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[REPORTER] It's been four hours since
David Koresh and his followers
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have refused
to release themselves to the FBI
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following a bloody shootout with ATF.
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Now, details are scarce,
but the question
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everyone seems to be asking,
"Just when will they come out?"
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[NEWS ANCHOR] The federal agents
came under heavy and sustained fire
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as they approached a ranch owned by...
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They're making us look like monsters.
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Calling us child abusers.
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Everyone's in the chapel wondering
why we're not going out.
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I need you to talk to 'em.
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[NEWS ANCHOR] ...believed
to have been collected
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by Branch Davidian cult members.
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[WHIRRING]
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Negotiations failed, Noesner.
They reneged on their deal.
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Let me handle this. I can have
the building cleared by lunch.
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Look. This isn't the first time
in the history of negotiations
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that someone reneged on a deal, okay?
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Our primary objective has to be
getting those kids out safely.
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Clearing the building comes second.
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They're screwing with us.
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Now's the time to apply more pressure.
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No, no, no. Let's not mistake getting
even for getting what we want.
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"Trickle-flow-gush."
That's my next strategy.
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If I can get a few people to trickle out,
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more will follow as it starts to flow
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and once Koresh sees
enough people leave,
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he won't be the last in line.
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It would undermine his authority.
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He'll lead the rest of them out himself,
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and the whole thing will be over.
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I just need a little time.
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[SIGHS] Okay.
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But...
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a little show of force
might help get their attention.
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Okay.
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[DAVID] Over the years...
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you've looked to me to be your leader.
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To guide you on this journey.
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But I'm no leader.
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I'm a follower. Just like you.
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God has instructed me to stay here.
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And wait for His sign
before I go out there.
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But I can't ask you to do the same.
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[HELICOPTER WHIRRING]
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And whoever wants to leave,
you're free to go.
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But those of thinking of going,
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I want you to ask yourself...
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why did you sacrifice
all the comforts you had
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to come here?
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Know it or not,
you came here to be tested.
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And this is a test.
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This is our withering.
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Our time to prove through suffering...
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that we are worthy
of the miracle that's to come.
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[CLEARS THROAT]
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The kingdom of heaven is coming.
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And those of us that pass this test
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will be the worthy.
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And those of us that fail this test...
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well... you're gonna have
to answer to God.
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[PANTING] And I can't...
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- [THUD]
- [MAN] David!
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[WIND WHISTLING]
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[SIGHING]
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You're burning up.
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[WINCING]
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Uh, I'll get him some water.
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[PANTING]
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[PANTING]
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Which one's my dad?
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Hey. You probably shouldn't be in here.
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You know that old myrtle tree outside?
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- The one out front?
- Yeah.
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[THIBODEAU] Mm-hmm.
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My dad and I planted it when I was five.
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He loved that old tree.
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He always wanted to be buried
next to it.
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And now, look.
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Instead, he's getting buried
with buckets and shovels like...
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- like a piece of garbage.
- Hey.
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- [SOBS]
- Hey.
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[WHIRRING]
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[WHIRRING]
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[FAINT RUMBLING]
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[WHIRRING]
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[CLICKS]
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Get back. Get back.
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[STEVE] You promised
to stay off our land.
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Well, David made a promise, too.
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He gave us his word, after his
message was played, he'd come out.
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He didn't come out.
He... he broke his promise.
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Could you put him on the phone?
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No. He doesn't want
to talk to you right now.
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[GARY] Look, Steve,
my bosses are frustrated.
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They don't understand
why you didn't come out.
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Look, I'm embarrassed about
that, on a personal level.
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We were gonna come out, but...
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God told David that we needed to wait.
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- God told him?
- Yeah, just like you guys
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follow a higher authority, we do too.
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Okay. So, what now?
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So, now, we wait for a sign from
God to tell us to come out.
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Look...
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I know this all probably
sounds funny to you.
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But...
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what if there is a higher power
than you or I, Gary?
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And that higher power,
He speaks to David?
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If there is a God in this universe,
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and you've got the laws of man
and the laws of God,
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and that God that has led David
his entire life
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says to him, "Wait."
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I mean, what is he supposed to do?
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Well, I have to be honest
with you, Steve.
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I don't know how my bosses
are gonna respond
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when I tell them we're waiting
for a sign from God.
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You know, what I could really
use is a sign of good faith.
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If David could send
some of the people out.
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What, do you think we're hostages here?
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No one is a hostage here, Gary.
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Everyone is free
to come and go as they please.
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Then why isn't anyone coming out?
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Because, right now,
everyone feels safer in here
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than they do out there with you.
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And because once you get
into this building,
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you're going to be able to mess with
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the evidence in any way that you want.
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And you can make up any story
that you want,
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but if this building stands,
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and the reporters and the press
get to see the evidence,
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then it is going to be clearly shown
what happened here,
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what these men...
what your men came in here to do.
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- You want us to come out?
- David, listen. You've gotta...
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Then why are you bringing
these tanks in here?
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Do you know what that tells me?
[PANTING]
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That this is war.
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Why are you sending all these
people in here, guns a-blazing?
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For war, Gary.
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- [HELICOPTER WHIRRING]
- And now, these tanks?
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And these guys surrounding us?
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You say you want us to come out,
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but it sure doesn't look like that to us.
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David, I...
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[GASPS]
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[GRUNTS]
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[SIGHS]
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"Personal level."
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"On a personal level."
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What'd we just learn
from this conversation?
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That they'll do whatever
this Koresh guy tells 'em.
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No, we already knew that.
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But Steve said that he was embarrassed
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about that "on a personal level."
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He's separating himself from Koresh.
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- Saying he doesn't agree.
- Huh.
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What can you tell me
about this Steve Schneider?
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Uh, well, he was a professor of
theology at the University of Hawaii.
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- Uh-huh.
- He's originally from Wisconsin.
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He and his wife joined the group
six years ago.
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He's their star recruiter.
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The group has nearly doubled
since he joined.
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- Really?
- Our informant says
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that he's the glue
that keeps this place together.
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And get this.
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His wife, Judy,
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recently had a baby with Koresh.
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[WHISTLES] That can't be good
for the relationship.
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Yeah.
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[WALTER CHUCKLES]
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If Steve brought
most of these people in,
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I would guess he feels responsible
for their well-being.
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Right? Let's focus
all our attention on him.
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If we can break Steve away,
this whole thing ends.
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[STEVE] David...?
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[VOICE ECHOES] Can you hear me?
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I'd like to send some people out.
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Jaydean's kids are without a mother,
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and Margaret and Catherine,
they're just...
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they're just too old for this.
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[RACHEL] We are running low on food.
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And our water supply is real bad.
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The less mouths to feed, the better.
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[KNOCKING]
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- Well, that's getting worse.
- Yeah.
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Let me see.
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It hurts real bad.
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[STEVE] Ooh-whee.
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- Hey.
- Hmm?
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- I'm thinking you should go.
- Well, is David going?
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[SIGHS] No.
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- Then I'm not going.
- Look at your finger.
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If that infection spreads, you...
I mean, you could lose your hand.
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- I know.
- You could lose your life.
