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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,894 --> 00:00:22,063 Faye Dunaway: Can we shoot? 2 00:00:23,273 --> 00:00:26,067 We need to shoot! I'm here now, come on! 3 00:00:27,610 --> 00:00:29,946 I really would like to shoot. I really-- I'm sitting here, 4 00:00:29,946 --> 00:00:32,532 - I really would like to shoot. - Laurent Bouzereau: Yes, we are. 5 00:00:33,825 --> 00:00:36,327 - Okay. Uh, 6 00:00:36,327 --> 00:00:38,163 - you tell me when you're ready, Faye. - Ready. 7 00:00:38,163 --> 00:00:39,622 - Are we rolling? 8 00:00:39,622 --> 00:00:41,207 We're rolling. 9 00:00:41,207 --> 00:00:43,126 Here's the amazing thing. 10 00:00:43,126 --> 00:00:46,755 Today is March 29th. 11 00:00:46,755 --> 00:00:51,426 Now, on March 29, 1977, 12 00:00:51,426 --> 00:00:55,513 - you took this picture. - Oh, wow. 13 00:00:55,513 --> 00:00:57,140 Yeah. 14 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:58,850 Show the picture to camera. 15 00:01:02,437 --> 00:01:04,939 It's exactly 45 years ago. 16 00:01:04,939 --> 00:01:07,400 Wow. It's an awfully long time. 17 00:01:08,109 --> 00:01:10,195 When you look at this picture today, 18 00:01:10,195 --> 00:01:11,863 what do you see? 19 00:01:11,863 --> 00:01:13,281 Well, I remember the moment. 20 00:01:13,281 --> 00:01:17,285 I had won the Oscar for "Network" the night before, 21 00:01:17,285 --> 00:01:19,871 and closer to 5 o'clock, 22 00:01:19,871 --> 00:01:22,248 Terry O'Neill tried to persuade me 23 00:01:22,248 --> 00:01:25,377 to come to the pool at dawn when the sun came up 24 00:01:25,377 --> 00:01:28,797 because he didn't want a traditional kind of picture 25 00:01:28,797 --> 00:01:31,758 with the actress standing with the Oscar and that. 26 00:01:31,758 --> 00:01:33,093 But he staged this. 27 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:34,552 What I loved is that, 28 00:01:34,552 --> 00:01:38,306 "Is that all there is?" was kind of the theme to it. 29 00:01:38,306 --> 00:01:41,393 Because at my feet are all of the morning newspapers 30 00:01:41,393 --> 00:01:45,397 announcing the wins and also a posthumous Peter Finch Oscar 31 00:01:45,397 --> 00:01:48,316 because he passed away three months earlier. 32 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:52,237 So, it was bittersweet and this is a classic place, 33 00:01:52,237 --> 00:01:55,198 Beverly Hills Hotel and swimming pool. 34 00:01:55,198 --> 00:01:57,784 So anyway, it was an amazing night. 35 00:01:57,784 --> 00:01:59,327 It was really crazy. 36 00:01:59,327 --> 00:02:02,080 Very, very, um, memorable. 37 00:02:19,222 --> 00:02:20,849 Do you know me? 38 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:24,436 Well, uh, 39 00:02:24,436 --> 00:02:26,980 I think I would've remembered. 40 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:28,773 Have we ever met? 41 00:02:28,773 --> 00:02:31,276 Faye Dunaway in one word... 42 00:02:31,276 --> 00:02:33,194 "un-dismissible." 43 00:02:33,194 --> 00:02:35,113 Well, I'm Miss Bonnie Parker, 44 00:02:35,113 --> 00:02:37,615 and this here is Mr. Clyde Barrow. 45 00:02:37,615 --> 00:02:39,826 We rob banks. 46 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:42,871 Faye's a legend, an inspiration, 47 00:02:42,871 --> 00:02:46,041 a force of nature, 48 00:02:46,041 --> 00:02:48,335 a literal 49 00:02:48,335 --> 00:02:50,962 and absolute genius 50 00:02:50,962 --> 00:02:53,340 of an acting artist. 51 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:55,967 And Faye is my chum. 52 00:02:55,967 --> 00:02:59,888 It's a funny, dirty, little job. 53 00:02:59,888 --> 00:03:01,306 Alchemy. 54 00:03:01,306 --> 00:03:05,268 It's the relationship between a lens and a face. 55 00:03:05,769 --> 00:03:08,021 You can't pigeonhole her as a movie star. 56 00:03:08,021 --> 00:03:09,481 You see a Faye Dunaway movie, 57 00:03:09,481 --> 00:03:11,274 and you see something completely different. 58 00:03:11,274 --> 00:03:14,235 You don't see Faye Dunaway. You see Bonnie Parker. 59 00:03:14,235 --> 00:03:16,321 You see Laura Mars. 60 00:03:16,321 --> 00:03:20,158 You see Wanda Wilcox. You see Joan Crawford. 61 00:03:20,158 --> 00:03:23,161 Hollywood royalty. 62 00:03:23,161 --> 00:03:24,746 Mesmerizing. 63 00:03:24,746 --> 00:03:26,956 You know, it's very rare that you get somebody 64 00:03:26,956 --> 00:03:30,835 who's so striking-looking that's got acting chops. 65 00:03:30,835 --> 00:03:34,130 And she had a confidence because Faye knew she could bring it. 66 00:03:34,130 --> 00:03:35,799 - I'm scared! - So am I! 67 00:03:35,799 --> 00:03:38,009 - What are you scared for? You've got the gun! - Yes! 68 00:03:38,343 --> 00:03:42,055 Liam Dunaway O'Neill: My mom is a very strong woman, 69 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:43,848 and I think that's one of the reasons 70 00:03:43,848 --> 00:03:46,685 why she was so good at acting 71 00:03:46,685 --> 00:03:50,397 is because she would keep her emotions inside. 72 00:03:50,397 --> 00:03:54,067 And then when she had to act a scene, she would let it out. 73 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:55,527 I told him, Lou! 74 00:03:55,527 --> 00:03:57,237 I've been telling him every day for a week! 75 00:03:57,237 --> 00:03:59,823 I am sick of telling him! Now, you tell him! 76 00:03:59,823 --> 00:04:01,658 -If you go back 77 00:04:01,658 --> 00:04:03,868 and you watch all of my mom's movies, 78 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:07,330 I think she's all of her characters in one, 79 00:04:07,330 --> 00:04:09,916 in real life because she put a little bit of herself 80 00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:11,710 into every character, 81 00:04:11,710 --> 00:04:14,421 and she put a little bit of her character into herself. 82 00:04:14,421 --> 00:04:16,423 I was never arrogant that way. 83 00:04:16,423 --> 00:04:19,342 I knew I needed a look, and I got one. 84 00:04:19,551 --> 00:04:22,137 Faye Dunaway in one word? 85 00:04:22,137 --> 00:04:24,055 Complicated. 86 00:04:24,055 --> 00:04:27,017 Johnny Carson: Who's one of the worst people you know in Hollywood? 87 00:04:27,017 --> 00:04:28,435 Bette Davis: That I worked with? 88 00:04:28,435 --> 00:04:30,353 Or that you wouldn't wanna work with again. If-- 89 00:04:30,353 --> 00:04:33,148 One million dollars, Faye Dunaway. 90 00:04:34,607 --> 00:04:36,818 Everybody you can put into this chair 91 00:04:36,818 --> 00:04:39,112 - will tell you exactly the same thing. 92 00:04:39,112 --> 00:04:41,197 Robin Morgan: You will read people 93 00:04:41,197 --> 00:04:43,324 with their superficial comments about Faye. 94 00:04:43,324 --> 00:04:47,328 She's volatile, she's difficult, temperamental, 95 00:04:47,328 --> 00:04:49,414 aggressive. Yeah, well, 96 00:04:49,414 --> 00:04:51,541 that's also true. 97 00:04:51,541 --> 00:04:53,460 But she's equally fastidious, 98 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:55,128 caring, deeply caring, 99 00:04:55,128 --> 00:04:57,213 and she has an eye 100 00:04:57,213 --> 00:05:01,176 and a temperament for detail that I think tips that balance 101 00:05:01,176 --> 00:05:03,178 into what people call difficult. 102 00:05:03,178 --> 00:05:07,098 And I think before you start to make superficial judgments 103 00:05:07,098 --> 00:05:08,433 about someone like Faye, 104 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:11,603 you have to look deeper at the artist. 105 00:05:15,231 --> 00:05:17,275 This is the worst seat in the world. 106 00:05:17,275 --> 00:05:19,235 I'm not happy with anything here. 107 00:05:19,235 --> 00:05:20,403 I wanna sit at an angle. 108 00:05:20,403 --> 00:05:22,447 I don't wanna sit straight on. 109 00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:24,783 So the shoulders are there? Does that look better, darling, 110 00:05:24,783 --> 00:05:26,910 - or shall I come straight like that? -No, looks nice. 111 00:05:26,910 --> 00:05:30,455 It's the work, you know? It takes what it takes. 112 00:05:30,455 --> 00:05:33,416 People think it's simple and, "Oh, this and that. Be real." 113 00:05:33,416 --> 00:05:35,377 But there's so many details. 114 00:05:35,377 --> 00:05:38,296 I do a makeup, and I do a hair. 115 00:05:38,296 --> 00:05:40,215 You know, you have to get there early enough 116 00:05:40,215 --> 00:05:43,134 till you have the exact time. So, if you get there there, 117 00:05:43,134 --> 00:05:45,428 and you don't have the time, you're nervous and frantic. 118 00:05:45,428 --> 00:05:48,515 If you come early you have your preparation, 119 00:05:48,515 --> 00:05:51,142 you have an organization. It's just a lot of stuff 120 00:05:51,142 --> 00:05:53,561 that has to fit together like a puzzle. 121 00:05:53,561 --> 00:05:56,106 I need a glass of water, not a bottle! 122 00:05:56,106 --> 00:05:57,565 speaker: Got it. Hold on. 123 00:05:57,565 --> 00:05:59,651 And it's supposed to liberate you. 124 00:05:59,651 --> 00:06:02,779 And it's difficult because it's tense, all of it. 125 00:06:02,779 --> 00:06:05,323 -Alright, Faye, put down the book. - speaker: Put down the book. 126 00:06:05,323 --> 00:06:06,533 In a minute! 127 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:09,744 - So, now you see what it is 128 00:06:09,744 --> 00:06:11,705 about me. 129 00:06:12,288 --> 00:06:13,498 Not easy. 130 00:06:13,498 --> 00:06:17,002 It's not easy, but it gets the results. 131 00:06:17,002 --> 00:06:18,837 We'll see, we'll see. 132 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:22,007 I just seem to always have wanted to be an actress, 133 00:06:22,007 --> 00:06:24,426 or I always knew that that's what I wanted to pursue anyway, 134 00:06:24,426 --> 00:06:26,428 you know, from a very early age in the South 135 00:06:26,428 --> 00:06:29,431 when I was 5, 6 years old. And I'd always grown up 136 00:06:29,431 --> 00:06:31,474 feeling that I could achieve 137 00:06:31,474 --> 00:06:33,518 what I wanted to achieve if I worked hard enough. 138 00:06:33,518 --> 00:06:36,312 I mean that is, in fact, the American dream, isn't it? 139 00:06:41,192 --> 00:06:44,195 I was born Dorothy Faye Dunaway 140 00:06:44,195 --> 00:06:47,866 on January 14, 1941. 141 00:06:47,866 --> 00:06:50,201 Dorothy Faye is the little girl with brown hair 142 00:06:50,201 --> 00:06:53,747 who stood in the middle of a dirt road in Bascom, Florida 143 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:56,082 and played hopscotch and mother-may-I. 144 00:06:56,082 --> 00:06:59,627 But I haven't been Dorothy Faye for a long time. 145 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:03,423 She might've been written out of the script. 146 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:06,593 We hope not, right? She hasn't been. 147 00:07:06,593 --> 00:07:07,927 She's very important to me, 148 00:07:07,927 --> 00:07:10,096 and that's who I wanna go back to sometimes. 149 00:07:10,096 --> 00:07:14,017 But, Faye is someone that perhaps I have created. 150 00:07:14,768 --> 00:07:18,646 It's a persona that is related very much to my work. 151 00:07:18,646 --> 00:07:21,733 It's specific to my career. 152 00:07:21,733 --> 00:07:24,319 That's the actress, I suppose. 153 00:07:25,028 --> 00:07:28,198 And Dorothy Faye is that little girl from the South. 154 00:07:28,198 --> 00:07:30,241 That still is a deep part of me, 155 00:07:30,241 --> 00:07:32,035 and I have to stay close to 156 00:07:32,035 --> 00:07:35,121 because she's, you know, integral to who I am. 157 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,251 My mother and my father, 158 00:07:40,251 --> 00:07:41,753 they were young when they married, 159 00:07:41,753 --> 00:07:45,465 and I don't think they had a very good relationship 160 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:49,052 because he had the disease of alcoholism. 161 00:07:49,052 --> 00:07:50,595 True, serious illness, 162 00:07:50,595 --> 00:07:52,514 and he wasn't bringing money home. 163 00:07:52,514 --> 00:07:54,641 He might've been drinking too much even then. 164 00:07:54,641 --> 00:07:57,435 So, my mother sent a letter to the War Department, 165 00:07:57,435 --> 00:08:00,480 asking them to draft my father, and they did. 166 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,691 He was a cook. He worked in the kitchen. 167 00:08:02,691 --> 00:08:04,651 And they sent the check to her every month, 168 00:08:04,651 --> 00:08:07,904 and we were able to pay off bills and pay off the house. 169 00:08:07,904 --> 00:08:12,617 But, my mother had a great sense of doing things right 170 00:08:12,617 --> 00:08:14,035 and also taking things into her own hands 171 00:08:14,035 --> 00:08:15,787 when they didn't work. That's what I learned 172 00:08:15,787 --> 00:08:18,415 by being with her and seeing how she operated. 173 00:08:18,415 --> 00:08:20,667 And that's what it takes to make things work. 174 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:24,129 My mom was very close to Grace, 175 00:08:24,379 --> 00:08:28,800 and we would go to her little farm in South Carolina, 176 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,886 and my mom was always trying to, like, take care of her. 177 00:08:32,137 --> 00:08:33,805 I've always been close with her. 178 00:08:33,805 --> 00:08:36,641 I mean, she taught me everything. 179 00:08:36,641 --> 00:08:39,644 She had backbone, and she fought very hard 180 00:08:39,644 --> 00:08:42,355 in a very difficult life with very little money, 181 00:08:42,355 --> 00:08:44,482 and difficulties with my father. 182 00:08:44,482 --> 00:08:47,110 And my mother always wanted more. 183 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:49,946 So, she taught me to achieve. 184 00:08:49,946 --> 00:08:52,741 She taught me to do the best, to get straight A's, 185 00:08:52,741 --> 00:08:54,701 to work hard, no matter what. 186 00:08:54,701 --> 00:08:56,411 And I'm glad that she did. 187 00:08:56,411 --> 00:08:58,163 But it was also pretty demanding. 188 00:08:58,163 --> 00:09:00,915 I was trained to be the best, and I was. 189 00:09:00,915 --> 00:09:02,542 I got some-- an idea in my mind, 190 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:05,086 and I was gonna try to achieve it. That's my mother. 191 00:09:06,254 --> 00:09:09,841 - We'll start with that guy. - Oh Lord. 192 00:09:09,841 --> 00:09:13,845 Well, this is me and my beloved brother, Mac, 193 00:09:13,845 --> 00:09:16,556 the sweetest boy in the world, except for Liam. 194 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:17,891 I always thought he was so sweet, 195 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:21,269 and I was such a kind of go-getter, after my mother, 196 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:24,356 that I felt guilty and I felt I wish I were more like him. 197 00:09:25,857 --> 00:09:29,486 My brother, his name was Mac Simmion Dunaway, 198 00:09:29,486 --> 00:09:31,279 and he's younger than me, two years younger, 199 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:34,074 and he was, I thought, a lot sweeter than me. 200 00:09:34,074 --> 00:09:35,283 But I envied that. 201 00:09:35,283 --> 00:09:38,203 I envied that he was so lovely and charming and sweet. 202 00:09:39,037 --> 00:09:42,123 I was with him at his bedside just before he passed, 203 00:09:42,123 --> 00:09:44,959 which I'm happy about. I'm glad that I was there. 204 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:47,837 He just had contracted some kind of illness 205 00:09:47,837 --> 00:09:50,423 without us really expecting it. 206 00:09:50,423 --> 00:09:51,966 Heartbreaking that we lost him. 207 00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:54,678 He was a wonderful man, had a great life. 208 00:09:56,513 --> 00:09:58,264 This one was interesting, I think, 209 00:09:58,264 --> 00:09:59,557 'cause I'd never seen it before, 210 00:09:59,557 --> 00:10:01,643 and there's no time or date or anything like that-- 211 00:10:01,643 --> 00:10:03,144 Absolutely, that is what it is. It's Mannheim, Germany. 212 00:10:03,144 --> 00:10:05,939 It's when my father was stationed in Germany, 213 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:08,650 and we were outside one of the parks there. 214 00:10:08,650 --> 00:10:10,694 And my brother and my father 215 00:10:10,694 --> 00:10:12,654 are standing exactly the same way. 216 00:10:12,654 --> 00:10:14,906 You can see. Sweet. Very sweet. 217 00:10:14,906 --> 00:10:16,574 He was stationed there in the Army, 218 00:10:16,574 --> 00:10:19,244 and we spent two years there. 219 00:10:19,244 --> 00:10:22,747 The time pattern of my life was established very early 220 00:10:22,747 --> 00:10:26,084 when we began to travel with my father in the Army. 221 00:10:26,084 --> 00:10:28,670 Every two years, he was transferred somewhere else, 222 00:10:28,670 --> 00:10:31,423 and we went from Florida 223 00:10:31,423 --> 00:10:35,051 to Arkansas and Texas, 224 00:10:35,051 --> 00:10:36,344 and then to Germany, 225 00:10:36,344 --> 00:10:39,723 and back to Utah which is dreary and very arid. 226 00:10:39,723 --> 00:10:43,268 And it was a rhythm that was not pleasant sometimes. 227 00:10:43,268 --> 00:10:45,812 It was painful because you had to pick up and leave friends 228 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:47,147 and people that you loved and knew, 229 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:49,691 and there was no kind of holding on. 230 00:10:49,691 --> 00:10:51,526 No kind of... It was... 231 00:10:51,526 --> 00:10:54,112 I don't think it's good to do that 232 00:10:54,112 --> 00:10:55,822 but, I mean, I liked it at the time, 233 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:57,449 mostly because there was something new, 234 00:10:57,449 --> 00:10:58,658 and I was always curious, 235 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:00,285 and I always wanted to see new places. 236 00:11:00,285 --> 00:11:03,455 But it was a mixture. It was both bad and good. 237 00:11:03,455 --> 00:11:05,623 I'm interested to know at what point you got interested 238 00:11:05,623 --> 00:11:08,710 in acting, and decided, or had a vague decision, 239 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:12,881 - at least, to be an actress. - I, I can always remember, you say, a very vague, 240 00:11:12,881 --> 00:11:16,259 a-an unspoken kind of leaning towards it. 241 00:11:16,259 --> 00:11:18,094 I always did plays. I always played games 242 00:11:18,094 --> 00:11:20,638 where I was acting or dressing up and things like that. 243 00:11:20,638 --> 00:11:22,891 There was neighborhood playhouses, 244 00:11:22,891 --> 00:11:24,642 and I auditioned when I was 13 245 00:11:24,642 --> 00:11:26,895 for the part of Nurse Kelly in "Harvey." 246 00:11:26,895 --> 00:11:29,439 And I played that in this neighborhood playhouse 247 00:11:29,439 --> 00:11:31,649 in Dugway Proving Ground, Utah, 248 00:11:31,649 --> 00:11:33,985 which was an Army base where my father was. 249 00:11:33,985 --> 00:11:37,030 That was something I did because I was interested in that. 250 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:38,615 I was always interested in that, 251 00:11:38,615 --> 00:11:41,534 but that was parallel to my family experience, 252 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:42,702 which was painful. 