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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,775 BIRDS SQUAWK 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,895 LINDA HAM: OK, good morning and welcome to the first STS-107 MMT. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,615 Great launch yesterday 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,335 and I'm sure everyone's real excited about getting on orbit here 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,695 and finally getting under way with this science mission. 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,175 We just want to report everybody's all smiles here. That's good. 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,655 The second day, I drive into work kind of euphoric 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,135 because another launch, another successful launch. 9 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,535 You know the flight director's office 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,335 in the Mission Control Center in Houston is working with them. 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,735 They're... Everything's good. 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,255 This is the first mission in a while 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,975 that is completely dedicated to science. 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,535 It's the first one in several years. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,015 It's a 16-day flight with a dual shift. 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,575 We have a crew of seven. 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,895 Four will be up on one shift and three will be up on the other shift 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,615 so that we can work 24 hours a clay. 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,135 I walked into the analysis lab 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,495 to start reviewing film from the launch. 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,455 I love film analysis, I love sitting in there doing that work. 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:14,455 In 2003, my team was in charge of the neighbourhood of 130 cameras. 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,895 There's cameras on the mobile launcher, 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,575 there's cameras on the launchpad, 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,295 there's layers of cameras to give you different distances. 26 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:25,095 You want your imagery to be able to show you 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,015 what is going on on the exterior of the vehicle. 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,495 So, we started the film at the beginning. 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,935 We're watching this lift-off, you see the roll manoeuvres, 30 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:39,535 beautiful blue sky. 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,095 We do the normal review 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,375 and we start pointing out all the things that we normally see. 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,495 You use the shadows from the projector behind you, 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,095 so you see these fingers that, you know, it's like shadow puppets. 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,015 And we got to 81 seconds 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,615 and then we see this object come off 37 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,415 of the external tank area. 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,895 It moved down and then striked the vehicle, 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,495 then exploded into a white cloud. 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,735 INTERVIEWER: What was your reaction? Ah... 41 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,255 Inside your head? 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,055 My reaction was, "Oh, shit." 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,815 ARCHIVE: The shuttle is the most complicated 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,175 space machine ever built. 45 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,455 The world's greatest electric flying machine. 46 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,815 It has been a bad clay for NASA. 47 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,015 A sense of tragedy in the space program me 48 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,215 and as word spreads across the nation... 49 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,015 There are no simple and easy answers. 50 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,015 We are doing everything we possibly can 51 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,975 to find out what caused this accident. 52 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,935 All the warning signs were there. 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,975 This didn't have to happen. 54 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,695 We let it happen. 55 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,415 # Everybody was kung-fu fighting 56 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,295 # Those kids were fast as lightning 57 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,175 # In fact, it was a little bit frightening... # 58 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,535 Columbia, Houston. 59 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,695 A very good morning to the Red team. 60 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,135 To Rick, Laurel, KC and llan. 61 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,215 That music was Kung-Fu Fighting, 62 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,855 selected especially for you by your dedicated training team. 63 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,695 Is it turned on? 64 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,695 Good morning to all and a special good morning to my wife Rona, 65 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,055 the love of my life. 66 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:26,975 I remember myself going to sleep and imagining 67 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,735 where he is right now. 68 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,695 "I wonder where he is right now? He's somewhere over us. 69 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,735 "Maybe going around in circles, around the Earth." 70 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:46,295 It's surreal. 71 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,375 These seven people who are, you know, living in space. 72 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:58,135 Eating and working and going to the bathroom and... 73 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,655 ...and seeing Earth from space. 74 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,855 MAN: Wow. 75 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,415 RICK HUSBAND: Well, actually, things are going really well 76 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,055 and things have been working well. 77 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,935 Columbia is in great shape 78 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,575 and working absolutely perfectly. 79 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,175 We had a great ride to orbit. 80 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,655 After the launch, we came home for the next 16 days 81 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,815 we knew that the crew was going to be in space. 82 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,775 By that point, I mean, I turned on NASA TV here 83 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,495 and just started watching the mission. 84 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,295 Next up for the Blue shift was a blood draw experiment. 85 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,295 Here, Laurel is telling Mike this isn't going to hurt her a bit. 86 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,495 I think God has put a desire of pioneering in us 87 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,175 and exploring, and just to see someone to be able to follow through 88 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,655 with that, and to that level, is so admirable. 89 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,455 But more than anything, I just loved listening to Rick's voice. 90 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,095 I loved listening to him talk back and forth with Mission Control. 91 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,495 Looking at that film, 92 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,295 we were all discussing, "How big are we talking about a problem? 93 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,175 "How much damage are we talking about?" 94 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,295 Worst case would have been damage all the way down 95 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,855 to the skin of the vehicle. 96 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,975 That would have given us a problem during the landing. 97 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,375 And what does that, in human terms, what does that really mean? 98 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,535 Well, that probably would have been loss of vehicle and loss of crew. 99 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,695 So, I went to see Wayne, my boss. 100 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,135 Based on my 20-plus years of experience, 101 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,415 I can tell you every shuttle flight that flew had issues. 102 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,535 People came to me as a flight director or as manager every clay. 103 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,495 In this case, Bob Page knocked on my door, 104 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,935 came into my office and said... 105 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,415 "We've got a problem. 106 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,095 "This is the largest strike of a vehicle that we have ever seen." 107 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,575 He's a little bit of a high-energy guy, 108 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,135 so it wasn't unusual, I didn't think. 109 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,335 But he had a little video clip that he showed me. 110 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,175 It's really hard to tell if anything bad had happened. 111 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,975 I mean, this is insulating foam. 112 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,175 It's lightweight. 