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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,250 ["Pure Imagination" playing] 2 00:00:08,251 --> 00:00:12,041 [Willy Wonka] ♪ Come with me and you'll be 3 00:00:12,042 --> 00:00:15,834 in a world of pure imagination ♪ 4 00:00:15,835 --> 00:00:16,915 [soft music] 5 00:00:16,916 --> 00:00:20,084 [man] He was a combination of innocence and danger. 6 00:00:20,085 --> 00:00:21,499 - Champagne? - You didn't know 7 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:22,916 what Gene Wilder was gonna do. 8 00:00:22,917 --> 00:00:24,457 [energetic music] 9 00:00:24,458 --> 00:00:27,333 [Carol Kane] He was an actor who had an ability... 10 00:00:27,334 --> 00:00:30,041 - [laughing maniacally] - ...to be funny. 11 00:00:30,499 --> 00:00:31,415 Hello! 12 00:00:31,416 --> 00:00:32,770 [screaming] 13 00:00:32,771 --> 00:00:34,124 [laughing] 14 00:00:34,125 --> 00:00:35,791 [Mel Brooks] He's naive, he's innocent. 15 00:00:35,792 --> 00:00:36,708 Oops. 16 00:00:36,709 --> 00:00:39,541 [Mel Brooks] He's sweet, simple, and honest. 17 00:00:39,542 --> 00:00:42,375 But when he got excited, he was a volcano. 18 00:00:42,376 --> 00:00:45,374 - [zapping] - Life! 19 00:00:45,375 --> 00:00:48,333 [woman] He had a unique ability to find humor. 20 00:00:48,334 --> 00:00:50,083 I never thought it could be like this. 21 00:00:50,084 --> 00:00:51,375 [woman] In anything. 22 00:00:51,376 --> 00:00:52,833 [sheep bleats] 23 00:00:52,834 --> 00:00:54,207 I'm wet! 24 00:00:54,208 --> 00:00:57,103 [Mel Brooks] You'll never find another Gene Wilder. 25 00:00:57,104 --> 00:01:00,000 [Gene Wilder] I didn't think Jerry Silberman 26 00:01:00,001 --> 00:01:01,500 had the right ring to it. 27 00:01:02,458 --> 00:01:05,833 I wanted to be... Wilder. 28 00:01:05,834 --> 00:01:08,416 [bright music] 29 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:25,000 [soft, bright music] 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,082 Suppose you're walking out of the Plaza Hotel 31 00:01:32,083 --> 00:01:35,165 in New York City on a warm spring day. 32 00:01:35,166 --> 00:01:38,124 You want to go directly across the street to Fifth Avenue, 33 00:01:38,125 --> 00:01:41,083 but the Plaza fountain is directly in your path. 34 00:01:42,583 --> 00:01:43,665 You can get to Fifth Avenue 35 00:01:43,666 --> 00:01:45,353 by walking around the fountain 36 00:01:45,354 --> 00:01:47,040 on the path to your left, 37 00:01:47,041 --> 00:01:50,040 or by taking the path to your right. 38 00:01:50,041 --> 00:01:53,458 I believe that whichever choice you make 39 00:01:53,459 --> 00:01:55,665 could change your life. 40 00:01:55,666 --> 00:01:56,707 I'm sure everyone has had 41 00:01:56,708 --> 00:01:59,499 these mysterious brushes with irony, 42 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:03,208 perhaps referring to them years later as "almost fate." 43 00:02:07,708 --> 00:02:09,875 January, 1963. 44 00:02:12,250 --> 00:02:14,082 Jerome Robbins was going to direct 45 00:02:14,083 --> 00:02:17,500 Bertolt Brecht's play Mother Courage on Broadway 46 00:02:17,501 --> 00:02:20,249 with Anne Bancroft as the star. 47 00:02:20,250 --> 00:02:22,124 Fate must be working its magic, 48 00:02:22,125 --> 00:02:25,000 because if he hadn't miscast me in Mother Courage, 49 00:02:25,001 --> 00:02:27,145 I wouldn't have met Anne Bancroft. 50 00:02:27,146 --> 00:02:29,290 If I hadn't met Anne Bancroft, 51 00:02:29,291 --> 00:02:31,749 I wouldn't have met Mel Brooks. 52 00:02:31,750 --> 00:02:34,207 If I hadn't met Mel Brooks, 53 00:02:34,208 --> 00:02:35,832 I would probably be a patient 54 00:02:35,833 --> 00:02:37,999 in some neuropsychiatric hospital 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,166 looking through the bars of a physical therapy window 56 00:02:41,167 --> 00:02:43,228 as I made wallets. 57 00:02:43,229 --> 00:02:45,291 [dramatic music] 58 00:02:46,083 --> 00:02:48,040 [soft, bright music] 59 00:02:48,041 --> 00:02:50,416 We opened previews at the Martin Beck Theatre 60 00:02:50,417 --> 00:02:53,082 to a packed house. 61 00:02:53,083 --> 00:02:55,250 Anne Bancroft's boyfriend came to pick her up 62 00:02:55,251 --> 00:02:57,415 each night after the show. 63 00:02:57,416 --> 00:03:00,186 The boyfriend's name was Mel Brooks. 64 00:03:00,187 --> 00:03:02,958 [Mel Brooks] We were heavily engaged 65 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:05,124 and heavily in love. 66 00:03:05,125 --> 00:03:11,458 {\an8}She kept telling me about this weird, strange, 67 00:03:11,459 --> 00:03:14,541 very talented guy in the cast... 68 00:03:14,542 --> 00:03:15,707 [soft music] 69 00:03:15,708 --> 00:03:19,207 ...who had innocence, blessed with innocence, 70 00:03:19,208 --> 00:03:23,249 and she knew that I was writing a rough draft of... 71 00:03:23,250 --> 00:03:26,437 then it was called Springtime for Hitler. 72 00:03:26,438 --> 00:03:29,624 Later I changed it to The Producers. 73 00:03:29,625 --> 00:03:33,353 And she knew that I had this character, Leo Bloom, 74 00:03:33,354 --> 00:03:37,083 and she said, "I think he's Leo Bloom on the hoof, 75 00:03:37,084 --> 00:03:39,124 he's right there, he's... 76 00:03:39,125 --> 00:03:41,166 He's naive, he's innocent." 77 00:03:43,958 --> 00:03:45,457 So I saw the show, 78 00:03:45,458 --> 00:03:47,041 and I kept watching it every night, 79 00:03:47,042 --> 00:03:48,625 and I agreed with her and I said, 80 00:03:48,626 --> 00:03:50,708 "That's my Leo Bloom." 81 00:03:50,709 --> 00:03:52,790 I want to meet him. 82 00:03:52,791 --> 00:03:56,874 I met him backstage at the Martin Beck Theatre. 83 00:03:56,875 --> 00:03:58,791 [Gene Wilder] When I met Mel for the first time, 84 00:03:58,792 --> 00:04:00,790 he was wearing a black pea jacket, 85 00:04:00,791 --> 00:04:04,250 it was the kind made famous by the Merchant Marines. 86 00:04:04,251 --> 00:04:06,708 So he said, "That's a pea coat." 87 00:04:06,709 --> 00:04:08,000 And I... you know, and... 88 00:04:09,250 --> 00:04:12,083 the Borscht Belt comic in me said, 89 00:04:12,084 --> 00:04:14,729 "No, no, that's too vulgar. 90 00:04:14,730 --> 00:04:17,374 I call it a urine coat." 91 00:04:17,375 --> 00:04:19,708 And he really grabbed his belly 92 00:04:19,709 --> 00:04:22,415 and really laughed. 93 00:04:22,416 --> 00:04:24,332 I immediately fell in love with him. 94 00:04:24,333 --> 00:04:28,375 You get a terrific real laugh out of somebody. 95 00:04:28,376 --> 00:04:30,291 And Gene was a great laugher. 96 00:04:30,292 --> 00:04:32,915 [soft music] 97 00:04:32,916 --> 00:04:35,166 [Gene Wilder] Despite Anne's Academy Award that year 98 00:04:35,167 --> 00:04:37,165 for The Miracle Worker, 99 00:04:37,166 --> 00:04:39,583 Mother Courage closed after three months. 100 00:04:41,416 --> 00:04:43,249 [boat horn blares] 101 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:45,082 [curious music] 102 00:04:45,083 --> 00:04:47,624 Mel asked if I would like to spend a weekend 103 00:04:47,625 --> 00:04:50,165 with him and Anne on Fire Island. 104 00:04:50,166 --> 00:04:51,957 [Mel Brooks] And I invited him out 105 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:54,833 to our house on the beach for a weekend. 106 00:04:54,834 --> 00:04:55,790 [seagull squawks] 107 00:04:55,791 --> 00:04:58,959 [Gene Wilder] After dinner, Mel asked Anne and me to sit down, 108 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,166 and then he began reading the first three scenes 109 00:05:01,167 --> 00:05:03,457 of Springtime for Hitler 110 00:05:03,458 --> 00:05:06,103 almost verbatim as they eventually appeared on screen. 111 00:05:06,104 --> 00:05:08,750 [Mel Brooks] Gee, you could make more money... 112 00:05:08,751 --> 00:05:11,790 ...with a flop than he could with a hit. 113 00:05:11,791 --> 00:05:14,478 You keep saying that, but you don't tell me how? 114 00:05:14,479 --> 00:05:17,165 How can a producer make more money with a flop 115 00:05:17,166 --> 00:05:18,166 than he could with a hit? 116 00:05:18,167 --> 00:05:21,291 I read 37 pages, that's all I had, 117 00:05:21,292 --> 00:05:23,249 introducing Leo Bloom fully. 118 00:05:23,250 --> 00:05:25,208 But you still look angry. 119 00:05:25,209 --> 00:05:26,687 [shrieks] 120 00:05:26,688 --> 00:05:28,166 How's this? 121 00:05:29,708 --> 00:05:30,999 Good. 122 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,000 That's good. 123 00:05:33,250 --> 00:05:34,790 That's very nice. 124 00:05:34,791 --> 00:05:37,583 I thought I saw a little tear run down his... 125 00:05:37,584 --> 00:05:39,937 "And you want me to play that?" 126 00:05:39,938 --> 00:05:43,197 I said, "Yes, I want you to play 127 00:05:43,198 --> 00:05:46,458 that simple, beautiful, innocent, 128 00:05:46,459 --> 00:05:48,332 good-natured accountant." 129 00:05:48,333 --> 00:05:50,520 - [soft music] - [waves crashing] 130 00:05:50,521 --> 00:05:52,708 [Gene Wilder] I loved it. 131 00:05:52,709 --> 00:05:54,125 I said yes. 132 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,750 I wondered, "How can a few words 133 00:05:57,751 --> 00:06:00,665 change your life?" 134 00:06:00,666 --> 00:06:03,375 [interviewer] You originally were Jerry Silberman. 135 00:06:03,376 --> 00:06:05,332 Yes, and I think there's... 136 00:06:05,333 --> 00:06:08,625 somewhere inside he's still there lurking around. 137 00:06:08,626 --> 00:06:11,082 [soft music] 138 00:06:11,083 --> 00:06:12,958 I used to be Jerry Silberman 139 00:06:13,666 --> 00:06:15,603 from Milwaukee. 140 00:06:15,604 --> 00:06:17,541 [energetic music] 141 00:06:20,041 --> 00:06:21,540 When I was eight years old, 142 00:06:21,541 --> 00:06:23,708 my mother had her first heart attack. 143 00:06:23,709 --> 00:06:25,374 [somber music] 144 00:06:25,375 --> 00:06:27,582 After my father brought her home from the hospital, 145 00:06:27,583 --> 00:06:30,333 her heart specialist came to see how she was doing. 146 00:06:32,791 --> 00:06:36,583 He grabbed my right arm and whispered in my ear, 147 00:06:36,584 --> 00:06:39,166 "Don't ever argue with your mother. 148 00:06:39,167 --> 00:06:40,541 You might kill her. 149 00:06:41,958 --> 00:06:43,500 Try to make her laugh." 150 00:06:45,625 --> 00:06:48,582 If he hadn't said those two sentences, 151 00:06:48,583 --> 00:06:51,541 I might have gone into used car salesman 152 00:06:51,542 --> 00:06:53,207 or something like that. 153 00:06:53,208 --> 00:06:56,958 Or a concert violinist or perhaps a painter. 154 00:06:56,959 --> 00:06:58,957 [soft music] 155 00:06:58,958 --> 00:07:01,041 [Rochelle] Well, Aunt Jeanne was always ill, 156 00:07:01,042 --> 00:07:04,957 and Jerry just adored her. 157 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:08,083 {\an8}He did try to be funny, he tried to amuse her, 158 00:07:08,084 --> 00:07:11,457 {\an8}he tried to do things to make her laugh. 159 00:07:11,458 --> 00:07:14,666 [Gene Wilder] I had thought often about being a comedian. 160 00:07:14,667 --> 00:07:17,875 Mostly because I had seen Danny Kaye in Up in Arms. 161 00:07:17,876 --> 00:07:20,500 [scat singing] 162 00:07:22,833 --> 00:07:27,415 Danny Kaye was, I think, very special to him. 163 00:07:27,416 --> 00:07:29,478 [Gene Wilder] And then Jerry Lewis on television. 164 00:07:29,479 --> 00:07:31,540 [Jerry Lewis] Let's keep it quiet, buddy. 165 00:07:31,541 --> 00:07:33,583 [Gene Wilder] And then for me the king of them all, 166 00:07:33,584 --> 00:07:36,415 was Sid Caesar on Your Show of Shows. 167 00:07:36,416 --> 00:07:39,290 I did Jewish accents and German accents. 168 00:07:39,291 --> 00:07:41,353 And I did make my mother laugh. 169 00:07:41,354 --> 00:07:43,415 Every once in a while, 170 00:07:43,416 --> 00:07:44,957 if I was a little too successful, 171 00:07:44,958 --> 00:07:47,082 she'd run into the bathroom squealing, 172 00:07:47,083 --> 00:07:49,625 "Oh, Jerry, now look what you've made me do!" 173 00:07:49,626 --> 00:07:51,374 [door slams] 174 00:07:51,375 --> 00:07:53,957 [Rochelle] She had a wonderful sense of humor. 175 00:07:53,958 --> 00:07:56,541 I think Gene probably got some of it from her. 176 00:07:56,542 --> 00:07:57,707 [overlapping chatter] 177 00:07:57,708 --> 00:07:59,625 [Gene Wilder] And then when I started acting... 178 00:07:59,626 --> 00:08:01,874 [overlapping chatter] 179 00:08:01,875 --> 00:08:03,957 ...she always thought that I was good, 180 00:08:03,958 --> 00:08:06,000 and that gave me the confidence to go on. 181 00:08:06,001 --> 00:08:08,040 - Sorry, sir. - [soft music] 182 00:08:08,041 --> 00:08:10,750 [Rochelle] I think he loved the stage best of all. 183 00:08:11,750 --> 00:08:13,375 He just belonged there. 184 00:08:13,376 --> 00:08:16,790 [bright music] 185 00:08:16,791 --> 00:08:19,125 [Gene Wilder] I was asked to take over Alan Arkin's role 186 00:08:19,126 --> 00:08:21,166 in Luv on Broadway. 187 00:08:22,583 --> 00:08:23,624 It had now been three years 188 00:08:23,625 --> 00:08:25,874 since I'd heard from Mel Brooks. 189 00:08:25,875 --> 00:08:27,750 I'd given up hopes of being Leo Bloom 190 00:08:27,751 --> 00:08:29,333 in Springtime for Hitler. 191 00:08:31,207 --> 00:08:33,373 I was taking off my makeup one day 192 00:08:33,374 --> 00:08:35,540 when someone knocked on my dressing room door. 193 00:08:35,541 --> 00:08:36,457 [knocking] 194 00:08:36,458 --> 00:08:38,750 - I opened the door... - [door opens] 195 00:08:38,751 --> 00:08:40,290 ...and there was Mel. 196 00:08:40,291 --> 00:08:43,374 Mel said, "You don't think I forgot, do you?" 197 00:08:43,375 --> 00:08:45,958 Then he introduced me to the tall gentleman with him, 198 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:47,249 Sidney Glazier, 199 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:50,375 who was going to produce Springtime for Hitler. 200 00:08:50,376 --> 00:08:52,041 [Mel Brooks] I met Sidney Glazier, 201 00:08:52,042 --> 00:08:53,124 I gave him my script. 202 00:08:53,125 --> 00:08:54,915 He said, "I don't wanna read it. 203 00:08:54,916 --> 00:08:56,082 Read it to me." 204 00:08:56,083 --> 00:08:56,999 And I began reading, 205 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,000 and he was eating a big tuna fish sandwich 206 00:09:00,001 --> 00:09:03,499 and a huge cup of coffee. 207 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:05,500 And he'd sip the coffee, and he'd eat, 208 00:09:05,501 --> 00:09:06,665 and he'd listen. 209 00:09:06,666 --> 00:09:08,749 And every once in a while he'd smile. 210 00:09:08,750 --> 00:09:10,895 Once in a while he'd laugh a little bit. 211 00:09:10,896 --> 00:09:13,041 And when I got to the blue blanket scene... 212 00:09:13,042 --> 00:09:14,541 My blanket, my blue blanket, 213 00:09:14,542 --> 00:09:16,145 give me my blue blanket! 214 00:09:16,146 --> 00:09:17,749 [speaking gibberish] 215 00:09:17,750 --> 00:09:20,812 He spit the coffee all over the office 216 00:09:20,813 --> 00:09:23,874 and he said, "We gotta make this movie." 217 00:09:23,875 --> 00:09:26,040 [Gene Wilder] Mel started talking as if we were 218 00:09:26,041 --> 00:09:29,625 just continuing a conversation from yesterday. 219 00:09:29,626 --> 00:09:31,582 "Now, listen, you know I love you, 220 00:09:31,583 --> 00:09:33,291 but Zero Mostel is gonna play Bialystock, 221 00:09:33,292 --> 00:09:34,999 and I can't just spring you on him 222 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,750 because he's got approval of anyone who plays Leo. 223 00:09:37,751 --> 00:09:39,540 So you gotta do a reading with him 224 00:09:39,541 --> 00:09:42,500 just so he can see for himself how good you are. 225 00:09:42,501 --> 00:09:44,540 [traffic humming] 226 00:09:44,541 --> 00:09:47,333 The morning of the reading, I was very nervous. 227 00:09:47,334 --> 00:09:48,915 If I don't get this part, 228 00:09:48,916 --> 00:09:50,665 I'll just be a good featured, 229 00:09:50,666 --> 00:09:53,458 maybe supporting actor for the rest of my life. 230 00:09:55,790 --> 00:09:56,624 [door opens] 231 00:09:56,625 --> 00:09:58,415 Mel opened the door and gave me a hug. 232 00:09:58,416 --> 00:10:01,249 I could see Zero Mostel in the background. 233 00:10:01,250 --> 00:10:04,103 And then Mel pulled me into the office. 234 00:10:04,104 --> 00:10:06,614 This huge round fantasy of a man 235 00:10:06,615 --> 00:10:09,124 came waltzing towards me. 236 00:10:09,125 --> 00:10:10,520 My heart was pounding so loud 237 00:10:10,521 --> 00:10:11,916 I thought he'd hear it. 238 00:10:15,166 --> 00:10:17,082 Zero grabbed Gene, bent him over, 239 00:10:17,083 --> 00:10:18,999 and kissed him on the lips fully. 240 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,249 And then turned to me and said, "This is my Bloom." 241 00:10:22,250 --> 00:10:24,937 [Gene Wilder] All nervousness floated away. 242 00:10:24,938 --> 00:10:27,625 I think Zero did it for that reason. 243 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:29,749 I gave a good reading 244 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:32,416 and was cast in Springtime for Hitler. 245 00:10:32,417 --> 00:10:35,790 [soft music] 246 00:10:35,791 --> 00:10:38,124 - [crewmember] Take one! - [clapperboard claps] 247 00:10:38,125 --> 00:10:40,039 [Gene Wilder] Filming on Springtime for Hitler 248 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,040 was to begin in May, 249 00:10:41,041 --> 00:10:42,415 but in the meantime, 250 00:10:42,416 --> 00:10:43,999 I was offered a small part 251 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,916 in a movie called Bonnie and Clyde 252 00:10:47,041 --> 00:10:49,958 starring Warren Beatty and directed by Arthur Penn. 253 00:10:51,458 --> 00:10:54,874 The company was already filming in Texas. 254 00:10:54,875 --> 00:10:57,207 I arrived in Dallas and I went to the set. 255 00:10:57,208 --> 00:10:59,750 Arthur Penn introduced me to the pretty young woman 256 00:10:59,751 --> 00:11:02,312 who would be playing my fiancée. 257 00:11:02,313 --> 00:11:04,874 Her name was Evans Evans. 258 00:11:04,875 --> 00:11:06,853 We said hello and shook hands. 259 00:11:06,854 --> 00:11:08,833 The camera started rolling. 260 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,249 [indistinct speaking] 261 00:11:11,250 --> 00:11:13,208 The first scene started with Evans and me 262 00:11:13,209 --> 00:11:15,499 kissing on her porch. 