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What was that purple light over there? 6 00:00:14,542 --> 00:00:16,875 -KALEB: Looks like a deer. -Look at this. 7 00:00:17,042 --> 00:00:19,333 What the heck would have burned this post? 8 00:00:19,417 --> 00:00:21,167 You've got the five lines converging 9 00:00:21,250 --> 00:00:23,333 to a point down by the tree behind the homestead, 10 00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:27,500 and then the mesa is right there where that GPR anomaly is. 11 00:00:27,583 --> 00:00:30,292 ERIK: We need to see what's underneath the entire ranch. 12 00:00:31,292 --> 00:00:34,833 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,292 It is considered the epicenter 14 00:00:37,375 --> 00:00:42,083 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 15 00:00:42,208 --> 00:00:44,625 animal mutilations, 16 00:00:44,708 --> 00:00:46,583 bizarre UFO sightings 17 00:00:46,708 --> 00:00:52,125 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 18 00:00:52,208 --> 00:00:54,458 For 20 years, the federal government 19 00:00:54,542 --> 00:00:58,042 tried to find answers and failed. 20 00:00:58,208 --> 00:01:02,083 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 21 00:01:02,208 --> 00:01:05,667 researchers and experts has taken over. 22 00:01:05,792 --> 00:01:10,292 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 23 00:01:12,458 --> 00:01:16,167 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 24 00:01:23,208 --> 00:01:27,417 JOE: I think we're just about past that second rock. 25 00:01:27,542 --> 00:01:29,667 (whirring) 26 00:01:33,875 --> 00:01:35,917 JOE (over radio): Hey, Thomas. 27 00:01:36,042 --> 00:01:37,667 THOMAS: Yeah, go ahead. 28 00:01:37,750 --> 00:01:39,250 JOE: I'm about 20 feet in with the drill, 29 00:01:39,375 --> 00:01:41,000 but it's gonna take a lot more time 30 00:01:41,125 --> 00:01:44,292 -to reach the anomaly. -Copy that. 31 00:01:44,375 --> 00:01:48,125 TRAVIS: For two weeks now, our drill operator Joe Loeb 32 00:01:48,250 --> 00:01:50,792 has been trying to reach the 120-foot-tall, 33 00:01:50,875 --> 00:01:52,333 possibly metallic anomaly 34 00:01:52,458 --> 00:01:56,333 that we detected about 40 feet below the top of the mesa. 35 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:57,750 And since it's right next to the massive 36 00:01:57,875 --> 00:01:59,292 dome-shaped anomaly 37 00:01:59,375 --> 00:02:01,667 that a much larger drill rig couldn't penetrate, 38 00:02:01,750 --> 00:02:03,333 we're hoping that Joe can help us determine 39 00:02:03,417 --> 00:02:05,167 just what's inside there. 40 00:02:05,292 --> 00:02:08,583 Keep it running. We'll check in with you a little bit later. 41 00:02:08,708 --> 00:02:10,667 -JOE: Sounds good. -TRAVIS: While Joe Loeb continued 42 00:02:10,833 --> 00:02:13,875 the drilling operation on top of the mesa... 43 00:02:16,708 --> 00:02:19,292 BRYANT: Your guests are here, Erik. 44 00:02:19,375 --> 00:02:21,458 TRAVIS: ...Erik Bard and the other guys from the team 45 00:02:21,583 --> 00:02:24,042 were meeting with physicist Jeremiah Pate 46 00:02:24,167 --> 00:02:26,083 and his colleagues from Lunasonde. 47 00:02:26,208 --> 00:02:28,000 ERIK: Well, Jeremiah, it's been 48 00:02:28,125 --> 00:02:29,625 a long time in the making. 49 00:02:29,708 --> 00:02:32,208 Yeah, great to finally be here in person. 50 00:02:32,333 --> 00:02:33,625 TRAVIS: With all the anomalies 51 00:02:33,708 --> 00:02:35,250 that we've detected inside the mesa, 52 00:02:35,375 --> 00:02:36,542 under Homestead Two, 53 00:02:36,708 --> 00:02:38,792 and in the air above the triangle, 54 00:02:38,875 --> 00:02:41,583 Erik hoped that the specialized aerial technology 55 00:02:41,708 --> 00:02:45,000 that Jeremiah invented could scan those areas 56 00:02:45,167 --> 00:02:48,208 and reveal some answers above and below ground 57 00:02:48,333 --> 00:02:50,125 about all the UAPs, 58 00:02:50,208 --> 00:02:52,792 the energy spikes, and the other phenomena 59 00:02:52,875 --> 00:02:55,750 that we keep experiencing here on Skinwalker Ranch. 60 00:02:56,458 --> 00:02:58,458 So, tell me how this is gonna work. 61 00:02:58,583 --> 00:03:00,333 It's a very versatile technology, 62 00:03:00,458 --> 00:03:02,292 but essentially it's a low-frequency radar. 63 00:03:02,375 --> 00:03:05,333 Today we'll be flying it on a weather balloon 64 00:03:05,417 --> 00:03:07,708 that's actually gonna take it up to about twice as high 65 00:03:07,875 --> 00:03:10,500 as a jetliner, over 70,000 feet 66 00:03:10,583 --> 00:03:13,167 -above the ranch... -THOMAS: Wow. 67 00:03:13,292 --> 00:03:14,958 ...and actually let us see, potentially, kilometers 68 00:03:15,083 --> 00:03:16,667 beneath the surface. 69 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,250 THOMAS: Did you say 70 00:03:19,375 --> 00:03:22,000 -kilometers under the earth? -Absolutely. 71 00:03:22,167 --> 00:03:23,417 (laughs): That's crazy. 72 00:03:23,542 --> 00:03:25,625 -That's a long ways down. -Yeah. 73 00:03:27,375 --> 00:03:28,500 JEREMIAH: All of our sensors are attached 74 00:03:28,625 --> 00:03:31,125 to a large meteorological balloon. 75 00:03:31,250 --> 00:03:33,667 This takes it up to its final altitude 76 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:35,583 of around 70,000 feet. 77 00:03:35,708 --> 00:03:39,333 Our technology works by using low-frequency radio waves 78 00:03:39,417 --> 00:03:41,750 to actually see deeper into the planet 79 00:03:41,875 --> 00:03:44,250 than anyone ever has before. 80 00:03:44,375 --> 00:03:45,708 Ultimately, what we'll see 81 00:03:45,875 --> 00:03:48,500 is actually what's known as a tomographic image. 82 00:03:48,583 --> 00:03:51,917 This is a true 3D map of the subsurface. 83 00:03:52,042 --> 00:03:54,542 THOMAS: This is incredible. 84 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:58,375 You know, for years, decades, there's been rumors 85 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:02,833 on this property of underground bases, tunnel systems. 86 00:04:02,917 --> 00:04:05,500 Maybe we can put some of these, uh, rumors to bed 87 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:07,833 or-or maybe validate 'em. Uh, who knows? 88 00:04:07,958 --> 00:04:09,750 Exactly. We want to peel back just a little bit 89 00:04:09,875 --> 00:04:11,208 of the mystery today. 90 00:04:11,375 --> 00:04:12,833 THOMAS: I think the triangle 91 00:04:12,958 --> 00:04:16,083 will be a good dry, flat area that we can stage from. 92 00:04:16,208 --> 00:04:18,500 Plus, uh, you know, this is an area 93 00:04:18,625 --> 00:04:20,167 that's been of great interest to us. 94 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:22,667 -Yeah, definitely. -BRYANT: At the triangle, 95 00:04:22,833 --> 00:04:25,292 it seems as though there is something in the air 96 00:04:25,417 --> 00:04:30,500 at varying heights that we can't see with our eyes 97 00:04:30,667 --> 00:04:32,458 but seems to show up on equipment. 98 00:04:32,542 --> 00:04:35,208 So, I know that you're looking to see what's underground here. 99 00:04:35,375 --> 00:04:36,833 Would it be able to pick something up, say, 100 00:04:36,958 --> 00:04:38,333 in the air as well? 101 00:04:38,458 --> 00:04:40,333 Definitely. So, the way these sensors work 102 00:04:40,458 --> 00:04:43,542 is they measure both the far field and the near field. 103 00:04:43,708 --> 00:04:45,458 We'll actually be able to measure 104 00:04:45,583 --> 00:04:49,250 the air column directly above the triangle as we ascend. 105 00:04:49,375 --> 00:04:51,042 Well, there's our reason for putting it in the triangle. 106 00:04:51,208 --> 00:04:52,875 Absolutely. We've... 107 00:04:53,042 --> 00:04:56,167 we've had some strange things happen in that particular area. 108 00:04:56,250 --> 00:05:02,000 This area above the triangle has high strangeness to it. 109 00:05:02,167 --> 00:05:05,792 We've seen rockets try to go through this area and explode. 110 00:05:06,708 --> 00:05:07,833 ALLEN (over radio): Three, 111 00:05:07,958 --> 00:05:10,292 two, one. 112 00:05:10,417 --> 00:05:12,500 Oh, uh-oh. That motor blew. 113 00:05:12,667 --> 00:05:14,833 TRAVIS: It exploded. Oh, no. 114 00:05:14,917 --> 00:05:17,375 BRYANT: There is something in the air 115 00:05:17,542 --> 00:05:19,375 above the triangle on Skinwalker Ranch 116 00:05:19,542 --> 00:05:22,500 that's causing all sorts of strangeness to happen. 117 00:05:25,042 --> 00:05:26,250 TRAVIS: Oh, we got a malfunction. 118 00:05:26,375 --> 00:05:27,833 Everybody, watch out. 119 00:05:28,833 --> 00:05:30,375 BRYANT: But why? 120 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:32,500 We're trying to find answers to what's going on here. 121 00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:34,583 If you want to follow me out, 122 00:05:34,708 --> 00:05:36,417 I'll lead you out to the area where we can 123 00:05:36,542 --> 00:05:38,667 -get you set up. -Sounds great. 124 00:05:42,208 --> 00:05:43,917 ERIK: I have high expectations about 125 00:05:44,042 --> 00:05:48,625 what we may be able to detect with this Lunasonde technology. 126 00:05:51,792 --> 00:05:54,250 Well, antenna one is the B field antenna, 127 00:05:54,375 --> 00:05:56,625 which is that guy there. 128 00:05:56,750 --> 00:05:59,292 ERIK: I'm hoping that we'll be able to see 129 00:05:59,417 --> 00:06:01,458 if, in fact, we have any interesting structures 130 00:06:01,583 --> 00:06:02,750 beneath Skinwalker Ranch. 