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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,068 --> 00:00:04,170 September 1978. 2 00:00:06,606 --> 00:00:09,509 A Boeing 727 is headed for the ground. 3 00:00:09,576 --> 00:00:12,145 Easy, baby, easy. 4 00:00:12,212 --> 00:00:14,247 Mom, I love ya. 5 00:00:19,319 --> 00:00:20,587 San Diego becomes the site 6 00:00:20,653 --> 00:00:24,224 of the worst aviation disaster in U.S. History. 7 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:26,526 My hair stood up on the back of my head 8 00:00:26,593 --> 00:00:29,729 when I learned that this crash had occurred. 9 00:00:32,031 --> 00:00:33,032 Oh, my word. 10 00:00:33,099 --> 00:00:35,502 The accident scene was horrendous. 11 00:00:35,568 --> 00:00:37,170 How am I gonna put this puzzle together 12 00:00:37,237 --> 00:00:39,372 was a real big concern of mine. 13 00:00:39,439 --> 00:00:40,840 Evidence leads investigators 14 00:00:40,907 --> 00:00:42,609 to a remarkable conclusion. 15 00:00:42,675 --> 00:00:45,011 Oh, yeah. Before we turned downwind, I saw him... 16 00:00:45,078 --> 00:00:46,513 Hold on. 17 00:00:46,579 --> 00:00:49,048 A horrendous accident may have been caused... 18 00:00:49,115 --> 00:00:50,483 Oh, yeah. 19 00:00:50,550 --> 00:00:52,685 Before we turned downwind, I saw him about one o'clock. 20 00:00:52,752 --> 00:00:56,790 ...by a single misheard syllable. 21 00:00:57,624 --> 00:00:58,758 Ladies and gentlemen, 22 00:00:58,825 --> 00:01:00,260 we are starting our approach. 23 00:01:00,326 --> 00:01:01,528 We lost both engines! 24 00:01:01,594 --> 00:01:02,462 Put the mask over your nose. 25 00:01:02,529 --> 00:01:03,263 Emergency descent. 26 00:01:03,329 --> 00:01:04,531 Mayday, mayday. 27 00:01:04,597 --> 00:01:06,199 Brace for impact! 28 00:01:06,266 --> 00:01:07,167 I think I lost one. 29 00:01:07,233 --> 00:01:08,067 Investigation starting... 30 00:01:10,437 --> 00:01:11,137 He's gonna crash! 31 00:01:24,784 --> 00:01:28,455 Pacific southwest airlines flight 182 32 00:01:28,521 --> 00:01:33,493 is on an early morning run down the coast of California 33 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,196 from Sacramento to San Diego. 34 00:01:38,531 --> 00:01:40,967 First officer Bob Fox is at the controls. 35 00:01:41,034 --> 00:01:44,904 Approach, PSA 182, coming out of 9-5, 36 00:01:44,971 --> 00:01:46,539 descending to 7,000. 37 00:01:46,606 --> 00:01:50,009 Airport is in sight. 38 00:01:50,076 --> 00:01:52,512 A nine-year veteran with PSA, 39 00:01:52,579 --> 00:01:55,748 he's on track to become a captain. 40 00:01:55,815 --> 00:01:59,853 Captain Jim Mcferon has been with the airline for 17 years. 41 00:02:01,888 --> 00:02:03,389 Known as a born pilot, 42 00:02:03,456 --> 00:02:06,092 he is highly regarded by his colleagues. 43 00:02:07,594 --> 00:02:11,064 This is the second flight of the day for both men. 44 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:15,602 PSA 182 is cleared visual approach, runway 2-7. 45 00:02:15,668 --> 00:02:18,738 Thank you. Cleared visual approach, 2-7. 46 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:21,975 Among the 128 passengers, 47 00:02:22,041 --> 00:02:26,813 there are 30 pacific southwest employees. 48 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,815 Many are heading back to the company's home base 49 00:02:28,882 --> 00:02:30,049 in San Diego. 50 00:02:30,116 --> 00:02:32,485 PSA was an excellent airline. 51 00:02:32,552 --> 00:02:36,990 They had a super maintenance record, super safety record. 52 00:02:37,056 --> 00:02:39,726 They were recognized in the industry as, 53 00:02:39,792 --> 00:02:42,662 wow, these guys are good. 54 00:02:45,632 --> 00:02:48,935 Pilots are cautious when arriving at San Diego. 55 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:51,938 Lindbergh airfield is the busiest single-runway airport 56 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:53,673 in North America. 57 00:02:58,011 --> 00:02:58,978 San Diego Lindbergh airport 58 00:02:59,045 --> 00:03:01,981 is a challenging place to fly into 59 00:03:02,048 --> 00:03:03,983 because of its proximity to downtown 60 00:03:04,050 --> 00:03:07,387 and also some of the obstructions around it. 61 00:03:09,155 --> 00:03:10,690 There's a very drastic terrain drop. 62 00:03:10,757 --> 00:03:14,193 Pilots do it all the time, 63 00:03:14,260 --> 00:03:16,296 and some of them don't like to talk about it, 64 00:03:16,362 --> 00:03:19,065 but it's a little scary. 65 00:03:19,132 --> 00:03:20,466 There was always concern that, 66 00:03:20,533 --> 00:03:24,304 wow, someday, you know, there could be a major crash. 67 00:03:30,476 --> 00:03:33,112 Several other airports nearby are abuzz 68 00:03:33,179 --> 00:03:37,150 with commercial, military and private planes. 69 00:03:37,216 --> 00:03:39,686 The airspace around San Diego international 70 00:03:39,752 --> 00:03:44,824 is quite busy because of the 600 flights a day, in and out. 71 00:03:44,891 --> 00:03:49,028 So there are planes taking off and landing constantly. 72 00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:52,899 Flight 182 will have to thread its way 73 00:03:52,966 --> 00:03:55,835 through all this traffic while passing over the city, 74 00:03:55,902 --> 00:03:59,372 preparing to land on runway 2-7. 75 00:04:01,641 --> 00:04:04,410 Martin Wayne is at the engineer's console. 76 00:04:06,746 --> 00:04:09,082 As they approach the airport, 77 00:04:09,148 --> 00:04:12,118 he contacts the company's head office. 78 00:04:12,185 --> 00:04:16,422 We're out of Los Angeles, San Diego at 0905. 79 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:19,792 PSA 182, roger. 80 00:04:19,859 --> 00:04:22,428 A little late, but thank you. 81 00:04:22,495 --> 00:04:24,297 I just called my off report. The guy started laughing. 82 00:04:26,566 --> 00:04:30,970 Make it up by reporting our next takeoff now. 83 00:04:31,037 --> 00:04:32,672 Very nice. 84 00:04:32,739 --> 00:04:34,874 Even though they were fun and laid-back, 85 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:36,776 they were still highly professional. 86 00:04:36,843 --> 00:04:39,245 The crews were just personable. 87 00:04:39,312 --> 00:04:42,749 You felt like they wanted you to be on their airplanes. 88 00:04:42,815 --> 00:04:44,884 It was great. 89 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:47,620 "Catch our smile" was their motto. 90 00:04:47,687 --> 00:04:49,055 It was an experience. 91 00:04:49,122 --> 00:04:50,723 It was fun. 92 00:04:56,529 --> 00:04:58,131 Flight 182's approach to Lindbergh field 93 00:04:58,197 --> 00:05:01,067 is being handled by an approach controller 94 00:05:01,134 --> 00:05:04,203 at a facility nine miles north of the airport. 95 00:05:08,241 --> 00:05:11,010 The approach control facility is quite busy, 96 00:05:11,077 --> 00:05:12,311 and that's stressful, because you're handling 97 00:05:12,378 --> 00:05:15,014 so many different airplanes in the same airspace. 98 00:05:15,081 --> 00:05:16,649 When the controller spots a Cessna 99 00:05:16,716 --> 00:05:20,486 flying ahead of flight 182, 100 00:05:20,553 --> 00:05:22,188 he makes sure that they can see it. 101 00:05:22,255 --> 00:05:27,260 PSA 182, traffic's at 12 o'clock, three miles out, 1,700. 102 00:05:28,594 --> 00:05:30,830 Got it. 103 00:05:30,897 --> 00:05:33,366 Traffic in sight. 104 00:05:33,433 --> 00:05:35,568 They were issued traffic. 105 00:05:35,635 --> 00:05:37,503 They acknowledged sight of the traffic. 106 00:05:37,570 --> 00:05:38,604 Okay, sir. 107 00:05:38,671 --> 00:05:39,772 Maintain visual separation. 108 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,143 Contact Lindbergh tower, 133.3. 109 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:45,344 Have a nice day. 110 00:05:45,411 --> 00:05:46,479 Okay. 111 00:05:46,546 --> 00:05:48,514 Visual separation means that the pilot 112 00:05:48,581 --> 00:05:50,316 has another aircraft in sight and acknowledges it. 113 00:05:50,383 --> 00:05:52,552 Got it. 114 00:05:52,618 --> 00:05:55,321 Once the visual approach is accepted by the pilot, 115 00:05:55,388 --> 00:05:57,924 he's then responsible for maintaining separation 116 00:05:57,990 --> 00:05:59,625 from that traffic. 