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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,166 --> 00:00:33,100 HART [CHUCKLES]: No, I can't shoot this. 2 00:00:33,166 --> 00:00:34,700 This is private. This is private. 3 00:00:34,767 --> 00:00:36,433 This is not important to show. Okay. 4 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:38,333 Clear the way. 5 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,633 Here we go. 6 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:41,867 [♪♪] 7 00:00:41,934 --> 00:00:43,500 Good morning, world. 8 00:00:43,567 --> 00:00:45,233 Good morning, Evan. 9 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:47,367 Mikey. Get a shot of Mike. 10 00:00:47,433 --> 00:00:49,166 Good morning, Mike. 11 00:00:49,233 --> 00:00:50,200 Good morning, D. 12 00:00:50,266 --> 00:00:51,367 DANA: Good morning. 13 00:00:51,433 --> 00:00:52,900 EVAN: Good morning, Michael. 14 00:00:52,967 --> 00:00:55,400 HART: So, Evan, where do you want me to stand for the shot? 15 00:00:55,467 --> 00:00:57,100 EVAN: Uh... 16 00:00:57,166 --> 00:00:59,300 Where do you want me to stand? 17 00:00:59,367 --> 00:01:01,433 Right here? EVAN: A little back. 18 00:01:01,500 --> 00:01:03,133 Take another step back? Yeah. 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,300 Big step back. Oh, no. 20 00:01:07,333 --> 00:01:09,700 Oh, I'm so mad now. 21 00:01:09,767 --> 00:01:11,000 Oh. 22 00:01:11,066 --> 00:01:13,100 EVAN: We'll see you later. 23 00:01:13,166 --> 00:01:15,767 [HUMMING] 24 00:01:15,834 --> 00:01:17,533 Whoo... 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,967 Look at the sky. 26 00:01:20,033 --> 00:01:22,467 EVAN: Okay, I'll interview you, Mom. 27 00:01:22,533 --> 00:01:23,567 Okay, hi. 28 00:01:23,633 --> 00:01:24,900 How do you like the trip? 29 00:01:24,967 --> 00:01:26,066 I love this trip, 30 00:01:26,133 --> 00:01:28,400 but I don't love it more than you. 31 00:01:28,467 --> 00:01:30,200 Are you sure? Yeah. 32 00:01:30,266 --> 00:01:32,200 Paradise. I like paradise. 33 00:01:32,266 --> 00:01:33,467 There's Daddy. 34 00:01:33,533 --> 00:01:34,734 EVAN: Dad, Yeah. 35 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,667 what do you think about the trip? 36 00:01:36,734 --> 00:01:38,333 Well, you know, 37 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,333 I'm really glad you asked me that question, Evan. 38 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,367 Since I like this trip so much, 39 00:01:44,433 --> 00:01:45,834 you know what it makes me do? 40 00:01:45,900 --> 00:01:46,934 What? 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,800 It makes me want to jump right over you. 42 00:01:49,867 --> 00:01:51,333 Whoa... 43 00:01:52,834 --> 00:01:55,000 DANA: Very impressive. EVAN: Yes. 44 00:01:56,867 --> 00:01:59,734 So now we're going to get the house. 45 00:02:01,033 --> 00:02:03,867 There's Michael's room. 46 00:02:03,934 --> 00:02:06,700 And we're getting closer to Michael, 47 00:02:06,767 --> 00:02:08,834 the sleeping baby. 48 00:02:12,233 --> 00:02:14,467 How do you like the trip, Michael? 49 00:02:16,533 --> 00:02:19,033 So now you have to meet 50 00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:21,300 the cameraman. 51 00:02:21,367 --> 00:02:24,400 Am I good or am I bad? 52 00:02:24,467 --> 00:02:26,633 We'll have that in... 53 00:02:28,834 --> 00:02:31,000 5.5 seconds. 54 00:02:35,033 --> 00:02:37,200 [♪♪] 55 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:47,400 [SAW BUZZING] 56 00:03:08,367 --> 00:03:10,467 [PROJECTOR CLICKING] 57 00:04:08,567 --> 00:04:09,700 I was at my, uh-- 58 00:04:09,767 --> 00:04:12,333 In my room in my boarding school when my, uh-- 59 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,467 My dad called me 60 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:16,767 and told that Evan had jumped out of the-- 61 00:04:16,834 --> 00:04:18,166 Out of his window. 62 00:04:18,233 --> 00:04:20,400 [♪♪] 63 00:04:27,033 --> 00:04:28,834 [STARTS ENGINE] 64 00:04:44,734 --> 00:04:48,033 It was sort of the third week of school, 65 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:49,500 I think, that he-- 66 00:04:49,567 --> 00:04:52,066 He chose to take his life. 67 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,166 I went into my mother's room 68 00:05:08,233 --> 00:05:10,700 and... 69 00:05:10,767 --> 00:05:13,433 I realized the sentence that had to come out of my mouth. 70 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:14,900 I had to communicate to them 71 00:05:14,967 --> 00:05:17,333 why I was coming in there 72 00:05:17,433 --> 00:05:19,767 and why I was reaching out for them and... 73 00:05:19,834 --> 00:05:21,066 [SNIFFLES] 74 00:05:21,166 --> 00:05:22,700 You know, I had to say, 75 00:05:22,767 --> 00:05:24,600 "Evan's killed himself." 76 00:05:58,867 --> 00:06:01,100 One of the things that you do, I think-- 77 00:06:01,166 --> 00:06:04,900 Or at least that I do unconsciously, 78 00:06:04,967 --> 00:06:09,567 to avoid things that are really too painful to... 79 00:06:09,633 --> 00:06:11,033 confront. 80 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:12,700 --is just black them out. 81 00:06:12,767 --> 00:06:17,433 How-- How can you understand doing that? 82 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:19,533 It doesn't seem possible. 83 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,166 What on Earth has happened to make your son so miserable 84 00:06:23,233 --> 00:06:25,233 that he doesn't want to be there anymore. 85 00:06:25,333 --> 00:06:27,467 [♪♪] 86 00:06:34,867 --> 00:06:36,967 [THUNDER CRASHES] 87 00:07:31,734 --> 00:07:33,900 DANA: We'll never know what was in Evan's head 88 00:07:33,967 --> 00:07:36,066 the night he killed himself. 89 00:07:49,033 --> 00:07:51,433 The mystery will always be 90 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:53,567 what his thought was when he was on the ledge. 91 00:07:53,633 --> 00:07:55,433 You know, as he put one foot over the-- 92 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:56,767 The window, 93 00:07:56,834 --> 00:07:58,100 and made that decision. 94 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,133 Maybe he started to realize that 95 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,166 his mental illness was so powerful 96 00:08:06,233 --> 00:08:08,500 and that he couldn't win. 97 00:08:08,567 --> 00:08:10,567 MAN: "He that raised up Jesus from the dead 98 00:08:10,633 --> 00:08:14,400 "will also give life to our mortal bodies, 99 00:08:14,467 --> 00:08:15,900 "in the sure and certain hope 100 00:08:15,967 --> 00:08:17,967 "of the resurrection to eternal life 101 00:08:18,033 --> 00:08:20,533 "through our Lord Jesus Christ, 102 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,166 "we commend to almighty God our brother Evan, 103 00:08:24,233 --> 00:08:26,533 "and we commit his body to the ground. 104 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,166 "Earth to earth, ashes to ashes, 105 00:08:29,233 --> 00:08:31,033 dust to dust." 106 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:32,133 Amen. 107 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,133 GROUP: Amen. 108 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,500 DANA: How's it possible 109 00:08:35,567 --> 00:08:38,700 that I found myself at his funeral 110 00:08:38,767 --> 00:08:41,100 holding my baby for the last time? 111 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:44,600 [♪♪] [PROJECTOR CLICKING] 112 00:09:01,934 --> 00:09:03,233 The day Evan was born 113 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:05,600 was the happiest day of my life. 114 00:09:10,333 --> 00:09:11,500 It's indescribable. 115 00:09:11,567 --> 00:09:14,300 It-it was indescribable happiness 116 00:09:14,367 --> 00:09:16,800 to finally see him, because when you're pregnant 117 00:09:16,867 --> 00:09:18,767 you start to have a relationship with the baby 118 00:09:18,834 --> 00:09:20,333 and it's, like, moving around and... 119 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,967 You know, who are you? Knock-knock. 120 00:09:22,033 --> 00:09:23,500 Who's there? 121 00:09:25,266 --> 00:09:26,633 And then he comes out and, uh, 122 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:28,767 Evan was particularly pretty. 123 00:09:28,834 --> 00:09:31,633 I just fell in love with him right away. 124 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:33,867 [♪♪] 125 00:09:49,667 --> 00:09:53,000 HART: Well, I actually filmed Evan getting born 126 00:09:53,066 --> 00:09:54,800 and I was very excited. 127 00:09:54,867 --> 00:09:58,033 As I recall, I gave the camera to the doctor 128 00:09:58,100 --> 00:10:00,900 and he did a shot also. 129 00:10:05,367 --> 00:10:07,900 DANA: I was 26 when Evan was born. 130 00:10:07,967 --> 00:10:09,934 Hart was 42, he already had a son 131 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,700 from a previous relationship. 132 00:10:11,767 --> 00:10:13,834 But Evan was my first. 133 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:15,266 Hart and I are filmmakers 134 00:10:15,333 --> 00:10:17,734 and at that time Hart was shooting away a lot 135 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,100 and he was gone a lot of the time. 136 00:10:19,166 --> 00:10:22,233 So Evan and I ended up being alone together. 137 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:24,200 He was young, I was young. 138 00:10:24,266 --> 00:10:27,333 We were like these two little creatures, 139 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,533 trying to help each other out a little bit. 140 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,600 [LAUGHING] 141 00:10:31,667 --> 00:10:32,934 Yes. 142 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Yes. 143 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:35,066 What's this? 144 00:10:35,133 --> 00:10:36,367 HART: Okay, we-- 145 00:10:36,433 --> 00:10:38,266 We're gonna have an interview with the mom. 146 00:10:38,333 --> 00:10:40,767 So, Mom... 147 00:10:40,834 --> 00:10:42,567 what do you think about your kid? 148 00:10:42,633 --> 00:10:43,667 Kid? 149 00:10:43,734 --> 00:10:45,567 Oh, yeah, this thing. 150 00:10:45,633 --> 00:10:48,233 Well, think that-- I think that it's really 151 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:50,300 just the most special thing, 152 00:10:50,367 --> 00:10:52,567 to give him big kisses. 153 00:10:52,633 --> 00:10:54,233 [BLOWS RASPBERRY] 154 00:10:57,066 --> 00:10:58,600 Really, I think that's the best part 155 00:10:58,667 --> 00:11:00,000 of it all. 156 00:11:00,066 --> 00:11:02,767 NICHOLAS: I remember the first time I met Evan. 157 00:11:02,834 --> 00:11:05,533 Dana had come home from the hospital. 158 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,233 I think I had actually been away with my mother 159 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:12,000 while he was born and my dad came 160 00:11:12,066 --> 00:11:13,633 and picked me up at my apartment. 161 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:16,000 I was living on Mercer Street with my mom. 162 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:17,734 And he said, 163 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,166 "We're going to meet your little brother." 164 00:11:20,233 --> 00:11:24,100 There's this photograph of me, um, 165 00:11:24,166 --> 00:11:27,500 taken during my first encounter with Evan 166 00:11:27,567 --> 00:11:29,834 and my expression sort of sums it all up. 167 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:32,467 It's, "what the fuck is this?" 168 00:11:32,533 --> 00:11:36,233 [CHUCKLES] Sort of holding this baby in my arms thinking, 169 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:38,600 you know, "where did he come from?" 170 00:11:38,667 --> 00:11:41,000 So-- So what--? Who's your brother? 171 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:42,100 Nicky. 172 00:11:42,166 --> 00:11:43,533 Do you like your brother Nicky? 173 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,900 [MUMBLES] 174 00:11:44,967 --> 00:11:46,233 So how old are you, Evan? 175 00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:48,967 Um... I old-- 176 00:11:49,033 --> 00:11:50,333 I older. 177 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,734 You're older? How old? 178 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,333 Um, really old. 179 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,667 Look at Daddy. Look at Daddy's camera when you say that. 180 00:11:55,734 --> 00:11:57,367 I'm really old. 181 00:11:57,433 --> 00:11:59,467 You're really old? How old? 182 00:11:59,533 --> 00:12:01,033 Like, big old. 183 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:02,667 Are you big? Yeah. 184 00:12:02,734 --> 00:12:03,834 How big are you? 185 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:05,200 T-- 186 00:12:05,266 --> 00:12:06,467 Real big? 187 00:12:06,533 --> 00:12:08,033 Big as a dinosaur? 188 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:10,300 I remember his first 189 00:12:10,367 --> 00:12:12,467 word that he used over and over and over again, 190 00:12:12,533 --> 00:12:13,533 was, "no." 191 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,367 And we used to joke it was "no" 192 00:12:16,433 --> 00:12:18,433 because he heard the word "no" so much 193 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:20,867 because as soon as he was walking around 194 00:12:20,934 --> 00:12:23,066 he would get into everything. 195 00:12:24,166 --> 00:12:25,967 [GROUP LAUGHS] 196 00:12:26,033 --> 00:12:27,967 GROUP: Aw... 197 00:12:28,033 --> 00:12:29,166 WOMAN: Oh, how cute. 198 00:12:29,233 --> 00:12:31,133 [LAUGHTER] 199 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,433 DANA: Evan, no, no. No. 200 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:36,867 Be gentle. [WHINES] 201 00:12:36,934 --> 00:12:39,100 Oh, come on. "Please let me punch him in the nose." 202 00:12:39,166 --> 00:12:40,500 [LAUGHTER] 203 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,867 NICHOLAS: I think I understood from an early time 204 00:12:42,967 --> 00:12:45,767 that he was a challenging kid. 205 00:12:45,834 --> 00:12:47,400 [CRYING] 206 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:48,867 MAN: Russell, Russell. 207 00:12:48,934 --> 00:12:50,200 [♪♪] 208 00:12:50,233 --> 00:12:52,633 Getting dressed in the morning I knew was a challenge 209 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:54,667 if he didn't have the right outfit, 210 00:12:54,734 --> 00:12:57,333 you know, you weren't gonna be leaving the house 211 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,967 for a very long time. 212 00:12:59,066 --> 00:13:01,033 [♪♪] 213 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:03,100 One summer we were in Nantucket 214 00:13:03,166 --> 00:13:06,667 and we were trying to leave the beach at the end of the day 215 00:13:06,734 --> 00:13:09,333 and I think it took us 45 minutes 216 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,834 to get the towels in the baskets 217 00:13:11,900 --> 00:13:13,600 and start walking home from the beach 218 00:13:13,667 --> 00:13:17,333 because Evan wanted the towels to be folded 219 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,800 a certain way, 220 00:13:18,867 --> 00:13:20,667 and put in the basket a certain way 221 00:13:20,734 --> 00:13:22,300 and if they weren't 222 00:13:22,367 --> 00:13:25,066 he would dump them out in the sand 223 00:13:25,133 --> 00:13:27,066 and he'd say, "Start over, start over." 224 00:13:27,133 --> 00:13:29,200 That was his big phrase. 225 00:13:29,266 --> 00:13:31,233 HART: He was a perfectionist. 226 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:34,233 And this persisted throughout his whole life. 227 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:37,100 If he wasn't absolutely the best at something, 228 00:13:37,166 --> 00:13:39,667 then he would get frustrated. 229 00:13:39,734 --> 00:13:42,400 And discipline was pretty much impossible. 230 00:13:42,467 --> 00:13:44,300 I mean, the way we used to handle it 231 00:13:44,367 --> 00:13:46,333 is we'd say, okay, so you have time-out 232 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,767 and put him in his room. 233 00:13:47,834 --> 00:13:49,533 Well, you put him in his room for time-out 234 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,300 it's like, you know, Keith Moon in a hotel room. 235 00:13:52,367 --> 00:13:55,166 You know, the TV set's out the window, 236 00:13:55,233 --> 00:13:57,800 bookshelves are, you know-- 237 00:13:57,867 --> 00:13:59,200 Crashing over. 238 00:13:59,266 --> 00:14:01,967 And you come in and it's, like, totally destroyed 239 00:14:02,033 --> 00:14:04,867 and do you think he's at all--? 240 00:14:04,934 --> 00:14:07,066 Uh, you know, feels bad about it? 241 00:14:07,133 --> 00:14:09,700 No, it's like, "Okay, so put me in prison. 242 00:14:09,767 --> 00:14:11,066 I wanna go to prison." 243 00:14:11,133 --> 00:14:13,367 NICHOLAS: There is no doubt in my mind 244 00:14:13,433 --> 00:14:17,033 that he had psychological issues. 245 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:18,734 I guess the best way I can describe it is 246 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,633 he lacked emotional shock absorbers. 