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It hurts so bad, I can't sleep.
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Cut it off.
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What?
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I'm gonna lose it anyway, Steve.
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- Cut it off.
- No!
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Has everyone around here
lost their minds?
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Nobody's cutting your finger off!
And I'm sending you outside
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- to get medical attention.
- No, you're not!
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- Yes I am...
- No, you are not!
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I just got off the phone.
They're sending four people out.
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- Two of 'em, kids.
- That's a start.
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Four people seems hardly cause
for celebration.
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Well, they're starting to trickle out.
The strategy's working.
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Now, you think you can help me
coordinate bringing 'em out?
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Yeah, sure.
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[BABY MOANS]
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[WHINING] Mama.
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Mama. Ma...
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Hey, there.
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I'm Gary. What's your name?
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- Leona.
- Leona?
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Such a pretty name.
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Hey, why don't we call your mom
and tell her you're okay?
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- We can't call her.
- Why not?
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Because you killed her.
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[SIGHS]
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- Hey, Steve?
- Yep?
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I was wondering if you could
talk to the FBI about Perry.
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See if they'll let us
bury his body outside.
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I asked you to bury his body
in the storm shelter.
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- I know. It's just... Michelle.
- Mm-hmm.
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I know it would mean a lot to her
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if we could bury him
by the myrtle tree...
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It's impossible. It's not gonna happen.
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Could you just ask? Please?
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[SIGHS] I can try.
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[RON] All right, today, we got something
a little different for y'all.
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Our guest today is a Dr. James
Tabor, professor of... what was it?
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I specialize in emergent religions.
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Emergent religions.
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Let's talk about your interest
in this Branch Davidian cult.
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Yeah, I'm gonna stop you
right there, Ron.
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I would propose that there's
no such thing as a cult.
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"Cult" is a judgment word used
to talk about somebody else's
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tightly-knit religious group.
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Nobody in the world belongs
to what they see as a cult.
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[RON] Yeah, but there are
certain traits you think of
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- when you think of a cult.
- [TABOR] That's true.
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The early Christians, by our
definition, belonged to a cult.
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[RON] So you're saying
Jesus was a cult leader?
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[TABOR] I wasn't saying it
exactly like that,
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but by the common definition
of "cult," yes.
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[RON] Oh, that got the phones ringing.
You done it now, Dr. Tabor.
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Excuse me. My son is in Mt. Carmel,
and I need to talk to him.
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How did you get past the barricade?
250
00:15:23,735 --> 00:15:27,337
Listen, I am not altogether sure how
he got mixed up in all this mess,
251
00:15:27,471 --> 00:15:30,040
but I know if I could talk to him,
if I could just speak to him,
252
00:15:30,174 --> 00:15:32,309
that I could get him to come out.
253
00:15:33,077 --> 00:15:34,578
I'm sorry, I can't let you do that.
254
00:15:34,712 --> 00:15:36,247
- Why not?
- Because I don't wanna give him
255
00:15:36,380 --> 00:15:39,517
or anyone in there the chance
to tie up loose ends.
256
00:15:41,253 --> 00:15:43,687
You think that they're
gonna kill themselves?
257
00:15:44,487 --> 00:15:45,722
Doesn't matter what I think.
258
00:15:46,490 --> 00:15:49,193
But I'm not gonna give them a
chance to say goodbye either way.
259
00:15:49,327 --> 00:15:51,029
Please escort her
back behind the checkpoint.
260
00:15:51,163 --> 00:15:53,130
I just wanna know if he's all right.
261
00:15:53,264 --> 00:15:54,599
His name is David Thibodeau.
262
00:15:54,731 --> 00:15:56,500
The news reports
aren't releasing any names.
263
00:15:56,634 --> 00:15:59,736
I'm sorry, ma'am. I don't have any
more information at this time.
264
00:15:59,870 --> 00:16:03,774
I just need to know
if he's alive! Please!
265
00:16:07,345 --> 00:16:09,314
[RACHEL] David,
your fever's not breaking.
266
00:16:09,447 --> 00:16:12,551
I'm afraid you're going to die
if we don't get you help.
267
00:16:14,719 --> 00:16:16,088
[DAVID MURMURS]
268
00:16:17,087 --> 00:16:18,956
It's all part of God's plan.
269
00:16:19,090 --> 00:16:22,127
No. I just lost my father.
I'm not gonna lose you, too.
270
00:16:23,094 --> 00:16:24,863
[PHONE RINGS]
271
00:16:28,299 --> 00:16:31,001
- Hello?
- [GARY] Hello. Who's this?
272
00:16:32,903 --> 00:16:35,840
- Cyrus.
- David's son.
273
00:16:35,972 --> 00:16:37,841
- Yeah.
- Well, hello, Cyrus.
274
00:16:37,975 --> 00:16:40,010
Can you put your dad on the phone?
275
00:16:41,846 --> 00:16:44,081
Are you gonna kill me?
276
00:16:44,849 --> 00:16:48,954
[GULPS] No. No one's going to kill you.
277
00:16:49,721 --> 00:16:50,956
[STEVE] Cyrus?
278
00:16:51,755 --> 00:16:53,125
Thanks, buddy.
279
00:16:54,491 --> 00:16:56,060
Come here.
280
00:16:57,127 --> 00:16:58,328
Hello, this is Steve Schneider.
281
00:16:59,663 --> 00:17:02,299
Oh, hey, Steve. Just wanted
to give you a quick call
282
00:17:02,432 --> 00:17:04,801
and let you know
that everybody arrived safe.
283
00:17:04,935 --> 00:17:08,338
Good. Well, I hope that
shows you what we're about.
284
00:17:09,317 --> 00:17:11,075
We wanna see this resolved peacefully.
285
00:17:11,209 --> 00:17:15,078
Of course. I can tell you're
the voice of reason in there.
286
00:17:15,211 --> 00:17:18,648
I bet people count on you to
make sure they're taken care of.
287
00:17:18,782 --> 00:17:20,784
[STEVE] I'm not sure that's true.
288
00:17:20,917 --> 00:17:22,446
Well, from what I hear,
289
00:17:22,485 --> 00:17:24,485
you're the reason
the group's grown like it has.
290
00:17:24,622 --> 00:17:27,991
The reason that the group has grown
is because of David's teaching,
291
00:17:28,125 --> 00:17:29,627
not because of anything I'm doing.
292
00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,163
I think you're being modest.
293
00:17:32,730 --> 00:17:34,632
Knowing everything you know now...
294
00:17:35,398 --> 00:17:38,569
are you happy you brought
all those people in there?
295
00:17:39,336 --> 00:17:41,338
I'm not sure
what you're driving at, Gary.
296
00:17:41,471 --> 00:17:45,844
Well, do you think David has
everyone's best interest in mind?
297
00:17:50,748 --> 00:17:52,884
Yeah. I do.
298
00:17:53,017 --> 00:17:55,286
Because, forgive me for saying this,
299
00:17:55,420 --> 00:17:58,556
but I can't help but notice a
trend that when God comes to talk
300
00:17:58,690 --> 00:18:00,725
to modern-day prophets,
301
00:18:01,492 --> 00:18:03,693
it seems one thing
He always tells them to do
302
00:18:03,827 --> 00:18:06,430
is have sex with lots of young women.
