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For those of
you who don't follow it,
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or may not remember it,
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one of these really evil people
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in the online world,
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out of whole cloth
make up this story
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that John Podesta
and I are running
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a child trafficking ring
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in the basement of the
Comet Pizza Parlor.
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By the way, there
is no basement.
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Yeah, there is no basement.
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But if you migrate that crazy
story to Facebook posts,
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there are people who
will believe that,
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including this very
unfortunate young man
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in North Carolina,
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believing that he
was on a mission
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because he saw it on Facebook.
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He saw it in other
places online.
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He saw it in quote news outlets,
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and so he was there on
a mission of rescue.
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People could have gotten killed.
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Tonight, a terrifying moment.
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Authorities say a man with
an AR-15, opening fire,
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after police say he showed
up at a family pizza joint.
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Welsh drove six hours from
Salisbury, North Carolina,
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to self investigate.
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A conspiracy theory
called "Pizzagate."
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Viciously phony rumors
that the pizza joint
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was the base for a
child abuse ring,
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using underground tunnels
led by Hillary Clinton
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and her campaign
chief John Podesta.
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This is insane.
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No one was hurt,
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but this became an
alarming consequence
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of the growing online
phenomena, fake news.
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The
police say there is
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no sex trafficking conspiracy,
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but millions read about
it on dozens of websites,
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including one called
"Danger in Play."
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"Danger in Play" is written
by Michael Cernovich.
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All media is narrative.
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And we are in a
war of narratives.
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There is a story about me.
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There is a story that
I'm just a very mean,
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awful, nasty troll.
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Is that the totality
of who I am?
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No, have I been mean
before in the past?
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Yes.
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Here's Hillary's handler, and
here's Hillary collapsing.
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That's the narrative about me.
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I view it more in terms
of sort of pro-wrestling.
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Bill Clinton is a rapist!
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Bill Clinton is a rapist!
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And the people
are gonna view you
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as the heel or the bad guy,
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you just have to play
up into that role.
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Assault, they're assaulting me!
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They're attacking me!
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And that's what I've done
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is I've recognized that people
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are gonna misinterpret me,
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completely twist my
words out of context.
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And in many cases,
fabricate things,
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and I can either
spend all of my day
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explaining why that isn't true,
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or I can just embrace
that heel role
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that you would as
a pro wrestler.
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My name is Mike Cernovitch,
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and I'm a journalist,
author, and filmmaker.
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That's amazing.
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Alright so yeah I just
texted Scott Adams,
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which says, you know,
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hey Scott, my latest
film was on fake news.
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And one area we wanted to cover
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was the role cutting and
bias is playing fake news,
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as well as your
two movies theory.
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Would you be in for an
interview to discuss this?
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So I think Scott will do it.
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But that would be
what we would want
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to talk to him about.
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He's
in the bay area, right?
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Yeah he's
in the bay area.
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I am Scott Adams.
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I'm the creator of the
Dilbert comic strip.
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I'm a trained hypnotist
and have studied
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persuasion for decades.
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In persuasion, there's
a thing called framing.
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It's how you think
about a situation.
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People can frame things
very differently.
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And skilled persuaders
are especially good at it.
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And so it's something
I'm trained to do.
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Whoever gets there first,
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it's tough to get
that into your head.
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So going first makes
a big difference.
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I've started doing a lot of
live streaming on Periscope,
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and when there's a big story,
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I can be live to the
world within minutes.
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I just pick up my phone
and I'm live to the world.
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And the framing that
I put on things,
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I'm quite aware of the fact
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that because I'm both
persuasive by training,
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and I'm first, that my framing
is exceptionally sticky.
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A lot of what we
see as fake news
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is two movies playing
on one screen.
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So if you took a bunch of
the people on the right,
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and a bunch of the
people on the left,
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and put 'em in the same theater,
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and said, "Watch this movie."
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And when they left,
they would come out
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with completely different ideas
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of what they had just watched.
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Even though they had watched
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exactly the same thing.
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The
director of controversial
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documentary "The Red Pill"
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is in Australia to
promote her film,
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which has sparked protests.
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It's really
quite an experience
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to have fake news written
about you personally.
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It's happened to me
a number of times.
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Usually in the form of
somebody's imagining
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what's in my dark soul,
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and they imagine I hate
something almost always.
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That's completely off-base.
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Until it happens to you,
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and you see it repeatedly,
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you can't really understand
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how powerful the fake news is,
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how much it changes
real people's lives.
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And how widespread it is.
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Oh, fake news.
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Yes.
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And I think
people who have been
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printed in the media a lot
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can start to identify
who is fake news,
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because they know their
true story more than anyone.
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And they can see who's
not telling the truth.
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When I was 21, I
enlisted my mother
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as my producer and camera woman,
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and we hit the road filming,
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and made our first
film, "Daddy I Do,"
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which looked at women's rights.
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And that film was
really embraced
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and supported by
Planned Parenthood.
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They funded a northwestern
screening tour of the film,
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and flew us out, and we did
a bunch of the screenings
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and had dinner parties,
and it was wonderful,
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and it was really supported
in feminist circles.
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So we had a lot of success.
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And you know, everyone
was saying that we had,
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or that I had a bright
future as a filmmaker
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because of that film.
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And then my second
big feature film
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was about LGBT rights.
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And then I made a slough
of short films about,
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mostly about women's issues.
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And that was kind of my brand.
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That was my reputation.
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And I had a lot of
support in that.
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Okay.
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A controversial documentary
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on the men's rights movement
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has had screenings
in Melbourne canceled
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after a petition
claimed the film
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was misogynistic propaganda.
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Misogynist
propaganda, anti-women.
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It is absolutely
a propaganda film.
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It has tied up its moment.
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Her name is Cassie Jaye,
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and she made a lot of
people very very angered.
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You don't really question
their views in the film.
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Did you see the film?
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But why didn't you
ask him about that?
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I did ask them about that.
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Aren't generalizations
like that dangerous?
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Because your
publicist wouldn't
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send us the full thing.
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I sent you the screener link
actually to the full film.
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She doesn't actually
do the research.
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Though many of the
films backers are MRAs.
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This is just a conversation
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where we want to talk
about men and boys problems
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for just five minutes.
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Cassie, we're out of time.
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We'll have to leave it there.
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But thank you very much.
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Initially, I thought I
was gonna be making a film
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exposing men's rights activists
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as misogynist, rape
apologists, women-haters,
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trying to turn back the
clock on women's rights.
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And after that year
of filming 44 people,
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I realized that the film
I thought I was gonna make
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was not the truth
of the story I got.
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I didn't change my views
on gender equality.
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I actually expanded my
views on gender equality
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that we should consider
men in the equation.
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But they wanted to
make it seem like
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I was against women's rights.
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I mean, even some of
the interviews I did
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on Australian news,
the lower third
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where they would say the title
of the episode they're doing,
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one of the titles was,
"Filmmaker Changes Her Views
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On Gender Equality."
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To inference that I'm now
against women's rights,
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which couldn't be
further from the truth.
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But the project in Australia,
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they put together
a video package,
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setting me up as a monster.
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And in their graphics they said
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the Red Pill movie was funded
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by men's rights activists.
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Though many of
the films backers are MRAs.
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And it's just this
little soundbite
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in an effort to
discredit my entire
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last four years work.
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I did a Kickstarter campaign.
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Everyone knows no one
has creative control
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if you're a Kickstarter backer.
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They're a minority of
men's rights activists.
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A minority of feminists.
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And mostly people who
didn't identify as either.
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And you know, moving
forward with my career
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as a filmmaker, I don't know how
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this smear campaign will have
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impacted my future
opportunities.
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When I started to see the media
going after me, personally,
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like on the direct attack,
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trying to take down my
credibility and my reputation,
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I felt cheated and lied to
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for my entire
previous life before
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I became this public figure
with the smear campaign.
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I feel like how
can I have trusted
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anything they've ever said about
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all these other
people who I've seen
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smeared in the media before,
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and I believed what the
mainstream media said about them.
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First tonight,
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our report on the incendiary
radio host, Alex Jones.
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He's known for promoting
wild conspiracy theories.
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Over the years,
his YouTube channel
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has racked up 1.3 billion views.
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He has millions of listeners.
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And the ear of our
current president.
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Your reputation's amazing.
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I will not let you down.
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You will be impressed I hope.
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According to his own counsel,
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he is playing a character.
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But the idea that Jones
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doesn't necessarily
believe everything he says
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may take some of his
fans by surprise.
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He produces the show
from his basement.
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Broadcasting worldwide.
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I'm your host Alex Jones.
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So what is the state
of our world today?
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The quickening, the
intensification,
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the insanity, the wars.
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Why is Alex Jones in a
movie about fake news?
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In fact, I bet when
this film comes out,
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they're going to
have reviews saying,
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"Ha ha, look at the filmmakers.
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"To cover fake news, they talk
to the king of fake news."
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Wait a minute.
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Even if that was true,
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you'd want to talk to
the king of fake news.
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Mike Cernovich is
here with some amazing
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established filmmakers, putting
on this big film, "Hoaxed."
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Dealing with mainstream
media and fraud.
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And they asked me the
question, are you an actor.
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When I engage in
satire or acting,
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it's a joke when I
say those things.
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I'm gonna go say some horrible
things on air right now,
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to illustrate how the
globalists are sick freaks.
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It doesn't mean I
actually believe
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the things I'm about to say.
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Thing's really
tight on the eyes.
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So get ready, this
is Alex Jones.
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This is Alex Jones being
an actor, let's go.
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You'll never defeat
the human spirit!
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I'm liberal, huh, oh oh.
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I apologize, I apologize.
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Jesus forgive me.
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1776 will commence again
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if you try to take our firearms.
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We're such self-centered crap,
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that we don't even notice
hell itself rising up.
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I don't like 'em putting
chemicals in the water
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that turn the
freaking frogs gay.
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I've got the fire
of human liberty.
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I'm setting fires everywhere.
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And kids, Magellan's a lot
cooler than Justin Bieber!
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It doesn't bother me,
once you do it, whatever.
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I just, if you guys
want to put it out,
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just make sure if
you do do put it out,
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make sure people don't
have a pulled muscle.
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Just don't say I'm
a crazy person.
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Which I am kinda crazy already.
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But let me just start
over, here we go.
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I wear many hats.
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But 99% of the
time, I'm a father,
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I'm a patriot who
wants to simply
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research the facts
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so we can live in
a better world.
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And that's why since the
time I was 21 years old,
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I've been on air,
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because I've known there's
been a war on for our minds.
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The victory will be an
endorsement of a philosophy.
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Sir, shouldn't
we abolish the CFR?
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That's the real reality that
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none of you will talk about
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and most of you remembers.
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And I'm being drugged
out, laugh at it.
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We need whistle blowers,
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and we need whistle blowers
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who aren't afraid
of being smeared.
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Courageous people
that are willing
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to step into the limelight,
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and take the tomatoes
being thrown at them.
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My entire career
it's been about
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putting myself out there
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to take the hit first,
to draw the enemy out,
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so that more people wake
up to the larger picture.
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I knew Megyn Kelly was
coming here to destroy me.
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I knew she was coming here
to do the ultimate hit piece.
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And so I understood
that I had to basically
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take her attack on so that
I could use it as a way
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to educate my
listeners and viewers
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on the anatomy of a hit piece.
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I think why smear campaigns
happen to people like me
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is to send a warning
to other people
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to not go off the reservation
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and do something
like what I did.
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A warning to don't do that,
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or we're gonna do to
you what we did to her.
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Because when you're
one of the main subjects
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that's been chosen
to be destroyed,
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because they know
that what I promote
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really does symbolize
basic American values,
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if they can destroy that,
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they think they can really
hurt their real enemy.
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That's the American people.
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We gotta take this guy out.
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Why you gotta take me out?
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Because I'm not part of the
permanent political class.
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You gotta take me out 'cause
I'm a business executive,
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and I can smell the rotting
cadaver of Washington
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that sits in the basement
of the American public
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and the American community.
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And I'm ready to help
the American people
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remove the cadaver
from the basement.
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You see, the way
I was getting hit,
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one of my buddies said to me,
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you're getting hit like that
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because you can articulate
the President's strategy.
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I'm on BBC Newswatch,
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and I'm being
interviewed by Emily,
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and it's a live presentation.
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I've got the White
House behind me.
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And we're talking.
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It's over, I shake her hand.
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I'm walking to my
office in the West Wing.
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My cell phone's ringing.
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I pick up the cell phone.
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I'm not gonna tell
you who it was.
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But it was a person in
Republican opposition
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research for 30 years.
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They said, "Ant, you're
in a lot of trouble."
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He had great verbal
dexterity on BBC Newswatch,
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and they're now saying, my God,
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this guy might be able to
have tea with the queen.
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And I've gotten four
or five calls on you
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since you finished
that interview,
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saying what do you
got on this guy?
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They gotta find something on me.
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I sort of feel bad for them
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because they
figured I'm Italian,
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and I got 28 years
on Wall Street.
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I had to do something dishonest.
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So they spent seven
months ripping through
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my financial records
and background.
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Couldn't find anything,
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so they got me on
three curse words.
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Leak the
thing and see if I can
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block these people
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the way I can
Scaramucci for six months.
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They treated it like it was,
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I poured hot water
on a newborn baby.
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We had had hundreds of TV
networks and newspapers call us
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in the month before
Megyn Kelly called.
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And I refused all
the interviews,
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because I knew that
there was basically
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a bounty out to do a huge
deceptive hit piece on myself.
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And so when I heard
that Megyn Kelly
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was calling up my producer,
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being thickly sweet, saying,
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"Oh here's my cell phone number.
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"Please call me personally.
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"I'm really into Alex,
he's really cool."
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That right there was
a giant red flag.
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And as soon as I call her, boom.
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She wants to go out
to dinner with me.
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She's obsessed with me.
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She things I'm really handsome.
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But she thinks men that have
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a little pot belly
like me are sexy.
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That the best men look like me.
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These are exact things she said.
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So I got my other phone,
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and started recording
it on speakerphone.
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You know,
you just became
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very fascinating to me.
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I just sort of thought
you were this maybe
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one-dimensional guy,
like, this is your thing.
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She promised me that
it wasn't a hit piece.
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That she didn't even want
to get into the subjects
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like Sandy Hook.
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It's not gonna be
some gotcha hit piece.
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I promise you that.
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But of course,
once she got here,
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she uncloaked herself.
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Sandy Hook.
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9-11.
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That's a dodge.
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And she would
take pieces where
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I'd said one thing 20
minutes before, I love Satan.
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And edit that into something
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that was a completely
other subject
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to make it sound like
I was a stark raving
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babbling stuttering
volleyball or something.
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It's just...
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So the media, and
especially the fake news,
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can ruin lives fairly easily.
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I've had quite a bit of
fake news lobbed at me.
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Well the fake news
was that I had said
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negative things about women,
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which if you saw
them in context,
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you would understand
that they weren't.
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But out of context, whoa,
they sounded terrible.
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If I thought somebody
actually thought
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the things that
people said I thought,
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I would not like that person.
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00:18:26,533 --> 00:18:28,299
And if you think
somebody's evil,
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whatever comes
out of their mouth
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is gonna sound pretty evil.
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And if you think that
person is on your side,
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even if they say something
447
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that sounds a little bit evil,
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you're gonna say,
ah, that's Bob.
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He doesn't mean that.
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So we imagine we can see
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what's in the soul
of other people.
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It's the most classic
mistake you could make.
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You're not good at
peering into souls.
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You just think you are.
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Everybody thinks
they're good at it.
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Everybody's wrong.
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We're all terrible at it.
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And weirdly, we imagine
that these normal people
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who would be our friends
in any other context
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are actually like
monsters on the inside.
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00:19:04,571 --> 00:19:06,672
And it's pretty
rare that anybody's
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actually a monster
on the inside.
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This is the
spot where it was first seen.
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Where did it come from?
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What is it?
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They're bringing
crime, they're rapists.
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You know, I know nothing
about David Duke.
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00:19:34,869 --> 00:19:36,534
It's the end of
the world every day.
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00:19:36,536 --> 00:19:39,104
24 hour Trump horror fest.
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He tweeted again, you know.
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Civilization is collapsing.
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Never in the history
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of the United States,
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a monster of such
horrifying hatred of man.
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They claim that they
can hear dog whistles.
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Secret messages
embedded in the text.
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They have a special power
for hearing what you said
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without you actually saying it.
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We can disagree
with some or several
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of Trump's policies.
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I'm not here to
talk about politics.
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I'm talking about what he said,
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and how it compares
to what the media
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literally portrayed
him as saying.
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When Donald Trump kicked off
his presidential campaign
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at Trump Tower, he
goes down the escalator
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and he gives a speech
in which he says,
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"All Mexicans are rapists."
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This isn't just a
general impression.
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I mean, this is something
that was said repeatedly.
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On CNN, Time Magazine, CBS,
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Washington Post,
Politico, Huffington Post.
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00:20:34,929 --> 00:20:36,295
Repeatedly time and again,
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we find them
literally saying that
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Donald Trump said Mexican
immigrants are rapists.
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A horrifyingly disturbing,
and grotesque thing to say.
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If Donald Trump said that,
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then absolutely he
should drop out.
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00:20:50,111 --> 00:20:52,344
The fact of course is that's
not quite what he says.
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What he says is, "When
Mexico sends people,
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"they're not sending their best.
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00:20:56,984 --> 00:20:58,817
"They're sending people
that have lots of problems.
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"They're bringing drugs,
they're bringing crimes,
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"they're rapists, and some
I assume are good people."
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And what he did say,
you know, was graceless.
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It was inappropriate.
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But gosh, it wasn't,
he didn't say
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that all Mexicans are rapists.
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That's just not what he said.
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He's complaining that
somehow he thinks
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the Mexican
government is sending
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people that have
lots of problems.
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00:21:22,642 --> 00:21:25,844
But the media fixated
on two or three words.
514
00:21:25,846 --> 00:21:26,879
They are rapists.
515
00:21:26,881 --> 00:21:28,681
And decided that the
noun there must be
516
00:21:28,683 --> 00:21:32,017
the worst possible interpretation,
meaning all Mexicans.
517
00:21:32,019 --> 00:21:36,221
Every single Mexican,
children, nuns, old people,
518
00:21:36,223 --> 00:21:37,823
all of them are rapists,
519
00:21:37,825 --> 00:21:39,858
and what a shame that
Donald Trump said that.
520
00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:41,794
And he explained
himself repeatedly.
521
00:21:41,796 --> 00:21:44,997
He went around, praising
Mexicans, in multiple states,
522
00:21:44,999 --> 00:21:46,564
again and again, saying
they're good people,
523
00:21:46,566 --> 00:21:47,532
they're wonderful people.
524
00:21:47,534 --> 00:21:49,068
I want them to come in legally.
525
00:21:49,070 --> 00:21:50,402
The media never cared.
526
00:21:50,404 --> 00:21:52,338
What they cared about
was this cartoon
527
00:21:52,340 --> 00:21:54,873
to not echo a stereotype.
528
00:21:54,875 --> 00:21:57,977
Create a stereotype that
I had never even heard of
529
00:21:57,979 --> 00:21:59,878
that all Mexicans are rapists.
530
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,047
What's stunning about
these stories, these memes,
531
00:22:02,049 --> 00:22:05,351
is that even despite
they're being so incoherent,
532
00:22:05,353 --> 00:22:08,253
the media is able to just
keep them going endlessly
533
00:22:08,255 --> 00:22:10,356
by systematically neglecting
534
00:22:10,358 --> 00:22:12,758
every shred of evidence
against the story.
535
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,728
And reading between the
lines with everything
536
00:22:15,730 --> 00:22:17,262
that seems a little off color.
537
00:22:21,936 --> 00:22:23,235
So here's another meme.
538
00:22:23,237 --> 00:22:24,903
During the campaign,
539
00:22:24,905 --> 00:22:27,840
Donald Trump called
for the creation
540
00:22:27,842 --> 00:22:30,541
of a national
database, a registry,
541
00:22:30,543 --> 00:22:32,911
that would track all
Muslims in America.
542
00:22:32,913 --> 00:22:34,847
Every Muslim-American
would have to be
543
00:22:34,849 --> 00:22:36,382
registered in this thing,
544
00:22:36,384 --> 00:22:39,351
carry a special ID,
perhaps wear a badge.
545
00:22:39,353 --> 00:22:42,187
This was echoed in
countless many media.
546
00:22:42,189 --> 00:22:43,122
It's totally false.
547
00:22:43,124 --> 00:22:44,423
It just didn't happen.
548
00:22:44,425 --> 00:22:46,859
The proposal wasn't
created by Donald Trump.
549
00:22:46,861 --> 00:22:49,795
It was made by a Yahoo reporter.
550
00:22:49,797 --> 00:22:51,130
Do you
think we might need
551
00:22:51,132 --> 00:22:52,865
to register Muslims in
some type of database
552
00:22:52,867 --> 00:22:54,867
or note their
religion on their ID?
553
00:22:54,869 --> 00:22:57,903
This is Hunter
Walker, Yahoo News,
554
00:22:57,905 --> 00:22:59,271
asking this to Trump.
555
00:22:59,273 --> 00:23:00,571
And what did Trump do?
556
00:23:00,573 --> 00:23:02,908
He didn't answer the
question directly.
557
00:23:02,910 --> 00:23:04,910
You know, he's just
interested in sticking
558
00:23:04,912 --> 00:23:07,246
to his message and saying
the things he wants to say.
559
00:23:07,248 --> 00:23:08,947
It's known as the artful dodge.
560
00:23:08,949 --> 00:23:10,249
I mean, this is
something politicians
561
00:23:10,251 --> 00:23:11,984
have been doing
since for decades.
562
00:23:11,986 --> 00:23:13,986
Well, we're
gonna have to look
563
00:23:13,988 --> 00:23:15,988
at a lot of things very closely.
564
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:17,923
We're gonna have to
look at the mosques.
565
00:23:17,925 --> 00:23:20,793
We're gonna have to look
very, very carefully.
566
00:23:20,795 --> 00:23:23,162
He said look,
he said carefully.
567
00:23:23,164 --> 00:23:24,763
Now when Walker reports this,
568
00:23:24,765 --> 00:23:26,398
what he says that Trump says,
569
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,436
he says, "He wouldn't
rule it out."
570
00:23:30,438 --> 00:23:33,238
Then it becomes, "He
calls for the creation
571
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,506
"of a national database."
572
00:23:34,508 --> 00:23:36,842
And this expression
shows up on CNN.
573
00:23:36,844 --> 00:23:39,144
It shows up on the
cover of New York Times.
574
00:23:39,146 --> 00:23:40,913
The fascinating thing
is how they seem
575
00:23:40,915 --> 00:23:42,781
to play a game of telephone.
576
00:23:42,783 --> 00:23:45,818
Of taking not just what
Trump says and twisting it,
577
00:23:45,820 --> 00:23:47,820
but they'll take what
each other of them say
578
00:23:47,822 --> 00:23:49,855
that Trump said and
they'll add details,
579
00:23:49,857 --> 00:23:51,156
and Donald Trump again and again
580
00:23:51,158 --> 00:23:52,925
says I didn't say
that, that's false.
581
00:23:52,927 --> 00:23:53,959
This is ridiculous.
582
00:23:53,961 --> 00:23:56,161
I didn't start it, a
reporter suggested it.
583
00:23:56,163 --> 00:23:58,430
Did they apologize?
584
00:23:58,432 --> 00:24:00,466
Did they at any point
say, "You know what?
585
00:24:00,468 --> 00:24:03,202
"We want to go back over some
of these stories we said,
586
00:24:03,204 --> 00:24:07,172
"whether they're about religion
or Mexicans, or you know."
587
00:24:07,174 --> 00:24:08,841
Let's do a tally of how
many of these things
588
00:24:08,843 --> 00:24:10,608
we kind of twisted
out of proportion.
589
00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:12,377
No, they're more interested in
590
00:24:12,379 --> 00:24:16,215
people tripping up on
words rather than events.
591
00:24:16,217 --> 00:24:17,983
All kinds of things
happen in the world.
592
00:24:17,985 --> 00:24:19,785
Alarming important
urgent things.
593
00:24:19,787 --> 00:24:21,220
People die, people are dying.
594
00:24:21,222 --> 00:24:23,822
Serious things are
happening and instead,
595
00:24:23,824 --> 00:24:25,457
the sad state of the media is
596
00:24:25,459 --> 00:24:26,658
what are they obsessed with?
597
00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:28,327
What is their
number one concern?
598
00:24:28,329 --> 00:24:29,661
It's Twitter.
599
00:24:29,663 --> 00:24:32,064
I'm fascinated that
the media is obsessed
600
00:24:32,066 --> 00:24:33,966
with whatever little white lie
601
00:24:33,968 --> 00:24:36,003
they think that I
told on Twitter.
602
00:24:36,904 --> 00:24:39,071
How many people are
dying because of
603
00:24:39,073 --> 00:24:41,073
whatever they view
as being untrue,
604
00:24:41,075 --> 00:24:42,508
as being said by me?
605
00:24:42,510 --> 00:24:44,076
Now let's compare body counts.
606
00:24:44,078 --> 00:24:46,845
I'll gladly compare.
607
00:24:46,847 --> 00:24:49,982
They would have to frame me
for body counts and shootings.
608
00:24:49,984 --> 00:24:52,017
As they did with
the Pizzagate thing.
609
00:24:52,019 --> 00:24:53,252
I don't have to frame them.
610
00:24:53,254 --> 00:24:55,521
I just have to talk
about what they've done.
611
00:25:02,163 --> 00:25:04,265
I measure things in
terms of head count.
612
00:25:05,866 --> 00:25:08,235
The biggest head count of fake
news is communism as a whole.
613
00:25:10,938 --> 00:25:15,541
Reasonable estimates are
close to 100 million dead
614
00:25:15,543 --> 00:25:18,612
just in the 20th Century
from Communism alone.
615
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,215
There are a brutal number
of fake news stories
616
00:25:23,217 --> 00:25:26,752
covering up the hideous
nature of Communism,
617
00:25:26,754 --> 00:25:30,255
and given that the facts
are so easily available,
618
00:25:30,257 --> 00:25:32,925
given that the data is
so easily available,
619
00:25:32,927 --> 00:25:35,894
I really do more than question.
620
00:25:35,896 --> 00:25:38,764
I have nothing but
bottomless contempt
621
00:25:38,766 --> 00:25:40,232
for the people who
covered this stuff up.
622
00:25:40,234 --> 00:25:42,234
Because they are aiding abetting
623
00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:44,738
some of the greatest
genocides in human history.
624
00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:47,739
And we know that Walter
Duranty of the New York Times,
625
00:25:47,741 --> 00:25:48,974
well he got a Pulitzer
626
00:25:48,976 --> 00:25:51,877
for his reporting on the
Potemkin villages under Stalin.
627
00:25:51,879 --> 00:25:52,911
When he was toured
around, and oh,
628
00:25:52,913 --> 00:25:54,313
look at these fat happy workers.
629
00:25:54,315 --> 00:25:56,882
And they were just
taken out of the gulags,
630
00:25:56,884 --> 00:25:58,116
stuffed full of chicken,
631
00:25:58,118 --> 00:26:00,485
and thrown in front
of his eyeballs.
632
00:26:04,659 --> 00:26:06,124
At the Holodomor.
633
00:26:06,126 --> 00:26:09,094
One of the unbelievable
brutal and overlooked
634
00:26:09,096 --> 00:26:11,263
genocides in many ways.
635
00:26:11,265 --> 00:26:14,766
So, this is typically
the way that it works.
636
00:26:14,768 --> 00:26:15,767
In a free market,
637
00:26:15,769 --> 00:26:16,935
resources tend to accrue
638
00:26:16,937 --> 00:26:18,971
to the people who are
the most competent.
639
00:26:18,973 --> 00:26:20,639
And that's better for everyone.
640
00:26:20,641 --> 00:26:22,307
Because you want to
have enough to eat.
641
00:26:22,309 --> 00:26:25,177
So you want the land to end up
642
00:26:25,179 --> 00:26:27,479
under the control of the
most productive people.
643
00:26:27,481 --> 00:26:29,481
But the Communists
come along and say,
644
00:26:29,483 --> 00:26:31,083
okay, you're working
for this guy,
645
00:26:31,085 --> 00:26:32,851
not 'cause he's
smarter or works harder
646
00:26:32,853 --> 00:26:35,587
or takes more risks
or studies more,
647
00:26:35,589 --> 00:26:37,990
but because he's exploited you.
648
00:26:37,992 --> 00:26:39,625
He has stolen from you,
649
00:26:39,627 --> 00:26:41,827
and we're gonna get
back what is yours.
650
00:26:41,829 --> 00:26:43,028
We're gonna get back that land,
651
00:26:43,030 --> 00:26:45,097
and we're gonna split
it up among you.
