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HART [CHUCKLES]:
No, I can't shoot this.
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This is private.
This is private.
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This is not important
to show. Okay.
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Clear the way.
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Here we go.
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[♪♪]
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Good morning, world.
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Good morning, Evan.
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Mikey.
Get a shot of Mike.
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Good morning, Mike.
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Good morning, D.
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DANA:
Good morning.
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EVAN:
Good morning, Michael.
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HART:
So, Evan, where do you want me
to stand for the shot?
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EVAN:
Uh...
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Where do you
want me to stand?
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Right here?
EVAN: A little back.
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Take another step back?
Yeah.
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Big step back.
Oh, no.
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Oh, I'm so mad now.
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Oh.
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EVAN:
We'll see you later.
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[HUMMING]
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Whoo...
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Look at the sky.
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EVAN:
Okay, I'll interview you,
Mom.
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Okay, hi.
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How do you like
the trip?
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I love this trip,
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but I don't love it more
than you.
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Are you sure?
Yeah.
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Paradise.
I like paradise.
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There's Daddy.
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EVAN: Dad,
Yeah.
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what do you think
about the trip?
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Well, you know,
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I'm really glad you asked me
that question, Evan.
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Since I like this trip so much,
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you know what it makes me do?
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What?
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It makes me want to jump
right over you.
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Whoa...
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DANA: Very impressive.
EVAN: Yes.
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So now we're going
to get the house.
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There's Michael's room.
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And we're getting closer
to Michael,
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the sleeping baby.
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How do you like
the trip, Michael?
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So now you have to meet
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the cameraman.
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Am I good
or am I bad?
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We'll have that in...
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5.5 seconds.
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[♪♪]
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[SAW BUZZING]
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[PROJECTOR CLICKING]
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I was at my, uh--
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In my room in my boarding
school when my, uh--
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My dad called me
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and told that Evan
had jumped out of the--
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Out of his window.
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[♪♪]
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[STARTS ENGINE]
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It was sort of
the third week of school,
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I think, that he--
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He chose to take
his life.
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I went into
my mother's room
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and...
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I realized the sentence that
had to come out of my mouth.
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I had to communicate
to them
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why I was coming in there
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and why I was reaching out
for them and...
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[SNIFFLES]
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You know, I had to say,
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"Evan's killed himself."
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One of the things
that you do, I think--
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Or at least that I do
unconsciously,
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to avoid things that are
really too painful to...
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confront.
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--is just black them out.
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How-- How can
you understand doing that?
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It doesn't seem possible.
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What on Earth has happened
to make your son so miserable
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that he doesn't want
to be there anymore.
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[♪♪]
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[THUNDER CRASHES]
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DANA:
We'll never know
what was in Evan's head
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the night he killed himself.
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The mystery will always be
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what his thought was
when he was on the ledge.
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You know,
as he put one foot over the--
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The window,
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and made that decision.
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Maybe he started
to realize that
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his mental illness
was so powerful
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and that he couldn't win.
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MAN:
"He that raised up Jesus
from the dead
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"will also give life
to our mortal bodies,
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"in the sure and certain hope
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"of the resurrection
to eternal life
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"through our Lord Jesus Christ,
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"we commend to almighty God
our brother Evan,
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"and we commit his body
to the ground.
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"Earth to earth,
ashes to ashes,
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dust to dust."
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Amen.
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GROUP:
Amen.
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DANA:
How's it possible
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that I found myself
at his funeral
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holding my baby
for the last time?
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[♪♪]
[PROJECTOR CLICKING]
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The day Evan was born
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was the happiest day
of my life.
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It's indescribable.
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It-it was indescribable
happiness
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to finally see him,
because when you're pregnant
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you start to have
a relationship with the baby
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and it's, like,
moving around and...
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You know, who are you?
Knock-knock.
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Who's there?
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And then he comes out
and, uh,
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Evan was particularly pretty.
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I just fell in love
with him right away.
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[♪♪]
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HART:
Well, I actually filmed
Evan getting born
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and I was very excited.
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As I recall, I gave
the camera to the doctor
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and he did a shot also.
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DANA:
I was 26 when Evan was born.
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Hart was 42,
he already had a son
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from a previous relationship.
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But Evan was my first.
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Hart and I are filmmakers
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and at that time Hart was
shooting away a lot
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and he was gone
a lot of the time.
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So Evan and I ended up
being alone together.
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He was young,
I was young.
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We were like these two
little creatures,
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trying to help each other out
a little bit.
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[LAUGHING]
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Yes.
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Yes.
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What's this?
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HART:
Okay, we--
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We're gonna have
an interview with the mom.
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So, Mom...
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what do you think
about your kid?
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Kid?
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Oh, yeah, this thing.
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Well, think that--
I think that it's really
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just the most special thing,
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to give him big kisses.
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[BLOWS RASPBERRY]
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Really, I think
that's the best part
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of it all.
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NICHOLAS:
I remember the first time
I met Evan.
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Dana had come home
from the hospital.
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I think I had actually
been away with my mother
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while he was born
and my dad came
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and picked
me up at my apartment.
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I was living on Mercer Street
with my mom.
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And he said,
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"We're going to meet
your little brother."
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There's this photograph
of me, um,
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taken during my first
encounter with Evan
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and my expression
sort of sums it all up.
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It's, "what the fuck is this?"
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[CHUCKLES]
Sort of holding this baby
in my arms thinking,
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you know,
"where did he come from?"
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So-- So what--?
Who's your brother?
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Nicky.
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Do you like
your brother Nicky?
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[MUMBLES]
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So how old are you, Evan?
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Um...
I old--
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I older.
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You're older?
How old?
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Um, really old.
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Look at Daddy. Look at Daddy's
camera when you say that.
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I'm really old.
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You're really old?
How old?
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Like, big old.
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Are you big?
Yeah.
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How big are you?
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T--
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Real big?
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Big as a dinosaur?
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I remember his first
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word that he used over
and over and over again,
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was, "no."
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And we used to joke
it was "no"
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because he heard
the word "no" so much
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because as soon
as he was walking around
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he would get into everything.
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[GROUP LAUGHS]
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GROUP:
Aw...
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WOMAN:
Oh, how cute.
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[LAUGHTER]
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DANA:
Evan, no, no. No.
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Be gentle.
[WHINES]
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Oh, come on. "Please let me
punch him in the nose."
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[LAUGHTER]
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NICHOLAS:
I think I understood
from an early time
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that he was
a challenging kid.
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[CRYING]
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MAN:
Russell, Russell.
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[♪♪]
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Getting dressed in the morning
I knew was a challenge
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if he didn't have
the right outfit,
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you know, you weren't gonna
be leaving the house
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for a very long time.
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[♪♪]
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One summer we were
in Nantucket
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and we were trying to leave
the beach at the end of the day
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and I think it took us
45 minutes
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to get the towels
in the baskets
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and start walking home
from the beach
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because Evan wanted
the towels to be folded
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a certain way,
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and put in the basket
a certain way
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and if they weren't
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he would dump them out
in the sand
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and he'd say,
"Start over, start over."
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That was his big phrase.
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HART:
He was a perfectionist.
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And this persisted
throughout his whole life.
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If he wasn't absolutely
the best at something,
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then he would get
frustrated.
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And discipline was
pretty much impossible.
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I mean, the way
we used to handle it
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is we'd say, okay,
so you have time-out
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and put him in his room.
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Well, you put him
in his room for time-out
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it's like, you know,
Keith Moon in a hotel room.
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You know,
the TV set's out the window,
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bookshelves are, you know--
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Crashing over.
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And you come in and it's,
like, totally destroyed
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and do you think
he's at all--?
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Uh, you know,
feels bad about it?
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No, it's like,
"Okay, so put me in prison.
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I wanna go to prison."
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NICHOLAS:
There is no doubt
in my mind
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that he had
psychological issues.
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I guess the best way
I can describe it is
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he lacked emotional
shock absorbers.
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And because of that
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would react to situations
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that you and I would see
as insignificant
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in a really,
really big way.
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[♪♪]
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DANA:
Well, really,
it was almost like
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there were two Evans.
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He would be, on the one hand,
tantrumming
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and being completely
impossible to reach.
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On the other hand,
being this wonderful,
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vibrant, vivacious kid.
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[♪♪]
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EVAN:
Hello.
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CHRIS: Hello.
What's your name?
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My name is RoboCop,
what's yours?
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Nobody.
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00:15:02,333 --> 00:15:03,767
Well,
I'm pullin' you over,
264
00:15:03,834 --> 00:15:05,367
Nobody,
'cause you're speeding.
265
00:15:05,433 --> 00:15:07,567
Ease up
on the throttle.
266
00:15:07,633 --> 00:15:08,734
Okay, good night.
267
00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,100
Have sweet dreams,
goodbye.
268
00:15:11,166 --> 00:15:13,133
[BOTH LAUGH]
269
00:15:13,233 --> 00:15:16,100
DANA:
I mean, he was so much fun
to be around
270
00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:18,367
and when Michael was born
271
00:15:18,433 --> 00:15:19,900
Evan was thrilled.
272
00:15:19,967 --> 00:15:21,600
He finally had a playmate.
273
00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:22,900
They were roommates
274
00:15:22,967 --> 00:15:24,433
and he adored Michael.
275
00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:26,266
Hi, it's me Evan.
276
00:15:26,333 --> 00:15:29,400
That's my little brother
and that's my mom.
277
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HART:
And what are they doing?
278
00:15:33,033 --> 00:15:34,800
My mom's talk--
279
00:15:34,867 --> 00:15:36,567
Trying to talk
to somebody,
280
00:15:36,633 --> 00:15:39,834
Michael's just sucking
on his pacifier.
281
00:15:40,967 --> 00:15:42,033
I couldn't take 'em out
282
00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:43,600
'cause that was
too hard to open.
283
00:15:43,667 --> 00:15:45,667
DANA:
Okay, what's--?
What's Michael saying?
284
00:15:45,734 --> 00:15:47,033
EVAN:
He's saying that--
285
00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:49,700
"I wanna get that dog."
[WHINES]
286
00:15:49,767 --> 00:15:50,834
That's what he's saying.
287
00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:52,200
Okay, Evan,
you wanna film now?
288
00:15:52,266 --> 00:15:54,266
Yeah.
Okay.
289
00:15:54,333 --> 00:15:55,900
[EVAN GRUNTS]
290
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EVAN:
And that's...
291
00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,667
formula.
292
00:16:00,734 --> 00:16:02,133
There's a green shirt,
293
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,900
guess who, it's Daddy.
294
00:16:04,967 --> 00:16:06,467
Four eyes.
295
00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:09,133
Oh, there's inside the toilet.
296
00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,567
And there's under the bed,
let's go see.
297
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,834
We see red gloves,
298
00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:18,834
we see some socks.
299
00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:19,967
Ready?
HART: I'm ready.
300
00:16:20,033 --> 00:16:21,300
Okay, action.
301
00:16:21,367 --> 00:16:23,367
HART:
He learned how to read
very quickly,
302
00:16:23,433 --> 00:16:25,166
he loved books.
303
00:16:25,233 --> 00:16:28,166
He loved talking
about what he was reading.
304
00:16:28,233 --> 00:16:30,133
And he was a great companion,
you know,
305
00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,433
when you were doin' something.
306
00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,433
Going on a trip...
307
00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:34,700
He was a guy who was,
308
00:16:34,767 --> 00:16:36,700
you know,
good for an adventure.
309
00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:41,200
MAN:
All right, Hart.
310
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DANA: Hart.
EVAN: And Evan.
311
00:16:43,233 --> 00:16:45,233
I know, it's tough.
And Evan.
312
00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:47,300
And Evan.
313
00:16:47,367 --> 00:16:48,900
DANA:
He's a big one.
314
00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:53,467
Beautiful.
315
00:16:53,533 --> 00:16:55,633
Let's see
the triumphant fishermen.
316
00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:58,567
[CHEERING]
Yes, Nicholas.
317
00:16:58,633 --> 00:16:59,934
Yay!
318
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,233
What do you think, Evan?
319
00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:02,767
What do you think?
320
00:17:02,834 --> 00:17:04,600
Goody!
321
00:17:04,667 --> 00:17:05,734
My camera.
322
00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,367
HART:
Aw, poor baby boy.
323
00:17:08,433 --> 00:17:11,133
He needs to go
to Mommy for help.
324
00:17:12,567 --> 00:17:14,400
DANA:
Evan was incredibly
affectionate,
325
00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:15,533
he was very physical.
326
00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,967
Very cuddly.
Always cuddling up.
327
00:17:18,033 --> 00:17:22,000
Ev, are you a little baby
still in Mommy's tummy?
328
00:17:22,066 --> 00:17:25,066
Uh-huh. You haven't even
been born yet, have you?
329
00:17:27,100 --> 00:17:30,867
You have to take
that intense sweetness
330
00:17:30,934 --> 00:17:32,467
and l--
You know, sensitivity,
331
00:17:32,533 --> 00:17:34,066
and just completely upended
332
00:17:34,133 --> 00:17:36,700
into the darkest,
scariest...
333
00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,900
Uh...
334
00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,834
Scary, scary.
That's all I can say.
335
00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:48,500
Scary person,
scary soul.
336
00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:50,133
The darkest of souls.
337
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,333
[♪♪]
[APPLAUSE]
338
00:17:53,967 --> 00:17:55,333
When Evan was in kindergarten
339
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,200
I got a call
from the after-school teacher.
340
00:17:58,266 --> 00:17:59,400
She was really concerned
341
00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:01,400
about him talking
about suicide.
342
00:18:04,266 --> 00:18:06,967
KAREN:
I met Evan when he was 5,
343
00:18:07,033 --> 00:18:09,633
and he came to our program--
Performing arts school.
344
00:18:09,700 --> 00:18:11,066
And, um,
345
00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:13,033
he was probably the cutest kid
I've ever seen.
346
00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:15,200
[APPLAUSE]
347
00:18:16,166 --> 00:18:17,867
You try not to have favorites
348
00:18:17,934 --> 00:18:19,400
but sometimes
it just happens
349
00:18:19,467 --> 00:18:22,033
and he happened to be
all the teachers' favorite.
350
00:18:22,133 --> 00:18:24,900
He was just one of the most
loving, creative kids,
351
00:18:24,967 --> 00:18:26,500
I've ever met.
352
00:18:28,333 --> 00:18:29,633
Very righteous
353
00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:31,800
and everything had to be fair.
354
00:18:31,867 --> 00:18:35,200
And if someone was giving
anyone a hard time
355
00:18:35,266 --> 00:18:36,934
he would be the first one
to break it up
356
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,567
and say, "Do you think
that was fair?
357
00:18:38,633 --> 00:18:39,767
It wasn't fair."
358
00:18:39,834 --> 00:18:41,567
[♪♪]
359
00:18:41,633 --> 00:18:44,767
But when he was 5
and he was in the younger group
360
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,967
he was obsessed
with dying.
361
00:18:50,133 --> 00:18:51,500
You know,
jumping out the window
362
00:18:51,533 --> 00:18:52,900
and saying,
"I'll kill myself."
363
00:18:52,967 --> 00:18:55,400
And he said
a relative had done that.
364
00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:58,033
Every day in group,
he would bring that up.
365
00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:01,200
And he would say,
"I wanna jump out the window."
