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[girls laughing]

[suspenseful music playing]

[girl screams]

[Mike] We don't consider him a suspect in the case anymore.

We saw leads and tips drop off dramatically

after Michael Klunder, because everybody, like us,

assumed that it was Klunder.

And so we wanted to pick up the tips

and tell people Michael Klunder right now is off the table,

and we're going to continue doing our investigation.

[Heather] We don't have any answers of who killed Elizabeth and Lyric,

but that person is still out there.

Or persons.

It's unsettling, to say the least.

And Evansdale, you know, it could be your neighbor.

You just don't know.

No parent should have to go through this.

Like I wouldn't want my worst enemy to go through this.

I never want this person to be able to do this to another family.

And I want justice for my girls.

For the past two years, Eastern Iowans have been waiting for answers

about who kidnapped and killed two Evansdale cousins.

After we buried Lyric and Elizabeth, I haven't heard

from one authoritative figure at all.

No one. No updates, no phone calls, no information.

There's a lot of resources involved

for weeks and weeks and weeks on the front end of this case,

and there were some people that worked it you know, pretty much nonstop

for the first couple of years, but it's hard to maintain that.

You know, at some point it does start to slow down.

The FBI came in and they issued a profile of the killer.

You know, one, that they were local.

They had to be familiar with Meyers Lake

and Seven Bridges Wildlife Area in Bremer County.

The FBI said the killer may be part of the Evansdale,

or surrounding area.

Probably had changed their appearance recently.

And that the killer may have attempted to abduct children,

or adults in the past.

[Kent] It would be very, very unusual

if this was the first time they'd acted out.

Maybe not to this degree.

But they probably had inappropriate contact,

surely, fantasies,

with other...

juvenile, prepubescent girls.

[Lihn] I was doing breaking news reporting at the Des Moines Register,

and during the evening shifts, I would notice, you know, every few weeks that summer,

there had been news releases

coming from law enforcement agencies around Iowa.

We'd get a news release from one county that said,

"We got a report that a man tried to kidnap a girl.

"She didn't go into the car."

But two weeks later, we get another press release.

And you're like, "Okay, this summer is there just

a bunch of different people trying to abduct kids in Iowa?

[Drew]I remember that I was at a police department

and they had a map of the state, and they had these tacks,

where each one of his things happened.

[Lihn] A man approached two 11-year-old girls

who were walking together in Colfax, Iowa,

and he offered both of them $100 bills.

One of the girls did get into the car with him and sat in the passenger seat.

He molested her and touched her over her clothes.

And he had made her touch him as well.

And she asked him to get out of the car and he dropped her off at the library.

The ages ranged.

It could be as young as six to as old

as 13 in Onawa, 220 miles west of Evansdale.

One six-year-old girl who was just walking back home after school.

A silver Ford Focus pulls up to her

and a man offers her a $100 bill to get into his car.

She immediately rejects the money, runs off, goes home,

and she tells her mom about the situation.

I was over at a neighbor's house and her daughter come running in.

She was pale white, saying some man tried to abduct her.

She said he had a blue shirt, silver car.

I was just in such disbelief.

I raced out the door,

I get in the car, I see the silver car

at the end of the block.

When I pull next to him, I go, "Hey, you picking up kids?"

And that's when he sped off.

I follow him and I caught up to him, and that's when I decided

like, "Hey, we got to call the police now,"

you know. They were just, like, you know, "Stay on him,

"don't lose him," you know, I said, "I'm going at a high rate of speed,

"upwards of 95 miles an hour."

They're like, "Just stay on him, do not lose him."

Finally, the state troopers arrived and he pulled over.

No incident, no altercations, got arrested,

put him in the cop car and he looked like a normal guy.

[Lihn] The police arrested Jeff Altmayer.

He's a 58-year-old from Ankeny, Iowa.

When police searched Jeff Altmayer's vehicle they found Viagra,

Xanax, they found over a dozen $100 bills.

Looking at Jeff Altmayer, he really wouldn't be on anyone's radar at all.

I mean, he was quiet.

He lived in a suburb of Des Moines.

He didn't have any previous criminal convictions.

He had a wife and two adult children that he lived with.

He was a vehicle inspector for an insurance agent.

And his territory that he covered was the entire state of Iowa.

His job gave him a huge hunting ground

to just go into all these towns and just be completely anonymous.

There had been multiple different cases, and with the Evansdale case,

it was two little girls who were around the same age

of the girls that he would try to abduct.