247 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:23,300 And because of that 248 00:14:23,367 --> 00:14:25,967 would react to situations 249 00:14:26,033 --> 00:14:29,767 that you and I would see as insignificant 250 00:14:29,834 --> 00:14:32,233 in a really, really big way. 251 00:14:32,300 --> 00:14:33,467 [♪♪] 252 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:37,066 DANA: Well, really, it was almost like 253 00:14:37,133 --> 00:14:38,467 there were two Evans. 254 00:14:38,533 --> 00:14:40,967 He would be, on the one hand, tantrumming 255 00:14:41,033 --> 00:14:43,800 and being completely impossible to reach. 256 00:14:43,867 --> 00:14:46,266 On the other hand, being this wonderful, 257 00:14:46,333 --> 00:14:48,433 vibrant, vivacious kid. 258 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:50,767 [♪♪] 259 00:14:55,233 --> 00:14:56,467 EVAN: Hello. 260 00:14:56,533 --> 00:14:57,934 CHRIS: Hello. What's your name? 261 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,800 My name is RoboCop, what's yours? 262 00:15:00,867 --> 00:15:02,266 Nobody. 263 00:15:02,333 --> 00:15:03,767 Well, I'm pullin' you over, 264 00:15:03,834 --> 00:15:05,367 Nobody, 'cause you're speeding. 265 00:15:05,433 --> 00:15:07,567 Ease up on the throttle. 266 00:15:07,633 --> 00:15:08,734 Okay, good night. 267 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,100 Have sweet dreams, goodbye. 268 00:15:11,166 --> 00:15:13,133 [BOTH LAUGH] 269 00:15:13,233 --> 00:15:16,100 DANA: I mean, he was so much fun to be around 270 00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:18,367 and when Michael was born 271 00:15:18,433 --> 00:15:19,900 Evan was thrilled. 272 00:15:19,967 --> 00:15:21,600 He finally had a playmate. 273 00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:22,900 They were roommates 274 00:15:22,967 --> 00:15:24,433 and he adored Michael. 275 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:26,266 Hi, it's me Evan. 276 00:15:26,333 --> 00:15:29,400 That's my little brother and that's my mom. 277 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,967 HART: And what are they doing? 278 00:15:33,033 --> 00:15:34,800 My mom's talk-- 279 00:15:34,867 --> 00:15:36,567 Trying to talk to somebody, 280 00:15:36,633 --> 00:15:39,834 Michael's just sucking on his pacifier. 281 00:15:40,967 --> 00:15:42,033 I couldn't take 'em out 282 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:43,600 'cause that was too hard to open. 283 00:15:43,667 --> 00:15:45,667 DANA: Okay, what's--? What's Michael saying? 284 00:15:45,734 --> 00:15:47,033 EVAN: He's saying that-- 285 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:49,700 "I wanna get that dog." [WHINES] 286 00:15:49,767 --> 00:15:50,834 That's what he's saying. 287 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:52,200 Okay, Evan, you wanna film now? 288 00:15:52,266 --> 00:15:54,266 Yeah. Okay. 289 00:15:54,333 --> 00:15:55,900 [EVAN GRUNTS] 290 00:15:55,967 --> 00:15:58,533 EVAN: And that's... 291 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,667 formula. 292 00:16:00,734 --> 00:16:02,133 There's a green shirt, 293 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,900 guess who, it's Daddy. 294 00:16:04,967 --> 00:16:06,467 Four eyes. 295 00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:09,133 Oh, there's inside the toilet. 296 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,567 And there's under the bed, let's go see. 297 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,834 We see red gloves, 298 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:18,834 we see some socks. 299 00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:19,967 Ready? HART: I'm ready. 300 00:16:20,033 --> 00:16:21,300 Okay, action. 301 00:16:21,367 --> 00:16:23,367 HART: He learned how to read very quickly, 302 00:16:23,433 --> 00:16:25,166 he loved books. 303 00:16:25,233 --> 00:16:28,166 He loved talking about what he was reading. 304 00:16:28,233 --> 00:16:30,133 And he was a great companion, you know, 305 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,433 when you were doin' something. 306 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,433 Going on a trip... 307 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:34,700 He was a guy who was, 308 00:16:34,767 --> 00:16:36,700 you know, good for an adventure. 309 00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:41,200 MAN: All right, Hart. 310 00:16:41,266 --> 00:16:43,166 DANA: Hart. EVAN: And Evan. 311 00:16:43,233 --> 00:16:45,233 I know, it's tough. And Evan. 312 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:47,300 And Evan. 313 00:16:47,367 --> 00:16:48,900 DANA: He's a big one. 314 00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:53,467 Beautiful. 315 00:16:53,533 --> 00:16:55,633 Let's see the triumphant fishermen. 316 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:58,567 [CHEERING] Yes, Nicholas. 317 00:16:58,633 --> 00:16:59,934 Yay! 318 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,233 What do you think, Evan? 319 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:02,767 What do you think? 320 00:17:02,834 --> 00:17:04,600 Goody! 321 00:17:04,667 --> 00:17:05,734 My camera. 322 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,367 HART: Aw, poor baby boy. 323 00:17:08,433 --> 00:17:11,133 He needs to go to Mommy for help. 324 00:17:12,567 --> 00:17:14,400 DANA: Evan was incredibly affectionate, 325 00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:15,533 he was very physical. 326 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,967 Very cuddly. Always cuddling up. 327 00:17:18,033 --> 00:17:22,000 Ev, are you a little baby still in Mommy's tummy? 328 00:17:22,066 --> 00:17:25,066 Uh-huh. You haven't even been born yet, have you? 329 00:17:27,100 --> 00:17:30,867 You have to take that intense sweetness 330 00:17:30,934 --> 00:17:32,467 and l-- You know, sensitivity, 331 00:17:32,533 --> 00:17:34,066 and just completely upended 332 00:17:34,133 --> 00:17:36,700 into the darkest, scariest... 333 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,900 Uh... 334 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,834 Scary, scary. That's all I can say. 335 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:48,500 Scary person, scary soul. 336 00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:50,133 The darkest of souls. 337 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,333 [♪♪] [APPLAUSE] 338 00:17:53,967 --> 00:17:55,333 When Evan was in kindergarten 339 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,200 I got a call from the after-school teacher. 340 00:17:58,266 --> 00:17:59,400 She was really concerned 341 00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:01,400 about him talking about suicide. 342 00:18:04,266 --> 00:18:06,967 KAREN: I met Evan when he was 5, 343 00:18:07,033 --> 00:18:09,633 and he came to our program-- Performing arts school. 344 00:18:09,700 --> 00:18:11,066 And, um, 345 00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:13,033 he was probably the cutest kid I've ever seen. 346 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:15,200 [APPLAUSE] 347 00:18:16,166 --> 00:18:17,867 You try not to have favorites 348 00:18:17,934 --> 00:18:19,400 but sometimes it just happens 349 00:18:19,467 --> 00:18:22,033 and he happened to be all the teachers' favorite. 350 00:18:22,133 --> 00:18:24,900 He was just one of the most loving, creative kids, 351 00:18:24,967 --> 00:18:26,500 I've ever met. 352 00:18:28,333 --> 00:18:29,633 Very righteous 353 00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:31,800 and everything had to be fair. 354 00:18:31,867 --> 00:18:35,200 And if someone was giving anyone a hard time 355 00:18:35,266 --> 00:18:36,934 he would be the first one to break it up 356 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,567 and say, "Do you think that was fair? 357 00:18:38,633 --> 00:18:39,767 It wasn't fair." 358 00:18:39,834 --> 00:18:41,567 [♪♪] 359 00:18:41,633 --> 00:18:44,767 But when he was 5 and he was in the younger group 360 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,967 he was obsessed with dying. 361 00:18:50,133 --> 00:18:51,500 You know, jumping out the window 362 00:18:51,533 --> 00:18:52,900 and saying, "I'll kill myself." 363 00:18:52,967 --> 00:18:55,400 And he said a relative had done that. 364 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:58,033 Every day in group, he would bring that up. 365 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:01,200 And he would say, "I wanna jump out the window." 366 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:03,767 He'd say, "I don't care if I die. I don't care." 367 00:19:03,834 --> 00:19:05,500 And I said, "Well, what about me?" 368 00:19:05,567 --> 00:19:07,600 And he said, "Well, I'd feel bad for you 369 00:19:07,667 --> 00:19:09,166 "and my parents, but I wouldn't mind 370 00:19:09,233 --> 00:19:11,166 'cause I won't feel anything." 371 00:19:12,433 --> 00:19:13,767 And he would sit in my lap 372 00:19:13,834 --> 00:19:16,433 and have his arm, you know, around me 373 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:17,934 and he would talk about it, he said, 374 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,900 "No, I would-- I would jump out." 375 00:19:19,967 --> 00:19:21,967 You know, like-- I'm like, wh--? 376 00:19:22,033 --> 00:19:24,567 You know, without being upset, without-- 377 00:19:24,633 --> 00:19:27,734 You know, just being loving and affectionate and... 378 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,734 And I said, "Evan, that's just weird talk." 379 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,033 All right? You know, come on. 380 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:32,767 That's-- That's just weird. 381 00:19:33,834 --> 00:19:34,934 I've seen depressed kids 382 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,066 and I've seen, you know, hyper kids. 383 00:19:37,133 --> 00:19:41,066 But not kids who talk about... 384 00:19:41,133 --> 00:19:43,133 you know, dying. 385 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,433 He was just curious about death. 386 00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:46,900 And even obsessed with it. 387 00:19:46,967 --> 00:19:50,967 DANA: The thing about Evan's obsession with death 388 00:19:51,033 --> 00:19:53,066 was that it was so matter-of-fact. 389 00:19:53,133 --> 00:19:54,734 A lot of times it was just casual. 390 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,567 EVAN: Um, we're in Hawaii. 391 00:19:57,633 --> 00:20:00,367 We were just snorkeling, I saw-- 392 00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:02,633 Uh, we saw an eel, 393 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:05,467 and now we're gonna go look at some whales. 394 00:20:05,533 --> 00:20:08,400 Maybe we can see Moby Dick's son. 395 00:20:08,467 --> 00:20:09,633 Like, I remember 396 00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:12,166 one time in-in Hawaii... 397 00:20:12,233 --> 00:20:14,667 We're just there snorkeling or something 398 00:20:14,734 --> 00:20:17,934 and he says something like, "By the way, I've got a rifle." 399 00:20:19,166 --> 00:20:20,734 Don't say this at home, 400 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,834 kids. 401 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:24,133 HART: So what? 402 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,967 I got a rifle. 403 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:30,000 You got a rifle? Yeah. 404 00:20:30,066 --> 00:20:31,300 What do you need a rifle for? 405 00:20:31,367 --> 00:20:33,767 To shoot you. 406 00:20:33,834 --> 00:20:36,500 And you just go, "what?" 407 00:20:36,567 --> 00:20:38,400 Like, what do you mean to sh--? 408 00:20:38,467 --> 00:20:39,800 I mean, that's not really funny. 409 00:20:39,867 --> 00:20:42,400 It's not really expressed in a-- 410 00:20:42,467 --> 00:20:44,367 In a way that seems attention-getting. 411 00:20:44,433 --> 00:20:46,533 It seems like, 412 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,300 "Yeah. This is what I think about." 413 00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:52,266 "1997, Evan Perry. 414 00:20:52,333 --> 00:20:54,967 "Perfectionistic, obsessive. 415 00:20:55,033 --> 00:20:58,133 Doesn't like to have things..." 416 00:20:59,266 --> 00:21:00,734 I stopped writing there. 417 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,700 "Good athlete, popular... 418 00:21:02,767 --> 00:21:05,467 DANA: When he was 5 we did start seeing a psychiatrist. 419 00:21:05,533 --> 00:21:08,266 "Doing well in school. 420 00:21:08,333 --> 00:21:11,066 Last year fighting, etc." 421 00:21:11,133 --> 00:21:13,000 And very early on, 422 00:21:13,066 --> 00:21:14,166 he diagnosed depression 423 00:21:14,233 --> 00:21:15,900 in Evan and put him on Prozac. 424 00:21:15,967 --> 00:21:18,000 We talked about Prozac, 425 00:21:18,066 --> 00:21:20,567 September 25th, '97. 426 00:21:20,633 --> 00:21:22,667 That was the heyday of where 427 00:21:22,734 --> 00:21:25,066 people were just really discovering 428 00:21:25,133 --> 00:21:26,633 depression in children. 429 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:29,800 You know, before-- I don't know when. 430 00:21:29,867 --> 00:21:31,166 When I started out training, 431 00:21:31,233 --> 00:21:33,500 people didn't really think children had depression. 432 00:21:33,567 --> 00:21:34,600 It was just thought, 433 00:21:34,667 --> 00:21:36,300 children don't get depressed. Period. 434 00:21:36,367 --> 00:21:38,333 I remember when you prescribed Prozac 435 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,567 I was pretty surprised 436 00:21:39,633 --> 00:21:41,400 because I'd never heard of that. 437 00:21:41,467 --> 00:21:43,133 That was, like, a really big thing. 438 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,200 "Positive, strong family history 439 00:21:45,266 --> 00:21:47,934 of depression on both sides." 440 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,033 Should I say this part? Or skip this? 441 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,100 "Parental uncle 442 00:21:52,166 --> 00:21:54,533 committed suicide, age 21." 443 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,667 Your brother, yeah. 444 00:21:56,734 --> 00:21:59,133 "Talks about death and murder." 445 00:22:00,934 --> 00:22:02,800 He was just scary. I don't know what to say. 446 00:22:02,867 --> 00:22:04,934 He had already made a suicide attempt. 447 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,734 DANA: Which one? "Ran to window 448 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,700 and threatened to jump in front of parents," I wrote. 449 00:22:09,767 --> 00:22:12,767 "Defiant, rebellious, banged head. 450 00:22:12,834 --> 00:22:16,333 "Threatened to kill parents and brother. 451 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,667 I want cancer." 452 00:22:17,734 --> 00:22:21,367 Well, he was such a baby, you know, in the beginning. 453 00:22:21,433 --> 00:22:22,667 He had such a baby face. 454 00:22:22,734 --> 00:22:24,633 I mean, such a kind of-- 455 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:27,567 Kind of, pink, kind of, baby kid. 456 00:22:27,633 --> 00:22:30,033 And then it was this-that-- 457 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:32,834 Kind of, visual contrast between the-- 458 00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:36,667 You know, the demons inside him and that, kind of, sweet look. 459 00:22:36,734 --> 00:22:38,867 [♪♪] 460 00:22:41,033 --> 00:22:42,166 DANA: At one point, 461 00:22:42,233 --> 00:22:44,567 I'd say, Evan was about-- 462 00:22:44,633 --> 00:22:46,200 Maybe 7 or 8. 463 00:22:46,266 --> 00:22:49,600 He and I were home and once again 464 00:22:49,667 --> 00:22:52,900 he started to talk about wanting to kill himself. 465 00:22:54,567 --> 00:22:56,400 A lot of times he would tell me specifically 466 00:22:56,467 --> 00:22:57,600 what he was gonna do. 467 00:22:57,667 --> 00:22:59,000 He was gonna jump out the window, 468 00:22:59,066 --> 00:23:00,433 he was gonna jump off a building, 469 00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:01,934 he was gonna cut himself. 470 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,667 Or in this particular occasion, 471 00:23:03,734 --> 00:23:05,900 he was gonna hang himself. 472 00:23:05,967 --> 00:23:08,567 He took this pillow thing 473 00:23:08,633 --> 00:23:10,066 with a strap on it 474 00:23:10,133 --> 00:23:12,066 and climbed up on his bunk bed, 475 00:23:12,133 --> 00:23:15,133 then he affixed it up there. 476 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,633 And then he put it around his neck 477 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:20,000 and he showed me how he was gonna jump off the bunk bed. 478 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:25,000 He's gonna show Mom how he's gonna hang himself, 479 00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:26,667 right in front of her. 480 00:23:26,734 --> 00:23:30,133 And I didn't let him. 481 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,166 But I'm tired of trying to explain to people 482 00:23:32,233 --> 00:23:33,367 what I'm hearing at home 483 00:23:33,433 --> 00:23:36,367 and I'm just gonna record this. 484 00:23:38,033 --> 00:23:40,800 I always felt so guilty about taking those pictures, 485 00:23:40,867 --> 00:23:44,300 but I was so tired of explaining to people 486 00:23:44,367 --> 00:23:46,200 my son wants to kill himself. 