366
00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:03,767
He'd say, "I don't care
if I die. I don't care."
367
00:19:03,834 --> 00:19:05,500
And I said, "Well,
what about me?"
368
00:19:05,567 --> 00:19:07,600
And he said,
"Well, I'd feel bad for you
369
00:19:07,667 --> 00:19:09,166
"and my parents,
but I wouldn't mind
370
00:19:09,233 --> 00:19:11,166
'cause I won't feel
anything."
371
00:19:12,433 --> 00:19:13,767
And he would sit
in my lap
372
00:19:13,834 --> 00:19:16,433
and have his arm,
you know, around me
373
00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:17,934
and he would talk about it,
he said,
374
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,900
"No, I would--
I would jump out."
375
00:19:19,967 --> 00:19:21,967
You know, like--
I'm like, wh--?
376
00:19:22,033 --> 00:19:24,567
You know, without being upset,
without--
377
00:19:24,633 --> 00:19:27,734
You know, just being loving
and affectionate and...
378
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,734
And I said, "Evan,
that's just weird talk."
379
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,033
All right? You know,
come on.
380
00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:32,767
That's-- That's just weird.
381
00:19:33,834 --> 00:19:34,934
I've seen depressed kids
382
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,066
and I've seen,
you know, hyper kids.
383
00:19:37,133 --> 00:19:41,066
But not kids
who talk about...
384
00:19:41,133 --> 00:19:43,133
you know, dying.
385
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,433
He was just curious
about death.
386
00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:46,900
And even obsessed with it.
387
00:19:46,967 --> 00:19:50,967
DANA:
The thing about Evan's
obsession with death
388
00:19:51,033 --> 00:19:53,066
was that it was
so matter-of-fact.
389
00:19:53,133 --> 00:19:54,734
A lot of times
it was just casual.
390
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,567
EVAN:
Um, we're in Hawaii.
391
00:19:57,633 --> 00:20:00,367
We were just snorkeling,
I saw--
392
00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:02,633
Uh, we saw an eel,
393
00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:05,467
and now we're gonna go
look at some whales.
394
00:20:05,533 --> 00:20:08,400
Maybe we can see
Moby Dick's son.
395
00:20:08,467 --> 00:20:09,633
Like, I remember
396
00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:12,166
one time in-in Hawaii...
397
00:20:12,233 --> 00:20:14,667
We're just there snorkeling
or something
398
00:20:14,734 --> 00:20:17,934
and he says something like,
"By the way, I've got a rifle."
399
00:20:19,166 --> 00:20:20,734
Don't say this at home,
400
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,834
kids.
401
00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:24,133
HART:
So what?
402
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,967
I got a rifle.
403
00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:30,000
You got a rifle?
Yeah.
404
00:20:30,066 --> 00:20:31,300
What do you need
a rifle for?
405
00:20:31,367 --> 00:20:33,767
To shoot you.
406
00:20:33,834 --> 00:20:36,500
And you just go, "what?"
407
00:20:36,567 --> 00:20:38,400
Like, what do you mean
to sh--?
408
00:20:38,467 --> 00:20:39,800
I mean,
that's not really funny.
409
00:20:39,867 --> 00:20:42,400
It's not really expressed
in a--
410
00:20:42,467 --> 00:20:44,367
In a way that seems
attention-getting.
411
00:20:44,433 --> 00:20:46,533
It seems like,
412
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,300
"Yeah. This is what
I think about."
413
00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:52,266
"1997, Evan Perry.
414
00:20:52,333 --> 00:20:54,967
"Perfectionistic,
obsessive.
415
00:20:55,033 --> 00:20:58,133
Doesn't like
to have things..."
416
00:20:59,266 --> 00:21:00,734
I stopped writing there.
417
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,700
"Good athlete,
popular...
418
00:21:02,767 --> 00:21:05,467
DANA:
When he was 5 we did start
seeing a psychiatrist.
419
00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:08,266
"Doing well in school.
420
00:21:08,333 --> 00:21:11,066
Last year fighting, etc."
421
00:21:11,133 --> 00:21:13,000
And very early on,
422
00:21:13,066 --> 00:21:14,166
he diagnosed depression
423
00:21:14,233 --> 00:21:15,900
in Evan
and put him on Prozac.
424
00:21:15,967 --> 00:21:18,000
We talked about Prozac,
425
00:21:18,066 --> 00:21:20,567
September 25th, '97.
426
00:21:20,633 --> 00:21:22,667
That was the heyday
of where
427
00:21:22,734 --> 00:21:25,066
people were
just really discovering
428
00:21:25,133 --> 00:21:26,633
depression in children.
429
00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:29,800
You know, before--
I don't know when.
430
00:21:29,867 --> 00:21:31,166
When I started out training,
431
00:21:31,233 --> 00:21:33,500
people didn't really think
children had depression.
432
00:21:33,567 --> 00:21:34,600
It was just thought,
433
00:21:34,667 --> 00:21:36,300
children don't get
depressed. Period.
434
00:21:36,367 --> 00:21:38,333
I remember
when you prescribed Prozac
435
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,567
I was pretty surprised
436
00:21:39,633 --> 00:21:41,400
because I'd never heard
of that.
437
00:21:41,467 --> 00:21:43,133
That was, like,
a really big thing.
438
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,200
"Positive,
strong family history
439
00:21:45,266 --> 00:21:47,934
of depression
on both sides."
440
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,033
Should I say this part?
Or skip this?
441
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,100
"Parental uncle
442
00:21:52,166 --> 00:21:54,533
committed suicide, age 21."
443
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,667
Your brother, yeah.
444
00:21:56,734 --> 00:21:59,133
"Talks about death
and murder."
445
00:22:00,934 --> 00:22:02,800
He was just scary.
I don't know what to say.
446
00:22:02,867 --> 00:22:04,934
He had already made
a suicide attempt.
447
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,734
DANA: Which one?
"Ran to window
448
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,700
and threatened to jump
in front of parents," I wrote.
449
00:22:09,767 --> 00:22:12,767
"Defiant, rebellious,
banged head.
450
00:22:12,834 --> 00:22:16,333
"Threatened to kill
parents and brother.
451
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,667
I want cancer."
452
00:22:17,734 --> 00:22:21,367
Well, he was such a baby,
you know, in the beginning.
453
00:22:21,433 --> 00:22:22,667
He had such a baby face.
454
00:22:22,734 --> 00:22:24,633
I mean, such a kind of--
455
00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:27,567
Kind of, pink,
kind of, baby kid.
456
00:22:27,633 --> 00:22:30,033
And then it was this-that--
457
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:32,834
Kind of, visual contrast
between the--
458
00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:36,667
You know, the demons inside him
and that, kind of, sweet look.
459
00:22:36,734 --> 00:22:38,867
[♪♪]
460
00:22:41,033 --> 00:22:42,166
DANA:
At one point,
461
00:22:42,233 --> 00:22:44,567
I'd say,
Evan was about--
462
00:22:44,633 --> 00:22:46,200
Maybe 7 or 8.
463
00:22:46,266 --> 00:22:49,600
He and I were home
and once again
464
00:22:49,667 --> 00:22:52,900
he started to talk
about wanting to kill himself.
465
00:22:54,567 --> 00:22:56,400
A lot of times he would
tell me specifically
466
00:22:56,467 --> 00:22:57,600
what he was gonna do.
467
00:22:57,667 --> 00:22:59,000
He was gonna jump
out the window,
468
00:22:59,066 --> 00:23:00,433
he was gonna jump
off a building,
469
00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:01,934
he was gonna cut himself.
470
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,667
Or in this particular occasion,
471
00:23:03,734 --> 00:23:05,900
he was gonna hang himself.
472
00:23:05,967 --> 00:23:08,567
He took this pillow thing
473
00:23:08,633 --> 00:23:10,066
with a strap on it
474
00:23:10,133 --> 00:23:12,066
and climbed up
on his bunk bed,
475
00:23:12,133 --> 00:23:15,133
then he affixed it up there.
476
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,633
And then he put it
around his neck
477
00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:20,000
and he showed me how he was
gonna jump off the bunk bed.
478
00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:25,000
He's gonna show Mom
how he's gonna hang himself,
479
00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:26,667
right in front of her.
480
00:23:26,734 --> 00:23:30,133
And I didn't let him.
481
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,166
But I'm tired of trying
to explain to people
482
00:23:32,233 --> 00:23:33,367
what I'm hearing at home
483
00:23:33,433 --> 00:23:36,367
and I'm just gonna
record this.
484
00:23:38,033 --> 00:23:40,800
I always felt so guilty
about taking those pictures,
485
00:23:40,867 --> 00:23:44,300
but I was so tired
of explaining to people
486
00:23:44,367 --> 00:23:46,200
my son wants
to kill himself.
487
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,734
I just needed some kind
of proof that, um--
488
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,834
That this is really happening.
489
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:56,433
Because it was
so impossible to believe.
490
00:24:01,567 --> 00:24:03,200
Oh, God.
491
00:24:03,266 --> 00:24:04,767
This is when
he tried to hang himself?
492
00:24:04,834 --> 00:24:06,133
DANA:
Yeah.
493
00:24:11,266 --> 00:24:13,233
You know,
there was a, uh...
494
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,233
idea that children
could not be suicidal
495
00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:22,300
because they didn't understand
that death was, um,
496
00:24:22,367 --> 00:24:24,200
irreversible.
497
00:24:25,934 --> 00:24:28,000
Um...
498
00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:30,967
I never really felt
like I knew Evan very well.
499
00:24:31,033 --> 00:24:34,800
Um, he was the scariest kid
I ever saw in my life.
500
00:24:34,867 --> 00:24:36,367
I'd never seen who'd been this--
501
00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:40,266
Was this intent on,
uh, death.
502
00:24:40,333 --> 00:24:41,500
[♪♪]
503
00:24:41,567 --> 00:24:44,000
It felt to me always
like there was
504
00:24:44,066 --> 00:24:47,000
a mask or something there.
505
00:24:47,066 --> 00:24:49,266
And I remember that look
going over him.
506
00:24:49,333 --> 00:24:51,533
That unreachable look.
507
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,567
DANA:
When Evan went through
a mood swing
508
00:24:54,633 --> 00:24:55,800
his whole body changed.
509
00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:58,266
His face changed,
his physical attitude changed.
510
00:24:58,333 --> 00:25:00,266
His ability
to communicate changed.
511
00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:03,633
And you literally saw it
in his face.
512
00:25:03,667 --> 00:25:05,667
He became unreachable.
513
00:25:05,734 --> 00:25:08,834
Hart and I started
to call it the fugue state.
514
00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:10,200
You'd sort of go like this:
515
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:13,100
The physical change would be
516
00:25:13,133 --> 00:25:15,033
like a slackening of his face.
517
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,533
It just wasn't engaged.
518
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,800
Something receded.
519
00:25:19,867 --> 00:25:22,467
And what you had was
this kind of thing:
520
00:25:22,533 --> 00:25:23,800
This facade.
521
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,567
MAN:
Some whales are real curious,
they come right up to the boat.
522
00:25:42,633 --> 00:25:45,967
Some whales turn the other cheek
and leave, essentially.
523
00:25:46,033 --> 00:25:48,567
DANA:
There was a tone of voice
that went along with it too.
524
00:25:48,633 --> 00:25:50,967
A very flat tone of voice.
525
00:25:51,867 --> 00:25:53,233
[GROUP GASPING]
526
00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:55,767
WOMAN:
They look like orcas to me.
527
00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,900
HART:
Where'd you see the whale?
528
00:25:59,967 --> 00:26:03,033
I saw it over there
and over there.
529
00:26:04,567 --> 00:26:05,633
Pretty exciting seeing
530
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,033
the size of the whale,
wasn't it?
531
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:08,567
DANA:
Yeah, it was cool.
532
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,934
He could be very sullen.
533
00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:14,767
HART:
534
00:26:14,834 --> 00:26:16,400
I-- What do you mean?
535
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,700
Yeah, I am.
536
00:26:22,867 --> 00:26:24,467
Five.
HART: Five?
537
00:26:24,533 --> 00:26:26,266
This is the sixth.
538
00:26:26,333 --> 00:26:28,133
So this is
pretty exciting...
539
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,166
He definitely acted
like a teenager
540
00:26:30,233 --> 00:26:31,934
at a very young age.
541
00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:34,633
You hungry?
542
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:36,300
Yeah.
543
00:26:36,367 --> 00:26:39,367
Yeah, I want
a peanut butter sandwich.
544
00:26:43,266 --> 00:26:46,066
There's my goddamn control.
545
00:26:46,133 --> 00:26:47,266
HART:
What'd you say?
546
00:26:47,333 --> 00:26:49,266
God.
No, that's not nice.
547
00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:52,400
HART:
He seemed to have skipped
being a kid
548
00:26:52,467 --> 00:26:55,367
and gone immediately
to being a adolescent.
549
00:26:55,433 --> 00:26:57,266
HART:
How was
the football game yesterday?
550
00:26:57,333 --> 00:26:59,066
EVAN:
551
00:26:59,133 --> 00:27:01,600
DANA:
That you expect
from your 15-year-old.
552
00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:03,200
You know,
"You're not the boss of me.
553
00:27:03,266 --> 00:27:04,467
Come on, give me the car keys."
554
00:27:04,533 --> 00:27:05,700
"Where you goin'?"
"Out."
555
00:27:05,767 --> 00:27:07,333
"What'd you do in school?"
"Nothin'."
556
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,667
I mean, that seems normal.
557
00:27:08,734 --> 00:27:11,100
In a 7-year-old
it doesn't seem normal.
558
00:27:11,166 --> 00:27:13,600
And he was very teenage
it was--
559
00:27:13,667 --> 00:27:16,533
Along with that though,
he was also very sophisticated.
560
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,600
[GUITAR PLAYING]
561
00:27:17,667 --> 00:27:19,000
EVAN [SINGING]:
562
00:27:20,433 --> 00:27:22,100
DANA:
He did not have
a Britney Spears phase
563
00:27:22,166 --> 00:27:23,800
he did not have
a Backstreet Boys phase,
564
00:27:23,867 --> 00:27:26,567
he went straight to Dylan,
Neil Young, Nirvana.
565
00:27:26,633 --> 00:27:29,200
And he wrote
a lot of songs.
566
00:27:42,233 --> 00:27:45,266
His lyrics touched on things
that you can't imagine
567
00:27:45,333 --> 00:27:47,667
a kid that young
would even think about.
568
00:27:47,734 --> 00:27:50,133
♪ You would think it's ♪
569
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,233
♪ Odd for me ♪
570
00:27:53,734 --> 00:27:56,433
♪ If I could be ♪
571
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,734
♪ Cuttin' myself
On the neck ♪
572
00:28:03,233 --> 00:28:05,934
♪ Fittin' you
With my knife ♪
573
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,533
♪ Sayin' you're gonna
Die tonight ♪
574
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,834
DANA:
Stop!