117 00:05:59,692 --> 00:06:01,027 It's somewhat like two boats passing. 118 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:03,329 It's the responsibility of the overtaking boat 119 00:06:03,396 --> 00:06:06,165 to maintain separation visually. 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,501 As it approaches the airport, 121 00:06:08,568 --> 00:06:11,504 flight 182 banks left 122 00:06:11,571 --> 00:06:13,106 so that it's flying parallel to the runway, 123 00:06:13,172 --> 00:06:16,709 ready to turn and land when given permission. 124 00:06:16,776 --> 00:06:19,645 I would characterize this as wonderfully routine. 125 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:23,549 There wasn't anything out of the ordinary with this flight. 126 00:06:23,616 --> 00:06:25,818 With the plane now less than five miles 127 00:06:25,885 --> 00:06:27,086 from the runway, 128 00:06:27,153 --> 00:06:29,188 a controller in the airport's tower takes over 129 00:06:29,255 --> 00:06:32,191 to guide the flight in for landing. 130 00:06:32,258 --> 00:06:35,361 Lindbergh , PSA 182, downwind. 131 00:06:35,428 --> 00:06:37,964 182, roger. 132 00:06:38,030 --> 00:06:40,099 Within the airport traffic area, 133 00:06:40,166 --> 00:06:41,934 which is that five mile radius, 134 00:06:42,001 --> 00:06:43,970 the airplanes coming into the airport to land and takeoff 135 00:06:44,036 --> 00:06:47,607 are controlled by that controller. 136 00:06:47,673 --> 00:06:50,042 The tower controller is juggling several planes 137 00:06:50,109 --> 00:06:53,045 in addition to the PSA 727. 138 00:06:54,580 --> 00:06:58,985 PSA 182, traffic 12 o'clock, one mile, a Cessna. 139 00:06:59,051 --> 00:07:01,454 Because there's only one runway at Lindbergh , 140 00:07:01,521 --> 00:07:04,323 it requires some air traffic control spacing 141 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:06,859 because of the difference in the speeds of the aircraft. 142 00:07:06,926 --> 00:07:09,796 PSA 182, cleared to land. 143 00:07:09,862 --> 00:07:11,964 182 is cleared to land. 144 00:07:12,031 --> 00:07:14,167 The jet's quite a significantly faster 145 00:07:14,233 --> 00:07:16,068 approach speed than the Cessna, 146 00:07:16,135 --> 00:07:18,738 so you have to give them more spacing. 147 00:07:21,207 --> 00:07:23,376 It's now 9:00 a.m. 148 00:07:23,442 --> 00:07:25,745 Many passengers on flight 182 are planning 149 00:07:25,812 --> 00:07:29,015 to put in a full day's work in San Diego. 150 00:07:42,728 --> 00:07:43,830 Gear down. 151 00:07:43,896 --> 00:07:45,064 Minutes from landing, 152 00:07:45,131 --> 00:07:48,701 pilot Bob Fox spots a distant plane. 153 00:07:48,768 --> 00:07:50,102 There's one underneath. 154 00:07:50,169 --> 00:07:52,038 I was looking at that inbound over there. 155 00:07:59,011 --> 00:08:01,514 Easy, baby, easy, baby. 156 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:05,885 A professional photographer 157 00:08:05,952 --> 00:08:09,322 happens to spot flight 182 in flames. 158 00:08:11,023 --> 00:08:11,958 What have we got here? 159 00:08:12,024 --> 00:08:12,859 -It's bad. - Huh? 160 00:08:12,925 --> 00:08:15,761 We're hit, man, we're hit. 161 00:08:15,828 --> 00:08:17,997 Tower, we're going down. 162 00:08:18,064 --> 00:08:19,332 This is PSA. 163 00:08:19,398 --> 00:08:20,666 Okay. 164 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:23,803 We'll call the equipment for you. 165 00:08:28,174 --> 00:08:29,976 The approach controller's radar reveals 166 00:08:30,042 --> 00:08:34,247 that the 727 has collided with the Cessna. 167 00:08:37,483 --> 00:08:39,986 Jesus Christ. 168 00:08:40,052 --> 00:08:42,455 It's an aluminum shower. 169 00:08:42,521 --> 00:08:45,458 To have two aircraft under your control collide 170 00:08:45,524 --> 00:08:48,060 is the worst nightmare, I think, for any controller. 171 00:08:48,127 --> 00:08:51,464 I don't think anything else could be that bad. 172 00:08:53,032 --> 00:08:54,901 This is it, baby. 173 00:08:54,967 --> 00:08:57,470 Brace yourself. 174 00:08:57,536 --> 00:08:59,705 Mom, I love ya. 175 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:19,025 All of a sudden, it just went right in, 176 00:09:19,091 --> 00:09:21,160 just a burst of flames. 177 00:09:21,227 --> 00:09:23,095 It was just incredible. 178 00:09:29,835 --> 00:09:31,237 It's burning up. 179 00:09:31,304 --> 00:09:32,905 We can't do anything about it. Come on, let's go. 180 00:09:32,972 --> 00:09:35,074 My hair stood up on the back of my head 181 00:09:35,141 --> 00:09:38,611 when I learned that this crash had occurred. 182 00:09:41,647 --> 00:09:43,749 This huge mushroom cloud of smoke and fire 183 00:09:43,816 --> 00:09:47,253 was seen by thousands of people. 184 00:09:50,356 --> 00:09:53,859 Two planes have collided and fallen from the sky 185 00:09:53,926 --> 00:09:55,795 over San Diego. 186 00:09:58,197 --> 00:10:00,266 The city is in shock. 187 00:10:03,336 --> 00:10:05,037 But the full scope of the tragedy 188 00:10:05,104 --> 00:10:07,440 is only beginning to emerge. 189 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:22,855 Hundreds of people watched in horror 190 00:10:22,922 --> 00:10:24,590 as the two planes collided and crashed 191 00:10:24,657 --> 00:10:28,461 into a quiet San Diego residential neighborhood . 192 00:10:28,527 --> 00:10:30,363 This is the biggest disaster 193 00:10:30,429 --> 00:10:33,299 that's ever happened in San Diego county. 194 00:10:35,201 --> 00:10:38,971 One witness reported seeing falling bodies hit a car. 195 00:10:39,038 --> 00:10:42,108 Two bodies were bounced out of the PSA. 196 00:10:42,174 --> 00:10:44,744 One hit through the windshield, killed the mother. 197 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:46,779 The other one hit on the side 198 00:10:46,846 --> 00:10:47,913 and killed her four-month-old baby. 199 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:50,016 Police officers covered up the bodies, 200 00:10:50,082 --> 00:10:52,184 and that's about all they could do. 201 00:10:53,786 --> 00:10:56,155 It's feared that everyone on board the two planes 202 00:10:56,222 --> 00:10:58,157 is dead. 203 00:10:58,224 --> 00:11:02,962 The PSA plane landed at Dwight and Nile streets. 204 00:11:05,931 --> 00:11:08,701 The Cessna landed about six blocks away 205 00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:12,204 in front of a house, near 32nd and Polk. 206 00:11:16,609 --> 00:11:19,879 22 homes are destroyed. 207 00:11:21,547 --> 00:11:23,883 Seven residents are killed. 208 00:11:25,618 --> 00:11:28,154 Nine more are injured. 209 00:11:28,220 --> 00:11:30,189 The city feels overwhelmed. 210 00:11:30,256 --> 00:11:31,557 We heard it on the news, 211 00:11:31,624 --> 00:11:32,992 so we came down here to see what we could do to help. 212 00:11:33,059 --> 00:11:36,729 We've been walking through here carrying water, 213 00:11:36,796 --> 00:11:39,031 and it's just such a bad scene. 214 00:11:39,098 --> 00:11:41,033 It's really horrible. 215 00:11:42,501 --> 00:11:44,904 Greg Clark is a San Diego police officer 216 00:11:44,970 --> 00:11:48,808 who rushes to the scene to help search for survivors. 217 00:11:48,874 --> 00:11:53,179 For me, it looked like a large bomb had gone off. 218 00:11:53,245 --> 00:11:54,346 Everything that was in the path of the aircraft, 219 00:11:54,413 --> 00:11:57,516 just completely destroyed. 220 00:11:59,051 --> 00:12:02,288 There were passenger seats stuck in the side of houses 221 00:12:02,354 --> 00:12:06,092 and pieces of fuselage just, just everywhere. 222 00:12:10,596 --> 00:12:14,834 I found nobody that was in one piece. 223 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:16,635 Two hours after the crash, 224 00:12:16,702 --> 00:12:21,774 NTSB investigator Wally Funk arrives from Los Angeles. 225 00:12:21,841 --> 00:12:23,709 Since I was the lead investigator 226 00:12:23,776 --> 00:12:25,211 for that particular day, 227 00:12:25,277 --> 00:12:27,546 I got the call from the FAA duty officer, 228 00:12:27,613 --> 00:12:30,483 and he informed me that there had been a midair collision 229 00:12:30,549 --> 00:12:33,419 in San Diego. 230 00:12:33,486 --> 00:12:34,453 Oh, my word. 231 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,556 The accident scene was horrendous. 