652
00:26:45,099 --> 00:26:46,965
So what they did was they
went into the Ukraine,
653
00:26:46,967 --> 00:26:49,101
which was formerly called
the bread basket of Europe.
654
00:26:49,103 --> 00:26:51,136
The soil is so rich.
655
00:26:51,138 --> 00:26:53,171
I mean, it's just astonishing.
656
00:26:53,173 --> 00:26:54,707
And what they did was
they took the land
657
00:26:54,709 --> 00:26:56,642
from the most productive
people called the bourgeois.
658
00:26:56,644 --> 00:26:58,443
the cu lacks, the most
productive farmers,
659
00:26:58,445 --> 00:27:01,146
and then they shot or imprisoned
660
00:27:01,148 --> 00:27:02,682
or drove off those farmers.
661
00:27:02,684 --> 00:27:04,883
The starvation that resulted,
662
00:27:04,885 --> 00:27:07,021
I mean, unbelievably
horrifying stuff.
663
00:27:21,302 --> 00:27:22,669
This was all covered up.
664
00:27:22,671 --> 00:27:23,869
The reports were coming out.
665
00:27:23,871 --> 00:27:24,836
Just the reports were coming out
666
00:27:24,838 --> 00:27:25,837
about the Holocaust.
667
00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:27,039
The reports were coming out,
668
00:27:27,041 --> 00:27:28,407
but they did not examine it
669
00:27:28,409 --> 00:27:29,709
as much as they should have,
670
00:27:29,711 --> 00:27:30,642
and millions of
millions of people
671
00:27:30,644 --> 00:27:32,844
starved to death as a result.
672
00:27:32,846 --> 00:27:35,682
And that helped stretch
out the Communist regime
673
00:27:35,684 --> 00:27:37,750
for another couple of decades,
674
00:27:37,752 --> 00:27:40,385
and it helped to spread
the Communist regime
675
00:27:40,387 --> 00:27:42,087
to other places in the world.
676
00:27:42,089 --> 00:27:44,657
North Korea, Cambodia, China.
677
00:27:44,659 --> 00:27:46,191
You know, there was a time when
678
00:27:46,193 --> 00:27:48,994
a third of the planet was
under Communist dictatorship.
679
00:27:48,996 --> 00:27:51,196
That had a lot to do
with the intellectuals
680
00:27:51,198 --> 00:27:54,701
who came across and spewed
the propaganda they were fed.
681
00:27:54,703 --> 00:27:56,201
And they were happy
to do it because
682
00:27:56,203 --> 00:27:58,036
they wanted to save the system,
683
00:27:58,038 --> 00:28:00,740
not deal with the facts.
684
00:28:05,245 --> 00:28:06,578
There are still people out there
685
00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:08,180
with Karl Marx buttons.
686
00:28:08,182 --> 00:28:09,548
You know, you try
wearing a Hitler button.
687
00:28:09,550 --> 00:28:11,350
Hitler's head count was
far lower than Communism.
688
00:28:11,352 --> 00:28:13,051
You go out there with
a Karl Marx button,
689
00:28:13,053 --> 00:28:15,253
and people are like,
oh that's edgy.
690
00:28:15,255 --> 00:28:18,023
Or you know, Che
Guevara T shirt.
691
00:28:18,025 --> 00:28:23,030
And this proselytizing and
pumping up of Communism
692
00:28:24,198 --> 00:28:25,197
that happens, and we've
seen this recently.
693
00:28:25,199 --> 00:28:27,532
Women had better sex
lives in Soviet Russia.
694
00:28:27,534 --> 00:28:29,634
I mean, like okay, so sure.
695
00:28:29,636 --> 00:28:31,069
It's 100 million death count,
696
00:28:31,071 --> 00:28:33,105
but at least I get a
toe-clenching orgasm out of it.
697
00:28:33,107 --> 00:28:36,274
It's like, that's
horrifying, and horrible.
698
00:28:36,276 --> 00:28:38,076
Kind of weighing in the balance.
699
00:28:38,078 --> 00:28:41,146
The fact that North Korea
started as Communist state
700
00:28:41,148 --> 00:28:43,048
is very much overlooked.
701
00:28:43,050 --> 00:28:45,050
They had put these
Potemkin villages out there
702
00:28:45,052 --> 00:28:46,284
in North Korea as well,
703
00:28:46,286 --> 00:28:48,086
where you've got
these happy peasants
704
00:28:48,088 --> 00:28:49,454
who you see smiling and so on
705
00:28:49,456 --> 00:28:51,089
because they get
shot if the don't.
706
00:28:51,091 --> 00:28:54,426
We traveled about four
hours east of Pyongyang
707
00:28:54,428 --> 00:28:56,161
to visit a ski resort.
708
00:28:56,163 --> 00:28:58,397
We were also invited
here, I would suspect,
709
00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:01,500
because it is not what
people expect to see
710
00:29:01,502 --> 00:29:02,802
in North Korea.
711
00:29:02,804 --> 00:29:05,237
A modern ski resort.
712
00:29:05,239 --> 00:29:07,673
It's got patriotic
music and videos
713
00:29:07,675 --> 00:29:08,974
playing from a screen here,
714
00:29:08,976 --> 00:29:11,311
and a lot of families
out enjoying themselves.
715
00:29:12,747 --> 00:29:15,080
And the reason why
it's so sinister,
716
00:29:15,082 --> 00:29:16,849
which you've talked
about before, Mike,
717
00:29:16,851 --> 00:29:18,252
is that they want us dead.
718
00:29:19,153 --> 00:29:21,854
If you openly cover
up for a regime,
719
00:29:21,856 --> 00:29:23,288
that the first people targeted
720
00:29:23,290 --> 00:29:24,956
are people like you and me.
721
00:29:24,958 --> 00:29:28,260
I can't view this as a
merely ideological dispute.
722
00:29:28,262 --> 00:29:31,697
This is not an academic
difference in opinion,
723
00:29:31,699 --> 00:29:35,167
because if the system that
they want gets in power,
724
00:29:35,169 --> 00:29:37,670
myself, my friends,
my family, everything,
725
00:29:37,672 --> 00:29:39,306
will be the first to go.
726
00:29:42,543 --> 00:29:43,942
Read all about it.
727
00:29:43,944 --> 00:29:45,145
Latest football scores.
728
00:29:46,447 --> 00:29:48,613
Morning paper, morning star.
729
00:29:48,615 --> 00:29:49,882
Paper, mister?
730
00:29:49,884 --> 00:29:52,284
Your
daily newspaper.
731
00:29:52,286 --> 00:29:54,286
Well, this is familiar.
732
00:29:54,288 --> 00:29:56,123
Most of us read a
paper every day.
733
00:29:57,324 --> 00:30:00,459
The golden age of American
journalism in the 50s
734
00:30:00,461 --> 00:30:02,797
is sort of a myth.
735
00:30:04,965 --> 00:30:09,336
Perpetuated by Hollywood and
maybe journalists themselves,
736
00:30:10,872 --> 00:30:12,571
but it was golden in some ways.
737
00:30:12,573 --> 00:30:16,074
They were hard hitting
reporters out investigating,
738
00:30:16,076 --> 00:30:18,343
trying to break big stories.
739
00:30:18,345 --> 00:30:22,214
And that image of a
disheveled reporter
740
00:30:22,216 --> 00:30:25,317
who wants to get the
story no matter what,
741
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:28,253
in some way, is
representative of reality.
742
00:30:28,255 --> 00:30:30,388
They did publish
hard hitting stories.
743
00:30:30,390 --> 00:30:35,362
And print was king 'cause
TV was just baby stages.
744
00:30:36,396 --> 00:30:39,030
And there was a norm
of objectivity then.
745
00:30:39,032 --> 00:30:43,001
Editorial stayed on the
editorial pages, very much.
746
00:30:43,003 --> 00:30:47,038
And the news tended
to be very balanced,
747
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,708
and very fact-driven.
748
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:50,175
The editorial
writer must be able
749
00:30:50,177 --> 00:30:52,110
to write on many subjects.
750
00:30:52,112 --> 00:30:54,045
But instead of merely
reporting news,
751
00:30:54,047 --> 00:30:56,749
he analyzes it and
explains its meaning,
752
00:30:56,751 --> 00:30:59,284
often expressing his
personal opinions.
753
00:30:59,286 --> 00:31:02,120
He must reason
accurately and fairly,
754
00:31:02,122 --> 00:31:04,089
and write in an
interesting manner.
755
00:31:04,091 --> 00:31:06,893
There was also a different
culture at the time
756
00:31:06,895 --> 00:31:10,395
which was that objective
truth does exist.
757
00:31:10,397 --> 00:31:12,732
And that there are
consequences for lying
758
00:31:12,734 --> 00:31:15,100
and doing this in the afterlife.
759
00:31:15,102 --> 00:31:20,107
Journalists, whether they were
practicing Christians or not,
760
00:31:20,942 --> 00:31:22,407
brought in this American ethic,
761
00:31:22,409 --> 00:31:26,812
which included God,
absolute truth,
762
00:31:26,814 --> 00:31:29,782
also this idea that yes,
there are objective facts
763
00:31:29,784 --> 00:31:32,417
that we can find and report.
764
00:31:32,419 --> 00:31:35,086
To be successful today,
765
00:31:35,088 --> 00:31:37,558
a newspaper must
contain all the elements
766
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,827
of the best journalism
to fill the needs
767
00:31:41,829 --> 00:31:43,463
of modern newspaper readers.
768
00:31:44,766 --> 00:31:48,968
But beyond that, it must
inspire complete confidence
769
00:31:48,970 --> 00:31:50,335
in its integrity.
770
00:31:50,337 --> 00:31:53,505
One of the key
bits of information
771
00:31:53,507 --> 00:31:55,607
is a study that I did
772
00:31:55,609 --> 00:31:58,678
that fits right into the
golden age of journalism
773
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,279
that looks at American
newspaper editorials
774
00:32:01,281 --> 00:32:04,282
from 1958 to 1970.
775
00:32:04,284 --> 00:32:05,651
And so starting in 58,
776
00:32:05,653 --> 00:32:08,520
I found that all of these papers
777
00:32:08,522 --> 00:32:10,825
leaned a little
bit to the right.
778
00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:13,594
Surprise.
779
00:32:15,128 --> 00:32:16,762
But between 58 and 70,
780
00:32:16,764 --> 00:32:21,769
there was a dramatic shift
to the left, much more so.
781
00:32:22,937 --> 00:32:25,705
And I mean, it is
almost a straight line
782
00:32:25,707 --> 00:32:28,306
and showed no signs of changing.
783
00:32:28,308 --> 00:32:33,313
And informally, I looked
at some contemporary
784
00:32:33,982 --> 00:32:35,347
editorials the same way
785
00:32:35,349 --> 00:32:37,284
from some of those major papers.
786
00:32:38,352 --> 00:32:40,518
And found them up there.
787
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,489
And so we see this shift
during that time in the 60s
788
00:32:44,491 --> 00:32:48,360
to a much more
liberal orientation.
789
00:32:48,362 --> 00:32:52,297
Additionally, the way the
editorials were crafted changed,
790
00:32:52,299 --> 00:32:54,366
which I think reflects a change
791
00:32:54,368 --> 00:32:57,638
in the news culture and
the culture of the country.
792
00:32:59,506 --> 00:33:01,373
In the late 50s, we found,
793
00:33:01,375 --> 00:33:03,375
even if they leaned one way,
794
00:33:03,377 --> 00:33:05,377
or supported one policy,
795
00:33:05,379 --> 00:33:10,384
they still offered a healthy
clash of those issues.
796
00:33:11,585 --> 00:33:13,485
And so you kind
of got both sides.
797
00:33:13,487 --> 00:33:16,323
And you had room to disagree.
798
00:33:17,357 --> 00:33:22,362
As we progress further
to 1970, that stops,
799
00:33:23,831 --> 00:33:28,335
and it becomes more polemic
and less an argument.
800
00:33:31,605 --> 00:33:36,508
I think one of the main
considerations for that change
801
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,412
was the cultural revolution.
802
00:33:42,416 --> 00:33:45,084
We start to see a new generation
803
00:33:45,086 --> 00:33:46,919
coming into power.
804
00:33:46,921 --> 00:33:50,290
And we now have the creation
of a liberal environment.
805
00:33:51,625 --> 00:33:56,128
And let's not forget some
of the formative documents
806
00:33:56,130 --> 00:33:58,630
that came out of Students
for a Democratic Society
807
00:33:58,632 --> 00:34:00,966
in the early 60s.
808
00:34:00,968 --> 00:34:03,936
And they quite
clearly stated that
809
00:34:03,938 --> 00:34:06,772
student progressives
needed to move in
810
00:34:06,774 --> 00:34:10,208
to the major institutions
of this country
811
00:34:10,210 --> 00:34:12,277
to affect change.
812
00:34:12,279 --> 00:34:13,645
We're gonna be in the streets
813
00:34:13,647 --> 00:34:15,748
and in every institution in
this country from now on.
814
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:17,582
The media, the news media,
815
00:34:17,584 --> 00:34:20,585
was one of those institutions
that was targeted.
816
00:34:20,587 --> 00:34:22,755
We're gonna replace
capitalism with socialism.
817
00:34:22,757 --> 00:34:27,592
There was also
some dissatisfaction
818
00:34:27,594 --> 00:34:30,562
with the federal
government in terms of
819
00:34:30,564 --> 00:34:32,164
its forthrightness with what was
820
00:34:32,166 --> 00:34:34,599
going on in Vietnam.
821
00:34:34,601 --> 00:34:37,569
As trust was lost,
822
00:34:37,571 --> 00:34:39,637
there was more
willingness to oppose.
823
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,474
So it was many factors engaging.
824
00:34:42,476 --> 00:34:45,445
And now it's gone
all the way now.
825
00:34:46,613 --> 00:34:48,848
For we are opposed
around the world
826
00:34:48,850 --> 00:34:52,450
by a monolithic and
ruthless conspiracy
827
00:34:52,452 --> 00:34:55,520
that relies primarily
on covet means.
828
00:34:55,522 --> 00:34:58,090
For expanding its
sphere of influence.
829
00:34:58,092 --> 00:35:00,525
We have been compelled
to create a permanent
830
00:35:00,527 --> 00:35:03,361
ominous industry of
vast proportions.
831
00:35:03,363 --> 00:35:06,297
It is a system
which has conscripted
832
00:35:06,299 --> 00:35:09,334
vast human and
material resources
833
00:35:09,336 --> 00:35:11,603
into the building
of a tightly knit,
834
00:35:11,605 --> 00:35:13,773
highly efficient machine
835
00:35:13,775 --> 00:35:17,042
that combines
military, diplomatic,
836
00:35:17,044 --> 00:35:20,179
intelligence,
economic, scientific,
837
00:35:20,181 --> 00:35:21,680
and political operations.
838
00:35:21,682 --> 00:35:24,216
We must guard
against the acquisition
839
00:35:24,218 --> 00:35:25,885
of unwarranted influence,
840
00:35:25,887 --> 00:35:27,820
whether sought or unsought,
841
00:35:27,822 --> 00:35:31,056
by the military
industrial complex.
842
00:35:31,058 --> 00:35:34,626
Its preparations are
concealed, not published.
843
00:35:34,628 --> 00:35:37,730
Its mistakes are
buried, not headlined.
844
00:35:37,732 --> 00:35:41,133
Its dissenters are
silenced, not praised.
845
00:35:41,135 --> 00:35:44,369
Only an alert and
knowledgeable citizen
846
00:35:44,371 --> 00:35:46,705
can compel the proper meshing
847
00:35:46,707 --> 00:35:48,874
of the huge industrial
and military
848
00:35:48,876 --> 00:35:50,676
machinery of defense,
849
00:35:50,678 --> 00:35:53,344
with our peaceful
methods and goals.
850
00:35:53,346 --> 00:35:55,748
And so it is
to the printing press,
851
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:58,250
to the recorder of man's deeds,
852
00:35:58,252 --> 00:36:01,720
that we look for
strength and assistance.
853
00:36:01,722 --> 00:36:04,023
Confident that with your help,
854
00:36:04,025 --> 00:36:07,059
man will be what
he was born to be,
855
00:36:07,061 --> 00:36:08,229
free and independent.
856
00:36:17,504 --> 00:36:22,373
I saw the Iraqi soldiers come
into the hospital with guns.
857
00:36:22,375 --> 00:36:24,578
They took the babies
out of the incubators.
858
00:36:28,049 --> 00:36:30,381
Took the incubators,
and left the children
859
00:36:30,383 --> 00:36:32,218
to die on the cold floor.
860
00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:33,886
Babies pulled from incubators
861
00:36:33,888 --> 00:36:36,691
and scattered like
firewood across the floor.
862
00:36:37,624 --> 00:36:39,390
And they were thrown
out of the incubators
863
00:36:39,392 --> 00:36:43,561
so that Kuwait could be
systematically dismantled.
864
00:36:43,563 --> 00:36:44,697
It was horrifying.
865
00:36:44,699 --> 00:36:47,632
This war may be
beginning right now.
866
00:36:47,634 --> 00:36:50,970
Two hours ago, allied
air forces began an attack
867
00:36:50,972 --> 00:36:53,873
on military targets
in Iraq and Kuwait.
868
00:36:53,875 --> 00:36:55,475
The inevitable has happened.
869
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,446
A woman testified
before Congress
870
00:37:01,448 --> 00:37:04,116
that Iraqi soldiers had
gone into the nursery
871
00:37:04,118 --> 00:37:05,751
of a Kuwaiti hospital,
872
00:37:05,753 --> 00:37:07,086
and they were taking babies,
873
00:37:07,088 --> 00:37:08,787
and lifting them out
of the incubators,
874
00:37:08,789 --> 00:37:11,589
and throwing them onto the
ground and smashing them.
875
00:37:11,591 --> 00:37:13,292
This is a horrific visual.
876
00:37:13,294 --> 00:37:15,393
And public sentiment was against
877
00:37:15,395 --> 00:37:17,629
the first war in Iraq,
878
00:37:17,631 --> 00:37:20,099
until that very
important testimony
879
00:37:20,101 --> 00:37:22,469
was spread far and wide.
880
00:37:23,771 --> 00:37:24,803
Well as it turns out,
881
00:37:24,805 --> 00:37:26,906
she was actually the daughter
882
00:37:26,908 --> 00:37:28,674
of one of the crown
prince's of Kuwait.
883
00:37:28,676 --> 00:37:30,642
It's a completely
fabricated story
884
00:37:30,644 --> 00:37:33,511
that had been orchestrated
by a major PR firm.
885
00:37:33,513 --> 00:37:35,480
They had spent millions
of dollars on it,
886
00:37:35,482 --> 00:37:37,349
and it was completely fake.
887
00:37:37,351 --> 00:37:39,752
But the media would
incredulously spread that.
888
00:37:39,754 --> 00:37:44,759
They give amplification to
a message that they like.
889
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,293
And then if that message
turns out to be false,
890
00:37:47,295 --> 00:37:49,662
they say, well all we
do is report the news.
891
00:37:49,664 --> 00:37:51,429
Even though you chose
to report that, though.
892
00:37:51,431 --> 00:37:52,865
You chose to amplify that.
893
00:37:52,867 --> 00:37:57,038
You chose to splice that
clip and air it non-stop.
894
00:37:58,806 --> 00:38:02,343
Fool me once, shame on,
895
00:38:04,312 --> 00:38:05,443
shame on you.
896
00:38:05,445 --> 00:38:06,845
Every statement I make today
897
00:38:06,847 --> 00:38:08,380
is backed up by sources.
898
00:38:08,382 --> 00:38:09,848
Solid sources.
899
00:38:09,850 --> 00:38:11,850
Fool me, you can't
get fooled again.
900
00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:19,358
So the second war in Iraq
was also based on a lie
901
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,727
propagated by the
New York Times.
902
00:38:21,729 --> 00:38:23,329
Iraq has
made several attempts
903
00:38:23,331 --> 00:38:25,331
to buy high strength
aluminum tubes
904
00:38:25,333 --> 00:38:28,233
used to enrich uranium
for a nuclear weapon.
905
00:38:28,235 --> 00:38:30,135
The kinds of tubes
that are necessary
906
00:38:30,137 --> 00:38:31,737
to build a centrifuge.
907
00:38:31,739 --> 00:38:33,538
First of all, the New
York Times was not alone.
908
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:35,975
Almost every paper
in the country
909
00:38:35,977 --> 00:38:38,243
was reporting this, and network.
910
00:38:38,245 --> 00:38:39,878
There was a consensus.
911
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,513
I think what I did wrong was
912
00:38:42,515 --> 00:38:45,150
I wasn't permitted by
my paper to go back
913
00:38:45,152 --> 00:38:48,087
and look at those stories
when we had more information.
914
00:38:48,089 --> 00:38:50,656
One person might say,
Cernovich, you're wrong.
915
00:38:50,658 --> 00:38:52,891
All the media did was
report on information
916
00:38:52,893 --> 00:38:54,860
given to them by the government.
917
00:38:54,862 --> 00:38:57,062
And I would say, well
that's fascinating.
918
00:38:57,064 --> 00:38:59,765
You must think that I don't
have a very good memory,
919
00:38:59,767 --> 00:39:02,500
because when I
read Twitter today,
920
00:39:02,502 --> 00:39:03,702
and I read a paper today,
921
00:39:03,704 --> 00:39:05,871
they say you can't trust Trump.
922
00:39:05,873 --> 00:39:07,072
He's such a liar.
923
00:39:07,074 --> 00:39:08,707
You can't trust the government.
924
00:39:08,709 --> 00:39:11,377
Our job as journalists is to
fight against the government.
925
00:39:11,379 --> 00:39:12,711
I see that every day.
926
00:39:12,713 --> 00:39:14,579
But if there's a war,
927
00:39:14,581 --> 00:39:16,115
we just accept
everything as true.
928
00:39:16,117 --> 00:39:18,616
And it is our duty
as loyal Americans
929
00:39:18,618 --> 00:39:21,120
to shut up once the
fighting begins.
930
00:39:22,589 --> 00:39:25,758
We entered the 50th
anniversary of the Vietnam war.
931
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,625
My fellow Americans.
932
00:39:27,627 --> 00:39:28,927
The Gulf of Tonkin incident
933
00:39:28,929 --> 00:39:31,463
was the basis for
the War in Vietnam,
934
00:39:31,465 --> 00:39:34,967
which cost between 50 and
75,000 American lives.
935
00:39:34,969 --> 00:39:36,869
Many peoples lives were ruined.
936
00:39:36,871 --> 00:39:38,971
Mental illnesses, PTSD.
937
00:39:38,973 --> 00:39:41,740
Well that was another lie.
938
00:39:41,742 --> 00:39:44,243
Let's look at, we got
three big wars in America.
939
00:39:44,245 --> 00:39:45,911
You see a lot of lies.
940
00:39:45,913 --> 00:39:47,880
So where is the soul searching
941
00:39:47,882 --> 00:39:49,915
by these large
mainstream outlets?
942
00:39:49,917 --> 00:39:50,985
I would like to see that.
943
00:39:54,855 --> 00:39:55,988
If you look at the
mainstream media,
944
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:57,890
they are in lock
stead with either
945
00:39:57,892 --> 00:39:59,758
the Pentagon or the
State Department.
946
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,627
Or officials that clearly
do have an agenda.
947
00:40:02,629 --> 00:40:04,763
It's a self sustaining
relationship.
948
00:40:04,765 --> 00:40:06,765
Any empire, any corporation,
949
00:40:06,767 --> 00:40:08,801
any person knows
that the only thing
950
00:40:08,803 --> 00:40:11,072
that could ever take
them down is the truth.
951
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,345
Do you have any
people being paid
952
00:40:19,346 --> 00:40:24,351
by the CIA who are contributing
953
00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:29,855
to a major circulation,
American Journal?
954
00:40:29,857 --> 00:40:32,157
We do have people
who submit pieces
955
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:34,128
to American Journal.
956
00:40:35,429 --> 00:40:38,430
Fake corporate news
media is nothing new.
957
00:40:38,432 --> 00:40:39,965
It's just more financed today.
958
00:40:39,967 --> 00:40:41,767
A lot bigger, a lot slicker.
959
00:40:41,769 --> 00:40:44,803
Back in the 40s, 50s,
60s, 70s, and 80s,
960
00:40:44,805 --> 00:40:46,705
there was Project Mockingbird
961
00:40:46,707 --> 00:40:49,341
that Senator Frank
Church's committee exposed.
962
00:40:49,343 --> 00:40:51,176
Where the CIA and other agencies
963
00:40:51,178 --> 00:40:53,712
had key people
throughout positions
964
00:40:53,714 --> 00:40:56,949
in the mainstream media
to put out fake news,
965
00:40:56,951 --> 00:40:59,785
or to kill stories when
they needed it done.
966
00:40:59,787 --> 00:41:03,989
They infiltrated high
ranking media organizations
967
00:41:03,991 --> 00:41:05,623
all around the United States.
968
00:41:05,625 --> 00:41:07,993
And were working
not only with them,
969
00:41:07,995 --> 00:41:11,130
but reporting as if they
were neutral journalists.
970
00:41:11,132 --> 00:41:13,966
When they were
pushing an agenda.
971
00:41:13,968 --> 00:41:15,033
The planted story is intended
972
00:41:15,035 --> 00:41:17,238
to serve a national
purpose abroad,
973
00:41:18,472 --> 00:41:23,344
came home and were
circulated here,
974
00:41:24,011 --> 00:41:25,310
and believed here.
975
00:41:25,312 --> 00:41:27,079
Operation Mockingbird
should make everyone
976
00:41:27,081 --> 00:41:31,049
think twice about the
news and information
977
00:41:31,051 --> 00:41:32,050
and where it comes from,
978
00:41:32,052 --> 00:41:34,653
and how it could be
weaponized against you,
979
00:41:34,655 --> 00:41:36,155
which I think is
happening right now
980
00:41:36,157 --> 00:41:38,023
at a very severe level.
981
00:41:38,025 --> 00:41:40,726
And now, we have Jeff Bezos,
982
00:41:40,728 --> 00:41:42,661
one of the richest
men in the world,
983
00:41:42,663 --> 00:41:45,264
close to 100 billion
dollars in wealth,
984
00:41:45,266 --> 00:41:48,033
with his oligopoly Amazon,
985
00:41:48,035 --> 00:41:52,604
getting 600 million dollar
contract from the CIA
986
00:41:52,606 --> 00:41:56,074
to house their
servers while he uses
987
00:41:56,076 --> 00:41:58,577
the Washington Post that he owns
988
00:41:58,579 --> 00:42:02,014
as a warfare machine
against President Trump
989
00:42:02,016 --> 00:42:03,582
and the American people.
990
00:42:03,584 --> 00:42:06,351
I was supported by the
Central Intelligence Agency,
991
00:42:06,353 --> 00:42:07,886
by the CIA.
992
00:42:07,888 --> 00:42:10,055
This one great German
journalist came out and said,
993
00:42:10,057 --> 00:42:11,857
yeah, the CIA wrote
headlines for me.
994
00:42:11,859 --> 00:42:13,058
They told me what to say.
995
00:42:13,060 --> 00:42:15,027
There's many countries
where this happens.
996
00:42:15,029 --> 00:42:19,097
Where you find people to claim
997
00:42:19,099 --> 00:42:21,133
they are respected journalists,
998
00:42:21,135 --> 00:42:22,801
but if you look behind them,
999
00:42:22,803 --> 00:42:25,804
you'll find they are
puppets on a string
1000
00:42:25,806 --> 00:42:28,040
of the Central
Intelligence Agency.
1001
00:42:28,042 --> 00:42:30,809
Obama signed a Ministry
of Truth into action
1002
00:42:30,811 --> 00:42:34,479
before he left, to use
US intelligence agencies
1003
00:42:34,481 --> 00:42:35,981
against the American people.
1004
00:42:35,983 --> 00:42:37,482
Now critics argue
the act allows
1005
00:42:37,484 --> 00:42:40,786
the US government to censor
some news as propaganda,
1006
00:42:40,788 --> 00:42:42,921
and push government
agenda, in other words,
1007
00:42:42,923 --> 00:42:45,624
government propaganda,
on the US citizens,
1008
00:42:45,626 --> 00:42:47,793
usually by way of
labeling inconvenient
1009
00:42:47,795 --> 00:42:49,895
stories as fake news.
1010
00:42:49,897 --> 00:42:51,664
Propaganda is now legal.
1011
00:42:51,666 --> 00:42:53,465
Yes, legal, not illegal.
1012
00:42:53,467 --> 00:42:55,434
It used to be illegal,
1013
00:42:55,436 --> 00:42:59,137
according to a 1940
law, Smith, Month, Act,
1014
00:42:59,139 --> 00:43:00,172
something like that.