You know, the closest case that law enforcement knew about

that he was a suspect in was in Cedar Falls, Iowa,

which is just a little over a dozen miles away from Evansdale.

It's very close.

[Scott]When Jeff Altmayer came up, it would be a logical step

to make a guy that's driving around and trying to entice kids, um,

he would be a name that you would want

to vet through a case like what we have with Evansdale.

[Dan]When I seen Jeff Altmayer's name in the paper

absolutely, I was thinking, somebody like that!

Are you guys watching him? You know, and I'm calling them,

you know, talking to DCI and stuff,

and, you know, ask some questions about this guy.

The only thing that didn't make sense was he's let these girls go.

He wasn't killing them.

These kind of people, they might start off molesting kids,

and then it kind of progresses.

And I don't think you go backwards after you kill a couple of kids.

I think you get more deviant.

He's gonna do it again if he hasn't already,

and he'll do it until he gets caught.

[dramatic music playing]

On February 13th 2017 in Delphi, Indiana,

another dual abduction occurred.

[Trelka] I'm a news junkie.

So when there is an abduction of a child in this country,

the first question I ask myself,

"Is this our guy?"

In the Delphi Indiana case,

I read the news article,

and said this could be the guy.

[Anna] Delphi is a really nice small town.

It's a quiet place to grow up.

You know, your kids know all the kids in their class.

Sports teams are still big on Friday night.

It's just a good place for families,

and nobody, really, you know, had a second thought about it.

Oh, that was right there in the yard. That was Mother's Day

in our matching outfits.

Our denim jackets.

This one, um, I took sitting across from her.

It was my cousin's bridal shower,

and when we had to find, like, a current picture of her

even though it's with the hat,

it's, like, this is it.

Abby was, like, the coolest, kindest kid ever.

She really cared about people,

wanted to help out with everything and everybody.

Loved sports.

Tried everything at least once.

Stuck with volleyball for three years,

Abigail had a lot of really good friends.

Libby being one of them.

Liberty had just turned 14 and Abby would have been 14 in June.

Her team photos.

There they are by each other.

There's Abby, and there's Libby.

In the short time that Libby was here, she had a passion for life,

she wanted to get as much out of it as she could.

She was an adventurer.

[Mike] Like we'd go to a theme park,

she'd want to ride every ride that was out there.

Until she got right up to the edge, you know?

And then it was like, "Uh-oh, we got to go."

On Monday, February 13th 2017,

the kids had had a long winter break weekend,

so they got Friday through Monday off.

Monday ended up being a gorgeous plus 50 degree day.

Abby and Libby had stayed over at Libby's house overnight.

[Becky] They came down 9:30, ten o'clock.

Libby's sister Kelsey came in

and Libby jumped up and said, "Can she take us to the trails?"

[Anna] They got dropped off a little after one o'clock that afternoon

for, you know, an hour long, picture taking and hike.

The Monon Trail's main feature would be the high bridge.

[train horn blares]

It's an old railroad bridge.

Um, it hasn't been in service for years.

Old, broken railroad ties.

But it is a beautiful spot.

Lots of folks go out for pictures there.

A lot of people enjoy it out there.

They started walking the trail.

Libby's dad, Derek, would be able to pick them up hour and a half,

two hours later, around three o'clock that day.

[cell phone ringing]

When Derek got out to the bridge,

he tried calling and texting

because the girls weren't at the immediate pick up spot.

[cell phone ringing]

And they didn't answer.

[Becky] Derek called me

and said, "Can you call her

and see if she answers for you?"

So I started calling and there was no answer.

[cell phone continues ringing]

She doesn't ever not answer her phone.

So I'm like, there's something not right.

So we decided,

you know what, we're going to go to the trails.

I'm gonna walk the trails and see if we can find her.

Mike come walking up and he had been searching,

and I said, "It's going to be dark soon.

We need to call the police."

[Anna] I received a phone call from Becky around 5:30 or six o'clock,

"Abby's missing,

and we're not sure where they are."

[female news reporter]Near the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi,

two Carroll County girls have disappeared.

Several law enforcement agencies are looking for them.

And the search will continue.

[Anna] We kind of made a Facebook post and said, "Hey, if you happen to see

either of these kids, you know, tell them that they're in big trouble.

We're looking for them. They weren't where they were supposed to be."

By that time, I think the local news crew

was starting to show up there because it was dark.