232 00:12:37,623 --> 00:12:40,826 First, the San Diego police department escorted me in 233 00:12:40,893 --> 00:12:43,262 and introduced me to the fire marshal, 234 00:12:43,329 --> 00:12:46,332 'cause they had control of the entire wreckage. 235 00:12:46,398 --> 00:12:49,068 Any survivors yet? 236 00:12:49,135 --> 00:12:51,804 That was just chilling that you suddenly, 237 00:12:51,871 --> 00:12:55,307 you realized there's, there are no survivors. 238 00:12:57,009 --> 00:12:59,411 The medical personnel were frustrated, 239 00:12:59,478 --> 00:13:01,380 because everybody came to the realization 240 00:13:01,447 --> 00:13:05,017 that there was nothing that they could do. 241 00:13:05,084 --> 00:13:07,553 144 people are dead, 242 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:11,924 including the seven on the ground. 243 00:13:11,991 --> 00:13:15,394 It's the biggest airline disaster in American history. 244 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:19,765 It was entirely something that I had not expected. 245 00:13:19,832 --> 00:13:23,736 There was so many bits and parts and pieces around, 246 00:13:23,802 --> 00:13:25,738 not only the aircraft, but the homes. 247 00:13:28,107 --> 00:13:31,477 I just started by photographing... 248 00:13:33,579 --> 00:13:35,381 ...and writing notes. 249 00:13:35,447 --> 00:13:37,616 A real big concern of mine was 250 00:13:37,683 --> 00:13:41,187 how am I gonna put this puzzle together? 251 00:13:41,253 --> 00:13:42,588 Funk needs to confirm that 252 00:13:42,655 --> 00:13:45,824 the wreckage of a small plane found six blocks away 253 00:13:45,891 --> 00:13:48,360 is in fact what collided with the 727. 254 00:13:48,427 --> 00:13:50,796 There's no doubt about it. 255 00:13:50,863 --> 00:13:53,165 We had paint transfers. 256 00:13:53,232 --> 00:13:57,169 We had pieces and parts from the two different aircraft. 257 00:13:57,236 --> 00:14:00,039 Yes, this was an absolute midair collision. 258 00:14:00,105 --> 00:14:01,974 There's no doubt about it. 259 00:14:02,041 --> 00:14:04,777 But there's a much larger question looming... 260 00:14:04,843 --> 00:14:08,013 How could such an accident happen? 261 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,284 We had to visualize from a very mangled mess of metal 262 00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:15,154 where the two came together. 263 00:14:16,555 --> 00:14:19,725 I really felt compelled to bring the Cessna wreckage 264 00:14:19,792 --> 00:14:20,759 over to the main wreckage. 265 00:14:20,826 --> 00:14:22,962 Put that down right there, please. 266 00:14:23,028 --> 00:14:27,900 So we could kind of understand really what had happened. 267 00:14:27,967 --> 00:14:29,835 Eventually, the wreckage of the two planes 268 00:14:29,902 --> 00:14:32,805 is sent to a hangar for reconstruction. 269 00:14:32,871 --> 00:14:34,206 It's just a big puzzle. 270 00:14:34,273 --> 00:14:38,177 You have to try one piece at a time putting it together. 271 00:14:38,244 --> 00:14:41,180 Funk records as many witness interviews as possible 272 00:14:41,247 --> 00:14:43,949 while memories are still fresh. 273 00:14:44,016 --> 00:14:47,086 But I find in all my investigations 274 00:14:47,152 --> 00:14:52,691 that children up to 17, 18 years old are my best witnesses, 275 00:14:52,758 --> 00:14:57,463 because a youngster will give me a really good interpretation 276 00:14:57,529 --> 00:15:01,533 of what they saw, not what they thought they heard, 277 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,102 or what they thought they saw. 278 00:15:03,168 --> 00:15:04,203 There were quite a few people that described 279 00:15:04,270 --> 00:15:06,538 what they saw falling out of the sky. 280 00:15:06,605 --> 00:15:09,408 Can you tell me exactly what you saw when you looked up? 281 00:15:09,475 --> 00:15:12,311 But all the interviews are disappointing. 282 00:15:12,378 --> 00:15:15,514 So you didn't see the actual collision? 283 00:15:15,581 --> 00:15:19,351 We had nobody that really saw the whole thing happen. 284 00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:22,755 They only saw it after the bang. 285 00:15:25,758 --> 00:15:28,127 The closest thing to a sighting of the collision 286 00:15:28,193 --> 00:15:29,328 is a television crew's footage of the Cessna 287 00:15:29,395 --> 00:15:32,398 plummeting to the ground. 288 00:15:35,167 --> 00:15:38,404 The NTSB sends additional staff from Washington, 289 00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:41,307 including senior investigator Philip Hogue. 290 00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:44,410 Let's get right down to it, all right? 291 00:15:44,476 --> 00:15:46,779 I know that you've done a heck of a lot of research, 292 00:15:46,845 --> 00:15:48,314 and you've been mainly concentrating 293 00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:49,848 on the larger aircraft. 294 00:15:49,915 --> 00:15:50,816 But it was great to see the guys 295 00:15:50,883 --> 00:15:53,252 when they finally got there . 296 00:15:53,319 --> 00:15:55,954 The technical support was wonderful. 297 00:15:56,021 --> 00:15:58,324 We kind of divvied up the duties. 298 00:15:58,390 --> 00:16:01,293 So I will tackle the Cessna. 299 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,862 Needing to know more about the smaller plane, 300 00:16:03,929 --> 00:16:07,066 they review its records for the day. 301 00:16:07,132 --> 00:16:09,968 The Cessna belonged to a flight training school. 302 00:16:10,035 --> 00:16:13,138 A student pilot was having a lesson. 303 00:16:13,205 --> 00:16:15,341 We had a flight instructor sitting on the right side, 304 00:16:15,407 --> 00:16:17,710 and we had a student pilot 305 00:16:17,776 --> 00:16:22,047 learning to get his instrument rating. 306 00:16:22,114 --> 00:16:24,016 Investigators learn that the student pilot 307 00:16:24,083 --> 00:16:25,784 approached runway nine twice, 308 00:16:25,851 --> 00:16:29,922 practicing landing using only his instruments. 309 00:16:33,692 --> 00:16:36,362 Instrument pilots need more the practice 310 00:16:36,428 --> 00:16:39,331 of approaching the runways as opposed to the landings. 311 00:16:40,933 --> 00:16:43,302 Local media jump to a conclusion. 312 00:16:43,369 --> 00:16:44,803 There were a lot of people who thought 313 00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:49,441 that the crash had to be the fault of that Cessna, 314 00:16:49,508 --> 00:16:52,845 because they had a... It had a student pilot. 315 00:16:52,911 --> 00:16:54,213 There can be a built-in bias 316 00:16:54,279 --> 00:16:56,882 in the traveling public's mind and the media's mind 317 00:16:56,949 --> 00:17:01,920 that airliners should have priority in and out of airports, 318 00:17:01,987 --> 00:17:03,922 and this is not the way that it works. 319 00:17:03,989 --> 00:17:06,792 It's a first come, first serve system. 320 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:10,362 However, with a jetliner on an assigned glide path 321 00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:12,998 coming into a major airport, 322 00:17:13,065 --> 00:17:14,800 people wanted to know how come that little airplane 323 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:16,935 was up there in the way. 324 00:17:19,138 --> 00:17:20,572 Hopefully, the black boxes 325 00:17:20,639 --> 00:17:24,176 salvaged from the crash site 326 00:17:20,639 --> 00:17:24,176 will help answer this question. 327 00:17:26,512 --> 00:17:29,782 One was up front, which was the voice recorder, 328 00:17:29,848 --> 00:17:31,850 and one was in the aft stairwell, 329 00:17:31,917 --> 00:17:34,686 which was the instrument recorder. 330 00:17:34,753 --> 00:17:37,890 They were flown back to Washington, D.C. 331 00:17:37,956 --> 00:17:39,858 Figuring out what was said in the cockpit 332 00:17:39,925 --> 00:17:44,263 and what the instruments said takes a lot of time. 333 00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:47,499 In the meantime, 334 00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:49,868 investigators interview the first of the two controllers 335 00:17:49,935 --> 00:17:51,670 who were guiding the planes. 