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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:05,001 Subtitles by explosiveskull www.OpenSubtitles.org 2 00:00:08,168 --> 00:00:10,502 For those of you who don't follow it, 3 00:00:10,504 --> 00:00:12,372 or may not remember it, 4 00:00:13,206 --> 00:00:17,208 one of these really evil people 5 00:00:17,210 --> 00:00:19,444 in the online world, 6 00:00:19,446 --> 00:00:21,914 out of whole cloth make up this story 7 00:00:21,916 --> 00:00:23,949 that John Podesta and I are running 8 00:00:23,951 --> 00:00:26,551 a child trafficking ring 9 00:00:26,553 --> 00:00:30,422 in the basement of the Comet Pizza Parlor. 10 00:00:30,424 --> 00:00:31,791 By the way, there is no basement. 11 00:00:31,793 --> 00:00:34,526 Yeah, there is no basement. 12 00:00:34,528 --> 00:00:39,466 But if you migrate that crazy story to Facebook posts, 13 00:00:40,735 --> 00:00:42,935 there are people who will believe that, 14 00:00:42,937 --> 00:00:46,438 including this very unfortunate young man 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,273 in North Carolina, 16 00:00:48,275 --> 00:00:51,711 believing that he was on a mission 17 00:00:51,713 --> 00:00:54,312 because he saw it on Facebook. 18 00:00:54,314 --> 00:00:56,381 He saw it in other places online. 19 00:00:56,383 --> 00:00:59,719 He saw it in quote news outlets, 20 00:00:59,721 --> 00:01:04,156 and so he was there on a mission of rescue. 21 00:01:06,593 --> 00:01:08,328 People could have gotten killed. 22 00:01:18,106 --> 00:01:19,471 Tonight, a terrifying moment. 23 00:01:19,473 --> 00:01:23,175 Authorities say a man with an AR-15, opening fire, 24 00:01:23,177 --> 00:01:25,678 after police say he showed up at a family pizza joint. 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,580 Welsh drove six hours from Salisbury, North Carolina, 26 00:01:28,582 --> 00:01:29,915 to self investigate. 27 00:01:29,917 --> 00:01:32,752 A conspiracy theory called "Pizzagate." 28 00:01:32,754 --> 00:01:35,654 Viciously phony rumors that the pizza joint 29 00:01:35,656 --> 00:01:37,957 was the base for a child abuse ring, 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,026 using underground tunnels led by Hillary Clinton 31 00:01:41,028 --> 00:01:42,762 and her campaign chief John Podesta. 32 00:01:42,764 --> 00:01:43,929 This is insane. 33 00:01:43,931 --> 00:01:45,463 No one was hurt, 34 00:01:45,465 --> 00:01:47,867 but this became an alarming consequence 35 00:01:47,869 --> 00:01:52,270 of the growing online phenomena, fake news. 36 00:01:52,272 --> 00:01:53,304 The police say there is 37 00:01:53,306 --> 00:01:55,640 no sex trafficking conspiracy, 38 00:01:55,642 --> 00:01:58,677 but millions read about it on dozens of websites, 39 00:01:58,679 --> 00:02:01,881 including one called "Danger in Play." 40 00:02:01,883 --> 00:02:04,819 "Danger in Play" is written by Michael Cernovich. 41 00:02:08,689 --> 00:02:10,323 All media is narrative. 42 00:02:11,859 --> 00:02:13,493 And we are in a war of narratives. 43 00:02:15,062 --> 00:02:17,497 There is a story about me. 44 00:02:18,866 --> 00:02:21,533 There is a story that I'm just a very mean, 45 00:02:21,535 --> 00:02:23,368 awful, nasty troll. 46 00:02:26,406 --> 00:02:28,140 Is that the totality of who I am? 47 00:02:28,142 --> 00:02:30,508 No, have I been mean before in the past? 48 00:02:30,510 --> 00:02:31,844 Yes. 49 00:02:31,846 --> 00:02:34,180 Here's Hillary's handler, and here's Hillary collapsing. 50 00:02:37,685 --> 00:02:39,384 That's the narrative about me. 51 00:02:39,386 --> 00:02:41,921 I view it more in terms of sort of pro-wrestling. 52 00:02:41,923 --> 00:02:43,722 Bill Clinton is a rapist! 53 00:02:43,724 --> 00:02:44,725 Bill Clinton is a rapist! 54 00:02:45,693 --> 00:02:46,659 And the people are gonna view you 55 00:02:46,661 --> 00:02:48,694 as the heel or the bad guy, 56 00:02:48,696 --> 00:02:50,328 you just have to play up into that role. 57 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:52,564 Assault, they're assaulting me! 58 00:02:52,566 --> 00:02:53,766 They're attacking me! 59 00:02:53,768 --> 00:02:55,400 And that's what I've done 60 00:02:55,402 --> 00:02:57,069 is I've recognized that people 61 00:02:57,071 --> 00:02:58,671 are gonna misinterpret me, 62 00:02:58,673 --> 00:03:00,739 completely twist my words out of context. 63 00:03:00,741 --> 00:03:02,775 And in many cases, fabricate things, 64 00:03:02,777 --> 00:03:04,542 and I can either spend all of my day 65 00:03:04,544 --> 00:03:06,212 explaining why that isn't true, 66 00:03:06,214 --> 00:03:08,747 or I can just embrace that heel role 67 00:03:08,749 --> 00:03:10,950 that you would as a pro wrestler. 68 00:03:10,952 --> 00:03:12,284 My name is Mike Cernovitch, 69 00:03:12,286 --> 00:03:14,021 and I'm a journalist, author, and filmmaker. 70 00:03:16,556 --> 00:03:18,190 That's amazing. 71 00:03:20,895 --> 00:03:22,862 Alright so yeah I just texted Scott Adams, 72 00:03:22,864 --> 00:03:26,198 which says, you know, 73 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,900 hey Scott, my latest film was on fake news. 74 00:03:27,902 --> 00:03:29,601 And one area we wanted to cover 75 00:03:29,603 --> 00:03:32,304 was the role cutting and bias is playing fake news, 76 00:03:32,306 --> 00:03:33,806 as well as your two movies theory. 77 00:03:33,808 --> 00:03:36,041 Would you be in for an interview to discuss this? 78 00:03:36,043 --> 00:03:37,577 So I think Scott will do it. 79 00:03:39,579 --> 00:03:41,080 But that would be what we would want 80 00:03:41,082 --> 00:03:42,748 to talk to him about. 81 00:03:42,750 --> 00:03:44,750 He's in the bay area, right? 82 00:03:44,752 --> 00:03:46,051 Yeah he's in the bay area. 83 00:03:48,756 --> 00:03:50,756 I am Scott Adams. 84 00:03:50,758 --> 00:03:53,259 I'm the creator of the Dilbert comic strip. 85 00:03:53,261 --> 00:03:55,761 I'm a trained hypnotist and have studied 86 00:03:55,763 --> 00:03:57,462 persuasion for decades. 87 00:03:57,464 --> 00:04:01,066 In persuasion, there's a thing called framing. 88 00:04:01,068 --> 00:04:03,601 It's how you think about a situation. 89 00:04:03,603 --> 00:04:05,637 People can frame things very differently. 90 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:08,173 And skilled persuaders are especially good at it. 91 00:04:08,175 --> 00:04:10,676 And so it's something I'm trained to do. 92 00:04:10,678 --> 00:04:12,678 Whoever gets there first, 93 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,613 it's tough to get that into your head. 94 00:04:15,615 --> 00:04:17,983 So going first makes a big difference. 95 00:04:17,985 --> 00:04:20,753 I've started doing a lot of live streaming on Periscope, 96 00:04:20,755 --> 00:04:22,922 and when there's a big story, 97 00:04:22,924 --> 00:04:26,591 I can be live to the world within minutes. 98 00:04:26,593 --> 00:04:29,828 I just pick up my phone and I'm live to the world. 99 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:31,830 And the framing that I put on things, 100 00:04:31,832 --> 00:04:33,799 I'm quite aware of the fact 101 00:04:33,801 --> 00:04:37,703 that because I'm both persuasive by training, 102 00:04:37,705 --> 00:04:42,710 and I'm first, that my framing is exceptionally sticky. 103 00:04:43,443 --> 00:04:44,810 A lot of what we see as fake news 104 00:04:44,812 --> 00:04:47,846 is two movies playing on one screen. 105 00:04:47,848 --> 00:04:50,115 So if you took a bunch of the people on the right, 106 00:04:50,117 --> 00:04:51,784 and a bunch of the people on the left, 107 00:04:51,786 --> 00:04:52,718 and put 'em in the same theater, 108 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,485 and said, "Watch this movie." 109 00:04:54,487 --> 00:04:56,521 And when they left, they would come out 110 00:04:56,523 --> 00:04:58,724 with completely different ideas 111 00:04:58,726 --> 00:05:00,292 of what they had just watched. 112 00:05:00,294 --> 00:05:01,193 Even though they had watched 113 00:05:01,195 --> 00:05:02,661 exactly the same thing. 114 00:05:02,663 --> 00:05:04,229 The director of controversial 115 00:05:04,231 --> 00:05:05,664 documentary "The Red Pill" 116 00:05:05,666 --> 00:05:07,733 is in Australia to promote her film, 117 00:05:07,735 --> 00:05:09,201 which has sparked protests. 118 00:05:09,203 --> 00:05:11,370 It's really quite an experience 119 00:05:11,372 --> 00:05:14,173 to have fake news written about you personally. 120 00:05:14,175 --> 00:05:15,741 It's happened to me a number of times. 121 00:05:15,743 --> 00:05:18,576 Usually in the form of somebody's imagining 122 00:05:18,578 --> 00:05:20,245 what's in my dark soul, 123 00:05:20,247 --> 00:05:23,514 and they imagine I hate something almost always. 124 00:05:23,516 --> 00:05:25,250 That's completely off-base. 125 00:05:25,252 --> 00:05:26,852 Until it happens to you, 126 00:05:26,854 --> 00:05:28,721 and you see it repeatedly, 127 00:05:28,723 --> 00:05:30,756 you can't really understand 128 00:05:30,758 --> 00:05:32,758 how powerful the fake news is, 129 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,395 how much it changes real people's lives. 130 00:05:36,397 --> 00:05:38,733 And how widespread it is. 131 00:05:40,434 --> 00:05:43,035 Oh, fake news. 132 00:05:48,175 --> 00:05:49,174 Yes. 133 00:05:50,878 --> 00:05:53,946 And I think people who have been 134 00:05:53,948 --> 00:05:55,848 printed in the media a lot 135 00:05:55,850 --> 00:05:58,884 can start to identify who is fake news, 136 00:05:58,886 --> 00:06:02,553 because they know their true story more than anyone. 137 00:06:02,555 --> 00:06:04,923 And they can see who's not telling the truth. 138 00:06:06,727 --> 00:06:09,627 When I was 21, I enlisted my mother 139 00:06:09,629 --> 00:06:11,096 as my producer and camera woman, 140 00:06:11,098 --> 00:06:12,431 and we hit the road filming, 141 00:06:12,433 --> 00:06:14,400 and made our first film, "Daddy I Do," 142 00:06:14,402 --> 00:06:15,936 which looked at women's rights. 143 00:06:17,138 --> 00:06:20,372 And that film was really embraced 144 00:06:20,374 --> 00:06:22,474 and supported by Planned Parenthood. 145 00:06:22,476 --> 00:06:27,046 They funded a northwestern screening tour of the film, 146 00:06:27,048 --> 00:06:29,314 and flew us out, and we did a bunch of the screenings 147 00:06:29,316 --> 00:06:31,316 and had dinner parties, and it was wonderful, 148 00:06:31,318 --> 00:06:34,953 and it was really supported in feminist circles. 149 00:06:34,955 --> 00:06:36,321 So we had a lot of success. 150 00:06:36,323 --> 00:06:39,992 And you know, everyone was saying that we had, 151 00:06:39,994 --> 00:06:42,161 or that I had a bright future as a filmmaker 152 00:06:42,163 --> 00:06:43,462 because of that film. 153 00:06:43,464 --> 00:06:45,497 And then my second big feature film 154 00:06:45,499 --> 00:06:47,598 was about LGBT rights. 155 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,969 And then I made a slough of short films about, 156 00:06:50,971 --> 00:06:52,438 mostly about women's issues. 157 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,306 And that was kind of my brand. 158 00:06:54,308 --> 00:06:55,808 That was my reputation. 159 00:06:55,810 --> 00:06:58,145 And I had a lot of support in that. 160 00:07:07,521 --> 00:07:08,654 Okay. 161 00:07:08,656 --> 00:07:10,289 A controversial documentary 162 00:07:10,291 --> 00:07:12,590 on the men's rights movement 163 00:07:12,592 --> 00:07:14,793 has had screenings in Melbourne canceled 164 00:07:14,795 --> 00:07:16,929 after a petition claimed the film 165 00:07:16,931 --> 00:07:18,430 was misogynistic propaganda. 166 00:07:18,432 --> 00:07:21,033 Misogynist propaganda, anti-women. 167 00:07:21,035 --> 00:07:23,102 It is absolutely a propaganda film. 168 00:07:23,104 --> 00:07:24,002 It has tied up its moment. 169 00:07:24,004 --> 00:07:25,603 Her name is Cassie Jaye, 170 00:07:25,605 --> 00:07:27,840 and she made a lot of people very very angered. 171 00:07:30,811 --> 00:07:33,846 You don't really question their views in the film. 172 00:07:33,848 --> 00:07:34,947 Did you see the film? 173 00:07:34,949 --> 00:07:36,348 But why didn't you ask him about that? 174 00:07:36,350 --> 00:07:37,983 I did ask them about that. 175 00:07:37,985 --> 00:07:39,985 Aren't generalizations like that dangerous? 176 00:07:39,987 --> 00:07:40,853 Because your publicist wouldn't 177 00:07:40,855 --> 00:07:42,454 send us the full thing. 178 00:07:42,456 --> 00:07:44,289 I sent you the screener link actually to the full film. 179 00:07:44,291 --> 00:07:46,358 She doesn't actually do the research. 180 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,662 Though many of the films backers are MRAs. 181 00:07:49,730 --> 00:07:51,163 This is just a conversation 182 00:07:51,165 --> 00:07:53,499 where we want to talk about men and boys problems 183 00:07:53,501 --> 00:07:55,633 for just five minutes. 184 00:07:55,635 --> 00:07:56,535 Cassie, we're out of time. 185 00:07:56,537 --> 00:07:57,803 We'll have to leave it there. 186 00:07:57,805 --> 00:08:00,808 But thank you very much. 187 00:08:02,076 --> 00:08:04,910 Initially, I thought I was gonna be making a film 188 00:08:04,912 --> 00:08:07,246 exposing men's rights activists 189 00:08:07,248 --> 00:08:11,483 as misogynist, rape apologists, women-haters, 190 00:08:11,485 --> 00:08:14,052 trying to turn back the clock on women's rights. 191 00:08:14,054 --> 00:08:16,855 And after that year of filming 44 people, 192 00:08:16,857 --> 00:08:19,925 I realized that the film I thought I was gonna make 193 00:08:19,927 --> 00:08:24,932 was not the truth of the story I got. 194 00:08:25,866 --> 00:08:27,833 I didn't change my views on gender equality. 195 00:08:27,835 --> 00:08:31,570 I actually expanded my views on gender equality 196 00:08:31,572 --> 00:08:34,339 that we should consider men in the equation. 197 00:08:34,341 --> 00:08:36,041 But they wanted to make it seem like 198 00:08:36,043 --> 00:08:38,544 I was against women's rights. 199 00:08:38,546 --> 00:08:40,345 I mean, even some of the interviews I did 200 00:08:40,347 --> 00:08:43,015 on Australian news, the lower third 201 00:08:43,017 --> 00:08:47,085 where they would say the title of the episode they're doing, 202 00:08:47,087 --> 00:08:52,026 one of the titles was, "Filmmaker Changes Her Views 203 00:08:52,693 --> 00:08:54,459 On Gender Equality." 204 00:08:54,461 --> 00:08:56,895 To inference that I'm now against women's rights, 205 00:08:56,897 --> 00:08:59,064 which couldn't be further from the truth. 206 00:08:59,066 --> 00:09:03,035 But the project in Australia, 207 00:09:03,037 --> 00:09:05,137 they put together a video package, 208 00:09:05,139 --> 00:09:07,472 setting me up as a monster. 209 00:09:07,474 --> 00:09:09,274 And in their graphics they said 210 00:09:09,276 --> 00:09:11,643 the Red Pill movie was funded 211 00:09:11,645 --> 00:09:13,378 by men's rights activists. 212 00:09:13,380 --> 00:09:16,415 Though many of the films backers are MRAs. 213 00:09:16,417 --> 00:09:19,084 And it's just this little soundbite 214 00:09:19,086 --> 00:09:22,621 in an effort to discredit my entire 215 00:09:22,623 --> 00:09:24,556 last four years work. 216 00:09:24,558 --> 00:09:26,058 I did a Kickstarter campaign. 217 00:09:26,060 --> 00:09:29,428 Everyone knows no one has creative control 218 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:31,063 if you're a Kickstarter backer. 219 00:09:31,065 --> 00:09:34,066 They're a minority of men's rights activists. 220 00:09:34,068 --> 00:09:35,400 A minority of feminists. 221 00:09:35,402 --> 00:09:38,637 And mostly people who didn't identify as either. 222 00:09:38,639 --> 00:09:41,139 And you know, moving forward with my career 223 00:09:41,141 --> 00:09:43,944 as a filmmaker, I don't know how 224 00:09:44,778 --> 00:09:46,311 this smear campaign will have 225 00:09:46,313 --> 00:09:49,116 impacted my future opportunities. 226 00:09:57,258 --> 00:10:02,263 When I started to see the media going after me, personally, 227 00:10:03,097 --> 00:10:04,596 like on the direct attack, 228 00:10:04,598 --> 00:10:07,101 trying to take down my credibility and my reputation, 229 00:10:09,436 --> 00:10:12,705 I felt cheated and lied to 230 00:10:12,707 --> 00:10:16,141 for my entire previous life before 231 00:10:16,143 --> 00:10:20,212 I became this public figure with the smear campaign. 232 00:10:20,214 --> 00:10:22,180 I feel like how can I have trusted 233 00:10:22,182 --> 00:10:23,515 anything they've ever said about 234 00:10:23,517 --> 00:10:24,983 all these other people who I've seen 235 00:10:24,985 --> 00:10:26,852 smeared in the media before, 236 00:10:26,854 --> 00:10:30,155 and I believed what the mainstream media said about them. 237 00:10:30,157 --> 00:10:31,523 First tonight, 238 00:10:31,525 --> 00:10:35,160 our report on the incendiary radio host, Alex Jones. 239 00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:39,564 He's known for promoting wild conspiracy theories. 240 00:10:40,901 --> 00:10:42,000 Over the years, his YouTube channel 241 00:10:42,002 --> 00:10:45,370 has racked up 1.3 billion views. 242 00:10:45,372 --> 00:10:47,906 He has millions of listeners. 243 00:10:47,908 --> 00:10:50,208 And the ear of our current president. 244 00:10:50,210 --> 00:10:51,977 Your reputation's amazing. 245 00:10:51,979 --> 00:10:53,378 I will not let you down. 246 00:10:53,380 --> 00:10:55,080 You will be impressed I hope. 247 00:10:55,082 --> 00:10:57,816 According to his own counsel, 248 00:10:57,818 --> 00:11:00,753 he is playing a character. 249 00:11:00,755 --> 00:11:02,054 But the idea that Jones 250 00:11:02,056 --> 00:11:04,823 doesn't necessarily believe everything he says 251 00:11:04,825 --> 00:11:07,694 may take some of his fans by surprise. 252 00:11:07,696 --> 00:11:11,063 He produces the show from his basement. 253 00:11:11,065 --> 00:11:13,065 Broadcasting worldwide. 254 00:11:13,067 --> 00:11:14,833 I'm your host Alex Jones. 255 00:11:14,835 --> 00:11:17,035 So what is the state of our world today? 256 00:11:17,037 --> 00:11:19,438 The quickening, the intensification, 257 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,173 the insanity, the wars. 258 00:11:21,175 --> 00:11:24,209 Why is Alex Jones in a movie about fake news? 259 00:11:24,211 --> 00:11:26,044 In fact, I bet when this film comes out, 260 00:11:26,046 --> 00:11:27,512 they're going to have reviews saying, 261 00:11:27,514 --> 00:11:30,048 "Ha ha, look at the filmmakers. 262 00:11:30,050 --> 00:11:33,251 "To cover fake news, they talk to the king of fake news." 263 00:11:33,253 --> 00:11:34,119 Wait a minute. 264 00:11:34,121 --> 00:11:36,088 Even if that was true, 265 00:11:36,090 --> 00:11:38,223 you'd want to talk to the king of fake news. 266 00:11:38,225 --> 00:11:40,125 Mike Cernovich is here with some amazing 267 00:11:40,127 --> 00:11:44,229 established filmmakers, putting on this big film, "Hoaxed." 268 00:11:44,231 --> 00:11:46,264 Dealing with mainstream media and fraud. 269 00:11:46,266 --> 00:11:48,066 And they asked me the question, are you an actor. 270 00:11:48,068 --> 00:11:50,602 When I engage in satire or acting, 271 00:11:50,604 --> 00:11:52,971 it's a joke when I say those things. 272 00:11:52,973 --> 00:11:56,208 I'm gonna go say some horrible things on air right now, 273 00:11:56,210 --> 00:11:58,778 to illustrate how the globalists are sick freaks. 274 00:11:58,780 --> 00:12:00,212 It doesn't mean I actually believe 275 00:12:00,214 --> 00:12:02,147 the things I'm about to say. 276 00:12:02,149 --> 00:12:04,316 Thing's really tight on the eyes. 277 00:12:04,318 --> 00:12:06,885 So get ready, this is Alex Jones. 278 00:12:06,887 --> 00:12:09,554 This is Alex Jones being an actor, let's go. 279 00:12:09,556 --> 00:12:12,057 You'll never defeat the human spirit! 280 00:12:12,059 --> 00:12:14,459 I'm liberal, huh, oh oh. 281 00:12:14,461 --> 00:12:16,128 I apologize, I apologize. 282 00:12:16,130 --> 00:12:16,995 Jesus forgive me. 283 00:12:16,997 --> 00:12:19,131 1776 will commence again 284 00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:21,166 if you try to take our firearms. 285 00:12:21,168 --> 00:12:23,301 We're such self-centered crap, 286 00:12:23,303 --> 00:12:26,171 that we don't even notice hell itself rising up. 287 00:12:26,173 --> 00:12:28,240 I don't like 'em putting chemicals in the water 288 00:12:28,242 --> 00:12:30,308 that turn the freaking frogs gay. 289 00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:32,010 I've got the fire of human liberty. 290 00:12:32,012 --> 00:12:33,445 I'm setting fires everywhere. 291 00:12:33,447 --> 00:12:38,150 And kids, Magellan's a lot cooler than Justin Bieber! 292 00:12:38,152 --> 00:12:39,752 It doesn't bother me, once you do it, whatever. 293 00:12:39,754 --> 00:12:41,420 I just, if you guys want to put it out, 294 00:12:41,422 --> 00:12:42,789 just make sure if you do do put it out, 295 00:12:42,791 --> 00:12:44,356 make sure people don't have a pulled muscle. 296 00:12:44,358 --> 00:12:45,991 Just don't say I'm a crazy person. 297 00:12:45,993 --> 00:12:47,359 Which I am kinda crazy already. 298 00:12:47,361 --> 00:12:49,995 But let me just start over, here we go. 299 00:12:51,298 --> 00:12:52,533 I wear many hats. 300 00:12:55,335 --> 00:12:58,303 But 99% of the time, I'm a father, 301 00:12:58,305 --> 00:13:00,706 I'm a patriot who wants to simply 302 00:13:00,708 --> 00:13:02,140 research the facts 303 00:13:02,142 --> 00:13:04,142 so we can live in a better world. 304 00:13:04,144 --> 00:13:07,179 And that's why since the time I was 21 years old, 305 00:13:07,181 --> 00:13:08,815 I've been on air, 306 00:13:08,817 --> 00:13:11,884 because I've known there's been a war on for our minds. 307 00:13:11,886 --> 00:13:14,486 The victory will be an endorsement of a philosophy. 308 00:13:14,488 --> 00:13:16,188 Sir, shouldn't we abolish the CFR? 309 00:13:16,190 --> 00:13:17,289 That's the real reality that 310 00:13:17,291 --> 00:13:18,190 none of you will talk about 311 00:13:18,192 --> 00:13:19,191 and most of you remembers. 312 00:13:19,193 --> 00:13:20,525 And I'm being drugged out, laugh at it. 313 00:13:20,527 --> 00:13:22,662 We need whistle blowers, 314 00:13:22,664 --> 00:13:23,995 and we need whistle blowers 315 00:13:23,997 --> 00:13:26,298 who aren't afraid of being smeared. 316 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:28,366 Courageous people that are willing 317 00:13:28,368 --> 00:13:30,003 to step into the limelight, 318 00:13:31,171 --> 00:13:35,040 and take the tomatoes being thrown at them. 319 00:13:35,042 --> 00:13:36,541 My entire career it's been about 320 00:13:36,543 --> 00:13:37,976 putting myself out there 321 00:13:37,978 --> 00:13:41,213 to take the hit first, to draw the enemy out, 322 00:13:41,215 --> 00:13:43,683 so that more people wake up to the larger picture. 323 00:13:43,685 --> 00:13:46,251 I knew Megyn Kelly was coming here to destroy me. 324 00:13:46,253 --> 00:13:49,689 I knew she was coming here to do the ultimate hit piece. 325 00:13:51,926 --> 00:13:55,060 And so I understood that I had to basically 326 00:13:55,062 --> 00:13:58,731 take her attack on so that I could use it as a way 327 00:13:58,733 --> 00:14:00,733 to educate my listeners and viewers 328 00:14:00,735 --> 00:14:03,335 on the anatomy of a hit piece. 329 00:14:03,337 --> 00:14:06,906 I think why smear campaigns happen to people like me 330 00:14:06,908 --> 00:14:10,611 is to send a warning to other people 331 00:14:11,612 --> 00:14:13,913 to not go off the reservation 332 00:14:13,915 --> 00:14:16,381 and do something like what I did. 333 00:14:16,383 --> 00:14:18,216 A warning to don't do that, 334 00:14:18,218 --> 00:14:21,854 or we're gonna do to you what we did to her. 335 00:14:21,856 --> 00:14:23,622 Because when you're one of the main subjects 336 00:14:23,624 --> 00:14:26,558 that's been chosen to be destroyed, 337 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,060 because they know that what I promote 338 00:14:29,062 --> 00:14:31,563 really does symbolize basic American values, 339 00:14:31,565 --> 00:14:33,131 if they can destroy that, 340 00:14:33,133 --> 00:14:35,233 they think they can really hurt their real enemy. 341 00:14:35,235 --> 00:14:36,468 That's the American people. 342 00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:38,303 We gotta take this guy out. 343 00:14:38,305 --> 00:14:39,939 Why you gotta take me out? 344 00:14:39,941 --> 00:14:41,974 Because I'm not part of the permanent political class. 345 00:14:41,976 --> 00:14:44,442 You gotta take me out 'cause I'm a business executive, 346 00:14:44,444 --> 00:14:48,313 and I can smell the rotting cadaver of Washington 347 00:14:48,315 --> 00:14:51,216 that sits in the basement of the American public 348 00:14:51,218 --> 00:14:52,484 and the American community. 349 00:14:52,486 --> 00:14:54,386 And I'm ready to help the American people 350 00:14:54,388 --> 00:14:56,421 remove the cadaver from the basement. 351 00:14:56,423 --> 00:14:59,257 You see, the way I was getting hit, 352 00:14:59,259 --> 00:15:00,960 one of my buddies said to me, 353 00:15:00,962 --> 00:15:02,394 you're getting hit like that 354 00:15:02,396 --> 00:15:04,296 because you can articulate the President's strategy. 355 00:15:04,298 --> 00:15:05,432 I'm on BBC Newswatch, 356 00:15:06,466 --> 00:15:08,500 and I'm being interviewed by Emily, 357 00:15:08,502 --> 00:15:10,235 and it's a live presentation. 358 00:15:10,237 --> 00:15:12,404 I've got the White House behind me. 359 00:15:12,406 --> 00:15:13,438 And we're talking. 360 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,073 It's over, I shake her hand. 361 00:15:15,075 --> 00:15:17,576 I'm walking to my office in the West Wing. 362 00:15:17,578 --> 00:15:18,744 My cell phone's ringing. 363 00:15:18,746 --> 00:15:20,012 I pick up the cell phone. 364 00:15:20,014 --> 00:15:21,413 I'm not gonna tell you who it was. 365 00:15:21,415 --> 00:15:24,349 But it was a person in Republican opposition 366 00:15:24,351 --> 00:15:26,184 research for 30 years. 367 00:15:26,186 --> 00:15:27,753 They said, "Ant, you're in a lot of trouble." 368 00:15:27,755 --> 00:15:31,289 He had great verbal dexterity on BBC Newswatch, 369 00:15:31,291 --> 00:15:32,925 and they're now saying, my God, 370 00:15:32,927 --> 00:15:35,195 this guy might be able to have tea with the queen. 371 00:15:36,463 --> 00:15:38,463 And I've gotten four or five calls on you 372 00:15:38,465 --> 00:15:39,865 since you finished that interview, 373 00:15:39,867 --> 00:15:42,500 saying what do you got on this guy? 374 00:15:42,502 --> 00:15:44,102 They gotta find something on me. 375 00:15:44,104 --> 00:15:45,270 I sort of feel bad for them 376 00:15:45,272 --> 00:15:46,939 because they figured I'm Italian, 377 00:15:46,941 --> 00:15:48,473 and I got 28 years on Wall Street. 378 00:15:48,475 --> 00:15:50,208 I had to do something dishonest. 379 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:52,110 So they spent seven months ripping through 380 00:15:52,112 --> 00:15:53,846 my financial records and background. 381 00:15:53,848 --> 00:15:55,313 Couldn't find anything, 382 00:15:55,315 --> 00:15:57,049 so they got me on three curse words. 383 00:15:57,051 --> 00:15:58,617 Leak the thing and see if I can 384 00:15:58,619 --> 00:16:00,218 block these people 385 00:16:00,220 --> 00:16:02,520 the way I can Scaramucci for six months. 386 00:16:02,522 --> 00:16:04,189 They treated it like it was, 387 00:16:04,191 --> 00:16:06,692 I poured hot water on a newborn baby. 388 00:16:06,694 --> 00:16:11,131 We had had hundreds of TV networks and newspapers call us 389 00:16:12,366 --> 00:16:13,398 in the month before Megyn Kelly called. 