number one.
745
00:30:36,084 --> 00:30:37,168
BOTH: And he should.
746
00:30:37,252 --> 00:30:40,505
We know this is Walt's, because we have
a photo of him wearing it.
747
00:30:40,588 --> 00:30:44,968
Also, it was in Roy's collection
when Roy turned over his personal effects
748
00:30:45,051 --> 00:30:49,180
to the archives in the '70s.
This was in his materials,
749
00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:51,349
and there was a note there
saying this is Walt's name tag.
750
00:30:51,432 --> 00:30:52,475
-HAHN: Isn't that something?
-Yeah.
751
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,602
-So we know for sure.
-HAHN: It's a little treasure.
752
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:55,770
It is indeed.
753
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:56,896
What else is going on here?
754
00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:00,525
You're doing a presentation, and you have
exhibits down here all the time.
755
00:31:00,608 --> 00:31:01,651
What else you doing?
756
00:31:01,734 --> 00:31:03,027
Well, after this, I'm going over
757
00:31:03,111 --> 00:31:06,823
to the Carthay Circle Restaurant
over in Disney, California Adventure,
758
00:31:06,906 --> 00:31:08,575
across the way,
and we're gonna go over there.
759
00:31:08,658 --> 00:31:11,035
We have exhibit cases over there
and we change out exhibits,
760
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:12,495
so I'm gonna go there next.
761
00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:14,414
-Can I tag along if I behave?
-Of course.
762
00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:17,041
-But no eating corn dogs on the way.
-Then I'm out.
763
00:31:17,125 --> 00:31:18,501
-Okay, sorry.
-No, sorry.
764
00:31:19,586 --> 00:31:21,629
What I love is the archives
isn't just this kind of
765
00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:23,548
dusty holding tank for the past.
766
00:31:23,631 --> 00:31:28,261
It's like this living, breathing archive,
and you guys do exhibits everywhere.
767
00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:33,224
So, Becky, we're here
at the Carthay Circle restaurant,
768
00:31:33,308 --> 00:31:35,143
which is the most beautiful place.
769
00:31:35,226 --> 00:31:36,686
-Isn't it gorgeous?
-It really is.
770
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:39,606
And you have some displays here
that are breathtaking.
771
00:31:39,689 --> 00:31:42,775
Yes, actually, this particular
display case was built for us
772
00:31:42,859 --> 00:31:45,111
-when this building was constructed.
-HAHN: Really?
773
00:31:45,194 --> 00:31:46,571
They added this in so we could share
774
00:31:46,654 --> 00:31:49,407
some of our assets with the guests
who come to the restaurant.
775
00:31:49,532 --> 00:31:52,243
So if I come here to dine,
I can learn about the company
776
00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:54,579
and see some really cool stuff
about Walt Disney.
777
00:31:54,662 --> 00:31:55,955
We do that in a lot of our parks.
778
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:57,749
-You have the best job ever.
-I do.
779
00:31:57,832 --> 00:32:00,376
You really do. You brought
some other stuff with us
780
00:32:00,460 --> 00:32:02,712
about the Carthay Circle Theatre,
which isn't there anymore.
781
00:32:02,795 --> 00:32:04,213
But that's where Snow White premiered.
782
00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:06,841
So, I brought some, what we call ephemera,
from our collection.
783
00:32:07,258 --> 00:32:09,844
One of the most amazing things
about the Carthay Circle
784
00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:12,513
was that it hosted the premiere of
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
785
00:32:12,597 --> 00:32:14,223
-HAHN: That's right.
-1937.
786
00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:16,851
And so I brought along something
from the premiere,
787
00:32:16,935 --> 00:32:18,144
which is this program.
788
00:32:18,227 --> 00:32:19,479
Isn't that beautiful?
789
00:32:19,562 --> 00:32:21,606
This looks like it was printed yesterday.
This is the original?
790
00:32:21,689 --> 00:32:23,566
Yeah, it is from the...
791
00:32:23,650 --> 00:32:26,194
I won't touch it
'cause I have corn dog everywhere.
792
00:32:26,277 --> 00:32:30,448
Okay, but this is really special
because it features this centerpiece,
793
00:32:30,531 --> 00:32:32,033
-which is silver foil.
-Yes.
794
00:32:32,158 --> 00:32:34,827
And this, I love, this ad.
"Best wishes to Walt Disney
795
00:32:34,911 --> 00:32:36,371
"from the Harman-Ising Studios."
796
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:38,873
Oh, yeah. It's like Hugh Harman
and Rudy Ising.
797
00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:42,794
They were colleagues
of Walt's from Kansas City. Yeah.
798
00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:47,674
And so here is the centerpiece
showing Carthay Circle Theater
799
00:32:47,757 --> 00:32:50,259
and introducing the film to the world.
800
00:32:50,343 --> 00:32:51,344
HAHN: Wow!
801
00:32:51,427 --> 00:32:53,262
And this shows what a big event it was.
802
00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:56,683
This is the police pass
from the world premiere for Snow White.
803
00:32:56,766 --> 00:33:00,478
HAHN: You would have had this
maybe in your vehicle or...
804
00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:01,688
Oh, my gosh.
805
00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,523
CLINE: And this was
from Bill Cottrell's collection.
806
00:33:03,606 --> 00:33:07,151
So he was one of Walt's chief guys
and his brother-in-law.
807
00:33:07,235 --> 00:33:09,988
It's interesting because the archives
has these precious piece of artwork,
808
00:33:10,071 --> 00:33:11,698
which the Walt Disney Company
is known for,
809
00:33:11,781 --> 00:33:14,409
but you also have this
great ephemera that's kind of...
810
00:33:14,492 --> 00:33:17,537
It tells the story
of the history so deeply.
811
00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:19,455
We have lots of eye candy,
like the costumes
812
00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:20,707
and the props and things like that.
813
00:33:20,873 --> 00:33:24,252
But it's the document collections
that were the start of the archives.
814
00:33:24,335 --> 00:33:25,461
-Yeah.
-And this is one of
815
00:33:25,545 --> 00:33:28,214
the most important parts of our
collection, is this kind of stuff.
816
00:33:28,297 --> 00:33:30,049
Well, I know you wanted
to get back up to Walt's office,
817
00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:32,635
so if you want to go ahead and head up,
the staff will be there to let you in.
818
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,638
I will, because it's so cool
being here at Disneyland.
819
00:33:35,805 --> 00:33:37,765
I'm not sure how I got here, but...
820
00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:39,183
(WHOOSHES)
821
00:33:39,267 --> 00:33:40,476
Becky?
822
00:33:45,314 --> 00:33:47,233
The magic of the archives
is that everybody
823
00:33:47,316 --> 00:33:49,569
who comes in here with a project
824
00:33:49,736 --> 00:33:51,195
brings in their own passion,
825
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,198
and then will bring in
their own materials, too,
826
00:33:54,282 --> 00:33:56,159
and say, "Hey, we have this.