336 00:17:51,737 --> 00:17:54,606 Can you show us the two flight paths? 337 00:17:54,673 --> 00:17:55,908 The approach controller 338 00:17:55,974 --> 00:17:58,444 remembers the planned routes of the two planes, 339 00:17:58,510 --> 00:18:01,313 but he can't be sure what routes they actually flew, 340 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:04,950 because approach radar is not recorded. 341 00:18:05,017 --> 00:18:09,621 So the 727 was flying east to do a turnaround 342 00:18:09,688 --> 00:18:12,958 and land on runway 27. 343 00:18:13,025 --> 00:18:15,794 And the Cessna was flying northeast, 344 00:18:15,861 --> 00:18:17,996 but it was miles ahead of the 727, 345 00:18:18,063 --> 00:18:19,064 probably headed home after doing touch-and-gos 346 00:18:19,131 --> 00:18:22,067 on runway nine. 347 00:18:22,134 --> 00:18:24,703 They should have missed each other by over a mile. 348 00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:29,575 Since I had been into Lindbergh several times as a pilot, 349 00:18:29,641 --> 00:18:35,113 it occurred to me...were they on the right headings, altitudes? 350 00:18:36,915 --> 00:18:38,617 Learning the exact flight paths 351 00:18:38,684 --> 00:18:40,719 will require complex calculations 352 00:18:40,786 --> 00:18:44,389 that include data from an air traffic station in Los Angeles. 353 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,929 Meanwhile, a transcript of the controller's conversation 354 00:18:50,996 --> 00:18:52,197 with both planes reveals 355 00:18:52,264 --> 00:18:56,735 the pilots were aware of each other's positions. 356 00:18:56,802 --> 00:19:01,006 So the PSA crew reported seeing the Cessna 357 00:19:01,073 --> 00:19:02,774 when they were still three miles apart. 358 00:19:02,841 --> 00:19:07,312 The planes would have been somewhere around here... 359 00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:11,383 ...and here. 360 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:12,184 Got it. 361 00:19:12,251 --> 00:19:14,286 Traffic in sight. 362 00:19:14,353 --> 00:19:15,254 The Cessna pilot was also made aware 363 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,357 of the 727 behind them. 364 00:19:18,423 --> 00:19:20,325 Traffic at 6 o'clock, two miles eastbound. 365 00:19:20,392 --> 00:19:25,931 A PSA jet inbound to Lindbergh out of 3,200 has you in sight. 366 00:19:25,998 --> 00:19:27,900 Investigators want to know, 367 00:19:27,966 --> 00:19:30,669 if the pilots of both planes knew of each other, 368 00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:32,938 why did their aircraft collide? 369 00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:37,276 New radar equipment installed just one month earlier 370 00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:39,711 was designed to prevent exactly this type of incident. 371 00:19:41,780 --> 00:19:44,950 The collision alert system was instituted 372 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:47,653 to prevent collisions, to alert controllers to the fact 373 00:19:47,719 --> 00:19:52,391 that there was an imminent collision between two aircraft. 374 00:19:52,457 --> 00:19:53,692 Didn't you get any warning? 375 00:19:56,361 --> 00:19:59,164 We did. 376 00:19:59,231 --> 00:20:01,166 We ignored it. 377 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,503 Explain. 378 00:20:04,570 --> 00:20:05,871 Well, when the alert sounded, 379 00:20:05,938 --> 00:20:08,507 I mentioned it to my supervisor. 380 00:20:16,281 --> 00:20:18,050 It's the alarm again. I talked to both planes. 381 00:20:18,116 --> 00:20:21,453 PSA 182's confirmed a visual sighting of the Cessna. 382 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,021 We're not expected to contact the pilots 383 00:20:23,088 --> 00:20:25,157 if they're flying by visual rules, 384 00:20:25,223 --> 00:20:28,160 not to mention we get about 13 alarms a day, so. 385 00:20:28,226 --> 00:20:32,631 He went to his advisor and told him what he had, 386 00:20:32,698 --> 00:20:34,933 but since they had had so many false ones, 387 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,069 they really just kind of disregarded it. 388 00:20:37,135 --> 00:20:41,139 The controllers decide not to act on the alert, 389 00:20:41,206 --> 00:20:42,841 but they still contact the Cessna 390 00:20:42,908 --> 00:20:45,410 and repeat an earlier message. 391 00:20:45,477 --> 00:20:46,311 Traffic in your vicinity. 392 00:20:46,378 --> 00:20:48,480 PSA jet has you in sight. 393 00:20:48,547 --> 00:20:50,248 He's descending for Lindbergh . 394 00:20:50,315 --> 00:20:51,917 You could almost call it a courtesy call 395 00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:54,419 by the approach controller to the Cessna. 396 00:20:57,356 --> 00:21:01,526 But at that exact moment, the planes collide. 397 00:21:01,593 --> 00:21:04,796 I feel they should have... 398 00:21:04,863 --> 00:21:07,766 ... watched these two aircraft 399 00:21:07,833 --> 00:21:08,900 a little closer. 400 00:21:08,967 --> 00:21:12,604 I think they were rather cavalier about it. 401 00:21:12,671 --> 00:21:13,605 Investigators interview 402 00:21:13,672 --> 00:21:16,441 the Lindbergh tower controller, 403 00:21:16,508 --> 00:21:20,178 trying to understand why he also failed to warn both planes 404 00:21:20,245 --> 00:21:21,680 about their impending collision. 405 00:21:21,747 --> 00:21:24,850 They discover that to monitor traffic, 406 00:21:24,916 --> 00:21:28,520 he relied on a less sophisticated form of radar. 407 00:21:28,587 --> 00:21:29,721 The tower controller did not have 408 00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:32,090 the collision alert system at the time. 409 00:21:32,157 --> 00:21:33,158 When the controller saw the planes 410 00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:35,527 within a half mile of each other, 411 00:21:35,594 --> 00:21:39,231 he made contact, warning the 727. 412 00:21:39,297 --> 00:21:44,269 PSA 182, traffic 12 o'clock, one mile, a Cessna. 413 00:21:44,336 --> 00:21:46,605 I think he's passing off to our right. 414 00:21:46,672 --> 00:21:48,040 Yeah. 415 00:21:48,106 --> 00:21:51,176 If the pilot says, "he's passing off to our right", 416 00:21:51,243 --> 00:21:54,046 this implies that he's still maintaining visual separation. 417 00:21:54,112 --> 00:21:57,916 It was his responsibility, and you would not worry about it. 418 00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:00,252 After talking to both controllers, 419 00:22:00,318 --> 00:22:02,454 investigators still have no answer to the key question 420 00:22:02,521 --> 00:22:06,358 in the midair collision... 421 00:22:06,425 --> 00:22:08,694 Who crashed into whom? 422 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:14,366 Now let's have the next acetate, please, 423 00:22:14,433 --> 00:22:17,035 and see where that takes us. 424 00:22:17,102 --> 00:22:18,170 When they finally calculate 425 00:22:18,236 --> 00:22:20,839 the two planes' actual radar tracks, 426 00:22:20,906 --> 00:22:22,107 the answer becomes clear. 427 00:22:22,174 --> 00:22:26,812 This is where the 727 has rear-ended the Cessna. 428 00:22:29,681 --> 00:22:32,718 The Cessna never passed off to the right. 429 00:22:32,784 --> 00:22:35,754 He was always in front of PSA. 430 00:22:35,821 --> 00:22:36,822 The 100-ton aircraft 431 00:22:36,888 --> 00:22:40,425 flying at almost 186 miles per hour 432 00:22:40,492 --> 00:22:43,628 simply tore apart the much slower and lighter Cessna. 433 00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:45,764 See, we had plotted down, 434 00:22:45,831 --> 00:22:46,798 this is the third position... 435 00:22:46,865 --> 00:22:49,601 The radar track reveals 436 00:22:49,668 --> 00:22:50,602 another important detail. 437 00:22:50,669 --> 00:22:52,204 Just before the impact, 438 00:22:52,270 --> 00:22:55,607 the Cessna turned right into the 727's path. 439 00:22:55,674 --> 00:22:58,810 Why the change in heading? 440 00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:00,512 The trajectories of the two airplanes are such 441 00:23:00,579 --> 00:23:02,681 that had the Cessna not drifted, 442 00:23:02,748 --> 00:23:06,084 the airplanes would not have collided. 