263 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:17,582 A little strange to start kissing someone 264 00:11:17,583 --> 00:11:19,666 you just met two minutes earlier, 265 00:11:19,667 --> 00:11:21,790 but it was fun. 266 00:11:21,791 --> 00:11:24,166 Say, isn't that your car, Eugene? 267 00:11:24,875 --> 00:11:26,332 That's my car. 268 00:11:26,333 --> 00:11:29,790 Arthur said, "Cut. Very good." 269 00:11:29,791 --> 00:11:32,853 And that was my introduction to movie acting. 270 00:11:32,854 --> 00:11:35,916 Later, I'm riding in the back of a car 271 00:11:35,917 --> 00:11:37,457 with the Barrow gang. 272 00:11:37,458 --> 00:11:39,041 Maybe y'all oughta join up with us? 273 00:11:39,042 --> 00:11:41,041 [laughing] 274 00:11:42,125 --> 00:11:44,290 Oh, boy. 275 00:11:44,291 --> 00:11:47,000 It sure would be a surprise to hear that back home. 276 00:11:47,001 --> 00:11:48,958 Hey, what do you do anyhow? 277 00:11:50,541 --> 00:11:51,625 I'm an undertaker. 278 00:11:57,041 --> 00:11:58,999 Get them out of here. 279 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,540 [Gene Wilder] When filming was over, 280 00:12:00,541 --> 00:12:03,040 Arthur Penn told me that he had never envisioned 281 00:12:03,041 --> 00:12:05,311 the part being played the way I did it. 282 00:12:05,312 --> 00:12:07,583 He never imagined it being funny. 283 00:12:07,584 --> 00:12:11,165 [bright music] 284 00:12:11,166 --> 00:12:13,832 Zero Mostel had a car and driver assigned to him 285 00:12:13,833 --> 00:12:16,375 when filming for Springtime for Hitler began. 286 00:12:17,958 --> 00:12:19,290 He would pick me up each morning 287 00:12:19,291 --> 00:12:21,459 in that we could travel to work together. 288 00:12:22,916 --> 00:12:23,832 [indistinct chatter] 289 00:12:23,833 --> 00:12:26,020 [Mel Brooks] It was a marriage made in heaven. 290 00:12:26,021 --> 00:12:28,207 They were just made for each other. 291 00:12:28,208 --> 00:12:30,791 I'm an honest man, you don't understand. 292 00:12:30,792 --> 00:12:32,458 No, Bloom, you don't understand! 293 00:12:32,459 --> 00:12:34,125 This is fate, this is destiny, 294 00:12:34,126 --> 00:12:35,374 this is kismet! 295 00:12:35,375 --> 00:12:38,040 There's no avoiding it! 296 00:12:38,041 --> 00:12:41,375 [Mel Brooks] It was the first movie I ever directed. 297 00:12:41,376 --> 00:12:42,874 - A toast. - [Mel Brooks] It was like 298 00:12:42,875 --> 00:12:47,375 getting into a big canoe and gliding down the river. 299 00:12:47,376 --> 00:12:49,500 That's how easy they made it for me. 300 00:12:49,501 --> 00:12:51,040 - I'm happy! - [laughing] 301 00:12:51,041 --> 00:12:53,541 [Mel Brooks] And they did... sometimes they ad-libbed stuff 302 00:12:53,542 --> 00:12:56,291 that was a lot better than stuff I had written. 303 00:12:56,292 --> 00:12:57,708 But I was in heaven. 304 00:12:57,709 --> 00:12:58,707 [soft music] 305 00:12:58,708 --> 00:12:59,790 [Gene Wilder] Joe Levine, 306 00:12:59,791 --> 00:13:01,332 the man who put up half the budget 307 00:13:01,333 --> 00:13:03,978 and was going to distribute the film 308 00:13:03,979 --> 00:13:06,624 went to a screening room with Mel 309 00:13:06,625 --> 00:13:09,124 and saw the first 11 minutes of the dailies. 310 00:13:09,125 --> 00:13:11,624 [Mel Brooks] Joe Levine saw the dailies 311 00:13:11,625 --> 00:13:14,665 on the third day with Bialystock and Bloom, 312 00:13:14,666 --> 00:13:17,750 the one in the hallway where he's frightened 313 00:13:17,751 --> 00:13:19,958 and where he's just superb. 314 00:13:19,959 --> 00:13:22,207 Speak to me, speak! 315 00:13:22,208 --> 00:13:24,686 - Why don't you speak? - I'm scared, can't talk. 316 00:13:24,687 --> 00:13:27,166 [Mel Brooks] He said, "He's cute, he has curly hair, 317 00:13:27,167 --> 00:13:28,374 but I need a leading man. 318 00:13:28,375 --> 00:13:30,207 He's... he's a... a bit of a wimp. 319 00:13:30,208 --> 00:13:32,040 I'll give you another $10,000. 320 00:13:32,041 --> 00:13:34,500 Get somebody who looks like a leading man." 321 00:13:34,501 --> 00:13:36,666 I said, "I don't want a leading man! 322 00:13:36,667 --> 00:13:38,832 I want the opposite of a leading man. 323 00:13:38,833 --> 00:13:41,707 I want somebody who's afraid of the world, 324 00:13:41,708 --> 00:13:45,082 who retreats instead of attacks like Bialystock." 325 00:13:45,083 --> 00:13:48,332 He said, "Get another guy to play Leo Bloom." 326 00:13:48,333 --> 00:13:51,583 I said, and this is the first time I said it, 327 00:13:51,584 --> 00:13:53,165 and at every single movie 328 00:13:53,166 --> 00:13:55,707 I said to the head of the studio, 329 00:13:55,708 --> 00:13:58,249 "Yeah, you're right, you got it." 330 00:13:58,250 --> 00:14:02,208 And never, ever did what they wanted me to do. 331 00:14:02,209 --> 00:14:04,582 [soft, quirky music] 332 00:14:04,583 --> 00:14:06,625 I started with Joe Levine. 333 00:14:06,626 --> 00:14:08,666 Gene Wilder is out! 334 00:14:08,667 --> 00:14:09,749 [door slams] 335 00:14:09,750 --> 00:14:10,832 You'll see. 336 00:14:10,833 --> 00:14:13,561 Next week I'll have somebody else. 337 00:14:13,562 --> 00:14:16,291 He left the screening room happy. 338 00:14:18,208 --> 00:14:19,750 [Gene Wilder] We were about to rehearse 339 00:14:19,751 --> 00:14:22,540 my big hysterical scene. 340 00:14:22,541 --> 00:14:25,832 I was anxious to see how Zero and I would play it together. 341 00:14:25,833 --> 00:14:29,125 Mel never said "action" like every other director. 342 00:14:29,126 --> 00:14:30,958 Mel said, "Go." 343 00:14:32,291 --> 00:14:33,249 Oh... 344 00:14:33,250 --> 00:14:35,290 And I gave it my all. 345 00:14:35,291 --> 00:14:38,353 You miserable, cowardly, wretched little caterpillar. 346 00:14:38,354 --> 00:14:41,416 You would normally be a little afraid of Bialystock, 347 00:14:41,417 --> 00:14:44,707 who was a force, who's a living force. 348 00:14:44,708 --> 00:14:48,625 He was just a ton of flesh, a crescendo of humanity. 349 00:14:48,626 --> 00:14:49,582 ...glory! 350 00:14:49,583 --> 00:14:51,083 [Leo Bloom] You're gonna jump on me. 351 00:14:51,084 --> 00:14:52,084 Huh? 352 00:14:52,085 --> 00:14:53,041 You're gonna jump on me, 353 00:14:53,042 --> 00:14:55,416 I know you're gonna jump on me! 354 00:14:55,417 --> 00:14:57,541 [Gene Wilder] This giant hulk of a man 355 00:14:57,542 --> 00:15:00,124 is now making all these strange gestures 356 00:15:00,125 --> 00:15:02,708 and might possibly pounce on me. 357 00:15:02,709 --> 00:15:03,667 Please don't jump on me! 358 00:15:03,668 --> 00:15:04,832 I'm not gonna jump! 359 00:15:04,833 --> 00:15:07,416 - [screaming] - [indistinct shouting] 360 00:15:08,416 --> 00:15:09,999 Will you get a hold of yourself? 361 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,583 Don't touch me, don't touch me! 362 00:15:11,584 --> 00:15:13,499 He could scare you. 363 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:16,999 And, uh, he scared Gene, and Gene was timid. 364 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,041 [Ben Mankiewicz] I think what connects Leo Bloom 365 00:15:19,042 --> 00:15:21,916 to me and to the audience is fear. 366 00:15:21,917 --> 00:15:23,457 I'm hysterical! 367 00:15:23,458 --> 00:15:24,749 [Ben Mankiewicz] Just the fear 368 00:15:24,750 --> 00:15:27,166 that he goes through life carrying. 369 00:15:27,167 --> 00:15:28,540 What comes across 370 00:15:28,541 --> 00:15:31,833 {\an8}is this intense humanity, right, 371 00:15:31,834 --> 00:15:33,790 {\an8}this authenticity 372 00:15:33,791 --> 00:15:36,416 that Gene brings out of Leo Bloom. 373 00:15:36,417 --> 00:15:38,540 [bright music] 374 00:15:38,541 --> 00:15:40,207 [Gene Wilder] When the scene was over, 375 00:15:40,208 --> 00:15:42,249 the whole crew laughed and applauded. 376 00:15:42,250 --> 00:15:45,291 I was worn out and a little hoarse, 377 00:15:45,292 --> 00:15:48,332 but the scene went very well. 378 00:15:48,333 --> 00:15:51,833 [Mel Brooks] Joe Levine, who said I had to take out Gene, 379 00:15:51,834 --> 00:15:54,687 we kept him away from the dailies so he never knew 380 00:15:54,688 --> 00:15:57,176 that Gene would come in every day and work it. 381 00:15:57,177 --> 00:15:59,358 Finally, I said, "He's done half the picture. 382 00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:01,541 It would cost us too much money to replace him." 383 00:16:01,542 --> 00:16:02,791 "Yeah, yeah, all right." 384 00:16:03,958 --> 00:16:05,124 [soft music] 385 00:16:05,125 --> 00:16:07,291 [Gene Wilder] We were at the Lincoln Center fountain 386 00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:08,582 on the last day of filming, 387 00:16:08,583 --> 00:16:11,082 waiting for the sun to go down. 388 00:16:11,083 --> 00:16:13,833 I said to the guy running the fountain at... 389 00:16:13,834 --> 00:16:16,415 at Lincoln Center, I said, 390 00:16:16,416 --> 00:16:18,250 I said, "It goes up to 12 or 15 feet. 391 00:16:18,251 --> 00:16:19,415 Can you get it up to 20?" 392 00:16:19,416 --> 00:16:21,750 He says, "I can get it up to 50." 393 00:16:21,751 --> 00:16:24,499 I said, "Go for broke." 394 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:26,833 [Gene Wilder] When the sun finally went down, 395 00:16:26,834 --> 00:16:28,458 the cameras started rolling. 396 00:16:28,459 --> 00:16:30,083 [Leo Bloom] I'll do it! 397 00:16:30,084 --> 00:16:31,207 [fountain splashes] 398 00:16:31,208 --> 00:16:33,541 [Gene Wilder] And the fountain was turned on, 399 00:16:33,542 --> 00:16:35,750 in the film and in my life. 400 00:16:35,751 --> 00:16:37,874 [uplifting music] 401 00:16:37,875 --> 00:16:42,250 And we finished the movie right on that... on that night. 402 00:16:43,375 --> 00:16:45,958 That was a miraculous moment. 403 00:16:47,666 --> 00:16:49,541 [Gene Wilder] I was sad that the film was ending, 404 00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:51,540 of course, but also very happy. 405 00:16:51,541 --> 00:16:53,936 And I knew that I'd been part of a unique film, 406 00:16:53,937 --> 00:16:56,333 working with the two most unusual people 407 00:16:56,334 --> 00:16:57,707 I had ever met. 408 00:16:57,708 --> 00:16:59,165 The outrageousness, 409 00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:01,666 the complete audacity of Zero and Mel 410 00:17:01,667 --> 00:17:03,603 remains with me. 411 00:17:03,604 --> 00:17:05,541 [grand music] 412 00:17:06,666 --> 00:17:08,957 [soft music] 413 00:17:08,958 --> 00:17:11,458 [Terry Wogan] The movie that really launched you, as it were, 414 00:17:11,459 --> 00:17:13,895 that was a character that held in the anger, too, 415 00:17:13,896 --> 00:17:16,333 and that suddenly would burst out into manic... 416 00:17:16,334 --> 00:17:18,166 - Explosion. - Was that you? 417 00:17:18,167 --> 00:17:19,395 Yes, that was me. 418 00:17:19,396 --> 00:17:20,625 It was a part of me. 419 00:17:20,626 --> 00:17:21,915 [soft music] 420 00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:23,832 When my mother was suffering, 421 00:17:23,833 --> 00:17:26,832 the doctor set off something terrible in me, 422 00:17:26,833 --> 00:17:29,874 because "don't ever argue with your mother" 423 00:17:29,875 --> 00:17:32,832 inhibited me from getting angry with anyone 424 00:17:32,833 --> 00:17:35,791 and holding it all in, and that's poison. 425 00:17:37,625 --> 00:17:39,374 [Ben Mankiewicz] No child should ever be told, 426 00:17:39,375 --> 00:17:42,375 "Don't argue with your mother, you might kill her." 427 00:17:42,376 --> 00:17:45,958 That is an unbelievably heavy burden to carry. 428 00:17:47,455 --> 00:17:48,457 [Gene Wilder] I felt a rage 429 00:17:48,458 --> 00:17:51,500 that I didn't or couldn't express, 430 00:17:51,501 --> 00:17:53,250 except through acting. 431 00:17:54,958 --> 00:17:58,582 He started acting in high school plays. 432 00:17:58,583 --> 00:18:02,125 And then Gene was with the Milwaukee Players. 433 00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:06,957 He was always the lead. 434 00:18:06,958 --> 00:18:08,916 We'd go to rehearsals together. 435 00:18:10,375 --> 00:18:13,062 And he just came and got me so... take me with him. 436 00:18:13,063 --> 00:18:15,750 [Gene Wilder] Being on stage was a thing 437 00:18:15,751 --> 00:18:17,375 that saved me from myself. 438 00:18:18,958 --> 00:18:21,000 When I was in a play, I was safe. 439 00:18:25,125 --> 00:18:27,165 [soft, bright music] 440 00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:32,375 I was drafted into the Army on September 10th, 1956. 441 00:18:32,376 --> 00:18:33,540 At the end of basic training, 442 00:18:33,541 --> 00:18:35,311 I was assigned to the medical corps 443 00:18:35,312 --> 00:18:37,405 at the neuropsychiatric hospital 444 00:18:37,406 --> 00:18:39,499 in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. 445 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:43,041 Patients were all going through psychotic phases. 446 00:18:43,042 --> 00:18:45,707 I saw their behavior. 447 00:18:45,708 --> 00:18:48,333 I thought that would be the closest to acting 448 00:18:48,334 --> 00:18:49,916 that would help me later on. 449 00:18:49,917 --> 00:18:51,165 Rowers, keep on rowing! 450 00:18:51,166 --> 00:18:53,457 [Gene Wilder] I wasn't wrong. 451 00:18:53,458 --> 00:18:56,749 And they're certainly not showing 452 00:18:56,750 --> 00:19:00,041 any signs that they are slowing! 453 00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:03,790 [shrieking] 454 00:19:03,791 --> 00:19:06,416 {\an8}It's really tough for me to pick my favorite Gene Wilder film 455 00:19:06,417 --> 00:19:08,916 {\an8}because so many of them were so great. 456 00:19:08,917 --> 00:19:12,249 [soft music] 457 00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:14,916 But I have to say that Willy Wonka's my favorite 458 00:19:14,917 --> 00:19:18,625 because what Gene was able to do on camera. 459 00:19:19,875 --> 00:19:21,999 That was so attractive. 460 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,375 That was so charismatic and becoming. 461 00:19:25,376 --> 00:19:26,790 I'm so glad you could come. 462 00:19:26,791 --> 00:19:28,958 This is going to be such an exciting day. 463 00:19:28,959 --> 00:19:30,416 I hope you enjoy it. 464 00:19:31,291 --> 00:19:32,957 I think you will. 465 00:19:32,958 --> 00:19:35,250 And now would you please show me your golden tickets? 466 00:19:35,251 --> 00:19:37,333 - Charlie Bucket. - Well, well, Charlie Bucket. 467 00:19:37,334 --> 00:19:38,750 I read all about you in the papers. 468 00:19:38,751 --> 00:19:40,041 I'm so happy for you. 469 00:19:41,333 --> 00:19:43,166 [Peter Ostrum] I was in fourth grade 470 00:19:44,416 --> 00:19:46,207 {\an8}in Shaker Heights, Ohio, 471 00:19:46,208 --> 00:19:47,999 {\an8}and the Cleveland Playhouse 472 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,375 {\an8}has a very active children's theater. 473 00:19:51,791 --> 00:19:53,332 It's got a nice résumé. 474 00:19:53,333 --> 00:19:56,478 Joel Grey came from the Cleveland Playhouse. 475 00:19:56,479 --> 00:19:59,625 Margaret Hamilton, Wicked Witch of the West. 476 00:20:01,041 --> 00:20:03,332 It was a good place to learn, 477 00:20:03,333 --> 00:20:05,624 good place to start for me. 478 00:20:05,625 --> 00:20:07,833 When they were casting Willy Wonka, 479 00:20:07,834 --> 00:20:09,291 that was one of the theaters 480 00:20:09,292 --> 00:20:11,165 that they called. 481 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:13,790 So my name was given to them. 482 00:20:13,791 --> 00:20:16,416 They had me do a screen test. 483 00:20:16,417 --> 00:20:17,457 I was nobody. 484 00:20:17,458 --> 00:20:19,458 I didn't have a large résumé. 485 00:20:19,459 --> 00:20:21,666 This was just like a lark. 486 00:20:21,667 --> 00:20:23,832 It was fun. 487 00:20:23,833 --> 00:20:25,165 If I didn't get the part, 488 00:20:25,166 --> 00:20:27,958 there was... there weren't any hard feelings, you know? 489 00:20:29,416 --> 00:20:31,915 Months later, Mel Stuart, the director, 490 00:20:31,916 --> 00:20:35,958 finally called and talked to my mother and said, 491 00:20:35,959 --> 00:20:38,875 "Hey, you got the role." 492 00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:41,874 I'm gonna be Charlie. 493 00:20:41,875 --> 00:20:45,208 "And you need to be in Munich in like 10 days." 494 00:20:46,541 --> 00:20:49,186 {\an8}Casting was very important in the... 495 00:20:49,187 --> 00:20:51,832 {\an8}but above all, the casting of Wonka. 496 00:20:51,833 --> 00:20:54,916 One day I remember we were at the Plaza Hotel in New York, 497 00:20:54,917 --> 00:20:56,499 we were casting there. 498 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:58,082 Gene Wilder walks in. 499 00:20:58,083 --> 00:21:00,625 And I looked at him and I said, 500 00:21:00,626 --> 00:21:01,540 "Here's just a line. 501 00:21:01,541 --> 00:21:04,959 Would you read just a line for us from the book?" 502 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,960 And he reads it. 503 00:21:06,666 --> 00:21:08,000 And he says, "Okay." 504 00:21:08,001 --> 00:21:09,915 I said, "Okay." 505 00:21:09,916 --> 00:21:11,540 And he starts to walk out. 506 00:21:11,541 --> 00:21:15,833 And I went to the producer, Dave Wolper, and I said, 507 00:21:15,834 --> 00:21:19,875 "No matter what happens, he is Willy Wonka." 508 00:21:19,876 --> 00:21:22,124 [lively music] 509 00:21:22,125 --> 00:21:25,416 [Gene Wilder] I wasn't sure if I wanted to play Willy Wonka. 510 00:21:25,417 --> 00:21:26,457 The script was good, 511 00:21:26,458 --> 00:21:28,832 but there was something that was bothering me. 512 00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:31,541 Mel Stuart asked me, "What's bothering you?" 513 00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:33,957 It was my entrance walk. 514 00:21:33,958 --> 00:21:35,707 [Harry Connick, Jr.] I think in the script 515 00:21:35,708 --> 00:21:38,916 it was written as this big, energetic entrance. 516 00:21:39,583 --> 00:21:42,083 [grand music] 517 00:21:46,291 --> 00:21:49,833 But he wanted to come out sort of hobbling with a cane, 518 00:21:50,666 --> 00:21:52,708 kind of hunched over. 519 00:21:52,709 --> 00:21:54,999 [footsteps] 520 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,228 [Gene Wilder] Then Willy Wonka's cane gets stuck in a brick. 