113 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,735 So, the orange thing is the external tank. 114 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,015 It's carrying cryogenically cold liquid oxygen 115 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,855 and hydrogen and it's going to sit out on the launchpad 116 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,255 in the sunshine. 117 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,455 You don't want that to start boiling off. 118 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,495 So, over the outside of the tank 119 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,855 there's this spray-on insulating foam. 120 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,535 Similar to what you have if you have a leak 121 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,055 and you get the stuff from the hardware store 122 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,335 and you spray it around a windowsill. 123 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,135 Cheap, very effective. 124 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,295 But it's got this property that, 125 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,935 as you go through supersonic flight in the atmosphere, 126 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,015 bits of it come off. 127 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,095 INTERVIEWER: So, foam falling off during launch 128 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,815 was something that had happened before? 129 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,175 Yes, it happened all the time. 130 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,335 Maybe not in these big chunks, 131 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,575 but it did happen all the time. 132 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,775 The question is, "How bad of shape is the orbiter in?" 133 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,335 Ancl Bob said, 134 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,615 "I really wish there was some way to get more information." 135 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,095 I knew this mission passed over places 136 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,215 where there were some high-altitude telescopes. 137 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,455 These are looking at stars, so if you want to look at the orbiter, 138 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,215 you could probably get the entire orbiter fit in the field of view 139 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,335 and have extremely good resolution. 140 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,015 Ancl I said, "Well, I don't really know much about that, Bob. 141 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,815 "We'll have to check." 142 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,255 And so, I got the assurance from Wayne 143 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,775 that he would make some calls and he would see what could be done, 144 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,495 and things were put into motion. 145 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,295 Did the crew know at this point? 146 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,775 No. 147 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,215 You don't want to alarm the crew that early. 148 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,935 They had just gotten onto orbit. 149 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,775 They have a job to do. 150 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,135 When we have the complete story, 151 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,375 then that's when we pass it on to them. 152 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,695 STATIC CRACKLES Morn? 153 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,575 Mom? 154 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,615 Miss you. 155 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,855 Bye-bye! 156 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:47,015 We talked using the early televideo conferencing capability 157 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,615 and super low-tech bandwidth. 158 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,735 It's ratty com but it's a very special time. 159 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,935 It was a huge relief being able to... 160 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,135 ...see her again. 161 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,095 But I really couldn't comprehend that she was in space. 162 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,335 Like, it didn't make sense to me at all. 163 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,775 HE GIGGLES 164 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:56,215 It felt like counting down to Christmas, 165 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,055 waiting for her to get back. 166 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,815 In the NASA world, people don't talk in terms of, 167 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,095 "|t's life or death". 168 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,095 You use the terms, "Threat to the vehicle and crew," 169 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,895 or, "Risk to the vehicle and crew". 170 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:32,015 It might have more power and more punch if we talk life and death. 171 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,575 But we don't. 172 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,095 There's an old saying in the space business, 173 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,375 "The first story's never right," right? 174 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,415 So, you get the story, something happened. 175 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,695 It could be the end of the world, it could be nothing. 176 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,535 So, we were all concerned. 177 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:53,175 It wasn't like we were going to do anything immediately 178 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,375 other than get the data and we will hand it over to the engineers 179 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,695 that are standing ready to do those sort of analysis. 180 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,135 The second day of the mission was just an ordinary day for me. 181 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,215 I was ready to go home about five o'clock on a Friday evening. 182 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,975 PHONE RINGS 183 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,375 And then, I got a call from my manager. 184 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:24,615 She said, "Rodney, do you know that 185 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,815 "a large piece of foam hit the left wing?" 186 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,975 And I think I gasp and I said, "Ooh" or "Ahh". I made some exclamation. 187 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,055 "No, I did not hear that." 188 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,335 And she said, "They have just released a video." 189 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,735 Every time I watched the video, 190 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,775 I'm looking at portions of it or a sector of it, 191 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,575 just to see if I can glean one more piece of detail out of it. 192 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,175 And the question I had, 193 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,775 "What is that cloud? That expanding white stuff?" 194 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,655 One can't help but ask, "ls that part of the wing coming apart?" 195 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,535 ROCK MUSIC PLAYS 196 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,535 Columbia, Houston. 197 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,855 Good morning to the Red team. 198 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,335 I was thinking about this foam strike all weekend. 199 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,735 And I thought, "Can't we get the astronauts to look through 200 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,135 "this side hatch window?" 201 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,295 There's a little window right here, this little dark circle. 202 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,375 Could they have looked back to this area in here 203 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,175 to see if there's any damage - debris, residue, anything? 204 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,935 What I was expecting is you first look with your eyes. 205 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,135 just look. 206 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,535 And then, if they'd seen something unusual, 207 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:08,295 they would have probably used binoculars. 208 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,095 They have binoculars on board, 209 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,655 and they have telephoto lenses and cameras. 210 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:15,935 They would have probably photo documented this whole thing 211 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,695 and sent it down to the ground. 212 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,575 Once the crew has reported something, 213 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,975 the ground responds, must respond. 214 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,175 It was a very easy thing to do 215 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,255 and the crew would have done it happily. 216 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,735 So, let's see. Rodney sent me an email. 217 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,455 "We know that the Remote Manipulator System arm and cameras 218 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,735 "are not available, but what about the left side hatch window?" 219 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,535 He's questioning whether there's been any action 220 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,815 to ask the crew to look for damage. 221 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,895 LAUREL CLARK: OK, well, good morning or good evening, 222 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,375 as the case goes for all you guys 223 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,375 working around the clock there in Houston. 224 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,895 PAUL SHACK: You have to understand, NASA works on procedures. 