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♪ ♪
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PERSON:
Everybody set?
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Action!
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- There was a reference
to Baywatch
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in almost everything
that was a hit.
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- Run, Yasmine!
Run like the wind!
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- ♪ I'll be ready ♪
- ♪ Oh, I'll be ready ♪
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- Every year, we bring in new
people and exit other people.
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- Jason Momoa is the one that
exploded off of Baywatch.
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MATTHEW: That's something
the creators really had--
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the knack of finding stars.
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- It was a wild time,
and I was a wild chick.
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What are you going to do
about the bad writing?
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[laughter]
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- I'm just going to do
what I'm going to do.
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And I want chicks,
and I want fame.
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MATTHEW: We went
from admiring these people
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to, let's take you down.
[crowd cheering]
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CARMEN: When people
are talking about you,
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it destroyed
a lot of people.
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MATTHEW: And Jason says
they literally hunted him
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like an animal,
trying to out him.
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- He's one of my closest
friends on the show.
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So it was a secret
that we kept.
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- I had so much anxiety
that she would have to take me
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to therapy twice a week.
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- This show was not designed
for someone who looks like me.
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Primarily, it wasn't.
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- I kept asking the producers
to please give me
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a boyfriend who is of color.
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GREGORY:
I was a sidekick.
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Man, the sidekick
can't be sexy.
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Sidekick got to be a clown.
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And my beauty was
not celebrated.
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- We made so many mistakes
back then in the '90s.
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NICOLE:
I wasn't ready for that show.
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What happened to her,
you know?
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Well, life.
[laughs] Life happened.
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And I bet life happened
to you, too.
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- I'm really proud
of everything I've done--
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almost.
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[laughs]
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[mellow music]
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♪ ♪
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- Going through puberty
on Baywatch was painful.
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I was too young to hook up
with the chicks
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but old enough to want to.
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- There was, like, a slew
of bikini-clad girls.
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And even though
he was, you know,
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13, 14 years old,
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they were already trying
to make eyes at him
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and do things--
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Like, I really tried to keep
him away from all of that
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the best I could.
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- And they would
definitely tease me,
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like, give me a little
booby shot or whatever.
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But I was too young
to, like, really
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hook up with any of them.
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And, you know, like I said,
I just wanted to be grown-up.
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And I was like, ugh!
Just hang in there.
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- He had to sit back and
kind of watch the rest of us
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for quite a bit, which is
probably brutally tough,
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because we just had a blast.
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JEREMY: I mean, if you're
a kid in life, right,
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you just, like,
want to be cool.
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You want to hang out
with the cool people.
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You want to be grown-up way
before you're grown-up, right?
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And that's how
Baywatch was for me.
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There was all these hot
chicks, and I would usually
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sneak in their trailers after
they were done
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and grab
their dirty bathing suits.
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Let's just say I've smelled
every [bleep] on Baywatch.
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[laughing]
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And Nicole was
the big one, for sure.
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We had a very intimate
moment, her and I,
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that she never knew about.
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- Well...
[chuckles]
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I know Jeremy very well.
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This surprises me not at all.
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JEREMY: And Nicole was
the one that,
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I guess you could say,
I looked up to.
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She would come to work late
and not give a fuck
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and say that out loud.
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Like, I don't give a fuck.
I'd be like, what?
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- There's nothing Jeremy could
say that would freak me out.
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And I'm not even mad
at 14-year-old Jeremy.
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I mean, puberty
on a show like that.
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I love grown-up Jeremy
for being honest
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about 14-year-old Jeremy.
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- Arch your back.
Come on.
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MATTHEW: Being a kid
around all adults,
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it has to have
a negative effect.
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We've seen
this child-star narrative
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since the beginning of time.
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There's always issues.
There's always problems.
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DAVID: Baywatch was kind of
like, no matter what happened
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in your personal life, and
there was some heavy stuff
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that happened to Jeremy.
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I said, I don't care.
Come here. Give me a hug.
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It was awesome.
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From probably 10 to 14,
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I was just hoping that he
would fall in love with my mom
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and be my dad, you know.
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And I was probably
doing everything I could
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to try to make that happen.
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Now, looking back,
I'm like, I'm 39 now.
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David must have been 30
when I started, you know?
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And I'm like, hey, David,
we got to go surfing.
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Hey, David, can you take me
for a ride in your car?
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Hey, David.
Hey, David. Hey, David.
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- It was really kind of like
a father-son relationship.
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I was never the father
that I should have been,
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that I could have been.
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And I regret that
a little bit,
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because I could have been
there a little bit more.
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But I was too busy, too busy
being David Hasselhoff.
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I had my own set of problems.
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I had enough going on
in my own life, being a father
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and going through a marriage
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that was not the best
in the world.
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It was just a real weird time.
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I was 16 years old.
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David surprised me with
this cake and this huge box.
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In the box was a smaller box
and then a smaller box
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and then a smaller box
and then a smaller box.
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After I opened all the boxes,
in the box
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was this key right here.
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It says, "Happy 16th."
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Then they pulled up this
phenomenal, outrageous,
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amazing sports car.
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That is the actual car--
Volkswagen Riot.
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It's a kit car.
It's a $14,000 car.
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But I never got the sports car.
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And I haven't let it go.
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And I refuse to let it go.
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David, you still owe me
a frickin' car, okay?
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[laughter]
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- Even today, 30 years later,
Jeremy, obviously much,
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much older,
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is still in touch with David,
and they still have talks.
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When things go wrong
in Jeremy's life
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and he needs
someone to talk to,
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he goes and talks to David
just like he did
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talking to Mitch on the show.
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Looking back today,
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he's still kind of a mythical
figure, even after working
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with him for so long.
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- David would just, you know,
tour Germany at the same time
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as shooting Baywatch.
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And I think Jeremy may have
gone with him one time.
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I know that Jeremy wanted
to be just like David.
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He wanted to be a singer.
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He wanted to be
a rock-and-roll star.
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And I think David
encouraged him.
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And so did we.
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- And I'm going to
slide on my knees,
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and then I'm going to run down
there and slide on my knees.
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All right?
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BERK:
He became a heartthrob.
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- Jeremy Jackson
had a pop career.
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He had two hits.
One of them was "French Kiss."
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The other was "You Can Run."
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- ♪ You can run, you can hide,
you can cheat, you can lie ♪
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♪ But you can't
run away from me ♪
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♪ No matter what the mission,
no matter what the time ♪
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♪ That's how it's going to be ♪
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- But you needed
a machine behind you.
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You needed the machine
that gave us Britney Spears
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and NSYNC and Backstreet Boys.
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He didn't have a machine.
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He just wanted to be
a pop star
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like David Hasselhoff.
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JEREMY: I ended up touring
all over the world with David
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and performing and
doing two albums.
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And I wanted that so bad.
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And I envisioned it.
And I manifested it.
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It happened.