487 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,734 I just needed some kind of proof that, um-- 488 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,834 That this is really happening. 489 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:56,433 Because it was so impossible to believe. 490 00:24:01,567 --> 00:24:03,200 Oh, God. 491 00:24:03,266 --> 00:24:04,767 This is when he tried to hang himself? 492 00:24:04,834 --> 00:24:06,133 DANA: Yeah. 493 00:24:11,266 --> 00:24:13,233 You know, there was a, uh... 494 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,233 idea that children could not be suicidal 495 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:22,300 because they didn't understand that death was, um, 496 00:24:22,367 --> 00:24:24,200 irreversible. 497 00:24:25,934 --> 00:24:28,000 Um... 498 00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:30,967 I never really felt like I knew Evan very well. 499 00:24:31,033 --> 00:24:34,800 Um, he was the scariest kid I ever saw in my life. 500 00:24:34,867 --> 00:24:36,367 I'd never seen who'd been this-- 501 00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:40,266 Was this intent on, uh, death. 502 00:24:40,333 --> 00:24:41,500 [♪♪] 503 00:24:41,567 --> 00:24:44,000 It felt to me always like there was 504 00:24:44,066 --> 00:24:47,000 a mask or something there. 505 00:24:47,066 --> 00:24:49,266 And I remember that look going over him. 506 00:24:49,333 --> 00:24:51,533 That unreachable look. 507 00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,567 DANA: When Evan went through a mood swing 508 00:24:54,633 --> 00:24:55,800 his whole body changed. 509 00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:58,266 His face changed, his physical attitude changed. 510 00:24:58,333 --> 00:25:00,266 His ability to communicate changed. 511 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:03,633 And you literally saw it in his face. 512 00:25:03,667 --> 00:25:05,667 He became unreachable. 513 00:25:05,734 --> 00:25:08,834 Hart and I started to call it the fugue state. 514 00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:10,200 You'd sort of go like this: 515 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:13,100 The physical change would be 516 00:25:13,133 --> 00:25:15,033 like a slackening of his face. 517 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,533 It just wasn't engaged. 518 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,800 Something receded. 519 00:25:19,867 --> 00:25:22,467 And what you had was this kind of thing: 520 00:25:22,533 --> 00:25:23,800 This facade. 521 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,567 MAN: Some whales are real curious, they come right up to the boat. 522 00:25:42,633 --> 00:25:45,967 Some whales turn the other cheek and leave, essentially. 523 00:25:46,033 --> 00:25:48,567 DANA: There was a tone of voice that went along with it too. 524 00:25:48,633 --> 00:25:50,967 A very flat tone of voice. 525 00:25:51,867 --> 00:25:53,233 [GROUP GASPING] 526 00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:55,767 WOMAN: They look like orcas to me. 527 00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,900 HART: Where'd you see the whale? 528 00:25:59,967 --> 00:26:03,033 I saw it over there and over there. 529 00:26:04,567 --> 00:26:05,633 Pretty exciting seeing 530 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,033 the size of the whale, wasn't it? 531 00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:08,567 DANA: Yeah, it was cool. 532 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,934 He could be very sullen. 533 00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:14,767 HART: 534 00:26:14,834 --> 00:26:16,400 I-- What do you mean? 535 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,700 Yeah, I am. 536 00:26:22,867 --> 00:26:24,467 Five. HART: Five? 537 00:26:24,533 --> 00:26:26,266 This is the sixth. 538 00:26:26,333 --> 00:26:28,133 So this is pretty exciting... 539 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,166 He definitely acted like a teenager 540 00:26:30,233 --> 00:26:31,934 at a very young age. 541 00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:34,633 You hungry? 542 00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:36,300 Yeah. 543 00:26:36,367 --> 00:26:39,367 Yeah, I want a peanut butter sandwich. 544 00:26:43,266 --> 00:26:46,066 There's my goddamn control. 545 00:26:46,133 --> 00:26:47,266 HART: What'd you say? 546 00:26:47,333 --> 00:26:49,266 God. No, that's not nice. 547 00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:52,400 HART: He seemed to have skipped being a kid 548 00:26:52,467 --> 00:26:55,367 and gone immediately to being a adolescent. 549 00:26:55,433 --> 00:26:57,266 HART: How was the football game yesterday? 550 00:26:57,333 --> 00:26:59,066 EVAN: 551 00:26:59,133 --> 00:27:01,600 DANA: That you expect from your 15-year-old. 552 00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:03,200 You know, "You're not the boss of me. 553 00:27:03,266 --> 00:27:04,467 Come on, give me the car keys." 554 00:27:04,533 --> 00:27:05,700 "Where you goin'?" "Out." 555 00:27:05,767 --> 00:27:07,333 "What'd you do in school?" "Nothin'." 556 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,667 I mean, that seems normal. 557 00:27:08,734 --> 00:27:11,100 In a 7-year-old it doesn't seem normal. 558 00:27:11,166 --> 00:27:13,600 And he was very teenage it was-- 559 00:27:13,667 --> 00:27:16,533 Along with that though, he was also very sophisticated. 560 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,600 [GUITAR PLAYING] 561 00:27:17,667 --> 00:27:19,000 EVAN [SINGING]: 562 00:27:20,433 --> 00:27:22,100 DANA: He did not have a Britney Spears phase 563 00:27:22,166 --> 00:27:23,800 he did not have a Backstreet Boys phase, 564 00:27:23,867 --> 00:27:26,567 he went straight to Dylan, Neil Young, Nirvana. 565 00:27:26,633 --> 00:27:29,200 And he wrote a lot of songs. 566 00:27:42,233 --> 00:27:45,266 His lyrics touched on things that you can't imagine 567 00:27:45,333 --> 00:27:47,667 a kid that young would even think about. 568 00:27:47,734 --> 00:27:50,133 ♪ You would think it's ♪ 569 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,233 ♪ Odd for me ♪ 570 00:27:53,734 --> 00:27:56,433 ♪ If I could be ♪ 571 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,734 ♪ Cuttin' myself On the neck ♪ 572 00:28:03,233 --> 00:28:05,934 ♪ Fittin' you With my knife ♪ 573 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,533 ♪ Sayin' you're gonna Die tonight ♪ 574 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,834 DANA: Stop! 575 00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:12,433 ♪ Well, that's because ♪ 576 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:14,934 ♪ I'm depressed Nothing less ♪ 577 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,834 ♪ Curious, furious ♪ 578 00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:20,734 ♪ So somebody kill me please ♪ 579 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,834 ♪ I'm standin' on my knees ♪ 580 00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:24,266 [MIKEY SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY] 581 00:28:25,867 --> 00:28:28,667 ♪ Somebody kill me please ♪ 582 00:28:28,734 --> 00:28:30,300 ♪ Pretty, pretty please ♪ 583 00:28:30,367 --> 00:28:33,133 ♪ I'm standin' on my knees ♪ 584 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,200 It's because I'm depressed. 585 00:28:37,266 --> 00:28:39,500 [♪♪] 586 00:28:39,567 --> 00:28:41,233 Okay, that's it. 587 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,500 NICHOLAS: When he was maybe 8 or 9 he kept a journal 588 00:28:46,567 --> 00:28:48,967 and I saw it and took it out 589 00:28:49,033 --> 00:28:50,166 and started reading it. 590 00:28:50,233 --> 00:28:52,200 And there are these poems in it 591 00:28:52,266 --> 00:28:53,533 essentially saying, 592 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,900 "I'm prepared for death. 593 00:28:54,967 --> 00:28:56,233 I'm not afraid of death." 594 00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:57,433 These really deep poems. 595 00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:58,900 And I was 596 00:28:58,967 --> 00:29:01,700 probably 15-16 597 00:29:01,767 --> 00:29:03,166 and going through my moody phase. 598 00:29:03,233 --> 00:29:05,000 And I remember thinking, "Wow. 599 00:29:05,066 --> 00:29:08,467 These are thoughts I'm having right now." 600 00:29:09,834 --> 00:29:12,500 I felt there was something really powerful 601 00:29:12,567 --> 00:29:14,133 going on in his mind, 602 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,834 that he had a sensitivity, 603 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:20,967 a maturity that was way beyond his years. 604 00:29:23,533 --> 00:29:26,433 KAREN: There's one play that Evan wrote 605 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:28,166 and his character was 606 00:29:28,233 --> 00:29:30,867 a depressed kid who just saw the negativity in everything. 607 00:29:30,934 --> 00:29:32,900 Hey, kid. Yeah? 608 00:29:32,967 --> 00:29:35,700 It's not raining anymore. 609 00:29:35,767 --> 00:29:37,033 Just give it some t-- 610 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,333 Just give it some time, it'll start up again. 611 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,934 When he was 10 he said, 612 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,233 "Let's do a play about someone dying-- 613 00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:44,467 A boy dying." 614 00:29:44,533 --> 00:29:46,166 I said, "Well, 615 00:29:46,233 --> 00:29:47,567 what kind of story is that?" 616 00:29:47,633 --> 00:29:50,066 He said, "What? It's a story about a kid dying." 617 00:29:50,133 --> 00:29:52,100 And all his friends and they miss him. 618 00:29:52,166 --> 00:29:55,533 [SOBBING] How am I supposed to live without you? 619 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,967 You were my big brother. 620 00:29:58,033 --> 00:30:00,266 Who's gonna take care of me? 621 00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:02,200 Walk me to school? 622 00:30:02,266 --> 00:30:04,667 Calm me down when I'm upset? 623 00:30:04,734 --> 00:30:07,433 Please, don't leave me. 624 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:09,033 We'll be there for you. 625 00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,200 It will be okay. 626 00:30:10,266 --> 00:30:12,000 I'll walk you to school. 627 00:30:12,066 --> 00:30:13,667 I can't leave him! 628 00:30:13,734 --> 00:30:15,266 Evan came up with a story 629 00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:16,433 that didn't make any sense. 630 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:17,900 Just, someone died. 631 00:30:17,967 --> 00:30:19,467 And, you know, that they cry. 632 00:30:19,533 --> 00:30:22,500 You said you would always be there for me. 633 00:30:22,567 --> 00:30:23,600 Well, I need you 634 00:30:23,667 --> 00:30:26,867 more than I ever have right now. 635 00:30:26,934 --> 00:30:29,333 I think he wanted the play 636 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,967 to be about the boy dying, 637 00:30:31,033 --> 00:30:33,333 which obviously was his character, 638 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,767 and to be able to see it in a play 639 00:30:36,834 --> 00:30:39,166 that everybody loves him. 640 00:30:39,233 --> 00:30:41,133 I know that. When you leave, it's like, 641 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,700 that's when everyone gets together 642 00:30:42,767 --> 00:30:44,333 and they miss you and they honor you. 643 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,800 He will always be with us. 644 00:30:45,867 --> 00:30:48,500 You don't have to look here, or in heaven. 645 00:30:48,567 --> 00:30:50,500 Look in your heart and he'll be there. 646 00:30:50,567 --> 00:30:52,700 [ERIC CLAPTON'S "TEARS IN HEAVEN" PLAYING] 647 00:30:54,066 --> 00:30:55,734 So we decided to do the show 648 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,300 and that's when, um... 649 00:30:58,367 --> 00:31:00,166 you know, Evan attempted-- 650 00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:01,834 Or came close 651 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:04,233 to attempting suicide at PS-11. 652 00:31:04,333 --> 00:31:06,500 [♪♪] 653 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,066 DANA: The fall semester of 2000, 654 00:31:13,133 --> 00:31:15,000 when Evan was in fifth grade 655 00:31:15,066 --> 00:31:16,800 he communicated 656 00:31:16,867 --> 00:31:18,066 to the principal of his school 657 00:31:18,133 --> 00:31:19,667 that he felt suicidal. 658 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:22,700 We get a letter and of course-- 659 00:31:22,767 --> 00:31:25,100 You know, it says, "just a psychological evaluation." 660 00:31:25,166 --> 00:31:27,033 Well, I'm already in therapy. 661 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,633 I'm already seeing a psychiatrist. 662 00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,400 He was already on meds. I don't know-- 663 00:31:30,467 --> 00:31:31,834 You know, I don't know what to do. 664 00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:33,266 I don't know what to do. 665 00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:36,300 And three weeks later, 666 00:31:36,367 --> 00:31:38,500 he made an attempt at school. 667 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,600 I got a call at my office. 668 00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:44,367 "This is Mr. Delmonico 669 00:31:44,433 --> 00:31:47,734 from PS-11 and this is about Evan." 670 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,834 He said, "It's-it's very serious. 671 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:51,467 Um, you need to get here." 672 00:31:51,533 --> 00:31:54,166 And I'm like, "You have to tell me what's going on." 673 00:31:54,233 --> 00:31:57,734 He said, "He's up on the roof of his school." 674 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,033 PS-11, it's probably 675 00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,000 six stories. 676 00:32:02,066 --> 00:32:03,834 And he took a chunk of pavement 677 00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:05,367 about the size of a hamburger 678 00:32:05,433 --> 00:32:07,300 and threw it down onto the playground 679 00:32:07,367 --> 00:32:08,667 where the other kids were. 680 00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,567 One of the teachers went out on the roof 681 00:32:12,633 --> 00:32:16,233 and there was Evan, perched on a ledge. 682 00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:19,500 And Evan told him that he wanted to kill himself, 683 00:32:19,567 --> 00:32:21,333 that he was gonna jump. 684 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,533 The teacher told him that life was worth living 685 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,934 and what was good about Evan, 686 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,700 and that he was loved. 687 00:32:28,767 --> 00:32:31,700 And eventually Evan came down on his own. 688 00:32:32,767 --> 00:32:34,266 By the time I got there, 689 00:32:34,333 --> 00:32:37,400 he had been brought down into the principal's office 690 00:32:37,467 --> 00:32:39,800 and we were there in the principal's office 691 00:32:39,867 --> 00:32:41,333 and we decided to go straight 692 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,467 from there to an emergency room. 693 00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:45,700 [SIREN WAILS] 694 00:32:45,767 --> 00:32:47,333 One of the residents asked him, 695 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,400 "Do you know what it's like to be dead?" 696 00:32:50,467 --> 00:32:52,934 He says, "Yeah, everybody gathers around 697 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,900 and talks about how great you were." 698 00:32:55,967 --> 00:32:57,734 HART: And for me it was like, 699 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,266 this is my worst fear. 700 00:32:59,333 --> 00:33:01,233 He is like my brother. 701 00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:03,000 [PROJECTOR CLICKING] 702 00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:06,800 My younger brother Scott committed suicide 703 00:33:06,867 --> 00:33:10,266 by asphyxiating himself in a car. 704 00:33:17,633 --> 00:33:19,734 Because of my experience with my brother 705 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,200 I wasn't going to fool around. 706 00:33:23,266 --> 00:33:26,600 We had Evan involuntarily committed 707 00:33:26,667 --> 00:33:28,667 to a mental institution. 708 00:33:28,734 --> 00:33:31,333 Uh, 'cause we were... 709 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,333 very, very concerned about his suicide attempt. 710 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,500 We took it very seriously. 