253 00:11:43,244 --> 00:11:45,747 The marriage had crumbled. It was falling apart, 254 00:11:45,747 --> 00:11:49,751 and the acting was a way to escape from the difficulties 255 00:11:49,751 --> 00:11:52,879 that existed in my family life, in my home life. 256 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:55,173 I mean, it was hurting us as well, the children, 257 00:11:55,173 --> 00:11:58,968 so my mother wanted a divorce, and we went back to Florida. 258 00:11:58,968 --> 00:12:01,054 Pierre Berton: Did you have a happy childhood or an unhappy one? 259 00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:04,140 - I read a bit about it-- - Both, really. Not-Not terribly. 260 00:12:04,140 --> 00:12:05,809 It was, um, it was-- 261 00:12:05,809 --> 00:12:07,894 Well, there was a divorce in the family when I was older, 262 00:12:07,894 --> 00:12:10,689 but the childhood itself was, was, um, 263 00:12:10,689 --> 00:12:12,941 not particularly unhappy. 264 00:12:12,941 --> 00:12:15,110 I remember that my relationship with my mother, for example, 265 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:18,863 was very close, you know? It was not until really my teens 266 00:12:18,863 --> 00:12:20,073 that there was the divorce, 267 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:21,533 and that certainly is an adjustment 268 00:12:21,533 --> 00:12:24,828 because that is difficult emotionally, and I imagine, 269 00:12:24,828 --> 00:12:28,373 financially, it was a bit less of an easy life. 270 00:12:28,373 --> 00:12:30,000 We lived in Tallahassee, 271 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,210 and I went to Leon High School. 272 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:35,005 Tried out to be a cheerleader, became a cheerleader. 273 00:12:35,005 --> 00:12:37,215 There was a drama club as well, 274 00:12:37,215 --> 00:12:41,219 and I had a couple of roles in the productions there. 275 00:12:41,219 --> 00:12:42,762 After I graduated, 276 00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:45,432 I went to Florida State University for one year, 277 00:12:45,432 --> 00:12:47,308 and then I transferred to the University of Florida 278 00:12:47,308 --> 00:12:49,644 because I had a boyfriend who was there. 279 00:12:50,145 --> 00:12:54,149 But winning a beauty contest was de rigueur in the South. 280 00:12:54,149 --> 00:12:56,317 This is a very important thing. You had to win one. 281 00:12:56,317 --> 00:12:57,485 You had to win one. 282 00:12:57,485 --> 00:12:59,279 And I tried a number of times, 283 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:01,406 and I was always runner-up to May Queen, 284 00:13:01,406 --> 00:13:04,409 six votes that I didn't get, that someone else got. 285 00:13:04,409 --> 00:13:07,912 And then, when I finally became Sweetheart of Sigma Chi, 286 00:13:07,912 --> 00:13:10,331 my darling boyfriend at that time, 287 00:13:10,331 --> 00:13:12,917 Eugene Page, who's no longer with us, unfortunately, 288 00:13:12,917 --> 00:13:15,754 he was part of this, 289 00:13:15,754 --> 00:13:17,839 and when I won that, I thought, that's it. 290 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,090 I've done it now. 291 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:20,717 And in spite of the fact that 292 00:13:20,717 --> 00:13:22,177 Gene and I were very close, 293 00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:24,262 I had to go and live my life. 294 00:13:24,262 --> 00:13:26,723 I had to go and do what I wanted to do, 295 00:13:26,723 --> 00:13:28,391 to be an actress. And so, 296 00:13:28,391 --> 00:13:30,977 I then researched and found a school 297 00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:33,271 that was interesting because it was Boston University, 298 00:13:33,271 --> 00:13:37,150 and it had visiting directors from the New York stage. 299 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:40,779 So I got accepted, and I went to Boston University 300 00:13:40,779 --> 00:13:43,281 just after I became Sweetheart of Sigma Chi. 301 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,950 Okay, what's next? Ah. This is-- 302 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:48,328 I think it's a-- some kind of Roman-- 303 00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:49,412 It's me playing Medea 304 00:13:49,412 --> 00:13:51,289 when I was in college, 305 00:13:51,289 --> 00:13:54,918 and that's the chorus and that's the gladiator. 306 00:13:54,918 --> 00:13:57,462 That's a play production that I was in when I was young. 307 00:13:57,462 --> 00:13:59,297 Jimmy Carter: Were you a terribly ambitious young girl 308 00:13:59,297 --> 00:14:01,174 when you were a teenager that got you out 309 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:03,760 - in this crazy business in the first place? - I had a lot of desire. 310 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,929 And a lot of, um, energy. 311 00:14:05,929 --> 00:14:08,181 And a lot of, um, you know, 312 00:14:08,181 --> 00:14:10,892 determination to do good work. 313 00:14:10,892 --> 00:14:12,268 Did you ever get down and frustrated, 314 00:14:12,268 --> 00:14:13,561 didn't think you were gonna make it, 315 00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:15,271 or did you always know that you had that goal set 316 00:14:15,271 --> 00:14:16,981 - and you were gonna make it? - All the time! 317 00:14:16,981 --> 00:14:19,150 Every day down and frustrated and, you know, 318 00:14:19,150 --> 00:14:21,194 had to pull yourself up and talk to yourself, 319 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:23,405 and I think that there's a lot of character building 320 00:14:23,405 --> 00:14:25,824 and strength that goes into, when one is fearful 321 00:14:25,824 --> 00:14:28,618 and when one takes on a large task. 322 00:14:31,538 --> 00:14:34,499 Six days after I graduated from Boston University, 323 00:14:34,499 --> 00:14:38,169 I went on Broadway in New York to play with Emlyn Williams 324 00:14:38,169 --> 00:14:40,672 in "A Man for All Seasons," and, at the same time, 325 00:14:40,672 --> 00:14:43,341 I worked in the training program for Lincoln Center Repertory. 326 00:14:43,341 --> 00:14:46,761 ‘Cause Robert Whitehead, the great producer, with Kazan, 327 00:14:46,761 --> 00:14:49,014 had seen me play things up in Boston. 328 00:14:49,764 --> 00:14:53,351 Barry Primus: Faye was in the company of Lincoln Center led by Kazan, 329 00:14:53,351 --> 00:14:55,186 and everybody wanted to be in this company. 330 00:14:55,186 --> 00:14:56,855 You had to audition for it. 331 00:14:56,855 --> 00:14:58,314 But, to be in the company you had to spend, 332 00:14:58,314 --> 00:15:01,401 almost eight or nine months in the training program. 333 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:03,820 We didn't think about going to Hollywood. 334 00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:05,530 We were thinking about being on the stage, 335 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:07,449 and so we were in an extremely exciting 336 00:15:07,449 --> 00:15:10,869 and enviable place by being with Kazan. 337 00:15:10,869 --> 00:15:13,038 reporter: What do you think of the new Lincoln Center group? 338 00:15:13,038 --> 00:15:15,248 Well, I must think a lot of it. I've worked a long time on it. 339 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:16,624 We've brought this bunch together, 340 00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:19,044 and it's a very exciting group. 341 00:15:19,044 --> 00:15:21,087 Very fresh and young, eager. 342 00:15:21,713 --> 00:15:25,133 And, uh, high-spirited. Wonderful group of people. 343 00:15:25,508 --> 00:15:28,094 - reporter: You mean the actors, don't you? - Yeah. 344 00:15:28,094 --> 00:15:31,639 Kazan would locate the part within the actor. 345 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,726 That was his secret. He said, "The material I use 346 00:15:34,726 --> 00:15:39,064 is the life that the actor has led up to this moment." 347 00:15:39,064 --> 00:15:40,857 Kazan taught me how to act. 348 00:15:40,857 --> 00:15:43,443 He taught me my feelings were my strength. 349 00:15:43,443 --> 00:15:45,236 I used to think they made me look weak 350 00:15:45,236 --> 00:15:48,698 and that I was weak if I cried or felt sad or depressed. 351 00:15:48,698 --> 00:15:50,867 And he taught me to use those feelings. 352 00:15:50,867 --> 00:15:52,118 He says, "They're who you are. 353 00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:54,162 They make you strong. They don't make you weak." 354 00:15:54,162 --> 00:15:55,580 You know, when you meet little girls, 355 00:15:55,580 --> 00:15:57,457 and they wanna be an actress like you when they grow up, 356 00:15:57,457 --> 00:16:00,335 - what do you tell them? - Get a good education. 357 00:16:00,335 --> 00:16:02,003 Become a person. 358 00:16:02,003 --> 00:16:04,547 And education is a big part of that. 359 00:16:04,547 --> 00:16:08,093 And then, when you can bring something to the profession, 360 00:16:08,093 --> 00:16:10,053 come in. But don't come out saying, 361 00:16:10,053 --> 00:16:11,805 "Oh, I wanna be an actress and get in front of a camera," 362 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:15,350 because a million other people will be there before you, 363 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:16,434 or simultaneously, 364 00:16:16,434 --> 00:16:18,353 and it's just not the way that it's gonna happen. 365 00:16:18,353 --> 00:16:20,730 You have to develop your own uniqueness. 366 00:16:21,106 --> 00:16:23,983 I was getting a salary on Broadway at that time, 367 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:26,528 but it wasn't that much. But I was a young actress. 368 00:16:26,528 --> 00:16:30,490 I was auditioning for things. I finally got "Hogan's Goat." 369 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:31,991 This was written by William Alfred, 370 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:33,785 who became my great mentor and friend. 371 00:16:33,785 --> 00:16:37,497 And it was Off-Broadway, but it was a beautiful role 372 00:16:37,497 --> 00:16:40,291 and written in blank verse with an Irish accent. 373 00:16:40,291 --> 00:16:42,919 Daughter of a mighty Father, 374 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:45,588 maiden patron of the May, 375 00:16:45,588 --> 00:16:48,800 angel forms around thee gather, 376 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,094 Macula non est in te. 377 00:16:51,094 --> 00:16:52,971 My mom in her 20s, 378 00:16:52,971 --> 00:16:55,932 she really turned more of parental guidance 379 00:16:55,932 --> 00:16:58,101 to William Alfred, 380 00:16:58,101 --> 00:17:00,770 who she had met on "Hogan's Goat." 381 00:17:00,770 --> 00:17:03,690 He was a professor at Harvard. 382 00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:05,233 He was also a writer, 383 00:17:05,233 --> 00:17:08,069 and they kind of just bonded. 384 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:10,405 I remember there's a picture of them together, 385 00:17:10,405 --> 00:17:13,199 and they're just literally at two ends of the desk, 386 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:15,410 and there's just like a typewriter in the middle, 387 00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:17,787 and you can see they're just working. 388 00:17:17,787 --> 00:17:19,205 And that was their relationship. 389 00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:20,540 And he would always read books, 390 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:22,959 so he got my mom into more reading and learning 391 00:17:22,959 --> 00:17:24,753 and educating herself, and being 392 00:17:24,753 --> 00:17:27,339 a master of her craft. 393 00:17:27,339 --> 00:17:29,716 Bill Alfred was my father, basically. 394 00:17:29,716 --> 00:17:31,092 My father in art. 395 00:17:31,092 --> 00:17:33,011 I would always go up there with my scripts, 396 00:17:33,011 --> 00:17:34,846 and we would sit in his living room, 397 00:17:34,846 --> 00:17:36,514 and he would fiddle and say, 398 00:17:36,514 --> 00:17:39,351 "Well, this is what maybe the playwright was thinking about." 399 00:17:39,351 --> 00:17:42,604 So, he helped me enormously, and he showed me how to work. 400 00:17:43,772 --> 00:17:47,067 But the play, "Hogan's Goat," was a surprise hit. 401 00:17:47,067 --> 00:17:48,651 You know, everyone came to see it. 402 00:17:48,651 --> 00:17:50,278 Jackie Onassis came one night. 403 00:17:50,278 --> 00:17:53,323 And the reviews were very good. Not just for me, 404 00:17:53,323 --> 00:17:55,367 but for the play as well. 405 00:17:55,367 --> 00:17:57,660 That's when Hollywood came knocking. 406 00:17:57,660 --> 00:18:01,706 And the casting director, Joyce Selznick, 407 00:18:01,706 --> 00:18:03,208 was in the audience, 408 00:18:03,208 --> 00:18:06,336 and she recommended me to Sam Spiegel, 409 00:18:06,336 --> 00:18:08,505 who was a very big Hollywood producer. 410 00:18:08,505 --> 00:18:10,715 He had produced "The African Queen," 411 00:18:10,715 --> 00:18:13,551 "On the Waterfront" with Marlon Brando, 412 00:18:13,551 --> 00:18:17,222 "Lawrence of Arabia," and he became a friend. 413 00:18:17,222 --> 00:18:19,391 Platonic. Never-- There was never any romance between us, 414 00:18:19,391 --> 00:18:23,103 but he believed in me, and he put me into my first film, 415 00:18:23,103 --> 00:18:24,145 "The Happening." 416 00:18:24,145 --> 00:18:25,855 Are you scared? 417 00:18:27,482 --> 00:18:28,525 Yes, I'm scared. 418 00:18:28,733 --> 00:18:31,111 I don't think you're really scared yet. 419 00:18:31,111 --> 00:18:33,071 It was glorious! You kidding? 420 00:18:33,071 --> 00:18:35,949 I was in shape. 421 00:18:35,949 --> 00:18:37,742 I used to do 100 sit-ups every morning 422 00:18:37,742 --> 00:18:40,036 because I had these bare midriff things I had to wear. 423 00:18:40,036 --> 00:18:42,247 It was the first film I did. Can you imagine? 424 00:18:42,247 --> 00:18:45,166 A young actress in this world of movie-making, 425 00:18:45,166 --> 00:18:46,960 which is glamorous and thrilling. 426 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,714 You and Rad made up your minds to go and sell the place? 427 00:18:50,714 --> 00:18:54,217 - You're gonna have to talk to Rad about that, Henry. - Okay. 428 00:18:54,217 --> 00:18:56,177 Only I hope you folks don't wait too long. 429 00:18:56,177 --> 00:18:58,888 In "Hurry Sundown," I played the farm wife. 430 00:18:58,888 --> 00:19:02,684 Jane Fonda played the wealthier wife with Michael Caine 431 00:19:02,684 --> 00:19:04,060 that I wanted to play, 432 00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:06,312 but I got the role of the poor Southern woman 433 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:09,190 who was with John Phillip Law. But I took it also because 434 00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:10,525 it reminded me of my mother. 435 00:19:10,525 --> 00:19:12,861 And the role of the farm wife was something 436 00:19:12,861 --> 00:19:15,530 that I knew from my grandmother when I was growing up. 437 00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:18,283 And it was a good experience in the end. 438 00:19:20,285 --> 00:19:23,788 Good afternoon. This is the Barrow gang. 439 00:19:25,457 --> 00:19:27,959 Now, if everybody will just take it easy, nobody will get hurt. 440 00:19:27,959 --> 00:19:29,169 Mark Harris: "Bonnie and Clyde," 441 00:19:29,169 --> 00:19:31,755 in its preparation and in its preproduction, 442 00:19:31,755 --> 00:19:34,299 was really a kind of men's club. 443 00:19:34,299 --> 00:19:37,344 It was written by Robert Benton and David Newman. 444 00:19:37,344 --> 00:19:38,803 Arthur Penn was the director. 445 00:19:38,803 --> 00:19:42,640 Warren Beatty was the star, but also the producer 446 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,353 and the kind of driving force in wanting to get it made. 447 00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:48,855 But, they waited to cast 448 00:19:48,855 --> 00:19:50,732 quote-unquote "the girl." 449 00:19:50,732 --> 00:19:52,150 Who's the girl gonna be? 450 00:19:57,822 --> 00:20:01,326 I went to the Beverly Wilshire Hotel in Los Angeles 451 00:20:01,326 --> 00:20:03,161 ‘cause that's where Warren had a suite 452 00:20:03,161 --> 00:20:05,038 in the very top of the hotel, 453 00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:08,500 and Arthur Penn was there. And we auditioned in the suite, 454 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:11,503 and I read some scenes of "Bonnie and Clyde." 455 00:20:11,503 --> 00:20:15,382 And Arthur basically said he wanted me to do it. 456 00:20:15,382 --> 00:20:17,008 Warren was less sure, 457 00:20:17,008 --> 00:20:19,969 but, in the end, Arthur Penn committed himself to me. 458 00:20:19,969 --> 00:20:22,764 He actually told Warren that if I didn't play it, 459 00:20:22,764 --> 00:20:24,391 he wasn't gonna do it. 460 00:20:24,391 --> 00:20:27,310 Annette Insdorf: It was Penn who insisted on Faye Dunaway. 461 00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:31,898 Although the other actresses being considered included 462 00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:34,401 Jane Fonda, Tuesday Weld, 463 00:20:34,401 --> 00:20:36,653 Natalie Wood, Leslie Caron, 464 00:20:36,653 --> 00:20:40,198 and, my, my, the film would've been different 465 00:20:40,198 --> 00:20:42,534 with any of the other actresses 466 00:20:42,534 --> 00:20:44,869 because of a special sensibility 467 00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:47,664 that Faye Dunaway brought to that part. 468 00:20:47,664 --> 00:20:48,998 I mean, I was a Southerner. 469 00:20:48,998 --> 00:20:51,376 You know, I mean, you saw in "Bonnie and Clyde" 470 00:20:51,376 --> 00:20:53,211 that I was home free. 471 00:20:53,211 --> 00:20:54,754 And the accent is a part of it. 472 00:20:54,754 --> 00:20:57,215 Oh, big Clyde Barrow! 473 00:20:57,215 --> 00:20:58,383 You're just like your brother! 474 00:20:58,383 --> 00:21:01,052 - Uh-huh! - Ignorant, uneducated hillbilly! 475 00:21:01,052 --> 00:21:02,721 Listen, the only special thing about you 476 00:21:02,721 --> 00:21:04,931 is your peculiar ideas about love-makin', 477 00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:07,058 which is no love-makin' at all! 478 00:21:07,392 --> 00:21:08,810 "Bonnie and Clyde," 479 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:11,104 the studios didn't like it. They didn't wanna show it. 480 00:21:11,104 --> 00:21:13,356 And Warren, at one point, 481 00:21:13,356 --> 00:21:15,233 in Warren's inimitable way, 482 00:21:15,233 --> 00:21:16,901 laid right down on the floor and says, 483 00:21:16,901 --> 00:21:18,445 "Sell me the picture." 484 00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:20,530 And they said, "Oh, get up from the floor, kid. 485 00:21:20,530 --> 00:21:22,323 Get-- What are you talk-- Get up." 486 00:21:22,323 --> 00:21:23,908 And he didn't. He just stood there, said, 487 00:21:23,908 --> 00:21:27,287 "Sell me the picture. I'll be back with a check this afternoon." 488 00:21:27,287 --> 00:21:30,415 He left. Well, you know, they then are saying, 489 00:21:30,415 --> 00:21:32,250 "Oh, God, he showed it to Fox. 490 00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:34,210 "Or he showed it to another studio. 