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So I was on Baywatch.
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We'd go on tours.
I'd be in Europe.
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And I'd get to the
place in the car.
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And I'd think, oh, my gosh.
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Like, all these screaming fans
are there for other people.
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And it turns out they
were there for me.
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I had to get 20 security
guards hand in hand
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over the door of the car
so I could get out of the car.
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And they're, like,
rocking the car, weeping.
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I saw girls passing out.
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I saw girls being carried away
by security guards.
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I saw girls taking
their clothes off,
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screaming, weeping.
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And that was, like,
the coolest thing ever.
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I was always...
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wanting to be a troublemaker,
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smoking cigarettes,
drinking beer,
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you know, sneaking out
at night,
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getting into trouble.
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- I was in the way
of everything
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he wanted to do at that point.
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So that got pretty nasty.
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JEREMY: So now was my
opportunity
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to get whatever I wanted,
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and I just took
full advantage of that.
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I just started wielding
my power over my mom.
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I'm just going to do
what I'm going to do,
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and I want chicks,
and I want fame.
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It was gnarly.
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Every extreme that can
take place took place.
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So those were the heights
that, you know,
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once you hit that
and they're gone,
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you got to re-create them
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because that's
what's normal for you.
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That's what's
comfortable for you.
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MATTHEW: So Jeremy was,
you know, introduced to drugs
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before most kids
are introduced to drugs.
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He's introduced to sex
and pornography
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and all these things way
earlier than normal kids are.
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- He ended up
having a girlfriend
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that was an extra on Baywatch.
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- I was passionately in love
with a girl when I was 17.
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And I gave up everything
basically for her.
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I turned down movie deals
and quit the show.
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And I just made my every
waking moment about her
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and building a life with her.
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And she was a drug addict,
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and I jumped right down
the rabbit hole with her.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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- Last night was
the black-tie event, the gala.
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And there's just,
like, this abundance
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of, like, amazing-looking guys
in this country.
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I don't know if it's
because of the race
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or it's always like this,
but they're hot.
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[chuckles] So, of course,
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we had our room full
of them last night
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and...
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it made for an interesting,
interesting evening.
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But my room is wrecked.
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I woke up in my dress
and the door open.
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Look.
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Candy bars that I, like, stole.
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[chuckles]
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Heineken over there
under the curtain--I see it.
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We'll try to catch up
with some of those guys later.
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Make for some
interesting video.
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[laughs]
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I was born in Los Angeles, so
I spent a lot of my childhood
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on the beach.
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And Baywatch really,
really captured,
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like, my childhood, too.
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I was, like, the little girl
who dressed up as a princess
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but never brushed her hair
and climbed trees.
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That's who I was as a kid.
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And my mother entered me
in this local beauty pageant
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and I won.
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And casting director
and an agent called.
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And I immediately started
getting auditions.
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I was an actress
since I was four years old.
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I was the Coppertone kid,
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Johnson's & Johnson's
Baby Shampoo.
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My first acting gig was
an ABC Movie of the Week
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called When She Was Bad.
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It was about child abuse.
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And from that, I booked
Charles in Charge
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as a series regular.
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- You know, you have
a major ego problem.
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You think Alex is helping me
because she's in love with you?
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You're the one who's obsessed.
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God, you just won't be happy
until you destroy my life!
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That's not true, Jamie.
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NICOLE:
And then I got to Baywatch.
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BERK: That season we cast
Pam and David Charvet,
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we also cast Nicole Eggert
as Summer.
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- Look, CJ, for the last time,
I do not have
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an eating disorder, okay?
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- Well, Nicole Eggert coming
on to Baywatch is a huge star.
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She's from Charles in Charge.
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She's on every young
adolescent's wall.
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CHRIS: She takes that
unbelievably sexy photograph
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for the Sugar Ray
record, you know,
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that's one of those pictures
that people
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remember from the 1990s.
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Everybody knew who it
was in that picture.
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So whatever she
was on Baywatch,
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she was like an icon
of a certain type of sexuality
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already in the mid '90s.
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NICOLE:
I was 19, 20 years old.
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I was much younger than
the rest of the cast.
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When you're 19, 20 years old,
like, I didn't have to try.
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I didn't work out.
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You know, it just
was, like, natural.
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And I show up on set,
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and they've got
this red bathing suit.
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And I've never worked out
a day in my life.
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I, like, smoked cigarettes.
You know, I was a mess.
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And I panicked.
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I couldn't believe that that's
what I was going to be doing,
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you know.
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I didn't realize that
I was, like, considered
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any kind of sex-symbol thing.
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That hadn't occurred
to me at all.
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I just focused
on what I was doing
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and what I was looking at.
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And I had blinders on
to the rest of the world
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because I hated the attention.
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Like, I hated it.
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Stop it.
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It made me so insecure
and just so uncomfortable.
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It felt like such
an invasion of privacy.
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And I didn't deal
with it well at all.
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So I made the decision,
you know, to chop my hair off.
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I think almost every producer
went into cardiac arrest
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when I showed up on set with
with the short hair.
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And I was like,
no, trust me, guys.
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It's cool.
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When I look back at it now,
it's like, wow.
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You know, that's so cool.
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But my instinct was flight.
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And I said, I need to
get away from this.
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So I quit after
the first season.
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I wasn't ready for that show.
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- And I think that women
have always been objectified.
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So, you know--
especially modeling.
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- People are always going
to be drawn to beauty.
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That's not going to change.
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MATTHEW:
Everything was about the body
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in the '90s, everything.
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KELLEY: And that was
definitely the decade
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of supermodels.
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♪ ♪
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- You really started seeing the
evolution of the supermodel,
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I think, in the '90s.
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"Freedom! '90" is one
of George Michael's
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most iconic music videos,
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primarily because he had all
of the hottest supermodels
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of the '90s in it.
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- When you make
a living on camera,
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visually, there's expectations.
340
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- It really starts with women
having this impossible
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social contract in which our
main value somehow
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appears to be being pretty.
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NICOLE: I was considered
curvy back then,
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and there wasn't anything
I could do about it.
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I just had a behind on me.
346
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And everybody else was these,
like, teeny, tiny,
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skinny things.
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There was a clause
of, you couldn't gain,
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couldn't lose five pounds.
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You had to stay
within your weight.
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The '90s was about beauty.
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And beauty doesn't
need a résumé.
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Baywatch actors talked
about strict diet rules
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on "E! True Hollywood Story."
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We're not allowed to get fat.
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That's what says
in my contract.
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So, of course, they have
fat-free Fig Newtons.
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[laughs]
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That's what we eat.
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That's how we keep
the Baywatch figures.
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Yeah, as vegetarians.
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Sucking on a baloney.
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You know, we had to stay fit.
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We couldn't really get
cellulite because that's
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going to show on camera.
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So it's a lot of pressure.
It was a lot of pressure.