521 00:21:58,229 --> 00:22:01,458 [Peter Ostrum] And when Gene came out and he's hobbling, 522 00:22:01,459 --> 00:22:04,082 and that's not what you expect, 523 00:22:04,083 --> 00:22:07,250 and then he falls and does a somersault. 524 00:22:07,251 --> 00:22:08,457 [cheering] 525 00:22:08,458 --> 00:22:12,040 That caught everybody off... off guard. 526 00:22:12,041 --> 00:22:13,915 [Harry] That was Gene's idea, and I just thought 527 00:22:13,916 --> 00:22:15,791 it was so brilliant because it was really important 528 00:22:15,792 --> 00:22:18,332 from the very first time that you met him, 529 00:22:18,333 --> 00:22:21,666 you never know, is this guy, you know, for real, 530 00:22:21,667 --> 00:22:23,228 or is he full of baloney? 531 00:22:23,229 --> 00:22:24,790 Right from the get-go, 532 00:22:24,791 --> 00:22:28,791 that was how he was setting himself up 533 00:22:28,792 --> 00:22:30,833 for us and for the audience. 534 00:22:30,834 --> 00:22:33,999 [soft music] 535 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,083 You could tell that this was gonna be somebody 536 00:22:36,084 --> 00:22:38,166 that was gonna be fun to work with. 537 00:22:38,167 --> 00:22:40,250 Right away I think we hit it off. 538 00:22:42,083 --> 00:22:45,666 Gene was a father figure and my mentor. 539 00:22:45,667 --> 00:22:47,374 He was one of those people, 540 00:22:47,375 --> 00:22:49,291 like when you have a really good teacher, 541 00:22:49,292 --> 00:22:52,166 you don't want to let them down. 542 00:22:52,167 --> 00:22:54,916 He wasn't treating me like a kid. 543 00:22:54,917 --> 00:22:57,666 I was being treated like his costar. 544 00:23:01,333 --> 00:23:02,791 [Willy Wonka] Ladies and gentlemen. 545 00:23:02,792 --> 00:23:04,083 [door slams] 546 00:23:04,084 --> 00:23:05,375 Boys and girls. 547 00:23:06,750 --> 00:23:08,645 The Chocolate Room. 548 00:23:08,646 --> 00:23:10,541 [mysterious music] 549 00:23:12,125 --> 00:23:13,832 [Peter Ostrum] Our first introduction 550 00:23:13,833 --> 00:23:15,540 to the Chocolate Room was in fact 551 00:23:15,541 --> 00:23:19,040 the first time that we had ever seen it. 552 00:23:19,041 --> 00:23:22,541 And Mel wanted our initial reaction. 553 00:23:24,291 --> 00:23:27,208 That wow factor. 554 00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:31,583 And it was a big room, big set. 555 00:23:33,083 --> 00:23:34,708 [Willy Wonka] Hold your breath. 556 00:23:34,709 --> 00:23:36,499 Make a wish. 557 00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:38,290 Count to three. 558 00:23:38,291 --> 00:23:41,874 ♪ Come with me and you'll be 559 00:23:41,875 --> 00:23:45,790 in a world of pure imagination ♪ 560 00:23:45,791 --> 00:23:47,957 [Peter Ostrum] Everything is not what you think. 561 00:23:47,958 --> 00:23:49,791 - ♪ And you'll see ♪ - [Peter Ostrum] When you watched 562 00:23:49,792 --> 00:23:52,228 Willy Wonka, and particularly with Gene. 563 00:23:52,229 --> 00:23:54,665 He was always doing something unexpected, 564 00:23:54,666 --> 00:23:58,875 even if it was going down three steps, coming back two. 565 00:23:58,876 --> 00:24:00,625 Why didn't you just go down the step? 566 00:24:00,626 --> 00:24:02,395 No, no, no, no. 567 00:24:02,396 --> 00:24:04,166 [bright music] 568 00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:09,250 [Harry Connick, Jr.] For him to treat those lyrics 569 00:24:09,251 --> 00:24:10,666 and that vocal performance 570 00:24:10,667 --> 00:24:12,958 and that acting performance 571 00:24:12,959 --> 00:24:15,249 with such care and specificity, 572 00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:17,499 it was almost like the way a wise person 573 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,750 would speak to you on top of a mountaintop. 574 00:24:19,751 --> 00:24:22,124 It's not always what you expect, 575 00:24:22,125 --> 00:24:24,416 but you leave feeling a lot more enlightened 576 00:24:24,417 --> 00:24:25,750 than you did when you got there. 577 00:24:25,751 --> 00:24:27,165 [mysterious music] 578 00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:29,832 We are the music makers 579 00:24:29,833 --> 00:24:32,708 and we are the dreamers of the dreams. 580 00:24:35,833 --> 00:24:37,875 [Harry Connick, Jr.] And that was Gene's great gift. 581 00:24:39,791 --> 00:24:41,290 [waterfall flowing] 582 00:24:41,291 --> 00:24:44,832 [Mel Stuart] The guy that built that set, 583 00:24:44,833 --> 00:24:47,541 Harper Goff, was a brilliant designer. 584 00:24:47,542 --> 00:24:50,187 He had built the most beautiful office 585 00:24:50,188 --> 00:24:52,833 for Mr. Wonka for the end of the film. 586 00:24:52,834 --> 00:24:55,270 Charlie's gonna say goodbye. 587 00:24:55,271 --> 00:24:57,708 I said, "No, Wonka's berserk." 588 00:24:58,958 --> 00:25:00,374 I said, "I want you to cut 589 00:25:00,375 --> 00:25:02,958 every piece of furniture in half. 590 00:25:02,959 --> 00:25:04,624 I want the desks in half, 591 00:25:04,625 --> 00:25:06,290 I want the vault in half, 592 00:25:06,291 --> 00:25:09,207 I want the piece of paper he reads in half. 593 00:25:09,208 --> 00:25:12,208 You've gotta keep the madness up to the last minute. 594 00:25:12,958 --> 00:25:13,790 Mr. Wonka. 595 00:25:13,791 --> 00:25:16,187 [Willy Wonka] I am extraordinarily busy, sir. 596 00:25:16,188 --> 00:25:18,584 I just wanted to ask about the chocolate. 597 00:25:18,585 --> 00:25:20,083 It was unrehearsed. 598 00:25:20,084 --> 00:25:22,124 Gene knew what he was gonna do, 599 00:25:22,125 --> 00:25:25,124 but we didn't know what he was gonna do. 600 00:25:25,125 --> 00:25:28,000 The lifetime supply of chocolate for Charlie. 601 00:25:29,125 --> 00:25:30,665 When does he get it? 602 00:25:30,666 --> 00:25:32,958 - [Willy Wonka] He doesn't. - Why not? 603 00:25:32,959 --> 00:25:35,250 Because he broke the rules. 604 00:25:35,251 --> 00:25:36,374 What rules? 605 00:25:36,375 --> 00:25:38,270 We didn't see any rules, did we, Charlie? 606 00:25:38,271 --> 00:25:40,166 And they didn't know what I was gonna do. 607 00:25:41,375 --> 00:25:42,958 But I really let 'em have it. 608 00:25:42,959 --> 00:25:45,457 Wrong, sir, wrong. 609 00:25:45,458 --> 00:25:47,708 Well, I knew that he was gonna get a little upset with us, 610 00:25:47,709 --> 00:25:49,750 but I didn't know he was gonna get that upset, 611 00:25:49,751 --> 00:25:51,332 you know, with us. 612 00:25:51,333 --> 00:25:53,333 It's all there, black and white, 613 00:25:53,334 --> 00:25:54,874 clear as crystal! 614 00:25:54,875 --> 00:25:56,687 You stole Fizzy Lifting Drinks! 615 00:25:56,688 --> 00:25:58,499 You bumped into the ceiling, 616 00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:00,958 which now has to be washed and sterilized, 617 00:26:00,959 --> 00:26:03,333 so you get nothing! 618 00:26:03,334 --> 00:26:04,874 You lose! 619 00:26:04,875 --> 00:26:07,165 Good day, sir! 620 00:26:07,166 --> 00:26:10,624 He wasn't gonna tell you what he was gonna do. 621 00:26:10,625 --> 00:26:12,873 And so your expression, 622 00:26:12,874 --> 00:26:17,124 your reaction was a genuine reaction. 623 00:26:17,125 --> 00:26:18,125 Charlie. 624 00:26:20,126 --> 00:26:21,290 My boy. 625 00:26:21,291 --> 00:26:24,291 [Peter Ostrum] In retrospect, Gene made it quite easy for me. 626 00:26:24,292 --> 00:26:25,790 That's what good actors do. 627 00:26:25,791 --> 00:26:29,582 They help their partners on stage. 628 00:26:29,583 --> 00:26:33,333 [Harry Connick, Jr.] This is a very contemplative artist. 629 00:26:33,334 --> 00:26:34,665 The stars aligned, 630 00:26:34,666 --> 00:26:39,040 because that kind of artistry is... is super rare. 631 00:26:39,041 --> 00:26:41,291 [Ben Mankiewicz] One of the best reviews of Willy Wonka 632 00:26:41,292 --> 00:26:43,166 comes from probably the greatest film critic 633 00:26:43,167 --> 00:26:45,374 of his generation, Roger Ebert, 634 00:26:45,375 --> 00:26:47,958 who says that Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory 635 00:26:47,959 --> 00:26:49,958 is probably the best film of its sort 636 00:26:49,959 --> 00:26:52,290 since The Wizard of Oz. 637 00:26:52,291 --> 00:26:54,291 "It is everything that family movies 638 00:26:54,292 --> 00:26:57,208 usually claim to be, but aren't: 639 00:26:57,209 --> 00:27:00,124 Delightful, funny, scary, exciting, 640 00:27:00,125 --> 00:27:03,291 and most of all, a genuine work of imagination." 641 00:27:05,541 --> 00:27:07,749 [soft, curious music] 642 00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:09,958 [Gene Wilder] I was asked to do publicity in Chicago 643 00:27:09,959 --> 00:27:12,540 for the release of Willy Wonka. 644 00:27:12,541 --> 00:27:15,790 The next day, I got a call from Woody Allen. 645 00:27:15,791 --> 00:27:18,416 "I want to do a remake of Sister Carrie," he said. 646 00:27:18,417 --> 00:27:19,874 I love you so much. 647 00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:20,957 [Gene Wilder] "But instead of a woman 648 00:27:20,958 --> 00:27:24,041 in Jennifer Jones' part, I want to use a sheep." 649 00:27:24,042 --> 00:27:25,290 [soft, quirky music] 650 00:27:25,291 --> 00:27:28,165 I knew before reading the script why he wanted me. 651 00:27:28,166 --> 00:27:31,583 An actor who could believably fall in love with a sheep 652 00:27:31,584 --> 00:27:33,645 and play it straight. 653 00:27:33,646 --> 00:27:35,707 [energetic music] 654 00:27:35,708 --> 00:27:40,124 When I left for Los Angeles to do Woody's film... 655 00:27:40,125 --> 00:27:43,000 I found out that Willy Wonka had failed at the box office. 656 00:27:44,458 --> 00:27:45,957 I was told that many mothers thought 657 00:27:45,958 --> 00:27:47,750 the lessons in the movie were too cruel 658 00:27:47,751 --> 00:27:50,499 for children to understand. 659 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:53,041 I was leaving for California to do Woody's film 660 00:27:53,042 --> 00:27:55,416 in hopes of resurrecting my career. 661 00:27:58,875 --> 00:27:59,833 During all of the filming 662 00:27:59,834 --> 00:28:02,666 of Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex, 663 00:28:02,667 --> 00:28:04,771 Woody said, "If you don't like any of these lines, 664 00:28:04,772 --> 00:28:06,876 just change them to what you'd like to say." 665 00:28:08,416 --> 00:28:09,374 Hello, Daisy. 666 00:28:09,375 --> 00:28:10,313 [chuckles] 667 00:28:10,314 --> 00:28:11,468 [Daisy bleats] 668 00:28:11,469 --> 00:28:12,624 She's so... 669 00:28:12,625 --> 00:28:15,270 [Gene Wilder] It seemed an extraordinary thing to say. 670 00:28:15,271 --> 00:28:17,916 Woody's great confidence was not that he knew 671 00:28:17,917 --> 00:28:19,790 he'd chosen the right actor, 672 00:28:19,791 --> 00:28:21,374 but that the event he had written 673 00:28:21,375 --> 00:28:23,290 was more important than the particular words 674 00:28:23,291 --> 00:28:26,416 the actor used to bring that event to life. 675 00:28:26,417 --> 00:28:28,958 Mr. Milos, I, uh... 676 00:28:30,791 --> 00:28:33,207 I'd like to see the two of you again, 677 00:28:33,208 --> 00:28:37,666 but right now, you know, my office is jammed full. 678 00:28:37,667 --> 00:28:39,791 Oh, I knew you could help. 679 00:28:39,792 --> 00:28:41,978 I knew... thank you, Doctor. 680 00:28:41,979 --> 00:28:44,322 As a matter of fact, uh, 681 00:28:44,323 --> 00:28:46,666 if I could see Daisy alone, 682 00:28:46,667 --> 00:28:49,083 maybe, you know... 683 00:28:49,084 --> 00:28:51,499 Anything, anything. 684 00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:54,166 {\an8}You know, Gene was able to do things in comedy 685 00:28:54,167 --> 00:28:56,583 {\an8}that are dangerous to do, 686 00:28:56,584 --> 00:28:59,165 because he went often 687 00:28:59,166 --> 00:29:02,083 for such an extreme characterization 688 00:29:02,084 --> 00:29:04,354 or such an extreme situation, 689 00:29:04,355 --> 00:29:06,822 digging down into yourself 690 00:29:06,823 --> 00:29:09,291 to find this absurd reality. 691 00:29:10,083 --> 00:29:11,083 Darling. 692 00:29:12,791 --> 00:29:16,208 I know this must all seem very strange to you. 693 00:29:17,875 --> 00:29:19,603 You from the hills of Armenia 694 00:29:19,604 --> 00:29:22,218 and me from Jackson Heights. 695 00:29:22,219 --> 00:29:24,833 And yet I think it could work... 696 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,665 if we gave it a chance. 697 00:29:27,666 --> 00:29:29,124 {\an8}You could have substituted 698 00:29:29,125 --> 00:29:32,895 {\an8}the most glamorous female movie star 699 00:29:32,896 --> 00:29:36,665 for the sheep the way Gene treated the sheep. 700 00:29:36,666 --> 00:29:39,375 I don't think I've ever known such peace and happiness 701 00:29:39,376 --> 00:29:40,624 in my life. 702 00:29:40,625 --> 00:29:44,541 There's this ability to be simple and honest... 703 00:29:44,542 --> 00:29:45,832 Is it my imagination 704 00:29:45,833 --> 00:29:48,124 or do you really smell from lamb chops? 705 00:29:48,125 --> 00:29:53,040 ...in a situation which is extraordinary and absurd. 706 00:29:53,041 --> 00:29:58,333 [judge] Defendant did commit an adulterous act with a sheep. 707 00:29:58,334 --> 00:30:00,270 It's most distasteful in view of the fact 708 00:30:00,271 --> 00:30:02,208 that the sheep was under 18 years old. 709 00:30:02,209 --> 00:30:03,832 [bright music] 710 00:30:03,833 --> 00:30:04,957 [Gene Wilder] The memory of 711 00:30:04,958 --> 00:30:07,582 Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex 712 00:30:07,583 --> 00:30:09,603 was so happy that it was making me sad, 713 00:30:09,604 --> 00:30:11,624 wondering if I would ever be asked 714 00:30:11,625 --> 00:30:13,750 to work on something wonderful again. 715 00:30:14,583 --> 00:30:17,665 [contemplative music] 716 00:30:17,666 --> 00:30:21,250 In California, Mel Brooks was doing preproduction 717 00:30:21,251 --> 00:30:23,415 on a film called Black Bart. 718 00:30:23,416 --> 00:30:28,040 The title was later changed to Blazing Saddles. 719 00:30:28,041 --> 00:30:31,791 [Mel Brooks] It was a Western poking fun at Westerns. 720 00:30:32,583 --> 00:30:34,041 Has anybody got a dime? 721 00:30:34,042 --> 00:30:35,499 [indistinct chatter] 722 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,500 [Mel Brooks] My biggest problem was finding the Waco Kid. 723 00:30:38,501 --> 00:30:42,374 The Waco Kid is the sidekick to the Black sheriff. 724 00:30:42,375 --> 00:30:47,250 An alcoholic that's struggling to stay alive in the world. 725 00:30:47,251 --> 00:30:49,270 Then I saw a movie with Gig Young, 726 00:30:49,271 --> 00:30:51,290 They Shoot Horses, Don't They? 727 00:30:51,291 --> 00:30:53,750 But I sure as hell can spot a loser. 728 00:30:53,751 --> 00:30:54,790 [soft piano music] 729 00:30:54,791 --> 00:30:56,520 [Mel Brooks] A wonderful actor. 730 00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:58,250 And I found out that in real life 731 00:30:58,251 --> 00:31:00,500 he was a bit of an alcoholic. 732 00:31:00,501 --> 00:31:02,374 His agent said, "No, no, 733 00:31:02,375 --> 00:31:04,333 he's been on the wagon for two years. 734 00:31:04,334 --> 00:31:05,540 Not to worry." 735 00:31:05,541 --> 00:31:09,583 But life has taught me "not to worry" means worry! 736 00:31:09,584 --> 00:31:12,165 [energetic music] 737 00:31:12,166 --> 00:31:13,916 Anyway, we start shooting. 738 00:31:13,917 --> 00:31:14,999 We're in the jail. 739 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,875 The Waco Kid is upside down. 740 00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:19,082 Are we awake? 741 00:31:19,083 --> 00:31:20,978 [Mel Brooks] There's Cleavon Little 742 00:31:20,979 --> 00:31:22,875 upside down from the Waco Kid's POV, 743 00:31:22,876 --> 00:31:23,876 point of view. 744 00:31:23,877 --> 00:31:25,937 And Gig Young, he's struggling. 745 00:31:25,938 --> 00:31:27,999 "Are we Bla... are we Bla..." 746 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,040 He never finished the word Black. 747 00:31:30,041 --> 00:31:34,500 And ended it with a geyser of green vomit 748 00:31:34,501 --> 00:31:36,915 that shot across the jail cell 749 00:31:36,916 --> 00:31:39,750 and got the crew and everybody drenched. 750 00:31:39,751 --> 00:31:43,124 [siren wailing] 751 00:31:43,125 --> 00:31:44,415 So we called for an ambulance 752 00:31:44,416 --> 00:31:47,645 and got him to the hospital in Burbank. 753 00:31:47,646 --> 00:31:50,875 The doctor who was treating him said, 754 00:31:50,876 --> 00:31:52,375 "He's suffering from the DTs," 755 00:31:52,376 --> 00:31:53,875 or what's that, delirium tremens. 756 00:31:53,876 --> 00:31:56,062 It's a thing alcoholics get. 757 00:31:56,063 --> 00:31:57,843 So he hadn't stopped drinking. 758 00:31:57,844 --> 00:31:59,624 I said, "Well, can he work?" 759 00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:02,833 And he said, "Yeah, in about three or four months." 760 00:32:02,834 --> 00:32:05,250 This is Friday, I've got a shoot Monday. 761 00:32:06,666 --> 00:32:08,332 There! 762 00:32:08,333 --> 00:32:11,875 It came to me right then and there, Gene Wilder. 763 00:32:13,458 --> 00:32:15,040 He'll save me. 764 00:32:15,041 --> 00:32:17,125 He saved me on The Producers. 765 00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:19,749 He will save me. 766 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:22,291 And I called him and I said, 767 00:32:22,292 --> 00:32:23,416 and I was crying... 768 00:32:25,625 --> 00:32:27,062 I said, "Gene, I need you! 769 00:32:27,063 --> 00:32:28,500 I need you! Come here! 770 00:32:28,501 --> 00:32:30,707 Come. Save me." 771 00:32:30,708 --> 00:32:33,708 [Gene Wilder] He called me from the phone on stage. 772 00:32:33,709 --> 00:32:36,040 He said, "Can you come tomorrow?" 773 00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:38,624 I said, "I'm supposed to go to London to do, uh, 774 00:32:38,625 --> 00:32:41,125 The Little Prince with Stanley Donen directing." 775 00:32:42,125 --> 00:32:43,374 "Beg off." 776 00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:45,499 - [groaning] - The next day I was on a plane, 777 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,791 and the next day I was hanging upside down in a jail cell. 778 00:32:48,792 --> 00:32:50,666 Are we awake? 779 00:32:54,833 --> 00:32:56,250 We are not sure. 780 00:32:57,791 --> 00:33:00,374 Are we Black? 