575
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:12,433
♪ Well, that's because ♪
576
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:14,934
♪ I'm depressed
Nothing less ♪
577
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,834
♪ Curious, furious ♪
578
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:20,734
♪ So somebody kill me please ♪
579
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,834
♪ I'm standin' on my knees ♪
580
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:24,266
[MIKEY SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY]
581
00:28:25,867 --> 00:28:28,667
♪ Somebody kill me please ♪
582
00:28:28,734 --> 00:28:30,300
♪ Pretty, pretty please ♪
583
00:28:30,367 --> 00:28:33,133
♪ I'm standin' on my knees ♪
584
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,200
It's because I'm depressed.
585
00:28:37,266 --> 00:28:39,500
[♪♪]
586
00:28:39,567 --> 00:28:41,233
Okay, that's it.
587
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,500
NICHOLAS:
When he was maybe 8 or 9
he kept a journal
588
00:28:46,567 --> 00:28:48,967
and I saw it and took it out
589
00:28:49,033 --> 00:28:50,166
and started reading it.
590
00:28:50,233 --> 00:28:52,200
And there are these poems in it
591
00:28:52,266 --> 00:28:53,533
essentially saying,
592
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,900
"I'm prepared for death.
593
00:28:54,967 --> 00:28:56,233
I'm not afraid of death."
594
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:57,433
These really deep poems.
595
00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:58,900
And I was
596
00:28:58,967 --> 00:29:01,700
probably 15-16
597
00:29:01,767 --> 00:29:03,166
and going through
my moody phase.
598
00:29:03,233 --> 00:29:05,000
And I remember thinking,
"Wow.
599
00:29:05,066 --> 00:29:08,467
These are thoughts
I'm having right now."
600
00:29:09,834 --> 00:29:12,500
I felt there was something
really powerful
601
00:29:12,567 --> 00:29:14,133
going on in his mind,
602
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,834
that he had a sensitivity,
603
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:20,967
a maturity that was
way beyond his years.
604
00:29:23,533 --> 00:29:26,433
KAREN:
There's one play
that Evan wrote
605
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:28,166
and his character was
606
00:29:28,233 --> 00:29:30,867
a depressed kid who just saw
the negativity in everything.
607
00:29:30,934 --> 00:29:32,900
Hey, kid.
Yeah?
608
00:29:32,967 --> 00:29:35,700
It's not raining
anymore.
609
00:29:35,767 --> 00:29:37,033
Just give it some t--
610
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,333
Just give it some time,
it'll start up again.
611
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,934
When he was 10
he said,
612
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,233
"Let's do a play
about someone dying--
613
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:44,467
A boy dying."
614
00:29:44,533 --> 00:29:46,166
I said, "Well,
615
00:29:46,233 --> 00:29:47,567
what kind of story is that?"
616
00:29:47,633 --> 00:29:50,066
He said, "What? It's a story
about a kid dying."
617
00:29:50,133 --> 00:29:52,100
And all his friends
and they miss him.
618
00:29:52,166 --> 00:29:55,533
[SOBBING]
How am I supposed to live
without you?
619
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,967
You were my big brother.
620
00:29:58,033 --> 00:30:00,266
Who's gonna take care of me?
621
00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:02,200
Walk me to school?
622
00:30:02,266 --> 00:30:04,667
Calm me down
when I'm upset?
623
00:30:04,734 --> 00:30:07,433
Please, don't leave me.
624
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:09,033
We'll be there for you.
625
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,200
It will be okay.
626
00:30:10,266 --> 00:30:12,000
I'll walk you
to school.
627
00:30:12,066 --> 00:30:13,667
I can't leave him!
628
00:30:13,734 --> 00:30:15,266
Evan came up with a story
629
00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:16,433
that didn't make any sense.
630
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:17,900
Just, someone died.
631
00:30:17,967 --> 00:30:19,467
And, you know, that they cry.
632
00:30:19,533 --> 00:30:22,500
You said you would
always be there for me.
633
00:30:22,567 --> 00:30:23,600
Well, I need you
634
00:30:23,667 --> 00:30:26,867
more than I ever have
right now.
635
00:30:26,934 --> 00:30:29,333
I think he wanted the play
636
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,967
to be about the boy dying,
637
00:30:31,033 --> 00:30:33,333
which obviously was
his character,
638
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,767
and to be able to see it
in a play
639
00:30:36,834 --> 00:30:39,166
that everybody loves him.
640
00:30:39,233 --> 00:30:41,133
I know that.
When you leave, it's like,
641
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,700
that's when everyone
gets together
642
00:30:42,767 --> 00:30:44,333
and they miss you
and they honor you.
643
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,800
He will always
be with us.
644
00:30:45,867 --> 00:30:48,500
You don't have to
look here, or in heaven.
645
00:30:48,567 --> 00:30:50,500
Look in your heart
and he'll be there.
646
00:30:50,567 --> 00:30:52,700
[ERIC CLAPTON'S "TEARS IN
HEAVEN" PLAYING]
647
00:30:54,066 --> 00:30:55,734
So we decided to do the show
648
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,300
and that's when, um...
649
00:30:58,367 --> 00:31:00,166
you know, Evan attempted--
650
00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:01,834
Or came close
651
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:04,233
to attempting
suicide at PS-11.
652
00:31:04,333 --> 00:31:06,500
[♪♪]
653
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,066
DANA:
The fall semester of 2000,
654
00:31:13,133 --> 00:31:15,000
when Evan was in fifth grade
655
00:31:15,066 --> 00:31:16,800
he communicated
656
00:31:16,867 --> 00:31:18,066
to the principal of his school
657
00:31:18,133 --> 00:31:19,667
that he felt suicidal.
658
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:22,700
We get a letter
and of course--
659
00:31:22,767 --> 00:31:25,100
You know, it says, "just
a psychological evaluation."
660
00:31:25,166 --> 00:31:27,033
Well, I'm already in therapy.
661
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,633
I'm already seeing
a psychiatrist.
662
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,400
He was already on meds.
I don't know--
663
00:31:30,467 --> 00:31:31,834
You know,
I don't know what to do.
664
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:33,266
I don't know what to do.
665
00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:36,300
And three weeks later,
666
00:31:36,367 --> 00:31:38,500
he made an attempt at school.
667
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,600
I got a call at my office.
668
00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:44,367
"This is Mr. Delmonico
669
00:31:44,433 --> 00:31:47,734
from PS-11
and this is about Evan."
670
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,834
He said,
"It's-it's very serious.
671
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:51,467
Um, you need to get here."
672
00:31:51,533 --> 00:31:54,166
And I'm like, "You have to
tell me what's going on."
673
00:31:54,233 --> 00:31:57,734
He said, "He's up on the roof
of his school."
674
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,033
PS-11, it's probably
675
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,000
six stories.
676
00:32:02,066 --> 00:32:03,834
And he took
a chunk of pavement
677
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:05,367
about the size
of a hamburger
678
00:32:05,433 --> 00:32:07,300
and threw it down
onto the playground
679
00:32:07,367 --> 00:32:08,667
where the other kids were.
680
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,567
One of the teachers
went out on the roof
681
00:32:12,633 --> 00:32:16,233
and there was Evan,
perched on a ledge.
682
00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:19,500
And Evan told him
that he wanted to kill himself,
683
00:32:19,567 --> 00:32:21,333
that he was gonna jump.
684
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,533
The teacher told him
that life was worth living
685
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,934
and what was good about Evan,
686
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,700
and that he was loved.
687
00:32:28,767 --> 00:32:31,700
And eventually Evan
came down on his own.
688
00:32:32,767 --> 00:32:34,266
By the time I got there,
689
00:32:34,333 --> 00:32:37,400
he had been brought down
into the principal's office
690
00:32:37,467 --> 00:32:39,800
and we were there
in the principal's office
691
00:32:39,867 --> 00:32:41,333
and we decided to go straight
692
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,467
from there to an emergency room.
693
00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:45,700
[SIREN WAILS]
694
00:32:45,767 --> 00:32:47,333
One of the residents
asked him,
695
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,400
"Do you know what it's like
to be dead?"
696
00:32:50,467 --> 00:32:52,934
He says, "Yeah,
everybody gathers around
697
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,900
and talks about
how great you were."
698
00:32:55,967 --> 00:32:57,734
HART:
And for me it was like,
699
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,266
this is my worst fear.
700
00:32:59,333 --> 00:33:01,233
He is like my brother.
701
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:03,000
[PROJECTOR CLICKING]
702
00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:06,800
My younger brother Scott
committed suicide
703
00:33:06,867 --> 00:33:10,266
by asphyxiating himself
in a car.
704
00:33:17,633 --> 00:33:19,734
Because of my experience
with my brother
705
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,200
I wasn't going to
fool around.
706
00:33:23,266 --> 00:33:26,600
We had Evan
involuntarily committed
707
00:33:26,667 --> 00:33:28,667
to a mental institution.
708
00:33:28,734 --> 00:33:31,333
Uh, 'cause we were...
709
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,333
very, very concerned
about his suicide attempt.
710
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,500
We took it very seriously.
711
00:33:35,567 --> 00:33:39,233
The place he went
was called Four Winds.
712
00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:40,867
It's outside of New York,
713
00:33:40,934 --> 00:33:44,667
and it's a lock-up
psychiatric facility.
714
00:33:45,767 --> 00:33:47,133
SUZANNE:
Evan was brought in
715
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,533
by ambulance after having
an incident at school.
716
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400
Um, he was brought to
the Deerfield Unit
717
00:33:53,467 --> 00:33:55,600
which is the unit
I was working on at the time.
718
00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:57,734
Which is for kids 8 to 12.
719
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,400
And immediately assessed
and evaluated.
720
00:34:01,467 --> 00:34:02,867
We were able to establish
721
00:34:02,934 --> 00:34:04,934
a, uh-- A pattern.
722
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,500
And saw that he definitely,
723
00:34:06,567 --> 00:34:09,066
uh, met the criteria
for bipolar disorder.
724
00:34:09,133 --> 00:34:11,367
[PROJECTOR CLICKING]
725
00:34:11,433 --> 00:34:14,133
You know, known historically
as manic-depression.
726
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,166
This is a chemical imbalance,
727
00:34:16,233 --> 00:34:19,066
a chemical illness
in the brain.
728
00:34:19,133 --> 00:34:22,734
Some kids have more of
a propensity towards depression
729
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,233
and some kids have more of
a propensity towards mania.
730
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:26,433
I think in Evan's case,
731
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:28,700
it was definitely
more depression.
732
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:34,033
Bipolar depression
is definitely more severe
733
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,600
than just depression.
734
00:34:36,667 --> 00:34:39,533
That's why suicide attempts
are more common
735
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,867
in kids
with bipolar depression.
736
00:34:41,934 --> 00:34:44,300
And that's why it's scarier.
737
00:34:44,367 --> 00:34:46,633
'Cause you don't know
how far he'll take it.
738
00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:49,633
You know, you don't know
if he actually would
739
00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:52,667
have jumped off that ledge
at school.
740
00:34:52,734 --> 00:34:54,400
You know,
he had a tendency to blame
741
00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,467
other people
or other situations
742
00:34:56,533 --> 00:34:58,734
instead of being able to say,
"Okay, yeah, I get it.
743
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,767
"I did something
I probably shouldn't have done,
744
00:35:00,834 --> 00:35:04,000
it scared a lot of people
and that's why I'm here."
745
00:35:04,066 --> 00:35:05,367
He just sort of said,
746
00:35:05,433 --> 00:35:07,967
"All I wanted
was someone to listen."
747
00:35:08,033 --> 00:35:09,567
And he just couldn't understand
748
00:35:09,633 --> 00:35:13,133
that his behaviors
and the measure that he took
749
00:35:13,166 --> 00:35:15,100
were scary to people.
750
00:35:15,166 --> 00:35:17,834
He didn't think that if he went
and stood on the, uh--
751
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:20,333
The roof of the school,
that anything would happen.
752
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,900
So when he ended up
in a hospital
753
00:35:21,967 --> 00:35:24,700
where it's lock down
and they watch you every second
754
00:35:24,767 --> 00:35:26,300
and you're not allowed
to do anything
755
00:35:26,367 --> 00:35:28,233
unless it's part
of the schedule
756
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:29,900
and there are these
other damaged kids
757
00:35:29,967 --> 00:35:31,867
and your parents can only visit
once in a while.
758
00:35:31,934 --> 00:35:34,000
He just broke down.
[♪♪]
759
00:35:34,066 --> 00:35:36,900
I mean, he just fell apart.
He fell apart.
760
00:35:38,533 --> 00:35:40,867
SUZANNE:
He was destroying property
on the unit.
761
00:35:40,934 --> 00:35:43,000
He was very, very angry.
762
00:35:43,066 --> 00:35:45,667
At one point I remember
he drew all over his walls
763
00:35:45,734 --> 00:35:49,300
in his room and we had to
have him clean his walls.
764
00:35:49,367 --> 00:35:52,633
He also was tantrumming a lot,
he was angry a lot.
765
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:56,400
He was banging his head
and his arms up against a wall.
766
00:35:56,467 --> 00:35:59,367
When he was in the throes
of a manic episode
767
00:35:59,433 --> 00:36:01,200
or a depressive episode,
768
00:36:01,266 --> 00:36:02,867
you know, you couldn't reason.
769
00:36:02,934 --> 00:36:06,133
And you can't reason
with a kid who's bipolar.
770
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,367
HART:
Visiting Evan at Four Winds
771
00:36:08,433 --> 00:36:10,800
was agonizing.
772
00:36:10,867 --> 00:36:12,867
Here is a kid
773
00:36:12,934 --> 00:36:16,166
who was in a lock-up
psychiatric facility
774
00:36:16,233 --> 00:36:19,433
for seriously
mentally ill kids.
775
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:21,767
And coming to terms
with your kid
776
00:36:21,834 --> 00:36:24,000
who seemed to have
behavioral issues
777
00:36:24,066 --> 00:36:26,066
but he could've just,
you know--
778
00:36:26,133 --> 00:36:27,233
Be like an adolescent,
779
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:29,200
that this is something
he'd go through.
780
00:36:29,266 --> 00:36:30,767
Because he had so many really,
781
00:36:30,834 --> 00:36:33,567
you know, charming,
bright qualities.
782
00:36:33,633 --> 00:36:36,533
Four Winds was, uh,
783
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,600
a real body punch.
784
00:36:38,667 --> 00:36:42,967
Evan was given a variety
of medications.
785
00:36:43,033 --> 00:36:44,900
Depakote was one of them.
786
00:36:44,967 --> 00:36:47,266
Uh, he seemed really doped up.
787
00:36:47,333 --> 00:36:49,100
And then they suggested
788
00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:51,500
that he try lithium.
789
00:36:51,567 --> 00:36:53,500
SUZANNE:
Lithium is a mood stabilizer
790
00:36:53,567 --> 00:36:55,600
and it is used to level off
791
00:36:55,667 --> 00:36:57,633
the serotonin in the brain
792
00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:00,033
as opposed to having
the highs and lows
793
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:04,433
you kind of even off
the chemistry.
794
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:06,533
DANA:
He really did start
to respond to lithium.
795
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,767
I mean, it was really,
pretty remarkable.
796
00:37:08,867 --> 00:37:12,233
But he was still, you know,
profoundly ill.
797
00:37:12,266 --> 00:37:13,800
So then the question
became like:
798
00:37:13,867 --> 00:37:16,667
Well, what do we do after this?