303
00:18:07,364 --> 00:18:10,401
Well, that's a pretty cynical
view of what we're doing here.
304
00:18:10,534 --> 00:18:13,037
I'm not sure I appreciate
your tone with that one.
305
00:18:13,170 --> 00:18:16,407
- Then explain it to me.
- I'm not stupid.
306
00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:20,243
I know you're trying to create
dissent between me and David.
307
00:18:21,011 --> 00:18:23,214
You're right, I am.
'Cause you know what I think?
308
00:18:24,115 --> 00:18:26,384
I think David's dying,
309
00:18:26,517 --> 00:18:28,719
and I think he doesn't mind
bringing all of you with him.
310
00:18:28,853 --> 00:18:30,788
You know, Gary,
where you've got this all wrong,
311
00:18:30,921 --> 00:18:32,690
the thing that you're missing...
312
00:18:32,823 --> 00:18:34,392
is this is real.
313
00:18:34,525 --> 00:18:36,994
I do believe that David
is the Lamb of God.
314
00:18:37,127 --> 00:18:39,163
Not because of any trick he's pulled,
315
00:18:39,297 --> 00:18:43,134
but because of what I have seen
with my own two eyes.
316
00:18:43,268 --> 00:18:48,472
But he's lost his way, Steve.
I think you can see it.
317
00:18:49,641 --> 00:18:54,512
For years, David has been prophesying
exactly what is happening here.
318
00:18:54,644 --> 00:18:57,615
From the way you came in, to the
tanks, the soldiers, everything.
319
00:18:57,748 --> 00:19:00,552
I can't figure out another
explanation that makes any sense.
320
00:19:01,318 --> 00:19:04,856
For a minor weapons violation? All this?
321
00:19:04,989 --> 00:19:06,958
You think he's lost his way?
322
00:19:07,090 --> 00:19:11,295
Everything David has prophesied
has come true.
323
00:19:15,866 --> 00:19:17,769
[SIGHS]
324
00:19:25,375 --> 00:19:27,677
Hey, guys, stay away from the window.
325
00:19:27,811 --> 00:19:29,713
- It's not safe.
- [HELICOPTER WHIRRING]
326
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,621
[CYRUS] Why are they doing that?
327
00:19:37,754 --> 00:19:39,256
I don't know.
328
00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:41,292
Come on. Let's go.
329
00:19:42,326 --> 00:19:45,230
- [HELICOPTER WHIRRING]
- [WALTER] What's going on?
330
00:19:47,766 --> 00:19:49,300
[SIGHS]
331
00:19:49,432 --> 00:19:51,535
What goes through
people's heads, you know?
332
00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:54,872
I mean, these HRT guys, what
makes grown men act like that?
333
00:19:55,006 --> 00:19:57,875
They're mooning kids, for God's sake.
334
00:19:58,008 --> 00:19:59,744
They're just built that way.
335
00:20:00,577 --> 00:20:03,882
The sad thing is, the Davidians
can't tell us apart from them.
336
00:20:08,251 --> 00:20:10,254
I need you to get me a video camera.
337
00:20:11,989 --> 00:20:14,025
Ready? How's my hair?
338
00:20:14,157 --> 00:20:15,759
It's about as good as it's gonna get.
339
00:20:15,893 --> 00:20:17,694
- Knock it off.
- [LAUGHS]
340
00:20:17,827 --> 00:20:19,364
All right. We're good.
341
00:20:20,765 --> 00:20:23,868
Hello. I'm Gary Noesner.
342
00:20:24,702 --> 00:20:26,404
The notorious.
343
00:20:26,537 --> 00:20:28,940
And...
344
00:20:29,073 --> 00:20:30,508
this is my family.
345
00:20:32,009 --> 00:20:33,677
Yeah, that's my wife, Carol, there,
346
00:20:33,811 --> 00:20:38,782
and my kids, Kelly, Katy,
and Rusty, and I love 'em.
347
00:20:38,915 --> 00:20:41,452
I'm sure you love your kids
the same way.
348
00:20:41,585 --> 00:20:45,190
And there is literally nothing I
wouldn't do to keep my children safe.
349
00:20:46,690 --> 00:20:48,759
I'm sure we share that feeling.
350
00:20:50,894 --> 00:20:53,231
Now, any way you look at it,
this is a bad situation,
351
00:20:53,364 --> 00:20:58,169
but I wanna make sure that your
kids remain safe through it all.
352
00:20:59,036 --> 00:21:01,139
So, please...
353
00:21:02,073 --> 00:21:03,941
please work with me.
354
00:21:04,741 --> 00:21:05,909
Help me keep your kids safe.
355
00:21:06,042 --> 00:21:08,245
[WHIRRING]
356
00:21:09,881 --> 00:21:11,449
[BABY CRYING]
357
00:21:12,449 --> 00:21:13,551
[WHISPERS] Rachel?
358
00:21:15,586 --> 00:21:17,255
[BABY CRYING]
359
00:21:18,055 --> 00:21:20,423
Hey, I got a weird question.
360
00:21:20,557 --> 00:21:21,860
Y'know, I...
361
00:21:23,827 --> 00:21:27,197
Uh... I'm not producing any milk.
362
00:21:28,499 --> 00:21:32,169
And... I was wondering if you
had some to spare for Mayanah.
363
00:21:32,301 --> 00:21:36,039
I'm having the same problem.
All the mothers are.
364
00:21:36,839 --> 00:21:40,278
- You are?
- Yeah. Sorry.
365
00:21:40,411 --> 00:21:43,782
- Oh, God.
- [RACHEL SNIFFLES]
366
00:21:43,914 --> 00:21:45,916
All right.
367
00:21:47,751 --> 00:21:50,187
- [BABY CRYING]
- Shh, shh, shh...
368
00:21:51,888 --> 00:21:53,756
[GROANS]
369
00:21:53,891 --> 00:21:56,060
This universe is mine.
370
00:21:56,192 --> 00:21:57,360
[WALTER] I can't believe
Koresh likes this.
371
00:21:57,493 --> 00:21:59,096
I am God here!
372
00:21:59,896 --> 00:22:01,899
- Jesus.
- [CHUCKLES]
373
00:22:02,967 --> 00:22:05,036
- I don't get this movie.
- Mm.
374
00:22:05,169 --> 00:22:07,438
I can't say it makes
my top 10 list either.
375
00:22:07,571 --> 00:22:10,040
[MAN ON VIDEO] You're wrong.
You need to be led...
376
00:22:10,173 --> 00:22:11,208
- [PHONE RINGING]
- Ready?
377
00:22:11,342 --> 00:22:13,277
- Yeah.
- [MONITOR BEEPS]
378
00:22:14,045 --> 00:22:16,214
- Hello?
- Hey, Gary, it's Steve.
379
00:22:16,346 --> 00:22:20,151
Um, we just wanted to say thanks
for sending the videotape.
380
00:22:20,284 --> 00:22:21,752
We understand what you're trying to do,
381
00:22:21,884 --> 00:22:24,387
and we really appreciate
you making that effort.