443 00:23:06,151 --> 00:23:09,054 Close examination of the Cessna's training flight log 444 00:23:09,121 --> 00:23:12,457 reveals one possible reason for the change in direction. 445 00:23:15,193 --> 00:23:17,262 He was wearing a training hood. 446 00:23:17,329 --> 00:23:20,098 The Cessna pilot wore a training hood. 447 00:23:20,165 --> 00:23:23,435 It's a device worn during instrument flight training. 448 00:23:23,502 --> 00:23:26,338 A pilot undergoing training 449 00:23:26,404 --> 00:23:27,773 for an instrument rating 450 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:30,776 must learn to fly with exclusive reference to the instruments. 451 00:23:30,842 --> 00:23:32,577 So on good weather days, 452 00:23:32,644 --> 00:23:35,313 there has to be some means to block the natural horizon, 453 00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:36,448 the outside. 454 00:23:36,515 --> 00:23:37,616 And it was a black hood 455 00:23:37,682 --> 00:23:40,919 that came out about this far from his face 456 00:23:40,986 --> 00:23:43,188 so that he couldn't see outside. 457 00:23:43,255 --> 00:23:45,290 Funk wonders if the hood could have caused him 458 00:23:45,357 --> 00:23:47,859 to go off course at the worst possible time. 459 00:23:50,295 --> 00:23:54,499 The Cessna was told to stay on a 70-degree heading. 460 00:23:54,566 --> 00:23:57,068 Cessna 7711 golf, 461 00:23:57,135 --> 00:24:01,173 San Diego departure, fly heading 070. 462 00:24:01,239 --> 00:24:02,374 Pilots are taught to scan their instruments 463 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,443 to maintain their heading. 464 00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:07,746 On occasion you'll see headings that will drift 465 00:24:07,813 --> 00:24:11,516 because a learning pilot doesn't have the heading 466 00:24:11,583 --> 00:24:14,152 in that scan fast enough. 467 00:24:14,219 --> 00:24:16,221 But even if the hood did play a role 468 00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:17,556 in causing the Cessna to drift... 469 00:24:17,622 --> 00:24:21,960 That does not explain why the PSA crew 470 00:24:22,027 --> 00:24:24,563 couldn't see the Cessna. 471 00:24:24,629 --> 00:24:26,631 Got it. 472 00:24:26,698 --> 00:24:28,266 Traffic in sight. 473 00:24:29,534 --> 00:24:32,037 How did the veteran crew of a 727 474 00:24:32,103 --> 00:24:35,974 lose sight of a plane flying directly in front of it? 475 00:24:43,481 --> 00:24:46,718 Investigators now realize that they may never find out why 476 00:24:46,785 --> 00:24:49,487 the pilot of a Cessna changed its heading, 477 00:24:49,554 --> 00:24:53,325 putting it on the same flight path as a 727. 478 00:24:53,391 --> 00:24:58,730 Why the Cessna pilot did not stay on his assigned heading, 479 00:24:58,797 --> 00:25:00,699 I can't answer that question. 480 00:25:00,765 --> 00:25:01,833 But it's important to know that 481 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:04,502 that drift of that heading wasn't so severe 482 00:25:04,569 --> 00:25:06,304 that the air traffic controller called him 483 00:25:06,371 --> 00:25:08,173 and said, "what's your heading?". 484 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,009 So, clearly, they did turn according to the radar, 485 00:25:11,076 --> 00:25:16,381 but the significance of it is a bit more questionable. 486 00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:18,283 What's not in question 487 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,620 is that it was the responsibility of the 727's crew 488 00:25:21,686 --> 00:25:23,722 to avoid the Cessna. 489 00:25:23,788 --> 00:25:25,657 The PSA crew, when they acknowledged 490 00:25:25,724 --> 00:25:27,726 they had the Cessna in sight, 491 00:25:27,792 --> 00:25:29,928 at that moment became responsible 492 00:25:29,995 --> 00:25:32,497 for keeping the airplanes separate. 493 00:25:36,468 --> 00:25:37,903 In Washington, 494 00:25:37,969 --> 00:25:40,939 investigators review the PSA crew's last moments 495 00:25:41,006 --> 00:25:44,276 on the recovered cockpit voice recording. 496 00:25:44,342 --> 00:25:46,211 All right, hit it. 497 00:25:47,379 --> 00:25:50,215 Are we clear of that Cessna? 498 00:25:50,282 --> 00:25:51,449 Supposed to be. 499 00:25:51,516 --> 00:25:51,983 I guess. 500 00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:53,785 I hope. 501 00:25:56,688 --> 00:25:57,455 Oh, yeah. 502 00:25:57,522 --> 00:25:59,424 Hold on. Go back. 503 00:25:59,491 --> 00:26:01,693 Philip Hogue focuses in on the conversation 504 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,864 recorded 35 seconds before the collision. 505 00:26:05,931 --> 00:26:07,098 Are we clear of that Cessna? 506 00:26:07,165 --> 00:26:08,266 Supposed to be. 507 00:26:08,333 --> 00:26:14,372 I guess. I hope. 508 00:26:14,439 --> 00:26:15,307 Oh, yeah, before we turned downwind, 509 00:26:15,373 --> 00:26:17,742 I saw them about one o'clock. 510 00:26:17,809 --> 00:26:20,712 Probably behind us now. 511 00:26:20,779 --> 00:26:23,415 The PSA crew not only doesn't see the Cessna, 512 00:26:23,481 --> 00:26:26,885 they assume they have already passed it. 513 00:26:26,952 --> 00:26:29,921 It was right in front of them the whole time. 514 00:26:29,988 --> 00:26:32,090 The 727, when it's flying in level flight, 515 00:26:32,157 --> 00:26:35,927 is a slightly nose-up condition, 516 00:26:35,994 --> 00:26:38,630 so that the pilots, as they look out, 517 00:26:38,697 --> 00:26:40,532 they're looking over the nose of the airplane. 518 00:26:40,598 --> 00:26:43,835 Was the nose of the aircraft high 519 00:26:43,902 --> 00:26:45,971 and they didn't see the Cessna? 520 00:26:46,037 --> 00:26:50,575 They may not have realized the Cessna was as close as it was. 521 00:26:50,642 --> 00:26:52,811 The NTSB conducts a study to determine 522 00:26:52,877 --> 00:26:55,613 how long the PSA crew could see the Cessna 523 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,649 through their windscreen. 524 00:26:57,716 --> 00:26:58,917 Welcome aboard. 525 00:26:58,984 --> 00:27:01,920 Now use the reference points to adjust your seat. 526 00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:04,089 They start by adjusting the pilots' seats 527 00:27:04,155 --> 00:27:06,024 for optimal viewing 528 00:27:06,091 --> 00:27:09,761 using a device called the design eye reference point. 529 00:27:09,828 --> 00:27:12,230 The manufacturers designed a very simple 530 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:13,565 but very effective system 531 00:27:13,631 --> 00:27:15,934 where you line up little balls 532 00:27:16,001 --> 00:27:17,669 in the center post of the windscreen 533 00:27:17,736 --> 00:27:21,139 that puts your eye in the same position every time. 534 00:27:21,206 --> 00:27:23,641 Now, if you would, please take a measurement 535 00:27:23,708 --> 00:27:27,846 from my eye line to the white ball in the middle. 536 00:27:32,183 --> 00:27:36,254 Okay, now from the eyeball to the floor, please. 537 00:27:36,321 --> 00:27:37,589 Once the pilots' viewing positions 538 00:27:37,655 --> 00:27:39,357 have been determined, 539 00:27:39,424 --> 00:27:40,625 the photographer uses a special camera 540 00:27:40,692 --> 00:27:44,896 to take panoramic images of each pilot's view. 541 00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:50,602 Okay, let's have a look at what the pilots can see. 542 00:27:50,668 --> 00:27:51,870 Would you put up the view... 543 00:27:51,936 --> 00:27:54,806 He starts with the captain's view. 544 00:27:54,873 --> 00:27:57,008 Radar tracks provide the Cessna's heading, 545 00:27:57,075 --> 00:28:00,211 pitch and bank angle. 546 00:28:00,278 --> 00:28:02,380 They plot this data on top of the photographs 547 00:28:02,447 --> 00:28:04,182 in 10 second intervals. 548 00:28:04,249 --> 00:28:08,486 Let's see what the co-pilot can see, please. 549 00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:10,522 What they find is surprising... 550 00:28:10,588 --> 00:28:11,790 A longer than expected time period 551 00:28:11,856 --> 00:28:16,594 in which the PSA crew could see the Cessna. 