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[solemn instrumental music
playing]
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All right. It looks like
we're good to go in here.
You ready?
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[Satya]
Very few relationships in Hollywood last 47 years,
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the amount of time that Dennis and I spent together.
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That is professional relationships, artistic relationships,
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marital relationships.
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You name it.
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Hollywood is the destroyer
of relationships.
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I was loyal to him just like--
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He would object to it, but Cheech & Chong,
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or Abbott and Costello.
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And he was always loyal to me,
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even even when I put my foot in my mouth.
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And I appreciate the legacy that Dennis left me.
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and left all of us.
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He did everything well,
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like most geniuses do.
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I'm Satya De La Manitou.
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For decades I was
Dennis Hopper's
right hand man,
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aka, el hombre indivisible.
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[guitar music playing]
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[phone line ringing]
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It's Satya.
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I can't wait to see you.
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I'm coming to New Mexico
the first week
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of September and we're making a film.
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Love you to participate.
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It won't be the same if you don't.
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You know, now that
I'm trying to remember,
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how did we meet?
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Oh, yeah.
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I think it was
New Year's Eve, 1970.
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-The Star Seed.
-[Satya] Right.
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[David] We had an acid party every New Year's Eve,
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-and we were all there. -[Satya] There you go.
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Stars fell and all that.
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[David] There's this guy out there, little--
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Not a little guy, but real skinny guy,
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eyes spinning,
with a fifth of tequila.
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-Right. Right.
-Dancing.
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I said, "Who is that?"
"That's Satya."
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Next thing I knew you were part of the family.
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You went over...
How many countries did you
go to with him?
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A lot of countries
we went to.
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I remember you guys
coming back dead tired and
telling horror stories.
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Horror stories of every place
was like fucked up somehow.
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[laughing]
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Dennis,
like most celebrities,
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never answered his
own phone,
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never picked up his own mail,
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never took care of his own correspondence.
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That was left for me to do.
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That's why I have
so many of these boxes
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that say "Dennis Hopper"
in my possession.
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Like, let's see what
this is.
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This is...
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Winkleman Film Production.
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"Dear Dennis..."
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This is a German company
in Dortmund.
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What's this?
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Uh...
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True Romance.
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This is the original,
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sent to Dennis by True Romance
Productions Tony Scott.
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This hasn't been opened
in many a moon.
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[chuckles]
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A blast from the past.
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This is the soundtrack album
from a documentary
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called The American Dreamer.
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This album is from
the Cocaine Cowboy days.
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Back in Taos.
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If you'll notice, he's got
an automatic weapon,
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which was really necessary
at the time,
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because the natives were very combative.
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This is the Dennis Hopper that I knew,
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that I first came to become friends with.
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Before we go any further,
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I'd like it known that
I'm only a minor character
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in my own life story.
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I was in school, adrift.
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I took a course called "Classical Antiquity."
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Dr. Markoff, my professor, handed out the syllabus,
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and I said, "Dr. Markoff,
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I'm not getting anything out of this course.
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He said,
"Have you read Tolstoy?"
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I said...
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"I tried,
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but I could barely get through
the first 50 pages of
War and Peace.
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It was too voluminous
for me, Professor."
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He said, "That's not the book
I was gonna recommend
to you."
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I said, "Please, what is it?"
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He said, "There's another book,
What Is Art?"
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A light bulb went off in my head.
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He touched on the critical word,
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"art."
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That's what I was interested in.
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I immediately went to the Guggenheim Library.
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After reading the book,
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I can distill its essence into one sentence.
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"Art is the effect of
transmission of experience."
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I found my way to New Buffalo,
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New Mexico's oldest commune.
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There was a radiant image in front of me.
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A woman so beautiful I had to obtain her.
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I had to cherish her.
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Well, the house went up, and so did my life.
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That was the paththe yellow brick road led to.
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[country song playing]
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One day,this monster truck approached.
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Who's in it? A bunch of Hollywood types, led by...
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the artist that was to becomemy lifelong friend,Dennis Hopper.
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Dennis jumped out
and said,
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"Boy, we'd love
to shoot here."
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And I said, "What do you got there?"
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And he said, "I got a psychedelic here."
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I said, "Let me see that."
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And he handed me the jar,
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and I disappeared with the acid.
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Later, he confronted me and said,
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"What happened
to the acid?"
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I said, "I gave it out
to all the other communers."
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And he said, "Well, that was the right thing to do."
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And...
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And it was.
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It takes courage
to be original.
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And for their originality,
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these films
have been nominated
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for Best Story and Screenplay.
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Easy Rider.
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[man] Story and screenplayby Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper,
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and Terry Southern.
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[Satya] Dennis Hopper directed, starred,
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and wrote the highest grossing
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independent feature of all time.
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Dennis affected world culture.
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The star, the writer,
the director...
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Everything he could be, he was and he is.
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[speaks indistinctly]
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Dennis Hopper.
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[audience applauding]
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[Dennis]
I wouldn't take direction.
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But anyway, I was blacklisted,
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and I had to sit in a chair
and make a decision
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whether I was gonna keep
getting drunk at parties,
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and telling people how I
was gonna make the great film
for 15 years,
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or whether I was gonna
really sit in the chair
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and really get it together
and try to figure it out.
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If I ever got out
of the chair,
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you know,
could I make a movie?
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[Satya] Let me put this into context for you.
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He could walk into any studio executive's office
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in a rarefied position,
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where every green lighter was anxious
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to be in his favor and work with him,
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and his passion project was The Last Movie.
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[Danny]
Dennis was very well versed
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in World Cinema.
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So, you know, when I'd mention
Godard, or Rene,
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or Luis Bunuel in particular,
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you know, Jean Renoir,
I mean, he knew
all these filmmakers.
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[host] How were you difficult
in the old days?
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Did you do marvelous
difficult things?
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Which area do you
want to get into?
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[host] The funniest.
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[all laughing]
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[Mike] Everybody else was following him,
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you know, and the studios were following him.
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I mean, he was, you know,
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the first one to
really break through.
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I mean, before Spielberg,
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before, you know,
George Lucas.
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You know, pretty much
at the same time as Francis,
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But Francis didn't break
through until Godfather.
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Dennis made an impression
on me.
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I thought Dennis Hopper
is not some hippie.
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He's somebody who's...
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This is another level.
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This is another level of artistry.
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He and I would always
see each other
through different friends.
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And he said, "I want you
to be my agent."
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So I represented him and Peter.
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And I started to get the smell of
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packaging movies
and producing them.
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We went to dinner,
or lunch actually,
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to Dr. Jules Stein's house.
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And there was a group of people there,
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and Dr. Stein said, "You see these two boys?
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They made
$30 million for Columbia,
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why aren't they at
Universal?"
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Let's put it this way.
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We did a picture at Universal next.
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[David]
The Big Black Tower everybody refers to,
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was in fact rather terrifyingin the 1960s.
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What was that Vice President
in charge of that program?
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Oh, the--
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-Big jock.
-At Universal?
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-[David] Yeah.
-[Satya] Uh...
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[David] Ned Tanen.
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[Danny] Ned Tanen had a way
of hunching over
behind his desk.
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He was on the 14th floor,
by the way,
of the Black Tower,
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in the office adjoining Lew Wasserman,
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which gives you an indicationof how powerful he was.
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Apparently Dr. Stein spoke
to Ned Tanen and said,
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"One of the first people
you should bring in
is Dennis Hopper,
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'cause he has a new project."
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So Ned took a meeting
with Dennis Hopper,
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and he said, "I have a great
script by Stewart Stern."
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We know Stewart Stern, he wasthe author of
Rebel Without a Cause.
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It was a really interesting, fresh movie.
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It was really good.
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I had other studios that
wanted to make The Last Movie.
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And I made the deal there.
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And not only did I get a final cut,
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but I also got him
the New York
and LA opening.
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We had done so well
with Easy Rider,
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that everybody was wanting
to do anything for us.
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So I said, "Where are you
gonna shoot?" He said, "Peru."
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I said, "Well, that's great.
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You know, we have a budget
of a million dollars."
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He said, "Oh, we can
make this for three quarters
of a million."
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[Paul]
We got down there.
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And across the street is this shop with all these pictures on it
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of tourist places to go.
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We walk in there and
Dennis is with his usual
thing, and he goes,
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"I wanna see this place."
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That happened to be Chinchero.
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And Dennis fell in love with the place.
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[David]
Nothing was there, really.
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You know, there'd never been a major motion picture down there,
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so it was shipping...
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We were 75 people.
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All this equipment to Lima,
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and over the mountains into Cusco, and arranging for this.
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[Russ] It was kind of funny.
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I remember that on the...
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on the plane going there,
we were all,
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you know, rebel actors.
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Michelle Phillips, and Peter Fonda and myself.
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And somebody lit up a joint
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and started passing it aroundon the plane.
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And it was a regular commercial plane.
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And then, finally a stewardess
came racing down the aisle,
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and said,
"Put that out, you know."
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"Are you sure
you don't want some?"
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[Paul] We were just amazed that it was so perfect for what we wanted to do.
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All we had to do was put somefalse fronts on a few places
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and make it work.
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I loved the script.
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I'm sorry in many ways
sometimes we didn't
shoot the script in a sense.
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We shot what the script indicated,
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but not necessarily the script.
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He was a star from Easy Rider.
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You know, he was
getting the magazines.
254
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He had it all. He had it all.
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[Michael]
I was Rolling Stone's first film critic.
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It became clear to me
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as I watched the filming
going on,
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that this was a work of art
being assembled,
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and that almost everybody involved was aware of that.
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It wasn't just like,
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touristical filmmaker comes into shoot a movie
262
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where it'll be scenic.
263
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It was far deeper than that.
264
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[Stella] Dennis was the director to work with.
265
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You know, he was directing, writing, editing.
266
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And he took this film
to heart.
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It was his baby.
268
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And that tells you a lot.
269
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I remember the movie with a lot of love.
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Hey, he gave me my first big chance.
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[music playing]
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♪ In just six days ♪
273
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♪ The Lord made the world ♪
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♪ And while He rested ♪
275
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♪ The Devil made Hell ♪
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♪ Once I walked ♪
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♪ Out in the sun ♪
278
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We were a little stoned
at times, I must say.
279
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Everybody was dropping. I mean, it was...
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Peru was like a candy store.
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Kris Kristofferson wrote
Me and Bobby McGee
on that movie.
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[David]
And also, we were inside the line of the Revolution.
283
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Where we made the film was the revolutionary Indian village.
284
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[Satya] Exactly.
285
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So, you know, the CIA
was on our crew.
286
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[laughing]
287
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It was unbelievable.
288
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But, what a beautiful place.
289
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What an incredible fun time it was.
290
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That place is easy
to turn on,
291
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but Dennis turned
the places on, man.
292
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And you'll find the inner and the outer, the bottom to the top there.
293
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[Satya laughing]
294
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Hey, hold it. Cut! Cut!
295
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What the goddamn hell's
the matter with you?
296
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Where the hell have
you been?
297
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I'm sorry, I didn't--
298
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[indistinct clamoring]
299
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Who hired him?
300
00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,927
[Sam] And I want it legitimate and different,
301
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and better than it's ever been done.
302
00:16:05,598 --> 00:16:07,398
When I squeeze off a couple of shots at you,
303
00:16:07,433 --> 00:16:09,367
you take it, hit it, and hit it hard.
304
00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:11,502
I want balls when you die.
305
00:16:11,537 --> 00:16:13,104
All right. Roll 'em.
306
00:16:13,139 --> 00:16:14,539
-[beeping]
-All right.
307
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Action.
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[Samantha]
And there's Sam and Dennis
going over a scene.
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And even though my father
didn't talk much
about his experience,
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he did write about it.
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In Sam's words,
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00:16:30,723 --> 00:16:34,191
"I accepted acting gigs whenever I could fit 'em into my schedule.
313
00:16:34,226 --> 00:16:37,828
And Dennis wanted me
to play the part of
a macho film director.
314
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A tongue-in-cheek parody of myself.
315
00:16:40,499 --> 00:16:44,268
The last movie was about a film production in Peru's back country.
316
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They're shooting a Western, while the natives observe
317
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the movie making process and wonder.
318
00:16:49,408 --> 00:16:52,243
The script was a sort of Pirandello approach
319
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to the clash between two cultures.
320
00:16:54,246 --> 00:17:00,384
Dennis wanted to showhow our sophisticated culturecould backfire."
321
00:17:00,419 --> 00:17:05,123
How would you describe your
working relationship with him
as an actor?
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00:17:06,292 --> 00:17:08,726
I enjoyed working with him
as an actor.
323
00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:10,728
I thought he was very good.
324
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,700
Dennis was a true maverick.
325
00:17:16,735 --> 00:17:21,706
And it was a wonderful feeling
that you had Dennis with you.
326
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It was not easy because of
the altitude primarily.
327
00:17:26,145 --> 00:17:27,878
It was easy
to work with Dennis.
328
00:17:27,913 --> 00:17:31,182
He was so focused on The Last Movie.
329
00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:33,785
We all thought, you know, this is gonna take off.
330
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[Russ]
At the end of the movie,
331
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we went down to Lima.
332
00:17:42,595 --> 00:17:45,362
And everybody was
snorting cocaine.
333
00:17:45,397 --> 00:17:47,131
And we got a call from Dennis.
334
00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:50,301
He calls and he says, "Listen.I hear, you guys,don't take any drugs with you,
335
00:17:50,336 --> 00:17:52,670
'cause I hear you're gonna be stopped and searched
336
00:17:52,705 --> 00:17:55,673
when you get to LA,when you go through Customs."
337
00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:58,008
So everybody was getting rid of their cocaine.
338
00:17:58,043 --> 00:18:01,178
They finally ended up pouring
a lot of it down the toilet.
339
00:18:01,213 --> 00:18:04,715
There was this white,
looked like snow,
going down the toilet.
340
00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:08,185
We finally got rid
of everything,
of all the cocaine.
341
00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:10,588
And we got to LA and they
passed everybody right through,
342
00:18:10,623 --> 00:18:12,289
and you could hear,
"Oh, shit!"
343
00:18:12,324 --> 00:18:13,491
He came back to LA--
344
00:18:13,526 --> 00:18:14,725
It sounds like
a gas, though.
345
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,893
Came back to LA,
and Dennis...
346
00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:18,062
Almost the whole cast
was wanted in LA anyway.
347
00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:20,698
We had... Dennis said,
you know, we were moving.
348
00:18:20,733 --> 00:18:23,667
And we moved to Towers
to edit the film,
349
00:18:23,702 --> 00:18:25,236
because he couldn't
do anything in LA.
350
00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:27,438
[music playing]
351
00:18:32,912 --> 00:18:36,347
[Satya] Dennis Hopper exposedme to personalities,
352
00:18:36,382 --> 00:18:39,250
artists and situations
353
00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:41,452
that heretofore were inaccessible.
354
00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:46,056
Upon Dennis' return from Peru
355
00:18:46,091 --> 00:18:47,992
to New Mexico,
356
00:18:48,027 --> 00:18:50,794
he set up an editing room
357
00:18:50,829 --> 00:18:52,530
in Mabel Dodge Luhan House,
358
00:18:52,565 --> 00:18:54,165
which he had acquired earlier.
359
00:18:56,101 --> 00:18:57,835
The Mabel Dodge House was
360
00:18:57,870 --> 00:19:01,839
the center of
an alternative culture.
361
00:19:01,874 --> 00:19:04,942
The place was
a beehive of activity.
362
00:19:04,977 --> 00:19:08,512
Dennis and I were
running buddies by then.
363
00:19:08,547 --> 00:19:11,816
And we did a lot
of partying.
364
00:19:13,219 --> 00:19:15,786
And the focus of all the activity was Dennis.
365
00:19:15,821 --> 00:19:18,322
Everybody wanted to have a beer with Dennis.
366
00:19:18,357 --> 00:19:20,758
Everyone wanted to share
a drink with Dennis.
367
00:19:20,793 --> 00:19:23,260
Everyone wanted to get
loaded with Dennis.
368
00:19:23,295 --> 00:19:24,361
[woman laughing]
369
00:19:24,396 --> 00:19:28,365
This is really the scene
that I... I...
370
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,568
God... man... deserve.
371
00:19:31,403 --> 00:19:34,471
That combined with
all the drinking
372
00:19:34,506 --> 00:19:37,875
and carousing...
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00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:43,014
I think really impeded
his ability to successfully
edit the film.
374
00:19:45,117 --> 00:19:49,053
Lawrence, you did
The American Dreamer
in New Mexico,
375
00:19:49,088 --> 00:19:52,756
obviously 'cause Dennis was in Taos cutting the last movie.
376
00:19:52,791 --> 00:19:54,959
You always
have to follow
377
00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:57,094
in essence where
the greatness is.
378
00:19:57,129 --> 00:20:01,131
And, you know, Dennis was
at his peak at that moment,
379
00:20:01,166 --> 00:20:02,733
coming off of Easy Rider.
380
00:20:02,768 --> 00:20:04,101
[Dennis]
You know what I mean?
381
00:20:04,136 --> 00:20:06,870
I mean, I don't need to havepeople make movies about me,
382
00:20:06,905 --> 00:20:08,439
or, like, you know,
any of that.
383
00:20:08,474 --> 00:20:10,307
I mean, it's all gonna be
up there eventually
on the screen
384
00:20:10,342 --> 00:20:12,276
and they can see that movie.
385
00:20:12,311 --> 00:20:13,611
So this is really,
you know...
386
00:20:13,646 --> 00:20:15,145
It's a nice idea, you know?
387
00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:16,914
Whether it's damaging,
or whether it isn't,
388
00:20:16,949 --> 00:20:18,649
it doesn't really
matter to me.