What do you have?"
827
00:33:56,325 --> 00:33:58,327
And then you end up having
this great cross-collaboration
828
00:33:58,786 --> 00:34:02,040
and pollination of new material
that makes it even better.
829
00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:05,251
It's an exciting feeling to go in there
830
00:34:05,334 --> 00:34:07,879
and see all these things
that we all grew up with,
831
00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:10,006
that were all some kind of pop culture
832
00:34:10,089 --> 00:34:11,466
milestones or touch points for us.
833
00:34:12,425 --> 00:34:16,387
And it enthuses you to add to that legacy
834
00:34:16,471 --> 00:34:20,224
and to contribute to this
great history that Disney has.
835
00:34:20,516 --> 00:34:24,687
It's really, really valuable to be able
to keep these things in one place
836
00:34:24,771 --> 00:34:28,066
where you can have access to them
for your business purposes.
837
00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:31,861
But then we've taken it
and done a lot of outreach since then.
838
00:34:31,986 --> 00:34:33,279
We're doing exhibits
839
00:34:33,362 --> 00:34:36,991
and we're sharing the assets
of the archives with the world.
840
00:34:37,116 --> 00:34:38,868
You know, it's really important.
841
00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:44,457
Hey, Joanna, whatcha doing?
842
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:47,710
Were you and Becky
on the teacups at Disneyland this morning?
843
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,048
(BOTH CHEERING)
844
00:34:52,215 --> 00:34:54,300
Yes... No! I mean no, we weren't.
845
00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:57,303
-I mean yes... Well, hi!
-Hi!
846
00:34:57,386 --> 00:34:59,889
Yeah, so we... I was on my way to Walt's
office, and we're here in Legends Plaza,
847
00:34:59,972 --> 00:35:01,641
and I see... I walked by
all these great names
848
00:35:01,808 --> 00:35:04,644
like Fred MacMurray and Richard Sherman.
849
00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:07,480
The Legends Ceremony's been
going on for decades, hasn't it?
850
00:35:07,563 --> 00:35:10,817
Yes. Fred MacMurray was actually
our very first Disney Legend.
851
00:35:11,150 --> 00:35:14,028
The Disney Legends Program
started in 1987.
852
00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:16,489
And the company started it
to honor the men and women
853
00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:19,492
who have made a significant impact
on the Disney legacy.
854
00:35:19,575 --> 00:35:22,829
HAHN: It's great. I see people I work with
over here like Woolie Reitherman,
855
00:35:22,912 --> 00:35:24,747
that I started out with,
and Eric Larson and Frank Thomas
856
00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:26,499
and all Ollie Johnston,
and all these people.
857
00:35:27,041 --> 00:35:29,377
And it's just a great way
to commemorate people
858
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:31,295
that have helped build the Disney Company.
859
00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:33,339
-Absolutely.
-Now, what's this behind us?
860
00:35:33,506 --> 00:35:37,093
JOANNA PRATT: So this is a sculpture
of the Disney Legends award.
861
00:35:37,218 --> 00:35:39,971
It was sculpted by the very talented
sculptor Andrea Favilli.
862
00:35:40,054 --> 00:35:41,139
HAHN: Oh, he's amazing.
863
00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:44,725
PRATT: Yes, and this statue
is actually 14 feet tall
864
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:47,603
and weighs 1,652 pounds.
865
00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:48,938
That's close to what I weigh, actually.
866
00:35:49,063 --> 00:35:50,273
-That's amazing.
-(LAUGHING)
867
00:35:50,606 --> 00:35:54,110
The actual Disney Legends award
that we give the honorees at the ceremony
868
00:35:54,193 --> 00:35:56,696
is 22 inches tall
and weighs around 14 pounds.
869
00:35:57,196 --> 00:36:00,199
It's a very special thing
to be part of the Disney legacy.
870
00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:02,743
Keep in mind, when I came here as a kid,
871
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:04,745
I was working alongside
872
00:36:04,912 --> 00:36:07,790
the men and women
who made the Disney classics.
873
00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:10,918
That is, the same films I saw as a child.
874
00:36:11,502 --> 00:36:12,503
That's very special.
875
00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:15,506
I can't think of anything
more special than that.
876
00:36:16,465 --> 00:36:18,301
HAHN: Dave's around here.
Oh, here he is. Dave Smith...
877
00:36:18,384 --> 00:36:20,428
He's right here.
We have to visit Dave Smith.
878
00:36:20,511 --> 00:36:23,222
I know, because we wouldn't be standing
here if it weren't for Dave Smith.
879
00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:26,559
What a great legacy he left us
by starting the Disney Archives.
880
00:36:26,684 --> 00:36:28,978
PRATT: Yeah. He became
a Disney Legend in 2007
881
00:36:29,103 --> 00:36:31,689
and started the archives in 1970.
882
00:36:31,772 --> 00:36:32,815
HAHN: Yeah.
883
00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:34,650
I actually worked for him
for a little while,
884
00:36:34,734 --> 00:36:37,862
like, carting stuff around
when I was a kind of mail room guy...
885
00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:40,239
and always good, always the consummate
886
00:36:40,406 --> 00:36:42,325
-encyclopedia of anything Disney.
-Absolutely.
887
00:36:42,783 --> 00:36:44,660
HAHN: Thanks, Dave.
888
00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:47,455
This is so great.
This is all the Star Wars people.
889
00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:50,416
There's George Lucas and
Carrie Fisher, who I love...
890
00:36:50,499 --> 00:36:51,959
and Mark Hamill.
891
00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:53,502
But look how he signed his name.
It's "Luke Hamill."
892
00:36:53,628 --> 00:36:54,921
PRATT: Luke Hamill. We just spoke
893
00:36:55,004 --> 00:36:56,547
to Mark Hamill about
becoming a Disney Legend.
894
00:36:57,924 --> 00:37:02,762
Please welcome Disney Legend,
Luke Skywalker, Mark Hamill.
895
00:37:02,845 --> 00:37:04,722
(CROWD CHEERING)
896
00:37:05,848 --> 00:37:07,892
MARK HAMILL: When I heard
I was going to be given
897
00:37:07,975 --> 00:37:12,230
a Disney Legend award, I was... shocked.
898
00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:15,900
You know, uh...
I'm still in a state of shock
899
00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:18,069
because you never expect
900
00:37:18,694 --> 00:37:20,488
anything like that to come your way.
901
00:37:20,571 --> 00:37:25,785
I mean, from Fred MacMurray on,
these are incredible people.
902
00:37:26,452 --> 00:37:28,454
Disney made you feel that no matter
903
00:37:28,537 --> 00:37:31,082
where you came from, you were welcome.
904
00:37:31,749 --> 00:37:35,336
And I like that,
and that's what I always wanted.
905
00:37:35,419 --> 00:37:39,465
Thank you for letting me be a Legend.