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- You're going up
for a leading role,
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there are certain expectations
about the way you have to look,
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and that is it,
and that goes today.
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PAULINA: Like,
the responsibility of beauty
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is to stay that forever.
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But unless you die at 25,
that's not going to happen.
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NICOLE: To put me next
to 20-year-old me,
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not only do I not want to be
that person or look like that,
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it just is just ignorant.
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00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:08,217
What happened to her, you know?
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00:16:08,217 --> 00:16:10,136
Well, life.
[chuckles]
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00:16:10,136 --> 00:16:11,554
Life happened.
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And I bet life happened
to you, too, you know.
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I'm sure that
Baywatch definitely had
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an influence in girls
wanting bigger lips,
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bigger boobs, smaller waist.
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00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:26,068
When I was 20,
I modified my body,
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00:16:26,068 --> 00:16:29,488
and I put implants in my body.
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00:16:29,488 --> 00:16:31,699
- Plastic surgery
was just coming in.
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I remember once when I went
back to my high-school reunion,
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00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:37,663
and one of my classmates
asked me,
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00:16:37,663 --> 00:16:39,916
is Pamela Anderson's--are
those breasts real?
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00:16:39,916 --> 00:16:41,959
- The whole look
was huge boobs.
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00:16:41,959 --> 00:16:43,419
Like, the bigger, the better.
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I mean, everyone
was getting, like,
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00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:46,214
all kinds of things
done to their bodies
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to look like Pamela.
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That was the key to succeed
on a show such as Baywatch.
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MATTHEW: I mean, Greg,
Michael, and Doug
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00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,683
figured out...
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that people like to see fake
boobs on TV
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00:17:00,436 --> 00:17:03,314
before the rest of the world--
it's really that simple.
399
00:17:03,314 --> 00:17:07,318
This is the suits being
sneaky and throwing in,
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00:17:07,318 --> 00:17:11,072
you know, very, you know,
low-key sexualization
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00:17:11,072 --> 00:17:13,950
into these family programs.
402
00:17:21,082 --> 00:17:24,961
[upbeat music]
403
00:17:24,961 --> 00:17:28,089
[people shouting]
404
00:17:28,089 --> 00:17:31,133
It was pandemonium.
405
00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:35,805
[crowd cheering, shouting]
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00:17:35,805 --> 00:17:38,808
We did signings.
We did every morning show.
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00:17:38,808 --> 00:17:41,143
And I was like, oh, my God.
This is insane.
408
00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:42,770
- Those men and women
who produced that show
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00:17:42,770 --> 00:17:43,771
did their job.
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00:17:43,771 --> 00:17:45,314
It was an international hit.
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DOUGLAS:
By 1993,
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we had 158 countries
that were airing Baywatch
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in 42 different languages
on every continent,
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00:17:53,447 --> 00:17:54,949
except Antarctica.
415
00:17:54,949 --> 00:17:57,994
- There were villages that
would fire up a generator just
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00:17:57,994 --> 00:18:00,413
to watch the show.
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REPORTER: Here at the edge
of the Brazilian jungle,
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00:18:02,873 --> 00:18:04,959
yes, folks, it's Baywatch.
419
00:18:04,959 --> 00:18:07,753
[upbeat music plays]
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00:18:07,753 --> 00:18:09,672
- They ended up being
the most watched
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00:18:09,672 --> 00:18:14,302
television show in the world,
with over a billion viewers.
422
00:18:14,302 --> 00:18:17,430
- It communicated globally
because you can dub it.
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00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,390
You can put it in
other languages,
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00:18:19,390 --> 00:18:21,350
and it's still beautiful.
425
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:25,021
It's still entertaining.
It's the California Dream.
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00:18:25,021 --> 00:18:27,481
♪ ♪
427
00:18:27,481 --> 00:18:28,774
That's cute.
428
00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:30,610
You girls in front,
you look great.
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00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:35,239
♪ ♪
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TRACI: Everyone tuned in
to watch the show
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because you knew you were
going to see someone sexy.
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00:18:38,868 --> 00:18:41,996
It wasn't just a sexy female.
It was a sexy male.
433
00:18:41,996 --> 00:18:43,289
And it was fun to watch.
434
00:18:43,289 --> 00:18:45,207
Everyone likes
to watch sexy things.
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DOUGLAS: Every year
we'd bring in new people
436
00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:47,793
and exit other people.
437
00:18:47,793 --> 00:18:49,045
It was definitely something
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00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:50,796
that I dreamed
and aspired to do.
439
00:18:50,796 --> 00:18:52,798
Once I saw the show,
I was like,
440
00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:54,425
how can I get on that beach?
441
00:18:54,425 --> 00:18:57,845
- Baywatch was a show
that was not character driven.
442
00:18:57,845 --> 00:19:02,767
We were as interchangeable
as socks.
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00:19:02,767 --> 00:19:04,852
PERSON:
And then there were three--
444
00:19:04,852 --> 00:19:08,522
24-year-old Stacy Kamano,
19-year-old Jason Momoa,
445
00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:11,025
and 26-year-old Kala'i Miller
are officially
446
00:19:11,025 --> 00:19:13,027
cast members
of Baywatch: Hawaii.
447
00:19:13,027 --> 00:19:16,614
- I went to Hawaii
to do an open call.
448
00:19:16,614 --> 00:19:18,908
And there were thousands.
449
00:19:18,908 --> 00:19:20,618
It was lines out the door.
450
00:19:20,618 --> 00:19:24,246
And the minute Jason
walked in...
451
00:19:24,246 --> 00:19:26,499
it was like,
okay, we've got our guy.
452
00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:28,793
He just was a perfect
Baywatch lifeguard.
453
00:19:28,793 --> 00:19:31,462
And we hired him right away.
454
00:19:31,462 --> 00:19:33,881
- He was 6'5"
and great physique,
455
00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:36,342
was a terrific natural actor.
456
00:19:36,342 --> 00:19:38,135
JEREMY:
Jason Momoa was--
457
00:19:38,135 --> 00:19:40,513
God, what was he, 21 probably
back then.
458
00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:42,139
Everybody loved him.
459
00:19:42,139 --> 00:19:44,642
He was like a total
maniac but smiling and kind
460
00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:48,270
the whole time but just
running around carefree.
461
00:19:48,270 --> 00:19:49,939
Gosh, he was so young
back then.
462
00:19:49,939 --> 00:19:54,610
So no beard but still an
anomaly, like a rare specimen,
463
00:19:54,610 --> 00:19:56,946
even back then, you know.
464
00:19:56,946 --> 00:19:58,906
- And that's something
that creators really had.
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00:19:58,906 --> 00:20:01,617
They had a knack
of finding stars.
466
00:20:01,617 --> 00:20:04,870
GENA:
Jason Momoa, he is the--
467
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:07,915
the one that exploded
off of Baywatch.
468
00:20:07,915 --> 00:20:10,835
He was just drop-dead gorgeous.