389
00:20:18,684 --> 00:20:20,718
A lot of people were
feeding off him.
390
00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:23,120
They were going
down to, uh...
391
00:20:24,623 --> 00:20:27,658
to New Mexico, and...
392
00:20:27,693 --> 00:20:29,293
the money was coming in.
393
00:20:29,328 --> 00:20:31,595
[man] What's the most
difficult thing
about cutting, Dennis?
394
00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:33,064
Sitting here.
395
00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:37,735
[Satya] He used the barn for the editing suite.
396
00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:42,039
And Dennis tried to edit 48 hours of footage
397
00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:43,841
into a coherent film.
398
00:20:54,887 --> 00:20:57,655
[Ted] There was no typical work day.
399
00:20:57,690 --> 00:21:02,459
It was totally up to the energy of the scene,
400
00:21:02,494 --> 00:21:05,296
the energy of
the people working.
401
00:21:05,331 --> 00:21:07,364
It was a family.
402
00:21:07,399 --> 00:21:11,902
There was no difference. Everybody had equal say.
403
00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:15,072
It was so loose
it was refreshing.
404
00:21:15,107 --> 00:21:18,976
[Satya]
Back then we had a thing where we were taking LSD,
405
00:21:19,011 --> 00:21:21,512
DMT, DET...
406
00:21:21,547 --> 00:21:24,081
You name it, the whole alphabet.
407
00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,417
Acronyms were popular.
408
00:21:26,452 --> 00:21:30,020
I had knowledge of LSD,
because of...
409
00:21:30,055 --> 00:21:32,890
Cary Grant had been
a family friend that
had tried to
410
00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:34,858
persuade me to
try LSD.
411
00:21:34,893 --> 00:21:37,995
But I said to Cary,
"I don't think that's for me."
412
00:21:38,030 --> 00:21:40,698
You know how the scuttlebutt
gets going,
413
00:21:40,733 --> 00:21:42,132
and gossip and all that.
414
00:21:42,167 --> 00:21:44,735
And people talking even
out here in LA,
415
00:21:44,770 --> 00:21:47,538
about how Dennis is
out of control.
416
00:21:47,573 --> 00:21:51,008
I didn't see Dennis being
out of control.
417
00:21:51,043 --> 00:21:53,110
I think he was maybe nervous at the time.
418
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:56,847
But we had a good time, went to the shooting range,
419
00:21:56,882 --> 00:21:58,782
and he was happy to do that.
420
00:21:58,817 --> 00:22:00,551
He was into guns at that time.
421
00:22:00,586 --> 00:22:02,853
I vaguely was.
422
00:22:02,888 --> 00:22:05,723
I remember going, like, maybe a year before,
423
00:22:05,758 --> 00:22:08,759
going to a party
at George Hermes'
424
00:22:08,794 --> 00:22:10,094
out in Topenga,
425
00:22:10,129 --> 00:22:12,463
and Dennis was there saying
something like,
426
00:22:12,498 --> 00:22:16,334
"God, they gave me
a million dollars
to make this movie."
427
00:22:17,035 --> 00:22:18,469
It's a great movie, actually.
428
00:22:18,504 --> 00:22:20,804
It gave a lot of detail about
who Dennis was, what he was...
429
00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:23,374
At this time of course,
he's a changed person.
430
00:22:23,409 --> 00:22:25,909
That time period in America
things were wild.
431
00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:27,945
Vietnam War, the peak,
and...
432
00:22:28,614 --> 00:22:29,713
The country collapsing,
433
00:22:29,748 --> 00:22:31,115
and he got this
obsession with guns.
434
00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:33,283
These are real guns,
they're not props.
435
00:22:33,318 --> 00:22:34,718
And this is '71.
436
00:22:34,753 --> 00:22:37,822
This is a different Dennis, different character.
437
00:22:40,125 --> 00:22:43,660
Well, it seems like he kept
the character of Kansas going
438
00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:46,697
for years, with his denims,
his boots...
439
00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:50,134
The same denim jacket
from the last movie.
440
00:22:50,169 --> 00:22:52,236
Yeah. And with him,
it wasn't a joke.
441
00:22:52,271 --> 00:22:53,370
It wasn't a set.
442
00:22:53,406 --> 00:22:55,472
He got passionately involved
with guns at that time,
443
00:22:55,507 --> 00:22:57,041
'cause Taos...
444
00:22:58,310 --> 00:23:01,979
[Satya] Everything was at your disposal here,
445
00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:05,349
because there was so
few constraints here.
446
00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:06,717
[Todd] It was lawless.
447
00:23:06,752 --> 00:23:08,118
Lawless indeed.
448
00:23:08,153 --> 00:23:10,721
And here was this kind
of freedom
449
00:23:10,756 --> 00:23:13,257
that it's like a place
in time for God.
450
00:23:15,093 --> 00:23:16,860
So you know more about this
than I do, right?
451
00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:18,962
This is Michelle Phillips,
452
00:23:18,997 --> 00:23:21,331
his wife, of the Mamas and the Papas.
453
00:23:21,366 --> 00:23:23,000
[Tony] I didn't know... I never met her.
454
00:23:23,035 --> 00:23:24,768
You were around with him
every day, weren't you?
455
00:23:24,803 --> 00:23:26,537
-[Satya] Right. -So what was nice here,
456
00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:27,538
'cause she was very beautiful.
457
00:23:27,573 --> 00:23:28,839
[Satya] Gorgeous woman.
458
00:23:28,874 --> 00:23:30,874
[Tony] So knowing Dennis,
as crazy as he was,
459
00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:33,143
especially then with all the guns and shit going on,
460
00:23:33,178 --> 00:23:34,678
that was a very short marriage,
461
00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:36,313
only two or three days or something.
462
00:23:36,348 --> 00:23:38,315
-[Satya] World record. It's in the Guinness Book. -It is.
463
00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:42,352
What really gets me into is
like thinking that I'm at
a cocktail party
464
00:23:42,387 --> 00:23:44,822
and now it's time to
talk about art.
465
00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:46,123
-[laughter]
-Yeah, really.
466
00:23:46,158 --> 00:23:48,325
You know, he had his ways
of looking at the world,
467
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,561
and it was very broad.
468
00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:52,797
And I always wondered
how he could be
469
00:23:53,398 --> 00:23:55,265
in the movie business
470
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:58,802
and be so ingrained into
the world of art.
471
00:23:58,837 --> 00:24:02,639
His relationship to art
was real.
472
00:24:02,674 --> 00:24:05,175
Most actors,
most movie people,
473
00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:06,810
they might have
a collection...
474
00:24:06,845 --> 00:24:08,145
But it's more than
a collection,
475
00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,347
it's engaged with
the artist.
476
00:24:10,382 --> 00:24:11,782
They admire him,
477
00:24:11,817 --> 00:24:13,951
because of where
he was coming from.
478
00:24:13,986 --> 00:24:15,986
The fact that he was
one of the first
people to buy
479
00:24:16,021 --> 00:24:18,522
Andy Warhol painting was remarkable.
480
00:24:18,557 --> 00:24:20,157
One of them was The Kiss,
481
00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:22,192
which is one of the greatest things Andy did.
482
00:24:22,227 --> 00:24:24,561
To appreciate something
is one thing.
483
00:24:24,596 --> 00:24:26,263
To be the first one
to buy it,
484
00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:27,431
to have it, to hang it,
485
00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:29,466
recognize it
over and over again,
is something else.
486
00:24:29,501 --> 00:24:31,969
And to know and to
follow it passionately...
487
00:24:32,004 --> 00:24:35,906
Did you talk to
Danny Selznick? David...
488
00:24:35,941 --> 00:24:37,274
"I love you, man."
489
00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:39,243
That's what Dennis used to say
to me all the time.
490
00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:40,377
"I love you, man."
491
00:24:40,412 --> 00:24:43,514
I'm sure this could be the basis
for a comedy sometime.
492
00:24:43,549 --> 00:24:47,885
Danny Selznick going from
Universal City to
Taos, New Mexico,
493
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,286
and Dennis greeted me warmly and he said
494
00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:52,089
we're gonna go down to the local movie theater.
495
00:24:52,124 --> 00:24:55,492
He showed me a very, very rough cut of The Last Movie.
496
00:24:55,527 --> 00:24:58,462
And it had absolutely extraordinary footage.
497
00:24:58,497 --> 00:24:59,863
It more than fulfilled
498
00:24:59,898 --> 00:25:02,933
the potential of
Stewart Stern's screenplay.
499
00:25:02,968 --> 00:25:05,702
I think it was at the New York Film Festival
500
00:25:05,737 --> 00:25:07,370
that I discovered El Topo.
501
00:25:07,406 --> 00:25:09,706
And I said there's this is an amazing movie called El Topo.
502
00:25:09,741 --> 00:25:11,608
He said, "My God, it sounds surrealist."
503
00:25:11,643 --> 00:25:14,878
He immediately arrangedto meet Alejandro Jodorowsky,
504
00:25:14,913 --> 00:25:16,413
and the rest is now history.
505
00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:18,982
[Satya] Alejandro had a cut of it for him.
506
00:25:19,017 --> 00:25:21,885
And everybody seemed to have their version
507
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,120
of what it was.
508
00:25:23,155 --> 00:25:25,689
But you know as well as I do,
509
00:25:25,724 --> 00:25:27,824
in the final analysis,
510
00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,894
Dennis is releasing the cut that he wants,
511
00:25:30,929 --> 00:25:33,998
no matter who intercedes in his behalf.
512
00:25:38,036 --> 00:25:41,138
One day, Dennis said to me,
513
00:25:41,173 --> 00:25:42,840
"Let's go down to the theater.
514
00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:46,911
I wanna show you my unexpurgated version of The Last Movie."
515
00:25:51,450 --> 00:25:53,350
After about 15 hours,
516
00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,085
he said to me, "You wanna wrap it up now?"
517
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:56,620
I said, "Are you kidding?
518
00:25:56,655 --> 00:25:58,622
This stuff is dynamite, Dennis.
519
00:25:58,657 --> 00:26:00,924
I didn't know
you had it in you.
520
00:26:00,959 --> 00:26:03,961
And that stuff
of the outer planet.
Show me more.
521
00:26:03,996 --> 00:26:08,231
Lazlo and you have created
a brilliant film here.
522
00:26:08,266 --> 00:26:10,534
And it's a feast for the eyes."
523
00:26:16,008 --> 00:26:18,742
The most noteworthy, to me, in the film,
524
00:26:18,777 --> 00:26:20,577
was the tracking shot
525
00:26:20,612 --> 00:26:22,579
that Laszlo Kovacs did,
526
00:26:22,614 --> 00:26:24,548
and Dennis has no dialog in.
527
00:26:26,885 --> 00:26:29,486
In that, he acts
with his eyes,
528
00:26:29,521 --> 00:26:31,322
like most great actors do.
529
00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:41,599
Anybody that appreciates fine artistry
530
00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:43,934
can understand
531
00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:47,438
the brilliance of his acting.
532
00:26:49,508 --> 00:26:50,574
He suffers.
533
00:26:51,677 --> 00:26:52,977
Then I realized...
534
00:26:55,647 --> 00:26:58,015
this guy that
made Easy Rider,
535
00:26:58,050 --> 00:26:59,783
a film that I enjoyed
536
00:26:59,818 --> 00:27:01,952
and I thought
was groundbreaking,
537
00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:04,254
but not a work
of genius.
538
00:27:04,723 --> 00:27:05,956
But this film,
539
00:27:06,925 --> 00:27:09,493
this film was sensational.
540
00:27:10,729 --> 00:27:14,531
I decided to make a firm commitment to help the man.
541
00:27:17,335 --> 00:27:19,203
[man] What's gonna happen if The Last Movie
542
00:27:20,238 --> 00:27:22,439
is not accepted as Easy Rider was?
543
00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:24,875
[Dennis] What's gonna happen to me?
544
00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:26,410
Nothing's gonna happen to me.
545
00:27:27,245 --> 00:27:29,646
Because like you know, I...
546
00:27:29,681 --> 00:27:32,883
I was sleeping on a mattress when I edited Easy Rider,
547
00:27:32,918 --> 00:27:36,153
and I can sleep on a mattress again. I have friends.
548
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,795
Just photographs upon
photographs, man.
549
00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:45,896
That's all that's
gonna be left.
550
00:27:45,931 --> 00:27:47,731
I'm only gonna be ashes.
551
00:27:47,766 --> 00:27:48,832
If I'm that.
552
00:27:48,867 --> 00:27:51,201
If I'm lucky enough
to be ashes.
553
00:27:51,236 --> 00:27:53,103
[Tony] One of the best thingsabout Dennis Hopper
554
00:27:53,138 --> 00:27:55,305
was not his movies, it was the pictures he took.
555
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:58,575
His photos were incredible.
556
00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:01,511
Photography was the thingthat he had the biggest impact.
557
00:28:01,546 --> 00:28:04,448
What I learned from him,time and time and time again,
558
00:28:04,483 --> 00:28:06,783
that James Dean is where he got it from.
559
00:28:06,818 --> 00:28:08,518
James Dean was a great photographer.
560
00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:10,921
James Dean was the only person allowed
561
00:28:10,956 --> 00:28:12,355
on any set that he went to,
562
00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:14,558
to actually take pictures.
563
00:28:14,593 --> 00:28:16,626
He affected me
as much as Lee Strasberg.
564
00:28:16,661 --> 00:28:20,030
Finally after Jimmy died,
I went to New York and
studied with Strasberg,
565
00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:23,266
who's a teacher that
he studied with, that...
566
00:28:23,301 --> 00:28:25,535
From watching him work
and the two pictures,
567
00:28:25,570 --> 00:28:26,637
where we spent...
568
00:28:27,439 --> 00:28:29,673
We spent eight months together.
569
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,408
You know? And then he died.
570
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:34,911
So this is 55 from Giant.
571
00:28:34,946 --> 00:28:37,948
And Jimmy's looking at this
while Dennis admiringly...
572
00:28:37,983 --> 00:28:39,683
He's got a bull whip
around his neck.
573
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:43,386
So Dennis wrote this to me with a 96, yeah.
574
00:28:43,421 --> 00:28:46,490
"To Tony, my best friend."
575
00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:48,992
I just wish I was here
next to them.
576
00:28:49,027 --> 00:28:50,494
I guess I am,
in spirit.
577
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,630
[Satya]
James Dean, immortal actor,
578
00:28:53,665 --> 00:28:55,832
made three films.
579
00:28:55,867 --> 00:28:59,302
Dennis Hopper was fortunate enough to be in two of them.
580
00:28:59,337 --> 00:29:03,140
If James Dean put his key
in the door of rebellion,
581
00:29:03,875 --> 00:29:05,676
Dennis Hopper kicked it in.
582
00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:08,812
My original thing was
to take it to Cannes.
583
00:29:08,847 --> 00:29:11,481
To forget about the rest of
this and just go to Cannes.
584
00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:14,184
And then I got talked into
an April opening.
585
00:29:14,219 --> 00:29:16,186
You know, an Easter opening.
586
00:29:19,024 --> 00:29:20,457
[Satya]
This was the editing room.
587
00:29:21,393 --> 00:29:23,560
This is where his film
was assembled,
588
00:29:24,329 --> 00:29:26,463
disassembled, re-assembled.
589
00:29:28,266 --> 00:29:30,634
This is where he put togetherhis greatest work.
590
00:29:32,204 --> 00:29:35,739
The editing became laborious
and very difficult.
591
00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:38,842
He got a lot of pressure
from Universal Pictures.
592
00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:42,679
Nick Ray came in to try togive him advice about editing.
593
00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:45,749
It was much longer
than Universal Pictures
594
00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:47,517
-could handle.
-Right.
595
00:29:47,552 --> 00:29:48,952
[laughing]
596
00:29:48,987 --> 00:29:51,188
-That's an understatement.
-Yeah.
597
00:29:51,223 --> 00:29:54,925
He was over... over...
598
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,059
what should one say...
599
00:29:56,094 --> 00:29:58,762
intellectualizing every
single scene.
600
00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:01,898
[Gruskoff] He just didn't havea beginning,middle and end.
601
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:05,168
You know, I said,
"But I think it
could be better."
602
00:30:05,203 --> 00:30:07,537
I always went back to
Stewart Stern's script.
603
00:30:07,572 --> 00:30:09,539
I said, "This is something
we fell in love with,
604
00:30:09,574 --> 00:30:12,442
this story. And this is not
that story really anymore.
605
00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:16,646
My next trip to Taos, he said,
"Let's just go
directly to the cutting room."
606
00:30:16,681 --> 00:30:20,317
And all the shelves were empty.
607
00:30:20,352 --> 00:30:22,752
And I said, "Dennis, where's the film?"
608
00:30:22,787 --> 00:30:26,223
He said, "Well, I'm keeping the film where I'm keeping the film.
609
00:30:26,258 --> 00:30:27,991
Universal's not gonna interfere with this.
610
00:30:28,026 --> 00:30:30,427
I said, "Universal's not gonna interfere with it,
611
00:30:30,462 --> 00:30:33,063
because we gave you final cut, Dennis."
612
00:30:33,098 --> 00:30:37,467
[Dennis] I do believe that a man who doesn't protect himself
613
00:30:38,370 --> 00:30:39,703
is really a fool.
614
00:30:43,541 --> 00:30:45,408
[Mike] You know, it's like an old man trying to
615
00:30:45,443 --> 00:30:48,111
understand what the teenager is doing.
616
00:30:48,146 --> 00:30:52,315
Because, one, he's not
gonna tell you what
he's thinking.
617
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:54,651
And if he does,
you won't understand it.
618
00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:56,553
[audience applauding]
619
00:30:56,588 --> 00:30:58,521
Glad to have you with us.