[female news reporter]We've seen volunteers who don't even know the family

and people walking onto this trail area

over the past hour or so. They are fighting the darkness now,

using flashlights as they continue that search.

Basically, Delphi was lit up with flashlights that night.

Well the search was called off around 10:30 or 11 o'clock that night, um...

Officially, they said, "It's getting dark, it's cold,

it's dangerous."

I remember coming home to change clothes

and grabbed her jacket because I knew she didn't have one

and she was gonna be cold when she got back to the car.

I remember just thinking, "Well, she's... they'll be back.

They're coming back."

I remember waking up earlier

that next morning,

on Valentine's Day 2017.

Uh...

It was the first thing that came on the news.

[female news reporter]The search continues as police try to find

two teenage girls who went missing early yesterday.

There are nearly 200 volunteers working

with police and fire officials and others trying to help.

I jumped in a canoe, with another volunteer fireman,

and we floated down all the way into the city of Delphi.

A friend of mine come running up to us

and said that they found them.

Her husband was in a group that found them.

As I ran up to one of the firemen

I said, "You need to take me to Libby, they found her.

She's gonna need us," you know.

As I sat there...

[sniffles]

The coroner...

The coroner's van

come driving by.

And that's when I realized they were found.

[tense music playing]

Oh, it was awful.

Everything just stood still.

By the time word had gotten out

that they had been found and they were no longer with us...

Then the rest of it just kind of... was a whirlwind.

It just didn't seem real.

Not to anybody.

[sniffles]

[Doug] Why Libby?

Why Abby?

Why Delphi?

Words tend to escape,

during these periods of time, because this is a classic example

and a clear example that evil lives amongst us.

[Anna]I first became aware of Evansdale not long after.

It was probably two or three days.

Similarities I thought were,

the girls being, kind of, similar age wise or,

you know, an old trail system.

The terrain looked similar.

It was like looking at our backyard.

It was like looking at where the girls were.

[Heather]Anytime anybody does things where

it's, you know, more than one, takes, you know, two kids,

that's where we go,

"Could that be a suspect in our case?"

[Drew]We kind of went into overdrive, like,

thinking that could be somebody traveling, doing it.

[Dylan] There were a lot of similarities between

the Evansdale and Delphi cases.

But there was one big difference.

And it's a case where they had video footage, audio recording.

[Jeff] There's some cell phone evidence

from one of the victims in this Indiana case

where they were able to take a picture

of a guy walking along the trail that they had apparently had encountered.

And there's, um, audio

where you kind of hear part of the guy's voice,

kind of saying something about down the hill.

[man indistinctly on recording]...down the hill.

...down the hill.

...down the hill.

That's the killer on her cell phone footage.

[Dylan speaking]

She felt uneasy.

I think she was uncomfortable enough

that she decided she wanted to video him.

But it's tough.

Everybody in Indiana dresses like that,

so I don't see anything specific.

[Doug]As poor as this picture is, somebody knows.

And if you're watching...

We'll find you.

He has to be lucky every day.

All we've got to do is be lucky one day.

But for right now, he better keep looking over his shoulder.

[female news reporter]Investigators hunting Libby and Abigail's killer

are comparing notes with authorities 400 miles away

in Evansdale, Iowa.

[John] As protocol with any investigation of this nature,

we compare to unsolved crimes

throughout the nation.

Part of that is the double homicide

that occurred in Iowa.

At this time, I can assure you

we have spoken with the investigators in Iowa,

and at this point

it does appear to be coincidental that the two cases are similar.

But based on the evidence, we are not able to connect the two cases at this time.

They think, same with ours, where they think it's somebody local.

On that case, they think it's a local Delphi person, too.

[Anna]It has been very frustrating over the last

five and a half years now to still have nothing

and still not be a whole lot farther,

we feel sometimes, than we were at day one

and it just hurts.

It makes you angry.

[Dylan] While the Delphi case was in the early stages of investigation,

back in Evansdale, the impact of having no answers was heavy.

And had had a profound effect on Heather and Drew's relationship.

Between Klunder, Altmayer and Delphi.

There was nothing concrete.

[cameraman] All right, I'm rolling.

So my first interview with Heather and Drew, they were together.

[Dylan speaking]

It's hard because... [clears throat]

It's just been... it's been up and down since,

since the girls have been gone.

A lot of ups and downs, but we're going...

staying together and going through it.