781 00:33:00,375 --> 00:33:03,541 You know, it's just so great, his reading. 782 00:33:03,542 --> 00:33:06,875 And I said, "That's the Waco Kid." 783 00:33:06,876 --> 00:33:09,458 [Western style music] 784 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:14,875 Send a wire to the main office and tell 'em that I said... 785 00:33:14,876 --> 00:33:16,666 - [ringing thud] - Ow! 786 00:33:16,667 --> 00:33:18,457 Send wire, main office. 787 00:33:18,458 --> 00:33:21,353 Tell them I said, "Ow." Gotcha. 788 00:33:21,354 --> 00:33:24,249 {\an8}I was one of the bad guys, 789 00:33:24,250 --> 00:33:28,458 {\an8}but I was the funniest one of the bad guys, too. 790 00:33:28,459 --> 00:33:32,041 And I played him all through the thing, 791 00:33:32,042 --> 00:33:35,291 maybe not quite all there up here. 792 00:33:35,292 --> 00:33:38,165 [curious music] 793 00:33:38,166 --> 00:33:40,957 We come riding up in the picture 794 00:33:40,958 --> 00:33:43,665 and meet the Waco Kid and the sheriff. 795 00:33:43,666 --> 00:33:47,625 And Mr. Taggart says, "We're gonna shoot you guys." 796 00:33:47,626 --> 00:33:49,333 All right, boys. 797 00:33:49,334 --> 00:33:51,040 On a count of three. 798 00:33:51,041 --> 00:33:53,665 I wouldn't do that if I were you. 799 00:33:53,666 --> 00:33:56,853 [Burton Gilliam] We have our guns drawn 800 00:33:56,854 --> 00:34:00,593 and we're gonna shoot all the good guys. 801 00:34:00,594 --> 00:34:04,333 Gene, being the quick draw that he was, 802 00:34:05,166 --> 00:34:06,374 he's kind of like, 803 00:34:06,375 --> 00:34:09,916 "I got something here that you don't know I've got." 804 00:34:09,917 --> 00:34:12,540 - [suspenseful music] - [gunfire] 805 00:34:12,541 --> 00:34:16,291 He puts his guns back and you can see the smoke 806 00:34:16,292 --> 00:34:18,708 coming out of his holsters there. 807 00:34:18,709 --> 00:34:20,665 [cheering] 808 00:34:20,666 --> 00:34:26,000 So I'll remember Gene not just by his acting ability, 809 00:34:26,001 --> 00:34:28,000 which was wonderful... 810 00:34:28,001 --> 00:34:29,999 [mellow country music] 811 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,708 ...but because he was so good to me and so supportive. 812 00:34:34,709 --> 00:34:36,541 - [band music] - [crowd] Hurray! 813 00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:38,478 Hurray! Hurray! 814 00:34:38,479 --> 00:34:40,259 [music stops] 815 00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:42,041 [hooves clopping] 816 00:34:43,625 --> 00:34:46,875 [Mel Brooks] Even though it was a wild comedy... 817 00:34:46,876 --> 00:34:48,083 [chair thuds] 818 00:34:49,125 --> 00:34:50,666 ...in Blazing Saddles... 819 00:34:50,667 --> 00:34:52,582 [sign clatters] 820 00:34:52,583 --> 00:34:55,540 ...racial prejudice is the engine 821 00:34:55,541 --> 00:34:59,375 that really drives the film and helps to make it work. 822 00:35:00,291 --> 00:35:01,707 Good mornin', ma'am. 823 00:35:01,708 --> 00:35:03,958 [Mel Brooks] Cleavon Little, he sees a little old lady. 824 00:35:03,959 --> 00:35:05,457 ...a lovely morning? 825 00:35:05,458 --> 00:35:09,041 Trying to make friends with the citizens of Rock Ridge, 826 00:35:09,042 --> 00:35:12,499 and she says, "Up yours, n-word." 827 00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:16,208 The sheriff shakes his head and we can see tears. 828 00:35:16,209 --> 00:35:21,041 And Gene read these lines so beautifully. 829 00:35:21,042 --> 00:35:22,999 What did you expect? 830 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,416 "Welcome, sonny, make yourself at home"? 831 00:35:28,583 --> 00:35:30,332 "Marry my daughter"? 832 00:35:30,333 --> 00:35:33,416 You gotta remember that these are just simple farmers. 833 00:35:34,583 --> 00:35:36,958 These are people of the land. 834 00:35:37,916 --> 00:35:41,000 The common clay of the new West. 835 00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:43,875 You know... 836 00:35:46,083 --> 00:35:46,957 morons. 837 00:35:46,958 --> 00:35:48,292 [laughing] 838 00:35:48,293 --> 00:35:49,625 [bright music] 839 00:35:49,626 --> 00:35:53,334 And... and that was one of the funniest, you know, 840 00:35:53,335 --> 00:35:54,999 laughs in the whole picture, 841 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,250 and nobody in the world could have handled it 842 00:35:58,251 --> 00:36:01,041 half as well as Gene Wilder. 843 00:36:02,333 --> 00:36:04,645 [Burton Gilliam] And you can tell 844 00:36:04,646 --> 00:36:06,958 from the scene and listening to him, 845 00:36:06,959 --> 00:36:10,374 he's speaking from the heart. 846 00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:14,020 [Ben Mankiewicz] There is this authenticity to the Waco Kid 847 00:36:14,021 --> 00:36:17,665 that I don't think someone like John Wayne or Gig Young 848 00:36:17,666 --> 00:36:18,582 would have brought, 849 00:36:18,583 --> 00:36:21,541 because instantly it would have registered, 850 00:36:21,542 --> 00:36:24,728 "Oh, this is a veteran Western character actor 851 00:36:24,729 --> 00:36:27,916 doing a parody of a Western character actor." 852 00:36:28,833 --> 00:36:30,749 Gene Wilder played the Waco Kid 853 00:36:30,750 --> 00:36:35,208 as crazy and nutty but entirely believable. 854 00:36:35,209 --> 00:36:36,645 Where are you headed, cowboy? 855 00:36:36,646 --> 00:36:38,083 [soft Western style music] 856 00:36:38,084 --> 00:36:39,583 Nowhere special. 857 00:36:42,333 --> 00:36:43,750 Nowhere special. 858 00:36:45,291 --> 00:36:47,375 I always wanted to go there. 859 00:36:47,376 --> 00:36:48,290 What can I tell ya? 860 00:36:48,291 --> 00:36:52,375 He did a magnificent job all through the picture. 861 00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:54,750 [Ben Mankiewicz] I think 1974's probably the perfect year 862 00:36:54,751 --> 00:36:55,915 for Blazing Saddles. 863 00:36:55,916 --> 00:36:59,665 Blaxploitation films at their height. 864 00:36:59,666 --> 00:37:03,624 Having a smart and thoughtful Western parody 865 00:37:03,625 --> 00:37:07,416 that really takes a hard look at America's racism, 866 00:37:07,417 --> 00:37:08,750 that is genius. 867 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:18,000 [bright music] 868 00:37:19,958 --> 00:37:21,749 [Mike Medavoy] I met Gene one day 869 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:25,125 when I was buying clothes in Beverly Hills. 870 00:37:25,126 --> 00:37:26,040 {\an8}I introduced myself. 871 00:37:26,041 --> 00:37:29,083 {\an8}I said, "Gene, you know, I'm Mike Medavoy. 872 00:37:29,084 --> 00:37:31,812 {\an8}I'm an agent and I'd like to represent you." 873 00:37:31,813 --> 00:37:35,427 And I said, "The truth is, I look at your career, 874 00:37:35,428 --> 00:37:38,192 you oughta be writing and probably directing too." 875 00:37:38,193 --> 00:37:40,958 [Gene Wilder] Because of that accidental bump 876 00:37:40,959 --> 00:37:41,915 on the street corner, 877 00:37:41,916 --> 00:37:44,666 Mike Medavoy became my California agent. 878 00:37:45,375 --> 00:37:48,020 And I signed Gene. 879 00:37:48,021 --> 00:37:50,665 [tranquil music] 880 00:37:50,666 --> 00:37:52,541 [Gene Wilder] I rented a small house on the bay 881 00:37:52,542 --> 00:37:55,166 in Westhampton Beach, New York. 882 00:37:55,167 --> 00:37:57,790 After lunch one afternoon, 883 00:37:57,791 --> 00:37:59,249 I walked up to my bedroom 884 00:37:59,250 --> 00:38:02,375 with a yellow legal pad and a blue felt pen. 885 00:38:02,376 --> 00:38:04,625 At the top of the page, I wrote, 886 00:38:05,833 --> 00:38:07,458 "Young Frankenstein." 887 00:38:07,459 --> 00:38:10,124 [dramatic music] 888 00:38:10,125 --> 00:38:12,290 "The Birth of a Monster." 889 00:38:12,291 --> 00:38:14,749 And then wrote two pages of what might happen to me 890 00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:18,708 if I were the great-grandson of Beaufort von Frankenstein 891 00:38:18,709 --> 00:38:20,040 and was called to Transylvania 892 00:38:20,041 --> 00:38:21,624 because I had just inherited 893 00:38:21,625 --> 00:38:23,208 the Frankenstein estate. 894 00:38:23,209 --> 00:38:26,207 [mysterious music] 895 00:38:26,208 --> 00:38:29,458 That night I watched a summer replacement television show 896 00:38:29,459 --> 00:38:32,166 called The Marty Feldman Comedy Machine. 897 00:38:32,167 --> 00:38:33,999 Would you, uh, walk this way? 898 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,290 [Gene Wilder] After seeing it, 899 00:38:35,291 --> 00:38:38,541 I said, "Who is that funny man on television?" 900 00:38:41,583 --> 00:38:43,499 A week later, I received a call 901 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:46,562 from my California agent, Mike Medavoy. 902 00:38:46,563 --> 00:38:49,760 [Mike Medavoy] I was sitting in my office 903 00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:52,958 and Marty Feldman and his wife were there 904 00:38:52,959 --> 00:38:55,499 to try to get me to represent him. 905 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,416 And then Peter Boyle walked into the office. 906 00:38:58,417 --> 00:39:00,291 And so I introduced all of them. 907 00:39:00,292 --> 00:39:02,165 And I decided, "You know what? 908 00:39:02,166 --> 00:39:05,791 I have a feeling that this would be a really good group 909 00:39:05,792 --> 00:39:08,290 to put together with Gene." 910 00:39:08,291 --> 00:39:10,166 So I called Gene up on the phone. 911 00:39:10,167 --> 00:39:11,249 [phone dialing] 912 00:39:11,250 --> 00:39:12,332 [phone ringing] 913 00:39:12,333 --> 00:39:16,083 And I said, "Gene, do you have anything that you can do 914 00:39:16,084 --> 00:39:18,415 with Marty Feldman and Peter Boyle?" 915 00:39:18,416 --> 00:39:20,874 I said, "How did you happen to come up with that?" 916 00:39:20,875 --> 00:39:23,333 He said, "'Cause I represent you and Marty and Peter." 917 00:39:23,334 --> 00:39:25,583 - And, uh... - [audience laughs] 918 00:39:25,584 --> 00:39:26,832 As it happens, 919 00:39:26,833 --> 00:39:28,749 I think I do have something. 920 00:39:28,750 --> 00:39:30,208 I want to work on it for another day. 921 00:39:30,209 --> 00:39:31,665 I'll send it to you. 922 00:39:31,666 --> 00:39:33,415 - [typing] - That night, inspired by 923 00:39:33,416 --> 00:39:35,915 having just seen Marty Feldman on television, 924 00:39:35,916 --> 00:39:38,790 I wrote a scene that takes place at Transylvania Station 925 00:39:38,791 --> 00:39:41,457 where Igor and Frederick meet for the first time 926 00:39:41,458 --> 00:39:44,125 almost verbatim the way it was later filmed. 927 00:39:44,126 --> 00:39:46,708 [scraping footsteps] 928 00:39:49,416 --> 00:39:51,125 [Igor] Dr. Frankenstein? 929 00:39:51,126 --> 00:39:53,020 [thunder crashes] 930 00:39:53,021 --> 00:39:54,916 [eerie music] 931 00:39:56,958 --> 00:39:58,416 Frankenstein. 932 00:40:00,416 --> 00:40:02,165 You're putting me on. 933 00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:04,083 [Gene Wilder] I called Mel Brooks and told him 934 00:40:04,084 --> 00:40:05,958 my little Frankenstein scenario. 935 00:40:05,959 --> 00:40:07,290 [soft music] 936 00:40:07,291 --> 00:40:09,061 "Cute," he said, "that's cute." 937 00:40:09,062 --> 00:40:10,832 "What's your dream for this?" 938 00:40:10,833 --> 00:40:14,708 He said, "I want you to write it with me and direct it. 939 00:40:14,709 --> 00:40:16,875 And not be in it." 940 00:40:16,876 --> 00:40:18,665 [laughs] 941 00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:21,083 And I said, "Okay, I'll do it." 942 00:40:22,083 --> 00:40:23,540 [typing] 943 00:40:23,541 --> 00:40:25,915 [Gene Wilder] The next morning, I would start writing. 944 00:40:25,916 --> 00:40:28,291 Mel would come over after dinner each evening 945 00:40:28,292 --> 00:40:30,249 and look at the pages. 946 00:40:30,250 --> 00:40:33,333 When we thought we had a good script, 947 00:40:33,334 --> 00:40:36,124 we met Mike Gruskoff, 948 00:40:36,125 --> 00:40:38,978 a wonderful guy and a wonderful producer. 949 00:40:38,979 --> 00:40:41,833 And he said, "I've had a discussion already 950 00:40:41,834 --> 00:40:42,916 with Columbia Pictures." 951 00:40:42,917 --> 00:40:44,999 "Yeah? Yeah?" 952 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,500 [Mike Gruskoff] Gene, Mel, and I, 953 00:40:46,501 --> 00:40:48,957 we had a meeting at Columbia. 954 00:40:48,958 --> 00:40:51,915 I said, "We really like the script." 955 00:40:51,916 --> 00:40:54,457 {\an8}We thought we had something good, you know? 956 00:40:54,458 --> 00:40:57,000 {\an8}We definitely thought we had something good. 957 00:40:57,001 --> 00:40:58,499 We shook hands. 958 00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:02,666 We're ready, we're ready to make Young Frankenstein 959 00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:04,915 for Columbia Pictures. 960 00:41:04,916 --> 00:41:07,415 As we leave the... the meeting, 961 00:41:07,416 --> 00:41:09,541 I get to the door, before I shut it, I say, 962 00:41:09,542 --> 00:41:10,895 "Oh, by the way..." 963 00:41:10,896 --> 00:41:12,249 [dramatic music] 964 00:41:12,250 --> 00:41:17,458 "...in the James Whale 1931 Universal tradition, 965 00:41:17,459 --> 00:41:19,833 we are making it in black and white." 966 00:41:20,625 --> 00:41:22,208 Closed the door, left. 967 00:41:22,209 --> 00:41:23,415 [quirky music] 968 00:41:23,416 --> 00:41:26,103 A thundering herd of Jewish executives 969 00:41:26,104 --> 00:41:28,791 run after us down the hall, saying, 970 00:41:28,792 --> 00:41:30,708 "No, no, it's a deal-breaker." 971 00:41:30,709 --> 00:41:32,082 And as one, 972 00:41:32,083 --> 00:41:36,125 Gruskoff, and Gene, and Mel shouted back, 973 00:41:36,126 --> 00:41:38,457 "Then break it." 974 00:41:38,458 --> 00:41:41,499 Nobody wanted to do a black and white movie. 975 00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:45,166 Mike Gruskoff actually was very friendly with Alan Ladd, 976 00:41:45,167 --> 00:41:47,749 and took it to Fox. 977 00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:51,125 [Mike Gruskoff] Alan Ladd, Jr. was one of my close friends. 978 00:41:51,126 --> 00:41:53,832 He had come to Fox. 979 00:41:53,833 --> 00:41:55,625 Three days later, we had a deal. 980 00:41:56,666 --> 00:41:57,666 [dramatic music] 981 00:41:57,667 --> 00:42:00,083 [Ben Mankiewicz] If you're gonna make a parody tribute film 982 00:42:00,084 --> 00:42:02,124 of James Whale's Frankenstein, 983 00:42:02,125 --> 00:42:04,291 you're gonna have to do that in black and white 984 00:42:04,292 --> 00:42:05,415 if you're gonna do it right. 985 00:42:05,416 --> 00:42:08,291 Mel Brooks and Gene Wilder understood that. 986 00:42:08,292 --> 00:42:10,020 Columbia executives, 987 00:42:10,021 --> 00:42:11,750 to their eternal regret, 988 00:42:11,751 --> 00:42:13,165 did not. 989 00:42:13,166 --> 00:42:15,750 - [thunder crashes] - [dramatic music] 990 00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:21,415 [Gene Wilder] Making Young Frankenstein 991 00:42:21,416 --> 00:42:23,500 was the happiest I'd ever been on a film. 992 00:42:23,501 --> 00:42:24,957 [soft music] 993 00:42:24,958 --> 00:42:26,540 Madeline Kahn, Peter Boyle, 994 00:42:26,541 --> 00:42:28,749 Marty Feldman, Teri Garr, 995 00:42:28,750 --> 00:42:31,291 Cloris Leachman, Kenny Mars, 996 00:42:31,292 --> 00:42:33,832 and Mel directing. 997 00:42:33,833 --> 00:42:37,041 It was like taking a small breath of heaven each day. 998 00:42:39,166 --> 00:42:43,000 [Mike Gruskoff] Creatively, I let them do their thing. 999 00:42:43,001 --> 00:42:46,375 Gene and Mel take it to the next step. 1000 00:42:46,376 --> 00:42:48,145 They go beyond. 1001 00:42:48,146 --> 00:42:49,915 They have balls, 1002 00:42:49,916 --> 00:42:51,375 that's what they have. 1003 00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:55,000 [door handle clanging] 1004 00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:59,874 What knockers! 1005 00:42:59,875 --> 00:43:02,270 Oh, thank you, Doctor. 1006 00:43:02,271 --> 00:43:04,665 [soft, quirky music] 1007 00:43:04,666 --> 00:43:06,957 [Mike Gruskoff] Mel and Gene, 1008 00:43:06,958 --> 00:43:09,353 they're not afraid to go big. 1009 00:43:09,354 --> 00:43:11,750 They're not afraid of failure. 1010 00:43:11,751 --> 00:43:13,290 They'll take a chance. 1011 00:43:13,291 --> 00:43:15,353 The only thing that concerns me 1012 00:43:15,354 --> 00:43:17,416 is the preservation of life! 1013 00:43:19,291 --> 00:43:21,791 [Mel Brooks] I never had to give Gene any direction. 1014 00:43:24,625 --> 00:43:26,374 And I didn't have to, really, 1015 00:43:26,375 --> 00:43:28,895 'cause he was such a good actor. 1016 00:43:28,896 --> 00:43:31,416 We shall ascend into the heavens. 1017 00:43:31,417 --> 00:43:32,749 [thunder crashes] 1018 00:43:32,750 --> 00:43:36,124 We shall mock the earthquake. 1019 00:43:36,125 --> 00:43:39,124 [Mel Brooks] We had a code, blue and orange. 1020 00:43:39,125 --> 00:43:42,125 When I said, "Gene, blue," meant, "Bring it up." 1021 00:43:43,333 --> 00:43:46,666 Give me more intensity, more excitement. 1022 00:43:46,667 --> 00:43:48,332 When I said, "Orange," 1023 00:43:48,333 --> 00:43:50,957 I want you to play over the top. 1024 00:43:50,958 --> 00:43:54,458 I'd say, "Gene, I need orange here at the end of this." 1025 00:43:54,459 --> 00:43:55,874 "Got it." 1026 00:43:55,875 --> 00:43:57,708 Life, do you hear me? 1027 00:43:57,709 --> 00:43:58,749 [zapping] 1028 00:43:58,750 --> 00:44:03,957 Give my creation life! 1029 00:44:03,958 --> 00:44:05,791 [Mel Brooks] He could hit a high note... 1030 00:44:05,792 --> 00:44:06,915 [thunder crashes] 1031 00:44:06,916 --> 00:44:09,041 ...easily as high as Maria Callas. 1032 00:44:09,042 --> 00:44:10,708 He... he could go there. 1033 00:44:10,709 --> 00:44:12,165 He was amazing. 1034 00:44:12,166 --> 00:44:13,707 [soft, quirky music] 1035 00:44:13,708 --> 00:44:15,458 [Alan Alda] I had favorite moments of him, 1036 00:44:15,459 --> 00:44:18,165 as I do of most actors. 1037 00:44:18,166 --> 00:44:20,457 I admire so much the big moments 1038 00:44:20,458 --> 00:44:22,750 when he still was believable. 1039 00:44:22,751 --> 00:44:26,915 It's alive! 1040 00:44:26,916 --> 00:44:28,916 And then there was a quiet moment 1041 00:44:28,917 --> 00:44:31,082 in Young Frankenstein 1042 00:44:31,083 --> 00:44:33,978 when it was just as ludicrous, 1043 00:44:33,979 --> 00:44:36,874 but it was quiet and sincere. 