799
00:37:16,734 --> 00:37:18,700
[BIRDS CAWING]
800
00:37:18,767 --> 00:37:21,200
HART:
PS-11 would not take him back
801
00:37:21,266 --> 00:37:23,700
and there was no place
for him to go.
802
00:37:23,767 --> 00:37:26,333
Uh, except for this
very expensive alternative
803
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,533
which turned out to,
I think, have saved his life
804
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,266
for a number of years.
805
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:35,133
DANA:
Suzanne Hanna who was
his therapist
806
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,266
recommended this place
called Wellspring
807
00:37:37,333 --> 00:37:40,567
which was what they call
Milieu Therapy.
808
00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:41,767
Everything's an opportunity
809
00:37:41,834 --> 00:37:43,266
to learn how to live
in the group.
810
00:37:43,333 --> 00:37:45,333
From doing the dishes,
making meals,
811
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,433
to taking care of animals,
812
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:48,667
to taking care
of younger children,
813
00:37:48,734 --> 00:37:51,367
to chores
and things like that.
814
00:37:52,333 --> 00:37:54,166
DAN:
Evan came to us
815
00:37:54,233 --> 00:37:55,967
from Four Winds hospital
816
00:37:56,033 --> 00:37:58,734
and they were pretty adamant
that the bipolar disorder was,
817
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,367
um, managed,
medication-wise
818
00:38:01,433 --> 00:38:04,033
and that he was on
the proper dosages
819
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,633
and, uh, that seemed
to be the case
820
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:07,066
on some level we saw.
821
00:38:07,133 --> 00:38:09,633
And then, right away,
within a few days,
822
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:11,200
Evan decided to venture
823
00:38:11,266 --> 00:38:13,900
off campus and, uh...
824
00:38:13,967 --> 00:38:16,300
Obvious question
at that point was:
825
00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:18,233
Was it really controlled?
826
00:38:20,166 --> 00:38:23,367
Three days in he decided
that he wasn't gonna have it.
827
00:38:23,433 --> 00:38:24,800
You know,
that this whole thing
828
00:38:24,867 --> 00:38:26,266
about the adults being
in charge
829
00:38:26,333 --> 00:38:29,066
really wasn't for him.
830
00:38:29,133 --> 00:38:31,500
He made it a little bit more
complicated than he had to.
831
00:38:31,567 --> 00:38:33,100
Built in a little
dramatic effect,
832
00:38:33,166 --> 00:38:35,266
he went out a window.
He could've went out the door.
833
00:38:35,333 --> 00:38:37,633
We don't have--
The doors aren't locked.
834
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:39,500
Oh, I see,
so he went out the window
835
00:38:39,567 --> 00:38:41,300
and then went on the roof,
836
00:38:41,367 --> 00:38:42,533
and then jumped down.
837
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,333
So this was like--
That involved some doing.
838
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,900
HART:
Dana gets a phone call
from Evan,
839
00:38:47,967 --> 00:38:50,433
that he's climbed out
a window
840
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:52,500
and escaped from Wellspring
841
00:38:52,567 --> 00:38:55,000
and is in some guy's house.
842
00:38:55,066 --> 00:38:56,767
Of course, we had to go
to juvenile court
843
00:38:56,834 --> 00:38:59,333
because the guy whose house
he broke into,
844
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,433
uh, pressed charges.
845
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:05,066
I think the neighbor
whose house he was in
846
00:39:05,133 --> 00:39:07,633
was quite unforgiving.
847
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:09,700
You know, luckily,
he didn't do anything
848
00:39:09,767 --> 00:39:11,533
with that man's house
that day,
849
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,834
but he was trying to get
850
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:15,033
a rise out of his parents
to come rescue him.
851
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:16,667
Show them just how much
he's suffering
852
00:39:16,734 --> 00:39:18,767
and he'll go home
and stir it all up again
853
00:39:18,834 --> 00:39:20,700
and be back
in the hospital again in--
854
00:39:20,767 --> 00:39:22,100
You know, another year.
855
00:39:22,166 --> 00:39:24,834
It was as if he was in a game.
856
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:27,066
It was an important event,
857
00:39:27,133 --> 00:39:29,900
and it really kind of marked
that need for a switch.
858
00:39:29,967 --> 00:39:33,467
That-that Evan really needed
to be held accountable
859
00:39:33,533 --> 00:39:35,700
for the relational damage
he was doing.
860
00:39:35,767 --> 00:39:38,333
So that event was a microcosm
861
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,266
of what had happened
in his life.
862
00:39:40,333 --> 00:39:42,533
He wasn't being held
accountable on some level
863
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,433
for the damage he did
to you all.
864
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:46,367
That was the first night
we were here.
865
00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:47,667
We sat right here, right?
866
00:39:47,734 --> 00:39:48,734
Yup.
867
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,266
As I recall, um,
you had us in first
868
00:39:51,333 --> 00:39:53,166
and kind of gave us
a little heads up
869
00:39:53,233 --> 00:39:55,200
and then Evan came in
870
00:39:55,266 --> 00:39:56,867
and he had us,
I think, sit on his--
871
00:39:56,934 --> 00:39:58,867
Sit in our laps and--
Right.
872
00:39:58,934 --> 00:40:01,767
And you told him we had to talk
to him really honestly.
873
00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:02,834
Right.
874
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:04,000
And I did and it was--
875
00:40:04,066 --> 00:40:06,400
It was like
this incredible relief
876
00:40:06,467 --> 00:40:09,900
because I had permission
to say what I was feeling
877
00:40:09,967 --> 00:40:12,033
without being afraid
of breaking him.
878
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:13,200
You know?
I remember.
879
00:40:13,266 --> 00:40:14,667
And you-you were like,
"Really?"
880
00:40:14,734 --> 00:40:16,700
[CHUCKLES]
Yeah, I was like, really?
881
00:40:16,767 --> 00:40:18,166
Well, if I tell him
that I'm afraid
882
00:40:18,233 --> 00:40:19,867
I'm gonna find him dead,
he'll explode.
883
00:40:19,934 --> 00:40:22,000
And the world will end
and, you know,
884
00:40:22,066 --> 00:40:23,633
all this stuff
will come rushing out,
885
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:24,767
and we'll be poisonous,
886
00:40:24,834 --> 00:40:26,500
and we won't be
able to survive it.
887
00:40:26,567 --> 00:40:29,333
And I think,
to all of our amazement,
888
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,200
we not only survived,
889
00:40:31,266 --> 00:40:33,333
but started building,
you know, on that.
890
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,700
[♪♪]
891
00:40:35,767 --> 00:40:37,734
DANA:
Finally he started to work
892
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,400
with the therapy at Wellspring.
893
00:40:39,467 --> 00:40:42,066
And slowly, bit by bit,
894
00:40:42,133 --> 00:40:44,734
he started to come around
to their philosophy.
895
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,166
We came frequently for,
you know, sessions,
896
00:40:48,233 --> 00:40:51,433
where we learned
how to communicate as a family.
897
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:54,667
With Evan--
With his unique needs.
898
00:40:54,734 --> 00:40:56,400
It was like learning
a new language.
899
00:40:56,467 --> 00:40:59,533
DANA:
They basically say
that children are responsible
900
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,033
for their actions.
901
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,166
Let's put it really simply:
902
00:41:02,233 --> 00:41:04,133
If you make a mess,
you clean it up.
903
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,500
Whether it's a physical mess
904
00:41:05,567 --> 00:41:07,767
like you spilled something,
you need to clean up,
905
00:41:07,834 --> 00:41:08,967
or an emotional mess.
906
00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:10,533
I remember coming here
907
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,800
and seeing, uh, Evan working
on that stone wall over there.
908
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,600
DAN:
For a child to think
they cleaned up their mess
909
00:41:17,667 --> 00:41:19,467
and they made something
a little better,
910
00:41:19,533 --> 00:41:21,500
rather than feeling
like you were punished
911
00:41:21,567 --> 00:41:23,633
or you had consequences
or whatever.
912
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:24,900
But in this case you get to feel
913
00:41:24,967 --> 00:41:27,000
like you really
repaired something.
914
00:41:27,066 --> 00:41:29,500
Yeah, and maybe that's even
better than it was before.
915
00:41:29,567 --> 00:41:31,633
DANA:
I think what happened
at Wellspring
916
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:35,333
is that they encouraged
Evan to be a boy.
917
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,967
I think a lot
of their philosophy is
918
00:41:38,033 --> 00:41:39,867
to let children be children.
919
00:41:39,934 --> 00:41:42,767
DAN:
When he came he was
kind of running the show.
920
00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:45,367
You know,
he was in adult conversations,
921
00:41:45,433 --> 00:41:49,200
and he would much prefer
being with the staff
922
00:41:49,266 --> 00:41:50,800
than he would
with the other kids.
923
00:41:50,867 --> 00:41:53,000
He really needed
to be a kid again
924
00:41:53,066 --> 00:41:54,700
and just have fun
and relax and--
925
00:41:54,767 --> 00:41:59,000
And forget about all those
bigger issues.
926
00:41:59,066 --> 00:42:01,800
DANA:
Especially for Evan who was
really acting like
927
00:42:01,867 --> 00:42:03,367
such a teenager
at such a young age,
928
00:42:03,433 --> 00:42:06,233
it was a miracle
to see him get past
929
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:08,033
that facade of "I'm too cool."
930
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,400
And to just be a pure boy.
931
00:42:10,467 --> 00:42:13,166
And I remember a time
seeing him at Wellspring
932
00:42:13,233 --> 00:42:15,934
playing in the yard
with pure boyness,
933
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,467
that boy essence, which is what
you need at that age.
934
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:20,467
It's a beautiful day,
you're throwing a ball
935
00:42:20,533 --> 00:42:21,533
with your friends.
936
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,500
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
937
00:42:23,567 --> 00:42:26,967
DANA:
Early on, I'd say in the first
four weeks or so,
938
00:42:27,033 --> 00:42:28,367
he began to earn
weekend passes,
939
00:42:28,433 --> 00:42:30,633
so the weekend
of Michael's birthday,
940
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:31,800
he finally did get released,
941
00:42:31,867 --> 00:42:33,166
and he was at
the birthday party
942
00:42:33,233 --> 00:42:35,133
and I remember looking at him
and thinking,
943
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,800
"Oh, he looks like a boy."
944
00:42:40,133 --> 00:42:43,100
I mean, the old Evan
would've been too cool,
945
00:42:43,166 --> 00:42:44,800
he would've been
turning up his nose,
946
00:42:44,867 --> 00:42:46,033
and he would've been sneering,
947
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:47,533
he wouldn't have
in a million years
948
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,033
let the clown paint his face.
Okay, never.
949
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,633
He allowed himself to be a kid.
950
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,333
I-- I saw those layers
peel away.
951
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,533
And a lot of it had to do with
952
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,467
how strict the counselors were.
They weren't having it.
953
00:43:06,533 --> 00:43:08,700
Evan could try to talk his way
out of anything.
954
00:43:08,767 --> 00:43:11,667
And Dan's just saying
"I'm not going anywhere."
955
00:43:11,734 --> 00:43:14,633
DAN:
Remember, you know,
bipolar disorder is not just
956
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:17,033
a disorder of mood,
it's a disorder of judgment.
957
00:43:17,133 --> 00:43:19,367
And for kids
that's so debilitating.
958
00:43:19,433 --> 00:43:21,100
If the adults
don't hold them close
959
00:43:21,133 --> 00:43:22,500
and make them responsible.
960
00:43:22,567 --> 00:43:25,667
What he needed to know
is that you guys were in charge,
961
00:43:25,767 --> 00:43:28,066
and then he could build
from your judgment,
962
00:43:28,133 --> 00:43:29,900
and that's what he allowed
us to do first,
963
00:43:29,967 --> 00:43:31,667
'cause he looked around,
he said, "Okay,
964
00:43:31,767 --> 00:43:34,066
I'm not getting over on these
guys, I'll let that happen."
965
00:43:34,133 --> 00:43:36,066
And then we obviously
bridge that to you.
966
00:43:36,133 --> 00:43:39,000
It was one of the shortest
stays we've really ever had,
967
00:43:39,066 --> 00:43:41,600
uh, of a boy with so much
going on in his life.
968
00:43:41,667 --> 00:43:44,467
Three months
is really an unusual time
969
00:43:44,533 --> 00:43:46,633
to get all that done.
970
00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:48,967
DANA:
By the time
Evan finished at Wellspring,
971
00:43:49,033 --> 00:43:50,967
the lithium had definitely
kicked in.
972
00:43:51,033 --> 00:43:53,166
Along with the therapy,
it was working,
973
00:43:53,233 --> 00:43:55,600
and you couldn't have
one without the other.
974
00:43:55,667 --> 00:43:58,967
He seemed well enough
to rejoin our family.
975
00:43:59,033 --> 00:44:03,000
HART:
The whole family went to
Wellspring, and we all learned,
976
00:44:03,066 --> 00:44:07,300
and when it was over,
here we had this kid again,
977
00:44:07,367 --> 00:44:09,934
and what do we do with him?
978
00:44:11,667 --> 00:44:14,066
HART:
So we decided to see
whether we could get him
979
00:44:14,133 --> 00:44:16,834
into a mainstream school
which was sensitive
980
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:18,533
to kids who had issues.
981
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,533
So we got him into a school
called York Prep.
982
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,900
And suddenly everything
was different.
983
00:44:24,967 --> 00:44:26,066
[BELL RINGING]
984
00:44:28,066 --> 00:44:31,633
We would get a report card
and he was, like,
985
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:34,367
one of the best students
in the class.
986
00:44:34,433 --> 00:44:36,066
The teachers were saying
987
00:44:36,133 --> 00:44:40,500
"I wish all my students
were like Evan."
988
00:44:40,567 --> 00:44:44,033
He got the prize
in the science project.
989
00:44:44,133 --> 00:44:47,300
HART: So what's this?
My science fair.
990
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,433
DANA:
Now you've got
the ribbon.
991
00:44:55,033 --> 00:44:57,667
The ribbon.
992
00:44:57,767 --> 00:44:59,800
BOY:
It was so hard,
taking them so fast.
993
00:44:59,867 --> 00:45:02,000
There are, like, 40 pictures
with digital camera,
994
00:45:02,066 --> 00:45:03,533
and none of 'em worked.
995
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,867
DANA:
One of the great things
about Evan going to York
996
00:45:05,934 --> 00:45:08,633
is he found such a great group
of friends.
997
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:10,400
It took awhile for him to, like,
998
00:45:10,467 --> 00:45:12,767
kind of gain your trust
and stuff like that,
999
00:45:12,834 --> 00:45:14,400
and, um, after awhile, it was--
1000
00:45:14,467 --> 00:45:17,100
He was just one of those people
I could talk to about anything,
1001
00:45:17,166 --> 00:45:18,700
and come to him
with any problem.
1002
00:45:18,767 --> 00:45:21,200
Once we started hanging out,
I started to, like, you know,
1003
00:45:21,266 --> 00:45:22,533
figure out his interest in toys.
1004
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,266
And I really liked toys,
like, toys was my thing,
1005
00:45:25,333 --> 00:45:27,500
and toys was his thing,
and cartoons were his thing.
1006
00:45:27,567 --> 00:45:28,633
And cartoons were my thing.
1007
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:30,133
Well,
he was definitely different
1008
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,533
from all the other kids
we hung out with.