A lot of days, he's just kind of down.

We just deal with it different.

So I did two interviews with them,

and then I kind of took time off.

And when I reached out to Drew again in 2017,

he just said... Let me know that him and Heather had split

and that, uh, you know...

I had to film Heather and Drew separately.

-[Dylan] All right, Drew, how's it going? -Good.

Okay, so...

Mark, three rolling.

[Dylan] How is the family doing?

[Heather] Um...

A few things have changed.

Um, Drew and I got a divorce.

We were together for 25 years.

So to me, just kind of, I don't know,

that's all I knew, was him.

So that's been really emotionally mind numbing.

It's just... it's really hard.

Everything just went to shit.

Even if it's your wife, it's hard for her to understand

how you're going through it or how you're reacting

and for a dad, it's different than a mom.

My job, I thought, was try to keep our family afloat.

So I really didn't show much emotion.

Drew was a mess.

I didn't, like, hold back my emotions,

like, I don't care.

Like, if I lose my shit, I lose my shit.

[dog barking]

I started throwing shit, anything I could get my hands on.

I've done a lot of things in anger.

There was one time, I came home,

and everything in my yard got broke

in the middle of the night and I just lost my shit.

[Heather] I mean, completely understandable but I didn't want the kids to see

both of us distraught and not able to do anything,

even though I was like, going crazy inside.

[Drew] It was just too much for our marriage to work through.

One of the first stories that I wrote about the Evansdale case

was during the five-year anniversary of when they had been abducted.

Even though five years had passed,

the case was on everybody's minds in Evansdale.

I mean, there was still ribbons hanging up to rememberLyric and Elizabeth.

[Larry]Not just in abduction case, but in any case,

time on the front end is your enemy.

The person who committed the crime has more time to recover psychologically,

more time to get rid of physical evidence.

At some point, what you see sometimes is the reverse effect,

as time goes on, time may work to your advantage.

It's feasible that whoever did this told somebody some part of it

or relationships change over time, people break up.

If there's somebody that does know

something about a case, sometimes as time goes by,

they're more likely to come forward and say something.

Time can become your ally.

[Lihn] Belle Plaine, Iowa is a pretty small town.

It's about 2,400 people, and it's just 50 miles south of Evansdale.

So, in the early morning on May 4th, 2018,

Teresa Gerleman goes out and crosses the train track with her son, Henry Fields.

[suspenseful music playing]

[train crossing bell ringing]

A conductor who was in an oncoming train,

says that he remembers seeing her going onto the track

and then grabbing Henry's arm

and pulling him onto the track as well,

right before the train hits and kills both of them.

[Dylan] Teresa Gerleman committed murder suicide with her son, Henry.

Normally, you know,

I mean, that's just tragic in and of itself.

But within, I believe, the first 24 hours,

you know, there was rumblings about connection to the Evansdale case.

What they had learned was that she had been dealing with mental health issues.

She had been going to a local center for people with disabilities.

What Teresa had told some of the staff at the center

was that she was hanging out with these guys who said

that they had murdered Lyric and Elizabeth.

And they had given her a six-page letter,

kind of detailing how it happened.

[Drew]The DCI, they had went

to her house after that and searched her house,

and I know they left with, like, a box full of stuff.

But supposedly it was a letter written from somebody, two guys.

I don't know who wrote that letter.

They won't say who wrote that letter.

[Lihn] Most child predators are lone wolves,

so to have possibly multiple people involved is really odd.

[Larry] If you talked to ten investigators,

you could have ten different opinions

and ten different, you know, arguments,

of if it was one person, it was two people,

so I don't think you can take a position

that it had to be two, or could have only been one.

I mean, until you know what happened,

uh, you have to consider both possibilities.

[Trelka] In all likelihood, I venture to say one, but possibly two.

We can't rule that out.

I think every single scenario needs to be considered.

They didn't find anything that was new or revelatory in the letter.

So whatever it is, I don't know.

Is it something that's a smoking gun?

Or is it something that's... They know is nonsense.

I don't know. They won't tell me.

[soft music playing]

Today marks six years since hunters found the bodies

of two missing Black Hawk County cousins.

Volunteers are helping build a beautiful memorial

to remember Elizabeth and Lyric

and other young victims.

This came together with a ton of people helping.

Three...

One.

We're open.

[all cheering, clapping]

You know, I ask a lot of questions,

but I don't get a lot of answers when I talk to the police.