620
00:30:58,556 --> 00:31:00,023
I'm so glad to be here.
621
00:31:00,058 --> 00:31:01,358
June and I were out...
622
00:31:01,393 --> 00:31:04,394
We drove up to Taos,
one day, New Mexico,
623
00:31:04,429 --> 00:31:06,496
looked for you,
never did see you.
624
00:31:06,531 --> 00:31:08,365
Well, he'd come to
my studio
625
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,800
and this painting was up on the wall
626
00:31:10,835 --> 00:31:13,537
and he would
break into this,
627
00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:18,708
recitation of
Rudyard Kipling's poem.
628
00:31:18,743 --> 00:31:20,210
And it's called If.
629
00:31:20,245 --> 00:31:21,378
"If" is a middle word--
630
00:31:21,413 --> 00:31:22,445
We have a special
spot for you.
631
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,947
Dennis Hopper,
ladies and gentlemen.
632
00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:25,448
[applause]
633
00:31:25,483 --> 00:31:28,985
I think he learned early on
to put gusto in just about
634
00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:30,720
everything he did,
no matter what.
635
00:31:30,755 --> 00:31:33,690
One of the most intense
individuals I've ever met.
636
00:31:34,259 --> 00:31:35,692
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
637
00:31:36,628 --> 00:31:42,266
"If you can meet
with Triumph and Disaster,
638
00:31:44,135 --> 00:31:47,237
and you just treat these
two impostors just the same..."
639
00:31:47,272 --> 00:31:48,705
[Lawrence]
It was very antagonistic.
640
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:51,274
They had a release
date scheduled, you know.
641
00:31:51,309 --> 00:31:53,343
They have stockholders,
you know.
642
00:31:54,312 --> 00:31:55,578
-They're responsible.
-Yeah.
643
00:31:55,613 --> 00:31:58,782
And they needed to start
to prepare
for that release.
644
00:31:58,817 --> 00:32:00,417
So we were very worried.
645
00:32:00,452 --> 00:32:02,986
And Dennis took the film
to the Venice Film Festival.
646
00:32:10,528 --> 00:32:14,498
This film became
Dennis' jewel.
647
00:32:16,001 --> 00:32:20,070
It not only won CIDALC at the Venice Film Festival,
648
00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:25,308
but Dennis became
only the second American
since Buster Keaton
649
00:32:25,343 --> 00:32:28,812
to win the grand prize
at the Venice Film festival.
650
00:32:32,517 --> 00:32:34,117
[Stella]
Cameras were shooting all the time,
651
00:32:34,152 --> 00:32:36,553
and he loved the attention.
652
00:32:36,588 --> 00:32:38,722
The film was very well accepted.
653
00:32:38,757 --> 00:32:40,457
It was overwhelming.
654
00:32:40,492 --> 00:32:42,592
[Danny] And Dennis came backsmiling to Universal studios
655
00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:44,961
and said, "Well, I have
a prize from Venice."
656
00:32:44,996 --> 00:32:47,130
We had a screening.
657
00:32:47,165 --> 00:32:50,867
In walked about
15 people in gray suits.
658
00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:52,369
Not a word.
659
00:32:52,404 --> 00:32:55,438
Sat down in unison,
not a word.
660
00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:58,575
At the end of the picture,
got up in unison, not a word.
661
00:32:59,210 --> 00:33:00,077
That was it.
662
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:05,982
[Danny] I said, "Dennis, it'squite extraordinary, but,
663
00:33:06,017 --> 00:33:08,618
you must delete
that last shot."
664
00:33:11,523 --> 00:33:14,024
I said, "You're playing Pirandello games now,
665
00:33:14,059 --> 00:33:16,593
and it destroys the whole purity of the picture."
666
00:33:23,802 --> 00:33:26,937
He said, "Danny, remember I have final cut."
667
00:33:31,409 --> 00:33:33,710
[Stella]
After the screening,
668
00:33:33,745 --> 00:33:36,513
the first person he went
up to was my husband, Don,
669
00:33:36,548 --> 00:33:37,747
and he asked him,
"What do you think, Don?
670
00:33:37,782 --> 00:33:39,649
What d you think
about the film?
671
00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:42,919
And Don said, "I hope they
understand it."
672
00:33:42,954 --> 00:33:46,656
Him dying, getting up, dying, getting up.
673
00:33:46,691 --> 00:33:48,691
He got tired of dying
apparently.
674
00:33:48,726 --> 00:33:50,827
He wouldn't die
in The Last Movie.
675
00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:53,363
And they really wanted him
to die, man.
676
00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:54,731
What's up with that?
677
00:33:56,434 --> 00:33:58,201
[Gruskoff]
Next thing we got
from Lew Wasserman
678
00:33:58,236 --> 00:34:00,236
is we gotta change,
gotta redo the picture.
679
00:34:00,271 --> 00:34:02,105
We gotta recut and do all of this...
680
00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:04,007
which we said no.
681
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:06,610
He defied Lew Wasserman.
682
00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:10,147
You know, but...
683
00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:14,918
You know, it's a privilege
to have final cut.
684
00:34:14,953 --> 00:34:18,688
And you have to know
how you're gonna use it.
685
00:34:18,723 --> 00:34:21,825
I mean, I remember him
pounding a table saying,
686
00:34:22,794 --> 00:34:24,127
"He must die!"
687
00:34:26,698 --> 00:34:29,499
And there was a lot of
screaming in the halls.
688
00:34:29,534 --> 00:34:31,968
And holy shit, you know,
this is like...
689
00:34:32,003 --> 00:34:33,636
[Danny] You see the hilarious footage
690
00:34:33,671 --> 00:34:37,073
in which I'm walking on the Universal lot with Dennis.
691
00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:40,376
We wanted to make a few
changes if I could
persuade him.
692
00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:43,613
And I want you to
be able to--
693
00:34:43,648 --> 00:34:46,449
I still, like, you know...
I still wanna keep the...
694
00:34:46,484 --> 00:34:48,418
keep the economy of...
695
00:34:48,453 --> 00:34:50,720
They said if you can't
persuade him, forget it.
696
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:52,956
So I was trying to persuade him,
we're walking on the lawn,
697
00:34:52,991 --> 00:34:54,657
trying to use my friendship with him.
698
00:34:54,692 --> 00:34:56,726
And he was continuously sayin',
699
00:34:56,761 --> 00:34:59,496
"Yeah, man. I love you, man, but no."
700
00:34:59,531 --> 00:35:02,232
The problem was he
didn't wanna do it their way.
701
00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:03,333
They're giving job security.
702
00:35:03,368 --> 00:35:05,535
Yeah, but I can't stand
their ego trips.
703
00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:07,737
Well, I cut it
and I directed Bob Wise,
704
00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:10,373
and I selected it and I...
I... I...
705
00:35:10,408 --> 00:35:13,776
[Danny] Then finally he said,"We'll open it in one movietheater in New York, Danny,
706
00:35:13,811 --> 00:35:16,312
because we'll see what
the critics say.
707
00:35:16,347 --> 00:35:17,981
And if it doesn't work
in New York,
708
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:19,115
we'll trash it."
709
00:35:19,151 --> 00:35:22,552
New York was significant
because Nick Ray was there.
710
00:35:23,388 --> 00:35:26,623
And he was a great influence.
711
00:35:26,658 --> 00:35:28,791
We were in this one booth,
712
00:35:28,826 --> 00:35:30,894
and I look over, "Are we ready?"
713
00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:34,531
and Nick is shooting up
his girlfriend.
714
00:35:34,566 --> 00:35:36,533
And I look over to Dennis,
715
00:35:36,568 --> 00:35:38,468
and Dennis
just took a hit of something
716
00:35:38,503 --> 00:35:41,571
and he goes back
in his seat and he's...
717
00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:45,075
And at that point it was just so theatrical.
718
00:35:46,678 --> 00:35:48,545
[Gruskoff]
You know, he's very talented,
719
00:35:49,514 --> 00:35:52,982
but he had a disease
at that time.
720
00:35:53,017 --> 00:35:56,086
And the disease was
self destruction.
721
00:35:58,323 --> 00:36:02,091
This tells the story
of making a movie
722
00:36:02,126 --> 00:36:06,029
and how the Hollywood,
the old classical world
of movie making,
723
00:36:06,064 --> 00:36:08,831
myth making world
entering a private
724
00:36:08,866 --> 00:36:12,101
village world of culture
rips it apart.
725
00:36:12,136 --> 00:36:14,037
And after it leaves,
it goes through veins,
726
00:36:14,072 --> 00:36:17,540
goes to the, sort of,
a destructive force.
727
00:36:17,575 --> 00:36:19,542
Ruins the village,
ruins their lives.
728
00:36:19,577 --> 00:36:21,144
And this myth stays behind.
729
00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:22,645
And so he's showing, really,
730
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,114
the skeleton of the movie,
not the movie itself.
731
00:36:25,149 --> 00:36:27,984
And so, it was too shocking for the world to see.
732
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:30,554
But it's basically an underground movie.
733
00:36:32,023 --> 00:36:35,625
[Satya] The film never really was a success.
734
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:37,928
And then he wasn't allowed to direct anymore.
735
00:36:38,596 --> 00:36:41,064
This really hurt him.
736
00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:44,167
I think he went into a downward spiral at that point.
737
00:36:45,069 --> 00:36:47,704
And his drinking
738
00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:51,141
became even more heavy.
739
00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:56,913
He suffered.
740
00:36:56,948 --> 00:36:59,149
He suffered greatly
for this.
741
00:37:03,521 --> 00:37:05,989
It was a crushing blow to Dennis.
742
00:37:06,024 --> 00:37:09,692
And this room became
a ghost room.
743
00:37:09,727 --> 00:37:14,230
In that he had completely
abandoned the place,
intact,
744
00:37:14,265 --> 00:37:20,036
and a cloud of dust descended on the slingbacks and the movie overs,
745
00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:24,774
and the whole room
became a macabre
746
00:37:24,809 --> 00:37:28,645
remnant of Dennis'
artistic battle
747
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,180
with the suits
in Hollywood.
748
00:37:31,215 --> 00:37:32,349
[thunder rumbling]
749
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,787
[David] It was rough working for those guys.
750
00:37:37,822 --> 00:37:39,055
And then they shelved the movie.
751
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:41,157
Well, he made a habit
of getting blackballed.
752
00:37:41,192 --> 00:37:44,260
Well, he was blackballed
for 24 years in this country
753
00:37:44,295 --> 00:37:45,561
out of his career.
754
00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:48,498
After The Last Movie,
he was 50.
755
00:37:48,533 --> 00:37:52,068
It's sort of like Muhammad Ali
wasn't allowed to prize fight--
756
00:37:52,103 --> 00:37:53,503
Isn't it a drag?
757
00:37:53,538 --> 00:37:56,339
[Satya] And that's
one of the reasons
he suffered so much
758
00:37:56,374 --> 00:37:58,741
when he got ostracized
and blackballed
759
00:37:58,776 --> 00:38:00,610
after The Last Movie.
760
00:38:00,645 --> 00:38:02,845
Because he internalized
all that.
761
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,715
But also, you know,
when Dennis hit the canvas,
762
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:07,283
he only went down
on one knee.
763
00:38:07,318 --> 00:38:08,851
One of the reasons,
764
00:38:08,886 --> 00:38:10,620
and the most important reason
765
00:38:10,655 --> 00:38:14,957
Julie, that I worked
for Dennis
all these years,
766
00:38:14,992 --> 00:38:16,559
especially during
the dark parts
767
00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:20,096
was that The Last Movie,
to me, was the most
768
00:38:21,899 --> 00:38:26,302
shattering cinematic
experience
I ever had.
769
00:38:26,337 --> 00:38:28,638
You couldn't
keep him down.
770
00:38:28,673 --> 00:38:32,575
All that drinking
and drug abuse,
771
00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:33,976
it wouldn't let him work.
772
00:38:34,011 --> 00:38:37,647
He sat there and he was
trying to get a job
all the time.
773
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:40,316
It was The Last Movie.
774
00:38:40,351 --> 00:38:41,984
We were all dropped out in the mountains.
775
00:38:42,019 --> 00:38:45,121
Dennis has the curse of being a really great actor.
776
00:38:47,625 --> 00:38:49,392
"Fading into desert highway."
777
00:38:49,427 --> 00:38:51,161
I think we've seen that before.
778
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,964
Here's a photo
of Jerry Jeff Walker.
779
00:38:55,666 --> 00:38:57,600
We played poker
all the time.
780
00:38:57,635 --> 00:38:59,869
And Dennis raised him
three ounces.
781
00:39:03,841 --> 00:39:05,208
[Carpio] Well, you know, when I met Dennis...
782
00:39:05,243 --> 00:39:08,378
The first time I met Dennis
I was a really young man.
783
00:39:08,413 --> 00:39:09,345
That's right.
784
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,813
And it was so funny, 'cause
785
00:39:10,848 --> 00:39:12,682
they were filming
Easy Rider here
786
00:39:12,717 --> 00:39:14,016
in Taos Pueblo.
787
00:39:14,051 --> 00:39:17,019
And I was just a young kid, sitting over there,
788
00:39:17,054 --> 00:39:19,522
watching the filming, and...
789
00:39:19,557 --> 00:39:23,059
And you know, my father was
the tribal interpreter
for our village,
790
00:39:23,094 --> 00:39:26,462
and fought for
48,000 acres of land.
791
00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:28,731
And Dennis went over
there to
792
00:39:28,766 --> 00:39:31,667
put a little support
towards our Pueblo
793
00:39:31,702 --> 00:39:33,836
and the battle for Blue Lake.
794
00:39:33,871 --> 00:39:37,373
And I got to know Dennis as a brother.
795
00:39:37,408 --> 00:39:40,676
Actually, I don't know if you
were there at the time,
796
00:39:40,711 --> 00:39:42,645
but we were
at Bill Gerson's house.
797
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,214
And there was Dean Stockwell
798
00:39:45,249 --> 00:39:46,983
and Rusty Hamlin.
799
00:39:47,018 --> 00:39:49,752
I actually talked them
into cutting themselves
800
00:39:49,787 --> 00:39:51,287
and being blood brothers.
801
00:39:53,791 --> 00:39:56,726
I remember meeting him
many years ago.
802
00:39:56,761 --> 00:39:59,395
But I don't remember
the first time I met him.
803
00:39:59,430 --> 00:40:00,496
Do you remember?
804
00:40:00,531 --> 00:40:03,299
Was it in the cutting room
of The Last Movie?
805
00:40:03,334 --> 00:40:06,836
It might have been...
My memory now is getting old.
806
00:40:07,638 --> 00:40:10,440
It wasn't so hot to start with.
807
00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:12,142
[laughing]
808
00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:18,981
But yeah, this is the place
we all lived together.
809
00:40:19,016 --> 00:40:20,416
And we had
such good times here.
810
00:40:20,451 --> 00:40:24,053
We'd hole in with all
the beautiful ladies of Taos.
811
00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:27,490
Yeah, well, it's a wonderful
place that we, you know...
812
00:40:27,525 --> 00:40:30,960
Wow, the place looks a lot
different, doesn't it?
813
00:40:30,995 --> 00:40:32,995
[greeting in foreign language]
814
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:36,032
What do you remember
about Dennis?
815
00:40:36,067 --> 00:40:39,936
Well, Dennis, I met him
when I was young.
816
00:40:39,971 --> 00:40:41,671
Yes. You were what, 15?
817
00:40:41,706 --> 00:40:45,107
Yeah. 15 or 16.
Around there, 17.
818
00:40:45,142 --> 00:40:46,342
I met him here.
819
00:40:47,512 --> 00:40:50,112
When he was moving here,
I met him.
820
00:40:50,147 --> 00:40:52,381
He was a good man.
Quite a good man.
821
00:40:52,416 --> 00:40:56,552
You know, Satya, John here
and the family live here.
822
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:58,054
And this is their home.
823
00:40:58,089 --> 00:41:00,790
And it's something
that's really beautiful
what Dennis did
824
00:41:00,825 --> 00:41:03,860
is just to leave the place,
you know, and move on.
825
00:41:03,895 --> 00:41:05,695
And there's
this whole property.
826
00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:07,363
He would sit up there in the mornings and,
827
00:41:07,398 --> 00:41:11,400
like I said, he would look atthe sacred mountainand let the sun come up.
828
00:41:11,435 --> 00:41:13,636
But it's really a wonderful place.
829
00:41:13,671 --> 00:41:15,338
And you know, it's been...
830
00:41:15,373 --> 00:41:18,174
God, over 40 years
since I've sat up there.
831
00:41:18,209 --> 00:41:20,476
And I'm gonna take a look
up there, okay?
832
00:41:20,511 --> 00:41:21,978
-[Satya] Yeah.
-Why don't you talk to John.
833
00:41:22,013 --> 00:41:23,112
-[Satya] John.
-[John] Yeah.
834
00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:25,849
What do you think about
going inside, John?
835
00:41:27,184 --> 00:41:29,986
So this is where Dennis was,
Satya, you know.
836
00:41:30,021 --> 00:41:31,053
[Satya] That's right.
837
00:41:31,088 --> 00:41:32,488
It's really a beautiful place.
838
00:41:32,523 --> 00:41:34,123
And he would stand here
and go...
839
00:41:34,158 --> 00:41:35,458
[imitating machine gun firing]
840
00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:38,027
And this was the place, man,
the Tony House.
841
00:41:38,062 --> 00:41:40,796
He had a big, huge
television right there.
842
00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:42,865
His bed was right here.
843
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:44,767
Bed was right there.
844
00:41:44,802 --> 00:41:49,138
And the remote was
where I hid it.
845
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:50,540
It's probably still
there, man.