390 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,467 And I refused all the interviews, 391 00:16:15,469 --> 00:16:16,869 because I knew that there was basically 392 00:16:16,871 --> 00:16:21,876 a bounty out to do a huge deceptive hit piece on myself. 393 00:16:22,643 --> 00:16:23,976 And so when I heard that Megyn Kelly 394 00:16:23,978 --> 00:16:25,077 was calling up my producer, 395 00:16:25,079 --> 00:16:26,344 being thickly sweet, saying, 396 00:16:26,346 --> 00:16:28,346 "Oh here's my cell phone number. 397 00:16:28,348 --> 00:16:30,148 "Please call me personally. 398 00:16:30,150 --> 00:16:32,584 "I'm really into Alex, he's really cool." 399 00:16:32,586 --> 00:16:34,754 That right there was a giant red flag. 400 00:16:34,756 --> 00:16:37,155 And as soon as I call her, boom. 401 00:16:38,026 --> 00:16:39,357 She wants to go out to dinner with me. 402 00:16:39,359 --> 00:16:40,425 She's obsessed with me. 403 00:16:40,427 --> 00:16:41,927 She things I'm really handsome. 404 00:16:41,929 --> 00:16:43,261 But she thinks men that have 405 00:16:43,263 --> 00:16:45,497 a little pot belly like me are sexy. 406 00:16:45,499 --> 00:16:47,667 That the best men look like me. 407 00:16:47,669 --> 00:16:49,101 These are exact things she said. 408 00:16:49,103 --> 00:16:50,535 So I got my other phone, 409 00:16:50,537 --> 00:16:52,738 and started recording it on speakerphone. 410 00:16:52,740 --> 00:16:54,439 You know, you just became 411 00:16:54,441 --> 00:16:55,573 very fascinating to me. 412 00:16:55,575 --> 00:16:57,712 I just sort of thought you were this maybe 413 00:16:59,179 --> 00:17:01,047 one-dimensional guy, like, this is your thing. 414 00:17:01,049 --> 00:17:03,348 She promised me that it wasn't a hit piece. 415 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:05,450 That she didn't even want to get into the subjects 416 00:17:05,452 --> 00:17:07,218 like Sandy Hook. 417 00:17:07,220 --> 00:17:09,021 It's not gonna be some gotcha hit piece. 418 00:17:09,023 --> 00:17:10,288 I promise you that. 419 00:17:10,290 --> 00:17:12,124 But of course, once she got here, 420 00:17:12,126 --> 00:17:14,794 she uncloaked herself. 421 00:17:14,796 --> 00:17:15,593 Sandy Hook. 422 00:17:15,595 --> 00:17:16,394 9-11. 423 00:17:16,396 --> 00:17:17,697 That's a dodge. 424 00:17:17,699 --> 00:17:19,397 And she would take pieces where 425 00:17:19,399 --> 00:17:22,968 I'd said one thing 20 minutes before, I love Satan. 426 00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:24,136 And edit that into something 427 00:17:24,138 --> 00:17:25,705 that was a completely other subject 428 00:17:25,707 --> 00:17:28,473 to make it sound like I was a stark raving 429 00:17:28,475 --> 00:17:31,409 babbling stuttering volleyball or something. 430 00:17:31,411 --> 00:17:32,477 It's just... 431 00:17:58,572 --> 00:18:00,773 So the media, and especially the fake news, 432 00:18:00,775 --> 00:18:04,143 can ruin lives fairly easily. 433 00:18:04,145 --> 00:18:07,512 I've had quite a bit of fake news lobbed at me. 434 00:18:09,449 --> 00:18:11,349 Well the fake news was that I had said 435 00:18:11,351 --> 00:18:13,318 negative things about women, 436 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,987 which if you saw them in context, 437 00:18:14,989 --> 00:18:16,989 you would understand that they weren't. 438 00:18:16,991 --> 00:18:19,759 But out of context, whoa, they sounded terrible. 439 00:18:19,761 --> 00:18:22,194 If I thought somebody actually thought 440 00:18:22,196 --> 00:18:24,529 the things that people said I thought, 441 00:18:24,531 --> 00:18:26,531 I would not like that person. 442 00:18:26,533 --> 00:18:28,299 And if you think somebody's evil, 443 00:18:28,301 --> 00:18:29,668 whatever comes out of their mouth 444 00:18:29,670 --> 00:18:30,970 is gonna sound pretty evil. 445 00:18:30,972 --> 00:18:33,839 And if you think that person is on your side, 446 00:18:33,841 --> 00:18:35,040 even if they say something 447 00:18:35,042 --> 00:18:36,709 that sounds a little bit evil, 448 00:18:36,711 --> 00:18:39,277 you're gonna say, ah, that's Bob. 449 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:40,311 He doesn't mean that. 450 00:18:40,313 --> 00:18:42,480 So we imagine we can see 451 00:18:42,482 --> 00:18:44,482 what's in the soul of other people. 452 00:18:44,484 --> 00:18:47,352 It's the most classic mistake you could make. 453 00:18:47,354 --> 00:18:49,521 You're not good at peering into souls. 454 00:18:49,523 --> 00:18:51,023 You just think you are. 455 00:18:51,025 --> 00:18:53,225 Everybody thinks they're good at it. 456 00:18:53,227 --> 00:18:54,226 Everybody's wrong. 457 00:18:54,228 --> 00:18:56,327 We're all terrible at it. 458 00:18:56,329 --> 00:18:58,798 And weirdly, we imagine that these normal people 459 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,566 who would be our friends in any other context 460 00:19:01,568 --> 00:19:04,569 are actually like monsters on the inside. 461 00:19:04,571 --> 00:19:06,672 And it's pretty rare that anybody's 462 00:19:06,674 --> 00:19:08,707 actually a monster on the inside. 463 00:19:13,380 --> 00:19:16,483 This is the spot where it was first seen. 464 00:19:18,653 --> 00:19:19,720 Where did it come from? 465 00:19:20,721 --> 00:19:21,521 What is it? 466 00:19:25,592 --> 00:19:27,559 They're bringing crime, they're rapists. 467 00:19:27,561 --> 00:19:29,697 You know, I know nothing about David Duke. 468 00:19:34,869 --> 00:19:36,534 It's the end of the world every day. 469 00:19:36,536 --> 00:19:39,104 24 hour Trump horror fest. 470 00:19:39,106 --> 00:19:40,538 He tweeted again, you know. 471 00:19:40,540 --> 00:19:42,274 Civilization is collapsing. 472 00:19:42,276 --> 00:19:43,408 Never in the history 473 00:19:43,410 --> 00:19:44,710 of the United States, 474 00:19:44,712 --> 00:19:47,545 a monster of such horrifying hatred of man. 475 00:19:49,616 --> 00:19:51,851 They claim that they can hear dog whistles. 476 00:19:51,853 --> 00:19:54,452 Secret messages embedded in the text. 477 00:19:54,454 --> 00:19:56,621 They have a special power for hearing what you said 478 00:19:56,623 --> 00:19:58,523 without you actually saying it. 479 00:19:58,525 --> 00:20:01,060 We can disagree with some or several 480 00:20:01,062 --> 00:20:02,427 of Trump's policies. 481 00:20:02,429 --> 00:20:04,562 I'm not here to talk about politics. 482 00:20:04,564 --> 00:20:06,732 I'm talking about what he said, 483 00:20:06,734 --> 00:20:08,767 and how it compares to what the media 484 00:20:08,769 --> 00:20:10,236 literally portrayed him as saying. 485 00:20:13,708 --> 00:20:16,942 When Donald Trump kicked off his presidential campaign 486 00:20:16,944 --> 00:20:19,144 at Trump Tower, he goes down the escalator 487 00:20:19,146 --> 00:20:21,613 and he gives a speech in which he says, 488 00:20:21,615 --> 00:20:23,716 "All Mexicans are rapists." 489 00:20:23,718 --> 00:20:25,751 This isn't just a general impression. 490 00:20:25,753 --> 00:20:29,387 I mean, this is something that was said repeatedly. 491 00:20:29,389 --> 00:20:32,291 On CNN, Time Magazine, CBS, 492 00:20:32,293 --> 00:20:34,927 Washington Post, Politico, Huffington Post. 493 00:20:34,929 --> 00:20:36,295 Repeatedly time and again, 494 00:20:36,297 --> 00:20:37,897 we find them literally saying that 495 00:20:37,899 --> 00:20:42,268 Donald Trump said Mexican immigrants are rapists. 496 00:20:42,270 --> 00:20:46,739 A horrifyingly disturbing, and grotesque thing to say. 497 00:20:46,741 --> 00:20:47,806 If Donald Trump said that, 498 00:20:47,808 --> 00:20:50,109 then absolutely he should drop out. 499 00:20:50,111 --> 00:20:52,344 The fact of course is that's not quite what he says. 500 00:20:52,346 --> 00:20:55,647 What he says is, "When Mexico sends people, 501 00:20:55,649 --> 00:20:56,982 "they're not sending their best. 502 00:20:56,984 --> 00:20:58,817 "They're sending people that have lots of problems. 503 00:20:58,819 --> 00:21:00,653 "They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crimes, 504 00:21:00,655 --> 00:21:03,421 "they're rapists, and some I assume are good people." 505 00:21:03,423 --> 00:21:07,660 And what he did say, you know, was graceless. 506 00:21:07,662 --> 00:21:09,662 It was inappropriate. 507 00:21:09,664 --> 00:21:12,364 But gosh, it wasn't, he didn't say 508 00:21:12,366 --> 00:21:13,799 that all Mexicans are rapists. 509 00:21:13,801 --> 00:21:15,034 That's just not what he said. 510 00:21:15,036 --> 00:21:17,435 He's complaining that somehow he thinks 511 00:21:17,437 --> 00:21:19,672 the Mexican government is sending 512 00:21:19,674 --> 00:21:22,640 people that have lots of problems. 513 00:21:22,642 --> 00:21:25,844 But the media fixated on two or three words. 514 00:21:25,846 --> 00:21:26,879 They are rapists. 515 00:21:26,881 --> 00:21:28,681 And decided that the noun there must be 516 00:21:28,683 --> 00:21:32,017 the worst possible interpretation, meaning all Mexicans. 517 00:21:32,019 --> 00:21:36,221 Every single Mexican, children, nuns, old people, 518 00:21:36,223 --> 00:21:37,823 all of them are rapists, 519 00:21:37,825 --> 00:21:39,858 and what a shame that Donald Trump said that. 520 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:41,794 And he explained himself repeatedly. 521 00:21:41,796 --> 00:21:44,997 He went around, praising Mexicans, in multiple states, 522 00:21:44,999 --> 00:21:46,564 again and again, saying they're good people, 523 00:21:46,566 --> 00:21:47,532 they're wonderful people. 524 00:21:47,534 --> 00:21:49,068 I want them to come in legally. 525 00:21:49,070 --> 00:21:50,402 The media never cared. 526 00:21:50,404 --> 00:21:52,338 What they cared about was this cartoon 527 00:21:52,340 --> 00:21:54,873 to not echo a stereotype. 528 00:21:54,875 --> 00:21:57,977 Create a stereotype that I had never even heard of 529 00:21:57,979 --> 00:21:59,878 that all Mexicans are rapists. 530 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,047 What's stunning about these stories, these memes, 531 00:22:02,049 --> 00:22:05,351 is that even despite they're being so incoherent, 532 00:22:05,353 --> 00:22:08,253 the media is able to just keep them going endlessly 533 00:22:08,255 --> 00:22:10,356 by systematically neglecting 534 00:22:10,358 --> 00:22:12,758 every shred of evidence against the story. 535 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,728 And reading between the lines with everything 536 00:22:15,730 --> 00:22:17,262 that seems a little off color. 537 00:22:21,936 --> 00:22:23,235 So here's another meme. 538 00:22:23,237 --> 00:22:24,903 During the campaign, 539 00:22:24,905 --> 00:22:27,840 Donald Trump called for the creation 540 00:22:27,842 --> 00:22:30,541 of a national database, a registry, 541 00:22:30,543 --> 00:22:32,911 that would track all Muslims in America. 542 00:22:32,913 --> 00:22:34,847 Every Muslim-American would have to be 543 00:22:34,849 --> 00:22:36,382 registered in this thing, 544 00:22:36,384 --> 00:22:39,351 carry a special ID, perhaps wear a badge. 545 00:22:39,353 --> 00:22:42,187 This was echoed in countless many media. 546 00:22:42,189 --> 00:22:43,122 It's totally false. 547 00:22:43,124 --> 00:22:44,423 It just didn't happen. 548 00:22:44,425 --> 00:22:46,859 The proposal wasn't created by Donald Trump. 549 00:22:46,861 --> 00:22:49,795 It was made by a Yahoo reporter. 550 00:22:49,797 --> 00:22:51,130 Do you think we might need 551 00:22:51,132 --> 00:22:52,865 to register Muslims in some type of database 552 00:22:52,867 --> 00:22:54,867 or note their religion on their ID? 553 00:22:54,869 --> 00:22:57,903 This is Hunter Walker, Yahoo News, 554 00:22:57,905 --> 00:22:59,271 asking this to Trump. 555 00:22:59,273 --> 00:23:00,571 And what did Trump do? 556 00:23:00,573 --> 00:23:02,908 He didn't answer the question directly. 557 00:23:02,910 --> 00:23:04,910 You know, he's just interested in sticking 558 00:23:04,912 --> 00:23:07,246 to his message and saying the things he wants to say. 559 00:23:07,248 --> 00:23:08,947 It's known as the artful dodge. 560 00:23:08,949 --> 00:23:10,249 I mean, this is something politicians 561 00:23:10,251 --> 00:23:11,984 have been doing since for decades. 562 00:23:11,986 --> 00:23:13,986 Well, we're gonna have to look 563 00:23:13,988 --> 00:23:15,988 at a lot of things very closely. 564 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:17,923 We're gonna have to look at the mosques. 565 00:23:17,925 --> 00:23:20,793 We're gonna have to look very, very carefully. 566 00:23:20,795 --> 00:23:23,162 He said look, he said carefully. 567 00:23:23,164 --> 00:23:24,763 Now when Walker reports this, 568 00:23:24,765 --> 00:23:26,398 what he says that Trump says, 569 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,436 he says, "He wouldn't rule it out." 570 00:23:30,438 --> 00:23:33,238 Then it becomes, "He calls for the creation 571 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,506 "of a national database." 572 00:23:34,508 --> 00:23:36,842 And this expression shows up on CNN. 573 00:23:36,844 --> 00:23:39,144 It shows up on the cover of New York Times. 574 00:23:39,146 --> 00:23:40,913 The fascinating thing is how they seem 575 00:23:40,915 --> 00:23:42,781 to play a game of telephone. 576 00:23:42,783 --> 00:23:45,818 Of taking not just what Trump says and twisting it, 577 00:23:45,820 --> 00:23:47,820 but they'll take what each other of them say 578 00:23:47,822 --> 00:23:49,855 that Trump said and they'll add details, 579 00:23:49,857 --> 00:23:51,156 and Donald Trump again and again 580 00:23:51,158 --> 00:23:52,925 says I didn't say that, that's false. 581 00:23:52,927 --> 00:23:53,959 This is ridiculous. 582 00:23:53,961 --> 00:23:56,161 I didn't start it, a reporter suggested it. 583 00:23:56,163 --> 00:23:58,430 Did they apologize? 584 00:23:58,432 --> 00:24:00,466 Did they at any point say, "You know what? 585 00:24:00,468 --> 00:24:03,202 "We want to go back over some of these stories we said, 586 00:24:03,204 --> 00:24:07,172 "whether they're about religion or Mexicans, or you know." 587 00:24:07,174 --> 00:24:08,841 Let's do a tally of how many of these things 588 00:24:08,843 --> 00:24:10,608 we kind of twisted out of proportion. 589 00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:12,377 No, they're more interested in 590 00:24:12,379 --> 00:24:16,215 people tripping up on words rather than events. 591 00:24:16,217 --> 00:24:17,983 All kinds of things happen in the world. 592 00:24:17,985 --> 00:24:19,785 Alarming important urgent things. 593 00:24:19,787 --> 00:24:21,220 People die, people are dying. 594 00:24:21,222 --> 00:24:23,822 Serious things are happening and instead, 595 00:24:23,824 --> 00:24:25,457 the sad state of the media is 596 00:24:25,459 --> 00:24:26,658 what are they obsessed with? 597 00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:28,327 What is their number one concern? 598 00:24:28,329 --> 00:24:29,661 It's Twitter. 599 00:24:29,663 --> 00:24:32,064 I'm fascinated that the media is obsessed 600 00:24:32,066 --> 00:24:33,966 with whatever little white lie 601 00:24:33,968 --> 00:24:36,003 they think that I told on Twitter. 602 00:24:36,904 --> 00:24:39,071 How many people are dying because of 603 00:24:39,073 --> 00:24:41,073 whatever they view as being untrue, 604 00:24:41,075 --> 00:24:42,508 as being said by me? 605 00:24:42,510 --> 00:24:44,076 Now let's compare body counts. 606 00:24:44,078 --> 00:24:46,845 I'll gladly compare. 607 00:24:46,847 --> 00:24:49,982 They would have to frame me for body counts and shootings. 608 00:24:49,984 --> 00:24:52,017 As they did with the Pizzagate thing. 609 00:24:52,019 --> 00:24:53,252 I don't have to frame them. 610 00:24:53,254 --> 00:24:55,521 I just have to talk about what they've done. 611 00:25:02,163 --> 00:25:04,265 I measure things in terms of head count. 612 00:25:05,866 --> 00:25:08,235 The biggest head count of fake news is communism as a whole. 613 00:25:10,938 --> 00:25:15,541 Reasonable estimates are close to 100 million dead 614 00:25:15,543 --> 00:25:18,612 just in the 20th Century from Communism alone. 615 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,215 There are a brutal number of fake news stories 616 00:25:23,217 --> 00:25:26,752 covering up the hideous nature of Communism, 617 00:25:26,754 --> 00:25:30,255 and given that the facts are so easily available, 618 00:25:30,257 --> 00:25:32,925 given that the data is so easily available, 619 00:25:32,927 --> 00:25:35,894 I really do more than question. 620 00:25:35,896 --> 00:25:38,764 I have nothing but bottomless contempt 621 00:25:38,766 --> 00:25:40,232 for the people who covered this stuff up. 622 00:25:40,234 --> 00:25:42,234 Because they are aiding abetting 623 00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:44,738 some of the greatest genocides in human history. 624 00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:47,739 And we know that Walter Duranty of the New York Times, 625 00:25:47,741 --> 00:25:48,974 well he got a Pulitzer 626 00:25:48,976 --> 00:25:51,877 for his reporting on the Potemkin villages under Stalin. 627 00:25:51,879 --> 00:25:52,911 When he was toured around, and oh, 628 00:25:52,913 --> 00:25:54,313 look at these fat happy workers. 629 00:25:54,315 --> 00:25:56,882 And they were just taken out of the gulags, 630 00:25:56,884 --> 00:25:58,116 stuffed full of chicken, 631 00:25:58,118 --> 00:26:00,485 and thrown in front of his eyeballs. 632 00:26:04,659 --> 00:26:06,124 At the Holodomor. 633 00:26:06,126 --> 00:26:09,094 One of the unbelievable brutal and overlooked 634 00:26:09,096 --> 00:26:11,263 genocides in many ways. 635 00:26:11,265 --> 00:26:14,766 So, this is typically the way that it works. 636 00:26:14,768 --> 00:26:15,767 In a free market, 637 00:26:15,769 --> 00:26:16,935 resources tend to accrue 638 00:26:16,937 --> 00:26:18,971 to the people who are the most competent. 639 00:26:18,973 --> 00:26:20,639 And that's better for everyone. 640 00:26:20,641 --> 00:26:22,307 Because you want to have enough to eat. 641 00:26:22,309 --> 00:26:25,177 So you want the land to end up 642 00:26:25,179 --> 00:26:27,479 under the control of the most productive people. 643 00:26:27,481 --> 00:26:29,481 But the Communists come along and say, 644 00:26:29,483 --> 00:26:31,083 okay, you're working for this guy, 645 00:26:31,085 --> 00:26:32,851 not 'cause he's smarter or works harder 646 00:26:32,853 --> 00:26:35,587 or takes more risks or studies more, 647 00:26:35,589 --> 00:26:37,990 but because he's exploited you. 648 00:26:37,992 --> 00:26:39,625 He has stolen from you, 649 00:26:39,627 --> 00:26:41,827 and we're gonna get back what is yours. 650 00:26:41,829 --> 00:26:43,028 We're gonna get back that land, 651 00:26:43,030 --> 00:26:45,097 and we're gonna split it up among you. 652 00:26:45,099 --> 00:26:46,965 So what they did was they went into the Ukraine, 653 00:26:46,967 --> 00:26:49,101 which was formerly called the bread basket of Europe. 654 00:26:49,103 --> 00:26:51,136 The soil is so rich. 655 00:26:51,138 --> 00:26:53,171 I mean, it's just astonishing. 656 00:26:53,173 --> 00:26:54,707 And what they did was they took the land 657 00:26:54,709 --> 00:26:56,642 from the most productive people called the bourgeois. 658 00:26:56,644 --> 00:26:58,443 the cu lacks, the most productive farmers, 659 00:26:58,445 --> 00:27:01,146 and then they shot or imprisoned 660 00:27:01,148 --> 00:27:02,682 or drove off those farmers. 661 00:27:02,684 --> 00:27:04,883 The starvation that resulted, 662 00:27:04,885 --> 00:27:07,021 I mean, unbelievably horrifying stuff. 663 00:27:21,302 --> 00:27:22,669 This was all covered up. 664 00:27:22,671 --> 00:27:23,869 The reports were coming out. 665 00:27:23,871 --> 00:27:24,836 Just the reports were coming out 666 00:27:24,838 --> 00:27:25,837 about the Holocaust. 667 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:27,039 The reports were coming out, 668 00:27:27,041 --> 00:27:28,407 but they did not examine it 669 00:27:28,409 --> 00:27:29,709 as much as they should have, 670 00:27:29,711 --> 00:27:30,642 and millions of millions of people 671 00:27:30,644 --> 00:27:32,844 starved to death as a result. 672 00:27:32,846 --> 00:27:35,682 And that helped stretch out the Communist regime 673 00:27:35,684 --> 00:27:37,750 for another couple of decades, 674 00:27:37,752 --> 00:27:40,385 and it helped to spread the Communist regime 675 00:27:40,387 --> 00:27:42,087 to other places in the world. 676 00:27:42,089 --> 00:27:44,657 North Korea, Cambodia, China. 677 00:27:44,659 --> 00:27:46,191 You know, there was a time when 678 00:27:46,193 --> 00:27:48,994 a third of the planet was under Communist dictatorship. 679 00:27:48,996 --> 00:27:51,196 That had a lot to do with the intellectuals 680 00:27:51,198 --> 00:27:54,701 who came across and spewed the propaganda they were fed. 681 00:27:54,703 --> 00:27:56,201 And they were happy to do it because 682 00:27:56,203 --> 00:27:58,036 they wanted to save the system, 683 00:27:58,038 --> 00:28:00,740 not deal with the facts. 684 00:28:05,245 --> 00:28:06,578 There are still people out there 685 00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:08,180 with Karl Marx buttons. 686 00:28:08,182 --> 00:28:09,548 You know, you try wearing a Hitler button. 687 00:28:09,550 --> 00:28:11,350 Hitler's head count was far lower than Communism. 688 00:28:11,352 --> 00:28:13,051 You go out there with a Karl Marx button, 689 00:28:13,053 --> 00:28:15,253 and people are like, oh that's edgy. 690 00:28:15,255 --> 00:28:18,023 Or you know, Che Guevara T shirt. 691 00:28:18,025 --> 00:28:23,030 And this proselytizing and pumping up of Communism 692 00:28:24,198 --> 00:28:25,197 that happens, and we've seen this recently. 693 00:28:25,199 --> 00:28:27,532 Women had better sex lives in Soviet Russia. 694 00:28:27,534 --> 00:28:29,634 I mean, like okay, so sure. 695 00:28:29,636 --> 00:28:31,069 It's 100 million death count, 696 00:28:31,071 --> 00:28:33,105 but at least I get a toe-clenching orgasm out of it. 697 00:28:33,107 --> 00:28:36,274 It's like, that's horrifying, and horrible. 698 00:28:36,276 --> 00:28:38,076 Kind of weighing in the balance. 699 00:28:38,078 --> 00:28:41,146 The fact that North Korea started as Communist state 700 00:28:41,148 --> 00:28:43,048 is very much overlooked. 701 00:28:43,050 --> 00:28:45,050 They had put these Potemkin villages out there 702 00:28:45,052 --> 00:28:46,284 in North Korea as well, 703 00:28:46,286 --> 00:28:48,086 where you've got these happy peasants 704 00:28:48,088 --> 00:28:49,454 who you see smiling and so on 705 00:28:49,456 --> 00:28:51,089 because they get shot if the don't. 706 00:28:51,091 --> 00:28:54,426 We traveled about four hours east of Pyongyang 707 00:28:54,428 --> 00:28:56,161 to visit a ski resort. 708 00:28:56,163 --> 00:28:58,397 We were also invited here, I would suspect, 709 00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:01,500 because it is not what people expect to see 710 00:29:01,502 --> 00:29:02,802 in North Korea. 711 00:29:02,804 --> 00:29:05,237 A modern ski resort. 712 00:29:05,239 --> 00:29:07,673 It's got patriotic music and videos 713 00:29:07,675 --> 00:29:08,974 playing from a screen here, 714 00:29:08,976 --> 00:29:11,311 and a lot of families out enjoying themselves. 715 00:29:12,747 --> 00:29:15,080 And the reason why it's so sinister, 716 00:29:15,082 --> 00:29:16,849 which you've talked about before, Mike, 717 00:29:16,851 --> 00:29:18,252 is that they want us dead. 718 00:29:19,153 --> 00:29:21,854 If you openly cover up for a regime, 719 00:29:21,856 --> 00:29:23,288 that the first people targeted 720 00:29:23,290 --> 00:29:24,956 are people like you and me. 721 00:29:24,958 --> 00:29:28,260 I can't view this as a merely ideological dispute. 722 00:29:28,262 --> 00:29:31,697 This is not an academic difference in opinion, 723 00:29:31,699 --> 00:29:35,167 because if the system that they want gets in power, 724 00:29:35,169 --> 00:29:37,670 myself, my friends, my family, everything, 725 00:29:37,672 --> 00:29:39,306 will be the first to go. 726 00:29:42,543 --> 00:29:43,942 Read all about it. 727 00:29:43,944 --> 00:29:45,145 Latest football scores. 728 00:29:46,447 --> 00:29:48,613 Morning paper, morning star. 729 00:29:48,615 --> 00:29:49,882 Paper, mister? 730 00:29:49,884 --> 00:29:52,284 Your daily newspaper. 731 00:29:52,286 --> 00:29:54,286 Well, this is familiar. 732 00:29:54,288 --> 00:29:56,123 Most of us read a paper every day. 733 00:29:57,324 --> 00:30:00,459 The golden age of American journalism in the 50s 734 00:30:00,461 --> 00:30:02,797 is sort of a myth. 735 00:30:04,965 --> 00:30:09,336 Perpetuated by Hollywood and maybe journalists themselves, 736 00:30:10,872 --> 00:30:12,571 but it was golden in some ways. 737 00:30:12,573 --> 00:30:16,074 They were hard hitting reporters out investigating, 738 00:30:16,076 --> 00:30:18,343 trying to break big stories. 739 00:30:18,345 --> 00:30:22,214 And that image of a disheveled reporter 740 00:30:22,216 --> 00:30:25,317 who wants to get the story no matter what, 741 00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:28,253 in some way, is representative of reality. 742 00:30:28,255 --> 00:30:30,388 They did publish hard hitting stories. 743 00:30:30,390 --> 00:30:35,362 And print was king 'cause TV was just baby stages. 744 00:30:36,396 --> 00:30:39,030 And there was a norm of objectivity then. 745 00:30:39,032 --> 00:30:43,001 Editorial stayed on the editorial pages, very much. 746 00:30:43,003 --> 00:30:47,038 And the news tended to be very balanced, 747 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,708 and very fact-driven. 748 00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:50,175 The editorial writer must be able 749 00:30:50,177 --> 00:30:52,110 to write on many subjects. 750 00:30:52,112 --> 00:30:54,045 But instead of merely reporting news, 751 00:30:54,047 --> 00:30:56,749 he analyzes it and explains its meaning, 752 00:30:56,751 --> 00:30:59,284 often expressing his personal opinions. 753 00:30:59,286 --> 00:31:02,120 He must reason accurately and fairly, 754 00:31:02,122 --> 00:31:04,089 and write in an interesting manner. 755 00:31:04,091 --> 00:31:06,893 There was also a different culture at the time 756 00:31:06,895 --> 00:31:10,395 which was that objective truth does exist. 757 00:31:10,397 --> 00:31:12,732 And that there are consequences for lying 758 00:31:12,734 --> 00:31:15,100 and doing this in the afterlife. 759 00:31:15,102 --> 00:31:20,107 Journalists, whether they were practicing Christians or not, 760 00:31:20,942 --> 00:31:22,407 brought in this American ethic, 761 00:31:22,409 --> 00:31:26,812 which included God, absolute truth, 762 00:31:26,814 --> 00:31:29,782 also this idea that yes, there are objective facts 763 00:31:29,784 --> 00:31:32,417 that we can find and report. 764 00:31:32,419 --> 00:31:35,086 To be successful today, 765 00:31:35,088 --> 00:31:37,558 a newspaper must contain all the elements 766 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,827 of the best journalism to fill the needs 767 00:31:41,829 --> 00:31:43,463 of modern newspaper readers. 768 00:31:44,766 --> 00:31:48,968 But beyond that, it must inspire complete confidence 769 00:31:48,970 --> 00:31:50,335 in its integrity. 770 00:31:50,337 --> 00:31:53,505 One of the key bits of information 771 00:31:53,507 --> 00:31:55,607 is a study that I did 772 00:31:55,609 --> 00:31:58,678 that fits right into the golden age of journalism 773 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,279 that looks at American newspaper editorials 774 00:32:01,281 --> 00:32:04,282 from 1958 to 1970. 