469
00:20:10,835 --> 00:20:12,044
And he was just a kid.
470
00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:15,506
And he was so nervous,
very raw,
471
00:20:15,506 --> 00:20:18,008
very quiet, very shy,
472
00:20:18,008 --> 00:20:21,178
and just sweet,
really, really sweet.
473
00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:24,932
He's the biggest star today,
474
00:20:24,932 --> 00:20:28,686
- I think Baywatch, they gave
us a lot of gifts.
475
00:20:28,686 --> 00:20:32,481
They gave us a lot of beauty,
a lot of sex.
476
00:20:32,481 --> 00:20:35,943
- It was a wild time,
and I was a wild chick.
477
00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:40,656
Yes, I was the girl dancing
on tables, having a good time.
478
00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:42,324
I was the number-one bad girl,
479
00:20:42,324 --> 00:20:44,326
and Courtney Love
was number two.
480
00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:47,371
And I thought, holy shit,
that's insane.
481
00:20:47,371 --> 00:20:51,584
- Carmen Electra was
perfect on so many levels
482
00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:53,127
for the '90s and for Baywatch.
483
00:20:53,127 --> 00:20:54,754
I mean, she was a musician.
484
00:20:54,754 --> 00:20:59,550
She was a dancer but also
super sexy on top of it.
485
00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:01,427
CARMEN: I grew up in
Cincinnati, Ohio,
486
00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:02,845
in the Midwest.
487
00:21:02,845 --> 00:21:05,931
I started dancing at
five years old, and I went
488
00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:08,225
to the School for Creative
and Performing Arts at nine.
489
00:21:08,225 --> 00:21:11,020
Studied classical ballet.
490
00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:13,731
I'm at heart a performer.
491
00:21:13,731 --> 00:21:15,232
That's who I am.
492
00:21:15,232 --> 00:21:17,485
I love to entertain.
493
00:21:17,485 --> 00:21:19,570
- Carmen!
[people shouting]
494
00:21:19,570 --> 00:21:23,115
- I auditioned for a band that
Prince was putting together.
495
00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:28,579
- Prince was obviously the
most respected creator sort
496
00:21:28,579 --> 00:21:30,706
of in the world of music
imaginable,
497
00:21:30,706 --> 00:21:32,541
and he would create
these entire worlds.
498
00:21:32,541 --> 00:21:34,960
And he could sort of
pluck you out of nowhere
499
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,630
and kind of turn
you into a star.
500
00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,173
It was insane.
501
00:21:39,173 --> 00:21:41,717
I couldn't even believe it.
I had to pinch myself.
502
00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:45,471
Like, he really guided me
and taught me a lot.
503
00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:48,182
I was born Tara Leigh Patrick.
504
00:21:48,182 --> 00:21:50,810
And I remember
him saying to me,
505
00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:53,395
you do not look like a Tara.
506
00:21:53,395 --> 00:21:57,233
And once he gave me that
name, Carmen Electra,
507
00:21:57,233 --> 00:21:59,985
it was like I had this
different persona.
508
00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:03,239
- So on videos produced by his
Paisley Park record label,
509
00:22:03,239 --> 00:22:05,616
Prince promoted Carmen Electra.
510
00:22:05,616 --> 00:22:07,243
- ♪ Is it art, or is it just
a display of flesh? ♪
511
00:22:07,243 --> 00:22:09,453
♪ Contained, slangin',
and bangin' to a bass drum ♪
512
00:22:09,453 --> 00:22:12,039
♪ Silhouetted by lights,
caught up in the hype ♪
513
00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:13,749
♪ I'm doing my own thing
night after night ♪
514
00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:16,293
SINGER:
♪ Go, go, dancer ♪
515
00:22:16,293 --> 00:22:20,965
- And it gave me the confidence
to push myself to get
516
00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:23,384
out there and try new things.
517
00:22:23,384 --> 00:22:25,719
I remember having this thought
518
00:22:25,719 --> 00:22:28,764
that I wanted to be
my own boss.
519
00:22:32,142 --> 00:22:35,062
That's when I decided
to take a chance
520
00:22:35,062 --> 00:22:38,566
in LA and be on my own.
521
00:22:38,566 --> 00:22:42,695
It was really hard.
I ended up being homeless.
522
00:22:42,695 --> 00:22:44,697
I was sleeping on couches.
523
00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:48,576
But I know
that struggling in LA
524
00:22:48,576 --> 00:22:50,661
and going through
those hard times
525
00:22:50,661 --> 00:22:52,830
is what gave me the drive.
526
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:54,582
- I can't hold them
in much longer,
527
00:22:54,582 --> 00:22:57,167
so you better bring out
that man!
528
00:22:57,167 --> 00:22:59,670
CHRIS: She eventually replaced
Jenny McCarthy
529
00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:01,255
on Singled Out on MTV
530
00:23:01,255 --> 00:23:03,465
and became
a real sort of personality
531
00:23:03,465 --> 00:23:05,259
in that mold from there.
532
00:23:05,259 --> 00:23:07,344
- Hi, I'm Carmen Electra,
and I'm standing here
533
00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:09,263
with a hundred sea serpents,
534
00:23:09,263 --> 00:23:12,558
and they're slithering
around just to find a date.
535
00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:14,560
[crowd cheering]
536
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,146
MATTHEW: MTV was the barometer
that you would check in
537
00:23:17,146 --> 00:23:18,647
of all things cool.
538
00:23:18,647 --> 00:23:20,316
If it was on MTV, it was cool.
539
00:23:20,316 --> 00:23:22,276
What are they wearing?
Who's the hot person?
540
00:23:22,276 --> 00:23:23,652
That's who you're
going to be attracted to
541
00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:25,571
because that's the prototype,
because MTV says so.
542
00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:28,365
- And because, clearly,
the producers of Baywatch
543
00:23:28,365 --> 00:23:30,784
are watching all things MTV,
544
00:23:30,784 --> 00:23:34,371
they are like, we got to get
Carmen Electra on our show.
545
00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:35,664
PERSON:
Carmen, that's good.
546
00:23:35,664 --> 00:23:37,333
If you scoot a little bit
that way or just--
547
00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:39,251
MATTHEW: Baywatch was stealing
other audiences
548
00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:40,711
to bring to their audience.
549
00:23:40,711 --> 00:23:43,047
She looks the part.
She's fun, she's cool.
550
00:23:43,047 --> 00:23:44,256
We like her.
551
00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:46,425
Let's bring her
and her MTV audience.
552
00:23:46,425 --> 00:23:48,260
- My agents called
and said, Baywatch wants you
553
00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:49,637
to come in and audition.
554
00:23:49,637 --> 00:23:51,180
I auditioned with Hasselhoff.
555
00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:52,848
He was right there
in front of me.
556
00:23:52,848 --> 00:23:53,974
I was so nervous.
557
00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:56,727
- Get out of there, Mike.
