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So, I'd really like to focus on how you made the transition

from print to digital media with Eve Life.

Mmm.

No women available to cover the rise

of Australia's first independent women's media site?

Oh, I'm sure there were but... Oh, I was just joking!

(CHUCKLES SOFTLY)

So, I'm going to follow you around for a few days

just to get a sense of who you are and what you do.

Like my own personal stalker.

Like a reporter.

Yep.

(PROGRAM THEME MUSIC)

I'm joined by Evelyn Jones again,

offering a woman's take on the news.

Let's get into it.

A viral article titled

The Relentless Shaming of Stay-at-Home Mothers

has been doing the rounds this morning.

Now, any thoughts on this?

(LAUGHS) Well, I haven't read that one yet.

Been too busy working.

(LAUGHS)

I think we're just getting more honest now...

I think we're just getting more honest now...

..about the reality.

I love my kids, but mothering can be really, really boring.

You're losing brain cells in real time.

I mean, Giles, have you tried to play Scrabble

with someone that doesn't spell?

It's not that fun.

I have not.

But apologies to our wonderful audience

of stay-at-home mums watching.

Who I have enormous respect for.

Moving on.

A Norwegian political party

has proposed the banning of male circumcision

under the age of 18.

Any thoughts on this, being an outspoken feminist?

Oh, well, circumcision's really a choice

that parents make together.

It's not really a feminist issue.

But it's nothing to be ashamed of.

No. You have a son.

What choice did you and your partner make together?

Ohhhh...

Ahhhh! (LAUGHS UNCOMFORTABLY)

No shame!

(LAUGHS UNCOMFORTABLY) It's, um...

Well, we... we... we circumcised.

Uh-huh. Yep, for many reasons, like...

The father is. That seems to be the most common reason out there.

The father is. That seems to be the most common reason out there.

It was for health reasons, actually.

His father was circumcised as an adult because of an infection.

The good news is the click-through

on the Burnout Bras banner and the content for Sweats is high.

Metrics are excellent.

And the bad news?

There's been a fair bit of backlash

and they're getting nervous.

It's not just comments and tweets,

but also via our feedback form.

There's one that says,

"There's a sweet irony

"in using second-wave feminism to sell bras.

"What the F-word is wrong with you?!"

Here's another that says, "Don't you F-words

"know why women burnt their bras in the first place?"

Get to the point, Paul.

That's the general gist.

There's hundreds of them like that.

That's good engagement.

Why are we soliciting negative feedback anyway?

Should we consider losing the feedback column? Evelyn, no.

Uh... Having a formalised place to voice complaints

is crucial to journalistic integrity.

Yeah, no, I was just joking. (LAUGHS AWKWARDLY)

Just tell the client that all publicity is good publicity.

(PHONE RINGS) That's them.

(PHONE RINGS) That's them.

Hi, Rachel!

Yeah, no, everyone is talking about it.

Yeah.

Paul is becoming more and more attractive to me.

It's very odd.

I heard he auditioned for Australian Idol

and didn't make it through the first round.

He can sing? That's even more endearing.

No, he can't sing. That's why he didn't get through.

Huh. Evelyn, we'd better get going.

Oh, we've got the photo shoot.

Oh, sorry, just one sec.

I just want to have a quick word.

No apples, no snakes, no Bibles.

Remember, Eve is a biblical goldmine,

and if you're not careful,

you'll be in the Garden of Eden with your tits out

and that won't be good for anyone.

Props were invented to make women look like idiots.

(ENERGETIC PUNK MUSIC)

MAN: OK, darling, good.

Love it!

Oh, yes.

Show me the truth.

Don't lie to me, Evelyn.

OK, take a break, darling.

While we wait, let's talk magazines.

So, what exactly led to the fallout at Fontaine?

So, what exactly led to the fallout at Fontaine?

Oh, I'd really like to focus on Eve

and what I'm doing as an editor now

rather than dwelling on the past.

When I say fallout,

I'm referring to multiple reports that you were fired.

With Eve, we're creating a space that's candid and honest.

Women are craving authenticity,

not this glossy magazine bullshit.

Right, let's glue down these lashes.