225 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,535 We have a mission plan. 226 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,415 Red shift are just finishing up their day. 227 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,855 Any deviation needs to be evaluated and assessed 228 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,695 on how it will impact everything. 229 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,975 MISSION CONTROL: Laurel, just to be advised, 230 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,735 you have about two minutes of video left. 231 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,255 To deviate from the processes 232 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,495 and the procedures you'd need to have a reason. 233 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,055 And the reason needs data. 234 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,975 It's not just, "I have a bad feeling about this." 235 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,175 And I got no reply to my email. 236 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,175 My request was never answered. 237 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,495 Columbia, this is CNN, how do you read me? 238 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,135 Hey, CNN, we've got you loud and clear. 239 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,375 Stand by and we'll have you on the telly here very shortly. 240 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,575 Say hello to the crew of the space shuttle Columbia, 241 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,935 now travelling above the Pacific at 17,300 miles an hour. 242 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:01,055 150 miles above us. 243 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,495 Waving to us. Let's give you an idea of who's who... 244 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,255 O'BRIEN, VOICE OVER: I remember interviewing the crew in space. 245 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,055 ...Rick Husband, the commander, second mission. Laurel Clark... 246 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,415 Prepping for that interview, 247 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,655 I thought about the foam strike and how to handle it. 248 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,655 But on launch day, 249 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,895 when I saw that footage, 250 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,335 I wasn't sure what to think about it. 251 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,015 I'm not a rocket scientist. 252 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,455 So, I called to somebody who I know very well at NASA. 253 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,175 I said, "Help me understand how worried I should be for this." 254 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,335 And he said, "Ah, it's foam, it's very light material. 255 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,215 "Probably hasn't caused any damage." 256 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,015 INTERVIEWER: So, they're telling you it's nothing to worry about. 257 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,095 But did you still have a little concern? I was... 258 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,775 It nagged me the whole mission. 259 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,575 Colonel Ramon. I'm curious, was the launch what you expected? 260 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,615 I was thinking about the foam. 261 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,215 I just didn't know how to, in a five-minute interview, set that up. 262 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,175 Are all these experiments working? 263 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,735 They couldn't all be working as planned. 264 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,135 Well, things are going very smoothly. 265 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,695 As expected, there's some minor glitches. 266 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,415 I had gone through this process of convincing myself 267 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,335 that it was going to be OK. 268 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:27,775 All right, we're going to have to leave it at that. 269 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,415 Goodness, look at that little chalice going by there! 270 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,255 But I had this sinking feeling. 271 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,535 I just... I just didn't feel right. 272 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,015 We spent the weekend analysing this film. 273 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,655 We estimated the size of the foam. 274 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,175 16 inches across, 18 inches long. 275 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,775 Suitcase size. 276 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,375 So, it's a big chunk of foam, moving at 750mph. 277 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,815 But in the end, what we did not know 278 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,335 was the condition of the vehicle post-strike. 279 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:17,255 How much thermal protection system would be left? 280 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,735 Returning from space, 281 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:29,015 a craft that is going 17,500 miles an hour heats up gases, 282 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,615 and very hot gases become something we call plasma. 283 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,415 The shuttle is enveloped in this inferno and it's kind of beautiful. 284 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,935 But, obviously, you want to be protected from it. 285 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,095 Well, they came to the conclusion that the best way to deal with that 286 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:52,375 was to arrange a system of tiles to cover the shuttle. 287 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,535 All of the black here shown is all tiles. 288 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,615 And these tiles are made of a silica fibre material, 289 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,455 which is very heat resistant. 290 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,735 I can show you. 291 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,855 This is a test tile. 292 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,335 There are about 31,000 of them altogether. 293 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,015 And we hope those tiles will stay on 294 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,335 when the orbiter comes back into the atmosphere, 295 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,855 because otherwise the craft itself could be damaged. 296 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,495 Well, if you don't have any tiles on the bottom, 297 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,855 the vehicle's going to burn up. 298 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,495 If you have a lot of tiles on the bottom, the vehicle won't burn up. 299 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,935 REPORTER: But if something should happen to the tile, 300 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,775 is there anything at all that you can do? 301 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,375 During the development of the space shuttle, in the 1970s, 302 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,655 there was quite an effort to develop a way to repair 303 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,735 damaged tiles on orbit. 304 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,335 It was a huge effort 305 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:44,655 and it was an utter failure. 306 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,855 They could not develop anything. 307 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,135 Ancl that was one of the "accepted risks" of flying in space. 308 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:02,495 I knew the one tool we had was changing the way entry is done. 309 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,095 You can change the angle of attack coming in 310 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:11,455 so you can lessen the heat in certain areas. 311 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,495 But you know the calendar is ticking down. 312 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,135 LINDA HAM: OK. Good morning. We're ready for roll. 313 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,015 The biggest misimpression I see in movies and whatnot 314 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,335 is that there's a few guys sitting around a table making decisions. 315 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:40,895 It's not like that. 316 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,215 In a meeting, there's 20, 30 people in the room. 317 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,775 There's people joining from Kennedy, 318 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,295 there's people from Huntington Beach, California, 319 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,695 a representative from engineering, a representative from the crew. 320 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:03,255 The chairman of the meeting was Linda Ham. 321 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,975 She basically ran this mission. 322 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,535 She was effectively 323 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,775 the deputy to Ron Dittemore, 324 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,175 the program manager in those clays. 325 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,815 Linda has excellent judgment, 326 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,495 can grasp complicated problems very quickly. 327 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,495 She was the first woman to be certified as a flight director. 328 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:49,575 Linda was recalling STS-112, a flight, two flights before. 329 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,615 MISSION CONTROL: We have go for main engine start. 330 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,175 Two, one, we've got booster ignition, 331 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,655 and lift-off of the space shuttle Atlantis. 332 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,855 STS-112 had... 333 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,215 ...a very similar piece of foam come off 334 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,055 from almost the same location. 