1015
00:43:00,174 --> 00:43:01,340
Because three years ago,
1016
00:43:01,342 --> 00:43:03,344
wrapped inside the 2013 NDAA
1017
00:43:04,612 --> 00:43:06,478
was an amendment
that removed the ban
1018
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,080
on the US government,
1019
00:43:08,082 --> 00:43:11,083
creating propaganda, and then
showing it to US citizens.
1020
00:43:11,085 --> 00:43:13,118
A lot of people who claim
that they're journalists,
1021
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,286
they're just repeaters.
1022
00:43:14,288 --> 00:43:15,520
They get a press release,
1023
00:43:15,522 --> 00:43:17,155
and they just rewrite
the press release.
1024
00:43:17,157 --> 00:43:19,157
I was actually able
to uncover something
1025
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:24,162
that really made me feel
defrauded as a journalist.
1026
00:43:24,164 --> 00:43:26,666
Not only our sources, we
found out that Bahrain
1027
00:43:26,668 --> 00:43:29,034
is a paying customer at CNN.
1028
00:43:29,036 --> 00:43:32,004
They've also produced
similar content for Georgia,
1029
00:43:32,006 --> 00:43:35,007
Kazakhstan, and other
nations as well, Lebanon.
1030
00:43:35,009 --> 00:43:36,808
Look, if CNN's
corporate bosses
1031
00:43:36,810 --> 00:43:39,712
want to worship dictatorships,
that's their right.
1032
00:43:39,714 --> 00:43:42,715
But when they're getting paid
by the dictatorships to do it,
1033
00:43:42,717 --> 00:43:44,983
in my view, that's criminal,
1034
00:43:44,985 --> 00:43:46,985
and it's downright
anti-American.
1035
00:43:46,987 --> 00:43:49,223
I was accused of
leaking secrets of states.
1036
00:43:51,191 --> 00:43:53,294
Six times, house searched.
1037
00:43:54,795 --> 00:43:59,164
Well, they hoped that I
wouldn't do that ever again.
1038
00:43:59,166 --> 00:44:00,733
I don't mind what will happen.
1039
00:44:00,735 --> 00:44:04,069
I've had three heart
attacks, I have no children.
1040
00:44:04,071 --> 00:44:07,172
So if they want to bring
me to court or to prison,
1041
00:44:07,174 --> 00:44:09,576
so it's worth for the truth.
1042
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,481
The truth won't die.
1043
00:44:17,151 --> 00:44:18,583
Decades ago, it
used to be the case
1044
00:44:18,585 --> 00:44:21,987
that news divisions did their
investigative reporting,
1045
00:44:21,989 --> 00:44:23,322
operating in a loss.
1046
00:44:23,324 --> 00:44:25,090
They did so in the
public interest.
1047
00:44:25,092 --> 00:44:26,992
That's gone by the wayside.
1048
00:44:26,994 --> 00:44:29,828
These days, news
organizations do specifically
1049
00:44:29,830 --> 00:44:32,164
what behooves their bottom line.
1050
00:44:32,166 --> 00:44:34,767
Hi, my name is James O'Keefe.
1051
00:44:34,769 --> 00:44:36,168
I'm from Project Veritas.
1052
00:44:36,170 --> 00:44:38,437
Project Veritas started
with the mission
1053
00:44:38,439 --> 00:44:40,839
of investigating,
exposing waste, fraud,
1054
00:44:40,841 --> 00:44:43,676
abuse, corruption,
dishonesty, self-dealing,
1055
00:44:43,678 --> 00:44:46,345
in order to make a more ethical
and transparent society.
1056
00:44:46,347 --> 00:44:48,547
In order to do that, we
have to go undercover
1057
00:44:48,549 --> 00:44:50,549
because a lot of these
people are not gonna tell us
1058
00:44:50,551 --> 00:44:52,117
on the record what's happening.
1059
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:53,686
One story has monopolized
1060
00:44:53,688 --> 00:44:56,555
President Trump's time
in office like no other.
1061
00:44:56,557 --> 00:44:58,691
Especially on CNN.
1062
00:44:58,693 --> 00:44:59,858
Russia.
1063
00:44:59,860 --> 00:45:01,293
In fact, since the inauguration,
1064
00:45:01,295 --> 00:45:04,262
CNN has mentioned
Russia on their air
1065
00:45:04,264 --> 00:45:07,099
nearly 16,000 times.
1066
00:45:07,101 --> 00:45:10,102
So we sent our undercover
reporters inside CNN
1067
00:45:10,104 --> 00:45:12,237
to understand why.
1068
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,473
Then why
is CNN constantly like,
1069
00:45:14,475 --> 00:45:16,575
Russia this, Russia that?
1070
00:45:16,577 --> 00:45:17,876
Because it's ratings.
1071
00:45:17,878 --> 00:45:19,411
If it's all just
because of ratings,
1072
00:45:19,413 --> 00:45:21,646
if it's all just for money,
1073
00:45:21,648 --> 00:45:26,618
if his own staff, more than
one person thinks that it's BS.
1074
00:45:26,620 --> 00:45:29,087
The Russia thing is
just a big nothing burger.
1075
00:45:29,089 --> 00:45:29,888
Really?
1076
00:45:29,890 --> 00:45:31,089
Yeah.
1077
00:45:31,091 --> 00:45:32,157
It's mostly
bullshit right now.
1078
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:36,928
Like, we don't have
any big giant proof.
1079
00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:40,399
And they're doing it in
order to make money only.
1080
00:45:40,401 --> 00:45:42,567
All the nice
cutesy little ethics
1081
00:45:42,569 --> 00:45:44,771
that used to get talked
about in journalism school,
1082
00:45:44,773 --> 00:45:47,305
you're just like,
that's adorable.
1083
00:45:48,642 --> 00:45:49,744
That's adorable.
1084
00:45:52,179 --> 00:45:53,578
Yeah, this is a business.
1085
00:45:53,580 --> 00:45:55,113
That's something the
American people need to see.
1086
00:45:55,115 --> 00:45:57,416
I'm not making a value
judgment about it.
1087
00:45:57,418 --> 00:45:59,351
But that's information
that people need to see.
1088
00:45:59,353 --> 00:46:01,520
And that's the real, the
heart of the matter is
1089
00:46:01,522 --> 00:46:03,188
journalism is about
exposing things
1090
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:04,356
for what they really are.
1091
00:46:04,358 --> 00:46:07,025
And there's a lot of
powerful interests
1092
00:46:07,027 --> 00:46:09,294
that do not want things exposed
1093
00:46:09,296 --> 00:46:11,163
for how they actually are.
1094
00:46:11,165 --> 00:46:12,497
People go in the media.
1095
00:46:12,499 --> 00:46:14,533
Journalists, would be
journalists, would say,
1096
00:46:14,535 --> 00:46:16,635
Cernovich, you just want clicks.
1097
00:46:16,637 --> 00:46:18,537
All you care about
is page views.
1098
00:46:18,539 --> 00:46:21,306
These are the people who
live and die by ratings.
1099
00:46:21,308 --> 00:46:23,975
These are the people who
the minute the show's over,
1100
00:46:23,977 --> 00:46:26,846
they're waiting for the
ratings to be uploaded.
1101
00:46:26,848 --> 00:46:28,881
If there's a way to start a war,
1102
00:46:28,883 --> 00:46:31,818
and get America involved in
another major massive war,
1103
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:33,886
all the media companies
stand to make a lot of money.
1104
00:46:33,888 --> 00:46:35,287
Nobody talks about that.
1105
00:46:35,289 --> 00:46:36,988
For example, when
there was a major
1106
00:46:36,990 --> 00:46:38,693
terrorist attack in France,
1107
00:46:39,894 --> 00:46:42,294
the images of dead
babies were blurred,
1108
00:46:42,296 --> 00:46:43,696
and we were told by the media
1109
00:46:43,698 --> 00:46:48,300
never show, never show dead
children on television.
1110
00:46:48,302 --> 00:46:49,568
This is too horrific.
1111
00:46:49,570 --> 00:46:50,368
This is not what we're about.
1112
00:46:50,370 --> 00:46:51,303
You can't do it.
1113
00:46:51,305 --> 00:46:52,839
This is what we're told, right?
1114
00:46:52,841 --> 00:46:55,340
But then suddenly
we have a story
1115
00:46:55,342 --> 00:46:56,508
about Assad gassing his people,
1116
00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:59,311
and a lot of people
want war in Syria.
1117
00:46:59,313 --> 00:47:01,213
Well not only do they
accept the conclusion
1118
00:47:01,215 --> 00:47:02,581
that Assad gassed his own people
1119
00:47:02,583 --> 00:47:04,349
without any real evidence.
1120
00:47:04,351 --> 00:47:09,221
But now they post images of
dead babies on television.
1121
00:47:09,223 --> 00:47:12,023
And in the newspapers,
and post those pictures.
1122
00:47:12,025 --> 00:47:16,361
Tonight I ordered a
targeted military strike.
1123
00:47:16,363 --> 00:47:17,663
The President again
1124
00:47:17,665 --> 00:47:20,198
citing the disturbing
video of Tuesday's horrific
1125
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,703
chemical attack as a major
influence on his decision.
1126
00:47:23,705 --> 00:47:26,371
A dizzying turnaround
for an administration
1127
00:47:26,373 --> 00:47:29,508
that just days ago declared
that their priority
1128
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:33,278
was not to oust Syrian President
Bashar Al Assad from power.
1129
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,181
Donald Trump became
President of the United States.
1130
00:47:36,183 --> 00:47:37,683
I think this was
actually a big moment.
1131
00:47:37,685 --> 00:47:41,286
The media makes a massive
amount of money with wars,
1132
00:47:41,288 --> 00:47:43,255
because then you have
nonstop coverage,
1133
00:47:43,257 --> 00:47:45,725
embedded journalists,
hot new footage.
1134
00:47:45,727 --> 00:47:47,425
Watch this latest bombing drop.
1135
00:47:47,427 --> 00:47:49,227
Watch this latest fire fight.
1136
00:47:49,229 --> 00:47:51,797
We see these beautiful
pictures at night
1137
00:47:51,799 --> 00:47:55,534
from the decks of these
two US Navy vessels
1138
00:47:55,536 --> 00:47:57,770
in the Eastern Mediterranean.
1139
00:47:57,772 --> 00:48:00,773
I am tempted to quote
the great Leonard Cohen.
1140
00:48:00,775 --> 00:48:03,241
I'm guided by the
beauty of our weapons.
1141
00:48:03,243 --> 00:48:05,711
And they are beautiful pictures.
1142
00:48:05,713 --> 00:48:06,979
They make a ton
of money doing that.
1143
00:48:06,981 --> 00:48:08,814
Not only that, but their
parent corporations
1144
00:48:08,816 --> 00:48:10,415
and these media
holding companies
1145
00:48:10,417 --> 00:48:13,285
and their shareholders make
a ton of money off of war.
1146
00:48:13,287 --> 00:48:14,654
Boeing makes a ton of money.
1147
00:48:14,656 --> 00:48:16,756
Its contractors
make a ton of money.
1148
00:48:16,758 --> 00:48:18,256
The lobbyists make
a ton of money.
1149
00:48:18,258 --> 00:48:20,425
Because now you have
contracts to dole out.
1150
00:48:20,427 --> 00:48:21,827
Nobody talks about this though.
1151
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:23,328
How does the media
make its money?
1152
00:48:23,330 --> 00:48:26,331
War is never
coming from itself.
1153
00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:29,936
There is always people
behind it to push for war,
1154
00:48:29,938 --> 00:48:32,337
and this is not
only politicians,
1155
00:48:32,339 --> 00:48:33,940
this is journalists too.
1156
00:48:33,942 --> 00:48:36,174
'Cause you know there's
a lot of job at stake,
1157
00:48:36,176 --> 00:48:38,945
certainly if a lot of
these defense contractors
1158
00:48:38,947 --> 00:48:41,013
stop selling war planes,
1159
00:48:41,015 --> 00:48:42,614
other sophisticated equipment,
1160
00:48:42,616 --> 00:48:45,283
there's gonna be a
significant loss of jobs.
1161
00:48:45,285 --> 00:48:46,318
So what they're doing
1162
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,920
is completely dishonest.
1163
00:48:56,463 --> 00:48:58,296
This is beyond hoax.
1164
00:48:58,298 --> 00:49:00,632
This is a giant organized fraud.
1165
00:49:00,634 --> 00:49:01,968
The news is not the news.
1166
00:49:01,970 --> 00:49:03,203
The news is propaganda.
1167
00:49:09,309 --> 00:49:11,443
Nothing
has captured this crisis
1168
00:49:11,445 --> 00:49:14,379
like the picture that we
began with last night.
1169
00:49:14,381 --> 00:49:16,381
His family
says his name was Islan,
1170
00:49:16,383 --> 00:49:18,450
and that he and his
brother and his mother
1171
00:49:18,452 --> 00:49:20,385
drowned trying to
reach Greece by boat.
1172
00:49:21,488 --> 00:49:26,493
All photographs are rhetoric.
1173
00:49:27,996 --> 00:49:29,628
All photographs are accurate.
1174
00:49:29,630 --> 00:49:31,465
None of them are the truth.
1175
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,801
Let's face it, we don't see
the world in a still frame.
1176
00:49:35,803 --> 00:49:37,469
We don't see the world
in black and white.
1177
00:49:37,471 --> 00:49:39,805
We don't see the world frozen.
1178
00:49:39,807 --> 00:49:41,874
All photographs are
kind of self portraits.
1179
00:49:41,876 --> 00:49:44,877
They're really a reflection
of the photographer
1180
00:49:44,879 --> 00:49:46,879
and the editor.
1181
00:49:46,881 --> 00:49:50,716
There's a lot of journalists
who get angry when I say that.
1182
00:49:50,718 --> 00:49:52,350
And tonight, we're
gonna spend the program
1183
00:49:52,352 --> 00:49:54,552
looking at the
power of that image,
1184
00:49:54,554 --> 00:49:57,355
which has shocked the
world, shaken politicians,
1185
00:49:57,357 --> 00:49:59,391
and transformed the
debate about refugees
1186
00:49:59,393 --> 00:50:00,425
fleeing from war.
1187
00:50:00,427 --> 00:50:02,762
If you're listening to a song,
1188
00:50:02,764 --> 00:50:04,030
you have to listen to the song.
1189
00:50:04,032 --> 00:50:05,397
You have to at least
get to the hook
1190
00:50:05,399 --> 00:50:07,599
before you decide that you
think it's a good song.
1191
00:50:07,601 --> 00:50:09,434
Still images don't
work that way.
1192
00:50:09,436 --> 00:50:11,904
Still images happen immediately.
1193
00:50:11,906 --> 00:50:13,538
I just can't look at that
without being so upset.
1194
00:50:13,540 --> 00:50:16,108
Like, it just makes
me think how lucky,
1195
00:50:16,110 --> 00:50:17,743
lucky I am that I
live in Australia,
1196
00:50:17,745 --> 00:50:19,244
that my children
live in Australia.
1197
00:50:19,246 --> 00:50:20,512
That's what it means.
1198
00:50:20,514 --> 00:50:21,446
Yeah.
1199
00:50:21,448 --> 00:50:23,181
The most persuasive
thing is visual,
1200
00:50:23,183 --> 00:50:25,918
our visual sense
overpowers everything else.
1201
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,287
So what they choose
to show as an image
1202
00:50:29,289 --> 00:50:33,291
is the message no matter what
the words on the screen say.
1203
00:50:33,293 --> 00:50:34,559
What you remember
is what you saw.
1204
00:50:34,561 --> 00:50:39,031
The salacious or the
shock value of images
1205
00:50:39,033 --> 00:50:41,633
can be used in order
to kind of manipulate
1206
00:50:41,635 --> 00:50:44,870
peoples behavior.
1207
00:50:44,872 --> 00:50:46,739
Dead children
are normally taboo,
1208
00:50:46,741 --> 00:50:48,640
especially on the front page.
1209
00:50:48,642 --> 00:50:51,443
But next morning, almost
every UK newspaper
1210
00:50:51,445 --> 00:50:54,479
broke the rule and ran an
image on the front cover.
1211
00:50:54,481 --> 00:50:55,917
And if you compare that
1212
00:50:57,284 --> 00:51:02,154
to the bodies in Europe
from terrorist attacks,
1213
00:51:02,156 --> 00:51:03,923
some of which committed by
1214
00:51:03,925 --> 00:51:05,660
these migrants or
their descendants.
1215
00:51:06,894 --> 00:51:09,095
Those bodies you can't see.
1216
00:51:09,097 --> 00:51:11,463
Showing those bodies
can get you censored
1217
00:51:11,465 --> 00:51:12,497
on social media.
1218
00:51:12,499 --> 00:51:14,265
People still have fears.
1219
00:51:14,267 --> 00:51:15,633
Fears that migrants might have
1220
00:51:15,635 --> 00:51:17,469
an ISIS member
lurking among them,
1221
00:51:17,471 --> 00:51:20,139
which there has been
no credible example of.
1222
00:51:22,677 --> 00:51:25,243
News broke that one of the
attackers may have posed
1223
00:51:25,245 --> 00:51:26,812
as a refugee and entered Europe
1224
00:51:26,814 --> 00:51:29,181
through Greece with a
fake Syrian passport.
1225
00:51:29,183 --> 00:51:31,650
Knowing that you're not
seeing those photographs
1226
00:51:31,652 --> 00:51:33,152
should be a tip, right?
1227
00:51:33,154 --> 00:51:37,589
It should be a clue.
1228
00:51:39,526 --> 00:51:42,360
So I had always
sensed that the news,
1229
00:51:42,362 --> 00:51:43,495
there was a lot of fake news.
1230
00:51:43,497 --> 00:51:44,864
I'd always sensed it,
1231
00:51:44,866 --> 00:51:47,967
but I lived it, and I was
completely behind the scenes.
1232
00:51:47,969 --> 00:51:50,604
What happened, what
brought me into journalism,
1233
00:51:51,505 --> 00:51:54,305
is there was a
big thing going on
1234
00:51:54,307 --> 00:51:57,442
in Budapest Hungary
with migrants.
1235
00:51:57,444 --> 00:51:59,812
The media was saying
the Hungarian people
1236
00:51:59,814 --> 00:52:01,646
are just beating
up these migrants,
1237
00:52:01,648 --> 00:52:03,048
and they're abusing them.
1238
00:52:03,050 --> 00:52:04,351
This is so terrible.
1239
00:52:05,552 --> 00:52:08,453
So I happened to be
over in Budapest.
1240
00:52:08,455 --> 00:52:11,123
So I just said I was going to
be in Hungary through my blog.
1241
00:52:11,125 --> 00:52:12,490
And I started getting
emails from people.
1242
00:52:12,492 --> 00:52:13,525
I see you're gonna
be in Hungary.
1243
00:52:13,527 --> 00:52:14,561
I actually live here.
1244
00:52:16,164 --> 00:52:17,696
And then I decided to have
a meet-up through my blog.
1245
00:52:17,698 --> 00:52:18,898
Because they said, oh yeah,
1246
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:20,565
the media's like totally
lying about this.
1247
00:52:20,567 --> 00:52:22,534
We'll show you what's
really going on.
1248
00:52:22,536 --> 00:52:25,405
And then I thought,
wait a minute.
1249
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:27,973
I don't have blog readers.
1250
00:52:27,975 --> 00:52:29,141
I don't have book readers.
1251
00:52:29,143 --> 00:52:31,309
I have a human
intelligence network.
1252
00:52:31,311 --> 00:52:33,511
And then I thought
about "Fight Club."
1253
00:52:33,513 --> 00:52:35,881
They said we're the
ones serving your food.
1254
00:52:35,883 --> 00:52:37,582
We're the ones
watching your car.
1255
00:52:37,584 --> 00:52:39,051
We're the parking
lot attendants.
1256
00:52:39,053 --> 00:52:40,886
We're the baristas.
1257
00:52:40,888 --> 00:52:43,856
And I kind of had that
moment where I go,
1258
00:52:43,858 --> 00:52:45,658
yeah I don't have readers.
1259
00:52:45,660 --> 00:52:47,327
I now have sources.
1260
00:52:48,495 --> 00:52:50,528
Do not fuck with us.
1261
00:52:52,432 --> 00:52:54,767
So I went to Hungary
and I reported on
1262
00:52:54,769 --> 00:52:58,204
the refugee hoax
that was going on.
1263
00:52:58,206 --> 00:53:00,272
They were actually being
very well taken care of.
1264
00:53:00,274 --> 00:53:02,041
There was charity
everywhere you looked.
1265
00:53:02,043 --> 00:53:03,943
Everybody there
is very well fed.
1266
00:53:03,945 --> 00:53:06,278
Multiple meals, cleaning areas,
1267
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,545
tent cities everywhere.
1268
00:53:07,547 --> 00:53:09,048
The men are playing soccer.
1269
00:53:09,050 --> 00:53:10,548
People are goofing off.
1270
00:53:10,550 --> 00:53:13,921
Completely different than
what was being reported.
1271
00:53:15,223 --> 00:53:17,289
There was one woman
in a wheelchair.
1272
00:53:17,291 --> 00:53:18,590
So you know what?
1273
00:53:18,592 --> 00:53:20,625
All the media people
lined up to talk
1274
00:53:20,627 --> 00:53:22,795
to the one woman
in the wheelchair.
1275
00:53:22,797 --> 00:53:25,563
No camera was on anything
else happening there.
1276
00:53:25,565 --> 00:53:26,866
So as I'm there witnessing it,
1277
00:53:26,868 --> 00:53:28,466
then I would read
the New York Times,
1278
00:53:28,468 --> 00:53:30,401
and you see an image of a child,
1279
00:53:30,403 --> 00:53:32,705
or a person in a
wheelchair or something.
1280
00:53:32,707 --> 00:53:34,707
No, there were like
10 or 15 kids there.
1281
00:53:34,709 --> 00:53:36,976
The rest of them were men
of prime fighting age.
1282
00:53:36,978 --> 00:53:38,376
What happened for me personally
1283
00:53:38,378 --> 00:53:39,644
at the Colletti Train Station
1284
00:53:39,646 --> 00:53:41,315
is I had never had
something go viral.
1285
00:53:42,283 --> 00:53:43,782
I uploaded pictures on Facebook,
1286
00:53:43,784 --> 00:53:46,819
and I got over a million
people reach on Facebook.
1287
00:53:46,821 --> 00:53:49,755
And I go, wow, okay,
I'm on to something.
1288
00:53:49,757 --> 00:53:50,990
And then I started to say,
1289
00:53:50,992 --> 00:53:52,557
well I'm gonna take
people behind the news.
1290
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,761
I'm gonna put the
camera on the media.
1291
00:53:55,763 --> 00:53:58,063
Could have undermined
the messaging so much
1292
00:53:58,065 --> 00:54:00,666
that he can actually control
1293
00:54:00,668 --> 00:54:02,500
exactly what people think.
1294
00:54:02,502 --> 00:54:05,804
And that it our job.
1295
00:54:05,806 --> 00:54:07,106
The old guard is gone.
1296
00:54:07,108 --> 00:54:08,274
The new guard is here.
1297
00:54:08,276 --> 00:54:09,641
Journalism on the web,
1298
00:54:09,643 --> 00:54:12,077
and created specifically
for the web,
1299
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,346
is disrupting traditional models
1300
00:54:14,348 --> 00:54:15,915
and creating new ones.
1301
00:54:15,917 --> 00:54:17,482
You're credited
with pretty much
1302
00:54:17,484 --> 00:54:20,185
digitally revolutionizing
this whole new media movement.
1303
00:54:20,187 --> 00:54:21,486
My name is Tim Pool.
1304
00:54:21,488 --> 00:54:23,155
I'm a journalist
and technologist.
1305
00:54:23,157 --> 00:54:26,591
I cover conflict and crisis
stories all over the world.
1306
00:54:26,593 --> 00:54:28,459
I was in Egypt during
the revolution.
1307
00:54:28,461 --> 00:54:30,428
I was in Ukraine at the
start of the civil war.
1308
00:54:30,430 --> 00:54:33,431
I was in the Venezuelan student
uprising a few years ago.
1309
00:54:33,433 --> 00:54:35,533
Among many other stories.
1310
00:54:35,535 --> 00:54:38,636
I think the new media
is finding faster,
1311
00:54:38,638 --> 00:54:40,673
better, and more efficient
ways to cover the story
1312
00:54:40,675 --> 00:54:42,274
than old media ever can.
1313
00:54:42,276 --> 00:54:44,276
When I go out on the
ground to report,
1314
00:54:44,278 --> 00:54:46,845
I have a GoPro that's about
this big, and my phone.
1315
00:54:46,847 --> 00:54:48,113
I can strap the
phone to my chest,
1316
00:54:48,115 --> 00:54:49,949
which does a high
definition live broadcast.
1317
00:54:49,951 --> 00:54:51,984
I can interact with my audience.
1318
00:54:51,986 --> 00:54:53,118
And then I look over to my side,
1319
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,386
and I see a big satellite truck
1320
00:54:54,388 --> 00:54:56,121
that costs 10 times,
100 times as much
1321
00:54:56,123 --> 00:54:57,723
as my cell phone plan.
1322
00:54:57,725 --> 00:55:00,458
TV-31 wants you to
meet our newest addition.
1323
00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:03,996
I'm filming two
things at once.
1324
00:55:03,998 --> 00:55:06,631
I'm reporting, I'm filming,
1325
00:55:06,633 --> 00:55:08,801
I'm interacting
with the audience.
1326
00:55:08,803 --> 00:55:10,402
I'm also filming a
separate segment.
1327
00:55:10,404 --> 00:55:12,705
The jobs of four
people in one person.
1328
00:55:12,707 --> 00:55:15,307
And they still
can't get the speed
1329
00:55:15,309 --> 00:55:16,742
and content that I can.
1330
00:55:16,744 --> 00:55:19,078
Yeah, I took that mindset of,
1331
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,014
going behind the
scenes to Trump events.
1332
00:55:29,323 --> 00:55:32,024
Not to rallies, which
I found quite boring.
1333
00:55:32,026 --> 00:55:34,259
But to what was
happening outside.
1334
00:55:34,261 --> 00:55:35,728
And it was carnage.
1335
00:55:38,766 --> 00:55:39,832
Fucking disgrace!
1336
00:55:39,834 --> 00:55:41,033
People were taking
over the streets,
1337
00:55:41,035 --> 00:55:42,368
were tearing down signs,
1338
00:55:42,370 --> 00:55:45,170
sucker punching people,
screaming at people.
1339
00:55:45,172 --> 00:55:47,272
It was pandemonium, and
I just live streamed.
1340
00:55:47,274 --> 00:55:48,539
I didn't know what was going on.
1341
00:55:48,541 --> 00:55:50,876
I just live streamed
the whole thing.
1342
00:55:50,878 --> 00:55:53,345
And my phone went dead.
1343
00:55:53,347 --> 00:55:54,346
'Cause at the
time, I didn't know
1344
00:55:54,348 --> 00:55:55,247
to have a battery pack.
1345
00:55:55,249 --> 00:55:56,782
You're like a rookie, right?
1346
00:55:56,784 --> 00:56:01,586
So I'm running to
charge my battery.
1347
00:56:01,588 --> 00:56:03,288
Get like three, four, 5%.
1348
00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:08,295
Sprint back, live streaming,
sprinting back, live streaming.
1349
00:56:08,796 --> 00:56:09,728
And it was fun.
1350
00:56:09,730 --> 00:56:11,196
It was a major adrenaline rush.
1351
00:56:11,198 --> 00:56:13,198
The biggest difference between
1352
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,935
independent journalist
and a mainstream reporter
1353
00:56:16,937 --> 00:56:18,737
first is the
entrepreneurial attitude.
1354
00:56:18,739 --> 00:56:20,806
It's a huge risk to
go off on your own.
1355
00:56:20,808 --> 00:56:22,908
And so immediately,
there's going to be
1356
00:56:22,910 --> 00:56:24,977
a different perspective
on the world.
1357
00:56:24,979 --> 00:56:27,046
A lot of the
traditional journalists,
1358
00:56:27,048 --> 00:56:29,782
they get out of school,
they look for a job.
1359
00:56:29,784 --> 00:56:31,417
A lot of independent journalists
1360
00:56:31,419 --> 00:56:32,617
know what they want to do,
1361
00:56:32,619 --> 00:56:34,720
and oftentimes
will fly themselves
1362
00:56:34,722 --> 00:56:36,655
to some dangerous
part of the world,
1363
00:56:36,657 --> 00:56:37,756
'cause they want the story.
1364
00:56:37,758 --> 00:56:39,258
Yeah, but we live
for this, you know?
1365
00:56:39,260 --> 00:56:40,893
We live to tell the truth.