I'll kill you.
558
00:23:56,727 --> 00:23:58,729
CARMEN: I knew Baywatch was
the number-one show
559
00:23:58,729 --> 00:24:00,147
in the world,
560
00:24:00,147 --> 00:24:03,525
and that was going to take me
to a different level
561
00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:07,071
in the career I already had.
562
00:24:07,071 --> 00:24:09,615
I remember getting
that call in my car.
563
00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:11,283
"You got the job."
564
00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:13,744
And I just turned
the music up so loud,
565
00:24:13,744 --> 00:24:15,537
and I was driving
in Hollywood.
566
00:24:15,537 --> 00:24:18,374
And I just felt like
I was on top of the world.
567
00:24:18,374 --> 00:24:21,335
[upbeat rock music]
568
00:24:21,335 --> 00:24:23,796
♪ ♪
569
00:24:23,796 --> 00:24:27,508
So many girls wanted
to be a Baywatch babe,
570
00:24:27,508 --> 00:24:30,719
and there's just
a little handful of us,
571
00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:33,305
and that is so fucking dope.
572
00:24:33,305 --> 00:24:36,392
I love it.
I'm proud. I'm proud of that.
573
00:24:36,392 --> 00:24:39,728
Fuck, yeah, I'm a Baywatch
bitch, and I love it.
574
00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:46,902
[upbeat music]
575
00:24:46,902 --> 00:24:53,283
♪ ♪
576
00:24:53,283 --> 00:24:54,576
JAASON:
That's headquarters.
577
00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:56,578
That's where we
shot right there.
578
00:24:56,578 --> 00:24:57,996
Hello.
579
00:24:57,996 --> 00:25:00,332
Good to see you.
580
00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:02,668
I was at the beach most days.
581
00:25:02,668 --> 00:25:04,753
You would drive up to set
in the morning,
582
00:25:04,753 --> 00:25:07,965
and there would be, like,
50 or 60 people outside
583
00:25:07,965 --> 00:25:10,467
with cameras already
outside the parking lot.
584
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:11,885
- Okay, folks, we got to move
some equipment.
585
00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:13,762
So I got to ask everybody
to move this way.
586
00:25:13,762 --> 00:25:15,222
- Back up, please.
Back up.
587
00:25:15,222 --> 00:25:16,390
I'm Jaason Simmons.
588
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:18,726
I played Logan Fowler
on Baywatch.
589
00:25:18,726 --> 00:25:21,645
- Are you as empowered a woman
as you are a lifeguard?
590
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,481
- Empowered enough to boot your
little butt back Down Under.
591
00:25:24,481 --> 00:25:27,276
- I'd wager you're not.
- Not what?
592
00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:31,030
- Not as tough to get
along with...
593
00:25:31,030 --> 00:25:32,573
out of uniform.
594
00:25:32,573 --> 00:25:34,616
[smooches]
595
00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:37,995
♪ ♪
596
00:25:37,995 --> 00:25:40,497
JAASON:
Growing up in Tasmania,
597
00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:43,333
it's one of the most beautiful
places on the planet.
598
00:25:43,333 --> 00:25:46,420
I arrived in LA when I was 20.
599
00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:49,298
Came here, one-way ticket,
no money to call anybody,
600
00:25:49,298 --> 00:25:50,924
didn't know anybody.
601
00:25:50,924 --> 00:25:53,427
BERK: We always wanted this
bad-boy Australian character.
602
00:25:53,427 --> 00:25:55,345
So there was a guy
named Jacko who
603
00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:57,014
was doing battery commercials.
604
00:25:57,014 --> 00:25:59,641
- In one of these
and in one of these.
605
00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:02,436
BERK: You know, it was right
around when Crocodile Dundee
606
00:26:02,436 --> 00:26:03,812
was coming out.
607
00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:06,857
So Jaason Simmons came in.
He was terrific.
608
00:26:06,857 --> 00:26:08,692
He had that accent.
609
00:26:08,692 --> 00:26:11,028
He was great-looking.
He had the hair.
610
00:26:11,028 --> 00:26:13,864
And we kind of were developing
the character around him.
611
00:26:13,864 --> 00:26:15,657
MITCH: This year
our Rookie of the Year Award
612
00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:19,328
goes to our exchange lifeguard
from Australia,
613
00:26:19,328 --> 00:26:21,288
Logan Fowler.
614
00:26:21,288 --> 00:26:23,624
[cheers and applause]
615
00:26:23,624 --> 00:26:25,626
- He played the bad boy.
He was always seducing.
616
00:26:25,626 --> 00:26:27,169
His character was
always seducing women.
617
00:26:27,169 --> 00:26:28,670
And he did it so well.
618
00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,380
Are you his GF?
619
00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:32,341
- What?
- His girlfriend?
620
00:26:32,341 --> 00:26:33,967
- [scoffs]
Matt and I are just friends.
621
00:26:33,967 --> 00:26:36,053
- I've only been here
three days from Tasmania.
622
00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:39,681
Just trying to figure out how
all the pieces fit together.
623
00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:41,975
MATTHEW: So Jaason Simmons
was brought onto the show
624
00:26:41,975 --> 00:26:44,520
to be this sort of, like,
womanizing lifeguard.
625
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,106
But the irony of Jaason
was he was pretty much
626
00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:51,735
an openly gay man in his,
you know, private life.
627
00:26:51,735 --> 00:26:54,321
So, because of the stigma,
628
00:26:54,321 --> 00:26:56,657
it was a huge thing
to try to out actors
629
00:26:56,657 --> 00:26:58,867
or musicians that were gay.
630
00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:01,912
It was like a sport
for paparazzi.
631
00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:11,296
- When people are talking about
you, it can take you down,
632
00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:14,508
and it destroyed a lot
of people inside.
633
00:27:14,508 --> 00:27:18,595
So it does take a very strong
person to make it through.
634
00:27:18,595 --> 00:27:21,140
- The obsession
with celebrity had changed.
635
00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:24,268
We went from admiring
these people
636
00:27:24,268 --> 00:27:26,311
to, let's take you down.
637
00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:35,863
[person chuckles]
638
00:27:35,863 --> 00:27:37,739
MATTHEW: People that knew
Jaason would try
639
00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:40,409
to sell stories to the press
that he was really a gay man.
640
00:27:40,409 --> 00:27:43,203
He's not this womanizing
hunk on Baywatch.
641
00:27:43,203 --> 00:27:45,372
And Jaason even says
they literally hunted him
642
00:27:45,372 --> 00:27:47,958
like an animal,
trying to out him.
643
00:27:52,254 --> 00:27:55,340
PERSON:
Kiss, kiss.
644
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:59,094
MATTHEW: It was anything
to show him in a relationship
645
00:27:59,094 --> 00:28:00,804
kissing his boyfriend.