131 00:06:02,875 --> 00:06:05,542 Or even metal deposits in the mesa. 132 00:06:05,667 --> 00:06:07,458 And perhaps an answer to the anomaly 133 00:06:07,583 --> 00:06:08,792 just above the triangle. 134 00:06:08,917 --> 00:06:11,500 I really don't know what to expect. 135 00:06:11,625 --> 00:06:14,667 CLAYTON: Okay, balloons ready for the fill. 136 00:06:14,792 --> 00:06:16,042 Beginning fill. 137 00:06:16,208 --> 00:06:17,583 (air hissing) 138 00:06:19,333 --> 00:06:21,167 So each of these payloads you see here, 139 00:06:21,292 --> 00:06:24,000 they each have a very particular function. 140 00:06:24,125 --> 00:06:25,625 -ERIK: Okay. -So, up here we have 141 00:06:25,750 --> 00:06:27,333 a couple payloads that are involved 142 00:06:27,458 --> 00:06:30,042 in the actual tracking of the overall balloon setup. 143 00:06:30,208 --> 00:06:31,750 Uh, down here, this is another setup. 144 00:06:31,875 --> 00:06:34,583 So, this, actually, is a, uh, camera setup 145 00:06:34,708 --> 00:06:36,458 as well as some other tracking equipment. 146 00:06:36,542 --> 00:06:38,875 -Wow. -Each payload 147 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,792 has a specified function, 148 00:06:40,875 --> 00:06:43,167 and so our actual experimental sensors, 149 00:06:43,292 --> 00:06:45,042 each of them measures a different part 150 00:06:45,208 --> 00:06:46,667 of the electromagnetic field. 151 00:06:46,750 --> 00:06:48,667 We have several cameras on board 152 00:06:48,792 --> 00:06:51,375 that actually will record the flight. 153 00:06:53,333 --> 00:06:55,000 Wow, look at that. 154 00:06:57,792 --> 00:06:59,333 Are we getting close to launch? 155 00:06:59,458 --> 00:07:01,417 Yep. Balloon's almost ready to go. 156 00:07:01,542 --> 00:07:04,125 Perfect. I need to get back to the control room. 157 00:07:04,250 --> 00:07:07,333 I want to keep our assets trained on, on your payloads. 158 00:07:07,458 --> 00:07:08,500 Absolutely. 159 00:07:08,667 --> 00:07:10,625 ERIK: As we near launch, 160 00:07:10,750 --> 00:07:12,417 I'm heading back to the command center 161 00:07:12,542 --> 00:07:14,958 so I can train some of our surveillance cameras 162 00:07:15,042 --> 00:07:17,750 on the sky and watch that balloon as it ascends, 163 00:07:17,875 --> 00:07:20,458 and observe whether there is any strange interference 164 00:07:20,542 --> 00:07:22,417 on the way up. 165 00:07:22,542 --> 00:07:25,375 CLAYTON: Okay, we're releasing the balloon. 166 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:28,208 -Very careful. -BRYANT: Hey, Erik? 167 00:07:28,333 --> 00:07:29,417 Just giving you a heads-up, 168 00:07:29,542 --> 00:07:31,583 we've started to deploy the balloon 169 00:07:31,708 --> 00:07:34,292 and slowly letting up all the payloads. 170 00:07:34,375 --> 00:07:36,542 Copy you. I can see it ascending. 171 00:07:37,583 --> 00:07:39,750 BRYANT: Fantastic. 172 00:07:39,875 --> 00:07:41,292 CLAYTON: Okay, I think we're good. 173 00:07:41,375 --> 00:07:43,542 Go for launch. 174 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:47,542 KANDUS: And off it goes. 175 00:07:48,542 --> 00:07:51,208 That is a heck of a payload. 176 00:07:51,333 --> 00:07:53,708 Wow. 177 00:07:53,833 --> 00:07:55,542 CLAYTON: Now those payloads are recording, 178 00:07:55,708 --> 00:07:58,042 and we'll start the tracking effort. 179 00:07:59,375 --> 00:08:02,000 TRAVIS: The Lunasonde team will remotely control the balloon 180 00:08:02,083 --> 00:08:05,542 as it ascends to about 70,000 feet high 181 00:08:05,667 --> 00:08:07,375 and scans the skies and the grounds 182 00:08:07,542 --> 00:08:09,000 of the entire ranch, 183 00:08:09,083 --> 00:08:11,042 with a specific focus on the triangle, 184 00:08:11,167 --> 00:08:13,375 the mesa and Homestead Two. 185 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:14,833 Fantastic. 186 00:08:14,917 --> 00:08:16,833 TRAVIS: Once the survey is complete, 187 00:08:16,958 --> 00:08:19,000 Jeremiah will remotely deflate the balloon 188 00:08:19,125 --> 00:08:21,667 and retrieve it along with his devices. 189 00:08:21,792 --> 00:08:24,667 It could take days or even weeks to get 190 00:08:24,792 --> 00:08:28,500 the aerial and underground data fully processed, 191 00:08:28,625 --> 00:08:30,750 but hopefully this will get us the best data yet 192 00:08:30,875 --> 00:08:32,833 of not only what could be causing anomalies 193 00:08:32,958 --> 00:08:36,333 above the ranch but also underground 194 00:08:36,458 --> 00:08:38,875 and in the mesa as well. 195 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,625 I'm impressed. 196 00:08:40,750 --> 00:08:41,958 -(laughs) -Hopefully the data 197 00:08:42,083 --> 00:08:44,167 that comes back is as impressive as 198 00:08:44,333 --> 00:08:46,167 getting that thing in the air. 199 00:08:54,958 --> 00:08:56,458 -KALEB: Hey, Bryant. Hey, guys. -Hey, man. 200 00:08:56,542 --> 00:08:57,958 TRAVIS: While Lunasonde conducted 201 00:08:58,083 --> 00:09:00,167 the aerial survey of the entire ranch... 202 00:09:00,250 --> 00:09:01,833 This is a really good friend of mine Kori Reed. 203 00:09:01,958 --> 00:09:03,500 -BRYANT: Hey, Kori. I'm Bryant. -How you doing? 204 00:09:03,667 --> 00:09:05,417 ...Tom Lewis and Kandus Linde 205 00:09:05,542 --> 00:09:07,833 met outside the command center with Dragon 206 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,125 along with Kaleb Bench and his colleague, 207 00:09:10,208 --> 00:09:11,958 local deputy sheriff Kori Reed. 208 00:09:12,042 --> 00:09:13,917 I worked with Kori through law enforcement, 209 00:09:14,042 --> 00:09:15,833 and he actually investigated some things 210 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,917 over here on the west side of the ranch. 211 00:09:18,042 --> 00:09:19,583 And this happened, wha-- 212 00:09:19,708 --> 00:09:21,500 -how long ago did this happen? -This was in the early 2000s 213 00:09:21,667 --> 00:09:23,625 -when this happened. -BRYANT: Okay. 214 00:09:23,750 --> 00:09:25,333 KORI: I was with the tribal fish and game at the time. 215 00:09:25,417 --> 00:09:26,667 Tribal. Okay. 216 00:09:26,750 --> 00:09:28,000 It's on the neighbor's property, 217 00:09:28,125 --> 00:09:29,792 but you can see it from your property. 218 00:09:29,875 --> 00:09:32,000 BRYANT: Okay, so it's on the west-side tribal property, 219 00:09:32,167 --> 00:09:34,917 -but we can see it through the fence from our side. -Correct. 220 00:09:35,042 --> 00:09:37,250 TRAVIS: Kori also happens to be a member 221 00:09:37,375 --> 00:09:38,833 of the Indigenous Ute nation. 222 00:09:38,958 --> 00:09:40,542 So, given their well-known aversion 223 00:09:40,667 --> 00:09:42,625 to speaking about Skinwalker Ranch 224 00:09:42,708 --> 00:09:45,125 or even coming near the place, we were really eager 225 00:09:45,208 --> 00:09:48,000 to hear what he investigated and found in this area 226 00:09:48,167 --> 00:09:49,833 as an officer of the law. 227 00:09:49,917 --> 00:09:51,583 Yeah, well, let's get out there. 228 00:09:51,708 --> 00:09:54,167 All right, yeah, we'll follow you down. 229 00:09:56,333 --> 00:09:58,333 KORI: I worked for the tribe as a conservation officer 230 00:09:58,417 --> 00:10:02,500 for 13 years, and that's when I had the experiences out here 231 00:10:02,625 --> 00:10:05,667 around the west side of Skinwalker Ranch. 232 00:10:09,542 --> 00:10:11,083 KALEB: This looking familiar to you, Kori? 233 00:10:11,208 --> 00:10:12,250 KORI: Yep. 234 00:10:13,292 --> 00:10:14,833 That's the spot right there. 235 00:10:15,667 --> 00:10:17,250 BRYANT: Okay. 236 00:10:19,167 --> 00:10:20,667 KORI: Uh, owner of the property reported 237 00:10:20,833 --> 00:10:23,000 they had two horses that were dead. 238 00:10:23,167 --> 00:10:24,667 They were dead for about a couple days. 239 00:10:24,792 --> 00:10:27,458 -Okay. -And they were in this spot by the post. 240 00:10:27,542 --> 00:10:29,333 Were they mature horses? 241 00:10:29,458 --> 00:10:31,167 KORI: They were. 242 00:10:31,250 --> 00:10:34,542 One horse was kind of right in the center of all three posts. 243 00:10:34,708 --> 00:10:36,917 The other one was on the southeast corner. 244 00:10:39,667 --> 00:10:41,792 They were cleaned out from the inside. 245 00:10:42,875 --> 00:10:44,167 There was no tissue, 246 00:10:44,250 --> 00:10:46,792 no organs or nothing like that on them. 247 00:10:46,875 --> 00:10:48,458 -Crazy. -BRYANT: Hmm. 248 00:10:48,583 --> 00:10:50,000 It's interesting. 249 00:10:50,125 --> 00:10:52,500 KORI: And there was just some strange footprints 250 00:10:52,583 --> 00:10:54,625 in the ground that were around it. 251 00:10:54,750 --> 00:10:56,125 TOM: What kind of footprints? 252 00:10:56,208 --> 00:10:57,625 KORI: We found some 253 00:10:57,750 --> 00:10:59,333 that had three toes on 'em. 254 00:11:00,333 --> 00:11:01,375 KALEB: And they were big? 255 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:04,292 They were about six inches. 256 00:11:05,875 --> 00:11:07,333 BRYANT: Whatever it is, 257 00:11:07,417 --> 00:11:09,958 nothing that we know of that can make prints like that. 258 00:11:10,042 --> 00:11:11,208 Right. 259 00:11:12,333 --> 00:11:15,042 KANDUS: That's creepy. 260 00:11:18,958 --> 00:11:20,833 Describe these three-toed footprints. 