I'll try not to mess it up.
906
00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:40,633
(CROWD LAUGHS)
907
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,136
I still, to this day,
can't really reconcile the fact
908
00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:47,139
that I was recognized in this way,
909
00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:51,644
and it was bittersweet because,
you know, it was Carrie Fisher, as well.
910
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:53,729
And she wasn't there.
911
00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:57,858
And, had she been,
it would have been even more fun
912
00:37:58,359 --> 00:38:01,988
because it was impossible
to not have fun being around her.
913
00:38:02,071 --> 00:38:04,407
You know, if she were here now,
she'd be behind you,
914
00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:07,034
giving me the middle finger
and trying to make me laugh on camera.
915
00:38:07,576 --> 00:38:13,207
Disney was such an important part
of my life as a child.
916
00:38:13,332 --> 00:38:16,961
I mean, the Disneyland television
show, Walt Disney Presents,
917
00:38:17,044 --> 00:38:18,879
Wonderful World of Color,
were important in more ways
918
00:38:19,005 --> 00:38:21,590
than just seeing wonderful
animation on television.
919
00:38:21,882 --> 00:38:26,137
Walt Disney was one of the first people
to pull back the curtain
920
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:29,974
and show how movies
and television were made.
921
00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:32,643
Which I was fascinated,
because at the time,
922
00:38:32,768 --> 00:38:35,313
even then I knew... I didn't know
if I wanted to be an actor,
923
00:38:35,396 --> 00:38:39,692
but I wanted to be in the business
of making that magic.
924
00:38:40,109 --> 00:38:41,235
You know, he was very clever.
925
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:42,653
He would do, you know,
926
00:38:42,737 --> 00:38:44,947
the making of
Darby O'Gill and the Little People,
927
00:38:45,072 --> 00:38:46,532
but he did it as a documentary.
928
00:38:46,657 --> 00:38:50,161
And where the premise
is that leprechauns were real.
929
00:38:50,244 --> 00:38:54,999
Fantastic, and he really
became a iconic figure.
930
00:38:55,082 --> 00:38:56,334
You know, Uncle Walt.
931
00:38:57,251 --> 00:38:59,587
I remember being at Disneyland as a kid
932
00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:03,341
and seeing him riding down Main Street
933
00:39:03,924 --> 00:39:08,512
and, just riveted,
because it was hard to imagine
934
00:39:08,637 --> 00:39:10,681
having to see him in the flesh.
935
00:39:10,765 --> 00:39:12,683
For me, it was like seeing Abraham Lincoln
936
00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:17,146
or somebody that was
monumental in my upbringing.
937
00:39:17,229 --> 00:39:18,731
So, you know...
938
00:39:19,315 --> 00:39:20,775
I owe him a lot.
939
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:24,653
Well, I'm very humbled to be a part of it.
940
00:39:24,737 --> 00:39:27,239
To be even a small part of it.
941
00:39:27,323 --> 00:39:28,991
It's a thrill. It really is.
942
00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:30,451
And I tell my kids
943
00:39:30,534 --> 00:39:32,870
when they roll their eyes
and go, "Oh, Dad."
944
00:39:32,953 --> 00:39:35,081
I say, "Look,
you're talking to a Legend, okay?
945
00:39:35,164 --> 00:39:38,125
"I have a physical object that proves...
946
00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:41,629
"It's empirical evidence...
(LAUGHS HEARTILY)
947
00:39:41,754 --> 00:39:43,547
"that I am a Legend."
948
00:39:43,964 --> 00:39:46,133
But they're not completely convinced.
949
00:39:46,592 --> 00:39:47,885
I'm still Dad.
950
00:39:47,968 --> 00:39:50,429
But, like I told you, it's too late,
even if there's a recount,
951
00:39:50,513 --> 00:39:52,431
I'm not giving it back.
952
00:39:53,516 --> 00:39:54,517
HAHN: Oh, that is so great.
953
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,395
Well, Joanna, thank you so much
for showing me around Legends Plaza.
954
00:39:57,478 --> 00:39:59,397
-I get so inspired when I come here...
-You're very welcome.
955
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,899
...but I'm just going to nip off
to Walt Disney's office.
956
00:40:01,982 --> 00:40:03,109
-Sounds good.
-So, see you next time.
957
00:40:03,192 --> 00:40:04,693
-See you next time.
-EERIE VOICE: Don.
958
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:06,404
Don!
959
00:40:07,571 --> 00:40:08,572
Mark?
960
00:40:08,781 --> 00:40:12,451
You will go to the digitization lab.
961
00:40:13,327 --> 00:40:14,537
It's very cool.
962
00:40:15,204 --> 00:40:17,289
Digitization? I'd love to, but I've...
963
00:40:17,373 --> 00:40:18,624
I really need to get to Walt's office.
964
00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:23,504
You don't need to go to
Walt's office right this second.
965
00:40:23,796 --> 00:40:26,841
I don't need to go to Walt's office
right this second.
966
00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:31,095
You should check out the digitization lab.
967
00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:33,681
I should check out the digitization lab.
968
00:40:35,182 --> 00:40:37,059
And you should bring me
969
00:40:37,226 --> 00:40:40,813
the next time you go to
Disneyland for a corn dog.
970
00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:46,152
I should go to Disneyland
for a scrumptious corn dog.
971
00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:47,820
(DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING)
972
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:49,405
Ah, no, no, no, no!
973
00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:50,990
Digitization!
974
00:40:51,073 --> 00:40:52,992
Digitization!
975
00:40:53,075 --> 00:40:54,577
(SIGHS IN EXASPERATION)
976
00:40:55,870 --> 00:40:56,954
Digitization.
977
00:40:57,621 --> 00:40:58,622
Got it.
978
00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:02,042
(DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING)
979
00:41:06,547 --> 00:41:07,715
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS)
980
00:41:10,551 --> 00:41:11,552
HAHN: Ty.
TY POPKO: Hey, Don.
981
00:41:11,635 --> 00:41:14,013
-HAHN: How are you?
-What brings you out here?
982
00:41:14,096 --> 00:41:16,098
I just, uh...
I have no idea how I got here.
983
00:41:16,182 --> 00:41:17,892
To be honest, I think it was the Force.
984
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:20,102
What are you doing?
Where are we? What's this?
985
00:41:20,227 --> 00:41:21,729
This is the digitization department.
986
00:41:21,812 --> 00:41:23,898
We're doing some photogrammetry
scanning right here.
987
00:41:24,023 --> 00:41:25,441
So, essentially, what we're
988
00:41:25,524 --> 00:41:27,818
doing is taking pictures
all around this object
989
00:41:27,902 --> 00:41:29,653
and trying to create
a 3D model out of that.
990
00:41:29,778 --> 00:41:31,363
So, let me get this right
for my dinosaur brain.