711 00:33:35,567 --> 00:33:39,233 The place he went was called Four Winds. 712 00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:40,867 It's outside of New York, 713 00:33:40,934 --> 00:33:44,667 and it's a lock-up psychiatric facility. 714 00:33:45,767 --> 00:33:47,133 SUZANNE: Evan was brought in 715 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,533 by ambulance after having an incident at school. 716 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Um, he was brought to the Deerfield Unit 717 00:33:53,467 --> 00:33:55,600 which is the unit I was working on at the time. 718 00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:57,734 Which is for kids 8 to 12. 719 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,400 And immediately assessed and evaluated. 720 00:34:01,467 --> 00:34:02,867 We were able to establish 721 00:34:02,934 --> 00:34:04,934 a, uh-- A pattern. 722 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,500 And saw that he definitely, 723 00:34:06,567 --> 00:34:09,066 uh, met the criteria for bipolar disorder. 724 00:34:09,133 --> 00:34:11,367 [PROJECTOR CLICKING] 725 00:34:11,433 --> 00:34:14,133 You know, known historically as manic-depression. 726 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,166 This is a chemical imbalance, 727 00:34:16,233 --> 00:34:19,066 a chemical illness in the brain. 728 00:34:19,133 --> 00:34:22,734 Some kids have more of a propensity towards depression 729 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,233 and some kids have more of a propensity towards mania. 730 00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:26,433 I think in Evan's case, 731 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:28,700 it was definitely more depression. 732 00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:34,033 Bipolar depression is definitely more severe 733 00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,600 than just depression. 734 00:34:36,667 --> 00:34:39,533 That's why suicide attempts are more common 735 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,867 in kids with bipolar depression. 736 00:34:41,934 --> 00:34:44,300 And that's why it's scarier. 737 00:34:44,367 --> 00:34:46,633 'Cause you don't know how far he'll take it. 738 00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:49,633 You know, you don't know if he actually would 739 00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:52,667 have jumped off that ledge at school. 740 00:34:52,734 --> 00:34:54,400 You know, he had a tendency to blame 741 00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,467 other people or other situations 742 00:34:56,533 --> 00:34:58,734 instead of being able to say, "Okay, yeah, I get it. 743 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,767 "I did something I probably shouldn't have done, 744 00:35:00,834 --> 00:35:04,000 it scared a lot of people and that's why I'm here." 745 00:35:04,066 --> 00:35:05,367 He just sort of said, 746 00:35:05,433 --> 00:35:07,967 "All I wanted was someone to listen." 747 00:35:08,033 --> 00:35:09,567 And he just couldn't understand 748 00:35:09,633 --> 00:35:13,133 that his behaviors and the measure that he took 749 00:35:13,166 --> 00:35:15,100 were scary to people. 750 00:35:15,166 --> 00:35:17,834 He didn't think that if he went and stood on the, uh-- 751 00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:20,333 The roof of the school, that anything would happen. 752 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,900 So when he ended up in a hospital 753 00:35:21,967 --> 00:35:24,700 where it's lock down and they watch you every second 754 00:35:24,767 --> 00:35:26,300 and you're not allowed to do anything 755 00:35:26,367 --> 00:35:28,233 unless it's part of the schedule 756 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:29,900 and there are these other damaged kids 757 00:35:29,967 --> 00:35:31,867 and your parents can only visit once in a while. 758 00:35:31,934 --> 00:35:34,000 He just broke down. [♪♪] 759 00:35:34,066 --> 00:35:36,900 I mean, he just fell apart. He fell apart. 760 00:35:38,533 --> 00:35:40,867 SUZANNE: He was destroying property on the unit. 761 00:35:40,934 --> 00:35:43,000 He was very, very angry. 762 00:35:43,066 --> 00:35:45,667 At one point I remember he drew all over his walls 763 00:35:45,734 --> 00:35:49,300 in his room and we had to have him clean his walls. 764 00:35:49,367 --> 00:35:52,633 He also was tantrumming a lot, he was angry a lot. 765 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:56,400 He was banging his head and his arms up against a wall. 766 00:35:56,467 --> 00:35:59,367 When he was in the throes of a manic episode 767 00:35:59,433 --> 00:36:01,200 or a depressive episode, 768 00:36:01,266 --> 00:36:02,867 you know, you couldn't reason. 769 00:36:02,934 --> 00:36:06,133 And you can't reason with a kid who's bipolar. 770 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,367 HART: Visiting Evan at Four Winds 771 00:36:08,433 --> 00:36:10,800 was agonizing. 772 00:36:10,867 --> 00:36:12,867 Here is a kid 773 00:36:12,934 --> 00:36:16,166 who was in a lock-up psychiatric facility 774 00:36:16,233 --> 00:36:19,433 for seriously mentally ill kids. 775 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:21,767 And coming to terms with your kid 776 00:36:21,834 --> 00:36:24,000 who seemed to have behavioral issues 777 00:36:24,066 --> 00:36:26,066 but he could've just, you know-- 778 00:36:26,133 --> 00:36:27,233 Be like an adolescent, 779 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:29,200 that this is something he'd go through. 780 00:36:29,266 --> 00:36:30,767 Because he had so many really, 781 00:36:30,834 --> 00:36:33,567 you know, charming, bright qualities. 782 00:36:33,633 --> 00:36:36,533 Four Winds was, uh, 783 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,600 a real body punch. 784 00:36:38,667 --> 00:36:42,967 Evan was given a variety of medications. 785 00:36:43,033 --> 00:36:44,900 Depakote was one of them. 786 00:36:44,967 --> 00:36:47,266 Uh, he seemed really doped up. 787 00:36:47,333 --> 00:36:49,100 And then they suggested 788 00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:51,500 that he try lithium. 789 00:36:51,567 --> 00:36:53,500 SUZANNE: Lithium is a mood stabilizer 790 00:36:53,567 --> 00:36:55,600 and it is used to level off 791 00:36:55,667 --> 00:36:57,633 the serotonin in the brain 792 00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:00,033 as opposed to having the highs and lows 793 00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:04,433 you kind of even off the chemistry. 794 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:06,533 DANA: He really did start to respond to lithium. 795 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,767 I mean, it was really, pretty remarkable. 796 00:37:08,867 --> 00:37:12,233 But he was still, you know, profoundly ill. 797 00:37:12,266 --> 00:37:13,800 So then the question became like: 798 00:37:13,867 --> 00:37:16,667 Well, what do we do after this? 799 00:37:16,734 --> 00:37:18,700 [BIRDS CAWING] 800 00:37:18,767 --> 00:37:21,200 HART: PS-11 would not take him back 801 00:37:21,266 --> 00:37:23,700 and there was no place for him to go. 802 00:37:23,767 --> 00:37:26,333 Uh, except for this very expensive alternative 803 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,533 which turned out to, I think, have saved his life 804 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,266 for a number of years. 805 00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:35,133 DANA: Suzanne Hanna who was his therapist 806 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,266 recommended this place called Wellspring 807 00:37:37,333 --> 00:37:40,567 which was what they call Milieu Therapy. 808 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:41,767 Everything's an opportunity 809 00:37:41,834 --> 00:37:43,266 to learn how to live in the group. 810 00:37:43,333 --> 00:37:45,333 From doing the dishes, making meals, 811 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,433 to taking care of animals, 812 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:48,667 to taking care of younger children, 813 00:37:48,734 --> 00:37:51,367 to chores and things like that. 814 00:37:52,333 --> 00:37:54,166 DAN: Evan came to us 815 00:37:54,233 --> 00:37:55,967 from Four Winds hospital 816 00:37:56,033 --> 00:37:58,734 and they were pretty adamant that the bipolar disorder was, 817 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,367 um, managed, medication-wise 818 00:38:01,433 --> 00:38:04,033 and that he was on the proper dosages 819 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,633 and, uh, that seemed to be the case 820 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:07,066 on some level we saw. 821 00:38:07,133 --> 00:38:09,633 And then, right away, within a few days, 822 00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:11,200 Evan decided to venture 823 00:38:11,266 --> 00:38:13,900 off campus and, uh... 824 00:38:13,967 --> 00:38:16,300 Obvious question at that point was: 825 00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:18,233 Was it really controlled? 826 00:38:20,166 --> 00:38:23,367 Three days in he decided that he wasn't gonna have it. 827 00:38:23,433 --> 00:38:24,800 You know, that this whole thing 828 00:38:24,867 --> 00:38:26,266 about the adults being in charge 829 00:38:26,333 --> 00:38:29,066 really wasn't for him. 830 00:38:29,133 --> 00:38:31,500 He made it a little bit more complicated than he had to. 831 00:38:31,567 --> 00:38:33,100 Built in a little dramatic effect, 832 00:38:33,166 --> 00:38:35,266 he went out a window. He could've went out the door. 833 00:38:35,333 --> 00:38:37,633 We don't have-- The doors aren't locked. 834 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:39,500 Oh, I see, so he went out the window 835 00:38:39,567 --> 00:38:41,300 and then went on the roof, 836 00:38:41,367 --> 00:38:42,533 and then jumped down. 837 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,333 So this was like-- That involved some doing. 838 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,900 HART: Dana gets a phone call from Evan, 839 00:38:47,967 --> 00:38:50,433 that he's climbed out a window 840 00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:52,500 and escaped from Wellspring 841 00:38:52,567 --> 00:38:55,000 and is in some guy's house. 842 00:38:55,066 --> 00:38:56,767 Of course, we had to go to juvenile court 843 00:38:56,834 --> 00:38:59,333 because the guy whose house he broke into, 844 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,433 uh, pressed charges. 845 00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:05,066 I think the neighbor whose house he was in 846 00:39:05,133 --> 00:39:07,633 was quite unforgiving. 847 00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:09,700 You know, luckily, he didn't do anything 848 00:39:09,767 --> 00:39:11,533 with that man's house that day, 849 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,834 but he was trying to get 850 00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:15,033 a rise out of his parents to come rescue him. 851 00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:16,667 Show them just how much he's suffering 852 00:39:16,734 --> 00:39:18,767 and he'll go home and stir it all up again 853 00:39:18,834 --> 00:39:20,700 and be back in the hospital again in-- 854 00:39:20,767 --> 00:39:22,100 You know, another year. 855 00:39:22,166 --> 00:39:24,834 It was as if he was in a game. 856 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:27,066 It was an important event, 857 00:39:27,133 --> 00:39:29,900 and it really kind of marked that need for a switch. 858 00:39:29,967 --> 00:39:33,467 That-that Evan really needed to be held accountable 859 00:39:33,533 --> 00:39:35,700 for the relational damage he was doing. 860 00:39:35,767 --> 00:39:38,333 So that event was a microcosm 861 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,266 of what had happened in his life. 862 00:39:40,333 --> 00:39:42,533 He wasn't being held accountable on some level 863 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,433 for the damage he did to you all. 864 00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:46,367 That was the first night we were here. 865 00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:47,667 We sat right here, right? 866 00:39:47,734 --> 00:39:48,734 Yup. 867 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,266 As I recall, um, you had us in first 868 00:39:51,333 --> 00:39:53,166 and kind of gave us a little heads up 869 00:39:53,233 --> 00:39:55,200 and then Evan came in 870 00:39:55,266 --> 00:39:56,867 and he had us, I think, sit on his-- 871 00:39:56,934 --> 00:39:58,867 Sit in our laps and-- Right. 872 00:39:58,934 --> 00:40:01,767 And you told him we had to talk to him really honestly. 873 00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:02,834 Right. 874 00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:04,000 And I did and it was-- 875 00:40:04,066 --> 00:40:06,400 It was like this incredible relief 876 00:40:06,467 --> 00:40:09,900 because I had permission to say what I was feeling 877 00:40:09,967 --> 00:40:12,033 without being afraid of breaking him. 878 00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:13,200 You know? I remember. 879 00:40:13,266 --> 00:40:14,667 And you-you were like, "Really?" 880 00:40:14,734 --> 00:40:16,700 [CHUCKLES] Yeah, I was like, really? 881 00:40:16,767 --> 00:40:18,166 Well, if I tell him that I'm afraid 882 00:40:18,233 --> 00:40:19,867 I'm gonna find him dead, he'll explode. 883 00:40:19,934 --> 00:40:22,000 And the world will end and, you know, 884 00:40:22,066 --> 00:40:23,633 all this stuff will come rushing out, 885 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:24,767 and we'll be poisonous, 886 00:40:24,834 --> 00:40:26,500 and we won't be able to survive it. 887 00:40:26,567 --> 00:40:29,333 And I think, to all of our amazement, 888 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,200 we not only survived, 889 00:40:31,266 --> 00:40:33,333 but started building, you know, on that. 890 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,700 [♪♪] 891 00:40:35,767 --> 00:40:37,734 DANA: Finally he started to work 892 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,400 with the therapy at Wellspring. 893 00:40:39,467 --> 00:40:42,066 And slowly, bit by bit, 894 00:40:42,133 --> 00:40:44,734 he started to come around to their philosophy. 895 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,166 We came frequently for, you know, sessions, 896 00:40:48,233 --> 00:40:51,433 where we learned how to communicate as a family. 897 00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:54,667 With Evan-- With his unique needs. 898 00:40:54,734 --> 00:40:56,400 It was like learning a new language. 899 00:40:56,467 --> 00:40:59,533 DANA: They basically say that children are responsible 900 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,033 for their actions. 901 00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,166 Let's put it really simply: 902 00:41:02,233 --> 00:41:04,133 If you make a mess, you clean it up. 903 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,500 Whether it's a physical mess 904 00:41:05,567 --> 00:41:07,767 like you spilled something, you need to clean up, 905 00:41:07,834 --> 00:41:08,967 or an emotional mess. 906 00:41:09,033 --> 00:41:10,533 I remember coming here 907 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,800 and seeing, uh, Evan working on that stone wall over there. 908 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,600 DAN: For a child to think they cleaned up their mess 909 00:41:17,667 --> 00:41:19,467 and they made something a little better, 910 00:41:19,533 --> 00:41:21,500 rather than feeling like you were punished 911 00:41:21,567 --> 00:41:23,633 or you had consequences or whatever. 912 00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:24,900 But in this case you get to feel 913 00:41:24,967 --> 00:41:27,000 like you really repaired something. 914 00:41:27,066 --> 00:41:29,500 Yeah, and maybe that's even better than it was before. 915 00:41:29,567 --> 00:41:31,633 DANA: I think what happened at Wellspring 916 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:35,333 is that they encouraged Evan to be a boy. 917 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,967 I think a lot of their philosophy is 918 00:41:38,033 --> 00:41:39,867 to let children be children. 919 00:41:39,934 --> 00:41:42,767 DAN: When he came he was kind of running the show. 920 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:45,367 You know, he was in adult conversations, 921 00:41:45,433 --> 00:41:49,200 and he would much prefer being with the staff 922 00:41:49,266 --> 00:41:50,800 than he would with the other kids. 923 00:41:50,867 --> 00:41:53,000 He really needed to be a kid again 924 00:41:53,066 --> 00:41:54,700 and just have fun and relax and-- 925 00:41:54,767 --> 00:41:59,000 And forget about all those bigger issues. 