1009
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,700
Nobody seemed to have strong
opinions like him.
1010
00:45:36,767 --> 00:45:39,233
He was really set in his ways.
1011
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:41,934
And once he had an idea
he wasn't gonna let it go.
1012
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,533
Lot of stuff people say in high
school they don't really mean
1013
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,934
or they're just trying to be
popular, but, like, you know,
1014
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,700
Evan, he would just go right
into it, he wouldn't hold back.
1015
00:45:50,767 --> 00:45:54,266
What I liked about Evan was that
he, uh, was really creative,
1016
00:45:54,333 --> 00:45:57,734
and was interested in a lot of
things that, like, not like--
1017
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,867
Not just TV. Like, a lot of kids
were just watching TV,
1018
00:46:00,934 --> 00:46:02,734
and he was making TV.
1019
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,400
[ALL LAUGHING]
1020
00:46:04,467 --> 00:46:07,200
HART:
Evan had various,
you know, movie ideas.
1021
00:46:07,266 --> 00:46:11,734
When he was younger
he roped me into shooting them.
1022
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,734
HART: Come on, let's start.
All right, ready.
1023
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,166
It's rolling now.
You guys, shut up!
1024
00:46:16,233 --> 00:46:17,367
HART:
Okay, ready?
1025
00:46:17,433 --> 00:46:20,000
Three, two, one, action.
1026
00:46:20,066 --> 00:46:23,934
Hi, I'm Adam Luke, and I'm here
to host a new reality TV show
1027
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,734
titled, "What it Takes
to be an Astronaut."
1028
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,567
HART:
There was a certain
amount of chaos
1029
00:46:28,633 --> 00:46:30,433
that was involved
in the creation of them.
1030
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:33,367
All right, a redneck, and then,
Gabe, you have to say something.
1031
00:46:33,433 --> 00:46:35,600
You have Chinese ADD,
don't forget.
1032
00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:38,033
[IMITATING CHINESE ACCENT]
I go to space all the time.
1033
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:42,233
Spaces. Spaces.
No gravity.
1034
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:44,834
Okay, I'm not Chinese, 'cause
it's too hard to be Chinese.
1035
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:46,867
You're Chi-- You have ADD,
what's the ADD about?
1036
00:46:46,934 --> 00:46:48,934
ADD, ADD,
no Chinese.
1037
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,100
[ALL LAUGHING]
1038
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,333
Do you know how long
it took us
1039
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,700
just to get through
these three lines? It took--
1040
00:46:55,767 --> 00:46:58,000
HART:
Just try to play it a little
more serious, okay?
1041
00:46:58,066 --> 00:46:59,800
You.
Who are you supposed to be?
1042
00:46:59,867 --> 00:47:03,633
HART:
It doesn't really-- At this
point, it doesn't matter.
1043
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:05,767
I wanna do-- I wanna do
the whole thing over again.
1044
00:47:05,834 --> 00:47:07,700
HART:
What do you mean,
"the whole thing"?
1045
00:47:07,767 --> 00:47:09,533
'Cause I was--
1046
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,700
[ALL SINGING INDISTINCTLY]
1047
00:47:13,834 --> 00:47:17,633
♪ I say, "Yo, man
You want to fly through space" ♪
1048
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,400
WILL:
All the films we were making
were all disasters.
1049
00:47:20,467 --> 00:47:22,133
We always got too excited
about 'em,
1050
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,800
'cause, like,
we'd have microphones,
1051
00:47:23,867 --> 00:47:25,567
we have a nice camera,
and we'd, like,
1052
00:47:25,633 --> 00:47:27,967
talk about it and talk about it
and talk about it.
1053
00:47:28,033 --> 00:47:30,800
And then we'd just--
Wouldn't finish it.
1054
00:47:30,867 --> 00:47:32,600
[♪♪]
1055
00:47:32,667 --> 00:47:36,066
AIDAN:
There was a summer Evan
went to New York Film Academy,
1056
00:47:36,133 --> 00:47:37,900
and asked me to be
in one of his movies.
1057
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,000
The assignment was to shoot,
uh,
1058
00:47:41,066 --> 00:47:43,667
in black and white
and no sound.
1059
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:47,066
He made a movie
about me waking up
1060
00:47:47,133 --> 00:47:49,767
in a world with no sound
and no color.
1061
00:47:49,834 --> 00:47:52,667
[MOUTHING]
No!
1062
00:48:19,133 --> 00:48:22,100
I never knew that there was
anything wrong with him.
1063
00:48:22,166 --> 00:48:24,133
He took medication.
I had no idea.
1064
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,734
Never brought it up.
1065
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,233
Never talked about it.
1066
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:30,233
Sometimes we got a little
suspicious 'cause, like,
1067
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:33,066
he would just be really quiet
for a long period of time,
1068
00:48:33,133 --> 00:48:36,767
but we just accustomed to it
because he did it a lot.
1069
00:48:36,834 --> 00:48:38,467
He would miss school
every now and then.
1070
00:48:38,533 --> 00:48:40,133
I can tell-- I knew--
I would, like,
1071
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,633
I would tell him
he's on his period,
1072
00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:45,033
because he's, like,
he looks like he-- You know,
1073
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:47,533
he would have a month where
he's just, like, moping around.
1074
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,500
And then he'd have a month
where's he's, like,
1075
00:48:49,567 --> 00:48:50,834
really happy, really happy.
1076
00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:53,000
And he would tell me,
"Listen, the more happy I get,
1077
00:48:53,066 --> 00:48:54,734
the more pissed off
I'm gonna get later."
1078
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,567
AIDAN:
One time, I think,
going out to the roof,
1079
00:48:57,633 --> 00:49:00,400
I remember him sitting
on the ledge, like...
1080
00:49:00,467 --> 00:49:01,667
And it really, like, scared me.
1081
00:49:01,734 --> 00:49:03,567
And he just seemed to be
completely fearless,
1082
00:49:03,633 --> 00:49:07,000
like, almost willing to just
walk-- Like, walk on the edge.
1083
00:49:07,066 --> 00:49:09,567
And I really, like,
kind of yelled at him, like,
1084
00:49:09,633 --> 00:49:11,433
"Get down from the edge,"
you know.
1085
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:13,734
That's, like,
not something you do.
1086
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,967
And it just-- He kind of
distanced himself like that.
1087
00:49:17,033 --> 00:49:18,233
It was almost like showing--
1088
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:20,800
Showing me, like,
"I don't really care."
1089
00:49:20,867 --> 00:49:22,033
We talked about it a little,
1090
00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:23,633
but he always
sort of brushed it away,
1091
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:26,600
and he sort of said,
"But I'm over that now." And...
1092
00:49:26,667 --> 00:49:28,600
We all thought
he was pretty good,
1093
00:49:28,667 --> 00:49:30,100
and he always acted
really great.
1094
00:49:30,166 --> 00:49:32,066
And there were no real signs
of any, like,
1095
00:49:32,133 --> 00:49:33,333
real depression or anything.
1096
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,567
I was totally optimistic
about his health
1097
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,633
and the direction
that he was gonna go.
1098
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:43,300
NICHOLAS:
When I'd come home from school
and spend holidays,
1099
00:49:43,367 --> 00:49:45,467
I remember remarking to myself,
you know,
1100
00:49:45,533 --> 00:49:49,400
"This is a much more warm,
loving household
1101
00:49:49,467 --> 00:49:53,066
then it was two years earlier.
1102
00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:56,066
I guess that's what I saw
after Wellspring,
1103
00:49:56,133 --> 00:49:58,467
that Dana and my father
1104
00:49:58,533 --> 00:50:01,000
really showing him that
1105
00:50:01,066 --> 00:50:05,767
within our family lies
a really strong foundation
1106
00:50:05,834 --> 00:50:07,300
that he can trust.
1107
00:50:07,367 --> 00:50:11,767
And during that time
it really did seem like
1108
00:50:11,834 --> 00:50:15,000
everything was under control.
1109
00:50:15,066 --> 00:50:17,233
[♪♪]
1110
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:23,734
HART:
As the years went by,
after Wellspring,
1111
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,934
and he continued to be
the top student in his class,
1112
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,433
he continued to have
good friends,
1113
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,700
that there weren't
any big issues.
1114
00:50:30,767 --> 00:50:34,300
I thought that maybe
he was cured.
1115
00:50:34,367 --> 00:50:36,400
You know,
maybe he's gonna have a life.
1116
00:50:36,467 --> 00:50:39,200
You know,
I'd go with Evan to visit
1117
00:50:39,266 --> 00:50:41,033
his older brother in college,
1118
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:43,533
and Evan was, like,
looking at college,
1119
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,066
and thinking,
"Well, I can do it.
1120
00:50:46,133 --> 00:50:49,533
I can have a life like this."
1121
00:50:51,467 --> 00:50:53,500
You know,
as the years proceeded,
1122
00:50:53,567 --> 00:50:57,367
I was not thinking that maybe
the telephone was going to ring,
1123
00:50:57,433 --> 00:51:00,600
I was thinking that, "Hey,
this-- This kid is different
1124
00:51:00,667 --> 00:51:03,467
from my brother.
He's got a shot."
1125
00:51:03,533 --> 00:51:05,700
[♪♪]
1126
00:51:07,633 --> 00:51:12,567
My brother-- There'd never
really been a diagnosis.
1127
00:51:12,633 --> 00:51:15,934
He was a successful suicide.
1128
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,967
And that was my big fear
about Evan.
1129
00:51:21,834 --> 00:51:25,567
From an early age,
both Scott and Evan,
1130
00:51:25,633 --> 00:51:29,867
they were overwhelmed
by their emotions.
1131
00:51:29,934 --> 00:51:31,467
With my brother, you know,
1132
00:51:31,533 --> 00:51:34,834
I had learned how to, you know,
be his guide.
1133
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:37,066
You know,
we went to the same school,
1134
00:51:37,133 --> 00:51:38,367
we went to the same college.
1135
00:51:38,433 --> 00:51:39,633
We were very close.
1136
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:42,000
And I'd been
my brother's keeper
1137
00:51:42,066 --> 00:51:46,567
up until the point really where
he started living with Martine,
1138
00:51:46,633 --> 00:51:48,734
his girlfriend.
1139
00:51:49,967 --> 00:51:52,433
WOMAN:
Well, Scott was fun.
1140
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:54,233
He was brilliant.
1141
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:57,800
He was very creative,
he was a great skier,
1142
00:51:57,867 --> 00:52:00,600
he was an athlete.
We went skiing together.
1143
00:52:00,667 --> 00:52:02,400
We really had a lot of fun
1144
00:52:02,467 --> 00:52:05,400
and I was totally seduced
when I met him.
1145
00:52:05,467 --> 00:52:08,633
I knew he was
taking medication all along
1146
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:12,033
and I knew he was
seeing a psychiatrist.
1147
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:14,400
He was getting some help.
1148
00:52:14,467 --> 00:52:17,533
I never really--
I had absolutely no experience
1149
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,133
with depression
before I met Scott.
1150
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,133
So I knew that there was
a problem,
1151
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,033
but I didn't really see it,
1152
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:27,467
because Scott was always
very optimistic,
1153
00:52:27,533 --> 00:52:29,000
and he was very outgoing,
1154
00:52:29,066 --> 00:52:31,100
but I think I was still
noticing something
1155
00:52:31,166 --> 00:52:32,967
after the first year.
1156
00:52:33,033 --> 00:52:36,300
He had mood swings,
he had ups and downs.
1157
00:52:36,367 --> 00:52:39,767
And the second year trying to
kill himself a couple of times
1158
00:52:39,834 --> 00:52:41,200
while he was with me.
1159
00:52:41,266 --> 00:52:43,033
I was supposed to get up
in the morning
1160
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:46,100
and find him dead next to me.
1161
00:52:46,166 --> 00:52:47,867
And he was amazed
when he woke up,
1162
00:52:47,934 --> 00:52:49,266
I assume he didn't take enough.
1163
00:52:49,333 --> 00:52:51,633
You know, he was trying
to overdose with medication
1164
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:55,000
and maybe with drugs-- Heroin.
1165
00:52:55,066 --> 00:52:59,266
After his two attempts, he was
really able to talk about it,
1166
00:52:59,333 --> 00:53:00,500
and communicate about it,
1167
00:53:00,567 --> 00:53:02,300
and I could really understand,
1168
00:53:02,367 --> 00:53:03,767
as much as I could,
1169
00:53:03,834 --> 00:53:06,734
the depth of the desperation.
1170
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,166
He said he was in a hole.
1171
00:53:09,233 --> 00:53:11,633
In a tunnel, in a hole.
There was no way out.
1172
00:53:11,700 --> 00:53:15,000
The pain was...
1173
00:53:15,066 --> 00:53:18,867
so profound, he--
1174
00:53:18,934 --> 00:53:22,367
He could not imagine going on
with it, and living with it,
1175
00:53:22,433 --> 00:53:23,500
even though I was there.
1176
00:53:23,567 --> 00:53:25,033
It did not matter.
1177
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:28,000
Me and his family were not
enough to keep him alive.
1178
00:53:28,066 --> 00:53:32,900
At those moments
of such despair and pain,
1179
00:53:32,967 --> 00:53:36,166
the only way out was to die.
1180
00:53:36,233 --> 00:53:39,200
I don't like to think that maybe
I wasn't really clued in
1181
00:53:39,266 --> 00:53:41,767
to what was going on,
though I probably wasn't,
1182
00:53:41,834 --> 00:53:44,000
because I wasn't willing
to accept the fact
1183
00:53:44,066 --> 00:53:49,934
that, uh, anything so terrifying
to me could be on the way.
1184
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,734
And particularly because Scott
didn't seem like
1185
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,667
an unhappy person.
1186
00:53:56,734 --> 00:54:00,000
All it tells you is that
there is so much more
1187
00:54:00,066 --> 00:54:02,567
to know about people you love
1188
00:54:02,633 --> 00:54:06,200
than you can
ever really uncover.
1189
00:54:06,266 --> 00:54:08,734
DANA:
What happened that weekend
when Scott died?
1190
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,400
I don't know.
1191
00:54:10,467 --> 00:54:13,700
Nope.
I have not the faintest idea.
1192
00:54:13,767 --> 00:54:16,033
Not the faintest idea.
1193
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:17,300
DANA:
You found him.
1194
00:54:17,367 --> 00:54:18,834
What, what?
You found him
1195
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:20,867
"Who found him"?
You found him.
1196
00:54:20,934 --> 00:54:23,500
I found him?
1197
00:54:23,567 --> 00:54:27,166
I don't remember doing that.
No.
1198
00:54:27,233 --> 00:54:31,867
What's more, I think I can
get along without memory.
1199
00:54:31,934 --> 00:54:34,667
I don't remember at all.
1200
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:36,700
[♪♪]
1201
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,867
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
1202
00:54:44,066 --> 00:54:47,166
MARTINE:
I think it was a Saturday.
1203
00:54:47,233 --> 00:54:50,066
We came for the weekend
up here.
1204
00:54:50,133 --> 00:54:51,700
Fourth of July weekend.
1205
00:54:51,767 --> 00:54:53,967
Scott was totally normal.
1206
00:54:54,033 --> 00:54:57,166
Fun, nice.