335 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,895 But in that case, 336 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,255 the foam hit a solid rocket booster 337 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,735 and put a dent in it. 338 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,815 The foam travelled, travelled down. 339 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,615 It struck right here. 340 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,615 These three lines. 341 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:25,935 But, of course, solid rocket boosters disconnect. 342 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,135 They splash down in the ocean. 343 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,055 It didn't hit the orbiter, 344 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,335 so it was no effect to the flight. 345 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:35,335 The management team, they analysed it 346 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:39,415 and came up with the conclusion that no safety of flight issue existed. 347 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,775 MISSION CONTROL: Welcome back to Earth, Atlantis. 348 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,375 And congratulations on a truly spectacular mission. 349 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,575 But we dodged the bullet on that one. 350 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,455 The difference with Columbia is that the foam hit the orbiter, 351 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,775 but you can't see where on the wing it hit 352 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,535 and how big the damage to the orbiter may be. 353 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,255 A special team was forming and I was told that I would be on it. 354 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:38,015 The mission management wanted to know how bad it is. 355 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,895 No damage, minimal damage, or grave damage? 356 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,615 In that room, on the first meeting, 357 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,215 there were probably 12 to 15 people. 358 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,615 They were the best experts in different fields. 359 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,615 But all we knew was 360 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,695 this was foam and it hit the left wing. 361 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,655 But WHERE on the left wing, we did not know. 362 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,455 This is why we naturally came to the conclusion, 363 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,895 we cannot initiate a credible analysis 364 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,335 until we know damage location and extent of damage. 365 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,815 There's nothing credible we can initiate. 366 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,175 We must have another piece of data, another image. 367 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,975 We knew that performing a spacewalk would have been very dangerous. 368 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,455 Spacewalks are always highly choreographed. 369 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,135 They always go to places where they have handrails, 370 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,175 where they've had a chance to practise. 371 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,495 In this case, people would have been just going out there 372 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,215 and hanging a metal ladder off the side of the vehicle 373 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,975 where it's going to bang around, while somebody climbs down there 374 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,735 to see if there's something there to see. 375 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,135 You're talking about doing something that very well could have caused 376 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,575 damage to an orbiter that might be undamaged. 377 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,615 I knew that the military satellites at that time were extremely good. 378 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,935 There were stories like they could read licence plates from space. 379 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,575 We have quite a fleet of spy satellites out there 380 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,815 and most are trying to, at that time, 381 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,215 chase down terrorists in Afghanistan or Iraq or whatever. 382 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,535 Aiming it at the shuttle was a possibility. 383 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,575 That's why the whole group thought it was a good idea. 384 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,695 "Let's ask for military assets." 385 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,895 "The meeting participants all agreed 386 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,895 "we will always have big uncertainties 387 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,935 "until we get definitive, better, 388 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,575 "clearer photos of the wing and body underside." 389 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,775 So in bold face, I put, 390 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,175 "Can we petition (beg) for outside agency assistance?" 391 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,655 INTERVIEWER: But even with the satellite images, 392 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,935 what were you hoping would be achieved? 393 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,815 Once you have this proof, 394 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,535 if there were damage, 395 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,335 then you have experts just flowing in. 396 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:08,135 Next thing, you tell the crew. 397 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,215 By informing the crew, they're now part of the solution. 398 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,455 They had tools. They had cutting instruments. 399 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,575 You take the available materials, 400 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,135 take the Spacehab apart. 401 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,655 You improvise. 402 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,095 You stuff the hole, 403 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,415 if there was a hole, 404 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,495 with materials that will delay peak heating. 405 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,455 Then you can you talk about altering the entry trajectory. 406 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,575 Or if this had been publicised, 407 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,215 the Russians might have sent up an empty Soyuz. 408 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,375 We did the Apollo 13 scenario. 409 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,655 We would have tried something. 410 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,375 But first, you need the images. 411 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,815 Um... 412 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:54,015 I thought Rodney was asking for something that was 413 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,255 out of my ability to obtain. 414 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,495 So, I went to my boss. 415 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,615 I said, "Some engineers want photographs." 416 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,415 You know, there's uncertainty. 417 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,895 I gave her the facts and she just said, 418 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,895 "Well, they're still doing their analysis. 419 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,335 "When they come back with their answer, 420 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,895 "we'll see what it is, and then we'll ask." 421 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,655 So, she didn't say, "No." 422 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,375 What she said was, "Let's get the analysis 423 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,615 "and then, make a further decision if necessary." 424 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:36,335 # ..Means no worries 425 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:39,095 # For the rest of your days 426 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,895 # It's our problem-free 427 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,135 # Philosophy 428 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,975 # Hakuna matata... # 429 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,775 MISSION CONTROL: Good morning, Blue. 430 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,175 That was Hakuna Matata, by the Baha Men, going out to Mike. 431 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,575 And it was picked especially for Dad by the kids. 432 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,415 MIKE ANDERSON: Good morning, Houston. What a wonderful song. 433 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,015 And I'd really like to thank my kids for that one, 434 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,695 both Sydney and Kaycee. 435 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,455 Ancl it's a really good clay to wake up today and nothing to worry about, 436 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,695 and Blue shift is ready to start another clay of science on orbit. 437 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,735 You know, as a kid, your imagination just like, runs wild. 438 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,095 I'm like, "Do they just float and sleep?" Or, you know, 439 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,455 "Does he get to go out in actual space? 440 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,935 "Did he see aliens?" 441 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,295 Mostly I just thought like he was an explorer. 442 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,295 Kind of like, I don't know, like a space Indiana Jones. 443 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,815 You know, we make it a point to get out and go to schools 444 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,295 and talk to kids all the time. 445 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,455 Ancl when I do that, I really try to let them 446 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,815 know what it was like for me when I was a kid growing up. 447 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,495 Ancl howl had this dream of one clay becoming an astronaut. 