926 00:41:59,066 --> 00:42:01,800 DANA: Especially for Evan who was really acting like 927 00:42:01,867 --> 00:42:03,367 such a teenager at such a young age, 928 00:42:03,433 --> 00:42:06,233 it was a miracle to see him get past 929 00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:08,033 that facade of "I'm too cool." 930 00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,400 And to just be a pure boy. 931 00:42:10,467 --> 00:42:13,166 And I remember a time seeing him at Wellspring 932 00:42:13,233 --> 00:42:15,934 playing in the yard with pure boyness, 933 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,467 that boy essence, which is what you need at that age. 934 00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:20,467 It's a beautiful day, you're throwing a ball 935 00:42:20,533 --> 00:42:21,533 with your friends. 936 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,500 [SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY] 937 00:42:23,567 --> 00:42:26,967 DANA: Early on, I'd say in the first four weeks or so, 938 00:42:27,033 --> 00:42:28,367 he began to earn weekend passes, 939 00:42:28,433 --> 00:42:30,633 so the weekend of Michael's birthday, 940 00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:31,800 he finally did get released, 941 00:42:31,867 --> 00:42:33,166 and he was at the birthday party 942 00:42:33,233 --> 00:42:35,133 and I remember looking at him and thinking, 943 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,800 "Oh, he looks like a boy." 944 00:42:40,133 --> 00:42:43,100 I mean, the old Evan would've been too cool, 945 00:42:43,166 --> 00:42:44,800 he would've been turning up his nose, 946 00:42:44,867 --> 00:42:46,033 and he would've been sneering, 947 00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:47,533 he wouldn't have in a million years 948 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,033 let the clown paint his face. Okay, never. 949 00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,633 He allowed himself to be a kid. 950 00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,333 I-- I saw those layers peel away. 951 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,533 And a lot of it had to do with 952 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,467 how strict the counselors were. They weren't having it. 953 00:43:06,533 --> 00:43:08,700 Evan could try to talk his way out of anything. 954 00:43:08,767 --> 00:43:11,667 And Dan's just saying "I'm not going anywhere." 955 00:43:11,734 --> 00:43:14,633 DAN: Remember, you know, bipolar disorder is not just 956 00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:17,033 a disorder of mood, it's a disorder of judgment. 957 00:43:17,133 --> 00:43:19,367 And for kids that's so debilitating. 958 00:43:19,433 --> 00:43:21,100 If the adults don't hold them close 959 00:43:21,133 --> 00:43:22,500 and make them responsible. 960 00:43:22,567 --> 00:43:25,667 What he needed to know is that you guys were in charge, 961 00:43:25,767 --> 00:43:28,066 and then he could build from your judgment, 962 00:43:28,133 --> 00:43:29,900 and that's what he allowed us to do first, 963 00:43:29,967 --> 00:43:31,667 'cause he looked around, he said, "Okay, 964 00:43:31,767 --> 00:43:34,066 I'm not getting over on these guys, I'll let that happen." 965 00:43:34,133 --> 00:43:36,066 And then we obviously bridge that to you. 966 00:43:36,133 --> 00:43:39,000 It was one of the shortest stays we've really ever had, 967 00:43:39,066 --> 00:43:41,600 uh, of a boy with so much going on in his life. 968 00:43:41,667 --> 00:43:44,467 Three months is really an unusual time 969 00:43:44,533 --> 00:43:46,633 to get all that done. 970 00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:48,967 DANA: By the time Evan finished at Wellspring, 971 00:43:49,033 --> 00:43:50,967 the lithium had definitely kicked in. 972 00:43:51,033 --> 00:43:53,166 Along with the therapy, it was working, 973 00:43:53,233 --> 00:43:55,600 and you couldn't have one without the other. 974 00:43:55,667 --> 00:43:58,967 He seemed well enough to rejoin our family. 975 00:43:59,033 --> 00:44:03,000 HART: The whole family went to Wellspring, and we all learned, 976 00:44:03,066 --> 00:44:07,300 and when it was over, here we had this kid again, 977 00:44:07,367 --> 00:44:09,934 and what do we do with him? 978 00:44:11,667 --> 00:44:14,066 HART: So we decided to see whether we could get him 979 00:44:14,133 --> 00:44:16,834 into a mainstream school which was sensitive 980 00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:18,533 to kids who had issues. 981 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,533 So we got him into a school called York Prep. 982 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,900 And suddenly everything was different. 983 00:44:24,967 --> 00:44:26,066 [BELL RINGING] 984 00:44:28,066 --> 00:44:31,633 We would get a report card and he was, like, 985 00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:34,367 one of the best students in the class. 986 00:44:34,433 --> 00:44:36,066 The teachers were saying 987 00:44:36,133 --> 00:44:40,500 "I wish all my students were like Evan." 988 00:44:40,567 --> 00:44:44,033 He got the prize in the science project. 989 00:44:44,133 --> 00:44:47,300 HART: So what's this? My science fair. 990 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,433 DANA: Now you've got the ribbon. 991 00:44:55,033 --> 00:44:57,667 The ribbon. 992 00:44:57,767 --> 00:44:59,800 BOY: It was so hard, taking them so fast. 993 00:44:59,867 --> 00:45:02,000 There are, like, 40 pictures with digital camera, 994 00:45:02,066 --> 00:45:03,533 and none of 'em worked. 995 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,867 DANA: One of the great things about Evan going to York 996 00:45:05,934 --> 00:45:08,633 is he found such a great group of friends. 997 00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:10,400 It took awhile for him to, like, 998 00:45:10,467 --> 00:45:12,767 kind of gain your trust and stuff like that, 999 00:45:12,834 --> 00:45:14,400 and, um, after awhile, it was-- 1000 00:45:14,467 --> 00:45:17,100 He was just one of those people I could talk to about anything, 1001 00:45:17,166 --> 00:45:18,700 and come to him with any problem. 1002 00:45:18,767 --> 00:45:21,200 Once we started hanging out, I started to, like, you know, 1003 00:45:21,266 --> 00:45:22,533 figure out his interest in toys. 1004 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,266 And I really liked toys, like, toys was my thing, 1005 00:45:25,333 --> 00:45:27,500 and toys was his thing, and cartoons were his thing. 1006 00:45:27,567 --> 00:45:28,633 And cartoons were my thing. 1007 00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:30,133 Well, he was definitely different 1008 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,533 from all the other kids we hung out with. 1009 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,700 Nobody seemed to have strong opinions like him. 1010 00:45:36,767 --> 00:45:39,233 He was really set in his ways. 1011 00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:41,934 And once he had an idea he wasn't gonna let it go. 1012 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,533 Lot of stuff people say in high school they don't really mean 1013 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,934 or they're just trying to be popular, but, like, you know, 1014 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,700 Evan, he would just go right into it, he wouldn't hold back. 1015 00:45:50,767 --> 00:45:54,266 What I liked about Evan was that he, uh, was really creative, 1016 00:45:54,333 --> 00:45:57,734 and was interested in a lot of things that, like, not like-- 1017 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,867 Not just TV. Like, a lot of kids were just watching TV, 1018 00:46:00,934 --> 00:46:02,734 and he was making TV. 1019 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,400 [ALL LAUGHING] 1020 00:46:04,467 --> 00:46:07,200 HART: Evan had various, you know, movie ideas. 1021 00:46:07,266 --> 00:46:11,734 When he was younger he roped me into shooting them. 1022 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,734 HART: Come on, let's start. All right, ready. 1023 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,166 It's rolling now. You guys, shut up! 1024 00:46:16,233 --> 00:46:17,367 HART: Okay, ready? 1025 00:46:17,433 --> 00:46:20,000 Three, two, one, action. 1026 00:46:20,066 --> 00:46:23,934 Hi, I'm Adam Luke, and I'm here to host a new reality TV show 1027 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,734 titled, "What it Takes to be an Astronaut." 1028 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,567 HART: There was a certain amount of chaos 1029 00:46:28,633 --> 00:46:30,433 that was involved in the creation of them. 1030 00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:33,367 All right, a redneck, and then, Gabe, you have to say something. 1031 00:46:33,433 --> 00:46:35,600 You have Chinese ADD, don't forget. 1032 00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:38,033 [IMITATING CHINESE ACCENT] I go to space all the time. 1033 00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:42,233 Spaces. Spaces. No gravity. 1034 00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:44,834 Okay, I'm not Chinese, 'cause it's too hard to be Chinese. 1035 00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:46,867 You're Chi-- You have ADD, what's the ADD about? 1036 00:46:46,934 --> 00:46:48,934 ADD, ADD, no Chinese. 1037 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,100 [ALL LAUGHING] 1038 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,333 Do you know how long it took us 1039 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,700 just to get through these three lines? It took-- 1040 00:46:55,767 --> 00:46:58,000 HART: Just try to play it a little more serious, okay? 1041 00:46:58,066 --> 00:46:59,800 You. Who are you supposed to be? 1042 00:46:59,867 --> 00:47:03,633 HART: It doesn't really-- At this point, it doesn't matter. 1043 00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:05,767 I wanna do-- I wanna do the whole thing over again. 1044 00:47:05,834 --> 00:47:07,700 HART: What do you mean, "the whole thing"? 1045 00:47:07,767 --> 00:47:09,533 'Cause I was-- 1046 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,700 [ALL SINGING INDISTINCTLY] 1047 00:47:13,834 --> 00:47:17,633 ♪ I say, "Yo, man You want to fly through space" ♪ 1048 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,400 WILL: All the films we were making were all disasters. 1049 00:47:20,467 --> 00:47:22,133 We always got too excited about 'em, 1050 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,800 'cause, like, we'd have microphones, 1051 00:47:23,867 --> 00:47:25,567 we have a nice camera, and we'd, like, 1052 00:47:25,633 --> 00:47:27,967 talk about it and talk about it and talk about it. 1053 00:47:28,033 --> 00:47:30,800 And then we'd just-- Wouldn't finish it. 1054 00:47:30,867 --> 00:47:32,600 [♪♪] 1055 00:47:32,667 --> 00:47:36,066 AIDAN: There was a summer Evan went to New York Film Academy, 1056 00:47:36,133 --> 00:47:37,900 and asked me to be in one of his movies. 1057 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,000 The assignment was to shoot, uh, 1058 00:47:41,066 --> 00:47:43,667 in black and white and no sound. 1059 00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:47,066 He made a movie about me waking up 1060 00:47:47,133 --> 00:47:49,767 in a world with no sound and no color. 1061 00:47:49,834 --> 00:47:52,667 [MOUTHING] No! 1062 00:48:19,133 --> 00:48:22,100 I never knew that there was anything wrong with him. 1063 00:48:22,166 --> 00:48:24,133 He took medication. I had no idea. 1064 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,734 Never brought it up. 1065 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,233 Never talked about it. 1066 00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:30,233 Sometimes we got a little suspicious 'cause, like, 1067 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:33,066 he would just be really quiet for a long period of time, 1068 00:48:33,133 --> 00:48:36,767 but we just accustomed to it because he did it a lot. 1069 00:48:36,834 --> 00:48:38,467 He would miss school every now and then. 1070 00:48:38,533 --> 00:48:40,133 I can tell-- I knew-- I would, like, 1071 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,633 I would tell him he's on his period, 1072 00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:45,033 because he's, like, he looks like he-- You know, 1073 00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:47,533 he would have a month where he's just, like, moping around. 1074 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,500 And then he'd have a month where's he's, like, 1075 00:48:49,567 --> 00:48:50,834 really happy, really happy. 1076 00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:53,000 And he would tell me, "Listen, the more happy I get, 1077 00:48:53,066 --> 00:48:54,734 the more pissed off I'm gonna get later." 1078 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,567 AIDAN: One time, I think, going out to the roof, 1079 00:48:57,633 --> 00:49:00,400 I remember him sitting on the ledge, like... 1080 00:49:00,467 --> 00:49:01,667 And it really, like, scared me. 1081 00:49:01,734 --> 00:49:03,567 And he just seemed to be completely fearless, 1082 00:49:03,633 --> 00:49:07,000 like, almost willing to just walk-- Like, walk on the edge. 1083 00:49:07,066 --> 00:49:09,567 And I really, like, kind of yelled at him, like, 1084 00:49:09,633 --> 00:49:11,433 "Get down from the edge," you know. 1085 00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:13,734 That's, like, not something you do. 1086 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,967 And it just-- He kind of distanced himself like that. 1087 00:49:17,033 --> 00:49:18,233 It was almost like showing-- 1088 00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:20,800 Showing me, like, "I don't really care." 1089 00:49:20,867 --> 00:49:22,033 We talked about it a little, 1090 00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:23,633 but he always sort of brushed it away, 1091 00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:26,600 and he sort of said, "But I'm over that now." And... 1092 00:49:26,667 --> 00:49:28,600 We all thought he was pretty good, 1093 00:49:28,667 --> 00:49:30,100 and he always acted really great. 1094 00:49:30,166 --> 00:49:32,066 And there were no real signs of any, like, 1095 00:49:32,133 --> 00:49:33,333 real depression or anything. 1096 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,567 I was totally optimistic about his health 1097 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,633 and the direction that he was gonna go. 1098 00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:43,300 NICHOLAS: When I'd come home from school and spend holidays, 1099 00:49:43,367 --> 00:49:45,467 I remember remarking to myself, you know, 1100 00:49:45,533 --> 00:49:49,400 "This is a much more warm, loving household 1101 00:49:49,467 --> 00:49:53,066 then it was two years earlier. 1102 00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:56,066 I guess that's what I saw after Wellspring, 1103 00:49:56,133 --> 00:49:58,467 that Dana and my father 1104 00:49:58,533 --> 00:50:01,000 really showing him that 1105 00:50:01,066 --> 00:50:05,767 within our family lies a really strong foundation 1106 00:50:05,834 --> 00:50:07,300 that he can trust. 1107 00:50:07,367 --> 00:50:11,767 And during that time it really did seem like 1108 00:50:11,834 --> 00:50:15,000 everything was under control. 1109 00:50:15,066 --> 00:50:17,233 [♪♪] 1110 00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:23,734 HART: As the years went by, after Wellspring, 1111 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,934 and he continued to be the top student in his class, 1112 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,433 he continued to have good friends, 1113 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,700 that there weren't any big issues. 1114 00:50:30,767 --> 00:50:34,300 I thought that maybe he was cured. 1115 00:50:34,367 --> 00:50:36,400 You know, maybe he's gonna have a life. 1116 00:50:36,467 --> 00:50:39,200 You know, I'd go with Evan to visit 1117 00:50:39,266 --> 00:50:41,033 his older brother in college, 1118 00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:43,533 and Evan was, like, looking at college, 1119 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,066 and thinking, "Well, I can do it. 1120 00:50:46,133 --> 00:50:49,533 I can have a life like this." 1121 00:50:51,467 --> 00:50:53,500 You know, as the years proceeded, 1122 00:50:53,567 --> 00:50:57,367 I was not thinking that maybe the telephone was going to ring, 1123 00:50:57,433 --> 00:51:00,600 I was thinking that, "Hey, this-- This kid is different 1124 00:51:00,667 --> 00:51:03,467 from my brother. He's got a shot." 1125 00:51:03,533 --> 00:51:05,700 [♪♪] 1126 00:51:07,633 --> 00:51:12,567 My brother-- There'd never really been a diagnosis. 1127 00:51:12,633 --> 00:51:15,934 He was a successful suicide. 1128 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,967 And that was my big fear about Evan. 1129 00:51:21,834 --> 00:51:25,567 From an early age, both Scott and Evan, 1130 00:51:25,633 --> 00:51:29,867 they were overwhelmed by their emotions. 