1207
00:54:57,233 --> 00:55:00,367
Suddenly, we-- You know,
it was a beautiful afternoon,
1208
00:55:00,433 --> 00:55:03,734
and we said, "Where is Scott?"
1209
00:55:04,867 --> 00:55:07,934
Scott was not around.
1210
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,166
I knew something was wrong.
1211
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:19,800
Because I knew
that the caretaker had guns.
1212
00:55:19,867 --> 00:55:21,567
And Scott knew that he had guns.
1213
00:55:21,633 --> 00:55:26,266
So I went there and Beati went
in another direction.
1214
00:55:26,333 --> 00:55:28,567
I couldn't get inside the house
because it was locked.
1215
00:55:28,633 --> 00:55:29,967
I don't exactly remember,
1216
00:55:30,033 --> 00:55:32,266
but I knew he didn't have
the guns.
1217
00:55:32,333 --> 00:55:33,834
When I came back
1218
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:37,533
I saw Beati came back,
1219
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,734
and her lipstick was smeared
around her mouth,
1220
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,633
and she said
"I just found Scott."
1221
00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:45,934
And she found him in the jeep--
In the car--
1222
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,300
near the carriage house.
1223
00:55:47,367 --> 00:55:49,500
And what he had done
1224
00:55:49,567 --> 00:55:53,734
was take the hose
from the vacuum cleaner,
1225
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,400
and put the hose
from the exhaust pipe
1226
00:55:56,467 --> 00:55:59,166
inside the car.
1227
00:56:03,667 --> 00:56:06,300
[LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN'S
"MOONLIGHT SONATA" PLAYING]
1228
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,233
HART:
When my brother died,
1229
00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:18,066
I decided to make a film.
1230
00:56:21,667 --> 00:56:24,533
It was too painful for me to,
like,
1231
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,333
really deal with his suicide,
1232
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,767
So I made the film about a, uh,
1233
00:56:30,834 --> 00:56:33,467
sculptor friend of my mother's
who came from Spain
1234
00:56:33,533 --> 00:56:36,667
to make a sculpture
for the grave.
1235
00:56:39,967 --> 00:56:43,900
I documented the process
of making the sculpture.
1236
00:56:43,967 --> 00:56:46,266
And the instillation.
1237
00:56:51,266 --> 00:56:55,066
I thought that maybe in
the course of making the film
1238
00:56:55,133 --> 00:56:59,000
I could find some meaning
about my brother's suicide.
1239
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:13,500
MARTINE:
It took me about seven,
eight years
1240
00:57:13,567 --> 00:57:16,500
to come back to normal.
1241
00:57:16,567 --> 00:57:20,000
I was mutilated when he died.
I was mutilated.
1242
00:57:20,066 --> 00:57:22,500
Half of me was dead.
1243
00:57:22,567 --> 00:57:26,100
Completely dead.
1244
00:57:42,567 --> 00:57:45,867
HART:
My parents were shattered.
1245
00:57:45,934 --> 00:57:49,400
It was like broken glass.
Shattered.
1246
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,900
HART:
What-- What did happen to him?
1247
00:58:00,967 --> 00:58:05,834
Well,
he obviously committed suicide.
1248
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:08,200
HART:
Why do you think he did it?
1249
00:58:08,266 --> 00:58:09,533
"Why did he do it?"
1250
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,533
Well, he was...
1251
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,767
in a terrible state
of depression.
1252
00:58:15,834 --> 00:58:19,000
What brought on the depression,
I don't know.
1253
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,000
I don't know. I don't know.
1254
00:58:36,133 --> 00:58:38,567
I can't tell you.
1255
00:58:45,533 --> 00:58:47,600
I can't tell you.
1256
00:58:47,667 --> 00:58:50,500
I can't tell you.
The words don't exist
1257
00:58:50,567 --> 00:58:54,567
to tell another person
1258
00:58:54,633 --> 00:58:57,800
how destroyed
1259
00:58:57,867 --> 00:58:59,934
part of you has been.
1260
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,467
They just don't exist.
1261
00:59:01,533 --> 00:59:03,633
I can't tell you.
But I can tell you
1262
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:06,400
that it's something
you never recover from.
1263
00:59:07,767 --> 00:59:11,633
What is true
is that life goes on,
1264
00:59:11,700 --> 00:59:13,467
but not the way
you wanted it to,
1265
00:59:13,533 --> 00:59:16,667
and not the way
you planned for it to.
1266
00:59:16,734 --> 00:59:19,367
But you don't recover.
1267
00:59:19,433 --> 00:59:21,300
I don't think.
1268
00:59:21,367 --> 00:59:23,533
[♪♪]
1269
00:59:28,367 --> 00:59:30,467
[BIRD CAWING]
1270
00:59:39,567 --> 00:59:41,700
HART:
I thought if Evan
was going to kill himself,
1271
00:59:41,767 --> 00:59:45,000
it'd be similar to my
experience with my brother.
1272
00:59:45,066 --> 00:59:48,767
It was like a slow decline.
1273
00:59:48,834 --> 00:59:52,867
But Evan seemed to be
actually doing pretty well.
1274
00:59:52,934 --> 00:59:55,700
What can I get you?
BOY: I want a beer.
1275
00:59:55,767 --> 00:59:58,266
Light?
Yeah.
1276
00:59:58,333 --> 01:00:00,600
[BOY BELCHES]
1277
01:00:00,667 --> 01:00:02,133
Ha-ha.
1278
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:05,066
So why are you
out so late?
1279
01:00:05,133 --> 01:00:07,500
Well, I've just seen
a Kiss concert, man.
1280
01:00:07,567 --> 01:00:10,033
Kiss rules!
Kiss rocks!
1281
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:12,567
[BOTH YELLING INDISTINCTLY]
1282
01:00:12,633 --> 01:00:14,800
HART:
That's good,
now watch him leave.
1283
01:00:14,867 --> 01:00:16,867
Hey, hey, hey.
1284
01:00:16,934 --> 01:00:18,367
HART:
He didn't pay.
1285
01:00:18,433 --> 01:00:22,000
Yeah. I just went like, "Hey!"
1286
01:00:22,066 --> 01:00:23,600
HART:
Run, run, Mike.
1287
01:00:23,667 --> 01:00:25,467
Run, Evan.
1288
01:00:25,533 --> 01:00:27,667
You know, I mean,
Evan was never, you know,
1289
01:00:27,734 --> 01:00:31,567
like an over-the-top,
effervescent, happy kid.
1290
01:00:31,633 --> 01:00:34,834
But from all the-- The markers:
1291
01:00:34,900 --> 01:00:37,367
Is he getting into trouble? No.
1292
01:00:37,433 --> 01:00:38,967
Not at all.
1293
01:00:39,033 --> 01:00:40,800
Can you do the fish?
1294
01:00:40,867 --> 01:00:42,867
The fish!
Like this.
1295
01:00:42,934 --> 01:00:45,934
I can do the snake.
Like that.
1296
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,633
I can do the seashell.
1297
01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:49,200
HART:
Have we seen the police?
1298
01:00:49,266 --> 01:00:50,834
And we certainly
did see the police
1299
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:53,800
for a number of occasions
before Wellspring.
1300
01:00:53,867 --> 01:00:55,166
No police.
1301
01:00:55,233 --> 01:00:57,333
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
1302
01:00:58,767 --> 01:01:00,600
Take it with me.
1303
01:01:00,667 --> 01:01:04,266
DANA:
Evan was doing so well.
It was like a miracle.
1304
01:01:04,333 --> 01:01:07,700
We couldn't believe it.
You just couldn't believe it.
1305
01:01:09,533 --> 01:01:12,500
Is this the same kid? I mean,
here he is, and he's growing,
1306
01:01:12,567 --> 01:01:15,433
and he's popular, and he has
his lovely friends,
1307
01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:17,767
and they have a wonderful time.
1308
01:01:17,834 --> 01:01:19,333
Suddenly there's hair there
1309
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,834
and his jaw gets firmer
and he's taller than I am.
1310
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:24,900
And he's a man.
He's a young man.
1311
01:01:24,967 --> 01:01:27,100
Very handsome,
very popular with the girls.
1312
01:01:27,166 --> 01:01:29,633
But not really
all that interested in them.
1313
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:31,767
His voice went from
like this to like this.
1314
01:01:31,834 --> 01:01:34,000
Like, you're--
You're in the shot.
1315
01:01:34,066 --> 01:01:35,266
Like--
1316
01:01:35,333 --> 01:01:36,600
[ALL LAUGHING]
1317
01:01:39,467 --> 01:01:41,533
Like,
let's worry about the door shot,
1318
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,200
let's do that
when I'm not filming.
1319
01:01:43,233 --> 01:01:45,033
BOY:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, do the shot.
1320
01:01:45,133 --> 01:01:47,834
You know, like after he comes in
you can do that--
1321
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:49,100
BOY:
All right.
1322
01:01:49,166 --> 01:01:50,767
DANA:
He really hated being sick.
1323
01:01:50,834 --> 01:01:53,600
GIRL:
We went-- We were like--
Did you hear us yelling outside?
1324
01:01:53,667 --> 01:01:54,967
We were like, "Evan!"
1325
01:01:55,033 --> 01:01:56,600
Three E, 3W, whatever.
1326
01:01:56,667 --> 01:01:57,867
He didn't wanna be different.
1327
01:01:57,934 --> 01:01:59,066
What teenage boy does?
1328
01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:00,567
Yeah,
so I'll see you guys later.
1329
01:02:00,633 --> 01:02:02,567
In, like, half an hour.
I just have to wait for--
1330
01:02:02,633 --> 01:02:04,500
Okay, it's just Angela's
around the corner.
1331
01:02:04,567 --> 01:02:05,600
All right.
Bye.
1332
01:02:05,667 --> 01:02:07,400
I'll see you soon.
Bye!
1333
01:02:07,467 --> 01:02:09,567
[CHATTER]
1334
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,867
GIRL:
Oh, my gosh, what?
1335
01:02:15,033 --> 01:02:17,000
Oh, are we talking
about this again?
1336
01:02:20,467 --> 01:02:22,767
Are you better now? Yay.
1337
01:02:22,834 --> 01:02:24,333
High five.
1338
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,200
NICHOLAS:
A lot of the time he seemed
really out of it to me.
1339
01:02:27,266 --> 01:02:30,800
And I really attributed that
to his drugs.
1340
01:02:30,867 --> 01:02:34,066
'Cause I remember going through
a turnstile door with him
1341
01:02:34,133 --> 01:02:36,734
and him sort of just
stopping in the middle,
1342
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,266
or not really paying attention
1343
01:02:38,333 --> 01:02:39,934
to what was going on
around him,
1344
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,433
and I'd stop and say
"What is it with this kid?"
1345
01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:44,867
And I'd say, "Oh, well,
he's taking lithium."
1346
01:02:44,934 --> 01:02:46,900
DANA:
We had been talking for a while
1347
01:02:46,967 --> 01:02:48,967
about trying
without the medication,
1348
01:02:49,033 --> 01:02:51,000
'cause it made him tired,
it made his mouth dry,
1349
01:02:51,066 --> 01:02:53,500
it was really something
he didn't wanna do.
1350
01:02:53,567 --> 01:02:56,066
So we said "Okay.
1351
01:02:56,133 --> 01:02:59,633
You know, you--
You really wanna try this?"
1352
01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:01,033
And he really did.
1353
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:03,367
And the doctor said, "Okay."
1354
01:03:03,433 --> 01:03:07,133
So he gradually went down
in the lithium dose
1355
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,834
over a course
of four to six weeks.
1356
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:13,266
LADD:
"March 30th, 2005.
1357
01:03:13,333 --> 01:03:15,333
"Lithium 0.56.
1358
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,667
"Now sub therapeutic.
1359
01:03:17,734 --> 01:03:21,100
"Was 1200 milligrams, didn't
take meds for a few days,
1360
01:03:21,166 --> 01:03:22,800
"became quote 'more talkative.'
1361
01:03:22,867 --> 01:03:26,633
"At first,
decreased lithium was difficult,
1362
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:28,600
"now fine.
1363
01:03:28,667 --> 01:03:32,033
He feels better on lower dose."
1364
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:34,066
After awhile
I wasn't that conv--
1365
01:03:34,133 --> 01:03:35,900
You know, that he really was--
1366
01:03:35,967 --> 01:03:38,133
I mean, I knew he was bipolar,
but--
1367
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,734
He seemed so fine.
1368
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,700
Also, I remember we talked
to him head on,
1369
01:03:43,767 --> 01:03:46,967
"Do you have thoughts
of suicide?
1370
01:03:47,033 --> 01:03:49,400
Do you wanna kill yourself?
Do you wanna harm yourself?"
1371
01:03:49,467 --> 01:03:51,934
And he said no, you know.
1372
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,867
"I don't."
1373
01:03:53,934 --> 01:03:55,100
[♪♪]
1374
01:03:57,300 --> 01:04:00,633
WOMAN:
Kids know that if they say
certain things,
1375
01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:03,834
or if they do certain things,
they're gonna be stopped.
1376
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:05,633
You know.
Especially if they have parents
1377
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:08,300
who are attentive
to what's going on with them.
1378
01:04:08,367 --> 01:04:11,867
So if a kid really
doesn't wanna be stopped,
1379
01:04:11,934 --> 01:04:14,433
he's not gonna say anything.
1380
01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:16,934
Evan may have gotten to
the point where he got really--
1381
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,800
Just better
at masking it externally.
1382
01:04:19,867 --> 01:04:23,633
But internally,
it's a lot of suffering,
1383
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:25,400
and this was just
the beginning, I mean,
1384
01:04:25,467 --> 01:04:27,433
it started when he was
much younger,
1385
01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:30,633
and it wasn't going away.
1386
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:33,867
HART:
We went on vacation
for two weeks in Nantucket.
1387
01:04:33,934 --> 01:04:37,000
And he seemed depressed.
He seemed subdued.
1388
01:04:37,066 --> 01:04:38,600
Didn't seem too happy.
1389
01:04:38,633 --> 01:04:41,467
He wasn't doing good.
1390
01:04:41,533 --> 01:04:43,266
DANA:
Then school started.
1391
01:04:43,333 --> 01:04:46,367
He's sullen, he's depressed.
1392
01:04:46,433 --> 01:04:49,000
As the weeks unfolded
in September,
1393
01:04:49,066 --> 01:04:51,200
he started getting more anxious
about his homework.
1394
01:04:51,266 --> 01:04:54,166
And at one point, he came to me
and he said very seriously,
1395
01:04:54,233 --> 01:04:55,934
"Mom, I need your help.
1396
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,000
I need you to stay after me."
1397
01:04:59,066 --> 01:05:01,800
HART:
We had contacted
his psychiatrist
1398
01:05:01,867 --> 01:05:04,934
and tried to make a meeting
as soon as possible
1399
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,900
to increase his dose
of lithium.
1400
01:05:07,967 --> 01:05:10,166
DANA:
We said, "Let's get him back
on the lithium,
1401
01:05:10,233 --> 01:05:11,867
this experiment didn't work."
1402
01:05:11,934 --> 01:05:13,800
So we made an appointment
with the doctor
1403
01:05:13,867 --> 01:05:17,467
for the following Tuesday.
October 4th.