1366
00:56:40,895 --> 00:56:43,328
Nobody else is gonna do
it, we have to do it.
1367
00:56:43,330 --> 00:56:46,799
So, here's another great
example of fake news.
1368
00:56:46,801 --> 00:56:49,134
If you watch the
news of the RNC,
1369
00:56:49,136 --> 00:56:54,075
you would be told
total chaos, division.
1370
00:56:54,909 --> 00:56:56,842
Oh there's protests everywhere.
1371
00:56:56,844 --> 00:56:58,512
Protests everywhere at the RNC.
1372
00:56:59,914 --> 00:57:01,747
You go to these
protests, it's 20 people.
1373
00:57:01,749 --> 00:57:02,817
I kid you not.
1374
00:57:03,784 --> 00:57:05,951
20 people.
1375
00:57:05,953 --> 00:57:08,619
And 100 media people,
taking pictures.
1376
00:57:08,621 --> 00:57:09,521
And they would stage 'em.
1377
00:57:09,523 --> 00:57:11,090
And they would crop the shot
1378
00:57:11,092 --> 00:57:13,826
so you couldn't really tell
how many people were there.
1379
00:57:13,828 --> 00:57:15,160
So disappointed
by these protests.
1380
00:57:15,162 --> 00:57:16,095
Yeah I know.
1381
00:57:16,097 --> 00:57:17,196
I'm gonna have to go to DNC.
1382
00:57:20,633 --> 00:57:21,834
So I go,
1383
00:57:21,836 --> 00:57:26,171
and I was in a
real protest march.
1384
00:57:30,878 --> 00:57:33,779
Burn that fucking white
capitalist shit the fuck down.
1385
00:57:33,781 --> 00:57:34,548
Oh shit, oh shit.
1386
00:57:35,615 --> 00:57:36,982
Someone got burned!
1387
00:57:36,984 --> 00:57:39,351
If you turn on the news,
you're not seeing this.
1388
00:57:39,353 --> 00:57:42,721
Day one of the DNC, I'm
out there, Periscope-ing,
1389
00:57:42,723 --> 00:57:44,223
live streaming videos.
1390
00:57:44,225 --> 00:57:46,692
There are 5,000 people at least
1391
00:57:46,694 --> 00:57:48,861
at FDR Park across from the DNC.
1392
00:57:48,863 --> 00:57:49,962
Alright, 360.
1393
00:57:53,234 --> 00:57:54,632
Right?
1394
00:57:54,634 --> 00:57:56,034
That's everywhere,
okay, everywhere.
1395
00:57:56,036 --> 00:57:59,037
You know how many mainstream
journalists I saw there?
1396
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:00,038
Zero.
1397
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,541
There's not even
one journalist here.
1398
00:58:02,543 --> 00:58:03,342
Except for me.
1399
00:58:03,344 --> 00:58:04,676
They're all on Twitter,
1400
00:58:04,678 --> 00:58:07,079
talking about the future
of the Democratic Party
1401
00:58:07,081 --> 00:58:08,680
and the future of the election.
1402
00:58:08,682 --> 00:58:11,183
They're unbelievably lazy.
1403
00:58:11,185 --> 00:58:13,852
You know, being a right
winger in New York City,
1404
00:58:13,854 --> 00:58:16,889
I'm drowned in the opposition,
1405
00:58:16,891 --> 00:58:18,590
and you learn to enjoy conflict.
1406
00:58:18,592 --> 00:58:19,925
You learn to enjoy arguing,
1407
00:58:19,927 --> 00:58:22,394
and I think it makes you
a more complete person.
1408
00:58:22,396 --> 00:58:24,096
And we wonder why the the media
1409
00:58:24,098 --> 00:58:25,499
has become mentally obese.
1410
00:58:28,869 --> 00:58:30,369
These people don't
leave their desks.
1411
00:58:30,371 --> 00:58:32,271
And this is true of
the right and the left.
1412
00:58:32,273 --> 00:58:33,572
They'll sit there
and they'll Google,
1413
00:58:33,574 --> 00:58:35,174
and they'll talk
about a backlash,
1414
00:58:35,176 --> 00:58:36,909
and you'll go check the
evidence of this backlash
1415
00:58:36,911 --> 00:58:38,944
and you realize
it's just tweets.
1416
00:58:38,946 --> 00:58:41,180
There's no more Watergate
from the beat reporter,
1417
00:58:41,182 --> 00:58:42,381
talking to people on the street,
1418
00:58:42,383 --> 00:58:44,016
'cause he just uses Google.
1419
00:58:44,018 --> 00:58:47,786
These kids now are turning to
themselves for information.
1420
00:58:47,788 --> 00:58:49,388
They're their own journalists.
1421
00:58:49,390 --> 00:58:51,089
And that's what's so
exciting about this time,
1422
00:58:51,091 --> 00:58:53,892
is someone like James
O'Keefe can come along
1423
00:58:53,894 --> 00:58:57,095
with an undercover camera
and totally blow up
1424
00:58:57,097 --> 00:58:59,398
the New York Times, fake voting,
1425
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,933
all of this stuff
by going out there
1426
00:59:00,935 --> 00:59:03,302
and just doing it themselves.
1427
00:59:03,304 --> 00:59:04,970
So the biggest rub on me
1428
00:59:04,972 --> 00:59:06,138
is that I'm not a journalist.
1429
00:59:06,140 --> 00:59:07,439
That's what they will say.
1430
00:59:07,441 --> 00:59:09,041
James O'Keefe is
not a journalist.
1431
00:59:09,043 --> 00:59:12,044
Whatever they want to call
us, it doesn't matter.
1432
00:59:12,046 --> 00:59:14,446
What matters is the thing
that you are producing.
1433
00:59:14,448 --> 00:59:17,382
I'd like to get comments
as soon as possible.
1434
00:59:17,384 --> 00:59:18,483
Oh okay.
1435
00:59:18,485 --> 00:59:19,284
From name?
1436
00:59:19,286 --> 00:59:20,421
James O'Keefe.
1437
00:59:22,423 --> 00:59:23,922
Can I put you
on hold really quick?
1438
00:59:23,924 --> 00:59:25,090
Yeah thanks.
1439
00:59:25,092 --> 00:59:27,159
This is the oh shit moment.
1440
00:59:27,161 --> 00:59:29,928
Journalism is not just an
identity, it's an activity.
1441
00:59:29,930 --> 00:59:32,231
It is what you do.
1442
00:59:32,233 --> 00:59:35,067
And you judge people based
on what they produce.
1443
00:59:35,069 --> 00:59:37,002
Basically, everyone
is a journalist.
1444
00:59:37,004 --> 00:59:40,105
But here you have actual
grassroots activism,
1445
00:59:40,107 --> 00:59:41,740
and there's no media.
1446
00:59:41,742 --> 00:59:43,275
So you go to the DNC,
1447
00:59:43,277 --> 00:59:45,944
you see this massive
protest, real protest.
1448
00:59:45,946 --> 00:59:47,980
Not like this
bullshit at the RNC.
1449
00:59:47,982 --> 00:59:49,948
Which the media hyped up.
1450
00:59:49,950 --> 00:59:52,517
Real protestors, and
they're democrats,
1451
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:55,187
and they're being kept
out by this big cage.
1452
00:59:55,189 --> 00:59:56,955
It's like we're the
criminals, but not her.
1453
00:59:56,957 --> 00:59:58,323
Let us go!
1454
00:59:58,325 --> 00:59:59,659
And they're all talking
about how they hate Hillary.
1455
00:59:59,661 --> 01:00:01,126
They're not gonna vote for her.
1456
01:00:01,128 --> 01:00:02,695
They're not gonna do
anything for Hillary Clinton,
1457
01:00:02,697 --> 01:00:04,796
'cause they thought
the primary was rigged.
1458
01:00:04,798 --> 01:00:07,499
And there's no mainstream
coverage of this at all.
1459
01:00:07,501 --> 01:00:08,800
They're chanting Wikileaks.
1460
01:00:08,802 --> 01:00:10,102
What do you think
about the Wikileaks?
1461
01:00:10,104 --> 01:00:12,304
Yeah, that's the last straw.
1462
01:00:12,306 --> 01:00:14,339
That is the proof of
what we've all expected
1463
01:00:14,341 --> 01:00:15,874
that they've been doing.
1464
01:00:15,876 --> 01:00:18,377
Wikileaks released thousands
of emails from the DNC,
1465
01:00:18,379 --> 01:00:21,346
appearing to show favoritism
towards Hillary Clinton.
1466
01:00:21,348 --> 01:00:23,982
CNN can't verify the
authenticity of those emails,
1467
01:00:23,984 --> 01:00:25,217
but they suggest that...
1468
01:00:25,219 --> 01:00:27,219
Bernie Sanders
may have been right.
1469
01:00:27,221 --> 01:00:30,055
The primary system was
rigged against him.
1470
01:00:30,057 --> 01:00:32,190
Wikileaks offered a
window into the world
1471
01:00:32,192 --> 01:00:34,661
that most people
would have never had,
1472
01:00:34,663 --> 01:00:37,562
and that's the real reason the
media lied about Wikileaks.
1473
01:00:37,564 --> 01:00:39,699
When Chris Cuomo said on CNN...
1474
01:00:39,701 --> 01:00:43,502
It's illegal to possess
these stolen documents.
1475
01:00:43,504 --> 01:00:44,870
It's different for the media.
1476
01:00:44,872 --> 01:00:45,804
So everything you
learn about this,
1477
01:00:45,806 --> 01:00:47,472
you're learning from us.
1478
01:00:47,474 --> 01:00:48,473
It's different for the media.
1479
01:00:48,475 --> 01:00:49,676
It's different for the media.
1480
01:00:49,678 --> 01:00:50,642
Wikileaks showed, though,
1481
01:00:50,644 --> 01:00:51,910
the extent of the collusion.
1482
01:00:51,912 --> 01:00:55,147
There were, I believe,
52 reporters who
1483
01:00:55,149 --> 01:00:56,982
had had various off the record,
1484
01:00:56,984 --> 01:00:58,850
very homey dinners
with John Podesta.
1485
01:00:58,852 --> 01:01:00,385
So they're all great friends.
1486
01:01:00,387 --> 01:01:02,689
Glenn Throsh, who
was then at Politico
1487
01:01:02,691 --> 01:01:04,056
and now at the New York Times,
1488
01:01:04,058 --> 01:01:06,058
emails John Podesta and said,
1489
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:08,160
"I'm such a hack that
I'm gonna send you
1490
01:01:08,162 --> 01:01:10,095
"the part of the article
that pertains to you
1491
01:01:10,097 --> 01:01:12,097
"before it's released."
1492
01:01:12,099 --> 01:01:14,199
What they were doing
is they're giving
1493
01:01:14,201 --> 01:01:16,101
the other side a head start.
1494
01:01:16,103 --> 01:01:19,037
Hey, we're about to drop this
hit piece on you tomorrow.
1495
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:20,839
Get your talking points
locked and loaded tonight.
1496
01:01:20,841 --> 01:01:22,274
It's amazingly valuable.
1497
01:01:22,276 --> 01:01:24,076
Not only did he
not get punished,
1498
01:01:24,078 --> 01:01:26,178
he is now the White
House correspondent
1499
01:01:26,180 --> 01:01:27,047
at the New York Times.
1500
01:01:31,251 --> 01:01:35,387
Maggie Haberman, who I also
believe is at Politico,
1501
01:01:35,389 --> 01:01:37,422
was referred to as
a friendly reporter
1502
01:01:37,424 --> 01:01:40,258
that the Clinton campaign
would use to tee up stories.
1503
01:01:40,260 --> 01:01:44,029
Maggie Haberman now works
at the New York Times.
1504
01:01:44,031 --> 01:01:45,564
I have an uphill climb,
1505
01:01:45,566 --> 01:01:48,266
and I'm gonna climb as
high and hard as I can.
1506
01:01:48,268 --> 01:01:51,103
Donna Brazile was
a CNN contributor,
1507
01:01:51,105 --> 01:01:53,905
and she obtained some
questions from the town hall
1508
01:01:53,907 --> 01:01:55,907
which was competitive between
1509
01:01:55,909 --> 01:01:57,810
Hillary Clinton
and Bernie Sanders,
1510
01:01:57,812 --> 01:01:59,746
and she gave the questions
to Hillary Clinton.
1511
01:01:59,748 --> 01:02:04,149
She confirmed that the primary
was rigged against Bernie,
1512
01:02:04,151 --> 01:02:06,251
and it was rigged for Hillary.
1513
01:02:06,253 --> 01:02:08,153
She revealed that based on
the fundraising agreement
1514
01:02:08,155 --> 01:02:10,322
between Hillary
Clinton's campaign
1515
01:02:10,324 --> 01:02:13,291
and between the DNC that all
the messaging from the DNC
1516
01:02:13,293 --> 01:02:15,293
had to be cleared by
what she called Brooklyn.
1517
01:02:15,295 --> 01:02:17,929
That was the Hillary
Clinton office.
1518
01:02:17,931 --> 01:02:19,799
Every press release
had to be pre-approved.
1519
01:02:19,801 --> 01:02:21,734
Well that's a nice advantage.
1520
01:02:21,736 --> 01:02:23,770
I would like every
article about me
1521
01:02:23,772 --> 01:02:25,003
to have to be
pre-approved by me.
1522
01:02:25,005 --> 01:02:26,438
That would be amazing.
1523
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,307
Wikileaks confirmed what
people already knew,
1524
01:02:29,309 --> 01:02:31,811
but couldn't prove,
which is that the media
1525
01:02:31,813 --> 01:02:33,478
and the democrats
are one in the same.
1526
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,279
There is no difference.
1527
01:02:34,281 --> 01:02:35,914
They're all buddy buddy.
1528
01:02:35,916 --> 01:02:37,249
And whatever you read
in the mainstream news
1529
01:02:37,251 --> 01:02:39,484
is gonna be the
democrat talking points.
1530
01:02:39,486 --> 01:02:40,753
One of the things
I don't think
1531
01:02:40,755 --> 01:02:43,321
you need to convince
anybody anymore
1532
01:02:43,323 --> 01:02:46,091
is that the media is biased.
1533
01:02:46,093 --> 01:02:47,794
I think there used to
be a day, you know,
1534
01:02:47,796 --> 01:02:49,695
maybe when I was a
kid when people said,
1535
01:02:49,697 --> 01:02:53,866
well, the news is at least
trying not to be biased.
1536
01:02:53,868 --> 01:02:55,169
They're at least trying.
1537
01:02:56,170 --> 01:02:58,336
But now nobody believes that.
1538
01:02:58,338 --> 01:03:03,008
What they do believe, which
is weirder and maybe worse,
1539
01:03:03,010 --> 01:03:05,780
is that they believe that
only the other side is biased.
1540
01:03:07,014 --> 01:03:09,948
And that's a tough one to crack.
1541
01:03:09,950 --> 01:03:11,483
You know, a lot of
people will look at me
1542
01:03:11,485 --> 01:03:13,653
and they'll say, "Lauren,
you've obviously got a bias."
1543
01:03:13,655 --> 01:03:15,320
Yeah, everyone has a bias.
1544
01:03:15,322 --> 01:03:16,321
I'm just honest about it.
1545
01:03:16,323 --> 01:03:17,556
I will tell you, yeah,
1546
01:03:17,558 --> 01:03:19,291
I'm coming from a right
wing point of view.
1547
01:03:19,293 --> 01:03:22,662
That's why my feelings
inside, I am right wing.
1548
01:03:22,664 --> 01:03:24,329
So I'm gonna
explain that to you,
1549
01:03:24,331 --> 01:03:27,165
and tell you to go look and
read other journalism as well.
1550
01:03:27,167 --> 01:03:29,367
It doesn't matter if you are
1551
01:03:29,369 --> 01:03:30,670
one political side or the other.
1552
01:03:30,672 --> 01:03:32,037
It matters are you
gonna tell the truth
1553
01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:33,305
about what happened.
1554
01:03:33,307 --> 01:03:35,875
And so, with a lot
of these journalists,
1555
01:03:35,877 --> 01:03:39,311
they're more
interested in winning.
1556
01:03:39,313 --> 01:03:41,480
They're more interested
in the political agenda.
1557
01:03:41,482 --> 01:03:43,916
They're more interested in
fitting in than being honest.
1558
01:03:43,918 --> 01:03:45,852
If I was the CEO of the
New York Times, I would say,
1559
01:03:45,854 --> 01:03:47,653
I would bring all my
reporters in the room and say,
1560
01:03:47,655 --> 01:03:49,154
"Here's the deal.
1561
01:03:49,156 --> 01:03:51,423
"If you have an opinion,
1562
01:03:51,425 --> 01:03:53,558
"and it gets injected
into your article,
1563
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,161
"then state that to the public."
1564
01:03:56,163 --> 01:03:57,429
The issue with
the mainstream media
1565
01:03:57,431 --> 01:03:59,197
is they tell you I'm neutral,
1566
01:03:59,199 --> 01:04:01,701
I'm coming from a position
that's totally impartial.
1567
01:04:03,337 --> 01:04:07,005
President Obama is the most
noble man who has ever lived
1568
01:04:07,007 --> 01:04:08,273
in the White House.
1569
01:04:08,275 --> 01:04:10,943
The Manchurian candidate
couldn't destroy us
1570
01:04:10,945 --> 01:04:12,745
faster than Barack Obama.
1571
01:04:12,747 --> 01:04:16,581
It's illegal to possess
these stolen documents.
1572
01:04:16,583 --> 01:04:19,584
The
most trusted name in news.
1573
01:04:19,586 --> 01:04:20,887
It's ridiculous.
1574
01:04:20,889 --> 01:04:22,587
You have media that's
literally colluding,
1575
01:04:22,589 --> 01:04:25,190
and during the debates,
they're leaking questions.
1576
01:04:25,192 --> 01:04:27,793
And still pretending
to be impartial media.
1577
01:04:27,795 --> 01:04:29,561
Everyone has a bias.
1578
01:04:29,563 --> 01:04:31,263
It's just some people are
gonna be honest about it,
1579
01:04:31,265 --> 01:04:32,899
and some people aren't.
1580
01:04:32,901 --> 01:04:36,969
And new media, independent
media, are honest about it.
1581
01:04:36,971 --> 01:04:38,370
What I learned at the DNC,
1582
01:04:38,372 --> 01:04:40,238
not only about the
media being fake
1583
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,708
and how they would construct
a fake narrative in real time,
1584
01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:46,077
but I did see how the
democrats and the media
1585
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,380
were covering up the whole
Bernie Sanders thing.
1586
01:04:48,382 --> 01:04:50,282
And I said, but there's
no way in the world
1587
01:04:50,284 --> 01:04:51,316
Hillary Clinton is going to win.
1588
01:04:51,318 --> 01:04:54,219
So people of course
call me all year.
1589
01:04:54,221 --> 01:04:55,788
You're an idiot, you're
a conspiracy theorist,
1590
01:04:55,790 --> 01:04:57,455
you don't know anything.
1591
01:04:57,457 --> 01:04:58,390
You're not an expert, blah.
1592
01:04:58,392 --> 01:04:59,759
And I was like, well,
1593
01:04:59,761 --> 01:05:01,894
that's because you're
watching the news.
1594
01:05:08,068 --> 01:05:09,467
Could he actually win?
1595
01:05:09,469 --> 01:05:11,136
No freaking way!
1596
01:05:12,139 --> 01:05:13,806
And which republican candidate
1597
01:05:13,808 --> 01:05:16,842
has the best chance of
winning the general election?
1598
01:05:16,844 --> 01:05:20,111
Of the declared ones,
right now, Donald Trump.
1599
01:05:22,449 --> 01:05:25,183
We have Hillary as about
75 or an 80% favorite.
1600
01:05:25,185 --> 01:05:26,318
We have a different
person to forecast.
1601
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,988
89% for Hillary Clinton.
1602
01:05:28,990 --> 01:05:31,323
Hillary Clinton has a
100% chance of winning.
1603
01:05:31,325 --> 01:05:32,959
The Presidential race is over.
1604
01:05:32,961 --> 01:05:34,694
The state of the race
at the presidential level
1605
01:05:34,696 --> 01:05:36,328
is virtually over.
1606
01:05:36,330 --> 01:05:39,364
Oklahoma, Tennessee,
Mississippi, South Carolina.
1607
01:05:39,366 --> 01:05:41,834
Pretty dramatic
change in the forecast.
1608
01:05:41,836 --> 01:05:45,004
They were in a weird,
weird situation right now.
1609
01:05:45,006 --> 01:05:47,372
And CNN projects
Donald Trump will carry
1610
01:05:47,374 --> 01:05:48,473
the state of Florida.
1611
01:05:48,475 --> 01:05:49,709
Ohio will
go to Donald Trump.
1612
01:05:49,711 --> 01:05:51,209
Donald Trump has won
1613
01:05:51,211 --> 01:05:52,510
the state of Pennsylvania.
1614
01:05:52,512 --> 01:05:54,346
That is the race.
1615
01:05:54,348 --> 01:05:56,682
Donald Trump
wins the presidency.
1616
01:05:56,684 --> 01:05:58,383
America is crying tonight.
1617
01:05:58,385 --> 01:06:00,452
Everybody is crying.
1618
01:06:00,454 --> 01:06:02,454
How do we explain
how this is possible.
1619
01:06:02,456 --> 01:06:04,023
How did this happen?
1620
01:06:04,025 --> 01:06:05,825
I think election day
questions have been raised
1621
01:06:05,827 --> 01:06:07,626
about the role that
false news stories
1622
01:06:07,628 --> 01:06:09,962
distributed online played
in the final result.
1623
01:06:09,964 --> 01:06:11,363
There's been a lot
of talk lately about...
1624
01:06:11,365 --> 01:06:12,464
- Fake news.
- Fake news.
1625
01:06:12,466 --> 01:06:13,666
Fake news.
1626
01:06:13,668 --> 01:06:15,333
Hoax sites and
hyper-partisan blogs.
1627
01:06:15,335 --> 01:06:16,468
That
are spread further
1628
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:17,903
on social media platforms.
1629
01:06:17,905 --> 01:06:19,471
As long as it's
on social media,
1630
01:06:19,473 --> 01:06:20,706
people start believing it.
1631
01:06:20,708 --> 01:06:22,474
Real world
political implications.
1632
01:06:22,476 --> 01:06:23,876
Real world consequences.
1633
01:06:23,878 --> 01:06:25,510
A threat to democracy.
1634
01:06:25,512 --> 01:06:28,213
Journalists are over-playing
the fake news stories
1635
01:06:28,215 --> 01:06:30,550
to demonize people
you don't agree with.
1636
01:06:33,755 --> 01:06:35,253
In this last election,
1637
01:06:35,255 --> 01:06:38,156
the nation was
assaulted by imposters
1638
01:06:38,158 --> 01:06:40,525
masquerading as reporters.
1639
01:06:40,527 --> 01:06:43,361
Michael Cernovich, a
southern California lawyer,
1640
01:06:43,363 --> 01:06:46,264
has become a magnet for readers,
1641
01:06:46,266 --> 01:06:50,836
with a taste for stories
with no basis in fact.
1642
01:06:50,838 --> 01:06:54,707
Yeah, 60 Minutes wanted
to do an interview with me
1643
01:06:54,709 --> 01:06:57,542
because they were doing a
big segment on fake news.
1644
01:06:57,544 --> 01:07:00,614
And they wanted to make
me out to be fake news.
1645
01:07:01,783 --> 01:07:03,849
It was a complete
setup, God bless 'em.
1646
01:07:03,851 --> 01:07:06,786
Cernovich's website
is just one of hundreds
1647
01:07:06,788 --> 01:07:10,522
publishing nonsense on
the right and on the left.
1648
01:07:10,524 --> 01:07:13,358
So intelligent
people who are familiar
1649
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,461
with my body of work
understand what I do
1650
01:07:16,463 --> 01:07:18,563
and why I do it,
and it's very meta.
1651
01:07:18,565 --> 01:07:21,133
The first thing that
Machiavelli would tell
1652
01:07:21,135 --> 01:07:24,402
a prince to do would
be to write a book,
1653
01:07:24,404 --> 01:07:25,738
denouncing the prince.
1654
01:07:25,740 --> 01:07:27,073
And so I think it's
interesting, you know,
1655
01:07:27,075 --> 01:07:30,275
to have someone like
Mike doing a documentary
1656
01:07:30,277 --> 01:07:33,478
about fake news, because
it's owning a term
1657
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,949
that has been directed at
him and people like him.
1658
01:07:36,951 --> 01:07:40,452
These news stories are fakes.
1659
01:07:40,454 --> 01:07:41,386
They're definitely not fake.
1660
01:07:41,388 --> 01:07:42,220
They're lies.
1661
01:07:42,222 --> 01:07:43,488
Not lie at all.
1662
01:07:43,490 --> 01:07:45,623
One of the reasons
that someone like Mike
1663
01:07:45,625 --> 01:07:48,426
I think aggravates
journalists so much
1664
01:07:48,428 --> 01:07:53,600
is that he's sort of
like a carnival mirror.
1665
01:07:54,568 --> 01:07:56,969
Hillary Clinton
has Parkinson's
1666
01:07:56,971 --> 01:07:59,270
Disease, physician confirms.
1667
01:07:59,272 --> 01:08:00,740
You don't think
that's misleading?
1668
01:08:00,742 --> 01:08:02,007
No.
1669
01:08:02,009 --> 01:08:05,010
He's projecting back
at them what they do
1670
01:08:05,012 --> 01:08:08,114
in almost all their,
but to an absurd
1671
01:08:08,116 --> 01:08:10,482
and almost offensive lever.
1672
01:08:10,484 --> 01:08:11,650
Hillary is a zombie.
1673
01:08:11,652 --> 01:08:12,584
What do you guys think?
1674
01:08:12,586 --> 01:08:13,919
You want to do a hashtag?
1675
01:08:13,921 --> 01:08:15,520
What do you think
of zombie Hillary?
1676
01:08:15,522 --> 01:08:18,691
So what I am doing is am
being a fun house mirror,
1677
01:08:18,693 --> 01:08:21,160
where you think that
we're the monsters,
1678
01:08:21,162 --> 01:08:24,262
but really all we're doing
is changing the wording
1679
01:08:24,264 --> 01:08:25,597
on things that you
would actually say.
1680
01:08:25,599 --> 01:08:27,599
Hillary, all I know
is that she is sick.
1681
01:08:27,601 --> 01:08:29,434
This is a very sick man.
1682
01:08:29,436 --> 01:08:31,036
He is truly very sick.
1683
01:08:31,038 --> 01:08:34,173
This is why we need
Hillary's medical records.
1684
01:08:34,175 --> 01:08:36,341
How recently has
he had a colonoscopy,
1685
01:08:36,343 --> 01:08:37,676
or other cancer tests?
1686
01:08:37,678 --> 01:08:39,544
John McCain's health
was a big issue.
1687
01:08:39,546 --> 01:08:42,313
The media was all covering
it, is John McCain healthy.
1688
01:08:42,315 --> 01:08:44,616
Everybody's been talking
about Donald Trump's health.
1689
01:08:44,618 --> 01:08:46,317
Is this president
of sound mind?
1690
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:47,653
Whether it's a
personality disorder,
1691
01:08:47,655 --> 01:08:48,654
or borderline personality.
1692
01:08:48,656 --> 01:08:50,790
He's not in
control of himself.
1693
01:08:50,792 --> 01:08:52,490
Some people said he had
mental health problems.
1694
01:08:52,492 --> 01:08:55,326
The New Republic said
Donald Trump had syphilis.
1695
01:08:55,328 --> 01:08:57,395
"The Dangerous Case
of Donald Trump."
1696
01:08:57,397 --> 01:08:59,999
27 psychiatrists and
mental health experts
1697
01:09:00,001 --> 01:09:01,233
assess a president.
1698
01:09:01,235 --> 01:09:03,334
So if you're a bunch
of psychologists,
1699
01:09:03,336 --> 01:09:04,636
and you want to write a book
1700
01:09:04,638 --> 01:09:05,971
about a patient
you've never seen,
1701
01:09:05,973 --> 01:09:07,973
the media will cover it and
you'll be a best seller.
1702
01:09:07,975 --> 01:09:10,475
The book includes
and validates
1703
01:09:10,477 --> 01:09:12,912
some of the general
news media's speculation
1704
01:09:12,914 --> 01:09:15,214
about Donald Trump's
mental capacity.
1705
01:09:15,216 --> 01:09:16,514
With Hillary's health,
1706
01:09:16,516 --> 01:09:17,883
I had a doctor who
had never seen her,
1707
01:09:17,885 --> 01:09:18,984
and they remind me of that.
1708
01:09:18,986 --> 01:09:20,252
Well he never treated her.