991
00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:34,158
You're taking this on a turntable,
taking pictures of it,
992
00:41:34,241 --> 00:41:35,534
-many pictures of it...
-POPKO: Correct.
993
00:41:35,618 --> 00:41:38,078
...that go into the computer.
And then where does it go?
994
00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:41,248
Once the photographs are taken here,
we bring it over into another application.
995
00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:42,791
Ah!
996
00:41:42,875 --> 00:41:46,212
This application is looking at
like points between the photos
997
00:41:46,295 --> 00:41:48,547
and then aligning the
photographs in 3D space.
998
00:41:48,631 --> 00:41:52,510
Every one of these blue pieces
inside of this image
999
00:41:52,593 --> 00:41:55,095
are actually a photograph inside of here.
1000
00:41:55,221 --> 00:41:56,430
HAHN: Really?
1001
00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:58,390
Any of this stuff could be sent
over to a 3D printer.
1002
00:41:58,474 --> 00:41:59,975
We can create a version of it.
1003
00:42:00,059 --> 00:42:02,645
And then sometimes we've done that
in order to replace
1004
00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:05,731
maybe original inside of a spot
that somebody might need to pick up,
1005
00:42:05,814 --> 00:42:10,945
or if it's in a situation where the
original item might be damaged.
1006
00:42:11,028 --> 00:42:12,571
You must've scanned
a lot of interesting things.
1007
00:42:12,655 --> 00:42:14,198
Like the archives has everything,
1008
00:42:14,281 --> 00:42:15,282
-which I love.
-Mmm-hmm.
1009
00:42:15,574 --> 00:42:17,159
What's some of the
weirdest stuff you've scanned?
1010
00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:19,578
POPKO: One of my favorite things
that we've scanned is a ride vehicle
1011
00:42:19,662 --> 00:42:20,788
from Snow White's Scary Adventures.
1012
00:42:20,871 --> 00:42:22,039
HAHN: Really? Isn't that huge?
1013
00:42:22,122 --> 00:42:23,290
POPKO: It's gigantic.
1014
00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:25,042
It took more than 100 photos, for sure.
1015
00:42:25,167 --> 00:42:27,378
But it was amazing to be able to kind of
1016
00:42:27,461 --> 00:42:29,463
-pull that up inside of a computer...
-HAHN: Wow.
1017
00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:32,132
...and rotate around it very easily
and send it around.
1018
00:42:32,883 --> 00:42:34,218
We're scanning sculptures,
1019
00:42:34,301 --> 00:42:36,845
and here you're scanning this
beautiful piece of one sheet art
1020
00:42:36,971 --> 00:42:38,847
from Beauty and the Beast,
which is really close to my heart.
1021
00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:41,267
So, who did this
and what are you doing here?
1022
00:42:41,350 --> 00:42:44,228
POPKO: This piece of art is
made by John Alvin.
1023
00:42:44,311 --> 00:42:46,105
So, because it's so large, we need
1024
00:42:46,188 --> 00:42:48,607
-to capture it in several different tiles.
-HAHN: Mmm.
1025
00:42:48,691 --> 00:42:50,401
POPKO: This piece itself,
to capture in such
1026
00:42:50,484 --> 00:42:52,778
a high resolution that we're looking for,
1027
00:42:52,861 --> 00:42:55,072
we needed to capture it
in about 12 sections.
1028
00:42:55,155 --> 00:42:57,366
We bring those 12 sections
into the computer
1029
00:42:57,491 --> 00:42:59,159
and stitch it together into
1030
00:42:59,243 --> 00:43:01,203
a one single piece at the very end.
1031
00:43:01,287 --> 00:43:04,999
HAHN: So, you're getting, like, a mega
file of what this looks like in the end
1032
00:43:05,082 --> 00:43:08,002
that you can use in probably almost
any size, then, if you need to blow it up.
1033
00:43:08,085 --> 00:43:10,337
Yeah, so once something
leaves our table here,
1034
00:43:10,421 --> 00:43:13,257
it goes over to the unsung heroes
of the metadata department.
1035
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:16,343
-Anything that gets captured here...
-I love saying, "metadata department."
1036
00:43:16,427 --> 00:43:17,511
-Metadata department.
-Mmm-hmm.
1037
00:43:17,636 --> 00:43:20,514
Everything that gets captured here
has to get the information added to it
1038
00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:22,641
so that somebody can find it
and search for it later.
1039
00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:25,394
Do you have artwork like
from live-action movies here,
1040
00:43:25,477 --> 00:43:27,813
for example... (ECHOING) The Black Hole?
1041
00:43:27,938 --> 00:43:29,273
-We actually do.
-Mmm-hmm.
1042
00:43:29,815 --> 00:43:31,817
So a piece like this is really fantastic
1043
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:33,819
because we can actually
capture it in one shot,
1044
00:43:33,902 --> 00:43:35,279
but on the back side...
1045
00:43:35,362 --> 00:43:37,656
The reason why we kind of
pulled this out is on the back side,
1046
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:40,075
we found some additional artwork
while we were capturing
1047
00:43:40,534 --> 00:43:42,161
that is a really light drawing...
1048
00:43:42,244 --> 00:43:45,664
Oh, yeah. Like a pencil drawing
of an abandoned piece or something.
1049
00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:47,374
POPKO: Correct. We see
history that we didn't know of
1050
00:43:47,458 --> 00:43:49,668
-before we captured it.
-HAHN: Oh, it's really great.
1051
00:43:49,793 --> 00:43:51,378
So, I should let you get back to work
1052
00:43:51,503 --> 00:43:53,672
because obviously you've
spent far too much time with me.
1053
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:55,799
And next? What's around here?
1054
00:43:55,883 --> 00:43:57,092
-What can I look at?
-Sure.
1055
00:43:57,176 --> 00:43:59,762
So, this item came from
our cold storage out here.
1056
00:43:59,887 --> 00:44:03,015
So if you wanted to go and see more stuff
like this, you could check that out.
1057
00:44:03,098 --> 00:44:04,141
Cold storage, I'm there.
1058
00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:11,982
HAHN: Hey, Nikki.
1059
00:44:12,066 --> 00:44:13,150
Hi, Don.
1060
00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:14,443
How you doing? It's good to see you.
1061
00:44:14,568 --> 00:44:16,028
-Good to see you.
-Uh, Ty sent me over here,
1062
00:44:16,111 --> 00:44:18,322
he said you were working
on some stuff from Epcot.
1063
00:44:18,405 --> 00:44:22,534
Yeah, I'm looking at some costume
art from the World of Motion attraction.
1064
00:44:22,618 --> 00:44:25,079
HAHN: Oh, my God, I love that attraction.
Sadly, it's not there anymore.
1065
00:44:25,162 --> 00:44:27,122
But it's great that you have
all this kept from it
1066
00:44:27,206 --> 00:44:29,124
because it was like a huge
animatronics thing. Wasn't it?