552 00:28:16,661 --> 00:28:20,098 170 seconds of clear view. 553 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:27,539 The pilots could have seen the Cessna in plain view. 554 00:28:27,605 --> 00:28:33,211 How can you miss a plane that is staring you in the face? 555 00:28:33,278 --> 00:28:38,049 Yeah, it's something falling, she doesn't say what, but, okay. 556 00:28:38,116 --> 00:28:41,286 All right, I'll take that, Sue Pritchard. 557 00:28:41,352 --> 00:28:43,421 Investigators wonder if witness reports 558 00:28:43,488 --> 00:28:46,825 can shed some light on the mystery. 559 00:28:46,891 --> 00:28:49,761 They discover that there may have been something in the air 560 00:28:49,828 --> 00:28:51,896 that misled the pilots. 561 00:28:53,932 --> 00:28:58,870 We had collected 220 witness reports. 562 00:28:58,937 --> 00:29:02,774 16 of those witness reports revealed 563 00:29:02,841 --> 00:29:06,911 that they thought they saw other aircraft in the area. 564 00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:13,451 Air traffic controllers don't remember 565 00:29:13,518 --> 00:29:16,554 a third plane flying nearby. 566 00:29:16,621 --> 00:29:19,524 But many small planes don't carry a transponder, 567 00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:22,694 the device needed to identify them. 568 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,230 Had they not had a transponder, 569 00:29:25,296 --> 00:29:28,399 the third airplane may not have been visible to the radar 570 00:29:28,466 --> 00:29:31,169 in the San Diego approach facility. 571 00:29:31,236 --> 00:29:33,238 Investigators study the cockpit recordings 572 00:29:33,304 --> 00:29:34,639 more closely, 573 00:29:34,706 --> 00:29:37,442 searching for clues about a third plane. 574 00:29:39,344 --> 00:29:40,712 Oh, yeah. 575 00:29:40,778 --> 00:29:42,647 Before we turned downwind, I saw him about one o'clock. 576 00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:43,915 Probably behind us now. 577 00:29:43,982 --> 00:29:46,084 35 seconds before the crash, 578 00:29:46,151 --> 00:29:48,586 the crew assumed the Cessna was safely out of the way. 579 00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:54,392 But the captain's one o'clock reference seems odd. 580 00:29:54,459 --> 00:29:55,994 The flight paths of the two planes 581 00:29:56,060 --> 00:30:00,465 show that the Cessna was never in that position. 582 00:30:00,532 --> 00:30:03,535 The Cessna was at their 11 o'clock. 583 00:30:03,601 --> 00:30:07,372 So what plane were they looking at? 584 00:30:07,438 --> 00:30:09,407 The fact that it was at one o'clock 585 00:30:09,474 --> 00:30:11,709 instead of 11 o'clock indicates 586 00:30:11,776 --> 00:30:14,479 that there's a possibility that he saw another aircraft. 587 00:30:14,546 --> 00:30:16,514 It may have been quite some distance away, 588 00:30:16,581 --> 00:30:18,783 but he saw another aircraft. 589 00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:23,021 Then, another clue about a possible third plane. 590 00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:25,924 There's one underneath. 591 00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:27,625 I was looking at that inbound over there. 592 00:30:27,692 --> 00:30:29,694 The plane he spots is flying inbound. 593 00:30:29,761 --> 00:30:32,664 That means it's flying in the opposite direction 594 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:34,999 of the Cessna that was hit. 595 00:30:36,701 --> 00:30:39,804 It does open and add further credibility 596 00:30:39,871 --> 00:30:44,042 to the possibility that they saw a different airplane. 597 00:30:44,108 --> 00:30:46,644 But what plane exactly may never be known, 598 00:30:46,711 --> 00:30:50,348 even after factoring in the 16 reported sightings 599 00:30:50,415 --> 00:30:51,549 of other aircraft. 600 00:30:55,587 --> 00:31:00,758 The team concluded that the 16 witnesses 601 00:31:00,825 --> 00:31:06,264 could not really put an aircraft in that particular area 602 00:31:06,331 --> 00:31:08,633 at that particular time. 603 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,202 Investigators are at an impasse. 604 00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:12,503 Their visibility study tells them that the Cessna 605 00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:17,408 was technically visible for 170 seconds, 606 00:31:17,475 --> 00:31:19,811 nearly three full minutes. 607 00:31:19,877 --> 00:31:23,581 So why did the crew of the 727 lose sight of it? 608 00:31:23,648 --> 00:31:25,717 They go back to the cockpit recording. 609 00:31:25,783 --> 00:31:27,285 Three miles just north of the field, 610 00:31:27,352 --> 00:31:28,386 northeast bound. 611 00:31:28,453 --> 00:31:30,922 Cessna 172, climbing VFR at 1,400. 612 00:31:30,989 --> 00:31:33,324 Okay, stop tape. 613 00:31:33,391 --> 00:31:36,494 135 seconds to impact. 614 00:31:37,962 --> 00:31:40,999 This is when the controller first mentioned the Cessna. 615 00:31:41,065 --> 00:31:43,268 Okay, roll tape again. 616 00:31:45,203 --> 00:31:47,171 PSA 182. 617 00:31:47,238 --> 00:31:48,973 Two minutes before the collision, 618 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,243 the crew hears the Cessna's position being described, 619 00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:54,379 but they haven't spotted it yet. 620 00:31:54,445 --> 00:31:58,750 The silhouette of the Cessna would have been difficult 621 00:31:58,816 --> 00:32:00,285 as they were approximately the same altitude. 622 00:32:00,351 --> 00:32:03,187 They're going in the same direction. 623 00:32:03,254 --> 00:32:07,358 So one of the things that the human eye picks up is movement, 624 00:32:07,425 --> 00:32:09,661 and for a good part of the time, 625 00:32:09,727 --> 00:32:13,131 this is not moving in the windscreen. 626 00:32:13,197 --> 00:32:17,402 San Diego Op's, we're number two because we try harder. 627 00:32:19,904 --> 00:32:21,205 The Cessna has now been visible 628 00:32:21,272 --> 00:32:24,042 for nearly 80 seconds out of their window, 629 00:32:24,108 --> 00:32:26,444 but the crew has failed to see it. 630 00:32:26,511 --> 00:32:30,148 90 seconds to impact, they get another warning. 631 00:32:30,214 --> 00:32:34,719 And after we read and saw what the CVR said, 632 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,622 I feel that they were distracted in their conversation. 633 00:32:39,257 --> 00:32:41,159 Roll tape. 634 00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:45,830 PSA 182, traffic's at 12 o'clock, three miles out, 635 00:32:45,897 --> 00:32:48,800 1,700. 636 00:32:48,866 --> 00:32:51,602 Got it. 637 00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:53,204 Traffic in sight. 638 00:32:53,271 --> 00:32:54,806 Stop tape. 639 00:32:57,141 --> 00:32:59,377 85 seconds before impact, 640 00:32:59,444 --> 00:33:02,613 the 727's pilots spot the Cessna flying ahead of them. 641 00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:12,256 The crew is then instructed to use visual flight rules 642 00:33:12,323 --> 00:33:14,759 and contact the Lindbergh tower. 643 00:33:16,527 --> 00:33:19,430 Okay, sir, maintain visual separation. 644 00:33:19,497 --> 00:33:23,101 Contact Lindbergh tower, 133.3. 645 00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:24,168 Have a nice day. 646 00:33:24,235 --> 00:33:26,037 Okay. 647 00:33:26,104 --> 00:33:27,505 They saw it one second, 648 00:33:27,572 --> 00:33:29,340 and then they didn't see it another second. 649 00:33:29,407 --> 00:33:34,846 Was the conversation such that they looked away and missed it? 650 00:33:34,912 --> 00:33:36,180 The crew must now keep the Cessna in view 651 00:33:36,247 --> 00:33:39,684 while performing other tasks. 652 00:33:39,751 --> 00:33:42,754 The captain contacts the tower controller 653 00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:44,856 and prepares for landing. 654 00:33:44,922 --> 00:33:48,559 Lindbergh, PSA 182, downwind. 655 00:33:48,626 --> 00:33:50,528 The wings need to be configured 656 00:33:50,595 --> 00:33:52,797 with the proper slats and flap settings. 657 00:33:52,864 --> 00:33:54,265 The landing gear must be lowered. 658 00:33:54,332 --> 00:33:55,433 Systems have to be adjusted. 659 00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:58,302 All of these things are going on, 660 00:33:58,369 --> 00:34:03,875 so it's a busy place for three people in a 727. 