Eight years running, and it's still an unsolved Evansdale criminal case.

The DCI, they just... they keep everything very quiet,

and they're very good at keeping secrets.

But that doesn't mean they don't have something.

We don't know what they have.

They could have the card in their hand

and they're just waiting for the other cards to match up with it

and solve it. It could be solved Monday,

I don't-- Or tomorrow, who knows?

Exactly ten years ago today,

the first reports came in that Lyric and Elizabeth were missing.

And Drew reminds everyone you're invited

to attend the tenth annual ride and drive for the girls.

It's this Saturday morning at Lofty's in Evansdale.

[man] There's still a lot of anger in the community over this.

Somebody knows something

-Yeah. -and they're gonna come forward.

And, you know, I hope it does come out what happened, God willing.

[Drew] If anything, we're getting stronger

and we're not going anywhere.

We're gonna continue to get this case out there,

and until it's solved, we want to bring this monster to justice.

[intense music playing]

[Dylan]What do you want the public to know about what's happened

with the investigation, where it seems to be?

One, it's being actively investigated and two, we're not going anywhere.

It's not sitting on a shelf somewhere gathering dust.

We regularly carve out time to investigate this one with our team.

We've had 117 tips in the last ten months.

[Dylan speaking]

With Klunder specifically,

I can't... I can't comment on a decision that wasn't mine to make.

And I'm certainly not gonna go...

It was... I'm not going to say it was a right or wrong decision.

I might have landed at a different place.

[Dylan]There's been three double abductions in Iowa.

The first one was in 1991, which is Michael Klunder.

He goes to prison for 20 years.

He gets out and then there's two double abductions within two years.

And as soon as he dies, there's no more double abductions in Iowa.

They came back and said they had no evidence that Klunder was ever here.

But to me, that doesn't mean he didn't do it.

To me, he's the most likely suspect.

[Dan]If he did come through town

and it was him that seen them ride their bikes?

Absolutely, I think that he would track them to a place where it was secluded.

[Trelka]My instincts are telling me

that Michael Klunder could still be good for this.

I'm uneasy with ruling him out.

There's too many coincidences between Michael Klunder

and the abduction he committed in Dayton compared to Evansdale.

The police have never given us the piece of evidence

that says Michael Klunder didn't do this.

But you know, the way they ruled him out,

they said, "We believe he was at home,

or at work."

Michael Klunder worked for a hog confinement company so he would travel

you know, in between hog confinements, possibly one county,

into another county into another county.

So if you're saying, you know, we believe he was at home or at work.

I mean, what you're really saying to me is that you don't know where he was.

[Trelka] I would love to hear from DCI

how they ruled Michael Klunder out as a suspect.

I think they had some cell phone tracking data or something.

[Larry] You'd like to say, "Well, this person's cell phone never hit the towers

near anyplace close to where it happened, so therefore they're not there.

Well, that's not necessarily true.

I could have left my cell phone 100 miles from here.

If somebody was going to go commit a crime,

they may intentionally do that for that purpose,

you know, so their phone shows that they're someplace else.

One of the big problems with Klunder was that

they couldn't ever concretely put him in Evansdale

the day the girls went missing,

and that was kind of the reason why they eliminated him

as a suspect, at least publicly.

After digging around

I found out that Michael Klunder had served time

with two convicted felons named Troy Conkling, and Chris Ricketts.

Chris Ricketts was convicted of multiple controlled substance violations

and possession of a controlled substance.

Troy Conkling was convicted of sexual abuse in the third degree

on an adult woman and burglary in the first degree.

Both men were living in Evansdale at the time of the abductions in 2012,

after all three men had been released.

[Ricketts speaking]

[Sires speaking]

[Ricketts speaking]

[Sires speaking]

[Ricketts speaking]

[Dylan]That's new information.

This raises a few questions, and I'm not really sure what to believe.

If Chris Ricketts is telling the truth,

he is saying that Troy Conkling and Michael Klunder,

were together at the time of the abduction of Elizabeth

and Lyric in Evansdale, but who knows?

Drew wanted to hear Troy Conkling's side of the story.

So he called Conkling's wife.

Hey, what's up, Bobbi? Is Troy doing anything?

Is there any way he would talk to me tonight?

Yeah.

Well, I mean, you guys got kids.

You can understand where I'm coming from.

I'm just... I'm just trying to... I've been waiting and waiting,

and I'm just done waiting.

I just wanna... kind of...