491 00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:36,087 And they're interested, and now..." 492 00:21:36,087 --> 00:21:37,714 So, it worked. 493 00:21:38,590 --> 00:21:42,260 "Bonnie and Clyde" came out in the summer of 1967, 494 00:21:42,260 --> 00:21:43,762 but it took five or six months 495 00:21:43,762 --> 00:21:46,431 before the movie really started to take off 496 00:21:46,431 --> 00:21:48,683 and be popular across the country. 497 00:21:48,683 --> 00:21:50,477 And that was right at this interesting moment 498 00:21:50,477 --> 00:21:53,980 when everything in old Hollywood was falling apart. 499 00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:57,942 The production code, which had governed the content of movies 500 00:21:57,942 --> 00:22:01,821 for many decades, had finally been dismantled. 501 00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:04,699 So, there was suddenly this window 502 00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:08,119 when you could have very adult movies. 503 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,288 But nobody, including the people 504 00:22:10,288 --> 00:22:11,623 who were making the movies, 505 00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:15,377 knew quite how far those movies could go. 506 00:22:17,295 --> 00:22:20,173 James Gray: With "Bonnie and Clyde," you got the sense that 507 00:22:20,173 --> 00:22:21,883 the Band-Aid had been ripped off. 508 00:22:21,883 --> 00:22:23,677 All of a sudden, you saw... 509 00:22:23,677 --> 00:22:27,305 anguish. Real anguish. You heard about 510 00:22:27,305 --> 00:22:29,724 Clyde's sexual impotence. 511 00:22:29,724 --> 00:22:32,352 You saw her intensely frustrated 512 00:22:32,352 --> 00:22:34,229 and lonely, 513 00:22:34,229 --> 00:22:35,980 and her humanity validated. 514 00:22:35,980 --> 00:22:38,441 But also, her sadness, 515 00:22:38,441 --> 00:22:39,984 and that was not something we'd seen before 516 00:22:39,984 --> 00:22:41,194 with that kind of frankness. 517 00:22:41,194 --> 00:22:43,822 How long did it take them to shoot you up the way they did 518 00:22:43,822 --> 00:22:45,740 in, uh, in the end of "Bonnie and Clyde"? 519 00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:47,117 Yeah, it was incredible. 520 00:22:47,117 --> 00:22:49,244 It took, um... I think we did it-- 521 00:22:49,244 --> 00:22:51,121 I think we did it twice, on two days, 522 00:22:51,121 --> 00:22:53,456 and there were about four cameras going on each one. 523 00:22:53,456 --> 00:22:54,499 That was incredible. 524 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,025 Julie Salamon: The shootout and the death scene 525 00:23:20,025 --> 00:23:24,696 was shocking, and part of it was that you liked them. 526 00:23:24,696 --> 00:23:26,614 And it was echoing something 527 00:23:26,614 --> 00:23:28,533 that was going on across the country. 528 00:23:28,533 --> 00:23:31,995 In '63, President Kennedy was assassinated, 529 00:23:31,995 --> 00:23:35,373 and then a few years later, his brother, Robert Kennedy, 530 00:23:35,373 --> 00:23:37,625 running for President, was assassinated, 531 00:23:37,625 --> 00:23:40,503 and Martin Luther King was assassinated. 532 00:23:40,503 --> 00:23:43,131 Those were also incredibly turbulent times 533 00:23:43,131 --> 00:23:44,883 and very frightening 534 00:23:44,883 --> 00:23:46,760 because it just felt like everything 535 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,763 that we had been told and everything we had known 536 00:23:49,763 --> 00:23:52,182 was being turned upside down, 537 00:23:52,182 --> 00:23:55,685 and I think "Bonnie and Clyde," in this very seductive way, 538 00:23:55,685 --> 00:23:59,606 just brought that right into the movie theater. 539 00:24:01,775 --> 00:24:04,319 This is Faye's first time in Paris. 540 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:08,281 reporter: Will you tell us just shortly, uh, your stage experience? 541 00:24:08,281 --> 00:24:10,408 Three years stage experience in New York 542 00:24:10,408 --> 00:24:12,077 with the Lincoln Center Repertory Company. 543 00:24:12,077 --> 00:24:14,245 Two years with that, one year on Broadway. 544 00:24:14,245 --> 00:24:15,997 As a result of this fame 545 00:24:15,997 --> 00:24:17,707 that came as a result of "Bonnie and Clyde," 546 00:24:17,707 --> 00:24:19,876 it was a very frantic and hectic time. 547 00:24:19,876 --> 00:24:23,630 I don't have anything against fame, but it can be difficult 548 00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:26,007 because you don't have a lot of privacy sometimes. 549 00:24:26,007 --> 00:24:29,427 But, it's something that I accept and am grateful for 550 00:24:29,427 --> 00:24:32,597 because there are people who like my work. 551 00:24:32,597 --> 00:24:34,641 When one becomes successful, it's an opportunity. 552 00:24:34,641 --> 00:24:37,435 - It's a freedom, really. Success is freedom. -Yes, of course, it is. 553 00:24:37,435 --> 00:24:38,645 You can choose what you wanna do. 554 00:24:38,645 --> 00:24:40,772 You can choose what's most exciting for you. 555 00:24:40,772 --> 00:24:42,607 Bonnie and Clyde are very big here in France, 556 00:24:42,607 --> 00:24:43,983 and they have been for a long time, 557 00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:47,153 even though the film has only just now arrived. 558 00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:50,865 The French have for months been buying Bonnie and Clyde songs, 559 00:24:50,865 --> 00:24:53,827 neckties, hats, dresses, car accessories. 560 00:24:53,827 --> 00:24:57,539 People came in costumes of the American 1930s 561 00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:59,833 to see the Paris premiere of the film 562 00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:03,545 and to see its stars, Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty. 563 00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:06,047 Her look, which really did spark 564 00:25:06,047 --> 00:25:08,299 a major fashion trend, 565 00:25:08,299 --> 00:25:10,135 was intentionally anachronistic. 566 00:25:10,135 --> 00:25:14,055 Because if you look at pictures of the real Bonnie Parker, 567 00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:16,808 she did not look like Faye Dunaway. And so, 568 00:25:16,808 --> 00:25:20,729 this was a highly stylized, visually, 569 00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:23,064 highly romanticized version 570 00:25:23,064 --> 00:25:26,151 of Bonnie and Clyde, which was appropriate 571 00:25:26,151 --> 00:25:29,404 because this is partly a movie about celebrity 572 00:25:29,404 --> 00:25:30,989 and about seeking celebrity. 573 00:25:30,989 --> 00:25:33,575 And that part of the story is true. 574 00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:36,661 - Come on, smile. Hey... 575 00:25:36,661 --> 00:25:39,039 The look for Bonnie was established 576 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:40,915 by Theadora Van Runkle. 577 00:25:40,915 --> 00:25:43,501 She was a great friend of mine for many, many years, 578 00:25:43,501 --> 00:25:46,004 and she was a divine costume designer. 579 00:25:46,004 --> 00:25:49,174 And so, after Bonnie, she did "Thomas Crown" for me, 580 00:25:49,174 --> 00:25:52,927 with these very short miniskirts and ruffly things. 581 00:25:52,927 --> 00:25:55,221 And this woman, very feminine, but very aggressive. 582 00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,515 Alright, Eddy! I'm immoral! 583 00:25:57,515 --> 00:26:00,518 So is the world! I'm here for the money, okay? 584 00:26:00,518 --> 00:26:02,312 My character was a private investigator, 585 00:26:02,312 --> 00:26:03,855 and she was a dresser. 586 00:26:03,855 --> 00:26:06,691 She did these incredible looks every time she was in public, 587 00:26:06,691 --> 00:26:08,610 and that was just the choice we made. 588 00:26:08,610 --> 00:26:09,861 In a lot of my films, 589 00:26:09,861 --> 00:26:12,364 the clothes have created statements. 590 00:26:12,364 --> 00:26:14,199 I know what I am. 591 00:26:15,658 --> 00:26:17,994 Don't put your labels on me, Eddy. 592 00:26:17,994 --> 00:26:19,913 The story of "The Thomas Crown Affair" 593 00:26:19,913 --> 00:26:23,208 is about Thomas Crown, played by Steve McQueen, 594 00:26:23,208 --> 00:26:26,002 and he has these guys rob a bank, and, of course, 595 00:26:26,002 --> 00:26:28,630 it's the quote-unquote "perfect crime." 596 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:30,840 And the insurance company, 597 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,635 they send this high-powered insurance investigator 598 00:26:33,635 --> 00:26:35,345 to help the Boston Police. 599 00:26:35,345 --> 00:26:39,516 And that insurance investigator is Faye Dunaway, 600 00:26:39,516 --> 00:26:42,310 Vicki, and, of course, 601 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:45,897 they both are very intrigued by each other to put it mildly. 602 00:26:45,897 --> 00:26:47,399 Steve McQueen: Whose head are you after? 603 00:26:47,399 --> 00:26:49,275 - Yours. - Mine? 604 00:26:50,443 --> 00:26:51,903 Yours. 605 00:26:54,656 --> 00:26:56,616 She's very much of the moment. 606 00:26:56,616 --> 00:26:57,992 It's the '60s. 607 00:26:57,992 --> 00:27:00,829 The women's movement is coming into the forefront, 608 00:27:00,829 --> 00:27:02,831 so she's this independent woman 609 00:27:02,831 --> 00:27:06,543 who was so cool and so self-possessed. 610 00:27:06,543 --> 00:27:10,005 Nobody who's ever seen that movie 611 00:27:10,005 --> 00:27:12,966 would argue that perhaps the chess game 612 00:27:12,966 --> 00:27:16,011 is the most erotic piece of filmmaking ever made. 613 00:27:16,011 --> 00:27:17,137 Do you play? 614 00:27:20,432 --> 00:27:22,267 Try me. 615 00:27:22,267 --> 00:27:23,601 And there's not a word spoken! 616 00:27:24,185 --> 00:27:28,314 It's just chess moves. It's fingers. It's looks. 617 00:27:28,314 --> 00:27:29,649 It's a chess game! 618 00:27:29,649 --> 00:27:32,277 But, she and Steve McQueen, 619 00:27:32,277 --> 00:27:35,238 they play it so well that it is a silent game, 620 00:27:35,238 --> 00:27:37,532 and it's all in the looks, 621 00:27:37,532 --> 00:27:38,950 and, boy, does that work. 622 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:40,577 And you know she's in control. 623 00:27:40,577 --> 00:27:42,287 Check. 624 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:46,082 He and I had a wonderful chemistry, actually, 625 00:27:46,082 --> 00:27:47,625 because he was an actor for sure, 626 00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:49,210 but he was also Steve. 627 00:27:49,210 --> 00:27:52,297 He had a persona that was something that defined him 628 00:27:52,297 --> 00:27:55,300 perhaps more than this quote-unquote "acting." 629 00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:57,719 There's a story that Steve McQueen 630 00:27:57,719 --> 00:27:59,846 disparagingly referred to her 631 00:27:59,846 --> 00:28:02,557 either as Dun-fadeaway 632 00:28:02,557 --> 00:28:04,267 or Fadin'-away. 633 00:28:04,267 --> 00:28:05,435 Because she was thin. 634 00:28:05,435 --> 00:28:08,813 She was, like, disappearing and losing weight. 635 00:28:08,813 --> 00:28:12,817 There's a big demand that you be very, very, very thin. 636 00:28:14,152 --> 00:28:16,654 And that you fit everything. And that you look great. 637 00:28:16,654 --> 00:28:19,574 And you get a half an hour for lunch, 638 00:28:19,574 --> 00:28:21,201 from the time they break, 639 00:28:21,201 --> 00:28:25,789 to you eat, go to the toilet, brush your teeth, 640 00:28:25,789 --> 00:28:27,332 and get back on set. 641 00:28:27,332 --> 00:28:29,959 Absolutely, there is much more pressure on a woman. 642 00:28:29,959 --> 00:28:32,003 The clothes are very demanding. 643 00:28:32,003 --> 00:28:34,172 But, you're going at such a pace 644 00:28:34,172 --> 00:28:36,341 you don't have time to eat very much. 645 00:28:36,341 --> 00:28:39,052 Sharon Stone: In truth, you just don't get to eat 646 00:28:39,052 --> 00:28:41,513 three healthy meals a day and fit the clothes 647 00:28:41,513 --> 00:28:42,931 that come off the runway. 648 00:28:42,931 --> 00:28:46,434 You just really don't. And Faye and I know that. 649 00:28:47,894 --> 00:28:49,354 All the great photographers photograph Faye 650 00:28:49,354 --> 00:28:51,940 - 'cause she is a fashion icon. 651 00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:55,402 Jerry Schatzberg, of course, photographed Faye beautifully. 652 00:28:55,402 --> 00:28:57,654 They were an item in the '60s, 653 00:28:57,654 --> 00:28:59,739 and are still great friends. 654 00:28:59,739 --> 00:29:01,825 And he's a formidable photographer 655 00:29:01,825 --> 00:29:03,827 as well as director himself. 656 00:29:03,827 --> 00:29:06,079 Jerry Schatzberg: I got a call from "Esquire," 657 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:11,167 and they said they would like me to photograph a new actress. 658 00:29:11,167 --> 00:29:13,169 - And I was really happy to meet Faye, 659 00:29:13,169 --> 00:29:15,547 and we did some wonderful photographs. 660 00:29:15,547 --> 00:29:18,299 In the middle of the shoot, she started crying. 661 00:29:18,299 --> 00:29:21,302 And I thought maybe I had said something, 662 00:29:21,302 --> 00:29:23,388 but I couldn't really tell at first. 663 00:29:23,388 --> 00:29:25,682 I don't know. I think probably I wanted 664 00:29:25,682 --> 00:29:28,893 to have a vulnerability for these stills 665 00:29:28,893 --> 00:29:32,147 and, you know, you think of something that is sad for you 666 00:29:32,147 --> 00:29:33,773 and makes you cry. 667 00:29:33,773 --> 00:29:37,277 Life is emotional, and it's easy to tap into that. 668 00:29:37,277 --> 00:29:39,654 The lunches we had led to dinners, 669 00:29:39,654 --> 00:29:42,323 and we just liked talking to one another. 670 00:29:42,323 --> 00:29:43,783 We started spending time. 671 00:29:43,783 --> 00:29:45,910 After a while, she knew 672 00:29:45,910 --> 00:29:49,581 that I was aiming to get into making films, 673 00:29:49,581 --> 00:29:51,166 and she started asking me questions 674 00:29:51,166 --> 00:29:53,418 about the film I was working on. And that's how 675 00:29:53,418 --> 00:29:56,046 we got started with "Puzzle of a Downfall Child." 676 00:29:56,046 --> 00:30:00,842 Would you want to take a picture of me now, as I am? 677 00:30:00,842 --> 00:30:02,969 Well, uh, I didn't bring my camera. 678 00:30:02,969 --> 00:30:06,639 No, but you would not because I am imperfect! 679 00:30:06,639 --> 00:30:09,726 I-- My makeup has worn off, I look horrible. 680 00:30:09,726 --> 00:30:11,019 You know you look wonderful though, 681 00:30:11,019 --> 00:30:13,563 so you should stop knocking yourself down like that. 682 00:30:13,563 --> 00:30:15,273 I was in a play called "Huey," 683 00:30:15,273 --> 00:30:18,401 and Jerry saw me on that and thought I would be good 684 00:30:18,401 --> 00:30:21,071 for the role. But, of course, he checked with Faye, 685 00:30:21,071 --> 00:30:24,074 and Faye said, "Yeah, well sure. That'd be great." 686 00:30:24,074 --> 00:30:27,035 And Faye was so gorgeous in the film, 687 00:30:27,035 --> 00:30:29,662 and it appealed to her 688 00:30:29,662 --> 00:30:31,122 because it was another side of herself. 689 00:30:31,122 --> 00:30:32,999 You know, couldn't think of anything more different 690 00:30:32,999 --> 00:30:35,043 than Bonnie in this part. 691 00:30:35,043 --> 00:30:38,296 The character was Lou Andreas Sand, 692 00:30:38,296 --> 00:30:41,466 but it was based on a model by the name of Anne St. Marie. 693 00:30:41,466 --> 00:30:45,345 And she was a top, top model. Just owned the city. 694 00:30:45,345 --> 00:30:47,514 And Jerry's photographed her many times. 695 00:30:47,514 --> 00:30:50,058 She kept a list of photographers she didn't like anymore, 696 00:30:50,058 --> 00:30:51,851 and she would say that she wouldn't work for them. 697 00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:55,021 The camera gives you 15, 20 pounds. 698 00:30:55,021 --> 00:30:59,234 Thin as you are, may I suggest you drop five or seven pounds. 699 00:30:59,234 --> 00:31:00,276 Five or seven. 700 00:31:00,276 --> 00:31:02,529 Certainly, the character based on Anne 701 00:31:02,529 --> 00:31:06,491 was very tortured by relationships in the past, 702 00:31:06,491 --> 00:31:08,785 and she had a lot of darkness in her as well. 703 00:31:08,785 --> 00:31:10,662 And, you know, it's a difficult thing, 704 00:31:10,662 --> 00:31:11,996 sometimes I would think, 705 00:31:11,996 --> 00:31:13,873 coming to terms with being a model, 706 00:31:13,873 --> 00:31:15,500 because her whole career was based on 707 00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,044 how she looked through a lens, a camera. 708 00:31:18,044 --> 00:31:21,047 So, that was something that was very akin 709 00:31:21,047 --> 00:31:24,259 to what I experienced as an actress in, in film. 710 00:31:24,259 --> 00:31:27,971 I'm not adding up to anything, am I, Aaron? 711 00:31:27,971 --> 00:31:30,682 I'm not making any sense, am I? It won't-- 712 00:31:30,682 --> 00:31:31,933 Yes, you are. 713 00:31:31,933 --> 00:31:35,603 As a matter of fact, there was a period of time 714 00:31:35,603 --> 00:31:37,313 when you weren't doing too well. 715 00:31:37,689 --> 00:31:38,982 Was that when you were ill? 716 00:31:39,399 --> 00:31:41,693 I was able to relate to this character. 717 00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:42,777 I mean, who was it who said 718 00:31:42,777 --> 00:31:44,237 I walked around in a cloud of drama? 719 00:31:44,237 --> 00:31:46,322 I think it was Kazan. 720 00:31:46,322 --> 00:31:48,366 That you never know what's gonna happen next. 721 00:31:48,366 --> 00:31:51,953 It could be true, and I was-- had periods, you know, 722 00:31:51,953 --> 00:31:55,040 where I was very depressed and I was very moody 723 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,709 and actually have, we might as well say, 724 00:31:57,709 --> 00:31:59,836 a bipolar diagnosis. 725 00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:02,714 It's a very real thing. It's bipolar. 726 00:32:02,714 --> 00:32:04,215 It's manic depressive 727 00:32:04,215 --> 00:32:06,384 is another name for this illness. 728 00:32:06,384 --> 00:32:10,472 And it's an imbalance, a biological imbalance. 729 00:32:10,472 --> 00:32:13,183 You can be up high, you can be manic, 730 00:32:13,183 --> 00:32:14,893 you can be very depressed is the other place to be. 731 00:32:14,893 --> 00:32:17,020 So, I do have mood swings, up and down. 732 00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:19,397 And it was happening early on as well, I think. 733 00:32:19,397 --> 00:32:21,608 And they only became more evident 734 00:32:21,608 --> 00:32:23,902 as I grew later in my life. 735 00:32:23,902 --> 00:32:25,904 - Will you stop angering me? 736 00:32:27,572 --> 00:32:29,657 My mom always had depression issues, 737 00:32:29,657 --> 00:32:30,992 bipolar issues, 738 00:32:30,992 --> 00:32:34,162 but it wasn't until a couple of years ago, 739 00:32:34,162 --> 00:32:37,040 where I had watched my mom go through, like, really hard, 740 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,668 hard times and hit rock bottom. 