OK, sure.

Actually, are they going to come off?

Eventually. We're back on, beauties.

Excuse me for a second.

Yes. Yes!

Evelyn, phone away.

CHRISTINE: Holy shit.

I cannot believe how much they've photoshopped this.

OPAL: They've totally redone her hairline.

EVELYN: And lifted her eyelids!

And where's her clavicle?

PENNY: She looks fab.

We have to publish these, don't we?

It just sends the message that women aren't allowed to age.

Yes, because one should never make themselves over

for a magazine shoot, should they?

Well, Opal, they can if they want,

but this is a great Eve story.

but this is a great Eve story.

This is what we've been waiting for.

Yeah, but of course magazines airbrush women

so they can sell them $300 worth of beauty products.

Yeah, I agree. We've just got to get the tone right.

We are for all women. Exactly.

That's why we need to see how this floats

with the average woman.

Penny.

I think this is messed up. Agree.

She's got hips in the originals and short legs.

Pen, what do you think?

Well, I mean, yeah, the photos are heavily photoshopped,

but like...

What?

Well, I wax my upper lip.

I pluck my chin hairs.

I wouldn't want to see it on the cover of a magazine.

I think photoshop is magical.

Let the woman live.

It's not just about one woman, though, is it?

Penny? It's about all women.

How are we supposed to live up to this?

Yeah. You know?

Who looks like this?

No-one.

I've gotta go. I've got leaky titties.

But, personally, I don't look to magazine covers for realism.

That's what public pools are for.

Forget her. We have to run these.

Forget her. We have to run these.

Opal, Jeet, Paul. Sure.

Definitely. Yeah.

Let's get a comment from Gwen and the mag first.

Make sure we give them right of reply.

Oh, I'll take care of that.

I mean, you'll just be presenting the facts,

asking the audience to make up their own minds, right?

Oh, yes. Yeah.

I mean, it's just such a great story.

And as an all-female staff,

it's really important we're on the same page.

Speaking of great stories,

tomorrow morning Opal's interviewing Layla McDermott,

the American stand up comedian, actress, director.

Yeah, wow, I love her.

Yeah, we're live streaming it on the site.

It'll be a massive traffic driver.

We'll all be watching,

as we're a super close, supportive team.

(INHALES, EXHALES DEEPLY)

Any other updates, Jeety?

Um... There's some mail here for you.

Oh, this? Yeah.

What is it?

It's a statement on circumcision, actually.

Who wrote about circumcision?

You spoke about it on national TV.

Oh, they really want to kill me.

Oh, they really want to kill me.

Super-impressed when someone bothers to go to the post office.

Our audience is so engaged.

Is that real blood?

PAUL: I wouldn't think so.

We don't usually get death threats.

So, what's up?

I was at a shoot today

and I received an anonymous email from someone at Fontaine.

(PHONE BUZZES)

And are you going to tell me what was in the email?

I think it's more important

that you know someone's trying to bring you down.

The information's sensitive.

There's a story in it.

So, what's this story?

I'm only here to give you a heads up, Peter.

Hmm.

Ev...

..you're not going to knife your former employer, are you?

Because that would look petty and overly...

Emotional?

I was going to say vengeful.

(PHONE BUZZES)

I'm sorry, I gotta go.

Sophie's organised this champagne and caviar

readers event.

readers event.

(LAUGHS)

Look...

Remember what happened last time

you let emotion cloud your judgement?

You'll do the right thing.

You got this one? Sure.

We're posting.

Are we getting a comment?

I think they've provided their commentary, haven't they?

So long as this isn't personal.

Is it? Maybe.

But it's the right thing to do.

(LINE BEEPS)

(SIGHS)

OK, we're going live.

LEILA: Cool earrings.

OPAL: Oh, do you want them?

No. (LAUGHS)

No, I don't... I don't want them, I was being polite.

Oh, thank you.

Yep. That's sweet.

Are we good?

Cool.

So, Miss Leila, please tell me,

where do you get your body confidence from?

JEET: Oh, my.

(LAUGHS)

Would you ask a Victoria's Secret model that question?

Would you ask a Victoria's Secret model that question?