1044 00:44:36,875 --> 00:44:40,541 He was questioning Igor like a little boy. 1045 00:44:40,542 --> 00:44:42,458 Would you mind telling me... 1046 00:44:44,416 --> 00:44:46,999 whose brain I did put in? 1047 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,124 And you won't be angry? 1048 00:44:50,125 --> 00:44:53,250 I will not be angry. 1049 00:44:53,916 --> 00:44:55,125 Abby someone. 1050 00:44:56,666 --> 00:44:57,791 Abby someone? 1051 00:44:59,041 --> 00:45:00,436 Abby who? 1052 00:45:00,437 --> 00:45:01,833 Abby Normal. 1053 00:45:04,541 --> 00:45:06,957 "Abby Normal." 1054 00:45:06,958 --> 00:45:09,416 I'm almost sure that was the name. 1055 00:45:09,417 --> 00:45:11,666 [forced laughter] 1056 00:45:13,375 --> 00:45:18,750 Are you saying that I put an abnormal brain 1057 00:45:18,751 --> 00:45:23,250 into a seven-and-a-half- foot long, 1058 00:45:23,251 --> 00:45:27,416 54-inch-wide... 1059 00:45:27,417 --> 00:45:28,812 [gasps] 1060 00:45:28,813 --> 00:45:30,207 ...gorilla? 1061 00:45:30,208 --> 00:45:32,332 He was so real about it 1062 00:45:32,333 --> 00:45:36,916 that it was just as absurd as the big, showy moment, 1063 00:45:36,917 --> 00:45:38,540 but even more hilarious, 1064 00:45:38,541 --> 00:45:41,250 because he meant it, he really meant it. 1065 00:45:41,251 --> 00:45:43,270 [flourish of harp] 1066 00:45:43,271 --> 00:45:45,290 We shall be friends. 1067 00:45:45,291 --> 00:45:47,520 [Michael Gruskoff] It was Gene Wilder's idea. 1068 00:45:47,521 --> 00:45:49,750 He says, "Well, maybe I can get Gene Hackman 1069 00:45:49,751 --> 00:45:51,541 to play the blind guy." 1070 00:45:51,542 --> 00:45:53,541 Because they were pals. 1071 00:45:53,542 --> 00:45:55,937 And he got Hackman, 1072 00:45:55,938 --> 00:45:58,332 who was so great. 1073 00:45:58,333 --> 00:45:59,458 Are you ready for your soup? 1074 00:45:59,459 --> 00:46:01,207 [grunting] 1075 00:46:01,208 --> 00:46:03,582 Oh, my friend, my friend. 1076 00:46:03,583 --> 00:46:05,958 You don't know how long I've waited for the pleasure 1077 00:46:05,959 --> 00:46:07,499 of another human being. 1078 00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:10,499 And sometimes, in our preoccupation... 1079 00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,499 - [exclamation] - [soft chuckling] 1080 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:16,708 And he was funny, he was very funny, you know? 1081 00:46:18,083 --> 00:46:18,999 Oof! 1082 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,750 [Gene Wilder] We never improvised dialogue on the set. 1083 00:46:21,751 --> 00:46:23,500 Would you like to have a roll in the hay? 1084 00:46:23,501 --> 00:46:25,249 [Gene Wilder] Physical actions, yes, 1085 00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:26,250 but not dialogue. 1086 00:46:26,251 --> 00:46:29,751 ♪ Roll, roll, roll in the hay ♪ 1087 00:46:29,752 --> 00:46:30,666 [camera assistant] Marker. 1088 00:46:30,667 --> 00:46:32,375 [Gene Wilder] We were filming the scene 1089 00:46:32,376 --> 00:46:34,666 of Madeline Kahn's arrival at the Frankenstein castle. 1090 00:46:34,667 --> 00:46:35,790 [Mel Brooks] Action! 1091 00:46:35,791 --> 00:46:37,541 [Gene Wilder] She was wearing a fox stole 1092 00:46:37,542 --> 00:46:38,874 and a big turban on her head, 1093 00:46:38,875 --> 00:46:39,875 and then Marty, 1094 00:46:39,876 --> 00:46:41,458 in one of his impulsive inspirations, 1095 00:46:41,459 --> 00:46:44,021 took a huge bite out of the tail of the fox fur 1096 00:46:44,022 --> 00:46:46,584 that Madeline was wearing around her neck. 1097 00:46:47,916 --> 00:46:50,000 But the tail came off in his mouth. 1098 00:46:50,001 --> 00:46:51,249 [Frankenstein] Stop that! 1099 00:46:51,250 --> 00:46:53,500 [Gene Wilder] And we couldn't not laugh. 1100 00:46:53,501 --> 00:46:54,833 May I go in? 1101 00:46:55,833 --> 00:46:56,833 [Mel Brooks] Cut! 1102 00:46:56,834 --> 00:46:58,832 [laughter] 1103 00:46:58,833 --> 00:47:00,165 [Gene Wilder] We all laughed, 1104 00:47:00,166 --> 00:47:02,999 and Marty was so funny doing it. 1105 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,500 Out of such lunacy, great comedy is born. 1106 00:47:06,501 --> 00:47:08,499 [robust laughter] 1107 00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:11,250 We had to stop a lot of times to... 1108 00:47:11,251 --> 00:47:12,499 That music! 1109 00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:14,375 [Michael Gruskoff] Because everybody was laughing. 1110 00:47:14,376 --> 00:47:15,812 That quaint... 1111 00:47:15,813 --> 00:47:17,249 [laughter] 1112 00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:18,707 [Mel Brooks] All right! 1113 00:47:18,708 --> 00:47:20,458 [Michael Gruskoff] We had to take breaks. 1114 00:47:20,459 --> 00:47:22,333 Follow me, please. 1115 00:47:22,334 --> 00:47:24,457 [laughter] 1116 00:47:24,458 --> 00:47:26,645 It cost me over $200. 1117 00:47:26,646 --> 00:47:28,832 I bought handkerchiefs, 1118 00:47:28,833 --> 00:47:31,603 about 150 handkerchiefs for the crew and everybody. 1119 00:47:31,604 --> 00:47:34,375 [Frankenstein] Now, listen to me very carefully. 1120 00:47:34,376 --> 00:47:37,457 Don't put the candle back. 1121 00:47:37,458 --> 00:47:39,750 I said, "When you feel a laugh coming on..." 1122 00:47:39,751 --> 00:47:41,707 [laughs] 1123 00:47:41,708 --> 00:47:43,500 "...shove that handkerchief in your mouth. 1124 00:47:44,666 --> 00:47:45,707 Stifle your laugh." 1125 00:47:45,708 --> 00:47:47,686 I think it may have been the "What hump?" 1126 00:47:47,687 --> 00:47:49,666 You know, I don't mean to embarrass you, 1127 00:47:49,667 --> 00:47:51,749 but I'm a rather brilliant surgeon. 1128 00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:54,291 Perhaps I could help you with that hump? 1129 00:47:55,125 --> 00:47:56,332 What hump? 1130 00:47:56,333 --> 00:47:59,499 [Mel Brooks] He turned to look at the crew 1131 00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:03,062 and I saw a sea of white handkerchiefs. 1132 00:48:03,063 --> 00:48:06,624 I said, "I think we got a hit here." 1133 00:48:06,625 --> 00:48:08,458 [Gene Wilder] In all the time we spent together, 1134 00:48:08,459 --> 00:48:10,749 Mel and I had only one argument. 1135 00:48:10,750 --> 00:48:12,832 It was when I showed him a scene I had written 1136 00:48:12,833 --> 00:48:16,500 in which Dr. Frankenstein and the monster sing and dance 1137 00:48:16,501 --> 00:48:19,207 to "Puttin' on the Ritz." 1138 00:48:19,208 --> 00:48:22,166 I said, "There's no 'Puttin' on the Ritz, ' 1139 00:48:22,167 --> 00:48:24,749 we are not gonna do that. 1140 00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:27,895 Because we have been very faithful 1141 00:48:27,896 --> 00:48:31,041 to James Whale and to the horror films 1142 00:48:31,042 --> 00:48:32,415 of the '30s. 1143 00:48:32,416 --> 00:48:34,374 This makes it silly." 1144 00:48:34,375 --> 00:48:37,291 I said, "No, we're not doing it, that's the end of it." 1145 00:48:37,292 --> 00:48:40,791 I was close to rage and tears. 1146 00:48:40,792 --> 00:48:42,333 [audience murmuring] 1147 00:48:42,334 --> 00:48:43,624 I argued logic 1148 00:48:43,625 --> 00:48:45,812 from Dr. Frankenstein's point of view. 1149 00:48:45,813 --> 00:48:48,000 His need to win over this stuffy audience 1150 00:48:48,001 --> 00:48:49,915 of scientists and their wives 1151 00:48:49,916 --> 00:48:53,875 that the monster could be taught to do anything. 1152 00:48:53,876 --> 00:48:56,208 And right in mid-sentence, Mel says, 1153 00:48:56,209 --> 00:48:57,540 "Okay, it's in." 1154 00:48:57,541 --> 00:48:59,832 [lively music playing] 1155 00:48:59,833 --> 00:49:02,208 "I wanted to see how hard you'd fight for it." 1156 00:49:02,209 --> 00:49:03,708 And I knew if you fought hard enough, 1157 00:49:03,709 --> 00:49:05,375 it was right." 1158 00:49:07,125 --> 00:49:08,290 [Mel Brooks] We would start shooting, 1159 00:49:08,291 --> 00:49:12,415 and Gene put everything he had into it to prove it. 1160 00:49:12,416 --> 00:49:15,041 ♪ Come, let's mix where Rockefellers walk with... ♪ 1161 00:49:15,042 --> 00:49:18,541 [Mel Brooks] And Peter Boyle was never better. 1162 00:49:18,542 --> 00:49:22,041 [monster howls "Puttin' on the Ritz" incoherently] 1163 00:49:22,042 --> 00:49:24,208 [Mel Brooks] After that was over, I said, 1164 00:49:24,209 --> 00:49:26,332 "Gene, accept my apology. 1165 00:49:26,333 --> 00:49:28,958 It's the best thing in the movie. 1166 00:49:28,959 --> 00:49:31,541 It's the reason we made it." 1167 00:49:33,166 --> 00:49:35,353 [feet tapping rhythmically] 1168 00:49:35,354 --> 00:49:37,541 [audience applauds, cheers] 1169 00:49:39,250 --> 00:49:42,499 [tranquil music playing] 1170 00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:43,541 [Ben Mankiewicz] When you think about 1171 00:49:43,542 --> 00:49:45,124 great cinematic collaborations... 1172 00:49:45,125 --> 00:49:47,708 I mean, whether you're talking about Tracy and Hepburn 1173 00:49:47,709 --> 00:49:50,207 or William Powell and Myrna Loy, 1174 00:49:50,208 --> 00:49:53,499 or, uh, Steven Spielberg and John Williams, 1175 00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:56,291 Mel Brooks and Gene Wilder belong in that class. 1176 00:49:56,292 --> 00:49:59,083 They fed off each other and that pushed them 1177 00:49:59,084 --> 00:50:01,166 to the heights they both achieved. 1178 00:50:01,167 --> 00:50:05,165 [majestic music playing] 1179 00:50:05,166 --> 00:50:06,875 [Gene Wilder] On the last day of filming, 1180 00:50:06,876 --> 00:50:08,290 during our lunch hour, 1181 00:50:08,291 --> 00:50:11,083 I was sitting in the Frankenstein bedroom set, 1182 00:50:11,084 --> 00:50:13,604 staring at the fake fireplace. 1183 00:50:13,605 --> 00:50:15,593 Mel wandered in and saw me. 1184 00:50:15,594 --> 00:50:17,582 "What's the matter? 1185 00:50:17,583 --> 00:50:19,874 Why so sad?" he asked. 1186 00:50:19,875 --> 00:50:22,083 "I don't want to leave Transylvania." 1187 00:50:22,084 --> 00:50:24,708 [majestic music playing] 1188 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:30,000 [lively music playing] 1189 00:50:32,625 --> 00:50:34,040 [reel clicking] 1190 00:50:34,041 --> 00:50:36,708 When we were in the thick of editing Young Frankenstein, 1191 00:50:36,709 --> 00:50:38,374 Mel turned to me and said, 1192 00:50:38,375 --> 00:50:40,040 "If you keep writing, 1193 00:50:40,041 --> 00:50:41,457 you're gonna want to direct 1194 00:50:41,458 --> 00:50:45,750 just so someone doesn't screw up what you've written." 1195 00:50:45,751 --> 00:50:49,290 Two weeks later, fate just struck again. 1196 00:50:49,291 --> 00:50:52,625 Alan Ladd, Jr. asked me if I wanted to direct 1197 00:50:52,626 --> 00:50:54,708 Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother, 1198 00:50:54,709 --> 00:50:56,790 my idea for a romantic comedy 1199 00:50:56,791 --> 00:50:59,957 about a brother of Sherlock Holmes. 1200 00:50:59,958 --> 00:51:01,166 [Mel Brooks] Gene said, "There's something 1201 00:51:01,167 --> 00:51:04,499 I want to write and direct." 1202 00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:06,958 And Gene Wilder went on to have a very nice career 1203 00:51:06,959 --> 00:51:09,915 as a writer-director. 1204 00:51:09,916 --> 00:51:11,457 [Gene Wilder] I had a comedy scene 1205 00:51:11,458 --> 00:51:13,686 at the beginning of filming Sherlock 1206 00:51:13,687 --> 00:51:15,915 that was one of my favorites. 1207 00:51:15,916 --> 00:51:19,165 I'm waiting to see Lord Redcliff in his study. 1208 00:51:19,166 --> 00:51:22,415 There's a tempting box of chocolates 1209 00:51:22,416 --> 00:51:25,915 sitting open on his desk and melting in the sun, 1210 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:29,416 so I decide to steal just one tiny piece. 1211 00:51:30,458 --> 00:51:31,582 [box clatters] 1212 00:51:31,583 --> 00:51:35,040 [playful music playing] 1213 00:51:35,041 --> 00:51:36,540 The crew was holding back laughter, 1214 00:51:36,541 --> 00:51:39,040 but all I was trying to do as an actor 1215 00:51:39,041 --> 00:51:42,665 was to act as normally as I possibly could. 1216 00:51:42,666 --> 00:51:45,541 It was the same lesson I'd learned from Charlie Chaplin 1217 00:51:45,542 --> 00:51:47,416 when I saw The Circus. 1218 00:51:51,208 --> 00:51:54,707 If the physical thing you're doing is funny, 1219 00:51:54,708 --> 00:51:57,916 you don't have to act funny while doing it. 1220 00:51:57,917 --> 00:51:59,124 [chocolates clatter] 1221 00:51:59,125 --> 00:52:01,478 Just be real and it will be funnier. 1222 00:52:01,479 --> 00:52:03,833 The acting lesson from this film 1223 00:52:03,834 --> 00:52:05,415 seemed so simple, 1224 00:52:05,416 --> 00:52:07,916 yet it inspired me for the rest of my career. 1225 00:52:09,541 --> 00:52:11,415 [languid music playing] 1226 00:52:11,416 --> 00:52:13,290 [Carol Kane] When I was 23, 1227 00:52:13,291 --> 00:52:16,666 {\an8}I was miraculously nominated for Best Actress 1228 00:52:16,667 --> 00:52:21,790 {\an8}for a movie called Hester Street. 1229 00:52:21,791 --> 00:52:26,500 The phone didn't ring for a solid year after that. 1230 00:52:26,501 --> 00:52:29,957 And the first call I got about work 1231 00:52:29,958 --> 00:52:34,333 was Gene calling about The World's Greatest Lover. 1232 00:52:34,334 --> 00:52:38,457 I had never in my life done a comedy. 1233 00:52:38,458 --> 00:52:43,833 Why would Gene Wilder be calling for me to be in a comedy? 1234 00:52:43,834 --> 00:52:46,958 [Ben Mankiewicz] You get some insight into Gene 1235 00:52:46,959 --> 00:52:48,832 that he casts Carol Kane. 1236 00:52:48,833 --> 00:52:50,707 This was not a comedy actress. 1237 00:52:50,708 --> 00:52:52,457 He had the sense... he knew people. 1238 00:52:52,458 --> 00:52:55,250 I mean, Carol Kane comes off this Oscar nomination 1239 00:52:55,251 --> 00:52:56,875 for a dramatic role, and he thinks, 1240 00:52:56,876 --> 00:52:58,833 "No, funny... she's funny." 1241 00:52:58,834 --> 00:52:59,915 And now we know, 1242 00:52:59,916 --> 00:53:02,625 now there's 40-plus years of evidence 1243 00:53:02,626 --> 00:53:03,915 that Carol Kane is funny. 1244 00:53:03,916 --> 00:53:07,207 But, you know, Gene recognized it. 1245 00:53:07,208 --> 00:53:10,978 [Gene Wilder] It was about a baker from Milwaukee in 1927 1246 00:53:10,979 --> 00:53:14,750 who wants to try out for a big Hollywood contest 1247 00:53:14,751 --> 00:53:17,604 to find the next Rudolph Valentino. 1248 00:53:17,605 --> 00:53:20,458 He takes his wife to Hollywood. 1249 00:53:21,916 --> 00:53:24,665 I will win that screen test, 1250 00:53:24,666 --> 00:53:27,228 not because I'm the best actor in the world, 1251 00:53:27,229 --> 00:53:29,790 not because I'm the sexiest man in the world, 1252 00:53:29,791 --> 00:53:32,375 not because I'm the most handsome man in the world, 1253 00:53:32,376 --> 00:53:36,166 but because I am unique! 1254 00:53:37,916 --> 00:53:40,916 [male singers] ♪ You ought to be in pictures ♪ 1255 00:53:40,917 --> 00:53:44,082 ♪ You're wonderful to see ♪ 1256 00:53:44,083 --> 00:53:46,374 ♪ You ought to be in pictures ♪ 1257 00:53:46,375 --> 00:53:50,208 ♪ Oh, what a hit you would be ♪ 1258 00:53:50,209 --> 00:53:52,729 [lively music playing] 1259 00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:55,249 For someone just beginning 1260 00:53:55,250 --> 00:53:59,582 as a director-writer- producer-star, 1261 00:53:59,583 --> 00:54:06,250 Gene was very calm and confident and happy. 1262 00:54:07,833 --> 00:54:12,166 [Alan Alda] When you write, direct, and act in a movie, 1263 00:54:12,167 --> 00:54:15,665 there are three ways they can kill you. 1264 00:54:15,666 --> 00:54:19,749 And if they wanna kill you, they go for all three. 1265 00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:23,833 Gene was able to exert his own artistic vision. 1266 00:54:23,834 --> 00:54:26,833 - I'm ready! - [exclamation] 1267 00:54:26,834 --> 00:54:29,832 [vintage jazz music playing] 1268 00:54:29,833 --> 00:54:33,457 [Carol Kane] The World's Greatest Lover 1269 00:54:33,458 --> 00:54:37,083 is a big love letter to movies, Hollywood, 1270 00:54:37,084 --> 00:54:40,000 all his idols. 1271 00:54:40,001 --> 00:54:41,915 Chaplin. 1272 00:54:41,916 --> 00:54:43,082 Busby Berkeley. 1273 00:54:43,083 --> 00:54:44,353 ♪ We're in the money ♪ 1274 00:54:44,354 --> 00:54:46,968 [Carol Kane] Laurel and Hardy 1275 00:54:46,969 --> 00:54:50,171 and these classic comedy bits. 1276 00:54:50,172 --> 00:54:53,374 The way Gene shot the movie, 1277 00:54:53,375 --> 00:54:56,916 extreme close-ups frequently of the eyes, 1278 00:54:56,917 --> 00:55:00,082 to let the eyes do the talking, 1279 00:55:00,083 --> 00:55:02,625 as they did in the silent-movie era. 1280 00:55:02,626 --> 00:55:04,499 [tango-style music playing] 1281 00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:08,708 [Ben Mankiewicz] He manages to convey hurt and longing 1282 00:55:08,709 --> 00:55:11,250 and fear and anger in those eyes 1283 00:55:11,251 --> 00:55:13,707 without speaking a line. 1284 00:55:13,708 --> 00:55:17,000 Gene Wilder would have been a great silent actor. 1285 00:55:17,001 --> 00:55:19,625 No surprise that he chose to make a film 1286 00:55:19,626 --> 00:55:23,332 that salutes silent Hollywood. 1287 00:55:23,333 --> 00:55:26,041 [Carol Kane] The lighting and the costumes and the makeup 1288 00:55:26,042 --> 00:55:29,333 is so evocative of that time. 1289 00:55:29,334 --> 00:55:32,624 [lush, romantic music plays] 1290 00:55:32,625 --> 00:55:36,208 That obviously appealed to Gene a lot. 1291 00:55:39,958 --> 00:55:43,000 I love Gene's choice of acting roles. 1292 00:55:44,208 --> 00:55:45,749 It's totally eclectic. 1293 00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:48,249 He did what he wanted to do. 1294 00:55:48,250 --> 00:55:50,041 What spoke to him, what he loved, 1295 00:55:50,042 --> 00:55:52,874 he just did it. 1296 00:55:52,875 --> 00:55:55,000 [Gene Wilder] It was called The Frisco Kid. 1297 00:55:55,001 --> 00:55:56,165 [thud] 1298 00:55:56,166 --> 00:55:59,707 [speaking Yiddish] 1299 00:55:59,708 --> 00:56:01,875 [Gene Wilder] A film about a Polish rabbi... 1300 00:56:01,876 --> 00:56:03,124 America. 