661 00:34:03,941 --> 00:34:05,676 At this critical moment, 662 00:34:05,743 --> 00:34:09,113 no one is keeping an eye on the Cessna. 663 00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:13,017 PSA 182, traffic 664 00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:13,017 12 o'clock, one mile, a Cessna. 665 00:34:14,786 --> 00:34:16,487 Is that the one we're looking at? 666 00:34:16,554 --> 00:34:18,456 Yeah, but I don't see him now. 667 00:34:18,523 --> 00:34:23,461 The Cessna should be right here in front of them. 668 00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:25,563 The Cessna was visible 669 00:34:25,630 --> 00:34:30,301 just at about the windshield level of PSA, 670 00:34:30,368 --> 00:34:34,238 and it's really incredible, somehow they lost sight of it. 671 00:34:38,075 --> 00:34:39,377 Okay. 672 00:34:39,444 --> 00:34:42,513 Can you show me how you normally adjust your seat, please? 673 00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:44,048 But when investigators learn more 674 00:34:44,115 --> 00:34:47,552 about how PSA pilots adjust their seats, 675 00:34:47,618 --> 00:34:48,820 they begin to understand 676 00:34:48,886 --> 00:34:52,290 how the crew may have lost sight of the Cessna. 677 00:34:52,356 --> 00:34:55,560 That's it? You don't use your reference points? 678 00:34:55,626 --> 00:34:57,061 It's not a requirement 679 00:34:57,128 --> 00:35:00,932 to utilize the manufacturer's designed eye reference position. 680 00:35:00,998 --> 00:35:03,067 Investigators discover that many pilots 681 00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:06,504 adjust their seats to their own personal settings. 682 00:35:08,105 --> 00:35:09,974 Pilots come in all sizes and shapes. 683 00:35:10,041 --> 00:35:12,343 They learn quickly to adjust the seats 684 00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:15,213 to the position that's comfortable. 685 00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:16,814 Some pilots want to sit lower 686 00:35:16,881 --> 00:35:18,483 so they can see their instruments better. 687 00:35:21,018 --> 00:35:22,820 From this new seat position, 688 00:35:22,887 --> 00:35:26,457 the Cessna's location on the windshield is recalculated. 689 00:35:26,524 --> 00:35:29,126 The results show an important difference 690 00:35:29,193 --> 00:35:31,095 between the two seat settings. 691 00:35:31,162 --> 00:35:33,097 With the new setting, 692 00:35:33,164 --> 00:35:34,699 the crew would have had the Cessna in view 693 00:35:34,765 --> 00:35:38,002 for only 5 to 10 seconds, 694 00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:40,004 not a few minutes. 695 00:35:43,508 --> 00:35:44,842 Five seconds. 696 00:35:44,909 --> 00:35:46,110 That's all. 697 00:35:46,177 --> 00:35:48,980 The position of the Cessna was down below the nose 698 00:35:49,046 --> 00:35:50,348 or the reference that the pilots could see. 699 00:35:50,414 --> 00:35:53,184 If they had moved their heads up, 700 00:35:53,251 --> 00:35:55,653 the Cessna was still visible, 701 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:58,356 but otherwise, it was below the windscreen. 702 00:35:58,422 --> 00:36:01,192 Okay, let's play "find the Cessna". 703 00:36:01,259 --> 00:36:04,929 But even assuming that the crew did lean forward, 704 00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:07,698 investigators now realize they would face other problems 705 00:36:07,765 --> 00:36:10,835 in spotting the Cessna. 706 00:36:10,902 --> 00:36:13,237 It's almost camouflaged. 707 00:36:14,805 --> 00:36:16,240 They become harder to see, 708 00:36:16,307 --> 00:36:18,976 and the terrain makes it even more so, 709 00:36:19,043 --> 00:36:22,213 because you have white roofs, you have dark roofs, 710 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,916 you have roads, you have lakes, 711 00:36:24,982 --> 00:36:27,718 you have trees, so that the background changes, 712 00:36:27,785 --> 00:36:31,222 and the aircraft will move across this background. 713 00:36:31,289 --> 00:36:32,957 Is that the one we're looking at? 714 00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:36,661 Yeah, but I don't see him now. 715 00:36:36,727 --> 00:36:39,730 The Cessna is now flying too close to the 727 716 00:36:39,797 --> 00:36:42,400 to be viewed without leaning forward, 717 00:36:42,466 --> 00:36:43,935 and it's viewed against a backdrop 718 00:36:44,001 --> 00:36:46,103 that makes it hard to recognize. 719 00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:49,140 PSA 182, cleared to land. 720 00:36:49,206 --> 00:36:51,208 182 is cleared to land. 721 00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:54,712 A collision is now imminent, 722 00:36:54,779 --> 00:36:58,549 and the six men involved in preventing it are oblivious. 723 00:36:58,616 --> 00:37:02,286 The Cessna pilot can't see out his window. 724 00:37:02,353 --> 00:37:06,223 His instructor has failed to 725 00:37:02,353 --> 00:37:06,223 notice the plane is off course. 726 00:37:06,290 --> 00:37:09,927 The 727's crew has the Cessna in a blind spot, 727 00:37:09,994 --> 00:37:13,364 but both controllers assume the crew can see the Cessna 728 00:37:13,431 --> 00:37:15,099 and will avoid it. 729 00:37:17,168 --> 00:37:19,403 There's only one thing that can stop this accident 730 00:37:19,470 --> 00:37:23,774 from happening, and 144 lives depend on it. 731 00:37:23,841 --> 00:37:26,577 The PSA captain should have made the suggestion 732 00:37:26,644 --> 00:37:28,579 to the tower, "I don't see him anymore". 733 00:37:28,646 --> 00:37:31,349 Captain Mcferon will talk to the tower 734 00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:33,351 about the Cessna, 735 00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:37,755 but a misunderstanding over a single word will prove deadly. 736 00:37:39,790 --> 00:37:43,995 The two planes are 70 seconds from colliding over San Diego. 737 00:37:47,798 --> 00:37:52,803 PSA 182, traffic 12 o'clock, one mile, a Cessna. 738 00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:54,572 Flaps five. 739 00:37:58,409 --> 00:38:00,745 Is that the one we're looking for? 740 00:38:00,811 --> 00:38:04,148 Yeah, but I don't see him now. 741 00:38:04,215 --> 00:38:06,651 The fate of flight 182 now depends 742 00:38:06,717 --> 00:38:10,821 on the captain clearly communicating this to the tower. 743 00:38:10,888 --> 00:38:13,724 Okay, we had him there a minute ago. 744 00:38:13,791 --> 00:38:16,093 But the captain is not clear. 745 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,863 182, roger. 746 00:38:18,929 --> 00:38:19,797 And the controller assumes 747 00:38:19,864 --> 00:38:22,900 the Cessna is still in sight. 748 00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:26,270 When the PSA crew lost visual contact, 749 00:38:26,337 --> 00:38:28,839 they were responsible to tell the air traffic controller, 750 00:38:28,906 --> 00:38:30,875 "I no longer see the Cessna". 751 00:38:30,941 --> 00:38:32,710 Still uncertain about the Cessna's location, 752 00:38:32,777 --> 00:38:36,113 once again, the captain tries to explain his situation 753 00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:37,415 to the tower. 754 00:38:37,481 --> 00:38:39,950 I think he's passed off to our right. 755 00:38:40,017 --> 00:38:41,986 The comment that the captain makes indicates 756 00:38:42,053 --> 00:38:44,789 that they're not sure, 757 00:38:44,855 --> 00:38:47,858 that they don't have him in sight at that moment. 758 00:38:47,925 --> 00:38:50,327 The controller could force the PSA flight 759 00:38:50,394 --> 00:38:53,731 or the Cessna to change course, but he does nothing. 760 00:38:53,798 --> 00:38:56,667 It's very difficult to determine 761 00:38:56,734 --> 00:39:00,204 what that exchange between the air traffic controller and PSA 762 00:39:00,271 --> 00:39:02,606 meant to each of the pilots. 763 00:39:02,673 --> 00:39:04,442 The captain made the comment... 764 00:39:04,508 --> 00:39:06,944 I think he's passed off to our right. 765 00:39:07,011 --> 00:39:08,312 Indicating that he wasn't 100% sure, 766 00:39:08,379 --> 00:39:10,481 but the air traffic controller heard it 767 00:39:10,548 --> 00:39:12,850 as a declarative statement and answered... 