448 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,815 Ancl that really, if you work hard and you're always persistent, 449 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,855 you can really make those dreams come true. 450 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,175 So, I always try to give that 451 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,575 message to the kids when I talk to them. 452 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,095 He wanted to always be involved in something that was 453 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,655 kind of bigger than him, 454 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,615 that contributed to society, 455 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,375 that had a purpose. 456 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,015 It was fun to watch him. He looked like he was enjoying himself. 457 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,815 The crew looked like they were doing what they needed to be doing 458 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,575 and everything was going off really well. 459 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,735 And I didn't know, at that time, 460 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,575 that anything concerning had happened. 461 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,535 There were people that did, though, but I wasn't one of them. 462 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,415 I was in my office in Florida, 463 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,655 and I got a phone call from the head 464 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,175 of what we call "systems integrations." 465 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,055 He's an engineer who I respect very highly. 466 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,815 Ancl he said, "Hey, we really don't have all the information 467 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,415 "we'd like to have on this debris strike. 468 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,935 "Do you know of anybody that's got a way to get better pictures?" 469 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,135 Now I had this engineer as well as Bob, 470 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,855 asking me to see if I can find out some more information. 471 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,935 NASA does not own any military satellites but, at that time, 472 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:04,455 we had a close working relationship with the Patrick Air Force Base. 473 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,335 So, I put in a request with them. 474 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,655 INTERVIEWER: How hard could it be to take a few photographs? 475 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,975 I'm not going to pretend that it's easy. 476 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,175 I do appreciate the preparation that would have to go into it. 477 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,335 One would have to interrupt the mission 478 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,255 to get the right lighting, to make sure you're over... 479 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,415 The right satellite is in position. 480 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,055 Then now, you have an army of people on the ground. 481 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,175 We have to reorient the shuttle 482 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,215 for the proper exposure angles and all that. 483 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,135 And to do that means they may have to terminate 484 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,055 their science experiments. 485 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,695 In a program manager's mind 486 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,375 that's responsible for getting shuttles up there on schedule, 487 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,855 if you interrupt the science mission, 488 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,495 you have the ire of all the people 489 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,735 and the science objectives were now ruined, 490 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,695 and that looks badly on NASA. 491 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,735 I think that weighed on him, too. 492 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,895 WAYNE HALE: A little bit later in the clay, in the afternoon, 493 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,215 I got a call from Linda and she said, 494 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,055 "Hey, I heard that you were trying to get some pictures, 495 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,535 "and I've checked around and nobody has a requirement for us 496 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,375 "to get any more information. The engineers have all they need." 497 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,895 What she was telling me is that none of the managers 498 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,735 was willing to stand up and say, 499 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,095 "We really need to have more information." 500 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,175 Ancl at that time, I took that as, well, she was in Houston. 501 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,775 The engineers that are doing the analysis are there, 502 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,655 she's probably been over. 503 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,735 But she said, "I want you to turn this off 504 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,655 "because we don't need to bother those other people." 505 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,975 "OK-" 506 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,775 INTERVIEWER: How did you feel when she said that? I was mad. 507 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,935 Because I don't like to be overruled. 508 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,615 I'd been trying to act within my authority, 509 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,335 and I'd been countermanded by my boss. 510 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,415 Linda Ham knew that NASA's history with the Department of Defense 511 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,575 in using spy satellites 512 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,095 was a little bit chequered. 513 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,575 There had been a previous mission 514 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,655 where the landing parachute door came off on launch 515 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,815 so the orbiter was flying with a parachute without its door. 516 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,175 NASA made a request to get some kind of imagery. 517 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,535 However, the photos didn't help much. 518 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,375 INTERVIEWER: OK, so, even if you could get photographs 519 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,215 it doesn't mean they'll necessarily show anything? 520 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,535 I think they were a little bit embarrassed in the end about asking. 521 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,655 And NASA never wants to look stupid. 522 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,975 NASA wants to be the agency with the answers. 523 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,095 If you'd have said, 524 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,095 "Linda, two different people need this information, 525 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,535 "their departments are both asking, are you aware?" 526 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,215 That may have changed the course of events. 527 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,455 Could I have argued with her? Maybe. 528 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,935 But did I get the impression that her mind was made up 529 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,615 and, you know, that was the end of that? 530 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,895 That's kind of where I was. Is it not worth it 531 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,415 when there's seven people who could be in a...? 532 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,575 That's easy for you to say in retrospect. 533 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,975 Then, I wasn't really concerned about it. 534 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,335 I was going to be a good soldier. 535 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,015 So, I called Air Force Base and said, "I knowl made this request. 536 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,215 "Turns out we don't need it. 537 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,175 "Forget I asked about it." 538 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,295 I was told that we would not be getting images. 539 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,415 I got angry and confused. 540 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,495 "What does this mean?" 541 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,455 So I emailed Paul Shack. 542 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,375 "Why? Did you do anything about it?" No reply. No reply. 543 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,895 So, I called him and I got him. 544 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,095 He was shouting at me. 545 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,455 You can't call it an argument 546 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,855 because an argument takes two people shouting 547 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,135 and just one was shouting in this case. 548 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,175 I ask him, "Why are you ignoring? 549 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,135 "You didn't reply to my email. Why? I was asking why you didn't respond. 550 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,655 "Now I have you." 551 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,615 Well, I got sarcastic. 552 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,855 I said, "Don't be a Chicken Little." 553 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,935 NARRATOR: Here is Chicken Little. 554 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,375 A little shy on brains, 555 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,415 but a good egg as chickens go. 556 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,695 I knew that story in the American folklore. 