741 00:32:39,668 --> 00:32:41,920 So, I kind of got to the point where I said, "Hey, listen, 742 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,172 like, let's get you to this clinic in Boston," 743 00:32:44,172 --> 00:32:46,508 where she went to lectures and classes, 744 00:32:46,508 --> 00:32:48,968 and they got her on the right stuff, 745 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:51,096 and she came out like a whole new person. 746 00:32:51,096 --> 00:32:53,139 I worked with a group of doctors 747 00:32:53,139 --> 00:32:56,142 who analyzed my behavior, and who, who gave me 748 00:32:56,142 --> 00:32:57,560 prescriptions for pills 749 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,062 that they thought would be good for me, 750 00:32:59,062 --> 00:33:01,606 and they have helped. So, I am quieter, 751 00:33:01,606 --> 00:33:02,982 but throughout my career, 752 00:33:02,982 --> 00:33:05,402 people know that there were tough times. 753 00:33:05,402 --> 00:33:07,112 But I don't need to make an excuse about it. 754 00:33:07,112 --> 00:33:09,447 I'm still responsible for my actions. 755 00:33:09,447 --> 00:33:11,783 But this is what I came to understand 756 00:33:11,783 --> 00:33:14,119 was the reason for them. It's something 757 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,538 you need to be aware of, and you need to try 758 00:33:16,538 --> 00:33:19,541 to do the right thing to take care of it. 759 00:33:19,541 --> 00:33:21,710 Unfortunately, 760 00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:25,630 something happened in her life that then, uh, we, uh, 761 00:33:26,673 --> 00:33:27,841 had to break up. 762 00:33:27,841 --> 00:33:30,969 Well, I went over to Italy, and I did a film 763 00:33:30,969 --> 00:33:32,470 with Mastroianni, 764 00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:34,806 and, uh, I did fall in love with him, 765 00:33:34,806 --> 00:33:38,101 and we had a relationship for a couple of years. 766 00:33:38,101 --> 00:33:40,478 I would say if I'm gonna lose somebody, 767 00:33:40,478 --> 00:33:42,480 it might as well be to Marcello Mastroianni. 768 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,358 I got the feeling I'm a part of a plan. 769 00:33:45,358 --> 00:33:48,111 I come out all alone. 770 00:33:48,111 --> 00:33:50,822 But it's nice, anyway. I don't say it isn't. 771 00:33:51,322 --> 00:33:53,616 Marcello Mastroianni, 772 00:33:53,616 --> 00:33:54,826 well, he was the king of Europe. 773 00:33:54,826 --> 00:33:58,538 He was the most famous actor in Italy. 774 00:33:58,538 --> 00:34:00,290 Are you married? 775 00:34:02,459 --> 00:34:05,420 - Just about. 776 00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:08,506 Is she in Milan? Do you live together? 777 00:34:09,591 --> 00:34:11,009 Yes, for a while now. 778 00:34:11,009 --> 00:34:12,761 And, you know, we were together, 779 00:34:12,761 --> 00:34:14,346 but he was married, 780 00:34:14,346 --> 00:34:17,640 and it's tricky because in a Catholic country like Italy, 781 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,185 you couldn't have divorce. 782 00:34:20,185 --> 00:34:22,479 So, it had to be backstreet. And I really-- 783 00:34:22,479 --> 00:34:24,230 Foolish girl. 784 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,191 I really kinda got into it for a while, 785 00:34:26,191 --> 00:34:28,193 I mean, because he meant so much to me. 786 00:34:28,193 --> 00:34:31,738 I would fly into Fiumicino with a brown wig 787 00:34:31,738 --> 00:34:35,325 and go to a place where we had a person arranging things. 788 00:34:35,325 --> 00:34:37,327 I mean, it was all very, you know, 789 00:34:37,327 --> 00:34:39,496 romantic and illusional. 790 00:34:39,496 --> 00:34:42,082 Delusional perhaps. 791 00:34:42,082 --> 00:34:43,875 It’s hard to say. You're young 792 00:34:44,209 --> 00:34:47,712 and there are interesting people that you meet. 793 00:34:47,712 --> 00:34:51,091 And so, that was certainly the case with him. 794 00:34:51,758 --> 00:34:52,884 That was the way it was. 795 00:34:52,884 --> 00:34:54,803 And then, finally, it was too much. 796 00:34:54,803 --> 00:34:56,221 Finally, I was ready to leave it. 797 00:34:56,221 --> 00:35:00,016 Marcello Mastroianni was quoted in a woman's magazine, 798 00:35:00,016 --> 00:35:02,727 saying the most extraordinary things about you. 799 00:35:02,727 --> 00:35:03,853 The most complimentary. 800 00:35:03,853 --> 00:35:06,731 The most fantastic woman he's ever known in his life. 801 00:35:06,731 --> 00:35:09,567 Well, I think that's very nice. 802 00:35:09,567 --> 00:35:11,695 I don't know, that's a whole other can of peas. 803 00:35:11,695 --> 00:35:13,947 - That you'd rather not open up. - I think not. 804 00:35:13,947 --> 00:35:15,365 Ah. Are you sad though 805 00:35:15,365 --> 00:35:17,742 with the, the breakup of that relationship? 806 00:35:17,742 --> 00:35:19,577 No, I'm not at all. 807 00:35:19,577 --> 00:35:21,246 And, uh... I mean, I am, 808 00:35:21,246 --> 00:35:23,206 you know, in certain, certain-- 809 00:35:23,206 --> 00:35:25,250 Yes. Yes and no. I'm not-- 810 00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:26,960 Things happen as they happen, I think. 811 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,670 I do have some kind of... 812 00:35:29,421 --> 00:35:32,340 belief that it was-- what happened was right 813 00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:34,926 and necessary for him, as well as me. 814 00:35:34,926 --> 00:35:36,970 He made a bit of a furor there for a while, 815 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:38,430 but I don't think it was-- 816 00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:40,348 I think he's very well now, and I think, you know, 817 00:35:40,348 --> 00:35:42,684 we-we gained from it. Whatever it was. 818 00:35:42,684 --> 00:35:44,602 And that's all I'm gonna tell you. 819 00:35:45,603 --> 00:35:48,523 I've got sort of two-year sequences in my life, 820 00:35:48,523 --> 00:35:51,234 and I think that definitely dates back to the time 821 00:35:51,234 --> 00:35:53,611 when we were traveling with my father in the Army. 822 00:35:53,611 --> 00:35:56,156 Every two years, you know, you had to pick up and go. 823 00:35:56,156 --> 00:35:58,283 You had to leave the friends that were there. 824 00:35:58,783 --> 00:36:02,370 And I think I learned not to be too close to people 825 00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:05,081 because you're gonna lose them anyway. 826 00:36:05,081 --> 00:36:06,958 So, you may as well move away. 827 00:36:06,958 --> 00:36:08,460 There's going to be an end, 828 00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:11,046 and the end, I think, was very painful for me. 829 00:36:11,046 --> 00:36:14,758 And now, I think I-- that still is part of my life that way. 830 00:36:14,758 --> 00:36:17,385 And I think that was a pattern that was set up very early, 831 00:36:17,385 --> 00:36:19,137 and I noticed in my relationships 832 00:36:19,137 --> 00:36:21,765 they lasted about two years. 833 00:36:21,765 --> 00:36:23,641 You know, I could've still been with Marcello. 834 00:36:23,641 --> 00:36:26,061 In many ways, he was the love of my life. 835 00:36:26,061 --> 00:36:28,271 And also, I've always been about work. 836 00:36:28,271 --> 00:36:30,982 I need my work. It fulfills me. 837 00:36:30,982 --> 00:36:33,109 It makes me feel good about myself. 838 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:35,153 And I feel a sense of my own strength, 839 00:36:35,153 --> 00:36:38,615 and I feel I can achieve something. 840 00:36:38,615 --> 00:36:39,783 So, to me, what I need is my work. 841 00:36:39,783 --> 00:36:42,327 I don't need, necessarily, another person. 842 00:36:42,327 --> 00:36:43,828 But I know it's wrong. 843 00:36:43,828 --> 00:36:47,082 I know one should have other people in one's life. 844 00:36:47,082 --> 00:36:49,000 But, work was the thing I could always turn to. 845 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,251 It was the thing that never let me down. 846 00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:52,545 It was what I did, and it was solid. 847 00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:56,841 I don't see anyone for very long, Mr. Gittes. 848 00:36:56,841 --> 00:36:58,968 It's difficult for me. 849 00:36:59,969 --> 00:37:01,346 Hawk Koch: On "Chinatown," 850 00:37:01,346 --> 00:37:03,682 I was told to call Faye 851 00:37:03,682 --> 00:37:08,103 to come out from New York to LA to do wardrobe fittings. 852 00:37:08,103 --> 00:37:10,855 And I said, "Hi, Miss Dunaway. I'm Howard Koch, 853 00:37:10,855 --> 00:37:13,483 "and I'm the first assistant director on the movie. 854 00:37:13,483 --> 00:37:16,236 "And just calling you to say that, you know, 855 00:37:16,236 --> 00:37:19,656 we need you out here next week. We'll fly you out." 856 00:37:19,656 --> 00:37:21,074 And then she said to me, 857 00:37:21,074 --> 00:37:22,617 "You're Sagittarius, aren't you?" 858 00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:24,536 "Uh, yes." 859 00:37:24,536 --> 00:37:26,538 She said, "Oh, we won't get along." 860 00:37:26,538 --> 00:37:29,749 - Whoa. 861 00:37:29,749 --> 00:37:31,376 Okay. 862 00:37:31,376 --> 00:37:33,420 So, that was my introduction to Faye. 863 00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:36,047 You see, I'm Mrs. Evelyn Mulwray. 864 00:37:36,047 --> 00:37:37,716 You know, Mr. Mulwray's wife? 865 00:37:38,466 --> 00:37:41,845 Not, uh, that Mulwray? 866 00:37:41,845 --> 00:37:44,597 Yes, Mr. Gittes, that Mulwray. 867 00:37:44,597 --> 00:37:47,600 What reputation did she have at that point? 868 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,019 That she was difficult. 869 00:37:49,019 --> 00:37:51,938 Faye was difficult but serious, and a terrific actress. 870 00:37:51,938 --> 00:37:53,106 That's the reputation. 871 00:37:53,106 --> 00:37:54,816 There's no point in gettin' tough with me-- 872 00:37:54,816 --> 00:37:57,819 I don't get tough with anyone, Mr. Gittes. 873 00:37:57,819 --> 00:37:59,195 My lawyer does. 874 00:38:00,822 --> 00:38:05,201 "Chinatown" is a film noir detective story, 875 00:38:05,201 --> 00:38:07,579 and then it becomes something so much deeper. 876 00:38:07,579 --> 00:38:10,457 It's a story about large-scale corruption 877 00:38:10,457 --> 00:38:13,418 in a business-type sense, and more importantly, 878 00:38:13,418 --> 00:38:15,545 familial corruption. 879 00:38:15,545 --> 00:38:21,343 The kind of horrors that people in power do to the powerless. 880 00:38:21,343 --> 00:38:23,595 And at the time, again, 881 00:38:23,595 --> 00:38:26,931 it was tied into the things going on in the larger world. 882 00:38:26,931 --> 00:38:28,641 President Richard Nixon: People have gotta know 883 00:38:28,641 --> 00:38:31,019 whether or not their president is a crook. 884 00:38:31,019 --> 00:38:32,437 Well, I'm not a crook. 885 00:38:32,437 --> 00:38:34,105 Roman Polanski: You see, it all happened at 886 00:38:34,105 --> 00:38:35,398 the beginning of the Watergate. 887 00:38:35,398 --> 00:38:37,609 When I came here, it all started. 888 00:38:37,609 --> 00:38:40,779 And during those eight weeks, we were bombarded 889 00:38:40,779 --> 00:38:44,657 by all news media with what was going on. 890 00:38:44,657 --> 00:38:47,160 And the parallels were so obvious 891 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,995 that it obviously inspired us 892 00:38:48,995 --> 00:38:51,081 to go more even in this direction 893 00:38:51,081 --> 00:38:53,833 and try to dig into certain things 894 00:38:53,833 --> 00:38:56,795 that had to do with Los Angeles and its history. 895 00:38:56,795 --> 00:38:59,297 Jack Nicholson: They're blowin' these farmers outta their land 896 00:38:59,297 --> 00:39:00,507 and then pickin' it up for peanuts. 897 00:39:00,507 --> 00:39:02,884 You have any idea what this land would be worth 898 00:39:02,884 --> 00:39:04,844 with a steady water supply? 899 00:39:04,844 --> 00:39:07,889 About 30 million more than they paid for it. 900 00:39:07,889 --> 00:39:11,601 It felt like everything you thought was right was wrong, 901 00:39:11,601 --> 00:39:14,813 and everything you thought was moral was immoral. 902 00:39:14,813 --> 00:39:19,776 And that feels even more powerful and more relevant. 903 00:39:21,861 --> 00:39:23,655 It was a mysterious woman, too, 904 00:39:23,655 --> 00:39:25,198 which is fun to play, first of all, 905 00:39:25,198 --> 00:39:27,492 because I have to know what she's thinking all the time, 906 00:39:27,492 --> 00:39:30,286 and that particular character nobody else knew 907 00:39:30,286 --> 00:39:31,496 what she was thinking, 908 00:39:31,496 --> 00:39:33,873 so that they easily misconstru-- mis-misconstrued 909 00:39:33,873 --> 00:39:36,459 - what she was saying or doing. - David Sheehan: Yeah, yeah. 910 00:39:36,459 --> 00:39:38,837 As did Gittes, the Nicholson character. 911 00:39:38,837 --> 00:39:41,715 You've already got one going, Mrs. Mulwray. 912 00:39:42,632 --> 00:39:45,301 - Oh. -Does, uh, my talking 913 00:39:45,301 --> 00:39:47,637 about your father upset you? 914 00:39:47,637 --> 00:39:49,848 Why, no. 915 00:39:49,848 --> 00:39:53,852 Yes. A little. You see, Hollis and my f-- 916 00:39:55,687 --> 00:39:59,607 my father had, um, a falling out, finally. 917 00:40:00,233 --> 00:40:03,862 Evelyn Mulwray was dynamite. She was a great character. 918 00:40:03,862 --> 00:40:05,780 You know, Roman Polanski did a good movie. 919 00:40:05,780 --> 00:40:07,741 We had difficult times, he and I, 920 00:40:07,741 --> 00:40:10,035 but he's a great film director. 921 00:40:12,662 --> 00:40:14,789 There you go. 922 00:40:14,789 --> 00:40:17,876 That's Polanski and me in "Chinatown." 923 00:40:17,876 --> 00:40:19,419 Roman the Terror. 924 00:40:19,419 --> 00:40:21,087 But he thought I was a terror also, 925 00:40:21,087 --> 00:40:25,300 I'm sure, so... We had a pretty complicated time. 926 00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:26,718 Jack helped, though. 927 00:40:26,718 --> 00:40:29,179 Nicholson being there made all the difference. 928 00:40:29,637 --> 00:40:31,723 For this particular movie, 929 00:40:31,723 --> 00:40:35,060 it was all about the hair, the makeup, the dress, 930 00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:36,936 the whole thing of Mrs. Mulwray, 931 00:40:36,936 --> 00:40:40,732 and she made it difficult on all of us because-- 932 00:40:40,732 --> 00:40:42,859 and I'm sure you've heard about Blistex. 933 00:40:42,859 --> 00:40:45,487 -When did you discover Blistex? 934 00:40:45,487 --> 00:40:48,031 On my lips, I can't speak without it. 935 00:40:48,031 --> 00:40:50,200 Lee Harman, who was our great makeup man, 936 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,369 had a tube of Blistex. 937 00:40:52,369 --> 00:40:53,536 And between every shot, 938 00:40:53,536 --> 00:40:56,081 he'd have to put Blistex on her lips. 939 00:40:56,081 --> 00:40:57,624 It was her security blanket. 940 00:40:57,624 --> 00:40:59,793 But, for Roman and for the rest of us... 941 00:40:59,793 --> 00:41:02,420 Oy vey, what a pain in the ass. 942 00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:04,756 ‘Cause it took time, 943 00:41:04,756 --> 00:41:06,633 and you wanna keep it rolling. 944 00:41:09,094 --> 00:41:11,846 I remember this one time, we're shooting in a restaurant 945 00:41:11,846 --> 00:41:13,348 called the Windsor Restaurant. 946 00:41:13,348 --> 00:41:15,558 It's a two-shot of Faye and Jack, 947 00:41:15,558 --> 00:41:18,436 and, originally, she didn't have the hat on. 948 00:41:18,436 --> 00:41:20,355 So, as we're about to shoot, 949 00:41:20,355 --> 00:41:22,941 one hair on Faye's head 950 00:41:22,941 --> 00:41:24,401 just stuck up. 951 00:41:24,401 --> 00:41:26,903 So, Roman said, "Faye! Faye, you have one hair! 952 00:41:26,903 --> 00:41:29,698 Can you just, you know, just..." 953 00:41:29,698 --> 00:41:32,200 And Faye went, "Okay, okay," and put it down. 954 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,370 And I said, "Okay, ready, and..." And the hair popped up. 955 00:41:35,370 --> 00:41:36,996 It was a very tense moment 956 00:41:36,996 --> 00:41:39,457 and, you know, my hair was deeply marcelled, 957 00:41:39,457 --> 00:41:41,668 which means they have to force it into waves. 958 00:41:41,668 --> 00:41:43,420 And I have naturally curly hair, 959 00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:44,629 so my hair doesn't wanna do 960 00:41:44,629 --> 00:41:46,464 what another person tells it to do. 961 00:41:46,464 --> 00:41:48,049 And there was a hair sticking up. 962 00:41:48,049 --> 00:41:50,969 Susie Germaine, the hairdresser, she comes in... 963 00:41:50,969 --> 00:41:53,638 with the spray. Get it down. 964 00:41:53,638 --> 00:41:55,640 "Okay, ready, and..." 965 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,434 The hair pops up again. 966 00:41:57,434 --> 00:42:01,146 Roman literally walks around 967 00:42:01,146 --> 00:42:03,440 and pulls the hair 968 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,275 out of Faye's head. 969 00:42:05,275 --> 00:42:06,526 I've been around a long time. 970 00:42:06,526 --> 00:42:08,528 Even then, I had been around a long time. 971 00:42:08,528 --> 00:42:10,155 I never heard some of those words. 972 00:42:10,155 --> 00:42:13,116 That's enough to set off the manic depression. 973 00:42:13,116 --> 00:42:15,118 I just-- I said-- I-- 974 00:42:15,118 --> 00:42:17,245 Well, it was offensive. You don't do that. 975 00:42:17,245 --> 00:42:21,166 So, I went to my trailer, and it was a whole situation. 976 00:42:21,583 --> 00:42:24,002 Finally, we got her back to the set, 977 00:42:24,002 --> 00:42:26,463 but Anthea Sylbert, costume designer, 978 00:42:26,755 --> 00:42:28,882 put a hat on her. 979 00:42:28,882 --> 00:42:32,677 So, we started the scene over, and she shot it with a hat on, 980 00:42:32,677 --> 00:42:35,096 so we didn't have to worry about the hair popping up. 981 00:42:35,972 --> 00:42:37,223 Now, 982 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,226 I think you know all you need know about me. 983 00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,480 I didn't want publicity. I didn't want to go into 984 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,982 any of this, then or now. 985 00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:47,776 Is that all? 986 00:42:48,026 --> 00:42:50,653 After that hair incident, Jack nicknamed me. 987 00:42:50,653 --> 00:42:52,989 "Dread," he called me. The Dreaded Dunaway 988 00:42:52,989 --> 00:42:54,366 was his name for me. 989 00:42:54,366 --> 00:42:56,368 He still to this day calls me Dread. 990 00:42:56,368 --> 00:42:57,452 And I love it. 991 00:42:57,452 --> 00:42:58,912 Now I wanna know how it happened 992 00:42:58,912 --> 00:43:01,664 and I wanna know why and I wanna know before Escobar gets here 993 00:43:01,664 --> 00:43:03,667 because I don't wanna lose my license. 994 00:43:03,667 --> 00:43:05,835 I don't know what you are talking about. 995 00:43:05,835 --> 00:43:07,712 Th-This is the craziest, the most insane-- 996 00:43:07,712 --> 00:43:09,089 -Stop it! 997 00:43:09,089 --> 00:43:10,715 One of the most shocking scenes 998 00:43:10,715 --> 00:43:14,511 was the moment of revelation that Evelyn Mulwray 999 00:43:14,511 --> 00:43:17,055 had, in fact, been raped by her own father, 1000 00:43:17,055 --> 00:43:21,184 and a child from that relationship was her daughter 1001 00:43:21,184 --> 00:43:22,477 and her sister. 