Well, I mean, no, because you're, you know...

CHRISTINE: What is she doing?

..you're... you're... different.

You're... you're... you're...

You're so... you're so beautiful.

You're not afraid to show your body on social media

or on camera.

And you really seem to own your curves,

which is subversive and inspiring to other women

who don't fit the mould of what's considered beautiful.

Oh, she's just a bit nervous.

She's actually an excellent celeb interviewer.

I mean, your don't-give-a-fuck attitude?

Super cool.

And my six-year battle with bulimia?

Is that super cool?

Oh, wow, no.

I've struggled with bulimia myself,

and I'm also gluten intolerant...

Oh, God. ..which is really hard.

Can we just talk about the movie?

Yes. OK.

We can talk about the movie. Talk about the movie.

What's it like being a female director?

I mean, women in Hollywood don't often get chances,

so do you feel pressure to adhere to...

Honestly, I just see myself as a director.

I say this with the utmost respect.

She is shitting the bed.

I'm clenching. Anyone else?

Let's just cut the livestream.

Let's just cut the livestream.

No, we can't.

Can we?

And I think gender marking is really unhelpful

and it feels reductive.

I'm a director.

Totally. I mean, I'm just a writer.

I can't watch.

I like to write for women, but I'm just a writer.

PENNY: Still clenching. CHRISTINE: Ugh.

Are you expecting any backlash?

Definitely.

Interviewing's a fine art.

(LAUGHS UNCOMFORTABLY) Sure is.

(OPAL CONTINUES TALKING INDISTINCTLY)

LEILA: Yeah, look, I'm quite busy...

She's still going.

What's that?

A plant.

For your office.

What's that?

You don't want to drown it with too much water.

Got it.

Uh, where's Jamie?

Just gone to get some lunch.

Can you have a read?

Can you have a read?

That headline?

This will go nuts.

OPAL: Did I look like an idiot? Seriously?

OK, I'm going to go soothe Opal.

Mmm.

JEET: Opal, step away from the window.

Come on, Opal.

(BEEP)

(DOOR OPENS)

(FOOTSTEPS)

How'd you go at school today?

Come on, Al, talk to me.

That interviewer trapped me.

On purpose.

On purpose.

I mean, he practically forced me into...

To tell Australia I'm circumcised, Mum?

The whole of Year 11 were watching for media studies.

I'm sorry.

I am. I...

You know, I'm not making excuses but TV's really hard.

I try and be honest and sometimes I put my foot in it.

(LAUGHS DERISIVELY) Yeah, no shit.

Even Addy knows about it

and she knows nothing about anything.

Do you think that's why she's not staying over?

I don't know, Mum.

Whatever's going on between you two

has nothing to do with me, OK?

(KNOCK AT DOOR)

Hey. Hi.

I've apologised to Alex.

How is your phimosis?

It's good to raise awareness for it, don't you think?

It's good to raise awareness for it, don't you think?

Yeah, no, it's a great thing.

Yeah, I'm thrilled to be their poster boy.

You'd better call Addy too. Hm.

Well, I really enjoy playing Scrabble with Addy

now that her vocabulary is beyond 'wee' and 'poo'.

So you'll come to our games night tomorrow, then?

Yep. Any new rules I should know about?

Uh, no bodily functions and no slang.

What about 'queef' for 17?

What the hell's a queef? It's a fanny...

No, Evelyn.

Come on.

Bye, Mum.

Bye, honey.

(SIGHS)

(PHONE RINGS)

What's happened?

Gwen Lewis's Facebook page now.

(READS) "Evelife chose to publish

"unphotoshopped images of my Fontaine cover.

"They wrongly called out my supposed outrage

"at the long list of tweaks and embellishments.

"Perhaps you shouldn't let facts get in the way of a good story.

"But I am not outraged.

"Why?

"Because I'm an older woman

"trying to live and work in an ageist society.

"Jones, who positions herself as a feminist icon..."

No, I don't!

"..is making money off my tired, wrinkled face

"while I potentially lose income

"and has just made things a whole lot harder for me,

"a woman."

We should have requested a comment.

Well, you should have said that.

That's exactly what I said.