1301 00:56:03,125 --> 00:56:04,687 [Gene Wilder] ...who comes to America 1302 00:56:04,688 --> 00:56:06,250 at the time of the gold rush... 1303 00:56:06,251 --> 00:56:07,207 - [grunt] - Oy! 1304 00:56:07,208 --> 00:56:10,376 [Gene Wilder] ...and becomes best friends with a bank robber 1305 00:56:10,377 --> 00:56:12,957 and is captured by Indians. 1306 00:56:12,958 --> 00:56:15,125 Yes or no: Can your god make rain? 1307 00:56:15,126 --> 00:56:16,707 He doesn't make rain! 1308 00:56:16,708 --> 00:56:19,791 [Gene Wilder] The rabbi and the chief form a friendship 1309 00:56:19,792 --> 00:56:21,832 discussing the Jewish god. 1310 00:56:21,833 --> 00:56:24,208 ...around blindly like little mice in the darkness, 1311 00:56:24,209 --> 00:56:27,458 but He does not make rain! 1312 00:56:27,459 --> 00:56:29,208 [lightning crashes] 1313 00:56:29,209 --> 00:56:31,124 [indistinct chatter] 1314 00:56:31,125 --> 00:56:33,040 [dramatic music playing] 1315 00:56:33,041 --> 00:56:36,353 [rain pattering, thunder rumbling] 1316 00:56:36,354 --> 00:56:39,666 Of course, sometimes, just like that, 1317 00:56:39,667 --> 00:56:41,583 He'll change His mind. 1318 00:56:43,375 --> 00:56:47,332 [soft piano music playing] 1319 00:56:47,333 --> 00:56:49,082 [Gene Wilder] The Frisco Kid came closer 1320 00:56:49,083 --> 00:56:52,916 to what I am in life than anything else. 1321 00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:57,333 We were never a particularly religious family 1322 00:56:57,334 --> 00:56:58,790 when I was growing up 1323 00:56:58,791 --> 00:57:00,895 in the sense of prayers at home or rituals, 1324 00:57:00,896 --> 00:57:03,000 other than going to my grandparents' 1325 00:57:03,001 --> 00:57:05,290 for a meal on Passover, 1326 00:57:05,291 --> 00:57:08,250 and going to the synagogue on the High Holidays. 1327 00:57:10,541 --> 00:57:12,874 [Rochelle Pierce] Gene's grandfather 1328 00:57:12,875 --> 00:57:15,332 {\an8}was president of his old synagogue, 1329 00:57:15,333 --> 00:57:19,291 {\an8}which was an old, little small Orthodox synagogue 1330 00:57:19,292 --> 00:57:21,416 in the old Jewish neighborhood. 1331 00:57:23,791 --> 00:57:26,666 We had strong feelings about Judaism. 1332 00:57:28,083 --> 00:57:31,291 I would say Gene was spiritual. 1333 00:57:33,416 --> 00:57:34,853 There's my mother in me, 1334 00:57:34,854 --> 00:57:36,291 and there's my father in me. 1335 00:57:37,458 --> 00:57:39,082 There was a certain innocence 1336 00:57:39,083 --> 00:57:41,040 about the way I acted onscreen. 1337 00:57:41,041 --> 00:57:43,875 I must have inherited it from my father. 1338 00:57:43,876 --> 00:57:45,249 My father was born in Russia 1339 00:57:45,250 --> 00:57:48,166 but came to Milwaukee with his family when he was 11. 1340 00:57:48,167 --> 00:57:51,166 He wasn't dumb, but he was very innocent. 1341 00:57:52,708 --> 00:57:55,208 [exclaiming in Yiddish] 1342 00:57:56,208 --> 00:57:58,708 [speaking Yiddish] 1343 00:58:08,625 --> 00:58:12,083 Dost thou speak English? 1344 00:58:14,416 --> 00:58:17,061 Dost thou 1345 00:58:17,062 --> 00:58:19,707 speak Eng... 1346 00:58:19,708 --> 00:58:22,166 [church bells tolling] 1347 00:58:22,167 --> 00:58:24,624 Oy... oy gevalt! 1348 00:58:24,625 --> 00:58:27,999 [indistinct murmuring] 1349 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,916 [Gene Wilder] The wonderful Robert Aldrich was directing, 1350 00:58:31,917 --> 00:58:35,499 and Mace Neufeld was the producer, 1351 00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:37,916 but we still had to find a co-star. 1352 00:58:37,917 --> 00:58:40,603 {\an8}When we started to do the film, 1353 00:58:40,604 --> 00:58:43,290 {\an8}we were gonna use John Wayne. 1354 00:58:43,291 --> 00:58:46,583 And he was all excited about joining the project. 1355 00:58:46,584 --> 00:58:47,999 [Gene Wilder] I was so happy, 1356 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,500 and one of the executives got the bright idea 1357 00:58:50,501 --> 00:58:53,375 of going out to Long Beach, California, 1358 00:58:53,376 --> 00:58:55,207 where John Wayne lived, 1359 00:58:55,208 --> 00:58:58,270 and tried to knock him down $250,000. 1360 00:58:58,271 --> 00:59:01,333 And he said, "Forget the whole thing." 1361 00:59:01,334 --> 00:59:03,707 He was out. 1362 00:59:03,708 --> 00:59:05,166 [Gene Wilder] I was asked to look at the work 1363 00:59:05,167 --> 00:59:07,353 of an up-and-coming young actor 1364 00:59:07,354 --> 00:59:09,540 by the name of Harrison Ford. 1365 00:59:09,541 --> 00:59:11,874 I thought Harrison was charming 1366 00:59:11,875 --> 00:59:14,791 and might possibly get somewhere in the business. 1367 00:59:14,792 --> 00:59:16,708 What do you call this, in Jewish? 1368 00:59:16,709 --> 00:59:19,624 A... a tuchus. 1369 00:59:19,625 --> 00:59:21,895 Well, you keep your eyes on this too-kas 1370 00:59:21,896 --> 00:59:24,166 and don't take 'em off till I tell ya. 1371 00:59:24,167 --> 00:59:25,999 {\an8}Harrison was super popular, 1372 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,500 {\an8}and everybody was crazy about him, 1373 00:59:28,501 --> 00:59:30,874 {\an8}but Gene was different. 1374 00:59:30,875 --> 00:59:33,165 Gene Wilder was one of my heroes. 1375 00:59:33,166 --> 00:59:36,333 He was smart, he was funny, he was kind. 1376 00:59:36,334 --> 00:59:39,250 He made me feel very special. 1377 00:59:39,251 --> 00:59:40,957 I was 14 years old, 1378 00:59:40,958 --> 00:59:44,208 and my father said that I was okay 1379 00:59:44,209 --> 00:59:48,291 to actually be in the movie. 1380 00:59:48,292 --> 00:59:49,874 So they made me up, 1381 00:59:49,875 --> 00:59:52,749 probably inappropriately, 1382 00:59:52,750 --> 00:59:55,624 and I was the Jewish Indian. 1383 00:59:55,625 --> 00:59:59,166 I remember feeling very excited but very nervous 1384 00:59:59,167 --> 01:00:00,812 to be on the set. 1385 01:00:00,813 --> 01:00:02,457 Everybody dance! 1386 01:00:02,458 --> 01:00:04,333 [Nancy Neufeld Callaway] So he's teaching the Indians 1387 01:00:04,334 --> 01:00:05,749 Jewish dancing. 1388 01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:07,374 [Avram] That's good with the hands. 1389 01:00:07,375 --> 01:00:08,539 Watch that lady! 1390 01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:11,498 I think that lady's a Jewish Indian. 1391 01:00:11,499 --> 01:00:13,707 [Nancy Neufeld Callaway] Gene had taken peyote, 1392 01:00:13,708 --> 01:00:14,956 but he doesn't know that. 1393 01:00:14,957 --> 01:00:17,331 ♪ Now we do a jump, a little bit of jump ♪ 1394 01:00:17,332 --> 01:00:19,040 [Nancy Neufeld Callaway] He is feeling the effects 1395 01:00:19,041 --> 01:00:19,957 of the drug. 1396 01:00:19,958 --> 01:00:21,000 [Avram] ♪ One, two, three ♪ 1397 01:00:21,001 --> 01:00:22,582 [drumming and vocalizing] 1398 01:00:22,583 --> 01:00:25,791 [Nancy Neufeld Callaway] And he passes out. 1399 01:00:25,792 --> 01:00:27,375 And I look at him and I go... 1400 01:00:28,708 --> 01:00:30,916 So, that's my big role in the movie. 1401 01:00:30,917 --> 01:00:32,790 [playful music playing] 1402 01:00:32,791 --> 01:00:36,458 [Mace Neufeld] Now we had Harrison Ford and Gene Wilder, 1403 01:00:36,459 --> 01:00:38,958 and Gene Wilder carried the comedy in the movie. 1404 01:00:38,959 --> 01:00:41,000 [Tommy] Don't wake me in the mornin'. 1405 01:00:42,833 --> 01:00:46,207 {\an8}I'll try to be as quiet as possible! 1406 01:00:46,208 --> 01:00:49,583 One example of Gene's connection to Judaism 1407 01:00:49,584 --> 01:00:52,874 is that Gene and Harrison Ford 1408 01:00:52,875 --> 01:00:55,083 are trying to get away from the bad guys. 1409 01:00:55,084 --> 01:00:56,541 What the hell are you doin'? 1410 01:00:57,458 --> 01:00:59,374 I don't ride today. 1411 01:00:59,375 --> 01:01:01,333 [Nancy Neufeld Callaway] And it's the Sabbath. 1412 01:01:01,334 --> 01:01:03,207 You can't ride on the Sabbath. 1413 01:01:03,208 --> 01:01:07,125 Gene says, "We have to wait for the sun to set." 1414 01:01:07,126 --> 01:01:08,541 Not yet! 1415 01:01:09,791 --> 01:01:11,041 Now! 1416 01:01:12,541 --> 01:01:14,499 [dramatic music playing] 1417 01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:17,583 [Nancy Neufeld Callaway] And as soon as the sun set... 1418 01:01:17,584 --> 01:01:19,041 - Now! - [Nancy] ...off they go. 1419 01:01:19,042 --> 01:01:20,165 Thank God. 1420 01:01:20,166 --> 01:01:22,625 Longest damned day of my life. 1421 01:01:24,708 --> 01:01:26,375 [Gene Wilder] I'll never be as good in drama 1422 01:01:26,376 --> 01:01:28,541 as I am in comedy. 1423 01:01:28,542 --> 01:01:30,707 - Oy! - [man shouts] 1424 01:01:30,708 --> 01:01:32,311 [Gene Wilder] But when I'm acting, 1425 01:01:32,312 --> 01:01:34,447 I want to be really funny 1426 01:01:34,448 --> 01:01:36,582 and part vulnerable. 1427 01:01:36,583 --> 01:01:40,583 Hey, we are doing this to keep warm, aren't we? 1428 01:01:40,584 --> 01:01:42,415 Uh-huh. 1429 01:01:42,416 --> 01:01:45,082 In that case, you can put your arms around me. 1430 01:01:45,083 --> 01:01:47,750 [Gene Wilder] That's what I like the best. 1431 01:01:47,751 --> 01:01:50,333 [majestic music playing] 1432 01:01:53,916 --> 01:01:55,790 I'm not a good actor; 1433 01:01:55,791 --> 01:01:57,311 I'm a good reactor. 1434 01:01:57,312 --> 01:01:58,832 Something happens. 1435 01:01:58,833 --> 01:02:02,291 That's why Richard and I are so good together. 1436 01:02:02,292 --> 01:02:04,875 [jazzy music playing] 1437 01:02:08,333 --> 01:02:11,124 Richard Pryor and I met in Calgary, Canada, 1438 01:02:11,125 --> 01:02:15,290 as we were both checking in at the hotel. 1439 01:02:15,291 --> 01:02:18,125 The next morning, we did our first short scene 1440 01:02:18,126 --> 01:02:21,125 in the film Silver Streak. 1441 01:02:21,126 --> 01:02:22,332 [gunshots] 1442 01:02:22,333 --> 01:02:24,958 There were police cars and helicopters and guns 1443 01:02:24,959 --> 01:02:26,541 all around us. 1444 01:02:26,542 --> 01:02:28,124 Argh! Shit! 1445 01:02:28,125 --> 01:02:29,374 Take it easy, killer. 1446 01:02:29,375 --> 01:02:30,625 What are you doing here? 1447 01:02:30,626 --> 01:02:31,665 [bullet ricochets] 1448 01:02:31,666 --> 01:02:34,915 When Richard and I did our first scene, 1449 01:02:34,916 --> 01:02:39,790 some magic happened, what they call chemistry. 1450 01:02:39,791 --> 01:02:41,875 I would answer him, back and forth, back and forth, 1451 01:02:41,876 --> 01:02:44,895 and we were on such a similar wavelength. 1452 01:02:44,896 --> 01:02:47,916 No thinking, just spontaneous reaction. 1453 01:02:47,917 --> 01:02:49,166 Who's in charge here? 1454 01:02:49,167 --> 01:02:50,916 Would you get down? 1455 01:02:50,917 --> 01:02:52,666 [bullet ricochets] 1456 01:02:54,250 --> 01:02:55,290 [Gene Wilder] That was the start 1457 01:02:55,291 --> 01:02:58,750 of our improvisatory relationship on film. 1458 01:03:00,791 --> 01:03:02,561 {\an8}My dad couldn't read very well. 1459 01:03:02,562 --> 01:03:04,332 {\an8}He was dyslexic a little bit. 1460 01:03:04,333 --> 01:03:07,686 So a lot of his education came from the feel of something. 1461 01:03:07,687 --> 01:03:11,041 [Gene Wilder] Richard's way always has an emotional 1462 01:03:11,042 --> 01:03:14,165 rather than intellectual base. 1463 01:03:14,166 --> 01:03:17,500 In this regard, Richard was my teacher. 1464 01:03:22,833 --> 01:03:24,832 - What are you doing? - I'm gettin' bad. 1465 01:03:24,833 --> 01:03:26,916 Better get bad, Jack, 'cause if you ain't bad, 1466 01:03:26,917 --> 01:03:28,832 you gonna get fucked. 1467 01:03:28,833 --> 01:03:30,540 You're bad, they don't mess with ya. 1468 01:03:30,541 --> 01:03:32,374 [Gene Wilder] Words kept coming out of my mouth 1469 01:03:32,375 --> 01:03:34,291 in response to things that Richard was saying. 1470 01:03:34,292 --> 01:03:35,749 - Get down! - Hey! 1471 01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:37,458 [Gene Wilder] Things that weren't in the script. 1472 01:03:37,459 --> 01:03:39,500 You a little too bad, ain't ya? 1473 01:03:39,501 --> 01:03:41,040 My dad knew undeniably 1474 01:03:41,041 --> 01:03:43,374 there was a magic between them. 1475 01:03:43,375 --> 01:03:47,791 That's right, that's right, we bad, uh-huh, that's right. 1476 01:03:47,792 --> 01:03:50,291 Together, it was like explosive on the screen. 1477 01:03:50,292 --> 01:03:51,582 Hi-ya! 1478 01:03:51,583 --> 01:03:53,083 [Ben Mankiewicz] I don't know what makes 1479 01:03:53,084 --> 01:03:55,999 a great comedy duo. 1480 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,082 They both have to be funny, 1481 01:03:57,083 --> 01:03:58,625 but they have to work off each other. 1482 01:03:58,626 --> 01:04:00,790 [playful music playing] 1483 01:04:00,791 --> 01:04:03,125 Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor, 1484 01:04:03,126 --> 01:04:04,707 they fuel each other. 1485 01:04:04,708 --> 01:04:08,790 And their improvs made them both better. 1486 01:04:08,791 --> 01:04:10,832 [Gene Wilder] The director, Sidney Poitier, 1487 01:04:10,833 --> 01:04:12,915 wanted the script rewritten to accommodate 1488 01:04:12,916 --> 01:04:16,832 the particular talents of his two stars. 1489 01:04:16,833 --> 01:04:20,165 Then he said, "I want you both to fly." 1490 01:04:20,166 --> 01:04:22,458 Please! He's sick, he's... he's havin' a fit. 1491 01:04:22,459 --> 01:04:24,041 See, he don't have his tooth pills. 1492 01:04:24,042 --> 01:04:25,291 He's got... see? 1493 01:04:25,292 --> 01:04:26,540 And we did fly. 1494 01:04:26,541 --> 01:04:27,750 - Harry. - [groans loudly] 1495 01:04:27,751 --> 01:04:29,040 Harry, for God's sake. 1496 01:04:29,041 --> 01:04:31,041 - Argh! - You're gonna get us in trouble. 1497 01:04:31,042 --> 01:04:32,625 [Rain Pryor] They're wild together. 1498 01:04:32,626 --> 01:04:33,979 Your crew is laughing. 1499 01:04:33,980 --> 01:04:35,332 Harry, here, come here. 1500 01:04:35,333 --> 01:04:38,666 They weren't afraid to be silly, 1501 01:04:38,667 --> 01:04:40,125 and it comes out genius. 1502 01:04:40,126 --> 01:04:42,500 All right, you two. 1503 01:04:42,501 --> 01:04:44,915 Up and at 'em! 1504 01:04:44,916 --> 01:04:47,500 [groaning and grunting] 1505 01:04:51,958 --> 01:04:56,082 Argh! I can't feel nothin' in my leg! 1506 01:04:56,083 --> 01:04:58,208 [Gene Wilder] Richard and I were certainly silly together, 1507 01:04:58,209 --> 01:05:00,457 at least on film. 1508 01:05:00,458 --> 01:05:02,082 But as close as we were on film, 1509 01:05:02,083 --> 01:05:04,624 it didn't carry over to our private lives. 1510 01:05:04,625 --> 01:05:06,541 [Rain Pryor] When the camera was off, that was it. 1511 01:05:06,542 --> 01:05:09,249 [bluesy organ music playing] 1512 01:05:09,250 --> 01:05:10,791 And that's kind of how they were, 1513 01:05:10,792 --> 01:05:12,249 and I understand that. 1514 01:05:12,250 --> 01:05:14,062 I mean, they were two polar opposites. 1515 01:05:14,063 --> 01:05:15,875 Gene, when you were doing those movies 1516 01:05:15,876 --> 01:05:17,040 with Richard Pryor, 1517 01:05:17,041 --> 01:05:20,500 did his drug usage ever get in the way of the film? 1518 01:05:20,501 --> 01:05:22,375 I got to know Richard 1519 01:05:22,376 --> 01:05:24,249 and I got to love him, 1520 01:05:24,250 --> 01:05:28,125 and he was going through a difficult period. 1521 01:05:28,126 --> 01:05:31,457 But I never talked to him about that. 1522 01:05:31,458 --> 01:05:34,770 [Rain Pryor] Whatever it was that he was going through, 1523 01:05:34,771 --> 01:05:38,083 he quieted it with his drugs and alcohols and women. 1524 01:05:38,084 --> 01:05:40,999 It was almost like self-sabotaging, 1525 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,666 you know, to not show up on time to set. 1526 01:05:43,667 --> 01:05:46,187 [dramatic music playing] 1527 01:05:46,188 --> 01:05:48,718 But when they came together, 1528 01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:51,249 a black-and-white duo team, 1529 01:05:51,250 --> 01:05:54,082 creating this laughter together, 1530 01:05:54,083 --> 01:05:57,666 that, to me, is what comedy is about. 1531 01:05:57,667 --> 01:05:59,750 You can't deny that's magic. 1532 01:06:01,416 --> 01:06:03,291 You're doing all right, you're getting the hang of it. 1533 01:06:03,292 --> 01:06:06,103 [Gene Wilder] My next movie project was 1534 01:06:06,104 --> 01:06:08,509 a comedy-mystery called Hanky Panky, 1535 01:06:08,510 --> 01:06:10,916 with Sidney Poitier directing. 1536 01:06:10,917 --> 01:06:12,624 [upbeat music playing] 1537 01:06:12,625 --> 01:06:14,958 Lots of female stars said they would do the movie, 1538 01:06:14,959 --> 01:06:17,208 but Sidney cast Gilda Radner. 1539 01:06:17,209 --> 01:06:19,666 [lively string music playing] 1540 01:06:19,667 --> 01:06:22,124 The day Gilda and I met, 1541 01:06:22,125 --> 01:06:24,749 I was in my makeup and dressed in a tuxedo 1542 01:06:24,750 --> 01:06:27,375 when I walked up to her to say hello. 1543 01:06:27,376 --> 01:06:29,207 Stay here, I'll be right back. 1544 01:06:29,208 --> 01:06:32,041 [Bobbie Wygant] Your co-star in this is Gilda Radner. 1545 01:06:32,042 --> 01:06:33,833 Isn't she wonderful? 1546 01:06:33,834 --> 01:06:35,624 Why are you smiling? 1547 01:06:35,625 --> 01:06:38,000 'Cause you wanna know what I think of her, 1548 01:06:38,001 --> 01:06:40,333 it'd be more than wonderful, yes. 1549 01:06:42,375 --> 01:06:46,145 {\an8}[Alan Zweibel] When Gilda went to do the movie Hanky Panky, 1550 01:06:46,146 --> 01:06:49,916 {\an8}she was having difficulty in the marriage that she was in. 1551 01:06:49,917 --> 01:06:51,374 [serene music playing] 1552 01:06:51,375 --> 01:06:53,708 So when she told me that she's becoming 1553 01:06:53,709 --> 01:06:56,874 very friendly with Gene Wilder, 1554 01:06:56,875 --> 01:07:00,791 very friendly, I'm going, "All right." 1555 01:07:00,792 --> 01:07:02,582 That was a euphemism for, 1556 01:07:02,583 --> 01:07:05,291 "I'm gonna end up with Gene Wilder." 1557 01:07:08,083 --> 01:07:11,665 [beguiling music playing] 1558 01:07:11,666 --> 01:07:15,166 [Robin Zweibel] He had a mesmerizing stare. 1559 01:07:16,875 --> 01:07:19,082 {\an8}And those eyes, those blue... 1560 01:07:19,083 --> 01:07:21,916 {\an8}I mean, I could see why Gilda fell in love with him. 1561 01:07:21,917 --> 01:07:25,541 Gilda was like 14-ish when her dad died. 1562 01:07:27,125 --> 01:07:28,750 Gene was one-stop shopping. 