846
00:41:50,575 --> 00:41:52,075
[all laugh]
847
00:41:55,179 --> 00:41:59,015
[Carpio] You know, the smokewas better in the '70s.
848
00:41:59,050 --> 00:42:02,051
It was. Everything was
better back then.
849
00:42:04,021 --> 00:42:05,889
Here we are, my friend.
850
00:42:09,193 --> 00:42:11,027
You know,
you're supposed to roll it.
851
00:42:11,062 --> 00:42:13,429
And it's all too thin.
What's this New York joint?
852
00:42:13,464 --> 00:42:14,463
Jesus Christ.
853
00:42:14,498 --> 00:42:15,565
Too thin for you.
854
00:42:16,534 --> 00:42:17,867
Don't take two hits.
855
00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:31,781
[Satya]
Years ago, we were in trash truck with Dennis.
856
00:42:31,816 --> 00:42:33,583
That was Dennis'
vehicle.
857
00:42:33,618 --> 00:42:34,884
-Yeah?
-Right.
858
00:42:34,919 --> 00:42:37,219
-He referred to it
as that.
-He did.
859
00:42:37,254 --> 00:42:38,655
And everybody else
did, too.
860
00:42:39,790 --> 00:42:42,391
We went to a club.
861
00:42:42,426 --> 00:42:43,325
It looked like trash.
862
00:42:43,361 --> 00:42:47,430
Club north of town
called Las Compadres.
863
00:42:47,465 --> 00:42:50,633
Dennis, Dean Stockwell and myself were returning
864
00:42:50,668 --> 00:42:53,169
to Dennis' lovely Tony House
865
00:42:53,204 --> 00:42:55,171
in the Taos Reservation.
866
00:42:55,206 --> 00:42:57,807
And just as we passed this establishment,
867
00:42:57,842 --> 00:43:00,576
known back then as Los Compadres,
868
00:43:00,611 --> 00:43:02,678
Dennis said, "I need a drink.
869
00:43:02,713 --> 00:43:03,846
Let's stop."
870
00:43:03,881 --> 00:43:06,549
I said, "Dennis, this is
not a good idea.
871
00:43:06,584 --> 00:43:08,017
It's a locals only joint."
872
00:43:08,052 --> 00:43:10,953
We entered right there
from that door.
873
00:43:10,988 --> 00:43:14,691
That door that's blocked by
all this beautiful mission
furniture.
874
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,696
The bar was populated by
a bunch of hard nosed locals
875
00:43:20,731 --> 00:43:23,065
who weren't happy
to see us.
876
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,101
There was booths around here,
877
00:43:27,905 --> 00:43:30,106
some pretty young Latinas
sitting in 'em.
878
00:43:32,677 --> 00:43:34,977
The place was huge.
879
00:43:35,012 --> 00:43:37,279
The band was playing
over there.
880
00:43:37,314 --> 00:43:40,683
We were ignored
by the bartender for
eight or nine minutes.
881
00:43:43,187 --> 00:43:45,054
While we were waiting,
882
00:43:45,089 --> 00:43:48,658
Dennis and Dean were sizing up the place,
883
00:43:48,693 --> 00:43:51,995
and they both spotted a beautiful young dark haired Latina.
884
00:43:53,230 --> 00:43:55,297
Dean said, "I think
I'll dance with her."
885
00:43:55,332 --> 00:43:57,967
If you recall,
you and he
886
00:43:58,002 --> 00:44:00,603
ad trouble finding
dance partners.
887
00:44:01,739 --> 00:44:03,305
Right. So we danced together.
888
00:44:03,340 --> 00:44:04,340
Right. Right.
889
00:44:04,375 --> 00:44:05,908
Both of us
holding a pistol.
890
00:44:05,943 --> 00:44:08,210
Right. And that's when
they called the man.
891
00:44:08,245 --> 00:44:10,312
However, how I remember it,
892
00:44:10,347 --> 00:44:12,915
the bartender's eyes popped
out of his head
893
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:16,819
when he noticed Dennis'
.357 Magnum.
894
00:44:16,854 --> 00:44:19,722
He went to the telephone,
which was right behind the bar,
895
00:44:21,158 --> 00:44:23,159
and called the State Police.
896
00:44:25,029 --> 00:44:27,797
So Dennis said,
"I can't give you my gun.
897
00:44:27,832 --> 00:44:29,766
That's a .357 Magnum."
898
00:44:31,202 --> 00:44:33,102
And the cop got pissed.
899
00:44:33,137 --> 00:44:36,138
And Dean and I urged
him to give him the gun.
900
00:44:36,173 --> 00:44:37,440
He handed him the gun,
901
00:44:37,475 --> 00:44:40,476
the trooper emptied
the magazine
902
00:44:40,511 --> 00:44:44,280
and gave him back the gun, but kept the bullets.
903
00:44:44,315 --> 00:44:47,850
Dennis said, "Those are custom made dumdum bullets."
904
00:44:47,885 --> 00:44:50,386
They're made to expand upon impact.
905
00:44:50,421 --> 00:44:53,222
Oh, man. The cops were boiling.
906
00:44:53,257 --> 00:44:55,157
So finally, I said,
907
00:44:55,192 --> 00:44:57,893
"Dennis, quit while you're ahead.
908
00:44:57,928 --> 00:44:59,161
They gave you the gun back,
909
00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:00,563
I'll buy you some bullets.
910
00:45:00,598 --> 00:45:02,131
Don't worry, let's get out of here."
911
00:45:02,166 --> 00:45:05,101
After the cop allowed us to leave,
912
00:45:05,136 --> 00:45:07,336
Dennis jumps in the truck puts it in gear,
913
00:45:07,371 --> 00:45:10,806
proceeds to rip the whole side of the police car.
914
00:45:10,841 --> 00:45:12,241
And I said, "Oh, my God!
915
00:45:12,276 --> 00:45:14,643
Look what you did, Dennis!"
916
00:45:14,678 --> 00:45:18,114
And he said, "All we haveto do is get the Indian land."
917
00:45:18,149 --> 00:45:20,416
And he kept telling us to point out the window at something.
918
00:45:20,451 --> 00:45:22,218
Point out the window, right.
919
00:45:22,253 --> 00:45:23,986
Divert their attention.
920
00:45:24,021 --> 00:45:25,521
That's what it was.
921
00:45:27,191 --> 00:45:28,458
It wasn't until Monday morning
922
00:45:30,127 --> 00:45:32,495
that the police came
923
00:45:34,365 --> 00:45:37,533
to the house
to get Dennis.
924
00:45:37,568 --> 00:45:40,536
Dennis was upstairs
in the cupboard...
925
00:45:43,507 --> 00:45:46,275
with his AK47.
926
00:45:47,278 --> 00:45:49,311
The Police Chief knocked on the door.
927
00:45:49,346 --> 00:45:53,315
He said, "I have a warrant for Dennis Hopper's arrest. Is he here?"
928
00:45:53,350 --> 00:45:56,252
I said, "You're welcome tocome in and look for yourself.
929
00:45:56,287 --> 00:45:57,620
Come right in, Officer.
930
00:46:01,392 --> 00:46:03,159
Yeah, the police wouldn't come in.
931
00:46:03,194 --> 00:46:04,393
They were afraid of Dennis.
932
00:46:04,428 --> 00:46:06,462
They knew they were outgunned.
933
00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:08,765
[telephone ringing]
934
00:46:17,007 --> 00:46:21,577
During the various sparse periods in Dennis' employment history,
935
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,714
he was made an offer
936
00:46:25,683 --> 00:46:27,983
by some obscure
937
00:46:28,018 --> 00:46:30,519
people at the end of the world
938
00:46:30,554 --> 00:46:33,956
south Atlantic Melbourne, Australia.
939
00:46:33,991 --> 00:46:38,160
There was not even a film industry in that country at the time.
940
00:46:38,195 --> 00:46:42,965
And besides, Dennis didn't
have any other offers.
941
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,433
Dennis was on our list.
942
00:46:45,069 --> 00:46:46,468
We'd seen Easy Rider.
943
00:46:46,503 --> 00:46:49,839
We didn't know
he'd been blacklisted
basically.
944
00:46:49,874 --> 00:46:50,807
We had no idea.
945
00:46:52,176 --> 00:46:53,943
But we rang up his agent
and we said,
946
00:46:53,978 --> 00:46:56,145
"Is Dennis Hopper available?"
947
00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:58,147
Well, is he available?
948
00:46:58,182 --> 00:47:01,483
The guy's face just
came through the telephone.
949
00:47:01,518 --> 00:47:03,052
"He's available, he's available!"
950
00:47:03,087 --> 00:47:07,223
Anyway, so we went to LA,
and we flew to
951
00:47:07,258 --> 00:47:09,525
Taos and we met you.
952
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,362
I remember that and I rememberbeautiful women waftingin and out...
953
00:47:14,064 --> 00:47:15,064
the house.
954
00:47:15,099 --> 00:47:16,866
[Satya] Those were the days.
955
00:47:16,901 --> 00:47:20,703
[Philippe] We didn't realize the seriousness of the whole situation.
956
00:47:20,738 --> 00:47:23,405
Dennis said that he had told Lew Wasserman,
957
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,344
who was God in Hollywood at the time, to get fucked.
958
00:47:28,379 --> 00:47:31,080
Which was the brief version. We flew back to Hollywood,
959
00:47:31,115 --> 00:47:34,717
where Martin Sheen wanted to do it, they all wanted to do it.
960
00:47:34,752 --> 00:47:37,286
And I called
Martin Sheen's agent
961
00:47:37,321 --> 00:47:39,755
and said, "We're going with
Dennis Hopper."
962
00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:43,325
And he said, "Well, you'll never work in this town again."
963
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,061
And I said, "Well,
I've never worked
in this town.
964
00:47:46,096 --> 00:47:47,129
It doesn't make
any difference."
965
00:47:47,164 --> 00:47:48,330
[Satya laughs]
966
00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:49,398
"We're going with Dennis."
967
00:47:49,433 --> 00:47:52,167
[man] Wham, bam,
right on the money.
968
00:47:52,202 --> 00:47:56,338
[Dennis] I remember Satya, my assistant and I, arriving,
969
00:47:56,373 --> 00:47:58,807
because I wanted to come a couple of weeks early
970
00:47:58,842 --> 00:48:01,443
so nobody could fool me about Australia.
971
00:48:01,478 --> 00:48:04,046
I'd have a head start on everybody.
972
00:48:04,081 --> 00:48:08,784
[Satya] My role as Dennis' right hand man evolved organically.
973
00:48:10,354 --> 00:48:12,187
He liked having a pal
974
00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:15,658
that was a like minded individual.
975
00:48:16,927 --> 00:48:18,861
Wait a minute.
976
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:20,930
He's fired, man.
977
00:48:20,965 --> 00:48:22,631
Hey, off the set.
978
00:48:22,666 --> 00:48:25,534
[Satya] It was one of those things that endeared me to Dennis,
979
00:48:25,569 --> 00:48:28,771
because he got to trust me more and more and more and more.
980
00:48:28,806 --> 00:48:31,473
And give me more and more latitude
981
00:48:31,508 --> 00:48:34,777
and longitude to exercise his will.
982
00:48:36,046 --> 00:48:39,348
It was dawn
in the Australian bush,
983
00:48:39,383 --> 00:48:41,617
which is beautiful anyway.
984
00:48:41,652 --> 00:48:45,955
The sun was coming up
and Dennis and I
were walking down
985
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:47,289
to the location.
986
00:48:47,324 --> 00:48:51,193
And Dennis suddenly grabbed me. He said,
987
00:48:51,228 --> 00:48:52,795
"Hey, man.
Isn't this fantastic?
988
00:48:52,830 --> 00:48:54,129
We're making a movie!"
989
00:48:54,164 --> 00:48:55,698
I've come for opium.
990
00:48:55,733 --> 00:49:00,336
[Satya] Dennis was Mad Dog Morgan personified.
991
00:49:00,371 --> 00:49:03,105
The method actor in him demanded
992
00:49:03,140 --> 00:49:06,508
that he go to the extremes that Mad Dog Morgan did.
993
00:49:06,543 --> 00:49:10,946
Clapboard, take six.
Bang, clang, powder puff.
Action.
994
00:49:10,981 --> 00:49:15,818
Some of which were to drink a quarter of rum every day.
995
00:49:15,853 --> 00:49:20,456
Other was to... go on adventures.
996
00:49:20,491 --> 00:49:22,257
[Philippe]
And I was concerned
997
00:49:22,292 --> 00:49:24,693
about Dennis' drinking.
998
00:49:24,728 --> 00:49:27,963
No one can do this and live.
999
00:49:27,998 --> 00:49:30,032
Dennis is a method actor.
1000
00:49:30,067 --> 00:49:32,634
A real method actor.
1001
00:49:32,669 --> 00:49:35,838
That means that he totally immerses himself,
1002
00:49:35,873 --> 00:49:37,940
subjugates his whole personality
1003
00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:39,775
to the part that he's playing.
1004
00:49:39,810 --> 00:49:41,276
Good beer down here
in Australia.
1005
00:49:41,311 --> 00:49:42,911
And so I said to Jeremy,
1006
00:49:42,946 --> 00:49:45,247
"Listen, this guy might just drop dead next week.
1007
00:49:45,282 --> 00:49:46,582
We gotta do something about it."
1008
00:49:46,617 --> 00:49:48,384
And he's, "What are we
gonna do?"
1009
00:49:48,419 --> 00:49:49,618
"I got an idea.
1010
00:49:49,653 --> 00:49:52,287
We're gonna cast
his face in plastic."
1011
00:49:52,322 --> 00:49:53,756
Oh, I remember.
1012
00:49:53,791 --> 00:49:57,359
"So when he
drops dead tomorrow,
we'll have the mask."
1013
00:49:57,394 --> 00:49:59,595
This is the paranoia.
Talking about the paranoia.
1014
00:49:59,630 --> 00:50:03,165
"So we'll have his mask
and I can do long shots
1015
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,867
of the stuntman riding,
1016
00:50:04,902 --> 00:50:08,937
and in the death scene in
the end we can use the mask."
1017
00:50:08,972 --> 00:50:11,140
And Jeremy says,
"Yeah, he's gonna drop dead.
1018
00:50:11,175 --> 00:50:12,508
Our careers are gonna
be over.
1019
00:50:12,543 --> 00:50:14,443
God, yeah, get the mask done."
1020
00:50:15,145 --> 00:50:16,912
So then Dennis
comes up to me.
1021
00:50:16,947 --> 00:50:21,750
He says, "Hey, man.
What's this mask thing
for my face?" to me.
1022
00:50:21,785 --> 00:50:24,853
I said, "Look,
I had this idea, Dennis.
1023
00:50:24,888 --> 00:50:27,089
You're riding along
on your horse,
1024
00:50:27,124 --> 00:50:30,159
you look up, you see
you own face against the sky,
1025
00:50:30,194 --> 00:50:32,094
and it blows up."
1026
00:50:32,129 --> 00:50:34,130
And Dennis goes,
"Far out, man.
1027
00:50:35,065 --> 00:50:36,532
That's far out, man.
1028
00:50:36,567 --> 00:50:38,367
Really far out.
Great."
1029
00:50:38,402 --> 00:50:40,169
And he walks off set.
1030
00:50:40,204 --> 00:50:42,805
At the end of the shoot
we're finished,
1031
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,940
you know, and, "Dennis,
you've been fantastic."
1032
00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:48,143
Which he was.
"Just incredible performance."
1033
00:50:48,178 --> 00:50:49,344
Which it was.
1034
00:50:49,379 --> 00:50:51,113
"Thank you so much."
1035
00:50:51,148 --> 00:50:52,548
He says, "Wait a minute.
1036
00:50:52,583 --> 00:50:54,349
We haven't shot the scene
where I'm on the horse,
1037
00:50:54,384 --> 00:50:56,485
I see my face and
it blows up."
1038
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,520
So we shoot that.
1039
00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:00,622
And Dennis again...
"Thank you, Dennis."
1040
00:51:00,657 --> 00:51:01,690
He says, "Wait a minute.
1041
00:51:01,725 --> 00:51:03,092
There's no death scene at the end."
1042
00:51:03,127 --> 00:51:07,563
And this is where I think
Dennis is a great actor.
1043
00:51:07,598 --> 00:51:10,232
I say to him,
"We've got the mask.
1044
00:51:10,267 --> 00:51:11,500
We've put that on a...
1045
00:51:11,535 --> 00:51:13,902
That's a...
That's a dead... you're dead.
1046
00:51:13,937 --> 00:51:16,538
You're dead.
We've got the mask.
You're dead."
1047
00:51:16,573 --> 00:51:18,107
"Wait a minute, man.
1048
00:51:18,142 --> 00:51:20,375
No one plays me dead.
1049
00:51:20,410 --> 00:51:22,611
I play me dead."
1050
00:51:22,646 --> 00:51:24,279
That's the great actor speaking.
1051
00:51:24,314 --> 00:51:25,914
Oh, I'll never forget that.
1052
00:51:25,949 --> 00:51:28,383
You're absolutely right
about that.
1053
00:51:28,418 --> 00:51:30,686
"No one plays me dead."
1054
00:51:33,624 --> 00:51:37,392
You know, you and I both
worked as right hand men
1055
00:51:37,427 --> 00:51:40,996
assisted in AD camps.
1056
00:51:41,031 --> 00:51:45,501
You were known as
the left-hand man
of Francis Coppola.
1057
00:51:45,536 --> 00:51:46,802
[Dingman]
Later when I'd be in
1058
00:51:46,837 --> 00:51:49,171
a social situation,
Dennis would say,
1059
00:51:49,206 --> 00:51:51,106
"Tony got me through
Apocalypse."