646
00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:03,348
You sell one of those
pictures, and you can make
647
00:28:03,348 --> 00:28:06,476
hundreds of thousands
of dollars with one photo.
648
00:28:06,476 --> 00:28:09,354
- It was very
difficult for him.
649
00:28:09,354 --> 00:28:11,398
[dramatic music]
650
00:28:11,398 --> 00:28:14,443
[clears throat]
651
00:28:14,443 --> 00:28:17,988
He's one of my closest
friends on the show, and...
652
00:28:17,988 --> 00:28:20,407
So it was a secret
that we kept.
653
00:28:20,407 --> 00:28:23,452
It was so dangerous for a man
to come out,
654
00:28:23,452 --> 00:28:27,247
especially when you're
a handsome leading man,
655
00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:31,627
because producers
wouldn't hire you
656
00:28:31,627 --> 00:28:34,588
as a hetero guy, getting girls,
657
00:28:34,588 --> 00:28:37,466
and that was the character
he was playing.
658
00:28:37,466 --> 00:28:41,386
DAVID: If they found out
that he was gay at the time,
659
00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,932
you know, it could have
blown up the show.
660
00:28:44,932 --> 00:28:46,642
PERSON:
Can we have a word?
661
00:28:46,642 --> 00:28:49,144
Just a simple little outfit,
this thing here.
662
00:28:49,144 --> 00:28:50,562
Yes, it is.
663
00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:52,230
PERSON:
Alexandra Paul knew,
664
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:56,443
and they pretended to be
boyfriend and girlfriend.
665
00:28:56,443 --> 00:28:58,445
ALEXANDRA: There are pictures
in the National Enquirer
666
00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:00,238
of him and I holding hands
and kissing
667
00:29:00,238 --> 00:29:01,823
because he needed a beard.
668
00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:04,660
We did a photo shoot
of both of us naked
669
00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:07,829
that appeared on the cover
of a British newspaper.
670
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:11,583
We wanted to make sure
he was protected.
671
00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:15,003
That's what he had to do then.
672
00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:19,216
- I had so much anxiety
that she would have to take me
673
00:29:19,216 --> 00:29:22,010
to therapy twice a week
when I was on the first season,
674
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:25,806
just to get through everything
that wasn't acting.
675
00:29:25,806 --> 00:29:29,142
So our relationship
became very strong.
676
00:29:29,142 --> 00:29:30,894
PERSON:
Jaason Simmons. Aah!
677
00:29:30,894 --> 00:29:33,689
DAVID: At moments,
he really enjoyed the fame
678
00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:36,483
because the show was just
exploding at the time.
679
00:29:36,483 --> 00:29:38,610
PERSON: I'm selling
this to Hard Copy.
680
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:40,445
Quick, smooch.
681
00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:44,241
DAVID: And Jaason, you know,
he's awkward a little bit,
682
00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:46,660
especially around a bunch
of strangers.
683
00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:51,289
And there's times where
I think he just felt like,
684
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:54,126
what the fuck am I doing here?
685
00:29:54,126 --> 00:29:57,546
I don't belong here.
This isn't who I am.
686
00:29:57,546 --> 00:29:58,922
- So you've got all
these straight people
687
00:29:58,922 --> 00:30:01,508
doing dirty things in ads
with Calvin Klein.
688
00:30:01,508 --> 00:30:04,428
You've got all these straight
people posing for Playboy.
689
00:30:04,428 --> 00:30:06,847
But if you're gay,
you can't be on television
690
00:30:06,847 --> 00:30:08,473
without getting sneaky.
691
00:30:09,975 --> 00:30:12,686
- You can't judge an actor
on their sexuality.
692
00:30:12,686 --> 00:30:14,312
They can be leading men.
693
00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:16,606
Being gay doesn't make
you less masculine.
694
00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:18,692
I just wanted to
show that gay people
695
00:30:18,692 --> 00:30:20,110
can play straight characters.
696
00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:22,112
Love is love,
and acting is acting.
697
00:30:22,112 --> 00:30:25,782
- This new generation
of young people don't care,
698
00:30:25,782 --> 00:30:27,284
and I love that.
699
00:30:27,284 --> 00:30:30,829
And I wish that that had been
the case in the 1990s
700
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:34,124
because it would have...
[clears throat]
701
00:30:34,124 --> 00:30:36,877
Been so much less painful...
702
00:30:36,877 --> 00:30:40,547
[clears throat]
For Jaason.
703
00:30:46,595 --> 00:30:49,598
[upbeat music]
704
00:30:49,598 --> 00:30:53,351
♪ ♪
705
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:55,395
- Hollywood since
the beginning of time
706
00:30:55,395 --> 00:30:57,439
is portrayed
as this magical place,
707
00:30:57,439 --> 00:30:59,441
that anything can happen.
708
00:30:59,441 --> 00:31:02,527
ANGELICA: California's
a character--it's special.
709
00:31:02,527 --> 00:31:05,572
It's like Baywatch
really amplified California
710
00:31:05,572 --> 00:31:07,908
when it was airing
because we showed
711
00:31:07,908 --> 00:31:09,367
the glamour of the beaches.
712
00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:11,661
We showed what the life
would be like here.
713
00:31:11,661 --> 00:31:14,790
- To people who are not
from California,
714
00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:16,166
this is the big dream--
715
00:31:16,166 --> 00:31:19,628
sunsets and sunrises
and beautiful people.
716
00:31:19,628 --> 00:31:21,713
MATTHEW: The thing that's
interesting about California,
717
00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:24,758
specifically in the '90s,
is that on television,
718
00:31:24,758 --> 00:31:26,718
we saw one thing.
719
00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:29,221
On CNN, we saw
a different thing.
720
00:31:29,221 --> 00:31:31,056
[helicopter blades thrumming]
721
00:31:31,056 --> 00:31:33,892
- In the real world,
you had this racial dynamic
722
00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:36,061
that was playing out.
723
00:31:36,061 --> 00:31:38,396
MATTHEW: Before George Floyd,
we had Rodney King.
724
00:31:38,396 --> 00:31:40,816
And this is when video cameras
were starting.
725
00:31:40,816 --> 00:31:43,610
And now someone had videoed
complete and total
726
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:46,613
horrific police brutality
on a Black motorist.
727
00:31:46,613 --> 00:31:48,865
And this just sparked outrage.
728
00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:50,158
[crowd shouting]
729
00:31:50,158 --> 00:31:51,743
REPORTER:
Very tense situation here.
730
00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:54,412
Demonstrators now toe to toe
with the police officers.
731
00:31:54,412 --> 00:31:55,831
- Hey, you two.
Come on.
732
00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:57,791
- I'm an innocent victim.
- Let's go.
733
00:31:57,791 --> 00:32:00,377
- We're burning down
our gas stations.
734
00:32:00,377 --> 00:32:02,963
We're burning down
our supermarkets.
735
00:32:02,963 --> 00:32:04,881
You know, it don't
make no sense.