775 00:32:04,284 --> 00:32:05,651 And so starting in 58, 776 00:32:05,653 --> 00:32:08,520 I found that all of these papers 777 00:32:08,522 --> 00:32:10,825 leaned a little bit to the right. 778 00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:13,594 Surprise. 779 00:32:15,128 --> 00:32:16,762 But between 58 and 70, 780 00:32:16,764 --> 00:32:21,769 there was a dramatic shift to the left, much more so. 781 00:32:22,937 --> 00:32:25,705 And I mean, it is almost a straight line 782 00:32:25,707 --> 00:32:28,306 and showed no signs of changing. 783 00:32:28,308 --> 00:32:33,313 And informally, I looked at some contemporary 784 00:32:33,982 --> 00:32:35,347 editorials the same way 785 00:32:35,349 --> 00:32:37,284 from some of those major papers. 786 00:32:38,352 --> 00:32:40,518 And found them up there. 787 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,489 And so we see this shift during that time in the 60s 788 00:32:44,491 --> 00:32:48,360 to a much more liberal orientation. 789 00:32:48,362 --> 00:32:52,297 Additionally, the way the editorials were crafted changed, 790 00:32:52,299 --> 00:32:54,366 which I think reflects a change 791 00:32:54,368 --> 00:32:57,638 in the news culture and the culture of the country. 792 00:32:59,506 --> 00:33:01,373 In the late 50s, we found, 793 00:33:01,375 --> 00:33:03,375 even if they leaned one way, 794 00:33:03,377 --> 00:33:05,377 or supported one policy, 795 00:33:05,379 --> 00:33:10,384 they still offered a healthy clash of those issues. 796 00:33:11,585 --> 00:33:13,485 And so you kind of got both sides. 797 00:33:13,487 --> 00:33:16,323 And you had room to disagree. 798 00:33:17,357 --> 00:33:22,362 As we progress further to 1970, that stops, 799 00:33:23,831 --> 00:33:28,335 and it becomes more polemic and less an argument. 800 00:33:31,605 --> 00:33:36,508 I think one of the main considerations for that change 801 00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,412 was the cultural revolution. 802 00:33:42,416 --> 00:33:45,084 We start to see a new generation 803 00:33:45,086 --> 00:33:46,919 coming into power. 804 00:33:46,921 --> 00:33:50,290 And we now have the creation of a liberal environment. 805 00:33:51,625 --> 00:33:56,128 And let's not forget some of the formative documents 806 00:33:56,130 --> 00:33:58,630 that came out of Students for a Democratic Society 807 00:33:58,632 --> 00:34:00,966 in the early 60s. 808 00:34:00,968 --> 00:34:03,936 And they quite clearly stated that 809 00:34:03,938 --> 00:34:06,772 student progressives needed to move in 810 00:34:06,774 --> 00:34:10,208 to the major institutions of this country 811 00:34:10,210 --> 00:34:12,277 to affect change. 812 00:34:12,279 --> 00:34:13,645 We're gonna be in the streets 813 00:34:13,647 --> 00:34:15,748 and in every institution in this country from now on. 814 00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:17,582 The media, the news media, 815 00:34:17,584 --> 00:34:20,585 was one of those institutions that was targeted. 816 00:34:20,587 --> 00:34:22,755 We're gonna replace capitalism with socialism. 817 00:34:22,757 --> 00:34:27,592 There was also some dissatisfaction 818 00:34:27,594 --> 00:34:30,562 with the federal government in terms of 819 00:34:30,564 --> 00:34:32,164 its forthrightness with what was 820 00:34:32,166 --> 00:34:34,599 going on in Vietnam. 821 00:34:34,601 --> 00:34:37,569 As trust was lost, 822 00:34:37,571 --> 00:34:39,637 there was more willingness to oppose. 823 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,474 So it was many factors engaging. 824 00:34:42,476 --> 00:34:45,445 And now it's gone all the way now. 825 00:34:46,613 --> 00:34:48,848 For we are opposed around the world 826 00:34:48,850 --> 00:34:52,450 by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy 827 00:34:52,452 --> 00:34:55,520 that relies primarily on covet means. 828 00:34:55,522 --> 00:34:58,090 For expanding its sphere of influence. 829 00:34:58,092 --> 00:35:00,525 We have been compelled to create a permanent 830 00:35:00,527 --> 00:35:03,361 ominous industry of vast proportions. 831 00:35:03,363 --> 00:35:06,297 It is a system which has conscripted 832 00:35:06,299 --> 00:35:09,334 vast human and material resources 833 00:35:09,336 --> 00:35:11,603 into the building of a tightly knit, 834 00:35:11,605 --> 00:35:13,773 highly efficient machine 835 00:35:13,775 --> 00:35:17,042 that combines military, diplomatic, 836 00:35:17,044 --> 00:35:20,179 intelligence, economic, scientific, 837 00:35:20,181 --> 00:35:21,680 and political operations. 838 00:35:21,682 --> 00:35:24,216 We must guard against the acquisition 839 00:35:24,218 --> 00:35:25,885 of unwarranted influence, 840 00:35:25,887 --> 00:35:27,820 whether sought or unsought, 841 00:35:27,822 --> 00:35:31,056 by the military industrial complex. 842 00:35:31,058 --> 00:35:34,626 Its preparations are concealed, not published. 843 00:35:34,628 --> 00:35:37,730 Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. 844 00:35:37,732 --> 00:35:41,133 Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. 845 00:35:41,135 --> 00:35:44,369 Only an alert and knowledgeable citizen 846 00:35:44,371 --> 00:35:46,705 can compel the proper meshing 847 00:35:46,707 --> 00:35:48,874 of the huge industrial and military 848 00:35:48,876 --> 00:35:50,676 machinery of defense, 849 00:35:50,678 --> 00:35:53,344 with our peaceful methods and goals. 850 00:35:53,346 --> 00:35:55,748 And so it is to the printing press, 851 00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:58,250 to the recorder of man's deeds, 852 00:35:58,252 --> 00:36:01,720 that we look for strength and assistance. 853 00:36:01,722 --> 00:36:04,023 Confident that with your help, 854 00:36:04,025 --> 00:36:07,059 man will be what he was born to be, 855 00:36:07,061 --> 00:36:08,229 free and independent. 856 00:36:17,504 --> 00:36:22,373 I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns. 857 00:36:22,375 --> 00:36:24,578 They took the babies out of the incubators. 858 00:36:28,049 --> 00:36:30,381 Took the incubators, and left the children 859 00:36:30,383 --> 00:36:32,218 to die on the cold floor. 860 00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:33,886 Babies pulled from incubators 861 00:36:33,888 --> 00:36:36,691 and scattered like firewood across the floor. 862 00:36:37,624 --> 00:36:39,390 And they were thrown out of the incubators 863 00:36:39,392 --> 00:36:43,561 so that Kuwait could be systematically dismantled. 864 00:36:43,563 --> 00:36:44,697 It was horrifying. 865 00:36:44,699 --> 00:36:47,632 This war may be beginning right now. 866 00:36:47,634 --> 00:36:50,970 Two hours ago, allied air forces began an attack 867 00:36:50,972 --> 00:36:53,873 on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait. 868 00:36:53,875 --> 00:36:55,475 The inevitable has happened. 869 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,446 A woman testified before Congress 870 00:37:01,448 --> 00:37:04,116 that Iraqi soldiers had gone into the nursery 871 00:37:04,118 --> 00:37:05,751 of a Kuwaiti hospital, 872 00:37:05,753 --> 00:37:07,086 and they were taking babies, 873 00:37:07,088 --> 00:37:08,787 and lifting them out of the incubators, 874 00:37:08,789 --> 00:37:11,589 and throwing them onto the ground and smashing them. 875 00:37:11,591 --> 00:37:13,292 This is a horrific visual. 876 00:37:13,294 --> 00:37:15,393 And public sentiment was against 877 00:37:15,395 --> 00:37:17,629 the first war in Iraq, 878 00:37:17,631 --> 00:37:20,099 until that very important testimony 879 00:37:20,101 --> 00:37:22,469 was spread far and wide. 880 00:37:23,771 --> 00:37:24,803 Well as it turns out, 881 00:37:24,805 --> 00:37:26,906 she was actually the daughter 882 00:37:26,908 --> 00:37:28,674 of one of the crown prince's of Kuwait. 883 00:37:28,676 --> 00:37:30,642 It's a completely fabricated story 884 00:37:30,644 --> 00:37:33,511 that had been orchestrated by a major PR firm. 885 00:37:33,513 --> 00:37:35,480 They had spent millions of dollars on it, 886 00:37:35,482 --> 00:37:37,349 and it was completely fake. 887 00:37:37,351 --> 00:37:39,752 But the media would incredulously spread that. 888 00:37:39,754 --> 00:37:44,759 They give amplification to a message that they like. 889 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,293 And then if that message turns out to be false, 890 00:37:47,295 --> 00:37:49,662 they say, well all we do is report the news. 891 00:37:49,664 --> 00:37:51,429 Even though you chose to report that, though. 892 00:37:51,431 --> 00:37:52,865 You chose to amplify that. 893 00:37:52,867 --> 00:37:57,038 You chose to splice that clip and air it non-stop. 894 00:37:58,806 --> 00:38:02,343 Fool me once, shame on, 895 00:38:04,312 --> 00:38:05,443 shame on you. 896 00:38:05,445 --> 00:38:06,845 Every statement I make today 897 00:38:06,847 --> 00:38:08,380 is backed up by sources. 898 00:38:08,382 --> 00:38:09,848 Solid sources. 899 00:38:09,850 --> 00:38:11,850 Fool me, you can't get fooled again. 900 00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:19,358 So the second war in Iraq was also based on a lie 901 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,727 propagated by the New York Times. 902 00:38:21,729 --> 00:38:23,329 Iraq has made several attempts 903 00:38:23,331 --> 00:38:25,331 to buy high strength aluminum tubes 904 00:38:25,333 --> 00:38:28,233 used to enrich uranium for a nuclear weapon. 905 00:38:28,235 --> 00:38:30,135 The kinds of tubes that are necessary 906 00:38:30,137 --> 00:38:31,737 to build a centrifuge. 907 00:38:31,739 --> 00:38:33,538 First of all, the New York Times was not alone. 908 00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:35,975 Almost every paper in the country 909 00:38:35,977 --> 00:38:38,243 was reporting this, and network. 910 00:38:38,245 --> 00:38:39,878 There was a consensus. 911 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,513 I think what I did wrong was 912 00:38:42,515 --> 00:38:45,150 I wasn't permitted by my paper to go back 913 00:38:45,152 --> 00:38:48,087 and look at those stories when we had more information. 914 00:38:48,089 --> 00:38:50,656 One person might say, Cernovich, you're wrong. 915 00:38:50,658 --> 00:38:52,891 All the media did was report on information 916 00:38:52,893 --> 00:38:54,860 given to them by the government. 917 00:38:54,862 --> 00:38:57,062 And I would say, well that's fascinating. 918 00:38:57,064 --> 00:38:59,765 You must think that I don't have a very good memory, 919 00:38:59,767 --> 00:39:02,500 because when I read Twitter today, 920 00:39:02,502 --> 00:39:03,702 and I read a paper today, 921 00:39:03,704 --> 00:39:05,871 they say you can't trust Trump. 922 00:39:05,873 --> 00:39:07,072 He's such a liar. 923 00:39:07,074 --> 00:39:08,707 You can't trust the government. 924 00:39:08,709 --> 00:39:11,377 Our job as journalists is to fight against the government. 925 00:39:11,379 --> 00:39:12,711 I see that every day. 926 00:39:12,713 --> 00:39:14,579 But if there's a war, 927 00:39:14,581 --> 00:39:16,115 we just accept everything as true. 928 00:39:16,117 --> 00:39:18,616 And it is our duty as loyal Americans 929 00:39:18,618 --> 00:39:21,120 to shut up once the fighting begins. 930 00:39:22,589 --> 00:39:25,758 We entered the 50th anniversary of the Vietnam war. 931 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,625 My fellow Americans. 932 00:39:27,627 --> 00:39:28,927 The Gulf of Tonkin incident 933 00:39:28,929 --> 00:39:31,463 was the basis for the War in Vietnam, 934 00:39:31,465 --> 00:39:34,967 which cost between 50 and 75,000 American lives. 935 00:39:34,969 --> 00:39:36,869 Many peoples lives were ruined. 936 00:39:36,871 --> 00:39:38,971 Mental illnesses, PTSD. 937 00:39:38,973 --> 00:39:41,740 Well that was another lie. 938 00:39:41,742 --> 00:39:44,243 Let's look at, we got three big wars in America. 939 00:39:44,245 --> 00:39:45,911 You see a lot of lies. 940 00:39:45,913 --> 00:39:47,880 So where is the soul searching 941 00:39:47,882 --> 00:39:49,915 by these large mainstream outlets? 942 00:39:49,917 --> 00:39:50,985 I would like to see that. 943 00:39:54,855 --> 00:39:55,988 If you look at the mainstream media, 944 00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:57,890 they are in lock stead with either 945 00:39:57,892 --> 00:39:59,758 the Pentagon or the State Department. 946 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,627 Or officials that clearly do have an agenda. 947 00:40:02,629 --> 00:40:04,763 It's a self sustaining relationship. 948 00:40:04,765 --> 00:40:06,765 Any empire, any corporation, 949 00:40:06,767 --> 00:40:08,801 any person knows that the only thing 950 00:40:08,803 --> 00:40:11,072 that could ever take them down is the truth. 951 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,345 Do you have any people being paid 952 00:40:19,346 --> 00:40:24,351 by the CIA who are contributing 953 00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:29,855 to a major circulation, American Journal? 954 00:40:29,857 --> 00:40:32,157 We do have people who submit pieces 955 00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:34,128 to American Journal. 956 00:40:35,429 --> 00:40:38,430 Fake corporate news media is nothing new. 957 00:40:38,432 --> 00:40:39,965 It's just more financed today. 958 00:40:39,967 --> 00:40:41,767 A lot bigger, a lot slicker. 959 00:40:41,769 --> 00:40:44,803 Back in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, 960 00:40:44,805 --> 00:40:46,705 there was Project Mockingbird 961 00:40:46,707 --> 00:40:49,341 that Senator Frank Church's committee exposed. 962 00:40:49,343 --> 00:40:51,176 Where the CIA and other agencies 963 00:40:51,178 --> 00:40:53,712 had key people throughout positions 964 00:40:53,714 --> 00:40:56,949 in the mainstream media to put out fake news, 965 00:40:56,951 --> 00:40:59,785 or to kill stories when they needed it done. 966 00:40:59,787 --> 00:41:03,989 They infiltrated high ranking media organizations 967 00:41:03,991 --> 00:41:05,623 all around the United States. 968 00:41:05,625 --> 00:41:07,993 And were working not only with them, 969 00:41:07,995 --> 00:41:11,130 but reporting as if they were neutral journalists. 970 00:41:11,132 --> 00:41:13,966 When they were pushing an agenda. 971 00:41:13,968 --> 00:41:15,033 The planted story is intended 972 00:41:15,035 --> 00:41:17,238 to serve a national purpose abroad, 973 00:41:18,472 --> 00:41:23,344 came home and were circulated here, 974 00:41:24,011 --> 00:41:25,310 and believed here. 975 00:41:25,312 --> 00:41:27,079 Operation Mockingbird should make everyone 976 00:41:27,081 --> 00:41:31,049 think twice about the news and information 977 00:41:31,051 --> 00:41:32,050 and where it comes from, 978 00:41:32,052 --> 00:41:34,653 and how it could be weaponized against you, 979 00:41:34,655 --> 00:41:36,155 which I think is happening right now 980 00:41:36,157 --> 00:41:38,023 at a very severe level. 981 00:41:38,025 --> 00:41:40,726 And now, we have Jeff Bezos, 982 00:41:40,728 --> 00:41:42,661 one of the richest men in the world, 983 00:41:42,663 --> 00:41:45,264 close to 100 billion dollars in wealth, 984 00:41:45,266 --> 00:41:48,033 with his oligopoly Amazon, 985 00:41:48,035 --> 00:41:52,604 getting 600 million dollar contract from the CIA 986 00:41:52,606 --> 00:41:56,074 to house their servers while he uses 987 00:41:56,076 --> 00:41:58,577 the Washington Post that he owns 988 00:41:58,579 --> 00:42:02,014 as a warfare machine against President Trump 989 00:42:02,016 --> 00:42:03,582 and the American people. 990 00:42:03,584 --> 00:42:06,351 I was supported by the Central Intelligence Agency, 991 00:42:06,353 --> 00:42:07,886 by the CIA. 992 00:42:07,888 --> 00:42:10,055 This one great German journalist came out and said, 993 00:42:10,057 --> 00:42:11,857 yeah, the CIA wrote headlines for me. 994 00:42:11,859 --> 00:42:13,058 They told me what to say. 995 00:42:13,060 --> 00:42:15,027 There's many countries where this happens. 996 00:42:15,029 --> 00:42:19,097 Where you find people to claim 997 00:42:19,099 --> 00:42:21,133 they are respected journalists, 998 00:42:21,135 --> 00:42:22,801 but if you look behind them, 999 00:42:22,803 --> 00:42:25,804 you'll find they are puppets on a string 1000 00:42:25,806 --> 00:42:28,040 of the Central Intelligence Agency. 1001 00:42:28,042 --> 00:42:30,809 Obama signed a Ministry of Truth into action 1002 00:42:30,811 --> 00:42:34,479 before he left, to use US intelligence agencies 1003 00:42:34,481 --> 00:42:35,981 against the American people. 1004 00:42:35,983 --> 00:42:37,482 Now critics argue the act allows 1005 00:42:37,484 --> 00:42:40,786 the US government to censor some news as propaganda, 1006 00:42:40,788 --> 00:42:42,921 and push government agenda, in other words, 1007 00:42:42,923 --> 00:42:45,624 government propaganda, on the US citizens, 1008 00:42:45,626 --> 00:42:47,793 usually by way of labeling inconvenient 1009 00:42:47,795 --> 00:42:49,895 stories as fake news. 1010 00:42:49,897 --> 00:42:51,664 Propaganda is now legal. 1011 00:42:51,666 --> 00:42:53,465 Yes, legal, not illegal. 1012 00:42:53,467 --> 00:42:55,434 It used to be illegal, 1013 00:42:55,436 --> 00:42:59,137 according to a 1940 law, Smith, Month, Act, 1014 00:42:59,139 --> 00:43:00,172 something like that. 1015 00:43:00,174 --> 00:43:01,340 Because three years ago, 1016 00:43:01,342 --> 00:43:03,344 wrapped inside the 2013 NDAA 1017 00:43:04,612 --> 00:43:06,478 was an amendment that removed the ban 1018 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,080 on the US government, 1019 00:43:08,082 --> 00:43:11,083 creating propaganda, and then showing it to US citizens. 1020 00:43:11,085 --> 00:43:13,118 A lot of people who claim that they're journalists, 1021 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,286 they're just repeaters. 1022 00:43:14,288 --> 00:43:15,520 They get a press release, 1023 00:43:15,522 --> 00:43:17,155 and they just rewrite the press release. 1024 00:43:17,157 --> 00:43:19,157 I was actually able to uncover something 1025 00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:24,162 that really made me feel defrauded as a journalist. 1026 00:43:24,164 --> 00:43:26,666 Not only our sources, we found out that Bahrain 1027 00:43:26,668 --> 00:43:29,034 is a paying customer at CNN. 1028 00:43:29,036 --> 00:43:32,004 They've also produced similar content for Georgia, 1029 00:43:32,006 --> 00:43:35,007 Kazakhstan, and other nations as well, Lebanon. 1030 00:43:35,009 --> 00:43:36,808 Look, if CNN's corporate bosses 1031 00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:39,712 want to worship dictatorships, that's their right. 1032 00:43:39,714 --> 00:43:42,715 But when they're getting paid by the dictatorships to do it, 1033 00:43:42,717 --> 00:43:44,983 in my view, that's criminal, 1034 00:43:44,985 --> 00:43:46,985 and it's downright anti-American. 1035 00:43:46,987 --> 00:43:49,223 I was accused of leaking secrets of states. 1036 00:43:51,191 --> 00:43:53,294 Six times, house searched. 1037 00:43:54,795 --> 00:43:59,164 Well, they hoped that I wouldn't do that ever again. 1038 00:43:59,166 --> 00:44:00,733 I don't mind what will happen. 1039 00:44:00,735 --> 00:44:04,069 I've had three heart attacks, I have no children. 1040 00:44:04,071 --> 00:44:07,172 So if they want to bring me to court or to prison, 1041 00:44:07,174 --> 00:44:09,576 so it's worth for the truth. 1042 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,481 The truth won't die. 1043 00:44:17,151 --> 00:44:18,583 Decades ago, it used to be the case 1044 00:44:18,585 --> 00:44:21,987 that news divisions did their investigative reporting, 1045 00:44:21,989 --> 00:44:23,322 operating in a loss. 1046 00:44:23,324 --> 00:44:25,090 They did so in the public interest. 1047 00:44:25,092 --> 00:44:26,992 That's gone by the wayside. 1048 00:44:26,994 --> 00:44:29,828 These days, news organizations do specifically 1049 00:44:29,830 --> 00:44:32,164 what behooves their bottom line. 1050 00:44:32,166 --> 00:44:34,767 Hi, my name is James O'Keefe. 1051 00:44:34,769 --> 00:44:36,168 I'm from Project Veritas. 1052 00:44:36,170 --> 00:44:38,437 Project Veritas started with the mission 1053 00:44:38,439 --> 00:44:40,839 of investigating, exposing waste, fraud, 1054 00:44:40,841 --> 00:44:43,676 abuse, corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, 1055 00:44:43,678 --> 00:44:46,345 in order to make a more ethical and transparent society. 1056 00:44:46,347 --> 00:44:48,547 In order to do that, we have to go undercover 1057 00:44:48,549 --> 00:44:50,549 because a lot of these people are not gonna tell us 1058 00:44:50,551 --> 00:44:52,117 on the record what's happening. 1059 00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:53,686 One story has monopolized 1060 00:44:53,688 --> 00:44:56,555 President Trump's time in office like no other. 1061 00:44:56,557 --> 00:44:58,691 Especially on CNN. 1062 00:44:58,693 --> 00:44:59,858 Russia. 1063 00:44:59,860 --> 00:45:01,293 In fact, since the inauguration, 1064 00:45:01,295 --> 00:45:04,262 CNN has mentioned Russia on their air 1065 00:45:04,264 --> 00:45:07,099 nearly 16,000 times. 1066 00:45:07,101 --> 00:45:10,102 So we sent our undercover reporters inside CNN 1067 00:45:10,104 --> 00:45:12,237 to understand why. 1068 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,473 Then why is CNN constantly like, 1069 00:45:14,475 --> 00:45:16,575 Russia this, Russia that? 1070 00:45:16,577 --> 00:45:17,876 Because it's ratings. 1071 00:45:17,878 --> 00:45:19,411 If it's all just because of ratings, 1072 00:45:19,413 --> 00:45:21,646 if it's all just for money, 1073 00:45:21,648 --> 00:45:26,618 if his own staff, more than one person thinks that it's BS. 1074 00:45:26,620 --> 00:45:29,087 The Russia thing is just a big nothing burger. 1075 00:45:29,089 --> 00:45:29,888 Really? 1076 00:45:29,890 --> 00:45:31,089 Yeah. 1077 00:45:31,091 --> 00:45:32,157 It's mostly bullshit right now. 1078 00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:36,928 Like, we don't have any big giant proof. 1079 00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:40,399 And they're doing it in order to make money only. 1080 00:45:40,401 --> 00:45:42,567 All the nice cutesy little ethics 1081 00:45:42,569 --> 00:45:44,771 that used to get talked about in journalism school, 1082 00:45:44,773 --> 00:45:47,305 you're just like, that's adorable. 1083 00:45:48,642 --> 00:45:49,744 That's adorable. 1084 00:45:52,179 --> 00:45:53,578 Yeah, this is a business. 1085 00:45:53,580 --> 00:45:55,113 That's something the American people need to see. 1086 00:45:55,115 --> 00:45:57,416 I'm not making a value judgment about it. 1087 00:45:57,418 --> 00:45:59,351 But that's information that people need to see. 1088 00:45:59,353 --> 00:46:01,520 And that's the real, the heart of the matter is 1089 00:46:01,522 --> 00:46:03,188 journalism is about exposing things 1090 00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:04,356 for what they really are. 1091 00:46:04,358 --> 00:46:07,025 And there's a lot of powerful interests 1092 00:46:07,027 --> 00:46:09,294 that do not want things exposed 1093 00:46:09,296 --> 00:46:11,163 for how they actually are. 1094 00:46:11,165 --> 00:46:12,497 People go in the media. 1095 00:46:12,499 --> 00:46:14,533 Journalists, would be journalists, would say, 1096 00:46:14,535 --> 00:46:16,635 Cernovich, you just want clicks. 1097 00:46:16,637 --> 00:46:18,537 All you care about is page views. 1098 00:46:18,539 --> 00:46:21,306 These are the people who live and die by ratings. 1099 00:46:21,308 --> 00:46:23,975 These are the people who the minute the show's over, 1100 00:46:23,977 --> 00:46:26,846 they're waiting for the ratings to be uploaded. 1101 00:46:26,848 --> 00:46:28,881 If there's a way to start a war, 1102 00:46:28,883 --> 00:46:31,818 and get America involved in another major massive war, 1103 00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:33,886 all the media companies stand to make a lot of money. 1104 00:46:33,888 --> 00:46:35,287 Nobody talks about that. 1105 00:46:35,289 --> 00:46:36,988 For example, when there was a major 1106 00:46:36,990 --> 00:46:38,693 terrorist attack in France, 1107 00:46:39,894 --> 00:46:42,294 the images of dead babies were blurred, 1108 00:46:42,296 --> 00:46:43,696 and we were told by the media 1109 00:46:43,698 --> 00:46:48,300 never show, never show dead children on television. 1110 00:46:48,302 --> 00:46:49,568 This is too horrific. 1111 00:46:49,570 --> 00:46:50,368 This is not what we're about. 1112 00:46:50,370 --> 00:46:51,303 You can't do it. 1113 00:46:51,305 --> 00:46:52,839 This is what we're told, right? 1114 00:46:52,841 --> 00:46:55,340 But then suddenly we have a story 1115 00:46:55,342 --> 00:46:56,508 about Assad gassing his people, 1116 00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:59,311 and a lot of people want war in Syria. 1117 00:46:59,313 --> 00:47:01,213 Well not only do they accept the conclusion 1118 00:47:01,215 --> 00:47:02,581 that Assad gassed his own people 1119 00:47:02,583 --> 00:47:04,349 without any real evidence. 1120 00:47:04,351 --> 00:47:09,221 But now they post images of dead babies on television. 1121 00:47:09,223 --> 00:47:12,023 And in the newspapers, and post those pictures. 1122 00:47:12,025 --> 00:47:16,361 Tonight I ordered a targeted military strike. 1123 00:47:16,363 --> 00:47:17,663 The President again 1124 00:47:17,665 --> 00:47:20,198 citing the disturbing video of Tuesday's horrific 1125 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,703 chemical attack as a major influence on his decision. 1126 00:47:23,705 --> 00:47:26,371 A dizzying turnaround for an administration 1127 00:47:26,373 --> 00:47:29,508 that just days ago declared that their priority 1128 00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:33,278 was not to oust Syrian President Bashar Al Assad from power. 1129 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,181 Donald Trump became President of the United States. 1130 00:47:36,183 --> 00:47:37,683 I think this was actually a big moment. 1131 00:47:37,685 --> 00:47:41,286 The media makes a massive amount of money with wars, 1132 00:47:41,288 --> 00:47:43,255 because then you have nonstop coverage, 1133 00:47:43,257 --> 00:47:45,725 embedded journalists, hot new footage. 1134 00:47:45,727 --> 00:47:47,425 Watch this latest bombing drop. 1135 00:47:47,427 --> 00:47:49,227 Watch this latest fire fight. 1136 00:47:49,229 --> 00:47:51,797 We see these beautiful pictures at night 1137 00:47:51,799 --> 00:47:55,534 from the decks of these two US Navy vessels 1138 00:47:55,536 --> 00:47:57,770 in the Eastern Mediterranean. 1139 00:47:57,772 --> 00:48:00,773 I am tempted to quote the great Leonard Cohen. 1140 00:48:00,775 --> 00:48:03,241 I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons. 1141 00:48:03,243 --> 00:48:05,711 And they are beautiful pictures. 1142 00:48:05,713 --> 00:48:06,979 They make a ton of money doing that. 1143 00:48:06,981 --> 00:48:08,814 Not only that, but their parent corporations 1144 00:48:08,816 --> 00:48:10,415 and these media holding companies 1145 00:48:10,417 --> 00:48:13,285 and their shareholders make a ton of money off of war. 1146 00:48:13,287 --> 00:48:14,654 Boeing makes a ton of money. 1147 00:48:14,656 --> 00:48:16,756 Its contractors make a ton of money. 1148 00:48:16,758 --> 00:48:18,256 The lobbyists make a ton of money. 1149 00:48:18,258 --> 00:48:20,425 Because now you have contracts to dole out. 1150 00:48:20,427 --> 00:48:21,827 Nobody talks about this though. 1151 00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:23,328 How does the media make its money? 1152 00:48:23,330 --> 00:48:26,331 War is never coming from itself. 