1060
00:51:51,141 --> 00:51:53,041
-Exactly.
-Which I kind of helped.
1061
00:51:53,076 --> 00:51:54,276
-Right.
-It's like that.
1062
00:51:54,311 --> 00:51:56,512
But what I knew was that
1063
00:51:56,547 --> 00:51:59,081
you had gotten him through
all the New Mexico wars.
1064
00:51:59,516 --> 00:52:00,783
You... All that.
1065
00:52:05,556 --> 00:52:07,789
[Dingman] It was the big Kurt's compound scene,
1066
00:52:07,824 --> 00:52:11,326
which as you know, he wasa vital part, the photographer.
1067
00:52:11,361 --> 00:52:13,729
We were told Dennis
is gonna be arriving.
1068
00:52:13,764 --> 00:52:15,197
He sent his bags up to the room.
1069
00:52:15,232 --> 00:52:17,699
We repaired to the bar, and he met all the guys.
1070
00:52:17,734 --> 00:52:20,102
All the stuntmen, all the special effects men,
1071
00:52:20,137 --> 00:52:21,136
all the other actors.
1072
00:52:21,172 --> 00:52:24,406
And it was solid from there on end.
1073
00:52:24,441 --> 00:52:27,809
[Francis] It's nice, becausethis is the momentwhen Chief dies,
1074
00:52:27,844 --> 00:52:31,280
and he looks up andhe sees this harlequin figure
1075
00:52:31,315 --> 00:52:33,182
waving all the people away.
1076
00:52:33,217 --> 00:52:35,517
He's like... essentially Dennis Hopper.
1077
00:52:35,552 --> 00:52:37,085
[indistinct]
1078
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,587
[siren blaring]
1079
00:52:40,557 --> 00:52:41,823
I'm in America!
1080
00:52:41,858 --> 00:52:44,193
Dennis Hopper
being a method actor
1081
00:52:44,228 --> 00:52:47,196
really revered Marlon Brando.
1082
00:52:47,231 --> 00:52:50,799
There's only love and hate.
You either love somebody,
or you hate 'em.
1083
00:52:52,135 --> 00:52:54,336
[Satya] Marlon refused tobe in the same room with him.
1084
00:52:54,371 --> 00:52:58,407
He only allowed him to be off camera at the back of the room.
1085
00:52:58,442 --> 00:53:02,011
Didn't you read...
Francis read some of
his stuff back?
1086
00:53:03,046 --> 00:53:04,746
-[Dingman] His lines?
-[Satya] Yeah.
1087
00:53:04,781 --> 00:53:06,048
[Dingman]
I think it was somebody. Somebody read his lines.
1088
00:53:06,083 --> 00:53:07,916
[Satya] One of the ADs, or something like that.
1089
00:53:07,951 --> 00:53:10,886
Like, there was an AD, uh, Larry Frankle.
1090
00:53:10,921 --> 00:53:12,854
He thought Dennis
was out of it.
1091
00:53:12,889 --> 00:53:14,389
-Didn't he?
-They all did.
1092
00:53:14,424 --> 00:53:18,560
[Satya] Did he every tell youanything about the figary?
1093
00:53:18,595 --> 00:53:23,565
[Dingman] They were an indigenous natives of the Philippines.
1094
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,567
They understood our pecking order.
1095
00:53:25,602 --> 00:53:27,236
They could read who Dennis was.
1096
00:53:27,271 --> 00:53:29,104
They knew he had strong mojo.
1097
00:53:29,139 --> 00:53:31,807
And they made him a medicine man.
1098
00:53:31,842 --> 00:53:33,775
For them,
he was a witch doctor.
1099
00:53:33,810 --> 00:53:38,313
So even they understood
what was going on.
1100
00:53:38,348 --> 00:53:39,414
[Satya]
It was pretty good. Yeah.
1101
00:53:39,449 --> 00:53:40,649
And Dennis was very proud of that.
1102
00:53:40,684 --> 00:53:41,950
[Dingman] There was one famous incident.
1103
00:53:41,985 --> 00:53:44,419
There was this weird guy
that came from Hong Kong,
1104
00:53:44,454 --> 00:53:45,887
with a Russian accent.
1105
00:53:45,922 --> 00:53:47,289
And he claimed he
was a banker.
1106
00:53:47,324 --> 00:53:48,790
Turned out he was
a banker.
1107
00:53:48,825 --> 00:53:50,959
Owned a bank.
But we didn't believe it.
1108
00:53:50,994 --> 00:53:55,163
And Dennis became convinced
that he was an assassin.
1109
00:53:55,198 --> 00:53:57,766
And so, we were up in the room,drinking and what not,
1110
00:53:57,801 --> 00:54:01,870
and we had a big spear from the indigenous Indians
1111
00:54:01,905 --> 00:54:04,172
and Dennis picked up the spear,
1112
00:54:04,207 --> 00:54:06,308
and he looked like he was
gonna throw it at the guy,
1113
00:54:06,343 --> 00:54:09,011
and he turned around
and he threw it in
the opposite direction.
1114
00:54:09,046 --> 00:54:10,312
The spear went
down the hallway,
1115
00:54:10,347 --> 00:54:12,781
made a turn, made a turn,
and came right back and
1116
00:54:12,816 --> 00:54:14,950
went right over
the guy's head
and stuck in the wall.
1117
00:54:14,985 --> 00:54:16,818
-He turned around--
-Wow.
1118
00:54:16,853 --> 00:54:19,888
He said, "This is for you,"
and then he threw it that way
and it came around...
1119
00:54:19,923 --> 00:54:21,556
The guy was scared.
He left.
1120
00:54:21,591 --> 00:54:22,724
Boomerang.
1121
00:54:22,759 --> 00:54:24,626
It's that little
mojo of Dennis. Yeah.
1122
00:54:24,661 --> 00:54:26,328
You see, Dennis was regarded
1123
00:54:27,698 --> 00:54:29,298
as a problem.
1124
00:54:29,333 --> 00:54:34,770
As a notorious disrupter, here in America.
1125
00:54:34,805 --> 00:54:38,874
But in Europe, he was regardedas a creative genius.
1126
00:54:38,909 --> 00:54:40,876
Dennis couldn't roam the Champs-Elysees
1127
00:54:40,911 --> 00:54:43,846
without a tsunami
of paparazzi
1128
00:54:44,781 --> 00:54:46,315
overcoming him.
1129
00:54:46,350 --> 00:54:47,883
I recall one time,
1130
00:54:47,918 --> 00:54:50,752
when we were trying
to get a cab,
1131
00:54:50,787 --> 00:54:53,822
thirty photographers
came out of nowhere,
1132
00:54:54,825 --> 00:54:56,792
and no cab would
stop for us.
1133
00:54:56,827 --> 00:54:58,994
I'd never seen anything like that.
1134
00:55:01,365 --> 00:55:03,565
The character of Tom Ripley
1135
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,400
was offered to John Cassavetes,
1136
00:55:05,435 --> 00:55:10,172
but he suggested that Dennis Hopper would make a much better Tom Ripley.
1137
00:55:10,207 --> 00:55:12,107
And Dennis got the role.
1138
00:55:13,944 --> 00:55:16,378
How do you
say that in German?
I'd love to hear it.
1139
00:55:16,413 --> 00:55:18,280
[speaking Russian]
1140
00:55:18,315 --> 00:55:20,282
[repeats Russian]
1141
00:55:20,317 --> 00:55:21,250
Yeah.
1142
00:55:21,852 --> 00:55:24,720
Well, Sam taught me a lot.
1143
00:55:24,755 --> 00:55:27,522
And a scene that I had with them,
1144
00:55:27,557 --> 00:55:29,424
I was saying,
1145
00:55:29,459 --> 00:55:32,294
as Dennis Hopper walked on the west side highway
1146
00:55:32,329 --> 00:55:33,628
in the...
1147
00:55:33,663 --> 00:55:35,698
You better watch
your step, cowboy.
1148
00:55:49,045 --> 00:55:52,448
-What was your impression
of him at that time?
-Of Dennis?
1149
00:55:53,216 --> 00:55:55,050
A very, uh...
1150
00:55:55,986 --> 00:55:59,087
artistic and
very suffering...
1151
00:55:59,122 --> 00:56:02,557
Like I could feel he was a very sensitive.
1152
00:56:02,592 --> 00:56:04,459
He had a Van Gogh quality.
1153
00:56:04,494 --> 00:56:05,694
He did.
1154
00:56:05,729 --> 00:56:08,063
-Uh, he did. I felt it.
-There's no doubt.
1155
00:56:08,098 --> 00:56:09,664
[Dennis]
Every director's different.
1156
00:56:09,699 --> 00:56:11,133
I think Wenders is probably
1157
00:56:11,168 --> 00:56:13,335
the best director maybe I've ever worked with,
1158
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:16,772
as far as just being sympathetic to the actor.
1159
00:56:16,807 --> 00:56:19,408
We had already shot for about a week,
1160
00:56:19,443 --> 00:56:21,310
and then Dennis arrived,
1161
00:56:22,746 --> 00:56:24,613
barely got sober,
1162
00:56:24,648 --> 00:56:29,718
and Bruno, that was his first movie.
1163
00:56:29,753 --> 00:56:33,989
He was as well prepared as a man can be.
1164
00:56:34,024 --> 00:56:37,459
And then came this man called Dennis Hopper,
1165
00:56:37,494 --> 00:56:39,428
who did not read the script,
1166
00:56:39,463 --> 00:56:41,463
who did not know his lines.
1167
00:56:41,498 --> 00:56:43,865
But when we were shooting,
1168
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:48,270
was right on, and damn good, and Bruno saw that.
1169
00:56:48,305 --> 00:56:51,306
And on the second day of shooting,
1170
00:56:51,341 --> 00:56:54,142
Dennis again improvised the heck out of the scene
1171
00:56:54,177 --> 00:56:56,878
and Bruno got lost with his lines,
1172
00:56:56,913 --> 00:56:58,780
and with his character.
1173
00:56:58,815 --> 00:57:01,082
And he stared at Dennis,
1174
00:57:01,117 --> 00:57:04,319
and then, in the middle of the shot,
1175
00:57:04,354 --> 00:57:06,855
put his fist into Dennis' face.
1176
00:57:08,258 --> 00:57:09,258
And Dennis,
1177
00:57:09,993 --> 00:57:11,827
like a lightning,
1178
00:57:11,862 --> 00:57:15,330
hit him with an upper cut, and hit him on the chin.
1179
00:57:15,365 --> 00:57:17,499
I mean, immediately.
1180
00:57:17,534 --> 00:57:19,434
And Bruno was on the floor,
1181
00:57:19,469 --> 00:57:20,702
and Dennis was over him.
1182
00:57:20,737 --> 00:57:23,638
And they were rolling around and there was blood.
1183
00:57:23,673 --> 00:57:25,407
And the costumes were done.
1184
00:57:25,442 --> 00:57:28,243
And it was the end of the day, because...
1185
00:57:28,278 --> 00:57:30,545
they were in no more shape to shoot.
1186
00:57:30,580 --> 00:57:34,082
And in the morning, they came together to the location,
1187
00:57:35,819 --> 00:57:37,619
drunk as hell,
1188
00:57:37,654 --> 00:57:39,621
in no condition to shoot.
1189
00:57:39,656 --> 00:57:41,423
But they came arm in arm.
1190
00:57:41,458 --> 00:57:43,658
And from then on,they were the best of friends.
1191
00:57:43,693 --> 00:57:47,162
And I don't know what I would have done if they hadn't fought it out.
1192
00:57:47,197 --> 00:57:48,430
I don't know.
1193
00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:49,931
[Satya] Everybody had a great feeling about it,
1194
00:57:49,966 --> 00:57:53,101
because Win was so sensitive,and the acting was really good.
1195
00:57:53,136 --> 00:57:57,706
Dennis, in particular, I think wanted to show
1196
00:57:57,741 --> 00:57:59,975
Wim, 'cause he believed in him,
1197
00:58:00,010 --> 00:58:05,046
that he was one of the best actors alive.
1198
00:58:05,081 --> 00:58:07,582
At one point in the film,
1199
00:58:07,617 --> 00:58:11,086
Dennis was called to improvise,
1200
00:58:11,121 --> 00:58:15,123
and he took the SX-70 Polaroid camera,
1201
00:58:15,792 --> 00:58:18,594
and kept shooting selfies.
1202
00:58:21,364 --> 00:58:25,501
Selfies while he was on
the pool table,
1203
00:58:26,202 --> 00:58:28,437
with the green felt background.
1204
00:58:29,539 --> 00:58:31,606
And he kept snapping them
1205
00:58:31,641 --> 00:58:33,074
in this sequence.
1206
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:35,710
It became riveting, the way he
1207
00:58:35,745 --> 00:58:37,379
used this prop.
1208
00:58:43,019 --> 00:58:44,453
[camera shutter snaps]
1209
00:58:52,963 --> 00:58:57,098
One of the props that Win Wenders introduced into The American Friend
1210
00:58:57,133 --> 00:58:58,733
was the pornographer's vehicle.
1211
00:58:58,768 --> 00:59:01,770
It was the coolest car you've ever seen.
1212
00:59:01,805 --> 00:59:04,372
A Mercedes ambulance.
1213
00:59:04,407 --> 00:59:07,509
"Dennis, help me out. Give me the money so I can buy this car."
1214
00:59:07,544 --> 00:59:10,078
He said, "No way."
1215
00:59:10,113 --> 00:59:12,480
I said, "You don't know a bargain when you see it."
1216
00:59:12,515 --> 00:59:15,350
Because that car was the best
vehicle I ever had.
1217
00:59:15,385 --> 00:59:19,154
The German standards for
emergency vehicles
were very strict.
1218
00:59:19,189 --> 00:59:21,156
And I could make a K-turn
1219
00:59:21,191 --> 00:59:23,592
in the same radius as a Volkswagen.
1220
00:59:24,361 --> 00:59:26,795
Came in handy,
especially when--
1221
00:59:26,830 --> 00:59:28,763
How long did you
keep that car for?
1222
00:59:28,798 --> 00:59:30,398
For a million miles.
1223
00:59:30,433 --> 00:59:32,667
[laughs]
1224
00:59:32,702 --> 00:59:35,503
The celebrities and
millionaires that I
hung out with
1225
00:59:35,538 --> 00:59:37,105
always got free clothes.
1226
00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:39,140
And I thought to myself,
"How can I...
1227
00:59:39,175 --> 00:59:40,742
compete with these guys
1228
00:59:40,777 --> 00:59:43,845
without spending
thousands of dollars?"
1229
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,349
The only way
I figured out was
1230
00:59:48,485 --> 00:59:49,551
accessories.
1231
00:59:50,553 --> 00:59:51,853
And we went to a disco,
1232
00:59:51,888 --> 00:59:54,256
and we were
hanging out and...
1233
00:59:55,358 --> 00:59:57,258
digging the crowd.
1234
00:59:57,293 --> 01:00:01,129
A beautiful young woman
came over to me and said,
1235
01:00:01,164 --> 01:00:04,399
"I'm nuts about
that embroidered vest
you have on.
1236
01:00:07,871 --> 01:00:09,437
Where can I get one?"
1237
01:00:09,472 --> 01:00:11,506
And I said,
"Come with me, young lady,
1238
01:00:11,541 --> 01:00:14,542
and you'll have all the vests
you'll ever need."
1239
01:00:14,577 --> 01:00:17,045
One of the few times
he was jealous of me.
1240
01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:22,017
He wasn't a jealous type.
1241
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:27,222
In the '70s,
we were jamming, partying...
1242
01:00:28,191 --> 01:00:31,026
Probably our work suffered.
1243
01:00:31,061 --> 01:00:34,663
But when I could see Dennis going over the edge,
1244
01:00:34,698 --> 01:00:37,132
I'd just lean over and say,
1245
01:00:37,534 --> 01:00:39,234
"Maintain, man."
1246
01:00:40,904 --> 01:00:46,041
In the early 80s, Dennis wasafforded the opportunityto direct a film
1247
01:00:46,810 --> 01:00:48,977
called Out of the Blue.
1248
01:00:49,012 --> 01:00:51,746
[Linda] Actually, I met him in the elevator.
1249
01:00:51,781 --> 01:00:53,548
Or by the elevator at the hotel.
1250
01:00:53,583 --> 01:00:55,984
-[Satya] In Vancouver?
-[Linda] Uh-huh.
1251
01:00:56,019 --> 01:01:00,155
And he told me he wastaking over being a director.
1252
01:01:00,190 --> 01:01:02,023
'cause I think we already
shot four weeks
1253
01:01:02,058 --> 01:01:04,159
into the movie with Leonard.
1254
01:01:05,295 --> 01:01:08,196
And then Dennis came
into the picture, and...
1255
01:01:09,666 --> 01:01:11,233
we started working together.
1256
01:01:12,001 --> 01:01:13,435
I mentioned when we started,
1257
01:01:13,470 --> 01:01:15,704
that Out of the Blue
seemed to me to be
1258
01:01:15,739 --> 01:01:16,971
a film of its time.
1259
01:01:17,006 --> 01:01:18,206
The punk generation.
1260
01:01:18,241 --> 01:01:20,508
In between Easy Rider and
Out of the Blue,
1261
01:01:20,543 --> 01:01:23,545
had you kind of assimilated
what was going on,
1262
01:01:23,580 --> 01:01:26,781
in the various changes
in fashion and style
and music?
1263
01:01:26,816 --> 01:01:31,052
I mean, how did you come
to feel about punk at that time?
1264
01:01:31,087 --> 01:01:32,954
I just saw it
written on the walls,
1265
01:01:32,989 --> 01:01:34,723
and I was listening to it
on the radio.