261 00:11:20,917 --> 00:11:22,833 Are we talking, like, wide toes, are we talking, like, 262 00:11:22,958 --> 00:11:24,292 -bird-looking tracks? -They were probably about 263 00:11:24,375 --> 00:11:26,458 the size of my hand right there, just putting it down. 264 00:11:26,542 --> 00:11:28,500 But they were all equal-size toes. 265 00:11:28,667 --> 00:11:30,542 KALEB: So, there was like, 266 00:11:30,708 --> 00:11:32,208 three digits off of one foot? 267 00:11:32,333 --> 00:11:34,542 -Off of one foot. -And they were, and they were big? 268 00:11:34,667 --> 00:11:36,042 They were about six inches. 269 00:11:36,208 --> 00:11:37,417 Wow. 270 00:11:37,542 --> 00:11:38,875 TRAVIS: Bizarre animal mutilations 271 00:11:39,042 --> 00:11:41,500 have been reported on Skinwalker Ranch for decades. 272 00:11:41,625 --> 00:11:45,125 We've seen cows mysteriously die out here ourselves. 273 00:11:45,208 --> 00:11:46,917 What in the world? 274 00:11:47,042 --> 00:11:48,792 And just in the last couple weeks, 275 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:50,917 we've found two mutilated deer carcasses 276 00:11:51,042 --> 00:11:54,833 in the south field next to a strangely burned fence post. 277 00:11:54,917 --> 00:11:57,000 What the heck would have burned this post? 278 00:11:57,125 --> 00:12:01,375 TRAVIS: And that was also where we recently documented two UAPs 279 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:03,167 during nighttime experiments, 280 00:12:03,292 --> 00:12:06,750 and then another one in broad daylight. 281 00:12:06,875 --> 00:12:08,875 -What? -I don't know what to think about 282 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,167 the strange footprints that Deputy Sheriff Reed reported, 283 00:12:12,250 --> 00:12:13,875 but given what other investigators 284 00:12:14,042 --> 00:12:16,625 and our own team have seen out here, 285 00:12:16,708 --> 00:12:19,000 we need to keep investigating everywhere, 286 00:12:19,083 --> 00:12:21,000 from the mesa to the south field, 287 00:12:21,125 --> 00:12:23,000 in order to find out the truth of what's causing 288 00:12:23,125 --> 00:12:25,167 all these phenomena to happen. 289 00:12:25,333 --> 00:12:27,000 We're both shaking our heads when we left 290 00:12:27,167 --> 00:12:28,500 'cause we didn't know what happened. 291 00:12:28,625 --> 00:12:29,833 KALEB: Do you have photos or the report 292 00:12:29,917 --> 00:12:31,875 -or anything like that? -So... 293 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,792 I did the report, printed off all the pictures, 294 00:12:34,917 --> 00:12:36,917 um, went back a few months later, 295 00:12:37,042 --> 00:12:39,333 I could not find my report or the pictures. 296 00:12:39,458 --> 00:12:40,833 BRYANT: Someone didn't want 297 00:12:40,958 --> 00:12:42,542 anyone to know about this. 298 00:12:42,708 --> 00:12:44,667 -Could be. -Hmm. 299 00:12:44,833 --> 00:12:47,500 KALEB: I've heard stories like that, where someone has pictures 300 00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:49,000 or they have an experience like that 301 00:12:49,167 --> 00:12:50,167 and they get video or something, 302 00:12:50,333 --> 00:12:54,000 and they talk to someone, um, above them 303 00:12:54,083 --> 00:12:56,333 and they're told to get rid of it. 304 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:58,000 I've heard the exact same thing. 305 00:12:58,083 --> 00:13:00,083 BRYANT: I could tell it was uncomfortable 306 00:13:00,208 --> 00:13:02,667 for Kori to tell these stories, but we really appreciate 307 00:13:02,833 --> 00:13:05,000 these individuals coming forward with these 308 00:13:05,125 --> 00:13:07,000 what seem like outlandish tales, 309 00:13:07,083 --> 00:13:09,875 but I can tell he believes it and he experienced it. 310 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,667 We appreciate so much your willingness to come out 311 00:13:11,833 --> 00:13:13,167 and talk about this different kind of stuff. 312 00:13:13,333 --> 00:13:15,167 'Cause I know it's not comfortable 313 00:13:15,250 --> 00:13:16,500 -and it's not easy, so thank you. -KORI: It's not, 314 00:13:16,625 --> 00:13:17,958 -so, yeah. -Thank you a lot. 315 00:13:18,042 --> 00:13:19,000 -Appreciate it very much. -You're welcome. 316 00:13:19,167 --> 00:13:21,167 -Thanks for having me. -Cool. 317 00:13:30,542 --> 00:13:33,000 TRAVIS: How's it going, guys? 318 00:13:33,125 --> 00:13:34,667 -That is a lot of equipment. -He's ready to roll. 319 00:13:34,833 --> 00:13:36,875 He's got some really cool stuff here. 320 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,375 TRAVIS: A couple of nights later, 321 00:13:38,542 --> 00:13:40,042 while we were waiting for the data results 322 00:13:40,208 --> 00:13:41,667 from the Lunasonde ranch survey, 323 00:13:41,792 --> 00:13:44,417 we invited technologist David Mason 324 00:13:44,542 --> 00:13:47,375 and local fire management officer Don Mitchell back out 325 00:13:47,542 --> 00:13:49,583 to help us with a pretty ambitious experiment 326 00:13:49,708 --> 00:13:51,000 we wanted to conduct 327 00:13:51,167 --> 00:13:53,375 between the triangle and the south field. 328 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:56,792 Because we've documented so many phenomena this year, 329 00:13:56,917 --> 00:13:58,250 between the triangle, 330 00:13:58,375 --> 00:14:00,583 where we saw the blob-like anomaly, 331 00:14:00,708 --> 00:14:02,667 Homestead Two, where we uncovered lines 332 00:14:02,792 --> 00:14:04,083 of strange materials 333 00:14:04,208 --> 00:14:06,167 similar to what we've found in the mesa, 334 00:14:06,333 --> 00:14:09,292 and the south field, where we've seen numerous UAPs 335 00:14:09,417 --> 00:14:11,583 and found mutilated deer carcasses, 336 00:14:11,708 --> 00:14:15,333 we're hoping we can stimulate more strange things to appear 337 00:14:15,417 --> 00:14:18,125 but this time identify just what they are. 338 00:14:18,208 --> 00:14:20,000 DAVID: So, what I've done 339 00:14:20,167 --> 00:14:22,000 is I brought eight, uh, thermal-imaging cameras 340 00:14:22,083 --> 00:14:24,875 and, uh, two of them are high-resolution. 341 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,792 So, if anything anomalous appears, 342 00:14:26,917 --> 00:14:28,750 just a-a slight temperature change, 343 00:14:28,875 --> 00:14:30,833 we'll be able to see it, uh, much more clearly 344 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,458 than just we-- using conventional, uh, 345 00:14:32,583 --> 00:14:34,125 -thermal camera technology. -THOMAS: That is cool. 346 00:14:34,250 --> 00:14:36,000 That is real cool. Awesome. 347 00:14:36,125 --> 00:14:38,333 So, if it's got a thermal signature, we're gonna get it. 348 00:14:38,458 --> 00:14:40,500 Well, we've got the truck loaded up, 349 00:14:40,583 --> 00:14:41,833 the rockets are ready to go. 350 00:14:41,958 --> 00:14:43,167 We're gonna head out to the triangle 351 00:14:43,333 --> 00:14:45,000 and get ready for the first launch. 352 00:14:45,125 --> 00:14:46,875 And, uh, we'll give you a call when we get out there. 353 00:14:47,042 --> 00:14:47,917 -Okay. Sounds good. -All right, guys. 354 00:14:48,042 --> 00:14:50,083 Good luck, good hunting. 355 00:14:50,208 --> 00:14:51,833 Kaleb and I have converted a truck 356 00:14:51,917 --> 00:14:53,958 into a mobile rocket and mortar launcher. 357 00:14:54,042 --> 00:14:55,958 We're gonna fire off payloads reaching 358 00:14:56,083 --> 00:14:59,333 more than 100 feet in the air, starting at the triangle. 359 00:14:59,417 --> 00:15:02,000 Meanwhile, David Mason, Erik and the guys 360 00:15:02,125 --> 00:15:05,375 will observe everything using eight thermal cameras. 361 00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:07,833 They'll be able to detect anything 362 00:15:07,917 --> 00:15:09,333 that might suddenly change in temperature 363 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:12,208 and that we can't see with the naked eye. 364 00:15:12,375 --> 00:15:14,583 Depending on what happens after our launches at the triangle, 365 00:15:14,708 --> 00:15:18,167 we'll move to the south field and repeat the experiment there. 366 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:19,750 KALEB: It fits on there pretty good. 367 00:15:19,875 --> 00:15:21,125 TRAVIS: Oh, it's ratchet-strapped in, 368 00:15:21,208 --> 00:15:22,458 it ain't going nowhere. 369 00:15:22,542 --> 00:15:24,000 Since we're still waiting 370 00:15:24,125 --> 00:15:25,792 for the aerial and underground data results 371 00:15:25,917 --> 00:15:27,917 from Lunasonde's balloon experiment, 372 00:15:28,042 --> 00:15:30,083 we're really hoping that tonight we can get 373 00:15:30,208 --> 00:15:34,208 the blob, more UAPs, or who knows what to appear 374 00:15:34,375 --> 00:15:36,542 and help us identify what these phenomena are 375 00:15:36,708 --> 00:15:40,292 and why they keep occurring on Skinwalker Ranch. 376 00:15:41,667 --> 00:15:43,000 All right. 377 00:15:43,125 --> 00:15:45,833 This will be right dead center of the triangle, 378 00:15:45,958 --> 00:15:47,708 right under where... 379 00:15:47,875 --> 00:15:49,375 -Right where the big one blew up. -...the rocket blew up. Yeah. 380 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:51,667 Right where the big rocket blew up last year. 381 00:15:51,833 --> 00:15:54,292 -(grunts) -(laughs) All right. 382 00:15:54,375 --> 00:15:57,333 This is good to go here. All right. 