1067
00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:32,336
NIKKI NGUYEN: It was, it had the largest
number of audio animatronics figures
1068
00:44:32,461 --> 00:44:34,171
-of its time. Yeah.
-HAHN: I didn't know that.
1069
00:44:34,254 --> 00:44:36,632
Wow. So what are we looking
at specifically here?
1070
00:44:36,715 --> 00:44:38,759
Well, I pulled a number
of different pieces here.
1071
00:44:38,884 --> 00:44:43,138
We've got some from the scene with
Leonardo Di Vinci and his flying machines.
1072
00:44:43,263 --> 00:44:45,683
-We've got some from the bicycle scene...
-HAHN: Oh, I love that.
1073
00:44:45,766 --> 00:44:49,186
NGUYEN: ...and then these out front are
all from the invention of the wheel scene.
1074
00:44:49,269 --> 00:44:51,146
HAHN: There's like fabric stapled
to all this stuff.
1075
00:44:51,230 --> 00:44:52,481
-NGUYEN: Yeah.
-What's the deal with that?
1076
00:44:52,564 --> 00:44:55,401
NGUYEN: These fabric swatches would help
as they envisioned a final look
1077
00:44:55,484 --> 00:44:57,611
-for the design.
-But the attention to detail is amazing.
1078
00:44:57,695 --> 00:45:00,406
I know Ward Kimball, among many
other people, worked on this attraction.
1079
00:45:00,489 --> 00:45:04,535
And it is so specific and amazing
and had such a great sense of humor
1080
00:45:04,618 --> 00:45:06,662
which a lot of these drawings
kind of show.
1081
00:45:07,830 --> 00:45:09,873
This looks like the end of Indiana Jones.
1082
00:45:09,957 --> 00:45:12,167
Like, what are in all these crates
like, what is this?
1083
00:45:12,251 --> 00:45:14,837
So these crates contain
our matte painting collection.
1084
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,588
-HAHN: Matte paintings.
-Some of our rarest
1085
00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:19,717
and, uh, most exciting pieces
in our art collection.
1086
00:45:19,842 --> 00:45:23,721
They're stored in these crates, so they're
well protected and safe for travel.
1087
00:45:23,804 --> 00:45:27,015
And they're almost unbolted.
Shall we unbolt the rest of them?
1088
00:45:27,099 --> 00:45:28,100
Yeah, let's do it.
1089
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,601
Okay.
1090
00:45:30,269 --> 00:45:33,397
And of course, uh, gosh, the security,
1091
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,858
but mainly, the safety
of this artwork is crazy.
1092
00:45:35,941 --> 00:45:38,944
Yeah, you have to make sure
that it's protected
1093
00:45:39,027 --> 00:45:41,613
-and it's safe for any bumps on the road.
-HAHN: Why are you letting me handle it?
1094
00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:45,909
Yes, okay and there's, like, foam inside.
1095
00:45:45,993 --> 00:45:48,746
Yes, we've got foam in between
each of the matte paintings.
1096
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:51,665
-HAHN: The suspense is killing me.
-And we're about to unveil.
1097
00:45:51,957 --> 00:45:53,709
HAHN: Oh, my gosh, look at that.
1098
00:45:53,959 --> 00:45:56,253
This is a matte painting
from Bedknobs and Broomsticks...
1099
00:45:56,378 --> 00:45:59,548
-HAHN: Wow.
-It features the town of Pepperinge Eye.
1100
00:45:59,631 --> 00:46:01,842
And it was from a scene
early on in the film
1101
00:46:01,925 --> 00:46:04,344
when the British officer
is driving through the town.
1102
00:46:04,428 --> 00:46:07,097
Right, right, right.
Like this technique is something
1103
00:46:07,181 --> 00:46:09,057
that Disney Studios is really known for,
1104
00:46:09,516 --> 00:46:10,601
Peter Ellenshaw, especially,
1105
00:46:10,684 --> 00:46:14,271
and so this clear area in the middle
would have been
1106
00:46:14,354 --> 00:46:16,565
-where the car drove through.
-NGUYEN: Exactly. Yeah.
1107
00:46:16,648 --> 00:46:19,860
Matte painters use plates of glass
or sometimes Masonite board
1108
00:46:19,943 --> 00:46:22,613
on which they craft
highly detailed paintings
1109
00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:26,325
to mask the live-action scene
that they don't want.
1110
00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:27,785
Yes. And so this was painted on glass?
1111
00:46:27,868 --> 00:46:30,120
-Yes. (LAUGHS)
-Nothing fragile here. Okay, good.
1112
00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:32,956
Well, let's just put the stuff back
on top of it, so it doesn't go anywhere.
1113
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,293
And these were all full of,
like, things like this?
1114
00:46:36,418 --> 00:46:40,339
-Yes.
-You have the best job, that is so cool.
1115
00:46:40,422 --> 00:46:42,424
-All right, well, let's keep moving on.
-Okay.
1116
00:46:43,717 --> 00:46:44,927
HAHN: What's over here?
1117
00:46:45,135 --> 00:46:47,763
NGUYEN: Over here, we have
some of our animator models.
1118
00:46:47,846 --> 00:46:50,390
Oh, wow. Look at that. Oh, my gosh.
1119
00:46:50,474 --> 00:46:51,767
-Pinocchio.
-Yeah.
1120
00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:55,187
Got Geppetto over here. I pulled a few
from Pinocchio for you to see.
1121
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:56,814
Now, so when were these made?
1122
00:46:57,231 --> 00:47:00,025
So these were made by
the character model department,
1123
00:47:00,359 --> 00:47:02,986
which operated from 1937 to 1941.
1124
00:47:03,070 --> 00:47:05,322
HAHN: It was the great Joe Grant
ran that department.
1125
00:47:05,405 --> 00:47:07,282
NGUYEN: Yes, exactly,
under the leadership of Joe Grant.
1126
00:47:07,366 --> 00:47:08,659
HAHN: Yeah, he's a good friend, yeah.
1127
00:47:08,742 --> 00:47:12,120
I really love working with these,
especially since I get to pick him up
1128
00:47:12,204 --> 00:47:17,876
and hold them and find out even more
by looking at not just the model itself,
1129
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,503
but looking at the underside.
1130
00:47:19,586 --> 00:47:22,297
-HAHN: Look at that.
-And from that, you can see the return
1131
00:47:22,381 --> 00:47:24,049
to character model department stamped.
1132
00:47:24,132 --> 00:47:27,886
So we know that, um, these were ones
that were lent out to animators
1133
00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:30,722
and then needed to be returned
to the character model department.
1134
00:47:31,056 --> 00:47:35,018
They had some sort of tracking system
that was used at some point along the way.
1135
00:47:35,102 --> 00:47:38,522
And then this sticker right here
is actually something
1136
00:47:38,605 --> 00:47:41,483
from the Walt Disney Archives, the AM160,
1137
00:47:41,567 --> 00:47:44,903
and that was an early way
that the Walt Disney Archives
1138
00:47:44,987 --> 00:47:47,114
tracked these animator models.