1563 01:07:28,751 --> 01:07:31,707 He was older, 1564 01:07:31,708 --> 01:07:35,416 so there was the dad thing. 1565 01:07:35,417 --> 01:07:38,520 He already had his own career. 1566 01:07:38,521 --> 01:07:41,625 And she was grateful for it. 1567 01:07:44,041 --> 01:07:45,853 [Gene Wilder] Gilda was the most generous 1568 01:07:45,854 --> 01:07:47,666 and compassionate and original person 1569 01:07:47,667 --> 01:07:49,457 I had ever met. 1570 01:07:49,458 --> 01:07:51,333 It was wonderful to be with Gilda, 1571 01:07:51,334 --> 01:07:53,165 most of the time. 1572 01:07:53,166 --> 01:07:57,291 She was so strong-willed and yet so fragile. 1573 01:07:57,292 --> 01:07:59,499 When Gilda met Gene, 1574 01:07:59,500 --> 01:08:01,750 she had a world of problems. 1575 01:08:01,751 --> 01:08:03,729 She drank too much. 1576 01:08:03,730 --> 01:08:05,707 She was a bulimic. 1577 01:08:05,708 --> 01:08:09,000 And Gene sent her to a battery of doctors 1578 01:08:09,001 --> 01:08:12,665 to redo her, to fix her, 1579 01:08:12,666 --> 01:08:14,875 and rehabilitates her, to a degree. 1580 01:08:14,876 --> 01:08:17,458 [rousing music playing] 1581 01:08:19,875 --> 01:08:21,624 [Gene Wilder] We were living in Los Angeles, 1582 01:08:21,625 --> 01:08:25,207 having just finished filming The Woman in Red. 1583 01:08:25,208 --> 01:08:29,582 Seeing Gilda looking strong and healthy and so happy, 1584 01:08:29,583 --> 01:08:33,958 I thought, "Maybe things between us can work." 1585 01:08:33,959 --> 01:08:35,583 [Mel Brooks] If I found a restaurant 1586 01:08:35,584 --> 01:08:37,082 that was interesting, 1587 01:08:37,083 --> 01:08:39,708 I'd always call him and say, "Let's go here." 1588 01:08:39,709 --> 01:08:41,187 And he'd take Gilda, 1589 01:08:41,188 --> 01:08:42,665 who loved my wife, Anne, 1590 01:08:42,666 --> 01:08:45,915 and Anne loved Gilda, so it was perfect. 1591 01:08:45,916 --> 01:08:48,665 We were best friends, it was wonderful. 1592 01:08:48,666 --> 01:08:50,957 {\an8}[Gene Wilder] Gilda was different. 1593 01:08:50,958 --> 01:08:53,249 {\an8}She said, "I'm not a perfect woman 1594 01:08:53,250 --> 01:08:55,125 that you've been searching for all your life. 1595 01:08:55,126 --> 01:08:57,874 I'm just little, imperfect Gilda. 1596 01:08:57,875 --> 01:09:01,583 And if that's what you want, a real love, 1597 01:09:01,584 --> 01:09:05,290 I'm your best bet." 1598 01:09:05,291 --> 01:09:09,333 We were married on September 18th, 1984. 1599 01:09:09,334 --> 01:09:11,833 [whimsical music playing] 1600 01:09:11,834 --> 01:09:14,332 She was 38 years old. 1601 01:09:14,333 --> 01:09:16,165 Now she wanted a baby. 1602 01:09:16,166 --> 01:09:18,500 Desperately, of course. 1603 01:09:20,583 --> 01:09:23,499 Just when it stops before you go away again. 1604 01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:26,416 Meanwhile, I was making a new movie, 1605 01:09:26,417 --> 01:09:28,665 Haunted Honeymoon. 1606 01:09:28,666 --> 01:09:32,708 {\an8}It's always much easier to kiss someone in a movie 1607 01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:35,249 that you kiss all the time. 1608 01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:37,791 'Cause it's familiar territory! 1609 01:09:39,333 --> 01:09:42,541 [Robin Zweibel] Gilda found out that she was pregnant 1610 01:09:42,542 --> 01:09:45,500 and was thrilled beyond belief. 1611 01:09:45,501 --> 01:09:48,457 She went in for an exam 1612 01:09:48,458 --> 01:09:51,625 and found out it was an ectopic pregnancy, 1613 01:09:51,626 --> 01:09:54,750 and it was devastating. 1614 01:09:54,751 --> 01:09:57,874 Everything was devastating. 1615 01:09:57,875 --> 01:10:00,665 A couple months after the surgery, 1616 01:10:00,666 --> 01:10:05,124 that's when they realized that she had ovarian cancer. 1617 01:10:05,125 --> 01:10:09,583 [Gene Wilder] Gilda grabbed my face in her hands 1618 01:10:09,584 --> 01:10:10,999 and sobbed. 1619 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,562 "No more bad news, no more bad news. 1620 01:10:13,563 --> 01:10:16,125 I don't want any more bad news." 1621 01:10:16,126 --> 01:10:18,708 [somber music playing] 1622 01:10:22,458 --> 01:10:24,915 There's something mythological 1623 01:10:24,916 --> 01:10:27,500 about somebody going through all of this, 1624 01:10:27,501 --> 01:10:30,750 finding the love of their lives, 1625 01:10:30,751 --> 01:10:34,208 and then, God saying, "Ha. 1626 01:10:34,209 --> 01:10:37,665 You're not gonna enjoy this." 1627 01:10:37,666 --> 01:10:40,125 [Robin Zweibel] She was on such a beautiful path 1628 01:10:40,126 --> 01:10:42,082 and beautiful life. 1629 01:10:42,083 --> 01:10:43,708 Everything that she ever dreamt of 1630 01:10:43,709 --> 01:10:44,915 was happening, 1631 01:10:44,916 --> 01:10:47,083 and then, this was like a bomb 1632 01:10:47,084 --> 01:10:49,125 that fell in her lap. 1633 01:10:49,126 --> 01:10:50,499 [shutter clicks] 1634 01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:53,000 [Gene Wilder] Between her chemotherapy treatments, 1635 01:10:53,001 --> 01:10:54,729 Gilda would come home and try to lead 1636 01:10:54,730 --> 01:10:56,457 as normal a life as possible, 1637 01:10:56,458 --> 01:10:59,624 but the first few days were always exhausting 1638 01:10:59,625 --> 01:11:02,395 because she was so hyped-up from steroids. 1639 01:11:02,396 --> 01:11:05,166 [Alan Zweibel] I remember, we were out once, 1640 01:11:05,167 --> 01:11:06,290 I said, "How you doing?" 1641 01:11:06,291 --> 01:11:08,250 And she said, "I'm doing the best I can, 1642 01:11:08,251 --> 01:11:09,999 but, poor Gene. 1643 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,625 You have no idea what I'm putting that guy through." 1644 01:11:14,083 --> 01:11:16,583 It was unfortunate he had to be put to that test, 1645 01:11:16,584 --> 01:11:19,332 but he was terrific. 1646 01:11:19,333 --> 01:11:21,416 She made herself very public when she was sick. 1647 01:11:21,417 --> 01:11:23,958 She was on the cover of Life magazine. 1648 01:11:23,959 --> 01:11:25,583 She did a thousand interviews. 1649 01:11:25,584 --> 01:11:27,207 She went on Letterman 1650 01:11:27,208 --> 01:11:29,291 and on a show I co-created called 1651 01:11:29,292 --> 01:11:31,374 It's Garry Shandling's Show. 1652 01:11:31,375 --> 01:11:34,208 Gene was very supportive of her coming on. 1653 01:11:35,666 --> 01:11:38,249 When she got cancer, 1654 01:11:38,250 --> 01:11:41,208 I never thought that she would die from it. 1655 01:11:41,209 --> 01:11:42,875 I thought she'd lick it. 1656 01:11:44,458 --> 01:11:47,833 I was stupid, 'cause everyone else seemed to know 1657 01:11:47,834 --> 01:11:49,415 but I didn't. 1658 01:11:49,416 --> 01:11:52,000 [tranquil music playing] 1659 01:11:55,708 --> 01:11:58,375 She was 43 years old when she died. 1660 01:11:58,376 --> 01:11:59,999 [bird chirping] 1661 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,416 I buried her in front of a tall white ash tree 1662 01:12:03,417 --> 01:12:06,833 three miles from her home in Connecticut. 1663 01:12:08,583 --> 01:12:10,165 I used to worry all my early life 1664 01:12:10,166 --> 01:12:13,332 about being good enough to please God. 1665 01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:15,957 Gilda didn't think about those things. 1666 01:12:15,958 --> 01:12:18,582 She was just naturally good. 1667 01:12:18,583 --> 01:12:21,375 I don't want to be a better person than Gilda. 1668 01:12:21,376 --> 01:12:23,249 She was just human, 1669 01:12:23,250 --> 01:12:26,291 and that's all I want to be, just human. 1670 01:12:26,292 --> 01:12:28,875 [pensive music playing] 1671 01:12:34,166 --> 01:12:35,999 In our bedroom in Connecticut, 1672 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,290 for the sake of my psychological health, 1673 01:12:39,291 --> 01:12:43,958 I was rewriting a comedy for me and Richard Pryor. 1674 01:12:43,959 --> 01:12:46,040 It sounds oxymoronic, 1675 01:12:46,041 --> 01:12:49,291 but absurdity was a familiar guest now. 1676 01:12:49,292 --> 01:12:51,978 [serene music playing] 1677 01:12:51,979 --> 01:12:54,665 I had done research 1678 01:12:54,666 --> 01:12:56,749 at the Braille Institute in Los Angeles 1679 01:12:56,750 --> 01:13:01,165 which gave me confidence in writing Richard's part. 1680 01:13:01,166 --> 01:13:04,061 I needed to know about people who were profoundly deaf, 1681 01:13:04,062 --> 01:13:06,958 which was the case with the character I was to play. 1682 01:13:06,959 --> 01:13:09,041 [sprightly music playing] 1683 01:13:09,042 --> 01:13:11,124 So I went to see this lady 1684 01:13:11,125 --> 01:13:13,416 at the New York League for the Hard of Hearing. 1685 01:13:13,417 --> 01:13:16,666 They told me her name was "Ms. Webb." 1686 01:13:16,667 --> 01:13:19,165 I said, "Oh my God, my luck, 1687 01:13:19,166 --> 01:13:21,665 some New England old biddy is gonna say, 1688 01:13:21,666 --> 01:13:23,583 'You're making fun of the blind and the deaf!'" 1689 01:13:23,584 --> 01:13:25,415 {\an8}So I just thought, 1690 01:13:25,416 --> 01:13:28,166 {\an8}I'll meet him just like a regular person. 1691 01:13:28,167 --> 01:13:30,625 And he wasn't a regular person. 1692 01:13:30,626 --> 01:13:32,125 He was gorgeous! 1693 01:13:32,126 --> 01:13:33,832 [laughs] 1694 01:13:33,833 --> 01:13:35,874 [bright music playing] 1695 01:13:35,875 --> 01:13:40,291 He was very interested in getting his character right. 1696 01:13:41,541 --> 01:13:42,999 He came to class and he saw 1697 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,083 how people learned how to lip-read. 1698 01:13:45,084 --> 01:13:46,040 Bath. 1699 01:13:46,041 --> 01:13:47,915 And he'd ask them a question, 1700 01:13:47,916 --> 01:13:50,750 like, "Does everybody say, 'What are you, fuckin' deaf?'" 1701 01:13:50,751 --> 01:13:52,916 And they'd say, "All the time." 1702 01:13:52,917 --> 01:13:54,832 [horn blaring] 1703 01:13:54,833 --> 01:13:56,832 And that line is in the movie. 1704 01:13:56,833 --> 01:13:59,416 [driver] What are you, fuckin' deaf? Move! 1705 01:13:59,417 --> 01:14:00,582 [woman] Get out of the way! 1706 01:14:00,583 --> 01:14:02,416 [Gene Wilder] And then I would take little plugs 1707 01:14:02,417 --> 01:14:03,957 and put them in my ears so I could walk 1708 01:14:03,958 --> 01:14:05,958 through the streets of New York, and it cut out 1709 01:14:05,959 --> 01:14:08,124 about 65 percent of sound. 1710 01:14:08,125 --> 01:14:11,291 - Ya dumb idiot! - You're a dumb idiot! 1711 01:14:11,292 --> 01:14:12,915 You talkin' to me? 1712 01:14:12,916 --> 01:14:14,416 [Rain Pryor] See No Evil, Hear No Evil 1713 01:14:14,417 --> 01:14:15,665 was a big deal for Daddy 1714 01:14:15,666 --> 01:14:19,708 {\an8}because it was two and half years into 1715 01:14:19,709 --> 01:14:22,666 {\an8}his multiple sclerosis diagnosis. 1716 01:14:22,667 --> 01:14:25,625 He needed something for him to show 1717 01:14:25,626 --> 01:14:28,250 he could still do what he does. 1718 01:14:28,251 --> 01:14:30,874 Dad was definitely very authentic, 1719 01:14:30,875 --> 01:14:33,083 because he was going through all those things. 1720 01:14:33,084 --> 01:14:34,915 He was having trouble. 1721 01:14:34,916 --> 01:14:37,625 He... he was that blind man... 1722 01:14:37,626 --> 01:14:38,915 I'm blind. 1723 01:14:38,916 --> 01:14:40,583 [Rain Pryor]...who lost his eyesight. 1724 01:14:40,584 --> 01:14:42,082 You're blind? 1725 01:14:42,083 --> 01:14:44,124 Yes, I'm blind. Now can I have the job? 1726 01:14:44,125 --> 01:14:49,500 So, everything was authentic for him in that moment. 1727 01:14:49,501 --> 01:14:51,583 [Richard Pryor] And we were very conscious 1728 01:14:51,584 --> 01:14:53,082 of the fact that we were doing 1729 01:14:53,083 --> 01:14:56,250 a film about people with a disability. 1730 01:14:57,666 --> 01:15:00,624 We worked very diligently 1731 01:15:00,625 --> 01:15:03,603 at not offending people. 1732 01:15:03,604 --> 01:15:06,582 I had no idea, I'm sorry. 1733 01:15:06,583 --> 01:15:09,500 [Wally] Now you know. Can I get the job? 1734 01:15:10,583 --> 01:15:12,290 You're really blind? 1735 01:15:12,291 --> 01:15:13,770 Yes. I'm really blind, man! 1736 01:15:13,771 --> 01:15:15,250 What are you, fuckin' deaf? 1737 01:15:15,251 --> 01:15:18,374 Yes! I'm fucking deaf! 1738 01:15:18,375 --> 01:15:19,749 They both were so vulnerable, 1739 01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:22,833 and I think they both wore their hearts on their sleeve, 1740 01:15:22,834 --> 01:15:25,500 and that's what we see coming across, you know, 1741 01:15:25,501 --> 01:15:28,457 on the camera, is this real love. 1742 01:15:28,458 --> 01:15:32,208 I got to be on set and watch the process 1743 01:15:32,209 --> 01:15:34,707 of them work together, 1744 01:15:34,708 --> 01:15:38,582 and the kindness that I saw Gene display 1745 01:15:38,583 --> 01:15:42,750 towards my dad, who was struggling sometimes physically. 1746 01:15:42,751 --> 01:15:44,083 We have steps coming up, Wally. 1747 01:15:44,084 --> 01:15:45,290 Three steps, and... 1748 01:15:45,291 --> 01:15:48,958 [Rain Pryor] I witnessed my dad having trouble walking, 1749 01:15:48,959 --> 01:15:50,750 holding on, and remembering lines 1750 01:15:50,751 --> 01:15:52,790 because of the MS. 1751 01:15:52,791 --> 01:15:56,415 And I loved that, in a non-obvious way, 1752 01:15:56,416 --> 01:16:00,041 Gene was there for him to be able to be unsteady 1753 01:16:00,042 --> 01:16:03,208 but not come off unsteady to us. 1754 01:16:03,209 --> 01:16:06,332 - That's teamwork. - ...go! 1755 01:16:06,333 --> 01:16:07,973 [Gene Wilder] Of all the pleasurable times 1756 01:16:08,041 --> 01:16:10,020 that Richard and I had on previous films... 1757 01:16:10,021 --> 01:16:12,051 and there were some wonderful times, 1758 01:16:12,052 --> 01:16:14,082 despite the difficulties... 1759 01:16:14,083 --> 01:16:16,541 the experience on See No Evil, Hear No Evil 1760 01:16:16,542 --> 01:16:17,749 was the happiest. 1761 01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:20,666 - What are you doing? - [Gene Wilder] Richard was sane 1762 01:16:20,667 --> 01:16:23,583 and clearheaded and filled with good humor. 1763 01:16:23,584 --> 01:16:25,541 I have a lot of love for you. 1764 01:16:25,542 --> 01:16:27,333 [Dave] Thank you. 1765 01:16:27,334 --> 01:16:29,291 [gentle thud] 1766 01:16:29,292 --> 01:16:31,249 Ha! Ha-ha! 1767 01:16:31,250 --> 01:16:33,250 People looked forward to these "buddy" films. 1768 01:16:33,251 --> 01:16:35,290 [soft music playing] 1769 01:16:35,291 --> 01:16:37,875 The formula wasn't just in the writing; 1770 01:16:37,876 --> 01:16:40,458 the formula was the two people. 1771 01:16:41,625 --> 01:16:42,499 Here they were, 1772 01:16:42,500 --> 01:16:45,374 from different sides of racial lines, 1773 01:16:45,375 --> 01:16:49,916 being able to come together and make us laugh. 1774 01:16:49,917 --> 01:16:53,500 And that's an amazing legacy. 1775 01:16:56,541 --> 01:16:59,041 [stirring music playing] 1776 01:17:00,541 --> 01:17:03,041 [Gene Wilder] In September of 1989, 1777 01:17:03,042 --> 01:17:04,332 I got a call from 1778 01:17:04,333 --> 01:17:06,249 the New York League for the Hard of Hearing 1779 01:17:06,250 --> 01:17:09,228 saying that Ms. Webb wanted to speak to me. 1780 01:17:09,229 --> 01:17:12,208 I called him and said that I had grant money... 1781 01:17:13,625 --> 01:17:15,207 {\an8}...to make a videotape 1782 01:17:15,208 --> 01:17:16,624 {\an8}for people to learn to speech-read 1783 01:17:16,625 --> 01:17:19,500 {\an8}so that we could put them in libraries. 1784 01:17:19,501 --> 01:17:21,583 And he said, "I'd help you with that." 1785 01:17:22,791 --> 01:17:24,165 [Gene Wilder] We arranged to meet 1786 01:17:24,166 --> 01:17:26,708 at my favorite Italian restaurant in Manhattan. 1787 01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:28,916 She set a tape recorder between us, 1788 01:17:28,917 --> 01:17:30,207 and while we ate, 1789 01:17:30,208 --> 01:17:34,250 Karen posed common problems for the hearing-impaired. 1790 01:17:34,251 --> 01:17:36,708 The second time we met, at the same restaurant, 1791 01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:39,416 we worked on improving the actual language 1792 01:17:39,417 --> 01:17:42,125 that the characters in each sketch would use. 1793 01:17:42,126 --> 01:17:44,582 The third week, I said, 1794 01:17:44,583 --> 01:17:46,958 "Leave the tape recorder at home." 1795 01:17:46,959 --> 01:17:48,665 [audience laughter] 1796 01:17:48,666 --> 01:17:50,874 We had our first actual date 1797 01:17:50,875 --> 01:17:54,208 on a beautiful fall evening in the same restaurant 1798 01:17:54,209 --> 01:17:58,874 at the same corner table. 1799 01:17:58,875 --> 01:18:02,250 [Karen Wilder] He was unique in that he truly listened. 1800 01:18:02,251 --> 01:18:05,333 He was just a different kind of person 1801 01:18:05,334 --> 01:18:06,708 than I'd ever met. 1802 01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:08,082 [shutter snaps] 1803 01:18:08,083 --> 01:18:09,832 [Gene Wilder] I'd hold Karen's hand. 1804 01:18:09,833 --> 01:18:13,541 To have found someone at this stage in my life... 1805 01:18:13,542 --> 01:18:15,832 I was in love. 1806 01:18:15,833 --> 01:18:19,332 Now I'll go back to watercolor painting 1807 01:18:19,333 --> 01:18:22,833 and maybe to acting, if I get another job, 1808 01:18:22,834 --> 01:18:25,791 and... and I'm gonna get married. 1809 01:18:26,916 --> 01:18:28,082 Are... Is this an announcement? 1810 01:18:28,083 --> 01:18:29,958 Can we... can we... I mean, is this the first time 1811 01:18:29,959 --> 01:18:31,082 you've mentioned it? 1812 01:18:31,083 --> 01:18:32,791 - Yes, yeah. - [Dick Cavett] You kiddin' me? 1813 01:18:32,792 --> 01:18:34,500 I was wondering whether to ask her, and I... 1814 01:18:34,501 --> 01:18:35,582 Looking at you, I decided, 1815 01:18:35,583 --> 01:18:37,541 "I'm going to ask that girl to marry me." 1816 01:18:37,542 --> 01:18:39,165 [laughter] 1817 01:18:39,166 --> 01:18:41,186 [soft, sprightly music playing] 1818 01:18:41,187 --> 01:18:43,207 On September 8th, 1991, 1819 01:18:43,208 --> 01:18:45,332 Karen and I were married in the backyard 1820 01:18:45,333 --> 01:18:48,686 of the home in Connecticut that Gilda had left me. 1821 01:18:48,687 --> 01:18:52,041 Fate brought us together at this exact point 1822 01:18:52,042 --> 01:18:54,457 in both of our lives. 