1002 00:43:22,477 --> 00:43:24,187 What's her name? 1003 00:43:25,772 --> 00:43:27,524 Katherine. 1004 00:43:27,524 --> 00:43:29,025 Katherine who? 1005 00:43:31,236 --> 00:43:32,821 She's my daughter. 1006 00:43:33,697 --> 00:43:35,198 - I said I want the truth! 1007 00:43:35,198 --> 00:43:37,575 What we do in movies is we usually do that 1008 00:43:37,575 --> 00:43:38,952 and that 1009 00:43:38,952 --> 00:43:41,413 and the hand comes quite close, but it doesn't slap. 1010 00:43:41,413 --> 00:43:43,039 Well, it doesn't work, of course. 1011 00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,875 I said finally to Jack, "You're gonna have to slap me. 1012 00:43:45,875 --> 00:43:49,254 Just go ahead and do it." And he said, "You sure, Dread?" 1013 00:43:49,254 --> 00:43:52,007 And so I said, yeah. So then, we did it again, 1014 00:43:52,007 --> 00:43:53,049 and it worked. 1015 00:43:53,049 --> 00:43:54,342 She's my sister. 1016 00:43:55,677 --> 00:43:58,388 She's my daughter. 1017 00:43:58,388 --> 00:44:00,974 - My sister, my daughter-- 1018 00:44:00,974 --> 00:44:02,976 I said I want the truth! 1019 00:44:06,688 --> 00:44:11,109 She's my sister and my daughter! 1020 00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:13,278 Faye's such an extraordinary actress 1021 00:44:13,278 --> 00:44:15,655 and her ferocious intent 1022 00:44:15,655 --> 00:44:18,783 with her characters was something I really admired. 1023 00:44:18,783 --> 00:44:20,660 For a beautiful woman 1024 00:44:20,660 --> 00:44:23,955 to take a bite out of characters like that 1025 00:44:23,955 --> 00:44:28,460 is so unusual and so rarely offered. 1026 00:44:32,255 --> 00:44:33,798 Better get out of here! 1027 00:44:33,798 --> 00:44:36,718 - Lena, it's me! 1028 00:44:36,718 --> 00:44:37,802 In the early '70s, 1029 00:44:37,802 --> 00:44:39,804 we are now making films about women 1030 00:44:39,804 --> 00:44:41,306 who can be independent. 1031 00:44:41,306 --> 00:44:45,727 Women who are no longer defining themselves 1032 00:44:45,727 --> 00:44:48,813 purely in terms of being mothers and wives. 1033 00:44:48,813 --> 00:44:51,858 And that-that marked the '70s, in society, 1034 00:44:51,858 --> 00:44:53,276 as well as on screen. 1035 00:44:53,276 --> 00:44:54,361 What good are you? 1036 00:44:54,361 --> 00:44:56,321 I'm your father, Lena. 1037 00:44:56,321 --> 00:44:58,073 So what? 1038 00:44:58,073 --> 00:44:59,657 You wanna read me nursery rhymes? 1039 00:44:59,657 --> 00:45:01,242 It's a little late for that. 1040 00:45:01,242 --> 00:45:03,995 This was not somebody who was typecast. 1041 00:45:03,995 --> 00:45:07,499 She was playing very different kinds of characters 1042 00:45:07,499 --> 00:45:09,334 with very different looks. 1043 00:45:09,334 --> 00:45:12,253 Anything Faye Dunaway was going to be in, 1044 00:45:12,253 --> 00:45:13,380 I wanted to see it. 1045 00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:15,215 I saw it happen. 1046 00:45:15,215 --> 00:45:17,175 With your own eyes? 1047 00:45:19,344 --> 00:45:20,845 In a nightmare. 1048 00:45:20,845 --> 00:45:23,223 The '70s was just like a goldmine. 1049 00:45:23,223 --> 00:45:25,266 It was an incredible time for film. 1050 00:45:25,266 --> 00:45:26,935 That's when things started happening 1051 00:45:26,935 --> 00:45:28,853 in a major kind of way, 1052 00:45:28,853 --> 00:45:30,522 and the big one was "Network." 1053 00:45:30,522 --> 00:45:33,983 I want you to get up now. 1054 00:45:33,983 --> 00:45:37,278 I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. 1055 00:45:37,278 --> 00:45:40,824 I want you to get up right now and go to the window, 1056 00:45:40,824 --> 00:45:44,327 open it, and stick your head out and yell, 1057 00:45:44,327 --> 00:45:45,954 "I'm as mad as hell, 1058 00:45:45,954 --> 00:45:48,623 and I'm not going to take this anymore!" 1059 00:45:48,623 --> 00:45:49,958 When the script was sent to me, 1060 00:45:49,958 --> 00:45:52,043 I read it, and I said yes. 1061 00:45:52,043 --> 00:45:54,004 And everyone didn't want me to do it. 1062 00:45:54,004 --> 00:45:55,588 They said she didn't have a heart, 1063 00:45:55,588 --> 00:45:56,881 and she didn't have a soul. 1064 00:45:56,881 --> 00:45:59,801 She was a TV baby. That's all she knew. 1065 00:45:59,801 --> 00:46:02,721 Television and ratings and that's what made her tick. 1066 00:46:02,721 --> 00:46:05,682 I seem to be inept at everything. 1067 00:46:05,682 --> 00:46:07,726 Except my work. 1068 00:46:07,726 --> 00:46:10,020 I'm good at my work. 1069 00:46:10,020 --> 00:46:12,522 So, I confine myself to that. 1070 00:46:12,522 --> 00:46:16,067 All I want out of life is a 30 share and a 20 rating. 1071 00:46:16,067 --> 00:46:18,319 The script was by Paddy Chayefsky, 1072 00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:22,532 and he was, I think, using the character of Diana 1073 00:46:22,532 --> 00:46:25,452 and Faye Dunaway's body and soul 1074 00:46:25,452 --> 00:46:27,203 to critique what he saw as 1075 00:46:27,203 --> 00:46:29,789 the worst excesses of television. 1076 00:46:29,789 --> 00:46:33,168 Namely that mentality that we have to be number one. 1077 00:46:33,168 --> 00:46:34,753 We have to have all the profits. 1078 00:46:34,753 --> 00:46:38,089 Who cares who gets trampled in the process? 1079 00:46:38,089 --> 00:46:41,301 We've got the number-one show in television! 1080 00:46:44,179 --> 00:46:46,765 And at next year's affiliates meeting, I'll be standing here, 1081 00:46:46,765 --> 00:46:48,933 telling you we've got the top five! 1082 00:46:50,268 --> 00:46:51,853 Paddy Chayefsky: Now, you're talking about 1083 00:46:51,853 --> 00:46:54,939 a multi, multi, multi-million dollar industry. 1084 00:46:54,939 --> 00:46:57,776 As big as steel, as big as electronics. 1085 00:46:57,776 --> 00:47:00,403 It's an enormous industry. And right now, 1086 00:47:00,403 --> 00:47:03,615 it's an industry dedicated to one thing, profit, 1087 00:47:03,615 --> 00:47:07,285 and the only responsibility they have is to their stockholders. 1088 00:47:07,285 --> 00:47:09,704 - The interesting thing-- - And that, I think, is worth knowing, 1089 00:47:09,704 --> 00:47:11,664 that what you see on television 1090 00:47:11,664 --> 00:47:14,000 is what's getting money for the network. 1091 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,794 And it's not true. 1092 00:47:15,794 --> 00:47:18,463 I think it's necessary to expose 1093 00:47:18,463 --> 00:47:19,881 what that process is, 1094 00:47:19,881 --> 00:47:22,467 as it goes on in contemporary times. 1095 00:47:22,467 --> 00:47:24,052 And it just seemed to me that 1096 00:47:24,052 --> 00:47:25,845 you had to play her. You had to get it out there. 1097 00:47:25,845 --> 00:47:28,640 And Sidney Lumet was a fantastic director. 1098 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,142 Sidney Lumet: And I had said to Faye, when I first met her, 1099 00:47:31,142 --> 00:47:34,145 "I know what the first question is gonna be from you, 1100 00:47:34,145 --> 00:47:37,232 "and that you're gonna ask me, where is her vulnerability? 1101 00:47:37,232 --> 00:47:39,901 "And I'm gonna tell you right now, she has none. 1102 00:47:39,901 --> 00:47:42,153 "And if you try to get any in (laughs), 1103 00:47:42,153 --> 00:47:43,822 I'll cut it out of the movie." 1104 00:47:43,822 --> 00:47:45,156 I've been telling you people 1105 00:47:45,156 --> 00:47:46,908 since I took this job six months ago 1106 00:47:46,908 --> 00:47:49,369 that I want angry shows. 1107 00:47:49,369 --> 00:47:51,496 I don't want conventional programming on this network. 1108 00:47:51,496 --> 00:47:54,374 I want counterculture. I want anti-establishment. 1109 00:47:54,374 --> 00:47:56,626 David Itzkoff: Dunaway, at this point in her career, 1110 00:47:56,626 --> 00:47:58,712 is, of course, an A-list star. 1111 00:47:58,712 --> 00:48:01,798 She was the first person to be officially cast in the film. 1112 00:48:01,798 --> 00:48:03,717 She's already got her Oscar nominations 1113 00:48:03,717 --> 00:48:05,635 for "Bonnie and Clyde" and for "Chinatown," 1114 00:48:05,635 --> 00:48:09,097 and an actor that Sidney Lumet and Paddy Chayefsky 1115 00:48:09,097 --> 00:48:11,683 wanted very badly for this part. 1116 00:48:11,683 --> 00:48:14,352 This was essentially a lone woman 1117 00:48:14,352 --> 00:48:17,022 working in a male-dominated industry 1118 00:48:17,022 --> 00:48:19,357 who really had power and control, 1119 00:48:19,357 --> 00:48:22,444 and was seeking more power in her department. 1120 00:48:22,444 --> 00:48:26,031 I'm talking about a six dollar cost per thousand show. 1121 00:48:26,031 --> 00:48:29,034 I'm talking about 100, 130,000 dollar-minutes! 1122 00:48:29,034 --> 00:48:31,036 Do you wanna figure out the revenues of a strip show 1123 00:48:31,036 --> 00:48:33,038 that sells for 100,000 bucks a minute? 1124 00:48:33,038 --> 00:48:34,831 One show like that could pull this whole network 1125 00:48:34,831 --> 00:48:36,833 right out of the hole! Now, Frank, 1126 00:48:36,833 --> 00:48:38,209 it's being handed to us on a plate. 1127 00:48:38,209 --> 00:48:40,837 - Let's not blow it. 1128 00:48:40,837 --> 00:48:43,465 Women can be powerful, and when they become powerful, 1129 00:48:43,465 --> 00:48:45,508 power corrupts. 1130 00:48:45,508 --> 00:48:47,844 And she proved the point. 1131 00:48:47,844 --> 00:48:49,387 Talk about equality for women, 1132 00:48:49,387 --> 00:48:51,556 she could be as mean and single-minded 1133 00:48:51,556 --> 00:48:54,351 and devastating as any man. 1134 00:48:54,351 --> 00:48:57,145 And you know what? It was kind of exciting to see that 1135 00:48:57,145 --> 00:48:59,022 as a young woman starting out. 1136 00:48:59,022 --> 00:49:01,483 I've heard it said by women who have seen "Network" 1137 00:49:01,483 --> 00:49:04,361 that the, uh, character you created in the picture, 1138 00:49:04,361 --> 00:49:07,405 uh, might set the woman's movement back 50 years. 1139 00:49:07,405 --> 00:49:09,199 I have a very definite opinion on that. 1140 00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:11,409 I think that for, for years, 1141 00:49:11,409 --> 00:49:13,661 uh, and I'm not actively involved in the movement, 1142 00:49:13,661 --> 00:49:15,288 God knows I'm for it, 1143 00:49:15,288 --> 00:49:18,124 um, but what we've been trying to get away from 1144 00:49:18,124 --> 00:49:21,294 is stereotypical women's roles that, 1145 00:49:21,294 --> 00:49:23,963 that reflect an inaccurate view of, 1146 00:49:23,963 --> 00:49:25,840 of what a woman really is. 1147 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,176 Now, you cannot then say, "Well, yes, 1148 00:49:28,176 --> 00:49:30,220 but she always has to be nice at the end." 1149 00:49:30,220 --> 00:49:32,138 - It's a kind of hypocrisy 1150 00:49:32,138 --> 00:49:34,307 which I don't think real feminists are gonna feel. 1151 00:49:34,307 --> 00:49:37,268 Now, my task, I felt the largest task I had, 1152 00:49:37,268 --> 00:49:40,814 I think, in this was to infuse the role 1153 00:49:40,814 --> 00:49:43,858 with some sense of what she is, in fact, 1154 00:49:43,858 --> 00:49:45,443 giving up and paying for it. 1155 00:49:45,443 --> 00:49:48,196 It was just very important to understand 1156 00:49:48,196 --> 00:49:51,282 the lengths to which she had developed 1157 00:49:51,282 --> 00:49:55,286 without normal human emotions and decency, 1158 00:49:55,286 --> 00:49:57,288 and there was a way somehow to let her soul, 1159 00:49:57,288 --> 00:49:59,290 or her lack of soul, seep through. 1160 00:49:59,290 --> 00:50:00,834 And the moment I think that happened 1161 00:50:00,834 --> 00:50:02,836 was with William Holden at the end 1162 00:50:02,836 --> 00:50:05,213 where we're splitting up. 1163 00:50:05,213 --> 00:50:08,508 What exactly is it you want me to do? 1164 00:50:08,925 --> 00:50:11,553 I just want you to love me. 1165 00:50:13,138 --> 00:50:16,725 I just want you to love me, primal doubts and all. 1166 00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:20,937 I don't know how to do that. 1167 00:50:21,354 --> 00:50:23,898 I mean, that's the look. It's... 1168 00:50:23,898 --> 00:50:25,608 "I can't. 1169 00:50:27,068 --> 00:50:28,528 Just can't." 1170 00:50:28,528 --> 00:50:30,321 I don't want your pain. 1171 00:50:30,321 --> 00:50:32,449 I don't want your menopause or decay and death! 1172 00:50:32,449 --> 00:50:35,326 - I don't need you, Max! Now, get out of-- - You need me! 1173 00:50:36,036 --> 00:50:37,662 You need me badly. 1174 00:50:37,662 --> 00:50:39,789 You know, she was tragic, in my view. 1175 00:50:40,081 --> 00:50:43,335 And that look, that's a lost person in hell. 1176 00:50:44,919 --> 00:50:46,504 And she's not gonna get out. 1177 00:50:52,093 --> 00:50:54,179 And the winner is... 1178 00:50:55,347 --> 00:50:57,932 Faye Dunaway in "Network." 1179 00:51:07,150 --> 00:51:09,194 Well, I didn't expect this to happen quite yet, 1180 00:51:09,194 --> 00:51:12,030 but I do thank you very much, and I'm very grateful. 1181 00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:15,450 I would like especially to thank Sidney Lumet, 1182 00:51:15,450 --> 00:51:18,536 Paddy Chayefsky, Howard Gottfried, 1183 00:51:18,536 --> 00:51:20,872 uh, Danny Melnick, 1184 00:51:20,872 --> 00:51:23,667 and the great generosity 1185 00:51:23,667 --> 00:51:27,545 of a rare group of actors, company of actors, 1186 00:51:27,545 --> 00:51:30,840 in particular William Holden, Robert Duval, 1187 00:51:31,508 --> 00:51:34,511 - and Peter Finch. Thank you. 1188 00:51:51,236 --> 00:51:53,113 Oh, that's wonderful. Oh! 1189 00:51:53,113 --> 00:51:56,908 And they set it up so everyone can, like, partake in it. 1190 00:51:56,908 --> 00:51:58,410 Oh, that's amazing. 1191 00:51:58,410 --> 00:52:00,704 - Margaret Roth: That is so cool. 1192 00:52:01,496 --> 00:52:02,580 Ah... 1193 00:52:02,580 --> 00:52:04,874 Couple more. Maybe you're looking, just like that. 1194 00:52:06,334 --> 00:52:08,294 Thirty minutes from now, there are gonna be 1195 00:52:08,294 --> 00:52:11,381 a few hundred people in here to welcome Faye Dunaway to 1196 00:52:11,715 --> 00:52:15,051 probably the most exhaustive career retrospective 1197 00:52:15,051 --> 00:52:17,262 of her ex-husband Terry O'Neill. 1198 00:52:17,262 --> 00:52:21,099 And, of course, perhaps the greatest shot of his career, 1199 00:52:21,516 --> 00:52:24,978 Faye Dunaway, the morning after she won her Oscar. 1200 00:52:26,938 --> 00:52:28,606 My dad was a photographer. 1201 00:52:28,606 --> 00:52:29,774 He was born in England, 1202 00:52:29,774 --> 00:52:32,235 so he was just an English guy through and through. 1203 00:52:32,235 --> 00:52:35,238 I guess his specialty was putting someone in a place, 1204 00:52:35,238 --> 00:52:38,116 letting that person be themselves, 1205 00:52:38,116 --> 00:52:39,659 and then taking the picture 1206 00:52:39,659 --> 00:52:41,995 because it directly represents them 1207 00:52:41,995 --> 00:52:44,539 instead of someone just setting it up. 1208 00:52:44,539 --> 00:52:46,332 I have a funny picture that no one's ever seen 1209 00:52:46,332 --> 00:52:48,418 - that I took with, uh, Dad. - What? 1210 00:52:48,418 --> 00:52:50,170 Before he died, we were visiting 1211 00:52:50,170 --> 00:52:53,048 the Beverly Hills Hotel, and there's this huge sign 1212 00:52:53,048 --> 00:52:54,632 on the pool that says 1213 00:52:54,632 --> 00:52:57,427 -"No photography in the pool area." 1214 00:52:57,427 --> 00:52:59,679 And I got Dad to, like, stand by the sign, 1215 00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:02,307 and just kinda do one of those things holding a camera. 1216 00:53:02,307 --> 00:53:03,975 - It was just a great, great photo. - That's lovely. 1217 00:53:03,975 --> 00:53:06,102 I always called Terry a journalist with a camera, 1218 00:53:06,102 --> 00:53:07,437 not a pen. 1219 00:53:07,437 --> 00:53:09,647 You know, he needed a photograph that told a story. 1220 00:53:09,647 --> 00:53:11,566 And he did that with that photograph. 1221 00:53:11,566 --> 00:53:15,153 He actually persuaded a major Hollywood star, 1222 00:53:15,153 --> 00:53:17,530 on the night that she collects her Oscar, 1223 00:53:17,530 --> 00:53:20,450 to be poolside at 6:00 a.m. the next morning. 1224 00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:22,994 - And he took 12 shots, 1225 00:53:22,994 --> 00:53:26,331 and off she went to bed again. It took 15 minutes. 1226 00:53:26,331 --> 00:53:28,333 It, many times, has been described 1227 00:53:28,333 --> 00:53:31,044 as probably the greatest Hollywood shot of all time. 1228 00:53:31,044 --> 00:53:34,422 And it was very indicative of Terry's need to tell a story. 1229 00:53:35,090 --> 00:53:38,343 He said, "The morning after you're gonna wake up, 1230 00:53:38,343 --> 00:53:41,471 and your life will have changed dramatically." 1231 00:53:42,055 --> 00:53:43,348 When my parents met, 1232 00:53:43,348 --> 00:53:45,725 my mom was married to Peter Wolf, 1233 00:53:45,725 --> 00:53:49,396 who was a rock star in the J. Geils Band. 1234 00:53:49,396 --> 00:53:52,440 My dad was also married to a lady named Vera 1235 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,526 who was an actress-slash-model. 1236 00:53:54,526 --> 00:53:57,112 They were both married, both in relationships, 1237 00:53:57,112 --> 00:53:59,614 and they just kind of sparked this interest. 1238 00:53:59,614 --> 00:54:02,784 I mean, I think that's how it works most of the time, right? 1239 00:54:02,784 --> 00:54:04,703 Terry was taking photographs of me, 1240 00:54:04,703 --> 00:54:07,038 and we kind of started to get to know each other 1241 00:54:07,038 --> 00:54:08,289 and like each other. 1242 00:54:08,289 --> 00:54:10,333 Things had not been working out with Peter 1243 00:54:10,333 --> 00:54:11,876 in terms of what we truly want. 1244 00:54:11,876 --> 00:54:13,712 He was younger than I was, 1245 00:54:13,712 --> 00:54:16,715 and we didn't want the same things anymore. 1246 00:54:16,715 --> 00:54:18,550 And so, I ended it. 1247 00:54:18,550 --> 00:54:20,760 It was hard because I had to kind of give him 1248 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,638 the papers by surprise. 1249 00:54:23,638 --> 00:54:25,390 But, more than that, I did want to have a child, 1250 00:54:25,390 --> 00:54:27,183 as part of a woman's experience. 1251 00:54:27,183 --> 00:54:28,727 Look at that. 1252 00:54:28,727 --> 00:54:30,061 Little... little baby pictures. 1253 00:54:30,061 --> 00:54:33,898 Yeah. This one. This is great. This was way early on. 1254 00:54:33,898 --> 00:54:36,568 "Who's the best boy in the world?" I used to say. 1255 00:54:36,568 --> 00:54:39,946 And he would say, "Me, me." It's so nice. 1256 00:54:41,906 --> 00:54:45,201 I wanted you to talk to us about being a mom. 1257 00:54:45,201 --> 00:54:47,037 Oh, God. 1258 00:54:47,037 --> 00:54:50,582 There is nothing that's more, more important to me. 1259 00:54:50,582 --> 00:54:53,710 I don't know why. I was most important to my mother. 