1404
01:05:17,533 --> 01:05:19,700
[♪♪]
1405
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,367
ADAM:
We hung out with him
that Friday night.
1406
01:05:24,433 --> 01:05:27,900
We went to another teen club,
me and Nick.
1407
01:05:27,967 --> 01:05:31,233
We invited Evan to go,
but he just didn't want to.
1408
01:05:31,300 --> 01:05:33,333
I mean, it might've been
his curfew or whatever,
1409
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,700
he just didn't wanna go.
1410
01:05:34,767 --> 01:05:37,066
And we didn't think it was
that big of a deal.
1411
01:05:37,133 --> 01:05:38,433
We were just like,
"Whatever,
1412
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:41,100
he wants to go home and chill,
so..."
1413
01:05:41,166 --> 01:05:43,333
There was nothing
really beforehand
1414
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,967
that we could've seen.
1415
01:05:45,033 --> 01:05:47,367
I think if, like,
1416
01:05:47,433 --> 01:05:50,000
if someone is that sure
1417
01:05:50,066 --> 01:05:51,700
that they wanna do that
to themselves,
1418
01:05:51,767 --> 01:05:54,633
they're gonna hide it
from someone, you know.
1419
01:05:58,033 --> 01:06:01,033
NICHOLAS:
The night he died
I came over for dinner.
1420
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:03,900
It was a Sunday evening.
1421
01:06:03,967 --> 01:06:05,166
We were all eating together,
1422
01:06:05,233 --> 01:06:09,633
and I know Evan had some
homework that was unfinished,
1423
01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:12,834
and he was...
1424
01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:14,467
being a little obnoxious
1425
01:06:14,533 --> 01:06:16,133
about not wanting
to do his homework,
1426
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,667
and started putting his feet
on the table,
1427
01:06:18,734 --> 01:06:22,333
and, you know, his mom was
nagging him about his homework.
1428
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,900
And they had a tiff.
1429
01:06:24,967 --> 01:06:26,767
And he was mad.
1430
01:06:26,834 --> 01:06:29,367
The fight was very intense.
1431
01:06:29,433 --> 01:06:30,734
As it often was.
1432
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,533
And, um, you know,
really just deeply intense.
1433
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,734
I was doing the dishes,
and I was hot.
1434
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,166
You know. I was tired of this.
1435
01:06:39,233 --> 01:06:42,967
And he goes up the stairs
and he said, "Mom, I hate you."
1436
01:06:43,033 --> 01:06:46,000
HART:
And he shuts the door.
And he locks it.
1437
01:06:46,066 --> 01:06:50,200
NICHOLAS:
Leaving that night,
I didn't think anything of it.
1438
01:06:50,266 --> 01:06:54,200
He wasn't behaving in any way
that would make me think,
1439
01:06:54,266 --> 01:06:57,533
"This child is gonna
end his life tonight."
1440
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,000
Not in a million,
million, million years.
1441
01:07:01,066 --> 01:07:03,967
I mean, on my good days
1442
01:07:04,033 --> 01:07:06,800
I've acted worse
than him at dinner.
1443
01:07:06,867 --> 01:07:08,867
By this time it's around 10:00,
1444
01:07:08,934 --> 01:07:13,100
and I went into our bedroom
with Mikey,
1445
01:07:13,166 --> 01:07:14,667
and we're both reading.
1446
01:07:14,734 --> 01:07:16,900
I was reading for a little bit,
1447
01:07:16,967 --> 01:07:19,900
and I go to check in on Evan.
1448
01:07:19,967 --> 01:07:21,166
And he's unlocked the door.
1449
01:07:21,233 --> 01:07:23,867
I go in he's sitting
in his underwear
1450
01:07:23,934 --> 01:07:26,667
on his bed with his computer
1451
01:07:26,734 --> 01:07:28,600
And, you know,
I came over and I said,
1452
01:07:28,667 --> 01:07:32,834
"Well, how you doing?
What's-- What's happening?"
1453
01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:35,333
And he said, "I'm fine, Dad.
1454
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,700
I'm doing my homework."
1455
01:07:37,767 --> 01:07:40,166
His computer,
it looked as though he was
1456
01:07:40,233 --> 01:07:41,967
doing his homework,
1457
01:07:42,033 --> 01:07:44,934
so I go back to read with Mikey
1458
01:07:45,033 --> 01:07:49,300
for another five minutes,
and, uh,
1459
01:07:49,367 --> 01:07:51,367
you know, it's Mikey's bedtime.
1460
01:07:51,433 --> 01:07:53,600
So I bring Mikey into the room
1461
01:07:53,667 --> 01:07:57,433
and Evan's not there.
1462
01:07:57,500 --> 01:07:59,333
[♪♪]
1463
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,033
I immediately thought that
he had jumped out the window.
1464
01:08:04,667 --> 01:08:08,567
But it was an airshaft so you
couldn't really see anything.
1465
01:08:10,667 --> 01:08:14,066
Mikey shows up with this
little penlight
1466
01:08:14,133 --> 01:08:15,767
and I shine it down the shaft,
1467
01:08:15,834 --> 01:08:19,033
and I think I see something
but it's hard to tell.
1468
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:21,700
Uh, and I'm starting to,
you know,
1469
01:08:21,767 --> 01:08:24,166
feel pretty concerned
at this point,
1470
01:08:24,233 --> 01:08:27,400
and I run downstairs
to find the super,
1471
01:08:27,467 --> 01:08:30,533
who had access to the airshaft.
1472
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,100
I guess I was downstairs and,
uh,
1473
01:08:34,166 --> 01:08:37,834
about to recline and watch TV
1474
01:08:37,900 --> 01:08:40,667
and I was, uh,
half asleep, I guess.
1475
01:08:40,734 --> 01:08:43,400
And nothing unusual,
1476
01:08:43,467 --> 01:08:45,934
I just heard a noise.
1477
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,200
And I thought nothing of it.
1478
01:08:48,266 --> 01:08:52,066
I thought maybe the girl
upstairs dropped something.
1479
01:08:52,133 --> 01:08:53,867
Nothing. Nothing.
1480
01:08:53,934 --> 01:08:57,533
And I guess, I don't know
how many minutes later,
1481
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,066
uh, somebody came banging on--
Was banging on my door.
1482
01:09:01,133 --> 01:09:03,700
We were with Roger,
we had the light.
1483
01:09:03,767 --> 01:09:06,867
I had, um,
a cell phone and keys.
1484
01:09:06,934 --> 01:09:09,667
And, uh, we went through this
labyrinth, some kind of way.
1485
01:09:09,734 --> 01:09:13,033
And Hart got there first.
And, um, and Evan was there.
1486
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:16,734
And, um, he was on his back,
1487
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,133
and there was blood.
1488
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,934
I thought he might be alive.
1489
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:26,033
But I-- I felt his pulse,
and he wasn't.
1490
01:09:32,166 --> 01:09:34,233
So it got pretty chaotic.
1491
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:35,800
I was screaming, "Evan, Evan,
1492
01:09:35,867 --> 01:09:38,133
Evan, Evan, Evan, Evan!"
1493
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,233
You know,
"Evan." I just-- "Please."
1494
01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:43,700
And I went--
And Hart was in front of me,
1495
01:09:43,767 --> 01:09:47,400
and I said, "Get out of the way,
I wanna give him mouth-to-mouth,
1496
01:09:47,467 --> 01:09:49,834
I wanna-- Move out of the way."
1497
01:09:49,900 --> 01:09:52,600
And he said, "Dana, just go--
1498
01:09:52,667 --> 01:09:55,266
The paramedics are coming, go
upstairs, take care of Michael,
1499
01:09:55,333 --> 01:09:57,633
take care of-- It's okay.
And he was very calm.
1500
01:09:57,700 --> 01:09:59,600
I called Nick
1501
01:09:59,667 --> 01:10:03,166
to come and look after
1502
01:10:03,233 --> 01:10:05,033
Mikey and Dana,
1503
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:09,266
'cause I had to go to
the hospital with-- With Evan.
1504
01:10:09,333 --> 01:10:10,600
I was there comforting Michael,
1505
01:10:10,667 --> 01:10:12,266
and we were praying
and I thought
1506
01:10:12,333 --> 01:10:13,800
that maybe he'd still live,
1507
01:10:13,867 --> 01:10:16,934
maybe he's just broken
some bones, maybe he'll live.
1508
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,200
And, um, at some point,
1509
01:10:18,266 --> 01:10:19,700
I don't know when,
but Nick showed up.
1510
01:10:19,767 --> 01:10:22,333
NICHOLAS:
We pulled up
in front of the house,
1511
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,767
there were police cars outside,
1512
01:10:23,834 --> 01:10:26,400
it was, like, "This is
fucking real. This is real."
1513
01:10:26,467 --> 01:10:28,633
And I walked into the apartment,
1514
01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:32,433
and there were
police officers downstairs.
1515
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:34,066
You know, they looked at me
1516
01:10:34,133 --> 01:10:36,867
and started approaching me to
say, you know, "Who are you?"
1517
01:10:36,934 --> 01:10:40,433
And I pushed them out of the way
and just ran to Dana.
1518
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:42,567
And Michael was so amazing,
'cause he kept saying,
1519
01:10:42,633 --> 01:10:45,166
"Mom, he's gonna be okay,
Mom, he's gonna be okay.
1520
01:10:45,233 --> 01:10:47,900
Mom, he's gonna be okay,
Mom, he's gonna be okay."
1521
01:10:47,967 --> 01:10:50,266
And we're just holding each
other, and then, you know,
1522
01:10:50,333 --> 01:10:53,100
then Hart called
and I just knew immediately--
1523
01:10:53,166 --> 01:10:55,467
Just knew immediately
what happened, that he was dead.
1524
01:10:55,533 --> 01:10:57,934
I just couldn't believe it.
1525
01:10:59,900 --> 01:11:02,767
So then, um, Jean drove me
to the hospital,
1526
01:11:02,834 --> 01:11:06,033
and he was at St. Vincent's,
where he had been before,
1527
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:09,567
and I was taken
into the room where he was,
1528
01:11:09,633 --> 01:11:12,233
on the stretcher, and, um--
1529
01:11:18,066 --> 01:11:21,266
Um, you know, he wasn't cold,
and he had his, um,
1530
01:11:21,333 --> 01:11:22,600
he had his boxer shorts on.
1531
01:11:22,667 --> 01:11:25,333
I took the sheet down like this,
I held him,
1532
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,367
and, um, I closed his eyes.
1533
01:11:28,433 --> 01:11:30,533
And that was it.
1534
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:35,900
And then...
1535
01:11:35,967 --> 01:11:39,233
I got a call in the car
1536
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:42,200
from Nick,
1537
01:11:42,266 --> 01:11:45,567
and he said, "I found his note.
1538
01:11:45,633 --> 01:11:46,700
I found his note."
1539
01:11:46,767 --> 01:11:48,934
[♪♪]
1540
01:11:50,433 --> 01:11:53,800
NICHOLAS:
I remember the officers
asking me
1541
01:11:53,867 --> 01:11:55,633
whether there was
a suicide note,
1542
01:11:55,700 --> 01:11:58,433
and I hadn't even
thought about that,
1543
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:01,300
and we looked around his room,
1544
01:12:01,367 --> 01:12:04,066
and there was nothing, and then
he pointed to the computer,
1545
01:12:04,133 --> 01:12:07,633
and opened it,
touched the screen,
1546
01:12:07,700 --> 01:12:10,333
and, sure enough,
1547
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,500
a letter came up.
1548
01:12:13,567 --> 01:12:15,700
[♪♪]
1549
01:13:25,333 --> 01:13:26,400
To be honest,
1550
01:13:26,467 --> 01:13:30,367
the gist of the letter was...
1551
01:13:30,433 --> 01:13:33,400
what every fucking 15-year-old
1552
01:13:33,467 --> 01:13:35,233
thinks about themself.
1553
01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:38,066
That "I'm not good enough,
1554
01:13:38,133 --> 01:13:40,600
"no one likes me,
1555
01:13:40,667 --> 01:13:43,166
things won't get better."
1556
01:13:43,233 --> 01:13:46,367
The difference
is Evan felt that
1557
01:13:46,433 --> 01:13:49,100
20,000 times stronger
1558
01:13:49,166 --> 01:13:51,500
than any normal 15-year-old,
1559
01:13:51,567 --> 01:13:55,100
and he believed more strongly
1560
01:13:55,166 --> 01:13:56,667
that things wouldn't get better
1561
01:13:56,734 --> 01:13:58,633
and that there was no future,
1562
01:13:58,700 --> 01:14:03,333
and living was too painful,
1563
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,233
too difficult, and...
1564
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:10,667
death was his only answer.
1565
01:14:10,734 --> 01:14:13,367
But it was, I mean, verbatim--
1566
01:14:13,467 --> 01:14:17,367
I could've checked off
that list and, you know,
1567
01:14:17,467 --> 01:14:21,567
if he had showed me that note
before he made his decision,
1568
01:14:21,667 --> 01:14:23,500
I could've gone through it
with him and said,
1569
01:14:23,567 --> 01:14:26,667
"Thought that, thought that,
thought that.
1570
01:14:26,734 --> 01:14:29,266
"I realized they're all
untrue for me,
1571
01:14:29,367 --> 01:14:33,266
"they're definitely
all untrue for you.
1572
01:14:33,333 --> 01:14:36,066
"You know, and some of
the qualities about yourself
1573
01:14:36,133 --> 01:14:37,834
"that make you feel
different right now,
1574
01:14:37,900 --> 01:14:39,734
"you're gonna learn
in five years
1575
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,333
"that those are your
best qualities,
1576
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,700
"and those are what
set you apart from people
1577
01:14:44,767 --> 01:14:46,166
"and make you interesting
1578
01:14:46,233 --> 01:14:50,000
and attract others to you."
1579
01:14:50,066 --> 01:14:53,433
But, you know,
1580
01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:56,967
that opportunity did not arise.
1581
01:15:06,166 --> 01:15:08,700
So,
what do you make of that?
1582
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:12,467
I think
1583
01:15:12,533 --> 01:15:16,066
that he foresaw--
1584
01:15:16,133 --> 01:15:17,700
He must have been getting
1585
01:15:17,767 --> 01:15:21,233
a glimpse of adult life,
1586
01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:23,433
and that he foresaw
1587
01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:26,433
that he was not going to make it
1588
01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:28,600
in the way that he
wanted to make it.
1589
01:15:29,633 --> 01:15:32,500
You know, in psychiatry,
1590
01:15:32,567 --> 01:15:34,266
bipolar is our cancer.
1591
01:15:34,333 --> 01:15:36,166
It kills people.
1592
01:15:36,233 --> 01:15:39,233
You do everything you can,
and some people can be saved,
1593
01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:41,000
and probably we could've saved--
1594
01:15:41,066 --> 01:15:44,967
Definitely we could've
saved him for a while,
1595
01:15:45,033 --> 01:15:47,433
but he would have gone
off his medication,
1596
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:50,800
They-- All these kids do,
they all go off them.
1597
01:15:50,867 --> 01:15:53,900
And when he went off,
he just went so fast.
1598
01:15:53,967 --> 01:15:55,834
Maybe his illness was changing
1599
01:15:55,900 --> 01:15:58,867
into the type where people
really do get crazy.