1266
01:01:34,758 --> 01:01:38,159
You hadn't decided
on the title at that time,
but you were--
1267
01:01:38,194 --> 01:01:40,462
I heard that
on the radio, too.
1268
01:01:40,497 --> 01:01:43,432
Neil's an old friend of mine.
I went...
1269
01:01:44,234 --> 01:01:46,034
Wow, that's the picture, man.
1270
01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:47,802
I can't use
Dead But Not Forgotten.
1271
01:01:47,837 --> 01:01:50,939
This is the story about
Johnny Rotten.
Thank you, Neil.
1272
01:01:50,974 --> 01:01:53,908
You worked with very
prominent directors,
1273
01:01:53,943 --> 01:01:56,745
like Terrence Malick,
David Fincher,
1274
01:01:56,780 --> 01:01:58,079
Philip Kaufman...
1275
01:01:58,114 --> 01:02:00,348
Terrific directors.
1276
01:02:00,383 --> 01:02:04,385
How would you compare Dennis' directing with their styles?
1277
01:02:04,420 --> 01:02:06,621
[Linda] He was more on the wild side. [laughs]
1278
01:02:07,824 --> 01:02:10,358
Was he willing to
take chances?
1279
01:02:10,393 --> 01:02:11,393
Yes.
1280
01:02:15,331 --> 01:02:17,532
And I got to
really admire Linda.
1281
01:02:17,567 --> 01:02:21,169
So I found out that
Linda played drums,
1282
01:02:21,204 --> 01:02:22,403
and played a little guitar.
1283
01:02:22,438 --> 01:02:23,671
And I said, "Put drums and
guitar in the room."
1284
01:02:23,706 --> 01:02:26,675
I never really knew
who Sid Vicious was.
1285
01:02:27,777 --> 01:02:29,611
Or Johnny Rotten
for that matter.
1286
01:02:30,313 --> 01:02:32,881
But Elvis, I knew Elvis.
1287
01:02:32,916 --> 01:02:33,915
Everybody left me.
1288
01:02:33,950 --> 01:02:35,417
My father left me.
1289
01:02:36,352 --> 01:02:38,153
Johnny Rotten left me.
1290
01:02:38,188 --> 01:02:40,255
Sid Vicious left me.
1291
01:02:40,290 --> 01:02:42,758
And now you, the King, has to leave me.
1292
01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:46,995
And here's Don Gordon with Dennis Hopper.
1293
01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:48,697
Wow.
One of his best buddies.
1294
01:02:49,766 --> 01:02:51,266
And this is Raymond Burr.
1295
01:02:51,301 --> 01:02:53,568
He played my shrink.
1296
01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:56,471
He told me he owned
an island in Fiji.
1297
01:02:56,506 --> 01:02:57,439
Mmm-hmm.
1298
01:02:57,474 --> 01:02:59,207
And I could go down there
any time I want.
1299
01:02:59,242 --> 01:03:00,608
But I never did. [laughs]
1300
01:03:00,643 --> 01:03:02,677
Well, it can't be as
remote as this part.
1301
01:03:02,712 --> 01:03:04,412
[Linda laughs]
1302
01:03:04,447 --> 01:03:06,614
You look very elegant here.
1303
01:03:06,649 --> 01:03:08,517
[Linda]
That's Cannes Film Festival.
1304
01:03:11,187 --> 01:03:13,922
You know, the movie
showed in France,
1305
01:03:13,957 --> 01:03:16,257
and was hugely
successful there.
1306
01:03:16,292 --> 01:03:18,893
Had over a million admissions.
1307
01:03:18,928 --> 01:03:21,863
Dennis hadn't directed anythingsince The Last Movie.
1308
01:03:21,898 --> 01:03:25,166
Here was the guy who had had the greatest success
1309
01:03:25,201 --> 01:03:27,669
of the '60s, with Easy Rider.
1310
01:03:27,704 --> 01:03:32,340
And yet, here it was, getting no distribution in the US.
1311
01:03:32,375 --> 01:03:36,311
I decided that we had to
distribute Out of the Blue.
1312
01:03:36,346 --> 01:03:37,979
And by "we", I mean me.
1313
01:03:38,014 --> 01:03:40,048
...say I don't write.
It's true.
1314
01:03:40,083 --> 01:03:44,419
But I didn't really want you
to see me in here like this,
you know.
1315
01:03:44,454 --> 01:03:46,888
This is where I've been for
the last five years, you know.
1316
01:03:49,325 --> 01:03:52,193
[John] I was just enthralled by it.
1317
01:03:52,228 --> 01:03:55,396
I thought of all the movies
that I've seen
1318
01:03:55,431 --> 01:03:57,365
in the tone of distribution,
1319
01:03:58,735 --> 01:04:00,368
this is the best.
1320
01:04:00,403 --> 01:04:02,937
People have to see this movie.
1321
01:04:02,972 --> 01:04:06,207
I remember a quote fromone of the European reviewers,
1322
01:04:06,242 --> 01:04:10,712
that it's a shocked complacency.
1323
01:04:11,681 --> 01:04:14,282
The Village Voice
did a full article.
1324
01:04:14,317 --> 01:04:16,417
New York Times did a great article.
1325
01:04:16,452 --> 01:04:20,154
And the LA Weekly said it wasthe finest American movie
1326
01:04:20,189 --> 01:04:22,724
in a very, very, very
long time.
1327
01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:26,428
[Jack]
♪ Hey, my, my ♪
1328
01:04:27,196 --> 01:04:29,530
This is Little Jacky Nicholson.
1329
01:04:29,565 --> 01:04:32,533
I wanna recommend a movie that I'm not in.
1330
01:04:32,568 --> 01:04:35,370
Dennis Hopper's movie
Out of the Blue.
1331
01:04:35,405 --> 01:04:38,106
First of all,I've never endorsed anything.
1332
01:04:38,141 --> 01:04:39,307
Even of my own.
1333
01:04:39,342 --> 01:04:41,609
But this would do
1334
01:04:41,644 --> 01:04:44,646
in the '80s exactly what
Easy Rider did
1335
01:04:44,681 --> 01:04:48,116
to kind of make the transitionfrom the '60s to the '70s.
1336
01:04:48,151 --> 01:04:50,318
It may piss them off,
1337
01:04:50,353 --> 01:04:52,887
but if a masterpiece comes along,
1338
01:04:52,922 --> 01:04:53,788
people should see it.
1339
01:04:53,823 --> 01:04:56,157
Okay, man!
Okay, all right, all right.
1340
01:04:56,192 --> 01:04:57,225
[woman] Oh, God.
What a...
1341
01:04:57,260 --> 01:04:58,559
You see this?
1342
01:04:58,594 --> 01:05:00,762
I'm a motherfucking asshole.
You know that?
1343
01:05:00,797 --> 01:05:05,099
I did five fucking years,
you know, in prison.
1344
01:05:05,134 --> 01:05:07,168
And there were a lot of other
kids in there besides yourself.
1345
01:05:07,203 --> 01:05:10,505
Now, am I gonna have to meet
every fucking asshole
like you man?
1346
01:05:10,540 --> 01:05:12,173
Look. I'm an asshole.
You see this?
1347
01:05:12,208 --> 01:05:13,475
You see this?
1348
01:05:14,711 --> 01:05:17,478
But I'm not a motherfucking
dumb asshole!
1349
01:05:17,513 --> 01:05:19,314
There's enough here
for two drinks.
1350
01:05:20,383 --> 01:05:23,652
Dennis Hopper, like most
big stars,
1351
01:05:24,287 --> 01:05:26,487
had a great ego.
1352
01:05:26,522 --> 01:05:30,325
But I never saw him exhibit
so much humility
1353
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,527
as when he was offered
1354
01:05:32,562 --> 01:05:35,063
the opportunity to direct.
1355
01:05:35,098 --> 01:05:37,732
And he became humble.
1356
01:05:37,767 --> 01:05:39,100
[Linda] Mmm-hmm.
1357
01:05:39,135 --> 01:05:42,303
[Satya] And I saw him reach a new plateau in his life
1358
01:05:42,338 --> 01:05:46,007
where he realized he may not get many more chances like this.
1359
01:05:47,076 --> 01:05:50,812
And he assumed a...
1360
01:05:51,881 --> 01:05:53,481
very humble position.
1361
01:05:55,151 --> 01:05:58,419
And, you know,
it's really helped me
1362
01:05:58,454 --> 01:06:01,923
understand him better
and respect him more.
1363
01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:03,558
-That movie was so powerful.
-So dramatic.
1364
01:06:03,593 --> 01:06:06,427
That was the best white trash
drama I've ever seen.
1365
01:06:06,462 --> 01:06:09,864
And you know, he did that
just before he went to
the nut house, you know.
1366
01:06:09,899 --> 01:06:11,199
Yeah. Yeah.
1367
01:06:11,234 --> 01:06:15,036
He was right at the peak
of his ability
to transform himself.
1368
01:06:15,805 --> 01:06:17,472
Dennis had told me,
1369
01:06:17,507 --> 01:06:21,242
"I'm gonna pull a stunt
to promote
1370
01:06:21,277 --> 01:06:22,644
Out of the Blue."
1371
01:06:24,580 --> 01:06:27,915
We had the TCP take
care of business.
1372
01:06:27,950 --> 01:06:30,852
[man] The guy's a little bit
wasted, but he knows
what he's doing.
1373
01:06:31,387 --> 01:06:32,487
I'm confident.
1374
01:06:32,522 --> 01:06:34,455
[woman]
What's gonna happen?
1375
01:06:34,490 --> 01:06:37,158
He's a real
technological genius,
1376
01:06:37,193 --> 01:06:38,226
Dennis Hopper.
1377
01:06:38,261 --> 01:06:39,660
[man] He's really gonna do it?
1378
01:06:39,695 --> 01:06:42,630
You'll find out when
he blows himself up.
1379
01:06:42,665 --> 01:06:44,665
When he backs up
and this stuff's live.
1380
01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:48,436
And a two way radio will
set off that dynamite
right now,
1381
01:06:48,471 --> 01:06:50,138
so let's just be cool
for a minute here.
1382
01:06:50,173 --> 01:06:52,807
I said, "Dennis,
you are not Houdini."
1383
01:06:53,976 --> 01:06:56,544
I told him, "I'm washing
my hands off it.
1384
01:06:56,579 --> 01:06:58,713
I'm not having anything
to do with it."
1385
01:07:00,316 --> 01:07:01,816
[loud explosion]
1386
01:07:01,851 --> 01:07:04,819
[announcer] Dennis Hopper, ladies and gentlemen.
1387
01:07:04,854 --> 01:07:05,987
[people cheering]
1388
01:07:08,758 --> 01:07:10,191
Hey, man. Whoo!
1389
01:07:10,226 --> 01:07:11,559
Whoo!
1390
01:07:12,562 --> 01:07:14,395
I wanna tell you one thing.
1391
01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:16,031
That ain't no joke, boys.
1392
01:07:18,801 --> 01:07:21,403
What did I tell you
when he got back? He...
1393
01:07:22,438 --> 01:07:24,072
He was triumphant.
1394
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:29,210
Not triumphant in my eyes.
1395
01:07:29,245 --> 01:07:31,412
I thought he was
going more and more
1396
01:07:31,447 --> 01:07:33,014
off the rails.
1397
01:07:34,750 --> 01:07:36,918
That's when I knew I couldn't
1398
01:07:36,953 --> 01:07:40,388
really intercede on his behalf anymore.
1399
01:07:59,575 --> 01:08:01,109
I used to be somebody else.
1400
01:08:03,379 --> 01:08:04,879
I used to be somebody
1401
01:08:05,748 --> 01:08:07,782
more interesting than
I am now.
1402
01:08:12,622 --> 01:08:14,589
[Satya] I realized that he needed
1403
01:08:14,624 --> 01:08:16,524
professional custodial help.
1404
01:08:17,693 --> 01:08:20,595
His drinking and alcoholism had
1405
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:22,530
gotten to the point where
1406
01:08:22,565 --> 01:08:24,999
I couldn't help him
anymore.
1407
01:08:25,034 --> 01:08:28,202
Nor could any of those
surrounding him,
1408
01:08:28,237 --> 01:08:29,838
his family or friends.
1409
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,580
No mail yet.
1410
01:08:40,816 --> 01:08:44,685
Cocaine problems are
the topic of the program.
1411
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:50,758
I brought to Dennis' attention
a piece by Dr. Sidney Cohen
1412
01:08:50,793 --> 01:08:54,729
from the Drug Abuse and
Alcoholism Newsletter, 1982.
1413
01:08:55,565 --> 01:08:57,465
I got him in the ambulance.
1414
01:08:59,001 --> 01:09:01,569
We were driving down Olympic Boulevard.
1415
01:09:03,039 --> 01:09:05,974
And I tell him, "Dennis,
I'm doing you a favor."
1416
01:09:07,610 --> 01:09:10,244
He said to me,
"What are you doing?"
1417
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:13,481
I said, "I'm taking you
to rehab."
1418
01:09:15,885 --> 01:09:17,252
He goes, "Oh, no. You're not."
1419
01:09:18,087 --> 01:09:19,854
I said, "Yes, you are."
1420
01:09:22,625 --> 01:09:25,326
And he said, "I told you,
1421
01:09:25,361 --> 01:09:28,663
I'm not going to rehab."
1422
01:09:28,698 --> 01:09:33,034
I said, "Dennis, you'll either
die or be in prison soon."
1423
01:09:35,071 --> 01:09:36,104
He laughed at me.
1424
01:09:37,974 --> 01:09:40,241
And he said, "I'm getting
out of the ambulance."
1425
01:09:40,276 --> 01:09:41,409
I said, "Go ahead."
1426
01:09:41,444 --> 01:09:43,844
And I shifted it to second,
went about 75.
1427
01:09:43,879 --> 01:09:45,379
He didn't jump out of the car.
1428
01:09:45,414 --> 01:09:46,881
I said,
"You won't jump out.
1429
01:09:46,916 --> 01:09:50,618
You don't wanna mess up
that pretty boy face
of yours, do you?
1430
01:09:50,653 --> 01:09:52,887
And sure enough,
he didn't.
1431
01:09:52,922 --> 01:09:54,189
We got to, uh,
1432
01:09:54,924 --> 01:09:56,057
New Beginnings.
1433
01:09:56,092 --> 01:09:57,892
And the guys with the white
suits were ready for him.
1434
01:09:59,228 --> 01:10:00,295
He went in.
1435
01:10:01,230 --> 01:10:03,131
Reluctantly,
but he did go in.
1436
01:10:06,636 --> 01:10:09,737
Several hours later,
I was home in bed,
1437
01:10:09,772 --> 01:10:12,307
I got a phone call
in the middle of the night.
1438
01:10:13,876 --> 01:10:16,244
When the shifts had changed
at the hospital,
1439
01:10:18,314 --> 01:10:19,547
and they said...
1440
01:10:21,284 --> 01:10:25,886
"Are you the person that
was in charge of the intake
1441
01:10:25,921 --> 01:10:31,025
of Dennis Hopper,
one of our residents here?
1442
01:10:31,594 --> 01:10:33,628
I said, "Yes."
1443
01:10:33,663 --> 01:10:36,097
They said, "Well,
you better get down here,
1444
01:10:36,132 --> 01:10:38,866
'cause he is losing it.
1445
01:10:39,935 --> 01:10:42,971
He is speaking in tongues."
1446
01:10:45,541 --> 01:10:47,875
So I jumped in my ambulance,
1447
01:10:49,178 --> 01:10:50,444
drove down there.
1448
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,580
Dennis was on triple lock.
1449
01:10:53,683 --> 01:10:57,685
That is,
to get into the facility
1450
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,487
that he was being
attended to,
1451
01:10:59,522 --> 01:11:02,790
you had to go through
three glass doors.
1452
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,295
The security was
very tight.
1453
01:11:07,330 --> 01:11:11,766
I could see
through the glass door,
Dennis was against the wall,
1454
01:11:11,801 --> 01:11:14,769
moving his hands
against the wall,
1455
01:11:14,804 --> 01:11:18,072
almost trying to
feel something.
1456
01:11:18,941 --> 01:11:21,442
And he was yelling
some stuff,
1457
01:11:21,477 --> 01:11:24,245
which was barely intelligible
1458
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,047
beyond those doors.
1459
01:11:28,351 --> 01:11:30,952
When I finally got in there,
I realized what it was.
1460
01:11:33,656 --> 01:11:37,158
He was saying,
"Satya, Satya!"
1461
01:11:37,193 --> 01:11:41,295
But the new shift, they didn't
realize who Satya was.
1462
01:11:41,330 --> 01:11:42,697
That being me.
1463
01:11:42,732 --> 01:11:46,033
And they thought
he was talking gibberish.
1464
01:11:46,068 --> 01:11:49,670
Well, he thought that
the guys in the white suits
1465
01:11:49,705 --> 01:11:52,674
had plastered me
into the wall.
1466
01:11:54,677 --> 01:11:55,843
That is...
1467
01:11:56,912 --> 01:11:58,746
the dimension of his...
1468
01:11:59,582 --> 01:12:01,349
problem.
1469
01:12:01,384 --> 01:12:03,384
The DTs had taken over.
1470
01:12:04,653 --> 01:12:06,987
Dennis was really
in big trouble.
1471
01:12:07,022 --> 01:12:09,357
I gently put my hand
on his shoulder,
1472
01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:13,061
and said, "Dennis, it's okay.
I'm here.
1473
01:12:14,196 --> 01:12:15,396
I'm here, Dennis."
1474
01:12:17,032 --> 01:12:19,233
And he turned and saw me...
1475
01:12:20,269 --> 01:12:21,669
Smiled...