Yeah, absolutely.

It would be fine to just do a phone call

if you would just call me and I could talk to him?

-Okay. Bye bye. Thanks.-Bye bye.

I can hide my phone in my shirt, too, or no?

-[Dylan] Yeah. -'Cause that's pretty obvious, a camera.

Look at that.

Isn't that fucking stupid?

A lot of people carry their phones like that, though.

Okay.

All right, so we're gonna just run through this.

Let's see. Like we got about six foot space here and, like, four foot here.

-This is as close as I think we'll get. -Mm-hmm.

If he's there, I'll kind of try to angle to this side a little bit.

Kind of put in your chest cavity right here.

[man] Yeah, that should be good.

[Dylan] Let's find another shirt.

[intense music playing]

One chance to do this.

That's what makes me nervous about this.

Like I don't want to scare him off.

I want to keep him talking.

So I don't want to, like, come out right away and say

anything that's gonna make him shut down.

I want to keep him going, but I think it's gonna be...

I think he's going to close down right away.

That's my guess.

So I'm gonna park right...

-[man] Um, here, here. -[Drew] Yeah.

[man speaking]

Straight ahead.

[Drew] I'm gonna go meet him.

[Dylan] You're recording on your phone, right, Drew?

-Yep. -Okay.

[man] Holy shit.

[Drew] Troy.

-What's up, man? -Hello.

-Who are you? Who are you? -Drew.

Drew Collins.

-I don't remember you. -You're Troy?

-Yeah, I'm Troy. -I'm Elizabeth's dad.

-Elizabeth? -Elizabeth Collins.

You talking about the girls in Evansdale?

-Yeah. -Oh, yeah. The cops think it's fucking, um...

Uh...

Colombian, no, not Colombian. Mexican cartel.

-You think? -That's what they told me.

Well, I think it's Klunder.

Michael Klunder's dead.

Well, I know, but I think he did it.

I think so, too.

I did five years with him.

He's a fucking weirdo.

[Drew] Um...

Did he ever come to Evansdale?

I have no clue on that. Uh...

-Do you know Chris Ricketts? -Yes, I know, Chris.

Okay, he said that Klunder

and you called him from town.

And then Klunder talked to him on the cell phone.

You guys are trying to hang out with Chris or something.

Like you guys called him and you're like, "Hey, Klunder is here."

No.

No. Hell no, because Klunder never... I was never around Klunder.

[Drew] Because he said Klunder was with you that day,

that he talked to Klunder with your phone.

I called Klunder from my mom's house,

when I lived in Evansdale. And then I seen Ricketts at Walmart.

But I never used...

I never let... Uh-uh.

Hell, no.

-He never talked to you about coming up here? -No.

Not to visit or anything?

-Fuck. -No.

Like I said, when the cops pulled me in, it was to ask me about it.

I was like, um, "Last time I talked to him was at my phone at my mom's house.

"If you want, you can pull the records."

"Well, that takes too long." I was like, "Yeah,

"but you're accusing me, so why don't you fucking do it?"

Because they had me in there three times.

[Drew] Oh, okay. Is there a reason you thought Klunder did it?

Klunder has priors for that.

[Drew] Yeah.

Dude, it's been ten years.

-I just want to find out who killed my kid. -Yeah.

And if it is Klunder, then I just want to be able to,

you know, put that to rest.

Do you think he did our girls or not?

Yes, that's... that's my own opinion.

But yes.

-[Drew] Yeah? -By himself?

-No. Like I said-- -Who would he come up here

-to do that with? -Trust me, there's a lot of weirdos out...

-And then you get into prison. -But you think he could have just

-come here with somebody else or? -I don't know.

-Uh... -Well, I appreciate you talking to me.

Yeah, no problem.

[Dylan] Now they're walking back.

I'm not feeling so good. [coughs]

So... [coughs] If you catch, like, a stomach flu or something, I apologize.

Oh, all right. Good talking to you, man.

[Dylan] All right...

Well, at least he talked to me.

But as far as he says, that phone call with Ricketts never happened.

[Dylan] The next question is, should we call Chris?

[Drew] I will.

[cell phone ringing]

He'll answer.

-Drew. -What's up?

What are you doing?

Nothing. I just went and I caught Troy out of his house

-and I went and recorded our conversation with him.-Oh.

What'd he say?

He said that him and Klunder did not call you.

No, no, no, no. I met them both.