383 00:15:57,500 --> 00:16:00,833 -We're gonna do both launch and mortar? -KALEB: Yeah, why not? 384 00:16:00,917 --> 00:16:02,375 So, I'll get on this side and launch it 385 00:16:02,542 --> 00:16:04,375 if you get on that side and fire off the mortars. 386 00:16:04,542 --> 00:16:05,792 -Yep. -That make sense? 387 00:16:05,875 --> 00:16:07,167 Complete. 388 00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:10,000 -TRAVIS: Erik, you copy? -Yeah, go ahead, Travis. 389 00:16:10,125 --> 00:16:12,500 Yeah, man, we're ready to, uh, launch a rocket, 390 00:16:12,583 --> 00:16:15,708 and we're gonna fire mortars at the same time. 391 00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:17,625 Okay, stand by. I'm gonna turn on 392 00:16:17,708 --> 00:16:22,083 the 1.6 gigahertz sweep and I'll give you the word. 393 00:16:22,208 --> 00:16:25,042 Over the years, we've encountered this signal 394 00:16:25,208 --> 00:16:26,625 near 1.6 gigahertz. 395 00:16:26,708 --> 00:16:31,000 I'm still trying to sort out how that signal 396 00:16:31,125 --> 00:16:33,042 is related to the ranch phenomenon. 397 00:16:33,167 --> 00:16:35,792 As if the rockets that we're going to be launching 398 00:16:35,917 --> 00:16:37,333 are not stimulus enough, 399 00:16:37,458 --> 00:16:40,542 we will be broadcasting a sweep of signals 400 00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:44,208 around that 1.6 gigahertz range 401 00:16:44,333 --> 00:16:46,167 that has drawn our interest in the past. 402 00:16:46,292 --> 00:16:48,500 All right, Travis, we are broadcasting 403 00:16:48,667 --> 00:16:50,333 the 1.6 gigahertz sweep. 404 00:16:50,458 --> 00:16:52,500 We've got eyes in every direction 405 00:16:52,625 --> 00:16:55,250 and at every available wavelength. 406 00:16:55,375 --> 00:16:57,250 All right, then, we're good to go. 407 00:16:57,375 --> 00:16:58,958 -BRYANT: You ready to go, Dave? -I'm ready to go. 408 00:16:59,042 --> 00:17:00,125 Okay. 409 00:17:00,250 --> 00:17:02,167 Go ahead and launch. 410 00:17:02,292 --> 00:17:06,542 TRAVIS: Rocket is hot. Mortars are ready. 411 00:17:06,708 --> 00:17:09,333 In five, four, 412 00:17:09,417 --> 00:17:14,125 three, two, one. 413 00:17:15,542 --> 00:17:17,250 Yeah, there go-- Oh, there go-- they're running into each other! 414 00:17:17,375 --> 00:17:19,083 KALEB: Oh, that one just hit. 415 00:17:19,208 --> 00:17:20,667 (Travis shouts) 416 00:17:20,792 --> 00:17:22,708 TRAVIS: That rocket flew right into that mortar. 417 00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:24,958 How did that happen? 418 00:17:25,042 --> 00:17:26,417 Oh, wow. 419 00:17:31,875 --> 00:17:34,042 KALEB: That's crazy. I-I don't know how to explain that. 420 00:17:34,208 --> 00:17:35,417 TRAVIS: Oh, it's falling pretty fast. 421 00:17:35,542 --> 00:17:36,625 That's not good. 422 00:17:36,708 --> 00:17:38,667 Oh, wow. 423 00:17:39,875 --> 00:17:41,583 Did you guys see that, too? 424 00:17:41,708 --> 00:17:43,042 I got it on camera. 425 00:17:43,208 --> 00:17:45,208 Yeah, Thomas had eyes on that. 426 00:17:45,375 --> 00:17:47,500 TRAVIS: The mortar went off right about 427 00:17:47,583 --> 00:17:48,958 that 31-foot mark. 428 00:17:49,083 --> 00:17:51,333 It looked like the mortar went off 429 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:53,500 as the rocket was flying through it. 430 00:17:53,667 --> 00:17:55,167 Right after we launched 431 00:17:55,292 --> 00:17:58,667 a rocket and a mortar to stimulate the blob anomaly 432 00:17:58,750 --> 00:18:00,667 31 feet above the triangle, 433 00:18:00,792 --> 00:18:04,000 something clearly made the mortar explode prematurely 434 00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:06,417 and the rocket break into pieces, 435 00:18:06,542 --> 00:18:08,625 and it looked like it happened exactly 436 00:18:08,708 --> 00:18:10,375 at that 31-foot level. 437 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:12,917 The odds of that happening are crazy. 438 00:18:13,042 --> 00:18:14,542 We couldn't be sure what it was, 439 00:18:14,708 --> 00:18:16,833 so I wanted to immediately launch a series of mortars 440 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,375 directly through that 31-foot zone 441 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,917 to see if they would hit something or make something 442 00:18:22,042 --> 00:18:24,750 clearly appear for David's thermal cameras. 443 00:18:24,875 --> 00:18:26,458 Hey, Erik, you copy? 444 00:18:26,542 --> 00:18:28,167 Yeah. Go ahead. 445 00:18:28,292 --> 00:18:30,708 We've got a, uh, incendiary 446 00:18:30,833 --> 00:18:34,000 that we've got mounted on top of the launch tower 447 00:18:34,125 --> 00:18:35,833 and we're gonna fire it, 448 00:18:35,958 --> 00:18:38,042 and we're ready if you guys are. 449 00:18:38,167 --> 00:18:39,583 Ready. Go ahead with the launch. 450 00:18:39,708 --> 00:18:41,625 All right, here we go. 451 00:18:47,208 --> 00:18:49,625 -That's about the right height. -KALEB: Yeah. 452 00:18:52,750 --> 00:18:56,458 TRAVIS: Yeah, that's got to be the right height. 453 00:18:57,583 --> 00:18:59,375 DAVID: There's something right there. 454 00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:04,583 ERIK: Travis, we're examining a feature 455 00:19:04,708 --> 00:19:07,125 in Dave's differential FLIR camera. 456 00:19:07,208 --> 00:19:10,208 This remarkable differential thermal camera 457 00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:11,708 forms an image, 458 00:19:11,875 --> 00:19:14,167 we get a color that corresponds to the temperature. 459 00:19:14,292 --> 00:19:16,500 If anything should come out as warmer, 460 00:19:16,583 --> 00:19:18,875 it will become bright yellow or even white. 461 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,708 What we're seeing here in the thermal is an anomaly 462 00:19:21,833 --> 00:19:24,833 that shows up warmer than the surrounding area. 463 00:19:24,958 --> 00:19:27,625 This is very interesting to me. 464 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:29,667 Where's the feature? 465 00:19:29,792 --> 00:19:31,667 This would be to the southwest of your position. 466 00:19:31,792 --> 00:19:33,542 -Southwest of my position... -KALEB: So it'd be over the... 467 00:19:33,708 --> 00:19:35,500 over that way. 468 00:19:35,667 --> 00:19:37,333 We've been watching this thing evolve for a while, 469 00:19:37,458 --> 00:19:39,542 but it just doesn't make a lot of sense to us. 470 00:19:39,708 --> 00:19:41,792 TRAVIS: When Erik and Thomas said they could actually see 471 00:19:41,917 --> 00:19:43,542 some kind of anomaly between 472 00:19:43,708 --> 00:19:46,625 the south field and the triangle through David's thermal camera, 473 00:19:46,750 --> 00:19:49,250 I immediately looked through a night vision scope 474 00:19:49,375 --> 00:19:51,125 to see if I could spot it, too. 475 00:19:51,250 --> 00:19:53,667 Yeah, I'm not seeing it right now. Keep looking. 476 00:19:53,792 --> 00:19:56,500 Yeah. That's kind of an odd shape, too. 477 00:19:58,042 --> 00:20:00,792 TRAVIS: Since I couldn't see through my night vision camera 478 00:20:00,875 --> 00:20:03,333 what David's thermal camera was imaging, 479 00:20:03,458 --> 00:20:06,667 I thought it might be something out of the ordinary. 480 00:20:06,792 --> 00:20:08,292 Hey, Erik, 481 00:20:08,417 --> 00:20:10,833 -do you guys copy? -ERIK: Yes, we do, Travis. 482 00:20:10,958 --> 00:20:13,958 -Go ahead. -So, I think we're gonna drive down 483 00:20:14,083 --> 00:20:16,292 to the southeast corner of the ranch 484 00:20:16,417 --> 00:20:18,833 and launch this last rocket almost due north 485 00:20:18,958 --> 00:20:22,333 toward the helicopter pad and see if we can bring it down 486 00:20:22,417 --> 00:20:24,583 somewhere in the east field here. 487 00:20:24,708 --> 00:20:26,292 Copy that. 488 00:20:26,417 --> 00:20:28,333 We'll reposition cameras. 489 00:20:29,042 --> 00:20:30,583 All right, talk in a bit. 490 00:20:32,417 --> 00:20:34,000 I really wanted to know if we may have stimulated 491 00:20:34,125 --> 00:20:36,292 another blob anomaly in the sky 492 00:20:36,375 --> 00:20:38,833 between the triangle and the south field. 493 00:20:38,958 --> 00:20:41,667 So we needed to head closer to that location 494 00:20:41,792 --> 00:20:45,292 and conduct more launches to see if we could get it to reappear 495 00:20:45,375 --> 00:20:47,167 and verify what it was. 496 00:20:47,292 --> 00:20:49,000 -BRYANT: Whoa. -THOMAS: Huh? 497 00:20:49,083 --> 00:20:50,833 BRYANT: What was that? 498 00:20:50,917 --> 00:20:54,250 THOMAS: There's a big plane that just flew over us. 499 00:20:54,375 --> 00:20:56,250 BRYANT: Yep, there it is. You got one. 500 00:20:56,375 --> 00:20:58,167 THOMAS: Hey, Erik, what flight was that 501 00:20:58,292 --> 00:21:00,375 -that just went over us? -Well, you know, 502 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,208 I don't have anything directly over us. 503 00:21:03,917 --> 00:21:06,250 THOMAS: I can still see it. It's right there. 504 00:21:06,375 --> 00:21:08,833 But it didn't have normal aviation lights. 505 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,458 -BRYANT: No, it didn't. -Okay. 506 00:21:11,542 --> 00:21:14,792 ERIK: So, I do have a couple of aircraft off to the east. 507 00:21:14,875 --> 00:21:17,458 THOMAS: I mean, it-it was over top of the ranch. 