1476
01:12:25,241 --> 01:12:26,807
And then...
1477
01:12:26,842 --> 01:12:30,311
His attendants came in,
gave him some Valium,
1478
01:12:30,846 --> 01:12:31,979
put him to sleep.
1479
01:12:46,695 --> 01:12:48,363
I just gotta relax
for a second.
1480
01:13:02,211 --> 01:13:04,078
[solemn music playing]
1481
01:13:05,314 --> 01:13:10,918
When Dennis made his return from his darkest times,
1482
01:13:11,687 --> 01:13:12,920
that was about--
1483
01:13:12,955 --> 01:13:14,155
[Russ] That's when he came over here a lot.
1484
01:13:14,190 --> 01:13:15,723
[Satya] Yeah, that's what I was gonna--
1485
01:13:15,758 --> 01:13:17,158
[Russ] And he was walking on the beach.
1486
01:13:17,193 --> 01:13:18,359
That was a pretty...
1487
01:13:18,394 --> 01:13:19,760
That was
a pretty dark time,
1488
01:13:19,795 --> 01:13:21,729
and he was very quiet then.
1489
01:13:21,764 --> 01:13:23,330
[Satya] He was
very fragile then.
1490
01:13:23,365 --> 01:13:24,766
[Russ] Very fragile.
1491
01:13:26,302 --> 01:13:28,502
That's when he moved.
1492
01:13:28,537 --> 01:13:30,504
When he found that
place in Venice
1493
01:13:30,539 --> 01:13:33,207
that he moved into.
1494
01:13:33,242 --> 01:13:37,778
I must have been
in this alley
a few thousand times.
1495
01:13:37,813 --> 01:13:39,947
This is the alley
where Dennis
1496
01:13:39,982 --> 01:13:43,084
bought the first Frank Gehry
house here in Venice.
1497
01:13:44,987 --> 01:13:47,255
Well, the house was very important in his...
1498
01:13:48,357 --> 01:13:49,390
rejuvenation.
1499
01:13:49,425 --> 01:13:53,060
because that was right
when he got into rehab.
1500
01:13:53,095 --> 01:13:58,499
And I brought his
entire collection from
Taos, New Mexico.
1501
01:14:00,202 --> 01:14:03,170
I didn't really know he was
paying attention to me,
1502
01:14:03,205 --> 01:14:04,505
until one day,
1503
01:14:05,908 --> 01:14:07,875
he gave me a catalog
of his,
1504
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:09,910
which said something like,
1505
01:14:09,945 --> 01:14:12,680
"You're the greatest ever," or something.
1506
01:14:12,715 --> 01:14:15,816
Something so bloody flattering
1507
01:14:15,851 --> 01:14:19,620
that I looked at it and I thought,
1508
01:14:19,655 --> 01:14:22,189
"He'd been looking at
what I'd been doing, I guess."
1509
01:14:22,224 --> 01:14:26,160
And it was really
over the top.
1510
01:14:26,195 --> 01:14:29,931
I think it was the first time
I ever got
a compliment like that.
1511
01:14:42,244 --> 01:14:44,011
[Fred] Let me tell you a story.
1512
01:14:44,046 --> 01:14:45,412
I was working for
Dino DeLorenzo,
1513
01:14:45,447 --> 01:14:48,382
so I was executive in charge
of production at the studio.
1514
01:14:48,417 --> 01:14:49,783
Dino came to me and said,
1515
01:14:49,818 --> 01:14:53,120
"I wanna make this movie with David Lynch."
1516
01:14:53,155 --> 01:14:55,489
I called David in, we sat down, we talked.
1517
01:14:55,524 --> 01:14:59,026
He said, "I want Dennis to star in the movie."
1518
01:14:59,061 --> 01:15:00,561
I said, "Okay.
You think he can do it?"
1519
01:15:00,596 --> 01:15:04,231
And he says, "I want
Dean Stockwell as best buddy."
1520
01:15:04,266 --> 01:15:08,002
His character, Frank Booth
was out there, you know.
1521
01:15:08,037 --> 01:15:09,904
You got the oxygen thing
he's taking on.
1522
01:15:09,939 --> 01:15:13,274
Just totally set up
for Dennis to go crazy with.
1523
01:15:13,309 --> 01:15:14,975
It's funny when we were rehearsing
1524
01:15:15,010 --> 01:15:16,777
on the live set there,
1525
01:15:16,812 --> 01:15:18,145
and Dennis disappeared for a while.
1526
01:15:18,180 --> 01:15:19,446
I think he went to the john.
1527
01:15:19,481 --> 01:15:22,383
And he comes out
with this light bulb thing.
1528
01:15:22,418 --> 01:15:25,219
The screen thing you use
for a microphone.
1529
01:15:25,254 --> 01:15:27,855
He comes out with that
and hands it to me,
and I used it.
1530
01:15:30,659 --> 01:15:33,160
[Dennis] You know, when I'm hired as an actor,
1531
01:15:33,195 --> 01:15:34,962
I come to work as an actor.
1532
01:15:34,997 --> 01:15:38,065
And contrary to what anybody might
1533
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:40,334
have thought about how I would behave.
1534
01:15:41,870 --> 01:15:44,038
My personal life I was difficult.
1535
01:15:45,341 --> 01:15:46,374
But, uh...
1536
01:15:47,343 --> 01:15:50,210
But it never interfered with my work.
1537
01:15:50,245 --> 01:15:52,479
It interfered with people giving me jobs,
1538
01:15:52,514 --> 01:15:55,049
because my mood swings were like tremendous.
1539
01:15:55,084 --> 01:15:57,785
Like, I'd go from one thing to another,
1540
01:15:57,820 --> 01:16:02,189
but you know, what's so funny is none of the people here
1541
01:16:03,392 --> 01:16:05,092
have ever worked with me before.
1542
01:16:06,428 --> 01:16:10,030
Dennis and David Lynch
working together.
1543
01:16:10,065 --> 01:16:12,633
How would you
characterize the way
1544
01:16:12,668 --> 01:16:14,168
they worked together?
1545
01:16:14,203 --> 01:16:18,839
How did Dennis and
Jack Nicholson work together
1546
01:16:18,874 --> 01:16:20,207
on Easy Rider?
1547
01:16:20,909 --> 01:16:22,242
Famously.
1548
01:16:22,277 --> 01:16:24,178
That's the word. Famously.
1549
01:16:28,450 --> 01:16:30,050
[Lynch] You know, life is strange.
1550
01:16:30,085 --> 01:16:32,286
There's a thing called fate.
1551
01:16:32,321 --> 01:16:35,055
And this was all about fate.
1552
01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:37,524
There's a lot of things you can do,
1553
01:16:37,559 --> 01:16:38,859
you know, with an actor.
1554
01:16:38,894 --> 01:16:40,394
You can talk till the cows come home.
1555
01:16:40,429 --> 01:16:43,864
But if they don't have it inside,
1556
01:16:43,899 --> 01:16:47,635
it doesn't ever really resonate100% honest.
1557
01:16:47,670 --> 01:16:49,470
Dennis was Frank.
1558
01:16:49,505 --> 01:16:51,772
He knew all about Frank.
1559
01:16:51,807 --> 01:16:54,175
He was absolutely perfect.
1560
01:17:00,649 --> 01:17:02,016
[laughter]
1561
01:17:09,892 --> 01:17:11,425
[gunshots ringing]
1562
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:14,895
[Lynch] Action.
Tampa 133, take three.
Mark.
1563
01:17:14,930 --> 01:17:16,697
[woman] Frank does not
like himself.
1564
01:17:19,702 --> 01:17:21,369
And wasn't he the greatest?
1565
01:17:22,671 --> 01:17:24,005
[Lynch] Action.
1566
01:17:25,074 --> 01:17:27,007
Speak to me, fucker.
1567
01:17:27,042 --> 01:17:28,609
[speaking indistinctly]
1568
01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:37,685
[indistinct dialog]
1569
01:17:43,325 --> 01:17:46,260
It's a bullet straight
from my gun, fucker.
1570
01:17:52,501 --> 01:17:54,268
[Lynch] When Dennis was watching
1571
01:17:54,303 --> 01:17:57,104
Dorothy on the stage singing Blue Velvet,
1572
01:17:58,006 --> 01:18:00,307
he... he started crying.
1573
01:18:01,210 --> 01:18:04,512
And that was really beautiful.
1574
01:18:05,881 --> 01:18:07,114
Yeah.
1575
01:18:23,132 --> 01:18:24,364
[Fred]
As far as I'm concerned,
1576
01:18:24,399 --> 01:18:26,166
he was not dead in Hollywood.
1577
01:18:26,201 --> 01:18:28,168
He was just sleeping.
1578
01:18:28,203 --> 01:18:29,903
And we had to wake him up.
1579
01:18:29,938 --> 01:18:31,872
The little bit that I was able to help,
1580
01:18:31,907 --> 01:18:33,674
David Lynch was able to help,
1581
01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:34,775
He woke up.
1582
01:18:34,810 --> 01:18:38,879
He woke up and he flew higher
and faster and wider
1583
01:18:38,914 --> 01:18:41,448
than ever before
and anybody since then.
1584
01:18:41,483 --> 01:18:44,651
When you start
counting actors on your
1585
01:18:44,686 --> 01:18:46,053
ten fingers,
1586
01:18:46,088 --> 01:18:47,988
Dennis is in one of ten.
1587
01:18:48,023 --> 01:18:50,591
Dennis was no longer
a pariah in Hollywood.
1588
01:18:51,693 --> 01:18:53,160
[operatic music]
1589
01:18:55,330 --> 01:18:57,498
Okay, let's see what
we got here.
1590
01:18:57,533 --> 01:18:59,066
Oh, this is, uh...
1591
01:18:59,101 --> 01:19:00,501
a daily racing form.
1592
01:19:02,137 --> 01:19:03,904
Can't be without that.
1593
01:19:03,939 --> 01:19:05,572
Most people
don't realize that
1594
01:19:05,607 --> 01:19:09,643
a lot of the alternative
musicians and artists
1595
01:19:09,678 --> 01:19:11,812
were really big fans
of Dennis Hopper.
1596
01:19:11,847 --> 01:19:16,150
Including Morrissey,
the lead singer
from The Smiths.
1597
01:19:16,185 --> 01:19:19,186
They chose one of
Dennis' photographs
1598
01:19:19,221 --> 01:19:21,522
of the biker couple
1599
01:19:21,557 --> 01:19:26,894
for the cover to their album
Best of The Smiths.
1600
01:19:26,929 --> 01:19:29,663
He reached a new plateau in his career
1601
01:19:29,698 --> 01:19:32,332
with the portrayal of Frank Booth.
1602
01:19:32,367 --> 01:19:34,968
The buzz in Hollywood was that
1603
01:19:35,003 --> 01:19:37,404
Dennis Hopper was back better than ever.
1604
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,440
And this made him bankable once again.
1605
01:19:40,475 --> 01:19:44,077
So Dennis Hopper got offeredto direct Colors.
1606
01:19:44,112 --> 01:19:45,679
Nobody knew more about
gangs than Dennis,
1607
01:19:45,714 --> 01:19:47,648
'cause they were right
in his backyard.
1608
01:19:47,683 --> 01:19:48,782
In his own alley.
1609
01:19:48,818 --> 01:19:51,118
[Paul]
Sean and Bob Duvall loved him.
1610
01:19:51,153 --> 01:19:52,286
Loved the work
that he did.
1611
01:19:52,321 --> 01:19:53,487
Loved the way he worked.
1612
01:19:53,522 --> 01:19:57,758
It was an amazing film for its period
1613
01:19:57,793 --> 01:20:00,494
and its time in the examination of what it did.
1614
01:20:00,529 --> 01:20:03,363
You know, that was
his re-entry so to speak.
1615
01:20:03,398 --> 01:20:04,464
Well, I have a big hit.
1616
01:20:04,499 --> 01:20:07,734
I think it was a big
financial success
1617
01:20:07,769 --> 01:20:09,269
called Colors.
1618
01:20:09,304 --> 01:20:12,172
It was number one in the nation, so...
1619
01:20:12,207 --> 01:20:13,774
That's successful.
1620
01:20:13,809 --> 01:20:14,942
[laughing]
1621
01:20:14,977 --> 01:20:17,478
The great thing with Dennis
was he sold the absurd...
1622
01:20:18,747 --> 01:20:20,614
side of life...
1623
01:20:20,649 --> 01:20:23,650
and found it humorous
at all points.
1624
01:20:23,685 --> 01:20:26,386
He said to me about the script,
he said,
1625
01:20:26,421 --> 01:20:30,524
"Ha! Yeah, man.
Script, man.
1626
01:20:30,559 --> 01:20:34,094
Fuck a script.
It's just a fucking
blueprint, man.
1627
01:20:34,129 --> 01:20:35,996
That ain't a movie."
1628
01:20:36,031 --> 01:20:37,764
I said, "Yeah, you're right.
1629
01:20:37,799 --> 01:20:38,899
Karl Marx.
1630
01:20:38,934 --> 01:20:40,201
Jesus Christ.
1631
01:20:41,069 --> 01:20:42,636
Peter Fonda.
1632
01:20:42,671 --> 01:20:47,674
And the sun in God's mouth
is an artist by the name
of Lyn Faulks.
1633
01:20:47,709 --> 01:20:49,443
These are things out
of the '60s.
1634
01:20:49,478 --> 01:20:52,713
This is a box,
a drawing by a man...
1635
01:20:52,748 --> 01:20:55,415
This is Conor who is
my favorite filmmaker.
1636
01:20:55,450 --> 01:20:56,350
Experimental filmmaker.
1637
01:20:56,385 --> 01:20:59,186
He made small,
short films.
1638
01:20:59,221 --> 01:21:01,588
This is Julian Schnabel.
1639
01:21:01,623 --> 01:21:04,524
[Julian]
Brilliant. He was just...
1640
01:21:04,559 --> 01:21:07,060
It's great to get the ball back in your court.
1641
01:21:07,095 --> 01:21:08,962
The fact that I
lit up this cigarette
1642
01:21:08,997 --> 01:21:10,264
reminded me of Dennis
1643
01:21:10,299 --> 01:21:12,299
smoking that Chesterfield
1644
01:21:12,334 --> 01:21:16,637
in that scene between Chris
and him in True Romance.
1645
01:21:17,406 --> 01:21:19,439
I have that Chesterfield now.
1646
01:21:19,474 --> 01:21:21,074
[Mark]
He was somebody who as an icon.
1647
01:21:21,109 --> 01:21:23,010
An American icon already.
1648
01:21:23,045 --> 01:21:27,381
And so, he totally was
able to
1649
01:21:27,416 --> 01:21:29,883
wrap himself around
being an artist
and being a painter.
1650
01:21:29,918 --> 01:21:31,752
It wasn't like Jack Lord
1651
01:21:31,787 --> 01:21:33,687
or one of these guys that, you know,
1652
01:21:33,722 --> 01:21:36,857
they went off and they did sunsets in the backyard.
1653
01:21:36,892 --> 01:21:40,294
Dennis did paintings
that had
1654
01:21:40,329 --> 01:21:42,129
real gravitas to 'em.
1655
01:21:42,164 --> 01:21:44,131
And I think he was
a pioneer.
1656
01:21:44,166 --> 01:21:47,401
He's rare. He came back
from Lew Wasserman.
1657
01:21:47,436 --> 01:21:50,938
He came back and started his career over again.
1658
01:21:50,973 --> 01:21:52,773
[Ed]
He sort of re-invented
1659
01:21:53,942 --> 01:21:56,677
this three letter word M-A-N.
1660
01:21:56,712 --> 01:22:00,280
And nobody said "man" like Dennis Hopper.
1661
01:22:00,315 --> 01:22:01,848
Wow, man. Look at that.
1662
01:22:01,883 --> 01:22:04,184
That's dramatic, man.
1663
01:22:04,219 --> 01:22:05,919
Look at that.
1664
01:22:05,954 --> 01:22:10,123
[Satya] In fact, one time when he was talking to his wife,
1665
01:22:10,158 --> 01:22:13,694
he said, "Hey, man.,
don't do that."
1666
01:22:13,729 --> 01:22:15,862
And I said,
"That's your wife.
1667
01:22:15,897 --> 01:22:17,497
'Man' is masculine.
1668
01:22:17,532 --> 01:22:19,800
How could you refer to her
as man?
1669
01:22:19,835 --> 01:22:22,803
That's because you're
habituated in a way in
saying that, Dennis."
1670
01:22:22,838 --> 01:22:25,739
[Dennis] Easy Rider was reallythe first independent film.
1671
01:22:25,774 --> 01:22:29,476
I thought of the bike
as the United States.
1672
01:22:29,511 --> 01:22:33,280
I thought of it as
a beautiful chrome machine
1673
01:22:33,315 --> 01:22:35,315
with all the money
in the gas tank.
1674
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:38,452
I also thought of us
as a criminal society
1675
01:22:38,487 --> 01:22:40,454
that we love our outlaws.
1676
01:22:40,489 --> 01:22:45,392
That's when Dennis Hopper
knocked my socks off
1677
01:22:45,427 --> 01:22:46,760
in that talk.
1678
01:22:46,795 --> 01:22:49,296
[Satya] Right. He was waxing poetic that evening.
1679
01:22:49,331 --> 01:22:51,865
The world is your sound stage.
Go do it.
1680
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:54,001
That's the message I got
out of France,
1681
01:22:54,036 --> 01:22:55,202
and that's what I did.
1682
01:22:55,237 --> 01:22:56,837
And I realized that,
you know,
1683
01:22:56,872 --> 01:22:59,773
you could take this guy
to Harvard and give
a lecture, right?