Ev, this has blown up.

It's everywhere.

Alright, well, you don't have to be all... Right?

Again?

We've got a hell of a fire on our hands now, Ev,

and it would be wonderful, just once,

not to wake up with a time bomb ticking on my bedside table.

I'm in the office already...

(VOICE FADES OUT)

(VOICE FADES OUT)

I've got a plan for the Gwen problem.

Let's just leave it till it dies down.

It's not going to go away in a hurry.

Our competitor's having a field day.

She's hosting an event tonight at Lorikeet House.

The women's shelter charity?

What if I went?

I'll talk to her.

I'll explain where I was coming from.

I'll ask her to take down her post.

And I'll just, um, see if she wants to do an interview.

Yeah, and then you just skip off into the sunset together.

And it's not gonna happen.

Just apologise and be done with it.

We're both upset about ageism in the media.

We're just expressing it in a different way.

Yeah, but explaining yourself never, ever works.

Yeah, but explaining yourself never, ever works.

Look, go to the event.

Support her cause.

Apologise.

Get a nice photo with her.

Just less is more.

In your case, less than less is more.

And I'll get a ticket for Jamie too,

so he can see how charitable you are.

Love it!

JAMIE: There are a few people still commenting

on circumcision,

and the response to the Gwen piece

does seem to be overwhelmingly negative.

Most people who have commented

think it's a woman's right

to choose how her image is edited.

See, this is what women do.

Women can be arseholes.

We end up bickering among ourselves

while our competitors, run by men, get on with it.

There's a special brand of hatred reserved for a woman

that...

..labels herself as a feminist and fails to be a fucking saint.

..labels herself as a feminist and fails to be a fucking saint.

(SIGHS) That was off the record.

And my son reads it all.

And the words, they just... they stick to you.

They just pile on and pile on until you're suffocated.

You can't breathe.

Someone calls you a hypocrite or a bad mother or a traitor

and you think the whole world agrees.

Anyway...

Ah!

Lovely empty field full of hope and promise.

Where is she?

Maybe we're early.

(LINE RINGS)

JON: Hey, what's up?

Hi, I'm just at hockey. What?

Why?

I'm here to pick up Addy. Where is she?

I'm here to pick up Addy. Where is she?

She's at home.

Evelyn, hockey finished weeks ago.

You were at the last game. Jeez, you're...

Oh, you're just on speaker with Jamie from the Tele.

OK.

Hi. Hello.

Hi. (LAUGHS AWKWARDLY)

I'll speak to you later.

OK, bye-bye.

Oh.

Well, I'm really pulling back the curtains

on my personal chaos.

Hmm.

I haven't even told them about tonight.

You could always cancel.

SONG: ? What goes up must come down... ?

At least the food's always decent at these things.

Oh, no, we'll be in and out of here in an hour.

Mingle, apologise.

Scrabble by 8:00.

Win. Bed by 10:00.

Sounds like a plan.

PHOTOGRAPHER: Gwen, just over here.

Oh. There she is.

? Talkin' 'bout your troubles and you never learn

? Talkin' 'bout your troubles and you never learn

? Ride a painted pony, pony, pony, pony, pony... ?

(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK FURIOUSLY)

(CASUAL CHATTER AND LAUGHTER)

(ELEGANT MUSIC PLAYS)

Gwen, hi.

It's Evelyn Jones.

Yeah, I... I know who you are.

(LAUGHS AWKWARDLY)

It's so nice to see you in person.

Is it?

Well, here I am. Smack bang in front of you.

I just wanted to explain

what happened with the story this week.

I said everything I needed to say in my Facebook statement.

Not that I need to explain myself

Not that I need to explain myself

or the way a fashion shoot goes.

I think you've been to enough. Oh, yeah.

Well, it was just a miscommunication.

And... and had I known

that you were on board with the photoshopping,

I just... I wouldn't have...

Thrown me under the bus?

Mm.

As if things for women our age aren't hard enough.

Look, I'd love to be allowed to just be.

But, unfortunately, that's a fantasy.

Unlike my mortgage, which is very real.

I understand.

I was making an individual choice, for me.