508 00:21:17,583 --> 00:21:19,417 ERIK: Okay, well, I didn't have that. 509 00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:20,667 Did you hear anything? 510 00:21:20,833 --> 00:21:22,708 A little bit, but it was mostly silent. 511 00:21:22,833 --> 00:21:25,292 As the plane is flying across the ranch, 512 00:21:25,417 --> 00:21:27,833 it's very low and it's not blinking 513 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,708 like an aircraft usually does. 514 00:21:29,875 --> 00:21:33,583 And it's not showing up on any of our ADS-B receivers. 515 00:21:33,708 --> 00:21:36,500 It definitely makes it feel like we're being surveilled. 516 00:21:36,667 --> 00:21:38,083 Hey, Travis? 517 00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:40,875 Do you have eyes on an aircraft? 518 00:21:41,042 --> 00:21:42,167 We had a plane go over top of us, 519 00:21:42,292 --> 00:21:43,917 and it's not on the flight tracker. 520 00:21:44,875 --> 00:21:46,333 TRAVIS: Uh, there is something. 521 00:21:46,458 --> 00:21:48,208 ERIK: Travis, this aircraft 522 00:21:48,333 --> 00:21:50,625 is not transponding. 523 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:53,167 TRAVIS: There's so many bugs, 524 00:21:53,333 --> 00:21:55,083 I can't even tell what I'm looking at. 525 00:21:55,208 --> 00:21:56,958 But it's something right there. 526 00:21:57,042 --> 00:22:00,417 What made this mysterious plane incident even more eerie. 527 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,667 Oh, we got a malfunction. Everybody, watch out. 528 00:22:04,833 --> 00:22:07,542 The last time something like that happened was when 529 00:22:07,667 --> 00:22:09,750 the blob anomaly first appeared above the triangle 530 00:22:09,875 --> 00:22:11,792 and the rocket exploded. 531 00:22:12,917 --> 00:22:14,125 We have a helicopter 532 00:22:14,208 --> 00:22:15,750 right over the triangle right now. 533 00:22:15,875 --> 00:22:17,708 ERIK: I am getting no helicopter 534 00:22:17,833 --> 00:22:21,417 above the ranch on the ADS-B receiver here. 535 00:22:22,417 --> 00:22:23,958 TRAVIS: Then, later, we found out 536 00:22:24,042 --> 00:22:26,375 through Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes 537 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:29,958 that it was actually a military Black Hawk helicopter. 538 00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:32,500 It's yet another experiment 539 00:22:32,625 --> 00:22:34,333 where we have aircraft in the air 540 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:38,625 that's not accounted for on the ADS-B. 541 00:22:38,750 --> 00:22:40,833 It's starting to become a habit. 542 00:22:41,875 --> 00:22:44,500 Hey, guys, we're in place, uh, down here. 543 00:22:44,625 --> 00:22:47,375 We're about to shoot, uh, some mortars 544 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:49,167 just to kind of get an idea of the windage 545 00:22:49,292 --> 00:22:51,792 on how to launch the rocket from here. 546 00:22:51,917 --> 00:22:53,250 Copy that. 547 00:22:53,375 --> 00:22:55,167 You ready? 548 00:22:55,292 --> 00:22:57,167 -Dave, are you set? -DAVID: Yeah. 549 00:22:57,292 --> 00:22:58,708 ERIK: Yes, we are ready. 550 00:22:58,833 --> 00:23:00,625 All right, we're gonna light the mortars in five, 551 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,000 four, three, 552 00:23:03,167 --> 00:23:05,625 two, one. 553 00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:08,000 There you go. 554 00:23:08,083 --> 00:23:10,750 Oh, yeah. Got it. 555 00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:14,000 Do you see that right there? 556 00:23:15,167 --> 00:23:16,292 -ERIK: Thomas? -THOMAS: Yeah. 557 00:23:16,417 --> 00:23:18,792 I'd love to get your eyes on this. 558 00:23:18,917 --> 00:23:20,125 This one here. 559 00:23:21,208 --> 00:23:23,958 We have been tracking this light. 560 00:23:24,083 --> 00:23:25,250 THOMAS: Travis. 561 00:23:25,375 --> 00:23:27,042 Uh, we're trying to identify an object 562 00:23:27,167 --> 00:23:28,833 down on the south side 563 00:23:28,917 --> 00:23:30,708 above the trees. 564 00:23:30,875 --> 00:23:33,500 Uh, we're not quite sure what we're looking at. 565 00:23:33,625 --> 00:23:37,667 I think I'm picking it up on the differential, uh, FLIR. 566 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:39,625 -You're picking it up, too? -Yeah. 567 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:44,625 DAVID: That was where Erik was seeing something in his camera. 568 00:23:45,375 --> 00:23:46,958 I want to see this. 569 00:23:47,042 --> 00:23:48,542 So, Travis, 570 00:23:48,667 --> 00:23:51,417 we're also picking up something on the thermal. 571 00:23:51,542 --> 00:23:53,667 It was right, right here, and that's where you saw 572 00:23:53,792 --> 00:23:56,458 the luminous object in-in one of your cameras, 573 00:23:56,583 --> 00:23:58,833 that's where I po-- that's where I aimed it. 574 00:23:58,958 --> 00:24:01,667 THOMAS: So, we have something that's got a heat signature. 575 00:24:05,583 --> 00:24:07,708 What could be down there? 576 00:24:07,875 --> 00:24:09,000 Hey, Travis. 577 00:24:09,125 --> 00:24:11,917 We're not quite sure what we're looking at. 578 00:24:13,375 --> 00:24:16,500 TRAVIS: So, there's something somewhere. 579 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,500 I ain't seeing nothing. I don't know. 580 00:24:21,625 --> 00:24:24,583 Right after Kaleb and I fired a mortar 581 00:24:24,708 --> 00:24:27,000 from the southeast corner of Skinwalker Ranch... 582 00:24:27,125 --> 00:24:28,833 There it is again. 583 00:24:28,917 --> 00:24:30,500 TRAVIS: ...David Mason's thermal cameras picked up 584 00:24:30,625 --> 00:24:32,333 something strange above the south field, 585 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:36,000 in the same area Erik started seeing a light 586 00:24:36,083 --> 00:24:38,875 on his infrared surveillance camera. 587 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,333 And this is near the spot where we've recently seen 588 00:24:41,458 --> 00:24:44,500 a number of UAPs and discovered the burnt post 589 00:24:44,625 --> 00:24:46,833 and two mysterious deer carcasses. 590 00:24:46,958 --> 00:24:49,875 This is where you were seeing that light source, 591 00:24:50,042 --> 00:24:51,542 and I-I got it aimed. 592 00:24:51,667 --> 00:24:53,667 THOMAS: This is a vehicle. 593 00:24:53,833 --> 00:24:56,250 DAVID: This is Travis. These are the cows. 594 00:24:56,375 --> 00:24:57,667 Now watch it again. 595 00:24:57,792 --> 00:25:00,167 You'll see it just start to manifest 596 00:25:00,292 --> 00:25:01,667 just in that spot. 597 00:25:01,792 --> 00:25:04,333 And you can see it pulsing. 598 00:25:04,458 --> 00:25:06,708 Just blinks in and out as cold. 599 00:25:08,083 --> 00:25:09,125 And now it's hotter. 600 00:25:09,208 --> 00:25:10,958 It's changing temperature. 601 00:25:11,083 --> 00:25:13,375 It goes cold or warm, cold or warm. 602 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:15,625 ERIK: Yeah, but why is it varying? 603 00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:18,000 Wow. 604 00:25:18,792 --> 00:25:20,333 We have something 605 00:25:20,458 --> 00:25:22,333 in the thermographic camera 606 00:25:22,417 --> 00:25:27,000 in the same location we saw a light in the near infrared. 607 00:25:27,125 --> 00:25:29,625 So, what are we seeing here? What's causing this to happen? 608 00:25:29,708 --> 00:25:30,958 That's what makes this experiment 609 00:25:31,042 --> 00:25:33,083 so interesting to me, personally. 610 00:25:33,208 --> 00:25:35,292 TRAVIS: You see it? 611 00:25:35,417 --> 00:25:36,750 KALEB: Yeah, I'm not seeing it. 612 00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:39,625 TRAVIS: Hey, Tom, listen, do you copy? 613 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:41,458 Yeah, go ahead, Travis. 614 00:25:41,542 --> 00:25:44,292 TRAVIS: Well, so, we are trying to find the light, 615 00:25:44,417 --> 00:25:46,083 but we're not seeing it right now. 616 00:25:46,208 --> 00:25:48,042 Are you guys ready for us to launch a rocket? 617 00:25:48,167 --> 00:25:50,083 Maybe we'll scare it out. 618 00:25:50,208 --> 00:25:51,917 Yeah, go ahead. 619 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,333 TRAVIS: All right, let me lock it down. 620 00:25:55,417 --> 00:25:57,667 None of us knew what to make of the thermal anomaly 621 00:25:57,792 --> 00:25:59,667 that David's camera detected. 622 00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:01,500 But we wondered if it was something 623 00:26:01,625 --> 00:26:03,750 that we had stimulated with the mortar. 624 00:26:03,875 --> 00:26:06,625 That just told me that we needed to launch another rocket 625 00:26:06,708 --> 00:26:08,250 and see what would happen next. 626 00:26:08,375 --> 00:26:11,417 All right, we're getting ready to launch this rocket. 