557 00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:29,495 Hurry, hurry! The sky is falling! 558 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,735 I've seen the cartoon. He is portrayed as easily frightened. 559 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,215 just like I told you! Hit me on the head! 560 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:38,255 And the lesson is, Chicken Little is not to be trusted. 561 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,175 Chicken Little always gets excited. 562 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,415 Paul Shack treated me as if I were 563 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,375 the well-intentioned-but-silly chicken. 564 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,095 I was very upset and angry 565 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,735 and disappointed with my engineering organisations top to bottom. 566 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,535 There's a ticking clock. 567 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,495 We were losing time. 568 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,295 This is an emaill drafted. 569 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,415 "|n my humble technical opinion, 570 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,255 "this is the wrong, and bordering on irresponsible, answer 571 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,855 "not to request additional imaging help from any outside source. 572 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,335 "Remember the NASA safety posters everywhere around stating, 573 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,095 "'|f it's not safe, say-so'? 574 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,695 "Yes, it's that serious!" 575 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:27,375 I felt the need to draft that email with that strong language, 576 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,975 and the strongest word in there is accusatory, "irresponsible". 577 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,735 But I struggled on sending it or not sending it. 578 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,335 I thought, "The astronauts trust us. 579 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,575 "They're in the mission, we're protecting their lives. 580 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,655 "They want to believe that we're doing the very best for them." 581 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,095 But I would be going against all of my engineering management, 582 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,295 and I was afraid about my future career. 583 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,895 I was married and we had a child, 584 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,975 had a home, had a mortgage. 585 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,615 And I did not send it in the end. 586 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,295 I remember, that Wednesday night when I came home from work, 587 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,655 he showed me the email 588 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,655 that he had not sent. 589 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,935 He was very agitated... 590 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,695 ...very frustrated, 591 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,775 because he wasn't sure what to do. 592 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,095 The thrust was, finish the analysis 593 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,295 even though you have no information 594 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,215 on which to base your analysis. 595 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:42,535 He said, "|t's like being asked 596 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,095 "to analyse a car accident 597 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,735 "that has just happened outside, 598 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,375 "but you're not allowed to look out the window." 599 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,255 The photo denial forced us into a rock and a hard place. 600 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,015 We have to produce an analysis anyway, without a photo. 601 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,295 Now we play volleyball. 602 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,375 And football. 603 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,015 Bicycle kick. 604 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,135 "You guys are doing a fantastic job staying on timeline 605 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,935 "and accomplishing great science. 606 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,295 "There is one item that I would like to make you aware of. 607 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,855 "This item is not even worth mentioning, 608 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,015 "other than wanting to make sure 609 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,015 "that you are not surprised by it in a question from a reporter. 610 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,095 "During ascent, at approximately 80 seconds, 611 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,455 "some debris came loose 612 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,335 "and subsequently impacted the orbiter left wing. 613 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,295 "Experts have reviewed the high-speed photography 614 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,935 "and there is absolutely no concern for entry. That is all for now. 615 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,375 "|t is a pleasure working with you every clay." 616 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,495 INTERVIEWER: How reassuring does that seem to be? 617 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,415 Oh, OK, so they saw something. 618 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,375 They're taking care of it. 619 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,535 This email was... 620 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,815 ...too short, too sweet, too easy. 621 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,255 I really love seeing a team to come together. 622 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,615 Ancl the bigger team who makes this entire mission possible... 623 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,335 ...is the team on the ground 624 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,975 and all the folks who work in Mission Control, all the folks who 625 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,295 work at the different NASA centres. 626 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,335 It's just such a great feeling 627 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,415 for me to see everybody working together as a team like that. 628 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,415 LINDA HAM: OK, good morning and welcome to the MMT. 629 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,135 Friday morning, Rodney's team presented their analysis. 630 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,375 I wasn't presenting the results of our analysis. 631 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,375 The protocol was that a senior engineer would 632 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,375 present on our behalf. 633 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:28,695 We all knew that if the engineers find out that this is bad, 634 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,135 there is nothing we can do. 635 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,695 If the heat shield was lost, that was just the endgame. 636 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,135 RODNEY ROCHA: The presentation showed five scenarios 637 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,335 that we were analysing over the past few days. 638 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,295 Rodney's concern was uncertainty in where the damage was. 639 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,855 The way they compensated for that 640 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,855 was to analyse multiple possible locations. 641 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,135 Instead of analysing this area, 642 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,575 we're going to analyse THIS area. 643 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,215 "|t would cause localised heating, 644 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,135 "but no burn through," 645 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,895 I believe, were the words that they used. 646 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,055 RODNEY ROCHA: When we completed the analysis, 647 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,095 none of the scenarios showed a fatal outcome. 648 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,255 I felt some relief. I thought we were in good shape. I believed him. 649 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,375 I mean, you know, that's what you want to hear. 650 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,135 You don't want to hear, "We're going to lose the vehicle." 651 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,495 What's missing in that is we should have 652 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,015 had, in bold face, at the very beginning, 653 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,295 "These are engineering assumption cases. 654 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,495 "We do not know, without extra data, 655 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,175 "whether these are actual representations of reality." 656 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,935 A "turnaround issue" - what they meant was "some level of repair". 657 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,975 INTERVIEWER: So, when Columbia comes back? 658 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,415 When it comes back, but nothing really bad, that bad. 659 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,375 just local repair. 660 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,295 Patch it up and let's go again. 661 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,575 And that's what was being communicated to Linda Ham? 662 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,015 That everything was OK? Yes. Yes. Yes. 663 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,135 Even though you all sat there and thought it wasn't OK? Yes. 664 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,615 What, you didn't... 665 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,815 You didn't... She was in the room with you. 666 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,575 She was in the room with us. 667 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,735 So, what prevented you from going to talk to her? 668 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,495 The chain-of-command protocol. 