1684
01:22:59,808 --> 01:23:02,509
Which I wouldn't have
thought of before.
1685
01:23:02,544 --> 01:23:04,611
I remember being
a little...
1686
01:23:06,314 --> 01:23:10,117
unsure what to expect
when we were waiting
for him to arrive
1687
01:23:10,152 --> 01:23:11,251
at the studio.
1688
01:23:11,286 --> 01:23:12,986
Because it was
Dennis Hopper of course.
1689
01:23:13,021 --> 01:23:17,391
[Damon]
We had this kind of sort of strange little story,
1690
01:23:17,426 --> 01:23:19,793
that we wanted told on Demon Days.
1691
01:23:19,828 --> 01:23:22,729
And he seemed really up for it.
1692
01:23:22,764 --> 01:23:25,198
We asked him if he'd come and perform with us
1693
01:23:25,233 --> 01:23:26,600
at the Apollo in Harlem.
1694
01:23:26,635 --> 01:23:29,102
Which was, I still think,
one of the best things
1695
01:23:29,137 --> 01:23:30,704
I've been involved with.
1696
01:23:30,739 --> 01:23:32,906
While we were working
on this book...
1697
01:23:32,941 --> 01:23:35,075
Eighteen-and-a-half years
of work it took.
1698
01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:37,411
I had all the photos.
1699
01:23:37,446 --> 01:23:40,480
Toni Basil, Teri Garr
Bruce Conner in the bathtub.
1700
01:23:40,515 --> 01:23:41,782
Famous pictures.
Anyway...
1701
01:23:41,817 --> 01:23:45,052
So these are all pictures
that Dennis Hopper took,
1702
01:23:45,087 --> 01:23:47,821
which are among the greatest
pictures of the '60s.
1703
01:23:47,856 --> 01:23:49,589
[Satya] That's Clazton's wife.
1704
01:23:49,624 --> 01:23:50,791
Yeah. I mean, look at the...
1705
01:23:50,826 --> 01:23:52,759
It's that
Rudi Gernreich outfit, right?
1706
01:23:52,794 --> 01:23:53,993
Beautiful style.
1707
01:23:54,029 --> 01:23:57,097
The Metropolitan Museum ended
up using this shot for example.
1708
01:23:58,300 --> 01:24:00,467
[Satya] Dennis was like
1709
01:24:01,036 --> 01:24:03,437
a precious gem.
1710
01:24:03,472 --> 01:24:06,407
And a gem needs to be polished
1711
01:24:07,375 --> 01:24:09,610
to attain its true brilliance.
1712
01:24:19,754 --> 01:24:22,856
I wanna make a person to person call.
1713
01:24:22,891 --> 01:24:24,758
[telephone ringing]
1714
01:24:26,228 --> 01:24:27,728
Hello? Who's this?
1715
01:24:28,864 --> 01:24:30,731
Oh, I'm asking
who's calling.
1716
01:24:31,733 --> 01:24:33,166
Satya?
1717
01:24:33,201 --> 01:24:34,601
Tell him I'm busy.
1718
01:24:34,636 --> 01:24:37,370
Yeah. Tell him I'm doing
an interview
about Dennis Hopper.
1719
01:24:37,405 --> 01:24:38,639
All right. Thanks.
1720
01:24:40,842 --> 01:24:43,510
I had started talking to
him about writing.
1721
01:24:43,545 --> 01:24:45,846
And he read some of
my writing.
1722
01:24:45,881 --> 01:24:48,248
And then he ended up
writing the foreword
for this book for me.
1723
01:24:48,283 --> 01:24:49,816
He actually wrote...
1724
01:24:49,851 --> 01:24:53,420
The foreward to it is
very, very complimentary.
1725
01:24:53,455 --> 01:24:55,422
I wrote this poem about him...
1726
01:24:55,824 --> 01:24:58,425
[reading poem]
1727
01:25:04,232 --> 01:25:06,633
"Waiting for me to come
out of the men's room...
1728
01:25:07,169 --> 01:25:08,235
I walked past the bar
1729
01:25:08,270 --> 01:25:10,470
and I saw Dennis
standing outside
1730
01:25:10,505 --> 01:25:13,173
leaning against the wall
at the bottom of the stairs
1731
01:25:13,208 --> 01:25:16,309
with his arms folded.
He was wearing sunglasses.
1732
01:25:16,344 --> 01:25:20,647
I kept walking, because,
you know,
I just wanted to get to it.
1733
01:25:20,682 --> 01:25:22,916
But, you know,
for that second, I...
1734
01:25:22,951 --> 01:25:25,018
I thought of Dennis and
1735
01:25:25,053 --> 01:25:27,988
exactly what I was
looking at, all the years,
1736
01:25:28,490 --> 01:25:30,490
all the things,
1737
01:25:30,525 --> 01:25:33,560
all the people,
all the ideas,
1738
01:25:33,595 --> 01:25:37,597
all the good, all the bad,
all the happiness,
1739
01:25:37,632 --> 01:25:40,767
all the movies, all the time,
all the found,
1740
01:25:40,802 --> 01:25:43,703
all the lost,
all the rain,
1741
01:25:43,738 --> 01:25:46,139
all the pleasure,
all the art,
1742
01:25:46,174 --> 01:25:48,441
all the booze,
all the blow,
1743
01:25:48,476 --> 01:25:50,443
all the love,
all the hate,
1744
01:25:50,478 --> 01:25:54,381
all the horror,
all the kids, all the ass,
1745
01:25:54,416 --> 01:25:57,317
all the money,
all the pages, all the words,
1746
01:25:57,352 --> 01:25:58,685
all the walls,
all the everything,
1747
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,520
all the sunglasses,
1748
01:26:00,555 --> 01:26:03,690
at the bottom of the stairs,
right there, right then
1749
01:26:03,725 --> 01:26:06,593
was for sure the most
beautiful sight
I had that day."
1750
01:26:13,134 --> 01:26:15,268
Well, he was sure...
1751
01:26:15,303 --> 01:26:16,836
He kept it right up,
didn't he?
1752
01:26:16,871 --> 01:26:19,439
I mean,
what I was amazed at
1753
01:26:19,474 --> 01:26:21,975
was the film that Dennis did, Elegy.
1754
01:26:23,111 --> 01:26:25,145
With Kingsley.
1755
01:26:25,180 --> 01:26:26,246
Ben Kingsley, yeah.
1756
01:26:26,281 --> 01:26:28,848
Dennis dies in the film.
1757
01:26:28,883 --> 01:26:31,685
It's the last thing he did
up there in Vancouver.
1758
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,553
Is that the last thing
that he did?
1759
01:26:33,588 --> 01:26:36,290
No, the Palermo project
in Sicily was.
1760
01:26:36,791 --> 01:26:38,158
Oh.
1761
01:26:38,193 --> 01:26:40,560
And he played
Death in that.
1762
01:26:40,595 --> 01:26:43,664
I'm tired of having
to play the bad guy.
1763
01:26:44,833 --> 01:26:46,800
I'm gentle and tender.
1764
01:26:49,838 --> 01:26:51,872
People see me
as cruel.
1765
01:26:53,675 --> 01:26:55,642
I'm the opening.
1766
01:26:56,845 --> 01:27:00,147
I'm the connecting door,
not the dead end.
1767
01:27:02,317 --> 01:27:03,584
[sighs heavily]
1768
01:27:05,086 --> 01:27:07,054
I'm the only way out.
1769
01:27:09,591 --> 01:27:12,392
So nice to see you
again, Satya.
1770
01:27:12,427 --> 01:27:13,727
It's been a while.
1771
01:27:14,396 --> 01:27:17,364
It wasn't since the...
1772
01:27:17,399 --> 01:27:20,533
Wenders film that
we worked together.
1773
01:27:20,568 --> 01:27:22,736
The Palermo project.
1774
01:27:22,771 --> 01:27:25,872
Yeah. That was when...
When was that? That was...
1775
01:27:26,341 --> 01:27:28,041
2008, right?
1776
01:27:29,344 --> 01:27:32,412
They all... The numbers just
squish together to me.
1777
01:27:32,447 --> 01:27:33,847
Yeah.
1778
01:27:33,882 --> 01:27:35,716
I don't remember numbers.
1779
01:27:36,318 --> 01:27:37,784
When I shaved his head,
1780
01:27:37,819 --> 01:27:41,821
I saw him, like, looking into
the makeup mirror,
1781
01:27:41,856 --> 01:27:45,091
and he got really
very quiet.
1782
01:27:45,126 --> 01:27:46,660
He got very intense.
1783
01:27:46,695 --> 01:27:48,695
[Satya] Well, he was evolving into his character
1784
01:27:48,730 --> 01:27:50,330
as he sat in your chair,
1785
01:27:50,365 --> 01:27:51,798
in your hands.
1786
01:27:51,833 --> 01:27:53,300
You saw the transformation.
1787
01:27:53,335 --> 01:27:55,368
[Barbara] Yeah, I could
really see that in his eyes.
1788
01:27:55,403 --> 01:27:58,672
[Satya] And very dramatic with a character actor like Dennis.
1789
01:28:00,241 --> 01:28:02,242
This was his last performance
1790
01:28:02,277 --> 01:28:03,810
in a feature film.
1791
01:28:04,679 --> 01:28:06,747
I'll always
remember Dennis
1792
01:28:08,650 --> 01:28:12,619
confiding in me
and saying,
1793
01:28:12,654 --> 01:28:15,022
"Which one of us is
gonna go first?"
1794
01:28:16,024 --> 01:28:17,891
[both laughing]
1795
01:28:19,994 --> 01:28:22,662
And just like
you said earlier,
1796
01:28:22,697 --> 01:28:24,564
the guy was so strong,
1797
01:28:24,599 --> 01:28:26,266
so powerful,
1798
01:28:26,301 --> 01:28:30,070
such a dynamic,
creative force,
1799
01:28:30,105 --> 01:28:33,106
that I never really thought
that he would go.
1800
01:28:33,141 --> 01:28:35,342
Right.
You kinda didn't believe it.
1801
01:28:35,377 --> 01:28:36,409
Right.
1802
01:28:36,444 --> 01:28:37,878
He came here,
1803
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,815
I would say a month
before he died.
1804
01:28:43,718 --> 01:28:45,986
And he was
obviously in pain.
1805
01:28:47,088 --> 01:28:51,091
And he wanted a tour of
the office, look at stuff.
1806
01:28:52,761 --> 01:28:55,195
Which was...
And I knew he was dying.
1807
01:28:56,498 --> 01:28:57,798
And...
1808
01:29:00,135 --> 01:29:04,071
It was very touching for me
that he did that.
1809
01:29:07,108 --> 01:29:09,743
And the last time
I saw Dennis Hopper,
1810
01:29:10,678 --> 01:29:12,278
was on Hollywood Boulevard,
1811
01:29:12,313 --> 01:29:16,183
when he was getting a star
at the Walk of Fame.
1812
01:29:16,918 --> 01:29:18,418
The limousine pulls up,
1813
01:29:18,453 --> 01:29:21,955
and I happened to be
right where that
limousine pulled up.
1814
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:24,824
The door opens,
and there's Dennis.
1815
01:29:24,859 --> 01:29:27,927
He looked at me and
he said,
"Fred, where's Satya?"
1816
01:29:27,962 --> 01:29:31,097
[Dennis]
Everyone here today that...
1817
01:29:31,132 --> 01:29:35,034
that I've invited and
obviously some that
I haven't invited...
1818
01:29:35,069 --> 01:29:36,936
[laughter]
1819
01:29:36,971 --> 01:29:40,340
Have enriched my life
tremendously.
1820
01:29:41,609 --> 01:29:42,709
[people clapping]
1821
01:29:42,744 --> 01:29:46,246
I'd like to thank my friend
1822
01:29:46,281 --> 01:29:51,752
Satya De La Manitou for having this dream for 40 years.
1823
01:29:56,124 --> 01:30:00,059
The last time I saw him
and the last words I
heard from him.
1824
01:30:00,094 --> 01:30:01,528
I don't know if you knew that.
You didn't know that?
1825
01:30:01,563 --> 01:30:02,695
I didn't know that.
1826
01:30:02,730 --> 01:30:04,631
Yeah. "Where's Satya?"
1827
01:30:04,666 --> 01:30:06,233
[Satya] Thank you, Freddie.
1828
01:30:07,802 --> 01:30:09,136
He's the best.
1829
01:30:10,338 --> 01:30:12,138
We had good times
making movies, huh?
1830
01:30:12,173 --> 01:30:14,941
Yeah.
1831
01:30:14,976 --> 01:30:17,544
Maybe he didn't take
care of himself,
I don't know.
1832
01:30:17,579 --> 01:30:20,747
I mean, you get multiple
stories about it.
1833
01:30:21,282 --> 01:30:22,916
But, um...
1834
01:30:22,951 --> 01:30:26,486
But he no doubt
left his mark
1835
01:30:26,521 --> 01:30:30,824
on the entire scene.
1836
01:30:30,859 --> 01:30:32,426
[Satya]
This is the original script
1837
01:30:33,561 --> 01:30:35,695
of Easy Rider.
1838
01:30:35,730 --> 01:30:37,497
Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper
and Terry Southern.
1839
01:30:37,532 --> 01:30:38,731
That was prepared in
the beginning.
1840
01:30:38,766 --> 01:30:41,034
Then you see
wonderful photographs.
Look at that.
1841
01:30:41,069 --> 01:30:42,836
And there are...
Well, there are...
Let's see.
1842
01:30:42,871 --> 01:30:44,838
There are other ones. You remember when they bike
1843
01:30:44,873 --> 01:30:46,272
they go to the gas station.
1844
01:30:46,307 --> 01:30:48,908
So throughout the film
there are a lot of
interesting pictures
1845
01:30:48,943 --> 01:30:51,845
which correlate, uh,
1846
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,346
to the scenes.
1847
01:30:53,381 --> 01:30:56,616
Of course we know it was
one of the greatest movies
of all.
1848
01:30:56,651 --> 01:30:58,651
So to see all of that
in preparation
1849
01:30:58,686 --> 01:31:00,120
is incredible, you know.
1850
01:31:02,724 --> 01:31:04,524
I gotta handle this carefully.
1851
01:31:06,461 --> 01:31:09,029
Yeah. That's Dennis
on the floor on the last shot.
1852
01:31:12,901 --> 01:31:14,634
Buddy Billy.
1853
01:31:14,669 --> 01:31:17,036
End of the movie.
Amazing.
1854
01:31:17,071 --> 01:31:18,572
It's something,
isn't it?
1855
01:31:23,811 --> 01:31:25,178
Well...
1856
01:31:26,381 --> 01:31:28,915
I had some trips
with Dennis, you know.
I mean...
1857
01:31:28,950 --> 01:31:31,851
going to New York City is
a whole different experience
with Dennis.
1858
01:31:31,886 --> 01:31:33,686
Going to Mexico City.
Whole different--
1859
01:31:33,721 --> 01:31:35,255
[Satya] Going to
dinner with him is--
1860
01:31:35,290 --> 01:31:37,223
Taking a drive through
the Altiplano
1861
01:31:37,258 --> 01:31:39,359
to Chincheros
at 15,000 feet
1862
01:31:39,394 --> 01:31:42,529
beneath a 23,000 foot
Sacred Mountain is a trip.
1863
01:32:07,655 --> 01:32:08,955
[telephone ringing]
1864
01:32:16,531 --> 01:32:17,464
Yeah.
1865
01:32:18,399 --> 01:32:20,233
[solemn music playing]
1866
01:32:51,666 --> 01:32:52,999
[Satya] And I believe that...
1867
01:32:55,236 --> 01:32:57,704
a man like Dennis comes around
1868
01:32:57,739 --> 01:33:00,407
once every 500 years.
1869
01:33:02,076 --> 01:33:03,944
The 20th century
1870
01:33:05,113 --> 01:33:08,648
had many great men.
1871
01:33:08,683 --> 01:33:13,153
But artistically, Dennis certainly was in the top 10.
1872
01:33:15,323 --> 01:33:17,190
See him wasted
1873
01:33:17,225 --> 01:33:19,125
in his jacket and his jeans,
1874
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,794
wearing yesterday's
misfortune
1875
01:33:21,829 --> 01:33:23,696
like a crown.
1876
01:33:23,731 --> 01:33:25,365
Once he had a future
1877
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,567
full of money, love,
and dreams.
1878
01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:31,704
Which you wasted
1879
01:33:31,739 --> 01:33:33,540
like they were
going out of style.
1880
01:33:38,646 --> 01:33:40,180
[thunder rumbling]
1881
01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:58,131
[thunder continues rumbling]
1882
01:34:24,859 --> 01:34:26,726
[thunder rumbles]
1883
01:35:25,353 --> 01:35:27,754
[thunder continues rumbling]
1884
01:36:20,208 --> 01:36:22,408
[Satya] You know, here in Los Angeles,
1885
01:36:22,443 --> 01:36:24,277
there's thousands of Satyas.
1886
01:36:25,112 --> 01:36:26,279
That is...
1887
01:36:28,115 --> 01:36:31,184
people that work below the radar,
1888
01:36:33,955 --> 01:36:35,622
doing thankless jobs.
1889
01:36:36,224 --> 01:36:38,024
Assisting luminaries,
1890
01:36:38,059 --> 01:36:41,227
celebrities, artists,
1891
01:36:41,262 --> 01:36:43,663
authors, auteurs...
1892
01:36:44,866 --> 01:36:46,165
whatever.
1893
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,334
All these right hand men and women,
1894
01:36:48,369 --> 01:36:50,737
they just wanna keep
the engine moving.
1895
01:37:05,820 --> 01:37:09,823
♪♪
1896
01:37:45,860 --> 01:37:49,863
♪♪
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