1709
01:09:20,254 --> 01:09:21,586
That story was sourced
1710
01:09:21,588 --> 01:09:24,690
to an anesthesiologist
who never met Clinton.
1711
01:09:24,692 --> 01:09:26,659
What is your take
of all the doctors
1712
01:09:26,661 --> 01:09:28,160
and clinicians all
across the country
1713
01:09:28,162 --> 01:09:29,929
who have said that
in this president,
1714
01:09:29,931 --> 01:09:32,530
they see symptoms of
this, that, and the other?
1715
01:09:32,532 --> 01:09:35,433
The duty to warn of ways
1716
01:09:35,435 --> 01:09:38,737
that the consideration
that would normally apply,
1717
01:09:38,739 --> 01:09:40,840
which is I'm not gonna
offer a public diagnosis
1718
01:09:40,842 --> 01:09:42,507
of a person I have not met.
1719
01:09:42,509 --> 01:09:43,742
But when it's a democrat,
1720
01:09:43,744 --> 01:09:45,610
there's now a new higher
evidentiary standard
1721
01:09:45,612 --> 01:09:49,547
and we can't just talk about
speculation and gossip.
1722
01:09:49,549 --> 01:09:50,950
The conspiracy du jour,
1723
01:09:50,952 --> 01:09:54,220
Hillary Clinton is harboring
a secret medical condition.
1724
01:09:54,222 --> 01:09:55,688
The President of
the United States
1725
01:09:55,690 --> 01:09:59,191
genuinely appears to be
losing his grip on reality.
1726
01:09:59,193 --> 01:10:00,860
And that would be
the fun house aspect.
1727
01:10:00,862 --> 01:10:02,761
It's get real.
1728
01:10:02,763 --> 01:10:04,129
They did it to McCain.
1729
01:10:04,131 --> 01:10:05,130
They did it to Trump.
1730
01:10:05,132 --> 01:10:06,397
We did it to Hillary.
1731
01:10:06,399 --> 01:10:08,033
They're just gonna
have to get over that.
1732
01:10:08,035 --> 01:10:09,634
It's the exact same playbook
1733
01:10:09,636 --> 01:10:11,103
that these other
journalists are doing,
1734
01:10:11,105 --> 01:10:16,108
and I think that sort of
mimicry is very upsetting.
1735
01:10:16,110 --> 01:10:19,444
Which ties into the Scott
Adams theory on two movies.
1736
01:10:19,446 --> 01:10:21,313
If you're Scott Peli,
1737
01:10:21,315 --> 01:10:22,882
you're watching a movie where
1738
01:10:22,884 --> 01:10:25,284
anybody who claims that
Hillary Clinton had Parkinson's
1739
01:10:25,286 --> 01:10:27,753
is a complete and total
conspiracy theorist.
1740
01:10:27,755 --> 01:10:30,057
If you're anybody
else in America,
1741
01:10:31,325 --> 01:10:32,758
you're watching the
movie where you see
1742
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,460
a very sick person
having coughing fits,
1743
01:10:35,462 --> 01:10:37,096
having so called allergies,
1744
01:10:37,098 --> 01:10:38,396
falling down multiple times,
1745
01:10:38,398 --> 01:10:40,632
and then having a
major seizure on 9-11.
1746
01:10:40,634 --> 01:10:42,101
And you're thinking,
1747
01:10:42,103 --> 01:10:44,737
they're calling Cernovich out
for the Hillary's heath thing?
1748
01:10:44,739 --> 01:10:46,672
She had a seizure and froze up
1749
01:10:46,674 --> 01:10:48,608
walking into her motorcade.
1750
01:10:50,644 --> 01:10:52,510
Well, she had
pneumonia, I mean...
1751
01:10:52,512 --> 01:10:53,312
How do you know?
1752
01:10:53,314 --> 01:10:54,512
Who told you that?
1753
01:10:54,514 --> 01:10:55,814
Well the campaign
told us that.
1754
01:10:55,816 --> 01:10:57,182
Why would you
trust a campaign?
1755
01:10:57,184 --> 01:10:58,483
The point is...
1756
01:10:58,485 --> 01:10:59,752
The camera didn't show there,
1757
01:10:59,754 --> 01:11:01,419
but he actually
dropped his glasses.
1758
01:11:01,421 --> 01:11:03,756
He was so freaked out because
1759
01:11:03,758 --> 01:11:06,258
they're not used to
somebody coming after them.
1760
01:11:06,260 --> 01:11:09,161
The whole power dynamic
of I'm the media,
1761
01:11:09,163 --> 01:11:10,663
and I'm Scott Pely,
and I'm 60 Minutes,
1762
01:11:10,665 --> 01:11:12,197
and we're just gonna
interrogate you
1763
01:11:12,199 --> 01:11:13,832
and you're gonna give
us what you want.
1764
01:11:13,834 --> 01:11:15,167
That doesn't even enter my mind.
1765
01:11:15,169 --> 01:11:17,435
I'm thinking how
is this gonna look
1766
01:11:17,437 --> 01:11:19,504
when they edit that
clip, and make memes,
1767
01:11:19,506 --> 01:11:20,940
and make viral videos.
1768
01:11:20,942 --> 01:11:24,843
Disingenuous sort
of online posturing.
1769
01:11:24,845 --> 01:11:26,845
It might feel harmless,
1770
01:11:26,847 --> 01:11:28,681
and this might feel
no different than
1771
01:11:28,683 --> 01:11:31,216
creating lolcat memes.
1772
01:11:31,218 --> 01:11:32,851
But these memes have
real consequences
1773
01:11:32,853 --> 01:11:35,120
in the real world
for real people.
1774
01:11:36,691 --> 01:11:39,892
This idea of fake news
is sort of a misnomer,
1775
01:11:39,894 --> 01:11:42,861
because fake news
creates real opinions,
1776
01:11:42,863 --> 01:11:45,364
which creates real actions.
1777
01:11:45,366 --> 01:11:49,301
And then we live with the real
consequences of that, right?
1778
01:11:49,303 --> 01:11:53,504
No amount of reporting
makes Pizzagate real.
1779
01:11:53,506 --> 01:11:55,975
But the bullet that goes through
1780
01:11:55,977 --> 01:11:58,509
that pizza shop is very real
1781
01:11:58,511 --> 01:12:02,715
and could've killed someone.
1782
01:12:02,717 --> 01:12:04,850
Pizzagate actually comes from
1783
01:12:04,852 --> 01:12:06,852
the Wikileaks release
of hacked emails
1784
01:12:06,854 --> 01:12:09,355
from Clinton campaign
chairman John Podesta.
1785
01:12:09,357 --> 01:12:10,723
And it was from those emails
1786
01:12:10,725 --> 01:12:12,358
that the claims
that John Podesta
1787
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,694
may be part of a child sex
trafficking ring come from.
1788
01:12:15,696 --> 01:12:17,896
Whenever the media
talks about Pizzagate,
1789
01:12:17,898 --> 01:12:19,832
don't just look at
what they bring up.
1790
01:12:19,834 --> 01:12:21,700
Look at what they
don't bring up.
1791
01:12:21,702 --> 01:12:25,337
The Pizzagate, as it's now
called a conspiracy theory,
1792
01:12:25,339 --> 01:12:28,539
actually originated in a
Podesta email that's quite weird
1793
01:12:28,541 --> 01:12:30,676
and to this day is perplexing.
1794
01:12:30,678 --> 01:12:33,212
Where somebody
told John Podesta,
1795
01:12:33,214 --> 01:12:35,948
you left a handkerchief
on the counter.
1796
01:12:35,950 --> 01:12:37,515
There's a map on there.
1797
01:12:37,517 --> 01:12:39,420
Something pizza-related.
1798
01:12:41,621 --> 01:12:43,188
Who cares, a handkerchief?
1799
01:12:43,190 --> 01:12:45,024
Throw a handkerchief away.
1800
01:12:45,026 --> 01:12:46,792
You're gonna FedEx
somebody a handkerchief?
1801
01:12:46,794 --> 01:12:48,626
That's so bizarre.
1802
01:12:48,628 --> 01:12:51,030
And then who writes a
map on a handkerchief?
1803
01:12:51,032 --> 01:12:53,732
And then the map is
something pizza-related.
1804
01:12:53,734 --> 01:12:54,632
That's bizarre.
1805
01:12:54,634 --> 01:12:56,135
That's code word for something.
1806
01:12:56,137 --> 01:12:57,970
Could be codes for drugs.
1807
01:12:57,972 --> 01:13:00,773
I don't know, but nobody
in the media ever said,
1808
01:13:00,775 --> 01:13:03,541
hey dude, why would
you have a handkerchief
1809
01:13:03,543 --> 01:13:05,543
with a map on it
that's pizza-related,
1810
01:13:05,545 --> 01:13:06,812
and why would anybody
think it's important enough
1811
01:13:06,814 --> 01:13:08,714
to send it to you?
1812
01:13:08,716 --> 01:13:11,884
Users of the anonymous
online message board 4chan,
1813
01:13:11,886 --> 01:13:13,752
known for rogue
political discussion,
1814
01:13:13,754 --> 01:13:16,221
suggested without
any proof whatsoever
1815
01:13:16,223 --> 01:13:19,391
that the word pizza was code
for child sex trafficking
1816
01:13:19,393 --> 01:13:20,959
at the restaurant.
1817
01:13:20,961 --> 01:13:22,795
The conspiracy theory
quickly spread to Reddit,
1818
01:13:22,797 --> 01:13:25,764
and YouTube, feeding
fake online news stories,
1819
01:13:25,766 --> 01:13:28,100
then jumping to
Facebook and Twitter.
1820
01:13:28,102 --> 01:13:29,600
People on 4chan and 8chan,
1821
01:13:29,602 --> 01:13:31,804
they just post and
they say, guys,
1822
01:13:31,806 --> 01:13:33,571
look at this, what
the hell is this?
1823
01:13:33,573 --> 01:13:34,773
And then they just start
connecting the dots.
1824
01:13:34,775 --> 01:13:36,008
And it's all public record.
1825
01:13:36,010 --> 01:13:37,642
It's all out there
in the public domain.
1826
01:13:37,644 --> 01:13:39,445
And all they're doing
is connecting the dots,
1827
01:13:39,447 --> 01:13:41,449
that the media wouldn't touch.
1828
01:13:42,582 --> 01:13:43,849
And the media wants
you to believe
1829
01:13:43,851 --> 01:13:45,684
that you can't look
at the stuff and say,
1830
01:13:45,686 --> 01:13:47,519
yeah, this is really weird.
1831
01:13:47,521 --> 01:13:48,787
This is really fucking weird.
1832
01:13:48,789 --> 01:13:50,923
The amazing thing
about Pizzagate
1833
01:13:50,925 --> 01:13:54,660
is that if you start looking
into the evidence for it,
1834
01:13:54,662 --> 01:13:56,095
it's really compelling.
1835
01:13:56,097 --> 01:13:58,497
Meaning that it's
hard to imagine
1836
01:13:58,499 --> 01:14:00,699
that all of that
evidence doesn't mean
1837
01:14:00,701 --> 01:14:05,706
what the Pizzagate
conspiracy thought it meant.
1838
01:14:06,874 --> 01:14:09,308
But, it's also classic
confirmation bias.
1839
01:14:09,310 --> 01:14:11,977
Yeah, there's another piece
of evidence for my side.
1840
01:14:11,979 --> 01:14:13,278
Yeah, there's another one.
1841
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,281
Even though other people
could look at it and just say,
1842
01:14:16,283 --> 01:14:18,050
what the hell are
you talking about?
1843
01:14:18,052 --> 01:14:19,818
I don't see it.
1844
01:14:19,820 --> 01:14:21,153
The Pizzagate narrative,
1845
01:14:21,155 --> 01:14:24,990
as least as concerning Mr.
Alefantis at Comet Ping Pong,
1846
01:14:24,992 --> 01:14:27,659
we have subsequently
determined was based upon
1847
01:14:27,661 --> 01:14:30,529
what we now believe was
an incorrect narrative.
1848
01:14:30,531 --> 01:14:31,964
We apologize.
1849
01:14:31,966 --> 01:14:33,465
To the extent our commentaries
1850
01:14:33,467 --> 01:14:35,400
could be considered
as negative statements
1851
01:14:35,402 --> 01:14:38,036
about Mr. Alefantis
or Comet Ping Pong.
1852
01:14:38,038 --> 01:14:40,506
We encourage you to
hold us accountable,
1853
01:14:40,508 --> 01:14:43,242
because we improve when you do.
1854
01:14:43,244 --> 01:14:45,911
These, they call themselves
Pizzagate researchers,
1855
01:14:45,913 --> 01:14:47,212
which I never was.
1856
01:14:47,214 --> 01:14:51,016
They have video after
video, analyzing everything.
1857
01:14:51,018 --> 01:14:54,419
And somehow, it became
about a pizza parlor.
1858
01:14:54,421 --> 01:14:56,655
The Comet Pizza
shooting, by the way,
1859
01:14:56,657 --> 01:14:57,990
is a very sad thing,
1860
01:14:57,992 --> 01:14:59,558
and the shooter had
no connection to me,
1861
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,560
he had never read my stuff.
1862
01:15:01,562 --> 01:15:03,996
The fake news media has claimed
1863
01:15:03,998 --> 01:15:06,331
that I propagated it and
spread it and everything,
1864
01:15:06,333 --> 01:15:08,767
but they can never
find me blaming
1865
01:15:08,769 --> 01:15:11,036
that pizza parlor for anything.
1866
01:15:11,038 --> 01:15:12,204
They can never find me blaming
1867
01:15:12,206 --> 01:15:14,273
the owner of that pizza
parlor for anything.
1868
01:15:14,275 --> 01:15:18,377
But I was always focused
on things that were real,
1869
01:15:18,379 --> 01:15:19,912
and that are bizarre.
1870
01:15:19,914 --> 01:15:22,214
You tweeted the Clintons
were running a pedophilia ring.
1871
01:15:22,216 --> 01:15:24,082
It's been in emails
all the time.
1872
01:15:24,084 --> 01:15:25,951
We just weren't able
to see the code.
1873
01:15:25,953 --> 01:15:27,352
Yeah, I don't agree with that.
1874
01:15:27,354 --> 01:15:28,620
You
don't agree with that?
1875
01:15:28,622 --> 01:15:29,888
I definitely don't
think the Clintons
1876
01:15:29,890 --> 01:15:31,523
are personally running
a pedophilia ring.
1877
01:15:31,525 --> 01:15:32,724
So
why did you write it?
1878
01:15:32,726 --> 01:15:34,426
That was worded imprecisely.
1879
01:15:34,428 --> 01:15:36,128
- That was more...
- Why did you write it then?
1880
01:15:36,130 --> 01:15:37,963
You can go back to 2004,
1881
01:15:37,965 --> 01:15:38,931
where there was a puff piece
1882
01:15:38,933 --> 01:15:41,266
written about Tony Podesta.
1883
01:15:41,268 --> 01:15:43,035
Washington Post and
The Guardian had both
1884
01:15:43,037 --> 01:15:45,204
written pieces
about what a great
1885
01:15:45,206 --> 01:15:47,039
avant-garde art collector he is.
1886
01:15:47,041 --> 01:15:48,240
And they say,
oh, it's just art.
1887
01:15:48,242 --> 01:15:49,575
It's just modern art.
1888
01:15:49,577 --> 01:15:51,076
It's just art, don't
worry about it.
1889
01:15:51,078 --> 01:15:52,811
It's kind of like,
that's kind of a cop-out.
1890
01:15:52,813 --> 01:15:54,413
If it's art or not,
it's screwed up.
1891
01:15:54,415 --> 01:15:56,748
For the vast
majority of Americans,
1892
01:15:56,750 --> 01:15:58,116
they're gonna look
into that and say,
1893
01:15:58,118 --> 01:15:59,718
that's weird stuff.
1894
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,721
Now, maybe Cernovich
over-plays it.
1895
01:16:02,723 --> 01:16:05,891
Maybe he sensationalizes
a little bit.
1896
01:16:05,893 --> 01:16:07,793
But the sentiment of it is,
1897
01:16:07,795 --> 01:16:09,127
these are very creepy people.
1898
01:16:09,129 --> 01:16:10,829
There's an email from
the Wikileaks where
1899
01:16:10,831 --> 01:16:12,130
the Podestas talk about having
1900
01:16:12,132 --> 01:16:13,966
stayed in touch
a Dennis Hastert.
1901
01:16:13,968 --> 01:16:15,968
Dennis Hastert was a
long time family friend.
1902
01:16:15,970 --> 01:16:17,836
Dennis Hastert went to prison
1903
01:16:17,838 --> 01:16:19,438
for money laundering offenses
1904
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:23,141
related to paying off
his pedophile victims.
1905
01:16:23,143 --> 01:16:24,743
People that he had victimized
1906
01:16:24,745 --> 01:16:26,245
when they were young, underage.
1907
01:16:26,247 --> 01:16:28,146
Why are you still friends
with Dennis Hastert?
1908
01:16:28,148 --> 01:16:30,983
He is a pedophile,
he did go to prison.
1909
01:16:30,985 --> 01:16:33,452
The media didn't want
to ask those questions.
1910
01:16:33,454 --> 01:16:35,854
And in a way,
that's probably why,
1911
01:16:35,856 --> 01:16:37,956
Pizzagate probably
got out of control
1912
01:16:37,958 --> 01:16:39,591
because the media actually
refused to ask the questions.
1913
01:16:39,593 --> 01:16:42,662
The shooting incident
shows how a fake news story
1914
01:16:42,664 --> 01:16:45,464
can lead to a real life
threatening situation.
1915
01:16:45,466 --> 01:16:47,165
Devastating consequences.
1916
01:16:47,167 --> 01:16:48,533
Real world consequences.
1917
01:16:48,535 --> 01:16:50,102
I mean, it seemed to me as if
1918
01:16:50,104 --> 01:16:51,637
the media had been giving
us marching orders.
1919
01:16:51,639 --> 01:16:52,971
Fake news, they insisted,
1920
01:16:52,973 --> 01:16:55,207
was an imminent threat
to American democracy.
1921
01:16:55,209 --> 01:16:56,541
A threat to democracy.
1922
01:16:56,543 --> 01:16:58,678
The dangers to
democracy are obvious.
1923
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,779
Who invented the
phrase fake news
1924
01:17:00,781 --> 01:17:02,180
in its modern context?
1925
01:17:02,182 --> 01:17:03,815
Who wanted to control
the information
1926
01:17:03,817 --> 01:17:06,285
we were receiving on the
internet and on the news and why?
1927
01:17:06,287 --> 01:17:08,186
Fake news is a phrase
1928
01:17:08,188 --> 01:17:11,023
I had never ever ever
heard in my life,
1929
01:17:11,025 --> 01:17:13,458
and I don't think any American
had heard in their lives
1930
01:17:13,460 --> 01:17:16,163
until a month
after the election.
1931
01:17:17,666 --> 01:17:19,531
And if you look, you can go
on Google trends or something,
1932
01:17:19,533 --> 01:17:21,233
and you can type in fake news.
1933
01:17:21,235 --> 01:17:23,703
And you can see a chart
for how many times
1934
01:17:23,705 --> 01:17:25,871
that phrase was mentioned
on the internet.
1935
01:17:25,873 --> 01:17:30,409
But the chart has, you
know, zero mentions ever.
1936
01:17:30,411 --> 01:17:32,179
And then all at once.
1937
01:17:33,247 --> 01:17:34,513
It skyrockets.
1938
01:17:34,515 --> 01:17:37,049
On September 13th, 2016,
1939
01:17:37,051 --> 01:17:39,918
a nonprofit called First
Draft announced a partnership
1940
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,022
to tackle malicious hoaxes
and fake news reports.
1941
01:17:44,024 --> 01:17:45,357
If you follow the money,
1942
01:17:45,359 --> 01:17:46,759
you often get a lot of
answers to questions.
1943
01:17:46,761 --> 01:17:49,762
So I want to know who
is behind the funding
1944
01:17:49,764 --> 01:17:51,764
for that nonprofit First Draft.
1945
01:17:51,766 --> 01:17:54,199
And its anti-fake news campaign.
1946
01:17:54,201 --> 01:17:57,436
It turns out the funding
came from Google.
1947
01:17:57,438 --> 01:17:59,104
Google's parent company Alphabet
1948
01:17:59,106 --> 01:18:02,240
was headed at the time by
a man name Eric Schmidt,
1949
01:18:02,242 --> 01:18:03,909
who happens to have
devoted himself
1950
01:18:03,911 --> 01:18:05,745
to Hillary Clinton's
election campaign,
1951
01:18:05,747 --> 01:18:08,180
offered himself up as a
strategist to her campaign,
1952
01:18:08,182 --> 01:18:10,449
and is listed as her
number one campaign donor
1953
01:18:10,451 --> 01:18:12,050
through his company, Alphabet.
1954
01:18:12,052 --> 01:18:14,754
So his company funded
this nonprofit First Draft
1955
01:18:14,756 --> 01:18:17,222
around the start of
the election cycle.
1956
01:18:17,224 --> 01:18:18,056
Why is that the case?
1957
01:18:18,058 --> 01:18:19,358
'Cause Google is
a search engine.
1958
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,026
It's a tech company.
1959
01:18:21,028 --> 01:18:23,395
What's Google doing palling
around with Hillary Clinton
1960
01:18:23,397 --> 01:18:24,731
and the state department
and the government
1961
01:18:24,733 --> 01:18:26,898
and all these deep state people?
1962
01:18:26,900 --> 01:18:29,067
Was the whole
anti-fake news campaign
1963
01:18:29,069 --> 01:18:31,603
an attempt to shape our views,
1964
01:18:31,605 --> 01:18:34,072
and limit our access
to certain information
1965
01:18:34,074 --> 01:18:37,142
by labeling selected
website and stories as fake
1966
01:18:37,144 --> 01:18:38,143
and controversial-izing them.
1967
01:18:38,145 --> 01:18:39,746
And it's totally a sign-up.
1968
01:18:39,748 --> 01:18:40,979
It's totally a sign-up.
1969
01:18:40,981 --> 01:18:43,148
Since the fake news
meme got going,
1970
01:18:43,150 --> 01:18:45,917
Facebook started labeling
certain news stories
1971
01:18:45,919 --> 01:18:48,086
from alternative media
outlets fake news,
1972
01:18:48,088 --> 01:18:51,125
and so you know, if they
can't ban the First Amendment
1973
01:18:52,226 --> 01:18:54,126
straight out right away,
1974
01:18:54,128 --> 01:18:56,161
they go for plan B, which
is discredit anybody
1975
01:18:56,163 --> 01:18:57,462
that isn't themselves,
1976
01:18:57,464 --> 01:18:59,832
and to get them
banned semi-legally
1977
01:18:59,834 --> 01:19:01,233
with stuff like Facebook.
1978
01:19:01,235 --> 01:19:03,803
Which is basically a
monopoly at this point.
1979
01:19:03,805 --> 01:19:06,238
There are no real competitors
to Facebook in this country,
1980
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:07,606
or Twitter, or Google.
1981
01:19:07,608 --> 01:19:11,410
If you get kicked off these
big Silicon Valley platforms,
1982
01:19:11,412 --> 01:19:12,745
you're basically fucked.
1983
01:19:12,747 --> 01:19:14,781
Facebook and other
social media sites
1984
01:19:14,783 --> 01:19:16,749
are being criticized
for not doing enough
1985
01:19:16,751 --> 01:19:18,250
to stop bogus stories.
1986
01:19:18,252 --> 01:19:20,285
This week,
social media giants
1987
01:19:20,287 --> 01:19:21,586
Facebook and Google
1988
01:19:21,588 --> 01:19:24,189
said they will go
after hoax websites
1989
01:19:24,191 --> 01:19:26,291
by restricting ad revenue.
1990
01:19:26,293 --> 01:19:30,262
Almost 100% of our videos
1991
01:19:30,264 --> 01:19:33,198
are demonetized as a punishment
1992
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,268
for what we are
politically doing.
1993
01:19:40,875 --> 01:19:44,509
So simultaneously, the
corporate media demonizes us
1994
01:19:44,511 --> 01:19:46,278
for direct selling products,
1995
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,046
so we can fund our operation,
1996
01:19:48,048 --> 01:19:50,982
while Google had us
banned off Google ads,
1997
01:19:50,984 --> 01:19:54,654
and while they have
demonetized us 95%
1998
01:19:54,656 --> 01:19:56,321
for our political views.
1999
01:19:56,323 --> 01:19:58,858
So they want me to just
go to the gulag, shut up,
2000
01:19:58,860 --> 01:20:01,460
go bankrupt, shut down,
and stop having my speech.
2001
01:20:01,462 --> 01:20:02,728
And I'm not gonna do it.
2002
01:20:02,730 --> 01:20:04,529
I think the end
game in America
2003
01:20:04,531 --> 01:20:07,365
is European-style
hate speech laws.
2004
01:20:07,367 --> 01:20:09,201
A lot of people in
America don't know this,
2005
01:20:09,203 --> 01:20:12,637
but in Germany and Sweden
and the UK and in France,
2006
01:20:12,639 --> 01:20:15,340
you've had ordinary
people go to prison
2007
01:20:15,342 --> 01:20:18,043
for making anti-immigration
or anti-Islam
2008
01:20:18,045 --> 01:20:20,045
posts on Facebook.
2009
01:20:20,047 --> 01:20:22,314
Sweden should be a
canary in the coal mine
2010
01:20:22,316 --> 01:20:24,149
for the rest of us.
2011
01:20:24,151 --> 01:20:26,218
The police have just warned
us that if we don't leave now
2012
01:20:26,220 --> 01:20:27,419
and take this escort,
2013
01:20:27,421 --> 01:20:29,020
it's gonna get really
bad really fast.
2014
01:20:29,022 --> 01:20:31,189
They said 50 people
could be here in minutes,
2015
01:20:31,191 --> 01:20:32,357
and they recognize us.
2016
01:20:32,359 --> 01:20:33,391
They're masking up.
2017
01:20:33,393 --> 01:20:34,326
We have to leave.
2018
01:20:34,328 --> 01:20:35,862
And when I go to Stockholm,
2019
01:20:35,864 --> 01:20:38,430
and actually get escorted
out by the police,
2020
01:20:38,432 --> 01:20:41,333
the media in Sweden
claimed I wasn't
2021
01:20:41,335 --> 01:20:42,902
escorted out by the police.
2022
01:20:42,904 --> 01:20:46,404
Well, no, I have GoPro
footage as I was walking out.
2023
01:20:46,406 --> 01:20:49,274
I took my Gimble and started
filming the police behind me.
2024
01:20:49,276 --> 01:20:52,410
Yet the mainstream
media, the Swedish media,
2025
01:20:52,412 --> 01:20:53,880
reported the police perspective
2026
01:20:53,882 --> 01:20:55,514
that I was wrong,
that I was lying.
2027
01:20:55,516 --> 01:20:56,883
And then immediately
started attacking me.
2028
01:20:56,885 --> 01:20:57,850
I started getting phone calls.
2029
01:20:57,852 --> 01:21:00,218
My phone would not stop ringing.
2030
01:21:00,220 --> 01:21:02,120
They started sharing my
phone number with each other.
2031
01:21:02,122 --> 01:21:03,555
I kid you not.
2032
01:21:03,557 --> 01:21:06,057
And so I actually went on a
national television program.
2033
01:21:06,059 --> 01:21:08,026
So welcome to Opinion Live.
2034
01:21:08,028 --> 01:21:09,261
They had scheduled
me on this program
2035
01:21:09,263 --> 01:21:11,196
before I went to Rinkeby.
2036
01:21:11,198 --> 01:21:12,564
But when I went on,
2037
01:21:12,566 --> 01:21:14,232
they asked me to explain
what happened in Rinkeby.
2038
01:21:14,234 --> 01:21:15,768
They first said that the police
2039
01:21:15,770 --> 01:21:18,403
have disputed my claims
that I was escorted out,
2040
01:21:18,405 --> 01:21:20,372
and asked me to clarify,
2041
01:21:20,374 --> 01:21:24,209
to which I responded
basically how I just did,
2042
01:21:24,211 --> 01:21:26,378
and she responded in Swedish,
2043
01:21:26,380 --> 01:21:28,213
instead of saying what I said,
2044
01:21:28,215 --> 01:21:30,282
she said, "He's
talking about Rinkeby,
2045
01:21:30,284 --> 01:21:32,617
"but the police have
disputed what he is saying,
2046
01:21:32,619 --> 01:21:34,219
"and say that he is lying."
2047
01:21:34,221 --> 01:21:36,087
They didn't even tell
the audience what I said.
2048
01:21:36,089 --> 01:21:40,325
They just said I was a liar.