1131 00:51:29,934 --> 00:51:31,467 With my brother, you know, 1132 00:51:31,533 --> 00:51:34,834 I had learned how to, you know, be his guide. 1133 00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:37,066 You know, we went to the same school, 1134 00:51:37,133 --> 00:51:38,367 we went to the same college. 1135 00:51:38,433 --> 00:51:39,633 We were very close. 1136 00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:42,000 And I'd been my brother's keeper 1137 00:51:42,066 --> 00:51:46,567 up until the point really where he started living with Martine, 1138 00:51:46,633 --> 00:51:48,734 his girlfriend. 1139 00:51:49,967 --> 00:51:52,433 WOMAN: Well, Scott was fun. 1140 00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:54,233 He was brilliant. 1141 00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:57,800 He was very creative, he was a great skier, 1142 00:51:57,867 --> 00:52:00,600 he was an athlete. We went skiing together. 1143 00:52:00,667 --> 00:52:02,400 We really had a lot of fun 1144 00:52:02,467 --> 00:52:05,400 and I was totally seduced when I met him. 1145 00:52:05,467 --> 00:52:08,633 I knew he was taking medication all along 1146 00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:12,033 and I knew he was seeing a psychiatrist. 1147 00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:14,400 He was getting some help. 1148 00:52:14,467 --> 00:52:17,533 I never really-- I had absolutely no experience 1149 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,133 with depression before I met Scott. 1150 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,133 So I knew that there was a problem, 1151 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,033 but I didn't really see it, 1152 00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:27,467 because Scott was always very optimistic, 1153 00:52:27,533 --> 00:52:29,000 and he was very outgoing, 1154 00:52:29,066 --> 00:52:31,100 but I think I was still noticing something 1155 00:52:31,166 --> 00:52:32,967 after the first year. 1156 00:52:33,033 --> 00:52:36,300 He had mood swings, he had ups and downs. 1157 00:52:36,367 --> 00:52:39,767 And the second year trying to kill himself a couple of times 1158 00:52:39,834 --> 00:52:41,200 while he was with me. 1159 00:52:41,266 --> 00:52:43,033 I was supposed to get up in the morning 1160 00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:46,100 and find him dead next to me. 1161 00:52:46,166 --> 00:52:47,867 And he was amazed when he woke up, 1162 00:52:47,934 --> 00:52:49,266 I assume he didn't take enough. 1163 00:52:49,333 --> 00:52:51,633 You know, he was trying to overdose with medication 1164 00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:55,000 and maybe with drugs-- Heroin. 1165 00:52:55,066 --> 00:52:59,266 After his two attempts, he was really able to talk about it, 1166 00:52:59,333 --> 00:53:00,500 and communicate about it, 1167 00:53:00,567 --> 00:53:02,300 and I could really understand, 1168 00:53:02,367 --> 00:53:03,767 as much as I could, 1169 00:53:03,834 --> 00:53:06,734 the depth of the desperation. 1170 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,166 He said he was in a hole. 1171 00:53:09,233 --> 00:53:11,633 In a tunnel, in a hole. There was no way out. 1172 00:53:11,700 --> 00:53:15,000 The pain was... 1173 00:53:15,066 --> 00:53:18,867 so profound, he-- 1174 00:53:18,934 --> 00:53:22,367 He could not imagine going on with it, and living with it, 1175 00:53:22,433 --> 00:53:23,500 even though I was there. 1176 00:53:23,567 --> 00:53:25,033 It did not matter. 1177 00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:28,000 Me and his family were not enough to keep him alive. 1178 00:53:28,066 --> 00:53:32,900 At those moments of such despair and pain, 1179 00:53:32,967 --> 00:53:36,166 the only way out was to die. 1180 00:53:36,233 --> 00:53:39,200 I don't like to think that maybe I wasn't really clued in 1181 00:53:39,266 --> 00:53:41,767 to what was going on, though I probably wasn't, 1182 00:53:41,834 --> 00:53:44,000 because I wasn't willing to accept the fact 1183 00:53:44,066 --> 00:53:49,934 that, uh, anything so terrifying to me could be on the way. 1184 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,734 And particularly because Scott didn't seem like 1185 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,667 an unhappy person. 1186 00:53:56,734 --> 00:54:00,000 All it tells you is that there is so much more 1187 00:54:00,066 --> 00:54:02,567 to know about people you love 1188 00:54:02,633 --> 00:54:06,200 than you can ever really uncover. 1189 00:54:06,266 --> 00:54:08,734 DANA: What happened that weekend when Scott died? 1190 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,400 I don't know. 1191 00:54:10,467 --> 00:54:13,700 Nope. I have not the faintest idea. 1192 00:54:13,767 --> 00:54:16,033 Not the faintest idea. 1193 00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:17,300 DANA: You found him. 1194 00:54:17,367 --> 00:54:18,834 What, what? You found him 1195 00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:20,867 "Who found him"? You found him. 1196 00:54:20,934 --> 00:54:23,500 I found him? 1197 00:54:23,567 --> 00:54:27,166 I don't remember doing that. No. 1198 00:54:27,233 --> 00:54:31,867 What's more, I think I can get along without memory. 1199 00:54:31,934 --> 00:54:34,667 I don't remember at all. 1200 00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:36,700 [♪♪] 1201 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,867 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 1202 00:54:44,066 --> 00:54:47,166 MARTINE: I think it was a Saturday. 1203 00:54:47,233 --> 00:54:50,066 We came for the weekend up here. 1204 00:54:50,133 --> 00:54:51,700 Fourth of July weekend. 1205 00:54:51,767 --> 00:54:53,967 Scott was totally normal. 1206 00:54:54,033 --> 00:54:57,166 Fun, nice. 1207 00:54:57,233 --> 00:55:00,367 Suddenly, we-- You know, it was a beautiful afternoon, 1208 00:55:00,433 --> 00:55:03,734 and we said, "Where is Scott?" 1209 00:55:04,867 --> 00:55:07,934 Scott was not around. 1210 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,166 I knew something was wrong. 1211 00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:19,800 Because I knew that the caretaker had guns. 1212 00:55:19,867 --> 00:55:21,567 And Scott knew that he had guns. 1213 00:55:21,633 --> 00:55:26,266 So I went there and Beati went in another direction. 1214 00:55:26,333 --> 00:55:28,567 I couldn't get inside the house because it was locked. 1215 00:55:28,633 --> 00:55:29,967 I don't exactly remember, 1216 00:55:30,033 --> 00:55:32,266 but I knew he didn't have the guns. 1217 00:55:32,333 --> 00:55:33,834 When I came back 1218 00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:37,533 I saw Beati came back, 1219 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,734 and her lipstick was smeared around her mouth, 1220 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,633 and she said "I just found Scott." 1221 00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:45,934 And she found him in the jeep-- In the car-- 1222 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,300 near the carriage house. 1223 00:55:47,367 --> 00:55:49,500 And what he had done 1224 00:55:49,567 --> 00:55:53,734 was take the hose from the vacuum cleaner, 1225 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,400 and put the hose from the exhaust pipe 1226 00:55:56,467 --> 00:55:59,166 inside the car. 1227 00:56:03,667 --> 00:56:06,300 [LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN'S "MOONLIGHT SONATA" PLAYING] 1228 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,233 HART: When my brother died, 1229 00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:18,066 I decided to make a film. 1230 00:56:21,667 --> 00:56:24,533 It was too painful for me to, like, 1231 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,333 really deal with his suicide, 1232 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,767 So I made the film about a, uh, 1233 00:56:30,834 --> 00:56:33,467 sculptor friend of my mother's who came from Spain 1234 00:56:33,533 --> 00:56:36,667 to make a sculpture for the grave. 1235 00:56:39,967 --> 00:56:43,900 I documented the process of making the sculpture. 1236 00:56:43,967 --> 00:56:46,266 And the instillation. 1237 00:56:51,266 --> 00:56:55,066 I thought that maybe in the course of making the film 1238 00:56:55,133 --> 00:56:59,000 I could find some meaning about my brother's suicide. 1239 00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:13,500 MARTINE: It took me about seven, eight years 1240 00:57:13,567 --> 00:57:16,500 to come back to normal. 1241 00:57:16,567 --> 00:57:20,000 I was mutilated when he died. I was mutilated. 1242 00:57:20,066 --> 00:57:22,500 Half of me was dead. 1243 00:57:22,567 --> 00:57:26,100 Completely dead. 1244 00:57:42,567 --> 00:57:45,867 HART: My parents were shattered. 1245 00:57:45,934 --> 00:57:49,400 It was like broken glass. Shattered. 1246 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,900 HART: What-- What did happen to him? 1247 00:58:00,967 --> 00:58:05,834 Well, he obviously committed suicide. 1248 00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:08,200 HART: Why do you think he did it? 1249 00:58:08,266 --> 00:58:09,533 "Why did he do it?" 1250 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,533 Well, he was... 1251 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,767 in a terrible state of depression. 1252 00:58:15,834 --> 00:58:19,000 What brought on the depression, I don't know. 1253 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,000 I don't know. I don't know. 1254 00:58:36,133 --> 00:58:38,567 I can't tell you. 1255 00:58:45,533 --> 00:58:47,600 I can't tell you. 1256 00:58:47,667 --> 00:58:50,500 I can't tell you. The words don't exist 1257 00:58:50,567 --> 00:58:54,567 to tell another person 1258 00:58:54,633 --> 00:58:57,800 how destroyed 1259 00:58:57,867 --> 00:58:59,934 part of you has been. 1260 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,467 They just don't exist. 1261 00:59:01,533 --> 00:59:03,633 I can't tell you. But I can tell you 1262 00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:06,400 that it's something you never recover from. 1263 00:59:07,767 --> 00:59:11,633 What is true is that life goes on, 1264 00:59:11,700 --> 00:59:13,467 but not the way you wanted it to, 1265 00:59:13,533 --> 00:59:16,667 and not the way you planned for it to. 1266 00:59:16,734 --> 00:59:19,367 But you don't recover. 1267 00:59:19,433 --> 00:59:21,300 I don't think. 1268 00:59:21,367 --> 00:59:23,533 [♪♪] 1269 00:59:28,367 --> 00:59:30,467 [BIRD CAWING] 1270 00:59:39,567 --> 00:59:41,700 HART: I thought if Evan was going to kill himself, 1271 00:59:41,767 --> 00:59:45,000 it'd be similar to my experience with my brother. 1272 00:59:45,066 --> 00:59:48,767 It was like a slow decline. 1273 00:59:48,834 --> 00:59:52,867 But Evan seemed to be actually doing pretty well. 1274 00:59:52,934 --> 00:59:55,700 What can I get you? BOY: I want a beer. 1275 00:59:55,767 --> 00:59:58,266 Light? Yeah. 1276 00:59:58,333 --> 01:00:00,600 [BOY BELCHES] 1277 01:00:00,667 --> 01:00:02,133 Ha-ha. 1278 01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:05,066 So why are you out so late? 1279 01:00:05,133 --> 01:00:07,500 Well, I've just seen a Kiss concert, man. 1280 01:00:07,567 --> 01:00:10,033 Kiss rules! Kiss rocks! 1281 01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:12,567 [BOTH YELLING INDISTINCTLY] 1282 01:00:12,633 --> 01:00:14,800 HART: That's good, now watch him leave. 1283 01:00:14,867 --> 01:00:16,867 Hey, hey, hey. 1284 01:00:16,934 --> 01:00:18,367 HART: He didn't pay. 1285 01:00:18,433 --> 01:00:22,000 Yeah. I just went like, "Hey!" 1286 01:00:22,066 --> 01:00:23,600 HART: Run, run, Mike. 1287 01:00:23,667 --> 01:00:25,467 Run, Evan. 1288 01:00:25,533 --> 01:00:27,667 You know, I mean, Evan was never, you know, 1289 01:00:27,734 --> 01:00:31,567 like an over-the-top, effervescent, happy kid. 1290 01:00:31,633 --> 01:00:34,834 But from all the-- The markers: 1291 01:00:34,900 --> 01:00:37,367 Is he getting into trouble? No. 1292 01:00:37,433 --> 01:00:38,967 Not at all. 1293 01:00:39,033 --> 01:00:40,800 Can you do the fish? 1294 01:00:40,867 --> 01:00:42,867 The fish! Like this. 1295 01:00:42,934 --> 01:00:45,934 I can do the snake. Like that. 1296 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,633 I can do the seashell. 1297 01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:49,200 HART: Have we seen the police? 1298 01:00:49,266 --> 01:00:50,834 And we certainly did see the police 1299 01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:53,800 for a number of occasions before Wellspring. 1300 01:00:53,867 --> 01:00:55,166 No police. 1301 01:00:55,233 --> 01:00:57,333 [SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY] 1302 01:00:58,767 --> 01:01:00,600 Take it with me. 1303 01:01:00,667 --> 01:01:04,266 DANA: Evan was doing so well. It was like a miracle. 1304 01:01:04,333 --> 01:01:07,700 We couldn't believe it. You just couldn't believe it. 1305 01:01:09,533 --> 01:01:12,500 Is this the same kid? I mean, here he is, and he's growing, 1306 01:01:12,567 --> 01:01:15,433 and he's popular, and he has his lovely friends, 1307 01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:17,767 and they have a wonderful time. 1308 01:01:17,834 --> 01:01:19,333 Suddenly there's hair there 1309 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,834 and his jaw gets firmer and he's taller than I am. 1310 01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:24,900 And he's a man. He's a young man. 1311 01:01:24,967 --> 01:01:27,100 Very handsome, very popular with the girls. 1312 01:01:27,166 --> 01:01:29,633 But not really all that interested in them. 1313 01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:31,767 His voice went from like this to like this. 1314 01:01:31,834 --> 01:01:34,000 Like, you're-- You're in the shot. 1315 01:01:34,066 --> 01:01:35,266 Like-- 1316 01:01:35,333 --> 01:01:36,600 [ALL LAUGHING] 1317 01:01:39,467 --> 01:01:41,533 Like, let's worry about the door shot, 1318 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,200 let's do that when I'm not filming. 1319 01:01:43,233 --> 01:01:45,033 BOY: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, do the shot. 1320 01:01:45,133 --> 01:01:47,834 You know, like after he comes in you can do that-- 1321 01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:49,100 BOY: All right. 1322 01:01:49,166 --> 01:01:50,767 DANA: He really hated being sick. 1323 01:01:50,834 --> 01:01:53,600 GIRL: We went-- We were like-- Did you hear us yelling outside? 1324 01:01:53,667 --> 01:01:54,967 We were like, "Evan!" 1325 01:01:55,033 --> 01:01:56,600 Three E, 3W, whatever. 1326 01:01:56,667 --> 01:01:57,867 He didn't wanna be different. 1327 01:01:57,934 --> 01:01:59,066 What teenage boy does? 1328 01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:00,567 Yeah, so I'll see you guys later. 1329 01:02:00,633 --> 01:02:02,567 In, like, half an hour. I just have to wait for-- 1330 01:02:02,633 --> 01:02:04,500 Okay, it's just Angela's around the corner. 1331 01:02:04,567 --> 01:02:05,600 All right. Bye. 1332 01:02:05,667 --> 01:02:07,400 I'll see you soon. Bye! 1333 01:02:07,467 --> 01:02:09,567 [CHATTER] 1334 01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,867 GIRL: Oh, my gosh, what? 1335 01:02:15,033 --> 01:02:17,000 Oh, are we talking about this again? 1336 01:02:20,467 --> 01:02:22,767 Are you better now? Yay. 1337 01:02:22,834 --> 01:02:24,333 High five. 1338 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,200 NICHOLAS: A lot of the time he seemed really out of it to me. 1339 01:02:27,266 --> 01:02:30,800 And I really attributed that to his drugs. 1340 01:02:30,867 --> 01:02:34,066 'Cause I remember going through a turnstile door with him 1341 01:02:34,133 --> 01:02:36,734 and him sort of just stopping in the middle, 1342 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,266 or not really paying attention 1343 01:02:38,333 --> 01:02:39,934 to what was going on around him, 1344 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,433 and I'd stop and say "What is it with this kid?" 1345 01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:44,867 And I'd say, "Oh, well, he's taking lithium." 1346 01:02:44,934 --> 01:02:46,900 DANA: We had been talking for a while 1347 01:02:46,967 --> 01:02:48,967 about trying without the medication, 1348 01:02:49,033 --> 01:02:51,000 'cause it made him tired, it made his mouth dry, 1349 01:02:51,066 --> 01:02:53,500 it was really something he didn't wanna do. 1350 01:02:53,567 --> 01:02:56,066 So we said "Okay. 1351 01:02:56,133 --> 01:02:59,633 You know, you-- You really wanna try this?" 1352 01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:01,033 And he really did. 1353 01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:03,367 And the doctor said, "Okay." 1354 01:03:03,433 --> 01:03:07,133 So he gradually went down in the lithium dose 1355 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,834 over a course of four to six weeks. 1356 01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:13,266 LADD: "March 30th, 2005. 1357 01:03:13,333 --> 01:03:15,333 "Lithium 0.56. 1358 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,667 "Now sub therapeutic. 