382
00:22:24,521 --> 00:22:27,023
I just wanted you to know that
there's some people out here
383
00:22:27,156 --> 00:22:29,259
who care about what happens
to you, that's all.
384
00:22:29,393 --> 00:22:31,194
Yeah. Um...
385
00:22:31,327 --> 00:22:34,365
I do have one small problem,
386
00:22:34,498 --> 00:22:37,201
and I could really use your help.
387
00:22:37,335 --> 00:22:39,370
- What kinda problem?
- [SIGHS] So...
388
00:22:39,502 --> 00:22:41,538
I guess because of the stress
of all this,
389
00:22:42,539 --> 00:22:47,443
the mothers who are nursing have...
have stopped lactating.
390
00:22:47,577 --> 00:22:51,014
So... we need milk.
391
00:22:51,147 --> 00:22:53,916
For the babies. Could you send some in?
392
00:22:54,684 --> 00:22:58,154
- Let me talk to my bosses.
- Okay. Thanks, Gary.
393
00:22:58,288 --> 00:22:59,590
You bet.
394
00:23:02,826 --> 00:23:06,530
No, I'm not throwing them
a picnic on national TV.
395
00:23:06,663 --> 00:23:08,965
They want milk,
they can come out and get it.
396
00:23:09,098 --> 00:23:13,570
Look. Usually the people I negotiate
with are backed into a corner.
397
00:23:13,704 --> 00:23:17,040
They need something.
And that's what gives me leverage.
398
00:23:17,174 --> 00:23:20,711
But these people,
they just want us to go away.
399
00:23:20,845 --> 00:23:23,547
The only way I've been able to
motivate them is with goodwill.
400
00:23:23,681 --> 00:23:27,351
But now, their babies need milk,
and we can give it to them.
401
00:23:28,519 --> 00:23:31,455
This is something we can build on.
We can use this.
402
00:23:33,023 --> 00:23:35,925
So, Steve, I talked to my bosses,
403
00:23:36,059 --> 00:23:37,561
and they're gonna give you the milk.
404
00:23:37,694 --> 00:23:39,496
Aw, Gary. [SIGHS]
405
00:23:39,631 --> 00:23:42,033
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
406
00:23:42,932 --> 00:23:46,471
But there's one condition. You're
gonna have to send some kids out.
407
00:23:49,173 --> 00:23:53,310
Wait. Um... let me just make
sure I'm hearing you correctly.
408
00:23:54,111 --> 00:23:56,514
Um, you want us to trade...
409
00:23:57,815 --> 00:23:58,982
our kids for the milk?
410
00:23:59,750 --> 00:24:01,918
I wouldn't really put it like that.
I'm just saying that...
411
00:24:02,052 --> 00:24:03,768
Look, I don't wanna
point out the obvious,
412
00:24:03,792 --> 00:24:06,292
but if we send out our kids,
then we won't need the milk, will we?
413
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:07,291
Steve?
414
00:24:07,423 --> 00:24:09,961
- Yeah?
- May I?
415
00:24:10,994 --> 00:24:13,430
Um, yeah. David wants to talk to you.
416
00:24:14,198 --> 00:24:16,000
Yeah, how much milk
we talking here, Gary?
417
00:24:16,133 --> 00:24:17,735
- David...
- Two quarts per kid? Three?
418
00:24:17,868 --> 00:24:20,771
I mean, some kids
gotta be worth more than others.
419
00:24:20,904 --> 00:24:22,589
Cyrus, my son, he's eight,
420
00:24:22,613 --> 00:24:25,534
but he can fix any car engine
you put in front of him.
421
00:24:25,642 --> 00:24:29,346
That's gotta be worth, what, at
least three quarts and a milkshake?
422
00:24:30,114 --> 00:24:31,281
You people.
423
00:24:32,048 --> 00:24:33,684
[HANDSET CLICKS]
424
00:24:34,652 --> 00:24:35,686
[SIGHS]
425
00:24:35,819 --> 00:24:37,821
You shouldn't have done that.
426
00:24:37,954 --> 00:24:39,456
You know we have to work with them.
427
00:24:40,404 --> 00:24:41,458
Yeah, well...
428
00:24:41,592 --> 00:24:43,995
good luck with that, Steve.
429
00:24:59,992 --> 00:25:03,697
Rachel? This is how I'd like to
ration out the food and water.
430
00:25:04,261 --> 00:25:05,495
Can you take care of that?
431
00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:07,167
No one's gonna be happy with this.
432
00:25:07,245 --> 00:25:10,335
Well, if they don't like it,
they're welcome to leave.
433
00:25:12,027 --> 00:25:15,231
Steve. Steve, did you get
any news about the milk?
434
00:25:15,365 --> 00:25:19,769
Yeah. I'm... I'm...
I'm working on it. I promise.
435
00:25:19,902 --> 00:25:21,946
Hey, Steve, have you had a chance
to talk to the FBI about Perry?
436
00:25:22,009 --> 00:25:25,542
Look, Thibs, just bury the body
like I asked you. Okay?
437
00:25:31,413 --> 00:25:33,349
- [GARY] You get bacon on yours?
- [WALTER] Yeah.
438
00:25:33,482 --> 00:25:37,220
Oh. I shoulda gotten bacon on mine.
439
00:25:38,889 --> 00:25:42,158
You know, that's how we stopped
the Clarksville prison riot.
440
00:25:42,292 --> 00:25:44,127
- With bacon?
- Oh, yeah.
441
00:25:45,194 --> 00:25:48,364
It was after day eight,
and we took a bunch of bacon
442
00:25:48,498 --> 00:25:50,668
and threw it on some coals.
443
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,703
The prisoners smelled it and were
instantly overcome with hunger.
444
00:25:53,836 --> 00:25:55,044
And I told them,
445
00:25:55,083 --> 00:25:57,232
if they came out, they could eat
as much as they want.
446
00:25:58,342 --> 00:26:01,711
Never underestimate what a
hungry man will do for bacon.
447
00:26:01,844 --> 00:26:03,579
Shame the Davidians don't eat pork.
448
00:26:03,712 --> 00:26:05,281
- It is.
- [CHUCKLES]
449
00:26:07,517 --> 00:26:09,518
[MAN ON RADIO] We've got movement
outside the compound.
450
00:26:09,652 --> 00:26:11,454
- All agents to their posts.
- Shit.
451
00:26:11,587 --> 00:26:13,324
Prepare to fire on command.
452
00:26:14,223 --> 00:26:15,791
[PHONE RINGS]
453
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:18,494
- It's Steve.
- Steve! What's going on?
454
00:26:18,628 --> 00:26:20,672
Tactical says
someone exited the compound.
455
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,700
Shit!
456
00:26:29,105 --> 00:26:31,007
It's Thibodeau. He's unarmed!
457
00:26:31,141 --> 00:26:33,844
He's just trying to bury a body.
Please don't shoot him!
458
00:26:33,977 --> 00:26:35,078
Okay, hang on, Steve.
459
00:26:35,210 --> 00:26:37,046
- Where's Decker?
- I don't know.