736
00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:08,009
- All of it was coming.
It was just a matter of time.
737
00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:11,721
[siren wailing]
738
00:32:11,721 --> 00:32:13,390
JAASON:
It was crazy.
739
00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:15,684
There were fires
on every corner.
740
00:32:15,684 --> 00:32:18,770
That's the first time
that I heard the word "curfew."
741
00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:20,981
[indistinct shouting]
742
00:32:20,981 --> 00:32:23,483
INGRID:
Everyone was on lockdown.
743
00:32:23,483 --> 00:32:25,902
You couldn't leave
where you were.
744
00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:29,906
- I was just like,
this is insane.
745
00:32:29,906 --> 00:32:32,325
Like, where am I?
746
00:32:32,325 --> 00:32:34,953
CHRIS: And yet the one
Black star on Baywatch
747
00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:38,707
turns out to have a kind of
amazing real-life connection
748
00:32:38,707 --> 00:32:42,919
to the riots in the wake
of the Rodney King verdict.
749
00:32:42,919 --> 00:32:44,629
GREGORY: I was there,
and a man came
750
00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:46,631
through the
intersection in a Bronco 2,
751
00:32:46,631 --> 00:32:48,508
and several bricks
hit his window simultaneously.
752
00:32:48,508 --> 00:32:49,926
His front window shattered.
753
00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:52,429
REPORTER: That's Williams
in the red shorts.
754
00:32:52,429 --> 00:32:55,432
GREGORY: You know, people
broke the windows
755
00:32:55,432 --> 00:32:58,226
on the Bronco and began
beating him--you know, pipes,
756
00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:03,190
rods, bricks, fists, bottles.
757
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:07,819
And I watched him slump forward
onto the steering wheel.
758
00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:12,282
I'm saying to myself,
man, if you stand here
759
00:33:12,282 --> 00:33:16,203
and let these people kill
this man in front of you,
760
00:33:16,203 --> 00:33:20,081
you can't look yourself
in the eye ever again.
761
00:33:23,251 --> 00:33:25,462
CHRIS:
It's a very tumultuous time,
762
00:33:25,462 --> 00:33:27,839
particularly all the
conversation going on
763
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:28,965
about race.
764
00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:31,885
None of that is touching
Baywatch.
765
00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:35,639
ALEXANDRA: I kept asking
the producers
766
00:33:35,639 --> 00:33:38,642
to please give me
a boyfriend who was of color.
767
00:33:38,642 --> 00:33:41,686
And so they said,
Alexandra, we've written
768
00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:44,314
in a couple of episodes
where you have a boyfriend.
769
00:33:44,314 --> 00:33:46,274
And guess what.
He's Latin.
770
00:33:46,274 --> 00:33:48,109
And I said, oh, that's great.
771
00:33:48,109 --> 00:33:52,864
And then I read the script,
and he's a gang member.
772
00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:54,950
And I went back to
the producers, and I said,
773
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:57,577
you cannot make him
a gang member.
774
00:33:57,577 --> 00:33:59,496
So they made him
an ex-gang member.
775
00:33:59,496 --> 00:34:00,830
You were in a gang?
776
00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:02,749
- Let's just say it's kind
of hard to be a saint
777
00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:05,001
growing up in the city.
778
00:34:05,001 --> 00:34:08,755
- We made so many mistakes
back then in the '90s.
779
00:34:08,755 --> 00:34:12,968
Greg Alan Williams was
the only person of color
780
00:34:12,968 --> 00:34:15,470
who was a regular
for the first, what,
781
00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:17,389
six years of the show?
782
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:21,601
[poignant music]
783
00:34:21,601 --> 00:34:23,103
GREGORY:
I'm Greg Alan Williams.
784
00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:26,356
I played
Sergeant Garner Ellerbee
785
00:34:26,356 --> 00:34:30,068
on Baywatch
for about six, seven seasons.
786
00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:32,570
I was born and raised
in Des Moines, Iowa,
787
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:35,865
child of a single mother
from Mississippi.
788
00:34:35,865 --> 00:34:37,993
My mother was my acting coach.
789
00:34:37,993 --> 00:34:41,288
She wasn't a stage mom,
but she did teach me
790
00:34:41,288 --> 00:34:45,166
the magic of the written
and spoken word.
791
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:46,751
CHILD: What did you
do in the circus?
792
00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:47,877
PERSON:
Fancy shooting, mostly.
793
00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:49,546
Then I started my tricks--
794
00:34:49,546 --> 00:34:51,256
flat spins,
all kinds of spins,
795
00:34:51,256 --> 00:34:52,757
little tricks
that catch the eye.
796
00:34:52,757 --> 00:34:54,342
GREGORY: Sammy Davis Jr.
was the first person of color
797
00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:56,803
I'd seen playing
a cowboy on television.
798
00:34:56,803 --> 00:34:58,888
He was in an episode
of The Rifleman
799
00:34:58,888 --> 00:35:01,474
when I was eight or nine years
old, playing a gunslinger
800
00:35:01,474 --> 00:35:03,852
and doing all these
tricks with guns.
801
00:35:03,852 --> 00:35:06,438
[laughs]
802
00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:11,318
I auditioned for Baywatch
in May of '89.
803
00:35:11,318 --> 00:35:13,403
My agent called me and said,
they want you to come to LA
804
00:35:13,403 --> 00:35:15,030
and do this beach show.
805
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:17,032
I had the absolute time
of my life.
806
00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:21,077
I never imagined that
I'd be part of that mix,
807
00:35:21,077 --> 00:35:24,497
running and jumping
and driving ATVs.
808
00:35:24,497 --> 00:35:27,375
You know, 110 brothers
auditioned for that role,
809
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:28,877
my understanding is.
810
00:35:28,877 --> 00:35:30,420
Why did I get it?
811
00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:32,380
One of the reasons--
because I was kind of pudgy
812
00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:34,549
and because I'm shorter
than Hasselhoff.
813
00:35:34,549 --> 00:35:36,801
First season I came
into Baywatch,
814
00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:38,595
I was a little heavy.
815
00:35:38,595 --> 00:35:41,181
I do remember
getting a trainer.
816
00:35:41,181 --> 00:35:43,683
And, I mean, I got fit.
817
00:35:43,683 --> 00:35:45,810
I was looking good.
818
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:49,731
Somebody told me one day, now,
Greg Alan, don't get too fit.
819
00:35:49,731 --> 00:35:51,650
Because I got wrapped up in,
820
00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:54,569
right, this show
is about pretty people.
821
00:35:54,569 --> 00:35:58,239
I need to get myself
together...
822
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,033
because I'm part
of these people.
823
00:36:00,033 --> 00:36:01,785
No, you ain't.
824
00:36:01,785 --> 00:36:04,746
That was another reminder.
825
00:36:04,746 --> 00:36:08,666
You can't be as fit
as the lead guy.