1359 01:03:17,734 --> 01:03:21,100 "Was 1200 milligrams, didn't take meds for a few days, 1360 01:03:21,166 --> 01:03:22,800 "became quote 'more talkative.' 1361 01:03:22,867 --> 01:03:26,633 "At first, decreased lithium was difficult, 1362 01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:28,600 "now fine. 1363 01:03:28,667 --> 01:03:32,033 He feels better on lower dose." 1364 01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:34,066 After awhile I wasn't that conv-- 1365 01:03:34,133 --> 01:03:35,900 You know, that he really was-- 1366 01:03:35,967 --> 01:03:38,133 I mean, I knew he was bipolar, but-- 1367 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,734 He seemed so fine. 1368 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,700 Also, I remember we talked to him head on, 1369 01:03:43,767 --> 01:03:46,967 "Do you have thoughts of suicide? 1370 01:03:47,033 --> 01:03:49,400 Do you wanna kill yourself? Do you wanna harm yourself?" 1371 01:03:49,467 --> 01:03:51,934 And he said no, you know. 1372 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,867 "I don't." 1373 01:03:53,934 --> 01:03:55,100 [♪♪] 1374 01:03:57,300 --> 01:04:00,633 WOMAN: Kids know that if they say certain things, 1375 01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:03,834 or if they do certain things, they're gonna be stopped. 1376 01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:05,633 You know. Especially if they have parents 1377 01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:08,300 who are attentive to what's going on with them. 1378 01:04:08,367 --> 01:04:11,867 So if a kid really doesn't wanna be stopped, 1379 01:04:11,934 --> 01:04:14,433 he's not gonna say anything. 1380 01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:16,934 Evan may have gotten to the point where he got really-- 1381 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,800 Just better at masking it externally. 1382 01:04:19,867 --> 01:04:23,633 But internally, it's a lot of suffering, 1383 01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:25,400 and this was just the beginning, I mean, 1384 01:04:25,467 --> 01:04:27,433 it started when he was much younger, 1385 01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:30,633 and it wasn't going away. 1386 01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:33,867 HART: We went on vacation for two weeks in Nantucket. 1387 01:04:33,934 --> 01:04:37,000 And he seemed depressed. He seemed subdued. 1388 01:04:37,066 --> 01:04:38,600 Didn't seem too happy. 1389 01:04:38,633 --> 01:04:41,467 He wasn't doing good. 1390 01:04:41,533 --> 01:04:43,266 DANA: Then school started. 1391 01:04:43,333 --> 01:04:46,367 He's sullen, he's depressed. 1392 01:04:46,433 --> 01:04:49,000 As the weeks unfolded in September, 1393 01:04:49,066 --> 01:04:51,200 he started getting more anxious about his homework. 1394 01:04:51,266 --> 01:04:54,166 And at one point, he came to me and he said very seriously, 1395 01:04:54,233 --> 01:04:55,934 "Mom, I need your help. 1396 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,000 I need you to stay after me." 1397 01:04:59,066 --> 01:05:01,800 HART: We had contacted his psychiatrist 1398 01:05:01,867 --> 01:05:04,934 and tried to make a meeting as soon as possible 1399 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,900 to increase his dose of lithium. 1400 01:05:07,967 --> 01:05:10,166 DANA: We said, "Let's get him back on the lithium, 1401 01:05:10,233 --> 01:05:11,867 this experiment didn't work." 1402 01:05:11,934 --> 01:05:13,800 So we made an appointment with the doctor 1403 01:05:13,867 --> 01:05:17,467 for the following Tuesday. October 4th. 1404 01:05:17,533 --> 01:05:19,700 [♪♪] 1405 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,367 ADAM: We hung out with him that Friday night. 1406 01:05:24,433 --> 01:05:27,900 We went to another teen club, me and Nick. 1407 01:05:27,967 --> 01:05:31,233 We invited Evan to go, but he just didn't want to. 1408 01:05:31,300 --> 01:05:33,333 I mean, it might've been his curfew or whatever, 1409 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,700 he just didn't wanna go. 1410 01:05:34,767 --> 01:05:37,066 And we didn't think it was that big of a deal. 1411 01:05:37,133 --> 01:05:38,433 We were just like, "Whatever, 1412 01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:41,100 he wants to go home and chill, so..." 1413 01:05:41,166 --> 01:05:43,333 There was nothing really beforehand 1414 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:44,967 that we could've seen. 1415 01:05:45,033 --> 01:05:47,367 I think if, like, 1416 01:05:47,433 --> 01:05:50,000 if someone is that sure 1417 01:05:50,066 --> 01:05:51,700 that they wanna do that to themselves, 1418 01:05:51,767 --> 01:05:54,633 they're gonna hide it from someone, you know. 1419 01:05:58,033 --> 01:06:01,033 NICHOLAS: The night he died I came over for dinner. 1420 01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:03,900 It was a Sunday evening. 1421 01:06:03,967 --> 01:06:05,166 We were all eating together, 1422 01:06:05,233 --> 01:06:09,633 and I know Evan had some homework that was unfinished, 1423 01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:12,834 and he was... 1424 01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:14,467 being a little obnoxious 1425 01:06:14,533 --> 01:06:16,133 about not wanting to do his homework, 1426 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,667 and started putting his feet on the table, 1427 01:06:18,734 --> 01:06:22,333 and, you know, his mom was nagging him about his homework. 1428 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,900 And they had a tiff. 1429 01:06:24,967 --> 01:06:26,767 And he was mad. 1430 01:06:26,834 --> 01:06:29,367 The fight was very intense. 1431 01:06:29,433 --> 01:06:30,734 As it often was. 1432 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,533 And, um, you know, really just deeply intense. 1433 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,734 I was doing the dishes, and I was hot. 1434 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,166 You know. I was tired of this. 1435 01:06:39,233 --> 01:06:42,967 And he goes up the stairs and he said, "Mom, I hate you." 1436 01:06:43,033 --> 01:06:46,000 HART: And he shuts the door. And he locks it. 1437 01:06:46,066 --> 01:06:50,200 NICHOLAS: Leaving that night, I didn't think anything of it. 1438 01:06:50,266 --> 01:06:54,200 He wasn't behaving in any way that would make me think, 1439 01:06:54,266 --> 01:06:57,533 "This child is gonna end his life tonight." 1440 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,000 Not in a million, million, million years. 1441 01:07:01,066 --> 01:07:03,967 I mean, on my good days 1442 01:07:04,033 --> 01:07:06,800 I've acted worse than him at dinner. 1443 01:07:06,867 --> 01:07:08,867 By this time it's around 10:00, 1444 01:07:08,934 --> 01:07:13,100 and I went into our bedroom with Mikey, 1445 01:07:13,166 --> 01:07:14,667 and we're both reading. 1446 01:07:14,734 --> 01:07:16,900 I was reading for a little bit, 1447 01:07:16,967 --> 01:07:19,900 and I go to check in on Evan. 1448 01:07:19,967 --> 01:07:21,166 And he's unlocked the door. 1449 01:07:21,233 --> 01:07:23,867 I go in he's sitting in his underwear 1450 01:07:23,934 --> 01:07:26,667 on his bed with his computer 1451 01:07:26,734 --> 01:07:28,600 And, you know, I came over and I said, 1452 01:07:28,667 --> 01:07:32,834 "Well, how you doing? What's-- What's happening?" 1453 01:07:32,900 --> 01:07:35,333 And he said, "I'm fine, Dad. 1454 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,700 I'm doing my homework." 1455 01:07:37,767 --> 01:07:40,166 His computer, it looked as though he was 1456 01:07:40,233 --> 01:07:41,967 doing his homework, 1457 01:07:42,033 --> 01:07:44,934 so I go back to read with Mikey 1458 01:07:45,033 --> 01:07:49,300 for another five minutes, and, uh, 1459 01:07:49,367 --> 01:07:51,367 you know, it's Mikey's bedtime. 1460 01:07:51,433 --> 01:07:53,600 So I bring Mikey into the room 1461 01:07:53,667 --> 01:07:57,433 and Evan's not there. 1462 01:07:57,500 --> 01:07:59,333 [♪♪] 1463 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,033 I immediately thought that he had jumped out the window. 1464 01:08:04,667 --> 01:08:08,567 But it was an airshaft so you couldn't really see anything. 1465 01:08:10,667 --> 01:08:14,066 Mikey shows up with this little penlight 1466 01:08:14,133 --> 01:08:15,767 and I shine it down the shaft, 1467 01:08:15,834 --> 01:08:19,033 and I think I see something but it's hard to tell. 1468 01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:21,700 Uh, and I'm starting to, you know, 1469 01:08:21,767 --> 01:08:24,166 feel pretty concerned at this point, 1470 01:08:24,233 --> 01:08:27,400 and I run downstairs to find the super, 1471 01:08:27,467 --> 01:08:30,533 who had access to the airshaft. 1472 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,100 I guess I was downstairs and, uh, 1473 01:08:34,166 --> 01:08:37,834 about to recline and watch TV 1474 01:08:37,900 --> 01:08:40,667 and I was, uh, half asleep, I guess. 1475 01:08:40,734 --> 01:08:43,400 And nothing unusual, 1476 01:08:43,467 --> 01:08:45,934 I just heard a noise. 1477 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,200 And I thought nothing of it. 1478 01:08:48,266 --> 01:08:52,066 I thought maybe the girl upstairs dropped something. 1479 01:08:52,133 --> 01:08:53,867 Nothing. Nothing. 1480 01:08:53,934 --> 01:08:57,533 And I guess, I don't know how many minutes later, 1481 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,066 uh, somebody came banging on-- Was banging on my door. 1482 01:09:01,133 --> 01:09:03,700 We were with Roger, we had the light. 1483 01:09:03,767 --> 01:09:06,867 I had, um, a cell phone and keys. 1484 01:09:06,934 --> 01:09:09,667 And, uh, we went through this labyrinth, some kind of way. 1485 01:09:09,734 --> 01:09:13,033 And Hart got there first. And, um, and Evan was there. 1486 01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:16,734 And, um, he was on his back, 1487 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,133 and there was blood. 1488 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,934 I thought he might be alive. 1489 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:26,033 But I-- I felt his pulse, and he wasn't. 1490 01:09:32,166 --> 01:09:34,233 So it got pretty chaotic. 1491 01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:35,800 I was screaming, "Evan, Evan, 1492 01:09:35,867 --> 01:09:38,133 Evan, Evan, Evan, Evan!" 1493 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,233 You know, "Evan." I just-- "Please." 1494 01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:43,700 And I went-- And Hart was in front of me, 1495 01:09:43,767 --> 01:09:47,400 and I said, "Get out of the way, I wanna give him mouth-to-mouth, 1496 01:09:47,467 --> 01:09:49,834 I wanna-- Move out of the way." 1497 01:09:49,900 --> 01:09:52,600 And he said, "Dana, just go-- 1498 01:09:52,667 --> 01:09:55,266 The paramedics are coming, go upstairs, take care of Michael, 1499 01:09:55,333 --> 01:09:57,633 take care of-- It's okay. And he was very calm. 1500 01:09:57,700 --> 01:09:59,600 I called Nick 1501 01:09:59,667 --> 01:10:03,166 to come and look after 1502 01:10:03,233 --> 01:10:05,033 Mikey and Dana, 1503 01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:09,266 'cause I had to go to the hospital with-- With Evan. 1504 01:10:09,333 --> 01:10:10,600 I was there comforting Michael, 1505 01:10:10,667 --> 01:10:12,266 and we were praying and I thought 1506 01:10:12,333 --> 01:10:13,800 that maybe he'd still live, 1507 01:10:13,867 --> 01:10:16,934 maybe he's just broken some bones, maybe he'll live. 1508 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,200 And, um, at some point, 1509 01:10:18,266 --> 01:10:19,700 I don't know when, but Nick showed up. 1510 01:10:19,767 --> 01:10:22,333 NICHOLAS: We pulled up in front of the house, 1511 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,767 there were police cars outside, 1512 01:10:23,834 --> 01:10:26,400 it was, like, "This is fucking real. This is real." 1513 01:10:26,467 --> 01:10:28,633 And I walked into the apartment, 1514 01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:32,433 and there were police officers downstairs. 1515 01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:34,066 You know, they looked at me 1516 01:10:34,133 --> 01:10:36,867 and started approaching me to say, you know, "Who are you?" 1517 01:10:36,934 --> 01:10:40,433 And I pushed them out of the way and just ran to Dana. 1518 01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:42,567 And Michael was so amazing, 'cause he kept saying, 1519 01:10:42,633 --> 01:10:45,166 "Mom, he's gonna be okay, Mom, he's gonna be okay. 1520 01:10:45,233 --> 01:10:47,900 Mom, he's gonna be okay, Mom, he's gonna be okay." 1521 01:10:47,967 --> 01:10:50,266 And we're just holding each other, and then, you know, 1522 01:10:50,333 --> 01:10:53,100 then Hart called and I just knew immediately-- 1523 01:10:53,166 --> 01:10:55,467 Just knew immediately what happened, that he was dead. 1524 01:10:55,533 --> 01:10:57,934 I just couldn't believe it. 1525 01:10:59,900 --> 01:11:02,767 So then, um, Jean drove me to the hospital, 1526 01:11:02,834 --> 01:11:06,033 and he was at St. Vincent's, where he had been before, 1527 01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:09,567 and I was taken into the room where he was, 1528 01:11:09,633 --> 01:11:12,233 on the stretcher, and, um-- 1529 01:11:18,066 --> 01:11:21,266 Um, you know, he wasn't cold, and he had his, um, 1530 01:11:21,333 --> 01:11:22,600 he had his boxer shorts on. 1531 01:11:22,667 --> 01:11:25,333 I took the sheet down like this, I held him, 1532 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,367 and, um, I closed his eyes. 1533 01:11:28,433 --> 01:11:30,533 And that was it. 1534 01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:35,900 And then... 1535 01:11:35,967 --> 01:11:39,233 I got a call in the car 1536 01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:42,200 from Nick, 1537 01:11:42,266 --> 01:11:45,567 and he said, "I found his note. 1538 01:11:45,633 --> 01:11:46,700 I found his note." 1539 01:11:46,767 --> 01:11:48,934 [♪♪] 1540 01:11:50,433 --> 01:11:53,800 NICHOLAS: I remember the officers asking me 1541 01:11:53,867 --> 01:11:55,633 whether there was a suicide note, 1542 01:11:55,700 --> 01:11:58,433 and I hadn't even thought about that, 1543 01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:01,300 and we looked around his room, 1544 01:12:01,367 --> 01:12:04,066 and there was nothing, and then he pointed to the computer, 1545 01:12:04,133 --> 01:12:07,633 and opened it, touched the screen, 1546 01:12:07,700 --> 01:12:10,333 and, sure enough, 1547 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,500 a letter came up. 1548 01:12:13,567 --> 01:12:15,700 [♪♪] 1549 01:13:25,333 --> 01:13:26,400 To be honest, 1550 01:13:26,467 --> 01:13:30,367 the gist of the letter was... 1551 01:13:30,433 --> 01:13:33,400 what every fucking 15-year-old 1552 01:13:33,467 --> 01:13:35,233 thinks about themself. 1553 01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:38,066 That "I'm not good enough, 1554 01:13:38,133 --> 01:13:40,600 "no one likes me, 1555 01:13:40,667 --> 01:13:43,166 things won't get better." 1556 01:13:43,233 --> 01:13:46,367 The difference is Evan felt that 1557 01:13:46,433 --> 01:13:49,100 20,000 times stronger 1558 01:13:49,166 --> 01:13:51,500 than any normal 15-year-old, 1559 01:13:51,567 --> 01:13:55,100 and he believed more strongly 1560 01:13:55,166 --> 01:13:56,667 that things wouldn't get better 1561 01:13:56,734 --> 01:13:58,633 and that there was no future, 1562 01:13:58,700 --> 01:14:03,333 and living was too painful, 1563 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,233 too difficult, and... 1564 01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:10,667 death was his only answer. 1565 01:14:10,734 --> 01:14:13,367 But it was, I mean, verbatim-- 1566 01:14:13,467 --> 01:14:17,367 I could've checked off that list and, you know, 1567 01:14:17,467 --> 01:14:21,567 if he had showed me that note before he made his decision, 1568 01:14:21,667 --> 01:14:23,500 I could've gone through it with him and said, 1569 01:14:23,567 --> 01:14:26,667 "Thought that, thought that, thought that. 1570 01:14:26,734 --> 01:14:29,266 "I realized they're all untrue for me, 1571 01:14:29,367 --> 01:14:33,266 "they're definitely all untrue for you. 1572 01:14:33,333 --> 01:14:36,066 "You know, and some of the qualities about yourself 1573 01:14:36,133 --> 01:14:37,834 "that make you feel different right now, 1574 01:14:37,900 --> 01:14:39,734 "you're gonna learn in five years 1575 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,333 "that those are your best qualities, 1576 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,700 "and those are what set you apart from people 1577 01:14:44,767 --> 01:14:46,166 "and make you interesting 1578 01:14:46,233 --> 01:14:50,000 and attract others to you." 1579 01:14:50,066 --> 01:14:53,433 But, you know, 1580 01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:56,967 that opportunity did not arise. 