460
00:26:38,382 --> 00:26:40,750
[DISPATCHER] Copy sniper one,
sniper one, you got the loop.
461
00:26:46,722 --> 00:26:49,526
- [WAYNE] Steve!
- Get out of my way!
462
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,962
Thibs! You gotta get back in here!
463
00:27:00,603 --> 00:27:02,104
Tell your man to stand down!
464
00:27:02,238 --> 00:27:04,575
This is a tactical decision.
It's not your call, Gary.
465
00:27:04,708 --> 00:27:06,610
No, no. He's just trying to bury a body.
466
00:27:06,742 --> 00:27:08,443
And I'm telling you, you don't
know what he's burying.
467
00:27:08,577 --> 00:27:09,913
That could be a bomb, for all we know.
468
00:27:10,046 --> 00:27:11,681
Damn it, I'm telling you,
the kid's unarmed.
469
00:27:11,815 --> 00:27:13,315
And I'm telling you,
you don't know that, Gary.
470
00:27:13,450 --> 00:27:15,751
Now, I can't have people
strolling outside,
471
00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:18,087
walking around, looking
at our positions on things.
472
00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:20,390
The kid is trying to bury
one of his dead, Mitch.
473
00:27:20,524 --> 00:27:24,561
They let the ATF take their wounded away.
Show 'em the same respect.
474
00:27:24,694 --> 00:27:28,163
They lost my respect when they started
killing federal agents, Gary.
475
00:27:28,297 --> 00:27:30,599
All right, all right. You want
another Ruby Ridge on your hands?
476
00:27:30,734 --> 00:27:32,436
- Yeah.
- Go ahead, shoot that boy.
477
00:27:32,568 --> 00:27:34,103
But just remember,
the ATF's not gonna be around
478
00:27:34,237 --> 00:27:36,473
- to take the blame this time!
- I don't give a shit!
479
00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:43,012
Requesting permission
to take the shot. Over.
480
00:27:44,381 --> 00:27:46,682
[SNIPER] I have the target in my view.
481
00:27:46,815 --> 00:27:48,786
[MUTTERS]
482
00:27:50,353 --> 00:27:54,691
Repeat, requesting permission
to take the shot. Over.
483
00:28:00,497 --> 00:28:01,832
Stand down.
484
00:28:25,710 --> 00:28:27,556
Thank you. Good morning, everyone.
485
00:28:28,324 --> 00:28:30,524
A few days ago, the FBI learned
486
00:28:30,572 --> 00:28:33,103
that the Branch Davidians
ran out of milk.
487
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:35,733
And they are no longer able
to feed their children.
488
00:28:35,865 --> 00:28:37,533
Nice of them to tell the truth for once.
489
00:28:37,667 --> 00:28:39,402
Numerous attempts have been
made by the FBI
490
00:28:39,536 --> 00:28:41,772
to deliver milk for their babies,
491
00:28:41,904 --> 00:28:43,373
but they have all been refused.
492
00:28:44,207 --> 00:28:48,579
It seems they are using their own
children as pawns in this thing.
493
00:28:49,379 --> 00:28:51,481
David Koresh...
494
00:28:52,282 --> 00:28:54,484
let us bring milk to those children.
495
00:28:54,616 --> 00:28:57,820
Pawns, Gary?
We're using our kids as pawns?
496
00:28:57,955 --> 00:29:00,290
- Is that what you think?
- No, it's not.
497
00:29:00,423 --> 00:29:02,124
Then why are they saying that on TV?
498
00:29:02,892 --> 00:29:04,695
- I don't know.
- Your boss said
499
00:29:04,827 --> 00:29:06,863
they have made attempts to deliver milk.
500
00:29:06,996 --> 00:29:09,466
Now, when did that happen? Because
we've been here the entire time,
501
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,769
and I don't recall anyone
knocking on our door!
502
00:29:12,769 --> 00:29:15,937
Steve, look. I wanna get you that milk.
That's the God's honest truth.
503
00:29:16,072 --> 00:29:18,708
But you're gonna have to let out
some of the kids in return.
504
00:29:18,842 --> 00:29:21,143
I'm sorry, Gary.
That's not gonna happen.
505
00:29:22,276 --> 00:29:23,579
- [LINE CLICKS]
- [SIGHS]
506
00:29:26,315 --> 00:29:27,717
[SIGHS]
507
00:29:27,851 --> 00:29:30,152
[REPORTER] With cult leader David Koresh
508
00:29:30,286 --> 00:29:32,288
becoming less involved
in direct negotiations,
509
00:29:32,421 --> 00:29:35,793
authorities suspect
his wounds may be getting worse.
510
00:29:35,925 --> 00:29:40,028
Agents told cult members that those
not charged with serious offenses
511
00:29:40,162 --> 00:29:42,798
eventually will be allowed
to return to the compound
512
00:29:42,931 --> 00:29:45,267
once it's cleared of the crime scene.
513
00:29:45,401 --> 00:29:48,438
- Sheriff Harwell?
- Yeah?
514
00:29:48,571 --> 00:29:51,442
I'm Gary Noesner, Head Negotiator, FBI.
515
00:29:52,308 --> 00:29:54,710
Mm. Can I help you?
516
00:29:55,879 --> 00:29:58,015
- You mind?
- [MURMURS]
517
00:30:00,350 --> 00:30:01,751
Well...
518
00:30:02,616 --> 00:30:04,397
when I can't get a guy to trust me,
519
00:30:04,436 --> 00:30:06,577
I try and find someone he will trust.
520
00:30:08,290 --> 00:30:10,460
And David Koresh trusts you.
521
00:30:11,228 --> 00:30:12,129
Mm.
522
00:30:14,363 --> 00:30:15,833
I could really use your help.
523
00:30:19,768 --> 00:30:21,403
[PHONE RINGING]
524
00:30:21,537 --> 00:30:22,873
[GRUNTS]
525
00:30:23,739 --> 00:30:25,575
[RINGING CONTINUES]
526
00:30:28,879 --> 00:30:33,183
- [GROANS] This is David.
- David, it's Sheriff Harwell.
527
00:30:33,316 --> 00:30:34,884
[SIGHS]
528
00:30:35,652 --> 00:30:36,953
Hey, Jack.
529
00:30:38,188 --> 00:30:40,523
Sure is nice to hear a friendly voice.
530
00:30:40,655 --> 00:30:43,960
David, I came down here today
531
00:30:44,094 --> 00:30:46,696
because I wanna make sure that those
babies get the milk they need.
532
00:30:47,463 --> 00:30:49,046
Well, they said on the news
533
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:51,640
it was us refusing
to make this happen, Jack.
534
00:30:52,453 --> 00:30:53,937
It's just...
535
00:30:55,505 --> 00:30:58,274
these are our children
they're asking us to give up.
536
00:30:58,408 --> 00:30:59,976
I understand, but...
537
00:31:00,110 --> 00:31:03,413
it might not be the worst thing
to get the babies fed,
538
00:31:03,546 --> 00:31:07,316
and at the same time, get some of
your other kids out of harm's way.
539
00:31:08,084 --> 00:31:11,220
- You know what I'm saying?
- Yeah, I do.