826
00:36:08,666 --> 00:36:13,421
I forgot my place on Baywatch,
my character's place.
827
00:36:13,421 --> 00:36:15,632
My job wasn't to be sexy.
828
00:36:15,632 --> 00:36:19,010
I was a sidekick, sidekick.
829
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:22,514
Man, the sidekick
can't be sexy.
830
00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:24,849
Sidekick got to be a clown.
831
00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:27,644
[growling]
832
00:36:27,644 --> 00:36:30,688
- Okay. I got 'em, Jaws.
I got 'em! I got 'em!
833
00:36:30,688 --> 00:36:32,899
- It's all
about the aesthetics, baby.
834
00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:36,945
And my beauty
was not celebrated.
835
00:36:36,945 --> 00:36:40,281
MATTHEW: So Baywatch did
these promotional tours.
836
00:36:40,281 --> 00:36:43,118
The show was constantly
being promoted
837
00:36:43,118 --> 00:36:46,704
and reminded to the consumer,
this is the show.
838
00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:48,206
These are the cast.
839
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:49,666
These are the pretty people.
840
00:36:49,666 --> 00:36:52,836
- In 1989, Greg Bonann called
me up one day, said,
841
00:36:52,836 --> 00:36:56,464
they're going to do Christmas
promos for Baywatch.
842
00:36:56,464 --> 00:36:58,591
Greg Alan, we want
you out there.
843
00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:01,886
I went out to the beach...
844
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:04,264
was walking across that sand.
845
00:37:04,264 --> 00:37:06,224
A woman began
walking toward me.
846
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,143
As I got halfway there,
she said,
847
00:37:08,143 --> 00:37:12,313
Greg Alan, we don't need you
in these shots.
848
00:37:12,313 --> 00:37:16,151
That walk back across that
sand was the longest walk
849
00:37:16,151 --> 00:37:18,319
I've ever taken in my life.
850
00:37:20,155 --> 00:37:24,742
I realized that I was not
what they were selling.
851
00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:27,746
Baywatch was a show
that celebrated...
852
00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:30,331
European beauty.
853
00:37:30,331 --> 00:37:33,501
So, at that point,
I put up a wall
854
00:37:33,501 --> 00:37:36,546
between myself and the show
855
00:37:36,546 --> 00:37:39,924
and decided
I would have the fun...
856
00:37:41,885 --> 00:37:44,053
And make the money...
857
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:48,183
But I wasn't going to let it
hurt me.
858
00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:53,104
Those were Baywatch lessons.
859
00:37:53,104 --> 00:37:57,066
Baywatch was
of great value to me.
860
00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:59,694
It taught me.
861
00:37:59,694 --> 00:38:01,988
It empowered me.
862
00:38:04,032 --> 00:38:06,201
Every now and then, it hurt me.
863
00:38:06,201 --> 00:38:08,578
♪ ♪
864
00:38:08,578 --> 00:38:11,790
But so do the people
and the things we love.
865
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:16,044
I need to take a break, okay?
866
00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:19,005
[sniffles]
Ah, Jesus.
867
00:38:19,005 --> 00:38:21,174
Man, I really appreciate this,
you know.
868
00:38:21,174 --> 00:38:22,759
[crying]
I really needed a chance
869
00:38:22,759 --> 00:38:24,636
to work through this shit, man.
870
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,639
♪ ♪
871
00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:33,853
[Jimi Jamison's
"I'm Always Here"]
872
00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:37,941
♪ ♪
873
00:38:37,941 --> 00:38:42,195
SINGER 1: ♪ Some people stand
in the darkness ♪
874
00:38:42,195 --> 00:38:45,949
♪ Afraid to step
into the light ♪
875
00:38:45,949 --> 00:38:50,578
♪ Some people need
to help somebody ♪
876
00:38:50,578 --> 00:38:53,289
♪ When the edge of surrender's
in sight ♪
877
00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:56,292
♪ Don't you worry ♪
878
00:38:56,292 --> 00:39:00,004
♪ It's gonna be all right ♪
879
00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:02,382
♪ ♪
880
00:39:02,382 --> 00:39:04,217
♪ 'Cause I'm always ready ♪
881
00:39:04,217 --> 00:39:07,554
♪ I won't let you
out of my sight ♪
882
00:39:07,554 --> 00:39:10,807
♪ ♪
883
00:39:10,807 --> 00:39:12,767
SINGERS:
♪ I'll be ready ♪
884
00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:14,727
SINGER 1:
♪ Oh, I'll be ready ♪
885
00:39:14,727 --> 00:39:16,813
SINGERS:
♪ Never you fear ♪
886
00:39:16,813 --> 00:39:18,731
SINGER 2:
♪ Oh, don't you fear ♪
887
00:39:18,731 --> 00:39:20,608
SINGERS:
♪ I'll be ready ♪
888
00:39:20,608 --> 00:39:22,527
SINGER 2:
♪ I'll be ready ♪
889
00:39:22,527 --> 00:39:25,405
SINGER 1:
♪ Forever and always ♪
890
00:39:25,405 --> 00:39:29,659
SINGERS 1 AND 2:
♪ I'm always here ♪
891
00:39:29,659 --> 00:39:32,412
♪ ♪
892
00:39:32,412 --> 00:39:36,457
SINGER 1: ♪ I'm always here
by your side ♪
893
00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:40,253
[singers vocalizing]
894
00:39:40,253 --> 00:39:45,717
♪ I'm always here by your ♪
895
00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:49,888
♪ By your side ♪
896
00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:52,515
SINGERS 1 AND 2:
♪ 'Cause I'm always ready ♪
897
00:39:52,515 --> 00:39:56,185
♪ I won't let you
out of my sight ♪
898
00:39:56,185 --> 00:39:59,230
SINGER 1:
♪ Whoa, whoa ♪
899
00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:00,898
SINGERS:
♪ I'll be ready ♪
900
00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:03,443
SINGER 1:
♪ Oh, I'll be ready ♪
901
00:40:03,443 --> 00:40:05,278
SINGERS:
♪ Never you fear ♪
902
00:40:05,278 --> 00:40:07,196
SINGER 2:
♪ Don't you fear ♪
903
00:40:07,196 --> 00:40:09,908
SINGERS:
♪ I'll be ready ♪
904
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:12,994
SINGER 1:
♪ Forever and always ♪
905
00:40:12,994 --> 00:40:14,704
SINGER 2:
♪ Forever and always ♪
906
00:40:14,704 --> 00:40:16,497
SINGER 1:
♪ Forever and always ♪
907
00:40:16,497 --> 00:40:18,499
SINGER 2:
♪ Forever and always ♪
908
00:40:18,499 --> 00:40:21,461
SINGER 1: ♪ Forever ♪
SINGERS 1 AND 2: ♪ And always ♪
909
00:40:21,461 --> 00:40:26,007
♪ I'm always here ♪
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