2049
01:21:40,327 --> 01:21:41,459
I have talked with people
2050
01:21:41,461 --> 01:21:43,295
who have visited
Sweden on vacation,
2051
01:21:43,297 --> 01:21:44,931
and you know what they tell me?
2052
01:21:44,933 --> 01:21:46,832
They tell me it's the
North Korea of the North.
2053
01:21:46,834 --> 01:21:49,167
One of the largest
newspapers, Expressin,
2054
01:21:49,169 --> 01:21:53,605
hacked a comment system
to find anonymous posters.
2055
01:21:53,607 --> 01:21:55,340
They find their
names and addresses.
2056
01:21:55,342 --> 01:21:58,343
They go to the homes
of private individuals,
2057
01:21:58,345 --> 01:22:00,111
film their faces,
and accuse them
2058
01:22:00,113 --> 01:22:02,314
of being white supremacists.
2059
01:22:02,316 --> 01:22:04,449
Sure enough, these
people lose their jobs.
2060
01:22:04,451 --> 01:22:05,517
They lose all their friends.
2061
01:22:05,519 --> 01:22:06,852
People are scared to
interact with them.
2062
01:22:06,854 --> 01:22:09,354
Many people, it's not so
much about being scared
2063
01:22:09,356 --> 01:22:10,288
to interact with them because
2064
01:22:10,290 --> 01:22:11,323
they don't like their opinions.
2065
01:22:11,325 --> 01:22:13,425
It's because they'll
also get blacklisted.
2066
01:22:13,427 --> 01:22:14,760
They're gonna come after you,
2067
01:22:14,762 --> 01:22:16,461
and they're gonna try
and whip up a hate mob
2068
01:22:16,463 --> 01:22:17,863
and get you fired from your job,
2069
01:22:17,865 --> 01:22:19,832
ostracized from your community.
2070
01:22:19,834 --> 01:22:21,433
They're gonna smear you.
2071
01:22:21,435 --> 01:22:22,668
They're gonna call you a
neo-Nazi white supremacist.
2072
01:22:22,670 --> 01:22:24,436
They're gonna call you
a conspiracy theorist.
2073
01:22:24,438 --> 01:22:26,338
They're gonna call
you a Russian agent.
2074
01:22:26,340 --> 01:22:28,977
They're gonna do everything
they can to shut you down.
2075
01:22:34,381 --> 01:22:37,016
And in the face of this
unprecedented censorship,
2076
01:22:37,018 --> 01:22:39,184
we've only seen support grow.
2077
01:22:39,186 --> 01:22:40,518
That's why they lie
worse than ever.
2078
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,855
That's why they're
so hysterical.
2079
01:22:42,857 --> 01:22:44,389
It's why they're so
angry, so hateful.
2080
01:22:44,391 --> 01:22:46,491
Then along came Donald Trump.
2081
01:22:46,493 --> 01:22:48,627
The wild card.
2082
01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:50,395
Probably the only
politician that could have
2083
01:22:50,397 --> 01:22:52,330
or would have been able
to change this dynamic
2084
01:22:52,332 --> 01:22:54,633
and kind of turn the
campaign on its head.
2085
01:22:54,635 --> 01:22:57,737
Each time advocates
cried fake news,
2086
01:22:57,739 --> 01:23:00,305
Donald Trump called
them fake news.
2087
01:23:00,307 --> 01:23:01,707
We were able to turn fake news
2088
01:23:01,709 --> 01:23:03,375
back on them almost instantly.
2089
01:23:03,377 --> 01:23:04,844
Of course with the help of
2090
01:23:04,846 --> 01:23:07,212
President Doctor
Donald J. Trump, PhD,
2091
01:23:07,214 --> 01:23:08,580
which is what I call him now.
2092
01:23:08,582 --> 01:23:10,482
Because he started calling the
mainstream media fake news.
2093
01:23:10,484 --> 01:23:11,516
Since
you are attacking
2094
01:23:11,518 --> 01:23:12,818
- our news organization.
- No, not you, not you.
2095
01:23:12,820 --> 01:23:14,053
Can
you give us a chance?
2096
01:23:14,055 --> 01:23:14,987
Your organization is terrible.
2097
01:23:14,989 --> 01:23:15,955
You're attacking,
President elect,
2098
01:23:15,957 --> 01:23:17,355
- can you give us a question?
- Don't be rude.
2099
01:23:17,357 --> 01:23:18,323
You're attacking us.
2100
01:23:18,325 --> 01:23:19,557
- Can you give us a question?
- Don't be rude.
2101
01:23:19,559 --> 01:23:21,192
- Can you give us a question?
- No I'm not gonna
2102
01:23:21,194 --> 01:23:22,028
give you a question.
2103
01:23:22,030 --> 01:23:22,995
I'm not gonna give
you a question.
2104
01:23:22,997 --> 01:23:23,896
Can you state categorically...
2105
01:23:23,898 --> 01:23:24,764
You are fake news.
2106
01:23:24,766 --> 01:23:25,931
The news is fake.
2107
01:23:25,933 --> 01:23:27,232
Fake media, the
failing New York Times.
2108
01:23:27,234 --> 01:23:28,034
Fake news.
2109
01:23:28,036 --> 01:23:29,200
Very fake news.
2110
01:23:29,202 --> 01:23:30,402
They should be
ashamed of themselves.
2111
01:23:31,338 --> 01:23:32,404
Watch how the crowd.
2112
01:23:32,406 --> 01:23:33,505
Donald Trump is...
2113
01:23:33,507 --> 01:23:34,940
You know I've
been hearing more and more
2114
01:23:34,942 --> 01:23:36,508
about a thing called fake news.
2115
01:23:36,510 --> 01:23:38,110
But I will tell you,
some of the media outlets
2116
01:23:38,112 --> 01:23:40,211
that I deal with are fake news.
2117
01:23:44,551 --> 01:23:45,350
Look at this!
2118
01:23:45,352 --> 01:23:46,418
President Trump...
2119
01:23:46,420 --> 01:23:48,087
And so as soon as
they introduced the idea
2120
01:23:48,089 --> 01:23:49,789
that news can be fake,
2121
01:23:49,791 --> 01:23:51,589
it was turned against
them almost immediately.
2122
01:23:53,593 --> 01:23:55,193
The ring just imploded!
2123
01:23:55,195 --> 01:23:56,729
The official
presidential tweet
2124
01:23:56,731 --> 01:23:58,731
is an old wrestling
video takedown
2125
01:23:58,733 --> 01:24:00,432
with businessman Trump,
2126
01:24:00,434 --> 01:24:02,534
doctored with the CNN logo
2127
01:24:02,536 --> 01:24:04,271
covering the face of his victim.
2128
01:24:05,472 --> 01:24:08,874
When Trump posted the
CNN of wrestling meme,
2129
01:24:08,876 --> 01:24:10,308
it was absolutely hilarious.
2130
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:11,443
It was great.
2131
01:24:11,445 --> 01:24:12,745
Memes are funny.
2132
01:24:12,747 --> 01:24:13,946
There's really no
other way to put it.
2133
01:24:13,948 --> 01:24:16,448
Memes are fucking hilarious.
2134
01:24:16,450 --> 01:24:18,550
Anonymous internet memes
are for a lot of people
2135
01:24:18,552 --> 01:24:21,553
the only way to get exposed
to what's the truth.
2136
01:24:21,555 --> 01:24:22,922
And the reason
people are anonymous
2137
01:24:22,924 --> 01:24:24,123
and why it's so
powerful is because
2138
01:24:24,125 --> 01:24:25,390
if you're not anonymous,
2139
01:24:25,392 --> 01:24:27,960
and you don't have fuck
you money basically,
2140
01:24:27,962 --> 01:24:29,427
the media is gonna
come after you,
2141
01:24:29,429 --> 01:24:32,397
like they came after
the guy who posted
2142
01:24:32,399 --> 01:24:35,067
the CNN wrestling meme
that Donald Trump tweeted.
2143
01:24:35,069 --> 01:24:37,635
Did you just see this
Trump thing, the CNN thing?
2144
01:24:37,637 --> 01:24:39,604
CNN tracked down the dude
2145
01:24:39,606 --> 01:24:41,506
who posted the Trump
wrestling video.
2146
01:24:41,508 --> 01:24:43,308
They threatened
to dox this kid.
2147
01:24:43,310 --> 01:24:44,910
CNN said they wouldn't
publish the guy's name
2148
01:24:44,912 --> 01:24:46,511
'cause he had
already apologized,
2149
01:24:46,513 --> 01:24:49,081
and also because he promised
he wouldn't do it again.
2150
01:24:49,083 --> 01:24:51,516
But then CNN adds,
they reserve the right
2151
01:24:51,518 --> 01:24:52,918
to publish his identity
2152
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,519
should any of that change.
2153
01:24:54,521 --> 01:24:56,254
Apparently the guy
posted some pretty
2154
01:24:56,256 --> 01:24:58,657
bad stuff in the
past, but come on CNN.
2155
01:24:58,659 --> 01:25:00,291
You're starting to creep us out.
2156
01:25:00,293 --> 01:25:01,593
I don't think
they have a choice,
2157
01:25:01,595 --> 01:25:02,862
except to step it up.
2158
01:25:02,864 --> 01:25:05,798
Because we're really in
an existential battle
2159
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:06,832
for the meaning of free speech
2160
01:25:06,834 --> 01:25:08,500
and for the meaning of truth.
2161
01:25:08,502 --> 01:25:10,301
People have gotten
a very very skewed
2162
01:25:10,303 --> 01:25:11,804
line of free speech today.
2163
01:25:11,806 --> 01:25:13,371
The skewed definition.
2164
01:25:13,373 --> 01:25:16,608
They think that free
speech and hate speech
2165
01:25:16,610 --> 01:25:19,178
are two different things.
2166
01:25:19,180 --> 01:25:20,545
Which it's absolutely not.
2167
01:25:20,547 --> 01:25:21,613
Hate speech is free speech.
2168
01:25:21,615 --> 01:25:22,848
It's the ability to
express yourself,
2169
01:25:22,850 --> 01:25:25,217
whether someone finds
it hateful or not.
2170
01:25:25,219 --> 01:25:26,618
My position is very simple.
2171
01:25:26,620 --> 01:25:28,856
There are just three genders.
2172
01:25:29,957 --> 01:25:31,623
There's man.
2173
01:25:31,625 --> 01:25:32,660
Woman.
2174
01:25:33,694 --> 01:25:34,559
And retarded.
2175
01:25:34,561 --> 01:25:36,195
You should be allowed to say
2176
01:25:36,197 --> 01:25:38,563
the most offensive things
on Earth in free speech.
2177
01:25:38,565 --> 01:25:39,832
This young man is retarded.
2178
01:25:39,834 --> 01:25:41,700
America's first first man.
2179
01:25:41,702 --> 01:25:43,334
One self-proclaimed
internet troll,
2180
01:25:43,336 --> 01:25:47,706
Milo Yiannopolis, tells us
he's unapologetic and proud,
2181
01:25:47,708 --> 01:25:49,675
even after being
banned from Twitter
2182
01:25:49,677 --> 01:25:51,643
for his infamous online taunting
2183
01:25:51,645 --> 01:25:54,246
of "Ghostbusters"
star Leslie Jones.
2184
01:25:54,248 --> 01:25:55,647
In the Twitter
storm that happened.
2185
01:25:55,649 --> 01:25:58,150
- Sure, I was mean.
- You called her a dude.
2186
01:25:58,152 --> 01:25:59,384
I said it was a good job
2187
01:25:59,386 --> 01:26:00,653
there was a hot black
dude in the movie.
2188
01:26:00,655 --> 01:26:02,021
She looks like a man.
2189
01:26:02,023 --> 01:26:04,522
I am entitled to say that I
think a celebrity looks weird.
2190
01:26:04,524 --> 01:26:07,893
I feel like things are
going even more and more
2191
01:26:07,895 --> 01:26:10,162
to each extreme.
2192
01:26:10,164 --> 01:26:11,764
Join us in protest!
2193
01:26:11,766 --> 01:26:13,565
And shut down Milo Yiannopolis.
2194
01:26:13,567 --> 01:26:15,333
Milo was touring
the country for a bit,
2195
01:26:15,335 --> 01:26:16,902
and every place he went,
2196
01:26:16,904 --> 01:26:18,671
there was period
blood being thrown.
2197
01:26:18,673 --> 01:26:20,673
There was girls
screaming outside,
2198
01:26:20,675 --> 01:26:22,440
smashing garbage
cans on the ground.
2199
01:26:22,442 --> 01:26:24,409
There were people trying
to punch him on stage.
2200
01:26:24,411 --> 01:26:26,245
And then eventually,
2201
01:26:26,247 --> 01:26:28,783
liberals just took it
to a whole new extreme.
2202
01:26:31,719 --> 01:26:36,288
And that was at Berkeley.
2203
01:26:44,932 --> 01:26:48,300
I was here this evening
to speak at UC Berkeley.
2204
01:26:48,302 --> 01:26:50,602
I'm just sitting in a
hotel room, stunned,
2205
01:26:50,604 --> 01:26:54,439
that hundreds of people
were throwing rocks,
2206
01:26:54,441 --> 01:26:57,243
throwing goodness
knows what else
2207
01:26:57,245 --> 01:26:59,111
at the building, throwing
fireworks at the police.
2208
01:26:59,113 --> 01:27:01,247
Because they're so
threatened by the idea
2209
01:27:01,249 --> 01:27:02,614
that a conservative
speaker might be
2210
01:27:02,616 --> 01:27:04,250
persuasive and
interesting and funny.
2211
01:27:04,252 --> 01:27:06,486
They just have to shut
it down at all costs.
2212
01:27:07,755 --> 01:27:08,787
I'm a gay Trump supporter.
2213
01:27:08,789 --> 01:27:10,923
I wanted to go watch
a gay Trump supporter.
2214
01:27:10,925 --> 01:27:13,728
I think Milo is
absolutely hilarious.
2215
01:27:14,929 --> 01:27:16,662
We met up at a coffee shop
across the street from Berkeley,
2216
01:27:16,664 --> 01:27:18,731
and I was just waiting for
my friends to trickle in,
2217
01:27:18,733 --> 01:27:21,834
and it was just all these antifa
people were already there.
2218
01:27:21,836 --> 01:27:24,336
So they're already
kind of flirting
2219
01:27:24,338 --> 01:27:25,905
with the idea of violence.
2220
01:27:25,907 --> 01:27:28,473
So antifa was a
group that was started
2221
01:27:28,475 --> 01:27:31,777
in the early 1900s in
Germany, obviously,
2222
01:27:31,779 --> 01:27:33,946
as an anti-fascist group,
2223
01:27:33,948 --> 01:27:36,514
but they were the
violent militant wing
2224
01:27:36,516 --> 01:27:38,918
of the Communist
party in Germany.
2225
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,654
And as they continued on,
2226
01:27:41,656 --> 01:27:42,988
they still have
the same message.
2227
01:27:42,990 --> 01:27:46,191
They're communists
that believe in
2228
01:27:46,193 --> 01:27:48,794
destroying anything
they deem to be fascism
2229
01:27:48,796 --> 01:27:50,963
through any means possible.
2230
01:27:50,965 --> 01:27:52,965
They're screaming
hey fascists, hey Nazi.
2231
01:27:52,967 --> 01:27:54,767
I forget the particular slogans
2232
01:27:54,769 --> 01:27:56,534
that they're all
chanting in unison.
2233
01:27:58,706 --> 01:28:00,773
The irony of it is
because I was so naive,
2234
01:28:00,775 --> 01:28:01,641
I kind of,
2235
01:28:03,177 --> 01:28:06,345
I kind of thought that I could
connect with these people
2236
01:28:06,347 --> 01:28:08,047
and say look, I don't
support those things either,
2237
01:28:08,049 --> 01:28:08,981
and they would just immediately
2238
01:28:08,983 --> 01:28:10,783
understand and believe me.
2239
01:28:10,785 --> 01:28:12,550
But you know, symbols are more
2240
01:28:12,552 --> 01:28:14,353
powerful than words sometimes.
2241
01:28:14,355 --> 01:28:16,188
And you're wearing the
wrong piece of clothing,
2242
01:28:16,190 --> 01:28:17,622
and it's just not gonna do.
2243
01:28:17,624 --> 01:28:18,857
I mean, props to
them for the ones
2244
01:28:18,859 --> 01:28:19,858
who are doing it nonviolently,
2245
01:28:19,860 --> 01:28:21,293
but I think that's a
very rare thing indeed.
2246
01:28:21,295 --> 01:28:22,527
So thank you.
2247
01:28:22,529 --> 01:28:24,462
Are you surprised?
2248
01:28:24,464 --> 01:28:25,831
Ma'am?
2249
01:28:25,833 --> 01:28:27,299
And then two
minutes after that,
2250
01:28:27,301 --> 01:28:29,234
bare maced again.
2251
01:28:29,236 --> 01:28:30,736
Beat with flag poles.
2252
01:28:30,738 --> 01:28:32,738
My friend got put
in the hospital.
2253
01:28:32,740 --> 01:28:35,142
And that actually
didn't air anywhere.
2254
01:28:41,082 --> 01:28:42,081
That's wild.
2255
01:28:42,083 --> 01:28:43,481
Never reported in the media.
2256
01:28:44,452 --> 01:28:46,251
I have been wanting to
have this conversation
2257
01:28:46,253 --> 01:28:47,252
because this has
been a big issue
2258
01:28:47,254 --> 01:28:48,854
about free speech on campus
2259
01:28:48,856 --> 01:28:50,756
and conservative
voices being heard.
2260
01:28:50,758 --> 01:28:52,257
Mr. Rice, my first
question to you is,
2261
01:28:52,259 --> 01:28:53,659
is the violence that we saw,
2262
01:28:53,661 --> 01:28:54,693
this violence we
saw at Berkeley.
2263
01:28:54,695 --> 01:28:56,862
We had it live here
on CNN last night.
2264
01:28:56,864 --> 01:28:57,763
It ultimately, does it,
2265
01:28:57,765 --> 01:28:59,530
it plays right into the hands
2266
01:28:59,532 --> 01:29:01,767
of a right wing,
white supremacist,
2267
01:29:01,769 --> 01:29:03,902
someone like Milo Yiannopolis.
2268
01:29:03,904 --> 01:29:05,838
Like I told the news
woman over there that like
2269
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,706
specifically it was
their narrative.
2270
01:29:07,708 --> 01:29:08,907
They were a part of this.
2271
01:29:08,909 --> 01:29:11,010
It was their narrative
that was causing
2272
01:29:11,012 --> 01:29:12,277
the violence on the left.
2273
01:29:12,279 --> 01:29:13,611
This is not to remove
personal responsibility
2274
01:29:13,613 --> 01:29:15,881
from the actual people
that do the violence,
2275
01:29:15,883 --> 01:29:18,784
but they pretend
to be objective.
2276
01:29:18,786 --> 01:29:20,386
And that's the part.
2277
01:29:20,388 --> 01:29:22,955
And they implant these
ideas in your head,
2278
01:29:22,957 --> 01:29:24,589
and they'll say things like,
2279
01:29:24,591 --> 01:29:26,925
well some people call these
people white nationalists.
2280
01:29:26,927 --> 01:29:28,761
Do they ask any of
the people there?
2281
01:29:28,763 --> 01:29:31,130
No, because that would
actually be real journalism.
2282
01:29:31,132 --> 01:29:32,731
The real problem
is this name calling
2283
01:29:32,733 --> 01:29:35,134
because you know, as grateful
as I am to be on the show
2284
01:29:35,136 --> 01:29:36,468
and I like the attention,
2285
01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:37,870
the real people that
I want to hear from
2286
01:29:37,872 --> 01:29:40,439
are the guys who run CNN
2287
01:29:40,441 --> 01:29:42,875
who are legitimizing
ordinary conservatives
2288
01:29:42,877 --> 01:29:45,477
being called white
supremacists, anti-Semites,
2289
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:46,912
racist, sexist,
when they're not.
2290
01:29:46,914 --> 01:29:49,580
There's an inevitable
obvious consequence.
2291
01:29:49,582 --> 01:29:51,984
The things that had been
said about Donald Trump
2292
01:29:51,986 --> 01:29:54,552
led to extreme violence.
2293
01:29:55,956 --> 01:29:56,922
In Donald Trump's America,
2294
01:29:56,924 --> 01:29:58,490
everyone is
speculating as to who
2295
01:29:58,492 --> 01:29:59,892
should be the most afraid.
2296
01:29:59,894 --> 01:30:01,293
Black people, Latinos.
2297
01:30:01,295 --> 01:30:03,495
We gravel every day
with that it means
2298
01:30:03,497 --> 01:30:05,798
to have a president
stained by racism.
2299
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:06,765
You voted Trump!
2300
01:30:06,767 --> 01:30:07,933
You voted Trump!
2301
01:30:07,935 --> 01:30:09,301
I'm just gonna be honest.
2302
01:30:09,303 --> 01:30:11,003
We think there might be a
Nazi in the White House.
2303
01:30:11,005 --> 01:30:12,938
He is a bigot, he is a racist,
2304
01:30:12,940 --> 01:30:14,506
he is a misogynist.
2305
01:30:14,508 --> 01:30:16,942
The president's crude and
arguably racist remarks.
2306
01:30:16,944 --> 01:30:18,677
The president
has racist views.
2307
01:30:20,014 --> 01:30:21,346
I'm a Bernie supporter,
but they attacked me.
2308
01:30:21,348 --> 01:30:22,548
Who did?
2309
01:30:22,550 --> 01:30:23,982
They did, they thought I
was a Trump support, I wasn't.
2310
01:30:23,984 --> 01:30:26,985
Tens of millions of
people voted for him
2311
01:30:26,987 --> 01:30:30,022
after he showed his
cards, for years.
2312
01:30:30,024 --> 01:30:32,524
Are you suggesting
that they're racist?
2313
01:30:32,526 --> 01:30:33,826
Absolutely, yes.
2314
01:30:33,828 --> 01:30:35,427
That is pure racism.
2315
01:30:35,429 --> 01:30:38,030
And the president
is cynically using
2316
01:30:38,032 --> 01:30:42,000
that racism to
appeal to his base.
2317
01:30:42,002 --> 01:30:43,836
If everyone is a
white supremacist,
2318
01:30:43,838 --> 01:30:45,971
what does that even
mean anymore, you know?
2319
01:30:45,973 --> 01:30:48,207
Are you just gonna accuse
anyone who disagrees with you?
2320
01:30:48,209 --> 01:30:50,676
I have people who tell me
that I'm a Nazi sympathizer
2321
01:30:50,678 --> 01:30:52,478
for being friends
with Trump supporters,
2322
01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:54,480
or that I'm a racist.
2323
01:30:54,482 --> 01:30:56,348
And I'm actually a
mixed race person.
2324
01:30:56,350 --> 01:30:58,283
It's like nuance has
gone out the window,
2325
01:30:58,285 --> 01:30:59,785
and none of it matters anymore.
2326
01:30:59,787 --> 01:31:01,153
Say you worked in a loony bin,
2327
01:31:01,155 --> 01:31:02,221
and there was this
one guy going,
2328
01:31:02,223 --> 01:31:03,655
the Khmer Rouge are coming!
2329
01:31:03,657 --> 01:31:04,690
The Khmer Rouge are coming!
2330
01:31:04,692 --> 01:31:06,191
Polpot is upstairs.
2331
01:31:06,193 --> 01:31:07,860
The Khmer Rouge are
gonna invade here.
2332
01:31:07,862 --> 01:31:10,162
We gotta stop the
communists in Cambodia.
2333
01:31:10,164 --> 01:31:12,531
And you go, alright, Mr.
McGuillocuddy, it's okay.
2334
01:31:12,533 --> 01:31:13,966
And you'd lead him to his room.
2335
01:31:13,968 --> 01:31:16,401
And you go, he was bitching
about the Khmer Rouge again.
2336
01:31:16,403 --> 01:31:18,737
That's the way the
media is with Nazis.
2337
01:31:18,739 --> 01:31:21,140
They see Nazis in their
soup, they're everywhere.
2338
01:31:21,142 --> 01:31:22,908
Now we have Nazi panic,
2339
01:31:22,910 --> 01:31:24,877
where even if you're a
girl, they'll hit you.
2340
01:31:24,879 --> 01:31:26,478
It doesn't really matter.
2341
01:31:26,480 --> 01:31:27,913
That's what the media does.
2342
01:31:27,915 --> 01:31:30,916
There has been far
more violence by antifa
2343
01:31:30,918 --> 01:31:33,352
against people they
don't agree with,
2344
01:31:33,354 --> 01:31:34,920
especially Trump supporters,
2345
01:31:34,922 --> 01:31:37,156
than there has been violence
by Trump supporters.
2346
01:31:37,158 --> 01:31:40,025
But the media covers
up violence by antifa.
2347
01:31:40,027 --> 01:31:42,427
I've reported from the
White House several times,
2348
01:31:42,429 --> 01:31:44,997
and on one visit, after
the White House press
2349
01:31:44,999 --> 01:31:47,833
briefing had concluded,
I looked over at
2350
01:31:47,835 --> 01:31:49,568
the assembled
journalists and I said,
2351
01:31:49,570 --> 01:31:51,003
why will nobody here
cover the violence
2352
01:31:51,005 --> 01:31:52,571
against Trump supporters?
2353
01:31:52,573 --> 01:31:54,006
And why won't you
demand that leaders
2354
01:31:54,008 --> 01:31:57,075
of the democrats disavow
the violence of antifa
2355
01:31:57,077 --> 01:31:59,011
the way you demanded
Trump disavow
2356
01:31:59,013 --> 01:32:01,246
violence from his supporters?
2357
01:32:01,248 --> 01:32:03,348
This has been
completely covered up.
2358
01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:04,251
They laughed at me.
2359
01:32:05,719 --> 01:32:07,085
They thought that I would care,
2360
01:32:07,087 --> 01:32:08,520
but their laughter
actually proved
2361
01:32:08,522 --> 01:32:09,955
what I wanted to prove.
2362
01:32:09,957 --> 01:32:11,757
I wanted them to laugh at me.
2363
01:32:11,759 --> 01:32:13,058
Because then I
could show people,
2364
01:32:13,060 --> 01:32:14,259
hey, this is what the
media is all about.
2365
01:32:14,261 --> 01:32:16,195
They laugh at violence
against people
2366
01:32:16,197 --> 01:32:17,696
if they don't like you.
2367
01:32:17,698 --> 01:32:19,898
It's also not
surprising that the right,
2368
01:32:19,900 --> 01:32:22,601
in a sense, retaliated,
came back out,
2369
01:32:22,603 --> 01:32:27,608
held more events, to counter
this use of violence by antifa.
2370
01:32:28,809 --> 01:32:30,609
We saw the rise of
the base stick man.
2371
01:32:30,611 --> 01:32:33,145
You know, there's a video
of him cracking a stick
2372
01:32:33,147 --> 01:32:35,981
over this antifa member's head.
2373
01:32:35,983 --> 01:32:37,583
And right then I'm like,
2374
01:32:37,585 --> 01:32:38,884
antifa is going to double down,
2375
01:32:38,886 --> 01:32:39,918
and they're gonna go nuts.
2376
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:40,919
And that's where we saw antifa
2377
01:32:40,921 --> 01:32:43,055
throwing explosives
into the crowd.
2378
01:32:43,057 --> 01:32:44,925
M80, M80!
2379
01:32:45,926 --> 01:32:47,259
Somebody from the antifa side
2380
01:32:47,261 --> 01:32:49,094
just threw an M80
into the crowd.
2381
01:32:49,096 --> 01:32:51,063
We heard a guy got
stabbed in the chest.
2382
01:32:51,065 --> 01:32:52,464
The bike lock
basher Eric Clampton
2383
01:32:52,466 --> 01:32:54,900
hit seven people over the
head with a bike lock.
2384
01:32:56,804 --> 01:32:57,603
Mother fucker!
2385
01:32:57,605 --> 01:32:58,904
If you were asking me,
2386
01:32:58,906 --> 01:33:00,140
I'd say that was an
attempt to murder.
2387
01:33:01,609 --> 01:33:04,977
I guess, you know,
it's sadly predictable.
2388
01:33:04,979 --> 01:33:06,679
That's the scary
thing, you know.
2389
01:33:06,681 --> 01:33:08,480
And it looks like things
are gonna escalate,
2390
01:33:08,482 --> 01:33:09,748
'cause nobody's gonna back down.
2391
01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:11,817
And this is just
the beginning.
2392
01:33:11,819 --> 01:33:13,118
Just the beginning, dude.
2393
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,088
We're gonna come to
every liberal stronghold,
2394
01:33:16,090 --> 01:33:19,024
every city, fucking
Portland, Detroit.
2395
01:33:19,026 --> 01:33:22,160
All you cock suckers in
fucking Boston, watch out.