1139
00:47:47,197 --> 00:47:51,118
And so when I see bits like this,
it connects me with the history
1140
00:47:51,201 --> 00:47:54,538
-of the archiving that's been done here...
-Absolutely.
1141
00:47:54,621 --> 00:47:57,499
-...connects me with our past. So, yeah.
-Unbelievable.
1142
00:47:57,833 --> 00:48:03,005
But we have a number of animator models,
and some are glazed,
1143
00:48:03,088 --> 00:48:06,008
some are not,
we see different coloration choices.
1144
00:48:06,133 --> 00:48:08,427
HAHN: 'Cause he doesn't look like the
Jiminy Cricket that's in the final movie.
1145
00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:10,470
He has kind of more of a buggy thing,
but I know
1146
00:48:10,554 --> 00:48:12,806
Ward Kimball changed
the model a little bit
1147
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:15,601
to a little green man, but they did
do a new maquette for it?
1148
00:48:15,684 --> 00:48:18,979
Well, we have this maquette also,
which you can see has...
1149
00:48:19,062 --> 00:48:22,107
-Looks like Jiminy Cricket.
-Yeah, so we can see the evolution
1150
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:25,485
of the characters
over time through our collection also.
1151
00:48:25,611 --> 00:48:27,946
Say, that's pretty swell.
1152
00:48:29,406 --> 00:48:30,532
HAHN: This is really strange, Nikki.
1153
00:48:30,616 --> 00:48:32,326
You have all kinds of things,
but this is an Alien poster.
1154
00:48:32,409 --> 00:48:33,619
What's this doing here?
1155
00:48:33,702 --> 00:48:36,121
Well, this is part
of our Fox publicity collection.
1156
00:48:36,204 --> 00:48:37,205
HAHN: Oh, I get it. Okay.
1157
00:48:37,289 --> 00:48:40,125
We have materials that date back to 1915
1158
00:48:40,208 --> 00:48:43,629
and are examples of domestic
and international posters,
1159
00:48:43,921 --> 00:48:47,841
-standees, lobby cards.
-You're starting to inherit and merge
1160
00:48:48,008 --> 00:48:49,927
with the people of Fox
that keep all of this stuff.
1161
00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:52,512
-And what a treasure it is. How fun.
-Absolutely.
1162
00:48:52,596 --> 00:48:55,515
And over here there's some blueprints
of what looks like the studio.
1163
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:56,683
-Is that what this is?
-Yeah.
1164
00:48:56,767 --> 00:49:00,479
These are some architectural plans
that date back to the late 1930s
1165
00:49:00,646 --> 00:49:03,732
of the Walt Disney Studios
Burbank studio lot.
1166
00:49:03,857 --> 00:49:07,027
This one up here is for a proposed
administration building.
1167
00:49:07,152 --> 00:49:08,862
However, it was never constructed.
1168
00:49:08,946 --> 00:49:12,324
But we do know a little bit about
what was intended to be their offices
1169
00:49:12,449 --> 00:49:17,871
for casting, publicity, legal and even
a suite of offices for Roy O. Disney.
1170
00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:20,248
Really? So Roy would have been over
in the administration building
1171
00:49:20,332 --> 00:49:22,000
and Walt would've been somewhere
in the animation building
1172
00:49:22,084 --> 00:49:23,752
-with his artists, presumably so.
-NGUYEN: Exactly.
1173
00:49:23,835 --> 00:49:25,796
Yeah, Walt's office was right there.
1174
00:49:25,879 --> 00:49:28,173
Oh, I know.
I've been trying to get there all day.
1175
00:49:28,256 --> 00:49:29,299
You should really go.
1176
00:49:29,591 --> 00:49:32,386
Tell me about it. Is it...
Is it time? Can I go down?
1177
00:49:32,469 --> 00:49:33,720
-Yeah.
-Okay.
1178
00:49:33,845 --> 00:49:34,846
-Here I go.
-(CHUCKLES)
1179
00:49:41,228 --> 00:49:43,855
LEONARD MALTIN: Dave's first
actual job was inventorying
1180
00:49:43,939 --> 00:49:45,691
the contents of Walt's office,
1181
00:49:46,566 --> 00:49:50,821
which he did, uh, diligently
and that has paid off handsomely
1182
00:49:50,946 --> 00:49:55,867
in just the last few years, as the company
decided to restore Walt's office.
1183
00:49:55,951 --> 00:49:57,536
When I first heard the idea
1184
00:49:57,619 --> 00:50:00,247
of restoring Walt's office
and the fact that
1185
00:50:00,747 --> 00:50:05,919
much of what had been in Walt's office
on the day that he died in 1966,
1186
00:50:06,378 --> 00:50:08,672
we still had and had been preserved,
1187
00:50:08,797 --> 00:50:11,967
I thought it was a fantastic idea.
Like the archives, I thought
1188
00:50:12,384 --> 00:50:14,761
the office could serve as
an anchor of sorts,
1189
00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:20,100
in a great reminder of what this
company was, and in many respects,
1190
00:50:20,183 --> 00:50:24,479
an example of what this company still is,
and I thought that this would
1191
00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:28,900
bring Walt to life a little bit more
in more of a physical manifestation
1192
00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:30,736
than he had been in a long time.
1193
00:50:31,194 --> 00:50:33,613
I think it's very appropriate
that the archives started
1194
00:50:33,697 --> 00:50:36,283
in Walt's office
with Dave doing that inventory.
1195
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:39,828
Now here, we are today again
in Walt's office sharing his legacy.
1196
00:50:46,501 --> 00:50:49,046
Hello? Whoa!
1197
00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:50,797
Well, we finally made it.
1198
00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:52,382
This is Walt Disney's office,
1199
00:50:52,466 --> 00:50:54,676
and it's so beautifully
restored by the archives.
1200
00:50:55,552 --> 00:50:57,304
And I wanted to bring you up here
because you get a sense
1201
00:50:57,429 --> 00:50:59,765
not only of the business side of it
and the meetings
1202
00:50:59,848 --> 00:51:01,016
that may have taken place here,
1203
00:51:01,141 --> 00:51:03,769
but there's also a sense
of Walt Disney, the man.
1204
00:51:03,894 --> 00:51:06,646
I mean, this is where he worked,
where he sat.
1205
00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:08,648
This is his desk. It's so iconic.
1206
00:51:08,982 --> 00:51:11,068
ED OVALLE: This is the desk that
he would come in every day
1207
00:51:11,151 --> 00:51:13,653
first thing in the morning
and sit here at this desk,
1208
00:51:13,737 --> 00:51:16,156
and one of the first things he would
do would be sign autographs.
1209
00:51:16,448 --> 00:51:17,783
-HAHN: Really?