1581 01:15:06,166 --> 01:15:08,700 So, what do you make of that? 1582 01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:12,467 I think 1583 01:15:12,533 --> 01:15:16,066 that he foresaw-- 1584 01:15:16,133 --> 01:15:17,700 He must have been getting 1585 01:15:17,767 --> 01:15:21,233 a glimpse of adult life, 1586 01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:23,433 and that he foresaw 1587 01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:26,433 that he was not going to make it 1588 01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:28,600 in the way that he wanted to make it. 1589 01:15:29,633 --> 01:15:32,500 You know, in psychiatry, 1590 01:15:32,567 --> 01:15:34,266 bipolar is our cancer. 1591 01:15:34,333 --> 01:15:36,166 It kills people. 1592 01:15:36,233 --> 01:15:39,233 You do everything you can, and some people can be saved, 1593 01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:41,000 and probably we could've saved-- 1594 01:15:41,066 --> 01:15:44,967 Definitely we could've saved him for a while, 1595 01:15:45,033 --> 01:15:47,433 but he would have gone off his medication, 1596 01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:50,800 They-- All these kids do, they all go off them. 1597 01:15:50,867 --> 01:15:53,900 And when he went off, he just went so fast. 1598 01:15:53,967 --> 01:15:55,834 Maybe his illness was changing 1599 01:15:55,900 --> 01:15:58,867 into the type where people really do get crazy. 1600 01:15:58,934 --> 01:16:00,333 He never talked about any of this? 1601 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,367 Any of that. No. 1602 01:16:01,433 --> 01:16:03,233 No? He never talked--? Any of that. 1603 01:16:03,300 --> 01:16:05,700 He denied feeling it, he never talked about any of this. 1604 01:16:05,767 --> 01:16:09,734 Never did he say anything like he didn't trust his friends? 1605 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,633 But this is crazy talk. That's crazy talk. 1606 01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:13,433 HART: I mean, you know... Crazy talk, 1607 01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:14,633 but it's done so sanely. 1608 01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:17,233 Numbered, and so precise. 1609 01:16:17,300 --> 01:16:20,967 That's what makes me so mad with all the portrayals of, uh, 1610 01:16:21,033 --> 01:16:24,667 mental illness that you see on TV and movies, 1611 01:16:24,734 --> 01:16:28,734 it's like raving, crazy, foaming at the mouth, 1612 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,033 not, you know, "sanely" sitting there-- 1613 01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:36,500 Hyper-sanely-- typing this, you know, horrible thing out. 1614 01:16:36,567 --> 01:16:37,900 Ch, ch, ch, ch, ch. 1615 01:16:37,967 --> 01:16:41,533 Just with thought, already knowing he was gonna do it. 1616 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,166 You know, that's insanity. 1617 01:16:44,233 --> 01:16:46,400 [♪♪] 1618 01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,567 [THUNDER CRASHES] 1619 01:17:45,066 --> 01:17:48,867 On behalf of the congregation of this church 1620 01:17:48,934 --> 01:17:50,567 I would like to welcome all of you 1621 01:17:50,633 --> 01:17:54,533 in mourning the passing of Evan today. 1622 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,900 This is a place... 1623 01:17:56,967 --> 01:17:58,867 MARTINE: When I went to Evan's funeral, 1624 01:17:58,934 --> 01:18:03,266 I felt that I was going through the same thing again, 1625 01:18:03,333 --> 01:18:05,667 it was like a repeat. It was the same church, 1626 01:18:05,734 --> 01:18:08,200 it was the same family. 1627 01:18:08,266 --> 01:18:12,600 It was that little boy, 35 years later. 1628 01:18:12,667 --> 01:18:14,667 And Beati was with me. 1629 01:18:14,734 --> 01:18:18,834 Scott's mother-- And Evan's grandmother, 1630 01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:21,066 and Hart's mother-- was sitting next to me 1631 01:18:21,133 --> 01:18:23,400 and hold-- Hanging onto me, 1632 01:18:23,467 --> 01:18:25,633 and she would say during the ceremony, 1633 01:18:25,700 --> 01:18:28,433 she would say, "Martine, why did Scott die? 1634 01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:30,166 Why did Scott kill himself?" 1635 01:18:30,233 --> 01:18:33,233 And, you know, she knew that she had a son 1636 01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:35,166 who committed suicide, 1637 01:18:35,233 --> 01:18:39,200 and who died, but she could not remember. 1638 01:18:39,266 --> 01:18:41,367 [CONGREGATION PRAYING] 1639 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,667 I was briefly trying to explain to her 1640 01:18:48,734 --> 01:18:51,800 that it was the same disease, 1641 01:18:51,867 --> 01:18:55,000 that he died for the same reasons Evan died. 1642 01:18:55,066 --> 01:18:58,166 I feel relieved to know that Evan has found peace, 1643 01:18:58,233 --> 01:19:00,967 even if it means that we must take on pain. 1644 01:19:01,033 --> 01:19:03,233 Through his memory we realize 1645 01:19:03,300 --> 01:19:06,734 the extreme precariousness and preciousness of life. 1646 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,633 We must cherish and savor the lives we have, 1647 01:19:09,700 --> 01:19:11,600 the relationships we enjoy, 1648 01:19:11,667 --> 01:19:16,033 as much as we can for as long as we can. 1649 01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:18,200 [SOFT MUSIC PLAYING] 1650 01:19:22,266 --> 01:19:25,533 ♪ May God bless And keep you always ♪ 1651 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,533 ♪ May your wishes All come true ♪ 1652 01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,533 ♪ May you always do for others ♪ 1653 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,667 ♪ That others do for you ♪ 1654 01:19:34,734 --> 01:19:37,800 ♪ May you build a ladder To the stars ♪ 1655 01:19:37,867 --> 01:19:40,133 ♪ Climb on every rung ♪ 1656 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,166 ♪ May you stay ♪ 1657 01:19:45,633 --> 01:19:50,667 BOTH: ♪ Forever young ♪ 1658 01:19:50,734 --> 01:19:53,000 A lot of the time, before I go to sleep, 1659 01:19:53,066 --> 01:19:55,734 sometimes I just, I mean, 1660 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,433 I can't help but think about him. 1661 01:19:58,500 --> 01:20:00,333 You don't wanna, like, 1662 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,433 make everything depressed 1663 01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:07,033 by talking about it every day, you know? 1664 01:20:07,133 --> 01:20:10,033 But it's always there, you know. 1665 01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:12,233 I mean, you can't not talk about it. 1666 01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:13,500 When I read his note, 1667 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,400 I could tell that it was spirit of the moment, 1668 01:20:16,467 --> 01:20:18,667 and that, hopefully at least, 1669 01:20:18,734 --> 01:20:21,600 he didn't mean some of the stuff that he said. 1670 01:20:21,667 --> 01:20:24,633 His note, it didn't come from the Evan I knew. 1671 01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:27,500 It was just-- It was depressing 1672 01:20:27,567 --> 01:20:31,533 to see, like, just the horrible stuff he said 1673 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,667 about not having friends, and... 1674 01:20:36,633 --> 01:20:39,600 I know he didn't mean it. 1675 01:20:44,033 --> 01:20:48,066 BOTH: ♪ May you stay ♪ 1676 01:20:49,734 --> 01:20:53,100 ♪ Forever young ♪ 1677 01:20:55,900 --> 01:20:58,533 To thy hands, oh merciful savior, 1678 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,567 we command thy servant, Evan. 1679 01:21:02,633 --> 01:21:06,467 Receive him into the arms of thy mercy, 1680 01:21:06,533 --> 01:21:10,433 into the blessed rest of everlasting peace, 1681 01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:12,734 and into the glorious company 1682 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,600 of the saints in light. 1683 01:21:15,667 --> 01:21:17,734 Amen. ALL: Amen. 1684 01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:21,667 [♪♪] 1685 01:22:03,633 --> 01:22:05,734 [THUNDER CRASHES] 1686 01:22:19,867 --> 01:22:23,100 They forgot to, uh, dig the-- 1687 01:22:23,166 --> 01:22:24,567 MAN: 1688 01:22:24,633 --> 01:22:26,700 Everything but the hole. 1689 01:22:31,633 --> 01:22:34,000 Well, anyway, who would've told them where to dig it? 1690 01:22:34,066 --> 01:22:36,066 I don't know how these things work. 1691 01:22:36,133 --> 01:22:38,400 I don't know, you know. 1692 01:22:38,467 --> 01:22:40,233 Somebody has to mark off where-- 1693 01:22:40,300 --> 01:22:43,033 All right, we'll do it, we'll do it. 1694 01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:45,433 [THUNDER CRASHES] 1695 01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:47,567 Oh, you. 1696 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:52,700 WOMAN: 1697 01:22:52,767 --> 01:22:54,066 Oh, he's laughing, all right. 1698 01:22:54,133 --> 01:22:55,667 Mm-hm. You better believe it. 1699 01:22:55,734 --> 01:22:59,200 He's roaring over this weather. 1700 01:22:59,266 --> 01:23:01,400 He that raised up Jesus from the dead 1701 01:23:01,467 --> 01:23:04,166 will also give life to our mortal bodies 1702 01:23:04,233 --> 01:23:08,567 in the sure and certain hope of the resurrection to eternal life 1703 01:23:08,633 --> 01:23:10,934 through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1704 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,500 We command to almighty God our brother, Evan, 1705 01:23:14,567 --> 01:23:16,800 and we commit his body to the ground, 1706 01:23:16,867 --> 01:23:19,533 earth to earth, ashes to ashes, 1707 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,500 dust to dust. Amen. 1708 01:23:22,567 --> 01:23:24,433 ALL: Amen. 1709 01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:26,700 [♪♪] 1710 01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:46,600 [THUNDER CRASHES] 1711 01:24:01,867 --> 01:24:05,500 MARTINE: When somebody is that deep 1712 01:24:05,567 --> 01:24:08,400 and far into depression, 1713 01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:12,467 in such incredible pain, there's nothing we can do. 1714 01:24:13,967 --> 01:24:15,867 Nothing. 1715 01:24:19,033 --> 01:24:20,200 BEATRICE: It's survival-- 1716 01:24:20,266 --> 01:24:24,200 Is really very difficult. 1717 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,133 But, anyway, you do the best you can. 1718 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,367 Why else does he put us there? 1719 01:24:31,433 --> 01:24:33,533 You know that. There isn't any-- 1720 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,266 There isn't any choice. 1721 01:24:36,333 --> 01:24:40,834 If you found one, believe me, deary, pass it along. 1722 01:24:40,900 --> 01:24:45,300 'Cause there is no choice. 1723 01:24:45,367 --> 01:24:48,200 There isn't a choice to cope. 1724 01:24:48,266 --> 01:24:49,934 There isn't. 1725 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,233 I have a family. I have people I love and people who love me, 1726 01:24:53,300 --> 01:24:56,500 and, uh, you really have no choice 1727 01:24:56,567 --> 01:24:58,734 but to get up and put one foot in front of the other. 1728 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,667 And, um, basically, 1729 01:25:02,734 --> 01:25:04,700 I think the thing that I think about most is, uh, 1730 01:25:04,767 --> 01:25:06,900 is I just can't believe it. 1731 01:25:06,967 --> 01:25:09,100 I can't believe this. I can't believe it. 1732 01:25:09,166 --> 01:25:10,700 I can't believe I'm sitting here. 1733 01:25:10,767 --> 01:25:14,800 I can't believe... 1734 01:25:14,867 --> 01:25:18,400 that, um... 1735 01:25:18,467 --> 01:25:22,266 that I gave birth to this boy and raised him... 1736 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,233 and buried him. I can't believe it. 1737 01:25:25,300 --> 01:25:26,800 It's just a sense of disbelief. 1738 01:25:26,867 --> 01:25:29,367 I don't know if I'll ever really understand that it's true. 1739 01:25:29,433 --> 01:25:30,533 That this really happened. 1740 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,133 I can't believe it really happened. 1741 01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:33,400 Tell me it's a dream. 1742 01:25:33,467 --> 01:25:35,367 I can't believe it. I can't. 1743 01:25:35,433 --> 01:25:39,266 And I can't believe that the days continue to go by, 1744 01:25:39,333 --> 01:25:40,967 and the-- 1745 01:25:42,467 --> 01:25:46,533 And that the world continues to rotate 1746 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,166 without him. 1747 01:25:48,233 --> 01:25:50,333 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 1748 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,633 Oh, nice. Here, look at that. 1749 01:25:54,700 --> 01:25:57,500 [SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY] 1750 01:26:02,967 --> 01:26:05,300 Into the ground again. 1751 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,266 I hope this tree grows strong and proud, 1752 01:26:12,333 --> 01:26:15,667 and beautiful, to remind us of Evan. 1753 01:26:15,734 --> 01:26:18,967 And always provide beauty and shade 1754 01:26:19,033 --> 01:26:21,133 for future generations. 1755 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,200 DANA: And that every time we see it, 1756 01:26:23,266 --> 01:26:25,633 we'll always think of how much we loved him, 1757 01:26:25,700 --> 01:26:28,233 and how we'll always remember him. 1758 01:26:34,300 --> 01:26:39,166 That's the part that is gonna, I guess, change, 1759 01:26:39,233 --> 01:26:41,200 which is that as time passes 1760 01:26:41,266 --> 01:26:43,033 I'll begin to believe that it's true, 1761 01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:46,934 and that, basically, what I have left of him 1762 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,800 is those-- The 15 years that we had, 1763 01:26:50,867 --> 01:26:53,533 and, uh... 1764 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,800 that there was beauty in that. 1765 01:26:56,867 --> 01:26:59,333 And joy, and, uh, 1766 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,934 that maybe there's a lesson, or maybe we can learn something, 1767 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,033 or-- Or communicate something, but, um, 1768 01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:07,800 you know, in terms of coping it's just, 1769 01:27:07,867 --> 01:27:11,000 you know, it's our choice. 1770 01:27:11,066 --> 01:27:13,233 I don't have a choice. 1771 01:27:14,433 --> 01:27:16,266 There is none. 1772 01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,000 [♪♪] 1773 01:27:25,500 --> 01:27:26,967 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 1774 01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:15,000 DANA: Even though we lost this battle, 1775 01:28:15,066 --> 01:28:16,834 we'll never forget the experience we had 1776 01:28:16,900 --> 01:28:18,533 at Wellspring. 1777 01:28:20,567 --> 01:28:22,166 [MAN GRUNTING] 1778 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,467 HART: I volunteered to make beams 1779 01:28:27,533 --> 01:28:29,900 for the barn at Wellspring. 1780 01:28:32,667 --> 01:28:34,900 By the farm and sawmill. 1781 01:28:34,967 --> 01:28:39,700 And it was a way of giving something back to Wellspring, 1782 01:28:39,767 --> 01:28:42,066 that had given us so much. 1783 01:28:47,734 --> 01:28:49,433 [SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY] 1784 01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:51,767 DANA: And that's gonna be a building where other kids 1785 01:28:51,834 --> 01:28:56,333 are gonna be able to get the kind of therapy that Evan got. 1786 01:28:59,767 --> 01:29:03,433 These beams here, these are ours. 1787 01:29:03,500 --> 01:29:05,800 All the side beams, 1788 01:29:05,867 --> 01:29:09,500 and look at that inscription over there. 1789 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,967 DANA: Here was an opportunity to make something physical 1790 01:29:25,033 --> 01:29:26,367 in memory of Evan. 1791 01:29:30,166 --> 01:29:32,467 People can say, "Well, who's Evan?" It doesn't matter. 1792 01:29:32,533 --> 01:29:37,467 What matters is, is that, you know, 1793 01:29:37,533 --> 01:29:42,367 somebody loved Evan enough to... 1794 01:29:42,433 --> 01:29:45,867 want to remember his name. 1795 01:29:45,934 --> 01:29:47,934 [♪♪] 1796 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,100 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 1797 01:30:02,233 --> 01:30:04,867 [MAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY IN THE DISTANCE] 1798 01:30:08,834 --> 01:30:12,533 MAN: So we come thanking God for what he has blessed, 1799 01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,800 for the sacredness of this land, 1800 01:30:14,867 --> 01:30:16,767 asking that God will continue to watch over 1801 01:30:16,834 --> 01:30:20,166 everyone who works here and all those who've been part of it. 1802 01:30:20,233 --> 01:30:22,333 [APPLAUSE] 1803 01:30:25,500 --> 01:30:27,600 [CHATTER] 1804 01:30:41,633 --> 01:30:43,800 [♪♪] 125072

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