1153 00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:29,936 There is always people behind it to push for war, 1154 00:48:29,938 --> 00:48:32,337 and this is not only politicians, 1155 00:48:32,339 --> 00:48:33,940 this is journalists too. 1156 00:48:33,942 --> 00:48:36,174 'Cause you know there's a lot of job at stake, 1157 00:48:36,176 --> 00:48:38,945 certainly if a lot of these defense contractors 1158 00:48:38,947 --> 00:48:41,013 stop selling war planes, 1159 00:48:41,015 --> 00:48:42,614 other sophisticated equipment, 1160 00:48:42,616 --> 00:48:45,283 there's gonna be a significant loss of jobs. 1161 00:48:45,285 --> 00:48:46,318 So what they're doing 1162 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,920 is completely dishonest. 1163 00:48:56,463 --> 00:48:58,296 This is beyond hoax. 1164 00:48:58,298 --> 00:49:00,632 This is a giant organized fraud. 1165 00:49:00,634 --> 00:49:01,968 The news is not the news. 1166 00:49:01,970 --> 00:49:03,203 The news is propaganda. 1167 00:49:09,309 --> 00:49:11,443 Nothing has captured this crisis 1168 00:49:11,445 --> 00:49:14,379 like the picture that we began with last night. 1169 00:49:14,381 --> 00:49:16,381 His family says his name was Islan, 1170 00:49:16,383 --> 00:49:18,450 and that he and his brother and his mother 1171 00:49:18,452 --> 00:49:20,385 drowned trying to reach Greece by boat. 1172 00:49:21,488 --> 00:49:26,493 All photographs are rhetoric. 1173 00:49:27,996 --> 00:49:29,628 All photographs are accurate. 1174 00:49:29,630 --> 00:49:31,465 None of them are the truth. 1175 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,801 Let's face it, we don't see the world in a still frame. 1176 00:49:35,803 --> 00:49:37,469 We don't see the world in black and white. 1177 00:49:37,471 --> 00:49:39,805 We don't see the world frozen. 1178 00:49:39,807 --> 00:49:41,874 All photographs are kind of self portraits. 1179 00:49:41,876 --> 00:49:44,877 They're really a reflection of the photographer 1180 00:49:44,879 --> 00:49:46,879 and the editor. 1181 00:49:46,881 --> 00:49:50,716 There's a lot of journalists who get angry when I say that. 1182 00:49:50,718 --> 00:49:52,350 And tonight, we're gonna spend the program 1183 00:49:52,352 --> 00:49:54,552 looking at the power of that image, 1184 00:49:54,554 --> 00:49:57,355 which has shocked the world, shaken politicians, 1185 00:49:57,357 --> 00:49:59,391 and transformed the debate about refugees 1186 00:49:59,393 --> 00:50:00,425 fleeing from war. 1187 00:50:00,427 --> 00:50:02,762 If you're listening to a song, 1188 00:50:02,764 --> 00:50:04,030 you have to listen to the song. 1189 00:50:04,032 --> 00:50:05,397 You have to at least get to the hook 1190 00:50:05,399 --> 00:50:07,599 before you decide that you think it's a good song. 1191 00:50:07,601 --> 00:50:09,434 Still images don't work that way. 1192 00:50:09,436 --> 00:50:11,904 Still images happen immediately. 1193 00:50:11,906 --> 00:50:13,538 I just can't look at that without being so upset. 1194 00:50:13,540 --> 00:50:16,108 Like, it just makes me think how lucky, 1195 00:50:16,110 --> 00:50:17,743 lucky I am that I live in Australia, 1196 00:50:17,745 --> 00:50:19,244 that my children live in Australia. 1197 00:50:19,246 --> 00:50:20,512 That's what it means. 1198 00:50:20,514 --> 00:50:21,446 Yeah. 1199 00:50:21,448 --> 00:50:23,181 The most persuasive thing is visual, 1200 00:50:23,183 --> 00:50:25,918 our visual sense overpowers everything else. 1201 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,287 So what they choose to show as an image 1202 00:50:29,289 --> 00:50:33,291 is the message no matter what the words on the screen say. 1203 00:50:33,293 --> 00:50:34,559 What you remember is what you saw. 1204 00:50:34,561 --> 00:50:39,031 The salacious or the shock value of images 1205 00:50:39,033 --> 00:50:41,633 can be used in order to kind of manipulate 1206 00:50:41,635 --> 00:50:44,870 peoples behavior. 1207 00:50:44,872 --> 00:50:46,739 Dead children are normally taboo, 1208 00:50:46,741 --> 00:50:48,640 especially on the front page. 1209 00:50:48,642 --> 00:50:51,443 But next morning, almost every UK newspaper 1210 00:50:51,445 --> 00:50:54,479 broke the rule and ran an image on the front cover. 1211 00:50:54,481 --> 00:50:55,917 And if you compare that 1212 00:50:57,284 --> 00:51:02,154 to the bodies in Europe from terrorist attacks, 1213 00:51:02,156 --> 00:51:03,923 some of which committed by 1214 00:51:03,925 --> 00:51:05,660 these migrants or their descendants. 1215 00:51:06,894 --> 00:51:09,095 Those bodies you can't see. 1216 00:51:09,097 --> 00:51:11,463 Showing those bodies can get you censored 1217 00:51:11,465 --> 00:51:12,497 on social media. 1218 00:51:12,499 --> 00:51:14,265 People still have fears. 1219 00:51:14,267 --> 00:51:15,633 Fears that migrants might have 1220 00:51:15,635 --> 00:51:17,469 an ISIS member lurking among them, 1221 00:51:17,471 --> 00:51:20,139 which there has been no credible example of. 1222 00:51:22,677 --> 00:51:25,243 News broke that one of the attackers may have posed 1223 00:51:25,245 --> 00:51:26,812 as a refugee and entered Europe 1224 00:51:26,814 --> 00:51:29,181 through Greece with a fake Syrian passport. 1225 00:51:29,183 --> 00:51:31,650 Knowing that you're not seeing those photographs 1226 00:51:31,652 --> 00:51:33,152 should be a tip, right? 1227 00:51:33,154 --> 00:51:37,589 It should be a clue. 1228 00:51:39,526 --> 00:51:42,360 So I had always sensed that the news, 1229 00:51:42,362 --> 00:51:43,495 there was a lot of fake news. 1230 00:51:43,497 --> 00:51:44,864 I'd always sensed it, 1231 00:51:44,866 --> 00:51:47,967 but I lived it, and I was completely behind the scenes. 1232 00:51:47,969 --> 00:51:50,604 What happened, what brought me into journalism, 1233 00:51:51,505 --> 00:51:54,305 is there was a big thing going on 1234 00:51:54,307 --> 00:51:57,442 in Budapest Hungary with migrants. 1235 00:51:57,444 --> 00:51:59,812 The media was saying the Hungarian people 1236 00:51:59,814 --> 00:52:01,646 are just beating up these migrants, 1237 00:52:01,648 --> 00:52:03,048 and they're abusing them. 1238 00:52:03,050 --> 00:52:04,351 This is so terrible. 1239 00:52:05,552 --> 00:52:08,453 So I happened to be over in Budapest. 1240 00:52:08,455 --> 00:52:11,123 So I just said I was going to be in Hungary through my blog. 1241 00:52:11,125 --> 00:52:12,490 And I started getting emails from people. 1242 00:52:12,492 --> 00:52:13,525 I see you're gonna be in Hungary. 1243 00:52:13,527 --> 00:52:14,561 I actually live here. 1244 00:52:16,164 --> 00:52:17,696 And then I decided to have a meet-up through my blog. 1245 00:52:17,698 --> 00:52:18,898 Because they said, oh yeah, 1246 00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:20,565 the media's like totally lying about this. 1247 00:52:20,567 --> 00:52:22,534 We'll show you what's really going on. 1248 00:52:22,536 --> 00:52:25,405 And then I thought, wait a minute. 1249 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,973 I don't have blog readers. 1250 00:52:27,975 --> 00:52:29,141 I don't have book readers. 1251 00:52:29,143 --> 00:52:31,309 I have a human intelligence network. 1252 00:52:31,311 --> 00:52:33,511 And then I thought about "Fight Club." 1253 00:52:33,513 --> 00:52:35,881 They said we're the ones serving your food. 1254 00:52:35,883 --> 00:52:37,582 We're the ones watching your car. 1255 00:52:37,584 --> 00:52:39,051 We're the parking lot attendants. 1256 00:52:39,053 --> 00:52:40,886 We're the baristas. 1257 00:52:40,888 --> 00:52:43,856 And I kind of had that moment where I go, 1258 00:52:43,858 --> 00:52:45,658 yeah I don't have readers. 1259 00:52:45,660 --> 00:52:47,327 I now have sources. 1260 00:52:48,495 --> 00:52:50,528 Do not fuck with us. 1261 00:52:52,432 --> 00:52:54,767 So I went to Hungary and I reported on 1262 00:52:54,769 --> 00:52:58,204 the refugee hoax that was going on. 1263 00:52:58,206 --> 00:53:00,272 They were actually being very well taken care of. 1264 00:53:00,274 --> 00:53:02,041 There was charity everywhere you looked. 1265 00:53:02,043 --> 00:53:03,943 Everybody there is very well fed. 1266 00:53:03,945 --> 00:53:06,278 Multiple meals, cleaning areas, 1267 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,545 tent cities everywhere. 1268 00:53:07,547 --> 00:53:09,048 The men are playing soccer. 1269 00:53:09,050 --> 00:53:10,548 People are goofing off. 1270 00:53:10,550 --> 00:53:13,921 Completely different than what was being reported. 1271 00:53:15,223 --> 00:53:17,289 There was one woman in a wheelchair. 1272 00:53:17,291 --> 00:53:18,590 So you know what? 1273 00:53:18,592 --> 00:53:20,625 All the media people lined up to talk 1274 00:53:20,627 --> 00:53:22,795 to the one woman in the wheelchair. 1275 00:53:22,797 --> 00:53:25,563 No camera was on anything else happening there. 1276 00:53:25,565 --> 00:53:26,866 So as I'm there witnessing it, 1277 00:53:26,868 --> 00:53:28,466 then I would read the New York Times, 1278 00:53:28,468 --> 00:53:30,401 and you see an image of a child, 1279 00:53:30,403 --> 00:53:32,705 or a person in a wheelchair or something. 1280 00:53:32,707 --> 00:53:34,707 No, there were like 10 or 15 kids there. 1281 00:53:34,709 --> 00:53:36,976 The rest of them were men of prime fighting age. 1282 00:53:36,978 --> 00:53:38,376 What happened for me personally 1283 00:53:38,378 --> 00:53:39,644 at the Colletti Train Station 1284 00:53:39,646 --> 00:53:41,315 is I had never had something go viral. 1285 00:53:42,283 --> 00:53:43,782 I uploaded pictures on Facebook, 1286 00:53:43,784 --> 00:53:46,819 and I got over a million people reach on Facebook. 1287 00:53:46,821 --> 00:53:49,755 And I go, wow, okay, I'm on to something. 1288 00:53:49,757 --> 00:53:50,990 And then I started to say, 1289 00:53:50,992 --> 00:53:52,557 well I'm gonna take people behind the news. 1290 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,761 I'm gonna put the camera on the media. 1291 00:53:55,763 --> 00:53:58,063 Could have undermined the messaging so much 1292 00:53:58,065 --> 00:54:00,666 that he can actually control 1293 00:54:00,668 --> 00:54:02,500 exactly what people think. 1294 00:54:02,502 --> 00:54:05,804 And that it our job. 1295 00:54:05,806 --> 00:54:07,106 The old guard is gone. 1296 00:54:07,108 --> 00:54:08,274 The new guard is here. 1297 00:54:08,276 --> 00:54:09,641 Journalism on the web, 1298 00:54:09,643 --> 00:54:12,077 and created specifically for the web, 1299 00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,346 is disrupting traditional models 1300 00:54:14,348 --> 00:54:15,915 and creating new ones. 1301 00:54:15,917 --> 00:54:17,482 You're credited with pretty much 1302 00:54:17,484 --> 00:54:20,185 digitally revolutionizing this whole new media movement. 1303 00:54:20,187 --> 00:54:21,486 My name is Tim Pool. 1304 00:54:21,488 --> 00:54:23,155 I'm a journalist and technologist. 1305 00:54:23,157 --> 00:54:26,591 I cover conflict and crisis stories all over the world. 1306 00:54:26,593 --> 00:54:28,459 I was in Egypt during the revolution. 1307 00:54:28,461 --> 00:54:30,428 I was in Ukraine at the start of the civil war. 1308 00:54:30,430 --> 00:54:33,431 I was in the Venezuelan student uprising a few years ago. 1309 00:54:33,433 --> 00:54:35,533 Among many other stories. 1310 00:54:35,535 --> 00:54:38,636 I think the new media is finding faster, 1311 00:54:38,638 --> 00:54:40,673 better, and more efficient ways to cover the story 1312 00:54:40,675 --> 00:54:42,274 than old media ever can. 1313 00:54:42,276 --> 00:54:44,276 When I go out on the ground to report, 1314 00:54:44,278 --> 00:54:46,845 I have a GoPro that's about this big, and my phone. 1315 00:54:46,847 --> 00:54:48,113 I can strap the phone to my chest, 1316 00:54:48,115 --> 00:54:49,949 which does a high definition live broadcast. 1317 00:54:49,951 --> 00:54:51,984 I can interact with my audience. 1318 00:54:51,986 --> 00:54:53,118 And then I look over to my side, 1319 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,386 and I see a big satellite truck 1320 00:54:54,388 --> 00:54:56,121 that costs 10 times, 100 times as much 1321 00:54:56,123 --> 00:54:57,723 as my cell phone plan. 1322 00:54:57,725 --> 00:55:00,458 TV-31 wants you to meet our newest addition. 1323 00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:03,996 I'm filming two things at once. 1324 00:55:03,998 --> 00:55:06,631 I'm reporting, I'm filming, 1325 00:55:06,633 --> 00:55:08,801 I'm interacting with the audience. 1326 00:55:08,803 --> 00:55:10,402 I'm also filming a separate segment. 1327 00:55:10,404 --> 00:55:12,705 The jobs of four people in one person. 1328 00:55:12,707 --> 00:55:15,307 And they still can't get the speed 1329 00:55:15,309 --> 00:55:16,742 and content that I can. 1330 00:55:16,744 --> 00:55:19,078 Yeah, I took that mindset of, 1331 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,014 going behind the scenes to Trump events. 1332 00:55:29,323 --> 00:55:32,024 Not to rallies, which I found quite boring. 1333 00:55:32,026 --> 00:55:34,259 But to what was happening outside. 1334 00:55:34,261 --> 00:55:35,728 And it was carnage. 1335 00:55:38,766 --> 00:55:39,832 Fucking disgrace! 1336 00:55:39,834 --> 00:55:41,033 People were taking over the streets, 1337 00:55:41,035 --> 00:55:42,368 were tearing down signs, 1338 00:55:42,370 --> 00:55:45,170 sucker punching people, screaming at people. 1339 00:55:45,172 --> 00:55:47,272 It was pandemonium, and I just live streamed. 1340 00:55:47,274 --> 00:55:48,539 I didn't know what was going on. 1341 00:55:48,541 --> 00:55:50,876 I just live streamed the whole thing. 1342 00:55:50,878 --> 00:55:53,345 And my phone went dead. 1343 00:55:53,347 --> 00:55:54,346 'Cause at the time, I didn't know 1344 00:55:54,348 --> 00:55:55,247 to have a battery pack. 1345 00:55:55,249 --> 00:55:56,782 You're like a rookie, right? 1346 00:55:56,784 --> 00:56:01,586 So I'm running to charge my battery. 1347 00:56:01,588 --> 00:56:03,288 Get like three, four, 5%. 1348 00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:08,295 Sprint back, live streaming, sprinting back, live streaming. 1349 00:56:08,796 --> 00:56:09,728 And it was fun. 1350 00:56:09,730 --> 00:56:11,196 It was a major adrenaline rush. 1351 00:56:11,198 --> 00:56:13,198 The biggest difference between 1352 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,935 independent journalist and a mainstream reporter 1353 00:56:16,937 --> 00:56:18,737 first is the entrepreneurial attitude. 1354 00:56:18,739 --> 00:56:20,806 It's a huge risk to go off on your own. 1355 00:56:20,808 --> 00:56:22,908 And so immediately, there's going to be 1356 00:56:22,910 --> 00:56:24,977 a different perspective on the world. 1357 00:56:24,979 --> 00:56:27,046 A lot of the traditional journalists, 1358 00:56:27,048 --> 00:56:29,782 they get out of school, they look for a job. 1359 00:56:29,784 --> 00:56:31,417 A lot of independent journalists 1360 00:56:31,419 --> 00:56:32,617 know what they want to do, 1361 00:56:32,619 --> 00:56:34,720 and oftentimes will fly themselves 1362 00:56:34,722 --> 00:56:36,655 to some dangerous part of the world, 1363 00:56:36,657 --> 00:56:37,756 'cause they want the story. 1364 00:56:37,758 --> 00:56:39,258 Yeah, but we live for this, you know? 1365 00:56:39,260 --> 00:56:40,893 We live to tell the truth. 1366 00:56:40,895 --> 00:56:43,328 Nobody else is gonna do it, we have to do it. 1367 00:56:43,330 --> 00:56:46,799 So, here's another great example of fake news. 1368 00:56:46,801 --> 00:56:49,134 If you watch the news of the RNC, 1369 00:56:49,136 --> 00:56:54,075 you would be told total chaos, division. 1370 00:56:54,909 --> 00:56:56,842 Oh there's protests everywhere. 1371 00:56:56,844 --> 00:56:58,512 Protests everywhere at the RNC. 1372 00:56:59,914 --> 00:57:01,747 You go to these protests, it's 20 people. 1373 00:57:01,749 --> 00:57:02,817 I kid you not. 1374 00:57:03,784 --> 00:57:05,951 20 people. 1375 00:57:05,953 --> 00:57:08,619 And 100 media people, taking pictures. 1376 00:57:08,621 --> 00:57:09,521 And they would stage 'em. 1377 00:57:09,523 --> 00:57:11,090 And they would crop the shot 1378 00:57:11,092 --> 00:57:13,826 so you couldn't really tell how many people were there. 1379 00:57:13,828 --> 00:57:15,160 So disappointed by these protests. 1380 00:57:15,162 --> 00:57:16,095 Yeah I know. 1381 00:57:16,097 --> 00:57:17,196 I'm gonna have to go to DNC. 1382 00:57:20,633 --> 00:57:21,834 So I go, 1383 00:57:21,836 --> 00:57:26,171 and I was in a real protest march. 1384 00:57:30,878 --> 00:57:33,779 Burn that fucking white capitalist shit the fuck down. 1385 00:57:33,781 --> 00:57:34,548 Oh shit, oh shit. 1386 00:57:35,615 --> 00:57:36,982 Someone got burned! 1387 00:57:36,984 --> 00:57:39,351 If you turn on the news, you're not seeing this. 1388 00:57:39,353 --> 00:57:42,721 Day one of the DNC, I'm out there, Periscope-ing, 1389 00:57:42,723 --> 00:57:44,223 live streaming videos. 1390 00:57:44,225 --> 00:57:46,692 There are 5,000 people at least 1391 00:57:46,694 --> 00:57:48,861 at FDR Park across from the DNC. 1392 00:57:48,863 --> 00:57:49,962 Alright, 360. 1393 00:57:53,234 --> 00:57:54,632 Right? 1394 00:57:54,634 --> 00:57:56,034 That's everywhere, okay, everywhere. 1395 00:57:56,036 --> 00:57:59,037 You know how many mainstream journalists I saw there? 1396 00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:00,038 Zero. 1397 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,541 There's not even one journalist here. 1398 00:58:02,543 --> 00:58:03,342 Except for me. 1399 00:58:03,344 --> 00:58:04,676 They're all on Twitter, 1400 00:58:04,678 --> 00:58:07,079 talking about the future of the Democratic Party 1401 00:58:07,081 --> 00:58:08,680 and the future of the election. 1402 00:58:08,682 --> 00:58:11,183 They're unbelievably lazy. 1403 00:58:11,185 --> 00:58:13,852 You know, being a right winger in New York City, 1404 00:58:13,854 --> 00:58:16,889 I'm drowned in the opposition, 1405 00:58:16,891 --> 00:58:18,590 and you learn to enjoy conflict. 1406 00:58:18,592 --> 00:58:19,925 You learn to enjoy arguing, 1407 00:58:19,927 --> 00:58:22,394 and I think it makes you a more complete person. 1408 00:58:22,396 --> 00:58:24,096 And we wonder why the the media 1409 00:58:24,098 --> 00:58:25,499 has become mentally obese. 1410 00:58:28,869 --> 00:58:30,369 These people don't leave their desks. 1411 00:58:30,371 --> 00:58:32,271 And this is true of the right and the left. 1412 00:58:32,273 --> 00:58:33,572 They'll sit there and they'll Google, 1413 00:58:33,574 --> 00:58:35,174 and they'll talk about a backlash, 1414 00:58:35,176 --> 00:58:36,909 and you'll go check the evidence of this backlash 1415 00:58:36,911 --> 00:58:38,944 and you realize it's just tweets. 1416 00:58:38,946 --> 00:58:41,180 There's no more Watergate from the beat reporter, 1417 00:58:41,182 --> 00:58:42,381 talking to people on the street, 1418 00:58:42,383 --> 00:58:44,016 'cause he just uses Google. 1419 00:58:44,018 --> 00:58:47,786 These kids now are turning to themselves for information. 1420 00:58:47,788 --> 00:58:49,388 They're their own journalists. 1421 00:58:49,390 --> 00:58:51,089 And that's what's so exciting about this time, 1422 00:58:51,091 --> 00:58:53,892 is someone like James O'Keefe can come along 1423 00:58:53,894 --> 00:58:57,095 with an undercover camera and totally blow up 1424 00:58:57,097 --> 00:58:59,398 the New York Times, fake voting, 1425 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,933 all of this stuff by going out there 1426 00:59:00,935 --> 00:59:03,302 and just doing it themselves. 1427 00:59:03,304 --> 00:59:04,970 So the biggest rub on me 1428 00:59:04,972 --> 00:59:06,138 is that I'm not a journalist. 1429 00:59:06,140 --> 00:59:07,439 That's what they will say. 1430 00:59:07,441 --> 00:59:09,041 James O'Keefe is not a journalist. 1431 00:59:09,043 --> 00:59:12,044 Whatever they want to call us, it doesn't matter. 1432 00:59:12,046 --> 00:59:14,446 What matters is the thing that you are producing. 1433 00:59:14,448 --> 00:59:17,382 I'd like to get comments as soon as possible. 1434 00:59:17,384 --> 00:59:18,483 Oh okay. 1435 00:59:18,485 --> 00:59:19,284 From name? 1436 00:59:19,286 --> 00:59:20,421 James O'Keefe. 1437 00:59:22,423 --> 00:59:23,922 Can I put you on hold really quick? 1438 00:59:23,924 --> 00:59:25,090 Yeah thanks. 1439 00:59:25,092 --> 00:59:27,159 This is the oh shit moment. 1440 00:59:27,161 --> 00:59:29,928 Journalism is not just an identity, it's an activity. 1441 00:59:29,930 --> 00:59:32,231 It is what you do. 1442 00:59:32,233 --> 00:59:35,067 And you judge people based on what they produce. 1443 00:59:35,069 --> 00:59:37,002 Basically, everyone is a journalist. 1444 00:59:37,004 --> 00:59:40,105 But here you have actual grassroots activism, 1445 00:59:40,107 --> 00:59:41,740 and there's no media. 1446 00:59:41,742 --> 00:59:43,275 So you go to the DNC, 1447 00:59:43,277 --> 00:59:45,944 you see this massive protest, real protest. 1448 00:59:45,946 --> 00:59:47,980 Not like this bullshit at the RNC. 1449 00:59:47,982 --> 00:59:49,948 Which the media hyped up. 1450 00:59:49,950 --> 00:59:52,517 Real protestors, and they're democrats, 1451 00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:55,187 and they're being kept out by this big cage. 1452 00:59:55,189 --> 00:59:56,955 It's like we're the criminals, but not her. 1453 00:59:56,957 --> 00:59:58,323 Let us go! 1454 00:59:58,325 --> 00:59:59,659 And they're all talking about how they hate Hillary. 1455 00:59:59,661 --> 01:00:01,126 They're not gonna vote for her. 1456 01:00:01,128 --> 01:00:02,695 They're not gonna do anything for Hillary Clinton, 1457 01:00:02,697 --> 01:00:04,796 'cause they thought the primary was rigged. 1458 01:00:04,798 --> 01:00:07,499 And there's no mainstream coverage of this at all. 1459 01:00:07,501 --> 01:00:08,800 They're chanting Wikileaks. 1460 01:00:08,802 --> 01:00:10,102 What do you think about the Wikileaks? 1461 01:00:10,104 --> 01:00:12,304 Yeah, that's the last straw. 1462 01:00:12,306 --> 01:00:14,339 That is the proof of what we've all expected 1463 01:00:14,341 --> 01:00:15,874 that they've been doing. 1464 01:00:15,876 --> 01:00:18,377 Wikileaks released thousands of emails from the DNC, 1465 01:00:18,379 --> 01:00:21,346 appearing to show favoritism towards Hillary Clinton. 1466 01:00:21,348 --> 01:00:23,982 CNN can't verify the authenticity of those emails, 1467 01:00:23,984 --> 01:00:25,217 but they suggest that... 1468 01:00:25,219 --> 01:00:27,219 Bernie Sanders may have been right. 1469 01:00:27,221 --> 01:00:30,055 The primary system was rigged against him. 1470 01:00:30,057 --> 01:00:32,190 Wikileaks offered a window into the world 1471 01:00:32,192 --> 01:00:34,661 that most people would have never had, 1472 01:00:34,663 --> 01:00:37,562 and that's the real reason the media lied about Wikileaks. 1473 01:00:37,564 --> 01:00:39,699 When Chris Cuomo said on CNN... 1474 01:00:39,701 --> 01:00:43,502 It's illegal to possess these stolen documents. 1475 01:00:43,504 --> 01:00:44,870 It's different for the media. 1476 01:00:44,872 --> 01:00:45,804 So everything you learn about this, 1477 01:00:45,806 --> 01:00:47,472 you're learning from us. 1478 01:00:47,474 --> 01:00:48,473 It's different for the media. 1479 01:00:48,475 --> 01:00:49,676 It's different for the media. 1480 01:00:49,678 --> 01:00:50,642 Wikileaks showed, though, 1481 01:00:50,644 --> 01:00:51,910 the extent of the collusion. 1482 01:00:51,912 --> 01:00:55,147 There were, I believe, 52 reporters who 1483 01:00:55,149 --> 01:00:56,982 had had various off the record, 1484 01:00:56,984 --> 01:00:58,850 very homey dinners with John Podesta. 1485 01:00:58,852 --> 01:01:00,385 So they're all great friends. 1486 01:01:00,387 --> 01:01:02,689 Glenn Throsh, who was then at Politico 1487 01:01:02,691 --> 01:01:04,056 and now at the New York Times, 1488 01:01:04,058 --> 01:01:06,058 emails John Podesta and said, 1489 01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:08,160 "I'm such a hack that I'm gonna send you 1490 01:01:08,162 --> 01:01:10,095 "the part of the article that pertains to you 1491 01:01:10,097 --> 01:01:12,097 "before it's released." 1492 01:01:12,099 --> 01:01:14,199 What they were doing is they're giving 1493 01:01:14,201 --> 01:01:16,101 the other side a head start. 1494 01:01:16,103 --> 01:01:19,037 Hey, we're about to drop this hit piece on you tomorrow. 1495 01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:20,839 Get your talking points locked and loaded tonight. 1496 01:01:20,841 --> 01:01:22,274 It's amazingly valuable. 1497 01:01:22,276 --> 01:01:24,076 Not only did he not get punished, 1498 01:01:24,078 --> 01:01:26,178 he is now the White House correspondent 1499 01:01:26,180 --> 01:01:27,047 at the New York Times. 1500 01:01:31,251 --> 01:01:35,387 Maggie Haberman, who I also believe is at Politico, 1501 01:01:35,389 --> 01:01:37,422 was referred to as a friendly reporter 1502 01:01:37,424 --> 01:01:40,258 that the Clinton campaign would use to tee up stories. 1503 01:01:40,260 --> 01:01:44,029 Maggie Haberman now works at the New York Times. 1504 01:01:44,031 --> 01:01:45,564 I have an uphill climb, 1505 01:01:45,566 --> 01:01:48,266 and I'm gonna climb as high and hard as I can. 1506 01:01:48,268 --> 01:01:51,103 Donna Brazile was a CNN contributor, 1507 01:01:51,105 --> 01:01:53,905 and she obtained some questions from the town hall 1508 01:01:53,907 --> 01:01:55,907 which was competitive between 1509 01:01:55,909 --> 01:01:57,810 Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, 1510 01:01:57,812 --> 01:01:59,746 and she gave the questions to Hillary Clinton. 1511 01:01:59,748 --> 01:02:04,149 She confirmed that the primary was rigged against Bernie, 1512 01:02:04,151 --> 01:02:06,251 and it was rigged for Hillary. 1513 01:02:06,253 --> 01:02:08,153 She revealed that based on the fundraising agreement 1514 01:02:08,155 --> 01:02:10,322 between Hillary Clinton's campaign 1515 01:02:10,324 --> 01:02:13,291 and between the DNC that all the messaging from the DNC 1516 01:02:13,293 --> 01:02:15,293 had to be cleared by what she called Brooklyn. 1517 01:02:15,295 --> 01:02:17,929 That was the Hillary Clinton office. 1518 01:02:17,931 --> 01:02:19,799 Every press release had to be pre-approved. 1519 01:02:19,801 --> 01:02:21,734 Well that's a nice advantage. 1520 01:02:21,736 --> 01:02:23,770 I would like every article about me 1521 01:02:23,772 --> 01:02:25,003 to have to be pre-approved by me. 1522 01:02:25,005 --> 01:02:26,438 That would be amazing. 1523 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,307 Wikileaks confirmed what people already knew, 1524 01:02:29,309 --> 01:02:31,811 but couldn't prove, which is that the media 1525 01:02:31,813 --> 01:02:33,478 and the democrats are one in the same. 1526 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,279 There is no difference. 1527 01:02:34,281 --> 01:02:35,914 They're all buddy buddy. 1528 01:02:35,916 --> 01:02:37,249 And whatever you read in the mainstream news 1529 01:02:37,251 --> 01:02:39,484 is gonna be the democrat talking points. 1530 01:02:39,486 --> 01:02:40,753 One of the things I don't think 1531 01:02:40,755 --> 01:02:43,321 you need to convince anybody anymore 1532 01:02:43,323 --> 01:02:46,091 is that the media is biased. 1533 01:02:46,093 --> 01:02:47,794 I think there used to be a day, you know, 1534 01:02:47,796 --> 01:02:49,695 maybe when I was a kid when people said, 1535 01:02:49,697 --> 01:02:53,866 well, the news is at least trying not to be biased. 1536 01:02:53,868 --> 01:02:55,169 They're at least trying. 