1260 00:54:53,710 --> 00:54:57,714 She had her heart set always on having a child, 1261 00:54:57,714 --> 00:54:59,841 and she planned for it, and I don't know whether 1262 00:54:59,841 --> 00:55:03,094 I got that from her as I was growing up... 1263 00:55:03,094 --> 00:55:05,430 I-- It meant very much to me. 1264 00:55:05,805 --> 00:55:08,933 And there came a moment where the work had taken over 1265 00:55:08,933 --> 00:55:11,728 to the point where it was too late, really, 1266 00:55:11,728 --> 00:55:14,898 for me to have a child in a biological sense. 1267 00:55:14,898 --> 00:55:17,650 So, I found my son, Liam, 1268 00:55:17,650 --> 00:55:20,195 and I adopted him with Terry, 1269 00:55:20,195 --> 00:55:21,780 and I was overjoyed, really, 1270 00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:23,531 when it evolved the way that it did 1271 00:55:23,531 --> 00:55:25,575 because I certainly know 1272 00:55:25,575 --> 00:55:29,537 that he's everything to me. Everything. 1273 00:55:29,537 --> 00:55:32,332 I never care to discuss my adoption with my parents. 1274 00:55:32,332 --> 00:55:34,250 And my mom doesn't like to talk about it, 1275 00:55:34,250 --> 00:55:37,128 especially in a business where everyone is in your business, 1276 00:55:37,128 --> 00:55:39,130 or likes to think that they can be in your business. 1277 00:55:39,130 --> 00:55:42,801 So I think that that's one of things she kept to herself 1278 00:55:42,801 --> 00:55:45,136 and didn't want everyone else knowing. 1279 00:55:45,136 --> 00:55:47,555 I wanted that to be private and personal, 1280 00:55:47,555 --> 00:55:50,517 and I didn't want it to be out there in all the world. 1281 00:55:50,517 --> 00:55:52,602 And I wanted to keep him safe. 1282 00:55:52,602 --> 00:55:54,813 That was my major priority. 1283 00:55:54,813 --> 00:55:57,774 And people still want to pry about it and talk about it 1284 00:55:57,774 --> 00:55:59,818 and I don't see the point in that. 1285 00:55:59,818 --> 00:56:02,987 And I don't choose to reveal everything to people. 1286 00:56:03,238 --> 00:56:05,824 I was less than a week old when I was adopted. 1287 00:56:05,824 --> 00:56:06,866 And to this day, I mean, 1288 00:56:06,866 --> 00:56:08,785 I don't know who my biological parents were, 1289 00:56:08,785 --> 00:56:10,829 my birth mother, that's what you call it. 1290 00:56:10,829 --> 00:56:15,250 But, to me, it's like a parent is the person who raised you. 1291 00:56:15,250 --> 00:56:16,584 So, for me, 1292 00:56:16,584 --> 00:56:18,336 you grow up with your parents. They're your parents 1293 00:56:18,336 --> 00:56:19,838 your whole life. There's no one else. 1294 00:56:30,348 --> 00:56:31,641 My parents were married. 1295 00:56:31,641 --> 00:56:34,019 They did actually get married in 1983, 1296 00:56:34,019 --> 00:56:36,354 three years after I was born. 1297 00:56:36,354 --> 00:56:37,689 And I grew up 1298 00:56:37,689 --> 00:56:41,568 and I split time between London and New York City. 1299 00:56:41,568 --> 00:56:43,403 My mom had a place in New York City, 1300 00:56:43,403 --> 00:56:44,863 300 Central Park West, 1301 00:56:44,863 --> 00:56:48,700 and my dad had a place in London right behind Harrods. 1302 00:57:14,851 --> 00:57:17,228 I just remember it always being busy. 1303 00:57:17,228 --> 00:57:19,773 There were always people there. There were always people 1304 00:57:19,773 --> 00:57:21,566 hanging out, having a good time, 1305 00:57:21,566 --> 00:57:23,401 lots of laughing. 1306 00:57:23,401 --> 00:57:24,736 It was odd because we would have people 1307 00:57:24,736 --> 00:57:26,237 come to the house to do things. 1308 00:57:26,237 --> 00:57:28,740 You know, instead of people going out to get a haircut, 1309 00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:32,327 they would come into my house, give me a haircut, because, 1310 00:57:32,327 --> 00:57:34,746 back then, they were the megastars. 1311 00:57:34,746 --> 00:57:36,748 They couldn't just take their kids to the park. 1312 00:57:36,748 --> 00:57:39,084 You can't do those normal activities 1313 00:57:39,084 --> 00:57:41,753 without getting hounded by people, much like today. 1314 00:57:41,753 --> 00:57:44,756 Many years ago, Joan Crawford told a reporter 1315 00:57:44,756 --> 00:57:47,592 that of all the young actresses on the way up, 1316 00:57:47,592 --> 00:57:50,261 only one had the makings of a true star, 1317 00:57:50,261 --> 00:57:51,763 and that was Faye Dunaway. 1318 00:57:51,763 --> 00:57:54,933 -This is stuff that Dad took... -What? Tell me. 1319 00:57:54,933 --> 00:57:58,019 ...that are Polaroids that no one's ever seen before. 1320 00:57:58,019 --> 00:58:00,271 - And that we have about-- - Oh, my God. 1321 00:58:00,271 --> 00:58:02,107 Yeah. We have about 20 pages of ‘em. 1322 00:58:02,107 --> 00:58:03,608 - You do? - Yeah. 1323 00:58:03,608 --> 00:58:05,360 - This is the Crawford stuff. - Yeah. 1324 00:58:05,819 --> 00:58:07,904 -Wow. -There's a funny story about-- 1325 00:58:07,904 --> 00:58:09,781 -Tell me. -Probably about 10 years ago. 1326 00:58:09,781 --> 00:58:11,741 We were looking through Dad's archive. 1327 00:58:11,741 --> 00:58:13,993 He said, "Whoa-whoa-whoa, wait. That picture's not mine. 1328 00:58:13,993 --> 00:58:15,829 "I never shot Joan Crawford. I never met her. 1329 00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:17,539 I never-- you know, anything like that." 1330 00:58:17,539 --> 00:58:19,582 And Robin had to stop him 1331 00:58:19,582 --> 00:58:21,793 and he was like, "No, no, no, that's Faye." 1332 00:58:21,793 --> 00:58:23,628 Like, it looked so realistic and everything 1333 00:58:23,628 --> 00:58:25,088 - and he was just like... -Yeah. 1334 00:58:25,088 --> 00:58:27,048 - Oh, that's wonderful. - Didn't even remember it. 1335 00:58:27,048 --> 00:58:30,051 Gene Shalit: Do you feel, in any way, a kinship 1336 00:58:30,051 --> 00:58:33,221 to Joan Crawford? Is she anything like you are? 1337 00:58:33,221 --> 00:58:35,890 Oh, I feel an enormous kinship. 1338 00:58:35,890 --> 00:58:37,767 Enormous. 1339 00:58:37,767 --> 00:58:40,645 Um, "Is she like me?" is a different question 1340 00:58:40,645 --> 00:58:43,273 because there are, I think, in me, 1341 00:58:43,273 --> 00:58:46,651 to be honest, some tendencies. I don't know. I'll have to-- 1342 00:58:46,651 --> 00:58:49,654 I've never completely examined that, but I can do that. 1343 00:58:49,654 --> 00:58:51,531 But, a kinship, yes. 1344 00:58:52,657 --> 00:58:54,242 We're ready for you, Miss Crawford. 1345 00:58:56,077 --> 00:58:58,621 Michael Koresky: Before "Mommie Dearest" and after "Mommie Dearest" 1346 00:58:58,621 --> 00:59:00,498 it's a different Faye Dunaway. 1347 00:59:00,498 --> 00:59:02,500 Let's go. 1348 00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:04,544 It's a different conception of Faye Dunaway. 1349 00:59:04,544 --> 00:59:07,922 Throughout the late '60s and throughout the '70s, 1350 00:59:07,922 --> 00:59:10,633 we're talking about one of the most respected actors working. 1351 00:59:10,633 --> 00:59:14,054 So, there's no reason to think that "Mommie Dearest" 1352 00:59:14,054 --> 00:59:18,016 would be anything other than a rich, serious film, 1353 00:59:18,016 --> 00:59:20,852 exploring the life of another Hollywood legend. 1354 00:59:20,852 --> 00:59:23,188 Come on. You've got everything you want. 1355 00:59:23,188 --> 00:59:25,273 No, I don't. I want a baby. 1356 00:59:25,273 --> 00:59:26,983 A baby? 1357 00:59:26,983 --> 00:59:28,193 Yeah. 1358 00:59:28,193 --> 00:59:31,404 There are moments in your life when things make sense 1359 00:59:31,404 --> 00:59:32,864 and it did at that time. 1360 00:59:32,864 --> 00:59:35,784 I'd just been married to Terry, just had a baby, 1361 00:59:35,784 --> 00:59:39,788 and, somehow, that was, financially, a good prospect. 1362 00:59:39,788 --> 00:59:43,208 It wasn't really, and it was the wrong thing for me to do, 1363 00:59:43,208 --> 00:59:45,293 but it was one of the mistakes. 1364 00:59:45,543 --> 00:59:47,212 - Darling? 1365 00:59:47,212 --> 00:59:50,298 Remember what I told you about adopted children? 1366 00:59:51,466 --> 00:59:53,718 Adopted children are luckiest 1367 00:59:53,718 --> 00:59:56,763 - because they were chosen. - That's right. 1368 00:59:56,763 --> 01:00:00,141 I feel like "Mommie Dearest" was released 40 years too early. 1369 01:00:00,517 --> 01:00:02,560 Joan Crawford, her passing 1370 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,563 was so recent when that book was published. 1371 01:00:05,563 --> 01:00:07,482 Christina Crawford was the first person 1372 01:00:07,482 --> 01:00:09,401 to ever write a tell-all book 1373 01:00:09,401 --> 01:00:11,903 about this Hollywood star 1374 01:00:11,903 --> 01:00:15,115 and what life was like behind that glitzy curtain. 1375 01:00:16,032 --> 01:00:19,411 I don't want her growing up a spoiled Hollywood brat 1376 01:00:19,411 --> 01:00:21,162 just because she's Crawford's daughter. 1377 01:00:21,162 --> 01:00:24,082 Nobody had ever really talked about those skeletons 1378 01:00:24,082 --> 01:00:26,001 because Hollywood actors and actresses, 1379 01:00:26,001 --> 01:00:29,587 they were so protected, and they were just idolized 1380 01:00:29,587 --> 01:00:32,298 as perfect human beings. 1381 01:00:32,298 --> 01:00:33,883 Now, we talk about mental illness. 1382 01:00:33,883 --> 01:00:35,593 Now, we talk about child abuse. 1383 01:00:35,593 --> 01:00:37,804 Back then, it wasn't talked about. 1384 01:00:37,804 --> 01:00:39,264 And to have this book come out 1385 01:00:39,264 --> 01:00:42,600 - that just reveals all of it was overwhelming. - Ow! 1386 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,102 - You be quiet! 1387 01:00:44,102 --> 01:00:46,187 You're always rummaging through my drawers, 1388 01:00:46,187 --> 01:00:47,939 trying to find a way to make people look at you! 1389 01:00:47,939 --> 01:00:50,108 Why are you always looking at yourself in the mirror? 1390 01:00:50,108 --> 01:00:51,860 Roger Ebert: Faye Dunaway is uncanny 1391 01:00:51,860 --> 01:00:53,278 in her performance as Crawford. 1392 01:00:53,278 --> 01:00:55,697 It's like watching a ghost to see her on the screen. 1393 01:00:55,697 --> 01:00:56,948 But, "Mommie Dearest" is basically 1394 01:00:56,948 --> 01:00:59,951 just a pointless record of neurotic child abuse. 1395 01:00:59,951 --> 01:01:02,787 One of the most depressing films in a long time. 1396 01:01:02,787 --> 01:01:04,456 I agree with you. Well-made, but depressing. 1397 01:01:04,456 --> 01:01:06,458 The way the film has been structured, you sit there 1398 01:01:06,458 --> 01:01:07,667 and wait for the beating scenes. 1399 01:01:07,667 --> 01:01:09,336 And when you're in the audience thinking that, 1400 01:01:09,336 --> 01:01:10,962 you sort of feel lousy. 1401 01:01:10,962 --> 01:01:13,631 Everybody wants to make fun of her for "Mommie Dearest," 1402 01:01:13,631 --> 01:01:15,550 but you tell me how you play that part. 1403 01:01:15,550 --> 01:01:18,553 And ask yourselves, was it Faye, 1404 01:01:18,553 --> 01:01:22,140 or was it the way they shot the scene? 1405 01:01:22,140 --> 01:01:25,268 That wasn't Faye Dunaway's error. 1406 01:01:25,268 --> 01:01:27,687 The joke is on the director. 1407 01:01:27,687 --> 01:01:29,898 The joke is not on the artist. 1408 01:01:29,898 --> 01:01:33,818 And if the director puts the artist in that position, 1409 01:01:34,736 --> 01:01:36,446 shame on the director. 1410 01:01:36,446 --> 01:01:39,324 Don't fuck with me, fellas! 1411 01:01:40,575 --> 01:01:43,244 This ain't my first time at the rodeo. 1412 01:01:43,244 --> 01:01:46,164 Frank Perry: The woman lived her life almost as grand opera. 1413 01:01:46,164 --> 01:01:49,501 She was performing while she was having these rages, 1414 01:01:49,501 --> 01:01:51,461 in my judgment at least, and, uh, 1415 01:01:51,461 --> 01:01:54,339 and so those were conscious choices. 1416 01:01:54,339 --> 01:01:55,924 I would do 'em again. 1417 01:01:55,924 --> 01:01:58,968 Frank Perry didn't help me shape the scenes. 1418 01:01:58,968 --> 01:02:01,012 I wish he had come in and said, "Come on, Faye, 1419 01:02:01,012 --> 01:02:02,972 that's too far. Come on. Pull it back." 1420 01:02:02,972 --> 01:02:04,808 I mean, I'm a professional. I would've done that. 1421 01:02:04,808 --> 01:02:07,018 But, I got engrossed in trying to achieve 1422 01:02:07,018 --> 01:02:09,771 what the script seemed to be requiring of me. 1423 01:02:09,771 --> 01:02:12,691 And it might've kicked into my bipolar, 1424 01:02:12,691 --> 01:02:16,027 this mania, this irritation, this mood swing. 1425 01:02:16,611 --> 01:02:20,865 Carol Ann! I asked you to keep the children quiet today! 1426 01:02:21,491 --> 01:02:25,286 Now, for Christ's sake, get them out of the garden! 1427 01:02:25,286 --> 01:02:26,121 I'm sorry, Joan. 1428 01:02:26,121 --> 01:02:29,416 She was scary. She's frightening. 1429 01:02:29,416 --> 01:02:32,377 I was on the edge of my seat sometimes, thinking, 1430 01:02:32,377 --> 01:02:33,670 "Am I gonna get fired?" 1431 01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:35,672 And Frank would remind me, 1432 01:02:35,672 --> 01:02:37,674 "Don't do this, or you're gonna get fired," 1433 01:02:37,674 --> 01:02:39,467 from the beginning! "Don't look so good, 1434 01:02:39,467 --> 01:02:40,969 "or I'm gonna have to fire you, 1435 01:02:40,969 --> 01:02:42,929 and I have no control over this." 1436 01:02:42,929 --> 01:02:45,140 So, who was in charge? 1437 01:02:45,140 --> 01:02:46,975 I mean, it's a terrible way to work, 1438 01:02:46,975 --> 01:02:50,645 thinking you're gonna get fired at any time. 1439 01:02:52,063 --> 01:02:54,190 Rutanya Alda said that there was 1440 01:02:54,190 --> 01:02:56,484 like a fearfulness of me on the set. 1441 01:02:56,484 --> 01:02:57,652 Well, that's because the character 1442 01:02:57,652 --> 01:02:59,654 was written fearful, I suppose. 1443 01:02:59,654 --> 01:03:03,241 But I don't recall bad things with Rutanya. 1444 01:03:03,241 --> 01:03:05,618 You know, sometimes I guess I've been unkind to people 1445 01:03:05,618 --> 01:03:07,287 or seemingly cruel. 1446 01:03:07,287 --> 01:03:10,832 I haven't meant to be, and it's not in my nature to be. 1447 01:03:10,832 --> 01:03:12,751 I don't willfully want to be. 1448 01:03:12,751 --> 01:03:14,419 I'm sort of led by 1449 01:03:14,419 --> 01:03:17,505 extremes of nature sometimes, I suppose. 1450 01:03:17,505 --> 01:03:22,594 No... wire... hangers! 1451 01:03:24,095 --> 01:03:26,598 What's wire hangers doing in this closet 1452 01:03:26,598 --> 01:03:28,433 when I told you, 1453 01:03:28,433 --> 01:03:32,228 no wire hangers ever?! 1454 01:03:32,228 --> 01:03:35,899 Mara Hobel: There were quite a few takes of that particular scene. 1455 01:03:35,899 --> 01:03:37,359 I do remember a lot of coverage on Faye Dunaway 1456 01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:40,195 because of that incredible mask she was wearing, 1457 01:03:40,195 --> 01:03:43,073 and the lighting and those eyes with that makeup. 1458 01:03:43,073 --> 01:03:46,284 You live in the most beautiful house in Brentwood, 1459 01:03:46,284 --> 01:03:49,287 - and you don't care... - Mommie! 1460 01:03:49,287 --> 01:03:52,374 ...if your clothes look hunchbacked from wire hangers?! 1461 01:03:52,374 --> 01:03:55,710 - Mara Hobel was the little girl that I had to hit, 1462 01:03:55,710 --> 01:03:59,381 and I was crazy worried about it 1463 01:03:59,381 --> 01:04:00,799 and very sympathetic. 1464 01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:02,717 And I tried to make sure she was alright, 1465 01:04:02,717 --> 01:04:04,719 and that we had done it in such a way 1466 01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:06,638 that she didn't actually get hurt. 1467 01:04:06,638 --> 01:04:09,224 It was a difficult role. Very difficult. 1468 01:04:09,224 --> 01:04:10,809 Tina! 1469 01:04:12,811 --> 01:04:14,396 Bring me the axe! 1470 01:04:15,897 --> 01:04:18,400 I never felt afraid 1471 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,985 during any of our physical scenes together. 1472 01:04:20,985 --> 01:04:23,238 I trusted her immensely. 1473 01:04:23,655 --> 01:04:26,366 She was incredible to me. 1474 01:04:26,366 --> 01:04:29,703 It makes me sad that she... 1475 01:04:29,703 --> 01:04:32,997 doesn't have fond memories of... 1476 01:04:33,832 --> 01:04:36,292 doing "Mommie Dearest" because I loved it. 1477 01:04:36,292 --> 01:04:37,794 At the time it came out, 1478 01:04:37,794 --> 01:04:39,170 it was perceived as a disaster 1479 01:04:39,170 --> 01:04:41,047 and it was something that Faye Dunaway 1480 01:04:41,047 --> 01:04:42,632 had a really hard time 1481 01:04:42,632 --> 01:04:44,676 rebounding from, for a very long time. 1482 01:04:45,051 --> 01:04:47,220 You have to give Pauline Kael credit 1483 01:04:47,220 --> 01:04:49,889 for being one of the few critics of the time 1484 01:04:49,889 --> 01:04:52,183 to really take that movie seriously 1485 01:04:52,183 --> 01:04:53,601 and I always remember the line 1486 01:04:53,601 --> 01:04:56,604 that Pauline Kael wrote in the "New Yorker" which is, 1487 01:04:56,604 --> 01:04:59,774 "You can laugh at the movie, but you can't laugh at her." 1488 01:04:59,774 --> 01:05:02,235 That performance by Faye Dunaway, 1489 01:05:02,235 --> 01:05:07,198 it absolutely should've been her next Oscar nomination. 1490 01:05:08,825 --> 01:05:11,161 Rutanya Alda: I actually paid money to see it 1491 01:05:11,161 --> 01:05:13,705 on one of the big theaters on Broadway 1492 01:05:13,705 --> 01:05:16,708 when it opened. The theater was full. 1493 01:05:16,708 --> 01:05:18,877 And then, people started laughing. 1494 01:05:18,877 --> 01:05:22,422 And laughing and laughing and I went, 1495 01:05:22,422 --> 01:05:26,426 "Whoa." I-I-I was shocked. I didn't expect that. 1496 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,888 But they thoroughly enjoyed the movie. 1497 01:05:29,888 --> 01:05:31,264 They loved the movie. 1498 01:05:31,514 --> 01:05:35,143 They loved it in a whole other way as it's become. 1499 01:05:35,143 --> 01:05:37,520 "Mommie Dearest" has a life of its own 1500 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,191 that has legs that no one expected. 1501 01:05:41,191 --> 01:05:42,400 The film is now being shown 1502 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,194 at a lot of places at midnight, 1503 01:05:44,194 --> 01:05:46,738 like "Rocky Horror Picture Show," you know? 1504 01:05:46,738 --> 01:05:48,031 And that's wonderful. 1505 01:05:48,156 --> 01:05:51,117 Kids come, apparently, and bring hangers and cleanser 1506 01:05:51,117 --> 01:05:53,411 and talk to the screen and... 1507 01:05:53,411 --> 01:05:55,413 - Gene Shalit: It's gonna get to be a cult film. - Well, 1508 01:05:55,413 --> 01:05:58,083 that would be wonderful, I think. 1509 01:05:58,083 --> 01:06:00,126 Throughout these 40 years, 1510 01:06:00,126 --> 01:06:02,087 it's so interesting that one film can evoke 1511 01:06:02,087 --> 01:06:05,173 such a different reaction out of everyone. 1512 01:06:05,173 --> 01:06:08,176 You know, some people see it as this over-the-top, 1513 01:06:08,176 --> 01:06:10,261 outrageous, campy comedy. 1514 01:06:10,261 --> 01:06:15,058 What's wire hangers doing in this closet?! 1515 01:06:15,058 --> 01:06:17,686 I can see that side of that. I absolutely can. 1516 01:06:17,686 --> 01:06:20,105 On the other hand, I've also have had people that have come up to me 1517 01:06:20,105 --> 01:06:21,940 and said that they started watching it 1518 01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:23,191 and had to shut it off 1519 01:06:23,191 --> 01:06:25,318 because it reminded them of their own childhood. 