2396
01:33:22,162 --> 01:33:23,128
We're coming for you.
2397
01:33:23,130 --> 01:33:25,998
The area for
rational discussion,
2398
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,033
as that disappears more,
2399
01:33:28,035 --> 01:33:30,035
I think more people are
going to be radicalized
2400
01:33:30,037 --> 01:33:31,704
to both extremes
and think violence
2401
01:33:31,706 --> 01:33:35,540
is an acceptable
way of protesting
2402
01:33:35,542 --> 01:33:38,377
their distaste for
other peoples opinions.
2403
01:33:54,161 --> 01:33:57,629
Imagine
that your belief systems
2404
01:33:57,631 --> 01:33:59,231
are essentially
maps of the world
2405
01:33:59,233 --> 01:34:02,002
that you use to
orient yourself with.
2406
01:34:02,803 --> 01:34:04,202
News informs you.
2407
01:34:04,204 --> 01:34:07,005
If it's real news,
it updates your map.
2408
01:34:07,007 --> 01:34:09,808
It brings you into
alignment better.
2409
01:34:09,810 --> 01:34:10,842
There should be an alignment
2410
01:34:10,844 --> 01:34:12,544
between you and the world.
2411
01:34:12,546 --> 01:34:14,179
If you're properly informed.
2412
01:34:14,181 --> 01:34:16,181
Handed
almost unlimited power
2413
01:34:16,183 --> 01:34:18,917
to a fascist wannabe.
2414
01:34:18,919 --> 01:34:21,420
Arrogant people,
resentful people,
2415
01:34:21,422 --> 01:34:24,726
believe that deception works.
2416
01:34:29,029 --> 01:34:30,331
That's just not the case.
2417
01:34:33,500 --> 01:34:35,067
When you act out a falsehood,
2418
01:34:35,069 --> 01:34:36,535
then something terrible happens.
2419
01:34:36,537 --> 01:34:39,206
That's the definition of
a falsehood fundamentally.
2420
01:34:40,207 --> 01:34:41,942
Falsehoods have consequences.
2421
01:34:43,077 --> 01:34:44,845
That's what makes them false.
2422
01:34:45,946 --> 01:34:47,948
And you can not believe
that, it's fine.
2423
01:34:49,249 --> 01:34:51,753
You can even get away with
it for some period of time.
2424
01:34:53,253 --> 01:34:57,122
But you're not gonna get
away with it for very long.
2425
01:35:01,895 --> 01:35:03,095
The latest developments
2426
01:35:03,097 --> 01:35:05,732
in the shooting of a Republican
congressman and others
2427
01:35:05,734 --> 01:35:08,200
at a baseball practice
outside of Washington.
2428
01:35:08,202 --> 01:35:10,602
Congressman Steve
Scalise has been shot.
2429
01:35:10,604 --> 01:35:12,973
Apparently deliberately
targeting the GOP.
2430
01:35:15,309 --> 01:35:17,142
There was a shooting by
a Bernie Sanders supporter
2431
01:35:17,144 --> 01:35:18,745
and pro-antifa person
2432
01:35:18,747 --> 01:35:21,213
at a congressional
baseball practice
2433
01:35:21,215 --> 01:35:22,614
called the Scalise shooting now.
2434
01:35:22,616 --> 01:35:24,316
He cursed President Trump,
2435
01:35:24,318 --> 01:35:26,385
labeled the president a traitor,
2436
01:35:26,387 --> 01:35:29,488
and called for his destruction
in several Facebook posts.
2437
01:35:29,490 --> 01:35:30,790
And then the mainstream media,
2438
01:35:30,792 --> 01:35:31,758
they acted like
they really cared.
2439
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,091
Oh, they really cared.
2440
01:35:33,093 --> 01:35:34,393
The shooter died
from his injuries
2441
01:35:34,395 --> 01:35:36,061
after the shootout
with capital police.
2442
01:35:36,063 --> 01:35:39,431
News that we first were told
by President Trump himself
2443
01:35:39,433 --> 01:35:42,300
who had a somber and reflective
2444
01:35:42,302 --> 01:35:43,836
message for the nation.
2445
01:35:43,838 --> 01:35:44,804
No, the people know.
2446
01:35:44,806 --> 01:35:46,304
The people watch them laughed
2447
01:35:46,306 --> 01:35:48,306
when they were asked
about violence.
2448
01:35:48,308 --> 01:35:50,609
They know that the media
wants more shootings.
2449
01:35:50,611 --> 01:35:52,411
Obviously everybody is
wishing the congressman well
2450
01:35:52,413 --> 01:35:54,279
- and hoping that he recovers.
- Sure, sure.
2451
01:35:54,281 --> 01:35:55,947
But Steve Scalise
has a history
2452
01:35:55,949 --> 01:35:59,985
that we've all been forced
to sort of ignore on race.
2453
01:35:59,987 --> 01:36:02,421
He did come to leadership
after some controversy
2454
01:36:02,423 --> 01:36:05,290
over attending a white
nationalist event.
2455
01:36:05,292 --> 01:36:06,625
They want people to get shot,
2456
01:36:06,627 --> 01:36:08,828
because they act as a
propaganda arm for antifa,
2457
01:36:08,830 --> 01:36:10,595
which is a domestic
terrorist group,
2458
01:36:10,597 --> 01:36:12,698
under investigation by the FBI,
2459
01:36:12,700 --> 01:36:14,801
and they laugh at
violence against people
2460
01:36:14,803 --> 01:36:16,301
they don't agree
with politically.
2461
01:36:16,303 --> 01:36:17,837
The New York Times interviewed
2462
01:36:17,839 --> 01:36:19,872
the suspect's brother,
who said the 66 year old
2463
01:36:19,874 --> 01:36:22,607
was upset over the election
of President Trump.
2464
01:36:22,609 --> 01:36:25,780
And went to Washington within
the last few weeks to protest.
2465
01:36:28,716 --> 01:36:31,717
Our axiomatic systems
orient us in the world
2466
01:36:31,719 --> 01:36:34,019
and regulate our emotions.
2467
01:36:34,021 --> 01:36:35,220
Donald J. Trump is now
2468
01:36:35,222 --> 01:36:36,988
President of the United States.
2469
01:36:36,990 --> 01:36:38,523
No!
2470
01:36:38,525 --> 01:36:42,795
So when something axiomatically
impossible happens,
2471
01:36:42,797 --> 01:36:45,731
people are going to
scramble to find reasons
2472
01:36:45,733 --> 01:36:48,333
that don't require retooling
of their world view.
2473
01:36:48,335 --> 01:36:51,036
And it's no wonder
'cause they're avoiding,
2474
01:36:51,038 --> 01:36:52,337
in archetypal terms,
2475
01:36:52,339 --> 01:36:55,207
they're avoiding an involuntary
dissent to the underworld.
2476
01:36:55,209 --> 01:36:56,376
And even to hell.
2477
01:36:57,544 --> 01:36:58,878
That's also why
people fight so hard
2478
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,979
to protect not only
their belief systems,
2479
01:37:00,981 --> 01:37:02,547
but their social systems.
2480
01:37:02,549 --> 01:37:05,584
Often, that means
accusing someone else.
2481
01:37:05,586 --> 01:37:06,754
Trump is a Nazi!
2482
01:37:07,755 --> 01:37:09,988
Trump is a Nazi!
2483
01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:12,157
Because then they have
to change in our view.
2484
01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:13,358
Trump's a racist!
2485
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,093
Trump's a racist!
2486
01:37:15,095 --> 01:37:18,530
A world view adjustment
is a major revolution,
2487
01:37:18,532 --> 01:37:20,198
and you may not recover from it.
2488
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:21,834
It just might do you in.
2489
01:37:21,836 --> 01:37:23,669
Or maybe you're
chronically depressed.
2490
01:37:23,671 --> 01:37:25,738
And so when you dig
down and you have to
2491
01:37:25,740 --> 01:37:27,105
restructure those axioms,
2492
01:37:27,107 --> 01:37:29,274
not only do you
have to encounter
2493
01:37:29,276 --> 01:37:33,046
the unknown as such,
which is no joke,
2494
01:37:33,948 --> 01:37:35,915
but you may also
have to discover
2495
01:37:35,917 --> 01:37:37,549
your own malevolence.
2496
01:37:37,551 --> 01:37:40,753
Well, it's no wonder
people turn away from that.
2497
01:37:40,755 --> 01:37:41,754
It's not surprising at all.
2498
01:37:41,756 --> 01:37:43,290
And everyone is like that.
2499
01:37:44,258 --> 01:37:46,458
And this is why I'm
no fan of ideologies,
2500
01:37:46,460 --> 01:37:50,028
generally speaking, because
they place a mask of virtue
2501
01:37:50,030 --> 01:37:53,900
over a dark set of motivations.
2502
01:37:53,902 --> 01:37:55,200
And then you can tolerate
2503
01:37:55,202 --> 01:37:56,804
looking at yourself
in the mirror.
2504
01:37:58,071 --> 01:37:59,739
Well there's plenty of
motivation to falsify,
2505
01:37:59,741 --> 01:38:03,443
but it's a bad idea.
2506
01:38:04,311 --> 01:38:06,311
You live out the falsifications,
2507
01:38:06,313 --> 01:38:09,283
and the world hit you.
2508
01:38:10,117 --> 01:38:11,416
We begin
with breaking news
2509
01:38:11,418 --> 01:38:12,919
from Charlottesville, Virginia,
2510
01:38:12,921 --> 01:38:14,386
where two people
have been injured
2511
01:38:14,388 --> 01:38:16,323
in an altercation
with protestors
2512
01:38:17,157 --> 01:38:18,423
who were out in force
2513
01:38:18,425 --> 01:38:21,761
over the planned removal
of a Confederate statue.
2514
01:38:21,763 --> 01:38:23,161
Watch this.
2515
01:38:24,431 --> 01:38:28,133
So my opinion of the
race-baiting that's going on,
2516
01:38:28,135 --> 01:38:31,904
and my opinion of the
portrayal of the social strife
2517
01:38:31,906 --> 01:38:34,172
and the neo-Nazis and et cetera
2518
01:38:34,174 --> 01:38:37,442
is another example
of a business model
2519
01:38:37,444 --> 01:38:40,947
by the mainstream cable
news networks and media
2520
01:38:40,949 --> 01:38:44,951
to try to create an
environment of discontent.
2521
01:38:44,953 --> 01:38:46,451
What happened over the weekend
2522
01:38:46,453 --> 01:38:49,122
in Charlottesville, Virginia
was just disgusting.
2523
01:38:50,290 --> 01:38:51,691
I was watching the news
like everyone else.
2524
01:38:54,494 --> 01:38:56,294
And you see Nazi
flags and torches
2525
01:38:56,296 --> 01:38:57,697
and white supremacists.
2526
01:38:57,699 --> 01:39:00,833
Hate no
longer hides behind hoods.
2527
01:39:00,835 --> 01:39:02,534
I was sick to my stomach.
2528
01:39:02,536 --> 01:39:05,303
And by the way, I have
nothing but disdain for Nazis.
2529
01:39:05,305 --> 01:39:08,440
Is this guy wearing
a Hitler shirt?
2530
01:39:08,442 --> 01:39:09,709
Yes he is.
2531
01:39:09,711 --> 01:39:11,343
I think the whole
Charlottesville thing,
2532
01:39:11,345 --> 01:39:13,045
I don't think, you have
to have a zero tolerance
2533
01:39:13,047 --> 01:39:14,546
policy on Nazis.
2534
01:39:14,548 --> 01:39:16,649
But I think that they're
a very very small
2535
01:39:16,651 --> 01:39:19,284
portion of the population,
2536
01:39:19,286 --> 01:39:22,520
and if this was the
1960s, 70s, or 80s,
2537
01:39:22,522 --> 01:39:24,724
objectively they
wouldn't be worthy enough
2538
01:39:24,726 --> 01:39:27,325
of the news standing that
they're getting right now.
2539
01:39:27,327 --> 01:39:31,630
I think that the media
will gin up controversy,
2540
01:39:31,632 --> 01:39:34,066
take things and blow
them out of proportion
2541
01:39:34,068 --> 01:39:35,333
to gin up ratings.
2542
01:39:35,335 --> 01:39:37,535
It glues people, it's addictive.
2543
01:39:40,374 --> 01:39:41,741
Of course everyone today
2544
01:39:41,743 --> 01:39:43,408
is talking about
the latest events
2545
01:39:43,410 --> 01:39:47,013
that just unfolded in
Charlottesville, Virginia.
2546
01:39:47,015 --> 01:39:48,981
Today we have a
very special guest
2547
01:39:48,983 --> 01:39:50,382
who was there on the ground.
2548
01:39:50,384 --> 01:39:53,485
Basically there was all
of the Unite the Right
2549
01:39:53,487 --> 01:39:56,354
type people in the area
that they were sort of
2550
01:39:56,356 --> 01:39:57,857
designated to be in.
2551
01:39:57,859 --> 01:40:01,060
And police mostly had
a hands-off approach.
2552
01:40:01,062 --> 01:40:03,095
They had set up barricades
2553
01:40:03,097 --> 01:40:06,498
between that and then
the outside protestors
2554
01:40:06,500 --> 01:40:07,432
who were basically
supposed to stay
2555
01:40:07,434 --> 01:40:09,534
outside of the park.
2556
01:40:09,536 --> 01:40:11,369
The problem is that of course,
2557
01:40:11,371 --> 01:40:14,572
the ring wingers have to
walk through those protestors
2558
01:40:14,574 --> 01:40:16,574
in order to get into the park.
2559
01:40:16,576 --> 01:40:18,044
And so most of the
violence occurred
2560
01:40:18,046 --> 01:40:19,411
kind of at that peripheral.
2561
01:40:19,413 --> 01:40:21,747
As we've seen from other
events like in Berkeley,
2562
01:40:21,749 --> 01:40:22,614
where there was police,
2563
01:40:22,616 --> 01:40:24,249
and they left the scene,
2564
01:40:24,251 --> 01:40:27,452
and let these two
sides fight each other.
2565
01:40:27,454 --> 01:40:29,256
Hey, how come
you guys are hanging back?
2566
01:40:32,259 --> 01:40:34,359
That would be a good question
for the chief of police.
2567
01:40:34,361 --> 01:40:35,861
What did you
see on the ground,
2568
01:40:35,863 --> 01:40:36,896
and how do you think the police
2569
01:40:36,898 --> 01:40:38,430
conducted themselves today?
2570
01:40:38,432 --> 01:40:40,598
Mostly, the police
stayed uninvolved
2571
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,702
for the first couple of hours.
2572
01:40:42,704 --> 01:40:45,270
Eventually, the
barricades that they had
2573
01:40:45,272 --> 01:40:48,406
originally set up were
taken down by the antifa.
2574
01:40:50,544 --> 01:40:52,610
Virginia Governor
Terry McCauliffe
2575
01:40:52,612 --> 01:40:54,914
declares a state of emergency.
2576
01:40:56,383 --> 01:40:59,384
Then, that terrible moment.
2577
01:41:02,556 --> 01:41:04,556
When the driver
of this gray Dodge
2578
01:41:04,558 --> 01:41:06,624
mows down a group of marchers
2579
01:41:06,626 --> 01:41:08,493
who were protesting the rally.
2580
01:41:08,495 --> 01:41:10,628
19 people were injured.
2581
01:41:10,630 --> 01:41:13,465
32 year old Heather
Heyer was killed.
2582
01:41:13,467 --> 01:41:15,600
Heather's mother
told us her daughter
2583
01:41:15,602 --> 01:41:18,904
was there protesting
white supremacy.
2584
01:41:18,906 --> 01:41:21,974
The driver was caught
by our ABC cameras,
2585
01:41:21,976 --> 01:41:24,344
chanting a message
of white power.
2586
01:41:29,249 --> 01:41:30,482
And we're back.
2587
01:41:30,484 --> 01:41:33,018
Mike Cernovich,
gorillamindset.com,
2588
01:41:33,020 --> 01:41:34,854
with a dimly lit Periscope,
2589
01:41:34,856 --> 01:41:36,621
and I think I need
to fix my hair.
2590
01:41:36,623 --> 01:41:40,025
We now have in America
neo-Nazi terrorists.
2591
01:41:40,027 --> 01:41:41,493
I wish it weren't otherwise,
2592
01:41:41,495 --> 01:41:44,163
but when you're driving a
car into a crowd of people
2593
01:41:44,165 --> 01:41:45,798
after attending
a neo-Nazi event,
2594
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,034
then you have to call
it on both ways, right?
2595
01:41:49,036 --> 01:41:50,602
In a press conference
this afternoon,
2596
01:41:50,604 --> 01:41:52,872
when asked about the
events in Charlottesville,
2597
01:41:52,874 --> 01:41:54,539
Trump had this to say.
2598
01:41:54,541 --> 01:41:57,042
I think there's
blame on both sides.
2599
01:41:58,946 --> 01:42:00,679
Alright, it's just like D-Day.
2600
01:42:00,681 --> 01:42:05,316
Remember, D-Day, two sides,
allies and the Nazis.
2601
01:42:05,318 --> 01:42:08,687
There was a lot of violence
on both sides, okay?
2602
01:42:08,689 --> 01:42:10,622
But how can you talk about
2603
01:42:10,624 --> 01:42:12,994
the terrorism of the
neo-Nazis on the right,
2604
01:42:14,028 --> 01:42:15,627
but then look the other way
2605
01:42:15,629 --> 01:42:17,295
when the alt-left is
committing terrorism.
2606
01:42:17,297 --> 01:42:21,133
One is a Nazi white
supremacist group.
2607
01:42:21,135 --> 01:42:22,868
The other is a protest group,
2608
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:25,971
protesting a political
and a racist movement.
2609
01:42:25,973 --> 01:42:28,506
Maybe their tactics
weren't exactly right.
2610
01:42:28,508 --> 01:42:30,575
Don Lemon goes,
well, you know,
2611
01:42:30,577 --> 01:42:35,181
the alt-left, antifa, maybe
they have some bad tactics.
2612
01:42:35,183 --> 01:42:36,982
And they're white-washing it.
2613
01:42:36,984 --> 01:42:38,583
What about the alt-left
2614
01:42:38,585 --> 01:42:41,519
that came charging at, as
you say, the alt-right?
2615
01:42:42,522 --> 01:42:45,090
Do they have any
semblance of guilt?
2616
01:42:45,092 --> 01:42:46,692
First of all, sir,
2617
01:42:46,694 --> 01:42:48,694
the opposite of alt-right
isn't the alt-left.
2618
01:42:49,730 --> 01:42:52,164
It's the not-Nazis.
2619
01:42:56,336 --> 01:42:57,535
That's just me.
2620
01:42:57,537 --> 01:43:00,072
- I think you got it.
- No I don't know.
2621
01:43:00,074 --> 01:43:02,041
- I think you got it.
- Let's be fair, John.
2622
01:43:02,043 --> 01:43:03,976
- I think you got it.
- You gotta be fair, John.
2623
01:43:03,978 --> 01:43:05,378
No that's pretty fair.
2624
01:43:08,082 --> 01:43:11,549
It's time for the left
to actually take a stand.
2625
01:43:11,551 --> 01:43:16,556
99.999% of the right is
against the neo-Nazis.
2626
01:43:17,390 --> 01:43:20,726
99.999% of the left is against
2627
01:43:20,728 --> 01:43:22,562
the alt-left terrorism, but,
2628
01:43:23,363 --> 01:43:25,430
but if you're a liberal,
2629
01:43:25,432 --> 01:43:27,365
if you're a liberal,
2630
01:43:27,367 --> 01:43:29,034
it's time to start
calling this stuff out.
2631
01:43:29,036 --> 01:43:30,269
Thanks for watching.
2632
01:43:30,271 --> 01:43:31,103
Mike Cernovitch.
2633
01:43:31,105 --> 01:43:32,637
I'll be back soon.
2634
01:43:32,639 --> 01:43:33,973
We'll talk more.
2635
01:43:33,975 --> 01:43:35,607
My life is in danger every day
2636
01:43:35,609 --> 01:43:38,777
because the media has falsely
claimed that I'm alt-right,
2637
01:43:38,779 --> 01:43:39,778
when I'm clearly not.
2638
01:43:39,780 --> 01:43:41,646
Red rover, red rover,
2639
01:43:41,648 --> 01:43:43,414
send Cernovich over.
2640
01:43:43,416 --> 01:43:44,650
I'm not part of that.
2641
01:43:44,652 --> 01:43:46,252
You want a red pill.
2642
01:43:46,254 --> 01:43:47,887
How about a leg pill?
2643
01:43:47,889 --> 01:43:49,722
The alt-right may
have started out
2644
01:43:49,724 --> 01:43:53,659
as something different a
year ago or two years ago.
2645
01:43:53,661 --> 01:43:55,828
It may have been about
just an alternative
2646
01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:57,329
to mainstream republicans,
2647
01:43:57,331 --> 01:44:00,398
but it has clearly
morphed into ultimately
2648
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:04,569
an anti-Jewish, anti-everybody
hate filled movement.
2649
01:44:04,571 --> 01:44:07,505
So I've said, hey, you guys
have free speech rights.
2650
01:44:07,507 --> 01:44:09,641
I've said the alt-right
has free speech rights
2651
01:44:09,643 --> 01:44:11,677
to go give their talks
and public rallies.
2652
01:44:11,679 --> 01:44:13,444
But I've said if your
movement is based on hate,
2653
01:44:13,446 --> 01:44:15,647
I completely want
nothing to do with it.
2654
01:44:15,649 --> 01:44:17,482
And I said if you want
to throw Nazi salutes,
2655
01:44:17,484 --> 01:44:18,784
I don't want anything
to do with you.
2656
01:44:18,786 --> 01:44:19,685
Don't come to my event.
2657
01:44:19,687 --> 01:44:21,419
Stay far far away from me.
2658
01:44:21,421 --> 01:44:23,621
The media, though, they call
me alt-right to this day.
2659
01:44:23,623 --> 01:44:26,759
For people who
vote for Donald Trump
2660
01:44:26,761 --> 01:44:30,195
to get lumped in with white
supremacists and extremists,
2661
01:44:30,197 --> 01:44:33,032
it's true in a lot of regards
2662
01:44:33,034 --> 01:44:35,367
'cause you have the KKK,
2663
01:44:35,369 --> 01:44:40,374
who are marching the morning
after Trump won the election.
2664
01:44:41,641 --> 01:44:42,540
You have alt-right
groups and groups
2665
01:44:42,542 --> 01:44:44,143
that call themselves hate groups
2666
01:44:44,145 --> 01:44:46,477
that are holding up Trump
signs at their rallies.
2667
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,781
There were Trump signs in
Charlottesville, right?
2668
01:44:48,783 --> 01:44:51,216
Living in America
as a black man,
2669
01:44:51,218 --> 01:44:53,484
I'm constantly traumatized.
2670
01:44:53,486 --> 01:44:55,988
I'm traumatized by the
statistics that I see,
2671
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:58,223
I'm traumatized by what
I watch on the news
2672
01:44:58,225 --> 01:44:59,892
when black people
are choked to death,
2673
01:44:59,894 --> 01:45:02,728
I'm traumatized by what
I see on social media.
2674
01:45:02,730 --> 01:45:04,863
Black men being show in
front of their families
2675
01:45:04,865 --> 01:45:06,799
by the police and
nothing happening.
2676
01:45:06,801 --> 01:45:09,735
Black men with full
carry weapons permits.
2677
01:45:09,737 --> 01:45:10,836
I'm traumatized.
2678
01:45:10,838 --> 01:45:12,671
Where's the help for my trauma?
2679
01:45:12,673 --> 01:45:15,407
Who's addressing my
needs psychologically?
2680
01:45:15,409 --> 01:45:17,044
These are things
we don't look at.
2681
01:45:34,061 --> 01:45:36,261
I'm a freedom fighter,
I'm a revolutionary,
2682
01:45:36,263 --> 01:45:38,864
I'm a Christian, I'm
a proud American.
2683
01:45:38,866 --> 01:45:42,001
Although people
won't admit to it,
2684
01:45:42,003 --> 01:45:44,672
America is a very racist place.
2685
01:45:45,906 --> 01:45:47,740
It was founded on
racial practices.
2686
01:45:47,742 --> 01:45:50,175
And these practices
still exist today.
2687
01:45:50,177 --> 01:45:51,877
Maybe to the extent today,
2688
01:45:51,879 --> 01:45:53,846
not to the extent
today where before,
2689
01:45:53,848 --> 01:45:56,382
but these racist
practices still exist.
2690
01:45:56,384 --> 01:45:57,683
And if you are a Christian,
2691
01:45:57,685 --> 01:45:59,084
if you are American,
2692
01:45:59,086 --> 01:46:02,456
you could look at the facts
and say, yes, this is true.
2693
01:46:05,092 --> 01:46:06,358
Black lives matter.
2694
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:07,960
Black lives matter.
2695
01:46:07,962 --> 01:46:09,461
That's the mantra
2696
01:46:09,463 --> 01:46:11,864
and the message of protests
around the country.
2697
01:46:11,866 --> 01:46:13,899
Saying only
black lives matter,
2698
01:46:13,901 --> 01:46:14,967
then we do not have to say it.
2699
01:46:14,969 --> 01:46:16,268
Black
lives matter is mean.
2700
01:46:16,270 --> 01:46:18,538
A black person gets
killed by the police
2701
01:46:19,707 --> 01:46:22,107
under questionable
circumstances.
2702
01:46:22,109 --> 01:46:24,910
Black people rally.
2703
01:46:24,912 --> 01:46:26,577
The cop goes to court,
2704
01:46:26,579 --> 01:46:28,414
and no matter how questionable,
2705
01:46:28,416 --> 01:46:31,485
it always seems as though
the cop walks away.
2706
01:46:33,054 --> 01:46:34,753
Does this always happen?
2707
01:46:34,755 --> 01:46:36,755
No, sometimes the
cops get convicted,
2708
01:46:36,757 --> 01:46:39,725
but it just seems to
be a reoccurring theme.
2709
01:46:39,727 --> 01:46:41,326
There's an aspect
of Black Lives Matter
2710
01:46:41,328 --> 01:46:44,763
which is well-needed,
very well-needed,
2711
01:46:44,765 --> 01:46:47,766
and that is police misconduct,
2712
01:46:47,768 --> 01:46:49,567
militarization of police force.
2713
01:46:49,569 --> 01:46:51,806
The average person, what
do they know about us?
2714
01:46:53,074 --> 01:46:55,407
They know what the
media tells them.
2715
01:46:55,409 --> 01:46:57,776
They say BLM is anti-cop.
2716
01:46:57,778 --> 01:47:00,179
Boy do we have
an atrocious case
2717
01:47:00,181 --> 01:47:02,848
of the media twisting things
2718
01:47:02,850 --> 01:47:04,917
in order to lead people
in the wrong direction.
2719
01:47:04,919 --> 01:47:07,853
It happens to be a Fox
affiliate in Baltimore.
2720
01:47:07,855 --> 01:47:09,922
At this
rally in Washington, DC,
2721
01:47:09,924 --> 01:47:13,192
participants chanted, "We
won't stop, we can't stop,
2722
01:47:13,194 --> 01:47:14,993
"so kill a cop."
2723
01:47:14,995 --> 01:47:16,195
We won't stop!
2724
01:47:16,197 --> 01:47:16,995
We won't stop!
2725
01:47:16,997 --> 01:47:17,863
We can't stop!
2726
01:47:17,865 --> 01:47:18,997
We can't stop!
2727
01:47:18,999 --> 01:47:19,832
So kill a cop!
2728
01:47:19,834 --> 01:47:21,166
So kill a cop!
2729
01:47:21,168 --> 01:47:23,102
And that is not at
all what they said.
2730
01:47:23,104 --> 01:47:24,803
So the actual chant was,
2731
01:47:24,805 --> 01:47:27,539
we can't stop, we won't stop,
2732
01:47:27,541 --> 01:47:30,309
'til killer cops
are in cell blocks.
2733
01:47:30,311 --> 01:47:31,110
We won't stop.
2734
01:47:31,112 --> 01:47:31,877
We won't stop!
2735
01:47:31,879 --> 01:47:32,811
We can't stop!
2736
01:47:32,813 --> 01:47:33,879
We can't stop!
2737
01:47:33,881 --> 01:47:34,947
'Til killer cops.
2738
01:47:34,949 --> 01:47:35,848
'Til killer cops.
2739
01:47:35,850 --> 01:47:36,782
Are in cell blocks.
2740
01:47:36,784 --> 01:47:37,950
Are in cell blocks.
2741
01:47:37,952 --> 01:47:39,184
I'm not anti-cop.
2742
01:47:39,186 --> 01:47:40,519
There are members
of my group who are.