1537 01:02:56,170 --> 01:02:58,336 But now nobody believes that. 1538 01:02:58,338 --> 01:03:03,008 What they do believe, which is weirder and maybe worse, 1539 01:03:03,010 --> 01:03:05,780 is that they believe that only the other side is biased. 1540 01:03:07,014 --> 01:03:09,948 And that's a tough one to crack. 1541 01:03:09,950 --> 01:03:11,483 You know, a lot of people will look at me 1542 01:03:11,485 --> 01:03:13,653 and they'll say, "Lauren, you've obviously got a bias." 1543 01:03:13,655 --> 01:03:15,320 Yeah, everyone has a bias. 1544 01:03:15,322 --> 01:03:16,321 I'm just honest about it. 1545 01:03:16,323 --> 01:03:17,556 I will tell you, yeah, 1546 01:03:17,558 --> 01:03:19,291 I'm coming from a right wing point of view. 1547 01:03:19,293 --> 01:03:22,662 That's why my feelings inside, I am right wing. 1548 01:03:22,664 --> 01:03:24,329 So I'm gonna explain that to you, 1549 01:03:24,331 --> 01:03:27,165 and tell you to go look and read other journalism as well. 1550 01:03:27,167 --> 01:03:29,367 It doesn't matter if you are 1551 01:03:29,369 --> 01:03:30,670 one political side or the other. 1552 01:03:30,672 --> 01:03:32,037 It matters are you gonna tell the truth 1553 01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:33,305 about what happened. 1554 01:03:33,307 --> 01:03:35,875 And so, with a lot of these journalists, 1555 01:03:35,877 --> 01:03:39,311 they're more interested in winning. 1556 01:03:39,313 --> 01:03:41,480 They're more interested in the political agenda. 1557 01:03:41,482 --> 01:03:43,916 They're more interested in fitting in than being honest. 1558 01:03:43,918 --> 01:03:45,852 If I was the CEO of the New York Times, I would say, 1559 01:03:45,854 --> 01:03:47,653 I would bring all my reporters in the room and say, 1560 01:03:47,655 --> 01:03:49,154 "Here's the deal. 1561 01:03:49,156 --> 01:03:51,423 "If you have an opinion, 1562 01:03:51,425 --> 01:03:53,558 "and it gets injected into your article, 1563 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,161 "then state that to the public." 1564 01:03:56,163 --> 01:03:57,429 The issue with the mainstream media 1565 01:03:57,431 --> 01:03:59,197 is they tell you I'm neutral, 1566 01:03:59,199 --> 01:04:01,701 I'm coming from a position that's totally impartial. 1567 01:04:03,337 --> 01:04:07,005 President Obama is the most noble man who has ever lived 1568 01:04:07,007 --> 01:04:08,273 in the White House. 1569 01:04:08,275 --> 01:04:10,943 The Manchurian candidate couldn't destroy us 1570 01:04:10,945 --> 01:04:12,745 faster than Barack Obama. 1571 01:04:12,747 --> 01:04:16,581 It's illegal to possess these stolen documents. 1572 01:04:16,583 --> 01:04:19,584 The most trusted name in news. 1573 01:04:19,586 --> 01:04:20,887 It's ridiculous. 1574 01:04:20,889 --> 01:04:22,587 You have media that's literally colluding, 1575 01:04:22,589 --> 01:04:25,190 and during the debates, they're leaking questions. 1576 01:04:25,192 --> 01:04:27,793 And still pretending to be impartial media. 1577 01:04:27,795 --> 01:04:29,561 Everyone has a bias. 1578 01:04:29,563 --> 01:04:31,263 It's just some people are gonna be honest about it, 1579 01:04:31,265 --> 01:04:32,899 and some people aren't. 1580 01:04:32,901 --> 01:04:36,969 And new media, independent media, are honest about it. 1581 01:04:36,971 --> 01:04:38,370 What I learned at the DNC, 1582 01:04:38,372 --> 01:04:40,238 not only about the media being fake 1583 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,708 and how they would construct a fake narrative in real time, 1584 01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:46,077 but I did see how the democrats and the media 1585 01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,380 were covering up the whole Bernie Sanders thing. 1586 01:04:48,382 --> 01:04:50,282 And I said, but there's no way in the world 1587 01:04:50,284 --> 01:04:51,316 Hillary Clinton is going to win. 1588 01:04:51,318 --> 01:04:54,219 So people of course call me all year. 1589 01:04:54,221 --> 01:04:55,788 You're an idiot, you're a conspiracy theorist, 1590 01:04:55,790 --> 01:04:57,455 you don't know anything. 1591 01:04:57,457 --> 01:04:58,390 You're not an expert, blah. 1592 01:04:58,392 --> 01:04:59,759 And I was like, well, 1593 01:04:59,761 --> 01:05:01,894 that's because you're watching the news. 1594 01:05:08,068 --> 01:05:09,467 Could he actually win? 1595 01:05:09,469 --> 01:05:11,136 No freaking way! 1596 01:05:12,139 --> 01:05:13,806 And which republican candidate 1597 01:05:13,808 --> 01:05:16,842 has the best chance of winning the general election? 1598 01:05:16,844 --> 01:05:20,111 Of the declared ones, right now, Donald Trump. 1599 01:05:22,449 --> 01:05:25,183 We have Hillary as about 75 or an 80% favorite. 1600 01:05:25,185 --> 01:05:26,318 We have a different person to forecast. 1601 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,988 89% for Hillary Clinton. 1602 01:05:28,990 --> 01:05:31,323 Hillary Clinton has a 100% chance of winning. 1603 01:05:31,325 --> 01:05:32,959 The Presidential race is over. 1604 01:05:32,961 --> 01:05:34,694 The state of the race at the presidential level 1605 01:05:34,696 --> 01:05:36,328 is virtually over. 1606 01:05:36,330 --> 01:05:39,364 Oklahoma, Tennessee, Mississippi, South Carolina. 1607 01:05:39,366 --> 01:05:41,834 Pretty dramatic change in the forecast. 1608 01:05:41,836 --> 01:05:45,004 They were in a weird, weird situation right now. 1609 01:05:45,006 --> 01:05:47,372 And CNN projects Donald Trump will carry 1610 01:05:47,374 --> 01:05:48,473 the state of Florida. 1611 01:05:48,475 --> 01:05:49,709 Ohio will go to Donald Trump. 1612 01:05:49,711 --> 01:05:51,209 Donald Trump has won 1613 01:05:51,211 --> 01:05:52,510 the state of Pennsylvania. 1614 01:05:52,512 --> 01:05:54,346 That is the race. 1615 01:05:54,348 --> 01:05:56,682 Donald Trump wins the presidency. 1616 01:05:56,684 --> 01:05:58,383 America is crying tonight. 1617 01:05:58,385 --> 01:06:00,452 Everybody is crying. 1618 01:06:00,454 --> 01:06:02,454 How do we explain how this is possible. 1619 01:06:02,456 --> 01:06:04,023 How did this happen? 1620 01:06:04,025 --> 01:06:05,825 I think election day questions have been raised 1621 01:06:05,827 --> 01:06:07,626 about the role that false news stories 1622 01:06:07,628 --> 01:06:09,962 distributed online played in the final result. 1623 01:06:09,964 --> 01:06:11,363 There's been a lot of talk lately about... 1624 01:06:11,365 --> 01:06:12,464 - Fake news. - Fake news. 1625 01:06:12,466 --> 01:06:13,666 Fake news. 1626 01:06:13,668 --> 01:06:15,333 Hoax sites and hyper-partisan blogs. 1627 01:06:15,335 --> 01:06:16,468 That are spread further 1628 01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:17,903 on social media platforms. 1629 01:06:17,905 --> 01:06:19,471 As long as it's on social media, 1630 01:06:19,473 --> 01:06:20,706 people start believing it. 1631 01:06:20,708 --> 01:06:22,474 Real world political implications. 1632 01:06:22,476 --> 01:06:23,876 Real world consequences. 1633 01:06:23,878 --> 01:06:25,510 A threat to democracy. 1634 01:06:25,512 --> 01:06:28,213 Journalists are over-playing the fake news stories 1635 01:06:28,215 --> 01:06:30,550 to demonize people you don't agree with. 1636 01:06:33,755 --> 01:06:35,253 In this last election, 1637 01:06:35,255 --> 01:06:38,156 the nation was assaulted by imposters 1638 01:06:38,158 --> 01:06:40,525 masquerading as reporters. 1639 01:06:40,527 --> 01:06:43,361 Michael Cernovich, a southern California lawyer, 1640 01:06:43,363 --> 01:06:46,264 has become a magnet for readers, 1641 01:06:46,266 --> 01:06:50,836 with a taste for stories with no basis in fact. 1642 01:06:50,838 --> 01:06:54,707 Yeah, 60 Minutes wanted to do an interview with me 1643 01:06:54,709 --> 01:06:57,542 because they were doing a big segment on fake news. 1644 01:06:57,544 --> 01:07:00,614 And they wanted to make me out to be fake news. 1645 01:07:01,783 --> 01:07:03,849 It was a complete setup, God bless 'em. 1646 01:07:03,851 --> 01:07:06,786 Cernovich's website is just one of hundreds 1647 01:07:06,788 --> 01:07:10,522 publishing nonsense on the right and on the left. 1648 01:07:10,524 --> 01:07:13,358 So intelligent people who are familiar 1649 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,461 with my body of work understand what I do 1650 01:07:16,463 --> 01:07:18,563 and why I do it, and it's very meta. 1651 01:07:18,565 --> 01:07:21,133 The first thing that Machiavelli would tell 1652 01:07:21,135 --> 01:07:24,402 a prince to do would be to write a book, 1653 01:07:24,404 --> 01:07:25,738 denouncing the prince. 1654 01:07:25,740 --> 01:07:27,073 And so I think it's interesting, you know, 1655 01:07:27,075 --> 01:07:30,275 to have someone like Mike doing a documentary 1656 01:07:30,277 --> 01:07:33,478 about fake news, because it's owning a term 1657 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,949 that has been directed at him and people like him. 1658 01:07:36,951 --> 01:07:40,452 These news stories are fakes. 1659 01:07:40,454 --> 01:07:41,386 They're definitely not fake. 1660 01:07:41,388 --> 01:07:42,220 They're lies. 1661 01:07:42,222 --> 01:07:43,488 Not lie at all. 1662 01:07:43,490 --> 01:07:45,623 One of the reasons that someone like Mike 1663 01:07:45,625 --> 01:07:48,426 I think aggravates journalists so much 1664 01:07:48,428 --> 01:07:53,600 is that he's sort of like a carnival mirror. 1665 01:07:54,568 --> 01:07:56,969 Hillary Clinton has Parkinson's 1666 01:07:56,971 --> 01:07:59,270 Disease, physician confirms. 1667 01:07:59,272 --> 01:08:00,740 You don't think that's misleading? 1668 01:08:00,742 --> 01:08:02,007 No. 1669 01:08:02,009 --> 01:08:05,010 He's projecting back at them what they do 1670 01:08:05,012 --> 01:08:08,114 in almost all their, but to an absurd 1671 01:08:08,116 --> 01:08:10,482 and almost offensive lever. 1672 01:08:10,484 --> 01:08:11,650 Hillary is a zombie. 1673 01:08:11,652 --> 01:08:12,584 What do you guys think? 1674 01:08:12,586 --> 01:08:13,919 You want to do a hashtag? 1675 01:08:13,921 --> 01:08:15,520 What do you think of zombie Hillary? 1676 01:08:15,522 --> 01:08:18,691 So what I am doing is am being a fun house mirror, 1677 01:08:18,693 --> 01:08:21,160 where you think that we're the monsters, 1678 01:08:21,162 --> 01:08:24,262 but really all we're doing is changing the wording 1679 01:08:24,264 --> 01:08:25,597 on things that you would actually say. 1680 01:08:25,599 --> 01:08:27,599 Hillary, all I know is that she is sick. 1681 01:08:27,601 --> 01:08:29,434 This is a very sick man. 1682 01:08:29,436 --> 01:08:31,036 He is truly very sick. 1683 01:08:31,038 --> 01:08:34,173 This is why we need Hillary's medical records. 1684 01:08:34,175 --> 01:08:36,341 How recently has he had a colonoscopy, 1685 01:08:36,343 --> 01:08:37,676 or other cancer tests? 1686 01:08:37,678 --> 01:08:39,544 John McCain's health was a big issue. 1687 01:08:39,546 --> 01:08:42,313 The media was all covering it, is John McCain healthy. 1688 01:08:42,315 --> 01:08:44,616 Everybody's been talking about Donald Trump's health. 1689 01:08:44,618 --> 01:08:46,317 Is this president of sound mind? 1690 01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:47,653 Whether it's a personality disorder, 1691 01:08:47,655 --> 01:08:48,654 or borderline personality. 1692 01:08:48,656 --> 01:08:50,790 He's not in control of himself. 1693 01:08:50,792 --> 01:08:52,490 Some people said he had mental health problems. 1694 01:08:52,492 --> 01:08:55,326 The New Republic said Donald Trump had syphilis. 1695 01:08:55,328 --> 01:08:57,395 "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump." 1696 01:08:57,397 --> 01:08:59,999 27 psychiatrists and mental health experts 1697 01:09:00,001 --> 01:09:01,233 assess a president. 1698 01:09:01,235 --> 01:09:03,334 So if you're a bunch of psychologists, 1699 01:09:03,336 --> 01:09:04,636 and you want to write a book 1700 01:09:04,638 --> 01:09:05,971 about a patient you've never seen, 1701 01:09:05,973 --> 01:09:07,973 the media will cover it and you'll be a best seller. 1702 01:09:07,975 --> 01:09:10,475 The book includes and validates 1703 01:09:10,477 --> 01:09:12,912 some of the general news media's speculation 1704 01:09:12,914 --> 01:09:15,214 about Donald Trump's mental capacity. 1705 01:09:15,216 --> 01:09:16,514 With Hillary's health, 1706 01:09:16,516 --> 01:09:17,883 I had a doctor who had never seen her, 1707 01:09:17,885 --> 01:09:18,984 and they remind me of that. 1708 01:09:18,986 --> 01:09:20,252 Well he never treated her. 1709 01:09:20,254 --> 01:09:21,586 That story was sourced 1710 01:09:21,588 --> 01:09:24,690 to an anesthesiologist who never met Clinton. 1711 01:09:24,692 --> 01:09:26,659 What is your take of all the doctors 1712 01:09:26,661 --> 01:09:28,160 and clinicians all across the country 1713 01:09:28,162 --> 01:09:29,929 who have said that in this president, 1714 01:09:29,931 --> 01:09:32,530 they see symptoms of this, that, and the other? 1715 01:09:32,532 --> 01:09:35,433 The duty to warn of ways 1716 01:09:35,435 --> 01:09:38,737 that the consideration that would normally apply, 1717 01:09:38,739 --> 01:09:40,840 which is I'm not gonna offer a public diagnosis 1718 01:09:40,842 --> 01:09:42,507 of a person I have not met. 1719 01:09:42,509 --> 01:09:43,742 But when it's a democrat, 1720 01:09:43,744 --> 01:09:45,610 there's now a new higher evidentiary standard 1721 01:09:45,612 --> 01:09:49,547 and we can't just talk about speculation and gossip. 1722 01:09:49,549 --> 01:09:50,950 The conspiracy du jour, 1723 01:09:50,952 --> 01:09:54,220 Hillary Clinton is harboring a secret medical condition. 1724 01:09:54,222 --> 01:09:55,688 The President of the United States 1725 01:09:55,690 --> 01:09:59,191 genuinely appears to be losing his grip on reality. 1726 01:09:59,193 --> 01:10:00,860 And that would be the fun house aspect. 1727 01:10:00,862 --> 01:10:02,761 It's get real. 1728 01:10:02,763 --> 01:10:04,129 They did it to McCain. 1729 01:10:04,131 --> 01:10:05,130 They did it to Trump. 1730 01:10:05,132 --> 01:10:06,397 We did it to Hillary. 1731 01:10:06,399 --> 01:10:08,033 They're just gonna have to get over that. 1732 01:10:08,035 --> 01:10:09,634 It's the exact same playbook 1733 01:10:09,636 --> 01:10:11,103 that these other journalists are doing, 1734 01:10:11,105 --> 01:10:16,108 and I think that sort of mimicry is very upsetting. 1735 01:10:16,110 --> 01:10:19,444 Which ties into the Scott Adams theory on two movies. 1736 01:10:19,446 --> 01:10:21,313 If you're Scott Peli, 1737 01:10:21,315 --> 01:10:22,882 you're watching a movie where 1738 01:10:22,884 --> 01:10:25,284 anybody who claims that Hillary Clinton had Parkinson's 1739 01:10:25,286 --> 01:10:27,753 is a complete and total conspiracy theorist. 1740 01:10:27,755 --> 01:10:30,057 If you're anybody else in America, 1741 01:10:31,325 --> 01:10:32,758 you're watching the movie where you see 1742 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,460 a very sick person having coughing fits, 1743 01:10:35,462 --> 01:10:37,096 having so called allergies, 1744 01:10:37,098 --> 01:10:38,396 falling down multiple times, 1745 01:10:38,398 --> 01:10:40,632 and then having a major seizure on 9-11. 1746 01:10:40,634 --> 01:10:42,101 And you're thinking, 1747 01:10:42,103 --> 01:10:44,737 they're calling Cernovich out for the Hillary's heath thing? 1748 01:10:44,739 --> 01:10:46,672 She had a seizure and froze up 1749 01:10:46,674 --> 01:10:48,608 walking into her motorcade. 1750 01:10:50,644 --> 01:10:52,510 Well, she had pneumonia, I mean... 1751 01:10:52,512 --> 01:10:53,312 How do you know? 1752 01:10:53,314 --> 01:10:54,512 Who told you that? 1753 01:10:54,514 --> 01:10:55,814 Well the campaign told us that. 1754 01:10:55,816 --> 01:10:57,182 Why would you trust a campaign? 1755 01:10:57,184 --> 01:10:58,483 The point is... 1756 01:10:58,485 --> 01:10:59,752 The camera didn't show there, 1757 01:10:59,754 --> 01:11:01,419 but he actually dropped his glasses. 1758 01:11:01,421 --> 01:11:03,756 He was so freaked out because 1759 01:11:03,758 --> 01:11:06,258 they're not used to somebody coming after them. 1760 01:11:06,260 --> 01:11:09,161 The whole power dynamic of I'm the media, 1761 01:11:09,163 --> 01:11:10,663 and I'm Scott Pely, and I'm 60 Minutes, 1762 01:11:10,665 --> 01:11:12,197 and we're just gonna interrogate you 1763 01:11:12,199 --> 01:11:13,832 and you're gonna give us what you want. 1764 01:11:13,834 --> 01:11:15,167 That doesn't even enter my mind. 1765 01:11:15,169 --> 01:11:17,435 I'm thinking how is this gonna look 1766 01:11:17,437 --> 01:11:19,504 when they edit that clip, and make memes, 1767 01:11:19,506 --> 01:11:20,940 and make viral videos. 1768 01:11:20,942 --> 01:11:24,843 Disingenuous sort of online posturing. 1769 01:11:24,845 --> 01:11:26,845 It might feel harmless, 1770 01:11:26,847 --> 01:11:28,681 and this might feel no different than 1771 01:11:28,683 --> 01:11:31,216 creating lolcat memes. 1772 01:11:31,218 --> 01:11:32,851 But these memes have real consequences 1773 01:11:32,853 --> 01:11:35,120 in the real world for real people. 1774 01:11:36,691 --> 01:11:39,892 This idea of fake news is sort of a misnomer, 1775 01:11:39,894 --> 01:11:42,861 because fake news creates real opinions, 1776 01:11:42,863 --> 01:11:45,364 which creates real actions. 1777 01:11:45,366 --> 01:11:49,301 And then we live with the real consequences of that, right? 1778 01:11:49,303 --> 01:11:53,504 No amount of reporting makes Pizzagate real. 1779 01:11:53,506 --> 01:11:55,975 But the bullet that goes through 1780 01:11:55,977 --> 01:11:58,509 that pizza shop is very real 1781 01:11:58,511 --> 01:12:02,715 and could've killed someone. 1782 01:12:02,717 --> 01:12:04,850 Pizzagate actually comes from 1783 01:12:04,852 --> 01:12:06,852 the Wikileaks release of hacked emails 1784 01:12:06,854 --> 01:12:09,355 from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. 1785 01:12:09,357 --> 01:12:10,723 And it was from those emails 1786 01:12:10,725 --> 01:12:12,358 that the claims that John Podesta 1787 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,694 may be part of a child sex trafficking ring come from. 1788 01:12:15,696 --> 01:12:17,896 Whenever the media talks about Pizzagate, 1789 01:12:17,898 --> 01:12:19,832 don't just look at what they bring up. 1790 01:12:19,834 --> 01:12:21,700 Look at what they don't bring up. 1791 01:12:21,702 --> 01:12:25,337 The Pizzagate, as it's now called a conspiracy theory, 1792 01:12:25,339 --> 01:12:28,539 actually originated in a Podesta email that's quite weird 1793 01:12:28,541 --> 01:12:30,676 and to this day is perplexing. 1794 01:12:30,678 --> 01:12:33,212 Where somebody told John Podesta, 1795 01:12:33,214 --> 01:12:35,948 you left a handkerchief on the counter. 1796 01:12:35,950 --> 01:12:37,515 There's a map on there. 1797 01:12:37,517 --> 01:12:39,420 Something pizza-related. 1798 01:12:41,621 --> 01:12:43,188 Who cares, a handkerchief? 1799 01:12:43,190 --> 01:12:45,024 Throw a handkerchief away. 1800 01:12:45,026 --> 01:12:46,792 You're gonna FedEx somebody a handkerchief? 1801 01:12:46,794 --> 01:12:48,626 That's so bizarre. 1802 01:12:48,628 --> 01:12:51,030 And then who writes a map on a handkerchief? 1803 01:12:51,032 --> 01:12:53,732 And then the map is something pizza-related. 1804 01:12:53,734 --> 01:12:54,632 That's bizarre. 1805 01:12:54,634 --> 01:12:56,135 That's code word for something. 1806 01:12:56,137 --> 01:12:57,970 Could be codes for drugs. 1807 01:12:57,972 --> 01:13:00,773 I don't know, but nobody in the media ever said, 1808 01:13:00,775 --> 01:13:03,541 hey dude, why would you have a handkerchief 1809 01:13:03,543 --> 01:13:05,543 with a map on it that's pizza-related, 1810 01:13:05,545 --> 01:13:06,812 and why would anybody think it's important enough 1811 01:13:06,814 --> 01:13:08,714 to send it to you? 1812 01:13:08,716 --> 01:13:11,884 Users of the anonymous online message board 4chan, 1813 01:13:11,886 --> 01:13:13,752 known for rogue political discussion, 1814 01:13:13,754 --> 01:13:16,221 suggested without any proof whatsoever 1815 01:13:16,223 --> 01:13:19,391 that the word pizza was code for child sex trafficking 1816 01:13:19,393 --> 01:13:20,959 at the restaurant. 1817 01:13:20,961 --> 01:13:22,795 The conspiracy theory quickly spread to Reddit, 1818 01:13:22,797 --> 01:13:25,764 and YouTube, feeding fake online news stories, 1819 01:13:25,766 --> 01:13:28,100 then jumping to Facebook and Twitter. 1820 01:13:28,102 --> 01:13:29,600 People on 4chan and 8chan, 1821 01:13:29,602 --> 01:13:31,804 they just post and they say, guys, 1822 01:13:31,806 --> 01:13:33,571 look at this, what the hell is this? 1823 01:13:33,573 --> 01:13:34,773 And then they just start connecting the dots. 1824 01:13:34,775 --> 01:13:36,008 And it's all public record. 1825 01:13:36,010 --> 01:13:37,642 It's all out there in the public domain. 1826 01:13:37,644 --> 01:13:39,445 And all they're doing is connecting the dots, 1827 01:13:39,447 --> 01:13:41,449 that the media wouldn't touch. 1828 01:13:42,582 --> 01:13:43,849 And the media wants you to believe 1829 01:13:43,851 --> 01:13:45,684 that you can't look at the stuff and say, 1830 01:13:45,686 --> 01:13:47,519 yeah, this is really weird. 1831 01:13:47,521 --> 01:13:48,787 This is really fucking weird. 1832 01:13:48,789 --> 01:13:50,923 The amazing thing about Pizzagate 1833 01:13:50,925 --> 01:13:54,660 is that if you start looking into the evidence for it, 1834 01:13:54,662 --> 01:13:56,095 it's really compelling. 1835 01:13:56,097 --> 01:13:58,497 Meaning that it's hard to imagine 1836 01:13:58,499 --> 01:14:00,699 that all of that evidence doesn't mean 1837 01:14:00,701 --> 01:14:05,706 what the Pizzagate conspiracy thought it meant. 1838 01:14:06,874 --> 01:14:09,308 But, it's also classic confirmation bias. 1839 01:14:09,310 --> 01:14:11,977 Yeah, there's another piece of evidence for my side. 1840 01:14:11,979 --> 01:14:13,278 Yeah, there's another one. 1841 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,281 Even though other people could look at it and just say, 1842 01:14:16,283 --> 01:14:18,050 what the hell are you talking about? 1843 01:14:18,052 --> 01:14:19,818 I don't see it. 1844 01:14:19,820 --> 01:14:21,153 The Pizzagate narrative, 1845 01:14:21,155 --> 01:14:24,990 as least as concerning Mr. Alefantis at Comet Ping Pong, 1846 01:14:24,992 --> 01:14:27,659 we have subsequently determined was based upon 1847 01:14:27,661 --> 01:14:30,529 what we now believe was an incorrect narrative. 1848 01:14:30,531 --> 01:14:31,964 We apologize. 1849 01:14:31,966 --> 01:14:33,465 To the extent our commentaries 1850 01:14:33,467 --> 01:14:35,400 could be considered as negative statements 1851 01:14:35,402 --> 01:14:38,036 about Mr. Alefantis or Comet Ping Pong. 1852 01:14:38,038 --> 01:14:40,506 We encourage you to hold us accountable, 1853 01:14:40,508 --> 01:14:43,242 because we improve when you do. 1854 01:14:43,244 --> 01:14:45,911 These, they call themselves Pizzagate researchers, 1855 01:14:45,913 --> 01:14:47,212 which I never was. 1856 01:14:47,214 --> 01:14:51,016 They have video after video, analyzing everything. 1857 01:14:51,018 --> 01:14:54,419 And somehow, it became about a pizza parlor. 1858 01:14:54,421 --> 01:14:56,655 The Comet Pizza shooting, by the way, 1859 01:14:56,657 --> 01:14:57,990 is a very sad thing, 1860 01:14:57,992 --> 01:14:59,558 and the shooter had no connection to me, 1861 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,560 he had never read my stuff. 1862 01:15:01,562 --> 01:15:03,996 The fake news media has claimed 1863 01:15:03,998 --> 01:15:06,331 that I propagated it and spread it and everything, 1864 01:15:06,333 --> 01:15:08,767 but they can never find me blaming 1865 01:15:08,769 --> 01:15:11,036 that pizza parlor for anything. 1866 01:15:11,038 --> 01:15:12,204 They can never find me blaming 1867 01:15:12,206 --> 01:15:14,273 the owner of that pizza parlor for anything. 1868 01:15:14,275 --> 01:15:18,377 But I was always focused on things that were real, 1869 01:15:18,379 --> 01:15:19,912 and that are bizarre. 1870 01:15:19,914 --> 01:15:22,214 You tweeted the Clintons were running a pedophilia ring. 1871 01:15:22,216 --> 01:15:24,082 It's been in emails all the time. 1872 01:15:24,084 --> 01:15:25,951 We just weren't able to see the code. 1873 01:15:25,953 --> 01:15:27,352 Yeah, I don't agree with that. 1874 01:15:27,354 --> 01:15:28,620 You don't agree with that? 1875 01:15:28,622 --> 01:15:29,888 I definitely don't think the Clintons 1876 01:15:29,890 --> 01:15:31,523 are personally running a pedophilia ring. 1877 01:15:31,525 --> 01:15:32,724 So why did you write it? 1878 01:15:32,726 --> 01:15:34,426 That was worded imprecisely. 1879 01:15:34,428 --> 01:15:36,128 - That was more... - Why did you write it then? 1880 01:15:36,130 --> 01:15:37,963 You can go back to 2004, 1881 01:15:37,965 --> 01:15:38,931 where there was a puff piece 1882 01:15:38,933 --> 01:15:41,266 written about Tony Podesta. 1883 01:15:41,268 --> 01:15:43,035 Washington Post and The Guardian had both 1884 01:15:43,037 --> 01:15:45,204 written pieces about what a great 1885 01:15:45,206 --> 01:15:47,039 avant-garde art collector he is. 1886 01:15:47,041 --> 01:15:48,240 And they say, oh, it's just art. 1887 01:15:48,242 --> 01:15:49,575 It's just modern art. 1888 01:15:49,577 --> 01:15:51,076 It's just art, don't worry about it. 1889 01:15:51,078 --> 01:15:52,811 It's kind of like, that's kind of a cop-out. 1890 01:15:52,813 --> 01:15:54,413 If it's art or not, it's screwed up. 1891 01:15:54,415 --> 01:15:56,748 For the vast majority of Americans, 1892 01:15:56,750 --> 01:15:58,116 they're gonna look into that and say, 1893 01:15:58,118 --> 01:15:59,718 that's weird stuff. 1894 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,721 Now, maybe Cernovich over-plays it. 1895 01:16:02,723 --> 01:16:05,891 Maybe he sensationalizes a little bit. 1896 01:16:05,893 --> 01:16:07,793 But the sentiment of it is, 1897 01:16:07,795 --> 01:16:09,127 these are very creepy people. 1898 01:16:09,129 --> 01:16:10,829 There's an email from the Wikileaks where 1899 01:16:10,831 --> 01:16:12,130 the Podestas talk about having 1900 01:16:12,132 --> 01:16:13,966 stayed in touch a Dennis Hastert. 1901 01:16:13,968 --> 01:16:15,968 Dennis Hastert was a long time family friend. 1902 01:16:15,970 --> 01:16:17,836 Dennis Hastert went to prison 1903 01:16:17,838 --> 01:16:19,438 for money laundering offenses 1904 01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:23,141 related to paying off his pedophile victims. 1905 01:16:23,143 --> 01:16:24,743 People that he had victimized 1906 01:16:24,745 --> 01:16:26,245 when they were young, underage. 1907 01:16:26,247 --> 01:16:28,146 Why are you still friends with Dennis Hastert? 1908 01:16:28,148 --> 01:16:30,983 He is a pedophile, he did go to prison. 1909 01:16:30,985 --> 01:16:33,452 The media didn't want to ask those questions. 1910 01:16:33,454 --> 01:16:35,854 And in a way, that's probably why, 1911 01:16:35,856 --> 01:16:37,956 Pizzagate probably got out of control 1912 01:16:37,958 --> 01:16:39,591 because the media actually refused to ask the questions. 1913 01:16:39,593 --> 01:16:42,662 The shooting incident shows how a fake news story 1914 01:16:42,664 --> 01:16:45,464 can lead to a real life threatening situation. 1915 01:16:45,466 --> 01:16:47,165 Devastating consequences. 1916 01:16:47,167 --> 01:16:48,533 Real world consequences. 1917 01:16:48,535 --> 01:16:50,102 I mean, it seemed to me as if 1918 01:16:50,104 --> 01:16:51,637 the media had been giving us marching orders. 1919 01:16:51,639 --> 01:16:52,971 Fake news, they insisted, 1920 01:16:52,973 --> 01:16:55,207 was an imminent threat to American democracy. 1921 01:16:55,209 --> 01:16:56,541 A threat to democracy. 