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box today I am back with another CPU and
GPU scaling video and this time I'll be
focusing on the ryzen 5 7 600 and ryzen
5 5600 which admittedly are two
different classes of product but I want
to work out at which point the jump up
from the affordable 5600 to the
relatively expensive 7600 Meg sense so
today that's what we'll be doing but
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okay so recently I updated our cost per
Frame data and found that a
well-equipped ryzen 5 5600 platform
would cost 365 dollars U.S while a
similarly equipped 7600 configuration
was a massive 53 more expensive at 560
us now across the 10 games tested the
zen4 processor was 33 faster on average
which did help improve its value but
even so it was still 16 more costly per
frame naturally for those of you already
on the am4 platform using an older
generation processor or maybe you just
have a good quality ddr4 kit that you
want to carry over the 5600 is going to
be a no-brainer as it presents as a
significantly cheaper upgrade but if
you're building an entirely new PC from
the ground up which you are really
forced into doing if you do choose to go
the ryzen 57600 but in that situation is
the newest N4 processor and it's more
future-proof am5 platform worth the
investment
for those of you looking at buying a
high-end GeForce 40 or Radeon 7000
series GPU I'd say yeah the upgrade to
Z4 is worth it over Zen three but what
if you're using a previous generation
GPU I asked this question because slower
gpus will see most gaming situations
more GPU limited than CPU limited and
therefore the difference between the
5600 and 7600 will be a lot less obvious
but of course that all changes when you
upgrade to a faster graphics card in the
future which is why CP limited CPU
testing makes the most sense but a lot
of you enjoy the GPU scaling Benchmark
so let's get into it
first up we have Watchdogs Legion using
the very high quality preset at 1080P
and when armed with the RTX 4090 the
7600 delivered 32 more performance than
the 5600 hitting 149 FPS the margins
were much the same using the 6950 XT
though frame rates were higher overall
due to the Nvidia Drive ahead issue
which often raises ugly head in CPU
limited scenarios Now using the much
more modest 6650 XT we see that the 7600
is now just 13 faster than the 5600
which admittedly is still a reasonable
margin but certainly doesn't come close
to justifying the price premium
the total war Warhammer 3 results are
pretty interesting and probably more
like what you'd typically expect to see
from a GPU CPU scaling Benchmark using
three different GPU performance tiers we
see when using the RTX 49 that the 7600
is a massive 46 faster than the 5600
reaching almost 300 FPS but when
downgrading to the 6950 XT which is
still a very powerful GPU producing
almost 200 FPS on average the 7600 was
just three percent faster than the 5600
then when testing with the 6650 XT we
see no difference in performance so for
a game like Warhammer 3 the 7600 just
isn't worth it over the 5600 but if the
49er results are any indication of
future gaming performance then the 7600
would be worth the premium the question
is though when will that future become a
reality
Hitman 3 has a mixed bag of results for
us firstly using the RTX 49er we see
that the 7600 is 42 faster than the 5600
so a seriously big performance Advantage
for the new zn4 processor but that
margin is closed down to 27 with the
6950 XT and that's still a big win for
Zen four but with less driver overhead
with the Radeon GPU the slower 5600
performs much better
then once we move down to the 6650 XT
the performance margins are neutralized
as the results become 100 GPU Limited
here we see that the a plague tail
Requiem results are quite interesting
the ryzen 5 5600 and core I3 13 100
really gets smashed by the Nvidia driver
I've had using the RTX 4090 but this is
far less of an issue for the more
powerful 7600 though it was still six
percent fast using the 650 XT under
these conditions point is though using
the RTX 490 the 7600 was 36 faster than
the 5600 while that margin is reduced to
just 15 with the 6950 XT and then
completely neutralized with the 6650 XT
Now Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 is a
game where at least 200 FPS is
advantageous and as a competitive
shooter it's a game where the more
serious players will opt for lower
quality settings not just to improve the
frame rate but in fact more so to
improve the player's ability to spot
enemies so this is an example where a
more powerful CPU such as the 7600 is of
real benefit delivering 42 more frames
than the 5600 used in the RTX 4090
though that margin was reduced to 28
with the 6950 XT
now for most Gamers the 190ish frames
per second delivered by the 6650 XT
that'll be enough and if you fall into
that category then for the most part the
7600 has little to offer but as
demonstrated by the 4090 and 6950 XT for
the more demanding sections of the game
it's possible that the 7600 will deliver
much more performance even with a lesser
GPU
the big Advantage for the 7600 in
Spider-Man remaster is its use of ddr5
memory armed with the RTX 490 the 7600
provided 35 more frames than the 5600
going from 82 to 111 FPS and that margin
remained much the same when using the
6950 XT and interestingly both ryzen
CPUs were slower with the 6950 XT while