2743
01:47:40,521 --> 01:47:43,023
Because I know,
2744
01:47:44,525 --> 01:47:49,194
I know cops who are, as
people, decent human beings.
2745
01:47:49,196 --> 01:47:52,831
Black Lives Matter has
been subject to fake news
2746
01:47:52,833 --> 01:47:54,900
in the sense that
the media does want
2747
01:47:54,902 --> 01:47:56,869
to sensationalize
what is happening.
2748
01:47:56,871 --> 01:48:01,006
So if there's a
big major protest,
2749
01:48:01,008 --> 01:48:03,976
then the media isn't
gonna cover that.
2750
01:48:03,978 --> 01:48:05,911
They want to cover the 20 people
2751
01:48:05,913 --> 01:48:07,179
lighting cars on fires,
2752
01:48:07,181 --> 01:48:08,847
flipping things over,
2753
01:48:08,849 --> 01:48:10,916
committing violence
and other things.
2754
01:48:13,687 --> 01:48:16,021
There's a difference
between a protest and a riot.
2755
01:48:16,023 --> 01:48:17,689
Burn that motherfucker down.
2756
01:48:21,162 --> 01:48:23,428
Burn this motherfucker down!
2757
01:48:23,430 --> 01:48:24,363
Burn this bitch down!
2758
01:48:24,365 --> 01:48:25,933
So in that regard,
2759
01:48:27,101 --> 01:48:30,169
a lot of people associate
Black Lives Matter
2760
01:48:30,171 --> 01:48:32,604
being discredited,
but on the other hand,
2761
01:48:32,606 --> 01:48:34,940
there was a journalist, a
Korean-American journalist,
2762
01:48:34,942 --> 01:48:37,843
Tim Pool, who went
to cover the protest,
2763
01:48:37,845 --> 01:48:38,877
which then turned
out to be riots,
2764
01:48:38,879 --> 01:48:40,379
in I believe Milwaukee.
2765
01:48:40,381 --> 01:48:41,680
One of the first
things we hear
2766
01:48:41,682 --> 01:48:43,015
is the crowd getting
angry and saying,
2767
01:48:43,017 --> 01:48:44,683
"What are these white
people doing here?
2768
01:48:44,685 --> 01:48:45,551
"Fuck white people.
2769
01:48:45,553 --> 01:48:46,852
"White people suck."
2770
01:48:46,854 --> 01:48:48,921
And it culminated with
an 18 year old white kid
2771
01:48:48,923 --> 01:48:50,556
being shot in the
neck yesterday.
2772
01:48:50,558 --> 01:48:52,057
That's a problem and
that's a conversation
2773
01:48:52,059 --> 01:48:53,759
that needs to be had.
2774
01:48:53,761 --> 01:48:55,194
For those that are
perceivable-y white,
2775
01:48:55,196 --> 01:48:58,530
it is just not safe to be here.
2776
01:48:58,532 --> 01:49:00,899
And that's why I'm
deciding to leave.
2777
01:49:00,901 --> 01:49:03,535
They interviewed a girl there
2778
01:49:03,537 --> 01:49:05,037
who was yelling
about how they need
2779
01:49:05,039 --> 01:49:07,072
to stop the violence
in Milwaukee.
2780
01:49:07,074 --> 01:49:09,074
Thy kingdom come.
2781
01:49:09,076 --> 01:49:10,442
Thy will be done.
2782
01:49:10,444 --> 01:49:12,211
With his
sister calling for peace.
2783
01:49:12,213 --> 01:49:13,312
Helped bring the violence here
2784
01:49:13,314 --> 01:49:14,780
and the ignorance here.
2785
01:49:14,782 --> 01:49:16,114
But the other
half of that clip
2786
01:49:16,116 --> 01:49:17,115
was her screaming
they need to bring
2787
01:49:17,117 --> 01:49:19,551
the violence to
white neighborhoods.
2788
01:49:19,553 --> 01:49:22,588
Y'all burning down shit
we need in our community.
2789
01:49:22,590 --> 01:49:24,657
Take that shit to the suburbs.
2790
01:49:24,659 --> 01:49:25,824
Burn that shit down.
2791
01:49:25,826 --> 01:49:27,660
That is fake news right there,
2792
01:49:27,662 --> 01:49:30,062
and it's happening every
day on your TV screen,
2793
01:49:30,064 --> 01:49:31,930
but it's hard to
point out because
2794
01:49:31,932 --> 01:49:34,066
there are bits of
truth within it.
2795
01:49:34,068 --> 01:49:34,967
I ask people, I go,
2796
01:49:34,969 --> 01:49:37,336
can you name a high profile,
2797
01:49:37,338 --> 01:49:40,105
a black person who had
been shot by police?
2798
01:49:40,107 --> 01:49:42,476
And people can, they can
name a few people, right?
2799
01:49:45,312 --> 01:49:48,080
And then I say, can you
think of a white person
2800
01:49:48,082 --> 01:49:49,516
who was shot by police?
2801
01:49:50,517 --> 01:49:51,984
No.
2802
01:49:51,986 --> 01:49:52,951
I go, well did you know that
2803
01:49:52,953 --> 01:49:55,120
twice as many white people
2804
01:49:55,122 --> 01:49:57,189
as black people are shot
by police every year.
2805
01:49:57,191 --> 01:49:58,590
And they go, well yeah,
2806
01:49:58,592 --> 01:49:59,825
but white people are a
majority of the population.
2807
01:49:59,827 --> 01:50:01,927
It's like, I get the statistics.
2808
01:50:01,929 --> 01:50:03,762
But if twice as
many white people
2809
01:50:03,764 --> 01:50:04,965
are shot as black people,
2810
01:50:06,533 --> 01:50:09,434
and you can't name a single
white person shot by police,
2811
01:50:09,436 --> 01:50:11,970
what does that say about
the media's coverage, right?
2812
01:50:11,972 --> 01:50:13,639
The first thing
you hear when a cop
2813
01:50:13,641 --> 01:50:17,109
kills someone of color is
their criminal history,
2814
01:50:17,111 --> 01:50:18,343
if they're an alcoholic,
2815
01:50:18,345 --> 01:50:20,112
they were a woman-beater,
2816
01:50:20,114 --> 01:50:22,047
they were, who knows?
2817
01:50:22,049 --> 01:50:25,517
When a black person is
killed, they're villain-ized.
2818
01:50:25,519 --> 01:50:29,121
And when a white
person is killed,
2819
01:50:29,123 --> 01:50:31,023
they are victimized.
2820
01:50:31,025 --> 01:50:32,624
Villain-ized, victimized.
2821
01:50:32,626 --> 01:50:33,992
And that's no one
else but the media.
2822
01:50:59,019 --> 01:51:00,185
I've never heard about that.
2823
01:51:00,187 --> 01:51:02,821
Shit is crazy.
2824
01:51:02,823 --> 01:51:04,024
This is crazy.
2825
01:51:05,826 --> 01:51:09,161
I don't understand why
I haven't heard of this.
2826
01:51:09,163 --> 01:51:10,929
Like, that's unbelievable.
2827
01:51:10,931 --> 01:51:12,998
This is what's funny
about the media.
2828
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,704
All the victims in
Nashville were white,
2829
01:51:16,837 --> 01:51:19,604
but it is not clear
whether Samson
2830
01:51:19,606 --> 01:51:22,274
specifically targeted
them based on their race.
2831
01:51:22,276 --> 01:51:25,077
That's bullshit, right?
2832
01:51:25,079 --> 01:51:26,111
It's bullshit.
2833
01:51:26,113 --> 01:51:29,114
And this is me talking
about a black person
2834
01:51:29,116 --> 01:51:32,184
who killed white
people at church.
2835
01:51:32,186 --> 01:51:34,419
I don't understand why I
never heard that story.
2836
01:51:34,421 --> 01:51:36,521
And what's more amazing to me is
2837
01:51:36,523 --> 01:51:39,091
I have over three, I don't know,
2838
01:51:39,093 --> 01:51:40,959
three or 4000
friends on Facebook.
2839
01:51:40,961 --> 01:51:43,732
I've never seen that
story published.
2840
01:51:44,865 --> 01:51:46,398
It's interesting to me.
2841
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:47,966
Now in my view,
2842
01:51:47,968 --> 01:51:49,568
the media doesn't
want to give attention
2843
01:51:49,570 --> 01:51:51,069
to white people who are shot,
2844
01:51:51,071 --> 01:51:53,038
because then white
people might say, oh,
2845
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:54,373
it could happen to me too.
2846
01:51:54,375 --> 01:51:56,475
Maybe I ought to talk to these
Black Lives Matter people.
2847
01:51:56,477 --> 01:51:58,745
Maybe we can find common cause.
2848
01:51:58,747 --> 01:52:00,212
The media does not
care about black lives.
2849
01:52:00,214 --> 01:52:01,646
They don't care
about white lives.
2850
01:52:01,648 --> 01:52:03,415
They care about the show.
2851
01:52:03,417 --> 01:52:05,484
And a Black Lives Matter leader,
2852
01:52:05,486 --> 01:52:08,086
who was reasonable and nuanced,
2853
01:52:08,088 --> 01:52:11,456
and wanted to talk both about
rights and responsibilities,
2854
01:52:11,458 --> 01:52:14,159
would resonate with the people.
2855
01:52:14,161 --> 01:52:16,796
And that would be very
frustrating for the media.
2856
01:52:16,798 --> 01:52:18,397
They don't want
people to resonate.
2857
01:52:20,300 --> 01:52:22,401
The way this
rally is different,
2858
01:52:22,403 --> 01:52:25,303
this is one where
it's family-oriented.
2859
01:52:25,305 --> 01:52:27,305
The message is positive.
2860
01:52:27,307 --> 01:52:28,640
We're here to relax.
2861
01:52:28,642 --> 01:52:30,175
We're here to have a good time.
2862
01:52:30,177 --> 01:52:35,082
Washington DC, we're standing
to the right of the stage
2863
01:52:35,916 --> 01:52:37,683
at the mother of all rallies.
2864
01:52:37,685 --> 01:52:40,452
And we had just stepped up,
2865
01:52:40,454 --> 01:52:43,455
and people just started
booing us, heckling us.
2866
01:52:43,457 --> 01:52:46,258
We stood there defiantly
with our fists in the air.
2867
01:52:46,260 --> 01:52:48,160
Chanting, "Black lives matter."
2868
01:52:48,162 --> 01:52:51,196
So they're chanting
back, "All lives matter."
2869
01:52:51,198 --> 01:52:52,765
They're making comments.
2870
01:52:52,767 --> 01:52:55,267
And you know, we saw
a few people who were
2871
01:52:55,269 --> 01:52:58,336
in Charlottesville, and who
we had butted heads with
2872
01:52:58,338 --> 01:53:00,505
a few weeks prior.
2873
01:53:00,507 --> 01:53:03,608
And out of nowhere,
one of the guys said...
2874
01:53:03,610 --> 01:53:05,043
So what we are gonna do
2875
01:53:05,045 --> 01:53:07,279
is something you're not used to,
2876
01:53:07,281 --> 01:53:09,782
and we're gonna give you
two minutes of our platform
2877
01:53:09,784 --> 01:53:11,216
to put your message out.
2878
01:53:11,218 --> 01:53:13,187
When I got on the stage,
2879
01:53:14,321 --> 01:53:16,689
my mind state changed.
2880
01:53:16,691 --> 01:53:19,293
It wasn't fear, it was God.
2881
01:53:20,227 --> 01:53:24,298
And something said
tell them who you are.
2882
01:53:25,365 --> 01:53:27,700
I am an American.
2883
01:53:31,238 --> 01:53:34,674
Secondly, I am a Christian.
2884
01:53:36,911 --> 01:53:40,378
The reason why we fight is
to draw attention to issues
2885
01:53:40,380 --> 01:53:41,681
and to fix it.
2886
01:53:41,683 --> 01:53:44,817
We are not anti-cop.
2887
01:53:44,819 --> 01:53:48,587
We are anti-bad cop.
2888
01:53:50,324 --> 01:53:52,090
We don't want handouts.
2889
01:53:52,092 --> 01:53:54,526
We don't want
anything that's yours.
2890
01:53:54,528 --> 01:53:58,597
We want our God-given
right to freedom,
2891
01:53:58,599 --> 01:54:02,100
liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness.
2892
01:54:05,539 --> 01:54:08,041
USA, USA, USA, USA.
2893
01:54:10,611 --> 01:54:14,780
I think we really made
some substantial steps
2894
01:54:14,782 --> 01:54:17,349
without either side
yielding anything.
2895
01:54:17,351 --> 01:54:19,417
Here I went from
being their enemy
2896
01:54:19,419 --> 01:54:21,620
to someone they want to take
pictures with their children.
2897
01:54:21,622 --> 01:54:23,689
That's the power
of communication.
2898
01:54:23,691 --> 01:54:27,259
Why doesn't the media
tell us this story?
2899
01:54:27,261 --> 01:54:28,260
Why?
2900
01:54:28,262 --> 01:54:32,397
Because people like you
and I will sit down,
2901
01:54:32,399 --> 01:54:34,032
and say, let's figure this out.
2902
01:54:34,034 --> 01:54:36,802
And guess what, it
disrupts the establishment.
2903
01:54:36,804 --> 01:54:38,403
No no no, the
media's never gonna
2904
01:54:38,405 --> 01:54:40,038
give that guy a platform.
2905
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,775
They want to give a
platform to people
2906
01:54:42,777 --> 01:54:44,744
that look monstrous,
2907
01:54:44,746 --> 01:54:46,779
because then you keep
everybody divided.
2908
01:54:46,781 --> 01:54:48,213
You keep everybody paranoid.
2909
01:54:48,215 --> 01:54:49,583
You keep everybody hysterical.
2910
01:54:51,084 --> 01:54:54,654
That is the problem right
now with America is the bubble.
2911
01:54:54,656 --> 01:54:56,555
You click away and you unfollow.
2912
01:54:56,557 --> 01:54:58,089
You separate
yourself from people
2913
01:54:58,091 --> 01:54:59,457
with contradicting views,
2914
01:54:59,459 --> 01:55:02,294
and then you end up with
this sort of snowball
2915
01:55:02,296 --> 01:55:03,963
of your own narrative.
2916
01:55:03,965 --> 01:55:06,331
Your narrative should
be something like,
2917
01:55:06,333 --> 01:55:09,001
I'm constantly trying
to go beyond the truth
2918
01:55:09,003 --> 01:55:10,337
that I already hold.
2919
01:55:11,638 --> 01:55:14,339
Because the truth that you
already hold is not enough.
2920
01:55:14,341 --> 01:55:16,742
You need to know
more than you know.
2921
01:55:16,744 --> 01:55:19,477
If you think about
what the news is,
2922
01:55:19,479 --> 01:55:23,114
what you see in a
newspaper or on TV,
2923
01:55:23,116 --> 01:55:25,283
it's a small fraction
of reality, right?
2924
01:55:25,285 --> 01:55:27,954
There's all the things
that have happened.
2925
01:55:27,956 --> 01:55:30,589
There's all the things
that they know about.
2926
01:55:30,591 --> 01:55:33,759
There's all the things that
they decided to write about.
2927
01:55:33,761 --> 01:55:36,528
There's the things that
they decided to write about
2928
01:55:36,530 --> 01:55:38,163
that you saw.
2929
01:55:38,165 --> 01:55:39,497
And it goes down and down,
2930
01:55:39,499 --> 01:55:41,333
until you're at that
individual article.
2931
01:55:41,335 --> 01:55:44,469
And so you think that when
you're reading the news,
2932
01:55:44,471 --> 01:55:46,271
that you're being informed.
2933
01:55:46,273 --> 01:55:47,539
That you're educating yourself.
2934
01:55:47,541 --> 01:55:49,507
That you're seeing
how the world is.
2935
01:55:49,509 --> 01:55:51,677
But you're seeing such a
tiny fraction of the world,
2936
01:55:51,679 --> 01:55:54,346
and so you could
argue that in a way,
2937
01:55:54,348 --> 01:55:57,049
the media is designed
not to inform you,
2938
01:55:57,051 --> 01:55:59,351
but to keep you uninformed.
2939
01:55:59,353 --> 01:56:02,454
And that's really
scary that the bubble
2940
01:56:02,456 --> 01:56:04,189
that we all live in,
2941
01:56:04,191 --> 01:56:07,492
that has no real higher
obligation anymore
2942
01:56:07,494 --> 01:56:10,896
to this sort of
philosophical idea of truth
2943
01:56:10,898 --> 01:56:12,332
is a scary thing.
2944
01:56:13,901 --> 01:56:15,837
We can't even agree
on reality anymore.
2945
01:56:28,082 --> 01:56:30,484
It's always a
question to some degree.
2946
01:56:31,418 --> 01:56:33,921
Which of our partial
realities is true,
2947
01:56:35,155 --> 01:56:36,356
and which of them is false?
2948
01:56:38,059 --> 01:56:41,927
There's a world that exists
beyond our comprehension of it,
2949
01:56:41,929 --> 01:56:43,929
and so you have to
lay a structure on it
2950
01:56:43,931 --> 01:56:45,198
in order to simplify it.
2951
01:56:46,433 --> 01:56:48,901
The role of a
journalist is to lay out
2952
01:56:48,903 --> 01:56:52,205
an unbiased simplification
of the situation,
2953
01:56:53,041 --> 01:56:55,573
and to let the viewers, readers,
2954
01:56:55,575 --> 01:56:56,778
make up their own minds.
2955
01:56:58,378 --> 01:57:02,081
But, if you introduce an act
of deception into the world,
2956
01:57:02,083 --> 01:57:05,250
it stays and it
manifests itself.
2957
01:57:05,252 --> 01:57:09,187
When you do that, you corrupt
the structure of the world,
2958
01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:10,856
and you corrupt your own soul.
2959
01:57:10,858 --> 01:57:12,192
And God help you.
2960
01:57:13,293 --> 01:57:14,927
It's not good.
2961
01:57:14,929 --> 01:57:16,561
It's seriously not good.
2962
01:57:16,563 --> 01:57:18,263
And we know this.
2963
01:57:18,265 --> 01:57:20,966
If you read who I would regard
2964
01:57:20,968 --> 01:57:23,234
as the most profound analysts
2965
01:57:23,236 --> 01:57:26,304
of the totalitarian societies
of the 20th Century,
2966
01:57:26,306 --> 01:57:28,606
they come to the
same conclusion,
2967
01:57:28,608 --> 01:57:31,877
which is that the
totalitarian states
2968
01:57:31,879 --> 01:57:33,411
would not have been
possible without
2969
01:57:33,413 --> 01:57:35,246
the moral corruption
of the individuals
2970
01:57:35,248 --> 01:57:36,450
within that society.
2971
01:57:37,617 --> 01:57:38,616
And if you think that through,
2972
01:57:38,618 --> 01:57:41,321
then it should make you
quake in your boots.
2973
01:57:43,057 --> 01:57:45,590
We have to restructure
our value systems,
2974
01:57:45,592 --> 01:57:48,094
and so that means going
back into the past.
2975
01:57:48,096 --> 01:57:50,328
If ye continue in my word,
2976
01:57:50,330 --> 01:57:54,133
then are ye my disciples indeed.
2977
01:57:54,135 --> 01:57:56,135
And ye shall know the truth,
2978
01:57:56,137 --> 01:57:59,107
and the truth shall
make you free.
2979
01:58:00,273 --> 01:58:01,439
Amen.
2980
01:58:01,441 --> 01:58:03,144
There is no search for truth.
2981
01:58:04,277 --> 01:58:05,845
The government writes
the text books,
2982
01:58:05,847 --> 01:58:08,313
and the children are
taught to accept communism
2983
01:58:08,315 --> 01:58:10,649
and their fate without question.
2984
01:58:10,651 --> 01:58:15,656
We're at a point where
Judaeo-Christian ethics can't die,
2985
01:58:17,357 --> 01:58:18,659
because if it does,
2986
01:58:19,526 --> 01:58:21,662
then our civilization is done.
2987
01:58:23,197 --> 01:58:27,467
Because it's foundation
blocks are of that ethic.
2988
01:58:28,970 --> 01:58:30,803
In the story of Genesis,
right at the beginning,
2989
01:58:30,805 --> 01:58:34,774
is the idea that the
essential creative element
2990
01:58:34,776 --> 01:58:38,612
of divinity is the logos,
the word, the truth.
2991
01:58:40,181 --> 01:58:42,047
And that consciousness
calls a world
2992
01:58:42,049 --> 01:58:44,216
into being through language.
2993
01:58:44,218 --> 01:58:48,620
That's the image of God in
man, as far as I can tell.
2994
01:58:48,622 --> 01:58:51,491
And so the words you choose
2995
01:58:52,693 --> 01:58:55,560
determine the
structure of the world
2996
01:58:55,562 --> 01:58:56,731
that you bring into being.
2997
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,200
So we better get
our acts together.
2998
01:59:01,202 --> 01:59:02,502
We need truth.
2999
01:59:03,470 --> 01:59:05,037
We need truth in media.
3000
01:59:05,039 --> 01:59:09,975
We need to open up our eyes.
3001
01:59:09,977 --> 01:59:12,044
The fundamental question
people are gonna have,
3002
01:59:12,046 --> 01:59:13,846
which I have, is how
do you know what's true
3003
01:59:13,848 --> 01:59:15,380
or what's not true?
3004
01:59:15,382 --> 01:59:19,350
I wonder sometimes
if there is a truth
3005
01:59:19,352 --> 01:59:21,189
that is accessible to us.
3006
01:59:25,358 --> 01:59:27,762
Like I don't know if we
can ever know what's truth.
3007
01:59:34,669 --> 01:59:36,367
Plato's allegory of the cave
3008
01:59:36,369 --> 01:59:38,671
is one of philosophy's
oldest stories,
3009
01:59:38,673 --> 01:59:39,674
and one of its best.
3010
01:59:40,875 --> 01:59:42,908
In the story, there are
people who have lived
3011
01:59:42,910 --> 01:59:46,444
their whole lives
chained in a cave.
3012
01:59:46,446 --> 01:59:49,114
And they're forced
to look at the wall.
3013
01:59:49,116 --> 01:59:51,684
Now behind them is a fire.
3014
01:59:51,686 --> 01:59:54,086
And in front of the
fire are various shapes.
3015
01:59:54,088 --> 01:59:56,722
People, animals, trees.
3016
01:59:56,724 --> 01:59:59,692
And they see against
the flickering
3017
01:59:59,694 --> 02:00:01,593
firelight of the cave
wall these shapes,
3018
02:00:01,595 --> 02:00:04,598
and they think that
they're looking at reality.
3019
02:00:06,033 --> 02:00:09,603
But one day, one of the
men breaks his chains,
3020
02:00:10,805 --> 02:00:12,437
and he turns his head for
the first time in his life,
3021
02:00:12,439 --> 02:00:15,074
and he looks, and
he sees the shapes,
3022
02:00:15,076 --> 02:00:18,777
and he sees the fire itself.
3023
02:00:18,779 --> 02:00:22,781
And it's startling, and
he thinks that is real.
3024
02:00:22,783 --> 02:00:23,816
Now I have seen what is real.
3025
02:00:23,818 --> 02:00:27,753
Before, I only saw the
flickering shadows.
3026
02:00:27,755 --> 02:00:29,056
Now I see what is real.
3027
02:00:30,258 --> 02:00:32,927
But then, he sees on the
far side of the fire,
3028
02:00:34,561 --> 02:00:35,796
a passageway leading out.
3029
02:00:36,831 --> 02:00:40,632
Curious, he decides
to go up the stairs.
3030
02:00:40,634 --> 02:00:42,600
And he climbs the
stairs one by one,
3031
02:00:42,602 --> 02:00:44,638
and he begins to see the light.
3032
02:00:46,439 --> 02:00:48,439
Not of the flickering shadows,
3033
02:00:48,441 --> 02:00:49,675
not of the fire,
not of the shapes,
3034
02:00:49,677 --> 02:00:53,413
but of the world itself.
3035
02:00:55,582 --> 02:00:57,116
And he sees the
world for what it is.
3036
02:00:57,118 --> 02:00:59,484
He sees the actual trees.
3037
02:00:59,486 --> 02:01:02,154
Not the shadows of trees,
not the models of trees,
3038
02:01:02,156 --> 02:01:03,155
the actual trees.
3039
02:01:03,157 --> 02:01:04,792
He sees the sky,
he sees the sun.
3040
02:01:05,826 --> 02:01:07,525
It all becomes
blindingly clear to him,
3041
02:01:07,527 --> 02:01:09,427
and he realizes that
he has spent his life
3042
02:01:09,429 --> 02:01:12,463
imprisoned into a false reality.
3043
02:01:13,668 --> 02:01:17,670
We are told by the
media what the world is.
3044
02:01:17,672 --> 02:01:19,672
We are told by the
media what is right,
3045
02:01:19,674 --> 02:01:20,940
what is wrong, what to believe,
3046
02:01:20,942 --> 02:01:22,808
who to love, who to hate.
3047
02:01:22,810 --> 02:01:26,546
These are just shadows
on the wall of the cave.
3048
02:01:28,115 --> 02:01:29,614
And then the thought
comes to his mind
3049
02:01:29,616 --> 02:01:32,117
as he regards this
beauty and he says,
3050
02:01:32,119 --> 02:01:34,454
"I must share this!"
3051
02:01:36,489 --> 02:01:38,623
With the people below,
with my friends,
3052
02:01:38,625 --> 02:01:42,695
my companions, my compatriots
chained in the cave.
3053
02:01:42,697 --> 02:01:44,562
So he takes a last look
to drink in the glory
3054
02:01:44,564 --> 02:01:46,497
of everything that he sees.
3055
02:01:46,499 --> 02:01:51,405
And then with excitement,
with joy, with anticipation,
3056
02:01:52,572 --> 02:01:54,842
he turns back down
into the cave,
3057
02:01:56,010 --> 02:02:00,245
and he starts to tell
everyone chained to the wall,
3058
02:02:00,247 --> 02:02:03,749
this is not real, this is not
real, these are illusions.
3059
02:02:03,751 --> 02:02:06,721
And he reaches down and he
tries to break their chains.
3060
02:02:07,655 --> 02:02:09,724
And they do not thank him.
3061
02:02:11,558 --> 02:02:13,659
They do not praise him, they
do not admire his wisdom
3062
02:02:13,661 --> 02:02:14,693
and his courage.
3063
02:02:14,695 --> 02:02:15,995
They fight him.
3064
02:02:15,997 --> 02:02:18,430
And they call him mad,
they call him deranged,
3065
02:02:18,432 --> 02:02:23,437
delusional, disruptive,
seditious, dangerous.
3066
02:02:27,708 --> 02:02:30,541
And he faces the choice,
3067
02:02:30,543 --> 02:02:33,247
the choice that we all face
when we learn the truth.
3068
02:02:35,182 --> 02:02:37,785
Do we stay where we are hated,
3069
02:02:39,220 --> 02:02:40,886
down in the dungeons,
3070
02:02:40,888 --> 02:02:43,722
among the enslaved, mentally.
3071
02:02:43,724 --> 02:02:47,292
Do we stay among those
fixated on their screens,
3072
02:02:47,294 --> 02:02:48,894
who will not tear
their eyes away
3073
02:02:48,896 --> 02:02:52,199
from a manufactured reality
to look at the world itself.
3074
02:02:53,768 --> 02:02:55,868
Or do we go and climb
those stairs again
3075
02:02:55,870 --> 02:02:59,271
to imbibe all the glory and
beauty of the natural world,
3076
02:02:59,273 --> 02:03:02,941
leaving behind
those who fight us
3077
02:03:02,943 --> 02:03:04,211
for bringing them the truth.
3078
02:03:05,713 --> 02:03:06,747
I say stand and fight.
3079
02:03:07,948 --> 02:03:09,214
What is the glory of the world
3080
02:03:09,216 --> 02:03:11,383
if we must drink it in solitude?
3081
02:03:11,385 --> 02:03:13,385
What is the beauty of the planet
3082
02:03:13,387 --> 02:03:15,756
if we must view it alone?
3083
02:03:17,291 --> 02:03:19,258
We have an obligation, if
we have seen the truth,
3084
02:03:19,260 --> 02:03:22,494
to wrestle the
lies from the minds
3085
02:03:22,496 --> 02:03:23,998
of those stuck in the cave.
3086
02:03:26,467 --> 02:03:29,902
The cave is the
manufactured reality
3087
02:03:29,904 --> 02:03:31,670
of those who would control us
3088
02:03:31,672 --> 02:03:33,074
by controlling what we think.
3089
02:03:34,641 --> 02:03:38,177
But fundamentally, you can't
control what someone thinks.
3090
02:03:38,179 --> 02:03:42,649
Because once they think,
they are beyond your control.
3091
02:03:51,661 --> 02:03:55,160
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