540
00:31:11,354 --> 00:31:15,258
Good. Now, David, how much milk
do you think you need?
541
00:31:17,326 --> 00:31:19,997
- Six gallons will do.
- All right.
542
00:31:20,764 --> 00:31:22,799
Now, David, I'm gonna get ya
the six gallons,
543
00:31:22,932 --> 00:31:24,711
but you gotta keep a level head in this
544
00:31:24,735 --> 00:31:26,570
while we try to resolve this thing.
545
00:31:27,069 --> 00:31:29,939
Thank you, Jack. You're a good man.
546
00:31:31,574 --> 00:31:34,544
Look, I just don't think we
should make it so easy on 'em.
547
00:31:34,677 --> 00:31:36,613
Jesus. You think we made it easy on 'em?
548
00:31:36,746 --> 00:31:39,349
They agreed to send their
kids out, for Christ's sake.
549
00:31:39,481 --> 00:31:42,418
Right now, the only card we have
to play is creating goodwill.
550
00:31:42,552 --> 00:31:46,122
No, it's not.
That's your only card, Gary.
551
00:31:46,256 --> 00:31:47,556
[SIGHS]
552
00:31:48,357 --> 00:31:50,661
[GARY] Look, the people
they're sending out won't talk.
553
00:31:50,794 --> 00:31:53,229
And we have no idea
what's going on in there...
554
00:31:53,363 --> 00:31:54,663
what they're planning to do.
555
00:31:54,797 --> 00:31:56,632
All right. What's your point, Noesner?
556
00:31:56,767 --> 00:31:59,902
If we send the milk in
and bug it somehow...
557
00:32:00,036 --> 00:32:01,770
we'll have ears inside.
558
00:32:03,238 --> 00:32:07,810
That'll help me with negotiations,
and Mitch, tactically.
559
00:32:18,130 --> 00:32:19,189
Do it.
560
00:32:33,596 --> 00:32:37,902
_
561
00:32:38,863 --> 00:32:40,732
- Judy, you need...
- Shh.
562
00:32:40,867 --> 00:32:42,468
[WHISPERS] Just got her to sleep.
563
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,902
What's going on?
564
00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:46,899
- Are there more people going?
- Yeah.
565
00:32:47,532 --> 00:32:49,267
And I want you and Mayanah
to be two of 'em.
566
00:32:49,401 --> 00:32:51,436
No. I already told you, Steve.
I can't go...
567
00:32:51,569 --> 00:32:53,966
Well, this is not about you anymore.
This is about Mayanah.
568
00:32:54,673 --> 00:32:57,896
You asked me to look out for her
like she was my own.
569
00:32:58,004 --> 00:33:00,746
Well, that's what I'm doing.
This is what that looks like.
570
00:33:00,794 --> 00:33:02,429
I don't trust the people
out there, though, Steve.
571
00:33:02,563 --> 00:33:04,065
I don't trust them.
572
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,368
I know.
573
00:33:08,336 --> 00:33:11,974
What about you? I can't leave you.
574
00:33:13,742 --> 00:33:14,976
I should stay.
575
00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:23,151
- It's the right thing to do.
- [JUDY SIGHS]
576
00:33:23,985 --> 00:33:27,487
Hey, Luke. I'm gonna miss
that inquisitive mind.
577
00:33:27,621 --> 00:33:31,192
I want you to take care of your mama.
All right, give me a hug.
578
00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:34,029
[DAVID] Okay.
579
00:33:46,342 --> 00:33:47,575
All right.
580
00:33:48,577 --> 00:33:51,279
What are Judy and Mayanah
doing in the hallway?
581
00:33:51,413 --> 00:33:52,815
'Cause they're leaving.
582
00:33:54,782 --> 00:33:56,851
Six gallons. Bugs are in the crate.
583
00:33:56,984 --> 00:33:58,887
Need a vest?
584
00:34:00,088 --> 00:34:02,057
They don't wanna shoot me.
585
00:34:03,490 --> 00:34:05,193
All right.
586
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:10,999
[DAVID GRUNTS] Is that everyone?
587
00:34:14,836 --> 00:34:18,173
Um, Dave, I'd like you to send out...
588
00:34:18,939 --> 00:34:20,742
Judy and Mayanah.
589
00:34:22,611 --> 00:34:23,846
No.
590
00:34:24,611 --> 00:34:26,013
I can't do that.
591
00:34:28,416 --> 00:34:30,051
[FAINTLY] Okay.
592
00:34:32,988 --> 00:34:35,323
You know, I've never asked you
for anything.
593
00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:39,754
In all the years I've known you,
594
00:34:39,801 --> 00:34:42,051
everything I have done has been for you.
595
00:34:43,497 --> 00:34:47,935
Please, David.
I'm asking you this one thing.
596
00:34:49,437 --> 00:34:51,272
And I'll talk to Judy.
597
00:34:51,405 --> 00:34:54,208
She can just tell them that...
that Mayanah is my daughter.
598
00:34:58,946 --> 00:35:00,515
But, Steve...
599
00:35:01,615 --> 00:35:04,151
she's not your daughter.
600
00:35:04,285 --> 00:35:06,021
She's mine.
601
00:35:12,292 --> 00:35:14,195
Right.
602
00:35:14,995 --> 00:35:16,164
[FAINTLY] Right.
603
00:35:20,968 --> 00:35:22,169
I wanna stay with you.
604
00:35:22,303 --> 00:35:24,204
Oh, I wanna stay with you, too, baby.
605
00:35:24,338 --> 00:35:26,206
- But God wants me to stay here.
- [CHILD] Mommy...?
606
00:35:26,341 --> 00:35:30,112
And I need to keep you safe, okay?
607
00:35:39,187 --> 00:35:41,490
You're the greatest gift
God ever gave me.
608
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:05,580
[STEVE] Let's go.
609
00:36:15,122 --> 00:36:18,292
Hey, guys. Right up here.
610
00:36:19,060 --> 00:36:20,894
- You got it? Come here.
- [CHILD WHIMPERS]
611
00:36:21,028 --> 00:36:25,033
Come here, buddy. Come here. Come here.
Let's go. Come on with me.
612
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,269
How many guns you think they're
pointing at us right now?
613
00:36:29,070 --> 00:36:31,872
- I bet a lot.
- [WAYNE CHUCKLES]
614
00:36:49,024 --> 00:36:53,661
- Steve, hi. Wayne, Gary Noesner.
- Hey.
615
00:36:54,461 --> 00:36:56,897
- [GARY] Hi.
- Yeah, I've seen your video.
616
00:36:57,932 --> 00:37:00,301
But I'm sure I'm much
better-looking in person, right?
617
00:37:00,434 --> 00:37:03,670
Let's just say that you got
a pretty good face for radio.
618
00:37:03,803 --> 00:37:06,807
- [CHUCKLING]
- Could we just get this over with?
619
00:37:06,941 --> 00:37:08,576
Yeah, sure. I'm sorry.
620
00:37:08,709 --> 00:37:10,979
Steve, can I talk to you for
a minute, just you and I?
621
00:37:11,812 --> 00:37:13,649
Yeah. It's okay.