-Where?-Right down the street from your house, pretty much.

Right in Evansdale.

-I can't remember exactly where-- -So he was there?

Yeah, I've seen him face to face.

The only time I've ever seen him out of prison, you know?

Klunder had just been out within the year or two or whatever.

So that's why I was kind of wondering why he was up there.

I know I seen them two together.

I don't know when, what time.

But I know it was, you know, in the neighborhood of your house.

That's the only time I had seen him.

-I know, I know.-I just remember seeing Klunder and shaking his hand.

The police have never talked to you?

No, why would they?

Well, that's pretty big, dude.

Oh, I know it is now, but in hindsight, why would they have talked to me before?

All right, man. Do you care if I use this audio?

Are you recording me?

-I always record you.-Why?

I'm wired like the FBI, man.

-All right. Later, bud. -Okay, bye.

[somber music playing]

-[Drew] Hello? -[Dylan] Drew, what's going on?

So, it's been a couple of days.

I mean, were you surprised?

I mean, I was surprised that Chris was never questioned by law enforcement.

[Drew sighs] Yep.

[Dylan] If what Chris Ricketts is saying... If his story

is 100% true,

that means he's shaking hands with Michael Klunder in Evansdale.

What would you think would have happened

if Michael Klunder was in Evansdale?

Then definitely Klunder did it.

I mean, Michael Klunder is a fricking animal, dude.

The fact that he's even saw the light of day is a crime.

[Dylan] Troy Conkling denied ever meeting Michael Klunder in Evansdale,

but Chris Ricketts said he shook Klunder's hands somewhere in Evansdale.

These two conflicting stories could provide a new lead.

For police to investigate.

If Michael Klunder was in the area around the time of Lyric

and Elizabeth's abduction, it could be a game changer.

It might even be the major break that could help close this case

and finally give these families some peace.

I don't think all of us have been together

since the... Probably Lyric's funeral.

So...

Ten years later.

Some people are a little apprehensive,

but we'll just see how it goes with everybody.

I'm not angry at anybody really anymore.

I love Heather.

I miss her.

She kind of, like, just kind of cut us off from the whole family.

Losing the girls really just blew us all apart.

You know, when your world is coming down around you and you're helpless

and you can't do anything about it, you do and say things

that you normally probably wouldn't.

Before Lyric and Elizabeth happened, it was, like, so important

to, like, be together for, like, family holidays

and for us kids to all spend time together

and know each other and be really close.

[all]♪ Ring around the roses ♪

And after it happened, everybody really like

took their own road to, like, trying to cope.

We've tried to mend our ways

and, you know, engage together, but it just doesn't seem to work.

All right, we're coming up on the cemetery right here.

It's just weird to come out here, for me.

You shouldn't be visiting your eight-year-old daughter here.

-[child speaking indistinctly] -Ooh, I love your outfits.

-[Drew] Hi, Mama. -[Tammy] Hi, Mama.

[Heather] Hi, Mama.

[Drew] I just wanted to get everybody together,

like, no matter what our differences are,

or what's happened, like,

the girls are way more important and bigger than all that.

It's been ten years, we need to come together.

[Tammy] Yeah.

Heavenly Father, thank you for bringing the group of people around us today

to hopefully solve something that's been going on for nearly ten years.

We miss Lizzie and Lyric, they suffer no more.

[girl sobbing]

Look, there's my daughter.

Isn't she pretty?

[Tammy] Hummingbird.

[woman] It's my first time here.

Do you know that?

-[Drew] Hey, guys, we're gonna walk down to Lizzie's. -[Heather] Okay.

[sighs]

Put them down in there, Mom, or do you want me to do it for you?

Hi, Mom.

[Heather]You think of what they'd be doing.

She would have been graduating.

Like what she would have picked for a prom dress.

I'm sure lots of glitter.

Would she have been in volleyball with all her other friends

and what kind of car she could have talked her dad into getting, you know?

Right, Drew? [chuckles softly, sniffles]

She had a wonderful smile.

Just lit up the room.

[Dan]I just don't understand it.

Understand why, I don't understand how, I don't understand anything.

We just gotta move on, you know?

And that's hard.

But at the same time, we just got to understand

that, you know, we're gonna see them again,

and that's why my faith and my belief, so just gotta come together, be stronger.

Just gonna let them be something that tears us apart?

Say, Daddy, I miss you.

Hi, Mommy!

I love you!

I love you, by the way.