627 00:26:11,542 --> 00:26:13,875 Rocket is hot. 628 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,083 Five, 629 00:26:15,208 --> 00:26:18,000 four, three, 630 00:26:18,083 --> 00:26:21,208 two, one. 631 00:26:21,375 --> 00:26:23,083 -Oh. -Oh. 632 00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:27,333 DAVID: Got it. 633 00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:28,875 TRAVIS: I see the rocket trail, 634 00:26:29,042 --> 00:26:31,667 but I don't see the rock-- oh, there it is. 635 00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:35,208 BRYANT: It's coming in hot. 636 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:38,375 -ERIK: Oh, I could hear that. -Oh, yeah. 637 00:26:38,542 --> 00:26:39,833 ERIK: Gosh. 638 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,792 Uh, do we still have it? Are you seeing it? 639 00:26:44,125 --> 00:26:45,667 It's faded out. 640 00:26:45,792 --> 00:26:47,917 DAVID: I don't think it's there anymore. 641 00:26:48,708 --> 00:26:51,417 Did it fade out after the launch? 642 00:26:51,542 --> 00:26:52,917 ERIK: Yeah. 643 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:55,333 THOMAS: It disappeared. 644 00:26:55,417 --> 00:26:56,917 ERIK: Where'd it go? 645 00:26:57,042 --> 00:27:00,542 Hey, Travis, that object that we were looking at... 646 00:27:00,667 --> 00:27:02,708 (insects chirping) 647 00:27:02,875 --> 00:27:05,125 ...it's completely gone. 648 00:27:05,208 --> 00:27:07,250 That's just so weird. 649 00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:09,000 I say we, uh, load up 650 00:27:09,125 --> 00:27:12,000 and head back that way and see what they've got. 651 00:27:12,083 --> 00:27:13,833 Sounds good to me. 652 00:27:13,917 --> 00:27:15,917 TRAVIS: I think tonight was a success 653 00:27:16,042 --> 00:27:18,958 because the experiment appears to have triggered phenomena 654 00:27:19,083 --> 00:27:21,833 both at the 31-foot altitude above the triangle, 655 00:27:21,958 --> 00:27:24,583 where we saw the blob-like anomaly earlier this year, 656 00:27:24,708 --> 00:27:26,833 and over the south field, 657 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,875 where so many other strange things have recently happened. 658 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,500 Did you guys find whatever that was down there? 659 00:27:32,583 --> 00:27:33,917 -No. -ERIK: We can't 660 00:27:34,042 --> 00:27:36,375 -identify this thing. -TRAVIS: A-And so, 661 00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:38,292 the thing that you're seeing in your instrument, David, 662 00:27:38,375 --> 00:27:40,208 do you think it's either cold and getting hot... 663 00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:43,042 -It's fluctuating. -Okay. 664 00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:44,833 -Huh. -Don't know why. 665 00:27:44,958 --> 00:27:48,667 We had several different things that, uh, were confusing to us. 666 00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:51,250 One was the first rocket launch we did, 667 00:27:51,375 --> 00:27:56,917 we believe that we heard the, uh, the chute deploy. 668 00:27:57,042 --> 00:27:58,958 -We heard it. -But here's the thing. 669 00:27:59,083 --> 00:28:02,583 It looked to me like the rocket, 670 00:28:02,708 --> 00:28:07,250 right at about 30 feet above the launchpad, 671 00:28:07,375 --> 00:28:08,833 hit the mortar shell. 672 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,667 That-That's, you know, the odds of us... 673 00:28:11,833 --> 00:28:13,708 We couldn't aim and plan and do that. 674 00:28:13,833 --> 00:28:15,167 That's like shooting a bullet with a bullet. 675 00:28:15,292 --> 00:28:16,333 That's-- so shooting a bullet with a bullet. 676 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:18,000 But think about that. 677 00:28:18,083 --> 00:28:19,667 What are the odds of that happening 678 00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:23,167 right there at 31, 30-ish feet... 679 00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:25,625 -Hmm. -...right where we've had this other phenomena happening 680 00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:27,875 with other rockets in that same spot? 681 00:28:28,042 --> 00:28:30,458 -THOMAS: That is weird. -It's so weird. 682 00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:32,167 It's not what we were expecting to see, 683 00:28:32,292 --> 00:28:33,667 -but, again, we see something... -It rarely is. 684 00:28:33,833 --> 00:28:35,542 (chuckles) We see something unexpected 685 00:28:35,708 --> 00:28:38,458 -but weird, right? -Right. 686 00:28:38,542 --> 00:28:40,125 Well, let's clean up. 687 00:28:40,208 --> 00:28:42,333 TRAVIS: Were these anomalies connected? 688 00:28:42,417 --> 00:28:45,042 What were they? And where do they come from? 689 00:28:45,167 --> 00:28:47,458 Since moments after they appeared, 690 00:28:47,542 --> 00:28:49,208 they simply just vanished. 691 00:28:49,333 --> 00:28:52,208 Hopefully, once we see the data recorded earlier this week 692 00:28:52,333 --> 00:28:56,458 during the balloon radar scan, we'll start to get some answers. 693 00:28:56,583 --> 00:28:57,917 BRYANT: Thanks for coming out 694 00:28:58,042 --> 00:28:59,125 and for your amazing equipment. 695 00:28:59,208 --> 00:29:01,708 -This has been fantastic. -Thank you. 696 00:29:14,375 --> 00:29:15,917 ERIK: Hey, Jeremiah. 697 00:29:16,042 --> 00:29:17,750 JEREMIAH: Hi, everyone. Great to talk to you all. 698 00:29:17,875 --> 00:29:19,583 Hey, man, how you been? 699 00:29:19,708 --> 00:29:21,333 Good, so we're really excited. 700 00:29:21,458 --> 00:29:24,208 We've been working and-and number-crunching. 701 00:29:24,333 --> 00:29:26,125 We haven't even finished processing the data 702 00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:28,833 and we're seeing all these strange things in the data 703 00:29:28,958 --> 00:29:30,667 that we can't readily explain. 704 00:29:30,792 --> 00:29:33,083 TRAVIS: A few days after our incredible nighttime experiment 705 00:29:33,208 --> 00:29:35,250 between the triangle and the south field, 706 00:29:35,375 --> 00:29:38,333 we had a meeting with Jeremiah Pate from Lunasonde 707 00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:40,000 about the balloon radar scan. 708 00:29:40,167 --> 00:29:42,208 Although the underground data he and his team 709 00:29:42,333 --> 00:29:45,333 collected earlier this week wasn't ready yet, 710 00:29:45,458 --> 00:29:48,083 Jeremiah had already processed some of the data 711 00:29:48,208 --> 00:29:51,750 that they collected in the air above the triangle and the mesa. 712 00:29:51,875 --> 00:29:53,375 We're excited to see what you've got. 713 00:29:53,542 --> 00:29:55,917 Yeah, absolutely. Share away. 714 00:29:56,042 --> 00:30:00,083 So, the balloon launch itself was a textbook flight. 715 00:30:00,208 --> 00:30:02,792 Uh, the actual flight was completely flawless. 716 00:30:02,875 --> 00:30:04,125 Well, that's good news. 717 00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:05,792 JEREMIAH: This gives you a sense 718 00:30:05,917 --> 00:30:08,292 of how the balloon rose over time. 719 00:30:08,417 --> 00:30:12,000 Uh, surprisingly, uh, this was an extremely smooth ascent, 720 00:30:12,167 --> 00:30:15,750 so you would think nothing went wrong with this balloon, right? 721 00:30:15,875 --> 00:30:18,667 Uh, everything looks completely perfect here. 722 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:21,667 We should have had a flawless data capture. 723 00:30:21,792 --> 00:30:23,458 That brings me to my next point. 724 00:30:23,542 --> 00:30:26,667 What you're looking at is actually the raw data output. 725 00:30:26,792 --> 00:30:28,458 And if you look closely, you can see 726 00:30:28,542 --> 00:30:31,042 there are these strange jumps in the data set. 727 00:30:31,167 --> 00:30:34,042 TRAVIS: Looks like you have jumps in the magnetic field 728 00:30:34,167 --> 00:30:37,167 while at the same time drops in the electric field. 729 00:30:37,250 --> 00:30:40,000 They seem to almost correlate with each other. 730 00:30:40,083 --> 00:30:41,750 Exactly. 731 00:30:41,875 --> 00:30:44,875 It's-it's unbelievable. That's amazing. 732 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,875 BRYANT: Mm-hmm. 733 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,292 TRAVIS: Jeremiah's data truly defies physics. 734 00:30:49,417 --> 00:30:51,833 We're seeing the magnetic field increased 735 00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:53,833 while the electric field decreased. 736 00:30:53,958 --> 00:30:55,500 That doesn't naturally happen. 737 00:30:55,625 --> 00:30:59,375 Typically, we would see both fields rise and lower together 738 00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:02,125 and the levels would be nearly identical. 739 00:31:02,208 --> 00:31:04,833 But the data shows, as the balloon ascended, 740 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,333 it came in contact with an extreme level 741 00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:11,500 of magnetic energy that we have no conventional explanation for. 742 00:31:11,625 --> 00:31:14,792 This is something that Erik and I have also seen happen 743 00:31:14,875 --> 00:31:16,667 during other experiments above the triangle. 744 00:31:16,833 --> 00:31:19,500 CASEY: Ignition. 745 00:31:19,625 --> 00:31:22,250 TRAVIS: Two years ago, we launched rockets 746 00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:26,833 over the triangle and watched as the entire spectrum jumped. 747 00:31:26,958 --> 00:31:28,625 That is unreal. 