1823 01:18:54,458 --> 01:18:56,666 If I hadn't been in See No Evil, Hear No Evil, 1824 01:18:56,667 --> 01:18:59,228 I would never have met "Ms. Webb," 1825 01:18:59,229 --> 01:19:01,791 and now I'm married to her. 1826 01:19:03,875 --> 01:19:06,374 [Karen Wilder] Gene was wonderful. 1827 01:19:06,375 --> 01:19:12,666 He was the best husband I think anybody could ask for. 1828 01:19:12,667 --> 01:19:18,958 To love and be loved is the best gift in the world. 1829 01:19:18,959 --> 01:19:20,624 And we had that. 1830 01:19:20,625 --> 01:19:23,208 [pensive music playing] 1831 01:19:24,750 --> 01:19:27,166 We did watercolors together. 1832 01:19:28,333 --> 01:19:30,458 And we played tennis together. 1833 01:19:31,333 --> 01:19:33,811 And we walked together, 1834 01:19:33,812 --> 01:19:36,290 we played golf together. 1835 01:19:36,291 --> 01:19:39,000 He was the world's greatest lover, 1836 01:19:39,001 --> 01:19:41,583 and he was my Frisco Kid. 1837 01:19:41,584 --> 01:19:44,165 He truly cared about me. 1838 01:19:44,166 --> 01:19:47,666 He loved my family, even my grandchildren. 1839 01:19:47,667 --> 01:19:50,208 And everybody felt that love. 1840 01:19:50,209 --> 01:19:53,832 [gibberish, laughter] 1841 01:19:53,833 --> 01:19:55,541 [Gene Wilder] We took tap-dancing lessons 1842 01:19:55,542 --> 01:19:56,874 once a week. 1843 01:19:56,875 --> 01:19:59,437 Karen found a wonderful teacher, 1844 01:19:59,438 --> 01:20:01,999 and here's the amazing thing: 1845 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,540 It felt as exciting as it did 1846 01:20:03,541 --> 01:20:06,540 when we had our first actual date 1847 01:20:06,541 --> 01:20:09,957 when she was still a stranger to me. 1848 01:20:09,958 --> 01:20:13,375 With Karen, I do believe in fate. 1849 01:20:13,376 --> 01:20:14,707 [uplifting music playing] 1850 01:20:14,708 --> 01:20:17,333 [Conan O'Brien] You've been through so much. 1851 01:20:17,334 --> 01:20:20,541 You've had incredible career success. 1852 01:20:20,542 --> 01:20:22,749 You've had tragedy in your life. 1853 01:20:22,750 --> 01:20:24,457 You seem like you're in a really good place now, 1854 01:20:24,458 --> 01:20:26,875 you're happy, and that made me feel really, you know... 1855 01:20:26,876 --> 01:20:28,500 that made me feel good, 'cause I just... 1856 01:20:28,501 --> 01:20:30,125 I want you to be happy, so that was nice. 1857 01:20:30,126 --> 01:20:31,749 That's true, right? You feel good. 1858 01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:33,790 I'm happier than I've ever been in my life. 1859 01:20:33,791 --> 01:20:36,125 - That's fantastic. Well... - [audience applause] 1860 01:20:36,126 --> 01:20:37,582 That makes... 1861 01:20:37,583 --> 01:20:39,833 [Karen Wilder] When he had television interviews, 1862 01:20:39,834 --> 01:20:41,082 I went with him. 1863 01:20:41,083 --> 01:20:42,853 I went with him everywhere. 1864 01:20:42,854 --> 01:20:44,905 I went to the movie set. 1865 01:20:44,906 --> 01:20:46,958 And I would watch him act. 1866 01:20:46,959 --> 01:20:48,124 [thwack] 1867 01:20:48,125 --> 01:20:49,770 [audience laughter] 1868 01:20:49,771 --> 01:20:51,415 I'm sorry, Mr. Truman. 1869 01:20:51,416 --> 01:20:53,415 - Does my pounding disturb you? - No, sir. 1870 01:20:53,416 --> 01:20:55,415 It just... just caught me by surprise. 1871 01:20:55,416 --> 01:20:57,708 Oh, okay, well, I'll try to be more considerate 1872 01:20:57,709 --> 01:20:58,790 in the future! 1873 01:20:58,791 --> 01:21:01,666 [Eric McCormack] We were blessed with Gene 1874 01:21:01,667 --> 01:21:03,499 coming on Will & Grace. 1875 01:21:03,500 --> 01:21:05,332 [thumping, kicking] 1876 01:21:05,333 --> 01:21:07,541 - We were just floored. - [door slams] 1877 01:21:07,542 --> 01:21:09,750 {\an8}I like to think that he recognized 1878 01:21:09,751 --> 01:21:12,957 {\an8}something in the show that... 1879 01:21:12,958 --> 01:21:16,583 that harkened back to all the things he brought. 1880 01:21:16,584 --> 01:21:19,332 He was so kind and gentle. 1881 01:21:19,333 --> 01:21:20,833 And I just wanted to make him laugh. 1882 01:21:20,834 --> 01:21:22,666 Say, "I'm Stein." 1883 01:21:22,667 --> 01:21:23,874 I'm Stein. 1884 01:21:23,875 --> 01:21:26,708 - Louder! "I'm Stein!" - Louder! "I'm Stein!" 1885 01:21:26,709 --> 01:21:29,458 I surprised him with something in a take 1886 01:21:29,459 --> 01:21:30,540 that I'm very proud of. 1887 01:21:30,541 --> 01:21:35,040 [Will] Your name is Frankenstein! 1888 01:21:35,041 --> 01:21:36,416 [Eric McCormack] It was just so lovely. 1889 01:21:36,417 --> 01:21:38,375 It's one of my favorite memories. 1890 01:21:38,376 --> 01:21:40,082 [Gene and audience laughing] 1891 01:21:40,083 --> 01:21:42,207 There was a gentleness to the show, 1892 01:21:42,208 --> 01:21:44,124 and there was a sensitivity to the show, 1893 01:21:44,125 --> 01:21:46,500 and there was an insane wackiness to the show. 1894 01:21:46,501 --> 01:21:47,832 Occupied! 1895 01:21:47,833 --> 01:21:50,541 [Eric McCormack] And he got to do all of those things. 1896 01:21:50,542 --> 01:21:53,040 - [all] Hear, hear! - [glasses clinking] 1897 01:21:53,041 --> 01:21:55,666 [Eric McCormack] It was almost like a victory lap. 1898 01:21:55,667 --> 01:21:58,915 [soft music playing] 1899 01:21:58,916 --> 01:22:00,936 I don't want to have to prove 1900 01:22:00,937 --> 01:22:02,958 that I'm a good actor anymore. 1901 01:22:04,166 --> 01:22:06,478 I started writing a novel. 1902 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,790 [uplifting music playing] 1903 01:22:08,791 --> 01:22:12,665 Right now, I would rather write fiction than act. 1904 01:22:12,666 --> 01:22:16,541 [Alan Alda] Gene was an extremely talented person 1905 01:22:16,542 --> 01:22:19,124 in many areas. 1906 01:22:19,125 --> 01:22:22,208 He was a very, very good painter, 1907 01:22:22,209 --> 01:22:24,499 mainly watercolors, 1908 01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:27,270 and he studied hard, he took lessons, 1909 01:22:27,271 --> 01:22:30,041 he kept trying to get better and better. 1910 01:22:36,375 --> 01:22:38,999 [audience laughter] 1911 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:40,415 Will you just shut your mouth? 1912 01:22:40,416 --> 01:22:42,874 - I'm having a heart attack. - Oh, nonsense! 1913 01:22:42,875 --> 01:22:46,124 [Carol Kane] I got to do some plays with Gene 1914 01:22:46,125 --> 01:22:49,375 at the Westport Playhouse, and that was fun, 1915 01:22:49,376 --> 01:22:52,540 fun to be on stage with him. 1916 01:22:52,541 --> 01:22:56,583 Both Gene and I come from a background of theater, 1917 01:22:56,584 --> 01:22:59,415 and he was a very creative guy 1918 01:22:59,416 --> 01:23:03,458 and a big appreciator of other people's creativity. 1919 01:23:03,459 --> 01:23:06,083 [audience applause] 1920 01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:09,665 [melancholic music playing] 1921 01:23:09,666 --> 01:23:12,416 [Karen Wilder] The first signs something was wrong 1922 01:23:12,417 --> 01:23:15,457 were when I noticed Gene would forget things 1923 01:23:15,458 --> 01:23:20,833 that were really always easy for him to remember. 1924 01:23:20,834 --> 01:23:27,333 But when-when we did the one in-in jail... 1925 01:23:27,334 --> 01:23:29,332 [moderator] Stir Crazy. 1926 01:23:29,333 --> 01:23:32,957 Yeah. It was Stir Crazy, wasn't it? 1927 01:23:32,958 --> 01:23:34,936 [Karen Wilder] He didn't remember the name 1928 01:23:34,937 --> 01:23:36,916 of the movie Young Frankenstein. 1929 01:23:38,541 --> 01:23:42,020 He would've never, ever forgot that, 1930 01:23:42,021 --> 01:23:45,572 because that was his favorite movie. 1931 01:23:45,573 --> 01:23:49,125 He then started to forget many things, 1932 01:23:49,126 --> 01:23:51,541 and I asked him if he'd noticed 1933 01:23:51,542 --> 01:23:54,728 and if he'd go for an evaluation, 1934 01:23:54,729 --> 01:23:57,915 and he said, "If it gets worse." 1935 01:23:57,916 --> 01:24:00,291 A lot of people have mild cognitive impairment 1936 01:24:00,292 --> 01:24:02,165 and it doesn't progress, 1937 01:24:02,166 --> 01:24:06,645 and I suppose I hoped that was what it was. 1938 01:24:06,646 --> 01:24:11,125 I found a doctor who did the comprehensive test 1939 01:24:11,126 --> 01:24:14,999 for cognitive impairment in Connecticut. 1940 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,916 Gene was amazed that he couldn't draw a clock 1941 01:24:17,917 --> 01:24:20,728 and make it 10:30. 1942 01:24:20,729 --> 01:24:23,541 And he couldn't do it. 1943 01:24:23,542 --> 01:24:25,290 He wasn't upset, 1944 01:24:25,291 --> 01:24:27,958 he just couldn't figure out why. 1945 01:24:29,916 --> 01:24:33,416 But I knew then that something was very wrong. 1946 01:24:33,417 --> 01:24:36,124 [pensive music playing] 1947 01:24:36,125 --> 01:24:40,103 Our friend suggested we go see Dr. Michael Rafii 1948 01:24:40,104 --> 01:24:43,551 in San Diego, where we've spent the winters. 1949 01:24:43,552 --> 01:24:47,000 {\an8}I first met Gene in January of 2014, 1950 01:24:47,001 --> 01:24:49,125 {\an8}where he was 80 years old. 1951 01:24:50,750 --> 01:24:53,666 Based on the history, the examination, 1952 01:24:53,667 --> 01:24:56,749 memory testing, MRI of the brain, 1953 01:24:56,750 --> 01:24:59,166 as well as a very specialized kind of scan 1954 01:24:59,167 --> 01:25:01,415 called an amyloid PET scan, 1955 01:25:01,416 --> 01:25:05,416 was confirmatory for his diagnosis. 1956 01:25:05,417 --> 01:25:07,375 Alzheimer's disease dementia. 1957 01:25:08,791 --> 01:25:10,583 [Karen Wilder] I said, "Oh, no." 1958 01:25:10,584 --> 01:25:12,791 And Gene said, "Oh, no." 1959 01:25:15,083 --> 01:25:17,874 [melancholic music playing] 1960 01:25:17,875 --> 01:25:23,332 He never really accepted that he had Alzheimer's, 1961 01:25:23,333 --> 01:25:26,666 and maybe by the time we found out that's what it was, 1962 01:25:26,667 --> 01:25:31,333 his hippocampus didn't let him remember. 1963 01:25:31,334 --> 01:25:35,208 So I'm not sure that he ever knew. 1964 01:25:37,208 --> 01:25:41,750 When I'd see him slip away further from me, 1965 01:25:41,751 --> 01:25:43,937 I was sick to my stomach, 1966 01:25:43,938 --> 01:25:46,124 but I had to keep smiling 1967 01:25:46,125 --> 01:25:48,833 and tell him that everything was okay. 1968 01:25:48,834 --> 01:25:51,541 That was the hardest part for me. 1969 01:25:52,875 --> 01:25:54,665 Gene certainly had memory loss 1970 01:25:54,666 --> 01:25:57,374 that progressively worsened over time 1971 01:25:57,375 --> 01:26:00,083 and also included some other thinking skills 1972 01:26:00,084 --> 01:26:02,083 that were affected, including language. 1973 01:26:02,084 --> 01:26:03,624 [cell phone rings] 1974 01:26:03,625 --> 01:26:04,999 [Mel Brooks] I called him a lot, 1975 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,625 thinking maybe if I gave him enough references, 1976 01:26:07,626 --> 01:26:09,583 I could get him out of it. 1977 01:26:09,584 --> 01:26:12,082 Insanity, in my part. 1978 01:26:12,083 --> 01:26:15,936 He was in the throes of that terrible disease. 1979 01:26:15,937 --> 01:26:20,030 We could never talk too long after he got it. 1980 01:26:20,031 --> 01:26:24,125 It was so sad, it made me cry a lot, you know. 1981 01:26:24,126 --> 01:26:27,290 We still went out to dinner, 1982 01:26:27,291 --> 01:26:30,083 and he made it to his nephew's wedding. 1983 01:26:30,084 --> 01:26:31,645 [guests clap, sing] 1984 01:26:31,646 --> 01:26:33,135 He could hardly walk. 1985 01:26:33,136 --> 01:26:34,624 He danced down the aisle 1986 01:26:34,625 --> 01:26:36,208 and made it through the wedding. 1987 01:26:36,209 --> 01:26:38,250 [guests clap, sing] 1988 01:26:39,791 --> 01:26:41,791 [Harry Connick, Jr.] He was always in our prayers, 1989 01:26:41,792 --> 01:26:43,457 and it's a sad thing to see somebody 1990 01:26:43,458 --> 01:26:46,083 that you love so much, you know, suffer like that. 1991 01:26:46,084 --> 01:26:47,457 To Karen and anybody, you know, 1992 01:26:47,458 --> 01:26:50,186 who was involved with him intimately, 1993 01:26:50,187 --> 01:26:52,915 it's hard... it's hard to see that. 1994 01:26:52,916 --> 01:26:54,708 [Karen Wilder] People think Alzheimer's is 1995 01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:55,915 only a memory disease, 1996 01:26:55,916 --> 01:26:59,665 but what attacks your brain attacks your body. 1997 01:26:59,666 --> 01:27:03,416 Couldn't put on his shoes, couldn't tie his tie. 1998 01:27:03,417 --> 01:27:05,374 One time, he fell, 1999 01:27:05,375 --> 01:27:07,499 and there were three of us, 2000 01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:09,624 and we couldn't get him up on the bed. 2001 01:27:09,625 --> 01:27:11,749 And finally, we ended up laughing. 2002 01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:13,791 We have pictures of all of us laughing. 2003 01:27:13,792 --> 01:27:16,583 Took us couple of hours. 2004 01:27:19,250 --> 01:27:21,333 He was dying, and Gene looked at me and says, 2005 01:27:21,334 --> 01:27:23,541 "Is that what's happening?" 2006 01:27:24,416 --> 01:27:26,728 "Yeah," I said. "Yes." 2007 01:27:26,729 --> 01:27:28,905 [somber music playing] 2008 01:27:28,906 --> 01:27:31,082 He hadn't walked alone, 2009 01:27:31,083 --> 01:27:35,583 and it was just a few days before he died, 2010 01:27:35,584 --> 01:27:36,540 and I looked up, 2011 01:27:36,541 --> 01:27:40,083 and he was walking across the kitchen. 2012 01:27:40,084 --> 01:27:41,165 [laughs] 2013 01:27:41,166 --> 01:27:45,583 And... and then he said, "I want to go swimming." 2014 01:27:48,500 --> 01:27:50,583 He dove into the pool like he used to. 2015 01:27:50,584 --> 01:27:53,333 I saw his little tush in the air, 2016 01:27:53,334 --> 01:27:55,790 and I was awestruck. 2017 01:27:55,791 --> 01:27:58,665 And he took two strokes, he stood up, 2018 01:27:58,666 --> 01:28:01,540 shook his head the way he always did 2019 01:28:01,541 --> 01:28:03,500 to get the water out of his ear, and said, 2020 01:28:03,501 --> 01:28:05,250 "That's good." 2021 01:28:06,375 --> 01:28:07,415 Went back to bed, 2022 01:28:07,416 --> 01:28:09,583 and I think he just wanted to get in the pool 2023 01:28:09,584 --> 01:28:12,124 one more time. 2024 01:28:12,125 --> 01:28:15,457 We always had music playing in the house. 2025 01:28:15,458 --> 01:28:18,374 We used to listen to Ella Fitzgerald. 2026 01:28:18,375 --> 01:28:20,707 The music was playing in the background. 2027 01:28:20,708 --> 01:28:23,040 ["Somewhere Over the Rainbow" music playing] 2028 01:28:23,041 --> 01:28:27,583 [Ella Fitzgerald] ♪ Somewhere over the rainbow ♪ 2029 01:28:27,584 --> 01:28:29,375 [Karen Wilder] Ella Fitzgerald was singing 2030 01:28:29,376 --> 01:28:31,082 "Somewhere Over the Rainbow." 2031 01:28:31,083 --> 01:28:32,500 [Ella Fitzgerald] ♪ Way up high ♪ 2032 01:28:32,501 --> 01:28:34,332 I was lying next to him, 2033 01:28:34,333 --> 01:28:37,208 and he sat up in bed and he said... 2034 01:28:38,208 --> 01:28:41,582 "I trust you." 2035 01:28:41,583 --> 01:28:45,165 Then he said, "I love you." 2036 01:28:45,166 --> 01:28:47,750 ["Somewhere Over the Rainbow" music playing] 2037 01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:52,083 That's the last thing he said. 2038 01:28:56,666 --> 01:28:58,166 {\an8}[James Corden] There was some really sad news 2039 01:28:58,167 --> 01:28:59,957 {\an8}about the passing of Gene Wilder. 2040 01:28:59,958 --> 01:29:02,457 {\an8}We're learning more about the death of Gene Wilder. 2041 01:29:02,458 --> 01:29:05,666 {\an8}One of the most legendary comedic talents of our time... 2042 01:29:05,667 --> 01:29:08,875 {\an8}...has died due to complications from Alzheimer's disease. 2043 01:29:08,876 --> 01:29:12,165 The reactions pouring in from coast to coast. 2044 01:29:12,166 --> 01:29:17,186 [Mel Brooks] I was inconsolable for a couple of weeks. 2045 01:29:17,187 --> 01:29:22,208 When he lived his life, he lived it loud and eloquently. 2046 01:29:22,209 --> 01:29:25,541 He was an outstanding actor, 2047 01:29:25,542 --> 01:29:28,875 and also, an outstanding person. 2048 01:29:28,876 --> 01:29:31,208 You are my best friend! 2049 01:29:31,209 --> 01:29:33,540 [tender music playing] 2050 01:29:33,541 --> 01:29:37,125 [Ben Mankiewicz] I believe Leo Bloom exists. 2051 01:29:37,126 --> 01:29:40,415 I believe the Waco Kid exists. 2052 01:29:40,416 --> 01:29:43,125 I believe Dr. Frankenstein exists. 2053 01:29:43,126 --> 01:29:44,624 That's insane. 2054 01:29:44,625 --> 01:29:48,166 Gene makes you think that that guy is out there, 2055 01:29:48,167 --> 01:29:50,499 trying his hardest, 2056 01:29:50,500 --> 01:29:52,290 despite all these obstacles, 2057 01:29:52,291 --> 01:29:54,750 to navigate this impossible world. 2058 01:29:54,751 --> 01:29:57,395 He embodied these characters, 2059 01:29:57,396 --> 01:30:00,041 and we felt their humanity. 2060 01:30:03,958 --> 01:30:06,707 This is a wonderful man. 2061 01:30:06,708 --> 01:30:09,457 He made me what I am today. 2062 01:30:09,458 --> 01:30:12,666 [Mel Brooks] I miss his enjoying my humor. 2063 01:30:12,667 --> 01:30:15,249 I could make him laugh 2064 01:30:15,250 --> 01:30:17,291 where he would sometimes grab his belly, 2065 01:30:17,292 --> 01:30:18,208 hit the ground, 2066 01:30:18,209 --> 01:30:21,499 and roll around on the ground and laugh. 2067 01:30:21,500 --> 01:30:24,791 That's the real payment in being a comic. 2068 01:30:24,792 --> 01:30:28,250 And, boy, he paid, he was delicious. 2069 01:30:28,251 --> 01:30:30,540 [pensive music playing] 2070 01:30:30,541 --> 01:30:33,625 [Gene Wilder] Acting seems so much easier than life, 2071 01:30:33,626 --> 01:30:35,665 and when I'm taking my bow, 2072 01:30:35,666 --> 01:30:38,665 I have the belief that I've earned my feeling of grace, 2073 01:30:38,666 --> 01:30:43,291 as if God were saying, "You did something worthwhile." 2074 01:30:43,292 --> 01:30:45,875 [soft music playing] 2075 01:30:50,875 --> 01:30:53,375 [exuberant music playing] 2076 01:31:39,125 --> 01:31:41,625 [jaunty music playing] 2077 01:32:19,250 --> 01:32:21,750 [exuberant music playing] 157259

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