1922 01:16:56,543 --> 01:16:58,678 The dangers to democracy are obvious. 1923 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,779 Who invented the phrase fake news 1924 01:17:00,781 --> 01:17:02,180 in its modern context? 1925 01:17:02,182 --> 01:17:03,815 Who wanted to control the information 1926 01:17:03,817 --> 01:17:06,285 we were receiving on the internet and on the news and why? 1927 01:17:06,287 --> 01:17:08,186 Fake news is a phrase 1928 01:17:08,188 --> 01:17:11,023 I had never ever ever heard in my life, 1929 01:17:11,025 --> 01:17:13,458 and I don't think any American had heard in their lives 1930 01:17:13,460 --> 01:17:16,163 until a month after the election. 1931 01:17:17,666 --> 01:17:19,531 And if you look, you can go on Google trends or something, 1932 01:17:19,533 --> 01:17:21,233 and you can type in fake news. 1933 01:17:21,235 --> 01:17:23,703 And you can see a chart for how many times 1934 01:17:23,705 --> 01:17:25,871 that phrase was mentioned on the internet. 1935 01:17:25,873 --> 01:17:30,409 But the chart has, you know, zero mentions ever. 1936 01:17:30,411 --> 01:17:32,179 And then all at once. 1937 01:17:33,247 --> 01:17:34,513 It skyrockets. 1938 01:17:34,515 --> 01:17:37,049 On September 13th, 2016, 1939 01:17:37,051 --> 01:17:39,918 a nonprofit called First Draft announced a partnership 1940 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,022 to tackle malicious hoaxes and fake news reports. 1941 01:17:44,024 --> 01:17:45,357 If you follow the money, 1942 01:17:45,359 --> 01:17:46,759 you often get a lot of answers to questions. 1943 01:17:46,761 --> 01:17:49,762 So I want to know who is behind the funding 1944 01:17:49,764 --> 01:17:51,764 for that nonprofit First Draft. 1945 01:17:51,766 --> 01:17:54,199 And its anti-fake news campaign. 1946 01:17:54,201 --> 01:17:57,436 It turns out the funding came from Google. 1947 01:17:57,438 --> 01:17:59,104 Google's parent company Alphabet 1948 01:17:59,106 --> 01:18:02,240 was headed at the time by a man name Eric Schmidt, 1949 01:18:02,242 --> 01:18:03,909 who happens to have devoted himself 1950 01:18:03,911 --> 01:18:05,745 to Hillary Clinton's election campaign, 1951 01:18:05,747 --> 01:18:08,180 offered himself up as a strategist to her campaign, 1952 01:18:08,182 --> 01:18:10,449 and is listed as her number one campaign donor 1953 01:18:10,451 --> 01:18:12,050 through his company, Alphabet. 1954 01:18:12,052 --> 01:18:14,754 So his company funded this nonprofit First Draft 1955 01:18:14,756 --> 01:18:17,222 around the start of the election cycle. 1956 01:18:17,224 --> 01:18:18,056 Why is that the case? 1957 01:18:18,058 --> 01:18:19,358 'Cause Google is a search engine. 1958 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,026 It's a tech company. 1959 01:18:21,028 --> 01:18:23,395 What's Google doing palling around with Hillary Clinton 1960 01:18:23,397 --> 01:18:24,731 and the state department and the government 1961 01:18:24,733 --> 01:18:26,898 and all these deep state people? 1962 01:18:26,900 --> 01:18:29,067 Was the whole anti-fake news campaign 1963 01:18:29,069 --> 01:18:31,603 an attempt to shape our views, 1964 01:18:31,605 --> 01:18:34,072 and limit our access to certain information 1965 01:18:34,074 --> 01:18:37,142 by labeling selected website and stories as fake 1966 01:18:37,144 --> 01:18:38,143 and controversial-izing them. 1967 01:18:38,145 --> 01:18:39,746 And it's totally a sign-up. 1968 01:18:39,748 --> 01:18:40,979 It's totally a sign-up. 1969 01:18:40,981 --> 01:18:43,148 Since the fake news meme got going, 1970 01:18:43,150 --> 01:18:45,917 Facebook started labeling certain news stories 1971 01:18:45,919 --> 01:18:48,086 from alternative media outlets fake news, 1972 01:18:48,088 --> 01:18:51,125 and so you know, if they can't ban the First Amendment 1973 01:18:52,226 --> 01:18:54,126 straight out right away, 1974 01:18:54,128 --> 01:18:56,161 they go for plan B, which is discredit anybody 1975 01:18:56,163 --> 01:18:57,462 that isn't themselves, 1976 01:18:57,464 --> 01:18:59,832 and to get them banned semi-legally 1977 01:18:59,834 --> 01:19:01,233 with stuff like Facebook. 1978 01:19:01,235 --> 01:19:03,803 Which is basically a monopoly at this point. 1979 01:19:03,805 --> 01:19:06,238 There are no real competitors to Facebook in this country, 1980 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:07,606 or Twitter, or Google. 1981 01:19:07,608 --> 01:19:11,410 If you get kicked off these big Silicon Valley platforms, 1982 01:19:11,412 --> 01:19:12,745 you're basically fucked. 1983 01:19:12,747 --> 01:19:14,781 Facebook and other social media sites 1984 01:19:14,783 --> 01:19:16,749 are being criticized for not doing enough 1985 01:19:16,751 --> 01:19:18,250 to stop bogus stories. 1986 01:19:18,252 --> 01:19:20,285 This week, social media giants 1987 01:19:20,287 --> 01:19:21,586 Facebook and Google 1988 01:19:21,588 --> 01:19:24,189 said they will go after hoax websites 1989 01:19:24,191 --> 01:19:26,291 by restricting ad revenue. 1990 01:19:26,293 --> 01:19:30,262 Almost 100% of our videos 1991 01:19:30,264 --> 01:19:33,198 are demonetized as a punishment 1992 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,268 for what we are politically doing. 1993 01:19:40,875 --> 01:19:44,509 So simultaneously, the corporate media demonizes us 1994 01:19:44,511 --> 01:19:46,278 for direct selling products, 1995 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,046 so we can fund our operation, 1996 01:19:48,048 --> 01:19:50,982 while Google had us banned off Google ads, 1997 01:19:50,984 --> 01:19:54,654 and while they have demonetized us 95% 1998 01:19:54,656 --> 01:19:56,321 for our political views. 1999 01:19:56,323 --> 01:19:58,858 So they want me to just go to the gulag, shut up, 2000 01:19:58,860 --> 01:20:01,460 go bankrupt, shut down, and stop having my speech. 2001 01:20:01,462 --> 01:20:02,728 And I'm not gonna do it. 2002 01:20:02,730 --> 01:20:04,529 I think the end game in America 2003 01:20:04,531 --> 01:20:07,365 is European-style hate speech laws. 2004 01:20:07,367 --> 01:20:09,201 A lot of people in America don't know this, 2005 01:20:09,203 --> 01:20:12,637 but in Germany and Sweden and the UK and in France, 2006 01:20:12,639 --> 01:20:15,340 you've had ordinary people go to prison 2007 01:20:15,342 --> 01:20:18,043 for making anti-immigration or anti-Islam 2008 01:20:18,045 --> 01:20:20,045 posts on Facebook. 2009 01:20:20,047 --> 01:20:22,314 Sweden should be a canary in the coal mine 2010 01:20:22,316 --> 01:20:24,149 for the rest of us. 2011 01:20:24,151 --> 01:20:26,218 The police have just warned us that if we don't leave now 2012 01:20:26,220 --> 01:20:27,419 and take this escort, 2013 01:20:27,421 --> 01:20:29,020 it's gonna get really bad really fast. 2014 01:20:29,022 --> 01:20:31,189 They said 50 people could be here in minutes, 2015 01:20:31,191 --> 01:20:32,357 and they recognize us. 2016 01:20:32,359 --> 01:20:33,391 They're masking up. 2017 01:20:33,393 --> 01:20:34,326 We have to leave. 2018 01:20:34,328 --> 01:20:35,862 And when I go to Stockholm, 2019 01:20:35,864 --> 01:20:38,430 and actually get escorted out by the police, 2020 01:20:38,432 --> 01:20:41,333 the media in Sweden claimed I wasn't 2021 01:20:41,335 --> 01:20:42,902 escorted out by the police. 2022 01:20:42,904 --> 01:20:46,404 Well, no, I have GoPro footage as I was walking out. 2023 01:20:46,406 --> 01:20:49,274 I took my Gimble and started filming the police behind me. 2024 01:20:49,276 --> 01:20:52,410 Yet the mainstream media, the Swedish media, 2025 01:20:52,412 --> 01:20:53,880 reported the police perspective 2026 01:20:53,882 --> 01:20:55,514 that I was wrong, that I was lying. 2027 01:20:55,516 --> 01:20:56,883 And then immediately started attacking me. 2028 01:20:56,885 --> 01:20:57,850 I started getting phone calls. 2029 01:20:57,852 --> 01:21:00,218 My phone would not stop ringing. 2030 01:21:00,220 --> 01:21:02,120 They started sharing my phone number with each other. 2031 01:21:02,122 --> 01:21:03,555 I kid you not. 2032 01:21:03,557 --> 01:21:06,057 And so I actually went on a national television program. 2033 01:21:06,059 --> 01:21:08,026 So welcome to Opinion Live. 2034 01:21:08,028 --> 01:21:09,261 They had scheduled me on this program 2035 01:21:09,263 --> 01:21:11,196 before I went to Rinkeby. 2036 01:21:11,198 --> 01:21:12,564 But when I went on, 2037 01:21:12,566 --> 01:21:14,232 they asked me to explain what happened in Rinkeby. 2038 01:21:14,234 --> 01:21:15,768 They first said that the police 2039 01:21:15,770 --> 01:21:18,403 have disputed my claims that I was escorted out, 2040 01:21:18,405 --> 01:21:20,372 and asked me to clarify, 2041 01:21:20,374 --> 01:21:24,209 to which I responded basically how I just did, 2042 01:21:24,211 --> 01:21:26,378 and she responded in Swedish, 2043 01:21:26,380 --> 01:21:28,213 instead of saying what I said, 2044 01:21:28,215 --> 01:21:30,282 she said, "He's talking about Rinkeby, 2045 01:21:30,284 --> 01:21:32,617 "but the police have disputed what he is saying, 2046 01:21:32,619 --> 01:21:34,219 "and say that he is lying." 2047 01:21:34,221 --> 01:21:36,087 They didn't even tell the audience what I said. 2048 01:21:36,089 --> 01:21:40,325 They just said I was a liar. 2049 01:21:40,327 --> 01:21:41,459 I have talked with people 2050 01:21:41,461 --> 01:21:43,295 who have visited Sweden on vacation, 2051 01:21:43,297 --> 01:21:44,931 and you know what they tell me? 2052 01:21:44,933 --> 01:21:46,832 They tell me it's the North Korea of the North. 2053 01:21:46,834 --> 01:21:49,167 One of the largest newspapers, Expressin, 2054 01:21:49,169 --> 01:21:53,605 hacked a comment system to find anonymous posters. 2055 01:21:53,607 --> 01:21:55,340 They find their names and addresses. 2056 01:21:55,342 --> 01:21:58,343 They go to the homes of private individuals, 2057 01:21:58,345 --> 01:22:00,111 film their faces, and accuse them 2058 01:22:00,113 --> 01:22:02,314 of being white supremacists. 2059 01:22:02,316 --> 01:22:04,449 Sure enough, these people lose their jobs. 2060 01:22:04,451 --> 01:22:05,517 They lose all their friends. 2061 01:22:05,519 --> 01:22:06,852 People are scared to interact with them. 2062 01:22:06,854 --> 01:22:09,354 Many people, it's not so much about being scared 2063 01:22:09,356 --> 01:22:10,288 to interact with them because 2064 01:22:10,290 --> 01:22:11,323 they don't like their opinions. 2065 01:22:11,325 --> 01:22:13,425 It's because they'll also get blacklisted. 2066 01:22:13,427 --> 01:22:14,760 They're gonna come after you, 2067 01:22:14,762 --> 01:22:16,461 and they're gonna try and whip up a hate mob 2068 01:22:16,463 --> 01:22:17,863 and get you fired from your job, 2069 01:22:17,865 --> 01:22:19,832 ostracized from your community. 2070 01:22:19,834 --> 01:22:21,433 They're gonna smear you. 2071 01:22:21,435 --> 01:22:22,668 They're gonna call you a neo-Nazi white supremacist. 2072 01:22:22,670 --> 01:22:24,436 They're gonna call you a conspiracy theorist. 2073 01:22:24,438 --> 01:22:26,338 They're gonna call you a Russian agent. 2074 01:22:26,340 --> 01:22:28,977 They're gonna do everything they can to shut you down. 2075 01:22:34,381 --> 01:22:37,016 And in the face of this unprecedented censorship, 2076 01:22:37,018 --> 01:22:39,184 we've only seen support grow. 2077 01:22:39,186 --> 01:22:40,518 That's why they lie worse than ever. 2078 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,855 That's why they're so hysterical. 2079 01:22:42,857 --> 01:22:44,389 It's why they're so angry, so hateful. 2080 01:22:44,391 --> 01:22:46,491 Then along came Donald Trump. 2081 01:22:46,493 --> 01:22:48,627 The wild card. 2082 01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:50,395 Probably the only politician that could have 2083 01:22:50,397 --> 01:22:52,330 or would have been able to change this dynamic 2084 01:22:52,332 --> 01:22:54,633 and kind of turn the campaign on its head. 2085 01:22:54,635 --> 01:22:57,737 Each time advocates cried fake news, 2086 01:22:57,739 --> 01:23:00,305 Donald Trump called them fake news. 2087 01:23:00,307 --> 01:23:01,707 We were able to turn fake news 2088 01:23:01,709 --> 01:23:03,375 back on them almost instantly. 2089 01:23:03,377 --> 01:23:04,844 Of course with the help of 2090 01:23:04,846 --> 01:23:07,212 President Doctor Donald J. Trump, PhD, 2091 01:23:07,214 --> 01:23:08,580 which is what I call him now. 2092 01:23:08,582 --> 01:23:10,482 Because he started calling the mainstream media fake news. 2093 01:23:10,484 --> 01:23:11,516 Since you are attacking 2094 01:23:11,518 --> 01:23:12,818 - our news organization. - No, not you, not you. 2095 01:23:12,820 --> 01:23:14,053 Can you give us a chance? 2096 01:23:14,055 --> 01:23:14,987 Your organization is terrible. 2097 01:23:14,989 --> 01:23:15,955 You're attacking, President elect, 2098 01:23:15,957 --> 01:23:17,355 - can you give us a question? - Don't be rude. 2099 01:23:17,357 --> 01:23:18,323 You're attacking us. 2100 01:23:18,325 --> 01:23:19,557 - Can you give us a question? - Don't be rude. 2101 01:23:19,559 --> 01:23:21,192 - Can you give us a question? - No I'm not gonna 2102 01:23:21,194 --> 01:23:22,028 give you a question. 2103 01:23:22,030 --> 01:23:22,995 I'm not gonna give you a question. 2104 01:23:22,997 --> 01:23:23,896 Can you state categorically... 2105 01:23:23,898 --> 01:23:24,764 You are fake news. 2106 01:23:24,766 --> 01:23:25,931 The news is fake. 2107 01:23:25,933 --> 01:23:27,232 Fake media, the failing New York Times. 2108 01:23:27,234 --> 01:23:28,034 Fake news. 2109 01:23:28,036 --> 01:23:29,200 Very fake news. 2110 01:23:29,202 --> 01:23:30,402 They should be ashamed of themselves. 2111 01:23:31,338 --> 01:23:32,404 Watch how the crowd. 2112 01:23:32,406 --> 01:23:33,505 Donald Trump is... 2113 01:23:33,507 --> 01:23:34,940 You know I've been hearing more and more 2114 01:23:34,942 --> 01:23:36,508 about a thing called fake news. 2115 01:23:36,510 --> 01:23:38,110 But I will tell you, some of the media outlets 2116 01:23:38,112 --> 01:23:40,211 that I deal with are fake news. 2117 01:23:44,551 --> 01:23:45,350 Look at this! 2118 01:23:45,352 --> 01:23:46,418 President Trump... 2119 01:23:46,420 --> 01:23:48,087 And so as soon as they introduced the idea 2120 01:23:48,089 --> 01:23:49,789 that news can be fake, 2121 01:23:49,791 --> 01:23:51,589 it was turned against them almost immediately. 2122 01:23:53,593 --> 01:23:55,193 The ring just imploded! 2123 01:23:55,195 --> 01:23:56,729 The official presidential tweet 2124 01:23:56,731 --> 01:23:58,731 is an old wrestling video takedown 2125 01:23:58,733 --> 01:24:00,432 with businessman Trump, 2126 01:24:00,434 --> 01:24:02,534 doctored with the CNN logo 2127 01:24:02,536 --> 01:24:04,271 covering the face of his victim. 2128 01:24:05,472 --> 01:24:08,874 When Trump posted the CNN of wrestling meme, 2129 01:24:08,876 --> 01:24:10,308 it was absolutely hilarious. 2130 01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:11,443 It was great. 2131 01:24:11,445 --> 01:24:12,745 Memes are funny. 2132 01:24:12,747 --> 01:24:13,946 There's really no other way to put it. 2133 01:24:13,948 --> 01:24:16,448 Memes are fucking hilarious. 2134 01:24:16,450 --> 01:24:18,550 Anonymous internet memes are for a lot of people 2135 01:24:18,552 --> 01:24:21,553 the only way to get exposed to what's the truth. 2136 01:24:21,555 --> 01:24:22,922 And the reason people are anonymous 2137 01:24:22,924 --> 01:24:24,123 and why it's so powerful is because 2138 01:24:24,125 --> 01:24:25,390 if you're not anonymous, 2139 01:24:25,392 --> 01:24:27,960 and you don't have fuck you money basically, 2140 01:24:27,962 --> 01:24:29,427 the media is gonna come after you, 2141 01:24:29,429 --> 01:24:32,397 like they came after the guy who posted 2142 01:24:32,399 --> 01:24:35,067 the CNN wrestling meme that Donald Trump tweeted. 2143 01:24:35,069 --> 01:24:37,635 Did you just see this Trump thing, the CNN thing? 2144 01:24:37,637 --> 01:24:39,604 CNN tracked down the dude 2145 01:24:39,606 --> 01:24:41,506 who posted the Trump wrestling video. 2146 01:24:41,508 --> 01:24:43,308 They threatened to dox this kid. 2147 01:24:43,310 --> 01:24:44,910 CNN said they wouldn't publish the guy's name 2148 01:24:44,912 --> 01:24:46,511 'cause he had already apologized, 2149 01:24:46,513 --> 01:24:49,081 and also because he promised he wouldn't do it again. 2150 01:24:49,083 --> 01:24:51,516 But then CNN adds, they reserve the right 2151 01:24:51,518 --> 01:24:52,918 to publish his identity 2152 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,519 should any of that change. 2153 01:24:54,521 --> 01:24:56,254 Apparently the guy posted some pretty 2154 01:24:56,256 --> 01:24:58,657 bad stuff in the past, but come on CNN. 2155 01:24:58,659 --> 01:25:00,291 You're starting to creep us out. 2156 01:25:00,293 --> 01:25:01,593 I don't think they have a choice, 2157 01:25:01,595 --> 01:25:02,862 except to step it up. 2158 01:25:02,864 --> 01:25:05,798 Because we're really in an existential battle 2159 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:06,832 for the meaning of free speech 2160 01:25:06,834 --> 01:25:08,500 and for the meaning of truth. 2161 01:25:08,502 --> 01:25:10,301 People have gotten a very very skewed 2162 01:25:10,303 --> 01:25:11,804 line of free speech today. 2163 01:25:11,806 --> 01:25:13,371 The skewed definition. 2164 01:25:13,373 --> 01:25:16,608 They think that free speech and hate speech 2165 01:25:16,610 --> 01:25:19,178 are two different things. 2166 01:25:19,180 --> 01:25:20,545 Which it's absolutely not. 2167 01:25:20,547 --> 01:25:21,613 Hate speech is free speech. 2168 01:25:21,615 --> 01:25:22,848 It's the ability to express yourself, 2169 01:25:22,850 --> 01:25:25,217 whether someone finds it hateful or not. 2170 01:25:25,219 --> 01:25:26,618 My position is very simple. 2171 01:25:26,620 --> 01:25:28,856 There are just three genders. 2172 01:25:29,957 --> 01:25:31,623 There's man. 2173 01:25:31,625 --> 01:25:32,660 Woman. 2174 01:25:33,694 --> 01:25:34,559 And retarded. 2175 01:25:34,561 --> 01:25:36,195 You should be allowed to say 2176 01:25:36,197 --> 01:25:38,563 the most offensive things on Earth in free speech. 2177 01:25:38,565 --> 01:25:39,832 This young man is retarded. 2178 01:25:39,834 --> 01:25:41,700 America's first first man. 2179 01:25:41,702 --> 01:25:43,334 One self-proclaimed internet troll, 2180 01:25:43,336 --> 01:25:47,706 Milo Yiannopolis, tells us he's unapologetic and proud, 2181 01:25:47,708 --> 01:25:49,675 even after being banned from Twitter 2182 01:25:49,677 --> 01:25:51,643 for his infamous online taunting 2183 01:25:51,645 --> 01:25:54,246 of "Ghostbusters" star Leslie Jones. 2184 01:25:54,248 --> 01:25:55,647 In the Twitter storm that happened. 2185 01:25:55,649 --> 01:25:58,150 - Sure, I was mean. - You called her a dude. 2186 01:25:58,152 --> 01:25:59,384 I said it was a good job 2187 01:25:59,386 --> 01:26:00,653 there was a hot black dude in the movie. 2188 01:26:00,655 --> 01:26:02,021 She looks like a man. 2189 01:26:02,023 --> 01:26:04,522 I am entitled to say that I think a celebrity looks weird. 2190 01:26:04,524 --> 01:26:07,893 I feel like things are going even more and more 2191 01:26:07,895 --> 01:26:10,162 to each extreme. 2192 01:26:10,164 --> 01:26:11,764 Join us in protest! 2193 01:26:11,766 --> 01:26:13,565 And shut down Milo Yiannopolis. 2194 01:26:13,567 --> 01:26:15,333 Milo was touring the country for a bit, 2195 01:26:15,335 --> 01:26:16,902 and every place he went, 2196 01:26:16,904 --> 01:26:18,671 there was period blood being thrown. 2197 01:26:18,673 --> 01:26:20,673 There was girls screaming outside, 2198 01:26:20,675 --> 01:26:22,440 smashing garbage cans on the ground. 2199 01:26:22,442 --> 01:26:24,409 There were people trying to punch him on stage. 2200 01:26:24,411 --> 01:26:26,245 And then eventually, 2201 01:26:26,247 --> 01:26:28,783 liberals just took it to a whole new extreme. 2202 01:26:31,719 --> 01:26:36,288 And that was at Berkeley. 2203 01:26:44,932 --> 01:26:48,300 I was here this evening to speak at UC Berkeley. 2204 01:26:48,302 --> 01:26:50,602 I'm just sitting in a hotel room, stunned, 2205 01:26:50,604 --> 01:26:54,439 that hundreds of people were throwing rocks, 2206 01:26:54,441 --> 01:26:57,243 throwing goodness knows what else 2207 01:26:57,245 --> 01:26:59,111 at the building, throwing fireworks at the police. 2208 01:26:59,113 --> 01:27:01,247 Because they're so threatened by the idea 2209 01:27:01,249 --> 01:27:02,614 that a conservative speaker might be 2210 01:27:02,616 --> 01:27:04,250 persuasive and interesting and funny. 2211 01:27:04,252 --> 01:27:06,486 They just have to shut it down at all costs. 2212 01:27:07,755 --> 01:27:08,787 I'm a gay Trump supporter. 2213 01:27:08,789 --> 01:27:10,923 I wanted to go watch a gay Trump supporter. 2214 01:27:10,925 --> 01:27:13,728 I think Milo is absolutely hilarious. 2215 01:27:14,929 --> 01:27:16,662 We met up at a coffee shop across the street from Berkeley, 2216 01:27:16,664 --> 01:27:18,731 and I was just waiting for my friends to trickle in, 2217 01:27:18,733 --> 01:27:21,834 and it was just all these antifa people were already there. 2218 01:27:21,836 --> 01:27:24,336 So they're already kind of flirting 2219 01:27:24,338 --> 01:27:25,905 with the idea of violence. 2220 01:27:25,907 --> 01:27:28,473 So antifa was a group that was started 2221 01:27:28,475 --> 01:27:31,777 in the early 1900s in Germany, obviously, 2222 01:27:31,779 --> 01:27:33,946 as an anti-fascist group, 2223 01:27:33,948 --> 01:27:36,514 but they were the violent militant wing 2224 01:27:36,516 --> 01:27:38,918 of the Communist party in Germany. 2225 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,654 And as they continued on, 2226 01:27:41,656 --> 01:27:42,988 they still have the same message. 2227 01:27:42,990 --> 01:27:46,191 They're communists that believe in 2228 01:27:46,193 --> 01:27:48,794 destroying anything they deem to be fascism 2229 01:27:48,796 --> 01:27:50,963 through any means possible. 2230 01:27:50,965 --> 01:27:52,965 They're screaming hey fascists, hey Nazi. 2231 01:27:52,967 --> 01:27:54,767 I forget the particular slogans 2232 01:27:54,769 --> 01:27:56,534 that they're all chanting in unison. 2233 01:27:58,706 --> 01:28:00,773 The irony of it is because I was so naive, 2234 01:28:00,775 --> 01:28:01,641 I kind of, 2235 01:28:03,177 --> 01:28:06,345 I kind of thought that I could connect with these people 2236 01:28:06,347 --> 01:28:08,047 and say look, I don't support those things either, 2237 01:28:08,049 --> 01:28:08,981 and they would just immediately 2238 01:28:08,983 --> 01:28:10,783 understand and believe me. 2239 01:28:10,785 --> 01:28:12,550 But you know, symbols are more 2240 01:28:12,552 --> 01:28:14,353 powerful than words sometimes. 2241 01:28:14,355 --> 01:28:16,188 And you're wearing the wrong piece of clothing, 2242 01:28:16,190 --> 01:28:17,622 and it's just not gonna do. 2243 01:28:17,624 --> 01:28:18,857 I mean, props to them for the ones 2244 01:28:18,859 --> 01:28:19,858 who are doing it nonviolently, 2245 01:28:19,860 --> 01:28:21,293 but I think that's a very rare thing indeed. 2246 01:28:21,295 --> 01:28:22,527 So thank you. 2247 01:28:22,529 --> 01:28:24,462 Are you surprised? 2248 01:28:24,464 --> 01:28:25,831 Ma'am? 2249 01:28:25,833 --> 01:28:27,299 And then two minutes after that, 2250 01:28:27,301 --> 01:28:29,234 bare maced again. 2251 01:28:29,236 --> 01:28:30,736 Beat with flag poles. 2252 01:28:30,738 --> 01:28:32,738 My friend got put in the hospital. 2253 01:28:32,740 --> 01:28:35,142 And that actually didn't air anywhere. 2254 01:28:41,082 --> 01:28:42,081 That's wild. 2255 01:28:42,083 --> 01:28:43,481 Never reported in the media. 2256 01:28:44,452 --> 01:28:46,251 I have been wanting to have this conversation 2257 01:28:46,253 --> 01:28:47,252 because this has been a big issue 2258 01:28:47,254 --> 01:28:48,854 about free speech on campus 2259 01:28:48,856 --> 01:28:50,756 and conservative voices being heard. 2260 01:28:50,758 --> 01:28:52,257 Mr. Rice, my first question to you is, 2261 01:28:52,259 --> 01:28:53,659 is the violence that we saw, 2262 01:28:53,661 --> 01:28:54,693 this violence we saw at Berkeley. 2263 01:28:54,695 --> 01:28:56,862 We had it live here on CNN last night. 2264 01:28:56,864 --> 01:28:57,763 It ultimately, does it, 2265 01:28:57,765 --> 01:28:59,530 it plays right into the hands 2266 01:28:59,532 --> 01:29:01,767 of a right wing, white supremacist, 2267 01:29:01,769 --> 01:29:03,902 someone like Milo Yiannopolis. 2268 01:29:03,904 --> 01:29:05,838 Like I told the news woman over there that like 2269 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,706 specifically it was their narrative. 2270 01:29:07,708 --> 01:29:08,907 They were a part of this. 2271 01:29:08,909 --> 01:29:11,010 It was their narrative that was causing 2272 01:29:11,012 --> 01:29:12,277 the violence on the left. 2273 01:29:12,279 --> 01:29:13,611 This is not to remove personal responsibility 2274 01:29:13,613 --> 01:29:15,881 from the actual people that do the violence, 2275 01:29:15,883 --> 01:29:18,784 but they pretend to be objective. 2276 01:29:18,786 --> 01:29:20,386 And that's the part. 2277 01:29:20,388 --> 01:29:22,955 And they implant these ideas in your head, 2278 01:29:22,957 --> 01:29:24,589 and they'll say things like, 2279 01:29:24,591 --> 01:29:26,925 well some people call these people white nationalists. 2280 01:29:26,927 --> 01:29:28,761 Do they ask any of the people there? 2281 01:29:28,763 --> 01:29:31,130 No, because that would actually be real journalism. 2282 01:29:31,132 --> 01:29:32,731 The real problem is this name calling 2283 01:29:32,733 --> 01:29:35,134 because you know, as grateful as I am to be on the show 2284 01:29:35,136 --> 01:29:36,468 and I like the attention, 2285 01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:37,870 the real people that I want to hear from 2286 01:29:37,872 --> 01:29:40,439 are the guys who run CNN 2287 01:29:40,441 --> 01:29:42,875 who are legitimizing ordinary conservatives 2288 01:29:42,877 --> 01:29:45,477 being called white supremacists, anti-Semites, 2289 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:46,912 racist, sexist, when they're not. 2290 01:29:46,914 --> 01:29:49,580 There's an inevitable obvious consequence. 2291 01:29:49,582 --> 01:29:51,984 The things that had been said about Donald Trump 2292 01:29:51,986 --> 01:29:54,552 led to extreme violence. 2293 01:29:55,956 --> 01:29:56,922 In Donald Trump's America, 2294 01:29:56,924 --> 01:29:58,490 everyone is speculating as to who 2295 01:29:58,492 --> 01:29:59,892 should be the most afraid. 2296 01:29:59,894 --> 01:30:01,293 Black people, Latinos. 2297 01:30:01,295 --> 01:30:03,495 We gravel every day with that it means 2298 01:30:03,497 --> 01:30:05,798 to have a president stained by racism. 2299 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:06,765 You voted Trump! 2300 01:30:06,767 --> 01:30:07,933 You voted Trump! 2301 01:30:07,935 --> 01:30:09,301 I'm just gonna be honest. 2302 01:30:09,303 --> 01:30:11,003 We think there might be a Nazi in the White House. 2303 01:30:11,005 --> 01:30:12,938 He is a bigot, he is a racist, 2304 01:30:12,940 --> 01:30:14,506 he is a misogynist. 2305 01:30:14,508 --> 01:30:16,942 The president's crude and arguably racist remarks. 2306 01:30:16,944 --> 01:30:18,677 The president has racist views. 2307 01:30:20,014 --> 01:30:21,346 I'm a Bernie supporter, but they attacked me. 2308 01:30:21,348 --> 01:30:22,548 Who did? 2309 01:30:22,550 --> 01:30:23,982 They did, they thought I was a Trump support, I wasn't. 2310 01:30:23,984 --> 01:30:26,985 Tens of millions of people voted for him 2311 01:30:26,987 --> 01:30:30,022 after he showed his cards, for years. 