748 00:31:28,708 --> 00:31:30,458 TRAVIS: Oh, my God, during the launch, 749 00:31:30,583 --> 00:31:32,917 the electromagnetic spectrum is going crazy, guys. 750 00:31:33,042 --> 00:31:35,000 I've never seen anything like it. 751 00:31:35,167 --> 00:31:37,958 So, now that Lunasonde has also measured 752 00:31:38,042 --> 00:31:40,208 this crazy magnetic and electromagnetic anomaly 753 00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:44,167 above the triangle, what kind of phenomena could it be? 754 00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:47,958 This is something that we really can't explain, 755 00:31:48,083 --> 00:31:51,208 and our team has spent, uh, hours upon hours 756 00:31:51,375 --> 00:31:53,708 looking over this data trying to come up 757 00:31:53,833 --> 00:31:56,333 with an explanation for what's causing this. 758 00:31:56,417 --> 00:31:59,875 So, somewhere in the near field, there were these very strong, 759 00:32:00,042 --> 00:32:01,458 transient electromagnetic fields. 760 00:32:01,583 --> 00:32:05,167 What altitude were you at when that happened? 761 00:32:05,292 --> 00:32:08,000 The bulk of this data was captured below 10,000 feet 762 00:32:08,167 --> 00:32:09,875 where we encountered these anomalies. 763 00:32:10,042 --> 00:32:11,917 The data, um, evened out 764 00:32:12,042 --> 00:32:15,250 and started to make more sense above that. 765 00:32:15,375 --> 00:32:18,958 So this really puts in context the anomalies versus altitudes. 766 00:32:19,083 --> 00:32:20,833 It gives you a sense of where we started 767 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,750 to encounter those anomalies. 768 00:32:22,875 --> 00:32:25,208 But you describe it as suddenly calming down 769 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:27,875 a-aft-- beyond a certain altitude. 770 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,208 Um, what does that make you think? 771 00:32:30,333 --> 00:32:33,000 Well, it makes me think there's a, a phenomena 772 00:32:33,125 --> 00:32:35,500 that-that the instruments are passing through. 773 00:32:35,667 --> 00:32:38,250 -There's boundary layers to the phenomena. -Right. 774 00:32:38,375 --> 00:32:40,625 We wanted to know, if it went through the anomaly, 775 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:43,208 if it may pick something up. 776 00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:44,875 Obviously, something messed with it. 777 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,542 We're looking at two of the most important plots 778 00:32:46,667 --> 00:32:49,667 -we've seen since we began, guys. -Ever. Ever. Ever. 779 00:32:49,792 --> 00:32:51,250 And this is right, uh, 780 00:32:51,375 --> 00:32:52,792 you launched from the triangle, right? 781 00:32:52,875 --> 00:32:54,417 -Yes, we did. -And so, you went from zero 782 00:32:54,542 --> 00:32:57,333 up through 10,000 feet, and while you're doing that, 783 00:32:57,417 --> 00:33:02,042 you're measuring huge increases in the magnetic field 784 00:33:02,167 --> 00:33:05,667 and huge decreases in the electric field. 785 00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:07,750 Exactly. 786 00:33:07,875 --> 00:33:09,125 Wow. 787 00:33:09,250 --> 00:33:10,875 TRAVIS: It was unbelievable. 788 00:33:11,042 --> 00:33:12,583 Above the triangle, where we've seen 789 00:33:12,708 --> 00:33:16,875 all kinds of strange things between 31 and 5,000 feet, 790 00:33:17,042 --> 00:33:20,292 like a blob, energy spikes and UAPs, 791 00:33:20,417 --> 00:33:22,583 Jeremiah's balloon scan is showing something 792 00:33:22,708 --> 00:33:25,917 that may be even stranger at about 10,000 feet. 793 00:33:26,042 --> 00:33:28,042 Are these separate anomalies or are they all part 794 00:33:28,208 --> 00:33:30,250 of the same phenomena? 795 00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:32,125 From a physics perspective, 796 00:33:32,208 --> 00:33:34,583 we do not know how you would change 797 00:33:34,708 --> 00:33:39,125 the entire electromagnetic spectrum at once 798 00:33:39,208 --> 00:33:41,292 across every frequency. 799 00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:43,375 We don't-- The only thing that would do that 800 00:33:43,542 --> 00:33:44,917 would be something that affects everything. 801 00:33:45,042 --> 00:33:47,875 All colors of light, all-all radio dial-- 802 00:33:48,042 --> 00:33:49,500 and the only thing that is, is gravity. 803 00:33:49,625 --> 00:33:53,458 What could be there that we don't see with the naked eye 804 00:33:53,542 --> 00:33:56,875 that, for some reason, we see in lidar, radar 805 00:33:57,042 --> 00:33:59,542 and in the electromagnetic field? 806 00:33:59,667 --> 00:34:01,292 That's not natural. 807 00:34:01,375 --> 00:34:03,583 -No. -That's not a natural phenomenon. 808 00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:05,292 Never heard of it, ever. 809 00:34:05,375 --> 00:34:07,083 I mean, what the hell is up there? 810 00:34:14,208 --> 00:34:16,208 TRAVIS: The preliminary data 811 00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:18,333 that Jeremiah Pate and his team from Lunasonde collected 812 00:34:18,458 --> 00:34:20,583 above Skinwalker Ranch is shocking. 813 00:34:20,708 --> 00:34:23,750 They've detected something above the triangle 814 00:34:23,875 --> 00:34:25,333 that raises the magnetic field 815 00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:27,000 while lowering the electric field 816 00:34:27,125 --> 00:34:29,500 of the environment almost simultaneously. 817 00:34:29,667 --> 00:34:32,292 That can't be natural, and it could explain 818 00:34:32,417 --> 00:34:35,500 all the GPS anomalies we've experienced there. 819 00:34:35,583 --> 00:34:37,833 The questions now are: what is it, 820 00:34:37,958 --> 00:34:39,375 how might it be connected to the strange 821 00:34:39,542 --> 00:34:41,542 communication signals we've also detected, 822 00:34:41,667 --> 00:34:44,625 and why do we keep seeing UAPs there? 823 00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:46,792 THOMAS: I think it'd be interesting to correlate 824 00:34:46,875 --> 00:34:48,917 the flight path that you do have, 825 00:34:49,042 --> 00:34:50,667 i-if that could somehow be correlated 826 00:34:50,792 --> 00:34:52,333 with the data that's showing up 827 00:34:52,417 --> 00:34:55,250 -in this location. -Yeah, absolutely. 828 00:34:55,375 --> 00:34:56,875 JEREMIAH: As you see here, 829 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,583 this is the approximate flight path 830 00:34:59,708 --> 00:35:03,500 that the balloon took, and we were able to fly over 831 00:35:03,625 --> 00:35:06,667 some of the really important features in the ranch, 832 00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:10,625 including the triangle as well as the ranch itself, 833 00:35:10,708 --> 00:35:13,958 so we were able to collect some very crucial data 834 00:35:14,042 --> 00:35:16,875 -over these locations. -TRAVIS: Hey, hold it right there for a minute. 835 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000 Thomas, correct me if I'm understanding 836 00:35:19,125 --> 00:35:22,833 what I'm looking at, but is the... 837 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,833 the drill site not about right here? 838 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,458 -THOMAS: Yep. -Right here, 839 00:35:26,542 --> 00:35:29,208 where the balloon crossed over, 840 00:35:29,375 --> 00:35:33,292 where the GPR data tells us there's an anomaly in the mesa, 841 00:35:33,417 --> 00:35:35,292 right as it's over that, look what happened. 842 00:35:35,375 --> 00:35:37,167 The electric field jumped. 843 00:35:37,292 --> 00:35:38,750 THOMAS: Right over where the metal's at. 844 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:40,500 Right over where we pulled the metal out of the mesa. 845 00:35:40,667 --> 00:35:41,917 When it's right there, 846 00:35:42,042 --> 00:35:44,000 boom, the electric field goes up. 847 00:35:44,083 --> 00:35:46,542 -How about that? -ERIK: Wow. 848 00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:49,583 -BRYANT: This is unbelievable. -Oh, wow. 849 00:35:49,708 --> 00:35:50,708 Think about that. 850 00:35:50,833 --> 00:35:53,208 ERIK: It's just the abruptness of these changes 851 00:35:53,333 --> 00:35:56,500 that has just got me so floored. 852 00:35:56,625 --> 00:35:58,250 -I mean... -And the changes are from, like, 853 00:35:58,375 --> 00:36:03,333 you know, one to 10,000, not like one to four. 854 00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:07,417 Sure enough, Jeremiah's data has now identified 855 00:36:07,542 --> 00:36:10,333 gigantic magnetic anomalies above the mesa. 856 00:36:10,458 --> 00:36:12,625 And this is right over the spot where we've been drilling 857 00:36:12,708 --> 00:36:16,083 because we detected two possibly metallic objects 858 00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:17,667 inside the mesa. 859 00:36:17,792 --> 00:36:20,292 One of which we believe is shaped like a dome 860 00:36:20,375 --> 00:36:23,375 and appears to contain materials similar to what NASA uses 861 00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:25,333 on the surface of the space shuttle. 862 00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:29,375 And the other is vertical and over 100 feet tall. 863 00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:31,458 What are we dealing with here? 864 00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:34,208 These are huge discontinuities, um, 865 00:36:34,375 --> 00:36:36,292 and both the discontinuity and the scale of it 866 00:36:36,417 --> 00:36:38,250 is very surprising. 