1600
01:15:58,934 --> 01:16:00,333
He never talked
about any of this?
1601
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,367
Any of that.
No.
1602
01:16:01,433 --> 01:16:03,233
No? He never talked--?
Any of that.
1603
01:16:03,300 --> 01:16:05,700
He denied feeling it, he never
talked about any of this.
1604
01:16:05,767 --> 01:16:09,734
Never did he say anything like
he didn't trust his friends?
1605
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,633
But this is crazy talk.
That's crazy talk.
1606
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:13,433
HART: I mean, you know...
Crazy talk,
1607
01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:14,633
but it's done so sanely.
1608
01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:17,233
Numbered, and so precise.
1609
01:16:17,300 --> 01:16:20,967
That's what makes me so mad
with all the portrayals of, uh,
1610
01:16:21,033 --> 01:16:24,667
mental illness that you see
on TV and movies,
1611
01:16:24,734 --> 01:16:28,734
it's like raving, crazy,
foaming at the mouth,
1612
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,033
not, you know,
"sanely" sitting there--
1613
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:36,500
Hyper-sanely-- typing this,
you know, horrible thing out.
1614
01:16:36,567 --> 01:16:37,900
Ch, ch, ch, ch, ch.
1615
01:16:37,967 --> 01:16:41,533
Just with thought, already
knowing he was gonna do it.
1616
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,166
You know, that's insanity.
1617
01:16:44,233 --> 01:16:46,400
[♪♪]
1618
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,567
[THUNDER CRASHES]
1619
01:17:45,066 --> 01:17:48,867
On behalf of the congregation
of this church
1620
01:17:48,934 --> 01:17:50,567
I would like to welcome
all of you
1621
01:17:50,633 --> 01:17:54,533
in mourning the passing
of Evan today.
1622
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,900
This is a place...
1623
01:17:56,967 --> 01:17:58,867
MARTINE:
When I went to Evan's funeral,
1624
01:17:58,934 --> 01:18:03,266
I felt that I was going through
the same thing again,
1625
01:18:03,333 --> 01:18:05,667
it was like a repeat.
It was the same church,
1626
01:18:05,734 --> 01:18:08,200
it was the same family.
1627
01:18:08,266 --> 01:18:12,600
It was that little boy,
35 years later.
1628
01:18:12,667 --> 01:18:14,667
And Beati was with me.
1629
01:18:14,734 --> 01:18:18,834
Scott's mother--
And Evan's grandmother,
1630
01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:21,066
and Hart's mother--
was sitting next to me
1631
01:18:21,133 --> 01:18:23,400
and hold-- Hanging onto me,
1632
01:18:23,467 --> 01:18:25,633
and she would say
during the ceremony,
1633
01:18:25,700 --> 01:18:28,433
she would say,
"Martine, why did Scott die?
1634
01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:30,166
Why did Scott kill himself?"
1635
01:18:30,233 --> 01:18:33,233
And, you know,
she knew that she had a son
1636
01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:35,166
who committed suicide,
1637
01:18:35,233 --> 01:18:39,200
and who died,
but she could not remember.
1638
01:18:39,266 --> 01:18:41,367
[CONGREGATION PRAYING]
1639
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,667
I was briefly
trying to explain to her
1640
01:18:48,734 --> 01:18:51,800
that it was the same disease,
1641
01:18:51,867 --> 01:18:55,000
that he died for the same
reasons Evan died.
1642
01:18:55,066 --> 01:18:58,166
I feel relieved to know
that Evan has found peace,
1643
01:18:58,233 --> 01:19:00,967
even if it means
that we must take on pain.
1644
01:19:01,033 --> 01:19:03,233
Through his memory we realize
1645
01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:06,734
the extreme precariousness
and preciousness of life.
1646
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,633
We must cherish and savor
the lives we have,
1647
01:19:09,700 --> 01:19:11,600
the relationships we enjoy,
1648
01:19:11,667 --> 01:19:16,033
as much as we can
for as long as we can.
1649
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:18,200
[SOFT MUSIC PLAYING]
1650
01:19:22,266 --> 01:19:25,533
♪ May God bless
And keep you always ♪
1651
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,533
♪ May your wishes
All come true ♪
1652
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,533
♪ May you always do for others ♪
1653
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,667
♪ That others do for you ♪
1654
01:19:34,734 --> 01:19:37,800
♪ May you build a ladder
To the stars ♪
1655
01:19:37,867 --> 01:19:40,133
♪ Climb on every rung ♪
1656
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,166
♪ May you stay ♪
1657
01:19:45,633 --> 01:19:50,667
BOTH:
♪ Forever young ♪
1658
01:19:50,734 --> 01:19:53,000
A lot of the time,
before I go to sleep,
1659
01:19:53,066 --> 01:19:55,734
sometimes I just, I mean,
1660
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,433
I can't help
but think about him.
1661
01:19:58,500 --> 01:20:00,333
You don't wanna, like,
1662
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,433
make everything depressed
1663
01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:07,033
by talking about it every day,
you know?
1664
01:20:07,133 --> 01:20:10,033
But it's always there, you know.
1665
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:12,233
I mean,
you can't not talk about it.
1666
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:13,500
When I read his note,
1667
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,400
I could tell that it was
spirit of the moment,
1668
01:20:16,467 --> 01:20:18,667
and that, hopefully at least,
1669
01:20:18,734 --> 01:20:21,600
he didn't mean
some of the stuff that he said.
1670
01:20:21,667 --> 01:20:24,633
His note, it didn't come
from the Evan I knew.
1671
01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:27,500
It was just-- It was depressing
1672
01:20:27,567 --> 01:20:31,533
to see, like, just the horrible
stuff he said
1673
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,667
about not having friends, and...
1674
01:20:36,633 --> 01:20:39,600
I know he didn't mean it.
1675
01:20:44,033 --> 01:20:48,066
BOTH:
♪ May you stay ♪
1676
01:20:49,734 --> 01:20:53,100
♪ Forever young ♪
1677
01:20:55,900 --> 01:20:58,533
To thy hands,
oh merciful savior,
1678
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,567
we command thy servant, Evan.
1679
01:21:02,633 --> 01:21:06,467
Receive him into the arms
of thy mercy,
1680
01:21:06,533 --> 01:21:10,433
into the blessed rest
of everlasting peace,
1681
01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:12,734
and into the glorious company
1682
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,600
of the saints in light.
1683
01:21:15,667 --> 01:21:17,734
Amen.
ALL: Amen.
1684
01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:21,667
[♪♪]
1685
01:22:03,633 --> 01:22:05,734
[THUNDER CRASHES]
1686
01:22:19,867 --> 01:22:23,100
They forgot to, uh, dig the--
1687
01:22:23,166 --> 01:22:24,567
MAN:
1688
01:22:24,633 --> 01:22:26,700
Everything but the hole.
1689
01:22:31,633 --> 01:22:34,000
Well, anyway, who would've
told them where to dig it?
1690
01:22:34,066 --> 01:22:36,066
I don't know
how these things work.
1691
01:22:36,133 --> 01:22:38,400
I don't know, you know.
1692
01:22:38,467 --> 01:22:40,233
Somebody has to
mark off where--
1693
01:22:40,300 --> 01:22:43,033
All right, we'll do it,
we'll do it.
1694
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:45,433
[THUNDER CRASHES]
1695
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:47,567
Oh, you.
1696
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:52,700
WOMAN:
1697
01:22:52,767 --> 01:22:54,066
Oh, he's laughing,
all right.
1698
01:22:54,133 --> 01:22:55,667
Mm-hm.
You better believe it.
1699
01:22:55,734 --> 01:22:59,200
He's roaring over this weather.
1700
01:22:59,266 --> 01:23:01,400
He that raised up
Jesus from the dead
1701
01:23:01,467 --> 01:23:04,166
will also give life
to our mortal bodies
1702
01:23:04,233 --> 01:23:08,567
in the sure and certain hope of
the resurrection to eternal life
1703
01:23:08,633 --> 01:23:10,934
through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1704
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,500
We command to almighty God
our brother, Evan,
1705
01:23:14,567 --> 01:23:16,800
and we commit his body
to the ground,
1706
01:23:16,867 --> 01:23:19,533
earth to earth, ashes to ashes,
1707
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,500
dust to dust. Amen.
1708
01:23:22,567 --> 01:23:24,433
ALL:
Amen.
1709
01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:26,700
[♪♪]
1710
01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:46,600
[THUNDER CRASHES]
1711
01:24:01,867 --> 01:24:05,500
MARTINE:
When somebody is that deep
1712
01:24:05,567 --> 01:24:08,400
and far into depression,
1713
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:12,467
in such incredible pain,
there's nothing we can do.
1714
01:24:13,967 --> 01:24:15,867
Nothing.
1715
01:24:19,033 --> 01:24:20,200
BEATRICE:
It's survival--
1716
01:24:20,266 --> 01:24:24,200
Is really very difficult.
1717
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,133
But, anyway,
you do the best you can.
1718
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,367
Why else does he put us there?
1719
01:24:31,433 --> 01:24:33,533
You know that. There isn't any--
1720
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,266
There isn't any choice.
1721
01:24:36,333 --> 01:24:40,834
If you found one, believe me,
deary, pass it along.
1722
01:24:40,900 --> 01:24:45,300
'Cause there is no choice.
1723
01:24:45,367 --> 01:24:48,200
There isn't a choice to cope.
1724
01:24:48,266 --> 01:24:49,934
There isn't.
1725
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,233
I have a family. I have people
I love and people who love me,
1726
01:24:53,300 --> 01:24:56,500
and, uh, you really have
no choice
1727
01:24:56,567 --> 01:24:58,734
but to get up and put one foot
in front of the other.
1728
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,667
And, um, basically,
1729
01:25:02,734 --> 01:25:04,700
I think the thing
that I think about most is, uh,
1730
01:25:04,767 --> 01:25:06,900
is I just can't believe it.
1731
01:25:06,967 --> 01:25:09,100
I can't believe this.
I can't believe it.
1732
01:25:09,166 --> 01:25:10,700
I can't believe
I'm sitting here.
1733
01:25:10,767 --> 01:25:14,800
I can't believe...
1734
01:25:14,867 --> 01:25:18,400
that, um...
1735
01:25:18,467 --> 01:25:22,266
that I gave birth to this boy
and raised him...
1736
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,233
and buried him.
I can't believe it.
1737
01:25:25,300 --> 01:25:26,800
It's just a sense of disbelief.
1738
01:25:26,867 --> 01:25:29,367
I don't know if I'll ever really
understand that it's true.
1739
01:25:29,433 --> 01:25:30,533
That this really happened.
1740
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,133
I can't believe
it really happened.
1741
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:33,400
Tell me it's a dream.
1742
01:25:33,467 --> 01:25:35,367
I can't believe it. I can't.
1743
01:25:35,433 --> 01:25:39,266
And I can't believe
that the days continue to go by,
1744
01:25:39,333 --> 01:25:40,967
and the--
1745
01:25:42,467 --> 01:25:46,533
And that the world
continues to rotate
1746
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,166
without him.
1747
01:25:48,233 --> 01:25:50,333
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
1748
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,633
Oh, nice.
Here, look at that.
1749
01:25:54,700 --> 01:25:57,500
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
1750
01:26:02,967 --> 01:26:05,300
Into the ground again.
1751
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,266
I hope this tree grows
strong and proud,
1752
01:26:12,333 --> 01:26:15,667
and beautiful,
to remind us of Evan.
1753
01:26:15,734 --> 01:26:18,967
And always provide
beauty and shade
1754
01:26:19,033 --> 01:26:21,133
for future generations.
1755
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,200
DANA:
And that every time we see it,
1756
01:26:23,266 --> 01:26:25,633
we'll always think
of how much we loved him,
1757
01:26:25,700 --> 01:26:28,233
and how we'll always
remember him.
1758
01:26:34,300 --> 01:26:39,166
That's the part
that is gonna, I guess, change,
1759
01:26:39,233 --> 01:26:41,200
which is that as time passes
1760
01:26:41,266 --> 01:26:43,033
I'll begin to believe
that it's true,
1761
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:46,934
and that, basically,
what I have left of him
1762
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,800
is those--
The 15 years that we had,
1763
01:26:50,867 --> 01:26:53,533
and, uh...
1764
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,800
that there was beauty in that.
1765
01:26:56,867 --> 01:26:59,333
And joy, and, uh,
1766
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,934
that maybe there's a lesson,
or maybe we can learn something,
1767
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,033
or-- Or communicate something,
but, um,
1768
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:07,800
you know,
in terms of coping it's just,
1769
01:27:07,867 --> 01:27:11,000
you know, it's our choice.
1770
01:27:11,066 --> 01:27:13,233
I don't have a choice.
1771
01:27:14,433 --> 01:27:16,266
There is none.
1772
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,000
[♪♪]
1773
01:27:25,500 --> 01:27:26,967
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
1774
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:15,000
DANA:
Even though we lost
this battle,
1775
01:28:15,066 --> 01:28:16,834
we'll never forget
the experience we had
1776
01:28:16,900 --> 01:28:18,533
at Wellspring.
1777
01:28:20,567 --> 01:28:22,166
[MAN GRUNTING]
1778
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,467
HART:
I volunteered to make beams
1779
01:28:27,533 --> 01:28:29,900
for the barn at Wellspring.
1780
01:28:32,667 --> 01:28:34,900
By the farm and sawmill.
1781
01:28:34,967 --> 01:28:39,700
And it was a way of giving
something back to Wellspring,
1782
01:28:39,767 --> 01:28:42,066
that had given us so much.
1783
01:28:47,734 --> 01:28:49,433
[SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY]
1784
01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:51,767
DANA:
And that's gonna be a building
where other kids
1785
01:28:51,834 --> 01:28:56,333
are gonna be able to get the
kind of therapy that Evan got.
1786
01:28:59,767 --> 01:29:03,433
These beams here,
these are ours.
1787
01:29:03,500 --> 01:29:05,800
All the side beams,
1788
01:29:05,867 --> 01:29:09,500
and look at that inscription
over there.
1789
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,967
DANA:
Here was an opportunity
to make something physical
1790
01:29:25,033 --> 01:29:26,367
in memory of Evan.
1791
01:29:30,166 --> 01:29:32,467
People can say, "Well,
who's Evan?" It doesn't matter.
1792
01:29:32,533 --> 01:29:37,467
What matters is,
is that, you know,
1793
01:29:37,533 --> 01:29:42,367
somebody loved Evan enough to...
1794
01:29:42,433 --> 01:29:45,867
want to remember his name.
1795
01:29:45,934 --> 01:29:47,934
[♪♪]
1796
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,100
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
1797
01:30:02,233 --> 01:30:04,867
[MAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY
IN THE DISTANCE]
1798
01:30:08,834 --> 01:30:12,533
MAN:
So we come thanking God
for what he has blessed,
1799
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,800
for the sacredness of this land,
1800
01:30:14,867 --> 01:30:16,767
asking that God will continue
to watch over
1801
01:30:16,834 --> 01:30:20,166
everyone who works here and all
those who've been part of it.
1802
01:30:20,233 --> 01:30:22,333
[APPLAUSE]
1803
01:30:25,500 --> 01:30:27,600
[CHATTER]
1804
01:30:41,633 --> 01:30:43,800
[♪♪]
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