669 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,735 You don't approach managers directly. 670 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,975 You're... You know, you're a grown man, 671 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,175 and you're in the room with only 12 people. 672 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,175 I'm a grown man with grown men telling me not to do that. 673 00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,695 There are other grown men 674 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:02,575 with power and authority saying, "Don't do that." 675 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,575 What would have been the repercussions 676 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,175 of talking to her in that room? 677 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,055 I don't know if... 678 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:14,615 I don't know. 679 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,615 My thoughts at the time of... 680 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,055 I feared the worst, but I hoped for the best. 681 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,375 Most people, I think the psychology is, 682 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,815 avoid even thinking about the worst. 683 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,935 You don't want to face that fear that... 684 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,575 That issue that is the worst. 685 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,375 We've got an announcement that we'd like to make. 686 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,375 It is today that we remember 687 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,055 and honour the crews of Apollo 1 and Challenger. 688 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,375 They made the ultimate sacrifice, 689 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,615 giving their lives and service to their country and for all mankind. 690 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,455 Their dedication and devotion to the exploration of space 691 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,655 was an inspiration to each of us, 692 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,815 and still motivates people around the world to achieve great things 693 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,255 in service to others. 694 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,095 As we orbit the Earth, we will join the entire NASA family 695 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,855 for a moment of silence in their memory. 696 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,455 Our thoughts and prayers go to their families, as well. 697 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,615 One day, during the mission, 698 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,335 I worked Mission Control and it was like 2am. 699 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,455 You know, the graveyard shift. 700 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,575 I was reviewing the notes of the mission, 701 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,655 and then, here's this foam issue. 702 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,695 Me and my colleague we were reading that, 703 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:16,495 and I remember saying, "Well, that's unusual." 704 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,615 We actually had this discussion of, 705 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,535 "Hey, you can use a family conference to talk to Laurel 706 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,175 "and find out what they knew." 707 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,455 Ancl you got to remember the hat you're wearing 708 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,975 is your flight surgeon hat, not your family hat. 709 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,215 INTERVIEWER: What did he mean by that in this case? 710 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,655 You found out this information in the context 711 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,535 of not being a family member, 712 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,575 but being a NASA employee on the mission. 713 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,895 It actually would have broken protocol for me 714 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,935 to bring up an issue to a crew member, 715 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,735 even though it's my wife, 716 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,335 without going through the official channels. 717 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,495 And when you spoke to Laurel in the video conference, 718 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,695 did it cross your mind to bring it up then? No. You know why? 719 00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:31,495 Because that conference was for lain and Laurel, 720 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,215 and I was a bystander. 721 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,095 I remember a certain sense of relief. 722 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,855 Like, it's almost over. She's almost back, kind of, yeah. 723 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:06,215 I knew she was going to come back. 724 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,335 I never had a question in my mind. 725 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:45,095 UPBEAT ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYS 726 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,575 LINDA HAM: Columbia, Houston. Good morning, 727 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,935 and we're looking forward to our last clay on orbit with you. 728 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,815 Thanks, Mike, we've all enjoyed the mission down here. 729 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,655 Ancl I think that music woke up the Control Center, too. 730 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,215 You know, it's been a long 16 clays, 731 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:13,455 and so, we're all just super excited to see our loved ones again 732 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,975 and just be back to normal, 733 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,535 whatever that looks like. 734 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,495 And the kids decorated the house for his homecoming 735 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,095 and our neighbours put up flags. 736 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,615 REPORTER: Given the fact that you may have lost a little bit of tile 737 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,055 during lift-off, I'm wondering if there is going to be 738 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,895 anything different about the entry profile, taking that into regard? 739 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,815 No, there isn't. 740 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,135 We, the engineers and analysts, 741 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,695 took a very thorough look at the situation 742 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,055 with the tile on the left wing, 743 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,895 and we have no concerns whatsoever. 744 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,735 All of the analysis says that we have plenty of margin 745 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,775 and that the impact could not have been, 746 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,695 from this particular material, significant enough... 747 00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:59,815 ...and therefore we haven't changed anything 748 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,415 with respect to our trajectory design. 749 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,335 So, nothing, nothing different. 750 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,535 It'll be nominal, standard trajectory. 751 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,375 Ancl as we said, Columbia coming back, 752 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,295 it's been 16 clays now since she left the Kennedy Space Center. 753 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,375 This is the route. 754 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,775 I remember getting up that day 755 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,175 and we were staying right next to Banana River. 756 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,215 We got up and there were dolphin in the water 757 00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:36,615 and looking at the dolphin, 758 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,895 thinking it looked like a picture-perfect day. 759 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,495 I mean, it was so pretty and everything was so pleasant. 760 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,375 We show page A1 -15 complete. 761 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,975 MISSION CONTROL: And, Rick, we copy. 762 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,935 I just remember standing out on the balcony with Laura 763 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,775 and watching the sunrise 764 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,015 and just saying to her, "This is a clay you'll never forget." 765 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,695 We're about 42 minutes away from an engine firing 766 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:05,735 that would begin Columbia's descent. 767 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,135 The crew, in the final stages of their preparations now, 768 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,655 are taking their seats. 769 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,335 At the commander seat, Rick Husband. 770 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,935 Pilot Willie McCooL 771 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,415 I was desperately waiting for my mom to come back. 772 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,695 The thing I was most excited about was just... 773 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,215 ...holding her again and talking to her. 774 00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,855 They put bleachers close to the runway 775 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,135 and you're driven down there with your friends and family 776 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,655 that you have invited for the landing. 777 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,495 They had speakers and you could hear Rick talking. 