-The secretary would bring in
1210
00:51:17,866 --> 00:51:20,535
a little stack of note papers
and red grease pencils.
1211
00:51:20,619 --> 00:51:22,662
"Well, write this to this person
or just sign your name."
1212
00:51:22,746 --> 00:51:27,209
Can you imagine? And was he a clean
desk or like a messy desk guy?
1213
00:51:27,292 --> 00:51:30,003
-Secretaries say that he was messy.
-I like that about him.
1214
00:51:30,087 --> 00:51:31,088
A lot of things around.
1215
00:51:31,171 --> 00:51:33,882
He used to have his color pencils
spread out across the desk,
1216
00:51:33,965 --> 00:51:37,844
ready for him to use to write
on his scripts or anything else.
1217
00:51:37,928 --> 00:51:39,387
Well, let's hope some of the afterglow
1218
00:51:39,471 --> 00:51:41,640
-of this desk comes off on both of us.
-Right.
1219
00:51:41,723 --> 00:51:43,350
Let's go in the next room
because I hear that's
1220
00:51:43,517 --> 00:51:44,684
more of an informal office in there.
1221
00:51:44,768 --> 00:51:46,228
-Is that right?
-So let's head over.
1222
00:51:47,854 --> 00:51:49,940
Oh, man, there's a whole
another office in here.
1223
00:51:50,023 --> 00:51:51,066
What's the deal with this?
1224
00:51:51,191 --> 00:51:52,859
-Right, this is Walt's working office.
-Wow.
1225
00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:54,319
So that one was a formal office.
1226
00:51:54,402 --> 00:51:56,196
-So that's where he would greet visitors.
-Right.
1227
00:51:56,279 --> 00:51:58,532
This is where all the real work was done.
1228
00:51:58,615 --> 00:52:00,325
-Kind of a "roll up your sleeves" place.
-Right.
1229
00:52:00,450 --> 00:52:01,827
All the meetings were in here.
1230
00:52:01,993 --> 00:52:04,496
All of my childhood memories,
your childhood Disney memories
1231
00:52:04,579 --> 00:52:06,957
were talked about in this office,
theme parks, TV shows.
1232
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,334
Everything was talked
about in this space here.
1233
00:52:09,417 --> 00:52:13,296
We've often been asked,
where do we get the ideas for our stories?
1234
00:52:14,005 --> 00:52:17,509
So, on this program, we will try
to answer in part this question.
1235
00:52:17,592 --> 00:52:19,511
We hope that through our television shows
1236
00:52:19,594 --> 00:52:22,139
that you will join us and take part
in the building of Disneyland
1237
00:52:22,973 --> 00:52:26,476
and that you will find here
a place of knowledge and happiness.
1238
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:29,396
Now that we've told you all about fares,
1239
00:52:30,063 --> 00:52:32,190
shown you how to build a dinosaur
1240
00:52:32,274 --> 00:52:35,026
and explained the principles
of audio animatronics,
1241
00:52:35,735 --> 00:52:39,406
the only thing left for us
to tell you about is our next program.
1242
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:43,076
I always marvel. He's like
the hardest working guy in Hollywood.
1243
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,787
Just the work ethic
from these guys was amazing.
1244
00:52:45,871 --> 00:52:48,123
OVALLE: And all the different projects
he was working on at the same time.
1245
00:52:48,248 --> 00:52:50,250
HAHN: Yeah, dozens 'cause
he's got scripts going here
1246
00:52:50,333 --> 00:52:53,962
and I noticed on this wall, there's even
Disneyland maps and things over here.
1247
00:52:54,254 --> 00:52:55,589
Was this going on
while he was in this office?
1248
00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:58,925
-I guess.
-OVALLE: Yes, this is Disneyland 1965.
1249
00:52:59,009 --> 00:53:01,720
So when Walt was planning Disneyland,
it would've been a drawing.
1250
00:53:01,803 --> 00:53:03,805
So as time went by, they updated it.
1251
00:53:03,889 --> 00:53:06,600
And you can see this is the last
photo that Walt had here.
1252
00:53:06,683 --> 00:53:09,644
Unbelievable. And these tags,
are those original or...
1253
00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:11,104
OVALLE: Yes, everything original here.
1254
00:53:11,188 --> 00:53:13,565
So these little tags here
are calling out things
1255
00:53:13,648 --> 00:53:16,568
that are now open in red and yellow
and coming attractions.
1256
00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:19,404
HAHN: What an amazing space.
And you kind of feel
1257
00:53:19,487 --> 00:53:22,657
the good ghosts in here,
of all the people that have come and gone,
1258
00:53:22,824 --> 00:53:26,119
all the conversations that have
happened in here with Walt and Roy
1259
00:53:26,244 --> 00:53:27,746
-and his business associates.
-OVALLE: Right.
1260
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:31,166
And I heard there's actually
somewhere in here, a kitchen.
1261
00:53:31,291 --> 00:53:35,253
There is, considering that, you know,
1940, but it's state-of-the-art back then.
1262
00:53:35,337 --> 00:53:37,547
So there is a kitchen.
It's right over there.
1263
00:53:41,343 --> 00:53:43,511
-That wall is moving!
-Sure is.
1264
00:53:43,595 --> 00:53:44,804
That's the kitchen.
1265
00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:47,098
Oh, my God, is that, like, an original?
1266
00:53:47,182 --> 00:53:48,642
It's original. Thankfully,
1267
00:53:48,767 --> 00:53:51,102
no matter who moved in here and changed
the layout of this office space,
1268
00:53:51,311 --> 00:53:53,980
this kitchen stayed exactly the way it was
when Walt was here.
1269
00:53:54,147 --> 00:53:57,067
The stove, the range,
all the cabinets and the little pulls,
1270
00:53:57,150 --> 00:53:58,985
exactly the way it was when Walt was here.
1271
00:53:59,194 --> 00:54:01,404
That is so amazing.
So let's... We can close the magic doors.
1272
00:54:01,488 --> 00:54:03,323
I have one more question about...
In the formal office,
1273
00:54:03,406 --> 00:54:04,532
is that what you're calling it here?
1274
00:54:04,616 --> 00:54:07,869
Okay, so, Ed, this is the place.
1275
00:54:07,953 --> 00:54:08,995
This is where Richard was,
1276
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:10,997
like where Richard and Robert
played all their songs here for Walt.
1277
00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:12,332
-Is that right?
-OVALLE: That's right.
1278
00:54:12,415 --> 00:54:15,502
This is the piano that Richard
and Robert would sit and play
1279
00:54:15,710 --> 00:54:18,463
Feed the Birds from Mary Poppins,
Walt's favorite song.
1280
00:54:19,172 --> 00:54:21,466
RICHARD SHERMAN: There's a story
that goes with this song,
1281
00:54:21,549 --> 00:54:25,387
and it's really kind of special
because it means a lot to me, too.