1520 01:06:25,318 --> 01:06:27,028 I've had people that have said to me, 1521 01:06:27,028 --> 01:06:29,447 "It gave me the courage to actually come forward 1522 01:06:29,447 --> 01:06:31,282 and say I was abused." 1523 01:06:31,282 --> 01:06:33,952 Do you feel you made some mistakes? 1524 01:06:33,952 --> 01:06:36,705 - The things you chose to do? -Mm... 1525 01:06:36,705 --> 01:06:40,250 I might take Crawford back. 1526 01:06:40,250 --> 01:06:44,254 But, I really wouldn't because I did like her so much. 1527 01:06:44,254 --> 01:06:48,091 The only reason is because she was very larger than life 1528 01:06:48,091 --> 01:06:51,803 and I wouldn't-- I don't want to be that myself. 1529 01:06:52,303 --> 01:06:54,305 And there's an inevitable tendency of people, 1530 01:06:54,305 --> 01:06:56,141 who both work in the industry 1531 01:06:56,141 --> 01:06:58,309 and, and the audience, to associate. 1532 01:06:58,309 --> 01:07:00,103 To think you're like the parts you play. 1533 01:07:00,395 --> 01:07:02,480 Life is hills and valleys sometimes. 1534 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,190 You're not always gonna be up there doing-- 1535 01:07:04,190 --> 01:07:06,818 making the right choices, being perfect. 1536 01:07:06,818 --> 01:07:08,862 You're gonna have moments where you think, 1537 01:07:08,862 --> 01:07:10,947 "Why did I ever do that?" 1538 01:07:10,947 --> 01:07:12,991 So, that's something that 1539 01:07:12,991 --> 01:07:15,493 you can't control sometimes. 1540 01:07:15,785 --> 01:07:17,245 It is shocking, though, 1541 01:07:17,245 --> 01:07:21,249 to see that here was this person who was so iconic, 1542 01:07:21,249 --> 01:07:23,209 her characters were so linked 1543 01:07:23,209 --> 01:07:26,338 to this 10-year period of massive change. 1544 01:07:26,629 --> 01:07:30,592 And by the time the '80s came around, that was over. 1545 01:07:30,884 --> 01:07:33,678 The world is at last my oyster. 1546 01:07:33,678 --> 01:07:35,347 You know, you had the Reagan years. 1547 01:07:35,347 --> 01:07:37,265 It was a whole different ballgame 1548 01:07:37,265 --> 01:07:40,727 and where was the place for Faye Dunaway in that? 1549 01:07:40,727 --> 01:07:43,480 Look, I drink. 1550 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,441 When I drink, I move in a wrong direction. 1551 01:07:46,441 --> 01:07:48,735 My mom was an alcoholic. 1552 01:07:48,735 --> 01:07:50,195 She always used to say that 1553 01:07:50,195 --> 01:07:52,530 her drink of choice was just a gin martini. 1554 01:07:52,530 --> 01:07:55,200 And she would drink them, especially with William Alfred. 1555 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,659 They used to have martinis together. 1556 01:07:56,659 --> 01:07:58,661 She always jokes that, you know, on her deathbed, 1557 01:07:58,661 --> 01:08:00,997 she's like, "Just bring me a dry martini." 1558 01:08:00,997 --> 01:08:03,333 "One last one before I go out" kinda thing. 1559 01:08:03,333 --> 01:08:05,543 But, when I was growing up, I remember my mom 1560 01:08:05,543 --> 01:08:08,213 going to the alcohol treatment centers. 1561 01:08:08,213 --> 01:08:11,257 And then slowly over time, she got sober. 1562 01:08:11,257 --> 01:08:12,884 She got sobriety. 1563 01:08:12,884 --> 01:08:14,052 I mean, I went through a period 1564 01:08:14,052 --> 01:08:16,304 where I had problems with alcohol, 1565 01:08:16,304 --> 01:08:18,723 as did my father. It's an inherited thing. 1566 01:08:18,723 --> 01:08:22,811 I'm in program and have been for about 15 years. 1567 01:08:22,811 --> 01:08:24,562 And I knew what that was like 1568 01:08:24,562 --> 01:08:26,272 because it had been part of my experience 1569 01:08:26,272 --> 01:08:28,858 and that, I think, was helpful when I did "Barfly." 1570 01:08:28,858 --> 01:08:30,235 When you run off like this, 1571 01:08:30,235 --> 01:08:32,529 I feel like you're trying to get away from me. 1572 01:08:32,529 --> 01:08:35,323 - Mickey Rourke: Hey, baby. 1573 01:08:35,323 --> 01:08:37,283 I'm doin' this for us. 1574 01:08:37,283 --> 01:08:40,578 We'll be able to drink with class. 1575 01:08:40,578 --> 01:08:43,748 We don't have to be barflies right down to the grave. 1576 01:08:43,748 --> 01:08:45,667 I didn't wanna do the movie. 1577 01:08:45,917 --> 01:08:49,129 My grandfather, my uncle, 1578 01:08:49,671 --> 01:08:51,256 and my father 1579 01:08:51,256 --> 01:08:54,843 all drank themselves to death before they were 50. 1580 01:08:54,843 --> 01:08:58,304 You know, my father drank himself to death at 47, 1581 01:08:58,304 --> 01:09:00,432 and I met-- I only met him for the first time 1582 01:09:00,432 --> 01:09:02,308 the year before when he was 46. 1583 01:09:02,308 --> 01:09:04,185 So, I didn't wanna do a movie 1584 01:09:04,185 --> 01:09:08,606 where I was glorifying being an alcoholic. 1585 01:09:08,606 --> 01:09:12,777 And Barbet Schroeder chased me from New York to LA to London. 1586 01:09:12,777 --> 01:09:14,237 And then, when I met Faye, 1587 01:09:14,237 --> 01:09:16,781 it kinda changed my mind a little. 1588 01:09:16,781 --> 01:09:18,575 I was very in awe of her. 1589 01:09:18,575 --> 01:09:21,036 I was kind of a little intimidated, 1590 01:09:21,036 --> 01:09:22,579 and I don't get intimidated. 1591 01:09:22,579 --> 01:09:24,998 But, she'd been somebody I did look up to, 1592 01:09:24,998 --> 01:09:26,791 and I don't look up to very many. 1593 01:09:26,791 --> 01:09:31,004 I had never worked with anybody who was like a legendary hero. 1594 01:09:31,004 --> 01:09:33,298 I can't stand people. 1595 01:09:35,633 --> 01:09:37,260 I hate them. 1596 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,138 Oh, yeah? 1597 01:09:40,138 --> 01:09:43,099 What I would hear through the grapevine, 1598 01:09:43,099 --> 01:09:45,602 "We got Faye Dunaway and Mickey Rourke. 1599 01:09:45,602 --> 01:09:47,812 Which one of ‘em is gonna explode first?" 1600 01:09:47,812 --> 01:09:49,647 ‘Cause she had a bit of a reputation, 1601 01:09:49,647 --> 01:09:52,025 and I, I imagine I probably had one. 1602 01:09:52,025 --> 01:09:54,235 And people were waiting for... 1603 01:09:55,487 --> 01:09:58,448 that. And it never fuckin' happened. 1604 01:09:58,990 --> 01:10:01,034 Pour me one, then. 1605 01:10:01,618 --> 01:10:04,454 Deglamorizing is always interesting. You know? 1606 01:10:04,454 --> 01:10:07,332 You don't wanna play these queens forever. 1607 01:10:07,332 --> 01:10:09,417 And to get human, to get real, 1608 01:10:09,417 --> 01:10:11,336 and, you know, I was in very good hands 1609 01:10:11,336 --> 01:10:12,545 with Barbet Schroeder, the director. 1610 01:10:12,545 --> 01:10:14,089 Mickey Rourke was great to work with. 1611 01:10:14,089 --> 01:10:16,508 Very generous actor that I liked very much. 1612 01:10:16,508 --> 01:10:18,051 But, it was a chance for me to come back 1613 01:10:18,051 --> 01:10:20,387 in a vulnerable role as well. 1614 01:10:20,387 --> 01:10:22,305 I kept coming to set on the testing, 1615 01:10:22,305 --> 01:10:24,015 and Barbet Schroeder, who directed it, said, 1616 01:10:24,015 --> 01:10:26,518 "No, you still look too good. The hair's too good." 1617 01:10:26,518 --> 01:10:28,853 So, we had to keep working to bring it down. 1618 01:10:28,853 --> 01:10:31,189 It wasn't something that I normally do 1619 01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:33,191 but if it's right for the role, you wanna do it, 1620 01:10:33,191 --> 01:10:34,567 and you do do it. 1621 01:10:34,567 --> 01:10:36,528 You always start from reality, you know? 1622 01:10:36,528 --> 01:10:38,530 And I went, first of all, to a bar on 9th Avenue 1623 01:10:38,530 --> 01:10:40,573 where the world of the film existed, 1624 01:10:40,573 --> 01:10:41,700 down to the fights, everything. 1625 01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:43,535 And the humor, and the dancing... 1626 01:10:43,535 --> 01:10:46,037 But there was a woman there who was very, 1627 01:10:46,037 --> 01:10:47,706 ironically, very like Wanda. 1628 01:10:47,706 --> 01:10:50,083 She had a tragedy in her life that she never recovered from, 1629 01:10:50,083 --> 01:10:51,418 and yet she was very warm 1630 01:10:51,418 --> 01:10:53,044 and very funny and, you know, very touching. 1631 01:10:53,044 --> 01:10:56,798 When Faye got to the set, she was ready to go to work. 1632 01:10:57,382 --> 01:11:00,719 And so whatever I did, she was right fucking there. 1633 01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:02,262 And she was there. 1634 01:11:02,554 --> 01:11:05,056 I could see the wheels turning in her eyes, 1635 01:11:05,056 --> 01:11:06,516 in her expression, 1636 01:11:06,516 --> 01:11:08,935 in how she delivered her next line. 1637 01:11:08,935 --> 01:11:12,522 Nothing ever works right in this life. 1638 01:11:12,522 --> 01:11:13,732 She would always add 1639 01:11:13,732 --> 01:11:16,234 a little different twist to each take. 1640 01:11:16,234 --> 01:11:19,070 We call that working moment to moment. 1641 01:11:19,070 --> 01:11:20,739 It's alright. 1642 01:11:23,533 --> 01:11:25,410 Now, you knew Terry O'Neill. 1643 01:11:25,410 --> 01:11:26,995 Oh, I knew-- Terry and I were mates. 1644 01:11:26,995 --> 01:11:30,707 Terry was never afraid to speak what was on his mind 1645 01:11:30,707 --> 01:11:32,876 ‘cause he was just a regular guy. 1646 01:11:32,876 --> 01:11:34,336 I loved Terry. 1647 01:11:34,336 --> 01:11:35,879 How did you meet him? 1648 01:11:35,879 --> 01:11:38,256 When I met Faye, he was there at the house. 1649 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,760 They were just at the end of their relationship. 1650 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,762 -To be honest, 1651 01:11:43,762 --> 01:11:46,598 I don't remember my parents getting divorced. 1652 01:11:46,598 --> 01:11:48,600 You know, I was about 7 when they got divorced, 1653 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,270 so prior to their divorce, they had been living separately 1654 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,523 in London and New York for years. 1655 01:11:55,523 --> 01:11:58,109 So, we would kind of go back and forth 1656 01:11:58,109 --> 01:11:59,319 and my dad would come to New York, 1657 01:11:59,319 --> 01:12:01,112 or I would go to London with my mom. 1658 01:12:01,112 --> 01:12:05,116 But, it slowly kinda started to dissipate over time, 1659 01:12:05,116 --> 01:12:08,620 so I probably only saw my dad once or twice a year. 1660 01:12:08,620 --> 01:12:10,246 I would either go to London, 1661 01:12:10,246 --> 01:12:11,456 or if he was traveling to New York, 1662 01:12:11,456 --> 01:12:13,708 I would get to see him. So, I think, 1663 01:12:13,708 --> 01:12:16,419 even though they finally got divorced in '87, 1664 01:12:16,419 --> 01:12:19,964 I think it was over for a few years before that. 1665 01:12:20,715 --> 01:12:22,884 I don't know what contributed to the divorce. 1666 01:12:22,884 --> 01:12:25,595 He was English, and I didn't wanna live in England 1667 01:12:25,595 --> 01:12:27,055 completely. Not for full-time. 1668 01:12:27,055 --> 01:12:29,599 I love England, still. It's a great way of life. 1669 01:12:29,599 --> 01:12:30,975 But, at a certain moment, 1670 01:12:30,975 --> 01:12:34,145 I was Faye Dunaway, and I'm an American actress, 1671 01:12:34,145 --> 01:12:35,730 and there aren't many jobs 1672 01:12:35,730 --> 01:12:37,774 for an American actress in England. 1673 01:12:37,774 --> 01:12:41,444 And if I don't work, I don't feel at my best. 1674 01:12:41,444 --> 01:12:44,239 I just wanted to be back in my country 1675 01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:46,825 and performing in my way. 1676 01:12:47,826 --> 01:12:50,328 - Hi! 1677 01:12:50,328 --> 01:12:52,831 We're making Faye ready for Tel Aviv. 1678 01:12:52,831 --> 01:12:55,834 - She gonna look beautiful. 1679 01:12:55,834 --> 01:12:58,169 - You're touching your hair. - The ends of the hair. 1680 01:12:58,169 --> 01:12:59,421 hairdresser: Yeah, just like this. 1681 01:12:59,421 --> 01:13:01,923 - When I do this... -Okay, you got his hands? 1682 01:13:01,923 --> 01:13:03,008 speaker: Yes. 1683 01:13:03,008 --> 01:13:05,010 That's wonderful. 1684 01:13:05,719 --> 01:13:08,513 Tova Laiter: When it comes to actresses, 1685 01:13:08,513 --> 01:13:11,975 there was really a big difference 1686 01:13:11,975 --> 01:13:13,309 with male actor. 1687 01:13:13,309 --> 01:13:15,020 It's great. 1688 01:13:15,020 --> 01:13:16,229 This is great. 1689 01:13:16,646 --> 01:13:19,858 In fact, one of the biggest agents 1690 01:13:19,858 --> 01:13:21,484 once said to me, 1691 01:13:21,484 --> 01:13:23,528 he would rather represent men 1692 01:13:23,528 --> 01:13:27,282 because their career is longer than women. 1693 01:13:27,282 --> 01:13:31,077 Women, as they head into 40, 1694 01:13:31,077 --> 01:13:33,538 you're not old enough to play a grandmother, 1695 01:13:33,538 --> 01:13:35,081 and maybe now, 1696 01:13:35,081 --> 01:13:37,042 you're thinking that you're not young enough 1697 01:13:37,042 --> 01:13:39,586 to be a love interest. 1698 01:13:40,128 --> 01:13:41,296 I'm looking for roles 1699 01:13:41,296 --> 01:13:43,882 that just touch the real issues 1700 01:13:43,882 --> 01:13:47,093 and the real feelings that women have, 1701 01:13:47,093 --> 01:13:49,429 rather than this very covered up, controlled, 1702 01:13:49,429 --> 01:13:51,848 exterior kind of persona. 1703 01:13:51,848 --> 01:13:53,808 And I felt that, um, 1704 01:13:53,808 --> 01:13:55,560 you know, having lived in London for eight years 1705 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,229 and being away from my home, basically, 1706 01:13:58,229 --> 01:14:01,441 and I really was seeking and-- 1707 01:14:01,441 --> 01:14:04,861 I'm developing roles of my own, now that I'm producing. 1708 01:14:04,861 --> 01:14:08,406 I'm really looking for women that are funny, 1709 01:14:08,406 --> 01:14:10,200 are vulnerable, are complex, 1710 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,661 and that I have a chance to develop all of those areas. 1711 01:14:13,661 --> 01:14:16,414 I wanted to start to initiate my own projects, 1712 01:14:16,414 --> 01:14:19,751 and so I moved to California in that time. 1713 01:14:19,751 --> 01:14:23,380 I lived on Linda Crest Drive in Beverly Hills 1714 01:14:23,380 --> 01:14:25,298 with a white house, very pretty. 1715 01:14:25,298 --> 01:14:26,925 It has to do with producing, 1716 01:14:26,925 --> 01:14:28,468 you know, because this is a town 1717 01:14:28,468 --> 01:14:30,929 where, in fact, all the business actually takes place. 1718 01:14:30,929 --> 01:14:32,347 And I kind of find that interesting. 1719 01:14:32,347 --> 01:14:34,766 It's a, it's a community. 1720 01:14:34,766 --> 01:14:36,935 Kate Capshaw And now, our final presenter. 1721 01:14:36,935 --> 01:14:40,939 Please let me introduce the legendary Faye Dunaway. 1722 01:14:45,485 --> 01:14:47,112 There's a river of tradition 1723 01:14:47,112 --> 01:14:49,948 that runs through this industry, and through time, 1724 01:14:49,948 --> 01:14:52,992 of actresses who take on roles that challenge 1725 01:14:52,992 --> 01:14:56,788 the conventional wisdom about who a woman is. 1726 01:14:56,788 --> 01:14:59,249 And Sharon Stone has done that. 1727 01:14:59,582 --> 01:15:04,421 Sharon, I salute you, admire you, and love you. 1728 01:15:04,421 --> 01:15:06,923 I met Faye at a photo shoot, 1729 01:15:06,923 --> 01:15:08,800 pre the release of "Basic Instinct," 1730 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,427 doing all the press for it. 1731 01:15:10,427 --> 01:15:11,928 And I said, 1732 01:15:11,928 --> 01:15:14,973 "May I watch you do your photo shoot?" 1733 01:15:14,973 --> 01:15:18,101 And she said, "Sure, kid, just stay outta my eyeline." 1734 01:15:18,101 --> 01:15:20,437 So, I stayed off to the side, 1735 01:15:20,437 --> 01:15:24,441 and I watched her, and she was so good. 1736 01:15:24,441 --> 01:15:26,067 She was so professional, 1737 01:15:26,067 --> 01:15:29,154 and, I mean, she's just so beautiful. 1738 01:15:29,154 --> 01:15:30,655 And we really just hit it off. 1739 01:15:30,655 --> 01:15:32,032 She was just so willing 1740 01:15:32,032 --> 01:15:35,660 to allow me the opportunity to know her, 1741 01:15:35,660 --> 01:15:39,664 to learn from her, to understand her experience. 1742 01:15:39,664 --> 01:15:43,043 And she offered me a friendship 1743 01:15:43,043 --> 01:15:45,253 that I hadn't expected 1744 01:15:45,253 --> 01:15:47,172 from someone of her stature. 1745 01:15:47,172 --> 01:15:48,798 You always try to give back. 1746 01:15:48,798 --> 01:15:51,593 If you know what you're doing, you need to share it. 1747 01:15:51,593 --> 01:15:54,137 You need to give it back to the people that need it 1748 01:15:54,137 --> 01:15:56,765 and that deserve it. I feel strongly about that. 1749 01:15:56,765 --> 01:15:58,725 It was a good feeling to help Sharon 1750 01:15:58,725 --> 01:16:01,811 and we are still good friends to this day. 1751 01:16:01,811 --> 01:16:03,563 - I like the tent, 1752 01:16:03,563 --> 01:16:05,357 but wouldn't drapes have been simpler? 1753 01:16:05,357 --> 01:16:07,317 - We got termites. 1754 01:16:07,317 --> 01:16:08,735 But, you're a carpenter. 1755 01:16:08,735 --> 01:16:11,071 I guess they wanted a really well-built meal. 1756 01:16:12,238 --> 01:16:14,282 Robert Urich and I wanted to do a sitcom 1757 01:16:14,282 --> 01:16:17,994 called "It Had To Be You." It was my first venture, foray, 1758 01:16:17,994 --> 01:16:20,288 into this sitcom, which is comedy. 1759 01:16:20,288 --> 01:16:21,998 Which wasn't my cup of tea, really. 1760 01:16:21,998 --> 01:16:23,708 I mean, I'm not a comedic actress. 1761 01:16:23,708 --> 01:16:24,834 I'm a... 1762 01:16:24,834 --> 01:16:27,045 down and dirty, very dramatic actress. 1763 01:16:27,045 --> 01:16:29,172 But I wanted to have a try at it. 1764 01:16:29,172 --> 01:16:31,716 Chris Andrews: She was way ahead of the pack in saying, 1765 01:16:31,716 --> 01:16:33,051 "You know what? I wanna go do television. 1766 01:16:33,051 --> 01:16:35,845 "I wanna go do something commercial and funny, 1767 01:16:35,845 --> 01:16:37,889 "and have a place to go to work for, you know, 1768 01:16:37,889 --> 01:16:40,433 eight or nine months a year and then have my time off." 1769 01:16:40,433 --> 01:16:43,395 And she could go off and do something small and independent 1770 01:16:43,395 --> 01:16:44,604 and do something on television, 1771 01:16:44,604 --> 01:16:45,814 and she could go back to the theater, 1772 01:16:45,814 --> 01:16:47,273 but she had options. 1773 01:16:47,273 --> 01:16:49,734 But, when it came to films, I think she chose really well. 1774 01:16:49,734 --> 01:16:52,612 She makes this film with Emir Kusturica 1775 01:16:52,612 --> 01:16:54,406 called "Arizona Dream." 1776 01:16:54,406 --> 01:16:56,574 It is a surreal adventure 1777 01:16:56,574 --> 01:16:59,577 in which she costars with Johnny Depp. 1778 01:16:59,577 --> 01:17:02,831 And it's not implausible that his character 1779 01:17:02,831 --> 01:17:06,167 is romantically drawn to this older woman. 1780 01:17:06,167 --> 01:17:07,460 Johnny Depp is a prince, 1781 01:17:07,460 --> 01:17:09,337 and I worked with him twice. 