622
00:37:19,553 --> 00:37:22,657
You need to know your people are in
a lot more danger than you think.
623
00:37:25,258 --> 00:37:27,861
And in my experience, the longer
these situations go on,
624
00:37:27,995 --> 00:37:30,231
the more erratic people's behavior gets.
625
00:37:31,198 --> 00:37:32,966
Yeah, we're seeing that
on our side, too.
626
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:34,635
Uh-huh.
627
00:37:36,671 --> 00:37:39,274
- Can I ask you something, Steve?
- Yeah.
628
00:37:40,207 --> 00:37:41,976
Whose child is Mayanah?
629
00:37:45,579 --> 00:37:47,681
We've all made
a lot of sacrifices to be here.
630
00:37:47,814 --> 00:37:51,751
- She's David's child, isn't she?
- I made a choice.
631
00:37:51,885 --> 00:37:53,554
Judy made a choice.
632
00:37:56,256 --> 00:37:58,659
How is she, Judy? I heard she was shot.
633
00:38:00,193 --> 00:38:01,929
- She's fine.
- She's fine?
634
00:38:02,062 --> 00:38:04,932
She has a bullet in her, and her
baby needs milk, but she's fine?
635
00:38:05,066 --> 00:38:07,635
She's still in there. Why is that?
636
00:38:08,602 --> 00:38:12,240
- Because we made a decision together...
- No. No, I think
637
00:38:12,372 --> 00:38:14,307
David was the one
who made that decision, not you.
638
00:38:14,441 --> 00:38:16,378
I think if it were up to you,
639
00:38:16,510 --> 00:38:19,547
Judy would be in that vehicle
right now, with Mayanah.
640
00:38:21,983 --> 00:38:23,251
Am I wrong?
641
00:38:25,887 --> 00:38:27,722
Now, look, Steve,
the thing you gotta realize
642
00:38:27,854 --> 00:38:31,191
is that you do have the power
to make your own decisions.
643
00:38:32,158 --> 00:38:36,263
Decisions for you, for Judy, for
Mayanah, for everyone in there
644
00:38:36,397 --> 00:38:40,001
who is waiting for someone to find
the courage to lead them out.
645
00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:45,807
You know, it's funny... I can't tell you
646
00:38:45,941 --> 00:38:47,975
how many times
I wanted to leave this place.
647
00:38:48,742 --> 00:38:52,480
And all the fire ants
and the dust storms...
648
00:38:53,548 --> 00:38:55,383
and David.
649
00:38:56,184 --> 00:38:59,321
Oh, you're right. David's horrible.
650
00:39:00,321 --> 00:39:02,524
Self-centered, rude.
651
00:39:03,490 --> 00:39:07,594
I wish that God would have chosen
652
00:39:07,727 --> 00:39:13,001
any other person on the earth
to speak through instead of him.
653
00:39:14,234 --> 00:39:15,903
But you know what?
654
00:39:16,671 --> 00:39:18,272
Despite everything you're saying,
655
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:22,543
no one's explained to me
what we did to deserve all this.
656
00:39:24,745 --> 00:39:27,682
You know, you have the power
to end this, too.
657
00:39:28,649 --> 00:39:30,318
How's that?
658
00:39:32,419 --> 00:39:34,188
You could just leave.
659
00:39:37,925 --> 00:39:39,693
We weren't bothering anybody.
660
00:39:48,102 --> 00:39:49,470
Yeah, I know.
661
00:39:53,475 --> 00:39:55,043
Thanks for the milk.
662
00:40:04,922 --> 00:40:06,223
[CAMERA WHIRRING]
663
00:40:07,122 --> 00:40:09,592
All right. We're rolling.
664
00:40:10,686 --> 00:40:11,887
[DAVID] Okay.
665
00:40:13,662 --> 00:40:16,032
Say whatever you wanna say.
666
00:40:18,635 --> 00:40:20,137
Well...
667
00:40:22,905 --> 00:40:26,376
I just wanna say
thanks a lot for killing my dad.
668
00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:30,480
My dad's name was Perry Jones.
669
00:40:31,548 --> 00:40:33,550
[RACHEL] He was an unarmed man.
670
00:40:34,850 --> 00:40:36,220
And...
671
00:40:38,388 --> 00:40:41,224
you just shot him
through the door, so...
672
00:40:43,727 --> 00:40:44,762
thanks a lot.
673
00:40:51,667 --> 00:40:54,805
- And thanks for the milk.
- Yeah, thanks for the milk.
674
00:41:01,010 --> 00:41:03,580
- [SNIFFLES]
- [DAVID SIGHS]
675
00:41:05,816 --> 00:41:07,184
[GRUNTS]
676
00:41:10,888 --> 00:41:12,389
Wow.
677
00:41:13,155 --> 00:41:14,623
Is it bleeding again?
678
00:41:14,756 --> 00:41:18,093
- It's all over the pillow.
- [DAVID SIGHS] Well...
679
00:41:18,227 --> 00:41:21,164
it ain't nothing
for a tough guy like me.
680
00:41:22,031 --> 00:41:23,533
[CHUCKLES]
681
00:41:24,409 --> 00:41:27,261
A lot of beliefs people have
may seem abnormal
682
00:41:27,285 --> 00:41:28,589
or strange to other people,
683
00:41:28,628 --> 00:41:30,874
but that doesn't mean
it's not right, though.
684
00:41:31,874 --> 00:41:35,911
God speaks to me.
I have a message to present.
685
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,415
And you may not believe that.
686
00:41:39,483 --> 00:41:41,618
If you don't believe that,
then believe this,
687
00:41:41,751 --> 00:41:44,455
irrespective of God speaking to me.
688
00:41:47,858 --> 00:41:49,559
See this here?
689
00:41:50,526 --> 00:41:54,798
This is my family.
May not be like your family.
690
00:41:55,631 --> 00:41:57,667
But you come pointing guns
691
00:41:57,801 --> 00:42:01,204
in the direction
of my wives and my kids?
692
00:42:01,972 --> 00:42:07,211
Damn it, I will meet you
at the door any time.
693
00:42:09,812 --> 00:42:12,383
I'm sorry some of you guys got shot.
694
00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:15,185
But, hey...
695
00:42:17,452 --> 00:42:20,356
God'll have to sort that out, won't He?
696
00:42:22,024 --> 00:42:23,327
[CLICKS]
697
00:42:25,595 --> 00:42:27,698
You still think
you can reason with this guy?
698
00:42:39,108 --> 00:42:40,611
What are you gonna do with that?
699
00:42:43,914 --> 00:42:47,718
Can't let this get out.
Makes him look too normal.
700
00:42:52,289 --> 00:42:53,656
[SIGHS]
701
00:42:53,789 --> 00:42:55,892
- [VOICES OVERLAPPING]
- [CAR HORNS HONKING]
702
00:42:57,995 --> 00:42:59,229
[SIGHS]
703
00:42:59,997 --> 00:43:01,932
[SIREN WHOOPS]
704
00:43:01,933 --> 00:43:03,182
_
705
00:43:03,221 --> 00:43:05,234
[VOICES YELLING]
706
00:43:11,508 --> 00:43:13,510
Your boy's alive.