867 00:36:38,375 --> 00:36:40,542 At the same time, we did have 868 00:36:40,667 --> 00:36:43,917 some clock anomalies of the triangle. 869 00:36:44,042 --> 00:36:45,500 Uh, I've never seen anything 870 00:36:45,625 --> 00:36:47,458 in any other data set that resembles this. 871 00:36:47,583 --> 00:36:50,750 Can you quantify it for us? Because that might be important. 872 00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:55,000 Yeah, so we lost a quarter second of time. 873 00:36:55,167 --> 00:36:56,750 TRAVIS: Really? 874 00:36:56,875 --> 00:36:58,167 That doesn't sound like much. 875 00:36:58,250 --> 00:37:00,625 Oh, it does. For data like this, it's huge. 876 00:37:00,708 --> 00:37:03,542 Yeah, if light travels, you know, a foot per nanosecond, 877 00:37:03,667 --> 00:37:06,833 a quarter of a second, think how much could happen there. 878 00:37:06,917 --> 00:37:10,875 Absolutely. It's a, it's an eternity for these electronics. 879 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,833 Yeah, and think what it would do to your GPS signals, 880 00:37:13,958 --> 00:37:15,667 to all of your processing. 881 00:37:15,833 --> 00:37:18,542 Uh, oh, my goodness, a quarter of a second is huge. 882 00:37:18,708 --> 00:37:22,167 We've been trying to figure out how to measure 883 00:37:22,292 --> 00:37:25,542 that time anomaly, and-and you now have actual data 884 00:37:25,708 --> 00:37:28,042 telling us there's a quarter of a second 885 00:37:28,167 --> 00:37:31,000 time anomaly over the triangle. 886 00:37:31,125 --> 00:37:32,500 There's so-- it's like there's wrinkles 887 00:37:32,667 --> 00:37:35,333 in space and time over the triangle. 888 00:37:35,458 --> 00:37:39,667 Nobody's ever measured any anomaly like that on the planet. 889 00:37:39,792 --> 00:37:41,167 Exactly. 890 00:37:41,250 --> 00:37:42,750 THOMAS: Are we seeing evidence of a portal? 891 00:37:42,875 --> 00:37:44,333 TRAVIS: Well, you know, this may be 892 00:37:44,458 --> 00:37:46,417 the first time we've actually got evidence 893 00:37:46,542 --> 00:37:49,500 of there being something above the triangle, the object, 894 00:37:49,583 --> 00:37:52,417 whether it's a portal or some-- whatever else. 895 00:37:52,542 --> 00:37:54,292 I don't know, but it's something. 896 00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:57,375 To have these kinds of electromagnetic anomalies 897 00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:00,542 coupled with a time shift of a quarter of a second 898 00:38:00,708 --> 00:38:02,042 is astronomical. 899 00:38:02,208 --> 00:38:05,208 Some scientists have suggested that these types of anomalies 900 00:38:05,375 --> 00:38:08,667 could be telltale signs of a traversable wormhole, 901 00:38:08,750 --> 00:38:11,125 or what some people might call a portal. 902 00:38:11,208 --> 00:38:13,333 Could we have just discovered evidence 903 00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:15,042 of what the Indigenous people of the area 904 00:38:15,167 --> 00:38:16,542 have claimed for centuries, 905 00:38:16,708 --> 00:38:19,000 that interdimensional portals exist 906 00:38:19,125 --> 00:38:20,792 on Skinwalker Ranch? 907 00:38:20,875 --> 00:38:23,750 -ERIK: What are you seeing? -A signal? 908 00:38:23,875 --> 00:38:25,292 TRAVIS: Could that explain why Erik and I 909 00:38:25,417 --> 00:38:27,000 have detected energy levels 910 00:38:27,083 --> 00:38:29,917 that we don't know how human technology can produce? 911 00:38:30,042 --> 00:38:33,083 "1.60000." 912 00:38:33,208 --> 00:38:34,792 Travis, you-you got to see this. 913 00:38:34,875 --> 00:38:36,708 TRAVIS: Or why we've seen UAPs ascend 914 00:38:36,833 --> 00:38:39,208 from the direction of the mesa up toward the triangle 915 00:38:39,375 --> 00:38:42,125 and then simply vanish into thin air? 916 00:38:42,250 --> 00:38:43,500 BRANDON: Oh, my gosh. 917 00:38:43,625 --> 00:38:46,625 A bend in space-time, or a wormhole, 918 00:38:46,750 --> 00:38:49,500 would theoretically explain these things. 919 00:38:49,583 --> 00:38:52,667 And now Jeremiah Pate has detected the best evidence 920 00:38:52,792 --> 00:38:56,083 I know of in human history that this phenomena 921 00:38:56,208 --> 00:38:58,542 could be a reality on Skinwalker Ranch. 922 00:38:58,667 --> 00:39:01,750 There is no part of our investigation, 923 00:39:01,875 --> 00:39:06,250 no part of the entire narrative that isn't touched by this. 924 00:39:06,375 --> 00:39:08,667 Everything. The lidar, the radar, 925 00:39:08,792 --> 00:39:11,333 the ground-penetrating radar, the, uh, helicopter... 926 00:39:11,458 --> 00:39:13,417 -GPS, the... -The GPS. 927 00:39:13,542 --> 00:39:14,792 -All of it. -TRAVIS: Every measurement 928 00:39:14,875 --> 00:39:16,542 -we have taken this summer. -Yeah. 929 00:39:16,667 --> 00:39:20,833 This is fascinating, Jeremiah, and I can't wait to see, 930 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,958 uh, the more processed data and-and when you guys finish up. 931 00:39:25,083 --> 00:39:27,833 Thank you so much for doing this. 932 00:39:27,958 --> 00:39:30,792 Yeah, the team and I are gonna continue to crunch the data 933 00:39:30,917 --> 00:39:32,125 and see what we can find. 934 00:39:32,208 --> 00:39:33,542 And then we'll be in touch really soon 935 00:39:33,667 --> 00:39:36,000 with the results of our analysis. 936 00:39:36,083 --> 00:39:37,375 All right. 937 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:38,958 Well, we'll follow up when you've got 938 00:39:39,083 --> 00:39:41,708 the rest of that, uh, that data filtered and crunched 939 00:39:41,833 --> 00:39:43,958 and, uh, maybe we'll have some imagery 940 00:39:44,083 --> 00:39:45,667 of what's beneath the soil, right? 941 00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:46,792 Exactly. 942 00:39:46,917 --> 00:39:48,167 -Thank you. -Thanks, Jeremiah. 943 00:39:48,292 --> 00:39:50,833 See you later, Jeremiah. Thanks a lot. 944 00:39:50,958 --> 00:39:52,542 (clears throat) 945 00:39:52,667 --> 00:39:54,542 TRAVIS: I think we've got more and more verification 946 00:39:54,667 --> 00:39:56,750 that there's an optical and a temporal anomaly taking place, 947 00:39:56,875 --> 00:39:59,333 -which may be one and the same... -Mm-hmm. 948 00:39:59,417 --> 00:40:02,208 ...over the ranch, and we need to continue with it. 949 00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:03,625 -Well, all right, man. -Crazy. 950 00:40:03,708 --> 00:40:05,292 -THOMAS: Thank you. -Fantastic experiment. 951 00:40:05,417 --> 00:40:07,583 -Unbelievable. -Absolutely fantastic. 952 00:40:07,708 --> 00:40:11,417 ERIK: A lot of our experiments done at altitude 953 00:40:11,542 --> 00:40:13,625 have produced really strange results. 954 00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:15,750 What could be generating the strange effects 955 00:40:15,875 --> 00:40:19,625 that we repeatedly experience in the sky over the ranch? 956 00:40:19,708 --> 00:40:22,083 I'd like the answer to that, above all else. 957 00:40:22,208 --> 00:40:24,708 TRAVIS: Seeing this new data showing anomalies 958 00:40:24,875 --> 00:40:27,000 throughout the skies above the ranch 959 00:40:27,083 --> 00:40:29,833 really makes you wonder if all the stories about 960 00:40:29,958 --> 00:40:32,958 portals here over the property could actually be true. 961 00:40:33,042 --> 00:40:36,083 And moving forward in our investigation, 962 00:40:36,208 --> 00:40:39,167 we're not gonna stop until we figure it out. 963 00:40:40,917 --> 00:40:43,333 BRANDON: Strange phenomena seems to be at a fever pitch 964 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,333 at Skinwalker Ranch. 965 00:40:45,458 --> 00:40:47,542 What are we going to find above the ranch 966 00:40:47,667 --> 00:40:51,625 that will help us find the answers to, 967 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:53,792 really, the nature of the strange phenomena 968 00:40:53,917 --> 00:40:57,417 that has plagued this area for decades, if not millennia? 969 00:40:57,542 --> 00:41:01,167 And now, more than ever before, we are dedicated 970 00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:04,833 and focused on getting to the bottom of the truth. 971 00:41:10,125 --> 00:41:12,333 BURDETTE: There's something screaming across here. 972 00:41:12,417 --> 00:41:14,333 -TRAVIS: Holy crap. -Look at this thing. 973 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:17,167 Guys, that's 3,600 miles per hour. 974 00:41:17,250 --> 00:41:19,833 ERIK: I want to do focused 975 00:41:19,917 --> 00:41:22,000 sound experiments. 976 00:41:22,125 --> 00:41:24,500 The stone circle is lit up like a Christmas tree. 977 00:41:24,583 --> 00:41:26,500 That is crazy. 978 00:41:26,625 --> 00:41:27,750 JOHN (over radio): We keep seeing a figure 979 00:41:27,875 --> 00:41:29,208 that keeps going back and forth. 980 00:41:29,333 --> 00:41:31,292 Go, go, go, go, go. 981 00:41:31,375 --> 00:41:33,417 -I'm going up on top. Yep. -THOMAS: Yep, in case there's somebody up there. 982 00:41:33,542 --> 00:41:35,833 TRAVIS: All right, we're on our way. 983 00:41:38,875 --> 00:41:40,542 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 76810

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