1282
00:54:26,012 --> 00:54:28,181
Friday afternoons, many times
he'd call us into his office
1283
00:54:28,265 --> 00:54:30,392
and he'd ask us what we were working on.
1284
00:54:30,475 --> 00:54:33,019
We tell him we're working on this
and that, and he knew it.
1285
00:54:33,144 --> 00:54:34,437
But do we tell him anyhow?
1286
00:54:34,562 --> 00:54:36,564
And then he'd say...
He'd look out that north window
1287
00:54:37,399 --> 00:54:39,234
out of his office and he'd say, "Play it."
1288
00:54:39,609 --> 00:54:43,321
And I knew he wanted to hear
his favorite song, Feed the Birds,
1289
00:54:43,405 --> 00:54:44,948
because that was his credo.
1290
00:54:45,031 --> 00:54:46,449
He was feeding the birds.
1291
00:54:46,533 --> 00:54:49,828
He was giving that little bit
of love to the world all the time,
1292
00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:52,289
and it was his quiet,
little personal thing.
1293
00:54:52,372 --> 00:54:55,792
He loved that. He loved the idea
that it doesn't take much to give love,
1294
00:54:56,167 --> 00:54:57,711
and that's what the song is all about.
1295
00:54:58,253 --> 00:54:59,296
And so I played it for him
1296
00:54:59,754 --> 00:55:02,924
and I played it on this piano
many, many times.
1297
00:55:03,049 --> 00:55:05,468
I played it on this piano
the very first time.
1298
00:55:15,186 --> 00:55:18,857
(SINGING) Early each day
to the steps of St. Paul's
1299
00:55:18,940 --> 00:55:21,359
The little old bird woman comes
1300
00:55:22,610 --> 00:55:26,781
In her own special way
to the people she calls
1301
00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:30,493
Come buy my bags full of crumbs
1302
00:55:31,453 --> 00:55:33,538
It's always eerie to walk into this office
1303
00:55:33,997 --> 00:55:36,249
because it looks almost
exactly the way it did
1304
00:55:36,333 --> 00:55:39,252
when I first saw it over 45 years ago.
1305
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:43,548
I had just come here
to the studio to become
1306
00:55:43,965 --> 00:55:47,844
the archivist for the company,
and they allowed me access
1307
00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:50,138
to Walt Disney's office,
and it was amazing.
1308
00:55:50,221 --> 00:55:53,141
I mean, I've never been
in a famous person's office before.
1309
00:55:53,683 --> 00:55:56,686
KATHRYN BEAUMONT: So he said,
"Well, let's just go over to the couch
1310
00:55:56,895 --> 00:55:59,522
"and take a look, so we'll sit down here
1311
00:55:59,856 --> 00:56:01,858
"and we'll look at the book
1312
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,652
"and I could tell you some
of the things that
1313
00:56:05,070 --> 00:56:07,614
we're going to be doing to change
1314
00:56:08,073 --> 00:56:10,950
"and use both stories together."
1315
00:56:11,451 --> 00:56:14,412
Oh, this is like a time capsule to me,
1316
00:56:14,954 --> 00:56:17,749
uh, coming in here and seeing, uh,
1317
00:56:18,708 --> 00:56:23,004
what Walt was really
focused on in the last, uh,
1318
00:56:23,588 --> 00:56:27,842
period of his life,
you know, the expansion of Disneyland.
1319
00:56:27,967 --> 00:56:31,388
I mean, this is an early master plan
of Walt Disney World.
1320
00:56:31,930 --> 00:56:33,139
So much of it ended up
1321
00:56:33,598 --> 00:56:37,227
exactly as he drew it, uh, on a napkin
1322
00:56:38,144 --> 00:56:39,687
the first time...
1323
00:56:39,771 --> 00:56:42,607
(SINGING) Though her words
1324
00:56:42,690 --> 00:56:45,652
Are simple and few
1325
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:51,950
Listen, listen, she's calling to you
1326
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:56,996
But I'll never forget the feeling. Uh...
1327
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:01,251
It's like I was in here a week ago. Uh...
1328
00:57:02,085 --> 00:57:05,505
I, you know... I spent a lot of time
on that lot out there
1329
00:57:06,464 --> 00:57:07,757
and I spent some time up here,
1330
00:57:08,341 --> 00:57:10,927
and, uh, yeah, I, uh...
1331
00:57:11,886 --> 00:57:16,391
It's a wonderful feeling.
It's just a familial feeling.
1332
00:57:23,398 --> 00:57:24,399
Thank you.
1333
00:57:27,277 --> 00:57:28,903
So one more thing.
I want to ask you about this.
1334
00:57:28,987 --> 00:57:31,030
-I think it's a mouse girl, which is...
-CLINE: Hey, there.
1335
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:35,160
-Heard you were here. Good to see you.
-Becky! Good to see you.
1336
00:57:35,243 --> 00:57:37,370
I've been bumming around here all day,
and it's spectacular.
1337
00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:39,164
Ed's put up with me and showed me around.
1338
00:57:39,581 --> 00:57:40,915
Explained everything in here.
1339
00:57:40,999 --> 00:57:42,625
It's like the whole history of Disney
1340
00:57:42,709 --> 00:57:45,587
-kind of comes from this office.
-It is. It's the heart of the studio.
1341
00:57:45,712 --> 00:57:47,922
You must be so proud
about this restoration and what it means.
1342
00:57:48,006 --> 00:57:49,507
And I feel, like, Walt in the walls,
1343
00:57:49,674 --> 00:57:51,092
-a little bit of Dave Smith everywhere.
-Yep.
1344
00:57:51,301 --> 00:57:54,137
And it's just so cool to see you up here
1345
00:57:54,220 --> 00:57:56,222
-and all the work that you're doing.
-Oh, thank you.
1346
00:57:56,306 --> 00:57:57,557
-So happy anniversary.
-Thank you.
1347
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,101
-50 years for the archives.
-Amazing.
1348
00:58:00,185 --> 00:58:01,895
And I really appreciate your letting me
1349
00:58:01,978 --> 00:58:03,855
stay up here overnight
because I just won't move
1350
00:58:03,938 --> 00:58:05,190
anything around, I'll sleep on the sofa.
1351
00:58:05,273 --> 00:58:07,567
-No problem.
-It's been wonderful being up here.
1352
00:58:07,650 --> 00:58:10,487
Thank you for letting me come up here
and see this really, really special place.
1353
00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:12,030
Well, please come back anytime.
1354
00:58:12,155 --> 00:58:13,490
Hey, let's walk off in the sunset.
1355
00:58:13,656 --> 00:58:15,158
-(GASPS) Perfect!
-Okay, here we go.
1356
00:58:16,951 --> 00:58:18,495
CLINE: I'll even let you hit the lights.
1357
00:58:18,578 --> 00:58:20,622
HAHN: I'll hit the lights. Good night.
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