707
00:43:16,211 --> 00:43:19,416
Thank you. Thank you.
708
00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:28,425
Okay.
709
00:43:31,961 --> 00:43:34,825
I wanted to thank you, Steve.
710
00:43:37,325 --> 00:43:38,723
For what?
711
00:43:38,834 --> 00:43:41,437
Taking care of everyone when I was down.
712
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:44,741
And for not leaving.
713
00:43:45,609 --> 00:43:48,278
I know you've been having your doubts.
714
00:43:49,046 --> 00:43:50,347
I understand.
715
00:43:51,381 --> 00:43:55,551
Heck... I've had my own, too.
716
00:44:05,627 --> 00:44:08,432
- You need something?
- Yeah.
717
00:44:10,166 --> 00:44:12,635
- Glass of milk would be nice.
- [LAUGHING]
718
00:44:15,004 --> 00:44:18,908
- No, that's for the kids, David.
- I know it is,
719
00:44:19,041 --> 00:44:21,611
but I just escaped death
by the grace of God,
720
00:44:21,745 --> 00:44:25,147
and to be honest with you,
milk would do us good.
721
00:44:25,281 --> 00:44:26,649
No one'll know, Steve.
722
00:44:26,783 --> 00:44:28,318
[STEVE] Glass of milk, I have to admit,
723
00:44:28,450 --> 00:44:30,627
would be pretty good right about now.
724
00:44:30,682 --> 00:44:32,564
[DAVID] That's a yes.
725
00:44:32,622 --> 00:44:34,925
Gonna be the best glass of milk
we've ever had.
726
00:44:43,166 --> 00:44:47,771
They don't give a shit about those kids.
When are you gonna see it?
727
00:44:48,738 --> 00:44:50,205
I see it.
728
00:44:50,339 --> 00:44:53,075
The only thing people like this
respond to is pressure.
729
00:44:53,209 --> 00:44:55,912
Does it feel like they have
any pressure on them to you?
730
00:44:56,678 --> 00:45:00,215
- They sure don't.
- We been here, what, eight days?
731
00:45:00,349 --> 00:45:03,653
The only thing we have to show
for it is, what, 19 people?
732
00:45:04,687 --> 00:45:07,023
We keep up at this rate,
we'll be here till Christmas.
733
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:09,458
[SIGHS]
734
00:45:09,591 --> 00:45:11,294
You been letting Gary do his thing.
735
00:45:12,062 --> 00:45:14,565
How 'bout you let me do
a little of mine?
736
00:45:16,625 --> 00:45:18,271
[RON] And Bubba might say,
737
00:45:18,295 --> 00:45:20,646
"But ain't they messin'
with young girls in there?"
738
00:45:20,702 --> 00:45:22,705
And I got this to say to Bubba.
739
00:45:24,006 --> 00:45:27,977
The ATF has no jurisdiction
in matters of young girls.
740
00:45:28,111 --> 00:45:32,397
Or sex, or polygamy, or anything
else they're talking about.
741
00:45:32,475 --> 00:45:34,417
It's none of their damn business.
742
00:45:34,551 --> 00:45:36,119
Their business...
743
00:45:36,251 --> 00:45:40,689
is alcohol, tobacco,
and firearms. Period.
744
00:45:42,210 --> 00:45:46,213
And yes, David Koresh did marry
his wife when she was 14.
745
00:45:46,316 --> 00:45:47,763
And you might have feelings about that,
746
00:45:47,896 --> 00:45:49,798
just like I have feelings
about that myself.
747
00:45:49,932 --> 00:45:52,868
I have a daughter.
I find the idea reprehensible.
748
00:45:53,002 --> 00:45:55,437
[RON] But according to Texas law,
749
00:45:55,571 --> 00:46:00,343
it is legal to marry a 14-year-old
if her parents give consent.
750
00:46:01,109 --> 00:46:03,945
Which, again, I am not saying is right.
751
00:46:04,713 --> 00:46:06,582
But I am saying,
if you have a problem with it,
752
00:46:06,716 --> 00:46:09,553
your problem is actually with Texas law.
753
00:46:10,452 --> 00:46:11,521
Not David Koresh.
754
00:46:11,655 --> 00:46:13,089
[ENGINE STOPS]
755
00:46:13,856 --> 00:46:16,192
[REPORTER] The Branch Davidians have
hung a sheet outside the window
756
00:46:16,325 --> 00:46:17,827
saying they want the press.
757
00:46:17,961 --> 00:46:20,597
Reporters have their own take
on the sign.
758
00:46:20,729 --> 00:46:23,233
[ALL] God help us, we are the press!
759
00:46:23,365 --> 00:46:26,479
[REPORTER 2] ...siege against the
Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas.
760
00:46:26,542 --> 00:46:28,412
And raise similar questions about the...
761
00:46:28,537 --> 00:46:31,306
I just don't understand why
they won't let us talk to them.
762
00:46:31,441 --> 00:46:33,109
[REPORTER] Ma'am,
if your son were here right...
763
00:46:33,242 --> 00:46:34,678
No, no. Go back.
764
00:46:34,810 --> 00:46:36,711
[MAN] ...web surrounded this house...
765
00:46:36,845 --> 00:46:38,249
[REPORTER] What would you want
to tell him?
766
00:46:38,327 --> 00:46:39,475
If you want to look
in the camera and speak to him,
767
00:46:39,536 --> 00:46:40,702
what would you want to say to him?
768
00:46:40,759 --> 00:46:41,928
Do you know her?
769
00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:44,921
That's my mom.
770
00:46:45,053 --> 00:46:47,490
Dave, honey...
771
00:46:49,254 --> 00:46:53,479
I know the last time you were
home, I didn't listen very well.
772
00:46:53,562 --> 00:46:57,066
I... I got my issues
with the Bible and stuff.
773
00:46:57,834 --> 00:47:00,303
And I know that you got a group in there
774
00:47:00,437 --> 00:47:03,540
that you really care about,
and they're like family.
775
00:47:05,408 --> 00:47:09,154
But I'm your family. And you're
the only family I've got.
776
00:47:09,217 --> 00:47:10,225
[SNIFFLES]
777
00:47:10,249 --> 00:47:13,264
And if anything ever happened to you,
I don't know what I'd do.
778
00:47:13,381 --> 00:47:14,649
[SOBS]
779
00:47:14,783 --> 00:47:16,752
Thank you.
780
00:47:16,887 --> 00:47:19,822
Dave, please? Come out.
781
00:47:19,899 --> 00:47:23,500
And I promise I'm gonna be
a better listener, okay?
782
00:47:24,993 --> 00:47:27,497
I promise I'm gonna be a better mother.
783
00:47:29,671 --> 00:47:32,052
So, please, just come on out.
784
00:47:33,171 --> 00:47:35,474
[BALENDA SNIFFLES, SOBS]
Thank you. Thank you so much.
785
00:47:35,537 --> 00:47:36,572
[POPS]
786
00:47:37,372 --> 00:47:40,510
- [DAVID] Everyone stay calm.
- [RACHEL] What happened?
787
00:48:06,186 --> 00:48:11,186
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