2312 01:30:30,024 --> 01:30:32,524 Are you suggesting that they're racist? 2313 01:30:32,526 --> 01:30:33,826 Absolutely, yes. 2314 01:30:33,828 --> 01:30:35,427 That is pure racism. 2315 01:30:35,429 --> 01:30:38,030 And the president is cynically using 2316 01:30:38,032 --> 01:30:42,000 that racism to appeal to his base. 2317 01:30:42,002 --> 01:30:43,836 If everyone is a white supremacist, 2318 01:30:43,838 --> 01:30:45,971 what does that even mean anymore, you know? 2319 01:30:45,973 --> 01:30:48,207 Are you just gonna accuse anyone who disagrees with you? 2320 01:30:48,209 --> 01:30:50,676 I have people who tell me that I'm a Nazi sympathizer 2321 01:30:50,678 --> 01:30:52,478 for being friends with Trump supporters, 2322 01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:54,480 or that I'm a racist. 2323 01:30:54,482 --> 01:30:56,348 And I'm actually a mixed race person. 2324 01:30:56,350 --> 01:30:58,283 It's like nuance has gone out the window, 2325 01:30:58,285 --> 01:30:59,785 and none of it matters anymore. 2326 01:30:59,787 --> 01:31:01,153 Say you worked in a loony bin, 2327 01:31:01,155 --> 01:31:02,221 and there was this one guy going, 2328 01:31:02,223 --> 01:31:03,655 the Khmer Rouge are coming! 2329 01:31:03,657 --> 01:31:04,690 The Khmer Rouge are coming! 2330 01:31:04,692 --> 01:31:06,191 Polpot is upstairs. 2331 01:31:06,193 --> 01:31:07,860 The Khmer Rouge are gonna invade here. 2332 01:31:07,862 --> 01:31:10,162 We gotta stop the communists in Cambodia. 2333 01:31:10,164 --> 01:31:12,531 And you go, alright, Mr. McGuillocuddy, it's okay. 2334 01:31:12,533 --> 01:31:13,966 And you'd lead him to his room. 2335 01:31:13,968 --> 01:31:16,401 And you go, he was bitching about the Khmer Rouge again. 2336 01:31:16,403 --> 01:31:18,737 That's the way the media is with Nazis. 2337 01:31:18,739 --> 01:31:21,140 They see Nazis in their soup, they're everywhere. 2338 01:31:21,142 --> 01:31:22,908 Now we have Nazi panic, 2339 01:31:22,910 --> 01:31:24,877 where even if you're a girl, they'll hit you. 2340 01:31:24,879 --> 01:31:26,478 It doesn't really matter. 2341 01:31:26,480 --> 01:31:27,913 That's what the media does. 2342 01:31:27,915 --> 01:31:30,916 There has been far more violence by antifa 2343 01:31:30,918 --> 01:31:33,352 against people they don't agree with, 2344 01:31:33,354 --> 01:31:34,920 especially Trump supporters, 2345 01:31:34,922 --> 01:31:37,156 than there has been violence by Trump supporters. 2346 01:31:37,158 --> 01:31:40,025 But the media covers up violence by antifa. 2347 01:31:40,027 --> 01:31:42,427 I've reported from the White House several times, 2348 01:31:42,429 --> 01:31:44,997 and on one visit, after the White House press 2349 01:31:44,999 --> 01:31:47,833 briefing had concluded, I looked over at 2350 01:31:47,835 --> 01:31:49,568 the assembled journalists and I said, 2351 01:31:49,570 --> 01:31:51,003 why will nobody here cover the violence 2352 01:31:51,005 --> 01:31:52,571 against Trump supporters? 2353 01:31:52,573 --> 01:31:54,006 And why won't you demand that leaders 2354 01:31:54,008 --> 01:31:57,075 of the democrats disavow the violence of antifa 2355 01:31:57,077 --> 01:31:59,011 the way you demanded Trump disavow 2356 01:31:59,013 --> 01:32:01,246 violence from his supporters? 2357 01:32:01,248 --> 01:32:03,348 This has been completely covered up. 2358 01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:04,251 They laughed at me. 2359 01:32:05,719 --> 01:32:07,085 They thought that I would care, 2360 01:32:07,087 --> 01:32:08,520 but their laughter actually proved 2361 01:32:08,522 --> 01:32:09,955 what I wanted to prove. 2362 01:32:09,957 --> 01:32:11,757 I wanted them to laugh at me. 2363 01:32:11,759 --> 01:32:13,058 Because then I could show people, 2364 01:32:13,060 --> 01:32:14,259 hey, this is what the media is all about. 2365 01:32:14,261 --> 01:32:16,195 They laugh at violence against people 2366 01:32:16,197 --> 01:32:17,696 if they don't like you. 2367 01:32:17,698 --> 01:32:19,898 It's also not surprising that the right, 2368 01:32:19,900 --> 01:32:22,601 in a sense, retaliated, came back out, 2369 01:32:22,603 --> 01:32:27,608 held more events, to counter this use of violence by antifa. 2370 01:32:28,809 --> 01:32:30,609 We saw the rise of the base stick man. 2371 01:32:30,611 --> 01:32:33,145 You know, there's a video of him cracking a stick 2372 01:32:33,147 --> 01:32:35,981 over this antifa member's head. 2373 01:32:35,983 --> 01:32:37,583 And right then I'm like, 2374 01:32:37,585 --> 01:32:38,884 antifa is going to double down, 2375 01:32:38,886 --> 01:32:39,918 and they're gonna go nuts. 2376 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:40,919 And that's where we saw antifa 2377 01:32:40,921 --> 01:32:43,055 throwing explosives into the crowd. 2378 01:32:43,057 --> 01:32:44,925 M80, M80! 2379 01:32:45,926 --> 01:32:47,259 Somebody from the antifa side 2380 01:32:47,261 --> 01:32:49,094 just threw an M80 into the crowd. 2381 01:32:49,096 --> 01:32:51,063 We heard a guy got stabbed in the chest. 2382 01:32:51,065 --> 01:32:52,464 The bike lock basher Eric Clampton 2383 01:32:52,466 --> 01:32:54,900 hit seven people over the head with a bike lock. 2384 01:32:56,804 --> 01:32:57,603 Mother fucker! 2385 01:32:57,605 --> 01:32:58,904 If you were asking me, 2386 01:32:58,906 --> 01:33:00,140 I'd say that was an attempt to murder. 2387 01:33:01,609 --> 01:33:04,977 I guess, you know, it's sadly predictable. 2388 01:33:04,979 --> 01:33:06,679 That's the scary thing, you know. 2389 01:33:06,681 --> 01:33:08,480 And it looks like things are gonna escalate, 2390 01:33:08,482 --> 01:33:09,748 'cause nobody's gonna back down. 2391 01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:11,817 And this is just the beginning. 2392 01:33:11,819 --> 01:33:13,118 Just the beginning, dude. 2393 01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,088 We're gonna come to every liberal stronghold, 2394 01:33:16,090 --> 01:33:19,024 every city, fucking Portland, Detroit. 2395 01:33:19,026 --> 01:33:22,160 All you cock suckers in fucking Boston, watch out. 2396 01:33:22,162 --> 01:33:23,128 We're coming for you. 2397 01:33:23,130 --> 01:33:25,998 The area for rational discussion, 2398 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,033 as that disappears more, 2399 01:33:28,035 --> 01:33:30,035 I think more people are going to be radicalized 2400 01:33:30,037 --> 01:33:31,704 to both extremes and think violence 2401 01:33:31,706 --> 01:33:35,540 is an acceptable way of protesting 2402 01:33:35,542 --> 01:33:38,377 their distaste for other peoples opinions. 2403 01:33:54,161 --> 01:33:57,629 Imagine that your belief systems 2404 01:33:57,631 --> 01:33:59,231 are essentially maps of the world 2405 01:33:59,233 --> 01:34:02,002 that you use to orient yourself with. 2406 01:34:02,803 --> 01:34:04,202 News informs you. 2407 01:34:04,204 --> 01:34:07,005 If it's real news, it updates your map. 2408 01:34:07,007 --> 01:34:09,808 It brings you into alignment better. 2409 01:34:09,810 --> 01:34:10,842 There should be an alignment 2410 01:34:10,844 --> 01:34:12,544 between you and the world. 2411 01:34:12,546 --> 01:34:14,179 If you're properly informed. 2412 01:34:14,181 --> 01:34:16,181 Handed almost unlimited power 2413 01:34:16,183 --> 01:34:18,917 to a fascist wannabe. 2414 01:34:18,919 --> 01:34:21,420 Arrogant people, resentful people, 2415 01:34:21,422 --> 01:34:24,726 believe that deception works. 2416 01:34:29,029 --> 01:34:30,331 That's just not the case. 2417 01:34:33,500 --> 01:34:35,067 When you act out a falsehood, 2418 01:34:35,069 --> 01:34:36,535 then something terrible happens. 2419 01:34:36,537 --> 01:34:39,206 That's the definition of a falsehood fundamentally. 2420 01:34:40,207 --> 01:34:41,942 Falsehoods have consequences. 2421 01:34:43,077 --> 01:34:44,845 That's what makes them false. 2422 01:34:45,946 --> 01:34:47,948 And you can not believe that, it's fine. 2423 01:34:49,249 --> 01:34:51,753 You can even get away with it for some period of time. 2424 01:34:53,253 --> 01:34:57,122 But you're not gonna get away with it for very long. 2425 01:35:01,895 --> 01:35:03,095 The latest developments 2426 01:35:03,097 --> 01:35:05,732 in the shooting of a Republican congressman and others 2427 01:35:05,734 --> 01:35:08,200 at a baseball practice outside of Washington. 2428 01:35:08,202 --> 01:35:10,602 Congressman Steve Scalise has been shot. 2429 01:35:10,604 --> 01:35:12,973 Apparently deliberately targeting the GOP. 2430 01:35:15,309 --> 01:35:17,142 There was a shooting by a Bernie Sanders supporter 2431 01:35:17,144 --> 01:35:18,745 and pro-antifa person 2432 01:35:18,747 --> 01:35:21,213 at a congressional baseball practice 2433 01:35:21,215 --> 01:35:22,614 called the Scalise shooting now. 2434 01:35:22,616 --> 01:35:24,316 He cursed President Trump, 2435 01:35:24,318 --> 01:35:26,385 labeled the president a traitor, 2436 01:35:26,387 --> 01:35:29,488 and called for his destruction in several Facebook posts. 2437 01:35:29,490 --> 01:35:30,790 And then the mainstream media, 2438 01:35:30,792 --> 01:35:31,758 they acted like they really cared. 2439 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,091 Oh, they really cared. 2440 01:35:33,093 --> 01:35:34,393 The shooter died from his injuries 2441 01:35:34,395 --> 01:35:36,061 after the shootout with capital police. 2442 01:35:36,063 --> 01:35:39,431 News that we first were told by President Trump himself 2443 01:35:39,433 --> 01:35:42,300 who had a somber and reflective 2444 01:35:42,302 --> 01:35:43,836 message for the nation. 2445 01:35:43,838 --> 01:35:44,804 No, the people know. 2446 01:35:44,806 --> 01:35:46,304 The people watch them laughed 2447 01:35:46,306 --> 01:35:48,306 when they were asked about violence. 2448 01:35:48,308 --> 01:35:50,609 They know that the media wants more shootings. 2449 01:35:50,611 --> 01:35:52,411 Obviously everybody is wishing the congressman well 2450 01:35:52,413 --> 01:35:54,279 - and hoping that he recovers. - Sure, sure. 2451 01:35:54,281 --> 01:35:55,947 But Steve Scalise has a history 2452 01:35:55,949 --> 01:35:59,985 that we've all been forced to sort of ignore on race. 2453 01:35:59,987 --> 01:36:02,421 He did come to leadership after some controversy 2454 01:36:02,423 --> 01:36:05,290 over attending a white nationalist event. 2455 01:36:05,292 --> 01:36:06,625 They want people to get shot, 2456 01:36:06,627 --> 01:36:08,828 because they act as a propaganda arm for antifa, 2457 01:36:08,830 --> 01:36:10,595 which is a domestic terrorist group, 2458 01:36:10,597 --> 01:36:12,698 under investigation by the FBI, 2459 01:36:12,700 --> 01:36:14,801 and they laugh at violence against people 2460 01:36:14,803 --> 01:36:16,301 they don't agree with politically. 2461 01:36:16,303 --> 01:36:17,837 The New York Times interviewed 2462 01:36:17,839 --> 01:36:19,872 the suspect's brother, who said the 66 year old 2463 01:36:19,874 --> 01:36:22,607 was upset over the election of President Trump. 2464 01:36:22,609 --> 01:36:25,780 And went to Washington within the last few weeks to protest. 2465 01:36:28,716 --> 01:36:31,717 Our axiomatic systems orient us in the world 2466 01:36:31,719 --> 01:36:34,019 and regulate our emotions. 2467 01:36:34,021 --> 01:36:35,220 Donald J. Trump is now 2468 01:36:35,222 --> 01:36:36,988 President of the United States. 2469 01:36:36,990 --> 01:36:38,523 No! 2470 01:36:38,525 --> 01:36:42,795 So when something axiomatically impossible happens, 2471 01:36:42,797 --> 01:36:45,731 people are going to scramble to find reasons 2472 01:36:45,733 --> 01:36:48,333 that don't require retooling of their world view. 2473 01:36:48,335 --> 01:36:51,036 And it's no wonder 'cause they're avoiding, 2474 01:36:51,038 --> 01:36:52,337 in archetypal terms, 2475 01:36:52,339 --> 01:36:55,207 they're avoiding an involuntary dissent to the underworld. 2476 01:36:55,209 --> 01:36:56,376 And even to hell. 2477 01:36:57,544 --> 01:36:58,878 That's also why people fight so hard 2478 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,979 to protect not only their belief systems, 2479 01:37:00,981 --> 01:37:02,547 but their social systems. 2480 01:37:02,549 --> 01:37:05,584 Often, that means accusing someone else. 2481 01:37:05,586 --> 01:37:06,754 Trump is a Nazi! 2482 01:37:07,755 --> 01:37:09,988 Trump is a Nazi! 2483 01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:12,157 Because then they have to change in our view. 2484 01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:13,358 Trump's a racist! 2485 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,093 Trump's a racist! 2486 01:37:15,095 --> 01:37:18,530 A world view adjustment is a major revolution, 2487 01:37:18,532 --> 01:37:20,198 and you may not recover from it. 2488 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:21,834 It just might do you in. 2489 01:37:21,836 --> 01:37:23,669 Or maybe you're chronically depressed. 2490 01:37:23,671 --> 01:37:25,738 And so when you dig down and you have to 2491 01:37:25,740 --> 01:37:27,105 restructure those axioms, 2492 01:37:27,107 --> 01:37:29,274 not only do you have to encounter 2493 01:37:29,276 --> 01:37:33,046 the unknown as such, which is no joke, 2494 01:37:33,948 --> 01:37:35,915 but you may also have to discover 2495 01:37:35,917 --> 01:37:37,549 your own malevolence. 2496 01:37:37,551 --> 01:37:40,753 Well, it's no wonder people turn away from that. 2497 01:37:40,755 --> 01:37:41,754 It's not surprising at all. 2498 01:37:41,756 --> 01:37:43,290 And everyone is like that. 2499 01:37:44,258 --> 01:37:46,458 And this is why I'm no fan of ideologies, 2500 01:37:46,460 --> 01:37:50,028 generally speaking, because they place a mask of virtue 2501 01:37:50,030 --> 01:37:53,900 over a dark set of motivations. 2502 01:37:53,902 --> 01:37:55,200 And then you can tolerate 2503 01:37:55,202 --> 01:37:56,804 looking at yourself in the mirror. 2504 01:37:58,071 --> 01:37:59,739 Well there's plenty of motivation to falsify, 2505 01:37:59,741 --> 01:38:03,443 but it's a bad idea. 2506 01:38:04,311 --> 01:38:06,311 You live out the falsifications, 2507 01:38:06,313 --> 01:38:09,283 and the world hit you. 2508 01:38:10,117 --> 01:38:11,416 We begin with breaking news 2509 01:38:11,418 --> 01:38:12,919 from Charlottesville, Virginia, 2510 01:38:12,921 --> 01:38:14,386 where two people have been injured 2511 01:38:14,388 --> 01:38:16,323 in an altercation with protestors 2512 01:38:17,157 --> 01:38:18,423 who were out in force 2513 01:38:18,425 --> 01:38:21,761 over the planned removal of a Confederate statue. 2514 01:38:21,763 --> 01:38:23,161 Watch this. 2515 01:38:24,431 --> 01:38:28,133 So my opinion of the race-baiting that's going on, 2516 01:38:28,135 --> 01:38:31,904 and my opinion of the portrayal of the social strife 2517 01:38:31,906 --> 01:38:34,172 and the neo-Nazis and et cetera 2518 01:38:34,174 --> 01:38:37,442 is another example of a business model 2519 01:38:37,444 --> 01:38:40,947 by the mainstream cable news networks and media 2520 01:38:40,949 --> 01:38:44,951 to try to create an environment of discontent. 2521 01:38:44,953 --> 01:38:46,451 What happened over the weekend 2522 01:38:46,453 --> 01:38:49,122 in Charlottesville, Virginia was just disgusting. 2523 01:38:50,290 --> 01:38:51,691 I was watching the news like everyone else. 2524 01:38:54,494 --> 01:38:56,294 And you see Nazi flags and torches 2525 01:38:56,296 --> 01:38:57,697 and white supremacists. 2526 01:38:57,699 --> 01:39:00,833 Hate no longer hides behind hoods. 2527 01:39:00,835 --> 01:39:02,534 I was sick to my stomach. 2528 01:39:02,536 --> 01:39:05,303 And by the way, I have nothing but disdain for Nazis. 2529 01:39:05,305 --> 01:39:08,440 Is this guy wearing a Hitler shirt? 2530 01:39:08,442 --> 01:39:09,709 Yes he is. 2531 01:39:09,711 --> 01:39:11,343 I think the whole Charlottesville thing, 2532 01:39:11,345 --> 01:39:13,045 I don't think, you have to have a zero tolerance 2533 01:39:13,047 --> 01:39:14,546 policy on Nazis. 2534 01:39:14,548 --> 01:39:16,649 But I think that they're a very very small 2535 01:39:16,651 --> 01:39:19,284 portion of the population, 2536 01:39:19,286 --> 01:39:22,520 and if this was the 1960s, 70s, or 80s, 2537 01:39:22,522 --> 01:39:24,724 objectively they wouldn't be worthy enough 2538 01:39:24,726 --> 01:39:27,325 of the news standing that they're getting right now. 2539 01:39:27,327 --> 01:39:31,630 I think that the media will gin up controversy, 2540 01:39:31,632 --> 01:39:34,066 take things and blow them out of proportion 2541 01:39:34,068 --> 01:39:35,333 to gin up ratings. 2542 01:39:35,335 --> 01:39:37,535 It glues people, it's addictive. 2543 01:39:40,374 --> 01:39:41,741 Of course everyone today 2544 01:39:41,743 --> 01:39:43,408 is talking about the latest events 2545 01:39:43,410 --> 01:39:47,013 that just unfolded in Charlottesville, Virginia. 2546 01:39:47,015 --> 01:39:48,981 Today we have a very special guest 2547 01:39:48,983 --> 01:39:50,382 who was there on the ground. 2548 01:39:50,384 --> 01:39:53,485 Basically there was all of the Unite the Right 2549 01:39:53,487 --> 01:39:56,354 type people in the area that they were sort of 2550 01:39:56,356 --> 01:39:57,857 designated to be in. 2551 01:39:57,859 --> 01:40:01,060 And police mostly had a hands-off approach. 2552 01:40:01,062 --> 01:40:03,095 They had set up barricades 2553 01:40:03,097 --> 01:40:06,498 between that and then the outside protestors 2554 01:40:06,500 --> 01:40:07,432 who were basically supposed to stay 2555 01:40:07,434 --> 01:40:09,534 outside of the park. 2556 01:40:09,536 --> 01:40:11,369 The problem is that of course, 2557 01:40:11,371 --> 01:40:14,572 the ring wingers have to walk through those protestors 2558 01:40:14,574 --> 01:40:16,574 in order to get into the park. 2559 01:40:16,576 --> 01:40:18,044 And so most of the violence occurred 2560 01:40:18,046 --> 01:40:19,411 kind of at that peripheral. 2561 01:40:19,413 --> 01:40:21,747 As we've seen from other events like in Berkeley, 2562 01:40:21,749 --> 01:40:22,614 where there was police, 2563 01:40:22,616 --> 01:40:24,249 and they left the scene, 2564 01:40:24,251 --> 01:40:27,452 and let these two sides fight each other. 2565 01:40:27,454 --> 01:40:29,256 Hey, how come you guys are hanging back? 2566 01:40:32,259 --> 01:40:34,359 That would be a good question for the chief of police. 2567 01:40:34,361 --> 01:40:35,861 What did you see on the ground, 2568 01:40:35,863 --> 01:40:36,896 and how do you think the police 2569 01:40:36,898 --> 01:40:38,430 conducted themselves today? 2570 01:40:38,432 --> 01:40:40,598 Mostly, the police stayed uninvolved 2571 01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,702 for the first couple of hours. 2572 01:40:42,704 --> 01:40:45,270 Eventually, the barricades that they had 2573 01:40:45,272 --> 01:40:48,406 originally set up were taken down by the antifa. 2574 01:40:50,544 --> 01:40:52,610 Virginia Governor Terry McCauliffe 2575 01:40:52,612 --> 01:40:54,914 declares a state of emergency. 2576 01:40:56,383 --> 01:40:59,384 Then, that terrible moment. 2577 01:41:02,556 --> 01:41:04,556 When the driver of this gray Dodge 2578 01:41:04,558 --> 01:41:06,624 mows down a group of marchers 2579 01:41:06,626 --> 01:41:08,493 who were protesting the rally. 2580 01:41:08,495 --> 01:41:10,628 19 people were injured. 2581 01:41:10,630 --> 01:41:13,465 32 year old Heather Heyer was killed. 2582 01:41:13,467 --> 01:41:15,600 Heather's mother told us her daughter 2583 01:41:15,602 --> 01:41:18,904 was there protesting white supremacy. 2584 01:41:18,906 --> 01:41:21,974 The driver was caught by our ABC cameras, 2585 01:41:21,976 --> 01:41:24,344 chanting a message of white power. 2586 01:41:29,249 --> 01:41:30,482 And we're back. 2587 01:41:30,484 --> 01:41:33,018 Mike Cernovich, gorillamindset.com, 2588 01:41:33,020 --> 01:41:34,854 with a dimly lit Periscope, 2589 01:41:34,856 --> 01:41:36,621 and I think I need to fix my hair. 2590 01:41:36,623 --> 01:41:40,025 We now have in America neo-Nazi terrorists. 2591 01:41:40,027 --> 01:41:41,493 I wish it weren't otherwise, 2592 01:41:41,495 --> 01:41:44,163 but when you're driving a car into a crowd of people 2593 01:41:44,165 --> 01:41:45,798 after attending a neo-Nazi event, 2594 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,034 then you have to call it on both ways, right? 2595 01:41:49,036 --> 01:41:50,602 In a press conference this afternoon, 2596 01:41:50,604 --> 01:41:52,872 when asked about the events in Charlottesville, 2597 01:41:52,874 --> 01:41:54,539 Trump had this to say. 2598 01:41:54,541 --> 01:41:57,042 I think there's blame on both sides. 2599 01:41:58,946 --> 01:42:00,679 Alright, it's just like D-Day. 2600 01:42:00,681 --> 01:42:05,316 Remember, D-Day, two sides, allies and the Nazis. 2601 01:42:05,318 --> 01:42:08,687 There was a lot of violence on both sides, okay? 2602 01:42:08,689 --> 01:42:10,622 But how can you talk about 2603 01:42:10,624 --> 01:42:12,994 the terrorism of the neo-Nazis on the right, 2604 01:42:14,028 --> 01:42:15,627 but then look the other way 2605 01:42:15,629 --> 01:42:17,295 when the alt-left is committing terrorism. 2606 01:42:17,297 --> 01:42:21,133 One is a Nazi white supremacist group. 2607 01:42:21,135 --> 01:42:22,868 The other is a protest group, 2608 01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:25,971 protesting a political and a racist movement. 2609 01:42:25,973 --> 01:42:28,506 Maybe their tactics weren't exactly right. 2610 01:42:28,508 --> 01:42:30,575 Don Lemon goes, well, you know, 2611 01:42:30,577 --> 01:42:35,181 the alt-left, antifa, maybe they have some bad tactics. 2612 01:42:35,183 --> 01:42:36,982 And they're white-washing it. 2613 01:42:36,984 --> 01:42:38,583 What about the alt-left 2614 01:42:38,585 --> 01:42:41,519 that came charging at, as you say, the alt-right? 2615 01:42:42,522 --> 01:42:45,090 Do they have any semblance of guilt? 2616 01:42:45,092 --> 01:42:46,692 First of all, sir, 2617 01:42:46,694 --> 01:42:48,694 the opposite of alt-right isn't the alt-left. 2618 01:42:49,730 --> 01:42:52,164 It's the not-Nazis. 2619 01:42:56,336 --> 01:42:57,535 That's just me. 2620 01:42:57,537 --> 01:43:00,072 - I think you got it. - No I don't know. 2621 01:43:00,074 --> 01:43:02,041 - I think you got it. - Let's be fair, John. 2622 01:43:02,043 --> 01:43:03,976 - I think you got it. - You gotta be fair, John. 2623 01:43:03,978 --> 01:43:05,378 No that's pretty fair. 2624 01:43:08,082 --> 01:43:11,549 It's time for the left to actually take a stand. 2625 01:43:11,551 --> 01:43:16,556 99.999% of the right is against the neo-Nazis. 2626 01:43:17,390 --> 01:43:20,726 99.999% of the left is against 2627 01:43:20,728 --> 01:43:22,562 the alt-left terrorism, but, 2628 01:43:23,363 --> 01:43:25,430 but if you're a liberal, 2629 01:43:25,432 --> 01:43:27,365 if you're a liberal, 2630 01:43:27,367 --> 01:43:29,034 it's time to start calling this stuff out. 2631 01:43:29,036 --> 01:43:30,269 Thanks for watching. 2632 01:43:30,271 --> 01:43:31,103 Mike Cernovitch. 2633 01:43:31,105 --> 01:43:32,637 I'll be back soon. 2634 01:43:32,639 --> 01:43:33,973 We'll talk more. 2635 01:43:33,975 --> 01:43:35,607 My life is in danger every day 2636 01:43:35,609 --> 01:43:38,777 because the media has falsely claimed that I'm alt-right, 2637 01:43:38,779 --> 01:43:39,778 when I'm clearly not. 2638 01:43:39,780 --> 01:43:41,646 Red rover, red rover, 2639 01:43:41,648 --> 01:43:43,414 send Cernovich over. 2640 01:43:43,416 --> 01:43:44,650 I'm not part of that. 2641 01:43:44,652 --> 01:43:46,252 You want a red pill. 2642 01:43:46,254 --> 01:43:47,887 How about a leg pill? 2643 01:43:47,889 --> 01:43:49,722 The alt-right may have started out 2644 01:43:49,724 --> 01:43:53,659 as something different a year ago or two years ago. 2645 01:43:53,661 --> 01:43:55,828 It may have been about just an alternative 2646 01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:57,329 to mainstream republicans, 2647 01:43:57,331 --> 01:44:00,398 but it has clearly morphed into ultimately 2648 01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:04,569 an anti-Jewish, anti-everybody hate filled movement. 2649 01:44:04,571 --> 01:44:07,505 So I've said, hey, you guys have free speech rights. 2650 01:44:07,507 --> 01:44:09,641 I've said the alt-right has free speech rights 2651 01:44:09,643 --> 01:44:11,677 to go give their talks and public rallies. 2652 01:44:11,679 --> 01:44:13,444 But I've said if your movement is based on hate, 2653 01:44:13,446 --> 01:44:15,647 I completely want nothing to do with it. 2654 01:44:15,649 --> 01:44:17,482 And I said if you want to throw Nazi salutes, 2655 01:44:17,484 --> 01:44:18,784 I don't want anything to do with you. 2656 01:44:18,786 --> 01:44:19,685 Don't come to my event. 2657 01:44:19,687 --> 01:44:21,419 Stay far far away from me. 2658 01:44:21,421 --> 01:44:23,621 The media, though, they call me alt-right to this day. 2659 01:44:23,623 --> 01:44:26,759 For people who vote for Donald Trump 2660 01:44:26,761 --> 01:44:30,195 to get lumped in with white supremacists and extremists, 2661 01:44:30,197 --> 01:44:33,032 it's true in a lot of regards 2662 01:44:33,034 --> 01:44:35,367 'cause you have the KKK, 2663 01:44:35,369 --> 01:44:40,374 who are marching the morning after Trump won the election. 2664 01:44:41,641 --> 01:44:42,540 You have alt-right groups and groups 2665 01:44:42,542 --> 01:44:44,143 that call themselves hate groups 2666 01:44:44,145 --> 01:44:46,477 that are holding up Trump signs at their rallies. 2667 01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,781 There were Trump signs in Charlottesville, right? 2668 01:44:48,783 --> 01:44:51,216 Living in America as a black man, 2669 01:44:51,218 --> 01:44:53,484 I'm constantly traumatized. 2670 01:44:53,486 --> 01:44:55,988 I'm traumatized by the statistics that I see, 2671 01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:58,223 I'm traumatized by what I watch on the news 2672 01:44:58,225 --> 01:44:59,892 when black people are choked to death, 2673 01:44:59,894 --> 01:45:02,728 I'm traumatized by what I see on social media. 2674 01:45:02,730 --> 01:45:04,863 Black men being show in front of their families 2675 01:45:04,865 --> 01:45:06,799 by the police and nothing happening. 2676 01:45:06,801 --> 01:45:09,735 Black men with full carry weapons permits. 2677 01:45:09,737 --> 01:45:10,836 I'm traumatized. 2678 01:45:10,838 --> 01:45:12,671 Where's the help for my trauma? 2679 01:45:12,673 --> 01:45:15,407 Who's addressing my needs psychologically? 2680 01:45:15,409 --> 01:45:17,044 These are things we don't look at. 2681 01:45:34,061 --> 01:45:36,261 I'm a freedom fighter, I'm a revolutionary, 2682 01:45:36,263 --> 01:45:38,864 I'm a Christian, I'm a proud American. 2683 01:45:38,866 --> 01:45:42,001 Although people won't admit to it, 2684 01:45:42,003 --> 01:45:44,672 America is a very racist place. 2685 01:45:45,906 --> 01:45:47,740 It was founded on racial practices. 2686 01:45:47,742 --> 01:45:50,175 And these practices still exist today. 2687 01:45:50,177 --> 01:45:51,877 Maybe to the extent today, 2688 01:45:51,879 --> 01:45:53,846 not to the extent today where before, 2689 01:45:53,848 --> 01:45:56,382 but these racist practices still exist. 2690 01:45:56,384 --> 01:45:57,683 And if you are a Christian, 2691 01:45:57,685 --> 01:45:59,084 if you are American, 2692 01:45:59,086 --> 01:46:02,456 you could look at the facts and say, yes, this is true. 2693 01:46:05,092 --> 01:46:06,358 Black lives matter. 2694 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:07,960 Black lives matter. 