778 00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:08,015 MISSION CONTROL: Rick, we're ready for the manoeuvre. 779 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,895 RODNEY ROCHA: I did not usually come in for a landing. 780 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,815 To me, those were so routine. 781 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,335 Usually, the orbiter has been working well, 782 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,175 they have a good weather call. 783 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,335 But I had this wing concern because of the impact. 784 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,135 So I said, "I will go in." 785 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,895 I realised that most of those people at those consoles, 786 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,095 they don't know anything that's been going on for two weeks. 787 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,535 They've been looking at 788 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,335 the condition of this system, this system, 789 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,295 but they don't know any other history. 790 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,575 I was the Lead Entry Ground Controller for the STS—1 07 mission. 791 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:51,135 My primary thing is getting the spacecraft up onto orbit 792 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,815 and getting it back down safely. 793 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,495 That morning, the atmosphere was upbeat, there's no issues. 794 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,215 We work with the crew to go through check outs of the orbiter systems. 795 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,615 Rick, we're ready. 796 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,975 Here it comes. 797 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,255 Looks good. 798 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,015 We got all of our systems ready, 799 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,375 all the sensors ready and we 800 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,775 prepared for the de-orbit preparation, 801 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,695 which is you convert the space shuttle 802 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:20,935 from a spacecraft to a re-entry vehicle. 803 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,575 Everything was proceeding normally that day. 804 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,375 The big thing that I remember really paying attention to 805 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,375 shortly before landing was the weather. 806 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,935 MISSION CONTROL: Flight controllers are currently monitoring the fog 807 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,375 that has limited visibility but is dissipating. 808 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,055 Because obviously, it's just critical to have decent visibility, 809 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,415 no big weather issues when you're landing. 810 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,255 Flight Director Leroy Cain discussing weather conditions 811 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,575 at present with forecasters here. 812 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,015 Leroy was the person in charge. 813 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,215 So, everybody on their consoles are monitoring their own systems 814 00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,895 and they're all reporting into Leroy what they're seeing. 815 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,895 MMACS and GNC, you're ready? 816 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,215 Flight-MMACS, we're ready. GNC is go. 817 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:04,935 OK. 818 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,455 Columbia, Houston. 819 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,535 Go ahead, Houston. 820 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,615 Hey, Rick, I guess you've been wondering, 821 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,495 but you are go for the de-orbit burn. 822 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,215 We are happy with the weather at KSC, you are go for the burn. 823 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,735 De-orbit burn is a major decision in the process. 824 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,455 Once that de-orbit burn is made, 825 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,015 you are committed to landing. 826 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,575 They're coming home. 827 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,055 One way or the other, they're coming home. 828 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,575 Columbia, Houston. 829 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,735 Good burn, no trim required. 830 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,455 We copy and concur, Houston. Thanks. 831 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,455 Then we'll meet you in post-burn. 832 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,335 REPORTER: Columbia's altitude now 71 statute miles 833 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,415 as it enters Earth's atmosphere above the Pacific Ocean. 834 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,135 Its speed, 17,000 mph. 835 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,175 THEY LAUGH 836 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,375 REPORTER: Columbia approaching the coast of California now. 837 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,175 Wings level, nose angled up 40 degrees to control heating. 838 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,055 Flight, MMACS 839 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,295 Go ahead, MMACS. 840 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,375 FYI, I've just lost four separate temperature transducers 841 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,295 on the left side of the vehicle, hydraulic return temperatures. 842 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,575 RODNEY ROCHA: As time goes on, we start seeing anomalies. 843 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,255 Sensors are starting to fail. 844 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,055 I mean, you're telling me you lost them all at exactly the same time? 845 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,455 No, not exactly. 846 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,095 They were within probably four or five seconds of each other. 847 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:38,095 There was something that we didn't understand going on. 848 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,215 And I remember asking my team, you know, 849 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:43,775 "just make double sure. 850 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,695 "Let's double-check all of our data." 851 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,215 OK. Where is that instrumentation located? 852 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,375 All four of them are located in the aft part of the left wing. 853 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,895 Something has gone very wrong. 854 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,455 And it is the left wing. 855 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,735 That's the stomach punch right there. 856 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,935 And, Columbia, Houston, we see your tyre pressure messages 857 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,655 and we did not copy your last... 858 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,975 Roger... STATIC CRACKLES 859 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,855 At some point, we lost comm with the crew, 860 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,575 but that's actually common. 861 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,935 I mean, you don't have communications 862 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,015 all the way through entry, 863 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,655 so that didn't initially get my attention. 864 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,575 Columbia, Houston. Comm check. 865 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,215 MMACS: We've also lost the nose gear down talk back 866 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,975 and the right main gear down talk back. 867 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,495 RODNEY ROCHA: Everybody started to lose sensors. 868 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,295 They were getting no telemetry whatsoever. 869 00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,535 The screens were just going blank, reading nothing, just turning off. 870 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,375 Columbia, Houston. UHF, comm check. 871 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,975 There was a tenseness coming into the room. 872 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,775 My focus was forward. 873 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,375 You know, trying to get something to report to flight that was useful. 874 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,695 But there wasn't anything. 875 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,375 Columbia, Houston. UHF, comm check. 876 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,015 Oh, it was...it was painful. 877 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,455 He makes the call. We hear nothing. 878 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,815 You look at the screen 879 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,935 and the tracking hadn't moved from the Dallas area. 880 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,135 FDO, do you have any tracking? 881 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,615 No, sir. 882 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,335 So, at the console that I was at, 883 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,935 we had an off-duty flight director 884 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,695 who called our console and said, 885 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,135 "Hey, I'm watching the landing on TV 886 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,575 "and they're showing this debris in the sky." 887 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:30,455 INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION 888 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,015 INAUDIBLE 889 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,015 ELLEN OCHOA, VOICE OVER: That's when we realised it really was bad. 72482

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