Well, I was just trying to articulate

that perhaps there's no such thing as an individual choice.

What do you mean?

Well, that's the patriarchal bargain, isn't it?

Working to maintain limited beauty standards

that have been determined by men.

Who make individual choices all the time.

They do. Moustaches.

I am on your side.

We're fighting the same battle.

Standards are there to wear women down.

Standards are there to wear women down.

We can't win.

Because that is the point.

Evelyn, you look amazing.

Hm. Thank you, Sophie.

Evening, folks. And how are we all feeling?

Have we all drunk enough? WOMAN: Whoo!

(LAUGHS) I think she has.

(LAUGHTER)

Alright, let's raise some money for vulnerable women.

Alright, first item is a hockey stick

signed by the Australian women's team.

My daughter plays hockey.

Well, off you go, then. Alright...

It's for a good cause.

It's a rare opportunity to own a piece of national history.

Oh, thank you, Evelyn Jones.

We'll start the bidding at 3,000.

3,000?! Wow.

3,500.

And a half.

4,000. For my daughter.

Ah, that's lovely.

4,200. Ooh.

Come on, you can afford it.

I've seen how big her severance package was.

Kidding. Kidding.

Evelyn?

4,500. Thank you.

5,000. Last offer.

Evelyn?

Evelyn?

Think of the women.

5,500. For the women.

Thank you, Sophie.

Amazing. Thank you. True ally.

5,600.

Going once, twice, three times.

What about the women?

Sold to Evelyn Jones!

What a great result for the women.

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

Great result. Well done, Evelyn.

(CHUCKLES AWKWARDLY)

My pleasure.

(ON PHONE MESSAGE) Addy, sorry I missed Scrabble,

but I had to fix something.

It was important.

It was about women and beauty standards.

You know how I feel about that stuff.

But I won.

I think.

Did you win?

I hope so.

Oh, and I bought you a hockey stick.

It's been an expensive night.

It's been an expensive night.

CHRISTINE: You're going to get hammered again in this profile piece

if you don't retract posting those touched up pictures.

We can't.

Me trying to kill it will become the story.

Well, you just... You need to get better.

Better at what?

You can't keep making silly mistakes.

I'm sure you're across what people are saying.

(LAUGHS)

Yeah, thank you.

I'm also across the numbers.

We surpassed all traffic targets this week.

And the Gwen story went viral. Mm.

And the last time I checked the website,

it was my photo on the homepage, not yours.

OK.

Jesus!

Oh, shit. (WHIMPERS)

Shit, I'm so, so sorry.

Shit, I'm so, so sorry.

I didn't expect you to be here on a Saturday morning.

Big same to you.

I... I couldn't sleep.

I just... I decided I didn't want to read this profile

in my depressing apartment.

Why are you...

I was up late doing TV recaps

and, um...

..well, my boyfriend and I broke up,

so I didn't really want to go back there last night.

Mm, no.

I just had to get away and clear my head.

I know how you feel.

Should we have a look at this profile?

Oh, yeah, please.

Oh, of course they have.

Oh, they left my labial folds in.

Which is good. That's good.

You look amazing.

(HALF-LAUGHS)

I can't read it.

"Misunderstood Evelyn Jones."

Just get to the Gwen debacle.

Just get to the Gwen debacle.

OK.

"Evelyn Jones's intention was clear.

"This was never about a celebrity

"who did or did not choose to be airbrushed.

"To her, this was about the everyday woman

"who would consume that image

"and compare herself to a face, a person who does not exist.

"The article was a critique of an antiquated commercial model

"that profits off women hating themselves."

He gets it.

Yeah, he gets it. (LAUGHS)

Oh! (BOTH LAUGH)

Just here.

Oh, thank God!

You know you can't sleep here.

Yeah, no, I was just thinking like a night or two

till I sort my shit out.

I have a spare room.

Brand-new mattress.

No-one's used it.

Are you sure?

Are you sure?

Mm.

I'm so hungry.

Let's go and get some breakfast. OK.

The apartment's actually quite nice.

Heaps of natural light.

I want eggs and bacon.

I'm a vegetarian.

(DOOR CLOSES)

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