1782 01:17:09,337 --> 01:17:11,464 First was "Arizona Dream," 1783 01:17:11,464 --> 01:17:12,674 and then after that, we did 1784 01:17:12,674 --> 01:17:15,760 "Don Juan DeMarco" with Marlon Brando. 1785 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,637 It was movies like "The Chamber" 1786 01:17:17,637 --> 01:17:19,931 with Gene Hackman and Chris O'Donnell, 1787 01:17:19,931 --> 01:17:22,726 and "Gia" with Angelina Jolie that was done for HBO 1788 01:17:22,726 --> 01:17:24,144 and she won the Golden Globe. 1789 01:17:24,144 --> 01:17:26,646 This means an enormous amount to me tonight, 1790 01:17:26,646 --> 01:17:28,106 and I was completely thrown 1791 01:17:28,106 --> 01:17:30,150 because I really didn't expect to win. 1792 01:17:30,150 --> 01:17:33,278 I... I don't know why. You know, I mean-- 1793 01:17:33,278 --> 01:17:35,655 But, the point is I'm really grateful that I did, 1794 01:17:35,655 --> 01:17:37,949 and it means a lot because I'm struggling, too. 1795 01:17:37,949 --> 01:17:40,744 And I'm trying-- I'm putting my own projects together. 1796 01:17:40,744 --> 01:17:43,955 By the '90s, you're getting a lot of younger filmmakers 1797 01:17:43,955 --> 01:17:45,623 who'd been through film school in the '80s, 1798 01:17:45,623 --> 01:17:47,459 and, of course, they've grown up, like I was, 1799 01:17:47,459 --> 01:17:49,210 on '70s films. 1800 01:17:49,210 --> 01:17:51,629 So, I'm sure James Gray is like, "Are you kidding me? 1801 01:17:51,629 --> 01:17:53,923 Like, I would get to direct Faye Dunaway?" 1802 01:17:53,923 --> 01:17:56,217 Don't you know what he does for Frank? 1803 01:17:57,635 --> 01:17:59,679 What? 1804 01:18:00,555 --> 01:18:03,391 How do you think he gets the money for all the things he buys you? 1805 01:18:03,391 --> 01:18:05,769 There were some actors in their 20s, 1806 01:18:05,769 --> 01:18:08,480 Mark Wahlberg, Charlize Theron, and Joaquin Phoenix, 1807 01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:11,191 and then there were the sort of older group of actors, 1808 01:18:11,191 --> 01:18:13,568 James Caan, Faye Dunaway, Ellen Burstyn, 1809 01:18:13,568 --> 01:18:15,987 who were the sort of '70s heroes that I had. 1810 01:18:15,987 --> 01:18:17,989 It was so great because I remember the younger actors 1811 01:18:17,989 --> 01:18:21,659 always looking to the older actor to learn something. 1812 01:18:21,659 --> 01:18:23,787 "The Yards" was unique 1813 01:18:23,787 --> 01:18:25,705 because it had, like, two generations 1814 01:18:25,705 --> 01:18:29,042 and so it was kind of a congregational sort of thing 1815 01:18:29,042 --> 01:18:32,003 where the two generations intermingled with each other. 1816 01:18:32,003 --> 01:18:35,674 Gray was a wonderful director, so that was a good experience. 1817 01:18:35,674 --> 01:18:37,008 It was incredibly intimidating, 1818 01:18:37,008 --> 01:18:39,719 but they were terrific with me. 1819 01:18:39,719 --> 01:18:42,514 Whatever reputation that she had in some ways 1820 01:18:42,514 --> 01:18:45,141 is also a comment on how women are, 1821 01:18:45,141 --> 01:18:48,019 in some ways, treated and judged 1822 01:18:48,019 --> 01:18:50,772 on a very different scale than men. 1823 01:18:51,064 --> 01:18:54,693 So yeah, her story is tremendously relevant. 1824 01:18:54,693 --> 01:18:56,695 She directed a short film 1825 01:18:56,695 --> 01:18:58,697 which I thought was quite good. "Yellow Bird." 1826 01:18:59,239 --> 01:19:01,616 It was adapted from Tennessee Williams, 1827 01:19:01,616 --> 01:19:03,827 Williams himself did the voiceover, 1828 01:19:03,827 --> 01:19:07,122 and it was shown at the 2001 Cannes Film Festival. 1829 01:19:07,122 --> 01:19:10,834 So, she wasn't just a screen divinity. 1830 01:19:10,834 --> 01:19:13,044 She was a hard-working stage actress, 1831 01:19:13,044 --> 01:19:16,047 a screen actress, a director of a short film, 1832 01:19:16,047 --> 01:19:18,174 and somebody who could play Maria Callas. 1833 01:19:18,174 --> 01:19:20,552 Tom Snyder: She is currently enjoying, uh, her role 1834 01:19:20,552 --> 01:19:21,845 in the stage play "Master Class" 1835 01:19:21,845 --> 01:19:24,180 at the Doolittle Theater here in Los Angeles 1836 01:19:24,180 --> 01:19:25,348 through July 13th. 1837 01:19:25,348 --> 01:19:27,642 Getting great reviews and standing ovations 1838 01:19:27,642 --> 01:19:29,436 when it comes to an end for the curtain call. 1839 01:19:29,436 --> 01:19:31,980 Faye, welcome back and thanks for coming to CBS. 1840 01:19:31,980 --> 01:19:35,233 "Master Class" is about, uh, the great Maria Callas, 1841 01:19:35,233 --> 01:19:37,986 when she taught voice at Juilliard. 1842 01:19:37,986 --> 01:19:40,697 Yes. There was a moment in her life, 1843 01:19:40,697 --> 01:19:42,365 late in her career, 1844 01:19:42,365 --> 01:19:43,575 early 50s she was, 1845 01:19:43,575 --> 01:19:46,119 where she held some held some very famous 1846 01:19:46,119 --> 01:19:48,955 and well-attended master classes at Juilliard. 1847 01:19:48,955 --> 01:19:50,999 And everybody from Tennessee Williams 1848 01:19:50,999 --> 01:19:53,543 to Leonard Bernstein was there. 1849 01:19:53,543 --> 01:19:57,756 No applause! We're here to work. 1850 01:19:57,756 --> 01:20:00,050 You're not in a theater. This is a classroom. 1851 01:20:00,050 --> 01:20:03,845 No folderol. This is a master class. 1852 01:20:04,179 --> 01:20:06,473 I saw the play in Los Angeles 1853 01:20:06,473 --> 01:20:08,558 when she was here, 1854 01:20:08,558 --> 01:20:10,977 and Faye transformed to that character. 1855 01:20:10,977 --> 01:20:13,730 ‘Cause if you look at both of them, they don't look alike. 1856 01:20:13,730 --> 01:20:17,108 But, on the stage, you saw Maria Callas. 1857 01:20:17,108 --> 01:20:19,277 So, she did the play to begin with, 1858 01:20:19,277 --> 01:20:21,946 and then she bought the rights after the play 1859 01:20:21,946 --> 01:20:23,448 to option and do the movie. 1860 01:20:23,448 --> 01:20:25,450 Isn't it tough to take something from the stage 1861 01:20:25,450 --> 01:20:26,743 and put it on the screen? 1862 01:20:26,743 --> 01:20:29,913 Not really. So many plays have become, "Crimes of the Heart..." 1863 01:20:29,913 --> 01:20:31,748 Oh, right. Uh, uh, "Driving Miss Daisy" became-- 1864 01:20:31,748 --> 01:20:33,541 "Driving Miss Daisy" was a great, great movie, 1865 01:20:33,541 --> 01:20:35,377 and it was-- I actually saw that on stage as well. 1866 01:20:35,377 --> 01:20:37,212 No, you-you do what's called "opening it up." 1867 01:20:37,212 --> 01:20:39,047 I think this movie probably oughta-- 1868 01:20:39,047 --> 01:20:41,591 definitely oughta stay very true to what McNally has written. 1869 01:20:41,591 --> 01:20:44,761 When it comes to work, my mom gets obsessed. 1870 01:20:44,761 --> 01:20:46,846 She wanted to tackle it all. 1871 01:20:46,846 --> 01:20:50,058 Writing it, directing it, and being in it, 1872 01:20:50,058 --> 01:20:51,393 playing Maria Callas. 1873 01:20:51,393 --> 01:20:56,106 A career in the theater demands total concentration. 1874 01:20:56,106 --> 01:20:58,900 100% detail. 1875 01:20:58,900 --> 01:21:00,819 The film eventually got some financing, 1876 01:21:00,819 --> 01:21:03,988 and they started shooting in Pontiac, Michigan 1877 01:21:03,988 --> 01:21:06,116 for two or three months, 1878 01:21:06,116 --> 01:21:07,367 and then they had to shut down 1879 01:21:07,367 --> 01:21:09,661 because the money was running out. 1880 01:21:09,661 --> 01:21:11,663 So, I came in and helped take over 1881 01:21:11,663 --> 01:21:13,248 all the things that needed to be done 1882 01:21:13,248 --> 01:21:16,001 to maybe kinda get the production back on track. 1883 01:21:16,001 --> 01:21:19,921 But, it was too far gone. The money just dried up. 1884 01:21:19,921 --> 01:21:23,341 As much as it was a passion project for her, 1885 01:21:23,341 --> 01:21:27,303 you have to be realistic at a certain point 1886 01:21:27,303 --> 01:21:28,763 and shut down. 1887 01:21:28,763 --> 01:21:30,807 Very devastating. 1888 01:21:30,807 --> 01:21:33,852 I was in pieces for quite some time. 1889 01:21:33,852 --> 01:21:37,230 You know, locked up in my room, going to analysis. 1890 01:21:37,230 --> 01:21:39,024 It's just when you have a dream like that, 1891 01:21:39,024 --> 01:21:40,650 and you've worked on it for so long, 1892 01:21:40,650 --> 01:21:44,237 I knew what-what it was about. I knew what she was about. 1893 01:21:44,237 --> 01:21:46,031 But, I wanted too much for myself. 1894 01:21:46,031 --> 01:21:48,700 I should have set it up and got a good director 1895 01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:49,993 and I would act in it. 1896 01:21:49,993 --> 01:21:51,870 But, I wanted too much at that time. 1897 01:21:51,870 --> 01:21:54,289 So, it was a mistake. 1898 01:22:03,381 --> 01:22:07,552 Eventually, you decided to move back to New York City. 1899 01:22:07,552 --> 01:22:09,387 What is it about New York? 1900 01:22:09,387 --> 01:22:11,389 Well, it's always been my city. 1901 01:22:11,389 --> 01:22:13,725 You know? I mean, I remember when I first hit New York 1902 01:22:13,725 --> 01:22:15,810 as a young Southern girl, you know, 1903 01:22:15,810 --> 01:22:18,897 and standing off that curb and putting your hand up for a taxi 1904 01:22:18,897 --> 01:22:20,190 and the pace of it. 1905 01:22:20,190 --> 01:22:22,817 You can't duplicate that anywhere. 1906 01:22:22,817 --> 01:22:24,611 And LA is much more laid back. 1907 01:22:24,611 --> 01:22:26,905 I like the energy of New York. 1908 01:22:26,905 --> 01:22:28,907 So, that's why I moved back. 1909 01:22:29,407 --> 01:22:31,618 My mom hadn't worked for a period of time, 1910 01:22:31,618 --> 01:22:34,913 and she really wanted to get back into it 1911 01:22:34,913 --> 01:22:36,164 ‘cause acting was her passion. 1912 01:22:36,164 --> 01:22:38,708 And my mom has always loved the theater. 1913 01:22:38,708 --> 01:22:39,959 That's, like, her first passion. 1914 01:22:39,959 --> 01:22:42,462 So, I presented the play "Tea at Five," 1915 01:22:42,462 --> 01:22:45,173 where my mom would be playing Katharine Hepburn. 1916 01:22:45,173 --> 01:22:48,927 And at first, she was very excited to do it. 1917 01:22:48,927 --> 01:22:50,970 I felt like I needed to do it 1918 01:22:50,970 --> 01:22:53,765 for the experience back on the stage, 1919 01:22:53,765 --> 01:22:56,017 but I didn't feel I was right for it 1920 01:22:56,017 --> 01:22:58,937 because Katharine Hepburn's New England, 1921 01:22:58,937 --> 01:23:00,146 and I'm from the South, 1922 01:23:00,146 --> 01:23:02,440 and so such a different sensibility 1923 01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:06,444 that I was worried about my being able to really play it. 1924 01:23:06,444 --> 01:23:08,780 And it began to make me more and more irritated. 1925 01:23:08,780 --> 01:23:10,782 And I, I'm pretty sure-- I know, 1926 01:23:10,782 --> 01:23:13,284 that was the bipolar kicking in. 1927 01:23:13,284 --> 01:23:15,954 It was one of those things where she didn't wanna quit, 1928 01:23:15,954 --> 01:23:17,831 but, at the same time, she didn't wanna do it. 1929 01:23:17,831 --> 01:23:21,626 Slowly, as the shows went on, she started losing her temper. 1930 01:23:21,626 --> 01:23:23,211 She started acting out. 1931 01:23:23,211 --> 01:23:25,463 Her demons kind of got a hold of her 1932 01:23:25,463 --> 01:23:28,174 and she was fired from it, and they cancelled it, 1933 01:23:28,174 --> 01:23:30,969 and it just-- That was that. 1934 01:23:31,386 --> 01:23:33,221 The erratic behavior. 1935 01:23:33,221 --> 01:23:37,225 That's down to these biological, physical realities. 1936 01:23:37,225 --> 01:23:39,811 It's the sensitivity, and it's something that... 1937 01:23:40,311 --> 01:23:42,272 is just a part of my makeup. 1938 01:23:42,272 --> 01:23:44,107 Thank God that there is medication 1939 01:23:44,107 --> 01:23:45,567 and there's-- there are studies 1940 01:23:45,567 --> 01:23:47,610 and there are doctors who deal with this. 1941 01:23:47,610 --> 01:23:50,363 And I've been able to benefit from that. 1942 01:23:50,363 --> 01:23:52,323 But, the medication is crucial, 1943 01:23:52,323 --> 01:23:54,743 and without it, you fall back into, you know, 1944 01:23:54,743 --> 01:23:57,954 what is there psychologically and biologically. 1945 01:23:58,955 --> 01:24:02,542 For me, I've dealt with that so much over my life. 1946 01:24:02,542 --> 01:24:05,003 I mean, even now, I can pick up the phone, 1947 01:24:05,003 --> 01:24:07,213 and if she's just a little bit off, I'm like, 1948 01:24:07,213 --> 01:24:09,466 "Have you taken your medicine today?" And she's like, 1949 01:24:09,466 --> 01:24:11,509 "Oh, I don't know. Lemme check. Oh, no, I haven't." 1950 01:24:11,509 --> 01:24:13,887 Now, for me, it's like pinpoint accuracy. 1951 01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:16,389 I'm much happier now. 1952 01:24:16,389 --> 01:24:18,224 I feel better about things, 1953 01:24:18,224 --> 01:24:20,268 and I, I think the better you feel, 1954 01:24:20,268 --> 01:24:24,022 the more you're gonna be able to do work that is meaningful. 1955 01:24:29,861 --> 01:24:33,948 I actually see Faye Dunaway from time to time 1956 01:24:33,948 --> 01:24:36,618 because we work out at the same gym. 1957 01:24:37,702 --> 01:24:39,996 So, I have seen her lately. 1958 01:24:39,996 --> 01:24:42,332 She works hard. She looks great. 1959 01:24:42,332 --> 01:24:45,251 She really does take seriously 1960 01:24:45,251 --> 01:24:47,253 taking care of herself 1961 01:24:47,253 --> 01:24:51,007 and looking, frankly, quite magnificent at her age. 1962 01:24:51,007 --> 01:24:53,051 Which is why I think that there's still more 1963 01:24:53,051 --> 01:24:56,012 that this legendary actress has to offer. 1964 01:24:59,557 --> 01:25:02,560 Since I was very young, we always went to Cannes. 1965 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,230 We went every single year. My mom loves Cannes. 1966 01:25:05,230 --> 01:25:07,774 She loves France. She loves the French people. 1967 01:25:07,774 --> 01:25:10,694 And she becomes like a whole different person when she's over there. 1968 01:25:10,694 --> 01:25:13,905 A lot happier, full of life, 1969 01:25:13,905 --> 01:25:16,866 and she was almost shocked 1970 01:25:16,866 --> 01:25:19,911 when they wanted her to be the face of Cannes. 1971 01:25:19,911 --> 01:25:21,413 It was the greatest honor for her 1972 01:25:21,413 --> 01:25:23,039 just because she just loves going over there. 1973 01:25:23,039 --> 01:25:24,165 This is my festival 1974 01:25:24,165 --> 01:25:26,626 that I always go to learn filmmaking, 1975 01:25:26,626 --> 01:25:29,796 and to have my face there is very humbling, 1976 01:25:29,796 --> 01:25:33,925 and it's very much an honor, and I'm very grateful. 1977 01:25:34,092 --> 01:25:36,302 Jerry Schatzberg took that picture 1978 01:25:36,302 --> 01:25:39,014 and with the big banner up over the Palais, 1979 01:25:39,014 --> 01:25:42,100 it was a great thing that Cannes did that year for him 1980 01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:43,268 and for me. 1981 01:25:43,268 --> 01:25:44,269 It was very nice. 1982 01:25:44,269 --> 01:25:45,687 I come to see the films. 1983 01:25:45,687 --> 01:25:47,897 It's the best films in the world at a given moment. 1984 01:25:47,897 --> 01:25:49,107 The funny thing about my mom 1985 01:25:49,107 --> 01:25:51,735 is no matter how bad things get, 1986 01:25:51,735 --> 01:25:53,987 when the lights and the camera come on, 1987 01:25:53,987 --> 01:25:56,281 there's no questioning it. You know, I think she feels 1988 01:25:56,281 --> 01:25:57,991 like she's in her 30s again. 1989 01:25:58,700 --> 01:26:00,744 They were showing "Bonnie and Clyde" 1990 01:26:00,744 --> 01:26:04,456 in Cannes in one of those retrospective thing. 1991 01:26:04,456 --> 01:26:07,542 And seeing it again, "Bonnie and Clyde" 1992 01:26:07,542 --> 01:26:11,129 was just as exciting and amazing 1993 01:26:11,129 --> 01:26:13,798 as when you saw it for the first time. 1994 01:26:17,427 --> 01:26:20,513 So, at the end of it, when the lights go up, 1995 01:26:20,513 --> 01:26:24,351 she turns to her son, Liam, and she said, "So? 1996 01:26:24,351 --> 01:26:26,353 Now, you're proud of your mother?" 1997 01:26:26,644 --> 01:26:30,940 And he said, "I'm always proud of you, Mom." 1998 01:26:30,940 --> 01:26:33,693 That was really touching, honestly. 1999 01:26:35,028 --> 01:26:37,072 When someone gets sick 2000 01:26:37,072 --> 01:26:39,741 or is unable to take care of themselves, 2001 01:26:39,741 --> 01:26:43,078 it falls upon someone who's close to them 2002 01:26:43,078 --> 01:26:45,163 in order to help them. 2003 01:26:45,163 --> 01:26:47,999 And when she has her fits of mania, 2004 01:26:47,999 --> 01:26:50,001 or her depression, or her bipolar, 2005 01:26:50,001 --> 01:26:51,461 it comes out in this mood. 2006 01:26:51,461 --> 01:26:54,839 You see it. It's almost like "Mommie Dearest." 2007 01:26:54,839 --> 01:26:56,257 She just has that energy. 2008 01:26:56,675 --> 01:27:00,261 I fought worse monsters than you for years in Hollywood! 2009 01:27:00,261 --> 01:27:02,472 I know how to win the hard way! 2010 01:27:02,472 --> 01:27:04,516 When she goes into, like, our lawyer's office, 2011 01:27:04,516 --> 01:27:06,351 it switches to "Network," where she's like, 2012 01:27:06,351 --> 01:27:08,937 "I know what I'm talking about, this is how it's done." 2013 01:27:08,937 --> 01:27:11,064 I'll be in LA until Saturday, 2014 01:27:11,064 --> 01:27:12,941 and I'd like to get it rolling. 2015 01:27:12,941 --> 01:27:16,152 And I think you have to ask yourself this question: 2016 01:27:16,152 --> 01:27:19,656 If she wasn't in so much pain, 2017 01:27:19,656 --> 01:27:22,701 would she have been that good? Which then, in turn, 2018 01:27:22,701 --> 01:27:26,371 wouldn't have made her be able to touch people acting. 2019 01:27:27,038 --> 01:27:29,541 You gotta take the good with the bad. You know? That's just life. 2020 01:27:29,541 --> 01:27:32,961 - Here he is! - Hi! Hi! How are you doing? 2021 01:27:32,961 --> 01:27:35,547 Hang on. Gotta hold him properly. 2022 01:27:35,547 --> 01:27:37,549 My favorite thing in my life 2023 01:27:37,549 --> 01:27:40,343 is my son. It's always been him first. 2024 01:27:40,343 --> 01:27:42,303 And my grandson. 2025 01:27:42,303 --> 01:27:44,014 Those are my refuge. Those are the things 2026 01:27:44,014 --> 01:27:45,724 that I hang on to and cling to 2027 01:27:45,724 --> 01:27:46,975 more than anything. 2028 01:27:46,975 --> 01:27:50,270 Also, in closing, my, my son. 2029 01:27:50,270 --> 01:27:51,688 I'd like to thank him. 2030 01:27:51,688 --> 01:27:54,065 Liam, you're the best. And thank you all. 2031 01:27:55,608 --> 01:27:59,404 She started off as a normal person 2032 01:27:59,404 --> 01:28:01,781 trying to be famous, 2033 01:28:01,781 --> 01:28:05,493 and is ending as a famous person trying to be normal. 2034 01:28:09,372 --> 01:28:11,374 I'm definitely Faye Dunaway. 2035 01:28:11,374 --> 01:28:12,751 That's who I am. 2036 01:28:12,751 --> 01:28:15,420 And the Dorothy Faye is in the background somewhere. 2037 01:28:15,420 --> 01:28:18,465 That's the child persona that was there. 2038 01:28:18,465 --> 01:28:20,550 I certainly kind of like that. 2039 01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:24,095 The Faye Dunaway is the surface, I suppose. The shell. 2040 01:28:28,808 --> 01:28:32,645 But, still, my deepest soul is Dorothy Faye. 168488

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