768 00:39:12,917 --> 00:39:14,351 Yeah. 769 00:39:14,418 --> 00:39:17,455 What that meant to the PSA crew, I'm not sure we'll ever know. 770 00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:19,790 He was right over here a minute ago. 771 00:39:19,857 --> 00:39:21,158 Yeah. 772 00:39:21,225 --> 00:39:24,895 But they were satisfied with the situation enough 773 00:39:24,962 --> 00:39:26,530 that they continued the approach, 774 00:39:26,597 --> 00:39:28,365 and the air traffic controller was satisfied 775 00:39:28,432 --> 00:39:29,934 with the situation enough 776 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,170 that he did not make any further comments about it. 777 00:39:33,237 --> 00:39:34,405 Okay, we have... 778 00:39:34,472 --> 00:39:35,606 Investigators want to know why 779 00:39:35,673 --> 00:39:38,275 the controller took no action. 780 00:39:38,342 --> 00:39:41,112 They compare two separate recordings of the conversation 781 00:39:41,178 --> 00:39:43,514 between the captain and the controller. 782 00:39:43,581 --> 00:39:46,917 Okay, Chris, let's hear the cockpit first. 783 00:39:46,984 --> 00:39:49,153 I think he's passed off to our right. 784 00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:51,255 "Passed". I thought I heard "passing" before. 785 00:39:51,322 --> 00:39:52,456 Double check that, please. 786 00:39:58,262 --> 00:39:59,864 I think he's passed off to our right. 787 00:39:59,930 --> 00:40:01,398 He's still saying "passed". 788 00:40:01,465 --> 00:40:02,700 Let's compare it with the tower, 789 00:40:02,767 --> 00:40:04,468 'cause I think I heard "passing". 790 00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:09,573 They make a startling discovery. 791 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,042 I think he's passing off to our right. 792 00:40:12,109 --> 00:40:12,977 Passing. 793 00:40:13,043 --> 00:40:15,546 I was right. 794 00:40:15,613 --> 00:40:19,016 It does sound like "passing". 795 00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:20,985 But due to radio static, 796 00:40:21,051 --> 00:40:24,722 the controller heard the word "passing", not "passed". 797 00:40:24,789 --> 00:40:29,393 The difference may have sealed the fate of flight 182. 798 00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:33,564 Passing. Big difference. 799 00:40:38,803 --> 00:40:40,237 The recordings reveal that 800 00:40:40,304 --> 00:40:44,408 while the pilot of PSA 182 said one thing, 801 00:40:44,475 --> 00:40:48,112 the Lindbergh tower controller heard something else. 802 00:40:48,179 --> 00:40:49,880 I think he's passing off to our right. 803 00:40:49,947 --> 00:40:52,016 Yeah. 804 00:40:52,082 --> 00:40:53,217 Now investigators understand why 805 00:40:53,284 --> 00:40:56,353 the controller took no action. 806 00:40:56,420 --> 00:41:00,724 If he had heard the words "he's passed off to our right", 807 00:41:00,791 --> 00:41:01,625 he would have seen from his radar 808 00:41:01,692 --> 00:41:04,395 that the pilot was mistaken 809 00:41:04,461 --> 00:41:09,333 and that the 727 had not actually passed the Cessna. 810 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,202 The air traffic controller heard it 811 00:41:11,268 --> 00:41:12,870 as "he's passing off to our right". 812 00:41:12,937 --> 00:41:16,774 That indicated that they still had visual contact with it. 813 00:41:16,841 --> 00:41:17,875 He would believe that the pilot 814 00:41:17,942 --> 00:41:20,377 was being able to maintain the separation. 815 00:41:20,444 --> 00:41:23,480 It was his responsibility, and you would not worry about it. 816 00:41:26,483 --> 00:41:28,652 In the spring of 1979, 817 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,823 investigators finally conclude who is at fault. 818 00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:37,928 The determination of the board's report is very clear 819 00:41:37,995 --> 00:41:41,899 that the crew obviously did not see the aircraft, 820 00:41:41,966 --> 00:41:43,701 the Cessna, 821 00:41:43,767 --> 00:41:46,670 in time to divert it away 822 00:41:46,737 --> 00:41:50,441 from a catastrophic accident. 823 00:41:50,507 --> 00:41:55,112 The PSA crew, when they lost visual contact, 824 00:41:55,179 --> 00:41:57,381 is responsible to tell the air traffic controller, 825 00:41:57,448 --> 00:42:01,018 "I no longer see the Cessna", and that they did not do. 826 00:42:03,053 --> 00:42:04,488 The Cessna pilot is also mentioned 827 00:42:04,555 --> 00:42:08,659 as a factor for changing course 828 00:42:04,555 --> 00:42:08,659 without notifying the tower. 829 00:42:10,527 --> 00:42:13,530 Both controllers are criticized for not following protocol 830 00:42:13,597 --> 00:42:17,635 and giving the 727's crew the specific heading of the Cessna. 831 00:42:27,444 --> 00:42:30,547 Thinking back to the day, 832 00:42:30,614 --> 00:42:33,484 there's just a tremendous sadness that comes to mind. 833 00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:35,452 You know that accidents happen, 834 00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:37,021 but you think this was an accident 835 00:42:37,087 --> 00:42:41,525 that could have been prevented, but it wasn't. 836 00:42:45,729 --> 00:42:47,464 Recommendations in the report focus on 837 00:42:47,531 --> 00:42:50,534 improving the air traffic control system 838 00:42:50,601 --> 00:42:52,603 at Lindbergh field. 839 00:42:57,675 --> 00:42:59,410 They changed procedures after this. 840 00:42:59,476 --> 00:43:01,946 They put in a terminal control area, 841 00:43:02,012 --> 00:43:03,414 and there was a great deal of restriction on 842 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,684 what kind of traffic could go through and at what altitudes, 843 00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:08,752 so a great many different restrictions 844 00:43:08,819 --> 00:43:11,956 to make it a safer operation were put into place at Lindbergh 845 00:43:12,022 --> 00:43:13,457 after this accident. 846 00:43:13,524 --> 00:43:18,662 We're out of Los Angeles, San Diego at 0905. 847 00:43:18,729 --> 00:43:21,699 PSA 182, roger. 848 00:43:21,765 --> 00:43:22,499 I just called my off report. 849 00:43:22,566 --> 00:43:24,101 The guy started laughing. 850 00:43:25,369 --> 00:43:27,538 Make it up by reporting our next takeoff now. 851 00:43:27,604 --> 00:43:31,809 There's another legacy of PSA 182... 852 00:43:31,875 --> 00:43:34,211 New rules governing all conversations in the cockpit 853 00:43:34,278 --> 00:43:37,681 when flying below 10,000 feet. 854 00:43:38,949 --> 00:43:42,019 Today's regulation requires that 855 00:43:42,086 --> 00:43:44,788 you concentrate your conversation exclusively 856 00:43:44,855 --> 00:43:46,323 to the operation of the airplane. 857 00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:50,127 At the time of the PSA 182 accident, 858 00:43:50,194 --> 00:43:53,797 the...that regulation was not in effect. 859 00:43:53,864 --> 00:43:56,867 PSA 182 also helped push the FAA 860 00:43:56,934 --> 00:43:59,470 in the search for new technology. 861 00:43:59,536 --> 00:44:03,440 Three years after the accident, in 1981, 862 00:44:03,507 --> 00:44:05,709 a safety device called TCAS, 863 00:44:05,776 --> 00:44:07,811 or traffic collision avoidance system, 864 00:44:07,878 --> 00:44:10,147 was put into development. 865 00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:14,018 Now installed in all passenger aircraft, 866 00:44:14,084 --> 00:44:17,454 the system warns pilots when another plane comes too close. 867 00:44:21,792 --> 00:44:23,460 TCAS was a god bless. 868 00:44:23,527 --> 00:44:26,397 We now can put it on our transponders 869 00:44:26,463 --> 00:44:30,768 and we can see or hear what's going on 870 00:44:30,834 --> 00:44:34,772 or be told what's going on with aircraft around us. 871 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,044 We have come in big leaps 872 00:44:40,110 --> 00:44:42,646 to make aviation safer 873 00:44:42,713 --> 00:44:44,581 for people to fly and feel comfortable 874 00:44:44,648 --> 00:44:47,885 that their airplane is gonna get where they want to go. 66875

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