the more CPU limited 13 100 actually
received a performance boost then we see
that with the 6650 XT the results become
largely GPU limited though the 7600 did
still manage to best the 5600 by an 8
margin
the shadow of the Tomb Raider scaling is
very typical using the RTX 490 the 7600
was 34 faster than 5600 and that margin
was reduced to 20 with the 6950 XT as
the 7600 became GPU limited then with
the 6650 xtl3 CPUs are heavily GPU
Limited at around 110 FPS which
admittedly is more than enough
performance to fully enjoy this title
scaling in Horizon zero Dawn is very
similar to that of shadow of the Tomb
Raider the 7600 was 24 fast using the
RTX 4090 and 23 faster with the 6950 XT
so a clear performance Advantage here
for the newer zn4 processor but by the
time we get down to the 6650 XT the
results are entirely GPU limited with
less than a five percent performance
deviation
the cyberpunk 2077 results are
interesting as here the 7600 delivered
35 more performance than the 5600 using
the RTX 4090 so a massive performance
Advantage here for the newer Zen 4
processor however switching to the 6950
XT reduces that margin of 14 as the
Radeon GPU improves upon the performance
of the 5600 by a 12 margin while the
7600 is now GPU limited reducing the
performance there by five percent then
as you'd expect we're GPU limited using
the 6950 XT and this saw all CPUs
delivering around 95 to 96 FPS
the ACC results are all heavily CPU
limited regardless of the GPU used using
the Radeon gpus the 7600 was 35 faster
the 5600 and quite oddly that margin was
reduced to 28 with the RTX 4090 still at
around 30 faster than the 5600 the
newest N4 processor is offering massive
performance gains in this title
the second last game we're going to look
at is the rift breaker and this one
doesn't require massive frame rates so
any of these CPUs will work fine but
we're using this more as a tool to
measure performance and we find the 7600
is 40 faster than the 5600 used in the
RTX 4090 and then 22 faster with the
6950 XT before the data becomes entirely
GPU limited with the 6650xt
last up we have Counter-Strike Global
offense even like ACC this is another
game that's heavily CPU limited and as a
result the 7600 was between 26 and 28
faster than the 5600 across the board
even when using the 6650 XT
now here's a look at the 12-game average
using the RTX 4090 we see the 7600 was
on average 35 faster than 5600 though
that margin is reduced to 23 with the
6950 XT it's interesting to note that
here the 5600 was faster using the 6950
XT opposed to the RTX 4090 while the
opposite is true of the 7600 and again
this is due to nvidia's driver overhead
issue which hurts C performance when
utilization is high then we see thanks
to heavily CPU limited titles such as CS
go and ACC the 7600 is still seven
percent faster on average using the 6650
XT though this isn't necessarily the
kind of margin that would get you to
invest in Zen 4. there's no denying that
the ryzen 5 7600 is much more powerful
than the 5600 just is it's typically
improved gaming performance by around 30
but often much more than that especially
when heavily CPU limited you also don't
always need an extreme GPU such as the
RTX 490 to see the difference the
upgrade from the 5600 to the 7600 could
certainly be justified with a much more
affordable graphics card but at the same
time it's not going to be all that
beneficial for everyone in fact I'd say
for most ryzen 5 5600 owners the upgrade
to the 7600 is a bit pointless as I
noted earlier the upgraded Zen four will
cost you at least 560 us for a basic
b650 Board of course the ryzen 5 7600
and then 32 gigabytes of decent ddr5
memory so a better alternative for am4
owners looking to achieve 7 600 like
performance is the ryzen 7 5800x3d
currently available for 340 a roughly 40
discount when compared to the 7600
upgrade for again basically the same
level of performance
however if you're a new system builder
tossing up between these two CPUs the
choice is a lot more difficult well
maybe it's not obviously if you want to
spend as little money as possible then
the 5600 is the way to go but if you're
looking to maximize your investment the
7600 might actually be the smarter
choice although the 7600 package costs
at least 53 more we did see on average
30 more performance with a relatively
high in GPU so a good performance uplift
there and further adding to the value of
the 7600 is the am5 platform which will
support future CPUs meaning the cheap
and easy 5800x 3d upgrade situation 5600
owners can take advantage of or those
with much older am4 processes for that
matter could end up being a similar
situation for 7 600 owners in a few
years time of course we just don't know
how the am5 story will play out but we
know how the am4 story has played out
and that story has now ended in my
opinion there's really no wrong or right
choice here both are very viable the 56
hundred it's still perfectly capable
when it comes to gaming especially if
you're using more modest GPU and you
tend to mostly play single player titles
but even then it is still very capable
as a competitive sort of multiplayer
gaming CPU but of course the 7600 will
generally take performance to the next
level so really it is up to you to
decide which of these options is best
for you and with that I'm going to end
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