2695 01:46:07,962 --> 01:46:09,461 That's the mantra 2696 01:46:09,463 --> 01:46:11,864 and the message of protests around the country. 2697 01:46:11,866 --> 01:46:13,899 Saying only black lives matter, 2698 01:46:13,901 --> 01:46:14,967 then we do not have to say it. 2699 01:46:14,969 --> 01:46:16,268 Black lives matter is mean. 2700 01:46:16,270 --> 01:46:18,538 A black person gets killed by the police 2701 01:46:19,707 --> 01:46:22,107 under questionable circumstances. 2702 01:46:22,109 --> 01:46:24,910 Black people rally. 2703 01:46:24,912 --> 01:46:26,577 The cop goes to court, 2704 01:46:26,579 --> 01:46:28,414 and no matter how questionable, 2705 01:46:28,416 --> 01:46:31,485 it always seems as though the cop walks away. 2706 01:46:33,054 --> 01:46:34,753 Does this always happen? 2707 01:46:34,755 --> 01:46:36,755 No, sometimes the cops get convicted, 2708 01:46:36,757 --> 01:46:39,725 but it just seems to be a reoccurring theme. 2709 01:46:39,727 --> 01:46:41,326 There's an aspect of Black Lives Matter 2710 01:46:41,328 --> 01:46:44,763 which is well-needed, very well-needed, 2711 01:46:44,765 --> 01:46:47,766 and that is police misconduct, 2712 01:46:47,768 --> 01:46:49,567 militarization of police force. 2713 01:46:49,569 --> 01:46:51,806 The average person, what do they know about us? 2714 01:46:53,074 --> 01:46:55,407 They know what the media tells them. 2715 01:46:55,409 --> 01:46:57,776 They say BLM is anti-cop. 2716 01:46:57,778 --> 01:47:00,179 Boy do we have an atrocious case 2717 01:47:00,181 --> 01:47:02,848 of the media twisting things 2718 01:47:02,850 --> 01:47:04,917 in order to lead people in the wrong direction. 2719 01:47:04,919 --> 01:47:07,853 It happens to be a Fox affiliate in Baltimore. 2720 01:47:07,855 --> 01:47:09,922 At this rally in Washington, DC, 2721 01:47:09,924 --> 01:47:13,192 participants chanted, "We won't stop, we can't stop, 2722 01:47:13,194 --> 01:47:14,993 "so kill a cop." 2723 01:47:14,995 --> 01:47:16,195 We won't stop! 2724 01:47:16,197 --> 01:47:16,995 We won't stop! 2725 01:47:16,997 --> 01:47:17,863 We can't stop! 2726 01:47:17,865 --> 01:47:18,997 We can't stop! 2727 01:47:18,999 --> 01:47:19,832 So kill a cop! 2728 01:47:19,834 --> 01:47:21,166 So kill a cop! 2729 01:47:21,168 --> 01:47:23,102 And that is not at all what they said. 2730 01:47:23,104 --> 01:47:24,803 So the actual chant was, 2731 01:47:24,805 --> 01:47:27,539 we can't stop, we won't stop, 2732 01:47:27,541 --> 01:47:30,309 'til killer cops are in cell blocks. 2733 01:47:30,311 --> 01:47:31,110 We won't stop. 2734 01:47:31,112 --> 01:47:31,877 We won't stop! 2735 01:47:31,879 --> 01:47:32,811 We can't stop! 2736 01:47:32,813 --> 01:47:33,879 We can't stop! 2737 01:47:33,881 --> 01:47:34,947 'Til killer cops. 2738 01:47:34,949 --> 01:47:35,848 'Til killer cops. 2739 01:47:35,850 --> 01:47:36,782 Are in cell blocks. 2740 01:47:36,784 --> 01:47:37,950 Are in cell blocks. 2741 01:47:37,952 --> 01:47:39,184 I'm not anti-cop. 2742 01:47:39,186 --> 01:47:40,519 There are members of my group who are. 2743 01:47:40,521 --> 01:47:43,023 Because I know, 2744 01:47:44,525 --> 01:47:49,194 I know cops who are, as people, decent human beings. 2745 01:47:49,196 --> 01:47:52,831 Black Lives Matter has been subject to fake news 2746 01:47:52,833 --> 01:47:54,900 in the sense that the media does want 2747 01:47:54,902 --> 01:47:56,869 to sensationalize what is happening. 2748 01:47:56,871 --> 01:48:01,006 So if there's a big major protest, 2749 01:48:01,008 --> 01:48:03,976 then the media isn't gonna cover that. 2750 01:48:03,978 --> 01:48:05,911 They want to cover the 20 people 2751 01:48:05,913 --> 01:48:07,179 lighting cars on fires, 2752 01:48:07,181 --> 01:48:08,847 flipping things over, 2753 01:48:08,849 --> 01:48:10,916 committing violence and other things. 2754 01:48:13,687 --> 01:48:16,021 There's a difference between a protest and a riot. 2755 01:48:16,023 --> 01:48:17,689 Burn that motherfucker down. 2756 01:48:21,162 --> 01:48:23,428 Burn this motherfucker down! 2757 01:48:23,430 --> 01:48:24,363 Burn this bitch down! 2758 01:48:24,365 --> 01:48:25,933 So in that regard, 2759 01:48:27,101 --> 01:48:30,169 a lot of people associate Black Lives Matter 2760 01:48:30,171 --> 01:48:32,604 being discredited, but on the other hand, 2761 01:48:32,606 --> 01:48:34,940 there was a journalist, a Korean-American journalist, 2762 01:48:34,942 --> 01:48:37,843 Tim Pool, who went to cover the protest, 2763 01:48:37,845 --> 01:48:38,877 which then turned out to be riots, 2764 01:48:38,879 --> 01:48:40,379 in I believe Milwaukee. 2765 01:48:40,381 --> 01:48:41,680 One of the first things we hear 2766 01:48:41,682 --> 01:48:43,015 is the crowd getting angry and saying, 2767 01:48:43,017 --> 01:48:44,683 "What are these white people doing here? 2768 01:48:44,685 --> 01:48:45,551 "Fuck white people. 2769 01:48:45,553 --> 01:48:46,852 "White people suck." 2770 01:48:46,854 --> 01:48:48,921 And it culminated with an 18 year old white kid 2771 01:48:48,923 --> 01:48:50,556 being shot in the neck yesterday. 2772 01:48:50,558 --> 01:48:52,057 That's a problem and that's a conversation 2773 01:48:52,059 --> 01:48:53,759 that needs to be had. 2774 01:48:53,761 --> 01:48:55,194 For those that are perceivable-y white, 2775 01:48:55,196 --> 01:48:58,530 it is just not safe to be here. 2776 01:48:58,532 --> 01:49:00,899 And that's why I'm deciding to leave. 2777 01:49:00,901 --> 01:49:03,535 They interviewed a girl there 2778 01:49:03,537 --> 01:49:05,037 who was yelling about how they need 2779 01:49:05,039 --> 01:49:07,072 to stop the violence in Milwaukee. 2780 01:49:07,074 --> 01:49:09,074 Thy kingdom come. 2781 01:49:09,076 --> 01:49:10,442 Thy will be done. 2782 01:49:10,444 --> 01:49:12,211 With his sister calling for peace. 2783 01:49:12,213 --> 01:49:13,312 Helped bring the violence here 2784 01:49:13,314 --> 01:49:14,780 and the ignorance here. 2785 01:49:14,782 --> 01:49:16,114 But the other half of that clip 2786 01:49:16,116 --> 01:49:17,115 was her screaming they need to bring 2787 01:49:17,117 --> 01:49:19,551 the violence to white neighborhoods. 2788 01:49:19,553 --> 01:49:22,588 Y'all burning down shit we need in our community. 2789 01:49:22,590 --> 01:49:24,657 Take that shit to the suburbs. 2790 01:49:24,659 --> 01:49:25,824 Burn that shit down. 2791 01:49:25,826 --> 01:49:27,660 That is fake news right there, 2792 01:49:27,662 --> 01:49:30,062 and it's happening every day on your TV screen, 2793 01:49:30,064 --> 01:49:31,930 but it's hard to point out because 2794 01:49:31,932 --> 01:49:34,066 there are bits of truth within it. 2795 01:49:34,068 --> 01:49:34,967 I ask people, I go, 2796 01:49:34,969 --> 01:49:37,336 can you name a high profile, 2797 01:49:37,338 --> 01:49:40,105 a black person who had been shot by police? 2798 01:49:40,107 --> 01:49:42,476 And people can, they can name a few people, right? 2799 01:49:45,312 --> 01:49:48,080 And then I say, can you think of a white person 2800 01:49:48,082 --> 01:49:49,516 who was shot by police? 2801 01:49:50,517 --> 01:49:51,984 No. 2802 01:49:51,986 --> 01:49:52,951 I go, well did you know that 2803 01:49:52,953 --> 01:49:55,120 twice as many white people 2804 01:49:55,122 --> 01:49:57,189 as black people are shot by police every year. 2805 01:49:57,191 --> 01:49:58,590 And they go, well yeah, 2806 01:49:58,592 --> 01:49:59,825 but white people are a majority of the population. 2807 01:49:59,827 --> 01:50:01,927 It's like, I get the statistics. 2808 01:50:01,929 --> 01:50:03,762 But if twice as many white people 2809 01:50:03,764 --> 01:50:04,965 are shot as black people, 2810 01:50:06,533 --> 01:50:09,434 and you can't name a single white person shot by police, 2811 01:50:09,436 --> 01:50:11,970 what does that say about the media's coverage, right? 2812 01:50:11,972 --> 01:50:13,639 The first thing you hear when a cop 2813 01:50:13,641 --> 01:50:17,109 kills someone of color is their criminal history, 2814 01:50:17,111 --> 01:50:18,343 if they're an alcoholic, 2815 01:50:18,345 --> 01:50:20,112 they were a woman-beater, 2816 01:50:20,114 --> 01:50:22,047 they were, who knows? 2817 01:50:22,049 --> 01:50:25,517 When a black person is killed, they're villain-ized. 2818 01:50:25,519 --> 01:50:29,121 And when a white person is killed, 2819 01:50:29,123 --> 01:50:31,023 they are victimized. 2820 01:50:31,025 --> 01:50:32,624 Villain-ized, victimized. 2821 01:50:32,626 --> 01:50:33,992 And that's no one else but the media. 2822 01:50:59,019 --> 01:51:00,185 I've never heard about that. 2823 01:51:00,187 --> 01:51:02,821 Shit is crazy. 2824 01:51:02,823 --> 01:51:04,024 This is crazy. 2825 01:51:05,826 --> 01:51:09,161 I don't understand why I haven't heard of this. 2826 01:51:09,163 --> 01:51:10,929 Like, that's unbelievable. 2827 01:51:10,931 --> 01:51:12,998 This is what's funny about the media. 2828 01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,704 All the victims in Nashville were white, 2829 01:51:16,837 --> 01:51:19,604 but it is not clear whether Samson 2830 01:51:19,606 --> 01:51:22,274 specifically targeted them based on their race. 2831 01:51:22,276 --> 01:51:25,077 That's bullshit, right? 2832 01:51:25,079 --> 01:51:26,111 It's bullshit. 2833 01:51:26,113 --> 01:51:29,114 And this is me talking about a black person 2834 01:51:29,116 --> 01:51:32,184 who killed white people at church. 2835 01:51:32,186 --> 01:51:34,419 I don't understand why I never heard that story. 2836 01:51:34,421 --> 01:51:36,521 And what's more amazing to me is 2837 01:51:36,523 --> 01:51:39,091 I have over three, I don't know, 2838 01:51:39,093 --> 01:51:40,959 three or 4000 friends on Facebook. 2839 01:51:40,961 --> 01:51:43,732 I've never seen that story published. 2840 01:51:44,865 --> 01:51:46,398 It's interesting to me. 2841 01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:47,966 Now in my view, 2842 01:51:47,968 --> 01:51:49,568 the media doesn't want to give attention 2843 01:51:49,570 --> 01:51:51,069 to white people who are shot, 2844 01:51:51,071 --> 01:51:53,038 because then white people might say, oh, 2845 01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:54,373 it could happen to me too. 2846 01:51:54,375 --> 01:51:56,475 Maybe I ought to talk to these Black Lives Matter people. 2847 01:51:56,477 --> 01:51:58,745 Maybe we can find common cause. 2848 01:51:58,747 --> 01:52:00,212 The media does not care about black lives. 2849 01:52:00,214 --> 01:52:01,646 They don't care about white lives. 2850 01:52:01,648 --> 01:52:03,415 They care about the show. 2851 01:52:03,417 --> 01:52:05,484 And a Black Lives Matter leader, 2852 01:52:05,486 --> 01:52:08,086 who was reasonable and nuanced, 2853 01:52:08,088 --> 01:52:11,456 and wanted to talk both about rights and responsibilities, 2854 01:52:11,458 --> 01:52:14,159 would resonate with the people. 2855 01:52:14,161 --> 01:52:16,796 And that would be very frustrating for the media. 2856 01:52:16,798 --> 01:52:18,397 They don't want people to resonate. 2857 01:52:20,300 --> 01:52:22,401 The way this rally is different, 2858 01:52:22,403 --> 01:52:25,303 this is one where it's family-oriented. 2859 01:52:25,305 --> 01:52:27,305 The message is positive. 2860 01:52:27,307 --> 01:52:28,640 We're here to relax. 2861 01:52:28,642 --> 01:52:30,175 We're here to have a good time. 2862 01:52:30,177 --> 01:52:35,082 Washington DC, we're standing to the right of the stage 2863 01:52:35,916 --> 01:52:37,683 at the mother of all rallies. 2864 01:52:37,685 --> 01:52:40,452 And we had just stepped up, 2865 01:52:40,454 --> 01:52:43,455 and people just started booing us, heckling us. 2866 01:52:43,457 --> 01:52:46,258 We stood there defiantly with our fists in the air. 2867 01:52:46,260 --> 01:52:48,160 Chanting, "Black lives matter." 2868 01:52:48,162 --> 01:52:51,196 So they're chanting back, "All lives matter." 2869 01:52:51,198 --> 01:52:52,765 They're making comments. 2870 01:52:52,767 --> 01:52:55,267 And you know, we saw a few people who were 2871 01:52:55,269 --> 01:52:58,336 in Charlottesville, and who we had butted heads with 2872 01:52:58,338 --> 01:53:00,505 a few weeks prior. 2873 01:53:00,507 --> 01:53:03,608 And out of nowhere, one of the guys said... 2874 01:53:03,610 --> 01:53:05,043 So what we are gonna do 2875 01:53:05,045 --> 01:53:07,279 is something you're not used to, 2876 01:53:07,281 --> 01:53:09,782 and we're gonna give you two minutes of our platform 2877 01:53:09,784 --> 01:53:11,216 to put your message out. 2878 01:53:11,218 --> 01:53:13,187 When I got on the stage, 2879 01:53:14,321 --> 01:53:16,689 my mind state changed. 2880 01:53:16,691 --> 01:53:19,293 It wasn't fear, it was God. 2881 01:53:20,227 --> 01:53:24,298 And something said tell them who you are. 2882 01:53:25,365 --> 01:53:27,700 I am an American. 2883 01:53:31,238 --> 01:53:34,674 Secondly, I am a Christian. 2884 01:53:36,911 --> 01:53:40,378 The reason why we fight is to draw attention to issues 2885 01:53:40,380 --> 01:53:41,681 and to fix it. 2886 01:53:41,683 --> 01:53:44,817 We are not anti-cop. 2887 01:53:44,819 --> 01:53:48,587 We are anti-bad cop. 2888 01:53:50,324 --> 01:53:52,090 We don't want handouts. 2889 01:53:52,092 --> 01:53:54,526 We don't want anything that's yours. 2890 01:53:54,528 --> 01:53:58,597 We want our God-given right to freedom, 2891 01:53:58,599 --> 01:54:02,100 liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. 2892 01:54:05,539 --> 01:54:08,041 USA, USA, USA, USA. 2893 01:54:10,611 --> 01:54:14,780 I think we really made some substantial steps 2894 01:54:14,782 --> 01:54:17,349 without either side yielding anything. 2895 01:54:17,351 --> 01:54:19,417 Here I went from being their enemy 2896 01:54:19,419 --> 01:54:21,620 to someone they want to take pictures with their children. 2897 01:54:21,622 --> 01:54:23,689 That's the power of communication. 2898 01:54:23,691 --> 01:54:27,259 Why doesn't the media tell us this story? 2899 01:54:27,261 --> 01:54:28,260 Why? 2900 01:54:28,262 --> 01:54:32,397 Because people like you and I will sit down, 2901 01:54:32,399 --> 01:54:34,032 and say, let's figure this out. 2902 01:54:34,034 --> 01:54:36,802 And guess what, it disrupts the establishment. 2903 01:54:36,804 --> 01:54:38,403 No no no, the media's never gonna 2904 01:54:38,405 --> 01:54:40,038 give that guy a platform. 2905 01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,775 They want to give a platform to people 2906 01:54:42,777 --> 01:54:44,744 that look monstrous, 2907 01:54:44,746 --> 01:54:46,779 because then you keep everybody divided. 2908 01:54:46,781 --> 01:54:48,213 You keep everybody paranoid. 2909 01:54:48,215 --> 01:54:49,583 You keep everybody hysterical. 2910 01:54:51,084 --> 01:54:54,654 That is the problem right now with America is the bubble. 2911 01:54:54,656 --> 01:54:56,555 You click away and you unfollow. 2912 01:54:56,557 --> 01:54:58,089 You separate yourself from people 2913 01:54:58,091 --> 01:54:59,457 with contradicting views, 2914 01:54:59,459 --> 01:55:02,294 and then you end up with this sort of snowball 2915 01:55:02,296 --> 01:55:03,963 of your own narrative. 2916 01:55:03,965 --> 01:55:06,331 Your narrative should be something like, 2917 01:55:06,333 --> 01:55:09,001 I'm constantly trying to go beyond the truth 2918 01:55:09,003 --> 01:55:10,337 that I already hold. 2919 01:55:11,638 --> 01:55:14,339 Because the truth that you already hold is not enough. 2920 01:55:14,341 --> 01:55:16,742 You need to know more than you know. 2921 01:55:16,744 --> 01:55:19,477 If you think about what the news is, 2922 01:55:19,479 --> 01:55:23,114 what you see in a newspaper or on TV, 2923 01:55:23,116 --> 01:55:25,283 it's a small fraction of reality, right? 2924 01:55:25,285 --> 01:55:27,954 There's all the things that have happened. 2925 01:55:27,956 --> 01:55:30,589 There's all the things that they know about. 2926 01:55:30,591 --> 01:55:33,759 There's all the things that they decided to write about. 2927 01:55:33,761 --> 01:55:36,528 There's the things that they decided to write about 2928 01:55:36,530 --> 01:55:38,163 that you saw. 2929 01:55:38,165 --> 01:55:39,497 And it goes down and down, 2930 01:55:39,499 --> 01:55:41,333 until you're at that individual article. 2931 01:55:41,335 --> 01:55:44,469 And so you think that when you're reading the news, 2932 01:55:44,471 --> 01:55:46,271 that you're being informed. 2933 01:55:46,273 --> 01:55:47,539 That you're educating yourself. 2934 01:55:47,541 --> 01:55:49,507 That you're seeing how the world is. 2935 01:55:49,509 --> 01:55:51,677 But you're seeing such a tiny fraction of the world, 2936 01:55:51,679 --> 01:55:54,346 and so you could argue that in a way, 2937 01:55:54,348 --> 01:55:57,049 the media is designed not to inform you, 2938 01:55:57,051 --> 01:55:59,351 but to keep you uninformed. 2939 01:55:59,353 --> 01:56:02,454 And that's really scary that the bubble 2940 01:56:02,456 --> 01:56:04,189 that we all live in, 2941 01:56:04,191 --> 01:56:07,492 that has no real higher obligation anymore 2942 01:56:07,494 --> 01:56:10,896 to this sort of philosophical idea of truth 2943 01:56:10,898 --> 01:56:12,332 is a scary thing. 2944 01:56:13,901 --> 01:56:15,837 We can't even agree on reality anymore. 2945 01:56:28,082 --> 01:56:30,484 It's always a question to some degree. 2946 01:56:31,418 --> 01:56:33,921 Which of our partial realities is true, 2947 01:56:35,155 --> 01:56:36,356 and which of them is false? 2948 01:56:38,059 --> 01:56:41,927 There's a world that exists beyond our comprehension of it, 2949 01:56:41,929 --> 01:56:43,929 and so you have to lay a structure on it 2950 01:56:43,931 --> 01:56:45,198 in order to simplify it. 2951 01:56:46,433 --> 01:56:48,901 The role of a journalist is to lay out 2952 01:56:48,903 --> 01:56:52,205 an unbiased simplification of the situation, 2953 01:56:53,041 --> 01:56:55,573 and to let the viewers, readers, 2954 01:56:55,575 --> 01:56:56,778 make up their own minds. 2955 01:56:58,378 --> 01:57:02,081 But, if you introduce an act of deception into the world, 2956 01:57:02,083 --> 01:57:05,250 it stays and it manifests itself. 2957 01:57:05,252 --> 01:57:09,187 When you do that, you corrupt the structure of the world, 2958 01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:10,856 and you corrupt your own soul. 2959 01:57:10,858 --> 01:57:12,192 And God help you. 2960 01:57:13,293 --> 01:57:14,927 It's not good. 2961 01:57:14,929 --> 01:57:16,561 It's seriously not good. 2962 01:57:16,563 --> 01:57:18,263 And we know this. 2963 01:57:18,265 --> 01:57:20,966 If you read who I would regard 2964 01:57:20,968 --> 01:57:23,234 as the most profound analysts 2965 01:57:23,236 --> 01:57:26,304 of the totalitarian societies of the 20th Century, 2966 01:57:26,306 --> 01:57:28,606 they come to the same conclusion, 2967 01:57:28,608 --> 01:57:31,877 which is that the totalitarian states 2968 01:57:31,879 --> 01:57:33,411 would not have been possible without 2969 01:57:33,413 --> 01:57:35,246 the moral corruption of the individuals 2970 01:57:35,248 --> 01:57:36,450 within that society. 2971 01:57:37,617 --> 01:57:38,616 And if you think that through, 2972 01:57:38,618 --> 01:57:41,321 then it should make you quake in your boots. 2973 01:57:43,057 --> 01:57:45,590 We have to restructure our value systems, 2974 01:57:45,592 --> 01:57:48,094 and so that means going back into the past. 2975 01:57:48,096 --> 01:57:50,328 If ye continue in my word, 2976 01:57:50,330 --> 01:57:54,133 then are ye my disciples indeed. 2977 01:57:54,135 --> 01:57:56,135 And ye shall know the truth, 2978 01:57:56,137 --> 01:57:59,107 and the truth shall make you free. 2979 01:58:00,273 --> 01:58:01,439 Amen. 2980 01:58:01,441 --> 01:58:03,144 There is no search for truth. 2981 01:58:04,277 --> 01:58:05,845 The government writes the text books, 2982 01:58:05,847 --> 01:58:08,313 and the children are taught to accept communism 2983 01:58:08,315 --> 01:58:10,649 and their fate without question. 2984 01:58:10,651 --> 01:58:15,656 We're at a point where Judaeo-Christian ethics can't die, 2985 01:58:17,357 --> 01:58:18,659 because if it does, 2986 01:58:19,526 --> 01:58:21,662 then our civilization is done. 2987 01:58:23,197 --> 01:58:27,467 Because it's foundation blocks are of that ethic. 2988 01:58:28,970 --> 01:58:30,803 In the story of Genesis, right at the beginning, 2989 01:58:30,805 --> 01:58:34,774 is the idea that the essential creative element 2990 01:58:34,776 --> 01:58:38,612 of divinity is the logos, the word, the truth. 2991 01:58:40,181 --> 01:58:42,047 And that consciousness calls a world 2992 01:58:42,049 --> 01:58:44,216 into being through language. 2993 01:58:44,218 --> 01:58:48,620 That's the image of God in man, as far as I can tell. 2994 01:58:48,622 --> 01:58:51,491 And so the words you choose 2995 01:58:52,693 --> 01:58:55,560 determine the structure of the world 2996 01:58:55,562 --> 01:58:56,731 that you bring into being. 2997 01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,200 So we better get our acts together. 2998 01:59:01,202 --> 01:59:02,502 We need truth. 2999 01:59:03,470 --> 01:59:05,037 We need truth in media. 3000 01:59:05,039 --> 01:59:09,975 We need to open up our eyes. 3001 01:59:09,977 --> 01:59:12,044 The fundamental question people are gonna have, 3002 01:59:12,046 --> 01:59:13,846 which I have, is how do you know what's true 3003 01:59:13,848 --> 01:59:15,380 or what's not true? 3004 01:59:15,382 --> 01:59:19,350 I wonder sometimes if there is a truth 3005 01:59:19,352 --> 01:59:21,189 that is accessible to us. 3006 01:59:25,358 --> 01:59:27,762 Like I don't know if we can ever know what's truth. 3007 01:59:34,669 --> 01:59:36,367 Plato's allegory of the cave 3008 01:59:36,369 --> 01:59:38,671 is one of philosophy's oldest stories, 3009 01:59:38,673 --> 01:59:39,674 and one of its best. 3010 01:59:40,875 --> 01:59:42,908 In the story, there are people who have lived 3011 01:59:42,910 --> 01:59:46,444 their whole lives chained in a cave. 3012 01:59:46,446 --> 01:59:49,114 And they're forced to look at the wall. 3013 01:59:49,116 --> 01:59:51,684 Now behind them is a fire. 3014 01:59:51,686 --> 01:59:54,086 And in front of the fire are various shapes. 3015 01:59:54,088 --> 01:59:56,722 People, animals, trees. 3016 01:59:56,724 --> 01:59:59,692 And they see against the flickering 3017 01:59:59,694 --> 02:00:01,593 firelight of the cave wall these shapes, 3018 02:00:01,595 --> 02:00:04,598 and they think that they're looking at reality. 3019 02:00:06,033 --> 02:00:09,603 But one day, one of the men breaks his chains, 3020 02:00:10,805 --> 02:00:12,437 and he turns his head for the first time in his life, 3021 02:00:12,439 --> 02:00:15,074 and he looks, and he sees the shapes, 3022 02:00:15,076 --> 02:00:18,777 and he sees the fire itself. 3023 02:00:18,779 --> 02:00:22,781 And it's startling, and he thinks that is real. 3024 02:00:22,783 --> 02:00:23,816 Now I have seen what is real. 3025 02:00:23,818 --> 02:00:27,753 Before, I only saw the flickering shadows. 3026 02:00:27,755 --> 02:00:29,056 Now I see what is real. 3027 02:00:30,258 --> 02:00:32,927 But then, he sees on the far side of the fire, 3028 02:00:34,561 --> 02:00:35,796 a passageway leading out. 3029 02:00:36,831 --> 02:00:40,632 Curious, he decides to go up the stairs. 3030 02:00:40,634 --> 02:00:42,600 And he climbs the stairs one by one, 3031 02:00:42,602 --> 02:00:44,638 and he begins to see the light. 3032 02:00:46,439 --> 02:00:48,439 Not of the flickering shadows, 3033 02:00:48,441 --> 02:00:49,675 not of the fire, not of the shapes, 3034 02:00:49,677 --> 02:00:53,413 but of the world itself. 3035 02:00:55,582 --> 02:00:57,116 And he sees the world for what it is. 3036 02:00:57,118 --> 02:00:59,484 He sees the actual trees. 3037 02:00:59,486 --> 02:01:02,154 Not the shadows of trees, not the models of trees, 3038 02:01:02,156 --> 02:01:03,155 the actual trees. 3039 02:01:03,157 --> 02:01:04,792 He sees the sky, he sees the sun. 3040 02:01:05,826 --> 02:01:07,525 It all becomes blindingly clear to him, 3041 02:01:07,527 --> 02:01:09,427 and he realizes that he has spent his life 3042 02:01:09,429 --> 02:01:12,463 imprisoned into a false reality. 3043 02:01:13,668 --> 02:01:17,670 We are told by the media what the world is. 3044 02:01:17,672 --> 02:01:19,672 We are told by the media what is right, 3045 02:01:19,674 --> 02:01:20,940 what is wrong, what to believe, 3046 02:01:20,942 --> 02:01:22,808 who to love, who to hate. 3047 02:01:22,810 --> 02:01:26,546 These are just shadows on the wall of the cave. 3048 02:01:28,115 --> 02:01:29,614 And then the thought comes to his mind 3049 02:01:29,616 --> 02:01:32,117 as he regards this beauty and he says, 3050 02:01:32,119 --> 02:01:34,454 "I must share this!" 3051 02:01:36,489 --> 02:01:38,623 With the people below, with my friends, 3052 02:01:38,625 --> 02:01:42,695 my companions, my compatriots chained in the cave. 3053 02:01:42,697 --> 02:01:44,562 So he takes a last look to drink in the glory 3054 02:01:44,564 --> 02:01:46,497 of everything that he sees. 3055 02:01:46,499 --> 02:01:51,405 And then with excitement, with joy, with anticipation, 3056 02:01:52,572 --> 02:01:54,842 he turns back down into the cave, 3057 02:01:56,010 --> 02:02:00,245 and he starts to tell everyone chained to the wall, 3058 02:02:00,247 --> 02:02:03,749 this is not real, this is not real, these are illusions. 3059 02:02:03,751 --> 02:02:06,721 And he reaches down and he tries to break their chains. 3060 02:02:07,655 --> 02:02:09,724 And they do not thank him. 3061 02:02:11,558 --> 02:02:13,659 They do not praise him, they do not admire his wisdom 3062 02:02:13,661 --> 02:02:14,693 and his courage. 3063 02:02:14,695 --> 02:02:15,995 They fight him. 3064 02:02:15,997 --> 02:02:18,430 And they call him mad, they call him deranged, 3065 02:02:18,432 --> 02:02:23,437 delusional, disruptive, seditious, dangerous. 3066 02:02:27,708 --> 02:02:30,541 And he faces the choice, 3067 02:02:30,543 --> 02:02:33,247 the choice that we all face when we learn the truth. 3068 02:02:35,182 --> 02:02:37,785 Do we stay where we are hated, 3069 02:02:39,220 --> 02:02:40,886 down in the dungeons, 3070 02:02:40,888 --> 02:02:43,722 among the enslaved, mentally. 3071 02:02:43,724 --> 02:02:47,292 Do we stay among those fixated on their screens, 3072 02:02:47,294 --> 02:02:48,894 who will not tear their eyes away 3073 02:02:48,896 --> 02:02:52,199 from a manufactured reality to look at the world itself. 3074 02:02:53,768 --> 02:02:55,868 Or do we go and climb those stairs again 3075 02:02:55,870 --> 02:02:59,271 to imbibe all the glory and beauty of the natural world, 3076 02:02:59,273 --> 02:03:02,941 leaving behind those who fight us 3077 02:03:02,943 --> 02:03:04,211 for bringing them the truth. 3078 02:03:05,713 --> 02:03:06,747 I say stand and fight. 3079 02:03:07,948 --> 02:03:09,214 What is the glory of the world 3080 02:03:09,216 --> 02:03:11,383 if we must drink it in solitude? 3081 02:03:11,385 --> 02:03:13,385 What is the beauty of the planet 3082 02:03:13,387 --> 02:03:15,756 if we must view it alone? 3083 02:03:17,291 --> 02:03:19,258 We have an obligation, if we have seen the truth, 3084 02:03:19,260 --> 02:03:22,494 to wrestle the lies from the minds 3085 02:03:22,496 --> 02:03:23,998 of those stuck in the cave. 3086 02:03:26,467 --> 02:03:29,902 The cave is the manufactured reality 3087 02:03:29,904 --> 02:03:31,670 of those who would control us 3088 02:03:31,672 --> 02:03:33,074 by controlling what we think. 3089 02:03:34,641 --> 02:03:38,177 But fundamentally, you can't control what someone thinks. 3090 02:03:38,179 --> 02:03:42,649 Because once they think, they are beyond your control. 3091 02:03:51,661 --> 02:03:55,160 Subtitles by explosiveskull www.OpenSubtitles.org 235644

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